Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #16
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Date: 1/16/2005 10:04 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 16
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  otr listening habits                  [ "bcockrum" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
  Listening to ALL the [removed]       [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  OTR listening habits IPOD             [ "Rick Botti" <rbotti@[removed]; ]
  Re-Otr Listening Habits               [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
  Re: "Dumb" songs                      [ LBohall@[removed] ]
  Major Bowes                           [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  Harry Bartel sighting!                [ "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed]; ]
  Unheard characters                    [ "William Schell" <bschell@[removed] ]
  Listening habits                      [ "William Schell" <bschell@[removed] ]
  1-16 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Really Remley                         [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  Jerry Orbach on CBSRMT                [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
  Re: OTR Listening Habits              [ "Planetbiz" <planetbiz@[removed]; ]
  This week in radio history            [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  OTR Listening Habits                  [ BrianWest2@[removed] ]
  Re: Petticoat Junction                [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  Re: OTR Listening Habits              [ joliver@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:37:53 -0500
From: "bcockrum" <rmc44@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  otr listening habits

Seems others on the list have a much stronger constitution than I for
listening to series. If I happen to get a series, I don't dare listen to
them several at a time each day until I've heard them all. Even the best
series (Benny, Suspense, Gunsmoke, Six Shooter) can begin to sound too much
alike when taken in such heavy doses.

As for time of day, I used to listen at bedtime, but I dropped off to sleep
so fast that it would take a week for me to get through a 30-minute show,
and the constant rewinding and trying to remember the last thing that I
heard was annoying. Now I listen while driving to work, a short commute of
only 20 minutes, but I'm generally awake during it all.

And I listen to it all ... keeping an ear out for the acting credits ... and
I enjoy the commercials. When I lived in Denver and KOA (then an NBC Radio
affiliate) carried the CBS Radio Mystery Theater, I made a point of
recording the entire hour, starting with NBC News on the Hour and then the
Mystery Theater. Other fans said they were deleting the commercials as they
recorded the shows. I couldn't understand why ... the commercials reflect a
bit of history as much as the newscasts.

My collection of the series has since gone on to someone else, though I have
copies of a number of the shows, but what struck me then and now was how
boring those pre-recorded commercials were. It seems like Kellogg's was a
main supporter of CBSRMT in those early weeks, along with one or two others,
who ran the same commercials over and over and over ....

Bob Cockrum

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:04:21 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Listening to ALL the [removed]

Dixon has commented on listening to entire programs, including station IDs,
etc.  That's a great idea and may even help us put the shows in their
historical perspectives.
    Dimension X breaks into a show (Destination Moon) to announce that the
North Koreans have invaded South Korea.
    One of the CBSRMT shows has a newscast telling of the progress of the
House impeachment hearings (President Nixon).
    Another CBSRMT program has the daughter of Fulton Lewis, Jr. playing
Christmas music on the organ as part of his news and commentary.
    CBC Theater has a weather forecast and a full newscast before its "White
Christmas of Archie Nicotine", plus an ad for RCA Victor's latest audio
invention.
    And there are many more.  Listen to what comes before as well as what
comes after the program.  Somebody with the time and inclination could build
a neat historical radio CD or cassette using these bits of news, weather,
sports, commercials, and station IDs.

Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD  57401
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:24:21 -0500
From: "Rick Botti" <rbotti@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR listening habits IPOD

I started listening to OTR over K101 FM in San Francisco around 1968, they
got me hooked on the Lone Ranger and Mystery shows. Then for many years I
collected cassettes, but by the time I got a round to Reels, everyone else
had abandoned that format.

Over the past few years I switched to CD, I tried mp3 format but really
hated listening to OTR on my computer so I focused on CDs. Now all of that
changed with the introduction of Apple's IPod! I have the Mini and it holds
4 gigs of mp3 files. I started by downloading 117 episodes of X Minus One
and the little thing still had room for 200 hundred more shows, plus regular
music. So now CDs are a thing of the past, I just store all of the OTR on my
IPod and listen in the car. While I'm at home, I plug it into a small FM
transmitter and listen on the radio, but for the full effect, I own a 1936
radio with a 1946 FM converter, I just place the IPod and transmitter near
by and listen to OTR the way it was originally broadcast. Rick

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:03 -0500
From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re-Otr Listening Habits
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Tim ask readers what are some of their otr listening habits.  Well, I theme
some of my otr favorite shows.  For example I have a recorded tapes I made
with
shows that I titled "Days of The Week."  These are some of the comedies,
dramas, mystery, variety, and suspense programs that aired on that given day
of
the week.  When I get bored with listening to the recordings I made.  I'll
take
an individual show like Great Gildersleeve play an episode on Wednesday,
because it aired on that week night.  I also read daily Otr Digest to see the
birthdates and otr show dates that a show aired on that day in history.  If I
have
that particular show in my collection I listen to it.  This month I listen to
Inner Sanctum, Screen Director's Playhouse, Meet Corliss Archer, and Hollywood
Star Time to name a few that debut in the month of January.  The Academy
Awards Ceremony is less than a month now I prepare for it.  I take 31 of my
favorite Lux Radio Theatre adaptations of the nominee or winning movie of the
Lux
episode and listen to them all one a day until The Academy Awards Presentation
airs on TV.  I also listening to a few of the Academy Awards ceremonies that
aired on the radio.  I even hunt and theme my otr collection for holidays.
With
President's Inauguration Day coming next week, I will listening to an episode
of Phil Harris/Alice Faye preparing to attend President Truman's Inaugural
Ball.  Generally I listen to my otr collection everyday.  I always have a
stack
of new episodes I received as gifts or that I bought myself waiting for me to
play, so I have them to listen to everyday with my themed collection.

                                                               Trina,

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:55 -0500
From: LBohall@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: "Dumb" songs
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In a message dated 1/15/2005 9:39:25 AM Central Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:

I don't know Gary's age but as a child I heard
"Three  Little Fishies", "The Hut Sut Song", and
"Mairzy Doats" (and other novelty  songs) on the radio
when they first came out and I and reacted to them  as
a kid -- or at least as the kind of kid I was.  My
personal  reaction then was that I liked them, but not
necessarily for their  lyrics.  (And whether their
lyrics are now, sixty years later, judged  to be "dumb"
or "cute" is not particulary meaningful to  me).

No one has mentioned "Tell Mommy and Daddy I've got beans in my [removed]" Of
course, I don't know when that song first came [removed] just at the very
 end of the network radio.

Larry

My new novel, Martyr's  Cry: a mystery for hopeless romantics, is  available
now! Go to _[removed]_
([removed])   for more [removed]

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:04:48 -0500
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Major Bowes

Can anyone Help?

My parents recently asked me to look something up on the Internet for them
and my search led me to the The Nostalgia Pages; 2004 FOTR Convention
Updates.
This is where I found your e-mail address.  Maybe you can answer my parents'
question or know someone who can.

My grandfather (who died in the 1950's) was friends with Major Edward Bowes
of the radio Amateur Hour fame.  Maj Bowes gave to my grandfather as a gift a
sword that had belonged to Bowes himself.  My parents are downsizing their
apartment and are wondering whether it would be possible to sell this sword.

Are there fans of Major Bowes who might be interested in purchasing such an
item?  There don't seem to be many Maj Bowes-related items on eBay and I
wondered if there were much interest in his contribution to classic radio or
in
items connected to him?

Thank you very much!

Robert Neill
RKN2@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:19:53 -0500
From: "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Harry Bartel sighting!

When we hear someone on the radio, or, in my case, read someone's messages
in a newsgroup, we probably form a mental picture.   For Christmas we
received a CD of early Dragnet tv shows -  Harry Bartel played the priest in
the episode "Big Little Jesus."   Probably because his name sounded a bit
like Harry VonZell, I pictured Harry entirely differently.  Have any readers
been surprised when you actually saw a radio personality, compared with your
impression?  Or did they "measure up" to your imagination?

By the way, a couple of the shows seemed to be from radio scripts -
explanatory speeches about what we could plainly see, characters saying
things like, OK, Frank, what happened here?" to identify the next speaker,
etc.   Could close my eyes and follow the show fine.  (See, I'm still on
topic <g>.)

Candy

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:28:47 -0500
From: "William Schell" <bschell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Unheard characters

I just listened to a Fibber McGee and Molly episode from December 21, 1943
titled No Christmas Tree. In this program, Molly's Uncle Dennis has quite a
long speaking part as a Christmas tree lot salesman.   I must admit I was
disappointed in how uncle Dennis sounded.  As I remember it was a running
gag about uncle Dennis' drinking yet the character sounded sober with some
type of accent.  I expected a character more like Willy Lump Lump or Foster
Brooks.
Bill

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:28:53 -0500
From: "William Schell" <bschell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Listening habits

I too listen past the end of the program until the very end of the
recording.  On several tapes I have been lucky enough to hear, "WMAQ,
Chicago.  It is  9:30 pm Bulova watch time".  And in a few rare incidents, "
KFI, Los Angeles". Now I feel I have listened to a program right out of the
past in its entirety.
Bill

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:29:39 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1-16 births/deaths

January 16th births

01-16-1878 - Harry Carey, Sr. - NYC - d. 9-21-1947
actor: "Lincoln Highway"; "Suspense"
01-16-1890 - Lloyd Bacon - San Jose, CA - d. 11-15-1955
film director: "Screen Guild Theatre"; " Screen Director's Playhouse"
01-16-1894 - John B. Kennedy - Wales, Great Britain - d. 7-22-1961
commentator: "Collier's Hour"; "RCA Magic Key"
01-16-1901 - Sid Silvers - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-20-1976
actor: Beetle "Phil Baker Show"; "Jack Benny Program"
01-16-1907 - Alexander Knox - Strathroy, Ontario, Canada - d. 4-25-1995
actor: "Document A/777", BBC
01-16-1909 - Ethel Merman - Astoria, NY - d. 2-15-1984
singer" "Ethel Merman Show"; "Home Front Matinee"
01-16-1910 - Dwight Weist - Palo Alto, CA - d. 7-16-1991
actor: Mr. District Attorney "Mr. District Attorney"; Stan Burton "Second
Mrs. Burton"
01-16-1911 - Jay Hanna "Dizzy" Dean - Lucas, AR - d. 7-17-1974
baseball broadcaster: (Baseball Hall of Fame) "Game of the Day"
01-16-1914 - Roger Wagner - Le Puy, France - d. 9-17-1992
chorale director: "It's Time for Johnny Mercer"; "America Sings"; "This Is
Our Music"
01-16-1918 - Buddy Weed - Ossining, NY
musician: "Old Gold Party Time"; "Lanny Ross Show"
01-16-1920 - Elliott Reid - NYC
actor: Biff Bradley "Pepper Young's Family"; "Julian Browning "Against the
Storm"
01-16-1924 - Katy Jurado - Guadalajara, Mexico - d. 7-5-2002
actress: "George Fisher Interviews the Stars"
01-16-1929 - Popeye the Sailor
cartoon character: "Popeye"
01-16-1930 - Rita Lloyd - Brooklyn, NY
actress: "Let's Pretend"

January 16th deaths

02-12-1888 - Victor Kolar - Budapest, Hungary - d. 1-16-1957
conductor: "Ford Sunday Evening Hour"
03-25-1867 - Arturo Toscanini - Parma, Italy - d. 1-16-1957
conductor: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"
05-03-1907 - Earl Wilson - Rockford, OH - d. 1-16-1987
columnist: "Earl Wilson's Broadway Column"
06-26-1913 - Jack Moyles - d. 1-16-1973
actor: Major Daggett "Fort Laramie"; Rocky Jordan "A Man Named Jordan/Rocky
Jordan"
09-22-1875 - Guy Bates Post - Seattle, WA - d. 1-16-1968
actor: Ulysses S. Grant "Roses and Drums"
10-06-1908 - Carole Lombard - Fort Wayne, IN - d. 1-16-1942
actress: "The Circle"; "Hollywood Hotel"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:29:54 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Really Remley

Derek Tague writes:

So, my question is: was this the "real" Frankie Remley, or was it  Elliott
Lewis in character as the "Frankie Remley" from "The Phil  Harris-Alice
Faye Show"?

I believe the show in question also shows the  band performing, and you'll
see that Remley plays his guitar left-handed.   I don't know if Elliott Lewis
was left-handed, but I'd imagine most actors would  have played it
right-handed.
 I've seen the real Remley playing in some  other television shows as well,
so it's most probably the real [removed]  Frankie.

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
[removed]

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:06:11 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jerry Orbach on CBSRMT
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Hi Gang -

When Jerry Orbach died a few weeks ago, someone  mentioned that he was on the
CBS Radio Mystery Theatre.  Then someone else  mentioned that he was not.
Then
someone again mentioned that he was.  This  back-and-forth motion was making
me
seasick, so I decided to check my own collection to  answer the question once
and
for all.  He WAS on CBSRMT.

I found a tape that I recorded from WBBM on January  26, 1975 (almost 30
years ago
to the day).  Jerry Orbach starred in a program called "The Follower".  Other
 members
of the cast were  Jackson Beck, Carol Teitel, and Nat Polan.  [removed] Marshall
was the  host.

Jerry may have been in other CBSRMT programs as  well, but this one was
sufficient
for me to conclude that he definately was active on  the CBS Radio Mystery
theatre
in 1975.

Happy Taping -  Ken Piletic -- Streamwood,  Illinois
_kenpiletic@[removed]_ (mailto:kenpiletic@[removed])

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:06:49 -0500
From: "Planetbiz" <planetbiz@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: OTR Listening Habits

Hi.   First time poster here although I've been a subscriber for a few
years.

I originally started listening to OTR by purchasing one of the Radio Spirits
collections from the Price Club and using it to entertain myself as I drove
weekly back and forth between Washington DC and central New Jersey for a
work assignment.

I enjoyed OTR to such an extent that I built a reasonably large collection
of MP3s and cassettes.

I have a decent and small MP3 and listen to OTR every in a variety of
situations but usually when I'm doing something else and can use OTR to
enhance that activity:

- Grocery Shopping
- any time I have to drive 15 minutes or more
- golfing (yes, I can put my MP3 in my back pocket and use earphone nubs
while walking the course and swinging my [removed] can only do this when
playing 18 by myself on early morning rounds)
- hitting golf balls at the driving range
- working out at the health club (weights and cycling)
- going for walks

I always keep my MP3 with me and ready to [removed]

I love [removed] especially the detective [removed] I did listen to the
near entire run of Gildy.

Bill

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:07:05 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history

 From Those Were The Days --

11/16

1939 - The shrill siren call of I Love a Mystery was heard for the first
time as the show debuted on NBC's West-Coast outlets.

1/17

1938 - Francis X. Bushman was the star of the program, Stepmother, which
debuted on CBS. The show continued on the air for the next four years.

1/18

1929 - New York Daily Mirror columnist Walter Winchell made his debut on
radio, broadcasting a blend of political commentary and celebrity gossip
to "Mr. and Mrs. [removed]" His quick-jabbing, penetrating manner
became his trademark. And so did his fedora hat.

1937 - CBS introduced listeners to Aunt Jenny's Real Life Stories for
the first time. A complete story was told in five, 15-minute episodes
which aired Monday thru Friday each week. Aunt Jenny was played by Edith
Spencer and later, by Agnes Young. The show continued on radio until
1956 and was sponsored over the years by Spry shortening and Lux soap.
Aunt Jenny's whistling canary, for those of you ready to inquire, was
played by animal imitator, Henry Boyd.

1/20

1954 - The National Negro Network was formed on this date. Some 40 radio
stations were charter members of the network.

1/21

1927 - The first opera to be broadcast over a national radio network was
presented in Chicago, IL. Listeners heard selections from Faust.

1946 - The Fat Man debuted on ABC. J. Scott Smart, who played the portly
detective, weighed in at 270 pounds in real life.

1/22

1956 - Raymond Burr starred as Captain Lee Quince in the Fort Laramie
debut on CBS. The program was said to be in "the Gunsmoke tradition."

   Joe

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:07:20 -0500
From: BrianWest2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Listening Habits

In a message dated 1/14/05 3:14:58 PM, [removed]@[removed]
writes:

<< OTR Listening Habits >>

I usually get to listen to 8-10 shows a day while at work. sometimes I
canlisten to shows driving to-from work. anything else is a bonus.

Brian West

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:07:57 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Petticoat Junction
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But now I'd have to vote for Betty Jo -- I love red hair!  I wonder how
they look now, almost 40 years later? Are any of them still acting?

As a matter of fact, I understand Linda Kaye Henning is not only still acting
but has even done some modern day radio drama in Los Angeles.  Anyone know
more about this? (And, I understand she still looks very attractive. I know
Meredith MacRae did even up to her death.)

Dixon

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:08:23 -0500
From: joliver@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: OTR Listening Habits

Hello OTR-arians

The Question was asked on how you listen to OTR.

I have a boom box that plays MP3's and I can tell it to shut down at 30, 60,
120
minutes or stay on.  I normally set this to play 60 minutes when I am tring to
sleep.  Thant way if I do not hear 1 or both (If they are half hour shows) I
just hit the back button and listen again the next day.  I also listen through
my computer when I am working on it at home.  I will also have a MP3 cd in my
walkman radio for when I am doing other things.  Normally have a Reel to Reel
setup if I want to listen to some show in that room also.

It was also asked if we listen all of the way of just the acting portion.  I
personally like to hear the whole thing.

I had better be shoveling off now, best to all
The Lurker (Not The Shadow)
Jess Oliver

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