Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #39
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 2/5/2005 7:21 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 39
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Doc Gamble--Arrowsmith                [ Steve Kostelecky <doyasteve@[removed] ]
  Ranger's brother Dan                  [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
  This Weekend with Walden Hughes       [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
  Fred Allen's grave                    [ "Joseph" <drjoewebb@[removed]; ]
  Will the real Lone Ranger please sta  [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
  History of FM                         [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]
  Fred Allens last residence.           [ Rentingnow@[removed] ]
  2-5 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Fred Allen's death                    [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  XXXIX                                 [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  More on Jack Benny and Johnny Carson  [ seandd@[removed] ]
  Addresses and Steve Allen             [ kk6sj@[removed] ]
  Forsythe Pendleton "Jughead" Jones    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Cincy Convention                      [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
  Character Names                       [ "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@veri ]
  What's My Line                        [ Chargous@[removed] ]

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:24:48 -0500
From: Steve Kostelecky <doyasteve@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Doc Gamble--Arrowsmith

I've always wondered what McGee meant when he referred
to Doc Gamble as "Arrowsmith." Generally Doc makes
some remark about McGee's laziness or girth and McGee
remarks: "Oh, hi, Arrowsmith." I assume it refers to
his status as a doctor but the only Arrowsmith I know
is from Upton Sinclair. Anybody know?

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:25:02 -0500
From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ranger's brother Dan

Hi,

I agree with Steve Kallis regarding John(Lone Ranger)Ried's brother's nome
probably being "Dan".
I may have read it somewhere or heard that Dan Ried was named after his dad
(but of course the Ranger would not call him "Junior" since Dan senior had
died and the younger was carrying on the name).  The Legend goes on!
BTW, my 3 hour "Story of the Lone Ranger" is still available. $[removed] pp.
Contact me: Bobb Lynes, PO Box 561, So. Pasadena, CA 91031.  (End of
commercial).
Bobb

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:25:10 -0500
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  This Weekend with Walden Hughes

Highlight of this weekends Walden Hughes program on Yesterday USA.
Friday , Saturday and Sunday  at 7:30 Pacific Time.
Can be heard live on the internet at [removed]

Friday 2-4-05

A.  Frank Bresee and Walden Hughes interview Herb Ellis. Recorded in 2002.

Saturday 2-5-05

A.  Martin Grams is presently appearing monthly as a feature  of the Saturday
night
     program. This month Martin will discuss the Cavalcade of America
program. The
     segment will conclude with the Cavalcade program from 10-11-1943   "Bob
Hope
     reports to the Nation."

B.  Classic Interviews:  From the 1980s  John Dunning interviews Dick Joy.
Dick Joy
      was the announcer for Sam Spade and will offer many stories of his days
at Mutual.

Sunday 2-6-05

A.  7:30 . At the top of the program Laura Leff  presents  Jack Benny. The
program of
      2-4-45 is featured.

B.  Proffessor Michael Biel Sunday Feature.  Last week Michael Biel discussed
the
the pricing and value of record collections.  Michael will present an equally
interesting
discussion this Sunday.

C.  OTR

D.  Whatever ever became of ...(Benny Rubin) ?  With Richard Lamparski .

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:27:19 -0500
From: "Joseph" <drjoewebb@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fred Allen's grave

Most of my family "lives" at Gate of Heaven, in Valhalla, NY, and it's just
north of the Cross Westchester Expressway (I-287) by one exit and on the east
side of the Sprain Brook Parkway. Fred's grave is as unassuming as one can
be. Also buried there are Jimmy Cagney, Babe Ruth, and Yankee player and
manager Billy Martin. People still visit the Ruth grave, leaving baseball
items, like cards, Yankee hats, bats, and other memorabilia. The cemetery
rules are stretched a bit for that grave and the management has always been a
bit forgiving about that. Billy's grave doesn't get the same "traffic" but
people leave things there as well. The cemetery office (closer to the Bronx
River Parkway side) has a map with various grave locations indicated. Lou
Gehrig is buried in the Kensico cemetery, just "next door" to Gate of Heaven,
but I've never had the chance to check it out. I've never seen any flowers or
a sign of visits at the Fred Allen grave.

A dear friend, sound effects man Ed Blainey, who died in 1979, is buried
there as well, in Section 2. Ed worked for ABC for many, many years,
finishing his career on TV's All My Children, and you can occasionally hear
his work on Dark Shadows reruns. His favorite was doing the opening for Terry
& the Pirates.

Regards
Joe Webb

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:55:08 -0500
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Will the real Lone Ranger please stand up?

"Number One, what is your name, please?"

"My name is John Reid, the Lone Ranger."

"Number Two, what is your name, please?"

"My name is Jon Reid, the Lone Ranger."

"Number Three, what is your name, please?"

"My name is Jahn Reid, the Lone Ranger."

"Number Four, what is your name, please?"

"My name is Lamont Cranston, the Shadow."

"Liar! I, Kent Allard, am the Shadow!"

"Gentleman, I believe you're in the wrong room. You
want room 416. This is room 418."

"Oh, sorry."

"My mistake."

"Think nothing of it. Now then, to continue, [removed]
um, Four, what is your name, please?"

"My name is Jan Reid, the Lone Ranger."

"Number Five, what is your name, please?"

"My name is Allen King, the Lone Ranger."

"Now cut that out!" (Sigh! just get it over with. Only
two more to go.) "Number Six, what is your name,
please?"

"I am not a number, I am a free man!"

"Um, yeah. I think you're in the wrong room, too. Try
room number one. [removed], then, [removed] ah, heck with
it. You, at the end, what is your name, please?"

"My name is (mumbles) Reid, the Lone Ranger."

"Will the real Lone Ranger please stand up?

"No, no, gentleman! Only _one_ of you stand up. Just
_one_!

"Ah, forget it! I'm outta here!"

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:55:36 -0500
From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  History of FM

Reader "BHOP" inquired as to a history of FM broadcasting, its initial
interest because of noise and static-free music transmission, etc.  Isn't it
interesting that these days many noisy music stations are on AM, and lots of
the radio talk-show hosts all make a big deal out of the fact that they are
on FM.  Why?  What a waste!

For information on the development of FM and for many other reasons relating
to OTR, business ethics and violations thereof, and on and on, may I warmly,
even strongly as I can, recommend that every reader here obtain a copy of the
magnificent book "Empire of the Air" by Tom Lewis, and the equally
outstanding Ken Burns documentary by the same name.  Both are available
through Internet searches, the latter now available on DVD.

RCA/NBC devotees will revile the book because of what it reveals about
General Sarnoff and how he treated Major Edwin H. Armstrong, father of FM.
CBS/Paley admirers  will hate it for the same reason.

That earlier history gives some insight into why around 1950, music lovers
were presented with the strange 33-45 RPM recording "speed war", and why for
years we all have been forced to watch a grainy, inferior system of color
television transmission.

But mostly, book and video are just magnificent, fascinating histories of a
segment of OTR History with which anyone reading this should be familiar.

Lee Munsick            That Godfrey Guy

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:26:01 -0500
From: Rentingnow@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fred Allens last residence.

In a message dated 2/4/2005 9:28:11 AM Eastern  Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:

In the last years  of Fred Allen's life, the couple lived at the Alwyn
Court Apartments at 182  W. 58th Street, a block north of Carnegie Hall,
and a short stroll from  Central Park.

Guess I'm too much into the grave thing.  For me that is the last  residence.

-As Fred said:
"LIFE"lif|[removed] lives'livz1. A biological misadventure terminated on the
shoulders of six strangers whose only objective is to make a hole in one with
you."

Larry Moore

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:53:07 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  2-5 births/deaths

February 5th births

02-05-1893 - Carlton Coon - Rochester, MN - d. 5-4-1932
bandleader: (Coon-Sanders Nighthawks) "Florsheim Frolic"
02-05-1898 - Sidney Fields - d. 9-28-1975
comic, comedy writer: "Abbott and Costello Show"; "It's Time to Smile"
02-05-1906 - John Carradine - Greenwich Village, NY - d. 11-27-1988
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-05-1918 - Tim Holt - Beverly Hills, CA - d. 2-15-1973
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-05-1919 - Red Buttons - NYC
actor: "Guest Star"; "Friar's Club Roast"
02-05-1934 - Hank Aaron - Mobile, AL
baseball legend: "Baseball: An Action History"; "Tops In Sports"

February 5th deaths

02-11-1909 - Joseph L. Mankiewicz - Wilkes-Barre, PA - d. 2-5-1993
screenwriter, film director: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-14-1905 - Thelma Ritter - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-5-1969
actress: "Aldrich Family"; "Big Town "; "McGarry and His Mouse"
04-10-1868 - George Arliss - London, England - d. 2-5-1946
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
06-10-1909 - Larry LeSueur - d. 2-5-2003
CBS news correspondent: "This Week in Europe"; "The World Today"
07-06-1905 - Pauline Drake - Denver, CO - d. 2-5-1981
actress: Bessie "Great Gildersleeve"; "Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"
11-07-1903 - Dean Jagger - Lima, OH - d. 2-5-1991
actor: "Crisis in War Town"; "Columbia Workshop"; "Cavalcade of America"
11-14-1914 - Court Benson - Vancouver, Canada - d. 2-5-1995
announcer, narrator: "Tennessee Jed"
12-01-1896 - Ethel Shutta - NYC - d. 2-5-1976
singer-comedienne: "Jack Benny Program"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:55:49 -0500
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Fred Allen's death

What time of day did Allen die?

>From my volume "The Great Radio Audience Participation Shows" (McFarland,
2001):  "While walking his dog around midnight on March 17, 1956, on New
York's West 57th Street, one block from his apartment, Fred Allen dropped
dead, the victim of a fatal heart attack.  The chair he filled on What's My
Line? would never be supplied by a permanent panelist again during the
program's 11 additional years on the air."

Bhob, who posed that question, also inquired in the same missive:

What is the history of FM programming?

Let me refer you to my text "Say Goodnight, Gracie:  The Last Years of
Network Radio" (McFarland, 2002).  For a quick education of that innovation,
there's an insightful overview offered on pages
57-58, 125-126, 157 and 183.

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:23:06 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  XXXIX
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When I checked this morning's papers today (4), I noticed that the 39th
edition of some annual big sporting event is taking place this Sunday down
in Jacksonville, Florida.

Since 39, or XXXIX in Roman form if you prefer, is such an integral number
in the Jack Benny mythos, might I suggest an alternative this Sunday for non-
sports fans: spend a couple of hours listening to OTR shows starring the man
who had "39" [removed] Kubelski from Waukegan, Illinois.

Yours in the ether,

Derek Tague

[removed]: Since a team called the "Eagles" is involved, would that make this a
Fred Allen-themed event?

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:41:45 -0500
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  More on Jack Benny and Johnny Carson

Since almost every obit of Johnny Carson has mentioned Jack Benny, I've been
refraining from forwarding them - but this one actually gets a little deeper
into what made Benny special as a performer, so I'm passing along.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

[removed]

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 20:04:45 -0500
From: kk6sj@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Addresses and Steve Allen

I noticed that Fred and Portland lived at 182 W 58th in NYC. My great uncle,
Rod Hendrickson, whom I have mentioned here before, lived on the 2nd floor at
55 W 55th in the late 40s to about 1960. That was a popular area for radio
personalities.

The Fred Allen - Steve Allen comments reminded me of listening to Steve Allen
on KNX from Los Angeles in the late 40s to early 50s. He had a late evening
show that mostly comedy/variety, and I thought much of his material was
hilarious. (I was in high school near Sacramento at the time.)
When Steve "moved up" he was replaced by Mel Baldwin who was also great in
that genre. Mel seemingly never caught on the way Steve did, at least not
outside of Southern California. Does any one know what became of Mel Baldwin
after the mid-1950s?

Cliff O.

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 20:05:20 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Forsythe Pendleton "Jughead" Jones
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Hi Gang:

It's not my inclination to upstage two of my favourite Digest post-ers, but
here goes:

Kenneth Clarke asks,

What was the real name of the character known as Jughead Jones on the
"Archie Andrews" program on OTR.

Forsythe P. Jones, as I recall.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

Well, Messrs. Clarke & Kallis, it's "Forsythe Pendleton Jones" to be
[removed]
at least in the comic books. Hal Stone has mentioned remembering scripts in
which various teachers and parents referred to his "Jughead" character by his
given name "Forsythe," but I really couldn't tell you if the "Pendleton"
middle-
name was ever used on radio.

Students?

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:48:04 -0500
From: ilamfan@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
Subject:  Cincy Convention
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Hey, with the Cincy Con coming up, might there be a few Cincinnati natives
who could suggest additional nearby cool things to see or do?  I always feel
a bit trapped at the hotel, and the whole area seems to close down about 9
pm!  I know there must be some neat spots around, right?  Not that I intend
to go clubbing until 3 am, just wondered what else is
interesting/strange/stupid/unforgettable/ridiculous/groovy in [removed]

Stephen Jansen
--
Old Time Radio never dies - it
just changes formats!

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:48:19 -0500
From: "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Character Names

Hi Folks,

I think I may be able to answer a couple of questions regarding the name of
Dan Reed's father and "Jughead's" legal names.

In the twentieth anniversary show of "The Lone Ranger", the Ranger was
telling his nephew Dan about Dan's father.  In glowing terms, he stated that
Dan's father, the ranger's brother, was "one of the finest men whoever
lived--your father--Captain Dan Reed."

There was someone who played "Jughead" before Mr. Stone, but I can't
remember who it was.  "Jughead's" legal name was Forsythe P. Jones III.  He
was always referred to as Forsythe by Mr. Weatherby, the high school
principal.

Buck Saunders

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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:14:05 -0500
From: Chargous@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  What's My Line

What's My Line was run on audio copies on AFRTS in the 50s, on 16" micro
discs, on the flip side of The Adventures of the Abbotts.  I have maybe 15
or so of both, but haven't gotten around to dubbing most of the What's My
Lines.  My micro stylus recently broke and I'm too cheap to get another one
for a while.   Suppose I should, I want to finish out the Abbotts, and
What's My Line is enjoyable too, judging from the one I listened to a while
back.  But to answer Kenneth's question, yes it was run.  These were
pressed circa 56-58 I'm guessing.  I don't know if they continued after
that, probably so.

TC

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