Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #17
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 1/17/2002 9:03 AM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 17
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Red and White stores                  [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      looking for radio writers and an act  [ "Christian Blees" <christian-blees@ ]
      Howard Culver and TV and movies       [ "William Harper" <whhsa@[removed] ]
      you guys are GREAT!                   [ Rick <sixshooter27us@[removed]; ]
      Re: GODFREY, THE SHY GUY/FIRST PAYCH  [ "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail ]
      Command Performance query             [ alo <alo@[removed]; ]
      Technial Question                     [ davesline@[removed] ]
      GODFREY, THE SHY GUY/FIRST PAYCHECK   [ "Steve Wilson" <stevewilson46@hotma ]
      hiccups                               [ Michael Browning <aquarii2u@[removed] ]
      Archie news                           [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      Archie Andrews                        [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
      Gildy's wife                          [ "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed] ]
      Godfrey's FDR "Funeral" Broadcast     [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
      Re: Interesting audio and video       [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
      ORGAN AND ACTOR                       [ "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@charter- ]
      TELLO TEST QUIZ                       [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Episode Date                          [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
      Re: Bob and Ray                       [ NorthernRd@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:40:43 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Red and White stores

    Red and White's were small neighborhood grocery stores. The store in our
    neighborhood in Pasadena  was about the size of a Seven Eleven or
    perhaps slightly smaller. During WWII my friends and I spent alot of
    time after school at the store which was an open front building. The
    owner(I suspect that these were franchises of some sort) would open the
    folding gate in the front, open the awning which extended several feet
    over the side walk and then rolled out the Coca Cola cooler which had a
    block of ice in it, as well as many other brands of soft [removed]
    were 5 cents if you drank it there or 6 cents if you took the bottle
    with you.(of course you could get your penny deposit back when you
    brought the empty back)
    The store carried quite alot of different products, even some produce if
    I  recall. I used to be sent on errands to get this or that at the Red
    and White always clutching the coin in one hand and the ration stamp
    book in the other. Also I remember buying penny "sen sen"(spelling ?)
    and nickel "Cracker Jacks" and 5cent Hershey bars. So you see that there
    is nothing new about junk food.
    George Aust

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:40:51 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1939 - The shrill siren call of radio’s I Love a Mystery was heard for
    the first time as the show debuted on NBC’s West-Coast outlets

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:42:55 -0500
    From: "Christian Blees" <christian-blees@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: looking for radio writers and an actor from

    the 50s
    Approved: ctrn4eeWlc

    Dear otr friends,

    as a German otr fan I did a lot of research on the Marlene Dietrich
    radio series "Time for love" during the past nine months. Looking
    through outlines and radio scripts I came across some names of writers
    for that series and would be glad for any info on the following persons:

    Ian Martin
    Bill Hoffmann
    Jack R. Guss
    Jerry Adelman
    Alfred Bercovici
    Milt Gelman
    Fielden Farrington
    Eugene Francis
    Budd Fishel

    I am also looking for info on an actor named Burt Cullen, Bert Collin or
    something like that - I don't know how the name is spelled exactly. He
    was the one who played Marlene Dietrich's lover in the second season of
    that series.

    I am mainly interested to know if there is anybody of the above still
    alive or if anybody knows anything about still living relatives of these
    persons. Any help is highly appreciated!

    Thanks in advance from across the Atlantic,

    Christian

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:43:31 -0500
    From: "William Harper" <whhsa@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Howard Culver and TV and movies

    Dear Folks;
    An SASE and written request to William Harper, 301 E. Buena Vista Avenue,
    North Augusta, SC  29841 (home of POW-WOW the definitive source for Straight
    Arrow information) will get you an 8 page listing of most of the TV and
    movie appearances of Howard.  This list was compiled years ago by Lois
    Culver.  I will also include a source address for the movie -30- starring
    Jack Webb, William Conrad, David Nelson and a huge role by Howard as a
    rewrite man.
    Manituwah,
    Bill

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:49:24 -0500
    From: Rick <sixshooter27us@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: you guys are GREAT!

    I bought a CD/MP3 player at target the other day. It
    was a good price and came with a car adapter (Memorex
    model). Well, it breaks the shows and songs up into
    pieces and doesn't even "see" some shows. I brought it
    back and the guy said "they all do that". I went
    across the street to Circuit City and saw a player
    I've heard many of you [removed] the Rio Volt. I had
    some CD's with me so I tried them out. WORKED
    WONDERFUL! It was $95 and I bought it right away. Now
    I've been listening to my OTRs in the car as well as
    my extensive music collection. Just wanted to say a
    collective "thanks" to you guys for the suggestion.
    Rick

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: I don't know what model Rick had, but I can tell you the
    Memorex MPD8610-01 that the Mrs. and the Katester gave me for Christmas (no
    car adapter included, but I have one) works [removed] listening to
    Superman MP3s burned onto a CD-RW every evening when I take my walks.
    [removed] I don't have any excuse NOT to take my [removed]  --cfs3]

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:50:02 -0500
    From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: GODFREY, THE SHY GUY/FIRST PAYCHECK

    "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; writes:

>     He moved on [from WFBR Baltimore] to Washington [removed] and the NBC Network,
>     where he made a name for himself narrating President Roosevelts Funeral.

    Godfrey did work for WRC, NBC's station in Washington, but his tenure there
    was short (I don't recall exactly why he left). He went from there to CBS'
    WJSV, where he was the morning disc jockey for several years. His first
    great national exposure was probably becoming Fred Allen's announcer on CBS'
    "Texaco Time" when that show contracted from 60 to 30 minutes; I believe he
    also did local morning shows for both WABC New York and WJSV around the same
    time. At the very least, Godfrey was nationally known before covering FDR's
    funeral for CBS, and to the best of my knowledge he never worked for NBC
    after leaving WRC.

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:50:21 -0500
    From: alo <alo@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Command Performance query

    Hello folks,

    I'm just curious about this -- what are the oddest "commands" you can think
    of that were acted out on Command Performance?

    I know of Lana Turner frying a steak, Carole Landis sighing, Errol Flynn
    showering (!) and Ann Miller tap-dancing in combat boots.

    Anyone?

    Thanks in advance,
    Amanda

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:56:06 -0500
    From: davesline@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Technial Question

    I realize this not a question dealing directly with OTR
    but I am one of those collectors still using a reel to
    reel tape recorders for program storage and now
    the "heart" of my system my Tanberg 3000 has lost it's
    drive belt. Does anyone know of a good source for
    belts. This unit uses a single belt that is [removed] inches
    in circumference so it will be a tough one to find. I
    would love to hear from anyone with sources. Thanks,
    Dave Palmer

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:07:59 -0500
    From: "Steve Wilson" <stevewilson46@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: GODFREY, THE SHY GUY/FIRST PAYCHECK

    Owens Pomeroy wrote:

>     And don't forget, fellow posters, The Old Redhead got
>     his start at WFBR in Baltimore, the same station where I put in a few
>     years.

    Owens, we would all like to hear what years you were at WFBR in Baltimore
    and just what you did there in those days.

    Steve

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:04:37 -0500
    From: Michael Browning <aquarii2u@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: hiccups

    While I record old time radio programs off the
    internet from some of the websites, I notice that once
    in awhile I end up getting some of the programs having
    hiccups. What causes them?  This doesn't just happen
    when I record, it also happens at times when I
    listening to the radio over the internet.
    Michael Browning
    aquarii2u@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:45:38 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Archie news

    One member of this group will probably be especially interested in this
    press release:

    NEW YORK, Jan. 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Archie Entertainment today announced a
    venture to launch a real life music group based upon the comic book
    characters of Archie Comic Publications, Inc.

    Over the years, the music sung by The Archies, including the song "Sugar,
    Sugar" which was the number one song for 1969, was performed by studio
    musicians. Under the terms of the agreement, Archie Entertainment will
    license the venture to create The Archies as a real life music group.

    The venture will launch a nationwide talent search in cities across the
    United States to discover members for
    The Archies. Following the search, the group will begin work immediately
    on their debut album and commence a rigorous schedule of rehearsals in
    advance of touring.

    The content of every activity involving the group will be subject to the
    approval of Archie Entertainment, in order to preserve the wholesome
    tradition of the beloved fictional Riverdale High School teenagers first
    introduced in the 1940s.

    Archie Comic Publications Inc. launched Archie Entertainment in September
    of 2001 in order to pursue
    an exciting array of family oriented entertainment projects.

    "This venture is the first in a slate of new projects Archie
    Entertainment will be launching during 2002 as Archie
    Comics celebrates its diamond jubilee 60 year anniversary," said Richard
    Goldwater, Archie Entertainment Co-Chairman.

    "Other Archie Entertainment projects in active development are a Sabrina
    theatrical motion picture, an Archie stage production, creation of online
    communities for families as part of the ongoing enhancement of the Archie
    Comics website ([removed]) regularly visited by
    millions of people."

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:04:28 -0500
    From: Grbmd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Archie Andrews

    Archie Andrews enters our discussions partly because radio's "Jughead" is on
    the Digest.  Meanwhile, back at the ranch -- that is, back at the hard-copy
    version -- we might note that a cartoonist of the comic strip has passed on.
    Our OTR Web site has listed his obit thus:

    "Dan DeCarlo, a cartoonist who took over the 'Archie' comic strip after
    creator Bob Montana died in 1975, died of pneumonia Dec. 18 at the age of 82."

    I maintain our Web site, and if I had any more info on DeCarlo I would add it
    to his obit.  Does Hal or anyone else have any more to add to this obit?

    By the way -- and here's a *shameless plug* coming up -- our Web site for the
    Golden Radio Buffs of Maryland is:

    [removed]

    Spence

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:30:42 -0500
    From: "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Gildy's wife

    I have a question for those who may remember.  I was listening to a Fibber
    show last night entitled "Property Line" (sorry, no date available), but it
    was was before Gildy moved to Summerfield. Fibber and Gildy are arguing
    about where the property line dividing their properties are, and Gildy makes
    several references to his wife.  I don't remember his ever having a wife
    when he moved to Summerfield.  Was she one of those "invisible" wives when
    he still lived next to the McGees?

    Does anybody know about the wife thing?  Was the discrepancy ever addressed
    when all of a sudden, he just didn't have one?  Just curious.

    Jimidene
    "Keepin' It Alive"

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:33:40 -0500
    From: leemunsick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Godfrey's FDR "Funeral" Broadcast

    Perhaps it should be pointed out that Arthur Godfrey's broadcast on CBS
    (not NBC) was of the funeral cortege through Washington, not the funeral.

    I've been trying for years to locate a recording of the full Godfrey
    broadcast that day.   Most people today have only heard the short piece
    used in the Murrow-Friendly "Hear It Now" Columbia record album for 1945.

    In it, Mr. Godfrey refers to the car about to pass in front of his vantage
    point, carrying the new President, Harry Truman, and the terrible
    responsibilities that would accrue to Truman.  If one listens carefully,
    it's obvious that Mr. Godfrey was having difficulty continuing.

    He was personally friendly with President and Mrs. Roosevelt.  It was that
    Commander-in-Chief who learned that the [removed] Navy was refusing to give
    former Navy enlisted man Godfrey a commission in the Navy Reserve, because
    Mr. Godfrey was physically impaired after his horrific 1931 head-on auto
    crash.  That nearly killed him, caused dozens of fractures, and left him
    with constant pain and headaches for the rest of his life.

    It also caused Mr. Godfrey to listen for months at his hospital bed to
    other radio announcers, with the broad "A", formal, oratorical
    approach.  He developed the philosophy of "What 'ladies and gentlemen' of
    the audience?  I'm just one guy here, and that's what the audience usually
    [removed] person.  If someone came in here to visit me, we'd talk to each
    other, and the radio would be turned off".  From then on it was "Hello,
    folks!"   His informal approach was warmly received by his audience and
    eventually changed radio forever, as nearly everyone else swung in line.

    Mr. Godfrey was understandably an FDR enthusiast.  When the question of his
    Navy Reserve appointment reached FDR via his wife Eleanor, President
    Roosevelt asked his Navy aide, "Have you ever tried to keep up with that
    man for a day?  This Commander-in-Chief can't get up out of this
    X!@#$%^&*() [removed] Godfrey his commission!"  A direct order, which
    was obeyed.

    Mr. Godfrey was given a commission as Lt. Commander.  He was probably one
    of the best salesman and recruiter the [removed] Navy ever had.  Years later he
    was promoted to full Commander.  He qualified to, and did fly just about
    every aircraft in the Navy's roster, and passed training and qualified for
    flight to and from a Navy aircraft carrier.

    Ultimately at the request of Air Force General Curtis Lemay, who retired as
    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and with the express permission of
    the Secretary of Defense, Godfrey resigned the Navy commission.  He
    transferred to the [removed] Air Force Reserve as a full "bird Colonel".  Here
    again, he qualified and flew just about every aircraft in the Air Force
    arsenal!  As Col. Godfrey, he retired from his remarkable military career
    which during his lifetime included the Navy, the Coast Guard, Navy again,
    and finally Air Force, plus a time as a youngster when he worked as a
    civilian typist for the [removed] Army!

    Back to the Roosevelt procession:  Mr. Godfrey mentioned something like
    "most people aren't having the difficult time I have of seeing" (I don't
    have the exact quote before me), which was the tip-off that Mr. Godfrey was
    losing his composure and choking up.  Realizing this, he suddenly said, "We
    return you now to the studio".

    I am told that when that happened, there was no-one at the studio to take
    up the slack.  The Washington staff were scattered all over Washington for
    CBS's wide coverage there.  The engineering or program staff threw it right
    back to Godfrey, who recovered his poise somewhat, and continued.

    In the last segment of the last day of Mr. Godfrey's regular CBS radio
    program, he closed by playing that same bit from the "Hear It Now" album,
    certainly the single most famous Godfrey broadcast.  It was not that which
    made him a big star.  It did get some public attention, but it was hard
    work and diligence which made him the biggest personality radio ever had.

    The end of his final broadcast segment concluded several weeks of
    reminiscing about his more than four decades of broadcasting.  It signalled
    the conclusion of the very last regular network entertainment program.  The
    penultimate program to leave the air weeks before was Don McNeill's
    Breakfast Club on ABC.

    Many people have commented to me that Mr. Godfrey was often quoted
    correctly and recorded as saying he was very embarrassed by his behavior in
    the FDR broadcast.  He said he would never cover a news event again,
    because he was an emotional person and couldn't keep from breaking up.  So
    why, people ask, would he then close his scheduled broadcast career by
    airing that very embarrassing moment?

    Think about it:  He knew leaving the air would cause him to suffer the same
    reaction, and understandably so.  Whether one loved Godfrey or hated him
    (there were many of both), one could certainly understand him becoming
    emotional at what seemed the end of that long career.

    Since he would break up anyway, he covered it up by playing the 1945 bit,
    suddenly said a few words, and left the air.

    Mr. Godfrey's contribution to the FDR coverage I am told ran 45 minutes to
    an hour.  I dearly wish someone would come up with it!  Please!

    Now to the matter of Mr. Godfrey making that "really risque'" comment from
    Hawaii.  If that's what someone is going to call that mild and ancient
    joke, then the [removed] was a nation of prudes and Mr. Godfrey deserves the
    reputation of being a dirty-mouthed character, an accusation with which I
    really don't agree.  Big deal.

    Hope this is of interest and "clears the air" re Mr. Pomeroy's posting.

    Lee Munsick

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    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:10:54 -0500
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: Interesting audio and video

    Thanks to Lou Genco, who is my web master, the video clip is up and
    running. Please take a look and let me know what you think. You will find
    it by going to my web site [removed]  and the
    selecting OLD TIME RADIO. On the left side of the page is a frame you can
    scroll down.

    Go down near the bottom and you will see a link call Work In Progress.
    Click on there and check out two video clips and one audio clip. The
    content of both video clips is the same, but each is done at a different
    rate. Please let me know which one looks or runs better.

    While you are there, check out the other pages. On one or two pages, I
    forget how many, I've got a full 30 minute radio show you can listen to.
    Lots of stuff to listen to and more to come.

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    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:20:53 -0500
    From: "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: ORGAN AND ACTOR

    	Hi Anybody,
        In answer to organ at [removed] radio I was told by a organ repairman in
    [removed] that the organ used on the "Amos 'N Andy" show was sold to a man who
    lived in Webster Groves,Mo. (near [removed]) and had it installed in his home
    and upon his death it was dismantled and sold in pieces because it brought in
    more money to be sold that way. Sorry it ended that way.
        On that actor in the photo with Bogart and Parsons it was the same one I
    think it was Phil who spelled it corectly.
    			Till Next Time,Harold

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    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:21:23 -0500
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: TELLO TEST QUIZ

    RE: russ Butler's comments on TELLO TEST QUIZ --
    At least here, in the Boston area, the show, TELLO TEST QUIZ was hosted by
    Fred Lang at WNAC.  At other times other staff announcers did the show Monday
    through Friday at 7:15 PM, but Fred was the loig-time and original host.
    Listeners didn't call in -- Fred dialed them on the studio phone from
    "numbers scientifically selected from the Greater Boston and Vicinity
    directories."
    Most of us were aware that the "scientific selection" was completely random.
    When Fred reached a home listener, he would ask if they were listening to
    TELLO-TEST QUIZ.  I think the game was open even if you were not listening.
    He would ask a fairly simple question.  If it was not answered within a time
    period, the caller lost, and another $3 or $5 was put in the "Jackpot" for
    the next caller.  It sometimes could get over $100 which was a big prize in
    those days!!!
    The program may have been carried on the Yankee Network too, I'm not certain.
    Tom Heathwood   Heritage Radio   - Boston    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:21:32 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1938 - Francis X. Bushman was the star of the program, Stepmother, which
    debuted on CBS radio. The show continued on the air for the next four
    years.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:21:43 -0500
    From: Kubelski@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Episode Date

    Can anyone provide a date for the episode of "The Falcon" entitled "The Case
    of the Missing Miss?"

    Thanks for any assistance,

    Sean Dougherty
    Kubelski@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:21:56 -0500
    From: NorthernRd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: Bob and Ray

    Jeff Bankens writes:

>     Does any one know how many Mr. Science sketches Bob & Ray did?
>     Thanks in advance!

    Try writing to Larry Josephson, keeper of the Bob and Ray Archives. His web
    site: [removed]

    Alan Bartenhagen

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