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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 01 : Issue 27
A Part of the [removed]!
Today's Topics:
re: our ages [Rarotz@[removed] ]
Vintage microphones [Glenn Kalison <glennkalison@[removed]]
Re: Our Ages and how we got into Old ["Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <bratcher@]
Sherlock [removed] or Alive? ["Ken Lanza" <klanza1@[removed]; ]
Tape, etc. ["Michael Stein" <[removed]@nori]
new address ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
Ages [Ian Preston <idp@[removed]; ]
TV To Radio ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
Sherlock Holmes, Viva! ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
Ages [Patrick Picciarelli <condor@[removed];]
Re: Billy May [Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
Re: Billy Mills [Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
Sherlock Holmes dead? ["J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed]]
Our Ages and Ken's thoughts ["Jerry" <xfyles@[removed]; ]
Premiums and .... ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
Ages, Cars, Radio Reception, etc. et ["Chris Holm" <cbholm@[removed]]
Re: Ages and OTR ... and OSR [KirkG12797@[removed] ]
Tom Mix ["Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl]
War Bonds ["Welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:46:43 -0500
From: Rarotz@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re: our ages
I'm 57, so as a kid I heard some of the shows I collect now when they were
broadcast, particularly the juvenile adventure shows, above all the Lone
Ranger, Challenge of the Yukon and Straight Arrow; probably also Jack Benny
with some regularity and maybe Phil Harris too. (I was not allowed to listen
to the Shadow, Suspense or Inner Sanctum; no doubt my mother feared damage to
my impressionable young psyche.) When I was 8 we got a t_______n and like
everybody else I abandoned radio for the damned box, though I like to think
maybe it was a little more gradual in my case than most kids my age. And I
certainly never forgot the Lone Ranger. Indeed, I was heard to complain in
later life about "how could kids be expected to find a moral compass without
heroes like the LR." I also from time to time commented on the lack of
imagination kids seemed to have.
Fast forward, now, to the late 1980's or early 1990's. [I completely missed
the mini-revivals like CBS Mystery Theater.] One Sunday my wife came back
from driving to report that she had heard the Lone Ranger on her car radio!
It was one of Chuck Schaden's shows, I think one of the ones on WBBM in those
days. Another thing that happened (I can date this one to 1991) is that I
was lucky enough to be on a project that took a number of college professors
to Africa, where my principal link to news was via shortwave. I quickly
discovered the BBC and in short order stumbled on their Play of the Week, and
was almost literally blown away. So, while part of the attraction for me in
my return to radio listening was nostalgia, another part of it, from pretty
early days, was what we usually call the "Theater of the Mind" experience --
I just really *enjoyed* the chance to create my own scenery, lighting, props
etc. in my head.
Fairly quickly I rediscovered Jack Benny and realized that his radio
shows were almost always much funnier than anything I could find on today's
TV. I also, of course, had to start listening to the Shadow, Suspense and
Inner Sanctum since I'd been repressed from them as a kid, and though I never
became a big Shadow fan I now have an awful lot of Suspense tapes. The Benny
show led me (back?) to Phil Harris & Alice Faye who I find are often just
plain brilliant. I could go on at embarrassing length but it may be
interesting to someone if I mention that as a kid I never cared for Fibber
McGee & Molly at all, but now they are one of my favorites; also I think that
in my youth I completely missed Escape and Yours Truly Johnny Dollar which I
now collect a lot of (like so many others, especially the five-part YTJD's).
And still today I hardly ever miss a BBC Play of the Week. In short, there
are a *lot* of things I listen to now that have nothing to do with the radio
I remember from my childhood. So I have absolutely no trouble believing that
we have a lot of young people too; radio is still a great medium that
provides a different experience than anything else. In other words, a lot of
it is just plain good stuff.
-- Rhiman Rotz
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:25:21 -0500
From: Glenn Kalison <glennkalison@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Vintage microphones
Does anyone know where I can find new or used
microphones with a vintage OTR look and feel. I am
preferably looking for as many as four mics with
updated performance characteristics such as the Shure
55SH Series II, but ideally want a bi-directional
ribbon mic.
Does anyone have any experience with the Shure 55SH
Series II?
Many thanks,
GK
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:45:12 -0500
From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <bratcher@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Our Ages and how we got into Old Time Radio
I'm 42 now. Found out about OTR in the 70's by listening to Radio Mystery
Theater. Later I bought a few cassettes (old labels like Radio Reruns) of
Lone Ranger, Shadow & Suspense. Through my record collecting hobby I picked
up discs from Mark 57 & Radiola Records. Four years ago I discover the
internet & the wealth of OTR available there. I'm hooked for life on my
favorite shows! Often spend time listening to shows off my computers hard
drive. Problem is even though I only have a 56k modem I've got more shows
on the drive then I have time to listen to. Plus the D/L'ing of new (to me)
shows doesn't stop. I'm way backlogged but who really cares when I've got
an 80 gig HD to store it on. The only thing I burn to CDR is stuff I've
already listened to. There are about 6 discs though of unplayed shows from
my old computer. Usually I'll go to sleep while radio shows are playing on
the old (late 50's era) Curtis Mathis console stereo. I feed the audio from
the computer to a AM transmitter I built and pick it up on the console in
the bedroom. Yep. I'm hooked on OTR alright!
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:55:40 -0500
From: "Ken Lanza" <klanza1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Sherlock [removed] or Alive?
FYI:
Watson may have referred to his friend Holmes in the past
tense for one of two [removed] was thought to be dead
during the "Great Hiatus" of 1891-1894, when he was
occupied with traveling to Tibet, having led Moriarty's gang
(and Watson!) to think he was killed in his struggle with Moriarty
at the Reichenbach [removed], Holmes was in retirement in
Sussex Downs tending his [removed]!
regards,
Ken Lanza
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:55:42 -0500
From: "Michael Stein" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Tape, etc.
On the subject of taping onto cassette, here's something one may
overlook--that's a dirty tape head. Invest in a good tape head cleaner, one
that scrubs all that nasty stuff off. It definitely pays off in better sound
quality.
On the subject of age--normally I try to avoid it. But I'm 45 and my only
memories of OTR are of hearing Arthur Godfrey in the morning. Back in the
1980s, my brother-in-law had several Fibber McGee, Shadow and Green Hornet
episodes that I got hooked on. From there, I searched every available outlet
for "new" old shows. I never dreamed that technology would someday open new
doors for OTR collectors. But back then who would've dreamed that we'd have
something like the Internet (outside of Al Gore, of course).
I've always wondered what it is about people like us who have this need to
collect and continue to collect. Nobody in my family or circle of friends
can understand it and I can't explain it. I have about 2,500 shows--enough
to last a lifetime--and I still continue to add to the collection. The only
response I have to those who ask is: "I just love it!" Can anybody come up
with a better reason why we collect these treasures beyond what the
non-learned might consider reasonable?
Michael
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:36 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: new address
FYI:
I recently did a no-no and caused my hotmail account to go on the fritz.
My new e-mail address (for anyone I may not have e-mailed in the past day or
so) is new, and now has an extra "m" in the beginning. This is the first
time I've had to change my e-mail address in three or four years and
considering I know people who change their address every month, I guess I'm
ahead.
Thanks!
Martin Grams
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:37 -0500
From: Ian Preston <idp@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ages
16? I can beat that - I turn 15 in August :)
Ian.
--
Ian Preston
[removed]~msn
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:41 -0500
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: TV To Radio
I am sure many of you remember that a few of the OTR shows made a
successful transition to TV - but - there were some shows that debuted on TV
that also had a radio series airing at the same time: Three such shows
come to mind: HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL, starring John Dehner, as Palidin, MY
FAVORITE HUSBAND, starring Lucille Ball (before Lucy), in the Joan Caufield
Role and FORT LARAMIE with Raymond Burr (he also did the TV version).
I know that there must have others, and maybe someone who eads this Digest
can come up with some shows they remember.
Owens Pomeroy
<[removed];
<[removed];
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:43 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sherlock Holmes, Viva!
Jim Amash asks,
In listening to the various Sherlock Holmes series done during old time
radio days, it strikes me that since Watson never refers to Holmes in the
present, that the writers infer that Holmes was no longer alive. I know
they use the Watson narration gimmick because he was Homes' biographer
but has this idea ever occurred to anyone else besides me?<<
Quite the contrary! Sherlock Holmes pops up from time to time elsewhere,
including in one of the 1970s Man From [removed] paperbacks. As was
pointed out in the Sherlock Holmes books, one of his hobbies has been
beekeeping. It was speculated that he discovered and/or isolated an
ingredient in Royal Jelly -- the special food that develops Queen Bees --
something that would extend his life significantly. Naturally, he's
incredibly ancient now.
An equivalent question might apply to Nick Carter. Nick first appeared
in turn-of-century dime novels as a man of action. He resurfaced in OTR
as a laid-back master detective. In the 1960s and 1970s, he appeared as
"killmaster" in a series of paperback novels -- a man of action again.
Maybe the secret to longevity is exposure on OTR.
While we're on the subject of OTR detectives, it might be worthwhile to
point out that most of them were PIs or amateurs. Mr. and Mrs. North,
for instance, are the first amateur sleuths that come to mind, but there
were some others. Many were licensed -- Sam Spade even dictated his
license number, 137596, to his secretary, Effie, at the beginning of each
case. These included Nick Carter, Richard Diamond, Bradford Runyan (The
Fat Man), and even Mr. Keen. But very few were cops. Dragnet, Gang
Busters, Dick Tracy, and a couple of FBI shows are the only things that
come to mind immediately.
There were also those outside the whole sphere who fought crime, such as
The Green Hornet and The Shadow. (The Lone Ranger fought crime, but
often his exploits, such as keeping peace between Indians and settlers,
as outside the crimefighting sphere. Likewise, any military or
paramilitary hero, like Captain Midnight, can't be considered in the
category.)
Finally, there was a type of show where the hero was up against crime and
"fought" it to save his skin: that was Pat Novak.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:45 -0500
From: Patrick Picciarelli <condor@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Ages
I'm 54 and had my first experience with OTR at the end of its run. I
discovered "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar" by accident around 1960. I
recall that it was on Sunday evenings in NYC, around 6pm, I believe.
After high school I joined the army, went to Vietnam (infantry) and
pretty much forgot about OTR. After that, it was 20 years in the NYPD (I
retired as a Lt. in '88). I got licensed as a private investigator upon
retirement, and rediscovered OTR while working on a case. I began
collecting "Johnny Dollar" and "Suspense" shows and have most of them in
my collection. The rest of my collection (about 3,000 shows) consists
mostly of mysteries, with some westerns thrown in. Basically, I'll
listen to anything, and I often slap on headphones at night and fall
asleep while listening to a show (the next morning I rewind the tape and
begin again, usually while on a treadmill, to hear the conclusion). I
also bring a stack of shows with me on my trips to NY, about a seven
hour drive.
I've recently discovered Ted Davenport's Radio Memories web page and
ordered about fifteen "Johnny Dollar" 5-parters. These days I'm a
full-time writer of novels, screenplays, and nonfiction books (NY cops
want to be writers, LA cops want to be actors). A few months back I
asked the members of this list to recommend an OTR dealer they thought
highly of who I would insert in my next book (the story has several
scenes where OTR plays a pivotal role). I got MANY e-mails from the
folks on this list. Well, the book's completed and will be released
sometime this coming summer from Penguin/Putnam. No title as yet
(actually I've got one, but publishers like to change them), but I'll
advise when it hits the stands, so you folks can find out whom you
regard as the most honorable OTR dealer in the business. Actually, it
was a tie between two dealers, so I used them both. Good (free)
publicity for them, and apparently they deserve it, according to the
people who contacted me.
In the meantime, a day doesn't go by when I don't listen to OTR. I've
got a 6 year-old son who digs the Lone Ranger. The next generation of
OTR fan.
Sincerely,
Patrick Picciarelli
author, "Blood Shot Eyes"
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:47 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Billy May
What coincidence. I was just listening to a Fibber and Molly tape this
morning, and Billy was one of the "House Guests." That got me to wondering.
Why did Billy appear on so few shows? He was an excellent ploy for Fibber,
and his lines were every bit as funny as any one else's. Which years or
episodes did Billy appear? Were he and Jim and Marion friends off stage? I
downloaded a site called WebFerret from ZDNet, and typed in Billy's name, but
did not find to much about him. I did find something on Harlow though. He was
in chataqua for quite a few years as a baritone singer.
As for age, I will be 62 next month. I have been listening to OTR it seems
all my life. I probably have a collection of around 4,000 to 5,000 tapes and
[removed]'s. and never tire of listening to them. As a matter of fact, it seems
every time I listen to one of the programs I always hear something new I had
not heard the previous time.
Charlie Northway
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:50 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Billy Mills
Forgot to mention. Billy Mills was born in 1900, so that would make him 100
or 101 years of age.
Charlie Northway
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:34:52 -0500
From: "J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Sherlock Holmes dead?
I think the assumption is not that Holmes is dead, but that he has been in
retirement for a number of years ... according to the original stories he
retired ca1903, but the stories continued until 1927. I don't know if there
are actual references in some of the radio scripts to this part of the saga.
Can someone who has heard mor of them than I clarify this?
Randy Cox
cox@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:21:33 -0500
From: "Jerry" <xfyles@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Our Ages and Ken's thoughts
Jello everybody,
Neat thread going here. I'm 42 going on 39 and have been a OTR fan for about
10 years. Started with cassettes and then moved on to MP3. Actually I
started collecting old movies on video in the mid eighties and OTR was a
natural progression for me.
I'm moved at some of the responses in this thread.
Especially Ken Piletic and his early days of recording and collecting.
<<In 1948, my dad brought home an Eicor tape recorder. I soon discovered
that you could "patch" the recorder to the loudspeaker of a radio using
alligator clips. Using this procedure, I recorded my first radio program
off
the air. It was an episode of "The Shadow".>>
Very cool. Memories like this are very enlightening and allows me to
appreciate the efforts of the hobbyist in the beginning.
In this day of MP3 and CDR'[removed] copying hither and yon
...[removed] and more [removed]'s of shows trading
hands everyday. In 1948 an 11 year old kid used alligator clips to jury rig
his radio to tape a Shadow episode. How cool is that?! :) [removed] that is
what its all about. Great story.
<<The collection continues to grow.
I believe I have about 70,000 programs - but there are some duplicates>>
Wow. I thought my collection was large. One thing I truly enjoy with this
hobby is hearing a show that I haven't heard yet. And with your 70,000
[removed] my goodness.
Ken you have some great memories. Thanks for sharing. :)
Jerry
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:04:35 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Premiums and ....
A friend asked me about a Captain Midnight premium -- and once I found
out about it, I realized that it was neither a premium nor connected with
either the OTR or TV show: it was a comic-book item. this brings up an
item or three:
Some OTR programs were connected with other forms of media, including
comic books, comic strips, and even movies. Captain Midnight, to get
that out of the way first, had a comic-strip, comic-book, and movie
(serial) incarnations, notwithstanding that it began in radio. There
were also Jack Armstrong books and a movie serial. The Lone Ranger,
likewise. Buck Rogers, Mandrake the Magician, and Red Ryder began as
comic strips (well, Buck was a novel first) and migrated to the radio.
And so forth.
As a result, there are items related to the meta-characters that have
nothing to do with OTR, save for name sharing. I'd previously mentioned
a 1947 Buck Rogers radio premium -- the Ring of Saturn -- but
contemporaneous with that premium was the Buck Rogers Model U-235 Atomic
Pistol, manufactured by Daisy, and sold in stores -- not a premium, and
not even mentioned on the radio. There are a lot of items that relate to
strips or shows that aren't premiums, but may be mistaken for such by
folk who never lived through the period.
Lunch boxes, cap pistols, and even ball-point pens have been associated
with characters, but not as radio premiums. Anyone unfamiliar with, but
interested in collecting, premiums ought to obtain a reliable reference
guide like Tom Tumbusch's Tomart's Guide or Ted Hake's Advertising
collectible books before even beginning to look for premiums.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:04:33 -0500
From: "Chris Holm" <cbholm@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Ages, Cars, Radio Reception, etc. etc.
Listmates,
At 26 years old, I'm one of the younger (though certainly not the
youngest) members of the list. Interestingly enough, I don't remember a
time when I didn't listen to OTR. I grew up in the DC area, and every
Sunday night the whole family tuned into The Big Broadcast on WAMU ([removed]).
I grew up with Matt Dillon, the Shadow, and Lum and Abner - leading to my
obsessive fascination with OTR.
A few comments and questions that hopefully the list can help me with,
some of which are more radio related than others (please forgive me):
1) I remember an OTR commercial for a new Ford truck (possibly on the Fred
Allen Show, but I'm travelling for work and can't check my collection to be
sure). The commercial went on about the trucks big engine (289 cubic
inches, I think) and it's 100 horsepower. 100 horsepower? That doesn't
sound like a lot. My car has a [removed] liter (about 115ci) and puts out about
125 horsepower, my motorcycle is 750cc and almost 100 horsepower. Sure they
have fuel injection, multiple valves, overhead cams, but this still seems
like a huge difference. I can't imagine a commercial being so enthusiastic
about 100 horsepower. Am I missing something?
2) I have what is charmingly called a 'garden-level' apartment - which
means it is half underground. My very expensive receiver / tuner / surround
sound processor with powered antenna can't get a radio station tuned in to
save it's life. Nothing but static, while my $15 clock-radio alarm clock
tunes in stations crystal clear. Could some of the more technically
oriented members explain what's going on?
3) This may be a little late, but for what its worth, I can't stand Mr.
Keen. A lot of shows tend to use the dialog-description technique (I'm
going to kill you with this gun I'm holding, etc.), but this show is
absolutely the worst. In my opinion, one should NEVER listen to a Mr. Keen
after listening to Gunsmoke or Dragnet, shows that mastered the technique of
using sound patterns and dialog conversations to create the picture.
4) Speaking of Dragnet, TV Land had a Dragnet marathon weekend last month -
which I enjoyed very much. The shows did have that famous Webb black and
white moralizing and heavy hand directing. It seems to me that while you
get some of the same touch in the radio show, it's not nearly as heavy. Do
other people feel the same way? If I'm not imagining it, why the
difference? Were other people involved with the radio show? Did the
sponsor have a say? Did Jack Webb just get older and crankier? I'd love to
hear what other people think about it.
regards
Chris Holm
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:07:23 -0500
From: KirkG12797@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Ages and OTR ... and OSR
First off, let me join the age survey by saying I'm 41, and have been
interested in radio drama since my parents introduced us to it during long
car trips in my youth (on eight track tapes, yet!). Like Steve Lewis, I also
had a misspent youth with Blackhawk Films.
I was quite intrigued by Stephen Kallis' posting. My wife too is not a real
fan, but I can get her to listen to certain shows on long trips. She likes
dramas more than the comedy programs (which require too many inside
references, in her opinion). A little "Vic and Sade" goes a long way with
her, but I love her anyway. We both enjoy challenging ourselves with
"Information, Please."
Stephen also made some valid points about the failure of current revivals of
radio drama missing some important qualities (length being an important one
he mentioned). He also mentioned the difficulty of watching Mutoscopes,
etc., and I would extend that analogy to silent pictures in general.
Both silent pictures and radio drama require you to really be attentive with
one of your senses in order to fully grasp them. I have to agree that modern
audiences aren't used to that. They've learned how to follow a story on
television, while looking away or listening to something else (and at that
they only get the story, and miss a lot of what else is going on--it may not
be that modern television or movies are so bad, but that their audiences
don't give them the attention they deserve). We all can divide our attention
very easily these days.
For most people, radio is still a quaint nostalgia thing. If they have any
concept of it at all they know about "The Shadow" and "The Lone Ranger" (I'm
not trying to start any discussions on the merits of those shows). It helps
most people put radio drama in a narrow category, and puts many of us in the
position of trying to explain that there's more to it (just as comic arts
fans fight to get people to recognize there's more to that form than Archie
comics).
Raido drama always had its share of innovators back to the earliest days.
Godsen and Correll certainly were. I've previously posted about the
incredible power Norman Corwin's work, going back to the thirties, still has
for me today. Look at the decade of the fifties in radio and you find a lot
of innovative drama even in the regular series, like "Gunsmoke" and "Dragnet"
and many others that people champion here.
Given that, it's amazing to me to think of how far radio drama could have
developed by now if there had been an outlet for it all these intervening
years.
Where was I?
Oh, yes. New radio drama, it seems to me, has to walk a fine line to bridge
that gap between people's expectations of what it is (quaint, nostalgic
stuff) and what we know it can be (dynamic, vibrant art). Go too far one way
and you reinforce people's prejudices; go too far the other, and you alienate
with something they don't understand.
Kirk Gardner
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:07:24 -0500
From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Tom Mix
I've been reading the OTR Digest for several months
now, and been collecting OTR since the early '70s. I
have never found anyone who has any recordings of
Tom Mix. I listened to this show all through my high
school years ('44-'47) and for a short time after that.
I always thought that Tom Mix was more "adult" than
most other radio serials.
I suspect that the reason no one has this show is that it
was broadcast live. Is that possible? Or is there someone out there in OTR
Fandom who has some
episodes of this show.
Harry
P. S. I'm 71, and grew up with radio, beginning in the
mid-'30s. I was lucky enough to have attended many
radio broadcasts from Hollywood while in the navy
(1950-1954).
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:07:27 -0500
From: "Welsa" <welsa@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: War Bonds
This is not technically an OTR subject, but during the war years most every
radio (and movie) star around was promoting War Bonds. I have often
wondered just how these worked. I know the money went to help finance the
war. But there must have been some incentive to buy them, other than
patriotic duty.
Were these interest-bearing? If so, at what rate? How long for them to
mature? Was this considered a successful program? I know they sold bonds
during WWI and WWII, but I don't remember them during Korea or Vietnam.
Why? What changed that the governement didn't need to sell them in those
later years?
Were these similar to the US Savings Bonds they still offer today?
I know, a lot of questions, but I have often wondered about just how these
things worked.
Ted
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