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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 447

Table Of Contents: 

	 "Sold Out" "Sold American?"
	 Tizzy Lish
	 Cabbages & Kings
	 Re: Dumb sidekicks
	 comment to Lupoff re morphing
	 O What a Tangled Webb!
	 Jack Webb Soundbytes
	 Re: Captain Tim Healy
	 Obit of Paul E. Harris from The Lone Ranger
	 Jazz Musician Dies `the Most Beautiful D
	 Maltese Falcon sequel
	 Jack Webb

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 08:14:58 EST
From: TBARNETT@[removed]
To:   otr@[removed]
Subject: "Sold Out" "Sold American?"
Message-Id: <m0vPq0x-000k9QC@[removed]>

To: SMTP    --AHIPC2S  OTR Digest

From:    Tom Barnett
         EDS NAO/VDTO Finance and Personnel Systems Support
         (810)986-0389 (8-226) Internet:TBARNETT@[removed]

Subject: "Sold Out" "Sold American?"

I have to agree with Dick Lupoff. The plagarizing of celebrity images can
get out of [removed]

8-9 years ago NIKE came out with a ad with the BEATLES song "Revolution"

Shortly after they were sued ny APPLE records (the Beatles label)
and said

                  "The Beatles DO NOT peddle sneakers nor hosiery!"
                               -- ---

For what it's [removed] .. .. ..

Tom Barnett
"There are no Ordinary moments." -Dan Millman

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:09:18 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Tizzy Lish
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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	I've heard of (her/him?), but can't place her.  I'm so embarrassed!
A Mr. Blackwell (I swear!) wrote to ask me about "an old-time drag act on 
radio".  Would Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou count?  Any others come to mind?
This is a serious question, so turn the closets of your mind inside-out for
any examples you can think of.  Ciao, babes. 

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:55:26 -0500
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cabbages & Kings
Message-ID: <961119095525_1251046918@[removed]>

The late Walter Kinsella often played the dim-witted sidekick to private
eyes; specifically for Martin Kane. Kinsella was also the Father on "Abie's
Irish Rose." I attended a "lambaste" (roast) for him in the late 60s at the
Lambs' Club in New York; his requested entertainment was a reunion of Smith &
Dale! Sadly, it was to be their last performance.

Add the "WLS National Barndance" to the shows entertaining the troups. I have
an NBC tape of the Banrdance in early 1942 from the Great Lakes Naval
Training Base, Ill. It features the early phonograph star Billy Murray! Songs
included "They Started Something, and We're Gonna End It", and Billy's
"Goodbye Mama, I'm Off to Yokahama".

Interesting to note that the son of "Captain Tim Healey" went on to become a
Jesuit Priest, Fordham U. professor, president of a Jesuit college, and head
of the NY Public Library!

BILL KNOWLTON

ps: Still wanna know who played wimpy Mr. Featherfield on the Milton Berle
radios hows. No, I don't think it was Arnold Stang.

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:53:47 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Dumb sidekicks
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Robert Kirk <kirk@[removed]> writes:
>John Henly wondered: 
>>(If any private-eye series approaches that appellation [crap], I'd 
>>vote for Mr. Keen.  Why would anybody of the slightest intelligence 
>>want to keep a goon like Mike Clancy around? ;^) )
>
>I've always thought that a dumb sidekick was necessary on any show that
>featured an Omnipotent Hero - and they all were, of course. Otherwise, any
>show with an OH would never be longer than the 5 minutes it would take
>for the genius to solve the crime.

Well, true, but on a more basic point, your average radio hero needs
someone to talk to, unless you have some unusually communicative sound
effects. In a whodunnit mystery in particular, when some process of
deduction is required in order to solve the mystery, the hero needs to
do his deducing out loud and reason out his theory, and the writer
needs someone other than the suspect(s) to serve as a sounding board.
Ergo, a sidekick is usually tossed in, and the dumber the sidekick,
the more detailed an explanation you can get away with:

MR. KEENE: So you see, Mike, by the process of electron flow, we can
illuminate the small metal filament in the bulb of this flashlight and
use it to illuminate the wall in this house, since you were unable to
locate a common wall switch in order to simply turn the lights on, and 
this will reveal the writing on the wall, which reads, "YES, I STRANGLED 
LORD PARKINGTON AND MADE IT LOOK LIKE A TRAGIC STAMP COLLECTING MISHAP
IN ORDER TO INHERIT HIS VALUABLE ESTATE. SIGNED, LADY ABIGAIL."

MIKE CLANCY: Saints preserve us, Mr. Keene, you've done it again!

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 09:31 CST
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed], Bigkids@[removed]
Subject: comment to Lupoff re morphing
Message-Id: <m0vPs9V-000kBXC@[removed]>

Dick asked:
>What if the estate of Deceased Celebrity X sells the use of his/her image to
>promote a product of which Celebrity X would never have approved?
and then invited comments.

I just have this one:  There's no good reason to assume that when those
celebrities are alive and doing endorsements, they approve of the products.
 What they approve of are the paychecks.  
Although, that may be less true nowadays, when performers of all stripes
consider themselves experts on world affairs.

I'm not picking a fight, Dick - you pose interesting questions.
John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:59:20 -0700
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: O What a Tangled Webb!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Maybe we should all stop pickin' on BigKids Lupoff, but he introduces
(and follows through) with such commentable topics that we just can't
help ourselves.  (In real life, people rarely refer to each other in third
person, but it just seems more grammatically gooder in print.)  So, when
he comments that he feels Jack Webb's Joe Friday is a fascist (I think
what he meant was "a boring square" to contradict Nick at Nite), he
explains why by the following.

<<There's never any questioning of himself, his own morality, or the
rightness of the law. Nor is any questioning ever permitted of the
authority of the police. You can see it, somehow, even in the ricky-ticky,
inhuman, wind-up-doll walk that Webb had.

<<We all know how tight Webb was with the LAPD, and we all know the
disgrace that various members of the LAPD, from Chief down to Patrol
Officer, have brought upon their uniforms and their offices in recent
years.

<<Webb must be whirling in his grave.>>>

Dick is describing a character who believes in the ideal of what he does,
who has a Kingsfield-like belief in the law as an equalizer and defense,
and who holds out a hope for the common person's honesty.  An
enforcer of the law, believing in the dream, will hold forth and fast to a
belief in the essential rightness of the law.  Friday insisted that there is a
good and evil, and worked to discipline himself to Do Good.  Even, as
seemed evident in the 2d TV series, at the expense of a private life. 
(Joe's partners always had real lives outside the job.  Did Joe?)

Joe Friday, the character, was humorless to us, but I could imagine him
writing the same thing which a local policeman wrote:  "As you might
expect, I don't have a lot of good to say about lawyers.  It's only natural
since my job is to put rat bags in jail while a lawyer's job seems to be not
only to get those same people out of jail, but make themselves rich in the
bargain."

All in all, I still prefer the Friday we hear on OTR - he's a little more
idealistic, a little less calloused -- a little (have to say it) younger and
perhaps that explains why he seemed to stiffen up by the time of the
1968 show.  Gotta love the guy for hanging in there, still trying.

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quote of the day:  "It takes a lot of courage to say always what you
think.
The trouble is, we think things sometimes we ought not to say."  --J.
Golden Kimball

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:13:57 GMT
From: lgenco@[removed] (Lou Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jack Webb Soundbytes
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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OTR Digest readers who have been reading about Jack Webb might enjoy
my collection of short Webb soundbytes.  Jeff Regan, Pat Novak and
Dragnet are all represented.

You can follow the pointers at my site, or take a shortcut to
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(You will need a RA player to hear the bytes)


Lou
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THE WWW site for "Old Time Radio":               [removed]
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:08:28 -0500
From: OTRDSIEGEL@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Captain Tim Healy
Message-ID: <961119120828_1783319463@[removed]>

  A subscriber recently inquired about a program featuring Capt. Tim Healy.
In addition to his "famous" stamp programs he also did a talk show with his
wife. I have two episodes (1/28/45) and (9/26/45) and a kid's adventure
program called ADVENTURES WITH CAPTAIN TIM. I have one entitled "Plunge In
The Dark".  He was not a great star of otr but, like Frank Buck and others,
used radio to enhance his "other careers" (whatever they may have been).
 Dave Siegel

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:28:49 GMT
From: rwright@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Obit of Paul E. Harris from The Lone Ranger
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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The following obit was recently published in my local paper:

Paul E. Harris, acted in radio's "Lone Ranger"

Buffalo, NY---Paul E. Harris, who acted in early radio broadcasts of
the "Lone Ranger" series in the 1920s and 1930s, usually as the bad
guy, died Nov 2 at age 86.
	An actor in various radio and stage shows, Mr. Harris retired as
corporate secretary of the Berlitz Schools of Language.
	He acted in the "Lone Ranger" series when it was part of WEBR's
"Covered Wagon Days."
	"I was always the bad guy unless John Barrett didn't show
up---then I was the Lone Ranger," he recalled.
---------------------------------
Compiled from reports by the Associated Press and the Los Angeles
Times.



None of my reference books have anything about Paul E. Harris; a Lone
Ranger radio show in the 1920s, WEBR's "Covered Wagon Days. or a John
Barrett playing the Lone Ranger. Did an obit writer get the facts
confused? Any info about this rather confusing obit would be
appreciated.
-------------
Richard
aka rwright@[removed]

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Date: Tuesday, 19 Nov 96 11:35:03 CST
From: John F Henley <lfjh@[removed]>
To:  <OTR@[removed]>
Subject: Jazz Musician Dies `the Most Beautiful D
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

                     Associated Press, 11/18/96; 14:06

                     SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (AP) - A
                     79-year-old jazz musician making her theater
                     debut as a spirit passing into heaven played
                     her last note and died on stage of an apparent
                     heart attack.

                     Deedie Ball performed in the play, then
                     collapsed at the piano while playing a musical
                     introduction for the next act.

                     ``It was the most beautiful death I've ever
                     seen,'' said Karen Hammon, a friend in the
                     audience Friday night. ``It seemed like a
                     perfect way for a musician to be able to leave:
                     doing what they love to do on stage in front of
                     a piano.''

                     Ball performed in an all-female local broadcast
                     show in the 1940s and '50s, played on the
                     Kay Starr radio show as a soloist, performed
                     in clubs, wrote songs and traveled the world
                     with jazz groups.

Forwarded by John Henley 11/19

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:57:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Charles Ulrich <culrich@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Maltese Falcon sequel
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]> wrote:

> Howard Duff played Sam in a Suspense (?) show I have at home.  The
> title slips my mind, but it seems to have included Sidney Greenstreet
> again -- and it was an honest-to-Mergatroid SEQUEL to *the Maltese
> Falcon*.  This time, Gutman and Company (without Wilmer, who seems to
> have somehow been mistaken for Gutman when shot and killed in *tMF*)
> are after yet another artifact.  They never [removed]

"The Khandi Tooth" was on Suspense, January 10, 1948. Hans Conried was
also in the cast.

--Charles

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:07:24 -0800 (PST)
From: BURT WILSON <futurecon@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Webb
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Dick Lupoff says Jack Webb was "playing" an "up-tight, cast-iron-riged"
police officer?  Jack Web WAS uptight and cast-iron riged!  The problem with
Webb was (and I admit he had a great voice) that he had this narrow,
uptight, cast-iron  view of the world which he insisted on forcing on the
public.  Lupoff has it right!

Webb insisted on dealing only in stereotypes because that was his view of
the world--simple and uncomplex.  So he used stereotypes to bring listeners
and viewers to his point of view.  He poisend the well to his heart's
content and laughed at his critics, knowing that it is far easier to
champion pre-conceived notions than to explain the paradox of life.

As a Dixieland musician for the past 50 years, I and my musical buddies
eagerly awaited "Pete Kelly's Blues."  We were all disappointed in the
stereotypical
presentation of Webb's world of jazz--a white world "covering" black music.  

As a political activist who once sued the Los Angeles Police Department's
Pubic Disorder and Intelligence (?) Division for illegal surveillance AND
WON, I am
incensed at Webb's patrician view of law enforcement especially his view of
all policemen as benevolent protectors and all Blacks as either "Uncle Tom's" or
law-breakers. 

I think the job of policeman who fulfills his duty to protect and serve the
community is nothing less than heroic and they deserve lots more
understanding than that of a simple stereotyping of a Jack Webb--and any of
hiw would-be pretenders.
 
Burt Wilson



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