Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #282
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Date: 9/16/2005 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 282
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      The Green Hornet episode              [ "Karl Schadow" <bluecar91@[removed] ]
      Re: Green Hornet Question             [ Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@y ]
      Dorothy Kilgallen                     [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
      Acting on radio [removed] reading     [ "evantorch" <etorch@[removed]; ]
      This Weekend with Hughes              [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
      9-16 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Random Follow-Up Thoughts             [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      SFX and music                         [ Clif Martin <martbart@[removed]; ]
      RE: Andre Baruch (Ron Sayles' Necrol  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      Kraft Music Hall                      [ DurangoKid@[removed] ]
      Kraft Music Hall                      [ DurangoKid@[removed] ]

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    Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:01:03 -0400
    From: "Karl Schadow" <bluecar91@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Green Hornet episode

    >From Digest # 281:
    The Green Hornet episode is from Tuesday, November 7, 1939. Ned Jordan,
    Secret Agent took over this Mutual timeslot the following Tuesday, November
    14, 1939. Previously, Ned Jordan was heard on WXYZ and the Michigan Network
    on Saturday evenings.
    Karl Schadow

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    Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:58:51 -0400
    From: Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Green Hornet Question

          Andrew Steinberg asked about the date for an
    episode of the Green Hornet that dealt with a phony
    testing lab. At the end it states it's the last show
    on Mutual.
          Funny you mention that episode Andrew. I hadn't
    heard that show for years, as I lost my copy. As luck
    would have it, I was looking through Tom Heathwood's
    archived programs on the Old Tyme Radio Network, and
    there was the episode ( in much better sound than the
    copy I had ) in the Oct. 2004 archives! They list the
    episode air date as 12/29/40. What makes me wonder if
    that's correct is that they list the network as NBC,
    but Tom comments after the show about the announcement
    that this was the last show on Mutual!
          Hope this helps.
                            Ken ( MBS, or NBC? ) Stockinger

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:12:30 -0400
    From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dorothy Kilgallen

    To add to the topic of Dorothy Kilgallen on radio, I have an old magazine ad
    for the American Broadcasting Company (ABC), and it includes Dorothy
    Kilgallen, with a photo of her beside an ABC microphone.  This appears to be
    from the late-1940s, but I don't have an exact year or date for this.  Miss
    Kilgallen was heard over the ABC radio network at this time once-a-week on
    Thursday mornings at 10:45 [removed] EST, sponsored by Drano and Windex.

    The full-page ad includes all the ABC newscasters and commentators of that
    time, including Walter Winchell, Drew Pearson, Elmer Davis, Raymond Swing,
    Don Gardiner and others, including another gossip columnist, Jimmie Fidler.
    Also in that category and in the ad is Louella Parsons, who was on the air
    right after Winchell's show on Sunday nights. The only other woman in the
    ABC ad was journalist Dorothy Fuldheim, who did a weekly program on Saturday
    afternoons over ABC radio.

    I wonder if anyone has details about Kilgallen's ABC radio program from this
    era and how long it lasted?

    Jim Hilliker
    Monterey, CA

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:48:01 -0400
    From: "evantorch" <etorch@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Acting on radio [removed] reading

    About two weeks ago I posted an observation that Jackson Beck and some other
    actors seemed to be reading lines (and somehow therefore failed to convey
    the impression of spontaneous occurence). Many people tried to clarify this
    situation as being the result of the various proclivities of directors,
    experience with the medium of radio and importantly, whether the lines were
    or were not memorized.
    I had another little "epiphany" last night while listening to Bogart
    performing on Romance Theater? (my recording was incomplete), a CBS
    afternoon program [removed] I have heard him give VERY convincing
    performances on radio on Lux or Director's  Guilds etc. but he stumbled
    through this one quite a bit, as only someone with minimal rehearsal time or
    less interest or both would do. I remembered then that I had heard Myrna Loy
    and Clark Gable do this also, but never Agnes Moorehead or Lucille Ball or
    Howard Duff etc. So I [removed] did the "spontaneity factor" have to do also
    with what the actor considered his primary medium OR the size of the
    audience ---"I'm a movie star but this is Lux after all" so I'll rehearse
    and really try"!
    Evan Torch, MD
    Atlanta

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:48:18 -0400
    From: BryanH362@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  This Weekend with Hughes

    By special recording Walden will appear on YesterdayUSA this week only on
    Friday .
    Hear the program at 7:30 pm Pacific / 10:30 pm Eastern . Live streaming on
    the internet
    at [removed].  The program will only be 90 minutes but will return
    next week.

    Friday 9-16-05

    A.  Frank Bresee two part interview with Jack Bailey will  be run plus a
    Family Theater

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:32:42 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-16 births/deaths

    September 16th births

    09-16-1881 - Jack Harvey - Cleveland, OH - d. 11-9-1954
    writer: "Joan Davis Time"
    09-16-1893 - Alexander Korda - Pusztaturpaszto, Hungary - d. 1-23-1956
    director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    09-16-1899 - Sam Spewack - Ukraine, Russia - d. 10-14-1971
    writer: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    09-16-1902 - Philip Reep - d. 1-xx-1985
    singer: (Elm City Four) "The Gay Nineties Revue"
    09-16-1903 - Joe Venuti - d. 8-14-1978
    jazz violinist: "Friendly Five Footnotes";"Paul Whiteman Show"; "Jubilee"
    09-16-1908 - Neil Reagan - Tampico, IL - d. 12-11-1996
    director,announcer: (Brother of Ron) "Dr. Christian"; "Straight Arrow"
    09-16-1911 - Paul Henning - Independence, MO - d. 3-25-2005
    writer: "Burns and Allen"
    09-16-1914 - Allen Funt - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-1999
    host: "Candid Microphone"
    09-16-1919 - Andy Russell - Los Angeles, CA - d. 4-16-1992
    singer: "Your Hit Parade"
    09-16-1919 - Larry Dobkin - New York City, NY - d. 10-28-2002
    actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; Ellery Queen "Advs. of Ellery
    Queen"
    09-16-1921 - Korla Pandit (Juan Rolando) - New Delhi, India - d. 10-1-1998
    organ: "Chandu the Magician"
    09-16-1922 - Janis Paige - Tacoma, WA
    actress: "MGM Theatre of the Air"; "Theatre of Romance"
    09-16-1924 - Lauren Bacall - New York City, NY
    actress: Sailor Duval "Bold Venture"
    09-16-1925 - [removed] King - Itta Bena, MS
    disc jockey: "Boogie for Breakfast"
    09-16-1925 - Charlie Byrd - Chuckatuck, VA - d. 12-1-1999
    jazz guitarist: "Voices of Vista"
    09-16-1926 - Tommy Bond - Dallas, TX
    actor: Randolph Foster "A Date With Judy"
    09-16-1927 - Jack Kelly - Astoria, NY - d. 11-7-1992
    actor: "Suspense"
    09-16-1930 - Anne Francis - Ossinging, NY
    actress: Kathy Cameron "When a Girl Marries"

    September 16th deaths

    01-01-1905 - Richard Keith - New York City, NY - d. 9-16-1976
    actor: Ray Hunt "Myrt and Marge"; Frank W. Brock "Special Investigator"
    01-19-1910 - Jaime Del Valle - d. 9-16-1981
    producer, director: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; "Count of Monte Cristo"
    06-11-1906 - Frank Woodruff - Columbia, SC - d. 9-16-1983
    director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    06-14-1884 - John McCormack - Athone, Ireland - d. 9-16-1945
    singer: "The Atwater-Kent Hour"; "The Vince Program"
    09-07-1910 - Don Ried - d. 9-16-1996
    vocalist: "The Jack Kirkwood Show"
    09-28-1881 - Pedro de Cordoba - New York City, NY - d. 9-16-1950
    actor: John Marshall "Those We Love"; Jose Alvarado "Romance of the Ranchos"
    11-05-1887 - Ralph Moody - St. Louis, MO - d. 9-16-1971
    actor: "Gunsmoke"; "Roy Rogers Show"; "Wild Bill Hickok"
    11-28-1906 - Helen Jepson - Titusville, PA - d. 9-16-1997
    singer: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Show Boat"
    12-02-1923 - Maria Callas - New York City, NY - d. 9-16-1977
    opera singer: "The Metropolitan Opera"
    12-23-1911 - James Gregory - The Bronx, NY - d. 9-16-2002
    actor: Captain Vincent Cronin "21st Precinct"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:41:11 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Random Follow-Up Thoughts
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    Hi Gang:

    I've been on vacation, away from the e-mails, & now finally able to catch up
    on about two weeks of Digests. Here goes:

    SPONSOR FREEBIES:
    Joe Mackey concluded his item about complimentary items sent to OTR
    performers, writers, etc:

>     I have read where sometimes if a product is mentioned on a show (for
>     instance say Coca Cola) the next day cases of Coke would appear on
>     various doorsteps of writers, performers, etc.  Did the same thing apply
>     to higher cost items (cars, etc).

    I'm not sure, Joe, but I've been recently watching Lawrence Welk reruns on
    PBS,  & on one such recent stanza, band member/singer Dick Dale explained in
    the latter-day wrap-around segments that every member of the show received a
    brand-new Dodge automobile every year when the show was alternately known as
    "The Dodge Dance Party." I don't even want to know if the same policy was
    extant when Welk's major sponsor was Geritol.

    On a related note, I had met Jackson Beck's grandson [I can't remember his
    exact name; he's the son of Jackson's stepson-by-marriage Leslie Winters] at
    both Jackson's funeral and memorial service. The grandson, who appeared to
    have been in his mid-to-late twenties, was the right age in the 1980s to
    benefit from his familial connection to Mr. Beck. Y'see, Jackson had the
    voice-over account for the [removed] Joe line of toys, and because of this, he
    reaped the benefits of receiving complimentary editions of every [removed] Joe
    action figure and playset. How cool can that be for a young boy!

    I believe in one of the excellent Jack Benny bios [I'm guessing SUNDAY NIGHTS
    AT SEVEN by Joan Benny], there is a scene from a radio episode in which Jack
    and Rochester are taking inventory. Jack nonchalantly instructs Rochester to
    write down  [I'm being arbitrary here] "my 1943 Oldsmobile," to which Roch
    says "But, boss, you don't have a 1943 Oldsmobile." Jack then confidently
    boasts "I Do Now!" suggesting that he'd soon acquire one because of the free
    plug.  Obviously, the exact details escape me. Oh, Laura?

    "SOMEBODY BAWL FOR BEULAH!"
    Interestingly, the two actors  most associated with "Beulah" died ten years
    apart from each other to the day: Hattie McDaniel on 10/26/1952, and Louise
    Beavers on 10/26/1962.  I'm sure "Professor Birthday"  Ron Sayles can
    corroborate this.

    THE BARRY HILL COLLECTION:
    I can think of no better archivist than Dave Siegel to take on and catalogue
    this massive collection. It's a shame Barryngton never wrote down all the
    jokes--especially his West Virginia ones--to be saved for the ages.

    The one question remains: whatever happened to the Ivan Snell Collection,
    paricularly his pulps?

    SCRIPT-READING:
    My Michigander pal Rick Keating opened up a mishegoss by starting his thread
    about  radio acting versus script-reading. In one of his follow-ups, Rick
    wrote:

>     The late Armand Hammer made a guest
>     appearance on an episode of _The Cosby Show_, and at
>     one point while he's talking, it's painfully obvious
>     that he is _reading_ his dialogue off of cue cards or
>     a teleprompter off camera.

    Maybe Hammer's appearance was Occidental.

    Shovelling off into the ether!

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:30:47 -0400
    From: Clif Martin <martbart@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  SFX and music

    Bob Cockrum wants more sublety in audio drama music and sound effects.  Amen
    and lotsa luck, Bob.  This ain't the era of sublety.  Like you, if I want
    loud, intrusive stereo effects that jolt me out of my seat and make me forget
    what the story was about, I will go to a theater.  If I prefer to lose myself
    in  audio theater of the mind, give me good writing and acting and George
    Wright with his Hammond Organ.  That's all it takes.  To those who will
    complian about this cranky post, kindly send along a jug of Geritol.  Maybe
    the alcohol in it will loosen me up so I can better enjoy the New Time shows.

    Clif Martin

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:01:52 -0400
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Andre Baruch (Ron Sayles' Necrology)

>     08-20-1908 - Andre Baruch - Paris, France - d. 9-15-1991 announcer, disc
>     jockey: "Your Hit Parade"; "Kate Smith
>     Program"; "Myrt and Marge"

    I don't remember whether I ever actually heard Baruch on the radio, but I'll
    never forget Jean Shepherd mentioning him in his "Little Orphan Annie"
    routine, "When Andre Baruch said 'Time marches on,' time really MARCHED!"

     B. Ray

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:56:06 -0400
    From: DurangoKid@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kraft Music Hall

    ^ . . 'Kraft Music Hall' show with Mary Martin,
    Victor Borge and Sabu as a guest in 1942. . A 'Google'
    search within a  few seconds gives the date of this show
     as 16 April 1942 . . ^

    The "BING CROSBY - A Bio-Bibliography"  by J. Roger Osterholm
    lists on page 323 guest stars for 16 April 1942 as Ronald Reagan and
    Spike Jones . . . .
    Mary Martin appeared as a guest on JAN/1st and JAN/8th and regularly
    to OCT/15th . . . The book makes no mention of Sabu as a guest  . .
    Not to say he wasn't ever a guest but the date mentioned has Reagan
    and Jones as guests with Martin as a regular . .

    Glenn E. Mueller
    Rowland Heights, CA

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    Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:56:46 -0400
    From: DurangoKid@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kraft Music Hall

>     . . 'Kraft Music Hall' show with Mary Martin,
>     Victor Borge and Sabu as a guest in 1942. . A 'Google'
>     search within a  few seconds gives the date of this show
>     as 16 April 1942 . .

    The "BING CROSBY - A Bio-Bibliography"  by J. Roger Osterholm
    lists on page 323 guest stars for 16 April 1942 as Ronald Reagan and
    Spike Jones . . . .
    Mary Martin appeared as a guest on JAN/1st and JAN/8th and regularly
    to OCT/15th . . . The book makes no mention of Sabu as a guest  . .
    Not to say he wasn't ever a guest but the date mentioned has Reagan
    and Jones as guests with Martin as a regular . .

    Glenn E. Mueller
    Rowland Heights, CA

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