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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 143


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Re: Stan Freberg-new stuff,reissues etc.
	 Jack Benny's all time biggest laugh!!!!!!
	 Freberg on CD
	 re Jack's Biggest Laugh
	 Re: New Radio Spirits Catalogue
	 sound quality
	 Looking [removed] an opinion
	 Paul Harvey Comments
	 Radio Spirits Catalog
	 Re: Dan Hughes recollection about Benny
	 Cassette Prices, Freberg on CD, Corwin, Longest/Biggest Laugh
	 Stan Freberg on CD
	 Re: M. G. B.
	 Re: Stan Freburg
	 info on these shows please
	 Cincy convention

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:56:23 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Stan Freberg-new stuff,reissues etc.
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

John Nesteroff [removed]

>It hasn't ever been released on CD, tho Rhino Records IS planning on 
>some kind of Stan Freberg box set to be released later on this year 
>(Capitol Records are also planning on releasing some sort of Mel Blanc 
>collection this year too).  There are only two  authorized Freberg CD"s 
>in existance right now but there are supposedly plenty coming out 
>sometime soon.

Sorry, John.  
I've got the CD right in front of me.
Stan Freburg presents the United States of America.  Capitol.  Copyright 
1989.  CDP 7 92061 2.
Maybe Stan Freburg didn't authorize it.  He just wrote the liner notes 
and (according to the liner notes) went back into the studio to mix the 
restored material and add new sound effects (dialog and music were 
recovered, original sound effects tracks were not).

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 08:57:08 EDT
From: TBARNETT@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny's all time biggest laugh!!!!!!
Message-Id: <m0uAFkW-000Y40C@[removed]>

To: SMTP    --AHIPC2S

From:    Tom Barnett

Subject: Jack Benny's all time biggest laugh!!!!!!

Dan is correct. Although the Money or Your Life sequence was the most pub-
licized. The Opera incident was the longest laugh ever.

This fact was attested to by both Jack himself in an interview, and one
of his writers, Milt Josefburg, in Milt's own book.

The conversation, however, was between Don Wilson and Dorothy Kirsten (sp)
of the Metropolitan Opera. They were discussing Madame Butterfly and
associated aria's.

When Jack piped in with "Well I think." Mary cut him off with "Oh shut up!"

The laugh went on for 40 to 60 sec's and the cast could hardly get back on
track after that point.

Good Call, Dan!!!!!!

Tom Barnett
EDS/VDTO Finance and Personnel Systems Support
(810)986-0389 (8-226) Internet:TBARNETT@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:38:39 -0500
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed], jnestero@[removed]
Subject: Freberg on CD
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

John Nesteroff said, of "Stan Freberg Presents the United States of America":
>It hasn't ever been released on CD, tho Rhino Records IS planning on some 
>kind of Stan Freberg box set to be released later on this [removed]

In fact, it was released on CD by Capitol Records in 1989.  A copy's in the
collection here at U of Texas Fine Arts Library.

Still, it's good to hear that _all_ or most of his stuff will also be
transfered.

John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:38:43 -0500
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: dhughes@[removed], otr@[removed]
Subject: re Jack's Biggest Laugh
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Dan Hughes wrote:
>The biggest laugh was precipitated by a conversation between Don Wilson 
>and Mary Livingstone.  They were discussing an opera.  Both used lots of 
>"opera-technical" language that the average joe could not quite follow.  
>This conversation was obviously way over Jack's head.  Nonetheless, he 
>tried to get into the discussion by tentatively saying, "Well, I 
>think--"  At which point, Mary said loudly, "OH, SHUT UP!"
>
>I have heard this exchange, and it is much funnier than when I try to put 
>it in print.  Anybody else remember it?

I have that bit on one of my tapes, and yes, it is a funny, funny moment. 
But we could sure still argue about "the biggest laugh on JB."  My
candidate:  the episode in which Mary got her words twisted in a bit about
a garage, and her line came out "Jack, how did your car get up on the grass
reek?"  Total pandemonium.

John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:32:27 -0400
From: IDickerson@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: New Radio Spirits Catalogue
Message-ID: <960419143226_378560285@[removed]>

>New RADIO SPIRITS Catalog 

Hi,

Could someone be kind enough to tell me how else to get hold of a Radio
Spirits catalogue. I live in Paris, France, so--thanks to France
Telecom--cannot dial 1-800 numbers. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Thanks,

Ian Dickerson,
Honorary Secretary, The Saint Club

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:10:34 -0400
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: sound quality
Message-ID: <960419151033_473645327@[removed]>

I liked Jack Palmer's question about my obsession with sound quality.  He's
right, not everyone is as particular as I am!
But I think those of us who do a little more distributing of old time radio
cassettes than just a casual show here and there have somewhat of an
obligation to be at least conscious of the quality of shows we are sending
out - and if the sound quality of a certain specific show, is below standard,
make some reference to it in the catalog.  This opens up a whole new can of
worms topic about sound quality ratings that I'd rather not open up.  Again,
I applaud getting good deals on old time radio.  But if the deal is at the
sacrifice of a quality recording, it's obviously NOT such a good deal unless
your main goal is QUANTITY as opposed to quality.   I think the majority of
the old time radio hobbyist-dealers are doing a good job in the
quality-preservation - but there are perhaps one or two who are not doing so
well.  Sorry, no names from me.  Again, if you want QUANTITY and QUALITY at
the cheapest possible price, take advantage of one or more of the reputable
club lending libraries.  Just my nineteen cents [removed]
- Bob B  platecap@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:11:16 -0400
From: CardiacRx@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Looking [removed] an opinion
Message-ID: <960419161114_276112514@[removed]>

I was wondering if anyone out there might be able to suggest an avenue for
finding a particular book that was published some years ago.  The book I'm
looking for is titled "The Shadow Scrapbook" by Anthony Tollin.  I'm sure I
could obtain a copy through interlibrary loan, however, I would much rather
own it.  I have checked out a couple of local used book stores, but no luck.
 Would anyone know of a specialty shop, or mail order firm, [removed] where I
might try?  I'd greatly appreciate it.

Also, my 2 cents worth regarding the debate that has been raging about
cassette price slashing in the waning convention hours.  If a dealer can
afford to or is willing to slash his prices, so be it.  If you were going on
vacation, would you complain about benefitting from airfare wars and refuse
to fly at the cheaper rate???  I sure don't.  And to the individual who
refuses to cut prices because he'll sell it elsewhere anyway:  hey, I can
respect that--he wants the most for his money, just don't gripe to me about
doing the same (getting the most for my money) when I wait for prices to
slash.  If I wait too long and miss a rare find because of it, I'll know
better next time.  Hobby or not, it's also free enterprise.  And I really
doubt it hurts the larger dealers that much, since the number of individuals
purchasing cassettes overall WELL outweighs those who can attend the limited
number of [removed]'m sure many people collecting are unaware of Cincy
and/or Newark.  Also, if I bought some cassettes for a [removed] for $[removed]
thought the quality was rotten, I guarantee I wouldn't go back, and make sure
to post the dealer I got the merchandise from in the digest to warn everyone
else to stay away.  I would hope others would also provide the same courtesy.
 I don't know that I'd call it OTR Darwinism, but if I can get a decent
quality cassette for $1 from John Doe, or pay $6 from a big dealer, I think
the common sense response is pretty clear.  Maybe it's a good idea for the
little guy to put some pressure on the bigger guns [removed]

Thanks for the [removed] for any info regarding that book.
Have a good weekend, all.

--Bob (CardiacRx@[removed])

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:26:21 -0400
From: EricRhoads@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Paul Harvey Comments
Message-ID: <960419162620_378622019@[removed]>

Ever since Paul Harvey mentioned my book on the air the phones have been
ringing with questions. I know someone posted a message wondering how to get
it, so I thought I'd reply. 

The book is called BLAST FROM THE PAST:A PICTORIAL HISTORY OF RADIO'S FIRST
75 YEARS. It's based on 75 years of commercial radio roadcasting and covers
pre-invention of radio and decade by decade from the 20s to the 90s. Its a
coffee table gift book, 472 pages, and 975 RARE most never before seen
photos. Book sells for [removed] from Streamline Press (not BMI as Paul Harvey
said) at 800-226-7857 or 407-655-8778. 

Comments about the bookx 

"Really, saying you wrote a great book hardly covers it! I enjoyed it more
than any book I've received in the past ten years."-Buddy Basch

"You have done a marvelous job compiling this pictorial history. I can
remember S O M E of these radio shows. Those were wonderful [removed] Pat
Robertson CBN

"It is indeed sort of a radio museum." _Erick Barnouw

Thanks for all teh kind words. Hope you'll buy a book.
-Eric Rhoads author (ericrhoads@[removed])

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:51:31 -0700
From: pivo19@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Radio Spirits Catalog
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I'm new to OTR Digest so maybe this has been discussed before, but since 
I, too, just received the latest Radio Spirits Catalog I'd like to know 
if anyone else out there thoroughly dislikes the 90-minute tape format, 
with each tape containing three half-hour shows?
	I still have some albums in this format that were given to me as 
gifts and I still haven't listened to all the tapes because of problems 
with continuity.  On a one-hour tape I can stop anywhere and pick up the 
story when I resume listening.
	I cringed when I saw one of my favorite shows ever, "Dragnet," 
offered by RS in the 9-hr/6-tape format. I'll probably get it anyway if 
nobody else offers anything similar, but I wonder if I'm alone in this 
opinion or if others share my view.
	I love the album presentation, but will confine it almost 
exclusively to those companies that offer one-hour/one-tape shows.
	---Lee Detroit pivo19@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:13:59 -0400
From: BROACH88@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Dan Hughes recollection about Benny
Message-ID: <960419171359_194405252@[removed]>

The exchange that Dan referred to about opera that brought such a big laugh
was between Don Wilson and opera singer Dorothy Kirsten, but it was Mary
Livingstone that made the OH SHUT UP comment to Jack.
Bob Roach

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:36:43 -0400
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Prices, Freberg on CD, Corwin, Longest/Biggest Laugh
Message-ID: <960419173642_378675051@[removed]>

Hi Gang -                      April 19 - 1996 -- Friday - 4:35 PM cdt  

In reading recent issues of the otrdigest, I find that most critiques 
regarding dealers and prices are missing the point.  Let's take a 
hypothetical case where a dealer has 20 cassettes to sell.  10 are 
SHADOW and 10 are GREEN LAMA.  All cassettes are priced at $[removed]  He 
sells his SHADOW cassettes right away, but nobody is interested in the 
GREEN LAMA cassettes.  Why?  Few if any attendees ever heard of the 
Green Lama.   So, near the end of the convention he lowers his price 
to $[removed]  He sells all 10 GREEN LAMA cassettes.  Why?  People are willing
to spend $[removed] for a show to see if they like it, but they won't spend
$[removed] on an unknown show.    
Result:  Ten people hear the show and they like it.  Next year they'll
be back and will spend $[removed] for more GREEN LAMA shows.  They'll also 
tell their friends about this "new" program.  It's called merchandising.

--- New Topic -- Stan Freberg CD ---

It appears that Cliff Nesteroff has been misinformed.  The Re-Release of 
"Stan Freberg Presents The United States of America" on CD was in 1989 by 
Capitol Records, Inc., and it contains the New Material described by 
Michael Carraher and others.   The CD number is CDP 7 92061-2  The upc 
code is 7777-92061-2. 
Moral of the story: Don't beleive everything you see on [removed]

--- New Topic --  13 By Corwin ---  

This week the "second" chapter of "13 by Corwin" on Chicago's NPR station, 
WBEZ, was a re-run of the "first" chapter, ie, "The Odyssey of Runyan 
Jones".   Did anybody else get the same program twice?  Was it a NPR feed
problem or a local problem at WBEZ?  Unfortunately, 'BEZ is ignoring the 
problem.  We might get "12 by Corwin" in the Chicago area. 

--- New Topic -- Biggest Laugh or Longest Laugh? ---

It is my understanding that "Your Money or Your Life" is claimed to be 
the LONGEST laugh on the Jack Benny Program, whereas "OH, SHUT UP" was 
the BIGGEST laugh.  I never timed either one.  They are both great lines.

-- Happy Taping --   Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois 
kenpiletic@[removed] 

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:33:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: jnestero@[removed] (John Nesteroff)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Stan Freberg on CD
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

	Other than Stan Freberg's [removed] which we've been discussing 
lately, these are all the Freberg stuff that I know of that has been 
released on [removed] so far.


	Stan Freberg's Greatest Hits- Released under the Curb Label, May '93
	Tracks:

		1. St. George and the Dragonet
		2. John And Marsha
		3. Wun'erful, Wun'erful (Part 1 & 2)
		4. Try	
		5. I've Got You Under My Skin
		6. Little Blue Riding Hood
		7. The Yellow Rose Of Texas
		8. Banana Boat (Day-O)
		9. The World Is Waiting for the Sunrise
		10. Heartbreak Hotel



	Stan Freberg: Collector's Series- Released by EMI (Holland) in 
November '93.  I don't know what tracks are on it.

	Stan Freberg Show- Released by Radiola.  Just a collection of 
stuff from his show I suppose.


-Cliff N.
		
		

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:51:28 EDT
From: BWWG42A@[removed] (MR JACK L PALMER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: M. G. B.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Jack Palmer * [removed] #[removed] ] --

To Gregg Oppenheimer
	I believe you are referring to N. T. G. who used the initals.  If my
memory is still working the initials stood for Niles T. Granlund.  I'm
not sure about the spelling.  Somewhere in y refernce books I have some
info about him but can not locate it at the moment.  Jack

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:51:33 EDT
From: BWWG42A@[removed] (MR JACK L PALMER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Stan Freburg
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Jack Palmer * [removed] #[removed] ] --

To John Nesteroff,
	I hate to contrdict anyone, but the Stan Freburg Presents the US Of
America is on a CD.  I am holding a copy in my hand at this time.  It
was issued by Capitol and the number is CDP 7 92061-2.   As someone
else mentioned it does contain additional material not on the LP.      
Jack

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:00:43 -0700
From: ratt@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: info on these shows please
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

i have just found these two shows on 16" disks and would like some info if
possible.

lady be beautiful  mutual-don lee network  30 min program 1947

uncle johnathon  cbs  15 min program  1939

thanks for any help,
    michael utz  (ratt@[removed])

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:30:10 EDT
From: BWWG42A@[removed] (MR JACK L PALMER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cincy convention
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Jack Palmer * [removed] #[removed] ] --

A couple of questions.  Does anyone remember whom was awarded the Stone-
Waterman Award thsi year?  In the excitement of the Bob Burchett
presentation, I forgot to write it down, and now I can't remember the
name.  I would certainly appreciate an answer.
	Also, someone on the Digest asked me to write up the convention for
their [removed]  I had the address but it has disappeared, so if
anyone can help on this I would like to hear from you.  BTW, I loved
the convention this year.    Jack

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