Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #124
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 4/6/2004 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 124
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Richard Crenna's "Slattery's People"  [ Peter Kinder <pdkinder@[removed]; ]
      Frank Schuster                        [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Elizabeth's April Fools Joke          [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
      Wild Bill Hickok                      [ "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@hotmai ]
      Re: Elevator Operators                [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Uniform                               [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Private Eyelashes                     [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
      Edward R. Murrow                      [ Dick Backus <backus2@[removed]; ]
      Marshall Dodge:                       [ "Bob and Carol Taylor" <shadowcole@ ]
      Frank Sinatra Radio Reissues          [ seandd@[removed] ]
      elevator muzak                        [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      Mister Ed                             [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      4-7 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:49:41 -0400
    From: Peter Kinder <pdkinder@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Richard Crenna's "Slattery's People"

    	The only connection this question has with OTR is the beloved
    Richard Crenna.  He made an unjustly short-lived TV series in the mid 60s
    called "Slattery's People" in which he played a California state senator.
    Does anyone know if the series is available on tape or DVD?  Off-list
    responses would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Peter Kinder

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    Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:50:34 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Frank Schuster
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    Hi gang!

    Jim Widner  jwidner@[removed] wrote:

>     Not sure if it was from television or radio (TV, I suspect), but I recall a
>     very funny skit that W&S did wherein a guy became addicted to television as
>     one becomes addicted to drugs - he just needed to watch, any show, it
>     didn't matter. As an antidote trying to cure him, he was forced to listen
>     to radio.

    Would somebody please clarify or corroborate the following queries? Was Frank
    Schuster of the Canadian comedy team of  "(Johnny) Wayne and (Frank) Schuster"
    related somehow to Superman co-creator Joe Schuster [as in "Jerry Siegel & Joe
    Schuster"]? Also, wasn't Frank Schuster  the father of  one-time "Saturday
    Night Live" writer Rosie Schuster, and hence, one-time father-in-law of SNL
    creator Lorne Michaels?

    I believe I read about all these Schusters being related in a book  from the
    mid-1980s detailing the history of the SNL [removed] I'm not 100% sure.

    Happy Ether!

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:09:14 -0400
    From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Elizabeth's April Fools Joke

    I totally bought Elizabeth's story about "the find" last year.  As everything
    else that she writes, it was so obviously researched and full of interesting
    facts that as I read the item I became more and more enthused, wondering
    just how long it would be until I had copies of these gems in my collection.

    When the bomb dropped, I was, of course, disappointed; not so much
    for finding out that I would not be hearing the shows that had been discovered,
    but more because I had been hoodwinked.

    The more I thought about it, and the more I read messages, both pro and con,
    the more I admired Elizabeth for her brilliant creation.  I'm glad that there
    are no more April Fools jokes in this group, because I seriously doubt if anyone
    can possibly top Elizabeth's joke.  I'm sure that each year as April draws near,
    there will be many amongst us who will simply smile, shake our heads at
    what we almost had, and drink a toast to Elizabeth for writing a classic.

    Al Girard

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    Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:08:35 -0400
    From: "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Wild Bill Hickok

    Hi,  Perhaps someone could answer a question I have concerning the series
    WILD BILL HICKOK. I know the series ran on radio 1951 - 1956 with many of
    these shows being in circulation, but when did it run on TV?  I recall
    watching it & would guess it may have been the mid 50's.  Did the show run
    on TV at the same time as the radio series or did the TV series run after
    the radio show ended? John

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 02:22:12 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Elevator Operators

    On 4/4/04 12:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     When is the last time you spoke to an eleverator operator? "third
>     [removed] wearing [removed] [removed] down, step to
>     the rear of the car please."

    I was surprised to find an elevator operator in all his glory when I
    attended a media cocktail party at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York
    in 1997. The elevators were then, and probably still are, the old-school
    hand-operated kind, complete with a uniformed lackey in charge of keeping
    the car moving.

    When I encountered this operator, he was swearing profusely in Spanish at
    the door of his car, which had jammed in a half-open half-closed
    position, stranding several angry passengers inside and causing a huge
    backlog of people to accumulate in the corridor waiting for a ride down
    to the street. Most of us ended up taking the stairs -- where I ended up
    slipping in my ridiculously uncomfortable shoes and broke a toe. So my
    memories of elevator operators are far from nostalgic, I [removed]

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 02:22:42 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Uniform

    I wrote:

>     This is totally off-topic, but that you've mentioned it, I did that once

    sans

>     the uniform and with a regular chair.

    And before anyone else jumps in on this joke, I'd better say it myself.  YES,
    I WAS WEARING REGULAR CLOTHING INSTEAD OF THE UNIFORM, NOT RUNNING THE
    ELEVATOR IN THE BUFF.

    --LL

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 02:23:09 -0400
    From: ilamfan@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
    Subject:  Private Eyelashes

         Just a note about my latest book purchase that I am enjoying immensely -
    Jack French's "Private Eyelashes - Radio's Lady Detectives".  Just released
    last week, $[removed] from BearManor Media [removed] .
         This is a superb book covering the oft-neglected topic of radio's female
    crimefighters.  I'm only about halfway through it right now, it is a very
    informative and FUN read!
         Mr French has authored several articles about these "Private Eyelashes":
    here is a link to one that's online, which might be considered a primer for
    the book:

    [removed]

         He covers all of the well-known female detectives, and a slew of
    unknowns.  How many of these radio sleuthettes (not bad, eh?) names do you
    recognize?  Irene Delroy, Marie Revell, Phyl Coe, Carolyn Day, Kitty Keene,
    Diane LaVolta, Marty Ellis Bryant, Mary Vance, Debby Spencer, Kitty Piper,
    Anne [removed] a few are familiar to you, probably not all of them.
    And these are just a few of the radio characters described in the book.
         Chapters are split up into groups of single heroines, husband/wife
    teams, newsgirls, secretaries, comedy spins, and so on.  Well thought out,
    and intelligently arranged.
         Also, dozens of black and white photographs of the actresses - thanks
    for the glamorous photos of Alice Reinheart, Adele Jergens, and Agnes
    Moorehead (surely I'm not the only fella who thinks she was a babe?!?) -
    Hubba Hubba!  [removed] mean, it's a treat to see the stars when we only know
    them from their voices.
         And, of course, in her own chapter, is the great Candy Matson.  Not only
    the best female detective show, but one of the best OTR shows of all time.
    Great scripts and acting, strong characters, excitement, humor, what's not to
    like?
         Same as this book - what's not to like?  Nothing.  A very informative,
    well-researched work that belongs on the OTR bookshelf along with Dunning,
    Grams, Cox, Hickerson, Harmon, and Stone.
         Thanks, Mr French ([removed] I still think that the "Nemesis, Incorporated"
    show was really exciting, and even though a tad corny, would love to hear
    more episodes of the series)!

    Stephen Jansen

    --
    Old Time Radio never dies - it
    just changes formats!

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 03:26:30 -0400
    From: Dick Backus <backus2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Edward R. Murrow

    I remember hearing one of Murrow's "Reports from London" in which he expounds
    on the value of the cigarette as a calming influence during the blitz.
    Can anyone help me find where I can download or purchase that segment?
    Thanks,
                                                                         Dick
    Backus

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:58:11 -0400
    From: "Bob and Carol Taylor" <shadowcole@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Marshall Dodge:

    I wonder if anybody has any old either radio or   performances of Marshall
    Dodge who was one half in the team of Bert & I.  The other person in the
    team was Robert Bryan.  I got to see Marshall in the late 70's in Hartford
    CT. at a church that was giving space to a company called The Sounding
    Board.  He was great and with the absence of sight I missed some of his
    antics on stage.

    That kind of performing is a dying breed.

    Marshall had a show on Maine Public tv called, So You Think You Know Maine.
    The humor was wonderful.

    If any one has any stories or know where I can get any of his stuff, I would
    prefer CD would the please let me know.

    Thanks,  Isn't this list great.  Thanks to all who share so much so we all
    can learn.

    Bob Taylor

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:58:23 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Frank Sinatra Radio Reissues

    The New York Post today reviews a CD of Frank Sinatra musical recordings from
    1940-1942 for NBC Network.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:10:48 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  elevator muzak

>     Tieing this post into a radio subject:  there was always soothing, elevator
>     music to hum along from a broadcaster's music service, (...remember Musak?
>     Well, they are still around [removed] )

    Oh, boy, are they still around.  With a vengance.  For the last few years,
    they've been selling their services through, well, forceful marketing
    techniques.

    Their agents wander into, say, a Chinese restaurant or a supermarket and
    listen to the music therein.  If it doesn't have the watermark of Muzak
    (Muzak's is a pause in the music at some precise time, like five minutes
    past the hour or some such) they know that it's either from a CD or the
    radio.

    Because of the ASCAP or BMI licenses, neither of these media can be used for
    commercial purposes, which is what store music is.  The store owner is
    informed of this fact and in the ensuing discussion is invited to sign up
    with Muzak or be turned in to ASCAP or BMI and suffer the fines thereof.

    I may have gotten some of this wrong.  My source is a fairly long article in
    the Wall Street Journal a couple of years back; things may have changed in
    the meantime.  Corrections are invited.

    M Kinsler

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 13:47:22 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mister Ed

    Paul Urbahns wrote:

>     What I think they may be is two sides of a Mr Ed album issued during the run
>     of the show.

    Thanks Paul.  I kinda figured it was some form of audio track from the TV
    series and not a radio series.
    Martin

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    Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 15:14:28 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-7 births/deaths

    April 7th births

    04-07-1895 - Bert Wheeler - Paterson, NJ - d. 1-18-1968
    comedian: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "New Old Gold Show"
    04-07-1897 - Walter Winchell - NYC - d. 2-20-1972
    news-gossip caster: "Lucky Strike Dance Hour"; "Jergens Journal"
    04-07-1901 - Gavin Gordon - Chicora, MS - d. 4-7-1983
    actor: Doctor Norfolk "Brenthouse"
    04-07-1908 - Percy Faith - Toronto, Canada - d. 2-9-1976
    conductor: "Carnation Contented Hour"; "Pause That Refreshes on the Air"
    04-07-1915 - Billie Holliday - d. 7-17-1959
    singer: "Artie Shaw Band"
    04-07-1915 - Stanley Adams - NYC - d. 4-27-1977
    writer: "My Friend Irma"

    April 7th deaths

    01-31-1921 - John Agar - Chicago, IL - d. 4-7-2002
    actor: "Big Show"
    04-01-1912 - Lou Merrill - Canada - d. 4-7-1963
    actor: Thomas Hyland "Crime Classics"; Aaron Saul "Point Sublime"
    04-06-1884 - Walter Huston - Toronto, Canada - d. 4-7-1950
    actor: "Theatre Guild on the Air"; "Cavalcade of America"
    04-07-1901 - Gavin Gordon - Chicora, MS - d. 4-7-1983
    actor: Doctor Norfolk "Brenthouse"
    04-16-1898 - Marian Jordan - Peoria, IL - d. 4-7-1961
    commedienne: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Kaltenmeyer's Kindergarten"
    06-22-1902 - Phil Duey - Macy, IN - d. 4-7-1982
    singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Leo Reisman Orchestra"; "Happy Bakers"
    11-14-1914 - Ken Carson - Colgate, OK - d. 4-7-1994
    singer: (Lustre Cream Shampoo commercial) "Day in the Life of Dennis Day"
    11-16-1899 - Mary Margaret McBride - Paris, MO - d. 4-7-1976
    commentator: "Mary Margaret McBride"
    11-30-1873 - Frederic William Wile - La Porte, IN - d. 4-7-1941
    commentator: "Political Situation in Washington"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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