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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 01 : Issue 104
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Regarding April 1 [removed] [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
boche radio [MkGuarino@[removed] ]
Re: The WLS Success Story [Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed]]
Re: New RCA CD CR-RW MP3 Player is F [[removed]@[removed] ]
Marx Bros tours - correction, softly [John Henley <jhenley@[removed]]
Oddball plot concept ["Jim Lewis" <jimlew2@[removed];]
April fools edition ["Jim Lewis" <jimlew2@[removed];]
Best Buy ["Welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
have a laugh on me ["Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
Re: Problem and Solution (April fool [Bill Harris <billhar@[removed]; ]
Lassie, Norman Corwin and my uncle ["Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed]]
Buck & Flash Question v [removed] [wolowicz@[removed] ]
April Fool's Joke ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
another April Fool ["Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed]]
Re:De-Coding the Digest [TedOTR@[removed] ]
greetings and the Green Hornet ["Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb.]
Escape broadcast ["Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb.]
Lights Out Episode ["Vince Long" <vlongbsh@[removed]; ]
D. Bain & Suspense? [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
Deciphering Messages In 1945 Code-O- ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
Secret Squadron Signal Sessions ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
Re: The Disappearing Claghorn [Terry Wallace <tdwalla@[removed]; ]
Re:OTR at Sam's Club [Arthur Smith <agsmith_stl@[removed]]
Floor Model Radios [William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];]
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:24:07 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Regarding April 1 [removed]
To the Webmaster:
1 45 62 3 78 15 29 4 57 27 48 4 53 77 67 31 70 5 72
Translation for those without the decoder:
You obviously have nothing better to do with your time. Both you and your
accomplice Stephan A. Kallis Jr. should be dragged out, blindfolded, placed
up against a wall, and then bombarded with SPAM pellets until you beg for
mercy.
Seriously though. Very funny "in" bit. I always knew you had a weird streak.
However, I hope the "Katester" has a preponderance of her Mothers genes.
4 72 15 95 69 & 23 skiddoo.
Hal(Harlan)Stone
"Jughead"
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:39:28 -0400
From: MkGuarino@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: boche radio
Hello:
I was hoping someone could help me with obtaining info on the Boche Radio
company. I found a very primitive console radio with the Boche name. It was
on four legs, with a cabinet that opened up. The speaker is underneath and is
rounded. The dials are very primitive and it "turns" on with a simple switch.
I've tried finding info on this company to research how old this radio is and
have found nothing. Would anyone have any info on this? Does this brand name
ring any bells??
Thanks,
Mark in Chicago
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:39:25 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: The WLS Success Story
Bill Knowlton wonders,
Elizabeth or someone else, let us know how the exhaustive the WLS expenses
were and how the heck they made a profit with the huge overhead!
I don't have any specific information on salaries at WLS, but I *can*
tell you that their advertising rates were quite high -- as of 1940, they
charged a base rate $750 an hour for evening time, and $450 an hour for
daytime shows. Of the other 50 kw Chicago stations of the day, WGN and
WBBM charged the same rates as WLS, with NBC's stations WMAQ and WENR
charging slightly less. What's rather remarkable about this is that WLS
was able to charge top dollar even though it wasn't a full-time station:
as noted, it was sharing time on 870 kc with WENR.
What made WLS profitable was that it very deliberately targeted itself to
the huge Midwestern farm population, more than any other station of the
era. During the 1930s and 1940s, the station was owned by the
Agricultural Broadcasting Corporation -- the broadcasting arm of the
Prairie Farmer Publishing Company -- and the "agricultural" in the name
was not just for show. The station programmed its entire schedule -- or
at least the part of that schedule where it wasn't obligated to carry NBC
Blue programming as part of the time-share arrangement with WENR -- to
reflect the tastes and the interests of farm families. As a result, and
thanks to its powerful signal WLS was, year after year, the most popular
station in the US among rural listeners. (WLW was its only real rival.)
Rurally-oriented advertisers flocked to take advantage of this market,
and in trade magazines the station proudly trumpeted its
unimaginative-but-accurate slogan "WLS Gets Results!"
This loyal rural audience was the secret of the station's success -- not
just in its appeal to advertisers, but as a direct source of revenue for
the station. The station operated a "WLS Artists Bureau," and regularly
promoted personal appearances by its staff of artists all over the
Midwest. Between 1932 and 1939, over ten million people paid admission to
attend more than 4700 such performances. During 1938 alone, total
attendance for WLS personal appearances came to 1,229,025 people --
meaning they outdrew both of Chicago's major league baseball teams during
that year! The station also charged admission to the regular Saturday
night performances of the National Barn Dance, and between 1932 and 1939,
over 777,000 people paid 75 cents a head to see these shows.
There were still other sources of revenue for the station: all of its
staff performers were under contract to the WLS Artists Bureau, so the
station received a percentage of their recording proceeds and profits
from licensed merchandise. Any collector of 78rpm records knows how
common records by Lulu Belle and Scotty or the Hoosier Hot Shots are even
today -- so it's pretty obvious these were selling quite well. Plus there
were various novelty products marketed over the years around the Barn
Dance performers, things like guitars, clothing items, and other sorts of
doodads. All this meant more money for the station.
And, finally, the station operated a "WLS Home Talent Show" department,
which was an enterprise along the lines of the old Joe Bren Producing
Company -- an organization that sent professional talent coaches to work
with local lodges and civic clubs in putting on hometown minstrel shows
or barn-dance revues: receiving fifty per cent of the gate as their fee.
The WLS Home Talent department put on nearly five hundred of these shows
during 1938, bringing in still more money.
Even without detailed profit-and-loss sheets, then, it's very obvious
that WLS had no need to fear the wolf at the door. It was, without
question, one of the most extraordinary success stories of 1930s
broadcasting.
Elizabeth
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:31:22 -0400
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: New RCA CD CR-RW MP3 Player is Finally
Available!
Has anyone purchased this model yet for OTR playback?
Fred Berney, you are usually the first on the block to get one.
Any reviews on the Rio Volt? The MP3 [removed] site is
giving both so-so reviews--but for music, that is.
It's too bad that the Kerbango radio was cancelled; I looked forward to
getting that one.
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:51:28 -0400
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Marx Bros tours - correction, softly
A. Joseph Ross said of the brothers Marx:
After Thalberg died, the studio wasn't interested in doing road tours and
didn't do one for their next film.
To be clear - the next film after Opera was of course
A Day at the Races and Thalberg was alive for much of
the preproduction work. According to Joe Adamson, the
Marxes did a tour for Races and the "Operating Room"
scene was worked over heavily. In fact there is at least
one still photo extant from a stage presentation of the
OR scene.
Thalberg died about a week-and-a-half into shooting, and
by most accounts the finished film - which took several
more months of rewriting and shooting - didn't much resemble
the script they were shooting under Thalberg.
After that, naturally, they were at Mayer's mercy.
A bit OT so that's all.
John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:28:03 -0400
From: "Jim Lewis" <jimlew2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Oddball plot concept
I was listening to an episode of Rocky Jordan(4-24-1949, Consignment for
Naples).Rocky is similar to the Bogart character in Casablanca and even has
his own cafe in Cairo called the [removed], the plot concept of this
particular episode is that somebody is smuggling some "dehydrated food"
(powdered eggs anyone??) on this plane that is bound for Naples, [removed]
plane crashes and never gets to Italy and there is this effort to track down
the [removed] question is were things that bad in Italy in 1949 that somebody
would choose dehydrated food to smuggle as opposed to gold,diamonds,or the
usual [removed] fact that it was dehydrated food seemed incidental,it
could have been most anything,so that makes me think that people of that
time period would find this a normal thing to [removed] know that the Berlin
airlift was around this time period but there was no Soviet influence in
[removed] on now ,smuggling dehydrated food into Naples?I was also curious
about the Lone [removed] he did his laundry did he have a spare mask that
he wore,or did he take a chance and remain unmasked while his mask was being
[removed] really am serious about the Rocky Jordan part and the food
smuggling.
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:24:08 -0400
From: "Jim Lewis" <jimlew2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: April fools edition
I also sent Charlie an e-mail with my initial opinion of the new encoding
[removed] suggestion is that Charlie make up a special digest forwarding
some of the most amusing emails he received and send it out as a special
[removed] else agree
[ADMINISTRIVIA: He, he, I have to tell you my mail for the last two days has
been absolutely priceless; but I'm not certain it would be a good idea to
publish the letters, at least not un-edited. What I may consider doing is
posting a web page with a copy of the issue, and non-identifying excerpts
from some of the letters. I honestly don't want to embarass anyone, but I
have to admit that some of the mail is pretty hysterical and kept me
chuckling for most of the [removed] me privately at charlie@[removed] if
you think that would be somethnig you'd like to see.
And before I forget, I want to thank EVERYONE here for being such good
sports. It seemed that those who fell for it the hardest were also those who
laughed about it the [removed] that's the most gratifying of all. Some of
you even sent me comments ciphered with the Code-O-Graph, and since I never
wrote a decrypt program, I had to decrypt the comments MANUALLY before I
could answer! But I kinda figured I deserved [removed]
I want to especially thank Stephen A Kallis, Jr. - when I got the
hair-brained idea and took it to Steve the beginning of last month, instead
of telling me I had lost my mind (which he may have thought) he sent scans of
the various Code-O-Graphs, worked to make sure the computer program was
outputting _legitimate_ ciphers (some of you actually decrypted the issue, as
I expected, so I knew I couldn't cheat on the encryption!), and even
corrected the language of the "cover" letter to keep it authentic. He
deserves a whole bunch of credit for the prank's [removed] maybe that
should be "[removed]" --cfs3]
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:36:10 -0400
From: "Welsa" <welsa@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Best Buy
Someone was asking if Sam's Club still had the Radio Spirits OTR sets. I
don't know about that. But I was in the local Best Buy today and they had
several of them mixed in with their boxed CD sets.
Ted
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:37:19 -0400
From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: have a laugh on me
hi everyone
sunday when i received my copy of oldradio digest i became so
[removed] off i wrote charlie that i thought it was the most stupid idea i have
ever heard of, of course he had to remind me what day it was and you know,
after i found out i laughed so hard tears came to my eyes, very good charlie
very good, :))))))))) i am still laughing
ed
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:22:00 -0400
From: Bill Harris <billhar@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Problem and Solution (April fools joke)
OK folks, no more emails, I did get the joke (as should have been indicated by the
last sentence of my posting below) and am certainly not mad at good ole Charlie. I
admit, I was taken aback at first, I even had my wife read it and her comment was
"he's nuts", I then reminded her what day it [removed] one Charles. We'll deal
with that Kallis feller later.
Bill Harris
After all, this is April One in the year two thousand and one and there [removed]
[removed] [removed] One? AW RATS!!!
23-20-24-24 18-25-19-19-11
[ADMINISTRIVIA: Look at it this way, [removed] played an inadvertant
prank yourself. And tell your wife that mine agrees completely. --cfs3]
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:21:12 -0400
From: "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Lassie, Norman Corwin and my uncle
Hi Gang,
The mentions of Lassie bring to mind something I've not thought about for
many, many years. I had a very charismatic uncle: right out of a Damon
Runyon story. His real name was Max but everyone called him "Junky or
"Uncle Junky" until illegal drugs tarnished the other context of the term:
he'd been a junk dealer. He had amazing contacts: Judges, hotel owners,
race horse owners, whatever. My family was staying at a Summer resort (I
guess circa 1956) in upper New York State and getting the royal treatment
because either he was friends with the owner, or the owner owed him
something. Well, I suppose that it was one of the Weatherwaxes who was
staying there at the time, because we got to meet and pet Lassie and (what
was the name and breed of Jeff's chubby friend's dog?) _____ . I think
that we have color slides that my dad shot that evening.
Jump cut to a conversation between Norman Corwin and me pershaps 30 years
later. I mentioned (and this is still the case) that because I'm a dog
lover, that "Odyssey Of Runyon Jones" is my favorite Corwin radio
production. He told me that he successfully sued CBS and or Weatherwax
because they'd done an episode in which the boy (Lassie or Tim I don't
recall the details) dreamt a sequence that constituted plagirism of the
Corwin work.
Woof Woof!
Shiffy
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:21:10 -0400
From: wolowicz@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Buck & Flash Question v [removed]
First of all, thanks to EVERYONE who responded with info on the series(s).
Y'all are great.
Now the question. Does anyone know if either of these series still exist?
Help is appreciated. Have a great day!
Shawn
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:12:50 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: April Fool's Joke
That was pretty damn funny.
I loved it!!!
Martin
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:47:32 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: another April Fool
I bought the whole thing like it was on sale. Carried on for about twenty
minutes until it occurred to me that it might be a joke. I did, however,
like the reproduction of the manual.
This seems to have been a pretty fruitful April 1: Natalie got shnockered by
a news release she saw about how someone was going to project advertising on
the moon with a laser. It took longer than I thought it would to convince
her that it was a joke.
I wonder if we're all getting a bit too serious.
Mark Kinsler
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:47:42 -0400
From: TedOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:De-Coding the Digest
Charlie,
Well, you took me hook, line and sinker as well. I got the de-coder and
looked at all those numbers and didn't even try. I was going to send in an
UNSUBSCRIBE message, but didn't get around to it that day. I had completely
forgotten about April 1st. When I saw today's Digest, I really felt stupid.
My compliments Charlie.
Ted Davenport
Radio Memories
<A HREF="[removed]">
[removed]</A>
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:36:55 -0400
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: greetings and the Green Hornet
Hello all,
It has been quite a while since I have been a part of the diegest, but it is
good to be back. It is also good to see what a sense of humor our
administrator has.
I was noticing while reading through the latest Radio spirits catalog, that
more and more episodes of the Green Hornet seem to be resurfacing. There
seem to be quite a few from late 1946 that are popping up. Does anyone know
if more of the series is being made available, including the Jack McCarthy
years from 1947 to 1952?
RyanO
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:36:53 -0400
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Escape broadcast
Hello all,
This discussion of east and west coast broadcasts sparked a question in my
mind. I own a very interesting of Escape called, "Papa Benjamin." This
episode stars Frank Lovejoy as a band leader who ticks off the wrong voodoo
man. The story is interesting enough, but what really makes this show is
the music. Unfortunately, the version I own features an organ with a couple
of horns thrown in. I know there is another version available with a full
orchestra, because I heard it once on line. Does anyone happen to own the
orchestra version? Also, I am looking for the original broadcast of, "A
Shipment of Mute Fate," with Jack Webb. The version I own has about five
minutes missing from the middle. Does anyone own the complete broadcast?
Thanks in advance?
RyanO
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:06:57 -0400
From: "Vince Long" <vlongbsh@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Lights Out Episode
Which episode of "Light Out" had the story about the mad scientist who could
turn people inside out?
Vince
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:03:16 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: D. Bain & Suspense?
Dave Phaneuf asked meŠŠ
Do you know if it was Donald Bain who did the Suspense show "Two Birds with >
One Stone"
5/17/45?
Dave, this "Stone" doesn't know the answer about that "Stone" show.
Since I don't remember what "coast" Suspense originated from, if it wasn't
out of New York, it wasn't Bain. I hate to admit it, but I don't have any of
the reference books that you guys use, so I'd only be guessing. When I post
something, I can only speak from personal experiences, (and what you OTR
fan's tell me). :)
I recall there may have been one or two other animal impersonators in the
business in NY, but Bain was the acknowledged master. I remember a female
named Biner or Miner, (or something like that) pops into my head. No,
definitely not Jan Miner. (Boy, did I have a teenage crush on her!)
We recently learned about who the "master" animal voice was in [removed], but I
would imagine Chicago and Detroit, being fairly busy with program
origination's, also needed similarly talented individuals.
Hal(Harlan)Stone
"Jughead"
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:35:47 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Deciphering Messages In 1945 Code-O-Graph Style
Dennis Crow notes, anent Digest #102,
. I went so far as to even print the code-o-graph. Then I knew, with
all those numbers, it would be an impossible task to decipher the
messages let alone even think about [removed];<
Actually, if you _want_ to, it's fairly easy, if you have on your
computer any word-processing software with the proper functions. I use
Corel WordPerfect. Here's all you have to do:
1) Copy the message and paste it into a document.
2) Set the Code-O-Graph's rotor to the Master Code ([removed], #102's X-1)
3) Go to the top of the document. Go to the first two-digit number.
Find out its letter equivalent.
4) Using your word-processing edit function, do a "search and replace."
replacing the number with the letter.
5) Go to the top of the document again. Find next two-digit number, and
repeat the process. Keep doing this until you've run out of two-digit
numbers.
6) Then, and only then, do the same with single-digit numbers.
7) When you run completely out of digits, you've deciphered the message.
Now this is only practical (if kludgy) if your software's
search-and-replace software has a "replace all" function. The maximum
number of passes needed for a complete decipherment is 26; usually, fewer
are necessary. The software mightn't be able to handle the hyphens, but
the result will still be readable.
So, if you _must_ , the job shouldn't be too onerous.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:35:48 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Secret Squadron Signal Sessions
Kenneth Flowers, speaking of the cut-out Code-O-Graph and the "secure"
Digest #102, notes,
The decoder is great and works very well. It all brings back fond
memories of my youth in the forties and the fun of decoding the Captain
Midnight messages every day at the end of the
[removed];<
Ahh ... all our memories embellish the good stuff. I wish it had been
every day. It was usually once or twice a week, but those were special.
I've mentioned this before, but it's been long enough ago that not every
subscriber knows the story, and insignificant enough so that those who've
been exposed to it before might have had it slip their minds. Some 20
years ago, I received recordings of some of the few Ovaltine-sponsored
Captain Midnight programs. I was playing one of the World War II
episodes when the announcer said, at the close of the show, "Get pencil
and paper handy to take down tonight's Secret Squadron Signal Session."
I leaped out of my chair, ran to where I got a pad and ballpoint pen, and
got back just in time to jot down the message. It didn't occur to me
that since the show was a recording, I could have merely stopped the tape
while hunting up writing materials. It was as close as you can get to a
conditioned reflex. (Since I had at least one copy of every Code-O-Graph
in my collection by that time, decrypting the message was only a matter
of determining which year's model it was.)
Actually, Ovaltine has to be commended for the regular broadcasts of
secret messages, because each one ate into commercial time. Admittedly,
Ovaltine's commercials were among the industry's longest, particularly
for 15-minute shows.
This is one of the things that distinguishes Code-O-Graphs (Secret
Squadron _equipment_) from ordinary radio premiums. Ordinary premiums
had a life span starting with either a tease (if the item was to become a
plot element) or the announcement of its availability, and in either
case, ending when the offer was over. Code-O-Graphs were used throughout
the program, from the introduction of the model until it was replaced in
the next season (the only exception being 1943-1944 seasons, when
materials shortages during the war precluded manufacture of metallic
Code-O-Graphs).
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:35:50 -0400
From: Terry Wallace <tdwalla@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: The Disappearing Claghorn
Might the de-emphasis of the character been in
response to the rise of Strom Thurmond and the
Dixiecrats? It was a campaign year in which the
Democrats were being split regionally, and radio was
very touchy on politically sensitive matters back
then.
This is a theory only.
Cheers,
Terry
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:35:52 -0400
From: Arthur Smith <agsmith_stl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:OTR at Sam's Club
Hello,
The SAM's Club in St. Louis carries them again after a
short absence, possibly post-holiday. The $[removed] sets
are, I believe, $27 something.
Art
Does anyone know if Sam's Club is still carrying
old-time radio collections from Radio Spirits?
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:18:59 -0400
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Floor Model Radios
The year was 1930 when my mother purchased our first floor model radio.
It was a Crosley, with an electro-dynamic speaker. That meant that the
magnetic field in the loudspeaker was supplied by a coil which also acted
as a choke coil in the AC power supply circuit. The speaker had to always
be plugged into the chassis in order for the set to work. By that time
most new home radios were consoles. Who could resist the announcer
belting out in dulcid tones, "MAJESTIC, MIGHTY MONARCH OF THE AIR" over a
large studio orchestra playing "Pomp and Circunstance". I do not recall
whether Atwater Kent ever went to a console. Their first was a
"breadboard" with each of the components (variable condenser, variometer,
and the tubes being mounted on what looked like a small cookie tin. The
board was varnished and was about eight inches wide by about 24 inches
long. The lodspeaker was a curved horn. One of our "well-to-do" (do to
the fact that they didn't have kids) neighbors had one. Later models were
in a metal box.
Also I noticed mention of Verne Smith. I first knew him when he was a
staff radio announcer at CBS in New York. He had a passion for operating
elevators so one would frequently find him operating the elevator at 485
Madison. A nice guy!
Bill Murtough
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