Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #180
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 5/28/2004 8:21 AM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 180
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: [removed]                            [ zbob@[removed] ]
      [removed]                                [ littlejc2@[removed] ]
      a nice article on radio transcriptio  [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      [removed]                                [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      The girl in the [removed]            [ <welsa@[removed]; ]
      [removed] explanation                    [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Memorial Weekend with Walden Hughes   [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
      Re: About preserving cds              [ "barry" <barry@[removed]; ]
      Re: MP3 player for walking            [ "barry" <barry@[removed]; ]
      Radio Memories                        [ "[removed] Lindsey" <lindse@cox-internet ]
      Re: FOB                               [ Art Chimes <achimes@[removed]; ]
      5-28 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      1962 Indianapolis 500                 [ "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed]; ]
      [removed]                                [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
      WWII Music                            [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
      Re: Burnt Cork                        [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
      Re: [removed]                           [ Lanny Gilbert <morsefan1@[removed]; ]
      Ron's 20:1 OTR Trading Post Updated   [ "Ron Vanover" <rvanover@[removed] ]
      Temple [removed], etc. etc. / anyone have   [ "Tim Hughes" <rekokut@[removed]; ]
      Fess Parker                           [ seandd@[removed] ]

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:56:46 -0400
    From: zbob@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: [removed]

    Froggieville asks about [removed]  :    Freight On  Board   meaning that the
    price for an item that has to be shipped includes the cost of getting the
    item to the (usually) railway station, but does not include the cost of
    shipping the item to the buyer.

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:51:02 -0400
    From: littlejc2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed]

    Hi, All,

    [removed]  "Franks on the Barrelhead" as Kingfish once said to Andy as he tried
    to sell Andy an old clunker.

    Actually it means "Free on Board," a trade and legal term wherein a seller is
    obligated to deliver goods to a carrier designated by the purchaser.  It is
    complicated and requires either a law degree or much experience in long
    distance buying and selling to fully understand.

    Chester L.

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:51:50 -0400
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  a nice article on radio transcriptions, ca.
     1932

    [removed]

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:51:59 -0400
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  [removed]

    means Freight on Board

    -or-

    according to the Kingfish, "francs over the barrelhead" IIRC

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:56:00 -0400
    From: <welsa@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The girl in the [removed]

    ...maybe that "unknown" girl with Bob Hastings is really Jughead in drag!
    Oh, wait, that can't be, she is definitely better looking than Bob.

    :)

    Ted

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:56:36 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed] explanation

    Elizabeth S. asked:

>     What does [removed] mean?  I know that it has something to do with
>     automobiles, but for the life of me, I don't know what the acronym stands
>     for.  I have heard it in commercials, as well as in some jokes and would
>     like to get more info.

    [removed] has many meanings, but it's commonly used as the abbreviation for
    Freight on Board, referring to shipping cargo and products.
    MG

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:40:25 -0400
    From: BryanH362@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Memorial Weekend with Walden Hughes

    As always the program is  heard Friday , Saturday and Sunday  at 10:30
    Eastern/7:30 Pacific.  Internet streaming at [removed]    .

    This weekends line-up to include

    Aa mix of interviews and Old Time radio shows

     Friday 5-28-04

    Co-host Frank Bresee   will share special Bob Hope material to honor Bob's
    birthday  of
      5-29-03.

     Saturday 5-29-04

     A.  Walden interviews Steve Lawerence. (pre-recorded) .

     B.  A Salute to Bob Hope  on his birthday .  Sherwood Schwartz, and Phillis
    Diller
    share their  memories in an interview from days past.

    Sunday 5-30-04

     A.  Michael  Biels will have as  guest Alexander B. Magoun [removed] Executive
    Director
            of the  David Sarnoff Library   (LIVE).

     B.  Laura Leff  and  the Jack Benny show of 5-23-37

     C.  Interview with Grace Lowery the wife of Fred Lowery the blind whisler.

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:41:26 -0400
    From: "barry" <barry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: About preserving cds

    Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:03:44 -0400
    From: Jer51473@[removed]
    Subject:  About preserving cds

>     I just purchased some otr mp3s from a vendor and was strongly advised
>     to put labels on them to protect the cds. The vendor, of course, sells
>     labels, but firmly expressed their protective function. Most of my otr cds
>     do not have labels because i have not spent the extra money for such.
>     Instead, i have just labeled them myself using a marking pencil.
>     They are not attractive, but i can identify each. Question: how
>     important is a label? I thought the underside of the
>     cd was what was important to protect, not the topside. Anyone, please
>     advise.

    I suggest reading the CDR faq at [removed].

    About labels it says that that's an undecided issue.  A lot of people insist
    that they're good protection and others warn that there are problems
    associated with them.  Some of the problems are that they make the CDR too
    thick for a few players; they're very difficult to remove without ruining
    the CDR and if they're not properly aligned they can vibrate and ruin the
    player.

    With a store-bought CD, the bottom is most easily damaged.  With a CDR or
    CDRW the bottom is just as easily damaged but the top much more so.  That's
    because there's a fluid dye layer inside which is the actual recording media
    and since it's thick it comes very close to the top surface and the top is
    extremely thin.  Scratching either side can damage the CDR but scratches on
    the bottom can usually be repaired by buffing.  Scratches on the top almost
    always ruin the CDR.

    Marking them with a pen can be a problem, too.  It has to have a very soft
    tip.  And it has to have a balanced ph.  If it's too acid or too alkaline it
    can eventually eat it's way into the surface.  The company that makes
    Sharpies says that they are balanced ph and safe to use on CDRs.

    I don't know any of this from my own experience.  I've never damaged a CDR.
    I've used labels a few times and never had a problem.  I use an applicator
    designed for the labels.  I normally don't label them and I've always marked
    them with Sharpies and in several years of doing that I haven't had a
    problem yet.

    I'm just sumarizing what I remember from the faq.

    Barry

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:42:20 -0400
    From: "barry" <barry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: MP3 player for walking

    Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:04:17 -0400
    From: Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  MP3 player for walking

>     Does anyone know of an MP3 player that will play the
>     slow bitrate OTRs and has an antiskip function that
>     one could use for walking. I have a Rio but its not
>     good for that.

    I have an Iriver IMP-50 that I got from Amazon on sale.  I think they're
    currently $40.  Iriver made the Rio Volt for Rio and Sonic Blue but the ones
    they make under their own labels have better battery life, more powerful
    amplifiers and a million more features.  Well, maybe not a million. :)

    So far it's never failed to play anything that will play on my computer.  It
    says 32 to 320 kbs but I've played much lower bitrate OTR shows on it with
    no problems.

    Skip protection is excellent but, unless you have one of the cheaper Volts
    that should be good too.  I have a Rio Volt 100 that I've never had a
    problem with.

    Anyway, the IMP-50 has resume and ff and rew within a track, bookmarks,
    adjustable rew speed, study, which lets you tap the stop button and it
    automatically jumps back 10 seconds (or 5 depending on the setting) and more
    functions than I can remember.

    The one thing it lacks that some of the more expensive models have is a
    backlight.  I do miss that but it's so good every other way I don't care.
    Also it gets 16 hours battery life for MP3.

    Putting the CDs in is a little awkward because the door is on the bottom.
    It's a little strange but not really a problem.  Other than that it's got a
    great interface.

    Barry

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:01:11 -0400
    From: "[removed] Lindsey" <lindse@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Memories

    Thanks to Tony Baechler for his post regarding a CD order to Radio Memories.

    I have sent Tony 3 emails (3/11, 3/15, 3/17)  asking him to give me specific
    numbers to be replaced. I haven't received any response from any of the
    emails.  There is no time limit, nor does the replacement have to be done
    all at once, just give me the curtsey of a response before airing a
    complaint on a public forum.

    Since Tony went into specific issues and even presumed how our cds were
    produced and indicated he thought the hum was introduced by something he
    referred to as a "commercial recorder", let me address those issues for
    other readers.

    The process we use is to take an audio master from Ted's collection, covert
    that to digital and burn a cd. Our goal is to produce as close as possible,
    a  CD copy of Ted's master. We use no "commercial recorders" in the process.
    As most of you know, even within one series, say Amos And Andy, the quality
    of each program may vary greatly, sometimes with hum, or off speed, pops and
    static. Often, we may have several "masters" for the same program and we are
    always looking for a better "master".  We offer a customizing service where
    we can take a program you may have and remove hum, static, pops, tape his,
    correct speed etc. This is a time intensive process and is charged at an
    hourly rate. This rate is quoted upfront before the work begins and is based
    on hearing the recording to analyze what can be done and how much time it
    will take. Obviously this can't be done for the rates we charge for regular
    or sale orders.

    I think our replacement guarantee is the best in the business. I know of no
    other company that will sell CDs for $1 and offer a replacement.

    Again, I speak for myself, as an independent contractor. Ted Davenport and
    Radio Memories has always emphasized the goal is complete customer
    satisfaction.

    [removed] Lindsey        George Jennings

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:51:19 -0400
    From: Art Chimes <achimes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: FOB

    Elizabeth S. asked about the meaning of FOB. It's a legal/commercial
    term:

    "FOB. A shipping term which indicates that the supplier pays the
    shipping costs (and usually also the insurance costs) from the point of
    manufacture to a specified destination, at which point the buyer takes
    responsibility."

    (source: [removed])

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:15:48 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-28 births/deaths

    May 28th births

    05-28-1899 - Richard Lane - Rice Lake, WI - d. 9-5-1982
    actor: Inspector Faraday "Boston Blackie"
    05-28-1902 - "Little" Jack Little - London, England - d. 4-9-1956
    singer: (Cheerful Little Earful) "Little Jack Little Show"
    05-28-1906 - Phil Regan - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-11-1996
    singer: (The Singing Cop) "Burns and Allen"
    05-28-1912 - Violet Dunn - d. 11-14-1982
    actress: Peggy O'Neill "The O'Neill's"
    05-28-1922 - Scott McKay - Pleasantville, IA - d. 3-16-1987
    actor: John Nelson "Barry Cameron"

    May 28th deaths

    04-08-1887 - Walter Connolly - Cincinnati, OH - d. 5-28-1940
    actor: Charlie Chan "Charlie Chan"
    06-01-1911 - Erik Rolf - Chicago, IL - d. 5-28-1957
    actor: Hans Simon "Joyce Jordan, [removed]"; Thor Nielsen "Prairie Folks"
    06-20-1924 - Audie Murphy - Kingston, TX - d. 5-28-1971
    world war II hero, actor: "Cavalcade of America"
    07-16-1908 - Frank Singiser - Montevideo, MN - d. 5-28-1982
    newscaster: "Mutual News"
    08-29-1907 - Lurene Tuttle - Pleasant Lake, IN (Raised: CA) - d. 5-28-1986
    actress: Effie Perrine "Advs. of Sam Spade"; Ellie Connors "Lum and Abner"
    09-01-1899 - Richard Arlen - Charlottesville, VA - d. 5-28-1976
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    09-22-1914 - Martha Scott - Jamesport, MO - d. 5-28-2003
    actress: Alice Blair "Career of Alice Blair"; "Somerset Maugham Theatre"
    09-26-1896 - Vaughn DeLeath - Pulaski, IL - d. 5-28-1943
    singer: (The Original Radio Girl) "Voice of Firestone"
    11-15-1923 - Robert Barron - NYC - d. 5-28-2002
    actor: Flint Blackbeard "Jack Armstrong"
    11-24-1906 - Don McLaughlin - Webster, IA - d. 5-28-1986
    actor: David Harding "Counterspy"; "Jim Brent "Road of Life"; Chaplain Jim
    "Chaplain Jim"
    12-02-1895 - Jesse Crawford - Woodland, CA - d. 5-28-1962
    organist: "Paramount Publix Hour"; "Counterspy"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:17:10 -0400
    From: "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  1962 Indianapolis 500

    For someone who has collected OTR programs for many years, I've also
    collected many of the old sporting events. With the Indianapolis 500 coming
    Sunday, I am reminded that
    I have recently obtained a copy of the 1962 Indianapolis 500 on 3 CDs. If
    anyone is interested in getting a copy please contact me off the digest.
    Wishing everyone a happy and safe Memorial day.
    Best regards,
    Mike Ray

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:32:13 -0400
    From: wilditralian@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed]

    27 MAY 04

    Elizabeth S. asked what the meaning of [removed] is.

    It stands for Free On Board.  If the price of a foreign car is quoted as
    [removed] New York, it means that that is what the car would cost you
    delivered at the port of New York, on the docks.  It does not include
    inland transportation or dealer prep.

    Regards,

    Jim Arva

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:41:01 -0400
    From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WWII Music

    Much WWII-era music slated for the four-day National WWII Reunion in
    [removed] beginning today:
    [removed]

    Line-up includes Dick Johnson leading the Artie Shaw Orchestra, the
    "Broadway in Wartime" revue, and the USO Liberty Belles in a recreation
    reminiscent of the Andrews Sisters.

    Bhob @ CLASSIC COMIC STRIPS @ [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:41:59 -0400
    From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Burnt Cork

    Hal Stone reported:

>     Corks, from wine bottles, when
>     burnt and charred on the end, were used as makeup to
>     make "Black-faces" for Minstrel shows.

    I knew that! :)  But only because a few weeks ago I
    played the part of Judas Iscariot for a church drama,
    and since my beard is mostly gray, and only a goatee,
    our director suggested we use burnt-cork to darken the
    beard and "fill-in" the rest of the facial hair to
    make the beard look more full.  But thinking about
    what burnt-cork must smell like, I didn't savor the
    idea.  So instead of burn-cork I used face paint.  Now
    I'm thinking Grecian-Formula.

    Dave Phaneuf

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:37:14 -0400
    From: Lanny Gilbert <morsefan1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: [removed]

    Froggievilleus said:

>     What does [removed] mean?  I know that it has something
>     to do with automobiles, but for the life of me, I
>     don't know what the acronym stands for.  I have heard
>     it in commercials, as well as in some jokes and would
>     like to get more info.

    Well, I don't know what it *really* means, but in the Amos and
    Andy episode where Kingfish sells Andy the French car, he tells
    Andy that [removed] means "Francs On the Barrelhead".

    I always get a chuckle out of that one.

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    Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:16:43 -0400
    From: "Ron Vanover" <rvanover@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ron's 20:1 OTR Trading Post Updated

    I've recently updated my website, Ron's 20:1 OTR Trading Post
    [removed] .  I'm currently offering 20:1, 10:1, and
    2:1 trades for selected episodes from the following programs:

    The Life of Riley
    Father Knows Best
    The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet
    Amos and Andy
    Stars Over Hollywood
    Bill Stern's Colgate Sports Newsreel
    Adventures in Research
    Life with Luigi
    The Lux Radio Theater
    Screen Director's Playhouse
    The Radio Reader's Digest
    The Whistler

    If you haven't visited the site in a while, you'll find several welcome
    changes.  Please drop in anytime.

    Ron Vanover
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 00:15:10 -0400
    From: "Tim Hughes" <rekokut@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Temple [removed], etc. etc.  / anyone have issues
     with old Audio Classics reels?

    Hi,

    I'm a big ILAM fan myself, but mainly because I don't care for the "Temple
    of Vampires", I'm not too disappointed in the news.  I figured something of
    the sort would be the case anyway.  Fellow ILAM fans may think me a cretin,
    but I just don't care for Temple at all.  I also consider the famous
    "Stairway To the Sun" to be by far the worst ILAM storyline I've read. I
    consider it and "Hermit" to be the only truly bad ILAM storylines I've seen
    so far.   (I've read about maybe half the storylines, maybe 60%?).  Terrible
    story!  Even the Hummerts could have written better, in Stairway.

    My fav. so far are the mansion/spooky locale stories: "Monster in the
    Mansion," "Blood on the Cat" (a good one!).  And a thriller one, "Murder on
    February Island" (A+).  I even like "The Thing That Wouldn't Die".

    Per RM CDs, I've had the exact same issues as Mr. Baechler's had.  The speed
    problems I can fix, and I managed to salvage an overmodulated Captain
    Midnight through Sonic Foundry's clipped peaks remover.  I, though, mainly
    stay with Ed Carr for 90% of my orders.  Terry Salomonson fills in the rest
    at the conventions, when I buy from him.  Ed's stuff, (from reels) is
    usually a bit offspeed (sometimes fast, sometimes slow) but that's very easy
    to fix, and once done, the sound is VERY GOOD.  I have never been
    disappointed with an Ed order.  Terry's CDs are also top notch.

    Does anyone have any experience with old Audio Classics reels from when it
    was in Missouri?  I bought a bunch of reels (mainly 3 3/4 ips) at the
    convention, and shockingly (I was truly surprised) the Audio Classics ones
    were the worst of the bunch (I had bought mainly pedigreed reels).  The
    problem;  DROPOUTS.  The reels (Ampex 641) had chronic dropout problems and
    in and out ([removed] one word would be there, the next dropped out, etc.).
    Notes from the previous owner dated 1991 and 1993 noted the dropouts so they
    were there when they were fairly new, not just now.  One reel had a big
    "Degaussed" sticker on it.  I don't know if the reels being degaussed before
    recording had something to do with it.  There were maybe 5 reels.  EVERY one
    had at least one dropout issue.  The non-Audio Classics ones from the same
    owner had little to no dropouts.

    Thanks, I hope someone might know why this phenomenon is taking place.

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    Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:16:27 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fess Parker

    I'm not sure if Fess "Davey Crockett" Parker ever did any OTR (and at a spry
    79 I guess it's unlikley) but he is the subject of an editorial in today's
    Wall Street Journal (page W13) on his role as a land developer in California.

    He's selling land to Indian tribes so he can build apartment buildings that
    don't conform with local zoning codes.  Seems he still has the spirit of the
    frontier in him.

    Anyone know if he's an OTR vet?  That was a rhetorical question.  I expect a
    six-screen biography by this [removed]

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

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