Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #49
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Date: 2/15/2006 5:38 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 49
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      2-15 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      January 2006 Deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      The Shadow Editoralizes               [ Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@earthlin ]
      The Shadow and the Sniper             [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
      Re: The Rochester Show                [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
      Re:Lone Ranger                        [ "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed]; ]
      Private Life of Rochester Show        [ "Larry Siskind" <lasisk@[removed] ]
      The Lone Ranger's disguise            [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Follow-Up Thoughts                    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      A hobby assessment                    [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Speaking of Theater 5                 [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
      WJRZ                                  [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
      Little Black Hole Radio Script        [ Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed] ]
      post lone ranger career of Fred Foy   [ jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:08:20 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  2-15 births/deaths

    February 15th births

    02-15-1882 - John Barrymore - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-29-1942
    actor: (The Great Profile) "Streamlined Shakespeare"; "Rudy Vallee Show"
    02-15-1883 - Sax Rohmer - London, England - d. 6-1-1959
    writer: "Fu Manchu detective novels
    02-15-1893 - Walter Donaldson - New York, NY - d. 7-15-1947
    songwriter: "Fitch Bandwagon"
    02-15-1896 - Arthur Shields - d. 4-27-1970
    actor: (Brother of Barry Fitzgerald) "Cavalcade of America"
    02-15-1899 - Gale Sondergaard - Litchfield, MN - d. 8-14-1985
    actress: "Columbia Presents Corwin"
    02-15-1905 - Harold Arlen - Buffalo, NY - d. 4-23-1986
    composer: "Songs By Arlen"; "Kraft Program"; "Good New of 1940"
    02-15-1907 - Cesar Romero - New York, NY - d. 1-1-1994
    actor: "Movietone Radio Theatre"
    02-15-1908 - Hartzell Spence - Clarion, IA - d. 5-9-2001
    writer: "Cavalcade of America"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    02-15-1908 - Hugh Wedlock, Jr. - d. 12-13-1993
    writer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Lum and Abner"; "That's My Pop"
    02-15-1908 - William Janney - New York, NY - d. 12-22-1992
    actor: Gary Haven "We are Always Young"; Howie Wing "Howie Wing"
    02-15-1910 - Vladimir Selinsky - Kiev, Russia - d. 9-6-1984
    music: "The Doctor Fights"; "The FBI in Peace and War"; "The Electric
    Theatre"
    02-15-1912 - Howard Harris - d. 3-22-1986
    writer: "Abbott and Costello Show"; "Amazing Mr. Smith"; "Mr. and
    Mrs. North"
    02-15-1914 - Kevin McCarthy - Seattle, WA
    actor: Richard Lawless "Richard Lawless"; Sherlock Holmes "CBS Radio
    Mystery Theatre"
    02-15-1914 - Roland Kibbee - Monongahela, PA - d. 8-5-1984
    writer: "The Fred Allen Show"
    02-15-1916 - Mary Jane Croft - Muncie, IN - d. 8-24-1999
    actress: Sandra Martin "Story of Sandra Martin"; Alice Henderson
    "Beulah"
    02-15-1919 - Frank Behrens - Sheboygan, WI - d. 12-15-1986
    actor: Billie "Billie the Brownie"; Jack Armstrong "Jack Armstrong"
    02-15-1923 - Keene Curtis - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 10-13-2002
    actor: NPR Playhouse "Star Wars"
    02-15-1924 - Kingsley Colton - New York, NY
    actor: Buddy Watson "My Son and I"; Hancey Nielsen "Prairie Folks"
    02-15-1930 - Mary Lee Robb - Chicago, IL
    actress: Marjorie Forrester "Great Gildersleeve"
    02-15-1931 - Claire Bloom - London, England
    actress: "Kaleidoscope"

    February 15th deaths

    01-16-1909 - Ethel Merman - Astoria, NY - d. 2-15-1984
    singer" "Ethel Merman Show"; "Home Front Matinee"
    02-03-1915 - Helen Hall - d. 2-15-1984
    hostess: "One Woman's New York"
    02-05-1918 - Tim Holt - Beverly Hills, CA - d. 2-15-1973
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    02-25-1921 - Patricia Ryan - London, England - d. 2-15-1949
    actress: Amy March "Little Women"; Claudia Naughton "Claudia and David"
    03-13-1905 - Louis Roen - d. 2-15-1993
    announcer: "Today's Children"; "The Breakfast Club"
    03-17-1919 - Nat "King" Cole - Montgomery, AL - d. 2-15-1965
    singer: "King Cole Trio Time"
    03-27-1906 - Pee Wee Russell - Maple Wood, MO - d. 2-15-1969
    clarinet: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
    04-08-1905 - Ilka Chase - New York, NY - d. 2-15-1978
    panelist, hostess, actress: "Leave It to the Girls"; "Luncheon at the
    Waldorf"
    04-10-1827 - Lew Wallace - Brookville, IN - d. 2-15-1905
    author: (Ben Hur) "Favorite Story"; "Hallmark Playhouse"
    05-12-1914 - Howard K. Smith - Ferriday, LA - d. 2-15-2002
    newsman: "World News Today"; "News Roundup"; "Howard K. Smith News"
    06-07-1908 - Boris Goldovsky - Moscow, Russia - d. 2-15-2001
    commentator: "Metropolitan Opera"
    06-22-1901 - Jack Whiting - Philadelphia, PA - d. 2-15-1961
    singer: "MGM Radio Club"
    07-07-1888 - John Frank - Missouri - d. 2-15-1961
    actor: Jimmie Allen "Air Advs. of Jimmie Allen"
    07-08-1912 - Donna Dameral - Chicago, IL - d. 2-15-1941
    actress: Marge Mintere "Myrt and Marge"
    07-30-1912 - Charles Irving - Minnesota - d. 2-15-1981
    actor: Tex Mason "Bobby Benson's Advs."; Jerry Malone "Young Dr. Malone"
    09-03-1922 - Burt Kennedy - Muskegon MI - d. 2-15-2001
    writer: Wrote for radio in late 1940s
    09-28-1914 - Lou Derman - d. 2-15-1976
    writer: "Life with Luigi"
    10-15-1917 - Jan Miner - Boston, MA - d. 2-15-2004
    actress: Ann Williams "Casey, Crime Photographer"; "Lora Lawton "Lora
    Lawton"
    12-06-1924 - Wally Cox - Detroit, MI - d. 2-15-1973
    comedian: "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Wally Cox Show"

    Ron Sayles
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:08:31 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  January 2006 Deaths

    11-29-1917 - George Walsh - Cleveland, OH - d. 1-5-2006
    announcer: "Gunsmoke"; "Music 'Til Dawn"
    12-01-1933 - Lou Rawls - Chicago, IL - d. 1-6-2006
    singer: "Here's to Veterans"
    08-22-1922 - Shelley Winters - St. Louis, MO - d. 1-14-2006
    actress: "Hollywood Star Preview"
    10-20-1914 - Fayard Nicholas - Mobile, AL - d. 1-24-2006
    dancer: (The Nicholas Brothers) "Big Broadcast of 1936"; "Ben Bernie
    Show"
    01-17-1926 - Moira Shearer - Dunfermine, Scotland - d. 1-31-2006
    worked briefly as a radio announcer in the 1980s

    Ron Sayles
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:12:00 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:46:01 -0500
    From: Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Shadow Editoralizes

    on 2/14/06 10:08 PM, George Kelly asked:

>     In a recent episode of The Shadow on XM, a criminal while awaiting
>     execution asked his brother, who was trained as a sniper in the army
>     and who emerged from WWII shell shocked, to assassinate those
>     responsible for his conviction.

    <SNIP>

>     Was such asides by the Shadow common on this program and was the
>     concern expressed by the Shadow an issue following the war?

    THE SHADOW series occasionally editorialized, usually against crime
    though sometimes about other social issues.  This particular episode
    starred Orson Welles and originally aired in 1938, so it actually aired
    before the United States entered the second World War. --Anthony Tollin

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:46:54 -0500
    From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Shadow and the Sniper

    George Kelly wrote:

>     In a recent episode of The Shadow on XM, a criminal while awaiting
>     execution asked his brother, who was trained as a sniper in the army
>     and who emerged from WWII shell shocked, to assassinate those
>     responsible for his conviction.

    Actually, the sniper was a World War I veteran. The
    show, entitled, "Silent Avenger", was broadcast on
    March 13, 1938, and starred Orson Welles as the
    Shadow. World War II didn't begin until the following
    year.

    As to whether the Shadow would editorialize about
    various shortcomings of society, the answer is yes, he
    would, from time to time. And in this case, he's
    right. The man was taught to kill in the Army, but no
    one thought to help him obtain useful civilian skills.

    This doesn't mean that had the character lived, he
    should have received a small fine and a slap on the
    wrist. Nor does it mean that he should have been
    absolved of any and all blame. Had he lived and gone
    to trial, he should have received life in prison. But
    it does mean that training people to kill, but not
    subsequently helping them re-assimilate into a culture
    where killing is generally frowned upon, is going to
    lead to trouble.

    What's particularly interesting about Welles' Shadow
    is  how _unforgiving_ he can be, compared to either
    the Bill Johnstone or Brett Morrison Shadows. If
    someone is forced or tricked into working for the bad
    guy, and he or she runs afoul of Welles' Shadow, the
    poor sap is pretty much screwed. Depending on the
    circumstances, Johnstone or Morrison might cut the guy
    or gal a break.

    I should clarify that I'm not saying Welles' Shadow
    _never_ showed mercy, pity or sympathy for someone who
    got himself into a bad situation, just that it seems
    he less often showed such sympathy than the Johnstone
    or Morrison Shadows.

    Presumably this harsher, "no mercy" attitude of the
    early shows is due in large part because the pulp
    version of the character (though different from the
    radio version in many ways) was also not one to show
    much mercy to those who went afoul of the law.

    Rick

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:47:30 -0500
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: The Rochester Show

    Hello, there were four programs: two called The Private Life Of Rochester
    Van Jones, and two called The Rochester Show. These were all auditioned, but
    never produced for a running series.

    2-15-50: Actor Auditions for The Rochester Show
    2-18-50: two shows, both called The Rochester Show
    5-12-50: two shows, both called The Private Life Of Rochester Van Jones

    Also, there was an audition for the Kitzel show, dated 12-27-50, but that
    never took off. I hope this info has helped you.
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:47:48 -0500
    From: "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re:Lone Ranger
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    Bethany:
         Most of the Lone Ranger episodes I have heard in recent months come from
    XM Satellite airings of the program.  The episodes airing are from the 1950's.
    As far as a disguise, I can only refer to the TV series, when Clayton Moore's
    or John Hart's LR went into town disguised, It was almost always as a grizzled
    old [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:48:05 -0500
    From: "Larry Siskind" <lasisk@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Private Life of Rochester Show

    Jim Murtaugh asked about the Rochester show. What is available is
    strictly audition. When new programs were created , audition
    discs were made in the hope of selling the show to a sponsor.
    Hoped for sponsors were sometimes included in the audition. This
    may explain the reference to Franco-American spaghetti. "The
    Private Life of Rochester"  never made it to radio.  Too bad, it
    would have been a great show.

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:48:50 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger's disguise

>     Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:26:26 -0500
>     From: Bethany Rutledge <bsr_mmr@[removed];

>     What kind of disguise does the Lone Ranger use when he's "in town"?
>     Does he wear a beard? A mustache? At first I thought he must be
>     made up or something, but he remarked in a recent episode that he
>     was "taking his disguise off" after leaving town. Any ideas?

    I guess they didn't describe it much on the radio show, but in the
    comics and TV show, the LR usually used a beard, presumably since
    that hid his face as well as a mask, in case Butch Cavendish happened
    along and might recognize him.

    On the other hand, in one episode, where the LR joined the Ace
    Lattimer gang, he was recognized by a Federal agent who knew him in
    the Texas Rangers 'way back when, so perhaps that time he chanced not
    using any fake facial hair.  Most of the LR's disguises were pretty
    short-term things, just for a few hours, but if he was joining an
    outlaw gang and living with these guys, there might not be all that
    much privacy, and there would be too much danger of fake facial hair
    being discovered.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:09:30 -0500
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Follow-Up Thoughts
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    "Theater Five":

    "Irene Heinstein" IreneTH@[removed] concluded her posting about
    "Theater Five":

>     A few of the actors who appeared on 'Theater Five' are:  Elaine May, Arlene
>     Francis, Mel Allen, Martha Scott, Bethel Leslie, Martin Gabel, Mildred
>     Dunnock, Joan Lovejoy, Wendy Barrie, Eileen Heckart, David Burns, Sammy
>     Davis Jr. (who is quoted as saying 'I like to do radio - it's color blind')
>     These names appeared in columns by Gould in the NY Times and Wolters in the

    Closer to home, I'd like to add the names of some other New York-based actors
    who appeared on the show:
    Arthur Anderson, Larry Robinson, Donald Buka, the late Gilbert Mack, Teri
    Keane, Rosemary Rice, Elliott "Ted" Reid,
    Jeff David, the late Jackson Beck, Cliff Carpenter, the show's announcer Fred
    Foy, and the "Speed Racer" voice triumvirate: Peter Fernandez, Corinne Orr,
    and Jack Grimes. What do all these folks have in common? They've all been
    invited guests at FOTR conventions in New Jersey at one time or another.
    Up-and-coming stars who put in time at "T-5" include Alan Alda and Yaphet
    Kotto.

    WJSV Broadcasting Day:

    Like most folks here on the Digest, I'm grateful that somebody had the
    foresight to take on such an ambitious exercise in preserving one radio
    station's entire broadcast day back in 1939--despite the tedium of some that
    day's programming. However,
    it's hard to believe that nobody else--as far as I know--attempted to
    replicate this concept over the past 60 + years. Does anybody know of any
    other similarly preserved broadcast days?

    I remember back in the mid-1980s, there were concerted efforts to dispatch
    photographers all around this country in order to chronical a typical American
    day. The result was a picture book called "A Day in the Life of
    America"--which spawned many off-shoots and knock-offs.  Did anybody ever try
    this concept by putting together a "day in the life of American radio," which
    could potentially bring together samples of radio programming from diverse
    parts of the country?  Judging by the way the satellite-radio folks keep
    telling us that "terrestrial radio" is doomed, this might be a worthwhile
    project for somebody to assemble in the event those satelliters are right.

    "The Shadow" editorializes:

    George Kelly gkelly1@[removed] posted:

>     In a recent episode of The Shadow on XM, a criminal while awaiting
>     execution asked his brother, who was trained as a sniper in the army
>     and who emerged from WWII shell shocked, to assassinate those
>     responsible for his conviction.

>     The brother kills several before the Shadow can stop him.  Twice
>     during the show The Shadow expressed empathy for the assassin because
>     he was trained as a killer in the army and not properly assimilated
>     back into society.

>     Was such asides by the Shadow common on this program and was the
>     concern expressed by the Shadow an issue following the war?

    There is a late-1930s episode in which Lamont and Margot are visiting Haiti.
    Cutting to the quick: the voodoo practioneers kidnap Margot and before they
    can off her up as a human sacrifice, The Shadow uses his power to cloud men's
    minds to convince the
    voodooiennes to give up their pagan ways and come into town to embrace "the
    true Church."

    Personally, I'm not particularly fond of animistic practices that involve
    human or animal sacrifice, but in this day and age of political correctness, a
    show which equates Christianity as being the "true religion" would never fly
    by network standards and practices.

    This particular episode is on one of the Great American Audio boxed-sets put
    together by the Digest's own Anthony Tollin, the world's leading authority,
    collector, and archivist of "Cranston-iana." I hope this posting prompts him
    to comment on said episode. Either that and/or how the term "Cranston-iana"
    isn't particularly legit because "The Shadow's" true identity  is some other
    guy & then that whole can o' worms about how the Shadow was only  "borrowing"
    Lamont Cranston's identity, etc.

    That's about the size of it.

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:10:16 -0500
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  A hobby assessment

    Martin Grams Jr. writes:

>     The hobby of OTR is made up (in my opinion) of four factors.

>     1.  Periodicals (magazine and newsletters)
>     2.  OTR Clubs with monthly meetings
>     3.  Dealers who sell and collectors who collect
>     4.  Annual Conventions

>     If any of these four factions suffer, so does the hobby.  If Cincy is no
>     more, a big part of the hobby goes away.

    I have never seen our hobby more responsibly summarized anywhere at any time
    by
    anybody.  This perceptive young man has his finger on the pulse of the
    components that provide the "fellowship" (a 5th factor?) we enjoy.

    He's right, in my estimation:  if any part of the above begins to erode, the
    reverberations will be widespread and affect whatever's left.

    The camaraderie evident in Cincinnati is worth a great deal.  I'm sure many
    suggestions will be proffered on this forum for "fixing" the prospect of no
    such
    future events.  I trust cool heads will prevail and a workable solution found
    to
    preserve what has been a worthy effort and sacrifice the Bobs have made for
    two
    decades.  Grams is right -- we'd be losing a whole lot that binds us together
    if
    we lose this permanently.  Think SPERDVAC here, folks.  We really don't want
    to
    see that sad case repeated any time soon.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:10:33 -0500
    From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
    To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Speaking of Theater 5

    Hopefully I won't get in trouble with the List master for this one.  <grinn
    I was doing a search for Theater 5 on the trusty WWW to try and purchase some
    in MP3.  I didn't come up with any.  Anyone who knows of anyone carrying
    this series could write me offlist and i'd appreciate it.
    I used to listen to it when I was in grade school and all this talk made me
    think I should try and track some of the episodes down.
    I loved it at the time.  It was carried on our local University radio station.
    Bill

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:11:18 -0500
    From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WJRZ

    WJRZ was NOT a small station. I believe it was 5000 watts.

    Previously it was WAAT (AM and FM), the radio sisters of WATV, Channel 13,
    Newark NJ.

    As WAAT it was the longtime home of pioneer country music deejay Don Larkin
    and the "Hometown Frolic" show.

    Both the AM and the FM covered all of Metropolitan New York including
    evenings.

    BILL KNOWLTON

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:11:57 -0500
    From: Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed];
    To: OTRDIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Little Black Hole Radio Script
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    Is this the kind of question that could be answered in the Siegel's new book,
    _A Researcher's Guide to the Golden Age of Radio_?

    I need help finding a radio script  called "The little black hole" by
    Allan Gosling.  It was produced by the BBC and once aired on WHA
    Wisconsin public radio.

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    Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:12:38 -0500
    From: jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  post lone ranger career of Fred Foy from Jim
     Taylor
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    Dear Old Time Radio Digest Readers:

      Many thanks for answering some of my questions about
      Theater Five.  Listening to this program brings up another question about
    the post Lone Ranger career of Fred Foy?

      While working at A B C in New York, Mr. Foy narrated a program titled
    "voices in the Headlines."

      The program aired from 1961 through 1967, it was a portrait in sound of the
    week's news.  The program was done in March of Time stile.  Only the actual
    voices of the weeks news makers  were heard.
      This program was the one that got me interested in current events in the
    early 1960s mostly because of Fred Foy's  narration.

      Do any digest members have recordings of this program?  Are  their an
    reviews of this program written in the press at the time?

      If so please advise.

      Many Thanks

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