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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 463


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Answers to trivia
	 GE SUPERADIO ALTERNATIVES?
	 testing list
	 issue 460
	 More Newsradio comments
	 FESTIVAL OF CHRISTMAS PROGRAMMING
	 Macabre
	 Clearly sung lyrics
	 Re: News from News Radio
	 Armed Forces Radio
	 WMAQ
	 Editing
	 You don't get off that easy *
	 VAUDEVILLE & XMAS DISPLAYS
	  WHA players reply
	 CRN & SNIFFLES
	 Archived, but not Sent

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 02:03:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Betty Jean Davis <betdav@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Answers to trivia
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Well, two persons knew the first two:
"Buzz me, Miz. Blue" - Andy of "Amos n' Andy"
"Coming, mother!" - Henry Aldrich

The third, ".....songs sung so plainly you can understand all the words" 
was the intro. to the "Manhattan Merry-Go-Round," a jolly program on NBC 
Sunday evenings. As I can recall, not all the words were clear, but the 
theme was, in part,

"Jump on the Manhattan Merry-Go-Round,
We're touring alluring New York Town,
Broadway to Harlem, a musical show,
Is ( ? ? ? ? ) on your radio,
With songs and ( ? ? ?) laughter,
A happy heart will follow after,
And we'd like to have you go with us
On the Manhattan Merry-Go-Round."

No one ventured a guess on #4, which was the opening theme for the 
"Carnation Contented Hour," NBC Monday nights. It was a real song prior 
to that, entitled, "Won't You Wait Till the Cows Come Home?"

NBC had some really great music programs in the 30s and 40s - the 
above-mentioned and the "American Album of Familiar Music." I wish there 
were some recorded remnants of these.  There was also the "Bell Telephone 
Hour" with its theme "The Bell Waltz" which Longines issued in a 
nostalgia album some 20 years ago.

Walter W. Davis
Corpus Christi Tx

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:11:28 -0500
From: mendosan@[removed] (Charles Stevenson)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: GE SUPERADIO ALTERNATIVES?
Message-Id: <v01510102acfec62ed249@[[removed]]>

Earlier this evening I found a GE Superadio for sale at a Best Buys store.
Given the good press it's gotten here, I was surprised and disappointed to
see how cheaply constructed it seemed.

Can anyone suggest a unit of similar performance, that's built more
substantially?  Drop me a line, please, off line at <mendosan@[removed]>.
Thanks, and Happy Holidays to you!

Charlie Stevenson
Reston, Virginia

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:56:53 -0600 (CST)
From: William Pfeiffer <rrb@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed] (Old Time Radio)
Subject: testing list
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Dont bother to reply to this, I am just testing the list.

William Pfeiffer
Moderator: [removed] RADIO JOURNAL
wdp@[removed]  *  wdp@[removed] * airwaves@[removed]
Web: [removed]~rrb/

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:29:37 -0600
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: issue 460
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Could someone be so good as to forward me a copy of OTR Digest issue 460? 
It didn't arrive for some reason.  Thank you.
John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 14:52:37 UT
From: "William Mize" <WilliamM_msp@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: More Newsradio comments
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I thought I'd expand a bit on what a previous poster mentioned about this 
show.  The crux of the joke was that Matthew (the nerdy/geek OTR fan) got a 
set of Fibber McGee and Molly tapes while his six co-workers got brand new 
cars (Miata's or something else sporty).  The co-workers were sure that 
Matthew was going to go berzerk; with him laughing this maniacal laugh and 
shouting "Don't open that closet McGee!".
   The co-workers finally approached the wealthy station owner (who was 
responsible for the gifts) and asked him to talk to Matthew regarding his 
gift.  What Matthew didn't understand was that the station owner gave him 
Fibber McGee and Molly.  He owned the rights to the show and he GAVE Matthew 
the rights to Fibber McGee and Molly.  Then Matthew's attitude changes and he 
starts envisioning Fibber McGee and Molly lunchboxes, video games and the 
[removed] :>
   Very enjoyable.

  - Bill

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 9:56:28 -0500
From: "MACHARG, KEN" <kmacharg@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: FESTIVAL OF CHRISTMAS PROGRAMMING
Message-ID: <3371D930017E1B00@[removed]>

     With best wishes to each and every one, here is a list of our 
remaining programs for Christmas which involve drama, or something 
close to the style of Old Time Radio. Merry Christmas! 


              HCJB FESTIVAL OF CHRISTMAS PROGRAMMING

     HCJB, The Voice of the Andes is proud to offer the following 
special Christmas programs for your enjoyment. 

Saturday, December 23 
      Music special "Music at the Ranch", a hand-clapping hour with 
Christmas music, Country and Western style featuring the Flying W 
Wranglers and special guest Paul Overstreet. Produced in front of a 
live audience.            
      7:30 and 17:00 UTC to Europe, 9:00 to the South Pacific, 1:00 and 
5:00 UTC Sunday (Saturday night local time) to the Americas.

Sunday, December 24  
     Drama "The Christmas Carol," the traditional 1939 version of 
Charles Dickens' famous classic. Brief commentary following the program 
by Rob Quiring and Brian MacHarg
     7:30 and 17:00 UTC to Europe, 9:00 to the South Pacific, 1:00 and 
5:00 UTC Monday, (Sunday night local time) to the Americas.

December 25  
     Drama "Christmas comes To Pleasant Hill". Set at the turn of the 
century, "Christmas Comes to Pleasant Hill" traces the consternation of 
a quaint town with its most unlovable citizen, Bertha Wiley. After 
living a life of bitterness and misery, Bertha is forced to take in a 
young girl orphaned by the death of her father. She comes to terms with 
someone whose love and concern overshadows her bitterness. 
     7:00 and 17:00 UTC to Europe, 9:00 UTC to the South Pacific, 1:00 
and 5:00 UTC Tuesday (Monday evening local time) to the Americas. 

Monday, December 25  
      The Messiah.  George Fredrick Handel's classic composition 
featured in this traditional Christmas Day broadcast on HCJB. 
     12:00-14:30 UTC

HCJB - THE VOICE OF THE ANDES - QUITO, ECUADOR


                  HCJB TRANSMISSION SCHEDULE
ENGLISH    00:30-05:00  9745   [removed]   100    351
           05:00-07:00  9745   [removed]   100    324
           07:00-08:30  6050   Europe        250    035
           07:00-11:30  5900   [removed]     100    215
           11:00-15:00  12005  Caribbean     100    043
           11:30-14:30  15115  N/S America   50/50  353/160   
           14:30-16:00  15115  [removed]     100    139
           17:00-20:00  15540  Europe        100    042

English@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:13:58 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Macabre
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,

Just yesterday, I noticed that the Radio Spirits catalog has all eight 
Macabre shows. So we have at least 2 sources for this series. Since Radio
Spirits charges almost 7 bucks a tape, I think I'll stick with Ed Carr at
$[removed] per tape :-).  Radio Spirits titles and dates are the same as posted
in my log. 

I received the set just after posting the log and have listened to four so
far. They are not badly crafted. I wouldn't place them on a list of great
shows, but they are a good listen.

Frank

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:29:22 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Clearly sung lyrics
Message-ID: <951221102922_96193969@[removed]>

Several comments about the show that had "top songs of the week sung so
clearly you can understand every word and sing thewm yourself."  It was
Manhattan Merry-Go-Round and was produced by Frank and Anne Hummert, they of
soap opera fame.  The program ran for more than 15 years and Frank Hummert
selected the songs from sheet music and record sales figures, making it a
"Hit Parade" type of show.  They would pretend to be attending different New
York night clubs, but the cast was always in a studio.  Ford Bond was
announcer for most of the run of the program and the longest term sponsor was
Dr. Lyon's Tooth Powder.  It started in 1933 and lasted until 1949.  In the
Big Broadcast book Frank Buxton and Bill Owen said the lyrics were supposed
to be clear but they had trouble figuring out the third and fourth lines of
the theme.  They finally decided the whole thing was supposed to be:
   "Jump on the Manhattan Merry-Go-Round
   We're touring alluring old New York town
   Broadway to Harlem a musical show
   The orchestra tunes up to your radio
   We're serving music, fun and laughter
   A happy heart will follow after.
   And we'd like to have you all with us
   On the Manhattan Merry-Go-Round."
In his book, Tune In Yesterday, John Dunning was listening with a different
ear.  He said line four was:
   "The orchids that you rest at your radio."
And that lines five and six were:
   "We're serving music, songs, and laughter,
   Your happy heart will follow after."
All in all, it wasn't bad and I guess I'll have to get out a couple of
examples I have and see how the lyrics sound to me. 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:41:45 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: News from News Radio
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

Kubelski@[removed] (Sean Dougherty) writes:
>The television show, "News Radio" (NBC, Tuesday 8:30 [removed]) inlcuded an OTR
>joke in yesterday's episode.
>
>One of the reporters, Matthew, was revealed to be an OTR-fan.  Of course, he
>had to be the office nerd/wimp/loser, but just the same.
>
>For his Christmas bonus his boss gave him a set of "Fibber McGee and Molly"
>tapes which he spent the rest of the episode listening to on his headphones.

Sean, didn't you watch all the way to the end of the episode? You left out
the best part!

It was a major plot point: the somewhat absent-minded, short-attention-span
but fabulously-wealthy station owner Jimmy James presents a 32-hour set of
Fibber McGee & Molly tapes to Matthew, but gives six Mazda Miata convertibles
to the rest of the staff. Major concern sets in as Matthew finally comes to
the realization that everyone else is whizzing around in free cars while he
is stuck (paraphrasing), "listening to some old dead people and stuff falling
out of a closet." Quite a letdown from his initial excitement, since he's
known to be a big fan of OTR.

But Jimmy James reappears at last, to convey a small point that he forgot to
mention to Matthew earlier: He gave Matthew not just tapes of the show; he
gave Matthew the _show_. Jimmy owned the rights to "Fibber McGee & Molly",
and has now given them to Matthew, who is free to license tapes, T-shirts,
and everything else as he sees fit. Total value, somewhat more than a Miata!

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Adobe Systems, Inc. (formerly Frame Technology)
Advanced Product Services
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:28:45 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Armed Forces Radio
Message-ID: <951221122843_96280598@[removed]>

I've had an unusual request from a long-time broadcasting friend who does not
have a computer.  He was with the Far East Network of Armed Forces Radio in
1951-'52.  At one time or another he was chief announcer, program director
and even acting manager.  He would love to get in touch with anyone else who
happened to be involved there in that time period.  Without a computer, of
course, it will have to be done with snailmail.  His name and address:
     Merwin Smith
     660 St. Paul Street
     Denver, CO 80206
Any help will be appreciated.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:00:50 -0800
From: MikeTimble@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: WMAQ
Message-ID: <951221100049_20960557@[removed]>

WMAQ is inconsistent with it's OTR broadcasts because of Bull's broadcasts.
Normally, When Radio Was is broadcast at 11 PM. Any night a Bull's game is
played, WMAQ has sports coverage until midnight. Then, at midnight, When
Radio Was is played. 

If you're taping, just check the sports page to see when games are. If you're
from outside of Chicago, your sports page should still have a listing of
upcoming games for the next few days or so. So, adjust your schedule
accordingly.

Mike Timble

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 11:03:49 PST
From: seh@[removed] (Stan Harter)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Editing
Message-Id: <m0tSqBO-000YNGC@[removed]>

Amen to these pet peeves!:
1. NEVER edit out commercials or anything else!
2. Never chop or edit applause. Give me two versions of ANY music, one
recorded in a studio and the other recorded in a live audience setting: 
I'll take the "crowd" version every time.  :-)

Mele Kalikimaka e Ha'ole Makahiki Ha'o!

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:38:54 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: You don't get off that easy *
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

God, I love this Lone Ranger stuff. Who started it anyway? They have my
eternal gratitude.

Who played the Ranger and when? I used David Rothel's interview with Jim
Jewell as my source. I think it's the most reliable we have available to
us. Prior to Rothel's book writers had two prime sources of information
concerning the Masked Rider of the Plains. A 1939 Saturday Evening Post
article that quotes George W. Trendle (this was apparently Jim Harmon's
source) and the authorized biography of Mr. Trendle by Mary E. Bickel.

One thing I think we should all bear in mind when discussing these
various aspect of the Lone Ranger. WXYZ was a very small station back
in 1933 but it spawned some collossal egos. Trendle, Jewell and Beemer
are good examples.

Who played the Ranger first? George Seaton told David Rothel that he
did and Jim Jewell confirms it. Jewell also said that Jack Deeds had the
role for two shows when Seaton quit and before Earle Graser got the job.
During this period Beemer was the announcer for the Lone Ranger but he
and Jewll didn't get along with one another. Since Jewell was the director
and calling the shots I doubt very much that Beemer ever played the role
in the 30's.

The only thing left to say is; The Lone Ranger IS Old Time Radio!

* This message was originally sent in time to make digest #460, which now

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:11:56 -0500
From: celtic@[removed] (Stuart Joseph)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: VAUDEVILLE & XMAS DISPLAYS
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:15:50 -0500
>From: MTPawckett@[removed]

I'm still interested in finding more
>vaudeville on otr, so if you know of any, please email me at
>MTPawckett@[removed]  Thanks.
*****************************************************************
How about movies? Turner Classic Movies shows a lot of early musicals that
are straight out of 20's/30's vaudeville and Broadway, some of them are
nothing more than filmed numbers, where all they did was set up a camera in
a long shot and filmed the action on stage (sounds like early TV took a
lesson from them). The films featured vaudeville and stage performers since
they had acts that were ready made, all the studio had to do was film them.
TCM also shows shorts that featured vaudeville performers (and others). The
shorts are used as fillers at the end of the regular movie to round out the
time until the next show.
******************************************************

>
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:49:27 EST
>From: VULM45A@[removed] ( ROBERT W PAINE)
 
> I listened to a FM&M Christmas program the other day and enjoyed it
>infinitely more than anything - Christmas or otherwise - on TV. The
>little kid put it best when he said he liked radio because "the
>pictures are better". Somehow, the image of Fibber and Molly going into
>a hardware store to buy several hundred feet of electrical wire,
>sockets, three-hundred assorted colored lights, a dozen pairs of pliers,
>a couple step-ladders and goodness knows what else, just doesn't
>translate to the visual medium. 
> Sorry TV. I love you but radio is the superior means of entertainment.
>It's not your fault - you just can't compete with the magic paintbrush
>of the imagination.
**************************************************************
You are right and I have noticed that TV agrees with you, at least as far as
Christmas displays are concerned! On Roseanne and Home Improvement when the
characters are discussing their respective displays, the displays themselves
are never shown. Instead, we see bits and pieces before they are put up, but
the final product is left to the viewers imagination- helped along with
bright lights (like those in Sci-Fi movies depicting alien space craft).
Stuart

_________________________________________________________________
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ONE AND ALL!
Stuart Joseph 
Celtic Cultures
RR 2 Box 164 Houghton Brook Road
Putney, VT 05346 [removed]
(802) 387-KILT (5458)
e-mail: celtic@[removed]
Web page: [removed]~celtic/

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Date:     Thu, 21 Dec 1995 14:24 CST
From: ZENCHC@[removed] (Chris Zenchenko, 7-3543)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:  WHA players reply
Message-Id: <m0tSrYL-000YLQC@[removed]>

The WHA Players was a generic name given to productions done by college
students at the University of Wisconsin Madison.  Programs and the name
happened over 30 or more years and were done on tape and disks depending
on the times.  Most productions were of the classics.  Unfortunately WHA
does not even have copies of the shows.  They found only one from the
late 1940s.  The rest are somewhere buried in boxes at the Wisconsin
Historical Society.
People interested in early radio should note that WHA is one of the
oldest stations in the country.  It got it's start during WW I as a navy
station.  It is also host of what is likely the longest running daily
reading program in radio history.  Chapter A DAY has been reading novels
and stories since the 1920s and is still on every week day with a
chapter or so.

73

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 14:54:18 -0500
From: celtic@[removed] (Stuart Joseph)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: CRN & SNIFFLES
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:20:06 -0800
>From: Platecap@[removed]
    CRN is heard on Satcom C-5 and is free to all stations.
*****************************************************************
For those of us with C-Band Satellite dishes, is it possible for us to
receive the broadcasts?
If the answer is yes, could you give the transponder # and wheteher or not
it is a sub-audio carrier.
Thanks.
******************************************************
NEXT TOPIC: "I BETCHA" and "WHATCHA DOING, MISTER?"

I seem to remember that these tag lines were also used by Sniffles the Mouse
in Warner Bros. cartoons- am I right?

_________________________________________________________________
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ONE AND ALL!
Stuart Joseph 
Celtic Cultures
RR 2 Box 164 Houghton Brook Road
Putney, VT 05346 [removed]
(802) 387-KILT (5458)
e-mail: celtic@[removed]
Web page: [removed]~celtic/

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 16:09:54 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Archived, but not Sent
Message-ID: <951221160953_20901824@[removed]>

Hi Gang -              December 21 - 1995 -- Friday 3PM cst

My thanks to everybody who sent comments regarding 
whether or not to have an Amos and Andy re-creation at
the 1996 FOTR convention.  Your comments have been 
printed and forwarded (by regular mail) to the planning 
committee. 

ARCHIVED, BUT NOT SENT ---  The following is a posting
I submitted for issue 460, which was not sent.   If 460 should
arrive later, I apologize for the duplicate posting:

Hi Gang -                       December 19 - 1995 -- Tuesday 2:30 PM cst 

Recently somebody mentioned "The Comic Weekly Man".  For those readers
who don't already know, it was Lon Clark who played the Comic Weekly 
Man.  This is the Same Lon Clark who played Nick Carter, Master Detective.
Puck, The Comic Weekly (the funnies) appeared in many newspapers, and the
Comic Weekly Man, who read the funnies on the radio, was heard on many 
radio stations.  The program was syndicated on ETs which were mailed to 
the stations.  In order for the discs to arrive in time to be broadcast at 
the same time the Sunday papers arrived at the news stands, the program 
had to be recorded well ahead of time.  Lon said that he worked from the 
black-and-white drawings (pencil sketches?) of the comics before they were 
printed in color.  I asked him who played the part of "Miss Honey" and he 
told me - but I forgot.   Does anybody remember who that was? 

----- New Topic --------

Take It or Leave It - Phil Baker's Quiz show, gave away $64. 
The correct answer to the first question was worth $1.  The correct answer
to the second question was worth $2.  The next was $4, then $8, then $16,
then $32.  The "$64 Question" was the last question.  If the contestant 
missed a question, he/she would lose whatever money was won thus far. 
So - given the choice to stop at $32 or try for $64, most contestants 
would try for $64 - at this point the audience would shout: "You'll be 
SORRRRY".  In time the program name was changed from "Take It or Leave It" 
to "The $64 Question" - Probably because that's what most people called it 
anyway.

----- New Topic  ------

"First in Wherever" 
I wish I remember the town - In the 1960's radio stations were very 
ratings conscious.  They used such phrases as "Indiana's Number One 
Station" as part of their station break.   I was visiting a small station
in a rather large town during this period of time.  There were at least
three other stations in town, all competing with each other for ratings.
The station I was visiting had far few listeners than the other stations.
When the announcer made his station break he said, "This is W---, First 
in (wherever)".  Afterwards I asked him how he could say "First" when 
the station's ratings were lower than any of the others.  He said, 
"We were here in 1926". 

------ New Topic ------

<moo> - I believe Walter Davis' trivia question contained the words to
"Contented", the theme song of the "Carnation Contented Hour". 
(but I could be wrong)

------ New Topic ------

Your Hit Parade had a number of male singers over the years.  According 
to John Dunning's book, Tune In Yesterday, they include:
Buddy Clark, Lanny Ross, Barry Wood, Frank Sinatra, Lawrence Tibbett, 
Dick Todd, Johnny Mercer, Dick Haymes, and Andy Russell.  I hope one of
these name will ring a bell with Stan Harter.  I'm sure all of the above
made recordings. 

----- Last Topic -----

I'll bet that if enough of us wrote to WMAQ and asked them to schedule 
"When Radio Was" to a fixed time (like Midnight), they might consider it.

----- That's All for a While  -----

Happy Taping - Ken Piletic -- Streamwood, Illinois
kenpiletic@[removed] 

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