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Date: 2/17/2011 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2011 : Issue 30
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Pioneers of Television (and radio!)   [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Gunsmoke                              [ "Belpedio, Dr. James" <[removed] ]
      Corwin on Brown                       [ "Bob C" <rmcblc@[removed]; ]
      The Aldrich Family                    [ "danhughes@[removed]" <danhughes@jun ]
      Re: Wyllis Cooper's "Rocket Ship"     [ Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed] ]
      RE: "The Shadow" vs "Sherlock Holmes  [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
      Research on OTR, etc.                 [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      The New Hotel - Gunsmoke              [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:56:05 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Pioneers of Television (and radio!)

    If anyone has been catching the PBS mini-series, PIONEERS OF TELEVISION, they
    might have been surprised to see that the radio program DRAGNET was
    "recreated" with actors before the microphone. The producers were not
    attempting to make the actors look like Jack Webb, Virginia Gregg, etc. and I
    understand that. But the least they could have done was to have the actors
    listen to a few episodes. The guy playing the role of George Fenneman, "read"
    his lines from the script. Had he heard a few radio broadcasts and then
    attempted to mimic Fenneman's style, it would have came off better.
    Dismissing the mistakes they made and I caught (like saying there were 152
    episodes of THE TWILIGHT ZONE when they should have said 156), it's a good
    documentary series. They explored radio more than once such as the MY
    FAVORITE HUSBAND series as the precursor of I LOVE LUCY, and Stan Freeberg is
    interviewed about his DRAGNET parody.
    MG

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    Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:56:58 -0500
    From: "Belpedio, Dr. James" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Gunsmoke

    At some point in the long run of Gunsmoke shows, the cast developed a  weekly
    rehearsal in which they ad libbed a free wheeling version of the script with
    graphic language, sexual references and creative sound effects. I don't know
    if this was the "dress rehearsal" or one of the others. One or more of these
    recordings have found their way into the collections of Gunsmoke shows. I'm
    sure that some of the Gunsmoke experts out there will know more about this
    phenomenon. I have one of these items. I preseum that there are more out
    there. On my recording, the insertions seem contrived and the laughter seems
    forced and unnatural.

    James R belpedio
    Becker College
    Worcester, MA

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    Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:57:06 -0500
    From: "Bob C" <rmcblc@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Corwin on Brown

    I came across "Norman Corwin's Letters," a book published in 1994
    at the Goodwill store the other day, containing selected letters
    from 1927 through February of 1994. I have gone through the era
    of the CBS Radio Mystery Theater twice now and unless I still
    managed to overlook it, I saw no communications to anyone re
    Himan Brown's CBSRMT. Does anyone know if these two got along ...
    were there any comments by Corwin at the time about CBSRMT, such
    as wishing Brown "good luck, but you're spitting against the
    wind" or that upon his listening, Corwin might have considered
    the shows rather insipid, [removed]

    Bob Cockrum

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    Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:57:26 -0500
    From: "danhughes@[removed]" <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Aldrich Family
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    In April 1940, The Aldrich Family was being aired on Tuesday nights.  So  we
    can immediately eliminate an airdate of April 24, because that was a
    Wednesday. ---Dan, [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:18:50 -0500
    From: Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Wyllis Cooper's "Rocket Ship"

    R. R. King asked whether I--or anyone else--had had an opportunity to listen
    to the recording of Wyllis Cooper's "Rocket Ship" episode of the 1945 LIGHTS
    OUT series. This episode is not in circulation, but there's supposedly a copy
    at the Library of [removed], I've not had an opportunity to hear this
    recording. The last time I was at the LOC was two years ago, and that was
    strictly to do paper research in the NBC logbooks. Unfortunately, I've had no
    travelling money since then. I'm not even sure where the LOC OTR recordings
    are currently being held. Seems like a while back, I read something which led
    me to believe that they were stored in some storage/archival center somewhere
    in the wilds of Virginia. Anybody know anything more about this?Mike Ogden

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    Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:37:55 -0500
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE: "The Shadow" vs "Sherlock Holmes"

    The Baker Street Irregulars only appear in a couple of the original Homles
    stories one being "The Sign of Four." Holmes did not have a group of helpers
    per se. He did in his adventures at certain times use the specialized
    knowledge of an individual to help in solving the problem, in "The Three
    Gables" "The Illustrious Client", he was currently working on. However for
    the most part he would root out the information he needed  on his own or
    through Watson's efforts. Now of course I'm talking about the litery Holmes
    not the creation from the radio shows of the Golden Age who ran in Moriarty
    at every turn.

     I'm afraid I see very little similarity between the Shadow and Holmes
    outside of the fact that they were men on the side of the law.
    That's just my view.
    Larry

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    Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:39:35 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Research on OTR, etc.

    As a librarian at Sangamon State University (Springfield, IL), one evening I
    was on the "Get help here" desk.  A question came from a student about a
    historical figure, name, birth and death dates, etc.  We spent the better
    part of an evening checking all the sources we had.  Each one was a highly
    regarded source such as Dictionary of American Biography, etc.  All but one
    of these sources agreed on the birth place and birth date, except one.  The
    student recorded all the citations (probably about 6 or 8 of them) and put
    them in his paper.  He left it to his professor to sort out the information.
    I wish I had followed up on the student, comments from his professor, etc.

    So, one source, as Martin Grams has said, is not enough.  Just copying
    someone else's information and citations is only doing part of the job.
    Thanks, Martin, for reminding us!

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    Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:38:01 -0500
    From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The New Hotel - Gunsmoke

    It's a rehearsal of the show and a very funny one at that.

    Fred
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