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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 380

Table Of Contents: 

	 Re: Have Gun Will Travel
	 Radio Yesteryear
	 D-Day on CBS
	 Re: New LONE RANGER movie, WAR OF THE WORLDS, FRANK NELSON
	 Turntables
	 Re: Missing Jack Benny Shows
	 78 rpm turntable
	 Re: books
	 The Lone Ranger
	 AMERICAN AIRLINES "MUSIC TILL DAWN"
	 I Still Love a Mystery & the Best Critique of _the Legend of
	the Lone Ranger_
	 Turntables
	 Detroit Wonderland
	 the Lone Serials

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 06:22:58 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <michaelcarraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Have Gun Will Travel
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AIC4Radio@[removed] wrote 
> 
> "If the girl who's being held prisoner has been harmed in any way, I'll flip
> a coin to see which one I gun down first."
>                                              --Paladin, "Have Gun Will Travel"
> 
> Guess what Hollywood star has signed a $20 million contract to play our
> favorite Western Soldier of Fortune?  John Travolta!
> 
> Hollywood is really into OTR!
> 

Lest we forget, HGWT was first and foremost a TV show.  The radio show
was "adapted for radio" from TV scripts.  I've had a chance to
"experience" both radio and TV versions of the same story, and generally
--- heresy for the OTR newsletter --- the TV version was better, with
more depth and complexity for Paladin and how he dealt with other
characters and the situation.  Why?  The radio HGTV arrived when radio
was already in its death throes and perhaps the best writers had already
moved over to television.  More likely, rather than doing original
stories based on the Paladin character, the radio show recycled TV
scripts.  I've experienced both radio and TV versions of the same story
on other programs (Dragnet, the Lone Ranger) in which the TV adaptation
fell short.  Maybe it's very difficult to translate a story from one
medium to another.

Hollywood is much more into OTTV ([removed], Star Trek, Mission Impossible,
Beverly Hillbillies, Flintstones, Brady Bunch, Maverick et al).

Now, John Travolta to play Paladin?? (AKA
wire:paladin@[removed])  Too old, and too pretty.  And too
Brooklyn.  Paladin needs to convey hardness and cultural refinement,
plus an air of mystery.  What under-40 big box office actor could fill
the boots of Richard Boone and John Dehner?

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:27:59 +0000
From: "F. Charles Simar" <FCharlesSimar@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Yesteryear
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Does anyone have the address for Radio Yesteryear?  I used to receive their
catalogs all of the time, but
recently I haven't heard a peep from them.  Has anybody else had this happen
to them?  Do they maybe even have a website out there?  

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 07:32:35 -0500
From: "Marvin R. Bensman" <bensmanm@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: D-Day on CBS
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We have 5 1/2 hours of D-Day broadcast on CBS - Cassettes #0255 to 0260.
Some of earliest long stretches of non-related material are missing. But
after the first hour - solid listening as to what it was like on that most
momentous day.

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*Professor Marvin R. Bensman, [removed], [removed]                              *
*Department of Communication; Office Phone: (901) 678-3174 or 678-2565 *
*University of Memphis        Fax: (901) 678-4331                      *
*Memphis, TN 38152                                                     *
*E-mail: BensmanM@[removed]                                       *
* To see University of Memphis radio archive look at:                  *
*[removed]~[removed]                  *

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:47:52 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: New LONE RANGER movie, WAR OF THE WORLDS, FRANK NELSON
Message-ID: <961009094752_205905667@[removed]>

To answer some questions from OTRD#379, the late Frank Nelson was the
obnoxious department store employee who always responded "Yeeeessss" when
Jack Benny asked "Excuse me, are you the floorwalker?"  Frank Nelson attended
the FOTR convention in 1984 and 1985 and was kind enough to record a phone
answering machine message I still use: "May I help you leave a message for
Anthony and Adrienne Tollin?  Well, Yeeessss, if you leave your name and
number at the tone."
     A new LONE RANGER movie is in the works, according to the latest issue
(#36) of "THE SILVER BULLET - A Newsletter for Lone Ranger Enthusiasts and
Collectors."  "The Lone Ranger, the 1950's TV Cowboy hero who flopped on the
silver screen in 1980, will mount his faithful steed once again for Fox.
 Family Films' Steve Maeda ("Sand Blast") has inked a deal to pen a script
for producers Ben Myron and David Helpern, who acquired film rights to the
masked man from Lorne Michaels' Broadway Video.  "We'll focus more on the
relationship between The Lone Ranger and Tonto, who are absolute equals (in
our version)," said Myron.  Actually, Klinton Spilsbury (while dertainly not
up to the role) gets to much of the blame for the disasterous 1980 "The
Legend of The Lone Ranger."  The film was badly thought our from the
beginning.  Most of the film is about "John Reid" before he becomes the
Masked Man.  It is an hor into the film before Spilsbury dons the mask, leaps
onto the great white horse and cries "Hi Yo Silver Away."    The second
Clayton Moore film very effectively retold the origin during the first three
minut title [removed] Striker never gave The Lone Ranger a first name,
wanting his character to be a man who had buried his identity to become The
Lone Ranger.  I've always felt The Lone Ranger's real name was perhaps
"Britt", and that Dan Reid Jr. had named his own son not Dan Reid III but
"Britt Reid" after the uncle who had raised him.   Spilsbury's dialogue had
to be dubbed by James Kech because the film was shot on location and not on a
hollywood soundstage, requiring all the dialogue to be "relooped."  Spilbury
was not a experienced actor and apparently could not lipsink effectively.
     While the recordings of "The War of the Worlds" that have made it onto
commercial recordings may have come from a local station's aircheck, other
disks did survive.  John Houseman owned a set when Walter Gibson sublet his
apartment during the war.  Paul Stewart owned the recordings of the rehearsal
and I suspect that Welles and CBS both had copies.   I own a set of 16" "War
of the Worlds" disks from 1940.  (The CBS legal department needed to check
outthe recordings after the broadcast.)  Also, I can hardly imagine the
police deliberately destroying potential evidence.  Since the commercial
recordings were released without the authorization  or permission of Welles
and CBS (the script was copyrighted in writer Howard Koch's name) who
probably refused to co-operate with a release they had not authorized. --
Anthony Tollin         

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:48:54 -0400
From: acosentini@[removed]
To: otr@[removed] 
Subject: Turntables
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     Yes a few companies are still making turntables that can play "78 rpm" 
     disks. On web look under [removed]  .A Mr. Kurt Nauck 
     deals in "old" records and also carries a line of turntables. He also 
     has the basic type of styli needed for basic playback. If you don't 
     have a pre-amp that recreate the needed playback curves you should 
     call "78" Archival Supplies, Mr. Richard Markel at 415-457-7878. 
     Markel also carries a line of turntables and styli. But he also 
     carries the "OWL 1" restoration module. This neat little unit lets you 
     dial in the needed playback curves for all disc's including the RIAA 
     curves. If you need any more specific info on audio restoration you 
     can call me or e-mail me.
     
     Adrian Cosentini
     Chief Audio Engineer
     Rodgers & Hammestein Archives of Recorded Sound
     40 Lincoln Center Plaza
     New York,NY 10023
     212-870-1609
     acosentini@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 08:04:09 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: lgenco@[removed]
Subject: Re: Missing Jack Benny Shows
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lgenco@[removed] (Lou Genco) writes:
>In a recent issue of the OTR Digest, Tom Barnett asked:
>>Could this be the ever elusive "Buying Shoelaces for Don" Christmas =
>episode.
>
>The answer is YES!  visit [removed], and listen to a
>RealAudio soundclip. Metal tips or plastic tips, it is indeed the
>clip! 

Waaaiit a [removed] Waaaiit a [removed] WAAAIIT A MIIINUTE!  :-)

Am I mistaken, or wasn't the shoelaces episode supposed to be one of
the great lost treasures of the radio series? Chuck Schaden went on for
ages about that whenever he'd play the Christmas shows, and how horrible
it was that the first show in the Christmas Shopping series, the shoelace
episode, was missing. We've talked about much the same thing here in the
past.

And now all of a sudden: "Ooops. Here it is. Okay, come and get it."
I was expecting a _little_ more excitement here. Isn't there some great
discovered-in-the-attic or found-at-a-garage-sale story to be heard on
how this show finally surfaced.

Before it presumably propagates into six thousand duplicates circling
the globe, I'd like to know: Where _did_ this come from?

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:33:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Kinsler <kinsler@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 78 rpm turntable
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The quality of even a fairly cheap turnable shouldn't affect the quality 
of a 78 rpm recording.  The only problem with machines like the classic 
BSR (with the plastic platter) is that the 78 rpm speed is maybe 5% 
slow.  Since you are using a magnetic cartridge and an appropriate 
stylus, the fidelity should be about as good as you can get out of the 
disks--especially if they're the shellac or hard rubber variety.  If they 
are vinyl, the reduced surface noise might not mask any rumble, but if 
the records are listenable on the present setup I wouldn't go to great 
lengths to change it.  I rather doubth that the improvement would be 
audible.  
                        Yours for sanity in audio component selection
                              Mark Kinsler        

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:28:16 4
From: "edcarr" <edcarr@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: books
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

start off the two books
golden web,wxie wonderland
are on the list.
almost all of corwins
this was your hit parade   [removed]    1975
radio's golden age         buxton owens   1966
great radio heroes         [removed]       1967
the serials                 [removed]     1970
pictorial history of radio  [removed]       1967
star spangled radio         kirby and harris 1948
tune in tomorrow            [removed] higby     1966
handbook of radio writeing  [removed]       1939
of mikes and men            [removed]       1951
columbia workshop           d. coulter       1939
radio writeing              [removed]          1939
radio listening in america  [removed]      1948
the jack benny show         [removed]             1975
red skelton                 a. mark           1979
theater guild on the air    [removed]        1947
                           
                        edcarr@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 09:16:31 -0800
From: Bob & Ronna Rutishauser <SOLONS@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger
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As I look around in video and CD stores for bargains, I sometimes find 
interesting values. The other day I found a video of "The Legend of 
The Lone Ranger" for $[removed] It is the story of the origin of the 
Ranger from the ambush of the group of Rangers, meeting Tonto, finding 
Silver, the origin of the silver bullets and the apprehension of Butch 
Cavendish.   This is a compilation of the TV series, 69 minutes long, 
made in 1949 with no commercial breaks.  It is distributed by Front 
Row Entertainment, [removed] Box 5891, Edison, NJ  08818-5891.  I have no 
interest in the company but am sharing my find with the group!

Bob R.

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 12:38:07 EDT
From: w9fjl@[removed] (RICHARD S. FISHER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: AMERICAN AIRLINES "MUSIC TILL DAWN"
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

FOR SEVERAL YEARS AMERICAN AIRLINES SPONSERED A LATE NIGHT CLASSICAL
MUSIC PROGRAM CALLED "MUSIC TILL DAWN".  IT WAS ON ONE OF THE MAJOR
NETWORKS-NOT SURE WHICH.

ALSO AMERICAN AIRLINES OFFERED A 33 1/3 RECORD OF HIGHLIGHTS OF THE
PROGRAM.  I INTENDED TO ORDER IT BUT NEVER DID. THE RECORD WAS OFFERED
ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO WHILE I LIVED IN CHICAGO.

DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW IF ANY "MUSIC TILL DAWN" DISKS OR TAPES ARE
AVAILABLE AND IF SO WHERE CAN THEY BE OBTAINED.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!


DICK FISHER w9fjl@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 12:29:45 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: I Still Love a Mystery & the Best Critique of _the Legend of
	the Lone Ranger_
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Y'all are right in your supposition:  even the Carlton Morse estate doesn't
have much in the way of recordings (all they seem to have, or admit to
having, are in circulation).  They do have most, if not all, the scripts -- but
they're sitting on 'em.  (Whoever "they" is.  Jim Harmon could give more -
scathing, I'm sure - details, but he's a gentleman and doesn't particularly
wanna destroy anyone.)

And the best line about the Bad Lone Ranger movie?  When Jason
Robard said "Who was that masked man?" an audience member shouted
out "It sure wasn't the Lone Ranger!"  (OK, so you've heard this before.)

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "No success will compensate for failure in the home."
                               -- President David O. McKay

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:51:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Turntables
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> Hey fellow and fellowette otr collectors!  I'm going to ask you a 
> question that may be bending the otr format a bit.  I have some ol 78's 
> of Hop-Along Cassidy, the Lone Ranger, Fibber Mcgee and Molly, LOretta 
> Young, etc. along with about four thousand music 78s.  The phonograph I 
> use to dub them off onto tape is an old [removed] Penny joberdoo in which I 
> installed a cartrideg that takes a Shure 3 mil needle.  Is there any 
> company you can think of that makes a "quality" turntable for 78 
> reproductions?  I'm to the point of seriously selling my 78 collection, 
> but would like to put them on tape before hand.  Any help out there in 
> collector land?  :-) 
 
Check out the pawn shops.  I look in them from time to
time for old computers and I see more than a few turntables
for sale.  Probably cheap although I didn't check the price.

I've bought a lot of old computers in pawn shops and a few
stereo things and I've never failed to get my money's worth
yet.  But of course, if I do, I'm out of luck once it's out
the door.

If you do this be sure to negotiate.  Offer them half as much
as their asking price.  With a little discussion you may get
it.  1/3 of is pretty normal.  Sometimes its only about 20%
off.  It depends on how much they have in it.

Barry

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 15:14:14 -0500 (EST)
From: SAH@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Detroit Wonderland
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   Dick Osgood was much more than an announcer throughout his many
   years with WXYZ in Detroit.  His book is as honest and well written
   as any dealing with early radio and its developments.  Honesty is
   a rare commodity when looking back and he spent time to get it right.

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 13:52:08 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: the Lone Serials
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Bruce Rudesill feels the Lone Ranger movie serials played fast and loose
with the legend of the Lone Ranger.  It should be remembered that, when
the first serial was made, there WAS no legend (origin) of the Lone
Ranger.  Indeed, the radio serial kept hinting that the Ranger was a
famous figure of history, and that people would be surprised if they saw
his face.  Fran Striker did have some input into the serial, and either the
lone surviving ranger (of an ambush by The Bad Guys) was his idea, or
he liked it - for he incorporated that origin, embellished and improved, into
his radio show.

The lousy movie (_Legend [removed]) did make one small improvement, but it
was in an idea only.  For years, Butch Cavendish seemed like Just
Another Outlaw - the man who arranged such a devestating ambush
(wiping out evidently every Texas Ranger other than John Reid, since
the Rangers never appeared to avenge this slaughter) deserved status
as a major villian.  The movie serial had a Master Criminal (who arranged
that first ambush); Christopher Lloyd as Butch Cavendish became such a
Super Villian.

Of course, that was the ONLY thing the movie's story seemed to do
right.

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "No success will compensate for failure in the home."
                               -- President David O. McKay




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