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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2009 : Issue 208
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  FOTR CONVENTION VIDEOS                [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  FOTR CONVENTION VIDEOS                [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  Fwd: [Daily article] October 29: Mut  [ Tony Baechler <tony@[removed]; ]
  Re: WOTW and Charlie McCarthy         [ Alan Bell <alanlinda43@[removed]; ]
  Candy Matson                          [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  Re: Jack Benny's Anaheim              [ Jordan Young <jordanyoung50@sbcglob ]
  Re: Hindenburg Fire                   [ LBiel <[removed]@[removed]; ]
  WOTW broadcast on YUSA                [ "Holm" <cbholm@[removed]; ]
  FOTR '09 (aka #34) recap              [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  10-30 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Last word on WOTW?                    [ Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed] ]
  Live Broadcasts                       [ Andy Blatt <asajb2000@[removed]; ]
  Norman Painting                       [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  Jack Slattery                         [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  War Of The Worlds, TOTM Style         [ S Jansen <ilamfan@[removed]; ]
  Re: War of the Worlds - My 2 Cents (  [ <georgewagner@[removed]; ]
  Steve Allen & WotWorlds               [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:06:36 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  FOTR CONVENTION VIDEOS

Fun at the convention with Charlie Summers. The links will take you
to Youtube and they are safe to view.

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Fred
Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:06:44 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  FOTR CONVENTION VIDEOS

Fun at the convention with Charlie Summers. The links will take you
to Youtube and they are safe to view.

[removed]

[removed]

Fred
Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:06:53 -0400
From: Tony Baechler <tony@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fwd: [Daily article] October 29: Mutual
 Broadcasting System

Hi all,

Here's today's daily article from [removed]  Every day, a new
"daily" article is posted to a mailing list along with various events in
history, a word of the day and a quotation.  Only the first paragraph is
posted with a link to the full article.  I thought that today's article
was interesting, especially since I remember discussion of it on the
digest and read the news articles at the time.

The Mutual Broadcasting System was an American radio network, in

operation from 1934 to 1999. Of the four national networks of American
radio's classic era, Mutual had for decades the largest number of
affiliates but the least certain financial position. In the golden age
of [removed] radio drama, the network was best known as the original home of
The Lone Ranger and The Adventures of Superman and as the long-time
radio residence of The Shadow. For many years, it was a national
broadcaster for Major League Baseball, including the All-Star Game and
World Series, and for Notre Dame football. From the mid-1930s and for
decades after, Mutual ran a highly respected news service accompanied
by a variety of popular commentary shows. Toward the end of its run as
a major programmer, it introduced the country to Larry King. For the
first 18 years of its existence, Mutual was owned and operated as a
cooperative, setting the network apart from its competitors: Mutual's
members shared their own original programming, transmission and
promotion expenses, and advertising revenues.

Read the rest of this article:
<[removed];

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:10:17 -0400
From: Alan Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: WOTW and Charlie McCarthy

Ken Piletic wrote:

Several years ago I recorded a STEREO CD which had Charlie McCarthy on one
channel and War of The Worlds on the other channel.  When this CD is played,
the listener can use the 'balance' control which will allow 'tuning' from
one network to the other, or to listen to both broadcasts at the same time.

I was one of the recipients of that CD, and I've used it in a college class
focusing on OTR and culture for 4 or 5 years. It's quite interesting to hear
that almost to the second, the introduction to WotW ends simultaneously with
the beginning of Nelson Eddy's song on the C&S Hour. While it's never been
documented to my knowledge, it certainly lends credence to the theory that
many people took that opportunity to do a little "channel surfing" and got
hooked on the news bulletins.

AB
_________________
Alan/Linda Bell
Santa Rosa, CA

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:10:36 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Candy Matson
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       I know that private investigator "Candy Matson" had many cases which
she solved.  Did she, like many other private investigators, carry a gun?  I
don't know if this was ever brought out in the series or not. Surely she did.

       Does anybody know if she carried, or even used, a gun in any of her
cases?

As always,

Kenneth

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:10:54 -0400
From: Jordan Young <jordanyoung50@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Jack Benny's Anaheim

I wanted to add that there's a very nice article on the internet, which has
been around for close to 10 [removed]
[removed]

>From the city of Anaheim site.

Per Jim Hilliker's post, I agree the article is worth reading--but it
incorrectly states Benny's visits to Anaheim ended with his 1967
appearance at Melodyland Theater.

He also performed at Melodyland March 21-23, 1969, my article about
which appears in "Well! Reflections on the Life and Career of Jack
Benny" --
[removed]

Jordan R. Young

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:12:09 -0400
From: LBiel <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Hindenburg Fire

      George Wagner explained that he was taught in high school science that
many survived the Hindenburg because the burning hydrogen gas rose away from
the survivors due to its lifting power, and did not know how this could
happen in a paint fire.  Simple.  The fire started at the top back, far away
from the victims at the bottom.  The dirigible was quickly unbalanced and
tilted down falling slowly, allowing many to jump.  Because the gas was in
separate large bags inside the frame -- not held in one large "balloon" as
many assume -- the unburned bags retained their individual lift to the frame
allowing the entire unit to fall slowly.  It is easily seen on the film that
the fire spread on the skin.  When it was finally fully engulfed and totally
fell, the flames DID NOT rise away from the survivors.  They are seen
frantically running for their lives.  It was the gas in the individual bags
which slowed the fall of the entire unit enough for them to get to the ground
before it fell on them, but once it was there it was burning totally down to
ground level.

I must stress that the hydrogen gas did eventually burn, but it did not start
the fire.  The result might have been the same if it was filled with helium,
at least at first.  The flames would have started and spread throughout on
the skin which would have then burned the bags containing the gas.  These
bags would lose their lift as the gas escapes.  Perhaps the fire might not
have ultimately been as intense, but it would have started just the same, and
would have spread on the skin just the same.  Within seconds after it hit the
ground there was no escape.

If hydrogen burns upward, and the fire started at the top, why would it have
spread so quickly DOWN and around the entire ship?

Michael Biel   mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:12:19 -0400
From: "Holm" <cbholm@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WOTW broadcast on YUSA

In the last digest, Martin mentioned a live feature on Yesterday USA from
Grovers Mill all about The War of the Worlds.  Anyone know if that will be
rebroadcast on YUSA later, as I won't be able to listen to the live
broadcast?

-chris holm

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:12:28 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  FOTR '09 (aka #34) recap

(Stream of consciousness here; please forgive  any omissions!)

I wasn't there Saturday, and per usual, had to miss much  daytime stuff
while rehearsing; but some thoughts about the first two  days:

...Thank you, Randy Larson & The Chicago (soon to be "New  [removed]")
Gang, for my first audit of the legendary EASY ACES, whose writing  I now
place
close to the hallowed level of VIC & SADE and ETHYL &  [removed]

...This BURNT producer was gifted with a cast - Hard-Boiled  Dick (Bobb
Lynes), Secretary-who-really-runs-things (Barbara Watkins), Stoolie  Sidekick
(Kevin Scullin), and Mysterious Lady (Lynne Rogers) - who were  just_right
for a ScFi [removed]

...The Poe/Lincoln Bicentennial panel was  chocked full of rare Abe & Edgar
OTR clips by its able presenter Edgar Farr  Russell III, supplemented with
great info from Richard Sloane of the Lincoln  Group of [removed]

...The moments of Derek Tague's Comedy Panel I was able to  catch were a
live showcase of adlib ability, as Russell Horton & co. dealt  with "We Are
Experiancing Technical Difficulties - Please Stand By!"  [removed]

...THE FALL OF THE HOUSE OF USHER was a real Halloween treat,  anchored by
Russell H. & Michael Gwynne (who followed his fine ACES comedy  turn with a
solid Dramatic one here)...

...Gregg Oppenheimer's GREAT  GILDERSLEEVE was a worthy recreation, with
Chuck McCann an able lead, Shirley  Mitchell a timeless Lela, and a solid
stock company in the Conroys (Larry &  Christina), Leslie Shreve, et al. ...

As ever, it's a pleasure to  see Cyber Listers in the flesh: Jay, Martin,
Charlie, Michael, Ken, and all! For  that reason, as well as the
presentations, if you're one of those folks whose  refrain is always, "Gee -
I really
OUGHTA go there  [removed]"

DO!

And if that's impossible for some reason, pick up  Fred Berney's recordings
of the festivities.

Happiest of All  Hallows,
-Craig W.

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:12:34 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-30 births/deaths

October 30th births

10-30-1751 - Richard Brinsley Sheridan - Dublin, Ireland - d. 7-7-1816
writer: (Inventor of the Malaprop) Some of his works adapted for radio
10-30-1879 - Eily Malyon - London, England - d. 9-26-1961
actor: Lady Greystroke "Tarzan"
10-30-1885 - Ezra Pound - Hailey, ID - d. 11-1-1972
poet and traitor: "Italian Propaganda Broadcast"
10-30-1891 - Bill Brandt - d. 11-18-1963
sports commentator: "Inside of Sports"
10-30-1896 - Bill Terry - Atlanta, GA - d. 1-9-1989
sportscaster: WAGA Atlanta
10-30-1896 - Ruth Gordon - Wollaston, MA - d. 8-28-1985
actor: "Lincoln Highway"; "Meet Mr. Weeks"; "Orson Welles Theatre"
10-30-1898 - Arthur Kohl - Chicago, IL - d. 8-29-1983
actor: Fred Andrews "Archie Andrews"; Bob Graham "Bachelor's Children"
10-30-1901 - Chester Bagg - d. 10-13-1988
baritone: WCBC Zion, Illinois
10-30-1906 - Paul J. Smith - Calumet, MI - d. 1-25-1985
music: "The Eddie Bracken Show"
10-30-1907 - Renzo Cesana - Rome, Italy - d. 11-8-1970
creater: "The Steve Allen Show"
10-30-1908 - Patsy Montana - Hot Springs, AK - d. 5-3-1996
yodeling country singer: (Prairie Ramblers) "Nationial Barn Dance"
10-30-1910 - Francia White - Greenville, TX - d. 10-22-1984
singer: "Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"; "Fred Astaire Show";
"Telephone Hour"
10-30-1911 - Milton Lieberthal - d. 6-5-1989
writer: "The Sheriff"
10-30-1911 - Ruth Hussey - Providence, RI - d. 4-19-2005
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-30-1912 - Preston Lockwood - Leyton, England - d. 4-24-1996
actor: "Sherlock Holmes"
10-30-1915 - Fred Friendly - NYC - d. 3-3-1998
writer, director: "Hear It Now"; "Who Said That?"; "Quick and the Dead"
10-30-1918 - Harvey Lowe - Victoria, Canada - d. 3-11-2009
host: "Call of China"
10-30-1918 - Joan Banks - NYC - d. 1-18-1998
actor: Arline Harrison Manning, "Portia Faces Life"; Carlotta Lagorro
Armour, "Today's Children"
10-30-1918 - William N. Burch - d. 10-1-2005
producer: "Truth or Consequences"; "Gene Autry's Melody Ranch"
10-30-1923 - Hershel Bernardi - NYC - d. 5-9-1986
actor: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
10-30-1924 - Norman Bird - Coalville, England - d. 4-22-2005
actor: Major Burnaby "The Sittaford Mystery"
10-30-1926 - Charles Woolf - California - d. 6-18-1994
actor: "Life of Riley"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-30-1927 - Joe Adcock - Coushatta, LA - d. 5-3-1999
baseball player: "Baseball: An Action History"
10-30-1939 - Sammy Ogg - Lexington, VA
actor: Little Beaver "Red Ryder"; Donnie Henderson "Beulah"
10-30-1951 - Harry Hamlin - Pasadena, CA
actor: "We Hold These Truths"

October 30th deaths

02-06-1899 - Ramon Novarro - Durango, Mexico - d. 10-30-1968
actor: Freelance
02-10-1903 - Lewis Allan - NYC - d. 10-30-1986
writer for theatre, radio, television and films
04-08-1915 - Carlyle Austin - d. 10-30-1985
sportscaster: KEVR Seattle, Washington
05-11-1914 - Bob Atcher - Hardin County, KY - d. 10-30-1993
singer: "Faultless Starch Time"; "WLS Barn Dance"
05-14-1918 - June Duprez - Teddington, England - d. 10-30-1918
actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
06-11-1904 - Allen Roth - St. Louis, MO - d. 10-30-1972
conductor: "Broadway Matinee"; "So You Think You Know Music"
06-15-1918 - Grace McDonald - Boston, MA - d. 10-30-1999
actor: "Treasury Star Parade"; "Hollywood Personals"
06-19-1921 - Buddy Brees - NYC - d. 10-30-1994
singer: "Art Mooney and his Orchestra"; "Bob Chester and his Orchestra"
08-01-1906 - Judd McMichael - Minneapolis, MN - d. 10-30-1989
singer: (The Merry Macs) "Bing Crosby Show"; "Fred Allen Show"
08-12-1912 - Sam Fuller - Worcester, MA - d. 10-30-1997
producer, director: "The Aldrich Family"; "The Jack Carson Show"
08-28-1924 - Peggy Ryan - Long Beach, CA - d. 10-30-2004
dancer, actor: "Mail Call"; "Bob Hope Show"; "Proudly We Hail"
09-09-1873 - Max Reinhardt - Baden, Austria - d. 10-30-1943
film director: "Texaco Star Theatre"
10-14-1907 - Pert Kelton - Great Falls, MT - d. 10-30-1968
actor: Agnes "Magnificent Montague"; Lolita "We Are Always Young";
"Milton Berle Show"
10-27-1908 - Josephine Antoine - Boulder, CO - d. 10-30-1971
singer: "Contented Hour"
11-24-1911 - Kirby Grant - Butte, MO - d. 10-30-1985
singer, actor: "Gatewood to Hollywood"; "Hollywood Barn Dance"
11-26-1933 - Robert Goulet - Lawrence, MA - d. 10-30-2007
singer-actor: "Guard Session"; "Voices of Vista"
12-05-1886 - Rose Wilder Lane - De Smet, SD - d. 10-30-1968
writer: (Daughter of Laura Ingalls Wilder) "Hallmark Hall of Fame";
"Helen Hayes Theatre"
12-26-1921 - Steve Allen - NYC - d. 10-30-2000
comedian, actor, singer, composer and anything else you might mention:
"Steve Allen Show"

Ron

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:14:17 -0400
From: Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Last word on WOTW?

Perhaps the last word on the ultimate impact of WOTW came from Welles
himself. In the mid-Forties he declared that, when the Japanese attacked
Pearl Harbor in '41, there were some listeners who refused to believe it was
true. According to Orson, they were convinced that the war reports were "just
another damn Orson Welles broadcast!"

On the subject of best OTR for Halloween, I agree with Martin about the
dramatic monologue, "The Button." And although neither of the two Raymond
Edward Johnson broadcasts of the story are extant, there is in circulation a
1947 Rudy Vallee show with Kirk Douglas as the prisoner in solitary
confinement who goes insane. Interesting to listen to; who would of thought
of Kirk Douglas as a "horror actor"?

In addition to doing "The Button" twice on INNER SANCTUM, Ray Johnson also
doubled as host and actor in the SANCTUM version of "The Fall of the House of
Usher," and in 1944 played himself as Raymond the Host in the IS drama "Dead
Man's Vengeance." At the beginning of the story he is heard finishing a
broadcast and then the mystery starts when he immediately receives a call
from an old friend who's been dead ten years. A lot of fun--I wish they had
done more stories where Raymond the Host was involved in the actual drama.

Mike Ogden

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:14:22 -0400
From: Andy Blatt <asajb2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Live Broadcasts

What was the reason that primetime dramas were repeated three hours later and
recording (transcribing) was not done until well into the 1940's?  Was it
because recording technology had not yet been perfected, or was the reason
that the actor's union was afraid that recorded dramas would mean less work
(and less money) for its members?  Many of the attendees to FOTR would tell
of participating in an 8 pm East coast broadcast, going out for dinner and
coming back at 11 pm Eastern time to then put on the 8 pm broadcast for the
Pacific and Mountain time zones.  I thought I knew the answer but wanted to
be certain because someone asked me (and referenced the East and West Coast
Suspenses) and so I wondered if anyone had any light to shed on the matter.
Thanks.
Andy

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:14:28 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Norman Painting
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Norman died Oct 28 at the age of 85.   He played Phil Archer on the BBC
series, The Archers for 59 years, a record for the longest-serving actor in a
single role.   Who has the record in the US?    Jay

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:14:53 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Slattery
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       I noticed on the recent birth/death list that Jack Slattery was listed
as the
annoucer for "You Bet Your Life". I always thought that the announcer for
this
program was George Fenneman. Was Slattery the announcer before Fenneman
came along?

As always,

Kenneth

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:15:01 -0400
From: S Jansen <ilamfan@[removed];
To: "Bulletin Board, OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  War Of The Worlds, TOTM Style

I've just posted an excerpt of our "War Of The Worlds" bit, done at the
Waukegan Public [removed] it out - I think you'll like it!  Feel free
to leave a comment, [removed] enough people do, so we have no idea if anyone
visited, or if they like what we're putting up.

[removed]

Please give it a listen, it's HORRIBLE.  Wait - I mean [removed]

THANKS!

Stephen Jansen

Old Time Radio never dies, it just changes formats!

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:15:15 -0400
From: <georgewagner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: War of the Worlds - My 2 Cents (Plain)

    Richard, that has also been my impression, these past 35 or 40 years -
that Orson Welles' closing comments for the WOTW broadcast were very much
part of the original script.

     How else would he have ended things?

     Sincerely,

     George Wagner
     georgewagner@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:16:37 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Steve Allen & WotWorlds

Jim mentioned reading Steve Allen's remarks about War of the Worlds and his
experiences with his aunt.  I think those remarks are also on the 50th
anniversary broadcast on NPR, 1988.  I have the cassette in my collection,
and will share with other fans of old time radio.

Ted Kneebone. 1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401. Phone: 605-226-3344.

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