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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 192


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Re: Walter Tetley
	 Cartoons to OTR - I owe WB
	 ILAM and Brahmıs Lullaby
	 Introduction
	 Lackmann's Same Time Same Station - too bad
	 Question about Mr. Kitzel
	 JOHN BROWN
	 Bargain Tapes from Cincinnati
	 Walter Tetley

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Date: Tue, 28 May 96 07:58:41 EDT
From: filfeit@[removed] (Fil Feit)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Walter Tetley
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Once Upon A Time, Mr Froggy <Mr_Froggy@[removed]> said:
>[...]Which makes me wonder where is Walter Tetley now. Anybody have any 
>information? Also, besides the Harris/Faye show and Gildersleeve did he appear
>anywhere else? How about TV? 
>
>Jim Yellen
>
Don't know about tv, but he played a very funny bellhop in the very
bad Abbott & Costello movie, "A&C Meet The Killer (Boris Karloff)."

--f2

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:40:21 -0500
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cartoons to OTR - I owe WB
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The discussion of "The Mouse that Jack Built" has been fun.  Thinking about
it led me to a fact I take for granted:  My interest in OTR might never
have gotten off the ground if it weren't for several dozen viewings each of
many, many Warner Brothers cartoons that contained characters lampooning
other characters, catch phrases and advertising slogans from the radio of
their day.
I was lucky to have parents old enough to remember many of these things,
and explain many of them.  Others, I got from context and/or a little
research.
A partial list:  "Your best friend wouldn't tell you"; "Beeeee-Ohhhhh!";
"Whatcha doin' mister, huh, whatcha doin' huh mister huh?"; "That's a, I
say, that's a joke, son!  Ya keep missin' 'em!"; "So round, so foim, so
fully-packed;" "When you hear the tone it will be [removed]"; "Don't ever
DOOOO that!"; "I hope I hope I hope I hope"; and many, many others.  Not to
mention the many caricatures, not only from films but also radio. 
"Stuuuudents!"

John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: 28 May 96 10:39:08
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ILAM and Brahmıs Lullaby
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Does anyone recall an ILAM from 1940 (30 minute format) that took place in a castle, probably moved to the [removed] stone by stone from old England?  As I remember, every time the organ played ŞBrahmıs LullabyŞ someone would be murdered.
Any help would be appreciated

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:30:53 PST
From: jparm@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Introduction
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello all.
My name is John Parmenter, and an avid listener to radio in the late 40's
and 50's.  I'm a "Ham Radio Operator" also holding the call KB4IP.  I
have rekindled an interest in the "old" programs, and have started
collecting tapes of the shows.  My favorites are the Shadow,
Gangbusters, and Suspense.  All in all I have tapes of  120 or so shows.
 I also have managed to find a Philco Consol (39-45) and am in the
process of cleaning it up.  I am missing just one tube(replacement) and
it will "sing" again.  I'm a retired IBM Programmer, and am teaching
computers in a school for Learning Disabled kids.  Guess I have pretty
well given away my age, so just to confirm it I'm 54.
John P.

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:09:42 -0500
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed], seeliger@[removed]
Subject: Lackmann's Same Time Same Station - too bad
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

This post is long, and liable to make a few people unhappy.
The Univ of TX Library recently shelved a copy of "Same [removed]
Station: An A-Z Guide to Radio from Jack Benny to Howard Stern," by Ron
Lackmann, published this year by Facts On File, Inc.  It's a big,
attractively-designed reference-type book, with a foreword by none other
than Norman Corwin.
I got this book off the shelf and started to look it over with enthusiasm;
5 minutes later, that enthusiasm had turned to dismay, and finally
disbelief.
Lackmann states in the intro that "the few available reference books on
[removed] not always [removed] spellings of names" and that he
"wanted [his] facts to be as correct as [removed]"  If that's indeed so,
I can only ask:  What the hell happened?  Because this "reference" book
contains more errors of spelling and fact per page than about any that I've
seen.
I discovered this in the first five minutes, just by looking up the entries
on some favorites.  Then, I decided to go ahead and read the book anyway.
But I have now abandoned that effort, upon reading the entry for Amos 'n'
Andy: "One of most popular characters on the [removed] 'Kingfish'
Stevens'...This part was played by Charles Correll, who also played Amos on
the program." (next paragraph) "...the TV series featured an all-black cast
(Tim Moore as Kingfish, Alvin Childress as Andy, and Spencer Williams as
Amos)..."

I would guess that nearly everyone on this list who is interested in
Amos'n'Andy can see how utterly wrong the above information is.  To be
precise:  _Freeman Gosden_ played the parts of Kingfish and Amos on the
radio; Correll was _Andy_.  And on TV, Childress played _Amos_ and Williams
played _Andy_.
Furthermore, there is a nice, 3/4-page photo of the radio show during a
broadcast - but the caption identifies Correll as Amos and Gosden as Andy,
which is at least consistent with the text, but wrong wrong wrong.
The A&A entry if filled with the names of supporting players, sponsors,
etc. - very thorough - but of what use, if he can't get the creators and
lead players straight?  

Other errors discovered in the "A's":  An announcer for the A and P Gypsies
is identified as Ed ThorgeNson; his name according to other sources,
including the Fox Movietone newsreels he narrated, is ThorgeRsEn.  Lou
Costello is said to have been born in PaTTerson, NJ; the residents of that
city spell it with one "t".  An A&C supporting player is listed as "screen
tough girl Irish Adrian"; her name was Iris.  For the entry on "Abie's
Irish Rose," the author of the original play is listed as Ann Nichols;
close, but she spelled her name as Anne.  Under "Adventures of Charlie
Chan," the original creator is named Erle Derr Biggers.  "Erle" was the
spelling of E. Stanley Gardner, the creator of Perry Mason; Mr. Biggers was
always "Earl," according to his books of which I've read many.  Getting
away from spelling for a second, the entry for "The American School of the
Air" states the show was on from 1930-48; then, in the very first sentence
of the description, it states the program was " 'required listening' for
many American schoolchildren in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s."  The children
of the 1950s had abilities that others must lack, if they were still
listening to a program that left the air in 1948.  "The Answer Man" is said
to have been on the air from 1937-1956; in the description, it says the
show "had a large following the entire decade it was on the air."  1937 to
1956 is more like 2 decades, is it not?

Error of omission:  The Whistler was in its first season written and
produced by J. Donald Wilson; later, he worked on Nero Wolfe.  These should
earn him at least a mention.  He is not mentioned anywhere in this big
book.

Finally, here are the errors I turned up in those first five minutes:
Popular voice actor (and creator of Elmer Fudd) Arthur Q. Bryan is
identified throughout his entry as "Bryant".
Radio legend Arch Oboler is identified throughout his entry as "Obler." 
Not according to his several books, which we have at this library.
Harold Peary's entry is for "Hal Peary" and that's what he's called
throughout.  However, all episodes of Gildersleeve, and the TV shows he
appears on, always have him as "Harold," and that would have been the
appropriate entry.
Walter Tetley, the juvenile actor, has an entry of his own - well and good
- which states that he "played Julius Abbruzio, the brash grocery boy on
the Fitch Bandwagon when that show starred Phil Harris and Alice Faye." 
That's misleading - the show became The Phil Harris/Alice Faye Show in 1948
and Tetley remained with it until it ended in 1954.
The entry for Herbert Marshall's espionage series has it as "A Man Called
X."  I think you'll find that every episode of it has the announcer saying
"THE Man Called X."
Elliott Lewis has an entry, as he should; but right above, in the entry for
Cathy Lewis, it has his name spelled as "Elliot," one t.
Lewis' series, The Voyage of the Scarlet Queen, is described as "set in the
mid-1800s".  I just listened to an episode 2 days ago, and it was clearly
set in post-World War II times.  Its theme was trouble in "occupied Japan,"
and they didn't have automatic weapons in the mid-1800s.
The photo of the Gunsmoke cast identifies Howard McNear as Parley Baer, and
vice versa.

There's a simple rule of informational writing:  Whether it's a person or a
thing, if you don't spell the name correctly, you're talking about
something else entirely.  Get your other facts wrong, and you're talking
about something that didn't happen, or never existed.

Yes, I know I haven't written a book of my own.  Some of you may know, and
be friends with, Mr. Lackmann.  He certainly went to a lot of effort in
compiling his book, which I can appreciate, and it DOES contain a lot of
interesting info and photos.                                               
                                                          Unfortunately,
he, or someone, did not go all the way with the required efforts of
fact-checking and proofreading, with the result that as a reference work,
this book is SEVERELY compromised.  
Very sad.





John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:33:57 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Question about Mr. Kitzel
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

I was listening to an Abbott & Costello broadcast the other day on
Stan Freberg's show (WMAQ-670 AM, Midnight-1:00 [removed] CST weekdays)
and the character of Mr. Kitzel (played by, um, Artie Auerbach?)
appeared. This kind of puzzled me because I thought he was one of
Jack Benny's "stable" of characters, and no one had said anything
about him making a guest appearance on this show; he just sort of
showed up. 

Furthermore, A & C were in New York in this episode, and Mr. Kitzel
had some establishing line about how he'd traveled there from Chicago
by Greyhound bus because he'd heard they were in town (setting up a
matrimonial business). This comment didn't have much of a punch line 
and seemed to be there only to explain why Mr. Kitzel wasn't still in
[removed] but of course Jack Benny's show isn't in Chicago either, 
so what was Mr. K doing there?

So anyway, was Mr. Kitzel some sort of free-lance character who was
owned by the actor rather than being part of a show? He had a long
scene in this show and no one even came close to mentioning Jack Benny,
although he's been in numerous Benny radio shows and at least one TV
episode that I've seen. Or was this simply an extended cameo appearance
by one character on another show?

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:57:39 -0700
From: PETER GRECO <pgreco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: JOHN BROWN
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

HI,
 IN REPLY TO DAVID'S E-MAIL ABOUT JOHN BROWN,JOHN BROWN ALSO PLAYED 
IRMA'S BOYFRIEND AL,ON MY FRIEND [removed] DID COME TO TV AS O'DELL FOR 
ONE SEASON ON THE REILY [removed] WAS CALLED BEFORE THE MCCARTHY HEARING
AND BRANDED A [removed] WAS THEN BLACK-BALLED,AN END TO A LONG ACTING
[removed] THAT I NEVER HEARD ABOUT JOHN BROWN [removed] ANYBODY SHED
ANY LIGHT ON WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM AFTER THAT?.....PETE

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:50:14 -0400
From: BROACH88@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bargain Tapes from Cincinnati
Message-ID: <960528195012_122687718@[removed]>

I lurked in back watching discussions about the dollar tapes from the Cincy
show - having purchased some I have found truth in the old adage "you get
what you pay for".  Have found many of these (and others from same vendor at
regular price) to be clearly inferior.  High levels of background noise,
sloppy editing, beginnings of another tape at the end of one story,
off-pitch, no labels on tape shell, [removed]  Many of these could have been
corrected when recording.  Once burned, twice learned.
Bob Roach

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: ulrich@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Walter Tetley
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In OTR Digest #188, Jim Yellen asked about Walter Tetley.

Walter Tetley was born in 1915. He made his radio debut in 1930. By 1938,
he had made 2,961 radio appearances. He died in 1975.

In addition to The Great Gildersleeve and The Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show,
Tetley was a regular on The Fred Allen Show, The Bob Burns Show, The
Anderson Family, Raising Junior, and Buck Rogers.

He had small roles in at least twenty-five films, including Abbott &
Costello's Who Done It? (1942) and Fred Allen's It's In the Bag (1945), but
he did not appear in any of the Gildersleeve films or the TV series.

--Charles

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