Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #211
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Date: 6/9/2002 3:03 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 211
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Today in radio history 6/8            [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Cinnamon Bear mystery                 [ "Elizabeth Minney" <epminney@wcsonl ]
      OTR sports broadcasts                 [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
      One Man's Family                      [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
      RE: Distinctive voices                [ FKELLY <fkelly@[removed]; ]
      remember "a thousand clowns"?         [ leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass ]
      Voicetracking defined                 [ FKELLY <fkelly@[removed]; ]
      Time Compression                      [ "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet. ]
      Latter-day Dragnet                    [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Re: Baseball play-by-play men         [ Rob Spencer <rfspencer@[removed]; ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE      [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Baseball                              [ Tony Baechler <tony@[removed]; ]
      Distinctive voices                    [ neil crowley <og@[removed]; ]
      Various topics                        [ Jerry <xfyles@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 16:43:19 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history  6/8

      From Those Were The Days --

    1942 - The comic soap opera Clara, Lu and Em was revived on CBS (the
    original show began in 1931 on NBC). Clara, Lu and Em were together
    again for just a short while before vanishing into radio oblivion.

    1947 - Lassie debuted on ABC. It was a 15-minute show about an
    extraordinary collie. Animal imitator, Earl Keen provided the whines and
    other dog noises. The announcer was Charles Lyon; Marvin Miller and
    Betty Arnold played Lassie’s owners. The sponsor was Red Heart dog food.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 20:51:26 -0400
    From: "Elizabeth Minney" <epminney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cinnamon Bear mystery

>     Thanks  to John Mayer for reviving one of radio's great mysteries. Who
>     played Jimmy Barton on "The Cinnamon Bear?"  The Cinnamon Bear Brigade
>     has had one or two leads, but they have trailed nowhere

    Dennis Crow wrote a nice posting about this mystery.  Why doesn't
    someone try voice analysis?  Don't they have equipment that can analyze
    voices as definitively as fingerprinting?  Elizabeth Minney

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 20:52:03 -0400
    From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR sports broadcasts

        Cliff Martin brought up the subject of OTR sports on the Digest
    ("Joltin' Joe & radio").

        A few months ago the subject of OTR boxing broadcasts was discussed on
    the Digest.

        As a kid in Chicago in the '40s I listened to play-by-play radio
    broadcasts of Cubs baseball games and Bears football games by dramatic Bert
    Wilson (station WIND, about 1945-1955) and to White Sox baseball games by
    undramatic Bob Elson. Also to Elson doing the final period of Black Hawks
    games (National Hockey League, when there were only six teams).

        I've tried many sources to try to find recordings of such broadcasts by
    Wilson and by 1945--1955 Elson; nothing has turned up.
    Would any Digesters know if any such recordings exist???   Thanks.

      -- Phil C.

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 20:51:52 -0400
    From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  One Man's Family

    Many, many thanks to Chris Chandler, Gerry Wright, Mike Sprague of the "One
    Man's Family Family" at [removed] and especially Dr.
    H. Edwin Titus for supplying date and exact title information for the list
    of "One Man's Family" programs I posted here recently. I look forward to
    seeing many of you at the upcoming Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound
    Showcase at the end of the month and hope to thank you in person as well.

    The Archives has just released a collection of 21 episodes of "One Man's
    Family" - including four recently discovered and uncirculated shows - all
    on audio CDs and all from original 16" transcription disks. For further
    information, please visit our website and request a free subscription to
    our newsletter.

    Thanks again --

    Harlan

    Harlan Zinck
    First Generation Radio Archives
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 22:56:53 -0400
    From: FKELLY <fkelly@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE: Distinctive voices

    My vote goes to House Jameson, Henry Aldrich's father.  I remember too
    seeing him on television (what show?) and unlike most radio
    personalities he "looked like" his voice.

    Frank Kelly
    Pittsburgh PA 15228-2407

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 22:57:09 -0400
    From: leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  remember "a thousand clowns"?

    the jason robards character and his nephew also do imitations of people
    who lived pre sound recording days

    [removed]

                                                                             peace

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 23:17:52 -0400
    From: FKELLY <fkelly@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Voicetracking defined

    To Lee and all others with some interest in today's radio:
    "Voice tracking" refers to the practice of having a disc jockey record
    all of the announcements and patter of a music show without playing the
    actual tunes.  Obviously someone who is good at this can do a four hour
    music show in a half hour or less.  To air the show, a studio engineer
    (or a computer) inserts the voicetracks between the music tracks.
    Lee, you have probably heard a voicetracked show without realizing it.
    I suspect that most of the satellite-delivered syndicated formats heard
    today are voicetracked.
    Obviously, Clear Channel and other managements are in love with a
    technique that gets four hours of programming from the "talent" for a
    half hour of work (and pay).
    --
    Frank Kelly
    Pittsburgh PA 15228-2407
    Email: fkelly@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 23:44:43 -0400
    From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Time Compression

    Stephen Jansen brought up the process of time compression, where computers
    speed up audio by deleting fragments of [removed] this practice is
    widespread and now is also being used in television, believe it or not!

    Several years ago, WABC was caught squeezing its most popular program, the
    syndicated political talker, Rush Limbaugh. The "Cash Machine," if used at
    maximum could squeeze up to five six minutes out of an hour of radio. For
    the complete story: [removed]

    Its video equivalent is called the time machine. There are 30 "frames" in
    each second of NTSC video. The computer looks at each frame and the frame
    after it. If there is not enough difference, the duplicate frame is thrown
    out. KDKA television used it to add 1 :30 second spot to each hour of CBS'
    feed of their beloved Steelers NFL games. Needless to say, the network and
    the league were both upset. To add insult to injury KDKA is a CBS-owned
    property. [removed]

    Other stations have been caught doing it because of hand-held devices that
    allow viewers to play along with popular syndicated game shows. The devices
    get their information from a digital signal placed in the vertical interval
    of a broadcast (If you roll the picture on an old television set you can see
    it). But when you drop frames and compress the show this screws up the
    digital info needed to drive the hand-held units. One devoted "Jeopardy" fan
    returned his unit and was given a new one. When that one wouldn't work the
    manufacturer (Wink Communications) and the syndicator (King World - now
    CBS/Viacom) investigated and took the broadcaster to task.

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    Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 00:51:40 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Latter-day Dragnet

>     Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:15:06 -0400
>     From: "Elizabeth Minney" <epminney@[removed];
>     What do you mean, "latter-day Dragnet?"  Where does one find this
>     reworking of the Big Baby Jesus episode?  And who is Dick Wolf?

    The original Dragnet series came to an end in 1959, by which time Joe Friday had made
    lieutenant.  The show was revived in January 1967 as "Dragnet 67," and later "Dragnet 68,"
    etc. until it ended in 1970.  It again featured Jack Webb as Sgt. Joe Friday (Never explaining
    his reduction in rank) and harry Morgan as his partner, Officer Bill Gannon.  The later series
    is what is usually rerun these days, since it was in color.  I believe the "Baby Jesus" story
    may have been re-made.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 01:14:22 -0400
    From: Rob Spencer <rfspencer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Baseball play-by-play men

    Clif Martin wrote:

>     Ernie Harwell may be the last of the great ones.
>     Fans in other parts of the country will no doubt
>     offer other names.

    Vin Scully, the Dodgers' No. 1 play-by-play man, must be included in any
    discussion of great baseball announcers, current and all-time.

    Humbly submitted,

    Rob Spencer

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    Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 02:21:38 -0400
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE

    Here;s the program lineup for the week starting Sunday, June 9th at:
    [removed]        Programs are in high-end streaming audio and
    change weekly on Sundays.

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
    A Salute to SUSPENSE
    1. SUSPENSE - FORECAST  SHOW  - Audition 7/22/40  "The Lodger"
    2. SUSPENSE - 7/22/40  1st show -  "The Burning Court"
    3. SUSPENSE - 7/13/44   "The Beast Must Die"
    4. SUSPENSE - 8/30/55   "The Lady In The Red Hat"

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
    1. ACADEMY AWARD THEATRE   CBS   10/30/46  "Suspicion"  stars
        Cary Grant and Ann Todd in the chilling Alfred Hitchcock tale.
    2. ADV. OF BULLDOG DRUMMOND   MBS   1956   "The Linda Bennett Case"
    3. COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL with BILL STERN     NBC    Dec. 1946
        with Guest: Eddie Cantor

    Enjoy -    Tom & Jerry

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    Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 03:02:18 -0400
    From: Tony Baechler <tony@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Baseball

    Hello.  Since the discussion of contemporary baseball narrators got
    started, here is my addition.  Thanks to a set of CDs I got from the First
    Generation Radio Archives, I have a baseball roundtable from 1956 to fight
    cancer.  One of the participants was NY Yankees player Jerry Coleman.  He
    is still alive and broadcasting for the San Diego Padres, which is my local
    team.  It is nice to still be able to hear him.  He sounded much younger in
    1956.

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    Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:46:45 -0400
    From: neil crowley <og@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Distinctive voices

    I didn't think I'd be drawn into this one because OTR was so crowded with
    distinctive voices that choosing some leaves out too many. But there are
    two I can still hear without tape, or MP3, who haven't been mentioned yet -
    Penny Singleton and House Jameson.

    Penny Singleton's high soprano was sweetly sexy when Blondie was
    manipulationg Dagwood but she could cut steel when she put an edge on it.

    House Jameson's pontifical Mr Aldrich ("Now, [removed]") was perfectly cast
    but he had a wider acting range than his role as the last honest lawyer
    might lead you to believe. On some Jungle Jim episodes he can be heard in
    multiple accents, and be effective in each, but that distinctive voice
    always gives him away. He shared one of Arthur Godfrey's best attributes -
    his diction was so clear he could be understood through a summer storm's
    static.

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    Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:47:35 -0400
    From: Jerry <xfyles@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Various topics

    500,000 Watts: A few digests ago there was discussion regarding a station
    broadcasting at 500,000 watts. I'm all thumbs when it comes to radio-tech.
    How did this differ from say 50,000 watts?  [removed] it provide greater
    range? More "bandwidth" on the dial? Drown out other stations? Louder?

    Distinctive voices: How'bout King? [removed]
    appropriately leads to my next [removed]

    MP3: I have mega-o-ton's of MP3's,why not there free. :) However I have yet
    to hear an MP3 as good sounding as a well restored show on CD, such as what
    First Gen Radio Archives provides. They are first class in my book,highly
    recommended. I have ordered from Ted Davenport's Radio Memories and was more
    than pleased. There is an Ebay dealer offering great cassettes of  Magic Key
    programs, special shows and more.  In the end the "I want it all free" crowd
    will lose out cause they'll miss out on some incredibly interesting
    programs.

    Books: I have a number of OTR books,including the "cinder block"...Dunning's
    Encyclopedia of  Old-Time Radio . Just finished Jim Harmons's Great Radio
    Heroes wonderful read. Next up is Mary Jane Higby's "Tune in Tomorrow". I
    picked up both of these Ace paperback at a flea market for a quarter a
    piece! I have another book entitled "There's Laughter in the Air" written by
    Jack Gaver and Dave Stanley copyright 1945. A neat book that covers the
    radio comedians of the day. Fred Allen,Jack Benny,Amos and Andy,Joan
    Davis,Fanny Brice and many more. Each chapter is devoted to one comedian and
    features stories,etc. At the end of each chapter is a condensed script of a
    show. Neat book.  Are there any other good book recommendations out there?

    That will be enough rambling from me.:) A quick thanks to Charlie and all
    the contributors.

    Thanks,
    Jerry White

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