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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 292
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      9-7 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      9/11                                  [ sinatradj@[removed] ]
      Hopalong Cassidy                      [ Jmeals@[removed] ]
      Wrt Internet Radio Database           [ "Lou Giliberto" <kd7hcw@[removed]; ]
      DeLugg/DeVol                          [ "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed]. ]
      Re: DeLugg/DeVol                      [ "Joe Cline" <joescline@[removed] ]
      Quiz Kids Question                    [ DanHaefele@[removed] ]
      ILAM book again                       [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
      Jack Benny money                      [ "Andolina, Joe" <Joe_Andolina@cable ]
      Have Question, Will Seek Answer       [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
      Re: Internet Radio Database           [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      The Lone Ranger                       [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Australian Fibber McGee               [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
      RE: Early TV fictional character (Di  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      Publicity Shots                       [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 14:53:04 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-7 births/deaths

    September 7th births

    09-07-1893 - Roscoe Karns - San Bernadino, CA - d. 2-6-1970
    actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
    09-07-1900 - Everson Tracy - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-10-1967
    actor: Fred Thompson "One Man's Family"
    09-07-1903 - Margaret Landon - Somers, WI - d. 12-4-1993
    author: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    09-07-1909 - Elia Kazan - Constantinople, Turkey - d. 9-28-2003
    film director, actor: "Free Company"; "Philip Morris Playhouse"
    09-07-1923 - Peter Lawford - London, England - d. 12-24-1984
    actor: "Radio Reader's Digest"; "Suspense"
    09-07-1927 - Don Messick - Buffalo, NY - d. 10-24-1997
    actor: "Let George Do It"; "Horizons West"; "NBC University Theatre"
    09-07-1929 - Sonny Rollins - Harlem, NY
    jazz saxophonist: "White House Jazz Festival"
    09-07-1936 - Buddy Holly - Lubbock, TX - d. 2-3-1959
    singer: "Sunday Party"; "Buddy and Bob Show"

    September 7th deaths

    05-29-1911 - Vivi Janiss - NB - d. 9-7-1988
    actress: (Married to John Larch) Kit Calvert "Aunt Mary"
    06-06-1918 - Maria Montez - Barahona, Dominican Republic - d. 9-7-1951
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    07-29-1892 - Horace Braham - London, England - d. 9-7-1955
    actor: Charles Lang "Wendy Warren and the News"; Ernest Benning "Big Sister"
    09-14-1918 - Mike Stokey - Shreveport, LA - d. 9-7-2003
    announcer: "One Night Stand"
    09-24-1900 - Ham Fisher - Wilkes-Barre, PA - d. 9-7-1955
    cartoonist: (Creator of Joe Palooka) "Raleigh Room"; "Philco Radio Time"
    09-26-1889 - Frank Crumit - Jackson, OH - d. 9-7-1943
    singer, emcee: "Blackstone Plantation"; "Battle of the Sexes"; "Singing
    Sweethearts"
    10-13-1900 - Georgia Backus - Columbus, OH - d. 9-7-1983
    actress: Peg Riley "Life of Riley"; Portia Brent "Brenthouse"; Doris Foster "A
    Date with Judy"
    10-17-1893 - Spring Byington - Colorado Springs, CO - d. 9-7-1971
    actress: Lily Ruskin "December Bride"
    11-27-1890 - Gladys Rice - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-7-1983
    singer: "Roxy's Gang"; "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Voice of Firestone"
    12-10-1920 - Dennis Morgan - Prentice, WI - d. 9-7-1994
    actor, singer: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:09:25 -0400
    From: sinatradj@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  9/11

    Manhattan Tower  Ultimate Oldies Radio

          You will need Media Player 9 This program is a little unusual when
    compared with the rest of the shows we offer here at Ultimate Oldies
    Radio. We think you'll find it stimulating. Host Sandy Singer sets the
    scene for 'Manhattan Tower'. This piece, a love story to New York, was
    written in 1945, by Gordon Jenkins! When you listen to this performance
    in light of 9/11/01, it takes on a great deal of added poignancy.

    [removed]
    [removed]
    Manhattan Tower, in memory of 9/11
    A Date With Sinatra Special
    The Bobby Darin Story   & '50s R&R -- The Real Deal

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:47:53 -0400
    From: Jmeals@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Hopalong Cassidy
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    I am going to take advantage of the good nature of OTR buffs by using this
    newsletter to promote my western novel, BOYD MATHESON by James Clay.

     There is a legitimate OTR connection here. The authorbs biography on the
    back flap of the cover reads: "As a preschooler, James Clay idolized Hopalong
    Cassidy. According to him, that fact represents one of the few wise decisions
    he
    made during the first thirty years of his life." The bio. concludes by noting:
    "Jamesb hobby is collecting old-time radio programs. Not surprisingly, his
    favorite is HOPALONG CASSIDY."

     There is another, obvious OTR connection. The first name of the title
    character was borrowed from William Boyd.

     I donbt want to give a wrong impression. Except for the name of the main
    character, there are no subtle tributes to Hoppy in the plot. The novel stands
    or
    falls on its own merits. I have tried to write a wholesome, exciting novel
    that will appeal to fans of the traditional western

     And here comes the best part, readers can enjoy the novel for free! My
    publisher, Avalon, does a great job of distributing its wares to public
    libraries
    across the country. So, if sagebrush sagas are among your favorite OTR
    programs
    you may want to ask for BOYD MATHESON by James Clay on your next trip to the
    local library.

     Thanks for your patience, pardners. I give my word as a straight shooter not
    to do any more hoorawing about my book in this space.

    Jim Meals
    ( James Clay)

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:50:54 -0400
    From: "Lou Giliberto" <kd7hcw@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Wrt Internet Radio Database

    Bhob wrote:

>     So here's my question: Why doesn't someone create the Internet Radio
>     Database (with the IMDb as a model) in order to centralize and hyperlink
>     the pool of information available from the assembled roundtable of radio
>     experts? Even if launched with only three radio series (one drama, one
>     comedy, one variety), the submission of info from expert users would
>     soon demonstrate the value. Other series could then be added on a
>     regular basis -- with a constant flow of expert user corrections and
>     additions.

    That's an interesting idea.  I think, however, that radio has less
    attraction to the general populace than movies, but there is probably enough
    of an audience to at least get some visitors.

    There are some great logs on various sites, but not really a central
    repository that people can work with and stuff.

    I'll volunteer to set up a site.  I have a little experience with database
    driven sites (smaller ones, though).  I've registered [removed] for this
    (irdb was taken by something unrelated).

    I'll post a mail to the group when I have something up there and people can
    submit ideas and things for what they would like to see.  We can make this
    something cool!

    -Lou

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Please contact this user directly with comments; discussions
    of database or website design are outside the scope of this mailing list.
    --cfs3]

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:51:03 -0400
    From: "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  DeLugg/DeVol

    Milton DeLugg was the bandleader on Gong Show; DeVol (as he usually was
    billed) led the band on Fernwood 2-Nite and its successor, America 2-Nite.

    Joe Cline ([removed])
    Charlotte

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:51:24 -0400
    From: "Joe Cline" <joescline@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: DeLugg/DeVol

    One other thing: The band on Fernwood/America 2-Nite was called  Happy Kyne
    and the Mirthmakers.

    Joe Cline ([removed])
    Charlotte

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:51:43 -0400
    From: DanHaefele@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Quiz Kids Question
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        I'm completing a catalog page for SPERDVAC's next Archives Library
    addition and am stuck on one point.  We're including two Quiz Kids shows and I
    thought it would be nice to list the kids on the shows.  Problem is I'm not
    sure
    I've correctly spelled everyone's name.  If you've got a correction, an
    off-Digest e-mail will be greatly appreciated.
           Also, I'm certain someone will notice a conflict between the date of
    the final broadcast and what's been listed for years in several reference
    books.  When I obtained transcriptions of the final broadcast I asked resident
    expert Jay Hickerson to look into it and he responded that upon further
    investigation he discovered the series did not end on 7-5-1953 as had been
    believed.
    After a summer hiatus, the series aired 9-13-1953 to 1-3-1954, a CBS
    sustainer.
    (And a public thank you to Jay for doing the research!)

    QUIZ KIDS
    (A) First question: "What husband gave his wife the only name she ever had?"
    3-24-1946 (ABC).  Panelists are Joel Kupperman, Maureen Patrice Buckley,
    Harve Fischmann, Judy Graham and Richard Likster.  Joe Kelley hosts.  Bob
    Murphy
    announces.
    (B) First question: "Who first said this famous quote?"  1-3-1954 (CBS).
    Final broadcast of the series.  Panelists are Naomi Cook, Sally Ann Wilhelm,
    Frankie Vandergood, Janet Alhelm and Richard Allman.  Joe Kelley hosts.  Jack
    Taylor announces.

         And another mystery: that final show definately was broadcast on CBS,
    but the transcriptions have NBC labels.  (But then again, when Challenge of
    the
    Yukon moved from ABC to Mutual in 1951, the transcriptions were still recorded
    at ABC and have ABC labels.)

    Dan Haefele
    DanHaefele@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:55:04 -0400
    From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
    To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  ILAM book again

    Hi all,
    Well I should have made myself a bit clearer what I was talking about,
    although I'd love to read the ILAM book by Martin Grams JR.
    I was speaking about a bookthat a publisher of Comic books was putting out?
    Did I dream the whole thing?
    It was, I thought, ILAM stories.
    Bill

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: For some info on this Moonstone Comic, see this thread on the
    ILAM Phorum:

    [removed];i=508&t=508

    --cfs3]

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:01:17 -0400
    From: "Andolina, Joe" <Joe_Andolina@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jack Benny money

    Hey gang, I made a very significant and mindblowing discovery just today. I
    had a $[removed] bill in my hand (a very rare ocassion to say the least),
    looked at the picture on Ben Franklin on the bill, looked even closer, and
    started noticing that good old Ben resembled someone familiar other than
    himself. As I studied it even harder, I decided to see what Ben would look
    like with a haircut, and proceeded to cover up the long hair on his sides,
    and almost keeled over when I recognized JACK BENNY!!!! Yes, you all heard
    me correctly, J A C K   B E N N Y !!!!  If you don't beleive me, go out and
    find a $[removed] bill and try it. I think that's a far more important
    discovery than folding a $[removed] bill just right and discover all this time
    that George Washington is actually a [removed] old time radio community,
    I think I'm on to something really here, don't you think? :)

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:01:39 -0400
    From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Have Question, Will Seek Answer
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    Hello, All!

    I am an unabashed fan of all things HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL and of MR. Richard
    Boone. I am hoping to complete my collection of the TV episodes within this
    year and I was wondering if anyone might have the shows on DVD or VHS for me
    to purchase? I am about 80 shows short of owning the entire collection.(I have
    picked up all of the J. Dehner OTR shows already) Can anyone steer me in the
    right direction, other than Columbia House video/ DVD?

    I am also trying to find any OTR show(s) in which Boone appeared. How about
    that? Any help in this regard? I am willing to buy or trade for these
    items(within [removed] am, as I have so often pointed out, only a poor public
    school teacher.

    Thanks for any help!
    Randy Story

    [removed]
    I wonder if the Gold Index might be able to help me in the finding Boone's OTR
    shows? How does one go about finding that index online?

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    Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 00:01:03 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Internet Radio Database

    At 01:56 PM 9/6/2004, you wrote:

>     So here's my question: Why doesn't someone create the Internet Radio
>     Database (with the IMDb as a model) in order to centralize and hyperlink
>     the pool of information available from the assembled roundtable of radio
>     experts? Even if launched with only three radio series (one drama, one
>     comedy, one variety), the submission of info from expert users would
>     soon demonstrate the value. Other series could then be added on a
>     regular basis -- with a constant flow of expert user corrections and
>     additions.

    Bhob,
    This has always been a dream that I was interested in too. As you imply it
    is a tremendous undertaking requiring help from many individuals. It seems
    to me that something somewhat primitive could begin such a project and
    hopefully, it could bloom from there.  But it would require tremendouse
    research or lots of effort from various sources to begin to list items by
    Radio Play or Radio Series, by actors, etc. Sources such as the book on
    Radio Stars, log material, etc., all of which is available. However, there
    would also be copyright considerations unless one duplicates research such
    as the Radio Stars book, etc.

    I fully agree with you that it would be a tremendous resource. However,
    imdb has grown with the help of the film industry and other type sponsors
    that fund such a project. Where would funding come into a radio
    database?  Perhaps a subscription base for more detailed info?  Would it
    bring in sufficient subscribers, etc.

    For one to undertake all of this, you can begin to see the scope of such a
    project.

    However, all that said, one could certainly start a community database with
    input allowed by the old time radio community. Data would have to be
    checked as best as possible, but perhaps it would be self correcting. I am
    not sure how the imdb verifies entries from others. I added material to
    their site once for a distant relative who was a film director in the late
    20's. I had death info among others and by giving my source, which was
    information I had from the daughter of the director, they accepted it.

    So how would such a radio database be corrected?  All in all, it certainly
    seems a worthwhile idea to begin.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:02:22 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger

>     Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 16:23:15 -0400
>     From: skallisjr@[removed]

>     I recently picked up some early TV episodes of the television version
>     of The Lone Ranger.  At the end of the shows, in the credits, it notes,
>     "Adapted from the radio program.  Edited by Fran Stryker."

>     Interesting that some of the stories seem to have been recycled.

    Well, the origin story, which was told in a three-part series premier for television, was
    certainly adapted from radio version.  I don't know of any other specific radio episodes that
    were adapted for television, but, of course, the entire format, characters, theme music, etc.
    were all adapted from radio.

    But I do remember seeing some stories in the Lone Ranger Sunday comic strip that I had
    previously heard on the radio.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:02:33 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Australian Fibber McGee

    Hello, I've got an Australian episode of the Fibber McGee and Molly show,
    and I'm wondering about it. I only have one, so was this an ongoing series
    in Australia just like we had in the States, or was this just a test? The
    only person who even sounded Australian was the announcer, who called
    himself Reg Wilcox. The actor who played Fibber sounded like someone
    changing his voice to sound younger, and the actress who played Molly
    sounded much older than our Molly. Any thoughts on this episode or any other
    shows in that series? Also, did they even have Johnson's Wax over there in
    Australia?
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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    Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 11:43:29 -0400
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Early TV fictional character (Digby
     "Digger" O'Dell
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    I thought I remembered reading somewhere that John Brown, who played Digger
    and many other wonderful radio characters, was one of those who had his
    career ruind by the blacklisting of the early fifties. If so, it would make
    sense that he appeared in the earlier 'Riley' with Jackie Gleason, but not
    in the later series with Bendix. I remember seeing him on the Gleason
    series, but I didn't remember noticing that he wasn't on the later series. A
    sad loss.

    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:04:21 -0400
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Publicity Shots
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    I just received my latest CDs from the "World's Greatest Old Time Radio"
    company and one of the discs was episodes from the "Archie" series. On the
    back of the cover envelope was a picture of the cast at a party of some sort.
    Of course or old buddy Hal Stone was prominently featured. My question for
    Hal and any others is this, how often were the actors asked or told to make
    themselves available for PR shots during the course of a season?

                Larry Albert

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