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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 345

Table Of Contents: 

	 Amos and Andy
	 Yep, someone [removed]
	 William Conrad
	 Does It Exist?
	 Bill Conrad
	 International house/baby rose marie
	 FOTR convention
	 Norman Corwin on the demise of radio 
	 New TDK tape packaging
	 Re: William Conrad
	 THE SHADOW CHRONICLES and CLAYTON MOORE book
	 The Shadow
	 ORCA of Canada

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:07:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bruce Toews <toews@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Amos and Andy
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Hi. Here's something that has bugged me for years. Why did they call it 
the Amos and Andy show? Amos is in the show so very rarely, it seems like 
it should be called the Andy and King Fish show. Though I really liked 
Amos ... whereas Andy was billed as something of an idiot, Amos seemed 
like a really nice, friendly guy whom I would actually have liked to have 
gotten to know. Any thoughts?

Bruce

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:38:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Yep, someone [removed]
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Mention of the Stan Freberg show reminded me of the evening
a bunch of radio veterans were invited to the home of the
late Walter Palmer in San Francisco for a meal. We were
mostly soldering iron types. You knew you'd found the right
place when you looked through the window at the front
door and saw an amplifier on the stairs. There was a general
lack of clear horizontal surfaces and then there was the
matter of the snake in the living room. Walt always called
them ribbons.
Somehow the Freberg show came into the conversation after
dinner and Walt dug out his copy of the two record set and
put on "Bang Gunly - [removed] Marshall Steel". We sat there 
listening and drinking our coffee but would chorus everytime
we heard: "Yup, someone sure cut through that fence."

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:01:27 -0400
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: William Conrad
Message-ID: <960921140126_107334051@[removed]>

  A posting was made asking for more extensive word on William Conrad's radio
activities.  Obviously, any list begins with "Gunsmoke" and "Escape" (on
which he both acted and narrated), but his work credits go on and on.
 Following are some examples.
   He had on-going roles on such shows as "Pete Kelly's Blues" with Jack
Webb; "Nightbeat" with Frank Lovejoy; "First Nighter"; "The Count of Monte
Cristo" (incidentally, Parley Baer was one of those who portrayed Rene on the
"Count"); "Damon Runyon Theater"; "Johnny Modero, Pier 23" (and, yes, you'll
also find that spelled "Madero"); "On Stage," which was produced by Elliott
and Cathy Lewis; and "The Voyage of the Scarlet Queen."  Conrad was also
announcer/narrator on the "CBS Radio Workshop."  One of the shows on
"Workshop" was "The Legend of Jimmy Blue Eyes," and Conrad did a magnificent
job of reading part of the story line in poetry with a jazz background.  One
of his jobs that makes me chuckle was his stint as sidekick Louis Dumont,
with French accent) to Macdonald Carey on "Jason and his Golden Fleece."
 Incidentally, that was written by Herb Ellis, who did a lot of work with
Jack Webb and who has directed many excellent re-creations at several OTR
conventions (one of the business' really nice guys).
   Here's one you might not run across when putting together Conrad's
credits.  In his younger days he was once one of the producers on "The
Hermit's Cave."  I don't know if he did any acting on it.

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 02:15:25 -0400
From: John Koppel <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Does It Exist?
Message-ID: <199609210215_MC1-9A8-B068@[removed]>

Hello Everyone! 

I can remember listening to a radio show back in the 80's that was a
mystery show and was hosted by Tom Bosley.  It was a new time radio show. 
Am I just crazy and have a bad memory? Or am I getting the CBS Radio
Mystery Theater mixed up with it.
Please help!


John Koppel

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 00:26:07 -0700
From: "JACK MANN" <jmann@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Bill Conrad
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Two more shows Mr. Conrad was in: Pete Kelly's Blues and Jason and His
Golden Fleece.  I sure do miss that great voice of his.

Jack

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 96 15:32:32 -0500
From: James M Justen <juste003@[removed]> (jim justen)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: International house/baby rose marie
Message-Id: <v01540b02ae69b9f1a452@[[removed]]>
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I recently rented International House, the [removed]
a very curious film, a little flimsy and quite silly(also surprisingly
risque at times!)
It seems to have been intended in part as a showcase for some radio
[removed] fascinating in that regard. Its kind of funny watching
people more used to microphones than cameras, some of whom look a little
[removed]
Anyhow, this video is quite easy to find, and is a fun watch for radio fans!

jim justen
kb0nqb
juste003@[removed]
"on yer bike, mate!"

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:45:28 -0400
From: KWE001@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: FOTR convention
Message-ID: <960921174528_290106349@[removed]>

Was any final determination made as to whether we
will identify ourselves as online members at the convention?

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwavesOTR <[removed]@[removed]>
cc: wpd@[removed]
Subject: Norman Corwin on the demise of radio 
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The following excerpt of a copyrighted work is reproduced here under
the 'fair use doctrine'.  The entire article can be viewed at the web
address at end of article.

Excerpt from Currents (Public Radio) Newsletter, January 15, 1996 


Echoes from a golden time when Corwin worked at CBS

By Tom Lewis, author of Empire of the Air: The Men Who Made Radio wrote this 
appreciation.

"Had I come along just a few years later, certainly no more than five years
later,'' Corwin continued, "I would never have the opportunities that I did
have nor the freedom. It was just not in the cards--never has been since.
The gatekeepers, so to speak, the men who are in charge of broadcasting, are
in a position where everything is compartmentalized, departmentalized. There
are editors and censors, and there are people who worry about what they call
'program practices' and 'program policies,' and they comb a script for all
of that. I was lucky. They trusted me, and I would not abuse my privileges.''

But the world of commercial radio did change. CBS decided to abandon the
Columbia Workshop and its commitment to thoughtful, dramatic programming.
The writer who had produced the purest, unalloyed gold of the era would have
no venue for his work. Corwin learned of the decision from none other than
the head of the network, William Paley, the man who had created a small
niche for quality within commercial radio. It happened in 1948, in a chance
encounter on a cross-country train trip from California to New York.

"He made clear,'' Corwin recalled, that while he and the network appreciated
the kind of work I had done, they really were interested in reaching the
greatest number of people in their programming. And I realized he was
telling me that the future for the man who wrote programs that CBS had taken
deep bows for, was no longer guaranteed or planned. I remember feeling when
I arrived in New York that I was washed up. And I felt suddenly very old,
very useless, and that all my work had been writ not in water but in air.''

The age of the great radio networks, which consisted of as many as 400
stations, was over. "It was not a death from natural causes,'' Corwin told
me. "It ended out of sheer manipulation. Television came along in a great
rush. And the broadcasters, the industry, the economists and the captains of
the broadcast industry realized that minute for minute, television was going
to be a far more profitable medium than radio.'' Paley went on to raid NBC
of its talent, paying outrageous sums for shows like Jack Benny and Amos 'n
Andy. They would become hits on his new CBS Television network.


Web page updated April 8, 1996
Current
The biweekly newspaper that covers public broadcasting
A service of Current Publishing Committee, Washington, [removed]
currentron@[removed]
(202) 463-7055
Copyright 1996
 

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:49:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwavesOTR <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: New TDK tape packaging
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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	Since TDK D series tape seems to be the standard of collecting, 
let me advise of the new packaging on some I recently purchased - don't 
know if they are changing over the whole line, or if this is something 
perhaps produced for a foreign market (such products often find their way
into NYC discount stores).  I will try to call the company Monday to find 
out.  Has anyone else come across this formulation?
	I haven't tried it yet.  The box indicates that the tape itself 
is made in Japan and packaged in (Thailand?, sorry it's not in front of me).
The 10-pac box is similar to the standard kind, but in pastel shades of red.
The cases are slightly smaller, with a smaller back "flap" (the lip near 
the hinge is only about a quarter inch).  The main thing to be concerned 
with is that the shells are not screwed together but glued - otherwise 
they look the same. This is cheaper to make than the 5 screw shells.  I 
don't know if they are inferior in any other way.  Just be advised.  If I 
find out more I'll post the list.  -Max

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:04:08 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <michaelcarraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: William Conrad
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And a trivia [removed]

In an animated television version in the late 60's, William Conrad was
also the voice of "the daring and resourceful masked rider of the plains
who led the fight for law and order in the early Western United States."

No where in the pages of history can one find any one better to fill
Brace Beemer's boots.

I noticed an earlier posting that Jon Heart was going to take on the
role of the Ranger in an OTR convention production.  For me --- while I
liked Heart in TV's "Last of the Mohicans" (as Hawkeye) his voice did
not seem right for role (even Claytom Moore, who tried to get the tone
and inflection, could not compare to Beemer but Moore was noticebly
superior to Hart).

If the LR were going back into production now -- an audio version --
which contemporary actor would you cast in the role?

My choice -- if he could do a General American accent -- would be
Patrick Stewart.  ("Make it so, Tonto.")

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:10:25 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: THE SHADOW CHRONICLES and CLAYTON MOORE book
Message-ID: <960921201025_483024656@[removed]>

I keep getting queries about these new items so I decided to give out
ordering information on a one-time basis along with the ISBN numbers so
readers can purchase them from their own local booksellers as well.   Clayton
Moore's 266-page hardcover autobiography, "I Was That Masked Man," is
published by Taylor Publishing and is now available at bookstores (ISBN
0-87833-939-6).   It's well worth picking up for any fan of The Lone Ranger,
classic television or movie serials.   Great American Audio has just released
"The Shadow Chronicles," a 5-CD/5-cassette collection that includes eight
Shadow programs (starring Orson Welles & Margot Stevenson, Bill Johnstone,
John Archer and Bret Morrison), an hour-long audio documentary, "Voices from
the Shadows," and "The Shadow - The Making of a Legend," a 56 page booklet
featuring 35 photos.    Yours truly, Anthony Tollin, wrote the book
(Introduction by John Archer) and narrated the documentary which features
 program excerpts and interviews with Orson Welles, Bill Johnstone, John
Archer, Bret Morrison, Walter Gibson and pulp editor John Nanovic, radio
Margots Gertrude Warner and Margot Stevenson, announcers Ken Roberts and Ted
Mallie, radio-writer Sidney Slon, sound effects artist Barney Beck, and Dick
Osgood (who acted on the original 1930 "Street & Smith's Detective Story
Hour" with LaCurto and Readick).   The 5-CD set (ISBN 1-55569-823-9) retails
for $[removed]; the 5-cassette collection sells for $[removed] (ISBN 1-55569-822-0).
 All three of the above items can also be order from me through the mails for
the retail price plus $[removed] per order postage and insurance.   (I don't
charge for handling since I assume collectors want their sets handled as
little as possible.)   I'll be glad to autograph and/or personally inscribe
"The Shadow - The Making of a Legend" for any purchaser who requests it.  
(I will have to carefully slice through the shrinkwrap to accomplish this,
but the packaging will otherwise be unmarred.)   I also have two different
designs of SHADOW watches for sale that were licensed and manufactured two
years ago as a movie tie-in.   One features a closeup of The Shadow's head,
hat and ring; the other a standing figure of The Shadow.   Each sells for
[removed]@ come in a collectible tin case.
All of the above items will also be on sale at my tables at the Friends of
Old-Time Radio convention (Oct. 17-19, Holiday Inn North, Newark Airport) and
the Los Angeles SPERDVAC convention in November.  Email me at
SanctumOTR@[removed] if you're interested in ordering.   

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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:24:23 +0000
From: "F. Charles Simar" <FCharlesSimar@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Shadow
Message-ID: <[removed]@DEFAULT>
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Now that we have someone that is an avid Shadow collector, could you please
tell me 
the airdate of the episode "The Tomb Of Terror".  Thanx.  8'>

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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 11:26:42 -0400
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: ORCA of Canada
Message-ID: <960922112641_290487349@[removed]>

Charlies Laughton made reference to the apparently defunct Sudbury, Ontario
[removed] of Canada not to be confused with ORCA of England (which is
actually in the [removed] now).
Reg Hubert as I recall, was the driving force behind that Canadian old time
radio club, and actually made one of the who's who in Canada books several
years ago.

If anyone has heard from Reg, I'd be interested in a current [removed] sort
of owe the guy a favor  :-)

As a dealer for the last however many years, I've had sort of an unofficial,
unpublished policy of *NOT* charging extra postage to Canadian addresses, and
more often than not, sending Air Mail at my expense.   It is extremely
difficult to get OTR interest from those in Canada (probably for fear of
extra charges, customs problems, etc.).  I have often thought about setting
up a post office box in Windsor Ontario (just across the river from me) to
try to encourage interest.  I have maybe 500 OTR people in Canada on my
mailing list and can count on one hand, those who seem responsive.

Btw, I've never had problems sending OTR tapes to [removed] any country
for that matter.  Usually mark something on the customs slip like "cultural
exchange - vintage radio programs - no commercial value"  then for a dollar
amount, use the cost of blank tape.

Bob Burnham,    BRC Productions,   Platecap@[removed]




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