Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #89
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 3/7/2002 2:52 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 89
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      And The Winner [removed]                  [ Patrick Picciarelli <condor@[removed]; ]
      Erik Bauersfeld                       [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
      Portable MP3/CD Players Car Audio in  [ Tim Ryan <tjryanjr@[removed]; ]
      Cartoon characters                    [ "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed] ]
      William Shatner on the radio          [ Glenn Alexander <glenn31313@[removed] ]
      Who Knows .. What Plastic Rings ...   [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      INNER SANCTUM                         [ "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed] ]
      Re: Postage Stamps                    [ "vegan" <vegan@[removed]; ]
      C-r-e-s-t-a B-l-a-n-c-a               [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
      Autographs                            [ "tas richardson" <tasrichardson@spr ]
      Michael Biel's Trivia Question        [ "vegan" <vegan@[removed]; ]
      "Hubub" & "Rhubarb"                   [ Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed] ]
      Inner Sanctum Mysteries               [ Roo61@[removed] (Randy Watts) ]
      RE: The Goon Show (was Spike Milliga  [ ""Cynthia \"ChibiBarako\""" < ]
      Roma-Guild Wineries                   [ "Irene Heinstein" <[removed] ]
      Roma Wines                            [ "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet. ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Back to reality                       [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
      MUMBLE                                [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      VOICES                                [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Variety and TV Guide Heard From       [ jleasure@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:03:30 -0500
    From: Patrick Picciarelli <condor@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: And The Winner [removed]

    Dear List Members;
    About one year ago I asked the members of this list to nominate a truly
    decent OTR dealer whom they would like to see get a little free
    publicity in my next book. Well, the book, "My Life in the NYPD: Jimmy
    the Wags," is out as of yesterday (original paperback from Onyx, $[removed],
    available everywhere). I'm not touting this as an OTR book by any means.
    This is the true story of an NYPD officer who survived the turbulent
    70s, 80s and 90s in one of NY's toughest precincts. This book is,
    however, not one car chase after another, and does have a family theme,
    in which OTR plays a part. It begins in the 50s with radio's "Dragnet"
    influencing young Wags who wants to be a cop like his dad and Joe Friday
    (Wags goes on to request Joe Friday's shield number when he gets
    promoted to Sgt.). The OTR dealer (actually "dealers," you folks voted a
    tie), comes into the action when Wags' dad is dying of cancer.

    I you're curious to find out who the dealers are you'll have to buy the
    book and propel me on to the beast-seller list. On second thought, I
    can't be that mercenary: Ted Davenport and Ed Carr, by a landslide. I
    hope that your admiraton of these men increases their business by way of
    my book. BTW, Danny DeVito is producing a TV movie based on the first
    book, "Jimmy the Wags: Street Stories of a Private Eye," followed by a
    TV series if the movie scores good numbers.

    Buy the book anyway, it ain't bad.

    Patrick Picciarelli (Lt., NYPD. ret.)
    author of: "Blood Shot Eyes."  This one's pretty good, too.

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:35:45 -0500
    From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Erik Bauersfeld

    Having heard some of Erik Bauersfeld's dramas on my
    local NPR station back in the 80s, I've been intrigued by
    the occasional question as to his whereabouts, or the status
    of The Mind's Eye.

    Decided to take a little spare time this afternoon and do
    some web searching.

    Results:
    Bauersfeld was a speaker at the 1998 Modern Language Association
    of America convention.

    He was cited in a 1999 speech to a broadcaster's group as a pioneer
    "still young enough to be active."

    He appears to be associated with a group called Bay Area Radio
    Drama, but I haven't located a page for them [removed]

    [removed]'s try [removed] - what's to lose?

    Bingo!
    Erik Bauersfeld has a credit as "voice of Gardener" in
    Steven Spielberg's film "AI: Artificial Intelligence," which
    as you may know is currently in Oscar contention.

    So while I haven't exactly located Bauersfeld, it's probably safe
    to say that he's still around and still active in the San Francisco
    area.
    John Henley

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:50:56 -0500
    From: Tim Ryan <tjryanjr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Portable MP3/CD Players Car Audio interface

    Greetings to the group

    There seems to be a healthy discussion concerning features and capabilities
    of the various mp3 players out there.  I have previously put my two-cents
    worth forward on the subject, but wanted to add some information.

      I visited my local electronic megastore the other day (Fry's Electronics
    in Sacramento) and noticed a new product that may be of interest.  It is a
    FM radio broadcasting link between the audio ouptut jack on the MP3/CD
    Player and this small tuneable device.  It has a built in power supply that
    converts from the cigarette lighter to 3[removed] or 6 volts.  $[removed] and works
    like a charm.  Made by Akron Resources.  They list a phone number on their
    warranty card of 1-800-841-0884.

    Tim Ryan

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:10:05 -0500
    From: "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Cartoon characters

    Stephen Jansen writes:

>     I was just thinking recently about how tough it is for me NOT to picture
>     FRED FLINTSTONE any time I hear Alan Reed speak (like on "Life With
>     Luigi", for example).  Having grown up with "The Flintstones", his voice
>     is utterly unmistakeable, and permanently associated (in my head) with the
>     aforementioned Mssr [removed] else have any cartoon characters
>     to add?"

    How about Fred's neighbor, Betty Rubble, played by Bea Benaderette?  Or how
    about another twist:  Everytime I catch an old Petticoat Junction and hear
    Bea Benaderette's voice, I now think of Mrs. Carstairs of Fibber McGee fame!
    Didn't used to, of course:  when I was a kid watching PJ, I had no idea Mrs.
    Carstairs existed!  Wasn't until I started listening to OTR in the 80s that
    I made the connection.

    Jimidene Murphey
    "Keepin' it [removed]"

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:10:23 -0500
    From: Glenn Alexander <glenn31313@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: William Shatner on the radio

    I heard Mr. Shatner on a radio before, but
    unfortunatley I cannot remember if it was "Suspense"
    or some other show. Does anyone out there know which
    radio shows he did appear on. Thanks.

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:30:17 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Who Knows .. What Plastic Rings ... Lurk in

    the Shadows?
    Approved: ctrn4eeWlc

    Karl Schadow, speaking of Carey Salt sponsorship of The Shadow, notes,

>     Interestingly, Carey offered a number of premiums during its
>     sponsorship of The Shadow. These included: tulip bulbs (1945), Carey Farm
>     Record Book (1946 and 1947), a G-Man fingerprint set (1947),
>     spatula-paring knife (1947), and The Shadow Magic Ring (1947).

    The Carey Salt version of The Shadow's ring is interesting in that it
    continued a great tradition.  In 1940, Jack Armstrong offered as a
    premium, the Dragon's Eye Ring, composed of ivory-white (luminous)
    plastic with two crocodilians facing each other, mouths open to frame a
    green (plastic) cabochon "stone."  In 1946, the Buck Rogers program
    offered the Ring of Saturn, which looked exactly like the Jack Armstrong
    ring, except that the cabochon "stone" was red.  And the Carey Salt
    Shadow ring was identical, but with a black "stone."

    The crocodile rings, then, bridge nearly three-quarters of a decade, and
    are a great OTR premium tradition.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:28:45 -0500
    From: "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: INNER SANCTUM

    In issue #87 Martin Grams, Jr. noted

>     For the record, there was 534 episodes aired on Inner Sanctum Mysteries, and
>     one possible additional episode recorded specially for the AFRS but never
>     aired over American airwaves.  There was an Australian version of Inner
>     Sanctum but how many episodes aired in Australia is not yet known.

    Martin, the number of episodes aired in Australia is known.  It was 52 eps
    on the Macquarie network.  As mentioned in a previous issue, the renewal
    price for the series was deemed too high so Macquarie decided to do their
    own version and so Creaking Door was born.  At this stage it has not been
    determined how many episodes of Creaking Door were made, but it was either
    26 or 52.  The correct amount of episodes will be determined with a bit more
    research by the Australian group.  One of our major collectors in Australia
    has also noted that there were several other series of which only 'air
    checks' survive, that were also along similar lines as Inner Sanctum.  The
    Australian Archives ([removed]) have 9 episodes of the
    Australian Inner Sanctum held in their archives and I believe several of our
    members hold disks in their collections.

    Ian

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:29:01 -0500
    From: "vegan" <vegan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: Postage Stamps

    Many thanks to Michael Biel in issue #87 for elaborating on the past postage
    stamps honoring celebrities. As I suspected their recognition was based on
    other mediums -stage ,screen, Vaudeville etc. while the radio influence
    seemed shortchanged. Edward R Morrow had a television show-how well I
    remember the chain-smoking and that gives me doubts to him being a pure
    broadcasting personality unless we are including other mediums besides radio
    ([removed] TV) when using the term' broadcast'
    The fact that other members have written in support of stamps honoring
    celebrities for their RADIO influence suggests that this idea might be worth
    considering.
    Robert Dezendorf      Florida

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:29:34 -0500
    From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: C-r-e-s-t-a B-l-a-n-c-a

    Lois Culver mentioned:

>     Subject: Wine (and other) commercials

>     Speaking of wine [removed] enjoyed the Cresta Blanca Wine commercials
>     done by Frank Bingman in Hollywood.  Frank ran UP the scale with
>     C-R-E-S-T-A, and DOWN the scale with B-L-A-N-C-A. Very effectively saying
>     Cresta Blanca three times, each done differently.

        Those sixteen-notes of music were the work of one of the important
    composers in radio, and a musician with a long a distinguished career:
    Morton Gould.  I once heard Gould tell how he'd written the little
    jingle on the spur of the moment for "The Cresta Blanca Carnival of
    Music" on Mutual in 1942.  He didn't know if the sponsor would accept
    the ditty, but the head of the winery was so excited and praised Gould
    so highly that Gould said, "I was afraid that years after I was gone the
    only thing I'd be remembered for was [removed]"

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:30:57 -0500
    From: "tas richardson" <tasrichardson@[removed];
    To: "Oldtime Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Autographs

    Dad Hughes asked if there were any autograph experts on the Digest.  I am no
    expert, but I do have some recent experience with them, though I can't
    answer your question about Burns and Allen.
    Two years ago, an elderly friend of my wife and I, showed us an old
    scrapbook.  It contained nearly a hundred autographs that her mother had
    collected in the mid 1930's, in Winnipeg, Manitoba.  We were "blown away"
    when we saw the signatures of famous people of that time, such as: Winston
    Churchill, Amelia Earhart, Rudyard Kipling, Maxfield Parrish, Edgar Rice
    Burroughs, Sir Malcolm Campbell, Claudette Colbert, etc., etc.  She then
    asked if I would sell them for her.  I had never collected autographs and
    knew nothing about the hobby, or their possible worth.  (Incidentally, these
    were all collected by mail, and were on 2"x3" cards, with two acceptions:
    signed photos of Ma Perkins & Kaiser Bill, she is in costume beside a 1930's
    auto, and he in uniform with all his medals, and sent from exile in
    Holland.)  I spent several months researching on the internet, and finally
    decided to consign the whole collection to a dealer in Pacific Grove,
    Calif., (probably because I had lived in nearby Carmel in the 1960's, and
    had played golf in [removed] and spent many pleasant hours in the library there.)
    My old magazine collection of 1930's Liberty's was also invaluable for
    locating people I wasn't aware of.
    The dealer had a monthly auction on the net, and bids would come in from
    collectors all over the world by phone and fax.  In his catalogue for that
    month he had a nice write-up on our friend and her wonderful collection.  It
    was very exciting as we checked on the bids that were posted each day on his
    website.
    When it was all over, she had realized a considerable sum for the autographs
    that had sold, and was delighted.  Besides "Ma Perkins", the signatures of
    those connected to OTR were:  Mae West, Gloria Swanson, Mary Pickford, Boris
    Karloff, Maurice Chevalier, Joan Bennett, Jean Harlow, Eddie Cantor, who
    signed himself, "Coffee Salesman", and Jimmy Durante, ("Hotcha Schnozzle
    Durante").  The latter sold for $30, so the $35 you mentioned, Dan, was
    probably a fair price.  So it was an interesting and informative experience,
    and a bit of a thrill to actually see and handle the signatures of many
    famous people of that era.

    Tas.

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:31:08 -0500
    From: "vegan" <vegan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Michael Biel's Trivia Question

    On [removed] that represent an actual OTR broadcast:
          -I think there was one for the broadcast of the crash of the
    Hindenberg in Lakewood New Jersey.
    Robert Dezendorf          Florida

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:02:48 -0500
    From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: "Hubub" & "Rhubarb"

    Today the crowd sounds are generally called walla.
    If you are interested in other techniques and background, visit:

    [removed]

      Henry Howard - moderator of  radiodrama@[removed]
    770 923 7955                   [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:11:04 -0500
    From: Roo61@[removed] (Randy Watts)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Inner Sanctum Mysteries

>     Jerry H's logs states there were 527 episodes with
>     387 lost,. leaving 140 to the masses. I have 156 in
>     mp3 format and if you email me with your name
>     and address. it would be my pleasure to make you
>     a set.

    Jerry Haendiges' INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES log is missing eight shows
    aired by ABC on Thursday nights at 8:30 [removed], eastern time, from July
    13, 1950 through August 31, 1950.

    7/13/50 - [unknown title]
    7/20/50 - [unknown title]
    7/27/50 - "Escape by Night"
    8/03/50 - "Speak of the Dead"
    8/10/50 - "The Last House"
    8/17/50 - "The Bog-Oak Necklace"
    8/24/50 - "The Man in the Road"
    8/31/50 - "Alibi for a Corpse"

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:16:42 -0500
    From: ""Cynthia \"ChibiBarako\""" <cvc@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: RE: The Goon Show (was Spike Milligan)

    My 2c worth . . . Don't try to judge the Goon Show by reading scripts.
    Listen to the show.  Repeatedly (especially if you're like me and it
    takes you a while to hear dialogue through an accent!) . . . I have read
    Goon Show scripts and I have listened to Goon Shows, and in the cases
    where I did both with the same episode the recording was infinitely
    funnier than the script.  When I finally had a sense of the show -- when
    I could hear Bloodnok's voice or Bluebottle's distinctive delivery --
    the scripts were finally funny.  But then I was listening to the radio
    of my mind, wasn't I? ;-)

    Try starting with something almost familiar, like one of the Goon
    renditions of Robin Hood.  They don't stick to the plot (they never do!)
    but at least you'll have a little something familiar to hold onto while
    all the craziness happens.

    And frankly, while I love the Goons, I've never really seen the appeal
    of Monty Python.  (Quite apart from the apoplexy it would cause the Hays
    office ...)

    Ying tong iddle i po,

    Cynthia

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:16:24 -0500
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Roma-Guild Wineries
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

>     wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; writes:

> >     Also for any Wine drinkers out there, is Roma Wines
> >     still in business?

>     I asked this question about two years ago and someone (I can't remember
>     who) replied that they thought Roma had been bought out by Gallo Wines.

>     Herb Harrison

    While listening to Suspense tapes I too became curious about Roma.  Since I
    live in California and have not heard of Roma wine I figured they were no
    longer in business.

    At that time I did some internet searching and as has been reported found that
    Roma had been acquired by Guild wineries and distilleries, a growers
    cooperative in Lodi.   I also learned as has been noted of Guild's acquisition
    by Canadigua in 1991, which is now a  subsidiary of Constellation.  Canadigua,
    the second largest wine seller after Gallo, owns about 14 wineries in
    California, including Guild, Almaden, Paul Masson, Taylor, Inglenook and more
    recently Simi and Franciscan Estates.  Canadigua acquired Cook's Champagne
    when they acquired Guild.

    As to Roma, which was based in Fresno with another branch in Lodi I did find
    out some stuff.  At one time it was the single largest winery in the world,
    pre-prohibition turning out varietal wines.  During prohibition they switched
    to making communion wines.  In 1933 Roma built a large new winery in Fresno
    which increased its production to over 10 million gallons per year, the
    largest capacity of any winery in the world at that time.  During WWII the
    facility was converted to producing industrial alcohol for the war effort.
    After that I know nothing.  I don't know when Guild acquired Roma, but it was
    probably in the 60s when they acquired other wineries.

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:29:01 -0500
    From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Roma Wines

    Acording to the US Patent office records the last registered owner of the
    Roma Wines trademark is
    "Guild Wineries and Distillers by change of name from California One
    Winemaster's Way, Lodi CA"
    It was last renewed in September of 1989 and is considered "active."

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:27:11 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1933 - CBS debuted the first daytime radio serial on this day. Marie the
    Little French Princess had a successful run of two years on the air.

    1944 - Norman Corwin hosted a program titled, Columbia Presents Corwin
    on the CBS.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:46:40 -0500
    From: otrbuff@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Back to reality

    I was driving on the far side of Kauai's shores last week in one of the
    remotest areas of civilization, claimed to be the westernmost of this
    nation.  I had been virtually out-of-touch with what had transpired
    around the globe for 10 days, cut off from email, Internet, telephone,
    newspapers with widespread stories and television that featured only a
    few recognizable shows playing at odd and unexpected hours.  Having
    become accustomed for days to ukuleles and chanting melodies on the car
    radio, what a surprise to hear the familiar clicking and the "bong" din
    preceding CBS news on the hour -- and a live newscast that brought
    headlines from Afghanistan and other far flung vistas.  It was a dose of
    reality and a treat genuinely missed.  As one of the few vestiges of OTR
    still in existence, that few minutes of CBS news was like the return of
    an old friend.  I'm thankful that not quite all of OTR is yet dead.  I
    wonder:  How much longer will we have even that to appreciate?  When it
    ends, something truly will be lost in audio communication.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:48:47 -0500
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: MUMBLE

>     ...cast members would gather around, slightly off-mike, and
>     mutter, murmur, or generally speak to each other in low tones to create
>     the "atmosphere" of a large group of people.

    Years ago, Chicago director Jim Jewel told us --cast members not in the
    scene, stand around off-mic and mumble the alphabet.

          [removed] <:-)
              A DATE WITH SINATRA

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:36:14 -0500
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: VOICES

>     I was fascinated by Mr. Scribner changing voices as fast as he did.

    Marvin Miller did the same thing on The Coronet [removed]

          [removed] <:-)
              A DATE WITH SINATRA

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    Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:41:21 -0500
    From: jleasure@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Variety and TV Guide Heard From

    And still more depressing Hollywood news fro TV Guide via Variety (but please
    remember these are PR items planted for making a BUZZ -- they may have no
    basis in fact):

    HEIGH-HO, SILVER!:
    The makers of Gladiator have struck a deal with Columbia Pictures to produce
    The Lone Ranger, Variety reports. Think 1998's The Mask of Zorro, but with
    cowboys and Indians in the Old West. Word is,Tonto ó the hero's Indian scout
    sidekick ó may even be reimagined as a
    fetching female! ([removed] perhaps The Time Machine beauty Samantha Mumba would
    consider donning another loincloth?)

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