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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 189
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  OTR books for sale                    [ "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed]; ]
  Lone Ranger pedometer                 [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
  Amos 'n' Andy                         [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
  Benny 12/15/40                        [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  The Froth Estate                      [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
  Scariest Show                         [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  Richard Boone                         [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  Copying at midnight                   [ Radioclass <radioclass@[removed] ]
  Godfrey on AFRS                       [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
  Canadian Shows                        [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
  Air Checks or not?                    [ Tom Hood <thood@[removed]; ]
  Internet radio                        [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
  6-21 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  WTIC's "The Golden Age of Radio"      [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
  12" v. 16" transcriptions             [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:59:50 +0000
From: "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR books for sale

I have some extra copies of OTR books to sell,

ie. Erik Barnouw's "The Image Empire and the Golden Web,";

anthologies of radio plays: ie The Free Company Presents, The Treasury Star 
Parade, Free World Theater, several Corwin volumes, We Stand United by 
Stephen Vincent Benet, Plays from Radio etc.

biographies of Walter Winchell and Elmer Davis, various bios of Orson 
Welles etc

This Was Radio by Joseph Julian,  Maltin's The Great American Broadcast, 
Five Directors: The Golden Years of Radio

Howard Blue

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:09 +0000
From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lone Ranger pedometer
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Richard Rieve inquired about the Lone Ranger pedometer offer and wondered why
there were no promotions on the programs that directly involved the promotion.
That's because SPERDVAC has the transcriptions that were fed to Chicago a
half-hour before the program was broadcast live.  Only the live performances
featured the announcer hawking the premium.  This was probably because the air
dates of the recorded programs might not always coincide with the period
during which the promotion was active.  I can't remember exactly what I sent
in to get the pedometer, but I hope it wasn't more than one Cheerios boxtop
and a dime, because the darn thing lasted about three days and broke!

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:21 +0000
From: wilditralian@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Amos 'n' Andy

06-20-05

Trina Preston writes, "Can somebody tell me exactly what day of the week
Amos and Andy show ran the
longest on the radio?  Was it a Friday or Tuesday?"

I don't know the answer to that but, as a bit of sideline info -- you're
speaking of when Amos 'n' Andy was on once a week for half an hour.
Don't forget that there was a time when they were on every week night for
15 minutes!  It was at approximately 8:00 PM, and both Gimbel's and
Macy's broadcast it over their PA systems, because if they didn't, their
stores would be empty at that time of night because nobody wanted to miss
it.

Regards,

Jim Arva

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:34 +0000
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Benny 12/15/40

George Tirebiter writes:

 > There is a bit between Jack and a quack doctor. After it ends Jack  says
 > something like  "The doctor doesn't sound like he did in the first show.
 > That's  the great thing about radio, if your doctor gets sick you can
 > substitute one of your writers instead".  So, obviously, this is a recording
 > of a West Coast broadcast and something happened to the actor who played the
 > doctor in the East Coast broadcast and one of  Jack's writers had to
 > fill in for him.  Does anyone have more details, like who was the actor in
 > the first broadcast, what happened to him and who filled in?

The doctor was played by Frank Nelson in the first version.  I'd be
interested to get a copy of your version, because all mine are the East Coast
broadcast.  Not having Frank Nelson play this part would have been 
a  non-sequitur,
because you can hear people reacting to Nelson's delivery and Mary  notes 
"hey,
it's that doctor you had in Hollywood".  Both Ed Beloin and  Bill Morrow
already had speaking parts in the script (as Sylvester and Pancake,
respectively), and they had enough on-mike experience that it would have 
been  easy for
either of them to pick up the part.  In listening to the East  Coast version,
Nelson doesn't have a lot of "welly" in his delivery ([removed], lacks  strength or
punch), but Nelson hadn't fully developed his character yet into 
the  obnoxious
ticket clerk, etc. that we usually think of for him.  So I hadn't  given his
somewhat soft delivery much thought until now.

--Laura  Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:50 +0000
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Froth Estate

I picked up a great little book last week, THE FROTH ESTATE, written by
Joseph Mackey (any relation to our own Joe Mackey?)

Mackey's book, published in 1946 by Prentice-Hall, is a series of anecdotes
compiled during  ten years with the New York Sun.  It is replete with
fascinating stories of OTR and movie personalities,  including Mary
Margaret McBride ( and her pet goat, Pierrot),  Tallula Bankhead, John
Barrymore, George Jessell, Frank Sinatra, Boris Karloff, Roland Young, Pat
O'Brien, Ilka Chase, and the list goes on and on. The writing is sharp,
funny, and marvelously descriptive.

One of my favorites is about Salvador Dali, who was under contract to
Bonwit Teller to produce two window displays.  Dali called them "Night" and
"Day."  "Day" was represented by "a mannequin with long red hair dressed in
a green negligee and feathers, gazing into a bathtub lined with Persian
lamb, in which floated narcissuses."

The store apparently changed  "Day" a bit, and when Dali saw what had been
done to his exhibit,  he leaped into the show window, "threshed around and
tugged at the fur-lined bathtub," and eventually crashed through the
plate-glass window.

He was arrested by some passing detectives and charged with disorderly
conduct. The Night Court Judge suspended his sentence because "an artist
deserved certain privileges."

If you can find the book, I am sure you'll enjoy it.  Its 236 pages really
zing!

Dennis Crow

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:01:03 +0000
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Scariest Show

      IMHO, the scariest OTR show I ever heard was an
episode of "Suspense" titled "Uncle Henry's Rosebush"
starring Agnes Moorehead. It was about a young woman
who was engaged to be married who returned to her uncle
and aunts home in a small town, only to find that everything
was not as she remembered it! You MUST hear this if you
get the chance. Miss Moorehead gives a wonderful performance
equal to, or better, than the one she gave in "Sorry, Wrong
Number"!

Another OTR Fan,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:01:54 +0000
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Richard Boone

        I was looking at the births/deaths list and noticed
a listing for Richard Boone. It listed his credits as "Dragnet".
Wasn't Jack Webb the star of "Dragnet"? I don't remember
Richard Boone ever appearing on that program. I always seem
to equate Mr. Boone with the role of Wire Palladin on TV's
"Have Gun, Will Travel". I believe John Dehner played the same
role on the OTR version of the program, but I could be mistaken.

Another OTR Fan,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:02:15 +0000
From: Radioclass <radioclass@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Copying at midnight
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Hi all

I have recorded hundreds of shows that were on the radio at midnight onto 
cassettes.  Since I had to get up at 4:30 in the morning, I used a tape 
player/recorder that had a timer.  A few months ago, this recorder started 
destroying my tapes when on timed recording.  Cleaning the heads hasn't 
helped.  As many folks have noted in several digests, saving shows on 
cassettes seems to be going the way of the dinosaurs.  Can I use a DVD 
recorder to copy radio shows, using a timer, onto CDs?  Or, any other 
suggestions for recording shows that are on at inconvenient times?

Thanks

Anne

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:05:54 +0000
From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Godfrey on AFRS

I have two excerpts from Godfrey shows that were
distributed on AFRTS, so his show was surely heard
around the world, because AFRTS was available via Sw
until the late 1980s.

Michael Berger

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:06:14 +0000
From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Canadian Shows
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Hey, folks!
Thanks for all of the great response to my query about your choice of the
scariest radio shows you have heard.
Now, for a more modern topic. I have fallen in love with the Canadian
Broadcasting Company(CBC) Mystery Project. Where can I get the whole series of
shows? Anyone have any for trade or sale?
Let me know off list, please.
Thanks,
Randy Story
West Plains, MO
(The town that is playing host to the National Audio Theater Festival Workshop
this week!)

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:06:41 +0000
From: Tom Hood <thood@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Air Checks or not?

Hi All
In 1926 Nellie Melba the great Australian soprano retired . She gave a 
final retirement concert at the Royal Opera House,Covent Garden,London on 
June 8 [removed] concert was broadcast by the BBC both on Medium & Short Wave.
The Gramophone Company Recorded portions of the performance on their own 
equipment not from the BBC feed.
My question is do these recordings (which still exist) qualify
as air checks? In the same catagory the inaugeration of Herbert Hoover was 
recorded on sound motion picture film in 1929 again not from the NBC 
[removed] of this film [removed] the sound track an air check? I am sure 
there are other examples like this. Has this question ever been addressed?
Tom Hood

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:03:24 +0000
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Internet radio

Charles forwarded us the url for WNAR and mentioned
"great programming, day and night" but if you are
tuning in looking for oldtime radio, you won't find it
day and night.  It is Christian programming, supplied
by 3 Angels Broadcasting and aired on WNAR
which is a low power FM station.  For otr, there are
about a half-dozen internet-only stations airing otr
day and night.  This station has nothing to do with
oldtime radio.

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:03:38 +0000
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  6-21 births/deaths

June 21st births

A personal note, it was 51 years ago this date that I was inducted into the 
Navy

06-21-1880 - Mary Young - d. 6-23-1971
actress: Lily "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"
06-21-1900 - Jack Arthur - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-1-1980
singer, emcee: "Echoes of New York"; "Family Time"; "Jack Arthur Show"
06-21-1907 - Charles 'Bud' Dant - d. 10-31-1999
music: "A Day in the Life of Dennis Day"; "Glamour Manor"
06-21-1911 - Irving Fein - NYC
producer: "Jack Benny Program"
06-21-1912 - Mary McCarthy - Seattle, WA - d. 10-25-1989
novelist: "Guest Star Time"
06-21-1921 - Jane Russell - Bemidji, MN
actress: Guest Detective: "Adventures of Ellery Queen"
06-21-1921 - Joan Tetzel - NYC - d. 10-31-1977
actress: Sylvia Field "When a Girl Marries"; Jane Brown "The Goldbergs"
06-21-1921 - Judy Holliday - NYC - d. 6-7-1965
actress: "Big Show"
06-21-1925 - Byron Palmer - Los Angeles, CA
actor: "Plays for Americans"
06-21-1925 - Maureen Stapleton - Troy, NY
actress: "Best Plays"

June 21st deaths

04-07-1908 - Walt Framer - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-21-1988
producer, director: "Break the Bank"; "Strike It Rich"
06-07-1908 - Clarence Straight - d. 6-21-1988
actor: Rags the Dog "Those We Love"
06-09-1922 - George Axelrod - NYC - d. 6-21-2003
writer: "Midnight in Manhattan"; "Grand Ole Opry"
07-07-1903 - Joe Boland - d. 6-21-1987
actor: Police Sergeant "Abie's Irish Rose"
08-27-1908 - Frank Leahy - O'Neill, NE - d. 6-21-1973
football coach (Notre Dame): "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "Bill Stern Colgate
Sports Newsreel"
11-18-1860 - Jan Ignace Paderewski - Kurilovka. Poland - d. 6-21-1941
concert pianist, statesman: "Paderewski's Eightieth Birthday Tribute"
-- Ron Sayles Milwaukee, Wisconsin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:03:51 +0000 From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: WTIC's "The Golden Age of Radio" The latest "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" programs with Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran, can be heard at [removed] We present three complete shows in MP3 format for your listening pleasure or for downloading, plus a bonus: the NBC newscast as broadcast by WTIC preceding the first Golden Age show in April, 1970. The programs will be available on line until at least Wednesday, July 6th, or later. Program 44: November, 1973 - Howard Duff Hardcase leading man Howard Duff built his reputation on radio, where among several other assignments he was cast as Dashiell Hammett's two-fisted private eye Sam Spade. He made so vivid an impression in this role that, when cast in his first film Brute Force (1947), he was given special billing in the credits as "radio's Sam Spade." Program 45 - December, 1973 - Himan Brown Legendary Producer/Director/Creator, Himan Brown's productions include audio works such as Inner Sanctum, The Thin Man, CBS Radio Mystery Theater, Terry and the Pirates, Bulldog Drummond, Dick Tracy, Adventure Theater, Grand Central Station, and an endless list of daytime soap operas. Himan Brown continues to produce quality audio drama before live audiences and tapes them for distribution. He also lectures and teaches. Program 46 - January, 1974 - Aldo Gisalbert (Part 2) Aldo Gisalbert, NBC studio engineer continues his discussion of the very early days of the NBC network. In its earliest days NBC operated two networks: NBC Blue, headed by station WJZ, and NBC Red, headed by WEAF. This situation arose, due to NBC then owning two stations in New York (WEAF and WJZ). WEAF and the 'Red' Network became the flagship network and offered most of the established shows--and advertisers, and the 'Blue' Network carried most of the sustaining shows. Bonus - NBC Newscast from April, 1970 When The Golden Age of Radio broadcast its first show on April 10th, 1970 Richard Nixon was President. Earlier that day Paul McCartney announced that the Beatles would never work together again. Kent State had not yet exploded into the headlines and computer floppy discs were about to be introduced. What else was happening in the United States and the world on April 10th, 1970? We thought you might enjoy listening to the NBC newscast that preceded that first "Golden Age" broadcast 35 years ago. You'll hear the WTIC signature "V" followed by the NBC news and the weather forcast from the Travelers Weather Service. In the 1970's Dick Bertel created the program "The Golden Age of Radio"for WTIC in Hartford, CT. The idea came to Dick after he interviewed radio collector-historian Ed Corcoran a few times on his radio and TV shows. "The Golden Age of Radio was first broadcast in April, 1970; Ed was Dick's co-host. For the next seven years the program featured interviews with actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians from radio's early days. Each show featured excerpts from Ed's collection. "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights on Walden Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear. Bob Scherago Webmaster ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:04:02 +0000 From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: 12" v. 16" transcriptions Lee Munsick continued this wonderful discussion of radio transcription sizes. Radio transcriptions came in both 12 and 16 inch sizes and are both appropriately called "radio transcriptions" or "electrical transcriptions". While we in the OTR world generally associate transcriptions with 16" records, they were made in the 12" variety during the 30s, although to be sure, the ones I have seen in this format are all music library transcriptions or 12" 78 rpm records of the late 20s/early 30s for some programs. They turn up on a certain net auction site not too infrequently and in the mail order catalogs of vintage record dealers like Kurt Nauck, Don Lukowski and Alan Cooperman. As a side note, in Europe, broadcasters stayed with the 12" 78 rpm record for recording and broadcasting purposes. I don't know what kind of industry they had for syndicating radio shows. 16" records were predominate in the American industry. In the later years of the OTR era, as LP cartridges and styli became common place and coarse groove equipment disappeared from the marketplace, 16" records were cut using microgrooves. 16" records eventually disappeared as well and 12" microgroove records and open reel tape took over as the medium of choice for broadcasters. All of these formats are qualified as radio transcriptions IMO, since they were used to distribute programming to radio stations. As much as I love 16" records, I have never cared as much what format a radio show or sound recording survived in, but that it did survive. Do we have listers here that could comment on the methods of program distribution used in Europe or Australia? joe salerno -------------------------------- End of [removed] Digest V2005 Issue #189 ********************************************* Copyright [removed] Communications, York, PA; All Rights Reserved, including republication in any form. 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