Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #81
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 2/20/2003 5:26 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 81
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      the whistler and all who played him   [ CHET <voxpop@[removed]; ]
      WB's Lone Ranger is a pilot           [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      OTR and RealOne Player                [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
      I lost an email question about KFI    [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
      Re: Jack Webb & Respect               [ SeptSev@[removed] ]
      Dragnet-1966                          [ "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@comc ]
      Re: Radio Spirits                     [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
      Re: Radio Spirits                     [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Lost Dealer?                          [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      Rocks                                 [ Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed] ]
      2-20 Birthdays                        [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:21:27 -0500
    From: CHET <voxpop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  the whistler and all who played him

    In a message dated 2/18/03 8:53:04 PM, Tom Z., one of the nameless terrors of
    which they dare not speak, writes:

>     ***I agree with your choice of Bill Forman, but you did leave off one
>     Whistler ... Bill Johnstone, who played the title role in the 1948 national
>     summer series directed by William Robson and sponsored by Household Finance.
>     I'd place Bill Johnstone second to Forman in the role, though my ex preferred
>     Johnstone's version. --ANTHONY TOLLIN***

    this is weird! i am 71 and started listening to the WHISTLER  when i was
    around 15 or 16 and the ONLY whistler i remember is bill forman! when did
    these other guys horn in? ;-)
    chet norris
    ps i lived in los angeles would that make a difference???

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:59:08 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WB's Lone Ranger is a pilot

    The January 17, 2003 issue of ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY featured a photo of the
    Lone Ranger and Tonto in the film that someone on the digest mentioned.
    According to Entertainment Weekly: Westward, no! While a hip remake of THE
    LONE RANGER will air on the WB, it's unlikely to go to series as previously
    planned.  With a projected cost of $[removed] million per episode (from $500,000
    to $1 million more than a SMALLVILLE episode), the tale of a young masked
    cowboy (DAWSON'S CREEK's Chad Murray) and his Native American sidekick
    (AMERICAN OUTLAWS' Nathaniel Arcand) proved too pricey for the net, so it'll
    air as a two-hour movie on Feb. 26 instead.  "You have to rent Western
    towns, and they are few and far between," says exec producer Susanna Daniels
    of the exorbitant costs.  "And you need a lot of horses and extras to fill
    up a Western town.  It's an enormous undertaking."  The WB may change its
    mind if the RANGER movie corrals an audience; meanwhile, NBC and TNT have
    expressed interest in creating their own take on the franchise, but no
    deal's been made.  "There's certainly a place for a sexy Western on network
    TV," says Daniels.

    Having seen the photo in the magazine, I can say that this is not going to
    be a joyride.  The pilot movie is definately aimed toward a younger audience
    as the Lone Ranger and Tonto are both played by teenagers.  As they use to
    say on 42nd Street, "sex sells," but this is road kill.   The only plus side
    I can see coming from this movie, is that it will make me, personally, enjoy
    and appreciate the original radio and TV shows even more.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:29:49 -0500
    From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR and  RealOne Player

       I, a non-techie, enjoy listening to streaming or downloaded OTR on my
    RealPlayer 7 Basic. But a few Web sites require the newer RealOne Player for
    OTR-listening (for example, Jerry H's portion of the Olde Tyme Radio
    Network).

       So I clicked on the free update 'button' on my Player and downloaded the
    RealOne Player but I cancelled the installation process because I'd read
    that to avoid having RealPlayer take over unnecessary control of many audio
    and video features on the computer I ought to, when I download
    RealOnePlayer, choose "Custom Install" and click/remove many checkmarks from
    the series of boxes that would appear before their 'Install Wizard'
    completes installation.  But when I'd downloaded and started to install, as
    I described above, no such custom-installing choice box had appeared before
    the (final?) installation started to take place.

       Can any Digester offer advice and/or instructions re custom-installing a
    free RealOnePlayer to result in the least-intrusive installation that's
    possible?  Should I first delete/un-install my current RealPlayer (-- I
    never custom-installed it, by the way) and start from scratch?  Many thanks
    in advance.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:30:05 -0500
    From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  I lost an email question about KFI

    Whoever wrote me an email Wednesday morning asking a question about the KFI
    antenna and if it was ever on the roof of their building, please send me the
    email again, if you can.  I had problems with my Outlook Express today and
    accidentally deleted and lost that particular email, and I can't even recall
    your name.

    I'm terribly sorry, but I hope you'll write me again and I'll answer your
    question.

    Thanks.

    jh

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:30:48 -0500
    From: SeptSev@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Jack Webb & Respect
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    In a message dated 2/19/03 4:37:57 PM, [removed]@[removed]
    writes:

>     I suspect they're deliberately omitting Webb's name because of the wholesale
>     cheapening of his legacy that has gone on since the Aykroyd-Hanks movie was
>     released.  Jack Webb is a joke to the under-40's that run the industry.
>     Lucky for them there WAS a Jack Webb, or none of 'em would have jobs today!

>     If I appear to be steamed, it's because I am.

    As a Professor of Television Studies, I can assure you that the under 30
    crowd who will someday run the industry are not laughing at Jack Webb.   In
    my classes, he is studied with the respect he deserves!

    Thom Bray

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:21:35 -0500
    From: "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dragnet-1966

    In Volume 2003, Issue #43 Michael Hayde issued a heads-up to list members
    that AMC would be showing "Dragnet 1966" February 19th at 9:55am.  Since I
    had never seen this particular television chapter of one my favorite OTR
    shows, I tuned in with bated breath.

    I enjoyed it a lot, but then again I enjoy pretty much anything Jack
    Webb-related.  And it was fun seeing many of the OTR greats--my Dad, for
    some odd reason, recognized the voice of Vic Perrin but couldn't place him.
    When I mentioned that Perrin was the famous "Do not attempt to adjust your
    TV set" narrator from TV's "The Outer Limits," he shouted "THAT'S where I've
    heard him from!"

    I want to thank Michael for giving everyone a heads-up on this, since I
    rarely turn on AMC anymore due to the changes that have transformed the
    once-great movie channel into some kind of modern movies pimp.  However,
    since some folks likes chocolate and some likes vanilla--I respectfully
    disagree with his assertion that "Dragnet 1966" is the best non-OTR Dragnet.
    I'm personally partial to the 1954 theatrical release myself.

    Ivan G. Shreve, Jr.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:43:20 -0500
    From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Radio Spirits

>     I checked out a couple of Radio Spirits multi-show releases from my

    local

>     library recently, and what I heard was appalling.  In many cases,
>     commercials, intros etc. had been purposefully deleted.  I noticed this

    on

>     the "Science Fiction" and "Comedy" releases.

    I assume you're referring to the Smithsonian 4 CD/4 cassette sets that
    came out several years ago.  I don't know why those were edited, but they
    don't serve as good examples of the quality of Radio Spirits material.
    Their stuff is very expensive, but I must admit, it's generally very good
    quality.  Usually, the two go hand in hand (see the 100 episode for $5
    cds on ebay for an example of the opposite end of the spectrum).

    Rodney Bowcock
    Past Tense Productions
    "Classic movies and TV for $7"

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:44:08 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Radio Spirits

>     It sounds like you borrowed some of the older RSI Smithsonian collections.
>     If you check the copyright dates, I suspect you'll discover that they're
>     circa 1994-96.  (I know the Smithsonian SCIENCE FICTION collection is of
>     that  vintage, since it included my first historical booklet for RSI.

    That does, indeed, appear to be the case now that you've mentioned it.  The
    Comedy and Science Fiction sets were all hacked up but the Jack Benny set was
    not, all of those shows appeared to be complete.  Unfortunately, the library
    copy of the "Science Fiction" set did not include your booklet, I would love
    to have seen it.  Anyway, I am glad they dropped that idea, and it's
    unfortunate my library has preserved such an ill-thought-out business
    decision.

    Someone else mentioned the possibility that these were AFRS shows, and I know
    that's not the case with the specific ones I heard.  That's because the shows
    included sponsor id's and CBS/NBC system cues do appear in these shows and I
    don't believe they would've appeared on that many AFRS shows, at least not as
    commonly.  Like I said I heard the "Suspense" "Donovan's Brain" two-parter
    before and it had the commercials, part one closing and part two opening the
    Radio Spirits version did not.

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:44:19 -0500
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lost Dealer?

    In the early 1990's (I believe) I used to buy radio
    shows from a place called MB/JB Enterprises out of
    Spenser Iowa.  Any one else remember them or where
    they ended up at???

    Thanks Lynn

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    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:45:15 -0500
    From: Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Rocks

    Martin Grams writes

>     That was the episode "SNARE FOR MURDER" and if I recall, Harry Bartell
>     injured himself on the set during filming, something about a rock on the
>     ground. The film crew cleared the ground for all rocks but when he fell,
>     he hit a rock and injured him.  Any thoughts from mr. Bartell himself?

    That is not quite what happened. I had to jump off a porch about four feet
    to the ground. Before the shot I checked the landing spot to see that I was
    apparently jumping into soft [removed] What I didn't know was that the soft
    dirt was only about two inches deep over solid rock. When I hit the ground I
    jammed my neck from the [removed], thanks for the show title, Martin. I
    had no idea what it was.

    Harry Bartell

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    Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:14:34 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  2-20 Birthdays

    The following people were born on February 20th.

    1906 - Richard Himber - Newark, New Jersey
    1909 - Barry Wood - New Haven, Connecticut
    1914 - John Charles Daly - Johannesburg, South Africa
    1914 - Nadine Conner - Compton, California
    1919 - Dick Wesson - Idaho
    1931 - Amanda Blake - Buffalo, New York

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Make your day, listen to an Olde Tyme Radio Program

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