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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 147
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Magnetic tape [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Re:Hal Roach Radio Station?? [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
Cincinatti Convention [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
Today in radio history [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Also Seeking OTR Traders [ Tsunami1000@[removed] ]
Re: Madam Queen's Entrance [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
otr radio stations [ Michael Browning <aquarii2u@[removed] ]
Thank you [ "Richard Carpenter" <sinatra@raging ]
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:00:51 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Magnetic tape
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 01:28:46 -0400
From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
I know that ABC allowed Bing Crosby to use magnetic tape circa 1947, but I
was wondering when the networks stopped using discs for transcribing and
switched to tape. Was it over a long period of time or a relatively short
one?
Robert Dwan, who directed "You Bet Your Life" for all of its 14 years, says in his book =As
Long As They're Laughing= that Bing Crosby was allowed to record in 1946, as an exception
to the usual rule against recorded programs. Another exception, he says, was "The Bell
Telephone Hour of Fine Music, which originated in New York at 8 PM and was recorded for
later broadcast out west. John Guedel insisted that if Crosby could record, why not
Groucho?
Dwan says that the first season of "You Bet Your Life" was recorded on acetate records, and
the editing was very difficult. The following year, Crosby learned of magnetic tape and
immediately proposed that ABC buy some tape equipment. Bing's clout being what it was,
ABC investigated Ampex, but felt they needed some guarantee of continued production,
since Ampex was a tiny company. So Bing sent Ampex an unsolicited check for $50,000 to
Ampex. Dwan says that three editing machines were purchased, two for Bing's show and
one for Groucho's. That would be the 1948-49 season.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210
lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:00:56 -0400
From: Eric J Cooper
<ejcooper2002@[removed];
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Hal Roach Radio Station??
I have done a fair amount of research into Los Angeles' radio past ,
having lived in Southern California nearly all of my life (since 1958).
To my knowledge Hal Roach never ran a "station" as such, but that does
not preclude any radio recording studio on site or possible recording
sessions that might have been done there. He was active in that OTHER
medium--the Life Of Riley and Amos 'n' Andy TV versions were both filmed
there. and it was Mr. Roach who repackaged the Little Rascals/Our Gang
shorts and Laurel and Hardy films for TV [removed] and Hardy cut
a radio audition disc for NBC but I don't know if it was done at Mr.
Roach's studios.
Warner Brothers ran station KFWB from the late twenties to the late
forties. Perhaps your friend has confused them with Hal Roach?
Eric Cooper
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:00 -0400
From: George Aust
<austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Cincinatti Convention
In reading the various posts about the Cincinatti convention over the
past few weeks it sounds like there is going to be alot of drinking
going on. How about wild women? Haven't heard anything about them? Or is
that hush hush? How about the party hats and the practical jokes that go
along with the drunks?
Gosh I wish I were going!
George Aust
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:04 -0400
From: Joe Mackey
<joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history
Actually yesterday in radio history, still having connecting
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From Those Were The Days, 17 April
1933 - Backed by the On the Trail portion of the magnificent Grand
Canyon Suite, Johnny Rovetini, pillbox hat and all, uttered the words
"Call for Philip Morris" for the first time on radio. The famous phrase
was said in perfect B flat pitch and tone to perfectly match the
accompanying music. This "Call for Philip Morris" phrase became one of
the most famous in all of advertising. Here are a few other classics
from advertising’s golden age to jog your brain’s memory cells: "See the
[removed] in your Chevrolet," "Pepsi Cola hits the spot, 12 full ounces and
that’s a lot," "When better cars are built, Buick will build them,"
"Aren’t you glad you use Dial? Don’t you wish everybody did?"
1935 - People gathered around the radio to listen for the first time to
what would become the ultimate horror show on NBC. Lights Out remained
on the until 1952.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:08 -0400
From:
Tsunami1000@[removed]
To:
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Subject: Also Seeking OTR Traders
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Hello everyone! Like the other person a few days ago, I, too, am seeking
some OTR traders. I prefer a little bit of everything, and my preferred
medium is standard cd audio. I have the means to burn cds, including MP3's
(although I have only a few of them and use it mainly as a kind of holding
medium until I have the equipment to make my own standard cds from them). I
also am able to make cassette copies from Cds, and to those potential traders
who can deal only in cassettes, I want to hear from you as well and see what
you have in your collection. Anyone interested, I will be happy to send a
pasted listing of what I now hold. Thanks to all! JIM F
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:13 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod
<lizmcl@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Madam Queen's Entrance
On 4/18/02 12:29 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:
Kingfish says "There she comes. The
people are turning around" and then begins 30 seconds (an eternity in radio)
of laughter and hilarity that leaves me dumbfounded as to what the studio
audience must have been looking at. It is certain they did not see anything
they were expecting in spite of all they had just heard
I've often wondered about this as well. Lillian Randolph, who played the
Madam in the sitcom era, was not a petite woman, as can be seen from her
movie appearances, but neither was she obese. My best guess is that on
cue, she came marching out in a very determined manner, dressed in a
flamboyant outfit -- and fixed Charles Correll in an intimidtating glare.
(Imagine Aunt Esther giving Fred G. Sanford one of her "fish-eyed fool"
looks.)
What might have made this scene even more unusual for the studio audience
is the fact that the radio A&A didn't go in for audience sight gags: the
performers never appeared in costume, and with the exception of the
occasional bald jokes directed at Gosden (he usually wore a hat in front
of the live audience, and would lift it in embarrassment whenever the
Kingfish's mother-in-law made disparaging references to "Baldy,") there
was little visual hamming-it-up for the audience's benefit. So while the
audience may have been primed for the appearance of Lillian Randolph --
they certainly weren't expecting to see Madam Queen herself come storming
out onto the stage in all her glory.
Personally, I've always had mixed feelings about this scene: the Madam
Queen of the serial era was an extremely well-developed character for
more than a decade, even though she only had speaking roles in three
episodes, and Correll and Gosden were always careful to present her
sympathetically -- see, for example, the heartbreaking letter the Madam
wrote to Andy in the episode of 5/7/34, quoted at
[removed]~[removed]. Despite the exaggerated 1950
characterization, it had been made clear during the serial years that the
Madam was the only woman Andy ever seriously loved -- and she broke it
off because she finally came to realize that the relationship could never
work. So while I can understand the value in rousing the studio audience
up for a big laugh in 1950, I wish it hadn't had to come at the expense
of a character who had once been so much more.
Elizabeth
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:31 -0400
From: Michael Browning <aquarii2u@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: otr radio stations
I have been a member receiving old time radio digest
for a little over six months and have never seen the
following mentioned, (LIVE365). This is a web sight
that can be reached on the internet and has they say
over 40,000 + stations of streaming radio. The people
that read this digest are all listeners of otr and
they can find more than 40 stations that contain
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Live 365 but it doesn't cost anything to join and once
you are a member you can have your own set of presets.
So all you have to do then is put your username and
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time. I know that there are some of you that know
about this sight and then there are some that don't.
This is said for you so you can enjoy otr and a lot of
it. You always here of some of the sights that are
talked about but I have never heard of this being
mentioned. So all you have to do is sign up and enjoy.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:39 -0400
From: "Richard Carpenter" <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Thank you
Thanks so much to all who, on or off list, have expressed condolences on
the loss of my father. The response only reinforces my opinion that when it
comes to nice people, old-time-radio fans head the list.
Richard Carpenter
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