Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #255
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 7/7/2002 3:03 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 255
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Publicity for the 1948 Moves      [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Moxie                                 [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
  NBC Chimes                            [ "welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
  Candid Microphone                     [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Howard Culver & Jordans               [ "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed] ]
  Bob and Ray on a train                [ "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:26:49 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Publicity for the 1948 Moves

Chris Chandler wrote:

(And a question:  press accounts of the period give
the Benny/CBS deal LOTS more play than the 'Amos and
Andy' switch, even though I think the deals were
somewhat similar.  Why so?)

I think the main reason was simply that A&A had already been on CBS once
before -- for four years from 1939 to 1943, as a result of the Campbell
Soup Company's comfy relationship with CBS. *That* move was given a lot
of play in the press -- supposedly CBS stock jumped several points when
the news was announced -- and it got a lot of attention in the media. One
of the most interesting demonstrations of what a significant event the
1939 move was is the fact that following the final A&A serial episode on
NBC, station KFI in Los Angeles broadcast a special tribute program
commemorating Correll and Gosden's nine and a half years on NBC and
wishing them well on CBS. There was also a big farewell party thrown by
the NBC-Hollywood staff, which was highlighted by the playing of a
specially-made recording, parodying how "The March of Time" might have
covered the story.

All that being so, one could suggest that the 1948 move wasn't seen as
being that big a deal. "Newsweek" did play up the story quite well,
though -- stressing that the move gave CBS full ownership and control of
the program. "If Mr. Paley asks us to sweep out the studio, we'll have to
do it," noted Charles Correll. As you note, though, Paley is *not*
entitled to the credit for instigating the A&A move -- the entire deal
was arranged on behalf of Correll and Gosden by Lew Wasserman of MCA, and
Paley simply jumped at the chance to buy, his primary interest being the
program's value as a future TV property.

On the other hand, Benny had been on NBC continuously since 1933, and was
seen as the very foundation stone of NBC's comedy roster. Combine that
with the legal questions surrounding the Amusement Enterprises/CBS deal,
and you can see why that story might receive more play.

Elizabeth

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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:28:35 -0400
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Moxie

Hello All:

I live in eastern New York and I used to love to pick up some Moxie when
visiting western Massachusetts.  Unfortunately it withdrew from that market
a while ago, so it is only on my much less frequent sorties into eastern New
England that I can get some now.  (Yes, I've seen the website for regional
soft drinks, but it seems a bit too pricey for me.)

I'm surprised that someone utterly unrelated to the soft drink has the
[removed] URL and that the Moxie folks don't do anything about it.

George

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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:29:13 -0400
From: "welsa" <welsa@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  NBC Chimes

 You can read about and see the chimes machine at:

 [removed]~jfs

 Click on "articles" and then scroll down to the one on the chimes.

 Ted

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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:35:59 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Candid Microphone

Joe Mackey's  'Today in radio history' for 7/6 mentioned

1947 - Candid Microphone debuted on ABC, hosted by Allen Funt

Excuse my ignorance.   Thanks for that info, Joe.  I had no idea that a
candid radio program preceded Candid Camera.    Are there any tapes of that
program available?    For laughing out loud points Candid Camera always did
it for me.   Allen Funt's son produces and presents a current version on
cable.

~Irene
IreneTH@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:36:48 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Howard Culver & Jordans

Dennis Crow asks what Howard Culver thought of the Jordans after doing a
Family Theater show with them.  Sorry, Dennis, but I'm like Harry
[removed] mention of a conversation 52 years ago has slipped out of my
mind. I have no recollection of what he said after coming home from the
show.
 Yes, Howard did quite a number of Family Theater shows.  Father Patrick
Peyton was a wonderful man and in Oct 1953 Howard had been called for one of
the shows. While he was there, I went to the hospital unexpectedly early for
the birth of our twins.  Howard slipped in to see me after hours.  He then
got a call from Father Peyton, with a call to work another show the next day
"for the other twin!"

Lois Culver
KWLK Radio (Mutual) Longview, WA 1941-44
KFI Radio (NBC) Los Angeles CA 1945-47, 50-53
Widow of Howard Culver, actor

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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:06:06 -0400
From: "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];
To: "otr digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bob and Ray on a train

On the other side of the railroad coin, there were Bob and Ray and their
crazy fun.  One program had them doing a "dramatic" scene taking place on
a
moving train.  I think it was one of their "Mister Trace, Keener Than Most
People" episodes.  They provided their own clickety-clack rail sound
effects by the simple expedient of Ray reading the script narrative, while
.....lee Ballew simply kept repeating "Schenectady, Schenectady,
Schenectady" over and over.  Try it - it works, if you can keep from
getting tongue-tied!

Lee Munsick

Actually I think the bit you are referring to was taken from one of their
equally amusing Mary Backstage, Noble Wife extended stories where the troupe
of players (isn't it odd how you can think of them being a troupe of players
when in fact all the characters emitted out of two guys?...and did they
perform all their skits live? That's doubly amazing that they rarely seemed
to forget who was [removed] that did happen on occasion)...anyway,
where was I? Oh yes, Mary and Co. were riding on a train back up to New York
City for the debut of their film "Treasure Island" after having spent some
time being shanghied by pirates and then being set adrift in a dingy only to
finally be rescued by a Soviet fishing trawler and returned to Boston.
Technically of course these came from the series they did in the mid 1970s
(that is sort of old time radio I suppose). I love all the references to
there being no gas and their impersonations of Richard Nixon as the evil
station manager. Obviously they must not have been big fans of Tricky Dick.

But the "Schenectady"-part was actually the "town caller" making his rounds
on the train telling all the passengers where they were. It's been such a
long time since I have traveled by train that one forgets that little
service they used to provide. Wish they did that on buses. I've slept right
through stops on several occasions.

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