Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #138
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Date: 5/18/2006 8:53 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 138
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      5-18 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Another Candidate for Too short run   [ "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed]; ]
      Link to Granby's Green Acres episode  [ "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed]; ]
      Anne Francis on OTR                   [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      Too Short                             [ "whhsa" <whhsa@[removed]; ]
      Shot runs of Radio Show               [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      MacDonald's works                     [ "otrbuff" <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Race cars and OTR                     [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Dick Van Patten on Radio              [ "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed] ]
      A NEW HOUDINI MOVIE                   [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      shows that ran too long               [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      STAN FREBERG                          [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Norman Corwin Question on Jeopardy    [ "John Weber" <wjweber@[removed] ]
      OTR connection                        [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      SPRING REVERB 2                       [ "Dave Adams" <daveadams-hollywood@c ]
      5-19 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:32:50 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-18 births/deaths

    May 18th births

    05-18-1892 - Ezio Pinza, Rome, Italy - d. 5-9-1957
    singer: "Telephone Hour"; "Ezio Pinza's Children Show"; "Stagestruck"
    05-18-1893 - Jean Goldkette - Patras, Greece - d. 3-24-1962
    bandleader: "The Studebaker Champion Program"
    05-18-1897 - Frank Capra - Bisacquino, Sicily - d. 9-3-1991
    film director: "Gulf Screen Theatre"; "NBC Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-18-1900 - Lew White - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-4-1955
    organist: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Break the Bank"; "Betty
    Moore"
    05-18-1900 - Raymond Paige - Wausau, WI (R; Los Angeles, CA)- d.
    8-7-1965
    conductor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Musical Americana"; "Stage Door Canteen"
    05-18-1902 - Meredith Willson - Mason City, IA - d. 6-15-1984
    conductor, composer: "Maxwell House Coffee Time"; "Meredith Willson/
    Music Room"
    05-18-1904 - Fred Shields - Kansas City, MO - d. 6-30-1974
    actor: Bill Fraser "Tarzan"
    05-18-1907 - Clifford Curzon - London, England - d. 9-2-1982
    pianist: "March of Dimes"
    05-18-1908 - Alastair McBain - d. 12-xx-1980
    author: "Cloak and Dagger"
    05-18-1908 - Del King - Kansas City, KS
    announcer: "Avalon Time"; "Tommy Dorsey's Kool Show"
    05-18-1908 - Ted Malone - Colorado Springs, CO - d. 10-20-1989
    commentator: "Between the Bookends"; "Pilgrimage of Poetry"
    05-18-1908 - Tommy Tucker - Souris, ND - d. 7-13-1989
    bandleader: "Lucky Strike Show with Walter Winchell"; "George Jessel
    Show"
    05-18-1912 - Perry Como - Canonsburg, PA - d. 5-12-2001
    singer: "Perry Como Program"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"
    05-18-1922 - Bill Macy - Revere, MA
    actor: "Earplay"
    05-18-1922 - Kai Winding - Aarhus, Denmark - d. 5-7-1983
    musician: "Stan Kenton and His Orchestra"; "One Night Stand"; "Jubilee"
    05-18-1924 - Jack Whitaker - Philadelphia, PA
    disc jockey, sportscaster: "Jack the Bachelor"; "Sports Shots"
    05-18-1931 - Robert Morse - Newton, MA
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    05-18-1936 - Joel Kupperman - Chicago, IL
    panelist: "Quiz Kids"

    May 18th deaths

    02-06-1888 - Lucille Gleason - Pasadena, CA - d. 5-18-1947
    actor: "Jimmy Gleason's Diner"
    03-21-1893 - Sidney Franklin - San Francisco, CA - d. 5-18-1972
    film producer, director: "Academy Awards Program"; "Screen Guild
    Theatre"
    03-25-1892 - Andy Clyde - Blaingowrie, Scotland - d. 5-18-1967
    actor: California Carlson "Hopalong Cassidy"
    05-03-1919 - Doris Rich - Canada - d. 5-18-1971
    actor: Hannah O'Leary" Houseboat Hannah"; Miss Daisey "Portia Faces
    Life"
    06-13-1890 - Elmer Davis - Aurora, IN - d. 5-18-1958
    newscaster: "Elmer Davis and the News"
    06-18-1919 - Ed Simmons - d. 5-18-1998
    writer, director: "The Martin and Lewis Show"; "The Quiz Kids"
    06-29-1908 - Leroy Anderson - Cambridge, MA - d. 5-18-1975
    compser, arranger: " Contemporary Composers Concerts"; "Must for
    America"
    08-31-1908 - William Saroyan - Fresno, CA - d. 5-18-1981
    writer: "Columbia Workshop"; "The Free Company"; "Biography in Sound"
    09-09-1927 - Elvin Ray Jones - Pontiac, MI - d. 5-18-2004
    jazz drummer: "Newport Jazz Festival"
    10-12-1906 - Daniel Saidenberg - d. 5-18-1997
    conductor: "Alec Templeton Time"
    11-16-1912 - Paul Dudley - Massachusetts - d. 5-18-1959
    writer: "Pot o' Gold"; "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
    11-23-1912 - Tyree Glenn - Corsicana, TX - d. 5-18-1974
    trombonist, vibraphonist: "Duke Ellington Carnegie Hall Concert"
    11-27-1925 - Marshall Thompson - Peoria, IL - d. 5-18-1992
    actor: "Free World Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-29-1905 - Mario Braggiotti - Florence, Italy - d. 5-18-1996
    pianist, composer: "Fray and Braggiotti"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Birthplace of Johnny Jacobs

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:22:58 -0400
    From: "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Another Candidate for Too short run
     series-Granby's Green Acres
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         There was a series called Granby's Green Acres that aired July 3-August
    21, 1950 on [removed] Bea Benaderet and Gale Gordon as a City couple who
    move to a farm in the [removed] that premise sounds familiar, it is because
    The 1960's TV series Green Acres was based on this show.  Jay Sommers wrote,
    produced and directed the radio show and was creator of the TV
    series.(produced by Paul Henning)  Differences between Radio and TV versions:

    Radio:Couple Named Granby
    TV:Douglas

    Radio:Granby-Bank Teller
    TV-Douglas-Attorney

    Radio:Granbys had a daughter
    TV:Douglases had no children

    Radio:Eb is played as an old wisened farmhand
    TV:Eb is played as young-not too bright farmhand

    Radio:County Agent:Actually has a clue
    TV:County Agent (Kimball)doesnt know where he is half the time

    Radio:General Store:Run by Mr. Kimball (absent minded similar to Alvy Moore's
    county agent Kimball in the TV series)
    TV:General Store Run by Level headed Sam Drucker (was in Petticoat Junction
    before Green Acres and appeared simutaneously in both shows)

    Radio:Small town dont think was mentioned
    TV:Hooterville (Paul Henning actually took the idea behind this radio
    series-and set it in Hooterville)

    The radio version had enough talent behind it that it could have lasted
    [removed] it had found a sponsor

    Tim Lones

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:23:09 -0400
    From: "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Link to Granby's Green Acres episodes
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    In my previous post about Granby's Green Acres I meant to include a link for
    listening to four [removed] are included in a Green Acres website with
    more info on the radio show

    [removed]

    Tim Lones

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:23:33 -0400
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Anne Francis on OTR

    Actress Anne Francis (75) is being honored in SF this Friday and there was a
    lengthy interview with her in last Sunday's paper.  Am I the only one
    unaware of her radio work as a kid?

    "Born Ann Marvak in Ossining, [removed], her career started at age 5."
    "I grew up in New York working in the radio soap opera 'When a Girl
    Marries,' " she says. "The reason I got the job: I had strep throat and
    sounded like the kid actor they were replacing. I did hundreds of radio
    shows after that, including 'Let's Pretend.' Then the Broadway stage entered
    my life."  [at age 11]

    -Irene

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:24:34 -0400
    From: "whhsa" <whhsa@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Too Short

    Dear Folks;
    Peace be with you.
    In the list of short run shows I must add, Straight Arrow! The show lasted
    only three seasons on the nationwide Mutual Network, 1949-1951. It had one
    season on the Don Lee Network, starting in 1948, before making the
    nationwide jump in 1949. The show had a most impressive list of
    actors/actress supporting the main characters which made it one of the
    better shows only leaving the air waves because NABISCO, which owned all
    rights to the show, turned its advertising dollars to that new media waiting
    in the wings, TV!. Straight Arrow received high marks in the ratings for a
    children show, as well as breaking into the top ten in the adult market.
    Manituwah,
    Bill
    PS You will be able to read all about it in BearManor Media's, soon to be
    released, definitive study of the Straight Arrow promotion. Stay tuned!

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:24:54 -0400
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Shot runs of Radio Show

    The business of entertainment hasn't changed weather it's radio or TV
    ratings count on programs living or being canceled.
    Take Mel Banc's 42 episodes 1946 -47 Mel had a sponsor, Colgate, and  a
    great cast of very good radio actors, but the show was silly and juvenile
    for prime time at 8:30 PM Tuesdays on CBS. He was up against NBC's strong
    line up of Suspense, Fibber McGee & Molly, Bob Hope & Red Skelton. I may not
    be typical radio listener,but I didn't ever listen to Mel's show. I guess
    not many did either. Mel was great talent as a  character on Jack Benny ,
    Judy Canova,or Burns & Allen and other shows.

    When Television was beginning it was slow to cover the whole country because
    coaxial cable had to be laid from coast to coast so Radio was, in some
    areas, still king.  In the 1950' s TV devastated motion pictures. Movie
    Theaters were closing and becoming banquet hall, bowling alleys or being
    torn down. People were staying home watching TV. Radio still had to fill the
    air with entertainment, with or with out sponsors. Then we hear the term
    participating sponsors, usually a nationally known product as Anacin, hair
    care products or cigarettes. Some time we hear a local sponsor on show.
    along with a national product. That is the way Radio Sprits does business
    [removed] show is pre- recorded with National Sponsors and space for the
    local station to have local sponsors.

    Someone mentioned  Stan Freberg who, in the summer of 1957, was up against
    TV's Colgate Comedy Hour, Steve Show Alan and Ed Sullivan's Toast of the
    Town. Stan had a good cast and Stan was great writer, but wild satire like
    Stan's on only good for a [removed] Berle and Henry Morgan did satire
    also, and did not last to long. Stan was always begging for a sponsors.
    Wrong time and place.

    I grew up listening to radio until TV became popular and that was the end of
    radio, except to and from work in the car. .
    My oldest son is 53 ( born in 1952) I asked him what he remembers about
    radio when he was young. He never remembers radio until the 60s and Rock &
    Roll music. Like most kids since the 50's it was TV only.

    Sorry to take up so much space by had to tell it as I remember it. My family
    and friends don't want to hear this so maybe OTR people will agree and add
    to what I have written.

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:25:14 -0400
    From: "otrbuff" <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  MacDonald's works
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    I've noted that the mention of J. Fred MacDonald's works is recurring on this
    forum so maybe it isn't too late to add a few observations.  I carried a newly
    purchased copy of "Don't Touch That Dial!" with me on a journey to Hawaii a
    number of years ago and found it so fascinating that whenever I could find a
    few moments to tear myself away from the incredible aura that is Hawaii, I
    buried my nose in MacDonald's book.  It is all that has been said here
    already:  for the OTR researcher, paradise found, in a style that is not only
    informative and compelling but also comprehensive and not difficult to absorb.
    I learned a great deal there and have quoted MacDonald in several of my own
    works.  He exhibits a great amount of skill and depth in performing his
    investigation.  Even the casual collector might enjoy it and be informed.

    Someone hinted here that MacDonald hadn't been heard from in perhaps 20 years.
    I had several exchanges with him a couple of years ago and he was healthy and
    productive then so I assume he's still active, then running a film-related
    enterprise, as I recall.  He lives in the Chicago area and has written several
    media-related books.  He's among those cited in my "Historical Dictionary of
    the American Radio Soap Opera" which includes brief biographies on a number of
    folks who wrote volumes with significant contributions to the genre.
    MacDonald covers multiple breeds, of course.

    I'm happy to add an endorsement for this particular book by J. Fred MacDonald.
    It's a classic that all serious vintage radio researchers have been familiar
    with for a long time and I consider it well above the average by almost any
    measure.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:25:25 -0400
    From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Race cars and OTR

    In #137, Karen Lerner asked

>     Someone asked me today if I could find them any
>     OTR shows about race cars.  I haven't heard any.
>     Does anybody out there have any suggestions?

    One that immediately comes to mind is an episode of Suspense.  It's
    about a race around the world during the early days of automobiles.  I'm
    at work, so I don't have the title or date.

    -chris holm

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:45:22 -0400
    From: "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dick Van Patten on Radio

    Hi Walden,

    Dick Van Patten, in addition to appearances on Duffy's Tavern and Theater
    Guild, also appeared on the classic children's program Let's Pretend.  In
    addition, he was in a comedy (based on a comic strip by Gene Byrnes) called
    Reg'lar Fellers in 1941, and was on an episode of Cavalcade of America about
    Abraham Lincoln that same year.  A bit down the line, from 1944 - 1945, he
    was in a serial Drama called Miss Hattie with Ethel Barrymore (he played one
    of her children).

    Karen Lerner
    Radio Spirits, Inc.

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:45:35 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A NEW HOUDINI MOVIE

    A new Houdini movie is underway. In it Catherine Zeta Jones plays a
    "gypsy" whom Houdini has a love interest in. Two [removed]
    1) Has anyone else heard about this?
    2) Did this actually happen or is it being scripted for the sake of
    selling tickets? To the best of my knowledge Houdini was faithful to
    Bess.

    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:45:50 -0400
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  shows that ran too long

    In contrast to the thread on shows that didn't run long enough, I'd
    like to open a discussion regarding shows that ran too long. By that I
    don't mean shows that were so awful they should never have been on the
    air. Nor do I mean your personal least favorite show. I mean shows that
    started out great, and then for some reason (personnel change, new
    writers, change of characters or storyline) it lost the magic. "Jumped
    the shark," to use contemporary slang. In other words, shows that would
    have been better off had they been cancelled at their peak, rather than
    living on for years as a mere shadow of what they had been.

    I actually can't think of any examples right now. I confess the Jack
    Benny show lost a lot after Phil Harris left (plus many of the scripts
    were recycled from earlier years); still, I certainly would never wish
    Jack had gone off the air several years earlier than he did! Similarly,
    Bob Hope's show was never quite as funny after he lost Jerry
    Colonna--but it was still pretty good.

    I remember hearing an interview with Bret Morrison in which he said the
    last few years of The Shadow were pretty bad. However, since only one
    show survives from the last five years, that's difficult to judge. I
    also gather that Captain Midnight's final season or so (if I'm
    remembering correctly) threw out a lot of the character's backstory and
    wasn't very good. Again, though, I haven't heard any of those shows.

    Anybody else have any other suggestions for shows that ran too long?

    Kermyt

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:45:56 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  STAN FREBERG

    Like Police Squad, on television, the Freberg show was way 'over the
    head' of most radio listeners -- Stan had one of the most creative minds
    in the biz, somewhat like that of Ernie Kovacs -- sadly, few 'understood'
    their comedy.

    Here is a link to a recent Freberg interview on the BBC:

    [removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:48:18 -0400
    From: "John Weber" <wjweber@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Norman Corwin Question on Jeopardy

    Norman Corwin was the subject of a question on Tuesday's edition of
    Jeopardy.

    I only caught the last bit of it.  Did anyone see exactly what the
    question was?

    -- John Weber
    [removed] <[removed];

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:48:54 -0400
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR connection
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           I noticed the listing on a recent edition of the mailing list
    regarding
    Clarabell the Clown on the old "Howdy Doody Show".  The writer mentioned
    the name Brian Gari and said there might be an OTR connection.  Ya think?
    Brian Gari, if it's the one I'm thinking of, was related to a very famous OTR
    performer, Eddie Cantor.  (I believe he is Eddie's grandson.)  I think Brian
    is involved with The Eddie Cantor Fan Club as well.

           Cantor was a very important (depending who you speak with) vaudeville
    and OTR performer.  I believe he was involved with the Ziegfeld Follies and
    appeared on not only his own radio show, but others such as "Texaco Town"
    and "The Ipana Troubadours".  Ipana was a toothpaste company who was one of
    his long time sponsors.

           Cantor had built a reputation for being very outspoken, both on the
    air
    and off the air as well, much to the chagrin of his sponsors.  Some of the
    songs
    I remember him singing were "Ida, Sweet As Apple Cider" and "Oh Suzanna,
    Dust Off That Old Piana".   My mother happened to mention that he had a
    [removed]"Old Banjo Eyes" and when he was represented in some various
    cartoons during the early twentieth century his caricatured image accentuated
    his eyes in the shape of round banjos.

           He was a very talented comedian and his radio shows were highly rated
    in
    popularity polls.

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:10:24 -0400
    From: "Dave Adams" <daveadams-hollywood@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  SPRING REVERB 2

>     Back in the days of Top 40 radio, we installed one of Damon's units.
>     Interesting reverb story re the Harmonicat's recording of Peg O' My
>     Heart.  I was recorded at the NBC studios in Chicago, using their small
>     room, made of marble.  The audio was fed into the room, 'bounced' off the
>     walls, into a mic.  The 'round-robbin' method of reverb had not been
>     discoverd yet.

    Not run wildly off topic but long after we had spring reverb available we
    often skipped it in favor of various placement schemes; usually  involving a
    second, "detereoriated"  mic recording 20 feet from the source and pointed
    at a wall of garage tools that shimmered like a distant heavenly chorus.

    Damon's unit (I'm assuming) was installed in the tops of Fender Twin Reverb
    amps, which we discovered quite by accident would take a shock to the
    cabinent as a cue to let out a horrendous crash of analog thunder. Thus was
    born rock and [removed] something like that.

    -Dave at Digital Domain
    (recently aquirred by Michael Bay, so they tell me.)

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    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:47:44 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-19 births/deaths

    May 19th births

    05-19-1870 - Wright Kramer - Somerville, MA - d. 11-14-1941
    actor: Walter Jamison "Showboat"
    05-19-1894 - Henry Busse - Magdeburg, Germany - d. 4-23-1953
    orchestra leader: "Fitch Bandwagon"; "Spotlight Bands"
    05-19-1906 - Bruce Bennett - Tacoma, WA
    actor: "Proudly We Hail"
    05-19-1919 - George Auld - Toronto, Canada - d. 1-8-1990
    bandleader: "Saturday Night Swing Session"

    May 19th deaths

    02-02-1915 - Frank Telford - d. 5-19-1987
    producer: "This Is Our Enemy"
    02-09-1891 - Ronald Colman - Richmond, Surrey, England - d. 5-19-1958
    actor: William Todhunter Hall "Halls of Ivy"; "Jack Benny Program"
    02-12-1867 - Joe E. Howard - NYC - d. 5-19-1961
    singer, composer: "Gay Nineties Revue"
    03-14-1913 - Jay Barney - Chicago, IL - d. 5-19-1985
    actor: Bugsy O'Toole "The Romance of Helen Trent"
    03-31-1915 - Henry Morgan - NYC - d. 5-19-1994
    comedian: "Here's Morgan"; "Henry Morgan Show"
    05-07-1895 - Thomas Darcy, Jr. - Vancouver, WA - d. 5-19-1968
    conducted the United States Army Band on CBS during the 1938 season
    06-14-1907 - Nappy Lamare - New Orleans, LA - d. 5-19-1988
    jazz guitarist: "The Bob Crosby Show"
    06-17-1921 - Earl Hammond - NYC - d. 5-19-2002
    actor: "Coounterspy"; "Martin Kane, Private Eye"
    07-29-1869 - Booth Tarkington - Indianapolis, IN - d. 5-19-1946
    writer: "Maude and Cousin Bill"
    08-19-1902 - Ogden Nash - Rye, NY - d. 5-19-1971
    poet: "Three Ring Time"; "Kaleidoscope"
    11-16-1916 - Daws Butler - Toledo, OH - d. 5-19-1988
    actor: "Sears Radio Theatre"; "Stan Freberg Show"; "That's Rich"
    11-21-1904 - Coleman Hawkins - St. Josephs, MO - d. 5-19-1969
    tenor sax: (Father of the tenor sax) "Saturday Night Swing Club"
    12-12-1913 - Winston Burdette - Buffalo, NY - d. 5-19-1993
    newscaster: (protege of Edward R. Murrow) "CBS World News Round Up"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Birthplace of Stacy Keach, Sr.

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