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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 474

Table Of Contents: 

	 Philip Marlowe Reviews
	 World Wars I and II
	 Re: [removed] Digest V96 #471
	 Can anyone help here?
	 Shadowy stuff
	 Trade?
	 Who's on First
	 "Second World War"

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Date: 07 Dec 96 00:18:52 EST
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Philip Marlowe Reviews
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Philip Marlowe, Adventures of.  Review #14 of 15
Starring Gerald Mohr.  From the cassette lending library of North American Radio
Archives (NARA) 

NARA Cassette 7227 Side A, 7/28/51.  Good Neighbor Policy.

It has been a slow day for Philip and he is home in his apartment trying to keep

cool.  A mix up by the telephone company has his incoming calls going to next
door's apartment #three.  Boy does his neighbor get mad over a few wrong
numbers.  I don't think Philip ever gets a client in this episode.  Chalk it up
to pro bono work.  "Our star, Gerald Mohr, can be currently seen in the Santana
production of Sirocco".  (A Bogart flic).

NARA Cassette 7227 Side B, 8/4/51.  The Long Way Home

A kindly old gentleman is looking for his missing wife.  She left home two days
to drop off some clothes to the Laundromat and now hubby is getting worried.
The trail leads from the Laundromat to a camera store and a garden supply store.
I'm getting worried about Philip.  He has been doing a lot of work lately but I
don't think anyone is paying him his $[removed] a day.  The show doesn't have a
sponsor but I don't think he should have to work for free.

That's 30 for tonight
NGC
Norman Cox  

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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:48:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: World Wars I and II
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 05:25:33 GMT
> From: Richard Weil <richrw@[removed]>
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: World War I, World War II
> Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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> 
> In an episode of Gildersleeve from 1946 after the war was over, Gildy tells
> Leroy that he was in the "last war". He of course was referring to World War
> I, bur called it the "last war". My question is, when did people start
> referring to the wars as World War I and World War II? Thanks

In 1946, I suspect people were still getting used to the war being over.
Not all of the troops were home, some rationing and price controls were
still in effect, etc.  Relative to a war that people were still
experiencing in some ways, World War I was still the "last" war.  I
suppose it's kind of like the story of when Harry Truman, during his first
week as President, called up someone to tell him that the President had
appointed him to some office.  "Did he make the appointment before he
died?" said the person.  "No, he made it just now," replied Truman.

The expression "World War II" was in use while that war was still in
progress.  I know I saw it in President Truman's proclamation of the end
of hostilities.  I suspect it was in use as soon as it became clear that
the war was a world war. 

For that matter, I wouldn't be surprised if the expression "World War II"
were in use even before the war began, in the same sense as we use the
term "World War III," meaning a hypothetical war that we hope to avoid.

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 13:53:13 -0600
From: Alecia <ramble@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: [removed] Digest V96 #471
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Hello all,

I would like to reply to Jack Manns comment on wanting to hear all our
OTR favorites.

I must admit that I have many, many, many favorites in my OTR
collection. So I will just mention a few here:

CBS Radio Mystery Theater- "Deadly Hour" 02/09/74 very suspenseful
leaves you hanging with each scene.


My Favorite Husband with Lucy Ball-
George's New Secretary and Old Love Letters
Liz Tries to Help George Get a Raise

Inner Sanctum- Judas Clock 11/19/49


The Creaking Door- 
I See Ghosts 
Auntie  May
The Dummy

Richard Diamond- Murder at the Hair Growth Salon


Like I said before I have many favorites, so it is hard to pinpoint and
exact favorite but this is a sample.


Merry Christmas and may all your door steps be covered with great
listening!

Alecia

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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 06:25:51 -0600 (CST)
From: caldwell@[removed] (Wayne Caldwell)
To: otr@[removed] (otr mailing list)
Subject: Can anyone help here?
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I received the following email can anyone help them? If so please email them.

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> 
> The company that I represent owns music from the radio show called "The
> Cuckoos" it was based on The Ramblers. I was wondering if you have a
> copy that we could purchase, or if you knew where I might be able to get
> a copy from.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> Seth Zowader
> -- 
> MPL Communications, Inc.
> 39 West 54th Street
> New York, NY 10019
> tel (212) 246-5881
> fax (212) 977-8408
> mplcom@[removed]
> [removed]

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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 07:33:52 -0500
From: Andrew Rodriguez <nasty@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shadowy stuff
Message-ID: <[removed]@LOCALNAME>
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Hi there folks,
               I'm a director for a local theatre company in Nyack, New
York. In the next few months I will be producing an evening of "Radio". I
wanted to do a couple of Shadow episodes and needed some information. 1) To
whom do we write for copywright (anyone have an e-mail address?) permission.
2) Information on the music used in the show, especially the theme behind
the Shadow's voice. 3)I'll take any tips anyone has on producing them and of
course any stuff on the Shadow you care to send. You can reach me at
'nasty@[removed]'...
                      Many thanks
                       [removed]

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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 07:53:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Charlie Matkin <cmatkin@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Trade?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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I am interested in trading for tapes of Groucho and Baby Snooks. We have
done re-creations of each, transcribing from tapes as well as using original
scripts.
The only Groucho we have used is where Charles Goren was a guest (we only
did the part with the beauty contest winner (Sonita). I would like to
acquire others for future live shows, as well as Baby Snooks.  I will trade
some of my numerous tapes of the Bickersons, and/or the ones mentioned above
(either originals or our re-creations). The Baby Snooks shows we have done
are the piano lesson and the exclusive school (Miss "Gooseberry"). We have
performed from the script for the "Radio Program", but have never recorded it. 

Anyone interested, email me at my new (permanent) address:

        charlie_matkin@[removed]

or      cmatkin@[removed]

You are also invited to visit our Web Page if you haven't already:

[removed]~NORT

Thanks in advance.

Charlie Matkin, President
New Orleans Radio Theatre, Inc.
[removed] Box 24184
New Orleans, LA 70184-4184

Phone/fax: (504) 282-6404
Charlie Matkin, President
New Orleans Radio Theatre, Inc.
[removed] Box 24184
New Orleans, LA 70184-4184

cmatkin@[removed]

cdm01@[removed]

[removed]~NORT

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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 11:16:13 -0600
From: "Marvin R. Bensman" <bensmanm@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Who's on First
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Steve Allen, in his book, "More Funny People," Stein and Day, 1982 wrote:

"It may seem pointless to subject "Who's On First?" to analysis. But it is
instructive to do so, nevertheless, partly because the routine is (a)
eminently successful and considered a classic but (b) one of the dumbest
ever written. No one seems to know who created the routine in the first
place. Abbott and Costello never claimed to. It seems to be one of those
ancient sketches - common in the world of burlesque - that Bud and Lou
simply picked up from John Grant and gave their own stamp. If it had been
previously created but were submitted next Tuesday to any professional
comedian, he would not only refuse to buy it, but would be so prejudiced
against its creator that he would probably unwilling to ever look at
anything else the man or woman presented.

Consider, first, the premise or philosophical rationale of the routine.
Abbot says, "You know, strange at it may seem, they give ballplayers
nowadays very peculiar names."

Right off the bat, the routine is preposterous. Nobody has every given
ballplayers peculiar surnames. Ballplayers - like other human beings -
occasionally have odd nicknames. But this routine is about surnames. As if
it sensibly buttressed his case, Abbot proceeds to say, "Now, on the St.
Louis team, Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't know's on [removed]"

Most routines that are eventually going to escalate a theoretical argument
to absurd lengths do so by first stating a point or two that are
believable, referring to something that has already happened or could
easily happen. But in the case of "Who's On First?" the argument is
preposterous at the very onset.

If one tries, as a theoretical exercise, to make sense of the routine, it
could have been that at some time in the past - perhaps in the last century
- there was an exchange between vaudeville comedians based on early
American exposure to Chinese names. "Hu" is an actual name in Chinese. So
there could have been a realistic conversation which went as follows:

STRAIGHT MAN: You know, there are a lot of Chinese getting off the boats
these days in San Francisco. I was down at the docks yesterday and I saw Hu
get off first, Hee got off second, and How got off third. COMIC: Wait a
minute. I want you to tell me the names of the Chinese who got off the
boat. SM: I'm telling you. Hu got off first- COMIC: That's what I'm asking
you. SM: And that's what I'm telling you. COMIC: You're telling me what?
SM: I'm telling you Hu got off first. COMIC: Who got off first? SM: That's
[removed]"

Steve Allen goes on to state, "I'm assuming it will never be possible to
determine if such speculation is related to the origin of "Who's On First?"
but the hypothesis suggested is not unreasonable." He then goes on in print
with the complete script of the Abbott and Costello routine. He then notes,
"Only two very polished, experienced professisonals could have gotten such
big laughs with such an inane sketch."

Steve Allen's books on Funny People are really excellent reading and
insightful commentary on what makes something and someone funny.

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*Professor Marvin R. Bensman, [removed], [removed]                              *
*Department of Communication; Office Phone: (901) 678-3174 or 678-2565 *
*University of Memphis        Fax: (901) 678-4331                      *
*Memphis, TN 38152                                                     *
*E-mail: BensmanM@[removed]                                       *
* To see University of Memphis radio archive look at:                  *
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Date: Sat,  7 Dec 1996 13:32:51, -0500
From: ZQEK71A@[removed] ( CHRISTOPHER R CHANDLER)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "Second World War"
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The term "Second World War" was in use on the very first day of the 
conflict.  On the Mutual network 9/1/39 broadcast of the speech that 
was pretty much Hitler's declaration of war on Poland, the 
commentator Raymond Gram Swing sums up by saying "The second world 
war was announced by Chancellor Hitler this morning".

Likewise, on the last day of the war (8/14/45), Bob Trout of CBS said 
"this is the end of the second world war."  This terminology was used 
both in the actual broadcast and in a re-creation of it that was done 
some time later.  

i never thought about this until is was discussed [removed] it seems 
to me that in the late '40s, WW2 was often referred to simply as "the 
war", while WW1 is sometimes still called "the great war".  could 
this be a generational thing as well as a historical necessity?  for 
example, when people of my generation say "back during the war",  
they're usually talking about the Persian Gulf War!  

NEW SUBJECT:
i've got a question, too.  i've got a recording of "the smackouts" 
from the early '30s.  I know this was Jim and Marian Jordan's pre-
"Fibber McGee" [removed] does anybody have any details about the 
show?  What time of day was it on?  Was this the first place Marian 
played the "Teeny" character?  etc.  Any info would be appreciated.



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