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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 10


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Bela Lugosi on OTR
	 The DeMarco Sisters
	 Wrong copy boy!
	 Why Sam 'n' Henry became Amos 'n' Andy
	 OTR-related PBS programs
	
	 WBAI OTR
	 Remember WENN
	 Re: The Shadow - Terror at Wolf'[removed] date
	 Sam 'n' Henry & Tribune
	 Response to Linwood Bechtel
	 RE: The Shadow
	 Wisconsin OTR outlets
	 Re: Sam 'n' Henry 'n' Tribune

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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:02:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon H Chandler <dchandle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bela Lugosi on OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello, All.

I'm looking for appearances of Bela Lugosi on OTR;  I have the
single appearances on _Suspense_, _Abbott & Costello_, and _Mystery
House_ ("The Thirsty Death", but there are a few others I'm trying to find. 
Can anybody help me locate the ones listed below?  I've got quite a bit to
trade, and my list (at the OTR site) is _nearly_ updated.  The episodes I'm
looking for:

--a speech given to promote _Dracula_ (1931), broadcast 3/27/31 over KFI
in LA.  

--an appearance on _The Ozzie and Harriet Program_, late 1930's, with Boris
Karloff.

--an appearance on _Mail Call_, in 1944, also with Orson Welles, E. E.
Horton, and The Mills Brothers.

--were there other episodes of _Mystery House_ featuring Lugosi, other
than the one in common circulation, "The Thirsty Death"?  (That one also
featured John Carradine, by the way.)

--an appearance on _Candid Microphone_, in 1947.

Were there any other appearances not listed above?  I'd love to hear about
them, whether you have copies of the programs or not.

Thanks in advance,

-dc


PS:  Coming soon . . . my "wanted" list for Boris Karloff . . . 

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"After all, what the hell?"     --Dan Turner        dchandle@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:26:48 -0500 (EST)
From: mschmid@[removed]
To: airwaves <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: The DeMarco Sisters
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

	Midway through tonight's airing of The Fred Allen Show (5/09/48)
w/ Don McNeil I picked up a phone call and was speaking to Ann DeMarco of
The DeMarco Sisters, Allen's vocalists from 1945-49.  Someone told her the
show was on and she called some of her sisters to tell them to listen! 
	When they started out on the show they were aged 10 to 17.  There 
were five sisters.  They no longer perform together but Ann said that she 
and her husband occassionally do.
	Does anyone have questions for her?  It might make for an 
interesting interview or article.  Forward any questions or interest to my
E-mail address. If I get more from her I will post it.
	She seemed especially interested in getting a copy of a show from 
that period with Humphrey Bogart as guest, but I don't think it is avail-
able.  Anyone know for sure?

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:52:38 -0500 (EST)
From: mschmid@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: Andy Blatt <AndyBlatt@[removed]>
Subject: Wrong copy boy!
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 22:43:59 -0800
> From: AndyBlatt@[removed]
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: Hey Copy, Boy!
> Message-ID: <960106224358_21850181@[removed]>
> 
> Was that copy boy Len Berman?  There's a sports anchor in NY on WNBC who has
> been in the market for a while.  Could this be the guy?  Just curious?
> 
> ------------------------------
If that BLACK copy boy grew up to be Len Berman, he's got a great make-up 
man!

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:09:30 -0500 (EST)
From: mschmid@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Why Sam 'n' Henry became Amos 'n' Andy
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Mon, 8 Jan 1996 [removed]@[removed] wrote:

> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 96 20:15:01 -0500
> From: welsa@[removed]
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: Sam 'n' henry
> Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
> 
> Reading the recent thread about Amos 'N' Andy and Sam 'N' Henry reminded me 
> that I have in my library a well-worn paperback book.  On the cover it says:
>     
>     SAM 'N' HENRY   Original Stories of Amos 'N' Andy By Correll and Gosden, 
> Illustrated by Samuel J. Smith
>     
>     The book is copyright 1926 by the Chicago Tribune and in the preface 
> Correll and Gosden give thanks only to "the great papa, The Chicago Tribune."  
> Would it be safe to assume the Trib had something to do with the radio show?  
> Sponsor, perhaps?
	
	To the best of my recollection, and after referring to Dunning 
(not much help), here is my understanding of the name change.
	Sam & Henry originated on Station WGN.  They owned the name.  I 
think they also owned the Chicago Tribune, which carried a comic strip 
version of Sam & Henry.  It was a spin-off of the radio show (or was it 
the other way around)?  The strip and the show were both successful, and 
the owners wouldn't give up the name when Gosden & Correll left WGN for 
WMAQ and the CBS network.
	I may be wrong in some of these details.  Perhaps someone has a 
more definitive account?  This is what I remember reading somewhere.

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:18:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR-related PBS programs
Message-ID: <[removed]@netcom17>

This may well be old news, but the Orange County (California) PBS station,
KOCE Ch. 50, is running a few OTR-related programs, and since I have seen
no mention of them herein I will make one.
	Monday, Jan. 8 at 9 PM they are running a show called 
"Broadcasting's Forgotten Father: The Charles Herrold Story."  This 
subject holds particular interest to me, for I grew up with my father 
telling me "KDKA may have been the first _licensed_ commercial radio 
station, but KQW (San Jose, CA, Herrold's station) was the first 
commercial radio station, period."  This was hard for me to believe, 
since no one ever cites it as such, but as my dad is usually right about 
such things, I always believed him.  
	Not to start a controversy, but the best I have been able to
determine--early radio history is remarkably shrouded in mystery!--is that
Herrold's station, which became licensed as KQW in early 1922, was indeed
the first to broadcast a regularly-scheduled, sponsored program--in 1912. 
	Whatever the truth of the matter is, I'm sure this show will be 
very informative, and should be of interest to all students of radio 
history, of which there are many on this list.
	The second show is called _The Radio Collector_.  I happened to 
catch it late Saturday night.  The episode I saw was evidently the first 
one.  It dealt with the early history of broadcast radio, with an 
emphasis on the equipment used.  While I get the impression the show is 
directed more at the collector/restorer of old radios than the collector 
of programs, still the strong emphasis on radio's historical aspects 
should prove fascinating.  This is clearly a local show, but perhaps the 
network will pick it up.  At the very least, those within KOCE's signal 
range can watch them.

By the way, Herrold's KQW exists today as KCBS 740, San Francisco 
(transmitter in Novato).  I remember my dad used to have a "KQW 
Listener's Club" card from his youth, but sadly he cannot find it now.

Rob Spencer

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 07:33:41 -0600
From: Rich Samuels <richsam@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

 Re: SAM 'N' HENRY   Original Stories of Amos 'N' Andy By Correll and Gosden, 
Illustrated by Samuel J. Smith (copyright 1926) and the dedication

The Tribune reference, I suspect, has to do with the fact that the Chicago
Tribune owned WGN where the 'Sam and Henry' characters made their debut.
Gosden and Correll also appeared on WGN under their own names as a duo
singing patter songs (and recorded for Victor both as Sam and Henry AND
Gosden and Correll---on at least one occasion, beginning a recording as
Gosden and Correll (singing) and then slipping into the Sam and Henry
characters (dialogue) before a vocal finish).
The Tribune, in essence, "sponsored" all WGN broadcasts until the beginning
of 1928 when 'GN accepted outside sponsorships for the first time.
Though the book mentioned in the previous posting has a 1926 copyright, I
believe its actual date of publication was later---surely no earlier than
1928 when Gosden and Correll departed WGN for greener fields at WMAQ (then
owned by the Chicago Daily News). The Tribune/WGN held the rights to the Sam
and Henry characters. Gosden and Correll were thus obliged to come up with
new names.
My best recollection is that, at WMAQ, Gosden and Correll held the rights to
the 'Amos and Andy' names (and also, as part of their deal with WMAQ, had
the right to syndicate their show via transcription---which they did, prior
to NBC picking up the show). If that was the case, then Gosden and Correll
could have cut a side deal with the Tribune, allowing the publication of the
book referring to both 'Sam and Henry' AND 'Amos and Andy'. Gosden and
Correll were smart businessmen. And such a deal allowed the Tribune to
collect a few more bucks, even though their most popular personalities had
flown the coop.

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:51:57 -0500
From: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WBAI OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello,
        Can someone please give me the correct day and time for Max Schmid's
program on WBAI? Thanks.



Tom

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:51:51 -0500
From: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Remember WENN
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello,
        I thought some of you might be interested in this article:


Original AMC Comedy Recreates 1930s Radio

By Walter H. Combs, Tribune Media Services

Radio is a medium that has evolved over 70 years. In the minds of most
people today radio means either talk or various music formats, with little
blending of the two except in the chatter of disc jockeys between tapes or
music on commercials.

People who lived through the Depression and World War II, though, can
remember a time when one radio station offered both talk and music, news and
entertainment, celebrities and regular people, stories and songs and comedy,
all served up through the wooden box on the table or from the stand-up
console in the corner.

Once, back then, radio was like television -- entertainer, informer,
hearth-side family
unifier. Roosevelt offered his calming message over the airwaves, and when
he finished, Benny Goodman might lead the big-band through "Begin the
Beguine," or Toscanini would conduct Beethoven after Jimmy Durante played a
classical-music spoofing piano solo. The audience loved it all.

Behind the microphones were the actors, speakers and technicians that made
it all
possible. Perhaps those who remember sigh when remembering. Perhaps those
who only remember Top 40 hits or Rush Limbaugh wonder what it must have been
like.

No one can expect radio to yield to nostalgia and turn back to variety,
drowning out the rock bands, rappers, country singers and Limbaugh.
Strangely enough, television, the destroyer of radio's golden age, offers a
nostalgic look back at the radio of old on AMC, a channel long-noted for
bringing classic movies to cable television.

"Remember WENN," a fictional recreation of radio's golden age, premiers on
AMC on Saturday, Jan. 13 at 9 [removed] Eastern. And while it doesn't offer a
recreation of old
radio shows, it offers a glimpse at the past through the prism of charcter
and story.
Without laugh-track or modern trappings, the series goes behind the scenes
of old-time radio. An ensemble cast of performers brings to life the staff
of actors and
technicians that brought the programs to the airwaves.

In the first episode of the series a young woman arrives at the Pittsburgh
radio station to claim a contest prize -- a job at the station. Believing
she will be paid, she
pitches in, soon to find that the job is an unpaid internship. After
inadvertently
saving a soap-opera broadcast after the writer passes out drunk, she is
given a paid
position and finds her life intertwined with the performers and workers at the
station.

The series stars several lesser-known but well-credentialed stage
performers. Series
creator Rupert Holmes, perhaps best-known for the late-'70s hit, "The Pina
Colada
Song," writes the scripts for the first two episodes, and is as well-suited to
recreating radio as anyone on contemporary show business.

" I've loved that period called the Golden Age of Radio," Holmes says,
"since I heard my first transcription discs and Armed Forces Radio
rebroadcasts on disc of some of the classic shows from that period."

When asked by the producers if we would consider working on a show
recreating old-time radio, he says, " My first answer was, 'Yes, please,'
which is what Dennis Day always used to say to Jack Benny when given any
assignment." He was convinced that the best way to do a weekly comedy was to
create a group of characters whose lives and work would make up the stories.
"The family of characters for 'Remember WENN' occured to me very easily and
spontaneously. I knew that I had to have someone who had once been a star of
the Broadway stage, and had sort of been demoted one step to being a radio
star. I knew from the outset that I wanted to have one character who would
be the man of the 1000 voices. I was always haunted by the fact that the
hero of the radio show 'Gunsmoke,' which aired mainly in the '50s, was
William Conrad, who on TV was known as both Cannon and the Fat Man in 'Jake
and the Fat Man.' On radio, of course, he had this beautiful voice and he
was Marshall Matt Dillon, a role he could never have played on
TV."

The program is set in Pittsburgh, which is important to Holmes because it
gives the
characters a resonance that they might not have if they were in New York,
since being successful in the largest cities gives performers a celebrity
factor they wouldn't have working in the heartland.

Holmes also states emphatically that he is not simply doing a show that
appeals to
people who remember radio's golden age. "If there's an audience that can
remember radio from the first time around, that's fine. But the people that
have talked to me that are in their 20s for example, who didn't know radio
the first time around, I find are very, very fascinated by what that world
was like. And I think we can always learn from thepast and we can learn from
restaing the past in a contemporary context. The idea that people could play
five characters in one performance is very
intrigiung."

Copyright 1996 Tribune Media Services   * * *   End Of Article   * * 

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 96 06:21:39 PST
From: robertm@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: The Shadow - Terror at Wolf'[removed] date
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell) wrote:
>>I've got a Shadow program titled The Terror at Wolfshead Knoll but don't
>>have a date for it. I checked the log on Mr. Genco's Website and that title
>>is not even listed. Could I have the wrong title? Any idea when it might
>>be?

The Terror at Wolf's Head Knoll originally aired 2/15/48 (you have the right
title!)

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:08:32 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Sam 'n' Henry & Tribune
Message-ID: <960108100831_35162894@[removed]>

There were a couple of questions from welsa@[removed] concerning a 1926 book
by Charles Correll and Freeman Gosden concerning their Sam 'n' Henry
characters.  They gave credit to the Chicago Tribune and he wanted to know
what the Trib had to do with the show and whether they might have been a
sponsor.  The characters began on WGN in 1926 after the station wanted them
to do a series about "The Gumps," a comics page series that ran in the
Tribune.  Correll and Gosden countered with their thought of doing their
blackface show.  The connection, of course, was that the Tribune company
owned WGN, and still does.  WGN call letters are said to stand for World's
Greatest Newspaper (Colonel Robert McCormick often had delusions of
grandeur.)  It was WGN that wouldn't allow the pair to retain the names Sam
'n' Henry when they moved on, saying the names were station property. 

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:38:34 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Response to Linwood Bechtel
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Linwood Bechtel asked in issue 418 (This snow storm is allowing me time to
catch up on some reading) if he is the only one out there who lived through
the golden age of radio.

Well, Linwood (or is it Jerry), you can count me in.

I'm 56 years old and can remember back when I was about 3 or 4 years old,
listening to the Adventures of Superman.

There is a program I have been trying to track down for years. Greg McDonald
did a childrens shows. Darn, I've just gotten a mental block and can't
remember the name of the show. Maybe I'll think of it before I reach the end
of this note.

Anyway, I was so hocked on radio as a kid, that once when our family went
for a drive to visit freind of my parents, I wouldn't go into the house. I
stayed in the car so I could listen to Nick Carter and the Shadow.

I found out later that the person they were visiting was Bob Crawford, who
wrote the Army/Aircore song. "Up we go, into the wild blue [removed]"


When I was 13, my parents bought me a tape recorder for my birthday. Using
all of the money from my weekly allowance, I bought reel to reel tape and
recorded my favorite shows.

This is how my collection started.

Still trying to think of the Graig McDonald show. Something about story teller.

I know it will come to me sometime tonight. Well, let me get back to reading
all my back issues. Maybe by tomorrow I'll get caught up.

                        Fred

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 10:58:11 -0600
From: lgenco@[removed] (Louis Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: The Shadow
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

In V96, #9, Alan Bell asked:

>I've got a Shadow program titled The Terror at Wolfshead Knoll but don't
>have a date for it. I checked the log on Mr. Genco's Website and that title
>is not even listed. Could I have the wrong title? Any idea when it might
>be?

The program is indeed "Terror at Wolfshead Knoll", and was broadcast on
2/15/48.  (It was listed in my on-line "Humongous OTR Database").

Apparently Dale Beers (who keeps The Shadow Log at his site) missed a few
episodes.  Anybody want to compile another log and help fill in the gaps?

Meanwhile, The "Essential OTR Program List" (as suggested by Alan) is still
collecting votes.  If y'all have WWW access, you can vote on (or nominate
new) programs that -you- think best represent the genre.  The polling place
is (where else?) at my website.  I won't publish the tally for a while yet,
but y'all can see what programs were nominated by other folks, and see if
your collection includes some of them.


Lou
------------------------------------------------------------------------
WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:16:06 -0800
From: MikeTimble@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wisconsin OTR outlets
Message-ID: <960108101554_21940951@[removed]>

Wisconsin Public Radio does broadcast an OTR show every sunday. Actually,
Wisconsin has excellent public radio. They have a sort of network for news,
programs and weather that links many stations all over the state. The only
problem with the OTR show is that some outlets carry the show and some do
not. Others (I think) tape and replay at other times. However, this show can
be heard on most stations Sunday night. And what's cool is that pretty much
wherever you are in the state, you can pick up one of these public stations. 

In fact, once in a while, on Sunday nights, I have picked up this program
when I was in Illinois and  near the Wisconsin border. It's a good program.

Mike Timble
Chicago

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:15:06 -0500
From: JShnay@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Sam 'n' Henry 'n' Tribune
Message-ID: <960108141505_35368925@[removed]>

Sam 'n' henry was first broadcast over Chicago radio station WGN. Owned by
The Chicago Tribune, which modestly billed itself as the World's Greatest
[removed]
jshnay@[removed]

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