Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #346
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 10/29/2001 8:50 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2001 : Issue 346
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Green Hornet Bares All                [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Personal Comments on Education & OTR  [ "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl ]
      Credits                               [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
      RED'S PLEDGE                          [ "David Phaneuf" <otr_fan@[removed]; ]
      SKIP WAVES BROADCASTS                 [ "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
      Jack Armstrong on the Silver Screen   [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Re: Terry & the Pirates               [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
      Lucile Fletcher                       [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
      FOTR Convention                       [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      request for an address                [ "Peter Appleyard" <pappleyard80@hot ]
      L-A-V-A                               [ Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu ]
      "Family Theater" information          [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
      WOTW                                  [ Greg Addington <gregadd@[removed]; ]
      Philco Pushbuttons                    [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Re: Family Theater Request            [ Roger Lorette <webmaster@cyber49er. ]
      Radio Spirits catalog                 [ bkeller@[removed] (Bob Keller) ]
      Re: Seeking Philco radio pushbuttons  [ passage@[removed] ]
      NBCSO Rehearsal Recordings            [ Robert Fells <rfells@[removed]; ]
      CD-Rs Again                           [ Robert Fells <rfells@[removed]; ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey5@[removed]; ]
      Ed Gardner & Shirley Booth            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]

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    Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 22:27:52 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Green Hornet Bares All

    Mike Kuypers, speculating on which episode Britt Reid revealed his Green
    Hornet identity to Miss Case, notes,

>     My guess is there was no specific episode in which he told her or she
>     found out. There was an "understanding" between them.

    As I recall, "Casey," who was a pretty smart young lady, was able to put
    two and two together and became increasingly certain that Britt was the
    daring and resourceful masked rider in the Black Beauty.  She used to
    drop helpful hints in conversations with Britt, such as, "Well, if I were
    the Green Hornet, I'd ..." and then provide some information she'd picked
    up on her own.  Finally, by the time he took her into his confidence, it
    was something of an anticlimax.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:03:02 -0500
    From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Personal Comments on Education & OTR

    I've been away from my computer for
    sometime, but after getting as far as
    #318, I have to comment on a recent
    topic, reading and writing skills.

    My father was born in 1891 and only
    had an 8th grade education.  But he
    could read and write as well as many
    of my college students.  His letters to me
    were neatly written and his grammar
    was always correct.

    My mother ([removed]) graduated from the
    12th grade and then taught school.  I have
    several of her grade school readers (first
    three years).  I was just looking through
    her third grade McGuffys Eclectic Reader
    and the level of the readings would equal
    much of today's high school materials.

    After my Korean War stint (navy), I spent
    9 years in college/university and began, in
    1964, teaching philosophy and logic courses
    to college Freshmen and Sophmores.  I saw
    the steady degeneration of language skills
    from 1964 to my retirement in 1999.

    Here is an interesting point about the "TV
    Generation."  I learned, the hard way, that
    most of my students could not learn by
    being shown "instructive television."  Audio
    instruction was generally successful.  But
    television was only entertainment for them,
    and so most could not learn by substituting
    TV for certain readings.  They did not have
    the skill to listen/watch and still take notes
    and learn.

    My own two sons were raised listening
    to OTR and music, both pop & serious.
    Reading was always emphasized by my
    wife and me.  My older son credits his
    success as a ad agency copywriter to
    growing up listening to the OTR I had
    provided.  (Writing radio commercials is
    a favorite task for him.) My younger son,
    after college and two years as a radio
    broadcaster, returned to graduate school
    and is now finishing up his PhD in
    Contemporary European History.  Both
    sons were especially fond of ILAM and
    Adventures By Morse.  They would write
    their own scripts and act them out with
    friends.  The impact of OTR rescued them
    from the slavish dependence on TV that is
    so prevalent today.  When we have an
    occasion to make long auto trips with our
    sons, we all (my wife included) enjoy
    listening to OTR together.

    Harry Machin, Jr.
    Professor Emeritus of Philosophy
    St. Louis

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:04:20 -0500
    From: otrbuff@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Credits

    Mike Giorgio inquires why some actors, especially those in recurring
    roles, were credited on the air for their work while others were not.
    I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than I am will address this.

    For what it's worth, however, one explanation may have been the
    personalities involved in decision-making.  For instance, I read a few
    days ago that one of the directors of Suspense (and I don't want to limit
    that to a single individual by name for it may have been widely
    practiced) was vowed and determined that the lesser names wouldn't be
    read aloud on that show.  If I recall correctly, not until late in the
    run were the subordinate actors names' run.  Someone can correct me (and
    certainly will) if I've got the wrong show.  Thus, you likely had figures
    in the industry like anywhere else, I suppose, who were willing to
    receive public acclaim in their own names but for whatever the reason
    prevented others (at least some others) from sharing in the limelight.

    This same thing was certainly true of many soap operas, particularly
    those of the Hummert machine, until late in the runs when the producers
    relented and at least allowed hero and heroines' names and occasionally
    writers' monikers to be aired.  I have often wondered if this was perhaps
    in lieu of salary increases or to keep an actor pacified if he threatened
    to move from a successful role to something more accommodating.  Why
    suddenly have a change of heart and give some of them credit for what
    they had been doing for decades?  I don't have an answer for that but
    maybe someone will.

    Giorgio asked specifically about credits on Casey, Crime Photographer.
    Here is cast information I have gathered on the series that I hope will
    be helpful:

    Producers:R. L. Landy, A. Renier.  Directors:John Dietz, Albert Ward.
    Writer:Alonzo Dean Cole, Gail and Harry Ingram, Milton J. Kramer.
    Music:Archie Bleyer (orchestra), Lew White (organ).  Sound:Jerry
    McCarthy, James Rogan, Art Strand.  Announcers:Bill Cullen, Bob Hite,
    Tony Marvin, Ken Roberts.  Leads:Title role played by Matt Crowley and
    Jim Backus in its first few months on the air, and from late 1943 until
    the end of the run by Staats Cotsworth; Annie Williams, played by Jone
    Allison, Alice Reinheart, Lesley Woods, Betty Furness, Jan Miner.
    Support Roles:Jackson Beck, Bernard Lenrow (police captain Bill Logan);
    John Gibson (Ethelbert); Herman Chittison, Juan Hernandez and Teddy
    Wilson (the pianist); also in the cast:  Bill Adams, Ed Begley, Ralph
    Bell, Peter Capell, Art Carney, Ted de Corsia, Roger De Koven, Joe Di
    Santis, Robert Dryden, Hope Emerson, John Griggs, Jack Hartley, Raymond
    Edward Johnson, Joseph Julian, Mandel Kramer, James Kreiger, Abby Lewis,
    Arnold Moss, Santos Ortega, Bryna Raeburn, Karl Swenson, Miriam Wolfe.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:04:47 -0500
    From: "David Phaneuf" <otr_fan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RED'S PLEDGE

    i evidently missed the original post on this, but if you are referring to Red
    Skelton's presentation on the Pledge of [removed] it is one of the most
    moving presentations I have heard.  It was just re-enacted for us at our
    Grand Lodge meetings this past weekend.  And as it has been years since I
    have heard it (or rather read it) it was very inspiring, especially in the
    aftermath of September 11.

    I too would like to hear Red's original performance of it.

    Dave Phaneuf

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:07:41 -0500
    From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  SKIP WAVES BROADCASTS

    Back in the early 70's, when I was hosting an OTR show  called "Sounds Like
    Yesterday," on WBJC-FM in Baltimore, MD, I received a letter addressed to me
    at the station, telling me that my program waa picked up on this certain
    individuals radio in - are you ready for this - Cleveland, Ohio!  I could
    not belive this unti I called him at the number he wrote in his letter.  He
    said he was scanning the dial and all at once heard Amos & Andy coming
    through very clear on his radio. He waited until the end of the program to
    see if their was any address given for the station. I did ask anyone to
    write me and did give an address.  He was so intrested in the program, as
    nothing like that was being aired in his vicinity at that time. I plugged
    our OTR Club at the end of the broadcast, and he told me he sent for an
    application and joined. (He is still a member, BTW).
    When I showed the letter to the station engineer, he said it was a "skip
    wave<" which is a not too unusual occurance in broadcasting if the weather
    is sbsolutly clear, and no interference, a signal will get through to a
    distant station without a short-wave band.  I wonder if anyone on the thread
    has had a similar experience of receiving broadcasts outside of your
    listening area?

    Owerns

    <br><br><br>"Old-Time Radio is like vintage wine. . . it grows better with
    age!"
    "nostalgia is like a grammar lesson:. . . you find the PRESENT TENSE. . .
    but the PAST PERFECT!"

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:08:37 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Armstrong on the Silver Screen

    I finally got to see a copy of the Jack Armstrong movie serial.  It was
    released in 1947, with John Hart playing the _oldest_ "boy" in films.
    There is a reasonably strong relationship to the OTR show, but the
    storyline is thinner and the action is sillier.

    The serial was produced by Columbia (which also produced the
    even-further-from-the-original Captain Midnight serial), though the
    principals of Jack, Uncle Jim, Billy, and Betty were present.  As was Vic
    Hardy.   At this approximate time in the OTR show, the Vic Hardy
    character was being written into the stories (which eventually developed
    into the half-hour Armstrong of the FBI program).

    The basic plot is that Jack, Uncle Jim, and the others, follow a shipment
    of scientific equipment (by triangulation) to a tropical island after Vic
    Hardy has been kidnapped.  Although they don't know it when they arrive,
    secreted in the island is a laboratory run by a scientific genius, Jason
    Grood who has developed, we find out as the serial progresses, _two_
    death rays and a spacecraft in an attempt to rule the Earth (he says
    "universe" at one point, but considering that Grood was played by Charles
    Middleton, who was Ming the Merciless in the three Flash Gordon
    adventures, the lapse is understandable).  There are natives on the
    island, who, conveniently speak moderate English, and whose ruler is
    Alura, a princess.  A native working for Grood's gang, and a priestess of
    the native's god, Xalta (pronounced "ex-all-ta"), are controlled by
    Grood, who, using hidden speakers to cause the natives to believe they
    are hearing the Voice of Xalta (who unaccountably speaks in English;
    there is some sort of native language).

    As with many Columbia serials, there is a lot of action, mostly fist
    fights, and a few shootings and explosions, plus one airplane
    crash-landing.  Vic Hardy, who seems to be cooperating with Grood,
    reveals at the close of the serial that he is a member of a worldwide
    organization dedicated to fighting people like Grood.  (Can you say SBI?)

    Anyone being introduced to Jack Armstrong via the serial will find a bit
    of familiarity when listening to the shows, but will probably be
    surprised how much more intelligent the radio version of Jack would turn
    out to be.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:08:57 -0500
    From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Terry & the Pirates

       In #343, John Southard asked who the main cast members were in the
    1941-42 version of Terry and the Pirates (WGN/Midwest, Libby's juices).
    I can name three cast members:  John Gibson (as Connie), Emily Vass (as
    April Kane), and Bob Griffin (as Dude Hennick).  (My info source: Libby's
    newsletters to salespersons, dated [removed] 1941.)
       It'd be nice to know who played Terry, Pat Ryan, the Dragon Lady, etc.,
    in this interesting '41-42 version.
       --Phil Chavin

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:09:05 -0500
    From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
    To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lucile Fletcher

    Hi all:
    I have heard a couple of scripts on Suspense, written by Lucile Fletcher.
    I've heard, "The Hitch-hiker," and "Sorry, Wrong Number."  I am impressed
    with her style and ability as a writer.  Can someone give me a list of other
    things she has written?
    Thanks in advance.
    RyanO

    "Experience is the greatest teacher.  Unfortunately, I am it's poorest
    student."
    Elliott Lange

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:09:49 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FOTR Convention

    On a personal note:

    Jay Hickerson and his staff should be publicly acknowledged for putting on a
    grand convention this past weekend.  A tip o' the hat to them.
    It was so great to meet up with all my friends with whom I chat via e-mail
    every week, but meet face to face once or twice a year.  I attend almost a
    dozen conventions every year, more than half of them are film/movie
    conventions and the crowds at those are less than polite, sometimes rude,
    and often pushy.  The attendees at FOTR (and Bob Burchett's Cincy con) are
    the most pleasant to mingle with and socialize.  I really wish all the
    conventions I attend had the same friendly crowd.

    As usual, I was able to pick up a few goodies (a CD offering an hour's of
    Christmas music from 1920s Victor 78s is my highlight), chat with friends (I
    learned of a valuable research source on the web I never heard of) and
    bought a couple books that came recommended.  Even purchased a few Dr. Who
    audio adventures for my little sister, who has gotten into the Dr. Who
    craze.  Bob Burchett kicked my ass at the pool table (four games in a row,
    I'm sad to say) and updated my Quiet Please collection by purchasing better
    sound quality masters than the old cassettes I've had for the past few
    years.  I joined membership to an OTR club I recently heard about, and
    brought home a few magazines (and I'm not referring to those free OTR
    magazines that were on the flier table all weekend).  My father attended for
    the first time and he enjoyed the trip.  All in all, it was a grand time and
    I'll be attending next year.

    If you were not able to attend this year, be sure to stop by and visit next
    year.  What a blast!
    Martin Grams, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:10:08 -0500
    From: "Peter Appleyard" <pappleyard80@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  request for an address

    Would someone have an address for Art Pierce that they might send me so I
    can write him a letter. Thanks in [removed]
    pappleyard80@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:10:28 -0500
    From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  L-A-V-A

      Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but Lava Soap, proud
    sponsors of "The FBI in Peace and War," is alive and well. In fact, I just
    bought a bar. It is now made in Canada for the WD-40 company in San Diego.
    Just one thing: Instead of being dull gray, it is now a pleasant shade of
    green. But it still works well, as my no-longer-ink-stained fingers can
    attest.

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:10:51 -0500
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Family Theater" information

    Henry Brugsch asked;

>     I'd like to know where I could find a complete archive of the series,
>     assuming it exists. ("Family Theater")

    	Yes, we have a complete log of that excellent series.  We also have
    all 517
    episodes and they are available for purchase on CD and cassette.  They are
    in excellent sound quality.

    	If you wish to find out more information on the series, you may go to
    my
    Website, The Vintage Radio Place at <[removed]>.  Go down to the "Main
    Table of Contents" and click on "Vintage Radio Logs."  Then just click on
    "Family Theater," or any of the other over 500 logs listed there to view,
    download or print out the log(s).  All programs with catalog or location
    numbers are available for purchase there also on CD, Cassette and other
    formats.

    	You may also find this series listed in my on-line CD / cassette
    catalog
    which is located at <[removed]> OTRSite On-Line Catalog.  To
    use this catalog, your browser must be Frames compliant and you should be
    running at a resolution setting of 800x600 or higher for best viewing
    (although lower resolution settings may be used).

        I hope this helps.  If you have any other questions, please feel free to
    contact me.

                Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:11:16 -0500
    From: Greg Addington <gregadd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WOTW

    Hi everyone,

    I've been keeping up with the posts since subscribing late last year and
    truly appreciate all of the knowledge and talent encompassed within the
    posts I have read in the last ten months or so that I have been a
    subscriber.  I have particularly enjoyed the posts from Elizabeth
    McLeod, Stephen Kallis, Michael Biel and others.   I have also enjoyed
    reading the posts from Hal Stone (Hal, although I have yet to listen to
    an episode of Archie Andrews, it is quite high on my "to do" list),
    Conrad Binyon, Lois Culver and others that are regular contributors.
    Your contributions to radio's golden age are appreciated.

    Ever since I was a kid in elementary school (I am 31 now), I have always
    had a fascination with The War of the Worlds.   I listened to the
    broadcast on vinyl one day in the 5th grade and was hooked ever since.
    I have listened to a few episodes of The Shadow, and an episode or two
    of the Inner Sanctum, but Orson "...dressing up in a sheet and jumping
    out of a bush and saying boo" always seem to catch my awe.  I have spent
    some spare time doing a little bit of research on WOTW, and believe that
    this email subscription has been invaluable in filling in a few of the
    missing pieces in my mind about the broadcast.   Jeff Miller's History
    of American Broadcasting site has been a great resource as well
    ([removed]).  Jeff has a couple of posts
    from Mike Ogden with a few potential cast lists and the roles that were
    played 63 years ago, Tuesday night.

>     >From Howard Koch's book, "The Panic Broadcast", it is clear that both

    John Houseman (Producer) and Davidson Taylor (CBS Executive-in-charge of
    the broadcast) were both in the control room.  Owens Pomeroy's post on
    Ladies in Broadcasting a few weeks back mentioned Ora Nichols and her
    work on sound effects that night (thanks Owens!), and Bernard Herrman
    conducted an 18 piece section of the CBS Symphony during the broadcast.
    Does Elizabeth (or anyone else for that matter) knows if anyone else sat
    in the control room or contributed to the broadcast outside of the cast
    and crew mentioned above?  I am particularly interested in who was the
    engineer for the broadcast, but any additional information that can be
    gleaned would be appreciated.

    Greg Addington
    Oak Ridge, Tennessee

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:11:35 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Philco Pushbuttons

    Mark Lambert asked about a source for  pushbuttons  for a Philco radio.
    You might try Larry Bordonaro at Old Time Replications. His email
    address is oldtimerep@[removed]. He made pushbuttons for my 1940 Philco
    that were exact replicas of the originals.
    You might also have your friend double check that model number, as 1938
    Philco's would have a 38 as the first two numbers in the model number.
    For example a 1938 Philco console with pushbuttons model number was
    38-31XF and a 1938 table model with pushbuttons was 38-7C, although
    there were other numbers as well. It's important to have the correct
    number when ordering replacement parts.

    George Aust

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:12:04 -0500
    From: Roger Lorette <webmaster@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Family Theater Request

> >     Henry Brugsch Wrote:
> >     I have just finally got caught up on my digest
> >     reading for the most part, and lately, I have been
> >     thinking about the trends of media presentation, and
> >     Family Theater in particular.  I'd like to know
> >     where I could find a complete archive of the series,
> >     assuming it exists.

    As I understand it there are over 500 Family Theater shows in circulation.  I
    have about 35 of them.  If you set up a free account at [removed]
    and email me your username I will be able to "streambeam" the shows to you
    (anyone else is also welcome to take advantage of the same offer).  I have no
    affiliation with Streamload.  It's a great way to easily send multiple files
    to several people with a single upload.  I have no affiliation with them but
    have found the service useful and it has become my prefered method of sending
    files over the net.  The only "catch" is that the reciever of the files has
    to have an [removed] it's free so it doesn't matter.

    Roger Lorette
    webmaster@[removed]
    [removed] The Old Time Radio Archive.

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:01:18 -0500
    From: bkeller@[removed] (Bob Keller)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Spirits catalog

    Re: Stephen Kallis om 27 Oct 2001

    I, too was surprised, but since I has received the Winter 2001-2002 catalog
    a few weeks ago (that did have all the usual "stuff," I suspected this
    might be a version targeted at a wider audience, and not wanting to
    complicate things with clubs, sales, or surplus When Radio Was cassettes.

    Let's hope that this is the case, and not an end to the "goodies."

    Bob Keller

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:25:33 -0500
    From: passage@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Seeking Philco radio pushbuttons

    Mark wrote:

>     I remarked about my OTR hobby to a co-worker and he asked if I
>     might know of a source for purchasing pushbuttons for a Philco 39-36
>     (circa 1938) radio.

    Try Antique Electronic Supply, [removed].
    Another web site that might have some info is
       [removed]

    Frank

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:45:48 -0500
    From: Robert Fells <rfells@[removed];
    To: old time radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  NBCSO Rehearsal Recordings

    I've been away for a week and just catching up on the recent OTR
    Digests.  Mike Biel is correct that on many occasions following a
    broadcast performance, Arturo Toscanini and the NBC Symphony Orchestra
    would make a commercial recording for RCA of the same work.  Comparisons
    can be subtle but important.  For example, comparing the May 6, 1940
    broadcast of Brahms Symphony No. 1 with the commercial recording made on
    May 9th reveals a number of differences, the broadcast version being
    considered the superior of the two.

    However, the point I was making last week was that RCA - with
    Toscanini's approval - did on occasion lift passages from a rehearsal to
    replace part of the performance that did not go well.  The 1951 Verdi
    Requiem is a case in point.  The fact that Toscanini hummed aloud and
    even shouted during the rehearsals did not prevent these recordings from
    being used. In fact, a lot of Toscanini can be heard on the Verdi
    Reqiem.  A more notorious case is the 1946 La Boheme, where even in the
    broadcast, the Maestro's vocalizing "turned solos into duets, and duets
    into trios," to quote Jan Peerce.  The engineers must have been
    challenged to position the microphones to pick up the orchestra and not
    the Maestro.

    Bob Fells

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:56:08 -0500
    From: Robert Fells <rfells@[removed];
    To: old time radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  CD-Rs Again

    Still playing catch-up, I was surprised by a couple comments regarding
    the alleged life span of CDs and CD-Rs re "nobody really knows how long
    they'll last."  To me, that's all the more reason to respect the low
    ball estimates, hope they're wrong, but plan as if they're correct.  A
    good tape on reel or cassette may indeed outlast the so-called 10-15
    year lifespan of CD-Rs (and nobody hopes that these estimates are wrong
    more than I do) but a big problem with tape is print-through and that
    has soured me on tape for long-term archival use.  Many of the Radio
    Spirits programs are riddled with print-through, even on the CD
    versions, suggesting that whatever source material being used is the
    culprit.  The value of CDs, aside from no tape hiss, is that if you can
    get a clean copy, it will stay that way.

    I guess I'm thinking in terms of "Desert Isle" broadcasts here.  If you
    could only perserve a limited number of shows, either by tape or CD,
    which ones would they be?

    Bob Fells

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:56:30 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey5@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From Today's History and Birthday's --

      For 10/27

    In 1947, the show "This is Nora Drake" premiered on NBC radio; Nora
    solved domestic, social and child-raising problems on the airwaves until
    January 2, 1959.

    In 1948, Groucho Marx was heard as quizmaster on "You Bet Your Life" for
    the first time, on ABC radio.  George Fenneman, Groucho's straight man,
    stayed with Marx during the program's run on radio (1948 - 1959) and
    then TV (1950 - 1961).

      and on 10/28

    In 1946, "Sky King" was heard on ABC radio for the first time, starring
    Jack Lester, then Earl Nightingale, and finally, Roy Engel, as Sky.
    Beryl Vaughn played Sky's niece Penny; Jack Bivens was Chipper, and
    Cliff Soubier was the ranch foreman; the show was sponsored by Mars
    candy.

      I do have a question though.  Is the Earl Nightingale above the same
    one who had a series of radio commentaries in the 1970's?
      Joe

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    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:30:25 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ed Gardner & Shirley Booth

    Question:

    Does anyone know the exact date (month and year would be okay) of when
    Shirley Booth and Ed gardner divorced?  My records indicate sometime during
    the summer of 1942, a year before she left Duffy's Tavern.
    Perhaps it's in a reference book I have yet to find???
    Martin Grams, Jr.

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