Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #323
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Date: 10/21/2005 2:11 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 323
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Paging Mr. [removed]                 [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      white feller                          [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Re: Personal Attacks                  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      Abbott and Costello routine           [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
      George Cates                          [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      10-20 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Tonto's White Feller, to Scout        [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]

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    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:56:42 +0000
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Paging Mr. [removed]

    In the current flap about "Foley" sound effects, Bobb Lynes, myself and the
    other traditionalists seem to be regarded as doddering dinosaurs on the
    endangered species list.  Well, at least by the thoroughly modern,
    forward-thinking visionaries who ascribe to the "same work, same name" theme

    My grand-daughter actually falls in the latter group.  She refers to all
    rodeo cowboys on bucking bronchos as well as polo team riders as
    "jockeys."  (After all, aren't they all men on horseback in a competitive
    event?) I probably have no more chance of converting little Chelsea to
    changing her mind about her terminology than I do the Foley-Adherents.

    But next time you guys are writing (or adapting) a radio play, instead of
    using "SX" as the traditional abbreviation in it to designate sound effects
    in your script, try substituting "FO" and see what the response will be.
    (At least my grand-daughter will understand you.)

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:57:03 +0000
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  white feller

    Oops, Jim Nixon gave a very good explanation of white feller.

    I stand corrected.

    js

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    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:57:22 +0000
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Personal Attacks

    I suppose this would be seriously OT if I didn't have a vague memory of a
    radio show back in the forties. Apparently George Washington was extremely
    unpopular by the end of his second term, and that is probably what is being
    referred to by Franklin's grandson (incidentally, Franklin's and his son
    became estranged with the passing of Franklin's wife, and I believe the two
    never communicated with each other again. Furthermore, I think the son became
    a loyalist (Tory) and moved to England. The grandson might have been raised
    anti-American). The OTR connection is a vaguely remembered segment of "Mr.
    President," where Edward Arnold plays Washington and attempts to explain his
    unpopularity. Hopefully one of the collectors on the list has a copy of the
    program and can amplify this.

    Thanx,

      B. Ray

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    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:57:44 +0000
    From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Abbott and Costello routine

    Hi all,
    Well first let me wish all the folks going to the FOTR convention a safe
    trip.  Some year I'm going to make it.  It's a long walk from MN.
    About the A&C Mudder Fodder bit, it's on an Edgar Bergen show as
    well.  Judy Garland was also on the show and it was a Father's Day
    episode.  I don't have a
    date, though.
    Hope I'm not repeating what has already come through this fabulous network
    of incredible people.
    Bill

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    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:58:04 +0000
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  George Cates
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            I just noticed that the name of George Cates was listed in the births/
    deaths list on the mailing list.  Didn't he conduct the Lawrence Welk
    orchestra for a while?  I remember seeing him doing so on several of the
    performances and specials that were broadcast on local PBS television.
    I hope that this is the same person.

            BTW, was there an equivalent of PBS on radio or did all of the
    stations
    have commercial support?  There were so many sponsors on OTR.  What
    company/product sponsored the most OTR programs?

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:59:38 +0000
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  10-20 births/deaths

    October 20th births

    10-20-1882 - Bela Lugosi - Lugos, Hungary - d. 8-16-1956
    actor: "Crime Does Not Pay"
    10-20-1882 - Margaret Dumont - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-6-1965
    actress: "Paramount Movie Parade"
    10-20-1884 - Thomas Chalmers - New York, NY - d. 6-12-1966
    actor: Sam Young "Pepper Young's Family"
    10-20-1889 - Robert Fiske - Griggsville, MO - d. 9-12-1944
    actor: Speed Robertson "Air Advs. of Jimmie Allen"
    10-20-1895 - Rex Ingram - Cairo, IL - d. 9-19-1965
    actor: "Free World Theatre"
    10-20-1897 - Adolph Deutsch - London, England - d. 1-2-1980
    arranger, conductor, composer: "Kraft Program"; "This Is Hollywood"
    10-20-1897 - William A. Bacher - d. 4-20-1965
    producer, director: "Al Jolson Show"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "Treasury Star Parade"
    10-20-1900 - Wayne Morse - Dane County, WI - d. 7-22-1974
    [removed] senator: "Rebuttal"
    10-20-1904 - Anna Neagle - Forest Gate, Essex, England - d. 6-3-1986
    actress: "Keep 'Em Rolling"; "Kate Smith Hour"; "Radio Tribute to the Kind
    and Queen"
    10-20-1905 - Frederic Dannay - New York, NY - d. 9-3-1982
    writer: "Adventures of Ellery Queen"; "The Shadow"; "Ford Theatre"
    10-20-1907 - Arlene Francis - Boston, MA - d. 5-31-2001
    panelist, actress: "What's My Line"; Ann Scotland,"The Affairs of Ann Scotland"
    10-20-1911 - Will Rogers, Jr. - New York, NY - d. 7-9-1993
    actor: Will Rogers "Rogers of the Gazette"
    10-20-1913 - "Grandpa" Jones - Niagra, KY - d. 2-19-1998
    country singer, banjoist: "Grand Ole Opry"
    10-20-1913 - Barney Phillips - St. Louis, MO - d. 8-17-1982
    actor: Ed Jacobs "Dragnet"; Somber Jones "Hawk Larabee"; "Gunsmoke"
    10-20-1914 - Fayard Nicholas - Mobile, AL
    dancer: (The Nicholas Brothers) "Big Broadcast of 1936"; "Ben Bernie Show"
    10-20-1922 - John Anderson - Clayton, IL - d. 8-7-1992
    actor: William Clark "Horizons West"
    10-20-1926 - Carolina Cotton - Cash, AR - d. 6-10-1997
    yodeler: "Hollywood Barn Dance"
    10-20-1927 - Priscilla Lyon - Washington County, NC - d. 3-7-1980
    actress: Corliss Archer "Meet Corliss Archer"; Amy Foster "Those We Love"
    10-20-1931 - Mickey Mantle - Spavinaw, OK - d. 8-13-1995
    baseball great: "Hear It Now"; "Feature Project"
    10-20-1935 - Jerry Orbach - New York, NY - d. 12-28-2004
    actor: "CBS Mystery Theatre"

    October 20th deaths
    02-13-1877 - Sidney Smith - d- 10-20-1935
    comic strip writer: "The Gumps" based on his comic strip
    04-22-1921 - Charlotte Lawrence - California - d. 10-20-1993
    actress: Stacy McGill "Advs. of Christopher Wells"; Reba Britten "Just
    Plain Bill"
    05-18-1908 - Ted Malone - Colorado Springs, CO - d. 10-20-1989
    commentator: "Between the Bookends"; "Pilgrimage of Poetry"
    05-30-1891 - Ben Bernie - Bayonne, NJ - d. 10-20-1943
    bandleader: (The Old Maestro) "Ben Bernie Orchestra"; "Musical Mock Trial"
    06-25-1911 - Martin Gosch - d. 10-20-1973
    producer, creator, writer: "Abbott and Costello Show"; "Amazing Mr. Smith"
    07-18-1903 - Riza Royce - Lancaster, PA - d. 10-20-1980
    actress: Victoria Lorring "Young Widder Brown"
    07-24-1890 - Basil Ruysdael - Jersey City, NJ - d. 10-20-1960
    announcer: "Beggar's Bowl"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Cavalcade of America"
    08-10-1874 - Herbert Hoover - West Branch, IA - d. 10-20-1964
    [removed] president: "The People's Platform"
    08-23-1925 - Larry Nunn - Marshfield, OR - d. 10-20-1974
    actor: Don Bradley "Glorious One"; Peter Bretn "Brenthouse"
    09-03-1920 - Jackson Weaver - d. 10-20-1992
    actor: "A Bright Tomorrow"
    09-06-1894 - Billy Mills - Flint, MI - d. 10-20-1971
    conductor: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Great Gildersleeve"; "Amos 'n' Andy"
    09-07-1913 - Anthony Quayle - Ainsdale, England - d. 10-20-1989
    actor:  Guest Panelist "[removed]"
    10-14-1896 - Bud Flanagan - Whitechapel, London, England - d. 10-20-1968
    singer, actor: Sang signature tune for "Dad's Army"
    11-02-1913 - Burt Lancaster - New York, NY - d. 10-20-1994
    actor: "Ford Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-05-1905 - Joel McCrea - South Pasadena, CA - d. 10-20-1990
    actor: Jace Pearson "Tales of the Texas Rangers"
    11-07-1883 - Solomon Lightfoot Michaux - Newport News, VA - d. 10-20-1968
    preacher: "Elder Michaux's Happiness Church Service"
    11-29-1917 - Merle Travis - Muhlenberg County, KY - d. 10-20-1983
    singer, guitarist: "Hollywood Barn Dance"
    12-12-1904 - Pete Pumiglio - d. 10-20-1996
    musician: "The Ipana Troubadors"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:39:49 +0000
    From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Tonto's White Feller, to Scout

    I always thought THE LONE RANGER's change was to avoid confuson with
    baseball phenom, Bobby Feller--

    And to honor the baseball birddog, who signed [removed]

    ;-)

    High-Yo, Jimberino

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