Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #19
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Date: 1/17/2007 9:39 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 19
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@c ]
      Re: radio premium museum              [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Museums                               [ "Frank McGurn Jr." <[removed]@sbcg ]
      Hearing American Radio special        [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Harris's sponsor                      [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      1-17 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Harris, Godfrey and "The Thing"       [ Randy Watts <rew1014@[removed]; ]
      KALTENMEYER'S KINDERGARTEN            [ David Martin <martindb@[removed] ]
      Re: old time radio premiums           [ jimb <beshiresjim@[removed]; ]
      Online OTR                            [ "origami" <origami@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:26:46 -0500
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi Friends,

    Here is this week's schedule for my Olde Tyme Radio Network. Here you may
    listen to high-quality broadcasts with Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio
    Theater," Big John Matthews and Steve "Archive" Urbaniak's "The Glowing
    Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same Station."  Streamed in high-quality audio,
    on demand, 24/7 at [removed]
    Check out our High-Quality mp3 catalog at:
    [removed]
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    SAME TIME, SAME STATION

    Martin Luther King; American Hero!
    The Negro in American History

    MEET THE PRESS
    4-17-60    Guest: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    AMERICANS ALL-IMMIGRANTS ALL
    Episode 6    12-18-38    "The Negro In The United States"
    The story of the only group who came to America against their will.
    CBS DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR SYNDICATION

    THE AMERICAN STORY
    Episode 11   4-29-44    "Bowed Shapes"
    The history of the Negro in America NBC SUSTAINED Saturdays 7:00 - 7:30 pm
    NARRATOR: Archibald MacLeish
    WRITER: Archibald MacLeish
    DIRECTOR: Frank Patt

    DESTINATION FREEDOM
    Episode 55    7-31-49    "The Trumpet Talks"
    The story of Louis Armstrong
    NBC WMAQ, CHICAGO SUSTAINED PRODUCTION. Sundays 5:00 - 5:30pm
    Began as a Civil Rights program, showing the Negro plight, rise, and
    accomplishments in America, using a predominately Negro cast.
    WRITER: Richard Durham
    PRODUCER: Homer Hect

    ==================================

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATER

    VIC & SADE
    Conversation with old time radio star, Bill Idelson, about his days on VIC &
    SADE and his new book "The Story of Vic & Sade." Lots of great minutes from
    the old shows.

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    THE GLOWING DIAL

     Fibber McGee and Molly - "Gildersleeve's Diary"
    originally aired October 22, 1940 on NBC
    Starring: Jim and Marian Jordan, Harold Peary, Isabel Randolph, Bill
    Thompson, Harlow Wilcox announcing.
    Sponsor: Johnson's Wax

    Fibber McGee and Molly - "Enter Beulah"
    originally aired January 25, 1944 on NBC
    Starring: Jim and Marian Jordan, Marlin Hurt, Arthur Q. Bryan, Shirley
    Mitchell, Ransom Sherman, Harlow Wilcox announcing.
    Sponsor: Johnson's Wax

    Fibber McGee and Molly - "Off To Hollywood"
    originally aired June 24, 1941 on NBC
    Starring: Jim and Marian Jordan, Harold Peary, Isabel Randolph, Bill
    Thompson, Gale Gordon, Harlow Wilcox announcing.
    Sponsor: Johnson's Wax

    Screen Guild Theater - "Heavenly Days"
    originally aired February 10, 1947 on NBC
    Starring: Jim and Marian Jordan, Bill Johnstone, John Brown, Truman Bradley
    announcing.
    Sponsor: Lady Esther Cosmetics

    ==================================

    If you have any questions or request, please feel free to contact me.

         Jerry Haendiges

         Jerry@[removed]  562-696-4387
         The Vintage Radio Place   [removed]
         Largest source of Old Time Radio Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:37:13 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: radio premium museum
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    In a message dated 1/16/07 8:37:33 AM Central Standard Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     my immediate reaction is:  in
>     a remote part of the hinterland, off the beaten path for the populace at
>     large, wouldn't it have only miniscule appeal?  Wouldn't it be so limited in
>     accessibility that -- no matter how grand or how widely publicized -- many
>     who would enjoy and learn from it simply wouldn't be able to get there?

    I would think if it's right off the exit of a well-travelled interstate
    highway it would still draw some numbers from passing vacationers.  Remember, a lot
    of people take interstates and circumvent cities like Atlanta with their
    nightmarish traffic.  I twice drove from Alabama to Baltimore and went some 100
    miles out of my way to avoid Washington, [removed] and was later told I still saved a
    significant amount of time.

    By the same token, locating it close to--but not necessarily in or within the
    suburbs of--a big city would likely help too.

    Dixon

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:37:44 -0500
    From: "Frank McGurn Jr." <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Museums
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    There are museums for for every thing, so add this one. In Beautiful
    Woodstock, Illinois , (McHenry County Seat)  where the movie "Ground hog's
    day" was filmed, in the old county court house is the "Dick Tracy Museum".
    Woodstock was the home of Tracy's Creator, Chester Gould.

      I only was there once and spent about 20 minutes looking around. I was
    checking to see if there was an display of Dick Tracy comic books that friend
    had donated . I found the display, The books are in stack in a locked cabinet
    with a glass door.

      I didn't see any thing about the OTR Tracy series. But it's there and it's
    a museum.

      One of Woodstock's claim to fame is that Orsen Wells had performed in plays
    at the century old Woodstock Opera house when he was very young. The restored
    Opera House is still going strong.

      Frank McGurn

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:39:27 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hearing American Radio special

    On 1/16/07 9:36 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     It was an interesting look
>     at early radio around the presentation of music.  You can actually
>     download the show too.

    Although they chose for some reason not to credit me, I provided a good
    deal of the archival audio heard on this program. I thought it was quite
    well produced, but there were deep flaws in the thesis presented -- the
    notion that "upper class white" music drove popular/jazz/country off the
    air by the turn of the thirties is patently ridiculous, and I tried to
    explain that to the producer who contacted me about the program, but
    evidently old academic myths die hard.

    In fact, there is only one year where it could be said that
    classical/semiclassical/concert types of music were genuinely in the
    ascendency, and that would be 1928 -- every year after that, an
    examination of program schedules will reveal that these forms were on a
    constant decline thru the first part of the 1930s, and the amount of
    popular music heard on the networks increased steadily throughout these
    same periods. And contrary to the impression one might receive from the
    documentary, African-American bands were well-represented among the
    network band remote broadcasts of the era.

    The impression that there were no "country/rural" music programs on the
    networks during this period is also false. The Corn Cob Pipe Club of
    Virginia was a regular NBC feature as early as 1929, and the WLS National
    Barn Dance began a very long and successful NBC run in 1933, preceding
    the arrival of the Grand Ol' Opry on NBC by a good six years. There were
    also quite a few rural-themed dramatic programs which featured "old time"
    musical interludes, including "Real Folks" and "Mountainville Sketches."

    In other words, don't believe everything you hear.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:47:48 -0500
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Harris's sponsor

    Lee Munsick, proffering a date of 11-25-50 for when "The Thing" was either
    released or hit the charts (he's unsure), further observes:

>     But at the time, I believe Phil Harris' sponsor was not Fitch or one of the

    others, but RCA Victor itself!

    Here's a list of Harris-Faye's sponsors, with dates:

    F. W. Fitch Co., 1946-48
    Rexall Drug Co., 1948-50
    Sustained, Fall 1950-Jan. 28, 1951
    Radio Corp. of America, Feb. 4, 1951-1954

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:12:01 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:32:05 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-17 births/deaths

    January 17th births

    01-17-1874 - Edna Wallace Hopper - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-14-1959
    Gave beauty tips on the networks 1930-1932
    01-17-1875 - Minetta Ellen - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-2-1965
    actor: Francis 'Fanny' Barbour "One Man's Family"
    01-17-1880 - Mack Sennett - Richmond, Quebec, Canada - d. 11-5-1960
    king of silent comedy: "Hear It Now"; "Biography In Sound"
    01-17-1884 - Noah Beery, Sr. - Kansas City, MO - d. 4-1-1946
    actor: "Campbell Playhouse"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-17-1891 - Marjorie Gateson - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-17-1977
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-17-1899 - Nevil Shute - d. 1-12-1960
    novelist: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-17-1903 - Warren Hull - Gasport, NY - d. 9-14-1974
    actor: Jack Hamilton "Gibson Family"
    01-17-1904 - Grant Withers - Pueblo, CO - d. 3-27-1959
    actor: "Calling All Cars"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    01-17-1904 - Knox Manning - Worcester, MA - d. 8-26-1980
    announcer: "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes"; "Headlines on Parade"
    01-17-1910 - Tex Fletcher - Harrison, NY - d. 3-14-1987
    actor: Tex Mason "Songs of the B-Bar-B"
    01-17-1914 - Ann Loring - NYC - d. 7-10-2005
    actor: "Casey, Crime Photographer"; "X Minus One"
    01-17-1914 - Howard Marion-Crawford - England - d. 11-24-1969
    actor: Sherlock Holmes "BBC Home Theatre"
    01-17-1914 - Irving Brecher - NYC
    writer, producer: "Community Sing"; "The Life of Riley"
    01-17-1919 - Dallas Townsend - NYC - d. 6-1-1995
    newscaster: "CBS World News Roundup"; "World Tonight"
    01-17-1921 - Herb Ellis - Cleveland, OH
    actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"
    01-17-1922 - Betty White - Oak Park, IL
    hostess: "Betty White on Animals"
    01-17-1926 - Moira Shearer - Dunfermine, Scotland - d. 1-31-2006
    worked briefly as a radio announcer in the 1980s
    01-17-1927 - Eartha Kitt - North, SC
    singer: "Here's to Veterans"
    01-17-1930 - Dick Contino - Fresno, CA
    accordionist: "Horace Heidt and His Musical Knights"
    01-17-1931 - James Earl Jones - Arkabutla, MS
    actor: "We Hold These Truths"
    01-17-1941 - Clive Elvyn Rice (Clyde Campbell) - Haslemere, Surrey,
    England
    actor: Bobby Benson "Bobby Benson and the B-Bar-B Riders"

    January 17th deaths

    03-06-1916 - Rochelle Hudson - Oklahoma City, OK - d. 1-17-1972
    actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
    03-22-1907 - Bernice Claire - Oakland, CA - d. 1-17-2003
    vocalist: "Waltz Time"
    08-17-1913 - Guy Della-Cioppa - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-2000
    director: "An American in Russia"; "The Columbia Workshop"
    09-20-1912 - John W. Loveton - d. 1-17-1997
    director: "The Shadow"; "Mr. and Mrs. North"; "Court of Missing Heirs"
    09-22-1915 - Vincent Donehue - Whitehall, NY - d. 1-17-1966
    actor: Neil Davison "Home of the Brave"
    09-24-1904 - Jan August - NYC - d. 1-17-1976
    pianist, bandleader: "Quarter hour broadcast on Mutual during 1947-48
    09-26-1919 - Barbara Britton - Long Beach, CA - d. 1-17-1980
    actor: Pamela North "Mr. and Mrs. North"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    10-10-1903 - Vernon Duke - Pskov, Russia - d. 1-17-1969
    broadway composer: "Mildred Baily Show"; "Good News of 1940"; "March
    of Time"
    11-27-1910 - Ray  Herbeck - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-17-1989
    bandleader: "Ray Herbeck and His Orchestra"
    11-30-1920 - Virginia Mayo - St. Louis, MO - d. 1-17-2005
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-02-1916 - Charlie Ventura - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-1992
    tenor sazophonist: "Spotlight Bands"; "Gene Krupa and His Orchestra"
    12-15-1896 - Betty Smith - NYC - d. 1-17-1972
    author: "Studio One"; "Hallmark Playhouse"

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:32:27 -0500
    From: Randy Watts <rew1014@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Harris, Godfrey and "The Thing"

>     I don't know which record came first, Godfrey's
>     Columbia or Phil Harris' Victor.  Can anyone look up
>     numbers and dates and tell me?

    The Phil Harris "Thing" was on RCA Victor 3968,
    released in November 1950, according to William
    Daniels' "Record Dating Guide."  Godfrey's version was
    on Columbia 39068 and is from December 1950, again
    according to Daniels.

    Randy

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    Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:32:37 -0500
    From: David Martin <martindb@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  KALTENMEYER'S KINDERGARTEN

    Are there existing episodes for the show  KALTENMEYER'S KINDERGARTEN?  I
    am interested in it  when the Jim and Marion Jordan appeared in the show.

    Thanks

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    Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:33:39 -0500
    From: jimb <beshiresjim@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: old time radio premiums
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    Hi All,

      In regard to a museum for otr premiums, I'd like to point out that the OTRR
    at [removed]
      maintains a picture gallery that has many scans of such premiums, as well
    as pictures of otr stars and copies of thousands of otr scripts, all for
    downloading.

      We are in the process of creating an archive of Old Time Radio Magazines
    that will be in pdf format.  Some of these date from the 1970's.  Several
    clubs are considering making back issues of their fanzines available to us
    for inclusion in this archive.

      I'd like to suggest that anyone with pictures of old time radio premiums
    check out our site to see if you have something that we don't and upload it
    for everyone to enjoy.  Same goes for those who might have copies of out of
    print or no longer publish otr 'zines.  Please e-mail me if you're interested.

      Jim Beshires
      for
      Old Time Radio Researchers

        Fans of OTR - please check out  the OLD TIME RADIO RESEARCHERS GROUP
    [removed]
      MEMBER: ASSOCIATION OF OLD TIME RADIO GROUPS

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    Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:40:51 -0500
    From: "origami" <origami@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Online OTR

    Some people may not know that there are excellent online OTR
    shows available on the internet.  "Shoutcast" carries an
    incredible variety of online radio shows, and one only has
    to search for OTR (those three letters) and then sort out
    the real OTR shows from the ones that happen to have the
    same three-letter combination.  The address is--

    [removed]

    This address does the searching for you:
    [removed]

    There are about a dozen OTR stations on there if you search
    through it.

    John

    PS: no irritating commercials or promos on these, as one
    finds on XM radio-- well, maybe one at the beginning

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Of course, the Shoutcast website _does_ force cookies,
    javascript, and other tracking devices onto your [removed]  --cfs3]

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