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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 468

Table Of Contents: 

	 "LIVE" network radio
	 WHO, and who?
	 Starr of Space
	 Golden Age Of Radio Theater
	 Retail Outlets In SF
	 Dragnet shows
	 Projector Recorder Belts
	 Dragnet
	 Re: Sheldon Leonard

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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 22:08:14 -0500
From: BCH66@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "LIVE" network radio
Message-ID: <961202220812_706985633@[removed]>

In the beginning there really was no choice . Recordings were truly far
inferior and a prestige network program simply had to be live. 
Smaller stations ran a daily staple of records and recorded material. The big
networks certainly wanted to be distinguished from any such [removed]
they had to do if they wanted to attract 
large stations to the network. 
It was a rather uncomplicated affair in the beginning as stations across the
country began hooking up to NY for this live entertainment. Soon the networks
were even on the Pacific Coast.
But due to the time difference this live programming       (transcontinental)
was on a 5-8 pm schedule out west. It was the duty of NBCs Pacific Coast
networks to program for the west coast the remainder of the evening.
However, In 1929 the NBC series AMOS 'n ANDY became a smash hit. The station
of origin WMAQ had been airing the series every night at 10pm where it was
very popular. NBC put the show on the entire network which was in its present
spot 11pm Eastern Time. The NEW YORK NBC brass decided that the program would
be more appropriate at 7pm Eastern Time. ( due to the fact that most of the
audience is back East ,as well as the ad agencies, and network personnel all
programming is always scheduled for its most appropriate air time based on
eastern time . Even if out west 
the show came on in the late afternoon ) .
But AMOS n' ANDY were hugely popular and the standard procedure for network
feeds was about to be revolutionized. 
Amos n' Andy would do two shows. One at 7pm  for the Eastern seaboard . And
again at 10pm for chicago and the west . This would keep the time for A& A(in
chicago)  the same as before the 
network time change. And also a reasonable 8pm time out west.
Soon many a sponsor  adopted this policy for his show when 
he felt that by just using one broadcast his show aired in the west 
too early. 
Now this brings us back to the must be live policy of the radio networks. 
You see everything WAS live. It was ordered to be so . It has been supposed
that one of the reasons the networks maintained the must be live policy so
long was the fact that  they did not want to lose control of their stations
time to syndicators. Many program suppliers shipped off  to local stations
large selections of recorded music and even recorded shows that were similar
to those LIVE shows over on NBC and CBS.
the networks felt that if recorded programming was ever dignified local
stations would begin programming more of each day with selections from MANY
program suppliers and less of the stations time would be available for the
network. And ultimatey the network 
would go the way of the dinasaur.
While the networks did not allow recordings the local staions themselves did
use them . If you ever listen to the WJSV complete day of 1939 you will hear
recorded music programs and recorded commercial spots. As well as the station
recording a LIVE network show for later playback . 
It has been said that the networks first started allowing recordings in the
form of recording East Coast performances for a later recorded playback 

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Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 23:03:38 -0600
From: Cockrum <bcockrum@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WHO, and who?
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To Robert M. Bratcher-- I know I must be the umpteenth in line to
correct you (or Glen Hauser) ... that's WHO in Des Moines, IOWA. If you
hadn't said you took the information direct from a radio broadcast I'd
swear you fell victim to the Postal Service's confusing state symbols
--IA for Iowa, which naturally could be misinterpreted Indiana ... the
same way MN has been called Montana or Michigan or Maine instead of
Minnesota. Only if folks would stick to the standard press
abbreviations.
-0-
To Andy Blatt -- That wasn't Sheldon Leonard playing the taxi driver in 
"It's a Wonderful Life" -- but Frank Faylen, [removed] [removed]
played the father in TV's "Dobie Gillis." 

Bob Cockrum

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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:49:20 -0500 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Starr of Space
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> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 19:28:40 -0500
> From: Dennis Jackson <dj@[removed]>
> To: otr@[removed]
> Subject: Captain Starr of Space
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> Does anyone else recall hearing this sci-fi drama series in the early 
> 50s?   I've never seen or heard it since.   It was a little like Star 
> Trek for radio, but without quite such philsophical depth.   
> Dennis Jackson DJ@[removed]
 
I never heard it in the early 50s, but I did get hold of an episode in the
early 70s, when I began collecting otr.  I thought it was better than the
radio version of Tom Corbett, but not as good as Space Patrol.  Haven't
listened to it in years. 

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 11:51:18 -0600
From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <bratcher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Golden Age Of Radio Theater
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Got the following from Glen Hauser's World Of Radio.
A weekly shortwave monitoring program he puts out.
Good tips on ststions heard and other information about shortwave and AM
broadcast band listening. This is direct word for word from the broadcast.
That tape recorder of mine really comes in handy!

"Richard McCarthey in Alabama notes that WHO 1040 is carrying The Golden
Age Of Radio Theater weeknights at 10pm eastern, 0300UTC"

I'll have to listen to this myself sometime! WHO is a clear channel 50kw AM
station in Demoines Indiana. Heard all over the US at night (perhaps Canada
too?) it comes in good in Houston Tx. If you don't have a station on 1040
near you or 1030/1050 (either side) you should be able to pick this radio
station up after dark.

Anybody know of other AM stations, frequencies & times at night when this
show can be heard? May help if someone can't get WHO because of other stations.

Robert M. Bratcher Jr.
E-mail to:
bratcher@[removed]
Record collector, 8mm, super 8, 16 and 35mm Film collector.
I like old radio's too.
Collins, Hallicrafters, National & Hammurland are my Favorites!

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Date: 03 Dec 96 01:02:06 EST
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Retail Outlets In SF
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Suggestion for OTR on CD's In San Francisco
OTR on CD is available through a shop in nearby San Bruno.  Mr. Roger Hill, the
founder of North American Radio Archives has a great multimedia shop in nearby
San Bruno.  Make sure you have some extra time to spend with him.  He has a
research library for your use with many OTR related books and magazines.  He and
his wife are always willing to discuss, recommend and help anyone with questions
on vintage radio, movies, tv.  The store is  called Nothing's New and is located
at #23 Bayhill Shopping Center, San Bruno, CA 94066.  Closed on Sundays if I
remember correctly.  Tel (415) 871-6063 and fax of (415) 871-6062. 

They have the equipment to handle custom dubbing and labeling of anything from
and to reels, CD's, lp's and cassettes.  You can buy and rent all types of
vintage radio shows from his huge library.  Give them a try.   Any OTR fan from
starter to expert will find his shop crammed full of treasures.  

That's 30 for tonight,
NGC
Norman Cox   

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Date: 03 Dec 1996 03:41:43 GMT
From: kg@[removed] (KEN GREENWALD)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dragnet shows
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

For John Cunningham:
Who asked me in the OTR Digest if I knew the names of the Dragnet shows that
had the special sound effects done by Jack Webb --- and if they are
available. Well, for one, I heard those shows a long time ago. As a matter of
fact, there were over 100 Dragnet shows on ETs in the archives for a while.
It was then I heard the shows I spoke of, and that was over 12 years ago.
Those ETs were returned to the LA Police Dept., which originally owned them
(they got them from Webb, himself). So, unfortunately, I don't know what
episodes I spoke of in an earlier posting, nor do I remember thd dates of the
show. Though I am not sure if those particular shows are in circulation, I
would assume they are because most of the Dragnet shows are in circulation.
They have been put into circulation from various sources. I, for one, am not
a fan of Dragnet and don't even have one of the shows in my tape library. 
Sorry if the answer isn't one you were hoping for. 
On another note: Herb Ellis often worked the Dragnet show, playing various
characters Webb assigned him. At the last SPERDVAC Radio Convention in
November, Herb repeated the funny bit (once presented on the Johnny Carson
show) about the stolen church clapper bells. Art Gilmore played the innocent
victim. It was marvelous to watch. 
I've known Herb since the 60's when I was doing standup comedy and acting.
Herb is probably one of the most helpful radio actors around, offering his
services when needed and always suggesting better ways to put on
re-creations. Though Herb is really an actor, it is surprising how many
people in radio have changed hats and assumed other roles. I asked Herb about
this and he said "When you work in a profession long enough, you're bound to
pick up how others do the work." Good man!
A joyous season to all. Later.

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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:50:37 GMT
From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Projector Recorder Belts
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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The phone number that I have is 1 800 558 9572
>>>> Host for Radio Drama e-mail group  <<<<<
>>>>           Henry Howard             <<<<< 
>>>> [removed] <<<<<

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Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 09:32:14 -0500 (EST)
From: JROZGONYI <JROZGONYI@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dragnet
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Upon returning from a lengthy Thanksgiving break, I had a slew of
Digest waiting for me in my e-mail box, and therefore got to read
all of the Jack Webb discussion over the course of a day and a half.
It was particularly interesting to me because during part of my
car trip back to visit family, I listened to my first-ever radio
Dragnet.  While I have no intention of adding *anything* to the
politics/free speech aspect of the Webb discussion, I do have a 
few comments about the show I listened to.

First, having seen (and laughed at) many Dragnet TV shows (mostly
the later, color ones from the late '60s/early '70s), I was 
surprised at how different the same basic format sounded on a radio
show.  For one thing, the stilted dialogue didn't sound as silly
(and perhaps it was only because this was a better show, but I 
don't think so).  Radio is inherently different from TV, of course,
but the rapid-fire dialogue worked much better when you didn't have
to see the stone-faced Webb standing there delivering it, or look
at the the simple back and forth cutting that tend to make the TV
show look so static.  The simple, cut-off sentences gave more of an
impression of speed and no-nonsense cops on radio than on TV.  Also,
the convention of speaking the time and place ("3:15 pm.  City morgue")
was much more natural on radio, where you need some way to distinguish
time and place changes in words, rather than on TV where it can seem
superfluous (it's *obvious* they're in a different place, or back 
at the office, or whatever).  On radio, it really did make it sound
more like a cop's detailed report, and less like a stilted convention.

My other comments involve the particular episode I listened to (the
date of which I don't have in front of me).  It was about a group of
"baddies" importing marijuana from Mexico and pushing it on high
school kids, turning them into junkies who run their cars off the
road and kill themselves.  It was kind of interesting for a couple
of reasons: (1) it seemed to foreshadow the Dragnet anti-drug shows of
the '60s/'70s; (2) it seemed odd to me that someone who had been 
around (or at least had an interest in) jazz music, as I assume
Webb must have from his experience on the Pete Kelly's Blues radio
show, would have had taken such an approach to marijuana -- jazz
musicians had been using it regularly since the '20s (Louis Armstrong
smoked it every day of his life and was arrested for it in the '20s)
and apparently thought of it as part of everyday jazz life; and (3)
most ironically (but only to us today, probably), this whole anti-
marijuana show was sponsored by a cigarette manufacturer, so Jack had
to take time out from warning about the evils of smoking pot to tell
you how much he enjoyed smoking whatever brand of cigarette it was.
That gave me a real laugh.

Jay Rozgonyi
JROZGONYI@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 09:34:26 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Sheldon Leonard
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>
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>Sheldon Leonard starred in a one-shot audition program called "Mulligan's
>Travels" (6/8/49) as "Milton Mulligan, taxi driver, ex-GI, scholar and
>solid guy".  He was also the taxi driver in "It's a Wonderful Life" (film)
>ans well as a producer (along with Danny Thomas of "Make Room for Daddy",
>"Andy Griffith" and "Gomer Pyle"...Also, he played the title role in the
>1960's cartoon "Linus the Lionhearted".

This thread has persisted for some time now but I thought I'd point out
that the way some people are talking (though this is not directed at
Mr. Blatt's posting above, BTW), I get the impression that they think
Mr. Leonard died some time ago. He's alive and well at last report.
Just wanted to be sure we didn't turn this subject discussion into an
obituary [removed]

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282



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