Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #34
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Date: 1/30/2007 10:18 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 34
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Radio to TV -- Not Really!            [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
      Guiding Light 70th anniversary show   [ Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed]; ]
      I always thought it was 'The.'        [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      1-30 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      The original Lone Ranger discs?       [ Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed]; ]
      Hi, my name's John                    [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]

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    Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:59:31 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio to TV -- Not Really!

    The Captain Midnight radio show did not really transition to TV, despite
    that there was a Captain Midnight TV show, both sponsored by Ovaltine.
    There were significant differences between the two shows.  On the radio
    show, the Secret Squadron was a US Government group; on TV, it was a
    private organization.  On the radio, there was a core group of Secret
    Squadron agents; on the TV show, only Ichabod Mudd and a new person, Tut,
    the "science wizard."  The TV show had a rocket airplane; in the radio
    show, conventional aircraft were flown, often amphibians; usually using
    reciprocating engines.

    A legitimate transition can be seen in the Sky King show, where Sky King
    was a rancher with an aircraft/airstrip on his Flying Crown ranch.  They
    even brought his World War II history as a Naval Aviator from World War
    II on the TV show, if the story called for it.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:49:50 -0500
    From: Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Guiding Light 70th anniversary show
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    Someone on a recent digest mentioned that the "Guiding Light" would do a
    70th anniversary show on TV last week.

    I was waiting for someone to comment on this abomination but since no
    one has I will for whatever that is [removed]

    I lived through the golden age of radio and thoroughly enjoyed the soaps
    as a kid laying in bed with eyes watering, nose running, fever and a
    nasty cough. When the same symptoms arouse weeks later and you were back
    in bed you could still follow the story!!

    I had hoped this show might be of real interest but it was anything but
    interesting.  It was TV actors trying to imitate how an old radio show
    might sound. They only missed by a country mile.  There was no
    explanation of how you got between the various segments and this left
    the viewer of today with the question "What is this all about??"  If was
    impossible to follow and  because I have always been interested in soaps
    was the only reason I could make some vague sense out of what they were
    doing. Surely with one hour at your disposal you could cover the
    highlights of the "Guiding Light".

    Won't comment more as the show was not even worth what I wrote above.
    What a shame. A wasted DVD here to record this "epic".

    Dick

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    Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:57:05 -0500
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  I always thought it was 'The.'

>     From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject:  Lone Ranger's first name

    This has to be my all-time favorite OTR Digest subject.  It goes back ten
    years ago, when I was sitting in the crowded computer lab at Penn State
    University's branch campus in McKeesport.  I was supposed to be making out a
    final examination for my electronics students, but was instead reading the
    OTR Digest.

    I often have a tendency to mumble at the screen, and apparently I said to
    nobody in particular, 'How the heck should I know what the Lone Ranger's
    first name was?'  The noise in the place must have paused for an instant
    when I said that, because when I looked around next, the entire place was
    engulfed in laughter.

    I've had an affection for the topic ever since.  The subject line of my post
    here today was one of the more common responses from the students that day.

    M Kinsler

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:43:30 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-30 births/deaths

    January 30th births

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY CONRAD!!

    01-30-1862 - Walter Damrosch - Breslau, Silesia - d. 12-22-1950
    conductor, commentator: "Baulkite Hour"; "Music Appreciation Hour"
    01-30-1882 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt - Hyde Park, NY - d. 4-12-1945
    [removed] president: "Fireside Chats"
    01-30-1885 - Ida Bailey Allen - Danielson, CT - d. 7-16-1973
    homemaker: Told listeners her favorite recipies and household hints
    on CBS
    01-30-1896 - Joseph Gallicchio - Chicago, IL - d. unknown
    orchestra leader: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Music from the Heart of America"
    01-30-1907 - Lois Wilson - Iowa - d. 1-8-1983
    actor: "Jack Benny Program"
    01-30-1911 - Hugh Marlowe - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-2-1982
    actor: Ellery Queen "Advs. of Ellery Queen"; Jim Curtis "Brenda Curtis"
    01-30-1914 - David Wayne - Traverse City, MI - d. 2-9-1995
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre" ;" Eternal Light"; "Stars in the Air"
    01-30-1914 - John Ireland - Vancouver, Canada - d. 3-21-1992
    actor: "MGM Theatre of the Air"; "[removed] Steel Hour"
    01-30-1915 - Dorothy Dell - Hattiesburg, MS - d. 6-8-1934
    actor: "Stars of Tomorrow"
    01-30-1925 - Dorothy Malone, Chicago, IL
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-30-1928 - Ruth Brown - Portsmouth, VA - d. 11-17-2006
    singer: "Newport Jazz Festival"
    01-30-1931 - Conrad Binyon - Hollywood, CA
    actor: Roscoe 'Butch' Gardiner "Mayor of the Town"
    01-30-1933 - Louis Rukeyser - NYC - d. 5-2-2006
    economic commentator: "Rukeyser's World"
    01-30-1934 - Tammy Grimes - Lynn, MA
    hostess, actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"; "Cavalcade of America"
    01-30-1937 - Vanessa Redgrave - London, England
    actor: Histories "I, Boadicea"

    January 30th deaths

    01-05-1911 - Jean-Pierre Aumont - Paris, France - d. 1-30-2001
    actor: "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Philip Morris Playhouse"
    02-18-1912 - Earl George - Donora, PA - d. 1-30-2004
    actor: "Curtain Time"; "Girl Alone"; "Mortimer Gooch"
    03-02-1904 - Leonard Levinson - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-30-1974
    writer: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Great Gildersleeve"; "Jack Carson
    Show"
    03-07-1923 - Arthur Julian - Memphis, TN - d. 1-30-1995
    writer: "The Beulah Show"
    03-19-1919 - Alfred Apaka - Honolulu, HI - d. 1-30-1960
    vocalist: "Hawaii Calls"
    04-23-1901 - George Harmon Coxe - Olean, NY - d. 1-30-1984
    novelist: "Casey, Crime Photographer" based on his novels
    05-15-1897 - Jacques Renard - Kiev, Ukraine - d. 1-30-1973
    bandleader: "Burns and Allen"; "The Joe Penner Show"; "Stoopnagle and
    Budd"
    06-02-1896 - Katherine Bacon - Chesterfield, England - d. 1-30-1982
    pianist: WOR New York
    06-25-1918 - Ken Mayer - California - d. 1-30-1985
    actor: Robbie Robertson "Space Patrol"
    06-27-1907 - John McIntire - Spokane, WA - d. 1-30-1991
    actor: Benjamin Ordway "Crime Doctor"; Lt. Dundy "Advs. of Sam Spade"
    07-03-1890 - Herbert A. Bell - Rock Valley, IA - d. 1-30-1970
    radio manufacturer: Co-founder of Packard-Bell in 1945
    07-09-1894 - Dorothy Thompson - Lancaster, NY - d. 1-30-1961
    commentator: "Commentary"
    08-08-1887 - Malcolm Keen - Bristol, England - d. 1-30-1970
    actor: "Cavalcade of America"
    08-14-1909 - Ed Herlihy - Dorchester, MA - d. 1-30-1999
    announcer: "Advs. of the Thin Man"; "Just Plain Bill"; "Vic and Sade"
    08-15-1919 - Huntz Hall - NYC - d. 1-30-1999
    comedian: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"
    09-15-1878 - William Hard - Painted Post, NY - d. 1-30-1962
    commentator: "Back of the News"
    10-01-1890 - Stanley Holloway - London, England - d. 1-30-1982
    actor, singer: "Music As You Like It"
    11-09-1895 - Lou Lubin - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-30-1973
    actor: Shorty "Amos 'n' Andy"
    11-24-1910 - Pegeen Fitzgerald - Norcatur, KS - d. 1-30-1989
    host: "The Fitzgeralds"
    xx-xx-1898 - Jane Seymour - Hamilton, Canada - d. 1-30-1956
    actor: Mrs. Brown "Claudia and David"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:43:36 -0500
    From: Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The original Lone Ranger discs?

    Jack French wrote:

>     Terry Salomonson, the expert on all WXYZ shows who has the original
>     disks of every episode of "The Lone Ranger," ..............

    I'm a little puzzled by that, for this reason:

    Bob Friedman, who worked in network and local radio was able to
    obtain all the original recordings of THE LONE RANGER from WXYZ.
    Those recordings were stored at Lyons Van and Storage building at
    Venice and Crenshaw.
    Bob told me that the company that now owned the original ET discs (I
    can't remember the name of the company just now) didn't want them
    anymore.
    I approached PPB about storing the discs in their archives. They
    decided no. So I made arrangements with SPERDVAC and they accepted. I
    went  with
    John and Larry Gassman to look over the condition of the discs and,
    later, the discs were moved to the SPERDVAC archives.

    So, Jack (and Terry) --- how can Terry Salomonson have the original
    discs of THE LONE RANGER?
    There is the possibility Terry's discs are duplicate masters. Or they
    could be pressings for syndicated release.
    If my memory is correct, back in the 30s and early 40s it was rare to
    have duplicate master ETs made. It took to much time and time was
    precious for
    all radio stations, then as it is now. Duplicate discs were struck IF
    someone wanted a copy and PAID for it. Then it was worth the time
    duplicating.

    Please, someone, tell me how Terry Salomonson can have the original
    discs ----

    I'm just curious!

    Ken Greenwald

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    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:46:30 -0500
    From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hi, my name's John

    I owe Joe Mackey, and the rest of the Digesters, an apology. After I
    dismissed the story of the Lone Ranger's first name being John as just
    another OTR myth, I was gently corrected, off-list, by my buddy, Jerry
    Haendiges.

    He contends that the later commercial recordings of the Masked Rider,
    released in the 50s and 60s, definitely stated that his name was
    "John." Since those records were produced by, and with the blessings
    of, his creators, it validates his first name. Jerry suggests the
    possibility that this may have been an effort to correct something
    missing for years. Nevertheless, Jerry concluded to me, some people may
    not agree with his thesis and the matter may not be resolved to
    everyone's liking.

    I find Jerry's evidence very compelling and accept his reasoning.

    Now, if we could only discover what Tonto's last name [removed]

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL
    <[removed]>

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