Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #113
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 4/11/2001 9:10 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 113
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     Re: surface noise                    [Jean-Henri Duteau <jeand@telusplane]
     Re: Magic Island                     [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
     "Magic Island"                       [Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]]
     Re:Magic Island                      [TedOTR@[removed]                     ]
     [Approved: byw6Jslq]Re:Magic Island  [TedOTR@[removed]                     ]
     #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [lois@[removed]                  ]
     Lecherous Eyes, et cetra.            ["Merill Barber" <mgbarber@[removed]]
     It's a foggy night at Old Cape [removed] ["Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed]]
     Re: WLS                              [Cnorth6311@[removed]                 ]
     Cape Cod Mystery Theater             ["Ken Kay" <kenwyn@[removed];   ]
     Re: AudioLogic boombox w/MP3         [[removed]@[removed]        ]
     CCRMT                                [John Francis MacEachern <johnfmac@m]
     Re: Magic Island                     [Jack Harris <jack@[removed]]
     Re: Cape Cod Radio Mystery Theater   [Jim Farst <jefotr@[removed];       ]
     Re: MP3 player                       [Fred Berney <berney@[removed];      ]
     Tom's Picture Request Honored        [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
     RADIO DAYS/RADIO LAND MURDERS        ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
     "Magic Island" episodes              ["Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed]]

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:10:59 -0400
    From: Jean-Henri Duteau <jeand@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: surface noise

    At 11:32 PM 4/10/01 -0400, you wrote:

>     Jean, I believe I understood exactly what Elizabeth said. You may have a
>     pristine recording (all otr started in analog) and you transfer it to a
>     digital medium it may suffer 0 degradation, but once it is handed out via
>     the net in compressed MP3, Real, or .asf files, even assuming no one has
>     tried to do any "noise reduction" on it, all bets are off, and most OTR
>     trading happens today via the net.

    But if you take your digital recording and make a compressed file, unless
    you know what you're doing, you're not making a "copy" of the recording.

    That would be akin to making an analog copy by playing on one cassette
    player out your speakers and recording on another, [removed] not reel-to-reel.

    If you compare doing a reel-to-reel copy versus a digital copy, that's
    where you suffer no degradation.  No matter how good you are, you're bound
    to get some minor degradation in any reel-to-reel copy.  But, by the nature
    of the medium, a copy of a copy of a copy of a digital file is
    degradation-free.

    And for the quality of our OTR recordings and the nature of the sound data,
    I defy anyone to detect the difference between the original and a 192kb or
    better MP3.

    Jean

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:11:01 -0400
    From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Magic Island

    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];

>     "Magic Island" was one of the many low-budget syndicated adventure
>     serials that flooded the market during the mid-1930s, This particular
>     series was produced by a company called Radio Producers Sales Company,
>     headed by one P. C. Crandall -- a company which, like a lot of
>     smalltime syndication companies, had vanished without a trace by
>     the end of the 1930s. While only 128 episodes appear to be circulating,
>     I think 130 is likely the correct number.   Elizabeth

    You hit the nail right on the head.  130 it is.  The series is listed
    with 130 15-minute episodes in the 1945 "Radio Showbook" as one of many
    series syndicated by Lou R. Winston Radio Transcriptions, 908 No.
    Western Ave, Hollywood 27, Cal.  "Adventures of Jerry and Joan on a
    magic island that appears and disappears at a scientist's command."  I
    wonder if that mad scientist ever held dressing races?

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:23:06 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Magic Island"

    Those of us who belong to "The Cinnamon Bear Brigade" have for years been
    seeking the elusive actor who  played the role of Jimmy Barton on "The
    Cinnamon Bear."  Not even Elizabeth Heisch, widow of the writer of the
    series, remembers.  Barbara Jean Wong, who played Jimmy's twin sister,
    might have been able to answer, but we didn't locate her until a few months
    after she passed away. [Wong, by the way, had a distinguished career in the
    Los Angeles public school system!]

    However, we have identified virtually all of the actors now except for
    Jimmy.  One of the last to be identified was Queen Melissa (of Maybeland).
    With the considerable help of the Gassman brothers of SPERDVAC fame, we
    have determined Rosa Barcelo to have been Queen Melissa.  Rosa Barcello
    played Joan Gregory on  "Magic Island."

    This may have been an obscure, syndicated serial, but it did help us in our
    search for Melissa.

    Now, if we can only locate Jimmy Barton.  And please don't tell me it was
    the actor who played Jerry on "Jerry of the Circus."  In our view, the
    voices simply don't match. [ I fully realize that some folks have a
    different point of view.]

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:23:04 -0400
    From: TedOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:Magic Island

>     While only 128 episodes appear to be circulating, I think 130 is likely
>     the correct number. Syndicated serials were invariably packaged and sold
>     in thirteen week cycles, or multiples of thirteen weeks. At five episodes
>     a week, two thirteen-week cycles for a six month run would amount to
>     exactly 130 episodes.

    Elizabeth is quite right about 130 episodes being done, because I have all
    130 episodes.  If anyone would like to see the plot lines for the last two
    episodes, they are listed on my web page.

    Ted Davenport
    Radio Memories
    <A HREF="[removed]">
    [removed]</A>

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:35:25 -0400
    From: TedOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [Approved: byw6Jslq]Re:Magic Island

    ls were invariably packaged and sold

>     in thirteen week cycles, or multiples of thirteen weeks. At five episodes
>     a week, two thirteen-week cycles for a six month run would amount to
>     exactly 130 episodes.

    Elizabeth is quite right about 130 episodes being done, because I have all
    130 episodes.  If anyone would like to see the plot lines for the last two
    episodes, they are listed on my web page.

    Ted Davenport
    Radio Memories
    <A HREF="[removed]">
    [removed]</A>

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:52:00 -0400
    From: lois@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over three years, same time, same channel!

    Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
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    and Me

    Lois Culver
    KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
    KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
    and widow of actor Howard Culver

    (For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:01:35 -0400
    From: "Merill Barber" <mgbarber@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lecherous Eyes, et cetra.

      I really have to say this. I am so tired of people putting modern
    standards to past events or ideas. Thank you David Pharneuf! Bless you!
      - Gloria (Old Timer) (somewhat)

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:01:37 -0400
    From: "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  It's a foggy night at Old Cape [removed]

    Cape Cod Radio Mysteries can be found at
    [removed] and thru [removed]
    I have several of Captain Underhill and his sidekick, Dr. Skofield's
    adventures, and they are GREAT!  CCRM does other things in which Capt.
    Underhill isn't involved, and they are equally as good.  I used to get a
    catalog called "Mind's Eye," but haven't gotten one in several years.
    Wonder if the company is still in [removed]

    Some more good drama/suspense and, speaking of Canada, is "The Vanishing
    Point."  I have one six-cassette collection; does anyone know where I can
    obtain more?  Some of them are adapted from some great short stories.

    Thx, Deric, for the comments on 'scariest.'

    Jimidene Murphey
    jimimark@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:01:39 -0400
    From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: WLS

    1924 - WLS-AM in Chicago IL begins radio transmissions

    Charlie

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:01:41 -0400
    From: "Ken Kay" <kenwyn@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cape Cod Mystery Theater

    I agree with RyanO about the show "Cape Cod Mystery Theater".  I have 15
    titles from this show and find them all to be really well done.  Good
    stories, acting and sound effects.  The story, "The Buoy" about a man
    strapped to a buoy in a heavy fog while the tide came in was particularly
    effective.  I, also, would like to see a log of this show and find out where
    I could get more episodes.

    Ken Kay
    Chula Vista, CA

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:01:43 -0400
    From: [removed]@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: AudioLogic boombox w/MP3

    This machine was a work of shoddy quality.  Like Dan, I took several OTR
    MP3's cd's to the store to test drive the machine before buying it.  All
    cd's were from collections I had purchased on E-Bay (Frontier Genleman, Six
    Shooter, Dragnet, etc.); none of them played on the machine.

    I picked up two cheap speakers a the local computer show and plug my
    expanium into them to serve as a "boombox".  BTW, the price on the
    AudioLogic Boombox has dropped significantly over the past few months--from
    $99 to $49, at Circuit City.

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:14:21 -0400
    From: John Francis MacEachern <johnfmac@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  CCRMT

    Hi!

    RyanO asked about the Cape Cod Radio Mystery Theater.  Most
    libraries (at least those here in Massachusetts) have most
    of the tapes.  If your local library doesn't have them, you
    can still listen to them through inter-library loan, as I
    do.

    Even better, CCRMT now has their own web site, it shows some
    behind the scenes stuff, plus more, and it also tells you
    where to purchase their recordings.

    Here's the URL:

    [removed]

    John Mac

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:14:27 -0400
    From: Jack Harris <jack@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Magic Island

    I ripped and encoded the whole series.  I also actually listened to it.  I
    cannot find anything missing.  They always say what happened last time and
    it coincides with the previous show.  If something is missing I don't know
    what it would be.  I would guess that because of the amount of days someone
    concluded that it should be 130 when if you listen to the show you will
    come to the same conclusion that I did. There are only 128
    chapters!  Chapter 128 does finalize the show leaving really nothing more.

    Jack

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:16:26 -0400
    From: Jim Farst <jefotr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Cape Cod Radio Mystery Theater

    RyanO asked "Can someone give me a history of this
    show and let me know if copies are available
    anywhere?"

    Home page is at [removed]

       ...Jim

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:16:37 -0400
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: MP3 player

    Dan,

    The AudioLogic will not handle a sampling rate of [removed] Only [removed] I think
    many of the OTR shows on the Internet are sampled at the lower rate to
    create a smaller file.

    Also, the lowest kps rate it will handle is something like 38, I don't have
    the specs right in front of me now. Again, many OTR shows are done at a
    rate of around 20 or 22.

    If you want to play the shows your downloading you may have to purchase a
    Philips unit. Not a boom box, but a very good player you use with headsets.

    At 08:29 PM 4/9/01 -0500, you wrote:

>     Fred Berney mentioned buying an AudioLogic boombox at Circuit City that
>     plays MP3s.

>     I took one of my OTR CDs to Circuit City and it wouldn't play in the
>     machine.  My guess is that the sampling rate of OTR CDs is too low to
>     work on this machine.  Fred--can you play OTR CDs on yours?  That is, CDs
>     that have over a hundred shows on them?

>     ---Dan

    Fred
    For the best in Old Time Radio Shows [removed]
    New e-commerce page [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:13:33 -0400
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Tom's Picture Request Honored

    [removed]@[removed] wrote via Tom Heathwood:

>     That was a nice picture Conrad referred us to of Virginia Payne as a very
>     young "Ma Perkins".  I imagine it came from RADIO ANNUAL or
>     a similiar publication. I'll bet Conrad could show us his too !!
>     Tom Heathwood - Heritage Radio Classics

    Tom,

    As some would say, "I thought you'd never ask."

    It never occurred to me to post my mug, but it was there among
    the others as well.  I show and attempt to explain the process
    and system at:

         [removed]

    CAB
    --
    conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
       From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
         Encino, California.

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:32:22 -0400
    From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RADIO DAYS/RADIO LAND MURDERS

       The other night I watched (for about the umpteenth time) Woody Allen's
    tribute to the Radio era, "Radio Days".  Was there anyone  that  lived
    during that time and worked in the medium during the 30's and 40's didn't
    get goosebumps and have dajavue about the era after viewing that film?  It
    sure brought back many memories to me,  Especially the scene where the young
    Lad went to the big Movie Palace and the radio show.  There were some OTR
    personalities in that film in Cameos: Dwight Weist, Jackson Beck (voice on
    radio), Kitty Callahan.   I do not know where it was filmed (I heard it was
    done in NY at the Zerotope Studios for the Radio sequences.  I also red
    somewhere that it was a Biography of Woody (The role played by Seth Green).

        That prompted me to go to my Video of Radioland Murders, a perfect
    satire - but well done - of the Era. The character played by Ned Beatty was
    a sure take-off on Sarnoff, and the writers were not far off base in last
    minute writings of scripts. The appearance of George Burns and Rosie Clooney
    were classics.  My hat goes off to George Lucas for giving - at least me - a
    look at the funny side of the radio business.

    Owens Pomeroy

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:08:34 -0400
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Magic Island" episodes

    In answer to Ian's question,

>     Not much seems to be known about the series, there is even uncertainty

    about

>     the number of episodes, I have 128 and Jerry mentions a 129 and 130, but
>     nobody else seems to know of those episodes at all.  I admit that I have
>     listened to the end of episode 128 and it doesn't seem to end the series

    and

>     it makes sense that there may have been more episodes planned but not made.

    And Elizabeth states;

>     While only 128 episodes appear to be circulating, I think 130 is likely
>     the correct number.

    	130 episode comprise the complete run and I do have all 130 episodes.
    It
    very definitely ends up with Jerry, Joan and Elaine leaving the island and
    preparing to enroll in college.

    	If you wish to find out more information on the series, you may go to
    my
    Website, The Vintage Radio Place at <[removed]>.  Go down to the "Main
    Table of Contents" and click on "Vintage Radio Logs."  Then just click on
    "Magic Island," or any of the other over 500 logs listed there to view,
    download or print out the log(s).  All programs with catalog or location
    numbers are available for purchase there also on CD, Cassette and other
    formats.

    	You may also find this series listed in my on-line CD / cassette
    catalog
    which is located at <[removed]> OTRSite On-Line Catalog.  To
    use this catalog, your browser must be Frames compliant and you should be
    running at a resolution setting of 800x600 or higher for best viewing
    (although lower resolution settings may be used).

        I hope this helps.  If you have any other questions, please feel free to
    contact me.

                Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
      Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net
      Available on CD, Cassette, Reel to Reel, DAT, VHS

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