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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 383

Table Of Contents: 

	 addendum to Roma
	 Lone Ranger Narrator
	 Objection??
	 Coffee Nerves?
	 Jack Kirkwood
	 Lang-Worth Syndication
	 The Lone Ranger - round #4
	 Weekly OTR Website Update
	 Paladin
	 Re: LONE RANGER's first name
	 Missing Roma Wines
	 Another Recurring Familiar Voice
	 Looking for a Jack Benny [removed]

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 96 11:40 CDT
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: OTR@[removed]
Subject: addendum to Roma
Message-Id: <m0vBO9j-000k0hC@[removed]>

Per Ted Davenport,
>When dinner wines from California and France
>began to take over the market in the late 60's and early 70's Roma pretty
>much gave up because their primary sales were in Sherries and Ports which
>pretty much died out about this time.  

   We had some brief discussion of this some months back, and I noted that
listening to Suspense at any length would give one the idea that the only
wines Americans drank in those days were port and sauterne.  (How long's it
been since you've seen a sauterne?)

>Trying to find a bottle of Roma wine
>would be like giving your local Blue Coal dealer a call.

   Yes.  On the other hand, you can still find Petri wines in some pockets
of the country, or at least you could in the 1980s - generally in gallon
jugs.

John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:01:34 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <michaelcarraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger Narrator
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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SanctumOTR@[removed] wrote:

> Speaking of Gerald Mohr -- Wasn't he the narrator of THE LONE RANGER
> television series? -- Anthony Tollin
> 

Gerald Mohr apparently narrated the TV Lone Ranger during the first
season.  Another narrator -- with a somewhat similar voice -- is heard
in later Trendle episodes.  Does anyone know who the second TV narrator
was and know anything about him?

Dick Osgood in Wixie Wonderland says Fred Foy returned to the WXYZ
announcing staff in 1944 briefly and then attempted to make it in
Hollywood.  He returned to WXYZ after six months.  Does anyone know when
Foy took over as narrator of the Lone Ranger (apparently sometime in
1945 or 1946) and who were the narrators before him?

Also a comment on the differences in Brace Beemer and Clayton Moore's
depictions of the Lone Ranger character.  Beemer always seemed more of
an old testament Lone Ranger, a hero of wrath and vengence fueled by the
massacre of his brother and commrades.  In some ways, his Ranger
reminded me of the classic Batman, driven by the murders of his
parents.  Moore portrayed a kinder, gentler Lone Ranger -- and also one
not so larger than life.  His motives seemed less clear:  He was the
Lone Ranger and this is what he did.  Almost as though he had inherited
the job (like the Phantom), or came to it through circumstance (like
Superman).

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:05 CDT
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Objection??
Message-Id: <m0vBOY2-000k37C@[removed]>

Joe Wright asked:
>Am I the only one who already has most, if not all, the other Benny
>Christmas shows, and now objects to paying close to thirty dollars to get
>this particular episode?

I don't know, but I'm certainly amazed and bemused by the fact that so many
enthusiasts long for, yearn for, say they will die for the chance to hear
or own something that's been "lost" or otherwise unavailable - then, when
wishes are fulfilled and dreams come true, someone throws cold water on it
by finding fault with the price, the packaging, etc.
The same thing is happening over on another newsgroup I read - people
proclaim "We Want More!" then when they get more they say "Ripoff!  I'm not
buying this!"

I wouldn't quarrel with anyone's right to buy or not buy whatever they
want, but I don't much like the wet-blanket part of it.

 
John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:49:12 -0500
From: Joe Oliver <joliver@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Coffee Nerves?
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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> Trying to find a bottle of Roma wine
would be like giving your local Blue Coal dealer a call.  

Hey, but you can still buy Postum.  I'm thinking of burning it for heat.:)



W. Joseph Oliver
Department of Communication
Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, TX  75962

     (409-468-4001)

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:58:07 -0700
From: Jim Kitchen <jkitchen@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio Digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Jack Kirkwood
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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I remember listening to the Jack Kirkwood Show, a half hour program at
1:00 pm on the West Coast.  This was probably early Fifties.  I believe
it was a Mutual Network show.   

One of Jack's characters was "The Seagull" a takeoff on the detective
stores of the time.  The Seagull and his Assistant were on their way to
the crime scene:

Seagull: How much gas do we have?
Assistant: Half a tank.
Seagull: Is that half full, or half empty!

Pretty corny, but I've remembered it all these years.  

Jim Kitchen

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:31:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Pellatt" <bs206@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lang-Worth Syndication
Message-ID: <[removed]@sheppard>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Does anyone know anything about Lang-Worth syndication service?

An educational institution near me was recently given hundreds of these 
transcription discs by a family of a deceased musician.

There are a few dozen large red audition discs, thin, see thru plastic, 
most Alan Jones Show (who was he?) but also hundreds of clear see thru 
blue plastic records, the size of 45s but clearly radio transcription 
discs to be played at 33 1/3rpm. 

I am looking at one chosen at random. COLLECTORS ITEM: COUNT BASIE 
recorded 1944 (altho I think this had to come out later).

Are these valuable? Rare? Historically significant? Or so overly 
distributed they mean very little?

Any help or thoughts appreciated!

JOHN PELLATT
bs206@[removed]
Toronto, Canada

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:14:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger - round #4
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

How familiar does this sound?

A small band of Texas Rangers is sent to wipe out a band of dreaded, hooded
riders known as "The Night Legion". Instead, through the betrayal of a man
the Rangers had befriended the Night Legion surrounds their camp. Expert
killers poured a withering fire on the lawmen. To a man they fell while
the laughing killers took their horses.

Later, Fate brings Tonto the Indian to the scene of the massacre. Tonto
finds one Ranger with a spark of life left in him. Tonto carries the
wounded Ranger to a cave and there tenderly nurses him back to health,

Knowing that the Night Legionnaires would mark him as a Texas Ranger if
they saw his face, he masked it. From that moment on, his sole mission in
life was to avenge the death of his comrades and wipe out the hooded menace
that seemed to grow in power since the battle. As he and Tonto searched for
the key men of the Night Legion they found other chances to aid the cause
of justice.

No one but Tonto knew his true background, and even Tonto didn't know his
name.

This is basically the origin story of The Lone Ranger as related in the
pages of "The Lone Ranger and the Mystery Ranch" by Fran Striker and
copyrighted in 1938. Striker used a condensed version of the story early
in several more of his Lone Ranger novels written between 1938 and 1940.
The traitor, the cowardly attack, Tonto, the cave. They're all there.

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:34:20 -0700
From: "JACK MANN" <jmann@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Weekly OTR Website Update
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Hello Digesters: Here's the weekly update of my OTR URL list.
If anyone out there knows of an OTR related Web page that is 
not on this list, please Email me. [removed]

Jack

Jack's List of OTR Internet URL's

All URL's in this list begin with:   http://   EXCEPT when preceded by asterisk (*)
     
     Abbott & Costello Home Page - [removed]
Adventures in Cassettes - [removed]
Airwaves Media Page - [removed]
Antique Radio Classifieds - [removed]
Atlanta Radio Theater Co. - [removed]
Audionet Classic Radio - [removed]
BBC Shows - [removed]
BBC World Service - [removed]
Becker Internet Group - [removed]
Bellingham Antique Radio Museum - antique-radio-[removed]
Big Radio - [removed]~[removed]
Bob Hope - [removed]
Bob Hope - [removed]
Boston Radio Archives - [removed]
     BRC Productions - [removed]
Broadcast History - [removed]~rfs/
Broadcasting in Chicago: 1921-1989 - [removed]~[removed]
Broadcasting Related Websites - [removed]~[removed]
CBC Radio Drama - [removed]
Charlie Laughlin's OTR Page - [removed]
Classic Old Time Radio - [removed]
Classic Radios - [removed]
     Commercial Catalogs - [removed]
Cyberplex Theaters - [removed]~cyberplx/
Dick Orkin's Radio Ranch - [removed]
Don't Touch That Dial - [removed]
FAQ: OTR - [removed]
     FreQ - [removed]
Golden Age of Radio - [removed]
Golden Days of Australian Radio - [removed]
Heritage Radio Classics - [removed]
History of Radio Broadcasting -
[removed]
Index CBC Radio - [removed]
     Jack Benny Episode List - [removed]~[removed]
JAM's Radio Nostalgia - [removed]
Jean Sheperd Page - [removed]~[removed]
Jean Sheperd - [removed]~[removed]
Jeff Miller's Home Page - [removed]
Jerry Stearn's Radio Drama and Comedy - [removed]~[removed]
Library of American Broadcasting - [removed]
Lin Robertson's Old Time Radio Page - [removed]
Lou Genco's OTR Page - [removed]
LodesTone - [removed]~lodeston/[removed]
     Lum & Abner - [removed]
Museum of Radio and TV - [removed]
     McCoy's Recordings - [removed]
Nazi Radio - [removed]
Nostalgia Times Radio Programme - [removed]
Old Radio (and TV) - [removed]
Old-Time Music on the Radio - [removed]
Old Time Radio Links - [removed]
Old Time Radio Show Logs - [removed]~daleb/
100 Years of Radio - [removed]
OTR Digest - [removed]~wdp/OTR_ONLINE/
     *OTR FAQ - ftp:// [removed]
     OTR Premiums - [removed]~jrolsen/[removed]
Pacific Rim OTR - [removed]~radio/sounds/
Phil's Old Radios - [removed]:80/~philn/
Price as the Radio Saint - [removed]
RadioActive Online Newsletter - [removed]
Radio Archive - [removed]~bensmanm/
Radio Classics - [removed]
Radio Collecting Links - [removed]#three
Radio Days - [removed]
Radio Era Archives - [removed]~tsm/
     Radio Hall of Fame - [removed]
     Radio Magazine - [removed]
     Radio Memories - [removed]
Radio Showcase - [removed]
Radio Spirits - [removed]
Radio Theater on the Web - [removed]~[removed]
Radio Yesteryear - [removed]
Real Audio - [removed]
RHAC Catalog - [removed]
Science Fiction on Radio - [removed]~[removed]
Sci-Fi Guy - [removed]
Sound Affects: A Radio Playground - [removed]~[removed]
Sperdvac on the Web - [removed]~[removed]
Sperdvac Open Reel Library 1501+ - [removed]~rnovak
Stations Broadcasting OTR Shows - [removed]
Steven Lewis' Bing Crosby Page -
[removed]
     Superman on Radio - [removed]
The Shadow - [removed]
Thousand Oaks Radio Library Collection - [removed]
Tribute to Orson Welles - [removed]
     TV Video & Radio Audio - [removed]
Vincent Price On Radio - [removed]
Wayne's Old Time Radio Page - [removed]
YesterdayUSA - [removed]
     ZBS Homepage - [removed]

NEW ADDITIONS TO THE LIST ARE INDENTED 

This list is by no means complete. For additions, deletions, corrections and comments,
please 
Email me at    jmann@[removed]     Thank you, 

Jack Mann

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:55:00 -0400
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Paladin
Message-ID: <199610101626_MC1-A9E-F0FC@[removed]>

>Now, John Travolta to play Paladin?? (AKA
wire:paladin@[removed])  
>Too old, and too pretty.  And too Brooklyn.

But, oh how he can dance around a subject.   I hear, on totally impeachable
authority,  it's going to a musical  -- Paladin takes a job as a school
teacher and is assigned a group of unteachable 45-year-olds who still dress
and act like teenagers (black leather jackets, slicked back hair, etc.),
whose live solely for the Saturday night dance contests.   The working
title is "Have Tights, Must  Travel."    Personally, I think Travolta is a
natural for the part.  I mean, it's HIM -- don't you think?

 Alan Chapman

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:17:23 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: LONE RANGER's first name
Message-ID: <961010191722_540690000@[removed]>

A. Joseph Ross's correction intriques me since it is based on very nearly
first-hand information.  Do you recall approximately what year this episode
was broadcast?  How old were you?  Season of the year, [removed]  Since nearly
all the later disks survive as well as the original scripts, I'd be
interested in trying to track down the episode where the Ranger was given a
first name.  Do you recall any details about the plot?  I'll be disappointed
if I find out that the LONE RANGER was indeed given a name on the radio
series, since I really like his true identity being buried with his brothers
and his friends.  It's strange that the name wasn't given in the 15th or 20th
anniversary shows; the 20th anniversary "Return of Cavendish" episode gave
the names of the other five Texas Rangers (Captain Dan Reid, Jim Bates, Sam
Cooper, Jack Stacey and Joe Brent) but kept the lone survivor's first name a
mystery.  Perhaps the show that mentioned the Ranger's first name was one of
those not written by Striker.  Maybe it was from a script produced during the
time when Fran Striker had been temporarily fired by Trendle and company.
 Any information you could give to help pinpoint this elusive episode would
be appreciated. -- Anthony Tollin    

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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 96 01:04:48 UT
From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Missing Roma Wines
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>[removed] so no one knows what happened to Roma wines?

I (hic) had nothing to do with it! (hic)  ;-)

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:32:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: mcracken@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Another Recurring Familiar Voice
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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There recently was an informative discussion here on the many roles for
William Conrad in past radio days.  Lots of neat information was made
available.  To extend this "voice" thing once again, I heard recently  an
Adventures of the Falcon episode from KNX Los Angeles and began to wonder if
one of the actors in that episode (it dealt with a boxer  that was supposed
to throw a fight but didn't) was James Gregory?  He played the police
Captain  in the old Barney Miller TV series years ago. He has a very
distinctive  voice.  It seems I have heard him, if in fact it is him, on
many other OTR shows or someone that sounds like him.

Does he have a radio track record like Conrad?  Any takers?

Regards

Mac

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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:37:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Patrick Franzis <franzis@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Looking for a Jack Benny [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@esun212>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

 Hi Folks,

 I'm looking for a good copy of a Jack Benny program
 with Danny Kaye where Jack and Danny fight for a role in 
 the movie "The Life of Jack Benny". This is one of
 my favorites but my copy is quite noisy. I believe
 the original air date was May 28, 1944. I didn't see it in
 my RHAC catalog.

 If anyone has a good copy, I'd gladly reimburse postage and 
 tape cost or will trade for it. Please let me know.

 Thanks! -Patrick




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