Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #286
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 9/21/2005 3:41 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 286
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OTR Fan Gets Radio Show               [ seandd@[removed] ]
      Phil Harris - Wikipedia, the free en  [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      FRANK DE VOL                          [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Quick as A Flash                      [ "Karl Schadow" <bluecar91@[removed] ]
      PAUL WESTON                           [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      GLENN STRANGE                         [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      DIRTY SATURDAY                        [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Second Oldtime Radio Symposium via a  [ "Robert Acosta" <boacosta@[removed] ]
      OTR research                          [ Danica Stein <danicas@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      New Orleans births                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      9-21 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Question on Ron Lackmann OTR Encyclo  [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
      Lum and Abner storyline               [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
      "That's What I Like About the South"  [ littlejc2@[removed] ]
      That's What I Like [removed]           [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:13:22 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Fan Gets Radio Show

    The Billings Montanna Gazette profiles a new variety radio show in Wyoming inspired by the golden age of radio.  I post mostly because of the host's personal story of getting into OTR by listening to tapes on long family drives.

    Who among us did not play OTR tapes on family trips?

    He also cites Jack Benny and Red Skelton as influences and the reporter says the show has found an enthusiastic audience.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:28:42 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Phil Harris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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              Sandy
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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:32 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FRANK DE VOL

    De Vol did a lot of bit parts, in many movies -- usually comedic in
    nature.

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              Sandy
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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:32 -0400
    From: "Karl Schadow" <bluecar91@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Quick as A Flash

    I have two episodes of Quick as A Flash and would be happy to send dubs to
    Sandy, Fred and any others. Please contact me directly.
    The two episodes are from 1947. One features Bret Morrison as The Shadow
    (03-16-47) and the other film star Martha Vickers as Private Detective
    Phyllis Marlon(03-09-47).
    Quick as a Flash featured a great many diverse guest detectives over its
    seven-year run. Look for an upcoming article on this subject in the December
    issue of RADIO RECALL.
    Karl Schadow

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:33 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  PAUL WESTON

    Strange, both De Vol and Weston's names appear in the same post.  Weston
    was, of course, married to Jo Stafford.  There is NOTHING funnier than
    when they appeared as Jonathan & Darleene Edwards.  Jo sang off key --
    Weston hardly ever hit the correct note on the piano!  Cover shows 2
    right hands on a keyboard!!

    [removed]
              Sandy
    [removed]
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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:35 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  GLENN STRANGE

    Glenn's claim to fame, was playing the Frankenstein [or, Froonkinsteen
    -- Mel Brooks] monster in all the Universal flicks, with the exception of
    2 -- the original, which starred Karlof, and once, and the only time Lon
    Chaney Jr. played the roll.  I interviewed Glenn for a Creature Feature
    television show I produced.  Interesting background -- he started as a
    stunt man, or, as they call them, 'gags'  Asked him if his name appeared
    in the phone book as, Strange Glenn!

    [removed]
              Sandy
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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:36 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  DIRTY SATURDAY

    As long as I have 'gone into business' -- I have a copy of the Dirty
    Saturday [as it was known] dress rehearsal of Gunsmoke.  Conrad spins
    totally out of control, etc.  Send $[removed] to cover postage and CD, along
    with a self-addressed mailing label.

    [removed]
              Sandy
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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:37 -0400
    From: "Robert Acosta" <boacosta@[removed];
    To: "oldtime radio digest digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Second Oldtime Radio Symposium via audio
     conferencing September 24, 2005

    Hi Friends,
    We are very proud to announce that our second oldtime radio symposium via
    audio conferencing will be held on Saturday September 24, 2005, from 10 am
    to 2 pm Pacific coast time.  All you need is a computer and a microphone to
    participate in this interactive virtual convention.  If you wish, you may
    text chat as well.
    Featured on our program will be Dr. Dave parker who was a yound radio actor
    on the Lone Ranger.
    Larry Gassman, oldtime radio historian will moderate a discussion by The
    archie Andrews cast of Rosemary Rice who played Betty Cooper; Hal Stone who
    played jug Head jones and Bob hastings who played archie andrews.
    Martin Grams, jr., will discuss the acquisition of oldtime radio logues.
    Devon Wilkins, the Founder of the Canadian oldtime Radio Association will
    speak of their efforts to revive oldtime radio in Canada.
    harlan Zinck, the preservations Director of First Generation Radio archives
    will discuss his wonderful organization.
    Finally, Miss joanie leonard will lead a general discussion of oldtime
    radio.
    If you would like to see our program and get instructions on how to access
    the audio conference room, please write to Robert Acosta:
    boacosta@[removed].

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:38 -0400
    From: Danica Stein <danicas@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR research

    Martin said, in part:

>     As for research, I have always confirmed with staff what they have
>     exactly in their files and archives before making a trip to do
>     research, or send someone to do the research for me.  It's far too
>     expensive to make a trip for little info (hotel, gas, travel, food,
>     copy fees, etc.) Small tip for anyone interested:
>     phone the library ahead and ask them if they have more details about
>     their collections and holdings.

    I would add a few things to Martin's sage observations.  As a former
    library employee and researcher, I know that the person you get on the
    phone at the library may know a) very much, b) a little, or c)
    absolutely nothing about the collection. Also, a library clerk may know
    more than the head librarian ([removed] while the librarian is at committee
    meetings all day, the clerks are actually cataloging and/or handling
    the items in the collection). The information you get depends on the
    collection, who's answering the phone (anyone from the student worker
    who started yesterday, to the "old-timer" who's worked with the
    collection for ages), how interested the library employees are in the
    collection, etc. etc. etc. Also, many library departments have boxes of
    stuff that is uncataloged and possibly unlabeled. Someone who has been
    around a while and is actually interested in the "stuff" will be
    willing to see if what you want is there, especially if you've made
    them curious about your FASCINATING and wonderful project.

    Another [removed] library employees can be, shall we say, a little
    overly-protective about their collections. I never figured out why that
    is, except maybe it's a control thing. Anyway, if you are seriously
    looking for something, it helps A LOT to be kind, sweet, and nice, no
    matter what, and never demand [removed] for their help instead. If
    you keep hearing "no," or "we don't have that," gently find someone
    else to talk to. I've experienced someone saying they don't have
    something (when I suspect they really don't know, or they don't feel
    like looking, or they don't know where to look) just to get me off the
    phone. Of course there are many people who work in libraries who are
    helpful and knowledgeable and would do anything to help you. When you
    find that person, get his/her name and direct phone number! And
    certainly you can ask questions like "is there anyone there who is
    familiar with Jack Armstrong?" or "is there anyone there who has
    actually seen the scripts?" and so on, to help you find that helpful
    person.

    Danica

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:12:01 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:20:08 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  New Orleans births

    Because of the tragic events in New Orleans I thought that it would a good
    idea to list all those who were born there.

    01-13-1909 - Danny Barker - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-13-1994
    jazz guitar: "This Is Jazz"
    02-13-1900 - Wingy Manone - New Orleans, LA - d. 7-9-1982
    orchestra leader: "Saturday Night Swing Club"; "Young Man with a Band"
    02-26-1928 - Fats Domino - New Orleans, LA
    singer: "Guest Star"
    04-02-1923 - Gloria Henry - New Orleans, LA
    actress: "CBS Radio Workshop"
    05-06-1926 - Marguaarite Piazza - New Orleans, LA
    singer: "Encore"
    05-14-1897 - Sidney Bechet - New Orleans, LA - d. 5-14-1959
    soprano sax, composer: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
    06-14-1907 - Nappy Lamare - New Orleans, LA - d. 5-19-1988
    jazz guitarist: "The Bob Crosby Show"
    06-18-1906 - Ray Bauduc - New Orleans, LA - d. 1-8-1988
    drummer, composer: "The Bob Crosby Show"
    06-20-1905 - Lillian Hellman - New Orleans, LA - d. 6-30-1984
    author: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    06-23-1911 - Eddie Miller - New Orleans, LA - d. 4-1-1991
    saxaphone: "The Bob Crosby Show"
    07-03-1930 - Pete Fountain - New Orleans, LA
    dixieland clarinetist: "New Year's All-Star Parade of Bands"
    07-17-1906 - John Carroll - New Orleans, LA - d. 4-24-1979
    actor: "Hello Mom"; "Suspense"
    08-04-1901 - Louis Armstrong - New Orleans, LA - d. 7-6-1971
    trumpeter: "Pursuit of Happiness"; "Sealtest Village Store"; "Story of Swing"
    08-06-1900 - Tony Parenti - New Orleans, LA - d. 4-17-1972
    jazz clarinetist: "WNYC, NY Jazz Festival"
    08-30-1908 - Willie Bryant - New Orleans, LA - d. 2-9-1964
    host: "Night Life"
    09-03-1915 - Kitty Carlisle - New Orleans, LA
    singer: "Song Shop"; "RCA Magic Key"
    09-30-1924 - Truman Capote - New Orleans, LA - d. 8-25-1984
    author: "Cather: A Look of Remembrance"
    10-26-1911 - Mahalia Jackson - New Orleans, LA - d. 1-27-1972
    gospel singer: (The Angel of Peace) "Mahalia Jackson Show"
    11-07-1922 - Al Hirt - New Orleans, LA - d. 4-27-1999
    dixieland trumpeter: "Voices of Vista"; "The Navy Swings"; "Here's to Veterans"
    11-23-1888 - Al Bernard - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-6-1949
    singer: "Dutch Masters Minstrels"; "Molle Merry Minstrels"
    11-23-1925 - Jeffrey Hunter - New Orleans. LA - d. 5-27-1969
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-29-1913 - Harry Bartell - New Orleans, LA - d. 2-26-2004
    actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; "Adv of Sherlock Holmes";
    "Gunsmoke"
    12-03-1907 - Connee Boswell - New Orleans, LA - d. 10-11-1976
    singer: (The Boswell Sisters) "Kraft Music Hall"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"
    12-07-1912 - Louis Prima - New Orleans,LA - d. 8-24-1978
    jazz trumpeter: "You Can't Have Everything"; "Songs by Sinatra"; "The Navy
    Swings"
    12-10-1914 - Dorothy Lamour - New Orleans, LA - d. 9-21-1996
    singer, actress: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Front and Center"; "Sealtest
    Variety Show"
    12-21-1928 - Ed Nelson - New Orleans, LA
    actor: "Hollywood Theatre"
    12-25-1913 - Candy Candido - New Orleans, LA - d. 5-24-1999
    comedian: "Sealtest Village Store"; "Jimmy Durante Show"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:20:21 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-21 births/deaths

    September 21st births

    09-21-1866 - H. G. Wells - Bromley, England - d. 8-13-1946
    science fiction author: "A Discussion Between H. G. Wells and Orson Welles"
    09-21-1903 - Westbrook Van Voorhis - New Milford, CT - d. 7-13-1968
    announcer, narrator: "March of Time"
    09-21-1907 - Jack Mather - d. 8-15-1966
    actor: Cisco Kid "Cisco Kid"
    09-21-1909 - Nathaniel Curtis - New York City, NY - d. 4-6-1983
    writer: "You Can't Take It With You"
    09-21-1915 - Mac Benoff - New York City, NY - d. 11-16-1972
    writer: "The Mel Blanc Show"
    09-21-1921 - Gail Russell - Chicago, IL - d. 8-26-1961
    actress: "Screen Guild Theatre"

    September 21st deaths

    01-16-1878 - Harry Carey, Sr. - New York City, NY - d. 9-21-1947
    actor: "Lincoln Highway"; "Suspense"
    04-15-1907 - Theodore Granick - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-21-1970
    moderator: "American Forum of the Air"
    05-15-1916 - Bill Williams - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-21-1992
    actor: "Eternal Light"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-16-1892 - Osgood Perkins - West Newton, MA - d. 9-21-1937
    stage actor: "Flying Red Horse Tavern"
    06-13-1924 - Lee Millar - Oakland, CA - d. 9-21-1980
    actor: Bob Regent "Chandu the Magician"; "On Stage"; "NBC Presents: Short
    Story"
    07-09-1912 - John McQuade - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 9-21-1979
    actor: Charlie Wild "Charlie Wild, Private Detective"; Steve Lansing "Our Gal
    Sunday"
    07-25-1894 - Walter Brennan - Swampscott, MA - d. 9-21-1974
    actor: Grandpa Vanderhof "You Can't Take it with You"; Judge Roy Bean "Law
    West of the Pecos"
    08-20-1918 - Jacqueline Susann - Philadelphis, PA - d. 9-21-1974
    actress: Lola the Cigarette Girl "Morey Amsterdam Show"
    11-06-1910 - Donald Dickson - Clairton, PA - d. 9-21-1972
    singer: "Sealtest Party"; "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Blue Ribbon Town"
    12-10-1914 - Dorothy Lamour - New Orleans, LA - d. 9-21-1996
    singer, actress: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Front and Center"; "Sealtest
    Variety Show"
    xx-xx-1902 - Charles R. Jackson - d. 9-21-1968
    writer: "The Columbia Workshop"; "Sweet River"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:46:51 -0400
    From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Question on Ron Lackmann OTR Encyclopedia
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    I purchased an OTR encyclopedia titled "The Encyclopedia of American Radio an
    A-Z guide by Ron Lackmann. I was reading his introduction about his book and
    where obtain his information for is book. Mr. Lackmann explained he used old
    radio magazines of the past to for accuracy, but he did criticized OTR Books by
    Buxton and Owen "The Big Broadcast" and John Dunning's "Tune In Yesterday"
    for not being useful for accurate dates of programs, names, and being to
    inaccurate period.  Do any of the readers agree with his opinion?  I enjoy reading
    this book but I did notice his dates and times for different OTR shows are
    little different from the ones listed in another book I have title "The Golden Age
    of Radio " by J. David Goldin.  I do enjoy reading these books, but you as the
    reader want to know that, what you are reading is accurate.  I am only 34, so
    I can't argue about exactly what days a show really came.  Please share your
    opinion, or suggestion.

    Trina

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:06:37 -0400
    From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lum and Abner storyline
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    I posed the question of the missing Lum and Abner storyline to the president
    of the National Lum and Abner society. Their website is at
    [removed]  . He said

    On the question of the seemingly aborted L&A [removed] we may never know
    how that was resolved unless we locate the scripts for that period. The
    reason the Horlick's recordings end at that point is that the L&A show had
    moved from the Mutual Network back to NBC, and there was no longer any need
    to have transcriptions [removed] while they were on Mutual, the transcriptions
    were made available to other stations in areas where Mutual did not have an
    affiliate. Since NBC covered most of the USA, the show had a complete
    audience after the switch.

    Visit [removed] for OTR program title and date corrections

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:29:19 -0400
    From: littlejc2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "That's What I Like About the South"
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    In response to the query about the song "That's What I Like 'BOUT the South:"
    No, Phil Harris did not write the song.  However, it was his theme song for
    many years.  He had two recordings of it on Okeh and Victor.

    The song was written (words and music) by Andy Razaf (1895-1973) in 1944.
    Razaf  collaborated with Fats Waller on a number of popular songs,among them,
    "Ain't Misbehavin," "Honeysuckle Rose," "Blue Turnin' Grey Over You, "Black
    and Blue" and others.

    He also collaborated with Eubie Blake on one of the most beautiful songs ever
    written, IMHO, "Memories of You,." beautifully played by Doc Severinsen on
    one of Johnny Carson's last two shows.

    Though much of Razaf's output reflected the life of blacks in America, he is
    said to be among America's finest songwriters.

    Chester Littlejohn

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    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:30:16 -0400
    From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  That's What I Like [removed]

    ...OTR Digest!  Oh, and the song about the south.

    This is for Dan Hughes and his daughter.  No, Phil Harris did not write it.
    That's kind of like saying Jack Benny wrote "Spring Song", which I imagine
    many people think he did.  Or if not Benny, then Professeur le Blanc!

    "That's What I Like 'bout the South".  w/m by incredibly prolific and
    versatile Andy Razaf, 1944:

    The title was published with the apostrophe in "about", although the "a"
    appears in most recorded versions including records and scores (hundreds?) of
    radio programs sung by Phil Harris, who made it his themesong as I guess it
    was probably his first big seller.

    The song is thoroughly identified with Harris, as he has performed it on
    radio, television, in nightclubs and theaters, and recorded it twice at least
    - on Okeh and Victor.

    Most of the above courtesy of Robert Lissauer's Encyclopedia of Popular Music
    in America, with some additional asides by yours truly.    Bestus - Lee
    Munsick

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