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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 8


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 George Burns
	 Re: HAIR TODAY, GONE TOMORROW!; pinch rollers; DBX [removed]
	 Bloopers: Heebert, Harry and the Pipe
	 attention radio 4 watchers
	 www by email
	 SF68
	 Freberg as an OTR host

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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 96 08:49:45 EST
From: donnie@[removed] (Donald A. Tevault)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: George Burns
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> 
> That's not   
> to say that George has given up entirely.  He did schedule another smaller scale   
> appearance at a smaller venue closer to home. 

Where?

I don't remember.  I saw this in the news several weeks ago, but
didn't save it.
Donald A. Tevault
508 Elbow Lane
St. Marys, GA 31558-9651

"OS/2--where *I* want to go today."

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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:14:40 -0500
From: fisherf@[removed] (Francis Fisher)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: HAIR TODAY, GONE TOMORROW!; pinch rollers; DBX [removed]
Message-Id: <m0tYd3e-000YGVC@[removed]>

Subject: DBX FILTERS, Dolby, & HIGH BIASED TAPE
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[removed] Bray wrote:

>A couple of questions for the technically minded out there.  1.)Any advantage
>to mastering OTR on High biased tape as opposed to normal?  Does it minimize
>noise if you're making dups  with a high bias master down to  normal bias?
> In other words, is the sound better on a normal bias copy made with a high
>bias master, or a normal bias copy made from a normal bias master? Or is
>there a difference?

The test is, "Does the tape output sound just like the tape input?" (in like
modes of operation: high bias tape with high bias switch settings or regular
tape with normal tape settings). If you need to mismatch your controls for
the tape then you need to have a tek set up the machinery.

>2.) If you are duping using two tape decks,and your source tape is Dolby
>encoded, and you are playing the master with the Dolby on, but recording the
>dup with no Dolby, is the Dolby encoding traveling to the dup anyway? Or does
>the dup deck have to have the Dolby button on in order to encode?

Answer to 1st question is no. Answer to 2nd question is yes. HOWEVER. My
advise is to not decode the master if you want an encoded dub: when dubbing
encoded tape then leave it in that state so that anomolies picked up along
the way will also obtain the benefit of the original encoded tape when it is
later played back. So you would leave Dolby switches off (in your example)
for dubbing but you would turn the Dolby on when listening to the tape.

>3.) Do DBX single direction(?) filters make a noticable difference in
>filtering noise out of OTR dups?

Answer is yes but the amount of correction is left to you and your taste (if
you are using the same model that I use at work). "Tune" the effect so that
you do not hear hiss during periods of silence. Use the least amount of
effect possible. 

Francis



Subject: Re: HAIR TODAY, GONE TOMORROW!
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celtic@[removed] (Stuart Joseph) wrote:

>I worked as a copy boy in the newsroom of NBC (down the hall from the radio
>studios) in the mid-60's and we were visible to the touring public.
>....
>We were also required to always wear ties, though because we were part of
>the news room, we didn't have to wear jackets.
>Stuart
>who again has a beard, but not as much hair, but not for lack of trying.

Stuart, given the number of hours I spent working in 5C-Tape, I'm sure we
must have known one another. So, hello, again! Your post left me trying to
think of three other copy boys from that period. Each was black. Max stood
about 5'10-11 and had an interesting story: his dad was a diamond mine
operator in Liberia. Then there was Len(?) who got was quickly promoted to
reporter during the riots. I later remember seeing him as a commentator but
then he dropped from the scene. The third fellow was rather shy. He brought
me a couple reels of his tape collection of early rock and roll but I
couldn't dub the stuff because his was 1/4 track and our machines were full
track. This fellow's collection pre-dated all of the white rock that I'd
ever heard growing up in WV and was limited to the period of post-war to
early 50s and most of it came from Harlem. But rock it was and this guy was
trying to preserve it, doing what he could on a copy boy's salary.

Francis




Subject: pinch rollers
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Joel Senter wrote:

>Some folks say it's OK to use alcohol to clean rollers if you don't get
>them too wet.  Other folks say never to use alcohol on rollers.  If one
>doesn't use alcohol on rollers, what would be recommended for cleaning
>them?  Joel Senter

Use denatured alcohol to clean all of the tape path on any type of audio
tape recorder. (Don't use rubbing alcohol because it contains mineral oil.)
You can also use freon on the metal parts. Freon is what you never use on
rubber. (Freon is generally only used by the video folks for cleaning flying
heads.)

You can use denatured alcohol freely on pinch rollers. Be prepared to
replace pinch rollers and other rubber wheels and belts every few years. Be
careful to not drip alcohol on bearings. However, you clean the bearings
with alcohol if you re-oil them with a good grade of light weight electric
motor oil.

Francis
_______________________________________
Francis Fisher (fisherf@[removed])
Director of Engineering
WV Public Radio

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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 21:26:11 GMT
From: bilj@[removed] (Bill Jaker)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bloopers: Heebert, Harry and the Pipe
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

        And now kiddies it's time for the real story of Harry Von Zell and 
the great Hoobert Heever blooper.  Like most good stories it's been repeated 
so often that the real facts have been ruined.  In a TV interview some years 
ago Tom Snyder wangled the true version out of Von Zell.
        Harry wasn't introducting President Herbert C. Hoover.  He was 
hosting a program in honor of President Hoover's birthday (I don't know the 
year, but Hoover was born on August 10th). This was a gala hour filled with 
big stars and prominent politicians and as the program came to a finale Von 
Zell stepped to the mic and intoned something like, "and now let us all join 
in one voice, from coast to coast, to offer our warmest birthday wishes to 
the President of the United States, [removed]"
        Snyder asked him if it was "Heebert Hoover" or "Hoobert Heever".
        Von Zell replied that "It was nothing."  It just came out heehoohaha 
or some such totally tongue-tied syllables.  Very embarrassing, though Harry 
Von Zell did continue his career for longer than Hoover kept his job.
        In that same interview they told about what could have been the 
worst blooper of all time.  During an Easter Sunday broadcast in the mid 30s 
a CBS announcer leading in to a shortwaved pickup of Pope Pius XI 
celebrating Mass at St Peter's Basilica said, in intensely respectful tones, 
"we now take you to the holy city of Rome where the next voice you hear will 
be that of His Holiness Pipe [removed] uh, Pipp [removed] uhh, Pope [removed]"  
The announcer was so embarassed that he reportedly quit the radio business 
and left the country.
       

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Date: 06 Jan 1996 18:19 GMT
From: Henry Brugsch <@[removed]:henry@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Cc: 
Subject: attention radio 4 watchers
Message-ID: <01061996181953um@[removed]>

For everyone on here who has noticed the lack of hard science fiction on
Radio 4 recently, we may be coming out of the desert.
There was a fantastic trailer just now before the Friday 6:00 news.
A promise of more science oriented, and science fiction over a 6 week
period yet to come.
And the admonition to "Look at the stars, and let the light in"
The only thing that ruined that was the time slot, before 6 in the
morning, ant 7:20 after the Archers in the evening. Obviously an
astronomy spot. But this will be a good thing.

-----
   Henry Brugsch
   aka hbj elsewhere, CIS: [removed]@[removed], hbj@[removed]
Give me an alias long enough and I'll mail the world

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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 96 19:46:01 -0400
From: "DONALD L. TAYLOR" <lebaron@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: www by email
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I know this is not old time radio, but some time ago someone osted on this 
digest a way to get world wide web material by email. I used the procedure 
with the email address given (agora@[removed]) a few times and it worked 
well, but the last few times I got no response. Is this address only good 
for OTR digest material? And the response from this address said for help 
to send an email with www in body. I have tried this several times nd got 
no response. Thanks for letting me ask an unrelated question
May God bless you richly
Donald L. Taylor (Proverbs 3:5,6)
lebaron@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 96 20:45 EST
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: passage@[removed]
Subject: SF68
Message-Id: <m0tYkBK-000JrIC@[removed]>

>    List:
> 
>         Date      Num  Title                                 Src Key
>         --------  ---  ------------------------------------  ---------
>                     1                                        
>                     2  The Answer                            1
>                     3  The Cage                              12   6
>                     4  The Castaway                          1    6
>                     5  The Death Dust                        1    6
>                     6  Homecoming                            1 3   7
>                     7  Jenny With Wings                      1
>                     8                                        
>                     9  The New Wine                          1    6
>                    10  
>                    11  Quest                                 1     7
>                    12  Routine Excercise                     1   5
>                    13  
>                    14  
>                    15  Wanted in Surgery                     1 3
>                    16  Watchbird                             1    6
>                    17  The Will                              1    6
>                    18  
>                    
>                    ??  A Sound Of Thunder                    1 34  7
>                    ??  The Signals                           1
>                    ??  Grenville's Planet                     2
>                    ??  The Space Cow                          23
>                    ??  Last Rites                               4
> 
>

Here are the missing programs from this series:

1. Andover and the Android - story by Kate Wilhelm
8. Last Rites - story by Charles Beaumont (Twilight Zone fame)
10. The Noon's Repose - story by John Christopher
13. A Sound of Thunder - story by Ray Bradbury
14. Space Cow - story by William Morrison (original story title is Country
Doctor)
18. Grenville's Planet - story by Michael Shaara

Keep in mind that this list is in alphabetical order. I know that Death Dust
was the 
premier episode and Grenville's Planet was the final show.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 21:45:28 -0800
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Freberg as an OTR host
Message-ID: <960106214528_21848229@[removed]>

Cliff N made a comment that he thought Stan Freberg as When Radio Was host
was super.   I don't want to stir up trouble (and at the risk of doing just
that), sorry to say I can't agree.

Let me first say I LOVE Freberg's work on his OWN shows (such as the sadly
short run of the Stan Freberg Show), however, as a host of a vintage radio
show, he sounds a little too scripted and stiff in my opinion.

Admitedly, I have not heard too many [removed] shows, but I did hear the When
Radio Was Compact Disk demo sent around to radio stations a few months back,
and was quite disappointed.

A good radio host should sound conversational, spontaneous, off-the-cuff and
human.  He or she should sound like they are talking to the listener on a
personal basis.  They should NOT sound contrived, phoney or corney.    They
should NOT sound like they are reading a script.  Even GOOD modern radio
commercials should have this quality (and major market / network commercials
DO). 
I was Production Manager at one of the stations around here for several years
and worked with some of the best (and a few of the worst!) in the business.

Freberg may have improved and I may not have heard a good enough
representative sample, but from what I HAVE heard, he doesn't seem to have
that personal, down-home approach.

The attitude of "Hey, I'm on the radio, and you should listen to me" with
that insincere-sounding, over-hyped voice that was popular with rock stations
in the 1960's-'70's just doesn't cut it in this era.  I KNOW this is NOT what
Stan sounds like, but the point is if you can't relate the the guy talking on
the radio on a PERSONAL level, it doesn't [removed] at least doesn't work as
well.

If [removed] is a good show, I don't think it's necessarily because of the
[removed]  It's the CONTENT.   Their scripts and background info are quite
good, and of course, who's going to argue about the actual shows themselves!

([removed] if this message gets to you, it's just constructive criticism, don't
take it personally).
-Bob B

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