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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 304

Table Of Contents: 

	 Re: A Tale Well Calculated . . .
	 Roy Shield, Chi. Music Dir.
	 Re: Mrs Calabash
	 Good night, Mrs Calabash, whereveh you are!
	 Re: TV actors who were once in OTR
	 New Shadow Collection?
	 Issue 300
	 Radio Doesn't Strain Your Eyes
	 Atmospheric Problems?
	 Shadow!
	 More OTR on the Internet
	 Jean Shepherd
	 Re: OTR on TV
	 SF Area Radio
	 The demise of OTR:Some reactions to the thread
	 Lone Ranger

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 08:32:54 -0400
From: JanBach@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: A Tale Well Calculated . . .
Message-ID: <960828083253_511476129@[removed]>

Hello again --
Jim Kitchen and others might find it interesting to hear another version of
"Pearls Are a Nuisance" -- again on Suspense -- from the program of April 19,
1954, in which case William Bendix is the star, playing the part assigned to
Hal March (yes , he of the $64,000 question years ago) in the earlier
production with Ray Milland. Suspense often "recycled" its shows,
particularly in the fifties when the show was shorter and presumably lost
many of its production dollars to TV. Other "recycled" shows of the period
include "Rave Notice," "Home for Christmas," "Black Curtain," and a few
others. Very interesting, in "Home for Christmas," to compare the controlled
performance of Herbert Marshall against the over-the-top performance of Peter
Lorre!

Jan Bach

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 07:36:01 -0500
From: bensmanm@[removed] (Marvin R. Bensman)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Roy Shield, Chi. Music Dir.
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>Dear Dr. Bensman:
>
>Rich Samuels, who has a homepage on radio in Chicago, suggested that I
>write to you with the following queries.
>
>I am researching the work of composer Roy Shield (1893-1962) who was
>NBC's music director between 1931 and 1955. For most of that time he
>worked in Chicago. He conducted his orchestra in many popular variety
>programs, news programs, and plays. I am looking for recordings of his
>music; in particular, the following:
>
>-  NBC Summer Symphony, September 6, 1941 (9:30pm EDST). Contains
>Shield's tone poem "Gloucester".
>
>-  Just Neighbors. Daily serial starring Betty Caine, Kathryn Card,
>Helen Behmiller. As from August 1938 they used a Shield theme song. I
>would like to hear a recording of this so I can identify it.
>
>- Daffy-Dilly Christmas. Fantasy by Willis Cooper. December 25, 1934,
>5:00-5:15pm, NBC-WJZ. Music written by Shield.
>
>I would appreciate any advice you can give.

FROM: schreu@[removed]

I have listened to every minute of our 3,000 hours of radio but have never
come across Shield's name that I can recall. I know that none of the above
programs has ever come to my attention. Looking for specific programs done
on a specific date is a difficult, if not impossible, process. I am going
to post your request to others who are interested in old time radio to see
if any can provide you with assistance. Sorry I could not be of more help.

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:13:45 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Mrs Calabash
Message-ID: <960828091344_511493000@[removed]>

One well-accepted theory is that Mrs. Calabash was Jimmy Durante's late wife.

BILL KNOWLTON, "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE", WCNY-FM, SYRACUSE NY

PS:Fans of pioneer WWVA, Wheeling deejay Lee Moore ("The Coffee Drinking
Nighthawk") will be pleased to know that he's making every effort to appear
at the Del-Se-Nango Fiddlers' Haven, McDonough NY (near Clinton) on Sunday,
Sept. 15th at 1 [removed] I recently obtained the WWVA 15th Anniversary Souvenir
Album from 1951, that had a fine picture of Lee and the rest of the WWVA
staff in those twilight OTR days.

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 07:58:28 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Good night, Mrs Calabash, whereveh you are!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

MORTN2HHC@[removed] asks:  

Hi Gang,

Who was Mrs. Calabash?

....and Chet answers:  We always thought it was a nonsense phrase
spit out by the great Durante at the end of his later radio shows and
about all his TV shows.  (Though I don't remember him signing off with it
on his Lennon Sisters show.)  But _Good Old Days Specials_ September
1996 has an article on Lucy Coleman of Calabash, North Carolina. 
Durante and his troupe stopped at Coleman's restaurant there in 1940
during their travels and Durante seemed to have been charmed by
Coleman's daughter and by the fact that Lucy had no idea who he was. 
"I'm gonna make you famous," he said as he left her restaurant, turning at
the door to say "Good Night, Mrs Calabash!"  Clarice Holden, Lucy's little
daughter, still owned the restaurant as of the date of this interview, said
her "mom was a very private person and really didn't speak much about
her 'Mrs Calabash' entity, declining all interviews and turning down all
invitations to appear on television."

True story or new urban legend?  Dunno, but it sounds right in character
for Jimmy Durante, doesn't it?

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "A critic is a legless man
who teaches running."  -Channing Pollock

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:13:54 -0400
From: Robert Kirk <kirk@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: TV actors who were once in OTR
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On Tue, 27 Aug 96 08:13:10 "Donald A. Tevault" <donnie@[removed]> wrote:

>[...]  But, now that I've discovered OTR as a hobby, I've been 
>surprised to hear a lot of voices that I had previsouly known only from
television.
> Among some of the TV actors I've heard:
>[...]

I often heard a voice doing commercial narrations on television several
years ago
who  sounded exactly like the fellow who played Pepper Young on the
soap "Pepper Young's Family"  in the mid 40's. A sandy, distinctive kind of
voice.
He seemed to be everywhere in the voice-over world for a while.

Any connection, or is it from left field.

Bob Kirk

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:28:46 -0400
From: CardiacRx@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: New Shadow Collection?
Message-ID: <960828102845_511529084@[removed]>

Just received the latest "Wireless" catalog, which benefts Mnnesota Public
Radio, and in it is a Shadow collection I have not yet seen.  It is a
5-CD/5-Cassette collection entitled "The Shadow Chronicles" and features 8
"never-before-available" episodes, a 1 hour audio history by Mr. Tollin and a
56 page book.  Judging from the few titles listed (The Isle of Fear, Death
Rides a Broomstick, The Destroyer) I don't believe it is a repackaging of the
Shadow Collection Box set from a few years ago, although I would suspect some
of the audio history might be the same.  As I don't want to be a commercial
for this catalog (I don't even live in Minnesota) I'll leave it up to anyone
interested to e-mail me and I'll be happy to give you info on purchasing,
etc,.

Bob Simko (CardiacRx@[removed])

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:35:27 -0400
From: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Issue 300
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Could someone please email me a copy of digest issue #300. I never received
it. Thanks.

Tom

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:01:08 PST
From: jonesjm@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Doesn't Strain Your Eyes
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I'd like to make the case that OTR was possibly on hiatus and is ready to
make a comeback.  Sure TV was a wonderful new thing, ditto computers.
However, in today's hectic world (and especially if you look at a computer
screen much of the day), you come home and you're bushed.  One hundred
channels abd there's nothing worth watching on TV - you've seen it all.
You read the paper, read your book, etc.  Your eyes are tired; you're tired.
What I wouldn't give to go to bed 10:00ish and listen to radio.  Witness
how popular "talk radio" is.  I don't like talk radio, I like programs.
They could have new ones even for the 90s.  Do you like to wind down before
bed, maybe read a detective novel?  Maybe it's time for radio programs to
make a comeback, both OTR and new, because my eyes are tired.  This is an
entrepreneurial thing waiting to happen and I believe the time is right!

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:58:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Barbara Kliene <seabird@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Atmospheric Problems?
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Re:  a trip to Mars, I'd take every single Morse program I could cram in.  I
Love a Mystery, I Love Adventure, in its various incarnations, One Man's
Family-- Never tire of them.

However, while we're packing our preferred cassettes, we might also want to
pack a big ole bag of Earth air, as it is my understanding that the Mars
atmosphere is too thin to support sound waves--

On another subject, I have received the Fall issue of Wireless which
advertises "a collector's edition featuring eight original,
never-before-available radio broadcasts" (of The Shadow.) including "The
Isle of Fear," "Death Rides a Broomstick,"  

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:03:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Barbara Kliene <seabird@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shadow!
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Uh--  Eudora went mad and sent off an incomplete message.

On the subject of "The Shadow, the Wireless catalog advertises eight
never-before-released radio broadcasts, with episodes starring Orson Welles
and Agnes Moorehead, and including "The Isle of Fear," "Death Rides a
Broomstick," and "The Destroyer."

Does anyone have any information on this?  Is it possible that there are
still "never-before-released" episodes of The Shadow?  

Barbara Kliene

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:29:28 -0700
From: alvo@[removed] (Alan Voorhees)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: More OTR on the Internet
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We've just added Mr Keene, Trace of Lost Persons, The Bob Hope Show, and
Grand Central Station to the radio programs you can listen to over the
Internet.

The other selections available are: The Jack Benny Program, Kay Kyser's
Kollege of Musical Knowledge, The Burns and Allen Show, Philo Vance, and
The Jimmy Durante Show.

Requirements are the latest Shockwave plug-in (available free at www.
[removed]), a 68040 Mac/486 PC or better, a [removed] modem or faster
connection. Recommended web browser is Netscape [removed], which fixes a previous
problem that prevented proper stopping of the data stream and would limit
the number of shows one could sample without having to reload the player.

As this is still new technology, we've like to hear of any problems you
might encounter. E-mail to: alvo@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:43:25 -0500
From: vintage@[removed] (Andy Blatt)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: MSchmid@[removed]
Subject: Jean Shepherd
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Max:
The 1970's NJ Public Television program that Jean Shepherd produced and narrated
(seldom ever seen) was called "Shepherd's Pie"...He basically looked at some of
the oddities of New Jersey (such as traffic circles and then the traffic
department's answer to traffic circles - "no left-hand turn")...I believe I
saw the program about 1976-77.  NJPTV might have syndicated it to other PBS
stations.

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:30:58 +0000
From: "George S. Cole" <gscole@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: OTR on TV
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John Dehner appeared on many GUNSMOKE TV episodes as well as the radio 
show.

George S. Cole

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:36:01 -0700
From: Rick_Botti@[removed] (Rick Botti)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: SF Area Radio
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I really enjoy learning about the radio stations of the Golden Age, but 
most of the discussions are about stations based on the east coast (KFI 
excepted). I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and would really enjoy more 
info on stations that were here during the OTR era. Also, is there anywhere 
in this US of A a radio version of TV Guide?

Thanks

Rick   
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:31:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nicholas Kierniesky <kiernies@[removed]>
To: OldTimeRadio <otr@[removed]>
Subject: The demise of OTR:Some reactions to the thread
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     The thread of the past two weeks regarding the demise of OTR in the
1950s was very interesting, and a few observations and opinions make it
hard to for me not to comment.
     An early post suggested that some critics believe that otr was
getting stale, and that contributed to the demise.  I find this hard to
believe, given my ears on '40s and '50s radio.  Gunsmoke, The Stan
Freeburg Show, and others were excellent and better or as good as
many '40s shows. The "power" of TV explains most of the demise.
     Someone argued a "conditioning of senses" from an anthropological
point of view.  In other words, our culture is more visually oriented and
that is why TV began to dominiate. While not denying culture differences
in sensory use, I suspect that the explanation is simpler than this. In
all humans, vision is more salient than audition.  The eyes naturally
dominate over the ears, sometimes to the point of reducing auditory
processing.  With the decreasing price of TV (also reducing the "status"
argument of another comment) radio didn't have a chance!  The eyes
dominate. My argument is not that vision (and TV) is "better".  It is just
naturally more powerful.
     Cultural difference arguments are nevertheless informative.  It is my
impression that otr lasted longer in England and TV is weaker, not
because of the economic issues only, but because the culture is more 
"conversational" and auditory than the good ol' USA.
     One more psychological point.  Even though the eye dominates the ear,
the eye "bores" more easily than the ear.  Many can listen to a song over
and over again, but most people will not watch a music video over and over
again.  In other words, I would predict that, expressed as a percentage of
viewers (listeners), more people save otr shows than videos of favorite
programs.  My argument here unfortunately in confounded by things like
cost, etc.  Nevertheless, it's a thought.
     I would like to argue more about this with anyone attending the FOTR
in Newark.

-Nik
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:13:10 -0700
From: PETER GRECO <pgreco@[removed]>
To: radio digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Lone Ranger
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Hi,  
The answer to Mike's question about the LONE RANGER tv series,the was
Gerald [removed] also played Philip Marlowe on [removed] Dunning's book
TUNE IN YESTERDAY,they say he was the toughest [removed] guess his deep
voice conveyed that [removed] opening was great "Get this and get it
straight,crime is a sucker's road,and those who travel it wind up in the
gutter,the prison,or an early grave".If you haven't heard any of the 
shows give it a listen,they are very well [removed]




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