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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 378


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Harry Lime log update
	 ADMINISTRIVIA: GE Superradio III 
	 Breakdown of Club Fees
	 Club controversy
	 X-1/Dimension X

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:08:13 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Harry Lime log update
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

                 T H E   L I V E S   O F   H A R R Y   L I M E
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                                  1952 - 1953?
 
 
     First Show: ??-??-52                              Last Show: ??-??-??
     Number Shows: 52                              Audition Show: the movie
 
 
     Show Description:
 
     THE LIVES OF HARRY LIME was the radio follow-up to the movie THE THIRD
     MAN.  "The Third Man" is Harry Lime, a manipulative black market drug
     dealer.  Graham Greene's classic thriller became a black and white
     classic film in 1949.  
 
     Orson Welles played both the movie and the radio Harry Lime.  The shows
     open with a gunshot and this Welles monologue:
 
        "That was the shot that killed Harry Lime.  He died in a sewer 
         beneath Vienna, as those of you know who saw the movie, 'The 
         Third Man'.  Yes, that was the end of Harry Lime but not the 
         beginning.  Harry Lime had many lives and I can recount all of 
         them. How do I know? Very simple, because my name is Harry Lime."
 
     The haunting theme music is performed by Anton Karas on an unaccompained
     zither.
 
 
     List Comments:
 
     This was a syndicated show and none of the catalogs list broadcast
     dates.  Fortunately, many listed show numbers, so the shows could
     be listed in broadcast order.  Show titles were not announced at the
     start of shows, so many show titles came from what was written on
     transcription disks.  Most sources agree on titles.  Those titles
     that could not be matched up and had no show number are listed at the
     end of the list and are identified by lack of series number.
 
 
     List:
 
               Num  Title                                 Src Key
               ---  ------------------------------------  ---------
                 1  Too Many Crooks                       1 34 678
                 2  See Naples and Live                   1 3 5678
                 3  Clay Pidgeon                          1 34 678
                 4  Ticket to Tangier                     1 3 5678
                 5  Voodoo                                1 3 5678
                 6  The Bohemian Star                     1 3 5678
                 7  Love Affair                           1 3 5678
                 8  Rogue's Holiday                       1 3 5678
                 9  Work of Art                           1 345678
                10  Operation Music Box                   1 345678
                11  Golden Fleece                         1 345678
                12  Blue Bride                            1 345678
                13  Every Frame Has a Silver Lining       1 345678
                14  Mexican Hat Trick                     12345678
                15  Art is Long and Lime Is Fleeting      1 345678
                16  In Persuit of a Ghost                 1 345678
                17  Horse Play                            1 345678
                18  Three Farthings For Your Thoughts     1 345678
                19  The Third Woman                       1 345678
                20  An Old Morrish Custom                 1 345678
                21  It's A Knockout                       123 5678
                22  Two Is Company                         2  5678
                23  Cherchez La Gem                       1 345678
                24  Hands of Glory                        1 345678
                25  The Double Double Cross               1  45678
                26  Five Thousand Pengoes and a Kiss      1  45678
                27  Dark Enchantress                      1   5678
                28  Earl on Troubled Waters               1  45678
                29  The Dead Candidate                    1  45678
                30  It's In The Bag                       1   5678
                31  Hyacinth Patrol                       1  45678
                32  Turnabout is Foul Play                1  45678
                33  Violet, Sweet Violet                  1  45678
                34  Faith, Lime and Charity               1  45678
                35  Pleasure Before Business              1  4 678
                36  Fool's Gold                           1  45678
                37  Man of Mystery                        12 45 78
                38  Painted Smile                         12 45 78
                39  Harry Lime Joins The Circus           1  45 78
                40  Suzie's Cue                           1  45 78
                41  Viva La Chance                        1     78
                42  The Elusive Verneer                   1     78
                43  Murder on the Riveria                 1  45 78
                44  Pearles of Bohemia                    1  45 78
                45  A Night in a Harem                    1  4  78
                46  Blackmail is a Nast Word              1  4  78
                47  Professor Regrets                     1  4  78
                48  Hard Way                              1  4  78
                49  Paris Is Not The Same                 1  4  78
                50  Honymoon                              1  4  78
                51  The Blue Caribou                            78
                52  Greek Meets Greek                           78
 
                    El Zorro                              1
                    The Racetrack                         1
 
 
     Information Sources:
 
     The information above was obtained from the following OTR vendor
     and club catalogs.  Contact them directly for more information.
 
         Key  Source
         ---  ----------------------------------------------------------
          1   North American Radio Archives (NARA), 134 Vincewood Dr.,
              Nicolasville, KY 40356.
          2   Edward J. Carr, 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19512.
          3   Society for the Preservation of Entertainment Radio,
              Variety And Comedy (SPERDVAC), PO Box 7177, Van Nuys, CA
              91409-7177
          4   Radio Historical Association of Colorado, [removed] Box 1908,
              Englewood, CO 80150
          5   Steve Kelez, Radio Showcase, [removed] Box 4357, Santa Rosa, CA
              95402
          6   Vintage Broadcasts. 42 Bowling Green, Staten Island, NY
              10314
          7   Great American Radio, PO Box 504 Genesee, MI 48437
          8   Radio Memories, 1600 Wewoka St., North Little Rock, AR
              72116
 
     Although I have had favorable dealings with some of the above, to be
     fair to all, this is not an endorsement of them. I receive nothing by
     mentioning them.
 
 
     Feedback: (Thanks!)
 
     There was some discussion in the Internet OTR Digest wheather Harry
     Lime was dead or not. The opening says he was killed and Christopher 
     L. Tumber stated but as Marty Tabnik pointed out, "Did YOU see the 
     body? <snip> ... remember what a rogue he is!"  I guess one has to 
     read the book, see the movie and, most definately, listen to the 
     radio shows. :-)
 
 
     Last Update: 11-10-95
 
 
     Although I retain copyright, this log may be freely copied provided
     that the text is unchanged.  Please share it with fellow OTR lovers.
 
     I would greatly appreciate any error corrections or additional 
     information.  Please send them to Frank Passage, 109 Elmwood Road, 
     Verona, NJ 07044 (e-mail passage@[removed]).

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:38:25 -0600
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ADMINISTRIVIA: GE Superradio III 
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Folks interested in reading more about the GE SuperRadio III can access a GE
SuperRadio III FAQ at my WWW site.  Info also there about antennas, strange
electronic noises, stations rebroadcasting OTR, and things that go zap in
the night.

New and old subscribers to the OTR Digest may want to visit the WWW site,
and try to find a cracker barrel or a free cuppa coffee (remember them?)
Hopefully, you -will- find some information of value.

Recent addition:  an easier way to find publishers of OTR - related
newsletters.  Publishers / editors are invited to send me info on their
publication, and I'll add it to an appropriate place on my WWW page.

If your web browser supports forms, check my (yeech) OTR Survey.  Opinions
gathered there go far to help restructure my WWW page.

Lou
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 18:31:01 -0500
From: aa993@[removed] (Christopher L. Tumber)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Breakdown of Club Fees
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Wayne asks:
 
>Can someone post the membership cost, lending cost, anount of shows, and 
>whatever else cost to the Old Time Radio clubs like SPERDVAC, RHAL (of 
>Colorado) and any others.
 
RHAC $25 to join, $15 annually to renew. Reels rent for $2, the equivalent in 
cassettes (4 or 6 cassettes) rent for $[removed] (Plus $1 per for Canadians). 
Books are $2 each a month. Scripts, Logs and reference info is $.85 for the 
first page, $.10 per additional page per item. RHAC's catalog is slightly 
more than fifteen hundred reels. (Somewhere around six to seven thousand 
hours I'd guess)
 
SPERDVAC is $25 to join, $15 annually to renew, plus $5 annually if you're not 
'Merican. Richard Novak recently posted the reel rates, but I'm afraid I 
don't remember them and am looking for additional info myself. The info I got 
with my membership inquiry says 7,000 hours available.
 
NARA is $20 per year. However, this doesn't seem to cover the cost of the
catalog ("New Members may purchase catalogs at printing cost"). Otherwise, I'm
not sure their fees either. They claim 20,000  *shows*, with 50,000 NBC
shows to be added.
 
If anyone who can expand on this, I'd appreciate it as [removed]

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:03:35 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Club controversy
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Everyone seems to be having so much fun these days attacking and defending
the different OTR clubs, I thought I'd join in.

The two biggest clubs are NARA and SPERDVAC. I don't belong to either. And
I'm gonna tell you why.

The major rap against NARA that I've heard (from more than one source) is
the quality of it's tape library. It isn't all it shoud be.

SPERDVAC's a little more complicated. it seems the club owns tapes that
only the elite are allowed to hear. If you're a plain, ordinary, garden
variety type of member you have no access to these tapes. neither does
anyone else. I first heard this from another hobbyist and Jay Hickerson
seems to verufy it in his "Ultimate Guide To OTR". Personally I can do
without this sort of attitude. I've encountered it before when I colledcted
16mm sound films. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now. I'd much
rather be known as the guy who gave "Stairway To the Sun" to the hobby
than as the guy who directed the tapes to be buried with him.

I do belong to two OTR clubs. RLL and RHAC. I'm quite satisfied with both.
RLL is small but growing. It's rates are reasonable, rental for cassettes
is only fifty cents each and you borrow up to thirty cassettes at a time.
The club also publishes one of the better OTR newsletters going. You get
it with your membership.

RHAC is a larger club but still charges a reasonable rental rate of $[removed]
per four cassettes. Furthermore the club treats it's members quite well.
On one of my recent orders I discovered a cassette whose 'B' side was
totally blank. When I returned the tapes I put a note in the box informing
the librarian of the problem. The other week he sent me the tape, with
both sides, and told me to keep it. He had made up the cassette especially
for me and sent it to me at no cost. He didn't have to do that, I would
have been satisfied to be able to copy the corrected tape without
spending the $[removed] again. It's gestures like this that make one appreciate
the club even more. Another incident. A friend of mine who joined RHAC on
my recommendation got all fouled up on her first order. Dick King
graciously took care of it for her, again at no cost to her. I really
wonder if the big, national clubs extend this sort of service to their
members. I can't guess if they do, but maybe some other digest members can.

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:55 EST
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: X-1/Dimension X
Message-Id: <m0tE4Dw-000JmUC@[removed]>

>It's sometimes difficult to tell whether an X-1 intro has been dubbed onto a
>repeat script from DimensionX just to fill out an X-1 collection. The
>DimensionX scripts used during the X-1 series were newly performed for X-1,
>sometimes with identical casts, and sometimes not.  It is possible that NBC
>rebroadcast an occasional DimensionX performance as an X-1, but I doubt it.
> My guess is that DimensionX's and X-1's that appear to be identical probably
>have intros and outros spliced on. Anyone know for sure?
>

There were 3 X-1 shows that were actually REBROADCASTS of Dimension X
episodes. These were "Perigi's Wonderful Doll" - the 1/18/56 version (there
was an earlier one on X-1 that is original to that series); "The Parade" -
1/25/56; and the dual broadcast "There Will Come Soft Rains" and "Zero Hour"
- 12/5/56. All others were original to the X-1 series though some were
REMAKES of previous Dimension X scripts.  The first 35 episodes of except
one were taken from the Dimension X script collection. That one exception
was "The Cold Equations" story by Tom Godwin. Beginning with episode 36, X-1
formed an agreement with Galaxy Magazine in which the magazine would supply
stories from their magazine to be used for scripting by NBC. This agreement
was in the form of a $50/story cost in exchange for the "in cooperation
[removed]" message.  NBC also was given an ad in the magazine for the series.
No editorial control was given to Galaxy.  Some of the stories, as with the
Dimension X series were original scripts, mostly from the pens of George
Lefferts and Ernest Kinoy.

Generally, X-1 had 4 openings over the run of the series. All began with
that rising frequency as the announcer counted down, then the blastoff (as
someone said, from the RCA recording) combined with the voices. There is not
enough room to detail the openings except to say that the first included the
countdown in full, [removed] X MINUS 1, etc., the second was X MINUS 5,4,3, etc.
without the Minus until 1, the third included the "Street & Smith" message,
and the 4th included the "Galaxy Magazine" message.

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