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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 124


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Superman / PEP
	 Ovaltine and the Captain
	 RE:  Cincy convention!
	 By [removed]
	 The Lodger -Reply
	 Early station lists, articles
	 Dual Cassette Decks
	 RE: The Lodger
	 RE Theater 5
	 I Stand Corrected & Thanks
	 More Ovaltine
	 The Lodger
	 OLD TIME RADIO ON SATELLITE?
	 Jack Benny Documentary
	 Re: Cincy convention
	 Vertical recording
	 Re: Favorite Gunsmoke

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:01:08 -0800 (PST)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Superman / PEP
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

No comments from me on Ovaltine.
I was more likely to be found trying to soak a graham
cracker in milk to the point where it became too saturated
and broke off. Lost points if it did.
My best friend liked soda crackers, a knife, and a pound
of butter.
Our version of paradise was a small grocery with a huge
comic book rack in back (EC Vault of Horror, war comics, etc.)
and a soda fountain up front. A chocolate shake made with
ice milk was 25 cents. A sour roll, mayo, and a bit of salami
was another 25 cents. Tis the rare king who had it better.

Now [removed] your reference library. On the west coast
Superman was sponsored by PEP. It was killed off eventually.
Anyone know anything about it?

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:32:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Don Strong <dons@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ovaltine and the Captain
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I first heard Captain Midnight late one night in the early 70s on an AM 
station out of the Abbotsford, [removed] area. The DJ there would play an 
episode of a serial every weekday.

Anyway, a few days later I saw Ovaltine in the grocery store and decided 
to give it a try - and immediatly hated the stuff!

Imagine how I felt last month when my wife brought home a "real treat" - 
a BIG jar of Ovaltine! She convinced me to try one of her favorite 
snacks; ice cream covered with a sprinkling of Ovaltine.

Now that's the way to enjoy it. Amazingly good!

==============================================================================
  Don Strong                                         email dons@[removed]

     An object at rest - can't be stopped!  -- TEMBWBaM

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:23:10 -0500
From: Matthew561@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE:  Cincy convention!
Message-ID: <960403162308_504885986@mail04>

On 4-02-96 Randy Minnehan asked:

 RM> So, I need directions, and let's see 
 RM> who's attending from here?

Sorry, cn't help with the directions, but my wife and I are planning 
to attend.  It will be our first OTR convention and I am looking 
forward to it.


Matthew Mark Drew
matthew561@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:18:10 -0500
From: Ted McKay <tmckay@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: By [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

A few days ago someone requested some detail on vertical transcriptions,
and I'm assuming that person meant the 33 1/3 rpm 16 inch discs used by
radio stations and not the Edison-type cylinders Roy Trumbull talked
about. Transcriptions for the use of radio stations were the only means
of quality music reproduction in the 30's and 40's.  16 inches in
diameter and pressed on vinyl, they offered a fairly high quality, low
noise alternative to scratchy 78's and could hold 15 or 16 minutes of
music.  On verticals the sound was in a "hill and valley" format, while
laterals were cut on a flat plane with side to side movements of the
recording stylus. The The quality on verticals was far superior to the
standard or lateral cut, especially at the inner grooves, and in the
early days of FM they provided stations with a true High Fidelity sound.
 I remember one station had a program called "MUSIC IN TECHNICOLOR."
(the title was used with the permission of the Technicolor Company)  I
knew of only two services that used the vertical method: Associated and
World.  Others I worked with, Langworth, Standard, Thesaurus and later
Capitol were all lateral cut.  The groves were standard width (3 mil at
that time) and a single transcription arm with a selector switch was
used at most stations to play both types. The most popular was the RCA
16 inch arm which had several positions in both vertical and lateral
modes to compensate for tone variations. (similar to the early RIAA, LP
and NEW ORTHOPHONIC settings on early HI FI preamps)  Another note about
transcription libraries:  They were LEASED, not purchased by the
stations, and the companies guarded them to such an extent that when a
replacement was needed the worn or damaged disc would have to be
returned before a new one was sent!  New discs and titles were provided
to subscribers on a regular basis. Since most transcription companies
were owned by or had working agreements with major record companies it
was not unusual for an artist to cut two different versions of a song,
one for the transcription service and the other for release on 78's, but
more often than not material on ET's was not available on 78's.
Listeners seemed to have a difficult time differentiating between
records and transcriptions, sometimes chasing all over town looking for
a song they had heard on the air. What they had heard was an ET and had
never been released as a single!  Those of us on the air loved the
ET'[removed] the long cuts like Manhattan Tower and Freedom Train,
since these cuts of 10 minutes or more were ideal for taking care of
life's unexpected emergencies!  With the development of the microgroove
process and larger selections of material on 45's and LP's in the early
50's the cumbersome 16 inch ET was on its way to extinction.

Ted McKay
Cincinnati, Ohio

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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:34:11 -0700
From: CHCOX@[removed] (Chet Cox)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lodger -Reply
Message-ID: <[removed]@fromGW>

<<Does anyone know if there is a radio version of Marie Lowndes story
"The    Lodger" (based  on Jack the Ripper)? And if so where can I get a
copy? I know that it    has been made into a couple of excellent movies   
(Hitchcock's 26 silent version, and the 40's edition starring Laird   
Creiger), you would think a radio    version exists.

 Thanks,

 Norm

 stringen@[removed]>>

There is at least one _very_ good version of "the Lodger" from
SUSPENSE, 14 Feb 48, starring Robert Montgomery.  My wife gave it to
me for Christmas (along with about 100 hours of OTR) and she got it
from Radio Spirits.  Jim Harmon may also have it, at a slightly cheaper
price, but I don't remember seeing it in his catalog.

*jeep!

~Chet

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 20:19 CST
From: JeffM@[removed] (Jeff Miller)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Early station lists, articles
Message-Id: <m0u4edb-000Y87C@[removed]>

I have scanned several old lists of U. S. radio stations, as well as
several articles about early radio.  They are currently available by
FTP from [removed] in the /radio directory.  You should log in as
anonymous and use your e-mail address as the password.

Some of the lists are in comma-delimited format, designed to be
imported into a database program.  The recommended files are as
follows:

1925AMX .ZIP   6,377  U. S. radio stations 6/30/25
1926CAN .ZIP   1,242  Canadian stations, comma-delimited, 1926
1928AM  .ZIP  14,513  U. S. radio stations, comma-delimited, 1928
1939APX .ZIP   1,558  U. S. apex radio stations (some were FM)
1946YBK .ZIP   1,916  U. S. FM stations from 1946 Bcg. Yearbook
1947TV  .ZIP   1,145  U. S. TV stations
1970    .ZIP  40,662  Chronology from 1970 Broadcasting magazine
[removed]   6,370  Items from "Famous First Facts" book
[removed]   3,759  Radio covers the 1965 blackout
CHRONO1 .ZIP  39,937  Jeff Miller compilation of dates to 1930
FM1     .ZIP  11,657  Early FM articles
KDKA1   .ZIP   7,133  KDKA article
NYCFM1  .ZIP   1,333  Compilation of New York FM call letters
WCBS1   .ZIP   2,948  WCBS article (had the call WABC at the time)
WFLA1   .ZIP  16,578  WGHB/WFHH/WFLA and WSUN timeline and articles
WHO1ST  .ZIP  11,640  Two articles -- which station was first?
WLW1    .ZIP  11,807  WLW article on 500 kw operation

Jeff Miller
JeffM@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:57:37 -0500
From: ERICKZIN@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dual Cassette Decks
Message-ID: <960403215706_505159742@[removed]>

Any recommendations on good but not expensive dual cassette players for
playing, recording, dubbing [removed] OTR shows. Any recommendations on how to
go about recording OTR shows for the personal library?

Thanks

Carl

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:08:28 PST
From: passage@[removed] (Frank M Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: The Lodger
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,

Norm Stringer wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is a radio version of Marie Lowndes story "The   
> Lodger" (based on Jack the Ripper)? And if so where can I get a copy? I 
> know that it has been made into a couple of excellent movies (Hitchcock's 
> 26 silent version, and the 40's edition starring Laird Creiger), you would 
> think a radio version exists.

I'm not sure if it's the same, but FORECAST: "The Lodger", 07-22-40, was
directed by Mr. Hitchcock.  That was a preview of SUSPENSE.  In the SUSPENSE
run it appeared twice more, on 12-14-44 and 02-14-48.  As for who carries it,
check with:

       AVPRO, [removed] Box 1392, Lake Elsinore, CA 92531-1393
       BRC Productions, PO Box 2645, Livonia, MI 48151-0645
       Carr, Edward J., 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19513
       Radio Showcase, [removed] Box 4357, Santa Rosa, CA 95403

Each may not carry all 3, but it's a start.  There may be other series that
featured it, and there are scores of other vendors:-).

Frank

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:09:16 PST
From: passage@[removed] (Frank M Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE Theater 5
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,

Bill Scherer wrote: 

> The other day I suddenly remembered a program I used to listen to in the 
> mid 60's on my local university radio station.  It was called Theater 5. 
> <snip> I was wondering if any of the programs are available?

First, some info:

  THEATER 5 was ABC's attempt to revive radio drama during the early 
  60's.  Running Monday throuth Friday, it was an anthology of short 
  stories, each about 20 minutes long, not including commercials. 

  Fred Foy, of THE LONE RANGER fame, was an ABC staff announcer in the 
  early '60s who (among other duties) did THEATER 5.

I've seen these shows listed in a number of catalogs, such as Ed Carr's
and Radio Showcase. There's appearently a lot around.

Frank

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:07:05 -0500
From: Dreammac@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: Dreammac@[removed]
Subject: I Stand Corrected & Thanks
Message-ID: <960403220704_263562801@[removed]>

In a message dated 96-04-01 17:24:33 EST, Mr. John Henley writes:

>If I may offer a correction:  Howard Koch died towards the end of August,
>1995.  I don't believe David was on the list at that time (I don't think I
>was, either) and so may have missed any discussion held here.



Mr. Henley;
Your correction is well taken and in order. I have a pile of [removed] Times that
ranges from 2 to 3 feet  at any one time. After whittling down and
rearranging the pile two weeks a go, obviously an old issue became mixed with
recent issues without my knowledge. Frankly I had no idea that some of these
issues were so old. You took me by surprise when you mentioned that he had
died in August. I felt like I was in the twilight zone. I went through my
stack last night and sure enough issues from last August and September came
to the fore. Just to be sure, I called the [removed] Times and queried them about
Mr. Koch's date of expiration. Believe it or not, they told me that their
records only went back two months. Next I called the Writers Guild West. No
problema! They told me that Mr. Koch died August 17, 1995, which confirms
what you said. Strange, I was on the list at the time but do not remember any
mention of Mr. Koch. If that event did take place, I'd better get tested for
incipient Alzeimers. 

Peace, David MacMurray


Mr. Chester Cox writes;
In his book THE PANIC BROADCAST, Koch himself tells us that the 
concept of modernizing it and using broadcast simulation was 
Welles.

Thanks for the elucidation. The approach smacks of the Welles touch

Peace, David MacMurray

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:25:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Ward <jward@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: More Ovaltine
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I know this Ovaltine thread is getting out of hand, but I could not 
resist a little "piling on."

For those in the group who want to taste Ovaltine in its more distant, 
original flavor, The Vermont Country Store offers an imported European 
Ovaltine that contains less sugar and more malt, tasting "more like the 
original Ovaltine we remember."

No, I don't work at Vermont Country Store and own no stock in Ovaltine.  I
merely provide this information for the use of my Ovaltine-deprived
friends of otr (or Europeans living abroad).  Email me privately if you
want their number. 

Joe Ward

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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 11:07:06 +0500
From: cbholm@[removed] (chris holm)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The Lodger
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Norm Stringer>
>>
 Does anyone know if there is a radio version of Marie Lowndes story "The
Lodger" (based on Jack the Ripper)? And if so where can I get a copy? I know
that it has been made into a couple of excellent movies (Hitchcock's 26
silent version, and the 40's edition starring Laird Creiger), you would
think a radio version exists.
>>
  
  Yes, I'm sure there are several [removed] the one that springs to mind
is the July 22, 1940 episode of Suspense.  In fact, it was Suspense's
Audition show.  As to where you can get it, I know the Radio Spirts Catalog
has it, and others probably do too.

chris

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:01:20 -0500
From: NOSTALGIA1@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OLD TIME RADIO ON SATELLITE?
Message-ID: <960403230118_461957248@[removed]>

Would someone give me the specifics of old radio shows being broadcast on a
satellite?

Thank you!

Bruce Kalver
nostalgia1@[removed]

Be sure to check out my Nostalgia Times Radio Programme Web page at:

[removed]

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:07:19 -0500
From: DavidLHsl@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny Documentary
Message-ID: <960403230719_505219738@[removed]>

  I rent a Primestar satellite dish, and I noticed this in this month's
program guide (note: times listed are Eastern Standard Time):

Jack Benny: Comedy in Bloom
(Documentary)  Tom Smothers narrates this affectionate portrait of the master
funnyman, including interviews with Bob Hope and Johnny Carson. (1992) (1
hour)
HBO E: Apr 18 (1:30p); 24 (12:00p); 28 (7:00a)
HBO2E: Apr 4 (1:00p); 14 (11:00a)

  I think this is the same special I saw about half a year ago, and it is
worth checking into if you get HBO.

David Hassell
(Riley and Gillis hiding in a closet to spy on Babs and her boyfriend)
Gillis:  It's stuffy in here.  I can hardly breathe.
Riley:  You're right.  I'll inhale and you exhale.

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 00:30:59 EST
From: BWWG42A@[removed] (MR JACK L PALMER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cincy convention
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Jack Palmer * [removed] #[removed] ] --

Randy,
	I'll be there for my 5th year.  To get to the Marriott from I-71, exit
to I-275 going west,  then exit again to I-75 going south.  Exit from I-
75 at Sharon Road.  Go right, or west to first light, turn right again
on Chester Road and drive north until you see it on the right.  OK?  
Hope this helps.    Jack Palmer

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:36:30 -0500 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Vertical recording
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:09:01 -0600 (CST)
> From: shoshani@[removed] (Michael Shoshani)
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: Re: Ovaltine AND Vertical Recording
> Message-Id: <m0u4JsT-000YEWC@[removed]>
> 
> Vertical recording had a small but fiercely loyal following, especially
> in the acoustic era.  And for very good reasons.  

If vertical recording was so much better, why did lateral recording catch 
on?  Did it have advantages of its own?

======================================================================
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
======================================================================

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:17:34 -0500
From: BULLFROG2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Favorite Gunsmoke
Message-ID: <960404091732_462179708@[removed]>

Although its hard to find a bad episode of Gunsmoke, two of my favorites are 
The Lynching (1-9-54) and
The Killer (2-13-54)

I hope your question gets some more responses - I would like to add a few
more outstanding Gunsmokes to my collection.

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