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Date: 1/14/2004 9:24 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 18
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Dragnet, Richard Diamond & DVDs   [ Steve Lewis <lewis@[removed]; ]
      ATKINS 10 CENTS FOR DECODER           [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      1-14 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      THE ORIGIN OF DOOZY                   [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
      POT ROAST                             [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
      this is [removed]                       [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Martha Wentworth LP                   [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
      RE: Jerry Haendiges                   [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      This and That                         [ "Albert" <alkb2ng@[removed]; ]
      Mysterian                             [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Fw: Lone Ranger spot                  [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Benny singers and smokin'             [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      OTR references                        [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      Re: organ music                       [ "Clifton Martin" <martbart@peoplepc ]
      Longest Running Actors in Prime Time  [ Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      Greatest Enetertainer of All Time     [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
      Re: OTR pet names, Glenn Miller       [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      "The Littlest Angel"                  [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
      pet names                             [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
      the littlest angel                    [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:55:02 -0500
    From: Steve Lewis <lewis@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Dragnet, Richard Diamond & DVDs

    On an earlier digest posting, MICHAEL BIEL said:

>      I've gotten several multi-DVD boxes with early 50s B&W Dragnets.
>      Both sets also contained other detective shows, such as Peter
>     Gunn.  Average condition 16mm prints, not

    >from original masters, but the Dragnets had very good sound quality.

    Michael

    I just got a DVD player and the what I bought next was a bargain two-DVD
    set of old TV detective dramas, maybe the one you mention above with
    Dragnets [OTR connection] and Peter Gunn, one of my all-time favorite shows.

    The first show was Richard Diamond, however.  [OTR connection]  I was all
    set to sit back and watch -- and there's this color logo in the lower
    right-hand corner of the screen.  A black and white show, and this stupid
    yellow and orange and white logo.  I turned it off.  Except for sports and
    the news, I have to force myself to watch TV with logos in the corner.  Am
    I the only one?

    And if the standard format for DVDs is that they come with stupid,
    obnoxious logos in the corner of the screen, that's the end of them for me
    too.  I certainly am not going to pay for them.
                                     Best

                                      Steve

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:23:39 -0500
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  ATKINS 10 CENTS FOR DECODER

    "...just send in the label and one THIN [removed]"

    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:47:32 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-14 births/deaths

    January 14th births

    01-14-1892 - Hal Roach - Elmira, NY - d. 11-2-1992
    film producer, actor: Hollywood Hotel"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-14-1901 - Bebe Daniels - Dallas, TX - d. 3-16-1971
    actress: "Louella Parsons"
    01-14-1906 - William Bendix - NYC - d. 12-14-1964
    actor: Chester A. Riley "Life of Riley"
    01-14-1908 - Russ Columbo - Camden, NJ - d. 9-2-1934
    singer, bandleader: "Russ Columbo Show"
    01-14-1909 - Joseph Losey - La Crosse, WI - d. 6-22-1984
    director: "Words at War"
    01-14-1911 - David Gothard - Beardstown, IL - d. 8-2-1977
    actor: Gil Whitney "Romance of Helen Trent"; Nick Charles "Advs. of the Thin
    Man"
    01-14-1915 - George Ansbro - Brooklyn, NY
    announcer: "Young Widder Brown"; "Waltz Time"
    01-14-1915 - Mark Goodson - Sacramento, CA - d. 12-18-1992
    producer, director: "Portia Faces Life"; "Stop the Music"
    01-14-1919 - Andy Rooney - Albany, NY
    writer: "Red Skelton Show"; "Arthur Godfrey"

    January 14th deaths

    01-27-1921 - Donna Reed - Dennison, IA - d. 1-14-1986
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Star and the Story"; "Silver Theatre"
    08-19-1889 - Don "Uncle Don" Carney - St. Joseph, MO - d. 1-14-1954
    host: "Uncle Don"; "Friendship Village"; "Dog Chats"
    09-28-1916 - Peter Finch - London, England - d. 1-14-1977
    actor: Australian Radio
    12-25-1899 - Humphrey Bogart - NYC - d. 1-14-1957
    actor: Slate Shannon "Bold Venture"; "Stars in the Air"; "Streamlined
    Shakespeare"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:47:37 -0500
    From: PURKASZ@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  THE ORIGIN OF DOOZY
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            I too used to think that word originated from the Duesenberg,
    especially after I sat in one, a 1929 that used to belong to Tom Mix and one
    we were
    using for a scene in "Sunset" with Bruce Willis playing Tom.
         I was playing a kidnapper on the other side of the law that day but the
    chance to sit in the 'Doozy' made me slightly crazed, especially since I
    collected old cars and had a '41 Packard, '36 Buick and '35 Ford back at my
    home in
    Hollywood.
         The owner had a velvet rope around the thing so that no one even got
    close.
         He was a friendly guy and new me from the movies and allowed as how my
    drooling ought to be rewarded. He opened the door and I stepped up and in and
    was immediately impressed with how HUGE the thing was.
         Even a big man would look like a child sitting in this thing.
         The leather, the wood, beyond description.
         The steering wheel was like grabbing hold of a polished wagon wheel.
         Anyway, he told me the story of the origin of the word and it all seemed
    so right at the time.
         That was 1988.
         However, as I am now very close to a woman who speaks Polish, I have
    been lately impressed with several words in that language that seem to have
    been
    origins of some of our popular and even dated expressions.
         Especially after the Polish have been coming to America since Kosciusko
    fought with Washington during the American Revolution.
         One of those words is the word for 'big.'
         Not sure of the spelling but the pronunciation in Polish is "Doozha."
         The word for your butt is also interesting.
         Pronounced "Dupa" it could be the beginning of Super-Duper.
         Love the living English language.
         Maddening but oh so alive and always changing.
                        Michael C. Gwynne

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:19:14 -0500
    From: PURKASZ@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  POT ROAST
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            I like Hal Stone's explanation of the laughter around the use of the
    word 'Pot' during a broadcast. I too can see Phil Harris mugging and miming a
    'hit' on a cigarette.
         I would quibble with his usage of the phrase "Flower-Child" and
    "Beatnik" in the same breath though. They were in fact sequential generations
    rather
    than simultaneous.
         Flower Children were a product if the '60s of course and Beats from the
    '50s.
         The coded references to Marijuana go way back to the beginning of the
    Twentieth Century at the very least and in fact the jazz clarinetist Mez
    Mezzro,
    not to be confused with Miff Mole, coined the term 'Muggles' in a book he
    wrote many years ago.   A word which we now recognize as either an 'in' joke
    from
    Ms. Rawling or the possibility that she's being channeled by long dead New
    Orleans Jazz musicians and having the same heady effect on the youth of today
    as
    it always has.
         Just a whimsy.
                 Michael C. Gwynne

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:55:26 -0500
    From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  this is [removed]

    Thanks to everyone for the great info on hotels and gasoline, especially Alan
    Chapman, Herb Harrison, Mark Kinsler, Bill H, and especially Stephen Kallis.
    Though I am disappointed to find out that the Captain Midnight airline map
    wasn't nearly as cool as it sounds on the show.

    -chris holm

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:55:49 -0500
    From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Martha Wentworth LP
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    For Dennis [removed] brought up actress, Martha Wentworth (from THE CINNAMON
    BEAR and THE WHISTLER).

    I'm probably one of the few people who has an old 33 1/3 Stereo LP of TERROR
    TALES by the Old Sea Hag.  Martha Wentworth not only played the title
    [removed] voiced all the other characters (male and female) on the
    album.  The 2-channel stereo would make the technical people chuckle, but Ms
    Wentworth's performances are very good.

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:56:27 -0500
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE: Jerry Haendiges

    I've noticed some surprisingly negative posts in recent digests, and with
    malice toward none, I wish to offer my own experience.  I'm by no means a
    steady customer, but have ordered cassettes and CDs from Jerry off and on
    for about three years.  Response time has always been prompt, and he's
    usually thrown in a few extras for free depending on how much room is left
    on the tapes.  And, of course, his "pay upon receipt" policy is unique.
    Last year, I sent him updates for a certain log and he graciously sent me
    two programs from the series in question.  About the only downside I've
    noticed is that my updates haven't yet made it online - but then, life does
    get tend to get in the way of our hobbies now and then.

    Michael

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:56:56 -0500
    From: "Albert" <alkb2ng@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This and That

    Minerva, of course, was the cat that belonged to Mrs. Davis, Miss Brooks'
    landlady on Our Miss Brooks.

    The story I once heard is that William Conrad was offered the role of Matt
    Dillon on the TV version of Gunsmoke, but he declined because he felt that
    the series would never last on television.

    Finally,  I recently caught just a part of an episode of Sgt. Preston of
    the Yukon, and one of the supporting characters sounded to me exactly like
    Brace Beemer.  Is that possible?  I know that both series did originate at
    WXYZ in Detroit, but would the mighty Lone Ranger play bit part on that
    "northern western?"

    Regards,
    Albert J. Kopec

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:57:24 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mysterian

    Joe Politis noted,

>     I have a cat named Minerva.  I'll leave it to you to guess what was my
>     favorite OTR show as a kid.

    Suspense?  ;-)

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:23:01 -0500
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fw: Lone Ranger spot

     Last night as I was flipping channels, I came across a promotional spot for
     the National Mentoring program, or something like that, in which an old
     comic artist is speaking about the benefits of mentoring. They show close
     ups of a Lone Ranger comic strip and for audio bed have some of the
     statements from the opening of either the radio or TV program, not sure
     which. Kind of exciting to hear that in such a context.

     Joe Salerno
     Video Works! Is it working for you?
     PO Box 273405 - Houston TX 77277-3405 [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:04:53 -0500
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Benny singers and smokin'
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    Robert and Emily Burdick wrote:

>     I think that fellow who was talking about JACK BENNY AN HIS HIGH PITCHED
>     SINGER I BELIEVE WAS DENNIS DAY IF
>     I REMEMBER RIGHT.

    I think I missed the question that prompted this, but Jack had multiple
    tenors on his program.  Kenny Baker was also a well-known one, and Larry
    Stevens
    filled in for Dennis Day during his Navy stint.  If you need more information
    on
    the early ones, let me know.

    And thanks to Hal Stone for the comment on "my pot roast".  While familiar
    with the term, I tend to turn off a lot of my more "modern" preconceptions
    when
    I'm listening to Benny shows, lest I join the ranks of people who interpret
    Jack and Rochester as a homosexual couple.  It's a good point, and not
    something
    that I would have figured out on my own.  We didn't get to recording the
    introductory notes for that show for Walden's Yesterday USA Benny segment, so
    will
    have to include that next time (with appropriate credit to Hal, of course).
    Thanks!

    Oh by the way, I found an even longer laugh than the Snow White and the Seven
    Gangsters bit.  See [removed] for more information.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:02:48 -0500
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR references

    Last night I was listening to an episode of 'The Aldrich Family' in which
    Henry and Homer each ordered 'skyscrapers' at the soda fountain.   Since
    this was a program I listened to as a youngster and since I grew up in the
    NY area where the show originated I was surprised that I was hearing that
    term for the first time.  Means nothing to me -- who was an excellent soda
    jerk at my Dad's place.  Maybe it's a sandwich??

    -Irene

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:29:36 -0500
    From: "Clifton Martin" <martbart@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: organ music

    Larry Albert answered his own  question about OTR organ
    music very well:  Cheap (as opposed to an orchestra)
    and it makes lots of sounds. No doubt my fellow
    theater pipe organ freaks will come out of the woodwork
    to expound on that magnifricent instrument at length.
    almost all large stations and some not so large owned a
    theater style pipe organ and had a  staff organist to
    standby waiting to fill in when the net line died.  the
    fellow who invented the theater organ didn't even call
    it an organ, but a "unit orchestra," a whole orchestra
    in one unit, playable by one person.  The particualr
    voicing of the theatrical instruments was designed not
    to edify, as with a great church organ, but to
    entertain, whether accompanying silent films or later
    to make wonderful mood music for radio shows. So far as
    I know, there is only playable radio station pipe organ
    still in its original studio, at WMBI in Chicago.  Now
    isn't that more than you wanted to know, Larry?

    Clif Martin

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:30:05 -0500
    From: Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed];
    To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Longest Running Actors in Prime Time

    It wasn't prime time, but we have to recognize Virginia Payne, the
    actress who played Ma Perkins for an astonishing 7,065 consecutive
    broadcasts, beginning Dec. 4, 1933, and ending Nov. 25, 1960 - almost
    27 years of daily shows, according to John Dunning's Tune In Yesterday
    (pp. 383-85).

    Art Chimes

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:43:21 -0500
    From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Greatest Enetertainer of All Time

    I was astounded when on the People's Choice Awards, "the people" voted
    Tom Hanks as the greatest entertainer of all time.  He's a great movie actor,
    no question, but to my mind he shouldn't have even been considered as a
    candidate, let alone a finalist and ultimate winner.  The other two finalists
    were
    Clint Eastwood and Bill Cosby.

    That leads to my question.  Who do you think really was the greatest
    enetertainer
    of all time?  I can think of several possible candidates:
    Bing Crosby
    Frank Sinatra
    Bob Hope
    Al Jolson
    Judy Garland
    Jackie Gleason
    Steve Allen
    Lucille Ball
    Carol Burnett
    Tim Conway

    Of course there are others worthy of consideration, but lets have some fun and
    choose
    our own Greatest Entertainer of All Time - the real one.

    Al Girard

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:45:13 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: OTR pet names,  Glenn Miller

       I have two cats, one named Molly McGee, who while unassuming, is
    really the boss of the house and keeps me in line.  The other is Blanche
    Bickerson DuBois.  When Blanche first moved in she would wake me in the
    middle of the night.  At the time I was only keeping her until the
    person she owned claimed her (she was a stray, but well taken care of,
    that a neighbour found) and didn't want to give her a name.  You know
    what happens when you name a animal.  Anyway, one night after she woke
    me I said absently mindedly "Oh Blanche, let me sleep" and that became
    her name!  (The DuBois part comes from Streetcar Named Desire and
    Blanche DuBois who "depended in the kindness of strangers".)

    A. Joseph Ross posed --

> >     most likely it was "bombed" out of the sky by a returning flight of
> >     Lancaster bombers which had to abort their mission

>     I thought the speculation was that it had crashed due to freezing on
>     the wings.  The weather was icey, and the plane lacked de-icing gear.

       There was a program on, I think, The History Channel (or maybe
    Discovery) a couple of years ago about this.  It was reported at the
    time the plane had crashed due to icing, however, RAF pilots returning
    from a bombing run had left over bombs on board their craft (forget why,
    something malfunctioned I think) and with the plane in bad shape it was
    decided to dump the bombs over the channel.  When the bombs were dropped
    Miller's plane happened to be in the wrong place and was hit.  This was
    supposedly covered up for many decades.
       Of course should his plane ever be found the mystery should be
    solved, one way or the other.
       Joe

    --
    Visit my slightly updated (1/1/04) homepage:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:45:44 -0500
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "The Littlest Angel"

    Ian Grieve asks about  "The Littlest Angel."

    Decca Records released a boxed set of three 45RPM records (Album Number
    9-68) featuring Loretta Young reading Charles Tazewell's script,  "The
    Littlest Angel."  His  original story was written in 1946 and published by
    the Children's Press.

    I have the boxed set, picked up at an antiques fair for $5.   Charles Paul
    wrote the score, with Victor Young directing the orchestra.  The Ken Darby
    Choir is prominently featured. It's a wonderful listening experience for
    child and parent alike

    I would be glad to share, Ian.

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:38:42 -0500
    From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  pet names

    My friend Derek called for pet names taken from Old Time Radio. Being a huge
    fan of Lum and Abner, I wanted to name our new puppy after one of the
    residents of Pine Ridge. I settled on "Grandpap". Thought it would be funny
    to see guests reactions when they heard: "Oh, no. Grandpap made another mess
    on the floor." "We'll have to tie him to a tree in the backyard." etc.
    Needless to say, I was overruled by the wife and kids.

    Mike Leannah
    Sheboygan, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:15:07 -0500
    From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  the littlest angel

    The Littlest Angel was on family theater, if not other places.  I don't
    have the date here but I listened to it before Christmas.  Taswell may
    also have written The Tongueless Ones with Gregory Peck, and I wish there
    were better copies around.  Kurt

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