Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #341
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/31/2002 9:03 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 341
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Holiday For Strings                   [ JPurc64093@[removed] ]
  Re: Reading Letters                   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Customs of the 40's                   [ "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed] ]
  Car Sound Effect                      [ "Scott Eberbach" <seberbach@earthli ]
  Boombox alternative                   [ Frank Kendall <efkendall@[removed]; ]
  Jerry Haendiges                       [ "Scott Eberbach" <seberbach@earthli ]
  Re: Archos Jukebox                    [ Michael Mewborn <mmewborn@designgro ]
  Shamrock Hotel in Houston             [ JamesAltenburg@[removed] ]
  free old-time movie poster            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Advertising brand names               [ "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@hotmail. ]
  Standard School Broadcasts            [ "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@hotmail. ]
  More on Robert Q.                     [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
  John and Martha                       [ loviglio <loviglio@[removed]; ]
  Re: Influence of advertising          [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:18:39 -0400
From: JPurc64093@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Holiday For Strings

There are two items I would like to list: 1. I would love to contribute to
the cause with money but I hate PayPal and the feeling seems mutual. Please
advise as to how another way I can sent money. You (and other web vendors)
should have a talk with PayPal about their site, It is NOT usuer friendly!.
2. There was piece of music written by David Rose entitled "Holiday fro
Strings." I know it was used as the theme for the old day-time Gary Moore
Show and for the Red Skelton TV show, but it was used on other shows also.
Does anyone know what shows?

John Purchase
John Purchase

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:19:38 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Reading Letters

On 8/30/02 10:37 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

My question is who originated this device of reading letters on
the air?

This is an ancient comedy device, and was widely used in vaudeville long
before radio -- it was a favorite format for comic monologists around the
turn of the century, and probably has its antecedants in literary humor
that used the letter form -- the "Letters of Artemus Ward" and similar
sorts of humorous essays.

Because it's such an old gimmick, it's hard to say who was the first to
do it on radio -- but Correll and Gosden were certainly using this device
as early as 1926, when Sam's frequent letters from his girlfriend Liza
down in Birmingham were a regular feature of "Sam 'n' Henry." Correll and
Gosden used the letter-reading device not simply for comedy, but as a way
of expounding plot developments -- Liza only appeared on mike once during
the entire two-year run of S&H, but she was still a regular character
thru the medium of her letters -- thru her correspondence with Sam,
listeners heard her eventually throw Sam over for a smooth-talking
Pullman porter, leaving Sam determined to win her back.

The use of letter-reading in "Sam 'n' Henry" prefigured its later use in
"Amos 'n' Andy," in which letters were often used as a way of giving
direct voice to female characters, allowing them to deliver speeches that
could not easily be conveyed thru third-person exposition or one-sided
telephone conversations. In this way, the "reading letters" technique was
already well established in radio long before the Broadway/vaudeville
school of comedians found their way into broadcasting.

Elizabeth

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:30:12 -0400
From: "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Customs of the 40's

Hello all,
I was playing a Great Gildersleves from sometime in 1948. In the show it was
stated that a woman could ask a man for his hand only in a leap year. I also
ran into this Burma Shave ad from 1949

Leap year's over
You're safe, men
All you cowards
Can shave again
With brushless
Burma-Shave

My question is how long was it a custom and about when did it stop??

Thanks

Chris

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:50:49 -0400
From: "Scott Eberbach" <seberbach@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Car Sound Effect

Hi All!
I too have wondered what that little sound is right before the sound of the
[removed] repeated listening what it sounds like is the skid/blowout of a
[removed] the [removed] sound is sort of a "burp" similar to the sound
of airplane when the tires of the landing gear first hit the deck when
coming in for a landing.  Just my 2 [removed]

Scott

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:50:37 -0400
From: Frank Kendall <efkendall@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Boombox alternative

For those of you looking for a way to hear OTR on a
boombox I have found the perfect, I think, alternative
and it is way less expensive. Best Buy sells an item
called the SOUNDFEEDER from Akron Resources, Inc.,
Arcadia, CA. in their CD player section. The model #
is sf120 and it sells for $[removed] You connect it to
your MP3 player (any type)through the headphone port
and adjust your FM receiver (home, car, boombox,
etc.)to hear the resulting signal. The instructions
are simple and my experience so far has been great
having listed to OTR through my home, my car and a
non-MP3 playing boombox I already owned.

If you are not fortunate enough to have a Best Buy
near you, Radio Shack sells a similar item for $[removed]
I have no experience with it though.

Frank Kendall

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:16:24 -0400
From: "Scott Eberbach" <seberbach@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jerry Haendiges

I too would like to comment on Jerry's [removed] have done business with
him in the past and always found his service swift and reliable.  I am also
pleased with his play then pay policy.  In fact that was the deciding factor
when considering him as a source for OTR.  On one order he advised me after
I placed it that it would take him a little longer than the usual week as he
was backed up with [removed] believe the order arrived in only two weeks!
I haven't done any business with him (or any other dealer) recently due to
my un-employed status; however, as soon as that issue is resolved you can
rest assured that I will being doing business with Jerry again!

Best [removed]

Scott

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:17:36 -0400
From: Michael Mewborn <mmewborn@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Archos Jukebox

Popular Mechanics magazine has an article in the Sept. issue about a MP3
player called the Archos Jukebox that has a 20 GB hard drive  that will
hold several hundred hours of mp3's.  Does anyone know if this machine will
work for our purposes  of playing OTR?  The magazine article was not clear
on that.         Keith

I have had an Archos Jukebox for nearly a year now and it works extremely well for
OTR. The USB interface is slow to transfer the programs to the device, but then it
plays them without a hitch usually. I started with the 6GB model but soon got the
20GB model and gave the other to my wife for audiobooks and the like. It also works
very well for music.

I load hundreds of programs on it, put it on scramble play and have many hours of
effortless listening. My primary complaint is that when you stop a program in the
middle and want to resume at a later time, you must start from the beginning. It
remembers where you were but not the precise location within the program.

I haven't found any bitrate or sample rate it won't handle.

Michael

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:17:53 -0400
From: JamesAltenburg@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Shamrock Hotel in Houston
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The Shamrock Hotel was built in 1948-49 and had it's grand opening on St.
Patrick's Day in 1949.  That was the date of the infamous remote of The
Sealtest Variety Theater, a weekly half hour program with Dorothy Lamour as
it's singing hostess that journeyed from Hollywood to Houston for the event.

Far more guests for the audience showed up than there was room for and the
result was sheer chaos -- all heard by millions across the country. An
apparent foul up in the control room caused a muffled distant program to go
out over NBC's national network although you can hear clearly an
engineer/producer's phone conversation with a telephone operator repeating
over and over again, "He isn't here, I'll take the call operator," which
includes a burst of profanity to override the actual broadcast.

Finally, the network cut back to New York or wherever and played recorded
music for a few minutes and when they returned Dorothy Lamour was in the
middle of a short sketch with guest Van Heflin.  I found it interesting that
the next week when the show returned to California they repeated the sketch
in its entirety, this time with guest
David Niven reading the part that Van Heflin had the previous week.

But back to Houston on that fateful March 17th evening.  The audience
clamored loudly throughout the broadcast and it tuned into sheer bedlam with
guest Ed Gardner of Duffy's Tavern interrupting Dorothy Lamour's line in
their sketch "Van, you were going to ask Archie something weren't you?"  Ed
Gardner (Duffy) replies, "Wait, just a minute Dottie, you know somebody's
going to ask me something, nothing is going on.  People are milling around
here, the PA system don't work -- "  Lamour interrupts, "Well, the people on
the air will hear us."  Back to Gardner -- "They're not going to laugh anyhow
because they're all looking at all the big movie stars around here."

It is a classic of what can and did go wrong with live broadcasts.  And that
is what I think of when I hear about the Shamrock Hotel.

Jim Alton
WKAT Miami 1964-1979

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:31:44 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  free old-time movie poster

Although this is not directly linked with OTR, it is nostalgic so I figured
to pass this on to any interested parties.

MGM Studios is taking an on-line poll so they can have an idea of what to
release in the future, primarily old horror/sci-fi films.
They are giving away a free movie poster to anyone who takes three minutes
to answer their questions (such as how many DVDs you own, what magazines you
subscribe, if you have any MGM films on video at your house, etc.)

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The movie poster depicts images of old horror movies from the fifties, and
it's free!
(There is one note of interest - there is a section that asks what magazines
you read - if anyone has ever browsed the pages of SCARLET STREET or
FILMFAX, please mention so.  By no means, don't lie if you have never read
those two magazines, but if you have or occassionally glance through the
issues, please don't forget to mention [removed])

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:30:41 -0400
From: "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Advertising brand names

Hi again,

How about Vaseline for (petroleum jelly or petrolatum)?

jay

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 14:00:18 -0400
From: "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Standard School Broadcasts

Hi All,

Does anyone remember the Standard School Broadcasts?  In the 40's at our
school in Pasadena we used to listen to these every thursday morning at 10
[removed] of KFI in [removed]  In the 60's I had the pleasure of recording these shows
for Standard Oil with Carmen Dragon conducting the music.  These were very
interesting, informative and educational shows on many different topics.
Are any of these still in existence and were these only heard in California?

Jay

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:26:55 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  More on Robert Q.

Fred Berney remembers when the subbing Robert Q. Lewis featured a
character whom he called Robert Rosebusy on his stints as Godfrey's
replacement every summer.  I thought I must be the only one alive still
remembering that.  Actually, Lewis would turn it into a freelance
commercial for a mythical "rosebushes" product and drag out every mention
of that as "rosebusheses."  He would do it every single day!  It was so
comical that my whole family picked up on it and for years and years
beyond that time we referred to the "rosebusheses" out in our yard!  What
powerful influence Robert [removed] radio--had on our lives!

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:13:45 -0400
From: loviglio <loviglio@[removed];
To: OldRadio Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  John and Martha

I am writing with a query.  A friend of mine asked me if I had ever heard of
a radio program the consisted entirely of a woman saying the name "John" and
a man responding with the name "Martha" in varying tones and moods.  He
thought this might have been a spoof on otr soap operas, but wasn't sure. If
none of you have heard of this, then I can be reasonably certain that it
never existed.
Thanks.

Jason Loviglio
Loviglio@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:11:43 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re:  Influence of advertising

Jer51473@[removed] asked:

Along these same lines does anyone recall
products that were marketed so well that people actually replaced the type
of product with a companys brand name?

To this day vacuum cleaners in England are referred to as "Hoovers"

Meanwhile, back home in the USA . . . .
Band-Aids
Jello
Scotch Tape
Jacuzzi
Kitty Litter

~~Irene

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