Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #356
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Date: 11/17/2005 6:59 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 356
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Radio/Nostalgia Convention            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Crystal Radio                         [ wayne_johnson@[removed] ]
  Wylliss Cooper's early work           [ "Jim Gordon" <jimgordon88@[removed] ]
  Truth, but Consequences Nontheless    [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
  Lobotomies                            [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  Re: Musical Groups on A&A             [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@VintageRad ]
  Quiz Of Two Cities                    [ <fc90030@[removed]; ]
  RE: Quiz of Two Cities                [ Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed]; ]
  Jubilee                               [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  Rinso White Jingle                    [ Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; ]
  Re: Race music and film               [ Steve Salaba <dangerdanger@sbcgloba ]
  RE: Quiz of Two Cities                [ "D. FISHER" <dfisher052@[removed] ]
  Mysterious Video                      [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
  Quiz of Two Cities                    [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  Re: Wyllis Cooper                     [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
  Have Gun Will Travel Season Three     [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:37:34 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio/Nostalgia Convention

The web-site for the Mid Atlantic Nostalgia Convention (MANC) has been
updated to include many old-time radio events.  Among them:

Dan Riedstra will discuss the history behind the Coca Cola Spotlight Bands
radio program.

Terry Salomonson will discuss the history of the Green Hornet.

Western Radio Programs being discussed by a panel of researchers and
authorities.

Ken Stockinger will present baseball broadcasts of radio's Golden Age, and
even play excerpts from his personal collection.

Jack French will discuss female detectives on radio, and his book about the
same subject.

There will be an Amos n' Andy radio recreation Saturday afternoon.

There will be an X Minus One recreation performed during the dinner banquet
on the last evening and it will directed by our own Charlie Summers.  The
script is based on a 1950s story, faithfully adapted, but new to X Minus One
fans because the story was never done on the series.

The movie rooms will be presenting some OTR related films, including two
1949 TV broadcasts of LUM AND ABNER with Andy Devine in the supporting cast,

A 1942 movie entitled SEVEN DAYS LEAVE with Harold Peary as the Great
Gildersleeve,

A 1944 WWII film short with Harold Peary playing the Great Gildersleeve
entitled ROAD TO VICTORY,

A 1937 movie THIS WAY PLEASE starring Jim and Marion Jordan playing Fibber
McGee and Molly,

A 1946 film POPULAR SCIENCE starring Jim and Marion Jordan as Fibber McGee
and Molly,

The 1941 comedy HENRY ALDRICH, EDITOR with Jimmy Lydon,

and the 1948 comedy movie THE LIFE OF RILEY with William Bendix, among many
others.

More OTR related events are being planned and the schedule is still open for
anyone who wants to host a panel or presentation OTR-related.  Anyone with
an OTR web-site wanting to exchange links, please let me know and I'll have
Michelle arrange it.

The web-site is:
[removed]

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:12:32 -0500
From: wayne_johnson@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Crystal Radio

In my opinion, the Crystal radio was an important part of OTR.  Thousands
listened to those golden programs on homemade sets.

I had an interesting experience a couple of weeks ago.  I am volunteering at
an Evening Report Center (an after-school programs for youths in trouble with
the law and awaiting trial) and one of the kids mentioned that he would like
to have a radio.

"Make one" I told him.  "You can probably find some of the parts in the trash."

About a dozen faces turned towards me while their jaws were dropping.

Long story short ... we made one for about $6 out of a large pizza box.
Radio shack had the wire but forget getting the diode from them.  They had no
diode, no earplug and no variable capacitor.  Good thing that I had some in
my "junk drawer" at home.

The kids were totally amazed and are still talking about it.  I'll have to
stock up on parts and repeat this from time to time.

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:21:18 -0500
From: "Jim Gordon" <jimgordon88@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Wylliss Cooper's early work

Having just read [removed] King's enquiry in the OTR Digest concerning the early
work of Wyllis Cooper. Can I recommend to [removed] and others interested in
Cooper's work, the Quiet Please website, [removed] as an
invaluable source of information? From this source, I seem to recall that he
was involved in a series of programmes about the Bible during his early
career. Indeed, biblical themes often cropped up in his Quiet Please
scripts.

Regards

Jim Gordon

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:21:35 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Truth, but Consequences Nontheless

Hi Gang -

In otrdigest number 355, Stephen A. Kallis recalls a Truth or  Consequences
broadcast where he "... heard a lady give the correct  answer.  She was given
a modest fee for a prize, and left the program."

I remember hearing another broadcast where a gentleman contestant gave
the correct answer, but somehow had to pay the consequences  regardless.
Apparently the stunt prepared for this man was elaborate and would not have
worked for someone else.

Happy Taping - Ken Piletic - Sreamwood,  Illinois

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:06:27 -0500
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Lobotomies

Christopher Werner <werner1@[removed]; asked:
Were there any OTR dramas/plots (not the likely news stories) that
used the technique of a Lobotomy? Were there plots that made
reference to the Lobotomy operation either in a positive or negative
way?

I don't know of any such OTR dramas, but one actress who appeared on
at least 30 major radio programs might have been a victim of this
particular outrage of the psychiatric profession, though there is
debate. Though the procedure was a dramatic element in the movie on
the life of Frances Farmer (starring Jessica Lange), the evidence
that the "surgery" took place is circumstantial. That doesn't mean it
didn't happen; mental illness carried even more stigma during the
heyday of lobotomies than it does today and it is within the realm of
possibility that her family and agents might have been able to keep
the procedure hushed up.

Some sound clips of Ms. Farmer's voice on Lux Radio Theatre may be
heard at: [removed]~[removed]
Ironically, one of the plays is entitled "Men in White."

Whether or not Ms. Farmer herself was actually a victim of the
"Mental Health" profession, the torments described in her biography
were certainly not uncommon in mental "asylums." My late friend Karl
Wagner, who has some association with radio drama in that one of his
stories "Sticks," a likely inspiration for _The Blair Witch Project_,
was dramatized for radio, abandoned psychiatry because of his disgust
with draconian procedures with scant medical justification such as
shock treatments.

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:12:02 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Musical Groups on A&A

On 11/17/05 10:41 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

There's an irony in this, since I've heard that many people regarded rock
'n' roll and R&B of that era to be "black music" (and stronger terms used by
various folks), even when performed by white artists like Jerry Lee Lewis.
So
Amos n Andy, who were supposed to be black, weren't playing "black
music"...then again, Correll and Gosden weren't either.

They were better about such things when they actually had control of the
program -- during the thirties, such African-American groups as the
Melody Masters Quartet and the Four Vagabonds were given network exposure
on "Amos 'n' Andy," and during the sitcom era, Gosden, especially, took
an interest in the musical groups featured. The four youths who appeared
during the 1944-45 season as the "Mystic Knights of the Sea Quartet"
were, in fact, four Los Angeles black youths who Gosden had heard
harmonizing on a street corner one day -- and he offered them a job on
the spot. Unfortunately, none of them were able to read music, which made
it difficult for musical director Lud Gluskin to work with them in timing
their numbers, so their tenure on the series was brief. The following
year, Gosden again was instrumental in bringing the Delta Rhythm Boys to
the series, and the national exposure that group received on "The Amos
'n' Andy Show" resulted in so many club bookings that they had to leave
the series just to keep up with all the personal-appearance requests.

I suspect the white-bread nature of the music on the Music Hall had more
to do with listener demographics than anything else -- A&A had largely
become a nostalgia act by the late fifties, with the program's appeal
depending to a considerable degree on the audience's fond memories of the
program in its glory days than on any contemporary relevance. That
audience had little, if any, demographic intersection with the more
happenin' things in popular music.

Elizabeth

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:53:55 -0500
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

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NBC    5/9/37
The precursor to the BERGEN/McCARTHY show which evolved in 1940. This
program featured Jim Ameche as the MC, with [removed] Fields, Bergen & McCarthy,
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(Michigan Radio Network)   10/30/43
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Suspense - "The Butcher's Wife"
originally aired February 9, 1950 on CBS
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I Was a Communist for the [removed] - "The Red Octopus"
originally aired June 10, 1953 via Frederick Ziv Syndication
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My Friend Irma - "The Lonely Hearts Club"
originally aired January 26, 1948 on CBS
Starring: Marie Wilson, Cathy Lewis, John Brown, Hans Conreid, Gloria
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originally aired October 22, 1947 on NBC
Starring: Harold Peary, Walter Tetley, Louise Erickson, Lillian Randolph,
Earle Ross, Richard LeGrand, Pauline Drake, Willis Bouchey, John Wald
announcing.
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:54:01 -0500
From: <fc90030@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Quiz Of Two Cities

As a youngster growing up in Detroit I enjoyed listening to the local version
of, "A Quiz Of Two Cities," which paired Detroit with Cleveland.  If you check
a map you'll find that a straight line across lake Erie between the cities is
surprisingly short.  And, remember, radio signals travel in straight lines.
Frank Coopersmith

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:54:07 -0500
From: Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RE: Quiz of Two Cities

In the mid-1940s I used to listen to the Quiz of Two
Cities on WGN, Chicago, on Sunday afernoons.  (It came
on a couple of hours before The Shadow on that
station.)  The only competing cities that I can recall
on that WGN version were Chicago and New York.  (By
the way, Dunning mentions these two cities.)

-- Phil C.

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:54:23 -0500
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jubilee

Thanks to Marcel over on the Jazz-L list who gave me this wonderful link to
the complete Jubilee
discography!

[removed]

Marcel would like to know if anyone knows where to find a photograph online
of Ernie "Bubbles"
Whitman?

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:54:50 -0500
From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Rinso White Jingle
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

Amos n' Andy was sponsored by "The New RINSO White with Solium in the late
1940's on radio. Could that be the one where they did the "Rinso" jingle?
"Big Sister",a soap opera was sponsored by "Rinso."

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:55:02 -0500
From: Steve Salaba <dangerdanger@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  Race music and film

At 10:41 AM -0500 11/17/05, Laura Leff wrote:

I just watched a video that included a short called
"Weekend in Hollywood"... Harry Von  Zell
was working the Eddie Cantor show and Harlow Wilcox was working the Fibber
McGee and Molly [removed] a lot of this short devoted to radio  and
supporting players.  There's even a live demonstration of the Fibber  McGee
closet, with an SFX guy tearing through piles of stuff.

I love to see these kinds of things. Where did you see/get this video?

On a related note, I always see a few seconds of some film of OTR actors in
front of a mike at a studio in those documentaries on PBS but the clips are
all too short. They usually appear to be films of some kind of broadcast
done for the armed forces. How much of the broadcast did they film? Where
is the rest of the footage? Is it in some government warehouse somewhere?

In an unrelated note, I've been listening recently to my cassettes of
"Speaking of Radio: The Jack Benny Program". This really is a wonderful
documentary and I hope that Chuck in Chicago still has it available.

BTW, why are most shows called "The ----  --- Show" (insert name of star)
but Jack Benny's was usually referred to as "The Jack Benny PROGRAM"?

--
Steve Salaba

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:10:33 -0500
From: "D. FISHER" <dfisher052@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Quiz of Two Cities

It was a national show on Mutual. I have a show between New York City &
Chicago from 1944.

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:10:47 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mysterious Video

Laura Leff notes,

I just watched a video that included a short
called "Weekend in Hollywood".

Any clue to the title of the video?  Was it VHS or DVD?  Sounds
interesting to the OTR fan.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:30:07 -0500
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Quiz of Two Cities

I've been advised by the Golden Radio Buffs of Maryland that they have
several audio copies of these shows in the mid 1940s and early 50's
featuring teams from Baltimore vrs. Washington, DC, which were
sponsored by Gunther's Beer. The MC's included Henry Hickman of WFBR
and Bryson Rash of WTOP.

Interestingly, the consolation prize to the losers was a six pack of
Gunther's Beer.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
<[removed]>

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:29:12 -0500
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Wyllis Cooper

[removed] King wrote:

No, it wasn't 1934. The Time article is from June 2, 1941.

That is what I have too. I have a copy of the article.

and then wrote:

He probably changed the spelling around the time he left Hollywood in
1939 and moved to New York City.

I agree. I have a clip from a Screen News Here and in Hollywood from
8/22/39 in which it lists: ...Willis Cooper has been assigned to develop
a sequel to 'Dr. [removed]'

Then in a 1/18/40 rents column from NYC there is this:
'Wyllis Cooper  in 71 Washington Square South' and again when he rents a
flat he is listed as Wyllis on 7/17/40.

Finally, he asks:

As long as we're on the subject, can anyone tell me what programs
Cooper contributed to before he created "Lights Out"?

Yes, there was a program with various titles of "The Lost Legion"
"Legion of the Lost"  and Tales of the Foreign Legion." in which he
wrote and acted. That was from 1932-33 but the series was regional until
January 1933 when it was picked up by CBS nationally. (See Hickerson entry).

Jim Widner

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:59:36 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Have Gun Will Travel Season Three

Ivan Shreve will know about this, but others on the Digest may find this
news.  CBS has decided to offer Season Three of HAVE GUN - WILL TRAVEL on
DVD.  This is great news to HGWT fans because there was a point where
suspicion leaned the other way.

Back in February season two of the TV series (which featured episodes that
were adapted for the radio program of the same name) was scheduled for
release but "due to a lackluster of pre-sales" CBS/Paramount decided not to
put the set out.  But since they were already minted, the set came out in
May.  So obviously, it was suspected that CBS would not put out any future
seasons.  Apparently they decided to do so, and it was just announced the
other day that season three will be out on the first tuesday of the week,
January 3, 2006.  Anyone who has been collecting them will find this a
delight.

Martin  (a HGWT fan who personally recommends season two and season
(whenever that comes out) four for their shelves)

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