Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #123
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 3/22/2003 3:26 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 123
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  March 22nd Birthdays                  [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  converting reel to reel to another f  [ "parker2" <parker2@[removed]; ]
  Radio Fights Jim Crow                 [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
  Charlie Chan                          [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
  Re: Sam and Henry -- After The Fact   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Re: Radio Fights Jim Crow             [ "Dennis Mansker" <dennis@[removed] ]
  Re: Jean Hersholt/ Dr. Christian      [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
  In dash MP3 player info               [ "Poindexter" <poindexter@[removed] ]
  Chicken Heart                         [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  March 23rd Birthdays                  [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:57:25 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  March 22nd Birthdays

If you were born on the 22nd of March, you share your birthday with:

1891 - Chico Marx - New York City
1914 - Karl Malden - Chicago, Illinois
1917 - Virginia Grey - Los Angeles, California
1924 - Bill Wendell - New York City

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Make your day, listen to an Olde Tyme Radio Program

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:12:05 -0500
From: "parker2" <parker2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  converting reel to reel to another format--
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

I have a friend that does this professionally C. Park Seward

he did several for me from AFRTS reel's. I will let you contact him--I asked
him first to make sure he agreed-- here is his response

Paul,

Yes, I would be happy to help if they want the tapes on CD. The quality would
be of course better than to cassette but I can do cassette too.

I am not clear on how many tapes they have so it would be hard to set a price
but I could them for $10 per hour including the CDs.

Thanks,
Park

--
C. Park Seward
Video Park
visit us at: [removed]

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:08:52 -0500
From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Fights Jim Crow

 As I recall, "Radio Fights Jim Crow"  features an interview with Frances
Lee, widow of the black actor, Canada Lee  whose voice can be heard on
"New World A'Coming." Blind and frequently in poor health, Frances has
been working with a voice-activated computer to try to complete a memoir
about Mr. Lee.  Lee died quite young in the early 1950s. It's a sad and
complicated story. For more information, please contact me off-line.

Howard Blue

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:10:29 -0500
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Charlie Chan

Recently I had the pleasure of spending several days poring over some of
the Arthur Godfrey Archives at the Library of American Broadcasting at the
University of Maryland in College Park.

Friend Michael Henry of the LAB is Program Chairman of the Washington OTR
group, which had its regular monthly meeting last Friday night, so I was
honored to sit in, and have the opportunity to set up some Arthur Godfrey
display materials.   I'd like to thank the members of the club for their
warm reception.

Jack French opened the program with a 15-minute segment of Charlie Chan,
starring Ed Begley.  Somehow, my education has omitted the fact that Mr.
Begley was one of many talented actors associated with that role.  I
listened with fascination, thinking to myself, "That's Ed Begley?"

Jack French told us he has several such segments, but each one including
the one we heard, for some reason is the Monday night section from what was
always a week-long story line.  Now we'll never know what happened!

Thanks, Mike and Jack, for your kindness.  Now you have me hooked!  This
unworthy person would like more!

Mee Lunsick

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:42:45 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Sam and Henry -- After The Fact

On 3/21/03 5:16 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

It should also be noted that the SnH had been
taken off of WGN in December 1927.

Specifically, the program went off the air after Episode 586, 12/18/27,
and Correll and Gosden immediately left Chicago for a personal appearance
tour thru the South that took them as far as Shreveport, LA. Their time
slot on WGN was filled for the next two weeks by Bill Hay reading the
Bible.

Two weeks later, though, "Sam and Henry" *returned* on WGN -- but without
Correll and Gosden. They were replaced by two other dialect performers
who had never been identified until I uncovered evidence indicating that
they were most likely two performers by the names of Henry Moeller and
Hal Gilles. "Sam and Henry" continued in this ersatz form until 2/16/28,
when it disappeared for good.

There were a number of things going on behind the scenes at this time.
Correll and Gosden had been feuding with WGN management for months over
their proposal for syndicating their program by recordings, and they
finally decided that if the Tribune Company wouldn't relent on that
point, they'd walk at the expiration of their contract. The Tribune
essentially told them -- go ahead. We own the program, we own the
scripts, we own the characters. And we *don't* need you.

The replacement "Sam and Henry" was evidently the Tribune Company trying
to call Correll and Gosden's bluff -- but while they were in Shreveport,
E. C. Rayner of Radio Digest -- a friend of the performers who may very
well have given them the idea for syndication in the first place --
arranged a meeting for their agent, Alec Robb, with Judith Waller of
WMAQ. Correll and Gosden themselves met with Waller as soon as they got
back to Chicago in mid-January of 1928, and it took nearly a month to
work out the deal -- a $25,000 contract for the services of Gosden,
Correll, and Bill Hay that required the Chicago Daily News to double
WMAQ's operating budget.

All during this time the fake "Sam and Henry" continued on WGN, until it
became evident that Correll and Gosden wouldn't be coming back. Given
that the first "Amos 'n' Andy" promo aired on 2/25/28, the termination of
"Sam and Henry" on 2/16 suggests that this was when word reached the
Tribune Company that Correll and Gosden had signed with WMAQ, and this
allows a couple of weeks lead time for the preparation of the promotional
campaign. Considering that Correll and Gosden had written four scripts
before even settling on the names of "Amos" and "Andy," one can imagine
this was a very intense period of work for the performers.

Henry Moeller and Hal Gilles had direct connection to Correll and Gosden.
All four of the performers had been colleagues at the Joe Bren Producing
Company during the early 1920s, and Gosden had taught Moeller and Gilles
a basic form of African-American dialect, just as he had taught it to
Correll -- and Moeller and Gilles then toured as a team producing Bren
minstrel shows for service clubs and lodges around the midwest, just as
Correll and Gosden had done. When Gosden was promoted to the position of
Manager of the Bren Circus Division in 1924, he hired Hal Gilles as his
advance man -- and worked closely with him until leaving the Bren Company
in September 1925. So on the surface, Moeller and Gilles might well have
seemed a very logical choice to continue "Sam and Henry," and it probably
burned Gosden to no end to see the Tribune Company using his one-time
protege as a pawn in a corporate power-play.

Although the Moeller-Gilles version of "Sam and Henry" only ran a month
and a half, the team remained at WGN -- creating a dialect serial of
their own, known alternately as "Herr Louie and the Weasel," or "Louie's
Hungry Five." This was a series done in German dialect, dealing with the
leader of a German oompah band and his sidekick, and it ran on WGN for
more than three years. And in 1930, WGN finally gave in to the idea of
syndication and began distributing recordings of this series --
acknowledging the inevitable about three years too late.

Moeller and Gilles remained active in Chicago radio in various capacities
thru the 1930s, and Hal Gilles has an interesting footnote to his career
-- some time in the late 1940s he teamed up with a partner by the name of
Herbie Hardt, and recorded a risque, sold-under-the-counter "party
record" called "Sixteen Old Ladies Stuck In a Lavatory." He went on to
become a partner in Hargill Records, a company which apparently
specialized in novelty material of the sort that Grandpa used to snicker
over while Grandma wasn't around.

Elizabeth

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:08:59 -0500
From: "Dennis Mansker" <dennis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Radio Fights Jim Crow

Someone just posted 27 "Destination Freedom" shows in mp3 format in the
[removed] newsgroup.
I'm in the process of downloading them now, so I can't vouch for things like
quality, etc., but I thought the group would be interested.

Dennis Mansker

The Mansker Chronicles: [removed]
Chairborne Ranger, featuring A Bad Attitude: A Novel from the Vietnam War:
[removed]

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:09:44 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Jean Hersholt/ Dr. Christian

 Ron Sayles just posted;

I came across this in my readings just recently. I think that it is
something that I knew, but forgot. DID YOU KNOW: Leslie Neilson's uncle is
Jean Hersholt (Dr. Christian).

Hmmm! Ron. Is it possible that your "discovery" in a recent reading was from
my book, "Aw! Relax [removed]! (page 123) :)  C'mon guy. I know you
just read it. Give credit where credit is due. :)

Just kidding him folks. He is one of my best customers. He just ordered 4
more autographed and inscribed copies for his Milwaukee OTR club (MARE).
Ron can do no wrong. :)

Speaking of my book (how's that for a seque?) we'll be going out of town for
over a week, (Cincinnati OTR Convention bound) so if anyone is desperate for
a copy between now and mid April, best get your orders in.

Or, come to the Convention and save the shipping costs. My lovely wife
Dorothy will be manning (woman-ing) a dealers table for that purpose. But if
you can't get there, go to;

[removed]

Regards

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:16:09 -0500
From: "Poindexter" <poindexter@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  In dash MP3 player info

I just bought a Sony MP40 from Best Buy ($188). The disc I took with me had
files that were encoded at 64K and it played flawlessly. It also played on a
deck with the brand name Resonance ($80), but could not be read by a Jensen
deck ($149).

The Sony unit has a nice big display area, which can be set to display the
time, the disc name, folder name or ID3 information.  It also has a display
of the elapsed time on the track you're listening to. Changing folders can
be done with one button, either up or down, but it doesn't have the ability
to search for a specific filename or title.

An unexpected bonus was the resume feature.  The Sony will start up the next
time on the same file, at the same place it stopped (a previous unit I owned
would resume at the same file, but only from the beginning of the file). A
very nice feature if you're 41 minutes into a 45 minute file and hit the
wrong button, thus having to restart the CD player.

When you turn the car off, it beeps to remind you to take the detachable
face off.  It also comes with a remote.  Why would I need a remote when the
deck is within arm's length in the car?

Best advice: take a disc with you and test any model before you buy it.

OTR [removed] Blackie is said to be "enemy to those who make him an
enemy, friend to those who have no friends" and I've always wondered:

What would this poor guy do if someone who had no friends were to make him
an enemy?

Poindexter
Many, many years ago when I was a mere lad, a wise old man revealed to
[removed] secret of life.
Unfortunately, I wasn't smart enough to write it down.

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:16:43 -0500
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Chicken Heart

Hi all:
I was listening to a broadcast of Lights Out and Arch Oboler said that his
story the following week was called, Chicken Heart.  I looked it up in the
Lights Out log and see that it is not in circulation.  Does anyone happen to
know more about this story?  Was this the same version of Chicken Heart that
Oboler used on his record, Drop Dead?  That was a short, five-minute story
about a chicken heart that kept growing larger until it broke out of the
building in which it was housed and began to envelop the entire city.
RyanO

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:16:51 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

 From Those Were The Days --

1948 - The Voice of Firestone was the first commercial radio program to be
carried simultaneously on both AM and FM radio stations.

   Joe

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:12:21 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  March 23rd Birthdays

If you were born on March 23rd, you share your birthday with:

1904 - Joan Crawford - San Antonio, Texas
1910 - Akira Kurosawa, Tokyo, Japan
1926 - Martha Wright - Seattle, Washington

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Make your day, listen to an Olde Tyme Radio Program

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