Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #117
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Date: 4/28/2006 10:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 117
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      the phyl coe mysteries                [ Grams46@[removed] ]
      Re: Kingfish, Amos and Andy           [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      OMF and the Hungarian revolution      [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      All the news that's fit for radio     [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Re: A&A on TV                         [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      It's That Time Again 3                [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
      Thanks!                               [ "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@m ]

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    Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:50:16 -0400
    From: Grams46@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  the phyl coe mysteries

    i have been listening to a sperdvac tape of "the  phyl coe mysteries".  phyl
    was short for phyllis.
    the 1936  program had an unusual tie in with the sponsor.  the sponsor was
    philco  radio tubes.
    phyllis coe (a detective) solved mysteries but did not reveal  the solution.
    listeners were to send in the solutions and win money.
    does anyone know who starred as the detective?

    peace from  kathy
    support our troops; end the war
    john 3:16

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    Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:56:00 -0400
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re:  Kingfish, Amos and Andy

    I found Bill Jaker's discussion of  "Kingfish, Amos and Andy" very, very
    interesting.   I've thought a lot about A and A over the years whenever the
    subject of was it good/bad comes up, as if there is some definitive answer.
    I remember that I enjoyed the program very much, yet looking back and
    realizing that I as a listener, even as a child, came from a family without
    prejudice, and did not draw any negative conclusions about the characters.
    My dad would never have allowed it.   At least that's how I remember it. It
    was very funny, made me laugh.   When in later years I became aware of
    negative feelings of the NAACP and others,  I thought about it and since I
    wasn't Black I didn't feel I had the right to impose my opinions on people
    who lived as second-class citizens in very many parts of this country during
    that period.  Every movement for equality may seem extreme in its criteria
    and standards, especially in the early years, and to me that's very
    understandable. There is usually a period in such awakening of consciousness
    when the pent-up anger is extremely tuned in to what it sees as negative
    stereotyping, and which seeks respect and positive characterization, by its
    definition, not those of us on the outside.  It's hard to charge
    oversensitivity, even if you believe that is sometimes the case,  if you
    haven't walked in their shoes.   In the community of my childhood I recall
    that in high school, we affectionately sometimes called each other by ethnic
    nicknames, and it was truly affectionate, but it was similar to the common
    experience of "I can criticize (or ridicule, or stereotype, or whatever) my
    family members but we'll close ranks if an outsider does so."  Just think of
    the first women's movement, that for the right of women to vote, (and the
    abuse suffragettes suffered)  the later women's or feminist movement, gay
    rights, Indian rights.   Those who don't want change always seem to
    outnumber those who do, even some people for whose benefit change is
    intended.   The message and the sensitivity and the methods were most
    extreme at the beginning, saying 'pay serious attention to me - things have
    got to change'.   At some point, as society has been forced to change to
    accommodate more people and more diversity, often kicking and screaming, the
    time comes when we are able to put something into its historical context.
    It would be hard to listen to and enjoy much of Old Time Radio if we didn't
    do so within its historical context.  I don't think anyone of good will and
    intention was wrong or right about A&A. except those bigots who laughed and
    drew conclusions, and perhaps strength,  from their skewed point of view.
    As a child of Greek immigrants, and a first-generation American I know I may
    have different reactions to a constantly-changing society, but my experience
    was not negative.   I guess there weren't enough Greeks around to worry
    anyone.  And those 'different' foods we had, which kind of amazed my
    suburban friends, yogurt, a big block of feta in a big jar of brine,
    baklava, are now a solid part of American culture, at least in urban areas.

    Cheers,

    -Irene

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    Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:56:25 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OMF and the Hungarian revolution

    I was driving up to Columbus this afternoon when a police car passed me on
    some sort of official business, and I thought about some lines in what may
    have been an episode of One Man's Family.

    There was a revolution in Hungary in about 1956.  The Hungarians had had it
    with Soviet rule, but their leaders sold them out and the Red Army rolled in
    to save the day for the USSR.  There was significant slaughter, and a good
    many escapees managed to make it here.

    So there's this Hungarian woman, newly arrived in the US, and the family
    that adopted her, probably a Barbour of some sort, is taking her for a ride.
      Suddenly there's a siren, and a police car speeds by.  Our Hungarian lady
    is terrified, but her hosts reassure her that someone had probably made an
    illegal left turn or something, and that we're not afraid of our police here
    in the United States.

    My father was a steady listener to One Man's Family, and you'd have thought
    he'd have learned something about being wise and patient and saintly, but he
    never did.  Anyway, I heard enough Volumes and Books to fill a library, and
    I think this was one of them.  Am I correct, or would this have been some
    other show?

    M Kinsler
    512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
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    Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:57:05 -0400
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  All the news that's fit for radio

    While on the West Coast recently I encountered a journal
    billing itself "The East Bay's Independent Newspaper" with a
    moniker of "The Berkeley Daily Planet."  That title stuck
    with me.  What a throwback to a vintage era!  I mused to
    myself:  How many other names of OTR-oriented print organs
    might there be out there?  In memory this was my initial
    encounter with one although I regularly peruse "The
    Illustrated Press" newsletter of the Old Time Radio Club
    headquartered in Lancaster, N. Y.  Do patrons of this forum
    know of similarly labeled print communications?

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:58:13 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: A&A on TV

    On 4/27/06 10:30 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     Yeah, just got my satellite tv schedule for May, and there they are: May 9 at
>     9:30 pm Eastern time, on the Turner channel.  Enjoy Check and Double Check!

    Of course, Correll and Gosden themselves would be absolutely horrified at
    the notion that people were still looking at this film 76 years later --
    both of them found it embarassingly bad, so much so that for as long as
    he lived, Freeman Gosden refused to let his children see it, condemning
    it at "the worst movie ever made."

    The big problem, of course, is that it was impossible to translate the
    original "Amos 'n' Andy" radio series to any visual medium given the
    richness of its original serial format. The program's humor was quiet and
    subtle and characterization was built slowly over storylines that lasted
    for weeks or months at a time -- with the emphasis on plot and character,
    not jokes and gags. "Check and Double Check" utterly abandoned any
    pretense of capturing the actual mood of the radio program by not only
    grafting on a silly plot about boring rich white people, but by having
    Amos and Andy saying and doing things they never would have done had
    Correll and Gosden themselves had any input at all into the script. The
    fact that no visual adaptation of the series ever captured the genius of
    the original serial is testimony to the fact that radio is *radio,* and
    should not be forced to be something it isn't. As Charles Correll put it,
    "All we could do was disillusion everyone -- everyone had their own idea
    what Amos and Andy looked like." Which is as it should be.

    This subject is considered in greater detail in my book from McFarland &
    Co, The Original Amos 'n' Andy -- Freeman Gosden, Charles Correll, and
    the 1928-43 Radio Serial, available via
    [removed]~[removed]

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:13:54 -0400
    From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
    To: Old Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  It's That Time Again 3

    I enjoyed the first two volumes of "It's That Time
    Again," featuring new stories of old time radio, so I
    ordered volume 3 in the series as soon as it became
    available. When it arrived, I immediately turned to a
    story listed in the index as "The Great Gildersleeve
    Meets Honest Harold in 'Satuday Morning Paper'." Alas,
    Honest Harold never appeared in the story (unless
    perhaps he was the silent, unidentified man in Floyd's
    barber chair; if so, that hardly counts). Then I
    turned to the foreword by Norman Corwin and found it
    to be just two sentences long, both of those sentences
    praising the book's editor. Despite these
    disappointments, I look forward to reading the rest of
    the book.

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    Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:15:29 -0400
    From: "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@[removed];
    To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Thanks!
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    Thanks to all who were so kind as to extend birthday greetings to Fred Foy,
    and a few weeks later to me through my netcast EMAIL:
    HeritageRadio@[removed]<mailto:HeritageRadio@[removed];
    Tom Heathwood - on my birthday  4/27/06

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