Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #35
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Date: 1/31/2007 2:51 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 35
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: The Lone Ranger's first name      [ Joemartelle@[removed] ]
      Movies about the Radio                [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
      My Birthday Salutation                [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
      Re: Hi, my name's John                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Who Was That Masked Man?              [ crow8164@[removed] (Dennis Crow) ]
      Don Hollenbeck                        [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
      1-31 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Ranger name                           [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Captain Midnight                      [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      The Lone Ranger's first name          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      "Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Nig  [ Bob Scherago <rscherago@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:06:03 -0500
    From: Joemartelle@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: The Lone Ranger's first name
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    For what it's worth and not to be a name dropper, but Clayton Moore and I
    were good friends. I'm sure many of you know, for many years, Clay did an
    outstanding job, of  portraying the Lone Ranger on television.

    Quite often, on his birthday and other occasions, he would be a guest on my
    various radio shows, usually
    via phone, from his home. It was also my pleasure, to assist him, in his
    'legal battle' with the Wrather Corporation,  and his attempt to  regain
    'wearing
    the mask' at personal appearances. This was when exec's
    wanted to showcase a new Lone Ranger.  At the time, back in the  late 70's,
    Klinton--(whatever became of him)--Spillsbury was cast as the new LR  in new
    feature length movie. Wrather officials (owners to the  rights)  felt there
    would be confusion in the minds of viewers with  Clayton and the new 'younger'
    masked-rider-of-the-plains!  Ridiculous, for  my money's worth. Anyway,  I
    could
    go on and on, about what  transpired, including how 'hurt' Clayton felt about
    being cast aside, but that's  another story, for another forum. Suffice to
    say, after Jack Wrather passed on,  Clayton  was allowed to make personal
    appearance as "Clayton Moore,  who portrayed The Lone Ranger."

    Be that as it may, and back to the subject of the  masked-man's first name!
    During one of our informal 'radio  chats,' the subject of the Lone Ranger's
    first name came up and Clayton  confirmed, without doubt or hesitation that it
    is and always has [removed],  Kemo [removed]!  It's not from the radio
    Lone Ranger's mouth, nor from  writer Fran Striker, but, I believe, still a
    pretty good voice of  authority!

    I have that interview on tape, floating around here somewhere, in one of
    several hundred boxes of radio 'stuff',  I've kept over the  years. Now, just
    exactly, where it is and which box it's in is anyone's guess:)  Perhaps, I
    should
    organize a search team to venture forth to the deep, dark  recesses of our
    basement to try and locate it!:)

    God Bless

    Joe

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:06:43 -0500
    From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Movies about the Radio

    Hello again --

    This is either a new subject or a very old one, that of movies attempting to
    show the activities of on-air performers in the heyday of radio (I am
    reminded of this news group's interest in TV's "Remember WENN" from just a
    few years ago).

    My wife and I just discovered a hilarious comedy from 1997, played not for
    laughs but in all seriousness (in order to make it funnier), called "Welcome
    Back, Mr. McDonald," and written and produced by Japanese writers and
    performers. It represents the Tokyo radio production -- in the present
    day -- of a drama written by a Japanese housewife and intended to be
    performed live over late-night radio, and the complications that ensue when
    the leading actress in the drama objects to the name the authoress has given
    her. One change leads to another, and by the end of the film one wonders if
    the mess will ever be straightened out. The actors are all so uniformly
    capable that the subtitles -- absolutely necessary for most of us -- never
    get in the way of the performances. And one has opportunities to see how the
    station and studios are laid out, how sound effects were made in the
    "classic," pre-CD days of radio, how the narrator is isolated from the other
    players, how last-minute changes in the script are incorporated during
    station breaks and commercials.

    Our trips to Japan in the last couple of years prepared us for the excessive
    politeness, the bowing and scraping, etc., common to the Japanese culture,
    but this film would be funny even to those with little knowledge of Japanese
    or love of radio techniques and OTR, and we heartily recommend it. It's
    available from Netflix.

    yOurs TRuly,
    Jan Bach

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:40:56 -0500
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  My Birthday Salutation
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    From: Ronald Sayles
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest
    Subject: 1-30 births/deaths

    January 30th births

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY CONRAD!!

     To Ron Sayles who through his B/D program always intrigues us with
    the comings and goings of former radio, TV and film performers and who
    always uses the Digest to wish me a HB, I say

     "Thank You" for your salutation on my birthday anniversary.  I turned
    76 tears old today,  Dang that's old. And yes you read that right.  I'm
    crying I'm so old. *G*

      Of course being of such an age is better than the alternative.

      Regards

      Conrad Binyon

    ---
    conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
    Encino, CA
    Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:16:16 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Hi, my name's John

       Jack French wrote --

>     I owe Joe Mackey, and the rest of the Digesters, an apology.

       Accepted.  :)
       Joe

    --
    Visit my homepage:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:16:52 -0500
    From: crow8164@[removed] (Dennis Crow)
    To: [removed]@[removed] (Old Time Radio Digest)
    Subject:  Who Was That Masked Man?

    I have little stomach to disagree with my friend and excellent OTR historian,
    Jack French, but his suggestion that "The Lone Ranger's" first name is "John"
    requires another look.

    Since this subject has been milked thoroughly here (reminiscent of an
    earlier, extended discussion regarding whether Smoky Bear is really Smoky
    Bear or Smoky THE Bear), let me suggest a reference which clears up the
    matter for me.

    David Rothel, author of WHO WAS THAT MASKED MAN? ([removed] Barnes and Company,
    1976), interviewed Charles Livingstone, who was an early actor and long time
    director of the radio version of "The Lone Ranger."  Livingstone came to work
    on "The Lone Ranger in August, 1933, seven months after the program had begun
    in January, 1933. He knew both George Trendle and writer, Fran Striker.  He
    says to Rothel, "Nobody ever knew the Lone Ranger's first name despite the
    fact that some writers claim it was John." (page 111)

    He would know if anybody would because he had daily contact with the
    program's  developing story for many, many years.  I don't believe we should
    fill in any blanks if the information didn't exist in the first place.

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:17:18 -0500
    From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Don Hollenbeck

    A college professor at Northwestern contacted the Metro Washington OTR
    Club today, searching for audio copies of broadcasts of Don Hollenbeck.
    This professor is completing a book on Hollenbeck for Columbia
    University Press. Hollenbeck, after he was fired by ABC and NBC, did a
    pioneer program of criticism of NYC newspapers on WCBS entitled: "CBS
    Views the Press" from 1947 to 1950. These are the ones sought.

    If any Digesters can help with this request, contact the professor
    directly:

    Professor Loren Ghiglione
    Medill School of Journalism
    Northwestern University
    Evanston, IL
    <ghiglion@[removed];

    Thanks,

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL
    <[removed]>

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:18:29 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-31 births/deaths

    January 31st births

    01-31-1872 - Rupert Hughes - Lancaster, MO - d. 9-9-1956
    writer: (Uncle to Howard Hughes) "The Story of Holly Sloan"
    01-31-1872 - Zane Grey - Zanesville, OH - d. 10-23-1939
    writer: "Rudy Vallee Hour"
    01-31-1887 - Charlies Irwin - Curragh, Ireland - d. 1-12-1969
    actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    01-31-1892 - Eddie Cantor - NYC - d. 10-10-1964
    singer, comedian: (Banjo Eyes) "Eddie Cantor Show"; "Chase & Sanborn
    Hour"
    01-31-1894 - Isham Jones - Coalton, OH - d. 10-19-1956
    bandleader: "Isham Jones and His Orchestra"
    01-31-1902 - Tullulah Bankhead - Huntsville, AL - d. 12-12-1968
    actor, hostess: "Johnny Presents"; "Big Show"
    01-31-1904 - Cliff Nazarro - New Haven, CT - d. 2-18-1961
    actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    01-31-1905 - John O'Hara - Pottsville, PA - d. 4-11-1970
    author: "Information, Please"; "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"
    01-31-1906 - Edith Adams - West Union, IA - d. unknown
    actor: Mrs. Gilman "Those Happy Gilmans"; "Jenny Peabody"
    01-31-1908 - Connie Desmond - Ohio - d. 3-3-1983
    sportscaster: play-by-play for the Brooklyn Dodgers
    01-31-1909 - Walter Coy - Great Falls, MT - d. 12-11-1974
    actor: Michael Lanyard/Lone Wolf "Lone Wolf"
    01-31-1913 - Maurice Manson - d. 9-25-2002
    actor: Reverend McArthur "One Man's Family"
    01-31-1915 - Bobby Hackett - Providence, RI - d. 6-7-1976
    cornetist: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"
    01-31-1915 - Garry Moore - Baltimore, MD - d. 11-28-1993
    host, comedian: "Garry Moore Show"; "Camel Caravan"; "Take It or
    Leave It"
    01-31-1917 - Fay Baker - NYC - d. 12-8-1987
    actor: "Words at War"
    01-31-1919 - Jackie Robinson - Cairo, GA - d. 10-24-1972
    sportscaster: (Baseball Hall of Fame) "Jackie Robinson Show"
    01-31-1921 - Carol Channing - Seattle, WA
    actor-singer: "Stagestruck"; "Arthur Godfrey Show"
    01-31-1921 - John Agar - Chicago, IL - d. 4-7-2002
    actor: "Big Show"
    01-31-1921 - Mario Lanza - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-7-1959
    singer: "Mario Lanza Show"
    01-31-1923 - Joanne Dru - Logan, WV - d. 9-10-1996
    actor: (Sister of Peter Marshall) "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-31-1927 - Norman Prescott - Boston, MA - d. 7-2-2005
    producer: Boston radio
    01-31-1929 - Jean Simmons - Crouch Hill, London, England
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "A Christmas Carol"

    January 31st deaths

    01-07-1889 - H. R. Baukhage - La Salle, IL - d. 1-31-1976
    commentator: "Four Star News"; "News and Comments"
    01-17-1926 - Moira Shearer - Dunfermine, Scotland - d. 1-31-2006
    worked briefly as a radio announcer in the 1980s
    01-18-1882 - A. A. Milne - London, England - d. 1-31-1956
    author: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
    02-02-1882 - Geoffrey O'Hara - Chatham, Canada - d. 1-31-1967
    tenor: "Roxy and His Gang"
    02-10-1868 - William Allen White - Emporia, KS - d. 1-31-1944
    writer: "American Forum of the Air"; "University of Chicago Round Table"
    04-01-1893 - Linton Wells - Louisville, KY - d. 1-31-1976
    writer: "The Magic Key"
    05-01-1892 - Howard Barlow - Plain City, OH - d. 1-31-1972
    conductor: "March of Time"; "Voice of Firestone"
    05-14-1910 - Paul Sutton - Albuquerque, NM - d. 1-31-1970
    actor: Sergeant William Preston "Challenge of the Yukon"
    06-25-1887 - George Abbott - Forestville, NY - d. 1-31-1995
    broadway producer: "Stagestruck"
    07-17-1908 - Jack Douglas - d. 1-31-1989
    writer: "Jack Paar Show"; "The Martin and Lewis Show"
    08-14-1867 - John Galsworthy - Kingston Hill, Surrey, England - d.
    1-31-1933
    author: "Columbia Workshop"; "Great Plays"; "Theatre Guil On the Air"
    08-23-1897 - Ray Perkins - Boston, MA - d. 1-31-1969
    emcee, singer: "National Amateur Night"; "Show of the Week"; "Nickel
    Man"
    08-27-1882 - Samuel Goldwyn - Warsaw, Poland - d. 1-31-1974
    panelist: "People's Platform"
    08-27-1901 - Roger Pryor - NYC - d. 1-31-1974
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Summer
    Symphony"
    09-26-1904 - Richard Thorne - NYC - d. 1-31-1957
    writer, creator, producer, director: "The Hall of Fantasy"
    11-01-1923 - Gordon R. Dickson - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada - d.
    1-31-2001
    science fiction writer: "X-Minus One"; "Exploring Tomorrow"
    11-08-1909 - Scotty Wiseman - Ingalls, NC - d. 1-31-1981
    singer: (Lulu Belle and Scotty) "National Barn Dance"; "Boone County
    Jamboree"
    11-22-1875 - Elizabeth Patterson - Savannah, TN - d. 1-31-1966
    actor: Maid "Halls of Ivy"
    12-10-1914 - Jean Dickenson - Montreal, Canada - d. 1-31-1989
    singer: (Nightingale of the Airwaves) "American Album of Familiar Music"
    12-18-1890 - Edwin H. Armstrong - NYC - d. 1-31-1954
    inventor: FM radio

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:18:54 -0500
    From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ranger name

    I was quite surprised to read that Jerry Haendiges is in possession of, or
    at least aware of, a sanctioned recorded episode(s) of The Lone Ranger that
    mention his first name being John.
    Jerry, if there is such a recording or recordings, why not let us all in on
    it?  I know Fran Striker never intended that any first name be used for his
    character.  After Trendle sold the copyright to Jack Wrather in 1956, all
    bets were off anyway.  They could have named him Aloysius and it wouldn't
    have been official.

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    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:12:01 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:56:00 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Captain Midnight

>     Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:59:31 -0500
>     From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];

>     The Captain Midnight radio show did not really transition to TV, despite
>     that there was a Captain Midnight TV show, both sponsored by Ovaltine.
>     There were significant differences between the two shows.  On the radio
>     show, the Secret Squadron was a US Government group; on TV, it was a
>     private organization.

    But if it was a private organization, how was it funded?  What
    private citizen could have afforded that mountaintop real estate, the
    headquarters facility, the Silver Dart, and all of that gadgetry, not
    to mention food and clothing for the three people who lived there?
    I'd say it was a government-funded front otganization -- especially
    given Captain Midnight's easy access to high-level officials.

>     The TV show had a rocket airplane; in the radio
>     show, conventional aircraft were flown, often amphibians; usually using
>     reciprocating engines.

    No, the TV show had a jet airplane.  I'd just call that an updating
    of the technology, just as the TV Captain Midnight was a World War II
    veteran, while the radio Captain Midnight was a World War I veteran.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:56:36 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger's first name

>     Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:46:30 -0500
>     From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];

>     He contends that the later commercial recordings of the Masked Rider,
>     released in the 50s and 60s, definitely stated that his name was
>     "John." Since those records were produced by, and with the blessings
>     of, his creators, it validates his first name.

    What recordings?  The recordings I know of released in the 50s and
    60s consisted of (a) some phonograph records, originally issued as 78
    or 45 rpm singles, featuring the radio cast and telling the LR's
    origin, how he got Silver, how he found Dan Reid, and some other
    short adventures; and (b) recordings of old radio shows.  It's been
    pretty well established that the LR's first name was never mentioned
    on any of the radio or TV shows.  That leaves the phonograph records.
    These (or at least some of them) came out in the 70s on LPs, and I
    have them.  The ones I have don't mention the LR's first name.  If
    there are others that I don't have, I'd love to know about them.

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    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:50:18 -0500
    From: Bob Scherago <rscherago@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Night Stand
     with the Big Bands"

    The latest "Golden Age of Radio" programs with Dick Bertel
    and Ed Corcoran, and "A One Night Stand with the Big Bands"
    with Arnold Dean can be heard at [removed]
    <[removed];.

    Wach week we feature four complete shows in MP3 format
    for your listening pleasure or for downloading; two "Golden
    Age of Radios" and two "One Night Stands." The two WTIC
    programs are on different pages for more flexibility. Please let
    me know what you thinkof the new format. You can email me at
     goldena@[removed] <mailto:goldena@[removed];

    We present new shows every week or so. The current four programs
    will be available on line at least until the morning of February 7, 2007.

     Program 30 - September, 1972 - Aldo Gisalbert, NBC studio engineer,
    discusses the very early days of the NBC network.

    Program 31 - October, 1972 - Bill Owen, author of Radio's Golden Age,
    later retitled THE BIG BROADCAST; 1920-1950 A NEW, REVISED
    AND GREATLY EXPANDED EDITION OF RADIO'S GOLDEN
    AGE: THE COMPLETE REFERRENCE WORK, a listing of all the
    major radio shows and the people who made them happen. The book is
    the ultimate reference of old time radio. It is still in print, with a
    forward
    by Henry Morgan.

    "A One Night Stand with the Big Bands" with Arnold Dean

    Program 21 - Saxophonist Charlie Ventura - June, 1973

    Program 22 - Singer Johnny Desmond - August, 1973

    In the 1970's WTIC decided that there was a market in
    the evening for long-form shows that could be packaged
    and sold to sponsors. Two of those shows were "The
    Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Night Stand with the
    Big Bands."

    Dick Bertel had interviewed radio collector-historian
    Ed Corcoran several times on his radio and TV shows,
    and thought a regular monthly show featuring interviews
    with actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians
    from radio's early days might be interesting. "The Golden
    Age of Radio" was first broadcast in April, 1970; Ed was
    Dick's co-host. It lasted seven years. "The Golden Age
    of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights on Walden
    Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

    Arnold Dean began his love affair with the big band
    era in his pre-teen years and his decision to study
    the clarinet was inspired by the style of Artie Shaw.
    When he joined WTIC in 1965 he hosted a daily program
    of big band music. In 1971, encouraged by the success
    of his daily program and "The Golden Age of Radio"
    series, he began monthly shows featuring interviews
    with the band leaders, sidemen, agents, jazz reporters,
    etc. who made major contributions to one of the great
    eras of music history.

    Bob Scherago
    Webmaster

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