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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 157
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
THE SHADOW's earliest surviving appe [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
Fun exhibition in Chicago [ "Jackie Lannin" <jackquack@comcast. ]
Re: illicitly-recorded broadcasts [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
LIGHTS OUT "The Dark" [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
Re: syndicated OTR [ Ercjncpr@[removed] ]
An OTR question [ "larry" <larrybieza@[removed]; ]
OTR FRIDAY SHOWS [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
Gasoline Alley [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
5-7 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
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Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:44:21 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: THE SHADOW's earliest surviving appearance
In a message dated 5/5/04 11:17:16 AM, Tom van der Voort writes:
Anthony Tollin's interesting comments on the history of the 'Shadow'
broadcasts has inspired me to note a recent 'Shadow' find. Dave Goldin
recently acquired an October 20, 1933, recording of Fred Allen's
'Salad Bowl Review' featuring an appearance by 'The Shadow'. Obviously
this was at a time when 'The Shadow' functioned as narrator, not crime
solver. Could this be the mythic figure's earliest surviving broadcast
appearance?
***Afraid not. The Shadow also made a short appearance four months earlier
on the October 2, 1933 episode of THE JACK BENNY PROGRAM ("Who Killed Mr. X?")
... which appears to be the character's earliest surviving broadcast
appearance. That particular Benny show does survive. Unfortunately, The Shadow is
impersonated by neither Frank Readick nor Carl Kroenke (who was a semi-regular
supporting player on the Benny shows back in the 1930s) on THE JACK BENNY
PROGRAM. The question is: Does the Allen show feature Frank Readick? Only The
Shadow knows ... but I hope to find out soon --Anthony Tollin***
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Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:45:01 -0400
From: "Jackie Lannin" <jackquack@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fun exhibition in Chicago
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Hi Gang,
Got back from Chicago intact. If you are in the area, check out this fun
installation at the Chicago Cultural Center- which is worth a visit anyway.
"The Rise and Fall of the National Barn Dance: An Installation by John
Langford and Rob Lentz-March 27th -May 30th"
Who would have thought that, long before Nashville, Chicago was the center for
country western music and the progenitor of the National Barn Dance
phenomenon, broadcast from 1924-1960 on WLS radio? Chicago artists Jon
Langford and Rob Lentz have uncovered a hidden side of Chicago's past, and in
act of unbridled devotion they have thoroughly researched this history and
celebrated it with this multi-media installation.
Museum of Broadcast has relocated and will be open in 2005- I hope to visit
this when it reopens.
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Hope you all are well. Nice to be back with the [removed]
Jackie
Sunny St. Paul
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Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:50:11 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: illicitly-recorded broadcasts
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
. . . wouldn't someone at the network have been able to tell that
these were recordings? . . .Maybe the background noise inherent
in short-wave broadcasts swamped out the background noise
inherent in disk recordings, so nobody could tell. . . .
But I also read, probably in an article based on rumor-fed research
and urban legends, that Allied soldiers during WWII thought that
German tape-recorded broadcasts were live, because the
conventional disk recordings of the day couldn't sound that good.
Mark Kinsler is right to be skeptical about the fairy tale that has been
told that tape recorded programs were used by the Germans during WW II in
order to fool the allies into thinking that these broadcasts were live.
Conventional disc recording of that era COULD sound "that good." Lacquer
recordings were VERY low in noise for their initial playbacks, potentially
lower than tape hiss on the early Magnetophon recorders. And there were
other recording technologies being used in the late 30s, especially in
Europe, such as the Selinaphone optical film recorder, and the Millertape
which was recorded mechanically put replayed optically. As for NBC being
fooled by the recordings aired from Europe later in May 1937, they didn't
know about the Lowell Thomas interviews until it was disclosed in the
press. As for the "Empire's Homage" program, my only guess is that they
weren't paying attention when the British announcer played the excerpts of
the earlier ceremony during his recap of the day's events. Maybe they
thought it was a live recreation, al la The March of Time. The real irony
is that CBS HAD been suspicious that the newly crowned King's address would
be pre-recorded because of his speech impediment. Believe it or not, CBS
dispatched Robert Trout to London to sit in a quiet studio and listen
carefully to the speech in order to cut it off their air if he heard
evidence of needle ticks and pops. The speech was live, so he was off the
hook, but I asked him many years later if he would have cut off the King if
it had been recorded. He told me that he wouldn't have had the nerve to do
it. He did not remember if he was on duty when the recordings of excerpts
of the ceremony were played. The BBC broadcast was aired complete on both
NBC and CBS.
What makes this story even more interesting is that by not announcing the
use of recordings, the networks were violating FCC rules requiring the
announcement.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 00:26:49 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: LIGHTS OUT "The Dark"
In re: to Kermyt Anderson's comment about the original LIGHTS OUT production
of "The Dark" does not exist from the 1930's --- Yes
it does!
Tom Heathwood - Heritage Radio Theatre / Heritage Radio Classics
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 00:27:03 -0400
From: Ercjncpr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: syndicated OTR
Well, I do remember the first re-runs of The Shadow around 1964 (I was 8
years old). They aired on KHJ in Los Angeles at 5pm Sundays. Many on this list
will recognize the significance of that airtime/date and station. Quite a
coincidence, no?
Unfortunately I only have vague memories of the last of the real OTR era
circa 1960-62 but I was a faithful fan a little later on of Breakfast Club,
Arthur
Godfrey Time, Art Linkletter's House Party as well as Fulton Lewis Jr. and
Lowell Thomas. At least I got to hear those and I'm thankful for it
Eric Cooper
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 01:26:48 -0400
From: "larry" <larrybieza@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: An OTR question
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The current Union for radio workers is AFTRA, but what was the union Radio
performers were menbers of back in the 1930-40's? Or wasn't there a union?
Thanks. Larry
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:02:35 -0400
From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR FRIDAY SHOWS
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I am trying to find out how many OTR Shows sustain Friday's on the air or
just aired on Friday's? I know back then there were Friday shows, because
most
people were at home a lot back then, if you can help I sure would appreciated
it. So far surfing the web I came across: Jimmy Durante Show, My favorite
Husband, ABC Mystery Time, Nightbeat, and Alan Young Show. If I am not fully
correct on these shows let me know. I am pretty sure more radio programs
came on
the air on Friday's including summer replacement shows, I am a little new at
finding information like this and need a little assistance.
Trina,
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:03:30 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gasoline Alley
Well, it's Walt's wife Phyllis who "assumed room temperature."
Really, if the artist is going to be true to the concept that all the
characters in "Gasoline Alley" age, he's going to HAVE to bump off Uncle
Walt. and soon too--Walt must be 110!!
(I did read an article once that artist Scancarelli said he'd never kill off
Uncle Walt. Poetic License?!)
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:48:24 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-7 births/deaths
May 7th births
05-07-1884 - Gloria Gordon - d. 11-21-1962
actress: (Mother of Gale Gordon) Mrs. O'Reilly "My Friend Irma"
05-07-1885 - George "Gabby" Hayes - Wellsville, NY - d. 2-9-1969
actor: "Andrews Sisters' Eight-to-the-Bar Ranch"; "Roy Rogers Show"
05-07-1892 - Archibald MacLeish - Glencoe, IL - d. 4-20-1982
writer: "Columbia Workshop"
05-07-1900 - Ralph Truman - London, England - d. 10-15-1977
actor: John H Watson "BBC Home Theatre"
05-07-1901 - Gary Cooper - Helena, MT - d. 5-13-1961
actor: "Family Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; 'Lux Radio Theatre"
05-07-1908 - Edmund MacDonald - MA - d. 9-2-1951
actor: Tommy Hughes "Big Town"; Inspector Burke "Murder Will Out" s
05-07-1915 - Win Elliot - Chelsea, MA - d. 9-17-1998
sportscaster, emcee: "Fish Pond"; "County Fair"; "Quick as a Flash"
05-07-1919 - Eva Peron - Los Toldos, Argentina - d. 7-26-1952
actress, hostess: "Radio Argentina"; "Radio Belgrano"
05-07-1923 - Anne Baxter - MI City, IN - d. 12-12-1985
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
May 7th deaths
03-20-1913 - Judith Evelyn - Seneca, SD - d. 5-7-1967
actress: Grace Marshall "Helpmate"; Kay Miniver "Mrs. Miniver"
03-29-1891 - Warner Baxter - Columbus, OH - d. 5-7-1951
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
07-13-1934 - Dennis Crosby - CA - d. 5-7-1991
actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
12-09-1909 - Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. - NYC - d. 5-7-2000
actor: "Silent Men"; "This Is War"; "We Care"
12-23-1907 - Don McNeill - Galena, IL (Raised: Sheboygan, WI) - d. 5-7-1996
host: "Breakfast Club"
--
Ron Sayles
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