Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #146
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Date: 4/8/2003 9:03 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 146
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Radio lineup                          [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Insidious Elizabeth                   [ Jimmyfuturity@[removed] ]
      Old magazines that covered radio      [ Larry Jordan <midtod@[removed]; ]
      MP3 at Penny's                        [ "Nemesis@[removed]" <nemesis@[removed] ]
      Re: George Reeves' birthday           [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      ARTHUR MILLER, MELVYN DOUGLAS, NORMA  [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Re: A Bit More on Maurice S. Wetzel   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Struts and Frets                      [ Ga6string@[removed] ]
      Official Penny Singleton / Blondie S  [ "Bill and Sue-On Hillman" <hillmans ]
      mp3 player                            [ knight555@[removed] ]
      Molly/Allen The Belmont               [ "steven kostelecky" <skostelecky@ho ]
      CUNY panel--this Wednesday afternoon  [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Re: "Holy Grail"                      [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
      BBC Jane Eyre and Bette Davis         [ GREGORY M PRZYWARA <gmprzywara@stud ]
      April 8th Birth Dates                 [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Bob Bailey                            [ JayHick@[removed] ]
      Stretch Snodgrass                     [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      Today in radio history 4/8            [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      CBC April Fools                       [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:27:49 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio lineup

    In the back of the various editions of "The Complete Directory to Prime Time
    Network TV Shows" there are grids showing the lineup on the various networks
    for each season.  I've found this particularly helpful at times.  For
    example, people sometimes attribute Jack Benny's departure from television to
    be due to being up against Bonanza.  However, a quick check on the grid
    revealed he was opposite Bonanza in the 1961-62 season, but Jack didn't leave
    the air until 1965.  Neener neener neener.

    Has anyone done a similar grid for radio?  I've got a book entitled "A
    Thirty-Year History of Radio Programs:  1926-1956" that's got most of the
    listings, networks, times, etc.  Seems like it would be a relatively easy and
    handy thing to do.  Perhaps a bit dicey when it comes to the time differences
    (Jack was on at 4:00 *and* 7:00 Pacific Time at [removed]), and need a little
    cross-referencing with Radio Digest and other resources.  But eminently
    do-able.

    [removed] this grid exist for radio?  Or have I over-simplified it?

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:27:57 -0400
    From: Jimmyfuturity@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Insidious Elizabeth
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    Hey, you guys can cheer and laugh this off for all you like, but I think
    Elizabeth's joke to devoted OTR fans in poor, poor taste.  Good thing she is
    not from the South.  James Faulkner

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:28:07 -0400
    From: Larry Jordan <midtod@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Old magazines that covered radio

    I know there were magazines published that specifically covered radio,
    and later radio/TV personalities and schedules. I seem to recall one was
    named "Radio/TV Mirror." I'm sure there were others. I am wondering if
    somebody can give me a list of magazines like this for the period of
    roughly 1940 to 1960. I would be interested in tracking some of these
    down. Thanks!  Larry Jordan

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:38:09 -0400
    From: "Nemesis@[removed]" <nemesis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  MP3 at Penny's

    I found the Digitech MP3/CD player online at JC Penny's with QA680-0366B as
    the catalog number.  It's $[removed] ($10) more than the outlet price.  I sent
    the link to Stephen and he confirmed it's the same player he likes so much.
    And it comes in colors!  I called the order line to check on the [removed]
    catalog number and it's no longer available.  According to the operator,
    "There's lots of them" still available either on-line or by phone order.
    Here's the link to the page (hope it comes through the text formatting
    here):

    [removed];CatID=14477&CatTyp=DEP&GrpTyp=PRD&ItemID=05d719f

    Linda T.

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:39:24 -0400
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: George Reeves' birthday

    Ron Sayles wrote:

>     You know the drill, if you were born on the 6th of April you share your
>     birthday with:

>     04-06-1914 - George Reeves - Ashland, KY - d. 6-16-1959

    'Fraid not - Reeves, whose birth name was George Keefer Brewer, was born in
    Woolstock Iowa on January 5, 1914.  His parents divorced when George was a
    babe in arms, after which mother and son went to Ashland to live with
    relatives.  George did spend some of his childhood there, until - I'm not
    sure which came first - his mother married Frank Bessolo and they moved to
    Pasadena CA.

    Reeves told casting agents for Selznick Studios that he was born in Ashland,
    to improve his chances of being cast in "Gone With the Wind."  Not the first
    time an actor ever lied to get the job.

    Michael

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:39:41 -0400
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  ARTHUR MILLER, MELVYN DOUGLAS, NORMAN CORWIN
     (part II)--where are their papers?

>     >From time to time, I'm identifying the locations of the papers of various

    OTR writers and actors:

    For starters: Within the last six months Arthur Miller decided to sell
    (most likely--although they may have been donated-- I'm not sure) his
    papers to the University of Texas in Austin. A bookstore owner in New
    York City has been helping Miller to organizethem prior to their shipment
    to Texas.   Miller started his career writing for radio, for the
    Cavalcade of America and other shows including the wartime series, "The
    Doctor Fights." His friend Norman Rosten, the late poet laureate of
    Brooklyn who preceded Miller working for The Cavalcade, put in a good
    word for him and paved Miller's way. Poet laureate of Brooklyn?  Yes
    indeed. Youse guys should all appreciate poetry.

    Melvyn Douglas' are at Boston University. among other shows, Douglas can
    be heard on one of the segments of the short World War II series "Dear
    Adolf" series produced on NBC.

    In a previous installment of "Where are their papers?" I mentioned that
    Norman Corwin's papers are in California.  They are.  But he also donated
    some of them to Boston University's Special Collections Library.

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:40:10 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: A Bit More on Maurice S. Wetzel

    I wrote:

>     So, that's where I stand at the moment - the trail's gone cold.

    In reviewing this post, I realized I left out one bit of information
    that, in retrospect, is *extremely* intriguing:

    As of 1939, Maurice S. Wetzel was the Chicago manager of the National
    Broadcasting Company's Electrical Transcription Division (later known as
    the Radio-Recording Division.)

    This certainly suggests that Wetzel maintained his strong interest in
    broadcast recordings thru the 1930s, and that in fact such recordings
    became the focus of his career. Whether he continued to record on his own
    as a hobby is something we have no way of knowing at this point, but it
    does raise further interesting possibilities.

    Question for Mike Biel -- when you were reviewing the WMAQ/NBC collection
    at Northwestern, did you run across any information on Wetzel's
    activities? Or maybe even run across Wetzel himself - if he was still
    alive in the 1970s he would have made an excellent interview subject! (I
    don't recall offhand if his name turned up in your dissertation.)

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:40:26 -0400
    From: Ga6string@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Struts and Frets

    Allow me to please echo Randy Miller's comments regarding Harry Bartell's
    "Struts and Frets" postings. I enjoyed them immensely, and Randy really
    summed up my sentiments well. Mr. Bartell, if you ever change your mind, or
    just want to through out some additional ideas less formally, please know
    that the expression of your unique perspectives and experiences is always a
    welcome contribution to the group.
    Thank you very much.
    Bryan Powell

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:55:28 -0400
    From: "Bill and Sue-On Hillman" <hillmans@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Official Penny Singleton / Blondie Site
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    We have just launched the new
    Official Penny Singleton / Blondie Site
    Bio & Pics
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    Filmography & OTR Info
    [removed]
    Penny's Gallery: Stills ~ Lobby Cards ~
    Pics ~ Collectibles  ~ Memorabilia ~ Comic Art ~ Sound Files
    [removed]
    Coming Soon: Penny's Personal Anecdotes

    Bill Hillman
    Bill and Sue-On Hillman Eclectic Studio
    [removed]~hillmans

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 12:48:48 -0400
    From: knight555@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  mp3 player

    Regarding the post for the mp3 player at JC penney. My store doesn't carry
    it, but i did order one online for [removed] which is still a great price
    considering i paid around $100 for my Rio (which my son "borrowed"). with
    shipping etc it came to around $36, so thanks for the post. Maybe it won't
    eat batteries as fast as the Rio. I am anxiously awaiting it's arrival.  I
    just went to the JCP website and put it in the search engine.  Thanks
    again.  MJS

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 14:22:18 -0400
    From: "steven kostelecky" <skostelecky@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Molly/Allen The Belmont

    Hey Everyone,
    One last mention of the Molly absence: seems as though nobody has primary
    source info on her absence beyond the granddaughter's interview. Sounds like
    anxiety attacks or "mike fright." No alcohol involved. Is that where we
    stand?
    The other thing I have concerns the "Belmont On The Air" Fred Allen episode.
    Was this done for a family? Was he hired to come up with something or were
    they family friends? Was it recorded on a dictabelt or some other home
    recording device? The date I have is 1948 but it sounds earlier, though the
    quality of my copy may just make it sound older.
    Seems like this may have been covered before and, if so, my apologies.
    I'm just about to make my annual donation to this list and hope everyone
    else is considering the same. It sure makes my day.
    Best,
    Nussbaum

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:18:17 -0400
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  CUNY panel--this Wednesday afternoon

    I forgot to identify the address of the CUNY Graduate Center where the
    OTR panel discussion will take place this Wednesday afternoon (April 9)
    1:30-3:30 PM (Thank you Derek Tague for pointing this out to me) It is
    365 Fifth Avenue at 34th Street in Manhattan.

    Again, the panel will  consist of  ARTHUR ANDERSON, MASON ADAMS, TERI
    KEANE, and DONALD BUKA. While talking to Mr. Buka last night, I learned
    that along with Art Carney, Jackson Beck, Larry Haines etc. he
    participated in broadcasts of the great World War II era show "The Man
    Behind the Gun." He also identified Homer Fickett, who directed
    productions of The Cavalcade of America as one of his favorite directors.

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:18:39 -0400
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: "Holy Grail"
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     What is your "holy grail" of OTR?

    I've heard a tantalizing story that EVERY radio program ever broadcast over
    WSM, Nashville was recorded on disks and stored at the transmitter site.

    Then somebody either took them or tossed them.

    Gad! EVERY Grand Ole Opry from 1925 on? That would be MY Holy Grail!!
    (But I'd settle for ALL Vic & Sades and/or ALL Pays To be Ignorants.)

    Bill Knowlton

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:18:42 -0400
    From: GREGORY M PRZYWARA <gmprzywara@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  BBC Jane Eyre and Bette Davis

    This is a question for anyone who those knowledgable about BBC radio
    miniseries:
    I was recently listening to the 5-part serial version of "Jane Eyre" and at
    the end the announcer says it was produced by Bette Davis. Is this the
    Hollywood actress or a lesser-known namesake?

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:18:45 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  April 8th Birth Dates

    If you were born on the 8th of April, you share your birthday with:

    04-08-1881 - Arthur Adams
    04-08-1882 - Lulu McConnell - Kansas City, MO - d. 10-9-1962
    04-08-1887 - Walter Connolly - Cincinnati, OH
    04-08-1900 - Bert "Mad Russian" Gordon - NYC - d. 11-30-1974
    04-08-1903 - Ilka Chase - NYC - d. 2-15-1978
    04-08-1918 - Page Gilman - San Francisco, CA
    04-08-1926 - Shecky Greene - Chicago, IL
    04-08-1928 - John Gavin - Los Angeles, CA

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Make your day, listen to an Olde Tyme Radio Program

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:53:44 -0400
    From: JayHick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bob Bailey

    I received a letter from John Hart (not the actor), 9821 SE Dundee Dr.,
    Portland, OR 97266 (does not have a computer).  He is looking for 1.  a short
    bio of Bob Bailey; 2.  If any of his missing shows of the 5-part YTJD are
    available.  (I thought they all were).  He is missing Apr 2-6, 56 (Part 2);
    Apr 23-27, 56 (Part 4); Jul 30-Aug 3, 56  (Part 5); Aug 23-31, 56 (Part 3 of
    7-part story; Sep 17-21, 56 (Portion of Part 2);  Let me know also if these
    are available.  Thank you.  Please respond to John directly.  Jay

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:54:01 -0400
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Stretch Snodgrass

    I's like to do a story/article on Leonard Smith who
    played Stretch Snodgrass on Our Miss Brooks.  So far
    my research is not going well.  Because his name is
    a common one (Leonard Smith) I never know if I have
    the correct person.  Can any one lend me a hand or
    point me in the right direction?  Dose any one happen
    to know his middle name, that might help?   Any help
    on or off line would be greatly appreciated!!

    Lynn Wagar

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:34:03 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history 4/8

       From Those Were the Days --

    1941 - Earle Graser, the eight-year voice of the The Lone Ranger, died
    in an auto accident. Brace Beemer, previously the show's announcer, took
    over the title role.

       Joe

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 18:29:04 -0400
    From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  CBC April Fools

    Hello All,

    Over the weekend I discovered a a page of radio and TV April Fool stunts
    done on the CBC over the past 25 years or so available for download on the
    CBC's website at:

    [removed]

    Nothing specifically OTR related, but still a lot of fun.  Also, mention has
    been made of the NPR AF piece about the shellac disks.  I missed that, but I
    remember a really funny "talking dog" AF piece on All Things Considered a
    year or two ago.  So public radio people do have a sense of humor.

    George

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