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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 382


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Shepherd, Dillon, and the Brodericks
	 Re: Suspense
	 Perry Mason
	 The Scariest Show
	 OTR spelling reference
	 Blacklisted, Phantom, Dialect, Music, Similar
	 RE: SPERDVAC's Libraries?
	 SPERDVAC Elite Library (?)
	 They exist, but you can't hear them
	 Online addresses

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 01:15:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shepherd, Dillon, and the Brodericks
Message-ID: <[removed]@netcom2>

Ken Piletic wrote:


> The TV show on PBS that allegedly starred Matt Dillon was called
> "THE PHANTOM OF THE OPEN HEARTH"  Jean said in an interview that Matt
> Dillon did not play the part of "Ralph".  Rather, it was played by
> Matthew Broderick (spelling).   I always thought it was Dillon who
> portrayed Ralph as a teenager, but Shepherd says no, it was Broderick.

I have never seen _The Phantom of The Open Hearth_, but I have seen
another of Shepherd's PBS productions, _The Great American Fourth of July
(and Other Disasters)._  In that, Matt Dillon indeed does play Ralph, and
Matthew Broderick's father James plays the Old Man.


Rob Spencer

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 01:33:35 PST
From: robertm@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Suspense
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Alan Bell listed some shows, and was wondering if they were indeed Suspense.
Of those:

>>Alibi w/ Everett Sloan

There is an episode of The Whistler called The Alibi, but I do not know
if Everett Sloan is in that.  I have not listened to it yet, so this 
probably is not a WHOLE lot of [removed]

>>Present Tense w/ Vincent Price

There is an episode of Escape w/Vincent Price called Present Tense.
However, I suppose that Suspense may have done the same story with
Vincent Price.

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 09:32:36 -0500
From: dennbou@[removed] (J. Dennis Bounds)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Perry Mason
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I just got a message from one of our members suggesting I come to the
membership with this request.  It seems there was a person at the recent
Friends of OTR convention, in Newark, NJ a few weeks back, one of the
dealers, I 
believe it was Ed (?) Carr, who had some Perry Mason radio series tapes.  If
anyone can help me contact Mr. Carr or if anyone has a line on other sources
of Perry Mason tapes, please email me direct at:    dennbou@[removed]
Cordially,
Dennis
******************************** 
J. Dennis Bounds
Assistant Professor of Cinema-Television
Regent University
1000 Regent University Dr.
Virginia Beach, VA 23464-9847
Phone:  (804) 579-4134
FAX:  (804) 579-4291
e-mail:  dennbou@[removed]
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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 15:51:22 GMT
From: bilj@[removed] (Bill Jaker)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Scariest Show
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The most frightening thing I ever heard on the radio (aside from this 
morning's weather report) was a spooky story called "The Idol of Krom 
Krock". I'm not sure of the spelling of the name, nor can I remember when it 
was broadcast, which series, who the actors were.  All I remember is that I 
was a little kid and absolutely petrified. Have any of you ever heard of 
Krom Krock and the dramatization of this horror tale?
I think the most frightening _moment_ in old-time radio was the scene in 
Mutual's "Journey to the Center of the Earth" when the characters are almost 
dying of thirst and they come to a possible source of water.  They chop 
their way through a rock, hear the water gurgling louder and as they reach 
the end of their strength it comes gushing out -- boiling hot!
By shutting off one of our senses and manipulating our imagination, radio is 
a wonderful medium for fantasy and horror.  It's no surprise that this genre 
lasted longer on the networks than some of the lighter series.
                Bill Jaker,  Vestal, NY
      "We are living in the Magnetic Age"

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 09:52:38 -0800 (PST)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR spelling reference
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I was going through my collection and came across a tape
I recorded 40 years ago of the audio of an Ed Sullivan
Toast of the Town TV program. It was in honor of 35 years
of network radio. Before I put it back to rest I want to
stick a log sheet in the box but came up against a problem.
Has anyone put together a list of the proper spellings of
otr names? Trying to handle Norman Brockenshire and [removed]
Caltenboarn etc. will only get me the "close, but no cigar
award." Can anyone suggest a good reference?

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:39:49 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Blacklisted, Phantom, Dialect, Music, Similar
Message-ID: <951112133948_83669669@[removed]>

Hi Gang -                   November 12 - 1995 -- Sunday - 11:00 AM cst 

---- First Topic - The NPR Series, "Blacklisted" ----

Last month NPR broadcast a 3 part, 6-episode program entitled 
"Blacklisted".  In Chicago the program was broadcast on three consecutive
days.  Wednesday was episodes 1 & 2,  Thursday was 3 & 4, and Friday was 
the conclusion, episodes 5 & 6.   Unfortunately, these were the same days 
as the "Friends of Old Time Radio" convention, so I had to rely on a timer
to record "Blacklisted".  I just recently had time to transfer the timed
recordings to a permanent reel.  The Friday recordings did not take.  
I have only episodes 1 through 4.   Anyone having episodes 5 & 6 please 
contact me by e-mail.  Thank you.  

---- New Topic - "Phantom of the Open Hearth" ----  

Several readers of this digest have contacted me regarding trading for
a copy of "The Phantom of the Open Hearth" (Jean Shepherd's TV Special).
I have thus far been unable to locate that videotape.  I know I have it.
My video collection, while not as large as my radio collection, is not
catalogged in the computer, and the physical tapes are located all over
the house.  The Phantom is hiding.  I will be happy to trade as soon as
I find it.  I'll put a posting here in the digest when I locate the tape.

---- New Topic - Dialect Humor ----

Perhaps the last commercial recording of Dialect Humor was made by 
Jackie Miles in the 1950's.  The record is called "I'm A Rollin'", and
it features a Gene Autry fan describing a western movie in dialect.  
Radio stations used to play it a lot, but it suddenly disappeared from
the radio.  I thought perhaps Gene Autry or his company might have 
had something to do with this disappearance.  Now I wonder if political 
correctness might have been the reason.  Even Dr. Demento has not played
this record, as far as I know.  ( Coral #9-61249 - 45-86155 - 3:22 ) 
It should be noted that this is NOT a so-called "Party Record".  There 
are no cuss-words or double entendres.  It is not risque.  I would 
classify it as "clean humor", yet it seems to have disappeared overnight.

---- New Topic - OTR Music ----

In issue 379, Robert M. Connelly comments on the apparent unavailability
of music which was broadcast on OTR.  My observation is that most of 
the musical programs were done live, and recordings of those brodcasts 
would have been done privately.  Unless a sponsor or similarly interested 
persons would order a transcription, there would be no reason to record 
these broadcasts.  Then, it is unlikely that the entire program would be 
recorded.  It is extremely unlikely that an entire series of programs 
would be recorded.  Now, presuming that such recordings were made, many
would have been done on aluminum base ETs, and we all know that most of 
these aluminum base discs were turned in for the war effort.  After the
war a lot of aluminum was sold for scrap.   It's not hard to imagine why
so few of these excellent broadcasts are available today. 

---- Last Topic - Similar Shows ----

In issue 377, Charles Mazza asks about other programs in the vein of the
Shadow.  About the only program similar to The Shadow is The Avenger,  
which is a cheap imitation.  Perhaps you might enjoy the Avenger, but 
most OTR collectors do not appreciate such tripe.  

In the same article, Charles mentions the Lux Radio Theatre.  There are 
several programs in the vein of Lux, and they are all very good programs.
Three that come to mind are "Screen Director's Playhouse", "Academy 
Award", and "Screen Guild Theatre."  There are also programs like "Ford 
Theatre" which featured Hollywood movie actors as well as radio actors.

Happy Taping --  Ken Piletic 
kenpiletic@[removed] 

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:17:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: SPERDVAC's Libraries?
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hello [removed]

   Late last night I spoke with the SPERDVAC answer man (or one of the
two), Larry Gassman.  When I asked him about the existance of an "elite"
member library, he completely denied this "rumor" as he put it.  He asked
me also, "why would they do that?"  Which is a good question.

   So, perhaps in my last post, I spoke too soon, letting my emotions get
the best of me.  Does anyone else have any info on this?  Like I said
before, if it turns out there is this "hidden" library for "elite"
members, I'll be very upset.  We deserve to know the truth.

--------------------------------------------------
|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 17:02:49 -0500
From: Frank_Mallory@[removed] (Frank Mallory)
To: "OTR@[removed]"@[removed]
Subject: SPERDVAC Elite Library (?)
Message-ID: <MSGID_1=3A109=2F417_30a68b5c@[removed]>

 O>From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>

 O>   A few digests ago it was mentioned that SPERDVAC kept two
different
 O>libraries, one for the average Joe with the average shows, and
another
 O>library for the "elite" members (whoever they are?) with the rare
shows.

I'm sorry, but I missed the original post. But I assume you are
referring to the General Library and the Archives Library; and that you
think the Archives Library is reserved for "elite" members. If my
assumption is correct, perhaps I can offer some clarification.

The SPERDVAC General Library consists of tapes received from various
sources that were deposited with no restrictions on copying or usage,
other than any applicable copyright restrictions against commercial
usage. These are generally not first-generation tapes.

The Archives Library tapes, on the other hand, were made available by
the original artists, engineers, writers, technicians, and agencies
upon the express condition that they are for the SPERDVAC members'
personal use and collection _only_. Before you are allowed to receive
copies of Archives tapes, you have to sign an agreement that you will
not furnish copies of tapes received from the Archives library to
_anybody_ else, even another SPERDVAC member. Nearly all tapes in the
Archives library are first-generation open-reel tapes or
transcriptions, thus have the highest quality attainable.

Most of the Archives Library material can be copied for the members;
but apparently the Archives contains some material that has been
deposited by the originator with certain restrictions on this, and this
has caused problems in the past. My _understanding_ is that the
Archives Librarian failed to abide by the restrictions on some of this
material at a certain point in time, and made copies of restricted
material for any member who requested it. I do know that several years
ago, the Archives Library was closed to allow all material to be
reviewed; it has been partly re-opened.

Of course, we can't say for sure that the Archives Librarians are not
making ilicit copies of restricted material for themselves and/or close
friends; but this would be not only unethical but possibly illegal. In
an case, I am confident that there is no "elite" class of SPERDVAC
members who are allowed free access to this material.
 
 

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 18:05:21 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: They exist, but you can't hear them
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

This is another story going around about OTR that exists but we can't have. I
heard it at the RLL meeting last night.

Supposedly something like 90% of all the "Tom Mix" programs ever broadcast
(1933 - 1951) still exist. They are in the possession of the Ralston-Purina
Company who absolutely refuse to allow them to be taped for the hobby or
anyone else. Isn't this just wonderful? Ralston-Purina has no intention of
doing anything with the disks. But they won't let anyone else either. So
they'll just sit around and gradually turn into dust and another link with our
OTR past will be strictly memory.

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 22:27:51 -0500
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Online addresses
Message-ID: <951112222750_104855144@[removed]>

I am planning to list all online addresses of Hello Again Subscribers.  If
you subscribe, just email me a short note and I will have [removed]

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