Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #228
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 7/15/2001 3:10 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 228
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     FOTR Script Contest                  [JayHick@[removed]                    ]
     [removed] Radio Theatre program   ["George Coppen" <gacoppen@[removed]]
     Calling All Cars/Rosenquist          [GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@]
     seeking Sheila Hansen, OTR fan       [khovard@[removed]                   ]
     "The Decoder"                        ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     "Your Neighbor Lady"                 ["jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];    ]
     Damon Runyon Theater                 [Roger Lorette <webmaster@cyber49er.]
     Luck abounds                         [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];    ]
     Archie /Henry                        [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];    ]
     Re: Arthur Q. Brian                  [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];    ]
     Neighbor Lady                        ["Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed]]
     To: Ken Clark  RE: Art Linkletter sh [HERITAGE4@[removed]                  ]
     Re: Elliott Lewis                    ["Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];     ]
     Son of "Calling All Cars" Artists    [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
     Early Bi-Medium Game Show -- You Bet ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     Trademarks & Copyrights              [Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];       ]
     William Bendix and Pearl Harbor      [Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];      ]
     Captain Midnight decoder picture     [Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];      ]

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:40:08 -0400
    From: JayHick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FOTR Script Contest

    Friends of Old-Time Radio Script Contest

    The Ninth annual original script writing contest is now open.  We would like
    an original 30 minute script which must be based on any of the great radio
    programs of the past, such as Jack Benny, Life of Riley, etc.  The only
    difference this time is that they must be a comedy and must be 30 minutes in
    length.  The script can have the characters originating in their original era
    and time or you can update the time to today. If you have entered before and
    you have not won in 2 years, please enter again.
    The script must have all music and sound cues as well as all the spoken
    material.  Try to arrange it in script form so it doesn't have to be retyped.
     It must be double spaced and have large enough type.
    The prize for the best script will be $200 and will have its live performance
    at our 2002 convention on Thursday evening after dinner.  We would like you
    to attend our convention to participate but it is not mandatory.  There will
    be some rehearsal time.  There will also be a second prize winner, who will
    be awarded $100, but not performed.  Scripts must be submitted by August 15,
    2001.  Send to Dave Zwengler, 319 Plymouth Rd., North Brunswick, NJ 08902
    (732) 940-7639.  Return receipt is not necessary.  A distinguished panel of
    three judges including Arthur Anderson will pick the winning script. One of
    the judges will forward detailed suggestions to non-winners for future
    improvements. They must be very readable. All are eligible so please spread
    the word.
    Winners have been Michael Giorgio, James Nixon, Edgar Russell, III, Donald
    Dortmund, Joel Senter, Arlene Osborne and Michael Leannah.  This year's
    winner was K E Bibeau.

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:55:48 -0400
    From: "George Coppen" <gacoppen@[removed];
    To: "otr digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  [removed] Radio Theatre program

    Hello collectors of Lux Radio Theatre. I had a call from a very good friend
    asking if I had a copy of the program No Highway In The Sky, I beleive that
    the broadcast date was April 28th, 1952. Now I have the program but it is
    not a good copy and the person requesting it wants to put it on the air here
    in Manitoba Canada, as a matter of interest the station is a Variety station
    that pushes 14 watts of power and is staffed by a bunch of retired radio
    personal. The music and programs they play are from their own collections
    and their wages are the joy they get from being back on the air making us
    old timers happy to hear it all again. A survey done by someone came up with
    the average age of these people of 70 years young.
    Anyways, I would be thrilled and so would they if someone would sell me a
    copy so I can give it to them. As those folks are too old to use computers,
    Ha Ha,  you can contact me at  gacoppen@[removed] and I will make
    arrangements with you.  Thanks for your [removed] George

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:55:45 -0400
    From: GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Calling All Cars/Rosenquist

        Wasn't Mr. Rosenquist (NOT "Rosencrans") the
    actual, real-life chief radio dispatcher for the Los
    Angeles Police?

        George Wagner
        GWAGNEROLDTIMERADIO@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:20:42 -0400
    From: khovard@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  seeking Sheila Hansen, OTR fan

    I am trying to contact Sheil Hansen with  whom I had an exchange of
    E-mail messages a year or two ago.
    Please reply by E mail to me. I would like to send you a letter
    requesting permission  to  quote you.

    Thanks,

    Howard

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:20:44 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "The Decoder"

    Doug Leary asks about an image of "the Captain Midnight decoder " posted
    on the web.  Well, there are several such; possibly Jim Widner's website
    ([removed] ) is a good place to visit.  However, it's worth
    recalling that there were seven of them.  They were first issued in 1941,
    and were issued every year thereafter save 1943 and 1944, due to a
    shortage of metal during World War II.  The toy company, Klutz, sells
    imperfect replicas of the first, 1941 "Mystery Dial" Code-O-Graph
    ([removed] ).

    In some books about radio premiums, there are stories about the growing
    sophistication of the Code-O-Graph's design.  David Alan Herzog's book
    even notes, "The story goes that the Key-O-Matic [1949] Code-O-Graph
    Decoder was so advanced that Ovaltine received a request for samples from
    the Federal Bureau of Investigation."  Cryptologically, the design of all
    Code-O-Graphs was identical, and employs the same scheme as described by
    Leon Battista Alberti in the Fifteenth Century.  While emotionally I'd be
    delighted to believe that my 1949 Key-O-Matic was in the same league as,
    say, the M-94 cipher device, that would be adding to an urban legend.
    There are unconfirmed reports of some GIs using Code-O-Graphs as
    unofficial field cipher devices: these would almost certainly be 1942
    Photo-Matic units, which had the added advantage of being the flattest
    Code-O-Graphs ever manufactured.  However, if those reports were correct,
    they would have to have been on the GIs initiative, because the units
    aren't very secure against cryptanalysis.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: And, of course, there's the rework of the 1945 Code-O-Graph
    used for the April First edition of the OTR Digest, linked to from
    [removed] - if you weren't a subscriber to
    the OTR Digest back in April, you might want to read
    [removed] to understand the
    back-story of the Code-O-Graph. --cfs3]

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:20:47 -0400
    From: "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Your Neighbor Lady"

    Charlie was right there to answer the question of Wynn Speece celebrating 60
    years on the air at WNAX,  Yankton, SD.
        I'd like add a bit more.   The program is called "Your Neighbor Lady."
    As a born and raised South Dakotan, I recall hearing her as a youngster, and
    I'm 62!
        WNAX was once famous as having the "tallest radio tower in the world,"
    back in the 50s.   Don't know about that claim today.   The station was
    where Lawrence Welk's band got its start.   WNAX was originally housed in
    the Gurney Seed and Feed Company.   As a good marketing effort, the only way
    you could get to visit the station was to, literally, go through Gurney's,
    where you were offered their big seed catalogue.
        WNAX was also home to the Bohemian Band, which our family listened to
    during the week at 6 [removed]

    Jim Stokes
    jstokes@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:20:51 -0400
    From: Roger Lorette <webmaster@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Damon Runyon Theater

    Kenneth L Clarke Wrote:

>     Does anyone out there happen to know some examples
>     of some stories which were broadcast on OTR on the
>     "Damon Runyon Theatre"?  I remember one from my
>     childhood called "A Piece of Pie" which was one of
>     his
>     stories.  If anyone could assist with this, I'd
>     appreciate it.

    If you'd like to listen to the Damon Runyon theater there are over 50
    episodes online in real audio (including "A Piece Of Pie) at my website
    [removed] .  Actually all members of the digest are invited to
    "check it out" as I have over 3000 shows online for listening listening
    enjoyment.

    R Lorette
    webmaster@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:00:26 -0400
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Luck abounds

    "ArtFunk" <ArtFunk@[removed]; wrote

>     We are very lucky to have contributors such as Hal and Conrad and Harry
>     Bartell and also Mrs. Howard Culver and Bill Murtough and others who
>     actually participated in the golden age of broadcasting.  And I can't forget
>     the seemingly omniscient Elizabeth and our own Professor Biel.

    Although I can't speak for the others, I am sure that they would echo my
    sentiments, as follows. It's "we" who are lucky to have so many people
    interested in OTR, that appreciate our involvement in the medium, (Oh so
    long ago), and remain dedicated fans to this day. (We're also lucky to still
    be kicking around so we can join in the fun).

>     and it's really terrific to know that it is appreciated by youngsters like
>     Jeff.

    Yup! Maybe we should encourage Jeff to start an OTR Club at his High School.
    And then another club when he goes to College. Just think. We could spawn a
    whole new generation of OTR fan's who also can't tell the difference between
    "Archie's" and "Jughead's" voices. :)

    Just kidding, Jeff. All the best to you.

    By the way, my thanks to all you other "posters" for your questions and
    comments. I haven't had so much fun since Bob Hastings tripped over a
    microphone cable and his script went flying. And speaking of "Fun", those
    who haven't tried Lois Culver's OTR Chat Room on Thursday evenings should
    check it out. In between Yucks, we even get to talk OTR sometimes. The more
    the merrier. But if you sign on, ignore Ryan, OK! :) He! He!

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    "Jughead"

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:08:34 -0400
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Archie /Henry

    dabac@[removed] said <SNIP>

>     as for Archie vs Henry Aldrich, many people seem to try to compare "adult"
>     shows and "childrens" shows without, it seems to me, appreciating the
>     essential differences in the two, rather then enjoying each "in
>     context".

    I say "Amen" to that Dabac, (whoever you might be).

    But to stay in Character, I must ask!: Did you mention "Archie" first "by
    choice"? Or alphabetically? :)

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    "Jughead"

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:06:14 -0400
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Arthur Q. Brian

    "laurie1125" <lauriep@[removed]; asks

>     Didn't Doc from Fibber McGee +ACY- Molly once placed Mr. Andrews on
>     Archie Andrews?

    How you doing Laurie? If the "Doc" on Fibber was Arthur Q. Brian, you are
    100% correct. He played that part on the show for 13 weeks, when we were
    sponsored by Kraft as a summer replacement for Perry Como. I was talking on
    the phone with Bob Hastings today on that very subject. But I always spelled
    his last name "O'Brian". Bobby says it was plain "Brian". Who's right?

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    "Jughead"

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Neither; it's Arthur Q. Bryan. See:

    [removed]

    ...and thanks to Elizabeth Thomsen's website, [removed] for
    the link.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 23:19:15 -0400
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Neighbor Lady

    Art Funk mentioned hearing the Neighbor Lady interviewed by Susan Stamberg
    today on NPR.  Yes, Wynn (Hubler) Speece has been on WNAX (Yankton, SD)
    since about 1940.  I think she took a break in there somewhere.  Donna
    Halper discusses Speece several times in her new book, Invisible Stars.
    Paul Harvey probably comes in second for years of service, but he is likely
    better known since he has been on a national network most of that time.
        Interesting sidelight:  WNAX has had those call letters since the 1920s,
    but the state department of tourism which edits the state map has mistakenly
    called the station KNAX!  The station celebrates its 80th anniversary next
    year.

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344
    tkneebone1@[removed] | OTR:  [removed]
    [removed]  |
    [removed] || Kids of the New Century:
    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 01:09:59 -0400
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  To: Ken Clark  RE: Art Linkletter shows.

    Hi Ken - You are right, except for your assumption that People Are
    Funny became House Party or visa versa.
    Both programs starred Art Linkletter, but were not spin-offs of the other.
    Tom Heathwood  - Heritage Radio Classics - [removed]
    07/14/01

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    Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 01:10:02 -0400
    From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Elliott Lewis

    Hello again --

>     The Frankie Remley character was played by Elliot Lewis.   If you want to
>     see what he looks like in real life, go rent the video, "Ma & Pa Kettle in
>     New York." Lewis, in comic mobster zoot suit and wide brimed hat,  plays a
>     comic mobster.   "Mr. Magoo" Jim Backus is in there, too, as a comic
>     mobster.

    Actually, the name of this 1950 movie is "Ma and Pa Kettle Go To Town," at
    least in the video
    version I bought -- for no other reason than that I wanted to see Elliott
    Lewis in action! In the United
    Kingdom it was called "Going to Town." More information is available at
    [removed].
    Not a great effort; the least of his radio roles was more challenging than
    this mobster
    character he played.

    Jan Bach

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    Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:24:18 -0400
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Son of "Calling All Cars" Artists

    To fill out the "Calling All Cars" Artists list:

    [removed]

    [removed]

    CAB
    --
    conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
       From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
         Encino, California.

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    Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:24:14 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Early Bi-Medium Game Show -- You Bet!

    Kenneth Clarke asks,

>     Some OTR game shows were also broadcast on  early TV.  Can anyone think
>     of any of them?

    Probably most famous of these was You Bet Your Life, starring Groucho
    Marx.  In fact, for a while it was quasi-simulcast on radio and TV (radio
    a day before TV, each edited down for its medium).

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:23:56 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Trademarks & Copyrights

    Fred Berney explaining information from a Patent & Trademark attorney friend:

>     For example, if the Shadow radio shows are in public domain, but someone
>     still owns the Shadow name as a trade mark, then you could sell the shows
>     and advertise them using the name The Shadow. But you could not make a
>     shirt with the name The Shadow on it.

    I am not a Patent attorney, but somehow I take this with a lot of caution.
    Staying with your example, if the trademark covers "The Shadow" with regard
    to creation of goods and services of audio material, then once I package
    the public domain shows and sell them in some sort of package advertised as
    The Shadow Radio Shows, would I still be free from prosecution?  If I
    simply place them on, say a CD, and sell them with a non-descript "The
    Shadow" on the CD, I might be ok (I think), but if I try to create some
    kind of marketing package around the shows, can I legitimately use "The
    Shadow?"  I know with most trademarks, you provide, or trademark, the
    actual mark, not in most cases simply the words.

    I would still attempt to consult an attorney before I begin selling radio
    programs that have possibly protected trademarks.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:24:52 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  William Bendix and Pearl Harbor

    Jer51473@[removed] asks if anyone recalls this show:

>     I never remembered the show name or the
>     title, but it was about a guy, Bendix, at Pearl Harbor in early December,
>     1941 and he "knew" about the soon to be attack because he had experienced it
>     before or was from the past or something like that. He was trying to warn
>     everyone and nobody would believe him.

    I do recall it, but will have to look it up. I think I have it on video as
    it was re-broadcast within the last year on one of the cable channels (TV
    Land?) that occasional broadcasts shows from the Radio & Television Museum.
    I believe I taped it at the time.

    What I recall is Bendix' character is actually in Hawaii and trying to warn
    officials to no avail. As I recall he is either in his apartment, or at an
    office, when the attack begins.  If I find it, I will post the info, unless
    someone else has the information handy.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:25:12 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Captain Midnight decoder picture

    Doug Leary wonders who posted a picture of a decoder ring on the
    web.  Doug, I don't know what web page you refer to, but I have a whole
    Captain Midnight history set of pages and sound archives that includes much
    on premiums.

    [removed]

    The specific premiums pages are:  [removed]

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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