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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 234
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
more otr writers wanted [ bloodbleeds@[removed] ]
Phantom Pirate? [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
Input appreciated [ MAGICIN95@[removed] ]
Radio Spirits/Radio Yesteryear [ Mike Thompson <mike9986@[removed] ]
Censorship or standards? [ gad4@[removed] ]
Operation Danger [ "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed]; ]
possible Media Bay answer [ "Nemesis@[removed]" <nemesis@[removed] ]
MP3 Giveaway VII [ "Richard Carpenter" <sinatra@raging ]
Re: OTR on Sirius Satellite Radio [ "Bob Watson" <crw912@[removed]; ]
comics/radio/noisy picture box [ Birdwalk Farms <pheadoux@[removed]; ]
ceramic figurine [ nicoll <nicoll@[removed]; ]
Radio Spirits [ "evan torch" <etorch@[removed] ]
STARDUST [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:10:57 -0400
From: bloodbleeds@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: more otr writers wanted
Hi there. Some of you may've heard about the otr fiction book I'm putting together. I have
over 10 writers on it, including myself, but some have dropped out. Therefore there's still
room for more short stories. I'd prefer people who have written for nostalgia publications
before, and would rather stay away from known copyrighted shows like The Lone Ranger,
and shows that did not begin as radio shows ([removed] The Thin Man, Superman, etc.).
If you'd like more details, send me an email. Thanks.
Ben Ohmart
The Great Gildersleeve book
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:14:58 -0400
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Phantom Pirate?
After getting ZERO replies to my last question (about the Black Pearl of
Osiris and Red Jacoby being in more than one series), I'll try again.
Does anyone have any information about a show (serial, I think) called
The Phantom Pirate? Network? Number of shows? Stars?
Arlene Osborne
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:07:17 -0400
From: MAGICIN95@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Input appreciated
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I'm a long time reader who has come out of lurkdom to ask a favor. I
recently began development of a website devoted to collecting information
about other websites, newsgroups, email groups, etc devoted to OTR. Why?
Because after many years of search engines, disorganized bookmarks, lost
information and just plain confusion, I thought it might be helpful for other
novice collectors like myself who are looking for sites devoted to whatever
it is they are looking for.
I've pulled together everything I could find in my searches, but I know there
is a lot I've either missed or not aware of. I'd be grateful if you would
take a few minutes to visit and let me know what you think.
Many thanks!
Janet
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:08:27 -0400
From: Mike Thompson <mike9986@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Spirits/Radio Yesteryear
Harlan wrote:
Some of the inventory of tapes and tape sets sold by Radio Yesteryear
and the others were liquidated at lower prices through the RS catalog.
Does anyone know where I can get some of those old Radio Yesteryear
tape sets? I'm particularly looking for the Burns and Allen
collections (which RY handled better than RS; RS only sells in their
collections the episodes with big-name guest stars, and completely
ignores continuity. RY didn't do that). Can anyone help me out?
Thanks,
Mike, a newbie to this list
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My site: [removed]
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:12:56 -0400
From: gad4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Censorship or standards?
I have followed this tread for a bit and was debating on responding. There
were many points that I have learned while reading it which I am grateful
for people's sharing.
When I read Mr Mayer's letter, I get the impression of his letter is
censorship vs. quality. With the greatest respect, I have to disagree with him.
The first piece of information I need to address is that of his use of the
word censorship. To the best of my knowledge the comics field, the radio
field, the movie field, etc were not under any government censorship. Yes,
there were "investigations" (which our government appears good at regarding
any topic under the sun) yet the comics code was run by the comics community
and the comic companies volunteered to submit their work to. At this time,
many comics no longer volunteer to submit, but that's the way it was. The
same thing is true with the movie industry. At one point, they kept their
movies to a certain standard, now they no longer do that.
Standards, on the other hand, are those items that we submit ourselves (and
families) to. Hopefully all of us try to keep our personal standards to as
high a level as we possibly can. With the media at that time, I personally
dont believe they kept the standards for the reason of being a positive
influence of youth and america. I believe the main reason they did it was
because of money. They wanted to come out with a product that all america
would buy.
To imply that quality was hurt by the standards of the time, I cant agree
with. When I think of comedy, I think one of the greatest shows ever done
was the Jack Benny show. There was nothing more sophisticated and funny with
some of the greatest character development than on that show. Even jokes
about censorship like the "hoover darn" tend to get a belly laugh. When I
look at movies, some of the classiest movies Ive ever seen came out of the
30s to 50s. Movies like cassablanca, the hitchcock movies, etc, remain
timeless, and able to get very intellectual points across (I avoid using the
word adult points, because the word appears to be misused in our day in age.)
At this point in time, those days are far behind. No longer do Lucy and
Ricky need to sleep in separate beds or Jack Parr being unable to say a
certain word. Yet I dont look at them in distain. Because when I look at
tv today, I dont like what I see. The people who write comedies today rely
on dirty jokes and situations. If they had to do as classy an act as those
before them, they couldnt. While Jack Parr had to refrain himself from
saying a certain word on tv, now we have a generation where parents are out
working and the only thing on tv shows certain times of the day is teaching
them things adults shouldnt even be thinking about.
If someone prefers the material made today, where actors have to say dirty
words or show their bodies in order to get work, I guess that's there
business. But me personally, I kind of like the old days better. And that's
one thing I like about otr.
None of us can do anything we want to, nor will that ever be the case. But
my thoughts are that Id rather live in a world where certain things cant be
done because it can hurt someone than in a world where my boss would tell me
I have to do certain things I believe wrong to excite desires in the masses
which they shouldnt have. Id like what Im doing to have the effect of
encouraging someone to raise their standards rather than lower them.
As someone once said, with power comes responsibility.
Guess thats enough for now:)
George
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:13:30 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Operation Danger
Would like information on a show called "Operation Danger". The copy I have
is dated 6/25/58. It is on CBS, requests you to "tune in next [removed]".
It stars Howard Culver as a captain of the Counter-Intelligence Corps, with
cast members Joan Banks, Ben Wright, Paul Frees, Ted Von Eltz, Fritz Feld,
Rick Val_?__; music by Van Cleef(?); and producer was William N. Robson.
This is not listed in Dunning's and I am curious to have more information.
Lois Culver
KWLK Radio (Mutual) Longview, WA 1941-44
KFI Radio (NBC) Los Angeles CA 1945-47, 50-53
Widow of Howard Culver, actor (1950-84)
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:13:52 -0400
From: "Nemesis@[removed]" <nemesis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: possible Media Bay answer
While listening to KNX1070's internet OTR broadcast, I found out what Media
Bay might be doing with at least some of the RSI [removed] are offering a
subscription service for OTR and books, etc. There's a 20-hour free trial
and the service is $[removed] a month for 20 hours a month (extra if you want to
download more than that).
Linda Thuringer
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:14:18 -0400
From: "Richard Carpenter" <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 Giveaway VII
I have one more "Suspense" MP3 CD-ROM to give away. This one contains 102
tracks, the last two of which have a dragging sound. Other than that, they
play fine. The title list does note, however, that one show is missing the
ending and another the beginning. Nonetheless, there are a lot of fine
shows here. They're not dated but have such titles as "Murder in G Flat,"
"Rogue Male," and "Track of the Cat." I'll send the CD to the first person
who e-mails me (and, alas, only the first: I can't, don't, won't make copies
and sell them). Happy e-mailing.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:14:52 -0400
From: "Bob Watson" <crw912@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: OTR on Sirius Satellite Radio
Someone asked the other day about whether it was worth the $13 a month
subscription fee for Sirius radio in order to pick up the RadioClassics
channel. I have never heard the station, but last night while doing a
websearch for old radio replicas, I stumbled across the RadioClassics
website. [removed].
Apparently, from the appearance of the website, Sirius isn't the only one
who will be carrying the station. They are on the web via RealOne's
service, which is $10 a month. So if anyone has that, maybe they can check
it out that way. The website indicates that either they are planning to be
broadcast or are already being broadcast on DBS systems. I own a DirecTV
system and haven't found them there yet, so it could be the DishNetwork they
are referring too.
And I wrote the XM radio service and lamented that they didn't have an OTR
station on their service and they wrote back and said they were adding one
very soon. Whether this is RadioClassics or not, I don't know.
Hope this helps a little as to whether to subscribe to the Sirius service or
not.
Bob.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:15:15 -0400
From: Birdwalk Farms <pheadoux@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: comics/radio/noisy picture box
We can glean some idea of their merits, though,
and some notion of how good comics might have become had not the censors
intervened, by the fact that even after half a century
still entertain us on tv.
* **************
I would hesitate to use television as proof of any sort of merit.
with very few exceptions, [Night court, Rod Serling ] TV cubes Lee
DeForest's observations on radio programming.
[would like the exact quote if someone has it readily available]
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:15:21 -0400
From: nicoll <nicoll@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ceramic figurine
My daughter gave me, on Father's Day, a ceramic figurine about 6"
[removed] is two gray haired men, sitting on four legged stools, one is
looking intently at a cathedral radio which is sitting on an end
table. The other man, holding a newspaper and cigarette, is at right angle
to the radio. The only marking (on the bottom) is a red 4 and engraved "H."
My wife and I have been to hundreds of flea markets and haven't
seen anything like it. Just wondered if anyone could shed some light on my
newly acquire gem.
Will Nicoll
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:38:02 -0400
From: "evan torch" <etorch@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Radio Spirits
On an order early in the year from Radio Spirits, I was informed four one
hour programs were not available and were "backlogged".
Six months later: no tapes,no refunds,no replies to one e-mail and three
letters.
Caveat emptor.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:16:10 -0400
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: STARDUST
Dave Smith may well have nailed something special.
"Stardust" has been the single most requested tune of any in the 20th
century, ask anyone who has played piano in any bar in any city in several
countries at any and all times of the night.
The lyrics, written in 1927 by Mitchell Parish, were reprinted in his
obit in the LA Times when I read them on May 31st, 1993.
It brought tears to my eyes even then and I was a strapping young
Hollywood cynic at the time!
The marriage of Hoagie Carmichael's poignant melody with the
word-smithing of Mitchell Parish seemed destined for some eternity.
It now reminds me of the story Hoafgie Carmichael told of his composing
it.
Seems there was a girl he loved from afar whilst attending college at
Notre Dame in Indiana.
There must ALWAYS be a girl.
Triumphing through some deep, almost crippling shyness, he had finally
asked her out and they were to meet by the ivy covered wall near campus one
summer night.
The date was set and he was there.
Imagine. Summer. Indiana, 1927.
He waited.
Waited some more, even paced the darkening grass as the sun set.
She never showed.
He walked home and unconsciously began to whistle that most memorable
opening phrase.
Ain't love grand?
Even when it don't work out.
Listen to that tune right now, I am.
The bards over the ages still smile at this one.
It seems only fitting that somewhere in space and time in this world we
know and at this very moment, in many forms and versions including the newest
mp3, this song is playing for some receptive hearts, pining and keening over
some aspect of unrequited love.
There's even a version with Hoagie himself talking the lyrics that
Mitchell Parish wrote to that timeless melody.
And ya [removed]'s even in mp3 form!
Check it out romantics.
It truly is THE song of the 20th century.
Damn. I need to play it again [removed] anyone!
Gwynne
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