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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 01 : Issue 206
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Archie Episodes available [[removed]@[removed] ]
Re: Younger Generation [Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
End of Soap Operas [otrbuff@[removed] ]
Bill Thompson ("OldTimer" "Mr. Wimpl [SacChief@[removed] ]
Benny, Allen and McGee [PFornatar@[removed] ]
Get em up who? [ARago17320@[removed] ]
Re:Some questions [Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]]
Re: Straight =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arrow=99 [John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
Re:Miss Kitty and my two cents worth [Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]]
Rosemary DeCamp autobiography ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
To Harry Bartell [Alan Bell <bella@[removed];]
Benny vs. [removed](Fibber Mc Gee) ["Tim Lones" <tallones@[removed]; ]
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [lois@[removed] ]
Benny/Allen ["Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl]
Dunning Book Review [Kubelski@[removed] ]
Re:Jolson Remembered [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
Time for Love ["Christian Blees" <christian-blees@]
Dwight Weist [Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
THANK YOU ONE AND ALL ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:39:31 -0400
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Archie Episodes available
Elisabeth replied to Hal's query about episodes of Archie still available
with:-
While I'm not sure how many "Archie" programs are in current
circulation,
at least 127 exist at the Library of Congress.
To which Hal's reply was :-
WOW! THAT MANY! I ONLY HAVE ABOUT TEN THAT I PICKED UP BY CHANCE AT A
CONVENTION.
To which my reply is :-
How on earth do we get our hands on them ? Or are they locked away in a
vault somewhere, never to be release ????
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:58:43 -0400
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Younger Generation
Sean Dougherty was talking about who still remembers people like Jack Benny
and Fred Allen. It brought to mind something that happened just last week.
A local college has a summer program for teenagers. Someone I know runs the
class on radio production. She is the one who asked me to bring in a radio
script so the students could produce it. We did Baby Snooks and thanks to
several of you on this list, I was also able to play the show for the
students so they could hear what it sounded like.
Well, anyway, during the introduction to the Baby Snooks show, the teacher
was trying to explain who Fanny Brice was. I had mentioned her name and of
course the class just starred. So, the teacher said, "who remember the
movie Funny Girl?" and again the class just starred.
At that point we both realized just how old we were and how young those
teenagers were.
Fred
For the best in Old Time Radio Shows [removed]
New e-commerce page [removed]
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:37:51 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: End of Soap Operas
Tony Bell says he seems to recall I have a book coming out on radio soap
operas. I assure everybody I didn't put him up to that. That volume,
"The Great Radio Soap Operas," was released by McFarland & Co. in July
1999 so it's been highlighting the stories of those narratives for some
time. (You can order from McFarland at 1-800-253-2187.)
I have some more books in the pipeline that McFarland is also scheduled
to release since we're on that subject. May I share this with you?
"The Great Radio Audience Participation Shows" is scheduled for release
in September.
There will be a volume on radio in the decade of the 1950s issued in
2002. The title isn't yet settled but the working moniker is: "Sunset
on the Ether: Network Radio's Grand Finale." (This one, incidentally,
includes substantive information on the demise of the aural soap operas
as well as all the other genres of radio entertainment.)
There will be an all-inclusive volume on all of the radio
mystery-detective-crime series, including those for adults and juveniles,
in 2003. The working title is: "The Complete, Unabridged Encyclopedia
of Radio Crimefighters."
Tony is correct that CBS swept out the final vestiges of radio soap opera
on Nov. 25, 1960, a fact we have discussed many times on this forum. He
asked when NBC sent its soap operas to that great serial warehouse in the
sky. It did so piecemeal: the final trio departed separately, but all
in 1959, as follows: Pepper Young's Family (Jan. 2), The Woman in My
House (April 24), and One Man's Family (May 8). Others had departed
earlier. Most of NBC's best recalled and most durable daytime serials
([removed], Just Plain Bill, Lorenzo Jones, Stella Dallas, Young Widder Brown,
et al) had been handed pink slips around mid decade, several of them to
make way for NBC's new programming innovation Weekday. That venture
turned out to be a flop and left the air within a few months. By then,
old habits with longstanding serials had been broken, and NBC's daytime
agenda was never to command the powerful audience it had maintained for
decades, even though the network made a futile attempt to respond with
the addition of a handful of newly-created serials. The halcyon days for
NBC daytime (except for weekends, with Monitor) were definitely over.
Tony also inquired if ABC and MBS carried soap operas. Yes, by all means
. . . MBS, a few in the 1930s and 1940s (Front Page Farrell, for
instance, began there). ABC (actually, then NBC Blue) was a soap opera
powerhouse until the early 1940s when it decided to delete all of them.
It did so for about a decade, then made a futile attempt in the early
1950s to jump back into the fray with nearly a dozen "retreads" --
washboard weepers that had been on other networks and had gone off the
air, plus it acquired one of the most successful, When a Girl Marries,
from NBC. It was too little too late and most of them (except for When a
Girl Marries) departed within a few months. WAGM continued to plod
along, however, occasionally with one other serial being aired on ABC but
mostly by itself as a true open-ended drama (those that literally never
came to conclusion). It was able to hang on through Aug. 30, 1957
somehow, then departed, leaving ABC with no more open-ended daytime
dramas.
Hope this "short course" has been of some help to anyone interested.
Jim Cox
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:07:13 -0400
From: SacChief@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bill Thompson ("OldTimer" "Mr. Wimple",etc.)
As noted before, after a brief and unimpressive career in radio (in N. CA), I
went into the criminal justice field. One of my assignments was as the CA
Director for an outfit called the Natnl Council on Crime and Delinquency.
Bill Thompson was one of our Board members , where he volunteered many hours;
he was also very active on behalf of Boys' Clubs and Girls' Clubs--all while
fully employed as the PR Director for Union Oil of California, with hqs in
Los Angeles. My recollection is that Bill died in the 1970's, but, of course,
he lives on with the re-broadcast of every Fibber McGee and Molly episode. a
great guy! bob keldgord
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:07:10 -0400
From: PFornatar@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Benny, Allen and McGee
I would say that Jack Benny, Phil Harris and Fibber McGee and Molly among a
few others hold up best today. It is our job as collectors to spread the
"word" and keep them alive inside of hiding them in a closet.
They are all character oriented. Not many jokes but they all became
friends of the listeners. I never felt that way about Fred Allen. I liked
his wit but it was something separate from his character on his show.
Paul Fornatar
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:24:44 -0400
From: ARago17320@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Get em up who?
Hi to everyone. Haven't sent a post in quit a long time. Between having AOL
6 and having to go to another site to email to this list and being way behind
in reading the digests, all the threads have run out by the time I get to
them. Anyway we have so many more interesting people to read on this list
all the time and my 2 cents wouldn't make much of difference.
Getting to it at last. Last night I listened to a 3/2/38 broadcast of the
Lone Ranger. I was 12 days old at the time of the original airing. Since I
did not get into the LR until around 1943 or so I was a bit surprised to find
that Tonto's horse was called White Feller.
This was a show about the Apache Kid. It develops that the LR has a plan
that involves sending Tonto to the camp of The Kid. The Kid holds Tonto's
horse in camp while Tonto rides back to town on a mule.
Tonto and the LR, who is pretending to be a deputy sheriff shot by The Kid
and is now offering a reward for The Kid's capture. Tonto tells the LR that
his horse is in the camp and the LR says "He's got White Feller?" Off they
ride to a cabin to spring the trap and Tonto who is supposed to be on the
mule says "come on White Feller".
This was my first exposure to Earle Graser as the LR. John Todd sounded like
the tape was running slowly on his dialog. It was not a tape defect because
all the other characters sounded normal. It was an interesting episode to say
the least.
My questions are when did Scout become Tonto's horse and was White Feller the
first horse Tonto [removed]
After this long post, I guess I better go back to the sidelines.
Love this group.
Take care all,
Al
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:47:32 -0400
From: Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Some questions
I've got a few questions regarding OTR to which I'd like to get answers.
Whatever help you can give will be appreciated.
1. Who is Olan Soule' and on which programs did he appear? (I only
know of "The First Nighter Program")
[removed] keep hearing regular reports (both for and against) Radio Spirits,
Inc. and Carl Amari. Are there other resources where I can purchase
OTR tapes other than RSI? (If so, send this to my e-mail address:
kclarke5@[removed])
[removed] you have any further appearances of Barbara Stanwyck on radio?
I know she did several movies during this period of time.
Kenneth Clarke
kclarke5@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:01:46 -0400
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Straight =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arrow=99?=
"William Harper" <whhsa@[removed]; commented:
I think the point NABISCO was making was not that it owned
the rights to straight arrow - the combined term is listed in >
dictionaries ... in the late 50's and early 60's Straight
Arrow comic stories were being published, but not as Straight > Arrow of
radio fame or NABISCO's Straight Arrow.
I've got a couple of the old SA comics, and they do, in fact, feature
the very same "Indian" with the very same steed, secret identity, etc.
No doubt it was under license, and I've no reason to doubt Nabisco's
claims to the copyright. And, of course, as I said in my original post,
the term "Straight Arrow" can be used for any non-competing product and,
as the PTO link shows, has been. In fact, the trademarked CD "Straight
Arrow, an American Indian Boy," would surely be considered a competing
product, suggesting Nabisco has abandoned the trademark.
The point was that Nabisco had intimidated the publisher of the
newsletter (Mrs. Culver, if I remember correctly) into altering the
title _Straight Arrow Pow-Wow_ to simply _Pow-Wow_; I was suggesting
that the term might be available, even for a publication devoted to the
appreciation of the copyrighted character. That appeared to be the case.
The publication could probably even use copyrighted images and fragments
of scripts, etc., as long as the usage was for scholarly purposes and no
excerpt was lengthy enough to, say, give away too much of a story and
thus discourage consumers from buying a recording of the radio show from
Radio Spirits. I suspect the licensing of these recordings to RS is the
only use Nabisco is currently making of their SA copyright. Such usage
for educational or review purposes is protected as "fair usage."
Come to think of it (this is a stream-of-consciousness posting) those
Radio Spirit recordings might be enough to keep the trademark protection
alive. Anyhow, since I was rash enough to bring the matter up in the
digest instead of in a private e-mail, and since you-know-who probably
keeps up with this digest, I fear Nabisco's oversight is being attended
to even as we type. Oy! (Is there an emoticon to indicate the act of
slapping oneself on the forehead?) Still worth a try, though, and this
is where the real lawyer comes in (I am but a lowly graphic artist,
myself, which necessitates some familiarity with Copyright laws). Some
of the online lawyers offer to register a trademark for under $100, but
double-check their credentials. If nothing else, it might give you a
little leverage in getting Nabisco to relent. One would think they would
be happy to get some free promotion for whatever scant use they're now
getting from the character. And if they insist on being big bullies,
maybe you could somehow pick up the abandoned "Straight Arrow, an
American Indian Boy" trademark rights; the name of the lawyer who filed
it is listed beside the reference on the Patents and Trademarks webpage
search engine.
[Trademarks are a funny thing. Years ago DC comics sued Fawcett because
they thought Captain Marvel was too much like Superman. As part of the
settlement, they got the rights to Captain Marvel (drawn and maybe
written by the great CC Beck [and the character from whom Elvis Presley
derived his trademark ringlet of hair]). For years they were content to
suppress the character; then, one day, someone there decided there was
now room for one more superhero and that it would be neat to revive The
Big Red Cheese. However, in the intervening years rival Marvel Comics
had introduced their own totally unrelated superhero who happened to
bear the name Captain Marvel. So, even though DC had rights to the
original character, and even though he was still called Captain Marvel
(for that matter, so was the original Mary Marvel, thanks to the even
greater power of Political Correctness) in the stories, DC could not use
that name as the title of the comic book. It, instead, was titled
_Shazam!_, which was the magic word that transformed boy newscaster
Billy Batson into the Mighty Captain (who, himself, was styled after
Fred MacMurry; might as well throw all my trivia in here). Now, anybody
remember what the crippled newsboy said to become Captain Marvel, [removed]
Or, for that matter, what his name was? Freddy something, I think. I
guess I've drifted off-topic, but I would have sworn I'd seen somewhere
a radio tape that featured an appearance by Captain Marvel; however,
Dunning makes no mention of a CM show. Did he, perhaps, make a guest
appearance on some other kid's show?]
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:01:44 -0400
From: Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Miss Kitty and my two cents worth
I'm just going to put my two cents worth in on the issue of
whether Miss Kitty Russel was a prostitute or not. Truth be
told, that was my first impression when I was young. The
more I thought about it, the more I came to the conclusion
that she must've been just a hostess/owner of the Long Branch
saloon. My reasoning is this:
[removed] was talking to the customers asking if they wanted drinks
or welcoming customers as they entered the saloon.
[removed] you heard her refer to the other female employees as 'her
girls' (most of whom were waitresses waiting on customers) it
would be the equivalent of a modern day supervisor referring to those
on his/her team as his/her 'people'.
[removed] of the old west were not accepted by the citizens of the
town as equals. They were often shunned by the other women in
town and were the topic of idle gossips. This was true even if they
were not actually prostitutes. Miss Kitty (at least on the TV series)
was
respected as a businesswoman and accepted everywhere she went,
by everyone in town without question. I recall her speaking with women
who looked like they ran the local sewing circle as well as the men she
entertained at the saloon.
I have no doubt that prostitution took place during this time. It may
have
taken place at saloons like the Long Branch. Are we so narrow minded
to not accept her character as anything but a prostitute? Opportunities
for women during this time were quite limited. They either worked in a
shop/general store as a clerk, waitresses in a restaurant, stayed home
and took care of the family, or worked in a saloon serving drinks.
The women who worked in saloons were often accepted as being of 'easy
virtue', but such was not always the case. The public opinion of saloon
girls was not among the highest. The other women in their town were
not eager to accept them.
Hopefully, this will be accepted as another possibility.
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:01:42 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Rosemary DeCamp autobiography
For anyone interested, Rosemary DeCamp has an autobiography recently
published, and having seen the book myself at a Pittsburgh convention this
weekend, can vouch that she discusses a good bit of her radio work and TV
work, besides her film career on stage and screen. Probably available on
[removed]
If anyone is within driving distance of Baltimore, Maryland, may I point you
to [removed] ? The same publishers of the Rosemary DeCamp book are
holding their 15th horror/sci-fi convention called Fanex 15. Sadly, it's a
small convention (shrinking every year) and they don't deal with Old-Time
Radio barely at all, but for horror fans, it's worth a trip if you're within
driving distance. They are also the same publishers of the recent Groucho
Marx/You Bet Your Life book, but as I mentioned, they don't really tune into
old-time radio. There will be about three dozen dealers (at most) and one
or two will carry/offer old-time radio and a few carry old-time TV. I've
visited the convention in the past few years (sometimes only for a few
hours, other times for the whole weekend), and can vouch it's lots of fun.
Just for anyone curious.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:45:32 -0400
From: Alan Bell <bella@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: To Harry Bartell
Mr Bartell, would you mind identifying your voice for me? I have
heard you hundreds of times on Gunsmoke and other shows, but so often
in old radio programs, the actor is not identified with a character.
Of the Gunsmoke troup, the only voice (aside from the leads) that I
know for sure is John Dehner, and that's probably because I was
familiar with him on television in the '50s and '60s before I ever
started listening to vintage radio.
Now this may be hard for you because you played so many characters.
But, could you pick out a Gunsmoke episode and tell me which part you
played so I can zero in on your voice once and for all? How about The
New Hotel? Most people who know Gunsmoke are familiar with that
because of the widely circulated rehearsal tape. If not that one,
pick another.
I (and perhaps others) would appreciate it. Thanks.
--
Alan Bell
Grandville, MI
bella@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:26:34 -0400
From: "Tim Lones" <tallones@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Benny vs. [removed](Fibber Mc Gee)
I have been enjoying the Benny vs. Allen thread the last few days. All
of the comments have been pretty much on [removed] would like to make a
[removed] McGee and Molly did make it to Television in the 1959-60
season on NBC with Bob Sweeny as Fibber and Cathy Lewis as Molly, only
lasted till spring [removed] happened to see Jim Jordan in a guest appearance
on Chico and the Man (probably 1976-77 season) it was great to see him and
hear his unmistakable [removed] me to [removed] Fibber and Molly (The
Jordans) make any other TV appearances together or seperately? Just
wondering.(Hope I'm not off topic)
Regards,
Tim Lones
East Sparta, Ohio
(Formerly of Canton)
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 04:52:01 -0400
From: lois@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
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Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
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over four years, same time, same channel!
Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
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and widow of actor Howard Culver
(For more info, contact lois@[removed])
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:50:56 -0400
From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Benny/Allen
A. Joseph Ross hit a homer with his point that
Fred Allen's humor was more topical than Benny's.
Same explanation for the continued popularity of
Amos & Andy and lack of interest in Bob Hope's
radio shows. The humor of Amos & Andy is
timeless, being about the foibles of that program's
characters. Only someone who lived during the
years Hope was on radio might find some of his
topical humor still funny. Amos & Andy is just as
comical today as it was when it was first broadcast.
Harry Machin, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:02:59 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dunning Book Review
Former Delaware Governor Pete DuPont favorably plugs John Dunning's novel
"Two O'Clock Eastern War Time," which is set in a radio station, in today's
[removed] (the free web site of the Wall Street Journal editorial
page).
A link is below:
[removed]
Sean Dougherty
Kubelski@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:03:01 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re:Jolson Remembered
The recent posting about Al Jolson bring back a flood of memories.
I had the honor of meeting this legendary Performer back when he was doing
his Radio Show for NBC. If my memory serves me correctly, it was during his
stint for Kraft Music in the late 40's.
It was after his career resurgence, brought about by the release of the
"Jolson Story" film. Prior to that, I wasn't all that familiar with his
earlier career, but because of the movie, became enamoured of his vocal
style, and actually bought many of his records that had been re-released.
Coincidentally. Bob Hastings, who was playing "Archie Andrews" was quite a
singer in his own right, and would amuse me with a great impression of
Jolson. In fact, Carl Jampel, The writer of the "Archie" show did a script
that featured Bob doing "Jolson" as a story line for one of the episodes.
"Archie", starts by telling Jughead about just having seen the Jolson Story,
then starts singing "Mammy", but "Jughead" chimes in (totally off key) and
screws things up. The program ends with "Archie" (doing a benefit) singing
"Danny Boy", ala Jolson.
The point of the preceding story is that Al Jolson was on everyone's mind at
the time, and had a well deserved Comeback.
Having become such a fan of his, I would take advantage of my NBC
"Celebrity" status and sneak into the rehearsals for his show. They would
use a small studio on the 3rd floor to do a script dialogue rehearsal, and
then "Jolie" would run through a song or two with Oscar Levant at the piano.
It was not a large studio, so I was not all that inconspicious standing just
inside the studio door, enthralled by watching the great man at work. One
day, I realized he spotted me, called someone over (I presume to ask who the
hell I was), nodded, and went back to rehearsing. Later, during a break, he
came past me to go out the studio door for something or other, stopped and
shook my hand, and said something like "How're ya doing Kid! Coming to the
show tonight" I gulped and said something clever like , "Yes, Mr. Jolson".
to which he replied "Good! See ya later Kid".
I can attest to the fact that not only was he a truly great performer, but a
first class Character. Because of his age, he was almost bald by then. (Not
that he ever had a big shock of hair to begin with) and always wore a "Cap"
to mask that fact. And always sported an Ascot around his neck. (That is,
When he wasn't wearing a turtleneck).
Because of his immense popularity, they did his show out of Studio 8H (NBC's
Largest studio), to accommodate the heavy ticket demand. That night, during
the studio warm up, I'll never forget Jolsons flamboyant entrance after the
introduction. He'd practically dance onto center stage. And if he saw anyone
in the audience that he recognized, (Like old cronies) he'd either give them
the irreverent "finger", with a big grin, or give them the "Italian"
gesture, slapping the crook of his left arm, while "Making a muscle". (Have
I accurately described what polite company considered an even more "obscene"
gesture). All the while laughing like hell, and prancing back and forth on
the stage. A veritable dynamo.
But that was Jolson. A simple wave was not enough. Nothing he did was
low-key. His stage persona was larger than life. That's what made him a
legend, two times over. Not to mention a vocal style that was incredibly
unique and captivating.
The Sun Shines East, The Sun Shines West, but will never "set" on Jolson.
Hal(Harlan)Stone
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:25:30 -0400
From: "Christian Blees" <christian-blees@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Time for Love
Hi,
I am looking for still living relatives/estates of the following radio
writers who wrote several scripts for the radio series "Time for love":
Ian Martin, Jerry Adelman and Murray Burnett.
BTW: Does anybody know if there are any episodes of this show in
circulation?
Any help will gladly be appreciated!
Thanks,
Chris
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:51:49 -0400
From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dwight Weist
I need to find Dwight Weist's literary heir (or any of his survivors).
Can anybody supply a lead? ie. does anybody have his obituary?
Thanks,
Howard
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:40:19 -0400
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: THANK YOU ONE AND ALL
My wife and I wish to thank all our friends on the digest who sent email
get-well messages during her recent stay in the hospital. Thank you one and
all
Ferne & Owens Pomeroy
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