Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #114
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 4/10/2005 10:18 PM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 114
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      "I vum"                               [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      4-11 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      radio drama, grumble.                 [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      Copyright in pre 1972 recordings      [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      The Destroyer                         [ Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@earthlin ]
      shows that debuted in 1945            [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
      It's a Joke, Son movie / Kenny Delma  [ danhughes@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:55:39 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "I vum"

    On 4/9/05 9:12 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     I've lived in New England my entire life and have never
>     heard this.  My guess is that if New Englanders use or used
>     it, they reside 'futha noth of here' (here, being about an hour

    >from Boston).

    Well, I'm no'th o' you by about three hours, and I've never heard this
    either. And I was born and raised in a neighborhood where people talked
    in a genuine old-school Northern New England dialect, a dialect which I
    labored mightily during my teen years to shed. But I can easily return to
    it if required to do so.

    When my grandfather (born 1904) was surprised or shocked or peturbed he
    had many different ways of expressing this -- most of them colorful oaths
    and blasphemies of one sort or another. But he never once in his long
    life ever used any variation of the expression "I vum."

    Elizabeth
    (and he never said "I swan to pucker" either.)

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    Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:56:34 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-11 births/deaths

    April 11th births

    04-11-1893 - Lou Holtz - San Francisco, CA - d. 9-22-1980
    comedian: "Fleischmann Hour"; "Kraft Music Hall"
    04-11-1902 - Quentin Reynolds - NYC - d. 3-17-1965
    author: "Britain Speaks"; "Quentin Reynolds"; "Keep 'Em Rolling"
    04-11-1904 - Paul McGrath - Chicago, IL - d. 4-13-1978
    actor, host: Host "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"; Robert Allison "My Son
    Jeep"
    04-11-1907 - Paul Douglas - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-11-1959
    announcer, sportscaster, actor: Lawyer Feldman "Meyer the Buyer"
    04-11-1909 - Sylvia Picker - NYC - d. 9-25-1981
    actress: Suzy "Box 13"
    04-11-1912 - John Larkin - Oakland, CA - d. 1-29-1965
    actor: Perry Mason "Perry Mason"; "Dimension X; " Ford Theatre"
    04-11-1921 - Toni Darnay - Chicago, IL - d. 1-5-1983
    actress: Evelyn Winters "Strange Romance of Evelyn Winters"; Nona
    Dutell "Nona from Nowhere"

    April 11th deaths

    01-31-1905 - John O'Hara - Pottsville, PA - d. 4-11-1970
    author: "Information Please"; "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"
    04-02-1878 - Leo Curley - NYC - d. 4-11-1960
    actor: Ed Jackson "Backstage Wife"; Mike Shaw "Tom Mix"
    05-11-1907 - Kent Taylor - Nashua, IA - d. 4-11-1987
    actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
    06-15-1894 - Leo Cleary - MA - d. 4-11-1955
    actor: Bailiff "His Honor, the Barber"
    06-26-1907 - Ynez Seabury - OR - d. 4-11-1973
    actress: Libby Collins "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-03-1905 - Dolores Del Rio - Durango, Mexico - d. 4-11-1983
    actress: "Hollywood on the Air"
    09-29-1903 - Ted de Corsia - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-11-1973
    actor: Flip Corkin "Terry and the Pirates"; Dan McGarry "McGarry and
    His Mouse"
    10-23-1904 - Oliver Barbour - d. 4-11-1968
    producer, director: "Life Can Be Beautiful"; "Parker Family"; "When a
    Girl Marries"
    11-27-1904 - Florence Lake - Charleston, SC - d. 4-11-1980
    actress: (Sister of Arthur Lake) Tess Terwilliger "David Harum"
    12-17-1903 - Erskine Caldwell - Morland, GA - d. 4-11-1987
    playwright: "Information Please"; "Short Story"
    xx-xx-1895 - Paul Specht - d. 4-11-1954
    bandleader: Made very first broadcast of dance Music 9-20-1920 WWJ
    Detroit
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:12:43 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  radio drama, grumble.

    Well, why _isn't_ there any radio drama for the 2000's????

    We know it can be done: we have the talent and can computer-mix any sounds
    we need for sound effects.  We have plenty of subjects, and on radio they
    could be more daring than on TV: on satellite radio, for example, a crime
    drama that's more realistic than anything on television would be possible;
    neither the language nor the topical material would have to be considered.
    I cannot believe that in the vast oversupply of aspiring actors out there
    isn't a talented group that could be attracted to some sort of radio
    enterprise.

    I know from experience that broadcasting eats talent and effort.  And I know
    that this idea is floated through this group, probably to Mr Summers'
    unhappiness because it's supposed to be *O*TR.  What I'd like to know is if
    anyone knows any of the history of New Time Radio efforts and perhaps to
    speculate on whether new technological innovations--say, the aforementioned
    computer-aided sound-effects and satellite radio--might make the proposition
    more practical.

    My own sense is that the difficulties lie in marketing the idea.  When young
    people--and that's who must be grabbed--hear about radio, they think in
    terms of limited music playlists and droning talk shows.  If they've ever
    heard of radio drama, it's from some nostalgia broadcast of The Shadow.  The
    OTR traditions should, of course, be honored and learned from, but they
    aren't of much interest to a 13-year-old, or 30-year-olds.

    "Prairie Home Companion" cannot be the only radio show that will work.

    M Kinsler

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    Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:15:13 -0400
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Copyright in  pre 1972 recordings

    Paul Gaugh posted

>     The conclusion in the 36 page opinion is that common
>     law in the state protects ownership in pre-1972
>     recordings "that are not covered by the federal
>     copyright act."

    This is odd since Capitol Records did not even exist until the 1940's!
    I'm not familiar with the case, but I suppose it's possible that it involves
    material that Capitol bought from another record label.

    George Aust

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    Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:16:44 -0400
    From: Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Destroyer

    on 4/9/05 8:12 PM, Stephen Jansen wrote:

>     Sad to hear of Ivan Snell's passing.  We talked quite a bit at the last three
>     conventions - he had a ton of knowledge about all of the stupid stuff I
>     [removed] me on to the great "Destroyer" series of pulp-style novels
>     (some of my favorite reads of all-time!).

    ***My good friend Will Murray ghost-wrote around 40 of the DESTROYER novels,
    including #87: "Mob Psychology," in which a Mafioso villain is named Antony
    Tollini.  Hmmn, I wonder how Will came up with that name? --Anthony
    Tollin***

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    Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:59:47 -0400
    From: wilditralian@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  shows that debuted in 1945

    All,

    Trina Preston writes that she'd be interested in knowing of radio shows
    that debuted in 1945.  Off hand, none immediately come to mind, but 1945
    was when Harry Bartell debuted on "The New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes"
    ( a show that had been running since 1939).   The date was 9-10-45 and
    the episode was "Colonel Warburton's Madness".  Although I have it on a
    recording, I didn't hear the original broadcast ... onna counta I wasn't
    going to be born for two days yet, and the acoustics were terrible in
    there.

    Regards,

    Jim Arva
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    James H. Arva
    HOME: 201 Short St.; Harrisburg, PA 17109; (717) 545-5709
    E-MAIL:  wilditralian@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:23:31 -0400
    From: danhughes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  It's a Joke, Son movie / Kenny Delmar

    I was in a Target store last night and found a DVD of IT'S A JOKE, SON
    (Senator Claghorn movie starring Kenny Delmar and Una Merkel) in the
    Dollar Store section.

    When I got home, it hit me that maybe some of folks coming to Cincinnati
    would like a copy of this movie.  If so, email me at dan@[removed]
    and I'll go back and see how many more I can find.  I'll bring them to
    Cincy with me.  Your cost will be $[removed] including sales tax!

    ---Dan, [removed] (Cincy info on my web site)

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