Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #119
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Date: 4/16/2005 4:18 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 119
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  War Of The Worlds Broadcast names of  [ Toby Dammit <dammitcentrale@earthli ]
  Johnny Dollar                         [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  LOC and OTR                           [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  Paul Henning Obit                     [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  Raymond Edward Johnson on The Goldbe  [ "Gil Miller" <gilmiller@[removed] ]
  Re: radio drama/sponsors              [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  4-15 births/.deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Deaths in March 2005                  [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Law and Order actor                   [ Clif Martin <martbart@[removed]; ]
  This Week with Walden Hughes          [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
  OSR on Today's Radio                  [ skallisjr@[removed] ]

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:33 +0000
From: Toby Dammit <dammitcentrale@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  War Of The Worlds Broadcast names of
  Cast   URGENT

Hello Mr. Smith,

My name is Lawrence Mullins.

I'm overseeing the packaging of a soundtrack to a film that is based loosely
around the evening of the original War Of The Worlds broadcast in 1938. The
production company licensed the broadcast for the film, as transmissions of
the original performance were used in the film through old radios [removed]

For the soundtrack, we've chosen to use a few excerpts from the original
broadcast as well. Surprisingly from the team who license this piece of
work, there is NO complete knowledge of who did what exactly, nor ANY true
knowledge of the music used in the broadcast.

So I've been conducting my own research, as it's a tradition with our label
to be thorough with credits and historical research. Much to my further
surprise, there's NO true documentation out there of this info anywhere
online, in books or previously issued commercial releases of The War Of The
Worlds! Outrageous.

Along my way I discovered your incredible emails here:
<[removed];

In the musical excerpts we're using there are some announcer voices that
step in and I would LOVE to credit all of these voices accurately and
correctly.

Here below are the excerpts and my best-guessed names.
Any corrections, confirmations or suggestions will be welcomed and I would
be happy to add you to our thank you list!

1. After the Mercury Theatre opening music, there's an announcer saying:
"Ladies and gentlemen the director of the Mercury Theatre and star of these
broadcasts, Orson Welles" -
I believe this person is Dan Seymour.

2. After the fade out of the first tango piece "No More", there's an
announcer saying: "Good evening ladies and gentleman - from the Meridian
room in the Park Plaza Hotel in New York City, we bring you the music of
Ramon Raquello and his orchestra. With a touch of the Spanish, Ramon
Raquello leads off with "La Cumparsita" (mispronounced!) -
I believe this person is William Alland.

3. After the conclusion of "La Cumparsita", there is an announcer saying:
"And now a tune that never loses favor; the ever popular "Stardust" -
Raymond Raquello and his orchestra" -
I believe this person is William Alland.

4.  After the first piano interlude, there's a bulletin announcing the
meteorite that crashed in New [removed] that, there's a 22 second
instrumental swing dance number performed by "Bobby Millette" at the Hotel
Martinet in Brooklyn.
No where can I find any clue of the composer of this piece nor a title.
Any ideas?
(Of course I know it's really Herrmann & the CBS radio orchestra
performing.)

5. Following the description of the first tentacled creature that rose out
of the meteor, an announcer says he'll be right back in a minute. Then
there's a short piece of Chopin piano music. It's interrupted by an
announcer saying: "We are bringing you an eyewitness account of what's
happening on the Wilmuth farm Grover's Mill, New [removed] now return you
to Carl Phillips at Grover's Mill." -
I believe this person is Dan Seymour.

6. After the report where the first man screams, there is a dramatic break
of silence in the broadcast. An announcer comes on and says: "Ladies and
gentleman due to circumstances beyond our control, we are unable to continue
the broadcast from Grover's Mill. Evidently some difficulty with our field
transmission. However, we will return to that point at our earliest
[removed] continue now with our piano interlude" -
I believe this person is Dan Seymour.

7. After the description of the rising Martian on legs by the state
militia's Captain Lansing (Kenny Delmar), there's an announcer who says:
"Ladies and gentleman I have a grave announcement to make. Incredible as it
may seem, both the observations of science and the evidence of our eyes,
lead to the inescapable assumption that those strange beings who landed in
the Jersey farmlands tonight are the vanguard of an invading army from the
planet Mars" -
I believe this person is Paul Stewart.

Sincerely,
Lawrence Mullins

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:15 +0000
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Johnny Dollar

Like a lot of folks on this list, I'm a big fan of the five-part Yours
Truly, Johnny Dollar shows starring Bob Bailey. I've listened to most
of them--my wife and I are saving about 8 for future road trips--and
I've just started going back and relistening to a bunch. Bob's closing
words on the end of each episode--"Join us, won't you?" got me
wondering about how popular the series actually was. While the shows
are well-loved today, I've never met anybody who remembers listening to
them at the time; nor are they ever mentioned on this list in that
context. Does anybody know how successful they were at the time? Did
people really manage to stay glued at the same time (what time was it
broadcast, anyway?) for five consecutive days?

In the recent discussion here on whether modern audio drama could find
a place on contemporary radio, several people have mentioned that one
challenge is people listen in their cars, and they rarely have 30
minute commutes starting and stopping at the same time every day.
Perhaps one of the few formats that would have a chance nowadays would
be something like the five part YTJDs--short serial episodes, played
during peak driving time, that would catch people's interest and leave
them wanting to hear the next one. Two main drawbacks, of course, are
a) convincing station managers to give up peak listening time to
something besides news or music, and b) getting intelligent, catchy
well-written stories that work well in serial format, are not too
padded, but have interesting characterizations and plots. (In other
words, something almost exactly like Johnny Dollar during the serial
era!)

Kermyt

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:40 +0000
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  LOC and OTR

Paul Urbahns, in the Kentucky sticks, writes:

I am glad the Library of Congress is showing an interest in OTR, but it seems
like a lot of effort for the few people (relatively speaking) that can attend.
Now if the LOC had a weekly show on NPR that would actually benefit the 
public.

Both the Library of Congress (LOC) and the National Archives (NA) are 
super-cautious regarding anything in even the most remote area of copyright 
protection. And, of course, each year Congress and the courts push more 
material into the never-to-be-public-domain category. For their 
presentation on April 20th, LOC is borrowing audio sound programs (two air 
checks, actually) from NA. To justify this presentation, LOC is using their 
prevailing theory that a library patron on the premises can listen to 
anything in their archives, (or the NA's) as long as they don't make a 
copy. So, in effect, LOC is merely playing these shows for a group of 
individual patrons, at no charge to anyone, hence no royalty problems either.

But for making [removed] an airing on NPR, fawgettttabbbout it! It 
ain't gonna happen in our lifetime.

But persistent researchers with deep pockets can occasionally pry out of 
the LOC or NA some isolated items probably still under copyright. For 
example, ace OTR researcher Karl Schadow recently discovered at the LOC a 
15 minute air check of the last (1939) episode of "Howie Wing", a kids 
flying adventure show, previously thought to be a series with no surviving 
copies. To get a copy, Karl was directed to get permission in writing from 
NBC, who aired it, as well as CBS, who produced it. Assuming both network 
legal departments grant such, Karl could then have the 15 minute episode 
copied by [removed] $70! Stay [removed]

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:58 +0000
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Paul Henning Obit

An obituary of old time radio writer Paul Henning, probably best remembered 
for Burns & Allen, from today's National Review follows.

Apparently he also had success in television.

RIP.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:22:17 +0000
From: "Gil Miller" <gilmiller@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Raymond Edward Johnson on The Goldbergs?
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I was recently listening to some Goldbergs episodes from 1942. Was that
Raymond Edward Johnson playing young Dr. Chris Cater?
Gil Miller
Florida

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:34:21 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: radio drama/sponsors
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In a message dated 4/14/05 8:18:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:

 > 3.  Even if an adult audience could be garnered, sponsors don't want
 > them.  Since Geritol and Carter's Little Liver Pills were run out of
 > town, very few sponsors want the older listeners OTR would draw.  They
 > say we are too set in our ways to be much influenced by advertising.
 >

Yeah but have you ever heard who sponsors right wing radio icons like Rush?
I've heard ads for orthopedic mattresses, etc.  Not exactly "trendy" stuff
like Bailey's or XBox.  I'm not saying OTR would attract those advertisers
either, but these guys are on every day and not in heartbeating danger of 
losing
their jobs *and* attract many of the Geritol advertisers of current day.

Dixon

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:37:06 +0000
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  4-15 births/.deaths

April 15th births

04-15-1900 - Eddie Garr - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-3-1956
actor: (Father of Teri Garr) "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
04-15-1907 - Theodore Granick - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-21-1970
moderator: "American Forum of the Air"
04-15-1915 - Hans Conried - Baltimore, MD - d. 1-5-1982
actor: Professor Kropotkin "My Friend Irma"; Schultz "Life with Luigi"

04-15-1933 - Roy Clark - Meherrin, VA
country/western singer: "Town and Country Time"

April 15th deaths

02-22-1926 - Kenneth Williams - Islington, England - d. 4-15-1988
actor:  the Snide "Hancock's Half Hour"
03-24-1910 - Richard Conte - Jersey City, NJ - d. 4-15-1975
actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Hollywood
Star Playhouse"
04-01-1886 - Wallace Beery - Kansas City, MO - d. 4-15-1949
host: "Shell Chateau"
04-17-1918 - John Hess - Chicago, IL - d. 4-15-2004
writer: "The Human Adventure"
06-02-1909 - Martin Ashe - Bradford, IL - d. 4-15-1991
actor: "Grand Central Station"
06-04-1881 - Clara Blandick - Hong Kong (on a ship in harbor) - d.
4-15-1962
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Campbell Playhouse"
07-23-1920 - Christopher Lynch - County Limerick, Ireland - d.
4-15-1994
singer: "Voice of Firestone"
09-18-1905 - Greta Garbo - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 4-15-1990
actress: "Kate Smith Show"
09-22-1915 - Arthur Lowe - Hayfield, Derbyshire, England - d.
4-15-1982
actor: Captain George Mainwaring "Dad's Army"
12-13-1939 - Moe Keale - Niihau, HI - d. 4-15-2002
local disc jockey
12-15-1926 - Rose Maddox - Boaz, AL - d. 4-15-1998
country singer: "Faron Young Show"; "Country Hoedown"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:37:15 +0000
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Deaths in March 2005

04-05-1911 - Martin Denny - NYC - d. 3-2-2005
orchestra leader: Live radio show for Alaskan Air Force Command Radio
10-27-1918 - Teresa Wright - NYC - d. 3-6-2005
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
06-10-1921 - Chuck Thompson - Palmer, MA - d. 3-6-2005
sportscaster: Baltimore Orioles, Baltimore Colts
07-11-1943 - Tommy Vance - Oxford, England - d. 3-6-1005
presenter: Radio 1
02-16-1904 - George F. Kennan - Milwaukee, WI - d. 3-17-2005
post world war two diplomat: "Meet the Press"
05-05-19xx - Ted Brown - d. 3-20-2005
announcer: "Magic Carpet"; "Hobby Lobby"; "Scout About Town"
09-15-1924 - Bobby Short - Danville, IL - d. 3-21-2005
singer: Sang on Chicago radio at beginning of his career
09-16-1911 - Paul Henning - Independence, MO - d. 3-25-2005
writer: "Burns and Allen"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:38:08 +0000
From: Clif Martin <martbart@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Law and Order actor

In a "Law and Order" episode earlier this week, a distinguished older 
fellow with a most distinctive voice and delivery played the role of 
crooked attorney Fogg.  I missed the opening credits, but he has to be 
either an old time radio actor or from the movies when voices 
mattered.   Anybody here know who who is? While thinking about TV actors, 
is Allison Janney of  "West Wing" related to Leon?

Janman30

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:38:38 +0000
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This Week with Walden Hughes

Heard live via the internet at [removed] at 7:30 pm  PDT Friday ,
Saturday and Sunday .

Saturday 4-16-05

A.  we will start playing  on the Saturday night show the series called
"Radio'S  Golden Age"  starting with the first show with guest comedy writer
Stanley Quinn

B.  to celebrate 70th  birthday of Fibber Mc Gee and Molly we will play one of
Frank Bresee's  interviews  with Jim Jordan

C.  two of Bing Crosby shows

D.  John Dunning interview with NBC news broadcaster John McVane

E.  OTR like One Man Family, quiz Kids, Information Please, ect

Sunday 4-17-05

A.  Laura Leff presents  Jack Benny of 4-1-45

B.  Mike Biel

C.  OTR like Phil Harris and Alice Faye, Are Miss Brooks, Lux Radio Theater,
Great Gildersleeve, and Fibber McGee and Molly

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:39:03 +0000
From: skallisjr@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OSR on Today's Radio

Gary Dixon, speaking of current radio programming, asks,

 > Here's the really big question.  Could a radio station program a half
 > hour show in drive time (5-9AM and 3-7pm)  and get listeners along with
 > advertisers.  The answer is YES!  Is there a broadcaster (or broadcast
 > group) brave enough to try?  The answer:  When the price of gas rolls
 > back to a $[removed] a gallon!

Old-Style Radio (OSR) would be perfect for drive time.  However, for
maximum effectiveness, one has to factor in the "time compression" effect
of dramatic radio.  One can cover nearly twice the information content on
radio than on television or film.  The ideal format, IMHO, would be
15-minute serial for each show.  Serial format would induce people to
tune in for the next episode.  It also allows for plot complexities
unavailable in a half-hour show.

Does that mean that there's no place for a half-hour show?  No.  But I'm
considering the popularity in drive time.  A continuing story that spans
at least a week would work better for those stuck in traffic each way,
giving listeners something to look forward to, and not miss anything.

I suspect that two 15-minute serials per half-hour would work better than
one half-hour complete show in the same time slot.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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