Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #270
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Date: 7/16/2002 3:03 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 270
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Bob Bailey                            [ Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed] ]
      Re: Petri, [removed]                  [ Ga6string@[removed] ]
      Lum And Abner 16" Transcriptions (re  [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
      A&C 11-4-43 Show                      [ gad4@[removed] ]
      Jerry of the Circus                   [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed] ]
      Orange Juice Stands                   [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Oranges by th e Road                  [ zbob@[removed] ]
      Sleep No More                         [ "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@hotmai ]
      Roy Rowan                             [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Road To Perdition - Lone Ranger       [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      News from CBS Radio                   [ bourdase@[removed] (Mike Paraniuk) ]
      FDR and OTR (Was: I would like to po  [ Petersenharris2@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      The worst is yet to [removed]           [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
      Comuters in the Early Days            [ ArtsMilitaria@[removed] (Arthur Fun ]

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    Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:47:21 -0400
    From: Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bob Bailey

    Mike Ray has inquired about Bob Bailey.

    Some time ago, someone else on the Digest made the same inquiry of me and I
    respectfully declined to answer because Bob was a personal friend and I felt
    it wasn't my place to divulge a lot of things about his personal life that
    were in many ways quite tragic. I still feel the same way.

    Bob was a stylish , very professional  actor whose voice fit perfectly into
    the two characters by which he is best known. He was also an excellent
    writer. He was  easy to work with and very relaxed in character.

    Harry Bartell

    [removed] In writing earlier about Lineup I forgot to mention that it was the CBS
    answer to Dragnet

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    Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:46:26 -0400
    From: Ga6string@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Petri, [removed]

    Mike Ray writes:

>     I was wondering if Harry [Bartell] would take a moment to express his
>     thoughts about Bob Bailey. Since you worked with him on Let George do it,
>     and
>     Johnny Dollar, it would interesting to see your thoughts on Mr. Bailey as a
>     performer, and as an individual

    Me, too. I'd also like to know how Mr. Bartell felt about OTR advertisements,
    many of which are read by the actors as first-person endorsements. My
    question results from having listened to a couple of episodes of "The
    Casebook of Gregory Hood" this weekend, in which Mr. Bartell extolls the
    virtues of Petri Muscatel, which reputedly was delicious when poured over
    canned peaches and served frozen. (Sounds good to me!)
    Sincerely,
    Bryan Powell

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    Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:59:54 -0400
    From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lum And Abner 16" Transcriptions (re-wroed
     for list friendly)

    Greetings! I plan on offering a few of my Lum And Abner Keystone
    Transcriptions for sale, but before I do I wanted to give any interested
    parties here
    first chance. These particular shows (episodes 601 thru 646) are from the
    1944 season, all in mint condition, no scratches, or blemishes at all. The
    sound is excellent. If you interested, drop me a line.
    Thanks
    Shawn

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    Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:16:26 -0400
    From: gad4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A&C 11-4-43 Show

    A several months ago, I heard Chris Costello (Lou's youngest daughter) give
    a lecture on her father. In that, I *think* she used an exert from the
    ending of the broadcast (where the announcement is made). I'm not sure
    though. If she does have it, I doubt very likely she would give it up.  She
    did have some wonderful home footage of Lou Costello which showed a
    different side to him.  When I asked her about releasing this material as a
    tribute, she said that there are certain things she'd like to keep in the
    family.

    Another possiblity would be to approach the major abbott and costello fan
    clubs to see what info they can provide on this episode.

    Again, wheather it's something I would like to actually listen to, Im not
    sure.  While it would be good to have for completion's sake, it wouldn't
    give me pleasure to listen to Lou in pain like that (assuming it's very
    visible).

    George

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:22:28 -0400
    From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jerry of the Circus

    I saw the Great Circus Parade in Milwaukee yesterday and as we watched I
    reminded the kids that we have a number of episodes of an OTR show called
    "Jerry of the Circus." I believe the show was first broadcast around 1940.
    It follows the exploits of a young boy who runs off with the circus, a
    continuing juvenile drama, fifteen minutes per episode. When I listen to it
    I am reminded of The Cinnamon Bear; I think many of the voices are the same.
    Does anyone have any information on this show? It is not listed in the usual
    OTR reference books.

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:22:48 -0400
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Orange Juice Stands

    Dennis Crow wondered if his mind was playing tricks on him when he
    remembered the orange shaped orange juice stands that used to dot the
    California highways.
    No indeed his mind is just fine. Those stands that served ice cold fresh
    squeezed juice are pretty much gone now,  tho I did see one (not orange
    shaped) just a couple of years ago, but I'll be darned if I can remember
    where it was. Oh yeah! the light bulb just went off.  It was on old
    highway 99 still very heavily traveled. It is not a freeway but is a
    limited access highway and there are still alot of places where you can
    pull over to the side of the road to buy fresh fruits and vegetables and
    some places where they serve juices and different kinds of drinks as in
    the old days.

    One of the best highways for this sort of thing was route 66. It still
    exists thru much of California, but all the fun stuff is gone now
    replaced by traffic jams at least until you get out into the desert.
    There is however one of those orange shaped and colored stands that has
    been preserved by the Route 66 Association here in California. Its in
    either Fontana or Cucamonga (attn: Jack Benny Fans), whoops that is now
    "Rancho Cucamonga", the Rancho being added to try to give some class to
    the place. It didn't work! Anyway the stand was moved from its original
    location to the south side of the highway where Walmart agreed to give
    up a little spot of their property to save this bit of history. It is
    fenced off to prevent vandalism,  but is opened on special occasions as
    for Route 66 Association tours etc. They have served OJ there but it
    probably is frozen juice from Florida!!!
    I live in Glendora and the name of the main drag, Alosta Ave, was just
    changed to Route 66. It is of course old route 66 but the actual name of
    the highway changed from town to town as you traveled west on the
    highway that is the best!( I couldn't help myself !). Glendora is now
    trying to bring back some of the glory of the old road,  but as part of
    that plan they are going to tear down some of the very buildings that
    were part of the era, including a building that was used to sell oranges
    and orange juice. But I guess that's called progress.

    George Aust

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:22:59 -0400
    From: zbob@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Oranges by th e Road

    In a positive response to Dennis Crow, the is one
    orange drive-in located in San Jose, CA. about a mile
    East of Highway 101 on Alum Rock Ave.  It is called
    Marks's Hot Dog Stand, and is currently in danger of
    permanent removal. There is a plan to move it, but
    there is the usual waffling as to [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:23:16 -0400
    From: "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sleep No More

    Hi, I was wondering if anyone else remembers this show.  If memory serves it
    was on NBC. I not sure if it was on every week but probably ran around 1957
    & featured Nelson Olmstead reading horror stories. I do recall I always
    listened to this show with the lights [removed] stories really stayed with
    me "The Snake" & "The Bet". Seems like Nelson Olmstead usually read two
    stories each week.  Was this a regular series and how long was it on the
    air? It was very good at any rate. John

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:24:14 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Roy Rowan

    Irene Heinstein says about Roy Rowan:

>     In a short check on the internet, looking for more info about him, I found
>     that he was also an announcer for 'The Adventures of Philip Marlowe' ...

    Rowan was an announcer in the CBS west coast (Los Angeles) stable for many
    years, first on radio, then on television. There are numerous CBS radio
    shows for which he announced, most of which are listed in Dunning's
    Encyclopedia. On television, I know he announced for Falcon Crest in the
    mid-80's, as well as a number of game shows from the fifties and sixties
    including "Earn Your Vacation" which was hosted by a very young Johnny Carson.

    He can be seen in an episode of "The Land of the Giants" from 1968 as well
    as the "announcer" in an episode of I Love Lucy in 1951.

    I don't know if Rowan has died (though I have date for someone who might be
    him as 1998), but he was at a SPERDVAC Convention in 1992 (perhaps Barb
    Watkins can shed some light on this).

    I too was always enamored of his smooth voice on Johnny Dollar during the
    Bob Bailey years.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:24:19 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Road To Perdition - Lone Ranger

    Jim K wonders if there was an error in the film "Road To Perdition" in its
    use of  the Lone Ranger.

    Yes, this was definitely a badly researched error, or one in which they
    didn't care. What the young boy is reading is a Big Little Book of the Lone
    Ranger which began first on radio in 1933 (this was the first place it
    appeared - even Fran Striker's books didn't get published until 1939).

    I believe the Big Little Books of the Lone Ranger weren't published until
    the sixties, though that seems odd to me.

    The film takes place in 1931.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:27:14 -0400
    From: bourdase@[removed] (Mike Paraniuk)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  News from CBS Radio

    Hello Jim, Evan, and List. In response to Evan who asked for the CBS
    affil in Atlanta, it is WALR Talk 1340. In response to Jim Cox who asked
    about CBS in Louisville as well as how CBS compensates affils, I
    received this answer today from CBS/Westwood. The CBS contract with
    Clear Channel ended 5/15. CC decided to dump CBS for ABC on WKJK 1080.
    CBS is searching diligently for a new station.  I don't know the reason
    for this switch, but I do know one basic bias that CC has in regards to
    affiliating thier 1,200 stations: they ALWAYS prefer ABC. It goes way
    back to the man who now runs CC Radio - Randy Michaels. When Randy ran
    Jacor (now owned by CC) which is based in Covington, KY ( right across
    the river from Cincinnati), he purchased the *Big One* WLW. The first
    thing Randy did was to dump NBC after 50 years affiliation to go with
    ABC. I have heard that he considered NBC and CBS News to be old and
    stogy whereas ABC News was more hip - feature stories and the like. Also
    CBS has an exclusivity clause - only one CBS affil per market. ABC does
    not require this. In Cincinnati alone we have three ABC stations - WLW,
    WSAI, WDBZ. In the cities where CC rules, they put ABC on their most
    powerful stations such as WTAM Cleveland, WLW Cincinnati, WHAS
    Louisville.  CBS gets the crumbs. Fortunately, CBS owns some big
    powerhouse stations in major cities, but not as many as CC.  I do not
    think CBS compensation is the problem. In fact, though CBS does not make
    it their policy to talk openly about how they pay their affils, the
    belief that they are making all CBS affils pay for programming brought a
    reply of "incorrect" from the network, but no further elaboration. Jim,
    I will do more checking on what CBS is doing to get an affil in
    Louisville and get back in touch with you. Pickings are slim - CC must
    own all the important stations there. Jim, send my regards to Jeff for
    me :>). [removed] Mike

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    The sufferings in the world are compensated. Do not be [removed] is
    one who watches over [removed] LUGOSI

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:21:58 -0400
    From: Petersenharris2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FDR and OTR (Was: I would like to post a
     question)

    I am a researcher for a documentary being made for the White House Historical
    Association on "A Hundred Years of the West Wing."  In the Franklin Delano
    Roosevelt section of this hour long film, there will be a focus on the
    President and the media.  BUT ... for the focus to be complete, we need OTR
    comedians, and their jokes on or related to the President.

    Any samples we could use?  Think about it this way: You'd be doing your
    country a [removed]

    OTR comedians and their jokes concerning FDR.

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:22:07 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1934 - The NBC Red network premiered the musical drama, Dreams Come
    True. It was a show about baritone singer Barry McKinley and his
    novelist sweetheart.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:22:27 -0400
    From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The worst is yet to [removed]

    Hi Gang!

       All right, now that TV Guide has published an issue of the  "50 Worst TV
    Shows," it's probably inevitable that a discussion will ensue about the "Worst
    OTR Shows" of all-time.
       My vote goes to "The Jack Webb Show," [removed], his short-lived pre-Dragnet
    variety programme. BTW, I really don't think "Honest Harold,"
    Hal Peary's watered-down (no pun intended) "Gildersleeve"-Redux was all
    that bad.

    Yours in the ether,

    Derek Tague.

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    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:23:07 -0400
    From: ArtsMilitaria@[removed] (Arthur Funk)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Comuters in the Early Days

    Mike Biel wondered if they were using computers in 1988.  That got my
    grey matter perculating and reminded me of something.  In the mid-1950s
    a staffer gave me a one-on-one tour of WGBS which was the CBS affiliate
    in Miami at the time.  They were primarily a live AM station but they
    had a "transcribed" FM operation as well.  I was taken into a small
    room, perhaps 100 square feet and shown what looked to me like a
    humongous reel-to-reel tape recorder.  It was as tall as I (maybe 5'5"
    then) and perhaps just as wide with all kinds of dials and gauges on the
    front of it.  My tour guide explained that this was where their FM
    programming originated.  All the announcements were recorded in advance
    and integrated into the music on the big tape reels.  He said that this
    gizmo had an internal battery operated clock which permitted it to
    "fast-forward" itself to begin broadcasting at the correct place in time
    when power was restored.  Reflecting on it this sounds to me like a
    primitive "computerized" set up.  I wonder if any of our broadcast
    production list members can comment on this hazy recollection.

    Art Funk

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