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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 193
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Same time, same station               [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  What would it [removed]                 [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  The Golden Age of Radio               [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed] ]
  If my radio had a V-chip ...          [ Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed]; ]
  Re: Bill Conrad photography book      [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
  the untouchables [removed]       [ Afanofoldradio@[removed] ]
  re: Si and Elmer                      [ Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed]; ]
  Victor Borge on NBC                   [ Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed]; ]
  Joel Siegel                           [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
  Private Eyelashes                     [ "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@[removed]; ]
  7-2 births/deaths                     [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  re: Private Eyelashes                 [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  OTR Book-Scott                        [ Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed]; ]
  OTR in the News                       [ seandd@[removed] ]
  "Those Were The Days" still gets it   [ Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:12:11 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Same time, same station

One of the lines repetitiously applied by network radio announcers that
sticks in my mind from childhood is the signature sign-off "Tune in (again)
(tomorrow) (next time) (next week)" that was almost inevitably followed by
"...same time ... same station."  Although I'm certain I heard the infamous
tagline scores of times on juvenile adventure serials plus some primetime
fare (dramas?  comedies?), there's only one place that I can reliably recall
it.

For years and years I never heard interlocutor Dan Donaldson (who frequently
used the pseudonym Charlie Warren) say anything else as he signed off the
beloved and beleaguered heroine Ma Perkins every day.  He possessed a rich
basso profundo that was flawless.  Donaldson put a strong emphasis on "same"
as he metered out the term, almost like he was trying to turn it into
multiple syllables:  "Tune in again tomorrow," he'd allow.  "S-a-a-a-m-m-e
time ... s-a-a-a-m-m-e station."  After a couple of decades of that
(counting prior and successor announcers), listeners fell into a groove and
accepted it as part of the farewell nomenclature.

The homilies dispatched by the homespun, golden-throated,
mellifluous-sounding Donaldson often perfectly matched the scene of a
laid-back Rushville Center.  (For sure, that was a misplaced moniker for a
Midwestern hamlet.)  He took incredible monologue from wordsmith Orin Tovrov
and applied it as if he originated the copy, typically summarizing
matter-of-factly at the close of one episode:  "And so ... the whole family
is deeply concerned about Fay.  And though Ma expresses her deep faith in
Fay ... is Ma concerned too?  Well, Fay does see Andrew White and ... Fay
finds words on her tongue which surprise even Fay ... tomorrow."  Then, as
expected:  "For now, this is Dan Donaldson reminding you to tune in again
... tomorrow ... s-a-a-a-m-m-e time ... s-a-a-a-m-m-e station."  But with
metaphors like the previous ones, who among those legions of the faithful
could resist?  There wasn't much doubt about their being in that vast throng
tuning in.

Daniel Jones Donaldson, born March 11, 1915 at St. Louis, died at Chapel
Hill, N. C. on Dec. 1, 1991.  After seven years of studying law and medicine
at St. Louis University and supporting himself by announcing at the school
station, WEW, when a pal bet him he couldn't get a "real" radio job,
Donaldson -- on a dare -- stopped by the network affiliates in Chicago while
vacationing in 1939.  He surprised both his chum and himself, landing
announcing spots on not one but two daytime serials.  His repertoire
eventually included Clara, Lu 'n' Em; Kitty Keene, Incorporated; Radio
Reader's Digest; Road of Life; and The Trouble with Marriage.  He delivered
the commercials on Can You Top This? for much of the 1940s while working
several other programs in Chicago and New York.

Not sure why those other shows that used a similar exit from the airwaves
don't come to me now, by the way.  One way of finding out is to play
hundreds of representative tapes.  A quicker one is to mention it on the
digest.  Readers?

Then I can say, "Uh, oh, I could have had a V-8."  (I wonder:  is that
instead of a V-6?)

Jim Cox

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:12:23 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  What would it [removed]

What program would be so good that the theaters in our town would stop the
film and pipe in a radio program -- today?  Or TV audio.  I have asked
myself the question -- but I can't think of one.  It probably would NOT be
Garrison Keillor, Paul Harvey, the Tabernacle Choir, or Unshackled.  Those
are the only "old time radio" programs that are still on the air -- as far
as I know.

Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:12:35 -0400
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Golden Age of Radio

The Golden Age of Radio - WTIC Website has added
another program - a 1974 hour of "The Dick Bertel
Show" where he interviews Bob Payne, an authority
of the history of Connecticut radio.

At the same web site you can hear 89 "Golden Age of
Radio" shows and 43 "One Night Stand with the Big
Bands" programs.

[removed]

Bob Scherago
Web Master

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:35:53 -0400
From: Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  If my radio had a V-chip ...

[complete this sentence]

When I was young, if my radio had a V-chip, I never would have heard ....

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:37:07 -0400
From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  Bill Conrad photography book

I've heard from Bill's son, and the book I wrote about yesterday is not
by THE Bill Conrad.  The author is "Wm B. Conrad," but the OTR star is
"John William Conrad."

---Dan

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 19:12:34 -0400
From: Afanofoldradio@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  the untouchables [removed]
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the announcer for the untouchables was Walter Winchell

_afanofoldradio@[removed]_ (mailto:afanofoldradio@[removed])   ed  kienzler
springfield, illinois

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:28:07 -0400
From: Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Si and Elmer

I have to agree that the "Si and Elmer" shows are painful to listen to.  I
gave up after the first series in which nothing was funny and the solution
to the mystery was obvious to the audience way too early.

It does have the positive side effect of making better shows sound really
terrific in comparison.

I was reminded of a series of short stories called "Philo Gubb,
Correspondence-School Detective" (1918) by Ellis Parker Butler (1869-1937).
Unfortunately, the "Si and Elmer" knockoff was really inadequate.  I can
only hope that it was a learning experience for everyone involved and that
they did better the next time.

Stephen D
Calgary

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:31:46 -0400
From: Stephen Davies <SDavies@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Victor Borge on NBC

from Joe Mackey's excellent history series:

1945 - Victor Borge was first heard on NBC. The network gave the
comedian/pianist the summer replacement slot for Fibber McGee and Molly.

I think this factoid was abbreviated from a fuller version.  This would be
the day that Borge got his own show, but he was heard years earlier as a
semi-regular on NBC's "Kraft Music Hall" with Bing Crosby (c. 1942).

Stephen D
Calgary

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:35:21 -0400
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Joel Siegel
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Joel Siegel contacted me in the 1990's in my official capacity as proprietor of
Vintage Broadcasts.  He was looking for a copy of Sergeant Preston.  It seems
he sent away for a premium as a child and the premium was a deed for a small
(maybe 2" x 3" or whatever piece of land).  He was on assigment for ABC to
see his piece of property and needed some biographical information as well as
some audio to use for the piece he was doing about his land.  I saw the
report and it was amusing; he had the latitude and longitude readings (like
on a map) and did find his property, but wasn't sure if any land claim would
hold up, since it was about 40+ years later.  A few months after that, he
told me he and Leonard Nimoy went to school together in the Los Angeles area
but I can't recall if they graduated from the same high school.
The only old-school veteran of movie reviewers is Gene Shalit who has been on
the air during Joel Siegel's employment, and maybe Roger Ebert.  I hadn't
talked to Joel Siegel for several years.  During the time I first spoke to
him, he had gotten married and had a child and I had two more.  He had taken
time off a few years ago because of the illness but no mention wa made of it
since then.
Andy Blatt

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:37:14 -0400
From: "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Private Eyelashes

My wife and I just got back from a very entertaining afternoon in Kenosha,
WI.  "Private Eyelashes", a celebration of the female character in radio
drama, was presented at the Kenosha Museum

 On behalf of our cast and crew, I'd like to thank Mark and any other members
of [removed] who attended Sunday afternoon's production at the Kenosha Public 
Museum!  Glad you had a good time.  I, too, greatly enjoyed the opportunity 
to meet  and talk to Jack French!!   Incidently, I was the guy asking the 
questions and handing out the Snickers bars during the intermission 
pseudo-Dr. IQ quiz.
--don
Don Jensen

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:35:36 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  7-2 births/deaths

July 2nd births

07-02-1892 - Jack Hylton - Great Lever, England - d. 1-29-1965
bandmaster: CBS 1935-1936 Sundays at 10:30 PM Standard Oil
07-02-1910 - Earl Robinson - d. 7-20-1991
composer: "The Pursuit of Happiness"
07-02-1910 - Jeff Alexander - Whidbey Island, WA - d. 12-4-1989
conductor: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Light Up Time"; "Tums Hollywood Theatre"
07-02-1914 - Clint Alley - d. 3-9-1994
sportscaster: WKOY West Virginia
07-02-1916 - Barry Gray - Red Lion, NJ - d. 12-21-1996
talk show host: "Barry Gray on Broadway"; "Scout About Town"
07-02-1916 - Ken Curtis - Lamar, CO - d. 4-28-1991
singing cowboy: "Hollywood Barn Dance"
07-02-1921 - Paul Atkerson - d. 5-16-1988
newscaster: KPHO Phoenix, Arizona
07-02-1924 - Bryant Arbuckle - d. 6-xx-1976
disk jockey: WAIR Winston-Salem, North Carolina
07-02-1927 - Brock Peters - NYC - d. 8-23-2005
actor: Darth Vader "Star Wars"; "Earplay"
07-02-1928 - John Timpson - Harrow, England - d. 11-19-2005
presenter: "Today"

July 2nd deaths

01-17-1875 - Minetta Ellen - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-2-1965
actor: Francis 'Fanny' Barbour "One Man's Family"
01-31-1927 - Norman Prescott - Boston, MA - d. 7-2-2005
producer: Boston radio
03-27-1914 - Snooky Lanson - Memphis, TN - d. 7-2-1990
singer: "Snooky Lanson Show"; "Your Hit Parade"
05-05-1915 - Ben Wright - London, England - d. 7-2-1989
actor: Hey Boy "Have Gun, Will Travel"; Nicholas Lacey "One Man's
Family"
05-08-1910 - Nathan Van Cleave - Bayfield, WI - d. 7-2-1970
music: "The Man Behind the Gun"; "This Is Your FBI"
05-15-1910 - Walter Cassel - Council Bluffs, IA - d. 7-2-2000
baritone: "General Motors Concerts"; "Calling America"
05-20-1908 - James Stewart - Indiana, PA - d. 7-2-1997
actor: Britt Ponset "Six Shooter"
05-30-1920 - Franklin J. Schaffner - Tokyo, Japan - d. 7-2-1989
writer, director: "World Security Workshop"; "The March of Time"
06-09-1905 - Martha Boswell - Kansas City, MO - d. 7-2-1958
singer: (The Boswell Sisters) "The Boswell Sisters"; "Woodbury Soap
Show"
06-10-1919 - Hal Simms - Boston, MA - d. 7-2-2002
announcer: "The Steve Allen Show"; "Stop the Music!"
06-15-1905 - James Robertson Justice - Wigtown, Scotland - d. 7-2-1975
actor: "Star Bill"
07-09-1910 - Alfred Kreymborg - NYC - d. 7-2-1991
writer: "The Columbia Workshop"
07-10-1926 - Fred Gwynne - NYC - d. 7-2-1993
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
07-21-1899 - Ernest Hemingway - Oak Park, IL - d. 7-2-1961
author: "NBC University Theatre"; "Columbia Workshop"; "Screen Guild
Theatre"
07-23-1936 - Don Drysdale - Van Nuys, CA - d. 7-2-1993
baseball announcer: California Angels, Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles
Dodgers
07-24-1898 - Amelia Earhart - Atchinson, KS - d. 7-2-1937
aviatrix: "Amelia Earhart", "Cities Service Concerts"
09-30-1896 - Fred Wright - San Diego, CA - d. 7-2-1990
writer, actor: "Lights Out"; "Mystery is My Hobby"; "Ma Perkins"
10-04-1916 - Jan Murray - The Bronx, NY - d. 7-2-2006
emcee: "Songs for Sale"; "Meet Your Match"
10-13-1926 - Ray Brown - d. 7-2-2002
jazz bassist: "Bands for Bonds"; "Here's to Veterans"; "White House
Jazz Festival"
11-05-1919 - Hy Zaret - Syracuse, NY - d. 7-2-2004
writer: "Sing It Again"
11-09-1909 - Kay Thompson - St. Louis, MO - d. 7-2-1998
singer: "Fred Waring Show"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Tune-Up Time"
12-18-1916 - Betty Grable - St. Louis, MO - d. 7-2-1973
actor: "Hollywood Showcase"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "So You Want to
Lead a Band"
xx-xx-xxxx - John Walsh - d. 7-2-1945
actor: Private Homer Stubbs "Dear Mom"; Chuck Blair "Romance of Helen
Trent"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:37:20 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Private Eyelashes

Mark Higgins, presenting a review of the Private Eyelashes shindig in
Kenosha, wrote:

Both scripts were well acted, with live sound effects and live music,
including a saxophonist for the first episode, and a great organist,
George Wertz, supplying the background and atmosphere for Candy
Matson.

I almost dropped my teeth when I read about the organist--that's my
uncle! Well, I have an uncle named George Wertke, a pianist and
organist who lives in Milwaukee, and my mother just mentioned to me
this past week that he played organ recently on a recreation of "The
Shadow." Made me realize we haven't spoken on the phone in a while, so
I picked it up (before I'd even finished reading Mark's message) and
gave George a call. Sure enough, it's him! He says he had a blast doing
this, as well as the Shadow gig last month, and he really enjoyed
meeting Jack French. He also had a lot of fun playing the radio jingles
for the Dr. [removed] segment.

What an amazingly small world it is sometimes. George has known about
my love of old-time radio for years. (He has great memories of radio
but my mother, who is only two years younger, can't seem to remember a
thing about it.) In fact, he still routinely sends me wonderful old
books related to radio stars (and silent movie and vaudeville actors
too), that he picks up at old bookstores and library sales. I've picked
up some real gems through him. But I never in a million years thought
that he'd ever have an OTR connection (even if it is only through
recreations!).

As they used to say on Lum and Abner--wonderful world!

Kermyt

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:37:03 -0400
From: Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Book-Scott

There are a few out there and I am sure you will get
the names of some of the others. I beleive the most
popular and my favorite is John Dunning's On the Air:
The Encyclopedia of Old Time Radio. If you go to
[removed] you will find new copies available
for around forty bucks and used for a little less.

It will give you just about everything you could want
to know about a radio program including dates and
times it was on the air, network, sponsor, type, stars
and trivia you may not have though about. A second
thing I like to do when i am in a hurry is just type
in the name of the program and +otr. You would be
surprised what will come up.

Jerry

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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:06:23 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR in the News
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This newspaper in Willkes-Barre Pennsylvania published a tribute to Phil Harris:
[removed];BRD=2259&PAG=461&dept_id=455149&rfi=6
Also, this history of KFRC in San Francisco from the San Francisco Chronicle will also be of interest to many.
[removed];type=tvradio
Sean DoughertySeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:04:29 -0400
From: Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Those Were The Days" still gets it [removed]

 7/4 1951 - Jack Webb did a summer switch -- from his
Dragnet role of Sgt. Joe Friday to that of Pete
Kelly.

More accurately, he did double-duty.  The entry sounds
like Webb stopped playing Friday in order to portray
Kelly.  Untrue: he did BOTH roles.

7/7 1949 - Dragnet was first heard on NBC radio

Episode five aired on this date.  DRAGNET made its
debut on June 3, 1949.  Where does one go to complain
to "Those Were the Days"?

Michael

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