Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #312
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/12/2002 9:11 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 312
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Harry Nile at Sam's                   [ Jack Harris <jack@[removed] ]
      Re: Presenting Charles Boyer          [ Steven Kelez <otrsteve@[removed]; ]
      Louisville meeting- kentuckiana otr   [ "e ginsburg" <edginsburg@[removed] ]
      Re: Jake Powell                       [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Code Breaking-Another Kind Of Radio   [ Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; ]
      The Breakfast Club                    [ Dancingdays72777@[removed] ]
      Re: Arthur Godfrey                    [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
      Ernestine Schumann Heink              [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Bob Hope                              [ badaxley@[removed] ]
      recordings of December 11th,1941      [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
      Re: candid mike recordings            [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
      Reality VS. Fantasy                   [ "james hunt" <jameshunt@[removed] ]
      Arthur Marx's biographies             [ "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE      [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Gildersleeve Stalks the Shadow        [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Schlepperman                          [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:41:59 -0400
    From: Jack Harris <jack@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Harry Nile at Sam's

    Went to Sam's club yesterday and they had an 8 tape set of Harry Nile for
    $[removed]  I am not crazy about cassettes as an older set of Nile I have on
    tape has a lot to be desired as for the quality. The audio warbles on some
    shows.  This is a set that Jim announced on some earlier cds of Imagination
    Theater.  I have a copy of the script for Hush Money and have waited a long
    time to hear it.  I am pleased that it is among the shows along with some
    others that he hasn't released before.  Now if Jim would just start
    releasing his material on cd it would be great.  Not the Imagination
    Theater cds as they keep putting out some of the same shows over and over.
    I now have multiple copies of shows just to get a show I don't have. They
    put a new show on the cd along with one they have already put out as many
    as three times before.

    Jack

    for dive videos and computers
    visit [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:44:59 -0400
    From: Steven Kelez <otrsteve@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Presenting Charles Boyer

>     I'm listening to a show called "The Adventures of Marcelle" starring
>     Charles Boyer.  I decided to look it up in Jay Hickerson's wonderful
>     book of circulating shows and can't find it!!

>     Can anyone tell me more about this show?  Was it a series?

    Arlene Osborne asked about the Adventures Of Marcelle program. Yes it was a
    series. It is also listed in Hickerson's book, only by it's proper title:
    Presenting Charles Boyer. According to Dunning, it was a summer replacement for
    Fibber McGee and Molly, and aired July 4 - Spet. 12, 1950. Then, according to
    Hickerson, the program ran another month from 9-14-50 to 10-26-50. Here's a
    list
    of shows from the Radio Showcase catalog:

    MC-1476: ADVENTURES OF MARCEL
    Side 1- Adventure Of The Queen Of Sheba (Charles Boyer, Raymond Burr) (Very
    Good,
    Audition, Mystery)
    Side 2- Mr. Smith's Painting 6/20/50 (Charles Boyer, Hanley Stafford) (Very
    Good,
    Network,
    Mystery) * Adventure of the Queen of Sheba is an audtion for the series.
    6/20/50
    is the first
    show of the series. Cassette Length: 60 Min.

    MC-1502: ADVENTURES OF MARCEL
    Side 1- Goldilocks And The Brooklyn Dodger 6/27/50 (Charles Boyer, Sheldon
    Leonard)
    (Very Good, Network, Adventure)
    Side 2- My Life Of Crime 7/11/50 (Charles Boyer, Betty Moran) (Very Good,
    Network,

    Mystery) Cassette Length: 60 Min.

    MC-1520: ADVENTURES OF MARCEL
    Side 1- The Lady And The Mink Coat 7/18/50 (Charles Boyer, Sheldon Leonard)
    (Excellent,
    Network, Drama)
    Side 2- Adventure Of The Perfume Bloodhound 7/25/50 (Charles Boyer, Willard
    Waterman)
    (Excellent, Network, Mystery) Cassette Length: 60 Min.

    MC-1540: ADVENTURES OF MARCEL
    Side 1- The Phantom Of Versailles 8/1/50 (Charles Boyer, Jean Bates)
    (Excellent,
    Network,
    Drama)
    Side 2- Adventure Of The Fortune Teller's Fortune 8/8/50 (Gloria Gordon, Betty
    Moran) (Very
    Good, Network, Drama) Cassette Length: 60 Min.

    The dates may be off, or the information in Dunning is off by a few weeks. I
    think
    Ed Carr may have a few more episodes than Radio Showcase.

    Steven Kelez
    RADIO SHOWCASE <[removed];

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:45:13 -0400
    From: "e ginsburg" <edginsburg@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Louisville meeting- kentuckiana otr

    The August meeting of the Kentuckiana Old-time radio addicts will be Sunday,
    August 10th-9:30am at Dillon's Steakhouse at the corner of Hurstbourne Lane
    and Taylorsville Rd.
    All fans of Otr are invited-refreshments will be served (admission $5)
    for more information
    please call me @502-451-0071
    thanks
    eddie ginsburg
    edginsburg@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:43:04 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Jake Powell

    On 8/11/02 11:06 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     What did Powell's suspension cost him, in today's dollars?

    I don't know exactly what Powell was being paid in 1938, but a typical
    major league salary of the late 1930s might run around $5000 or so per
    year -- comparable to what a middle-level executive might earn. Breaking
    that out over a 26-week season gives you a weekly pay rate of
    approximately $200 a week. Translating that into today's money depends on
    what scale you choose to use -- if you suggest that one 1938 dollar has
    the purchasing power of 12  2002 dollars, Powell's suspension might have
    cost him the equivalent of $3400 or so in modern money.

>     What would be the financial effect of the loss of ten days' pay on today's
>     players?

    The current minimum major league salary is $200,000 a year -- if Powell
    was making around $5000, he was earning the modern equivalent of about
    $60,000. So a $3400 fine would have had less impact on even a
    minimum-pay-scale modern player than Powell's fine did. John Rocker, to
    use a modern and obnoxious example, was earning $[removed] million per season
    when controversy erupted over his remarks. A ten day suspension of such a
    player would have been meaningless.

>     Would the Commissioner dare to humiliate a modern baseball champion by
>     subjecting him to something like the second part of Powell's punishment?

    The MLBPA would never allow it. (And it should also be noted that in
    imposing such a punishment, then-Commissioner Landis was exhibiting his
    own hypocrisy -- given how tightly the major league color line was drawn
    during his lifetime.)

    To bring this back on topic, I don't believe any recordings exist
    documenting Bob Elson's WGN interview with Jake Powell -- although the
    incident itself is well documented in the press of the day, and newspaper
    accounts agree on both the substance of what was said and on the reaction
    which followed.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 16:06:26 -0400
    From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Code Breaking-Another Kind Of Radio

    Yesterday a dedication ceremony took place on Bainbridge Island, in Puget
    Sound, a few miles to the west of Seattle.  The dedication was for Fort
    Ward's parade grounds and a building called "Station S" where Navy radiomen
    during World War II intercepted and decoded messages sent from Tokyo.  These
    radiomen became so good that they could receive and send the decoded message
    to the desk of the Secretary of State in 15 minutes.  Perhaps the most
    important message Station S intercepted was on Dec. 6, 1941.  On that day
    they decoded a message that said all diplomatic negotiations with the United
    States would be broken the next day at dawn.  We all know what happened the
    next day.  I was a young boy during that time and did not realize that such
    an importat part of history was taking place only a few miles away from where
    I lived.  Regards, Ken Dahl

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:25:36 -0400
    From: Dancingdays72777@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Breakfast Club
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    Does anyone know where I can find episodes of The Breakfast Club?  I only
    possess one, from 12-8-41, and of course it's heavily interrupted with war
    bulletins.

    Thanks<
    Matt

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:23:58 -0400
    From: Grbmd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Arthur Godfrey

    In a message dated 8/11/02 11:03:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, George writes:

>     Without knowing too much of Arthur as a person, many years ago as a child, I
>      heard a candid mike type recording of him on the radio. I think it was on
>      Max Schmid's program but Im not sure. At any rate, on the show I heard the
>      unacted Arthur, and it was the the most disgusting and filthy thing I ever
>      heard in my life.  I didnt listen to that very long.

    Neither do I know much about Arthur Godfrey as a person, but I think it is
    important for George or anyone else to present at least some evidence
    whenever one is going to smear the reputation of a public or private figure.

    Disgusting?  Filthy?  Let's hear some allegations with some first-person
    data.  Either that or abide by the old adage, "If you can't say something
    nice about a person, ...."

    Spence

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:31:06 -0400
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ernestine Schumann Heink

    After the recent discussion I was able to locate my reel of these 8 programs
    which I originally bought from Mr. Kiner. Sound quality is mediocre overall.
    Does anyone have any clues where the original discs might be? I would love
    to make new transfers.

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:52:02 -0400
    From: badaxley@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bob Hope

    I think Hal has a right to publish his opinions on those
    stars he has worked with over his years in the directing
    business.  It disappoints me to find out Mr. Hope
    exhibited this type of personality.  However, he is a
    very nostalgic person to me as I remember my first radio
    experience of listening to Bob Hope's radio show sitting
    in my mother's lap scared silly by an early WWII
    blackout.  I also continue to enjoy listening to his old
    broadcasts and watching his movies.  I guess I just take
    him for the wonderful entertainment he has provided me
    over all the years.  I still think you're great Hal and
    keep on with your great input to this digest!
    Bob Axley

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:33:41 -0400
    From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  recordings of December 11th,1941

    Do any news broadcast recordings exist or circulate of the US
    declarations of war agains Japan and Italy on December 11, 1941?

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:33:46 -0400
    From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: candid mike recordings

    The "soured on this star" syndrome, as I call it, regularly occurs when
    someone discovers an off color blooper recording of a famous personality
    and is shocked by it. Yes Mr Godfrey said some nasty things from time to
    time. But so did, Bob Hope,, Bing Crosby, Jack Benny, George Burns,
    Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, Ronald Reagan and I could go on and on and
    [removed]

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:57:17 -0400
    From: "james hunt" <jameshunt@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Reality VS. Fantasy

    I have a good friend who is in the music business who, until  he dissolved
    his band recently, was beginning
    to build a national reputation-a "name"-for himself  by appearing in nearly
    every media format
    available to him as a musician, singer, actor or any combination of same.
    I recall a converstion we had some five or six years ago about "Performers
    in the limelight" constantly dealing
    with the fine line dividing his/her "public personna" and who the individual
    Really is. It was my contention then, and remains
    today -as i related to Jeff-that there is the ongoing pressure to cross that
    line. In doing so, one's perspective
    of oneself Very often changes to the extent that he/she---(you fill in the
    blanks)---can easily become the "image"/person he or
    she is projecting to the paying customer-the fans.
    I further submit that, given time-depending upon a variety of factors-
    "givens"-if you will-the meshing of  the Real Person
    with The Fictonal, Fantasized One Often leads to Heartache and tragedy for
    said "Star" and anyone who is in any way related
    to said individual.
    Fortunately, my friend is an exception as are many  others-past, present,
    and future.
    Every Person in the spotlight-performer, actor, minister, politician, media
    preacher etc. comes to this crossroad at some
    point in their profession and either resolves this issue Or allows  it to
    manipulate them.
    If Godfrey-for instance- or Hope, allowed themselves to believe the good,
    bad or indifferent press circulating about
    themselves to the extent that they "live up" to a particular thread  of
    half truths in order to amass higher Crosley,
    Arbitron Ratings or to sell more soup or more tickets then they become
    idols, buffoons or SOB's offmike, off camera-
    whatever it takes.
    If, converesely, Godfrey, Crosby, Hope, Bud Collyer, Brace Beemer, etc.
    knows who he is and cares less about what
    anyone thinks, then behind the scenes, privately, they are what they want to
    be-Good guys, bad guys, baffons, SOB's.
    Or maybe something in the middle.
    Like every OTR fan-on and off this list-i have heroes and have made them
    larger than life. However, being an observer
    of the Forest and not the trees-In All things Great And Small for most of my
    adult life I have done what someone has
    so eloquently expressed here. I take what I consider to be the "Salt", the
    yeast, of my hero's performance and have
    constructed  my own belief system building on what my hero or heroine
    delivered to my ears, my brain and my heart
    in that order.
    A case in point-Brace [removed] me he will Always Be "The Lone Ranger". More
    years ago than i care to remember
    my favorite Atlanta, Ga. Radio DJ once told me, off the air-when he found
    out I was a "LR" fan-that he was, at one time-very
    briefly-a member of the WXYZ reperatory company, using an alias. He told me
    what it was. I later discovered nothing
    to verify this, anywhere. He said he worked the "Ranger". When I asked him
    about his impressions-if any-of Mr. Beemer,
    he told me that he and his wife were childless but that he loved children,
    especially little boys. He said that Beemer would
     bring boys to the studio with him .
    It was obvious, to him, that "The Lone Ranger" was Gay  by the way he
    treated them-embracing, kissing them.
    It is From Brace Beemer that I was reinforced in what I had   learned from
    Sunday School, Church, my parents about
    Agape Love, Brotherhood, Racial Equality and Patriotism. Not to mention
    Kindness, Strength, and Wisdom.
    Don Hunt

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    Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:10:51 -0400
    From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Arthur Marx's biographies

    otrdsiegel@[removed] writes:

>         When I read Hal Stone's posting about Bob Hope I was reminded of the
>     1993
>     unauthorized biography of Bob Hope (The Secret Life Of Bob Hope) written by
>     Arthur Marx (Groucho's son) and published by Barricade Books. If you are
>     not
>     familiar with this volume it goes into much detail about the less than
>     pleasant characteristic of Mr. Hope.

    I recently read Mr. Marx's previous volume about Red Skelton, which
    impressed me as a hatchet job supreme. While I don't doubt the basics of
    what Marx wrote about, including Red's allegedly stealing his "Guzzler's
    Gin" sketch from discarded pages of a Fred Allen script, I did find it odd
    that nowhere in that book is Johnny Carson mentioned. Certainly, Marx had to
    have heard that Carson's big national break was as Red's hand-picked
    substitute when Red suffered a terrible injury during rehearsals for a
    broadcast.

    I have to wonder if, perhaps, Arthur Marx's poison pen material betrays a
    personal frustration with the business that his father and uncles, and for a
    while (though to a lesser extent) even his sister Melinda, had success in.

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    Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:47:55 -0400
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE

    Here's the lineup for easy access listening on the OTRN at:
    [removed]
    for the week starting Sunday, August 11, 2002 - in hi-end streaming audio 24/7

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
    1. THE FORD THEATER   5/30/48  "Laura" stars Virginia Gilmore/John Larkin
    2. THE MAN CALLED X   06/26/47  "Rembrandt in Rio"
    3. MURDER BY EXPERTS  12/26/40  "The Case of the Missing Mind"
        starring:  Carl Eastman.  Host: John Dickson Carr.

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
    1. SCREEN DIRECTOR'S PLAYHOUSE     CBS   10/24/49  "Love Letters"
        starring: Joseph Cotten.
    2. SUSPENSE    CBS  10/19/53   "My True Love's Hair"  stars: Jeff Chandler.
    3. COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL with BILL STERN      NBC   #493
        04/08/49   Guest:  Olympic star,  Jesse Owens.

    Enjoy ----     Tom & Jerry

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    Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:33:10 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gildersleeve Stalks the Shadow

    Dr. Nightmare for Water Commissioner? Another case of hearing an OTR
    voice in an unexpected setting: I refer to the Shadow episode of 19
    November 1944, "The Man Who Dreamed Too Much." This show is notable in
    that, for one thing, Lamont Cranston's rash action in speaking for a
    victim of extortion, telling the extortioner, without the victim's
    knowledge or permission, that no payoff will be forthcoming, costs the
    man his life, a fact that never seems to trouble Lamont or Margo.
    [Actually, the Shadow's actions seem to often result in the deaths of
    innocent people.]

    But, more to my point, the villainous Dr. Nightmare sounds to my ears
    very much like The Great Gildersleeve. Which of the Gildersleeves I
    can't say; Hal Peary was already doing Gildersleeve, but he was
    well-known for playing a variety of characters, often doing more than
    one voice when he was appearing on Fibber McGee and Molly. His audio
    doppelganger Willard Waterman, having been denied work on FM&M for
    sounding too much like Peary, was doing pick-up and ensemble work on
    radio and seems more likely to have been available. But Dr. Nightmare's
    chortles, giggles, and his up-and-down-the-scale voice sounds more like
    the trained singing voice of Peary to my layman's ears.

    The voice is not quite identical to that of the Gildersleeve character,
    but, again, both actors were adept at playing a variety of roles and
    dialects. Furthermore, the somewhat more stentorian tone and
    over-the-top (even for The Shadow) delivery could just be an effort to
    add a touch of villainy and, if it was Peary, to mask his identity. On
    the other hand, Dr. Nightmare is described as fat and diabolically jolly
    and was, perhaps, intended to suggest the popular Gildersleeve character
    to the audience. At any rate, even if my ears deceive me (entirely
    possible) the actor who played the evil doctor COULD have played
    Gildersleeve when Peary left the role, had not Waterman been available.
    Unfortunately, the recording I heard cut off abruptly, before the
    closing announcements, but I don't think The Shadow listed credits
    anyhow, at least during this period. So, does anyone know of a Shadow
    log with [removed] ?

    [Brief Pause]

    Well, at this point in my digest submission I decided to check the
    internet again. I note that on Jerry Haendiges' site the version of this
    particular show he's offering is said to be a recreation. The version
    I'm listening to sounds quite unique, also: The Shadow's opening lines
    use an echo effect instead of filters, the laugh is more maniacal, less
    a nasty chuckle, et cetera. But the announcer sounds authentic, and the
    actors are polished. So, who did this recreation, and why? And IS that
    one of the Water Commissioners? Who [removed] ?

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    Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:33:40 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Schlepperman

    In a message dated 8/10/02 8:03:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     Second, I've been listening to a bunch of early Jack Benny episodes, and the
>      Schlepperman character is a regular part of the ensemble. I've heard him

    pop

>      up on other programs also( for example, as a bed salesman on an early
>     episode
>      of the Great Gildersleeve). Could somebody tell me the performer's real

    name

>      and provide some background on him?

    That would be Sam Hearn.  I'm sorry that I can't provide a lot of details on
    Hearn's career, mainly because he's one of those folks like Cliff Nazarro and
    Blanche Stewart who appeared regularly in the early days, but I haven't yet
    had the opportunity of doing a full analysis of their work.

    Not only did he do the Schlepperman role in the 1930s, but returned to the
    show playing the unnamed hick/rube/bumpkin (as Artie Auerbach had since
    joined the show playing Mr. Kitzel, and a second Jewish character would have
    been overkill).  "Hello, stranger!" was replaced with "Hi Rube" or "Hiya
    Rube".  He also appeared in "The Big Broadcast of 1937".

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:33:48 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1937 - Comedian Red Skelton got his first taste of network radio as he
    appeared on the Rudy Vallee Show on NBC.

      Joe

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