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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2006 : Issue 47
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: Theatre Five [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Hawaii Calls [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
Re: WJSV [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
Breakfast of Champion and other triv [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
Bullseye: Apples are apples, and Ora [ Wich2@[removed] ]
complete broadcast day [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
Re: Hawaii Calls [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
Radio Transcriptions for Sale [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
rare recordings available on line - [ Grams46@[removed] ]
MikeWallace &Chicago radio [ Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed]; ]
Altman film celebrates radio [ Michael Berger <makiju@[removed]; ]
re: Cincinnati Convention [ Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@yahoo. ]
Champion [ Richard Olday <raolday@[removed]; ]
"Adventures of Champion" [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
Re: WABC and Theater Five [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:33:18 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Theatre Five
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In a message dated 2/13/06 8:19:11 AM Central Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
Remember at the time this aired Sci-Fi was very popular with the
younger and older generations. The kids had stuff like Star Trek and the
older folks had books. Plus remember a little film called 2001?
...But I thought "Theatre Five" predated "Star Trek" and I know it predated
"2001." Perhaps it was ahead of its time?
Dixon
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:33:48 -0500
From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
To: Old Radio <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Hawaii Calls
A teacher asked where to get Hawaii Calls episodes. You can listen to
archived recordings of the radio shows at the Hawaii Calls Hawaiian Music
page, [removed]. You can capture the audio
stream using a program like Total Recorder.
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:34:28 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: WJSV
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I love the broadcasts of WJSV. Think about a full day of today's radio, and
you will gain a new understanding of how difficult, and interesting,
broadcasting in those days really was. I still recall trying to listen to Tom
Mix,
and there would be transmission difficulties, and as a result, I might miss
the
whole episode for that day. How many times is a station off the air now
other than for scheduled upgrades to their equipment, or power outages, which
are
extremely rare today because of emergency generators.
Love him, or hate him, Arthur Godfrey was a consummate entertainer. The
little local stuff, like announcing birthdays over the air, and suggesting to
some child that they look behind the radio for a surprise. The ad for Arrow
Beer. Just ten cents a bottle. The Pepsi ad which told of it's "fruit"
flavor. I
had no idea Pepsi ever advertised it's self as a fruit tasting drink. The
commercials alone are priceless. Arthur's singing bits and pieces of popular
songs of the day. Now, I admit the music interludes are tedious for me as I
am
not a big fan of music of the twenties, and thirties. Too sweet for my
tastes.
I suppose I am one of those "geeks" that love old radio minutia, and revel
in the glory of the "Old Time Radio" days.
Viva WJSV. I'll take it any day to anything modern radio has to dish up.
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:35:22 -0500
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Breakfast of Champion and other trivia
Of The Adventures of Champion, Charlie North inquires:
Does anyone know anything about this show at all?
Not much. A quick perusal of Hickerson's current guide suggests that the
program aired for a quarter-hour over MBS on Mondays from January 1949 (no
specific date) through Nov. 19, 1949. It also states at least three of the
episodes are in circulation.
>From my own book, Radio Crime Fighters ([removed]), The Adventures
of
Champion was one of multiple spinoffs of the Gene Autry radio series: it
turned
up on CBS-TV from Sept. 30, 1955-Feb. 3, 1956.
I own a tape of an Arthur Godfrey Time morning show in which Autry visited the
Old Redhead one day at his CBS studio (which I believe was not on the ground
floor, possibly in a basement or higher up). He brought along one of
Champion's
offspring, as I remember (without going back to hear the tape). That must
have
been an interesting elevator ride.
Jim Cox
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:36:27 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bullseye: Apples are apples, and Oranges are
oranges!
From: Jodie Peeler <raisingirl@[removed];
I think you have to look at these kinds of things --
the WJSV recording, the CBS 11/22/63 recordings, etc. -- as time
capsules that capture both the moments of excitement and the hours and
hours of the mundane, and that's part of what makes me compelled by them
Dear Jodie-
Thanks very much, for concisely making a statement that I've been trying to
formulate for days!
For those posters who originally responded to this topic as a lioness
defending her cubs, I can only say that for my part, I never said that the
vintage
broadcast material wasn't INTERESTING, for the reasons Jodie described.
But that is NOT the same thing as saying that it was all INTRINSICALLY
well-done, by writing/performing/producing standards.
Bernadette and I listened to a game show that Lister Max Schmid foisted on -
oops, I meant "offered to" - his listeners last night. I grew up a TV Kid,
in the Golden Age of the 60's, and I assure you, it was fully as craptacular
as any show from that medium and era!
BUT, fun to hear, as a window in to the time.
Best,
-Craig
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:22:22 -0500
From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: complete broadcast day
I might as well contribute my own nickel on this subject.
Any complete broadcast day is going to appeal to different audiences at
different times. The ladies wanted their soaps in the afternoons then just
as they do on TV now. The children wanted their after school programming.
Some were mainly interested in news, while others wanted entertainment to
help pass the time of day as they did their regular household chores. That's
why it was called broadcasting, they intended to reach a wide audience
through out the day.
It is difficult for me to imagine what it must have been like in those days,
having live programming in your home on a regular basis. No trip to the
theatre or dance hall involved. Even canned music on records was still
fairly new at the time, when radio offered real folks speaking, or singing,
or playing, live as it happened. We take 24/7/365 entertainment for granted
these days, but it was a very new wrinkle at that time. Imagine if you could
have told someone in that period that we would one day have hundreds of
satellite channels on our large screen TVs. You would have been locked away.
So is it boring to us? Yes, but so is modern radio and TV if you try to
listen/watch it in its entirety for 24 hours. That wasn't how it is intended
to be used then or now. I'm glad such a fascinating document has survived.
If nothing else, it proves that in some ways, our lives have not changed so
much after all.
js
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:45:07 -0500
From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Hawaii Calls
A Google search brought up the following:
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Shows are available for download or purchase.
Al Girard
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:45:48 -0500
From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Radio Transcriptions for Sale
Just a quick reminder that the second mailing of the First Generation Radio
Archives Disk Sales Newsletter will be going out on February 15th, offering
about 150 16" radio transcription disks for sale at low minimum bid prices.
This is the second in a series of monthly sales fliers that the Archives
will be issuing from now on.
If you've already written us an e-mail asking to be added to our
subscription list, don't worry -- you'll receive your copy of the newsletter
as requested. (If you don't, check your SPAM filter -- those pesky little
things sometimes block the mail you *want* to receive more than the mail you
*don't*!)
If you haven't yet signed up for a subscription, you can quickly do so by
visiting our website at:
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All sorts of disks will be offered -- truly something for almost every
taste -- so, if you're interested in 16" disks or old time radio in general,
be sure to sign up today. We know you'll like what you see.
Thanks and best always --
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"Preserving Radio's Past for the Future"
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:57:47 -0500
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: rare recordings available on line -
1890-1920's
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peace from kathy
support our troops; end the war
john 3:16
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:59:55 -0500
From: Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MikeWallace &Chicago radio
There's a photo of Mike Wallace rehearsing for a radio
broadcast with two other Chicago radio men in about
1950, on page 223 in the book below. The photo
accompanies an essay by Wallace titled "Getting
Started in Chicago".
If any of you have access to the book (library,
bookstore, etc.) and can identify those two men,
please contact me off-list. Thanks.
Maybe Chuck Schaden (who also wrote a piece in the
book) or Sandy Singer recognizes those persons?
"Chicago in the Fifties: Remembering Life in the Loop
and the Neighborhoods" by Neal Samors & M. Williams;
2005. Info at:
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-- Phil C.
pchavin@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:49:50 -0500
From: Michael Berger <makiju@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Altman film celebrates radio
from a Hollywood Reporter review:
"Not since Woody Allen's "Radio Days" has anyone
created such a cinematic Valentine to the wonderfully
imaginative medium of radio as "A Prairie Home
Companion." Garrison Keillor, impresario, creator and
host of one of radio's longest running programs -- 31
years and counting -- and director Robert Altman are a
match made in heaven. To these two Midwesterners, the
region's dry, whimsical humor, unfailing politeness
and straight-shooting sensibility are as natural as
their own skins. There is no artifice or slickness
here, just a native, keen intelligence that slyly
hides behind homespun wit and verbal slapstick."
full review at this link:
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Michael Berger
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:34:50 -0500
From: Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re: Cincinnati Convention
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Twenty years is a long time to hold an old-time radio convention, and though
so many of us try to urge new faces to attend, this year, it's crucial. If
the Cincinnati convention ceases to exist, we'll see 1/3rd of the annual
old-time radio conventions in the country come to an end, and that would be a
real shame. I know that there are some readers who have purposely stayed
away from attending conventions for one reason or another, but I strongly
urge you to break that practice and attend Cincinnati this year.
The Old-Time Radio Convention as a whole is a critical part of our hobby.
If you really want your collection of shows to grow, these are the best
places to really get large amounts of them, because so many dealers attend
with many of their newest discoveries, and you'll find people selling on any
imaginable format. If you like premiums autographs, vintage movies and TV
shows, comics and pulp novels, you'll find many of them there as well. The
guests are always friendly and easy to talk to, and the re-creations are
always top notch.
But this is a convention, so the best reason to attend is the
conventioneers! I'm yet to find anyone who doesn't have a great time at one
of these events because there are so many friendly faces. You can talk to
literally anyone there, because we all have at least one thing in common and
that's a love of radio and a desire to see it preserved.
You don't make money from holding an event like this, and I think we owe it
to anyone who gives something like this a shot to do what we can to help them
out. Often times their out of pocket expense depends on how many people
attend the Saturday night dinner which is exactly why my wife and I make it a
point to be present for that event. Besides, we always want to see which of
our friends and acquaintances will win one of the several awards presented.
Things always get a little emotional then, and it never fails to remind me of
what an amazing hobby this is.
I'm very thankful of what Bob Burchett and Robert Newman have done by
putting together this convention every year for the last twenty years.
Without it, I'm sure I'd not be as involved in the hobby as I am now, nor
would I have several of the good friends that I have now. If you've never
been in Cincinnati on the third weekend of April before, please come and see
us. If you're one of those who have skipped attending the last few years,
please come and join in on the 20th Anniversary fun (it's the biggest guest
list yet!), and if you are a regular attendee, please get some flyers and try
to spread the word and get a friend or two to come with you. Imagine what an
amazing weekend it would be if every one of us who was at the convention last
year brought one friend along with us! Personally, I think Bob and Robert
deserve it.
Rodney Bowcock
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:44:06 -0500
From: Richard Olday <raolday@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Champion
Charlie North asked about Champion. I have one show
from this series which was called the Adv. of
Champion. This series was about Gene Autry's horse and
according to Jay Hickerson's Ultimate History, it
aired from 1/49 - 11/19/1949 on Mutual as a 15 min.
show. I also seem to recall a Champion comic book from
that period of time or into the early 50's. I hope
this is the series Charlie asked about.
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:58:38 -0500
From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: "Adventures of Champion"
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"Champion", also known as "The Adventures of Champion" and "Gene Autry's
Champion" was heard in the summer of 1949 as a summer replacement for Captain
Midnight. It was a 15 min. serial just as shows in that format were
disappearing in favor of the complete story in half an hour. From memory
only, it featured a young boy and his old timer uncle who were friendly with
Champion, leader of a wild horse herd who came and went and let the boy
(Ricky?) ride him.
The story was apparently a prequel to a time before Gene Autry found Champ and
made him his partner. Gene never appeared. At first, the show was credited
as "produced by Gene Autry", then it was changed to "produced by Gene Autry
productions". There was a comic book by Dell using this format and character
names. There was a TV series starring Champion, with a different format
featuring Jim Bannon and Kirk Alyn, my best friend for a number of years, as a
newspaper editor. I remember him telling me about talking to Bannon. "Why
bother so hard acting, Jim? We've got a trick horse, a cute little kid, a
cute old man with a trick donkey. Who the hell is going to look at us?"
I have one radio episode on reel to reel I haven't played in twenty
years.
The radio show along with a fifteen minute show where Curley Bradley only
sang songs filled the summer before the fall of 1949 began half-hour complete
stories of Curley as Tom Mix on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and of Captain
Midnight on Tuesday and Thursday. Midnight only lasted until just after
Christmas, replaced by still more episodes of Bobby Benson's B-Bar-B Riders.
Even though the Tom Mix show had the highest ratings it had ever had in 1950,
Ralston cancelled to go to TV and radio with Space Patrol. "Champion" ended
with an announcement like that of a number of other radio series (Buck Rogers
comes to mind) to watch your newspapers for an announcement of when the show
would return to the air. Of course, it never returned and soon all the shows
like it were gone as well.
JIM HARMON
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:58:56 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: WABC and Theater Five
Art Chimes questioned the idea that the ABC flagship station WABC did not
carry 'Theater Five'. My primary source was the Nov 22, 1964 NY Times
obituary for the show's producer, Ed Byron, Quoting from the obit: "For
ABC he produced a series called 'Theater Five'. This is not broadcast in
the New York area; ABC supplies it to affiliates who schedule it to fit
their own needs."
I know I'm repeating myself but just gathering the info together in some
logical way to argue that WABC never did broadcast "Theater Five"
Additional support is the fact the radio logs in the NY Times do not list
'Theater Five' as ever being broadcast on WABC. The first appearance of
'Theater Five' in the radio listings is for WJRZ in June 1965 (not an
affiliate, but it is reported they 'purchased the shows from ABC). In a
Jack Gould column in the NY Times Jul 11, 1965 praising the series he
mentions that 260 episodes had been completed by that time and that producer
Lee Bowman said they were taking a breather. . I checked Jerry Haendiges log
and found he had a complete log of 260 episodes, starting Aug 3, 1964. and
ending July 30, 1965, suggesting the breather was the end of the series.
Another comment in Gould's column kind of addresses the WABC question. He
says: "The American Broadcasting Company Radio network, which in no way is
to be confused with the company's local rock 'n' roll outlet, WABC,
commendably underwrote the venture, which is entitled 'Theater Five.' "
These are my only sources of info on WABC
Incidentally, instead of broadcasting one daily show M-F WJRZ broadcast five
half-hour 'Theater Five' programs at a time, once a week, following the
'Lone Ranger'.
In Chicago the program was on Sunday evening from 5:00-6:00 on WLS-FM,
beginning Oct 1965. Two episodes were broadcast.
A few of the actors who appeared on 'Theater Five' are: Elaine May, Arlene
Francis, Mel Allen, Martha Scott, Bethel Leslie, Martin Gabel, Mildred
Dunnock, Joan Lovejoy, Wendy Barrie, Eileen Heckart, David Burns, Sammy
Davis Jr. (who is quoted as saying 'I like to do radio - it's color blind')
These names appeared in columns by Gould in the NY Times and Wolters in the
Chicago Trib.
--Irene
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