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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 337

Table Of Contents: 

	 The Brooklyn Pinafore
	 Delayed broadcast
	 "Big Broadcast" movies?
	 Rembering [removed]
	 Baseball shows
	 Re: Clayton Moore Book
	 Convention
	 Regional Networks
	 Halloween

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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:57:58 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Brooklyn Pinafore
Message-ID: <960916235757_524101674@[removed]>

In response to the gent asking about baseball and Leo Durocher on radio, he
did a classic appearance on the Fred Allen Show.  As usualy, Allen set up
Durocher by involving him in one of his zany musical parodies (South Dakota,
a parody of Oklahoma, was another triumph).

This one was the story of the Brooklyn Dodgers put to the music of Gilbert
and Sullivan's [removed] Pinafore.  To wit (and this is from memory folks),

"My eyes they are so very very weak, that's why I am umpire in the national
league.

Last year I made a call that caused acclaim, I threw a player out that wasn't
in the [removed]"

Strangley enough, that is the only baseball show I can come up with off the
top of my head.  Anyone out there collect Damon Runyon theater?

Best, SD (kubelski@[removed]).

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:33:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Delayed broadcast
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:13:42 -0400
> From: "Michael A. Carraher" <carraher@[removed]>
> To: <otr@[removed]>
> Subject: Re: 5pm adventure Hour
> Message-Id: <m0v2dZg-0004hUC@[removed]>
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> It was not uncommon for regional networks to "transcribe programs for
> broadcast at more convenient time."  Apparently the network rules against
> transcribed programs prior to the late 40's did not apply to affiliates of
> regional networks in the boonies.

I think the rules allowed this much later than the 1940s.  Certainly it
was common with kinescopes in early television, when many markets didn't
have enough stations for every network to have its own affiliate.  I
remember one program that my sister and I, as kids, thought was very
funny.  First the local announcer would say, "The following program is a
kinescope recording."  Then the show would start with an announcer
shouting "Live from Hollywood!"

For that matter, I think this is still done occasionally.  A couple of
years ago, TV Guide listed "Lois & Clark" as pre-empted on our local ABC
affiliate.  But when I called to protest, they said that it would be aired
at midnight.  I guess I wasn't the only one who called.

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:26:58, -0500
Date: 17 Sep 96
From: DAVE@[removed] ( DAVID ALLAN   BOUCHER)
From: LJNF40A@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: "Big Broadcast" movies?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I recently saw in TV guide a listing for a movie titled something like
"Big Broadcast of 1938".  I am too young to remember this [removed]
after setting the VCR and taping [removed] realized it had very little to
do with radio.  

What was the premise of these "Big Broadcast" movies?  Can anyone
explain the significance of them?  

Apparently they were an ongoing 'series'...(?) And ssome/one of them
feature [removed]

Can anyone fill in the blanks here and shed some light on these?

Thanks!
--
Dave in Boston  (E-Mail: Dave@[removed])

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:27:00, -0500
Date: 17 Sep 96
From: DAVE@[removed] ( DAVID ALLAN   BOUCHER)
From: LJNF40A@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Rembering [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Interesting episode of WENN last weekend.  About the black radio actor
that could not be allowed to be seen for fear the public would know he
was black.  

Interesting line from the [removed]"Radio is the one place where it
doesn't matter what color you [removed]"

Also enjoyed when the other radio actors realized how silly those "Amos
& Andy" style 'black characters' [removed]

Did anyone else like this past episode?  Thoughts?
--
Dave in Boston  (E-Mail: Dave@[removed])

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 08:12:48 -0700
From: PETER GRECO <pgreco@[removed]>
To: radio digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Baseball shows
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Hi,
  Here's a few baseball related [removed] Queen (world series crime)
X-Minus One (Martian Sam)...Pete

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:22:17 -0400
From: "Michael A. Carraher" <carraher@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: Clayton Moore Book
Message-Id: <m0v306w-0004hhC@[removed]>
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[removed] (online book store) [removed]

I Was That Masked Man; Clayton Moore, Frank Thompson; Hardcover; $[removed]
(Not Yet Published -- On Order)

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 08:01:55 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Convention
Message-ID: <960917080154_103832497@[removed]>

The 21st Annual Friends of Old-time Radio Convention will be held Oct 17 - 19
at the Holiday Inn North, Newark, NJ.  Some special guests are Dick Beals,
Ivan Cury, Jean Gillespie, John Hart, Bob Hastings, Bill Zuckert, David
Kogan, Jackson Beck, Arnold Stang, many others.  If you want a flyer, please
e-mail me your mailing address.  Jay Hickerson, Box 4321, Hamden, CT 06514
(203) 248-2887  FAX (203) 281-1322

Also Anthony Tollin is now on the Internet.  He is an expert on The Shadow.
 His e-mail address is SanctumOTR@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:02:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Larry T. Lewis" <mfltl@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Regional Networks
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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The message that follows  struck a responsive chord with me. I
grew up in Worcester, MA and I remember quite often that the
programs on the Mutual station often would end with the statement,
"this is the Yankee Network."  I also have some tapes of otr programs
that end with "this is the Don Lee network".  Can anyone provide 
some history about these networks.  When did they orginate? How
were they connected to the major networks? When did they disappear?
And who was Don Lee?

Regards,

Larry Lewis            Internet: mfltl@[removed]
Geography  Department  Bitnet: mfltl@[removed]
Western Illinois Univ  Phone: (309) 298-1764
Macomb, IL 61455                  


Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:13:42 -0400
From: "Michael A. Carraher" <carraher@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Re: 5pm adventure Hour
Message-Id: <m0v2dZg-0004hUC@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Mutual and the Blue Network often fed their programs to affiliates through
regional networks.  Mutual -- in particular -- used such hook-ups as the
InterMountain Network out of Denver, the Don Lee Network out of LA and the
Yankee Network out of Boston.  

Dick Osgood in his history of WXYZ, Detroit (Wixie Wonderland) describes
how WXYZ (from the mid 30's an NBC-Blue/ABC affiliate) operated the
Michigan Radio Network for stations outside Detroit.

Regional networks allowed shows to be produced for regional audiences -- or
national programs to be sponsored by regional advertisers.  For example,
until the early 40's when General Mills assumed national sponsorship, the
Lone Ranger had various sponsors in different parts of the country. 
Mergers and consolidations have largely done away with regional brands but
they were common during the OTR era.

It was not uncommon for regional networks to "transcribe programs for
broadcast at more convenient time."  Apparently the network rules against
transcribed programs prior to the late 40's did not apply to affiliates of
regional networks in the boonies.

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Date: 17 Sep 1996 12:16:32 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Halloween
Message-Id: <m0v33if-000k3zC@[removed]>

Hi, all,
It may seem a little early but what the heck. I am trying to compile a
list and get coppies of shows that would be good listening around
halloween. My wife's birthday is on halloween and during October I like
to give her OTR shows with that scary kind of theme to listen to as she
drives to and from work during rush hour. I need ideas. Don't need to
hear about Orson Wells' War of the Worlds or his Dracula, though. I
have them on my list already.




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