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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 133


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Groove Update
	 McCarthyism vs. Humorists
	 NEED INFO ON ELGIN GROUP
	 humor/Joseph R. McCarthy
	 Lone Ranger
	 Cincinnati Convention
	 Real Audio for Archiving
	 Theater Five and Lux Logs
	 Clayton Moore
	 The Lone Ranger
	 Ellery Queen
	 Re: Lost Yukon land
	 Arch Oboler and thanks

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:57:54 -0600
From: Richard Veit <Richard_Veit@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Groove Update
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

                       Subject:                               Time:2:36 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          Groove Update                          Date:4/11/96

All that metaphysical postulating about the relative speeds of inner and outer
grooves on transcription discs and LPs reminded me of a riddle someone told
me:

Question: "How many grooves are there on a standard, 12-inch, 33-rpm LP
record?"
Answer: "One. It spirals around itself."

Uh, sorry about that!
Richard J. Veit

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:42:16 -0400
From: BanjoBud@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: McCarthyism vs. Humorists
Message-ID: <960411174216_467696089@[removed]>

Let's not forget Stan Freberg's great parody of the Army-McCarthy hearings
entitled "Point of Order."

Bud Black

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:13:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: midtod@[removed] (Larry Jordan)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: NEED INFO ON ELGIN GROUP
Message-Id: <v01520d00ad92fbe91d75@[[removed]]>

I am looking to obtain information on a group of old-time radio enthusiasts
whom I believe meet every year for a big convention/antique radio sale in
Elgin, Ill. Any information on how to contact this group would be
appreciated as I believe they have something planned for August and I want
to know the dates, etc.

(Incidentally, I receive your daily old-time radio digests, but haven't
posted for awhile and have forgotten how to do it. Perhaps you could remind
your readers what process to follow.)

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:17:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: apcohen@[removed] (Albert P. Cohen)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: humor/Joseph R. McCarthy
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

At the height of McCarthyism, Stan Freberg did a piece called "Point of
Order" or something very similar.  Although I was in my early teens at the
time, I still remember being surprised at the courage of both Freberg and
the radio stations that played it.

Al Cohen

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:05:44 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:19:25 -0400 (EDT)
k4lhb@[removed] (Thom Gooding)
>
>If memory serves,it was rumored that Clayton Moore had obtained the rights
>to the Lone Ranger.  He has passed on now and such rights may have
>transferred.  Another part of the rumor was that he had simply usurped the
>character in his later years because appearing as the LR was his only source
>of income.  Any  truth?
>

I'm sure someone else here (Bruce R?) will give a better answer, but as I 
recall, someone else held the rights to Lone Ranger including appearances
and was going to use someone other than Moore who basically lived the part.
He fought it in court and won the right to continue appearing as the Lone
Ranger. I do not know if he actually got rights to the show, only the
right to appear as the character.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          
AOL: JimWidner                            

                                                 

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:11:32 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cincinnati Convention
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Not sure if I will see any reply to this in time, but
I had not heard of any get together by members of this
list attending the convention. 

I will have a table (mainly to sell my book, but some lps and
some other items too), so if anyone knows of any get together,
let me know while you are there.

See ya at the [removed]

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          
AOL: JimWidner                            

                                                 

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:46:24 -0400
From: bkearns@[removed] (bkearns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Real Audio for Archiving
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I downloaded the first part of the Johnny Dollar episode from Jim Widner's
Home Page( Thanks Jim!) and listened to it off line using real audio [removed]
It took about 20 minutes to download the [removed] MB. file, but I got the entire
file without any drop outs.  I was thinking that Real Audio might be a good
and possibly inexpensive way to store and listen to OTR.  A half hour show
would be about 3 MB's.  An 850 MB disk drive which cost about $ 200 could
hold over 140 hours of OTR.  An even better method would be the CD-ROM
recorder which cost about $ 850 to $ 1,000.  Each CR-ROM at 650 MB could
hold about 125 hours of OTR.  The CD-ROM disk costs less than $ 10 dollars.
A tape back-up drive could also be used.  They are almost a necessary part
of a PC.  An 800 MB tape which costs $ 25 could hold about 130 hours.  You
would, however, have to transfer it to the hard drive in order to listen to
the shows.

The 2 major drawbacks are the quality of the sound & the cost of the recorder.  

The advantage of Real Audio is that it allows us to share some of our OTR
collections with each other, as Jim is doing.  Many Internet providers give
5 or 10 MB's of server space for user home pages.  

Anyone else have any thoughts on using Real Audio?

[removed] It works much better with a Pentium PC and at least 8 MB of memory.

Bill Kearns

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:13:01 PST
From: passage@[removed] (Frank M Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Theater Five and Lux Logs
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,

I sent both logs to Lou for inclusion on his site.  They were a little too big to post 
here.  

Frank

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Clayton Moore
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:19:25 -0400 (EDT)
> From: k4lhb@[removed] (Thom Gooding)
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: Lone Ranger Ownership
> Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
> 
> If memory serves,it was rumored that Clayton Moore had obtained the rights
> to the Lone Ranger.  He has passed on now and such rights may have
> transferred.  Another part of the rumor was that he had simply usurped the
> character in his later years because appearing as the LR was his only source
> of income.  Any  truth?
 
Passed on?  When was this?

What I heard was that Moore was making public appearances as the LR until 
the Wrather Corporation, when the movie was coming out, got a court order 
against him appearing anywhere in a mask like the LR's.  So he finally 
began using aviator sunglasses instead.  It resulted in a lot of bad 
publicity for Wrather, and after the movie bombed, they finally relented, 
and the order was dissolved.  I've never heard that he obtained rights to 
the character.

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:46:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 08:59:56 -0400
> From: Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]>
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: Re: Sgt. Persont's Square Inch
> Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
> 
> The offer was from 1954 when the program was broadcast on Mutual -- with
> Brace Beemer (the Lone Ranger ended production the prior season) in the
> title role.  Sponsor was Quaker Oats.

I believe it was ABC, not Mutual at that point.  

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:16:32
From: "Chester L. Cox" <ChetEL@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ellery Queen
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>>My late father, Manfred B. Lee, was co-author with his cousin 
>Frederic
>> Dannay of
>>the "Ellery Queen" detective novels. Both cousins wrote the 
>"Ellery Queen"
>>radio show. I have some original documents from that period 
>related to the
>> radio
>>show, but no scripts, alas, and no recordings; they vanished 
>mysteriously
>> about the
>>time of Dad's death (they were on huge old radio records).
>>
>>I would be grateful to hear from you or anyone interested either 
>in my
>> mother's or
>>my father's radio work.
>>
>>Yours sincerely,
>>Rand B. Lee
>>1306 Lujan Street
>>Santa Fe, NM 87505-3220
>>505-438-7038
>>randbear@[removed]
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
We most certainly -are- interested in any background on your 
parents' work!  Though I never heard any EQ radio shows until 
recently, one of my prizes of my collection is a WWII paperback (in 
large digest size with a blank cover) of "The Casebook of Ellery 
Queen" which, unlike later printings, included a radio script or 
two.  Years later, while trying to think of a name for our new 
daughter, we were watching an episode of the (then) new Ellery 
Queen TV show with Jim Hutton and David Wayne.  I wondered aloud 
why Ellery's radio secretary of Nicole (Nikki) hadn't been brought 
back -- and we had our name for our oldest kid!
>
>
Only a few months later, I was in deep debt to the OTHER person in 
the Ellery Queen duo-personality:  Frederic (sp?) Dannay.  I was 
recovering from a motorcycle accident (and looked remarkably like a 
Dick Sprang drawing of Two-Face, that marvelous Batman villian) and 
my wife brought me EVERY Ellery Queen book in our local library 
(going back to The Roman Hat Mystery and including billions of 
anthologies), and most of my EQ paperbacks and magazines.  These 
puzzles brought my mind back to orientation (it's amazing how 
stupid you become after a concussion and head surgery!).  During 
the latter part of my recovery, I dashed out a "thank you" to the 
magazine -- and received a hand-written (and LONG) reply from 
Frederic Dannay!  My, didn't my recovery speed along after _that_!


*jeep!

~~Chet-EL

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:48:19 +0000
From: John Mayer <johnmayer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Lost Yukon land
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

>From: Dan Hughes <dhughes@[removed]>
> Not too long ago, an article appeared somewhere that said the deeds
>to the square inches of land are worthless because Quaker Oats or >whoever
>ran the promotion failed to follow through with the necessary >paperwork,
>and all the land involved reverted to the original owner.

I believe it was a matter of unpaid taxes; the Crown can be very 
unforgiving in such things.

And now we seem to be in danger of losing every square inch of the 
Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 08:45:00 PDT
From: "Stringer, Norm" <stringen@[removed]>
To: "'[removed]@[removed]'" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Arch Oboler and thanks
Message-ID: <316E7C3B@[removed]>

 Hello [removed]

 To the gentlemen looking for information on Arch Oboler
 (Light's Out), you will find an article about him called "The
  Sound of Darkness - Arch Oboler's Lights Out -
 It's History on Radio and Television" in the Feb/Mar 1994
 issue of FILMFAX magazine (you should be able to find
 back issues at any book store, if not let me know).
 It's an excellent article they also include readable pages
 from Radio Guide that shows how some of the sounds were
 made, [removed] "Slashing a head of cabbage with a knife produces
 the sound of a human head being slashed or chopped off". The
 article is written by Gary Coville and Patrick Lucanio.

 Other articles in FILMFAX pertaining to radio that might be
 of interest to readers include:
 
 The Great Gildersleeve - The Bumbler's Silver Screen
  Adventures    (Mar/Apr 95)
 Behind Badge 714 (2 Parts) - The Inside Story of
  Jack Webb and Dragnet (radio and TV)
  (Aug/Sep 93)
 Voices of Terrer - Radio Whistlers and Shadows on the
  Silver Screen (June/July 94)

 Also, a note of thanks to the readers who responded to
 my request for THE LODGER information (hopefully I can
 pick it up tonight). From the readers who responded,
 both through the digest and privately, the conclusion is the
 Mystery on the Air with Peter Lorre is the [removed],
 again.

 Norm

 stringen@[removed]

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