Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #333
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Date: 9/5/2003 10:17 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 333
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  OTR vendor sales                      [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  CDR life                              [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
  Lone Ranger episode count             [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
  Re: Guildersleeve trivia              [ "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed]. ]
  Gildy on film                         [ Jandpgardner@[removed] ]
  commercial CD life and digital data   [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  CLAYTON MOORE                         [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  Re: Gildersleeve Movie Trivia         [ Wboenig@[removed] ]
  9-5 Births/Deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Radio Spirits declining sales         [ "Cancilla Dominick" <[removed]@buc ]
  WRW, or is not?                       [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
  Museum of Television and Radio Want   [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  Clayton Moore                         [ "aaltounian" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  Re: CD life expectancy                [ "Maureen O'Brien" <mobrien@[removed] ]
  Walden Hughes schedule                [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
  Television mentioned in 1937 on Jack  [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:17:56 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR vendor sales

Jim Widner writes about Radio Spirits & overall sales of OTR tapes, etc.:

Despite their high market presence, I suspect
they are no different from even our friendly vendors. It is simply that the
Internet and the free mp3's floating around make it very tough to sell in
such an environment.

The current economy probably has an impact on sales, too. There's not as
much "discretionary income" available to buy OTR tapes and discs as there
was a few years ago.

Herb Harrison

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:30:56 -0400
From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  CDR life

I did my own CDR experiment, very unscientific, take it for what you feel it
is worth.

I had several old CD-Rs (CD-ROMs) of out dated material, I tossed them into
the yard and forgot about them. Several weeks later as I mowed, I found
them - recorded side up and only partly covered by leaves. Rather than mow
over them and risk the shrapnel that would result, I picked them up. Later,
as I lark, I tried to read them, and they read fine. Of course, the data
that you don't need anymore will survive just fine, it's the valuable ones
that will probably fail.

Joe Salerno

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:14:36 -0400
From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lone Ranger episode count

Yes, September 3 marks the anniversary in 1954 of the final live broadcast
of The Lone Ranger from WXYZ in Detroit.  However, the transcription episode
number of that broadcast was 2596, not 2956.  The total number of broadcasts
logged, according to Terry Salomonson's log, was 3377.  These include the
episodes from the program's inception in 1933 to the time transcriptions
were first made, in January, 1938.

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:04:17 -0400
From: "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Guildersleeve trivia

The Victor Mature/Lucille Ball flick in which Harold Perry plays Guildy is
Seven Days' Leave (1942), Directed by Tim Whelan and Written by William
Bowers and Kenneth Earl. Ralph Edwards, Les Brown and Freddy Martin play
themselves, and Peter Lind Hayes and Arnold Stang have supporting roles

Joe Cline ([removed]@[removed])
Charlotte

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:06:43 -0400
From: Jandpgardner@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Gildy on film
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Steve Salaba is quite right, Harold Peary did appear as 'The Great
Gildersleeve' in a film with Lucille Ball and Victor Mature. It did include a
broadcast
of 'Truth or Consequences' and he nearly got the title right with 'Seven Day
Pass'.  The correct title however is 'Seven Days Leave' made by RKO in 1942
and
also featuring Ginny Sims and choreographed by Charles Walters. This was
Walters' first film work and he would of course soon become one of MGM's top
musical directors. I have a copy of the film on videotape from a showing on
BBC a
few years ago.
John Gardner

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:03:21 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  commercial CD life and digital data

Prof Biel writes:

Just remember, when the CD was introduced, Philips advertised it as:
P E R F E C T   S O U N D   F O R E V E R  ! ! !

They lied.

Perhaps.  But they were referring to commercial CD's. Some of these use an
aluminum recording layer that's photo-etched at the factory.  Others have
their polycarbonate layer molded just like a vinyl recording and then the
reflective aluminum layer is vacuum-flashed on.  A heavy lacquer layer is
applied over the aluminum and then printed with the label information.  So
it's the label side of the CD that must be protected.

I believe that there hasn't been much question about the longevity of
commercial CD's (yet).

Note that on CD's, the reflective layer is not sandwiched between two
transparent polycarbonate layers.  Only DVD's are constructed in this
manner.

I suppose that if someone wished to make a contribution to the archiving
business, they'd figure out a way to salvage the data from a damaged CD or
CD-R or DVD.  I don't know of any commercial software product that will do
this, but I do know that there's a large body of knowledge devoted to
retrieving corrupted digital data.  It's been done for some years now,
though perhaps the most widely known example is the recovery of data
transmissions from the end of the flight of the space shuttle Columbia.

Mark Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
[removed]~mkinsler1

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:03:46 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CLAYTON MOORE

Yes, he did wear sunglasses.  In 1965 he moved his family to Minneapolis
so his children could grow up with their cousins, etc.
He and his brother created Ranger Realty.  Well, at the time, my wife and
I were looking for a house, so I called Clayton, and made an appointment
to look at some houses.  He drove up in a Sierra Gold Cadillac, sporting
those sunglasses.  During the conversation, which was mostly show-biz [I
was on the air for WLOL] he asked me, "Why do you think they made me wear
masks in those early Republic serials I appeared in?"  Took off his
sunglasses, and said, "Is this such an ugly face?"  Well, we all had a
good laugh.  Even funnier--after experiencing just one Minnesota winter,
Clayton took his family BACK to sunny California.

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:04:42 -0400
From: Wboenig@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Gildersleeve Movie Trivia

 Steve Salaba writes:

I seem to recall a movie called "Weekend Pass" or "7 Day Pass" where Gildy
appeared as a supporting character. The flick also starred Victor Mature
and Lucille Ball and a scene took place at a broadcast of radio's "Truth or
Consequences". I'nm sure the more knowledgeable among you
will remember the correct title:)

The movie was called "Seven Days Leave" (1942), and, in an odd bit of
characterization, Peary played an ATTORNEY (!) named Throckmorton P.
Gildersleeve.  I have this one on tape, but it's been a long time since I
watched it.  However, I do remember a very impressive performance by a
16-year-old Marcy McGuire, who played the younger sister of Lucille Ball's
character.

Wayne Boenig

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:06:34 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  9-5 Births/Deaths

September 5th births

09-05-1895 - Craig Earl - Great Barrington, MA - d. 8-1985
quizmaster: "Professor Quiz"
09-05-1907 - Jimmy Wallington - Rochester, NY - d. 12-22-1972
announcer: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Texaco Town/Star Theatre"; "Alan Young
Show"
09-05-1910 - Kenny Delmar - Boston, MA - d. 7-14-1984
actor: Beauregard Claghorn "Fred Allen Show"; Commissioner Weston "The Shadow"
09-05-1934 - Carol Lawrence - Melrose Park, IL
singner: "New Faces of 1948"

September 5th deaths

08-06-1922 - Jackie Kelk - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-2002
actor: Jimmy Olsen "Advs. of Superman"; Homer Brown "Aldrich Family"
09-16-1914 - Allen Funt - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-1999
host: "Candid Microphone"
12-24-1910 - Mitchell Ayres - Milwaukee, WI (R:  NYC) - d. 9-5-1969
bandleader: "The Dunninger Show"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Jay Jostyn

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:07:25 -0400
From: "Cancilla Dominick" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Radio Spirits declining sales
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one have almost completely
stopped buying tapes from Radio Spirits since their 30-hour sets became
20-hour sets without any decrease in price (at least not that I could see).
The cost just got too steep for me. I wonder how many are in the same boat --
I went from buying every 20-tape set Radio Spirits put out to buying none.

Now pretty much all of my OTR money goes to the First Generation Radio
Archives. Not only do I get great quality shows, but I feel that I'm
supporting the preservation of the medium.

--Dominick

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:07:38 -0400
From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WRW, or is not?

I was just looking at the When Radio Was web site, they have down,loads of
Stan Freeburg's show but the others, the movie show and Radio Superheroes
are no where to be seen - or heard. What gives, did they discontinue these
other shows?

Joe Salerno

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:11:48 -0400
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Museum of Television and Radio Want Ad

David Hinckley reports on a key job opening at the New York Museum of
Television and Radio in today's New York Daily News -

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:32:31 -0400
From: "aaltounian" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "Old. Time. Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Clayton Moore

Thank you for the clarification that "unmasking" actually meant not wearing
the mask in public.

Alain

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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:33:17 -0400
From: "Maureen O'Brien" <mobrien@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: CD life expectancy

This CD thing's been discussed on some of my other lists.
Apparently, there are ways to recover data even from damaged CDs.
There is a program known as cdparanoia which is apparently
included with the standard Linux distributions, and it does this.

[removed]#cdparanoia

"Cdparanoia will read correct, rock-solid audio data from
inexpensive drives prone to misalignment, frame jitter and loss
of streaming during atomic reads. Cdparanoia will also read and
repair data from CDs that have been damaged in some way."

Perhaps this is a piece of software that would be useful to
folks here? (Of course, it only works on Linux and other UNIX-type
operating [removed])

Maureen

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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:33:57 -0400
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Walden Hughes schedule
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Arlene Osborne  mentioned that she hated finding out about what was on the
radio in regard to OTR  AFTER  the fact.   Well for Arlene and others like her
here is what is scheduled for Walden Hughes'  program this weekend.

Friday night

Interview   with John J. Anthony

Saturday

Sandy  Singer interviews   Frankie Laine

Interview with Gregg Oppenheimer to talk about his book   "Laugh Luck and
Lucy"

Gassman  interview with George Balzer one of Jack Benny's   writers.

Sunday

Frank Bresee and Tommy Cook

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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:16:25 -0400
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Television mentioned in 1937 on Jack Benny

Hello, another question about the Jack Benny program. I'm sure that I'll
have more as the series progresses. Jack said "After all, this isn't
television." when he was talking about Phil showing off in the beginning of
a 1937 program. I didn't know people used the word television before 1948 or
so. I know that there were movies, but when did they start using television
as a word? Can someone please explain?
Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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