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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 46
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      RE:Red Scare Misinformation           [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
      RE: Ozzie and Harriet                 [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      RE: Matt Cvetic                       [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      ralph bell photo                      [ Grams46@[removed] ]
      mp3 players                           [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      2-8 births/deaths                     [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:05:10 -0500
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE:Red Scare Misinformation
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    Michael is correct in his quoting the law regarding advocating the overthrow
    of the government but the fact still stands that being a member of the US
    Communist party was not and is not illegal. Technically if a member of the
    Republican or Democratic party preached the violent overthrown of the
    government said member would be subject to the same law Michael mentioned and
    hopefully would be prosecuted under that law. However, they can not  be
    arrested for being members of one of the dominant political parties.

      Red Channels, the Blacklist, McCarthy and McCarthyism and their ilk
    represent a dark time in our history that we probably had to to go through as
    part of the growing pains this country has had to endure IE: The Civil War,
    Jim Crow Laws etc. No one here is going to change any ones mind on how they
    feel about it pro or con, the best we can hope for as a nation is that it
    never happens again. That we have enough confidence in ourselves and our
    system to believe that we and it can stand on equal footing with any opposing
    views and go toe to toe without resorting to the shameful practices of an
    earlier age.

      And that we never again again have to endure such blatant propaganda as "I
    Was a Communist for the F. B. I." a show that I enjoy for it's
    predictability.
      Larry Albert

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    Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:15:52 -0500
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Ozzie and Harriet

    If my memory isn't playing tricks on me, David Nelson was once asked about
    his father's profession, and he said that his dad was a band leader/singer,
    with his mother being the band vocalist (if fact, this fact is borne out by
    listening to "Red Skelton" shows from the early forties. For a time, Harriet
    played the part of Junior's [the mean widdle kid] mother.) Their show was
    slated to begin broadcasting on television, with Ozzie's band leader life
    being a major part of the scripts; however, somehow or other the beginning of
    telecasting the show was put of for a year, and during that time Lucy and
    Desi began telecasting their show, with Desi's profession of band leader
    being a prominent element. The producers and writers of O & H then decided
    that Ozzie being a band leader would be to much of a "me too" concept. As a
    result, by the time the show did reach television, all the band leading was
    downplayed while the couple's home life was emphasized. The only thing wrong
    with that story, though, is that I don't believe the radio shows said much
    about Ozzie's profession either.

    Thanx,
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    Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:15:56 -0500
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Matt Cvetic

    Two entries about Matt Cvetic summarize his real activities in just a couple
    of paragraphs Googling his name will produce many more. The real Cvetic was a
    paid informant for the FBI, and never an employed agent. From what I've read,
    he also wasn't a very nice person. One of the aritcles below notes that he
    once beat up his sister-in-law, and I'm pretty sure I remember another
    article that argued that he was a wife-beater.

    Personally, I always have a difficult time dealing with stories that purport
    themselves to be factual, then turn out to be highly exaggerated or totally
    fictional. I end up feeling that I've been conned into believing the story's
    point of view. Also, note that the articles below cite at least one book
    about Cvetic, but I've never read it, so I can't comment one way or the
    other.

    I want also to enter my two cents about blacklisting and who did or didn't
    want to blow up our government. Many of those attacked by HUAC and other
    congressional panels had begun their commie affiliation in the thirties,
    during the depths of the depression. At that time, blacks, Jews, and other
    minorities were assumed to be communists merely because of their ethnic
    backgrounds. I can't come up with a citation just now, but I remember hearing
    about Congressman accused Edward G. Robinson of being a communist because his
    surname was originally "Goldenstein" and he was Jewish.

    I also recall, during my undergraduate days, taking a course from St. Clair
    Drake, who, with Horace Clayton, wrote a sociological/anthropological classic
    study of Chicago's Negro community, "Black Metropolis," which eventually
    became a classic in its field. Drake, who remembered the thirties quite well,
    told us that when a family was evicted by the sheriff, and their belongings
    were taken out to the sidewalk and left there, all the social agencies and
    the politicians did their tsk-tsking and braying about how unfair it all was,
    the reds would show up and move the furniture back up to the apartment. That
    sort of practice made them rather unpopular with landlords, but extremely
    popular with the tenants. Don't forget that about a quarter of the US
    population had lost their jobs for the greater part of that decade. The reds
    also preached racial and ethnic equality at a time when when most of those in
    major political parties and unions advocated just the opposite. It isn't
    surprising, then, that many of those who were dispossessed in America felt
    that communism had a great deal to offer.

    As the nation's financial trauma dissipated around the time we entered the
    war, many, if not most of them, dropped out of the CP and moved more toward
    the center or the right. What so infuriated many about the congressional
    hearings after the war was, they went after everybody who had ever joined the
    CP or who was once a 'fellow traveler.' They didn't confine themselves to
    investigating only those remained communists after the war. They also cited
    for Contempt of Congress anyone who would not publicly name their old friends
    and business associates as fellow commies. We, as a society, have always been
    rather schizophrenic about snitching on our friends. On the one hand, we
    consider it morally repugnant while legally, we are required to do so. I
    think a similar scizophrenia caused the division between Hollywood's lefties
    and righties of the forties and fifties, and still exists today, forcing
    Charlie to remind us to be civil when we discuss this topic.

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    Thanx,
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    Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:31:14 -0500
    From: Grams46@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  ralph bell photo

    alanladdsr@[removed] writes:

>     I use to have, on my computer,
>     a  very nice picture of Ralph Bell taken at a convention shortly before  his
>     [removed] allowed it to get deleted. Am wondering if the picture is  still
>     available on a site somewhere.

    [removed]

    peace  from kathy
    support our troops; end the war
    john 3:16

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    Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:16:30 -0500
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  mp3 players
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    Hello everyone, I want to get a portable player to play my mp3 radio shows.  I know
      nothing about them.  Would a few people contact me either on the digest or by e-mail
      and share with me what is good to buy and size of memory to get.  I am looking for
      something what would work with a dell computer?  I would appreciate any help anyone
      would send.  Many thanks  Lynn Wagar

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    Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:16:41 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  2-8 births/deaths

    February 8th births

    02-08-1828 - Jules Verne - Nantes, France - d. 3-24-1905
    pioneering science fiction writer: "Mercury Theatre"; "This Is My Best"
    02-08-1868 - Evangeline Adams - d. 11-10-1932
    astrologist: "Horoscope Talks"
    02-08-1886 - Charlie Ruggles - Los Angeles, CA - d. 12-23-1970
    comedian: "Texaco Star Theatre"; "Suspense"; "This Is My Best"
    02-08-1888 - Edith Evans - London, England - d. 10-14-1976
    actor: "Kaleidoscope"
    02-08-1890 - Irving Kaufman - Syracuse, NY - d. 1-3-1976
    singer: "Champion Sparkers"; "Broadway Vanities"
    02-08-1892 - Will Aubrey - Lithuania - d. 1-3-1958
    actor: (The Bard of the Byways) "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
    02-08-1893 - Ed Fitzgerald - Troy, NY - d. 3-22-1982
    host: "The Fitzgeralds"
    02-08-1894 - King Vidor - Galveston, TX - d. 11-1-1982
    film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"; "Hedda Hopper's Hollywood"
    02-08-1902 - Lyle Talbot - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 3-3-1996
    actor: "Your Hollywood Informer"; "Calling All Cars"; "The Unexpected"
    02-08-1904 - Charles Sears - Hoopeston, IL - d. 8-xx-1987
    tenor: "National Barn Dance"; "Musical Memories"
    02-08-1905 - Don Ball - Block Island, RI - d. 1-7-1974
    staff announcer for CBS during the 1930s.
    02-08-1905 - Henry King - d. 8-8-1974
    orchestra leader: "Burns and Allen"
    02-08-1905 - Truman Bradley - Sheldon, MO - d. 7-28-1974
    announcer: "Easy Aces"; "Red Skelton & Co."; "Drene Show"
    02-08-1907 - Phil Davis - Cincinnati, OH - d. 12-xx-1985
    musician: "Avalon Time"; "Scramby Amby"
    02-08-1907 - Ray Middleton - Chicago, IL - d. 4-10-1984
    actor: Abraham Lincoln "Honest Abe"
    02-08-1908 - Myron McCormick - Albany, IN - d. 7-30-1962
    actor: Christopher Wells "Advs. of Christopher Wells"
    02-08-1911 - Judith Allen - NYC - d. 10-5-1996
    actor: Margo Lane "The Shadow"
    02-08-1913 - Betty Field - Boston, MA - d. 9-13-1973
    actor: Mary Aldrich "Aldrich Family"
    02-08-1914 - Margot Stevenson - NYC
    actor: Margo Lane "The Shadow"
    02-08-1915 - George "Doc" Abraham - Wayland, NY - d. 1-27-2005
    gardner, host: "The Green Thumb"
    02-08-1917 - Robert Dryden - d. 12-16-2003
    actor: Doctor West "We Love and Learn"; Sergeant Maggio "Call the
    Police"
    02-08-1920 - Lana Turner - Wallace, ID - d. 6-29-1995
    actor: "Abbott and Costello"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    02-08-1920 - Robert Garnett "Buddy" Blattner - St. Louis, MO
    announcer: Armed Forces Radio, Guam
    02-08-1925 - Jack Lemmon - Boston, MA - d. 6-27-2001
    actor: "Dimension X"; "X Minus One"; Dr. Brent "Road of Life"
    02-08-1931 - James Dean - Byron, IN - d. 9-30-1955
    actor: "Hallmark Playhouse"
    02-08-1941 - Martin Huston - Lexington, KY - d. 8-8-2001
    actor: Jeep Allison "My Son Jeep"

    February 8th deaths

    01-13-1903 - Charles Kullman - New Haven, CT - d. 2-8-1983
    singer: "The Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"
    01-14-1920 - George Herman - NYC - d. 2-8-2005
    newsman: CBS news writer
    02-17-1897 - Ben Alley - West Virginia - d. 2-8-1970
    singer: (the Golden Tenor) "Melody Lane"; "Sweethearts Of the Air"
    06-04-1917 - Helen Wood - Clarksville, TN - d. 2-8-1988
    actor: Elaine Dascomb "Those We Love"
    06-22-1916 - Johnny Jacobs - Milwaukee, WI - d. 2-8-1982
    announcer: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; "Frontier Gentleman";
    "Granby's Green Acres"
    07-18-1913 - Marvin Miller - St. Louis, MO - d. 2-8-1985
    actor: Ben Lyon "Jeff Regan, Investigator"; Gil Whitney "Romance of
    Helen Trent"
    09-10-1909 - Raymond Scott - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-8-1994
    conductor, composer: "Your Hit Parade"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
    09-28-1887 - Tom Terriss - London, England - d. 2-8-1964
    actor/narrater: "Letters from Abroad"; "Vagabond Adverturer"
    10-05-1905 - Harriet MacGibbon - Chicago, IL - d. 2-8-1987
    actor: Lucy Kent "Home, Sweet Home"
    10-07-1898 - Alfred Wallenstein - Chicago, IL - d. 2-8-1983
    conductor: "Virtuosos"; "Voice of Firestone"
    11-01-1919 - John Secondari - Rome, Italy - d. 2-8-1975
    novelist: "As Europe Sees the Marshall Plan"; "Prologue"
    12-08-1928 - Jimmy Smith - Norristown, PA - d. 2-8-2005
    jazz organist: Won a radio talent contest in Philadelphia at the age
    of 9
    12-22-1862 - Connie Mack - East Brookfield, MA - d. 2-8-1956
    baseball manager: "The Shell Show"; "A Tribute to Lou Gehrig"
    12-24-1913 - Myrtle 'Lulubelle' Wiseman - Boone, NC - d. 2-8-1999
    singer: (Lulubelle and Scotty) "The National Barn Dance"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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