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Date: 3/17/2007 11:05 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 86
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      George and Gracie                     [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Betty Hutton                          [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      RE: Cisco Kid                         [ Fred Bertelsen <frdbertelsen@yahoo. ]
      yes Alice is with us                  [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]
      Inner Sanctum--Judas Clock/Cleopatra  [ "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed]; ]
      interviews                            [ "Scott A Eberbach" <saeberbach@eart ]
      3-16 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Cincinnati Redux                      [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Re: Radio Fidelity and mp3            [ Chargous@[removed] ]
      3-17 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      This week in radio history 18-24 Mar  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:43:59 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  George and Gracie

>     Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:19:30 -0400
>     From: ddunfee@[removed]

>     I just heard a 1940 show where George was upset because she was dating
>     someone else.  I'm also struck how in these early times the show seems
>     much more a vaudeville routine then the situation comedy it became
>     later.

    There was a TV show about radio comedy a number of years ago on PBS
    in which George described how he noticed that their ratings were
    gradually dropping, and he started trying to figure out why.  He
    finally realized that they were still playing young people dating,
    when they were by this time married with children.

    He also recalled that Gracie thought she was getting too old for the
    off-center character that she portayed.  He replied that if you're
    stupid, you stay stupid when you get older, but the ways you show it
    change.  Now, you put two roasts in the oven, a big one and a small
    one, so that when the small roast is burned, you know the big roast
    is done.

    In any event, George decided that it was time for the  show to become
    a show about a married couple, and their ratings rebounded.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:53:31 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Betty Hutton

    Betty Hutton was on COMMAND PERFORMANCE so many times it was hard to avoid
    her after listening to a few consecutive episodes.  For anyone attending the
    Cincinnati OTR Convention, Friday morning there will be an hour-long film
    showing of OTR-related short films and one of them is COMMAND PERFORMANCE
    (which means you get to see Bob Hope, Judy Garland, etc. behind the
    mircophones reading from scripts and the technicians cutting the actual
    transcription discs while the show is being recorded).  Among the guests you
    will see Betty Hutton singing and dancing.

    MG

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:55:01 -0400
    From: Fred Bertelsen <frdbertelsen@[removed];
    To: Old-Tyme Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Cisco Kid
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    Bob Slate wrote:

>     Does anybody know any additional information on their OTR careers, not
>     counting their movie and television appearances?

      Michael Rye (Rye Billsbury) was the announcer for the Cisco Kid during the
    period in question.

      Fred

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:55:20 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  yes Alice is with us

    Hi Everybody,

    yes Shirley   Mitchell who played Alice on Fibber is still with us and she
    was at FOTR last year.  Other people who were part of the show that are with
    us include Gil Stratton who played Ed from the Drug  Store.  Gloria McMillan
    who played Debbie Lynn who was Ed girl.  Dick Beals played such roles as a
    newspaper boy on the show, and Tom Koch who was one of the writers on the
    show.  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:55:42 -0400
    From: "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Inner Sanctum--Judas Clock/Cleopatra's Clock
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    I posted this once before, but around the time I posted, I had a brief problem
    with my email.  As a result, even though someone may have replied, I never
    received the email, or the digest with the answer.  A couple of years ago, I
    purchased an Inner Sanctum set of CD's.  On the set is an AFRS version of the
    Judas Clock.  The announcer states that the story is the Judas Clock, but in
    the body of the story, the clock is referred to as Cleopatra's Clock.  As in
    the April 17th version of the Judas Clock, the story stars Berry Kruger.  I
    couldn't find the episode in any logs, though I may have been overlooking it.
    I was wondering what the date of the broadcast was?  Thanks in advance.

    Bob

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:57:19 -0400
    From: "Scott A Eberbach" <saeberbach@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  interviews
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    Hi all,

    For those who may be interested there are 4 interviews at
    [removed] with Carlton E. Morse,
    Mercedes McCambridge, Russell Thorson with Jim Boles, and Tony Randall. This
    was a link from the easy ace blog web site at
    [removed] which has a lot of links to many of the
    classic radio shows that we know and love with many shows available for a
    free download.

    All these interviews touch on ILAM and the actor's tenure on that show but
    also talk about other facets of their show business careers. I'm not sure
    when these interviews were made, but the one with Mercedes McCambridge seems
    to be from sometime in 1978 because she talks about Himan Brown's CBSRMT
    just starting it's 4th season. The one with Tony Randall seems to be when he
    started starring as Felix Unger on TV's "The Odd Couple." Probably sometime
    in 1970. The one with Russell Thorson and Jim Boles seems to be from the
    early to mid 1970's. What I found interesting is hearing Jim Boles without
    his Doc Long Texas drawl! He also details some of his movie credits as well
    which was the subject of a posting on the digest awhile back. The interview
    with Carlton E. Morse seems to be late in his life as he seems to taking
    quite a long time in searching his memory for an answer to the interviewer's
    question. He was still living in the Bay area though as they make some
    mention of that in passing during the interview. Not only does he talk about
    ILAM and One Mans Family he also talks about His Honor the Barber, and
    Family Skeleton. Strangely enough, he makes no mention of his earlier radio
    serials prior to ILAM and One Man's Family. Still an interesting interview
    all the same. I don't know who the interviewers were, but I did enjoy
    listening to them and thought that members of this digest would enjoy them
    as well. Best to all.

    Scott

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:57:52 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-16 births/deaths

    March 16th births

    03-16-1859 - Alexander Popov - Turinsk District, Russia - d. 1-13-1906
    One of three claimants for inventor of radio (along with Marconi and
    de Forest)
    03-16-1885 - Rev. Dr. William L. Stidger - Moundsville, WV - d. 8-7-1949
    pastor: "Getting the Most Out of Life"
    03-16-1886 - Howard Pierce - d. 1-xx-1973
    Owned a piece of the Lone Ranger
    03-16-1889 - Elsie Janis - Columbus, OH - d. 2-27-1956
    First female announcer on network radio
    03-16-1891 - Phil M. Donnelly - Lebanon, MO - d. 9-12-1961
    governor missouri: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    03-16-1892 - James C. Petrillo - Chicago, IL - d. 10-23-1984
    union leader" Head of the American Federation of Musicians
    03-16-1893 - Isobel Elson - Cambridge, England - d. 1-12-1981
    actor: Jessie Hughes "Young Dr. Malone"
    03-16-1894 - Elizabeth Lennox - Ionia, MI - d. 5-3-1992
    singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "American Album of Familiar
    Music"
    03-16-1897 - Conrad Nagel - Keokuk, IA - d. 2-24-1970
    actor, emcee: "Silver Theatre"; "Passing Parade"
    03-16-1901 - Edward Pawley - Kansas City, KS - d. 1-27-1988
    actor: Steve Wilson "Big Town"
    03-16-1906 - Arch Presby - Canada - d. 3-xx-1987
    announcer, emcee: "Smilin' Ed and His Buster Brown Gang"
    03-16-1906 - Henny Youngman - London, England - d. 2-24-1998
    comedian: (Take my wife, please) "Kate Smith Hour"; "Radio Hall of Fame"
    03-16-1908 - Robert Rossen - NYC - d. 2-18-1966
    film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    03-16-1916 - Mercedes McCambridge - Joliet, IL - d. 3-2-2004
    actor: Sunny Richards "I Love A Mystery"; Martha Ellis Bryant
    "Defense Attorney"
    03-16-1916 - Walter Reed - Fort Ward, Bainbridge Island, WA - d.
    8-20-2001
    actor: "The Bombadier"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-16-1920 - Leo McKern - Sydney, Australia - d. 7-23-2002
    actor: Horace Rumpole "Rumpole of the Bailey"
    03-16-1920 - Wolf Rilla - Berlin, Germany - d. 10-19-2005
    writer for the BBC
    03-16-1925 - Lane Nakano - Los Angeles, CA - d. 4-28-2005
    actor: "The Big Show"
    03-16-1926 - Jerry Lewis - Newark, NJ
    comedian: "Martin and Lewis Show"
    03-16-1927 - Dick Beals - Detroit, MI
    actor: Dan Reid "Lone Ranger"
    03-16-1927 - Olga San Juan - Brooklyn, NY
    actor: "Frank Morgan Show"; "[removed] Journal"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-16-1931 - Betty Johnson - Guilford County, NC
    singer: "Arthur Godfrey Time"

    March 16th deaths

    01-14-1901 - Bebe Daniels - Dallas, TX - d. 3-16-1971
    actor: "Life with the Lyons"; "Louella Parsons"
    02-16-1900 - Albert Hackett - NYC - d. 3-16-1995
    playwright: "Star Spangled Theatre"
    03-05-1903 - Minerva Pious - Odessa, Russia - d. 3-16-1979
    commedienne: Mrs. Pansy Nussbaum "Fred Allen Show"
    03-24-1902 - Thomas E, Dewey - Owosso, MI - d. 3-16-1971
    presidential candidate: "Jack Benny Show"; "Racketbusters Roundtable"
    05-21-1918 - Anthony Alfred Ambrose - New Alexandria, PA - d. 3-16-2003
    composer/singer: WHJB Greensburg, Pennsylvania
    05-28-1922 - Scott McKay - Pleasantville, IA - d. 3-16-1987
    actor: John Nelson "Barry Cameron"
    07-03-1900 - John Mason Brown - Louisville, KY - d. 3-16-1969
    host-critic: "Of Men and Books"
    08-14-1893 - Carl Benton Reid - Lansing, MI - d. 3-16-1973
    actor: Roger Allen "Big Sister"
    08-31-1903 - Arthur Godfrey - NYC - d. 3-16-1983
    emcee: (The Old Redhead) "Arthur Godfrey Time"; "Arthur Godfrey's
    Talent Scouts"
    10-12-1891 - Perle Mesta - Sturgis, MI - d. 3-16-1975
    renowned party giver: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    11-11-1899 - Harold J. "Pie" Traynor - Framingham, MA - d. 3-16-1972
    sportscaster: KQV Pittsburgh
    xx-xx-1904 - Jean Tennyson - Chicago, IL - d. 3-16-1991
    soprano: "Great Moments in Music"
    xx-xx-xxxx - Major J. Andrew White - d. 3-16-1966
    Pioneer announcer, sportscaster and executive

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:59:23 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cincinnati Redux
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    In his recent indorsement of the Cincinnati Old Time Radio & Nostalgia
    Convention, OTR historian Jim Cox mentioned the laid-back intimate atmosphere
    of "Cincinnati.". I can further corroborate his sentiments. Re-creationist
    Rene'  Thompson likens it to an OTR "family reunion." The primary reason I
    attend "Cincinnati" is really not for the programmes or for the celebrities
    scheduled, but to hang out with the many friends I've acquired at this
    convention and via  this hobby throughout the years.

    Kudos to impresario Bob Burchett; emcee Robert Newman (Hope he's healthier
    this year); re-creation co-ordinator and director Don Ramlpw (along with his
    down-to-earth  wife [removed]"Oh, Don," "Oh, Mary" as Jack Benny might say);
    the sound effects team of Dave Davies, Jerry Williams, and Randy VanderBiecke;
    cameraman Charlie Summers (as well as the late Harold Zeigler); the musical
    genius of Edward Clute; Mike Martini, Jim Widner, Dan Riedstra, Ken Piletic,
    and all the ORCATS; the many dealers especially Martin Grams, Terry
    Salomonsen, Sonny Raley, Bob Burnham, Ted Davenport and Tom Monroe, Rodney
    Bowcock, Fred and Ellen Berney, Karen Lerner and the Radio Spirits team, and
    many others; the perennial hosts of after-hour parties such as Steve Hiss,
    Barbara and Dave Davies,  and Barbara and Jerry Williams;and my own circle of
    friends--who usually end up filling non-celeb roles in the re-creations--
    including the Hughes family (Dan, Kathy, and Karen), the Jansen siblings
    (Steve and Laura),  Steve and Rene' Thompson, Gary Yoggy (and sometimes the
    Boogie-Woogie Girls), Randy Story,  Meredith Grainger; Chuck Thompson, Rick
    Keating, and Linnell Herbert-Marshall;  and new fans to the hobby like Melanie
    Aultman and my sister Gweneth Newsomewho make having conventions like these
    all the more worthwhile. [I know I've probably omitted somebody very
    [removed] profoundest apologies in advance].

    Great re-creations and panels planned! Awards honouring early attendees such
    as Parley Baer, Ezra Stone and Willard Waterman, and re-creation pioneer Dave
    Warren! Ad hoc sidetrips to various OTR historical sites and nice
    reataurants!

    Unfortunarely, various events and forces in my life  will prevent me from
    attending convention #21 next month. IMHO, I'd be a natural for the proposed
    panel re: OTR research. I hope to be there in spirit.

    I encourage everybody who can wing it to come and have fun at this year's 21st
    annual Cincinnati Old Time Radio and Nostalgia Convention.

    Derek Tague
    "Mayor of Etherville"

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:22:32 -0400
    From: Chargous@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Radio Fidelity and mp3

    This topic has been discussed many, many times, but I completely agree with
    Ken - he's 100 pct. right.

    In theory, yes, a 32/22 mp3 can sound pretty good on OTR.  However, I've
    only heard less than 10 encodes on 32/22 that were good - to be kind, about
    [removed] percent of 32/22 encodes are acceptable (to be fair 75 percent of 64
    encodes are poorly done).  I do 80/44 myself.  [removed] is much more
    universal, easier to work with, and with today's storage, there's
    absolutely no need to cram 50,000 shows on one CD. There's no significant
    difference from 64, but it's more or less my signature.  I try to cater to
    the highest common denominator, always trying to get the best source
    possible.  I'm one of those people who, if I have a 3rd gen copy of a show
    I'll like, I'll upgrade to a 1st gen copy.

    Ken, what kind of phone lines would a small Mutual station have used?  Take
    the '52 ILAMs in circulation, for example - they're pretty tinny.  Would
    that have been a CCC?

    BTW, those AKG K-701 headphones I bought a month or so ago (world-class
    headphones) have really become so much better with breaking in.  OTR sounds
    great on them too!  Much recommended.

    									Travis

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    Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:15:54 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-17 births/deaths

    March 17th births

    03-17-1877 - Edwin M. Whitney - Parma Center, NY - d. 6-5-1957
    actor: Captain Jimmy Norton "Harbor Lights"; Judge Whipple "Real Folks"
    03-17-1879 - Sid Grauman - Indianapolis, IN - d. 3-5-1950
    theatre owner: Intermission Guest "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-17-1884 - Frank Buck - Gainesville, TX - d. 2-25-1950
    wild animal hunter: "Bring 'em Back Alive"
    03-17-1901 - Alfred Newman - New Haven, CT - d. 2-17-1970
    composer, conductor: "Hollywood Star Time"; "Radio Hall of Fame"
    03-17-1902 - Bobby Jones - d. 12-18-1971
    renowned golfer, did a 15 minute show on golf
    03-17-1902 - Jimmy Grier - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-4-1959
    orchestra leader: "Woodbury Soap Show"
    03-17-1905 - Lisa Sergio - Florence, Italy - d. 6-22-1989
    news and music commentator: "Let's Talk it Over"; "One Woman's Opinion"
    03-17-1906 - Michael O'Shea - Hartford, CT - d. 12-3-1973
    actor: "Textron Theatre"; "Radio Reader's Digest"; "Philip Morris
    Playhouse"
    03-17-1910 - Molly Weir - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 12-1-2004
    actor: Tattie McIntosh "It's That Man Again"; Aggie "Life with the
    Lyons"
    03-17-1910 - Pat McVey - Fort Wayne, IN - d. 7-6-1973
    actor: "Cavalcade of America"
    03-17-1915 - Joel Cranston - Iowa - d. 9-xx-1977
    actor: "Fort Laramie"; "Gunsmoke"; "Escape"; "Have Gun, Will Travel"
    03-17-1916 - Karl Weber - Columbus Junction, IA - d. 7-30-1990
    actor: Ray Matson "Dr. Six Gun"; Phil Stanley "When a Girl Marries"
    03-17-1918 - Bill Felton - Greenland, MI - d. 1-20-2005
    newscaster, disc jockey: "Valley Varieties"; "Recreation Room"
    03-17-1919 - Marx B. Loeb - d. 8-9-1991
    director: "Suspense"; "Romance"
    03-17-1919 - Nat "King" Cole - Montgomery, AL - d. 2-15-1965
    singer: "King Cole Trio Time"
    03-17-1922 - Irene Buri-Nelson - d. 7-7-2006
    host: WLIP Kenosha, Wisconsin "Around Town"
    03-17-1930 - Grover C. Mitchell - Whatley, AL - d. 8-6-2003
    trombonist: "Count Basie and His Orchestra"; "Bring Back the Bands"
    03-17-1946 - Budge Threlkeld - Pueblo, CO - d. 6-11-2005
    actor: "High Street"

    March 17th deaths

    01-01-1928 - Helen Westcott - Los Angeles, CA - d. 3-17-1998
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "My Wildest Dream"
    02-16-1904 - George F. Kennan - Milwaukee, WI - d. 3-17-2005
    post world war two diplomat: "Meet the Press"
    02-21-1880 - Frank Orth - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-17-1962
    actor: Inspector Faraday "Boston Blackie"
    03-02-1909 - Narvin Kimball - d. 3-17-2006
    vocal, banjo: (Preservation Hall Jazz Band) "Newport Jazz Festival"
    04-11-1902 - Quentin Reynolds - NYC - d. 3-17-1965
    author: "Britain Speaks"; "Quentin Reynolds"; "Keep 'Em Rolling"
    04-18-1941 - John J. Jackson - d. 3-17-2004
    rock-radio personality
    05-31-1894 - Fred Allen - Cambridge, MA - d. 3-17-1956
    comedian: "Linit Bath Club"; "Town Hall Tonight"; "Fred Allen Show"
    06-10-1910 - Charles O'Connor - Cambridge, MA - d. 3-17-1942
    announcer: "Johnny Presents"; "Breezing Along"
    07-24-1903 - Hazel Arth - d. 3-17-1991
    second place winner Atwater-Kent National Radio Auditions
    08-16-1862 - Amos Alonzo Stagg - West Orange, NY - d. 3-17-1965
    legendary football coach: "We the People"
    08-26-1905 - George F. Hicks - Tacoma, WA - d. 3-17-1965
    announcer: "Metropolitan Echoes"; "Death Valley Days"; "Seth Parker"
    09-28-1919 - Tom Harmon - Rensselar, IN - d. 3-17-1990
    sportscaster: "Here Comes Harmon"; "Jimmy Durante Show"
    10-10-1900 - Helen Hayes - Washington, [removed] - d. 3-17-1993
    actor: "New Penny"; "Electric Theatre"; "O'Neill Cycle"
    12-06-1903 - Hugh Farr - Llano, TX - d. 3-17-1980
    singer: (Sons of the Pioneers) "The Roy Rogers Show"

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:01:31 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This week in radio history 18-24  March

     From Those Were The Days --

    3/18

    1940 - Light of the World was first heard on NBC. The soap opera was
    unique in that it featured the Bible as the center of the story line.

    3/21

    1925 - The voice of Lowell Thomas was first heard on radio. Thomas was
    heard talking about "Man's first flight around the world," on KDKA in
    Pittsburgh, PA.

    3/22

    1948 - The Voice of Firestone was the first commercial radio program to
    be carried simultaneously on both AM and FM radio stations.

    3/23

    1940 - Truth or Consequences was first heard on radio. The Ralph
    Edwards-produced program was hosted by Mr. Edwards. The show was
    originally heard on only four CBS stations. Later, NBC picked up the
    show where it eventually became the most popular of all radio quiz shows.

    3/24

    1932 - Belle Baker hosted a radio variety show from a moving train ... a
    first for radio broadcasting. The program originated from a Baltimore
    and Ohio train that chugged its way around the New York area. The
    broadcast was heard on WABC in New York City.

    1935 - After a year as a local show from New York City, Major Bowes'
    Original Amateur Hour was heard on the entire NBC network. The show
    stayed on the air for 17 years. Later, Ted Mack took over for Bowes and
    made the move from radio to that other medium.

    Joe

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