Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #10
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 1/8/2003 3:03 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 10
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Dragnets old and new - article        [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      Re: News Broadcasts                   [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
      log                                   [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Re: Real Audio Converter              [ Paulurbahn@[removed] ]
      Inner Sanctum Book                    [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Inner Sanctum Mysteries               [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ lois@[removed] ]
      OTR SCAM?                             [ "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed]. ]
      First chapter of WORDS AT WAR         [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Re: Perry Mason                       [ John <JOHN007@[removed]; ]
      Perry Mason                           [ David Lowell <davlor1@[removed]; ]
      The Aldrich Family                    [ Jerry Bechtel <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Re: Imagination Theater               [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
      48 Indians on Radio                   [ "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:30:13 -0500
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dragnets old and new - article

    Excellent article in today's Washington Post:

    [removed]

    There's actually a picture of Jack Webb and Bart Yarborough, a fair amount
    of mentions that DRAGNET was once a radio series, and nary a mistake in the
    text.  It also deals with the upcoming Dick Wolf version, which
    unfortunately (based on the quotes from Exec Producer Walon Green) looks
    like it will be less than advertised.  Green practically confesses that the
    show is called "Dragnet" because of the market value of the title.

    Michael

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    Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:28:07 -0500
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: News Broadcasts

    Today I ran across a tape I had completely forgotten about. Back in the
    late 1970's or very early 1980's, I had put together a tape made up of News
    Broadcast.

    While search through my collection for an dramatic radio shows I may have
    missed, I realized that I had recorded a number of news broadcast that took
    place before the shows I had been recording. Some where those short Monitor
    spots and others were the top of the hour 5 minute news shows.

    So, today, someone had phoned in an order for a few CDs and one of the
    catalog numbers was this News Broadcast tape. Since it had never been
    converted to CD, it gave me a chance to listen to it. There was a short
    clip of Ronald Reagan saying that Nixon should not resign. News stories of
    problems in the middle east. And then there was the recording I had made
    the day Kennedy was shot.

    I forgot that I did that. It starts with the voice of President Eisenhower
    talking to reporters and saying that if needed he would be on call. Then it
    is followed by reports of people who were in Texas and saw the shooting.

    I haven't gone through all of it yet. Tomorrow I'll play the last hour, but
    you talk about bring back the past. I remember when the news of the
    shooting was first broadcast and I was so stunned that I didn't even think
    of turning on the tape recorder.

    Then as the day went on and I realized that both radio and TV were going to
    do continuous coverage, I put a tape in my recorder and started rolling. I
    may have a lot more than I included on this tape, but even if I don't this
    is like one of those "day in history" recordings. I just let the recorder
    run as reporter after reporter was switch on the air.

    I remember some discussing on this list a while back of the assassination
    coverage and at the time I forgot that I had recorded some of it.

    Fred
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:18:54 -0500
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  log

    Hi Everybody, a friend ask me to help him find a log of radio shows of Amos
    and Andy, and Abbott and Costelo.  Can any body help?  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:49:49 -0500
    From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Real Audio Converter

    I have some OTR shows in RA and RAM format. Is there a program that will
    convert these to MP3 or WAV files?
    Paul Urbahns

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 01:16:40 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Inner Sanctum Book

    NOW MY SHAMELESS PITCH:
    In answer to a few e-mailed queries the past few weeks, my up-coming book,
    INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES: BEHIND THE CREAKING DOOR is going to be released in
    April (this is definite!), and set to premiere at Bob Burchett's Cincinatti
    Old-Time Radio Convention. (E-mail Bob at haradio@[removed] for info about
    the convention).

    Everyone who has pre-ordered their copy of the officially authorized INNER
    SANCTUM book during the past few months to take advantage of that "pay no
    postage" offer (the special offer expired in September), please feel assured
    your book WILL be mailed to you - I'm only awaiting it's arrival so I can
    start mailing the copies to you.  A few people have expressed the concern
    that they paid back in August and September, but failed to notice the fliers
    that stated it would be released in April.  Please have patience, I know
    it's been a few months, but it's only a matter of weeks now.  The book is
    worth the wait.

    Statistics:  The book is about 450 pages thick and covers all aspects of the
    program, from the paperback and hardcover mystery novels, the radio series,
    the television series, the movies (documented by Gregory William Mank),
    mystery magazine, and other assortments regarding the INNER SANCTUM. Yes, it
    includes an episode guide for both radio and television, with plots, casts,
    writer credits, etc.
    Cost is $[removed] plus $[removed] postage.
    Inner Sanctum Book, Po Box 189, Delta, PA 17314.
    [removed] will not sell the book until mid-to-late April (for all you book
    worms who like to buy only from Amazon), and as far as I understand,
    Amazon's retail price for the Inner Sanctum book is supposed to be something
    around ten dollars more than most [removed]
    Just clearing the air so anyone else who was intending to e-mail and ask
    "where's my book?" can feel assured - it's coming soon.
    Martin Grams, Jr.

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 01:18:11 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Inner Sanctum Mysteries

    Joe Mackey wrote:

>     1941 - The NBC Blue network presented the first installment of The Squeaky
>     Door. You might not remember the show by its original title, but how about
>     when it became known as Inner Sanctum?

    NO, NO, NO . . . I have come across many reference books that continue to
    list INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES as THE CREAKING DOOR, and in this error (which
    I'm sure isn't Joe's fault - just the source that supplied that error to
    Joe) "The Squeaky Door"????

    For the record:
    Those reference works are very much mistaken.  The name of the program, from
    the very start was INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY, because when Himan Brown came up
    with the concept of the show in late 1940, he contacted Simon & Schuster who
    was then publishing a series of monthly mystery novels under that by-line,
    asking if he could borrow the name "Inner Sanctum Mysteries" from them.  The
    arrangement was mutual for both parties.  Himan Brown could use the name as
    long as one of S&S's mystery novels was "pitched" to the radio audience
    after each drama.  This boosted sales of the Inner Sanctum novels, which in
    turn, helped expand the listening audience for the radio program.

    Those mystery novels were first published in 1930 (three in that year), and
    by 1941, twelve novels were published every year, one for every month.  Such
    big-name authors as Craig Rice, Cornell Woolrich, and Anthony Boucher had
    their mystery novels released as part of the "Inner Sanctum" byline.
    (George Sanders and Gypsy Rose Lee had a couple released but those were
    actually ghost-written.)

    To help clarify:
    The same concept (a creaking door opening and closing each program) was done
    in Australia beginning January 28, 1952. Months after the program began
    airing in Australia, there was a dispute about the fees due for the program,
    since copyrighted scripts from the American program were being dramatized
    without permission from both the author or the creators, so Macquarie (the
    company producing the Australian series) got out of the situation by
    renaming the program "The Creaking Door." Everything remained the same, even
    using new original stories by Australian scriptwriters and adaptations of
    short stories by Edgar Allan Poe and Robert Louis Stevenson, so [removed]
    copyrights would not be infringed upon.

>     >From 1962 to 1963, the English Radio Service also began broadcasting a few

    of the scripts from the American series.  Very little is known about this
    broadcast run.  Subsequently, a South African version of this series was
    produced three years after entitled THE CREAKING DOOR, and this program was
    heard from 1966 to 1968.  Many of these recordings circulate among
    collectors and are popularly listened to (though all of those scripts were
    originally written for the 66-68 program, they didn't use scripts from the
    American series).

    Going back to the American INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES series (which was for
    many years actually entitled INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY - note the actual title),
    Inner Sanctum was never intended to be called The Squeaky Door or The
    Creaking Door here in the States.  If only reference books would correct
    that . . .

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 04:52:07 -0500
    From: lois@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

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    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
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    Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
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    and Me

    Lois Culver
    KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
    KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
    and widow of actor Howard Culver

    (For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:33:38 -0500
    From: "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR SCAM?

    G'Day folks, just a heads up.  There have been several people who have
    contacted me regarding a person/persons in Australia offering some very hard
    to get shows from South Africa.  I have also heard from several people who
    have tried to conduct trades with the person/persons involved.  Please be
    careful and do not release any material important to you until the other
    person has honoured their part of the bargain.  Anyone concerned they may be
    in discussions already, can contact me direct.

    I have not been contacted directly by the person/persons involved and have
    no direct knowledge hence my reluctence to name names and give more detail.
    They are also offering a large number of Australian shows that I put into
    general circulation in 2001 as well as the usual George Edwards shows that
    everyone has.

    Ian Grieve
    Australian OTR Group

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:34:24 -0500
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  First chapter of WORDS AT WAR

    	Chapter 1 of WORDS AT WAR can be viewed at Scarecrow Press's, website.
    If you decide to order the book, you can save $5 over the publisher's
    price by ordering it from: Khovard@[removed].

    	To view the chapter, click on:
    [removed];Site=scarecrowpress&Title=Words%20at%20War

    							Howard Blue

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:16:56 -0500
    From: John <JOHN007@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Perry Mason

    The discussion on Perry Mason prompts me to give the radio series
    another try.
    I find very interesting the comments that in the radio series Mason was
    much more of a detective.  I have recently been viewing the TV shows on
    the Hallmark channel, and I have noted with great enthusiasm that the
    earliest shows feature Mason as much more of a detective/investigator
    than just a courtroom attorney, as he became as the TV series
    progressed.

    Some of the early shows feature him stumbling onto bodies in apartments,
    out and about (on location!) questioning people, [removed] a much more
    "active" Mason (and a lively and interesting program) than in later
    episodes in the series which were generally done in the studio and
    featured about half of each episode in the courtroom.  I seem to recall
    one of those early TV episodes that barely has a courtroom at all --
    only about the last five minutes just to wrap things up.   Quite
    different from the later episodes.

    So it's very intriguing to learn that this was also true of the radio
    series!

    Happy Listening!
    John

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:42:36 -0500
    From: David Lowell <davlor1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Perry Mason

    I've read many many of the Perry Mason mysteries over the years and well
    remember the afternoon radio program, which I would hear in the afternoon
    when I was not in school.  I really feel that the actor who portrayed Perry
    Mason on radio sounded like I would have expected the Perry Mason of the
    novels to have sounded.  I was quite disappointed in Raymond Burr's
    portrayal.  I would have expected a more suave personality with a lot more
    warmth; Raymond Burr was humorless and rather cold.  And of course, he
    became quite heavy over the years, again not fitting the tall, handsome
    Perry Mason of the novels.  In later years, Raymond Burr's portrayal of
    Parry Mason as a judge was more acceptable.
    David Lowell

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:43:30 -0500
    From: Jerry Bechtel <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Aldrich Family

    Help. I've been trying to collect the entire series of The Aldrich
    Family and have run out of resources. As a kid I never missed an episode
    of the Aldrich Family nor Archie Andrews. I have found 216 titles and
    have recorded 166 of them for my listening pleasure. I would REALLY
    appreciate anyone who could lead me in the direction of increasing my
    collection. I've only been able to find 14 Archie Andrews shows but I
    think there must be more out there somewhere. I guess I'm old fashioned
    but I prefer to settle in with my newspaper and an evening beside my
    replica old radio with a built in cassette player. Terry & the Pirates,
    Superman, Captain Midnight, Tom Mix, The Aldrich Family, Inner Sanctum,
    Life of Riley, Lights Out, then Gangbusters! Followed by a cup of
    Ovaltine! What an evening! The youngsters don't know what they missed!

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:43:04 -0500
    From: BryanH362@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:  Imagination Theater

    Jim French wrote:

>     We're celebrating around here because we are
>     moving to a bigger station with a program format much
>     more agreeable to radio drama here in Seattle, KIXI-AM
>     880.

    KIXI is a great station . Bob Brooks (the program director ) is a really nice
    guy and he has been a very successful program director from what I hear. Our
    OTR club in Seattle
    (The Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound) has been allowed to produce a few
    radio dramas that KIXI has broadcast. It was fun working with the team at
    KIXI. Bob Brooks appears to have had his appetite wet for radio drama . I am
    sure he is more than thrilled to have the relationship with Jim French and
    Imganination Theater. It really is a good match. Jim French
    and the group  provide a real high quality production.
    I hope to hear some of the fine KIXI staff utilized on Imagination Theater.
    Frank Shiers, Dan Murphy and Bob Brooks have appeared in radio dramas and all
    are great! It will be really great to hear Twilight Zone and Imagination
    Theater back to back .

    The only bad thing ?  The station Jim French left also aired
    When Radio Was.  I wonder if WRW  will find a new home also?

    -Bryan

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:29:23 -0500
    From: "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  48 Indians on Radio

    Yesterday Brian Johnson talked about the two different stadiums that the
    Indians played at. He talked about how, that when they became a very good
    team they played at Municipal Stadium. The Indians won the AL Pennet and the
    World Series in 1948. Does anyone know which radio station carried the Tribe
    in 48? I Have
    not been able to find that piece of info. For the record,  I have a copy of
    Game 5 (in Cleveland) and Game 6 (in Boston) on CD of the 1948 world series.
    As well as a memorial tribute to the great Lou Boudreau. If anyone is
    interested, you can contact me off the digest.
    Best regards,
    Mike Ray

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