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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 01 : Issue 224
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
The Swift's Sing-Along [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
Old friend Jack Mann [Thomasmartin245@[removed] ]
Funny folks [Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu]
6-6-44 Bob Hope and/or Red Skelton [Bobbie <bobbiev@[removed]; ]
"Jughead" ["Stanley Probstein" <cwarner3@tampa]
Gildersleeve / Fields recap ["Robert Fabris" <PORTHOLE@worldnet.]
Re: HOPALONG CASSIDY and Wally Ballo [SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [lois@[removed] ]
Hopalong Cassidy Trademark ["A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro]
Funniest OTR Episodes [GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@]
Norman Corwin [Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed]]
Removed from the web [Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed]]
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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:18:48 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Swift's Sing-Along
"greg przywara" asked "Jughead"
Would like to know if he and the rest of the cast
had to sing along to the Swift's Premium's Franks Jingle ("Tender beef,
juicy pork, known from the west coast to New [removed]) or if this was the job
of the tykes in the peanut gallery.
Actually Greg, we all sang along, but not directly "on" mike so as not to
overpower the kids voices in the studio audience. As a matter of fact, Bob
Hastings and I usually went down close to the stage apron (One on either
side of the stage) and clowned around as "conducters" leading the kids in
the rhythm of the jingle.
And as long as we are on the subject of
music, I am dying to know who was the organist on the program. Was it the
same individual who did the fantastic keyboard work for "Boston Blackie" or
Rosa Rio who played for "Guiding Light"?
I'm not sure who the organist was for "Boston Blackie", but we had the great
pleasure to have George Wright doing his musical thing for most of the
programs life. George Wright was also a sort of celebrity in his own
right.(No pun).
For years, he played the huge Pipe Organ between shows at the Paramount
theater on Broadway.
Rosa Rio did the show a few times, but I expect it was only if George was
sick or something!
Regards,
Hal(Harlan)Stone
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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:59:23 -0400
From: Thomasmartin245@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Old friend Jack Mann
Could anyone give me Jack Manns email address. I have used the one on his
list and it bounces back to me. Thanks.
Tom
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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:00:23 -0400
From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Funny folks
As a spinoff to the "funniest episode" discussion, does anyone have a
funniest secondary character? I vote for Shorty the Barber on "Amos 'n'
Andy," followed closely by Mr. Peavey on "The Great Gildersleeve." The mere
appearance of these characters would get the audience laughing before they
even said anything funny. I think it was the anticipation, knowing they were
going to hear Shorty sputter or Mr. Peavey utter, "Well now, I wouldn't say
that."
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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:40:10 -0400
From: Bobbie <bobbiev@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 6-6-44 Bob Hope and/or Red Skelton
Does anyone know if the above referenced shows are available for
purchase anywhere?
My mother remembers listening to both shows on D-Day and would
like to have copies of the audio if they are available.
Thanks for any help you might be able to give me.
Bobbie (bobbiev@[removed])
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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:59:58 -0400
From: "Stanley Probstein" <cwarner3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: "Jughead"
Met you one evening at the oldradio chat channel, just wanted to let you
know I was one of those Archie Andrews radio fans, tuning in every Saturday
morning. I remember Jughead had an opening reply from Archie "Relax Archie,
relax" and the studio audience went out of their minds. Thanks for
listening. Stan.
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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:46:54 -0400
From: "Robert Fabris" <PORTHOLE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Gildersleeve / Fields recap
I posed the question about the meaning of "gildersleeve" in the context of
[removed]' usage a few days ago - WC had used the term in a couple of
films. A number of responses have been published which have given me an
insight into this. I offer - many officers wear a uniform. These uniforms
frequently have gold insignia on their sleeve. Segue into a "gold sleeve" -
"guilder sleeve" - and finally "gildersleeve", as denoting a person of
authority. Someone [removed] would usually try to avoid. Many thanks to the
various contributors that have led me down this path.
The specific references I am aware of are in The Old Fashioned Way (where I
mis-heard the phrase), and You Can't Cheat an Honest Man. Thanks Again!!
Bob Fabris
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 00:36:31 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: HOPALONG CASSIDY and Wally Ballou
In a message dated 7/10/01 7:38:36 PM, Jim Widner writes:
Not really, if you do a trademark search for Hopalong Cassidy, you'll see
that US Television Office Inc. has it all covered:
Trademark #2056008 - G & S: posters, books concerning Westerns [, and movie
theater lobby cards, inserts and half sheets ]. G & S: T-shirts, sweaters,
headwear, neckwear, vests, and cowboy outfits, primarily, caps, chaps,
shirts.
Trademark #1985293 - G & S: firearms.
Trademark #1991689 - G & S: prerecorded video tapes of Westerns and related
products, namely recordings of Western radio shows.
All are live trademarks.
***Actually, Hopalong Cassidy is a fascinating case study in copyrights and
trademarks. There are really two different Western characters that share the
same name. Hopalong Cassidy was first introduced in Clarence E. Mulford's
Bar 20 stories which began appearing in OUTING MAGAZINE in 1906. OUTING was
an Albany-based magazine that promoted the joys of bicycling. Along with
Mulford's Bar-20 stories, the magazine also published Frederic Remington's
first Western illustrations. The Bar 20/Hopalong cassidy hardcover novels
began appearing around 1910 . . . which means a large number of them are
public domain in terms of copyright.
Now bear in mind that I am not an attorney, but I'm pretty sure it's legal to
reprint those early stories and novels as long as they remain in their
original form. (I believe they were later rewritten to conform with the
movie version and were re-copyrighted in that form.) But few people would be
all that interested in reading those particular Hoppy stories. In the
original stories, William Cassidy is a hard-drinking, cussing, hot-tempered
red-headed teenager. He acquires the Hopalong nickname in the sixth story
after a slug shatters his thigh bone. "Th' bone is plumb smashed," Cassidy
laments. "I reckon I'll hop along through life. It'll be hop along, for me,
Hopalong Cassidy."
Little of Mulford's original character made it to the screen . . . except for
the name. The author detested the movie version of his character which he
denounced as "an absolutely ludicrous character." Mulford identified as a
pagan and considered his creation to likewise be pagan, and strongly resented
the stalwart Christian values of Boyd's movie character.
The Hoppy we know and love was introduced in the first movie in 1935, and
that character is still protected by copyright and trademarks. Will Hutchins
once mentioned to me that the theatrical release of the BALLAD OF THE
GUNFIGHTER movie was originally delayed by a lawsuit from the Hoppy trademark
owners. I suspect the movie was based on the earlier character and that the
producers avoided mentioning Hopalong Cassidy in the film's title in the
hopes of avoiding copyright trouble. Similarly, DC now owns the Captain
Marvel character which must be published unter the SHAZAM title (though
Captain Marvel can still be featured under his original name within the
stories themselves).
I suspect that one of the reasons for the introduction of a successor to Don
Diego de la Vega in THE MASK OF ZORRO movie was to create a new character
that could be protected by a new copyright (along with the existing
trademark), since Zorro first appeared in ALL-STORY MAGAZINE in 1919, more
than eighty years ago.***
And Stephen Jansen writes:
and, of [removed] Ballou
Reporting. That's Wally Ballou, of course. For some reason he never can
get his first name on the air, even though he is the winner of "several
diction awards".
***Bob and Ray explained the reason for --lly Ballou years ago on THE TONIGHT
SHOW. It's an inside joke referring to how often sound engineers lagged
slightly behind in opening the circuit for a microphone. Wally is supposed
to be introducing himself as "Wally Ballou reporting" but the first syllable
is always cut off by a sound engineer who is too slow in throwing the switch
to turn on the mike. It was one of those inside jokes aimed at their
co-workers that went over the heads of many listeners. --ANTHONY TOLLIN***
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 04:52:00 -0400
From: lois@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:01:19 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hopalong Cassidy Trademark
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:56:25 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
All are live trademarks.
All are certainly =registered= trademarks. But a trademark is lost if it
isn't used, and the registry might not have that information. Anyone know
whether these trademarks have been used lately?
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:01:17 -0400
From: GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Funniest OTR Episodes
What's made me laugh the loudest and longest,
until I drooled like a lunatic [so what's new?] are
two back-to-back Jack Benny episodes from 1949.
Jack's been hit over the head, with the result
that he becomes extremely generous, giving money away
like penny candy.
He's back to normal the following Sunday, but is
curious as to the things he might have done while in
his daze.
"For one thing," he's informed, "you gave 50
cents to a bum."
Benny's response: Long [removed] [removed]
long pause - "NO!!"
That fabled Benny sense of atomic clock comedy
timing (only Bud Abbott possessed anything close) made
this one word absolutely hilarious.
George Wagner
GWAGNEROLDTIMERADIO@[removed]
poetdreamerscholar@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:25:28 -0400
From: Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Norman Corwin
Hi,
Don't forget about the Bill Bragg Live Shows done this week from Hollywood
and Frank Bresee's house.
We start at 10:30 Eastern, and 7:30 Pacific.
I called Norman Corwin a week or so ago, and he has agreed to chat via
phone this evening.
Listen in and call with questions.
323-933-6666.
There will be several other notable personalaties in the room as well.
Larry Gassman
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:48:41 -0400
From: Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Removed from the web
Hi,
I've had some calls concerning KCSN and their web site.
Our show Same Time Same Station is still heard locally at: [removed] FM on
Sunday's between noon and 2, but not on the internet.
I don't have the full story, but KCSN management is now working with a new
ISP and hopes to be back on the internet soon.
The former site is now gone for good.
More later when I know more.
Larry Gassman
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