Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #390
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Date: 10/5/2002 3:03 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 390
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Foley Artist                          [ Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed] ]
      thank you                             [ "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed] ]
      Everett Clarke                        [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
      Player for car                        [ "Don Belden" <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      Today in radio history 10/4           [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      WOW Recreation and similar TV movies  [ "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail ]
      Re: The A&A Case                      [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Re: Salvaging reel [removed]           [ "Matthew Bullis" <MatthewBullis@run ]
      Re: Finding an MP3 Player for my car  [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      STRANGE DIGITAL LEGISLATION           [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      DJs killed network radio??            [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      The Cisco Kid, OTR Style              [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      John Reinke--Old Radio Magazine       [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Re: Too Much Advertising              [ "Jack Hartley" <jhartley@[removed]; ]
      Re: Noisy reel to reel tapes          [ "graham newton" <grahamnewton@hotma ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:20:05 -0400
    From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Foley Artist

    Michael Biel says
     >He is recruiting volunteer actors and Foley artists for the broadcast <snip>
     >I thought we had thoroughly explained to everyone long [removed]

    No Michael, you explained to this group of OTR fans.
    David Chamberlain was referencing Glen Beck's site which is modern day
    radio program and distribution system.

    In todays modern world, you have a much better chance
    of finding someone who has experience in creating the
    sound effects needed for a live broadcast by looking for a foley artist rather
    than a sound effects person.  Many of those who create
    "sound effects" today do NOT do it in real time, relying on effects
    processors, synthesizers and computer editing to create their final product
    which is edited into a production.  If you want "live real time"
    performance, then "foley" artist may have more experience.

    Robert Mott describes Jack's first work as "Foley decided to do the ocean and
    paddling sounds live in the studio rather than use the more conventional
    method of [removed]"

    (Mott, Robert L. Sound Effects  Radio, TV, and Film 1990 Focal Press p 192.)

    David Sonnenschein says that "Foley sounds are primarily those created to
    accompany the noisemaking movement of actors in real time."
    (Sonnenschein, David. (2001). Sound Design. Studio City, CA: Michael Wioese
    Productions. p 40)

    Neither of which would restrict a "foley artists" to motion pictures.

    While the traditional film foley artist is watching a picture projected on a
    screen
    ( or video monitor -  a change from Jack's technique due to changes in
    technology),
    when I do radio sound effects I am seeing the pictures in my head.

    For those interested, the program will be carried by XM radio
    on channel 166.

    For other recreations and halloween fun see:
    [removed]

    I'm just happy to see so many programs being broadcast or performed on
    the national holiday for audio theater / radio drama.
              Henry Howard
    radiodrama digest moderator
         [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:20:08 -0400
    From: "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  thank you

    Just a quick thanks to everyone that came through with the cure for noisy
    tapes
    George Coppen

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:20:09 -0400
    From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Everett Clarke

    Regarding recent postings on Everett Clarke, here is his
    obituary from the Sept. 17, 1980, issue of Variety.  This
    is all of it; it's from the end of the section, the type of lower-
    case obit Variety once included routinely but no longer does.

    "Everett Clarke, 68, a nationally-known drama coach and
    onetime title voice of the old network 'The Whistler' radio
    series, was stabbed to death Sept. 9 in his Chicago office.
    Among the other network radio shows on which Clarke was
    a cast member were 'The Shadow' and 'The Chicago Theater
    of the Air'."
    John Henley

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:26:03 -0400
    From: "Don Belden" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Player for car

    Hi Bruce,

    My Rio Volt will stop at any point in and OTR program, and I use a "cassette
    adapter" to connect it to my cassette player in the car.
    To save putting in batteries I use a cigarette plug in power source. Both
    are available from Radio Shack for about $40 dollars total. I attach the Rio
    Volt to the dash with "velcro" -- essential.
    Not an elaborate solution but it works.

    My Rio Volt is one of the originals, but I assume that the new models will
    work.

    Don in Denver

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:26:09 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history 10/4

     From Those Were The Days --

    1948 - Gordon MacRae hosted the premiere of a radio classic, The
    Railroad Hour which debuted on this date on ABC. The theme song was I've
    Been Working on the Railroad and the show was sponsored by -- get ready
    -- America's Railroads.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:40:18 -0400
    From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WOW Recreation and similar TV movies

    Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; writes:

>     From: Davidinmemphis@[removed] (David)

> >     . . . talk show host Glenn Beck is planning a live recreation of the
> >     H. G.  Wells War of the World on Wednesday night October 30th from
> >     8:00-9:00 [removed]  Eastern Time.  He is recruiting volunteer actors and
> >     Foley artists for the broadcast.       David Chamberlain

>     Oh, so I suppose he is planning on putting a new soundtrack to an
>     existing movie of the program?  If not, he would have no need for Foley
>     Artists.

    Well, it certainly wouldn't be the first time Glenn Beck confused facts with
    whatever he calls the content of his show. :-)

    As for the TV movie done in the 1980s about a South Carolina nuclear bomb
    incident that utilized the WOTW story-through-newscast style, that was an
    NBC video drama titled "Special Bulletin." One of the actors cast in it was
    Ed Flanders, who purposely imitated Frank Reynolds' on-camera conduct during
    the Reagan shooting coverage in 1981. Perhaps that was intended as an
    additional device to establish to the audience that this was indeed a
    fiction; despite this, and the disclaimer crawl across the screen,
    apparently some viewers still believed it to be real.

    I recall another TV drama along the same lines running on CBS a few years
    back, titled "Without Warning," about the impending collision of Earth and a
    giant asteroid. Anyone else recall that one?

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:41:32 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: The A&A Case

    On 10/4/02 4:23 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     When a man offered to pay CBS for the use of the name "Amos n' Andy" and
>     was turned down--and when the man sued and got Amos and Andy named as a
>     "generic"--this should have pointed out to the broadcast and legal worlds
>     the consequences of a corporations' holding onto something and totally
>     avoiding the  "fair use" clause of the copyright law.

    Not to reignite the copyright issue, but to clarify a bit -- it's
    important to note that the decision referred to here in connection with
    the A&A case (Silverman v. CBS Inc, 870 [removed] 40, 1989) had to do with the
    status of the "Amos 'n' Andy" trademark, registered by Correll and Gosden
    in 1928 and sold to CBS in 1948. CBS had failed to use the trademark in
    commerce for the twenty-two years between 1966 and 1988, and this was
    ruled evidence of abandonment. CBS therefore lost its claim on the
    trademark. You cannot lose copyright on any materials for failing to
    grant access to them or failing to use them in commerce -- but you *can*
    lose a trademark.

    The copyright ruling in the A&A case had nothing to do with fair use. The
    A&A episodes which were ruled as being in the public domain -- those
    aired before October 1948 -- were those which Correll and Gosden had
    registered with the copyright office as unpublished works. CBS acquired
    those copyrights when they bought out Correll and Gosden in September
    1948, but failed to renew them as they expired. Thus those episodes lost
    copyright protection.

    The episodes from October 1948 forward were an entirely different story,
    and the judge in the Silverman case ruled that the CBS copyrights on
    those episodes remain vaild.

    What the upshot of all this was is that the title, the pre-10/48
    episodes, and the characters *as delineated in the pre 10/48 episodes*
    are in the public domain. However, the episodes from 10/48 forward and
    all developments introduced into the series after that date (including
    such characters as Calhoun, the Amanda Randolph version of Mama, and
    Amosandra), as well as the A&A TV series are still owned by CBS.

    The text of the Silverman v. CBS ruling can be read on line at a number
    of legal-reference websites, including
    [removed];%20Readings/Copyright-UNT/amos'[removed]

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:41:42 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <MatthewBullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Salvaging reel [removed]

    I remember there was an All Things Considered segment on this subject a few
    years ago. Perhaps eight years ago? I don't know if you're able to do a
    search and find the audio of the segment, but it was pretty detailed and ran
    for perhaps 20 minutes.
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:42:08 -0400
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re:  Finding an MP3 Player for my car

    Bruce asked:

>     I am seeking a CD/MP3 player for my car that will actually remember where
>     I "left off"
>     when I stop playing an OTR program.  Currently I only have a player that
>     remembers
>     where MP3 music was stopped - but no OTR.  Can anyone advise me?

    I have an audible otis which I got through [removed] and it included a
    casette attachment which could be used in the car.
    If you want to see what that means and looks like go to [removed]

    Other models probably offer a similar converter or do they??

    ~Irene

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:42:13 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  STRANGE DIGITAL LEGISLATION
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    A bill, introduced Wednesday by Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., would
    essentially undo copyright provisions written into the controversial
    Digital Millennium Copyright Act, allowing consumers to make their own
    copies of such digital entertainment as movies, music and books.

    "Enhancing consumer rights and technology development are the key to
    copyright protection," Lofgren said in a statement.

    The measure also would allow consumers who have purchased a digital work
    to sell or give away their copy of that work in the same way that they
    would be able to barter, sell or trade traditional copies.

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:42:31 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  DJs killed network radio??

>     Not disc jockeys!

    Don't blame me -- how's THAT for a song cue --"Sinatra sings -- right
    after these annoying [removed]"

    The DJ

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:42:49 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Cisco Kid, OTR Style

    As pointed out by Jack French,

>     Well, he got the name from his creator, O. Henry (real name William
>     Sydney Porter, 1862-1910), an ex-con and prolific short story writer. In
>     1904 he wrote "The Caballero's Way" for McClure's magazine which is the
>     debut of the Cisco Kid. Except he's no hero, no kid (he's 25), and not
>     Latino.

    O. Henry was a prolific writer who ground out many famous short stories.
    Some of these have been adapted to plays.  Perhaps the most famous was
    "The Gift of the Magi," a bittersweet Christmas story of love and
    sacrifice.

    My father read "The Caballero's Way," and the first time he heard the
    opening of The Cisco Kid, he said, "That's silly.  The Cisco Kid wasn't a
    hero, and certainly no Robin Hood."  Oddly, the show always credited O.
    Henry at the show's opening.

    The radio version of The Cisco Kid was entertaining when I was growing
    up.  It was one of the shows I listened to regularly.  But the radio hero
    shouldn't be confused with the O. Henry character.  The radio version was
    clearly Hispanic, and heroic.

    ZStephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:43:00 -0400
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  John Reinke--Old Radio Magazine

     John Reinke had an item in the Old Radio Magazine.   I have tried
    reaching him by e-mail, but he is no longer at the address he used  in
    the article.  Can anyone help me?

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:09:40 -0400
    From: "Jack Hartley" <jhartley@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Too Much Advertising

    Good observation.  I listen to talk radio when I am in the car or doing some
    odd jobs around the house.  Returning from a board meeting about 60 miles
    from our home, I began to count commercials and time the phone calls.  I
    found the same thing happening.  One 3 or 4 minute phone call followed by 8
    minutes of commercials!  I only stayed on station to see how bad it would
    be.  From now on---tapes or music of my life stations!  Jack Hartley

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    Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:09:45 -0400
    From: "graham newton" <grahamnewton@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Noisy reel to reel tapes

    "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed]; said to the OTR [removed]
    On the subject: Noisy reel to reel tapes

>     I purchased twenty nine (29) 7" reel to reel tapes from a gent and when I
>     tried to record on the tapes I discovered a loud and very annoying squeal.
>     I think I remember seeing a cure for this problem in the Digest some time
>     ago but I cant remember what it was.

    The problem George describes is "sticky shed" and is common mostly to old
    reel to reel tape that was manufactured in the early 70's through as late as
    the early 90's by Ampex and 3M corporation.  Typically, many back coated
    tapes will exhibit the problem, and non-back coated tapes usually will not.

    It is not something that can be fixed, although affected tape can be
    rendered
    usable for a while, it will return to it's sticky state sooner or later.
    Read
    the article on my website about baking tape:-

    [removed]

    I deal with this kind of problem regularly, and would not recommend using
    a tape that has this problem where any other recording media is available.
    If possible, George should return the tape and ask for a refund.

    BTW:
    I had my 15 minutes of fame last Monday when the Toronto Star newspaper
    published a full page article on myself and my parther, reissue producer
    David Lennick which appeared on the front page of the business section.
    If you want to read the article, click on this link or copy and paste it
    into your browser, it should [removed] just make sure there are no breaks
    in [removed] it needs to be all one line.

    [removed]
    le_Type1&c=Article&cid=1026145814709&call_page=TS_Business&call_pageid=968350072
    197&call_pagepath=Business/News&col=969048863851

    If you have problems, go to the Star's main page:-

    [removed]

    the writer was Greg Gormick, and the article was in Monday's paper
    (Sept 30th), search on Greg Gormick you'll get a pointer to the article.

    ... Graham Newton

    Please reply to:  gn@[removed]

    Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, [removed]
    World class professional services applied to phonograph and tape
    recordings for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR processes.

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    Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:20:01 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1930 - The New York Philharmonic Orchestra was first heard on the air
    over CBS from Carnegie Hall. The Sunday afternoon concerts set CBS back
    $15,000. Not per week, but for the entire season.

    1930 - This was a big day for CBS. Following the orchestra broadcast
    (above), Father Coughlin, The Fighting Priest, was first heard on the
    radio. He lit up the airwaves with oratory that aired into the early
    forties.

    1934 - The first major network radio show to originate from Hollywood
    aired on this day. Hollywood Hotel was heard on CBS and was heavily
    promoted as being the first to broadcast from the West Coast.

    1952 - After an 11-year run on radio, Inner Sanctum, the legendary
    mystery series, was heard for the final time. We'll never know if they
    oiled that squeaky [removed]

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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