Subject: [removed] Digest V2011 #91
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Date: 6/10/2011 10:18 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2011 : Issue 91
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      John Dunning's Books                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Patriotic PSA's                       [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Dunning's OTR books                   [ Gregg Oppenheimer <gopp@[removed]; ]
      Lum and Abner                         [ Donald Pitchford <donald@lumandabne ]

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:24:28 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  John Dunning's Books

     Phil C. commented:

>     Obviously one of John Dunning's goals for "On the Air: The Encyclopedia of
>     Old-Time Radio" was to correct errors made in his earlier version ("Tune in
>     Yesterday: The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio 1925-1976") and
>     doubtless he succeeded.  Therefore I find it interesting that a correct fact
>     in the earlier book was changed into an incorrect one in his revised book.
>     In "Tune in Yesterday" he correctly named a character on the Jimmy Durante
>     Show as Hotbreath Houlihan but in the revised book the name given is Hotlips
>     Houlihan.  That obviously shows what a strong influence the TV series
>     M*A*S*H had!

    The best part about second editions and revised editions is that incorrect
    information often gets corrected. I have thousands of books filling almost
    two dozen book shelves and I don't think there is a single book that doens't
    have a mistake or two somewhere. It's not uncommon for a second or revised
    edition of a book to make a mistake, believing a correction is being made,
    but the hundreds of minor corrections and additional details outweigh the one
    or two errors. The good thing is someone is taking the time to make the
    corrections, and pencils are used to jot down the corrections in the books.

    While Phil's point is valid, it should be noted in general that there is a
    difference between the types of incorrect information. Older books often have
    errors (Dunning's has hundreds) but they were not done on purpose and were
    accurate at the time the book was printed. New information is found every day
    and only after a book gets printed does new information come to light to
    reveal something no one knew before.

    Case in point, Dunning's entry on THE SHADOW. There are more than two dozen
    glaring errors in that episode entry alone. Dunning isn't at fault, though,
    because at the time the book was written, all of today's errors were
    yesterday's facts. Summed up, while a book from the 1970s on a particular
    radio program (say for example, THE LONE RANGER) has dozens of errors today,
    they were facts back then. And the new information eventually comes to print
    and reveals the truth about what we did not know three decades ago.

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:25:04 -0400
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Patriotic PSA's
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    In a message dated 6/9/2011 9:23:24 [removed] Central Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     but I  think you may be talking about the programs aired to our troops
>     overseas.  The commercials were removed for broadcasting by  AFRTS and
>     patriotic bits along with USAFI

    I know what you're talking about but none of these were AFRTS shows.   The
    Fibber and Molly shows still contained the NBC chimes and IDs, numerous
    promos for shows ranging from "You Bet Your Life" to "The Roy Rogers Show" to
    "Barry Craig," and many of them had commercials for Carters Little Liver
    Pills,  Tums, Richard Hudnut Hair Products, and Arrid deodorant.  Plus the
    "Our
     Miss Brooks" episode I mentioned had all its Palmolive, Lustre Creme and
    Colgate  commercials intact, along with the CBS system cue.  So these clearly
    came  from the commercial networks, an edited AFRS show wouldn't have had
    these.

    Dixon

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:03:21 -0400
    From: Gregg Oppenheimer <gopp@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dunning's OTR books

>     Obviously one of John Dunning's goals for "On the Air: The Encyclopedia of
>     Old-Time Radio" was to correct errors made in his earlier version ....

>     --Phil C.

    Dunning also lists the writers of "My Favorite Husband" as "Bob Carroll Jr.
    and Madelyn Pugh" - omitting the head writer. Where he got this info is a
    mystery, because every single episode from 1949 to 1951 includes closing
    on-air credits in which the announcer, Bob LeMond, says, "The program was
    directed by Jess Oppenheimer, who wrote the script together with Madelyn Pugh
    and Bob Carroll Jr."

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:26:40 -0400
    From: Donald Pitchford <donald@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lum and Abner

    I would like to invite everyone to visit the National Lum and Abner Society
    web site. We just had a great time in Mena, Arkansas at the 2011 Lum and
    Abner Festival. There is full coverage of our events on the site.
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    Also, I am honored to announce the new "Lum and Abner" comic strip! I am the
    writer-cartoonist for this project which is being published online by First
    Arkansas News. They are negotiating with editors for printed distribution as
    well. Sponsors are needed for this to continue, of course. The first strip is
    online now and a new one will be published each Sunday. Additionally, we are
    offering a "click to listen" link which will allow the reader to hear an
    audio dramatization with voices, music and sound effects. Please check the
    strip out at
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    Thank you so much!
    Donnie Pitchford / NLAS / "Lum and Abner"

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