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Date: 11/27/2003 6:45 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 425
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Kennedy: I heard it [removed]           [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
      Ramdomly Remissed                     [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      ideas for new books                   [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Chuck Schaden's new book, Speaking o  [ howard blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Walter Tetley books are in!           [ benohmart@[removed] ]
      Thanksgiving Day births/deaths        [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      The Affairs of Peter Salem            [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      The Affairs of Peter Salem            [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Dave Garroway request                 [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      OTR Trivia                            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Groucho on radio                      [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Dumbo's crows                         [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Today in radio history                [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Chuck Schaden on WGN Friday           [ "Tim Newport" <newport@[removed]; ]
      Kid's OTR Story of a Bear             [ Gord Lepsenyi <lepseg@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:17:41 -0500
    From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kennedy: I heard it [removed]

    I was home on leave from the Army. I was hitch-hiking from my "foster" home
    to my old high school, where I hoped to meet some of my favorite teachers,
    and surprise my younger brother.
    The school nurse stopped for me. When I got into her car, I banged my knee
    on the lower part of the Ford's "wrap-around" windshield. The nurse
    diagnosed the injury as a "contusion", a term that stuck in my mind because
    of what happened next:
    The car radio reported that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas; his
    condition was unknown. The governor of Texas had also been shot.
    Unconfirmed rumors said that Vice-President Johnson had been wounded.
    We drove to the school. The Principal had called a special Assembly, where
    he told all the students that the President had been killed; we all
    listened to the piped-in radio reports that described how the military had
    been put on alert, etc. He dismissed school early for the day.
    I didn't get to see my brother that day; things were too chaotic.
    I spent the rest of my leave in front of the television, trying to make
    sense of what was going on.
    Then I went back to work in the Army, where I was TOLD what was going on:
    Follow orders; do your job.

    Herb Harrison

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:18:18 -0500
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ramdomly  Remissed
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    Happy Thanksgiving, Gang:

        First off, I'd like to thank all you subscibers and post-ers who picked
    up on my question about what was the single greatest year during the Golden
    Age of Radio. The
    McLeod-ian-led concensus seems to agree that it's 1938. I can abide by that.
    But are there any adherents partial to some other year? Just checking.
        In the same posting--one of my occasional multi-part "Random Follow-Up
    Thoughts"--I had made mention of the within-a-ten-day-period anniversaries of
    the birth and death of song satirist Allan Sherman, asking if anybody knew if
    he had any OTR [removed] the time forgetting to post the one
    connection I knew of.
        When I met "Jack Benny Show" singer Larry Stevens at the NJ FOTR
    convention in 1998, Larry had told me that he was in the same high school
    graduating class as both Ricardo [removed] Allan Sherman.
        Wishing everybody out there in the ether a very joyous and happy
    Thanksgiving filled with "a gift of laughter."

    Always--

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:36:01 -0500
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  ideas for new books

    Hi everybody,

    I was wondering what book OTR topics  would people enjoy reading in the
    future?  A friend mention for example that he would like to see a book on
    Lights Out.  I would like to have a larger  volume done on Radio stars.  A
    running plot summary on children stories lines.  I imagine other people on
    this list will have other ideas.  Take care and happy Thanks Giving,

    Walden Hughes

     bio

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:37:59 -0500
    From: howard blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Chuck Schaden's new book, Speaking of Radio

    I'd like to put in a word of endorsement for Chuck Schaden's new book,
    Speaking of Radio.  I used at least a couple of taped interviews that
    Chuck did years ago, of a couple of radio's principals [removed] Archer
    Oboler.  Chuck has done some of the very best interviews that I've heard
    pertaining to old time radio; his questions  were probing, thoughtful and
    sensitive.  Saying things like this about Chuck and his work is like
    saying Bob Hope was funny and Mount Everest is tall.

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:54:09 -0500
    From: benohmart@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Walter Tetley books are in!

    Thanks to everyone who has purchased the new Walter Tetley book (as far back
    as 4
    months ago!). Well, the books came in today, so between stuffing myself with
    stuffing
    and turkey, I'll be sending out your books over the next few days. They do
    look great.
    The pictures alone are worth the price of admission. So - enjoy! And happy
    hollardays!

    Ben Ohmart

    For Corn's Sake: The Walter Tetley biography
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:01:08 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Thanksgiving Day births/deaths

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING !!

    Thanksgiving Day births

    11-27-1890 - Gladys Rice - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-7-1983
    singer: "Roxy"s Gang"; "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Voice of Firestone"
    11-27-1902 - J. Scott Smart - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-15-1960
    actor: Senator Bloat "Fred Allen Show"; Brad Runyon "Fat Man"
    11-27-1908 - Mary Livingston - Seattle, WA - d. 6-30-1983
    comedienne: (wife of Jack Benny) "Jack Benny Program"
    11-27-1925 - Marshall Thompson - Peoria, IL - d. 5-18-1992
    actor: "Free World Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-16-1892 - Cameron Prud"homme - Auburn, CA - d. 11-27-1967
    actor: Governor Bradley "Little Herman"; David Harum "David Harum"

    Thanksgiving Day deaths

    02-05-1906 - John Carradine - Greenwich Village, NY - d. 11-27-1988
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-16-1892 - Cameron Prud"homme - Auburn, CA - d. 11-27-1967
    actor: Governor Bradley "Little Herman"; David Harum "David Harum"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:01:52 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Affairs of Peter Salem

    Several digests ago, Jack French announced that a 5 minute clip of "The
    Affairs of Peter Salem" was recently discovered.

    Note: This is the only extant copy of that series available.
    Warning: geek-speak ahead (sorry about that, but you need to know this).

    Jack mentioned that I would be providing a method to download the file at
    my web site. That is ready for anyone who wants to get an electronic copy
    instead of ordering a copy through Jack. I have provided two possible
    scenarios to get the copy. One is to download the raw wave file exactly as
    is. The copy as provided has a low volume in the beginning and a tiny bit
    of hum. The file, however, is over 27megs in size and will really require a
    high-speed access to download. With a connection like a cable access, it
    will take about 3-5 minutes to download it.

    [removed] also cleaned a copy of the file up a bit and encoded it into a
    high-bit rate mp3 file for those who have slightly slower connections. The
    mp3 version is a little smaller but still will take some time for slower
    connections. If you use a dial-up, then you'd best order it from Jack
    unless you have lots of time to let your computer download the file.

    There is also a little other information on the series at the site. The
    address is:

    [removed]

    Happy downloading!

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:05:04 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Affairs of Peter Salem

    Several digests ago, Jack French announced that a 5 minute clip of "The
    Affairs of Peter Salem" was recently discovered.

    Note: This is the only extant copy of that series available.
    Warning: geek-speak ahead (sorry about that, but you need to know this).

    Jack mentioned that I would be providing a method to download the file at
    my web site. That is ready for anyone who wants to get an electronic copy
    instead of ordering a copy through Jack. I have provided two possible
    scenarios to get the copy. One is to download the raw wave file exactly as
    is. The copy as provided has a low volume in the beginning and a tiny bit
    of hum. The file, however, is over 27megs in size and will really require a
    high-speed access to download. With a connection like a cable access, it
    will take about 3-5 minutes to download it.

    [removed] also cleaned a copy of the file up a bit and encoded it into a
    high-bit rate mp3 file for those who have slightly slower connections. The
    mp3 version is a little smaller but still will take some time for slower
    connections. If you use a dial-up, then you'd best order it from Jack
    unless you have lots of time to let your computer download the file.

    There is also a little other information on the series at the site. The
    address is:

    [removed]

    Happy downloading!

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:05:18 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dave Garroway request

    Does anyone know if any of Dave Garroway's "Dial Dave Garroway" radio shows
    are commercially available?  I have a friend who is specifically looking for
    the 1954 broadcast in which Garroway interviews comic strip artist Walt Kelly
    of "Pogo" fame.  Thanks in advance.

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:06:11 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Trivia

    Came across some interesting OTR trivia (sources vary from 1930s issues of
    Time Magazine to encyclopedias).  Thought this might start some interesting
    discussions.

    "Auld Lang Syne" was Guy Lombardo's theme song, replacing his former theme
    "Comin' Thru The Rye."  "Auld Lang Syne" was first broadcast from the
    Roosevelt Grill in New York in 1929.  Now heard every New Year's Eve from
    the Waldorf-Astoria.

    AUNT JEMIMA was (and still is) the brand name for a popular syrup and
    pancake mix.  Nancy Green was the original Aunt Jemima, at the Chicago
    World's Exposition of 1893.  There was also a radio series of AUNT JEMIMA
    starring Harriette Widmer.

    Cowboy star Gene Autry was one of the owners of the Amerian-League CA
    Angels.  He was also the owner of the Golden West Radio Network.

    The Bulova Watch Company was the sponsor of the first TV commercial in [removed]
    History.  The date was July 1, 1941 at a cost of $[removed]

    Actor Fred McMurray was used as the model for the face of the comic book
    CAPTAIN MARVEL.

    BWANA DEVIL was the first full-length 3D color movie, officially released
    November 27, 1952.  It starred future Elliott Ness actor Robert Stack and
    was written and directed by radio's pioneer writer Arch Oboler.  (This fact
    I knew but if anyone wants to read a great story about the race to have this
    movie in the theaters before Warner Bros. HOUSE OF WAX, check out the
    interview with Andre DeToth in one of the back issues of FILMFAX Magazine,
    and of William Castle's autobiography).

    Anyone care to elaborate or add some other fun facts about these subjects?
    (I'd love to know who sponsored the first radio commercial in the [removed])

    Martin

    by service area.)

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    Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:05:30 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Groucho on radio

>     Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:16:49 -0500
>     From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];

>     1932 - Groucho Marx performed on radio for the first time.

    Anyone know what show this was?

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:06:11 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dumbo's crows

>     Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:38:09 -0500
>     From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];

>     But there's really no practical way to delete or censor the number
>     itself in modern showings, since the crows contribute an essential plot
>     point -- it is they provide the bogus "magic feather" which convinces
>     the reluctant elephant that he is capable of flight.

    On the same subject, I've wondered for some time about a rather long
    digression into a
    Black minstrel show in the Marx Brothers movie "A Day at the Races."  I'm not
    sure why it
    was done in the first place, since it has nothing to do with the plot, and it
    slows up the
    action.  I suppose if the movie itself were more popular, there would be
    protests about it.

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    Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:06:47 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Today in radio history

>     Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:16:49 -0500
>     From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];

>     1945 - The program, Bride and Groom, debuted on the NBC Blue network. It
>     is estimated that 1,000 newly-wed couples were interviewed on the program
>     before it left the airwaves in 1950.

    I remember a version of this as a daytime show on weekday afternoons on NBC-TV in the
    summer of 1957.  Alex MacNeal's =Total Television= reports that it was on CBS from 15
    January 1951 to 9 October 1953 and on NBC from 7 December 1953 to 27 August 1954 and
    then returned on NBC from 1 July 1957 to 10 January 1958.  On the TV version, they didn't
    just interview the couples, they televised the actual wedding ceremony.

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    Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:46:48 -0500
    From: "Tim Newport" <newport@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Chuck Schaden on WGN Friday
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    On Friday Milt Rosenberg's Extension 720 radio program from WGN in Chicago
    will be devoted to Old Time Radio. His guest will be Chuck Schaden who will be
    discussing his new book. WGN is available on line at [removed]  Dr.
    Rosenberg's program is on from 9pm to 11pm central [removed] a number of his
    programs become available in his extensive archives at
    [removed].
    Tim Newport

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    Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:30:55 -0500
    From: Gord Lepsenyi <lepseg@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kid's OTR Story of a Bear
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    Back in the '50s, one of the most enjoyable kids stories on radio was one
    called "The Bear That Wasn't". It's a story of a bear who goes into
    hibernation in a cave in the forest and when he wakes up in the spring, he
    finds himself in the middle of a factory that has been built around him. He
    is taken to task for being "....a silly man who needs a shave and wears a fur
    coat" and made to work in the factory.
    Does anyone know where one might get a copy of this?
    Thanks,
    Gord

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