Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #71
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 2/24/2002 6:12 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 71
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      My previous posting had wrong email   [ Gayland Darnell <hankie01@[removed] ]
      The Lone Ranger's horse               [ "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed] ]
      NARA                                  [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Spanish language radio drama on inte  [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      OPEN REEL RECORDINGS vs. COMPACT DIS  [ Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@doityours ]
      Lone Ranger's Horse                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Bob Cook's CBSRMT                     [ "Bruce R. Glazer" <bruceglazer@attb ]
      Re: musical idents                    [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
      Re: What's in a Name?                 [ Christopher Werner <cwerner@globalc ]
      BBC Radio shows on tape/CD            [ "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed]; ]
      CBS Radio Mystery Theater             [ GreenIFire@[removed] ]
      ABC's multiple networks               [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      The Lone Ranger's horse               [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Olde Tyme Radio Network Schedule      [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      FRC/FCC                               [ danhughes@[removed] ]
      Do you remember the song "AMEN"?      [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
      A STONE BY ANY OTHER NAME             [ Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@doityours ]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:55:05 -0500
    From: Gayland Darnell <hankie01@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: My previous posting had wrong email address

    Sorry to bother again.  I posted a question a couple of days ago
    regarding a General Motors radio, and my return email address was shown
    incorrectly.  I have now fixed that problem, so I am reposting the
    original question.  Thank you for your tolerance.

    I have just been given a radio manufactured by General Motors Radio
    [removed] it is not a radio for an automobile.  It stands about
    49" tall, and runs on 110 VAC.  The metal radio chasis has a tag which
    says, "Model No. 1001"   However, on the back of the wooden cabinet,
    there is a tag which says, "Model 140A"   It says it was manufactured by
    General Motors Radio Corporation, Dayton, Ohio.  There is no date of
    manufacture.  The tubes used in the radio are: 24A (3 of these), 27 (2
    of these), 45 (2 of these) and one 80.  The receiver is
    labeled from 550 to 1500 kilocyles, and is a single-band radio.  Has
    anyone
    ever heard of this radio?  Is there a chance a schematic may be
    available?  It has about 1/3 as many parts as a comparable radio
    (Zenith, for example).  And it has some really bizarre parts.  For
    example, there are two square metal capacitors, rated at 3-1/10 MFD.
    The cabinet is in relatively good shape, and I think I can repair the
    radio, if I can only find a schematic.  I tried posting this question to
    the newsgroups, but for some reason, was unable to. If anyone can
    help me, I would be eternally grateful.  If you can give me any
    information regarding this radio, please e-mail me at:
    hankie01@[removed].   THANK YOU.

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:55:25 -0500
    From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: The Lone Ranger's horse

    Perhaps what you're thinking about is a story in Jim Harmon's book, The
    Great Radio Heroes. He stated (the usual disclaimer - this is from memory)
    that when Silvercup Bread no longer sponsored the program, the new client
    (Gingham bread?) wanted Silver's name changed to reflect the product's name.
    However, it was decided that "Hi-Yo, Gingham - AWAY!" just didn't cut the
    mustard or, in this case the loaf. (Sorry, I should have resisted [removed])
    Any corrections to the story are appreciated.

    Question - is there any information about Mutual radio in the hours
    following the news of the attack on Pearl Harbor, what they broadcast as to
    programming vs. news? Also - is there very much recorded material from the
    net on that day?

     Thanks,
      Macandrew

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:55:35 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: NARA

    Folks-
    Well, DOES it still exist, or do I chuck my catalogs, [removed]
    -Craig Wichman

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:55:42 -0500
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Spanish language radio drama on internet?

    Does anyone know if any radio drama, old or new, in the Spanish language is
    streaming on the internet?

    Gracias por su ayuda,
    Barbara

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:57:27 -0500
    From: Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@[removed];
    To: "Radio  Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: OPEN REEL RECORDINGS vs. COMPACT DISCS, ETC.

    I may be old fashioned, but I have been reading on the list and on other OTR
    lists the great advantage of the new state of the art recordings of otr
    programs on compact disc, cassettes and mp3, as haveing to be the best
    recordings around. I disagree up to a point. I have had since 1972, 2 very
    excellent Akai Open-Reel Stereo Tape decks (still in excellent comdition and
    purchased from a local radio station when they switched to carts and
    cassettes),that nearly all my OTR collection were recorded and copies dubbed.
    These recorders have features that can eliminate any tape hiss and enhance
    the quality of the recordings.  I also have two 12" speakers that can give a
    good quality sound reproduction. One advantage I like is, I can get more
    programs on a 4 track stereo than I can with a cassette (I have the whole
    series of "Temple Of The Vampire" on one 12" open reel tape.  I know these
    decks are not obsolete, as radio stations still record their broadcst day on
    them at a very slow speed.  Are there any opinions pro or con on this subject?

    Thanks,
    Kevin Michaels

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:57:44 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Lone Ranger's Horse

    In reference to Joseph Onorato's query about the Lone Ranger's horse. I am not
    sure that Silver had another name, but the name of the Lone Ranger's original
    horse, before he captured Silver was Dusty. I hope that my memory serves me. I
    recall listening to the show where the Lone Ranger and Dusty are chasing the
    bad guys and Dusty just does not have it. They just cannot gain on the
    baddies. It was here where the Lone Ranger decided he needed another horse.
    Dusty had heart, but not speed. Besides, can you imagine Hi yo Dusty
    awaaaaaaaaay!

    --
    Ron Sayles

    Make your day just a little better,
    Listen to an Old Time Radio Program.

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:58:00 -0500
    From: "Bruce R. Glazer" <bruceglazer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Bob Cook's CBSRMT

    Has anyone else had this problem at Bob Cook's
    CBS Radio Mystery Theater [removed]

    This past week, I attempted to download the
    following 2 shows:

    Episode #6:      "Honeymoon with Death" (54min, 02sec)

    Episode #174:  "The 36th Man" (44min,13sec)
    (I downloaded this show twice - with the same results)

    In both downloads, I received just under 17 minutes
    of audio (it downloaded as a QuickTime audio file).
    What happened to the rest of the programs?
    Am I doing something wrong?

    BRUCE

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:58:10 -0500
    From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: musical idents

    From: "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed];

>     And speaking of the Czechs and musical idents, is CSA the only
>     airline with a musical ident for its on-board entertainment system
>     (Smetana's Moldau)?

    I've heard musical tie-ins on other airlines with their commercial
    jingles, such as TWA's use of "Rhapsody in Blue", and earlier "Up Up and
    Away", and United's "Fly the Friendly Skies".  But I was sure that Bob,
    as a fellow world traveler, would have included a reminder that many of
    the major European train stations and airports start each announcement
    on their public address systems with a short musical chime of two to
    five notes.  This gets our attention, and eventually, if you travel
    enough, reminds you of just which train station you are in!  I try to
    record these, but since they are at the beginning of the announcements
    you have to have your recorder running in anticipation that there will
    (hopefully) be an announcement sometime soon.

    Worldwide radio stations often still have "Interval Signals" which are
    musical themes or sounds that they play over and over and over and over
    between transmissions to help people identify the stations and be tuned
    in for the start of the transmissions.  Radio Australia used a music box
    playing "Waltzing Matilda" and then started the transmission with a
    recording of the Kookaburra bird named "Jacko" which was short for the
    nickname of the bird: "Laughing Jackass."  I have an Australian 78 from
    the 1930s which tells the story of the recording they used.  Radio South
    Africa (RSA) and Italian radio (RAI) both use birds which sound similar
    to each other.  Radio New Zealand also uses a bird for their [removed]  But
    most use music.

    "The World Radio Handbook" used to print the musical notations for many
    of the musical Interval Signals, but they stopped doing that about 10 or
    15 years ago.  During WW II, the European service of the BBC used a very
    quiet drumbeat in the morse code V "dot dot dot dash" that would be easy
    to hear but not loud enough to alert the neighbors and Nazis that you
    were listening to a forbidden enemy broadcast.  They now use three
    electronic sounding notes in the pitch of "B B C" for some services, and
    used to use the sound of the Bow Bells for other services.  Alas, I no
    longer hear the chimes from Westminster on the quarter hours.  The
    present BBC management has NO FEELINGS OF NOSTALGIA at all!

    And my friends over at the Voice of Russia International have lost their
    sense of geography along with their efforts to rid the station of any
    remnants of Communism.  When they dumped their Soviet-era Interval
    Signal and sign-on music a few years ago they replaced them with a theme
    from Mussorgsky's "Pictures At An Exhibition" titled "The Great Gate At
    Kiev".  Kiev is, of course, the capital of Ukraine, and this
    music--although Russian--would be more appropriate for use by Radio
    Kiev!  When asked about it, they just shrug and say that Mussorgsky was
    Russian--meaning that he was pre-Revolutionary.  I suppose they could
    instead have chosen something from Glinka or Tschaikovsky, but both of
    these composers used Czarist themes, which probably also need to be
    avoided.  I told them that they completely missed the boat by not using
    "PodMoskovia Verchura" known here incorrectly as "Midnight in Moscow."
    (It really is a suburban song, not an urban one--"Evening In A Moscow
    Countryside" is a more correct title.)  No explanation, but I assume
    that it being in copyright was a major problem, plus it having been the
    unofficial themesong of the 1957 Moscow World Youth Conference.

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:59:25 -0500
    From: Christopher Werner <cwerner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: What's in a Name?

>     on Fri, 22 Feb 2002 "Brian Johnson  commented on Lee Munsick's remarks:

>     Lee also asks about Bell Telephone Laboratories. Where is it now? Its been
>     rechristened as Lucent Technologies. They're like AT&T, which likes to avoid
>     the real meaning behind the "T's."

    Actually Bell Labs were split up further. The portion of the labs that
    produced the switches and other hardware did go to Lucent. The labs proper
    that did the equipment certification and much of the research became
    Telcordia and later were purchased by SAIC, a large technology consulting
    and service company (competes with EDS, IBM, and similar. ANX eBusiness is
    one of their divisions.

    Chris Werner

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:59:35 -0500
    From: "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: BBC Radio shows on tape/CD

    John Howard wrote :

>     Wondering if anyone can help me out with a few shows I'm looking for.
>     I'd like to find the BBC series, "I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again".
>     I think there was another series with a similar title featuring most
>     of the same lot but can't remember that title.  Only have a few
>     episodes of ISIRTA now and want to increase the collection.  Also any
>     BBC Radio episodes of Dr. Who, Dad's Army.

    The BBC series with the similar name is "I'm Sorry, I Haven't A Clue" which
    is still broadcast to this day, known cryptically as "ISIHAC".

    There have been three Dr Who radio serials: "Slipback" starring Colin Baker,
    and the two Jon Pertwee serials, "Paradise of Death" and "The Ghosts of
    N-Space".

    A lot of the Dad's Army tv episodes were adapted for radio, with the scripts
    re-written to overcome the snag that the tv shows contained a lot of visual
    gags.

    There are several cassettes of ISIHAC that the BBC have released. All three
    Dr Who radio serials and a great many (at least four dozen) of the Dad's
    Army radio serials have been released by the BBC on cassette (and the Jon
    Pertwee radio serials were also released on CD).

    The BBC in London don't ship to the USA, but some tapes can be obtained from
    BBC America, and quite a lot from Amazon or eBay.

    Sandra Skuse
    Website: [removed]
    dedicated to English OTR comedian Jimmy Clitheroe

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:07:06 -0500
    From: GreenIFire@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: CBS Radio Mystery Theater
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

    I am seeking collectors who may wish to swap or sell good copies of CNSRMT,
    as I am now just starting to build up my area in this.  I cannot use MP3
    format.  I'd prefer regular CD or at the least, cassette audio tape.  I have
    the ability to reproduce CDs to CD, and CD to cassette, but not cassette to
    CD or in the MP3 format.  I am sure the MP3 format is an excellent one for
    compact and economy, but I am a purist for simplicity and clarity, thus it is
    easier on me to look up a particular program rather than search as we once
    did when having an extensive reel collection.  I do not plan ever expanding
    into MP3.  Anyone out there willing to share?   Can anyone copy regular CD or
    cassette from Mp3 CD? Thanks, JIM F

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:07:26 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: ABC's multiple networks

>     Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 12:07:52 -0500
>     From: "Ed Ellers" <ed_ellers@[removed];

>     -- they still only had one network feed, with the newscasts and other
>     features of each of the four sharing it, so that only one would be on
>     the air at any time.  Mutual complained to the FCC about it, but the
>     Commission ruled that it was okay.

    I seem to remember that at the time, they still had "Don McNeil's
    Breakfast Club in the morning, so that they actually were sending out
    more than one program at a time during the time that Don McNeil was on.
    I believe they actually asked the FCC for a waiver for this.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:07:41 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: The Lone Ranger's horse

>     Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:36:09 -0500
>     From: jao@[removed] (Joseph Onorato)

>     ..[removed]  it was noted the the name was changed to Silver from the
>     original name "....?..." when silvercup bread became the radio sponser.

    According to Jim Harmon's =The Great Radio Heros=, Fran Striker, the
    first writer for the Lone Ranger radio series, had once written a Robin
    Hood series in which he had given Robin Hood silver-tipped arrows.  On
    this occasion, he came up with silver bullets and a horse named Silver.
    Another suggestion, by Brace Beemer, who was WXYZ's studio manager at the
    time, was for silver horseshoes.  The call "Hi-Yo Silver" was an early
    feature, too.

    According to Harmon, Silvercup Bread was an early sponsor, but the
    similarity between its name and that of the LR's horse was a coincidence.
    Sometime later, a Gingham Bread wanted to sponsor the show if Silver's
    name were changed to Gingham, but George [removed] refused.  Apparently
    some people in those days had integrity.

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:07:46 -0500
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Olde Tyme Radio Network Schedule

    Starts Sunday, February 24, 2002  for one week at [removed]

    SAME TIME SAME STATION - w/Jerry Haendiges
     A Man Named Jordan  4/11/45
     Rocky Jordan  10/31/48; 07/25/51; 8/25/56
     Calling All Detectives  06/18/48  "Restaurant Scam"

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE w/Tom Heathwood
     Bulldog Drummond  1/17/47   "The Case of the Atomic Murders"
     Boston Blackie 7/22/45  "The Case of the 3-Way Split"
     Colgate Sports Newsreel/Bill Stern    12/21/45 Guest:  "Henry Aldrich"  Ezra
    Stone

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:07:55 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    It was an historic day in radio broadcasting, as the Voice of America
    (VOA) signed on for the first time on this day in 1942. The worldwide,
    shortwave radio service, a department of the United States Government,
    continues to beam a variety of programming around the globe under the
    auspices of the United States Information Agency (USIA).

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:08:05 -0500
    From: danhughes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: FRC/FCC

    Joe posts:
    1927 - The Federal Radio Commission began its work of assigning
    frequencies, hours of operation and power allocations for radio
    broadcasters across the [removed] The name was changed to the Federal
    Communication Commission (FCC) on July 1, 1934.

    A lot more than just a name change, I think.  Elizabeth can correct us
    both, but I've always thought of the FRC/FCC situation to be akin to the
    Articles of Confereration/Constitution changes.  The FRC was loosely
    formed and largely ignored, with little or no enforcement power.  The FCC
    replaced it and had the power to become respected and obeyed.

    ---Dan

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:08:19 -0500
    From: Jer51473@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Do you remember the song "AMEN"?

     I hope someone can clarify this for me. As a kid in the early-mid forties i
    used to hear a song often on the radio and the title was AMEN. It was, i
    think, done in a gospel like manner, but i feel sure it was done by one of
    the big bands. My family loved it and we acquired the 78 for home use. I
    would love to hear it today, but i cant find out who recorded it and how to
    acquire it. Can anyone out there help by at least knowing who did record it?
    I found a copy by Woody Herman, but this was not the version that i remember.
    I read somewhere about Tommy Dorseys great recording of Amen, but have never
    seen it listed in any of his recording lists. Now there have been several
    songs entitled Amen, but this one i havnt heard since the forties. I seem to
    recall a female singer and one of the lines went something like this: " a two
    faced woman and a jealous man- are the cause of trouble since the world
    began- Steal your chicken and your gravy too-- la da da da da da da do- I say
    aaamen amen--" More info about this would certainly be appreciated.  Thanks

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    Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:08:51 -0500
    From: Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@[removed];
    To: "Radio  Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: A STONE BY ANY OTHER NAME

    I read with great interest, Mr. Hal Stone's synopsis of his radio career and
    being identified mainly with the "Jughead" role on Archie Andrews.

    This reminds me of another Stone who was identified with only one role in his
    radio career.  Ezra Stone, who portrayed Henry Aldrich for many years.  In
    the book about his life, "Ezra Stone, A Theatrical Biography," by Kenneth L.
    Stilson, he, too, wore many hats; Actor, Director (TV, Stage), Assistant
    Producer for This Is The Army, and was an assistant on Broadway to Producer
    George Abbott.  It seems that EZRA STONE & HAL STONE almost had twin careers
    in Show Business.

    Now comes the big question:  Hal, were you related?  Did you know Ezra, and
    did you ever work with him either in radio, stage or movies?

    Kevin M

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