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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 93
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Lone Ranger Creed [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
78 verses 33: [ "Bob and Carol Taylor" <shadowcole@ ]
3-13 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Nat Hentoff / Father Couglin [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
Stacy Harris [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
from Milton Berle's obit in the "Tor [ David Howell <daveeaston@[removed]; ]
Superman radio scripts [ Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed]; ]
Morse/Vail telegraph code [ Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed] ]
fred allen / jack benny gag [ Ruk77@[removed] ]
SFX staff as Actors/Ray Erlenborn [ Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed] ]
Re: Rupert Holmes Citings [ StevenL751@[removed] ]
Hotel Reservations - Cincinnati Conv [ Paulurbahn@[removed] ]
Re: New Audio Drama - involving kids [ StevenL751@[removed] ]
Welcome aboard! [ Wich2@[removed] ]
N-TR venue? [ Wich2@[removed] ]
improvements in crystal radios; rock [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
LS/MFT vs 903 [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
Wonderfears, Charlie McCarthy [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
[ "thomas pawlak" <kalwap77@worldnet. ]
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:12:13 -0500
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger Creed
joe@[removed] asked about "The Lone Ranger's Creed". This site shows a
version that you can print and frame.
(Note that it contains an autograph and a sponsor's logo.):
[removed]
Herb Harrison
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:12:32 -0500
From: "Bob and Carol Taylor" <shadowcole@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 78 verses 33:
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When shows were recorded for later broadcast on the network were they recorded
on 33 and 2thrds or 78 and 1thrd on 12 inch?
I know I've have seen some 12 inch records recorded on 78 speed and have seen
an old 12 inch record on 33 that was not vinel, or at least didn't feel like
it.
Bob Taylor
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:13:14 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 3-13 births/deaths
March 13th births
03-13-1873 - Nellie Revell - Springfield, IL - d. 8-12-1958
commentator: "Neighbor Nell"; "Meet the Artist"
03-13-1896 - Leona Powers - Salida, CO - d. 1-7-1970
actress: Mrs. Bixby "My Son Jeep"; [removed] Brown "Aldrich Family"
03-13-1905 - Olga Albani - Barcelona, Spain
singer: "Coca-Cola Hour"; "Silken Strings"
03-13-1907 - Frank Wilcox - DeSoto, MO - d. 3-3-1974
actor: Father "Central City"
03-13-1908 - Paul Stewart - NYC - d. 2-17-1986
actor: Gyp Mendoza "Life Can Be Beautiful"; Richard Rogue "Rogue's Gallery"
03-13-1910 - Sammy Kaye - Lakewood, OH - d. 6-2-1987
bandleader: (Swing and Sway with Sammy Kaye) "Sunday Serenade"
03-13-1913 - Harold J. Stone - NYC
actor: Sergeant Waters "Twenty First Precinct"
March 13th deaths
01-20-1898 - Tudor Owen - Wales, UK - d. 3-13-1979
actor: Jocko Madigan "Pat Novak for Hire"; Editor "Alias Jane Doe"
07-21-1895 - Ken Maynard - Vevey, IN - d. 3-13-1973
cowboy actor: Ken Maynard Show"
10-18-1910 - Annette Hanshaw - NYC - d. 3-13-1985
singer: "Show Boat"; "Camel Caravan"
11-24-1912 - Garson Kanin - Rochester, NY - d. 3-13-1999
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
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Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:13:34 -0500
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Nat Hentoff / Father Couglin
Nat Hentoff references his childhood nemesis Father Coughlin in this article
on "The Passion."
Hentoff has written about the fear Coughlin engendered among Boston Jews
because his sermons led directly to beatings by some of the lesser evolved
residents of the city, which he makes reference to in this article as well.
Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]
[removed]
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:22:39 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Stacy Harris
Just came across this one.
07-26-1918 - Stacy Harris - Big Timber, Quebec, Canada - d. 3-13-1973
actor: Jim Taylor "This is Your [removed]"; Carter Trent "Pepper Young's Family"
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Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:08:27 -0500
From: David Howell <daveeaston@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: from Milton Berle's obit in the "Toronto Sun"
It has been said that Milton Berle sold more
television sets than any other performer. "I did a lot
to help the sale of TV sets," Berle once said. "When I
went on, my brother sold his, my sister sold hers
...."
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:56:17 -0500
From: Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Superman radio scripts
I just purchased The Superman Radio Scripts vol 1
containing the Atom Man series. Does any one know if
there will be a volume 2 published? Also are there any
other scripts out there for purchase in book stores or
on line?
Allen
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:00:46 -0500
From: Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Morse/Vail telegraph code
Bill Orr is apparently a telegraph historian, so I bow to his expertise,
which undoubtedly is far better than mine. This is not my forte.
Mr. Orr will undoubtedly know the name of my friend Commander E. J. Quimby,
author of "Ida Was A Tramp" about his early experiences on the tramp steamer
Ida, as a very early radio-telegraph operator. If only he were still here,
I'll bet he could shed a lot of light on this.
I mentioned that I attended the Alfred Vail Junior High School, located a
short distance (property next door) from the famous "red barn" where Morse
and Vail conducted their telegraph experiments and development. The barn was
faded to pink when I toured it, but since has been restored to its proud
barn-red as part of "Historic Speedwell Village" on the site near Morristown
NJ.
Mr. Orr will recognize the name Lidgerwood, part of the Vail family which
owned the Speedwell Iron Works and associated activities in the area. When I
was in Junior High, there was still an elderly Miss Lidgerwood (actually, I
think two maiden sisters) living in the family home next to the barn. They
encouraged our school to have the students tour the barn, etc.
It was their very clear claim that the code should have been named "Vail" (or
perhaps at least both Vail and Morse). It can well be claimed, of course,
that they were biased and may have been themselves fed family propaganda. I
simply pass on what we were told.
That, as they say, is history. We all know what Henry Ford said about that.
Bestus, Lee Munsick That Godfrey Guy
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:05:36 -0500
From: Ruk77@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: fred allen / jack benny gag
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Does anyone know the actual date of the Fred Allen show where Jack Benny's
Pants were supposed to have been torn off and the logo LSMFT were to have been
Printet on Jacks drawers??? I would LOVE to hear that one? thanks to anyone!!!
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:15:03 -0500
From: Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: SFX staff as Actors/Ray Erlenborn
I believe Ray Erlenborn monitors these meanderings, and I hope he will chime
in now.
In any case, Ray was not only a veteran SFX expert, but had a long career as
an actor, spanning decades. I have noted here some time ago that he was Red
Skelton's sound effects man for many years. Every once in a while popped up
as part of the story line and as a character on the show, both on radio and
on [removed] have at least one Skelton TV program in which he appears to kid
Skelton.
Ray appeared in several movies around the late 1940s and 50s. I have one,
and a copy of another in which the critical opening scene in a radio studio
including Ray, has been edited out!
Starting out as a child actor, Ray assembled quite a resume. He tells me he
appeared as a child extra in the original film "Ben Hur" starring Ramon
Novarro and Francis X. Bushman. Ray told me in great detail how to spot him
as one of probably thousands watching the famous Ben Hur Chariot Race. He
was seen also in various other films, as well as stage productions. So he
had full acting credentials, and belonged to the appropriate actors unions
and guilds. And he could confirm that he was paid as an actor and as a sound
effects man when he appeared as both.
Sort of like the early days in TV when a stagehand would be shown on screen.
Dave Garroway, in his marvelous Chicago weekend program "Garroway at Large",
would wander around the NBC caverns in the Merchandise Mart, and deliberately
say hello to stagehands as he walked by them. They would, of course, say
"Hi, Dave" back to him, and thus earn payment for a seen-and-speaking part,
albeit brief.
We love you, Ray! And your beautiful child bride Meridy! Best to you both.
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:40:23 -0500
From: StevenL751@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Rupert Holmes Citings
In a message dated 3/13/2004 10:22:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
OTR Fan Favorite Rupert Holmes has a new show out - with some reviews coming
up. Cross your fingers and hope we'll be able to ask him about these as
well
as Remember WENN at next year's FOTR -
Actually "Accomplice" isn't a new show. It played on Broadway for 52
performances in the spring of 1990 and has made frequent appearances at local
theaters ever since. The Broadway production starred Jason Alexander and
Michael
McKean. I remember seeing the show there and that it was a fun
comedy-thriller
with some good twists along the way.
Steve Lewis
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:43:53 -0500
From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hotel Reservations - Cincinnati Convention
I want to follow up on what Bob said about there is still room in the Best
Western in Cincinnati. My wife works in the tourism industry and she will tell
you to call the local motel not the national 800 number. The major chains will
set up so many rooms as available from the 800 number, and when that number is
reached the 800 number will tell you the motel is full. If you call the local
motel you get the actual reservations people and there are usually rooms
left. It is done that way so the national 800 people will not acidently "over
book" the motel.
This will help not only on Cincinnati but anytime you are traveling.
Hope this helps
Paul Urbahns
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:48:54 -0500
From: StevenL751@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: New Audio Drama - involving kids, humor
and horror.
In a message dated 3/13/2004 10:22:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
I just finished recording an audio drama and wanted to know if there was a
direction I could be following to get it heard and in some sort of
mainstream listening pool.
You may want to repeat your posting on the "Radio Drama" list, a group
similiar to this one but focusing on new audio drama. Many of the movers and
shakers in the world of MAD ("modern audio drama") read and contribute to the
list.
You can subscribe by sending an e-mail to: radiodrama-request@[removed] .
Steve Lewis
[ADMINISTRIVIA: To expand a little, the RadioDrama mailing list, operated by
Henry Howard of the Atlanta Radio Theatre Company, is a list to discuss the
_production_ of Modern Audio Drama; although there are occasionally
critiques, it isn't set up as a discussion list about the medium, but for
those working in the medium. To subscribe, send a message with the word
SUBSCRIBE in the SUBJECT of your message to radiodrama-request@[removed],
and you'll receive a confirmation message directly. If it's clickable in your
mail client, you can hit:
mailto:radiodrama-request@[removed]
--cfs3]
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:40:18 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Welcome aboard!
From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
Hello Again --
(Geez, what took ya?)
Lloyd Nesbitt got me to join the group after forwarding some
letters from people wondering if I were still alive.
Great to see you here, & a hearty welome to one of the real Old Heads of the
field!
(For latecomers, Jim wrote one of the earliest, & most fun, books on OTR; had
one of the first catalogs of cassettes - which I early-on ordered from; AND
has a Brace/RANGER connection - tell 'em, Jim!)
The Johnston Smith company (still going, but
with only some faint echo of what we knew and loved) sold a tiny crystal
radio
God bless 'em. They furnished mine in the early 70'[removed] As well as, among
other treasures, my hand-cranked 8mm projector, now languishing on evil-bay!
James & The Wife also gave this greenie one of the warmest welcomes, at one
of my first FOTR'[removed]
Stick around, & post often!
All the best,
-Craig Wichman
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:51:57 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: N-TR venue?
From: Dino <pangier@[removed];
I just finished recording an audio drama and wanted to know if there was a
direction I could be following to get it heard
Dear Dino-
If you can listen to it objectively, & you then hear it as really
professional, a good place to start is:
[removed].
(Tell Sue that I sent you!)
Good luck. Keep your expectations realistic; exposure is easier to come by
than [removed]
Best,
Craig Wichman
Quicksilver Radio Theater
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 14:58:32 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: improvements in crystal radios; rocket radios
Much later, as a teen ager or even in my early twenties I had a pocket
rocketship radio that operated on a crystal inside, came with a modern
earphone that fit in your ear like a hearing aid.
The brand name is DaMert and they have a web site with the thing shown, but
apparently sell wholesale only. The radio is cute and includes a spool of
wire for an antenna and a prewired antenna lead with an alligator clip. It
is the type of crystal set that has a diode in a glass bead, not the type
with a
fussy cat whisker. I have it connected to the computer desk frame and get
two
stations. [removed]
Scroll right about 60% of the page width. Don Shenbarger
General Mills had the same radio--in a beige-painted aluminum
case--available as a Cheerios write-in premium. It was called the "Midget
Monitor Radio," and I loved it.
These radios have two features that old crystal radios did not. One is the
germanium diode detector, which is the 'crystal' part of any crystal radio.
These are, for reasons that I should go over to the bookshelf and look up,
far more efficient and sensitive than any galena crystal could be.
Less obvious is the tuning coil. This corresponds to the 'oatmeal box'
portion of the typical old home-built crystal set. The tuning coil of the
modern radios have a black slug that slides through the coil to tune in
different stations. That slug is made of a sophisticated compound of iron
oxides known as 'ferrite,' and enables the coil to be made so that it
wastes very little signal power and, coincidentally, allows nearby stations
to be separated from each other quite well. Most automobile radios used the
same tuning scheme.
That pinkish 'hearing aid' crystal headphone that's used with the modern
radios is another interesting feature that contributes greatly to the
performance of the 'new' crystal radios. I have no idea where or when this
was developed; only that it is possibly the best device of its kind. It is
extremely efficient, which means that it takes almost no electric power to
operate. This is important, because in a crystal radio, all of the electric
power used to create the sound you hear must come from the radio waves from
the station. This is a very, very small amount of power. It takes a good
deal more power to operate an old-fashioned magnetic earphone than one of
the newer pink crystal earphones. That color, however, is pretty horrible.
Monaural component-built hi-fi sets of the 1950's generally consisted of a
speaker, an amplifier, a pre-amplifier, a turntable, and an FM-only tuner.
My father had one of these setups. For whatever reason, high-grade AM
tuners weren't readily available then. Thus one company, whose name I
forget, designed and marketed a small AM tuner that could be plugged into
the system's pre-amplifier. It had no tubes and required no electric
power--in fact, its circuitry was almost the same as that found in the
'rocket' crystal radio that Mr Shenbarger mentions above.
Mark Kinsler
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:23:33 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: LS/MFT vs 903
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Hi Gang -
In issue 91 of the OTR digest, Harry Machin Jr. inquired about
... a slogan preceeding LS/MFT ... a combination letters [removed]
Perhaps Harry is remembering "903", which was used by Raleigh
cigarettes (not Lucky Strike) in the 1950's. The number "903"
was used as a non-sequitur in a variety of radio programs, and
the listeners were supposed to guess what it meant.
As I recall, it was Art Linkletter who announced on "People are Funny"
that "903" meant "Coupons Are Back on the Raleigh Pack". This made
no sense to me whatever. - But that's what it was supposed to mean.
Why 903? Was it a date (perhaps September 3)?
Apparently at some time previous the makers of Raleigh Cigarettes
included a coupon inside every pack. The smoker could save these
coupons and redeem them for a premium when he acquired a sufficient
number of them. The Coupons had been discontinued, and now
"... they're back on the pack".
Being a non-smoker, I have no idea how long the coupons stuck around.
Did the slogan "903" ever catch on? I don't think so.
This may not be the "combination of letters" that Harry asked about, but
nothing else comes to mind. Hope this helps a little.
See you in Cincinnati -
Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:30:26 -0500
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wonderfears, Charlie McCarthy
Dino <pangier@[removed]; announced:
I just finished recording an audio drama ... here is a link to the
site where I placed the entire project:
[removed]
Quite entertaining, Dino. I only listened to snippets - I mean to go
back later and play the whole thing - but it sounded surprisingly
good, considering that you must have been working with a pick-up cast
and crew, better than a lot of NPR's unfortunate efforts at Audio
Drama. Good luck with finding a producer.
"A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed]; wrote:
You would love the Jack Benny TV show where Jack visits Edgar
Bergen's home, and Charlie McCarthy walks into the room and talks
with Mrs. Bergen. Then Mortimer Snerd comes in the same way. Jack
is flabbergasted!
I have a copy of that show that I taped in the early days of cable,
though I haven't played it in years. I recall that I, too, was
flabbergasted. I believe Jack was actually greeted by Edgar's
charming young daughter, about eight or so, cute little Candice
Bergen.
Of course, even though Charlie McCarthy was a radio character,
everybody knew what he looked like. There were comic books, my family
had an Charlie McCarthy board game called topper, in which the face
cards were Charlie in a variety of costumes, and when a player had a
full suit he'd sneak a wooden top hat from the center of the table;
others had to do the same as they noticed the dwindling pile of hats;
the loser was the one without a Topper. And my Dad even had a baby
spoon, surely not his own as he was born in 1917, with Charlie's head
at the non-functional end. I think he was in ads, too, maybe
Chesterfield, encouraging us all to take up smoking, maybe slyly
hinting we'd be dummies to do so.
Charlie's age, as I recall, was ambiguous: sometimes he was presented
as a school boy, sometimes as a Lothario who, for example, sought to
woo and marry Mae West. Actually, contemplating the libido of a
wooden dummy suggests an off-color wisecrack from which I'll refrain,
being far too refined for that sort of thing. I'll bet Mae West would
have said it, though.
--
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:34:33 -0500
From: "thomas pawlak" <kalwap77@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:
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I wanted to pass on to list members that I received a neat OTR DVD from
[removed] last week - "Up in the Air" starring Mantan Moreland, Frankie
Darro, Majorie Reynolds and others.
Hello, I just wanted to warn members, I purchased five dvd's from oldies .com,
two were cut up so badly over the years they were terrible. I complained and
was told "that's all there is and there ain't no more "and I should be
ashamed that I complained.
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