Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #141
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Date: 4/23/2004 3:56 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 141
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
      25th thousand                         [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      tape to computer                      [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Re: episode guide                     [ rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed] ]
      Great Gildersleeve Question           [ Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed]; ]
      Re: Episode logs, books, etc.         [ Ga6string@[removed] ]
      THE SHADOW of Steve Courtleigh        [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
      For those who missed thye IRC chat la [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
      Lois is back--and #oldradio's got he  [ "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@comc ]
      "Bold Venture"                        [ kclarke5@[removed] ]
      25th thousand"                        [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
      4-24 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Bela Lugosi old time radio            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:46:04 -0400
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi friends,

    Here is this week's line-up for the week of 4-18-04 on my Olde Tyme Radio
    [removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
    Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
    Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
    streaming RealAudio at [removed]

    Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

    We look forward to having you join us!

    	Jerry

    Here's this week's lineup:

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

    Welcome the return of Baseball!

    WELCOME BACK BASEBALL
    4-15-50  "Second Annual Broadcast"
    Stars: Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, Dorothy Lamour, Ralph Kiner (leading home-run
    hitter from Pittsburgh)

    FAVORITE SPORTS STORIES OF GRANTLAND RICE
    Episode 4  1-15-44  "Your Could Look It Up"
    Stars: Grantland Rice
    With: John McGovern, Roy Fance, Ed Begley, Joe Boland, Julian Noah, Jim
    Bowles and Frank Butler.
    Author: James Thrurber

    FRED ALLEN SHOW
    Episode 17  4-25-48  "Scalping Baseball Tickets"
    Guest: Leo Durocher

    TEXACO STAR THEATER
    Episode 30  4-20-49  "Salute To Baseball"
    Stars: Milton Berle
    With: Pert Kelton, Jack Albertson, Arnold Stang, Al Kelly Charlie Irving,
    Jacqueline Suzanne
    Announcer: Frank Gallop
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    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

    DIMENSION X
    11/20/50 NBC "Shanghaied"
    Starring John Sylvester, with William Griffin.

    ESCAPE
    8/18/49   CBS   "Snake Doctor"
    Stars: William Conrad, with Jeff Chandler as the narrator.

    SCREEN DIRECTOR'S PLAYHOUSE
    7/29/49   "Saigon"
    stars Alan Ladd.
    ========================================

    THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

    Amos 'n' Andy
    CBS    10/7/51    "Aptitude Test"

    Kay Kyser's Kollege Of Musical Knowledge
    NBC / AFRS    10/11/44    "from the [removed] Naval Station at Alameda,
    California"

    The First Nighter Program
    CBS    12/22/45    "Little Town Of Bethlehem"

    Grand Central Station
    CBS    8/15/51    "If The Shoe Doesn't Fit"

    Guest Star
    [removed] Treasury Dept.    10/9/49    # 133    "Hopalong Cassidy"

    The Couple Next Door
    CBS    1/1/58    # 3    "Phone Call"
    ====================================

    Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
    shows.

                Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
      Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:46:37 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  25th thousand

>     My question is this -- under the title of the book appears, in smaller
>     type,  "25th Thousand."  Directly under those two words is "$2 - Little,
>     Brown."  I am assuming the advertisement is complete.

    I've never read that phrase before, but my unsupported guess is that the
    book had sold 25,000 copies up to that point, there having been 25 printings
    of 1,000 copies each.  The first printing of a poetry book would be pretty
    small--say, 1,000 copies, and the publisher would consider himself lucky to
    sell that many.  Nash's work, always popular, needed 25 such printings to
    fill the demand.

    I think this is a bit strange, because generally the number of copies in a
    book's second printing reflects its popularity.  So a second printing should
    have been, say, 2,000 copies.  Perhaps it was the perilous economics of
    1938.

    M Kinsler

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:47:01 -0400
    From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  tape to computer

    Those looking to copy their cassette library to computer file might want to
    check out this product, available from [removed]:
    [removed]

    I haven't tried it myself, but it fits in a standard 5-1/4" bay and based on
    the hardware photo, looks reasonably easy to install.  Plus it will look
    completely cool in your machine.  Unfortunately, it's only for Win95/98/ME/XP
    machines.

    -chris holm
    Standard Disclaimer.  I have no connection to any of these companies, but I
    have made several orders from Thinkgeek in the past and have always been
    completely satisfied with both product and service.

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:47:33 -0400
    From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: episode guide

    Stephen Wright wrote:

>     I think you are making a sweeping and inaccurate generalization.

    Come to think of it, I think what I had really done was make a moderate
    exageration in the interest of proving a point.  Stephen is correct that
    there are some worthwhile logs out there on the internet.  I would however
    suggest exercising EXTREME caution when choosing which online logs to trust
    or skip past.

    Yes, books do almost always have some sort of mistake, but thanks to the
    proofreading process (that usually isn't done online) it's likely that there
    will be fewer mistakes.

    rodney.

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:47:57 -0400
    From: Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Great Gildersleeve Question

    Hi, Folks.

    Recently I've been listening to consecutive episodes of The Great
    Gildersleeve daily while taking afternoon walks. I'm now up to January,
    1943 and recently noticed the disappearance of Gildersleeve's
    secretary, Ms. Fitch. Does anyone know what happened to her? It's
    possible that I'm missing an episode somewhere, but one week she was
    there, and the next, Gildersleeve was looking for a new secretary
    without any mention of Ms. Fitch at all. I'm just curious.

    On a related note, I recently purchased the new DVD set of the 1990s
    animated television program "The Critic," (in a similar vein as "The
    Simpsons") which I've been enjoying very much. I've seen six or seven
    episodes over the past couple weeks and I've been tickled to note
    several references to Fibber McGee and Molly and The Great
    Gildersleeve. Someone on the writing staff must have been a fan.

    Bryan Wright

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:59:00 -0400
    From: Ga6string@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Episode logs, books, etc.
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    Everyone on this list probably has a different "place" for OTR in their
    lives. Mine is this: I love to listen to the programs, but I'm not as
    enthralled
    with the history behind them. I'll use episode guides to help me find shows
    that
    I want to hear and to own, but I'm not fascinated with finding that one
    lost/missing episode of a certain show, either. OTR writers serve a wonderful
    purpose for the hobby: They document the genre (a vital service, as fewer and
    fewer
    of its original practitioners are living), separate fact from fiction and put
    shows into a proper historical CONTEXT. My need for OTR knowledge, however,
    doesn't run that deep. I'm more of a vigorous consumer than a collector or
    archivist. For me, OTR programs are a great companion, especially when I'm
    stuck
    with menial projects in the house or yard, or am driving in the car. I love
    this stuff! And it's becoming even more valuable to me as TV becomes
    increasingly
    unwatchable, due to the miserable "reality" content and the
    frequency/duration of commercial interruptions. However, I'd rather spend my
    time listening to
    actual OTR programs than reading about them, and thus I'm likely to spend my
    money on programs rather than on books.
    Bryan Powell

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:02:09 -0400
    From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  THE SHADOW of Steve Courtleigh
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    In a message dated 4/22/04 11:18:07 PM, [removed]@[removed]
    writes:

>     Hi folks, need some help here.  I'm trying to determine what episodes of
>     The
>     Shadow that Steve Courtleigh was in.  Some info says he played the role in
>     September and October of 1945, other info says he was in The Little Man Who
>     Wasn't There which aired 4/8/45.  Anyone have a list of his episodes and
>     wether or not they are available??

    ***Steve Courtleigh starred as THE SHADOW in the first half-dozen episodes of
    the 1945-46 season.   The confusion came from a mistake I made a
    quarter-century ago in THE SHADOW SCRAPBOOK (which in turn came from an error
    in John
    Dunning's original OTR volume).   John Archer completed the 1944-45 SHADOW
    season,
    and starred in "The Little Man Who Wasn't There" and "The Destroyer," both of
    which are in circulation.   There are no circulating episodes featuring Steve
    Courtleigh, to the best of my knowledge.

    BTW, most logs (including the one in THE SHADOW SCRAPBOOK) list Laura Mae
    Carpenter as playing Margot Lane opposite Courtleigh.   This now appears to be
    incorrect.   While Carpenter may have played supporting roles on the series, a
    newspaper photo recently unearthed by researcher Karl Schadow shows Steve
    Courtleigh and Lesley Woods posing together on-mike for the season opener.
    Since
    Lesley Woods completed the 1945-46 season with Bret Morrison, it appears she
    costarred as Margot the entire season.  Carpenter may have been initially cast
    with Courtleigh during the summer, but seems to have been dropped from the
    role by the time the show actually premiered.   Or she may have been announced
    as
    a suppporting player and had some newspaper reporter assume that she was
    playing The Shadow's friend and companion.   (Actually, her casting had always
    puzzled me anyway, since she had no other major credits in radio, and was the
    only supposed Margot Lane who was NOT a radio mainstay.   With the exception
    of
    Broadway veteran Margot Stevenson (the character's namesake) and Hollywood
    veteran Judith Allen, all the other Radio Margots (Agnes Moorehead, Marjorie
    Anderson, Jeanette Nolan, Lesley Woods, Grace Matthews and Gertrude Warner)
    played
    numerous other radio leads.   And Steve Courtleigh himself had extensive
    Broadway credits (including playing Abraham Lincoln) and screen credits, and
    had
    just starred in MYSTERY IN THE AIR, NBC's summer replacement for THE ABBOTT &
    COSTELLO SHOW.

    BTW, former SHADOW director Bob Steel told me that Courtleigh was dropped
    mid-season because he was very wooden in the role.   Courtleigh's brother
    confirmed that Steve was generally wooden in leading man roles and superb as a
    character actor.   Apparently, Courtleigh was cast because of an exceptional
    reading
    as THE SHADOW, but floundered in the role of Cranston (which of course was
    featured through the majority of each show). --ANTHONY TOLLIN (in the
    shadows)***

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:01:42 -0400
    From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  For those who missed the IRC chat last [removed]

    ...we had the return of our [removed] CULVER WAS BACK!

             Charlie

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:01:49 -0400
    From: "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lois is back--and #oldradio's got her!

    Fellow Digest Denizens:

    Last night, at mIRC's #oldradio, we were indeed fortunate and blessed to
    receive a surprise visit from the grande dame of chat herself, Lois Culver.

    I, for one, was deliriously happy to see Lois (even if I did have to wear
    that Little Lord Fauntleroy suit that I hate, absolutely hate) and am
    pleased to report that she's as sassy and delightful as ever.

    At the risk of this sounding Mae West-ian, you should "come up and see her
    sometime"--Thursday nights at 8pm EST on mIRC.  Even Charlie was on his best
    behavior, pushing aside his usual barrel of scotch to converse with the lady
    Lois.

    I was in such a good mood that I went into work later that evening and was
    ACTUALLY pleasant to the hotel's guests.

    Ivan
    ----
    OTR Ramblings and Musings at Thrilling Days of Yesteryear:
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:36:32 -0400
    From: kclarke5@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Bold Venture"

         I have a few questions about the OTR
    program known as "Bold Venture", which starred
    Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall.  Was it
    ever a movie?  Who sponsored the OTR version?
    How long was it on the air?

         I also would like to know the broadcast
    dates for the two episodes I have: "The Phyllis
    Calvert Murder Case" and "Slate's Tuxedo Pocket".
    I know they were both broadcast in 1950.

         All I really know about this show was that
    it was broadcast on the Mutual network.  That's
    about all.  Any help will be appreciated.

    Another OTR fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:16:12 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  25th thousand"

    Thanks to those readers who have written me privately telling me that "25th
    thousand" probably refers to the number of copies sold (in reference to my
    post yesterday about the 1938 advertisement for Ogden Nash's book, I'M A
    STRANGER HERE MYSELF, with "25th thousand"   printed under the title).

    This explanation is the first thing I thought of.  Yet, "25th thousand" is
    a rather awkward way of saying 25,000 copies sold.  It is the "th" suffix
    that doesn't make sense.  In other words, 25th thousand of what? If it is
    copies, than why not say 25,000 copies sold.  I  takes up just  slightly
    more  print.

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:16:19 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-24 births/deaths

    April 24th births

    04-24-1893 - Leslie Howard - London, England - d. 6-2-1943
    actor: "Leslie Howard Theatre"; "Streamlined Shakespeare"
    04-24-1924 - Marilyn Erskine - Rochester, NY
    actress: Gail Carver "Lora Lawton"; Janey Brown "Young Widder Brown"

    April 24th deaths

    02-13-1908 - Lennie Hayton - NYC - d. 4-24-1971
    conductor: "Your Hit Parade"; "Ipana Troubadors"
    03-06-1885 - Rosario Bourdon - Longuereil, Quebec, Canada - d. 4-24-1961
    conductor: "Cities Service Concert"; "Great Personalities"
    08-21-1890 - Bill Henry - San Francisco, CA - d. 4-24-1970
    commentator: Chief CBS Correspondent
    10-02-1898 - Bud Abbott - Asbury Park, NJ - d. 4-24-1974
    comedian: "Abbott and Costello Show"
    10-29-1897 - Hope Emerson - Hawarden, IA - d. 4-24-1960
    actress: Henrietta Topper "Advs. of Topper"; Elsie the Cow "Happy Island"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:49:39 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bela Lugosi old time radio

    I have a friend who just asked me on the phone the other day if it's
    possible to acquire an old-time radio show of Art Linkletter's HOUSE PARTY
    that features Bela Lugosi as a guest.  Apparently, according to him, this
    recording does exist and the only person he knows of who has it won't let a
    copy leave his hands.  Yet I'm familiar with the Lugosi author he described
    and I'm pretty sure an OTR collector or dealer was the originator.  If
    anyone has a copy of this recording, please let me know and I'll pass you on
    to my friend who is looking for a copy.  He's a big Lugosi fan.
    Martin
    mmargrajr@[removed]

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