Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #221
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 6/17/2002 8:22 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 221
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Peg Lynch                             [ Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon. ]
      Re: Peg Lynch                         [ gad4@[removed] ]
      Birth Places                          [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE      [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Bob Bailey?                           [ norman flagg <nflagg@[removed]; ]
      Re: Magnetic problem                  [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
      Gunsmoke question                     [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
      Children of OTR performers            [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
      Elmer Fudd gets his wings             [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Re: Arthur Q. Bryan and Elmer Fudd    [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      WB cartoon - I Love to Singa (1936)   [ "W. Gary Wetstein" <wgaryw@pacbell. ]
      HANS CONREID                          [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
      Cap would clean Supe's clock          [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Ground Floor Window--Request for Hel  [ "rlctm" <rlctm@[removed]; ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      re: Superman v Captain Marvel         [ "Ryan Hall" <uncle_festor@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:58:18 -0400
    From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
    To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Peg Lynch

>     As I recall, she (Peg Lynch) was also a radio writer.  She not only
>     starred in "The Couple Next Door" but was one of it's writers.
>     Please correct  me should I be wrong.

    Actually, Peg was the creator and sole writer of Ethel & Albert/The
    Couple Next Door ... and still is.

    For background here's a condensed version of tribute I wrote in 1992
    when we created the Peg Lynch Scholarship program at Massasoit Community
    College in Brockton, MA.  (BTW, we still award an annual scholarship in
    her name):

    ---
    Peg Lynch was born on Nov. 25, 1917 in Lincoln, NE.  Raised in

    Rochester, MN, Peg graduated the U. of MN in June, 1937, a Drama major,

    and headed to Chicago to crack into the hot, young field of

    broadcasting.  Ironically, she landed her first job back in MN, as a

    commercial copywriter at radio station KATE in Albert Lea, where, in

    Feb, 1938, she created and wrote a daily program about "the smaller

    events in everyday life that are familiar to every family."  The show

    was called "The Private Lives of Ethel & Albert. "

    While Ethel & Albert Arbuckle lived in the cozy town of Sandy Harbor,

    Peg and the program moved around.  First to Charlesville, VA, then

    Cumberland, MD, and finally, in 1944, New York ... where Ethel & Albert

    went national on ABC -- costarring Richard Widmark (for the first six

    months).  When Widmark left the program for Broadway -- Alan Bunce

    stepped into the role of Albert.  Peg and Alan worked together for the

    next 21 years, until his death in 1965.

    As the show developed, additional characters joined the family --

    Ethel's Aunt Eva, played by Peg's good friend -- the famous wicked

    witch of west -- Margaret Hamilton.  And, in March, 1946, Baby Susy

    joined the cast -- played by Madeleine Pierce, for you trivia fanatics.

     Not so coincidently, Baby Lisa joined the Ronning household around the

    same time.

    Other actors whose voices were occasionally heard on the show included

    Ed Begley; Raymond Edward Johnson; Leon Janney; Don MacLaughlin, and

    orchestra leader Paul Whiteman --- in his first acting role -- a

    performance, I'm told, that convinced him not to give up his orchestra.

    In 1950, ETHEL & ALBERT bid adieu -- temporarily -- to radio, and moved

    to television for a 7-year stint, 2 years as a featured segment on THE

    KATE SMITH HOUR, and five years in their own show.

    The program moved back to network radio in 1957 as a daily 15-minute

    entry on CBS called THE COUPLE NEXT DOOR.   While the name had changed,

    the program hadn't.  Ethel & Albert left network radio in 1960 -- but

    you can't keep a good show, or a great writer like Peg Lynch, down.

    Ethel & Albert scripts were being produced on radio in many other

    countries, keeping Peg busy.

    In 1975, the door bell once again chimed "There's No Place Like Home,"

    and Ethel and Albert were back on the air as a syndicated feature

    called THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE.  For a year and a half, Peg and her

    new Albert, talented veteran radio actor Bob Dryden proved that the

    little things in life that happened to Ethel & Albert are really

    timeless.

    ---

    In recent years, Peg has been a popular performer at many of the radio

    conventions, and has worked with several fine actors as Albert,

    including Bob Dryden, Bob Hastings, Parley Baer and Bill Schallert.

    Alan Chapman
    Coproducer, Radio Classics Live

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:58:44 -0400
    From: gad4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Peg Lynch

    In answer to the question regarding Peg Lynch, I have to respond that I am a
    fan of hers also.  She is still alive, and time has not slowed this talented
    lady. She has only gotten better. She had not only acted in her show but
    also wrote it.  In fact, she is still writing and performing her Ethel and
    Albert recreations at various locations.    I have to say that I view this
    lady as a comic genious in the ranks of Lucille Ball. Why she is not on tv
    or radio anymore, I have no idea.  She's better than 99% out there now.

    Many years she has appeared at the Friends of OTR convention in Newark where
    she has recreated her role with new stories.   During her show, the house is
    usually brought down with laughter. She's definately one of the legends. Im
    hoping we all have the honor of seeing her this year.

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:00:21 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Birth Places

    I am looking for the birth places of the following persons.

    Herb Polesie
    Billy Hillpot
    Chester Stratton
    Josef Pasternack

    I would appreciate any help that you can give me.

    Thanks.
    --
    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:58:57 -0400
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE

    Here is what we have for this week on the OTRN- high end streaming audio for
    the week starting Sunday, June 16th    [removed]

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
    Jerry Salutes Father's Day
    1. TEXACO TOWN - SUMMER REVIEW   6/20/37   Father's Day
    2. FATHER KNOWS BEST - 6/18/50  "Father's Day Trip"
    3. THE PHIL HARRIS/ALICE FAYE SHOW   66/19/49 "Frankie's Foster-Son"
    4. THE GREAT GILDERSLEEVE   - 6/21/42    "Father's Day Chair"

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
    1. MY FRIEND IRMA   CBS -  4/11/47    First show of the series. Marie Wilson.
    2. THE WHISTLER - CBS  -  10/24/48   Frank Lovejoy stars in "Search for an
    Unknown"
    3. COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL with Bill Stern    Pgm. #522 - 11/4/49
    with guest: Peter Lawford.

    Enjoy !       Tom & Jerry

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:59:06 -0400
    From: norman flagg <nflagg@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bob Bailey?

    Bob Baily, IMO the best by far of the J. Dollars. I remember reading
    somewhere about a tragedy connected with his death. Anyone know what that
    was all about?

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:59:45 -0400
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Magnetic problem

    Yesterday at our OTR club meeting we had a gift exchange. I picked up a
    shrink wrapped box of Radio Spirits tapes. They seemed to be brand new and
    unopened.

    However, when I played each of the four tapes I could hear that they had
    been in proximity of some kind of magnetic field. The volume was up and
    down through out the tapes. I checked all four tapes and they all had the
    same problem.

    This can happen if you place a tape on a very large magnetic, such as a
    bulk eraser. It can also happen if a tape is left on a TV set right next to
    the picture tube. Or if the tape is near some kind of large motor.

    Small magnetics would not be this destructive.

    I'm just wondering if anyone else ever bought or received a brand new set
    of tapes with this problem.

    A thought just came to mind. With the latest security measures, I wonder if
    metal detectors might be turned up high enough to cause this problem.

    I've always told people who fly, to pack tapes in their suitcases or hand
    them to security to put through Xray and not carry them through the metal
    detectors. But, now I'm wondering if even luggage and packages are check by
    metal detectors.

    Xray never use to bother tapes, only professional film.

    Just a thought. I'll call [removed] tomorrow and see how they want to handle the
    exchange. Since many of us still ship tapes through the mail and other
    shipping companies, I wonder if we need to mark the outside of the box.
    But, then again, shipping people probably don't read those notes.

    They only read the word FRAGILE and then step back an extra three feet when
    they throw those packages.

    Fred
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:00:12 -0400
    From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
    To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Gunsmoke question

    Hello all:
    I was listening to an episode of Gunsmoke from August of 1955.  William
    Conrad came on during a commercial for Chesterfield and said, "this is
    Gunsmoke's second year on radio."  However, Gunsmoke premiered on radio in
    April of 1952, which meant the show would have been on for over three years
    instead of just one.  I know Gunsmoke was always carried on CBS so I'm
    baffled.  Can someone clear this up?
    RyanO

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:00:31 -0400
    From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Children of OTR performers

              I have a few questions regarding this subject.
    What about the children of Penny Singleton, Bob
    Hope, and Bing Crosby?
              I heard Penny Singleton had her own show
    at one time on which she co-starred with her daughter.
              Bob Hope is 99 years old and appeared several
    times on  radio.  Surely, he had some children during
    this time.
              The same could be said of Bing Crosby.

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:00:52 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Elmer Fudd gets his wings

    Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; asked if anyone could "listen to
    Arthur Q. Bryan as either Doc Gamble on Fibber McGee and Molly or as Lt.
    Walt Levinson on Richard Diamond, and not think of Elmer Fudd?" I find
    Mr. Bryan as Clarence the angel in _It's a Wonderful Life_ even more
    distracting. It's hard not to picture Elmer Fudd floating about with
    halo, harps, and pre-won wings as we've seen him at the end of Bugs
    Bunny cartoons where some scheme to destwoy the wascawwy wabbit has just
    gone tewwibwy awwy.

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:01:15 -0400
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Arthur Q. Bryan and Elmer Fudd

    Rick Keating asks:

>     Can anyone listen to Arthur Q. Bryan as either
>     Doc Gamble on Fibber McGee and Molly or as Lt. Walt
>     Levinson on Richard Diamond, and not think of Elmer
>     Fudd? I wonder if people listening to OTR in the 40s
>     had that same reaction, and if it helped or hurt him
>     in terms of people accepting the non Fudd characters?

    Having been born in 1959, I can relate to your [removed] but if I had
    to guess, I'd say it's more likely that 1940's moviegoers had the opposite
    reaction: they heard Elmer Fudd and thought, "Hey, that's Doc Gamble!"
    After all, for most, "Fibber McGee and Molly" was a weekly visit.  Even
    assuming the same listeners (along with those who followed "Richard Diamond"
    weekly) went to the movies once or twice a week, how many times a year would
    they encounter a cartoon in which Elmer Fudd appeared?  Once, twice, thrice
    at most.  Bugs Bunny and his cohorts were very popular at the movies, [removed]
    but they weren't OMNIPRESENT, as they are today, thanks (or no) to TV.

    Michael

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:01:29 -0400
    From: "W. Gary Wetstein" <wgaryw@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  WB cartoon - I Love to Singa (1936) - posted
     to usenet

    hi all,

    as promised, i've posted this cartoon, which was requested by several
    people, to the following newsgroup:

    [removed]

    under the subject:

    "By Request - WB - 1936 - I Love to Singa"

    if anyone out there wants the file, but doesn't know how to access usenet,
    you can always contact me off the list.

    regards,

    w. gary w.

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:48:16 -0400
    From: PURKASZ@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  HANS CONREID

        A droll fellow indeed!
        I was doing some voice work for somebody, I've forgotten who back in
    early 70's and in the studio ready to go to work when in walked Hans Conreid.
        I stood to attention and saluted, he looked behind him and we both
    laughed. I told him about being a big fan on OTR and that somehow I always
    recognized his voice in the supporting roles.
        He was delighted as the world had yet to become OTR mad as it is now.
        At one point I realized that he must not have heard any of those shows as
    they were broadcast live.
        I mentioned my favorite was an episode of Suspense called. "The Search
    For Henri LeFevre" with Paul Muni.
        His eyes glazed and he recounted the joys of working with the great Muni,
    know to be a stern taskmaster. They were both in a very good production and
    knew it.
        I asked him if he would like a cassette copy as I had it on reel-to-reel
    thanks to my friend Skip Craig from Jay Ward Productions.
        I brought it in with me next day and it was like he was given a new tie
    on Father's Day. A warm handshake evolved into a hug and we went on with our
    work.
        Incidentally, you'd be surprised how many of those folks who starred in
    Suspense had little or no idea of the effect from those shows and in most
    cases, never even heard them.
        It was my great pleasure to give cassettes as well to Eddie Bracken with
    whom I appeared in "National Lampoon Vacation" when he was playing Wally of
    Wally's World.
        And Robert Mitchum who I used to hang with in Hollywood whom was a mutual
    friend, said that he never heard any of his radio broadcasts!!
        The magic works for everyone, including the contributors!!!
        Seems only right.
                     <A HREF="[removed],+Michael+C.">Michael
    C. Gwynne</A>

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:50:24 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cap would clean Supe's clock

    Well, we're offtopic again, I guess, but certainly there was a lot of
    crossover between kids' shows and comic books, [removed]

    Jer51473@[removed] observed:
     > I remember though, a sought of debate about who would win in a fight
     > between superman and capt. marvel.

    I think that was pretty well established in _MAD_ while it was, also, a
    comic book. Captain Marbles could always kick Supe's butt; only by
    craftily tricking him into hitting himself did Superduperman prevail.
    And that's pretty much what happened in real life, too. As I recall, DC
    buffaloed Fawcett into turning the character over to them, and they
    killed it until the 70's when it occurred to someone that The Big Red
    Cheese might be a marketable commodity. I think someone on this list
    corrected my recollection of the situation of the event a year or two
    ago, so I won't stick my neck out again.

    But, just in terms of their own parameters I think Cap would win; his
    powers are of magical origin, and Superman is susceptible only to
    krytonite and to magic.

     >...but for some reason the vast majority of us preferred the captain.

    My fondest memories of Captain Marvel are my grandfather reading his
    stories to me, long before I could read myself, and both of us laughing
    frequently. I think that was the difference: Captain Marvel, largely the
      work of C. C. Beck (I feel the breath of more knowledgeable
    authorities on my neck; I think maybe one of the Binder boys did the
    writing and Beck just the art) had a whimsical quality that Superman
    lacked, and a host of endearing secondary characters. Both the
    storylines and the art style were clean and jaunty. Even the villains
    made you want to give them noogies more than to see them get the gas
    chamber.

    Also, you had to be born on Krypton to be Superman, whereas you only had
    to be an exceptionally fortunate newsboy (Well, that was Captain Marvel,
    Jr.: Sr. was on - Hah! There's the tie-in - radio. But I don't think he
    started out as a boy broadcaster. [removed]). Also Billy Batson's secret
    identity was his REAL identity, a kid like us, and when he said the
    magic word he not only got super powers, he also got to be a grownup,
    without having to worry about tax audits or prostate exams.

    [Jules Feiffer has pointed out that our identifying with kid heroes
    didn't extend to Robin, the first children's entertainment figure to be
    outed, decades before Tinky Winky. Without benefit of magic or having
    been born on Krypton he was still twice the boy any of us would ever be,
    and we resented him for it.]

    The early Superman stories took themselves a bit too seriously; they had
    the exaggerated sense of self-importance only teenage authors could
    impart (though not nearly as much so as the unintentionally laughable,
    pompous, self-involved and angst-ridden superheroes of today).

    Basically, Beck, Binder or whoever brought a combination of mature
    writing and art skills and a lighthearted sense of fun that both
    toddlers and grandfathers could appreciate.

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:54:47 -0400
    From: "rlctm" <rlctm@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ground Floor Window--Request for Help

    One of the OTR programs featuring the physically challenged I quickly recall
    is Radio City Playhouse's Ground Floor Window. This episode puts the
    listener in the wheelchair with the lead character Danny. You feel the
    frustrations and problems associated with a physical handicap. Ernest Kinoy
    did an amazing job writing this script. I am currently taking a grad school
    education class on the exceptional student in the classroom. We will study
    all types of students with various disabilities who are now "mainstreamed"
    into regular classrooms. One of the objectives of the class is for us as
    students to be able to relate to those with different disabilities, physical
    or mental. I am going to give a copy of Ground Floor Window to my instructor
    as an example of what the challenged individual really thinks and feels. Now
    comes a favor I'm asking of the astute members of the Digest--Can you help
    me with other examples of OTR shows which feature the physically or mentally
    challenged individual? The citation can include either a regular character
    in a series; a guest on a show; or a series like Radio City Playhouse with a
    particular episode about the disabled.  The series can be either comedy or
    drama as long as the character is portrayed realistically and sensitively.
    Does anything stand out to you as Ground Floor Window did for me? I would
    like to give my instructor other examples; maybe this can help others in my
    class (and future classes I hope to teach) understand that these people have
    the same hopes, dreams, joys and sorrows as others and just desire to be
    accepted for what they are--members of the human race just like everyone
    else. Thank you for your help.
    Randy Collins

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:19:47 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From Those Were the Days --

    1942 - Suspense, known as radio's outstanding theatre of thrills,
    debuted on CBS radio. The program kept millions of loyal listeners in
    suspense for the next 20 years.

    Born this day --

    1904 - Ralph (Rexford) Bellamy d. Nov 29, 1991

    1910 - Red (Clyde Julian) Foley d. Sep 19, 1968

    1917 - Dean Martin (Dino Crocetti) d. Dec 25, 1995

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:20:13 -0400
    From: "Ryan Hall" <uncle_festor@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Superman v Captain Marvel

    Jer51473@[removed] wrote an interesting blip about Captain Marvel v Superman
    and I thought I would share my own story about that. Its interesting that he
    never liked the Superman radio show, but did like all the subsequent
    TV/Movie renditions. Personally, I always thought Superman was sort of a
    corny comic and I hated all the TV/Movie renditions. I thought it was just
    because I did not like Superman in general. It was not until I heard some of
    the fantastic early 40s radio serials of Superman that made me reconsider my
    views on Superman. Personally, those old radio Superman shows were a lot
    more "adult like" than the TV/Movie rendition because Superman was more in
    the shadows. By that I mean, Superman would appear and the Clark Kent would
    always make the people who had seen Superman think they were hallucinating
    or something. It wasn't the cheesy up in the air, its a bird, its a plane,
    its Superman! that everyone knew who he was. Personally, I thought the radio
    show was somewhat more believeable than the movies (I mean Superman IV:
    getting rid of all the nuclear weapons in the world???). But that's just my
    personal opinion. If it wasn't for the radio show, I'd still think Superman
    was the cheesiest superhero.
    As for Capt. Marvel, I never really cared for him as a comic book either. I
    don't believe he was ever a radio [removed] I could be mistaken. Marvel was
    however, not as stereotypical a superhero as Superman was. Superman was a
    rip off of my personal favorite Doc Savage anyway, but we'll forget that for
    now. Marvel comicbooks did have more original story lines though. I will
    give them that. Well, I guess I should close this. I'm straying off the
    straight and narrow into comic books.

    Ryan1

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