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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 164
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Eastern War Time [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Wendy Warren and the News [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Re: TiVo and OTR [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
Pieces Parts [ "Shawn A. Wells" <[removed]@netzero ]
Re: My final answer [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
Re: Hollywood and Vine [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Frank Edwards [ Kathleen Newman <kn4@[removed] ]
Mae West Scandal [ kclarke5@[removed] ]
re: Piggy Banks [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
5-13 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
This weekend with Walden Hughes [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
"Sounds Vintage" magazine [ zbob@[removed] ]
Magnificent Bear [ "steven kostelecky" <skostelecky@ho ]
Cinevent Convention [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:07:20 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Eastern War Time
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:52:36 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
Irene also asked for an explanation of Eastern War Time. Others will
offer more comprehensive answers but it was essentially a pattern of
moving the clocks forward one hour to make greater use of daylight (a
prelude to DST) during WWII,
As I heard it from my parents, War Time involved turning the clocks forward
in the winter as
well as the summer. I'm not clear on this part, but they may have turned the
clocks yet
another hour ahead during the summer.
This happened again for awhile in the early 70s, during the energy crisis,
where daylight
saving time was observed through the winter, in the hope of saving energy.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:07:58 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wendy Warren and the News
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:30:21 -0400
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
Wendy was on CBS (with Doug Edwards, sharing the news portion) from
June 23, 1947 to November 12, 1958 so that was over eleven years for
this soap opera heroine.
When I heard Wendy Warren sometime around 1954 or 1955, Wendy Warren
delivered the
newscast herself, for a few minutes, at the end of the show. After returning
from a
commercial, the announcer said, "And now, Wendy Warren and the News!" And
Wendy
Warren (or the acress who played the part) read the news.
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:08:41 -0400
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: TiVo and OTR
Commenting on the pros and cons of using TiVo to record appearances by radio
stars on television, Sean Dougherty wrote:
It also missed the recent TV special on Jack Webb, although it did give me
the episode of Adam-12 that followed it (Webb directed it).
Missing the special is understandable - it was an episode of TV LAND's new
mini-series "TV Moguls" and Webb was only one of four producers covered. I
watched it for the first time yesterday - it gave a fairly good recounting of
his career that barely mntioned his work in radio (DRAGNET excepted, of
course). It was great to see Herb Ellis and the late Herm Saunders offer
their insight, albeit in sound bites lasting mere seconds. Of course, some
people had to "quote" Joe Friday's "Just the facts, ma'am" - too bad he never
actually said it.
Sean, I'm surprised that TiVo caught the ADAM-12 episode, but apparently not
the DRAGNET that followed. Amazingly, the episode was not from the 1967-70
revival series, but a b&w one from 1955-56 called "The Big No Suicide" (one
of the few that season that was not based on a radio script). I'd never seen
it before, and if not for the time compression, the stupid "TV MOGULS" banner
that kept popping up every five minutes (causing the picture to shrink by a
fourth), and Universal's tampering (adding the phrase "I'm a cop" and moving
the Mark VII Ltd trademark to *after* the closing credits), I might have
really enjoyed it. Still, if it leads a few viewers to seek out the radio
programs and available b&w episodes, it will have been worth it.
Michael
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:09:04 -0400
From: "Shawn A. Wells" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Pieces Parts
Greetings!
Sometime back Ed Carr mentioned that he has a number of programs on
transcriptions that is missing either Part One or Part Two of. Knowing that
there are a large number of private collectors that belong to this list, I
was hoping to list out a couple that I have in the hopes that perhaps
someone out there may have the other part. The list below contains what I'm
looking for :
"The Eddie Bracken Show"
exact date not yet known - 1945 'Paying The Water Bill' - NBC - Part One
exact date not yet known - March 1945 'The Ball' - NBC - Part Two
2/04/45 # 2 'Eddie Is Given A Baby' - NBC - Part Two
2/23/45 # 5 Rehearsal - NBC - Part Two
3/04/45 # 6 'Connie's Christmas Present' - NBC - Part One
3/25/45 # 9 'Eddie Goes To Observation Hill' -NBC - Part One
4/08/45 # 11 'Louis Pretends To Be Eddie' -NBC - Part One
5/25/45 # 18 'Eddie Learns A Song For Mr. Monohan' - Rehearsal - NBC -Part
Two
10/06/46 # 2 'Eddie Carries Firewood On The Bus' - CBS- Part Two
10/27/46 # 5 'Eddie Meets Tea Time Amy' -CBS - Part One
11/1046 # 7 'Mistaken Engagement' CBS - Part Two
12/01/46 # 10 'Eddie's Dream' CBS - Part One
2/25/47 # 23 'Eddie Causes Fire - Rehearsal - CBS- Part Two
"Let's Talk Hollywood"
8/22/48 # 8 -NBC - Part Two
8/29/48 # 9 -NBC - Part One
"The Chase and Sanborn Hour"
10/06/40 # 2 - NBC - Part Two
10/13/40 # 3 - NBC - Part Two
11/03/40 # 6 - NBC - Part Two
If by chance anyone has any of the above missing 'pieces parts,' just drop
me an e-mail off list. I am more than willing to either buy the ET or trade
like material for it.
Thank You,
Shawn Wells
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:25:56 -0400
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: My final answer
Hal,
Enjoyed your write-up of Shelley Winters, even though it clearly brought back
some horrible memories, and possibly stomach upset as well. And for the
benefit of everyone else, we can (just barely) tie your experience to OTR.
Anyone wishing corroboration of Ms. Winters' inability to learn lines and
accept blame should seek out Arthur Marx's book "Son of Groucho," in which he
tells of his ill-fated Broadway musical, "Minnie's Boys." Ms. Winters played
mother Minnie Marx, apparently at Groucho's insistence (Arthur and his
collaborator wanted Totie Fields), and the experience was not unlike Hal's.
I think Marx even blames the miscasting for the show's failure - although
that might be carrying it too far.
Michael
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:26:55 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Hollywood and Vine
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In a message dated 5/12/04 9:23:20 AM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
The corner of Hollywood and Vine is pretty depressing. At least it was a
few years ago, when it was a thriving supermarket for every sort of illicit
drug.
When I visited in September 1999 it didn't look like a crack corner, just
another, touristy street corner. I took several walks through that
intersection
including one just after midnight one night. The rougher stuff appeared a few
blocks away.
The improvement association must be succeeding, as Hollywood Avenue looked
fairly nice in that part of town for the most part. By the time I got to
Popeye's Fried Chicken on Hollywood avenue, some gang-bangers were hanging out
across the street, on Bob Newhart's star he got for recording. But even they
left
me alone. I did not think of the Chinese Theatre as an oasis on a blighted
street, the street itself was well kept. But then again I was a tourist, not
someone who's there all the time, and I admit this was five years ago, so that
would be a quick nosedive.
Back on topic, my memories of my trip remind me of another question: the Earl
Carroll Vanities theatre apparently housed radio programming at one point,
even "Amos 'n' Andy." Gosden and Correll are still pictured inside, in
makeup.
The theatre is now used by the Nick Studios of Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite fame.
Anyone know anything more about this? Also, didn't Bob Hope occasionally do
radio shows from the El Capitan Theatre? That is the first thing that came
to mind when I actually saw that beautiful palace.
Dixon
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:20:58 -0400
From: Kathleen Newman <kn4@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Frank Edwards
Does anyone have any surviving tapes of the news broadcaster Frank
Edwards, who was on the air from the 1940s to the 1960s, and was sponsored
by the AFL-CIO from 1951-1954? I am including a chapter on Edwards in my
next book on post-war culture. Thanks!
Thanks, Kathy Newman
kn4@[removed]
--
Professor Kathy M. Newman
My first book, Radio Active, is now available from UC Press:
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:03:24 -0400
From: kclarke5@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mae West Scandal
I believe the infamous Mae West Scandal stemmed
from an appearance she had on the "Edgar Bergen and
Charlie McCarthy Show" sponsored by Chase and Sanborn
Coffee. She did a skit with Don Ameche known as the
"Adam and Eve" skit. Due to the suggestive way she
presented her part of it, the powers that be ruled that
she be banned from appearing on radio and that her name
never be mentioned on any radio show by any other performer.
Anyone who refused to follow these rulings, would have
faced severe repercussions. Exactly how long was she
banned from radio? Stories vary. I've heard everything
from 'forever', 'for life', '16 years', and '26 years'
on up.
Several people have asked questions about this
"Adam and Eve" skit and the scandal which followed. Some
of these questions are: Why didn't Don Ameche face similar
consequences? After all, he was part of the skit as much
as she was. Weren't the sponsors aware of Mae West's
reputation BEFORE she was signed to do the skit? If so,
they should've expected what eventually happened. Her
reputation as "Diamond Lil" in the movies and other saucy,
movie roles such as "She Done Him Wrong" was already well known
to the public. The fact that she chose to project her
successful movie persona into the role she had in the radio
skit should've been nothing unusual.
I'm not defending her choice to perform the role
by any means, nor am I defending what the sponsors chose
to do as a result. This is all of the facts I have on the
matter. As far as I know, however, she never appeared on
any radio program after the ruling was made.
Another OTR fan,
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:03:57 -0400
From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re: Piggy Banks
Wow! I can't believe it! Have I actually stumped the
pooled knowledge and wisdom of the OTR Digest???
Either that, or it got lost in the shuffle. LOL
Anyway, I'll repost my question:
Who played the character of Piggy Banks, childhood
friend of Leroy, and brother of Penny Banks, on the
Great Gildersleeve? (I'm still only in the first 3
months of the show which began in 1941.) His voice
has a familiar ring to it, but I don't have access to
show logs or cast information, and evidently the cast
was not completely listed on the shows themselves
(unless I've missed it completely LOL)
Thanks all. (no offense intended by my chiding, btw)
Dave Phaneuf
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:04:06 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-13 births/deaths
May 13th births
05-13-1902 - David Broekman - Leiden, The Netherlands- d. 4-1-1958
conductor: "Mobil Magazine"; "Texaco Star Theatre"
05-13-1909 - Ken Darby - Hebron, NE - d. 1-24-1992
singer, choral conductor: (The King's Men) "Fibber McGee and Molly"
05-13-1912 - Helen Craig - San Antonio, TX - d. 7-20-1986
actress: "Crime Does Not Pay"
May 13th deaths
05-07-1901 - Gary Cooper - Helena, MT - d. 5-13-1961
actor: "Family Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; 'Lux Radio Theatre"
05-30-1896 - Whispering Jack Smith - The Bronx, NY - d. 5-13-1950
singer: "Whispering Jack Smith"
--
Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:04:24 -0400
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: This weekend with Walden Hughes
Hear Walden this weekend on yesterdayusa. You can always hear the station
live on the internet at [removed]
Walden is heard Friday, Saturday and Sunday at 10:30 pm Eastern / 7:30 pm
Pacific.
This weekend is a mix of OTR and interviews.
Friday 5-14-04
Frank and Walden interview Milton DeLugg. Milton is a big band leader and
song writer from the golden days of radio. Abbott and Costello show and the
Al Jolson Kraft Music Hall will be interspersed throughout the interview.
B. Other OTR shows to be heard later in the evening are I Love Adventure,
Family Theater and others.
Saturday 5-15-04
A. Walden interviews Frankie Thomas who was the star of Tom Corbit
B. George Burns' memories about Grace and radio.
C. OTR includes The Couple next Door, and others
Sunday 5-16-04
A. Dr. Mike Biels talk
B. Laura Leff thoughts about the Jack Benny show of 5-9-37
with that particular show aired following Laura's intro .
C. Interview with Peter Ford the son of Glenn Ford
D. OTR will included
One Man Family
Fred Allen
Lux Radio Theater
The call in number to speak to Walden off air is
714-545-2071 .
Join us for the fun !!!!
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:04:45 -0400
From: zbob@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "Sounds Vintage" magazine
Back to 1979, and a British publication was presented to the radio /
phonograph community. Called Sounds Vintage, it covered the field of audio
from the British viewpoint, including history and restoration of equipment.
I have the first six issues, available at $[removed] TIA
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Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 00:55:25 -0400
From: "steven kostelecky" <skostelecky@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Magnificent Bear
I have to say I am very much impressed by Mr. Mayer's artwork on the
Cinnamon Bear and also Ms. Webster's quilting. It is nearly always
impossible to imagine in any visual form an aural image, but I find the
artwork charming. Our family found a children's book of CB that came out in
the 70s, I believe, that is really horrible in my opinion. There has to be a
feeling of period for the visualization to work, for one, and Mr. Mayer and
Ms. Webster's vision captures the feeling of a period children's book
admirably.
Good work, you two!
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Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:53:43 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cinevent Convention
For anyone who longs for the by-gone days of OTR and movies, the Cinevent 36
is being held in Columbus on the last weekend of May. ([removed] for
details). There will be dealers selling old-time radio shows (Satellite
Media, Finders Keepers, etc.) and even frequent posters like Fred Berney and
Rodney Bowcock will be there.
If anyone is planning on attending the convention and is looking for someone
to split the costs of a hotel room in half, please e-mail me off the Digest.
I'm trying to cut my expenses down, and I'm sure someone on the Digest
planning to attend would love to do the same.
Martin Grams, Jr.
mmargrajr@[removed]
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