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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 214


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	       OTR  Conventions
	 RE: Essential Shows
	 Johnny Dollar
	 New Bing Crosby web site (fwd)
	 Re: LETS PRETEND
	 [removed] WIL???
	 Herb Morrison
	 Re: SPERDVAC
	 Re: [removed] station list
	 Brace Beemer
	 The falcon

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Date:          Sat, 15 Jun 1996 21:11:02 4
From: apgar@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:       OTR  Conventions
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Are there going to be any OTR conventions held in the
New York City - Philadelphia area in the next year or
two.
  
Ronald F. Apgar
apgar@[removed]
  
"It's not easy taking problems one at a time
 when they refuse to get in line."
  
[removed]~hawkmtn/
  

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 96 18:42:44 -0500
From: Nathan Gregory <ngregory@[removed]>
To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: RE: Essential Shows
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Nathan Gregory * [removed] #[removed] ] --

>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:23:00 -0500
>From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
>To: otr@[removed]
>Subject: RE: Essential shows
>Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
>
>On Wed, 12 Jun 1996 22:26:38 -0700,  dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell) wrote:
>
>>It occurs to me that there have been several folks recently talking about
>>being fairly new to this hobby and wanting to know what to acquire. Maybe
>>it's time to revisit the "essential shows" list again. How's it going, Lou
?
>>Is it moribund, or have people continued to contribute?
>
>Visitors are still contributing, but I haven't run an interim summary in
the past few >days.  OTR Digest readers with WWW access can see the list and
vote on the candidates by >visiting my site.
>
>Observation:  Most recent visitors have been voting on candidate shows as
listed, rather >than nominating new shows.  This -may- mean the list itself
is fairly complete.  (but >then again ...)
>
>Folks just being introduced to OTR might also be interested in the OTR FAQ,
listed at my >site as well as the usual FAQ repositories.
>
>Lou
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>WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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I have been playing with an idea in my mind lately, and thought I 
would toss it out for the group as a whole to consider.

While pondering the idea of an "Essential Shows" list, I can't
help but think we can do something more interesting than simply 
provide a list.  And in today's Web savvy world, there are some
really interesting possibilities.  OTR has largely been a "stealth"
hobby that much of the public is totally unaware [removed]  Maybe we 
can get a little more awareness out [removed]  Lou's site has
attracted enough interest to show there is a market in the computer
crowd.

How about getting together to produce a CD-ROM of "essential shows"
in some compressed audio format as a non-profit activity
to make available to those newly interested in our passion.

The idea is NOT to undercut those folks currently making a business
out of selling tapes, etc, but rather to stimulate interest in
the entire OTR universe.  The idea is to provide a CD-ROM with 
a largish number of shows, and a number of vendor's catalogs, 
perhaps including Frank Passage's excellent show logs, and include
some spiffy graphics too.  There would be a lot of focus on the 
vast universe of shows available, with emphasis on encouraging 
the newbie to call up the vendors and order some more shows.
We could go so far as to provide Fax forms complete with Fax 
numbers of the vendors, so that the user only need make a couple
of mouse clicks to generate an order.  Perhaps one show from each 
of many series, with Frank's log and a link to the catalogs of 
OTR vendors selling additional episodes.  If done up as a 
spiffy "web page" designed to be accessed via a web browser, it 
could be really creative.

A CD-ROM can easily hold anywhere from 30 to 300 shows depending
on format and compression method chosen.  So depending on what
the final form looks like, we can include many actual shows,
and a ton of information to whet the hopefully soon to be
collector's appetite.  We might even offer shows in multiple
formats, with perhaps an MPEG recording and a RA recording,
so that those with fast hardware can play a high quality copy
while those with lesser hardware can sacrifice some quality
but still listen to the shows

If the quantities are small, we can produce a recordable CD on
as needed basis for under $10 (the price of media is changing
daily, but the last purchase I made was $[removed] each plus tax).
If quantities are larger, then we can get ~500 CDs made much
cheaper per unit.  I would suggest working with one of the 
CD-ROM producers such as Walnut Creek to get it into their 
distribution, but even if we just offer it on Lou's website
at cost, and produce them onesey-twosey, it should nonetheless 
be a good vehicle for stimulating OTR interest among the 
computer literate folks out there.

Of course, there are the obvious problems with copyrights, etc,
so we will have to select material with regard to it's legality,
but by enlisting the permission and assistance of established 
vendors, this problem should be minimized.  Think of it as an
advertising vehicle, not just for the participating vendors, but
for OTR as a whole.  The vendors featured on the CD would fund
the effort to produce the CD, and the whole thing would be 
designed to pay for itself.  It would be a shoestring venture
and the final CD would be sold really inexpensively, as there
would be no attempt to make a profit on it, merely to recover
the production costs.  The labor, artwork, etc, might be largely
volunteer, a labor of love by those of us who want to see OTR
enjoyed by [removed]  

Any takers?

Cheers,
Nathan

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 22:19:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: apcohen@[removed] (Albert P. Cohen)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Johnny Dollar
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Let me add another interpretation of the program title for the story
broadcast on March 5,6,7,8, and 9, 1956.  From the log provided by Radio
Yesteryear.

"The Plantagenet Matter"

For what it is [removed]

Al Cohen

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 21:51:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: AIRWAVES MEDIA <rrb@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed] (Old Time Radio)
Subject: New Bing Crosby web site (fwd)
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Forwarded [removed] posted to [removed]

   From: nuttypro@[removed] (Steven Lewis)
   Newsgroups: [removed]
   Subject: New Bing Crosby web site
   Organization: SkyNET Corporation

   [removed]

   Site includes Bing FAQs, Bing on radio, reviews of Bing's recordings,
   Bing on CD, books on Bing, Swooner vs. the Crooner and lots of photos.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 00:03:52 -0500
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: LETS PRETEND
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

A couple of readers mentioned -Lets Pretend- in the last few issues of the
OTR Digest.  Readers interested in the history of this show might also be
interested in _Let's Pretend_, A History of Radio's Best Loved Children's
Show by a Longtime Cast Member, written by Arthur Anderson.

The book includes info about the studio and cast, along with data on where
some of the cast members are now.  The foreword was written by Norman Corwin.

The hardcover book was published in July, 1994, and is is available through
McFarland & Company (910-246-4460), as are several other OTR - related books.

Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 01:17:21, -0500
From: DAVE@[removed] ( DAVID ALLAN   BOUCHER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: [removed] WIL???
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------

>  -- I'm a recent arrival on the list -- has anyone
> noted that the setting, cast, and story-line of WENN bears a strong
> resemblance to a book called WLT?

Wasn't it  WIL?


-------- REPLY, End of original message --------

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 01:54:20 -0500
From: vintage@[removed] (Andy Blatt)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Herb Morrison
Message-Id: <v01540b02ade95e675de0@[[removed]]>

Regarding WNEW and the Hindenburg (Herb Morrison).  When WNEW signed off,
the biographical information about the 68 years WNEW was on the air
included a reference and credits regarding Herb Morrison and the coverage
of the Hindenburg.  I always thought WNEW might have possibly picked up the
story from another station in another market (simulasting?) but it sounds
like they might have broadcast a recorded version of the event.  In that
case, my information was incorrect.  To be fair, Herb Morrison was not sent
out to cover the explosion but simply the sailing of the giant airship and
SUBSEQUENT and obviously unexpected accident which ocurred when they tried
to land the dirigible.  Needless to say, Mr. Morrison became well-known and
dirigibles less
acceptable as a means of travel.  I think today's modern day blimps are
related to the zeppelin family.

Andy Blatt
Vintage Broadcasts
Box 50065
Staten Island, NY 10305

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 03:02:18, -0500
From: BWWG42A@[removed] (MR JACK L PALMER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: SPERDVAC
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Jack Palmer * [removed] #[removed] ] --

Jeffery,
      I appreciate your great blurb on SPERDVAC, but it is not the only
old time radio club in the USA.  In fact, my major complaint with
SPERDVAC is that is a regional organization.  Although it has members
nationwide, most of its activities and all its meetings are in Calif. 
The only OTR club attempting to be nationwide is North American Radio
Archives (NARA) which also has a great library and a quarterly
magazine.  In addition there is REPS in Seattle; The Old Time Radio
Club of Buffalo, NY; The Golden Radio Buffs of Maryland, plus possible
a dozen others.  I would be happy to provide a list of most of the
active clubs to any interested party.  Just E-Mail me your request with
mailing address.    Jack

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 08:24:25 +0000
From: "C. HENDRIX" <chendrix@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: [removed] station list
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Here are two more radio stations that were not on your list that play
(a little) OTR:

KVMR  Nevada City  CA  7:00PM  SUN  [removed]  Verified
KXCL  Yuba City    CA  9:00PM  SUN  [removed] Verified

Dan Hendrix

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 08:48:32 -0700
From: [removed]@[removed] (Donald Dortmund)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Brace Beemer
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

     Brace Beemer did portray the Lone Ranger fro 1932-1933, then gave up 
     the part to Earle W. Graser. Mr. Graser died in a car crash on April 
     8,1941. The Lone  Ranger was broadcast 3 times a week and in immediate 
     need of a replacement. Brace Beemer, who was the announcer at the 
     time, was pressed into the role once again. The next two scripts were 
     rewritten and featured Tonto (John Todd) caring for a wounded and able 
     to speak only in a whisper Ranger. 
     
     However I have always had the impression, maybe only in my mind, that 
     the shorts, (the 15 minute ones) ie. the Origin of The Lone Ranger, 
     Grandma Frisbee & Dan Reid, Lone Ranger finds Silver,... 
     were re-created at a much later date. My main reason for thinking this 
     is that they were recorded or transcribed, while many of the early 
     episodes were not. Also if Fred Foy is the announcer (I don't know who 
     was the announcer) on any of the above episodes, that would prove they 
     were created after the mid 1940's. 
     
     
     
     
     ================================================================
     From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
      
     >That is a re-recording of a series of phonograph records that 
     >originally
     >were out in the 1950s or earlier on 78s or 45s.  I don't know who
     >originally packaged them together, but it has been around on tape and
     >vinyl as "Journey to Adventure," sometimes purporting to be the first 
     >LR radio show, which it certainly is not (For one thing, it features 
     >Brace Beamer as the LR.).

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:54:21 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Marcus Antonsson <marc-a@[removed]>
To: Old time radio digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: The falcon
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi friends,
A few weeks ago I purchased two albums (24 episodes) of the falcon
from Adventures in cassettes. The quality is fine throughout but all
the commercials are missing. As these were my falcon-shows (how many
are in circulation?) I don't have anything to compare with. Was the
falcon recorded without commercials or have AIC edited them out? Who
sponsored the falcon? All these shows stars Les Damon, I've read that
other actors played the role before him. Who were they? and are any
shows available with them? I would be very glad for some info about
this.

Best to all,

Marc Antonsson

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