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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2009 : Issue 10
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
1-13 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Re: Sen-Sen [ "Danica L. Stein" <furrygirl@comcas ]
Re:OTR on XM Satellite Radio [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
The Chicago Whistler [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
Re: OTR on XM Satellite radio [ Mike Murphy <mikeandzachary@verizon ]
Sen-Sen [ <georgewagner@[removed]; ]
Sen-sen [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Re: XM Radio and HD Radio [ rand@[removed] ]
RE: OTR on XM Satellite radio [ "Pamela K. Gitta" <wjmtv@[removed] ]
XM and Sen-Sen [ Karen Lerner <kareneflerner@[removed] ]
Re: Bob Hope [ Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed] ]
Pearl Harbor Coverage [ "Mike Harron" <[removed]@[removed]; ]
RE: Radio about radio/Whistler [ Radioclass <radioclass@[removed] ]
DRAGNET AND CSI NY DIALOGUE [ Grams46@[removed] ]
Re: sen sen [ Grams46@[removed] ]
Smoking on radio [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:18:14 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 1-13 births/deaths
January 13th births
01-13-1882 - Domenico Savino - Tranto, Italy - d. 8-8-1973
composer/conductor: "Evening in Paris"; "La Palina Smoke Dreams"
01-13-1884 - Sophie Tucker - Russia - d. 2-9-1966
singer: (The Last of the Red Hot Mammas) "Sophie Tucker and Her Show"
01-13-1885 - Jimmy Monaco - Genoa, Italy - d. 10-17-1945
orchestra leader: WOR Newark, New Jersey
01-13-1895 - Campbell Arnoux - d. 11-1-1966
announcer: Uncle Billy "Uncle Billy"
01-13-1901 - A. B. Guthrie - Bedford, IN - d. 4-26-1991
author, screenwriter: "NBC University Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-13-1903 - Charles Kullman - New Haven, CT - d. 2-8-1983
singer: "The Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"
01-13-1903 - Kay Francis - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Territory - d.
8-26-1968
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-13-1909 - Danny Barker - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-13-1994
jazz guitar: "This Is Jazz"
01-13-1910 - Jack Mercer - d. 12-4-1984
actor: Popeye "Popeye the Sailor"
01-13-1913 - Harry Budka - Chicago, IL
composer, arranger, pianist: Hal Kemp, Earl Burnett and Ted Weems bands
01-13-1913 - Jeff Morrow - NYC - d. 12-26-1993
actor: "Electric Theatre"
01-13-1913 - Paul Birch - Alabama - d. 5-24-1969
actor: Radio work in St. Louis under the name of Paul (Lowery) Smith
01-13-1914 - Osa Massen - Copenhagen, Denmark - d. 1-2-2006
actor: "Orson Welles Theatre"; "Columbia Workshop"
01-13-1914 - Stanley Waxman - Ohio - d. 9-27-1998
actor: "Escape"; "Man Called X"; "Tell It Again"; "Presenting Charles
Boyer"
01-13-1915 - Mahlon Aldridge - d. 1-21-1986
sportscaster: Missouri
01-13-1918 - Steve Dunne - Northampton, MA - d. 9-2-1977
actor: Sam Spade "Advs. of Sam Spade"
01-13-1919 - Robert Stack - Los Angeles, CA - d. 5-14-2003
actor: "Family Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
01-13-1925 - Gwen Verdon - Culver City, Los Angeles, CA - d. 10-18-2000
actor, singer, dancer: "Stagestruck"; "WOR Diamond Jubilee"
01-13-1927 - Delores Hawkins - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-15-1987
singer: "Nick Kenny's Children's Follies"
01-13-1930 - Frances Sternhagen - Washington, [removed]
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
01-13-1931 - Charles Nelson Reilly - The Bronx, NY - d. 5-25-2007
actor: "Visual Radio"
January 13th deaths
01-02-1901 - Hugh Ross Williamson - Romsey, England - d. 1-13-1978
author: "Paul, a Bondslave"
02-02-1882 - James Joyce - Dublin, Ireland - d. 1-13-1941
author: "NBC University Theatre"
02-09-1915 - Charlotte Holland - d. 1-13-1997
actor: Nita Bennett "Lone Journey"; Nora Drake "This is Nora Drake"
02-26-1922 - Margaret Leighton - Barnt Green, England - d. 1-13-1976
actor: "Variety Playhouse"; "Pocket Theatre"
03-16-1859 - Alexander Popov - Turinsk District, Russia - d. 1-13-1906
One of three claimants for inventor of radio (along with Marconi and
de Forest)
04-03-1920 - Stan Freeman - Waterbury, CT - d. 1-13-2001
pianist, composer: "Piano Playhouse"; "All Night on NBC"
04-10-1897 - Eric Knight - Menston, England - d. 1-13-1943
writer: "Everyman's Theatre"
04-11-1913 - Bob LeMond - Hale Center, TX - d. 1-13-2008
announcer: "Romance of the Ranchos"; "Sweeny and March Show"
04-21-1914 - Norman Panama - Chicago, IL - d. 1-13-2003
writer: "Pepsodent Show starring Bob Hope"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-24-1871 - Blanche Ring - Boston, MA - d. 1-13-1961
actor/singer: "Fight Camp"; "Jumbo"
05-02-1917 - Herman Clebanoff - Chicago, IL - d. 1-13-2004
musician: (Herman Clebanoff and the Ensemble) "Big City Serenade"
05-11-1911 - Doodles Weaver - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-13-1983
comedian: (Brother of Pat Weaver) Professor Feedlebaum "Spike Jones
Show"
05-27-1911 - Hubert H. Humphrey - Wallace, SD - d. 1-13-1978
politician: "Meet the Press"; "University of Chicago Round Table"
06-24-1924 - Thelma Rogers - Coventry, England - d. 1-13-2000
actor: "The Archers"
07-05-1911 - Richard Newton - Vancouver, Canada - d. 1-13-2006
actor: "Now Hear This"
07-09-1881 - Samuel "Roxy" Rothafel - Stillwater, MN - d. 1-13-1936
emcee: "Roxy's Gang"; "Roxy Revue"
07-13-1934 - Philip Crosby - California - d. 1-13-2004
actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
07-15-1920 - B. H. Anderly - d. 1-13-1998
newscaster, disk jockey: KLIZ Brainerd, Minnesota
07-22-1908 - Shirley Howard - d. 1-13-1988
singer: "Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou"
08-18-1912 - Ralph Hetzel - d. 1-13-1994
labor leader: "Wake Up America"
09-05-1916 - Frank Shuster - Toronto Canada - d. 1-13-2002
writer: (Wayne and Schuster) "The Army Show"; "The March of Time"
09-13-1880 - Jesse L. Lasky - San Francisco, CA - d. 1-13-1958
film producer, host: "Gateway to Hollywood"
09-23-1889 - Don Bestor - Longford, SD - d. 1-13-1970
bandleader: "Nestle Program"; "Jack Benny Program"
11-04-1896 - Harry Woods - North Chelmsford, MA - d. 1-13-1970
compser: "Great Moments to Music"
11-29-1909 - Frank Waldecker - d. 1-13-1995
announcer: "A Date with Judy"; "The Eddie Duchin Show"
12-22-1901 - Andre Kostelanetz - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 1-13-1980
conductor: "Chesterfield Hour"; "Light Up Time"; "Pause That Refreshes"
Ron
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:44:57 -0500
From: "Danica L. Stein" <furrygirl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Sen-Sen
Keith, would you believe I have a package of Sen-Sen right here
beside me? Many moons ago, I asked about the reference to Sen-Sen I
had heard on (I think) a Fibber and Molly show. Some kind soul on
this Roundtable actually mailed me a pack, which I still have right
here. That was so long ago, I don't even remember who that kind soul
was. But I thank him/her again!
I remember that discussion here about Sen-Sen, and folks saying you
either loved it or hated it. A couple people said it tasted like
soap. I just popped a few in my mouth, and I think it smells like
soap, but I like that. And I decided I have a love-hate relationship
with it. I find it so odd-tasting, I just have to keep eating it.
Wow, that's a taste that stays with you.
Well, at least now I know where to get more--I live not far from the
Vermont Country Store!
Back to lurking!
Danica in western Vermont
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:45:21 -0500
From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:OTR on XM Satellite Radio
On 1/12/2009 Larry Jordan wrote:
On Friday I picked up a new SRX that happens to be equipped with XM
satellite [removed]
Tonight on the way home I was listening to some wonderful Big Band
music on "40s on [channel] 4." I was surprised that at 7:30 [removed] they
announced it was time for the Bing Crosby show! I felt like I was in
a time-warp.
Many XM music channels are available on Direct TV including the 40's
channel which is on channel 801.
It looks like the Bing Crosby show is on twice this week
[removed]
Don
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:45:33 -0500
From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Chicago Whistler
Ted Kneebone wonders:
There are (at least) two versions of this Whistler program. One is dated
9/11/49 and stars Frank Nelson and Bill Conrad, from CBS. The other is
dated 9/11/46 and was aired on WBBM, could have been their own production.
I do not recognize the actors. Sponsored by Meisterbau Beer. I don't know
if this went out over the CBS network or not.
The Chicago version of 'The Whistler" was broadcast on Sunday 9/8/46 on
WBBM (CBS) sponsored by a an old Chicago beer, Meister Brau that is no
longer in business. The star was Fahey Flynn who was a radio new
reporter, with Beverly Younger, Ken Griffin ans Everett Clarke. I don't
remember ever hearing "The Whistler" on Chicago radio in 1946. I
recorded the episode from Chuck Schaden's radio, "Those Were The Days"
program in about 1988.
Fahey Flynn was a very popular TV anchor on WBBM TV and he moved to WLS
TV (ABC) and anchored the top rated TV news until his death in 1983.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:48:23 -0500
From: Mike Murphy <mikeandzachary@[removed];
To: OTR DIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: OTR on XM Satellite radio
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Larry,
Welcome to satellite radio! Concerning your question about where to find
OTR, Channel 164 is Radio Classics, a channel entirely of OTR. You may
also want to try channel 163, Book Radio, for the newer stuff, like
Harry Nile and The Twilight Zone. Check XM's website for complete
schedules.
Mike
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:44:41 -0500
From: <georgewagner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sen-Sen
The line "the tell-tale scent of Sen-Sen" is heard in every production
of THE MUSIC MAN.
Sincerely,
George Wagner
georgewagner@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:13 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Sen-sen
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With a little research I found sen-sen still available, Vermont
Country Store sells them for $[removed] a box.
I remember sen-sen, but not at $[removed] a box.
Ron
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:19 -0500
From: rand@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: XM Radio and HD Radio
Larry Jordan discovered XM radio and it's 40's channel in his new car and
asked about OTR on the service.
I've been a subscriber for a few years, first with Sirius and then XM.
(They merged a few months ago and it's "Sirius-XM Satellite Radio" now.)
Greg Bell hosts an OTR channel on XM, channel 164. It plays many popular
shows - Benny, Fibber McGee and Molly, Dragnet, Lone Ranger, The Shadow,
etc. The channel I think has about eight hours of programming each day
that gets repeated in blocks.
The shows are provided by Radio Spirits and the quality of the original
recordings can vary quite a bit, with some sounding like they're coming
from multi-generational dubs of shows.
Another issue with it is that the sound is digitally compressed. The
channel is blocked with XM's talk channels and doesn't have the fuller
bandwidth of the music channels.
My XM receiver is the Pioneer inno, which is a portable that allows you to
use it in the car, at home, or listen to XM live "on the go". It's really
nice for my commutes and my lunch-time walks and also plays MP3 files, so
I always have something to listen to.
Overall, I find XM enjoyable and listen to the otr channel sometimes.
Honestly, I can't listen to over the air radio much anymore - too many
commercials, bland music playlists and obnoxious djs on the music stations
and programming on NPR that has become utterly dull.
In larger markets, some stations are broadcasting in a format called HD
Radio. This is a new digital standard that requires a new tuner; it
allows an FM station to carry multiple digital channels. The sound
quality can be quite good if it's run properly and some are offering more
diverse music.
For example, the NPR station in Winston-Salem carries a digital version of
their regular station, and sub-channels devoted to Classical and World
Music. North Carolina's flagship NPR station, WUNC, carries one channel,
a digital version of their regular station, but no sub-channels.
I'd love to see some NPR stations carrying an OTR subchannel on HD Radio,
but none are doing so, as far as I know. NPR affiliates had some great
otr programming, original dramas and shows with vintage/rare jazz and big
band back in the 70s and 80s, but they seem to have lost interest in that
type of programming.
Randy
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Randy A. Riddle
Mebane, NC
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:47 -0500
From: "Pamela K. Gitta" <wjmtv@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE: OTR on XM Satellite radio
Now I am wondering if any of the OTR Digest readers can tell me if there
are other old-time radio shows on XM, and if so, when they can be heard and
on what channels.
Larry Jordan
You will be thrilled to hear that XM has a station dedicated to OTR. Channel
164, Radio Classics. Their page at the XM website is
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They don't play a terribly wide range of stuff, preferring to stick to the
tried & trues, and I think there are a fair number of repeats in any given
week or two. And another warning: most of the XM talk stations (and this is
one) have commercials. They're at the top and bottom of every hour, and at
the fifteen-minute mark. But that doesn't stop me from listening quite a
bit, especially on longer trips when I didn't think to bring the ol' Ipod.
Their schedule is posted at the website. They occasionally give episode
titles.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:58 -0500
From: Karen Lerner <kareneflerner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: XM and Sen-Sen
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With regard to old time radio on XM - there is an entire channel dedicated to
it. Channel 164 is the Radio Classics channel and broadcasts old time radio
24 hours a day.
With regard to Sen-Sen - I have heard of this, but I must confess that I know
of it only because of the lyrics of the Billy Joel song "Keeping the Faith".
There's a line that goes, "With a fresh pack of Luckys and a mint called
Sen-Sen".
Karen Lerner
Radio Spirits
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discuss the service, the radios, how to hook them up, whatever you want to
discuss (the blog isn't as focused as the [removed], it's as
unfocused as the guy who runs it). Go to [removed] (you
may need to scroll down a bit as new entries are added) and use the
comment fields to post whatever you want on XM Satellite Radio and
RadioClassics.
Hopefully AOL-friendly link: <a href="[removed]">[removed]</a>
--cfs3]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:04:45 -0500
From: Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Bob Hope
>From [removed]: "Bob's first radio hit grew out of a personal appearance
at New York's Capitol Theater. In the interest of using radio to promote its
box-office attractions, the 'Capitol Family Hour' hosted by Major Edward J.
Bowes originated from the theater every morning. Bob, as one of the theater
attractions, was booked for the show.
"The show at the Capitol proved to be another career milestone for Bob. It
marked the first time he appeared with singer Bing Crosby."
If that's the case that would definitely put the date at 1932.
That appearance would also lead directly to the "Road" pictures. In 1937
Crosby hosted a screening for "Sing You Sinners" at his Del Mar Race Track.
(A screen was erected on the infield.) While the crowd waited for it to get
dark Crosby entertained and brought up other Paramount stars on stage. When
Hope came on, he and Crosby lapsed into the act that they had worked out at
the Capitol five years before. Paramount execs believed they ad libbed the
whole thing and started making plans to team them up.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:05:30 -0500
From: "Mike Harron" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Pearl Harbor Coverage
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I am actively seeking to collect all available programs from 2 [removed] on Dec 7
through midnight of Dec 8, 1941 from both NBC networks, CBS and MUT. Using
Dave Goldin's Index as my source, it appears that nearly total coverage is
available, at least on NBC, including the overnight programs on those days. I
currently have a lot of the daytime programs on both days for NBCB, and on Dec
7 for NBCR, although not many of them are of very good quality.
Does anyone know if the higher quality shows as described in Dave's Index are
available and if so, from whom? Guidance of any kind would be most
appreciated.
Mike Harron
[removed]@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:10:14 -0500
From: Radioclass <radioclass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Radio about radio/Whistler
In digest #9, Ted Kneebone mentioned that there were two airings of the
program "Brief Pause for Murder". One was in 1949 and the other was in 1946.
The actor in the 1946 airing was Fahey Flynn, a long time newscaster in
Chicago television.
Anne
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:10:43 -0500
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: DRAGNET AND CSI NY DIALOGUE
question for those of you who are otr dragnet fans and also watch csi ny:
has anyone else noticed the similarity in writing style between the folks
(jack webb, etc) who wrote joe friday's lines and those who are writing mac
taylor's (csi ny) lines?
mac taylor's clipped way of speaking and the inevitable one ironic sentence
that sums everything up at the end of a segment or episode reminds me of joe
friday,
peace from kathy
support our troops; end the war in iraq
john 3:16
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:11:27 -0500
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: sen sen
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From: Keith Houdeshell <_khowdy@[removed]_ (mailto:khowdy@[removed])
how many people remember Sen-Sen. ... How many in the digest remember them?
i remember sen sen quite well. my brother used it in the mistaken belief
that sen sen would keep our parents in the dark that he was smoking
cigarettes.
(:
peace from kathy
support our troops; end the war in iraq
john 3:16
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:11:54 -0500
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Smoking on radio
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This is just my opinion, for what it's worth, but I believe that
smoking
whether on radio was not so much a comment on what was happening in
our country at the time as it was a way to strngthen the story being told.
It wasn't just on radio either. Smoking in the movies of the 30's and 40's
was quite prevalent too. I can remember actresses like Bette Davis, Gene
Tierney, Lana Turner Joan Crawford, and others smoking in movies. They
usually
smoked when portraying a character who was a vamp, or when trying to
accentuate
the sensuality of the character. With actors like Dick Powell, Alan Ladd, or
Humphrey Bogart (among others) they smoked on camera to make themselves
or their characters appear either tough or debonair.
These days, however, actors and actresses don't depend on props like
cigarettes to enhance their characters on TV and movies. They prefer to
utilize
the writing of their roles and make the most of their talents. Still, there
are
many of them who can accentuate their characters intents, feelings, manner,
and emotions through the casual tilt of their head or suggestive look.
Sometimes,
more can be implied through these subtleties than through the dialogue
itself.
Just a thought,
Kenneth Clarke
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