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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 193
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Same time, same station               [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      What would it [removed]                 [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      The Golden Age of Radio               [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed] ]
      If my radio had a V-chip ...          [ Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed]; ]
      Re: Bill Conrad photography book      [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      the untouchables [removed]       [ Afanofoldradio@[removed] ]
      re: Si and Elmer                      [ Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed]; ]
      Victor Borge on NBC                   [ Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed]; ]
      Joel Siegel                           [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
      Private Eyelashes                     [ "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@[removed]; ]
      7-2 births/deaths                     [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      re: Private Eyelashes                 [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      OTR Book-Scott                        [ Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed]; ]
      OTR in the News                       [ seandd@[removed] ]
      "Those Were The Days" still gets it   [ Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:12:11 -0400
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Same time, same station

    One of the lines repetitiously applied by network radio announcers that
    sticks in my mind from childhood is the signature sign-off "Tune in (again)
    (tomorrow) (next time) (next week)" that was almost inevitably followed by
    "...same time ... same station."  Although I'm certain I heard the infamous
    tagline scores of times on juvenile adventure serials plus some primetime
    fare (dramas?  comedies?), there's only one place that I can reliably recall
    it.

    For years and years I never heard interlocutor Dan Donaldson (who frequently
    used the pseudonym Charlie Warren) say anything else as he signed off the
    beloved and beleaguered heroine Ma Perkins every day.  He possessed a rich
    basso profundo that was flawless.  Donaldson put a strong emphasis on "same"
    as he metered out the term, almost like he was trying to turn it into
    multiple syllables:  "Tune in again tomorrow," he'd allow.  "S-a-a-a-m-m-e
    time ... s-a-a-a-m-m-e station."  After a couple of decades of that
    (counting prior and successor announcers), listeners fell into a groove and
    accepted it as part of the farewell nomenclature.

    The homilies dispatched by the homespun, golden-throated,
    mellifluous-sounding Donaldson often perfectly matched the scene of a
    laid-back Rushville Center.  (For sure, that was a misplaced moniker for a
    Midwestern hamlet.)  He took incredible monologue from wordsmith Orin Tovrov
    and applied it as if he originated the copy, typically summarizing
    matter-of-factly at the close of one episode:  "And so ... the whole family
    is deeply concerned about Fay.  And though Ma expresses her deep faith in
    Fay ... is Ma concerned too?  Well, Fay does see Andrew White and ... Fay
    finds words on her tongue which surprise even Fay ... tomorrow."  Then, as
    expected:  "For now, this is Dan Donaldson reminding you to tune in again
    ... tomorrow ... s-a-a-a-m-m-e time ... s-a-a-a-m-m-e station."  But with
    metaphors like the previous ones, who among those legions of the faithful
    could resist?  There wasn't much doubt about their being in that vast throng
    tuning in.

    Daniel Jones Donaldson, born March 11, 1915 at St. Louis, died at Chapel
    Hill, N. C. on Dec. 1, 1991.  After seven years of studying law and medicine
    at St. Louis University and supporting himself by announcing at the school
    station, WEW, when a pal bet him he couldn't get a "real" radio job,
    Donaldson -- on a dare -- stopped by the network affiliates in Chicago while
    vacationing in 1939.  He surprised both his chum and himself, landing
    announcing spots on not one but two daytime serials.  His repertoire
    eventually included Clara, Lu 'n' Em; Kitty Keene, Incorporated; Radio
    Reader's Digest; Road of Life; and The Trouble with Marriage.  He delivered
    the commercials on Can You Top This? for much of the 1940s while working
    several other programs in Chicago and New York.

    Not sure why those other shows that used a similar exit from the airwaves
    don't come to me now, by the way.  One way of finding out is to play
    hundreds of representative tapes.  A quicker one is to mention it on the
    digest.  Readers?

    Then I can say, "Uh, oh, I could have had a V-8."  (I wonder:  is that
    instead of a V-6?)

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:12:23 -0400
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  What would it [removed]

    What program would be so good that the theaters in our town would stop the
    film and pipe in a radio program -- today?  Or TV audio.  I have asked
    myself the question -- but I can't think of one.  It probably would NOT be
    Garrison Keillor, Paul Harvey, the Tabernacle Choir, or Unshackled.  Those
    are the only "old time radio" programs that are still on the air -- as far
    as I know.

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:12:35 -0400
    From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Golden Age of Radio

    The Golden Age of Radio - WTIC Website has added
    another program - a 1974 hour of "The Dick Bertel
    Show" where he interviews Bob Payne, an authority
    of the history of Connecticut radio.

    At the same web site you can hear 89 "Golden Age of
    Radio" shows and 43 "One Night Stand with the Big
    Bands" programs.

    [removed]

    Bob Scherago
    Web Master

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:35:53 -0400
    From: Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  If my radio had a V-chip ...

    [complete this sentence]

    When I was young, if my radio had a V-chip, I never would have heard ....

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:37:07 -0400
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:  Bill Conrad photography book

    I've heard from Bill's son, and the book I wrote about yesterday is not
    by THE Bill Conrad.  The author is "Wm B. Conrad," but the OTR star is
    "John William Conrad."

    ---Dan

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 19:12:34 -0400
    From: Afanofoldradio@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  the untouchables [removed]
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    the announcer for the untouchables was Walter Winchell

    _afanofoldradio@[removed]_ (mailto:afanofoldradio@[removed])   ed  kienzler
    springfield, illinois

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:28:07 -0400
    From: Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Si and Elmer

    I have to agree that the "Si and Elmer" shows are painful to listen to.  I
    gave up after the first series in which nothing was funny and the solution
    to the mystery was obvious to the audience way too early.

    It does have the positive side effect of making better shows sound really
    terrific in comparison.

    I was reminded of a series of short stories called "Philo Gubb,
    Correspondence-School Detective" (1918) by Ellis Parker Butler (1869-1937).
    Unfortunately, the "Si and Elmer" knockoff was really inadequate.  I can
    only hope that it was a learning experience for everyone involved and that
    they did better the next time.

    Stephen D
    Calgary

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:31:46 -0400
    From: Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Victor Borge on NBC

    from Joe Mackey's excellent history series:

>     1945 - Victor Borge was first heard on NBC. The network gave the
>     comedian/pianist the summer replacement slot for Fibber McGee and Molly.

    I think this factoid was abbreviated from a fuller version.  This would be
    the day that Borge got his own show, but he was heard years earlier as a
    semi-regular on NBC's "Kraft Music Hall" with Bing Crosby (c. 1942).

    Stephen D
    Calgary

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:35:21 -0400
    From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Joel Siegel
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    Joel Siegel contacted me in the 1990's in my official capacity as proprietor of
    Vintage Broadcasts.  He was looking for a copy of Sergeant Preston.  It seems
    he sent away for a premium as a child and the premium was a deed for a small
    (maybe 2" x 3" or whatever piece of land).  He was on assigment for ABC to
    see his piece of property and needed some biographical information as well as
    some audio to use for the piece he was doing about his land.  I saw the
    report and it was amusing; he had the latitude and longitude readings (like
    on a map) and did find his property, but wasn't sure if any land claim would
    hold up, since it was about 40+ years later.  A few months after that, he
    told me he and Leonard Nimoy went to school together in the Los Angeles area
    but I can't recall if they graduated from the same high school.
    The only old-school veteran of movie reviewers is Gene Shalit who has been on
    the air during Joel Siegel's employment, and maybe Roger Ebert.  I hadn't
    talked to Joel Siegel for several years.  During the time I first spoke to
    him, he had gotten married and had a child and I had two more.  He had taken
    time off a few years ago because of the illness but no mention wa made of it
    since then.
    Andy Blatt

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:37:14 -0400
    From: "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Private Eyelashes

>     My wife and I just got back from a very entertaining afternoon in Kenosha,
>     WI.  "Private Eyelashes", a celebration of the female character in radio
>     drama, was presented at the Kenosha Museum

     On behalf of our cast and crew, I'd like to thank Mark and any other members
    of [removed] who attended Sunday afternoon's production at the Kenosha Public
    Museum!  Glad you had a good time.  I, too, greatly enjoyed the opportunity
    to meet  and talk to Jack French!!   Incidently, I was the guy asking the
    questions and handing out the Snickers bars during the intermission
    pseudo-Dr. IQ quiz.
    --don
    Don Jensen

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:35:36 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  7-2 births/deaths

    July 2nd births

    07-02-1892 - Jack Hylton - Great Lever, England - d. 1-29-1965
    bandmaster: CBS 1935-1936 Sundays at 10:30 PM Standard Oil
    07-02-1910 - Earl Robinson - d. 7-20-1991
    composer: "The Pursuit of Happiness"
    07-02-1910 - Jeff Alexander - Whidbey Island, WA - d. 12-4-1989
    conductor: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Light Up Time"; "Tums Hollywood Theatre"
    07-02-1914 - Clint Alley - d. 3-9-1994
    sportscaster: WKOY West Virginia
    07-02-1916 - Barry Gray - Red Lion, NJ - d. 12-21-1996
    talk show host: "Barry Gray on Broadway"; "Scout About Town"
    07-02-1916 - Ken Curtis - Lamar, CO - d. 4-28-1991
    singing cowboy: "Hollywood Barn Dance"
    07-02-1921 - Paul Atkerson - d. 5-16-1988
    newscaster: KPHO Phoenix, Arizona
    07-02-1924 - Bryant Arbuckle - d. 6-xx-1976
    disk jockey: WAIR Winston-Salem, North Carolina
    07-02-1927 - Brock Peters - NYC - d. 8-23-2005
    actor: Darth Vader "Star Wars"; "Earplay"
    07-02-1928 - John Timpson - Harrow, England - d. 11-19-2005
    presenter: "Today"

    July 2nd deaths

    01-17-1875 - Minetta Ellen - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-2-1965
    actor: Francis 'Fanny' Barbour "One Man's Family"
    01-31-1927 - Norman Prescott - Boston, MA - d. 7-2-2005
    producer: Boston radio
    03-27-1914 - Snooky Lanson - Memphis, TN - d. 7-2-1990
    singer: "Snooky Lanson Show"; "Your Hit Parade"
    05-05-1915 - Ben Wright - London, England - d. 7-2-1989
    actor: Hey Boy "Have Gun, Will Travel"; Nicholas Lacey "One Man's
    Family"
    05-08-1910 - Nathan Van Cleave - Bayfield, WI - d. 7-2-1970
    music: "The Man Behind the Gun"; "This Is Your FBI"
    05-15-1910 - Walter Cassel - Council Bluffs, IA - d. 7-2-2000
    baritone: "General Motors Concerts"; "Calling America"
    05-20-1908 - James Stewart - Indiana, PA - d. 7-2-1997
    actor: Britt Ponset "Six Shooter"
    05-30-1920 - Franklin J. Schaffner - Tokyo, Japan - d. 7-2-1989
    writer, director: "World Security Workshop"; "The March of Time"
    06-09-1905 - Martha Boswell - Kansas City, MO - d. 7-2-1958
    singer: (The Boswell Sisters) "The Boswell Sisters"; "Woodbury Soap
    Show"
    06-10-1919 - Hal Simms - Boston, MA - d. 7-2-2002
    announcer: "The Steve Allen Show"; "Stop the Music!"
    06-15-1905 - James Robertson Justice - Wigtown, Scotland - d. 7-2-1975
    actor: "Star Bill"
    07-09-1910 - Alfred Kreymborg - NYC - d. 7-2-1991
    writer: "The Columbia Workshop"
    07-10-1926 - Fred Gwynne - NYC - d. 7-2-1993
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    07-21-1899 - Ernest Hemingway - Oak Park, IL - d. 7-2-1961
    author: "NBC University Theatre"; "Columbia Workshop"; "Screen Guild
    Theatre"
    07-23-1936 - Don Drysdale - Van Nuys, CA - d. 7-2-1993
    baseball announcer: California Angels, Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles
    Dodgers
    07-24-1898 - Amelia Earhart - Atchinson, KS - d. 7-2-1937
    aviatrix: "Amelia Earhart", "Cities Service Concerts"
    09-30-1896 - Fred Wright - San Diego, CA - d. 7-2-1990
    writer, actor: "Lights Out"; "Mystery is My Hobby"; "Ma Perkins"
    10-04-1916 - Jan Murray - The Bronx, NY - d. 7-2-2006
    emcee: "Songs for Sale"; "Meet Your Match"
    10-13-1926 - Ray Brown - d. 7-2-2002
    jazz bassist: "Bands for Bonds"; "Here's to Veterans"; "White House
    Jazz Festival"
    11-05-1919 - Hy Zaret - Syracuse, NY - d. 7-2-2004
    writer: "Sing It Again"
    11-09-1909 - Kay Thompson - St. Louis, MO - d. 7-2-1998
    singer: "Fred Waring Show"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Tune-Up Time"
    12-18-1916 - Betty Grable - St. Louis, MO - d. 7-2-1973
    actor: "Hollywood Showcase"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "So You Want to
    Lead a Band"
    xx-xx-xxxx - John Walsh - d. 7-2-1945
    actor: Private Homer Stubbs "Dear Mom"; Chuck Blair "Romance of Helen
    Trent"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:37:20 -0400
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Private Eyelashes

    Mark Higgins, presenting a review of the Private Eyelashes shindig in
    Kenosha, wrote:

>     Both scripts were well acted, with live sound effects and live music,
>     including a saxophonist for the first episode, and a great organist,
>     George Wertz, supplying the background and atmosphere for Candy
>     Matson.

    I almost dropped my teeth when I read about the organist--that's my
    uncle! Well, I have an uncle named George Wertke, a pianist and
    organist who lives in Milwaukee, and my mother just mentioned to me
    this past week that he played organ recently on a recreation of "The
    Shadow." Made me realize we haven't spoken on the phone in a while, so
    I picked it up (before I'd even finished reading Mark's message) and
    gave George a call. Sure enough, it's him! He says he had a blast doing
    this, as well as the Shadow gig last month, and he really enjoyed
    meeting Jack French. He also had a lot of fun playing the radio jingles
    for the Dr. [removed] segment.

    What an amazingly small world it is sometimes. George has known about
    my love of old-time radio for years. (He has great memories of radio
    but my mother, who is only two years younger, can't seem to remember a
    thing about it.) In fact, he still routinely sends me wonderful old
    books related to radio stars (and silent movie and vaudeville actors
    too), that he picks up at old bookstores and library sales. I've picked
    up some real gems through him. But I never in a million years thought
    that he'd ever have an OTR connection (even if it is only through
    recreations!).

    As they used to say on Lum and Abner--wonderful world!

    Kermyt

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    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:37:03 -0400
    From: Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Book-Scott

    There are a few out there and I am sure you will get
    the names of some of the others. I beleive the most
    popular and my favorite is John Dunning's On the Air:
    The Encyclopedia of Old Time Radio. If you go to
    [removed] you will find new copies available
    for around forty bucks and used for a little less.

    It will give you just about everything you could want
    to know about a radio program including dates and
    times it was on the air, network, sponsor, type, stars
    and trivia you may not have though about. A second
    thing I like to do when i am in a hurry is just type
    in the name of the program and +otr. You would be
    surprised what will come up.

    Jerry

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:06:23 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR in the News
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    This newspaper in Willkes-Barre Pennsylvania published a tribute to Phil Harris:
    [removed];BRD=2259&PAG=461&dept_id=455149&rfi=6
    Also, this history of KFRC in San Francisco from the San Francisco Chronicle will also be of interest to many.
    [removed];type=tvradio
    Sean DoughertySeanDD@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:04:29 -0400
    From: Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Those Were The Days" still gets it [removed]

     7/4 1951 - Jack Webb did a summer switch -- from his

>     Dragnet role of Sgt. Joe Friday to that of Pete
>     Kelly.

    More accurately, he did double-duty.  The entry sounds
    like Webb stopped playing Friday in order to portray
    Kelly.  Untrue: he did BOTH roles.

>     7/7 1949 - Dragnet was first heard on NBC radio

    Episode five aired on this date.  DRAGNET made its
    debut on June 3, 1949.  Where does one go to complain
    to "Those Were the Days"?

    Michael

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