Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #84
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 3/14/2001 12:45 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 84
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     mary livingstone/joan benny splicing [chris chandler <christopher_c@email]
     Women in Radio                       ["Welsa" <welsa@[removed];        ]
     Re:Fred Flintstone                   [TedOTR@[removed]                     ]
     Batman                               ["Art Department" <wolowicz@[removed]]
     Re: RadioTV                          [Arthur Smith <agsmith_stl@[removed]]
     NPR's "Selected Shorts"              [dougdouglass@[removed]             ]
     Male and Female fans                 [Bev Keddy <nstn1173@[removed];   ]
     DECEMBER BRIDE                       ["Frosty R. Povick" <Frosty@prodigy.]
     A DIFFERENT KIND OF OTR REFERENCE BO ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
     MacDonald Carey                      [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
     Re:  FM and TV                       [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
     TV on the radio                      ["Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed]]
     [removed] Journal                         ["J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];]
     Re: Mary Livingston and Fred Flintst ["Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self]
     Re: New edition of "The Great Radio  [Brian Christopher Misiaszek <misiab]
     Badges?                              ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     Don't touch that dial!               ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     Re: Nick Lucas                       [Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed];]
     Fred Flintstone and others           ["Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet.]
     RE:Fred Flintstone in OTR            ["Tim Lones" <tallones@[removed]; ]
     Great Radio Heroes                   [Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];       ]
     #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [lois@[removed]                  ]
     Morton Downey                        [ClifSr@[removed]                     ]
     Wally Maher in the Movies            [Tom van der Voort <evan@[removed];]
     Anne Francis, Art Gilmore            [Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:35:59 -0500
    From: chris chandler <christopher_c@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  mary livingstone/joan benny splicing

    Tom Thomas read Joan Benny's SUNDAY NIGHTS AT SEVEN

>     She says that her mother Mary developed stage fright to the >point that in

    1950 she began to record her part of the show at >home with Benny on
    Saturdays, while she (Joan) filled in for >her mother at rehearsal and for
    the show itself. His daughter >says [removed]"when the show was aired her
    (Mary's)

>     voice had been spliced into the tape, so the listening audience >heard the

    real Mary Livingstone and not me." Is this a an >accurate statement?

    This DID happen, but NOT as early as the already-conflicting contemporary
    accounts would have it.  It certainly wasn't being done in 1950.  Evidence
    does indicate the splice-Mary method was in use by Benny's final radio
    season, 1954-55, and even then not every [removed] many episodes, the
    character doesn't appear at all (and is SORELY missed, by the way).

    As for whether the entire Benny PROGRAM was recorded and played
    [removed], just as almost everything else was by this late date. As
    early as Benny's first CBS broadcast on 1/2/49, the program was being
    recorded and played back on the west coast (both the east and west coast
    versions of this broadcast exist)...and by 1951, many of the Benny episodes
    were being recorded in advance for BOTH [removed] on those Sundays
    when Benny's radio and TV shows were broadcast with little time span between
    them.

> >     It seems like an impossible task to replace one person >>dialogue with

    anothers. What about the affect on the audiences >>laughter, sound effects,
    etc., that would betray the lack of >>continuity.

    Once they did start splicing Mary's voice, the effect is not as jarring as
    you might think--especially since the Joan Benny line readings rather
    obviously didn't provoke much hilarity.  The substitition IS [removed]
    you know to listen for [removed] I find it vastly preferable to having no Mary
    at all.  :-)  There's only one Benny show I know of which exists in both its
    raw and final [removed]'s the final 5/22/55 Benny episode.  The studio
    recording features Joan reading Mary's lines, and not very [removed]
    final version makes it appear Mary was right there by Jack's side.  (And of
    course, the many famous accounts of Mary's stage fright seem not to be
    [removed] has only to listen to her on some of the Benny road trips
    to cavernous theatres in Chicago or Detroit or [removed] is obviously
    terrified within an inch of her life!)

    chris

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:10:33 -0500
    From: "Welsa" <welsa@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Women in Radio

    I'm glad there are so many women enjoying this hobby.  But along the same
    line, I am involved with a re-creation group.  We have 104 scripts in our
    collection so far.  I can tell you that there was a real lack of women's
    role in those shows.  In looking over our library, only one show has more
    women than men in the cast--and two of them were children (it happens to be
    an episode of Father Knows Best.)  Not only there are fewer women's roles,
    but  it was by a wide margin.  I see ratios such as 7/2, 8/3, 12/1, 9/2,
    etc.

    I can't believe shows were written that way due to a lack of actresses.  Was
    this chauvinism at work?  Or is there a reason for fewer female radio roles?

    Ted

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:10:31 -0500
    From: TedOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:Fred Flintstone

>     Been listening to some Life of Riley tapes and the voice of one of the
>     actors sounds an awful lot like the voice of Fred Flintstone.

    I am sure everyone will jump on this one.  It was the voice of Alan Reed
    (Teddy Bergman).  You will find him in radio show after radio show.  He had a
    major role in LIFE WITH LUIGI.  In fact, his credits are way too numerous to
    mention here.  One of the true greats of OTR.

    Ted Davenport

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:10:29 -0500
    From: "Art Department" <wolowicz@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Batman

    I know there was at least one episode of a series called "The Batman Mystery
    Club".  The only episode I have ever seen was called "The Monster of Dunphy
    Hall" ( I believe).  It featured Batman and Robin as a Narrators.  They told
    a mystery story to a group of kids and withheld the solution to the mystery
    until "next time".  It was a 15 minute show.  I've never found another
    episode, so I don't even know the solution to the first mystery.  Go
    [removed]

    I have a copy on MP3 at home.  Feel free to email me if you'd like a copy.
    LEt me know if you find out any more!

    Shawn

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:01:15 -0500
    From: Arthur Smith <agsmith_stl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: RadioTV

    Hello,
    My re-introduction to OTR was by way of TV on the
    radio. When I was first on second shift, the custom
    was to listen to some lame music station on the radio.
    (lame meaning very bland music and equally bland talk)
    The group split into 2 buildings leaving one without a
    radio. I had an old off-brand clock radio (without a
    working clock) that I brought in. One evening while
    surfing the dial, up popped the Tonight Show. It was
    buried way down the dial, even farther down than the
    numbers would show, probably down even farther than
    the dial was supposed to turn. This led us to listen
    to many NBC shows. We also, through surfing, found
    Night Beat, Henry Aldrich, Man Called X and the newer
    CBS shows. Unfortunately, the old shows were on
    stations that often changed formats and disappeared,
    but it did lead me on a quest for more shows and the
    rest is history. Unfortunately, again, I am an
    animator, not a technician and most of my shows were
    taped on cheap equipment, using cheaper tape (after a
    few playbacks, my 30 minute tape could record 35
    minutes). Now I find myself trying to recreate my
    modest collection with my modest funds and thanks to
    many of you, I am on the right track.

    Art

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:01:17 -0500
    From: dougdouglass@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  NPR's "Selected Shorts"

    In the New York Metro area, "Selected Shorts" is heard on WNYC twice on
    Sunday.  AM-820 at 1:00PM and [removed] at 6:00PM. It's an hour program.

    ----Doug

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:01:19 -0500
    From: Bev Keddy <nstn1173@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Male and Female fans

>     Hello All,
>     I am a 37 year old female OTR [removed] have been a fan since I was 12 years old
>     Diane:-)

    I feel the same way, Diane.  I am 37 also, and began hearing OTR when I was
    about 12.  Most nights in its final half hour, the Canadian Broadcasting
    Corporation's As it Happens would run an OTR show.  It might be Boston
    Blackie, X Minus One, Inner Sanctum, or whatever.  I became hooked.

    I have been acquiring cd's full of shows from other fans and have a couple
    thousand shows, too.  I recently moved and really should hook up the
    speakers to my pc so that I can listen to some shows again.

    I love this list!

    Bev

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:10:36 -0500
    From: "Frosty R. Povick" <Frosty@[removed];
    To: OTR Rountable <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  DECEMBER BRIDE

    I'm taking time out from my meal of crow (medium well), to
    thank all of you who responded to my [removed]

    Oh, and a note to Richard: this particular Frosty is a "she".
    <smile>

    frosty

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:10:38 -0500
    From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A DIFFERENT KIND OF OTR REFERENCE BOOK

          There have been some great OTR books written recently and should be in
    every OTR buffs library,  But there is one book that has been published
    within the past two years, that is most entertaining. If you can remember
    the "Return With Us Now" series, then this book should be on your OTR shelf.

            The title of this outstanding 264 page book is RADIO'S GOLDEN YEARS.
      It is composed entirely od pen & Ink sketches describing each radio show.
    One page for each one. Written by professional illustrator Bobb Lynes, who
    does the art work for SPERDVAC Newsletter, who did the drawings, and Frank
    Bresee, who did the text, this book covers more territory on one illustrated
    page than most OTR books did in ten.  The forward by Norman Corwin is worth
    the most reasonable price of $[removed] post [removed] . . "Back to the years when
    the theatre of the mind entertained the world with comedy, drama, music and
    variety.  It informs you about the creators and stars of this great era"
    Norman Corwin.

          If you would like a copy, send your check/mo payable to Bobb Lynes and
    mail to:
    Radio's Golden Years
    c/o Bobb Lynes
    Box 561
    South Pasadena, CA 91031

                                   -  30  -
    Owens Pomeroy
    "That Nostalgia Guy"

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:10:40 -0500
    From: otrbuff@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  MacDonald Carey

    "Cynthia" inquires about MacDonald Carey's radio career.  Yes, he was
    very much a fixture on Stella Dallas, turning up there as one of the
    seven gentlemen playing Lolly-Baby's husband, Dick Grosvenor, Stella's
    son-in-law.  [Others:  Jim Backus, Spencer Bentley, Bert Cowlau, Michael
    Fitzmaurice, George Lambert, Carleton Young]

    Carey also refined his soap opera credentials before jumping to TV's Days
    of Our Lives on radio's Ellen Randolph, John's Other Wife, Just Plain
    Bill and Woman in White.

    Additional radio roles went to Carey on Family Theater, The First
    Nighter, Heartbeat Theater, Jason and the Golden Fleece, Young Hickory.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:09:40 -0500
    From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:  FM and TV

    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];

>     The FM band lies between Channel 6 and Channel 7.  Some radios
>     made outside the [removed] have a wider frequency range wider than
>     domestic.  With some radios, you may be able to hear both
>     channel 6 and channel 7 sound,

    Channel 7 is wwwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy far above the FM band at
    174-180 MHz.  The audio is at [removed] MHz and that is even above the NOAA
    weather radio band.  What you probably meant was hearing channels 5 and
    6, because 5's audio at [removed] MHz. is audible on radios that have the
    Japanese FM band which extends down to 76 MHz.

>     though two adjacent TV channels are rare.  Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

    Channels 6 and 7 are not adjacent, as was indicated by saying that the
    FM band was between 6 and 7.  But remember, there is a lot of space
    between the top of FM and the bottom of 7, and it is used for a lot of
    non-broadcast things.

    Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:09:42 -0500
    From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  TV on the radio

    I listened to the TV version of The Green Hornet on radio, shortwave at
    that.

    When the show debuted, for one reason or another I was tuning around 49
    meters and got the audio from then- WEMT-TV 7, Bangor, Maine. We were appr.
    40 miles slightly southeast of there but I don't think that accounted for
    the reception. I would be more than suspicious that our old tube-type black
    and white monstrosity was somehow responsible. Any set we owned was bound to
    have had an aberration or two in its operation. Could have been a spurious
    emission or something. Whatever, I heard The Hornet on my GE portable
    (transistor) and it came in quite clearly. I would pretend it was thirty
    years prior to that time (about right) and that it was actually the radio
    series. And yes, the pictures were much better on the radio.

      Bob

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:57:56 -0500
    From: "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed] Journal

    Is there a definitive log for the AFRS "[removed] Journal" show?  I'm attempting to
    locate the airdate for program #73, featuring Orson Welles.  Thanks.

    Regards,
    J. Alec West

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:14:36 -0500
    From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Mary Livingston and Fred Flintstone (no
     relation)

    A couple of responses here:

    1) Yes starting sometime in the early 50's Mary Livingstone did
    pre-record her lines. Joan filled in sometimes during the live
    broadcasts, but by the mid-50's she was probably busy getting married and
    having children, though I don't know for sure.  There were many shows
    during the 54-55 season that don't have Mary in them at all, as I've
    recently learned.  I have read that Mary's stage fright got worse as the
    run of the show went on that she eventually refused to do the show live
    after the possibility of transcribing the shows came into play.  I would
    say that her absense during later shows, and not being in them much when
    she was on them was a combination of hassles involved with splicing her
    into the shows, and that the writers had run out of letters from her
    mother for her to read.

    2)  Alan Reed (Fred Flintstone) appeared in many radio programs, just
    like most other cartoon voice actors from the 40's-60's.

    Rodney Bowcock

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:35:44 -0500
    From: Brian Christopher Misiaszek <misiabc@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: New edition of "The Great Radio Heroes"

>     Re Stephen Jansen's and  Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.'s recent comments:

    I just happened to get an E-mail back from Jim Harmon today (I was asking him a
    question about the availability of his "I Love A Mystery" recreation, THE FEAR
    THAT CREEPS LIKE A CAT), and he wrote the following lines to me that I've
    snipped
    out to post:

     My new revised edition of The Great Radio Heroes is out with a lot of
     material on ILAM and the other
     Morse mysteries.  McFarland, $35.  Also available directly from me,
     autographed.  (I make both the
     author's and the bookseller's commission if it is bought directly from me.)
         Thanks again.  Keep up the good work.

         Jim Harmon
         634 South Orchard Dr
         Burbank CA 91506

    Now, Mr. Harmon hasn't asked for me to post this, but it makes sense to me that
    ordering the book from him not only puts more money in his pocket, but also
    gets
    you an autographed copy of a book that is bound to be another classic.

    I know I've thumbed through my 1967 paperback so many times that it is
    falling to
    pieces, so that this second expanded edition, this time complete with photos,
    is
    an ideal purchase for fans of old-time radio mystery and adventure.

    ::Brian::

    web-master for the unofficial "I Love A Mystery" web-site
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:42:55 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Badges?

    Ken Piletic recalls,

> >     I heard the famous line:  "Badges?  We don't need any stinking badges!"

    repeated on radio many times, long before I finally saw a videotape of
    "Treasure of the Sierra Madre".  <snip> Unfortunately, the actual line
    was: "Badges?  We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges.  I don't
    have to show you any stinkin' badges."<<

    There are many lines that aren't faithful to their origins.  In none of
    the stories by Arthur Conan Doyle did Sherlock Holmes ever say,
    "Elemenbtary, my dear Watson," but that line is "quoted" frequently, on
    OTR and elsewhere.  A Lone Ranger adventure had the Daring and
    Resourceful Masked Rider of the Plains meeting Horace Greely and
    inspiring him to write "Go West, young man," whereas Greely didn't
    originate it: he ran another writer's editorial in his paper where the
    phrase was included.

    The slips in oral tradition made the invention of the photograph
    inevitable.:-)

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:42:50 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Don't touch that dial!

    Elizabeth E, commenting on my observation that the dials in the radios at
    our house didn't flicker, notes,

> >     Now, of course I knew someone would comment that the glowing dial

    didn't generally "flicker", but ours did. We were in Fairbanks, Alaska,
    circa1952, in the dead of a long 60-below winter (shades of Sam McGee!)
    with no sunlight all day, the huskies were howling at the aurora borealis
    flashing overhead, which phenomenon probably caused the fading in & out
    of the electricity & the radio signal from "Outside", as we alled the
    lower [removed];<

    Well, there were times when our electricity suffered from "curruntus
    interruptus" as well; however, when this happened, we didn't generally
    stare at the dial.  But Alaska is the one state I have yet to visit or
    live in, so I can't speak for the Alaskan Experience. :-)

    However, this brings up the whole thing of "on" indicators and lighted
    dials.  I had a Zenith tabletop AM/FM plastic-case radio that had a
    one-bulb dial light, front-lighting the dial.  Naturally, it doubled as
    an "on" indicator.  My great aunt had a cathedral-style _old_ radio with
    a backlit dial and backlit vernier dial.  My old Zenith portable, when
    turned on, had a little red indicator pop up at the bottom of the dial
    that had "ON" printed on it.  My Hallicrafters SX-38 had front-lit dials,
    as I recall.

    Nothing flickered, but there were a lot of ways to indicate that a radio
    was on other than tube glow and sound coming out of the speaker.

    Stephen A. Kallis. Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:28:37 -0500
    From: Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Nick Lucas

    Thanks, Mike Biel, for your interesting posting regarding Nick Lucas.

    You wrote:

>     There was a Nick Lucas record in my father's 78s which I found in
>     the attic when I was about 10, and I was enchanted by it.
>     ("Underneath the Stars" and "Rosy Cheeks" Brunswick 3518.)

    My introduction to Nick Lucas was much the same.  When I was 5, my mom gave
    me a dozen or so old 78s of her mother's, one of which was Lucas' "How Many
    Times"/"Sleepy Head".   I still have it.

>     Lucas had a light and gentle voice, and as I mentioned, he was
>     billed as "The Crooning Troubador.". . .So along with Gene Austin
>     and Whispering Jack Smith, Nick Lucas can also be credited with
>     using the microphone in developing the crooning style of singing
>     in 1925.

    Lucas was undoubtedly one of the first crooners.  I am happy to see Bing
    finally retunring to his proper place in the popular memory, but Giddins'
    book goes overboard: "Bing was the first singer to use words!"

> >     1930s re-recordings of "Picking" and "Teasing" are available on
> >     a Yazoo CD entitled "Pioneers of the Jazz Guitar."

>     That would probably be Brunswick 6508 recorded December 6, 1932.
>     It would be interesting to compare these with his recordings made
>     ten years earlier when they were revolutionary.

    In my opinion, the electrical versions are inferior.  His tempo tends to
    speed up, and the preformance is rather lifeless compared to the ebullience
    of the earlier Brunswick versions.

>     This is ASV Living Era AJA 5329.  The label's web site states that
>     the recordings were made between 1924 and 1939.  There are a number
>     of songs he didn't record during his main recording career which
>     ended in 1934, and one of the songs "Over the Rainbow" is from 1939.

    If this is the same as their LP release of the same name, the song
    selection is great, but I hope they re-did the transfers, for those on the
    LP are not good.  They evidently applied an analog de-clicker that was
    designed for LPs (and thus reacted too slowly for 78s), then they lopped
    off all frequencies above 4000 Hz or so.  Since the LP was released back in
    '83, they presumably have done better transfers for the CD.

    As I mentioned, I do know that Lucas hosted at least one radio show for
    CBS.

    Rob Spencer

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:28:40 -0500
    From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fred Flintstone and others

    Alan Reed, the original voice of Fred Flintstone, was a radio stalwart. He
    is best known for his radio alter ego, Falstaff Openshaw, the poet laureate
    of the Allen's Alley.

    As for dying radio stations, I can speak from personal experience that it's
    no fun working at a dying television station either. I worked at an
    independent in the Philadelphia market that slowly swung its way toward
    24-hours-a-day home shopping and the paychecks bounced twice. It got so that
    we all went to the station's bank, got cash in hand, and then deposited the
    cash in our own respective banks.
    And if we got paid at 11:03AM, by 11:04 you could swing a dead cat from a
    rope in the parking lot and never hit [removed]

    Brj

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:56:18 -0500
    From: "Tim Lones" <tallones@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE:Fred Flintstone in OTR

    Dave,
         The voice in question is probably Character actor Alan Reed who was the
    first voice of Fred [removed] had already been known in Radio long
    before the Flintstones came along. He was best known in radio for being
    Luigi's friend Pasquale in the Life with Luigi series and also the Mel Blanc
    Show (father in law I believe}Coincidentally Mel Blanc of course was Barney
    Rubble in the Flintstones. (If I am wrong in any of this please correct)

    Tim Lones
    Canton, Ohio

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    Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:42:22 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Great Radio Heroes

    Stephen Kallis Jr. writes:
     >>>>
    Normally, I wouldn't nitpick, but I did here to bring out the point that
    at least the initial offering from Jim Harmon should in no means be taken
    as a legitimate reference book.
    <<<<<

    To be fair to Harmon, he even states in his introduction in the first
    edition (which was written back in 1966, by the way - there was very little
    verification at the time) that "some of these recollections may be off a
    cat's [removed] look forward to hearing from all those who shared  these
    [removed] will help me clear the static from these [removed]"

    For me that is one man stating that this is a nostalgic trip not a
    referential one. I would suggest that Harmon was certainly one of the early
    pioneers among collectors who helped get this nostalgia trip rolling. For
    that I am thankful.

    I know Steve is merely pointing out that by no means should anyone take the
    book as a reference tool. Certainly Harmon did not intend that either!

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:52:00 -0500
    From: lois@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

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    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
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    over three years, same time, same channel!

    Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
    Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
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    KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
    KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
    and widow of actor Howard Culver

    (For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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    Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:15:57 -0500
    From: ClifSr@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Morton Downey

    Morton Downey, Jr. of trash TV fame in the 80's  has died of lung cancer.
    He was the son of a famous Irish Tenor.   Downey, Sr. was named radio singer
    of the year in 1932.  No doubt someone in the group can tell us what shows he
    was on.

    Clif Martin
    Muskegon, Michigan

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    Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:15:55 -0500
    From: Tom van der Voort <evan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Wally Maher in the Movies

          Anyone who wants to see Wally Maher, a prolific radio actor, on the
    big screen, should try to find a video of "Mystery Street" a 1950 police
    procedural directed by John 'The Great Escape' Sturges.
          Maher plays detective Ricardo Montalban's sidekick in a fairly meaty
    role.
          The film, which was shown in a beautiful 35mm print at the Library of
    Congress last night, also has a cameo by Willard Waterman as a mortician.
          The movie is excellent, by the way, with a lot of location shooting
    in the Boston/Cambridge area.
    Tom van der Voort

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    Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:29:48 -0500
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Anne Francis, Art Gilmore

    "Let's Pretend" and radio soap opera alumnus,  Anne Francis, wrote a book
    in 1962 entitled VOICE FROM HOME in which she describes her radio career.
    I have been unable to locate this book and would appreciate any assistance.
     Anne Francis has attended SPERDVAC Conventions and has been very gracious.
     You'll  recall some of her more famous movie roles in such first-rate
    films as "Blackboard Jungle," "Bad Day at Black Rock," and "Forbidden
    Planet."  Francis appeared on "When a Girl Marries" from 1943-1946.  Thomas
    DeLong in his book RADIO STARS (McFarland, 1996) refers to Francis as  "The
    Little Queen of Soap Operas." ([removed]).    [ She is not to be confused with
    Arlene Francis who was also a busy actress during radio's salad days, and
    performed on many soap operas, dramatic programs, and game shows.]

    Art Gilmore,  premier announcer and founding president of Pacific Pioneer
    Broadcasters, wrote a textbook entitled TELEVISION AND RADIO ANNOUNCING.  I
    am also trying to locate this volume.  He also has appeared at OTR
    Conventions and is most generous with his time.  His voice is extremely
    well known to radio, television, and movie trailer enthusiasts. He appeared
    in a continuing role on "Dragnet."

    Thank you.

    Dennis Crow

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: How could you forget Ms. Francis' starring role in the
    short-lived but fondly-remembered television series, "Honey West?"  --cfs3]

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