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Date: 6/15/2004 10:18 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 203
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Australian OTR Website                [ "Austotr" <austotr@[removed]; ]
      HGWT - pilot                          [ Pete <pappleyard_ca@[removed]; ]
      Performers that went into politics    [ "D. Fisher" <dfisher@[removed]; ]
      Bowes and Mary Lee Taylor             [ vigor16@[removed] ]
      Re: MP-3 Plyer                        [ "barry" <barry@[removed]; ]
      6-15 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      FDR funeral/Arthur Godfrey            [ chris chandler <chrischandler84@yah ]
      Cassette racks and GREEN HORNET comi  [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
      Entertainers who went into politics   [ "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed]; ]
      Nuremberg Radio                       [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Pizza roll commercial                 [ "Harry R. Keller" <hrkeller@earthli ]
      Looking for King Kong                 [ "Steve Cottle, Jr" <ilovecomix@yaho ]
      Hi Yo Pizza Roll!                     [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
      The Lone Ranger -- on other programs  [ "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@6 ]
      Performers in Politics                [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Re: MP3 Player                        [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      Burnable discs                        [ Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu ]

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:22:41 -0400
    From: "Austotr" <austotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Australian OTR Website

    G'Day Folks,

    The Australian Old Time Radio Group of collectors and researchers are proud
    to announce the launch of [removed]

    The site will operate along a magazine style and the articles will be
    changed regularly as well as new material being constantly added.

    The site brings you our live database in which we add information as we
    discover it.  You can search for Series, Production houses as well as
    people.  We have databased over 3,158 different Australian series and
    serials.  You can email us via the site and ask questions or to add
    information.  In the case of questions, we will do our best to find the
    information you are after.

    We have come a long way in the last couple of years, in documenting
    Australian OTR and to supply that information to interested people.  I hope
    you enjoy the use of the site.  Please supply feedback as well as
    information and questions.

    Ian Grieve
    Moderator
    Australian Old Time Radio Group (AOTRG)

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:23:02 -0400
    From: Pete <pappleyard_ca@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  HGWT - pilot

    Does anyone have the November 12th, 1958 Pilot show
    from Have Gun Will Travel on cassette and would be
    willing to sell it to my father-in-law. His e-mail
    address is    gcoppen@[removed]
    Thanks again
    Pete

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:57:55 -0400
    From: "D. Fisher" <dfisher@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Performers that went into politics

    George Murphy, song & dance man & actor, on radio & in the movies, became a
    Senator from California.

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:35:16 -0400
    From: vigor16@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bowes and Mary Lee Taylor

    Hi all,

    I was listening to FM&M Pet milk programs the other day and heard ads for
    the Mary Lee Taylor program.  I did a Google search and found the recipes
    and cookbooks still acquirable.  My question has always been, since I
    have been a big FM&M fan is, are any of those programs they promo in
    circulation?  For those who don't know, on FM&M at the end of the
    broadcast, Harlo gives a brief synopsis of the up-in-coming Saturday
    norning ep of MLT sponsored by Pet Milk.

    question 2: Being a long time lover of Amateur programs, I wonder how
    many Major Bowes or any other amateur shows are in circulation.  I have
    only 1, I believe the 1939 broadcast featuring the hew line of cars in
    Detroit.   I was told that there are few and most of them are bad
    quality.  Any of you collectors know better than my source?  Thanks for
    your time and any help is appreciated.

    Deric

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:35:44 -0400
    From: "barry" <barry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: MP-3 Plyer

>     Check out Durabrand Model Cd-208 at Wall Mart.

    Will it resume?  When you turn it off will it restart where you left off?

    Barry

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:35:51 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  6-15 births/deaths

    June 15th births

    06-15-1861 - Ernestine Schumann-Heink - Prague, Czechoslovkia - d. 11-17-1936
    singer: "Enna Jettick Melodies"; "Hoover Sentinels Serenade"
    06-15-1894 - Leo Cleary - MA - d. 4-11-1955
    actor: Bailiff "His Honor, the Barber"
    06-15-1909 - Joe De Santis - NYC - d. 8-30-1989
    actor: Jim Scott "Under Arrest"
    06-15-1909 - Joseph Desantis - NYC - d. 8-30-1989
    actor: Jim Scott "Under Arrest"; "This Is Nora Drake"
    06-15-1910 - David Rose - London, England - d. 8-23-1990
    conductor: "Red Skelton Show"; "David Rose Show"; "Bold Venture"
    06-15-1921 - Erroll Garner - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-2-1977
    jazz muscian: "Jubilee"; "Command Performance"; "Arthur Godfrey Show"
    06-15-1929 - Lucille Norman - Lincoln, NE
    singer: "Time, the Place and the Tune"; "Railroad Hour"

    June 15th deaths

    04-25-1918 - Ella Fitzgerald - Newport News, VA - d. 6-15-1996
    singer: "Flow Gently, Sweet Rhythm"; "Jubilee"
    05-18-1902 - Meredith Willson - Mason City, IA - d. 6-15-1984
    conductor, composer: "Maxwell House Coffee Time"; "Meredith Willson/Music Room"
    05-25-1917 - Steve Cochran - Eureka, CA - d. 6-15-1965
    actor: "Voice of the Army"; "Unexpected"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    06-12-1884 - William Austin - Georgetown, British Guiana - d. 6-15-1975
    actor: Professor of the English Department "Jack Oakie's College"
    07-18-1911 - Hume Cronyn - London, Ontario, Canada - d. 6-15-2003
    actor: Ben Marriott "Marriage"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:38:51 -0400
    From: chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FDR funeral/Arthur Godfrey

    Reading about Arthur Godfrey's famous FDR cortege
    broadcast, I wondered if there's any evidence this
    legendary, oft-heard clip is any more authentic than
    any of the other news material on the "I Can Hear It
    Now" album.

    I don't mean to imply the incident didn't happen.  But
    as we know, all the main ICHIN 'news items' were
    actually re-creations, even when the original source
    material did exist.  And Godfrey died long before this
    was common knowledge, and before some of the 'guilty'
    parties (like Bob Trout) confessed the truth.  So
    anybody know for sure?

    -----

    Also, in response to the other questions about FDR
    death coverage, a good bit of it was preserved, both
    in the National Archives and through various other
    sources.  I suspect the LOC has at least some NBC
    material (anybody know?); clips from it were used in
    the 1976 "First Fabulous Fifty" anniversary
    retrospective.

    FDR's death was the first time the radio networks
    abandoned regular programs--and commercials--for
    several days running.  The early hours were frenzied
    (you can hear obvious pandemonium in the newsroom
    behind the NBC announcer, and the Mutual net's early
    effort is just an unmitigated, big old mess), but the
    nets prevented total chaos by putting into effect the
    elaborate plans they'd been quietly making to cover
    the approaching German surrender.

    Lee M. mentioned the somber, generally positive tone
    of the Reagan coverage.  This, too, was on display in
    1945, though here it sometimes seemed less a matter of
    good taste than simple hero-worship.  One Mutual
    commentator referred to Roosevelt as "the greatest man
    who ever lived", and a critical listener searched in
    vain that first night for the barest mention of the
    Yalta concessions (which were already controversial,
    make no mistake), or the Supreme Court "packing"
    episode, or Roosevelt's surprisingly narrow
    popular-vote win in 1944.  Fulton Lewis, Jr. seemed to
    strike just the right tone, coming right out and
    saying hey, not everybody voted for this guy, but this
    is still a moment of great national mourning.  It rang
    truer than praising every breath the man had ever
    taken, especially in Lewis' case; I was reminded of
    this during the past week, while watching some of the
    previously, perenially-critical network anchors now
    heaping unqualified praise on Reagan.  It just didn't
    quite seem credible coming from some of them; they
    chould have taken a lesson from Fulton Lewis!

    The other similarity came in the coverage of the
    funeral cortege--it sounded exactly as you'd imagine a
    radio version of this past weeks' events would sound:
    drums, soldiers marching, [removed] by
    commentators who at times struggled to keep their
    composure.  Arthur Godfrey's wasn't the only
    near-meltdown that day; one Mutual commentator
    sudddenly broke into a spontaneous, full-voice
    recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance!

    Biggest difference in the coverage of Reagan and
    Roosevelt:  while Lee correctly points out that each
    era's broadcasters put the full depth and maturity of
    their capablities on display, it's also true that
    radio was still a slightly-poorer media stepchild even
    as late as 1945.  No broadcasts were allowed of Harry
    Truman's swearing-in; or of the private funeral
    service; no live remotes were allowed even from the
    White House press room the night of FDR's death.
    Mutual's Walter Compton ran afoul of this prohibition,
    only to be yelled at, live on the air, by a
    burly-sounding White House flunky--"I TOLD you there
    ain't NO broadcastin' from this WHITE House tonight!".
     Several on-air apologies for this incident are
    offered later ("you may be reading about this in the
    paper [removed]"), and poor Compton, on what should
    have been the biggest night of his career, is still so
    flustered hours later that he refers to Roosevelt as
    "Mr. White House!"  Such are the perils of live
    [removed]

    chris

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:49:33 -0400
    From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cassette racks and GREEN HORNET comic book

    Does anybody have a copy of the golden age GREEN HORNET #43?  I need to get
    some interior scans from it.

    Also, could the nice folks who shipped me the wooden cassette racks contact
    me?  I lost your address when my laptop died.

    In either case, please contact me offlist. --Anthony Tollin

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:13:49 -0400
    From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Entertainers who went into politics

    Since the San Fernando Valley is made up of numerous small "towns", but few
    are municipalities of their own, they often had well-known personages
    elected as mayors and other officials.  It was an honorary position.

    Actor Howard Culver was voted in as Mayor of Sun Valley, California, and
    appeared at Sun Valley functions, etc. much as a "regular" mayor of a city
    would do. Politics had nothing to do with it.  The Sonny Bono case was
    different, I believe, and he was actually the mayor.

    Lois Culver

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:34:49 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Nuremberg Radio
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html

       From Bernard Wichert in Germany - his comments:
       Re: Nuremberg Radio
       Hallo Pete,
       if you find anything of what you are looking for, let me know in any
       case. Not one recording of what you are looking for has survived the
       war- if there has been any at all !
       Station Nuremberg  depended on Reichs Station Munich and was a more or
       less local broadcasting station. It only wnet Germany-wide when it was
       combined with lots of other Reichs Stations during the Nuremberg
       rallys.
       The Nuremberg trials were broadcast by radio Munich as an Allied
       Station
       (American), just like Radio Hamburg (British).
       The Reichsrundfunk-Gesellschaft (Reichs Broadcasting Co) as head of
       all
       stations collected the most interesting discs (shellac, decelith
       foils,
       tapes in later years), yet about 80-90% of all recordings have not
       survived the end of the war. (air raids, looting, V-booty etc). You
       should knock on the Library of Congress' , National Archives' doors or
       in Moscow. Maybe you find there what you are searching.
       Best
       Bernard Wichert, Germany

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:34:57 -0400
    From: "Harry R. Keller" <hrkeller@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Pizza roll commercial

    Wasn't OTR regular Barny Phillips the cigarette company guy on the commercial?

    Bob Keller
    Waukesha, Wisc.

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:35:18 -0400
    From: "Steve Cottle, Jr" <ilovecomix@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Looking for King Kong
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

    Does anyone have old King Kong shows,  I am looking for a few ,  Though and
    i am mainly looking for

    King Kong 02/10/1933 NBC [ad for movie] 30 minutes

    Thanks in advance

    please send anything you have to my [removed] account.  my id is lilreader

    thank you so much

    "I Love Old Comix & OTR" - Steve Cottle, Jr
    <[removed];[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:21:05 -0400
    From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Hi Yo Pizza Roll!

    At least one of the Jeno's Pizza Roll commercials
    Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels did can be seen
    (along with other commercials for other products) on
    "The Lone Ranger: The Lost episodes" videotape by
    Goodtimes (by now, there's probably a DVD version,
    too).

    The tape also includes two TV episodes with original
    commercials, highlights of the Lee Powell serial, and
    other picture postcards.

    Rick

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:26:35 -0400
    From: "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger -- on other programs

    I'm trying to locate a couple of programs which featured Brace Beemer as
    a guest on other shows.  In one, Beemer appeared on Duffy's Tavern.  I
    believe the date was Feb. 2, 1943.  In another, a television show,
    Beemer appeared as the  myster guest on "I've Got a Secret."  I believe
    it was Jim Nixon who pointed out this appearance in a post about a year
    ago.

    Also -- and I posted this a few years ago -- I believe there was a
    television show broadcast in the Detroit area about 25 years ago.  It
    was on the history of "The Lone Ranger" program and featured interviews
    with cast members.  It MAY have been on PBS, but I am not certain.  Any
    leads?

    Does anyone have copies of these which I could beg, buy or trade for?
    Contact me off-line.  Thanks very much.

    Fred Hillman

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:59:34 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Performers in Politics

>     Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:50:55 -0400
>     From: wilditralian@[removed]

>     Doug Berryhill mentioned that Bud Abbott become mayor of a town in
>     California, and wondered if there were any other media performers who had
>     similar success after their careers had faded.

>     Well, how many of you remember that Andy Devine was mayor of Van Nuys,
>     California during his tenure as a semi-regular on The Jack Benny Program?

    I've heard that some performers were made "honorary mayor" of some place or other, and I'm
    wondering if that's what was really going on here.  It's hard to see how Bud Abbott or Andy
    Devine could have the time to be both mayor of a community and performer.

    Some politicians have made guest appearances on one show or other -- Boston Mayor Ray
    Flynn and House Speaker Tip O'Neill both appeared on "Cheers" and Governor Dukakis
    appeared on "St. Elsewhere."  There was also a sitcom in the late 60s called "The Governor
    and JJ" about the governor of an unspecified state and his grown daughter.  Almost every
    episode of that show featured some real-life governor dropping by.

    Governor Ronald Reagan made at least one appearance on a Jack Benny special, and it
    wouldn't surprise me if he made others.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:32:18 -0400
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: MP3 Player

    On 6/14/2004, Bernie wrote:

>     For anyone interested in an inexpensive MP-3 Player. Check out Durabrand Model
>     Cd-208 at Wall Mart. $[removed] It has played every MP-3 have tried. Even low bit
>     rates.

    The CD-208 is a table radio with CD/MP3 player. It has an AM/FM radio, but
    no cassette player.

    I have been living with mine for about three weeks now. There are several
    CD's it will not play or starts to play and hits a snag on one of the
    programs. I have not made any sense out of these problem CDs other than to
    confirm it happens every time in the same place. It does work and you can
    leave it in pause mode indefinitely so there is a kind of erzots resume
    mode. Also Bernie is correct in that it seems to play all bit rates with
    the exception that some things don't play as mentioned above.

    Also, it  plays programs in either the MS-DOS short filename alpha order or
    the order they were burned on the CD, which is not always the same as the
    long filename alpha order.

    The price is right though and I do like it overall.

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:32:40 -0400
    From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Burnable discs

    For those who are concerned about how long CDs and
    DVDs that they have burned will last, I recommend an
    article found at:

    [removed],aid,116473,[removed]

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