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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 254


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Restoration of ET's
	 Administrator from the planet Krypton?
	 [removed] Digest V96 Issue 250 (Resend)
	 Jackson Beck
	 Suggestions for OTR college course?
	 Thurl Ravenscroft and Jackson Beck
	 Superman
	  (Resend) Egg on my Face
	 Re: Jackson Beck as Tony the Tiger
	 Re: Moniter on NBC

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:11:50 -0400
From: acosentini@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Restoration of ET's
Message-ID: <1ee9bdf0@[removed]>

     In a past digest a question was posed about a 
     source of information concerning the 
     restoration of ET's. I don't know of a 
     listserve or digest that covers that topic.
     However if the poster or anyone needs 
     information or help with any and all old 
     recordings I'll be happy to give any 
     assistance I can. I've been in the field of 
     audio restoration for 15 years. So I think 
     I'm getting the hang of it. 8-)
     
     Adrian Cosentini
     Chief Audio Engineer
     Rodgers & Hammerstein Archives of Sound
     acosentini@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:14:25 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Administrator from the planet Krypton?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

<<<Just another service from your tireless administrator.

William Pfeiffer>>>

Suddenly, you're tireless?  You must share your secret with us! <g>
*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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"Man is that he might have joy," so
pull a prank on a co-worker today.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:21:03 -0500
From: lof@[removed] (Charlie Summers)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: [removed] Digest V96 Issue 250 (Resend)
Message-Id: <v02140b00ae1493074b62@[[removed]]>

At 2:29 PM 7/18/96, Bill P is rumored to have typed:

> Several people said they didnt get this issue, su here it is.  If you
> got it, I apologize for the duplicate.

   Actually, I was watching the FTP site since I didn't.

   Also didn't get 252, but unless there are bunches who didn't, I can pick
it up off the ftp area when you get it posted.

         Charlie

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:13:16 -0500
From: vintage@[removed] (Andy Blatt)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jackson Beck
Message-Id: <v01540b01ae14acc08869@[[removed]]>

Confidential to Mr. Weisberg:  I'll have to get back to [removed] have a copy
of "The Candidate"...Are you certain Jackson Beck did not appear in the
movie as the voice-over guy?

Someone mentioned Jackson Beck and the Frosted Flakes commercials.  Jackson
Beck is not the voice of Tony the Tiger.  Jackson Beck does the opening and
closing of the commercials.  The guy that does the Tony the Tiger voice (I
think) is the same guy who did the singing part in "How the Grinch stole
Christmas"...(Not the Grinch himself and the non-singing announcing part;
that was Boris Karloff).
Andy Blatt

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:23:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dan Hughes <dhughes@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Suggestions for OTR college course?
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I have been asked to put together a one-semester 3-credit college
sophomore-level course on the History of Broadcasting.  I would like some
help from the educators in this group.  I need suggestions for a textbook
(I have none newer than 1992).  I like Sterling/Head; is there a current
edition?  When I was in college we used Chester/Garrison/Willis (I'm
showing my age--that was in the 60's).  I've seen a later edition and I
felt they dropped a lot of important material.  And what IS important, by
the way?  I have pretty much free rein to construct the course as I see
fit, and I would love to have the imput of teachers who are already
teaching such a course. 

The course will cover (among other things) the social, economic, and legal
impact of broadcasting (US only), and I will be able to spend several
classes as "listen" sessions.  What shows do you recommend I play for my
students?  Time will be limited;  maybe compilations or samplers would be
more practical than entire programs.  I'm estimating ten to 15 hours of 
listening and watching (this course will cover TV too).

Please email me at      dhughes@[removed]

Thanks!      ---Dan

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:05:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: ulrich@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Thurl Ravenscroft and Jackson Beck
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In OTR Digest #250, [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>One last
>thing and I will shut up for awhile, The Voice over announcer who does
>the pizza adds is not the voice of Tony the Tiger in the Sugar Frosted
>Flakes adds.

Tony the Tiger is Thurl Ravenscroft. He also sang with Spike Jones
("Teenage Brain Surgeon") and Chuck Jones ("You're a Mean One, Mr.
Grinch"). And he was at one time a member of Jack Benny's Sportsmen
Quartet.

And mweisbe@[removed] (Weisberg, Mitch D) wrote:

>No.  Andy Blatt is wrong.  Jackson Beck was not "the voice" in Redford's
>1970's movie.  He was in a 1980's movie with Richard Gere.  I cannot
>remember the title offhand -  something like "The Pollster" or something.
> But definitely NOT "The Candidate".  The movie was about a company that
>performed PR for politicians.  Jackson Beck was the voice over for
>political ads.  He dressed in outlandishly loud clothes.

According to the article in Animato! that I mentioned a few days ago, the
film was entitled Power. It starred Richard Gere and Gene Hackman and was
released in 1986.

--Charles

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:17:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Superman
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: 15 Jul 1996 13:17:30 CST
> From: [removed]@[removed]
> To: otr@[removed]
> Subject: Brand names, superman, and ken's tape
> Message-Id: <m0ufs39-000YFQC@[removed]>
> 
> On another Superman related item, When did Superman start having more of
> the si-fi related encounters? The early ones on radio seem to have your
> more traditional villans.

I think that was so for the most part in the early 1950s TV show, too, as
well as the comics at that time.  The more science-fictional stories
gradually appeared more frequently in the comics in the late 1950s and
early 1960s and on the TV series in the last season or two.

> When did the crooks find out that Superman
> became weak whenever there was "kriptonite" around? 

I'm not sure exactly, but I've heard that it was on the radio show.  The
problem was that as Superman became more and more powerful, things were
too easy for him without a nemesis.  The next problem was that it didn't
seem plausible (at least in the 1940s) for Lois Lane always to be rescuing
Superman from kryptonite, and that was why Batman was brought into the
Superman radio series. 

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
======================================================================

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:46:28 -0400
From: jleasure@[removed] (John  Leasure)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:  (Resend) Egg on my Face
Message-Id: <v01510103ae14c2c2c3c8@[[removed]]>

Hello:

Boy am I [removed] think I sent my question regarding Issue 252 to the
[removed]  Also I didn't see the message regarding Issue 252 until
after I had sent the message mistakenly to the [removed] I said stupid.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

John Leasure
jleasure@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:46:12 -0500
From: usrtest <usrtest@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Jackson Beck as Tony the Tiger
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

[removed]@[removed] said:
> One last thing and I will shut up for awhile, The Voice over announcer
> who does the [Little Caesar's] pizza adds is not the voice of Tony the Tiger
> in the Sugar Frosted Flakes adds.

No, not Tony; the Sugar-Frosted ads that reveal the true confessions of 
dimly lit adults who still love sugar-frosted flakes.  The unseen 
interviewer/interrogater sounds like the Little Caesar's/Thompson's 
WaterSeal man to me.  Can anyone confirm that this is, as has been 
theorized, Jackson Beck?  It's been over 40 years - say around 1954 - 
but the voice reminds me of a character on a weeknight children's 
adventure show called *The Silver Eagle*.  The show opened with the sound 
of an arrow humming through the air and thudding into a tree, a sound very 
similar to the noise produced by allowing our spring-operated rear screen 
door to slam.  Don't remember much about the show other than that it was 
set in Canada, but I remember the gruff, gravely voice of the title 
character's French-Canadian sidekick Joe BeDough (I'm guessing at the 
spelling).  Was this the gentleman in question?  What other radio work did 
he do?

johnmayer@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:01:31 -0400
From: Francis Fisher <fisherf@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Moniter on NBC
Message-Id: <m0uhJka-000YAjC@[removed]>

From: JSEXTON@[removed]
>
> ...snip
>  What used to bug me (and still does) was the noisy interlude on Moniter
>that featured something like electronic beeps that were made to produce
>"almost" a [removed] this originally part of a record or something produced
>exclusively for the Moniter series?? The beeping noises were played in between
>[removed] Moniter was sort of a weekend magazine program that ran all
>weekend-and had many [removed] remember Barry Nelson,the actor,was one
>of it's [removed] anyone clear up the mystery of the "beeps"
>??? [removed] (JSEXTON@[removed])

The beacon was a series of pure tones (sine waves) of different pitches that
were recorded on reel tape. An engineer cut the tape and assembled pieces of
it into the beacon. The tape was dubbed to an ET. The ET recording process
distorted the tone so that each note had an "edge" and that took on an
acoustical property such that no one could recognize the sound for what it
was. It conjured up a "telstar" sound, a futuristic, space travel sort of
code that had a musical quality. 

Barry Nelson, Frank Blair, Gene Reynolds, David Wayne and Ed McMahon were
some of the hosts. (The announcers were people like Howard Reage, Don Pardo,
Bill Wendell, Fred Collins, Jerry Damon, Radcliff Hall & etc.) 

The program looked for an older audience. Program directors from the
affiliate stations, wanting a young audience that would spend money, felt as
if they were loaded with an albatross, which they were. The music on the
show, frequently show tunes, was out of place with 50s and 60s rock. Monitor
had celebrety interviews and the like. For the most part the features were
pre-produced but intros, outros, news and sports were always done live. 

Mel Allen did a lot of the sports and people like Al Capp did
comedy/commentary. Not everyone got a kick out of Al -- after the mid
sixties he was an outspoken hawk. And people always wanted the inside scoop
on why Mel Allen was fired as the voice of the NY Yankees.

Francis
____________________
Francis P. Fisher II
Dir of Engineering
WV Public Radio

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