Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #204
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 6/16/2004 12:15 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 204
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Performers in politics            [ "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed]. ]
      Of pizza rolls and Reagan             [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
      MLT cookbooks                         [ Danica Stein <danicas@[removed]; ]
      Articles of Note                      [ seandd@[removed] ]
      6-16 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Mt. Carmel's Lone Ranger Radio Days   [ "Phil Stallings" <redryder@midwest. ]
      Wendell Corey                         [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
      Jiminy Cricket - Encyclopedia song    [ Art Chimes <achimes@[removed]; ]
      Re: Performers who went into politic  [ Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; ]
      Re: amateur hour programs             [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      "Orphaned" works                      [ "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed]; ]
      Re: politicians guest appearances     [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Re: Durabrand CD-208 MP3 Player       [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      Cleaning out the closet               [ "D. Fisher" <dfisher@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Arnold Michaelis, Insight, and Ronal  [ "J. Alec West" <OTR@[removed]; ]
      news coverage on radio                [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Sky Captain and the World of OTR      [ John Olsen <jrolsen@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:06:35 -0400
    From: "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Performers in politics

    D. Fisher sez:

>     George Murphy, song & dance man & actor, on radio & in the movies, became

    a

>     Senator from California.

    Lulubelle Wiseman (of Lulubelle & Skyland Scotty, on the WLS National Barn
    Dance) served several terms in the North Carolina state legislature, from
    her hometown of Spruce Pine, NC.

    Joe Cline ([removed])

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:07:44 -0400
    From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Of pizza rolls and Reagan

    I am surprised that nobody has mentioned this recording during these past
    two weeks.  Tying together three recent threads: comic strip characters on
    OTR (Batman), the Lone Ranger pizza rolls TV commercial (Stan Freberg), and
    future politicians on OTR (Ronald Reagan)--please don't forget the
    wonderfully insightful recording that was included on Stan Freberg's album
    "Underground Radio Show No. 1"  Capitol T/ST 2551 "Shaft Theater: The
    Flackman and Reagan."

    While I am here, someone questioned whether there really was a Lark
    Cigarettes commercial that had used the William Tell Overture finale.  Yes,
    and it even had "lyrics."  "Have a Lark, have a Lark, have a Lark today . .
    ." etc.  The Jeno's ad "Show us your pizza rolls pack" was a take-off on
    the Lark ad that had people driving thru town with large signs "Show Us
    Your Lark Pack."  This ad was notable at its time for having gone
    COMPLETELY over the head of all of the censors on the different networks
    and stations who somehow had never heard the expression about
    exhibitionists showing their lark.  That is the reason why the signs in the
    ads (which were also featured in print ads and billboards) asked to show us
    your Lark PACK.  (By the way, no beads were harmed during the filming of
    the commercials.)

    Oh, and to tie these two threads together, just as cigarette ads are now
    banned from American broadcasting, so was "The Flackman and Reagan" banned
    from California broadcasting during the 1966 governor campaign.  It was
    because it would have triggered Section 315 equal opportunity issues for
    any station that aired it.  There wasn't any legislative action
    specifically against it, it was just known that the Reagan campaign would
    have asked for equal opportunity on any station heard in California which
    aired it.

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:12:17 -0400
    From: Danica Stein <danicas@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  MLT cookbooks

    I have some, acquired inexpensively on eBay. I collect cookbooks, and
    am a great FM&M fan also. The back side of the cookbook usually
    advertises the FM&M program and/or other programs as well. Pretty cool.

    As you can imagine, the recipes--Pet Milk plays an important role,
    naturally--are very 50's-ish: Macaroni Loaf with Creamed Tuna, Prune
    Whip, Rarebit Rice Ring, Fruit Tapioca, Frankfurter Dinner, Mock
    Chicken Patties. On the other hand, there are some surprisingly
    modern-sounding recipes that I might even like to try sometime.

    I would also like to know if there are any MLT programs in circulation.
    According to the ad on the back of the cookbook, "Radio's Favorite Food
    Expert," Mary Lee Taylor, could be heard every Saturday morning on NBC;
    see your local newspaper for station and time. I wonder if it was an
    actual half-hour show, or a shorter filler-type thing.  There was a
    "Recipe of the Week" and a "Story of the Week." From the little promos
    at the end of some FM&M shows, I gather that the "Story of the Week"
    was usually a soap-opera sort of thing geared toward the audience of
    housewives.

    Danica

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:37:42 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Articles of Note

    Following are a press release from Jell-O honoring Bill Cosby that also
    mentions Jack Benny and Lucille Ball as well as a review of "Say Goodnight
    Gracie" from the Rocky Mountain News in Denver.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    BILL Cosby Honored
    LeRoy Pennysaver - LeRoy,NY,USA
    ... Vintage radio recordings from Jack Benny and Lucille Ball will be
    showcased,
    along with many television commercials featuring Andy Griffith, Jim Nabors,
    Paul ...
    <[removed];

    GREAT pretender
    Rocky Mountain News - Denver,CO,USA
    ... Written by Rupert Holmes, the one-man show puts Burns in a sort of
    limbo where he must retrace his life before being reunited with his great
    love and comedy ...
    <[removed],1299,DRMN_53_2962023,0
    [removed];

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:11:35 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  6-16 births/deaths

    June 16th births

    06-16-1885 - Tom Howard - County Tyrone, Ireland - d. 2-27-1955
    comedian: "It Pays to Be Ignorant"; "Sunday Night Party"
    06-16-1890 - Stan Laurel - Ulverston, England - d. 2-23-1965
    comedian: "Laurel and Hardy Show" Pilot, never broadcast
    06-16-1903 - Ona Munson - Portland, OR - d. 2-11-1955
    actress: Lorelei Kilbourne "Big Town"
    06-16-1907 - Jack Albertson - Lynn, MA - d. 11-25-1981
    actor: Grouch "Grouch Club"; "Milton Berle Show"
    06-16-1910 - Ilona Massey - Budapest, Hungary - d. 8-20-1974
    actress: Mata Hari-style operative in World War II "Top Secret"; "Screen
    Guild Theatre"

    June 16th deaths

    01-06-1914 - George Reeves - Woolstock, IA - d. 6-16-1959
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Crime Does Not Pay"
    02-14-1913 - Mel Allen - Birmingham, AL - d. 6-16-1996
    sportscaster, announcer: "White Owl Sports Smoker"; "Truth or Consequences"
    08-07-1911 - Ray Nicholas - Galesville, WI - d. 6-16-1979
    director: Free lance
    11-20-1891 - Reginald Denny - Richmond, Surrey, England - d. 6-16-1967
    actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Texaco Star Theatre"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:12:31 -0400
    From: "Phil Stallings" <redryder@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Mt. Carmel's Lone Ranger Radio Days

    First of all .. thanks to Dan Hughes for leaving a note on May
    17th concerning Lone Ranger Radio Days hosted by Mt. Carmel, IL
    on May 15th.  It was a pleasure to meet and visit with Dan.  As
    you know, Mt. Carmel is the birthplace of Brace Beemer.  We had a
    good turn out with people coming from New York, Florida, North
    Carolina, Georgia and Maine just to name a few.  I'm sure I
    didn't get to meet all the "out of towners" who attended and I'm
    sorry I didn't.  I just received my June copy of The Silver
    Bullet and those of you who do not subscribe to that publication
    have missed a beautiful color issue containing an excellent
    report on the event including pictures.  Joe Southern has gone
    above and beyond with his latest issue of The Silver Bullet.  A
    hearty Hy .. Yo .. Silver to Joe.

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:11:59 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Wendell Corey

    I am enjoying the  thread of performers entering politics.  My contribution
    is Wendell Corey, who won a seat on the Santa Monica City Council in 1965.
    He later  ran for the Republican nomination for Congress from his district.

    Corey had an unusual radio show, which I have never heard, entitled
    "McGarry and His Mouse." Jack French writes an amusing, detailed discussion
     of this obscure program in his new book, PRIVATE EYELASHES [BearManor
    Media, 2004].  This quotation from the book says it all, "Mercifully, only
    three programs have survived from this abysmal series so that future
    generations will not have to waste much time on it." (p. 173) That was
    actually the kindest thing the author said about the program.  Has anybody
    on this list, other than Jack, actually listened to this NBC entry (also on
    Mutual)? French notes that it was actually fairly popular in its day.

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:12:50 -0400
    From: Art Chimes <achimes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jiminy Cricket - Encyclopedia song

    Forgive me for an off-topic post. I'm looking for a recording of
    "Encyclopedia," a song performed on TV as early as 1955 by Disney's
    Jiminy Cricket character. It may have been on the old Mickey Mouse Club
    show or possibly the evening Disney show, or perhaps some special. In
    it, Jiminy Cricket spells out the title, E-N-C-Y-C-L-O-P-E-D-I-A. I
    believe the song was written by then-head Mousketeer Jimmie Dodd.

    If anyone has a copy or an idea where I might find it in the next couple
    of days, please contact me off-list.

    Thank you!

    Regards,
    Art

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:57:12 -0400
    From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Performers who went into politics

    Here are a few other actors that went into politics:

    Sheila Kuehl who played Zelda on the TV series The Many Loves of Dobie
    Gillis, became a California State Senator.

    Fred Grandy left the TV series Love Boat and became a US Congressman, from I
    believe, Iowa.

    Clint Eastwood became mayor of Carmel, California.

    Ben Jones, who played the character Cooter on the TV series The Dukes of
    Hazzard, was elected from the state of Georgia to the US Congress and served
    from 1988 to 1992.

    Regards,
    Ken Dahl

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:09:04 -0400
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: amateur hour programs
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    In a message dated 6/15/04 11:12:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     question 2: Being a long time lover of Amateur programs, I wonder how
>     many Major Bowes or any other amateur shows are in circulation.

    I heard a rumor not long ago that someone who was a veteran of broadcasting
    in Alabama, recorded a large volume of "Horace Heidt's Youth Opportunity Hour"
    for his own pleasure in the late 1940s and still has many of them.

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:09:46 -0400
    From: "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Orphaned" works

    I know that there are people on the OTR mailing list who write books and
    articles about OTR and who produce and sell copies of OTR programs. There is
    currently a lawsuit called Kahle v. Ashcroft that challenges changes to [removed]
    copyright law that have created a large class of 'orphan works' -- creative
    works which are out of print and no longer commercially available, but which
    are still regulated by copyright. It seems to me that a lot of OTR programs
    would fall into that category. To help make their case the litigators are
    collecting personal experiences of people who have had problems using such
    older works because of copyright restrictions. I'm not here to beat a drum
    about copyright law, but if you would like to contribute a story of your own
    experience, here's the website: [removed]

    [Charlie - I realize any mention of copyright can create a tedious and
    pointless discussion, so if you don't want to include this I fully
    understand]
    Doug Leary

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:17:02 -0400
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: politicians guest appearances
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    In a message dated 6/15/04 11:12:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     Governor Ronald Reagan made at least one appearance on a Jack Benny
>     special, and it
>     wouldn't surprise me if he made others.

    He sure did, in fact he made a very funny appearance once on "The Sonny and
    Cher Show" in the 1970s.

    I have to wonder how many politicians made entertainment-related appearances
    on OTR.   I know the mayor of Cleveland appeared on "The Bob Hope Show" when
    Hope did his Pepsodent show from that city,and surely there had to be others.
    I'm guessing Hoover, Roosevelt, or Truman never made any such comical
    appearances on radio?   Truman, I know, appeared on Jack Benny's half hour TV
    show
    once.

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:17:25 -0400
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Durabrand CD-208 MP3 Player
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    At 11:18 AM 6/15/2004, Barry wrote:

> >     Check out Durabrand Model Cd-208 at Wall Mart.

>     Will it resume?  When you turn it off will it restart where you left off?

    Recently I mentioned that it does that in a sort-of way. Today I have to
    amend that statement.

    There is a stop button and a play/pause button. There is also a power
    switch that selects radio/off/CD player. If you push the stop button or
    turn it off, it forgets everything. If you press pause, it will remember
    where it was and resume playing from that point.

    The amendment is that you need to ensure the disc is stopped when you press
    the pause button. This morning I heard some noise coming from the direction
    of the player and when I looked closely, it was doing a continuous seek of
    the disc. It had been in that mode for about four hours. The player has a
    memory function similar to the anti-shock memory in small portables. As
    long as the disc is stopped, it seems to remember where to resume the
    program. If the disc is not stopped, it seems it will continuously thrash.

    This player is not the be-all to end-all of MP3 players. But it is cheap
    and the Walmart return policy permits you to return it within 90 days if it
    does not satisfy your needs. In my situation, it provides me with what I
    want while I try finding a replacement motor for the Rio-Volt.

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:17:51 -0400
    From: "D. Fisher" <dfisher@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cleaning out the closet

    In trying to get rid of some of the stuff that's been collecting for years &
    I just don't need anymore I've run accross some back issues of several
    Oldtime Radio club news magazines that I would like to get rid of:
    Nara News, 24 issues - 1990 #1 thru 1998 #2. I think there are a couple of
    issues missing but I'm not sure because they went through a period when they
    missed a few issues.
    Old Time Radio Digest - 1991 thru 1998, 43 thru 86, with issue 76 missing.
    Past Times, 11 issues, 20 thru 32.
    Sperdvac Radiogram, 7 issues from 1995 thru 1997.

    The first person I hear from can have them for free, all I would want is the
    cost of postage. They weight about 10 pounds. I figure it would probably
    cost about 6 or 7 dollars to ship by mail.
    You can contact me off line.

    Don Fisher

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:12:00 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:32:10 -0400
    From: "J. Alec West" <OTR@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Arnold Michaelis, Insight, and Ronald Reagan

    In searching for information on the OTR program, "Insight," I've come up
    empty and wondered if anyone has more information on it.  Apparently, it
    was a program in the 50s constituting interviews of celebs done by
    Arnold Michaelis.  On May 23, 1958, Michaelis interviewed Ronald Reagan
    for "Insight."  At the end of the program, Michaelis said that his guest
    next week would be actor John Payne (played lawyer, Fred Gailey, in
    "Miracle On 34th Street") ... so it must have been a weekly show.  But,
    that's all I know about it.  If you want the 5/23/58 Insight program,
    you can download it here:

    [removed] <--64k mono, excellent quality

    Regards,
    J. Alec

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:22:43 -0400
    From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  news coverage on radio

    All this discussion of radio coverage of big events reminded me of something.
    I've always wished that there were recordings of WGN's coverage of the Scopes
    trial, but I've never heard of any existing.  Since the trial was in 1925,
    transcription disk would have been the only option, and I don't think they
    recorded any of their live remotes.

    Anyone have any insights on this event in particular, or early remote news
    broadcasts in general?

    -chris holm

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    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:14:30 -0400
    From: John Olsen <jrolsen@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sky Captain and the World of OTR

    I've started reading the Kevin Anderson novelization of the upcoming
    movie "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" and ran across the
    following passage:

    "It's coming into sight now above the Palisades! They'[removed] they're
    huge! They're crossing Sixth Avenue. Fifth Avenue. A [removed] a
    hundred yards away."

    Boy, did that ever resonate with me.  Yes, it's not quite word-for-word
    from Orson Welles' infamous 1938 "War of the Worlds" broadcast!  I even
    ran and checked my radio script (in Howard Koch's "The Panic Broadcast"
    paperback) just to make sure.

    Even though I'm only a fourth of the way through the novel, I've already
    noticed various OTR references.  Including the above homage to the old
    Mercury Theater broadcast.  Of course in the movie novelization, the
    passage refers not to Martian machines, but to Dr. Totenkopf's deadly
    giant robots.

    If anyone else is reading this new paperback novel, perhaps you can add
    some other OTR references that I've overlooked.  I'm sure there must be
    some.

    John

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