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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2009 : Issue 123
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Logo Molded in Transcription Dis  [ <georgewagner@[removed]; ]
  re: Cool Logo Molded In Transcriptio  [ rand@[removed] ]
  Re: Cool Logo Molded In Transcriptio  [ LBiel <[removed]@[removed]; ]
  RIP Gale Storm                        [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  Bridge music mystery                  [ Tim Germain <tim_germain@[removed] ]
  6-29 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Gale Storm, RIP                       [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  Cool Logo Molded In Transcription Di  [ James H Arva <wilditralian@[removed] ]
  Gale Storm, RIP                       [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Ken Roberts                           [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:03:38 -0400
From: <georgewagner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Logo Molded in Transcription Disc

     Stephen, while I have never personally seen this design molded into a
BROADCAST transcription disc, a very similar design (minus the RCA) was QUITE
common on older one-sided 12-inch Victor Red Seal classical recordings. By
which I mean the commercial 78-rpm records sold for home use.

     Sincerely,

     George Wagner
     georgewagner@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:04:26 -0400
From: rand@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Cool Logo Molded In Transcription Disc

Stephen in the digest posted a link to an AFRS disc he has with an RCA
logo molded on the back.  He wondered if others exist.

Indeed, they do.  I think RCA may have used a couple of different designs.
 I've seen them on one-sided transcriptions pressed by RCA, particularly
from the 30s through the early 40s, and on "blank" sides in classical
music sets put out by the label.  I've also got a couple of Columbia
transcriptions with their own "notes" design on the back that are molded
like this.

The Columbia design, as well as one of the RCAs, was formatted in such a
way that it could be used on either 16" or 12" discs.  And, yes, it's
quite beautiful as a piece of industrial art.

You see different things turn up on these discs.  Some Allied Record
transcriptions have a widely spaced empty groove that runs the whole side
of the disc; others from the label have some kind of test tones on the
empty side.  Most one-side transcriptions just have a blank side that I've
seen.

What's really fun is checking out the other side of one-sided lacquers.
I've got some from a local station that include interviews they
pre-recorded for a show, announcer auditions, sound effects or music
bridges used on shows and other fun stuff.

Randy

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:05:40 -0400
From: LBiel <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Cool Logo Molded In Transcription Disc

Stephen Jansen asked whether the pattern moulded into the blank side of a RCA
Victor pressed AFRS disc was common. [removed]
 Yes it is.  The material flows in the press better if there is not a
completely blank side, so most RCA Victor single sided records of all sizes
after the mid-1920s had some design.  This is called the Web pattern by
collectors and is seen in smaller versions on 10 and 12-inch discs, but this
16-inch size is certainly impressive!  I have several discs of a milky-white
translucent  material with this design which are even more impressive.  Some
shellac records have simpler versions that only have the words VICTOR or RCA
VICTOR on plain backgrounds.  Occasionally when it is the blank side at the
end of a classical set there is a deep groove that will allow an automatic
changer to trip and stop without damage in case the record is accidentally
put on the changer.

Columbia also used a pattern on some of their pressings that had a large pair
of 16th notes that was their "Note the Notes" trademark.  Most other
companies used some sort of grooving or a machined pattern on a blank metal
plate.  World discs often are found with a raised grooving made from a blank
grooved master that is pressed from a metal positive rather than a metal
negative.

My daughter Leah just issued a DVD of her documentary on record collectors
(including Terry Solomonson) which shows noted dealer Kurt Nauck with a
16-inch blue Columbia transcription which has the Columbia name and
trademarks in gold visible under the clear grooved layer.  It literally took
my breath away (you can hear me gasp on the soundtrack) and nobody Kurt has
shown the disc or Leah and I have shown the program to has ever seen another
like it.  (We'll try to provide Stephen with photos.)

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]   [removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:09:03 -0400
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RIP Gale Storm

Sad news to report once again - Gale Storm of My Little Margie has died at 
87.  She was a fun guest at Friends of Old Time Radio on several occassions 
and was as delightful in person as she was on stage.

RIP, obituary from The Washington Post follows.

[removed]

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:10:38 -0400
From: Tim Germain <tim_germain@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bridge music mystery

A friend of mine sent me this email. Can anyone give me some information that
I can pass on to my friend?

"I have an old time radio mystery that I'm trying to solve and perhaps you
can help me. I was listening to some of those Barry Craig detective shows and
the bridge music was the same as those I've heard many a time on The Shadow
programs, the latter ones with Bret Morrison. I'd sure like to have all that
incidental music on a disc. I'm just wondering if you might help me in
finding out the composer. I suspect it's library filed like the music they
used on early televisions Superman."

Thanks in advance,

Tim

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:10:48 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  6-29 births/deaths

June 29th births

06-29-1893 - Alma Kitchell - Superior, WI - d. 11-13-1996
singer, commentator: "Melody Hour"; "Brief Case/Streamline Journal"
06-29-1895 - Paul V. Galvin - Harvard, IL - d. 11-5-1959
co-founder of Galvin Manufacturing, merged with Motorola
06-29-1899 - Lester Vail - Denver, CO - d. 11-28-1959
director: "Aldrich Family"; "March of Time"; "World's Most Honored
Flights"
06-29-1901 - Ed Gardner - Astoria, NY - d. 8-17-1963
comedian: Archie "Duffy's Tavern"
06-29-1901 - Nelson Eddy - Providence, RI - d. 3-6-1967
singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Vicks Open House"; "Chase & Sanborn Hour"
06-29-1903 - Ellen Pollock - Heidelberg, Germany - d. 3-29-1997
actor: "The Lady of Lyons"
06-29-1903 - John Stanley - London, England - d. 12-2-1982
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes" Jeff Brady "Romance
of Helen Trent"
06-29-1905 - John Gibson - Oakland, CA - d. 9-xx-1971
actor: Red Pennington "Don Winslow of the Navy"
06-29-1907 - Joan Davis - St. Paul, MN - d. 5-22-1961
comedienne: "Sealtest Village Store"; "Joan Davis Show"
06-29-1908 - John Hench - Cedar Rapids, IA - d. 2-5-2004
actor: Stanley Gilman "Those Happy Gilmans"
06-29-1908 - Leroy Anderson - Cambridge, MA - d. 5-18-1975
composer, arranger: " Contemporary Composers Concerts"; "Must for
America"
06-29-1909 - Oscar Argumedo - d. 8-16-1986
disk jockey: KCOR San Antonio, Texas
06-29-1911 - Bernard Herrmann - NYC - d. 12-24-1975
conductor, composer: "Columbia Workshop"; "Mercury Theatre on the Air/
Campbell Playhouse"
06-29-1911 - Milt Josefsberg - NYC - d. 12-14-1987
writer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Bob Hope Show"
06-29-1913 - Charles Gussman - Kansas City, MO - d. 10-18-2000
writer: "Road to Life"; "Right to Happiness", Young Doctor Malone"
06-29-1913 - Hilliard Marks - d. 8-19-1982
producer: (Brother of Mary Livingston) "The Jack Benny Show"
06-29-1914 - Rafael Kubelik - Bychory, Czech Republic - d. 8-11-1996
conductor: "Musicians Off Stage"
06-29-1915 - Leo Diamond - NYC - d. 9-15-1966
harmonica player: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy"
06-29-1915 - Ruth Warrick - St. Joseph, MO - d. 1-15-2005
actor: "Joyce Jordan, [removed]"; "Myrt and Marge"
06-29-1920 - Bonnie Dunn - NYC
singer: "This Is Fort Dix"
06-29-1922 - Ralph Burns - Newton, MA - d. 11-21-2001
pianist, arranger: "Esquire Jazz Concert"; "Saturday Night Swing
Session"
06-29-1922 - Tony Osborne - Cambridge, England - d. 3-1-2009
arranger: "The Goon Show"; "Take It From Here"
06-29-1924 - T. Tommy Cutrer - Tangipahoa Parish, LA - d. 10-11-1998
announcer: "Grand Ole Opry"
06-29-1925 - Cara Williams - Brooklyn, NY
actor: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"
06-29-1934 - Chuck Schaden - Chicago, IL
host: Those Were the Days"
06-29-1935 - Keith Walker - St. Louis, MO - d. 12-30-1996
writer: Hollywood Radio Theatre"
06-29-1937 - Ivan Cury - NYC
actor: Bobbie Benson "Bobby Benson and the B-Bar-B Riders"

June 29th deaths

01-08-1915 - Guy Mauffette - Montreal, Canada - d. 6-29-2005
announcer: Worked with CBC radio, Canada's French network
02-04-1934 - Bruce Malmuth - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-29-2005
director: New York Yankees baseball games
02-08-1920 - Lana Turner - Wallace, ID - d. 6-29-1995
actor: "Abbott and Costello"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-10-1918 - Pamela Mason - Westgate-on-Sea, Kent, England - d.
6-29-1996
actor: "James Mason and Pamela Mason Show"
03-19-1916 - Irving Wallace - Chicago, IL - d. 6-29-1990
writer: "Have Gun, Will Travel"
05-12-1907 - Kathrine Hepburn - Hartford, CT - d. 6-29-2003
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-23-1928 - Rosemary Clooney - Maysville, KY - d. 6-29-2002
singer: "Rosemary Clooney Show"; "On the Sunny Side"
06-16-1898 - Harold McClinton - d. 6-29-1977
producer: "This Is War"
07-07-1943 - Joel Siegel - Los Angeles, CA - d. 6-29-2007
movie critic: "Joel Siegel's New York"
07-13-1928 - Bob Crane - Waterbury, CT - d. 6-29-1978
actor: "Bob Crane Show"
08-06-1892 - Victor Rodman - Arkansas - d. 6-29-1965
actor: Jerry Payne "Those We Love"
08-21-1907 - Hy Zaret - Syracuse, NY - d. 6-29-2007
composer: "Music for Millions"; "I Love You Joe"
08-29-1882 - Richard Legrand - Mount Tabor section near Portland, OR -
d. 6-29-1963
actor: Richard Q. Peavy "Great Gildersleeve"; Ole "Fibber McGee and
Molly"
09-19-1912 - Edmund Anderson - NYC - d. 6-29-2002
program writer and director for various network programs
09-19-1927 - William Hickey - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-29-1997
performed in radio at the age of 9
11-09-1893 - John P. Medbury - New York - d. 6-29-1947
writer: "Burns and Allen"; "Captain Flagg and Sergeant Quirt"

Ron

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:11:04 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Gale Storm, RIP

Gale Storm, a TV and movie star who got her show-biz start on radio,
died June 27th at the age of 87 in a convalescent hospital in
Danville, CA, where she had been in failing health for months.

Born Josephine Owaissa Cottle on April 5, 1922 in Bloomington, Texas,
she was 17 when she entered a talent contest run by a 1939 CBS radio
series, "Gateway to Hollywood." The premise of the show was that a
male and female actor would be given roles in a series of original
programs with the finalists competing in Hollywood. The winners would
be given new names and a film contract. "Gale Storm" was the name
given to her when she and her partner, Lee Bonnell, won. (They would
eventually marry.)

Storm then appeared in a series of modest budget films, mostly
westerns, at RKO, Monogram, and Republic, including three movies with
Roy Rogers. Her jump to fame was in 1952 in the CBS TV show, "My
Little Margie" which was a summer substitute for "I Love Lucy." Storm
played the busybody daughter of wealthy executive, Charles Farrell.
The show was a big hit and NBC scooped it up where it had good
ratings for the next three years. It was so popular it resulted in a
radio version with the same co-leads, one of only eight TV series to
spawn a radio version.

Later she starred in TV's "Oh Susanna" as a social director on a
luxury liner and she sang on the show also; three of her songs became
best sellers, including "I Hear You Knocking." She went on to guest
star in several prime time TV shows and also did numerous stage
musicals. In her 1980 autobiography, "I Ain't Down Yet," she revealed
she was an alcoholic and credited her husband for helping her through
her dark periods.

In recent years, Storm attended several fan conventions, including
FOTR at Newark where she was the most accessible of stars, even
staying for more photographs with fans, long after most of the  guest
stars had left.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
<[removed]>

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:06:29 -0400
From: James H Arva <wilditralian@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cool Logo Molded In Transcription Disc
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06-29-09

Stephen Jansen mentioned having an AFRS transcription disc with the
unused side stamped with a textured Victor logo.  For what it's worth, I
have my father's old 78-rpm collection (about 99% 12-inchers, but a few
10's), whose content is mostly classical music.  On those discs where
there's only material on one side, there is a similar treatment to the
obverse.  If he would like more information, he's welcome to contact me
off-list.

Regards,

Jim

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:06:35 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Gale Storm, RIP

As if the numerous deaths are not [removed] Gale Storm, perky star of 1950s
TV MY LITTLE MARGIE and the radio program (as well as other radio programs),
just passed away at the age of 87. If memory serves me correctly, she was a
guest at FOTR a few years back.

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0400
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ken Roberts

  The passing of Ken Roberts at age 99 is not what we would call an
"untimely" death, but it would be deserving if that great announcer
could have lived to 100. His life and his work spanned nearly the entire
history of broadcasting so far. I had the pleasure of meeting him at
several FOTR conventions and later interviewing him for "The Airwaves of
New York".
As a youth he regularly visited Gimble's department store in Manhattan
to observe the activity inside the glass-enclosed studios of WGBS,
"because I was just so fascinated with what was going on there." Ken got
his first job in radio at station WLTH in Brooklyn by walking in at the
right moment. The station announcer had just left for CBS and the
manager needed someone in a hurry. "He asked if I had done any work in
radio and I said no, but I had done some [removed]" Just hearing that
voice was enough of an audition. I noted a listing that referred to
Kenneth Roberts as "studio manager" of WLTH. "I was the manager of the
broom," he told me (part of his job was to sweep the floor). He too
moved to CBS after a year.
It seems that Ken Roberts was always on the air. At one point he was
referred to as a "bounce announcer", bounding from one program to
another. His network credits are well known and appreciated; he was also
a regular on local radio in New York. He gave a sense of class to
everything he did.
May his memory be for a blessing.
-- Bill Jaker

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