Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #92
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 3/23/2005 11:12 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 92
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Jack Benny's ads                      [ David Loftus <dloft59@[removed] ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@VintageRad ]
      3-23 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Edgar Bergen & Powel Crosley, Jr.     [ OzRadio <ozradio1@[removed]; ]
      Why do you listen to OTR?             [ "Keith Dabney" <keithd7@[removed]; ]
      Lindberg trial                        [ "David K. Bialik" <dkbialik@[removed] ]
      information search /Our Miss Brools   [ <cooldown3@[removed]; ]
      Change of EMAIL                       [ "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@m ]
      Don Wilson Speaking on Behalf of Acm  [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Dr Who Returns                        [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
      Ted Brown                             [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      On OTR publishing                     [ "Dominick Cancilla" <mac@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:43:24 -0500
    From: David Loftus <dloft59@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Benny's ads

    "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]; wrote:

>     I've been watching a lot of old Jack Benny TV shows and have been really
>     struck by the commercials (which are very similar to the radio show
>     commerical, giving this post on-topic cover).  Specifically, I'm astounded by
>     all the different slogans and jingles used by Lucky Strike, and how they'd
>     cram as many of them as possible into one commercial.  Slogans/jingles
>     include:

>     - LS/MFT
>     - So round, so firm, so fully packed, so free and easy on the draw.
>     - It's toasted (to taste better).
>     - Luckies taste better - cleaner, fresher, smoother.

    As you noted, many of those slogans went back years, and were heavily
    used in the ads that appeared on Benny's radio show.  They were so
    ubiquitous that they also turned up in the scripts -- a fact I was unaware
    of for many years because I grew up hearing just the shows and not the
    ads that preceded and were interspersed with them.

    For instance, Benny's announcer Don Wilson often read those ads
    himself, so listeners would have been used to hearing him deliver
    those lines. There's an episode where Jack and Mary go to the race
    track, and they overhear Don ordering a hamburger; he uses the
    same phrases, "round, firm, and fully packed" while ordering, and
    that sequence of jokes meant nothing to me until years later when I
    started hearing the old Lucky Strike advertisements.

>     I'm sure I've missed a couple.  Modern advertising seems to take only a
>     single theme/slogan/jingle in each spot,

    That's for sure!  Apparently, listeners and viewers have been deemed
    unable to handle more than one concept or line at a time.  And
    the lines' performance life is much shorter over time, too. The other
    day I was wondering what happened to "Where's the Beef?" and
    "The Un-Cola". . . .

    David Loftus

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:55:25 -0500
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi friends,

    	Here is this week's line-up for the week of 3-20-05 on my Olde Tyme
    Radio
    [removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
    Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
    Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
    streaming RealAudio at [removed]

    Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

    We look forward to having you join us!

    	Jerry

    Here's this week's lineup:

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

    THE WORLD'S BEST
    Episode 9  8-18-41  "Room Without a Door"
    NBC BLUE  Sustained

    INHERITANCE
    Episode 6  5-16-54  "Flight To Nowhere"
    NBC   AMERICAN LEGION    Sundays 4:30 - 5:00 pm
    PRODUCER/DIRECTOR: Albert McCleary
    ANNOUNCER: John Wald
    MUSIC: Robert Armbruster

    THEATER OF ROMANCE
    Episode 69  10-23-45  "Forty-Second Street"
    Stars: Robert Alda, Janice Paige

    THE DEFENSE RESTS
    Episode 1  4-17-51
    Stars Mercedes McCambridge
    =======================================

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

    GRAND OLE OPRY
    NBC - 11/25/50 - 25th Anniversary Show with Red Foley, The Dinning Sisters,
    Uncle Dave Macon, George D. Hay, The Jordanairs, The Possom Hunters. One of
    radio's longest lasting shows.

    HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL
    CBS -1/18/59 - John Dehner stars as "Palladin" with Ben Wright as "Heyboy"
    in "3 Bells To Perdido"

    BIG JON AND SPARKY
    1950-51 Jon Arthur does all the voices on this show which ABC also featured
    as "No School Today" on Saturdays. "The Beginning of a Long Voyage Home"
    ========================================

    THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

    This Week's Glowing Dial Program Schedule:

     Jeff Regan, Investigator - "The Gambler and His Lady"
    originally aired December 11, 1948 on CBS West Coast
    Starring: Jack Webb, Herb Butterfield, Jack Petruzzi, Sidney Miller, Mary
    Lansing, Laurette Fillbrandt, Bob Stevenson announcing.
    Sustained

    Mr. and Mrs. North - "The Wheel of Chance"
    originally aired June 30, 1953 on CBS
    Starring: Alice Frost, Joseph Curtin, Joe King announcing.
    Sponsor: Colgate Palmolive Peet Co.

    The Thin Man - "The Adventure of the Passionate Palooka"
    originally aired July 6, 1948 on NBC
    Starring: Claudia Morgan, Les Tremayne, Ed Herlihy announcing.
    Sponsor: Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer

    The Saint - "The Schizophrenic Psychiatrist"
    originally aired September 18, 1949 on MUTUAL
    Starring: Vincent Price, Betty Lou Gerson, Jeanne Bates, Frank Gerstle, Bill
    Conrad, Barney Phillips, Merrill Ross announcing.
    Sponsor: Ford Motor Company (commercials excised from this episode)

    Mr. District Attorney - "The Case of the Desert Killer"
    originally aired circa 1952 thru Frederick Ziv Syndication
    Starring: David Brian.
    Sponsor: varied according to market
    ====================================

    Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
    shows.

                Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
      Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:55:33 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-23 births/deaths

    March 23rd births

    03-23-1905 - Joan Crawford - San Antonio, TX - d. 5-10-1977
    actress: "Arch Oboler's Plays"; "Everyman's Theatre"; "Screen Guild
    Theatre"
    03-23-1910 - Akira Kurosawa, Tokyo, Japan - d. 9-6-1998
    film director: NHK Tokyo, Japan
    03-23-1910 - Paula Winslowe - d. 3-7-1996
    actress: Peg Riley "Life of Riley"; Jill "Joe E. Brown Show"
    03-23-1912 - Francis De Sales - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-25-1988
    actor: Bill Weigand "Mr. and Mrs. North"; Parris Mitchell "King's Row"

    03-23-1916 - Grant Richards - Raleigh, NC - d. 7-4-1963
    actor: Charles Dobbs "This Is Nora Drake"; Hal Thomas "Against the
    Storm"
    03-23-1917 - Oscar Shumsky - Philadelphia, PA - d. 7-24-2000
    violinist: "Voice of Firestone"
    03-23-1920 - Maurice Marsac - La Croix, France
    actor: French Teacher "Our Miss Brooks"
    03-23-1926 - Martha Wright - Seattle, WA
    actress: "Stars for Defense"

    March 23rd deaths

    02-13-1920 - Eileen Farrell - Willimantic, CT - d. 3-23-2002
    singer: "Eileen Farrell Sings"; "Prudential Family Hour"
    02-16-1910 - Jerry Lester - Chicago, IL - d. 3-23-1995
    actor: John Benson "Life of Mary Sothern"
    03-25-1920 - Howard Cosell - Winston-Salem, NC - d. 3-23-1995
    sportscaster: "Speaking of Sports"
    06-03-1905 - Paulette Goddard - Whitestone Landing, Long Island, NY -
    d. 3-23-1990
    actress: "Cresta Blanca Players"
    06-26-1904 - Peter Lorre - Rozsahegy, Hungary - d. 3-23-1964
    actor: [removed] Moto "Mr. Moto"; "Creeps By Night"; "; "Mystery in the
    Air"
    10-03-1910 - Gwen Davenport - Colon, Canal Zone, Panama - d. 3-23-2002

    author: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    xx-xx-xxxx - Peggy Allenby - d. 3-23-1966
    actress: Mary Andrews "Archie Andrews"; Helen Gowan "The Road of Life"

    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:56:18 -0500
    From: OzRadio <ozradio1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Edgar Bergen & Powel Crosley, Jr.

    I'm looking for biographical information on Edger
    Bergen and Powel Crosley, Jr. I've found one
    out-of-print book on Crosley and have ordered it
    through interlibrary loan. I have not found any
    references to a good Bergen biograpy. Can anyone point
    me to published works on the lives of these two men?
    Thanks,
    Ryan

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:18 -0500
    From: "Keith Dabney" <keithd7@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Why do you listen to OTR?

    My spouse has been, for quite a while, both amused and confused as to how
    much enjoyment I receive from listening to OTR.  I have struggled to explain
    why I get so much out of the hobby.  In essence, I offer her two primary
    reasons:

    1. Genuine enjoyment of the shows:  Be it comedy, detective or drama show
    many of the series were well written and acted.  The acting was in a medium
    that many of todays "actors" would find daunting.  At times, the story lines
    or events admittedly do have a dated and unrealistic quality.  But, not
    nearly as much as one would think.  Many of the shows actually hold up quite
    well under the weight of time (especially the comedies).

    2. Nostalgia:  OTR is for me a trip back in time.  It offers people a chance
    to experience a world that is no longer.  That is one reason I prefer to
    listen to the shows with the commercials, network announcements, etc. all
    intact.  I suppose it also dovetails with my interest in history in general.

    How do others feel?  What are the reasons we need to articulate to keep the
    art of OTR alive, to share with others the enjoyment that is available in
    abundant and relatively inexpensive quantities?

    Keith

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:02:53 -0500
    From: "David K. Bialik" <dkbialik@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lindberg trial
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

    Does anyone know if there are any recordings of the coverage of the Lindberg
    kidnapping trial?

    David Bialik

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:42:28 -0500
    From: <cooldown3@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  information search /Our Miss Brools

    Hi All,

    A friend of mine in Canada is looking through his collection of OBM anmd is
    trying to pinpoint the broadcast date of the "American Tragedy" program.
    He feels it had to be sometime in 1955 based on the presence of Lud Gluskin
    who replaced Wilbur Hatch in Apr '54 and was replaced by Wilbur in July of
    '55.

    As there are several references to Cristal LAke in this program, and it says
    they were to "open the cabin early" he is postulating on the date being one
    of the last 2 weeks in May of '55. This is based on conversations with a
    friend who taught high school in California, in the L A area during the'50s
    and also on the distance to a "cristal Lake" near Azusa, in the San gabriel
    Mountains.

    He feels any earlier than the last 2 weeks would yet be too cold for the
    5600 ft altitude, any later than May and there would be too much to do in
    preparing the graduating class of '55 which should be the 3rd weekend that
    year. Of course after graduation it would not be opening the cabin early.

    Can anyone step in here with anything to help?

    Thanks,
    Patrick

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:19:58 -0500
    From: "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Change of EMAIL

    For those who are wondering - my new general EMAIL address is now:
    HeritageRadio@[removed]
    The Heritage PO Box 16, Chestnut Hill, MA  02467  remains the same and
    the Heritage Radio Webpage is still [removed]
    Of course, we are still doing Heritage Radio Theatre at Jerry's site at:
    [removed]
    Don't know how well the new MSN address will work out, but here's hoping it
    will be less problematic than the AOL one was.
    Tom Heathwood - HeritageRadio@[removed]       3/22/05

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:34:50 -0500
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Don Wilson Speaking on Behalf of Acme Prisons

    On a special on Prisons on NPR today I'd have sworn the announcer in
    an old newsreel/promo for modern prisons was Don Wilson. Did anybody
    else hear it, or know if Don did newsreels or promotional films?

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    Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:47:43 -0500
    From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dr Who Returns

    For those interested, BBC Radio 2 has a series of radio shows available to
    listen again related to the return of Dr Who.  You can find them at:

    [removed]

    Thank you very much the BBC.

    Love as always, David Rogers

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    Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:52:59 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ted Brown

>     Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:40:48 -0500
>     From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];

>     Was this the same Ted Brown who, as "Bison Bill," hosted the Howdy
>     Doody show for several months while Buffalo Bob Smith was recovering
>     from a heart attack?

    I've heard from Jeff Judson, who runs the Doodyville Historical Society, that this is the same
    guy.  Ted Brown was hired to host the Howdy Doody Show after Buffalo Bob's heart attack
    over Labor Day weekend 1954.

    Buffalo Bob returned to the show shortly after the first of the year, but he was on a remote
    from his home in New Rochelle (They said he was at "Pioneer Village."), and Bison Bill
    continued to host the show in the studio.  When Buffalo Bob finally returned to Doodyville full-
    time in September 1955, Bison Bill said it was time for him to be moving on and rode off into
    the sunset.

    Some people say that he returned to host the show during Buffalo Bob's vacations, but I
    don't remember that.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:29:07 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:11:46 -0500
    From: "Dominick Cancilla" <mac@[removed];
    To: "OTR Listserve" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  On OTR publishing

    I like Patrick's suggestion about a loose-leaf OTR reference book. However, I
    feel that it is impractical for two reasons. First, because many people
    would find having to replace pages an inconvenience (after years of updating
    tax-law documents before they went online, I sure do). And second,
    because even if it becomes the focus of all OTR scholarship, the expense will
    still be significant.

    What I would suggest instead would be that someone set up an OTR version of
    [removed] If you are not familiar with Wikipedia, this is an
    online encyclopedia authored by its users. Anyone can easily add, modify, or
    correct entries. Having the resource online would eliminate the cost
    and inconvenience of loose-leaf inserts, and would allow the resource to
    updated instantly. Mistakes could be corrected as soon as they were
    found.

    With strong community input and someone knowledgable overseeing the whole
    project, this could become the premier OTR reference site in short
    order.

    Of course, we as OTR collectors could simply make a commitment to start
    visiting Wikipedia and entering information there. That would be
    appropriate and the resource is already availalble. It would also increase
    the chances of non-collectors stumbling on information that might draw
    them into the hobby. In fact, there are already Wikipedia articles about many
    OTR subjects (the Lone Ranger entry even mentions that his first name
    wasn't John). On the other hand, I think many of us would enjoy a dedicated
    site.

    Thoughts?

    --Dominick

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