Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #333
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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 333
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OTR vendor sales                      [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
      CDR life                              [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Lone Ranger episode count             [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
      Re: Guildersleeve trivia              [ "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed]. ]
      Gildy on film                         [ Jandpgardner@[removed] ]
      commercial CD life and digital data   [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      CLAYTON MOORE                         [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Re: Gildersleeve Movie Trivia         [ Wboenig@[removed] ]
      9-5 Births/Deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Radio Spirits declining sales         [ "Cancilla Dominick" <[removed]@buc ]
      WRW, or is not?                       [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Museum of Television and Radio Want   [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
      Clayton Moore                         [ "aaltounian" <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Re: CD life expectancy                [ "Maureen O'Brien" <mobrien@[removed] ]
      Walden Hughes schedule                [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
      Television mentioned in 1937 on Jack  [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:17:56 -0400
    From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR vendor sales

    Jim Widner writes about Radio Spirits & overall sales of OTR tapes, etc.:

>     Despite their high market presence, I suspect
>     they are no different from even our friendly vendors. It is simply that the
>     Internet and the free mp3's floating around make it very tough to sell in
>     such an environment.

    The current economy probably has an impact on sales, too. There's not as
    much "discretionary income" available to buy OTR tapes and discs as there
    was a few years ago.

    Herb Harrison

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:30:56 -0400
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  CDR life

    I did my own CDR experiment, very unscientific, take it for what you feel it
    is worth.

    I had several old CD-Rs (CD-ROMs) of out dated material, I tossed them into
    the yard and forgot about them. Several weeks later as I mowed, I found
    them - recorded side up and only partly covered by leaves. Rather than mow
    over them and risk the shrapnel that would result, I picked them up. Later,
    as I lark, I tried to read them, and they read fine. Of course, the data
    that you don't need anymore will survive just fine, it's the valuable ones
    that will probably fail.

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:14:36 -0400
    From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lone Ranger episode count

    Yes, September 3 marks the anniversary in 1954 of the final live broadcast
    of The Lone Ranger from WXYZ in Detroit.  However, the transcription episode
    number of that broadcast was 2596, not 2956.  The total number of broadcasts
    logged, according to Terry Salomonson's log, was 3377.  These include the
    episodes from the program's inception in 1933 to the time transcriptions
    were first made, in January, 1938.

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:04:17 -0400
    From: "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Guildersleeve trivia

    The Victor Mature/Lucille Ball flick in which Harold Perry plays Guildy is
    Seven Days' Leave (1942), Directed by Tim Whelan and Written by William
    Bowers and Kenneth Earl. Ralph Edwards, Les Brown and Freddy Martin play
    themselves, and Peter Lind Hayes and Arnold Stang have supporting roles

    Joe Cline ([removed]@[removed])
    Charlotte

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:06:43 -0400
    From: Jandpgardner@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gildy on film
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    Steve Salaba is quite right, Harold Peary did appear as 'The Great
    Gildersleeve' in a film with Lucille Ball and Victor Mature. It did include a
    broadcast
    of 'Truth or Consequences' and he nearly got the title right with 'Seven Day
    Pass'.  The correct title however is 'Seven Days Leave' made by RKO in 1942
    and
    also featuring Ginny Sims and choreographed by Charles Walters. This was
    Walters' first film work and he would of course soon become one of MGM's top
    musical directors. I have a copy of the film on videotape from a showing on
    BBC a
    few years ago.
    John Gardner

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:03:21 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  commercial CD life and digital data

    Prof Biel writes:

>     Just remember, when the CD was introduced, Philips advertised it as:
>     P E R F E C T   S O U N D   F O R E V E R  ! ! !

>     They lied.

    Perhaps.  But they were referring to commercial CD's. Some of these use an
    aluminum recording layer that's photo-etched at the factory.  Others have
    their polycarbonate layer molded just like a vinyl recording and then the
    reflective aluminum layer is vacuum-flashed on.  A heavy lacquer layer is
    applied over the aluminum and then printed with the label information.  So
    it's the label side of the CD that must be protected.

    I believe that there hasn't been much question about the longevity of
    commercial CD's (yet).

    Note that on CD's, the reflective layer is not sandwiched between two
    transparent polycarbonate layers.  Only DVD's are constructed in this
    manner.

    I suppose that if someone wished to make a contribution to the archiving
    business, they'd figure out a way to salvage the data from a damaged CD or
    CD-R or DVD.  I don't know of any commercial software product that will do
    this, but I do know that there's a large body of knowledge devoted to
    retrieving corrupted digital data.  It's been done for some years now,
    though perhaps the most widely known example is the recovery of data
    transmissions from the end of the flight of the space shuttle Columbia.

    Mark Kinsler
    512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
    [removed]~mkinsler1

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:03:46 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  CLAYTON MOORE

    Yes, he did wear sunglasses.  In 1965 he moved his family to Minneapolis
    so his children could grow up with their cousins, etc.
    He and his brother created Ranger Realty.  Well, at the time, my wife and
    I were looking for a house, so I called Clayton, and made an appointment
    to look at some houses.  He drove up in a Sierra Gold Cadillac, sporting
    those sunglasses.  During the conversation, which was mostly show-biz [I
    was on the air for WLOL] he asked me, "Why do you think they made me wear
    masks in those early Republic serials I appeared in?"  Took off his
    sunglasses, and said, "Is this such an ugly face?"  Well, we all had a
    good laugh.  Even funnier--after experiencing just one Minnesota winter,
    Clayton took his family BACK to sunny California.

    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:04:42 -0400
    From: Wboenig@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Gildersleeve Movie Trivia

     Steve Salaba writes:

>     I seem to recall a movie called "Weekend Pass" or "7 Day Pass" where Gildy
>     appeared as a supporting character. The flick also starred Victor Mature
>     and Lucille Ball and a scene took place at a broadcast of radio's "Truth or
>     Consequences". I'nm sure the more knowledgeable among you
>     will remember the correct title:)

    The movie was called "Seven Days Leave" (1942), and, in an odd bit of
    characterization, Peary played an ATTORNEY (!) named Throckmorton P.
    Gildersleeve.  I have this one on tape, but it's been a long time since I
    watched it.  However, I do remember a very impressive performance by a
    16-year-old Marcy McGuire, who played the younger sister of Lucille Ball's
    character.

    Wayne Boenig

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:06:34 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-5 Births/Deaths

    September 5th births

    09-05-1895 - Craig Earl - Great Barrington, MA - d. 8-1985
    quizmaster: "Professor Quiz"
    09-05-1907 - Jimmy Wallington - Rochester, NY - d. 12-22-1972
    announcer: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Texaco Town/Star Theatre"; "Alan Young
    Show"
    09-05-1910 - Kenny Delmar - Boston, MA - d. 7-14-1984
    actor: Beauregard Claghorn "Fred Allen Show"; Commissioner Weston "The Shadow"
    09-05-1934 - Carol Lawrence - Melrose Park, IL
    singner: "New Faces of 1948"

    September 5th deaths

    08-06-1922 - Jackie Kelk - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-2002
    actor: Jimmy Olsen "Advs. of Superman"; Homer Brown "Aldrich Family"
    09-16-1914 - Allen Funt - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-1999
    host: "Candid Microphone"
    12-24-1910 - Mitchell Ayres - Milwaukee, WI (R:  NYC) - d. 9-5-1969
    bandleader: "The Dunninger Show"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Jay Jostyn

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:07:25 -0400
    From: "Cancilla Dominick" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Spirits declining sales
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    I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one have almost completely
    stopped buying tapes from Radio Spirits since their 30-hour sets became
    20-hour sets without any decrease in price (at least not that I could see).
    The cost just got too steep for me. I wonder how many are in the same boat --
    I went from buying every 20-tape set Radio Spirits put out to buying none.

    Now pretty much all of my OTR money goes to the First Generation Radio
    Archives. Not only do I get great quality shows, but I feel that I'm
    supporting the preservation of the medium.

    --Dominick

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:07:38 -0400
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  WRW, or is not?

    I was just looking at the When Radio Was web site, they have down,loads of
    Stan Freeburg's show but the others, the movie show and Radio Superheroes
    are no where to be seen - or heard. What gives, did they discontinue these
    other shows?

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:11:48 -0400
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Museum of Television and Radio Want Ad

    David Hinckley reports on a key job opening at the New York Museum of
    Television and Radio in today's New York Daily News -

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:32:31 -0400
    From: "aaltounian" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "Old. Time. Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Clayton Moore

    Thank you for the clarification that "unmasking" actually meant not wearing
    the mask in public.

    Alain

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    Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:33:17 -0400
    From: "Maureen O'Brien" <mobrien@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: CD life expectancy

    This CD thing's been discussed on some of my other lists.
    Apparently, there are ways to recover data even from damaged CDs.
    There is a program known as cdparanoia which is apparently
    included with the standard Linux distributions, and it does this.

    [removed]#cdparanoia

    "Cdparanoia will read correct, rock-solid audio data from
    inexpensive drives prone to misalignment, frame jitter and loss
    of streaming during atomic reads. Cdparanoia will also read and
    repair data from CDs that have been damaged in some way."

    Perhaps this is a piece of software that would be useful to
    folks here? (Of course, it only works on Linux and other UNIX-type
    operating [removed])

    Maureen

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    Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:33:57 -0400
    From: BryanH362@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Walden Hughes schedule
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    Arlene Osborne  mentioned that she hated finding out about what was on the
    radio in regard to OTR  AFTER  the fact.   Well for Arlene and others like her
    here is what is scheduled for Walden Hughes'  program this weekend.

    Friday night

    Interview   with John J. Anthony

    Saturday

    Sandy  Singer interviews   Frankie Laine

    Interview with Gregg Oppenheimer to talk about his book   "Laugh Luck and
    Lucy"

    Gassman  interview with George Balzer one of Jack Benny's   writers.

    Sunday

    Frank Bresee and Tommy Cook

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    Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:16:25 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Television mentioned in 1937 on Jack Benny

    Hello, another question about the Jack Benny program. I'm sure that I'll
    have more as the series progresses. Jack said "After all, this isn't
    television." when he was talking about Phil showing off in the beginning of
    a 1937 program. I didn't know people used the word television before 1948 or
    so. I know that there were movies, but when did they start using television
    as a word? Can someone please explain?
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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