Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #37
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 1/25/2003 10:07 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 37
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Uncle Don?                            [ knight555@[removed] ]
  Question about Performing             [ MAGICIN95@[removed] ]
  Portable Radio Stations               [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
  Don Stanley                           [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  Bob Everhart                          [ John McCourt <jop_mccourt@[removed] ]
  Richard Simmons/Harry Potter          [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
  Memorial for Richard Crenna           [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  Wayne Rainey - Raney                  [ John McCourt <jop_mccourt@[removed] ]
  Graham McNamee                        [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
  A Missing Page                        [ JHFriedline@[removed] ]
  Accents                               [ Bruce Young <youngsphotos@[removed]; ]
  Lucile Fletcher on Suspense           [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
  Annie Oakley and Thomas Edison        [ bruce humphries <cherubim1234@yahoo ]
  Tastes Also Evolve                    [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
  Re: FOTR/CBSRMT                       [ Twizoner@[removed] ]
  Halls of Ivy                          [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  KMOX Interview Bumped                 [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  laser turntable                       [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  My Master List                        [ "Li'l Reader Books" <lilreader2@yah ]
  Inner Sanctum -- 520921 Corpse Nobod  [ "Noctaire" <noctaire@[removed]; ]
  accents on radio                      [ "Noctaire" <noctaire@[removed]; ]
  Re: Standard School Broadcast         [ M Kidd <bearfootn65@[removed]; ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:36:42 -0500
From: knight555@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Uncle Don?

My son came home from school today and said one of his teachers had told
them about a children's radio show starring "Uncle Don" which was extremely
popular.  According to the teacher, the show went off the air after Uncle
Don made a derisive remark using the "f word" about kids when the show
was"over" but the mike was still open.  My son would like to know if anyone
knows what the show was?  His teacher didn't elaborate more than that but
said the show was extremely popular.  Thanks.  MJS

[ADMINISTRIVIA: This urban legend is thouroughly debunked at:

[removed]

--cfs3]

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:39:42 -0500
From: MAGICIN95@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Question about Performing
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Forgive me if this question is either over done or down right dumb, but it
occurred to me the other night and I thought that the kind folks on this list
would be able to provide an answer.

I've seen staged productions of radio shows that are played in front of a
live audience and the performers tend to read from scripts with very little,
or no, physical performance.  The other night as I was listening to an
episode of Amos & Andy, the audience reaction to Madame Queen's entrance
sounded exactly like the actress had entered the room.

My question: was it common for radio shows performed in front of a live
audience to provide some sort of live performance other than the reading of
the script?

Janet

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:37:08 -0500
From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Portable Radio Stations

<Robert Angus posted a question for Broadcast Historians:

I have a reply from Donna Halper  dlh@[removed]
a Broadcast Historian, instructor at Emerson College, a published author and
a broadcast consultant in Boston who wrote an article about portable radio
stations for The Broadcast Archives in 1998.  The URL is:
[removed]

Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:39:30 -0500
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Don Stanley

The LA Times yesterday reported the death of announcer Don Stanley of cancer
at age 85.

Don was an honorary SPERDVAC member and attended many of our conventions. He
was the voice of NBC for 46 years. He can be heard on many of the old time
radio programs broadcast on NBC.

He was born in Stoughton, Wisconsin, and began his radio career in
Milwaukee, where he was a news commentator and staff announcer. In 1944, Don
moved on to NBC radio at Sunset and Vine Hollywood and worked with many of
the film stars of the day, including Bette Davis, Charles Boyer, Errol
Flynn, and President Ronald Reagan. When NBC moved to Burbank, Don worked as
a staff announcer and was heard on many shows during the golden years of
television.

Services will be held Sunday, January 26, at 12 pm at Pierce Brothers Valley
Oaks Chapel, Westlake Village. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to
the American Cancer Society.

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:45:32 -0500
From: John McCourt <jop_mccourt@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bob Everhart

From: JayHick@[removed]
<snip>
For information contact Bob Everhart at
Box 492, Walnut, IA 51577 (712) 762-4363 <bobeverhart@[removed];.

I was surprised to see Bob Everhard mentioned. I lost
contact with him some years and welcome the
opportunity to get in touch. I am greatly indebted to
Jay.

John McCourt.

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:44:13 -0500
From: Derek Tague  <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Richard Simmons/Harry Potter

It's me again,  Gang!

    Being that I work at a job full of non-OTR initiates, I thought I'd
attempt to see what kind of reaction I'd get from my colleagues  the morning I
read the newswire report of actor Richard Simmons's passing. I'd say, "Didja
hear Richard Simmons died?" Several co-workers unwittingly took the bait and
inquired "You mean the exercise guy?"
I'd somberly reply, "[removed] mean the actor who played 'Sgt. Preston' on 1950's
TV."  My buddy Bruce hazarded "When you said 'Richard Simmons," I thought you
were talking about THE Richard Simmons." My  response was
"I was!"

     Anyway, has anybody out there in the ether devised a good-natured term
that we OTRers can call non-fans? You know, on the par with how the "Rocky
Horror Picture Show" crowd refers to first-time viewers as "virgins," or how
Harry Potter & his wizard friends call non-sorcerers "muggles."  Would
somebody out there please
come up with a non-meanspirited term for such OTR "civilians"  so that I don't
have to keep typing out the long & clunky-sounding "non-OTR-initiates?"

     Hey, I just thought of something. In England, the name "Harry" is often
short for "Henry" [case in point, the UK tabloids refer to Prince Henry as
"Prince Harry"]. Being that Harry Potter deals in "magicks unholy" (to use one
of Alistair Crowley's turns of phrase), would that make him  "Henry!...Henry
Eldritch!"?

     Sounds like a script idea to me. Hey, Steve [removed] on it!

Ethereally,

Derek Tague

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:38:02 -0500
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Memorial for Richard Crenna

I just found out that the memorial for Richard Crenna will be held tomorrow
(Saturday) at 11 AM at the TV Academy at the corner of Magnolia and
Lankershim in North Hollywood.

To answer another question, Dick Simmons died on Jan 11, 2003 of Alzheimer's
in a nursing home in California. There was a nice editorial about him in the
January 20 LA Times. If you can't access it, let me know and I'll email you
a copy.

Barbara

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:46:11 -0500
From: John McCourt <jop_mccourt@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Wayne Rainey - Raney

From: "Bob & Carol Taylor" <qth4@[removed];
<snip>
This day Jan. 23 is the tenth anniversary of Wayne
Rainey's death.

Is this Wayne Raney, the country singer?

John McCourt.

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:46:51 -0500
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Graham McNamee

I recently read about announcer Graham McNamee.
Was this the same man who worked with Ed Wynn on the
Texaco Fire Chief program?  I recall during some of the
skits that Ed Wynn called the announcer Graham.

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:47:05 -0500
From: JHFriedline@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  A Missing Page

Greetings

     While I am a fairly new collector of OTR programs, I grew up listening
to them.  Some of my fondist memories were sitting in my bedroom doing my
homework listening to the radio.   It is with sadness that I hear of the
deaths of so many of those stars, who were a part of my life as a child.

    But enough of the memories.  In my research for background information on
the programs in the collection (yes another detail freak)  I found a library
copy of "A Thirty-Year History of Radio Programs 1926 - 1956"  edited by
Harrison B. Summers.   While the book is in fair condition pages  7 and 8
have been  cut from the book.  If anyone has a copy,and can tell me what was
on those pages, it would be a great help.  An e-mailed copy would be nice
too.  Thanks

Mean while back at the ranch,

Jim Friedline

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:46:35 -0500
From: Bruce Young <youngsphotos@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Accents

Daniel J Boorstin, former librarian of Congress and historian, says in
one of his books that the American accent at the time of the Revolution
was probably similar to the 'Southern accent'. So thing really have
changed.

On a similar note-notice how all actors pronounce certain words different
than most of us and different from the preferred pronunciations in the
dictionary.

Bruce

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:47:22 -0500
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lucile Fletcher on Suspense

Hello:
Is there a way to find out the names of all of the plays authored by Lucile
Fletcher on Suspense?  I know that she wrote "Sorry, Wrong Number," "The
Hitch-hiker," "Fugue in C Minor," "The Furnished Floor," and "The Diary of
Sufronia Winters," but what other Suspense plays has she penned?  Is there a
guide somewhere that might give detailed descriptions of each show?
RyanO

"Eagles may soar, but a weasel never got sucked into a jet engine."

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:47:42 -0500
From: bruce humphries <cherubim1234@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Annie Oakley and Thomas Edison

HEY ALL,

this is an very odd request. But I'm doing some
research on Annie Oakley and Thomas Edison. I've found
early film archives of each - but does anyone on this
list have a hint if there were 'audio' archives of
either of these people?

You can e- me.

Thanks for the help,

love the list, what a treasure trove!

bruce

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:48:00 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tastes Also Evolve

Ron Sayles, anent Ozzie and Harriet, observes,

I must agree with my good friend Mike. He hits the nail right on the
head. I liken The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet to the Amos 'n Andy
Show, neither one of which was a shining example of what good radio was
all about.

"Good radio" is, as I noted before, is inherently subjective.  Some
people like gentle humor at times.  Another relatively gentle show,
though less a comedy, was The Halls of Ivy.  Even a really terrible show
may have a charm, I cite as an example Mr. Keen, Tracer of Lost Persons.

Tastes vary, and I would no more pan a show that I don't have a personal
bias toward than I would expect someone to knock a show that I favored.

Now when I was a little one, listening to Smilin' Ed McConnell and His
Buster Brown Gang was a treat, though absolutely predictable.  Having
Froggy snap his magic twanger to become visible, or bedevil Mr. Jim
Nasium was fun, even though he'd done the same sort of things each week.
Listening to the same programs as a grownup elicits different feelings --
because I'm older and my perspective has broadened.  Philosophically,
this might not always be an improvement, but it certainly is a fact.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:48:29 -0500
From: Twizoner@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: FOTR/CBSRMT

Derek Tague wrote

At FOTR/Newark in 1999, I had the pleasure of moderating a
panel about "The CBS Radio Mystery Theatre," ... It was one of the
highlights
of the convention. Someday--not this year--I'll ask Jay Hickerson if I can
stage "CBSRMT--Part II.

As a long-time FOTR convention attendee, I would definitely like to see a
CBSRMT Part II.  The recent thread about how list members became interested
in OTR shows how influential this program was for many of us.  Maybe, the
General Mills Adventure Theater and the Sears Radio Theater could also be
incorporated into the panel.

Mike K

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:48:40 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Halls of Ivy

Hi Everybody,  Chris ask about a book on Halls of Ivy.  I would suggest
check out Sam Frank book on Ronald Coleman at Greenwood Press.  I have not
check out my self yet, but he was a big fan of Ronald and did allot of work
checking the files at UCLA and put together a detail log of the radio show.
Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:49:03 -0500
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  KMOX Interview Bumped

Since my e-mail traffic indicates that there is some interest in my pending
KMOX St. Louis interview on old time radio originally scheduled for this
Sunday night for John Carney's program, I'll note here that I've been
bumped.  KMOX is simulcasting the Super Bowl (is St. Louis one of the cities
the Raiders have played in, I lose [removed]) and since Carney's show isn't
going to start until very late, they've decided to put me on the February 2,
2003 show instead.  I should be on around 8:10 CST according to the
producer.

I'll still be talking about old time radio on the Internet and fan
conventions -- two areas where I don't know enough to go over the audiences'
heads.

I'll make sure to plug the upcoming Cincinnati Convention in particular
(although I just got my flyer for REPS - have to mention them as well as my
hometown FOTR).  Let me know if anyone calls afterward.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:50:01 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  laser turntable

I'm a record collector. Also, I'm totally blind, and so I joke that
purchasing this laser turntable will be my "car," since most people >buy
a car for this kind of price, or more. Go to [removed].

Well, I had a look at the website shown above.  The unit looks very much
like a big CD player.  The record goes in a drawer.

The price is anywhere from US$9,000 to US$13,000, depending on the model.
The price seems to be dependent upon the variety of record sizes and speeds
that can be played.

A good deal of the website is devoted to justifying the price of the unit.
This seems rather odd, because high-end audio fans will buy darned near
anything if it seems exotic enough.  And that's the sort of consumer that
this turntable would appeal to.

I'm just a bit suspicious of the website's technical discussion, if only
because it contained at least one error: they say that a CD player has one
laser beam, while their machine uses nine.  But that's wrong: a CD player
uses three laser beams.  The rest of the discussion didn't ring entirely
true to me, either: for example, the photographs of record damage due to
playing with a stylus were fuzzy and didn't include information on the
cartridge that caused the damage.

Even assuming that the entire discussion was legitimate and the device is as
good as claimed, I'm not sure that I see much of advantage for a record
collector on a limited budget.  It is true that a laser pickup will cause no
wear on the record, but it's all a question of degree: a high-quality,
high-compliance moving coil phonograph cartridge mounted in a good quality
tone arm will cause negligible record wear even after many playings, if the
records are clean.  And they have to be clean to play with this
turntable--the manufacturers sell a $[removed] record-cleaning device along
with their machine.

I'd really like to hear Prof Biel's comments on this, if Charlie will permit
this discussion to proceed briefly.  (I'll understand if he doesn't, of
course.)

Mark Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130  740-687-6368
[removed]~kinsler

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:50:20 -0500
From: "Li'l Reader Books" <lilreader2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  My Master List

Hello eveyrone, I'm going to do a major udate to my website
tonight, so I figured I would let eveyrone know.

[removed]

I am going to add alot more listing from the new disks I have
received over the last 2 weeks, I now have about 45 disks in my
collection now. So I am now able to fill more request. If you are
seeking anything just give the site a look and see if there is
something you want. if you seek only a few shows 10 or so less, I
am able send them to you by Drop Chute. If you want alot more than
that just send me an e-mail:

lilreader2 at yahoo dot com

and request a cd or two, just send me your name and address and the
cd#'s you want. I will send you copys in the next week. If you
seek any other shows not listed on my site - ask me an I will see if
I can find them for you, I would like to help. Just go to my site
and click the chat button - it will buzz me and if I am around I
will answere any questions you have.  I enjoy this list very much.  hopet
to hear from you soon.

well it's time for me to start working - have fun collecting :)

--lilreader
it's up and running - [removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:57:59 -0500
From: "Noctaire" <noctaire@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Inner Sanctum -- 520921 Corpse Nobody Loved

I am hunting down an MP3 of this episode of Inner Sanctum (The Corpse Nobody
Loved).  Lucky me, every copy I've laid hands on has been incomplete -- they
all go for about 21 minutes and cut off there.  If anyone has a copy they'd
be willing to share I'd be much appreciative -- it's driving me nuts.

James

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:58:21 -0500
From: "Noctaire" <noctaire@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  accents on radio

My majors in HS were Drama and Vocal Music (many moons ago, but
[removed]).  Two concepts that were drummed into us were enunciation
and clear speech.  That meant no accents -- northern, southern, midwestern,
country-western.  The only time a time an accent was acceptable was when it
was required for a part.  Speech coaches are common in acting -- they even
poked fun at it half a century ago in Singin' in the Rain.  :)

The point I'm trying to make is that I don't think this is so much a case of
our losing our accents as it is that of our professional requirement that
they not be present.  Accents tend to identify individuals with certain
stereotypes -- bad news for an actor or broadcaster -- as well as muddle up
what one says.  In short -- it is a goal to eliminate accents in
professional venues.  As with the entertainment profession, many
suit-and-tie professionals have trimmed their accents back to make it easier
to interact with others but I don't think this to be the case with others.

As someone who has had the opportunity to travel about the eastern part of
the US a bit, I find that accents are still rich and alive among common,
every day folk.  What's worse, I fall into local accents very quickly and
easily (also a throwback to my training) -- works well for communicating
with the locals, what can I say.  Friends & family hate when I come back
from a trip as it usually takes me a day or two to lose my newly found
accent.  :)

Noc

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:58:45 -0500
From: M Kidd <bearfootn65@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Standard School Broadcast
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Does anyone know if or where the old recordings for the Standard School
Broadcast might be.  In 1994 (before I got ill), I was trying to track them
down and received a letter fromt the Chevron Corp., in San Francisco, saying
the discs were donated to a Stanford Archive of Recorded Sound.
 Many discs apparently were destroyed; a name and phone number were included
in the letter, but I misplaced the information and have just been able to
find it this past fall.  A name was given: Barbara Swaka, phone #
415-723-9312; this number does not come up in a search, nor does the name.
Is anyone familiar with the Archive?

Copies of magazine articles were included with the letter.

Thanks, bearfootn65@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:58:55 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

>From Those Were The Days --

1927 - Jack Benny married Sadye Marks on this day.

1937 - NBC presented the first broadcast of The Guiding Light.

1944 - The character, a black maid named Beulah and played by a white
man, Marlin Hunt, aired for the first time on Fibber McGee and Molly.
The spinoff, Beulah, became a radio series in 1945.

  Joe

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