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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2012 : Issue 24
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Thank you to Jack French              [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
  This week in radio history 5-11 Febr  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Nixon's the one!                      [ Derek Tague <thatderek@[removed]; ]
  The Shadow on LOVE STORY              [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Tune In Yesterday                     [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  2-5 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  The Lone Ranger                       [ A Joseph Ross <joe@[removed] ]
  The Lone Ranger and Tune in Yesteste  [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed]; ]

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:12:01 -0500
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:19:51 -0500
From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Thank you to Jack French

Regarding the recent posts concerning how the misinformation surrounding the
supposed first name of the Lone Ranger originated, Jack French was kind
enough to enlighten all of us by pointing out that "The Big Broadcast" by
Buxton and Owens (who later founded the B&O railroad for Derek Tague) was
not the first book they put out with the error.  All of you who wrote to say
it was "Radio's Golden Age" are correct.  I wrote Jack to thank him
personally.  I was pretty sure there was an earlier version of "The Big
Broadcast", but I couldn't come up with the name.
As for the best source of information about the radio program, while John
Dunning's book is thorough, nothing can compare to the Dave Holland book,
"From Out of the Past".  This book too is out of print, but those willing to
spend some time and a little money will find it well worth their effort.

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:20:04 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history 5-11 February

 From Those Were The Days

2/5

1931   Eddie Cantor's long radio career got underway as he appeared on
Rudy Vallee's The Fleischmann Hour.

1940   Amanda of Honeymoon Hill debuted. Joy Hathaway starred as 'the
beauty of flaming red hair'. The program stayed for six years on NBC.

2/6

1950   NBC first broadcast Dangerous Assignment. The show starred Brian
Donlevy in the role of soldier of fortune, Steve Mitchell.

2/8

1924   John Joseph Carty of the Bell Telephone System spoke in Chicago,
IL. His speech was carried across the nation on the first coast to coast
radio hookup. An estimated 50 million people heard the speech.

2/11

1940   NBC presented The Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street for
the first time. The famous Blue network series included several
distinguished alumni among them, Dinah Shore and Zero Mostel. The
chairman, or host, of The Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street
was Milton Cross. He would say things like, "A Bostonian looks like he's
smelling something. A New Yorker looks like he's found it." The show
combined satire, blues and jazz and was built around what were called
the three Bs of music: Barrelhouse, Boogie Woogie and Blues.

Joe

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:20:13 -0500
From: Derek Tague <thatderek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Nixon's the one!

Lone Ranger historian and regular OTR Digest poster Jim Nixon knows what he's
talking about Ranger-wise. I've had the privelege of moderating two panels
with Jim at various FOTR conventions. One was "A Hunourous Look at the Lone
Ranger" in which we played various audio-parodies and welcomed anecdotes from
Ranger stock players Richard "Dick" Beals, Elaine Hyman, and Fred Foy, a good
friend of Jim's Years later, it was "Ten Little-Known Facts about the Lone
Ranger" in which Jim presented audioclips of little-known Wyxie-ana such as
the LR's encounters with historical figures, his having a pre-Silver horse
named "Dusty," & the one show where WXYZ announcer Myron/Mike Wallace played
a bad guy.

During the "Humourous" panel in 2000, I was about to announce Mr. Nixon as
"the world's leading authority on the Lone Ranger," but in a moment of
self-effacement, Jim told me he had always deferred to  Dave Holland and
Terry Salomonson. With that in mind, I did a spin on  Milton Berle's old line
"Sex isn't everything ... but isn't three or four either" and introduced Jim
"This gentleman seated to my right may not be the world's leading authority
on 'the Lone Ranger' ... but he ain't four or five either. ..."

Dave Holland has since passed on making the world's two leading Lone Ranger
authorities and historians Messrs. Salomonson and Nixon. They both regularly
post on this forum and they're two of the nicest guys in the hobby.
Appreciate them.

Yours in the ether,

Derek Tague

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:20:29 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Shadow on LOVE STORY

For the record, I have a copy of that same RADIO GUIDE blurb from 1931.
It does NOT state The Shadow was the host of the program. It

merely indicates that he was on the program. It is never clarified what
his role on the program was, nor are the words "host" or

"narrator" used to describe what he did. To state he was the host is still an
"assumption." A copy of a LOVE STORY radio script

exists, and was shown on the big screen during a slide show presentation at
the 2011 Pulpfest Convention this past July/August,

and Anthony Tollin was present at the event (he even won an award for his
work). The script verifies on the last page that

The Shadow was only a spokesman at the conclusion of the broadcast, after the
drama concluded, pitching his SHADOW MAGAZINE.

Nothing more.

Last year SPERDVAC's Radiogram printed a multi-page article about the
LOVE STORY PROGRAM, excerpts from my SHADOW book, describing

in detail the subject that has been recently discussed on the Digest. It went
into detail, verifying The Shadow's minimal

involvement about his commercial pitches on the LOVE STORY MAGAZINE HOUR
 (by the way, that's the correct title, not LOVE STORY HOUR

or LOVE STORY PROGRAM). It was my assumption that when the article and my
book went to print, it would help clarify The Shadow's

role. I remember receiving e-mails from a number of people after the
article went to print, including one from Karl Schadow, who

recently won the 2011 Ray Stanich Award and is a quiet, unsung
researcher of old-time radio, and one of only three or four people

who I consider an authority on the radio program. Karl, who I had not heard
from in years until he read my article, told me he

too suspected all these years that The Shadow was never the narrator and all
the evidence he had, which turned out to be almost

everything I had (hard paper copy material), indicated the same as I wrote in
the magazine article. The Shadow was a spokesman

for his magazine.

While typing this posting for the Digest, I just showed Gary Lowe, a friend
of mine and a frequent OTR Convention attendee the
same as I described above and after seeking the RADIO GUIDE blurb, he too
agreed, "it doesn't say he was the host." Gary even
added, "I am sure if The Shadow was a host on the program, it would have said
he was the host."

As for Lamont Cranston's first appearance in the pulps, I was mistaken. It
was "The Eyes of The Shadow," not "The Red Menace."

That slipped past me before it went to print. There is no book, mine or
anyone else's, that doesn't have a few errors. Thankfully,

I had that corrected in a recent magazine article about the radio
incarnation of Lamont Cranston. And in the next printing of the

book, that and three other mistakes that slipped past me will also be
corrected. But certainly not the addition of anything that

is still "rumored" or an "assumption."

My apologies if I am being brash about this. I am working on scanning
the 1931 RADIO GUIDE and the LOVE STORY MAGAZINE HOUR script

for a future blog post on my web-site to set the record straight.
[removed]

Martin

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:20:46 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Tune In Yesterday

Dick Malone recommended TUNE IN YESTERDAY, a book he purchased in 1976, as
"complete, thorough and accurate."

Actually, John Dunning did a revised and expanded version of the same book
called ON THE AIR and material about
THE LONE RANGER was tweaked, revised, corrected and expanded from the earlier
book (as has most of the program
entries on other radio shows, not just THE LONE RANGER). The book is thicker
and has
more material, about twice the material from the former. It's also cheaper
and more cost effective to buy the
newer book. It's been mentioned on the OTR Digest that it was $25 at one time.
Martin

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:20:52 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  2-5 births/deaths

February 5th births

02-05-1884 - Joan Harvey - Bangalore, India - d. 11-5-1965
writer: "The Hidden Valley"
02-05-1893 - Carlton Coon - Rochester, MN - d. 5-4-1932
bandleader: (Coon-Sanders Nighthawks) "Florsheim Frolic"
02-05-1898 - Sidney Fields - Milwaukee, WI - d. 9-28-1975
comic, comedy writer: "Abbott and Costello Show"; "It's Time to Smile"
02-05-1901 - Arthur Sheekman - Chicago, IL - d. 1-12-1978
writer: "The Marx Brothers"
02-05-1906 - John Carradine - NYC - d. 11-27-1988
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-05-1908 - Aleen Leslie - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 2-2-2010
created "A Date with Judy"
02-05-1908 - Bob Dunn - Fort Gibson, OK - d. 5-27-1971
steel guitar: "The Musical Brownies"
02-05-1911 - Bert Wilson - d. 11-5-1955
chicago cubs play-by-play announcer 1944-1955
02-05-1912 - Tex Atchison - Rosine, KY - d. 8-4-1982
singer: (Prairie Ramblers) "Smile-a-While"
02-05-1918 - Tim Holt - Beverly Hills, CA - d. 2-15-1973
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-05-1919 - Red Buttons - NYC - d. 7-13-2006
actor: "Guest Star"; "Friar's Club Roast"
02-05-1934 - Hank Aaron - Mobile, AL
baseball legend: "Baseball: An Action History"; "Tops In Sports"
02-05-1941 - David Selby - Morgantown, WV
actor: "Empire of the Air"
02-05-1942 - Susan Hill - Scarborough, England
writer: "Miss Lavender Is Dead"

February 5th deaths

01-16-1907 - John Hiestand - Madison, WI - d. 2-5-1987
announcer: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Cinnamon Bear"; "Feg Murray Show"
02-11-1909 - Joseph L. Mankiewicz - Wilkes-Barre, PA - d. 2-5-1993
screenwriter, film director: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
02-14-1905 - Thelma Ritter - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-5-1969
actor: "Aldrich Family"; "Big Town "; "McGarry and His Mouse"
02-17-1905 - Kuda Bux - Kashmir, India - d. 2-5-1981
magician: "Believe It or Not"
02-18-1907 - Griffing Bancroft - d. 2-5-1999
newscaster: "The Big News of 1957"
03-13-1909 - Herbert Kline - Davenport, IA - d. 2-5-1999
worked for a loyalist radio station in Madrid during the Spanish
revolution
03-31-1921 - Peggy Rea - Los Angles, CA - d. 2-5-2011
actor: "Gunsmoke"
04-10-1868 - George Arliss - London, England - d. 2-5-1946
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-11-1902 - Carroll Carroll - NYC - d. 2-5-1991
writer: "Over Here"; "Guest Star"
05-04-1913 - Carroll Moore, Jr. - Somerville, MA - d. 2-5-1977
writer: "The Henry Morgan Show"
05-09-1912 - Rupert Pray - d. 2-5-1973
writer: "Forever Ernest"
05-27-1916 - Analee Whitmore - Price, UT - d. 2-5-2002
panelist: (Wife of Clifton Fadiman) "Information Please"
06-10-1909 - Larry LeSueur - NYC - d. 2-5-2003
CBS news correspondent: "This Week in Europe"; "The World Today"
06-18-1920 - Ian Carmichael - Hull, Yorkshire, England - d. 2-5-2010
actor: Lord Peter Wimsey "Five Red Herrings" and other Sayers stories
06-29-1908 - John Hench - Cedar Rapids, IA - d. 2-5-2004
actor: Stanley Gilman "Those Happy Gilmans"
07-06-1905 - Pauline Drake - Denver, CO - d. 2-5-1981
actor: Bessie "Great Gildersleeve"; "Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"
07-22-1912 - Orren Allen - d. 2-5-1993
sportscaster: WKAN Kankakee, Illinois
11-04-1914 - Court Benson - Vancouver, Canada - d. 2-5-1995
announcer, narrator: "Tennessee Jed"; "Backstage Wife"
11-07-1903 - Dean Jagger - Lima, OH - d. 2-5-1991
actor: "Crisis in War Town"; "Columbia Workshop"; "Cavalcade of America"
12-01-1896 - Ethel Shutta - NYC - d. 2-5-1976
singer-comedian: "Jack Benny Program"
12-08-1910 - Ruth Matteson - San Jose, CA - d. 2-5-1975
actor: Nicole Scott "Against the Storm"
12-10-1893 - Lew Brown - Odessa, Russia - d. 2-5-1958
producer: "Music for Millions"
12-13-1914 - Tiger Haynes - Fredriksted, St. Croix - d. 2-5-1994
guitarist: (The Three Flames) "Scout About Town"; "Peter Donald Show"

Ron

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:21:45 -0500
From: A Joseph Ross <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Lone Ranger

However, B&  O did invent the radio envyclopaedia. Other books like Dunning's
have come along and have superseded "The Big Broadcast" in both scope and
authority.

But Dunning's encyclopedia also contains the error of the Lone Ranger
being John Reid.  It also contains other errors, including the complete
omission of the radio versions of Space Patrol and Howdy Doody and the
syndicated "The Comic Weekly Man" and an incorrect date for the end of
the radio version of "You Bet Your Life."

Yes, that error is in the cited book, but that's not the first time
these two authors introduced us to "John Reid." Their earlier book,
"Radio's Golden Age" (Eastern Valley Press, 1966) contained that
identical entry.

I thought the date was 1966.  It's been mentioned in this forum from
time to time over the years.

In 1976, John Dunning wrote and published a Book titled "
Tune In Yesterday"
The Ultimate Encyclopedia of "Old Time Radio" ( I purchased my  copy in
1976 and have used it ever since)  The information about OTR   is
unbelieveable. Complete, thorough and accurate. The Book is no longer in
print, however
there are numerous used copies  out there. Start with Amazon  ( some are not
too costly either).

So how come Dunning's 1998 Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio contains the
errors I mentioned earlier, including the "John Reid" error?

Actually, my father made the error about the Lone Ranger's name back in
the 1950s, long before any of these books, but he only told it to me.
It happened like this.  I happened into the livingroom one evening to
find my dad listening to the Lone Ranger on the large radio which now
graces my livingroom (I think our TV was being repaired).  I stopped and
listened, and heard that the LR was talking to someone who knew him 'way
back when and was calling him "Reid."  I had read the Cheereos
mini-comic book of the LR's origin and been frustrated that the LR's
first name was never mentioned.  So I asked if they had ever mentioned
the LR's first name on that program. My dad said that his name was "John
Reid."   I accepted that, was satisfied, and for years thought I knew
the LR's first name. And I wasn't at all surprised to see that name in
the 1981 movie.  When I read Jim Harmon's "The Great Radio Heros," and
his description of an episode in which the LR goes after the outlaw gang
of "Ace Perigon," I recognized this as the episode that my dad had been
listening to.

Then sometime in the 1990s, when I had joined this forum, the discussion
of the Lone Ranger's name came up. I insisted, based on my dad's answer
to my question, that the name John had been revealed in that episode.
Someone finally sent me a tape, and I listed to it immediately.  I
noticed that the villain's name was "Ace Lattimer," rather than
"Perigon" in the episode as broadcast. And after careful listening, I
had to admit that the name John was not mentioned even once.
Unfortunately I could no longer ask my father where he got the name
"John." and if I could, I suspect he wouldn't have known.  My best guess
is that he might have been thinking of the ubiquitous TV personality of
those days, John Reed King, but that's just a guess.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                     [removed]
92 State Street, Suite 700          Fax: [removed]
Boston, MA 02109-2004     [removed]

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:21:53 -0500
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Lone Ranger and Tune in Yestesterday

Dick Malone suggests that John Dunning's 1976 book "Tune in Yesterday" is the
definitive reference work on OTR, the place where one can find out the facts
about The Lone Ranger.

No, it's not. For one thing, Dunning published "On the Air: The Encyclopedia
of Old Time Radio", which supersedes "Tune in Yesterday", in 1998. Though I
wouldn't discard "Tune in Yesterday" by any means. It's still a useful
reference work.

For another, those books focus on OTR in general, so can only devote a few
pages to each show (sometimes less). In contrast, a wealth of "Lone
Ranger"-specific information can be found in "From Out of The Past" by Dave
Holland (c. 400 pages) and "The Lone Ranger Log" by Terry Salomonson (258
pages).

The same holds true about other such books by OTR experts about specific
shows. Said books will have much more information about the show in question
than an encyclopedia.

Rick

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:22:23 -0500
From: Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

Hi Friends,

Here is this week's schedule for my Olde Tyme Radio Network. Here you
may listen to high-quality broadcasts with Tom Heathwood's "Heritage
Radio Theatre," Bob Bro's "The Old Time Radio Show," John and Larry
Gassman's "Same Time Station," Duane Keilstrup's "Classics and Curios"
and my own "Old Time Radio Classics."  Streamed in high-quality audio,
on demand, 24/7 at [removed]
Check out our High-Quality mp3 catalog at:
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Check our our Transcription Disc scans at:
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OLD TIME RADIO CLASSICS

FIREFIGHTERS
  Episode 1 11-14-49 "Tim Collins' First Day"
  Stars: Lyle Sudro, Cameron Prud'Homme
  Syndicated by William F. Holland Productions, Inc.

FIREFIGHTERS
  Episode 2 11-15-49 "False Alarms"
  Stars: Lyle Sudro, Cameron Prud'Homme
  Syndicated by William F. Holland Productions, Inc.

TOP SECRET
  Episode 7 7-23-50 "Midnight For Danger"
  Stars: Iona Massey, billed in the program as "gorgeous Iona Massey", a
government agent.
  With: Peter Capell, Andrew Dugan, Theo Gertz, Earl Hammond, Ronald
Long, Ruth Yorke
  Announcer: Fred Collins
  Producer / Director: Harry W. Junken
  Scripts: Harry W. Junken, Allen Sloane.
  FROM: New York
  NBC Sustained

THE FORD THEATER
  Episode 59 2-18-49 "Shadow Of A Doubt"
  Stars: Ann Blythe, Ray Milland.
  Authors: Thornton Wilder, Sally Benson.
  Host: Fletcher Markle

CALLING ALL DETECTIVES
  The casebook of Jerry Browning, Private Detective
  Episode 229 7-27-48 "Trouble Shooter-Shooter"
  MUTUAL - WGN CHICAGO Mondays through Fridays 10:15 - 10:30 pm
==================================

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE

THE LUX RADIO THEATRE
  (CBS) 03/21/38
  "The Man Who Played God" starring George Arlis.
  A famed pianist suffers a great loss but finds a new way to live. A
heartwarming tale.

WALTER WINCHELL'S JOURNAL
  (ABC) 3/27/49
  America's favorite Sunday Night reporter with exclusive stories. Long
time radio and print journalist.
====================================

THE OLD TIME RADIO SHOW

TALES OF THE TEXAS RANGERS (NBC)
  Title: Clean Up
  Original Air: 9/30/50
  Starring: Joel McCrea as Ranger Jase Pearson

THE LIFE OF RILEY (MUTUAL)
  Title: Riley, The Crime Buster"
  Original Air: 4/3/48
  Starring: William Bendix, John Brown

GUNSMOKE (CBS)
  Title: Big Broad
  Original Air: 2/6/54
  Starring: William Conrad, Parley Baer, Georgia Ellis
====================================

SAME TIME, SAME STATION

  On December 30, 1936, the beginning of the Jack Benny Fred Allen Feud
was born. The young boy responsible was 10 year-old Stuart Canin. Fred
Allen had him on the show to play a violin piece. When he finished Allen
made an off-hand remark about how a 10 year-old boy could play better
than jack Benny.

  We will hear that FRED ALLEN SHOW
  in the first hour of the program.

  In our second hour we'll hear a few more excerpts with Stuart Canin,
and then we'll chat with him for the remainder of the program about the
feud and about his incredible career following the 2936 broadcast.
====================================
CLASSICS & CURIOS

"Echoes of Songs and Laughter"

Episode 13

  Frank Sinatra and Judy Garland host "The Danny Kaye Show" of October
4, 1945. A special feature of the show is a fun original musical called
"My Minute Romance" with Frank and Judy singing love songs as well as
bringing us laughter and great memories.

  Rudy Vallee Presents the Drene Show from September 27, 1945 with
special guest Frank Sinatra, along with Billie Burke and Xavier Cugat.
On Rudy's show, a week before Frank's appearance on "The Danny Kaye
Show" Rudy and Frank stage a "Battle of the Crooners" with lots of
laughs. Then listen to Classics & Curios Extras with an air-check of
Frank's "Learn to Croon" and Rudy's "Kitty from Kansas City" and more.
====================================

If you have any questions or request, please feel free to contact me.

      Jerry Haendiges

      Jerry@[removed]  562-696-4387
      The Vintage Radio Place   [removed]
      Largest source of Old Time Radio Logs, Articles and programs on
the Net

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