Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #301
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/5/2003 10:21 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 301
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Shep's Benny Tribute                  [ "Nicholas Kierniesky" <kierniesky@s ]
  Re: Movies about Atwater Kent and Ge  [ "Jan Willis" <jlwillis@[removed]; ]
  Zimbalists & Yugos                    [ art-funk@[removed] ]
  iRiver 150 cd/MP3 player              [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  Jack vs Bob                           [ "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet. ]
  Paper Moon                            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  phonographs working into sound cards  [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  RCA Victorola                         [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Jughead's real first name - question  [ Dwane Harney <toys413@[removed]; ]
  Re: Overseas News Transmissions.      [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  zero hour                             [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
  Mr. Kitzel                            [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Ad-libbing                            [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Unidentified subject!                 [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Hope vs. Benny                        [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:00:27 -0400
From: "Nicholas Kierniesky" <kierniesky@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Shep's Benny Tribute
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A Jean Shepherd tribute to Jack Benny was played last week by Max Schmid
at

[removed].

He devotes most of the show to Benny's comedy, and a childhood anecdote
about a live

Benny tour in Chicago.   Shepherd also makes a brief comment about Hope.

Benny and Shepherd are my two radio favorites, so hearing this again was
a

real treat!

-Nik Kierniesky

Gettysburg

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:31:16 -0400
From: "Jan Willis" <jlwillis@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Movies about Atwater Kent and George
 Seldes

Michael Biel noted:
I've never heard of this 1941 movie, but Fox Movie Channel is airing "The
Great American Broadcast" on Tuesday Aug 5 at 4 PM with a repeat on
Wednesday Aug 6 at 6 AM.  Time Out New York describes it as a largely
fictional musical inspired by the life of Atwater Kent, tracing the
evolution of radio as a form of early 20th Century entertainment.

  Here's a bit more about its plot, Michael, courtesy of
AMG, the All Movie Guide, a nice alternative to the IMDb.

[removed];sql=A20569

and two interesting IMBd users' comments at:
[removed]

Jan Willis, who'll watch the Nicholas Bros. in just about anything!

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:41:27 -0400
From: art-funk@[removed]
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Zimbalists & Yugos

Re Zimbalists
In Digest 299 someone mentioned that Efrem Jr. makes appearances on the
religious cable channel TBN.  It reminded me of my late father-in-law who
would not discuss his religious views with anyone.  When asked his religious
affiliation he would say "I'm a Zimbalist."  and if pressed would follow up
with "I belong to the Efrem sect which is really not very well known."

Re Yugos
Don't knock 'em.  At 4 grand they were great bargains.  I drove mine for 6
years and might still be driving it if not for Hurricane Andrew blowing the
house down on it and the scarcity of replacement parts due to the civil war
in Yugoslavia.  I owned, at different times, a Beetle and a Yugo.  The Yugo
was almost as good as the Beetle though I must say, to make this OTR
related, the Blauplunkt radio in the VW was superior.

Art Funk
Art's Militaria
MacDill AFB Exchange
(813)840-9606
[removed]

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:56:56 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  iRiver 150 cd/MP3 player

To those of you who use portable cd players for
listening to OTR on MP3: [removed] has just slashed
the price of the iRiver 150. It's now a staggering
$[removed], which includes free shipping. I own this unit,
and use it every day--it has true resume, and will
even pick up where it left off for the last 4 or 5 cds
you've played. I bought a second unit from Amazon a
few weeks ago, as a backup in case mine ever
breaks/gets stolen. Unfortunately, I paid twenty bucks
more than they're selling them for now. [removed] and
other sites no longer sell this item, and I suspect
Amazon is trying to eliminate their stock because it's
no longer being made. I have no personal stake in
iRiver--but if you've been meaning to buy a great mp3
player for OTR, this is probably the best price you'll
see for a while.

[removed];s=electronics&n=507846

Kermyt

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:39:30 -0400
From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jack vs Bob

If one could draw a "family tree" of comedy Bob and Fred Allen would be at
the root of that now contains the Leno's and the Letterman's, while Jack's
efforts would blossom into Seinfeld, while Burns and Allen, Lucy and the
Jordans would anchor the modern "sitcom."

The topical humorist seems to wane quickly. Have you ever heard any of
Johnny Carson's old monologues from "The Tonight Show"? Most are really
dreadfully dull today. Satire on cuurent events is lost once the outcome of
a historical event is [removed]

Brj

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:52:47 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Paper Moon

For any interested parties:
Peter Bogdanovich's PAPER MOON (1973) is scheduled for release on DVD format
on August 12.  One of Bogdanovich's better films, it's the story of Moses
Pray, a con artist who takes on a little daughter who helps him with his
cons.  Set during the 1930s, Tatum O'Neal plays co-star as the six-year-old
with a fascination for a particular radio program heard weekly.  She even
takes the radio with her as they move from town to town so she won't miss
her favorite program.
The DVD is supposed to feature commentary from producer/director Bogdanovich
so I'm sure he'll be commenting about the use of the vintage radio
broadcasts featured.

It's worth renting from your local library or video store if they get it.
(Bogdanovich's TARGETS is also scheduled for release the same day - also
recommended - one of Boris Karloff's last films.  I saw it years ago and
although it doesn't pack as much of a punch as today's films like PHONE
BOOTH, it's still a good sniper-on-the-loose movie.)
Martin

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:10:00 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  phonographs working into sound cards

Sometime a while back, someone posted a link to a phonograph player
available at [removed] that had a phono jack you could hook up to your
computer for the purpose of transferring vinyl records to CD's.

A computer sound card should accept any 'line level' signal.  This is a very
low-current signal that peaks at something like one volt.  You can get it
directly out of a ceramic phonograph cartridge or from a phonograph
preamplifier.  Or from the 'tape' output of a stereo receiver.

I suspect, therefore, that your present phonograph arrangement will work
just fine with a computer as it is.  I imagine that it would be helpful to
arrange things such that you can adjust the signal level to the sound card,
though it should be perfectly possible to run a phonograph with a ceramic
cartridge directly into the sound card inputs.  Try it and see.

Clean your records well, put a new stylus into the cartridge if it's a
ceramic (magnetic cartridges are far superior) and, as I try to warn
everyone at least once a year, remove 78 rpm records from those ancient
albums with the flip-over 'pages.'

Mark Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
[removed]~mkinsler1

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:10:30 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RCA Victorola

A friend of mine down the road from my house is "cleaning house" and to my
astonishment she owns an original RCA Victorola.  She's getting rid of it
and I offered to take it off her hands.  She's offered $[removed]  I know it's
worth more than that but I would LOVE to have some feedback.  How much could
it be worth?
I don't have the actual year of when it was made but I will after I purchase
it.
The RCA is an original, not a reproduction.
It includes the table stand with doors that open to reveal original
phonograph records.
If I recall correctly, it takes a crank to start it up, and it still works.
it's in wonderful condition.
I am curious about the value, how much one goes for - haven't decided if I
want to add it to the clutter in my house or resell it - I guess it depends
on the demand.  If it's worth something but not a large amount I'll keep it
as decoration.
Any RCA Victorola experts . . . help!
Martin

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:12:00 -0400
From: Dwane Harney <toys413@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jughead's real first name - question on Who
 Wants to Be a Millionaire

Today I was watching a rerun of the February 17, 2003
episode of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. The $125,000
question was:
In the "Archie" comic book series, what is Jughead's
real first name?

A. Cedric
B. Forsythe
C. Maxwell
D. Joffrey

The answer was "B. Forsythe"

Hal Stone spells it "Forsyth". I can't remember how
they spelled it on the millionaire game. I got
"Forsythe" from a webpage with the game's transcript:
[removed]

Because I'm an OTR fan, I knew the answer. The
contestant walked away with $64,000. Too bad she
hadn't read the OTR Digest last year when this was
mentioned here.

Here's what Hal Stone said in Digest Volume 2002 :
Issue 290 (July 28, 2002) about the middle initial:

Yes Derek, It most definitely was Forsyth [removed]
(No wonder he preferred being called Jughead). But
don't ask we what the initial P. stands for.
That's probably as big a mystery as what the large
letter "S" stands for on his turtleneck sweater.
(Archie Comics still refuses to divulge that bit
of trivia).

Since I only found one place that says this, I kind of
doubt it's true, but the following link says Jughead's
full name is "Forsythe Percival Jones".

[removed]

Dwane

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 21:32:01 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Overseas News Transmissions.

Elizabeth wrote:

It was actually a lot less complicated than this -- in fact, the entire
process was strictly  regimented and carefully controlled by the military
authorities.

Of course, this was not always the case. When the Allies invaded Algeria
they captured some broadcast facilities which were provided for use to the
press as well as the military. Admiral Jean Darlan of the Vichy government
and considered to be a Nazi puppet was designated commissioner in North
Africa by the Allies over the Free French forces. Darlan was soon
assassinated by another Frenchman and reporters upon getting the news went
to the transmitter and reported without first waiting for New York to be
ready to pick them up. It was all a crap shoot in which they hoped they
would be heard, but uncertain if they were. There were no pre-arranged
times and New York (NBC and CBS) had no way of communicating with the
reporters first.

It was at these moments that radio was able to shine as far as the
reporting was concerned. Granted they might not have always been heard, but
the very fact of scrambling to get the story and report it with limited
censorship and with breathtaking speed was what made broadcast news
reporting truly innovative.

Jim Widner
jwidner@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 00:21:39 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  zero hour

Does anybody have on MP3 as complete a group of shows as possible of Zero
Hour from the 70s?  And, by any chance, are they in stereo.  Please write
me off list and let me know.  I am most interested in MP3 because they
are less expensive, and most of all, the most portable.  Thank you.  Kurt

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:13:19 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mr. Kitzel

Spike Jones was criticized for his record parody of "Tennessee Waltz,"
featuring Sara Berner and Earl Bennett with Yiddish accents (the latter
doing his usual imitation of the Benny show's Mt. Kitzel).

I didn't know Mr. Kitzel had a mountain named after him?  Where is Mt.
Kitzel?  ;->

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:13:43 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ad-libbing

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:52:23 -0400
From: PFornatar@[removed]

      As for ad-libbing, neither man is a master. Milton Berle wore that
      hat

Not Groucho Marx?

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:13:52 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 

 From Those Were The Days --

1921 - KDKA in Pittsburgh, PA did the first play-by-play broadcast of a
baseball game. Harold Arlin described the action as the Pirates beat
Philadelphia 8-5.

1935 - Backstage Wife was first aired, on MBS.

Joe

--
Visit my homepage:  [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:14:33 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hope vs. Benny

Chris Chandler writes:

Who was more influential?  Who left bigger footprints?
And perhaps just as importantly, just a couple months
after we watched clueless entertainment writers
celebrate The Big 100 by crediting Bob with many of
Jack's innovations--once the Hope Death Hoopla dies
down, who will be better remembered in future times?

I read one of George Burns's books (the title of which I don't remember)
wherein he lavishes praise on his friend Jack Benny for both his personal
and professional qualities. I don't remember Burns talking about Bob Hope
in the book.
Hope and Burns both were vaudeville/radio/film/TV veterans who lived to the
age of 100. Does anybody know if George Burns commented on Bob Hope's talents?

Just curious,
Herb Harrison

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