Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #123
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 4/22/2001 9:10 AM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 123
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     Re: Listening Deficit Disorder       ["Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];     ]
     New Book?                            [Bill Harris <billhar@[removed];    ]
     on listening while doing             [leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass]
     listening and concentrating          ["J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed]]
     Web Radio Silenced                   ["David  Jewett" <davidrj@[removed]]
     places and time for listening        [steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed]]
     Listen Up!!                          ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     CANCELED SHOW                        ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
     reply to Randolph CoxIn reply        ["rowley" <rowley@[removed];      ]
     Bon-Ton Department Store             [Cnorth6311@[removed]                 ]
     The Shadow Tows                      ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:59:45 -0400
    From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Listening Deficit Disorder

    Hello again --
    In answer to James Lewis' concert about losing track of OTR programs while
    driving or doing chores around the house, I don't think he has to worry
    about an age-induced shortened attention span. If I were driving and DIDN'T
    lose the track of a program, particularly the dramatic ones like Whistler,
    Suspense, or Johnny Dollar, I'd be concerned that my attention wasn't on the
    road where it should be! And that feature of cassettes -- that they can be
    rewound to any point -- is a real advantage compared to the new CD-based MP3
    players. With them I can fast-forward for a brief time -- maybe one or two
    minutes -- but can't "back up" at all. So if I don't catch the threads of
    the plot immediately, I have lost them for good. Perhaps knowing this helps
    me to listen more carefully than if I knew I had the luxury of rewinding a
    tape!
    As a composer and university professor, I've often been concerned about how
    my non-music students use music as a background for all their activities
    from studying to socializing. No wonder they have never been able to listen
    objectively and recognize a theme when it comes back transformed, recognize
    sudden changes in harmonic center, identify musical instruments by their
    colors, etc. The worst case scenario was a composition student of mine who
    came in week after week with very little accomplished. In questioning him
    about his study habits, I learned that he was trying to write his own music
    while listening to music by other composers on the radio! Give me a break!
    Jan Bach

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:59:47 -0400
    From: Bill Harris <billhar@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  New Book?

    Ken Lanza asked about the Encyclopedia of Radio.

    I have had email communication with Dan Wingate of the Museum of
    Broadcast Communications in Chicago who is doing research on the book,
    he said it was scheduled for publication in the summer of 2001.

    Bill Harris

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:59:49 -0400
    From: leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  on listening while doing

    no one can pay attention to more than one thing at once. when young we
    switch back and forth so fast we don't notice. when a wee bit older it
    takes a wee bit longer. best solution: as confucius says, "do one thing
    at a time." if you don't remember him saying this, your attention had
    drifted.

    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:31:18 -0400
    From: "J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  listening and concentrating

    When I was young I was able to listen to the radio while doing other things
    and I do not recall ever missing anything to which I was listening -- at
    least that's my memory. These days when I have an OTR tape going while
    working on the PC or even having the radio on with music or news, I have
    noticed it is really easy to let my mind wander or to be so concentrating on
    what I am entering on the keyboard that I miss much of the program to which
    I am listening. I thought it was just me and have endeavored to concentrate
    more on the listening. I'm glad to realize that others seem afflicted by
    this lapse of attention. So it isn't just me.

    I do find that while I am driving and listening to a tape I seem to pay more
    attention to the radio show -- but an equal amount of attention (I hope) to
    me driving.

    Randy Cox

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:27:03 -0400
    From: "David  Jewett" <davidrj@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Web Radio Silenced

    Forgive me if this doesn't firmly fit as an old-time radio topic.

    Anyhoo, the [removed] site currently has a news story headlined "Web Radio
    Goes Silent in Legal Crossfire."

    Goes on at length to tell how broadcast stations have quietly suspended
    Webcasting while caught between union battle and copyright fights.

    It has some fascinating information, particularly in light of the raging
    fighting over copyrights for old-time radio programs, etc.

    Come to think of it, maybe this does firmly fit in as a topic here, since
    perhaps some of those stations have been doing old-time [removed]

    dave j
    Vancouver, WA. USA

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:27:16 -0400
    From: steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  places and time for listening

    Since may people have responded on this subject, I
    thought I'd add my two cents worth.
    I do a considerable (though not as much as I'd like)
    amount of hunting and fishing in the remote,
    mountainous areas of western VA and eastern WV.  There
    is very limited daytime radio reception in these areas
    (and unfortunately, nighttime AM has evolved to a
    point where it is mostly talk, the exception being the
    FABULOUS, for old country music fans, show of Eddie
    Stubbs on WSM Nashville).  So, I usually take along
    some of my OTR tapes.  These are great, they make the
    miles go by very quickly, and they keep me awake on
    the long drives home!  I also listen at home, in bed
    at night.  By the way, I teach at a state school for
    the blind, and most of my kids love OTR!  It was
    tailor made for them.
    Steve McGuffin

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:36:55 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Listen Up!!

    James Lewis, speaking of listening to OTR these days, notes,

>     I listen in about 3 different modes,driving the car,listening while
>     doing something else at home, and finally listening at home with full
>     attention to shows.  <snip> I find that while I am listening to the
>     typical 1/2 hour mystery or adventure show in the driving or doing
>     something else mode I lose track of the show constantly and will have to
>     rewind   <snip> For me to really listen to and fully follow the
>     mystery/adventure type shows, I have to have total concentration.

    I suspect people are a lot different this way.  I grew up "resource
    sharing."  For the average OTR drama, I can be doing a bunch of stuff,
    such as driving or simple home repairs while simultaneously listening to
    an OTR tape.  Some activities, such as writing or studying a textbook,
    require enough resources so that I can't absorb an OTR story
    simultaneously.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:44:14 -0400
    From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  CANCELED SHOW

       To all the posters on the West Coast: I have been asked to post this on
    the Digest by the person mentioned below:

    AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL OTR FANS

    "DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL:...BORN:  MAY, 1974  DIED: APRIL 15, 2001

      The longest running OTR show outside Chicago (almost 27 years on KCSN FM,
    Northridge, CA) has, as of Easter Sunday been canceled.  It came with no
    warning . I received the sad news (as many of you folks in radio know the
    routine) by phone on April 18.  So the show is off KCSN (for now), but don't
    be surprised if Barbara Sunday and I pop up somewhere else on the radio!

       To all you folks who recently discovered us on the internet audio
    streaming "Don't Touch That Dial," thanks for [removed] hope you
    listened fast!

       We want to take this opportunity to say a very special thank you to the
    many listeners for your support over these  27 years.

       Old Time Radio Lives!

       Bobb Lynes

    (NOTE:  I was asked by my good friend, Bobb Lynes to inform all of his OTR
    fans, and I thought the Digest would be the quickest way.)

      Owens Pomeroy

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    Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:44:11 -0400
    From: "rowley" <rowley@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  reply to Randolph CoxIn reply

     In reply to Randolph Cox inquirey as to when @ where others listen to otr I
    would like to address 3 [removed] Quality of recordings- I prefer to hear
    them just as I did as a child growing up in Mulino Oregon, a town of 65
    residents in Oregon. Radio receptions was poor , but I listen for nostalgic
    reasons,it takes me back to a more peacfull time, free from the hectic pace
    of these times. [removed] once asked why  we love OTR. I think my wife
    summed it up nicely. She is 10 yrs. younger the I am and didn't grow up with
    OTR. She said I like the way it makes me feel. Do you agree?
    3. Comercialization. It is so sad to log on to a website of  someone who has
    loved and saved OTR all his life and would like to share it with other at
    his own expense and see the message "due the current climate---this site has
    been suspended. Signs of the times huh?
        I listen to OTR when the mood strike(every day) and yes It puts me to
    sleep and thats a good thing,it takes away the stress and pressure of these
    times. When the wife and I wake up it the middle of the night and find it
    hard to get back to sleep she asks if I will put on one of those "old
    raisin" records.

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    Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:44:09 -0400
    From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bon-Ton Department Store

    What significance did the Bon-Ton department store have in OTR? I have heard
    it used in a couple of OTR Shows, both The Life of Riley and of course Fibber
    McGee and Molly. Was there ever a Bon-Ton store that any one knows of, or did
    one writer make this up who possibly worked for more than one shows. Also,
    did any one ever have a  definitive answer as to what TL meant? I don't want
    to open this can of worms again, I just want to ask a question about page
    dropping. Did this all start from Maltin's book where some actress told of
    page dropping?

    Charlie

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    Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:44:07 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Shadow Tows

    Even with its spurious origin story and the like, the Alec Baldwin movie
    has made one small step for OTR.  My mother, who is 93+, has caregivers.
    Her favorite was with her when I made her a present of a videotape of The
    Shadow film (my mother saw it when it first came out and loved it -- in
    part because of the genuineness of the New York of the 1930s).  My mother
    decided she wanted to see the film again, so the three of us watched it.
    The caregiver, a lady in her 40s, indicated that she was taken with the
    character.  "I've heard about The Shadow, but this is the first time I've
    actually found out about him," she said.  She asked me about the OTR
    shows, and is genuinely interested in hearing some.

    I'll have to bring over some tapes.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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