From:	SMTP%"[removed]@[removed]" 28-NOV-1995 20:49[removed]:	otr@[removed]:	Subj:	[removed] Digest V95 #420 	********************************************************                      ------   # NOTE #   -------SEE INFO SECTION AT END OF THIS DIGEST FOR UNSUBSCRIBE AND OTHER INFORMATION. 		====  INFO SECTION UPDATED 8/19/95  ====	********************************************************	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 420Articles in this issue of [removed]:	 Truespeech	 Murder At Midnight log info	 THE CHASE question	 Kelsey Grammer _on_ Radio	 Pepsi Storage Carts	 Music Broadcasts in Early 20s	 Finally, an introduction	 BOOK: Same Time ... Same Station  	 The new guy on the block	 Library of Congress OTR Holdings, Again	 WAV files once again----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:53:12 ESTFrom: filfeit@[removed] (Fil Feit)To: otr@[removed]: TruespeechMessage-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>>Take a look at the Truespeech format, which is provided with>>Windows>>    95 and NT (Win [removed] DLLs are downloadable for free from Microsoft).  A>>half hour>>    radio show takes only [removed] MB and sounds quite good, almost as good as AM>>radio.>*****************************************************************>That would just about fit onto a [removed]" floppy- would there be a way to>compress it, so a 30 minute show would fit on 1 floppy?>What exactly is Truespeech? Does your post mean that there is a WFW [removed]>version available? Does it run under the Windows Audio Player?>Does anyone know of a good conversion program that runs under Windows that>will turn other formats into WAV files?>Thanks>Stuart>I'm not the original poster, but I'll toss in my .16 [removed] compresses sound at the rate of 1067 bytes per second; that'sjust a tad over [removed] for 30 minutes.  The format is proprietary to DSPGroup Inc.  It claims to provide high quality telephony bandwidth, andis used primarily for speech.  Standard [removed]" diskettes can be formattedto provide the additional 400K of space, but it would be a real pain towrite windows drivers for that format.  Truespeech diskettes might be a good way to store and transfer radio [removed] company called Echo Speech Corp also has a speech compression formatthat uses only 450 bytes/second.  That's less than 800K per 30 minutes;an hour would need just a tad over a standard [removed]" diskette (but it couldbe made to fit).I haven't heard the quality of either of these formats; both should haveMCI drivers (ie, they can be played with microsoft's media player, withthe appropriate driver).As for conversion, since both formats are proprietary, it's up to thecompanies to provide either details or [removed]'d like to hear how sound effects, theme songs, etc. compress in theseformats.  If I have time, I'll make a phone call or [removed]: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:23:30 -0500 (EST)From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)To: otr@[removed]: Murder At Midnight log infoMessage-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>Hi All, Thanks to Jerry Shnay, who sent me a copy of his MAM log, I was able toupdate mine. His info put dates to all those shows in vendor catalogs withoutdates. The updated log follows:------------------------------------------------------------------------------                       M U R D E R   A T   M I D N I G H T                     -----------   ---   ---------------                                  1946 - 1947?       First Show: 03-07-47                             Last Show: 09-26-47     Number Shows: 30                             Audition Show: none known       Show Description:      This series was produced by radio station KFI in Los Angeles and was     syndicated in 1946.  It featured tales of the supernatural and the     macabre by radio's top writers and stars.  Listeners heard wild tales     of death at midnight, "the witching hour, when night is darkest, our     fears the strongest, our strength at it's lowest ebb.  Midnight when     the graves gape open and Death strikes".      Robert Newman, Joseph Rustcall, Max Erlich and William Norwood handled     the writing.  The cast featured Elspith Eric, Mercedes McCambridge,     Barry Kroeger, Betty Kane, Carl Frank, Barry Hopkins, Lawson Zerbie.     Charles Paul played the creepy organ music, and Anton M. Leider <sp?>     directed.       List Comments:      The information in various catalogs was sparse at best.  Only a few     mentioned a few broadcast dates.  Jerry Shnay's list (see Feedback     below) was far more complete, so I'm basing my list on his. He did     comment that the show was syndicated, which can account for lack of     or differences in dates from various sources.  He did comment that     his dates are from a Chicago station.      Where vendor dates or episode numbers were different, I have listed      them after or below the title in parentheses.  Where Jerry's list was      the only one with episode numbers, I put a question mark after the      number.  This only means that 2 or more information sources couldn't      be found and is no reflection on the accuracy of Jerry's information.      One title, "The House Where Death Lived", didn't match any on Jerry's     list and is listed at the end of the list.  It may be "The House That      Time Forgot".       List:          Date      Num  Title                                 Src Key         --------  ---  ------------------------------------  ---------         03-07-47    1  "The Dead Hand"           (09-16-46)  12345 7         03-14-47    2  "The Man Who Was Death"   (09-23-46)  1 345         03-21-47    3  "Secret of XR3"           (09-30-46)  1 345 7         03-28-47    4  "Whereever I Go"                      1 345 7         04-04-47    5  "Trigger Man"                         1 345 7         04-11-47    6  "Curse of Death's Goblet"             1 345 7         04-18-47    7  "Heavy Death"                         1 34  7         04-25-47    8  "Nightmare" (with Elspeth Eric)       1 34  7         05-02-47    9  "The Dead Came Back"                  1 34         05-09-47   10  "Terror Out of Space"                 1 34         05-16-47   11  "The Creeper"                         1  4  7         05-23-47   12  "The Man Who Died Yesterday"          1 34  7         05-30-47   13  "Till Death Do Us Part"               1 3         06-06-47   14  "Murder Is a Lonely Business"         1 3         06-13-47   15? "The Caballah"                  (15)  1 3         06-20-47   16? "Ace of Death"                  (16)  1 3         06-27-47   17? "The House That Time Forgot"    (17)  1   5         07-04-47   18? "A Week Ago Wednesday"         07-11-47   19? "The 13th Floor"                        3 5         07-18-47   20? "Mark of Cain"         07-25-47   21? "Man With the Black Beard"             234  7                          (02-03-47, #30)           08-01-47   22? "Red Wheels"         08-08-47   23? "Isle of the Dead"                      3         08-15-47   24? "Black Swan"                            3         08-22-47   25? "Death Tolls a Requiem"                 3         08-29-47   26? "Death Across the Board"                3         09-05-47   27? "Murder Out of Mind"                        7         09-12-47   28? "Death's Worshipper"                    3         09-19-47   29  "Ape Song"                              34 67         09-26-47   30  "The Line Is Dead"                      3   7                                               15  "The House Where Death Lived"         1 3      Information Sources:      The information above was obtained from the following OTR vendor     and club catalogs.  Contact them directly for more information.          Key  Source         ---  ----------------------------------------------------------          1   Edward J. Carr, 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19512.          2   University of Memphis Radio Program Archive, Learning              Media Center, The University of Memphis, Memphis, TN              38152          3   Steve Kelez, Radio Showcase, [removed] Box 4357, Santa Rosa,              CA 95402          4   Bob Burnham, BRC Productions, PO Box 2645, Livonia, MI              48151-0645          5   Society for the Preservation of Entertainment Radio,              Variety And Comedy (SPERDVAC), PO Box 7177, Van Nuys,              CA 91409-7177          6   Radio Historical Association of Colorado, [removed] Box 1908,              Englewood, CO 80150          7   North American Radio Archives (NARA), 134 Vincewood Dr.,              Nicolasville, KY 40356.      Although I have had favorable dealings with some of the above, to be     fair to all, this is not an endorsement of them. I receive nothing     by mentioning them.       Feedback (Thanks!):      Andrew C. Green <acg@[removed]> wrote:     > ...the director's first name above should be Anton, not Antoine.     > <snip> ... his surname may be spelled Leider or Lieder.      Jerry Shnay <jshnay@[removed]> sent a Murder at Midnight log, which I     have incorporated here (a very big thanks). He also commented "The     House Where Death Lived" may actually be "The House That Time Forgot".       Last Update: 11-27-95       Although I retain copyright, this log may be freely copied provided     that the text is unchanged.  Please share it with fellow OTR lovers.      I would greatly appreciate any error corrections or additional     information. Please send them to: Frank Passage, 109 Elmwood Road,     Verona, NJ 07044 or via e-mail to passage@[removed] ------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:38:28 -0500 (EST)From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)To: otr@[removed]: THE CHASE questionMessage-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>Hi All, I noticed a series called THE CHASE in Steve Kelez (Radio Showcase) catalogthat ran 1952/53. It has different actors for each show and Steve's catalogshows different subjects. Some are science fiction, horror, mystery, [removed] not heard any of these shows, can someone comment on the series? Frank------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:18:36 -0600From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>To: otr@[removed]: Kelsey Grammer _on_ RadioMessage-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>This morning's Chicago Sun-Times has a long article on Kelsey Grammercovering a variety of topics, including his upcoming (Thursday, 10 [removed], NBC) Jack Benny tribute special, of which he says, "I'm a hugefan of Jack Benny.""I never met him, but he made so much sense to me. I have aspired to havethe same comfort with myself that he had as a performer. In my 'Frasier'acting, I often dip my hand into the well of Benny reactions.""For me, the most influential thing Jack Benny said was: 'I always playup to my audience.' That's what I strive to do in my work."Another item worth quoting which I haven't seen noted here yet is thatnext February 28, "he will perform here with the Shattered Globe Theatrein a radio production of 'The Manchurian Candidate' for 'Chicago Theatreson the Air,' a drama to be broadcast on WFMT-FM ([removed])."So whether or not he's regarded as highly as Jack Benny (okay, I don'tthink he's as good either, but I find his "Frasier" to be one of the mostintellectually entertaining sitcoms on TV these days), he does seem to bestriving in the right [removed] C. Green            (312) 266-4431Adobe Systems, Inc. (formerly Frame Technology)Advanced Product Services441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed], IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:53:25 -0500From: ESPALMER@[removed]: [removed]@[removed]: Pepsi Storage CartsMessage-ID: <951128105323_118588882@[removed]>Stuart,The carts are blue plastic flats Pepsi uses to ship their pop. Ask a bottleclerk and I'm sure they'll know what they are. You just have to pay thedeposit (or a small charge if your state does not require [removed]@[removed]: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:58:53 -0800 (PST)From: John Tenney <jten@[removed]>To: otr@[removed]: Music Broadcasts in Early 20sMessage-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>I have been doing an oral history project with older musicians in the San Francisco area. One of my colleagues frequently played harp on WOAW in Omaha, in 1923. The announcers solicited mail from listeners nationwide to determine how far the signal was getting; she has letters from California to Massachusetts confirming receipt of the program (besides praising the harpist, who was all of 13 at the time). Is anyone interested in having copies of this documentation? If so, you may reply to me privately: jten@[removed] Thanks, John Tenney------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:27:22 ESTFrom: elucitti@[removed] (Ellie Lucitti -- Admin. - Hartford )To: otr@[removed]: Finally, an introductionMessage-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>To: otr@[removed]                             Hello.  I'm Ellie Lucitti.  Recently, I joined the OTR group andnever introduced myself.  I joined because I have a set of tapeswith a wonderful story (Les Miserables) but the collection wasmissing two episodes.  My request to the OTR group was successful! For this, I am so very thankful, especially to Joe who sent me mymissing tapes out of kindness and consideration to help an [removed], when I started reading the newsletter, I thought everythingwas w-a-y over my head, [removed], 1/4" tapes vs. 1/2", reel-to-reel,etc.  All I had was one set of tapes (humble).  Reading further thanthe technical stuff, however, brings back some early memories--TheLone Ranger, in particular.  When I was 6 or 7 yrs. old, one thing Iclearly remember is a chug-a-lug song after some show thatencouraged the listener to chug down a glass of milk and the lastone to finish was a boomph-ta-di-ya-da, boomp, boomp! (sp)  I know,I [removed] corny, but I DID chug-a-lug the milk down!  Anyoneremember?And lastly, to try to get up to speed on programs, can someoneplease tell me what OTR stations are in the Hartford, CT area?  Ithink the bug has bitten!  Thanks for [removed]    ------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:55:21 -0500From: KENPILETIC@[removed]: otr@[removed]: BOOK: Same Time ... Same Station  Message-ID: <951128155513_118860213@[removed]>Hi Gang -                  November 28 - 1995  Tuesday  2:55 PM cstThe UPS man was just here.  He delivered my copy of Ron Lackmann's new book, SAME [removed] STATION -  An A-Z Guide to Radio from Jack Bennyto Howard [removed] book is a beauty.  It's hard bound, written on quality paper, and about the size of a volume from the Encyclopaedia Britannica.  There are370 pages, including Seven Appendices, a Bibliography, and an Index. The forward is by Norman [removed] is in alphabetical order, so this is an excellent referencebook.  There are many photographs, most of which have not appeared in other OTR books.  Since I just got the book, I have not had a chance to actually use it. Every entry appears to have the program dates, networks, day of week,time sponsor right up front.  Then a paragraph or two about the show,the actors, the plot, and any other incidental [removed] book is extremely well organized and the user (reader) can find anything no matter what "search" is [removed] is an excerpt of the forward by Norman Corwin:        Mr. Lackmann enters a field, radio, that was previously    plowed by historians in several books -- including John     Dunning's Tune In Yesterday, a landmark work (now out of    print) -- but he has broadened his time span from the     1920s to the present and, at the same time, has narrowed    his range to cover North American network radio, thus     eliminating independent and foreign programs.  Even     though he wisely irised down from the whole globe to the    northern half of the Western Hemisphere, his encyclopedia    still contains an impressive number of pages. Those of us who attended the FOTR Convention in Newark had the opportunityto pick up information and order forms from Ron.  Since the convention, the publisher, Facts On File, has moved.  Current information for orderingis as follows:     Facts On File      11 Penn Plaza 15th Floor      New York, New York 10001-2006      Phone 212-967-8800  --  Toll Free 800-322-8755     Fax 212-213-4578  --  Toll Free Fax 800-678-3633 When I ordered my book the price was $[removed] and that included shipping. I don't know if current orders will include shipping or not.  You'llhave to call and ask.  I recommend this book as a companion to Dunning's book.  Ron's book appears to have all of the correct facts, and it is more current than Dunning's.   With both books, the otr collector should be able to findjust about anything on any otr program. No, I'm not connected with Ron Lackmann or Facts On File.  I just appreciate a good thing when I see it, and I want to make as manypeople as possible aware of this new book.  SAME TIME ... SAME STATION-- Happy Taping --   Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois kenpiletic@[removed] ------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:03:19 -0500From: HowCornett@[removed]: otr@[removed]: The new guy on the blockMessage-ID: <951128180318_119005184@[removed]>Hello everyone!My name is Howard Cornett.  I am 26 and wish that there were more OTR beingproduced [removed] became acquainted with OTR as a teenager listening to a public radiostation out of Syracuse/Oswego, NY.  Every night from 8 to midnight Sundaythru Friday they played (and still do!!!) OTR!  I still try to listen to itwhen I [removed], I may be moving out of the area in the near future and will lose mysource of OTR enjoyment.  Does anyone know where I can listen to OTR on theradio?  Also, can I buy recording of it for my own use?Thank you for your help and I look forward to being a member of this digestHoward G. Cornett------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:55:10 -0500 (EST)From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>To: otr@[removed]: Library of Congress OTR Holdings, AgainMessage-ID: <[removed]@acme>Hi [removed]   I hate to bring all this up again, but I feel I must.  Recently, theguy who mentioned he had the FAT MAN "records" said he tried to give themto the Library of Congress, plus someone in the last digest reported to usabout another donation to the Library of Congress.   People who think they are doing something good for old time radiodonate material to the Library of Congress, when in fact, this is adis-service to the public.  The Library of Congress "protects thismaterial by burying it in some storeroom, most likely never to see thelight of day again.  We all know about the NBC collection they have, andwho knows what all else.   We've just been through a flame war about private property and you ownsthe rights to what otr programmes, and I'm really not trying to stir thatmess up again.  This whole business of the Library of Congress"protecting" us from hearing all the great otr shows they have reallyburns me up! Yes, I know if you go there you can listen to some of theirholdings, but this isn't fair access for all.   I know, I [removed] they are "protecting" the copyright owners wishes(whoever the proper owners are)... but it still burns me up! As it hasbeen suggested here in the digest before, these shows are our [removed] it's a shame they can't be released for everyone to [removed] they people who have donated the material more important than everyperson that may have a piece of copyright ownership?  And too, we havealready heard fellow digest readers site the copyright laws and how muchof the pre-1974 material is in the public domain, but try telling that tothe Library of Congress.   When they (the Library of Congress) asks for proof of copyrightownership (which is what they do), THEY should be made to prove thematerial IS copyrighted!  The laws and rules they follow are for THEIR owngood, not for the people who pay their wages.  I think if material is inthe hands of the government holdings, which all this stuff is in theLibrary of Congress, it should be made available to all us taxpayers, notjust a few.  Carl Amari just got out of their clutches the MARTIN & LEWISshows, which I guess proves that if you have enough money, you can doanything!   I know the Library of Congress could care less about my opinionsregarding this mater, but I would certainly like to TRY to do something,anything to change this policy (boy, am I naive, or what?)... anysuggestions where to start?     Sorry, I just had to vent this off my [removed]|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:09:06 -0500From: Nathan Gregory <ngregory@[removed]>To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>Subject: WAV files once againMessage-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>-- [ From: Nathan Gregory * [removed] #[removed] ] --Stuart asks>Not being technical, I agree that WAV files work, especially since theyplay with any >player that works under Windows.>StuartNathan replies>Take a look at the Truespeech format, which is provided with>Windows 95 and NT (Win [removed] DLLs are downloadable for free from Microsoft). >A half hour radio show takes only [removed] MB and sounds quite good, almost >as good as AM [removed] responds>That would just about fit onto a [removed]" floppy- would there be a way to>compress it, so a 30 minute show would fit on 1 floppy?>What exactly is Truespeech? Does your post mean that there is a WFW [removed]>version available? Does it run under the Windows Audio Player?>Does anyone know of a good conversion program that runs under Windows that>will turn other formats into WAV files?>Thanks>StuartTruespeech is a highly compressed audio format optimized for human [removed] was developed by DSP Group Inc., and Microsoft cut a deal with DSPG touse the technology in Windows.  The first codecs shipped with Windows NT, and have been available for some time now.  Codecs for other versionsof Windows are freely available.  Tools for manipulating the data format are included in the Visual C++ development kit.  It performs beautifullyfor speech, poorly for music and special effects, so the more sophisticatedthe show, the less likely it will sound good, but still it does pretty wellwith most [removed] only do they play under windows, but players are available for almostany other system, including Macs.  While the [removed] MB file is too big to fit on a standard floppy, there is a variant on the [removed]" format, which is nowused by Microsoft and others for distributing software which stretches thefloppy capacity to about [removed] MB.  Whether this is enough to get a typicalhalf hour show onto a floppy I don't know.  Given that the Truespeech formatis already highly compressed, it's unlikely that it will compress furtherwith PKZIP or other such programs.  Microsoft has .DLL files for [removed] and other variants (wfwg, wfwg [removed], etc) freely available on theirweb site.  There are conversion utilities aplenty.  Windows Sound Recordercan do some of them, and the shareware program SOX can do some others, andthere are a number of other programs [removed] have sent sample files to a number of folks in the last couple of [removed] else care to comment on their perception of the sound quality?  Ithink this is an excellent format for trading shows on the Internet.  Smallenough (barely) to email, and acceptable quality.  I plan to create someCD-ROMs with hundreds of shows on them for ease of access.  Anyone elsewho wants to hear for themselves email ne and I will send some sample [removed],Nathan------------------------------        ****  END OF ARTICLE SECTION - INFORMATION BOILERPLATE FOLLOWS ****1) Contacting the list [removed]) Unsubscribing from this list3) Receive a DIGEST READING TIPS file4) AIRWAVES web page5) Shareware Notice 6) Redistribution of [removed])  The [removed] maintainer can be reached at EDITOR@[removed]) To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send email [removed]@[removed] and place the word UNSUBSCRIBEalone on the Subject: line of your request.  The body ofrequest mail is ignored by the server.  If you are unable tounsubscribe using this method, and you are SURE you are doingeverything right, then (and only then) contact the administrator(wdp@[removed]) for assistance.  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