Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #294
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 9/6/2001 5:06 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2001 : Issue 294
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Favorite Shows                        [ Ken Kay <kenwyn@[removed]; ]
      gershwin CD                           [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
      Preoccupation                         [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
      Five Favorites                        [ "W. Gary Wetstein" <wgaryw@pacbell. ]
      OTR Magazine                          [ Christopher Lowell White <cncwhite@ ]
      Re: "Louie's Hungry Five" and "Cecil  [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      [removed] stations broadcasting OTR  [ csherid1@[removed] ]
      OTR favorites and non favorites       [ "Tony Bell" <t_bell61@[removed]; ]
      "Top Five" picks                      [ Jack A French <otrpiano@[removed]; ]
      Beulah, the Buzzer                    [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
      Scrapple                              [ "David L. Easter" <david-easter@hom ]
      More on Scrapple                      [ Jerry Bechtel <[removed]@[removed] ]
      OTR sci-fi                            [ "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed]; ]
      What It Was Like                      [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Age/Favorites/Moylan Sisters/Lone Ra  [ ArtsMilitaria@[removed] (Arthur Fun ]
      Favorites                             [ "steven kostelecky" <skostelecky@ho ]
      ETs & sleeves too                     [ Joe Salerno <salernoj@[removed]; ]
      Re: scrapple                          [ Garry Lewis <glewis@[removed] ]
      16in sleeves                          [ "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
      Top Five                              [ "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed]; ]
      Frontier Gentleman v. Have Gun Will   [ "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@mynr ]
      A loose end                           [ neil crowley <og@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:54:49 -0400
    From: Ken Kay <kenwyn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Favorite Shows

    .How does one pick five favorite shows out of so many shows that one
    loves?  Truth is, I can't.  So, I'll list my "Sweet 16" in alphabetical order.

    Cape Cod Mystery Theater
    Damon Runyon Theater
    Escape
    Frontier Gentlemen
    Gunsmoke
    I Love A Mystery
    Jack Benny
    Lum & Abner
    Night Beat
    Paul Temple
    Richard Diamond
    Sam Spade
    Shadow
    Six Shooter
    Tales Of The Texas Rangers
    Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar

    And a few that just [removed] Amos 'n Andy,  Sherlock Holmes,  Broadway Is
    My Beat,  Inspector West and Lux Radio Theater.

    Ken Kay

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:54:59 -0400
    From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
    To: otr <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  gershwin CD

    The  Gershwin Performs Gershwin CD is on the Music Masters Label,
    catalog  #5062-2-C  and  in addition to the two Gershwin broadcasts
    and Porgy and Bess rehearsal peformance previously noted also
    includes a Rudy Vallee Fleischmann Hour appearance in which
    Gershwin  played  three  brief  numbers  and  has  a short
    interview with Vallee.

    Michael Berger

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:56:13 -0400
    From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Preoccupation

    Rich Samuels remarked,

>     (The nation's apparent preoccupation with laxatives in the '30's and '40's
>     is worthy of investigation).

    I'd think it has something to do with the cultural phenomenon
    noted by Harry Von Zell in his Ipana toothpaste commercials on
    Fred Allen's 1930s shows; something like,
    "Because of the soft, creamy foods we eat today, our gums do not
    get enough exercise.  Try this:  Put a dab of Ipana on your finger,
    and rub it into your gums before brushing."

    Of course, the other product sponsoring the Allen show was the
    saline laxative Sal Hepatica.  Methinks Von Zell should have
    been touting that one instead when discussing the American
    diet of the time.

    John Henley
    jhenley@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:55:40 -0400
    From: "W. Gary Wetstein" <wgaryw@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Five Favorites

    all comedy:

    1) easy aces / mr ace and jane
    2) jack benny
    3) fred allen
    4) burns and allen
    5) you bet your life

    i don't recall having seen anyone else put easy aces in their top picks yet.
    . . hmmmm. . .

    --w. gary w.

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:57:34 -0400
    From: Christopher Lowell White <cncwhite@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Magazine

    Does anyone know if there is an official OTR magazine? If so how do I get it?

    Thanks,
        Bryant
    [removed] Can I listen to the Yesterday USA superstation using a shortwave radio?

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: I'm thinking this publication is about as close to an
    "official" OTR magazine as you'll ever [removed] the possible exception of
    Jay Hickerson's "Hello Again" publication.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:32:09 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: "Louie's Hungry Five" and "Cecil and Sally"

    Randy Spurlock wrote:

>     Has anyone heard of a show in the early 30's called "Louie's Hungry
>     Five". I just bought about a hundred transcription discs of it and
>     haven't listened to them yet and have no idea what type of show they
>     are yet. Any ideas?

    "Louie's Hungry Five," also known as "Herr Louie and the Weasel," was a
    German dialect comedy serial originally produced at WGN Chicago starting
    in April 1928 as a replacement for "Sam and Henry." The series was about
    a German oompah band led by "Herr Louie," and his troubles with his
    sidekick, "The Weasel," and the title characters were played by "Dutch
    dialect" performers from Davenport, Iowa -- Henry Moeller and Hal Gilles.

    Moeller and Gilles were colleagues of Freeman Gosden and Charles Correll
    at the Joe Bren Producing Company in Chicago in the early 1920s, and when
    Correll and Gosden left WGN in December 1927, Moeller and Gilles were
    recruited as their replacements. They had taught blackface during their
    time coaching home-talent shows with the Bren Company, and it is probable
    that they were the heretofore unknown performers who continued "Sam and
    Henry" thru the first three months of 1928 until the return of Correll
    and Gosden over WMAQ effectively snuffed out the WGN series. Moeller and
    Gilles then came up with "Louie's Hungry Five" to fill the former "Sam
    and Henry" timeslot.

    The program was live over WGN exclusively into October 1930, when the
    station agreed to allow Moeller and Gilles to make recordings for
    syndication -- although WGN retained the copyrights on the programs.
    Given that their refusal to syndicate "Sam and Henry" caused Correll and
    Gosden to jump ship three years earlier, their decision to finally allow
    the syndication of "Louie's Hungry Five" is a classic case of Too Little
    Too Late. By the fall of 1930, the syndication market was glutted with
    imitations of "Amos 'n' Andy's" dialect-serial format, and the WGN show
    achieved only moderate success as a transcription feature, airing on
    about forty stations.

>     BTW,in the same group were  more than 900 shows of Cecil and Sally

    >from the early 30's as well and I plan on converting them as soon as

>     time allows.

    "Cecil and Sally" were Johnny Patrick and Helen Troy, two performers who
    first teamed up in San Francisco in 1929, and began syndicating their
    program thru McGregor and Ingram in early 1930, grabbing for a piece of
    the serial craze sparked by A&A's success. Cecil Shortbridge and Sally
    Smith were teenagers, and the stories followed the Trials and
    Tribulations of their relationship in the usual teenage-antics manner. In
    this respect, the series was an important precursor to the Henry
    Aldriches and Archie Andrewses of later years.

    The program was probably the most successful of the syndicated serials
    following in A&A's wake, and new episodes were being produced as late as
    1934, with the series still in distribution as late as 1937. The series
    was so popular, in fact, that the Pepsodent Company bought international
    distribution rights in 1933, and sponsored the program on stations in
    Australia and New Zealand.

    This is a *major* find -- congratulations!

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:32:32 -0400
    From: csherid1@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed] stations broadcasting OTR

    I am 69 and remember sitting by the radio listening to the shows
    that I am enjoying again.  My favorites are any of the detectives.
    Sam Spade
    Richard Diamond
    Nero Wolfe
    Johnny Dollar(belongs at number one)
    and anyothers I can find
    For our 12 year old Otr fan:
    WRVO [removed] fm broadcasts OTR 7 days a week from 7:30pm to
    midnight.  They simulcast on the web too.  [removed]
    It is a great station, give it a try
    This is my first posting, but I really enjoy reading all the posts.

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:33:39 -0400
    From: "Tony Bell" <t_bell61@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR favorites and non favorites

    I have enjoyed reading everyone's favorite shows.  Here is my list from 1 to
    5:

    1. Amos n' Andy - Speaking as an African-American, I have never found this
    show offensive in the least on radio or TV, and I have older relatives who
    STILL find these guys funny.

    2. One Man's Family - The ultimate family drama, well written with memorable
    [removed] have often wondered how OMF would play today.

    3. Jack Benny - Probably the king of [removed] never get tired of the gags
    even if I've heard it a thousand times.

    4. Gunsmoke - proof that some of radio's best work came from outside of the
    so-called "golden age" years.

    5. Dragnet - It's too bad it was seen as kind of campy in the latter TV
    years, because it was great on [removed] gave a human face to the men
    and women behind the badge.

    5a. Tales of the Texas Rangers - a sleeper I found accidentally and has
    become a staple of my [removed] can never get enough of Jace Pearson.

    As much as I'd like to say that I've loved every OTR show I've heard, of
    course, that's not the [removed] is a short list of shows I keep in my
    collection for historical reasons, but just never grabbed me:

    1. The Bickersons - though I never detected any real nastiness between John
    and Blanche, they seemed to have a disturbing relationship, at least to me,
    that I didn't enjoy listening to.

    2. Life with Luigi - just don't like [removed] never seemed that funny to me.

    3. Beulah - I guess this is somewhat of a personal/political [removed]'m
    not a fan of the "white male playing a black female" [removed] don't have any
    of the shows when Hattie McDaniel, I believe, took over the role.

    Two other well known entertainers, Bob Hope and Red Skelton, are not my
    favorites either, though I would gladly acknowledge their contributions to
    the [removed], just a personal preference.

    I'm 43 and have been listening/collecting OTR for about 25 [removed] often
    feel out of touch with today's headlines because I listen to OTR shows on my
    daily commute rather than the news.

    Tony Bell

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:14:38 -0400
    From: Jack A French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Top Five" picks

    None of my "Top Five" will appear on anyone else's list, but here goes:

    1) Ft. Laramie (yes, slightly better than "Gunsmoke")
    2) Candy Matson (best detective [removed] & mystery)
    3) Information Please (sparkling quiz show, bristling with wit)
    4) Voyage of the Scarlet Queen (superior to all adventure programs)
    5) Quiet Please (unexcelled in mystery & fantasy)

    Jack French
    Edditor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:14:51 -0400
    From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Beulah, the Buzzer

    Hattie McDaniel and Ethel Waters playing the Beulah character reminds me of
    [removed]
    "Beulah, the Buzzer" signaling an incorrect answer on Ralph Edward's Truth
    or Consequences Show.  "When you don't tell the [removed] must pay the
    consequences!  Aren't we devils??"
    Russ Butler oldradio@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:49:26 -0400
    From: "David L. Easter" <david-easter@[removed];
    To: "Old-Time Radio Digest (E-mail)" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Scrapple

    Henry Howard wrote:

>     Subject:  scrapple

>     Jim said:  I  can attest to the fact that scrapple still [removed]

>     Jim, I can buy it in Atlanta, though it takes some looking for.

>     Our family loves it, about three or four times a year.
>     (My mother in law was from Phily.

    Following several postings, I could not let this go by. Scrapple has been
    available in the Baltimore/Washington/Delaware corridor continuously for at
    least 30+ years (I've been married that long.)

    I like it (ingredients not withstanding). I ate worse in the service and
    while overseas. Giant Foods (Div. of Ahold), a major chain in this area,
    stocks it all the time. The brand is "Rapa", distributed by Ralph and Paul
    Adams, Inc. of Bridgeville, DE - if anyone cares. It comes in a "regular"
    and "hot" version.

    David L. Easter

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:14:44 -0400
    From: Jerry Bechtel <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  More on Scrapple

    Having been born and raised in the Philadelphia area (near Pottstown)
    for about 22 years, I used to get scrapple for breakfast several times a
    week. Since I didn't know what was in it and didn't really care, I loved
    it fried with apple butter on it. Now that I live in the midwest
    (Illinois), I miss it so much that whenever I get back "home" one of the
    first things I ask for is scrapple for breakfast, then Hippy ring
    bologna, a hoagie, and also a cheese steak. The otr connection is that
    there were various commericials for "Ta-ra-ra boom-de-a, Philadelphia-
    scrapple-today" . These swingin' slogans are still in the minds of most
    who heard them 60 years ago!

    Jerry Bechtel

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:28:35 -0400
    From: "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR sci-fi

    Sorry I missed the sci-fi discussion going on in the last few issues. I
    wanted to address the original comment which seemed to imply that the
    bandwidth used to download OTR programs degrades the performance of the
    Internet. What absolute rubbish! For one thing, the volume of OTR material
    transferred over the Internet is not enough to noticeably degrade the
    Internet overall. If there is a bandwidth hog out there it would more likely
    be pornography, which dwarfs OTR to insignificance. But regardless, the
    Internet is for everybody who pays for a connection, whether they want to
    find a pumpkin pie recipe, check the stock market, trade OTR, or for that
    matter look at pornography. One might as well complain about OTR fans taking
    up too much space walking down the sidewalk.

    A second point I want to make is that science fiction stories have generally
    been full of technical holes since the genre began, and it's a fairly
    useless exercise to castigate one author or one tv/radio series for not
    being scientifically accurate. Sure, numerous technical holes can be found
    in episodes of Tom Corbett, Dimension-X, Space Patrol, etc. as well as
    (sorry) Star Trek. But why get upset? The genre was never meant to be a
    science course, any more than Johnny Dollar was meant to teach people about
    the insurance business. It's entertainment, it's fun! People like the idea
    of a time machine built into a car, or a potion (oops, chemical formula)
    that makes you invisible.

    I can't argue with a science teacher's specific experiences, but I have read
    and heard so many, many remarks by eminent scientists, especially in the
    space sciences, that they are where they are doing what they do today
    because of science fiction, particularly Buck Rogers and (sorry again) Star
    Trek. I think the greatest thing these programs do is cultivate the ability
    to believe that seemingly impossible things could somehow be possible. Maybe
    not the way Tom Corbett does it, but somehow. These programs deserve a lot
    of credit for firing the imaginations of kids clustered around a radio or
    tv, trembling with excitement about the fabulous future they will create
    when they grow up.

    Doug Leary

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:29:23 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  What It Was Like

    Spence -- Age 61 -- notes, speaking of favorite OTR shows,

>     I thought of another way to look at it:  What programs would I have
>     missed the most if they had not been broadcast?

    Well, as I've related before, I was so devoted to Captain Midnight that
    my father had a headphone jack installed on a portable (as of 1947) radio
    so that I wouldn't have to miss it if supper happened to take place at
    5:30.

    However, I don't consider that a "favorite" show any more than the
    renowned Elizabeth McLeod considers Amos 'n' Andy as a "favorite."  For
    me, at least, Captain Midnight transcended "favorite" to "Special."  No
    other radio show had that impact on my, and naturally, I almost never
    missed it.

    So, that aside, I used to listen to The Adventures of Superman, Tom Mix
    Ralston Straight Shooters, and whatever bridged the quarter hour between
    the serials (Buck Rogers or The Cisco Kid).without moving the dial.  We
    always heard Jack Benny and the Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show; these were
    family favorites.  Nick Carter, Master Detective, was one we all listened
    to, as well as The Adventures of Sam Spade.  I would listen to The Lone
    Ranger and The Green Hornet.  And, of course, The Shadow.

    While I liked a lot of other shows, those above were ones I'd go out of
    the way to hear back then.  And they hold up well to this day, if it
    comes to that.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:08:16 -0400
    From: ArtsMilitaria@[removed] (Arthur Funk)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Age/Favorites/Moylan Sisters/Lone Ranger

    Well, it's about time I jump on the demographic bandwagon.  This month
    I'll hit the big SIX-OH.  That means I was around to here the last 15
    years or so of what is referred to as the "golden years" of radio.

    Favorites as a kid:
    The Lone Ranger
    The Great Gildersleeve
    Our Miss Brooks
    Jack Benny
    Gunsmoke

    Favorites now:
    The Lone Ranger
    The Great Gildersleeve
    Rocky Jordan
    Mayor of the Town
    Gunsmoke

    It would be neat if someone with an abundance of time would tabulate the
    ages as well as the favorite shows.  I bet there are a number of shows
    that would dominate the tabulations, [removed], Jack Benny, the Lone Ranger,
    Gildy.

    Someone asked about the Moylan Sisters.  My wife used to listen to them
    as a kid in the Finger Lakes region of NY.

    Someone asked about the program schedule of the Lone Ranger in the
    central time zone.  I lived in the east and in my childhood years it was
    broadcast Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 7:30 [removed]  I assume it was at
    6:30 central.  In our home we listened to the Jack Smith Show at 7 and
    Beulah at 7:15 and then the Lone Ranger.

    Regards to all,
    Art Funk

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Actually, I'd rather prefer we did NOT tabulate the results
    of this discussion. In the first place, it's an unscientific survey, and in
    the second place it's MUCH less important which specific programs get the
    most mentions or what numeric age is the mean or average than it is that
    everyone on the list mention their own personal favorites for the rest of us
    to consider, or their age in relationship to the "golden age." There _is_ no
    "best" show or "right" age, only personal favorites and years lived; and the
    sharing of those personal favorites and life experiences, no matter how long
    or short, is what makes this discussion so interesting.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:08:43 -0400
    From: "steven kostelecky" <skostelecky@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Favorites

    I have to admit, my list looks much like the others.
    1. Fred Allen-the bridge between vaudeville and the topical. Endlessly
    inventive, ceaselessly writing and polishing, lived his show.
    2. Jack Benny-wonderful character of self-invention, surrounded by
    well-sketched characters and sure-fire gags.
    3. I Love A Mystery-looking for adventure and girls, but still bulwarks of
    doing "what's right" and never losing their moral compass even when
    confronted with the absurd.
    4. Mercury Theatre on the Air-another Wellesian, this is the show that wrote
    the book on what radio drama aspired to be--in the thirties, anyway.
    5. As a catchall, the "social realist" dramas of the thirties, along with
    the later "Destination Freedom" and, of course, the Norman Corwin dramas
    seeking to define the nature of what it means to be an American. These shows
    are radio aspiring to something higher and sometimes reaching it.

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:09:43 -0400
    From: Joe Salerno <salernoj@[removed];
    To: OTR List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  ETs & sleeves too

    "stephen jansen" <stephenjansen@[removed]; asketh:

>          I was just thinking how cool it would be to have a real ET disc hanging
>     up here in my room

    I've got some extra I would give you one for the cost of postage and a box
    if you're serious. Yes they did come bigger, 17" lacquers were used for
    mastering 16" transcriptions, but I don't have any of those to loose. A few
    companies did make 20" records at the beginning of the last century but they
    were not for radio. See my site for a pic of such - the shellac ones can
    weight in at about 4 lbs each, regular ETs about a pound each.

    [removed]

    = ==========================

    Harlan Z askes about sleeves. In a pinch I have gone to the office supply
    store - Office Depot or Office Max or Staples or whatever they call it now.
    I buy envelopes Columbian Jumbo envelopes 25 in a box 17 X 22 brown kraft
    C0984. I don't remember how much I pay for them. They are NOT archival
    quality, acid free or anything such, they are for keeping large office
    documents in but in a pinch they do.

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:13:11 -0400
    From: Garry Lewis <glewis@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: scrapple

    Just last night, I was watching the food channel. They were doing a
    program from a farmer's market
    somewhere( I wish I'd caught the name and city) and they did a short
    piece on scrapple. People seem
    to like it until they found out what was in it. They host describe it
    as "an acquired taste" food.

    				yours Spamming the years,

    					Garry D. Lewis
    --
    Remember: for every silver lining, there is a cloud!

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:09:15 -0400
    From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  16in sleeves

    hi
    i was going to email fred, however since harlan probably needs some
    i just bought 25 through another fellow, there is a min amount i believe
    you must purchase, about $1 ea, acid free i believe he said, these are
    heavy duty.
    i have never seen them as they were bought for me and used in a collection
    i purchased, but since i am in contact with the fellow i will post the info,
    of course you will have to factor in shipping if they even ship, i'll find
    out this
    week, this being thurs as i write.
    i re-read harlan's post, thats an awful lot of sleeves, so if anyone else out
    there is interested, i can't promise this will be, but i'll try,
    i trade, sell and buy 16in discs, prefer 30min shows, afrs fine, mystery,
    comedy,
    ed

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:14:32 -0400
    From: "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Top Five

    As a recent English convert to OTR my top 5 would be

    1. Nightbeat (I don't think anyone else has nominated this so far)
    2. Richard Diamond
    3. Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar
    4. Sherlock Holmes (Rathbone-Bruce, with Mr. Bartell's lovely Petri
    commercials)
    5. Dragnet

    I was shocked at my friend Ben Ohmart's top 5 in #293.

    I can understand the Goon Show, 1952-1960, it's within the OTR era, but Just
    A Minute and I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue date from 1967 and 1972
    respectively, and are still broadcast. The News Quiz is even newer !
    (They're all  BBC radio panel games to those who are unfamilar with them)

    Surely not OTR, Ben ?

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:14:28 -0400
    From: "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@[removed];
    To: "OTR DIGEST" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Frontier Gentleman v. Have Gun Will Travel

    I read Mike Ray's Best List with great interest. My only disagreement is the
    placement of Have Gun, Will Travel over Frontier Gentleman. I have been
    slowly listening my way through Frontier Gentleman (I up to epsiode 33 of 41
    total shows). Frontier gentleman really lends itself to a serial quality.
    Take for example the three part aventures involving Belle Siddo aka Madam
    Verde, the ex-confederate spy turned Lady Gambler and also Kendals two part
    encounter with the James Gang. I find Frontier Gentleman a far and Away
    Superior program to Have Gun , Will Travel. Although both star John Dehner,
    I find HGWT provides much more "guns blazing" action than Frontier
    Gentleman, but nevertheless has lower qaulity, less realistic feel too it. I
    find Frontier Gentleman carries an almost documentary quality to it. When I
    listen to it, I find myself creating visual picture in my mind of a Black
    and White stills of the people involved. Whereas, Have Gun Will Travel seems
    have superman quality to it. John Dehner himself remarked that Paladin was
    in his opinion a one dimensional character. While do enjoy listening to
    HGWT, I find Frontier Gentleman light years ahead in quality, realism, and
    pure artful drama. What always has puzzled me about Frontier Gentleman, is
    why Mr. Kendal stayed largely in the same area of the West. He seems to
    circle around the same general area.

    Many of Frontier Gentleman episodes are based loosely on Historical
    incidents.

    "Aces and Eights"    Obviously the Shooting of Marshall Hickok in Deadwood
    "The Cannibal"        This tale is loosly based on Alfred Packer who in Fall
    of 1873 who murdered Five men in Mountains of Colorado and was tried
                                   for murder in 1883 but later pardoned in
    1901.
    "Nasty People"       This is based on the True story of the family in Kansas
    known as the Bloody Benders

    My favorite episode is #2 Charlie Meeker. The beauty of this episode is that
    only 4 or 5 Actors (Dehner, Junius Mathews, Harry Bartel, Jeanette Nolan,
    and Larry Dobkin) and sound effects managed to create the illusion of an
    Entire "living" town. I especially enjoy Harry Bartel's excellent
    performance as the local journalist who tragically who accompanies Kendal
    for an interview with Sitting [removed] Mr. Bartell returns
    throughout the series for parts. One other thing is that Stacy Harris whose
    "Good Guy" role THIS IS YOUR FBI led me to be surprised by his talent in
    Frontier Gentleman to play unusually despicable, treacherous, hard-nosed
    characters week after week. In the first episode S. Harris plays the sullen
    deputy in town of South Sunday, to his portrayal of the bitter killer Jack
    McCall who shot drinked himself up to shooting Marshall Hickock in the back.
    Of Course, in "Aces and Eight" who could ever forget Jeanette Nolan's over
    the top performance as "Calamity Jane". Without engaging in stereotypes, I
    also think Larry Dobkin turns the absolute most convincing Old Time Radio
    portrayal of Native American character I've heard in "Charlie Meeker" in
    terms of believable sounding speech and mannerisms. Here in Oklahoma we have
    lots of Native Americans around by which to judge.

    Mike Kerezman
    Macomb, Oklahoma

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    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:46:55 -0400
    From: neil crowley <og@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A loose end

    Unless I missed it I didn't see an answer to Elizabeth's #8.

>     8. "XXXXXX -- what a XXX XX XXXXX for five cents!"

    So I peeked in the back of the book and found "Mounds - what a bar of
    [removed]".

    I guess Mounds come two to the bar so Peter can share with Paul. But where
    does that leave Mary? I know, the joy of almonds.

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