Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #233
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 7/20/2001 9:30 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 233
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Harlan Stone                         ["Stanley Probstein" <cwarner3@tampa]
 Fibber Help                          ["Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@eart]
 Hal Stone is my Superhero            [trapperjon@[removed]            ]
 Re: Museum of Broadcasting           [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
 Richard Neil Capuano, radio actor, j ["Tom Barnett" <barnettl@[removed]]
 Mike Clancy                          [Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu]
 Tommy of Mel Blanc's Fix-It Shop     ["BJGeorge" <yourstruly@[removed];    ]
 Trouble hearing mp3 file             [Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];    ]
 Fellow actors                        [Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed]]
 Re: Running into                     [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
 OTR Article in USA-TODAY             [Jack A French <otrpiano@[removed]; ]
 question on rerecording off cassette ["Larry & Caren Cohen" <lacaco@world]
 Re: Bob Hastings                     [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
 Comedy Rankings                      [dabac@[removed]                    ]
 Thanks Karl                          [ARago17320@[removed]                 ]
 Re: The greatest Radio Super Hero    [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
 Old-time radio: From golden age to t ["Ken Lanza" <klanza1@[removed]; ]
 distribution media                   [Jon Martin <mart459@[removed];]
 Side kicks                           [AandG4jc@[removed]                    ]
 Macy's                               ["Joe C." <gopack2000@[removed];  ]
 Who Knows What Landmarks Lurk ...?   ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Jan Miner and Fay Wray               [Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]]

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:08:55 -0400
From: "Stanley Probstein" <cwarner3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Harlan Stone

Hi Mr. Stone, enjoyed hearing you on the Archie Andrews radio show on
Saturdays as "Jughead". If I recall you were part of the opening of the
program when you added "Relax Archie, relax", am I right about that? Perhaps
we will chat again on the OTR channel. Thanks for the memories.   Stan.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:09:17 -0400
From: "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@[removed];
To: "OTR DIGEST" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Fibber Help

I once heard a episode of Fibber McGee and Molly in the late 1970s about
Fibber trying to dispose of some "Rare Books" but have not been able to
locate this episode. Can anyone help me out with date or title? All I can
remember is it concerned some susposedly "rare books".

Mike Kerezman

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:09:29 -0400
From: trapperjon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hal Stone is my Superhero

Well, I've been dormant on this list for some time due to people's not taking
a shine to my views on OTR and its future. However, I did notice with
interest that Hal Stone was bad-mouthing me in regards to the Thursday night
OTR chat, and I had to respond. I've been in Israel on vacation, and have not
been around to check my e-mail. However, I would like to say that I hope you
people don't ignore me in the Thursday chat, just because Hal and I heckle
each other in a friendly sort of way (although you will never get Hal to
admit that). Hope you will stop by and say hello, and I'll behave myself if
Hal will. (Fat chance, you say)
Anyway, I also wanted to put in my two cents worth on the who was the best
OTR superhero. (And no, its not Jughead) The Shadow was certainly the most
imaginative, and I always thought Green Hornet was rather disappointing. I
never was much of a superhero fan in general, but I would have to say
Superman was a fantastic show. I never cared much for Superman, but the early
40s serial was something special, I have to admit. It was certainly one of
the most addictive radio shows. I have to watch myself with those, or I have
to sit and listen to like 10 episodes straight. Superman has my vote.
Quality, sheer quality.

Sincerely,
Ryan Hall
aka Ryan1

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:09:56 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Museum of Broadcasting

Bob Keldgord asked:
Some 8 or 9 yrs ago, while on a business trip to NYC, I spent one morning
at the Museum of [removed]  Now it's my understanding that there's a
branch f this Museum somewhere in the Los Angeles area.

Does anyone have an exact address, and is it comparable to the museum in
NYC?

A recent [removed] OTR Presentation took place at the
museum.  It went something like this:

[removed]

CAB
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:10:52 -0400
From: "Tom Barnett" <barnettl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Richard Neil Capuano, radio actor, journalist
 Obit.

[removed]



Tom Barnett  MCP, HCP, HCI
barnettl@[removed]

\[removed]~barnettl

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:10:57 -0400
From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mike Clancy

    I would like to add Mike Clancy of "Mr. Keen" to the list of favorite
secondary characters. Although this was supposed tto be a murder mystery
series, even at a young age my brother and I listened to it strictly for
laughs. Mike's exaggerated "Saints preserve us" brogue was funny enough, but
often he and Mr. Keen would find themselves facing a gun-wielding thug about
to inflict major damage. At this point the kindly old investigator would
invariably say, "Get him, Mike," and it would be up to poor Mr. Clancy to
risk his life and take the blows while Keen presumably stood by, nodding in
appreciation. A lot of laughs!

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:11:32 -0400
From: "BJGeorge" <yourstruly@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Tommy of Mel Blanc's Fix-It Shop

I've been trying to find the answer to this question for years. Who played
Betty Colby's little brother Tommy on the Mel Blanc Fix-It Shop? I'm
guessing Tommy Cook. Anyone know?

Yours Truly,
[removed]
[removed]

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:12:18 -0400
From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Trouble hearing mp3 file

Greg sez,

I recently recieved a CD-rom in the mail on which two files were
completely invalid because the trader forgot to make
sure that the letters ".mp3" followed the show title. The format was
listed as "file", making the shows completely unplayable.

Greg, copy those programs to your hard drive and then rename them, adding
the .mp3 suffix.  You can then play them from the hard drive.

---Dan

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:12:17 -0400
From: Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fellow actors

Mike Ray inquires about working with John Dehner and Bob Bailey.

" What was it [removed]' is a very difficult question to answer. Both
John and Bob were highly professional and therefore dependable,
comfortable people to face across a microphone. I knew John and worked
with him while he was an announcer at KFWB and I was doing a disc jockey
[removed] met Bob right after he came to the West Coast from Chicago and
played on a number " Let George Do It " shows with him and later "
Johnny Dollar ".

Both were personal friends although we did not spend a great deal of
time together.

I hope this answers your question.

Harry Bartell

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:00:15 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Running into

Harry Bartell wrote me:

An Older Type guy??????!!!!!

And we didn't even run into each other when I lived in Studio City  for
almost 25 years.

At any rate, when they re-open Brit"s I'll buy you a drink.

Regards.

Harry

Hey, Harry,

I am certainly now classified as an 'older type' (70 at present)
You must remember to a teenager anyone above 20 years is
an 'Older Type Guy.' *Grin*

Thanks for the drink treat offer.  I think you're on pretty safe
grounds re the qualifications criteria necessary to initiate
its execution.  I've not read in the trades that Brittingham's
even has a corporate office from which to order such an event.
*Grin*

CAB
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:49:38 -0400
From: Jack A French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Article in USA-TODAY

An article on OTR and the Internet appears today on page 3D of July 19th
(Thursday's) LIFE section of USA-TODAY.  You can also read it online at:
[removed].

Glenn Carlson of the One Act Players in San Francisco, Don Corey of "Radio
Revisted", and yours truly are all quoted in this article.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:53:08 -0400
From: "Larry & Caren Cohen" <lacaco@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  question on rerecording off cassette

I have the doc savage series that was on NPR about 8 years ago on =
cassette and now want to move it to a CD rom.  after listening to it I =
have noticed that the audio quality is really bad.  Is there a way to =
improve this, so that I could listen to it and enjoy it on disc?

Thanks
Larry Cohen
Anchorage, Alaska

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:46:22 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Bob Hastings

From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
But in case you're not aware, he also played the bartender on
TV's "All in The Family" [removed] "Archie's Place".
I just realized the coincidence. Humph! "Archie Andrews" on
"Archie's Place".

Don't forget that the name of the dummy in the 1950s BBC radio program
"Educating Archie" was Archie Andrews!

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:46:20 -0400
From: dabac@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Comedy Rankings

Wondered if anyone could tell me how the top five comedy shows of the
30s-40s ranked - 1 thru 5, ratings/popularity wise?  Thanks -Dan

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:46:17 -0400
From: ARago17320@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Thanks Karl

Hi,

Just began reading digest 231 and got as far as Karl Schadow's reply to an
earlier posting I did on digest 221 re The Shadow concerning Margo Lane and
live audiences.

Thank you Karl for your detailed response. It only goes to prove [removed]
"The Schadow Knows"

Sorry, I could not pass that up.  Now back to my reading digests 231 and 232.

Al Ragonnet

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:46:15 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: The greatest Radio Super Hero

My nomination for The Greatest Radio Super Hero is Edwin Howard
Armstrong.  Without him you wouldn't have had quite the radios you
listened to.  He did battle with two of the most dastardly foes one
could imagine: Lee deForest and David Sarnoff.  Unfortunately he
eventually lost both of those battles, but in both cases History has
judged him to have been the real Victor.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:57:17 -0400
From: "Ken Lanza" <klanza1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Old-time radio: From golden age to the Internet
 age

USA Today has a story on OTR:

 here's the URL:

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:57:15 -0400
From: Jon Martin <mart459@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  distribution media

Just a quick question to the folks on this list. I have lots of OTR shows
in MP3 format burned onto CDRs.
Probably 500 CDRs at this point - more than I can listen to in a lifetime
:). But I find that the easiest media
for me to use is minidiscs. (small media, 5 hours per
disc, 20 hours playback on a single 'AA' cell, and when they come out
"soon" USB downloading to the disks so
that the recording isn;t done in real time.). Anyway - I was just wondering
what others used for their recordings.

That and if anyone on the list is from the Milwaukee area and wants to swap
[removed]

Jon Martin

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:59:12 -0400
From: AandG4jc@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Side kicks

    It's nice to know what everyone's favorite superheros were but what about
their side kicks? It seems to me that every one had a side kick. From
Mandrake to Red Rider, every show had at least one bumbling (or not so
bumbling) helper. The Shadow had two side kicks at one time. Margo and
Shreevie the cabbie. Some of the characters were often portrayed as very
brilliant and reliable. Take Kato for instance. Here was a character who not
only fought side by side with The Green Hornet, but also built the sleek
black car "The Black Beauty," and also developed the various weapons used by
the dynamic duo! (sorry Batman & Robin) Tonto was another good character. But
some of the other side kicks seems to me to be inefficient and in the way. Oh
well, I just like to know who was the best side kick or your favorite.
    I love reading everyone's opinion on the superhero item and I hope to
hear from you again. I hope to talk on it some more in the near future.
Allen

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:59:19 -0400
From: "Joe C." <gopack2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Macy's

Hal Stone asked:

Wanna Bet? Remember the typical NYC wager, with the payoff being,    >"I'll
(you  know what) in Macy's window?.  (Is Macy's still there?)  :)

Yes Hal they are, Macy's still has its Herald Square store in NYC along with
a few on Long Island and the New Jersey [removed] sponsor the "Macy's
Thanksgiving Day Parade" and the annual NYC Forth Of July fireworks display
in NY harbour. Hopefully they will continue that tradition for years to
come.

Joe

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:35:24 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Who Knows What Landmarks Lurk ...?

Frank A McGurn, Jr, reminiscing about local references in comedy shows,
notes,

I also learned that Sardi's and the Brown Derby were very popular
restaurants in LA, where the stars dined. Important to be seem
there. I learned because they used these place over and over.

Interestingly, in one of the old Walt Disney (mostly) cartoon
anthologies, Fun and Fancy Free, if memory serves, one of the stories was
a Jack and the Beanstalk variant.  At the end of the sequence, the giant,
who'd fallen to earth, lifted up the roof of a house looking for Mickey,
then strolls off, stopping long enough to pick up the Brown Derby, and
put it on his head as a hat before strolling off in the distance.
Although youngsters today might enjoy the videotape, I doubt that they'd
begin to understand the full humor of the scene.

Likewise, there are many references in OTR that might well pass over the
heads of casual listeners to OTR recordings.  Not only were there
references to "in" places like the Brown Derby, but also crazes of the
time.  In the late 1940s, for example, there were a number of humorous
references to cocker spaniels, mainly because they were an extremely
popular breed at the time.

It's interesting to speculate just how obscure many OTR references may
become.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:24:19 -0400
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jan Miner and Fay Wray

Who was it who said, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."  I collect
books on entertainment subjects; many of the topics and people discussed
within the OTR Digest cause me to consult them regularly.  I take "rabbit
walks" all the time because one topic invariably leads to another and
another until the original issue  is nothing more than a blur.

Take Jan Miner for instance about whom Hal Stone rhapsodized yesterday.
Everyone remembers Miner's lucrative series of television commercials for
Palmolive as Madge, the manicurist.  "You are soaking in it," she always
said. I remembered a show she did for the RADIO CITY PLAYHOUSE called "Long
Distance," in which Miner is on the telephone trying to prevent  her
husband's execution. It is every bit as good as the SUSPENSE episode to
which it's usually compared, "Sorry, Wrong Number."

That took me to Jim Cox's book, THE GREAT RADIO SOAP OPERAS (McFarland,
1999) because I remembered he discussed Miner at length. Simultaneously, I
have been reading Fay Wray's autobiography, ON THE OTHER HAND (St. Martin's
Press, 1989),  in which she says that the radio series, ROSEMARY,  was
created for her. While looking up the information on Miner, I also checked
details on ROSEMARY, one of the soap operas Cox discusses in detail.

No mention of Fay Wray.  I searched and searched, but I  couldn't find any
reference to Fay Wray appearing on ROSEMARY.  I was about to write the
Digest with a question about it  when I found Wray's name in Dunning's
encyclopedia (the index, no less, where I should have looked first).  Sure
enough, Fay Wray's mention of ROSEMARY was shorthand for  KEEPING UP WITH
ROSEMARY, a brief
 summer series in 1942, in which she starred.

I bet many of you have had similar experiences, particularly those of you
who write books and are constantly researching. It is fun but it can drive
you crazy.

Dennis Crow

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