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Date: 11/24/2002 11:01 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 452
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      determining dates of OTR              [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Old [removed]                [ EdHowell@[removed] ]
      Goodbye Chester                       [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
      Chickenman                            [ "James Faulkner" <tsunami100@[removed] ]
      Re: Parley Baer                       [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
      Parley Baer                           [ ericandsusie@[removed] ]
      OTR Database                          [ "Ron Hopkins" <idahocanuck@cableone ]
      Additional 20 For 1 Trades            [ Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed]; ]
      Parley Baer                           [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      Parley Baer's Passing                 [ "Audio Classics (tm) Archives" <c ]
      audio of JFK assassination reports    [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      Parley Baer                           [ Larry Gassman <lgsinger@[removed] ]
      Rio Volt CD-MP3 Player                [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
      Radio ventriloquist                   [ BH <radioguy@[removed]; ]
      Re: JFK Coverage                      [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
      Radio Stars With Nick Adams           [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 20:06:40 -0500
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  determining dates of OTR

    Is there a program or web site that will tell you the year if you in put the
    day/date?

    Example - August 18 was a Monday in what years?

    Joe Salerno
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:18:54 -0500
    From: EdHowell@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Old [removed]

    George Aust's story about his 41 Chevvy brught back some memories and a
    thought that a tank of gas today costs far more than my first car cost. When
    I was in high school I had a 31 Chevvy I traded a Mills juke box for. It had
    a segmented wooden steering wheel that often came apart in my hands. Besides,
    every mud hole I drove through caused water to come up through the large hole
    that was the battery compartment, That's why my sweetie wouldn't ride with me
    (she's now my wife).
    I recall the old speedometer-type "chains" used to adjust volume and tune in
    stations on our old car radios and I wonder if anyone remembers that the
    antenna was under the running board. Anyone know where one can get one of
    those old antenna assemblies? Everyone I tell about the antenna's location
    won't believe me. Most also won't believe that the Three Musketeers candy bar
    used to be three separate candy bars in one wrapper. (Or that we didn't lock
    our doors at night!)  Gee, I'm teling my age!

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:19:12 -0500
    From: AandG4jc@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Goodbye Chester

    I am sorry to hear that Parley Baer had passed away this past weekend. I
    guess that the final chapter of the radio Gunsmoke is closed. It was a great
    show with an out standing cast. I just saw an episode today of the video
    version of the show that featured Doc Adams called "The Pest Hole." One of
    the guest stars was Howard McNear, who we all know as the radio Doc Adams. I
    would love to hear the radio version of this episode.
    Allen

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:27:49 -0500
    From: "James Faulkner" <tsunami100@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Chickenman
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    Would the gentleman who made a post about obtaining some Chickenman cassettes
    please contact me offline?  I'd like to discuss this series with him, and
    more.  Thanks, JIM F

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:10:03 -0500
    From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Parley Baer

    One can't help but feel extremely sad that another incredibly talented
    man has left us.  I never had the chance to meet Mr. Baer, but I know
    people who have.  They all say the same things:  that he was very kind
    and pleasant.

    It really, really makes me sad to see so many great, talented people from
    our past departing us so quickly.  Like so many of you, I grew up
    listening to these voices, and knowing that they don't exist anymore is
    really troubling.

    My sincerest condolences to any friends and family of Mr. Baer on this
    list.

    Rodney Bowcock

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:45:59 -0500
    From: ericandsusie@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Parley Baer

    Hi all,
    I would like to express my sadness at learning of the passing of Parley
    Baer. I have been a fan of Gunsmoke for many years and I feel that
    Chester was the glue that held the show together. Parley gave the
    character a realism that Dennis Weaver was never able to [removed] was
    also an excellent character actor. He will be truly missed. I am sorry I
    was never able to meet him, although I feel that I know him from all his
    work in radio.
    God bless you all,
    Eric Hardy

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:46:26 -0500
    From: "Ron Hopkins" <idahocanuck@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR Database
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    I am new at collecting OTR programs. I just found a program called Otter on
    the internet at this URL.

    [removed]

    Otter is an OTR (old time radio) utility for Windows that can help you
    organize, maintain, and enjoy your collection of MP3 radio programs.  With a
    database of over 400 series and 60,000 programs.

    I just thought it may of use to OTR collectors.

    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:46:41 -0500
    From: Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Additional 20 For 1 Trades

    I've decided to continue offering 20 for 1; 10 for 1; and 2 for 1 trades
    for selected OTR programs.  I'm currently featuring 'enhanced trades' for
    Screen Director's Playhouse; Molle Mystery Theater; My Favorite Husband;
    Best Plays; The Life of Riley; Father Knows Best; The Adventures of Ozzie
    and Harriet; Adventures in Research; The Whister; Suspense; Lux Radio
    Theater; Radio Reader Digest; Nick Carter, Master Detective; and Bill
    Stern's Sports Newsreel.

    My website, [removed], has links to lists of
    the episodes I have and the episodes I need for the programs above, as
    well as links to more than 41,000 additional episodes.

    Please stop in and browse through my collection anytime.

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    Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 23:24:03 -0500
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Parley Baer

    I was very saddened to read Charlie's post about the passing of Parley Baer.

    I remember the first time I ever met him. It was August 14, 1982 at a
    SPERDVAC meeting. He was to be a part of a panel of legendary radio actors:
    Virginia Gregg, Peggy Webber, Harry Bartell, Vic Perrin and John Dehner! I
    arrived early and so had Parley. He was sitting in a chair, off by himself,
    probably not wanting to be bothered, I thought.

    I wanted to meet him. Not knowing what to expect, I finally gathered up my
    courage. After all, this was THE CHESTER PROUDFOOT I grew up listening to
    all those years!  I shyly approached him and meekly mumbled, "Mr. Baer,
    would you mind if I asked you for your autograph?" He immediately responded,
    "I'd mind if you DIDN'T!" Within less than 30 seconds I felt as if I had
    known him all my life and we were the best of friends.

    I'm sure this scenario was played out wherever he went. To meet Parley was
    an instant love affair. I've never met anyone who had an unkind word to say
    about him.

    Over the years we met many times, at conventions, luncheons, plays,
    weddings, funerals, etc. Always there was the big Baer hug waiting for me.
    And for his many other fans. He was as kind as he was talented. And boy,
    could he tell stories!

    Those of us who attended the Friday evening dinner at the SPERDVAC
    convention just three weeks ago were honored by his presence. He could no
    longer talk but he had ways of expressing his love for his friends and fans.
    And when he was introduced, he received a long, standing ovation.

    Bravo, Parley!

    Barbara

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:56:07 -0500
    From: "Audio Classics (tm) Archives"
     <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Parley Baer's Passing
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    Hi Folks,

         This is one of those very rare posting that I'm making to the digest, and
    this one is sad indeed.  I spoke this evening with Parley's daughter, Kim, and
    she confirmed that Parley died last night at 10:45 [removed] of congestive heart
    failure following a stroke on the 11th.  I knew Parley for many years both at
    conventions and on a personal level.  He was a true first class gentleman in
    every sense and definition of the word.  Totally unpretentious and willing to
    help in any way he could.
         Many years ago at The Friends Of Old Time Radio at Newark, NJ, one of the
    guest was to be Frank Nelson who had to cancel at the last minute.  Parley,
    who had never been to these conventions, came in Frank's place not knowing
    what to expect.  He arrived at the hotel on Friday evening and when he walked
    into the main room where the Friday nights activities were in progress, Jay
    Hickerson interrupted quickly by playing the theme music from Gunsmoke.
    Everyone in the room stood and applauded him.  He was stunned and overwhelmed
    with the love and respect of the convention attendees.
         In 1990, Parley attended for the first time, the fourth Old Time Radio &
    Nostalgia Convention in Cincinnati, OH.  He returned many times after that and
    was one of the princple reasons for the success and growth of that annual
    convention.  He was a delight to watch and listen to when he played Albert to
    Peg Lynch's Ethel & Albert.  I talked with Peg Lynch this evening, and she
    confirmed as she had in the past, that Parley was one of the most comfortable
    actors she ever worked with.
         In 1996 I asked Parley if he would mind if I presented an annual award,
    in his name, to those individuals who "In recognition of (his/her) continuing
    exemplary efforts in supporting the preservation and enjoyment of radio
    history."  His comment to me was that he could think of many other names that
    should be considered with an award like that before his name should come to
    mind.
         Parley personally presented the first award in 1997 to Bob Burchett at
    the 11th Cincinnati convention.  Health issues prevented Parley from attending
    additional conventions after that.  But, Parley and I conferred each year as
    to who would be the precipitant for that year.  The award will continue, but
    sadly without Parley's yearly inputs.  I am troubled with his passing, it is a
    great loss to us all.
         I will end with one happy memory of Parley, one of many that I cherish.
    A few years ago in Cincinnati, Parley asked what time it was to Bob Burchett
    since he had a rehearsal to attend.  Bob said that he didn't know since he
    wasn't wearing a watch.  Later that day Bob asked Parley to autograph a photo
    of himself.  He signed it "To Bob, who won't give you the time of day.
    Parley."

    Terry Salomonson
    Audio Classics Archive
    Broadcast Audio Restoration, Preservation and Archives
    [removed]
    [removed]@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:59:35 -0500
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  audio of JFK assassination reports

    You can hear some interesting audio at:

    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:24:06 -0500
    From: Larry Gassman <lgsinger@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Parley Baer

    Hello,
    I was saddened but not surprised to hear early this afternoon that Parley
    had left us.  Later in the evening I spoke with Herb Ellis and shortly
    after the stroke and heart attack, Herb had planned to go and see
    him.  Both John and i had talked to Herb about planning a dinner with both
    Larry Dobkin and Parley, and now  those plans are at an end.
    John and I first met Parley during a phone call in early 1982 when we were
    working on a SPERDVAC meeting which would feature the CBS stars of the
    50's.  We had invited Parley Baer, Harry Bartell, Virginia Gregg, Vic
    Perrin, John Dehner, and Peggy Webber.  We had also invited Barney Phillips
    but he was in the hospital at the time and could not be with us.  He died 2
    days after the meeting which was held in August of 1982.
    It was a very lively afternoon and one which we will not forget.
    Over the years, we received cards and calls from Parley and Ernie, in fact
    they would often call just to say hello.  Later we would bump in to both of
    them at local events around town as well as at other OTR conventions around
    the country.
    He would often stop whatever he was doing to speak about an item we were
    researching for the radio show.  He never turned us down and seemed to
    enjoy our phone visits.
    Parley was a lovable, caring man who never had a bad word to say about
    anyone.  He was beloved in radio and Television circles.  He was one of the
    brightest and most well read man I've ever met.  If you've ever been in a
    room with him for any length of time, you will remember what a genuinely
    nice  man he was.  He was one of the best story tellers I've ever met. He
    will be greatly missed.
    Perhaps his death was a blessing.  Over the last few years, he suffered
    from several strokes and heart attacks.  His initial stroke left him for
    the most part with out speech.  During this final period, he lost his wife
    Ernie of many hears.
    I will always remember Parley as a consummate professional, and as a good
    friend.

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:24:15 -0500
    From: Shenbarger@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Rio Volt CD-MP3 Player

    A few weeks ago someone asked about changing the timeout interval in pause to
    prevent the Rio Volt shutting off to quickly for his purposes. I have just
    learned how to change mine. All models may not have the same features. If
    that person still wants to know how to change it, he can write to me
    privately.

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:24:35 -0500
    From: BH <radioguy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio ventriloquist

    Marklambert@[removed] commented:

>     I e-mailed them today and asked if they'd ever heard of Edgar Bergen
>     and Charlie McCarthy.

    I would seriously doubt that the 30 something ad agency writer
    has.

    Bill H.

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:25:04 -0500
    From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
    To: otr message <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: JFK Coverage

    This posting has bounced twice in the past three days because of some
    problems with my ISP.  Let's see if the third time is the charm.

    With all of the recent postings about the TV coverage of the JFK
    assassination, it is almost like reading the Kine-D!  But it is on-topic
    when you realize that so much of what has been mentioned here concerns
    TV covering what on that first afternoon was basically a radio event.
    Once the cameras warmed up and the networks could show more than just
    the BULLETIN slide, what we ended up seeing were radio correspondents at
    work--only they are trying to hide the chaos that was going on in the
    rest of the studio.  Perhaps radio was able to do the job better during
    those early hours because they didn't have that additional worry about
    how they looked on camera.

    I do recall that while surfing thru the three networks that afternoon it
    was ABC which had video of reporters and events in Dallas much earlier
    than the other two because they had access to WFAA-TV which had their
    main studios in Dallas, while the other two nets' affiliates were more
    based in Ft. Worth.  But it still was mostly radio with one film clip.
    But once the President's plane arrived in DC the story became a
    television event with plenty to show in DC and only occasional cutaways
    to Dallas.

    I also turned immediately to TV when I heard about it when returning to
    school from a drivers ed trip.  But that was because I was located in
    the Audio-Visual room in the school with the only two TVs in the
    building.  For some reason nobody thought to turn on the radio that was
    part of the school's [removed] system.  I remember feeling out of touch for
    the half hour while walking home from school because (naturally) I had
    not brought a portable radio to school.  But then it was back to TV as
    soon as I got home.

    But I do have two recollections of radio that weekend.  I was a devoted
    fan of Eddie Startz's long running "Happy Station Programme" on Radio
    Nederland, and never missed at least the North American repeat unless
    reception conditions were impossible.   I probably was able to hear
    several feeds of the program, and this was the first time I remembered
    him being subdued.  Although he always did the first feeds of the three
    versions live early in the morning, he rarely made reference to news
    events except in passing.  But this had to be different, and I recall he
    played relatively slow and bland music and talked a little about the
    Dutch and European reactions.  I wish I had recorded it, because Radio
    Nederland doesn't have it.  I've checked.

    Earlier that day I went to Sunday school and listened to radio while
    driving.  When driving home the radio coverage seemed chaotic.
    Something had happened but I couldn't quite get a handle on what they
    were talking about.  WHO had been shot??  Somebody else???  It took a
    while, but finally I figured out that Lee Harvey Oswald had been shot
    about ten minutes before I got into the car.  You see, there's a problem
    of how much can a broadcaster repeat the obvious.  Yes there are new
    people tuning in all the time, but it annoys people to hear the same
    headline being repeated over and over for those who were just tuning in.

    Same thing happened to me a few years ago.  I had been out eating lunch
    when the [removed] Simpson verdict had come in, and when I got in my car ten
    minutes after the verdict I couldn't figure out from the news reports
    and the interviews whether he had been found guilty or not.  At least TV
    can leave a superimposed headline at the bottom of the screen and
    continue with the ongoing story.

    I channel surfed most of the weekend, but probably watched NBC more than
    the other two because I saw both times they aired "That Was The Week
    That Was" from the BBC.  I agree with the comments that had been made
    about the reporters, especially the negative comments about Frank McGee
    being testy and unprepared.  In later years I came to realize how
    shallow NBC coverage of almost anything was in comparison with CBS.  I
    especially noted it during the Apollo 11 coverage.  When a question came
    up, Walter Cronkite would give the answer on CBS, while meanwhile over
    on NBC Frank McGee said he would look thru the fact-book for the info
    while Huntley talked to Brinkley about nothing and Brinkley talked to
    Huntley about nothing.  They kept talking so you thought they were
    saying something--but they weren't.  And McGee never would come up with
    the answer.

    But remember, he was ill.  He was fighting cancer for a long time.  As
    was Frank Reynolds in later years.  And that was probably part of the
    reason for the meltdown that Elizabeth mentioned during the Regan
    shooting.  I remember a similar outburst from him during the coverage of
    the Sedat assassination.  It is the frustration of having to sit there
    and read stuff that is handed you without you being able to find out for
    yourself from multiple sources what is happening.  He probably realized
    that the VIEWERS were probably better informed than him because they
    could watch ALL the networks and he had to just sit there.

    A very good example of how isolated the anchor is happened during the
    earthquake that happened at the start of the Oakland World Series game
    about ten years ago.  Ted Koppel was seemingly confused when reports
    kept coming in about cars being crushed on a freeway that was being
    shown.  He had been doing the coverage for over three hours when it
    finally dawned on him.  "Do you mean that this road was a DOUBLE-DECKER
    freeway?" he asked a correspondent.  It just looked like a regular
    elevated roadway, but all of the viewers who were watching reports on
    all of the stations already had found this out--but Ted was stuck in
    that chair.

    Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:27:10 -0500
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Stars With Nick Adams

    Doing some OTR research recently, I stumbled on an internet site that
    lists nearly all of the  cast credits for Nick Adams' TV show, "The
    Rebel", in which he played Johnny Yuma, a former Confederate soldier,
    wandering the West. The series ran two seasons (1959 to 1961) on ABC and
    then for the summer of 1962 on NBC.

    I was delighted to find many OTR actors listed in the episode credits,
    including Tyler McVey, Agnes Morehead, Olan Soule, Ben Wright, Natalie
    Masters, Vic Perrin, Tex Ritter, Jeanette Nolan, John Dehner, and Arthur
    Peterson.

    This episode guide is archived at [removed]

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL
    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:00:31 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

>     >From Those Were The Days --

    Birthday:

    1913 - Howard Duff (Sam Spade), died July 8, 1990

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
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