------------------------------
The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2003 : Issue 438
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Wanted [ Mark Dereng <markdereng@[removed]; ]
16" [removed] [ Rod Gowen <rgowen@[removed] ]
Reused ESCAPE scripts on SUSPENSE [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
Blue language [ <welsa@[removed]; ]
Reminiscences of & December [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Mysterious Stranger [ "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@earthlin ]
Old Radio Cusswords [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
The last turkey in the shop [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
Paul Temple prepares for a trip [ "Austotr" <austotr@[removed]; ]
Re: Velocipede [ Library of American Broadcasting <m ]
Re: Geez! [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Re: Gangbusters info [ rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed] ]
GANGBUSTERS Episode Guide [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Adventures of Maisie [ otrdude@[removed] ]
Re: Recent contest [ <jlsalley@[removed]; ]
12-9 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Can anyone help [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
An OTR Easter Question [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:48:23 -0500
From: Mark Dereng <markdereng@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wanted
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain
I am looking for a copy of the WGN- Chicago radio program "In Chicago
Tonight" from 8-1-40. The guests were Al Jolson & Martha Raye.
*** This message was altered by the server, and may not appear ***
*** as the sender intended. ***
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:48:55 -0500
From: Rod Gowen <rgowen@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 16" [removed]
Hi there,
I just came into possession of over 100
16" transcriptions discs.
I was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about
such shows as:
Diamond Dramas
Pacific Story
Unseen Horizons
Some star such names as Vincent Price.
Have never heard of these particular series.
Most are between 1942 and 1949.
I beleive all are acetate discs, like old 78 records as
2 of them ar broken like
the 78's used to break and crack.
Hopefully, the broken ones are duplicates as there do
seem to be some duplicates in the boxes.
I will be wanting to get these transferred to other media as soon as
possible.
If there are logs available for these series,
I would be interested in them as well.
Thanks in advance for any help from this learned group.
Rod Gowen
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:49:56 -0500
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Reused ESCAPE scripts on SUSPENSE
In a message dated 12/5/2003 Charlie asked:
I _know_ "The Island" is an episode of Escape. So why is it listed as an
episode of Suspense?
And in a message dated 12/7/03 7:51:43 PM, Don Shenbarger writes:
For the same reason two of the shows on the Burns & Allen CD I gave Mom last
year happen to actually be Gang Busters programs with wrong names. I'll bet
she doesn't sleep through that racket!
***Actually, Millard Kaufman's "The Island" was one of a number of scripts
first aired on ESCAPE that were later reprised on SUSPENSE. Others include
Ray
Bradbury's "Zero Hour" and the adaptations of "Leinengen Vs. the Ants" and
"Three Skeleton Key." During its later years, SUSPENSE even broadcast Robert
A.
Arthur's "The Black Door," originally broadcast on THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER.
--Anthony Tollin***
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:50:25 -0500
From: <welsa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Blue language
I can't think of any words that actually went on the air, but having seen
many, many original scripts from Fibber McGee and Molly, and can tell you
that quite a few naughty words wound up in the cues that were typed on
scripts.
One I remember without looking them up is a show that called for Fibber to
go into an extended laugh. The note in parenthesis was LAUGH LIKE HELL!
I'm amazed that some of those words didn't accidentally wind up on mic.
Along the same line, there is a Fibber script called Painting the Christmas
Tree White. Throughout the show they refer to it as "painting" the tree.
Of course, we know those trees as flocked. I've often wondered if they
deliberately chose not to use the word flock, in case in did get
mispronounced or misunderstood.
Ted
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:35:27 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Reminiscences of & December
Sixty-two years ago, our whole family was awakened by sounds of war. My
father, then a [removed] Army Captain in the Coast Artillery was stationed at
Fort Kamehameha, an army facility abutting Hickam Field on the Island of
Oahu, then Territory of Hawaii. With all the alerts and briefings he'd
been having, he realized almost immediately that we were under attack by
the Japanese.
He pulled on his uniform and ran to meet his troops. As he ran off, a
lone Japanese aircraft fired an armor-piercing bullet, a single round, at
my mother. The shot fell short, and the bullet, because its outer
coating was peeling away, snaked along the concrete of the sidewalk,
stopping less than a couple of feet from my mother's foot. It lay there
like some brass lily as my mother ducked back into the house.
My sister and I had been instructed to stand in doorways inside the
house, just in case, since doorways were considered the structurally
soundest parts of a dwelling. So there I stood, hearing the sounds of
attack, and staring at a window with the shades drawn, watching dust
motes dance in a beam of sunlight.
In time, we were evacuated from our quarters and moved to an abandoned
mortar emplacement, which acted as (and was referred to as) a bomb
shelter.
So what does this have to do with OTR?
When we returned to our quarters, my mother turned on the radio to keep
abreast of news developments. After the rumors died down, the station
resumed more nearly normal programming. But the radio stayed on the next
day, because she wanted to be on top of any emergency announcements. And
from that time for most of her 95 years, there was always a radio on
during waking moments in my mother's house.
This tradition exposed me to OTR from an early age (I was four years old
-- well, three months shy of five) during the attack. And I adopted the
tradition in my own home, though sometimes I shifted broadcast media to
TV.
Remember Pearl Harbor. It's not _that_ far in the past.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:17:33 -0500
From: "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Mysterious Stranger
Why am I having such difficulty in finding tapes or CDs of
The Mysterious Stranger? Several of the leading sources
of recorded OTR do not list this show. Radio Spirits has
sold the show, but if anyone knows where I can buy shows
of this program, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks.
Harry Machin Jr
harbev5@[removed]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 00:28:44 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Old Radio Cusswords
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:25:24 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
Can anything recall other OTR circumlocutions?
Well, there was "Great Caesar's Ghost!" When I was in law school, we did a skit which
spoofed Superman, in which Perry White says, "Dammit! Oops, I mean Great Caesar's
Ghost!" Superman, on the other hand, used to say, "Great Scott!"
On Tom Corbett, Space Cadet, people used to say, "Great Galaxies!" or "By the rings of
Saturn!"
And the Indian characters on the Howdy Doody Show (radio and TV) used to say either
"Kawagoopa" or "Kawabonga," depending on their tribe. Buffalo Bob used to say, "Bouncing
Buffalos!" while Mr. Bluster sometimes said, "Great Gibblesnips!" Clarabell just said "Honk,
Honk, Honk!"
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210
lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503
[removed]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:48:00 -0500
From: "david rogers"
<david_rogers@[removed];
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: The last turkey in the shop
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr. asked:
Can anything recall other OTR circumlocutions?
I am not too sure if this is what you are refering to, [removed]
"the last turkey in the shop" is a reference from the Goons - one of many
references that got past the censor.
Also you can take your pick from "Round the Horne" but especially anything
that was said during the "Julian and Sandy" sketches.
Maybe these are not exactly what you are refering [removed] they are just
as rude (although very funny).
Love as always, David Rogers
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:49:37 -0500
From: "Austotr" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Paul Temple prepares for a trip
In issue 435, David Rogers wrote:
You would expect more from the BBC woudn't you. I remember Galton and
Simpson saying that the BBC destroyed several early copies of "Steptoe and
Son" and yet they have kept every episode of the Australian soap opera
"Neighbours."
Neighbours is like Fosters Beer, we make it for others, not for local
consumption :) I would never choose Neighbours over Steptoe and Son even if
Kylie was still in the cast.
I was wondering which OTR detectives
(not just British ones) people would consider as the sedate detectives? I
really don't like the bloody, serial killer, cold, hard stuff. I like
mysteries that you could enjoy with your family. I wonder if murder really
is a family affair. Anyway, I wonder who folks would put in this category?
Greg Marshall's site that most people pointed you towards with regard to
Paul Temple, has a lot of other Detectives mentioned on it. Greg is a New
Zealander and has a fantastic knowledge of British and Australian shows and
is a member of the Australian Group. To answer your question, I was raised
on Agatha Christie and Dorothy Sayers so their characters are first to mind.
I feel the British have always been good at comedy and drama. OTR has
introduced me to Gideon Fell (John Dickson Carr), Charlie Chan (reading a
series of the books at the moment that I was fortunate to find), PC49 though
more for the younger age group. I was also a big reader of John Creasey and
still collect his books, though I believe he wrote over 500, a bit of
information I haven't told my wife about :) So Inspector West, The Toff and
The Barron come to mind. In circulation shortly will be Bony - Wings Above
The Diamantina. Bony is a Half Caste Aboriginal Detective and the
characters come from the 20+ books of Arthur Upfield. The 26 episodes have
not been heard by more than two people in almost 70 years, so if you head
north on your trip I will run you off a copy as it should be encoded by
then.
There are some great [removed] detectives as well that I enjoy but I think there
will be plenty here who will mention them.
Have a good trip David and make sure you visit.
Ian Grieve
(Have been away and catching up on my Digest reading, will post more info on
Its a Crime Mr Collins to answer the question of last week)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:51:48 -0500
From: Library of American Broadcasting <mlhenry@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Velocipede
Reference to a velocipede is also heard on the March 23, 1942 broadcast of Vox Pop.
That evening, Parks Johnson and Wally Butterworth interviewed soldiers at Fort
Knox, KY. During the broadcast, Parks interviews Daniel Jaworski, the 4 year old
son of Sgt. Major Henry Jaworski. After Daniel entertains the audience by reciting
the Pledge of Allegiance, Parks gives him a "rubber tired velocipede". You can
actually see Daniel on the velocipede in a photograph taken during the closing
moments of the broadcast at:
[removed];andor=AND;Go=Find&image=[removed]
Michael Henry
Library of American Broadcasting
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:53:49 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Geez!
Stephen A. Kallis wrote --
> The only broadcasts you could hear "Hell" on were sermons from
broadcast church services
I'm sure Elizabeth can come up with the names, but there were some
pre-1934 shows I've heard, the Rudy Vallee-type variety shows, where
part of a play, for example, would be re-enacted and there were times I
would hear distinctly "hell", "damn" "g-d", etc. I've even backed up
the .mp3 to make sure I wasn't hearing things. After the Hayes Code was
enforced in films these words also disappeared from the airwaves, AFAIK.
Joe (who doesn't use this language and doesn't care to hear it).
--
Visit my homepage: [removed]~[removed]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:01:11 -0500
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Gangbusters info
Probably the most accurate information on Gangbusters is forthcoming. Martin
Grams Jr is currently working on an extensive complete history of the
program, which will certainly contain a log.
I'm not sure when the book is scheduled for release, but sometime in the
fairly near future is a good guess.
rodney.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:36:39 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: GANGBUSTERS Episode Guide
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html
Mike Kerezman asked:
I've been wondering why there is no reliable information on Gangbuster
shows. I can find virtually no good logs anywhere. Even the GOLD index seems
to be inadequate. For example, many of the shows in the GOLD index list as
original airdates of many Gangbuster shows as their source date, their
broadcast in syndication in late 1960s and 1970s on WRVR-FM, New York. Is
there no further information as to their "original air date" even just as to
year? Any pointers would be appreciated.
Mike, you're in luck. There is a book about GANGBUSTERS being released
this May or June and it's going to feature a lengthy and detailed history
of the program (including the Colgate / Philip H. Lord debate over the
ownership of the program), tons of details about the licensing and
merchandising of GANGBUSTERS collectibles, the movies, the TV show (with
episode guide) and per request a complete detailed episode guide for each
and every GANGBUSTERS radio broadcast (with plot descriptions, titles,
airdates, episode numbers, casts, etc.) so everyone will be able to
finally put a date on many of those circulating GANGBUSTERS episodes that
still remain undated.
There's a preview on the "preview" page [removed]
[removed]
As for the GOLD index, many of those shows were actually the Charles
Michelson syndications that were broadcast over WRVR in New York, where
they were recorded off the air and then commercially sold. This is why
there are no broadcast dates for those recordings - they didn't originate
from transcription discs so the dates of broadcast were unknown. The
GANGBUSTERS book will feature all the details so anyone can easily put
the accurate and exact date for their recordings.
Martin Grams, Jr.
*** This message was altered by the server, and may not appear ***
*** as the sender intended. ***
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:15:40 -0500
From: otrdude@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Adventures of Maisie
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain
There are two sets of Adventures of Maisies floating around with totally
different dates starting with 50-10-05, that also differ from the only log
that I could find at [removed]
Does anyone have any idea which is correct?
Andrew Steinberg
Here is an example
Set 1
50-10-05 Stolen [removed]
50-10-12 Eddie Moves & Maisie Gives Him a [removed]
50-10-19 Masie Impersonates French Ballet [removed]
50-10-26 Maisie the [removed]
Set 2
50-10-05 Hollywood [removed]
50-10-12 Eddie Moves & Maisie Gives Him a [removed]
50-10-19 Hargraves [removed]
50-10-26 Birthday [removed]
Log
50-10-05 Hollywood [removed]
50-10-12 Small Town [removed]
50-10-19 New York [removed]
50-10-26 The Ex [removed]
*** This message was altered by the server, and may not appear ***
*** as the sender intended. ***
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:51:16 -0500
From: <jlsalley@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Recent contest
Thanks to Hal Stone for the contest and thanks to Jughead for the
autographed photo. I guess second place is better than noplace, but it sure
did cost me a lot to win. You see, I went ahead and broke down and finally
bought the book after I won the photo! Anyhow, the photo came in today and
I've already framed it and hung it near my computer. I'm now looking
forward to the book's arrival.
Hmmmm, Hal. There may be an idea in there somewhere. If you have another
contest and give away a lot of honorable mentions (all autographed photos)
there's no telling how many books you might sell.
I sure was surprised to see that Jughead hasn't aged any in all these years.
That was a recent photo, wasn't it?
Jerry Salley
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:33:40 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 12-9 births/deaths
December 9th births
12-09-1902 - Margaret Hamilton - Cleveland, OH - d. 5-16-1985
actress: Aunt Effie "Couple Next Door"
12-09-1903 - Matty Malneck - Newark, NJ - d. 2-25-1981
bandleader: "Campana Serenade"; "Duffy"s Tavern"
12-09-1905 - Dalton Trumbo - Montrose, CO - d. 9-10-1976
writer: (member of infamous Hollywood Ten); "Arch Obler"s Plays"
12-09-1906 - Freddy Martin - Cleveland, OH - d. 9-30-1906
bandleader: "Penthouse Serenade"; "Fitch Bandwagon"; "Jack Carson Show"
12-09-1906 - Ken Niles - Livingston, MT - d. 10-31-1988
announcer: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Rudy Vallee Show"; "Date with Judy"
12-09-1909 - Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. - NYC - d. 5-7-2000
actor: "Silent Men"; "This Is War"; "We Care"
12-09-1911 - Broderick Crawford - Philadelphia, PA - d. 4-26-1986
actor: "Hedda Hopper Show"; "Hallmark Playhouse"; Cavalcade of America"
12-09-1915 - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf - Jarotschin, Poland
singer: Austrian Radio
12-09-1916 - Kirk Douglas - Amsterdam, NY
actor: "Doris Day Show"; "Hollywood Byline"; "Screen Director"s Playhouse"
12-09-1928 - Dick Van Patten - Richmond Hill, Queens, NY
actor: Wilfred Finnegan "Duffy"s Tavern"; "Let"s Pretend"; Jimmy Dugan
"Reg"lar Fellers"
12-09-1934 - Judi Dench - York, England
actress: Renaissance Theatre Company in association with BBC Radio Drama
December 9th deaths
01-03-1898 - John Loder - London, England - d. 12-9-1988
actor, host: "Crime Does Not Pay"; "Silver Theatre"
01-07-1922 - Vincent Gardenia - Naples, Italy - d. 12-9-1992
actor: "CBS Mystery Theatre"
02-29-1896 - William A. Wellman - Brookline, MA - d. 12-9-1975
film director: "Screen Director"s Playhouse"
07-28-1916 - Laird Cregar - Philadelphia, PA - d. 12-9-1944
actor: "Hello, Americans"; "Radio Hall of Fame"; "Suspense"
08-06-1881 - Louella Parsons - Freeport, IL - d. 12-9-1972
commentator: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Louella Parsons"
08-08-1905 - Nino Martini - Verona, Italy - d. 12-9-1976
singer: "Seven Star Revue"
10-09-1912 - Walter Compton - Charleston, SC - d. 12-9-1959
quizmaster: "Double or Nothing"
11-21-1908 - Martha Deane - Star Lake, NY - d. 12-9-1973
commentator: (The First Lady of Radio) "Martha Deane Show";
11-21-1921 - Vivian Blaine - Newark, NJ - d. 12-9-1995
actress, singer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-25-1909 - Mike Mazurki - Tarnopol, Austria - d. 12-9-1990
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:09:53 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Can anyone help
Received this query at my web site. I am not sure of the answer. If anyone
knows, can you email me directly.
"I am wanting to find out the name of a radio program that was on in the
50's for my uncle who is 90.
He can remember that someone answered the phone saying Hello hotel by the
sea, keep smiling. I appreciate any help you can give me with this."
Jim Widner
jwidner@[removed]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:18:50 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: An OTR Easter Question
I am attempting to fill in a gap in a broadcast log and I'm slightly off
on a date.
Does anyone know if April 6, 1941 or April 13, 1941 was Easter Sunday?
I know it's one of those two dates but can't figure out which one.
Martin
mmargrajr@[removed]
--------------------------------
End of [removed] Digest V2003 Issue #438
*********************************************
Copyright [removed] Communications, York, PA; All Rights Reserved,
including republication in any form.
If you enjoy this list, please consider financially supporting it:
[removed]
For Help: [removed]@[removed]
To Unsubscribe: [removed]@[removed]
To Subscribe: [removed]@[removed]
or see [removed]
For Help with the Archive Server, send the command ARCHIVE HELP
in the SUBJECT of a message to [removed]@[removed]
To contact the listmaster, mail to listmaster@[removed]
To Send Mail to the list, simply send to [removed]@[removed]