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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2006 : Issue 226
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Faulty Memories [ "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed] ]
Re: Thinking It Over [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
The Lone Ranger's Orgin [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
Re: your money or your life [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Pete Kely's Blues [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
re: Help for a Gunsmoke episode [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
The Biggest Benny laugh` [ Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed]; ]
This week in radio history 20-26 Aug [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Henry Aldrich [ Briantaves1879@[removed] ]
Richard Diamond episode [ Briantaves1879@[removed] ]
8-20 births/deaths [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
An important anniversary [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
More Awesome Swells! [ Wich2@[removed] ]
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:41:37 -0400
From: "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Faulty Memories
I concur wholeheartedly with what John Mayer asserts regarding faulty
memories. Now, what digest is THIS, again?
Stuart Lubin
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:04:07 -0400
From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Thinking It Over
I think that many more people have heard =of= the routine
than have =heard= the routine. And somehow those all are
convinced that he said, "I'm thinking, I'm thinking."
It likely doesn't help that, for decades afterward, when
asked about the bit, Jack's writers usually told the
story of the genesis of that line (where the writers are
sitting around, completely stumped as to how the routine
should be topped) as them peppering one another with the
question repeatedly, in rapid-fire fashion, before one
breaks under pressure, blurting out the alternate line quoted
above.
Eventually, they reworked that response slightly to fit Jack's
cadence, airing in the "I'm thinking it over" form. But the
other version was likely heard by more people -- particularly
interviewers and media historians, the ones who write the books
-- more times in the intervening years, making a deeper
impression than the original -- which, let's face it, was only
reprised once or twice in broadcast media (major ones, anyway)
after 1948.
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:04:34 -0400
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Lone Ranger's Orgin
After about 70 yeas of having the lone ranger as a hero my eyes have been
open. The lone ranger is deserter. Can he be trusted? When I started to
listen the series was well into its 5th or 6th year. I really never cared
about who he was. Thousands of loyal new listeners started to listen as they
became old enough. There were never repeats so the new listeners never heard
of LR's orgin. I don't think they cared.
Lets be rational, the wise Indian, Tonto, buried the dead Rangers, and made
the extra empty grave, so the Cavendish gang would assume all the Rangers
were killed. This also gave Reid time to recover.
Remember the wise Tonto took things into his own hands, Because Ranger Reid
was wounded and on the brink of death for four days and a long recovery time
ahead. When Reid recovered Tonto told what he had done and told Ranger Reid
"You Lone Ranger " the rest are all dead. Reid did what he to do with his
new life. Put your self in his place.
But remember, most of all, this is fiction, a story. Would anyone of us care
if the episode "The Origin of the Lone Ranger" wasn't around? I nerve heard
the Origin episode until a few yeas ago. So am going to burn up all my Lone
Ranger Tapes, No. Is he still my Hero? Yes. Hi-YO Silver, away for ever and
ever.
Frank McGurn
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:42:15 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: your money or your life
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In a message dated 8/19/06 11:18:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
I think that many more people have heard =of= the routine than have
=heard= the routine. And somehow those all are convinced that he
said, "I'm thinking, I'm thinking." Or perhaps they like the line
better that way.
I've wondered if maybe a radio critic or columnist wrote it up that way ("I'm
thinking, I'm thinking!") back when it happened, and that's how became known
that way. It probably wasn't common back then to so easily record everything
and just reach for the cassette player to hear it again, so the writer perhaps
relied strictly on memory and that's how it came out.
Dixon
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:42:25 -0400
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Pete Kely's Blues
Here is info. on Pete Kelly as I found it on Google.
Pete Kelly's Blues was a movie in 1955 Produced & Directed by Jack Webb
ItStared Andy Devine, Ella Fitzgerald, Peggy Lee, Janet Leigh, Lee Marvin,
Edmond O'Brien & Jack Webb.
In 1959 Pete Kelly became a TV series.
Directed by Jack Webb
Cast (in alphabetical order)
Connee [removed] Savannah Brown
Anthony [removed] Johnny Cassiano
Phil [removed] Fred
William [removed] Pete Kelly
Than [removed] George Lupo
Produced by
Jack [removed] executive producer
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:42:38 -0400
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: re: Help for a Gunsmoke episode
Hello, the only log I've seen which gives episode descriptions, and is very
helpful, is
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so if you have other questions about a date of a show, then try searching
that web site with a keyword or name from that episode and finding the info
that way. You can also search by actor, and find all of the database entries
which have that actor in a show.
Matthew
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:44:52 -0400
From: Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Biggest Benny laugh`
It was mentioned a few OTR Digests ago that the Jack Benny "Your
money or your life" routine got the longest and biggest laugh on his
radio show. Just a note of interest here: That turns out NOT to be
so. I was talking to George Balzer (one of Bennys writerer) and he
said that the biggest laugh on the Benny show was when Mary
Livingston was supposed to say she was gong to have a Swiss cheese
sandwich. Instead, she said "Chiss Sweese sandwich" and it brought
the house down. The audience could not stop laughing. Balzer went on
to tell me that it was so funny the entire writing staff kept milking
the line Chiss Sweese for a good number of other shows aired
afterwards. I have that show and, indeed, it is one of the loudest,
longest and funniest laughs I've ever heard. If you've got a copy of
the show, listen (or re-listen) to it and compare it to the "Your
money or your life" routine. You will see that George Balzer is correct.
Ken Greenwald
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:45:01 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: This week in radio history 20-26 August
From Those Were The Days --
8/22
1947 - After many years as a 15-minute daily serial, Jack Armstrong, the
All-American Boy, was heard for the first time as a 30-minute feature on
ABC. Remember, if you want to grow up to be big and strong like Jack
Armstrong, keep these three rules in mind: Get plenty of sleep, fresh
air and exercise. Make a friend of soap and water, because dirt breeds
germs -- and germs can make people sickly and weak. And for sound
nourishment and keen flavor, eat a big bowlful of Wheaties, the
Breakfast of Champions, with plenty of milk or cream and some type of fruit.
8/23
1923 - Billy Jones and Ernie Hare, The Happiness Boys, were heard on
radio for the first time. The two were billed as radio's first comedians
and were also credited with creating and performing the first singing
commercial.
8/24
1950 - The summer replacement radio show for Suspense, titled Somebody
Knows, was heard for the final time. The program offered a reward of
$5,000 for information that led to the solving of crimes. Somebody Knows
began with the introduction, "You out there. You, who think you have
committed the perfect crime -- that there are no clues, no witnesses --
listen. Somebody knows."
8/25
1949 - NBC debuted Father Knows Best. The Thursday night program aired
for five years. Robert Young played the role of Jim Anderson, the
ever-patient father. The rest of the family included wife Margaret, son
Bud and lovely daughters Betty (the eldest) and Kathy. The family lived
on Maple Street in Springfield.
8/26
1873 -- Lee DeForest was born on this day in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
DeForest seemed to be a born inventor. He held patents for hundreds of
different items including the photoelectric cell and the surgical radio
knife. But none had as much impact on the world as his invention of the
electron tube, specifically the triode, a three element vacuum tube,
which later became the audion tube -- possibly the most significant
invention that made radio possible.
1939 - Arch Oboler's Plays presented the NBC Symphony, for the first
time, as the musical backdrop for the drama, This Lonely Heart.
Joe
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:45:07 -0400
From: Briantaves1879@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Henry Aldrich
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:03:46 -0400
From: "Tom Snyder" <tsnyder@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Aldrich Family
The program The Aldrich Family was both long running and had well known
companies for sponsorship. Yet there seems to be relatively few
episodes in circulation and very little "logging" of episodes. Why is
this?
And a related question, does anyone know if the Henry Aldrich movie series of
the 1940s has been on television recently? I saw them as a kid in the early
1970s, in Los Angeles. I wonder if they are not shown as a result, like so
many
of the other Paramount Bs, of receiving minimal tv distribution since the
1980s, or could there be a rights issue tied in with the radio show's scarcity
mentioned above?
Thanks, Brian Taves
Briantaves1879@[removed]
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:45:15 -0400
From: Briantaves1879@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Richard Diamond episode
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I wonder if anyone knows the title/date of the episode of RICHARD
DIAMOND--PRIVATE DETECTIVE, starring Dick Powell, in which a wealthy, aging
man arranges
for his death at the hands of a mobster, only to regret it and ask for the
detective's assistance. Blake Edwards did another version of the same basic
plot
for PETER GUNN as well.
Curious as it sounds, this plot--wealthy man, bored/tired of life, arranges
to be killed by a criminal so the life insurance will benefit his wife/family,
changes his mind but can't find the criminal, so goes "on the run" to save his
life, is apparently from a Jules Verne 1878 novel, The Tribulations of a
Chinese in China. It was adapted into a play by the DeMIlle brothers early
in the
20th century, and subsequently has been (in many variations) used as plots in
various radio and tv shows.
Thanks, Brian Taves
Briantaves1879@[removed]
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:30:30 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 8-20 births/deaths
August 20th births
08-20-1881 - Edgar Guest - Birmingham, England - d. 8-5-1959
poet: (Poet Laureate of Radio) "Edgar Guest in Welcome Valley"; "It
Can Be Done"
08-20-1905 - Jack Teagarden - Vernon, TX - d. 1-15-1964
trombonist: "Eddie Condon"s Jazz Concert"; "Paul Whiteman Show"
08-20-1907 - Alan Reed (aka Teddy Bergman) - NYC - d. 6-14-1977
actor: Falstaff Openshaw "Fred Allen Show"; Pasquale "Life with Luigi"
08-20-1908 - Al Lopez - Tampa, FL - d. 10-29-2005
baseball hall of fame: "Greatest Sports Thrills"; "Tops In Sports"
08-20-1908 - Andre Baruch - Paris, France - d. 9-15-1991
announcer, disc jockey: "Your Hit Parade"; "Myrt and Marge"
08-20-1911 - Robert Riley Crutcher - Missouri - d. 8-10-1974
writer: "Fabulous Dr. Tweedy"; "Eddie Bracken Show"
08-20-1917 - Catherine McCune - Honolulu, Hawiian Territory
actor: Clara Potts "Scattergood Baines"; "Joe Penner Show"
08-20-1918 - Henry Leff - NYC
actor: Ray Mallard "Candy Matson, YU2-8209"
08-20-1918 - Jacqueline Susann - Philadelphis, PA - d. 9-21-1974
actor: Lola the Cigarette Girl "Morey Amsterdam Show"
08-20-1923 - Jim Reeves - nr. Galloway, Panola County, TX - d. 7-31-1964
country singer: "Jim Reeves Show"; "Grand Old Opry"; "Country Style
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08-20-1929 - Frank Bresee - Los Angeles, CA
actor: Little Beaver "Red Ryder"
08-20-1933 - Ted Donaldson - NYC
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
August 20th deaths
01-16-1901 - Sid Silvers - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-20-1976
actor: Beetle "Phil Baker Show"; "Jack Benny Program"
03-12-1908 - William Lally - New York - d. 8-20-1956
actor: "The NBC University Theatre"
03-16-1916 - Walter Reed - Fort Ward, Bainbridge Island, WA - d.
8-20-2001
actor: "The Bombadier"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
06-16-1912 - Ilona Massey - Budapest, Hungary - d. 8-20-1974
actor: Mata Hari-style operative in World War II "Top Secret";
"Screen Guild Theatre"
11-11-1897 - James Goss - Chicago, IL - d. 8-20-1976
actor: Uncle Jim Fairfield "Jack Armstrong, The All-American Boy"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:09:30 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: An important anniversary
There was a certain amount of publicity a few days ago over the 28th
anniversary of the death of Elvis Presley. There has been much less
notice of a much more important anniversary today: the 28th
anniversary of the death of Groucho Marx. Groucho's death was
overshadowed by Elvis's, three days earlier.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:21:30 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: More Awesome Swells!
From: "Ian Grieve" _austotr@[removed]_
(mailto:austotr@[removed])
Re ... Orson Welles, I do have a BBC Transcription which I
think I have mentioned here before ... It is a Michael Parkinson interview
of Orson Welles. The interview runs for 27 minutes and within it there
are 4
self-contained short [removed]
Dear Ian-
If you did mention this before, I missed it. It sounds fascinating; a little
like a dry run for Bogdanovich's tapes/book.
Can you post this online, or make copies available?
Best,
-Craig
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