Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #134
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 5/3/2007 10:18 PM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 134
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      5-3 births/deaths                     [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Bob Hope                              [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Shavelson: LA Times                   [ Steve Carter <scarter2@[removed]; ]
      D'oh!                                 [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Bob Hope                              [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
      Don't You Know There's A War On?      [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed] ]
      Bob Hope                              [ "wr k" <wrk41@[removed]; ]
      Morgan Watkins' query re 'Reunion'    [ <verotas@[removed]; ]
      SUMMER WORK TIME                      [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
      Cincy Con and hotels                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      5-4 births/deaths                     [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 00:48:08 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-3 births/deaths

    May 3rd births

    I would like to wish Norman Corwin a very happy 97th birthday. I had
    the pleasure of meeting him during the 1990 convention in New Jersey.

    05-03-1880 - Horace Murphy - Finley, TN - d. 1-20-1975
    actor: Buckskin Blodgett "Red Ryder"
    05-03-1890 - Nick Dawson - Vineland, NJ - d. 12-28-1957
    actor: "Dangerous Paradise"; "Follow the Man"
    05-03-1892 - Beulah Bondi - Chicago, IL - d. 1-11-1981
    actor: "Free World Theatre"; "NBC University Theatre"
    05-03-1897 - Charlie Lung - England - d. 6-22-1974
    actor: Paul Sycamore "You Can't Take It with You"; "Wild Bill
    Hickok"; "Escape"
    05-03-1897 - Larry Puck - d. 10-26-1969
    producer: "Arthur Godfrey Time" Was one of Godfrey's many firings
    05-03-1898 - Golda Meir - Kiev, Russia - d. 12-8-1978
    israeli prime minister: "Meet the Press"
    05-03-1898 - John Roy - d. 5-31-1985
    actor: Roy Calvert "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
    05-03-1899 - George H. Combs - Lee's Summit, MO - d. 11-29-1977
    congressman, commentator: "Now You Decide"; "Spotlight, New York"
    05-03-1902 - Jack Larue - NYC - d. 1-11-1984
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-03-1902 - Walter Slezak - Vienna,  Austria - d. 4-21-1983
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Best Plays"; "Studio One"; "Columbia
    Workshop"
    05-03-1903 - Bing Crosby - Tacoma, WA - d. 10-14-1977
    singer: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Philco Radio Time"
    05-03-1905 - James Nusser - Cleveland, OH - d. 6-8-1979
    actor: "Gunsmoke"
    05-03-1905 - William Brown Meloney - NYC - d. 5-4-1971
    writer: "Claudia and David"
    05-03-1906 - Anna Roosevelt - Hyde Park, NY - d. 12-1-1975
    Daughter of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. On her mother's programs
    05-03-1906 - Mary Astor - Quincy, IL  - d. 9-25-1987
    actor: Mary Christmas "Merry Life of Mary Christmas"
    05-03-1907 - Earl Wilson - Rockford, OH - d. 1-16-1987
    columnist: "Earl Wilson's Broadway Column"
    05-03-1909 - Fort Pearson - d. 2-19-1989
    announcer: "Beat the Band"; "Queen for a Day"; "Hoosier Hot Shots"
    05-03-1910 - Curt Massey - Midland, TX - d. 10-21-1991
    singer: "Show Boat"; "Curt Massey Show"
    05-03-1910 - Norman Corwin - Boston, MA
    writer, director: "Columbia Presents Corwin"; "Twenty-Six by Corwin"
    05-03-1911 - Yank Lawson - Trenton, MO - d. 2-18-1995
    trumpet: "The Bob Crosby Show"
    05-03-1919 - Betty Comden - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-23-2006
    writer, actor: "Revuers"
    05-03-1919 - Doris Rich - Canada - d. 5-18-1971
    actor: Hannah O'Leary" Houseboat Hannah"; Miss Daisey "Portia Faces
    Life"
    05-03-1919 - Pete Seeger - NYC
    folk singer, songwriter: "Off the Page"
    05-03-1920 - John Lewis - LaGrange, IL - d. 3-29-2001
    co-founder of "Modern Jazz Quartet": :Modern Jazz Quartet";
    "Listener's Digest"
    05-03-1920 - Nina Bara - Buenos Aires, Argentina - d. 8-15-1990
    actor: Tonga "Space Patrol"
    05-03-1921 - Joe Ames - Malden, MA
    singer,: (Ames Brothers) "Sing It Again"; "Robert Q. Lewis Show"
    05-03-1921 - Sugar Ray Robinson - Detroit, MI - d. 4-12-1989
    pugilist: "Destination Freedom"; "Heat It Now"
    05-03-1922 - Elizabeth Lawrence - d. 6-11-2000
    actor: Francie Brent "Road of Life"
    05-03-1927 - Rosemary Rice - Montclair, NJ
    actor: Betty Cooper "Archie Andrews"; Jill Malone "Young Doctor Malone"

    May 3rd deaths

    02-02-1920 - Hughie Green - London, England - d. 5-3-1997
    host: "Opportunity Knocks"
    02-19-1899 - Carl Matthews - Oklahoma Territory - d. 5-3-1959
    actor: "The Cuckoo Hour"
    02-26-1914 - Robert Alda - NYC - d. 5-3-1986
    singer: "Rudy Vallee Presents the Drene Show"
    03-16-1894 - Elizabeth Lennox - Ionia, MI - d. 5-3-1992
    singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "American Album of Familiar
    Music"
    04-20-1904 - Bruce Cabot - Carlsbad, NM - d. 5-3-1972
    actor: "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "Hollywood on the Air"
    05-02-1902 - Erin O'Brien-Moore - Los Angeles, CA - d. 5-3-1979
    actor: Elsa Banning "Big Sister"
    05-02-1905 - Sidney Skolsky - NYC - d. 5-3-1983
    newspaper columnist: "Songs by Arlen, Stories by Skolsky"; "Bromo
    Seltzer Program"
    05-30-1926 - Christine Jorgenson - The Bronx, NY - d. 5-3-1989
    actor: "Whatever Became [removed]"
    06-14-1914 - Nat Polen - NYC - d. 5-3-1981
    actor: Edward McCormick "Indictment" "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    07-04-1902 - George Murphy - New Haven, CT - d. 5-3-1992
    actor, emcee: "Let's Talk Hollywood"; "Hollywood Calling"
    08-13-1908 - Gene Raymond - NYC - d. 5-3-1998
    actor: John J. Malone "Amazing Mr. Malone"; "Witness"; "Hollywood Hotel"
    08-14-1914 - Bill Downs - Kansas City, MO - d. 5-3-1978
    newscaster: CBS Moscow 1942
    10-30-1908 - Patsy Montana - Hot Springs, AK - d. 5-3-1996
    yodeling country singer: "WLS Barn Dance"
    10-30-1927 - Joe Adcock - Coushatta, LA - d. 5-3-1999
    baseball player: "Baseball: An Action History"
    11-30-1903 - Frank Worth - Debrezin, Hungary - d. 5-3-1990
    orchestra leader: "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"; Those Websters"

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 01:32:39 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bob Hope

>     Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:55:09 -0400
>     From: "John Southard" <jsouthard@[removed];

>     It seems in a Hope momologue, Hope asked, "What is a fisherman's
>     delight?"  "One night on Veronica Lake." Hope's lawyers had to
>     search world maps to find a lake named Veronica to prevent a
>     lawsuit.

    Funny, but there was a lake called "Veronica Lake" in Rocky and
    Bullwinkle cartoons.  Moosylvania was said to be on the Isle of Lucy
    (say it fast), in the middle of Veronica Lake.  It was also said to
    be the only territory in dispute between the US and Canada.  We say
    it's theirs, and they say it's ours!

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:32:31 -0400
    From: Steve Carter <scarter2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Shavelson: LA Times

    Here is an interesting article about Mel Shavelson. He talks about
    being a writer for the Bob Hope radio show:

    "Hope always made it clear who was boss. Once a week, on payday, the
    writers would show up at Hope's house, which had a circular stairway
    leading to his upstairs office. Hope would stand out on the balcony,
    fashion the paychecks into paper airplanes and toss them down."

    more:

    [removed],1,[removed]

    Steve
    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:32:28 -0400
    From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  D'oh!

    I see I misinterpreted next year's hotel plans at Cincy.  Thanks to all
    who corrected me.

    -chris holm

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:45:16 -0400
    From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bob Hope

    In 1966 I saw a typical Bob Hope military show at Tan Son Nhut Air Base in
    Saigon.

    It ran for about two hours, and it included a segment of humor specifically
    directed to the events and foibles of the Base ("in" jokes, ribbing ranking
    officers, etc.). This was fun to watch because I was a member of the 7th Air
    Force's Public Affairs Office who was asked months before to supply the Hope
    people with humorous ideas and suggestions. We brainstormed and I felt like
    a member of a comedy writers' meeting for a radio show!

    Anyway, I do not recall ANY over the top sexual joke by Bob Hope in his two
    hours. Racy and suggestive, yes, but definitely never offensive. (Damn!)

    BILL KNOWLTON

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 12:43:24 -0400
    From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Don't You Know There's A War On?
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    Was the BBC documentary "Don't You Know There's A War On?" (sold as an
    audiobook by Radio Collection) ever aired on the BBC?

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 12:43:44 -0400
    From: "wr k" <wrk41@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bob Hope
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       Hope was risque on more then one occasion, both on radio and [removed]
       recall a TV show from the sixties, not long after Walter Jenkins,
       Chief of Staff (I believe?) to President Lyndon Johnson, had been
       caught soliciting in the men's room of the YMCA, just a few blocks
       from the White [removed] Hope commented on it in his monologue, saying
       "Wasn't that something about Walter Jenkins. The thing that surprised
       me was I would have thought a man earning as much as Walter does could
       afford to eat at a better place then the [removed]!"  This went out
       uncensored. I know because I saw and heard [removed] As a teenager, I
       caught on immediately, while my parents sat there perplexed as to just
       why the audience was laughing so [removed] Alas, I don't think I ever
       explained it to [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 12:44:36 -0400
    From: <verotas@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Morgan Watkins' query re 'Reunion'

    Perhaps somewhat off-topic, but to answer Morgan Watkins' request, [removed] -

>     Does anyone know where one could purchase a collection of an old radio
>     show, "Reunion"? It is a show, starting around 1948, where Holocaust
>     survivors are reunited with their families? I heard a segment from the
>     "Yiddish Radio Project" services that was on NPR and was fascinated.  Any
>     pointers . . . appreciated.

    My wife and I recently finished reading 'The Shadow Man' (in German, 'Der
    Schattenmann').  A finely crafted, mesmerizing mystery, it contains a
    fascinating wealth of information about the Holocaust, its survivors and
    victims.  You will not want to put it down as you experience what it was like
    on those trains and their ultimate destinations.  Written by John Katzenbach,
    author of 'Just Cause'.

    For those interested in the Holocaust and its aftermath, we also recommend a
    video called 'Paperclips' about what school children in heartland America
    have done and are doing to educate themselves and millions of others about
    that horrific time in recent history.

    I just looked them up - there are numerous copies of book and video now
    selling on eBay and other online sources.  Usual disclaimers apply - a great
    read on one hand and engrossing video on the other.

    Bestus - Lee Munsick         That Godfrey Guy

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:26:25 -0400
    From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  SUMMER WORK TIME
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    Greetings, gates.
    As my much neede Summer break rolls around, I am in need of OTR materials for
    various projects I plan to complete this "vacation" period.
    I am looking for the following items: 1) inexpensive back issues of NOSTALGIA
    DIGEST; 2) a good reference work concerning BOB & RAY and their careers; and
    3) recordings of newscasts(and/or newspaper reproductions) regarding the
    events following the infamous WAR OF THE WORLDS broadcast in 1938.
    I can't reveal as yet why I need these things, but any educators on this
    digest who use OTR in the classroom could/ might have a solid, new resource
    within the coming year. I [removed]
    Finally, I am still hoping to attend the REPS Convention this June and was
    wondering if anyone has information/ stories to share on or offline about that
    annual meeting. Furthermore, I am trying to save on costs(I know it shocks all
    of you to know that an educator is not in the big bucks) and hoping that
    someone might be willing to share travel costs, room, [removed]
    As usual, any information will be helpful and deeply appreciated.

    Best,
    Randy Story
    West Plains, MO
    (where I hope to be announcing a first-ever OTR Convention for Summer, 2008!)

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 22:24:53 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cincy Con and hotels

    Yes, the hotel had issues at Cincy, but honestly, those are what I would
    refer to as "isolated incidents."  Stephen Jansen took pictures of his room
    and he and I forwarded them to Charlie to see the hilarious scenes of a
    hotel going down hill.  My room had no flaws at all, so Stephen and his
    sister Lora had the one room that must have been left over from a stag
    party.  A few people had a complaint or two, but they were very minor and
    MOST people did not have a complaint.  If one person has a bad time at a
    hotel or motel, revisiting the same place again doesn't guarentee a bad time
    a second time.

    Dan Hughes hit the nail on the head when it came to the reason why.  The
    hotel had been purchased and will be under new ownership by next year's
    convention.  Whenever a hotel chain is purchased by another, the
    present/previous owner won't put up much expenses on maintenance for the
    obvious reason: why?  It's not their hotel anymore.  That's the job of the
    new owners when they move in.

    Next year I have no doubt the hotel will be better run and nicer looking.
    Still, the hotel was not that bad.  I've been to hotels that were so
    horrible that I can't help by cry with laughter and wish I had a digital
    camera and wondered if the people who put on their convention wasn't
    embarrassed.

    Having walked on the same side of the tighrope, I can say that it's not Bob
    Burchett's fault.  And thankfully no one is throwing the blame on him.  It
    was the hotel's fault.  Anyone can book a convention or meeting in a hotel
    and six months later, when everyone arrives, the hotel is in a sorry state
    of condition than it was six months before.  This can happen.

    Most people do not know this, and I'll let it on now as it's VERY important:
    but anyone who wants to put on a convention at a hotel generally has two
    options.  One, pay a flat rental rate (fee) for the use of the rooms which
    is expensive or Two, pay a smaller rental rate (fee) and guarantee the hotel
    for a number of room bookings.

    Example:  Holding a convention in one big ballroom at a hotel costs $4,000
    for the weekend.  But if the person who puts on the convention guarantees a
    minimum of 150 rooms booked, the rental rate is $[removed] - but if 150 rooms
    is not booked, the price is $5,000.
    Most people who put on a convention prefer to go the second route.  Which is
    why at Newark's FOTR convention and other conventions I've been at, fliers
    specifically state "mention FOTR when booking your room" or "discount room
    price if you tell them you're coming in for the convention."  If you are
    attending a convention, please consider choosing the hotel it's being held
    at.  The people who run those conventions need the support.  Imagine in 90%
    of the attendees next year at Cincy decide to book their room across the
    street at the motel.  ("Wow!  Instead of paying $[removed] a night I now pay
    $[removed]!)  The scenario would mean the operators of the conventions would
    have a devil of a time paying for the convention, and ths risk not having
    any more in the future.  Just something to consider when attending
    conventions.

    It reminds me, in closing, of the female attendee at a convention in
    Southern Jersey.  She was complaining that the hotel where the convention
    was held, and how it was run down and all she did was complain.  If it
    wasn't the missing ceiling tiles, it was the lack of complimentaries in her
    room.  Of course, when I mentioned the convention in NYC I once attended and
    I recalled seeing her there, and how that hotel was dust-free (it was that
    nicely run), she complained about the $[removed] per night hotel room and
    wouldn't stop complaining.  Moral of the story: if you want superb service
    and quality comfort, it's going to cost.  If you prefer economics, then we
    have to laugh and forget all about the holes in the walls.  Me, I prefer the
    laugh - even when Stephen Jansen (ala The Bone Collector) photographed a
    dollar bill alongside the mold on the shower curtain for size comparison.
    That's too funny.  It rocks.  And I'll be at the same hotel in Cincy next
    year.

    Martin

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 22:25:48 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-4 births/deaths

    May 4th births

    05-04-1874 - Frank Conrad - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 12-11-1941
    "the father of radio broadcasting" Started radio station KDKA in his
    garage
    05-04-1886 - Earl Lee - Topeka, KS - d. 6-2-1955
    actor: Fred Thompson "One Man's Family"
    05-04-1896 - Dr. Frank Baxter - Camden, NJ - d. 1-18-1982
    actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    05-04-1903 - Elmer Leyden - Davenport, IA - d. 6-30-1973
    football player: "One of the Four Horseman" "Information Please"
    05-04-1903 - Luther Adler - NYC - d. 12-8-1984
    actor: Peter Gentle "Mystery Without Murder"; "Greatest Story Ever
    Told (1938-39)"
    05-04-1904 - Gray Gordon - d. 7-23-1976
    bandleader: "The Magic Key of RCA"
    05-04-1909 - Ed Max - Georgia - d. 10-17-1980
    actor: Mr. Gallagher "Voyage of the Scarlet Queen"
    05-04-1909 - Howard Da Silva - Cleveland, OH - d. 2-16-1986
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Forecast"; "Suspense"
    05-04-1913 - Carroll Moore, Jr. - Somerville, MA - d. 2-5-1977
    writer: "The Henry Morgan Show"
    05-04-1913 - Joe Aleman - d. 1-2-1996
    disk jockey: KPRL Paso Robles, California
    05-04-1916 - Jean Carroll - Toledo, OH - d. 7-6-1990
    comedienne: "The Sealtest Village Store"
    05-04-1921 - Patsy Garrett - Atlantic City, NJ
    singer: "Broadway Matinee"; "Jackie Gleason-Les Tremayne Show"
    05-04-1924 - Gene Klaven - Baltimore, MD - d. 4-8-2004
    new york morning personalty: "Klaven and Finch"; "Klaven in the Morning"
    05-04-1924 - Merrill Mael - d. 10-16-2000
    actor: Uncle Fletcher "Vic and Sade"
    05-04-1927 - Terry Scott - Watford, England - d. 7-26-1994
    actor: "Junior Choice"; "Great Scott, It's Maynard"; "Hugh and I"
    05-04-1929 - Audrey Hepburn - Brussels, Belguim - d. 1-20-1993
    actor: "[removed] Story"; "Stagestruck"
    05-04-1930 - Gordon Gould - Chicago, IL
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    May 4th deaths

    02-05-1893 - Carlton Coon - Rochester, MN - d. 5-4-1932
    bandleader: (Coon-Sanders Nighthawks) "Florsheim Frolic"
    05-02-1916 - Two Ton Baker - Chicago, IL - d. 5-4-1975
    singer, pianist: "Tip Top Lunch Program"
    05-03-1905 - William Brown Meloney - NYC - d. 5-4-1971
    writer: "Claudia and David"
    06-10-1898 - Norman Brokenshire - Murcheson, Ontario, Canada - d.
    5-4-1965
    announcer: "Music That Satisfies"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
    06-14-1891 - Elaine Sterne Carrington - NYC - d. 5-4-1958
    creator-writer: "Pepper Young's Family"; "Rosemary"; "When a Girl
    Marries"
    06-19-1897 - Moe Howard - Bensonhurst, NY - d. 5-4-1975
    original stooge: (Three Stooges) "Whatever Became of . . . .?"
    10-23-1931 - Diana Dors - Swindon, Wiltshire, England - d. 5-4-1984
    actor: "Earplay"
    11-13-1925 - Ed Backey - Havre de Grace, MD - d. 5-4-1988
    disk jockey: WTOW Towson, Maryland
    11-23-1915 - John Dehner - Staten Island, NY - d. 5-4-1992
    actor: Paladin "Have Gun, Will Travel"; [removed] Kendall "Frontier
    Gentleman"; "Gunsmoke"

    Ron Sayles

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