Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #323
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Date: 10/7/2004 12:20 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 323
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Dangerfield                           [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
      Benny and Rodney Dangerfield          [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      John Daly-WML Mystery Guests          [ "Tim Lones" <timl2002@[removed] ]
      SPERDVAC meeting this Saturday        [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      How the programs worked               [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
      radio writers                         [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
      Halowe'en Program'mes                 [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Thanks, all                           [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Gildy's Blade                         [ "Ken Lanza" <klanza@[removed]; ]
      A Benny birthday                      [ "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed] ]
      Rodney Dangerfield                    [ ABCDiehl@[removed] ]
      Lux Radio Theatre                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      10-8 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      old microphone/lamp?                  [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
      Jack Benny                            [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:56:41 -0400
    From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dangerfield

    The name "Dangerfield" goes back through showbiz history. Stan Laurel
    played a character named Dangerfield in 1926, and several other films of
    that decade had characters with that name. Between 1903 and 1948, Ella
    Howard Bryan wrote dozens of Western stories under the pseudonym Clinton
    Dangerfield.

    Jack Benny and Ellen Drew starred in Paramount's BUCK BENNY RIDES AGAIN
    in 1940. That same year, Ellen Drew headed the cast in Paramount's THE
    TEXAS RANGERS RIDE AGAIN, portraying a character named Ellen "Slats"
    Dangerfield, while May Robson appeared as Cecilia Dangerfield and John
    Miljan played Carter Dangerfield. Possibly the plethora of Dangerfields
    and the Ellen Drew connection inspired Benny's writers to concoct the
    Rodney Dangerfield Western actor.

    The comedian began performing in his teens as Jack Roy. When he married
    in 1949, he spent 12 years as an aluminum-siding salesman, living with
    his wife and children in Englewood, New Jersey. At the time of his
    divorce, he decided to try for a comeback when he was 40 years old. The
    NEW YORK MIRROR listed New York area nightclubs and acts. Since he
    hadn't performed in years and didn't know how his new act would go over,
    he wanted to appear, as he put it, "anonymously." He told Inwood Lounge
    owner George McFadden to use "any name at all" except Jack Roy when
    giving information to the MIRROR. When the emcee gave an introduction,
    he said, "Here's Rodney Dangerfield."

    Dangerfield's autobiography, IT'S NOT EASY BEIN' ME: A LIFETIME OF NO
    RESPECT BUT PLENTY OF SEX AND DRUGS, was published last June by
    HarperCollins. In recounting his comeback, Dangerfield writes, "My show
    went fine, despite my nervousness, and afterward I asked the owner,
    'Where'd you get that name?' 'I don't know,' he said. 'I made it up,
    just like that.' All my friends said it was a funny name, so I decided
    to keep it."

    Nothing in the memoir indicates that Dangerfield knew (at the time) that
    the name came from THE JACK BENNY SHOW. Perhaps McFadden did not even
    listen to THE JACK BENNY SHOW but heard the name from someone who was a
    listener. At any rate, it seems unlikely that Dangerfield could have
    gone for long without learning the true source of the name.

    Bhob @ FUSEBOX @ [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:57:07 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Benny and Rodney Dangerfield

    I'm on break from the club, but I'll take this one briefly.

    "Rodney Dangerfield" was referred to on only a couple Benny shows, and was
    years before the comedian began performing.  I had asked some time back if
    the
    inspiration for the name had been taken from the Benny show, but never got
    an answer.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:16:38 -0400
    From: "Tim Lones" <timl2002@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  John Daly-WML Mystery Guests
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    It was indeed understood that John Daly would be the "Mystery Guest" if one
    failed to show [removed] in 17 years, no one did. So On the last Show in August
    1967 John Daly was the Mystery [removed] the panel almost didnt get [removed]

    Tim Lones

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:19:12 -0400
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  SPERDVAC meeting this Saturday

    The guest speaker at the Saturday, October 9th SPERDVAC meeting is former
    child actor TED DONALDSON.  Ted is already an Honorary Member, having
    appeared at a meeting in January, 1980 (almost 25 years ago!).

    Ted began his career in the late 1930s in NYC on early TV(!), moving on to
    stage, radio & films.  His radio work began on the Ted Malone Show,
    following up with daytime serials & evening dramas.  Moving to Hollywood to
    act in movies; he was in "Once Upon a Time" (film version of Norman Corwin's
    "My Client Curley") with Cary Grant, among others, he continued radio work
    on Screen Guild Players, Cavalcade of America and more. Ted was "Bud" on
    Robert Young's "Father Knows Best" for 5 years on radio.

    The meeting is free & open to the public and begins at 12 noon.  Meeting
    place is the Mid-Valley Library, 16244 Nordhoff St., North Hills (in San
    Fernando Valley).
    See you there!

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:20:45 -0400
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  How the programs worked

    "evantorch" <etorch@[removed]; Asked:

>     1.) Were all of the actors on the stage (if the
>     program was in front of an audience) all of the
>     time? When we here(sic) Jack Benny or Lux or Burns and
>     Allen was the cast sitting down waiting for their
>     parts; were guest stars on the stage the whole time?

    And

>     2.) How many people used a microphone (for example
>     the RCA 44B)and how each actor knew what mike to go to?

    No1. Correct, Evan.  My recall was guest stars were
    introduced to the audience as part of the warm up so
    that their sudden appearance to the microphone
    wouldn't incite some sort of audible reaction from
    the audience. The "Mayor of the Town" Show I worked >
    on with Star Lionel Barrymore had announcer Ken
    Peters or Frank Marrtin warm up the audience in
    front of the stage's closed curtain which opened
    upon their introduction of Mr. Barrymore who because >
    of his arthritis was confined to his chair and
    exclusive boom microphone at a table on stage. All
    the other actors would used the microphones set up
    for them.

    Evan,Question No. 2. depended upon the story line
    somewhat which set the the situation for a show's
    microphone set up.
    Bill Murtough, a stellar sound engineer for CBS
    during my time there could explain just exactly the
    thought process involved in each show's microphone
    set up.

    Obviously a show such as CBS "I Was There," which
    used often stories involving crowd scenes would have
    more than one microphone for the many people heard
    rather than a story involving three men in a life raft
    lost at sea.  Also microphones using a telephoned
    voice were designated a 'filter' microphone and the
    actor had to use it especially for that effect to be
    broadcast otherwise actors weren't restricted to
    which microphones they could use. Again Bill could
    tell
    you the technical setup used to 'balance' the audio
    inputs from each microphone.

    As for "weighty actors" like Harold Peary to have
    overhead craned microphones? No, but Bill again may
    have some stories about hefty actors to tell. *grin*

    CAB

    --
    conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
    Encino, CA
    Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:21:03 -0400
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi friends,

    	Here is this week's line-up for the week of 10-3-04 on my Olde Tyme
    Radio
    [removed] Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
    Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
    Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
    streaming RealAudio at [removed]

    Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

    We look forward to having you join us!

    	Jerry

    Here's this week's lineup:

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

    MY FRIEND IRMA
    Episode 2  4-18-47  "The Prize Fighter"
    Stars: Marie Wilson, Cathy Lewis, John Brown and Leif Erickson
    Music: The Sportsmen and Lud Gluskin and His Orchestra

    THE DINAH SHORE SHOW
    11-16-44  "Football"
    Guest: Charles Laughton
    With: Robert Emmett Dolan and His Orchestra and The Joseph Lilley Chorus

    THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES
    12-11-61  "Adventure of the Resident Patient"
    BBC Production aired in the United States
    Stars: Norman Shelley and Carlton Hobbs

    THE BURNS AND ALLEN SHOW
    Episode 24  3-13-40  "GRACIE ALLEN FOR PRESIDENT" Part 3
    This is the Third of a 14-part mini series, which we will be airing over the
    next 11 weeks.
    CBS    HINDS HONEY AND ALMOND CREAM    Wednesdays 7:30 - 8:00pm
    STARS: George Burns and Gracie Allen
    WITH: Frank Parker
    ANNOUNCER: Truman Bradley
    MUSIC: Ray Noble's Orchestra
    =======================================

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

    THE GREEN HORNET
    NBC    12/29/40    "Phony Testing"
    stars Al Hodge as Britt Reid/The Hornet.

    ON YOUR MARK
    WOR (Mutual NYC)    10/06/48
    Bud Collyer is the MC of a New York City daily quiz show.

    THE LONE RANGER
    1950's- Original General Mills Promotional 78 RPM discs "Origin of The
    Ranger" and "Finding Silver" stars Brace Beemer, John Todd and Fred Foy.
    ======================================

    THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

    It's a program well calculated to keep you in ... SUSPENSE in
    EPISODE NET 20 of The Glowing Dial as we present 5 of our favorite episodes
    of radio's outstanding theatre of thrills, "Suspense".

    Suspense - "Sorry, Wrong Number"
    originally aired May 25, 1943 on CBS
    (this is the Armed Forces Radio Service version)
    Starring: Agnes Moorehead.
    Sponsor: Sustained

    Suspense - "Fugue In C Minor"
    originally aired June 1, 1944 on CBS
    Starring: Vincent Price, Ida Lupino.
    Sponsor: The Roma Wine Company of Fresno, California

    Suspense - "The House In Cyprus Canyon"
    originally aired December 5, 1946 on CBS
    Starring: Robert Taylor, Cathy Lewis, Hand Conreid, Jim Backus, Howard Duff,
    Paul Frees, Wally Maher.
    Sponsor: Roma Wine Company of Fresno, California

    Suspense - "On A Country Road"
    originally aired November 16, 1950 on CBS
    Starring: Cary Grant, Cathy Lewis, Jeanette Nolan, Harlow Wilcox voicing the
    commercials.
    Sponsor: Autolite

    Suspense - "Zero Hour"
    originally aired May 18, 1958 on CBS
    Starring: Evelyn Rudie, Ellen Morgan.
    Sponsor: co-sponsored (this episode has no commercials)
    ====================================

    Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
    shows.

                Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
      Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:21:13 -0400
    From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  radio writers

    John Crosby of the New York Herald Trib was one of the
    most famous radio critics of the 40s-50s; a book of
    his best columns, Out of the Blue, is a classic.  Ben
    Gross of the NY Daily News was perhaps the first
    nationally known radio critic and Jack Gould of the NY
    Times, better known as a TV critic, got his start
    writing about radio. On the west coast, Dwight Newton
    of the San Francisco Examiner, Terry O'Flaherty of the
    Chronicle and Cecil Smith of the LA Times were also
    well known radio critics of that era.

    Michael Berger

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:24:04 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Halowe'en Program'mes
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    Hi Gang:

    My vote for a great Hallowe'en show is that Lucille Fletcher-scripted story on
    "Suspense" involving a creepy pipe organ which starred Vincent Price. The
    exact title "escapes" me.

    Yours in the eeeeeee-ther!

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:59:56 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Thanks, all

    I just wanted to offfer thanks to all who offered good wishes during my
    recent hospitalization -- I'm back home now and am making a
    slow-but-steady recovery. It'll probably be a while yet before I'm fully
    caught up on correspondence, to say nothing of back OTR-Digests, but be
    asssured all your kind thoughts were much appreciated.

    Elizabeth

    "The Original Amos 'n' Andy" -- Coming in Spring 2005 from McFarland & Co.
    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:20:13 -0400
    From: "Ken Lanza" <klanza@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Gildy's Blade
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    Re: Gildy's Blade:

    One was offered for sale on E-Bay a few years [removed]
    I dropped out of the bidding when it exceeded fourty dollars!

    regards,
    Ken Lanza
    klanza@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:20:38 -0400
    From: "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed];
    To: "OLD TIME RADIO LIST (E-mail)" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  A Benny birthday

    Jell-O all,

    I will be 39 this January and I want to have a birthday with a Jack Benny
    theme. I am looking for ideas and ways to make it a Benny day. If anyone has
    any ideas please post them. You're only 39 once you know, well maybe more
    than once.

    Thanks
    Chris

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 10:43:02 -0400
    From: ABCDiehl@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Rodney Dangerfield

    In an interview I had with comedian Robert Klein who became friends with
    Rodney
    when Klein was getting his start in stand-up,  Klein said  Dangerfield  once
    told him he took his name from the phone book.  I see that another OTR posting
    believes a nightclub
    owner chose the name. Will we ever know?  One thing's for certain, in death
    Rodney Dangerfield is now getting a lot of respect!   He was unique, or as
    Klein said "a brilliant pioneer in comedy."
    Bill Diehl
    ABC Radio Network
    New York

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:12:03 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lux Radio Theatre

    Someone asked the question what star appeared on the most Lux Radio Theatre
    broadcasts. I must admit I did not do the research on this , someone else did.
    Eddie Marr is the all time champ having appeared over 400 times, but as far as
    the Hollywood stars go, Fred MacMurray appeared 27 times and Loretta Young
    appeared 26 times. They have to distinction of appearing more than any other
    Hollywood star.
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:12:15 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  10-8 births/deaths

    October 8th births

    10-08-1881 - Oscar O'Shea - Peterboro, Canada - d. 4-6-1960
    actor: John Marshall "Those We Love"
    10-08-1897 - Rouben Mamoulian - Tiflis, Georgia, Russia - d. 12-4-1987
    film director: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
    10-08-1908 - Albert Matz - NYC - d. 4-26-1985
    screen writer: (One of Hollywood Ten) "Words at War"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-08-1918 - Ron Randell - Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-08-1919 - Gabriel Dell - Barbados, British West Indies - d. 7-3-1988
    actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"

    October 8th deaths

    01-09-1916 - Fernando Lamas - Buenos Aires, Argentina - d. 10-8-1982
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-26-1913 - William Prince - Nichols, NY - d. 10-8-1996
    actor: "Crime Does Not Pay"; "Philco Radio Playhouse"; "Somerset Maugham
    Theatre"
    02-04-1895 - Nigel Bruce - Ensenada, Mexico - d. 10-8-1953
    actor: Doctor John H. Watson "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes"
    02-18-1892 - Wendell Willkie - Elwood, IN - d. 10-8-1944
    presidential candidate: "Information Please"
    04-29-1914 - Derek Guyler - Wallasey, Merseyside, England - d. 10-8-1999
    actor: "It's That Man Again"
    05-01-1942 - Joan Hackett - NYC - d. 10-8-1983
    actress: "CBS Mystery Theatre"
    07-23-1908 - Karl Swenson - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-8-1978
    actor: Lorenzo Jones "Lorenzo Jones"; Lord Henry Brinthrope "Our Gal Sunday"
    08-02-1900 - Helen Morgan - Danville, IL - d. 10-8-1941
    hostess, singer: "Helen Morgan, Songs"; "Broadway Melodies"; "Fred Allen Show"
    08-30-1887 - Eduardo Ciannelli - Island of Ischia, Italy - d. 10-8-1969
    actor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-06-1886 - Gus Kahn - Koblenz, Germany - d. 10-8-1941
    lyricist: "Good News of 1938"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:13:01 -0400
    From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  old microphone/lamp?

    Steve Salaba comments:

>     OK, here's a puzzler. I've decided that I'd like to have a table lamp that
>     looks like it was made out of an old fashioned microphone. Or maybe made
>     from a *real* old microphone. It just seems to present many possibilities
>     for jokes about covert recording ("Just speak into the lamp") as well as
>     the OTR reference. My search of the internet has come up with nothing. Have
>     any of you heard of or seen such a thing? I can always get an old mike and
>     make one myself, I suppose, but ready-made would be nicer.

    There were early radio speakers that were designed as lamps but I have
    never seen a microphone as such. In the early days of broadcasting
    sometimes the microphone would be disguised as a lamp as some performers
    had severe mic fright and couldn't perform in front of one. Vintage
    broadcast microphones go for pretty steep prices, especially the classis
    RCA ribbon velocity microphones like the 44 and 77 series which can go
    for over $1,000. Older carbon button mics of the late 1920's early 30's
    also command equally high prices. Modifying one to turn it into a lamp
    would destroy it's vintage value.

    You might check ebay as there are many vintage mics offered and you
    might find something not to expensive that would do, also check under
    novelty radios, there were some transistor sets that were built into
    plastic reproductions of old mics.

    Bill H.

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    Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:34:54 -0400
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Benny

         I heard that Jack Benny had a problem with
    his hands.  This so-called problem, issue, or whatever
    precipitated his trademark in the industry of saying,
    'Well!' and cradling his chin in his hand. Was it
    because he was unsure of what to do with them? Did
    this start on radio?  Did it begin after he was broadcast
    on television and could be seen by his audience?  Did
    this issue ever exist to begin with?

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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