Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #235
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Date: 8/5/2005 1:12 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 235
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  8-4 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Leo Records' [removed]              [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
                                        [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
  The big bands go distaff              [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Hildegarde RIP                        [ Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon. ]
  Merv Griffin                          [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Re: Addendum to previous (Radio perf  [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
  Harry Lang                            [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
  Disc jockeys who made records         [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
  WAR OF THE WORLDS Recordings          [ Paul Evans <evans_paul1963@[removed] ]
  Questions and comments about Theater  [ jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed]; ]
  Re: Murrow DVDs                       [ Jodie Peeler <raisingirl@mindspring ]
  Chase and Sanborn show                [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
  Soupy Sales Correction                [ [removed]@[removed] ]
  The Aldredge Family                   [ "William Schell" <bschell@[removed] ]
  The End of an Era                     [ Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@y ]
  NBC Question                          [ Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@y ]
  DJs who made records                  [ James Meadows <walthamus@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:44:46 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  8-4 births/deaths

August 4th births

08-04-1792 - Percy Shelly - Field Place, England - d. 7-8-1822
poet: "Moon River"
08-04-1889 - William Keighley - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-24-1984
host: Lux Radio Theatre
08-04-1890 - Carson Robison - Near Chetopa, KS - d. 3-24-1957
singer: "Eveready Hour"; "Dutch Masters Mimstrels"
08-04-1897 - Abe Lyman - Chicago, IL - d. 10-23-1957
bandleader: "Jack Pearl Show"; "Lavender and New Lace"; "Waltz Time"
08-04-1898 - Hugh O'Connell - d. 1-19-1943
actor, comedian: "Vanity Fair"
08-04-1901 - Louis Armstrong - New Orleans, LA - d. 7-6-1971
trumpeter: "Pursuit of Happiness"; "Sealtest Village Store"; "Story of Swing"
08-04-1903 - Helen Kane - The Bronx, NY - d. 9-26-1966
actress: (The Boop-Boop-a-Doop Girl) "Today's Children"
08-04-1904 - Theodore Newton - Lawrenceville, NJ - d. 2-28-1963
actor: Christopher Parker "Joyce Jordan, [removed]"
08-04-1905 - Frank Luther - Lakin, KS - d. 11-16-1980
singer: "Luther-Layman Singer"; "Frank Luther Show"; "Happy Wonder Bakers Trio"
08-04-1905 - Luther Roundtree - d. 4-30-1990
banjo player: "The Spike Jones Show"
08-04-1908 - Wally Maher - Ohio - d. 12-27-1951
actor: Dan Murray "One Man's Family"; Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"
08-04-1914 - Dick Todd - Montreal, Canada - d. 5-xx-1975
singer: "Avalon Time"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Rinso-Spry Vaudeville Theatre"
08-04-1915 - William Keene - Pennsylvania - d. 5-23-1992
actor: Red Lantern "Land of the Lost"
08-04-1921 - Herb Purdum - d. 4-16-1993
writer: "Gunsmoke"

August 4th deaths

01-01-1895 - Bernard Schubert - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-4-1988
writer, producer: "The Falcon"; "Murder and Mr. Malone"; "Your Lucky Strike"
01-29-1915 - Victor Mature - Louisville, KY - d. 8-4-1999
actor: "Hollywood Star Playhouse"
04-05-1901 - Melvyn Douglas - Macon, GA - d. 8-4-1981
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-19-1920 - Frank Fontaine - Cambridge, MA - d. 8-4-1978
comedian: John L. C. Sivoney "Jack Benny Program"
06-01-1926 - Marilyn Monroe - Los Angeles, CA - d. 8-4-1962
actress: "Hollywood Star Playhouse"; "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
06-25-1913 - John Pickard - Lascossas, TN - d. 8-4-1993
actor: Grant Thursday "Pretty Kitty Kelly"; Bruce Barrett "My Son and I"
08-25-1908 - Walter Burke - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-4-1984
actor: Mark Saber's Assistant "Inspector Mark Saber"
10-25-1909 - True Boardman - Seattle, WA - d. 8-4-2003
writer, narrator: "Silver Theatre"; "Favorite Story"
11-16-1905 - Eddie Condon - Goodland, IN - d. 8-4-1973
guitarist, host: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
12-30-1927 - Bernie Barrow - New York City, NY - d. 8-4-1993
actor: "Golden Door"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:24:51 -0400
From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Leo Records' [removed]

It was Bob Holiday--than starring in the Broadway musical IT'S A BIRD,
IT'S A PLANE, IT'S SUPERMAN--on the MGM/Leo SUPERMAN album, released
around the same time as their FLASH GORDON, BATMAN, SHADOW,
[removed]

By the way, there are some GREAT songs in that Broadway score, a CD
that's well worth checking it.

And, by the way, when they presented that Broadway musical, in Italy--

It was--

(Ahem)

A Roman [removed]

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:56:20 -0400
From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  
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With all due respect to Dave Parker "who was there" at WXYZ, I have heard the
Lone Ranger episode featuring Al Jennings, and have it in my thousands of
tapes although I might have a bit of trouble locating it.  In the story, the
Lone Ranger does not capture Jennings.  He is only a secondary villain in the
story.  The Masked Man solves the central problem and says to Tonto "We will
leave the capturing of Jennings and his gang to the sheriff."   Then shortly
"Hi Yo Silver, Away!"
    However, when I first heard this show on recording a few years ago it
occurred to me that if a villain from the days of the Lone Ranger could still
be alive at the time of the broadcast -- and of course Jennings was and
threatened to sue -- so could the Lone Ranger himself still be alive in his
senior years at the time of the broadcast.
    I wrote a story, avoiding all copyrighted trademarks, about a masked rider
of the old west who was still doing his part for his country, then working
with Treasury Agent Elliot Ness.  That story is included in my current book of
science fiction and other wonders, "Harmon's Galaxy", $15, available at
[removed] or directly from me.  The story is called "The Legend at Sunset".
    -- JIM HARMON

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:20:11 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The big bands go distaff

Paul Whiteman was the first bandmaster to add a feminine soloist to his
troupe.  Her name?  Mildred Bailey, one and the same to occupy our
discussions in recent days.  She was to add sparkle subsequently to The
George Jessel Show.  But if you've read my latest volume, "Music Radio:  The
Great Performers and Programs of the 1920s through Early 1960s"
([removed], 800-253-2187), you probably knew that already.

Jim Cox

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:35:55 -0400
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Hildegarde RIP

The Raleigh Room is now officially closed.  The incomparable Hildegarde 
-- Hildegarde Loretta Sell -- passed away July 29th at the age of 99.

The Washington Post had a fairly comprehensive obit:
[removed]

--Alan

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:36:01 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Merv Griffin

Michael Gwynne wrote:

They tell me here in Mount Kisco, New York, that  Merv started his radio
career here at WVIP and that even then he had many a  'local' as an
interview guest on his show.

I think not, unless you don't count his radio singing career.   Merv was a
SF Bay Area guy, born in San Mateo.  He attended USF until 1944.  From
1945-48 he was a singer at KFRC in SF.   Born in 1925 he was just 20 when he
started out.

KFRC has a wonderful radio history.  Others who started their radio careers
at KFRC were Don Wilson (as a member of the Piggly Wiggly trio!), Ralph
Edwards.  Art Van Horn and Mark Goodson of Goodson/Todman Fame who was
already developing quiz shows for KFRC.   Hal Peary and Morey Amsterdam
began their radio acting careers at KFRC; John Nesbitt began  'Passing
Parade' at KFRC.  Bea Benaderet was SF's and KFRC's 'famous lady announcer.'
Meredith Willson came to KFRC as the 'Concert Director' after  five years
with the NY Philharmonic. KFRC is still going strong, having gone through
many formats and many different owners.   KFRC was the first station Don Lee
bought, eventually becoming part of the Don Lee-Mutual Network.

Nothing against WVIP.   I was born and raised  in Westchester County, the
home of WVIP.   The SF Bay Area, where I now live,  and the greater NYC area
are my 2 favorite places in the country.

-Irene

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:36:26 -0400
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Addendum to previous (Radio performers on
 records)

Derek "Ether" Tague wrote:
I'd like to add the name of Superman himself by including Clayton "Bud"
Collyer,
a radio announcer in his own right, but honestly cannot remember whether
Supes
on those phonograph records was voiced by the radio/cartoon Superman
Collyer, or by the Broadway Superman at the time, Bob Holiday

The one album of which I'm aware, from 1966, features Holiday, Beck and Joan
Alexander.  (I still have some CDs of this album, and if anyone wants any I
can bring them to FOTR.  Just email me off-list.)  I don't know whether or
not Collyer (who worked with Beck and Alexander on the 1966 "New Adventures
of Superman" Saturday-morning series from Filmation) lent his voice to any
Superman records.

I hayde when that happens

I don't like it ether!

Michael

(Administrivia may insert "Knock off the puns, you clowns" tirade here.)

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:36:37 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Harry Lang

--- [removed]@[removed] wrote:

Where Ron Sayles mentions Harry Lang as passing on an
August the third.  Here are some of my memories of Mr.
Lang.

Click on the following:

[removed]

CAB

---
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
Encino, CA
Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:12:23 -0400
From: wilditralian@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Disc jockeys who made records

08-04-05

All y'all within the sound o' my voice!

I may have missed it, but did anyone mention the greatest DJ of 'em all
and his melodious (or ... malodorous) rendition of "On Top of a Pizza"?
Dick Biondi's career, at its peak, was based out of that nighttime beacon
for the whole country, WLS Chicago, started by Sears, Roebuck & Co.
(World's Largest Store).  Dick was -- and, as far as I know, still IS, on
a smaller Chicago station -- a master of doing on the radio what could
never have been staged on television or the movies back in those
pre-Spielburg years -- such as the famous submarine races in Lake
Michigan.  You couldn't watch those races on TV, but you sho' 'nuff could
hear a minute-by-minute account on the radio, compliments of Dick Biondi,
The Wild Eye-Trallion.

Ah, yes -- that great recording of the song which I believe was written
and recorded by someone else:  On Top of a Pizza.  Let's see -- I haven't
heard it in 40 years ... how does that go?

	On top of a pizza,
	All covered with cheese,
	I saw my first meatball
	'Til somebody sneezed.

	It rolled off the table
	And onto the floor,
	It ro-oh-oh-oh-olled
	Right out of the door.

	It rolled into the stre-eet,
	And there it was smashed,
	It went from a meatball
	Into a pile of hash.

	I picked up that pile,
	That pile of hash,
	And put it in a container
	That was marked for the TRASH.

	And now Mayor Daily
	Is happy with me,
	For making Chiacgo
	A cleaner city.

I can't believe I remembered that.  It's amazing what an impression a
champion Dj can make on ya!  Dick, if you are reading this, many thanks
for years of pleasure!

A fan forever,

Jim Arva

(and I hope you'll forgive me for stealing your moniker for my e-mail
address, wilditralian@[removed].)

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:32:44 -0400
From: Paul Evans <evans_paul1963@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WAR OF THE WORLDS Recordings
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I have just read the new Max Allan Collins novel, The War of the Worlds
Murder, and damn near read it in one sitting.  The 1938 Orson Welles
broadcast was my first exposure to Old-Time Radio, when I borrowed a
two-record LP set of it from my local library.

I have heard other recordings of it, and one featured some dialogue that was
in the printed script but not in any recorded version I have heard.  During
Professor Pierson's first-person narrative after the Martians invade New
York, he says, "I look down at my blackened hands, my torn shoes, my tattered
clothes"--and I have never heard this anywhere else, although it is in the
script.  Toward the end, he mentions seeing Princeton's spires through an
April haze.  Where did these recordings come from, and why aren't they more
universally available?

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:23:16 -0400
From: jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Questions and comments about Theater Five
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August 4, 2005

Dear Old Time Radio Digest:

In the last couple of weeks I have been listening to tapes from the series
Theater Five.

This was the first attempt by a radio network to revise radio drama after the
end of the golden age of radio came to an en in 1962.  I have a series of
questions about this program.

Who at A. B. C. Radio created this program?  Was it a hard sell to A. B. C.
scents the network discontinued radio drama in 1957 or 1958 and was the first
network to do so?  Did the network make a major effort to promote the program
in over the air ads or in press announcements?   How many A. B. C. stations
aired the program?

Did listeners in New York City hear it because W. A. B. C. radio was a top
forty stations was it broadcast on a non network affiliate?

Did the program get any reviews in the trade press such as Broadcasting or
variety or in the main stream press such as the New York Times Time or News
Week?  At the close of the program Fred Foy would Say "We invite your
comments write to Theater Five New York 23, New York" did the program receive
a large response by mail?

Of the post 1962 radio dramas how is Theater Five regarded among radio
collectors when compared with the C. B. S. Radio Mystery Theater Zero Hour
and the Sears Radio Theater, etc.    In his first book John Dunning did not
give Theater Five high marks.  I liked the program for it was the first of
its type.

Thanks

Jim Taylor

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:23:38 -0400
From: Jodie Peeler <raisingirl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Murrow DVDs

hello all --

Sean Dougherty shared:

There is a new set of DVDs out regarding the television career of
Edward R. Murrow.

For those of us who've had the VHS versions of these programs for years,
the DVD release is good news indeed.  Can't wait for the chance to pick
mine up!

A review is here.
[removed]

Wow.  Now, I'll be the first to admit Murrow wasn't God, but was the guy
who wrote this review trying to channel Jack O'Brian?  Ouch.

Incidentally, The Onion's AV Club ([removed]) had a
review of the DVD set a few weeks back.

Jodie Peeler

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:35:23 -0400
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Chase and Sanborn show
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I am trying to date a Chase and Sanborn show. It is either 8-12-45 or
7-29-45. It is broadcast from the The Army Air Forces Redistribution Center
#3, Santa Monica, California. One clue is that Frances Langford refers to
August 1 coming up, so you would think July 29. On the other hand, at the end
of the show they say the next week's show will be in Pasadena. That occurred
on Aug. 19. Although it is possible the location got changed after the
broadcast. It is also mentioned that it is Ken Carpenter's 23rd anniversary.
Any help?

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 21:58:59 -0400
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Soupy Sales Correction

Someone wrote in the Digest:
"SOUPY SALES: started his career at WXYZ/Detroit and had a hit c. 1965
with a novelty dance tune "the Mouse."

Actually he started his radio career at a 1,000 watt station in his hometown,
Huntington, W Va. Soupy and I attended the same high school and worked at the
same station only about 30 years apart!

He has told the story several times, about how he went to a 250 watt station in
Huntington and applied. They suggested he start at a smaller station. He said
you can't get much smaller than 250 watts. Of course what they were talking
about was a smaller market, Huntington WVa. then was in the Top 50 radio
markets
in the country. Anyway he went across the street and they hired him.

Paul Urbahns

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:10:40 -0400
From: "William Schell" <bschell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Aldredge Family

About half way through my CD of the Aldridge Family, Ezra Stone (Henry)
leaves the show for military service I believe.  Does he ever return to the
cast?   The replacement Henry and Homer don't seem as good and their voices
are so similar I have trouble following which character is speaking.
Bill

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:10:36 -0400
From: Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The End of an Era

   From the [removed] website, I read of the end of an
era in baseball broadcasting. Starting with the 2006
season, the St. Louis Cardinals will end their more
than 50 year broadcasting relationship with KMOX.
Cardinal games will be broadcast over KTRS-AM as part
of an 8 year deal. The Cardinals will also buy a 50
percent stake in the station.
  Here's the link: 
[removed];content_id=1158163&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
  While I never got to hear games over KMOX, it still
strikes me as a sad day for baseball. Another
tradition ends. 
  I'd like to hear the memories of any fellow
Digesters who grew up listening to Harry Carey and
Jack Buck doing Cardinals games over KMOX.
  As a tie-in, a big thank you to my good friend Derek
Tague for his recent mention of "The Scooter" Phil
Rizzuto. We still miss his "unique" broadcasting style
'round these parts. Along with Harry Carey, Phil's
signature saying was "Holy Cow". 
    Ken "Thank God The Yankees Won Tonight" Stockinger

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:11:17 -0400
From: Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  NBC Question

   Hi Everyone,
      I hope this doesn't seem like a silly question,
but it's always made me wonder, so hopefully someone
can clear this up for me.
      While I've known the story of how the 2 NBC
networks came to be known as the "Red" and "Blue"
Networks for a while, why was it that I've never heard
airchecks where the announcer said " This is the Red
Network"? I'm guessing that since the "Red" was
considered the primary, that's why it got the "NBC"
tag and the "Blue" was just the "Blue"?
      The things I think of before
[removed]!
                         Ken

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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 03:06:58 -0400
From: James Meadows <walthamus@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  DJs  who made records

  This is far from a hit record, but when I was a
child in the 1960s, I had an LP on the old Cricket
children's label based on the Felix the Cat TV
cartoons made by Trans-Lux. The records were
essentially the soundtrack from the cartoons, with a
voice-over announcer describing the action.  I cannot
be certain, but in my memory, the announcer sounded
just like Casey Kasem.

Jim Meadows

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