Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #34
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 1/31/2005 11:53 AM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 34
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Johnny Carson & oldtime radio         [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
      Re: Easy Aces reissues                [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      1-31 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Hartz Mountain Canaries               [ Liberatore <msmagu@[removed]; ]
      Re: Shows                             [ "Paul Adomites" <padomites@ccyberne ]
      More on how radio really worked       [ "evantorch" <etorch@[removed]; ]
      Carson and Benny                      [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Jack Benny and Johnny Carson          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      The Lone Ranger's name                [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Johnny Carson visits on TV            [ "Dick Judge" <dickjudge@[removed]; ]
      Charles Lane update                   [ "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@comc ]
      Re: OTR Conventions                   [ Bagleyfan <bagleyfan@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:56:53 -0500
    From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Johnny Carson & oldtime radio

    Johnny Carson paid homage to radio's past stars
    frequently on his show.  He had Jack Benny and Bob
    Hope as guests as well as others who were part of
    radio's past.  Can you imagine still being on top of
    your game after thirty years and seeking to leave,
    rather than being shown the door?  I had heard that
    prior to his last few contracts, NBC had owned the
    rights to much of the 1960's material and most of the
    1970's which is why when Johnny Carson released the
    boxed set of the three decaades, much of the first two
    decades was not included.  I had heard (the account
    differs from someone who said he owned all the
    material from 1966 on) that NBC was storage the film
    and video from the first two decades and threw it out
    to save storage fees.  I heard he didn't acquire the
    rights and ownership of it until the late 1970's
    (whatever remained).

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    Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:11:55 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Easy Aces reissues

    On 1/30/05 3:07 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     Everything I read agrees that these shows are simply
>     rebroadcasts of shows from the network run in 1937-38 but the sources are
>     divided as to whether it was the old scripts being done again or whether
>     they were simply using recordings from '37-'38 with new intros.  Does anyone
>     know for sure?

    They're definitely re-edits of the recordings -- I can confirm this by
    having heard original recordings and reissues of the same episodes.

    Every episode of the Anacin run of "Easy Aces" was recorded off the
    network line by RCA Victor for extension spotting purposes -- many
    non-affiliated stations carried the series by recording in markets where
    no NBC Blue affiliate available. Ace retained copies of these discs, and
    selected storylines were reedited for syndication beginning in 1945.
    Contrary to what's generally been reported on these programs, the
    storylines chosen for reissue began in 1936, not 1937.

    The edits deleted the original Anacin commericals, and inserted a stock
    recording of the theme music in place of the various themes used during
    the 1936-38 span. In certain episodes, Ford Bond's introductory comments
    were deleted as well, and newly written introductions were recorded and
    inserted in their place. This was done to bridge the gap in continuity
    when certain storylines, containing dated, topical references, were
    omitted.

    Ace retained the original unedited discs, and these exist today at the
    Library of Congress.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:12:29 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-31 births/deaths

    January 31st births

    01-31-1872 - Zane Grey - Zanesville, OH - d. 10-23-1939
    writer: "Rudy Vallee Hour"
    01-31-1892 - Eddie Cantor - NYC - d. 10-10-1964
    singer, comedian: (Banjo Eyes) "Eddie Cantor Show"; "Chase & Sanborn Hour"
    01-31-1902 - Tullulah Bankhead - Huntsville, AL - d. 12-12-1968
    actress, hostess: "Johnny Presents"; "Big Show"
    01-31-1905 - John O'Hara - Pottsville, PA - d. 4-11-1970
    author: "Information Please"; "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"
    01-31-1909 - Walter Coy - Great Falls, MT - d. 12-11-1974
    actor: Michael Lanyard/Lone Wolf "Lone Wolf"
    01-31-1913 - Maurice Manson - d. 9-25-2002
    actor: Reverend McArthur "One Man's Family"
    01-31-1915 - Bobby Hackett - Providence, RI - d. 6-7-1976
    cornetist: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"; "Chamber Music Society of Lower
    Basin Street"
    01-31-1915 - Garry Moore - Baltimore, MD - d. 11-28-1993
    host, comedian: "Garry Moore Show"; "Camel Caravan"; "Take It or Leave It"
    01-31-1919 - Jackie Robinson - Cairo, GA - d. 10-24-1972
    sportscaster: (Baseball Hall of Fame) "Jackie Robinson Show"
    01-31-1921 - John Agar - Chicago, IL - d. 4-7-2002
    actor: "Big Show"
    01-31-1921 - Mario Lanza - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-7-1959
    singer: "Mario Lanza Show"
    01-31-1923 - Carol Channing - Seattle, WA
    actress-singer: "Stagestruck"; "Arthur Godfrey Show"
    01-31-1923 - Joanne Dru - Logan, WV - d. 9-10-1996
    actress: (Sister of Peter Marshall) "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-31-1929 - Jean Simmons - London, England
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "A Christmas Carol"

    January 31st deaths

    01-07-1889 - Robert Hilmar ([removed]) Baukhage - La Salle, IL - d. 1-31-1976
    commentator: "Four Star News"; "News and Comments"
    01-18-1882 - A. A. Milne - London, England - d. 1-31-1956
    author: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
    05-01-1892 - Howard Barlow - Plain City, OH - d. 1-31-1972
    conductor: "March of Time"; "Voice of Firestone"
    05-14-1910 - Paul Sutton - Albuquerque, NM - d. 1-31-1970
    actor: Sergeant William Preston "Challenge of the Yukon"
    06-25-1887 - George Abbott - Forestville, NY - d. 1-31-1995
    broadway producer: "Stagestruck"
    08-14-1867 - John Galsworthy - Kingston Hill, Surrey, England - d. 1-31-1933
    author: "Columbia Workshop"; "Great Plays"; "Theatre Guil On the Air"
    08-23-1897 - Ray Perkins - Boston, MA - d. 1-31-1969
    emcee, singer: "National Amateur Night"; "Show of the Week"; "Nickel Man"
    08-27-1882 - Samuel Goldwyn - Warsaw, Poland - d. 1-31-1974
    panelist: "People's Platform"
    08-27-1901 - Roger Pryor - NYC - d. 1-31-1974
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Summer Symphony"
    11-01-1923 - Gordon R. Dickson - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada - d. 1-31-2001
    science fiction writer: "X-Minus One"; "Exploring Tomorrow"
    11-08-1909 - Scotty Wiseman - Ingalls, NC - d. 1-31-1981
    singer: (Lulu Belle and Scotty) "National Barn Dance"; "Boone County Jamboree"
    11-22-1875 - Elizabeth Patterson - Savannah, TN - d. 1-31-1966
    actress: Maid "Halls of Ivy"
    12-18-1890 - Edwin H. Armstrong - NYC - d. 1-31-1954
    inventor: FM radio
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:38:07 -0500
    From: Liberatore <msmagu@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Hartz Mountain Canaries

    Can anyone help me with find the Hartz Mountain Canaries series.  Any
    help would be appreciated.  I have tried contacting a few otr companies
    but got no answers.  Thanks in the advance.
    Pam Liberatore

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    Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:51:35 -0500
    From: "Paul Adomites" <padomites@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Shows

    If I wanted to produce a live version of an OTR broadcast, say for a senior
    citizens home(s), do I face copyright problems? Should I just make up my
    own? Any recommendations on scripts to use? Of course I'd want ones with
    funny SFX, loud heroes and fainting maidens. Is "The 1940s Radio Hour" a
    good one to try?
    Paul Adomites

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    Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:18:00 -0500
    From: "evantorch" <etorch@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  More on how radio really worked

    I have two more questions for the Harlan Stones and Bill Murtaughs of the
    world:
    How did show personnel decide whether to use the conventional "microphone on
    a stand"  vs. the 44B hung from above?
    Secondly, were announcers considered in a world unto themselves (like
    placekickers on a football team) or did they the same backround as the
    actors. I remember comments to the effect in these pages that they were sort
    o an inbred tight unit.

    Evan Torch, MD
    Atlanta
    etorch@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 01:24:26 -0500
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Carson and Benny

    Jim Burns writes:

>     One of the neat things about the Johnny Carson episode is that if  I
>     remember it correctly, it was really designed as a showcase to  help
>     fully introduce Carson to America. I'm pretty sure he sings on that
>     episode

    It certainly seemed that way.  Carson sings and dances "Ballin the  Jack",
    plays drums, and I believe he even does some sleight of hand.  But  see below to
    note that Carson was already starting to establish himself  earlier.

    And Jim Hilliker writes:

>     Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the one from Jack's TV show which first
>     aired on October 22, 1963??

    Yes, that's it.

>     Johnny Carson was also a guest on Jack's TV show a few years earlier, on
>     November 20, 1955 in the episode "Jack Gives Johnny Carson Advice."

    Yes, that's correct.  I haven't seen the earlier show yet, but I  hope to
    some day!

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 01:53:14 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Benny and Johnny Carson

>     Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:27:29 -0500
>     From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)

>     One of the neat things about the Johnny Carson episode is that if
>     I remember it correctly, it was really designed as a showcase to
>     help fully introduce Carson to America.

    That's pretty remarkable, since at that time Jack Benny was still on CBS, and
    Carson was
    on NBC.  I wonder how they managed to get CBS to allow that.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 01:53:49 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger's name

>     He was, in fact, supposed to be the great
>     nephew of John Reid, the Lone Ranger.

    OK, let's start up the whole debate about the Lone Ranger's first name again.

    I think his first name was "The."  Same as Smokey the Bear's middle name.

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    Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:32:08 -0500
    From: "Dick Judge" <dickjudge@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Johnny Carson visits on TV

    I have in my collection the audio portion of a Jack Benny TV show that has
    Johnny Carson as a guest.

    In that episode Johnny does card tricks, dances, sings and plays the drums.

    MEMORIES OF RADIO/Dick Judge

    How old would you be if you didn't know how old you were?

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    Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:05:41 -0500
    From: "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@[removed];
    To: "Old-Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Charles Lane update

    Mark Evanier of newsfromme blog fame has a couple of pictures up of actor
    Charles Lane enjoying his 100th birthday bash:
    ([removed]#009515)

    Ivan

    Classic movies, television and old-time radio at Thrilling Days of
    Yesteryear! [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:39:42 -0500
    From: Bagleyfan <bagleyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: OTR Conventions

    Jim Widner wrote:

>     Try [the website] again. When I mentioned it, Lou
>     apparently had a bug, but he worked it out and I have updated the page for
>     him.

    Thank you, Jim, I got the update. And a big thanks also to Jay Hickerson
    for privately sending more convention info. There are some good people in
    this group!

    - Dan Roy

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