Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #45
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 2/5/2002 12:00 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 45
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      "Recorded and transcribed"            [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
      Parley Baer tribute on TVLand         [ Lanny Gilbert <morsefan1@[removed]; ]
      re: Sticks                            [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed]; ]
      Re: Coughlin's Network                [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      50s Radio Shows                       [ Brian Betsworth <brianbetsworth@cas ]
      [removed]         [ "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed] ]
      jethroes uncle, buddy baer            [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
      Sticks                                [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Favorite Story anthology 1946 to 194  [ "Gene Mayo" <gmayo@[removed]; ]
      Richard Legrand                       [ ericandsusie@[removed] ]
      Buffalo Bob's Super Talkascope        [ "Ed Ellers" <ed_ellers@[removed]; ]
      Martin Block's records                [ "Ed Ellers" <ed_ellers@[removed]; ]
      Re: Sticks                            [ "Michael Ogden" <michaelo67@hotmail ]
      Log for the PBS Rebroadcasts of CBSR  [ "Ron Vanover" <vanoverr@[removed]; ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      MP3 Player answer                     [ Paulurbahn@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:57:25 -0500
    From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: "Recorded and transcribed"

    The discussion of the once-obligatory announcements of delayed
    broadcast:

>     Phrases that I can recall included:  just the single word: "Transcribed"to
>     a much more elaborate local phrase at my old home (WCOP- ABC in Boston): "The
>     following program was transcribed earlier, for broadcast at this time" "The
>     following is electrically transcribed"    "Portions of todays program were
>     transcribed"  "By Electrical [removed]"  "By Special Recording" and
>     maybe others I  may have forgotten.

    It's fun to hear how the record credit could be buried in copy:
    "Produced and transcribed in Hollywood [removed]" or "Welcome to our program
    (transcribed). It's great to have [removed]".  The phrase "Special
    Recording" may have referred to the trade name that George W. Trendle
    chose when the Lone Ranger went onto disk, and I suppose it fulfilled
    more than one requirement.

    The expression I wonder about is, "recorded and transcribed".  The
    phrase occurs often and might mean, in keeping with practice in the
    early days of magnetic recording, that the show was initially recorded
    on tape and then dubbed to ET for airplay.  Can anybody clarify that for
    us?

    --Bill Jaker

    [Portions of this posting were electronically and mechanically
    reproduced].

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:01:10 -0500
    From: Lanny Gilbert <morsefan1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Parley Baer tribute on TVLand

    I found out today that the TVLand cable channel will
    be giving a tribute to, and showing TV programs
    featuring, Parley Baer. The programs start at 3 [removed]
    this Sunday 2/10/2002.

    Thought y'all might want to check it out, since he was
    so great in so many OTR programs, notably Gunsmoke.

    Lanny G.

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:42:28 -0500
    From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: re: Sticks

    John Mayer asked about a radio dramatization of Karl Wagner's "Sticks"

    One radio adaptation of "Sticks" was done by ZBS Foundation in 3-D sound
    (binaural sound) great sound experience using headphones, it is still
    available from them on CD and also includes the story "O Boy O". Their
    most recent catalog lists it as SBCD @ $[removed] Other interesting stories
    in the 3-D sound series are: Stephen King's "The Mist" (CD & Cassette)
    and Carlos Fuentes' "Aura" (Cassette only).

    You can order from their web site <[removed]; or you can get a
    catalog from them at:

    ZBS Foundation
    174 N. River Road
    Fort Edward, NY 12828.

    ZBS is a non-profit organization, which lately has been expanding their
    catalog beyond their own productions (Adventures of Jack Flanders, Ruby,
    the galactic gumshoe, The Taj Express, Saratoga Springs) to include
    stories for children, they have "Harry Potter" cassettes; classics "The
    Hobbit" "The Wind in the Willows"; and some OTR they have the 20
    cassette series "60 Greatest Old Time Radio Shows" selected by Walter
    Cronkite.

    I'm just a fan and satisfied customer,

    Gerry Wright

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:45:01 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: Coughlin's Network

    On 2/4/02 3:16 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     I recently acquired a CD of MP3s of some of Fr. Charles Coughlin's
>     broadcasts, airchecked from WHBI. (Interestingly, an announcement on the
>     earliest broadcast on the CD states that WINS New York had cancelled its
>     contract to carry Coughlin's program the previous week.

    Coughlin also lost WMCA as a result of his broadcast of 11/20/38 (if your
    MP3s are like most of the circulating tape copies of this program, the
    11/20, 11/27, and 12/4 broadcasts are all botched up. Many circulating
    copies of 11/20 are actually the first half of 12/4 coupled with the last
    half of 11/27.)

    WOR had dropped Coughlin at the close of the 1937-38 season, and was glad
    to be rid of him -- they'd been looking for an excuse to drop the
    program, but as long as Coughlin continued to broadcast without a summer
    break, they didn't feel they could contractually cancel him. But when he
    broke for the summer in 1938, WOR immediately imposed a policy of
    refusing to sell local commercial time for "religious" broadcasts. (This
    policy wasn't strictly enforced though -- Charles E. Fuller's Old
    Fashioned Revival Hour program continued to buy time on WOR thru Mutual
    for many years.) With all the major independents in New York refusing to
    sell Coughlin time, tiny little WHBI was the only station in the New York
    market he could get. After the cancellations, there were protests by
    Coughlinites in front of both WMCA and WINS, leading to occasional
    violence between these picketers and counter-picketers.

    In addition to losing WMCA as a result of the 11/20 program, WDAS in
    Philadelpha and WJJD-WIND Chicago also cancelled the series in the wake
    of the controversy (and the only Chicago-market station Coughlin could
    get from then on was WHIP in Hammond, Indiana.) Each of these stations
    explained that they would carry future broadcasts only if Coughlin
    submitted a full text of his speech in advance, but this led to a
    considerable debate over censorship in radio, and there is quite a bit of
    interesting reading on this subject in both the civilian and trade press
    during the winter of 1938. Meanwhile, Coughlin's 11/20 address was
    officially repudiated by the Archbishop of Chicago in a
    nationally-broadcast statement over NBC. Following this rebuke, Catholic
    leaders nationwide rushed to distance themselves from Coughlin's
    comments, stressing that his political comments did not have official
    ecclesiastical approval, and that he was delivering them as a private
    citizen and not as a priest.

>     Does anyone have a listing of Coughlin's affiliates and the dates they

    carried him?)

    Coughlin packaged a series of private networks beginning in 1932, after
    CBS adopted its policy of refusing to sell religious time. (NBC had had
    such a policy since 1927, following a controversial broadcast by Judge
    Rutherford of the Watch Tower Society.)  WJR, Detroit was always the key
    station for Coughlin's  network -- its owner, George Richards, seems to
    have been very much in sympathy with Coughlin's political views, and in
    the 1940s got into deep trouble with the FCC for repeatedly ordering his
    newscasters to slant the news to reflect his own political attitudes.

    There were 16 stations on the hookup in 1932, with WOR the New York
    outlet. The network extended as far west as Kansas City, but I don't have
    a full list of affiliates. During 1938, Coughlin was using WJR, WKBW
    Buffalo, WPG Atlantic City, WMCA New York, WCKY Cincinnati, WSYR
    Syracuse, WGAR Cleveland, KSTP St. Paul, WCAO Baltimore, WJAS Pittsburgh,
    WFIL Philadelphia and affiliates on the Quaker State Network, and WAAB
    Boston and affiliates on the Colonial Network.

>     What other programs did WHBI broadcast?

    Mostly brokered political and religious programs, advertising
    transcriptions, phonograph records, and occasional live-singer-and-piano
    music programs. It was about as smalltime as a station could get in 1939.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:45:27 -0500
    From: Brian Betsworth <brianbetsworth@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: 50s Radio Shows

    The Rochester Radio Theatre Guild,  [removed] , is searching for
    scripts, or suggestions, for Radio Shows
    aired during the 1950s. We are looking for shows with many people (or parts)
    to recreate live on stage.
    Please send any suggestions to:

    Brian Betsworth
    brianbetsworth@[removed]
    [removed]
    888-865-9282

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:10:57 -0500
    From: "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: [removed]

    Pardon me if everyone else knows about this and I'm just slow on the
    uptake.  Jerry Haendiges and Tom Heathwood have partnered up for a
    streaming RA site (see subject line).  It's definitely worth a visit and
    a bookmark.

    Regards,
    J. Alec West

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:15:56 -0500
    From: Jer51473@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: jethroes uncle, buddy baer

     Brother of max, of course. Buddy was a decent-good heavyweight fighter who
    lost to joe louis as did max. I think buddy knocked louis down and at one
    point looked like he might win, but the bomber, the greatest that ever lived,
    put him away. Buddy also appeared in many movies. He was a huge man, much
    larger than max, and always played the part of a near giant. He is memorable
    as such especially in 1 or 2 of the biblical movies of the fifties.

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:16:09 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Sticks

>     A couple of years ago Gordon Payton mentioned he had for sale two versions
>     of Karl Edward Wagner's short story, "Sticks" ... It was dramatized for
>     radio sometime during the 70's, I believe.

    This would be the ZBS Radio Production and is part of their "binaural"
    sound series. You can find it for sale at their web site [removed]

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:16:28 -0500
    From: "Gene Mayo" <gmayo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Favorite Story anthology 1946 to 1949

    Hi:
    	I'm looking for any episodes from the radio program "Favorite Story".
    According to Jay Hickerson's book "the Ultimate History of Network Radio
    Programming" all 119 shows of this series are in circulation. Hosted by
    Ronald Colman after 1947 and  staring such greats as Hans Conried, Herb
    Butterfield, Lurene Tuttle, Bill Conrad and many others. Most of the shows
    were 30 minute offerings of classic literature. I have checked out all the
    dealers that I know of and found only one or two episodes. Does anybody know
    where I can get any of these programs?
    					Thanks
    				    Gene Mayo
    				[removed]@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:00:59 -0500
    From: ericandsusie@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Richard Legrand

    Hi all,
    I just finished watching an episode of the Andy Griffith show and in the
    ending credits there was a mention of Richard Legrand as a rerecording
    editor. Is this any relation to Dick Legrand who played Mr. Peavey on
    The Great Gildersleeve?
    Also it was directed by Richard Crenna. Could it be Bronco Thompson?
    Just curious,
    Eric Hardy

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    Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:23:24 -0500
    From: "Ed Ellers" <ed_ellers@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Buffalo Bob's Super Talkascope

    A. Joseph Ross <lawyer@[removed]; wrote:

>     There was one exception, though.  When Buffalo Bob went away on vacation,
>     they wrote into the story that he was on a trip somewhere for some reason,
>     and at some point during the show, they would contact him on the Super
>     Talkascope.  Then there would be a filmed segment of him, wherever he was
>     supposed to be, filmed before he went on vacation.

    They did something similar after Bob Smith suffered a heart attack, IIRC in
    1955, only in this case NBC set up a makeshift studio in his basement so
    that Buffalo Bob could appear live from the "far-off outpost" to which he
    had been dispatched.  (Fortunately, this was a few months before the show
    switched to color.)

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    Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:34:47 -0500
    From: "Ed Ellers" <ed_ellers@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Martin Block's records

    Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; wrote:

>     Most record companies now contend that promotional copies are only "loaned"
>     copies and the ownership of them remains with the record company.  Nobody
>     considers this contention enforcable."

    <snip>

>     "I think that many of the people on this digest who have worked for radio
>     stations from different eras will all have memories of dealing with record
>     promotion men and know that they would quite often slip the DJs records to
>     win their favor. (They also did it to secretaries and even engineers!)

    As best I can tell, the "promotional copy" imprint is used so that the
    record company doesn't have to pay royalties on these copies.  Radio
    stations give away promo copies to listeners all the time, and these days
    they're often cassettes (which I doubt many stations would play on the air),
    so I have to believe that the record companies are providing the copies with
    the full knowledge that this is taking place.

    The records I'm referring to here are normal consumer releases that have
    been stamped "promotional."  I also remember DJ 45s from the late 1960s and
    the 1970s that had the same song on both sides in stereo and mono versions
    (since many AM stations preferred to play mono mixes), and CBS in the 70s
    sent out LPs for air play with a big white sticker on the front with timings
    and copyright information for each cut.

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    Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:34:55 -0500
    From: "Michael Ogden" <michaelo67@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: Sticks

    John Mayer asked about the radio version of Karl Edward Wagner's short story
    "Sticks." This was done by Thomas Lopez (aka "Meatball Fulton") of the ZBS
    Foundation and is still available from them on CD. (Their website is at
    [removed]) It was part of a short series of horror stories that were recorded
    in binaural sound and broadcast on NPR under the title THE CABINET OF DOCTOR
    FRITZ. ("Fritz" was the name they gave to their recording device, a
    German-manufactured rubber head that had microphones inside the ears.) In
    addition to "Sticks," they also did Stephen King's "The Mist" and Carlos
    Fuentes' "Aura."

    Mike Ogden

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    Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:35:17 -0500
    From: "Ron Vanover" <vanoverr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Log for the PBS Rebroadcasts of CBSRMT

    At one time Bob Cook had a log for Himan Brown's 1998 rebroadcasts of Radio
    Mystery Theater on PBS.  His new site ([removed]) is less helpful with
    respect to dating episodes.

    I'm attempting to date a rebroadcast of the The Old Lady Killer.  Since Mr.
    Brown hosts the episode I have, I'm assuming it aired within the last four
    years.  Might anyone (1) have the air date for that episode, and (2) point
    me to a log that includes the PBS rebroadcasts?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:35:24 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1931 - Eddie Cantor's long radio career got underway as he appeared on
    Rudy Vallee's The Fleischmann Hour.

    1940 - Amanda of Honeymoon Hill debuted on radio. Joy Hathaway starred
    as 'the beauty of flaming red hair'. The program stayed for six years on
    NBC.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:43:44 -0500
    From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: MP3 Player answer

    Someone ask:

>     I think what I'm asking is can a player read a disk with directories
>      of shows on it?

    I just tested my Philips AZ1138 Boombox (sells for $99 at Sears) and it
    played a CDR containing 6 directories. It ignored the 6 directories and
    played the disk as 96 individual shows (which is what it had , divided among
    those 6 directories). Based on that test I would assume all Philips Expanium
    units with MP3 capability will do the same.
    The only thing the player will not run is OTR disks made with an autoloader
    program computer file. These do not give a directory went you try to view
    them on a computer.
    It's played everything else, moneo, stereo or any sampling rate MP3 that I
    have ask of it.
    Paul Urbahns
    paulurbahn@[removed]

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