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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 473
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
BBC7 Launch Date and Doctor Who [ "Paul" <paul_hurwood@[removed]; ]
Friendship&OTR [ dantrigg422@[removed] ]
Dr Who Audio [ "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed]. ]
"That Ol' Black Listin' has me in it [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
Query for Aussies [ "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed]. ]
Re: NEMO Defined [ "Bill Orr" <billorr6@[removed]; ]
The Mad Russian [ Robert Griffin <griffinr@[removed]; ]
TV as Radio [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
WTIC's Bob Steele [ "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed]; ]
Ken Burns PBS documentary on radio [ Marklambert@[removed] ]
Rose Bowl Games [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
McCarthyism [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
the blacklist: Brian's comments [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
Blacklisting Bud [ "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed] ]
Today in otr history [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
JAPANESE "PEARL HARBOR" ADMIRAL SECR [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:41:50 -0500
From: "Paul" <paul_hurwood@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: BBC7 Launch Date and Doctor Who
Hi All,
I have been reading the digest for a few weeks and only wish I had something
to contribute other than a slight correction.
Walt is 100% right about the BBC's upcoming launch of BBC7 with the
exception of the launch date. The Actual launch date is December 15th.
They have a launch party at 8pm GMT which will include Hancock's Happy
Christmas and Doctor Who.
If you would like to take a look at what the BBC are offering on BBC7 here
is the link.
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I really enjoy the digest and hope that one day I can come up with an
original post.
All The Best
Paul
Subject: Re: Doctor Who Audios
coincidentally,. BBC Radio 7 which launches this weekend will be
broadcasting
these as part of their "7th Dimension" strand of programming. The channel
should be available through their own website, so you might wish to try
there!
walt
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:42:11 -0500
From: dantrigg422@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Friendship&OTR
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In so many of the OTR shows we see tests of what friendship is.
Hal Stone has passed the test. Hang in there son.
Dan
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:42:22 -0500
From: "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Dr Who Audio
In issue 470 Irene wrote:
"and am so pleased to find that there are at least 4 others in this group
like me"
Irene, you had better make that 5. I have been a fan of Dr Who since early
teens. I have collected the Videos as well as the handful of movies for
many years. There are many TV and Audio in mp3 around the groups, in fact
probably a dozen CDs of mp3's all told. The newer ones are considered out
of bounds for copying by many as we want to encourage the continuation.
Despite watching all the various Drs in the series, Tom Baker is also my
favourite and Jon Pertwee was probably my 2nd favourite.
Ian Grieve
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:52:17 -0500
From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: "That Ol' Black Listin' has me in its spell!"
Hi Gang:
I esp'ly would like to commend Ms. McLeod once [removed] time for aptly
enumerating several instances in which famous performers of the 1940s & -50s
were unjustifiably "blacklisted" on trivial trumped-up charges.
In the mid-1970s, I remember seeing an interview with Zero Mostel, shortly
before he died, in which he stated thst the reason he was blacklisted was
simply because he signed a petition to allow African-Americans into
major-league baseball.
Seems silly; but then again, the filmmakers of the Academy
Award-winning short "The House I Live In," in which Frank Sinatra sang a song
celebrating diversity which encouraged tolerance, also found themselves on
the short end of the blacklisting stick. And for what? Preaching
brotherhood? A popular singer of my generation said it best when he sang
"What's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding?"
This is the most suitable season of the year for this message to be
pondered and acted upon.
[removed]
Derek Tague
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:52:40 -0500
From: "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Query for Aussies
In issue 471, Robert asked abour Ward Leopold and Here's Hoey.
I am the proud possessor of a recording by one Ward Hoey entitled "Here's
Hooey," of 1930s vintage. This monologue is the Australian version of Jones
& Hare's "Twisting the Dial", a comic olio of 1930ish radio commercials,
popular programs, etc." & "(I have a tape copy, not the original 78) What
I'd like to know
is a more precise date for the recording, who Ward Hoey was and what else he
may have recorded, and any other information (such as record label) I can
get.
I have a 78 of Here's Hoey, it is on the Regal Zonophone label for Columbia
Graphophone (Aust) P/L Sydney.
Ward Leopold first recorded the Here's Hoey series of sketches in 1940. It
is a tribute to the potency of Leopolds barbs that his efforts were promptly
banned by stations across Australia! Leopold can now be seen as an
antipodean, and earlier, Stan Freberg. When not mercilessly lampooning
radio, Leopold made a living from it, writing, producing and providing
voices for countless commercials. He was also a useful featured player if
an unusual characterisation was required for a radio drama.
(information came from Warren Fahey presents Yesterdays Australia)
If you want more information Robert, just contact me directly and I will hit
the books. I had the info to hand as the 1940 version of here's Hoey can be
found on an Aussie 6 pack doing the rounds of the mp3 groups at the moment.
It is on the 4th CD of the second set of 6.
Ian Grieve
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:52:46 -0500
From: "Bill Orr" <billorr6@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: NEMO Defined
During my early days in broadcast (late 40's), I was told that NEMO was
derived from the Greek meaning "far away, remote". It took up little space
on a patch panel where space was at a premium.
I have come to doubt the "Greek connection" but I also doubt that it is
(was) an acronym. So, back to square one.
I am reminded of a Third Officer on a merchant freighter being called
"tertius" which I *know* is from the Greek.
Regards and happy holidays to all,
Bill Orr
Tulsa, OK
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:52:51 -0500
From: Robert Griffin <griffinr@[removed];
To: OldRadio Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Mad Russian
I seem to remember a comedic character on radio many years ago who was
called "The Mad Russian." Can anyone verify the existence of such a
character? Thanks in advance for the help.
Bob Griffin
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:12:43 -0500
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: TV as Radio
In line with much of the recent talk of Dr Who I would like to reccommend a
number of other British TV shows that work very well on radio. Shows such as
Dad's Army, Yes (Prime) Minister, Steptoe and Son etc. Many of these shows
were made for TV and then transfered to the radio. Some others, such as Tony
Hancock became popular on the radio and then transfered to TV.
I am sorry that I am not expert enough to provide exact details on such
shows. However, I would like to reccomend them mainly because of there
verbal wit and charm. I have often wondered why more American TV show did
not become radio shows.
As a side point, for any none [removed] readers who like "Yes (Prime) Minister" I
would like to reccommend a show called "Absolute Power" which stars Stephen
Fry (who I think is brilliant). The show is to Blair's Britain what "Yes
(Prime) Minister" was to Thatcher's Britain. Like much British humour it is
at its best when it is at its most savage.
Love as always, David Rogers
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:14:59 -0500
From: "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: WTIC's Bob Steele
Bob Steele won't be at his usual spot behind the microphone at WTIC tomorrow
morning. Steele, who joined the station in 1936 as a sports announcer and
took over the morning drive-time slot in the early 1940s arose at 5 AM six
mornings a week to conduct his regular four-hour melange of music, corny
jokes, bad sports predictions, weather, snow-school closings, and the other
staples of that kind of program until 1991, when he reluctantly cut back his
schedole to only the first Saturday of each month. Steele died yesterday
afternoon at the age of 91. At the height of his popularity, Steele
commanded the ears of more than 50 per cent of listeners in the Hartford,
Conn. market. His tenure is one of the longest with a single station in the
history of radio.
Besides the usual pieces that make up a wake-up hour, Steele's show had
some things that were unique---until the 1970s, there was a selection for
the old-timers (Harry Lauder, John McCormack and Julia Sanderson were
favorites), a short story for the children, the Word For The Day (a short
lesson in promunciation and word usage), Tiddly Winks (goofy stories from
the teletype of little consequence but worth a smile, mainly from the [removed]),
the morning march, Birthdays of listeners over 80 and wedding anniversaries
past the 60th, and so on. Because WTIC is a directional-antenna clear
channel station, there was the morning antenna switch for which the station
managed to find a sponsor, and lots more.
As WTIC degenerated from a key member of the NBC Red network through
the
deejay era of the 1970s and 1980s to all-talk in recent years, Steele's
program changed very little. In a concession to succeedingly younger
program directors, he did change his choice of music to keep up with the
times, but he claimed that these were merely accessories on an already
fully-clothed figure. Bob Steele will be missed.
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:15:22 -0500
From: Marklambert@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ken Burns PBS documentary on radio
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I'm behind on reading my Digests, so I apologize if someone has
posted this, but I just wanted to make sure that folks know that
PBS stations next week will air a documentary by Ken Burns on the
development of radio.
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My local PBS station describes it thusly:
"For 50 years radio dominated the air waves and the American consciousness as
the first bmass [removed] Ken Burns American Stories: Empire of the Air:
The
Men Who Made Radio examines the lives of three extraordinary men who shared
the primary responsibility for this invention and its early success on
Monday, December 9 at 8 [removed]" Obviously, date and time may vary.
--Mark Lambert
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:41:07 -0500
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Rose Bowl Games
I don't know the answers to most of Mark J. Cuccia's questions re: the
broadcasting of the Rose Bowl games through the years, but I can tell
him that there were no games on Sundays. The city of Pasadena has never
allowed either the Rose Parade or the Rose Bowl game on Sunday's
supposedly because of a promise made to the churches along Colorado
Blvd. that they would postpone festivities to Monday whenever Jan. 1st
fell on the Sabbath.
George Aust
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:16:04 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: McCarthyism
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:37:49 -0500
From: "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed];
I think some clarification is needed. Many times one might read (or
hear) the name Senator Joseph McCarthy in association with the
Hollywood black list. Senator McCarthyís probe was directed toward
alleged Communists subversives in the State department. His Senate
oversight committee, of which he was the chair, did not involve itself
with Hollywood. That was done by the Un-American Activities Committee
of the US House of Representatives.
This is true, but McCarthy's prominence and his methods of operation made him prominent
as a symbol of the "Red Scare," and the word "McCarthyism" has come to apply to all of the
different aspects of those excesses.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210
lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:25:48 -0500
From: Howard Blue
<khovard@[removed];
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: the blacklist: Brian's comments
Brian comments
"Were there Hollywood writers putting communist messages
into movies? According to some of the writers who admitted doing it
...yes!"
Brian--I think it would be helpful to explain what you mean by "communist
messages." What were those "communist messages" that some Hollywood
writers tried to put over on viewers to poison their minds.
In doing research for " Words at War" I interviewed a writer whom I
discuss in the book, a former member of the American Communist Party,
who admitted before a congressional committee that he tried to insert
Communist language into a radio play in "The Sailor Takes A Wife," in the
"Cavalcade of America" series.
>From p. 196 "Words at War"
What was the insidious nature of the propaganda? Sloane explained that
he tried to show that the men who served in the armed forces came from a
wide variety of social, economic and ethnic backgrounds . . . What
Sloane did was simply name one character "Pop Silverman." Instead of
using "all-American" names such as "Trent," "Tucker," "Rogers," "Shield,"
"Wiley," or "Brooks" (all of them used in the titles of various radio
shows of the era), Sloane who had changed his name from Silverman, named
a character after his own Jewish father. Besides carrying out the party's
work, he explained, his motivation, was to honor his father. In the end,
however, he failed. His attempt was spotted. "Ah ha! That old Communist
line." commented the Cavalcade's director, in the process of pointing out
several changes that he wanted made. "Everybody has to have a Jewish name
in the script, or an Italian name--why do you have to do that? Fix that."
And Sloane did. "Pop Silverman" became simply "Pop."
Howard Blue
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:14:32 -0500
From: "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Blacklisting Bud
A few responses to Mr. Blue's comments, if I may.
It was hardly Collyer's responsibiliy to thoroughly investigate every
claim of Communist allegiance which came to his attention, even if he'd
been able to do so. He was not a government or law enforcement official.
He was the head of a private organization which had every right to exclude
those they considered to be dangerous, without trial, without any "hard"
evidence whatsoever. He also belonged to a community and a country which
he believed, with good reason, to be at close grips with a destructive and
seductive ideology. No doubt he felt that it was his obligation to fight
back in every way he could - being elected president probably seemed
like a rare, God-given opportunity to take the offensive. That he did
so does not reveal some hidden dark side of an otherwise spotless
character. His actions were not illegal or immoral, only, at most,
misguided.
Yes, it's a darn shame that some saw only a utopian dream and
suffered for their naivete, and especially that innocents were injured in
the clash. But this is *not* a perfect world. It will never be one. In
the fight against evil, innocents suffer; that does not mean we should
condemn the attempt! If we ignore the besiegers in our haste to judge the
sins of the besieged, we will pay a heavy price.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending McCarthy or HUAC; they went much
too far. I just don't like to see the world divided up so easily into
innocents and oppressors, without any shades of grey - especially by those
who claim objectivity.
Jennifer
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:50:07 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in otr history
>From Those Were The Days --
1952 - My Little Margie, starring Gale Storm and Charles Farrell, made
its debut on CBS.
Joe
--
Visit my home page:
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:53:36 -0500
From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: JAPANESE "PEARL HARBOR" ADMIRAL SECRET
The Demise of the Japanese Pearl Harbor Admiral: an Aborted Radio Show
The following story is paraphrased from "Words at War," a new book
from
Scarecrow Press by Howard Blue:
During World War II, CBS radio almost revealed one of the [removed]'s top
wartime secrets, the breaking of the Japanese code. The success of the
code breakers has long been known. However, a 1943 broadcast came close
to letting the cat out of the bag. This came about because In pursuit of
authentic materials the late Allan Sloane, writer for the dramatic
series, The Man Behind in the Gun, periodically visited bars to talk to
servicemen. "I got a story nobody knows," one Air Force man told him. "I
was in the outfit that shot down that SOB Yamamoto." The man, a crew
member of a P-38, was referring to the April 1943 shooting down of a
bomber, which killed Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, the commander of the fleet
that carried out the attack on Pearl Harbor. "But that's a land based
plane!" Sloane replied with a puzzled look, not realizing he had stumbled
onto the biggest story of his career. "That's right. That's how we got
him. We knew exactly where he was going to be and when." Sloane then
visited the library and researched the incident.
As a result of Sloane's encounter with the crewman, his finished script
contained a great deal of factual content missing from newspaper accounts
of the incident. However, when the script was submitted to the censors,
it was slapped down. "Eliminate all references to the P-38,"Sloane's boss
was told. "We'd love to find out where you got some of this information."
In the end, although neither Sloane nor his director were told why, the
script had to be discarded. The problem, as Sloane learned after the war,
was the comment "We knew exactly where he was going to be and when." Had
a Japanese spy heard the projected broadcast, the revelation might have
set back the Allied war effort in the Pacific by several months.
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