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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 414


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	  re: Lone Ranger 
	 Cassette Storage
	 Lonesome Train
	 WBAI's GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO moving in December  
	 FAT MAN disks
	 Midgets?
	 Phil Harris
	 Comedy
	 Re: Fat Man disks
	       Duplication of my Letter!
	 Truespeech again
	 RADIO PROGRAMMING
	 ADMINISTRIVIA: WWW Page logs fixed

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 04:28:59 -0500
From: BCH66@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Lone Ranger 
Message-ID: <951125042857_115868080@[removed]>

I have a LONE RANGER episode from 6-12-1942 that was transcribed ( apparently
for syndication purposes by NBC BLUE ) .
Perhaps some stations that aired the LONE RANGER were not on the live network
? I will have to listen to this program and see if there are some clues .
Also I heard once that the LONE RANGER program was done live
three times a night for East/Midwest/and West. 

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 06:08:53 -0500
From: ESPALMER@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Storage
Message-ID: <951125060852_33344299@[removed]>

An neat trick to storing cassettes in their plastic cases is to buy(merely
the deposit charge) the plastic cases that Pepsi uses to ship pop. You can
fit 68 cassettes nicley for $[removed] They also stack togethor nicley.
I got the idea from a DJ friend who was often faced by storage problems.
ESPalmer@[removed]

PS Great newsletter

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 11:19:35 GMT
From: cj57@[removed] (David Withers)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lonesome Train
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I've just come across some clips of an old musical documentary made in the
[removed] called 'Lonesome Train'. The subject is Lincoln's funeral train, it's
sung by very Hollywood-esque singers and sounds late fifties/early sixties ish.

Other than that I have no information. It was a great influence for the
documentary maker Charles Parker who worked at the BBC in the sixties and
seventies. 

If anybody has any more [removed] or even more importantly, a copy, I'd
love some feedback!

Many thanks from this side of the pond.

***********************
smashie@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 18:46:27 -0800
From: max schmid <mschmid@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: WBAI's GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO moving in December  
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The new time for Golden Age of Radio on WBAI [removed] FM in NYC is 7:30 to
9:00 pm starting December 03, 1995. We mean it this time!
    Mass Backwards continues to air weekly on Tuesday Early AM - 3:30 to 
6 am, featuring the usual noise and Jean Shepard during the last 45 
minutes or so. 
    Requests, comments, hate mail etc can now be sent to my E-mail 
address: mschmid@[removed] 

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 07:51:52 -0700 (MST)
From: Bill Miles <bmiles@[removed]>
To: Oldtime Radio Net <otr@[removed]>
Subject: FAT MAN disks
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I too have wondered what happened to the gentleman who has the FAT MAN 
disks, Randy.  I e-mailed him two days after his posting and have heard 
nothing.  Maybe this was a hoax to check OTR reaction? :-(

"God will look you over not for medals, or diplomas, or degrees, but for 
scars." - (Unknown)

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 09:57:00 -0500
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Midgets?
Message-ID: <951125095700_88554090@[removed]>

The thread on which stars are worthy to be in a special with Jack Benny is
interesting to me as someone who appreciates both OTR and some current tv
(horrors!).

Actually, I think if you compared just sitcom to sitcom, Fraiser compares
quite well to The Jack Benny program.  The characters are more fully written,
none of the plots are lifted from 20-year old radio routines and the
supporting cast is able to sustain a storyline much longer than the
sketch-oriented humor Jack often did on his TV show.

Yes, when you compare Jack's whole career to Kelsey Grammer's, Grammer is
going to suffer badly, but he's three years into his show.  The Benny radio
shows from 1932-1935 aren't considered the classics either.  And the short
films Jack made around that time when he first came to Hollywood (recently
showcased on AMC as was widely noted here) weren't all that funny either.

And for my money, there are very few entertainers EVER you could compare Jack
Benny to who don't look like midgets.  I would include Bob "I'm topical so
laugh even though it's the same joke as last week" Hope in that list.  I
haven't found him funny since I was in the sixth grade (when his career was
still relatively strong through specials).

One thing I say about radio and television is that in comedy, the writing has
gotten a lot worse (with a witty show like Fraiser being the exception and
drab posturing like Murphy Brown being the rule) and in Drama it's gotten a
lot better.

I mean, I love Suspense, I own about 150 episodes.  I'll listen to Mercury
Theatre of the Air all night long.  Arch Obeler, Norman Corwin?  Geniuses.

But by and large, there was never as good a cop show on radio as Homicide is
on television.  Was there a hospital show on radio as good or complex as
Chicago Hope?  Or even ER? Dramas were much more simply written, lacked the
depth and power they bring to the screen now and were far less to true to
life.

There was never (Corwin's triumph on VE day excepted) a radio drama as
powerful as "Indictment," and HBO movie on the McMartin pre-school trial I
watched this morning after listening two a few hours of OTR while I was
making breakfast and tidying up.

By the same token, when you used to be able to turn on the radio and hear
Fred Allen, Jack Benny, Fibber McGee and Molly, Burns & Allen, and the rest
all in a row, and today I can point to maybe two or three TV shows in all
time that were that funny -- you can see that comedy writing is more or less
dead.

Even the comedy shows I enjoy, like Friends and Seinfeld don't measure up,
but they have the advantage of being targeted to my age group and using my
cultural references.  I've had to study pop culture of the 1940s for years to
get most of the jokes and references in OTR.  It's worth it, but it's also a
pain to learn that much about another era for which you have no first-hand
knowledge.

But at least drama has advanced past the days of Gangbusters and Dr. Kildare
or whatever his radio equivalent was.

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 09:36:16 -0800 (PST)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Phil Harris
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

One personal account of Phil Harris came to me from
a bartender turned DJ. This would have taken place sometime in
the 50s. Said bartender was named Odie and got to know Phil
at some venue that he and his band played. They would have some
good laughs together and knew people in common.
Some time later (years) Odie was out with a friend and two
ladies at a club where Phil was playing and he ignored them.
Odie caught up with Phil offstage and in private Phil told him:
"I didn't know if that was your wife or your girlfriend and
as I'd never seen her before I didn't want to put my foot
in it."
So Phil was a sensitive sort of guy or shall I say sensible?

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 13:43:03 
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Comedy
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I'm afraid I must agree with Bruce Rudsill's comments about today's comedy
as compared to the OTR comedy and that of early television.  Case in point,
scan the comedy on the cable networks, one stand-up comedian after another
telling toilet humor that apparently causes their audiences to roll around
the floor laughing. Yet, as I stop off, I find a random item that will 
even arouse a chuckle.  The comedy of the past was seasoned and thoughtout.
I'm afraid we will never see comedians like them again.

Thank heavens for the hobby.

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 15:56:54 -0500
From: JanBach@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Fat Man disks
Message-ID: <951125155652_33644983@[removed]>

Hi to everyone -- and especially to Randy:

I just contacted Chuck Schaden this afternoon and E-Mailed an assistant of
his about the Fat Man tapes. Chuck will learn if this is a hoax or not -- in
the meantime, I really hope it's on the level.

Jan Bach

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Date:          Sat, 25 Nov 1995 16:46:40 5
From: apgar@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       Duplication of my Letter!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I must apoligize for the duplication of my E-Mail about
the REEL-TALK cassette recorder.  Apparently I was 
having some PC problems that day.
 
Ron Apgar

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 14:56:41 -0500
From: Nathan Gregory <ngregory@[removed]>
To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Truespeech again
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Nathan Gregory * [removed] #[removed] ] --

After my previous comments about the DSP Group's Truespeech compression
codec,
some folks asked me where to obtain the Truespeech player for Windows [removed],
and the 
Mac, etc.  Check out [removed], which is part of DSP
Group's 
Web site.  They say a Player for MAC is available Nov. 28, plus other
platforms.
Take a look.

Regards,
Nathan

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:55:51 GMT+0000
From: stewloose@[removed] (Tony Stewart)
To: OTR@[removed]
Subject: RADIO PROGRAMMING
Message-Id: <m0tJUSG-000YZPC@[removed]>

Hi gang!

Let me begin by quickly introducing myself.  I am Tony "Stew" Stewart,
Program Director of WVAW AM 640, Virginia Wesleyan College, Norfolk, VA.  I
am enrolled at Virginia Wesleyan College via a special program in the United
States Navy for active duty personnel.  I am pursuing a bachelor's degree in
Mass Communications.  Prior to my navy pursuits of the last ten years, I was
a professional radio announcer in Kansas.  I also have a previous two year
stinch in college under the same type of degree program.  I also am a
journalist with the Marlin Chronicle, Norfolk, VA.   But enough about me.  

This is a forum for lovers of old time radio and as a fellow appreciator of
those echoes from yesteryear,  I am here for help.  I have found a small
following (by word of mouth) of others like us that enjoy listening to
programs from the golden age of radio.  I would like to air some progams,
but, am reluctant because of potential legal repercussions (if their are
any).   I also have a limited collection on hand.  The ones that I do have
are somewhat of an abstract collage of different shows.  So I could not
program a weekly show of any sort.  I would also like to know more about
current radio dramas that are being produced now.

So if I may some up my questions and call upon all you purveyors of good
taste and nostlagic entertainment to help me out.
1.  Can I broadcast these programs without possible copyright infringement?
2.  If not, how can I go about pursuing this?
3.  How can I get my hands on more shows (preferably in a series) for
programming?
4.  Are there new radio drama programs being produced?  Where?  How can get
a hold of them?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer gang!  I will continue to
monitor this forum.  Oh hey, good job Mr. Pfeiffer.  I am enjoying this
forum.  It is an excellent forum for exchanging ideas.  Please keep up the
good work.


Tony Stewart      alias "STEW"
Program Director
WVAW AM 640
1584 Wesleyan Drive
Norfolk, VA  23502         
++++++++++++++++++++++++
 "There's a STEW loose in the STEWdio" +
++++++++++++++++++++++
    

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:19:42 -0600
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: ADMINISTRIVIA: WWW Page logs fixed
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

My new site is still having a little problem with The Humongous OTR Database
Engine, but I have a temporary workaround for the OTR Logs problem.
Visitors can now click on a "radio button" to select from a large list of
OTR logs, and the log will be displayed in a flash.

Just added a new section:  OTR logos and ads

If something doesn't work, send me a note.  If you have some public-domain
material you wish to contribute, by all means, send me a note!

Stuff at the old site will, like an old soldier, gradually fade away.

Lou
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