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Date: 10/17/2002 3:56 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 406
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Friends of Old Time Radio in WSJ      [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
  Will pay $ for a favor                [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  great writers on otr                  [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
  Warner Bros Ownership                 [ pamwarren2002@[removed] ]
  Re: dubs of 4-track r to r            [ "Matthew Bullis" <MatthewBullis@run ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  More on KFWB                          [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  [removed]                        [ W4CU@[removed] ]
  Re: Roy Glenn                         [ "lizmcl@[removed]" <liz@cybercas ]
  Godfrey Talent redux                  [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
  [removed]                              [ "ASTON" <aston@[removed]; ]

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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:36:53 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Friends of Old Time Radio in WSJ

I have it on good authority that the Thursday, October 17 issue of The Wall
Street Journal will have a promotional brief on the Friends of Old Time Radio
Convention, to be held at the Holiday Inn North in Newark, [removed] October
24-27, in its Time-Outs and Diversions column.

I'm not aware that the paper has ever covered FOTR before.  Another success
for public relations.  Perhaps we'll pick up a corporate [removed]

The WSJ's content is for subscribers only, so make sure you pick up a copy.

Sean Dougherty
Kubelski@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:41:03 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Will pay $ for a favor

I have just received bad news this afternoon, it seems that a library that
originally planned to do some photocopying for me on a copy machine has just
changed their format.

Seems I caught them at a bad time when their staff is down, and in order for
them to perform my request, they will have to add a three-digit figure to my
total to accomodate and even then, cannot guarentee having the job done
before the end of the year - which I can't understand why as it would take
me a couple hours to copy what is needed.

So I'm checking to see if anyone on this digest wants the rare opportunity
of copying the material for me, and I will reimburse them the copy fees and
for their time.  (Not only will this serve as a solution to having the
material sooner, but maybe save me money at the same time - have to keep the
costs down, you know.)

The material is VERY much Old Time Radio related, in fact, it's various
pages of mail correspondence from radio writers and directors, unscripted
plot summaries, cover sheets to radio scripts of radio shows that don't
exist, and so on.

The two libraries (yes, I'm having trouble with TWO libraries) is:
Thousand Oaks Library in Thousand Oaks, California
and
Cecil H. Green Library at Stanford University at Stanford, California

I will pay for copy fees and reimburse for you time and trouble.  If anyone
lives within driving distance and knows they have free time to drive over
and copy what I need (I can contact the libarrian and tell them to expect
you so it will be very easy).

Martin Grams, Jr.

[removed]  Whoever takes on the job will get the pleasure of viewing and reading
material you'll find VERY fascinating.  Won't be a waste of time, and it
won't be boring, either.

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:41:12 -0400
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  great writers on otr

Hello all:
I have been waiting for this thread to pop up.  I've always felt that a
show's best cornerstone is it's writer.  Here are a few good examples.
Please forgive the misspellings.

Les Crutchfield-  He did most of the great dramatic shows from Hollywood.
He dramatized many famous stories for the early Escape shows, wrote for
Gunsmoke in it's later years, and he was a major writer for the five-part
Johnny Dollar series.  You can hear his name credited somewhere in almost
every major dramatic show, including The Whistler, Suspense, Romance,
Richard Diamond and The Man Called X.  Norman McDonnell and Jack Johnstone
both described him as charming, funny and prolific, if undependable at
times.

E. Jack Newman-  He often wrote for Nightbeat, Escape, Suspense, Phillip
Marlo and Sam Spade.  He wrote under the name of John Daweson for the
five-part YTJD shows.  His scripts often had a moral theme and his
characters were often complex.

James E. Mosier-  This was the first major writer for Dragnet from 1949
through 1951.  I believe he won the Edgar Allen Poe award for his writing at
one point.  I prefer his style to his successor, Jack Robinson, who wrote
for the second half of the series.

Stanley Niss-  He dramatized cases for Gangbusters from the mid to late
1940's.  When he wrote the scripts, the criminals took on more of a human
quality, although they were still the bad guys.

John Meston-  He basically built the Gunsmoke stories with his own hands.
He was the story editor for the first year, then took over complete writing
for the next four years or so.  If not for him, the series would not have
lasted nearly as long as it did.

Lucile Fletcher-  She is best known for her work on Suspense, penning such
greats as, "Sorry, Wrong Number," "The Hitch-hiker," and "The Diary of
Sufronia Winters."  She is a master of the twist ending.

Ernest Kinoy and George Lefferts-  These two men were the main writers for
Dimension X. and X. Minus One.  They adapted all of the stories from other
writers and wrote some of their own originals.
RyanO

"Walking Alone and Marching Together."

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:41:59 -0400
From: pamwarren2002@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Warner Bros Ownership

Dear Elizabeth and Others Who Are Helping
on This Warner Bros. Thing,

    I usually just read OTR Digest but the Warner Bros stations conversation
has peaked my interest!
In my search and research for the L. Ron Hubbard
1951 radio broadcasts I found a station in
Petaluma California owned by "Warner Bros."
in 1951 and 1952.

    These "Warner Bros." are named Stafford W.
Warner and Eugene Warner. They also owned a
station in Oakland, California. Are these the
same WB Warner Bros?

    My question is who did the Warner Bros.
buy KAFP in Petaluma from and who did they
sell it to? Anybody here got more data on this?
I am still looking for the L. Ron Hubbard
broadcast recordings and somebody that worked
at KAFP in 1951 says that station aired them.

Pam Warren
L. Ron Hubbard's Public Relations Office

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:42:16 -0400
From: "Matthew Bullis" <MatthewBullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: dubs of 4-track r to r

Hello, try
[removed]
They handle not only what their name suggests but 8-track tapes, 16-inch
transcriptions, and many more formats. They will do this for your personal
use, so they won't keep the things you send them. I don't know about how
good the work is, because I put my lp's on my hard drive if I need to. But,
hopefully these people will be able to help.
Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:42:23 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

>From Those Were The Days --

1919 - The Radio Corporation of America (RCA) was formed. The company
became a giant in electronics, especially radios and TVs. It would later
own its own TV network (NBC) and other broadcast interests.

1938 - This was a big day in Tinseltown. NBC moved to the corner of
Sunset and Vine, the 'Crossroads of the World'. The new Hollywood Radio
City drew thousands of visitors ready to fill studio-audience seats for
popular radio programs.

  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:43:03 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  More on KFWB

KFWB was bought in 1950 by Crowell-Collier Broadcasting, which turned it
into a Top 40 station in the late fifties, and was sold to Westinghouse
in 1966, assuming its all-news format in 1968.
KFWB was the only station Warners ever owned.
Elizabeth

Westinghouse was bought CBS in the 1990's, and changed the company's name
to CBS Inc. Through a bunch of corporate "strategic partnerships" KFWB is
now owned by CBS & Infinity & (somebody else). KNX Radio, the OTHER
all-news station in Los Angeles, is also now controlled by Infinity; lord
knows what corporate groups own them on paper.
KFWB broadcasts "news updates" from CNN; KNX simulcasts CBS '60 Minutes' &
'60 Minutes II' TV broadcasts. Neither station now claims to be better than
its all-news competitor in its advertisements, since they're both in the
same corporate family.

Herb Harrison

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:47:39 -0400
From: W4CU@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
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What with all the names being linked to Arthur Godfrey, nobody seems to
recognize his long-time partner (?) Jeanette Davis.  John Reinke

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:48:46 -0400
From: "lizmcl@[removed]" <liz@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Roy Glenn

On 10/16/02 10:41 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

Glenn was busy in motion pictures and television, as well as radio.  He
was a member
of both the radio and TV "stock companies" of Amos & Andy, and was in at
least 43
movies (per IMDB).  I'm confident that our Elizabeth can tell us more of
Mr. Glenn's
career.

I've not been able to track down a lot of biographical data on Glenn
other than that he was born in Kansas, and was in Hollywood doing bit
movie roles by the late 1930s. His earliest major radio role that I've
encountered was a bit part in the CBS docudrama "An Open Letter on Race
Hatred," produced by William N. Robson in the wake of the Detroit race
riots of 1943.

Glenn joined the supporting cast of the half-hour "Amos 'n' Andy Show"
during the 1947-48 season, and was a semi-regular for the rest of the
program's run. He appeared in dozens of roles with A&A over the next
eight years, usually as hardline authority figures -- business
executives, detectives, FBI agents, judges, girlfriends' fathers, and the
like. He occasionally played dialect parts, but most often his characters
spoke deep, resonant Standard English. These sorts of roles continued in
the A&A TV series, which allowed him to display one of the most withering
glowers ever featured on screen.

A&A was Glenn's passport to many other radio roles -- during the 1950s,
he was an extremely busy actor at CBS, appearing in everything from Jack
Benny to Johnny Dollar. One of his most interesting parts in this era is
in an offbeat 1952 "Suspense" episode called "The Wreck of the Old 97,"
which I highly recommend.

Glenn also made some very fine movies -- his best roles were as "Rum" in
the 1954 production of "Carmen Jones," and as the short-tempered
postal-worker father of Sidney Poitier in "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner."
He was also very busy in television during the 1950s and 1960s -- one of
the few African-American actors to work regularly in TV during this
period. Perhaps his most familiar TV work from this period are his
appearances in the late-sixties version of "Dragnet."

I've heard that Glenn was the voice of Kelloggs' "Tony the Tiger" before
the role
went to Thurl Ravenscroft.  Does anyone known whether this is T or F ?

There are those who swear this is true, and there are those who insist
that Ravenscroft has always played the part. Glenn *did* have the right
voice for the part -- but unless someone can produce documentation to
prove it, it's a story that remains unverified.

Elizabeth

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:49:15 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Godfrey Talent redux

Thanks to Michael Berger for his posting on the performing talents on the
Arthur Godfrey programs at the turn of the last century (geez, that makes
me feel old!)  Michael did very well.  Spelled Haleloke correctly, although
he and everyone else neither recalls nor mentions her last name,
Kahaoluopua.  I can't understand why.

Carmel (with an L) Quinn was as Mike says, Irish, not Spanish.  I
understand his use of "African-American" for the Mariners, but suspect most
folk would think that meant all four were Negroes (terminology of the
time).  For those who don't personally recall, this was a group originally
gathered in the Coast Guard, which gave them a link to former USCG enlisted
man Arthur Godfrey.  Over the years there were several replacements in the
quartet, as one or the other left.   One became an ordained missionary
minister, who retired a few years back.  But the identification of the four
always remained two black men,  two [removed] of an Oreo with a
double-dip hanger-on.  And all very talented, very nice guys.  They sold a
lot of records over the years, including a lot of Gospel songs.

But your point is very well taken, Michael!  It was a large group of
talents, which exceeded in number any other program including Steve Allen's
remarkable gang.  I'd guess that the Godfrey group, Steverino's zany crew
and the pleasant group on Don McNeill's Breakfast Club combined could have
started their own network, except that they were spread out over three!

All those "little Godfreys" did add up, and there were guest stars on
occasion as well.  By the way, Mr. Godfrey did not like to be called
"Art".  He abhorred the term "Little Godfreys", thought it distinctly
disrespectful and insulting to these talented folk.  It was laid on the
media by CBS flacks, and stuck.

Just as did "The Old Redhead", which Mr. Godfrey also detested, although
I've never been able to discern exactly why.  It wasn't the "Old".  He was
used to the Navy term "Old Man" for the CO, and I think he even relished
being fondly and respectfully called that by "his kids".  He didn't
especially object to "Redhead".  He had been a true carrot-top as a
youngster, which grew into a handsome head of auburn hair in
adulthood.  But somehow the two words together deeply annoyed and offended him!

Even with Mr. Berger's listing of the Godfrey crew at the height of their
shows, he didn't catch them all.   He did recall Haleloke, Frank Parker,
Marion Marlowe, Carmel Quinn, The Mariners, The McGuire Sisters, and The
Chordettes, an outstanding and award-winning female barber shop quartet
from the national "Sweet Adelines" organization.  Their "Dutchey" way of
speaking gave rise to their hit record "Dance Me Loose".  This was composed
by the orchestra's organist and resident composer Lee Erwin, at the
suggestion of Mr. Godfrey.  Lee went on to become world-famous theatre
organist, traveling extensively for years until his passing about two years
ago.

We OTR fans should not forget veteran announcer and walking encyclopedia
Tony Marvin.  George Brian usually did the honors on the "Talent Scouts"
show, occasionally on the others when Tony was on hiatus.  And all those
incredible musicians, every one of whom had an enviable musical
history.  The band included arranger, big band sideman, composer, etc.  It
is little known that in addition to outstanding arrangements by leader
Archie Bleyer, orchestral workups were provided by a substantial group of
publicly anonymous but highly gifted and respected arrangers, among them
Neal Hefti.

Back to the performers:  late in that period there was Pat Boone, and still
later Johnny Nash.  We should recall cute girl singer Lu Ann Sims.  Sultry
gal Janette Davis.  Early on in that period, there was the boy singer Bill
Lawrence (still doing cruise ship entertainment from Florida).  He was
drafted by Uncle Sam, and his place taken [removed], let me [removed] yes, I
think his name was Julius something.  But then most people don't recall
anything about him.  Cough.

No disrespect intended in any of [removed] a little humor to relieve the
unbearable tension.

All the best to all you fellow Memory Trippers!   Lee Munsick from the
drought belt in southern Virginia.

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:49:41 -0400
From: "ASTON" <aston@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  [removed]
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Several have been asking and some replying as to the title of the last Yours
Truly, Johnny Dollar Episode  The Title of the last Episode broadcast
Septemebr 30, 1962 is "The Tip-Off Matter"  This is the name that appears on
the script.  I did the research for a Johnny Dollar Log several years ago
using CBS scripts and the Thousand Oaks Library script collection

The second question about Johnny Dollar referred to the Date Secember 24, 1961
This would be the 27th broadcast of [removed] with Mandel Kramer as Johnny
Dollar.  The show was pre-empted by the Bing Crosby Christmas Special.  As far
as I have been able to find out, the Johnny Dollar epsiode that would been
scheduled for that date was broadcast later, most likely the following week.

Don Aston
avpro@[removed]

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