Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #373
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 11/20/2001 9:04 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2001 : Issue 373
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: The LOC Process                   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Re: KYW, WQJ, and 1920's Radio Artis  [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      FDR fireside chats                    [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      Aunt Jenny                            [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
      Unreleased shows                      [ Michael Nella <serialous@[removed] ]
      Fibber McGee                          [ Bruce Young <youngsphotos@[removed]; ]
      New Table Top MP-3 Player to play OT  [ "Kenneth Ruggles" <rugglesk@erinet. ]
      Bill Lipton                           [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Edith McCune                          [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      "Mysterious Traveller" author         [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
      OTR actors in TV                      [ "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed] ]
      Box 13 Question                       [ "Dave Marthouse" <dmart@[removed] ]
      Re: Abie's Discs                      [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Burgess Meredith - photo              [ khovard@[removed] ]
      Re:Hoarding                           [ TedOTR@[removed] ]
      RE: Finding Lost Shows                [ nicoll <nicoll@[removed]; ]
      Today in Radio History                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey5@[removed]; ]
      Re: Firefighters                      [ Alan Bell <bella@[removed]; ]
      a couple [removed]           [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
      FDR's fireside chats -- and a lot mo  [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      The cassettes/MP3 saga                [ "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed] ]
      HOARDERS                              [ "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:43:06 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: The LOC Process

    Fred Berney wonders,

>     Based on what is listed above, is there anyway I could get a copy of this
>     tape or at least listen to it?

    If you go to the LOC in person and register at the Recorded Sound
    Reference Center, you'd be able to listen to the recording you're
    interested in. You need to be working on a "specific research project the
    results of which will be made available to the public," (but I suspect if
    you were to report on the contents of the recording with an article for
    an OTR publication that would qualify).

    If you can't visit the LOC in person, it's possible to get a dub after
    securing written permission from the Intellectual Property desk in the
    NBC Legal Department. Contact Bryan Cornell, the reference librarian at
    the LOC, via the email address on the Recorded Sound Reference Center
    home page, supply the specific information on what you're looking to get
    a copy of, and he'll supply you with the necessary paperwork. You are
    responsible for contacting NBC yourself, but the LOC will advise you
    exactly who you must contact.

    Once you have the permission papers in hand, the base lab fee for LOC
    duplication is $86/hour with a one hour minimum, plus the cost of blank
    tape stock. The entire process takes about three months from start to
    finish if you don't run into any unexpected copyright hitches. Good luck!

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:44:29 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: KYW, WQJ, and 1920's Radio Artists

    On 11/19/01 10:35 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     I don't recognize the name or any of the call letters. Was this
>     a purely local radio "star"  from downstate Illinois or does anyone
>     else have any more information? I find it interesting that performers
>     were capitalizing on their radio fame this early.

    KYW was the most prestigious station in Chicago during the twenties -- it
    was the Westinghouse station for the city, and was well-known for its
    "KYW Midnight Frolic" program, on which Edith McCune made appearances.
    This was a late-night variety program built around first-rank Chicago
    radio talent, and an appearance on this program meant a Chicago performer
    had reached the Big Time. KYW was moved to Philadelphia in 1934 after a
    long and complicated legal controversy with federal regulators. (It was
    in Cleveland for a while later on, but eventually moved back to
    Philadelphia where it remains today.)

    WQJ was the Calumet Baking Powder Company station, licensed to Chicago,
    but with studios in Joliet, Illinois. WQJ's most notable historic
    accomplisment is that in April of 1925, it hosted the first broadcast by
    a new harmony team known as Correll and Gosden, who appeared to promote a
    variety show being presented in Joliet by the Joe Bren Producing Company.
    WQJ shared time with WMAQ, and was eventually bought by the Chicago Daily
    News and absorbed into the larger station.

    It's not all that unusual to find radio performers being promoted this
    early -- you'll often come across sheet music from the mid-twenties
    promoting "So and So, Exclusive WXXX Radio Artist." On a few stations --
    WEAF, KYW, WLS, WDAF, and other powerful outlets -- radio artists picked
    up a significant following long before networks. The Coon-Sanders
    Nighthawks Orchestra, out of Kansas City, is probably the best example --
    they started out playing locally over WDAF on a late-night frolic
    program, and became fantastically popular all over the midwest, and their
    personal appearances were widely promoted thruout the region. "Sam and
    Henry" were even more successful -- before they had been on WGN a year,
    Correll and Gosden were making personal appearances in the Balaban and
    Katz theatres at $2000 a week, and selling out every performance. Their
    appearances were invariably headlined "Exclusive WGN Radio Artists," and
    really made theatre managers stop and think about just how powerful radio
    was becoming.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:44:51 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: FDR fireside chats

    Ken asks,

    Does anyone know where I can get some information
    on the famous FDR Fireside Chats?

    FDR did 30 fireside chats, and here they are:

    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:44:18 -0500
    From: otrbuff@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Aunt Jenny

    Martin Grams Jr. inquired who was playing the role of Aunt Jenny in early
    October 1945.  That would be Edith Spencer, without any doubt, who
    portrayed the epicurean and homespun philosopher of mythical Littleton
    from the show's inception Jan. 18, 1937 until illness forced her into
    temporary retirement in 1951, five years short of the total run.  The
    show ended Nov. 16, 1956.  As Grams observed, Spencer was succeeded by
    Agnes Young, the only other actress permanently engaged for the part, and
    she carried it to the final day.

    Back to Edith Spencer.  When she initiated that role, her resume showed
    no distinguishing radio credits.  She made an early and distinct
    impression on future soap opera queen Mary Jane Higby (When a Girl
    Marries), however.  On one of Higby's first days in New York in the late
    1930s, she observed Spencer at the CBS lunch counter.  Higby had arrived
    in "Gotham" with one mission in mind--to become a serial heroine.  Aunt
    Jenny, she recalled, was dressed in mink-topped galoshes, hat, muff and
    coat on the very first chilly day of fall.  "Come hell or high water,"
    Higby wrote in her memoirs, "I intended to join that furry line-up at the
    lunch counter!"  It wasn't long, in fact, before she did just that.

    Only an unexplained, debilitating illness forced Spencer to eventually
    relinquish her role as Aunt Jenny.  Young had by then sustained recurring
    roles in several series--Meet Me in St. Louis, Mrs. Wiggs of the Cabbage
    Patch, Mother o' Mine, My Son and I, Snow Village and Young Widder Brown.
     She also appeared in the acting company of The March of Time Quiz.  In
    1972-73 she would have a bit part in television's The Guiding Light.

    I've included a picture of her in my book (page 9) taken in the kitchen
    where she baked all those delicacies for Danny Seymour's daily visits
    ("For all you bake and fry, rely on Spry!").  The series is featured as
    chapter 1 of The Great Radio Soap Operas.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:45:25 -0500
    From: Michael Nella <serialous@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Unreleased shows

    On this one subject, I was wondering what shows do we have a strong
    suspicion that people are hoarding. I once remember reading that someone in
    California had the entire run of I Love a Mystery shows. I think I also
    recall that this topic most likely was false. Still just curious of what
    might be out there.

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:45:36 -0500
    From: Bruce Young <youngsphotos@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Fibber McGee

    The show in which Fibber listens to programs of the past was done in a
    interview with Chuck Schaden of Chicago fame for his programs. There were
    several of them. I assume that these are available. The last address I
    have is: The Hall Closer, Box 421, Morton Grove IL 60053. I have heard he
    has a web site, but I have never found it.

    Bruce Young

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:45:00 -0500
    From: "Kenneth Ruggles" <rugglesk@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: New Table Top MP-3 Player to play OTR recordings

    I have been looking a long time for a "tabletop" standalone MP-3 player that
    would have built in speakers and CD player and that would play the older OTR
    MP-3's with lower bit rates such as those recorded at 24kbps or 32kbps,
    22khz. I was finally able to find one.  It is the Phillips Expanium MP3-CD
    Sound Machine (Models AZ 1150 and AZ 1155). It is a small boom box but it is
    the only one I have seen which will play MP-3's, especially the older lower
    bit rate ones.  I purchased mine at Circuit City in Dayton Ohio for about
    $140.  It also plays regular CD's and is an AM/FM radio with digital tuning
    and multiple pre-sets. You can operate it either with batteries or with the
    built in AC cord.  I'm very pleased with the sound.  I would like to find
    one which includes a clock radio that would have a sleep switch that would
    shut off in a certain number of minutes. If anyone knows if one exists, I
    would sure appreciate knowing where I could find it.

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:45:58 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Bill Lipton

>     Actor Bill Lipton (Let's Pretend, Road to Life etc.) died in Portland, OR
>     after a 40 year battle with Parkinson's disease.

    Bill also appeared in many science fiction episodes via Dimension X/X Minus
    One. Sorry to hear of his passing.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:46:16 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Edith McCune

>     You have heard these artists from stations KYW, WQJ, WBCN,
>     and WHT
>     <snip>
>     I don't recognize the name or any of the call letters.

    All Chicago area stations:

    WBCN - Foster & McDonnell Broadcasting
    WHT - Radiophone Broadcasting Corp, Deerfield, IL
    KYW - Westinghouse Station
    WQJ - Calumet Rainbo Broadcasting

    Edith McCune was from Sullivan, IL and did many dramatic readings,
    characterization, songs and monologues both on stage and on early radio.
    She would do dramatic readings of James Whitcomb Riley and Shakespeare, she
    performed in "Negro" and German dialect. She also taught voice as well as
    songs.
    You can read all about her as well as see a photo of her at:
    [removed];page=1

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:46:32 -0500
    From: ilamfan@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: "Mysterious Traveller" author

         Here's a neat little story - a few years ago, the
    audio performance troupe that I headed ("Theatre Of The
    Mindless")was scheduled to perform for a few nights near
    Halloween.  We had our typical assortment of OTR-type
    shows that we would perform, but I wanted to add to our
    repertoire.  So I recalled several stories that I
    remembered reading as a kid in the '70's, from a silvery-
    covered paperback titled "Ghosts And More Ghosts".  The
    stories were way above average kiddie ghost story fare,
    and I thought that they would make some great OTR-type
    adaptations.  However, somehow, I had LOST this great
    book during my youth.
         So, I finally discovered a copy at an online
    auction site, and bought it.  The stories were every bit
    as vivid as I remembered them to be, so I dug right in
    and began writing some versions to be done as audio
    plays.
         The writing was EXTREMELY easy-going, not many
    changes were required.  Typically books are not written
    for audio, and audio cues need to be skillfully written
    in to make scenes work properly.  This stuff was a
    breeze!  [removed]
          Several months later, I discovered that the author
    of the book (one Robert Arthur) was also the author
    of "The Mysterious Traveller" series.  I never had many
    copies of this show, but when I made the connection, I
    picked up all the shows that I could.
         "The Mysterious Traveller" is a great show, well
    worth a listen, mostly due to the superb writing talents
    of Robert Arthur.  As I listened to the shows, I
    recognized a few - right from my creepy old book!
         The indicia /copyright credits on the book
    list "Popular Publications" as the original releases of
    the stories, in the early 1940's.  Would this have been
    the "Mysterious Traveller Magazine" that is advertised
    in the radio shows?  I'll have to look for some issues
    and find out!
         Robert Arthur also wrote "Mystery And More
    Mystery", although this book has more detective-type
    stories than ghost-type ones.  Both books have a few
    tales that were done as "Mysterious Traveller" episodes,
    are THRILLING reads, and not that expensive - when you
    can find them.  Mr Arthur was also the author of the
    very popular "Alfred Hitchcock and The Three
    Investigators" series, which ran through the '60's
    and '70's.
         Just my ten cents' worth, cuz I think that these
    books belong on the bookshelf next to all the other OTR
    books.  I'm off to go look for some old issues of
    the "Mysterious Traveller Magazine".

    Stephen Jansen

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:46:46 -0500
    From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: OTR actors in TV

    ...the usual disclaimer still applies - I han't found my books just yet so
    I'll try to do this from memory.

    Some names are:

    Bea Benaderet (Burns and Allen, radio/TV; many others. Kate on Petticoat
    Junction)
    Elvia Allman (who was Selma Plout on PJ and had a pretty good resume from
    the radio side
    Willard Waterman and Hal Peary (The Great Gildersleeve's, both migrated to
    that "other" medium); Parely Baer (Chester on radio's Gunsmoke and numerous
    roles on the other side)
    Don MacLaughlin (Counterspy, et al, then long running role on As The World
    Turns)
    Eve Arden (Our Miss Brooks, radio/TV)
    Gale Gordon (Mayor LaTrivia on Fibber and Molly); Charita Bauer (Bertha
    "Bert" Bauer on THE Guiding Light, radio/TV)
    Theo Goetz (Papa Bauer on both sides)
    Barton Yarborough (Cliff from One Man's Family; also, I Love a Mystery; Ben
    Romero on Dragnet, radio/TV)
    Al Hodge (The Green Hornet, 1936-1942/3; Captain Video)

    George Burns and Gracie Allen
    Bob Hope
    Jack Benny
    Frank Nelson
    Ed Begley, Sr.; Jan Miner and Louis Nye, all alums of WTIC, Hartford, who
    went to network radio
    Eddie (Michael) O'Shea - another WTIC alum
    Ed Wynn

    Also, I think a lot of the folks from the radio soaps migrated to TV in the
    early years.

    Conrad Binyon and/or Harlan Stone, and Elizabeth would likely give you a
    more complete list.

     Macandrew

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:47:21 -0500
    From: "Dave Marthouse" <dmart@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Box 13 Question

    Hello Listers,

    I am interested in a show called Box 13.  I think it was syndicated from
    Canada.  Anyone with information about the background of the program, when
    and where it first aired and on what stations or networks etc.  Thanks in
    advance.

    Dave Marthouse
    dmart@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:47:28 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: Abie's Discs

    On 11/19/01 10:35 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     Also, is the estate of Ann Nichols holding on to the Abie's Irish Rose
>     program.  There are only 4 programs in circulation, and how they got there
>     is a mystery, and I know that somewhere, in someone's private (hoarding?)
>     library there are other AIR programs to be found.  Where are they?
>     (Elizabeth, can you help?)

    The four circulating "Abie's" programs come from WMAQ airchecks recorded
    by the Chicago Recording Company for the program's advertising agency,
    and were put into circulation in the 1970s by collector Larry Kiner, who
    had probably picked up the discs on one of his many purchasing
    expeditions. The discs for one of these programs (5/27/44) eventually
    drifted into my posession -- and I can tell you that it had very heavy
    wear and groove damage during each of the commercials, indicating that
    the commercials had been played over and over again by agency staffers
    whose primary concern with the recordings seems to have been to ensure
    that the advertising content was going over properly.

    Presumably the entire series was recorded in this manner -- but the
    condition of the surviving discs suggests the theory that most of the
    programs were discarded when the discs became unplayable. The show I have
    is recorded on Advance brand blanks, which I suspect was a wartime
    off-brand that used recycled aluminum platters (during the period when
    Presto and Audio Devices were using glass) and a coating of dubious
    quality -- they certainly aren't Presto quality, and I doubt that they
    had anywhere near Presto's durability.

    Whether the Nichols estate has its own set of discs or not I can't say --
    but I can tell you that the shows in circulation didn't come from them.
    If they do have discs, the "hoarding" is probably tied to the fact that
    the "Abie's" property is still very much under copyright. There are
    thirteen scattered episodes from 1942-44 in the NBC Collection at LOC,
    but permission of the Nichols estate would probably be required to access
    these, since they are the copyright owner of the material.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:41:22 -0500
    From: khovard@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Burgess Meredith - photo

    Some years ago, Burgess Meredith attended an OTR convention. If you were
    there and photographed him, I would  like to possibly use the photo in my
    book "Words at War" which Scarecrow Press will publish next year. Please
    contact me off line.

    Thanks,

    Howard Blue

    Khovard@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:09 -0500
    From: TedOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re:Hoarding

    Doug writes:

>     But there must also be lots of stuff out there
>     that was found in an attic or bought at an estate sale for $5, that is
>     hoarded just the same. Is there some general reason why people with
>     exclusive material will give copies to select individuals, but not want them
>     circulated?

    Sadly, some people will not circulate shows just for the satisfaction of
    knowing that they are the only one with the shows.  They get pleasure from
    people knowing that they have the material and not letting it out.  This is
    not only selfish, but foolish, in my opinion.  The more copies of a show
    circulating and the better the chances are that the show will survive.  What
    if someone had those 100 episodes of TOM MIX and never sent a copy to anyone
    else.  His home catches on fire and the material is lost forever.  In my
    opinion, the more copies out there, the better.  People have found shows in
    my catalog and claimed they were "lost" shows.  This is material I have had
    for over 30 years.  The reason it was presumed "lost" was the people that had
    it have died or lost interest in the hobby.  That way the show never was
    traded in the last 10 years or so.  I wouldn't have let it out because I
    haven't actively traded for years now.  So you see it wasn't hoarded - it
    just wasn't being traded.  Hope this answers some of the questions.

    Ted Davenport
    Radio Memories

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:04:03 -0500
    From: nicoll <nicoll@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: RE: Finding Lost Shows

    Doug Leary's note on finding a radio that plays OTR, plus reading about
    Fibber's radio caused me to dig through my "archives" for an article from
    everybodies favorite = "The National Inquirer."  I think it was from the
    1980's.  [removed]

    "Frightened Family Hears FDR Broadcast - Live.
    OLD RADIO PLAYS 1930S PROGRAMS"
    Of course, "telecommunications experts are said to be reeling."  "According
    to one highly placed insider, the experts have tuned in and analyzed some
    12 hours of programming that was broadcast nationwide is 1934, including
    Amos and Andy, the Rudy Vallee Show and Walter Winchell's Jergen's
    Journal."  "The set was discovered be two boys playing in the attic of
    their family's home in north Georgia."  ".....hadn't been plugged in since
    1934."

    Will Nicoll

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:13:17 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey5@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Today in Radio History

      From Today in History, 11/20

    In 1929, the first broadcast of "The Rise of the Goldbergs" was heard on
    the NBC Blue radio network; the title later would be shortened to "The
    Goldbergs."

    In 1913, actress-comedienne Judy (Juliette) Canova was born in Starke,
    Florida.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:51:08 -0500
    From: Alan Bell <bella@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: Firefighters

    Jim Murtaugh sez:

>     I recently came across a series that I
>     know nothing about.  It's called "Firefighters".  It's not mentioned in John
>     Dunning's book, and Vintage Radio Logs only says that it's probably from the
>     late 40's.  Does anyone have any more information about this series?

    The Radio GOLDINdex lists five episodes of the show. Apparently it
    was a syndicated show from 1948 from William F. Holland Productions
    Inc. The web site is [removed]

    This is a pretty neat resource, by the way. I've had it bookmarked
    for a while, but for some reason, only got around to checking it out
    yesterday. It's from J. David Goldin, who many of us may remember
    from Radio Yesteryear.

    Alan
    --
    _______________
    Alan/Linda Bell
    Grandville, MI

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:02:03 -0500
    From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: a couple [removed]

    I have been hearing references to a book called Vintage Radio Logs.  I
    want one.  Badly.  How much, and where do I go to get it?  And of course,
    as an afterthought, is it any good?

    I have decided I want to listen to a western show, but I'm not sure which
    one.  I have ruled out Gunsmoke, because I don't need to get involved in
    *another* series with hundreds and hundreds of episodes.  I have narrowed
    it down to two:  Frontier Gentleman, and Have Gun Will Travel.  My
    question is:  Which one do you think is better, and why?  I want to get
    the best show for my money.

    Thanks,

    rodney.

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:01:10 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: FDR's fireside chats -- and a lot more!

    Kenneth Clarke asked about the availability of President Franklin
    Roosevelt's fireside chats.  A few years ago I asked the same question and
    got the right answer.  I just tried to use the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library
    website, but the only part that works is the opening page.

    When I first asked the question, some kind person on this Digest gave me an
    address that worked:

        Franklin D. Roosevelt Library
        511 Albany Post Road
        Hyde Park, NY  12538

    I asked for and received a paper copy of their complete bibliography of
    recorded addresses of FDR.
    It is entitled:  "Recorded speeches and other utterances of Franklin D.
    Roosevelt, 1920-1945."  FDR Library, November 1979.

>     >From the AFL-CIO anthology on LP, I have many of the speeches and fireside

    chats.  An interesting note in the above bibliography talks about some
    recordings that were made of press conferences and visits with people in his
    office using some acetate material and a special recording machine
    manufactured by General Electric.

    Here is the URL for the website mentioned above:

    [removed]~wdowden/history/murray/rosevel/htm

    Ted Kneebone
    1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344
    OTR:  [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:01:25 -0500
    From: "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: The cassettes/MP3 saga

    Tom van der Voort wrote:

>     The major problem confronting all cassette users is speed variability.

    Au contrere, sir.  MY main problem is SPACE.  After several hundred
    cassettes and loads of those plastic holders and organizers, you have to
    find a place to put them.  My husband has fussed at me for years for not
    allowing him a wee, tiny corner in our bookshelves (and we have a lot of
    them too).  You'll have to admit, if you just want to listen to OTR and
    aren't too ridiculously particular about quality of sound, CDs do take up
    much less room in one's study.

    Jimidene Murphey
    "Keepin' It Alive"

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:01:53 -0500
    From: "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: HOARDERS

    With regard to this thread.  Ted Davenport and others have pointed out that
    if they received shows and that they had been asked to apply restrictions,
    then they would honour those restrictions.

    I totally agree that you do have to honour such restrictions.  Several
    reasons have been put forward as to why those restrictions may be there and
    I guess that it is fair enough.

    If the person wants to get as many trades as possible for those shows,
    amoungst a few people simultaneously, then maybe they can put a time limit
    on it, I don't know, maybe I am just naive.  When I first asked about the
    Hoarding I was thinking more on the greed side "its mine and nobody else can
    hear it" rather than on the "give me your word not to pass it on and I will
    let you have a copy".

    Elizabeth, I truly wasn't considering [removed] as a hoarder in that sense
    either.  They would have restrictions placed on them by the donators and by
    copyright etc.  You have mentioned in the past how helpful they are towards
    genuine researchers.

    Thank you to all the people who responded, it was great to hear points of
    view I had not been aware of previously.

    Ian

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