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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 68
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  I-Pod Anyone?                         [ Rob Chatlin <rchatlin@[removed] ]
  Car radios?                           [ arack@[removed] ]
  Sherlock Holmes                       [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
  2-25 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  lossless compressor                   [ Dwane Harney <toys413@[removed]; ]
  Donald & Herman                       [ Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed]; ]
  Laughing Records Revisited -          [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Sherlock Holmes                       [ "Michael J. Laurino" <mlaurino@[removed] ]
  Sherlock Holmes                       [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
  Donald Duck                           [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Please Help!                          [ "Michael Murphy" <mmurphy@[removed]; ]
  Re: Breakfast Club                    [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  The Hound of the Baskervilles movie   [ "awfulE" <emba@[removed]; ]
  2-26 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:29:28 -0500
From: Rob Chatlin <rchatlin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  I-Pod Anyone?

Jeff,
I've been using 10 gig ipod to listen to OTR for 2 years now,
and  I love it. It makes flights completely tolerable,
as well as great for an afternoon walk.  I would time my excercise
by listening to 2 episodes walking out, then 2 more on the return trip.

Rob

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:29:38 -0500
From: arack@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Car radios?

Can anyone fill me in a little on the history of car radios? I know that
transistor radios started appearing in the [removed] that when listening
to radio in cars started happening, or did some autos have radios
[removed]

Thanks!
Alec Cumming

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:30:18 -0500
From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sherlock Holmes

  The line at the end of  Rathbone's version of the
Hound was restored for the 1980's theatrical
re-release of that film. In the Granada TV version of
the Musgrave Ritual Jeremy Brett actualy gives a
portrayal of Holmes showing the Great Detective under
the influence of the drug. In a later episode, The
Devil's Foot, Holmes is shown on the beach burying his
drug apparatus in the sand.
  In the surviving OTR episodes of Holmes I've never
heard any reference to his drug use which is not
suprising since there couldn't be a hero on American
airwaves at the time with that kind of problem.
              Larry Albert

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 15:09:54 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  2-25 births/deaths

February 25th births

02-25-1879 - Frank McIntyre - Ann Arabor, MI - d. 6-8-1949
actor: Captain Barney "Maxwell House Showboat"; Captain Henry "Showboat"
02-25-1901 - Zeppo Marx - NY  - d. 11-30-1979
comedian: (Marx Brothers) "American Review"
02-25-1904 - Marion Claire - Chicago, IL - d. 2-24-1988
singer: "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
02-25-1913 - Jim Backus - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-3-1989
comedian: Hubert Updike "Alan Young Show"; Chester Fenwick "Sad Sack"
02-25-1921 - Patricia Ryan - London, England - d. 2-15-1949
actress: Amy March "Little Women"; Claudia Naughton "Claudia and David"
02-25-1923 - Larry Gelbart - Beverly Hills, CA
writer: "Bob Hope Show"; "Duffy's Tavern"; "Jack Parr Show"
02-25-1938 - Diane Baker - Hollywood, CA
actress: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

February 25th deaths

02-20-1914 - John Charles Daly - Johannesburg, South Africa - d. 2-25-1991
newscaster, emcee: "What's My Line"; "CBS Is There"; "Columbia Workshop"
03-17-1884 - Frank Buck - Gainesville, TX - d. 2-25-1950
wild animal hunter: "Bring 'em Back Alive"
03-21-1908 - Vincent Pelletier - Minneapolis, MN - d. 2-25-1994
actor: Victor Powell "This is Life"; Robin "Calling All Detectives"
07-31-1904 - Billy Hillpot - Red Bank, NJ - d. 2-25-1985
singer: Trade "Smith Brothers: Trade and Mark"; "Camel Pleasure Hour"
09-23-1907 - Rudd Weatherwax - Engel, Sierra County, NM - d. 2-25-1985
trainer: "Lassie"
12-09-1903 - Matty Malneck - Newark, NJ - d. 2-25-1981
bandleader: "Campana Serenade"; "Duffy's Tavern"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:28:40 -0500
From: Dwane Harney <toys413@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  lossless compressor

"Jeff Quick" <mrears69@[removed]; said:

I also archive all the shows that I capture to a WAV
file. Since this format is not compressed, you can
always edit the sound file down the road again
without losing any sound quality.

Some of you might like to know that there is a
lossless compressor for WAV files. It's called
Monkey's Audio and can be found at:

[removed]

There is also a Monkey's Audio plugin for Winamp 2.
I've tried it, and it seems nice to me. You can get
the plugin here:

[removed]

Hope this helps someone,
Dwane

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:29:01 -0500
From: Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Donald & Herman

There have been a few strings on the digest about Walt
Disney on radio. But my question is that on several
episodes of The Burns & Allen Show, Gracie & George
have a pet duck named Herman. It sounds like the same
voice and mannerisms of Donald Duck. I know that
Clarence Nash was the original voice of Donald but
does anyone know if he did the voice of Herman.

Also for those who did not know Clarence Nash was a
guest on Steve Allen's daily radio show back in the
late 1940's doing the voice of the irascible duck. So
there is another connection to Disney and OTR.
Allen

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:29:54 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Laughing Records Revisited -
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I apologize in advance if this information was included in the 'laughing song'
thread in the group.

I collect vintage recordings, late 19th century, early 20th and just acquired
yet another laughing record.

This particular song, titled  'The Laughing Song'  was recorded first in 1891
for Columbia Cylinder and features George W. Johnson, who also wrote the song.
That's the version I have.

George W. Johnson was a former Virginia slave and the most important
African-American recording artist of the 1890's.  Records show that this song
was also released (or released/reissued?) in 1898 by Columbia, 1890, by Edison
Cylinder and Victor in 1900.  This song was tremendously popular and recorded
by other artists, but because of his infectious laugh the Johnson recording
was the most popular.    He introduced it in a minstrel show.

The lyrics are: [remember this was the period of 'coon' songs, an offensive
appelation, but historically true].

As I was coming around the corner,

I heard some people say,

"Here comes the dandy darky,

Here he comes this way.

His ears like a snowplow,

His mouth is like a trap,

And when he opens it gently,

You will see a fearful gap."

And when I laugh . . . [laughs uproariously]

I just can't help from laughing . . . [laughs uproariously]

I just can't help from laughing . . . [laughs uproariously]

They said, "His mother was a princess,

His father was a prince,

And he'd been the apple of their eye,

If he had not been a quince.

But he'll be the king of Africa

In the sweet by and by."

And when I heard them saying it, why,

I laughed until I cried,

And when I laugh . . . [laughs uproariously]

I just can't help from laughing . . . [laughs uproariously]

I just can't help from laughing . . . [laughs uproariously]

So now, kind friend, just listen,

To what I'm going to say.

I've tried my best to please you

With my simple little lay.

Now, whether you think it's funny

Or quite a bit of chaff,

Why, all I'm going to do is

Just to end it with a laugh

And when I laugh . . . [laughs uproariously]

I just can't help from laughing . . . [laughs uproariously]

I just can't help from laughing . . . [laughs uproariously]

-Irene

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:30:55 -0500
From: "Michael J. Laurino" <mlaurino@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Sherlock Holmes

On the subject of Holmes's drug use, John Eccles, Jr. 
<jeccles@[removed]; wrote:

Regarding Dennis Crow's posting about Sherlock Holmes and "medicine", the
last line in the 1939 "Hound Of The Baskervilles" is spoken by Rathbone, who
says,"Watson, the needle."  This is the only reference to Holmes' cocaine
use that can be found in the Rathbone interpretation of Holmes.  The second
20th Century Fox film and the subsequent Universal series make no further
mention of it.

Not quite.  In "Sherlock Holmes and The Secret Weapon" (1942), Holmes, in 
the hands of Moriarty, declares that if there positions were reversed, he 
could devise a "more colorful" end for his opponent than a mere bullet:  "I 
should have you placed on an operating table, inject a needle into your 
veins and slowly draw off your life's blood."

The professor wryly replies, "The needle to the last, eh, Holmes?"

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:31:20 -0500
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Sherlock Holmes

There is nothing like a mistake to engender  a new thread.

In a way, I am grateful that I didn't remember correctly the last line of
the original  movie of  "The Hound of the Baskervilles."  So it was a
needle not a pipe that produced Sherlock's medicine. But I make no
apologies.  The corrective  posts I received  are a welcome change from
comments about  "cod liver oil." Can we at least agree about that?

By the way, did the radio show ever refer to the "needle?"  I was really
looking for an OTR connection to Sherlock's unsavory medicinal  habits,
whatever they turn out to be.

Dennis Crow

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:56:10 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Donald Duck

Martin Grams recently mentioned that:

Disney was heard on a large number of TREASURY STAR PARADE syndication
programs, even as the voice of Donald Duck singing (part publicity for THE
THREE CALLABEROS (sp?).)  There are also recording known to exist in which
Disney was interviewed on radio stations but always (and shrewdly) for
publicity purposes.

Kris Stone mentioned:

As far as I know, Clarence Nash did the voice of Donald Duck exclusively
since around 1934-35.  Walt never did the voice of Donald - only Mickey
Mouse.
The Three Caballeros came out around 1943-44.  Please advise where you
obtained this information from - I am very curious.

Both Clarence Nash and Walt Disney both supplied the voice for Donald Duck
during the early years.  Nash was never the "only" person to do Donald, and
Disney even did a few for his animation toons when Nash would be sick on the
day they recorded sound, etc.  As for the TREASURY STAR PARADE, info came
from AFRS material, and existing circulating recordings that collectors
have.  Regrettably, I canot put an exact date other than the years (1943-44)
since there really hasn't been an authoritative broadcast log of the radio
program made yet, and TREASURY STAR PARADE was broadcast in the [removed] during
the war on numerous days and times.  In some cases, the same show could be
heard twice in the same week along the North East because more than one
broadcasting station was airing the shows.  TREASURY STAR PARADE was
syndicated so if one was looking for broadcast dates and not a simple date
of recording, they'll probably come across multiple dates for each episode.
[removed]  The episode in particular was about Mexican music, hence the reference
to the Disney animated film.

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:12:00 -0500
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
"Archie Andrews;" owners of some of the best OTR sites on the Web.

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. See you there!

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:53:35 -0500
From: "Michael Murphy" <mmurphy@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Please Help!

I submitted a message last week and haven't heard from anyone. I am looking
for the original source for a radio drama called "The Jungle Queen". I don't
know where it came from, who the original perofrmers were, the original
broadcast station, or anything like that. I have the title and the script
itself. Nothing more. I need to know the source information for some students
I work with at the high school where I teach. They are hoping to qualify for
nationals in speech with this drama but they need the original source
information to prove that they didn't make it up. The story is about Tarzan
and Jane's daughter, Lola, who is the Jungle Queen. She rescues a guy from
the cannibals. They fall in love. He ditches her to go back to civilization.
His friend comes looking for her and is about to be eaten by cannibals when
she shows up. She leaves him to the cannibals when she discovers he is her
old boyfriend's friend. It's apprently quite funny when the kids perform it.
Please, please, please. Is there anyone out there who can help us? Please let
me know ASAP. My e-mail is mmurphy@[removed]  . Thank you advance. Take care.

Michael Murphy

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:53:43 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Breakfast Club
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In a message dated 2/24/04 11:19:17 AM Central Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:

We've been through this so many times on the digest.  Why is misinformation
repeated so often when hundreds of us know differently?  With all due
respect, it wasn't true then and it isn't true now

Jim, which fact are you talking about that's a myth?  The radio "Breakfast
Club" holding longetivity records, or the TV version failing?

Dixon

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:56:51 -0500
From: "awfulE" <emba@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Hound of the Baskervilles movie
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From: David Howell <daveeaston@[removed];

I believe the line was "Quick, Watson, the needle!" I
actually heard it when the film was rebroadcast on
television. I did not see Rathbone giving the line -
it was right as the credits were beginning.

I watched a rerun of the subject and the last line came and went before I
realized the message was in fact, "Quick, Watson, the needle!" I can't
remember when, but after reading and hearing how any reference by Holmes to
the needle had been skilfully removed from all film, I was not surprised to
hear it.
Additional note:  I am left handed and I think as a lefty.  I love OTR because
there is never any assistance with you imagination, as in books on tape.
ed~

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:21:11 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  2-26 births/deaths

February 26th births

02-26-1887 - William Frawley - Burlington, IA - d. 3-3-1966
comedian: Fred Mertz "I Love Lucy", "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Hollywood Hotel"
02-26-1891 - Josef Bonime - Vilna, Poland - d. 11-8-1959
conductor: "Death Valley Days"; "Echoes of New York"
02-26-1906 - Madeleine Carroll - West Bromwich, England - d. 10-2-1987
actress: "The Circle"; "NBC Radio Theatre"; "Stage Door Canteen"
02-26-1914 - Robert Alda - NYC - d. 5-3-1986
singer: "Rudy Vallee Presents the Drene Show"
02-26-1916 - Jackie Gleason - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-24-1987
comedian: "Jackie Gleason-Les Tremayne Show"
02-26-1919 - Mason Adams - NYC
actor: Larry 'Pepper' Young "Pepper Young's Family" Ned Scott "Jones and I"
02-26-1920 - Tony Randall - Tulsa, OK
actor: Reggie York "I Love A Mystery"
02-26-1921 - Betty Hutton - Battle Creek, MI
singer: "Radio Almanac"; "Radio Hall of Fame"; "[removed] Steel Hour"
02-26-1928 - Fats Domino - New Orleans, LA
singer: "Guest Star"
02-26-1932 - Johnny Cash - Kingsland, AR - d. 9-12-2003
singer: "Louisiana Hayride"

February 26th deaths

03-15-1919 - Lawrence Tierney - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-26-2002
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-29-1896 - Harry McNaughton - Surbiton, England - d. 2-26-1967
actor, panelist: Higgins "It's Higgins. Sir"; "It Pays to Be Ignorant"
08-28-1908 - Genevieve Rowe - Freemont, OH - d. 2-26-1995
singer: "Gay Nineties Revue"; "Songs America Loves"; "An Evening with Romberg"
12-10-1889 - Arthur Vinton - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-26-1963
actor: Killer Kane "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century"; Commissioner Weston
"The Shadow"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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