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                          Last Updated 10-28-96

[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 457

Table Of Contents: 

	 Re: Nostalgia-L
	 Re: classic TV
	 Jack Flanders
	 remove
	 Whose Face Is That With the Egg On It ?
	 Cassette Decks
	 SCI-FI Channel "Cold Equations"
	 OMB: The Movie

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:27:57 -0600
From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <bratcher@[removed]>
To: michaelcarraher@[removed]
Cc: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Nostalgia-L
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 01:04 PM 11/25/96 +0000, you wrote:
>[removed]
>
>Saw your post to the OTR newsletter.  I hadn't heard about the OTTV
>mailing list.  How do I get on that list?  (I didn't want to use the
>same address you used to post to the list because I assume that will go
>to the whole list as well.)  Thanks.
>
>Re:  Why not more classic shows on broadcast and cable?
>Only a few B&W shows have a track record of continuing to draw an
>audience (Lucy, The Honeymooners, Dick Van Dyke and early Andy Griffith
>episodes and that's about it).  Nick at Nite ran Make Room for Daddy at
>one point (Actually, except for Lucy, Nick has pretty much gone to shows
>from the 70's shot in color and dropped the 50's-60's shows they used to
>run which were shot in B&W).  Superstation WWOR, New York has has run
>both Burns and Allen and Jack Benny.  FAM ran Wagon Train and other B&W
>Westerners (they continue to run The Rifleman).  For the most part, the
>ratings don't hold up with these shows.  Also advertisers tend to stay
>away in the belief that the audience for these "nostalgia" shows is over
>50 and that's not whom they want to reach with their ads.  
>I buy some shows from Columbia House ($[removed] each month for two hours of
>material, either 4 1/2 hours or 2 one hour).
>

Thats what I mean. Nobody runs it anymore. I'm 37 and really love the stuff.
I buy some of the Columbia tape series plus tapes from Shokus video
([removed]) and what I can find locally in video stores. Also as I said
in the post I buy both color & B/W shows on 16mm film from the 50's to the
70's from other film collectors and dealers through a magazine called The
Big Reel.

Here is the Nostalgia -L info.

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subscribe nostalgia-L in the body.

It's a classic TV list.

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Robert M. Bratcher Jr.
E-mail to:
bratcher@[removed]
Record collector, 8mm, super 8, 16 and 35mm Film collector.
I like old radio's too.
Collins, Hallicrafters, National & Hammurland are my Favorites!

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:48:57 -0600
From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <bratcher@[removed]>
To: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
Cc: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: classic TV
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 09:00 AM 11/25/96, you wrote:
>Dear Robert,
>You say/ask:
>
>>Classic TV at it's best! Why don't local TV stations run this stuff anymore?
>
>CBN, now the Family Channel, ran many of those old 50s shows all during the
>1980s.  But they ran their course, ie., the audience fell away.  
>Very few local stations will show much interest in them now, for a basic if
>sad reason:  Most people in the present-day TV audience will not sit still
>for black-and-white programs, automatically tagging them as "old and
>boring."  Since the ratings figures reflect this, and since most station
>programmers are of baby-boom age or younger, they just don't see much
>incentive to put them on the air, any more.

I guess this 37 year old is not "most people". I love some of those 50's
shows! Was born in 1959 so haven't seen many episodes of them before.
I can't "sit still" for all the "situation comedy" and "daytime talk shows"
(Ricky Lake, ect) they are running these days. To me THEY are boring! I'd
rather watch my 16mm films & videotapes of classic TV shows anytime over
whats "popular" according to the programmers. I just sent a Nelsons TV diary
back the other day. They will find out that other than Xena, ST DS9 & ST
Voyager All I watch on TV is older movies (30's to mid 80's) from AMC, FLIX
and TCM. Sometimes Showtime and Cinemax run them too.

>When Nick at Nite stops running The Dick Van Dyke Show, as it must
>eventually, I have little hope that I will be able to find it anywhere
>else.
>The only real exception to this seems to be "Perry Mason," which can still
>be found at least once a day on "superstations".

Yes Perry Mason & I Love Lucy run on superstations as well as one of my
local UHF stations but nothing else from the 50' or 60's. Some 70's can be
found on cable/sat TV but nothing locally except for MASH which runs on CH
20 late at night. All I can do is buy tapes & film ptints when I can find
them. Tis a sad day for classic TV fans!

Robert M. Bratcher Jr.
E-mail to:
bratcher@[removed]
Record collector, 8mm, super 8, 16 and 35mm Film collector.
I like old radio's too.
Collins, Hallicrafters, National & Hammurland are my Favorites!

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:03:21 GMT
From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Flanders
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

From: "JACK MANN" <jmann@[removed]>
>I got a catalog from the ZBS Foundation which
has tapes featuring Jack Flanders. They sound
interesting and I was wondering if anyone had
heard any of his adventures. <

The Jack Flanders series first aired on NPR in the mid 70's if memory serves
me right.  Tom Lopez writes for sound.  Rich, inviting, devouring sound.
The story lines are not always your straight forward linear makes sense
kinda plots.

If you want a straight story, you may be disappointed.  If you want to
treat your ears to a wonderful sensation, by all means go for it.
Many of the titles contain sound effects (sound scaping is a much better term)
recorded on location where the story is based.  The production quality
is excellent.

I found them more relaxing that a cocktale, with no hangover effect.


The Ruby series was very popular in college stations.  It is short, in your
face college type entertainment.  (Listener discretion advised)



+++++ Henry Howard == The Atlanta Radio Theatre Company +++++
+++ [removed]   or  /artc /audiocraft+++
+++++    Produced at Audio Craft  (770) 923-7955        +++++
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 12:06:55 CST
From: dye@[removed] (Ken R. Dye )
To: [removed]@[removed], [removed]@[removed]
Subject: remove
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Please have your administrator remove me from your mailing list.

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:14:21 -0500
From: Bigkids@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Whose Face Is That With the Egg On It ?
Message-ID: <961125201421_1386020894@[removed]>

Whose face is that with the egg on it?  Mine, sayeth the undersigned.

I'd heard or read the story of "The Fat Man" so many times -- that J. Scott
Smart died and that prevented the studio from continuing the movie series --
that I accepted it as gospel.

But as Charles Laughlin and several others have pointed out to me, either
one-to-one or through the Digest, Smart lived for nearly a decade after the
film was released. So obviously there had to be another reason for the
discontinuing of the "series" after just one picture.

And of course Hammet's political problems and his jail sentence fit right in,
time-wise. 

His various radio series were all cancelled and he became dead meat in
Hollywood.

What a tragedy!

Dick Lupoff

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 96 01:44:55 UT
From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Decks
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I've been putting this off for over a month now, but I guess it's time to get 
myself a new cassette deck. (I think I've P O'd a friend who's trading tapes 
with me!) 
Anyway, my old deck was a TEAC dual cassette with auto-reverse and HX Pro. 
(Not to mention Dolby's A and B) I only had the deck a year when the left side 
stopped playing tapes. Not too much time elapsed before the right side (the 
recording side) also lost it's ability to PLAY tapes, although it still 
records just fine. Well, that was until about a month ago when I noticed that 
the right channel was also dead. I finally got around to reduping the tapes 
for my trade partner (went to visit my brother!) (Well, what are brothers 
for?) but, I've got to get another deck!
ANY SUGGESTIONS?
I'm looking for:
  HX Pro
  Auto-reverse
  Reasonable price
  LONG life

Thanks,
Bruce M. Rosenberger

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:16:04 -0700
From: aerickse@[removed] (Anna Ericksen)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: SCI-FI Channel "Cold Equations"
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

Just wanted to pass the word that the SCI-FI Channel will be doing a SCI-FI
original movie called "Cold Equations". I think around the 14th or 15th of
DEC (check the SCI-FI web site).  X-Minus One did a show by this same title
and yes it is the same theme in the movie.  This is a CLASSIC OTR show and
one of my favorites. Does this count as a show going from radio to TV?

ENJOY!

Carl

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:36:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steve Lewis, CCSU" <LEWIS@[removed]>
To:   [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OMB: The Movie
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi.

I just received the TV GUIDE with next week's offerings.  Lo and behold, one of 
the movies on Cinemax (first time) is Our Miss Brooks (the movie).  1956.  
"Eve Arden as a teacher with romantic and professional problems."  Not 
rated.  

No mention that it's a comedy, so if you weren't around at the 
time, how would you know from that description?  (And judging by the other 
movies you can see on Cinemax, if the film was dated 1996, Connie would 
be a stripper in her spare non-teaching [removed])

					Steve

Oh, yes, Friday at 7:30 am.



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