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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 378

Table Of Contents: 

	 Re: Hollywood & otr
	 the End of the Lone Ranger?
	 ILAM
	 OTR Chat
	 Amos & Andy
	 "Shoelaces" The Dream Comes True
	 Squeal
	 What happened to
	 Conventions, Otr and cartoons
	 The DA's name
	 Lone Ranger onscreen
	 Shadow program
	 missing Jack Benny shows on AIC
	 Re: Lone Ranger onscreen
	 WIXIE Wonderland
	 Re: Big Screen Lone Ranger
	 Reel Talk recorder
	 OTR Book Searcher

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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 10:48:09 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Hollywood & otr
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]> writes:
>Given this, I'm surprised there hasn't been any attempt to do a big screen
>Lone Ranger. He has the presence and almost everyone, young and old, are
>familiar with the character.

As others may point out, there _was_ one made back around 1979: "Legend
of the Lone Ranger" or something like that, starring the immortal Klinton
Spilsbury, who probably deserves some sort of award for his name alone. I
have not seen the movie myself but it was widely regarded as awful. Seems
to me I read somewhere that Spilsbury's voice was also dubbed throughout 
by another actor with more imposing tones. This was definitely not a 
memorable movie so I don't claim that all of the above is 100% accurate.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 10:58:17 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: the End of the Lone Ranger?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

someone sed:  >Hollywood is really into OTR!
>

Jim Widner, then sed:  Given this, I'm surprised there hasn't been any
attempt to do a big screen Lone Ranger. He has the presence and almost
everyone, young and old, are familiar with the character.

Chet forelornly sez:  Afraid that very, very bad movie (_the Legend of
the Lone Ranger_) destroyed the legend for at least a full generation. 
There's something incredible about a movie which flirts with greatness,
then drops the ball so heavily at each key moment.  Examples:  When the
movie cries out for "the William Tell Overture," the slow Merle Haggard
song is played.  Where Clayton Moore looked determined when he put on
the mask (origin sequence of _the Lone Ranger & the Lost City of Gold_),
Spilsbury looked -- embarassed.  Michael Horse was very good, as was
Jason Robard (though wasted), and even Christopher Lloyd worked as
a Butch Cavendish (very inspired by the bad guy in the first serial) who
really needed a Lone Ranger to stop him.

Since OTR doesn't seem to have reached the wide audience it deserves,
we can only hope that the Moore TV show (not Mary Tyler Moore)
reaches new heights of syndication.

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quote of the day:  "As a novelist, I tell stories and people give me money.
Then financial planners tell me stories, and I give them money."  
             --Martin Cruz Smith

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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:28:15 -0700
From: Frank Mallory <frankm@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: ILAM
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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 o>Does anyone know the exact reason why the vast majority of I Love a
 o>Mysteries are not circulated?  I'd rather have not known that there 
 o>were 35
 o>later ILAMs with Tony Randall , Jim Boles, et. al. made that are lost 
 o>to us;
 o>it makes me heartbroken to desire something I can never listen to. The 
 o>other
 o>five I know nearly by heart. There are so few of Carleton E. Morses 
 o>sagas
 o>left, but for plotlines and action sequences, these adventures cannot 
 o>be beat.

I agree with you. I am pretty sure not even Morse had them, so I don't think you would be able to get anything from Tony Randall. No doubt there are recordings somewhere, guarded from release due to fear of litigation over copyright.

But are you saying you have only 5? I have some or all of 8:

        Fear That Creeps Like a Cat
        Thing That Cries in the Night
        Bury Your Dead, Arizona
        Million Dollar Curse (aka Richard's Curse)
        Temple of the Vampires
        Battle of the Century
        Murder in Turquoise Pass
        Case of the Roxy Mob
        Hermit of San Felipe, Atapado

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 10:44 PDT
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Chat
Message-Id: <m0vAgCX-000839C@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

                                OTR CHAT REMINDER

Live Chat, 8 PM EST, on IRC, Starlink net, #OTR Channel.  Hoping to gather a
larger group.  Last week we discussed, among other things, the mechanics of
rehearsing a radio show - the scripts, etc.  One member has hundreds of
tapes available for copying and exchange.  Come in and let's talk about your
special interests!

Some servers for IRC Starlink are:
[removed]
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[removed]
[removed]
[removed]
[removed]
[removed]

Lois Culver
lois@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:09:53 +0000
From: "F. Charles Simar" <FCharlesSimar@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Amos & Andy
Message-ID: <[removed]@DEFAULT>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Could someone email me or post a synopsis for The Amos & Andy story (Radiola
25 & 26).

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:10:42 -0400
From: AIC4Radio@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "Shoelaces" The Dream Comes True
Message-ID: <961008151040_121753152@[removed]>

>Could this be the ever elusive "Buying Shoelaces for Don" Christmas episode.
>
>Dare I dream ? ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?

Dare to dream, Tom, and KNOW THAT DREAMS COME TRUE!

See the ADVENTURES IN CASSETTES Web Site (address below) under:  
NEW RELEASES - Jack Benny!

Sue Hamilton
AIC4Radio@[removed]
[removed]

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Date: 08 Oct 1996 12:00:25 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Ron B. Hare)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Squeal
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

We seem to be overcomplicating this tape squeal thing. We've been through this
discussion before. I've tried all of the alternatives and almost all will
work. The one thing that applies to ALL methods is to keep your machine clean
and replace any worn parts in the tape path. But we are all diligent about
this (aren't we?).

I second Bob Burnham's advice. The easy way is to bake squealers in the
kitchen for a long time at a relatively low temperature. This has always
worked for me too. There's hardly any risk except for warped reels. At the
temps and durations we're talking about here, a convection oven adds no
value. If you're timid, just start at a low temperature for a few hours. Some
reels may respond. If not, gradually sneak up the temperature and time until
the squeal goes away.

I think that the complicated procedures come from the pro audio industry
where original track  masters are worth big bucks. There's no room for risk
there. And, there seems to be comfort in complicated procedures.
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Date: 8 Oct 1996 15:09:28 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: What happened to
Message-Id: <m0vAiP9-000k1kC@[removed]>

Hi, all, When I listen to OTR shows with sponsors that no longer exist I
can't help but wonder what happened to them. For instance--R O M A. Roma
wine--made in California for enjoyment throughout the world.
Anyone know?

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Date: 8 Oct 1996 15:13:54 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Conventions, Otr and cartoons
Message-Id: <m0vAiUU-000k2nC@[removed]>

I just can't stay away. Has there ever been an OTR convention similar to
FOT in the midwest?
  New Topic
The other day when I was watching the "Fantastic 4", the 60's version, I
recognized the voice of Jerold More as one of them. What ever happened
to him?

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:16:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: lev@[removed] (S or A Levene)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The DA's name
Message-Id: <v01530501ae8021c85849@[[removed]]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

No doubt many people will post this information but during the heyday of
Mr. District Attorney - the Jay Jostyn years - the title character had no
name - he was just the [removed] and he was usually  called "Chief",
particularly by Harrington.  John Dunning tells us that later, when David
Brian took the role, he was given a name, Paul Garrett, but I can only
recall the stirring, righteous, trustworthy  tones of  Jay Jostyn.  Anybody
have any biographical information on him?
Sam Levene

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 15:22 CDT
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed], jwidner@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger onscreen
Message-Id: <m0vAifL-000k1kC@[removed]>

Jim Widner:
>I'm surprised there hasn't been any attempt to do a big screen
>Lone Ranger. He has the presence and almost everyone, young and old, are
>familiar with the character.

You missed it, Jim:
"The Legend of the Lone Ranger," 1981, starring the world-famous Klinton
Spilsbury.  By all accounts that I've read, it's wretched.  It was also
because of this little item that Clayton Moore was enjoined not to wear the
LR mask in public appearances, as the producing company didn't want any
competition when the movie came out.
But there are others:  Moore and Jay Silverheels appeared in 2 color
features; I think the first one, "The Lone Ranger" (1956) was an original
feature, but the next year's sequel was stitched from TV episodes.
And even before that, there was a 1937 Republic serial of LR.  Unless there
have been recent developments, this serial, thought lost for years, exists
only in an incomplete form with Spanish subtitles.
I'll leave this "film/OTR" topic for now as I know it raises questions with
some of you about "proper content."
John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 16:17:47 -0700
From: Vern Schroeder <vschroed@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shadow program
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi,

Can anyone tell me the date of the Shadow program entitled "The Living 
Head" sponsored by Grove Laboratories?

Is there a list available of what Shadow programs are available?  I have 
around 167 and know of about twenty more. Just wondering how far I have 
to go!

Thanks,  Vern

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:30:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Karen Warton <kwarton@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: missing Jack Benny shows on AIC
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII

Jack Benny fans,

The answer is yes--Adventures in Cassettes' newest offering is a package 
of 12 Christmas Jack Benny shows.  The URL is [removed]
and the price is $[removed] 

The six-tape Jack Benny "Shopping Shows" collection includes:
Shopping for Shoelaces 12/8/46
Exchanging Shoelaces 12/15/46
Last Minute Shopping 12/21/47
Christmas Wallet 12/19/48
Christmas Spirit 12/18/49
Golf Tees for Don 12/17/50
Shopping for Cuff Links 12/2/51
Christmas Headaches 12/14/52
Nutty Dates 12/13/53
Christmas Shopping (gopher trap, I think) 12/5/43
Moonlighting as Santa 12/19/43
Colemans for Dinner 12/23/45

So whip out that credit card and call (800) 328-0108, anytime!!!

(No, I don't work for AIC.  I'm just a humble, rabid Jack Benny fan.)

Note:  the operator said that their shipment had not all arrived, so 
orders may get backed up.  Order now for the [removed]!

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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 17:49:22 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
Cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Lone Ranger onscreen
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks, John. I forgot about the earlier movies. I was actually referring
to this resurgence in otr characters for the "super-big" screen. When I was
listening to an otr episode the other day, it was such an exciting episode
and the William Tell Overture really added to the whole feel, that I
started thinking about an opening to a new version with Dolbyized, stereo,
big speaker version of the WTO as the Masked Rider of the Plains rides into
view. Sort of like the rush some felt when the first Star Wars movie came out.



At 04:22 PM 10/8/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Jim Widner:
>>I'm surprised there hasn't been any attempt to do a big screen
>>Lone Ranger. He has the presence and almost everyone, young and old, are
>>familiar with the character.
>
>You missed it, Jim:
>"The Legend of the Lone Ranger," 1981, starring the world-famous Klinton
>Spilsbury.  By all accounts that I've read, it's wretched.  It was also
>because of this little item that Clayton Moore was enjoined not to wear 

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Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:01:04 -0400
From: "Michael A. Carraher" <carraher@[removed]>
To: <cmarvel@[removed]>,
	<, [removed]@[removed]>
Subject: WIXIE Wonderland
Message-Id: <m0vAkD0-0004BwC@[removed]>
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Osgood, Richard.  "Wixie Wonderland:  An Unauthorized 50 Year Diary of
WXYZ, Detroit."  1981.  Bowling Green University Popular Press, Bowling
Green, Ohio 43403.

Library of Congress Catalog Card Number:  81-82501

ISBN:  0-87972-187-1 (Paperback)

I got my copy by ordering direct from the publisher.
Interesting because of the subject matter.  But the author is a radio
announcer who put his reminiscences (and those of former co-workers) on
tape and had them transcribed.  He is clearly not a trained journalist nor
historian.  The book includes many quotes and verbatim conversations which
are probably re-created from someone's memory long after the fact.  In
short, an amateur effort which could have used a ghost and a good editor. 
His depiction of Brace Beemer is colorful but not entirely flattering.

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:12:14 -0400
From: Neubacher@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Big Screen Lone Ranger
Message-ID: <961008191213_539190674@[removed]>

     There have been several big screen Lone Ranger movie.  Several with
Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels.  One may have been just the LONE RANGER
 and I believe the other was call THE LONE RANGER AND THE CITIES OF GOLD.  
In addition there was THE LEGEND OF THE LONE RANGER about 10-15 years ago.
The name of the masked man and his friendly indian companion escape me for
the moment but Christopher Lloyd played Butch Cavendish.

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:32:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rhiman Rotz--IU Northwest <rrotz@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Reel Talk recorder
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

	Someone asked about this recorder.  I was just looking at
the back of my Wireless catalog and it looks like the makers have
changed the tape speed to normal, removing one of the biggest
objections.  The description says "the tape drive runs at normal
speed, recording 1 hour per side of a C-120 cassette."
	Now, the question would be whether this model, which sells
for $[removed] out of the *Wireless* catalog, has any features (like
more than one slot for recordings, or setting up a few days in 
advance) which the Radio Shack Chronomatic 309 doesn't have.  I
don't own one but it's a clock radio and recorder, and a friend
at least says he can use it to record things by setting the clock
timer and turning the volume down or something.  It sells for
$[removed]

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:57:28 EDT
From: claughli@[removed] (Charles Laughlin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Book Searcher
Message-Id: <[removed]@superior>

I have mentioned in the past, but will do so again, that my daughter
Kate is a long time book searcher and cause she's my kid, she is very
sensitive to OTR buffs.  You can contact her at
[removed]

I don't get a percentage.  I whine and snivel and it does no good.
She just won't cough up the dough.  Seriously, she is very good at it
and has been doing it for a decade at least.  You pay nothing unless
and until she finds the book for you.

[removed]
Charlie
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Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6               Ph: 819/459-1121
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