Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #115
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 4/12/2005 6:30 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 115
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      NTR                                   [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
      Radio drama in 2000's                 [ "Stevenson, Graeme (FVAH)" <Graeme. ]
      Re: State's Copyright Law             [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      radio drama, grumble.                 [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
      radio drama, grumble                  [ Henry Howard <audiotheater@spamcop. ]
      Historic radio at Library of Congres  [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      OTR Phonograph Records                [ "Arthur Funk" <art-funk@[removed]; ]
      1945 OTR Debuts                       [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Once more into the [removed]          [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      OTR IN SEATTLE-JUNE 24-25             [ HRRMIKES@[removed] ]
      Jack Webb Book                        [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      RE: radio drama, grumble              [ "Paul Grieves" <paul@[removed]. ]
      WTIC's "The Golden Age of Radio       [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
      Re: Radio is all in the hearing       [ Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed]; ]
      Ipods for OTR?                        [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
      Radio Drama in the [removed]               [ "Morris Joseph" <mjoseph55@hotmail. ]
      Lone Ranger / Green Hornet - WZYZ SF  [ [removed]@[removed] ]
      It's A Joke Son                       [ William Atkinson <willatkinson@yaho ]
      OTR Commerical Scripts                [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
      4-12 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:05:18 -0400
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  NTR
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    Mark Kinsler wrote:

>     Well, why _isn't_ there any radio drama for the 2000's????

    Mark I suggest you check out [removed] first, then have Charlier
    direct you to the radio drama page he also oversees. There are a whole raft
    of modern audio drama groups out there producing new shows and doing their
    best to get them on the air. Haven't you heard of Carl Amari's Twlight Show
    program? New radio drama is out there Mark, you simply have to look for it.
    Larry Albert

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:05:30 -0400
    From: "Stevenson, Graeme (FVAH)" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio drama in 2000's

    Hi.

    I saw in the current digest that Mark Kinsler was complaining about the lack
    of current radio drama these [removed] anyone in the USA who thinks the same,
    they could try logging onto the BBC website where BBC Radio 4 carries dramas
    7 days per week.
    Best Wishes. Graeme Stevenson, Scotland, UK.

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:06:09 -0400
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: State's Copyright Law
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    At 08:12 PM 4/9/2005, Paul Gough wrote:

>     A New York court this week seems to have ruled that
>     pre-1972 recordings have common law copyright (in NY)
>     because they were excluded from the federal copyright
>     act and are NOT in the public domain.

    This is true for every state and therein lies the tangle of determining who
    is entitled to own a copyright in the absence of specific contract language
    between producers, writers and sponsors. It gets further confused when you
    consider there are two copyrights that apply to most radio shows--in a
    nutshell, the script and the performance. In almost every case, there is
    automatic copyright protection for every performing arts situation without
    formal registration. This is not new news, but has been the situation for a
    couple of decades. It is the crack in the confusion that has led some
    modern re-producers to "secure" licensed rights from ex-producers who never
    expected to be owners of copyrights in the first place. It's a nasty part
    of the modern side of the business that Charlie would rather not see
    hammered out in OTR Digest.

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:06:37 -0400
    From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  radio drama, grumble.

>     Well, why _isn't_ there any radio drama for the 2000's????

    Is this question for the US or for the rest of the world?  Also, is it just
    aimed at radio broadcasts or broadcasts over the Internet?
    There may be different answers based on what exactly you mean?

    Love as always, David Rogers

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:10:06 -0400
    From: Henry Howard <audiotheater@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  radio drama, grumble

    M Kinsler ask "What I'd like to know is if
    anyone knows any of the history of New Time Radio efforts [removed]"

    Rather than take up space here I'd invite any interested to join
    the radio drama list, also running on the lofcom server.

    The art form is alive, albeit not on the radio very often.
    There is even an annual workshop for training those that are
    interested in the filed.

    See joining instruction at the bottom of
    [removed]

              Henry Howard
    radiodrama digest moderator
         [removed]
       audio drama skills training

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:59 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Historic radio at Library of Congress

    Two of the most dramatic and historic radio events in Washington, DC
    will re-aired at the Library of Congress (LOC)  in a special
    presentation on Wednesday evening, April 20th, which is free to the
    public.

    The April 9, 1939 vocal concert of Marian Anderson, on the steps of the
    Lincoln Memorial for an audience of over 60,000, was held there after
    she was refused the use of Constitution Hall because she was a Negro.
    Her concert was heard by millions more on the radio and it became a key
    event in our civil rights history. Today it is rare to see, or hear,
    more than a few minutes of this historic concert. The LOC presentation
    will contain her full concert.

    On April 14, 1945 President Franklin Roosevelt's funeral procession in
    the capital was seen by thousands and heard by millions on the radio.
    Extensive highlights of that coverage, including Arthur Godfrey's
    emotional description from atop a building on the procession route,
    will be the second part of this presentation.  Godfrey at the time was
    a popular DC radio personality, but shortly thereafter became a
    national star with CBS.

    This historic radio presentation begins at 6:30 PM in the Mary Pickford
    Theater on the third floor of the James Madison Building of the LOC at
    the the intersection of First and Independence Avenues, [removed],
    Washington, DC. This event is sponsored in part by the Association of
    Recorded Sound Collections. For more details, contact Karen Fishman at
    (202) 707-5856.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:19:12 -0400
    From: "Arthur Funk" <art-funk@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR Phonograph Records

    Over time I've obtained some 33-1/3 albums of various OTR subjects, [removed],
    show episodes and openings of some shows.  I've been unable to listen to any
    of them because we haven't had a phonograph.  Recently I purchased one from
    Radio Shack and I'm happy.  However, my wife is concerned about our large
    record collection which survived Hurricane Andrew.  Many of the records are
    dirty apparently from mold or mildew which developed while they were wet.  I
    know that there are some record enthusiasts who belong to the OTR Digest so
    I'd like to ask two questions.  Please respond to me **off-list**.

    1.  What is the most effective way to clean the mildew off the records.

    2.  Where can we purchase new paper slips for the records or what is the
    best material for making new ones ourselves.

    Thanks and regards to all,
    Art Funk

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:20:45 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1945 OTR Debuts

    Not many reference books allow one to access series on the basis of
    their year of origin. However, Jim Cox's well-organized book, "The
    Great Radio Soap Operas" does so, in appendix form. So for the year of
    1945, two  women's daily dramas began: "Barry Cameron" and "A Woman's
    Life."

    A few other series come to mind that first hit the airwaves in 1945:
    "Maisie", "The Beulah Show" (a spin-off from "Fibber McGee and Molly"),
    "Manhunt" and "The Sea Has a Story" (with Pat O'Brien.)

    Based upon my limited research, 1944 and 1946 were "bumper-crop" years
    for new shows, while 1945 was not that impressive.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:21:26 -0400
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Once more into the [removed]

    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];

>     I cannot believe  that in the vast oversupply of aspiring actors out there
>     isn't a talented  group that could be attracted to some sort of radio
>     enterprise.

    Would someone please say something here? I believe a vein in my head just
    [removed]

    Mark, taking a breath and putting it as simply as I can,  there have been A
    GREAT MANY people doing just that thing, for  the last twenty-five years. The
    quality of said work is much like that of the  Golden Age: a little, very
    good;
    some, very bad; the majority, somewhere in  the middle.

    We're legion, on this side of the mic. There are tangible things that could
    help, from the loudspeaker side: informed interest, and pressure on the venue
    sources.

    Best,
    -Craig Wichman
    (Quicksilver Radio Theater; The Twilight Zone; Simon Studios Presents;
    Chinatown, USA; Other Realities, etc.)

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:53:08 -0400
    From: HRRMIKES@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR IN SEATTLE-JUNE 24-25

    The casting is doneb&schedule is setb&and the registrations are coming in.
    The folks at The Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound (REPS) are excitedly working
    and waiting for our Radio Showcase.
    DATES/SITE. The convention will be held on June 24 and 25 in the Northwest
    Rooms of Seattle Center, in the shade of the well-known Space Needle.   It
    will
    be an all day Friday and Saturday program, easy to follow and enjoy.
                       THEME. The club selected for a theme "The Good Ol'
    Days"
    and, of course, radio days sure qualify.   And, we're determined to have a
    simple and friendly event as we did in the good ol' days of REPS.
    STARS. Attendees will be enjoying the talents and personalities of OTR actors
    Gil Stratton, Jr, Hal Stone, Rosemary Rice, Anne Whitfield Phillips, Bill
    Idelson, Bob Hastings, Art Gilmore, Ray Erlenborn, Herb Ellis, Dick Beals,
    Alice
    Backes. Also, Larry Albert, Frank Buxton and Jim French will make major
    contributions.
    PROGRAM. Re-creations include The Adventures of Frank Race, Archie Andrews,
    Vic & Sade, X Minus One and Romance.   There will be a new Imagination Theater
    written for some of the OTR guests.   Segments will be done from: Bob and Ray;
    The Bickersons; Ethel and Albert; Abbot and Costello.
    CUDDLY.   This will be a warm, intimate and actor honoring gathering.
    INFORMATION   Please contact Mike Sprague at 480-474-4480 or hrrmikes@[removed]
       Details will consistently be posted on the club website
    ([removed])

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:12:23 -0400
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Webb Book

         As promised, I have the ISBN for the book I
    mentioned last week.  The title of the book is
    "Just The Facts, Ma'am" the authorized biography
    of Jack Webb. It's ISBN (so you can order it through
    bookstores is 0-929765-29-X. Just thought I'd mention
    this in case there are any "Dragnet" or Jack Webb
    fans out there.

         BTW, when I was growing up, I remember my great
    grandmother saying (whenever she wanted to show some
    shock or surprise) "Well, I [removed] surely do swan!"

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:31:27 -0400
    From: "Paul Grieves" <paul@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: radio drama, grumble

> >     Well, why _isn't_ there any radio drama for the 2000's????

    This may be true of American Radio in general, (although I'm sure not
    totally).

    However in the UK, the BBC still pump out radio drama's, comedies, soap
    opera's, [removed]  Admittedly not to the same level as yesteryear, but check
    out [removed] and [removed] to see what's available.

    Everything is available over the net either live, or as a "Listen Again" for
    7 days after the broadcast.

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:28:00 -0400
    From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  WTIC's "The Golden Age of Radio

    The latest "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" programs
    with Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran, can be heard at
    [removed]

    Program 28 - July, 1972 - Alexander Scourby

    Dick and Ed interview actor and narrator Alexander Scourby.
    Scourby's voice, trained in Shakespearean roles in the 1930's
    and perfected in radio dramatic parts in the 1940's, was a well-
    known sound on Broadway, in motion pictures, and on television.
    We'll hear an interview recorded at Mr. Scourby's home in
    Connecticut. along with some of the radio shows in which he
    appeared.

    Program 29 - August, 1972 - Mary Jane Higby and Guy Sorel

    Mary Jane Higby, star of "When a Girl Marries" and other soap
    operas, was the guest a few months ago on Program 17.
    This is a second interview with Ms. Higby, this time with her
    husband, actor Guy Sorel.

    In her delightful treatise, Tune In Tomorrow, Ms Higby brings
    back the Golden Days of Radio with hilarious and nostalgic
    accounts of all the Radio Greats such as: The Shadow, Jack
    Benny, Allen's Alley, Mr. Keen, and lots more of everyone's
    radio favorites.

    Guy Sorel, got his start on Broadway in the early 1940's, and
    became a busy radio actor, appearing in such shows as You
    Are There, Cavalcade of America, and many others. On this
    program we'll hear excerpts from those shows and more.

    In the 1970's Dick Bertel created the program for WTIC in Hartford,
    CT. The idea came to Dick after he interviewed radio collector-
    historian Ed  Corcoran a few times. "The Golden Age of Rado
    was first broadcast in April, 1970; Ed was Dick's co-host.

    For the next seven years the program featured interviews with
    radio actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians from
    radio's  early days. Each show featured excerpts from Ed's
    collection.

    Bob Scherago
    Webmaster

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:30:03 -0400
    From: Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Radio is all in the hearing

    Back in #108, Stuart Lubin wrote:

>     I wish that Digesters would contribute more examples
>     of misunderstood words and phrases on OTR because
>     they were audio only.

    Well, in the 1940s, as a kid listening to Duffy's
    Tavern, I always heard 'Archie' answer the phone with:
    "..... whether ya reet me deet".  I guess I thought it
    was either 'hep' adult slang or some kind of nonsense
    phrase.  Of course, what Ed Gardner    actually said
    was "where the elite meet to eat".

    -- Phil C.

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:31:02 -0400
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ipods for OTR?

    Can anyone identify the professor in the following article who is using
    Ipods to teach a class in Old Time Radio: Theater of the Mind at Duke
    University?

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:12:22 -0400
    From: "Morris Joseph" <mjoseph55@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Drama in the [removed]
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       Mark poses an interesting [removed] the lack of original radio
       drama in the [removed]  Well the fact is that there is some new radio drama
       being produced and also broadcast on conventional as well as satellite
       radio.  I'm thinking of the Twilight Zone series as well as
       Imagination Theater.
       Furthermore, XM devotes a channel to new radio drama series.  Since I
       live in Toronto, I can't access XM programming as yet.

       I would like to pose a related question:  Why doesn't [removed] public
       radio (NPR) promote and invest in and broadcast original radio drama?
       Since commercial radio won't do it, it should be part of public
       radio's domain. In Canada, the CBC still produces some radio drama; in
       the [removed], the BBC
       devotes a whole channel to a variety of drama and [removed](BBC-7
       which can be heard streaming online).  If NPR took some initiative,
       marketed it, and produced it, people would listen.
       They used to do [removed] not anymore. Supporters of radio drama, how
       about E-mailing,writing,or
       phoning your local NPR stations requesting dramatic programming?  If
       PBS-TV can telecast programs that appeal to an older narrower
       demographic audience "by popular demand", then surely NPR should be
       able to at least have one hour a week of radio drama. Is this too much
       to ask?

       M. Joseph

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:12:35 -0400
    From: [removed]@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lone Ranger / Green Hornet - WZYZ  SFX

    I read someplace, that a major radio network tried to hire the whole sound
    effects department away from WXYZ and relocate the guys to NYC. The crew said
    no
    apparently.

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:12:52 -0400
    From: William Atkinson <willatkinson@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  It's A Joke Son
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    [removed] has this movie, along with many, many other great movies, as
    free downloads under the heading of "feature movies".  A great site.
    Will

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    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:30:02 -0400
    From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR Commerical Scripts
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    Howdy!
    I am looking forward to this weekend at Cincy!!!!
    As in the past, I know I will find things to use in my hobby as well as in the
    classroom. In keeping with the latter thought, I was wondering if anyone out
    there will be at Cincy with scripts from OTR shows expecially scripts from OTR
    commercials?? Are there any books out there that specialiaze/ focus on OTR
    commercials? I am not a nut for commercials, but I do want them for analysis
    in class and for our recreations of OTR shows.
    Any help out there?
    And is there any nibble of info regarding my earlier posting about ZORRO on
    the radio?
    Thanks,
    Randy
    (3 days til CINCY!!!!!)

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    Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:27:55 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-12 births/deaths

    April 12th births

    04-12-1899 - Boake Carter - Baku, Russia - d. 11-16-1944
    news commentator: "Night newscast for CBS"
    04-12-1902 - John White - d. 11-26-1992
    country/western singer: Lonesome Cowboy "Death Valley Days"
    04-12-1904 - Lily Pons - Draguignan, France - d. 2-13-1976
    singer: "Telephone Hour"; "Voice of Firestone"
    04-12-1907 - Ivan Ditmars - Olympia, WA - d. 9-10-1997
    music: "Advs. of Frank Race"; "Dr. Christian"; "Escape"
    04-12-1912 - Herbert B. Mills - Picqua, OH - d. 4-12-1989
    singer: (The Mills Brothers) "Mills Brothers Quartette"
    04-12-1914 - Ken Williams - Canada - d. 2-16-1984
    actor: Brian Wells "David Harum"
    04-12-1918 - Helen Forrest - Atlantic City, NJ - d. 7-11-1999
    big band singer: "Artie Shaw and His Orchestra"; "Harry James and His
    Orchestra"
    04-12-1919 - Ann Miller - Chireno, TX - d. 1-22-2004
    dancer, actress: "Forecast"; "Hollywood Hotel"
    04-12-1920 - Anita Ellis - Montreal, Canada
    singer: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy"; "Jack Carson Show" "Red
    Skelton Show"
    04-12-1926 - Jane Withers - Atlanta, GA
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-12-1931 - Betty Clooney - Maysville, KY - d. 8-xx-1976
    singer: (The Clooney Sisters) "Moon River"

    April 12th deaths

    01-30-1882 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt - Hyde Park, NY - d. 4-12-1945
    [removed] president: "Fireside Chats"
    04-12-1912 - Herbert B. Mills - Picqua, OH - d. 4-12-1989
    singer: (The Mills Brothers) "Mills Brothers Quartette"
    05-13-1914 - Joe Louis (The Brown Bomber) - Lafayette, AL - d.
    4-12-1981
    heavyweight boxing champ: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"; "Fred Allen
    Show"; "Freedom's People"
    05-23-1882 - James Gleason - NYC - d. 4-12-1959
    actor: "Jimmy Gleason's Diner"
    06-03-1906 - Josephine Baker - St. Louis, MO - d. 4-12-1975
    singer: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
    07-19-1902 - Buster Bailey - Memphis, TN - d. 4-12-1967
    clarinet: "Flow Gently, Sweet Rhythm"
    09-08-1921 - Harry Secombe - Swansea, Wales - d. 4-12-2001
    comedian: Neddie Seagoon "Goon Show"
    09-09-1894 - Arthur Freed - Charleston, SC - d. 4-12-1973
    songwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-02-1901 - Paul Ford - Baltimore, MD - d. 4-12-1976
    actor: "Suspense"; "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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