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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 464


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Fwd: otr Digest V95 #462
	 A Dickens of a show!
	 Charles Dickens Radio Programs
	 A Christmas Carol
	       TRIVIA!
	 CRN Satellite details
	 Commercials in otr
	 Re: how to download
	 You Betcha (Sniffles)

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Date: 21 Dec 1995 16:24:14 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Robert j. Field)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Fwd: otr Digest V95 #462
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Date: 16 Dec 1995 15:40:31 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Robert j. Field)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: [removed] Digest V95 #453
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Does anyone else have this problem?  Is WMAQ inconsistent in
> broadcasting old time radio?

Sorry, this is not my message. Please ignore it because I answered this
question for another member.
Short answer= "Sports takes precedence." 
Thanks,

Bob Field
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server. 
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:15:05 -0500
From: stevecap@[removed] (Steven Capsuto)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: A Dickens of a show!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Bill Mize wrote: 

>enjoyment of Dickens with my enjoyment of OTR.   Specifically, I'm looking for 
>quality dramatizations of Dickens' work.  

Besides the CAMPBELL PLAYHOUSE "A Christmas Carol," my favorite is the
THEATER GUILD ON THE AIR's 1950 production of "David Copperfield.  A very
young Richard Burton plays David, with Cyril Ritchard (sp?) as Mr. McCawber
and Boris Karloff as Uriah Heep.

Also pretty good: THE CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER's "A Christmas Carol," with
host [removed] Marshall as Scrooge.

The worst radio version of Dickens I've heard -- though entertaining in its
own bizarre way -- is the LUX RADIO THEATER's 1954 version of "Great
Expectations."  Somewhere around puberty, Pip develops an American accent
and becomes Rock Hudson.  Barbara Rush costars.  Oddly, my recording of this
show is from the Canadian airing with a CBC(?) ID at the end.

_____New subject_____

RE: Rochester and race

I'm relating the following from memory, and can't remember where I read it.
Perhaps one of you can fill in details:

In the late 1940s, there was a week when Jack Benny's show couldn't be
broadcast live, so the network ran a repeat from ca. 1940.  In the
intervening years, Rochester's character had become less stereotypical.  The
rerun they chose depicted Rochester taking money from his girlfriend and
using it to gamble in a crapshoot.  Many listeners complained.

-- Steven
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Steven Capsuto, Philadelphia
stevecap@[removed]
WEB page: [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:37:19 -0600
From: bechtell@[removed] (Linwood G. Bechtel)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Charles Dickens Radio Programs
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Has anyone seen or heard any of Dickens books being done in radio drama 
format ? I know the BBC has done "Great Expectations" but I can't seem to 
find any others. Several have been put out as audio cassette readings but 
that just leaves something to be desired. I"d really like to trade for or 
buy some of these shows if they exist. As always, thanks for your help. This 
is a great group ! Merry Christmas to all and to all happy listening !

Jerry in Illinois

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:55:59 -0600
From: bechtell@[removed] (Linwood G. Bechtel)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: A Christmas Carol
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I just got Digest #463 right after I sent a note relative to Charles Dickens 
radio drama. In this digest there was a schedule for HCJB for Christmas Eve. 
One of the shows is to be Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" in the 1939 original 
broadcast mode. Is there anyone out there who would consider taping this 
show for me to purchase from them ? Please email me <bechtell@[removed]>

Thanks,
Jerry in Illinois

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Date:          Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:20:07 4
From: "Ronald F. Apgar" <apgar@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       TRIVIA!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

What 1940s sit-com featured Ann Sotheran in the part of an outspoken 
Brooklyn beauty?

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:06:01 -0800
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: CRN Satellite details
Message-ID: <951221170559_20987863@[removed]>

In response to Stuart Joseph's question about satellite particulars of
Collector's Radio [removed]

CRN is on Satcom C-5, Transponder 19, Channel 06-1
Our uplink provider is now owned by ABC.

I should mention, however, that this is a DAT feed.
Unless you have a receiver made by companies like Scientific Atlanta, Ariel
or Fairchild I would be surprised if you can receive it.  It is not
scrambled, but is digital as is much of what is on C-5.  Most of the major
networks as well as syndicated shows like When Radio Was are fed in this
format (and on this same satellite).

If you have access to a radio or television station they probably have the
necessary equipment to receive our feeds.

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 20:10 EST
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Commercials in otr
Message-Id: <m0tSw03-000JjCC@[removed]>

>Even tho I've been a bit melodramatic in my argument here, surely there
>are other members of this list who agree?  
>
>Keep the commercials!  Never, EVER edit programs!  Preserve program integrity!
>

First off, I agree with both Dick Veit and Dixon Chandler.  

However, there are at least two kinds of collectors out there:
1) Those who are looking to hear only the program content of the particular
program, not an as-it-was-broadcast collector.  These persons enjoy the otr
mostly from the perspective of the content of the episode whether it be drama,
comedy, mystery, etc.
2) Those who are also interested in otr from a more historical perspective. The
content of the program is important to them, but the whole broadcast including
commercials, maybe airchecks, etc. as it was heard is of utmost importance.

I think the latter also blend into the former because there is so much otr 
that is without commercials.  For example, I collect a lot of sci-fi including
X Minus One and Dimension X.  When I can only get the AFRS version, I begin
keeping my eyes open for an NBC copy that includes the commercials (if any) or
the public announcements.  I want those airchecks too, if I can get them.

I think there can be hard core collectors who really only want (or prefer) the
episode sans commercials, so not all the hard core would fall into the latter
category.

As Dixon mentions, from a historical perspective (my primary otr interest),
I want
the complete broadcast if I can get it.  I not only want to hear the show,
but I 
want the sociological aspect of hearing what the radio listener of that period 
experienced.  For this reason, I am also collecting news items.  I want to have
a clearer understanding of the period from radio's perspective, and I can best 
get that through a total experience.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:17:03 -0500
From: Joelsiegel@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: how to download
Message-ID: <951221221627_96744924@[removed]>

i have a "friend" who has no idea how to download. could you e-mail me fairly
explicit step-by-step instructions (for word for windows or word perfect, i
think my "friend" has both word processing programs) and i'll make sure he or
she gets them.

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:33:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon H Chandler <dchandle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: You Betcha (Sniffles)
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

RE:  "Whatcha doin', huh, mister, hih, mister, whatcha?"  and "You betcha": 

I forget who bought this up, but I can confirm that sure, Sniffles The
Mouse of Warner Bros. cartoons mouthed Teeny's catch phrases too, and Bugs
Bunny, on more than one occasion picked up a telephone and said, Oh, is
that you, Myrt?  Howz every little thing?"

I'm convinced the Warner Bros animators had a special place in their
hearts for Fibber Mc Gee and Molly, since other catch phrases also popped
up with regularity:

"That's purrty good, Johnny, but that ain't the way I heerd it!," the
Old-Timer's line, was also voiced by Bugs at least once.  

And . . . um, it seems like there were others, but I can't remember them
now.  Can anybody add to this?

NEW TOPIC:  Having intro'd this topic, along with the previous one about
cutting commercials, I must gracefully bow out for a few days, due to holiday
travel.  I look forward to catching up on my reading of the OTR list when I
get back, and I hope everybody enjoys the rest of the holiday season.

-dc


 -- 
"After all, what the hell?"     --Dan Turner        dchandle@[removed]

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