Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #210
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 6/29/2001 9:59 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 210
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Vallee's stuff & Jolie               ["Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed]]
 JOLSON REMEMBERED                    ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
 I think we've been here before       [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
 Scully Recording & Press Bureau Inc. ["Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed]]
 airing of tobacco commercials on OTR [SacChief@[removed]                   ]
 Dwight Weist & Joe Julian            [Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];     ]
 "Gildy's Middle Name," "Sorry, Wrong ["[removed] Wolfe" <rjrmemorabilia@yahoo.]
 [removed] Back in Business!         ["Jeff Geddes" <jeffg@[removed];]
 Re:Dwight Weist                      [SanctumOTR@[removed]                 ]
 Well hush my mouf!                   [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];    ]
 How Keen!                            ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Timeless  vs  Topical  OTR humor     ["Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed]]
 Calling All Cars                     ["Tony [removed]" <tony@baechler.]
 Bob Bailey -- Johnny Dollar          [Mike Ray <MRay@[removed];    ]
 Pickle in the middle with the mustar [SartyK@[removed]                     ]
 Allen and Benny                      [steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed]]

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:20:29 -0400
From: "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Vallee's stuff & Jolie

Elizabeth's  account of the unusual disks from Rudy's collection is
fascinating.  My wife and I were guests of his and Eleanor for about a week
in 1972.  He showed me many things but I don't recall the disks just
described.  It's great to know that this other material exists.  It's ironic
that Libby Holman is mentioned.  We  knew  her too----she endured some
terrible personal tragedies.

And, it's was at Bob's home that I heard the  Jolie disk.

Best,
Shiffy

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:20:32 -0400
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  JOLSON REMEMBERED

The following tribute to Al Jolson ws penned by me in commeration of his
100the. Birthday.  It has been selected by the Society Of American Port's to
be included in their 2001 Edition of Verses.

                                 "Jolie"

Into our life, there came this man,

Now of whom I speak, so grand.

Toot, Toot, Tootsie, was his style,

Even a ballad, once in--while.

River, called Sewanee, boy what class,

Never a let-up, he could last.

Actors, singers, great Producers, all,

Thought him the greatest, but don't we all?

I know that he is looking down,

On us, his fans, World-wide, round.

North, South, West and East,

All cherish his mem'ry. to say the least.

Lest we forget, a Century has passed,

All together we join to honor en mass.

Learning more about him each passing day,

Just what he gave us, who can say.

Over the years remembered still,

Like he never left us, and never will.

Some say his songs were4 ancient prayers,

Of anguish, sorrow, heartache and care.

No one did know, alone but he,

Sang his heart out for you, for me.

Others will say he ridiculed,

'Cause black-face, his trade mark, was often used.

'Tis a pity, because he meant them no harm,

Expressing emotion that way, through music's charm.

Today, we honor his memory'y so grand,

Yes "Jolie,". . . Al Jolson - was quite a man!

                    (c) 1985 Owens L. Pomeroy

NOTE: (Any Jolson fans interested, in a copy of the above poem, free to
members on this list, written on Parchment paper and autographed, please
contact me at the email above with your name and address.  Thank you.
Owens Pomeroy

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:20:34 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  I think we've been here before

David Phaneuf raises some questions that we have discussed several times
and yet perhaps bear repeating.

Concerning Mr. Keen, while the scriptreading was (to ears hearing it all
a half-century or more later) rather bland, you couldn't have convinced
me at the time.  Keen and company had the ability to (pardon the
expression, reverend) scare the hell out of me every Thursday night.  I
listened faithfully to those tales and was so frightened I often
convinced myself the killer was just waiting for me in the next room, or
in my closet or outside the door.  While I loved figuring out which of
three or four suspects Keen and partner Mike Clancy would finger as the
true culprit, in the 1940s for sure I was every bit convinced that those
same rapscallions were lurking not far from my radio.  It may sound bland
now but -- especially when you listened to it with the lights out -- you
could be certain it was all very real.  It was, and is to this day, my
favorite of all the crimefighters . . . no matter the disparaging remarks
the series frequently generates.

Then Dave asks about Fatimas and Chesterfields being advertised on the
same Dragnet programs.  Of course!  They were both from Liggett & Myers
Tobacco Company.  Didn't Procter & Gamble ever advertise multiple
products on the same show?  I recall that for a spell The Right to
Happiness appeared daily for Spic 'n' Span and Cheer, both P&G
detergents.  One of those commercials was normally a cowcatcher, added on
from the same manufacturer to promote an additional commodity to its
main-line product (likely Chesterfield in Dragnet's case).

Phaneuf finally mentions a blooper that occurred in a Prince Albert
commercial.  Incidentally, for most of its two decades on network radio,
the Grand Ole Opry was sponsored by Prince Albert.  I can still hear the
rinky-tink piano and see the quartet on the stage of the Ryman Auditorium
singing:  "Roll your own with good P. A., and take a puff or two . . .
you'll get that extra smoking joy . . . Prince Albert brings to you."

At any rate, David's mentioning the live blooper instantly brought
another to my mind.  One day in January 1943 on Life Can Be Beautiful
kindly old Papa David Solomon advised his minion, Chi Chi Conrad:  "Love
ain't something you can throw out of your heart like bucket from a
water."  The characters went right on, incidentally, without
acknowledging that sterling line.

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:20:36 -0400
From: "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Scully Recording & Press Bureau Inc.

Hmmmmm, I wonder if this is related to the company that made the disk
recording lathes and later, tape machines.  They too, were based in
Connecticut.  Perhaps the AES (Audio Engineering  Society) might have info.

Also, I two two copies of the wonderful "Radio Personalities" (a pictorial
and biographical annual)., edited by Don Rockwell, published by Press Bureau
Inc. Copyrighted 1935. One's falling apart & one's a great condition.  I use
the deteriorating one to browse.  It's a GREAT compilation of portraits and
facts.  Does anyone know if it was published in any other years?
This version is the premier one.

Best,
Shiffy

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:20:39 -0400
From: SacChief@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  airing of tobacco commercials on OTR broadcasts?

Recently, there's been some discussion on this thread about the
rebroadcasting of OTR when the old show contains tobacco ads, which are
prohibited today. As far as i know, the OTR shows are being rebroadcast
complete with commercials.  For example, as all West Coaster OTR fans
probably know, KNX (1070 AM,Los Angeles) broadcasts such shows regularly at
9pm. On 6/27/01, one of the programs was an old Dragnet episode, complete
with Chesterfield ads.  bob keldgord

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:25 -0400
From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Dwight Weist & Joe Julian

I thank Michael Gwynne and two folks who contacted me privately to help
put me on the track of finding Dwight Weist's literary heirs.

I also need to find an heir of the late actor Joe Julian. I believe he
died childless. He did have a brother whose name I think was Dr. Samuel
Shapiro in [removed] I think the brother too is gone.

Two questions:
1. Does anyone know any relative of Julian?
2. Anthony Tollin published a small biographical piece on the Internet.
But it appears not to be there any more. Can somebody send me a copy of
it?

[My book, Words at War, a history of World War II era radio drama, will
be published next spring by Scarecrow Press - hence my need to contact
these people for permission to quote various sources. At a later date, I
will make a "louder" announcement about this.]

Howard

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:27 -0400
From: "[removed] Wolfe" <rjrmemorabilia@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Gildy's Middle Name," "Sorry, Wrong Number,"
 Bob Hope and another trivia question

Hey gang;
         Sorry I haven't posted lately but I've ben on
a little "Odyssey" with Homer and another adventure
with Virgil. Right at this moment I'm on trip with
"Dante" and guess who I ran into on the way? That's
right, "Mr. Afore Mentioned." I always knew that "Mr.
Afore Mentioned's" business ethics were going to get
him sent to Dante's homeland and just this morning I
ran into Homer, Plato, Socrates, Aeneas and right in
the middle of all of them was "Mr. Afore Mentioned"
and that's when I discovered the error of my ways and
began runnning the other direction. During my jog I
ran into the great philospher, Rene Descartes who must
be in some way related to OTRChris because Mr.
Descartes wouldn't believe anything he read, saw or
heard without some sort of verification of the facts
first and we now have 2 of the 3 facts concerning
"Sorry, Wrong Number" but one piece of information is
still missing from the equasion.
                        1. I checked both our local
Chattanooga newspaper and the "New York Times for
informatin concerning "Sorry, Wrong Number" and they
both agree that the working title was, "She Overheard
Death" which means that William Spier must've changed
the title of the story right before airtime.
                                    2. Chattanooga was
on Central Standard Time and New York was on Eastern
Standard Time and it indeed aired at 9:30 there and
8:30 here, hence the East Coast Broadcast.
                                The piece of
information that is still missing is when "Supense"
aired in Los Angeles and I've asked Laura "Play Misty
For Me" Kneff to look for the last remaining piece of
the puzzle. If anyone else reading this in Los Angeles
wants to verify what Laura finds that would be great.
All you have to do is go to the "Regional History"
section on your library which is normally the 3rd
Floor and ask for the microfilm from May of 1943 and
then look up May 25th, the date that "Sorry, Wrong
Number" and tell us what time it was broadcast in Los
Angeles. If the "Los Angeles Times" says that it aired
at 6:30 then there was indeed only one broadcast. BUT
if the "Times" says 9:30 that would be the "WEST COAST
BROADCAST" because it would've been 11:30 here and the
"CBS" affiliate in our city was already off the air
and in New York it would've been 12:30 and guess what?
Their "CBS" affiliate was off the air too! So, if
someone or more than one someone can pull up the
microfilm that would be the last piece of conclusive
evidence we need to know whether or not it was done
twice because listening to two different tapes
wouldn't prove anything to Rene Descartes because it's
not really concrete evidence but the radio listing in
the "Los Angeles Times" is.
                           Everyone was right in
regards to "Gildy's" 2 middle names. They used
"Philormanic" on the "Gildersleeve's Diary" episode of
"Fibber McGee And Molly" and during a "Golden Days Of
Radio" h Frank Bresee Hal Peary said "Gildy's" middle
name was "Place." I've kept track of all the correct
answers that were posted in the "Digest" and whenever
"RJR" is up and running again I'm planning to give the
correct responders a prize of their choice out of our
catalog but my target date for resuming the business
is still late September or early October in the
meantime here's another trivia question:
                               "Gildy" wasn't the only
character to have two differnt names. One of my
favorite radio actors, "Pat Buttram" played everyone's
favorite peddler, "Mr. Haney" on "Green Acres" and it
seems as though he had two first names or it might've
have been his first and middle names. In an episode of
"Green Acres," "Mr. Haney" is stopped by a Sate
Trooper who turns out to be his nephew. When he sees
who's driving the truck he says, "Well, If it isn't
Uncle ____. When "Nick At Night" first put "Green
Acres" on they aired a special with Eddie Albert, Eva
Gabor and Pat Buttram and the interviewer asked Mr.
Buttram if "Mr. Haney" had a first name. He answered
yes but gave an entirely different name from the one
mentioned in the episode above. Do any of you trivia
buffs know what "Mr. Haney's" two first names were?
                                                   I
would also like to mentin Bob ope before I go. There
is a valid reason why I thought that Mr. Hope didn't
keep his transcription discs. There's a Christmas
Special from 1982 which he hosted and was sponsored by
"Whitman's Samplers." It's called, "Christmas Like We
Used To Know" during the open of the special Mr. Hope
says that when the show was being put together it was
discovered that he hadn't retained enough material of
his own to include any of his Christmas shows in the
specail and he had to go to the "Library Of Congress"
to find some examples of his own Christmas programs. I
interpreted this to mean that he kept very few, if any
of his own discs. Could he have actually meant that he
didn't keep any of his "Christmas Show" discs?
However, there are a few Bob Hope Christmas in general
circulation. But I suppose "Mr. Afore Mentioned" owns
the "Exclusive Distrubution Rights" to them as well
because that was another of the shows that was
highlighted in yellow on the "RJR" Christmas flyer.
                                             By the
way, if you could provide me with a bit more
information I could find the correct airdates and
titles for the two "Lights Out" episodes you were
looking for a couple of weeks ago. But the information
that was provided just wasn't enough.
                              Goodnight all    .

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:29 -0400
From: "Jeff Geddes" <jeffg@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  [removed] Back in Business!

Hi all,

After my last server shut me down, I have re-done my webpage and it can now
be found at:

[removed]

It was made especially with Canadian OTR Enthusiasts in mind, but I'd love to
have everyone take a look at [removed]

You will find sounds, pictures, links, resources on where you can find
Canadian OTR, and Canadian NTR, a few downloads, and it also has my OTR
Collection posted there if anyone wants to trade with [removed] (which I would
LOVE!)

So, please check it out at [removed]
and send me your comments!  I'm confident that you have never seen an OTR
website quite like it!

jeff
jeffg@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:33 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:Dwight Weist

In a message dated 6/28/01 11:09:51 AM, <A
HREF="[removed],+Michael+C.">Michael C. Gwynne</A>
writes:

<< I believe Dwight had a daughter Diana, or Diane and that she became a
formidable actress, just ask Woody [removed];>

Diane Weist is not Dwight's daughter (though he wished she was).  I asked him
years ago.
--ANTHONY TOLLIUN

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:37 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Well hush my mouf!

An open letter to Rodney Bowcock and all Digest subscribers.

Rodney, I'm attaching an E-Mail that I just received in response to a recent
posting whereby you asked if any of the OTR dealers ever gave me "Free"
copies of the "Archie" Show. The attached speaks for itself.
 You wrote:

I would think that since you were a cast member either of these
organizations (Radio Memories at least) would be willing to give you
copies of these at no cost.

<snip> Oh Sure!

I know I saw Rosemary Rice autographing
copies for sale at the Radio Memories booth in Cincinnati.

Well, I bet if I ever get invited to the Cincy Con, and offer to sit at
their booth, they'd certainly give me a set. (By the way. How much are
autographs worth nowadays? :)<<

NOW RODNEY, MY BOY, SEE WHAT YOU STARTED. READ ON!

Harlan,
If you will send me your shipping address, I would be honored to send you
tape copies of all the ARCHIE ANDREWS shows that I have at no charge.  OTR
has given me so much joy in my life (I have been a collector for over 30
years) and this is a way of giving back a little which has meant so much to
me.  It would mean a great deal to me if you would allow me to do this.  I
would also like to take this opputunity to thank you so much for your
contribution to OTR. To set the record straight on the Rosemary Rice
comment.
 She came over to my table and I refused to let her pay for what she wanted.
She told me that she would not leave the table until she could do something
for me.  I saw that she meant it, so I asked if she would mind signing the
ARCHIE ANDREWS tapes I had on the table.

Ted Davenport
Radio Memories
[removed]

To all men (and ladies) present. I now respond publicly to Mr. Davenport. I
want to thank you most sincerely for your kind and generous offer. I accept
most gratefully, but under one condition. I would like to be reassured that
you are aware that I wasn't "sucking" around looking for "freebies, but
rather, just "foolin' around with the "gang".

It is quite typical for Rosemary to do what she did at your booth,
autographing the "Archie" sets for you. She is a class act. But then too,
Mr. Davenport, so are you. If we are ever at the same convention, sharpen up
the pens for me.

By the wayŠ is this in lieu of any compensation due me for "Contract"
violations?   JUST KIDDING, TED  ŠŠŠHONEST!!!!

Warmest Regards and appreciation

Hal(Harlan)Stone
JUGHEAD

But I must add a postscript. Bill Guggenheim, who I have dubbed the "Archie"
shows #1 fan, has 40 copies of the show in his collection, and offered me
copies of any that I did not have. 40 shows??? From now on, he'll be
affectionately nicknamed "Glutton for punishment Guggenheim". :)

PPS: An aside to Stephen Kallis: Well, Stephen, you'll have to admit, there
is certainly one OTR dealer who doesn't need to hire new PR people! :)

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:49 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  How Keen!

Dave Phaneuf notes,

Anyway, I've had a chance to listen to some shows I've previously not
listened to before, one of which was Mr. Keen, Tracer of Lost Persons.
<snip>  Needless to say I was very disappointed.  the Acting sounded
lackluster <snip> Was this normal for Mr. Keen?  Was it a popular show?

As I've mentioned before, Mr. Keen is one of my guilty pleasures.  It was
popular, too.  It ran from 1937 to the middle of 1955.  I enjoy the show
as camp, taking delight in the way all the characters keep explaining
things to each other and always addressing each other by mane every time
they speak.  I have a modest collection of Mr. Keen broadcasts and would
love a lot more.

"Look, Mr. Keen, he's pointing a gun at us."

Great show, but not the way its creators (the Hummerts) intended.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:52 -0400
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Timeless  vs  Topical  OTR humor

  Re the current discussion on Benny vs. Allen, etc.:
  The overall opinion here (and in OTR history books, for example) seems to
be: Timeless humor is much more worthwhile than Topical humor.
  In comparing those two types of OTR humor from today's viewpoint, one very
positive element topical humor has is its historical quality.  Recordings of
Bob Hope's 1940s shows, for example, can transport today's listener to a
real time (moment!) and place in the past, giving a kind of
time-machine/living-history/listening-to-it-on-the-radio-right-then
experience. Well, at least that's what happens to me!   If a listener --
especially a young one -- first needs to do some historical homework before
being able to adequately appreciate such topical/"dated" OTR recordings, it
could be worth his/her while to do so.
  -- Phil C.

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:31:59 -0400
From: "Tony [removed]" <tony@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Calling All Cars

Hello all.  These are probably questions for Elizabeth since they are
about early radio, but I will appreciate answers from anyone.  Thanks
in advance.

First, I would like some general background information on the
series.  I know it ran from late 1933 to 1939 and was directed by
William N. Robson.  Can anyone give any more information?  What
network was it on?  I heard that it was on KHJ, but J. David Goldin's
database lists it as being on the CBS Pacific network.  Unless I am
mistaken, CBS did not even go as far west as LA at that time, right?
Also, why are some programs sponsored while others are definitely
syndicated?  Were they trying to reach a nationwide audience as
well?

Second, does anyone have a complete, accurate log?  Jerry's log
seems to be complete enough, but some information contradicts
what is given in the programs themselves.  Besides the broadcast
numbers not matching, there are some dates I am not sure about.
He has the Mae West Jewel Robbery listed in 1934, however it is
indicated that this may instead be a 1935 rebroadcast.  Checking the
date of the broadcast number given at the beginning, (69) shows it as
being from 03-18-35.  This also matches another collector's date.
Also, another program from 1934 talks about the case which took
place 26 years ago, but gives the year as 1910.  This would seem to
date the program in 1936.  Finally, the very early programs in 1933
would seem to be from the winter, but make references to summer.
Can anyone sort out this mystery?

Third, can anyone give any cast credits?  Some shows give names of
ome actors, but many do not seem familiar to me, and many shows
do not list any cast at all.  It would be nice to find a list of actors for
every show, but even an idea of early Hollywood actors at the time
which frequently appeared on these shows would help.  I can
recognize a few voices but not many.

Finally, was this the first police drama series?  I heard it was but I
would think that either Gangbusters or some other series came
earlier.  Any confirmation on this?  Also, how representative is this
program of early radio drama?  I have no other drama programs from
the period to compare with.  Other than having no middle commercial
and obviously having a limited budget, it seems typical of later
dramas to me.  Thanks again, and sorry for asking so many
questions.  I find the series interesting and am trying to learn as
much about it as possible.

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:55:09 -0400
From: Mike Ray <MRay@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bob Bailey -- Johnny Dollar

Hi Gang:
I can't begin to tell you just how much my
family has enjoyed the recent books by our
friend Martin Grams, Jr. They are Command
Performance, Suspense, and Have Gun will
Travel. The latter one Martin had help from
the brilliant Les Rayburn. These books have
become treasures that are being enjoyed over
and over again. Many thanks Martin, they are
wonderful. You have done us all a great
[removed] say all of this to suggest
a program, and an actor that would make
and outstanding book. Since all of us
have our own list of favorite programs that
we enjoy, I dare say that most of us have on
that list the program, Yours Truly Johnny
Dollar with the best of all the Dollars Bob
Bailey. Bailey had an outstanding versatile
carrier and a personal life that would break
your heart. This would not only be a big seller
among the OTR community, but would be a marvelous
way to honor one of OTR's great actors and also
a program that still stands up well after all these
years. Martin, is there another book in your spirit?
If so, my prayers are with you.
Best regards,
Mike Ray

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:07:13 -0400
From: SartyK@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Pickle in the middle with the mustard on top

I was listening to Jack Benny  recently while traveling; I don't know from
what year, but it was during the running gag where Jack opened a cafe around
his pool and sold sandwiches and beer causing Phil Harris to crack:  "pickle
in the middle and the beer on tap."  Didn't this parody the line:  "pickle in
the middle and the mustard on top?"  Can someone tell me who spoke this line
and why it was funny?

On another note: I thought Fred Allen's portrayal of one of the kidnappers of
Red Chief in the movie O'Henry's Full House was very good; however, Jack
Benny has and will outlast Fred Allen for the simple reason that in my
subjective opinion Jack was the more talented.

George Kelly

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:30:21 -0400
From: steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Allen and Benny

I don't usually have much time to do anymore than read
over the list, but I just had to weigh in on this one!
 I love them both, but I've got to say that FA (as
I've heard Kenny Baker call him) is worth the effort
involved in finding out more about him (terrible
sentence, sorry).  I would recommend listening to the
Biography in Sound of Fred Allen (I heard it on a a
community radio statio a couple of years ago - on a
Saturday afternoon during hunting season, I had gone
back to the truck to warm up and eat and sat there for
over an hour!).  Yes, some of the humor is topical,
but so far I've only been left totally clueless a
couple of times.  I love the later Allen's Alley
characters, especially, of course, Senator Claghorn,
but the early characters are funny too.  I especially
like Falstaff Openshaw's poems.  Two sketches from the
pre-Allen's Alley days stand out, I would recommend
them.  One is the (not sure of date, don't have my
tapes with me) April 1941 presentation of One Long Pan
Takes a Chance.  I think that Lionel Stander was the
guest on that show.  Another great one with guest star
Reginald Gardiner was entitled "The Pekingnese of the
Basketvilles".  These shows are hilarious, I often
rewind them and listen to them twice!  Somewhere I
have Life Magazine that shows pictures of Allen
dressed up as One Long Pan and some other characters
and they are priceless.  Next time I dig through that
box I'll pass along the date.  To me, it's the
differences in style between Benny and Allen that
makes me appreciate them both even more.

Steve

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