Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #43
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 1/29/2003 12:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 43
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Thank you kindly                  [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
      Actors on Radio and TV                [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
      Family Theatre                        [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
      Robert Rockwell                       [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      The Twilight Zone radio dramas        [ "Carl Amari" <camari@falconpictureg ]
      Re: A&Es BIOGRAPHY, AMC's DRAGNET     [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      Longest Running Radio Program         [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
      Norman Panama, famed comedy writer d  [ "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@comc ]
      Liquidating OTR Reel-to-Reel Collect  [ RickAir@[removed] ]
      dorothy thompson                      [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
      TV to radio                           [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
      Those "singing" canaries              [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
      Long running radio program            [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
      OTR Poetry                            [ "RANDY COLLINS" <rlctm@[removed]; ]
      Re: Mr. Boynton                       [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ lois@[removed] ]
      Re: husband and wife teams            [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Re: saw them on TV first              [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      39 Forever: HARRY SHEARER             [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      OTR Music Programs                    [ "Steve Atlas" <slavacotr@[removed] ]
      jim cox article                       [ chris chandler <chrischandler84@yah ]

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:23:27 -0500
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Thank you kindly

    Dan Trigg just posted some nice comments;

>     I finished Hall's book a couple of weeks ago, and it made me feel like this
>     is a guy who really is good people.

    God! I hope I come across that way. I know I can sometimes rankle folks with
    my conservative views, and Charlie has to muzzle me, but I'd rather be
    remembered for my sense of humor, and decency.

>     Better folks than myself have described how good it is, so the only thing I
>     will say is Hal, When can we expect the next one?

    Actually, [removed] This book about the OTR years is sort of testing the
    waters. If the reviews remain positive, and the sales continue, then I will
    get back to the one I started about my later 25 years in TV. But as I said
    before, the tone and slant will be quite different. Not because the medium
    was different, but because I had a great deal of respect for the people I
    worked with in Radio. I can't say the same for the idiots I encountered in
    TV. :)

    While I'm at it, I'd like to bring up a problem that is bothering me.

    A fellow Digester (female, if you must know) who I have tremendous respect
    for, has cautioned me against "plugging" the sale of my book too much here
    in the Digest. For fear that it could sound too self serving, and "pushy".

    I would never want to do that, HONEST! But by the same token, I have been
    advised that one must continue to call attention to "How to order" the book,
    because a) people are forgetful and don't write that info down. b) Need to
    be reminded that it's available. c) maybe finally becoming interested in
    getting a copy because of the positive reviews.

    [removed] What's a fellow to do?

    How 'bout this? Those Digesters who enjoy the book, and post some nice
    [removed] about them including the info as to the web site address they
    used to get their copy. It sure would save me mentioning it, and looking too
    self serving.

    [removed] here comes the address one more time. All those folks who have
    e-mailed me and told me they plan to order the book, please copy this down
    so you will have it at your finger tips when you finally remember to do it.
    :)

    The direct link to the order page is;

    [removed]

    A simple address to access our web site is;

    [removed]

    Ok? Can I go back contemplating my navel?

    Regards

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    Jughead

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:03:35 -0500
    From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Actors on Radio and TV

      Harlan, you brought back a lot of memories of radio stars that went on to
    be TV stars. Olan Soule was Barney Fife's songleader on The Andy Griffith
    Show and was very perplexed as he tried valiantly to keep Barney's voice
    from being heard when he sang.
      Andrew Godfrey

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:03:55 -0500
    From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Family Theatre

      A show I haven't heard mentioned too often on this digest is Family
    Theatre. The show Flight From Home with Loretta Young and Don Ameche was one
    of the most heartwarming stories I have ever heard. If someone listens to
    this show and doesn't feel something in their heart something is wrong. It
    originally aired [removed],1947. The prayer they say before entering their
    house the first time makes the show worthwhile by itself.
      If you have never heard a Family Theatre show before this would be a great
    show to listen to first.
      Andrew Godfrey

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:04:30 -0500
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Robert Rockwell

    Robert Rockwell, radio and TV's Mr. Boynton on Our Miss Brooks, died last
    Saturday at the age of 82. you can read his obituary at

    [removed],0,[removed]

    Robert Rockwell was an honorary SPERDVAC member. You can learn more about
    his career in radio, TV, movies and stage if you check out the video of his
    appearance at the SPERDVAC meeting October 14, 2000.

    It's ironic that he passed away on the same day as the Richard Crenna
    memorial.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:35:49 -0500
    From: "Carl Amari" <camari@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Twilight Zone radio dramas

    I am very interested in hearing what members of this digest think of my new
    radio series "The Twilight Zone" radio dramas.  I will gladly send you a
    free CD of a program if you email your name and address to me at
    camari@[removed]  "The Twilight Zone" radio dramas are brand
    new radio adaptations of Rod Serling's classic scripts by prolific sci-fi
    writer Dennis Etchison.  Each program is hosted by Stacy Keach and features
    a Hollywood celebrity supported by a full cast, sound effects and music.  XM
    Satellite Radio will soon be carrying the show on channel 163 - Sonic
    Theatre.  It is heard weekly on nearly 100 stations and Yesterday USA and
    globally via The American Forces Radio & Television Service.  Collection 1
    and 2 are currently available at [removed] and Collection 3
    and 4 will be available in two weeks.  Upcoming shows will star: Adam
    Baldwin, Bruno Kirby, Adam West, Stan Freberg, John Ratzenberger, Chelcie
    Ross, Andrea Evans, Mike Starr, Morgan Brittany, Frank John Hughes and TV
    alumni's Orson Bean, Shelley Berman, [removed] Wynant, Beverly Garland and Peter
    Mark Richman.
    Best regards,
    Carl Amari

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:36:39 -0500
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: A&Es BIOGRAPHY, AMC's DRAGNET

    My friend in the ether, Derek Tague, wrote:

>      This coming Thursday 01/30, the A&E cable network will be repeating the
>     Jack Webb segment of its popular "A&E Biography" series, no doubt to
>     piggyback the publicity surrounding  this coming weekend's TV premiere of
>     an updated "Dragnet."

    As good as the BIOGRAPHY segment is, an even better "piggyback" was AMC's
    presentation last night of the 1966 DRAGNET TV movie, with its veritable
    "Who's Who of OTR" in the cast: Webb, Virginia Gregg, Harry Bartell, Sam
    Edwards, Olan Soule, Herb Ellis, Eddie Firestone and more.  Readers of my
    book, MY NAME'S FRIDAY, know my stance on this film - it's the best non-OTR
    DRAGNET ever made.  For once AMC has done something right: a lot of local TV
    listings had this down as the Dan Aykroyd-Tom Hanks version.  Hopefully
    people who tuned in expecting that abomination stuck around to see DRAGNET
    as it *should* be done.  Dick Wolf will have a heckuva time topping it.  I
    write this not to rub it in, but to let you know it will repeat on AMC at
    9:50am EST on February 19, so set your VCRs and DVD recorders!

    Michael

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:09:08 -0500
    From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Longest Running Radio Program

    Hello All:

    No it's not Paul Harvey.  His show dates from 1950. It's Alistair Cooke's
    LETTER FROM AMERICA, which has been on the BBC since 1946 and which I now
    listen to each week at the BBC's website.  Even at 95 Cooke's commentary on
    the news is as good as any and better than most.

    George

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:28:02 -0500
    From: "Ivan G. Shreve, Jr." <iscreve@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Norman Panama, famed comedy writer dies

    [removed]

    Ivan G. Shreve, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:35:16 -0500
    From: RickAir@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Liquidating OTR Reel-to-Reel Collection
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    Have converted my OTR collection to CD's and want to sell OTR reel-to-reel
    tapes. Have over 150 tapes immediately available, mostly 1800' with 12 half
    hour shows per reel. Series include Jack Benny, Suspense, Great Gildersleeve.
    Inner Sanctum and many others. Also have many 10 1/2" metal reels of Ampex
    631 tape, 3600 foot 1 mil tapes.  These are low generation copies collected
    in the 1970's from primary collectors. Please contact me off list if
    interested.  Thanks!

    Rick Garofalo

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:49:56 -0500
    From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
    To: otr <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  dorothy thompson

    I am seeking one or two examples of the work of Dorothy
    Thompson, a leading news commentator in the 1930s. Does her
    work still exist on tape or other media?

    Seem to recall Elizabeth providing us her background, but as
    for actual tapes, etc. wonder if any are in circulation.

    Michael Berger

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    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:31:14 -0500
    From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  TV to radio

    I am another guy who grew up on TV and learned about OTR later. I remember
    what a thrill it was to discover the voice of Alan Reed, who gave voice to
    Fred Flintstone, on so many old radio shows (Duffy's Tavern and more). I
    knew Bea Benederet from Petticoat Junction and, again, The Flintstones
    (Betty Rubble). Now I listen to her all the time on the Jack Benny Show. I
    understand the voice of Mr. Ed belongs to a radio cowboy--Rocky Lane--but I
    have not been able to locate any of his shows. I always thought it would be
    amusing to listen to one of those.

    Mike Leannah

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:03:58 -0500
    From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Those "singing" canaries

    Hi, all.  Very interesting to read about the various old radio progams that
    featured singing canaries.  I had never heard of these programs before.

    While not a regular program featuring such birds,  between 1922  and 1927,
    radio station KHJ in Los Angeles, owned by the Los Angeles Times,  had
    singing canaries in its studio, and they soon became the station mascot.
    The station became famous in  the early years of radio having the canaries
    as part of the station broadcasts.  One newspaper story told about how KHJ
    announcer and station manager John S. Daggett named the three canaries
    "Kindness, Happiness and Joy", which was KHJ's slogan in their early years.
    Publicity pictures were taken of Daggett at the KHJ microphone and the bird
    cages nearby showing the three canaries.  The story said that the canaries
    could easily be heard on the air at station ID time over KHJ and during many
    of their programs.  Distant listeners trying to tune into the Los Angeles
    station at night in the midwest and east were able to identify it as KHJ,
    when they heard the canaries merrily chirping away over the airwaves.  Of
    course, different canaries were used over the years taking their places as
    the three featured KHJ birds.

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:19:12 -0500
    From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Long running radio program

    Hi   all!

    I don't know if this would qualify, and I'm sure it didn't have the same
    host or announcer over the years.  This was
    a regular weekly broadcast of a church service.

>     >From late-December of 1924 until September of 1996, radio station

    KPPC-1240/AM in Pasadena, California aired the 11 [removed] broadcast of the
    Sunday morning service from Pasadena Presbyterian Church.   That's roughly
    71 years and 9 months.  This was a hometown broadcast on a low-powered
    station dating from radio's earliest days.  KPPC transmitted with 50 watts
    of power from 1924 to 1936, 100 watts from 1936 to 1985, and 250 watts in
    its last years.

    The only reason this weekly church broadcast ended is because the station
    was sold and the owner turned in the license, so KPPC went off the air
    forever and went dark.

    Jim

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:01:34 -0500
    From: "RANDY COLLINS" <rlctm@[removed];
    To: "Contact7" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR Poetry
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    I would appreciate any help in finding series/episodes of otr that focused on
    poetry. I am familiar with "Poetic License" from the 30's--do any shows
    survive? I believe Norman Corwin was involved, if memory and Dunning are
    correct. What was the format of "Poetic License?" Also, according to Dunning,
    Mr. Corwin was known as radio's poet. What were some of the other series
    Corwin was involved with and what was the poetic connection? Were the shows
    themselves done in various poetic formats; did they feature popular poetry of
    the time, etc? Were there other series that featured entire scripts done in
    poetry format? Perhaps CBS Radio Workshop, etc? For Elizabeth and others,
    knowing early radio often focused on classical music and the arts in general,
    was there also an early focus on poetry? If so, do any recordings survive
    featuring great poets of the early 20th century? Perhaps a series like
    "Information Please" featured a famous poet as a panel member. Just to hear
    the voice of some of the greats would be wonderful, to hear them performing
    their work would be thrilling. Randy Collins

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:13:05 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Mr. Boynton

>     The obit isn't clear on whether he played the role on
>     radio as well, but I'm sure other people on the list
>     would know. I'm only familiar with Jeff Chandler's
>     portrayal of Boynton; and since I'm at work, I can't
>     check Dunning to find out more about Rockwell.

    I am listening to some mid-1950s "Our Miss Brooks" radio episodes now (it ran
    until 1957, one season later than the TV show) and Rockwell did, indeed,
    assume the role of Mr. Boynton later in the show's run.

    Incidentally, two questions about the show that I have always heard: 1) I
    heard in the annual Christmas Show, Jeff Chandler always kissed his script
    (in the scene where he's supposed to kiss Connie under the mistletoe), but
    Robert Rockwell always kissed Eve Arden on the cheek; 2) Episodes from the
    radio show's last season were done live and are hard to find now.  Any truth
    to these?

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 04:52:05 -0500
    From: lois@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

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    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel!

    Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
    Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
    Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
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    maintainer of the best-known OTR Digest (we all know who he is)..........

    and Me

    Lois Culver
    KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
    KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
    and widow of actor Howard Culver

    (For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:23:37 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: husband and wife teams

    As much as we've mentioned Ozzie and Harriet lately, I don't think we've
    mentioned them in the husband and wife thread.  So I am putting in my two
    cents.  Also, has anyone mentioned Lucille Ball ("My Favorite Husband") and
    Desi Arnaz ("Your Tropical Trip")?  Or Tex and Jinx?  Or Humphrey Bogart and
    Lauren Bacall ("Bold Venture")?

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:01:10 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: saw them on TV first

    To follow on Harlan Zinck's thread, on people I grew up seeing on TV before I
    realized their radio pasts:

    *William [removed] him as "Cannon" before I knew *anyone* other than
    James Arness ever played Matt Dillon.

    *Howard [removed] of "Gunsmoke," imagine my surprise to find out
    Mayberry's Floyd the Barber was once [removed]

    *Parley [removed] that Mayberry's Mayor Stoner was once Chester!

    *Agnes [removed] once thought of her only as Endora, but now I think of
    her just as much as Margo Lane, or as Mrs. Elbert Stevenson in the "Suspense"
    play "Sorry, Wrong Number."

    *Dick [removed] knew Darrin was once Jack Armstrong's best friend Billy?

    *Cathy [removed] knew her from "Hazel" long before I knew she had such a
    highly distinguished radio career.

    *Tony [removed] biggest surprise of all was that stuffy, allergy-ridden
    Felix Unger was once one-third of the adventure-seeking "I Love a Mystery"
    team.

    *Jack [removed] knew him as the by-the-book Sgt. Friday long before I ever
    heard of him as such renaissance men as Pete Kelley or Pat Novak.

    *Gale [removed] was mentioned already but bears mentioning again.  First I
    knew him from his TV work with Lucy; then a TV station reran "Our Miss
    Brooks" and I knew him from that; then I discovered he played Mayor LaTrivia.
    Imagine my surprise when I found out on top of all *that* he was also Flash
    Gordon!

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:01:37 -0500
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  39 Forever:  HARRY SHEARER

    Hello again,

    I am pleased to report that HARRY SHEARER, former Beverly Hills Beaver and
    present-day voice of at least a dozen characters on The Simpsons (including
    C. M. Burns and Smithers), will be speaking at the Jack Benny Marathon.  Go
    to [removed] or look up his name on [removed] to see his
    impressive resume from child actor to actor/writer/composer/director.

    For more information and to sign up online with your credit card, go to
    [removed] and click on the first link under Featured Items.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

    [removed]  See you at the IJBFC chat this Sunday, February 2 at 7PM Central (8PM
    Eastern, 5PM Pacific)!

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:01:56 -0500
    From: "Steve Atlas" <slavacotr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Music Programs

    Does anyone know where I can find copies of the following Old Time Radio
    Music programs:
        Voice of Firestone
        Longines Symphonette
        Bell Telephone Hour (may be simply be called The Telephone Hour)?

    I found a few Voice of Firestone and Longines Symphonette shows at Carl
    Froelich's Old Time Radio service and purchased them from him, but am
    interested in getting more. I will be glad to do an exchange and send copies
    of either some of my Old Time Radio programs, or some of my own music LPs,
    tapes or CDS of rarely heard or out-of printe recordings.

    Please reply privately to me at slavacotr@[removed]. (You can also feel
    free to write to everyone on the list, since this may be of interest to
    other subscribers.)

    Thanks.

    Steve Atlas

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    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:59:33 -0500
    From: chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  jim cox article

    Hey [removed]'s an article I wrote, just published
    today, about the OTR author (and my pal) Jim [removed]
    posts here frequently, thought you might like to learn
    more about him and how he does his research.  Let me
    know what you think.  :)

    [removed]

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