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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 456

Table Of Contents: 

	 Audio Cassettes For Sale
	 Fat Man Correction
	 Jack Webb, Halls of Ivy
	 Paul Harvey
	 Re: Fat Man Movie
	 Phillip Marlowe Reviews
	 Burns and Allen TV show
	 Jack Flanders

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:03:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Audio Cassettes For Sale
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We're in the process of moving our office and have thousands of recorded
audio cassettes. They are mostly C-60s and C-90s. These are tapes that were
duplicated and then never sold or used.

Some tapes are masters that we no longer need.

They have not been errased and most contain lables. The material is mostly
form medical conferences. NONE are radio programs.

I want to sell these tapes at 10 cents each plus shipping. They are fine for
voice quality. All are standard oxide tapes in 5 screw shells.

If your interested, give me a call at (800) 747-0856 or leave me e-mail at
berney@[removed]

                                        Fred

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 10:21:35 EST
From: claughli@[removed] (Charles Laughlin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fat Man Correction
Message-Id: <[removed]@superior>

Dick is correct that the original plan was to make a series of Fat Man
movies, and Jack was all for it.  But just before the first movie was
released, but after it was mainly in the can, Hammett's doodoo hit the
circular fan, and Universal Pictures were presented with a problem.
Notice that Hammett's name was removed from the credits.  That's how
Universal handled the problem.  Ignore Hammett's existence.  But the
Hammett hulabaloo did kill off all the Hammett related radio programs
-- Sam Spade, the Thin Man and the Fat Man all fell away.  No, Jack
would have gone on quite happily to make more Fat Man movies, but the
oprotunity faded away.  The movie was released in 1951 and Jack died
January 15, 1960.  

Keep [removed]
Charlie
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:15:10 -0600
From: Cockrum <bcockrum@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jack Webb, Halls of Ivy
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I'm new to the Internet and have been lurking at OTR for the past week
... not so much lurking as ducking when the bulk of the discussion about
Jack Webb was going [removed]
	My own assessment of the discussion is that I'm not so interested in a
person's reaction to another's politics, but how those
politics/philosophies/personalities directly affected the program they
were connected with. Some of the comments were to that point, but much
seemed far afield. I don't like the politics/philosophies of, say,
Barbra Streisand or Shirley MacLane ... for those reasons alone, I don't
go to see their movies, despite their obvious talent. ... overall, I
figure I haven't missed much. But this then becomes my politics ... and
who really cares.
	-0-
	Now as to Jack Webb ... I agree that the '60s TV show was terrible ...
I remember one episode in which Friday and Gannon were investigating a
burglary, and Gannon starts spouting a list of anti-burglary measures.
It was like reading two month's worth of Dick Tracy Crime Stoppers
textbooks. The whole series seemed to be "preachy."=20
	Also laughable -- Pete Kelly's Blues ... Webb just didn't fit the part
on radio and it sure was obvious in the movie! He looked more like a
bugler in the Army with that ramrod posture, but not a jazz coronet
player. I guess this gets back to being a control freak who is really in
control as a producer or director.
	But boy did he shine on radio=92s Dragnet when the show hit its stride.
Those first episodes were awful to semi-awful with over-acting and
characters that weren=92t well defined =85 but later =96 even if you didn=
=92t
care for Webb=92s acting =96 you couldn=92t fault his production values. =
When
I taught radio production at Texas Tech in the mid-1970s, his was a
prime example of the best the medium could offer. I used to play
excerpts from the near-Christmas broadcast that=92s usually referred to a=
s
"The Missing Boy."  The sounds of the fence gate, a small plane
overhead, a dog barking in the distance, a squeaky screen door =85 and
when Friday called headquarters, that hollow sound of being in a phone
booth. Compare that with other well-acted series such as 21st Precinct =96
I recall the captain and lieutenant getting out of their car and walking
into a candy store. Trouble was, only one set of footsteps. While some
shows used sound effects to give an impression, Webb used them to give
you the reality.
	And going back to Pat Novak and Johnny Madero, I don=92t know if Webb wa=
s
playing those roles, if the whole shows were, for laughs. I just took it
as radio=92s imitation of the detectives in pulp magazines and paperback
books.
	-0-
	One final (aren=92t you glad?) observation =85 about The Halls of Ivy. I
enjoyed it then =85 as a  boy growing up in West Texas, the college glee
club singing "Halls of Ivy," the dulcet tones not only of Colman, but of
Ken Carpenter announcing, conjured up an image that was farther away to
me than a lot of other radio settings. We were away from radio, come to
think of it =85 the powerful stations we depended on at night were in
Dallas-Fort Worth (WBAP, KRLD) and San Antonio (WOAI) and a station or
two that would come in strongly from the Midwest.
	-0-
	About myself =85 I currently work for a regional dairy council (the =91g=
ot
milk? people) that serves a seven-state area out of its headquarters in
Arlington, Texas. Previously, I was with the Texas State Network for
about 12 years until TSN and flagship KRLD were sold in 1993 and about
three dozen of us found ourselves looking. I taught mass communications
courses at Texas Tech and another college =85 and prior to returning to
Texas, I worked about six years for United Press International in
Denver, back in the days when it was a real news service. I began my
collecting of old radio show during my first go-round as a student at
Tech. I worked for the local CBS affiliate =85 and it was about 1966 that
CBS explored making available some of the shows that had bowed out back
in the early =9260s=85the network did a closed-circuit feed of Johnny
Dollar, Gunsmoke and Suspense, so those were the first I had. When I was
in Denver I began buying and trading tapes with a man named George
Fowler, who started what was called The Great Radio Shows, Inc., and I
exchanged some with John Dunning, author of Tune in Yesterday.
	It's been nice chatting.

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:34:36 -0500
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Paul Harvey
Message-ID: <199611241334_MC1-C58-F708@[removed]>

>I was spinning my radio dial this evening and came across the last minute
>of Paul Harvey's broadcast on the ABC Radio Network. He was talking about 
>Sam & Henry and how some guy had convinced them that they could make it
big
>on network radio. Then Harvey said a la Bill Stern "that man went on to
>discover a little restaurant named McDonald's and his name was Ray Kroc!"
>What?????

Paul Harvey shares more than a style similarity with Bill Stern -- he also
shares Stern's habit of sometimes stretching the truth for dramatic effect.
 The fact that you couldn't find any reference of a connection between Kroc
and Sam 'n Henry or Freeman Gosden or Charles Correll is not surprising --
it's how Harvey gets away with these things.   While you can't verify he's
right, neither can you prove he's wrong.  And since Gosden, Correll and
Kroc are all dead ... who's to say?  

Take with a grain of salt.

Alan Chapman

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:58:12 -0800
From: Gerald Wright <gdwright@[removed]>
To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: Fat Man Movie
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Dick Lupoff said:

<There was also an intriguing low-budget "Fat Man" movie, also featuring 
<J. S. Smart in the title role. Quite a nice little pic.

<i have heard that it was intended as the first of a series of 
<B-programmers, but Smart died after making the first picture, and the 
<moguls in Hollywood decided to stop the project right there, rather 
<than try and re-cast the role.

The Fat Man (1951) movie also starred Rock Hudson, Julie London, Jayne 
Meadows, Emmett Kelly; directed by the great B-movie director William 
Castle. 

Leonard Maltin in his "Movie and Video Guide" indicates that this was a 
"one-shot film adaptation"; and J. Scott Smart did not die until 1960 
nine years after the film was released.

Gerry Wright
San Franciso

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Date: 24 Nov 96 16:39:08 EST
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Phillip Marlowe Reviews
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Phillip Marlowe, Adventures of.  Review #7 of 15
Starring Gerald Mohr.  From the cassette lending library of North American Radio
Archives (NARA)

NARA Cassette 7219 Side A, 2/7/50.  The Long Arm

Our hero is taking a shower when the telephone rings, mercifully ending his
attempt to serenade us listeners.  It is an ex con and friend who is being
framed for the murder of his ex wife.  The case unfolds in the mythical town of
Bay City where we meet the cast of characters who include a fat fry cook with a
deep secret, a dapper professional gambler and a mean cop.  The tag at the end
of the show for the rest of the Wednesday's upcoming shows sounds like good
listening.  Let's not turn on tv tonight.

NARA Cassette 7219, Side B, 2/14/50.  The Grim Echo

After a weekend of skiing, Phillip heads home but instead, gets snowbound in a
mountain lodge with a beautiful girl, a widow sick with rage and a jealous man;
all who for some unknown reason, hate him as soon as they hear his name.  This
is not your typical "Let's make angels in the snow" trip.  The distinctive voice
of Verna Felton is heard as the matriarch of the slightly off base family group.

That's 30 for tonight
NGC
Norman Cox 

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:54:30 -0600
From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <bratcher@[removed]>
To: NOSTALGIA-L@[removed]
Cc: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Burns and Allen TV show
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This is being sent to both Old Time Radio Digest and Nostalgia-L which is a
low traffic classic TV list.

Moderator: Please let this cross posted message go through!

Just bought 2 videotapes of the Burns and Allen show. One is 2 tapes with 4
shows including original commercials. The other tape is 2 shows with
original commercials.
Classic TV at it's best! Why don't local TV stations run this stuff anymore?
The shows run about 25 minutes apiece with commercials included. The
stations have room for local ads WITHOUT cutting the shows short. The only
way I can watch those Jack Benny, Groucho Marx, and other live (kinescope)
TV shows is to buy videotapes or find 16mm film prints of these shows. They
don't even run Make Room For Daddy ([removed] The Danny Thomas Show) just reruns
of I Love Lucy. Why is this? Don't people like these live classic TV shows
anymore? Folks, If I owned one of the UHF independent stations in Houston
I'd put this classic TV stuff on the air!


Robert M. Bratcher Jr.
E-mail to:
bratcher@[removed]
Record collector, 8mm, super 8, 16 and 35mm Film collector.
I like old radio's too.
Collins, Hallicrafters, National & Hammurland are my Favorites!

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:05:55 -0800
From: "JACK MANN" <jmann@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Jack Flanders
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Hi:
I got a catalog from the ZBS Foundation which
has tapes featuring Jack Flanders. They sound
interesting and I was wondering if anyone had
heard any of his adventures. Are these tapes
worth the very expensive price?

Jack



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