Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #249
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/2/2001 9:55 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2001 : Issue 249
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Into the SHADOWS again                [ "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@eart ]
  WJZ into WABC                         [ "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail ]
  Sophistication                        [ bruce dettman <bdettman@[removed] ]
  SPIDER BOY - Its all in Your MIND     [ "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@eart ]
  Vic and Sade; WNBC                    [ "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed] ]
  Re: Guess who's coming to dinner?     [ snopes <snopes@[removed]; ]
  tascam 122mk 111                      [ "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
  help!                                 [ andy ryan <anbryan2000@[removed]; ]
  Re: The War Hero                      [ "michael edwards" <medwards_47@hotm ]
  Minidiscs - slight correction to a p  [ Jon Martin <mart459@[removed]; ]
  Fw: Re:Shadow episodes                [ Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed] ]
  Speaking of Charles McGraw            [ "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@eart ]
  Re: "Spider Boy," SHADOW and SUPERMA  [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
  OTR death                             [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Re: Re: Minidisc format for OTR       [ Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed] ]
  Re: OTR Parody                        [ Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed] ]
  poignant radio programs               [ "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed] ]
  OTR parody                            [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
  Memorable "Shadow" radio shows        [ "Steve Atlas" <slavacotr@[removed] ]
  Satyrs and Seders                     [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:37:52 -0400
From: "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@[removed];
To: "OTR DIGEST" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Into the SHADOWS again

Anthony Tollin wrote:

Interesting that you should mention "The Shadow Challenged."  (I like it
too.)  While none of the 1930-35 Readick SHADOWS are known to exist, Frank
Readick did return to the series to portray the evil Shadow doppelganger in
"The Shadow Challenged."  He seems to be holding back a bit, however,
probably to allow his good friend Bill Johnstone to shine in the lead.
(Bill and Frank rented an apartment near the radio studios with Dwight
Weist, in which they could retreat for their various hobbies (model
trains, woodworking and photography, as I recall) between East Coast
productions and West Coast repeats.

I just like to say "The SHADOW CHALLENGED" is one of my favorite shows. In
particular, I've always enjoyed the technical aspect at the end with Bill
Johnstone amid a taunting conversation gradually turning into the shadow. It
reminds of the Transporter effect on Star Trek although that was visual
instead audial. Seriously, up to now I never knew that the other Shadow (in
this episode) was Readick of the Welles era Laughs. Thanks Mr. Tollin, for
that insight.

Mike Kerezman
Macomb, Oklahoma

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:15:44 -0400
From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  WJZ into WABC

"Ed Ellers" <ed_ellers@[removed]; writes:

(Does anyone have any idea why it took so long for ABC to grab the WABC
call
sign after CBS dropped it?)

Purely speculative here, but I'd suspect ABC was loathe to forfeit the WJZ
call sign that they knew would be virtually impossible to reacquire for the
New York market. There are two examples of stations regaining three-letter
call signs that I can think of at the moment, the first being WMGM New York
being reassigned WHN (that station is now WEVD if I recall correctly) and
the second being KKHJ Los Angeles regaining its original KHJ, but both of
these took place many years after ABC let go of WJZ.

It is significant that, when merging the two stations on 890 in Chicago in
1959, ABC dropped the call sign it had already been using for many years,
WENR, in favor of the three-letter call sign of the station it just
acquired, WLS (ABC maintained WENR-FM in Chicago until 1965, when it renamed
that station WLS-FM). Similarly, Infinity Broadcasting, the modern-day
version of CBS, has maintained the call sign KNX for its Los Angeles AM
station while rechristening its TV and FM stations with the KCBS call sign
in recent years, even while keeping the original KCBS designation on one of
its AM stations in San Francisco.

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:37:11 -0400
From: bruce dettman <bdettman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sophistication

This might not make me very popular and might stir up a can of worms,
but when I read the comments of the one gentlement concerning a show on
"The Shadow" with the observation of how much more sophisticted kids are
today I couldn't help cringing. Kids are more street-wise, perhaps. They
might be more cynical and apathetic, know about sex and drugs, but I
have never understood the reference to their being so [removed]
of them know nothing of history or philosophy, of books,  food,
classical art  or music other than MTV fodder. They grow up without
appreciation for subtlety or nuance. Look at the movies that people in
their late teens and early twenties help earn millions of dollars. They
think Star Wars is deep. It's FlashGordon with high tech special
effects, nothing more. The great sci-fi was in books by Asimov, Polk,
Van Gogt etc. Okay, I know this doesn't belong here but it's late in the
day, hot here (California) and that sophistication line just rankled me.
Now, this 50 year-old is going home and try to order a copy of
"Spiderboy." Sounds great.

dettman

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:37:09 -0400
From: "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@[removed];
To: "OTR DIGEST" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  SPIDER BOY - Its all in Your MIND

Ken Piletic recently commented on effect of the SHADOW episode "SPIDER BOY".
I concur. While I was born too late to experience, the Golden Age in 1945, I
have had similar experience. My Dad in mid 1970s began collecting OTR shows
when I was a mere 7 years old. I have fond memories of the shows I first
heard at that age. In particular, with regard to the SUSPENSE offering "The
House in Cypress Canyon" I still vivid memories of the exact dimensions of
certain closet door of house my Parents lived in then. I do not remember
much else of that House in Colorado Rockies, but I do remember that closet
door off the [removed] who has heard will not miss the point. To me it
seems my young mind was highly impressionable, and there were several shows
I listened FIRST at seven and eight years old that made such an impression
on my mind, that I was afraid to listen them in my medroom at night unless
the Lights were on up until I reached my early teens. My list of these
shows:

1. SUSPENSE "House in Cypress Canyon"
2. ESCAPE "Snake Doctor" - (We also had certain fireplace, with the
appropriate masonry)
3. QUIET PLEASE "Whence Came You"
4. INNER SANCTUM "Only The Dead Die Twice"
5. SUSPENSE "The Paralta Map"
6. DIMENSION X "The Man in the Moon"  (I used to use a pair Binoculars to
gaze at the Moon after this)
7. ESCAPE "Taboo"  (We used to live Near a Dark Woods in Colorado)
8. SHADOW "The Creeper" (1937 Welles Version)
9. HALL OF FANTASY "The Steps That Follow Me"
[removed] TRAVELER "Behind the Locked Door"

These are in no particular order and no doubt exclude others. However, they
are unique in terrfying my childhood.

Sincerly,
Mike Kerezman

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:55:48 -0400
From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Vic and Sade; WNBC

Bill Idelson (Rush Gook), in an interview some years ago  alluded that P&G
destroyed a large number of Vic and Sade transcriptions. The tone of the
article implied that it occurred sometime in the 60's or 70's.

WNBC, New Britain, began operations in 1935 (March 12, according to a page
honoring WPOP's rock days) as WMFE. One day later it became WNBC and by 1941
was an NBC-Blue supplementary affiliate. The call was changed in August 1944
to WHTD.  WEAF's call change took place around 1946 or so.  The TV call's
assignment to New Britain changed Ch. 30's original WKNB-TV to WNBC-TV and
occurred after 1954. NBC purchased Ch. 30 and CBS bought WHCT Ch. 18, which
it subsequently let go in favor of affiliation in 1958 with the newly
signed-on VHF'er, WTIC-TV 3.

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:55:45 -0400
From: snopes <snopes@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Guess who's coming to dinner?

Jack A French <otrpiano@[removed]; writes:

Well, Bob, I'm not Jewish, but a lot of my friends are, and whether they
are "Marks" or "Marx", they never have a "Satyr dinner."

Sure they do.  It's a celebratory meal traditionally served at a table
featuring an elaborate centaurpiece.

 - snopes
Urban Legends Reference Pages --> [removed]

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:57:10 -0400
From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  tascam 122mk 111

hi
anyone out there have a schematic for the tascam 122mk 111
or point me in the direction of one, other than teac themselves
i live in boyertown pa if this would help, help
thanks, ed

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:57:06 -0400
From: andy ryan <anbryan2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  help!

I own an IMAC and all the otr shows on mp3 cds have
titles like:
44-1~O8MP3
or something similar.
There's no other info to be had and some of the
episodes, such as  on "The Cinnamon Bear", are not
even in order.  I had to go through each show, listen
to the title, write it down and then put them in order
on paper with the number that corresponded to the
title.
Any solutions to this problem?  I'd appreciate any
help, offline.

thanks,
andy ryan
anbryan2000@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:57:03 -0400
From: "michael edwards" <medwards_47@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: The War Hero

Poindexter mentions a great "Adventures in Odyssey" episode entitled "The
War Hero", featuring Parley Baer.  In addition to the site poindexter
mentioned, the episode is also available at [removed].  It's on page
3 of the "Adventures in Odyssey" section. Baer plays recurring character Joe
Finneman. Interestingly, the script was originally written for the show's
main character, John Avery Whittaker, played by Hal Smith.  (Andy Griffith's
"Otis").  But, Smith died before the script could be produced, so it was
re-written to suit Baer's character.

Michael Edwards

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:37:56 -0400
From: Jon Martin <mart459@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Minidiscs - slight correction to a post

Minidiscs are simple to use.
YES!
I record and index (a valuable asset) five  30 minute shows on a disc. And
Sony has brought out a long playing version of their recorder which can
quadruple the playing time. That recorder, however, is not yet in the
general
market in the US.
Wrong - available through your local Best Buy and Target stores for mass market
Sound quality for music is good, not fantastic in the new long play mode,
but great for OTR.
Close to CD quality, but not quite.
I save much-needed space compared to my old rtr format.
That is why I started with them as well
Unfortunately, the format has not been a rousing success in this country.
Yes and no. Last year minidiscs were the top selling digital format for
portable
recorders according to one article that I read (electronics marketing trade
rag).
The MP3 players from various manufacturers came in second. Minidiscs have
really come back over the past year.
Mylocal Best Buy store, which once carried and promoted the format, now now
longer carries recorders and I was told the company is going to , or has
already, dropped the line because of slow sales.
Old information - Best buy has started selling several different Sony
models again
since the format has had a real resurgance with the cheap media costs and
the portability
and MP3 popularity. I just picked up a low end recorder at Best Buy for
$150 with USB/audio interface.
If they can be selling them in backwater Milwaukee and having to reorder
[removed]
But just try and find pre-recorded discs - impossible.
I suspect you will see a lot more as soon as the USB/minidisc high speed
data link
becomes readily available - instead of the USB/sound interface.
For reference - (and to make it a little more OTR mailing list applicable)
- I save my downloaded
radio shows to CDR, but spool them off to minidisc to take with in my shirt
pocket. I can fit three minidisks and
a player in my shirt pocket and that takes care of 12-15 hours in the long
format. My shelves of tapes
is down to a plano  tackle box that has approx. 1000 hours of material. And
it is easy to set up with a radio to
record 5 hours of material then edit out what is not wanted when on the
road. I do the same thing but with a computer
at home since the editing is easier on the computer (capture and editing on
hard drive, not minidisc).

But since I did corrections, and do not want to start a flame war over
formats and portability,
please send all flames/complaints/questions/suggestions to my email
address: mart459@[removed]
rather than to the mailing list. Should I get a lot of the same
questions/complaints I will post a quick update
to the list with what the questions were and my (biased?) answers. (YMMV)

Thanks All. The information passed on this mailing list makes for wonderful
reading. Please keep it up!

Jon Martin

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:38:14 -0400
From: Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fw: Re:Shadow episodes

Since I couldn't reach Stephan using the e-mail
address provided (there was a flaw in it according
to the reply I received), I'm listing a few of my favorite
episodes of  "The Shadow" here on the mailing list.
Hopefully, he'll see it there.

Maybe some of the other members will have some
favorites to add to it.

Kenneth Clarke

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kclarke5@[removed]
To: stephanjansen@[removed]
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:40:30 -0700
Subject: Re:Shadow episodes
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed];

Stephan,

Per your request, here are a few Shadow episodes which I like:

"Death from the Deep", "Death in a Minor Key", "The Temple Bells
of Neban", "The Tenor  With The Broken Voice", "Society of the
Living  Dead", "The Ghost Wore A Silver Slipper", "The Man Who
Murdered Time", "Blood Money", "Horror in Wax", "When The Grave
Is Opened", "The Laughing Corpse", "Death Speaks Twice", "Ghosts
Can Kill", "The Fine Art of Murder", "Murder, Inc.", "The Comic Strip
Killer",  "The Precipice Called Death", "The Cat That Killed", "The
Little Man Who Wasn't There" (outstanding!), "The  League of Terror",
"The Shadow Challenged", "Death Rides A Broomstick", "Ghost Building"
"The Oracle of Death", "Murder From The Grave",  "The Plot That Failed"
"Mark of the Black Widow", and "The Silent Avenger".

This is a brief list of some of the episodes I like which  are in my
collection.
I hope this helps.

Kenneth Clarke
kclarke5@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:38:20 -0400
From: "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@[removed];
To: "OTR DIGEST" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Speaking of Charles McGraw

I just saw Charles McGraw in the Robert Mitchum Film BLOOD ON THE MOON
(1948). He Plays a bad guy initially at the begiiining of the Movie. You
cannot miss that voice of his.

Mike Kerezman

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:38:20 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: "Spider Boy," SHADOW and SUPERMAN, Satyr and Sedars

In a message dated 8/1/01 4:05:57 PM, Ken Piletic writes:

When I was much younger, l Iistened to The Shadow every week.
Most of the broadcasts were really scary.  One program, "Spider Boy"
(11-11-45) scared me more than any other radio show.

Many years later (1960's) I added a recording of "Spider Boy" to my
collection.  When I played it I found that although this was the same
show that I had heard in 1945, it was not scary at all.

I concluded two things from this observation:

1.  I was 8 years old when I heard the program the first time, and
     8 year-old kids scare easier than 23 year-old men.

2.  64 year-old men in the year 2001 are not as niave 8 year-olds
     or 23 year olds, either.

***To which I'd add:

3.  The original with Elsie Thompson's eerie organ accompaniment is far 
scarier than the happy-go-lucky canned music edited in by Charles Michelson 
in the circulating version.***

The world has changed a lot since 1945.  The audience of 2001 is
more sophisticated than the audience of 1945.  Yet, if you want
to hear what I still consider to be a "Great" Shadow episode, check
out "Spider Boy".   It's an interesting concept.

***I agree that "Spider Boy" is one of the great SHADOW episodes.  

Another is "Death in a Minor Key."  Both were performed twice during the run 
of the series, and both versions of "Death in a Minor Key" (with Richard 
Widmark in the key supporting role in both) are in circulation, which 
provides fans with an excellent opportunity to compare Bill Johnstone and 
Bret Morrison "side-by-side" performing the same script.  IMNSHO, Bill 
Johnstone comes off better, partly because he's supported by Marjorie 
Anderson and mostly because his baritone was better suited to THE SHADOW than 
Morrison's natural (and lighter) tenor.  

As others have recently mentioned, Bret Morrison was a superb radio actor.  
He was just stretching a bit to reach The Shadow's octave, unlike Johnstone 
who was there already.  Bret also gave a very good rendition of Superman and 
Clark Kent in a 1947 audition.  (I assume Collyer may have been holding out 
for more money when the show was revived after a lengthy hiatus.)  Come to 
think of it, Morrison would've been a fairly natural choice for Superman 
since he and Collyer were also both professional singers.  That's probably 
why both were so adept at instantly switching from Clark Kent's mild tenor to 
Superman's mighty baritone: "This is a job FOR SUPERMAN!"  Of course, Bret 
also switched vocal timber when he changed from Cranston into The Shadow.

Up, up and away, ANTHONY TOLLIN***

[removed]:  Joe Mackey writes:
Subject:  Satyr and Sedars

I don't want to make too much of this slip but a Sedar is the Jewish
Passover meal, very solemn, recalling the flight from Egypt when Moses
led his people out.  A Satyr is a sylvan diety of Greek mythology having
characteristics of a horse and found of revelry, and is also used to
describe a lecherous man.  (Its also a butterfly).
  The idea of an adult Jack Benny meeting a 12 year old girl at a Satyr
dinner boggles the mind! 

***I quite agree, though I have to admit that the only time in my life that I 
was ever drunk was at a Sedar dinner 30 years ago.  I remember looking at my 
good-buddy Margie and trying desperately to remember her name.  Lots of wine 
is consumed at Sedars . . . and also reportedly by Satyrs.***

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:47:49 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR death

As reported in July 27 issue of Entertainment Weekly:

"Emmy-winning writer Hal Goldman, 81, who penned jokes for Jack Benny, Carol
Burnett, George Burns and Flip Wilson, [died] reportedly of lung cancer,
June 27 in Los Angeles."

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:47:52 -0400
From: Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Re: Minidisc format for OTR

At 5:08 PM -0400 8/1/01, Jshnay1@[removed] wrote:

Minidiscs are simple to use.
I record and index (a valuable asset) five  30 minute shows on a disc. And
Sony has brought out a long playing version of their recorder which can
quadruple the playing time. That recorder, however, is not yet in the general
market in the US. I save much-needed space compared to my old rtr format.
Unfortunately, the format has not been a rousing success in this country. My
local Best Buy store, which once carried and promoted the format, now now
longer carries recorders and I was told the company is going to , or has
already, dropped the line because of slow sales. And minidiscs don't tie up
computers. I can listen to my program being recorded on minidisc while I am
working on my computer, as I am now.

I have a portable minidisc player/recorder but one of the older ones. I use
it in the car a lot with a cassette adapter.

I saw several of the new ones at Circuit City today. They claim "5 hours of
music on one disk" (presumably MP3) with USB connections to download from
your computer. They can apparently be used with either PC or Mac, and I'm
thinking of upgrading.

I seem to end up buying "obsolete" technology a lot. I still have a couple
of Betamax VCR's. :)

Steve
SoftWear Toys & Tees ([removed])

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:48:08 -0400
From: Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: OTR Parody

At 5:08 PM -0400 8/1/01, dabac@[removed] wrote:
A few issues back someone mentioned the firesign theater`s otr detective
parody "nick danger", I remembered hearing it years ago and recall it
was a very humorous bit. I was wondering if anybody knows of, or could
recommend any other good otr parodies?  Dan Bacca

I know practically the entire "Nick Danger" side of  Firesign's "Marx &
Lennon" album by heart. Just don't ask me to recite it - I probably will,
and without stopping :)

I have a rather obscure comedy record by a group calling themselves"The
Conception Corporation" with a cut that parodies radio soap operas called
"Love of Grass" complete with organ music and melodramatic narration. It
contains a lot of sixties drug references, rather like Firesign Theater
used to do. Though I don't have The Conception Corporation's second album,
there is supposed to be Chapter Two of the story on it. Even though the
sixties drug jokes seem a bit dated now (who ever thought that would
happen?) its still kind of funny.

There's also Stan Freeberg's "John & Marsha" and Spike Jones' "None But the
Lonely Heart" soap opera parodies. And there was a Stan Freeberg show done
specifically for records rather than broadcast (He calls it "Pay Radio")
that contains mentions of "The Shadow" and "The FBI in Peace and War" and
has what seems to be a recreation of his famous "Why Radio is Better Than
Television" skit with a giant bomber plane dropping a ten-ton cherry onto a
muntain of whipped cream.

These are just off the top of my head, and I hope I haven't misremebered
any details.

Steve
SoftWear Toys & Tees ([removed])

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:55:17 -0400
From: "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  poignant radio programs

Tonight I heard for the first time Norman Corwin's "50 Years After 14
August, 1945".  He wrote and directed it six years ago.  It's eloquent and
meaningful.  The production is not as impressive in On A Note Of Triumph
because there's no live orchestra and contains only three voices: Norman's,
Charles Kuralt and Pat Carol (sic?).  But I highly recommend it.

The first time I listened to "Odyssey of Runyon Jones" I got very choked up.
Given that it was written, produced and directed by Norman in his prime
period, AND that I'm a sucker for a dog in trouble (other animals too), I
was clobbered by the program.

Best,
Shiffy

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:55:19 -0400
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR parody

dabac@[removed] remarked,
At 5:37 PM -0400 8/1/01, OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:
A few issues back someone mentioned the firesign theater`s otr detective
parody "nick danger", I remembered hearing it years ago and recall it
was a very humorous bit. I was wondering if anybody knows of, or could
recommend any other good otr parodies?  Dan Bacca

I don't know at all if this can be found anywhere
presently, but I have an LP by Albert Brooks titled
"A Star is Bought" and the next to last track on it is
called "The Albert Brooks Show #112 (August 4, 1943)."
It's a 10-minute, dead-on reproduction of a Jack Benny-
type comedy/music show, even unto a dullish monaural sound
on an otherwise full-stereo LP.  Names acknowledged on the
jacket include Daws Butler, Pat Carroll, Art Gilmore and
Sheldon Leonard.  The whole LP is credited as "Written and
Produced by Albert Brooks and Harry Shearer," Harry,
of course, has direct experience with the format being
parodied. I don't know about Albert, but as was
mentioned here recently, he's the son of Harry
"Parkyakarkus" Einstein.
I haven't heard this skit in a very long time but
my memory is that it's not too funny, in a deliberate
sort of way.  A canned studio audience is howling
all the time, the way they used to do in bad '50s
tv sitcoms, and that's underneath some lame
modern jokes being told in this 40s variety style.
It's an audio concept, if you will.
More interesting than that on this LP is a track
called "Love Song" which is a corny pornographic
poem, semi-sung by a male voice over a rendition
of Ravel's "Bolero."  The record is dated 1975,
which means Albert and Harry anticipated the use
to which Blake Edwards put "Bolero", in his movie
"10," by several years.

However:  For more OTR parody, don't overlook
Stan Freberg - "St. George and the Dragonet"
may be the best OTR parody of all.  And stuff
he did on his own radio show is often of that
nature.

Then there's the complete work of Bob and Ray.
Heroes of the 20th century, in my humble opinion.

John Henley
Austin TX

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:50:44 -0400
From: "Steve Atlas" <slavacotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Memorable "Shadow" radio shows

Stephen Jansen wrote about the Shadow, asking if any of us can recommend
some memorable episodes. One of my favorites, the final show of the first
season--the season that starred Orson Welles and Agnes Moorehead (spelling
of Agnes' last name may be incorrect--if so, I apoligize)--is called "The
White Legion." It's a superb tale of how corruption and murder get foiled,
and has a fantastic dramatic conclusion. (I don't recall the exact date of
the broadcast.)

Stephen, if you have a chance, listen to that episode (or e-mail me
privately if you can't find it) and let me know what you think. What do you
other Shadow Fans think?

Steve Atlas

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:50:46 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Satyrs and Seders

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:22:52 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey5@[removed];

  I don't want to make too much of this slip but a Sedar is the Jewish
Passover meal, very solemn, recalling the flight from Egypt when Moses
led his people out.

Close, but not quite.  A seder is a celebration, and as such, it isn't all
that solemn.  Especially after a couple of cups of wine.  It's done in
order to fulfill the Biblical commandment to tell our children of the
exodus from Egypt.  As such, the seder is designed with a lot of singing
and other things to hold the interest of children.  Just try holding the
interest of children by being solemn!  At our family seder, I try to keep
my father's memory alive by repeating all of his best seder jokes.

  The idea of an adult Jack Benny meeting a 12 year old girl at a Satyr
dinner boggles the mind!  :)

Maybe it was Satyrday.


 A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
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