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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 111


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Re: Premiums and Tombusch guide!   
	 Morton Gould
	 YUSA
	 Periodic reminder for new folks
	 Ukelele Ike/Ruth Lyons
	 A Thank you & A search for something
	 First radio broadcast
	 re: Ovaltine

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 96 17:31:46 PST
From: robertm@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Premiums and Tombusch guide!   
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Lee Levan <[removed]@[removed]> wrote:

>>In issue 107, Bob Jennings remarked that the best source for information on
>>radio premiums is the Tomart Radio Premium guide (officially, Tomart's Price
>>Guide to Radio Premium and Cereal Box Collectibles, ISBN 0-914293-14-1). 
>>He's absolutely right; it's the bible of radio premium collectors and 
>>contains more information on radio premiums than any other source.  The 
>>latest version is a softback, copyright 1991 and lists for [removed]; it may 
>>still be in print (try Tomart Publications, [removed] 292102, Dayton, OH 
>>45429) and I've never seen it for more than list.

If you are looking for this and can not still get it from Tomart, you can
get it from:   
Blystone's
2132 Delaware Ave Dept TS
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412/371-3511
Fax: 412/244-8028

They have a Website at:
[removed]

They list it for $21 (plus shipping which seems to be $[removed] - ouch!)

BTW: I have no relation to Blystone's - just passin' on the info!
Oh, and I believe they take credit cards.

>>So that's why I'm hoping the upcoming Hake's guide will give us all a
>>reasonable starting place from which to determine the value of a given 
>>radio premium. The interest in Old Time Radio that seems to be increasing 
>>all the time, due in no small part to our host, this digest and his web 
>>site, can only send already high prices higher.

Well, I am dubious of a Hake's guide, in that it has been my experience
Hake's tends to list things higher (sometimes much higher) than realistic
(possibly to legitimize the above market prices they have been known to
charge?  My own conspiratorial theory there :)  ).  But it will probably
have some nifty pictures, as does the Tombusch guide!

I, too, recommend the Tombusch guide.  It is a neat book, even though the
prices *are* outdated now.  Just if you get Hake's, be leary of what is 
listed (just from past experience), and be prepared to subtract from 
that value.

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:06:07 -0500
From: martyj@[removed] (Martin Jukovsky)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Morton Gould
Message-Id: <v02130500ad7b760b77bb@[[removed]]>

The American composer Morton Gould, who died recently, wrote the Cresta
Blanca radio commercial (C-R-E-S-T-A B-L-A-N-C-A, Cresta Blanca, di-dah
da-dah).

Martin Jukovsky
Cambridge, Mass.

martyj@[removed]

            ****************************************************
            --listen:there's a hell
            of a good universe next door;let's go
                       --e. e. cummings
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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:51:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Kinsler <kinsler@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: YUSA
Message-Id: <[removed]@bobcat>

Hi: I have managed to lose the file which tells how we might get our 
Athens government TV cable channel to carry YUSA as background audio 
instead of the space music we seem to have now.  Could someone send said 
information to me again?  Thanks.  
                                  Mark Kinsler
                                  kinsler@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:48:10 -0600
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Periodic reminder for new folks
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

With apologies to the folks who have read this note before ...

New OTR Digest readers may find answers to their perennial questions by
checking some of the WWW sites with OTR info.  Stations currently
broadcasting OTR, program logs, sound bytes, graphical images, an OTR FAQ,
pointers to private traders and commercial vendors, and megabytes more
information are available at an increasing number of WWW sites.  One place
to start is [removed]

Subscribers with only email access to the net can get instructions on how to
get WWW pages delivered to them, by reading the document:

                Accessing The Internet By E-Mail
          Doctor Bob's Guide to Offline Internet Access

    This document is now available from several automated mail servers.
    To get the latest edition, send e-mail to one of the addresses below.

    To: mail-server@[removed] (for US, Canada & South America)
    Enter only this line in the BODY of the note:
    send [removed]

    To: mailbase@[removed] (for Europe, Asia, etc.)
    Enter only this line in the BODY of the note:
    send lis-iis [removed]


Since the OTR FAQ is an "official" FAQ, a copy of it is stored at
MIT, and is available from the MIT mailserver.  For more info on
how to get files by email from MIT, send a message
     TO: mail-server@[removed]
     SUBJECT: [blank]
     BODY:
          help
          end

Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 02:27:26 -0500 (EST)
From: JACKBENNY@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ukelele Ike/Ruth Lyons
Message-id: <01I2QMGKK29E9BZ1W9@[removed]>

There will probably be many messages about this, but the Ukelele Ike that I
am familiar with was Cliff Edwards, who is probably best known for being the
voice of Jiminy Cricket in Disney's _Pinnochio_.  He was a well-known 
performer in his own right, and I have several 78s of his work.  I also just
saw him the other night doing "Singing in the Rain" at the beginning of
_That's Entertainment!_, an exerpt I believe from _Hollywood Revue of 1929_
(I should know that, since Jack appeared in the same [removed], _Broadway
Melody_ -- just looked it up).

---Ruth Lyons-----
Gracious [removed]'t heard someone outside of my own family mention Ruth
Lyon's name in a LONG time!  Side note - her show was originally "the 50
Club", because just 50 lucky people would get in to see her show every day.
When the popularity grew, it became "The 50-50 Club", and 100 people would get
in.  I have (but have not read) her autobiography entitled (as I recall))
_Remember With Me_, and stumbled across a Christmas album featuring all the
notables from her show, and mostly Christmas songs that she herself had
written.  Also found a record [removed]'t remember his name, but can
see his [removed] of the main men on her show, fellow had sort of an odd
upper [removed] he sang several standards on this album.  Help!  Now it's
going to bother me until I remember his name.

---Positive atmosphere---
I'll second the emotion for the positive atmosphere of late here!

--Laura Leee
International Jack Benny Fan Club

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 02:42:40 EST
From: DFEQ02A@[removed] (MR JOSEPH ANDOLINA JR)
To: OTR@[removed]
Subject: A Thank you & A search for something
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

First,  I'd like to thank those of you who responded to me about my 
concern about Real Audio 1 & 2.
If I haven't emailed whoever you are back personally, I would like to 
apologize for that.  I in error deleted some email before having a 
chance to respond.  It will be interesting to see what direction RA 
will be going,  and how it will be perfected down the line.  I would 
love to see more OTR & new drama available via the internet!

Also,  speaking of drama,  is there anybody out there who has any 
good copies of The BBC World Theatre syndicated series from the '60's 
& early '70's?  They usually consisted of a weekly drama any where 
from 60 min. to 3 hrs. featuring a lot of stories from the classics.  
I used to listen to it on National Educational Radio way back when,  
and enjoyed them very much.  My only regret is I never taped them 
back then.
I'm willing to trade or purchase in order to get my hands on some.  I 
do have American OTR to trade as well as a nice selection of BBC 
productions.  Please email me if you're out there,  or even 
interested in BBC drama.

Thanx,

Joe (DFEQ02A@[removed])

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:46:44 EST
From: TBARNETT@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: First radio broadcast
Message-Id: <m0u1Bfd-000Y6NC@[removed]>

To: SMTP    --AHIPC2S

From:    Tom Barnett

Subject: First radio broadcast

1. Does anybody know - or may make an assessment - how many listeners
received the KDAK broadcat of the elections night, November 1920?

I believe the year was 1924, not 1920, and the station KDKA not KDAK. And the
broadcast was heard by only a few hundred people.

I have part of the broadcast iny small collection as does probably EVRYone else
 on this board as well.

Tom Barnett
EDS/VDTO Finance and Personnel Systems Support
(810)986-0389 (8-226) Internet:TBARNETT@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:35:29 PST
From: <rdruian@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: re: Ovaltine
Message-ID: <[removed]+lRiJlB@[removed]>

All right, I can't stand it any more. After all the talk about Ovaltine, 
I've got to add my own two cents. I'm too young to remember the 
Ovaltine-Little Orphan Annie connection, but I'm still a fan of Jean 
Shepherd's interpretation. And I certainly remember Captain Midnight and 
the Secret Decoder Badge. My experiences were much like Jean's but I wasn't 
fortunate enough to find an empty Ovaltine bottle in the alley, thrown out 
by some rich kid. I had to bellow and wail to my parents to buy me a bottle 
of the stuff. They kept telling me that I'd never drink it because it 
doesn't taste good. 
	"But they say on the radio that it tastes chocolatey and good," I'd 
reply. 
	After several days of this kind of banter, they finally relented and I 
had my way. When I finally got the bottle home, I immediately ripped off 
the label and wrote my name and address on the back, as instructed by the 
radio announcer, and sent it off to the appropriate address. Then I opened 
it and, having previously read the directions, carefully spooned out the 
correct amount into a glass of milk. I stirred and stirred, and the milk 
turned a brownish color, but there were black spots all through it. "Hmmm," 
I thought, "it'll take a bit more stirring to dissolve it."  So I kept 
cranking the spoon around. Those black spots never disappeared. Finally, I 
took a sip anyhow. The stuff felt like I was drinking either sand or dirt 
in the milk. The taste was one of the foulest I'd ever experienced. If 
there were any chocolate in the stuff, I sure never noticed it under the 
other disgusting tastes I endured. 
	Later, Captain Midnight advertised the shaker mug and my brother 
suggested I send for it, in hopes that its use would allow the foul 
concoction to fully dissolve. I knew, though, that the first bottle was 
still on the shelf, untouched and gathering dust, and that there was no way 
I could lobby for another. That feeling of dismay was further intensified 
some months later when Ichobod Mudd (anyone out there remember Icky?) 
invented a new decoder badge, that multiplied the 26 secret cipher 
combinations by another 26, and the friendly folks at Ovaltine would allow 
me to send another label to get it.  What's particularly sad was, I was old 
enough to figure out that the entire code setup was a simple substitution, 
but not quite old enough to figure out that I could create my own cipher 
key and decode the secret messages without sending for the badge.  
	I think I spent the entire last two years of the program being on the 
air without ever finding out the content of such secret messages as, "Be 
sure to drink your Ovaltine," or "Ovaltine makes kids grow big and strong," 
or like that. I don't know how I ever made it to adulthood.
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