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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 307
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Ever hear of "The Cats N'Jammers"     [ "frank mCgurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
  Inner Sanctum and CBS RMT             [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  The Simpsons War of the Worlds        [ Bryan Wright <bryan@[removed]; ]
  Re: Simpsons                          [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  11-7 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  John Brown and Elliott Lewis          [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
  Archiving on CD and DVD               [ Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed] ]
  Re: Karen Lerner                      [ "Danica L. Stein" <furrygirl@adelph ]
  radio poets                           [ Robert Angus <rangus02@[removed]; ]
  "Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Nig  [ "Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
  Christopher Glenn                     [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 18:23:09 -0500
From: "frank mCgurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Ever hear of "The Cats N'Jammers"

I hopping the vast resources and knowledge of the OTR Digest can dig up some
information on a Canadian Broadcasting Corporation program.
Are there more program available? If there was a sponsor the commercials
have been cut out.

Think the title is "The Cat N 'Jammerers" also the name of the band,. The
date I have is Sunday May 11, 1941 on CBC heard in USA over Mutual. The
Episode I have is about 25 minutes. It's fast moving musical show. The host
and The band leader is Erskin Butterfield. He Sings, Plays the piano and
talks very fast. The Charioteers and Lena Horne each do 2 numbers. The
Charioteers I assume are the same quartet that were on Bing Crosby's
programs and the only know of one Lena Horne who is referred to as gorgeous
and a new comer to The Cats N' Jammers. She does  a great job on "Georgia on
My Mind" .

The musicians are really great good HOT Jazz musicians.

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 18:58:25 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Inner Sanctum and CBS RMT

Someone wrote:

The memorable opening of the show had the creeking door which also was the
opening of Inner Santum Mysteries. Was that idea stolen from ISM?

The idea was not stolen.  Himan Brown produced and directed INNER SANCTUM
MYSTERY from 1941-1952 and family relatives of his produced the TV series
from 1953-54 for NBC-TV.  The television series was sold to NBC years later,
but Brown actually copyrighted the sound of the creaking door.  Registered
through the Library of Congress on February 17, 1949 under the name "The
Creaking Door," submitted in the form of a sample radio program.

The copyright registration was brought on when, in 1946, Warner Bros.
featured an animated short with Bugs Bunny entitled "Racketeer Rabbit."  In
the cartoon, Bugs opens a door that features a long squeek and jokes "Inner
Sanctum" in the cartoon.  Himan Brown sent a letter to executives at Warner
Bros. (letter is in the WB archives) threatening to sue them because he
owned the rights to the radio program and they never got permission to crack
the joke.  They sent a letter back telling him that there was no copyright
infringement on the grounds that the squeaking door was not copyrighted.

A couple years later, Brown copyrighted the sound of the creaking door.  The
NBC Chimes, historically, are the only other copyrighted sounds registered
through the [removed] Copyright Office.

When Brown began doing The CBS Radio Mystery Theater in 1974 (actually
production began in mid-November 1973), he featured the sound of a creaking
door since he owned the copyrights to that.

I am not aware of any other attempts to copyright sounds through the
Copyright Office, nor any other attempts to have an infringement suit filed
against someone or some entity for using the sound of any creaking door.  I
am assuming that anyone can use the sound of any creaking door, for any
radio drama, as long as they are not reproducing the very sound of the
creaking door from a recording of CBS RMT or INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY.

Martin Grams Jr.

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:08:12 -0500
From: Bryan Wright <bryan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Simpsons War of the Worlds

Hi, Stephen and all.

If you look soon, someone has posted the Simpsons "War of the Worlds"
segment on YouTube:

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Don't know ow long it will be there before Fox forces them to take it
down, but in the meantime, for those who missed it on Sunday, here's
a chance to see it. Pretty clever, I thought!

Best,
Bryan Wright

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:09:22 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Simpsons
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In a message dated 11/6/06 5:18:57 PM Central Standard Time, 
[removed]@[removed] writes:

Notwithstanding the fact that "Mercury" and "AnA" were on
different networks, "Mercury"/WOTW was on a Sunday, and AnA was broadcast
during the week.

Continuity pretty much goes out the window altogether on the Simpsons 
Treehouse of Horrors episodes and this was no exception.  I was willing to overlook 
those particular "mistakes" to laugh my head off at the show and also 
appreciate, at a time when network executives program almost exclusively to key demos, 
that someone actually mentioned an old time radio program.  Any other show 
doing this and I probably would've groused myself about not getting it right (the 
Gildersleeve thing jumped right out at me).  By the way loved the sound 
effects man gag and the in-joke involving Kane.

Dixon 

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:09:32 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-7 births/deaths

November 7th births

11-07-1868 - Royal Copeland - Dexter, MI - d. 6-17-1938
commentator: "Health Talk"; "Fleischmann Hour"
11-07-1883 - Solomon Lightfoot Michaux - Newport News, VA - d.
10-20-1968
preacher: "Elder Michaux's Happiness Church Service"
11-07-1890 - Phil Spitalny - Odessa, Russia - d. 10-11-1970
conductor: "Nestles Chocolateers"; "Blue Coal Revue"; "Hour of Charm"
11-07-1895 - Jerry Belcher - Austin, TX - d. 6-xx-1962
interviewer: "Vox Pop"; "Our Neighbors"
11-07-1897 - Herman J. Mankiewicz - NYC - d. 3-5-1953
screenwriter, producer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-07-1902 - Ed Dodd - Lafayette, GA - d. 5-27-1991
comic creator: "Mark Trail"
11-07-1903 - Dean Jagger - Lima, OH - d. 2-5-1991
actor: "Crisis in War Town"; "Columbia Workshop"; "Cavalcade of America"
11-07-1906 - Red Ingle - Toledo, OH - d. 9-7-1965
vocalist: (Spike Jones and his City Slickers) "The Spike Jones Show"
11-07-1907 - Tom Hanlon - Kansas - d. 9-29-1970
announcer: "Jane Endicott, Reporter"; "That's My Pop"; "Beulah Show"
11-07-1910 - Charles Carroll - Jackson, MI - d. 6-xx-1978
actor: "Margo of Castlewood"; "Valiant Lady"
11-07-1911 - Dick Stark - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 12-12-1986
announcer: "It Pays to be Ignorant"; "Perry Mason"; "Walter
Winchell's Jergens Journal"
11-07-1913 - Margorie Anderson - London, England - d. 12-14-1999
disc jockey: "Forces Favourites"; "Woman's Hour"; "Home for the Day"
11-07-1916 - Joe Bushkin - NYC - d. 11-3-2004
jazz pianist: "Saturday Night Swing Club"; "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"
11-07-1917 - Johnnie Stewart - Tonbridge, England - d. 4-29-2005
sound effects for BBC radio in 1930s, then became a producer
11-07-1918 - Billy Graham - Charlotte, NC
preacher: "Hour of Decision"
11-07-1922 - Al Hirt - New Orleans, LA - d. 4-27-1999
dixieland trumpeter: "Voices of Vista"; "The Navy Swings"; "Here's to
Veterans"
11-07-1926 - Joan Sutherland - Sydney, Australia
soprano: "Metropolitan Opera"

November 7th deaths

01-21-1915 - Alan Hewitt - NYC - d. 11-7-1986
actor: Ken Martinson "This is Nora Drake"; Karl Dorn "Romance of
Helen Trent"
01-21-1925 - Charles Aidman - Frankfort, IN - d. 11-7-1993
acotr: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
02-19-1902 - Eddie Peabody - Reading, MA - d. 11-7-70
banjoist: (The Banjo King) "National Barn Dance"
03-13-1892 - Janet Flanner - Indianapolis, IN - d. 11-7-1978
reporter: "Listen, The Women"
03-24-1910 - John V. Ambrose - d. 11-7-1995
sportscaster: WTAG Worcester, Massachusetts
03-30-1914 - Stu Novins - Boston, MA - d. 11-7-1989
writer: "The City"
04-13-1919 - Howard Keel - Gillespie, IL - d. 11-7-2004
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-17-1905 - John Patrick - Louisville, KY - d. 11-7-1995
writer: "Theatre Guild On the Air";"Lux Radio Theatre"
05-25-1898 - Gene Tunney - NYC - d. 11-7-1978
heavyweight boxing champion: "National Guard Show"; "The Nave is Fit
to Fight"
08-15-1903 - Jerry Cady - d. 11-7-1948
writer: "Major Hoople"
08-18-1879 - Gus Edwards - Hohensaliza, Germany - d. 11-7-1945
songwriter: "Thirty Minutes In Hollywood"
09-16-1927 - Jack Kelly - Astoria, NY - d. 11-7-1992
actor: "Suspense"
09-20-1918 - Peg Phillips - Everett, WA - d. 11-7-2002
actor: "Studio One"; "The Big Show"
10-10-1911 - George Mathews - NYC - d. 11-7-1984
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
10-11-1884 - Eleanor Roosevelt - NYC - d. 11-7-1962
commentator: "Eleanor Roosevelt Chats/It's a Woman's World/Talks by
Eleanor Roosevelt"
10-16-1900 - Lloyd Corrigan - San Francisco, CA - d. 11-7-1969
actor: Judge Hunter "One Man's Family"
10-21-1905 - Carleton Young - NYC - d. 11-7-1994
actor: Dick Grosvenor "Stella Dallas"; Ellery Queen "Advs of Ellery
Queen"
11-05-1885 - Will Durant - North Adams, MA - d. 11-7-1981
historian: "America's Town Meeting of the Air"
12-11-1883 - Victor McLaglen - Tunbridge Wells, England - d. 11-7-1959
actor: Captain Flagg "Captain Flagg and Sergeant Quirt"; Mountie Eric
Lewis "Red Trails"
12-14-1915 - Jerry Daniels - d. 11-7-1995
singer: (Member of the Ink Spots) "The Four Ink Spots"; "Let's Go
Nightclubbing"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:28:17 -0500
From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  John Brown and Elliott Lewis

  Elliott Lewis who was involved with 937 OTR shows according to
[removed] and John Brown with 646 shows listed had to be two of the
most often used actors in old time radio. Know the list at
[removed] is not complete since it lists only shows they have in
their database.
  John Brown was in very many OTR shows as a star or featured supporting
actor. Would be interesting to know how many different shows he was in. Know
he was in Ozzie and Harriet, Life of Riley, My Friend Irma but know there
are many more.
  What I am interested in knowing is what other OTR actors were in more
shows than either of these two men but not counting major stars like Jack
Benny or Bob Hope.
  Also would like to know if there was ever anyone in OTR with a voice that
was as easy to detect as Herb Vigran. That is one voice that I recognize
instantly and can't say that about any other actor in old time radio other
than the major stars.
  Andrew Godfrey

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:29:52 -0500
From: Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Archiving on CD and DVD
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Hi Folks.
  An interesting article can be found on the net about archiving on CD and DVD.
  Best way to find it is just to search for ' Memory of the World by Kevin
Bradley ' and it should take you straight to it.
  Cheers !  Graeme Stevenson - Tune into Yesterday newsletter - UK

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:30:29 -0500
From: "Danica L. Stein" <furrygirl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Karen Lerner

I read Rick Keating's applause for Ms. Lerner. I am thrilled to hear
that proper customer service has returned to RS. I gave up on them a
while back, during the Carl Amari years, because their customer service
was so dismal. I once called because I had purchased a cassette set,
then realized I already had most of the tapes in the set. I hadn't
played the RS tapes, but I had opened the packaging. When I called
their customer service, I was told flat-out that they would NOT accept
a return under the circumstances. I said I would be happy with an
exchange or store credit, but I was told NO, since the package was
opened they would NOT take the tapes back.  I remember relating the
story on this very list, and Mr. Amari himself read my post and emailed
me saying that if he had known about this at the time, he would have
fired the customer service rep on the spot. OOOOhhh! No offer to
replace the tapes with something else, no invitation to return the
tapes, no acknowledgment that perhaps better training is needed in the
customer-service department. I was not impressed, to say the least. I
was a regular customer, but after that I never bought anything from
them again.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear that the RS experience has improved for those
of you who continued to patronize them.

Danica

Danica L. Stein
Poultney, VT
furrygirl@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:33:03 -0500
From: Robert Angus <rangus02@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  radio poets

In the early 1950s, Bob & Ray had a screamingly funny bit called Charles
the Poet, a second-rate boozy down-home rhymster.  I can remember
hearing some of these when I was barely out of diapers---accompanied by
a Hammond organ, in a 15-minute spot often in late morning or somewhere
among the afternoon soaps.  One such was Bud Rainey, who worked WTIC in
Hartford, Conn. in 1939-1941.  Does anybody know where Rainey came from
or where he went after the WTIC gig?  Was this a southern New England
phenomenon, or were such poets common throughout daytime radio?  What
kind of ratings did they get?

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:34:02 -0500
From: "Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Night Stand
 with the Big Bands"

The latest "Golden Age of Radio" programs with Dick Bertel
and Ed Corcoran, and "A One Night Stand with the Big Bands"
with Arnold Dean can be heard at [removed].

Each week we feature three complete shows in MP3 format
for your listening pleasure or for downloading; two "Golden
Age of Radios" and one "One Night Stand." We present new
shows every week or so. The current three programs will be
available on line at least until the morning of November 14, 2006.

Program 8: November, 1970 - William Spier and June Havoc

William Spier was closely identified with two programs; Sam
Spade, and Suspense.

One of the premier programs of the Golden Age of Radio,
Suspense advertised itself as "radio's outstanding theater of
thrills." The program began in 1942 under the supervision of
our guest, William Spier, who is the director most associated
with "Suspense" in the minds of modern-day enthusiasts.
It was Spier who established the basic ground rule for the
series; tightly written thriller stories based not on boogeymen
but on plausible real-life situations. Spier's "Suspense" tends
to revolve around ordinary people caught up in circumstances
beyond their control. Spier's casts were usually headed by
name stars -- backed by a solid stock company of experienced
radio actors.

Spier's wife, June Havoc, began playing bits in silent film
shorts at age two, appearing in 24 Hal Roach comedies. She
was earning $1500 a week as a vaudeville headliner by the
time she was five. In 1944 she won a Donaldson Award for
Mexican Hayride; she also did much work on TV. She wrote
and directed the autobiographical Broadway play Marathon
33 (1963), and authored an autobiography, Early Havoc (1959).
She was portrayed as a juvenile stage performer in the Broadway
show Gypsy and its screen version.  ~ All Movie Guide

Notes from Ms. Havoc's personal assistant, Tana Sibilio, 11/5/06:

"During one crime melodrama on Sam Spade, perhaps, a sound
effect gunshot went off too close to Miss Havoc and actually set
her skirt on fire! Trouper that she was, she kept calmly reading
her script--of course the show was going out live (although likely
being transcribed for later broadcast to the "other" coast) while
the control booth went nuts and the props guy threw some water
on her. If Bill Spier hadn't been in love with her already, her
sang-froid  while literally on fire, let alone under it, would have
sealed the deal! And Miss Havoc says that's what won her
admission in the special cadre of radio actors." Incidentally,
Ms. Havoc's birthday is this week - November 8.

Program 9 - December, 1970 - Richard Dana

Richard Dana had a long radio career as a free lance writer and
was also a broadcast program supervisor at Young and Rubicam.
Mr. Dana recalls his collaboration with Philips H. Lord, and
"Gangbusters." We'll also hear excerpts from "We the People,"
 "Your Hit Parade," and "Exploring the Unknown."

"A One Night Stand with the Big Bands" With Arnold Dean

Program 7 - Pearl Harbor - December 7, 1971

Arnold Dean commemorates the 30th Anniversary of Pearl
Harbor with music of the time.

In the 1970's WTIC decided that there was a market in
the evening for long-form shows that could be packaged
and sold to sponsors. Two of those shows were "The
Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Night Stand with the
Big Bands."

Dick Bertel had interviewed radio collector-historian
Ed Corcoran several times on his radio and TV shows,
and thought a regular monthly show featuring interviews
with actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians
from radio's early days might be interesting. "The Golden
Age of Radio" was first broadcast in April, 1970; Ed was
Dick's co-host. It lasted seven years. "The Golden Age
of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights on Walden
Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

Arnold Dean began his love affair with the big band
era in his pre-teen years and his decision to study
the clarinet was inspired by the style of Artie Shaw.
When he joined WTIC in 1965 he hosted a daily program
of big band music. In 1971, encouraged by the success
of his daily program and "The Golden Age of Radio"
series, he began monthly shows featuring interviews
with the band leaders, sidemen, agents, jazz reporters,
etc. who made major contributions to one of the great
eras of music history.

Bob Scherago
Webmaster

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:24:17 -0500
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Christopher Glenn

Not sure that I saw a death notice on this forum for Christopher Glenn, the
CBS newsman, and if it was posted I apologize for recalling it to our
attention.

Glenn died Oct. 17 in Norwalk, Conn. at 68, having retired from a 35-year
career with CBS earlier this year.  He was to be inducted into the Radio
Hall of Fame in Chicago during the week he died.  He anchored the network's
coverage during the Challenger space shuttle explosion in 1986 and was the
voice of more than 5,000 celebrated two-and-a-half-minute segments every
half-hour during weekend children's programming on CBS-TV called "In the
News" between 1971-84.  He was a floor reporter during the national
political conventions and became the anchor of CBS Radio's "World News
Roundup" in 1999, one of the last vestiges of OTR, after spending 11 years
in the same capacity with another OTR-CBS legend, "The World Tonight."  He
won the Edward R. Murrow award for best newscast in 2005 given by the
Radio-Television News Directors Association.  Born in NYC and raised in
Irvington, N. Y., Glenn held a BA in English from the University of Colorado
at Boulder.  He was survived by wife Dianne, two daughters and a sister.

Jim Cox

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