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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 172


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Gunsmoke w/Culver
	 One Man's Family In Australia
	  Critic's Choice Music                                                 
	 Re: Canticle for Liebowitz
	 Re: Gunsmoke pilot
	 GUNSMOKE
	 Remember WENN
	 Yet more Kryptonian Kinda [removed]
	 Mug not Mugs
	 more on Dick & Bert
	 Bradbury 13
	 Re: many voices
	 The Little things In Life
	 Re: Cloak and Dagger
	 Real Audio
	 Gunsmoke
	 Cassette Buyers' Group
	 Subject: Gunsmoke

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:12:43 -0400
From: stevecap@[removed] (Steven Capsuto)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gunsmoke w/Culver
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Marcus Antonsson <marc-a@[removed]> wrote:

>I've got an episode of a series called gunsmoke, but it's not the
>gunsmoke we all know and love so well. This program is from 1949,
>three years before the other gunsmoke started. The head character's
>name is Mark dillon not Matt, and it Stars howard Culver instead of

You have an audition show (what we would now call a "pilot" episode).  In
addition to the Culver episode (was there one or two, I forget), there are
also some Australian episodes of GUNSMOKE in circulation, which, of course,
have a cast different than the [removed] episodes.
___
Steven Capsuto, Philadelphia
stevecap@[removed]
WEB page: [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:28:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Ouzts <jouzts@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: One Man's Family In Australia
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

We are looking for any/all information related to the One Man's Family 
scripts (reportedly the first 150 episodes) which were exported to 
Australia sometime in the mid-1930's. 

Any information will be appreciated.

Jim Ouzts

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Date:    13 May 1996 09:30:38 PDT
From: <RRDENTRY@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject:  Critic's Choice Music                                                 
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

To: [removed]@[removed]                                                 

FROM: Dennis Menard                                                             
SUBJECT: Critic's Choice Music                                                  


Some months ago, some kind soul posted the address for "Critic's Choice         
Music" (I think) as a source for a Phil Harris CD entitled "That's What I       
like about the South."                                                          

I would very much appreciate if this address could be posted again, as I        
seem to have misplaced it.  Thanks in advance.                                  

Dennis                                                                          

       Dennis Menard (403-667-5283)                                             
       Renewable Resources - (R3-A)                                             
       10 Burns Rd, Whitehorse, YK.                                             
       Internet: rrdentry@[removed]                                             

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:08:38 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Canticle for Liebowitz
Message-Id: <v01520d03adbd2f880f1d@[[removed]]>

Alex Pissalidis wrote:

>the excellent sci-fi radio drama called A Canticle for Liebowitz?

Wow! I had no idea there was such a thing. That was a *wonderful* sci-fi
story. One of the best ever written, if you belive a survey of the Science
Fiction Writers Association of America. I've twice read the novel based on
the original story, though I've never read the story itself.

I'll second that request. I'd love to hear it. Anyone out there have it?
Know where to get it? Of course, there *is* a PBS/NPR website. I'll have to
check in there and see if there are any leads.

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:08:34 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Gunsmoke pilot
Message-Id: <v01520d01adbd2c073c38@[[removed]]>

As you've no doubt heard already, the Gunsmoke episode with Howard Culver
is apparently the PILOT for the series. It has a few members of the stock
company that made up the later series ([removed], Howard McNear, etc.) and it
also features the ever popular, ubiquitous cartoon voice, June Foray, too.
I just happened to listen to it the other day for the first time in
probably 20 years and found it to be an interesting attempt to cross the
bridge from the juvenile westerns like Lone Ranger to something more adult
in nature. It doesn't quite make it, but it's close. The Dillon character
is pretty standard issue, straight arrow type, and doesn't approach the
world-weary but doggedly honest and reluctantly violent Dillon of Conrad.
Pretty decent show and an interesting precursor to a classic.

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Mon, 13 May 96 11:21 PDT
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: GUNSMOKE
Message-Id: <m0uJ2FY-0003KQC@[removed]>

To Marcus Antonsson and others who are interested:


>I've got an episode of a series called gunsmoke, but it's not the
>gunsmoke we all know and love so well. This program is from 1949,
>three years before the other gunsmoke started. The head character's
>name is Mark dillon not Matt, and it Stars howard Culver instead of
>William Conrad. Does anyone know anything about this program? Was

The single cut you have was the audition record for Gunsmoke, which was to
star Howard Culver.  When Howard's contract with Mutual Network would not
let him accept the starring role in Gunsmoke, due to his playing the lead
for "Straight Arrow" for that network, the title role was then given to
William Conrad, and at that time the marshall's name was changed from Mark
Dillion to Matt Dillon.  I believe you have your dates confused, however,
altho I dont remember offhand the correct dates. 

Lois Culver
(Howard's widow)

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:52:14 -0700
From: Rick_Botti@[removed] (Rick Botti)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Remember WENN
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

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 There is a new cable TV show called Remember WENN, that takes place in a radio 
station called WENN circa late 30s early 40s. It's aired every Saturday at 6pm 
EST, and then rebroadcast at 1am. This is a new show made fro the AMC (American 
Movie Classics) network. 

You might call it WKRP for the OTR set, But I enjoyed it. 


Rick Botti
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 17:01:25 -0400
From: CardiacRx@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Yet more Kryptonian Kinda [removed]
Message-ID: <960513170124_534367641@[removed]>

Since it's been a topic of late, the Superman cartoons from the 60's as well
as the SuperFriends 'toons are rerun on the USA network M-F at 7:00am Eastern
time, FYI.

Up up and awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 17:20:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: <rjones@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Mug not Mugs
Message-Id: <[removed]@mail>

If it makes any difference to anyone, please permit me to correct myself.
I reported yesterday that Arthur Godfrey's secretary was "Mugs"
Richardson. Wrong. She was singularly "Mug," and she may not have been a
secretary at all. The 1951 WASHINGTON RADIO AND TELEVISION DIRECTORY
published by Washington-Baltimore Local of AFRA (wasn't yet AFTRA) has
Mug's picture and designation as "Radio and Television Producer." The
directory was a publication in which broadcasters bought ads to promote
their services. . .Some devotess of Middle-to-Late radio might be
interested in what Godfrey wrote as advice to up-and-comers in his ad:

	After more than 20 years in this business, I've
        learned a couple of fundamental, truthful things
        that may help.

	You can kid something publicly only if it is 
	fundamentally good. That goes for people,
	products, or institutions.

	Same thing goes with lines, gags, or songs.
	Sometimes it's tough on creative writers and
	producers. But I would rather be "corny" than
	putty in the hands of a Broadway gag or song writer.

	If you don't believe in what you are saying or doing,
	you'll always be just another name in this directory.

	Good Luck!

                                           (Bob Jones)

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Date: Mon, 13 May 96 16:05:00 -0600
From: [removed]@[removed] (MEADE FRIERSON)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: more on Dick & Bert
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

If I may continue a thread, I posed the question of Dick and Bert to
Dick Orkin and would like to present his answer below.

> Date:  12-May-96 20:19 EDT
> From:  Richard Orkin [74250,110]
> Subj:  care to answer?

> Bert's last name is Berdis.

> I had a radio feature and commercial company in Chicago called
> Dick Orkin's Creative Services Inc (DOCSI). Bert, who worked for
> a local agency, joined me as a writer and producer (and later as
> a performer) in 1971. Under the DOCSI corporate name we marketed
> our 2-man spots as Dick & Bert.  We moved to Hollywood in 1978
> and in 1981, Bert left and created a company with Alan Barzman
> (Bert & Barz). I renamed my company Dick Orkin's Radio Ranch
> ...and I am at 1140 N La Brea, Los Angeles, CA. (for details,
> check web site: [removed]).

> Our style was, indeed, somewhat influenced by Bob & Ray, Freberg,
> even Jack Benny, but the most significant influence was the
> Second City/Viola Spolin Theatre Games sound and style of the 60's.

> There is not a compilation of Dick & Bert spots.

>  Thanks for asking. Dick Orkin

   To which I replied:
 1: Thanks for the info.  I'll post it for your many fans.
 2: /exit

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:40:57 +0000
From: "George S. Cole" <us030822@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bradbury 13
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Does anyone out there in radioland know if this excellent series is 
available commercially.

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:55:02 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: many voices
Message-ID: <960513205458_490400491@[removed]>

When I was a kid in New York there was a local morning personality named Phil
Cook. He did the voices of every one of his characters every day on WABC
(later to become WCBS).

BILL KNOWLTON

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:54:59 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Little things In Life
Message-ID: <960513205457_490400452@[removed]>

Bob, this was part of an unsuccessful attempt to reintroduce radio soaps, in
the 70s, I believe. There were four fifteen minute soaps, daily, including
Peg Lynch's "The Little Things In Life." WOR, NY, carried all four from 3 to
4 pm. Sadly, it failed.

Bill Knowlton, "Bluegrass Ramble", WCNY-FM, Syracuse NY

PS: WLS National Barndance singer Patsy Montana died last week, age 88. She
was the first female to sell a million records: "I Want To Be A Cowboy's
Sweetheart". And Grand Ole Opry veteran, 84 year old Bill Monroe is
recuperating from a mild stroke. Prognosis is not good for his returning to
entertaining. He's been on the Opry since 1939. Sad to hear of Don McNeill's
passing too. 

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:03:21 -0400
From: OTRadio2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cloak and Dagger
Message-ID: <960513210320_490407482@[removed]>

In digest 171, Marty asked about the Cloak anda Dagger series.  I'm looking
at Jay Hickerson's "Ultimate [removed]" book and in it he's got the series
to have run from 5/7/50 through 10/22/50.  It ran on NBC.  Jay indicates that
all 21 shows are available.  You'll have to ask Jay where they might be
available from.

Hope this helps

Darrell Boomgaarden

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:10:56 -0400
From: SeptSev@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Real Audio
Message-ID: <960513211055_112929955@[removed]>

Friends:
Has anyone else had problems downloading Real Audio for Mac?  Would someone
on AOL who uses a Mac be willing to send an E-mail with an attached file of
this program?(I use a Performa--so if you have a Power Mac it won't work.) I
simply can't get it to download from the link on Lou's page.

Regards
Thom Bray
septsev@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:10:59 -0400
From: SeptSev@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gunsmoke
Message-ID: <960513211058_112930009@[removed]>

Friends:
I believe the GUNSMOKE with Mark Dillon was what we would call in TV the
"Pilot" or presentation episode. The actor and character's name was changed
after the show was bought  Am I right about this?

Regards
T Bray

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 22:59:20 -0700
From: Mike Hamm <[removed]@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Buyers' Group
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Our cassette buyers' group is looking to add 2 new members from the 
midwest area of the country.  This group receives a set of cassettes 
of OTR every month, and circulates it in a round-robin fashion.  There 
are annual dues plus a monthly fee for this group.  If you are willing to 
make this kind of commitment, please send me e-mail, and I will send more 
information.

Mike Hamm
[removed]@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:06:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Fields <mfields@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Subject: Gunsmoke
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Marc wrote "I've got an episode of a series called gunsmoke, but it's not the
>gunsmoke we all know and love so well. The head character's
>name is Mark dillon not Matt, and it Stars howard Culver instead of
>William Conrad. 

The show you are referring to was actually a test or audition tape for
Gunsmoke. I have two other recordings of the same show with other actors as
well as the one you mentioned. Apparently they mixed several different
voices until they came up with the perfect team.

Mike Fields

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