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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 326
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Great Gildersleeve                    [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      "And Here's the Cinnamon Bear"        [ crow8164@[removed] (Dennis Crow) ]
      Post Toasties                         [ Jim Harmon <jimharmonotr@[removed] ]
      Cinnamon Bear Quilt                   [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      11-18 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Gildersleeve - Easter                 [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
      Cinnamon Bear Quilt Errata            [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      "Robert Hall" Radio Commercials?      [ "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed]; ]
      And Now A Show From Our Sponsor       [ Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed] ]
      OTR In The Flicks                     [ Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed] ]
      Longest OTR show name                 [ DanHaefele@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:14:01 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Great Gildersleeve

    Answering John Collins' call, Harold Peary also played the role of
    Gildersleeve in the following two movies:

    COUNTRY FAIR (1941) feature length movie

    and

    COMIN' AROUND THE MOUNTAIN (1940)  feature length movie

    In the MOUNTAIN movie, Peary plays the role of "Mayor Gildersleeve."  Keeping
    in mind that he wasn't a water commissioner at that time as on those early
    appearances on Fibber McGee and Molly, his occupations changed from episode
    to episode.  Also, UCLA only has four of the seven or eight reels, making
    COMIN' AROUND THE MOUNTAIN sort of difficult to view in complete form.  At
    the Mid-Atlantic Nostalgia Convention, a friend supplied a print of the
    complete movie (and where he got it still puzzles us) but to see Turner
    playing that one anytime soon isn't so likely.

    Peary also played Gildersleeve in the film short UNUSUAL OCCUPATIONS from
    1944, though mentioned by name he played the character in character complete
    with the famous Gildersleeve laugh.  He did the same for a film short, "ROAD
    TO VICTORY" and "THE SHINING FUTURE" (same short, just retitled depending on
    what country and what print you want.  Peary also played the character a bit
    in one of the many SCREEN SNAPSHOTS film shorts from the 1940s and 1950s.

    Like radio programs, some movies and film shorts are just not easy to find
    and acquire so when the opportunity arrises to see any of the above I
    mentioned, go and watch them.

    Martin Grams

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    Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:24:28 -0500
    From: crow8164@[removed] (Dennis Crow)
    To: [removed]@[removed] (Old Time Radio Digest)
    Subject:  "And Here's the Cinnamon Bear"

    Danica is right on!  Thanks Danica for your support of Paddy.

    As readers know, this is Paddy O'Cinnamon's 70th birthday.  Recently I sent
    you an address where you can print the songs and a map of Maybeland.  In case
    you have forgotten, here it is again.  Thanks to Charlie Summers, we all have
    this opportunity.   The address is
    [removed]

    Here is how I would set up  the program's 26 episodes (Danica anticipated
    me). Play the first 15 minute episode on Thursday, November 29.  Listen with
    your whole family to the program each day through Christmas Eve - Monday,
    December 24th. The story approaches its climax on Christmas Eve.

    You are going to have fun.  There are eleven original songs with reprises of
    two. You can sing along as a family and follow the adventures on the map.
    What a superb treat for all of you.

    Let me know if I can help you in any way to celebrate Paddy's birthday.
    Forget your cares and the world's problems.  Escape with Paddy O'Cinnamon,
    Judy and Jimmy Barton, and the Crazyquilt Dragon into Maybeland. Drink from
    the cup of childhood magic and wonder!

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:24:40 -0500
    From: Jim Harmon <jimharmonotr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Post Toasties
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    I must be older than Jack French, remembering further back. Post Toasties
    were around since the turn of the century, and were called Post Toasties for
    many years. For a very brief time they were called Post's Corn Toasties, and
    they only reverted to Post Toasties on the House of Mystery program.
    This series was dedicated to debunking the supernatural. Seemingly
    supernatural or ghostly events were revealed to have a logical, mundane
    explaination. However, the lead up to the rational explaination was sometimes
    pretty scary to me. I remember one story about a haunted railroad spur where
    people frequently saw a dark angel flying about the tracks. The explaination
    was a moth caught inside the headlight of one of the regular locomotiives on
    the line, and the insect cast its winged image in the beam. The moth lasted
    for several days, according to the story, although that is pretty unlikely.
    -- Jim Harmon

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    Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:26:09 -0500
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cinnamon Bear Quilt

    "Danica L. Stein" <furrygirl@[removed]; asked:

>     I have a question for Cinnamon Bear expert Dennis Crow! Isn't the
>     series supposed to end on Christmas Eve? [removed], wouldn't you always
>     play Episode 1 on November 29, Episode 2 on November 30, etc.;
>     regardless of when Thanksgiving falls?

>     I want to get it right, in honor of Paddy's 70th anniversary! Thank you!

    I'll seize this opportunity, if I may, to mention the beautiful
    Cinnamon Bear quilt done by Barbara Andrews using the magnificent art
    [removed] well,  >ahem<  modesty forbids my commenting on the quality of
    the art. But it is the same art used by First Generation Radio
    Archives on their webpage and in the distribution of the CD (with my
    permission, unlike a certain other site). I did the art in black and
    white originally for the broadcast of the serial on a local public
    radio station and colored and revised it at Ms. Andrews' request to
    serve as the motif for one of her excellent quilts. Ms. Andrews, by
    the way, won first place in some sort of world quilting smack-down a
    couple of years ago in London. She uses a process that dyes the image
    all the way through the fabric rather than simply printing it on the
    surface.

    She has sold very few of these quilts, but one satisfied customer is
    the self-same Dennis Crow, probably the world's foremost expert on
    the Cinnamon Bear. You see the quilt at her website
    [removed], but if you think
    you'd like to give one of these heirlooms to some lucky young person
    contact her right away as there is a great deal of time-consuming
    handwork involved. The Radio Archives site for the Christmas serial
    is [removed].

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    Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:28:04 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  11-18 births/deaths

    November 18th births

    11-18-1836 - William S. Gilbert - London, England - d. 5-29-1911
    composer: (Gilbert and Sullivan) "The Railroad Hour"
    11-18-1860 - Jan Ignace Paderewski - Kurilovka. Poland - d. 6-21-1941
    concert pianist, statesman: "Paderewski's Eightieth Birthday Tribute"
    11-18-1888 - Frances Marion - San Francisco, CA - d. 5-12-1973
    screen writer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-18-1899 - Eugene Ormandy - Budapest, Hungary - d. 3-12-1985
    conductor: "Roxy's Gang"; "Phildelphia Orchestra"
    11-18-1900 - Don Quinn - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 12-30-1967
    writer: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Halls of Ivy"
    11-18-1901 - Dr. George Gallup - Jefferson, IA - d. 7-26-1984
    statistician: "Living 1948"
    11-18-1907 - Gwen Meredith - Orange, Australia - d. 10-3-2006
    writer: "Blue Hills"; "The Lawsons"
    11-18-1908 - Imogene Coca - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-2-2001
    comedienne: "Big Show"
    11-18-1909 - Johnny Mercer - Savannah, GA - d. 6-25-1976
    singer: "Camel Caravan"; "Johnny Mercer's Music Shop"; "Dinah Shore
    Show"
    11-18-1912 - Arthur Peterson - Mandan, ND - d. 10-31-1996
    actor: Reverend John Rutledge "The Guiding Light"; "World's Great
    Novels"
    11-18-1919 - Georgia Carroll - Bloomington Grove, TX
    singer: (Wife of Kay Kyser) "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
    11-18-1926 - Dorothy Collins - Windsor, Ontario, Canada - d. 7-21-1994
    singer: "Your Hit Parade"
    11-18-1928 - Mickey Mouse - Hollywood, CA
    cartoon character: "Mickey Mouse Theatre of the Air"
    11-18-1939 - Brenda Vaccaro - Brooklyn, NY
    actor: "We Hold These Truths"
    11-18-1945 - Glenn Walken - Queens, NY
    actor: (Brother of Christopher) Michael Bauer "The Guiding Light"

    November 18th deaths

    03-13-1913 - Harold J. Stone - NYC - d. 11-18-2005
    actor: Sergeant Waters "21st Precinct"
    03-30-1902 - Ted Heath - Wandsworth, London, England - d. 11-18-1969
    bandleader: "Ted Heath and His Orchestra"
    05-29-1924 - Bob Corley - Macon, GA - d. 11-18-1971
    actor: Beulah "Beulah"
    06-07-1907 - Tom Slater - Parkersburg, WV - d. 11-18-1961
    announcer: "Kitty Keen"; "Jack Berch Program"; "For Men Only"
    06-14-1929 - Cy Coleman - NYC - d. 11-18-2004
    jazz pianist, composer: "Cy Coleman at the Piano"; "Voices of Vista"
    06-18-1893 - Gladys Gooding - Macon, MO - d. 11-18-1963
    organist, singer: organist at Madison Square Garden
    07-06-1910 - Dorothy Kirsten - Montclair, NJ - d. 11-18-1992
    singer: "Keepsakes"; "Kraft Music Hall"; "Light Up Time"
    07-11-1894 - Walter Wanger - San Francisco, CA - d. 11-18-1968
    film producer: "Information, Please"; "Hollywood Fights Back"; "Lux
    Radio Theatre"
    07-14-1880 - Donald Meek - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 11-18-1946
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    09-06-1888 - Joseph P. Kennedy - East Boston, MA - d. 11-18-1969
    ambassador to Great Britain: "Ambassador Joseph Kennedy"
    10-07-1888 - Henry Wallace - Adair County, IA - d. 11-18-1965
    vice president: "Free World Theatre"
    10-15-1900 - Fritz Feld - Berlin, Germany - d. 11-18-1993
    actor: "NBC Uinversity Theatre"; "Nightbeat"; "Advs. of the Saint"
    10-30-1891 - Bill Brandt - d. 11-18-1963
    sports commentator: "Inside of Sports"
    11-29-1894 - H. Leslie Atlass - d. 11-18-1960
    Chicago radio pioneer, CBS executive
    12-12-1909 - Louis G. Cowan - Chicago, IL - d. 11-18-1976
    producer: "The Quiz Kids"; "Murder at Midnight"
    xx-xx-1919 - Walter McGraw - d. 11-18-1978
    director: "Believe It or Not"; "The Chase"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:39:14 -0500
    From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Gildersleeve - Easter

>     While I'm at it, I'd like to ask a question.  When Chuck Schaden ran When
>     Radio Was, he ran an Easter episode of Gildersleeve that he said first ran
>     on April 16, 1957.  It's definitely a Waterman episode.

    The date, April 16, 1957 must be a mistake because Gildy's last episode
    was #551 dated 6/2/54. an Easter episode April 16, 1944

    "ESCORTING TWO WOMEN ON EASTER MORNING".This is a Harold Peary Episode.
     There is another Easter episode with Waterman April 9,1952 "Easter Sunrise
    Service"

    A log for Great Glidersleeve is [removed]

    Frank McGurn

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    Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:39:34 -0500
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cinnamon Bear Quilt Errata
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       Well, I don't know if it matters, but Mrs. Webster has corrected me on
       a couple of minor points regarding her Cinnamon Bear quilt and her
       other quilting achievements:

       The prize she won was called Quilt 2004 at the Festival of Quilts not
       in London but in Birmingham, England (in 2004) - the largest quilt
       show in Europe (Quilt 2004 being the top honor - the equivalent of
       best of show). The printing process uses a reactive dye (whatever that
       is), not ink. She doubts the dye goes all the way through the fabric
       but says, the images are "essentially dyed like most commercial fabric
       and is therefore more colorfast and washable than fabric printed with
       ink."

       She also won first place at the highly regarded America Quilter's
       Society show in Paducah, KY in her category which in the quilting
       world is a pretty big deal. Sorry for any unintentional
       misrepresentation; my bad, not Barbara's.

       BTW, I gather  Cinnamon Bear  authority Dennis Crow's  better half is
       quite an accomplished quilter in her own right.

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    Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:12:52 -0500
    From: "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed];
    To: "[The Old-Time Radio Mailing List]" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Robert Hall" Radio Commercials?

    Does anyone here remember the "Robert Hall" radio commercials?
    If so --

    1. Can anyone provide the complete words? All I happen to remember
       of them is:
                 "Oh the values go up, up, up;
                  And the prices go down, down [removed]"

    2. Even better still -- is there a downloadable MP3 or WAV of it
       available???

    3. More generally, is there any MP3 archive of old radio commercials?
       ("Northwest [removed] Airliiiiines!")

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    Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:13:38 -0500
    From: Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  And Now A Show From Our Sponsor

    Jack French notes,

>     Ah, for the good ol' days when we really
>     knew a cereal chiefly by the kids' program
>     it sponsored. Ralston (Tom Mix), Wheaties (Jack
>     Armstrong), Nabisco Shredded Wheat (Straight
>     Arrow), Kellogg's Pep (Superman),
>     Cheerioats and Kix (The Lone Ranger),
>     Post Toasties (House of Mystery), Hop
>     Harrigan (Grape Nuts Flakes) etc.

    A few additions to that.  One is that during its long run, "Cheerioats"
    name was shortened slightly to "Cheerios."  Naturally, there was a while
    where all the kids I knew, myself included, referred to the product by
    its older name.

    But the very first program I used to identify with a show was sponsored
    by Cream of Wheat -- Let's Pretend.  I don't recall ever eating the
    stuff, but the jingle for it persists, more than 65 years after I first
    heard it.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:14:17 -0500
    From: Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR In The Flicks

    Joe Mackey wrote --

>     But so many of the shows on film simply drop
>     the characters we all know from the shows.

    One of my gripes on some of the shows transformed into movie serials is
    that they alter some characters that they do retain.  In the "Captain
    Midnight" Columbia serial, there was so Secret Squadron, no use of
    Code-O-Graphs or the like, and Captain Midnight became a Secret Identity,
    complete with mask!  Also, Joyce Ryan became an inventor's daughter, and
    Ivan Shark, clearly one of the best villains ever to grace the airways
    with his sinister presence, merely became a Master of Disguise.

    I guess the producers thought they were doing the kiddies a treat by
    presenting anything related to the radio characters.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:54:21 -0500
    From: DanHaefele@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Longest OTR show name
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    Recently I located the  transcription of a musical radio program I'd never
    heard of before.   No joke, the program is Names of Tomorrow Finding Stardom
    Today in  Hollywood.  The host is conductor Henry Russell.  Anybody  able to
    tell
    us about the series?  And, can anyone think of a radio show  with a longer
    names?

         I've made a digital transfer of the  transcription and it is now in the
    SPERDVAC Archives Library.

         Happy Thanksgiving,  everybody.

    Dan Haefele
    SPERDVAC Acquisitions Chair

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