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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2011 : Issue 13
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [ charlie@[removed] ]
Flo Gibson has died. [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
Re: mistake in David Nelson AP obitu [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
1-17 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
michael shane [ Grams46@[removed] ]
Re: Wrong Jack Benny program? [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
Green Hornet movie ... [ "Bill Wilson" <[removed]@jacobsme ]
Green Hornet music [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
A pageant to remember [ "otrbuff" <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
1-18 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
"Green Hornet" movie [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
Lone Ranger broadcast [ Keith Houdeshell <khowdy@[removed] ]
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:12:01 -0500
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!
Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!
For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:59:33 -0500
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Flo Gibson has died.
Although this article focuses on her audio book narration, there is mention
of her playing on west-coast radio serials, including Pat Novak for Hire.
Does anyone know other series she was on? None of the Novak shows list her
in the cast, though many of them are from AFRS, and don't list the
supporting players.
[removed];ref=obituaries
Matthew
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:59:43 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: mistake in David Nelson AP obituary
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When David Nelson died last week, the AP obit included this flub:
**The show originated on radio in 1952 as "Here Come the Nelsons, then ran
for 320 episodes on TV from 1952 to 1966 as The Adventures of Ozzie and
Harriet with some of the story lines taken from the stars' own lives. ***
Obviously it originated much earlier as"The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet"
and "Here Come the Nelsons" was the 1952 movie. What in the world keeps
happening to these people? Is OTR so remote and "old" that some of these
reporters have to blow the facts this badly to keep their hip "street cred"
or are the researchers that sloppy?
Dixon
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:59:48 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 1-17 births/deaths
January 17th births
01-17-1874 - Edna Wallace Hopper - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-14-1959
Gave beauty tips on the networks 1930-1932
01-17-1875 - Minetta Ellen - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-2-1965
actor: Francis 'Fanny' Barbour "One Man's Family"
01-17-1880 - Mack Sennett - Richmond, Quebec, Canada - d. 11-5-1960
king of silent comedy: "Hear It Now"; "Biography In Sound"
01-17-1884 - Noah Beery, Sr. - Kansas City, MO - d. 4-1-1946
actor: "Campbell Playhouse"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-17-1891 - Marjorie Gateson - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-17-1977
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-17-1899 - Nevil Shute - Ealing, England - d. 1-12-1960
novelist: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-17-1903 - Warren Hull - Gasport, NY - d. 9-14-1974
actor: Jack Hamilton "Gibson Family"
01-17-1904 - Grant Withers - Pueblo, CO - d. 3-27-1959
actor: "Calling All Cars"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
01-17-1904 - Knox Manning - Worcester, MA - d. 8-26-1980
announcer: "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes"; "Headlines on Parade"
01-17-1904 - Patsy Ruth Miller - d. 7-16-1995
silent film star: "Arthur Godfrey and His Talent Scouts"
01-17-1905 - Peggy Gilbert - Sioux City, IA - d. 2-12-2007
saxophonist: "The Early Girls and the Three Chirps"
01-17-1908 - Marjorie Anderson - Spokane, WA - d. 12-2-1945
actor: Margo Lane "The Shadow"
01-17-1910 - Tex Fletcher - Harrison, NY - d. 3-14-1987
actor: Tex Mason "Songs of the B-Bar-B"
01-17-1914 - Ann Loring - NYC - d. 7-10-2005
actor: "Casey, Crime Photographer"; "X Minus One"
01-17-1914 - Howard Marion-Crawford - England - d. 11-24-1969
actor: Sherlock Holmes "BBC Home Theatre"
01-17-1914 - Irving Brecher - NYC - d. 11-17-2008
writer, producer: "Community Sing"; "The Life of Riley"
01-17-1915 - Hugh Brundage - Montana - d. 3-31-1972
announcer: "Academy Award Theatre"; "Aunt Mary"
01-17-1916 - Ray Forrest - Germany - d. 3-11-1999
staff announcer for NBC
01-17-1917 - Sam Locke - Peabody, MA - d. 9-18-1998
scriptwriter: "Grand Central Station"; "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"
01-17-1919 - Dallas Townsend - NYC - d. 6-1-1995
newscaster: "CBS World News Roundup"; "World Tonight"
01-17-1921 - Herb Ellis - Cleveland, OH
actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"
01-17-1922 - Betty White - Oak Park, IL
hostess: "Betty White on Animals": "The Betty White Show"
01-17-1926 - Moira Shearer - Dunfermine, Scotland - d. 1-31-2006
worked briefly as a radio announcer in the 1980s
01-17-1927 - Eartha Kitt - North, SC - d. 12-25-2008
singer: "Here's to Veterans"
01-17-1930 - Dick Contino - Fresno, CA
accordionist: "Horace Heidt and His Musical Knights"
01-17-1931 - James Earl Jones - Arkabutla, MS
actor: "We Hold These Truths"
01-17-1933 - Shari Lewis - NYC - d. 8-2-1998
ventruloquist: "No School Today"
01-17-1941 - Clive Elvyn Rice (Clyde Campbell) - Haslemere, Surrey,
England
actor: Bobby Benson "Bobby Benson and the B-Bar-B Riders"
01-17-1956 - Steve Harvey - Welch, WV
comdian: "Steve Harvey Morning Show"
January 17th deaths
02-18-1905 - Queenie Leonard - London, England - d. 1-17-2002
actor: "NBC University Theatre"
02-18-1922 - Allan Melvin - Kansas City, MO - d. 1-17-2008
actor: "Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts"; "Arthur Godfrey Time"
03-06-1916 - Rochelle Hudson - Oklahoma City, OK - d. 1-17-1972
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
03-22-1907 - Bernice Claire - Oakland, CA - d. 1-17-2003
vocalist: "Waltz Time"
03-25-1910 - Jack Carlton - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-1991
staff singer, actor, announcer: WCAU Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
08-17-1913 - Guy Della-Cioppa - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-2000
director: "An American in Russia"; "The Columbia Workshop"
09-20-1912 - John W. Loveton - d. 1-17-1997
director: "The Shadow"; "Mr. and Mrs. North"; "Court of Missing Heirs"
09-22-1915 - Vincent Donehue - Whitehall, NY - d. 1-17-1966
actor: Neil Davison "Home of the Brave"
09-24-1904 - Jan August - NYC - d. 1-17-1976
pianist, bandleader: "Quarter hour broadcast on Mutual during 1947-48
09-26-1919 - Barbara Britton - Long Beach, CA - d. 1-17-1980
actor: Pamela North "Mr. and Mrs. North"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
10-20-1925 - Art Buchwald - Mount Vernon, NY - d. 1-17-2007
humorist: "Monitor"
10-22-1908 - Frances Drake - NYC - d. 1-17-2000
actor: "Stars of Tomorrow"
11-27-1910 - Ray Herbeck - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-17-1989
bandleader: "Ray Herbeck and His Orchestra"
11-30-1920 - Virginia Mayo - St. Louis, MO - d. 1-17-2005
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-02-1916 - Charlie Ventura - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-1992
tenor sazophonist: "Spotlight Bands"; "Gene Krupa and His Orchestra"
12-06-1924 - Susanna Foster - Chicago, IL - d. 1-17-2009
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Mail Call"
12-15-1896 - Betty Smith - NYC - d. 1-17-1972
author: "Studio One"; "Hallmark Playhouse"
12-18-1916 - Bill McCord - Colville, WA - d. 1-17-2004
announcer: "The Circle Arrow Show"; "Easy Money"
12-22-1908 - Elsa Buchanan - London, England - d. 1-17-2004
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
Ron
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:59:59 -0500
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: michael shane
janbach@[removed] writes:
I believe I have heard Bill Conrad in another role in that later [removed];
i was listening to a jeff chandler/michael shane recently - don't know the
date. i think the voice of the lieutenant was william conrad's.
peace from kathy
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:00:23 -0500
From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Wrong Jack Benny program?
Hello again --
I'm confused. In OTR DIgest V2011-10 Alan and Linda Bell say that
the Benny program where he decks Rochester was on 2-5-39, but in my version
of
the program Rochester doesn't even appear. In this episode Jack hires a
bodyguard (who later
robs him) to protect him from Fred Allen. The program starts with the
orchestra playing "Just
One of Those Things" as a bed to Don Wilson's Jello commercial.
Is my tape marked wrong or could the Bells have written a typo?
Could they please tell us about how far into the program this scene
occurred?
Thanks
Jan Bach
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:00:34 -0500
From: "Bill Wilson" <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Green Hornet movie ...
Just saw "The Green Hornet" and was absolutely mortified! The frat humor
didn't bother me ... neither did the creative license that Seth Rogen took in
tinkering with the origin story ... but the overblown violence and downright
disregard for human life displayed by the "heroes" of this tale were just
ghastly! The beauty of the Hornet character was that his reputation for
cold-bloodedness was contrasted with the fact that neither he nor Kato ever
directly took a life. The characters in THIS picture cause rampant
destruction, with no regard for collateral damage. It's the antithesis to
the character we know and love, both in the radio AND TV denotations. I'd
love to see television give this character another chance, with his virtues
and integrity intact. A great wasted opportunity that makes Alec Baldwin's
"The Shadow" look like "The Godfather" by comparison.
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:00:56 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Green Hornet music
Long story short, Trendle was using public domain music, but there are other
issues at hand when using music for radio broadcasts. There is a mechanical
rights clearance, which means the payment of a fee to the person who recorded
the music to disc or tape. Then there is a fee to the person or people who
performed the music. Trendle paid companies (RCA, Columbia, etc.) that issued
discs, for the rights to use their recordings, as well as paying others to
compose and perform renditions of their own. (Thus Trendle would work out a
deal for a one-time payment so he could reuse the same pieces repeatedly for
years with NO ONE asking for royalties.) Even if the music is in the public
domain (which means the writer of the music doesn't get paid unless the
person using it has a good heart), there are other rights and fees to take
into consideration such as above. If anything, the networks kept meticulous
records of all music featured on their radio broadcasts, even more than the
casting, because one slip meant lawsuits, not payments for royalties. That's
how hard the music industry cracked down on the network.
When "The Flight of the Bumblebee" was used in the movie, it was the same
recording/rendition by Al Hirt. Hirt spruced up the Bumblebee for a jazzed up
rendition and it was that rendition that was used in the movie (and yes,
Hirt's estate is making extra cash for the use of his rendition in the movie).
Martin
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:02:14 -0500
From: "otrbuff" <otrbuff@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: A pageant to remember
Over the weekend I watched the Miss America Pageant. For the first time in
a good while it appeared on a broadcast network (ABC), possibly due to it
being the 90th anniversary and maybe the site of Las Vegas. At any rate it
stirred some good memories for me of so many years past (particularly the
1960s to 1980s) when this was a highlight of every September on a Saturday
night. And almost all of those glitzy spectacles concluded with Bert Parks
(Bertram Jacobson) singing "There she is ... Miss America ... there she is
... our ideal ...."
In the intervening years much of the luster has fallen from the crown of the
MAP, almost turning it into an apologetic performance interrupting a
mid-winter's night, sans most of the glitz and, not just Bert, but his
trademark song. But somebody somewhere in ABC took a notion this time to
restore all of the pomp and circumstance, and I listened intently and ...
there it was! While the previous years' MA took her final bows, clearly
wafting in the background was the orchestra playing that familiar tune, and
then -- lo and behold -- Bert Parks himself singing it again. Included was
the mention of Atlantic City, even though the pageant departed that
metropolis quite a while back.
Bert died Feb. 2, 1992, in La Jolla, Calif., so he's been gone a long time.
But some of his music lives on, and especially this signature piece. Nobody
could ever sing it like the dashing star with the flashing twinkle in his
eyes. First and foremost, while we may associate him with this show and
with television, he got his start on radio where he was pervasive. Only 16
when hometown station WGST hired him in Atlanta, by 18 he was a CBS staff
announcer in New York earning $50 weekly in Depression America (1933). The
litany of game shows he hosted that followed was impressive: How'm I
Doin'?, Break the Bank, Second Honeymoon, Stop the Music! -- all on radio --
and on TV there was The Bert Parks Show, Double or Nothing, County Fair, The
Big Payoff and Yours for a Song. In between gigs he played the lead in
Broadway's The Music Man and hosted a two-hour radio series called NBC
Bandstand in the 50s that was eventually simulcast by NBC-TV.
He was, to my thinking, "Mr." America. The pageant did a good turn when
they restored him and his fabulous singing this past weekend.
Jim Cox
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:07:57 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 1-18 births/deaths
January 18th births
01-18-1882 - A. A. Milne - London, England - d. 1-31-1956
author: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
01-18-1889 - Brad Barker - Hempstead, Long Island, NY - d. 9-29-1951
animal sounds: Sandy "Little Orphan Annie"
01-18-1892 - Oliver Hardy - Harlem, GA - d. 8-7-1957
comedian: "Ruth Lyons Show"
01-18-1896 - Art Kassel - Chicago, IL - d. 2-3-1963
bandleader: "Kassels in the Air"; "Elgin Campus Revue"
01-18-1899 - Lucille Wall - Chicago, IL - d. 7-11-1986
actor: Portia Blake "Portia Faces Life"; Belle Jones "Lorenzo Jones"
01-18-1902 - Helen Lynd - New Jersey - d. 4-1-1992
actor: Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"
01-18-1904 - Cary Grant - Bristol, England - d. 11-29-1986
actor: Jim Blandings "Mr. and Mrs. Blandings"
01-18-1906 - Ruth Lyon - Bloomington, IL - d. unknown
vocalist: "Romance Melodies"; "Words and Music"
01-18-1910 - Arthur Howard - London, England - d. 6-18-1995
actor: "Whack-O!)
01-18-1912 - Bob Sabin - Illinois - d. 1-15-1959
announcer: "Modern Romances"
01-18-1913 - Danny Kaye - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-3-1987
comedian: "Danny Kaye Show"
01-18-1914 - Rod O'Connor - Houston, TX - d. 5-5-1964
announcer: "Red Skelton Show"; "Duffy's Tavern"; "Count of Monte Cristo"
01-18-1915 - Bob Mosher - d. 12-15-1972
writer: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Henry Morgan Show"; "Harry Von Zell Show"
01-18-1915 - Lesley Midgley - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 6-19-2002
producer cbs news: "The Twentieth Century"
01-18-1918 - Peter Hobbs - Etretat, France - d. 1-2-2011
actor: "You Are There"
01-18-1918 - Richard Lane - Sydney, Australia - d. 2-20-2008
writer: "The Remittance Man"
01-18-1920 - Constance Moore - Sioux City, IA - d. 9-16-2005
singer, actor: Gloria Dean "Hollywood Mystery Time"
01-18-1920 - Sid Newman - California - d. 4-10-2001
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-18-1939 - David French - Canada
writer
January 18th deaths
01-14-1891 - Maurice Black - Queens, NY - d. 1-18-1938
tuba: "The Clicquot Club Eskimos"
01-27-1904 - Frankie Marvin - Butler, Indian Territory, Oklahoma - d.
1-18-1985
actor: "Gene Autry's Melody Rance"
02-04-1898 - Art Balinger - California - d. 1-18-1980
announcer: "Here Comes McBride"; "Mr. and Mrs. North"
02-23-1925 - Niels Robinson - d. 1-18-1994
actor: "Coast-to-Coast on a Bus"
03-09-1921 - Carl Betz - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-18-1978
disk jockey: WCAE Pittsburgh
03-13-1911 - James T. Quirk - d. 1-18-1969
announcer, station program director Philadelphia, PA
03-31-1918 - Charles Russell - NYC - d. 1-18-1985
actor: Johnny Dollar "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
04-04-1894 - Ed East - Bloomington, IN - d. 1-18-1952
actor, writer, pianist, composer: "The Ed East and Polly Show"
04-07-1895 - Bert Wheeler - Paterson, NJ - d. 1-18-1968
comedian: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "New Old Gold Show"
04-30-1894 - Vernon Bartlett - Westbury, Wiltshire, England - d.
1-18-1983
lecturer on foreign affairs
05-04-1896 - Dr. Frank Baxter - Camden, NJ - d. 1-18-1982
actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
05-07-1905 - George E. Stoll - Minneapolis, MN - d. 1-18-1985
orchestra: "Jack Oakie's College"; "Bing Crosby Show"; "Eddie Cantor
Show"
05-18-1913 - Charles Trenet - Creteil, France - d. 1-18-2001
singer: "Rudy Vallee Show"; "Discoparade"
06-12-1890 - Junius Matthews - Chicago, IL - d. 1-18-1978
actor: Grandpa Eph "David Harum"; Ling Wee "Gasoline Alley"
06-25-1893 - Charlotte Greenwood - South Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-18-1978
comedian: "Life with Charlotte Greenwood"; "Charlotte Greenwood Show"
07-04-1911 - Dwight Hauser - Idaho - d. 1-18-1969
producer, director: "Defense Attorney"; "I Fly Anything"; "Man from
Homicide"
07-09-1901 - Jester Hairston - Belews, NC - d. 1-18-2000
calypso singer: King Moses "Bold Venture"
08-16-1929 - Lois Nettleton - Oak Park, IL - d. 1-18-2008
actor: Patsy Dennis "Brighter Day"
09-02-1933 - James Villiers - London, England - d. 1-18-1998
actor: Roderick Spode "The Code of the Woosters"
09-18-1919 - Diana Lewis - Asbury, NJ - d. 1-18-1997
actor: "G. I. Journal"; "Radio's Reader Digest"
10-10-1920 - William David Adams - Chicago, IL - d. 1-18-1989
writer/producer: "Story of Franklin Delano Roosevelt"
10-28-1910 - Arthur Altman - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-18-1994
CBS staff violinist and librarian
10-30-1918 - Joan Banks - NYC - d. 1-18-1998
actor: Arline Harrison Manning, "Portia Faces Life"; Carlotta Lagorro
Armour, "Today's Children"
11-20-1916 - Virginia Verrill - Santa Monica, CA - d. 1-18-1999
blues singer: "The Jack Haley Show"; "Show Boat"; "Uncle Walter's
Doghouse"
11-21-1902 - Arthur Schutt - Reading, CA - d. 1-18-1965
pianist: "The Ipana Troubadors"
11-25-1899 - Kay Strozzi - Swan's Point Plantation, VA - d. 1-18-1996
actor: Shelia Blade "I Love Linda Dale"; Victoria Lorring "Young
Widder Brown"
11-30-1926 - Dick Crenna - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-18-2003
actor: Oogie Pringle, "A Date with Judy"; "Walter Denton, "Our Miss
Brooks"
12-15-1917 - Raymond Morgan - Utah - d. 1-18-1975
announcer: "Chandu, the Magician"; "Murder at Midnight"
12-27-1879 - Sidney Greenstreet - Sandwich, England - d. 1-18-1954
actor: Nero Wolfe "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; "Hollywood Star Preview"
12-30-1912 - Nancy Coleman - Everett, WA - d. 1-18-2000
actor: Alice Hughes "Young Dr. Malone"
12-xx-1889 - Elsie Mae Gordon - Anderson, IN - d. 1-18-1951
actor: (girl with a hundred voices) "When a Girl Marries"
Ron
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:08:04 -0500
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "Green Hornet" movie
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The recent "Green Hornet" movie, IMHO (in my humble opinion), is
an atrocity! At the very least, it should be termed a 'takeoff' from the
"Green Hornet" television series of the 60's, and nothing more. I've
heard the OTR program "The Green Hornet" and it is much better than
the movie. At least it gives you the feeling that something serious is
going on.
The movie is nothing more than a chance for comedians to utilize
their talents onscreen while dressed as this character.
As always,
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:08:13 -0500
From: Keith Houdeshell <khowdy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger broadcast
Reading the newest Radiogram, it stated that there were 3268 episodes
of the Lone Ranger. This is about four times as many as the Jack
Benny program which was on about the same number of years. How many
times a week was the Lone Ranger broadcast? I realize that if they
were on during the summer when Benny was on vacation it would account
for some, but not four times as many.
Keith
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