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>                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
>                                  Volume 2001 : Issue 387
>                             A Part of the [removed]!
>                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

>                                     Today's Topics:

>      dragnet lost episodes list.           [ That Guy in LynnwOOd <thatguy77@yah ]
>      Re: Fibber's Christmas                [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
>      Amos & Andy Guest Appearances         [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
>      SUSPENSE WITH HOWARD CULVER           [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
>      FAVORITE RADIO ACTORS                 [ TIZ EYE!! <cien@[removed]; ]
>      Re: More Big Jon and Sparkie          [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
>      Re: Printing labels                   [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
>      Christmas shows                       [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
>      Re: MP3 players                       [ Ga6string@[removed] ]
>      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ lois@[removed] ]
>      CHRISTMAS SHOWS                       [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
>      Christmas shows                       [ "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet. ]
>      Favorite OTR Actors/Actresses         [ badaxley@[removed] ]
>      Teddy Roosevelt, etc.                 [ Tom van der Voort <evan@[removed]; ]
>      Favorite Radio Actors/ress            [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
>      MyCat OTR database.                   [ Althofft@[removed] ]

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>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:51:11 -0500
>     From: That Guy in LynnwOOd <thatguy77@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: dragnet lost episodes list.

>     I had a list, but I lost it.

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:23:12 -0500
>     From: Grbmd@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: Re: Fibber's Christmas

>     In a message dated 12/4/01 5:04:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, Scott writes:

> >      I usually start out with Fibber McGee and Molly's
> >      12/23/47 Christmas show when McGee has lost his key ring.

>     .............................

> >      I love the
> >      ending when Molly (as Teeny) does the annual "Twas The Night Before
> >      Christmas" musical with Billy Mills and The Kingsmen.

>     ..................

> >      Was this ever released as a record?

>     When I was a kid I had a 78-rpm album -- probably four records -- of Fibber's
>     Christmas show that ended with Molly's "Night [removed]" musical story.  I
>     can't remember the plot of the show that preceded that ending, but I think it
>     had Fibber telling a story, maybe a fable, to Teeny.  It might have involved
>     a tailor (?) who lost something or couldn't find something, but I wouldn't
>     bet the farm on it.  Does this show or this album ring a bell with anyone
>     else on the Digest?

>     Spence

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:23:52 -0500
>     From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: Amos & Andy Guest Appearances

>     Joe Salerno wonders:

> >     Do I recall a list of appearances that Amos & Andy made on other shows that
> >     might have been posted here once?

>     Funny you should mention this, Joe. The First Generation Radio Archives has
>     just issued our CD Round Robin #17, containing many rare and unusual "Amos
>     'n' Andy" broadcasts - some complete, some excerpted - that were originally
>     transferred from disks many years ago at the request of Charles Correll and
>     are now made available to our members and volunteers.

>     Specifically:

>     Two extremely early episodes from the first series, originally distributed
>     via syndication on 78 RPM disks. Since each individual station performed
>     the music and introductions for these programs live, these recordings
>     contain only the content of the shows themselves, performed solely by
>     Gosden and Correll. Each episode runs approximately eight minutes.

>     Amos 'n' Andy  Tuesday, July 2, 1929
>     Amos 'n' Andy  Friday, July 5, 1929

>     Next, a very unusual recording: A never-broadcast tribute to Gosden and
>     Correll, recorded by their friends on the eve of their change to the CBS
>     radio network, in celebration of their many years on NBC. This 12-minute
>     program was presented as a parody of the long-running "March of Time" program.

>     Amos 'n' Andy   Friday, March 31, 1939 March Of Time Gag Show NBC

>     Here's something "new" in old time radio: an uncirculated Christmas Eve
>     episode from 1942. The commercials were removed from the original transfer
>     of this CBS broadcast at the request of Mr. Correll, so the running time is
>     just under 14 minutes:

>     Amos 'n' Andy  Thursday, December 24, 1942 Christmas Eve Show

>     And yet another rarity: "The Mystic Knights of the Sea Friday Night
>     Minstrel Show," a short-lived attempt by NBC to broaden the horizons of
>     "Amos 'n' Andy" and bring them into a semi-variety format. Only two of
>     these programs are known to exist and here's one of them, sponsored by
>     Pepsodent and benefiting the Harlem Community Fund.

>     The Mystic Knights of the Sea Friday Night Minstrel Show  November 4, 1936
>     (#901) (15:30) NBC - broadcast 10:15 to 10:30 PM

>     When Mr. Correll had his disk collection transferred, he was interested
>     only the segments featuring himself and Mr. Godsen. Thus, we have only
>     excerpts from various programs that featured "Amos 'n' Andy" guest
>     appearances, most of which we have included in this set. We've also added
>     one episode from their 1943 series that - alas - seems only to exist in a
>     partial form, possibly due to the wartime use of glass-based disks.

>     Amos 'n' Andy  Friday, October 29, 1943
>     "Chair" (Part 2 only) with guest Franklin  Pangborn - NBC

>     The Bob Hope Show, with guest host Eddie Cantor
>     Tuesday, November 18, 1947  Excerpt (3:59) NBC

>     Command Performance, recorded Thursday, November 23, 1944 Excerpt (12:30)
>     Armed Forces Radio Service, never broadcast commercially

>     Front And Center  Sunday, September 21, 1947 Excerpt (11:41) NBC
>     Uncirculated - a summer replacement show for Fred Allen, sponsored by
>     Tenderleaf Tea

>     (Go to the Archives home page at [removed] and follow
>     the links to the CD Libraries page to view the complete Round Robin
>     listings, including other "Amos 'n' Andy" programs taken from Mr. Correll's
>     disks.)

>     Speaking of rarity, here's some exciting news for fans of the residents of
>     the Small House Half-Way Up in the Next Block: Round Robin #17 also
>     contains an uncirculated episode of "Vic and Sade" starring Art Van Harvey
>     and Bernadine Flynn, taken from an original
>     16" NBC Orthacoustic disk, complete with Crisco commercials.

>     Vic And Sade February 16, 1941 Homer U. McDancy (#3449) (15:00) NBC

>     It's never been easier - or more affordable - to hear these and many other
>     classic radio shows from the Archives collection - most transferred from
>     original 16" disks and digitally restored for outstanding sound quality.
>     Our libraries offer over 1000 CDs, available for loan at the low price of
>     only $[removed] each. And our Round Robin CD collections - seventeen of them so
>     far, each containing at least 20 hours of great sounding classic radio
>     entertainment - are offered at the same low rental price: 20 CDs for only
>     $[removed]

>     If you're looking for the perfect Christmas gift for yourself or your
>     favorite OTR enthusiast, an Archives membership is the perfect choice: for
>     only $[removed], you gain access to thousands of old time radio shows on audio
>     compact discs - and, when you join, we even send you coupons good for eight
>     free rentals from our libraries - an $[removed] value.

>     If you'd like a free subscription to our monthly e-mail newsletter,
>     announcing new shows and new Round Robin collections as they are released
>     and also regularly offering a variety of original transcription disks for
>     sale, send your name and mailing address in an e-mail to
>     newsletter@[removed]. We'll send you a copy of our December issue
>     right away.

>     Happy Holidays!

>     Harlan

>     Harlan Zinck, Preservation Manager
>     First Generation Radio Archives
>     [removed]

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:39:37 -0500
>     From: PURKASZ@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: SUSPENSE WITH HOWARD CULVER

>        I seem to have found an incomplete episode of Suspense called "The
>     Search" and a log I looked up says Howard Culver is in it.
>        Is this the same man whose widow writes in to this publication from time
>     to time?
>        I believe she also hosts an on-line chat as well.
>        If so, could I presume upon her kindness to inquire whether or not the
>     entire episode of that show is available?
>        I would ask anybody who may know also.
>        This seems a fine way to complete this episode if possible.
>        Many thanks from one radio maniac to many others!!
>                     <A HREF="[removed],+Michael+C.">Michael
>     C. Gwynne</A>

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:45:30 -0500
>     From: TIZ EYE!! <cien@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: FAVORITE RADIO ACTORS

>     since we are on the subject of favorite radio actors how about
>     elliott lewis
>     cathy lewis
>     jeanette nolan
>     and the best, without a doubt, first person narrator in radio
>     frank lovejoy

>     --
>     [removed]

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:39:02 -0500
>     From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
>     To: <[removed]@[removed];
>     Subject: Re: More Big Jon and Sparkie

>     Hello again --
>     Ted Kneebone recently conjectured:
>     I suppose that Sparkie was Big Jon's voice recorded at one speed, then
>     played
>     back at a slightly higher speed?  Wonder if the whole program was taped or
>     only Sparkie's [removed]

>     My experience recording this program off the air on an early tape recorder,
>     c. 1953, was that Big Jon supplied the voice of Sparkie but recorded at HALF
>     the speed it would be played over the air. Remember that most open reel tape
>     recorders throughout the fifties, sixties and seventies were capable of
>     playing 3 3/4, 7 1/2, and/or 15 ips -- each a speed double that of the
>     previous speed. Big Jon was lucky enough to have a fairly low speaking voice
>     which, when speeded up, at least didn't take Sparkie's voice up to the
>     stratosphere! It must have taken infinite patience for Jon and a lot of
>     dramatic ability to slow his speech down to such a crawl and still preserve
>     the kinds of vocal inflections needed for Sparkie to ask a question, state a
>     fact, reply to a question Big Jon had asked, etc.
>     Perhaps the whole program was taped as on-air checks, but it certainly had a
>     live presence when broadcast, and there were so many occasions when Big Jon
>     would have to wait three or four seconds after speaking for a reply from
>     Sparkie, or Sparkie would interrupt Big Jon before he had finished HIS
>     statement, that I have no doubt but that while recording "Sparkie's voice"
>     Big Jon tried to estimate the amount of silence he needed to leave between
>     Sparkie's utterances to accommodate where his own voice would be inserted,
>     and he didn't always estimate correctly!  [I often wondered where Big Jon
>     got the very latest children's records for his show -- were they sent as
>     promos from the record company marketing people, or did Big Jon haunt the
>     children's section of the record stores?]
>     Anyway, Alvin and the other Chipmunks' recordings were done with the same
>     technique, and I was surprised that they became so popular --- because by
>     the time of their success Sparkie had been on the air for many years already
>     and his voice was "old news" to me.

>     Jan Bach

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:39:27 -0500
>     From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: Re: Printing labels

>     As long as we are talking about database for cataloging, what about printing.

>     I wrote a basic program that will print dot matrix labels (pin feed).
>     However, I've rather use a laser printer and was wondering if there is
>     anything out there that will let you put all the information into some kind
>     of database and then just enter the tape numbers and it prints out the labels.

>     The program I wrote does exactly that, but I can't figure out a way to
>     modify it for a laser printer.

>     The way my program works it to store all the information into DATA
>     statements. One of the statements is the label number. Then when you run
>     the program, you just enter a number and it prints the label. You can
>     specify which sides and how many labels.

>     It is a neat little program, but it only works in basic and with pin feed
>     labels. It would be handy to find a similar program that printed laser labels.

>     Right now we are using a Word Processor, but that requires a few more steps.

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:39:37 -0500
>     From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
>     To: <[removed]@[removed];
>     Subject: Christmas shows

>     The first time that Fibber McGee and Molley had the Was The Night Before
>     Christmas show was in 1942.  I have not been able to find a copy of this one
>     and yes the song was put on record.  I believe the one hour Screen Director
>     playhouse of Miracle on 34th Street is my favorite variation of this show.
>     My top two Christmas shows are 1 the Great Gildersleives show of 12-22-48
>     where the Baby is given back to her father.  2. the Doris Day show of
>     12-23-53, Doris does a grate job on Silent Night.  I also love the Lux Radio
>     Theater of It,s A Wonderful Life of 3-10-47.  I had Karolyn Grimes on the
>     YUSA earlier and she has many wonderful memories about the movie, and it is
>     amazing how that movie has help her survive personal losts.  Marry
>     Christmas,

>     Walden   .

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 23:49:28 -0500
>     From: Ga6string@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: Re: MP3 players

>     As y'all probably know, I've been a regular pest asking questions about MP3
>     players. Just wanted to let you know that I finally took the plunge,
>     purchasing a Rio Volt Jr, also known as the SP90, and the Phillips Expanium
>     boom box that someone mentioned recently.

>     Both of them have played every OTR MP3 CD that I've tried in them. The Rio
>     Volt is more versatile, with the ID tags and line out, while the Phillips
>     leaves you guessing as to the program name.

>     As for the Rio [removed] it's the low-end model but seems to work great.
>     Several of you have mentioned the upgrade/update from the Web site. What does
>     it enable you to do that you couldn't do w/o the upgrade? Mine seems to play
>     fine (BTW, it reads "Version [removed]" when you turn it on).

>     As for the Phillips, there are a couple of things about it that seem really
>     silly. First of all, I don't think it has a headphone jack, or line out (wow!
>     how much could that have cost them?), and then there are the limitations of
>     the display, and the sound doesn't seem to be as good I'd have hoped. I got
>     the model with the remote, which is actually VERY useful, given the toggle
>     switch which the box offers to search for programs.

>     Thanks to everyone who gave me input, on and off list.

>     Next on my list: A DVD player that will play MP3 CDs, one that I can make
>     part of my stereo system. Any suggestions?

>     Thanks again,
>     Bryan

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 04:52:01 -0500
>     From: lois@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

>     A weekly [removed]

>     For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
>     Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
>     and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
>     over four years, same time, same channel!

>     Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
>     Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
>     Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
>     "Archie Andrews;" owners of some of the best OTR sites on the Web;
>     maintainer of the best-known OTR Digest (we all know who he is)..........

>     and Me

>     Lois Culver
>     KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
>     KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
>     and widow of actor Howard Culver

>     (For more info, contact lois@[removed])

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:26:30 -0500
>     From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: CHRISTMAS SHOWS

>     In regard to Scott's thoughts on the top Christmas Shows from OTR --  I don't
>     think any list of (5) would do the topic justice.  You might argue that for
>     pure sentamentality, the annual AMOS AND AND show was the best.  But then you
>     could say that Lionel Barrymore in the full-length "A Christmas Carol" was
>     the most outstanding.  There are at least 3 other entries for that dramatic
>     work, one of which
>     Michael Biel poointed out to us in his recent comment. He is sending that one
>     to me. He also commented about the Crosby/Welles "Prince" - The LUM AND ABNER
>     Christmas Special had something no other show had.  THE GREAT GILDERSLEEVE
>     "Why The Chines Rang" was a winner!  Christmas shows with
>     BENNY, ALLEN, BURNS & ALLEN, SKELTON, OUR MISS BROOKS and so many, others
>     were SO personal - it seemed that they were being done just for you!! Don't
>     forget to listen to "Miracle in Manhattan" from DUFFY'S TAVERN too !
>     If anyone's interested in Christmas collections, Heritage Radio has a MP3CD
>     with 51 OTR Christmas shows.
>     Write offline.   Still no shoveling here in New England.  Hard to get in the
>     "spirit"
>     of things until some white stuff comes down.
>     Tom Heathwood   - Heritage Radio  --  Heritage4@[removed]

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:07:55 -0500
>     From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
>     To: <[removed]@[removed];
>     Subject: Christmas shows

>     Scott Eberbach wondered if Fibber McGee and Molly's 'Twas the Night Before
>     Christmas" was ever released on commercial disc and the answer is, "yes."

>     I have a copy of the albulm (I believe there are 3 10" 78's) put out on the
>     Capitol label.

>     Brian

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:08:04 -0500
>     From: badaxley@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: Favorite OTR Actors/Actresses

>     I guess my favorite OTR Actors/Actresses are the
>     supporting actors such as Harry Bartell, Parley Baer,
>     Lurene Tuttle, Bea Benedarit, etc.  They are so
>     versatile and play so many different type roles from
>     drama to comedy.
>     Bob Axley

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:04:55 -0500
>     From: Tom van der Voort <evan@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: Teddy Roosevelt, etc.

>          Just came across a program featuring Teddy Roosevelt, western artist
>     Frederic Remington, and Butch Cassidy  with his Hole in the Wall Gang
>     (sorry, no Sundance Kid!).
>          Does anyone know what broadcast included this famous trio?  Extra
>     points if you give the date  :-).
>     Tom van der Voort

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:04:42 -0500
>     From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: Favorite Radio Actors/ress

>     Let's see; Harry Bartell, Virginia Gregg, Janet Waldo,
>     Parley Baer, Larry Dobkin, Anne Whitfield, Rhoda
>     Williams, Agnes Moorehead, James Stewart, Cary Grant,
>     Eddie Marr, Norma Jean Nielson, Lurene Tuttle, Howard
>     Duff, Herb Ellis, Dick, Beals, John Dehner, Ben
>     Wright, Ralph Bell, Will Wright, Vivi Janiss, Bryna
>     Rayburn, Amzie Strickland, Tommy Cook, Bill Johnston,
>     John Archer, Willard Waterman, Harold Peary, Jim
>     Jordon, Marion Jordon, Gale [removed] oh this is
>     silly.
>     If the performance is good than the performer becomes
>     a favorite. Larry Albert

>     ------------------------------

>     Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:07:25 -0500
>     From: Althofft@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject: MyCat OTR database.

>     Some background on MY-CAT (as best as i can recall)...

>     It was written on a 20MHZ 386 as a DOS [removed] application.   I don't think the
>     source code has survived. When I wrote Dick Judge's Memories of Radio
>     Catalog on Disk (MORCAT)  I took its engine (an ISAM based db called C
>     Database Toolchest) and wrote a quick way to add shows to your own
>     collection.  I have a friend that still uses it.

>     Two of its biggest shortcomings are the non-standard database format and very
>     limited printing ability.  It is darn fast though.  It was written for fast
>     performance on a 25Mhz 486 so you can imagine what it does on today's [removed]
>     Pentiums.

>     There is also a bug in the installation program that sees some of today's GB
>     hard drives as minus XXXXX mb in size.  The installation program looks to see
>     if there is  more disk space available.  Huge drives return a negative size
>     to some of the old DOS programs.  The -xxxxxx bytes (less than zero)
>     available causes the installation to fail.   If this happens, It can be
>     installed onto a floppy disk and then the entire floppy copied over to a
>     folder on the hard drive.

>     If I were to start a database today, I'd be inclined to go with a more
>     standard format (dbase, MS Access) so that whatever info I typed in could be
>     sent to others to trade.  Of course, you can send MyCat to anyone as it is
>     public domain so if you wanted to you could .zip up your MyCat folder and
>     e-mail it to someone else to look at and not be bothered with
>     importing/exporting data.

>     MORCAT evolved into MORWIN, a windows based program.  Sadly, I have not
>     attempted to make a personal version to track your own collection along the
>     lines of MyCat.  Maybe [removed]

>     Tom Althoff
>     [removed] Box 1259
>     Greenwood Lake, NY 10925

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