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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 349

Table Of Contents: 

	 Questions
	 Suspense
	 Old Radio Buildings
	 Polyline (was address/phone # requested)
	 Place the faces ...
	 Freberg & Time For Beany
	 Pat Novak
	 Naughty OTR / Favorite Shadow
	 Re:  Taglines
	 Re: amos n' andy,and
	       Elena Verdugo
	 BOB HOPE/JANE RUSSELL & RISING ANTENNA

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:02:28 -0700
From: "JACK MANN" <jmann@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Questions
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Hello Digesters:
I just got a tape of the audition show for "Three For Adventure", with Elliot Lewis,
Barton Yarborough and Jack Webb playing  three detective/adventurers, very
similar to "I Love a Mystery". Did this show go any further? Are more episodes
available?
Another question. While reading thru Vincent Terrace's Radio's Golden Years, I
came across a show called "Three Sheets to the Wind". A 26 episode 1940
series, it presented a look into the sinister happenings that occurred during a
world cruise on a luxury liner. The cast included Helga Moray as a British Intel-
ligence agent and John Wayne as an American posing as a habitual drunk to
cover his secret intentions. Does anyone know anything about this show? Is it
available? I'd love to hear the Duke playing a drunken spy.

Jack

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:07:49 -0700
From: "JACK MANN" <jmann@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Suspense
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I'm trying to build up my collection of Suspense radio shows. Anybody out
there seriously interested in doing some trading please contact me privately at
jmann@[removed]    Thanks very much.

Jack

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 15:39 PDT
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Old Radio Buildings
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The story about the destruction of the old NBC studios in Hollywood makes me
want to mention that anyone going along Vermont Avenue in Los Angeles, will
find the old "modernistic" KFI (and KFI-KECA) studios still intact at 141 N.
Vermont.  
Although it has not been used for that purpose for many years, the Korean
Times, which bought the building, has left it just the same as it originally
was, with the exception of the large auditorium.  I understand from a friend
that inside everything is the same, including the signal lights over the
doors of the studio to show when it was "On The Air", etc etc.  He says one
could walk down the halls of KFI and fully expect to hear them broadcasting.

I'm looking at a sheet of stationery which I still have from KFI, which
shows the building, with Earle C. Anthony, Inc - KFI - NBC across the front.
The Stationery's letterhead says "Earle C. Anthony, Inc., Since 1904,
Districutor of Motor Cars".

and, speaking of names for the radio [removed] was just told that KFI
stood for "Farm Information".  The station was heavy on public service,
which included programs coming out of its Farm Department, crop information
and the nightly "Fruit Frost Warning" which was so necessary in the days of
the large citrus industry in the Los Angeles basin.

Lois Culver
KWLK Longview WA
KFI Los Angeles CA

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:57:26 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Cc: vintage@[removed]
Subject: Polyline (was address/phone # requested)
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Andy Blatt writes:
>Does anyone know the phone number/address of Polyline (I believe
>it's in Des Plaines, IL) and any other companies that deal in
>plastic boxes, albums, etc?

I posted some info in the digest a while back on this; here's a
summary of it again:

>>JanBach@[removed] (Jan Bach) writes:
>>>[...] someone else mentioned Polyline Corporation in
>>>connection with something or other. I have found their cassette 
>>>albums to be very dependable and reasonably cheap. Their latest 
>>>catalog (March 96) shows albums for one, two, three, four, six, 
>>>eight, ten, twelve, and sixteen cassettes -- just about every 
>>>size as well. And they also have storage for DAT tape and a 
>>>variety of other media. They are at 1233 Rand Road in Des Plaines
>>>IL 60016 (847-390-7744)
[...]
>First of all, last night I came across one of the sample mailings 
>from the company _I_ was referring to, and discovered that it was in 
>fact not Polyline at all, but a company called Century Photo Products
>& Accessories, at 205 S. Puente St., [removed] Box 2393, Brea, CA  92622. 
[...]
>Regarding Polyline Corporation, I received some email asking whether
>they have any Internet presence at all, and since they're in my
>neighborhood I gave them a call just now. A pleasant lady named
>Jeanette told me that in fact they are not on the Internet just yet,
>but may be in the near future. In the meantime, they will be happy to
>mail a catalog to anyone who calls or sends a postcard to the above
>address. I gave her a quick account of how their name had come up in
>discussion and what the Old-Time Radio Digest was all about, so when
>you contact them, tell them how you heard of them. According to Jeanette,
>they're thinking of getting on the Internet, so you can encourage them.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:12:35 GMT
From: lgenco@[removed] (Lou Genco)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Place the faces ...
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Greetings -

Some folks have suggested, in recent OTR Digests, that convention attendees
wear a microchip to identify themselves as part of the "Connected" group of
OTR fans on the Web.  I'd like to propose yet another suggestion:  If any
of y'all want your picture added to a suitable place at my web site, send
me an email.  I have been thinking of establishing a "year book" (or mug
book) page, containing the phiz of OTR Digest readers.  I can accept images
in almost any digital format, or scan them from photos. 

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:34:53 -0700
From: ulrich@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Freberg & Time For Beany
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In OTR Digest #348, BURT WILSON <futurecon@[removed]> wrote:

>If I'm not mistaken, Stan got his start in TV, well before his radio days.
>He played the part of "Cecil the Seasick Sea Serpent" in the "Time For
>Beanie" kids show that came out of San Francisco in the very early 50's--I
>think it was KRON
>TV.

Actually, Freberg got his start in (theatrically-released) cartoons. He did
voices for Warner Brothers and other studios starting in 1944.

Time For Beany was broadcast live on KTLA, Los Angeles, and syndicated
nationally from 1949 through 1955. At the beginning, the puppeteers were
Stan Freberg (Cecil, Dishonest John) and Daws Butler (Beany, Captain), and
the writers were Charlie Shows and Bill Scott. The producer was of course
Bob Clampett. Time For Beany won the Emmy for Best Children's Program in
1949, 1950, and 1952.

>  Anyway, the show was live and full of great wisecracks.  I wonder if
>thereare any kinescopes of that show around.

Yes. Unfortunately, the one I've seen is from after Freberg, Butler, and
Scott had left. (Scott was fired after requesting a raise. I don't know
under what circumstances Freberg and Butler left.)

Freberg and Butler worked together again on That's Rich and Freberg's own
radio show, as well as countless children's records for Capitol (also
featuring June Foray and Pinto Colvig).

Daws Butler and Bill Scott later worked together on such Jay Ward cartoons
as Fractured Fairy Tales, AEsop and Son, George of the Jungle, and
commercials for Cap'n Crunch and Quisp.

--Charles

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:08:51 -0700
From: dean allchin <dallchin@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Pat Novak
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Dear everyone

I would like to entertain thoughts of settting up part of a web page
dedicated to the fabulous OTR program Pat Novak For Hire.  Information on
this program is very hard to come by and I'v even tried to research the
archives at ABC and NBC.  The public relations departments of both those
companies have taken ages to reply to my inquiries. The net seems to hold
little information about PN apart from logs and all I know of the show is
that it starred three great actors:  Jack Webb, of course; Raymond Burr and
Tudor Owen.

The scripts were fantastic, the character interplay quick and clever.  And
who could forget all the similes?

If anyone has any information on this program, be it pictures, script
information, sponsors (which never seem to be mentioned on air), casts, etc.
Any information would be sourced of course, and URLs gladly linked.

I look forward to fantastic times on this digest.

Sincerely
Dean Roderick Allchin
Vancouver, B. C.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:15:07 -0400
From: DavidLHsl@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Naughty OTR / Favorite Shadow
Message-ID: <960923211507_528331208@[removed]>

  In response to two separate threads started by Anthony Tollin:

  The mention of ribald humor in OTR reminds me of my favorite OTR blooper.
 It is from an Abbott & Costello program titled by Metacom as "A Psychaitrist
for Costello."  Sorry, no date was provided, but in this episode, Costello is
taken to a psychaitrist and then is to be taken to a rest home.  A beautiful
nurse arrives to take Costello, and Costello asks her (paraphrasing, as I'm
recalling all of this from memory), "Would you like to take me to the
restroo---, rest home!!!"  He caught himself a little too late, and the
audience started howling.
  I've heard the H-E-double-hockey-sticks word insinuated in some OTR
programs.  The one that comes readily to mind is the one where Baby Snooks is
learning to play the piano from her father.  Daddy asks her to tell him what
comes after the key of G, and Snooks says H.  Daddy strikes the A key
repeatedly, then asks her what key comes after G.  She still says H.  "No,
it's A!" Daddy scolds.  Snooks replies, "Well, it sounds like H to me!"

  As for my favorite Shadow, I would have to pick Orson Welles as my favorite
in the role of both Lamont and the Shadow.  His Lamont voice projects danger
and concern, whereas his whispy, ghost-like voice as the Shadow taunts and
nags on the villains like a guilty conscience.  It's especially effective
when he fades his voice out.
  Bill Johnstone has a great, menacing voice as the Shadow, but his voice
sounds a tad old for Lamont Cranston.
  I only have two episodes of John Archer episodes, so I haven't been able to
get used to his voice in either role.  It's really an unusual voice.
  The only criticism I have about Brett Morrison's voice is that his Shadow
voice is too similar to his Lamont voice.
  These are the only actors I have in my collection.  I can't comment on the
other roles, because I haven't been able to distinquish them.
  As far as my favorite Shadow stories are concerned, the ones with Brett
Morrison tend to make a stronger impression on me, despite the fact that I
think these stories tend to utilize the role of the Shadow as little more
than an errand boy for Lamont.  The Orson Welles' stories have more action to
them, and the Shadow is really used to great effect.  I'll readily admit that
some of the elements in Welles' stories tend to border on the juvenile, but I
love that quality in OTR.  The Morrison stories function primarily as
mystery/horror stories.  And for some reason, the Johnstone stories don't
leave any particular impression one way or the other.

David Hassell
"The British are coming!" (Jack Benny's password when he goes down to his
vault)

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:20:59 -0300
From: "Stephen Moore" <moores@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re:  Taglines
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

One of my favourite lines from OTR is also a Fibber McGee line:

  "That aint the way I heerd it Johnny"

It seems that I have inserted this into my everyday speech.

I also love the Kingfish's "Ye-ahh. . . . ." and Andy's "He - llll -o",
which might not make good taglines, but still I find myself using from time
to time.

  Would "Now cut that out!!" work as a tagline?

I wish I could recall more classic lines, but I am sure others will. :)

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:54:31 4
From: "edcarr" <edcarr@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: amos n' andy,and
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

if i may i'd like to add a few comments
to the amos n' andy bit.
1st-the kingfish made the program,i wouldn't
want to listen to someone morallizing all
the time as would [removed] many other programs
were good for that,at the time.
2nd-before i retired,i worked at a place which
had many black persons working there,i never
enjoyed my self as much,we use to argue over
the least thing one being who was a better basketball
center white or black,i won't go into detail what
my reply was,anyway one time it came up about
amos n' andy and i took a poll on my shift,did they
remember the show,most did but mainly the tv show
but alot said their grands remembered quite well
i asked them did they think it was demeaning/offensive
all that [removed] didn't think so,but they did
mention it was played by white actors,that ran into
another [removed] to the point,the younger persons
really didn't remember,the older gen,around my age
didn't take offense,they enjoyed what they remembered.
the radio version.
then it got on the subject of the tv version,that almost
caused a donneybrook,because the person i was talking
to had no idea that they were black actors in that
version,and that it was because two white men helped
get the show on.
what did i get from that?not a black eye,thank goodness
the guy was 6ft 4 or 5.,anyway to go on,that did it
the next convention i found many tapes of the show
tv,and took them in,and i offered them to everyone
one person took them and enjoyed every episode and
argued for me everytime the subject came [removed] it
did as i use to agitate,once in awhile.
the moral of all this blatering,that show was taken
off the air by a few not by many,
well i got that out finally,we compared jeffersons etc.
                                ed
                            

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Date:          Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:45:01 4
From: "Ronald F. Apgar" <apgar@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       Elena Verdugo
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I came across the name of Elena Verdugo.  If my memory
serves me right, didn't she appear on radio back in the
golden-days?
   
Ronald F. Apgar
apgar@[removed]
 
"As cold waters to a thirsty soul,
 so is good news from a far country."
                      -Proverbs 25:25
 
[removed]~hawkmtn/
  
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:18:39 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: BOB HOPE/JANE RUSSELL & RISING ANTENNA
Message-ID: <960923221839_484102368@[removed]>

Does anyone know if the Bob Hope/Jane Russell exchange mentioned in OTRD #348
survives and is in circulation? Date? -- Anthony Tollin




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