Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #12
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 1/13/2006 4:19 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 12
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Will Rogers for President             [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
      Sept. 30, 1962                        [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
      Paul Rhymer photo needed              [ benohmart@[removed] ]
      Life With Luigi Project Begins        [ <cooldown3@[removed]; ]
      Meeting Mr. Lincoln                   [ "JAMES NIXON" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
      Memorable program openings            [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
      Howdy Doody for President             [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      1-13 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      John Wesley Hardin                    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Studio Recordings "Record"            [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
      Howdy Doody's Presidential Campaign   [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Circus show?                          [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:23:52 -0500
    From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Will Rogers for President

    Anthony Tollin wrote:

>     Yes, Will Rogers around a decade earlier.  If I recall correctly, he carried
>     the District of Columbia (or at least that is claimed in THE WILL ROGERS
>     FOLLIES).

    This is a joke that needs to be explained.  In Will Rogers' time the
    District of Columbia did not get to vote for Presdient, it had no votes in
    the Electoral College.  This changed in the 1960s, so now someone actually
    does carry [removed] in every Presidential election.

    I suppose an equivelent joke today would be saying someone carried Puerto
    Rico, American Samoa or Guam in the 2004 election.

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:00:20 -0500
    From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sept. 30, 1962

      Would like to know what readers of the digest did after the last OTR show
    had been broadcast. Would be interesting to know if any went to radio
    stations to get the transcriptions before they were stored or thrown away.
    Were there already a lot of shows on cassette tapes after the last shows on
    September 30, 1962? What became of the sound effects men at the end of OTR?
    Know TV was main reason for demise of OTR but what other developments may
    have had a part.
      Andrew Godfrey

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:01:01 -0500
    From: benohmart@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Paul Rhymer photo needed

    Hi. Some of you may know of the upcoming book on Vic and Sade coming later this
    year from cast member Bill Idelson (as well as his autobiography called Gibby). I'm
    VERY excited about this book - which has been needed for a Long time - as it's a first
    person account, with Lots of great script excerpts and behind the scenes stuff. I expect
    to put up ordering info and the V&S cover on the website below next week.

    Meantime, Bill is seeking a photo of Paul Rhymer to use in the book. He has several of
    Paul with celebrities, but was seeking a solo shot. If someone has one we could use,
    please let me know by email. 8x10 prefered, not a clipping from a magazine or
    newspaper. I'll tell you in an email where to send or how to scan it. Thanks much!

    Ben Ohmart

    Old radio. Old movies. New books.
    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:59:41 -0500
    From: <cooldown3@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Life With Luigi Project Begins

    Hi All,

    I think I have now sent put the Our Miss Brooks Project copies to everyone
    who contributed to it. Thank you for your valuable help.

    I am beginning the Life With Luigi Project now and estimate based on the
    brooks set that it will take about 6 months.

    If anyone would like to participate by sending in a copy of all of the Life
    With Luigi in their collection I will return a set of the completed project
    as soon as it is possible.

    Thank you to all listers who participated in the brooks project. We managed
    to collect and identify 193 different shows and also complete and send out
    an episodic log with accurate dates for all circulating shows along with the
    disc.
    Cheers,
    Patrick

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:22:53 -0500
    From: "JAMES NIXON" <ranger6000@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Meeting Mr. Lincoln

    Buck Saunders (with a name like that, he ought to have been a western movie
    hero) suggests that The Lone Ranger met either Abe Lincoln or President
    Grant during his fictional radio career.  He never actually meets Grant by
    name in the Black Arrow series.  The president is only referred to by his
    title, but the year is known and it can only be Grant.  Later, Grant asks
    his help in the Iron Spur series as well.
    But I don't remember from any of the transcriptions I have or the programs I
    remember growing up if he ever supposedly encountered Abe Lincoln.  Lincoln
    didn't travel west after the Civil War began, so it would have had to be
    during his "rail-splitting" days.  The Ranger does save President Hayes'
    life during a presidential trip to Kansas in the late 1870's.  Does anyone
    recall any Lone Ranger stories involving meeting Abe Lincoln?

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:55:14 -0500
    From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
    To: Old Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Memorable program openings

    A former Boston newspaperman would sometimes begin his column with "I was
    just thinking." Well, I was just thinking about memorable radio program
    openings, and came up with these three. I'm sure there are more.

    - -------------------------------------------------

    "As a bullet seeks its target, shining rails in every part of our great
    country are aimed at Grand Central Station, heart of the nation's greatest
    city. Drawn by the magnetic force of the fantastic metropolis, day and night
    great trains rush toward the Hudson River, sweep down its eastern bank for
    140 miles, flash briefly by the long red row of tenement houses south of
    125th Street, dive with a roar into the two-and-one-half-mile tunnel which
    burrows beneath the glitter and swank of Park Avenue, and then ... (sound
    effect of a train pulling into the station) ... GRAND CENTRAL STATION!
    Crossroads of a million private lives! Gigantic stage on which are played a
    thousand dramas daily!"

    - ----------------------------------------------------

    "There he goes across the street into the drugstore, steps on the scale,
    height: 6 feet, weight: 290 pounds, fortune: Danger.  Who is
    it?  THE FAT MAN."

    - ----------------------------------------------------

    "The Shadow, who aids the forces of law and order, is in reality Lamont
    Cranston wealthy young man-about-town. Years ago in the Orient, Cranston
    learned a strange and mysterious secret, the hypnotic power to cloud men's
    minds so they cannot see him. Cranston's friend and companion, the lovely
    Margo Lane, is the only person that knows to whom the voice of the invisible
    Shadow belongs."

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    Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:43:32 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Howdy Doody for President

>     Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:36:40 -0500
>     From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];

>     Howdy Doody's bid to be elected "president of all the boys and
>     girls of America" was  probably largely a TV affair. I never heard
>     any episodes of the contemporaneous  "Howdy Doody" radio show to
>     know if this campaign spilled over from TV and onto the radio.

    I don't believe it did.  Howdy Doody ran for President of the Kids
    twice, once in 1948 and once in 1952.  There was no Howdy Doody radio
    show in 1948.  I'm not sure when it started, but I believe it started
    after the 1952 election.  It lasted until Buffalo Bob's heart attack
    in 1954.

    I've just sent a question to the head of the Doodyville Historical
    Society, Howdy's fan and collector's club.  I'll pass on any further
    information I get.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:31:46 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-13 births/deaths

    January 13th births

    01-13-1884 - Sophie Tucker - Russia - d. 2-9-1966
    singer: (The Last of the Red Hot Mammas) "Sophie Tucker and Her Show"
    01-13-1901 - A. B. Guthrie - Bedford, IN - d. 4-26-1991
    author, screenwriter: "NBC University Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-13-1903 - Charles Kullman - New Haven, CT - d. 2-8-1983
    singer: "The Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"
    01-13-1903 - Kay Francis - Oklahoma City,  Oklahoma Territory - d.
    8-26-1968
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-13-1909 - Danny Barker - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-13-1994
    jazz guitar: "This Is Jazz"
    01-13-1910 - Jack Mercer - d. 12-4-1984
    actor: Popeye "Popeye the Sailor"
    01-13-1913 - Jeff Morrow - New York, NY - d. 12-26-1993
    actor: "Electric Theatre"
    01-13-1913 - Lloyd Bridges - San Leandro, CA - d. 3-10-1998
    actor: "Suspense"; "Arch Oboler's Plays"
    01-13-1914 - Stanley Waxman - Ohio - d. 9-27-1998
    actor: "Escape"; "Man Called X"; "Tell It Again"; "Presenting Charles
    Boyer"
    01-13-1918 - Steve Dunne - Northampton, MA - d. 9-2-1977
    actor: Sam Spade "Advs. of Sam Spade"
    01-13-1919 - Robert Stack - Los Angeles, CA - d. 5-14-2003
    actor: "Family Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    01-13-1925 - Gwen Verdon - Culver City, Los Angeles, CA - d. 10-18-2000
    actress, singer, dancer: "Stagestruck"; "WOR Diamond Jubilee"
    01-13-1930 - Frances Sternhagen - Washington, [removed]
    actress: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    January 13th deaths

    02-02-1882 - James Joyce - Dublin, Ireland - d. 1-13-1941
    author: "NBC University Theatre"
    02-09-1915 - Charlotte Holland - d. 1-13-1997
    actress: Nita Bennett "Lone Journey"; Nora Drake "This is Nora Drake"
    02-26-1922 - Margaret Leighton - Barnt Green, England - d. 1-13-1976
    actress: "Variety Playhouse"; "Pocket Theatre"
    03-16-1859 - Alexander Popov - Turinsk Districk, Russia - d. 1-13-1906
    One of the claimants for inventor of radio (along with Marconi and de
    Forest)
    04-10-1897 - Eric Knight - Menston, England - d. 1-13-1943
    writer: "Everyman's Theatre"
    04-21-1914 - Norman Panama - Chicago, IL - d. 1-13-2003
    writer: "Pepsodent Show starring Bob Hope"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-11-1911 - Doodles Weaver - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-13-1983
    comedian: (Brother of Pat Weaver) Professor Feedlebaum "Spike Jones
    Show"
    07-09-1881 - Samuel "Roxy" Rothafel - Stillwater, MN - d. 1-13-1936
    emcee: "Roxy's Gang"; "Roxy Revue"
    07-13-1934 - Philip Crosby - California - d. 1-13-2004
    actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
    07-22-1908 - Shirley Howard - d. 1-13-1988
    singer: "Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou"
    09-13-1880 - Jesse L. Lasky - San Francisco, CA - d. 1-13-1958
    film producer, host: "Gateway to Hollywood"
    09-23-1889 - Don Bestor - Longford, SD - d. 1-13-1970
    bandleader: "Nestle Program"; "Jack Benny Program"
    11-04-1896 - Harry Woods - North Chelmsford, MA - d. 1-13-1970
    compser: "Great Moments to Music"
    12-22-1901 - Andre Kostelanetz - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 1-13-1980
    conductor: "Chesterfield Hour"; "Light Up Time"; "Pause That Refreshes"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:21:28 -0500
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  John Wesley Hardin
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    I'd like to thank Jim Nixon, Dave Parker, and Paul Urbahns for answering my
    question about the famous historical folks who crossed paths with the Lone
    Ranger. One of the personages on Paul's list was:

    06/12/44 #1778/ 998 John Wesley Hardin  (Biography Series).

    My only knowledge about John Wesley Hardin comes from a Bob Dylan song in
    which he refers to Mr. Hardin as "a friend of the poor," and a series of
    late-night TV ads for a Time-Life series of books about the American West from
    about twenty years ago in which the ad's voice-over intoned that "John Wesley
    Hardin was so ornery, he once shot a man for snoring too loud."

    Let's hope he didn't try that with the Lone Ranger.

    Hi-Ho, Ether!

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:15:19 -0500
    From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Studio Recordings "Record"

>     (Bing Crosby) made 1668 studio [removed] is more than anyone else in
>     history

    I don't think so. Pioneer recording artists Billy Murray and Henry Burr did
    more than 3,000 studio recordings; Vernon Dalhart probably the same.

    Any fellow 78 collectors out there with the correct statistics?

    BILL KNOWLTON

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    Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:41:25 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Howdy Doody's Presidential Campaign

    Reliable sources tell me that the Howdy Doody radio show started on
    15 December 1951.  It ended in 1954 when Buffalo Bob had a heart
    attack.  That means that Howdy's 1952 Presidential campaign most
    likely did spill into the radio show.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:40:45 -0500
    From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Circus show?

    On Thursday, January 12, 2006, at 06:18 PM, "Trav" wrote:

>     I'm tring to solve a mystery of a recording I have -
>     I'm not sure if it was a cut-down show, or was it some
>     kind of special.  The ABC discs were titled "Circus
>     Story" (8/31/49), and it runs about 15 minutes.

    Other than the ABC citation, this sounds a little like "Ted Drake,
    Guardian of the Big Top" which was sometimes called "Circus Detective."
    It aired from June to September 1949 from Mutual's affiliate in
    Nashville, as "Superman's" summer replacement.  It was a half hour
    show, transcribed on two 15 minute disks each.

    Bob Slate, a west coast OTR collector, has located some of these disks
    and distributed copies.  Jim Widner has one episode for downloading on
    his web site if you'd like to compare it with what you have on your
    disk.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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