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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 152


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 OTR thoughts
	 Re: Freberg and "Old Time" Radio
	 Re: End of the era
	 Donated Library
	 Famous Jury Trials
	 Grand Marquee log
	 Man from Homicide
	 Jack Benny
	 Ruby Begonia
	 LS/MFT
	 Re:  Bill Sabis' Theatre of the Mind
	  [removed] Digest V96 #151 -Reply

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Date: 25 Apr 1996 15:26:24 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: OTR thoughts
Message-Id: <m0uCXck-000Y9rC@[removed]>

Just another subscribers opinion on OTR and open discussions. When I
think of OTR I kind of lump it all together since I wasn't around for
the majority of it anyway. I like all different types of
shows--commedies, dramma, sifi etc. Granted some of the various shows
aren't my favorites but I can always learn something from seeing what
other people have to say about them on the digest. For me it's just a
bunch of people at the same party talking about one of their favorite
things. You just tune out the part of the conversation that doesn't
interest you.

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 14:57:36 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Freberg and "Old Time" Radio
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

bilj@[removed] (Bill Jaker) writes:
>        To the question of whether Stan Freberg can be considered "old time 
>radio" I can only quote the indispensable John Dunning: "The Stan Freberg 
>Show never really had a chance on radio, premiering far, far too late on CBS 
>July 14, 1957." 
>        I've always considered the era of radio as a family entertainment 
>medium to have run from the late 20s through the mid 50s, probably bracketed 
>by Amos & Andy and Johnny Dollar.

I read this topic with some disbelief, [removed] that whether Stan Freberg
could be considered "old time radio" or not was even debatable. Considering
that he not only had his own radio show (albeit only 15 episodes) but also
appeared on other shows (even "Suspense", if I'm not mistaken), I don't see
how he couldn't be counted. Perhaps the fact that he's still alive and on
the air is clouding our judgment? (I'm joking! Really! Don't write in! :-)

If you divide the topic into Freberg the Man and Freberg the Show, well,
perhaps the show was indeed late to radio, but IMHO he himself was not.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 18:11:17 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: End of the era
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

The end of Old Time Radio is kind of like the Fall of the Roman Empire. 
 Historians have set a date, but people at the time may not have noticed 
that it happen.
Buxton and Owen defined it as 1950.  Clearly there was a lot of activity 
in the 50's (and they even make some exceptions for 50's shows like 
Gunsmoke and include them).
Is the end when the last "program" goes out of production to be replaced 
by a format -- or is it when the tide has clearly turned?
You might even argue it was over when the network announcers started 
saying "this is the (NBC)(CBS) RADIO network"  (rather than "this is 
NBC, the National Broadcasting Company" or "this is CBS, The Columbia 
Broadcasting System.")  Meantime, they were saying "this is (NBC)(CBS) 
(ABC)" on television.
I'd argue for 1961 when CBS ended both daytime soaps on radio and the 
last series in the evening (Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar).  Exceptions 
noted for Don McNeil and the Breakfast Club (1968) and Arthur Godfrey 
Time (1972).
Efforts by the BBC, NPR, CBC and even CBS Radio Mystery Theater are 
exercises in Nostalgia -- like Mel Brooks' Silent Movie or writing 
poetry in Latin.  
Maybe there is a future in audio drama.  Audio Books.  As demand grows, 
and competition increases, maybe audio books will start to be more than 
some guy reading.  Maybe they'll have a narrator (Fred Foy, where are 
you?), actors, music and sound effects.  With today's technology -- and 
all the time needed to do justice to a novel -- it could be good stuff, 
maybe better than the old days (and better than waiting for the movie to 
come out).  In fact, the main barrier to turning talking books into 
audio drama might be the studios which buy the movie rights  -- then 
again, some smart guy might know enough history to recall that Lux 
Theater actually promoted movies and increased attendance.
But it still won't be old time radio.
-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
Michael Carraher                  |There are [removed]
Qualitative Research Consultant   |Damn [removed]
Philadelphia, PA                  |And statistics.
__________________________________|__________________________________

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Date: 25 Apr 96 20:14:49 EDT
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Judy Jones <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Donated Library
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Judy:
Re your donated library.  You may want to contact two of my club's reel to reel
librarians in your general
area. 
Scott Jones 4741 E. Grant Ave Fresno, CA 93702  He is in charge of the Radio
Series library.
Jim Watson P O Box 104 Coarsegold, CA 93614   He is in charge of the Variety
Series library.
Both handle reel to reel libraries for my club NARA (North American Radio
Archives) They should get you aimed in the right direction both ethically and
legally.
Thank you for posting your inquiry.  New found old shows are constantly coming
up but only if someone like you takes the time to find out who's interested.  I
have nightmares of someone coming along and finding some rare show (like the
missing episode of I Love A Mystery Temple of Vampires) and not knowing its
value and giving it a toss in an already crammed landfill somewhere.
Norman C. 

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 18:45:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Gerald D. Wright" <gdwright@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Famous Jury Trials
Message-ID: <[removed]@netcom7>

Can someone help me date the few programs I have of this series? I know 
it started in the 1930s till the late 1940s. A few titles I have are all 
"The People vs ... " 
1. Caroline Lee 
2. Arthur Phillips
3. Benjamin Harris

The all end with the tag: A Grace Gibson Production, Directed by Lawrence 
H. Cecil.

Any help is appreciated.

Gerry Wright
San Francisco
gdwright@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:31:42 PST
From: passage@[removed] (Frank M Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Grand Marquee log
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

                           G R A N D   M A R Q U E E
                           ---------   -------------

                                  1946 - 1947


     First Show: 07-09-46                             Last Show: 09-04-47
     Number Shows: 54                             Audition Show: none
known


     Show Description:

     This dramatic series was heard on NBC for only a little over a year.
     It was directed by Director Norman Felton.  Virginia Stafford Lynne
     was the writer.  Leading roles near the end of its run were
frequently
     played by Jim Ameche, Olan Soule and Beryl Vaughn.

     The series started on Tuesday evenings.  This lasted to almost the 
     end of 1946.  The last show of 1946 was the point where the show 
     changed to Thursday evenings.  It remained on Thursdays until the
end
     of its run in September of 1947.


     List Comments:

     This show is another of those short runs that is somewhat hard to 
     find in catalogs.  A lot of shows were listed without dates.  One 
     source listed the 09-04-47 show as the last of the series, but NARA
     listed one beyond that date.  Two catalogs listed a show with no 
     date.  I've placed it at the end of the list.


     List:

         Date      Num  Title                                 Src Key
         --------  ---  ------------------------------------  ---------
           1946
         07-09-46    1  Half A Dog Is Better Than None           45
         07-16-46    2  No Room For A Lady
         07-23-46    3  Hold It, Please!                         45
         07-30-46    4  Hold That Memory                           6
         08-06-46    5  Wedding In Columbia                       56
         08-13-46    6  Love, That Is                             56
         08-20-46    7  Man Or Mouse                              56
         08-27-46    8  Home Is The Sailor
         09-03-46    9  The Warrior's Return
         09-10-46   10  Miss Livingstone, I Presume?
         09-17-46   11  Ways That Are Dark
         09-24-46   12  Mexican Interlude                        4 6
         10-01-46       >>> no program <<<
         10-08-46       >>> no program <<<
         10-15-46       >>> no program <<<
         10-22-46       >>> no program <<<
         10-29-46       >>> no program <<<
         11-05-46       >>> no program <<<
         11-12-46       >>> no program <<<
         11-17-46   13  Hold That Curtain!
         11-24-46   14  East Is East
         12-01-46   15  Run, Grunion, Run
         12-08-46       >>> no program <<<
         12-15-46   16  Chickens Don't Fly
         12-22-46       >>> no program <<<

                        Change to Thrusday evenings

         12-26-46   17  The Slide Rule Says "Pass"

          1947
         01-02-47   18  Sweet Voyager                          2 4
         01-09-47   19  Wildcat Strike
         01-16-47   20  If the Shoe Fits                         4
         01-23-47   21  Love is a Better Word                 12 4
         01-30-47   22  A Woman's Place                       1   56
         02-06-47   23  Talk To Me                            1
         02-13-47   24  Deep Freeze                           1  4
         02-20-47   25  A Man's Home is Her Castle             2 4  
         02-27-47   26  Not At Home On The Range
         03-06-47   27  Yippee! It's Love
         03-13-47   28  Pygmalion's Gal                           56
         03-20-47   29  I Hear Trumpets                            6
         03-27-47   30  Mr. Pennfeather And The Stranger           6
         04-03-47   31  Inside Story
         04-10-47   32  When Knighthood Was In Flower
         04-17-47   33  Here Lies Marcia
         04-24-47   34  J. Cartwright's Camera
         05-01-47   35  The First Hundred Years                   5
         05-08-47   36  Crazy Over Horses                          6
         05-15-47   37  Danger, No Obstacle                       56
         05-22-47   38  For The Love Of James                     56
         05-29-47   39  How Now, Brown Cow                    1  4
         06-05-47   40  Hex Marks The Spot                    1   56
         06-12-47   41  Uncle Will And The Hot Dollar         1
         06-19-47   42  Betty And Al's Wife, Horace           1234 6
         06-26-47   43  The Unexpected Guest                       6
         07-03-47   44  No Room For A Lady                         6
         07-10-47   45  Here We Go Again
         07-17-47   46  Hocus Pocus Can Be Murder
         07-24-47   47  Sometimes You Strike It Rich               6
         07-31-47   48  The First And The Last
         08-07-47   49  'Til Crime Do Us Part                     56
         08-14-47   50  The Magic Wire
         08-21-47   51  Haunt Me A House                         456
         08-28-47   52  Wedding In Columbia                       5
         09-04-47   53  What Is This Thing Called Love?           56
         09-11-47   54  The Remarkable Talents of E. Haw          5

         ??-??-??   ??  Cross Country Party                       56


     Information Sources:

     The information above was obtained from the following OTR vendor
     and club catalogs.  Contact them directly for more information.

         Key  Source
         ---  ----------------------------------------------------------
          1   Carr, Edward J., 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19512
          2   Radio Showcase (Steve Kelez), [removed] Box 4357, Santa Rosa, CA

              95402
          3   University of Memphis Radio Program Archive, Learning Media

              Center, The University of Memphis, Memphis, TN 38152
          4   Society to Preserve and Encourage Radio Drama, Variety And
              Comedy (SPERDVAC), PO Box 7177, Van Nuys, CA 91409-7177
          5   North American Radio Archives (NARA), 134 Vincewood Dr., 
              Nicolasville, KY 40356.
          6   Great American Radio, PO Box 504 Genesee, MI 48437

     I have dealt with some of the above, but to be fair to all, this is
not 
     an endorsement of them.  I receive nothing by mentioning them. 
These 
     vendors and clubs have helped keep OTR alive.  Please support them. 
 


     Other Logs:

     This log is meant as a check list and source guide and is based on
     vendor catalogs.  Other, more detailed, logs are available from:

        Jay Hickerson, Box 4321, Hamden, Ct 06514


     Last Update: 04-25-96


     Although I retain copyright, this log may be freely copied provided 
     that the text is unchanged.  Please share it with fellow OTR lovers.
 
     I would greatly appreciate any error corrections or additional
     information. Please send them to: Frank Passage, 109 Elmwood Road, 
     Verona, NJ 07044 or via e-mail to passage@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:43:02 +0000
From: "George S. Cole" <us030822@[removed]>
To: OTR@[removed]
Subject: Man from Homicide
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Does anybody out there know if a substantial number of these shows are 
available? I have just two episodes, one starring Dan Duryea and one 
featuring Charles McGraw.  Duryea was far better than McGraw in my 
opinion.

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:05:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 07:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: jnestero@[removed] (John Nesteroff)
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: More Freberg talk
> Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
> 
> I always thought Stan's show took Jack's show's place when he went on to 
> do TV.

Jack began to do TV in 1950, and in a few years moved to a bi-weekly 
schedule.  His radio show continued every week, with a hiatus over the 
summer.  New radio shows ended in 1955, but the radio show continued with 
reruns for several years thereafter.  As best I can remember, it lasted 
until 1958 or 1959.  Stan Freberg's radio show was a summer replacement 
in 1957.

======================================================================
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
======================================================================

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:11:13
From: "Chester L. Cox" <ChetEL@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ruby Begonia
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>A phrase that I've known for as long as I can remember is
>"Does the name Ruby Begonia strike a familiar chord?".
>I can't remember where I heard this, but I suspect it was
>from the Amos'n'Andy television show.
>
>Is anyone else familiar with this quote?
>
Sammy Davis Jr used it in his act for years and years.  I thought 
he was saying RUDY Begonia, but I could be wrong.  As far as I 
know, Rudy was never actually "introduced" and it was an identifier 
when someone would ask who he was.
*jeep!

~~Chet

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For a free copy of the Book of Mormon and/or information on the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, e-mail ChetEl@[removed] or
CHCox@[removed]  Nobody will call or visit unless you request it.

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:12:13
From: "Chester L. Cox" <ChetEL@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: LS/MFT
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Not that I endorse smoking (the cigarette commercials of the past 
are blatantly obscene - promoting cigarettes as a health 
treatment?), but isn't that Lucky StriKe?  LS/MFT(click click click 
click) - Lungs of Smokers Mean Few Tomorrows.

> One of the things about the Jack Benny Show that I particularly 
>enjoyed was the Sportsmen and their Lucky Stripes commercials. 
When the 
>Sportsmen joined the cast in, I believe, 1946, did they start 
right off 
>with their original commercial ideas?
>
>Plus, the only copy of the first episode for Lucky Stripes that 
I've seen 
>advertised is an AFRS edition. This would be somewhat 
self-defeating, 
*jeep!

~~Chet

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For a free copy of the Book of Mormon and/or information on the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, e-mail ChetEl@[removed] or
CHCox@[removed]  Nobody will call or visit unless you request it.

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 03:55:31 -0500
From: Bill Sabis <bilsab@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:  Bill Sabis' Theatre of the Mind
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

In response to the many e-mails I've received, here are some details 
about my OTR radio show Theatre of the Mind (TOTM) broadcasting from 
WUFT Gainesville & WJUF FM Inverness, Florida. We are Public Radio.

After almost 20 years on the air, my show has produced some 
interesting listenership statistics. We "own" the Sunday night 8-10PM 
time slot with 37% of the entire radio audience. Our surveys indicate 
the following age breakdown (approximately)

15 and under=33%
15-30=30%
above 30=37%

We are a college town in Gainesville with 30,000 students and a 
resident population (in town only) of roughly 90,000. The population 
in our large North-central Florida listening area is unknown to me but 
it is significant because our 100,000 watt signal reaches almost to 
Tampa and Orlando on the South, to the Atlantic Ocean, up to 
Jacksonville, into extreme southern Georgia and over to the Gulf of 
Mexico.

Kids love OTR!! Many people are shocked to learn that so much of our 
audience is under the age of 15 and that so many youngsters are really 
into OTR. I'm not shocked at all. I've been going to schools on and 
off for 20 years playing OTR and I know it's true. Kids love to be 
TOLD a story as much today as they did when I was a child in the days 
of radio's "golden age". 

Picture this; 150 fifth graders sitting on the floor together, staring 
into space and not a peep out of them for 30 minutes while I play 
"Star Bright" from X minus One. Impossible you say? Believe it!!

Any teachers out there? We also do OTR script writing contests for 
middle and high school students. I've also suggested some OTR writing 
projects for kids in 4-6th grade. The teachers have responded and 
these have turned out very well. Let me know if you need additional 
info.

Bill Sabis

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:08:26 -0400
From: RADIO WPHS <WPHS@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  [removed] Digest V96 #151 -Reply
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Welll if you guys can't help I don't know who can.  I run a 100 watt high
school station in Warren, Michigan- WPHS [removed] FM. My students have
expressed an interest in performing radio dramas on the air, live. They
are  taking a stab at writing their own scripts but I'm searching for
backups, just in case. Does any one know where I can get my hands on
some OTR scripts and what the laws are about performing them.

Reply to: wphs@[removed]
Or call (810)574-3137 ask for Jenny Schermerhorn or Mary Ann Tighe


Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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