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Date: 11/9/2006 6:24 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 310
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Say Goodnight, Georgie                [ Gregg Oppenheimer <gopp@[removed]; ]
      Poets on OTR                          [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      "Say Goodnight Gracie"                [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      newspapers                            [ "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
      Louisa                                [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Re: Newspapers referred to in Old Ti  [ "Larry Siskind" <lasisk@[removed] ]
      Creaking Door Copyright vs. Trademar  [ "Dale Clark" <wclark4121@[removed] ]
      Stroke of Fate and its history        [ jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed]; ]
      Re: Newspapers                        [ "Joe Mackey" <joemackey108@adelphia ]

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:47:18 -0500
    From: Gregg Oppenheimer <gopp@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Say Goodnight, Georgie

    The last names of the pair of Republican Senators who have yet to
    concede defeat in Tuesday's election didn't hit me until I read this
    line in the [removed] Times this morning:

    "Republican leadership aides privately acknowledge that their Senate
    majority was gone, but they declined to say it on the record in
    deference to Burns and Allen."

    - Gregg Oppenheimer
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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:53:29 -0500
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Poets on OTR
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           Poets on OTR?  The only poet I can think of offhand was a character
    from
    the Allen's Alley portion of "The Fred Allen Show" named Falstaff Openshaw,
    sort of a pseudo Shakespearean type.  Another character which springs to mind
    was from "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge" named Ishkabibble.
    Although he was more of a moronic rhymester than a poet.

            I've heard of several poets who made appearances on various OTR
    programs.
    Some of these include Ogden Nash, Dorothy Parker, and (I've been told)
    Gertrude
    Stein.  There were probably many others.  They usually had appearances on
    one game/quiz show or another.

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:02:54 -0500
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Say Goodnight Gracie"
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           I've heard this repeated more times than I care to remember.  I have
    some recordings of "The Burns and Allen Show" sponsored by Hines (sp?)
    Honey and Almond Cream and at the end of each program George Burns
    would say 'Say Goodnight Gracie'  and she would simply reply 'Goodnight'.
    I'd be willing to bet that this is among the most misquoted OTR references
    out there.

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:18:05 -0500
    From: "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  newspapers

    <That's as far as my mind went.  I could not remember the name of
    show  I can remember listening to shows from the Cleveland
    Plain-Dealer, the St. Louis Post Distpatch, the Louisville
    Courier (now called the Courier-Journal) and many more.  But not
    the actual name of the [removed];

    Could it be, Ted, you're thinking of "The Big Story," sponsored
    by Pall Mall Cigarettes ...  "Outstanding ... and they are
    mild!"?

    I once did a paper on The Big Story while in college ... one of
    the shows dealt with a reporter at the Lubbock (Texas)
    Avalanche-Journal who demonstrated it was possible for a certain
    criminal to beat a lie detector test. It became apparent as I did
    research into that and other tales that the show's writers took
    quite a few liberties with the actual "big story."

    Bob Cockrum

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:36:55 -0500
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Louisa

    Would anyone know if a series by the title "Louisa" starring Edmund Gwynn
    and Spring Byington ever got beyond the audition tape made or aired  March
    23, 1951 (according to Hickerson)?  Both Schwartz-Reinehr and Terrace hint
    that it was an NBC comedy feature in 1950-51.  I've not been able to
    corroborate that elsewhere, including Summers' radio logs and the other
    usual respected sources, making me skeptical about it having run as a
    series.  Perhaps the extant episode was never broadcast at all.  Does anyone
    know?  Thanks for any help directly to me.

    Jim Cox
    otrbuff@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:43:48 -0500
    From: "Larry Siskind" <lasisk@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Newspapers referred to in Old Time Radio

    Ted asked in Digest #309 what old time radio show mentioned the
    names of  real newspapers. The answer is probably  "THE BIG
    STORY".  This show dramatized tales of newspaper reporters who
    won prizes for their journalistic writings.  It aired from 1947
    to 1955 and was sponsored by Pall Mall cigarettes. I remember
    listening to it  when I was a kid, impressed by the fact that the
    exciting stories were all true.
              Larry Siskind

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:44:02 -0500
    From: "Dale Clark" <wclark4121@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Creaking Door Copyright vs. Trademark

    Martin Grams, Jr. commented:

>     It may have been trademarked as well - I did not check into the

    trademark.

>     But the sound of the creaking door, as I described in a previous post,

    was

>     copyrighted.  I took a trip by train to [removed] and in the copyright

    office to

>     verify this registered copyright and got my proof with ease.

    I humbly stand corrected. This is the last time I trust Cecil Adams and
    "The Straight Dope" as a source of information.

    You know you're an OTR Fan when you mention in a group conversation the
    name Charlie McCarthy and everyone replies "Who?"

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:12:49 -0500
    From: jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Stroke of Fate and its history

    November 9, 2006

    Dear Old Time Radio Digest readers:

    In the last two weeks, I have had the chance to hear
    the complete run of the NBC Radio Network program
    Stroke of Fate.  The premise behind the program was a
    fascinating one reverse history.  This program only
    ran for 13 broadcast in the fall of 1953.
    Did this program get any critical reviews at the Time?
     I would be most interested in how readers of the
    Digest felt about this program and why it had such a
    short run, the program could have ran for at least one
    season.

    Many Thanks

    Jim Taylor

    bettylouson@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:12:58 -0500
    From: "Joe Mackey" <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: "otrd" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Newspapers

      Ted asked --

      > I learned the names of newspapers as a kid from a radio show that each
    week would broadcast a story from newspapers around the nation.

      That would most likely be "The Big Story", on NBC from 1947-55 where
    various murders and other crimes were solved or resolved (innocent person
    who was convicted is freed and the guilty brought to justice, even years
    later), thanks to the tireless work of a reporter who was featured that week
    and who received an award from the sponsor (Philip Morris) for their work.
    The reporter and their paper were part of the story (John Brown of the Sun).
      Joe

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