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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 189
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OTR books for sale                    [ "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Lone Ranger pedometer                 [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
      Amos 'n' Andy                         [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
      Benny 12/15/40                        [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      The Froth Estate                      [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
      Scariest Show                         [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      Richard Boone                         [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      Copying at midnight                   [ Radioclass <radioclass@[removed] ]
      Godfrey on AFRS                       [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
      Canadian Shows                        [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
      Air Checks or not?                    [ Tom Hood <thood@[removed]; ]
      Internet radio                        [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
      6-21 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      WTIC's "The Golden Age of Radio"      [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
      12" v. 16" transcriptions             [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:59:50 +0000
    From: "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR books for sale

    I have some extra copies of OTR books to sell,

    ie. Erik Barnouw's "The Image Empire and the Golden Web,";

    anthologies of radio plays: ie The Free Company Presents, The Treasury Star
    Parade, Free World Theater, several Corwin volumes, We Stand United by
    Stephen Vincent Benet, Plays from Radio etc.

    biographies of Walter Winchell and Elmer Davis, various bios of Orson
    Welles etc

    This Was Radio by Joseph Julian,  Maltin's The Great American Broadcast,
    Five Directors: The Golden Years of Radio

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:09 +0000
    From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lone Ranger pedometer
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    Richard Rieve inquired about the Lone Ranger pedometer offer and wondered why
    there were no promotions on the programs that directly involved the promotion.
    That's because SPERDVAC has the transcriptions that were fed to Chicago a
    half-hour before the program was broadcast live.  Only the live performances
    featured the announcer hawking the premium.  This was probably because the air
    dates of the recorded programs might not always coincide with the period
    during which the promotion was active.  I can't remember exactly what I sent
    in to get the pedometer, but I hope it wasn't more than one Cheerios boxtop
    and a dime, because the darn thing lasted about three days and broke!

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:21 +0000
    From: wilditralian@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Amos 'n' Andy

    06-20-05

    Trina Preston writes, "Can somebody tell me exactly what day of the week
    Amos and Andy show ran the
    longest on the radio?  Was it a Friday or Tuesday?"

    I don't know the answer to that but, as a bit of sideline info -- you're
    speaking of when Amos 'n' Andy was on once a week for half an hour.
    Don't forget that there was a time when they were on every week night for
    15 minutes!  It was at approximately 8:00 PM, and both Gimbel's and
    Macy's broadcast it over their PA systems, because if they didn't, their
    stores would be empty at that time of night because nobody wanted to miss
    it.

    Regards,

    Jim Arva

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:34 +0000
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Benny 12/15/40

    George Tirebiter writes:

     > There is a bit between Jack and a quack doctor. After it ends Jack  says
     > something like  "The doctor doesn't sound like he did in the first show.
     > That's  the great thing about radio, if your doctor gets sick you can
     > substitute one of your writers instead".  So, obviously, this is a recording
     > of a West Coast broadcast and something happened to the actor who played the
     > doctor in the East Coast broadcast and one of  Jack's writers had to
     > fill in for him.  Does anyone have more details, like who was the actor in
     > the first broadcast, what happened to him and who filled in?

    The doctor was played by Frank Nelson in the first version.  I'd be
    interested to get a copy of your version, because all mine are the East Coast
    broadcast.  Not having Frank Nelson play this part would have been
    a  non-sequitur,
    because you can hear people reacting to Nelson's delivery and Mary  notes
    "hey,
    it's that doctor you had in Hollywood".  Both Ed Beloin and  Bill Morrow
    already had speaking parts in the script (as Sylvester and Pancake,
    respectively), and they had enough on-mike experience that it would have
    been  easy for
    either of them to pick up the part.  In listening to the East  Coast version,
    Nelson doesn't have a lot of "welly" in his delivery ([removed], lacks  strength or
    punch), but Nelson hadn't fully developed his character yet into
    the  obnoxious
    ticket clerk, etc. that we usually think of for him.  So I hadn't  given his
    somewhat soft delivery much thought until now.

    --Laura  Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:50 +0000
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Froth Estate

    I picked up a great little book last week, THE FROTH ESTATE, written by
    Joseph Mackey (any relation to our own Joe Mackey?)

    Mackey's book, published in 1946 by Prentice-Hall, is a series of anecdotes
    compiled during  ten years with the New York Sun.  It is replete with
    fascinating stories of OTR and movie personalities,  including Mary
    Margaret McBride ( and her pet goat, Pierrot),  Tallula Bankhead, John
    Barrymore, George Jessell, Frank Sinatra, Boris Karloff, Roland Young, Pat
    O'Brien, Ilka Chase, and the list goes on and on. The writing is sharp,
    funny, and marvelously descriptive.

    One of my favorites is about Salvador Dali, who was under contract to
    Bonwit Teller to produce two window displays.  Dali called them "Night" and
    "Day."  "Day" was represented by "a mannequin with long red hair dressed in
    a green negligee and feathers, gazing into a bathtub lined with Persian
    lamb, in which floated narcissuses."

    The store apparently changed  "Day" a bit, and when Dali saw what had been
    done to his exhibit,  he leaped into the show window, "threshed around and
    tugged at the fur-lined bathtub," and eventually crashed through the
    plate-glass window.

    He was arrested by some passing detectives and charged with disorderly
    conduct. The Night Court Judge suspended his sentence because "an artist
    deserved certain privileges."

    If you can find the book, I am sure you'll enjoy it.  Its 236 pages really
    zing!

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:01:03 +0000
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Scariest Show

          IMHO, the scariest OTR show I ever heard was an
    episode of "Suspense" titled "Uncle Henry's Rosebush"
    starring Agnes Moorehead. It was about a young woman
    who was engaged to be married who returned to her uncle
    and aunts home in a small town, only to find that everything
    was not as she remembered it! You MUST hear this if you
    get the chance. Miss Moorehead gives a wonderful performance
    equal to, or better, than the one she gave in "Sorry, Wrong
    Number"!

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:01:54 +0000
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Richard Boone

            I was looking at the births/deaths list and noticed
    a listing for Richard Boone. It listed his credits as "Dragnet".
    Wasn't Jack Webb the star of "Dragnet"? I don't remember
    Richard Boone ever appearing on that program. I always seem
    to equate Mr. Boone with the role of Wire Palladin on TV's
    "Have Gun, Will Travel". I believe John Dehner played the same
    role on the OTR version of the program, but I could be mistaken.

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:02:15 +0000
    From: Radioclass <radioclass@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Copying at midnight
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    Hi all

    I have recorded hundreds of shows that were on the radio at midnight onto
    cassettes.  Since I had to get up at 4:30 in the morning, I used a tape
    player/recorder that had a timer.  A few months ago, this recorder started
    destroying my tapes when on timed recording.  Cleaning the heads hasn't
    helped.  As many folks have noted in several digests, saving shows on
    cassettes seems to be going the way of the dinosaurs.  Can I use a DVD
    recorder to copy radio shows, using a timer, onto CDs?  Or, any other
    suggestions for recording shows that are on at inconvenient times?

    Thanks

    Anne

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:05:54 +0000
    From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Godfrey on AFRS

    I have two excerpts from Godfrey shows that were
    distributed on AFRTS, so his show was surely heard
    around the world, because AFRTS was available via Sw
    until the late 1980s.

    Michael Berger

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:06:14 +0000
    From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Canadian Shows
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    Hey, folks!
    Thanks for all of the great response to my query about your choice of the
    scariest radio shows you have heard.
    Now, for a more modern topic. I have fallen in love with the Canadian
    Broadcasting Company(CBC) Mystery Project. Where can I get the whole series of
    shows? Anyone have any for trade or sale?
    Let me know off list, please.
    Thanks,
    Randy Story
    West Plains, MO
    (The town that is playing host to the National Audio Theater Festival Workshop
    this week!)

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:06:41 +0000
    From: Tom Hood <thood@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Air Checks or not?

    Hi All
    In 1926 Nellie Melba the great Australian soprano retired . She gave a
    final retirement concert at the Royal Opera House,Covent Garden,London on
    June 8 [removed] concert was broadcast by the BBC both on Medium & Short Wave.
    The Gramophone Company Recorded portions of the performance on their own
    equipment not from the BBC feed.
    My question is do these recordings (which still exist) qualify
    as air checks? In the same catagory the inaugeration of Herbert Hoover was
    recorded on sound motion picture film in 1929 again not from the NBC
    [removed] of this film [removed] the sound track an air check? I am sure
    there are other examples like this. Has this question ever been addressed?
    Tom Hood

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:03:24 +0000
    From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Internet radio

    Charles forwarded us the url for WNAR and mentioned
    "great programming, day and night" but if you are
    tuning in looking for oldtime radio, you won't find it
    day and night.  It is Christian programming, supplied
    by 3 Angels Broadcasting and aired on WNAR
    which is a low power FM station.  For otr, there are
    about a half-dozen internet-only stations airing otr
    day and night.  This station has nothing to do with
    oldtime radio.

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:03:38 +0000
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  6-21 births/deaths

    June 21st births

    A personal note, it was 51 years ago this date that I was inducted into the
    Navy

    06-21-1880 - Mary Young - d. 6-23-1971
    actress: Lily "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"
    06-21-1900 - Jack Arthur - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-1-1980
    singer, emcee: "Echoes of New York"; "Family Time"; "Jack Arthur Show"
    06-21-1907 - Charles 'Bud' Dant - d. 10-31-1999
    music: "A Day in the Life of Dennis Day"; "Glamour Manor"
    06-21-1911 - Irving Fein - NYC
    producer: "Jack Benny Program"
    06-21-1912 - Mary McCarthy - Seattle, WA - d. 10-25-1989
    novelist: "Guest Star Time"
    06-21-1921 - Jane Russell - Bemidji, MN
    actress: Guest Detective: "Adventures of Ellery Queen"
    06-21-1921 - Joan Tetzel - NYC - d. 10-31-1977
    actress: Sylvia Field "When a Girl Marries"; Jane Brown "The Goldbergs"
    06-21-1921 - Judy Holliday - NYC - d. 6-7-1965
    actress: "Big Show"
    06-21-1925 - Byron Palmer - Los Angeles, CA
    actor: "Plays for Americans"
    06-21-1925 - Maureen Stapleton - Troy, NY
    actress: "Best Plays"

    June 21st deaths

    04-07-1908 - Walt Framer - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-21-1988
    producer, director: "Break the Bank"; "Strike It Rich"
    06-07-1908 - Clarence Straight - d. 6-21-1988
    actor: Rags the Dog "Those We Love"
    06-09-1922 - George Axelrod - NYC - d. 6-21-2003
    writer: "Midnight in Manhattan"; "Grand Ole Opry"
    07-07-1903 - Joe Boland - d. 6-21-1987
    actor: Police Sergeant "Abie's Irish Rose"
    08-27-1908 - Frank Leahy - O'Neill, NE - d. 6-21-1973
    football coach (Notre Dame): "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "Bill Stern Colgate
    Sports Newsreel"
    11-18-1860 - Jan Ignace Paderewski - Kurilovka. Poland - d. 6-21-1941
    concert pianist, statesman: "Paderewski's Eightieth Birthday Tribute"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:03:51 +0000
    From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  WTIC's "The Golden Age of Radio"

    The latest "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" programs
    with Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran, can be heard at
    [removed]

    We present three complete shows in MP3 format for
    your listening pleasure or for downloading, plus a bonus:
    the NBC newscast as broadcast by WTIC preceding the
    first Golden Age show in April, 1970. The programs will
    be available on line until at least Wednesday, July 6th, or
    later.

    Program 44: November, 1973 - Howard Duff

    Hardcase leading man Howard Duff built his reputation
    on radio, where among several other assignments he was
    cast as Dashiell Hammett's two-fisted private eye Sam
    Spade. He made so vivid an impression in this role that,
    when cast in his first film Brute Force (1947), he was
    given special billing in the credits as "radio's Sam Spade."

    Program 45 - December, 1973 - Himan Brown

    Legendary Producer/Director/Creator, Himan Brown's
    productions include audio works such as Inner Sanctum,
    The Thin Man, CBS Radio Mystery Theater, Terry and the
    Pirates, Bulldog Drummond,  Dick Tracy, Adventure
    Theater, Grand Central Station, and an endless list of
    daytime soap operas. Himan Brown continues to produce
    quality audio drama before live audiences and tapes them
    for distribution. He also lectures and teaches.

    Program 46 - January, 1974 - Aldo Gisalbert (Part 2)

    Aldo Gisalbert, NBC studio engineer continues his
    discussion of the very early days of the NBC network.

    In its earliest days NBC operated two networks: NBC
    Blue, headed by station WJZ, and NBC Red, headed by
    WEAF. This situation arose, due to NBC then owning
    two stations in New York (WEAF and WJZ). WEAF
    and the 'Red' Network became the flagship network
    and offered most of the established shows--and
    advertisers, and the 'Blue' Network carried most of the
    sustaining shows.

    Bonus - NBC Newscast from April, 1970

    When The Golden Age of Radio broadcast its first
    show on April 10th, 1970 Richard Nixon was President.
    Earlier that day Paul McCartney announced that the
    Beatles would never work together again.  Kent State
    had not yet exploded into the headlines and computer
    floppy discs were about to be introduced.

    What else was happening in the United States and the
    world on April 10th, 1970?  We thought you might
    enjoy listening to the NBC newscast that preceded that
    first "Golden Age" broadcast 35 years ago. You'll hear
    the WTIC signature "V" followed by the NBC news and
    the weather forcast from the Travelers Weather Service.

    In the 1970's Dick Bertel created the program "The Golden
    Age of Radio"for WTIC in Hartford, CT. The idea came to
    Dick after he interviewed radio collector-historian Ed
    Corcoran a few times on his radio and  TV shows. "The
    Golden Age of Radio was first broadcast in  April, 1970;
      Ed was Dick's co-host.

    For the next seven years the program featured interviews with
    actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians from radio's
    early days. Each show featured excerpts from Ed's collection.

    "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights
    on Walden Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

    Bob Scherago
    Webmaster

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:04:02 +0000
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  12" v. 16" transcriptions

    Lee Munsick continued this wonderful discussion of radio transcription
    sizes.

    Radio transcriptions came in both 12 and 16 inch sizes and are both
    appropriately called "radio transcriptions" or "electrical transcriptions".

    While we in the OTR world generally associate transcriptions with 16"
    records, they were made in the 12" variety during the 30s, although to be
    sure, the ones I have seen in this format are all music library
    transcriptions or 12" 78 rpm records of the late 20s/early 30s for some
    programs. They turn up on a certain net auction site not too infrequently
    and in the mail order catalogs of vintage record dealers like Kurt Nauck,
    Don Lukowski and Alan Cooperman. As a side note, in Europe, broadcasters
    stayed with the 12" 78 rpm record for recording and broadcasting purposes. I
    don't know what kind of industry they had for syndicating radio shows. 16"
    records were predominate in the American industry. In the later years of the
    OTR era, as LP cartridges and styli became common place and coarse groove
    equipment disappeared from the marketplace,  16" records were cut using
    microgrooves. 16" records eventually disappeared as well and 12" microgroove
    records and open reel tape took over as the medium of choice for
    broadcasters. All of these formats are qualified as radio transcriptions
    IMO, since they were used to distribute programming to radio stations.

    As much as I love 16" records, I have never cared as much what format a
    radio show or sound recording survived in, but that it did survive.

    Do we have listers here that could comment on the methods of program
    distribution used in Europe or Australia?

    joe salerno

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