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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 76


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Alan Reed, Jr.
	 Administrivia: WWW by Email
	
	 Tumbling Tumbleweeds
	 More relatives
	 "First" Shows
	 Shoestring Radio Theatre Airing On Internet
	 Bob Jones and Poor Butterfly
	 Mary on the Final Show
	 Re: Funiculi, Funicula
	 If you plan to buy from Matinee [removed]
	 Gamblings, Poor Butterfly, [removed]
	 First radio drama.
	 Re: Myrt & Marge Follow-up.
	 Lackmann book
	 Cassette Buyer's Alert!

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:08:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "Kathy O'Connell" <oconnell@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Alan Reed, Jr.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

This is one of those old radio/old TV crossover threads.
Yesterday, I was watching one of my "Gunsmoke" videos (CBS Video 
Library).  One of the villains in the piece was played by a young man 
named Alan Reed, Jr.  Does anyone know if this is indeed the son of Alan 
Reed (Fred Flintstone and so much more)?

I seem to remember that Alan Reed's real name was Teddy Bergeron.  And I 
searched the actor's face for family resemblance, but found none.
Can someone fill me in?

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:04:15 -0600
From: lgenco@[removed] (Louis Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Administrivia: WWW by Email
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Subscribers with only email access to the internet now have an opportunity
to get just about any internet service via email.  This includes WWW,
Gopher, FTP, etc.

Get the following file for more information:

		Accessing The Internet By E-Mail
          Doctor Bob's Guide to Offline Internet Access

This document is now available from several automated mail servers.
To get the latest edition, send e-mail to one of the addresses below.

    To: mail-server@[removed] (for US, Canada & South America)
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    Enter only this line in the BODY of the note:
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Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:17:35 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

ight about Donna Damerel (Fick) dying after
childbirth.  It happened after midnight on February 15, 1941.  She had played
her role of Marge on "Myrt and Marge" on the 14th and was fine when she went
to the hospital.  Her mother, Myrtle Vail continued the show with Helen Mack
playing Marge the rest of the season.  That's the same Helen Mack who wound
up with a number of directing credits.  She directed "Beulah," " A Date With
Judy," and the "Alan Young Show," for example.
   John Dunning lists the program as the first MAJOR soap opera.  It came on
for Wrigley's on CBS November 2, 1931.

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:59:03 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Tumbling Tumbleweeds
Message-ID: <960226225902_154314369@[removed]>

   A posting by Bill Harris asked for a date for the first recording of
"Tumbling Tumbleweeds" by the Sons of the Pioneers and a short answer from
Bob Kirk, said, "July, 1946."
   I'll have to take issue with that.  First of all, some background on the
song.  Leonard Slye (Roy Rogers) sang that number with a group called the
International Cowboys in an [removed] theater during an earthquake in 1933.  Then,
in early August, 1934, he had his first recording session with the Sons of
the Pioneers.  One of the songs included in the session on Decca was
"Tumbling Tumbleweeds."  As a matter of fact, it made it to number 13 on the
charts December 15, 1934.  The group was appearing on [removed] radio in the
mornings as the Gold Star Rangers and as the Sons of the Pioneers in the
evenings.  In June of 1936, they recorded the song again.  From 1943-47 many
recordings were made to be used for soundtracks in Roy's movies and Tumbling
Tumbleweeds was included.  They sang it in the movie, "Silver Spurs" in 1943
and in "Don't Fence Me In," in 1945.  So, this is just a note of curiosity as
to where Bob Kirk came up with his date.
   Maybe he meant the Pioneers AFTER Roy was no longer part of the group, but
when that first recording was made he was one of the Pioneers.

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:26:35 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: More relatives
Message-ID: <960226232634_432497254@[removed]>

   In speaking of kin who performed in OTR, you just can't leave out Sam
Edwards.  He was on "Meet Corliss Archer," "Escape," "Gunsmoke," "Father
Knows Best," "The Guiding Light," "Hawthorne House," "One Man's Family" and
countless others.  His sister, Florida Edwards, was on "Hawthorne House,"
(don't know her other credits); Sam's brother, Jack, was on a show called
"Aunt Mary."  Also appearing on that was Jane Webb, who became Mrs. Jack
Edwards.  Some of her credits included "The Barton Family," "The Guiding
Light," "That Brewster Boy," "Those Websters," and "Tom Mix," where she was
one of the young Janes.  Jack Edwards, Jr. was in "Masquerade," "One Man's
Family," and "Today's Children.
   Not only that, but Sam's parents had a traveling theatrical troupe, so
show business was in their blood.  This is a change from most of the OTR
personalities because many will tell you that no one in their family ever had
anything to do with performing.
   Incidentally, I just had Sam and Beverly Edwards on my Recreational
Vehicle radio talk show and I had him do again for our listeners that 8:00
[removed] call to his [removed]"Oh, [removed]!," and he can still do
it, although he admitted being a little rusty.
  Oh, in case you wonder what he had to do with an RV [removed] was really
Beverly who was the focus this time.  They're on their seventh RV and she's
been writing RV articles for a number of years, serving for quite a while as
editor-at-large for Highways magazine, the official publication of the Good
Sam Club.  I've always kidded Sam that the club was named for him but it's
really short for Good Sam(aritan).

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:57:28 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: "First" Shows
Message-ID: <960226235728_432524593@[removed]>

  I've misplaced it but I think it was Max Schmid who asked which shows were
first in several categories.  In another posting I listed "Myrt and Marge" as
the first major soap opera with its November 2, 1931 beginning on CBS.
   In the "variety" category, I'd have to go with "The Rudy Vallee Show."
 (Also called "The Fleischmann Hour," and "The Royal Gelatin Hour," because
it was sponsored by Standard Brands.)  It got going on NBC in 1929 on the
24th of October.
  As for music/comedy, you'd probably have to put Billy Jones and Ernie Hare
high on the list.  They were singing together on radio as early as 1921 (did
a 90-minute show on WJZ that year) and did songs and patter as The Happiness
Boys all through the medium's initial decade.  
   It wasn't a regular show yet for Eddie Cantor, but he was on WJZ in1921.
   From 1924 to 1927, there was music and comedy by The Coo-Coo Club
Orchestra on WTAM in Cleveland.
   As to the first quiz show, would you believe 1923?  A current events quiz
was concocted by a couple of youthful Yale graduates to try and increase
readership for a magazine they started in 1923.  It was called "Time" and
Henry Luce and Briton Hadden were the guys.  Their circulation manager talked
WJZ out of some free time to do a thing they called "The Pop Question Game."
 It ran until the latter part of 1926.  No prize or anything was offered to
our knowledge so the "first" in that category would probably be "The
Brunswick Hour Musical Memory Contest" on WJZ.  Brunswick Records paid out
5-thousand bucks a month as the attention-getter.

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:16:40 -0700
From: srt@[removed] (Shoestring Radio Theatre)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Shoestring Radio Theatre Airing On Internet
Message-Id: <v01540b01ad5835f5b2e0@[[removed]]>

***  SHOESTRING RADIO THEATRE ***

NEWS RELEASE / INTERVIEW ADVISORY

Media Contact:

Monica Sullivan, Producer
[removed] Box 590163
San Francisco, CA 94159-0163
[removed]

Email:  srt@[removed]
Web:  [removed]

February 26, 1996


    "SHOESTRING" & "MOVIE MAGAZINE" NOW AIRING ON THE INTERNET

          PLAY NOMINATED FOR BEST RADIO DRAMA PRODUCTION

SAN FRANCISCO - The non-profit radio production company Shoestring Radio
Theatre announced today that its two nationally-syndicated radio
programs--"Movie Magazine International" and "Shoestring Radio
Theatre"--will now air each week on the Internet via flagship station
KUSF-FM in San Francisco, which recently began simulcasting 24 hours a day,
7 days a week on [removed], a web site which transmits live radio
programming in RealAudio format.

Anyone in the world with a compatible computer system can listen to the
programs on the Internet as they air Wednesday nights on KUSF, [removed] FM in
San Francisco. "Movie Magazine International" airs from 9:00 - 9:30 PM
(Pacific time); Internet listeners will hear the local edition of the show,
which differs slightly from the national edition heard on satellite.
"Shoestring Radio Theatre" airs from 9:30 - 10:00 PM (Pacific time).

In order to access KUSF's live RealAudio feed, listeners will need the
RealAudio Player. Version [removed] (which supports AM radio sound quality)
requires a [removed] Kbps modem or better and is available for Macintosh and
Windows. Version [removed] (which supports near FM mono sound quality) requires a
[removed] Kbps modem or better and currently is available for PowerMacintosh,
Windows, and most Unix operating systems. Computer users can get more
information about RealAudio, or download a free copy of the player, at the
RealAudio home page on the World Wide Web ([removed]).
KUSF's RealAudio live feed is located at [removed] and can be accessed from
Shoestring Radio Theatre's web site ([removed]), KUSF's
web site ([removed]), or [removed]'s web site
([removed]).

"We are really excited about the shows airing on the Internet," exclaims
Founding Producer MONICA SULLIVAN. "We will now be able to reach people who
can't currently hear us because we don't have a radio affiliate in their
market yet."  "Many visitors to our web site have requested we make the
shows available on the Internet," comments Webmaster RANDY PARKER. "Now
with KUSF simulcasting on [removed], it means that anyone in the world can
listen to 'Shoestring Radio Theatre' or 'Movie Magazine International', if
they have a compatible computer system."

"Movie Magazine International" is a 30-minute entertainment guide which
covers the local and national film scene with movie reviews, special
reports, weekly trivia contests, and interviews with directors and actors
from yesterday and today. "Shoestring Radio Theatre"--a 30-minute radio
drama program--draws on a pool of local talent to write, direct, and
perform works which span an astonishing range of genres and styles:
everything from classic murder mysteries to slapstick comedies to
historical romances to contemporary dramas. The programs currently are
heard on a confirmed station line-up of 93 radio stations in 25 states via
the Public Radio Satellite System.

GOLDEN REEL NOMINATION FOR "THE WOMAN IN WHITE"

The National Federation Of Community Broadcasters held its annual Community
Radio Program Awards ceremony on February 17th, and "The Woman In
White"--produced by Shoestring Radio Theatre in 1995--was one of five final
Golden Reel nominees for Best Radio Drama Production of 1995. The chilling
gothic melodrama (produced by Monica Sullivan and directed by Randy Parker)
is an adaptation of "The Woman In White" by Wilkie Collins. The play
premiered locally on KUSF in March, 1995 and aired nationally on the Public
Radio Satellite System in May 1995.

                               ###

"Movie Magazine International" airs nationally on the Public Radio
Satellite System every Friday morning from 1:00 - 1:30 Eastern time on
channel [removed] followed by "Shoestring Radio Theatre" from 1:30 - 1:59.
"Movie Magazine International" and "Shoestring Radio Theatre" air locally
in the San Francisco Bay Area on KUSF, [removed] FM every Wednesday night from
9:00 - 10:00 Pacific time and can be heard simultaneously on the Internet
on [removed] at "[removed]".

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 00:51:45 -0500
From: "Robert M. Connelly" <rush@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Bob Jones and Poor Butterfly
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I am very happy to see my from long ago friend Bob Jones posting here on the
OTR board. And he was too modest when he mentioned only his DJ activities on
Cincinnati radio stations. He also was for some time the News Director of
WKRC-TV which is when I got to know him and Ted McKay who has been a regular
here.

I can vouch for Bob's love of "Poor Butterfly". As a collector of old 78 rpm 
discs of first class music by first rate artists, I remember buying a small
collection of discs (about 100 or so) and finding Fritz Kreisler's version in
the stack. I immediately called Bob with high hopes that I had come across
with one he just could not have gotten and was somewhat crushed to be told
someone else beat me to the punch. So goes the life of collectors!

BTW, welcome aboard, Bob. 

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:52:30 -0500 (EST)
From: JACKBENNY@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Mary on the Final Show
Message-id: <01I1OXO5D9XU9EJYJF@[removed]>

I really hate to admit this, but I don't know who played Mary on the last
show.  I am reasonably certain that it wasn't Joan.  Was it Jeanette Eyemann (I think that's the right spelling, but am too lazy at the moment to look it up)?
Mnnahhh, could  be.  It's really not a bad guess.  As I recall, the opening
says "Mary Livingstone" and credit for the performance is not given elsewhere
in the show.

--Laura Lee
International Jack Benny Fan Club

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 03:54:18 -0600 (CST)
From: Charlie D Matkin <cdm01@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Funiculi, Funicula
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

It was the theme for "Lorenzo Jones & his wife Belle", not "Just Plain 
Bill", as I recall.

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 05:58:25 -0600
From: "Joe C. Foster" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Otr <otr@[removed]>
Subject: If you plan to buy from Matinee [removed]
Message-Id: <H0000b3f02236b22>

Just a warning and a note of precaution to the OTR people.

In December I placed an order with Matinee House after receiving a flier. My
check was cashed on Jan 12, but no package has been mailed to me. I have
e-mailed, sent letters and called (leaving a message on their answering
machine) without reply.

I am not an unreasonable person, if there is a delay - notify me and I will
patiently wait. However, I believe that Matinee House may have fallen on hard
times (or perhaps a scam) and OTR customers should avoid placing orders with
this company. I gathered my contact information (e-mail address, phone number,
address) from the OTR vendor list. If anyone is aware of any changes in that
information, please contact me.

I truly hope there has been a misunderstanding or a mistake because [removed] has
many Jean Sheppard tapes I wanted to buy. I do not wish anyone else to
encounter the difficulty that I have with Matinee House.

Carey

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:08:02 -0500
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Gamblings, Poor Butterfly, [removed]
Message-ID: <960227080801_432688198@[removed]>

To Robert Scherago; yes, another John Gambling hosts the WOR NY morning
airwaves; third generation since 1925! Also, I believe "Just Plain Bill's"
theme song was "Polly Wolly Doodle"; "Finiculli Finicula" was the theme of
Lorenzo Jones. 

To Bob James: "Poor Butterfly" and its connection to "Madame Butterfly" was
just described in a Feb 96 edition of "Opera News". Isn't it ironic that the
"Metropolitan Opera" and "Grand Ole Opry" are about the only live radio
musical shows left on commercial radio (not to mention the WWVA "Jamboree",
still on the air out of Wheeling WV.). By the way, Bob; I envy you being a
Cincinnati broadcaster; what a legacy: Ruth Lyons, WLW, Boone County
Jamboree, Moon River, Midwestern Hayride, Bob Braun, Paul Dixon, WCKY's
Nelson King & Wayne Rainey, and on and on and [removed]

Bill Knowlton, Syracuse NY

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:16:45 -0500
From: FranStrike@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: First radio drama.
Message-ID: <960227091644_154563218@[removed]>

Let me Introduce myself.  I'm Fran Striker Jr., and my Dad (Fran Striker) was
the creator, author of The Lone Ranger, the Green Hornet, and many other
[removed]  I've been lurking and reading the digest for about a week [removed]
and find it most [removed]
  
>Max Schmid asks
>What and when was the first dramatic series on [removed]
 
Certainly, a most interesting [removed]  we may never reach an definative
answer but I'll be happy to share some info that I [removed]

What constitues a series?  Dad was an established radio Drama writer in 1928,
 (Local to Buffalo) and most of his material was broadcast over WEBR (then a
comercial station).  

Some of dad's early drama series' were titled--

Crystal Gazer (1929 - 13 episodes), "Hank and Honey" (1929 - 178 episodes -
this was a sit-com), "Betty and Jack" 1929 (number of episodes are unknown to
me) which he spun-off into a longer series called "Behind the Headlines"  (79
episodes). There was also "Adventure Land," "Adventures in the Air," "Campus
Nights" (1930 - 33 episodes), "Covered Wagon Days" (1930 - 24 episodes), "Way
Out West (1931 - 8 episodes, a sequel to Covered Wagon Days) and [removed]
(all Pre-Lone Ranger).

>Max [rightfully] suggests
> I guess it would have to be network radio to qualify,  or would it?

Good point Max, to which I'll ask  What constitues a Network.  The Lone
Ranger was broadcast  over the Michigan Radio Network (seven stations) in
early 1933.  
In 1934 the Ranger was picked-up by WGN (Chicago) and WOR (Newark).  As I
understand it this three station hook-up was the launch of the Mutual
Network.  Other station groups joined in (I can't recal the specifics without
a lot of digging through a lot of files) but in 1937, the Ranger was being
broadcast coast-to-coast, live!  And I seem to have it in my mind that it may
have been the first dramatic program to achieve that status and  popularity. 

Enough for this edition,  I'm sure there was earlier drama, but at least this
offering will provide a starting point for you folks.  Let me wrap up by
saying that I'll be glad to field any questions directly but it may take me a
while so please be patient.  My direct e-mail address is "FranStrike@[removed]"


Keep up the good work (the digest) and I'll [removed] "seeing you on the radio"

Best wishes.

Fran

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:50:33 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Myrt & Marge Follow-up.
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

rjones@[removed] (Bob Jones) writes:
>Over the years I'vd been fond of saying that Myrt and Marge was not a
>soap opera but a chewing gum opera. Its long-time sponsor was Wrigley.
>You talk about a sponsor identification: the characters' full names were
>Myrtle SPEAR and Marge MINTER.

(I can't recall the specific detail below; someone please correct me on it)

While we're on the subject of sponsor IDs and product placement, I was
amused when it dawned on me that Ozzie and Harriet, long sponsored by
[either 1894 or 1849?] Rogers Silver Plate, were said to live at
[either 1894 or 1849?] Rogers Road.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Adobe Systems, Inc. (formerly Frame Technology)
Advanced Product Services
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:24:13 -0600 (CST)
From: mackiere@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lackmann book
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I know somebody has brought up this subject before, but I just got
my copy of the Ron Lackmann book, "Same Time, Same Station," published
by Facts on File.  It's a beautiful and interesting book, but based on
the entry for "The Happiness Boys," full of some glaring mistakes.
   There are egregious errors on this entry, the caption turns the boys
names around, it is **Ernie Hare** and **Billy Jones**.  Also, Hare died
first, he did not "retire," as Lackmann says, but he DIED.  Jones carried
on the show until 1940, then he died also.  Anyway, this material is
really botched, I'm sorry to say.
   Are there other bad mistakes in this book?  If so, maybe it isn't worth
the $45.  Maybe Lackmann's philosophy is to simply make stuff up that he
doesn't know about.   

>From mostly a "lurker" who really loves this list,
Dennis Reese
<dennis-reese@[removed]>

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:24:54 -0500 (EST)
From: jhc <jhcollin@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Buyer's Alert!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

During the past few months, I have purchased OTR cassettes from several
sources.  Always on the lookout for a bargain, I was delighted to find
HELLO AGAIN, RADIO (Cincinnati, OH; Florence, KY), which sells 1 hr
cassettes for only $[removed] each.  But the quality of these tapes was
horrible!  Most of them were recorded at a very low volume, there was a
lot of distortion, too much base, static, fadeouts, etc.  Some of the
tapes were just plain inaudible.  I listened to all of them, but don't
think I will ever want to again.  I didn't send them back because they
were so cheap, but I certainly will never buy anything from that company
again.  I had a similar experience with VINTAGE BROADCASTS (Staten Island,
NY), which sells 1 hr cassettes for $[removed] each.  The quality was a bit
better, but still mostly poor.  A couple of the tapes were mislabeled (same
show on two different tapes), and at least one of them was completely
blank.  On the other end of the quality scale, I was very pleased with the
cassettes I bought from ADVENTURES IN CASSETTES, but they are very pricey 
($[removed] for a 1 hr cassette). 

Does anybody know a supplier of good quality OTR cassettes at reasonable 
prices?

John Collins

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