Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #21
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Date: 1/20/2005 1:03 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 21
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      WLS "Standby"                         [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
      1-20 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      The Golden Age that almost never was  [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
      Re: Jeopardy                          [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
      Elliott Lewis                         [ Gayland Darnell <hankie01@[removed] ]
      "The Thing"                           [ Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; ]
      Atom Man [removed]                       [ Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon. ]
      HELP                                  [ "janice vegas" <amandakayla@[removed] ]
      Bing Crosby 1942                      [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]
      1935 Lone Ranger serial on eBay       [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
      Jungle Jim                            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      The end of August Heat                [ Lilah60@[removed] ]
      Unheard Characters                    [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Bullard wife                          [ "William Schell" <bschell@[removed] ]
      re: When I listen to OTR              [ "John, Ann and/or Kate" <jakdresden ]
      Fr. Peyton and Family Theater         [ Mkerezman@[removed] ]
      Recommendations on MP3 download site  [ Rich Zahradnik <rich@doverinternet. ]

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:04:21 -0500
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WLS "Standby"

    I am looking for CERTAIN issues of the WLS weekly "Standby" magazine
    published in the mid 1930s.

    Please contact me offlist. Thanks!!

    BILL KNOWLTON: "Bluegrass Ramble," WCNY-FM ([removed]) Syracuse, WUNY ([removed])
    Utica; WJNY ([removed]) Watertown NY. On the web: [removed]. Sundays: 9 pm to
    midnight EST (since 1973)

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:04:28 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-20 births/deaths

    January 20th births

    01-20-1878 - Finlay Currie - Edinburgh, Scotland - d. 5-9-1968
    actor: John H. Watson "BBC Home Theatre"
    01-20-1894 - Harold Gray - Kankakee, IL - d. 5-9-1968
    cartoonist: Creater of "Little Orphan Annie"
    01-20-1896 - George Burns - NYC - d. 3-9-1996
    comedian: "Burns and Allen"
    01-20-1896 - Rolfe Sedan - NYC - d. 9-15-1982
    actor: "Escape"; "Suspense"; "Mystery in the Air"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-20-1898 - Tudor Owen - Wales, UK - d. 3-13-1979
    actor: Jocko Madigan "Pat Novak for Hire"; Editor "Alias Jane Doe"
    01-20-1899 - Joseph Buloff - Vilnius, Lithuania - d. 2-27-1985
    actor: Barney Glass "House of Glass"
    01-20-1900 - Colin Clive - [removed], France - d. 6-26-1937
    actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
    01-20-1903 - Leon Ames - Portland, IN - d. 10-10-1993
    actor: "Earplay"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    01-20-1907 - L. A. "Speed" Riggs - Silverdale, NC - d. 2-1-1987
    tobacco auctioneer: "Jack Benny Show"; "Kay Kyser Show"
    01-20-1914 - Roy Plomley - Kingston-upon-Thames, England - d. 5-28-1985
    announcer: Desert Island Discs"; "We Beg to Differ"; "One Minute Please"
    01-20-1920 - DeForest Kelley - Atlanta, GA - d. 6-11-1999
    actor: "Suspense"
    01-20-1922 - Connie Haines - Savannah, GA
    singer: "Abbott and Costello Show"; "Rhapsody in Rhythm"
    01-20-1926 - Patricia Neal - Packard, KY
    actress: "Hollywood Star Preview"

    January 20th deaths

    02-18-1903 - Jacques Fray - Paris, France - d. 1-20-1963
    pianist, disc jockey: "Fray and Braggiotti"
    04-06-1927 - Gerry Mulligan - NYC - d. 1-20-1996
    jazz saxophonist: "Sound of Jazz"; "White House Jazz Festival"; "Voice of
    Vista"
    05-03-1880 - Horace Murphy - Finley, TN - d. 1-20-1975
    actor: Buckskin Blodgett "Red Ryder"
    05-04-1929 - Audrey Hepburn - Brussels, Belguim - d. 1-20-1993
    actress: "[removed] Story"; "Stagestruck"
    05-29-1894 - Beatrice Lillie - Toronto, Canada - d. 1-20-1989
    commedienne: "Beatrice Lillie Show"
    07-11-1922 - Bernard Punsly - NYC - d. 1-20-2004
    actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"
    07-16-1907 - Barbara Stanwyck - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-20-1990
    actress: "Prudential Family Hour of Stars"; "This Is My Story"
    11-14-1906 - Mercer McCloud - d. 1-20-1993
    actor: Fran Cummings "Second Husband"
    12-05-1922 - Alan Freed - Johnstown, PA - d. 1-20-1965
    disc jockey: "Moondog Show"; "Alan Freed Show"; "Camel Rock and Roll Party"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:04:46 -0500
    From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Golden Age that almost never was

      This paragraph from "Fred Allen: His Life and Wit"
    by Robert Taylor offers something to ponder:
        "... Video seemed imminet in 1932; CBS had a
    regular program schedule for an estimated nine
    thousand television receivers in metropolitan New
    York, while NBC had established a station atop the
    Empire State Building. 'The most prevalent explanation
    for delaying television was engineering difficulties,'
    states William Hawes, a scholar of primitive video,
    but the Depression was the true overriding factor. 'If
    it had not been for the nation's financial crisis, the
    public might have had television by 1933, and radio
    might not have become as prominent as it did.'"

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:05:05 -0500
    From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Jeopardy

    The other day on Jeopardy, one of the subjects was OTR and nobody got any
    of the answers correct. In fact they left the last question in the list. I
    would have liked to have heard what it was.

    Fred

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:05:27 -0500
    From: Gayland Darnell <hankie01@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Elliott Lewis
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    Hello again [removed]

    I wanted to write and thank Michael Guccione for providing the internet
    address to find a picture of Elliott Lewis.  Does he look like I thought he
    would?    No, not really.  About the only people I have found that look like
    they sound are Jack Benny, George Burns, and Gracie Allen.  But, I know that
    is because I was born in 1951, and saw them on television, so I saw them
    before I heard their otr programs.

    The first time I saw pictures of Fibber McGee and Molly, I thought, "Man, I
    would have NEVER thought they looked like that!"  They didn't look [removed]
    they certainly did not fit the "picture" I had of them in my head.

    Also, I wanted to thank Dan Hughes for asking his question regarding Franky
    Remley and Elliott Lewis.  Now I'm REALLY [removed]  were Franky Remley and
    Elliott Lewis 2 separate people originally?  I know that on the Harris-Faye
    show Elliott Lewis played the part of Franky Remley, but was there a REAL
    Franky Remley on the Jack Benny show?  If so, does anyone have a picture of
    him?  I have to admit that Elliott Lewis is my favorite character on any of
    the shows.   I wish I were cool enough to have his perspective on life.  One
    of the funniest shows I ever heard is when Phil Harris answers the door at
    his home and Franky is all excited He tells Phil Harris he has found the
    perfect cure for a hangover.  He explained that "...you just take a bottle of
    bourbon and add 2 aspirins."  You have to admit old Franky had his priorities
    in the right place.  If you ever needed anything, he always "knew a guy."

    I guess I was just born 20 years too late.  I would have loved to have heard
    these programs broadcast originally.  But, then I wouldn't have had the
    advantages of MP3, etc.  I guess the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
    But, I do wish Mr. Elliott was still around so I could send him a letter,
    letting him know how much pleasure he still brings to listeners.

    Happy listening!

    Gayland Darnell

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:05:59 -0500
    From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "The Thing"
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    Jello Again!  I read an article that said they thought that Phil Harris
    record ,"The Thing" was a take off on the Sc-Fi movie that came out right
    about that time, called "The Thing" ( From Another World) starring Kenneth
    Tobey, James Arness (The Thing), and a very young George Fenneman, the
    announcer on  the radio & TV Dragnet, and the radio versions of You Bet Your
    Life and [removed] don't know for sure or not , not having that article with
    me at the moment. But it sounds plausible to [removed] don't remember if the
    movie, " The Thing" came out before the song or not.  Bob Slate

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:06:51 -0500
    From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
    To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Atom Man [removed]

     > I listen to tapes on a walkman. Currently Atom Man vs. Superman and
     > Frank [removed]

    Wow, Superman and Frank Sinatra teaming up.  I missed that series.
    Darn!! <g>

    -- Alan

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:18:44 -0500
    From: "janice vegas" <amandakayla@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  HELP

    I have a few old time radio tapes(Jack Benny, Amos and Andy, Burns and Allen)
    that I taped from the radio many years ago. I listen to them at night to sleep
    by. I need to get more tapes as these are wearing out.  Stores don't have them
    on cassettes anymore and I don't know what radio station to listen to them on.
    I sure could use help in finding the radio station in my area (Placerville,
    CA) or if someone could tell me where I may purchase  CD's (I could play them
    on the computer) or cassettes.  Thank you for any help you can give.  Or is
    this a thing of the past like the manual typewriter (not possible to obtain).

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Suggest you contact this poster directly with your
    suggestions and corrections.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:18:57 -0500
    From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bing Crosby 1942

    A Vermont friend of mine collects "Everything Crosby" and he's looking for a
    copy of a 1942 broadcast of the Kraft Music Hall, on December 25th with Bing
    Crosby.  Bing introduced and sang a new song for the first time on that
    program called "White Christmas."  This was five months before his first
    Decca recording of the classic and months before he started filming "Holiday
    Inn."  Is that Kraft Music Hall show available in anyone's collection to
    share?  Replies offline appreciated.

    Many thanks. =Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:24:11 -0500
    From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  1935 Lone Ranger serial on eBay

    I don't know whether it's legitimate, but the seller
    misspelled Earle Graser's name, and the photos
    proporting to be of Graser and James Jewell don't look
    like either man.

    But then, the seller has a phone number superimposed
    over the pictures, so it's hard to tell with 100
    percent certainty.

    The guy with the piglet _could_ be Brace Beemer,
    however. It does look a lot like him.

    Also, the bookstore mentioned in the ad, O'Gara and
    Wilson, Ltd., is an actual Chicago-based,
    long-established bookstore, according to my
    researches. So, that helps add credibility.

    One picture from that set, of The Lone Ranger with
    Silver, particularly caught my attention. The Ranger
    is wearing white pants and shirt, a black (or dark
    brown) vest and twin guns worn low on his hips. One of
    the Radio Spirits 60 episode "Lone Ranger" collections
    has a color photo of the Ranger in that same outfit on
    the front. Now whether that photo was from the same
    shoot, or that was the standard outfit for Lone Ranger
    appearances (allowing for a possible later date for
    the Radio Spirits photo) I don't know.

    Bottom line: The item could be the real McCoy, but if
    you were thinking of bidding, I'd do a _lot_ of
    research first, just to be safe. Especially at _that_
    price.

    Rick

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:26:19 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jungle Jim

    TC commented about the JUNGLE JIM episodes listed on Goldin's:
    Per some of the wartime ones, (1942-3), there's some episodes listed on
    Goldin's page that I haven't been able to find anywhere.  Are some of the
    ones like the one where they're trapped in the bowling alley by Nazis
    available?  And how did the Jungle Jims get so misdated in the first place-
    according to Goldin the ones listed as 1947 are really 1944?  Are his
    renumberings correct?  Any info would be greatly apreciated.

    First off, Goldin listed only the information that could be acquired from
    the discs and from the recordings themselves.  Many of the shows he offered
    over the years came from transcription discs and were available for a custom
    recording fee of $[removed] pre hour (plus postage).  Usually a 2 month wait but
    considering he had recordings of shows like COLUMBIA WORKSHOP and ELLERY
    QUEEN that were not known to exist, they were worth the penny.  Other shows
    like the 80+ QUIET PLEASE episodes originated from discs he acquired and
    were hot items when they became available.

    As for the JUNGLE JIM series, the majority of the episodes do exist in
    recorded form.  The program was syndicated via transcription discs with one
    episode per side of the disc (so there are barely any partial episodes
    floating about).  A total of 980 episodes were recorded and broadcast and
    Goldin's archives only lists about 530.  There are many episodes NOT listed
    on Goldin's page that are floating about in circulation, so if you search
    hard enough from one OTR dealer to another, you'll easily find almost every
    episode available except for the final two seasons.  The program went off
    the air in August of 1954 and most of the episodes from April of 1952 to
    August of 1954 are not easily available - the toughest to find in the
    series.

    it should also be noted, as nice as Goldin's site is, that it should be
    considered with a grain of salt.  Goldin has admitted there are errors but
    one honorable thing he is and has been doing is updating the site every few
    months with corrections to the listings.  I know a man who used that site as
    a reference source for a book he was writing, and was later shocked after
    his book came out about a particular Hollywood actor that there was errors
    and many entries lacking.  Goldin's site is nice to browse, but be aware
    that what's listed isn't always 100% accurate.

    Martin Grams, Jr.

    [removed]  if you're looking for dealers who have JUNGLE JIM episodes, contact me
    and I'll give you some phone numbers of dealers who have nice size
    collections.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:24:50 -0500
    From: Lilah60@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The end of  August Heat

    >From Craig Melville: I'm not sure if it is just my copy or the original
    recording is incomplete but I'm missing the last 4 or so minutes.

    I'm not sure the finely crafted, finely acted Suspense story "August Heat"
    ends at all.
    It just stops, leaving the reader to fill in the ending. During the last few
    seconds
    of my audio, a church bell is tolling toward midnight accompanied by heavy
    human grunts and menacing footsteps, all growing louder to abrupt silence.
    Then
    the familiar closing.

    I thought it clever leaving the listener to fill in the ending!  When I
    listened again, I noted
    the letter's clues to the solution that I was incapable of imagining.

    Quite a piece of work that story; it's my favorite of all Colman's
    appearances on
    Suspense. If I'm missing four minutes, don't tell me about it!

    Claire
    Below the Beltway

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:10:59 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Unheard Characters

    I was listening to a Burns and Allen show from 11-17-42 yesterday and it
    was all about Ida Cantor and I thought ahha ( I do think "ahha" every
    once in a while) Ida's going to be on the show and so there goes the
    premise that she was talked about but never appeared on radio. But alas
    she was never heard on this show either. However Eddies daughter Janet
    was on the show, or at least someone playing her. Since she only had one
    line( Daddy do you know where my welding outfit is?) I doubt that it was
    her. It seems to me that if she came to the studio to do a show that
    they'd give her more than one line. Anyway I think that it qualifies, as
    one of Eddies daughters did appear on radio.(can you appear on an audio
    only medium?).
    Did anybody follow that?

    George Aust

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:31:49 -0500
    From: "William Schell" <bschell@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bullard wife

    I was listening to The Great Gildersleeve, The Opera Sponsor show from
    12-2-45 and Mrs. Bullard, from across the street has quite a long part as
    one of the planners for the opera.  She and another lady meet Gildy in his
    living room. So, Mr. Bullard had a wife at one time.
    Bill

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:32:02 -0500
    From: "John, Ann and/or Kate" <jakdresden@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re:  When I listen to OTR

    I've been teaching high school German for the last 20 years.  There are
    evenings when I'm either grading tests or trying to come up with
    creative lesson plans that I put on a cassette or two and listen to a
    show while I'm completing my paperwork.  Comedies work best while
    grading since I don't have to listen to every single word.  If I listen
    to a Suspense or Escape show, I need to concentrate more on the show.
    Those are great for doing lesson plans.  As other digest readers have
    already said, it's a nice break from listening to the same music all the
    time or even the same depressing news.  As an added bonus, my daughter
    has grown up sitting in my study next to me listening to otr while I
    graded papers and she did her homework.  She was always willing to
    listen to whatever I put on.  Now that she's in college, I really miss
    that.  Are there other readers who have passed this hobby on to their
    children?

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:33:54 -0500
    From: Mkerezman@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fr. Peyton and Family Theater
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    There is a short article in the Boston globe on the cause for Fr. Patrick
    Peyton's canonization that makes mention of his radio work with Family Theater.

    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:41:25 -0500
    From: Rich Zahradnik <rich@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Recommendations on MP3 download sites

    I have been online since about 1986. I have enjoyed OTR since, as a comic
    book fan, I stumbled on another sort of superhero, The Shadow. That led to
    the discovery of the wide array of programming produced during radio's
    Golden Age. My two interests ran in parallel until I subscribed to this
    list. I have always bought shows as tapes and CDs. Reading here, the penny
    only dropped recently that I could download shows as MP3's, then play them
    off my iBook or iPod. I feel kinda stupid about this given how long I've
    been online, that I've got three laptops on a WiFi network, an iPod, and
    I've downloaded just about everything else, including music. Habit is habit,
    I guess.

    So, I Googled the download sites and there are a bunch, some charging by
    volume (ie - gigs of data), some by the month. I'm looking for
    recommendations as to the best ones in terms of service, breadth of
    collection, price, recording quality and general respectability.

    Let me know, on or off list. [removed]

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: With the wealth of publically-accessable and free downloads
    available on USENET and various websites, there's no reason to advertise any
    of the for-pay systems on the Digest. Please feel free to contact the poster
    directly if you must suggest one of the "leetcher" sites.  --cfs3]

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