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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 141


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Stan Freberg USA
	 Re: Stan Freberg Presents the USA
	 Re: Dunning's Book
	 Holy Mackerel there, Andy
	 discount tapes, museums & such
	 Henry Morgan and his sponsors
	 Re:THE LONE RANGER
	 Benny routine answer

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Date: 17 Apr 96 22:13:17 EDT
From: FinanceGuy <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "'[removed] digest'" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Stan Freberg USA
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Reading from the cover of the album:
Stan Freberg presents The United States of America
Vol. 1 The Early Years
Words and Music by Stan Freberg
Sketches by Stan Freberg and Ken Sullet
Music Arranged and  conducted by Billy May
Narrated by Paul Frees
Featuring Jesse White with the Jud Conlon SIngers AND
Peter Leeds, Byron Kane, Colleen collins, Helen Kleeb, Shep Menken, Walter
Tetley, Marvin Miller, June Foray, Barney Phillips, Maurice Dallimore, Peter
Forster, John Frank

Sound Effects by Jimmy Macdonald
Tap Dancing by Maurice Kelly
Capital Records  SM-1573
Looked all over for a copyright date, found none. But a best guess from reading
the liner would be 1961.
I think that it has been reissued on CD, and there are rumors (mere rumors) that
Vol. 2 is in the works. Let's hope.
JohnB.

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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:11:30 -0400
From: GOpp@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Stan Freberg Presents the USA
Message-ID: <960417231130_193348014@[removed]>

I attended the March "Nostalgia Night" meeting of Pacific Pioneer 
Broadcasters in Hollywood, at which the speaker was June Foray.  She 
mentioned that recently, while she was recuperating from hip surgery, 
Stan Freberg called her to ask her if she could come down and record Part 
2 of "Stan Freberg Presents the [removed]"  Foray said she told him, "if 
you'll have a wheelchair waiting for me at the studio, I'll be there," 
and they went ahead with the recording session.  It should be out later 
this year.

- Gregg Oppenheimer

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 02:52:22 -0500
From: Bill Sabis <bilsab@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Dunning's Book
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello Again to OTR Fans

I've been off the service for the better part of a year and have lost 
touch with what's happening.

Did John Dunning ever release his OTR book scheduled for 1995?

Bill Sabis

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 08:56:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Ouzts <jouzts@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Holy Mackerel there, Andy
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

My point was that a 4X markup was a stretch.  I purposefully included the 
disclaimer that I would not criticize a price until I knew overhead.
With my low volume purchses cassettes, labels, hardboxes, liners, time,
labor, amortizing of gear, and the whole shooting match, I can produce a 
two episode, 62-minute made-in-USA very-low-noise cassette for about 
six-bits and a 3 episode 92-minute one for about a dollar.  If I were to 
mark those puppies up by 4X my cost, Mr. Benny would most certainly 
approve and smile, but I'd have a heck of a time sleeping at night.  
Let me make it clear, I am not a VENDOR.  I have no COMMERCIAL INTERESTS.
I a expressing a position that a good many, if not the majority of the 
non-commercial collectors appear to agree with herein.  Absolutely 
nothing is meant to be directed toward any individual or group.  Charge 
what the market will bear--that's the American Way.

But I'm one of those old knuckleheads who was around to hear a lot, if 
not most, of what on OTR now when it was first aired.  OTR is a loved one 
whom I hate to see exploited.

Jim Ouzts

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:13:44 -0400
From: FabFicBks@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: discount tapes, museums & such
Message-ID: <960418111343_377857134@[removed]>

Hi Everybody,
     Bob Burnham had a long comment about the practice of dealers at the
Cinncinnati convention dumping their tapes the last hours of the show for as
little as a buck each.  His comments on the quality of a dollar tape miss the
point entirely.
     First, these are exactly the same tapes that dealers were previously
selling for three or four bucks.  The dealers in question had a clearance
sale the last hour or so before the end of the con so they wouldn't have to
bother taking stuff back with them.
     I agree, from the standpoint of a dealer, that this is stupid.  After
expending money for material, time and effort to generate tapes, selling them
at or below cost strikes me as being ridiculious.
     My rule of thumb at any kind of convention or show I do, radio or
science fiction or comic show, is that whatever you bring in to the show,
you'd better be prepared to take out with you in case business is aweful.
 Now, it's much better if people buy goodies from you, and that in the
repacing process many empty boxes can be left behind as merchandise has been
translated into money, but sometimes that doesn;t happen in the ratio I'd
like to see, and invariabily, at any show I've ever done, some stuff is left
over.      I don't have a last minute clearance sale, since my attitude is
that the stuff will sell someplace else, at another time.  This kind of
practice also makes people who bought stuff from you at full price feel like
chumps, and they tend to resent it.  In addition, it also encourages people
to hang around until the last few minutes of a show hoping they can scrape up
material at giveaway prices instead of making intelligent decisions thruout
the show based on their preferences and their spending budgets.
     Having so said, and saying again that I think dealers who are too lazy
to pack up their wares and carry them back with them after a convention is
over are idiots, the point is that these were not bargan brand cassetttes
being sold by those dealers.  This was exactly the same merchandise which had
been offered during the rest of the show at full price.  The tirade against
poor quality merchandise does not apply here.
     If Bob wants to rand against the stupidity of dealers who engage in this
dumping practice fouling the waters for serious collectors during the earlier
hours of the show, or making it tougher for legitimate dealers who attempt to
maintain the stability of their price structure whether there is a convention
going on or not, then I totally agree.  But let's not confuse the core issues
here.
     On another subject, comments about the museum of broadcasting and other
museums, pointing out that they are poorly funded, lack storage resources,
etc etc may all be true, but they also avoid the core situation, which is
thast material given to such museums is usually biried forever, and then
cannot be accessed again by collectors, researchers or casual interested
hobbyists.
     The solution was pointed out by a person whose name I forgot to jot
down, namely, don't give the originals of anything to a museum.  Let them
copy your stuff, photostat your documents, and then demand the originals back
in a resaonable and timely fashion.  Keep material, particularly radio shows,
circulating in this hobby so that people who care about this hobby will have
access to it.
     I have a  long list of horror stories about radio personalities and
technitians who donated material to museums and universities, only to have it
swallowed up forever.  In many cases the libraries or museums even refused to
let the donator have access to their own stuff!  To hell with these people!
 If they want copies, let them have copies, but circulate the stuff thru this
hobby.
     Toward that end, there are many clubs within this hobby, including the
one I am associated with, the Radio Collectors of America, (a New England
based organization that is one of the oldest contineously operating clubs in
the hobby), which will accept donations, preserve, copy and make this
material available to club members and interested researchers.  Sperdav, NARA
and others also fill this bill.  If stuff has to go to an oprganization
because of death, lack of storage facilities or whatever, make it an
organization within the hobby that serves the hobby and will keep the
material available to members of the hobby.  Othwerwise you might have well
take the stuff and toss it onto a bonfire.

---Bob Jennings

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:18:53 GMT
From: rwright@[removed] (Richard Wright)
To: otr@[removed], heronimous@[removed]
Subject: Henry Morgan and his sponsors
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:35:14 -0500
>From: Mark Reesor <heronimous@[removed]>

>1/ I have parts of one show by Henry (?) Morgan where 
>he does a hilarious send-up of his sponsor (Schick Eversharp 
>Razors -- "don't just rush out and buy one, think it over"). I 
>understand he used to do this quite frequently and the sponsor 
>learned to love it because sales increased. Does anyone know
> anything more about him -- I'd love to know more -- and where
> one can get his shows.

>From _The Big Broadcast 1920 - 1950_ by Frank Buxton and Bill Owen--

The Henry Morgan Show 

His first shows were on for fifteen minutes in the early evening on
WOR New York, and he would play crazy records from his own collection
and give his sponsors the needle. His penchant for satirizing even his
own sponsors often cost him their patronage. Among the earlier
sponsors were Adler Elevator Shoes, which was ripe for Morgan's
kidding, and Life Savers, which Morgan claimed were "mulcting the
public" because of the hole in the center. A later sponsor was Shick
Injector Razors, whose slogan was "Push, pull, click, click---change
blades that quick." At one point Morgan referred to the the slogan as
"Push, pull, nick, nick." He once started the program by announcing
that Shick had called him on the carpet because sales were dropping,
implying that his show was the reason. Morgan announced, "Frankly, I
don't think it's my show. I think it's their razor!" 

>From _Tune in Yesterday_ by John Dunning

The Henry Morgan Show

Of his early sponsors, Alder Elevator Shoes---the company with its
"Now you can be taller than she is" slogan--was most vulnerable to
Morgan's barbs. Company president Jesse Alder became known to Morgan's
listeners as "Old Man Adler." Once Morgan followed a spot claiming
that Adlers could add two inches to a man's height with speculation on
what would happen to a man's pants in such a miracle. Other early
advertising victims were Shell Oil and Ionized Yeast.

[Not sure whether the shoes were Alder or Adler since it is spelled
both ways in the same paragraph]

In one early show, he ribbed Life Savers for cheating the public by
drilling holes in its candy; he offered to peddle the holes as
"Morgan's Mint Middles." Morgan's fans thought this outrageously
funny. Life Savers people just thought it outrageous. The following
morning the candy company canceled its sponsorship.

...Then, on September 3, 1946, ABC brought Morgan coast to coast, in
what was for him an elaborate production, airing his _Henry Morgan
Show_ Wednesday nights in 1946.  ...But after three shows on a
sustaining basis, the Eversharp Company decided to bite the bullet and
sponsor _The Henry Morgan Show_ for Shick ("push-pull, click, click")
razors and blades. Morgan had a field day with their spots.
   Shick dropped the show December 3, 1947, citing flab in Morgan's
material, low ratings and declining sales as the reason. In typical
form, Morgan had his own ("It's not my show; it's their razor")
explanation for his audience. He was subsequently picked up by Rayve
Cream Shampoo, which he mercilessly drubbed even in a guest appearance
on The Fred Allen Show. Morgan's final series was on NBC in 1949-50 ,
a Sunday-night show sponsored by Bristol-Myers.
-------------
Richard
aka rwright@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 12:50:21 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:THE LONE RANGER
Message-ID: <960418125020_472805339@[removed]>

THE LONE RANGER is now owned by BROADWAY VIDEO. Fred Foy and I did an
album (CD and Cassette) about his days at WXYZ and about other activity there
too,
<<TOM HEATHWOOD>> HERITAGE RADIO, PO BOX 16, BOSTON, MA 02167

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 12:55:48 -0500
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed], Marty_Dzik@[removed]
Subject: Benny routine answer
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Marty wrote,
>I'm assuming that everyone who knows of OTR and Jack Benny remembers Jack's
>"Si, Sy" routine.  However, I remember hearing a take-off of that using
>another letter of the alphabet besides "S".

There's a JB program in which he and Mel Blanc do that same routine with
Mel as French and the word in question being "oui."  I don't remember which
episode but I have it somewhere in my collection - and it is such a scream
that Mel barely makes it through the exchange, much less Jack.

John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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