Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #330
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Date: 9/2/2003 7:18 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 330
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      dying cd's                            [ "Davis Mills" <otrdave@[removed] ]
      Failing Cds                           [ Faulknerian189@[removed] ]
      Re: CDs                               [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
      Schlepperman played by Sam Hern?      [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
      Jack Johnstone                        [ William Brooks <webiii@[removed]; ]
      UNMASKED                              [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Tex and Jinx                          [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Walden Hughes interview on YUSA       [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
      radio Commerical - Camels             [ "Kenn Ley" <tearfull@[removed]; ]
      Life of CD's                          [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      Great Gildersleave movies?            [ David <dbmartin5@[removed]; ]
      9-3 Births/Deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      OTR Challenge                         [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
      Zero Hour--Lights Out on TV           [ Mahlon Wagner <mwagner2@[removed] ]
      A form of Soap                        [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
      Media Bay 3Q Results                  [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
      Bradbury episodes                     [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Re: Finderskeepers site               [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:26:38 -0400
    From: "Davis Mills" <otrdave@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  dying cd's

    It is interesting that no specific cd's were mentioned. Also of note, are
    the cd's decaying with some use or simply as a funcion of time? Ceretainly I
    have a fair sized collection at something around 2 yrs [removed] have gassed
    out yet. If this scare story is true---ouch!!!!Dave Mills

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:24:30 -0400
    From: Faulknerian189@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Failing Cds
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    I agree with Ken fully!  I have nearly 600 Cds in Mp3 format.  When I copy a
    Cd, I immediately store it in protected casing, in this instant, in notebooks
    with zippers, and set it upright in my bookcases, where it is also kept at
    comfortable room temperatures.  I never stack one on the other, and I am very
    careful when playing it, holding it by its edges, and occasionally cleaning
    the
    disk with non-abrasive material and fluid specially made for cd cleaning.  I
    used most renown name brands.  I have disks recorded as much as four years ago
    which are sounding as good now as then.  I also believe having a good computer
    system when recording makes a great deal of difference.  I use Windows (XP),
    and the only time I occasionally find difficulty in copying from a disk is
    when
    the original was copied on MacIntosh, for some strange reason.

    Bottom line---it all goes to the kind of computer you have, whether you have
    sufficient memory and a good software.  I think it is conceivable that with
    proper care and storage, a disk could last as long as 30 or more years.
    Unlike
    tape, you don't have to worry about it flaking; you certainly don't have to
    "bake" it after 25 years, and being a former reel-to-reel enthusiast, you
    don't
    have to wind and wind and wind to find what you want.  It behooves anyone who
    wants to perserve their OTR material to use a top quality brand.  Thanks for
    the opportunity to share my opinion, Jim Faulkner, Tucson

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:25:19 -0400
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:  CDs

    As a company that duplicates over 5,000 CDs a year and close to that many
    DVDs a year, I think I can speak from some experience.

    When the CD first appeared on the market, there were a number of
    manufacturers that were producing a product that failed after a few months.
    Many, many articles were written about this. Keep in mind that a CD-R as
    well as a DVD-R depends on dyes for recording. If the dyes do not hold
    their structure, then the information can be lost.

    If you stick with major companies and mainly those that have a good
    reputation, your discs should last a good number of years.

    I've had very good luck with Ti Yudin CDs and Verbatim DVDs.

    When I first started burning DVDs I bought some made by a company that was
    considered "generic" by many. I'm now finding that some of those discs have
    failed. However, about two years ago, I decided to standardize by using
    only Verbatim and in some cases Mitsui DVD-R discs. I have never had one go
    bad on me.

    In fact, as far as compatibility, some people who could not play back other
    brands of DVD-R on their players, were able to playback discs I had made on
    Verbatim's DVD-R.

    I probably pay twice as much for my Verbatim and Mitsui discs than if I
    were to purchase some off brand disc, but the security is worth the extra
    money. Anyway, prices are coming down on even these brands.

    The 4X DVD discs seem to be even better made than the 2X disc. I have a
    very cheap player I use for testing. It plays all my disc back, but when I
    jump from chapter to chapter, it sometimes does not playback the last
    chapter, unless you let it play into it. When I started using the 4X discs,
    it now will play the last chapter on the disc by jumping to it. So, the 4X
    disc seem to work even better than the 2X disc on my cheap player.

    For the last two months, I've only been buying the 4X disc and I'm sure
    most companies will phase out the 2X disc sometime later this year. Mitsui
    only makes a 4X disc.

    Nothing last forever, but the CD-R does offer a better solution for trading
    copies than audio tape. There is no quality loss between copies and if you
    have every heard a many generation audio tape, you will really appreciate
    the CD.

    Fred
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:25:27 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Schlepperman played by Sam Hern?

    Hello, I'm listening to the early run of the Jack Benny programs, and the
    character of Schlepperman is identified in one of the New York broadcasts as
    Sam Hern. I thought that someone named Art somebody played Kitzel. I can't
    think of his last name right now. He sounds the same. By the way, when does
    Schlepperman change and we get Kitzel? Can someone give me a program date
    where we first hear Kitzel? Since their voices are similar, didn't the
    audience think it was still Schlepperman and not Mr. Kitzel?
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:25:47 -0400
    From: William Brooks <webiii@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Johnstone

    While assisting on a work in progress I've come up with a mental
    block. Writing for Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar E. Jack Newman used the
    alias John Dawson. Jack Johnstone wrote, according to a conversation
    I had with him, well over 300 shows using his own name and a pen
    name, but I am not able to recall the name he used. Jack did use the
    alias of "Jonathan Bundy" when writing for Suspense but does anyone
    know the pen name he used on some of the Johnny Dollar scripts.

    Thanks
    Bill

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:26:02 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  UNMASKED

    On this day in 1979, an LA Court ordered Clayton Moore to unmask

    Don Wilson, Jack Benny's announcer and comic foil for 33 years, born on
    this day in 1900

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:26:11 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

     From Those Were The Days --

    1922 - The first daily news program on radio was The Radio Digest, on
    WBAY. The program, hosted by George F. Thompson, the program's editor,
    originated from New York City.

    Joe

    --
    Visit my homepage:  [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:26:22 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Tex and Jinx

    Has anyone noticed that the husband and wife team of Tex McCrary and Jinx
    Falkenberg (The Tex and Jinx Show) died within a month of each other? Tex died
    on July 29th and Jinx died on August 27th.

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Jay Jostyn

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:39:55 -0400
    From: Osborneam@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Walden Hughes interview on YUSA

    With all the glowing reports of the wonderful
    interviews by Walden Hughes on YUSA, I wonder
    if Bill Bragg, the station's founder, has ever
    considered rerunning the interviews a second time
    within each two-week period for those of us who
    miss them and find out later on the OTR Digest?

    Arlene Osborne

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:39:25 -0400
    From: "Kenn Ley" <tearfull@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  radio Commerical - Camels
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    I 've been listening lately to the Abbott & Costello show. There sponsor was
    Camel Cigaretts. During the commericals which were done by their announcer, a
    prerecorded message comes across. Usually saying something like nine out of
    ten doctors perfer Camels than any other cigarette. "To me" the voice sounds
    like John Cameron Swayze.

    Also, memorial lines, "Takes a licking and keeps on ticking"

    K Ley

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:40:21 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Life of CD's

    We've had several threads on the longevity of audio media in the last few
    years, and the lifespan of CD's of every type has been raised each time.  A
    couple of important points:

    *CD's, like tapes, are mass produced.  Occasionally a bad one will come
    through the production line, but they're generally inspected quite well.
    The production quality of magnetic [removed], floppy disks--is perhaps
    comparable.  Every so often, a bad one would show up.  Backups are thus
    recommended.

    *There's no such thing as artificial time.  Though materials people try
    valiantly to predict the sort of slow chemical reactions that might take
    place over a period of, say, 20 years, it's exceptionally difficult to do
    so.  A few good examples would be the metal alloys used in die-casting (ask
    mechanical music people about these: player pianos were made with many
    die-castings,) the fate of most early plastics and synthetic rubbers, the
    famous rubber outer cone suspensions with which most high-quality 1970's
    loudspeakers were equipped, and of course the acid paper used in books and
    newspapers.

    Thus there was some validity to NPR's 2003 April Fool's joke story about how
    the Library of Congress was transferring all of its recordings to shellac
    disks.  Time has proven that these can last for something more than 100
    years.  And, much to the unhappiness of each generation of the young and
    restless, time is the only way to prove the longevity of any new material.

    M Kinsler
    512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
    [removed]~mkinsler1

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:05:47 -0400
    From: David <dbmartin5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Great Gildersleave movies?

    I was reading an article about this radio show and they stated that
    there were multiple movies made with these characters.  Have they been
    released or are shows on cable?  Eg. I have never seen them on TCM,
    etc.

    Just curious.

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:29:53 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-3 Births/Deaths

    September 3rd births

    09-03-1897 - David Rubinoff - Grodno, Russia - d. 10-6-1986
    violinist, conductor: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Rubinoff and His Violin"
    09-03-1901 - Mantan Moreland - Monroe, LA - d. 9-28-1973
    actor: "Rudy Vallee Presents the Drene Show"
    09-03-1910 - Grace Matthews - Toronto, Canada - d. 5-15-1995
    actress: Ruth Evans Wayne "Big Sister"; Margo Lane "The Shadow"
    09-03-1910 - Kitty Carlisle - New Orleans, LA
    singer: "Song Shop"; "RCA Magic Key"
    09-03-1913 - Alan Ladd - Hot Springs, AR - d. 1-29-1964
    actor: Dan Holliday "Box 13"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Proudly We Hail"
    09-03-1918 - Donna King - Salt Lake City, UT
    singer: (The King Sisters) "Horace Heidt and His Brigadiers"; "Al Pearce and
    His Gang"
    09-03-1922 - Burt Kennedy - Muskegon MI - d. 2-15-2001
    writer: Wrote for radio in late 1940s

    September 3rd deaths

    07-08-1889 - Eugene Pallette - Winfield, KS - d. 9-3-1954
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
    12-13-1917 - David Street - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-3-1971
    actor, singer: "Music Depreciation"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Jay Jostyn

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:10:00 -0400
    From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Challenge

              Here's a brain teaser for you:

              Which MGM movie used the OTR program "Information
    Please" in it?  (One of the main characters was the guest panelist.)

    Good luck!

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:10:37 -0400
    From: Mahlon Wagner <mwagner2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Zero Hour--Lights Out on TV

    Martin Grams Jr. recently mentioned:

    Lights Out on TV: EPISODE #95   "ZERO HOUR"    Broadcast on July 23, 1951

    I have done several searches for this on video or DVD and been unsuccessful.
    Would someone have more information on how to obtain this video?

    Many thanks
    Mahl Wagner

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 20:59:04 -0400
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A form of Soap

    Joe Mackey quotes the Jack Armstrong announcer
    admonishing us kids to make a friend of soap and water
    prior to our eating a bowl of wheaties with milk and
    fruit. I seem to remember it as "USE PLENTY" of soap
    and water. I was a friend already knowing of its
    existence from my days of momma dumping me and my
    brother in the [removed] *Grin*. Anyone else of the
    same ilk?

    CAB

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:00:02 -0400
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Media Bay 3Q Results

    In case anyone is interested, the financial status of old time radio in the
    mass market is included in the following press release from Media Bay,
    parent company of Radio Spirits.

    Sales are down, fyi.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:00:52 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bradbury episodes

    Martin already mentions broadcasts of Zero Hour and Mars Is Heaven by Ray
    Bradbury including:
    "MARS IS HEAVEN
    DIMENSION X (7/7/50) with Wendell Holmes and Peter Capel, later
    rebroadcast 1/7/51.
    ESCAPE (6/2/50) with Jeff Corey, Ian Wolfe and William Johnstone"

    +++++++++++++++++

    "Mars Is Heaven" on the 1/7/51 DIMENSION X episode was not a rebroadcast,
    but rather a new production with the same cast and scripts (NBC logs
    indicate that the play was "again transcribed"). The story was also heard
    on X MINUS ONE with a slightly different cast though some of the DX cast
    portrayed the same roles.

    An interesting sidenote on "Mars Is Heaven." When the concept for the
    DIMENSION X series was being developed, an audition of the series was made
    for the NBC brass. That audition was "Mars Is Heaven." But CBS had a 60 day
    option on the story, which they ended up using on the ESCAPE broadcast of
    June 2, 1950. The audition that NBC made (which was originally going to be
    the opening episode of the new series until they discovered the CBS option)
    was used for the July 7, 1950 broadcast.

    You can also hear a slightly different interpretation of "Mars Is Heaven"
    in a radio adaptation by Morton Fine and David Friedkin on the ABC Workshop
    (Think!). That version had a more ominous beginning and more poetical ending.

    Finally, "Mars Is Heaven" was NOT on BRADBURY 13. For a listing of those
    programs see Frank Passage's log on Lou Genco's site:
    [removed]

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:17:11 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Finderskeepers site

    Since my younger sister is not a subscriber to this Digest, I will make a
    posting for her.
    (I am also making this posting because I just received the third query of
    the day to my e-mail like the one below.)

    1.  Virginia's FINDERS KEEPERS web-site was temporarily shut down by
    [removed] by accident.  Apparently Homestead did a boo-boo and they
    promised her that they'll have her site back up in the next 24 hours.
    2.  Virginia did not get a chance to update the site like she wanted to
    before Homestead made their boo-boo, so once the site comes back up, please
    allow her a few hours to update it for the September/October update.
    3.  Things should be back to normal by Wednesday morning.
    4.  Lastly, yes, Virginia does have UP IN THE AIR from 1940 available on VHS
    and DVD - and yes the film does feature Frankie Darro and Mantan Moreland
    doing a soft shoe dance and a black face routine reminiscent of the radio
    show AMOS n' ANDY.  Some of the scenes were considered inappropriate because
    of the dance and black face routine but her print is the UNCUT print and
    remains unedited.
    Please give Virginia another day or two to update her site.

    If anyone has any questions, please e-mail her directly at
    finderskeepers102@[removed].  Virginia operates the business, not me.
    Thanks!
    Martin

>     I tried to access your sisters site to check on some possible purchases and
>     got response that the site is disabled.

>     I hope it is not permanently down as she offered some really wonderful
>     things. Will it return, has she moved it or is it gone?

>     Thanks for any information you can [removed] care and by the [removed] have
>     to say the Inner Sanctum book is really good. I just recently got a bunch
>     of episodes and it has really helped me to sort them out :) take care and
>     have a great [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:48:48 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

     From Those Were The Days --

    1931 - 15 Minutes with Bing Crosby debuted on CBS.

    Joe

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