Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #128
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Date: 4/2/2002 10:03 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 128
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  WHERE IS GARY OWENS NOW?              [ Chet <cien@[removed]; ]
  Hardy Boys on Radio                   [ "bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed] ]
  reading books                         [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Comics on the Radio                   [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
  Franklin Roosevelt and the Penguin    [ "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet. ]
  Inner Sactum film                     [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Child Actors                          [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
  Gloria DeHaven, and Coleen Gray       [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Hal Stone's other roles               [ "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed] ]
  Re: don sherwood                      [ "bygeorge" <bygeorge@[removed]; ]
  Ray Erlenborn                         [ Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed]; ]
  Bulova Watch Time                     [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Does anyone know about the "NBC Love  [ "Cumming, Alec (NBC)" <[removed] ]
  Sam Edwards                           [ " Dial" <epminney@[removed]; ]
  OTR fans in Phoenix                   [ Hpdedoo@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:51:17 -0500
From: Chet <cien@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WHERE IS GARY OWENS NOW?

hi any los angeles readers
what station is gary owens on now? thanx, chet norris

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:05:39 -0500
From: "bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
To: "" old-time radio digest ">" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Hardy Boys on Radio

Hi all,
My sons have been reading their first, and I must confess, my first Hardy
Boys Book.
They asked me if there were ever any Hardy Boys mysteries in the OTR days.
I said I'd ask the experts.
So were the Hardy Boys mysteries ever turned in to a series?
Bill

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:28:44 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: reading books

Hal ask in the last OTR digest about how the blind read books.  The answer
is that I have special scanning software which is installed in my computer
that assist a normal scanner to read pages out of a book out loud.  Many of
the OTR books are not recorded by the groups that put book on tape for the
blind, thus I have a collection of OTR print book handy in order to do
research, or for fun.  To give you an idea on the cost of the special
software for the computer in 1985 we just bought a product to be a screen
reader, which would read many of the line out loud from monitor.  That peace
cost around $2-500.  In 1990 when I graduated from college and started my
career in finance, I believe that I needed more equipment to compete in the
business world which included a PC, screen reader, brailed printer which put
a print page and transfer it in to Braille, scanner, with speech software,
and Braille display which allow a blind person to feel Braille under his
keypad, which showed what kind of print was on the screen.   that total cost
was over $19,000.  Thing have drop in cost over the year and new stuff keep
coming out, so I am going to be one of the first person to buy Hal book,
and I hope to run you down at the SPERDVAC convention.  By the way on this
Sunday interview show on YUSA Janet Waldo will be the first guest, and then
Evelyn Keyes will follow after her.  Take care,

Walden

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:50:12 -0500
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Comics on the Radio

Can anyone on the Digest clue me in to what OTR shows featured the reading
and describing of current comic strips?

Living on Long Island in the Forties, I remember hearing New York's Mayor
Fiorello LaGuardia read the "funnies" during a local newspaper strike.  There
were even film clips shown on later TV shows because he was such a colorful
character.

Later, in the Fifties, when I was off in college out in the Pennsylvania
boondocks -- with only two stations that I could get reliability on my small
table-top radio -- I recall a program called "The Comic Weekly Man" on which
the host read comics from that Sunday's comic strips.  I listened because it
was my one radio connection with my home and the newspaper I could no longer
read.

Does anyone else recall these two events?

And were there any other radio programs that did such comic-strip reading?

Spence

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:51:01 -0500
From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Franklin Roosevelt and the Penguin

FDR was one of the great polarizing figures ever to sit in the Oval Office.
To one side he was the savior who would do anything for the common man and
get America out of the Great Depression. To the other, he was a traitor to
his class and a would-be dictator (Those latter impressions were fueled by
the more socialistic sides to the New Deal, the "Court-packing" scandal and
his willingness to break George Washington's tradition of serving no more
than two consecutive turns.)

No matter what your politics, he was a gifted politician and gifted
communicator. His only equals in that regard are Ronald Reagan and Bill
Clinton, both of whom elicited much of the same vitriol from the opposition.

Where FDR lost many supporters it was in the third term. After all, who
would consider themselves more indispensable than George Washington? As an
interesting sidelight, a group of prominent Americans took out ads in major
newspapers opposing a third term, among them Bing Crosby (On Nov 4 Bing
spoke briefly on radio in support of the Republican Presidential candidate
Wendell Wilkie). Crosby was taken to task by editorial writers around the
country as he was just an actor and recording star so he should stay out of
politics. Can you possibly imagine Streisand or Baldwin or Heston being
attacked for that today today?

Like the current President, however, when arms are taken up, the opposition
stays loyal and the war, not tradition was the question in 1944.

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 20:44:28 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Inner Sactum film

I just turned to the Mystery Channel and they are showing a film called "3
Tales from Inner Sanctum".   The film has a 1992 date and is described
thusly:

"Victoria Principal plays multiple roles in a mix of plots of romance and
mystery based on the radio series."

I'm sure this is old news to many of you.

Irene
IreneTH@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 20:44:51 -0500
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Child Actors

Hal Stone comments on the growing number of child actors that were
available for OTR series.  He cites, in particular, such programs as
Coast to Coast on a Bus and Let's Pretend among those that cultivated
talent in that field.  He also mentions the fact that some older youths
who could sound younger swelled the numbers.

There was at least one other major source I don't believe he mentioned
and that was adults who made careers out of playing juvenile roles.  I
can't begin to call the names of the handful who did this on a regular
basis without some research.  But I recall one of them quite well.

In New York child impersonator Wilda Hinkel apparently earned a living at
it.  Not only was she featured in the longrunning character of Larry
Noble Jr. (yes, a lad) when needed on Backstage Wife, she turned up in
several other daytime dramas and can be distinguished in primetime series
as well.  She also gained her share of advertising roles as a
preadolescent plugging the products of a plethora of sponsors.

As I say, I don't know how many adults portrayed similar roles but this
surely added to the competitive spirit alive then.

Jim Cox

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:49:04 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Gloria DeHaven, and Coleen Gray

I receive telephone messages today from Gloria DeHaven, and Coleen Gray
saying that they will be happy to be future guest on YuSA.  Does any one
have a list of radio shows that they appeared on in there collection.  I
have some, but I also enjoy the help,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:14:05 -0500
From: "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Hal Stone's other roles

In issue 124, Ryan Hall wrote:

Hal can be heard, or read, every Thursday night on the OTR #oldradio chat
saying "Reeeeeeeelaaaaax Lois, Reeeeeeeeeeelaaaaax!"

Ryan, I am busy working at the time that chat is on (Friday [removed] am
Australian time) so it was with excitement (yes I admit it) that I was
looking forward to joining the chat on about the only friday I ever get off
from work, Easter Friday.  I heated up the Hot cross Buns and had a
chocolate Bilby standing by and joined the chat about half an hour early.
It was a great chat and several people there I already knew from other
groups.  I kept my usual nic rather than use my real name.  Then the moment
I had been waiting for, Jughead arrived.  I had decided to try and get him
guessing as to who I was, so I gave him a bit of stick, hoping he would get
stuck into me and ask who I was.  But no, he had to leave early to watch a
TV special.  So I don't know if someone told him who I was and so he left,
or he thought someone was going to do a John Lennon fan impersonation, so he
decided TV would be easier.

Anyway the chat was fun and I look forward to getting on there another
friday in the future, though I will not be warning Hal as to when that will
be.  It was good chatting with you Ryan and Lois and all the others.

Ian Grieve

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:13:58 -0500
From: "bygeorge" <bygeorge@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: don sherwood

hello otr buffs!
thanks for all of the info regarding HALL OF FANTASY. it has been a
tremendous help to me.
now for another matter.
i have been enjoying the great book RADIO'S GOLDEN YEARS by frank
bressee and bobb lynnes. the artwork is great fun and on target. but it
got me to thinking.
as a child i remember reading in some magazine or newspaper about the
history of old time radio and TV the works of don sherwood. his work
was/ is very similiar to lynnes. and i was wondering if anyone knew
where i could find collections of his work(s)?
if you do, let me know.
thanks a lot in advance!
see you in cincy,
randy
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17 DAYS AND COUNTING UNTIL THE CINCY CON!!!!!!!!!!:)

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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 00:21:25 -0500
From: Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ray Erlenborn

I just finished watching a Red Skelton show on our local PBS
channel in which he does a skit about radio sound effects. The
guest sound effects person was Ray Erlenborn. Nice to see him in
person, as the show was in black and white I would guess it was
from the 1950's.

Bill Harris

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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 00:27:13 -0500
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Bulova Watch Time

I' m really excited about the new" find" that Harlan Zinck reported on
in the digest#127. This is one of the reasons that I'm proud to be a
member of the First Generation Radio Archives. Of particular interest
are the "guest celebrities" on these recordings.
I just wish  that it included that legendary duet between Helen Keller
and Harpo Marx " Indian Love Call".
Keep up the good work Harlan.

George Aust

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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:28:56 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history

  From Those Were The Days --

1947 - The Big Story was first heard on NBC. It stayed on the air for
eight years.

  Joe

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Visit my home page:
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:41:02 -0500
From: "Cumming, Alec (NBC)" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Does anyone know about the "NBC Love Song"?

Hello [removed] name is Alec Cumming, and I'm working for the National
Broadcasting Company for a brief while as a historian and researcher, as the
network gears up for its (belated) 75th Anniversary celebration.

I've stumbled across a recording of a pop song that sounds like it was
recorded in the mid-to-late '30s or early '40s. I don't know the title,
although you could call it the "NBC Love Song", and we here at the NBC are
very eager to find out anything about the song - what's it's title really
is, who sang it, was it done for NBC or did it just reflect NBC's
popularity, etc.

Here are the lyrics (there's one line I'm unsure about):

ON THE NBC TONIGHT
YOU HEAR THREE TONES RING OUT
THEY HAVE A SPECIAL MEANING
SO HERE'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT

I LOVE YOU
THREE LITTLE TONES HAVE JUST HAD THEIR SAY
I LOVE YOU
FUNNY BUT (???) WHAT THEY SAY

CHIMES HAVE RUNG
PROGRAM'S [removed]
MY LOVE SONG HAS JUST BEGUN!

TURN THE DIALS OF YOUR HEART
TUNE INTO MY STATION
THOUGH WE MAY BE MILES APART
YOUR RADIO TELLS YOU I KNOW

LISTEN DEAR,
CAN'T YOU [removed]
I LOVE YOU!

Corny? Yes. Sweet? Certainly. If you know ANYTHING about this song, please
let me know!

Thanks,

Alec Cumming
NBC's Semi-official Historian
[removed]@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:41:14 -0500
From: " Dial" <epminney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sam Edwards

Is Sam Edwards a southerner?  I've been listening to some Romance
shows, and it's surprising to hear him playing a romantic lead rather
than the tough western men I've been accustomed to hearing him play.
   Where could I find some information on him and his work?
   Thanks -- Elizabeth Minney

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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:41:21 -0500
From: Hpdedoo@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR fans in Phoenix

I'm in bright sunny sweaty downtown Phoenix, and ready to join an OTR
recreation/social club.  Keep me posted!

Ken K.

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