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Date: 8/11/2005 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 242
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OTR Quote                             [ Vince Long <vlongbsh@[removed]; ]
      Yesterday USA is now podcasting       [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Jello museum                          [ "kierniesky" <kierniesky@[removed] ]
      I saw a Maxwell!                      [ Steve Salaba <dangerdanger@sbcgloba ]
      New Book mentions Jean Shepherd       [ Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed] ]
      Did you know? ...                     [ "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@veri ]
      "William Tell Overture" by Spike Jon  [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
      Cabin in the Sky                      [ Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@yahoo. ]
      Re: GUNSMOKE Episode Cavalcade        [ "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@worldn ]
      KNX's farewell to Columbia Square     [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
      8-11 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      el-cheapo DVDs                        [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
      "Who's on first?" author              [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
      Edgar Guest                           [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      OTR ON DVD                            [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Re: Who's on first                    [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Hitting the Target                    [ "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@comc ]
      Last Broadcast Radio Station Leaves   [ seandd@[removed] ]
      Radio Comedy Festival in Washington   [ seandd@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:08:29 -0400
    From: Vince Long <vlongbsh@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Quote

    A friend asked me to help him complete this quote.  He thinks it comes
    from OTR.  Any help out there?

    "Fiction and fact from ?????'s almanac"

    Vince

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:08:35 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Yesterday USA is now podcasting

    Hi Everybody,

    Yesterday USA is now podcasting there tapes show now.  You can read how to
    down load them from the Yesterday USA web site at [removed]  We
    also have put up pages for 20 of the OTR fan clubs.  If you need contact
    information please go to the home page at [removed]  if you have
    any more information please contact Kim Bragg at email
    bill46@[removed]  We will also be broadcasting from FOTR this year
    too.  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:08:52 -0400
    From: "kierniesky" <kierniesky@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jello museum

    Last week The Wall Street Journal mentioned that there is a Jello museum in
    upstate NY.  The web site

    [removed]

    mentions Jello's relationship with Jack Benny with only one sentence,
    although there are ample pictures and text of Bill Cosby, and other history.
    The relationship of Jello to the Benny program was an important and
    interesting one, as documented in the Museum of Broadcasting's "Jack Benny:
    The Radio and Television Work."  Has anyone visited this museum, and does it
    cover Jello's relationship with Jack Benny in any detail?

    -Nik Kierniesky
    Gettysburg

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:09:06 -0400
    From: Steve Salaba <dangerdanger@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  I saw a Maxwell!

    Hi from an occasional lurker.

    I went to an antique car show this past weekend and someone displayed a
    completely restored 1915 (?) Maxwell. Not a single mention of Jack Benny,
    though :(

    Makes me wonder how many Maxwells are still around in the hands of various
    collectors and museums.
    --
    Steve Salaba

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:11:07 -0400
    From: Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed];
    To: OTRDIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  New Book mentions Jean Shepherd
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    _Adaptations: From Short Story to Big Screen 35 great stories that have
    inspired great films_  by Stephanie Harrison, Three Rivers Press, 2005,
    includes "Red Ryder Nails the Hammond Kid" by Jean Shepherd.  The movie "A
    Christmas Story,"  directed by Bob Clark (l983), was based on it.  (Well, I
    didn't know.)  Harrison includes a brief outline of some of Shepherd's
    outrageous radio antics on NY's WOR.

    A footnote states: "Shepherd became bitter and reclusive after he was dropped
    from WOR.  He was belligerent in  public appearances and ultimately even
    disowned his children; when he died in l999, his will stated that he had no
    issue."

    [cue Derek]

    Melanie

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:05:19 -0400
    From: "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Did you know? ...

    I saw the name of Jeff Corey in the Births/Deaths column, and I wondered if
    some of the Digesters knew that in the early days of "Space Patrol" on
    ABC-Radio (and maybe on TV, for all I know), he played the part of
    "Lieutenant" Jeff Corey of the Space Patrol, brother to Commander Corey and
    flight instructor to Cadet Happy, before Happy was assigned to Commander
    Corey?  Oh, well, so much for trivia.

    Buck Saunders

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:06:02 -0400
    From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "William Tell Overture" by Spike Jones

    Derek Tague was very kind to mention my name in the last Digest, and it
    reminded me to ask some of you experts out there (in the ether) who know
    these things what was the name of the horse that wins the race in Spike
    Jones' version of the William Tell Overture.  Is it "Beetle Bomb", "Feedle
    Bomb", "Feetle Bomb", or, less likely, "Fetal Bomb"?

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:42:26 -0400
    From: Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cabin in the Sky

    I just finished watching the movie with Ethel Waters and Eddie
    Anderson on TCM and a couple observations and a question occurred to
    me.

    First, Eddie Anderson could sing quite a bit better than he ever let
    on on the Jack Benny show, for obvious reasons. He was no Sinatra,
    but he could do a pretty good job without the screeching that always
    got laughs on Benny.

    Second, of all the regular cast members, Anderson was the only one
    who did not play a version of himself, and as a result, couldn't
    really get plugs for his movie roles on the show like the others did.
    I've heard various bits, skits, or jokes about Jack, Mary, Phil,
    Dennis, Kenny and even Don being in some movie or other, but never a
    peep about "Rochester." Of course they couldn't because he wasn't
    Eddie Anderson on the show, so how could they possibly work it in?
    Now I haven't heard ALL the shows, so I could be mistaken. Is there
    some reference on the show to his appearance in Cabin in the Sky? And
    if so, how do they do it?

    And finally, a question. John "Bubbles" Sublett does a song, "That's
    Why They Call Me Shine," and I wonder if that is the derivation of
    the old derogatory term for a black man, shine. Does anyone know?

    AB
    --
    _______________
    Alan/Linda Bell
    Grand Rapids, MI

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:43:29 -0400
    From: "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: GUNSMOKE Episode Cavalcade

    Matthew mentioned:

>     Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:01:24 -0400
>     Subject:  Doc Adams real name

>     Hello, I would also submit that Doc's real name was Calvin Moore, due to

    an

>     episode where he'd left some town after needing to kill someone. I have

    this

>     as 31 January, 1953, titled Cavalcade, though I suspect that's the wrong
>     title, since it didn't have much to do with riding horses.

        The episode title, "Cavalcade," is correct.  This episode was produced a
    second time on GUNSMOKE, on 11/08/1959.
    "Cavalcade" is the title on the front page of the script which resides in a
    collection in a private archive.

        See the following URL for a summary of differences between the two
    productions of  "Cavalcade":
    [removed];i=214&t=214

        Like many words, "Cavalcade" has multiple meanings.
    Cavalcade:
    A procession of vehicles, riders, or people on foot.
     or
    Feudal duty to accompany the lord on a minor expedition or as an escort.
     or
    Any procession or parade.

        In that episode, radio's Doc Adams, Howard McNear, says in a very weary
    voice,
    "I ran:  St. Louie, Virginia City, Montana Territory, the Panhandle,
    Wichita, Abilene, and Dodge.  I changed my name to Charles Adams. . . ."

        I can visualize Doc, aka Calvin Moore, riding alone through that
    seemingly endless procession of places on his quest to find a place where he
    will not feel hunted for a crime that was really an act of self-defense.

        Is it any accident that the name of the Lawman who is trying to find Doc
    is "Hunter?"

    Signing off for now,

    Stewart

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:43:48 -0400
    From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  KNX's farewell to Columbia Square

    KNX-1070 will broadcast their special farewell to Columbia Square program
    this Friday night, August 12th.  It can be heard streaming online at
    [removed].  I've heard this program will last 30 minutes, but am not
    certain.

    I don't know how much of the program will include OTR material or history.
    The station is expected to switchover that night from the Hollywood site to
    their new studios on Wilshire Blvd. with KFWB and their other co-owned
    Infinity Los Angeles stations.

    Jim

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:23:06 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  8-11 births/deaths

    August 11th births

    08-11-1867 - Joe Weber - New York, NY - d. 5-10-1940
    comedian: (Weber and Fields) "The Eveready Hour"; "George Jessel Show"
    08-11-1868 - Edgar Norton - London, England - d. 2-6-1953
    actor: "I Love A Mystery"
    08-11-1891 - Helen Broderick - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-25-1959
    actress: (Mother of Broderick Crawford) "Shell Chateau"
    08-11-1900 - Norma Shearer - Montreal, Canada - d. 6-12-1983
    actress: "Everyman's Theatre"; "Louella Parsons"
    08-11-1902 - Lloyd Nolan - San Francisco, CA - d. 9-27-1985
    actor: Johnny Strange "Results Inc."; Martin Kane "Martin Kane, Private Eye"
    08-11-1904 - Jess Stacy - Bird's Point, MO - d. 1-5-1994
    jazz piano player: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
    08-11-1908 - Russell Procope - d. 1-21-1981
    clarinetist, saxophonist: "Duke Ellington and His Orchestra"; "Ellington at
    Newport"
    08-11-1915 - Berne Surrey - d. 8-25-1992
    sound effects: "Suspense (Sorry, Wrong Number)"; "Whistler"; "Sam Spade"
    08-11-1915 - Jean Parker - Deer Lodge, MT
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-11-1925 - Mike Douglas - Chicago, IL
    singer: "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
    08-11-1928 - Arlene Dahl - Minneapolis, MN
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre". Hollywood Stars on Stage"; "Philip Morris
    Playhouse"

    August 11th deaths

    01-24-1862 - Edith Wharton - New York City, NY - d. 8-11-1937
    author: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-01-1917 - "Wee" Bonnie Baker - Orange, TX - d. 8-11-1990
    singer: "Your Hit Parade"
    06-24-1904 - Phil Harris - Linton, IN - d. 8-11-1995
    bandleader, singer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"
    06-29-1914 - Rafael Kubelik - Bychory, Czech Republic - d. 8-11-1996
    conductor: "Musicians Off Stage"
    08-05-1918 - Tom Drake - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-11-1982
    actor: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Proudly We Hail"
    09-08-1913 - Patricia Wilder - Macon, GA - d. 8-11-1995
    actress: Honey Chile "Bob Hope Show"
    12-05-1907 - Reid Kilpatrick - Michigan - d. 8-11-1983
    host: "Quiz of Two Cities"
    12-19-1924 - Rex Barney - Omaha, NE - d. 8-11-1997
    baseball color man: "Game of the Day"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:23:22 -0400
    From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  el-cheapo DVDs

    I've bought a few of the TV show "compilations" DVDs that Jack French
    mentions at my local '99 Cents Only' stores here in California. There is
    quite a selection to choose from, including some OLD theatrical movies. My
    guess is that either their copyrights lapsed, or that they were sold
    way-back-when.
    I assume that the DVDs are available [removed] this chain's stores.
    (Usual disclaimers apply.)

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:23:47 -0400
    From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Who's on first?" author

    According to:
    [removed]

    "One of the most famous routines in the history of comedy is the exchange
    between <[removed];Bud Abbott and Lou Costello
    known as "Who's On First?". The duo performed it thousands of times in
    burlesque, vaudeville, radio, movies and TV. Its first appearance on file
    was the movie <[removed];The Naughty Nineties.
    Millions of fans of the comedy team, who'd heard the routine on the radio,
    went to the movie just to see the skit.

    The pair first met in 1906, but didn't officially start performing together
    until 1936. The famous routine had been around for many years before Abbott
    and Costello put their mark on it.
    No one knows who wrote the skit."

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:24:50 -0400
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Edgar Guest
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    In a message dated 8/10/05 5:18:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     I'm not familiar with the "Fibber" episode to which Dixon refers, but I'd
>     be willing to hazard that the McGees' bedroon wasn't named for him not
>     because of his poetic proficiency, but rather because said bedroom was
>     [removed] ROOM!

    Yep, that was the joke all right.  "Edgar Guest once spent the night
    [removed] this day, we still call it the 'Guest bedroom!'"

    Dixon

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:33:03 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR ON DVD

    You'll find many @ [removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:01:13 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Who's on first

       Mort asked --

       > Does anyone know who wrote the skit?

       A Shell Chateau program from the summer of 1935 Al Jolson's comedy
    quests were two guys, whose name I can't recall, who had a seminal
    "who's on first?" skit in their routine.  It was about the first quarter
    or one third of the A&C routine.  It was only a few lines.
       This would have been a few years before A&C started doing it.
       I understand material from vaudeville would be picked up by others,
    slightly reworked and used by other performers.
       Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:  [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:59:57 -0400
    From: "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@[removed];
    To: "Old-Time Radio Digest (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hitting the Target

    Jack French mentioned in a recent post that he obtained some "el-cheapo"
    DVDs from his son with TV shows related to OTR (like Dragnet and Gang
    Busters) but had no information on where to find them.

    I found some similar DVDs (though I can't be certain they're the same since
    I passed on purchasing any) at our local Target (pronounced TAR-ZHAY) store.
    It's not much, but it's a lead.

    Ivan

    Classic movies, television and old-time radio at Thrilling Days of
    Yesteryear! [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:19:25 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Last Broadcast Radio Station Leaves Hollywood

    This article has some great OTR history in it as it covers the passing of another piece of that era - the last broadcast radio station is leaving Hollywood.

    It mentions Jack Benny, Art Linkletter, Burns and Allen, Edgar Bergen, Orson Welles, Jackie Gleason, Steve Allen, Eddie Cantor, Rosemary Clooney, Ed Wynn and Gene Autry.

    According to the article, "KNX reporter Michael Linder has produced a 55-minute retrospective of Columbia Square's radio history scheduled to run Friday at 10:05 [removed] It will be the last time that old-fashioned reel-to-reel recorders and cart tape machines are used: The new studios are all digital."

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed],0,[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:19:17 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Comedy Festival in Washington State

    There is a radio comedy festival coming up at the American Museum of Radio & Electricity in Bellingham, WA on Sunday August 14.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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