Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #406
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Date: 10/17/2002 3:56 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 406
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Friends of Old Time Radio in WSJ      [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
      Will pay $ for a favor                [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      great writers on otr                  [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
      Warner Bros Ownership                 [ pamwarren2002@[removed] ]
      Re: dubs of 4-track r to r            [ "Matthew Bullis" <MatthewBullis@run ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      More on KFWB                          [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
      [removed]                        [ W4CU@[removed] ]
      Re: Roy Glenn                         [ "lizmcl@[removed]" <liz@cybercas ]
      Godfrey Talent redux                  [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
      [removed]                              [ "ASTON" <aston@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:36:53 -0400
    From: Kubelski@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Friends of Old Time Radio in WSJ

    I have it on good authority that the Thursday, October 17 issue of The Wall
    Street Journal will have a promotional brief on the Friends of Old Time Radio
    Convention, to be held at the Holiday Inn North in Newark, [removed] October
    24-27, in its Time-Outs and Diversions column.

    I'm not aware that the paper has ever covered FOTR before.  Another success
    for public relations.  Perhaps we'll pick up a corporate [removed]

    The WSJ's content is for subscribers only, so make sure you pick up a copy.

    Sean Dougherty
    Kubelski@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:41:03 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Will pay $ for a favor

    I have just received bad news this afternoon, it seems that a library that
    originally planned to do some photocopying for me on a copy machine has just
    changed their format.

    Seems I caught them at a bad time when their staff is down, and in order for
    them to perform my request, they will have to add a three-digit figure to my
    total to accomodate and even then, cannot guarentee having the job done
    before the end of the year - which I can't understand why as it would take
    me a couple hours to copy what is needed.

    So I'm checking to see if anyone on this digest wants the rare opportunity
    of copying the material for me, and I will reimburse them the copy fees and
    for their time.  (Not only will this serve as a solution to having the
    material sooner, but maybe save me money at the same time - have to keep the
    costs down, you know.)

    The material is VERY much Old Time Radio related, in fact, it's various
    pages of mail correspondence from radio writers and directors, unscripted
    plot summaries, cover sheets to radio scripts of radio shows that don't
    exist, and so on.

    The two libraries (yes, I'm having trouble with TWO libraries) is:
    Thousand Oaks Library in Thousand Oaks, California
    and
    Cecil H. Green Library at Stanford University at Stanford, California

    I will pay for copy fees and reimburse for you time and trouble.  If anyone
    lives within driving distance and knows they have free time to drive over
    and copy what I need (I can contact the libarrian and tell them to expect
    you so it will be very easy).

    Martin Grams, Jr.

    [removed]  Whoever takes on the job will get the pleasure of viewing and reading
    material you'll find VERY fascinating.  Won't be a waste of time, and it
    won't be boring, either.

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:41:12 -0400
    From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
    To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  great writers on otr

    Hello all:
    I have been waiting for this thread to pop up.  I've always felt that a
    show's best cornerstone is it's writer.  Here are a few good examples.
    Please forgive the misspellings.

    Les Crutchfield-  He did most of the great dramatic shows from Hollywood.
    He dramatized many famous stories for the early Escape shows, wrote for
    Gunsmoke in it's later years, and he was a major writer for the five-part
    Johnny Dollar series.  You can hear his name credited somewhere in almost
    every major dramatic show, including The Whistler, Suspense, Romance,
    Richard Diamond and The Man Called X.  Norman McDonnell and Jack Johnstone
    both described him as charming, funny and prolific, if undependable at
    times.

    E. Jack Newman-  He often wrote for Nightbeat, Escape, Suspense, Phillip
    Marlo and Sam Spade.  He wrote under the name of John Daweson for the
    five-part YTJD shows.  His scripts often had a moral theme and his
    characters were often complex.

    James E. Mosier-  This was the first major writer for Dragnet from 1949
    through 1951.  I believe he won the Edgar Allen Poe award for his writing at
    one point.  I prefer his style to his successor, Jack Robinson, who wrote
    for the second half of the series.

    Stanley Niss-  He dramatized cases for Gangbusters from the mid to late
    1940's.  When he wrote the scripts, the criminals took on more of a human
    quality, although they were still the bad guys.

    John Meston-  He basically built the Gunsmoke stories with his own hands.
    He was the story editor for the first year, then took over complete writing
    for the next four years or so.  If not for him, the series would not have
    lasted nearly as long as it did.

    Lucile Fletcher-  She is best known for her work on Suspense, penning such
    greats as, "Sorry, Wrong Number," "The Hitch-hiker," and "The Diary of
    Sufronia Winters."  She is a master of the twist ending.

    Ernest Kinoy and George Lefferts-  These two men were the main writers for
    Dimension X. and X. Minus One.  They adapted all of the stories from other
    writers and wrote some of their own originals.
    RyanO

    "Walking Alone and Marching Together."

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:41:59 -0400
    From: pamwarren2002@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Warner Bros Ownership

    Dear Elizabeth and Others Who Are Helping
    on This Warner Bros. Thing,

        I usually just read OTR Digest but the Warner Bros stations conversation
    has peaked my interest!
    In my search and research for the L. Ron Hubbard
    1951 radio broadcasts I found a station in
    Petaluma California owned by "Warner Bros."
    in 1951 and 1952.

        These "Warner Bros." are named Stafford W.
    Warner and Eugene Warner. They also owned a
    station in Oakland, California. Are these the
    same WB Warner Bros?

        My question is who did the Warner Bros.
    buy KAFP in Petaluma from and who did they
    sell it to? Anybody here got more data on this?
    I am still looking for the L. Ron Hubbard
    broadcast recordings and somebody that worked
    at KAFP in 1951 says that station aired them.

    Pam Warren
    L. Ron Hubbard's Public Relations Office

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:42:16 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <MatthewBullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: dubs of 4-track r to r

    Hello, try
    [removed]
    They handle not only what their name suggests but 8-track tapes, 16-inch
    transcriptions, and many more formats. They will do this for your personal
    use, so they won't keep the things you send them. I don't know about how
    good the work is, because I put my lp's on my hard drive if I need to. But,
    hopefully these people will be able to help.
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:42:23 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

>     >From Those Were The Days --

    1919 - The Radio Corporation of America (RCA) was formed. The company
    became a giant in electronics, especially radios and TVs. It would later
    own its own TV network (NBC) and other broadcast interests.

    1938 - This was a big day in Tinseltown. NBC moved to the corner of
    Sunset and Vine, the 'Crossroads of the World'. The new Hollywood Radio
    City drew thousands of visitors ready to fill studio-audience seats for
    popular radio programs.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:43:03 -0400
    From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  More on KFWB

>     KFWB was bought in 1950 by Crowell-Collier Broadcasting, which turned it
>     into a Top 40 station in the late fifties, and was sold to Westinghouse
>     in 1966, assuming its all-news format in 1968.
>     KFWB was the only station Warners ever owned.
>     Elizabeth

    Westinghouse was bought CBS in the 1990's, and changed the company's name
    to CBS Inc. Through a bunch of corporate "strategic partnerships" KFWB is
    now owned by CBS & Infinity & (somebody else). KNX Radio, the OTHER
    all-news station in Los Angeles, is also now controlled by Infinity; lord
    knows what corporate groups own them on paper.
    KFWB broadcasts "news updates" from CNN; KNX simulcasts CBS '60 Minutes' &
    '60 Minutes II' TV broadcasts. Neither station now claims to be better than
    its all-news competitor in its advertisements, since they're both in the
    same corporate family.

    Herb Harrison

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:47:39 -0400
    From: W4CU@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed]
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    What with all the names being linked to Arthur Godfrey, nobody seems to
    recognize his long-time partner (?) Jeanette Davis.  John Reinke

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:48:46 -0400
    From: "lizmcl@[removed]" <liz@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Roy Glenn

    On 10/16/02 10:41 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     Glenn was busy in motion pictures and television, as well as radio.  He
>     was a member
>     of both the radio and TV "stock companies" of Amos & Andy, and was in at
>     least 43
>     movies (per IMDB).  I'm confident that our Elizabeth can tell us more of
>     Mr. Glenn's
>     career.

    I've not been able to track down a lot of biographical data on Glenn
    other than that he was born in Kansas, and was in Hollywood doing bit
    movie roles by the late 1930s. His earliest major radio role that I've
    encountered was a bit part in the CBS docudrama "An Open Letter on Race
    Hatred," produced by William N. Robson in the wake of the Detroit race
    riots of 1943.

    Glenn joined the supporting cast of the half-hour "Amos 'n' Andy Show"
    during the 1947-48 season, and was a semi-regular for the rest of the
    program's run. He appeared in dozens of roles with A&A over the next
    eight years, usually as hardline authority figures -- business
    executives, detectives, FBI agents, judges, girlfriends' fathers, and the
    like. He occasionally played dialect parts, but most often his characters
    spoke deep, resonant Standard English. These sorts of roles continued in
    the A&A TV series, which allowed him to display one of the most withering
    glowers ever featured on screen.

    A&A was Glenn's passport to many other radio roles -- during the 1950s,
    he was an extremely busy actor at CBS, appearing in everything from Jack
    Benny to Johnny Dollar. One of his most interesting parts in this era is
    in an offbeat 1952 "Suspense" episode called "The Wreck of the Old 97,"
    which I highly recommend.

    Glenn also made some very fine movies -- his best roles were as "Rum" in
    the 1954 production of "Carmen Jones," and as the short-tempered
    postal-worker father of Sidney Poitier in "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner."
    He was also very busy in television during the 1950s and 1960s -- one of
    the few African-American actors to work regularly in TV during this
    period. Perhaps his most familiar TV work from this period are his
    appearances in the late-sixties version of "Dragnet."

>     I've heard that Glenn was the voice of Kelloggs' "Tony the Tiger" before
>     the role
>     went to Thurl Ravenscroft.  Does anyone known whether this is T or F ?

    There are those who swear this is true, and there are those who insist
    that Ravenscroft has always played the part. Glenn *did* have the right
    voice for the part -- but unless someone can produce documentation to
    prove it, it's a story that remains unverified.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:49:15 -0400
    From: leemunsick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Godfrey Talent redux

    Thanks to Michael Berger for his posting on the performing talents on the
    Arthur Godfrey programs at the turn of the last century (geez, that makes
    me feel old!)  Michael did very well.  Spelled Haleloke correctly, although
    he and everyone else neither recalls nor mentions her last name,
    Kahaoluopua.  I can't understand why.

    Carmel (with an L) Quinn was as Mike says, Irish, not Spanish.  I
    understand his use of "African-American" for the Mariners, but suspect most
    folk would think that meant all four were Negroes (terminology of the
    time).  For those who don't personally recall, this was a group originally
    gathered in the Coast Guard, which gave them a link to former USCG enlisted
    man Arthur Godfrey.  Over the years there were several replacements in the
    quartet, as one or the other left.   One became an ordained missionary
    minister, who retired a few years back.  But the identification of the four
    always remained two black men,  two [removed] of an Oreo with a
    double-dip hanger-on.  And all very talented, very nice guys.  They sold a
    lot of records over the years, including a lot of Gospel songs.

    But your point is very well taken, Michael!  It was a large group of
    talents, which exceeded in number any other program including Steve Allen's
    remarkable gang.  I'd guess that the Godfrey group, Steverino's zany crew
    and the pleasant group on Don McNeill's Breakfast Club combined could have
    started their own network, except that they were spread out over three!

    All those "little Godfreys" did add up, and there were guest stars on
    occasion as well.  By the way, Mr. Godfrey did not like to be called
    "Art".  He abhorred the term "Little Godfreys", thought it distinctly
    disrespectful and insulting to these talented folk.  It was laid on the
    media by CBS flacks, and stuck.

    Just as did "The Old Redhead", which Mr. Godfrey also detested, although
    I've never been able to discern exactly why.  It wasn't the "Old".  He was
    used to the Navy term "Old Man" for the CO, and I think he even relished
    being fondly and respectfully called that by "his kids".  He didn't
    especially object to "Redhead".  He had been a true carrot-top as a
    youngster, which grew into a handsome head of auburn hair in
    adulthood.  But somehow the two words together deeply annoyed and offended him!

    Even with Mr. Berger's listing of the Godfrey crew at the height of their
    shows, he didn't catch them all.   He did recall Haleloke, Frank Parker,
    Marion Marlowe, Carmel Quinn, The Mariners, The McGuire Sisters, and The
    Chordettes, an outstanding and award-winning female barber shop quartet
    from the national "Sweet Adelines" organization.  Their "Dutchey" way of
    speaking gave rise to their hit record "Dance Me Loose".  This was composed
    by the orchestra's organist and resident composer Lee Erwin, at the
    suggestion of Mr. Godfrey.  Lee went on to become world-famous theatre
    organist, traveling extensively for years until his passing about two years
    ago.

    We OTR fans should not forget veteran announcer and walking encyclopedia
    Tony Marvin.  George Brian usually did the honors on the "Talent Scouts"
    show, occasionally on the others when Tony was on hiatus.  And all those
    incredible musicians, every one of whom had an enviable musical
    history.  The band included arranger, big band sideman, composer, etc.  It
    is little known that in addition to outstanding arrangements by leader
    Archie Bleyer, orchestral workups were provided by a substantial group of
    publicly anonymous but highly gifted and respected arrangers, among them
    Neal Hefti.

    Back to the performers:  late in that period there was Pat Boone, and still
    later Johnny Nash.  We should recall cute girl singer Lu Ann Sims.  Sultry
    gal Janette Davis.  Early on in that period, there was the boy singer Bill
    Lawrence (still doing cruise ship entertainment from Florida).  He was
    drafted by Uncle Sam, and his place taken [removed], let me [removed] yes, I
    think his name was Julius something.  But then most people don't recall
    anything about him.  Cough.

    No disrespect intended in any of [removed] a little humor to relieve the
    unbearable tension.

    All the best to all you fellow Memory Trippers!   Lee Munsick from the
    drought belt in southern Virginia.

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:49:41 -0400
    From: "ASTON" <aston@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  [removed]
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    Several have been asking and some replying as to the title of the last Yours
    Truly, Johnny Dollar Episode  The Title of the last Episode broadcast
    Septemebr 30, 1962 is "The Tip-Off Matter"  This is the name that appears on
    the script.  I did the research for a Johnny Dollar Log several years ago
    using CBS scripts and the Thousand Oaks Library script collection

    The second question about Johnny Dollar referred to the Date Secember 24, 1961
    This would be the 27th broadcast of [removed] with Mandel Kramer as Johnny
    Dollar.  The show was pre-empted by the Bing Crosby Christmas Special.  As far
    as I have been able to find out, the Johnny Dollar epsiode that would been
    scheduled for that date was broadcast later, most likely the following week.

    Don Aston
    avpro@[removed]

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