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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2008 : Issue 235
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: Home Recordings [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
Re: Cincinnati convention [ Chargous@[removed] ]
Heroes of The World [ "Rick Botti" <rick@[removed]; ]
Connie Haines Reply [ "Dan Wildt" <dwildt@[removed]; ]
Re: home recorded discs [ rand@[removed] ]
10-6 births/deaths [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
Need "Little Orphan Annie" Episode [ <georgewagner@[removed]; ]
Doolittle raid and others [ Michael Berger <[removed]@yaho ]
What happened to Oxydol? [ James Meadows <walthamus@[removed]; ]
On this day in history [ david rogers <david_rogers@hotmail. ]
Re: Dr. IQ candy bar [ "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed] ]
Re: Home recordings [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
Profile of Mary Costa in [removed] [ seandd@[removed] ]
REEL-TO-REEL DILEMMA [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
The third generation and counting [ "otrbuff" <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:25:21 -0400
From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Home Recordings
On10/5/2008 Arthur Funk wrote:
I have just inherited a huge library of home recordings from the
early 1940'[removed] These were recorded on a home recorder that
produced 7 inch discs that seem to be a combination of record and
cardboard-like material. In the time frame that these were recorded,
there were very few people who owned home recording devices. Some of
these speeches and things are probably very rare. I can't find out
any information about something like this, or even what they would
be called. Has anyone heard of recordings like this?
I once owned a 78 RPM home recorder from that era. I believe there
were a relatively large number of these made. Mine was a Recordio in
a "portable" case with a locking front cover. It included a cheap
microphone and could record from the mike or the built-in AM radio.
The record cutting arm was separate from the pickup arm and had a
lathe type screw that made the spiral groove. There was a spring
loaded pin that popped up near the center to engage a hole in the
recording disc when cutting a record. All of my recordings were on
10" records, but other sizes were available as well. That machine and
it's recordings disappeared during the four years I was away from
home in the Navy.
Brochure online at -
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Don
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:25:50 -0400
From: Chargous@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cincinnati convention
I think it's a good idea to have the convention at the time it's
scheduled
next year. Late April tends to have better weather. I hope we won't be in
a Depression by then, but I'll be there! I really enjoy seeing everyone,
and it's just an all-around great time, and a real spring treat.
See you there!
Travis
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:26:00 -0400
From: "Rick Botti" <rick@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Heroes of The World
I am attempting to research a radio program for an article.
* The name was "Heroes of The World".
* The year was 1929.
* The sponsor was the Durant Motor Company.
All I have to begin this project are three souvenir cards of historic
persons issued by the sponsor.
It would have been a hgh marketing expense for such a small automobile
company. From the few surviving documents I've been privileged to have
seen, Durant Motors launched a massive advertising campaign that year
that included radio broadcasts from the factory as well as remotes
from up and down the west coast. Sounds very advanced for 1929.
I assume that the radio show only lasted a year since 1930 and the
great depression brought the beginning of the end for the company as
it finally went under in 1932.
Does anyone know of the program?
Rick
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:26:54 -0400
From: "Dan Wildt" <dwildt@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Connie Haines Reply
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I might be mistaken, but wasn't OTR radio singer Connie Haines (who just
recently passed away at age 87) the actress who was credited as Gertie the
receptionist on the TV version of "Perry Mason"? (I don't think she had a
role on the OTR version of "Perry Mason", however. She wasn't on screen
much, but her voice was only heard over the office intercom. She was briefly
on screen and, as I recall, was very attractive and blonde. This is based on
what I recall and what others have told me.
Response: The role of Gertie in the TV Perry Mason was played by Connie
Cezan. According to IMDB, she portrayed Gertie Lade (the receptionist) 17
times over the years. Gertie was probably mentioned in every TV episode
(when she phoned to alert Perry Mason or Della Street that a client or the
police has arrived), but actually appeared on screen much less.
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:27:31 -0400
From: rand@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: home recorded discs
Arthur mentions in the Digest that, on a memorabilia discussion board,
some has a collection of 7" cardboard home recordings of speeches by FDR
and Truman and other radio material.
These types of home recordings are fairly well known. It was the same
technology used to create professional "one off" recordings of radio shows
or master discs for records.
These home recorders weren't that uncommon and you'll see two types of
discs. Some have a metal base with a plastic covering for recording the
audio; others have a cardboard base and were common during the War years
when metals were in demand for the War effort.
There was also a home recording system with pre-grooved plastic discs that
RCA came out with in the 1930s; these are fairly rare and weren't used for
very long.
And, speaking of home recording technology, I have a machine that records
material magnetically on a thin small spool of wire. These were used in
the 1940s before reel to reel tape became common in the marketplace. I
have some spools I've put on my blog with radio shows from the period;
there could be more wires or reels of tape floating out there with rare
radio material.
For the cardboard discs, or other home recorded material you dig up, I'd
recommend finding someone that can transfer it and do a bit of research to
see if they contain excerpts of "missing" radio programs. The sound from
cardboard-based discs isn't great, but they can be listenable at least.
Randy
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Randy A. Riddle
Mebane, NC
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:27:42 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 10-6 births/deaths
October 6th births
10-06-1866 - Dr. Reginald Fessenden - Milton, Canada - d. 6-22-1932
made world's first radio voice broadcast (Decmeber 24, 1906)
10-06-1887 - Maria Jeritza - Brunn, Austria-Hungary - d. 7-10-1982
singer: "General Motors Concerts"
10-06-1893 - Milton Ager - Chicago, IL - d. 5-6-1979
composer of many songs broadcast on radio
10-06-1897 - Jerome Cowan - NYC - d. 1-24-1972
actor: "Best Plays"; "Philip Morris Playhouse"; "Suspense"
10-06-1898 - Cliff Burwell - New Haven, CT - d. 10-9-1976
pianist: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
10-06-1899 - Mitchell Leisen - Menominee, MI - d. 10-28-1972
director: Lux Radio Theatre
10-06-1901 - Leslie Arliss - London, England - d. 12-30-1987
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
10-06-1905 - Clinton C. Balmer - d. 2-8-1988
news commentator: WLVA Lynchberg, Virginia
10-06-1905 - Helen Wills Moody - Centerville, CA - d. 1-1-1998
tennis playeer: "Information Please"
10-06-1906 - Janet Gaynor - Philadelphia, PA, - d. 9-14-1984
hostess, actor: "Hollywood Showcase: Stars Over Hollywood"; "Lux
Radio Theatre"
10-06-1907 - Owen Davis, Jr. - NYC - d. 5-21-1949
actor: Allen McCrea "Those We Love"
10-06-1908 - Carole Lombard - Fort Wayne, IN - d. 1-16-1942
actor: "The Circle"; "Hollywood Hotel"
10-06-1910 - Lawrence Langner - Swansea, South Wales - d. 4-2-2002
theatre guild supervisor: "Theatre Guild on the Air"
10-06-1912 - Mel Dinelli - d. 11-28-1991
writer: "Advs. of Philip Marlowe"
10-06-1914 - Randolph Carter - Lexington, NE - d. 10-12-1998
writer: "Florence Nightingale"
10-06-1914 - Thor Heyerdahl - Larvik, Norway - d. 4-18-2002
archaeologist: "London Column"
10-06-1917 - Rosella Qualey - Donnelly, MN - d. 2-18-2007
home economist: KWLM-FM Willmar, Minnesota
10-06-1921 - Cliff White - d. 4-2-1998
guitarist: (Mills Brothers) "Jubilee"; "Radio Hall of Fame", "Mail Call"
10-06-1925 - Shana Alexander - NYC - d. 6-23-2005
writer and commentary
10-06-1926 - Alan Copeland - Los Angeles, CA
singer: (The Modernaires) "Jan Garber and His Orchestra"; "Monitor"
10-06-1937 - Dawn Bender
actor: Margaret Herbert Murray "One Man's Family"; Suzie Sample
"Cousin Willie"
10-06-1941 - Tom Carroll - NYC - d. 3-18-2001
narrator: "Monitor"
October 6th deaths
01-06-1917 - Dan Cubberly - Colorado - d. 10-6-1991
announcer: "Rocky Jordan"; "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
01-25-1916 - Les Crutchfield - d. 10-6-1966
writer: "Escape"; "Fort Laramie"; "Gunsmoke"
02-07-1924 - Hattie Jacques - Sandgate, Kent, England - d. 10-6-1980
actor: Sophie Tuckshop "It's That Man Again"; Agatha Dangelbody
"Educating Archie"
03-07-1907 - George Beck - NYC - d. 10-6-1999
screenwriter: "Good News of 1939"; "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"
03-30-1895 - Amos Binkley - d. 10-6-1985
banjoist: (Binkley Brothers Barn Dance Orchestra" WSM Nashville, TN
04-05-1908 - Bette Davis - Lowell, MA - d. 10-6-1989
actor: "Cresta Blanca Hollywood Players"; "Prudential Family Hour of
Stars"
05-14-1910 - Bill Danch - Hammond, IN - d. 10-6-2004
writer: "Baby Snooks Show"; "Honest Harold"; "Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou"
05-25-1918 - Henry Calvin - Dallas, TX - d. 10-6-1975
actor: Joshua Sharpe "Big Guy"
09-04-1937 - Red Shipley - Johnson City, TN - d. 10-6-2007
host: "Stained Glass Bluegrass"; "Orange & Blue Review"
09-13-1897 - David Rubinoff - Grodno, Poland - d. 10-6-1986
violinist, conductor: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Rubinoff and His Violin"
09-19-1888 - Porter Hall - Cincinnati, OH - d. 10-6-1953
actor: "March of Time"
09-22-1885 - George Gaul - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-6-1939
actor: Jeb Stuart "Roses and Drums"; "Grits and Gravy"
10-04-1894 - Cliff Hall - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-6-1972
comedian: Sharlie "Baron and the Bee, Jack Pearl Show"
10-23-1901 - Arthur Jacobson - NYC - d. 10-6-1993
actor: Kirk Harding "Woman in White"; Anthony J. Marleybone "Affairs
of Anthony"
11-05-1893 - Theodore von Eltz - New Haven, CT - d. 10-6-1964
actor: Inspector Fernak "The Saint"
12-01-1900 - Ted Hammerstein - d. 10-6-1973
emcee: "The Hammerstein Music Hall"
xx-xx-1914 - Walter Herlihy - Massachusetts - d. 10-6-1956
announcer: (Brother of Ed) "Dorothy Kilgallen's Dairy"; "Police Woman"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:28:03 -0400
From: <georgewagner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Need "Little Orphan Annie" Episode
I need one errant episode of Little Orphan Annie to complete my
collection of extant shows.
The program is titled "In Spain" or "Nearing Castle Orampo" and was
broadcast in 1936.
I know the show exists because I listened to it a decade or more ago,
but my current OTR suppliers tell me I'm crazy.
Assistance would be very much appreciated.
Sincerely,
George Wagner
georgewagner@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:28:28 -0400
From: Michael Berger <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Doolittle raid and others
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I missed the full text of Larry Moore's original comment about the Doolittle
Raid, but the quoted reference to "more than 400,000 people died because of a
PR stunt" seems to have confused that ineffectual raid in 1942 with the 1945
firebombing raids on Tokyo, the most intense of which killed more than 100,000
Japanese.
As Steven Kallis noted, the Doolittle raid's real objective was to boost
morale in America, after a string of disastrous news following the Japanese
attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941.
Kallis' description of the London raids is mistaken. Hitler ordered the
Luftwaffe to bomb London as retaliation for RAF raids on Berlin and other
German cities.
Michael Berger
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:35:07 -0400
From: James Meadows <walthamus@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: What happened to Oxydol?
The discussion about Oxydol and why Proctor and Gamble no longer makes it led
me to a search on the web. Via Wikipedia, I learned that Oxydol was bought up
by a company called Redox, which was formed by a couple of former P&G
executives to pick up products that company no longer wanted. Redox merged
with Chempro a couple of years ago to become CR Brands, which is backed by
Allied Capital. CR also owns Biz, according to their website. Another
company, Prestige, owns another former Proctor and Gamble brand, Spic 'n Span.
I don't know what the business plans are for companies like these, but I've
hard of other companies taking over long-running product brands and trying to
make a go with them. Ovaltine is one such product. They're owned by a company
that produces their commercials in-house ---- which may be why the Ovaltine
radio ads I've heard recently are so corny. My guess is that companies like
these figure that these brands still have enough customer loyalty to be
profitable when marketed on a smaller scale than the Proctor and Gamble
leviathan.
Jim Meadows
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:35:17 -0400
From: david rogers <david_rogers@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: On this day in history
Is there a website that shows what shows were broadcast on certain days in
history?
Love as always, David Rogers
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:35:27 -0400
From: "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Dr. IQ candy bar
Mars bar?
Donald P. Tuttle
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:36:15 -0400
From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Home recordings
Hello again --
Art Funk's question about home recordings ([removed] Digest V2008 #233)
couldn't have come at a better time, as I just finished listening to -- and
converting to mp3s -- about a hundred records of the type Art describes, a
legacy of my father's estate when he passed away this last May. It brought
back a lot of old memories listening to these discs, because I recall that
Dad sold a few home recording devices in his combination hardware and
building supplies store, including first a wire recorder by a Chicago
manufacturer, and then the Wilcox-Gay Recordio -- which he liked so much
that around 1947 he bought two for our home: one portable and other a
console model in a beautiful faux-walnut cabinet. Both were part of my
father's estate sale held last month, and neither was purchased; I'm not
even sure the potential buyers had any idea what they were! And no one
checked to see if they were even functional after so many years.
The Recordio used seven, ten, and twelve-inch discs, and the sevens and some
ten-inchers were all wax on a cardboard base, while the larger discs had an
aluminum base and were intended for permanent recordings. Oddly enough, it
was the cardboard discs that remained playable, because the wax didn't bond
to the aluminum as it did to the fibers of the cardboard. The discs were all
characterized by two holes in the label area: one in the center, like all
other records; the other one about an inch away to stabilize the disc as it
travelled under the very heavy recording arm. As kids we were fascinated by
the channel the cutting arm created, as its wax flowed in a steady stream
from the needle to wrap around the center post of the turntable. The wire
recorder held more material, but its hair-thin wire was nearly impossible to
splice and the Recordio -- whose discs ran only between two and five
minutes -- had much better sound quality.
An internet Google search using the keyword "recordio" will turn up a lot of
pictures of the machines and the discs they used. Some are still available
for purchase from various auction sites. I'm so thankful we had these
machines, because they preserved for all time the voices of many loved ones
now deceased.
yOurs TRuly,
Jan Bach
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:37:01 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Profile of Mary Costa in [removed]
Lux Radio Theater pitch-woman Mary Costa is profiled for her part in Sleeping
Beauty on this animation website. It mentions a bunch of her radio work as
well.
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Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:37:14 -0400
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: REEL-TO-REEL DILEMMA
Oh the horror of it all.
After twenty years of lost-in-storage, my reel-to-reel collection was
finally unearthed last month and tho most of it is still in LA, I had some
reels
sent to me here in New York along with my original TEAC X 300R player.
The suspense was too much after all that time so last night I tried to play
some of them and was floored to discover that the machine lit up and the FF
and RW worked but when I hit PLAY nothing moved.
The capstan can be spun by hand and snaps down when I hit PLAY but it does
not move the tape.
Does anyone have any ideas of what I can do here?
I would love to repair it but maybe it is not possible?
Replace motor?
I did notice a small plume of smoke coming from the grid at the top after
about five minutes so I cut it all off.
Any help most appreciated.
Michael C. Gwynne
Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:37:23 -0400
From: "otrbuff" <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The third generation and counting
Jim Cox noted and was startled by the appearance of Oxydol from a company
which is not Proctor & Gamble.
I believe Bob Jennings hasn't been reading the digest closely. I was
surprised to find Oxydol in a second unfamiliar packaging the other day.
Upon closer examination, I observed that it is now being distributed by its
third manufacturer, hence my subject title "Unto the third generation."
I commented a half-dozen years ago that P&G had sold the brand and now
discover it has been sold again. On the digest, I regularly take note of
the fact that Lava, Crisco, Duncan Hines and several other familiar
sobriquets that brought us so much Joy (will that be the next to depart the
P&G fold?) through radio had not made enough money for the parent firm to
satisfy it in the modern age and been banished to Never Never Land.
Of course, all of this is delineated in my new book "Sold on Radio"
([removed]) too, where P&G is one of two dozen corporate
histories with impressive radio ties that used to make us Gleem. (Maybe
that's the next to go.)
That about Duz it on this subject. Bet you're fit to be Tide.
Jim Cox
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