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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 241
A Part of the [removed]!
[removed]
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Beefsteak For A Black Eye [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
7-24 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Page dropping mystery solved [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
Jubilee? [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
BRIGHT STAR [ Gsgreger@[removed] ]
Moore/Kirkwood/Putnam [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
George Putnam [ "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed]; ]
Funny Men [ "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed] ]
George Putnam (Off Topic) [ "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback ]
Tommy Dorsey Show [ "Austotr" <austotr@[removed]; ]
Victor Moore [ <fc90030@[removed]; ]
OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
Big Bands [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
A check for a short beer? [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
7-25 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Re:"Lawremce" Albert [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
More Benny [ "corganoid@[removed]" <corganoid@jun ]
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:51:35 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Beefsteak For A Black Eye
Arlene Osborne asks, anent applying a beefsteak on a black eye,
Can anyone tell me how this practice got started? Was it because the
beef was cold or perhaps it was thought to have some medicinal
qualities?
Probably the former. In many larger cities, in the early 20th Century,
barbers kept a jar of leeches to treat bruises, including black eyes (the
red stripe on the barber pole is an echo that in earlier times, barbers
were considered minor surgeons). In New York City in the late 1950s, I
found a largish barber shop that advertised that they had leeches, so the
practice may still be ongoing. However, recall that in the 1930s, there
were many parts of the [removed] where there were ice boxes rather than
refrigerators, and a piece of meat kept in one of those would be cold
enough when applied to a "shiner" to minimize the subctaneous bleeding.
Besides being cold, a beefsteak would be flexible, making it easier to
adjust to facial contours, and unlike a ham steak, wouldn't be cured.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:52:52 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 7-24 births/deaths
July 24th births
07-24-1853 - William Gillette - Hartford, CT - d. 4-29-1937
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"
07-24-1890 - Basil Ruysdael - Jersey City, NJ - d. 10-20-1960
announcer: "Beggar's Bowl"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Cavalcade of America"
07-24-1907 - Glenn Riggs - East McKeesport, PA - d. 9-12-1975
announcer: "Musical Varities"; "Hop Harrigan"; "Boston Blackie"
07-24-1911 - Raymond Edward Johnson - Kenosha, WI - d. 8-15-2001
actor: Raymond your host "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"; Don Winslow "Don Winslow
of the Navy"
07-24-1913 - Hollace (Vivien) Shaw - Fresno, CA - d. 3-2-1976
singer: "Blue Velvet"; "Vic Damone and Hollace Shaw Show"
07-24-1914 - Frank Silvera - Kingston, Jamaica, West Indies - d. 6-11-1970
actor: "X Minus One"
07-24-1916 - Bob Eberly - Mechanicsville, NY - d. 11-17-1981
singer: (Jimmy Dorsey Band)
07-24-1921 - Billy Taylor - Greenville, SC
host: "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Bing Crosby Show"; "Genius of Duke"
July 24th deaths
01-12-1892 - Ed McConnell - Atlanta, GA - d. 7-24-1954
host, actor: Smilin' Ed McConnell Show"
03-05-1920 - Virginia Christine - Stanton, IA - d. 7-24-1996
actress: "Confession"; "Gunsmoke"
07-18-1872 - Fred Sullivan - London, England - d. 7-24-1937
actor: Kirby Willoughby "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"; Mitchell Frazier "Story of
Mary Marlin"
09-08-1925 - Peter Sellers - Southsea, England - d. 7-24-1980
comedian: Hercules Grytpype-Thynne, Major Dennis Bloodnok, others "Goon Show"
10-22-1905 - Constance Bennett - NYC - d. 7-24-1965
interviewer, panelist: "Constance Bennett Calls on You"; "Leave It to the
Girls"
12-13-1905 - Jay Jostyn - Milwaukee, WI - d. 7-24-1977
actor: Max Tilley "Life of Mary Sothern"; Mr, District Attorney "Mr. District
Attorney"
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Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:56:26 -0400
From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Page dropping mystery solved
I know this subject has been discussed a bit lately and seems to come up
every once in awhile.
Check the link below, there is a LOT of paper on the floor. Sound
effects maybe?
[removed]
Bill H.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:23:35 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jubilee?
Does anyone else here collect Jubilee, the war-time jazz show? I have quite a few but
there are a still many episodes listed in [removed] that I have been
unable to track down. Please let me know if you might be able to help me out. Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:23:38 -0400
From: Gsgreger@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: BRIGHT STAR
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I've recently had the pleasure of listening to about two dozen episodes of
"The Irene Dunne-Fred MacMurray Show," also called "Bright Star." It was a
syndicated show broadcast during the 1952-1953 season. It's a cute light comedy
series about the "light love affair" between the editor of the Hillsdale
Morning Star (Irene Dunne as Susan Armstrong) and her "ace reporter" (Fred MacMurray
as George Harvey). The announcer for approximately the first half of the
series was Harry Von Zell, while Wendell Niles did the announcing for the
remaining shows.
Although only Dunne and MacMurray's characters are identified by the
announcer, I have recognized guest players including Sheldon Leonard, Parley Baer,
Hans Conried, Tony Barrett, Betty Lou Gerson, Barton Yarborough, Jeff Silver, Joe
DuVal, Martha Wentworth, Joe Granby, Jack Kruschen, Vic Perrin, Ed Max, Ralph
Moody and Barney Phillips.
Two supporting characters in every episode were the Morning Star Copy Boy,
Sammy, and Susan's housekeeper/cook, Patience. It appears that Sammy is either
a teenager or in his very early twenties and the actor plays him as a cross
between Jughead Jones and Homer Brown. Patience's voice is similar to Ann B.
Davis, but surely isn't her.
Do any of you readers know what actors play Sammy or Patience? I've
consulted both editions of Dunning and several other OTR reference books to no avail.
I just can't identify them. HELP!!!!!
Thanks!
Gordon Gregersen
La Grande, Oregon
Heart of the Blue Mountains and the Grande Ronde Valley
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:27:56 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Moore/Kirkwood/Putnam
Growing up in Jackson Heights, Queens, NYC, I couldn't HELP but know who
Victor Moore was. He invested in an Art Deco bus station/subway station/store
& office building known as the Victor Moore Arcade. It stood until a year or
two ago, long after Moore sadly had been forgotten. Moore was Vice President
Alexander Throttlebottom in the Broadway musical: "Of Thee I Sing." That
really put him on the map.
Even as a pre-teen I enjoyed the humor of Jack Kirkwood. I believe he had a
daily show very early in the evening.
George Putnam amazes me. He was "George Carson Putnam" on early DuMont
Television doing a daily noontime "Headline Clues" telecast. This was in the
late 40s or early 50s. He was followed by "live" daily variety shows hosted
by the likes of Johnny Olsen and Dennis James.
This was the kind of stuff that, sadly, drew us kids away from radio in 1949
(except, of course, the 5 to 6 pm kids' drama block).
BILL KNOWLTON: "Bluegrass Ramble," WCNY-FM ([removed]) Syracuse, WUNY ([removed])
Utica; WJNY ([removed]) Watertown NY. On the web: [removed]. Sundays: 9 pm to
midnight EST (since 1973)
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:28:16 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: George Putnam
Thanks to seandd for the site where George Putnam Remembers. Got a kick out
of it!
George was in and out of KFI Los Angeles often, and many times someone
wanted to introduce me to him. He came off like a huge puppy dog who
wanted to lick my face in his enthusiasm. I slipped away when I saw him
arriving.
Lois Culver
KFI Los Angeles 1944-1950 intermittantly
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:41:03 -0400
From: "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Funny Men
Remember the stoic but perplexed plumber trying to get Marilyn Monroe's toe out of the
bathtub faucet in "Seven Year Itch"? Victor Moore.
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Donald P. Tuttle
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:41:28 -0400
From: "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: George Putnam (Off Topic)
George Putnam, who was a LA newsanchor in the sixties and seventies (and got
paid one dollar more than Walter Cronkite, I've heard him say), was the
basis for Ted Baxter. If you ever heard Putnam speak, you'd see the
resemblance of his delivery is unmistakable. Over the years, the creators
of the Mary Tyler Moore show have diplomatically said that Ted was a
combinatin of newscasters. But I got to know one of the main writers for
the show several years ago and she confirmed that George was the
inpsiration. Putnam himself seems proud of the connection.
- Philip
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:41:57 -0400
From: "Austotr" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Tommy Dorsey Show
G'Day folks,
I was recently successful in purchasing 104 16" Transcriptions of the Tommy
Dorsey Show. Apparently there are 40+ complete shows and the rest partials
(2 Transcriptions per show).
Has somebody logged the various series Tommy Dorsey was involved in? These
Transcriptions are copies made for broadcast in Australia and I wanted to
try and identify the original shows. My understanding from feedback I have
received is that not many of the Tommy Dorsey Show are in circulation.
Ian Grieve
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:42:33 -0400
From: <fc90030@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Victor Moore
Al Girade asks about Victor Moore.
First off let me suggest to anyone unfamiliar with this great old
performer that they ought to simply, "Google," or, "Dogpile," his
name.
Second, one could view a couple of great old movies like, "The
Seven Year Itch," or "Swing Time." Yes, he brought his marvelous
talents to films where super-stars like Fred Astaire and Ginger
Rogers and Marilyn Monroe got top billing but he got the biggest
laughs.
Third, track down the Smithsonian's rare recordings of the original
broadway cast albums of, "Anything Goes," or, "Of Thee I Sing."
Yes, Cole Porter and George Gershwin both wrote some of their
funniest material for him to introduce to the world.
And above all enjoy the talents of a wistfully delightful little guy
named, Victor Moore.
Frank Coopersmith
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:58:07 -0400
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK
Hi friends,
Here is this week's line-up for the week of 7-11-04 on my Olde Tyme
Radio
[removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
streaming RealAudio at [removed]
Past archived broadcasts are also available there.
We look forward to having you join us!
Jerry
Here's this week's lineup:
SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
RAMONA AND HER MIGHTY MINIATURE MINSTRELS
Episode 1 1-21-45
MUTUAL SUSTAINED Sundays 10:15 - 10:30pm
STARS: Ramona
WITH: Jerry, Eddie and Joan
ANNOUNCER/JOKE TELLER: Don Frederick
THE YOUNG IN HEART
Audition Show 12-4-47 "Treasure Island"
Stars: Marvin Miller, Jerry Farber, Harry Lang, Ken Christie, Paul Mc Vey
CBS SUSTAINED
HOST: Alan Reed
PRODUCER/DIRECTOR/ADAPTOR: Ralph Rose
CRIMINAL AT LARGE
Audition Show 9-11-47 "Murder In Stone
Announcer/Narrator: Ken Carpenter
"Find the Criminal and Win a Thousand Dollars."
PHILCO RADIO TIME
Episode 19 2-19-47 (recorded 2-4-47) UNEDITED and UNCUT version
Stars: Bing Crosby
Guests: Judy Garland, William Frawley and Director Leo McCarey
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HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
LIFE WITH LUIGI
CBS 2-20-49 "Luigi Has a Cold"
Stars: J. Carrol Naish and Teddy Bergman
MURDER AT MIDNIGHT
Syndicated 1946-47 (Encore 1950) "The Ape Song"
Stars: Raymond Edward Johnson
FIBBER McGEE & MOLLY
NBC 10-16-53 "The Executive Club"
======================================
THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak
The Adventures of the Falcon - "The Case of the Careless Client"
originally aired October 15, 1950 on NBC
Starring: Les Damon, Ed Herlihy announcing.
Sponsor: Kraft Foods Company
The Adventures of Sam Spade, Detective - "The Hot Hundred Grand Caper"
originally aired September 19, 1948 on CBS
Starring: Howard Duff, Lurene Tuttle, John McIntyre, June Havoc, Joseph
Kearns,
Wally Maher, Dick Joy announcing.
Sponsor: Wild Root Creme Oil Hair Tonic
Nick Carter, Master Detective - "The Make-Believe Murder"
originally aired July 22, 1945 on MUTUAL
Starring: Lon Clark, Charlotte Manson, Ed Latimer, Ken Powell announcing.
Sponsor: Lin-X Home Brighteners
The Adventures of Philip Marlowe - "The Black Halo"
originally aired January 15, 1949 on CBS
Starring: Gerald Mohr, Joan Banks, Jeff Corey, Paul Frees, Peter Leeds, Jack
Kruschen,
Lois Corbet, Roy Rowan announcing.
Sustained
Richard Diamond, Private Detective - "The Betty Moran Case"
originally aired May 29, 1949 on NBC
Starring: Dick Powell, Virginia Gregg, Ed Begley, Wilms Herbert, Jack
Petruzzi, Herbert Butterfield,
Tol Avery, Eddie King announcing.
Writer: Blake Edwards
Sustained
====================================
Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
shows.
Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387
[removed] The Vintage Radio Place
Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:40:12 -0400
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Big Bands
George Keilback posted
One thing that I noticed is the lack of sites to go to in regard to Big
Band Music. At least I have not come across them as yet. I may be younger
but I do appreciate Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw and bands like
them.
I'd recommend David Miller's "Swinging Down The Lane" website at
[removed]
Lots of good information and conversation on it and no membership is required.
George Aust
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:01:16 -0400
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: A check for a short beer?
Hello, anyone know what this phrase means from Fibber McGee and Molly?
Thanks a lot.
Matthew
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:01:25 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 7-25 births/deaths
July 25th births
07-25-1894 - Walter Brennan - Swampscott, MA - d. 9-21-1974
actor: Grandpa Vanderhof "You Can't Take it with You"; Judge Roy Bean "Law
West of the Pecos"
07-25-1899 - Ralph Dumke - South Bend, IN - d. 1-4-1964
actor: Willie Tompkins "We, the Abbotts"; Pat Plenty "Quality Twins"
07-25-1900 - Al Pearce - San Francisco, CA - d. 6-2-1961
comedian: Elmer Blurt "Here Comes Elmer"; "Al Pearce Show"
07-25-1905 - Harold Peary - San Leandero, CA - d. 3-30-1985
actor: Throckmorton P. Gildersleeve , "Fibber McGee and Molly and The Great
Gildersleeve"
07-25-1907 - Jack Gilford - NYC - d. 6-4-1990
comedian: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
07-25-1918 - Nan Grey - Houston, TX - d. 7-25-1993
actress: Kathy Marshall "Those We Love"
July 25th deaths
03-30-1893 - Dennis Hoey - London, England - d. 7-25-1960
actor: Edward Welby "Pretty Kitty Kelly"
04-26-1912 - John McGovern - d. 7-25-1985
actor: Mike Gallagher "Highway Patrol"; Harold Wilkinson "The O'Neills"
04-29-1912 - Ian Martin - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 7-25-1981
actor: Horace Sutton "Young Dr. Malone"; Harry Archer "Meet Corliss Archer"
05-31-1903 - Blanche Stewart - PA - d. 7-25-1952
actress: Brenda "Bob Hope Show"
07-25-1918 - Nan Grey - Houston, TX - d. 7-25-1993
actress: Kathy Marshall "Those We Love"
08-16-1932 - Marianne Moylan - Southampten, NY - d. 7-25-1990
singer: (The Moylan Sisters) (Angels of the Airwaves) "Moylan Sisters"
10-07-1914 - Alfred Drake - The Bronx, NY - d. 7-25-1992
singer: "Best Plays"; Broadway Matinee"; "Ford Festival of American Music"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:02:54 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re:"Lawremce" Albert
Their was a posting yesterday from "Lawrence" Albert. Is that the same
Albert who, before he got snooty, called himself "Larry".
I once knew a "Larry" Albert. A super nice guy, (but terribly mixed up
politically). He happened to be a former military man, so that made him a
hero in my eye. He' also a very talented contemporary radio actor. Anyway,
this individual "Lawrence" Albert, just posted a comment of two about the
dreaded "Page Turning" thread.
However it also causes me to wonder if such in depth discussion of such
minutia is healthy.
It's funny you should mention that. My psychiatrist said the same thing. he
told me he wouldn't remove my restraints (straight jacket) unless I promised
to shut the hell up about it. Off the [removed](momentarily). has the term
"Straight Jacket" become politically incorrect? Has the Gay community
organized a protest march to get the Government to create an equal
opportunity term.
Anyway, I find this Albert guy's posting very enlightening. (Primarily
because he agrees with me 100%.) Way to go, Lawrence. He goes on to say:
the actors we use on Imagination Theater are all professionals, they make
their respective livings as actors or voice over talent, and members of AFTRA
and we have never had anyone who dropped their pages. That is until last
week.
Their are always exceptions to the rules. But it's interesting to note,
(perhaps only to me) that the exceptions are the ones that I already
outlined in my prior posts.
last week one of our folks decided he just couldn't lift the top page off
and place it underneath with out either making noise or losing his place in
the script.
Lack of Manual dexterity looms it's ugly head. Plus lack of practice to
perfect the technique.
so his decision was to place each page on the floor. This actor stands
6'8" and it was understandably something of a comical sight to see him drop
all the way down just to place the page as quietly as possible on the deck
and
then bounce back up to his full height to say his next line.
Someone should have stepped on his necktie when he was in the "stooped"
position, then see the fun begin. Is Imagination Theatre planning to use him
again?
(SNIP) >I will also state that if the actor had dropped his script pages I
would have stopped him from continuing to do so.
My hero! What method would you have used? A Karate chop alongside the head?
Or a kick to the nether regions? :)
Not only would the sound have been picked up by the Mic but it's just plain
sloppy.
I knew I liked members of the Albert family. [removed] [removed] Makes no
nevermind. They are both brilliant.
Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:03:10 -0400
From: "corganoid@[removed]" <corganoid@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: More Benny
Greetings all,
All the discussion about Jack Benny lately got me thinking about a qestion
I've had for a long time, but never thought to ask.
In the opening of some of the later Lucky Strike programs there is an
announcer who says "[removed]" We all know what that means, but between
the lines we hear what sounds like some kind of mechanical device clicking.
So, pardon me if this sounds idiotic, but what is that sound suposed to
represent and how is it relevant to Lucky Strike being fine tobacco?
Peace,
Doug
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