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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 343

Table Of Contents: 

	 Mechanical Recording Announcement
	 Prolific People
	 Canadian Sources
	 No Credit Where Credit's Due
	 Paper collectors?
	 Re: Stan Freberg
	 Baby Rose Marie
	 WENN returns.
	 Electronically Transcribed Commercials
	 Bill Conrad
	 Baby Rose Marie
	 The Barber Family?
	 Sergeant Preston

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:15:55 -0500
From: bensmanm@[removed] (Marvin R. Bensman)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mechanical Recording Announcement
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A question was asked recently about the announcement that a program was
recorded and whether that was a legal requirement.

The FCC required all stations to announce that a program was mechanically
reproduced, [removed], "recorded" in an effort to get stations to use live
material, including music, instead of relying on recordings.

The networks and stations felt that making such an announcement indicated
the material was second-rate so for some time only live programming was
considered quality. However, when some stations such as independent WOR
started early D. J. shows, such as "Make-Believe Ballroom" they got around
the required announcement by saying such things as; "Now, here is one for
the record," and other such phrases.

The FCC in the 1970's did away with the requirement except in instances
where time is of importance.

Hope this answers the question.

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:42:52 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Prolific People
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Donald A. Tevault passes on "Jack's suggestion was to challenge the
readers of this list to come up with as many shows as possible that Bill
Conrad performed in.  Of course, we younger members remember him as
Frank Cannon and the fat man in Jake and the Fat Man."

Chet sez:  If we're gonna mention his presence on TV, we must mention
his omnipresence on _Rocky & His Friends_ and _Bullwinkle_, plus his
enormously appealing _Nero Wolfe_.  (Thayer David may have been
better, but he didn't survive his pilot by much.)  When it comes to radio, I'm
almost ready to believe that you could mention almost any OTR show and
be 86% sure that William Conrad had appeared on it.  So, just a short list
of my own would be GUNSMOKE as Cranky Matt, ESCAPE as many
people, SUSPENSE as ditto, X MINUS ONE at least in the "Mars is Heaven"
segment, the SIX SHOOTER as an evident Marshall Dillon type (but with a
son who may or may not have held up a Wells Fargo or bank office ).  He
played too many roles to specify each one - I even hear tell he was on an
Amos & Andy episode - but he never played Butch Cavendish though he
should have.

Alan Bell asks:  "Alfred Bester??? Wasn't he the magazine editor who
wrote fantasy and science fiction in the 1950s and '60s? ("The Stars My
Destination", etc.) What the heck did HE have to do with Charlie Chan?...
or is this a different Alfred Bester?"

Chet sez:  Mr Bester got around.  Like Siodmack (sp?  DONAVAN'S
BRAIN, HOUSE OF FRANKENSTEIN fellow), he was everywhere.  He
even shows up as a "villian" in a Spider Robinson "Callahan's Saloon"
story which might be titled "the Farmer's Daughter" (since I can't
remember the real title).  Not only did he do a bit of writing (and, if it's the
same fellow, casting) in radio, but he also wrote some Green Lantern
comic strips in _All-American Comics_ and I _think_ he did some work for
Fawcett on their Capt Marvel stories.  Since I read the latter in a Don
[removed] book (either _All in [removed] or _the Comic Book
Book_), I defer to Bigkid's knowledge if he answers the Bester question. 
In short, besides SF/fantasy printed prose, Alfred wrote radio and
doubled as a butler for Bruce Wayne.

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "I am not young enough to know everything."
                             ---James M. Barrie
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 16:13:22 EDT
From: claughli@[removed] (Charles Laughlin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Canadian Sources
Message-Id: <[removed]@superior>

One of you asked about Canadian traders and clubs.  There used to be a
club out of Sudbury, Ontario, but it hasn't existed for some years
now, and is the only one I have heard about.  But more important, I
have no problem getting tapes from SPERDVAC, The Radio Listeners'
Lyceum (RLL), or RHAC, all of whom have worked out plans for Canada
which understandably cost we Canadian members a bit more.  By all
means, join them and support them.  It is important of course to be
sensitive to their need to charge usmore for postage.

Charlie
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Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6               Ph: 819/459-1121
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:23:57 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: No Credit Where Credit's Due
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Someone asked why _Adventures In Odyssey_ (kinda redundant, isn't
it?) didn't credit their actors.  Curious, I called _Living Scriptures_ (it's
almost a local call from here) as _they_ didn't credit their actors on their
shows (_Dramatized New Testament_, _Dramatized History of the
Church_, etc) either.  Spoke to several people, finally reaching an
assistant to the producer, Jared Brown.  Actors signed their releases,
got their paychecks -- and that was it.  It was a non-union project, and
the ownership of the copyrights has changed a time or two -- so records
may not have been kept on this.  I'm betting that the same thing is true
with _Adventures in Odyssey_ -- audioplays such as these are often
produced on a shoestring.  In Living Scriptures' case, they put their
profits from their audiotapes into producing direct-to-video cartoons and
the profits from THAT into production of the theatrical release of _the
Swan Princess_.  Pretty much the same thing which the networks did
with their profits from Old Time Radio, come to think of it.

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "I am not young enough to know everything."
                             ---James M. Barrie
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 17:28:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: JROZGONYI <JROZGONYI@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Paper collectors?
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I'm new to OTR on the web, but have been a SPERDVAC member and collector
for a number of years now.  What I was wondering is if any has, or knows
of sources for, paper collectibles associated with OTR.  I'd really love
to get lobby cards and/or posters for the _Great Gildersleeve_ movies,
for instance, or the _Fibber McGee & Molly_ films.  Any collectors out
there obtaining this (or other general program-related ads, posters,
photos, etc.), and can you give any suggestions on where to find it?

Thanks --

Jay Rozgonyi
JROZGONYI@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 17:07:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Stan Freberg
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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> Although the series lasted only 15 shows, it demonstrated Stan's
> genius for satiric comedy.  In 1958, Capitol Records released an

I'd just like to comment on the "genius" of Stan Freberg
for those of you who aren't old enough to remember those
days.

I recently listened to some of the "Best of Stan Freberg".
He was one of my favorites in my teens.  But today, they
just didn't seem as funny as they did then, or as clever.
As I listened, I think I realized why.  Because today
everybody does the things he did then and they're not as
new and fresh.

But then, these shows were so unlike anything anyone had
ever heard, that they were genius.

Things like Laugh In and He Haw and most of the skits on
most of the TV shows since, and even, I think, Garrison
Keillor's stuff, really had its roots with Stan Freberg.
The guy really is a genius.

Barry

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:46:50 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Baby Rose Marie
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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>RE Dave's question about Rose Marie: She was a child star, but I don't
>recall
>if it was in the movies or radio. As a kid she always wore a trademark
>ribbon
>in her hair, and continued to do so as an adult. She did appear on the
>radio show
>

Rose Marie did have a radio show in 1932 (I believe) on the Blue Network.
Seems I recall reading in my Dunning that she was a singing sensation at
that time, but I would have to check my facts again.


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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:02:49 -0700
From: PETER GRECO <pgreco@[removed]>
To: radio digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: WENN returns.
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Hi,
  Good news from AMC,according to this weeks TV Guide WENN is returning
for a second [removed] Clooney,Bernadette Peters and Betty Buckley
have all expressed intrest in making guest [removed] like WENN
is starting to take [removed] would be great if they got some of the old
remaining otr actors,to make guest [removed] some letters and
e-mail to AMC could help get this idea [removed] have already sent an 
e-mail massage to AMC about using real otr [removed]

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:09:44 -0700
From: efk0490@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Electronically Transcribed Commercials
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Hi, Again!

[removed] looks as if my questions about the WJSV "America Before
Television" casettes generated a lot of comments, especially about the
musicians' union strike.  Thanks to all of you who took the time to
respond, either to the group or by e-mail; your answers made a lot of
sense and cleared up some of the mysteries in that set.

However, the question still remains before the house as to why, if a
commercial was not given "live", did the studio announcer state that the
"announcement has been electrically transcribed."  I'm particularly
curious as to whether this was some sort of FRA/FCC requirement (if so,
why and when did the requirement go away) or if it was simply common
practice at the time.   

As usual, your thoughts are welcome!

Regards

Gene K

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:19:33 -0700
From: ulrich@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bill Conrad
Message-Id: <v01540b00ae68ec556780@[[removed]]>
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In OTR Digest #342, "Donald A. Tevault" <donnie@[removed]> wrote:

>Jack's suggestion was to challenge the readers of this list to come up
>with as many shows as possible that Bill Conrad performed in.  Of
>course, we younger members remember him as Frank Cannon and the fat man
>in Jake and the Fat Man.  But, he is another one of those current TV
>actors who was quite busy in radio.

Here's my list of 83 radio programs on which Bill Conrad performed:

Action Eighty, Bold Venture, Box 13, Broadway Is My Beat, Bunko Squad,
Captain Courage, CBS Radio Workshop, Charles Boyer, Count Of Monte Cristo,
Crime Classics, Damon Runyon Theatre, Dangerous Assignment, Dark Venture,
Devil And Mr. O, Document A-777, Dr. Kildare, Dragnet, Enchanted Room,
Escape, Favorite Story, Fibber McGee And Molly, Final Edition, First
Nighter, Frontier Gentleman, Green Lama, Gunsmoke, Half Hour To Kill,
Hallmark Hall Of Fame, Halls Of Ivy, Hawke Larabee, Hermit's Cave,
Hollywood Star Playhouse, Hollywood Star Time, Inner Sanctum, Jason & The
Golden Fleece, Jeff Regan, Johnny Modero, Pier 23, Let George Do It, Let
George Do It, Line-Up, Lux Radio Theatre, Maisie, Man Called X, Man From
Homicide, Michael Shayne, Miss Sherlock, Mr. President, Night Beat,
Obsession, On Stage, Our Miss Brooks, Pat Novak For Hire, Pendleton Story,
Pete Kelly's Blues, Philip Marlowe, Philip Morris Playhouse, Point Sublime,
Remember, Richard Diamond, Rocky Jordan, Rogers Of The Gazette, Romance,
Sad Sack, Safari, Saint, Sam Spade, Screen Director's Playhouse, Screen
Guild Theatre, Silent Men, Six Shooter, Spotlight On A Star, Story Of
Gunsmoke, Strange Wills, Suspense, T-Man, Tales Of The Texas Rangers,
Theatre Of Stars, This Is Your FBI, Tums Hollywood Theatre, Voyage Of The
Scarlet Queen, Whisperer, Whistler, Yours Truly Johnny Dollar.

If anyone can list any others (with dates if possible), I'll be very happy.
I can provide details from my database if anyone is interested in the above
shows.

Also, does anyone have any episodes of Conrad's Nero Wolfe TV series on VHS?

--Charles Ulrich (the Bullwinkle expert)

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:59:46 -0400
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Baby Rose Marie
Message-ID: <960920215945_482636032@[removed]>

   There were questions about Rose Marie of the Dick Van Dyke Show on TV, and
whether she had a radio background.  Indeed she did.  I have a 1932
publication that has a short item.  It made a mistake in calling her "Little"
Rose Marie instead of "Baby" Rose Marie and the latter appelation was
correct, even being used as the name of her own radio program.  It was a
variety program on which she sang and acted.  It went on  the Blue Network in
1932.
   At any rate, the short item reads:
   "Little Rose Marie, juvenile network star was 'discovered' at the age of
three.  She is the daughter of an Italian teamster and a Polish waitress.
 The little girl has suceeded in bringing prosperity to her parents.  Her
salary at the age of five was said to be $100,000, a record for child
broadcasters."

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:19:24 -0500
From: Alecia <ramble@[removed]>
To: Digest Administrator <bill@[removed]>
Subject: The Barber Family?
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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I was hoping that some of our great OTR crowd out there would be able 
to help me with a series that I am looking for. First I would like to 
share why I am looking for this particular series. I love to listen to 
OTR and do alot of trading with my internet friends. So anyone that does 
alot of trading knows you visit the post office quite regular and get to 
know your postoffice persons on a personal level sometimes. My postal 
lady is an old fashioned grand lady. She raised her children up 
listening to all the great OTR programs. She mentioned this one 
particular show that her son used to mock everytime someone would make 
him do something he did not paricularly want to do. He would say " so 
thats how it is with The Barber Family today!" My postlady has been a 
joy to visit with. I would love to show up on her doorstep with a few 
shows of this series in tow. I do not know if this is the name of the 
show, but I do know it was a serial by her description and it was 
broadcasted from California in the 50s. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.   Thanks in advance!


Alecia Warner
Longview, Texas

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 23:33:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sergeant Preston
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:47:43 EDT
> From: inuit@[removed] (Michael R Blake)
> To: otr@[removed]
> Subject: sergeant preston
> 
> 
> Iam looking for Sgt. Preston of the Yukon fans, anyone out there?

On King!  On you huskies!

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