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Date: 7/21/2006 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 197
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Jack Webb's Casts                     [ "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed] ]
      "Please squeeze the juice out of a f  [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Art Gilmore                           [ William Brooks <webiii@[removed]; ]
      Corwin Short                          [ mmartini@[removed] ]
      Re: Art Gilmore                       [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
      Radio Actors on TV                    [ "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed] ]
      The Comedy Show                       [ mikennancy2001@[removed] ]
      [removed] Lou Lauria                  [ "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed] ]
      Re:Art Gilmore now Jack Webb          [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Dealer Room Expanded                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      7-21 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      A bit of Canadiana                    [ "theharness" <theharness@[removed] ]
      A bit of Canadiana                    [ "theharness" <theharness@[removed] ]
      YTJD pre-empted shows                 [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:07:39 -0400
    From: "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jack Webb's Casts

    Andy Blatt notices that Jack Webb uses certain radio actors in his TV shows
    who have been heard often on his radio shows.  Yes, Jack had a group of
    actors who worked successfully for him, so he, wisely, used them whenever
    possible.  These included Howard Culver, Virginia Gregg, Harry Bartell and
    others noted by Andy.  Such actors also were in his full-lnegth movie " -30
    " and others of his creation.  A wise man, that!

    Lois Culver
    Mrs. Howard Culver

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:08:26 -0400
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Please squeeze the juice out of a few
     juniper berries for [removed]"

    Dear Martin-

    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];

>     Lon Chaney  did not do much radio because he was known for drinking too much<

    Sounds very plausible!

>     John Carradine ... got drunk between East Coast and West Coast  productions
>     so someone else filled in for him

    Sounds the same.

    Though there's always been a story circulating of the reverse, as  well: Jack
    Barrymore blowing off a show for the same reason, and  Carradine aping him at
    the [removed]

    Best,
    -Craig

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:08:49 -0400
    From: William Brooks <webiii@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Art Gilmore
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    Just a note about a wonderful man, Art Gilmore. Beside being one of, if
    not the best announcers in Hollywood, he was also a fine actor. In
    addition to that he was and still is a tall, lean, handsome man with an
    air of dignity about him. If you look up the word class---you will find
    a picture of Art Gilmore.

    With these credits as a performer, they are not the main reason Jack
    Webb used Art on Dragnet and other police shows.  Webb told Art that he
    looked the way most policemen thought they looked. Art usually played
    an officer of rank, Lieutenant, Captain, etc. and played them well.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:34:29 -0400
    From: mmartini@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Corwin Short

    Hi,
    For those interested and who might be living in the Greater Cincinnati area,
    the award-winning Norman Corwin documentary, along with the 3 other nominated
    short films, will be presented Monday (7/24) and Tuesday (7/25) evenings at
    7-pm at the Freedom Center near downtown Cincinnati.  Information at
    [removed].

    -Mike

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:40:04 -0400
    From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Art Gilmore

    Having seen Mr. Gilmore, along with Peggy Webber, Harry Bartell and Howard
    Culver in old episodes of DRAGNET and ADAM-12, Andy Blatt asked:

>     Was it common for such programs to
>     contain such a plethora of former radio actors?

    It certainly was when the producer-director is Jack Webb!  Seriously, Webb
    was most comfortable hiring the people with whom he'd worked all his
    [removed] sometimes even after he'd fired them!  You'll also see OTR people
    like Herb Ellis, Barney Phillips, Sam Edwards and lots and lots of Virginia
    Gregg in those programs.

    Michael

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:22:46 -0400
    From: "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Actors on TV

    Andy Blatt writes that he has seen radio actors on programs done in the
    60's.  He questions:

> >     Was it common for such programs to

     >>contain such a plethora of former radio actors.  Was

> >     it because they were newly-unemployed and available
> >     for work or was it a tribute to Jack Webb that he
> >     hired people he might have worked with in radio or
> >     people he knew from radio?

    One can only guess at this point.  Given:  Many radio people had also been
    actors in other media, so why shouldn't they accept acting jobs on
    television or on the stage? And working puts food on the table.

    Before "Dragnet", Jack Webb was a very busy radio actor and certainly wanted
    to go with the people whose talent and friendship he knew and could trust.
    But there's more to it.  He wanted his TV Dragnet to have a certain rhythm
    of the lines, just as the radio show had.  According to Amzie Strickland, he
    didn't want memorization or acting. There were charts with the dialogs, and
    if an actor delivered those lines in a reasonably theatrical manner, Webb
    would reject that, in favor of the rhythm that we are all familiar with, in
    "Dragnet", and which was later caricatured with satire by the great Stan
    Freberg. A serious, no nonsense actor, Amzie was often told by Webb:  "You
    are memorizing and acting again."  He wanted it his way.

    I am sure that Webb was smart enough to know that his best bet to control
    vocal delivery was to choose radio actors: people who were used to reading,
    and people who did not have to memorize. The many full facial shots in his
    Dragnet shows proves that he was not too interested in body language.

    Stuart

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:31:31 -0400
    From: mikennancy2001@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Comedy Show

    I remember this well also.  It broadcast on Sunday mornings on the West coast
    when I was a youngster, and I would lie in bed and howl with laughter while
    the
    various snippets were played.  I think the original host was Jack Carney
    (sp?),
    but he passed away sometime in the mid 1980s and was succeeded by Dick
    Cavett.
    That show turned me onto all sorts of comedy, both OTR and more contemporary.
    I
    don't know when it was discontinued or why.

    Mike Messner

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:42:42 -0400
    From: "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  [removed] Lou Lauria

    And thank you, Lois Culver, for being such a lady and not correcting me on
    the "Lauria" spelling!

    Stuart

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:01:40 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:Art Gilmore now Jack Webb

    Andy asked:

>     Was it common for such programs to contain such a plethora of former radio
>     actors.  Was it because they were newly-unemployed and available for work
>     or was it a tribute to Jack Webb that he hired people he might have worked
>     with in radio or people he knew from radio?

    Mostly the latter. Jack Webb was known among friends to be very loyal to
    those friends. He often used them in roles throughout his radio career
    where he had control. A good example, was in Pete Kelly's Blues, he used
    Dick Cathcart to play the music. Cathcart was, I believe, an old army
    buddy of Webb's. He also used as blues singer Maggie Jackson, the singer
    Meredith Howard who was a high school friend.

    Jim Widner

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:27:04 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dealer Room Expanded

    Good news for OTR dealers!

    The dealer rooms for The Mid-Atlantic Nostalgia Convention got expanded an
    extra section, thanks to the hotel.  Just worked it out this afternoon with
    them.  As a result, we have room for a few more dealer tables, and we won't
    be sticking people out in the hallway which we feared was going to happen.

    There were dealers that we had to turn down, regrettably, because we sold
    out of dealer tables - it was a first come, first serve basis to keep it
    fair for all.  Anyone who wants to set up, there is extra table space now
    and once again, on a first come, first serve basis.  I am also e-mailing
    those who are on the waiting list, who gave us their e-mail address so they
    get a crack at tables too.

    Anyone wanting space, drop me a line by e-mail off the digest and I'll hook
    you up.

    Martin
    717-456-6208
    mmargrajr@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:27:16 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  7-21 births/deaths

    July 21st births

    07-21-1863 - C. Aubrey Smith - London, England - d. 12-20-1948
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    07-21-1883 - Cecil Humphreys - Cheltenham, England - d. 11-6-1947
    actor: "Theatre Guild on the Air"
    07-21-1895 - Ken Maynard - Vevey, IN - d. 3-13-1973
    cowboy actor: Ken Maynard Show"
    07-21-1899 - Ernest Hemingway - Oak Park, IL - d. 7-2-1961
    author: "NBC University Theatre"; "Columbia Workshop"; "Screen Guild
    Theatre"
    07-21-1901 - Allyn Joslyn - Milford, PA - d. 1-22-1981
    actor: "Island Boat Club"; "Page of Romance"; "Show Boat"
    07-21-1902 - Elsie Hitz - Cleveland, OH - d. unknown
    actor: Ellen Randolph "Story of Ellen Randolph"; Gail Brewster
    "Dangerous Paradise"
    07-21-1905 - Diana Trilling - d. 10-23-1996
    writer: "NBC University Theatre"
    07-21-1909 - Frank Barton  - d. 1-11-1995
    announcer: "A Date With Judy"; "Joan Davis Show"
    07-21-1910 - Carl Ravazza - Alameda, CA - d. 7-29-1968
    bandleader: "Carl Ravazza and His Orchestra"; "One Night Stand"
    07-21-1910 - Himan Brown
    actor, producer: Papa Marino "Little Italy"; "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"
    07-21-1910 - Mary Eastman - Kansas City, MO
    soprano: "Atwater Kent Hour"; "Waltz Time"
    07-21-1911 - Alice Cornett - Plant City, FL
    singer: "Garry Moore Show"; "The Song Shop"
    07-21-1912 - Frank Deniz - Cardiff, Wales - d. 7-17-2005
    guitarist: "Harry Parry's Radio Rhythm Club"
    07-21-1914 - Robert Presnell, Jr. - d. 6-xx-1986
    writer: "The Smiths of Hollywood"
    07-21-1915 - Floyd McDaniel - Athens, AL - d. 7-22-1995
    guitarist, vocalist: (Member of the Ink Spots) "The Four Ink Spots";
    "Let's Go Nightclubbing"
    07-21-1920 - Isaac Stern - Kreminiecz, Ukraine, USSR - d. 9-22-2001
    violinist: "Jack Benny Program"; "New York Philharmonic"
    07-21-1922 - Kay Starr - Dougherty, OK
    singer: "The Bob Crosby Show"
    07-21-1924 - Don Knotts - Morgantown, WV - d. 2-24-2006
    actor: Windy Wales "Bobby Benson's Adventures"
    07-21-1925 - Anne Meacham - Chicago, IL - d. 1-12-2006
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    07-21-1926 - Bill Pertwee - Amersham, England
    actor: ARP Warden Hodges "Dad's Army"
    07-21-1926 - Josephine Premice - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-13-2001
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    07-21-1942 - Patricia Elliott - Gunnison, CO
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    July 21st deaths

    02-03-1932 - Peggy Ann Garner - Canton, OH - d. 7-21-1982
    actor: Esther Smith "Meet Me in St. Louis"
    02-10-1929 - Jerry Goldsmith - Los Angeles, CA - d. 7-21-2004
    composer, conductor: "Frontier Gentleman"; "Romance"
    02-22-1907 - Robert Young - Chicago, IL - d. 7-21-1998
    actor: Jim Anderson "Father Knows Best"; Doug Adams "Passport for Adams"
    03-05-1906 - Harry Lubin - d. 7-21-1977
    music: "Glamour Manor"; "Burns and Allen"; "Blondie"
    06-13-1892 - Basil Rathbone - Johannesburg, South Africa - d. 7-21-1967
    actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"; Inspector Burke "Scotland
    Yard's Inspector Burke"
    06-16-1916 - Stanley Niss - Illinois - d. 7-21-1969
    writer, director: "Counterspy"; "Gang Busters"; "Twenty-First Precinct"
    07-13-1913 - Dave Garroway - Schenectady, NY - d. 7-21-1982
    emcee, announcer: "World's Great Novels"; "Dave Garroway Show"; "Dial
    Dave Garroway"
    07-16-1920 - Shirley Thomas - d. 7-21-2005
    producer: "Hopalong Cassidy"
    08-27-1916 - Vicki Vola - Denver, CO - d. 7-21-1985
    actor: Shanghai L'il DeVries "Jungle Jim"; Edith Miller "Mr. District
    Attorney"
    10-25-1825 - Johann Strauss, Jr. - Vienna, Austria - d. 7-21-1899
    composer: "American Radio Warblers"; "Canary Pet Show"
    11-18-1926 - Dorothy Collins - Windsor, Ontario, Canada - d. 7-21-1994
    singer: "Your Hit Parade"
    11-28-1925 - Virginia Hewitt - Shreveport, LA - d. 7-21-1986
    actor: Coral Karlyle "Space Patrol"
    xx-xx-1900 - Pierre Andre - d. 7-21-1962
    announcer: "Little Orphan Annie"; "Captain Midnight"
    xx-xx-1913 - Herb Shelton - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-21-1964
    announcer, host: "Honeymoon in New York"; "Luncheon at the Latin
    Quarter"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Home state of Ruth Peterson
    Wauwatosa, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:08:01 -0400
    From: "theharness" <theharness@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  A bit of Canadiana

    Hi, folks.  We don't hear much about Canadian OTR on the digest, so if you'll
    indulge me a moment, I'll share the jist of an article I read recently.  Don
    Messer was one of Canada's fiddling legends.  He is frequently associated with
    the province of Prince Edward Island, because many of his radio shows
    originated from Charlottetown, PEI, and his band of musicians and dancers was
    known as Don Messer and his Islanders.  Messer was actually born in Tweedside,
    New Brunswick.  He began playing fiddle at the age of seven.  After hosting
    several radio shows, he had a TV show called Don Messer's Jubilee from 1958 to
    1969.  He died in 1973 of a heart attack.  On July 23rd, one of his first
    fiddles will be auctioned off in Coldbrook, Nova Scotia.  Organizers hope to
    fetch upwards of $7,000.  His daughter, Dawn Messer Attis, who is already 72,
    said she hates to see it go, but one thing that her dad always said was that
    an instrument was meant to be played.  Devon Wilkins.

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:08:47 -0400
    From: "theharness" <theharness@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  A bit of Canadiana

    Hi, folks.  We don't hear much about Canadian OTR on the digest, so if you'll
    indulge me a moment, I'll share the jist of an article I read recently.  Don
    Messer was one of Canada's fiddling legends.  He is frequently associated with
    the province of Prince Edward Island, because many of his radio shows
    originated from Charlottetown, PEI, and his band of musicians and dancers was
    known as Don Messer and his Islanders.  Messer was actually born in Tweedside,
    New Brunswick.  He began playing fiddle at the age of seven.  After hosting
    several radio shows, he had a TV show called Don Messer's Jubilee from 1958 to
    1969.  He died in 1973 of a heart attack.  On July 23rd, one of his first
    fiddles will be auctioned off in Coldbrook, Nova Scotia.  Organizers hope to
    fetch upwards of $7,000.  His daughter, Dawn Messer Attis, who is already 72,
    said she hates to see it go, but one thing that her dad always said was that
    an instrument was meant to be played.  Devon Wilkins.

    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:25:32 -0400
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  YTJD pre-empted shows

    Since the "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar" shows that were pre-empted at CBS
    were recorded, is it possible to locate them and get them into circulation?
    What are those episodes, and who has them?

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
    [removed]~stmarkch/
    Democrats: [removed]
    Kids o/t New Century: [removed]

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