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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 176


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 ADMINISTRIVIA: WWW Page updates
	 Sealed Book
	 Re: NPR Services
	 Health Experts
	 Cassette Label Info
	 WJSV/Sundial
	 Looking for a book
	 Re: HORROR SHOWS ON RADIO & GENDER ROLES
	 Re: STAN FREBERG (Please note spelling)
	 Re: JACK PALMER'S "CORRECTION"
	 Re: DISC DISCOVERIES/MICHAEL UTZ
	 Logs Addenda
	 Making Cassette Labels-Randy Minnehan
	 Radio Ranch / "Phantom Empite:

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 09:34:28 -0500
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: ADMINISTRIVIA: WWW Page updates
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Recent updates to my WWW page include:

     * Adding Frank Passage's most recent log listing.  All of Frank's logs,
as well as contributions from several other loggers are listed at and
downloadable from my site.  If you have a question about OTR program titles
or dates, check my site to see if the program has a log.  Also listed are
addresses to log keepers who sell paper-version logs.

     * Updating the "Best and Worst of OTR" table.  Now called the "Best and
Worst and Most of OTR", three tables portray what OTR Digest readers
considered the "Best" and  "Worst" of several parameters related to OTR
programs, as well as the "Scariest Shows" and "Most Horrible Horror Series".
Does anybody want to start a list of "Most Mysterious Mysteries", "Funniest
Comedy Shows", "Soapiest Soaps" or "Furthest West Westerns"? (Grin)

     * Adding a pointer to Rich Novak's fledgling SPERDVAC page.  SPERDVAC
members:  please encourage the club officers to update their on-line catalog
at my site, and help add things to Rich's page.

     * Updating the "Stations Broadcasting OTR Today" list.  If you know of
a station broadcasting OTR that is not listed here, please send me a note.

     * Adding a few more soundclips to the "OTR Motifs" page (list of
various OTR shows, sorted by program type).  Check the soundbytes
accompanying the programs in which Jack Webb starred!

     * Adding a new navigation assistant:  Readers who click on the blue
"last update" prompt at the bottom of almost every page will access a list
of dates showing when each sub-page at my site was last modified.  You can
use this facility to see if a page has been changed since your last visit --
if you remember the date of your last visit.

The "Essential OTR Program List" continues to get nominations and votes. 

Welcome to Ed Carr - a name familiar to many OTR collectors.  Ed now has
internet access, and hopefully is monitoring this Digest.  Ed's email
address is listed at my site.

New Digest subscribers:  Please check the FAQ pages at my site to obtain
answers to many frequent OTR-related questions.


Lou
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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:26:18 -0500
From: bensmanm@[removed] (Marvin R. Bensman)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sealed Book
Message-id: <v01540b02adc0f8ee61ea@[[removed]]>

I have been asked the following. Can any of you answer this question? If
so, reply directly to John Carbo (E-mail address noted following) and
perhaps, post to this newsgroup so we can all learn more.

>From: "John P. Carbo" <jonc@[removed]>
>
>Dear Doctor Bensmanm:
>Greetings!
>I'm hoping Doctor that you can help me with a question that I have. I am a
>collector of mystery and drama programs with emphasis on The Mysterious
>Traveler and the Inner Sanctum Mysteries.  Recently I receieved a catalog
>which featured
>two editions of "The sealed Book" volumes one and two. I compaired all the
>program selections of The Sealed Book to my program log for the mysterious and
>found a complete match.  I know that the sealed book was a summer replacement
>from March of 1945-August of 45, with 26 programs being aired. I also know that
>the writers and director of the Mysterious Traveler were behind the making of
>The Sealed Book. I have two tapes of the sealed book in my collection, on all
>of these programs I can hear quite distinctly the voice of Maurice Tarplin
>as a
>principle actor.  Well, hear is my question: was the Sealed Book a collection
>of Mysterious Traveler of taped rebroadcasts which were smiply redubed and re-
>worked under the title of the Sealed Book or were they the program scripts of
>the Mysterious Traveler but used a new and different cast. I would appreciate
>any assistance with this mysterious.  If what I think happened namely that the
>the Sealed Book is in fact Mysterious Traveler programs this would add an
>additional 26 [removed] we'll see.

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*Professor Marvin R. Bensman, [removed], [removed]                              *
*Department of Communication; Office Phone: (901) 678-3174 or 678-2565 *
*University of Memphis        Fax: (901) 678-4331                      *
*Memphis, TN 38152                                                     *
*E-mail: BensmanM@[removed]                                       *
*
*
* See: [removed]  *

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Date: Thu, 16 May 96 12:12:17 EST
From: packerm@[removed] (MICHAEL PACKER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: NPR Services
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

          John Mayer expresses frustration at NPR services while
          trying to obtain a copy of an ATC show with Daniel Pinkwater
          on [removed]

          Please note, NPR audience services generally requires the
          DATE of broadcast in order to fulfill [removed]

          I was surprised Mr. Mayer would like to see NPR's funding
          cut because of [removed] If that were the case he never would
          have been able to hear the piece in the first [removed] Nor
          would there be "13 by Corwin", the upcoming NEW Corwin
          series, the forthcoming "Bob & Ray" series (including MANY
          pieces that have not aired in YEARS and are otherwise not
          available)... While there are MANY things to be frustrated
          with re: NPR (lack of foresight in programming, staidness)
          and especially the MADDENing aspects of CPB, it's a shame
          that one would wish funding cuts based on this [removed]

          Radio is not what it used to [removed] In fact it never was!

          Michael Packer
          packerm@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Health Experts
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

It is interesting that the health experts don't live to ripe
old ages. I have no idea how old Fredericks was when he died,
but Adel Davis and Gaylord Hauser weren't all that old. Rondale,
the publisher of Prevention Magazine, died during a guest stint
on a TV talk show (Merv maybe?).
A two liner that must date to before the 30s goes:
Patient: If I don't drink, smoke, or (insert favorite euphemism), 
will I live longer?
Doctor: No, It will only seem longer.

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 11:32:16 -0500
From: hhoward@[removed] (Henry Howard)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Label Info
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Ace Label Systems has cassette stock in both sheets and rolls.  612 933 3105.
Good products.  (I have had difficulty with recent orders arriving on
schedule and/or
credit for returns.)

Their product can be ordered in small quantity from Soundd Investment, in
Chamblee,
Georgia.  800 659 8273.  This is "THE" supply house for Atlanta.

Audico Label Corp also has product  708 456 0003.

I am sure there are others.

 
+++++ Henry Howard == The Atlanta Radio Theatre Company +++++
+++++    [removed]   or/artc /audiocraft     +++++
+++++               Produced at Audio Craft  (770) 923-7955
+++++
======================================================= (2)

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 11:59:42 -0600
From: bigsteve@[removed] (Steve Darnall)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WJSV/Sundial
Message-Id: <v01530503adc11c10130b@[[removed]]>

All this reminiscing about WJSV reminded me that I was "foolish" enough to
order my tapes of that day from the Wireless catalog--all well and good,
except they removed the first 30 minutes of "Sundial" (the 30 before Arthur
Godfrey came on). I'd be happy to trade for that half-hour, if anyone can
isolate it (from the rest of the day) for me.

The WJSV tapes are fascinating, to be sure, not only for the soap operas,
but also because it points out that not every program that aired during
that era immediately went down in broadcast history. I love "Columbia
Workshop" (I've got one on in the background as I write this) but I'd be
pressed to find anyone who remembers "The Joe E. Brown Show"...

Steve Darnall

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:56:07 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Marcus Antonsson <marc-a@[removed]>
To: Old time radio digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Looking for a book
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi friens,
Here I am again with a question on behalf of my friend and fellow-
collector Kent Hagglund who doesn't have a computer.
Kent, who's is a great fan of Orson Welles, is looking for a book or
rather booklet, entitled:
Orson Welles, the radio years,
published by the museum of broadcasting, a few years ago, probably in
connection with some exhibition. It seems to be out of print now.
If anyone of you has it and would like to sell or trade it to him for
some cassettes, please drop me a line and I'll mediate the contact.

Regards:

Marc and Kent
The Swedish otr-collectors

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 13:59:28 -0400
From: FabFicBks@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: HORROR SHOWS ON RADIO & GENDER ROLES
Message-ID: <960516135926_536556327@[removed]>

Hi Everybody,
     Erik raised some interesting points in his discussion of the horror
genre on radio, however he did leave out a few other programs including (just
off the top of my head):

WITCH'S TALES     This was a very early effort, which was hot stuff in the
mid thirties, but which dates very badly over the years.  Even by the mid
forties these stories were pretty pedestrian.  The last of adequate musical
bridges and somewhat abbreviated sound effects greatly hurt this program as
well.  Haunted houses, ghosts of evil dead, revenge with supernatural
overtones are the primary focus of this show.

THE WEIRD CIRCLE  A syndicated effort which I find inifinitly boring.  This
is just my opinion.  Other people find nuggets of terror in the muck, and
perhaps they are right.  But generally these plots seem stale to me and the
acting seems overdone.

THE SEALED BOOK  I dunno how you missed this one.  This was a 1946 effort
which was syndicated with incredible success in the early sixties when the
first radio revival was underway, and for many people this was their initial
contact with the essence of old time radio.
     The program ranges the field from weird menace, to supernatural terror,
but it also has more than its share of crime dramas and greedy scheming human
menace plots  with twist endings.
     The same people who did The Mysterious Traveller worked on The Sealed
Book, so the same quality is exhibited thruout.
     Incidentally Erik, you must not have listened to very many Mysterious
Traveller shows for you to rate this so poorly.  MysTrav was one of the best
horror and suspense shows on the air.  You must had gotten a bad batch or
something, try more, they're great.

THE UNEXPECTED   A 15 min series of weird, bizarre and unique stories almost
all with twist endings that completely alter the story conclusion.  This is a
gimick but it works very well.  I don't know how many of these are around. I
have perhapsd twenty or so.

THE STRANGE DR. WEIRD  Another fifteen minute show with a mixture of horror,
supernatural mystery, crime menace and unique endings.  The same people who
did Mysterious Traveller and Sealed Book also did this one. Very enjoyable.
 About forty or so are around as I recall.

NIGHTFALL   I don't know how you mised this CBC series. This is straight
horror, and they make no bones about it.  There are some classic supernatural
story adaptions, but most of this stuff is new and raw and very vivid.  One
of the best horror series ever aired on radio, with genuine chills
guaranteed.  I believe there is a log of shows and dates care of Frank
Passage on Lou's radio web page.

NIGHTMARE  I only have a few of these.  I think it was syndicated.  The shows
are adequate, mostly supernatural with vengeance themes.

MYSTERY PLAYHOUSE   I only have three. These were to be radio adaptions of
the terror & menace plays produced by the Theater Grande Gigroude (or however
it is spelled) the famous Paris theater of blood and thrills.  These are
terror stories rather relying on supernatural horror elements.

GHOST STORIES   There may  be some connection between the radio series and
the famous bedsheet mag of the 1920's of the same name.  The stories are bad
enough to be turned out by the magazine crowd.  These are putrid.  Radio (and
pulp magazine writing) at its worst.

THE BLACK MASS   is a British series which mostly seems to adapt famous
supernatural stories of literature.  I was not much impressed.  The spirit
seems to be missing here, if you'll excuse the expression.  The shows sound
tired and pedestrian.  Even good stories are turned into lackluster radio
adaptions.  There are a few exceptions, but I was not much impressed by this
series.

     I'm sure others have already pointed out that a new batch of Quiet
Please shows is on the market.  Ron Barnnet, I believe, is selling these.
 There are about five reels total now out there.  This was the best of the
horror shows on radio, in my opinion.

     Another couple of things you should remember is that horror on radio as
in most mainstream fiction, occupies a very low priority on the entertainment
scale.  At any one time period only one or two shows would be producing what
could be called horror.  Anthology programs such as Suspense and Escape and
the like presented horror from time to time as part of their total story mix,
but the general demand of the listening public for a program devoted to
horror was limited, at best.
     Even in the fields of popular literature the number of publications
devoted to horror has always been small.  Weird Talesd Magazine hovered on
the brink of banruptcy the entirity of its existence, and at any one time one
or at best two horror magazines were all that were out there.
     The success of selected horror movies thru the years does not imply any
great groundswell of demand for horror on the part of the movie going public.
 A horror movie every now and then to break up the stream of westers,
romance, adventure, detectives, comedy and musicals in the movie going diet
was statistically insignificent.  The bulk of Hollywood's production was in
the direction of mainstream entertainment, and the success of horror
accounted for a very small percentage of the output of movies in general.
 This did not really change until the science fiction boom of the early
1950's spun off hoards of monster and assorted horror movies with SF
overtones.
     In addition, you are looking at these programs from a l990's angle.
 There has been a shift, a dramatic shift, in emphasis since the twenties and
thirties in how horror is viewed by the public.
     In those early days the writers/producers were satisfied often if they
could somehow convince the audiences that the element of supernatural
involvement was believable and real.  Some critic has pointed out that
thruout most of [removed]'s writings, this is the thrust of his story
plots.  If Lovecraft had written Dracula, the last line would have been "My
God! He really WAS a vampire!"
     In the intervening decades, with monster movies and science fiction fads
of the fifties and sixties fueling the movie and TV screens, the public no
longer has to be convinced of the basic element of suspension of belief in
the supernatural.  Now the setup is, monsters, supernatural horrors exist,
what is happening to the people who encounter them.  That viewpoint was not
the prevelent one during the era when radio was a popular entertainment
medium.  Your viewpoint is shaped by years of watching splatter movies and
creepy thrillers on the big and small screen, and you are trying to project
your modern viewpoint onto entertainment from a different era which usually
does not proceed from your established basis of development.
     On a different theme, someone commented on the structured gender role
models the soaps portrayed for women in the thirties and forties.  Let me ask
this: has that gender role model really changed much in the 1990's?  Women
today are still expected to achieve marriage, develop a family, care for
their hubbies and keep the household running.  The responsibility of
maintaining a marriage still rests with the woman.
     nybody who thinks maintaining a household in clean and orderly fashion
is out of style hasn't seen asny daytime TV advertising.  Effectiveness of
product and the speed with which those cleaning and waxing products work is
still being stressed.
     The widespread popularity of modern labor saving devices such as washing
machines, vaccuum cleaners, microwave ovens, dishwashers, drip dry &
permanent press fabrics and etc may have made the work load of women easier
to bear, but it seems to me that modern economics has simpily shifted the
burden even more heavily on the feminine sex.
     In the old, OLD days a wife, and the children as well, were expected to
help in the fields and garden to bring in the crops when the need arose.
 Now, with extra time on her hands, modern women are expected not only to
raise a family, care for their husbands, keep up the place of abode, prepare
the meals, maintain the clothing in clean and neat order, but also she is
forced to go out into the world and hold a job of work, just for the modern
family to make ends meet.  I fail to see any great advancement here.
     Thruout the ages the roles of men and women have always been to find
gainful and productive enployment, develop lasting romantic relationships,
and raise families in an envourment of security and peace.  I don't think
those goals have changed much for either gender over the centuries.

---Bob Jennings

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:03:29 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: HERITAGE4@[removed]
Subject: Re: STAN FREBERG (Please note spelling)
Message-ID: <960516140329_492368592@[removed]>

Let me try, as a broadcaster, to clear up the FREBERG mystery!
RHINO Records IS going to issue a sequel to THE HISTORY OF THE [removed] which
will
be issued under the same title with an added "Part II".
This has been in the works for over a year. The CAPITOL disc mentioned by one
person
is a re-make of the original LP that they made years ago!
The new RHINO CD set will be all brand new. In talking with our rep. at
RHINO, the
set was originally planned for a pre-Holiday/July 4th date LAST year, but
Stan was not able to get the necessary studio work done. I believe everything
is in readiness now for
a release date very shortly. We hope to do a special with RHINO on our show
on
YESTERDAY-UISA Radio Network. If you have any further questions I can help
with,
feel free to write, or tune in our show on YUSA Satellite Radio and on the
WWW.
TOM HEATHWOOD, Host
HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:16:36 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: HERITAGE4@[removed]
Subject: Re: JACK PALMER'S "CORRECTION"
Message-ID: <960516141636_492376777@[removed]>

RE: Mr. Palmer's recent correction and "Sorry [removed]" put down - you
sir, are the one in error. See my detailed note on the subject elsewhere in
the DIGEST. You might
at least learn to spell Stan's last name correctly as you study the disc
"right there in
(your)hand".
<<TKH>> YESTERDAY-USA RADIO NETWORK

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:21:19 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: Heritage@[removed]
Subject: Re: DISC DISCOVERIES/MICHAEL UTZ
Message-ID: <960516142119_492379490@[removed]>

If you have disc that need transferring we will do it for you. Contact me if
you have any
16" or 12" ET's around the house/attic. They need not be "network" discs to
be of 
interest---there's plenty of OTR from the local stations that makes great
listening today!
TOM HEATHWOOD, Host
HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE -Yesterday-USA Network. Now also on the www.

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 13:27:09 -0500
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Logs Addenda
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

OOPS -

Forgot to mention in my last note that I have added Ian Dickerson's fine log
of -The Saint- to the collection at my site.

Lou
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Date: Thu, 16 May 96 13:18:05 EDT
From: ekindred@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Making Cassette Labels-Randy Minnehan
Message-Id: <m0uK8dC-000Y7SC@[removed]>

I use Avery's Label Program and their brand labels for video faces and spines.
This program will also handle Avery's line of audio cassette labels. The
program is intuitive and easy to use. It gives you the flexibility of printing
as few as one label from a page and picking its location from that page.
Staples and Office Depot are ordering sources. I have seen the video labels
stocked in BEST BUY and at a considerably lower price. Wasn't looking for
audio labels so don't know. There are cheaper labels available but for me as a
video dude I needed the flexiblility of their program and some of the other
suppliers had a different format and less flexible programs. Crazy to print a
page of labels when one is all you want.
************New Subject*******
I have been listening to some of my Jack Benny Rose Bowling tapes from AIC and
realize that the hittem between the eyes, bang em over the head style of the
40's commercials stick with you as much, maybe more than todays subliminals.
With those ads you remember the name of the product. Some of todays are so cute
you remember the commercial but not the product  After  50 years  "round and
firm and fully packed, free and easy on the draw". not to mention LS/MFT. Yep,
firmly planted.
Happy Listening,
Ed

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Date: Thu, 16 May 96 15:03:25 -0500
From: "Treasure Mountain  Electronic Publications" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Radio Ranch / "Phantom Empite:
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Wed, 15 May 1996 10:14:27 -0500,  Bruce Rudesill wrote:

>"Radio Ranch" was the scene of Gene Autry's first starring movie. The
>incredible twelve chapter serial "The Phantom Empire". This delerious
>chapterplay managed to mix science-fiction, hillbilly music, cowboys,
>airplanes, tin robots that would have felt right at home in Oz and topped
>it all off with a bunch of kids who rode around wearing capes and buckets
>on their heads. Personally I regard it as the high point of Autry's film
>careere. In later years he degenerated into making mere "farm" pictures.

And (no offense) this description doesn't even begin to suggest the marvels of 
this serial--my all time favorite!  Terminally goofy and completely wonderful.  

I don't suppose there was a radio [removed]

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