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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 63


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Grand Ole Opry, McGee, Striker, Boone, and Riggs
	 shows that gave me the creeps and a favorite sound
	 Stan Freberg's Radio Promos
	 Bradbury 13 Commercial Availability
	 The Shadow
	 Disney's Oscars
	 Action in the Afternoon
	      CD file size - thanks for the help
	 RE: Orson [removed]
	 RE: Bradbury 13
	 Re: Actors on Stage?
	 Re: Radio Charlie, [removed] Digest V96 #61
	 1932 policy on commercials

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:10:27 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Grand Ole Opry, McGee, Striker, Boone, and Riggs
Message-ID: <960216001027_145608161@[removed]>

Hi Gang -                               February 15 - 1996 -- 10:30 PM cst 

In issue 60/61, Bill Harris asks about a Grand Ole Opry show from the 
1930's.  The way Bill's question is worded, I'm not sure if he's looking for 
a Grand Ole Opry program that was broadcast in the 1930's or if he's looking
for any Grand Ole Opry program and indicates that it was on the air in the 
1930's.  Dave - There are LOTS of Grand Ole Opry programs in Circulation, 
but I have not seen any from the 1930's.  There are some Magic Water Crystals
shows in my collection (Buddy Starcher), which I believe are from the 1930's
or
early 1940's if that might help.  I believe some of the people on that
program 
migrated to the Grand Ole Opry -  Perhaps somebody could clarify this. 

--- New Topic ---  Fibber McGee and Molly "Night Before Christmas" 

Every Christmas for several years running, Fibber would tell his version of 
"The Night Before Christmas" to Teeny.  Eventually an album (78 rpm discs) 
was released (by Johnson Wax ?) due to popular demand.  The album in the 
Museum of Broadcast Communication in Chicago is one of these.  I presume 
the album in Dave discovered in the antique shop is another of this same set.

Depending on the price, they could be a nice addition to anybody's
collection.
Trouble with antique shops is that "antiques" cost a lot more than old
records. 

--- New Topic -- Issue 58  

I did not receive issue 58 through the network.  Perhaps other people on AOL 
didn't receive it either.  I know that other people using different servers
did receive
it, and I manged to get a copy forwarded to me today.
Regarding Fran Striker Jr.'s book:  I have a copy here, but have been unable 
to locate it.  I think it's in the same pile as Joan Benny's book.  When I
find it
I'll post the numbers, and all other information that might be necessary to
find 
it from "out of print" book dealers.
Also, I think the e-mail address for Fran has too many characters. 
I believe the AOL limit is TEN characters before the @ and it WILL accept
spaces (unless there has been a change).  Perhaps the "550 " is superfluous
and "franstriker" has one too many characters.  No, I don't know what his 
real address is, but it's probably something like fstriker or franstrike.   

--- Last Comment ---  My "vote" for Lou's Soundbite

Either or both [removed] "Speed" Riggs or [removed] Boone (auctioneers) chanting:
"Heydayfodowminiminiminiboodleboodle - Sold American!"
"Hamamanamamanalafalfalafa-sold -- American!"  --- or whatever it was they
said.  
(from Your Hit Parade and Jack Benny)  

Happy Taping - Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois 
kenpiletic@[removed] 

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:03:07 EST
From: bspro@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: shows that gave me the creeps and a favorite sound
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi, all, speaking of shows that gave me the creeps how about a Suspense
show starring William Conrad and Kathy Lewis--Never Steal a Butcher's
Wife. Another Suspense show that creeped me out was one starring Kary
Grant and once again, Kathy Lewis. I think it was called On A Country Road.
Kary and Kathy were driving in a car when they here a news bulletin on
the radio about a woman who has escaped from an insane asylum and is
thought to be in the area. I still get the creeps when I listen to
either of those shows.
Speaking of favorite sound bites, how about the Lowell Thomas broadcast
where he is reading a story about Dolly Dimples--the world's most
beautiful fat lady.
Lowell cracks up while reading and also does a classic lowell Thomas
blooper too.
Well I'll shut up for now.
Bill Scherer bspro@[removed]
Ps. Does anyone know what Kathy Lewis looked like and did she ever act
in movies?

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:48:21 -0500 (EST)
From: rjones@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Stan Freberg's Radio Promos
Message-Id: <[removed]@mail>

A. Joseph Ross the other day mentioned one of radio's greatest
promotions, written, produced, and acted in by Stan Freberg, along with
some of his regular cast of players in those days. It was sponsored by
Station Representatives Association in 1965. Mr. Ross remembered a
marschino cherry being dropped into Lake Michigan. I still have the LP
which the Representatives sent to stations and here is a transcription.
With Stan on the spot was Paul Frees. 

FREES:   (disdainfully) Radio!  Why should I advertise 
          on Radio? There's nothing to look at---no pictures.

FREBERG: Listen. You can do things on radio you couldn't 
         possibly do on Television.

FREES:   That'll be the day.

FREBERG; (on echo mike) [removed] People. Now, when I give the 
         cue I want the seven hundred foot mountain of
         whipped cream to roll into Lake Michigan which has
         been drained and filled with hot chocolate. Then the     
         Royal Canadian Air Force will fly over, towing a
         ten ton maraschino cherry which will be dropped in-
         to the whipped cream to the cheering of twenty-five
         thousand extras.

	 ALL RIGHT, CUE THE MOUNTAIN.
            (groaning, shifting sounds of mountain moving,
             and then loud splash as it drops into the lake)

         CUE THE AIR FORCE  (roar of airplanes over head)

         CUE THE MARASCHINO CHERRY (slide whistle sound as 
                        cherry falls, then PLOP into lake)

	 [removed] TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND EXTRAS (huge cheering).

FREBERG TO FREES: Now. Wanna try that on Radio?

FREES:  (long, drawn out) W e l l.

FREBERG: You see---Radio's a very special medium because it 
         stretches the imagination.

FREES:   Doesn't television stretch the imagination?

FREBERG: Up to twenty-one inches---yes.


Those of you who are familiar with the great style of Freberg, add your
own emphasis. The material loses a lot in transcription. On the LP it
sounds as fresh as it did 31 years ago. Stan produced four other spots
along with "Stretching The Imagination" and wrote a jingle---I hate to
use the word because it's more than that---a musical identification or
signature piece which Quincy Jones arranged and produced and Sara
Vaughan sang. It really swung. Here are the lyrics:


          Who listens to Radio?
          That go-where-you-go medium called Radio?
          That's with you every night
          Through the long commuter flight,
          And in the morning with your toast and marmeladio?

          Who listens to Radio?
          No matter if it's summer, winter, spring, or fall,
          Who listens to R--A--A--A Dio?
          Only one hundred and fifty million
                (Band with big reprise of last line)
          One hundred and fifty million people---THAT'S ALL.
          

	I hate reducing a couple of brilliant pieces to type on a screen,
but perhaps those of you who weren't there will get some idea--and those
who remember will---remember.   
                          
                                       Bob Jones
                                       Glyndon, Maryland.










      








    

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Date: 16 Feb 1996 06:40:11 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Ron B. Hare)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Bradbury 13 Commercial Availability
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

To John Sexton and others who are interested in commercial versions of
Bradbury 13 shows:

Look in your neighborhood drugstore, roadside restaurants, discount book
stores and who knows where else for Paperback Audio releases of all 12
Bradbury 13's. They're 5 bucks for two half-hour shows, packaged in a
cardboard sleeve with bright graphics that should be instantly recognizable
as a science fiction cassette. These are real bargains and are currently
available in a lot of stores.

Ron Hare
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:47:25 -0500
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Shadow
Message-ID: <960216074723_424042943@[removed]>

Bruce Rudsill says other actors were better at the Shadow than Welles.  I
disagree.  I think his episode, "The Silent Avenger," was the best I've
heard.  The hokey "socialist" conscious that Welles infused in the episodes
he appeared in definitely added to the show's character, making them more
than just comic-books without pictures.

I would say that because the writing on the shows he appeared in was more
engaging than those he did not, that Welles still takes the prize as the best
"Shadow."

And by the way, I seem to recall that only two of John Archer's Shadows still
exist, so its kind of hard to judge him vs. the others, don't you think?  Of
course, they were all better than Alec Baldwin.

Best,

Sean Dougherty
Kubelski@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:09:07 -0600 (CST)
From: Roger Bullis <rbullis@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Disney's Oscars
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

>>The [removed] had propaganda songs, too, but the one I remember best 
is             
>>Spike Jones' recording of "Der Fuehrer's Face", written by Oliver Wallace,
>>and featured in the Disney Cartoon "Donald Duck in Nutziland".
 
>This cartoon was one of first to win Academy Award.   

I believe that Disney's 1933 Flowers and Trees won an Oscar as well as 
1937's Snow White.


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                               (o o) 
  _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo__________________________________
 |  "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.                      |
 |  "Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx             |
  ______________________________________________________________________/
		Roger Bullis   (rbullis@[removed])
 			Division of Communication
	University of Wisconsin, Stevens Point, WI  54481 USA

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 96 08:22:42 -0600
From: rrepotsk@[removed] (RICHARD R. REPOTSKI - LADA)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Action in the Afternoon
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

....so someone remembers A in the A ....I know I do ....an early 50's
TV [removed] remember at every opening scene the actors were "frozen"
in position until after the title Action in the Afternoon appeared on
the [removed] was truly one of a kind!

I wonder if it was ever on the [removed] guess, though, it would be
very hard to emulate the opening on the [removed]

BTW do you all remember the Pete Smith Comedies in the
[removed] that could go wrong happened to Pete!  What show
on OTR was able to compare to [removed] there any?  Cheers.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:09:50 EST
From: Lee Maschmeyer <LMASCHM@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:      CD file size - thanks for the help
Message-Id: <m0tnSDY-000YMzC@[removed]>

Many thanks to Chris, Lou, and Bob for explaining the reason for Chris's
initial figures.  I had always figured the sampling rate given meant
that one sample came along [removed] times per second, ratther than [removed]
times for each channel per second.  As to why the sampling rate has to
be twice (plus head room) the maximum frequency response, Lou says it's
because of "low frequency aliasing" (what's that?).  Anyway I'm more
than willing to accept it as a given.

Just goes to prove the not-at-all surprining fact that reading about it
in Stereo Review and the late High Fidelity doesn't teach you as much as
actually doing it.

Does anyone else have reservations about perceptual coding and/or noise
reduction as applied to OTR?  My feelings on this type of processing
seem to run completely counter to those of everyone else.  In the 1970s
the Artur Schnabel/Malcom Sargent recordings of the Beethoven piano
concertos were released on LP.  The 78RPM masters were very scratchy.
When the CD version was released in the late '80s or so, they used
No-Noise to remove the scratches.  I bought the CD versions specifically
because they were panned in High Fidelity, and I think they're great!
But the Smithsonian OTR programs that everyone else here has loved, I
think are relatively poor based on a demo cassette sent out by Radio
Spirits.  I have no measurable high frequency hearing, but am very
critical in the range that I do have.

Or else I'm just nuts. :-)

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:56:03 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: Orson [removed]
Message-Id: <v01520d00ad49be631a96@[[removed]]>

DAVID ALLAN BOUCHER asks:
>What did he make after Citizen Kane that would be worth checking out???

        Well, we are drifting away from OTR here, but try,
THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS (which some consider *better* than CK, though I'm
not among them)
        His three Shakespearean films: MACBETH (filmed for nickles at
Republic pictures), CHIMES AT MIDNIGHT (previously mentioned by David
MacMurray), and OTHELLO (ditto).
        His "noir" films, THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI (with the famous hall of
mirrors sequence), and TOUCH OF EVIL (the epitome, nay *apotheosis* of noir
- or something).
        I might recommend THE TRIAL, but I've never seen it myself.
        And the truly odd yet fascinating, F FOR FAKE (I doubt this can be
found on video, though).
        As an actor, there are several, such as his deliciously evil Harry
Lime in THE THIRD MAN (later reprised as "The Lives of Harry Lime" radio
series - he was a much nicer fellow on radio); his terrific Darrowesque
attorney in COMPULSION
        Yeah, I'd say there was life after KANE for the old "has-been."

Alan

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:19:43 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: Bradbury 13
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,
 
John Sexton wrote:
 
> I have recently done a search for the availability of the Bradbury 13        
> audio tapes. My intensive search revealed that Magic Eye published the tapes.
> Unfortunately the tapes are listed as Out-Of-Stock and Out-Of-Print -which
> means that they are no longer available. A check with several of the major
> distributors including Ingrams,Baker & Taylor,and Nacscorp verified that the 
> tapes are indeed no longer available commercially. When I finally located 
> the phone number for Magic Eye - I was sad to find out that no more are they 
> available.
 
I heard Adventures in Cassettes, from whom I bought them, also dropped them.
They were actually published by Durkin Hayes Publishing Ltd. (1 Colomba Drive,
Niagara Falls, NY 14305).  I have a list below of tape numbers (or at least
the 4 significent numbers) and tape contents.  This is really unfortunate. I
fear this is what will happen to ALL modern shows where copyright is in force.
(PLEASE, don't take this as a comment to start the copyright thing again!!!)
NARA does list 10 of the shows in their catalog. Erstwhile Radio ([removed] Box 
2284, Peabody, MA 01960) listed 12.  They overlap to make all 13 available.  
Only the interview with Ray Bradbury is missing.  I was going to write to 
Durkin Hayes suggesting they come out with a 7-tape set featuring all 13 
shows and the interview.  Guess I'm to late. Anyway, here's the list for those
who want to try searching:
 
Tape  A Side Title                      B Side Title
----  --------------------------------  --------------------------------
7663  "Dark They Were And Golden Eyed"  "The Fox and The Forest"
7664  "Kaleidoscope"                    "There Was An Old Woman"
7668  "A Sound Of Thunder"              "Night Call, Collect"
7675  "The Ravine"                      "Here There Be Tigers"
7680  "The Man"                         "The Happiness Machine"
7684  "The Wind"                        "The Veldt"
 
Good hunting!
 
Frank

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:17:53 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Actors on Stage?
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

dennisdm@[removed] (Dennis F DeMarco) writes:
>When an  
>actor appeared in a radio show, did that actor stay backstage (or I 
>guess outside of the studio to be correct) until it was time for that 
>person to appear? In other words, would Rochester wait "in the wings" 
>until it was time to appear and then leave the studio when done?

I see no reason why they wouldn't, if they wanted a good crowd reaction
when the actor first appeared ([removed] applause, surprise, etc.).

A film clip I've seen a couple of times of what looks to be a touring
performance of the Jack Benny show has Jack reading some line which
introduces Rochester. The film cuts to Eddie Anderson just as he begins
to speak (some innocuous line like, "Hello, [removed]"), at which point 
the audience erupts in applause, and the impeccably-dressed Anderson 
does a sort of half-turn-and-bow to the audience before reading his 
next line.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Adobe Systems, Inc. (formerly Frame Technology)
Advanced Product Services
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 96 08:40 GMT
From: midshires@[removed] (Andrew Emmerson)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: midshires@[removed]
Subject: Re: Radio Charlie, [removed] Digest V96 #61
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In-Reply-To: <[removed]@[removed]>
CHARLIE & HIS ORCHESTRA
A couple of people have asked for details of the CDs I mentioned; here's 
the information.

CHARLIE & HIS ORCHESTRA: GERMAN PROPAGANDA SWING 1941-42
HQ CD03

CHARLIE & HIS ORCHESTRA: VOL. 2,  I GOT RHYTHM
HQ CD09

Product of Interstate Music Ltd. [removed] Box 74, Crawley, Sussex, RH11 0LX.
No phone or fax no. listed.

Certainly available retail by mail order from:
 Red Lick Records
 [removed] Box 3
 PORTMADOC
 Gwynedd
 LL48 6AQ
 United Kingdom.

tel: +44 1766-770990, fax +44 1766-771010. North American readers dial 
011 instead of the plus sign.

Price around £15 = $22 each.

Good luck,
Andy.

PS: Please don't call it Radio Charlie. I've never heard this expression 
before and I think this is someone's accidental fabrication.

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:52:10 -0500
From: MVHaas@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: MVHaas@[removed]
Subject: 1932 policy on commercials
Message-ID: <960216155208_424350398@[removed]>

   I ran across the following item in the Chicago Herald & Examiner for Sept.
15, 1932:

   "William S. Paley, president of CBS, issued a statement yesterday saying
that from now on his stations will not accept any 15 minute program  having
more than 90 seconds of sales patter. Thirty minute and hour programs will
also be on a ten per cent sales talk basis."

   I wonder how long that lasted?

best -- Merlin Haas

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