Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #167
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Date: 5/29/2005 10:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 167
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Sorry, Wrong Number               [ "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed]; ]
      victor rodney gook                    [ Grams46@[removed] ]
      Re: Victor Gook pronunciation         [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
      Re: More on M&M                       [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      A Question for Chuck Schaeden         [ JimInks@[removed] ]
      More on "Festus"                      [ "Don and Kathy Dean" <dxk@ezlinknet ]
      OTR cartoon                           [ "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed]; ]
      5-29 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Buka to join Seattle cast             [ HRRMIKES@[removed] ]
      Dunning's Book                        [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Eddie Albert on radio                 [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]

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    Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:25:28 -0400
    From: "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Sorry, Wrong Number

>     Subject:  Sorry, Wrong Number

>     Does any one know if it was ever a solo performance?

    Apart from radio, Moorhehead performed SWN for a late 1940s Decca
    recording and on personal appearance tours starting in the early '50s.
    Perhaps the script was used for rehearsing the latter. Here's a quote:

    ... In '54 Miss Moorehead organized a one-woman tour, billed as "That
    Fabulous Redhead," on which she read selections from Ring Lardner,
    Rupert Brooke, James Thurber, Guy de Maupassant, Marcel Proust, The
    Bible and Sorry, Wrong Number. ...

    Source: [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:27:58 -0400
    From: Grams46@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  victor rodney gook

    cliff writes:

>     I heard  a fellow playing OTR shows
>     pronouce  Vic's  last name as rhyming with "spook."   Either he never  heard
>     the show, his memory is failing or mine is.  I'm pretty  sure  Gook rhymes
>     with "Book."

    victor rodney gook's last name rhymes with book.   it also  rhymes with cook.
    one episode (9-20-1944) concerns sade's horror at  accidentally opening a
    letter (it was an overdue bill from kleebergers)  addressed to the reverend v.
    cook.
    peace from kathy
    Support our troops -  end the war
    John 3:16

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    Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:28:15 -0400
    From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Victor Gook pronunciation

    Hello again --

    Yes, Clif Martin is correct in that Victor Gook's last name rhymes with
    "Book." It's the same mistake some people make when pronouncing
    "Boogie-Woogie," at least if you're from central Illinois.

    Jan Bach

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:08:58 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: More on M&M

    On 5/28/05 6:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     I'm a little confused by this.  Is there also a legit aircheck of M&M
>     floating around from 1931 from aluminum or pre-grooved Victors?  Becuase
>     there IS a very short legit recording of Myrt and Marge on a little 3-inch
>     Durium cardboard record that Wrigley's mailed out as a promotion in 31 or
>     32,    I was going to suggest using it to compare the actresses' voices
>     with the circulating Episode 1 which, as you say, is 1946.

    No legitimate broadcast recordings are known of this series prior to
    1937, with the possible exception of the Durium disc -- I'm not sure if
    the material on this disc was clipped off the air from a broadcast, or if
    it was a specially-made studio recording.

    But the Durium disc does remind me of one more very simple clue for
    distinguishing original M&M from the 1946 version: Harlow Wilcox was the
    original 1931 "Myrt and Marge" announcer, and can be heard in that role
    on the Durium recording. The announcer for the 1946 series was Andre
    Baruch -- and there's no possibility of ever confusing those two voices.

>     By the way, it
>     would be possible for there to be a high quality recording of a program

    >from 1931 from a studio master-type recording, rather than an instantaneous

>     aircheck.

    True -- but I'd submit that to a trained ear a 1931-vintage shellac
    syndication pressing can be distinguished from a 1946 vinyl pressing
    without too much guesswork, especially if the transfer was sloppily done.

    Portions of the Vail-Damerel "Myrt and Marge" run *were* distributed on
    vinyl pressings made for extension spotting, but this practice didn't
    begin until the series shifted from a nighttime serial to a daytime soap
    opera. Thus the earliest such recordings would not date prior to 1937 --
    and only a few are known to exist.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:09:18 -0400
    From: JimInks@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A Question for Chuck Schaeden
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    A little over 20 years, I used to listen to Chuck Schaeden's radio broadcasts
    at night on WBBM, when the weather held out (I was and still am living in
    North Carolina).   I have this distinct memory of Chuck playing what amounted
    to
    be a Warner Borthers cartoon made for radio - sound effects and all.   All my
    animation expert friends says there was no such thing, but I'm sure of what I
    heard.   If Chuck is still on this list, can he tell me what it was that he
    played?   Was it a short series of broadcasts or demos for a potential
    series?
    I'd sure like to know what the deal was and what characters were on this show
    that I heard.   If I'm right, I'd like to pass the info on to those who might
    be interested, too.

    Thanks.

    -Jim Amash

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:10:35 -0400
    From: "Don and Kathy Dean" <dxk@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  More on "Festus"

    Ken Curtis was born Curtis Wain Gates on July 2, 1916 in Lamar,
    Colorado and died in his sleep of natural causes April 29, 1991 in
    Fresno, California. He grew up in Las Animas, Colorado where his
    father Dan Gates, was sherriff. As was the custom at the time, they
    lived above the jail and his mother, Nellie (Sneed) Gates cooked for
    the prisoner's. He once said he patterned "Festus" after a local
    character known as "Cactus Jack", who lived about 40 miles out in
    the cedar hills and made a living cutting fence posts for the farmers
    and ranchers. When he came to Las Animas he usually ended up
    drunk and in jail which gave Curtis plenty of opportunity to observe
    him.
    Ken started in show business as a singer and was a vocalist at times
    for Shep Fields Orchestra and later for the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra.
    He entered films in the 1940's and was in a number of "B" westerns.
    He had a starring role in a 1951 serial called Don Daredevil Rides Again
    (which I have). He had a featured role in The Searchers, a great John
    Wayne movie directed by Ken's father-in-law, John Ford. He had a great
    career but will probably be remembered most for his role as "Festus"
    on Gunsmoke. For a complete film biography, check him out on the
    [removed] website.

    Don Dean N8IOJ

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:45:52 -0400
    From: "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR cartoon

    Fans may like to take a look at the Monday 9th May strip of THEY'LL DO IT
    EVERY TIME

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:46:00 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-29 births/deaths

    May 29th births

    05-29-1874 - G. K. Chesterton - London, England - d. 6-14-1936
    creator: "Advs. of Father Brown"
    05-29-1883 - Dr. Allan Defoe - d. 6-2-1943
    Dionne quints doctor: "Canandian Holidays"; "Red Cross Emergency Appeal"
    05-29-1892 - Mario Chamlee - Los Angeles, CA - d. 11-13-1966
    singer: Tony "Tony and Gus"; "Arco Birthday Party"; "Swift Garden Party"
    05-29-1894 - Beatrice Lillie - Toronto, Canada - d. 1-20-1989
    commedienne: "Beatrice Lillie Show"
    05-29-1897 - Erich Wolfgang Korngold - Brno, Czechoslovakia - d. 11-29-1957
    "composer: "Contemporary Composers Concerts"; "Railroad Hour"
    05-29-1897 - F. Hugh Herbert - Vienna, Austria - d. 5-17-1958
    writer: "Meet Corliss Archer"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-29-1899 - Don Brodie - Cincinnati, OH - d. 1-8-2001
    grouch: "The Grouch Club"
    05-29-1903 - Bob Hope - Eltham, England (Raised: Cleveland, OH) - d. 7-27-2003
    actor, comedian: Taxpayer "Quick and the Dead"; "Bob Hope Show"
    05-29-1904 - Saxie Dowell - Raleigh, NC - d. 7-xx-1974
    saxophonist, vocalist: (Hal Kemp Orchestra) "Music from Hollywood"
    05-29-1909 - Dick Stabile - Newark, NJ - d. 9-25-1980
    bandleader: "Martin and Lewis Show"
    05-29-1909 - Mary Jane Higby - St. Louis, MO - d. 2-1-1986
    actress: Joan Davis "When a Girl Marries"; Nora Drake "This is Nora Drake"
    05-29-1911 - Vivi Janiss - NE - d. 9-7-1988
    actress: (Married to John Larch) Kit Calvert "Aunt Mary"
    05-29-1913 - Iris Adrian - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-17-1994
    actress: Abbott and Costello Show"
    05-29-1914 - Stacy Keach, Sr. - Chicago, IL (Raised: Milwaukee, WI) - d.
    2-13-2003
    producer-director: "Tales of the Texas Rangers"
    05-29-1917 - John F. Kennedy - Brookline, MA - d. 11-22-1963
    [removed] president: "CBS Radio Workshop"; "Kennedy-Nixon Debates"; "American Forum
    of the Air"
    05-29-1918 - Herb Shriner - Toledo, OH - d. 2-24-1970
    comedian: "Camel Comedy Caravan"; "Herb Shriner Time"
    05-29-1924 - Bob Corley - Macon, GA - d. 11-18-1971
    actor: Beulah "Beulah"
    05-29-1936 - Arlene McQuade - NYC
    actress: Rosalie Goldberg "The Goldbergs"

    May 29th deaths

    02-15-1882 - John Barrymore - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-29-1942
    actor: (The Great Profile) "Streamlined Shakespeare"; "Rudy Vallee Show"
    03-02-1902 - Moe Berg - NYC - d. 5-29-1972
    major league baseball player, world war 2 spy: "Information, Please"
    03-21-1912 - Henry Gibson - NYC - d. 5-29-2003
    director, writer: "Burns and Allen"; "Junior Miss"
    04-09-1892 - Mary Pickford - Toronto, Canada - d. 5-29-1979
    actress: "Mary Pickford Dramas"; "Parties at Pickfair"
    05-10-1911 - Lee Sullivan - NYC - d. 5-29-1981
    singer: "Vest Pocket Varieties"; "Serenade to America"
    06-19-1865 - May Whitty - Liverpool, England - d. 5-29-1948
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-30-1901 - John Gunther - Chicago, IL - d. 5-29-1970
    writer: "Information, Please";"America's Town Meeting of the Air"; "Royal
    Gelatin Hour"
    10-04-1897 - Frederick Chase Taylor - Buffalo, NY - d. 5-29-1950
    comedian: Lemuel Q. Stoopnagel "Duffy's Tavern, Quixie Doodles, Stoopnagel
    and Budd"
    10-29-1891 - Fanny Brice - NYC - d. 5-29-1951
    comedienne: Baby Snooks Higgins, "Baby Snooks"
    11-18-1836 - William S. Gilbert - London, England - d. 5-29-1911
    composer: (Gilbert and Sullivan) "The Railroad Hour"
    11-19-1919 - George Fenneman - Peking, China - d. 5-29-1997
    announcer, actor: "You Bet Your Life"; "Dragnet"; Buzz "I Fly Anything"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:46:44 -0400
    From: HRRMIKES@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Buka to join Seattle cast
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    The Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound have just announced that Donald Buka
    will join their already superb cast on June 24 -25 in Seattle.   "Donald did
    so
    much on radio, television and in film," stated Mike Sprague of REPS.   "We're
    so pleased that he is coming." Buka will join Bob Hastings in a re-creation of
    X Minus One, on which both of them worked, and he will have key roles in other
    parts of The REPS Radio Showcase convention.
    Hal Stone, Rosemary Rice and Hastings will be doing their madcap thing in
    Archie Andrews, and the club will be auctioning off original Archie disks with
    their autographs.
    >From   Vic and Sade with Bill Idelson to The Adventures of Frank Race, with
    Gil Stratton, Jr., Mark Donovan with little "Romance" thrown in, the program
    will be a fun one.   Add to these, new time syndicated radio from Jim French
    in
    his Imagination Theater and Frank Buxton leading a troop of local professional
    actors in Improv Radio.
    Other OTR folks will include Anne Whitfield Phillips, Ray Erlenborn, Dick
    Beals, Alice Backes and Art Gilmore (announcing Frank Race via remote.)
    Esther
    Geddes McVey and Larry Albert will also be featured.
    REPS promises a full return to their history of honoring honorary members and
    of welcoming guests in a warm, friendly manner.    Details can be obtained on
    the club's website   ([removed])   or by contacting Mike Sprague at
    (hrrmikes@[removed])

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 16:20:58 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dunning's Book

    In the most recent issue of the magazine "American Heritage" came
    this response to an article that had previously appeared listing the
    ten greatest books on American history. Bill Abbott from Westport,
    Connecticut had this great reply.

    "Your issue was an excellent and very comprehensive summary, except
    for the fact that there was no mention of the medium that shaped
    generations from 1925 to 1965, radio. This is easily rectified. John
    Dunnings's "On the Air: The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio, published
    in 1998 by Oxford University Press in New York, is a stunning work of
    history that deserved a Pulitzer Prize. Dunning is a brilliant
    writer. He left nothing out in its 820 pages, from "A&P Gypsies" to
    "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar." His essays on Bob Hope, Eddie Cantor,
    Bing Crosby, Jack Benny, Fred Allen, and soaps like "One Man's
    Family" are invaluable. His extensive coverage of radio newscasters
    and commentators during those years cannot be found anywhere else.
    Thanks for listening."

    All that I can add, is "AMEN!"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 16:21:17 -0400
    From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Eddie Albert on radio

    I was reading the late Eddie Albert's obit from the [removed] Times, and it
    mentions that he did have some exposure on radio early in his show biz
    career, first on local radio after he left the University of Minnesota:

    "Albert, who also sang at amateur nights, left the university in his junior
    year and joined a musical trio that performed on a local radio station.
    After the announcers kept referring to him on the air as Eddie Hamburger, he
    dropped Heimberger and adopted his middle name for his last.

    The singing trio performed in Chicago, St. Louis and Cincinnati, but broke
    up after playing small clubs in New York. Albert eventually teamed with a
    singer named Grace Bradt and they spent a year as the singing stars of "The
    Honeymooners," an NBC morning radio show."

    Anybody know for sure the date/year this program was on the air?  It was
    interesting to learn of this and his other TV experiences.  I also learned
    that before "Green Acres", Eddie Albert turned down "My Three Sons" and "Mr.
    Ed" while concentrating on his movie career.

    Jim Hilliker

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