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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 305

Table Of Contents: 

	 When more WENN?
	 Shadow Availability
	 San Francisco OTR
	 WGN Yearbooks???
	 Re: Decline of OTR
	 Re: TV Actors on Radio
	 Among my Souvenirs - CBS Hollywood
	 12 cassettes on a trip to Mars & Johnny Dollar
	 Edmond Hamilton Radio Dramas
	 Pepper Young's Family
	 Re: 3 head tape deck for sale
	 The Lone Ranger narrator
	 Trip to Mars
	 12 tapes and What ever happened to

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:14:41 -0700
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Does anyone know when we'll see more (new) 
WENN episodes?

Rick
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:49:42 -0400
From: aa993@[removed] (Christopher L. Tumber)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shadow Availability
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Barbara Kliene asks:

> Does anyone have any information on this?  Is it possible that there are
> still "never-before-released" episodes of The Shadow?  

I have copies of both The Isle of Fear (10/30/38) and The Destroyer (03/25/45).
I suspect Wireless merely means "Never before [removed]" through [removed]

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:53:26 -0400
From: Bigkids@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: San Francisco OTR
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Okay, if you want West Coast OTR, I wonder if you've ever heard of "Candy
Matson." I have just two installments of this show, produced in San Francisco
and carried on the NBC Network in 1950.

Candy was a female private eye, described as having "a figure that starts
where Miss America leaves off," blue eyes and blonde hair. (Nothing about her
detecting skills is mentioned.) In one of the two installments I've heard,
she is invited to preside as "queen" of a dance at the "senior
noncommissioned officers' club" at Fort Ord.

Candy goes out and buys a dress for the occasion, that "has to be held up by
deep breathing and sheer willpower."

She has a collaborator/boyfriend in the SFPD and an apparently gay
photographer pal named Rembrandt.

All the action in the two instalments I've heard takes place either in San
Francisco or at Ford Ord. (For folks unfamiliar with California geography,
Fort Ord is located near Monterey, not very far south of San Francisco.)

This is not a great show, but it's amusing. Apparently written and produced
by the husband of the actress who plays Candy, by the way.

I have a feeling that this was the first ever female PI show on radio. I'm
not counting female sidekicks or partners of male PI's like Pam North or Nora
Charles.  Nuh-uh! Candy was strictly her own boss, took her own risks and
solved her own cases.

A lost feminist heroine, I think!

And, come to think of it, I wonder if Rembrandt is the first "positive" gay
image on radio.

Dick Lupoff

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:05:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kathy O'Connell" <oconnell@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: WGN Yearbooks???
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While visiting family in Warsaw, Indiana last week, I came across a used 
book store that has quite a large stack of WGN Yearbooks for sale.  I'm 
afraid I don't know any of the programmers featured in these 
[removed] that didn't stop me from picking up a couple!  I picked 
up one from 1944 and one from 1952.

Could someone tell me more about the background of these yearbooks?  They 
seem to reference WGN as the farmer's friend.  Any experts on WGN out there?
e-mail privately if you want, or share it with the group.
Kathy O'Connell
WXPN
Philadelphia, PA

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:21:54 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]>
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Subject: Re: Decline of OTR
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Nicholas Kierniesky <kiernies@[removed]> wrote:

>An early post suggested that some critics believe that otr was
>getting stale, and that contributed to the demise.  I find this hard to
>believe, given my ears on '40s and '50s radio.  Gunsmoke, The Stan
>Freeburg Show, and others were excellent and better or as good as
>many '40s shows. The "power" of TV explains most of the demise.

The criticisms I read concerning OTR going stale dealt mainly with the
big prime time comedy shows.  By 1950, many of the biggest had been on
for 10-15 years (or more) and while production values were very slick
after World War II, the writers had been to the well one too many times
and audiences may have grown tired of the same old formulae.

Gunsmoke and Stan Freburg were excellent (I'd add X-1/Dimension X to
this list of great radio from the 50's).  But they came too late in the
game.  TV had already passed radio in audience size in evening prime
time.  Some people in this newsgroup even rumble-rumble-rumble that Stan
Freburg came too late to be really OTR.  

I hesitate to argue with a psychologist.  A few additional points for
the conversation, however.  

Neurolinguist Programming contends different people have different
dominant senses, and this is one factor in shaping personalities ([removed],
some are visual, some auditory, some tactile).  I'm auditory and maybe
that's why I'm drawn to OTR.

Some people do watch favorite TV shows over and over thanks to reruns
(Lucy, The Honeymooners, Nick at Night). And thanks to reruns, people
don't have to save copies of favorite shows (although some do tape and
save -- or get "collector's editions" of favorite shows from outfits
like Columbia House). Some people have favorite movies they have seen
repeatedly (Wizard of Oz, Casablanca, GWTW) thanks to home video.

During the OTR era, people used to look at the radio.  Now people listen
to the radio and do something else -- they don't look at it.  Any ideas
why?  Some people have claimed in the "theater of the mind" people
visualized the picture.  If so, then the visual element was missing in
OTR; like speech was missing in silent films.  Both were technologically
incomplete.

Question:  Do we miss specific shows or the medium itself?

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 19:15:11 -0500
From: bensmanm@[removed] (Marvin R. Bensman)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: TV Actors on Radio
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One of the most compelling voices on so many shows and commercials was and
is Mason Adams. I love listening to his cracking voice. I think he played
Pepper Young.

I was pleasantly surprised to both hear and see him playing the executive
editor (Charlie) of the LA newspaper that employed "Lou Grant."

I think that Mason probably did more voice-over work than even people like
Marvin Miller (who appeared on the TV's "Millionaire," if memory serves).

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 17:18 PDT
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Among my Souvenirs - CBS Hollywood
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Among my souvenirs:  a clipping from May 2, 1944 Variety, Coast RAdio
Reviews Column: 

"LADY OF THE PRESS".  With Janet Waldo, Howard Culver, Eddie Marr, Jay
Novello; producer Gordon Hughes; scripter, Dwight Houser; announcer, Dick
Cutting; sponsor Miles (Alka-Seltzer and vitamins); agency, Wade; KNX and
Columbia Pacific network (7); Monday through Friday, 4 [removed], 15 minutes.

"...First episode got right down to business after the characters were
established and promises copious thrill and heart throb along Columbia's
coastal right of way for those who partake vicariously of the adventures of
fourth estaters.

"...in the role of the sleuthing sobbie is Janet Waldo, one of the busiest
young ladies in radio and well equipped for the dramatics that will keep her
hopping. 

"This marks the first time buy on CBS by Miles Laboratories, one of radio's
top [removed]"

(This is a long article - I have only quoted a portion of it.)

Lois Culver

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:35:38 +0000
From: "George S. Cole" <gscole@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 12 cassettes on a trip to Mars & Johnny Dollar
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"Must here" shows that I would take on a trip to mars include 
SUSPENSE, THE WHISTLER, LUX RADIO THEATER, SAM SPADE, THE SHADOW, 
MARCH OF TIME, PHILIP MARLOWE, CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER, JOHNNY 
DOLLAR (5-PART SERIAL), RADIO CITY PLAYHOUSE, GUNSMOKE, CAPE COD 
MYSTERY THEATER, JACK BENNY, FRED ALLEN, DUFFY'S TAVERN, DRAGNET, WAR 
OF THE WORLDS, & ON A NOTE OF TRIUMPH by Corwin.

On another topic, I have really enjoyed the 5-part Johnny Dollar 
serials, starring Bob Baily.  A great combination of mystery and 
drama, I consider this one of the finest OTR programs. It certainly 
was a lot better than the 30-minute Johnny Dollars, no matter who 
played the lead. And the 30-minute Johnny Dollars were quite good 
themselves.  Any thoughts or comments?

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:39:44 -0700
From: rgombert@[removed] (Richard Gombert)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Edmond Hamilton Radio Dramas
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Dear Sirs,

In the 1930's Mr Hamilton had several stories adapted for radio. 
According to some correspondence some where actualy recorded. I do not 
know if they were ever broadcast. Do you have a database I might 
peruse?

The letters were not to specific on what stories, but I will try and 
come up with suspect titles (not that they would've used the same 
title).

Any other avenues I might try.

Oh, and how can I order the Smithsonians oldtime SF radio collection?

Rich

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:03:47 -0400
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Pepper Young's Family
Message-ID: <199608282104_MC1-916-66C7@[removed]>

Bob Kirk said:
>I often heard a voice doing commercial narrations on television several
>years ago who  sounded exactly like the fellow who played Pepper Young on
the
>soap "Pepper Young's Family"  in the mid 40's. A sandy, distinctive kind
of
>voice.

Good ear, Bob.  The voice belongs to Mason Adams who was Pepper Young --
also  Harry, the Hack on BIG TOWN and numerous roles on DIMENSION X and X
MINUS 1, GANGBUSTERS, and several soaps.   On TV,  Mason is probably best
remembered as Executive Editor Charlie Hume, LOU GRANT's boss.

Alan Chapman

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:48:01 4
From: "edcarr" <edcarr@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: 3 head tape deck for sale
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

anyone interested in a 3 head
tape deck? cost $150 + shipping
akai g8 hours on it maybe 150
reason for selling,i'am just not
happy with it,i had it repaired
just recently,the fellow who
fixed is on line here so i'am
not hideing anything,and anyone
who knows me knows i wouldn't
sell junk.
besides i'am about to buy 2 to 3
new ones
will deliver to the convention
in oct. email me not newsletter
                     edcarr@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:34:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger narrator
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> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 08:13:02 -0400
> From: Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]>
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: Re:  TV Lone Ranger
> 
> Sorry, Alan there WAS another narrator.  Originally, he did the opening
> narration ("A firey [removed]") and plot narration in specific episodes. 
> At some point, Fred Foy's voice was used for the opening, and plot
> narration within the story-line was dropped (a narrator on TV show is
> not really that necessary).  When the program ceased production and went
> into syndicated re-runs, Fred Foy's voice was used for the opening on
> all episodes (including the earlier ones).  But within the episode, you
> can still hear the voice of the original (uncredited) narrator. 
...

> Now, regarding the TV narrator:  Who was that man?

I remember at one time watching the LR in the early 60s and thinking that
the narrator's voice sounded just like Win Elliott, who was at that time
the host of a daytime quiz show called "On Your Account."  I can't be sure
he was the guy, but it sure sounded like him.

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15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:38:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Trip to Mars
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I think I'd take with me the Jack Benny episode, "I Flew to Mars," in
which Jack falls asleep reading a science fiction story and imagines
himself as Commander Buzz Corry of Space Patrol, flying to Mars.  And I'd
like to find out whether Dennis Day really =is= the leader of the
Martians.

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: 28 Aug 1996 23:17:14 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: 12 tapes and What ever happened to
Message-Id: <m0uvyVx-000YjsC@[removed]>

Well, let's see.
If I had to take only 12 cassettes to Marswith me I also, as someone
else said previously, take episodes of my favorite programs that I
hadn't heard before.
How about a tape of Frontier Gentleman, a Jack Benny tape, a Suspense
tape, a Philip Marlowe tape, an Amos and Andy tape, X minus 1, The Lux
version of "To Have and Have Not", Gunsmoke, superman, Buck Rogersand an
I love a Mystery. That ought to do it.
New subject does anyone have any info on Alan Reed? I know he played
many roles on radio and did the voice for Fred on my favorite cartoon show, the
Flintstones, but what happened after that?
Bill Scherer




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