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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 446


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Old Time NBC Radio Web Site (fwd)
	 South African, Australian OTR
	 Lou's Essential OTR On WWW
	 This has nothing to do with anything, [removed]
	 Jack Benny movie/tv
	 ADMINISTRIVIA: Nostalgic TV
	 Lone Ranger Addendum
	 The Lone Ranger
	 RE: cant find logs
	 Frank Race log
	 breakfast club
	 Sherlock Holmes on tape from Simon & Schuster
	 Criticism of Radio
	 Re: NY Museum, [removed] Digest V95 #445

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 01:51:07 -0600 (CST)
From: William Pfeiffer <rrb@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed] (Old Time Radio)
Subject: Old Time NBC Radio Web Site (fwd)
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Forwarded, from the [removed] [removed]

>From: Joe Tymecki <vtetv@[removed]>
Newsgroups: [removed]
Subject: Old Time NBC Radio Web Site
Date: 12 Dec 1995 02:27:38 GMT
Organization: vtetv

If you are interested in old time radio broadcasting this is a great web 
site I found out about in [removed]+phono.  I do not 
remember seeing this mentioned here before.  It it a virtual tour of the 
old NBC radio studios in Chicago.

[removed]~[removed]

Enjoy and Happy Holidays
Joe
best email: jtymecki@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 23:14:20 EST
From: charlie@[removed] (Charles Sloden)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: South African, Australian OTR
Message-ID: <LyaZFD1w165w@[removed]>

I believe that anyone interested in British OTR can find a source of 
information in ORCA, but does anyone know of any source of information 
about OTR from Australia or South Africa?

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 23:23:24 EST
From: charlie@[removed] (Charles Sloden)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lou's Essential OTR On WWW
Message-ID: <PDBZFD6w165w@[removed]>

I would like to see this page, but have e-mail access to the internet 
only.  I realize this is "work in process" but how about a sample for the 
technically challenged?

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:45:45 -0500 (EST)
From: JACKBENNY@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: This has nothing to do with anything, [removed]
Message-id: <01HYPEVSCD4O9D6MBA@[removed]>

This is very off the subject, but thought you might get a laugh out of it.

Back when I was in charm school (although no one who knows me today would 
believe I [removed] I'm not charming), we had a final session entitled
"The Crowning Touch:  The Arts" (or words to that effect).  In this session,
the teacher attempted to educate all the airheaded, clueless, ditzy gals in
the class about fine art and music (well, I don't believe I was any of the 
above, but I could be wrong).  She said we would play a game, where she'd
give us clues to a famous artist.  She started the first one by giving a 
birth date and place.  Everyone looked blankly at each other.  She then held
up a book with sketches of a primitive helicopter, tank, etc.  My hand shot
up, and everyone gaped at me that I could possibly know it.

The teacher dramatically waggled her finger at me, and (her exact words stick
with me to this day) said, "Oh *NO*...I *know* YOUR TYPE.  *YOU* can't play
our little game!"  I was instructed to sit back and let everyone else have
their chance.  After numerous clues and no guesses, she finally said in 
desperation, "The painter of the Mona Lisa!!"  I think after many guesses of
random famous artists, someone finally got Leonardo daVinci.

I know this crowd won't have nearly as much trouble with the Jack Benny-related
trivia, but the  "no Laura Lee allowed" comments just took me back to the
above. No, [removed]'m not complaining.  I guess I still have this "know it all"
reputation.                   

(INFO8))
--Laura Lee

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 05:37:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: WMACKEY@[removed]
To: otr <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Jack Benny movie/tv
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Sunday morning AMC ran "Man About Town", 1939, where Jack is the 
playboy producer of a small troupe of Americans in London.  While a JB
fan, the film, IMO, was not one of his better one's.

Included in the film were Rochester, basically playing his character, but 
also allowed some novelty dance numbers, which were very good.  Too bad 
this couldn't be used in other films.  Of course it didn't fit his 
"character" to have a novelty dancing valet/butler.

Also in the cast was Phil Harris as the band manager.  Didn't see any 
"Remley" in the band.  :)

Love interest were two little known actresses: Dorothy Lamour and Betty 
Grable.  Hmm, wonder if they made any more films?  (Just kidding).

As for Jack's tv show being re-run, I wonder if this might not have 
something to do with syndication rights, perhaps the cost of the show, etc.
As for his show being in colour.  CBS had few shows in colour at the 
time, unless a special.  Colour was rare until about 1967, and then a big 
deal of made of the being being "in colour" at the beginning.  Now his 
later specials were in colour, since by then that was standard fare.
 
Also his shows were filmed rather than taped.  Early videotape didn't do 
colour very well, if at all.  I remember seeing a re-run of a Howdy Dowdy 
show that was orginally in colour but on tape it was b/w.

Well, so much for movies and tv.  I'll try to stay on topic more next time.
Joe (back to lurk mode) Mackey

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 05:34:10 -0600
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: ADMINISTRIVIA: Nostalgic TV
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Reminder to folks who want to discuss TV in an old time RADIO newsletter:

                              -------------

Q25. Your Digest and WWW pages only deal with Old Time Radio.  Where
    can I get similar information about early TV?

A25. The OTR Digest and OTR WWW Pages are purposely self-constrained
    to OTR topics.  Folks interested in early TV shows might be
    interested in this note from Kathy O'Connell
    (oconnell@[removed]):

        Let me announce a brand new TV list!!!  A woman
        named Linda has just started a list devoted to
        50's-60's Television. You can contact her at
        LEEKNIGHTS@[removed]  I signed on immediately, and
        it's a wonderful place to meet other people
        interested in this subject.  Very much like the OTR
        list, but for television!!!

                              --------------
This is only one of the many gems in the OTR FAQ.  I highly suggest reading it!

Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:27:59 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger Addendum
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In my last message I forgot to mention that Fran Striker's son, Fran Striker,
Jr. has written a biography of his father. Unfortunately I've lost the
address. So perhaps another Ranger fan out there can supply it. I think it
only costs ten dollars, but I'm not even sure of that.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:06:40 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Since Randy Minnehan [removed]

The best source for information regarding The Lone Ranger is David Rothel's
1976 book, "Who Was That Masked Man". Rothel interviewed a number of WXYZ
personnel for his book. Another book is "The Story of the Lone Ranger" by
James Van Hise. This latter book deals more with the Ranger's film and TV
incarnations.

Also it should be said that Fran Striker did NOT create the Lone Ranger.
All the basic premises of the show were thought out and decided at WXYZ
before Striker ever wrote a script. Striker evidently had much to do with
fleshing out the Legend of the Lone Ranger though.

How the show came to be and who thought of what are things that are lost in
the mists of time now. There's the George W. Trendle version and the Jim
Jewell version and various anecdotal stories told by others who were there
at the time. Just about all of them are dead now. We will never know for
sure. We can but enjoy the legacy they have left us.

Just to set another record straight. Years before Tonto came upon the
tragedy at Bryant's Gap, his own life was saved by none other than the boy
who would grow up to be The Lone Ranger. I think turn-about is fair play.
And there are worse things to do with one's life than devoting to the
cause of justice for all.


And always remember kiddies; The Lone Ranger IS old time radio.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:46:01 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: cant find logs
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,
 
George Coppen wrote:
 
>     Am I not looking in the right place or a I just not looking at 
> the right pages but I havent been able to find any logs on Gunsmoke,
> Sherlock Holmes or Lux Radio Theatre? If you could help it would be
> very much appreciated.
 
Try Jay Hickerson. I have his Holmes log. I don't have his list here but
I'm sure he has Gunsmoke and Lux as well. He has an e-mail address (I also
don't have that handy) but his mail address is:
 
   Jay Hickerson, Box 4321, Hamden, Ct 06514
 
There's a couple of others who have various logs available. Check Lou's
OTR site.
 
I _started_ a Lux log and have put a lot of time working on it and it's 
_still_ a long way from completion.  Lux, Gunsmoke and Sherlock Holmes were
long-running shows and it takes a lot of time gathering all the info for them,
not to mention how big a log for them would be.  Keep in mind, my logs are 
really only show lists.  Jay's Sherlock Holmes log has a lot of good info in 
it.
                            
Frank
 

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 10:24:49 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Frank Race log
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

            T H E   A D V E N T U R E S   O F   F R A N K   R A C E
            -----   -------------------   ---   ---------   -------
 
                                  1949 - 1952?
 
 
     First Show: 06-05-51                            Last Show: ??-??-??
     Number Shows: 43                            Audition Show: none known
 
 
     Show Description:
 
     THE ADVENTURES OF FRANK RACE, a syndicated series, was first heard 
     in May of 1949.  The main character, Frank Race, was an attorney 
     before World War II.  As a result of his activities in the war, when 
     it was over, he traded his law books for a career with the OSS.  There, 
     "Adventure" became his business.  
 
     Tom Collins played the role of Frank Race initially, immediately 
     following his stint as Chandu, The Magician.  The lead role was taken 
     over later by Paul Dubof after program number 22.
 
 
     List Comments:
 
     Most (all?) titles started with "The Adventure Of ..." (except for
     #3, #5, and #8).  To save some space, this is left out in the list,
     except for secondary titles.
 
     Ed Carr commented in his catalog that the dates may be off. Those dates
     that I could not match against another catalog listing have a "?" after
     the date.
 
     SPERDVAC's catalog had one title, "Victory Ship Adventure", listed
     without a date.  I've matched this one with the first episode because
     the other 2 titles had "victory" and "ship" in them and I recall old
     "Victory ships" were mouth-balled in the Hudson River, close to the
     real Hackensack River. 
 
 
     List:
 
         Date      Day  Num  Title                                 Src Key
         --------  ---  ---  ------------------------------------  ---------
         06-05-51  Tue    1  The Hackensack Victory                12  5
                             Victory Ship Adventure                  3  
                             Missing Ships                            4
         06-11-51  Tue    2  The Darling Debutante                 12  5
                             Debutant Adventure                      3
                             Murder of Bob Kennedy's Wife             4
         06-15-51? Fri    3  The Istanbul Adventure                12345
         06-25-51? Mon    4  Senevteen Black                       12345
         07-02-51  Mon    5  The Enoch Arden Adventure             12345
         07-09-51  Mon    6  The Vanishing President               12 45
                             Case of the Vanishing President         3
         07-16-51  Mon    7  The Baradian Letters                  12 45
         07-23-51? Mon    8  The Airborne Adventure                12 45
         07-30-51  Mon    9  The Shanghai Incident                 12 45
         08-06-51  Mon   10  The Juvinile Passenger                12 45
         08-13-51  Mon   11  The Reckless Daughter                 12 45
         08-20-51  Mon   12  The Silent Heart                      12 45
                         13  Careless Bartender                    1  4
                             Garrulous Bartender                       5
         08-28-51? Tue   14  Vanishing Favorite                    1  45
         09-10-51? Mon   15  Embittered Secretary                  1  45
         09-17-51? Mon   16  Talking Bullet                        1  45
         09-24-51? Mon   17  The Fat Man's Loot                    1  45
         10-01-51? Mon   18  The General's Lady                    1  45
         10-08-51? Mon   19  The Violent Virtuoso                  1  45
         10-15-51? Mon   20  The Fourth Round Knockout             1  45
         10-22-51? Mon   21  Three On A Match                      1  45
         10-29-51? Mon   22  The Roughneck's Will                  1  45
         11-05-51? Mon   23  The Green Dubloon                     1  45
         11-12-51? Mon   24  The Sobbing Body Guard                1  45
         11-19-51? Mon   25  The Diver's Loot                      1  45
         11-26-51? Mon   26  Morman Country                        1  45
         12-03-51? Mon   27  The Brooklyn Accent                   1  45
         12-10-51? Mon   28  The Six Weeks Cure                    1  45
         12-17-51? Mon   29  The Fairway Beauty                       45
         12-24-51? Mon   30  The Runway Queen                      1  45
         12-31-51? Mon   31  The Lady In The Dark                  1  45
         01-07-52? Mon   32  The Silent Tongue                     1  45
         01-14-52? Mon   33  The Candy Killing                     1  
                             The Kandy Killing                        45
         01-21-52? Mon   34  The Undecided Bride                   1  45
         01-28-52? Mon   35  The Gold Worshipper                   1  45
         02-04-52? Mon   36  The House Divided                     1  45
         02-??-52? ???   36  The Pharaoh's Staff                      45
         02-??-52? ???   37  The House Divided                         5
         02-18-52? Mon   38  The Count Trefano Crest               1  45
         02-25-52? Mon   39  The Night Crawler                     1  45
         03-04-52? Tue   40  The Kettle Drum                       1  45
         03-11-52? Tue   41  the Loveable Character                1  45
         03-18-52? Tue   42  The Black Friers Bridge               1  45
         03-25-52? Tue   43  The Big Top                           1  45
 
         
     Information Sources:
 
     The information above was obtained from the following OTR vendor
     and club catalogs.  Contact them directly for more information.
 
         Key  Source
         ---  ----------------------------------------------------------
          1   Edward J. Carr, 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19512.
          2   Steve Kelez, Radio Showcase, [removed] Box 4357, Santa Rosa, CA 
              95402
          3   Society to Preserve and Encourage Radio Drama, Variety And
              Comedy (SPERDVAC), PO Box 7177, Van Nuys, CA 91409-7177
          4   Radio Historical Association of Colorado, [removed] Box 1908, 
              Englewood, CO 80150
          5   Radio Memories, 1600 Wewoka St., North Little Rock, AR 
              72116
 
     Although I have had favorable dealings with some of the above, to be 
     fair to all, this is not an endorsement of them. I receive nothing by 
     mentioning them.
 
 
     Last Update: 12-11-95
 
 
     Although I retain copyright, this log may be freely copied provided 
     that the text is unchanged.  Please share it with fellow OTR lovers.
 
     I would greatly appreciate any error corrections or additional
     information. Please send them to: Frank Passage, 109 Elmwood Road, 
     Verona, NJ 07044 or via e-mail to passage@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 10:49:50 -0700
From: levy@[removed] (Allen Levy)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: breakfast club
Message-Id: <v01530501acf370a19523@[[removed]]>

As a new member of this mailing list, I hope this goes through.

Does anybody remember the Don McNeil Breakfast Club that was broadcast from
Chicago on the Blue and then ABC Radio Network?  Does anyone have tapes of
any of the shows?  I am especially interested in shows that included
performances by The Four Vagabonds, a great black vocal group.  How about
tapes of any other shows that the Vagabonds appeared on?

Any help?

Even if not, I look forward to hearing from you and checking the mailing
list each day to see what all you folks are "talking" about.

Allen in Orange, CA>

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 13:55:59 -0500
From: veedee@[removed] (Vincent R. Damiano)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Sherlock Holmes on tape from Simon & Schuster
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Here is a list of the Sherlock Holmes tapes from Simon & Schuster up to
Volume 26. 
 
The New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes 
 
Volume 1:The Unfortunate Tobacconist and The Paradol Chamber 
 
Volume 2:The Viennese Strangler and The Notorious Canary Trainer 
 
Volume 3:The April Fool's Day Adventure and The Adventure Of The Uneasy
Easy Chair 
                  
Volume 4:The Strange Case Of The Demon Barber and The Mystery Of The
Headless Monk  
                   
Volume 5:The Amateur Mendicant Society and The Mystery Of The Vanishing
White Elephant 
                    
Volume 6:The Case Of The Limping Ghost and The Girl With The Gazelle 
 
Volume 7:The Case Of The Out Of Date Murder and The Waltz Of Death 
 
Volume 8:Colonel Warburton's Madness and The Iron Box 
 
Volume 9:A Scandal In Bohemia and The Second Generation 
 
Volume 10:In Flanders Fields and The Eyes Of Mr. Leyton 
 
Volume 11:The Tell-Tale Pigeon Feathers and The Indiscretion Of Mr. Edwards

 
Volume 12:The Problem Of Thor Bridge and The Double Zero 
 
Volume 13:Murder In The Casbah and The Tankerville Club 
 
Volume 14:The Strange Case Of The Murderer In Wax and The Man With The
Twisted Lip 
                     
Volume 15:The Guileless Gypsy and The Camberwell Poisoners 
 
Volume 16:The Terrifying Cats and The Submarine Cave 
 
Volume 17:The Living Doll and The Disappearing Scientists 
 
Volume 18:The Speckled Band and The Purloined Ruby 
 
Volume 19:The Book Of Tobit and Murder Beyond The Mountains 
 
Volume 20:The Manor House Case and The Adventure Of The Stuttering Ghost 
 
Volume 21:The Great Gandolfo and The Adventure Of The Original Hamlet 
 
Volume 22:Murder By Moonlight and The Singular Affair Of The Coptic Compass

 
Volume 23:The Gunpowder Plot and The Babbling Butler 
 
Volume 24:The Accidental Murderess and The Adventure Of The Blarney Stone 
 
Volume 25:The Night Before Christmas and The Darlington Substitution 
 
Volume 26:The Haunting Of Sherlock Holmes and The Baconian Cipher 
 

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 13:07:11 -0600
From: bensmanm@[removed] (Marvin R. Bensman)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Criticism of Radio
Message-id: <v01530501acf382fca6d8@[[removed]]>

Numerous critics have pointed out broadcasting's tendency toward escapism.

In 1927, H.  G.  Wells condemned radio as useful only to "very sedentary
persons living in badly lighted houses or otherwise unable to [removed]
who have no capacity for thought or conversation."

Of course, this does not refer to any of those of you who are reading this
right now.



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*Professor Marvin R. Bensman, [removed], [removed]                              *
*Department of Communication; Office Phone: (901) 678-3174 or 678-2565 *
*University of Memphis        Fax: (901) 678-4331                      *
*Memphis, TN 38152                                                     *
*E-mail: BensmanM@[removed]                                       *
*
*
* See: [removed]  *

************************************************************************

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 95 20:40 GMT
From: midshires@[removed] (Andrew Emmerson)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: midshires@[removed]
Subject: Re: NY Museum, [removed] Digest V95 #445
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In-Reply-To: <[removed]@[removed]>
>The only way to enjoy the programs is to go out and find complete 
versions, either by purchase or viewing at the Museum of TV & Radio in 
New York City.

This is tantalising. At 3,000-odd miles distance I have no details for 
this marvellous sounding place! Can you please post its address, phone 
and fax number? Many thanks, Andy.

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