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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 11


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 The Lost Ship
	 Ruby 4 (new ZBS production)
	 Re: Freberg as an OTR host
	 DeMarco Sisters
	 YUSA, The Shadow, other [removed]
	 The "First" Radio Broadcast
	 Re: Shadow program date.
	 Re: WBAI OTR (Max Schmid on WBAI) 
	 John Todd Unmasked!

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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 96 13:07:32 EST
From: platecap@[removed] (Bob B)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The Lost Ship
Message-Id: <m0tZMQl-000YOEC@[removed]>

The Lost Ship was a Suspense show broadcast on 8/26/62.

Bob Burnham; BRC Productions; [removed] Box 2645; Livonia, MI 48151
voice (313) 277-3798;  fax (313) 277-3095; internet platecap@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:18:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Room 237 <room237@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ruby 4 (new ZBS production)
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

For all those interested in modern radio drama/comedy/etc., the new Ruby 
series (part 4) is an excellent program and worth the cash.  Of course, 
anything by ZBS is worth it in my opinion. :)  If you're not familiar 
with ZBS, give them a call for a free catalog at 1-800-662-3345,
Monday-Friday 8am to 4pm EST.  They produce fantastic sci-fi, fantasy, 
and comedy programs.  If you have any questions, feel free to write me.  
Enjoy!

(I'm not employed by ZBS, just a fan since 1980)

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 14:25:24 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Freberg as an OTR host
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

Platecap@[removed] (Bob B) writes:
>Let me first say I LOVE Freberg's work on his OWN shows (such as the sadly
>short run of the Stan Freberg Show), however, as a host of a vintage radio
>show, he sounds a little too scripted and stiff in my opinion.

He sounds a _lot_ scripted, IMHO, and having heard his own work, I know
he could loosen up a bit. After all, he's not even in front of an audience
when he puts this program together.

Okay, beggars can't be choosers and I am listening to his show for free,
so my intent is not to flame Stan. The "you" below refers to the program
producers in general. Briefly:

Good Points:
-- Mercifully short commercial interruptions, at least as compared to
Chuck Schaden's commercial breaks, and somewhat fewer dubious products
(especially oddball health remedies) being advertised
-- Really detail-packed commentaries accompanying each show
-- Trivia question in each show which usually reminds me that I don't
know anywhere near as much trivia as I thought I did

Points that could use improvement:
-- Stop interrupting the 15-minute "B" program (in the back half of the
hour) with a commercial. You do _not_ need to sell the time that badly.
-- Stan, we know it's you. Introducing yourself once at the top of the
hour is really sufficient. (Okay, perhaps there's some sort of FCC
mandate at work here.  :-)

It was a bit jarring to go from Chuck Schaden's folksy delivery to
Stan's tight, read-every-semicolon-in-the-script recitation, but on
the whole I'm getting used to Stan's version and I think it's a pretty
good show overall.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Adobe Systems, Inc. (formerly Frame Technology)
Advanced Product Services
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:20:22 -0600
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed], mschmid@[removed]
Subject: DeMarco Sisters
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>        Midway through tonight's airing of The Fred Allen Show (5/09/48)
>w/ Don McNeil I picked up a phone call and was speaking to Ann DeMarco of
>The DeMarco Sisters, Allen's vocalists from 1945-49.  Someone told her the
>show was on and she called some of her sisters to tell them to listen! 

Now, this is fantastic!  I _love_ hearing the DeMarcos sing on Fred's show.
 In my opinion, of all the girl/sister singing groups of that time, the
DeMarcos were the best - the tightest and most precise in their harmonies,
and they really tore into those songs.  Their version of "On the Atchison,
Topeka and the Santa Fe" is my favorite rendition of that song.  I may be
out on a limb here with some of you, but that's my opinion.
Furthermore, a couple of years ago I was watching, on one of the classic
movie channels, a one-reel musical short, when the MC introduced two young
girls, sisters he said, to sing a song - "the DeMarcos"!  I guess the
remaining sisters were yet too young then.
Thanks for telling us this!

 
John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:19:59 -0500
From: SeptSev@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: YUSA, The Shadow, other [removed]
Message-ID: <960108191958_86178140@[removed]>

Hello [removed]
Does anyone out there know if this new RCA sat. TV dish with the package
called "Direct TV" has YUSA included in its' 27 music channels?

Also--
[removed] years did Welles do THE SHADOW and why did he stop?(Was it his exodus
to Hollywood?)

2. What is the status of the Shadow in the public domain?

3. What are the approximate years of the Black Museum?

and [removed]

4. Is THE THIRD MAN and HARRY LIME the same series, both with Welles?(And
what years did it [removed])

[removed]

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Date: 08 Jan 96 20:18:48 EST
From: "Francis X. Kelly" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Oldtime Radio Digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: The "First" Radio Broadcast
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

This subject surely is shrouded in the mists of time.  However FWIW here is a
quotation from _Empire of the Air_ by Tom Lewis, 1991, Edward Burlingame Books,
an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers.  This book seems to be very well
researched.

"In the early fall of 1906, [Ernst] Alexanderson's alternator arrived at
[Reginald Aubrey] Fessenden's station at Brant Rock, Massachusetts.  Soon he was
transmitting voices in tests, and by Christmas eve, he was ready to give his
first broadcast.  That night, ship operators and amateurs around Brant Rock
heard the results: 'someone speaking!...a woman's voice rose in [removed]
someone was heard reading a poem.'  Fessenden himself played "O Holy Night".
Although the fidelity was not all that it might be, listeners were captivated by
the voices and notes that they heard.  No more would sounds be restricted to
mere dots and dashes.
	"Fessenden was at the forefront of the entirely new concept of
'broadcasting,' the agricultural term for spreading seed across a field.  For
the most part, a wireless transmission had been a coded telegraph message
directed to a single person.  Because it traveled on waves through the air and
could be heard by anyone with a receiver tuned to the proper frequency, the
message could never be private.  This was viewed as the chief drawback of
wireless systems.  Now Fessenden was exploiting the public character of the
medium by sending words of a general nature to a broad audience.  To accomodate
this new concept, the word 'wireless' soon gave way to 'radio'" suggesting the
rays of electromagnetic waves radiating from a transmitter.
	"Soon others, including Lee de Forest, were sending voices rather than
code."

Since de Forest was a tireless self promoter, according to the Lewis book and
others, it's not surprising that he is credited by some as inventing radio
broadcasting in 1910, more than three years after Fessenden's December 24th,
1906 broadcast.  And note that Fessenden predated KDKA's election returns by
almost fourteen years.

Speaking of books, does anybody care to suggest the "essential" list of early
radio books?

Frank Kelly, Greenport New York

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:01:37 -0500
From: Jblackie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Shadow program date.
Message-ID: <960108200038_110388732@[removed]>

In a message dated 96-01-07 21:14:15 EST, Alan Bell writes:

>I've got a Shadow program titled The Terror at Wolfshead Knoll but don't
>have a date for it. I checked the log on Mr. Genco's Website and that title
>is not even listed. Could I have the wrong title? Any idea when it might
>be?

Alan, that would be 2/15/48, acording to my records.  I have a BAD copy of
that particular show, hope yours is better!

Jim

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:22:33 -0500 (EST)
From: mschmid@[removed]
To: airwaves <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: WBAI OTR (Max Schmid on WBAI) 
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Mon, 8 Jan 1996 Tom KleinSchmidt wrote:

> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:51:57 -0500
> From: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed]>
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: WBAI OTR
> Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
> 
> Hello,
>         Can someone please give me the correct day and time for Max Schmid's
> program on WBAI? Thanks.

> 
	I'll take a stab at this one.  To the best of my knowledge, The 
Golden Age of Radio, which has been on WBAI-FM [removed] FM in New York since at 
least 1977, is now heard on Sunday nights, 7:30 to 9:00 pm.
	That wacky character also has a late-night program called MASS
BACKWARDS, a compendium of OTR, British and Canadian radio dramas, Comedy, 
New York area airchecks from the '60s, Jean Shepherd at 5:25 am, and 
whatever else he feels like doing.  IMHO his taste in music is awful!  SO 
LOUD!  But we love him anyway.  Heard every Mon. night/Tuesday morning 3:30
to 6:00 am.

	VCR ALERT!!! On Sunday January 28, he will present a tribute to Orson 
Welles on the radio, from 7:30 pm to at least 6:00 am.  Guests will 
include surviving members of the Mercury Theatre, including Arthur Anderson,
(and 2 gents in California whose names elude me right now, oh the shame),
Anthony Tollin, authority on The Mercury Theatre, maybe Frank Beacham, 
who produced the Voyager tape set of "Theatre of the Imagination", now on
CD-ROM (list price $[removed], cheaper than the cassettes were, and with a 1938
short film about sound effects!)
	This special will try to include an example of every Welles series,
as well as rehearsals, bloopers, etc.  It will also include fundraising, as 
WBAI attempts to set a public broadcasting record of raising $1 (M)million in 
under 3 weeks!
	Any suggestions can be E-mailed directly to Max Schmid at
	    mschmid@[removed]  

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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 96 09:24:28 est
From: lee_maschmeyer@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: John Todd Unmasked!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Not long ago it was stated, or implied, in this group that John Todd was a 
native Irishman.  This surprised me as I had never heard it before.

My wife has a very active pen pal hobby (using cassettes instead of paper). 
 For some years, one of her correspondents has been a (the?) grandson of 
John Todd.  His name is Paul Cadenhead, and he's a disabled New York 
policeman now living outside Boston.  I asked my wife to inquire about 
Todd's birth.  As I had suspected, his ancestry is Irish, but he himself 
was born here (I don't know where).  But the astonishing thing I learned 
just last night is that John Todd was only a stage name.  His real name was 
Fred McCarthy.

Some other random LR thoughts:

I was listening to a couple early LR's with Earl Graser.  Contrary to all 
printed renderings I have seen, LR's cry seems to me to be:  "Hiyo Silver!  
Hurray!", not "Away!".  Of course, I am now deaf enough that I listened to 
nearly 30 TTR broadcasts convinced that the hero was named Jake Pierson 
instead of Jace (Jase?).  Anyone with normal hearing can tell this 
immediately.  So I should not place too much reliance on what I hear.  But 
it sure sounds like "Hurray!" in these early broadcasts.  Anyone have any 
feelings on this?  I don't mean what was printed, but what do you hear?

A long time ago we were talking about the origin of "Kemosaby" (or however 
it is spelled).  One of the suggestions was that it came from the Spanish 
"que mas sabe" (he who knows more) referring to LR, as a contrast to Tonto 
(fool).  It should be remembered, however, that when the word was first 
invented, it was LR who called Tonto "Kemosaby".  In the later broadcasts 
the situation was reversed and Tonto used it in talking to LR.

Learning, fumbling, misinformation, myth--they never end.  It's great!

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