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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 60


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Welles vs Hearst Oscar nominated
	 Sam 'n' Henry
	 Re: Intro, Question, Challenge, Info
	 The anti side of the coin
	 radio spirits online
	 Sound bites that bite back
	 scary challange
	 Scare your socks [removed]
	 Invention
	 Re: Fran Stryker Jr. book
	 It's a joke, son!
	 Rare Fibber McGee & Molly Recording
	 Wellesian Ego
	 Grand Old Opry
	 Scary OTR, "Theater of the Mind," and Orson Welles
	 Land of the Lost (Red Lantern)
	 Hats Off Gentlemen, A genious
	  Hats Off Gentlemen, A Genius

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Date: 13 Feb 96 16:37:00 -0500
From: amo@[removed] (Arlene M Osborne +1 +1 508 960 6273)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Welles vs Hearst Oscar nominated
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I just read the list of Oscar nominations and the American
Experience program that aired on A&E (and has been recently
discussed here) has been nominated:


                             [The Envelope Please]

                          68th Annual Academy Awards®

                            Nominations by Category

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Best Documentary (Feature)

     ANNE FRANK REMEMBERED A Jon Blair Film Company Limited Production
     Jon Blair, Producer
     THE BATTLE OVER CITIZEN KANE A Lennon Documentary Group Production for The
     American Experience
     Thomas Lennon and Michael Epstein, Producers
     FIDDLEFEST - Roberta Guaspari-Tzavara and Her East Harlem Violin Program A
     Four Oaks Foundation Production
     Allan Miller and Walter Scheuer, Producers
     HANK AARON: CHASING THE DREAM A TBS Production
     Mike Tollin, Producer
     TROUBLESOME CREEK: A MIDWESTERN A West City Films, Inc. Production
     Jeanne Jordan and Steven Ascher, Producers

Arlene Osborne amo@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:37:39 -0600
From: "Paul A. Winders" <pwinders@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Sam 'n' Henry
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Reading this thread reminds me that somewhere in the
basement among the 9,000 or so 78's is a record. I forget
the title, but on the label is says "Corell & Godsen"
"WGN 9:00PM"

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:51:27 -0600
From: lgenco@[removed] (Louis Genco)
To: ERICKZIN@[removed], otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Intro, Question, Challenge, Info
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

In a recent issue of the OTR Digest, Carl <ERICKZIN@[removed]> asked:

>I would really like to know what everybody thinks are the top 10 scare off
>your socks, make you really think, thriller OTR shows?      

Such a list is (thanks to Randy Minnehan and other readers of the OTR
Digest) located at my web site, but additions are always welcome.

I guess it is time yet again to invite new readers to look at the various
OTR web sites whose webmasters maintain nuggets (nay, troves!) of
information for both newbies and non-newbies.

Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 20:02:46 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The anti side of the coin
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Seeing as how people are talking about Welles again.

At the risk of incurring accusations of sacrilage from some corners, let me
say this. Orson Welles was NOT the best Shadow. Bret Morrison and Bill
Johnstone both beat him out. The only Shadow voice Welles bests is John
Archer. Listen to some of his shows. Welles could have phoned in his part.

There. I said it and I'm glad. Glad, do you hear me? Glad, Glad, GLAD!

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 07:55:36 +0500
From: cbholm@[removed] (c holm)
To: ptr@[removed]
Cc: scotthooker@[removed]
Subject: radio spirits online
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

  In response about the different, machine readable formats for radio
spirits [removed] I don't know if they have a downloadable catalogs, but
they do have library of congress (4-track) tape and ASCII format diskette
versions of their catalog.  You can call them at 1-800-723-4648 for more info.

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 20:04:02 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Sound bites that bite back
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The trouble with you people is that you're all adults. Not enough of you
have a corner of your heart where you're still ten years old.

"Hi Yo Silver!" "Gettum up Scout!"

A clock tolls twelve ominously: "Captain Mid-Niiight!"

"Wave the flag for Hudson High, Boys!.........."

A gong clashes, jibber-jabbering sing-song voices:
 "Terry and the Pirates!"

"Take a tip from Tom, go and tell your [removed]"

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's SUPERMAN!!!!"

These are the sound-bites that made childhood thrilling and vibrant. These
are what fired the imagination. And, God help me, I can't resist para-
phrasing, "Er, these are what dreams are made of."

Not taglines from some wimpy comedian, not cutesy poo commercials. But the
stuff of blood and thunder. We rode the high road to adventure. And it was
sound bites like these that stirred the blood of us then and can still make
the chills run up and down my spine.

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:05:06 +0500
From: cbholm@[removed] (c holm)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: scary challange
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In response to Carl's challange about the top 10 thriller OTR shows, I would
like to offer a couple of suggestions:
'Three Skeleton Key' (of course) -- the Escape version
'House in Cypress Canyon' -- Suspense
'Ordeal in Donner Pass' -- Suspense
'Donovan's Brain' -- Suspense

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 20:22:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Scare your socks [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>I would really like to know what everybody thinks are the top 10 scare off
>your socks, make you really think, thriller OTR shows? 
>

I still think two of the scariest for me (especially if you listen in the dark)
are two Lights Out episodes.  The first, as I recall, is called Mr. Maggs.  It 
deals with a house and a trunk upstairs.  Separately, different people go up the
stairs only to scream and not be heard from again.  The only man left at one
point
suddenly hears the trunk oh so slowly, start sliding down the stairs,
step-by-step.
The man in rising fear describes it coming down.  Lots of quiet moments
side-by-side
with the sound [removed] effective scare!

The second one is similar in that two secretaries working for Mr. Oboler
stay late to
finish a script.  Slowly, the lights start going [removed] in the dark, the
desks seem
to start moving closer and [removed] driving the women out of their
minds.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:24:19 -0800 (PST)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Invention
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Those who have researched technology have come up with an American
patent on ultrasonic bias dating to 1926. My father-in-law had a patent
on a frost free fridge in the 1930s. But the economics of the time kept
either of these patents from being exploited while they were in force. Many
of the patents related to the vcr are held by American companies. But
none of them were willing to spend the hundred million needed to reduce
it to a reliable product. 
Brains are pretty well distributed around the globe. But the courage to 
actually develop and market a product is another thing entirely.
In the 1930s there was a Japanese scientist who independently developed
all the major features of the television system being developed at RCA.
I admire the Germans for coming up with a functioning tape recorder and
then improving upon it. All of the tape machines in the US can be traced
to the Magnetophone. Oddly enough it was never classified and so we didn't
know about it until the war was nearly over.

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:26:32 -0500
From: JerryR8067@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Fran Stryker Jr. book
Message-ID: <960213222631_321443681@[removed]>

Last address I had for the Fran Striker Jr. book called: His Typewriter Grew
[removed] a biography of Fran Striker-- witer.

Questco
[removed] Box 832
Lansdale, PA  19446

The book was copyright 1983, so may be out of print.  Good luck!

Jerry Reed (Jerryr8067@[removed])

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 21:51:10 -0500
From: LordLyndon@[removed]
To: rrb@[removed]
Subject: It's a joke, son!
Message-ID: <960213215110_321401535@[removed]>

Responding rather belatedly to David Kilcrease's question about a possible
Senator Claghorn movie. In 1947 Delmar made a film called "It's a Joke, Son"
featuring the Claghorn character. June Lockhart and Una Merkel were also in
the picture.

And speaking of which, I have been looking for an affordable copy of this
film for years.  I saw it about ten years ago in budget format ($[removed] or so)
in a sale bin at Woolworth's and passed it up. I've have also seen it
advertised in the Video Yesteryear catalog for $[removed] or something outrageous
like that.  Have never found in any other format.

If anyone knows of any listing offering this film, please post for us.
Thanks.

LordLyndon@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 23:31:04 -0500
From: SupDaveTV5@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Rare Fibber McGee & Molly Recording
Message-ID: <960213233101_321516169@[removed]>

Hi members. I recently discovered in my local antique shop a set of 78
records of Fibber McGee & Molly "The Night Before Christmas".  This record
set is 3 records, and show very little wear.  Is there anyone out there that
can tell me about them or would like to buy them.  When I was in Chicago at
the Radio Hall of Fame. I found the same set in the museums display case.  

thanks
dave

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 23:51:29 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Wellesian Ego
Message-ID: <960213235128_221641956@[removed]>

   In the discussions about Orson Welles and the appelation "world's youngest
has-been," it was mentioned that he had his successes early and his luck ran
out.  Yes, there were Hearst pressures, etc., but I think much of it was his
own doing.  Yes, he was a genius in his way and boy, did he know it!!!
  I have a tape that demonstrates his belief in his own infallibility.
 Welles is recording a commercial, or trying to, and several glitches
develop.  Finally, a voice on the intercom from the control room makes a
suggestion.  There's a pause and  Welles says in his stentorian tones, "You
DARE tell ME how to READ!"  The embarrassment of the ensuing silence is
almost palpable.  Finally, Welles [removed] and there is the
sound of paper being crumpled in apparent anger and Welles mutters, "This is
a piece of s___!!!"
   So, before we go too far with analysis, it's probably best to remember
that Welles' ego was as big or bigger than  he was and that is a condition
that can get in the way of [removed] sort of speed bump on the road of
achievement.

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 96 00:01
From: "bill harris" <billhar@[removed]>
To: "otr digest" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Grand Old Opry
Message-Id: <m0tmZTq-000YQ6C@[removed]>

I am looking for a tape of a Grand Old Opry show, a program from 
the 1930's if possible. I have scanned my catalogs and can't 
seem to find any tapes offered. Anyone out there no if such exists?
Please e-mail me if so. 

Thanks,
Bill Harris
billhar@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 96 22:45:08 PST
From: <rdruian@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Scary OTR, "Theater of the Mind," and Orson Welles
Message-ID: <[removed]+bdM6lB@[removed]>

I was finally provoked to send a comment by the request for opinions about 
the scariest OTR. For me, the answer to that question has as much to do with 
context as with programming.  Imagine a cold, foggy night, October 31, 1977 
or 1978, central Washington somewhere east of the Columbia on US2, first time 
on that road, about 6:05PM, pitch black out except for the fog droplets 
reflecting on the headlights. The road has been straight as an arrow for mile 
after mile, when there is suddenly a "winding road" sign and a 15 mph speed 
limit. The road suddenly starts turning every which way and descends into a 
black hole (which I later found out was either Moses Coulee or Grand Coulee) 
and the radio is on. I twist the dial to avoid the heavy rock and finally 
settle on a station playing some innocuous 'thirties-ish music that seems 
like the least offensive I could find. The music suddenly stops and an 
announcer interrupts the program with an announcement about strange craft 
landing in Grovers' Mill, NJ.  Now *that* was the freakiest thing I ever 
heard, including the original "Chicken Heart."

Which reminds me that when I lived in eastern Washington back in the 
'seventies, there was an OTR program hosted by someone named Tom Reid, and he 
called the program "Theater of the Mind." Does anyone out in the great NW 
know if either he or the program still exist out there???

And it also reminds me of the recent PBS special about the intersection of 
Orson Welles and William Randolph Hearst. I guess it had been common 
knowledge for some, but I was surprised to find that Welles really did do a 
sever hatchet job on Marion Davies. I hadn't known about the many parallels 
between Welles' characterization and Ms. Davies (both of whom did similar 
jigsaw puzzles, for example). To depict the rather talented Davies as a total 
lamebrain and drunk was unnecessarily cruel, and I tend to agree with the 
opinion that Welles did so solely to get Hearst's dander up.

When put into the context of Welles' stunt on the "War of the Worlds" 
broadcast, where he had the Martians land just as the commercial was expected 
to begin on a competing network, when listeners would be most likely to be 
station-surfing . . .     

Hmmmm, it seems Welles was quite a piece of work. And I agree that he was a 
genius, btw. It makes me wonder what he could have accomplished had he chosen 
to work within the system (considering my own past history, I'm rather 
ashamed to have written that last statement, but after all, I was just 
musing).

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 07:32:40 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwaves <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Land of the Lost (Red Lantern)
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

	There was a mention of a Red Lantern TV show in a recent issue.
The radio version was like a cartoon soundtrack.  A woman sounding like Mae
Questal (possibly it was her) was in most of the shows, which starred Art 
Carney as the undersea guide of Bob & Betty in The land of the Lost, where
all lost things go. There were usually a few songs per episode by the 
whole cast of cartoon voices, and lots of puns. The show was on around 1947.
	I know of five surviving episodes, including "Knives of the Square
Table" with Billy's lost penknife Jack, "Flying Fish Squadron", "Mike the 
Pike and Kid Squid", "The Lost Game Preserve", etc.
	The show was written and narrated by Isabel Manning Jewel (if 
memory serves).  There was also a comic book of the show, and I've seen one
cartoon, as well.  Are there others?  Was the TV show live action, 
puppets, or what?  I can't imagine it being any good on TV.
	-Max Schmid

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 07:55:30 -0500
From: Dreammac@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: Dreammac@[removed]
Subject: Hats Off Gentlemen, A genious
Message-ID: <960214075528_422212452@[removed]>

Mr. Blatt writes:

It was mentioned here last time that Orson Welles (in an A & E Biography) was
referred to as "the youngest has-been"

You obviously have not seen the late Welle's masterpiece, Chimes At Midnight.
His performance as actor (Falstaff), writer and producer-director is an
artistic tour de force of sheer brilliance. His Don Quixote and Othello are
supposedly comparable in quality to his Chimes At Midnight as well. Othello
has also been referred to as a masterpiecel. An incredible track record
considering he put these films together with spit, bubble gum and  money he
scratched-up from wherever he could.



Mr. Henley writes:

In his 40s, he still managed to make
a couple of movies which are clearly the work of a unique talent.

How generous  to characterize Orson Welles as a unique talent. He was simply
the most original and creative talent who ever worked in the American
theater. He was the most original and inventive talent ever to work in radio.
He was far and away the most original, creative and inventive force in the
history of film. Citizen Kane is the ne plus ultra of film making. It is
overwhelmingly recognized as the greatest film ever made, period!  

Jack Benny was unique, but Welles was simply from another galaxy in
comparison. And that goes for everyone else in the field of otr or indeed all
of entertainment. The only one within a few parsecs away was Chaplin. I'm
always amazed at the myopia and grudging respect that the titans of
creativity such as Frank Lloyd Wright and Orson Welles have had to endure by
the cultural lilliputians of our society. One of the greatest and most
distinguished  producers who ever worked in American theater and film, John
Houseman, who either knew personally or was acquainted with every figure of
note in these professions stated: "Orson Welles was the only genious ever
produced in America in the entire history of entertainment." I second that,
in spades! 

Peace, David MacMurray

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:03:03 -0500
From: Dreammac@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: Dreammac@[removed]
Subject:  Hats Off Gentlemen, A Genius
Message-ID: <960214080302_143848297@[removed]>

Disregard previous version with spelling errors.

In a message dated 96-02-14 07:55:38 EST, you write:

 
Mr. Blatt writes:

>It was mentioned here last time that Orson Welles (in an A & E >Biography)
was
>referred to as "the youngest has-been"

You obviously have not seen the late Welle's masterpiece, Chimes At Midnight.
His performance as actor (Falstaff), writer and producer-director is an
artistic tour de force of sheer brilliance. His Don Quixote and Othello are
supposedly comparable in quality to his Chimes At Midnight as well. Othello
has also been referred to as a masterpiecel. An incredible track record
considering he put these films together with spit, bubble gum and  money he
scratched-up from wherever he could.



Mr. Henley writes:

>In his 40s, he still managed to make
>a couple of movies which are clearly the work of a unique talent.

How generous  to characterize Orson Welles as a unique talent. He was simply
the most original and creative talent who ever worked in the American
theater. He was the most original and inventive talent ever to work in radio.
He was far and away the most original, creative and inventive force in the
history of film. Citizen Kane is the ne plus ultra of film making. It is
overwhelmingly recognized as the greatest film ever made, period!  

Jack Benny was unique, but Welles was simply from another galaxy in
comparison. And that goes for everyone else in the field of otr or indeed all
of entertainment. The only one within a few parsecs away was Chaplin. I'm
always amazed at the myopia and grudging respect that the titans of
creativity such as Frank Lloyd Wright and Orson Welles have had to endure by
the cultural lilliputians of our society. One of the greatest and most
distinguished  producers who ever worked in American theater and film, John
Houseman, who either knew personally or was acquainted with every figure of
note in these professions stated: "Orson Welles was the only genius ever
produced in America in the entire history of entertainment." I second that,
in spades! 

Peace, David MacMurray

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