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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2009 : Issue 52
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      RE: Johnny Dollar's Expense Account   [ Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed]; ]
      Two Johnny Dollars ...                [ "Wayne Johnson" <wayne_johnson@mind ]
      Re: Johnny Dollar must have had a wa  [ John Abbott <mraastro@[removed]; ]
      Ireene Wicker, The Singing Lady       [ K & J Hammel <haml@[removed]; ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed]; ]
      Paul Harvey "invents" the News        [ Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed] ]
      Radio vs. TV Soaps, Etc.              [ "David C. Tucker" <dcm32@[removed]; ]
      Gabriel Heater                        [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      3-9 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Re: You Bet Your Life                 [ Randy Watts <rew1014@[removed]; ]
      Recycled plots                        [ ronplumb@[removed] ]
      Fred MacMurray                        [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      more on Mr. Paul Harvey               [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
      My Crystal Set                        [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
      Hollywood Theatre                     [ "Mike Harron" <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      Re: Og Son of Fire                    [ FabFicBks@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:55:37 -0500
    From: Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE: Johnny Dollar's Expense Account

    Where'd he get the money is what Chris Holm was [removed]

    It still is the case that consultants with regular client companies can get
    it from various places, including credit cards.

    First, you may have an ongoing business that allows you to do it. I don't
    know if we ever get a glimpse of Johnny's per diem (daily rate) amount. But I
    think it must have been quite good.

    Second, many of Johnny's clients were regular users of his services. Though
    it's never said, he might have been on retainer, which is a monthly fee paid
    just to have you on call or as a prepayment for services that might be
    required.

    Third, Johnny could have had them put up money in advance. As a consultant
    myself, in a totally different field, clients pay 50% up front.

    Fourth, he could have used credit cards. Diner's Club was started in 1949,
    and American Express cards came into use at the end of 1958. Surely Johnny
    would have been on the cutting edge of expense technology for his time, and
    was probably an early Diner's Club member. Cards were not accepted
    everywhere, of course, as they are today. So he probably handled things in
    all three [removed] out of pocket and reimbursed later, against an advance
    payment, and on credit card and reimbursed later.

    We know Johnny had quite a business. There's never an episode where he's
    looking for work. Even when he tries to go fishing, there's always a dead
    body around or some swindler to spoil the day.

    Perhaps the series should have been called "It's a Billable Life" as Johnny
    found ways to bill everything short of breathing back to his client.

    And to think he did it all without Quicken :)

    Regards to all
    Joe W

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:56:12 -0500
    From: "Wayne Johnson" <wayne_johnson@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Two Johnny Dollars ...

    An interesting moment ... two Johnny Dollars on the same screen!

    [removed]

    Its a free, on-line viewing of Birdman of Alcatraz.  Edmond O'brien (one of
    the first actors to play the part of Johnny Dollar) appears at the beginning
    and end as well as narrates the movie.

    Two hours and 24 minutes into the movie (you can skip to that time instead
    of watching the entire movie) is the final scene.  "Birdman" is being
    transfered and is met on the docks by 3 reporters.

    The Internet Movie Databas  ([removed]) states that one of these
    reporters is Robert Bailey ... the BOB Bailey who also played Johnny Dollar
    starting in 1955.

    My guess (from the few photos of him that I have seen) as to which reporter
    is Bailey is the one with the salt-and-pepper overcoat and dark hat with no
    hat band, on the right side of the screen as they start walking towards the
    camera.  But when this man speaks, the voice is not the voice I have always
    known from Johnny Dollar and Let George do it.

    Can anyone recognize Bob Bailey?  Is he one of the three reporters and is he
    the one that I think that he is?

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:56:26 -0500
    From: John Abbott <mraastro@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Johnny Dollar must have had a wad of them
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    Chris asked how Johnny Dollar financed his expenses, and it is a good
    question.

    The first reference of travelers checks the I can find is in "The Midas Touch
    Matter", from July 1956.  Three years later in July 1959, Johnny mentions
    using a personal American Express card in "The Cautious Celibate Matter".

    Going back even earlier, to very beginning, Johnny was often forced to take
    cases because the "wolf was at the door".

    Like so many things in OTR, the messy little details of how things got paid
    for is a mystery.  Johnny may have had an operating account at the bank, or he
    may have been given an advance.  How a person got paid or took care of the
    basic necessities of life were overlooked in favor of a 30 minute program.

    But the lack of details only makes listening more enjoyable because we are not
    bothered by the messy little details.

    John C. Abbott

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:56:34 -0500
    From: K & J Hammel <haml@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ireene Wicker, The Singing Lady

    Does anyone have any idea why Ireene Wicker and Kellogg's parted company?
    They appear to have done so in late 1938.

    I believe she started her 15 min. show for kids (and Kellogg's), "The Singing
    Lady" in 1931.  As far as I can tell, the show was quite popular.  It appears
    she took a brief break once Kellogg's cancelled her show, but stayed a staple
    on radio, and later television, for a couple decades after she and Kellogg's
    were no longer a team.

    Just curious.

    Thanks,

    Kathy

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:56:42 -0500
    From: Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

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    HOWDY- DOODY TIME
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    Starring: Phil Harris, Alice Faye, Elliott Lewis, Jeanine Roose, Anne
    Whitfield, Walter Tetley, John Hubbard, The Sportsmen, Bill Forman
    announcing.
    Sponsor: RCA

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    Starring: Phil Harris, Alice Faye, Elliott Lewis, Jeanine Roose, Anne
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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:57:52 -0500
    From: Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Paul Harvey "invents" the News

    On Paul Harvey, Jr's comment that his mom and dad "invented" modern news:

    As another current radio commentator who is in the news lately likes to say,
    "Most people think history starts with the day that they're born."

    But I think we should all give PH, Jr a break. One, it was said through grief
    and two, it was said by a son who was very proud of his parents. We should
    all be so loved and admired by our offspring.

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:58:13 -0500
    From: "David C. Tucker" <dcm32@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio vs. TV Soaps, Etc.

    I've read much (especially in Jim Cox's excellent books) about the time in
    1960 when radio soap opera came to an end. Now I'm wondering if, 50 years
    later, the same thing will happen to TV soap operas. An article I read
    recently said that the remaining daytime soaps have falling ratings (a
    fraction of what they were in the 1980s), drastically reduced budgets, and
    are firing actors right and left to cut costs. Does it seem as if some of the
    same things are getting ready to happen to broadcast TV in 2010 that happened
    to radio 50 years earlier?

    David

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:59:35 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gabriel Heater

>     When I finally came across a Heatter newscast from the night that
>     Israel was created in April 1948 I realized he had absolutely the
>     same vocal style as Harvey later used.

    That was 14 May 1948.  Or perhaps 15 May by the time it got broadcast
    here.  The actual ceremony was about 4:00 PM Tel Aviv time.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:09:58 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-9 births/deaths

    March 9th births

    03-09-1893 - Ara Gerald - Sydney, Australia - d. 4-2-1957
    actor: Countess Florenza "Our Gal Sunday"
    03-09-1901 - Oscar Race - d. 10-xx-1981
    pianist: (Race and Ballin) WOR Newark, New Jersey
    03-09-1902 - Robert St. John - Chicago, IL - d. 2-6-2003
    newscaster: 1943-46, NBC, weekdays at 10 [removed]
    03-09-1902 - Will Geer - Franfort, IN - d. 4-22-1978
    actor: Penny "Bright Horizon"
    03-09-1909 - Victor Seydel - d. 8-xx-1973
    director: "Counterspy"
    03-09-1911 - Leopold Proser - d. 2-xx-1981
    writer: "The Columbia Workshop"
    03-09-1912 - Ned Le Fevre - Indiana - d. 6-10-1966
    actor: Ned Holden "The Guiding Light"; Jonathan Kegg "A Life in Your
    Hands"
    03-09-1912 - Ray Darby - Edmonton, Canada - d. 1-xx-1982
    radio script writer: "American School of the Air"
    03-09-1914 - Fred Clark - Lincoln, CA - d. 12-5-1968
    actor: "This Is Your FBI"; "Amos 'n' Andy Show"
    03-09-1918 - Marguerite Chapman - Chatham, NY - d. 8-30-1999
    actor: "Family Theatre"; "Silver Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    03-09-1918 - Mickey Spillane - Brooklyn NY - d. 7-17-2006
    writer: "That Hammer Guy" based on his novels
    03-09-1920 - Jerry Byrd - Lima, OH - d. 4-11-2005
    steel guitarist: "Country Music Time"; "March of Dimes"
    03-09-1921 - Carl Betz - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-18-1978
    disk jockey: WCAE Pittsburgh
    03-09-1926 - Joe Franklin - NYC
    disc jockey: "Joe Franklin's Memory Lane"; "Main Street Memories"
    03-09-1932 - Keely Smith - Norfolk, VA
    singer: "Guard Session"; "Here's to Veterans"
    03-09-1934 - Joyce Van Patten - Queens, NY
    actor: Daisy "Reg'lar Fellers"

    March 9th deaths

    01-07-1913 - Shirley Ross - Omaha, NE - d. 3-9-1975
    actor, singer: "Raleigh and Kool Cigarette Program with Tommy Dorsey"
    01-20-1896 - George Burns - NYC - d. 3-9-1996
    comedian: "Advs. of Gracie"; "George Burns and Gracie Allen Show"
    03-15-1883 - Ernie Hare - Norfolk, VA - d. 3-9-1939
    singer: (The Happiness Boys)
    04-15-1907 - Casper Reardon - Little Falls, NY - d. 3-9-1941
    jazz harpist: "Camel Caravan"; "Kraft Music Hall"
    04-28-1892 - Joseph Dunninger - NYC - d. 3-9-1975
    mentalist: (Master Mind of Mental Mystery) "Dunninger Show"
    06-11-1900 - Lawrence Spivak - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-9-1994
    moderator, panelist: "Meet the Press"
    07-02-1914 - Clint Alley - d. 3-9-1994
    sportscaster: WKOY West Virginia
    07-08-1917 - Faye Emerson - Elizabeth, NJ - d. 3-9-1983
    actor: "My Silent Partner"
    07-16-1907 - Ned Calmer - Chicago, IL - d. 3-9-1986
    news analyst: "World News Roundup"
    07-30-1922 - Meredith Davies - Birkenhead, England - d. 3-9-2005
    conductor: "City of Birmingham Choir"
    08-08-1930 - Terry Nation - South Wales - d. 3-9-1997
    comedy writer: "Goon Show"
    08-25-1913 - Bob Crosby - Spokane, WA - d. 3-9-1993
    bandleader, singer: "Camel Caravan"; "Bob Crosby Show"; "Jack Benny
    Program"
    10-09-1915 - Edward Andrews - Griffin, GA - d. 3-9-1985
    actor: Nat "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
    11-17-1918 - Paul Crabtree - Pulaski, VA - d. 3-9-1979
    actor: David Naughton "Claudia and David"
    12-22-1905 - Martha Bohlsen - Nebraska - d. 3-9-1984
    cooking show host: "Kitchen Club"

    Ron

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    Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:11:59 -0400
    From: Randy Watts <rew1014@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: You Bet Your Life

>     Did the radio version of You Bet Your Life
>     ever just use the soundtrack from the TV version?

    The YOU BET YOUR LIFE radio shows were recorded as the television shows were
    being filmed, but the two were always edited seperately.

    Randy

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    Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:12:12 -0400
    From: ronplumb@[removed]
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Recycled plots

    While listening to The Shadow radio show "Nightmare at Gaelsberry" it began
    to sound familiar.  After about about 10 I remembered where I had heard the
    story before - it's the same story as "The Kettler Method" from Suspense
    There are too many similarities between the stories to be coincidences.
    Also, the Suspense show was written by Peter Barry who was a very prolific
    writer of The Shadow (on radio), Suspense, and other radio and TV shows.

    I'd be interested in seeing other recycled plots posted here.

    Ron Plumb

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    Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:12:35 -0400
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fred MacMurray
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           I heard an announcement by Fred MacMurray at the end of one of the
    "Information Please" episodes recently.  It seemed to be very heartfelt and
    sincere.  I can't remember any programs he was in on OTR.  He must have
    done some work on programs such as "Lux Radio Theatre", "Suspense",
    and similar programs.  Are there any programs in which he performed which
    you would suggest?

    As always,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:13:06 -0400
    From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  more on Mr. Paul Harvey
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    *When Paul Harvey passed a way on Saturday,a week ago, WGN  covered his
    death and spent hours paying tribute to him and talking to radio
    personalities and his friends remember what a wonderful man he was. One
    story or should I say "here's the rest of the story"that showed how
    important he was to ABC, was how he stayed in Chicago.
     Many years ago ABC decided that all the programing  should be located
    in New York. When Paul was told that he would have to go to NYC, He told
    the bosses "no" I'll stay in Chicago., and he did. ABC Chicago Studios
    and offices are locate on State St. across the street from the Chicago
    Theater. ABC gave Paul a studio with a chair, a table and microphone
    and offices, an Engineer and his secretary of many years. His broadcasts
    were the radio program from ABC Chicago. He did broadcast from Arizona too.
    He was a mid westerner, and stayed one.
    Frank McGurn
    *

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    Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:13:16 -0400
    From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  My Crystal Set

    In 1940 or 1941 I had a Crystal Set it was about 3" x 4" and about 1"
    thick a green metal box.
    We lived in suburb next to Chicago. We had a great radio, with a
    speaker, and no antenna. Just plug it in to an outlet. My parents bought
    it in the in the 20's. It was in a beautiful wood cabinet.

    Being 11 or 12 year old I wanted a radio in my room. Some of my friends
    had crystal sets that cost about $[removed] or $.[removed] To us they were a
    novelty. so I saved my allowances and bought one. It came assembled ,
    with ear phones, but no antenna a must. so I bought  coated copper wire
    and strung  the wire  from a tree in the back yard to my bedroom window.
    attached the ear phone and the antenna and listed --nothing it was day
    light. So I kept moving the cat's whisker location on the crystal and
    moving a lever that made contact on bear copper wire that was attached
    to the crystal. got someone talking but it was hard to [removed] listened
    every night.

    At night heard local radio stations, but out town station overlapped. So
    by changing the position of cat's whisker and weather conditions help to
    get only fair reception. It was fun to try to DX, but my sister got
    married and he small radio behind  and that was the end of the Crystal Set.

    Frank McGurn

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    Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:13:39 -0400
    From: "Mike Harron" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hollywood Theatre
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    I have found a number of Cavalcade of America shows where the end of show
    announcement includes 'Hollywood Theatre, starring xxxxxxxx coming up next on
    NBC'. The earliest example of this that I've found so far is in episode 711 on
    51/09/25. I have verified the show, and its spelling, in the newspaper
    listings. For example, the NY Times listing for 51/09/25 shows "8:30 WNBC
    Hollywood Theatre: The Cold Brow of Death, with Douglas Fairbanks Jr.".

    Does anyone have information on this show, and any of the episodes of it
    between the date above and 52/02/26?
    Mike

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    Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:37:27 -0400
    From: FabFicBks@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Og Son of Fire

    As an aside to the comments on Og Son of Fire, the  radio show, I have an
    acquaintance who actually has stacks of transcriptions  from the Og radio
    program.  He bought all of them along with a  transcription player purchased
    specifically to listen to the disks back in the  late early 1970s.

        He paid pretty good money for these things, and as  a result he will not
    let any copies of them out, but he would probably sell  them, since he's
    getting well up in years, except that now that all the radio  dealers have
    been put
    out of business by the internet and the MP3 format, nobody  is in a position
    to scrape up enough money to buy these and get them out to the  hobby.

        I suspect there are other cases like this, where  some collector paid
    good money for disks and now finds he has no way to recoop  his investment,
    and
    has instead decided to take the material to the grave with  him.

    ---Bob Jennings

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