Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #21
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Date: 1/20/2005 1:03 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 21
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  WLS "Standby"                         [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
  1-20 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  The Golden Age that almost never was  [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
  Re: Jeopardy                          [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  Elliott Lewis                         [ Gayland Darnell <hankie01@[removed] ]
  "The Thing"                           [ Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; ]
  Atom Man [removed]                       [ Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon. ]
  HELP                                  [ "janice vegas" <amandakayla@[removed] ]
  Bing Crosby 1942                      [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]
  1935 Lone Ranger serial on eBay       [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
  Jungle Jim                            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  The end of August Heat                [ Lilah60@[removed] ]
  Unheard Characters                    [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
  Bullard wife                          [ "William Schell" <bschell@[removed] ]
  re: When I listen to OTR              [ "John, Ann and/or Kate" <jakdresden ]
  Fr. Peyton and Family Theater         [ Mkerezman@[removed] ]
  Recommendations on MP3 download site  [ Rich Zahradnik <rich@doverinternet. ]

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:04:21 -0500
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  WLS "Standby"

I am looking for CERTAIN issues of the WLS weekly "Standby" magazine
published in the mid 1930s.

Please contact me offlist. Thanks!!

BILL KNOWLTON: "Bluegrass Ramble," WCNY-FM ([removed]) Syracuse, WUNY ([removed])
Utica; WJNY ([removed]) Watertown NY. On the web: [removed]. Sundays: 9 pm to
midnight EST (since 1973)

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:04:28 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1-20 births/deaths

January 20th births

01-20-1878 - Finlay Currie - Edinburgh, Scotland - d. 5-9-1968
actor: John H. Watson "BBC Home Theatre"
01-20-1894 - Harold Gray - Kankakee, IL - d. 5-9-1968
cartoonist: Creater of "Little Orphan Annie"
01-20-1896 - George Burns - NYC - d. 3-9-1996
comedian: "Burns and Allen"
01-20-1896 - Rolfe Sedan - NYC - d. 9-15-1982
actor: "Escape"; "Suspense"; "Mystery in the Air"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-20-1898 - Tudor Owen - Wales, UK - d. 3-13-1979
actor: Jocko Madigan "Pat Novak for Hire"; Editor "Alias Jane Doe"
01-20-1899 - Joseph Buloff - Vilnius, Lithuania - d. 2-27-1985
actor: Barney Glass "House of Glass"
01-20-1900 - Colin Clive - [removed], France - d. 6-26-1937
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
01-20-1903 - Leon Ames - Portland, IN - d. 10-10-1993
actor: "Earplay"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
01-20-1907 - L. A. "Speed" Riggs - Silverdale, NC - d. 2-1-1987
tobacco auctioneer: "Jack Benny Show"; "Kay Kyser Show"
01-20-1914 - Roy Plomley - Kingston-upon-Thames, England - d. 5-28-1985
announcer: Desert Island Discs"; "We Beg to Differ"; "One Minute Please"
01-20-1920 - DeForest Kelley - Atlanta, GA - d. 6-11-1999
actor: "Suspense"
01-20-1922 - Connie Haines - Savannah, GA
singer: "Abbott and Costello Show"; "Rhapsody in Rhythm"
01-20-1926 - Patricia Neal - Packard, KY
actress: "Hollywood Star Preview"

January 20th deaths

02-18-1903 - Jacques Fray - Paris, France - d. 1-20-1963
pianist, disc jockey: "Fray and Braggiotti"
04-06-1927 - Gerry Mulligan - NYC - d. 1-20-1996
jazz saxophonist: "Sound of Jazz"; "White House Jazz Festival"; "Voice of
Vista"
05-03-1880 - Horace Murphy - Finley, TN - d. 1-20-1975
actor: Buckskin Blodgett "Red Ryder"
05-04-1929 - Audrey Hepburn - Brussels, Belguim - d. 1-20-1993
actress: "[removed] Story"; "Stagestruck"
05-29-1894 - Beatrice Lillie - Toronto, Canada - d. 1-20-1989
commedienne: "Beatrice Lillie Show"
07-11-1922 - Bernard Punsly - NYC - d. 1-20-2004
actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"
07-16-1907 - Barbara Stanwyck - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-20-1990
actress: "Prudential Family Hour of Stars"; "This Is My Story"
11-14-1906 - Mercer McCloud - d. 1-20-1993
actor: Fran Cummings "Second Husband"
12-05-1922 - Alan Freed - Johnstown, PA - d. 1-20-1965
disc jockey: "Moondog Show"; "Alan Freed Show"; "Camel Rock and Roll Party"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:04:46 -0500
From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Golden Age that almost never was

  This paragraph from "Fred Allen: His Life and Wit"
by Robert Taylor offers something to ponder:
    "... Video seemed imminet in 1932; CBS had a
regular program schedule for an estimated nine
thousand television receivers in metropolitan New
York, while NBC had established a station atop the
Empire State Building. 'The most prevalent explanation
for delaying television was engineering difficulties,'
states William Hawes, a scholar of primitive video,
but the Depression was the true overriding factor. 'If
it had not been for the nation's financial crisis, the
public might have had television by 1933, and radio
might not have become as prominent as it did.'"

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:05:05 -0500
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Jeopardy

The other day on Jeopardy, one of the subjects was OTR and nobody got any
of the answers correct. In fact they left the last question in the list. I
would have liked to have heard what it was.

Fred

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:05:27 -0500
From: Gayland Darnell <hankie01@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Elliott Lewis
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Hello again [removed]

I wanted to write and thank Michael Guccione for providing the internet
address to find a picture of Elliott Lewis.  Does he look like I thought he
would?    No, not really.  About the only people I have found that look like
they sound are Jack Benny, George Burns, and Gracie Allen.  But, I know that
is because I was born in 1951, and saw them on television, so I saw them
before I heard their otr programs.

The first time I saw pictures of Fibber McGee and Molly, I thought, "Man, I
would have NEVER thought they looked like that!"  They didn't look [removed]
they certainly did not fit the "picture" I had of them in my head.

Also, I wanted to thank Dan Hughes for asking his question regarding Franky
Remley and Elliott Lewis.  Now I'm REALLY [removed]  were Franky Remley and
Elliott Lewis 2 separate people originally?  I know that on the Harris-Faye
show Elliott Lewis played the part of Franky Remley, but was there a REAL
Franky Remley on the Jack Benny show?  If so, does anyone have a picture of
him?  I have to admit that Elliott Lewis is my favorite character on any of
the shows.   I wish I were cool enough to have his perspective on life.  One
of the funniest shows I ever heard is when Phil Harris answers the door at
his home and Franky is all excited He tells Phil Harris he has found the
perfect cure for a hangover.  He explained that "...you just take a bottle of
bourbon and add 2 aspirins."  You have to admit old Franky had his priorities
in the right place.  If you ever needed anything, he always "knew a guy."

I guess I was just born 20 years too late.  I would have loved to have heard
these programs broadcast originally.  But, then I wouldn't have had the
advantages of MP3, etc.  I guess the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
But, I do wish Mr. Elliott was still around so I could send him a letter,
letting him know how much pleasure he still brings to listeners.

Happy listening!

Gayland Darnell

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:05:59 -0500
From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "The Thing"
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Jello Again!  I read an article that said they thought that Phil Harris
record ,"The Thing" was a take off on the Sc-Fi movie that came out right
about that time, called "The Thing" ( From Another World) starring Kenneth
Tobey, James Arness (The Thing), and a very young George Fenneman, the
announcer on  the radio & TV Dragnet, and the radio versions of You Bet Your
Life and [removed] don't know for sure or not , not having that article with
me at the moment. But it sounds plausible to [removed] don't remember if the
movie, " The Thing" came out before the song or not.  Bob Slate

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:06:51 -0500
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Atom Man [removed]

 > I listen to tapes on a walkman. Currently Atom Man vs. Superman and
 > Frank [removed]

Wow, Superman and Frank Sinatra teaming up.  I missed that series.
Darn!! <g>

-- Alan

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:18:44 -0500
From: "janice vegas" <amandakayla@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  HELP

I have a few old time radio tapes(Jack Benny, Amos and Andy, Burns and Allen)
that I taped from the radio many years ago. I listen to them at night to sleep
by. I need to get more tapes as these are wearing out.  Stores don't have them
on cassettes anymore and I don't know what radio station to listen to them on.
I sure could use help in finding the radio station in my area (Placerville,
CA) or if someone could tell me where I may purchase  CD's (I could play them
on the computer) or cassettes.  Thank you for any help you can give.  Or is
this a thing of the past like the manual typewriter (not possible to obtain).

[ADMINISTRIVIA: Suggest you contact this poster directly with your
suggestions and corrections.  --cfs3]

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:18:57 -0500
From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bing Crosby 1942

A Vermont friend of mine collects "Everything Crosby" and he's looking for a
copy of a 1942 broadcast of the Kraft Music Hall, on December 25th with Bing
Crosby.  Bing introduced and sang a new song for the first time on that
program called "White Christmas."  This was five months before his first
Decca recording of the classic and months before he started filming "Holiday
Inn."  Is that Kraft Music Hall show available in anyone's collection to
share?  Replies offline appreciated.

Many thanks. =Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:24:11 -0500
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  1935 Lone Ranger serial on eBay

I don't know whether it's legitimate, but the seller
misspelled Earle Graser's name, and the photos
proporting to be of Graser and James Jewell don't look
like either man.

But then, the seller has a phone number superimposed
over the pictures, so it's hard to tell with 100
percent certainty.

The guy with the piglet _could_ be Brace Beemer,
however. It does look a lot like him.

Also, the bookstore mentioned in the ad, O'Gara and
Wilson, Ltd., is an actual Chicago-based,
long-established bookstore, according to my
researches. So, that helps add credibility.

One picture from that set, of The Lone Ranger with
Silver, particularly caught my attention. The Ranger
is wearing white pants and shirt, a black (or dark
brown) vest and twin guns worn low on his hips. One of
the Radio Spirits 60 episode "Lone Ranger" collections
has a color photo of the Ranger in that same outfit on
the front. Now whether that photo was from the same
shoot, or that was the standard outfit for Lone Ranger
appearances (allowing for a possible later date for
the Radio Spirits photo) I don't know.

Bottom line: The item could be the real McCoy, but if
you were thinking of bidding, I'd do a _lot_ of
research first, just to be safe. Especially at _that_
price.

Rick

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:26:19 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jungle Jim

TC commented about the JUNGLE JIM episodes listed on Goldin's:
Per some of the wartime ones, (1942-3), there's some episodes listed on
Goldin's page that I haven't been able to find anywhere.  Are some of the
ones like the one where they're trapped in the bowling alley by Nazis
available?  And how did the Jungle Jims get so misdated in the first place-
according to Goldin the ones listed as 1947 are really 1944?  Are his
renumberings correct?  Any info would be greatly apreciated.

First off, Goldin listed only the information that could be acquired from
the discs and from the recordings themselves.  Many of the shows he offered
over the years came from transcription discs and were available for a custom
recording fee of $[removed] pre hour (plus postage).  Usually a 2 month wait but
considering he had recordings of shows like COLUMBIA WORKSHOP and ELLERY
QUEEN that were not known to exist, they were worth the penny.  Other shows
like the 80+ QUIET PLEASE episodes originated from discs he acquired and
were hot items when they became available.

As for the JUNGLE JIM series, the majority of the episodes do exist in
recorded form.  The program was syndicated via transcription discs with one
episode per side of the disc (so there are barely any partial episodes
floating about).  A total of 980 episodes were recorded and broadcast and
Goldin's archives only lists about 530.  There are many episodes NOT listed
on Goldin's page that are floating about in circulation, so if you search
hard enough from one OTR dealer to another, you'll easily find almost every
episode available except for the final two seasons.  The program went off
the air in August of 1954 and most of the episodes from April of 1952 to
August of 1954 are not easily available - the toughest to find in the
series.

it should also be noted, as nice as Goldin's site is, that it should be
considered with a grain of salt.  Goldin has admitted there are errors but
one honorable thing he is and has been doing is updating the site every few
months with corrections to the listings.  I know a man who used that site as
a reference source for a book he was writing, and was later shocked after
his book came out about a particular Hollywood actor that there was errors
and many entries lacking.  Goldin's site is nice to browse, but be aware
that what's listed isn't always 100% accurate.

Martin Grams, Jr.

[removed]  if you're looking for dealers who have JUNGLE JIM episodes, contact me
and I'll give you some phone numbers of dealers who have nice size
collections.

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:24:50 -0500
From: Lilah60@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The end of  August Heat

>From Craig Melville: I'm not sure if it is just my copy or the original
recording is incomplete but I'm missing the last 4 or so minutes.

I'm not sure the finely crafted, finely acted Suspense story "August Heat"
ends at all.
It just stops, leaving the reader to fill in the ending. During the last few
seconds
of my audio, a church bell is tolling toward midnight accompanied by heavy
human grunts and menacing footsteps, all growing louder to abrupt silence.
Then
the familiar closing.

I thought it clever leaving the listener to fill in the ending!  When I
listened again, I noted
the letter's clues to the solution that I was incapable of imagining.

Quite a piece of work that story; it's my favorite of all Colman's
appearances on
Suspense. If I'm missing four minutes, don't tell me about it!

Claire
Below the Beltway

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:10:59 -0500
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Unheard Characters

I was listening to a Burns and Allen show from 11-17-42 yesterday and it
was all about Ida Cantor and I thought ahha ( I do think "ahha" every
once in a while) Ida's going to be on the show and so there goes the
premise that she was talked about but never appeared on radio. But alas
she was never heard on this show either. However Eddies daughter Janet
was on the show, or at least someone playing her. Since she only had one
line( Daddy do you know where my welding outfit is?) I doubt that it was
her. It seems to me that if she came to the studio to do a show that
they'd give her more than one line. Anyway I think that it qualifies, as
one of Eddies daughters did appear on radio.(can you appear on an audio
only medium?).
Did anybody follow that?

George Aust

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:31:49 -0500
From: "William Schell" <bschell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bullard wife

I was listening to The Great Gildersleeve, The Opera Sponsor show from
12-2-45 and Mrs. Bullard, from across the street has quite a long part as
one of the planners for the opera.  She and another lady meet Gildy in his
living room. So, Mr. Bullard had a wife at one time.
Bill

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:32:02 -0500
From: "John, Ann and/or Kate" <jakdresden@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re:  When I listen to OTR

I've been teaching high school German for the last 20 years.  There are
evenings when I'm either grading tests or trying to come up with
creative lesson plans that I put on a cassette or two and listen to a
show while I'm completing my paperwork.  Comedies work best while
grading since I don't have to listen to every single word.  If I listen
to a Suspense or Escape show, I need to concentrate more on the show.
Those are great for doing lesson plans.  As other digest readers have
already said, it's a nice break from listening to the same music all the
time or even the same depressing news.  As an added bonus, my daughter
has grown up sitting in my study next to me listening to otr while I
graded papers and she did her homework.  She was always willing to
listen to whatever I put on.  Now that she's in college, I really miss
that.  Are there other readers who have passed this hobby on to their
children?

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:33:54 -0500
From: Mkerezman@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fr. Peyton and Family Theater
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There is a short article in the Boston globe on the cause for Fr. Patrick
Peyton's canonization that makes mention of his radio work with Family Theater.

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:41:25 -0500
From: Rich Zahradnik <rich@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Recommendations on MP3 download sites

I have been online since about 1986. I have enjoyed OTR since, as a comic
book fan, I stumbled on another sort of superhero, The Shadow. That led to
the discovery of the wide array of programming produced during radio's
Golden Age. My two interests ran in parallel until I subscribed to this
list. I have always bought shows as tapes and CDs. Reading here, the penny
only dropped recently that I could download shows as MP3's, then play them
off my iBook or iPod. I feel kinda stupid about this given how long I've
been online, that I've got three laptops on a WiFi network, an iPod, and
I've downloaded just about everything else, including music. Habit is habit,
I guess.

So, I Googled the download sites and there are a bunch, some charging by
volume (ie - gigs of data), some by the month. I'm looking for
recommendations as to the best ones in terms of service, breadth of
collection, price, recording quality and general respectability.

Let me know, on or off list. [removed]

[ADMINISTRIVIA: With the wealth of publically-accessable and free downloads
available on USENET and various websites, there's no reason to advertise any
of the for-pay systems on the Digest. Please feel free to contact the poster
directly if you must suggest one of the "leetcher" sites.  --cfs3]

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