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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 30


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Ends and Odds - again
	 Strikes again
	 Re: BSR De-Clicker
	 SMACKOUT
	 OTR in Chicago
	 Re: Enlightenment to those who need it re:Shady Crook, Inc.
	 otr movie:here we go again
	 Re: Mercury Theatre
	       Greetings from Belize
	 Re: Don Imus and OTR?
	 RE: Michael Rophone
	 Re:  George Burns

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:06:25 EST
From: VULM45A@[removed] ( ROBERT W PAINE)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ends and Odds - again
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Robert Paine * [removed] #[removed] ] --

Item 1 - George Burns. Happy birthday to one of the few entertainers
left in the business. There are numerous performers in show biz but a
true entertainer is rare. I think of the distinction between the two is
like that of a welder and someone who welds: a welder practices a craft,
someone who welds has a lot to learn. 
 George Burns is a true craftsman in the entertainment field. He
doesn't just perform, he entertains. Happy birthday and many more. 

Item 2 - reel-to-reel tape. I have ten to fifteen boxes of tape from
when I worked for a radio-reading service. I don't know what condition
it's in but the plastic reels are good. I'll answer questions via e-
mail. One option is to buy tape in bulk - anyone who works in the
studio end will know what a "pancake" is - and spin it off onto empty
reels. 
 
Item 3 - Remember WENN.  Overall I was impressed with the show. A nit-
picker like myself who wants to know "why did they do this and how did
they do that?" would ask the following question: why did they use an
early mic - looked perhaps like a single or double button carbon -
while the others were using ribbon microphones (RCA 44's or 77's?)? Not
a criticism - just wondering. Any veteran engineers want to take a shot
at this one? 
 The audio console in the control room looked like it may have been a
composite or hand-built unit. Overall I think they did a good job
capturing the flavor of the time.

Item 4 - NBC Red-Blue-Orange, etc. nets - Check out Lou's Old Time
Radio pages for Barry Mishkind's articles. There is an excellent one on
radio networks that explains some of NBC's nets.

Item 5 - If I asked this before, please have patience; my mind isn't
working well due to freezing temperatures. I'm still looking for tapes
of Pearl Harbor coverage - all networks or local stations; Blue/ABC or
Mutual from D-Day or election night coverage - all networks/stations -
especially 1944. I prefer hour to hour coverage to excerpts but would
be happy with either. Also - tapes of Hartford Circus Fire - July 6,
1944 and ANY recordings from WTHT, Hartford CT.
  73, Bob KA3ZCI 

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 96 21:57 EST
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Strikes again
Message-Id: <m0teCRk-000JlkC@[removed]>

>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 06:04:00 GMT
>From: [removed]@[removed] (Marty Tabnik)
>To: otr@[removed]
>Subject:  Re:Shady Crook/Radiola and Shadow lawsuit both in V96 #24
>Message-Id: <96012023455829332@[removed]>
>
>MS> From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
>MS> message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
>
>MS> The point I'm trying to make here [removed] who you're doing
>MS> business with!  Hobbyist/dealers who serve the OTR community,
>MS> or money-grubbing corporate entities out to corner the market
>MS> for themselves.
>
>2.  Those "corporate entities" DO "serve the OTR community".
>
>1.  Anyhoo it's called capitalism.  If you don't like it, then
>        Try Cuba or China.
>
>
>MS> Don't do business with Sandy Hook/Radiola/Radio Yesteryear!
>MS> They tried to destroy the hobby!
>
>Can you back your claim with facts?
>
>
>MS> Of course this is just my opinion, I have no connection to
>MS> Michael Rophone or his vast empire
>
>I don't believe that you are an OTR hobbyist or
>        You'd know that "Michael Rophone" is an "in-joke".
>[No, folx, don't give him a clue.)
>
>

The pen of Marty Tabnik strikes again.  

Though I know this is going to be a futile exercise, as it is a
democratic country, I can't let this go unanswered.

Marty, Radio Yesteryear did try to corner a market - granted in your
legalistic terminology, perhaps Max Schmid's use of the term "destroy
the hobby" was a bit emotional - but these are the facts:

Radio Yesteryear aka Premier Electronics Laboratories of Sandy Hook, CT
sued at least nine collector/dealers for infringement of a license they
claimed to have with Conde Nast Publications of New York over their selling
of The Shadow radio programs.

The suit was filed in US District Court, District of Connecticutt on March 16,
1989 after signing an agreement with Conde Nast to manufacture and distribute
home-usage recordings.  Premier was demanding damages of $100,000 from each
defendent. Several of the defendents have been mentioned here and one, I
believe,
is actually a subscriber to this list.

First off, none of these defendents were sent "cease and desist" letters
prior to
the filing of the suits. Perhaps not required, but at least ethically one would
expect that an attempt to settle out of court more conducive unless they had
other
reasons in mind. 

Premier first requested a "pro se" answer from each of the defendents, but then 
rejected them claiming the defendents were in default and obtained default
judgements
against them.

One defendent turned over all of his Shadow tapes and the $[removed] he made
during the
contested period, but was still defaulted and included in the litigation.
Several
tried settling out of court but were refused.

Eventually, Conde Nast stepped in claiming Premier breached its licensing
agreement
by failing to allow Conde Nast to pursue any infringement claims on its own
before
Premier sued the collectors.  The contract stated that Conde Nast has the
exclusive 
right to litigate. They did not send their own cease and desist letters because 
Premier had asked them not to.  Then Premier turned around and litigated.
Conde Nast
said it had not consented to this breach of agreement and in fact that
Premier had
refused to cure its breach.

Eventually, Premier lost their rights to The Shadow.  Not sure what the
collectors 
had to pay, if any, but it all looks to me pretty much as if Premier had
blood on 
their minds when they entered into this whole affair.

If you want more facts, I suggest you read "War in the Oxide Trenches" by Bob
Proctor.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 96 19:04:31 -0500
From: Nathan Gregory <ngregory@[removed]>
To: "otr@[removed]" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Re: BSR De-Clicker
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Nathan Gregory * [removed] #[removed] ] --


> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:41 GMT
> From: midshires@[removed] (Andrew Emmerson)

> In-Reply-To: <[removed]@[removed]>
> >**Does anyone have a (BSR or Garrard) music recovery module?   This was a

> The good news is that these days you can get far better de-hissers, 
> de-clickers and azimuth correctors from Cedar; they are highly effective 
too.
> The bad news is they are definitely not in the hobbyist price range. 
Cedar do
> a mail-in service whereby they will process your recordings but  even this
is
> horrendously dear. Hopefully some audio studio owner who  reads this
Digest
> will offer a subsidised service on his Cedar equipment!  -- Andy.

I don't know about the Cedar equipment, and I don't have an audio studio,
but
I do have a fairly reasonable Digital Audio Workstation.  Being an avid otr
collector, I will make the following offer.  I will process any show not
presently
in my collection for free.  The only restrictions are, (1) This is a hobby,
so I won't take on more than I can reasonably do.  I do have a day job. 
About
one show per week, more-or-less, is all I will accept.  (2) "free"
means I won't charge anything for my time or the computer resources.  You
must 
provide all media, and SASE mailers both ways.  I will not *spend* money,
but I 
won't *charge* money either.  You pay all media and mail expenses.  (3) I
get to 
keep a copy for my collection.  (4) I reserve the right to withdraw this
offer
at any time, or to refuse anyone for any reason, or no reason at all.

I can easily de-click, de-hum, re-equalize, cut/splice garbage & commercials
, 
and in general clean up a recording quite nicely.  I'll make no guarantees, 
but since I am looking to augment *MY* collection, I will do my best work.
But if you don't like the results, tough.

If I have a show in my collection and you are merely looking for a better
copy,
I am more than willing to trade.

I can handle most media types, from cassettes to reel-to-reel, including 78s
(16" transcription disks would require special effort, and thus would have
to
be especially interesting.) and DAT, and will be adding a CD Recorder to my 
equipment shortly.  The way it works is like this, send me a copy of your
master,
and a blank of your preferred destination media.  Include SASE for the
return 
mail.  I will digitize the "master", process it thru the computer, and then
record it on the destination media.  Then both will be mailed back.  I will
NOT be responsible for your priceless master.  I assume NO responsibility.
If you send me your only copy of something, it is entirely at your own risk.

If you want to send me a show for processing, email with details, and I will
send you my address, etc, etc.  I am also willing to perform digital
restoration
of 78s and other types of old recordings.  However, this IS a hobby, so
let's
keep it reasonable.  I don't want to take on more than I can do and
disappoint
folks.

If you want to review a sample of the results, I have some tracks from
acoustic
78s that I have restored.  Send me a cassette and postpaid mailer, and I
will
record some before/after examples and mail it back.

Any takers?

Nathan
<ngregory@[removed]>

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:45:30 -0500
From: stevecap@[removed] (Steven Capsuto)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: SMACKOUT
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Tommy Hoover mentioned that he's looking for recordings of SMACKOUT (the
local comedy series that Jim and Marion Jordan did before FIBBER McGEE AND
MOLLY).  The only recordings I've ever heard of this show are fuzzy-sounding
fragments from 1931 collected on a BRC cassette along with the 4/13/35
premiere of FIBBER McGEE.  Does anything else survive?
___
Steven Capsuto, Philadelphia
stevecap@[removed]
WEB page: [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:14:48 -0800
From: MikeTimble@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: cdm01@[removed]
Subject: OTR in Chicago
Message-ID: <960121221445_23001824@[removed]>

Charles-

I think you're thinking of something called "Chicago Theatre on the Air"

The deal is, acclaimed local Chicago theatre companies put on radio plays.
The performances are taped before live audiences on Monday evenings at the
Douletree Guest Suites, 198 E. Deleware and are broadcast on Sundays on WFMT
([removed] FM) from April 14 to June 16.

Tickets are $20 (kind of steep I think) and are available throught he Court
Theatre box office (312) 753-4472.

Check out who's doing guest spots: Kelsey Grammar, Stacy Keach, John
Randolph, Gates McFadden, Arye Gross, Paul Winfield, Ed Begley, Jr., Richard
Kind, Gary Cole, Regina Taylor and Jeremy Piven.

My feeling is that these productions are more theatrical than true radio
plays. But, it's better than nutt'n.

Mike Timble
Chicago

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 04:41:25 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwaves <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: Enlightenment to those who need it re:Shady Crook, Inc.
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

	I was going to avoid flaming back until I re-read the moronic
responses to my post. After this I will just try to ignore this sort of 
thing and let the facts speak for themselves. FLAME ON!
 
On Sun, 21 Jan 1996 some Imus fan wrote:

> From: [removed]@[removed] (Marty Tabnik)
> Subject:  Re:Shady Crook/Radiola and Shadow lawsuit both in V96 #24
> 
> MS> From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
> 
> MS> The point I'm trying to make here [removed] who you're doing
> MS> business with!  Hobbyist/dealers who serve the OTR community,
> MS> or money-grubbing corporate entities out to corner the market
> MS> for themselves.
> 
> 2.  Those "corporate entities" DO "serve the OTR community".

	No, they serve the world at large. The OTR community is aware that
there are cheaper sources of the same shows, and many more shows to choose 
from elsewhere.
   
> 1.  Anyhoo it's called capitalism.  If you don't like it, then
>         Try Cuba or China.

What about North Korea?  Should I get a haircut?  Should I love it or 
leave it?  Eat an apple every day?  Get to bed by three?  If I want 
advice I'll call a psychic hotline!
	
Capitalism is a two-way street, seller *and* BUYER.  I prefer to do 
business with ethical people, not those who file nuisance lawsuits 
against their competitors for the reason of costing them big bucks for
lawyers. We're talking about a multi-million dollar organization going after
a bunch of part-time hobbyists attempting to break them.  I understand
several of these individuals, many whom I consider friends, had to shell
out $10,000 apiece in legal fees, just to answer the frivolous charges.
I wonder what the net for $[removed] cassette sales in a year is to some of 
these folks, who ARE serving the OTR community.  
After a judge combined all the cases into one, it was discovered that
the Radiola folks were not even entitled to file the suit in the first 
place!  They only had distribution rights. Conde-Nast, the owners of the 
copyright, put an end to the suit, but only after it cost OTR dealers a 
bundle. 
	These petty, mean-spirited folks can put their goods on the market.
But I sure won't buy from the likes of them!  This is NOT the type of company
I want to support.
       
> 
> MS> Don't do business with Sandy Hook/Radiola/Radio Yesteryear!
> MS> They tried to destroy the hobby!
>
> Can you back your claim with facts?

	See above.  This is what happened as I remember it.  With the 
permission of Joel Senter I distributed dozens of copies of the Defense 
fund information to listeners who wrote in. This was several years ago 
and I couldn't put my hands on a copy, so for FACTS I'll wait for Bob B. 
to post the Proctor letter, and perhaps clean up the details (if he chooses
to do so), since he was one of those involved. 
> 
> 
> MS> Of course this is just my opinion, I have no connection to
> MS> Michael Rophone or his vast empire
> 
> I don't believe that you are an OTR hobbyist or
>         You'd know that "Michael Rophone" is an "in-joke".
> [No, folx, don't give him a clue.)
> 
	Looks like you haven't any to spare!	

So satire is beyond your grasp, eh?  Let me help you. :-). Get it now?
OK you got me! Actually I lied. I *DO* know Mr. Rophone.  I helped him load 
the truck with transcriptions he "borrowed" from every station he ever 
worked at. (Aside to Mr Rophone *and* Mr Tabik - this is more satire.)

> Congrats to Don Imus on his climbing ratings in San Diego.
> (Wonder what'll happen when he finally gets an LA affiliate.)

	He'll trail ten points behind Stern like in every other market!
> ---
>  * SLMR [removed] * "Hill&Bill: Liar Liar & Pants-on-fire."  * Imuninamorning

	Let's stick to Franklin and Eleanor, shall we?

	Jeez, some people!    - Max Schmid

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:42:12 -0500
From: RPato@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
cc: RPato@[removed]
Subject: otr movie:here we go again
Message-ID: <960122064211_123622534@[removed]>

fellow hobbyists:can anyone tell me where i can get a copy of an otr movie
called"here we go again"starring fibber&molly,bergen&mc
cartyy,&gildersleeve(hal peary)? would much appreciate any help.

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 07:49:26 -0500
From: Charles Mazza <flash@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Mercury Theatre
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Thom Bray wrote:
>Can anyone give me an idea of the number of Mercury Theatre shows available
>to the collector? And does anyone have a good run for trade, or could you
>point me to a dealer with a good run of them?
>Regards,

Anyone with this info, please post to the digest as well. I'm sure many
newer collectors (like myself!) could use the help. Thanks in advance.

Regards

[removed]

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Date:          Sun, 21 Jan 1996 21:20:03 
From: belizbob@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       Greetings from Belize
Message-Id: <m0teNzP-0008WfC@[removed]>

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------

From:           Self </system>
To:             otr@[removed]
Subject:        Greetings from Belize
Date sent:      Sat, 20 Jan 1996 08:01:55

belizbob is Bob Witte, one of the group that founded the 
NE OTR convention in the early 1970's; also a Ham Radio 
operator and one of the ORCATS. I have a considerable 
collection, some of it here in Belize (San Pedro Town) and 
the balance in a Stateside office in Bronxville, [removed] I 
have been looking, for years, for Lorenzo Jones programs 
and Pepper Young's family- any sequences that immediately 
follow the segments that deal with Sam Young as Mayor 
setting up a children's home for retarded children and the 
enthusiastic response of the town to its introduction in 
their midst. I am convinced that the foreign instigator of 
the project is a crook and will defraud the town and Sam 
Young will be the goat. If anyone has such Pepper Young 
episodes, I would be eternally grateful if he would share 
them with me. I can trade an extensive collection of rare 
Vic and Sades!!!  Abrazzos, Roberto

    I didn't see this posting in the digest, but got great 
replies from old pals Ken Piletic and a message that I 
didn't receive from JAY HICKERSON- our genial leader!!! New 
friend Charlie Matkin posted the possibility of finishing 
the story line above---Aint E Mail great

    I am leaving Belize for a week, either tomorrow or 
Tuesday. The airplane is a tourist, and though I am a 
Belizean I must fly this foreign machine out of the country 
as it is being deported until it can return and get a new 
permiso. Governments are the enemy of the people. See you 
when I return. Saludos, Roberto!

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:31:47 -0500
From: LBohall@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Don Imus and OTR?
Message-ID: <960122103145_403293752@[removed]>

Re: The Don Imus congrats in the last issue. I'm sorry, can someone tell me
how Don Imus fits in with OTR?

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:04:43 -0500
From: Matthew561@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: Michael Rophone
Message-ID: <960122120441_302079530@[removed]>

 -=>> On 01-21-96  [removed]@[removed] (Marty Tabnik) wrote <<=-

 MT > Re:Shady Crook/Radiola and Shadow lawsuit both in V96 #24

 MT> I don't believe that you are an OTR hobbyist or
 MT> You'd know that "Michael Rophone" is an "in-joke".
 MT> [No, folx, don't give him a clue.)

I have a modest collection of 660+ hours of OTR, and consider myself 
an OTR hobbyist!  However, being a perennial "outsider" and humor 
impaired, I don't get the "joke" either.  I haven't done any ordering 
from Radio Yesteryear for quite awhile, but when the catalogs used to 
come, I took the little editorial blurbs at face value and assumed 
they were written by the person named as stated (the names seemed 
plausible enough without too much consideration).  It never crossed my 
mind that this was in fact both a nom de plume and an insider's joke

Okay folks,  give me a clue, it is hard to be unhip.

Matthew Drew

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:12:07 -0500
From: BKliene@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:  George Burns
Message-ID: <960122151206_403474059@[removed]>

In keeping with George Burns' 100th, Effanbee Collectors Society is
offering--
a George Burns doll.  George is 17" tall and smokes a cigar.  (No, not
really.)  He's only $99 and is accompanied by a free copy of George starring
in "The Sunshine Boys.
Barbara Kliene  

(I definitely don't own stock in the company.)

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