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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2010 : Issue 73
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      4-20 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      OTR Injustice Corrected               [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Author Author                         [ Michael Berger <[removed]@yaho ]
      4-21 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:26:55 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-20 births/deaths

    April 20th births

    04-20-1889 - Adolf Hitler - Braunau, Austria - d. 4-30-1945
    dictator: Propaganda broadcasts
    04-20-1893 - Harold Lloyd - Burchard, NE - d. 3-8-1971
    comedian: "Comedy Theatre"
    04-20-1897 - Gregory Ratoff - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 12-14-1960
    panelist: "Information, Please"
    04-20-1898 - Sidney Lanfield - Chicago, IL - d. 6-20-1972
    film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    04-20-1900 - Reed Kennedy - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 8-12-1952
    vocalist: "Gulf Headliners"; "The Song Shop"
    04-20-1904 - Bruce Cabot - Carlsbad, NM - d. 5-3-1972
    actor: "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "Hollywood on the Air"
    04-20-1904 - John Sanford - Harlem, NY - 3-6-2003
    screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-20-1908 - Lionel Hampton - Louisville, KY - d. 8-31-2002
    vibraphone artist: "Jubilee"; "One Night Stand"; "Lionel Hampton and
    His Orchestra"
    04-20-1914 - Betty Lou Gerson - Chattanooga, TN - d. 1-12-1999
    actor: Mary Marlin "Story of Mary Marlin"; Charlotte Wilson "The
    Guiding Light"
    04-20-1915 - Evelyn Scott - Brockton, MA - d. 1-31-2002
    actor: "Arch Oboler's Plays"; "The Smiths of Hollywood"
    04-20-1923 - Tito Puente - NYC - d. 5-31-2000
    percussionist, bandleader: "Manhattan Melodies"
    04-20-1924 - Nina Foch - Leyden, The Netherlands - d. 12-5-2008
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"; "Cavalcade of America"
    04-20-1924 - Patricia Peardon - Allendale, NJ - d. 4-22-1993
    actor: Mary Aldrich "Aldrich Family"; Joan Worthington "Orphans of
    Divorce"
    04-20-1926 - Elena Verdugo - Hollywood, CA
    actor: Millie Bronson "Meet Millie"

    April 20th deaths

    01-21-1924 - Benny Hill - Southampton, England - d. 4-20-1992
    comedian: "Educating Archie"
    01-29-1923 - Martin Ragaway - d. 4-20-1989
    writer: "The Abbot and Costello Show"; "The Milton Berle Show"
    03-27-1916 - Howard Merrill - NYC - d. 4-20-2002
    writer: "Advs. of Leonidas Witherall"; "Leave It to Mike"; "Secret
    Missions"
    04-12-1919 - Cy Bahakel - Birmingham, AL - d. 4-20-2006
    newscaster: WJRD Tuscaloosa, AL
    05-07-1892 - Archibald MacLeish - Glencoe, IL - d. 4-20-1982
    writer: "Columbia Workshop"
    05-10-1922 - Ric Throssell - Greenmount, Western Australia - d.
    4-20-1999
    writer: "The Day Before Tomorrow"
    05-20-1921 - Joel Kane - Los Angeles County, CA - d. 4-20-1993
    writer: "Fibber McGee and Molly"
    06-19-1920 - Johnny Douglas - London, England - d. 4-20-2003
    host: "In the Still of the Night"
    06-25-1924 - Phil Nowlan - d. 4-20-2002
    writer: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century based on Nowlan"s comic strip
    06-28-1904 - Hector Chevigny - d. 4-20-1965
    writer: "Portia Faces Life"; "The Second Mrs. Burton"
    07-09-1925 - Alan Dale - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-20-2002
    singer, actor: "Sing It Again"
    08-08-1912 - Gail Henshaw - NYC - d. 4-20-1954
    actor: Kitty Keene "Kitty Keene"; Linda Munson "The Woman in White"
    08-22-1879 - Edward Johnson - Ontario, Canada - d. 4-20-1959
    operatic tenor: "Metropolitan Opera"
    09-19-1910 - Dresser Dahlstead - Springville, UT - d. 4-20-1998
    announcer: "I Deal in Crime"; "Death Valley Days"; "I Love a Mystery"
    10-20-1897 - William A. Bacher - d. 4-20-1965
    producer, director: "Al Jolson Show"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "Treasury
    Star Parade"
    10-26-1912 - Donald Siegel - Chicago, IL - d. 4-20-1991
    film director: "Bud's Bandwagon"
    11-08-1847 - Bram Stoker - Dublin, Ireland - d. 4-20-1912
    author: "Many of his works adapted for radio
    11-20-1890 - Robert Armstrong - Saginaw, MI - d. 4-20-1973
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-20-1889 - Ernest LaPrade - Memphis, TN - d. 4-20-1969
    conductor: "Collier's Hour"; "Orchestra of the Nation"

    Ron

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    Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:27:19 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR Injustice Corrected

    I want to bring to your attention a minor issue I consider an injustice
    towards researchers of old time radio. For the past few years, a number of
    web-sites have been posting radio logs (titles, broadcast dates, episode
    numbers, etc.) on their web-site and, sadly, have not been giving credit
    where credit is due. One such example is the following web-site:
    [removed] which features a broadcast log
    for MR. KEEN, TRACER OF LOST PERSONS. A number of years ago, Jim Cox, with
    the hearty assistance of Stewart Wright, compiled an episode guide and book
    about MR. KEEN for McFarland Publishing. Until that book was published, no
    one had a broadcast log or episode guide on the subject. The log that appears
    on that web-site clearly originates from Jim's book, with the same missing
    gaps and obvious tell-tale signs. And the injustice I refer to is the fact
    that Jim Cox receives absolutely no credit whatsoever. For the record, Jim
    flew all the way to Wyoming and spent a lot of money out of his own pocket
    copying the scripts (whole and in part) to compile that log. He's never
    received enough money in royalties to reimburse his hard work, and worse, his
    efforts is not being plagiarized, but they haven't had the decency to credit
    or acknowledge him on the log.

    This is just one of many examples that can be found on many web-sites. Many
    of those individuals are subscribers of this digest and those very same
    people defend their actions by claiming no one owns the copyrights to titles
    and broadcast dates for radio shows. While this may be true, it's a defense
    that steers away from the subject at hand. They defend their actions by
    claiming they themselves are not posting their name as the author in the
    byline, and therefore, claim they are not stealing credit. This is hogwash
    because if I cut and paste a log onto my web-site, from someone else's site,
    and then claim I'm not stealing credit because I didn't add "written by
    Martin Grams" to the log, people will still assume I did it because it's on
    my site. They defend themselves by claiming they are non-profit, but if it is
    not money, the only reason I can see them doing this is to gain name and
    recognition. Maybe that's an ego, I don't know. Whether they are profit or
    non-profit is an "excuse," not a "reason" for doing what they do. They defend
    themselves by claiming they tweak the logs with their own style or perhaps a
    correction or two and therefore, since it's not the exact same log (even
    though 95 plus percent is the same), they are not obligated to give credit to
    the person who did the majority of the work. They defend themselves by
    claiming they are providing a service for the public, but what service are
    they providing when they are not being truthful in revealing who truly did
    the research for what appears on their web-site?

    This is NOT an issue about copyrights. This is NOT an issue about trademarks.
    This is NOT an issue about book sales versus internet web-sites. This is a
    moral and ethical issue about "stealing" logs without giving due credit. If
    this isn't stealing or plagiarism, I'd like to know what they call it (with
    fancy legal terminology, no doubt). It is a known fact that very few people
    in this hobby are true researchers. That is, people who dig through the
    archives at University libraries, track down family relatives and pay them a
    visit to go through the family archives and collections, and visit the
    Library of Congress to go through dramatic works. Very few people really do
    this. Most people, sadly, simply refer to a bunch of previously published
    reference books and while there is nothing wrong with that, there is a major
    difference between consulting published books versus digging through the
    archives. I, personally, would never consider anyone a researcher if all they
    are doing is posting logs on their web-sites taken from books other people
    truly researched. They may not be asking for my respect, but they have not
    earned it.

    I might be the only person who is presently voicing their disappointment
    regarding this subject, because friends have told me they are afraid to do so
    in fear of retaliation from those who have stolen from them. But I have had
    private discussions (sometimes at backyard bar-b-ques) with authors,
    researchers and even presidents of OTR clubs who have all expressed the same
    [removed] and often against the same individuals. I do not intend to
    police the web-sites that are "ripping off" other people's works, nor do I
    have the time to do so. But I do feel it is my obligation to make public a
    small list of web-sites and the logs that appear on those sites, and reveal
    credit where credit is due.

    Regarding the web-site listed [removed]

    AS EASY AS ABC -- was originally compiled by Martin Grams from scripts at the
    Library of Congress.
    ARTHUR HOPKINS PRESENTS -- same
    BROADWAY IS MY BEAT - copyright 7/5/96 by Terry Salomonson and no one has yet
    provided a log pre-dating 7/5/96.
    CABIN B-13 -- originally compiled by Martin Grams from scripts courtesy of
    the John Dickson Carr estate
    THE FIRST NIGHTER PROGRAM -- Ray Stanich deserves credit because he compiled
    the log from the NBC files (many people will verify that and his log has been
    in circulation for more than two decades).
    GANG BUSTERS -- originated from my GANG BUSTERS book, thanks to Bill Abbott
    who spent long hours at the Library of Congress.
    MR. KEEN, TRACER OF LOST PERSONS -- as mentioned prior, Jim Cox deserves the
    credit
    HOPALONG CASSIDY -- Bernard Drew, who did the initial log (and copyrighted
    it) in the early nineties and deserves the credit.
    THE LONE RANGER -- We all know that Terry Salomonson receives credit for
    compiling the only log ever done on THE LONE RANGER and from Trendle's
    archive which is in Terry's possession. And Terry goofed by accident on one
    title and it's on the web-site so if they did their own research, how did
    they happen to have the same mistake that ONLY appeared in Terry's log (for
    an episode that doesn't exist in recorded form so it didn't originate from a
    collector catalog).
    QUIET, PLEASE -- Randy Eidemiller and Chris Lembesis had access to the
    original scripts, including the lost episodes, courtesy of the Library of
    American Broadcasting in College Park. They did the only log that has since
    been copied numerous times.
    THE WITCH'S TALE -- David Siegel deserves credit for being the first and only
    person to do a log on the show, who also owns the Alonzo Deen Cole archive.
    21ST PRECINCT was originally done by Stewart Wright and originally appeared
    in an issue of SPERDVAC. Where is his name credited?

    [removed] also features logs where the obvious sources
    are not being credited.

    GANG BUSTERS originated from my book.
    FIRST NIGHTER PROGRAM -- again, Ray Stanich

    This is just a SMALL sample of what can be found on the internet. Yes, I am
    aware of shows like ESCAPE and X MINUS ONE where logs have been circulating
    for decades and in those cases I have met a number of people, all of whom
    have claimed they were the first to originate the logs and that everyone else
    ripped them off. I am not centering or addressing those shows. Others like
    BOX 13 and DAMON RUNYON THEATER are short runs and therefore anyone could
    compile a log simply by collecting the recordings and using the titles and
    dates provided in a vendor catalog. Again, I am not addressing those shows.

    There is a web-site based out of Australia devoted to all things SUPERMAN.
    They reprinted a broadcast log out of a book I edited, RADIO DRAMA, for their
    web-site. They credited my name and RADIO DRAMA as the source. After sending
    e-mails to the webmaster on an infrequent basis for a period of four years,
    explaining that a man named Fred Shay did the log from the radio scripts in
    his collection (which is clearly acknowledged in RADIO DRAMA), they have yet
    to correct that. They still credit me when in fact, they should be crediting
    Fred Shay. To this date, they continue to ignore my e-mails. (When I edited
    RADIO DRAMA, I sought out those responsible for originating the log, sought
    permission, and made sure it was evident throughout the book who did each of
    those respective logs.)

    Lou Genco once featured a broadcast log of DUFFY'S TAVERN on his web site.
    Someone deliberately stole credit by posting their name as author. After a
    friendly exchange with Lou, he provided me the e-mail address of the party
    who submitted it to him. They did reply to my e-mail, claiming they got the
    log from three issues of SPERDVAC (which I authored, by the way) and after
    the explanation was delivered, Lou was kind enough to remove their name and
    place mine in it's place. I wasn't trying to start any crap or take credit
    for someone else's work. I was merely setting the record straight and Lou
    (God bless him) was 100 percent honest and understanding about the situation
    and made the effort to correct the error.

    I feel sorry for Tom Price, who knew Jim Jordan personally, went through all
    of the bound scripts in Jim's basement, and compiled the first broadcast
    log/episode guide on the subject. To this day, people have been reprinting
    the log (including titles for episodes not known to exist in recorded form --
    the big tip-off) and fail to give him any credit. I once talked to Tom by
    phone and asked if he was aware of this (during our conversation) and he
    remarked, "that's why I don't care to get back into the hobby or research
    another subject." He's out of the hobby altogether.

    My co-author for the recent GREEN HORNET book was recently approached by
    someone wanting to post a log based on the material from our book. They
    didn't bother to ask both of us, they only approached Terry. The book hasn't
    even been in print more than 60 days yet! Having paid The Green Hornet, Inc.
    for the trademark use of The Black Beauty, Kato and The Green Hornet, for
    which they receive a fee for every book sale, they do have a financial
    interest in web-sites choosing to post information taken directly from the
    book. Thanks to Terry and George Trendle Jr., about one third of the episodes
    in circulation can now have the correct titles and airdates. And I know for a
    fact that The Green Hornet, Inc. is keeping an eye out for those who choose
    to impair sales by plagiarizing information from the book without due credit.
    The internet has both helped and hurt the hobby. It's made it easier for
    researchers to contact librarians across the country without the use of a
    phone, receive scans of pages and photos without the unnecessary postal
    expense, and tells people about books fans never knew existed. But on the
    other hand, it has harmed book sales by giving people an excuse why they
    shouldn't invest in a well-researched tome. But giving credit where credit is
    due can help intrigue those seeking more info and thus counteract the effects
    their actions cause by plagiarism.

    In closing, we are all aware that everyone has the same goal in mind. To
    create broadcast logs for radio programs to help document and preserve the
    hobby. Without logs, we wouldn't have the correct dates and titles for
    recordings in our collections. But recent efforts such as my GANG BUSTERS and
    Jim Cox's MR. KEEN logs should, at the very least, be credited accordingly.
    In other words, if you're going to rip off someone's hard earned efforts, at
    least have the decency to acknowledge who's work you ripped off. There is no
    excuse for anyone who posts a log on their site without giving due credit or
    citing the source.

    I know this posting will probably generate a negative e-mail or two towards
    me (there is always someone who wants to debate or argue privately), and
    dozens and dozens of "thank yous" via e-mail, but having discussed this with
    a few authorities in the hobby, I felt it should be brought to light and set
    the record straight. People, PLEASE give credit where credit is due.

    Martin Grams

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    Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:27:24 -0400
    From: Michael Berger <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Author Author
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    Anyone know the whereabouts of a late 1930s radio show called Author!
    Author!, chaired by SJ Perelman?
    Michael Berger

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    Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:27:29 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-21 births/deaths

    April 21st births

    04-21-1891 - Dr. Howard W. Haggard - d. 4-22-1959
    alcoholism expert: "Devils, Drugs and Doctors"
    04-21-1891 - Will Donaldson - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-16-1954
    composer, arranger, musician: "The Wonder Bakers Orchestra"
    04-21-1895 - Max Jordan - San Remo, Italy - d. 11-28-1977
    correspondent: "NBC News"
    04-21-1898 - King Calder - Maryland - d. 6-28-1964
    actor: James Anderson "Second Mrs. Burton"; Will Stevenson "Barry
    Cameron"
    04-21-1905 - Ted Osborne - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 2-12-1987
    actor: Dr. Carough "Dr. Kildare"; Professor Whiz the Owl "Cinnamon Bear"
    04-21-1907 - Beatrice Kay - The Bronx, NY - d. 11-8-1986
    singer: "Gaslight Gayeties"; "Beatrice Kay Show"
    04-21-1907 - Wade Mainer - Weaversville, NC
    country: (Mainer's Crazy Mountaineers) "Crazy Water Crystals Barn Dance"
    04-21-1911 - Leonard Warren - The Bronx, NY - d. 3-4-1960
    singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Telephone Hour"
    04-21-1914 - Norman Panama - Chicago, IL - d. 1-13-2003
    writer: "Pepsodent Show starring Bob Hope"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-21-1915 - Anthony Quinn - Chihauha, Mexico - d. 6-3-2001
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Your Radio Theatre"
    04-21-1916 - Hunter D. Hancock - Uvalde, TX - d. 8-4-2004
    disk jockey: Early rhythm and blues rock 'n' roll platter spinner
    04-21-1919 - Don Cornell - NYC - d. 2-23-2004
    singer: "Sammy Kaye's Sunday Serenade"; "One Night Stand"; "The Big
    Show"
    04-21-1920 - Jim Nabbie - d. 9-12-1992
      lead tenor: (Member of the Ink Spots) "The Four Ink Spots"; "Let's
    Go Nightclubbing"
    04-21-1921 - Betty Jane Rhodes - Rockford, IL
    vocalist: "Meet Me at Parky's"; "The Packard Hour"
    04-21-1923 - John Mortimer - London, England - d. 1-16-2009
    author: "Rumpole of the Bailey"
    04-21-1923 - Tex Antoine - d. 1-12-1983
    announcer: "The Eternal Light"; "Jane Pickens Show"
    04-21-1923 - Tex Antoine - d. 1-12-1983
    announcer: "The Eternal Light"; "Jane Pickens Show"
    04-21-1927 - Jose Miguel Agrelot - San Juan, Puerto Rico - d. 1-28-2004
    comedian: Torito "The College of Happiness"
    04-21-1930 - Alec Gregonzi - London, England - d. 6-4-2006
    actor: Fred "Hancock's Half Hour"
    04-21-1930 - Kirby Ayres - d. 11-16-2005
    disk jockey: "Bob and Ray Present the CBS Radio Network"
    04-21-1932 - Elaine May - Philadelphia, PA
    comedian: "Mike Nicholes and Elaine May"; "Monitor"
    04-21-1933 - Jim Harmon - Mount Carmel, IL - d. 2-16-2010
    author: "The Great Radio Heroes"

    April 21st deaths

    01-02-1904 - James Melton - Moultrie, GA - d. 4-21-1961
    singer" "Palmolive Hour"; "Telephone Hour"; "Harvest of Stars"
    02-21-1933 - Nina Simone - Tyron, NC - d. 4-21-2003
    singer: "Voices of Vista"
    03-03-1890 - Edmund Lowe - San Jose, CA - d. 4-21-1971
    actor: Sergeant Quirt "Captain Flagg and Sergeant Quirt"
    04-18-1911 - Louis Vittes - d. 4-21-1969
    writer: "Advs. of The Thin Man"; "Affairs of Peter Salem"; "The Lone
    Wolf"
    05-03-1902 - Walter Slezak - Vienna,  Austria - d. 4-21-1983
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Best Plays"; "Studio One"; "Columbia
    Workshop"
    06-09-1890 - Leslie Banks - West Derby, England - d. 4-21-1952
    actor: "Theatre of Romance"
    06-25-1915 - Peter Lind Hayes - San Francisco, CA - d. 4-21-1998
    actor: "Jack Benny Program"; "Texaco Town"; "Ford Show"; "Lum and Abner"
    07-07-1927 - Gloria Mann - New York - d. 4-21-1961
    actor: Veronica Lodge "Archie Andrews"
    07-22-1894 - Major George Fielding Eliot - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-21-1971
    cbs military analyst during World War II
    08-13-1904 - Charles "Buddy" Rogers - Olathe, KS - d. 4-21-1999
    bandleader, actor: (America's Boyfriend) "Twin Stars"; "Pick-A-Date"
    08-21-1908 - Bob Jellison - Des Moines, IA - d. 4-21-1980
    actor: Oswald Ching "Story of Mary Marlin"; Buster Gunn "Great Gunns"
    08-29-1906 - Joe Sawyer - Guelph, Canada - d. 4-21-1982
    actor: Sergant 'Biff' O'Hara "Rin-Tin-Tin"
    09-19-1916 - Helen Ward - NYC - d. 4-21-1998
    jazz singer: (Benny Goodman's Band) "Let's Dance"
    09-29-1890 - Nils Thor Granlund - Korpibomboia, Lapland, Sweden - d.
    4-21-1957
    broadway producer: "[removed] and His Girls"
    10-12-1930 - Cyril Tawney - d. 4-21-2005
    folk singer: "Folkspin"; "Alan Lomax Show"
    10-21-1892 - Gummo Marx - NYC  - d. 4-21-1977
    comedian: (Marx Brothers) "American Review"
    10-26-1897 - Louis Castellucci - Italy - d. 4-21-1988
    trombonist, composer: "Dragnet"
    10-26-1929 - Neal Matthews - Nashville, TN - d. 4-21-2000
    singer: (Jordonaires) "Grand Ole Opry"; "Jim Reeves Show"
    10-31-1909 - Thelma Boardman - Panama Canal Zone - d. 4-21-1978
    actor: Minnie Mouse "Mickey Mouse Theatre of the Air"
    11-05-1895 - Charles MacArthur - Scranton, PA - d. 4-21-1956
    playwright: "Jumbo Fire Chief Program"; "Chase and Sanborn Hour"

    Ron

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