Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #227
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 6/20/2002 8:44 AM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 227
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Stephen Kallis                        [ badaxley@[removed] ]
      OTR Offspring & Lon Chaney Jr.        [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
      Re: Radio about the Handicapped, Rad  [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      I Love To Singa                       [ John <glowingdial1@[removed]; ]
      Captain Marvel                        [ JimInks@[removed] ]
      radio spirits single tapes            [ Ruk77@[removed] ]
      Re Captain Midnight Book.             [ "Thomas Mason" <batz34@[removed] ]
      Memory's the second thing to [removed]    [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      More Censorship                       [ Kelli Stanley <ks4color@[removed] ]
      Re: RSI singles                       [ Ga6string@[removed] ]
      Captains Marvel and Midnight          [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Australian 'New Time Radio' or 'Old   [ "The Old Time Radio Shop" <[removed] ]
      Batman on radio                       [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
      Capt. Marvel; Fu Manchu; radio vs mo  [ "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl ]
      MP3 Giveaway VI                       [ "Richard Carpenter" <sinatra@raging ]
      The more things [removed]             [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      Brittany Spears and "Suspense"        [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
      Re: DER BINGLE UNDT DER VITE XMAS     [ "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail ]
      Erwin Piscator                        [ "Christian Blees" <christian-blees@ ]
      RE: Blank Cds                         [ "Larry" <larryuhl@[removed]; ]
      CDs                                   [ "Kevin Boleware" <kevinboleware@hot ]

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:07:42 -0400
    From: badaxley@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Stephen Kallis

    I haven't heard from Stephen Kallis in the digest
    lately.  Hope he is doing okay.
    Bob Axley

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:10:37 -0400
    From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Offspring & Lon Chaney Jr.

    I was just catching up on my digest reading (it broke
    my heart that I snoozed during that "Halls of Ivy"
    give-away), and in the thread concerning the names of
    entertainers whose children followed them into the
    business someone mentioned "Lon Chaney & Jr."

    Now being a fan of both of these performers, let me
    take this as my chance to see if I can stump the
    experts who make this list such a fun read each day.
    I've been in this hobby for several years now and I've
    searched high and low for any recording of Lon Chaney
    Jr. performing in what would be considered OTR. I
    mean, good grief, the man starred in an entire series
    of "Inner Sanctum" movies, how could he not be on the
    radio series??? Does anyone on the list know of any
    OTR appearances by Chaney [removed]

    After years of searching, I've only found one
    appearance by Lon Chaney Jr. in OTR. Anybody who can
    name it gets the "Mayor LaTrivia Trivia Award",... and
    anyone who can enlighten me about any other times when
    Chaney appeared on radio will win my deepest
    appreciation.

    FIBBERMAC

    [removed] Bonus questions: Anyone have any ideas why Chaney
    shunned performing on radio? What other movie stars of
    the era refused to work in the medium of radio and
    why?

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:02:02 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Radio about the Handicapped, Radio for
     the Blind

    [Yes, I know the term "handicapped" is out of fashion, but as one with a
    few handicaps of my own, I prefer it to "disabled." I'm still "able," I
    just have to work around a few "handicaps." If it doesn't offend
    golfers, it doesn't offend me. Of course, golfers are used to being
    [removed]  And now we don't say "disbled," either, it's "people with
    disabilities." Not "people with handicaps," mind you, but "people with
    disabilities." All rather precious and a little silly, to my thinking;
    the same thinking that compelled Disney to stop calling Mickey Mouse's
    arch enemy Black Pete (formerly the handicapped villain Pegleg Pete) by
    his rightful name and to, instead, rename him Big Bad Pete so that now
    he and the Big Bad Wolf are constantly getting each other's mail.]

    Anyhow, on the subject of treatment of the handicapped on OTR, a couple
    of folks a while back spoke of two blind detectives who had their own
    series. Dennis Crow <DCrow3@[removed]; spoke of a series entitled
    "The Mysteries of Max Carrados," about a blind detective of that name
    from the BBC. Tom and Susan Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed]; told us about
    a South African show from the 60's entitled "The Sounds Of Darkness." I
      recall that one of The Shadow's most formidable opponents was a blind
    mastermind who was not the least inconvenienced by Lamont Cranston's
    ability to cloud men's minds so that they could not see him. (Say, do
    you suppose he could use his power to cloud blind men's minds so that
    they COULD see him?) Then, of course, there's the old Escape episode,
    "Country of the Blind," (John Collier, maybe?) where the sighted person
    was the freak. Might be a useful show to help sighted listeners place
    the shoe on the other foot.

    On a related topic, a couple of folks in recent months mentioned
    something referred to as Radio for the Blind. I have no idea exactly
    what they were talking about and would very much like to have more
    information.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:15:13 -0400
    From: John <glowingdial1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  I Love To Singa

    Folks, I have a copy of I Love To Singa on one of Warner's Laserdisc box
    sets.  Almost perfect copies can be made as there is no macrovision.
    Contact me offline if interested.  I think Gary Yoggy was the first one who
    asked about it.
    John.
    glowingdial@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:15:55 -0400
    From: JimInks@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Captain Marvel

    Captain Marvel (orignally named Captain Thunder, though that name never
    appeared in print) was originally supposed to be a rip off of Superman.  The
    original creator, writer Bill Parker, was the one who decided to go in a
    different direction.  Cap's visual co-creator, [removed] Beck (whom I got to know
    fairly well), designed the outfit and drew the early stories (and also wrote
    one story and did some tinkering with the stories) and many of the later ones
    until the end of it's Fawcett run.  Beck opened an artists' studio when the
    workload became too much for him (this doesn't count the early stories that
    Jack Kirby and George Tuska did as freelance contractors).

    Otto Binder wrote over half of all the Captain Marvel comic books from WW2
    until the end in 1953.  DC Comics licensed the character for years, starting
    in 1972 and finally purchased the feature outright sometime in the mid 1980's.

    I've heard that a west coast Captain Marvel show was done during WW2 for 13
    weeks, but have never been able to absolutely confirm it.  I'd sure like to
    know.

    In my opinion, Captain Marvel was a better drawn and written series in it's
    day than Superman was.  Cap also had more humor and charm.

    -Jim Amash

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:16:41 -0400
    From: Ruk77@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  radio spirits single tapes

    radio spirits has canselled their custom recording service and since mediabay
    bought out carl amari the company has gone downhill fast. the real shame to
    me is that they recently acuired a vault of uncirculated tapes which may be
    caught up in corporate red tape for now. check out the catalog at radiogold
    [removed] In this catalog there are over 500 Nick Carter episodes that I
    have not seen in any colloction to mention just one show. and i had recently
    paid $[removed] for 3 'custom 'lists of shows which you are supposed to get back
    when you place an order. well when i tried to place an order they told me
    they no longer offer this service. what a scam. If any one can tell me how i
    can get copies of shows from this collection I would be very happy. I heard
    MediaBay bought out amari for 5 million, moved the company to New Jersey and
    will file bankrupsty soon, ruining all the hard work that company has done
    for OTR. I know they have done some bad things too, but i must admit i might
    not have discovered OTR if not for radio $pirits

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:16:53 -0400
    From: "Thomas Mason" <batz34@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re Captain Midnight Book.

    Anyone interested in the fine Captain Midnight Book by Mr. Kallis can order
    it directly from the Publisher MacFarland Books by telephoning their toll
    free number: Telephone Order (800-253-2187)  Their site says it is available
    for immediate shipment.
    Tom Mason

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:17:34 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Memory's the second thing to [removed]

    Someone posted a while ago that they had loaned their copy of Milt
    Josefsberg's book to a friend to loan to Kelsey Grammar.  Who was that?
    Please contact me offline.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:10:11 -0400
    From: Kelli Stanley <ks4color@[removed];
    To: OldRadio Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  More Censorship

    Thanks, as always, to Elizabeth for her astounding wealth of knowlege
    and her generosity in sharing it.
    The political dialogue over radio sounds much like that which surrounded
    the comic book controversy in the '50s--when the infamous Wertham book
    "Seduction of the Innocent" was used by vote-hungry demagogues to stir
    up the old "X causes juvenile delinquency, moral degeneracy, etc." (X in
    this case being comic books--Dr. Wertham was the brain behind the "S&M"
    take on Wonder Woman, and of course the homosexual pedophilia charges
    against Bruce Wayne.)  The Comics Code Authority emerged from the mess,
    a self-censoring industry body designed to placate outraged parents and
    somehow still keep comic books alive.  William Gaines, publisher of Mad,
    transformed his comic into a magazine in order to circumvent the code's
    requirement.
    The whole subject is fascinating and makes me wonder: does anyone know
    of an actual list of words, situations, people (other than poor Mae) or
    characters forbidden from the air? In other words, was the censorship
    codified, as it was in the film and comic book industries?  Or was it
    just ad hoc until the McCarthy era targed liberals?  Any info much
    appreciated, as always.

    Kelli Stanley

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:56:41 -0400
    From: Ga6string@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: RSI singles

    Eric Wilson writes:

>     The single tapes seem to come in special flyers now,  and are still
>     searchable through the web site>> <<the "new release" singles [are
>     available]
>     on cassette AND CD.  What I'M really wondering about is if the custom
>     recording service is still [removed]

    Hi Eric,
    Thanks for the tip about the web site. It's true, the archive of single tape
    releases does appear to be available there, while it's not in the catalog.
    Wonder why? As for the bimonthly flyers of CD/cassette new releases, that's
    been going on for a LONG time (years?), but it in any case an opportunity to
    pick up individual items on CD or cassette. As for the custom service, did
    you ever use it? I ordered the listings for a couple of programs, but was so
    disappointed (particularly in comparison with the exhaustive choices and
    listings from Radio Yesteryear, RIP) at what was available, and at the lack
    of detail that I never ordered from them. I still buy CD releases and other
    items from them occasionally, though. However, it seems RSI is increasingly
    more concerned with capturing a broad market of newcomers and casual fans
    than with serving the specific needs of more involved fans/collectors, which
    means they'll have less and less to offer most of the folks on this list.
    Bryan Powell

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:57:33 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Captains Marvel and Midnight

    Philip Chavin notes,

>     Re the current discussion on the Digest about Captain Marvel: I haven't
>     noticed anyone mention the connection between Captain Marvel and Captain
>     Midnight (which *was* a radio program).  That is:  I believe Fawcett's
>     Captain Midnight comic books were advertised in the pages of Fawcett's
>     comic books featuring Captain Marvel.  And vice versa.

    Well, the Captain Midnight comic book was barely related to the radio
    show.  To cover all bases, there were five flavors of Ca[ptain Midnight,
    more or less in order of appearance.  The radio show, the movie serial,
    the newspaper comic strip, the Fawcett comic book, and the TV show.

    Naturally, the OTR show was the mother lode for all the spinoffs.  The
    closest to the radio show was the newspaper comic strip, followed by the
    movie serial, the TV show, and the comic book.  the comic book turned a
    fairly straightforward hero into a superhero with obligatory skin-tight
    uniform, gadgets ("gliderchute" and "doom beam," for two), and the like.
    As with the movie serial, there's no mention of the Secret Squadron.  The
    Fawcett Comics version of Captain Midnight was based on another Fawcett
    character, Spy Smasher.

    The newspaper strip, which was closest to the radio program, had the full
    panoply of characters -- Chuck, Joyce, Ichabod Mudd.  The Comic book, and
    the TV show retained Ichabod Mudd as comic relief.

>     Speaking of Captain Midnight, would anyone have a copy of Stephen
>     Kallis's book "Radio's Captain Midnight: The Wartime Biography" that you
>     could sell to me?  I'll be glad to pay the full price you paid for it
>     (plus for postage and packing, of course). It would be OK with me if your
>     copy happens to be damaged. Thanks!

    Umm .. the book is still in print.  Anyone can get it from the publisher,
    McFarland & Company ( [removed] ), or from e-commerce
    places such as [removed], [removed], and the like.  It can also be
    special-ordered through any bookstore if the person ordering it doesn't
    mind a five-week wait.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:03:16 -0400
    From: "The Old Time Radio Shop" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Australian 'New Time Radio' or 'Old Time
     Radio'
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    Does anyone have any information about the following titles:

    Adventure Into Fear
    Strange Tales From Down Under
    Slightly Out To Lunch (this would be 'NTR' dated 4/22/84
    Strange Stories Of The Sea
    Strange Last Words
    The Naked Vicar Show

    - I'm not for sure if all of these titles are Australian or not, I
    have only listened to the 'Slightly Out To Lunch' so I know it's
    Australian Comedy, but I have no other information other than that.
    Any information of these series' would be most appreciated.
    Shawn

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:03:26 -0400
    From: AandG4jc@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Batman on radio

    Barbara     Thanks for the info on Batman being on NPR. I hope they do a
    Superman segment soon and some other radio influences.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:03:48 -0400
    From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Capt. Marvel; Fu Manchu; radio vs movies

    This posting might be somewhat off the major topic of this digest, but I've
    just read # 244 and want to back
    up some comments I read there.

    John Southard is certainly right about the superiority of the [removed]
    movie serial.  I have that serial and many
    other movie serials, and Capt. Marvel is by far the best.  I was surprised
    to hear on this OTR Digest that Capt. Marvel was ever on the radio.  If
    anyone is interested, I would rank the Spy Smasher movie serial as second
    best.

    I started reading Capt. Marvel in the late '30s and continued through the
    '40s.  I still have some of those comics.  I never cared much for Superman
    in the comics,
    although I did enjoy the radio show.  Is that because the
    radio show drew you into a story much more than
    pictures and printed dialogue?

    I remember when the first newspaper comic striip of Superman began in the
    Kansas City Star (or K. C. Times?).  I think that dates me pretty well.  As
    a young boy, I liked the Fu Manchu movie serial.  Not too long ago, I
    acquired the radio serial and found it quite disappointing.  Since many OTR
    fans like the Fu Manchu
    serial, I'm sure it's just a gut reaction on my part.  I have the Fu Manchu
    movie serial and my reaction to it as a man in my '70s, comparing it to my
    memory of it as a youngster, was quite interesting.  I think these serials
    can only be judged properly by the age of the audience they were made for.
    But I still enjoy the Captain Marvel serial even today, partly because of
    the boy in me but partly becauseof it's quality.

    Harry Machin, Jr.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:28:37 -0400
    From: "Richard  Carpenter" <sinatra@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  MP3 Giveaway VI

      Now that all my duplicate "Gunsmoke" MP3s have found good homes, I'd like
    to give away a "Suspense" CD-R containing 101 early shows. In testing the
    CD just now, I found a couple of tracks that dragged but the rest appear to
    play fine, in the manner of MP3s from who knows where. The first person who
    e-mails me gets the CD-R free, postage paid, complete with spiffy label and
    jewel case.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:29:04 -0400
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The more things [removed]

>     This exaggerated newspaper coverage in turn, whipped censorship advocates
>     -- notably Senator Clyde Herring (D-Iowa), who suggested that radio was a
>     major contributor to juvenile delinquency, rising violent crime rates, and
>     the general decline of American family life <snip>....

    Gee, where have I heard *that* before?  I had to read it twice to make
    certain Elizabeth said "radio" and not "television."  Amazing how this
    argument keeps coming around, eh?  Always propogated by those who feel its
    their duty to mind other people's business; because, after all, we're not
    capable of making decisions for ourselves, are we?  (Of course, when I look
    at something like the WB network, I wonder if I know what I'm talking
    [removed]) ;-)

    Michael

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:34:43 -0400
    From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Brittany Spears and "Suspense"

    I recently read this comment:

>     as Dr. Biel noted, if you record "Suspense" on one it's likely Brittany
>     Spears who receives the check anyway.

    If the Suspense episode were to be "You Died Last Night" or "Murder In G
    Flat", would that be more acceptable?

    Love as always, David Rogers

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:41:35 -0400
    From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: DER BINGLE UNDT DER VITE XMAS

    PURKASZ@[removed] writes:

>         And the irony continues when you realize it was made famous by an
>     Irish
>     Catholic guy named Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby who sang it into recording
>     history so intensely that it broke all record selling history for that time
>     and many years to follow.
>         Until a Beatles tune I think.

    I think you're confusing record records here. No Beatles recording has ever
    outsold "White Christmas," despite "Hey Jude" (later recorded by Crosby as
    well) spending a then-remarkable 9 weeks atop the Billboard Hot 100 record
    chart. The current sales champ, if I recall correctly, is that Elton John
    version of "Candle in the Wind" that he rewrote as a tribute to Princess
    Diana. However, I'm positive that "White Christmas" is indeed the record
    that has appeared on the Hot 100 and its predecessors in the most calendar
    years.

>         It also may have caused him make the Yuletide season such a horror to
>     2
>     of his sons that they committed suicide rather than live through that
>     season
>     of abuse again.

    While I'm sure there were many other factors involved, there is the fact
    that the season in question seems to some to be a club with which the
    majority of society bludgeons the have-not minority. Harlan Ellison wrote an
    entertaining essay on the subject that appears in his EDGEWORKS 3, for those
    who can handle his anatomically-correct language. However, this also brings
    to mind an incident that I once heard about; it seems that a participant in
    a panel discussion program (the name that comes to mind is Irving Kaufman)
    was suspended from the show for a few weeks when he commented about having
    "one show on which you do NOT hear 'Silent Night.'" Anyone have the details
    on that incident?

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:41:48 -0400
    From: "Christian Blees" <christian-blees@[removed];
    To: "OTR digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Erwin Piscator

    Hello all,

    does anybody from the list have any information on the radio work of the
    German director Erwin Piscator he did in the [removed] As far as I know he
    probably wrote some scripts for "March of Time", but I'm absolutely not
    sure. Any information will be appreciated!

    Thanks,

    Christian

    Christian Blees

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:42:05 -0400
    From: "Larry" <larryuhl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Blank Cds
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    Imation is a spin off of 3M recording tape media products that happened about
    7 yeras ago. I have tried many different brands and have found Imation the
    most reliable. I have also bought them at the lowest price with insane rebates
    at Staples, for example my last purchase for a 100 CD pack was regularly $39
    with $10 off and $20 mail in rebate which came to $9 for the 100 CDs.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:42:29 -0400
    From: "Kevin Boleware" <kevinboleware@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  CDs

    There has been some discussion about different types of CDs.  I have found
    that all brands of CDs are equally well made.  All brands are going to have
    some defective disks.  Most people's problems are not going to be with the
    CDs, it is going to be with the software they are using to burn the disks.
    Good software should work with any brand of CD and will help in not having
    bad burns.

    Also I see mention in many different boards about the brand name
    "Imitation".  I have not seen these anywhere.  Stores do carry a brand by
    the name of "Imation".  Is this just a different brand (possibly Imitation
    is not carried in my region) or is this just a very common mistake?

    KTB

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