Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #173
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Date: 5/12/2002 9:03 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 173
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  This is your life                     [ ClifSr@[removed] ]
  Return Those Golden Days of Yesterye  [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Pete Kelly's Blues Radio shows. Hard  [ StepToons@[removed] ]
  Pete Kelly's Blues Hoosier connectio  [ "Hoosierwood" <hoosierwood@onemain. ]
  Re: Top Cat/ Phil Silvers             [ Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed] ]
  85                                    [ "Harry Bartell" <harverly1@charter. ]
  Benny                                 [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
  Arnold Stang                          [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Elizabeth, this is a serious questio  [ bloodbleeds@[removed] ]
  16" Glass Transcription Question      [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
  Re: "Calvin" reruns                   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Fred Flowerday and Jim Jewell         [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:48:32 -0400
From: ClifSr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  This is your life

Help!  A friend wants to do an authentic "This is your life" tribute,
complete with the original theme music.  Was this Ralph Edwards show  ever on
radio?  I have found one source of used videos where you get on a waiting
list in case one shows up. I'm hoping there might some radio tapes in
circulation. Anybody out there have one, and was the same music used on radio
 and TV?  My local reputation for finding obscure stuff is on the line!
E-mail me if you can bail me out.  ClifSr@[removed]. Thanks.

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:48:52 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Return Those Golden Days of Yesteryear

Speaking of the OTR "experience," John Meyer notes,

One aspect of radio that is forgotten is the visual. Rarely did a
family sit around the living room staring at the console, as is often
depicted. Mostly we sat around, if we had an hour's leisure, looking at
each other, sharing our reactions to the comedy, the suspense or the
terror:

The only place I saw a depiction of people sitting around a living room
staring at a console was in ads for a radio being hawked.  As Titus Moody
once said on the Fred Allen show, radio was "furniture that talks."

John M. added,

Often, though, we did other things while we listened. <<

That was and is one of radio's great strengths.  With a TV show or
videotape/DVD, you have to remain fairly stationary to see what's going
on.  You have no such restriction, even today, with radio.  Those who
listen to one of the vestiges of OTR, Paul Harvey, can be driving,
cooking, or anything else that doesn't require the listener to listen to
something else.  I've heard local and/or national call-in talk shows in a
number of shops I've done business with, yet commerce goes on.

Even when listening to Captain Midnight in my room, I could be hunting up
writing materials when the announcer alerted us to a pending Secret
Squadron Signal Session at the close of the adventure.  OTR freed us to
do things in parallel with our listening, and this is one reason I think
there's a place for OSR in the 21st Century.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:48:58 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

  From Those Were The Days --

1946 - Jack Barry hosted Juvenile Jury on WOR radio in New York City.
The show was such a hit after five weeks on the air that it debuted on
the Mutual Broadcasting System coast to coast.

  Joe

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Visit my home page:
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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:24:53 -0400
From: StepToons@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Pete Kelly's Blues Radio shows. Hard to find?

Hello, Gang.
Since the subject has come up about Pete Kelly's Blues I thought I'd ask if
anyone knows if there are many of the old shows available?
I could only find two episodes (The shy woman & Kelly is kidnapped) and they
include some of the best timed wise cracking, hard-boiled dialog I've ever
heard on a radio show. In "The Shy Woman" there is a scene where a gangster
slaps Pete into the table along with a trade of dialog and sound effects that
is amazing. I've played this particular episode for some friends and I always
get the same "Holy cow" reaction.
I would love to unearth some more gems like this.
Anyone?
Step

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:25:06 -0400
From: "Hoosierwood" <hoosierwood@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Pete Kelly's Blues Hoosier connection

The trumpet was played by Dick Cathcart (
[removed],+Dick ) from Michigan City, IN.  I need to
do more research on is Hollywood career. Any help would be welcomed.

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:45:34 -0400
From: Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Top Cat/ Phil Silvers

I seem to recall a carton character named Hokey Wolf whose voice was
patterned after that of Phil Silvers.

I really liked Top Cat when I was a kid.

Steve
--
Steve Salaba

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 14:21:06 -0400
From: Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 85

Art Funk writes

"Hey, where have we seen that guy/gal before?" or "Geez, that guy
must be 85 years old by now."

To those of us who might wish to be only 85 again, that sounds a tad harsh.

Harry Bartell

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 17:34:53 -0400
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Benny

I've received  a lot of flack regarding my e-mail regarding
the actor who provided the voice of "Benny the Ball" on the
cartoon "Top Cat".  The actors name was Maurice Gosfield
and the voice of the main character (Top Cat) was Arnold
Stang.  Althought, if you'll notice, I NEVER stated that Paul
Freeman was definitely the voice of Benny.  I merely proposed
that due to the similarity of names (Paul Freeman/Freeman
Gosden) he might want to checkout the [removed]
website for further info.

The similarities to the Sgt. Bilko are unmistakeable.  I remember
him in "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" with Jonathan Winters
(a classic), "The Henry Morgan Show" (although from what I've read,
he wasn't too pleased with HM) and Frank Sinatra's bar buddy in "The
Man With The Golden Arm" (who wore a tee shirt, vest, and a cap with
an oversized bill.  It was one of the most frightening films aside from
the
black and white version of  "Madame X" with Lana Turner, which I've ever
seen in my entire life.)

My question to the mailing list is this: Can you think of any OTR actors
who had an OTR which, didn't match up to it's film version?  One which
springs to mind is Barbara Stanwyck's interpretation of "Sorry, Wrong
Number".  Loni Anderson's version on TV wasn't up to the same level.
Contact me off list  with your responses.  Remember, too, that opinions
are subjective.

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 17:50:49 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Arnold Stang

Arnold Stang was also a regular on The Milton Berle Show on radio.

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:23:42 -0400
From: bloodbleeds@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Elizabeth, this is a serious question

I don't mean this funny or negative in ANY way, but I have to ask this question after seeing 
your detailed answers on every subject - radio, tv and movie - put here: is there anything you 
Don't know? 

You must live in a library. It's truly amazing what you come up with on this list. 

Did you see The Time Machine from 1960? I'm curious what 3 books YOU would take, at 
the end of that film?

In awe, 

Ben Ohmart

The Great Gildersleeve book
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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:33:38 -0400
From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  16" Glass Transcription Question

Here is an odd situation. A friend of mine dropped off some glass discs for
me to transfer to CD. As I was thumbing through them I noticed that they
were all Classical Music, most likely taken off the air. There is no
commercial label, no identifying marks, other than what's hand written on
the sleeve. I seriously doubt these are 'homemade' copies, so I would guess
that they were done "on the side" by someone who had access to the proper
equipment. Can anyone shed some light on this, Elizabeth, Michael, anyone? I
know some people had some transcription recorders, but I thought they were
just the 4" or 5" 78 RPM discs.
Thanks
Shawn

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 20:06:19 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: "Calvin" reruns

Eric Cooper wrote:

Question for Elizabeth. Why can't I see Calvin and the Colonel on the
Cartoon Network or in general syndication? Was it never a syndicated
re-run?

"Calvin and the Colonel" has shown up in syndication from time to time --
I've heard reports of it showing up in weird time slots on backwater UHF
stations as late as the 1980s -- but it has the disadvantage of having
only 22 episodes. That's not really enough for five-a-week stripping --
it would start repeating in a little over a month -- so the program
didn't have much success in reruns.

There were also feelings at the time that the plots and humor were too
complicated for a kid audience -- while "Calvin" had started as a
prime-time series targeted to adults, ABC lost its nerve halfway thru the
1961-62 season, and moved the show to Saturday morning -- where it got a
reputation as a failed kiddie series.

The series is currently gathering dust in the MCA/Universal vaults, but
since Universal hasn't shown much interest in exploiting its animation
properties other than the occasional halfhearted "Woody Woodpecker"
collection, there doesn't seem to be much chance of it showing up
anywhere any time soon. For the series to appear on the Cartoon Network,
it would have to be licensed by Turner/Time-Warner -- and they're
understandably more interested in exploiting their own animation
properties than in licensing outside programming.

While ABC only showed the program in black and white -- and most of the
unlicensed bootleg videos floating around come from B&W 16mm prints --
the series was actually filmed in color, and the animation was actually
quite striking in an early-sixties kind of way. "Calvin" is a long long
way from Correll and Gosden's best work -- but for what it was, it was
well done, and an authorized video or DVD release of the series, in
color, would be worth seeing.

While you're waiting for "Calvin" to resurface, you could always collect
some of the licensed merchandise related to the series. For a
single-season program, it generated considerable interest from the
merchandisers -- there were comic books, coloring books, a board game,
and a few other trinkets. Lately original animation cels from the series
have been showing up on eBay, for those interested in the ultimate
obscure Correll and Gosden collectible.

Elizabeth

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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 21:03:18 -0400
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fred Flowerday and Jim Jewell

Jim Lawrence asked what happened to Fred Flowerday and
Jim Jewell. While I can't answer that question myself,
he may find the answer in David Rothel's book, "Who
was that Masked Man." It's out of print, but some
public libraries carry it. It's been a while since
I've seen it, but I believe it had information on all
the Lone Ranger cast and crew.

Additionally, the Detroit News publishes annual
indexes of articles going back many years (like the
Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature). Those might
provide obituary information, if applicable.

Finally, Lone Ranger researcher Terry Salomonson might
be of help. I don't know how to contact him, but
someone else here might.

Rick

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