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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 324
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  "...and the smell [removed] Gunsmoke" --  [ Jim Erskine <homeway@[removed]; ]
  Re:Empire Builders dates              [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  Gunsmoke                              [ "b. schell" <bschell@[removed]; ]
  Re: Gildersleeve movies               [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
  11-16 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  A Bit More on Empire Builders         [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  RE: Help wilth a Gunsmoke Episode     [ "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@worldn ]
  11 or 12 Gildersleeve movies?         [ jhcollins@[removed] ]
  CBS News Archives                     [ Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed] ]
  Gunsmoke Episode                      [ "Karen Lerner" <karen@radiospirits. ]

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:13:02 -0500
From: Jim Erskine <homeway@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "...and the smell [removed] Gunsmoke" -- NOT!

Does anyone recall the episode of Gunsmoke that was dubbed over as some
kind of practical joke by Wm. Conrad and the cast? I remember the
opening VERY well, because my kids, who were pretty young at that age,
were listening through the episodes consecutively, and had me come in
and listen to this (only AFTER they had played it over and over). In the
intro, "...the smell of Gunsmoke!" was dubbed in (by Conrad) "...the
smell of s*it!" They thought it was hysterical. There was all sorts of
cracks throughout the episode pretty much in the same vein. Oy!

I think this was discussed way, way back on this list, but I can't
figure out how to find it. Anyone remember the date and/or title of that
particular episode?

Thanks,
kylistener

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:31:17 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:Empire Builders dates

Jerry Haendiges wrote:

Whether any of this is true or not, I have no idea.  None of the
research I've done shed's any light on the subject.  But based on what
meager facts I do have, I plan to leave it's date as 12-1-30 until such
time as someone can verify the correct date one way or another.

If someone is near the Library of Congress and has the proper
identification to do research there,
the NBC Master Logs might be available for checking to see if they show
an air date. I don't get
there often enough since I am in the midwest.

Jim Widner

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:53:55 -0500
From: "b. schell" <bschell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Gunsmoke
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I have recently started listening to Gunsmoke but am finding the music between
acts not only too long but very repetitious.  Do they ever change this music
during the Gunsmoke run on radio? The theme is great it is just the music
between acts and commercials.
Bill Schell
Magalia, Ca

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:54:27 -0500
From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Gildersleeve movies

Hello again -

It's great that Turner Classic Movies is showing these four old Gildersleeve
films next week (Look Who's Laughing, etc. and others have him appearing
only as a minor character), but if you've never seen them, keep in mind that
only Hal Peary, Lillian Randolph and Richard LeGrande reprise their radio
roles, and LeGrande's appearance will forever change your idea of what Mr.
Peavey should look like -- he is actually taller than Peary! (Well, now, I
WOULD say that!)

After seeing these films I much prefer to follow the adventures of
Gildersleeve as they were meant to be followed, by sound only over the
radio. I'll be interested in other OTRers reactions to these films once they
have seen them!

yOurs TRuly

Jan Bach

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:03:26 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-16 births/deaths

November 16th births

11-16-1873 - W. C. Handy - Florence, AL - d. 3-28-1958
jazz trumpeter, composer: "Cavalcade of Music";"Freedom's People"
11-16-1887 - Arthur Krock - Glasgow, KY - d. 4-12-1974
journalist: "Information Please"
11-16-1889 - George S. Kaufman - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-2-1961
panelist: "Information, Please"; "This Is Broadway"; "Who Said That?"
11-16-1894 - Ruth Cornell Woodman - d. 4-22-1970
creator, writer: "Death Valley Days"; "Cavalcade of America"
11-16-1895 - Michael Arlen - Rustchuk, Bulgaria - d. 6-23-1956
creator: "The Falcon"
11-16-1896 - Jim Jordan - Peoria, IL - d. 4-1-1988
comedian: Mickey Donavan, "Kaltenmeyer's Kindergarten"; "Fibber McGee
"Fibber McGee and Molly"
11-16-1896 - Lawrence Tibbett - Bakersfield, CA - d. 7-15-1960
singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Golden Voices"
11-16-1899 - Mary Margaret McBride - Paris, MO - d. 4-7-1976
commentator: "Mary Margaret McBride"; "Martha Deane"
11-16-1905 - Eddie Condon - Goodland, IN - d. 8-4-1973
guitarist, host: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
11-16-1907 - Burgess Meredith - Cleveland, OH - d. 9-9-1997
actor: "Red Adams/Red Davis "Red Adams/Red Davis" (the precursor to
"Pepper Young's Family")
11-16-1911 - Sonny Dunham - Brockton, MA - d. 7-9-1990
trumpeter, bandleader: "One Night Stand"; "Spotlight Bands"
11-16-1912 - George O. Petrie - New Haven, CT - d. 11-16-1997
actor: Michael Waring "The Falcon"; John J. Malone "Amazing Mr. Malone"
11-16-1912 - Paul Dudley - Massachusetts - d. 5-18-1959
writer: "Pot o' Gold"; "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
11-16-1913 - Jack "Smilin' Jack" Smith - Bainbridge Island, WA - d.
7-3-2006
singer: "Breezing Along"; "Prudential Family Hour"; "Jack Smith Show"
11-16-1916 - Daws Butler - Toledo, OH - d. 5-19-1988
actor: "Sears Radio Theatre"; "Stan Freberg Show"; "That's Rich"
11-16-1919 - Marion Bell - St. Louis, MO - d. 12-14-1997
actor, singer: "The Railroad Hour"
11-16-1919 - Ronald (Harold) Hardy - d. 10-xx-1991
wrote plays for radio and television
11-16-1921 - Evelyn Goodkin - d. 9-5-2005
actor: Marge Minter "Myrt and Marge"; Penny Latham "Dan Harding's Wife"
11-16-1927 - Barbara Payton - Cloquet, MN - d. 5-8-1967
actor: "Pepsodent Show starring Bob Hope"
11-16-1938 - Walter J. Learning - Quidi Vidim, New Foundland, Canada
wrote scripts for the CBC

November 16th deaths

02-01-1901 - Clark Gable - Cadiz, OH - d. 11-16-1960
actor: "So Proudly We Hail"; "Silver Theatre"
03-04-1904 - Joseph Schmidt - Davideny, Bukovina, Austria-Hungary -
d. 11-16-1942
singer: "General Motors Concerts"
04-17-1918 - William Holden - O'Fallon, IL - d. 11-16-1981
actor: "Hour of Mystery"; "Smiths of Hollywood"; "So Proudly We Hail"
04-21-1930 - Kirby Ayres - d. 11-16-2005
disk jockey: "Bob and Ray Present the CBS Radio Network"
05-07-1906 - Jack Johnstone - NYC - d. 11-16-1991
writer, producer, director: "Buck Rogers"; "CBS Radio Workshop"; "Six
Shooter"
05-24-1916 - Tony Barrett - NYC - d. 11-16-1974
actor: Charlie Dyer "This Life is Mine"; Biff Bradley "Pepper Young's
Family"
06-06-1900 - Arthur Askey - Liverpool, England - d. 11-16-1982
comedian: "Band Waggon"; "Music Hall"; "Does the Team Think"
06-13-1913 - Ralph Edwards - Merino, CO - d. 11-16-2005
host, announcer: "Truth or Consequences"; "This Is Your Life";
"Original Amateur Hour"
07-31-1912 - Milton Friedman - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-16-2006
economist: Radio Australia
08-04-1905 - Frank Luther - Lakin, KS - d. 11-16-1980
singer: "Luther-Layman Singer"; "Frank Luther Show"; "Happy Wonder
Bakers Trio"
08-15-1914 - Eve Alwyn - Christ Church, New Zealand - d. 11-16-2005
actor: WEAT West Palm Beacg, Florida
09-06-1881 - Charlie Dale - NYC - d. 11-16-1971
comedian: (Smith and Dale) "Al Jolson"; "Kate Smith"
09-21-1915 - Mac Benoff - NYC - d. 11-16-1972
writer: "The Mel Blanc Show"
09-27-1885 - Harry Blackstone, Sr. - Chicago, IL - d. 11-16-1965
magician: "Harry Blackstone, the Magic Detective" based on him.
09-28-1903 - Boake Carter - Baku, Russia - d. 11-16-1944
news commentator: "Night newscast for CBS"
10-24-1916 - Ray Singer - NYC - d. 11-16-1992
writer: "Phil Harris/Alice Faye Show"; "Rudy Vallee Show"; "Charlotte
Greenwood Show"
12-04-1910 - Mary Hunter - Bakersfield, CA - d. 11-16-2000
actor: Marge "Easy Aces"; "Against the Storm"
12-20-1914 - Patti Pickens - Macon, GA - d. 11-16-1995
singer: (Pickens Sisters) "The Pickens Sisters"; "The Magic Key"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:12:42 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  A Bit More on Empire Builders

I've unearthed my notes on these programs, and find that the original
source for the 11/30/30 date was the gentleman who actually transferred
the original discs back in the mid-1970s -- he had sent me a written
listing of all the discs in the collection, which included all the rest
of the programs from March thru June 1931. He never bothered to transfer
these, however, since, as he explained to me, he wasn't interested in
this type of program. He's dead now, I believe, so we can't ask him to
explain further.

The discs, when last heard of, were in the James J. Hill Library in St.
Paul, Minnesota -- whether or not they're still there is anybody's guess.
If they are, they could stand to be rerecorded -- from what I was told,
the original transfers were done in the production room of a local radio
station with inadequate equipment, which makes the circulating copies
sound a lot worse than necessary.

The final authority on what actually was broadcast for this series would
be the NBC files at the Library of Congress. The WJZ program logs would
contain full information as well as any notes about whether the Armistice
Day episode had to be rescheduled.

Elizabeth

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:13:04 -0500
From: "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Help wilth a Gunsmoke Episode

Frank McGurn asked about a GUNSMOKE episode:

I could use help to put a date & a nem on a "Gunsmoke" Episode I have
had it for 30 years, It is the only "Gunsmoke"  that I don't have name
or date. I called "Cold Brand" because that's what it's about.

Lee Dargen wants to kill his foreman, Jim Salter, who knows he steeling
his cows but doesn't know how. Matt discovers that Salter has his own
brand and is putting on Lee's cows and selling them as [removed] Dargen is
John McEntire also in the cast is Harry Bartel and John Dahner along
with the regulars. . . .


	Based on the information you provided, the episode is called "Fall
Semester" which aired on 05/30/1953.

Writer: John Meston

Cast:
William Conrad as Matt Dillon
Georgia Ellis as Kitty (Kitty Russell)
Parley Baer as Chester (Chester Proudfoot)
Howard McNear as Doc (Doc Adams)
John McIntire as Lee Dargen/Smith
Harry Bartell as Jim Salter
John Dehner as Peters/Adams

Sources of Information:
Gunsmoke Script of "Fall Semester"
 and
Norman Macdonnell's Cast and Crew List

Signing off for now,

Stewart Wright

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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:25:48 -0500
From: jhcollins@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  11 or 12 Gildersleeve movies?

Actually, they are playing seven of the eleven or twelve Gildersleeve
movies back-to-back on TCM that day

Thank you, Charlie, and thank you, Martin! So now we have SEVEN Gildy
movies. What are the other four (or five) that we should be watching for?

(And thank you, Ted Turner, for my very favorite commercial-free TV channel.)

- John Collins

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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:26:09 -0500
From: Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  CBS News Archives
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Earlier this week, Michael Biel mentioned a recent newspaer article about the
CBS News Archives. Can anyone post a link to the article he was meaning ?

  Cheers !  Graeme ( ORCA )

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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:28:00 -0500
From: "Karen Lerner" <karen@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Gunsmoke Episode

Frank McGurn asked about an episode of Gunsmoke that he has always called
"Cold Brand."

Frank, I believe that the episode is actually called "Fall Semester" and was
originally broadcast on May 30, 1953.

The Goldin Index describes this episode as follows:  "Lee Dargan is being
cheated by his foreman Jim Slater. His cattle are being stolen, but he doesn't
know how! William Conrad, Parley Baer, Roy Rowan (announcer), Georgia Ellis,
Howard McNear, Norman Macdonnell (director), John McIntire, Harry Bartell,
John Dehner, John Meston (writer), Rex Koury (composer, conductor)."

Regards,
Karen Lerner

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