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Date: 8/30/2005 7:43 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 261
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  8-29 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  New Radio Drama Available via Satell  [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
  Don Wilson, Catchphrases, Mysterious  [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  RE: Alias Brace Beemer                [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  RE: NIGHTFALL Website                 [ "Neil Marsh" <Neil@[removed] ]
  Searching for a song                  [ Rlgsr125@[removed] ]
  Opry vs. Barn Dance                   [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  Catch Phrases                         [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  RE: 8-26 births/deaths                [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  Radio catch phrases                   [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  Candy in the [removed]                 [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  BUY THIS BOOK                         [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  Re: My Music                          [ Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@rocketmai ]
  Frankie Thomas                        [ "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@comc ]
  Bob B.                                [ Zharold138@[removed] ]
  An historic correction                [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
  Brace Beemer                          [ "Phil Stallings" <redrydertexas@sbc ]

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:08:14 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  8-29 births/deaths

August 29th births

08-29-1882 - Richard Legrand - Mount Tabor section near Portland, OR - d.
6-29-1963
actor: Richard Q. Peavy "Great Gildersleeve"; Ole "Fibber McGee and Molly"
08-29-1898 - Preston Sturges - Chicago, IL - d. 8-6-1959
film producer, writer, director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-29-1899 - George V. Denny, Jr. - Washington, [removed] - d. 11-11-1959
moderator: "America's Town Meeting of the Air"
08-29-1906 - Joe Sawyer - Guelph, Canada - d. 4-21-1982
actor: Sergant 'Biff' O'Hara "Rin-Tin-Tin"
08-29-1907 - Lurene Tuttle - Pleasant Lake, IN (Raised: CA) - d. 5-28-1986
actress: Effie Perrine "Advs. of Sam Spade"; Ellie Connors "Lum and Abner"
08-29-1912 - Barry Sullivan - New York City, NY - d. 6-6-1994
actor: Steve Canyon "Steve Canyon"; Simon Templar "The Saint"
08-29-1913 - Sylvia Fine - New York City, NY - d. 10-28-1991
writer: (Wife of Danny Kaye) "Danny Kaye Show"; "Forecast"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
08-29-1914 - Willard Waterman - Madison, WI - d. 2-2-1995
actor: Throckmorton P. Gildersleeve "Great Gildersleeve"; Roger Barton "The
Guiding Light"
08-29-1915 - Ingrid Bergman - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 8-29-1982
actress: "Everything for the Boys"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-29-1916 - George Montgomery - Brady, MT - d. 12-12-2000
actor: "Hollywood Star Time"; "NBC University Theatre of the Air"
08-29-1920 - Charlie Parker - Kansas City, MO - d. 3-12-1955
jazz musician: "This Is Jazz"
08-29-1922 - Arthur Anderson - Staten Island, NY
actor: "Let's Pretend"; Mark Davis "Lawyer Tucker"; Buddy "Tony and Gus"
08-29-1924 - Dinah Washington - Tuscaloosa, AL - d. 12-14-1963
blues singer: "Jubilee"; "Bob Hope Show"; "One Night Stand"

August 29th deaths

02-19-1924 - Lee Marvin - New York City, NY - d. 8-29-1987
actor: "Dragnet"
04-06-1892 - Lowell Thomas - Woodington, OH - d. 8-29-1981
newscaster, commentator: "Lowell Thomas and the News"; "Man with a Question"
05-01-1906 - Rose Hobart - New York City, NY - d. 8-29-2000
actress: "Nightbeat"
06-05-1912 - Dan Ocko - d. 8-29-1991
actor: Killer Kane "Buck Rogers of the 25th Century"; "Sergeant Muggin
"Inspector Thorne"
08-03-1923 - Jean Hagen - Chicago, IL - d. 8-29-1977
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Stars in the Air"
08-29-1915 - Ingrid Bergman - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 8-29-1982
actress: "Everything for the Boys"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-06-1925 - Jimmy Reed - Dunleith, MS - d. 8-29-1976
blues singer, guitarist, harmonica playere: "One Night Stand"
10-01-1889 - Ralph W. Sockman - Mount Vernon, OH - d. 8-29-1970
preacher: "National Radio Pulpit"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:33:52 -0400
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  New Radio Drama Available via Satellite

I'm forwarding this for a friend:

Greetings,

The radio drama gets new life from satellite radio!

[removed];pt=inkheadlines

[ADMINISTRIVIA: Sirius is, as usual, running way behind XM. XM already has an
entire 24/7 channel dedicated to modern audio drama, "Sonic Theater" on
Channel 163, which includes Jim French's Imagination Theater, Falcon's
Twilight Zone, LA Theater Works, and much, much more. But it's nice to see
Sirius trying to catch up, even if they only consider playing the occasional
show on their Talk [removed]  --cfs3]

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:29:06 -0400
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Don Wilson, Catchphrases, Mysterious Traveler

"Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed];
I remember listening to Don Winslow in 1941 on our station
in Portsmouth, Ohio. I was in the 1st grade.

Don Winslow of the Navy was also the very second thing I saw on TV,
after someone loaned my great grandmother one of the newfangled
contraptions. It came on about 3:30 pm, right after Crusader Rabbit,
which came on right after the test pattern. The shows were 15 minutes
long, had cliffhanger endings, and were geared toward us kids.
Possibly it was an old movie serial being rerun.

If the series was well enough known, I wonder if the Jack Benny show
ever, in fact, did a Don Wilson of the Navy sketch.

elizabeth@[removed] wrote on catchphrases:
...I'd only call the first one a catchphrase, the second one is a more
deliberate allusion to the program. "Who was that masked man" just
doesn't make sense without prior knowledge of the Lone Ranger.

Actually, I have heard that phrase used without a direct reference to
the Lone Ranger, as a whimsical reference to someone who interjects
himself into a conversation or situation and then leaves, though,
certainly, the phrase isn't heard all that often. Many people seem to
have only the vaguest notion of its origin, if any. In fact, for a
brief time there was a comic book titled simply _The Masked Man_ that
had nothing at all to do with the Lone Ranger.

Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; wrote to inform us:
The Mysterious Traveler magazine, based on the Robert Arthur/David
Kogan radio program of the same name, ran for five issues in 1951
and 1952. Now it's back, in an online format, and yours truly has
written a story
contained within its pages.
[removed]

What a great idea, Rick, but the "Make Text Larger" function in my
browser (Safari) is grayed out. I suspect this is an important
feature for many readers of this list.

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:21:19 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Alias Brace Beemer

 A few years ago, I read a book (sadly, both the title and author's name
escape me) about the "B" westerns that I used to enjoy at the Saturday
matinee when I was a kid. The author related an anecdote about his cousin
Floyd coming to visit one day, and his mother telling him that Floyd was The
Lone Ranger. It was only later that said author learned that Floyd Brace
Beemer really was The Lone Ranger. It's the only mention I know of where
Brace Beemer was said to have that name and I don't know about its accuracy.
Unfortunately, all my books are now in storage and I have no way of getting
the details about that one just now.

 B. Ray

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:21:59 -0400
From: "Neil Marsh" <Neil@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: NIGHTFALL Website

I'm glad to see people are finding my website, Stephen. Thanks for the
plug!

[removed] If anyone out there has the "lost" Nightfall episodes
"Dreamy" or "The Prize", please let me know, I sure would
like to hear them!

It turns out that "Dreamy" wasn't a "Nightfall" episode after all. It
was a holiday special written by Len Peterson (who was a prolific writer
for the series, among many others), produced by "Nightfall" creator Bill
Howell, and featured many of the actors who regularly appeared on
"Nightfall" (Chris Wiggins, Elva Mai Hoover, John Stocker, et. al.). It
aired in the regular "Nightfall" time slot on Christmas Day of 1981. I
had a chance to listen to "Dreamy" at the CBC Radio Archives while I was
in Toronto doing research on the show last summer. It's quite a
delightful little play about the elf named "Dreamy" who is despised by
all the other elves because he's perceived as lazy. Christmas is almost
ruined when the other elves attempt to dispose of "Dreamy" whose secret
job, it turns out, is to put a dream into every toy.

"The Prize", by Don Bailey and Milo Ringham, is a different matter. From
what I can tell, it was never produced. References to it appeared in the
CBC Radio Guide for that month, though the episode that aired on its
supposed broadcast date -- December 12, 1980 -- was Max Ferguson's
"Where Do We Go From Here?". Series creator/producer Bill Howell doesn't
recall the story, though it would have been he that produced it (he
produced 34 of the 38 episodes made that season). Based on my research,
I would venture a guess that "The Prize" was a script that was submitted
for "Nightfall" and either not accepted or scrapped for one reason or
another. Sadly, Don Bailey died a few years ago and I have been unable
to locate Milo Ringham, otherwise I'd probably have a definite answer.

Glad you found the site, Stephen. Hope you continue to tune in while I
keep on developing it.

-N25

---
Neil Marsh * The Nightfall-25 Project
Neil@[removed] * [removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:22:13 -0400
From: Rlgsr125@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Searching for a song
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There is a song I am trying to [removed] believe Dennis Day may have sung it
on the Jack Benny
program. Some of the words are as [removed]

When the one that you love is in love with you, there's no greater of
blessings by [removed] you don't know how lucky you are.

If you would be able to help me locate this I would really appreciate it.
Thanks

Robert Gray

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:22:37 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Opry vs. Barn Dance

In the '30s, he was known around Chicago as Rubarb Red, on the Barn Dance,
Chicago's answer to our Grand Old Opry.

 The way I heard it, Grand Ol' Opry was Nashville's answer to The Barn Dance
(Two big shows at 7 and 10 PM. There's still plenty of time to hustle on down
to the Eighth Street Theater, folks, and see the show live).

 B. Ray

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:22:55 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Catch Phrases

Its a racist derogatory term but I still hear some older lawyers refer to an
unscrupulous or
incompetent black opponent as a "Calhoun".

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:25:09 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: 8-26 births/deaths

05-24-1907 - Bill Bouchey - Michigan - d. 8-26-1977

actor: Red Albright/Captain Midnight "Captain Midnight"

Does anyone know, was this the same guy who was billed as "Willis Bouchey" on
many TV Perry Mason shows, where he played the judge at the trial?

B. Ray

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:49:36 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio catch phrases
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       I heard someone just the other day say 'Taint funny, McGee' to her
husband after he'd said something. This is, of course what Molly said to
Fibber McGee in "Fibber McGee and Molly".  Other phrases I hear from
time to time are 'Who was that masked man?', 'The Shadow knows', and
'Saints preserve us!'  The last one having been used my Mike Clancy in
"Mr. Keen, Tracer of Lost Persons'.  I believe that we've come to incorporate
so many of these phrases into our modern life that we often forget that many
of them came from OTR.  Many people probably never realized this to begin
with, since they probably heard these phrases used by their parents and grand-
parents.  If anyone's heard ny other examples, I'd like to know what they are.
Another OTR Fan,
Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:21:55 -0400
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Candy in the [removed]

On Monday, August 29, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

What's the name of the Candy Matson episode Jack French refers to in
his interview in which she commandeers a plane piloted by two
[removed] lands it without mishap?

ANSWER:  It's the January 2, 1950 episode which usually bears the title
of "NC 9-8012," which is the ID number of an airplane involved in a
deadly "accident."

Incidentally, Monty Masters, the creator and writer of this show, put
titles on only the first two scripts, "Donna Durham Case" (the
audition), and "Cable Car Murder" (7-7-49)  The other 91 scripts have
no titles, just air dates. To compensate for these omissions on the
existing audio copies (14 so far) various collectors and dealers have
given them names, which have been accepted in our hobby.

Since discoverers of new flowers, birds, stars, etc. get to name them,
Stewart Wright and I took this same privilege upon ourselves.  When
Stewart reviewed the first half of the scripts at Thousand Oaks
Library, he assigned a title to each one. Last fall, when I completed
the survey of the scripts, I created names for all the scripts I
reviewed. These are now posted on Jerry Haendiges' web site, if you'd
like to view our handiwork.

The titles Stewart and I created have now been accepted throughout
cyber space and I've been to several OTR web sites who now list these
titles as though they were "gospel."

And now you know the rest of the [removed]

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
[removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:55:02 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  BUY THIS BOOK

Hey everyone,

During my recovery, I have been reading Elizabeth's  (funny how she's like
Liberace and [removed] name identifies her) book on Amos  n Andy.  And to
borrow a line from Bob Hope, I gotta tell ya that this is  one of the best OTR
books I've ever read.  The narrative moves well and  carries you right along
with
it.  It gives you a real sense of what the  shows were originally intended to
be, and why the broad allegations of racism in  the show are only looking at a
tiny slice of the overall picture.

While Jack Benny has often been credited with creating the situation  comedy,
I have pointed people back to Amos n Andy for even deeper roots of the
genre.  Whether or not you're an Amos n Andy fan, every single person on
this list
should have this book on their bookshelf, or better yet, in their  hands
reading it.  Forget must-see [removed] is must-read OTR, a necessity  to
understand one of the most ground-breaking shows of media.

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
[removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:57:11 -0400
From: Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: My Music

Does anyone know if there are any tapes available of this great show still
running out of England?

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:58:52 -0400
From: "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@[removed];
To: "Old-Time Radio Digest (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Frankie Thomas

Charlie Summers, curmudgeonly sage, informed the gathering throng:

He forgot to mention another actor in this film scheduled to attend the
30th Annual Friends of Old-Time Radio Convention - Tommy the stock boy is
played by none other than "Tom Corbett" himself, Frankie Thomas.

On a Thomas-related note, the latest issue of FILMS OF THE GOLDEN AGE has a
great article on the actor and his experiences starring in the classic 1937
serial "Tim Tyler's Luck."  I scanned this for a fellow serial fan, and if
anyone would like a copy to read drop me an e-mail.

Ivan
--
Classic movies, television and old-time radio at Thrilling Days of
Yesteryear! [removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:37:48 -0400
From: Zharold138@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bob B.

This is a reply to Bob Burchett's story about him  watching "Don Winslow in
the Navy" in the first grade. When he was in the first  grade  there was no TV
to watch then!!
    Ask him to tell you how lone he was in the first  grade when you see him
at the FOTR convention in Newark!!

Your good friend,Bob,Harold.

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:16:44 -0400
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  An historic correction

1922 - The first daily news program on radio was The Radio Digest, on
WBAY. The program, hosted by George F. Thompson, the program's editor,
originated from New York City.

Sorry to say, "The Radio Digest" never happened.  WBAY was AT&T's first
commercial station in New York but it suffered from serious technical
problems and was shut down after only three weeks on the air in July and
August of 1922.  This was certainly unfortunate since the plans called
for a mix of news and feature material similar to NPR's "All Things
Considered", and in the same time slot.
The WBAY staff (though apparently not Mr. Thompson with his Radio
Digest) was transferred to the station of AT&T's Western Electric
subsidiary, WEAF.  Those call letters would be heard for the next 23
years before becoming [removed]
I don't know which was the first daily news program on radio, but the
Detroit News station WWJ was sending out news bulletins as early as 1920.
The real progenitor of all-news radio, however, must be Telefon Hirmondo
(the Telephone Herald), a wired news and information service in
Budapest, Hungary that could be heard over phone lines sixteen hours
each day beginning in 1893!
                                                    --Bill Jaker

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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:33:09 -0400
From: "Phil Stallings" <redrydertexas@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Brace Beemer

Regarding Beemer's name as listed on his birth certificate:
I haven't been able to contact Barbara (his daughter) yet,
but all on the Brace Beemer committee in Mt. Carmel
agree it is Brace Bell Beemer.  If I find out different from
Barbara, I'll leave a note here.
Phil Stallings - Brace Beemer/Lone Ranger Committee -
Mt. Carmel, IL

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