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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 46


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Amos 'n' Andy
	 Cedric on Lum and Abbner
	 Re: Charlie & His Orchestra, [removed] Digest V96 #44
	 Re:  [removed] Digest V96 #45
	 The Big Story
	 Jimmie Allen
	 Dementia Y
	 Cedric Weehunt & Foghorn Leghorn
	 RE: What's the "Silvercup Award"?
	 More Allen's Alley
	 RE: sources for inexpensive tapes
	 RE: RADIO SHACK RADIO-RECORDER
	 Re: Senator Claghorn and Kenny Delmar
	 LIGHTS OUT: Adam Begot, Neanderthal, Across The Gap, et al
	 LIGHTS OUT and Gangster Nails Malone
	 NEW Conway & Bruce programs soon available!
	 Battle Of The Sexes
	 Letter From America
	 dual dubbing decks

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:05:58 -0500
From: Ted McKay <tmckay@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Amos 'n' Andy
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I'd like to quote Gen. Colin Powell (My American Journey, page 19)


"I have been asked when I first felt a sense of racial identity, when I
first understood that I belonged to a minority.  In those early years, I
had no such sense, because on Banana Kelly there was no majority.
Everybody was either a Jew, an Italian, a Pole, a Greek, a Puerto Rican,
or, as we said in those days, a Negro.  Among my boyhood friends were
Victor Ramirez, Walter Schwartz, Manny Garcia, Melvin Klein.  The Kleins
were the first family in our building to have a television set.  Every
Tuesday night, we crowded into Mel's living room to watch Milton Berle.
On Thursdays we watched Amos 'n' Andy.  We thought the show was
marvelous, the best thing on television.  It was another age, and we did
not know that we were not supposed to like Amos 'n' Andy."

Ted McKay
Cincinnati, Ohio

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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 15:02:30 +0500
From: cbholm@[removed] (c holm)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cedric on Lum and Abbner
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

 DavidLHs> 
  I don't know what Cedric's age is supposed to be, but I estimate it to be
in the 20's.  After all, even though he has a job and a car, he still is in
the 3rd reader (?) at [removed]  I don't know the correct age, this is just
the impression I get from listening to the show.
   

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:31 GMT
From: midshires@[removed] (Andrew Emmerson)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: midshires@[removed]
Subject: Re: Charlie & His Orchestra, [removed] Digest V96 #44
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In-Reply-To: <[removed]@[removed]>
John S. Vamossy asks about Charlie and His Orchestra. But how do you 
compress a huge topic into a succinct reply? I'll [removed]

Although jazz and swing music (Negermusik, "nigger music") was banned by 
the Nazis as unfit for domestic consumption, it was realised that Germany 
needed hot music for its foreign language broadcasts in the war of 
international propaganda. Accordingly the authorities appointed Karl 
Schwedler, a Berlin bandleader to recruit the best swing musicians he 
could find and record hit songs of the day, in English but with new 
words. These new words were anti-Allies, anti-Bolshevist, [removed] 
but the songs were extremely funny (sorry folks!) and the arrangements 
were first-class. These records were then used in the various "Germany 
Calling" broadcasts.

In using musical propaganda, the Germans were no different from the 
Americans (with their Glenn Miller programmes in German) and the British 
with their various "black" radio stations purporting to be German forces 
entertainment stations.

Until a few years ago, all this subject was swathed in secrecy, now it's 
all out in the open. Commercial CDs issued in Britain can be had of 
Charlie & His Orchestra, also a semi-underground cassette from Germany. I 
have at least two BBC radio documentaries on the subject, which are very 
revealing. Radio Yesteryear also have some of these songs on their 
HITLER'S INFERNO album.

In addition, a full-length hardback book (290 pages) has been published 
on the Germans' use of music for propaganda purposes - DIFFERENT 
DRUMMERS: JAZZ IN THE CULTURE OF NAZI GERMANY by Michael Kater, Oxford 
University Press, 1992, $[removed] ISBN 0-19-505009 - 6. There are several 
books on radio propaganda:

BERLIN CALLING, by John Carver Edwards. Published 1991 by Praeger, New
York, Westport and London. Subtitled 'American Broadcasters in Service to
the Third Reich', this book looks at the personalities of the individuals 
who took to the microphone for Germany. Some coverage of the short-wave
stations used.

HISTORY OF INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTING, by James Wood.
Published 1992 by Peter Peregrinus Ltd, London at £[removed] A substantial 
part of this book covers propaganda broadcasting during and before the 
last war.

LORD HAW-HAW AND HIS BRITISH AUDIENCE DURING THE PHONEY
WAR, by Terry Charman. Published in Imperial War Museum Review, no. 7.
A detailed and fascinating article.

RADIO GOES TO WAR, by Charles Rolo. Published 1953 by Faber & Faber
Ltd, London. Nearly 250 pages devoted to propaganda broadcasting during
the last war.

RADIO WARFARE, by Lawrence C. Soley. Published 1989 by Praeger, New
York, Westport and London. A full-length study of USA subversive
propaganda, with some coverage of other countries' efforts. 

I hope this is helpful; I am happy to make copies of the programmes 
mentioned if people pay costs. I'd be even more happy to trade period 
German broadcasts; I have a lot of WW2 material but there must be more 
around. --Andy.

[E&OE. A few facts may be wrong but most are accurate!]

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 06:36:13 -0500
From: Francis Fisher <fisherf@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:  [removed] Digest V96 #45
Message-Id: <m0tigHJ-000YTWC@[removed]>


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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:51:27 -0500
From: VernSchroe@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The Big Story
Message-ID: <960203075127_213081716@[removed]>

Many years ago while serving with the US Army and stationed at Camp Otsu in
Japan I listened to an AFRS broadcast on the Far East Network Tokyo of an
episode of the "Big Story" which I would like to obtain.  The story went as
follows:

In a small midwestern town 40 miles west of Chicago, a family of three
returned home one evening and found their home in the process of being
robbed. The intruder murdered all three members of the family.

I immediately recognized this as a story that had happened in my home town of
Batavia, IL in I believe 1925. As a kid I remember seeing the gravestone with
three names on it who all died on the same date. I questioned my mother and
she related the story to me. The crime was supposedly solved by some
newspaper reporter.

The date I heard the program was late 1952 on the FEN Tokyo. I would
appreciate hearing from anyone who has a log or collection or can point me
towards any source of Big Story programs.

Vern Schroeder, Batavia, IL

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:08:39 -0500
From: VernSchroe@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jimmie Allen
Message-ID: <960203080837_213085703@[removed]>

I am interested in obtaining copies of the "Air Adventures of Jimmie Allen"
program of the 1930's and later remakes in the middle 1940's. Also any books
or other sources of information on the series. Can anyone point me toward
sources of this info?

Thanks, Vern Schroeder

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:10:00 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwaves <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Dementia Y
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

	As far as I know, this is a one-shot parody of Dimension X from
the AFRS, possibly those same guys in the Far East who did that horror show.
I'm sure one of our SF in the 50's will know for sure.

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:49:40 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cedric Weehunt & Foghorn Leghorn
Message-ID: <960203084940_311236625@[removed]>

A couple of answers for David Hassell.  
   ONE: on the inquiry about the age of Cedric Weehunt on "Lum & Abner," I
don't remember an actual age being given.  However, he was an adult and was
what was referred to in those days as "backward."  Today, I guess the term
would be "somewhat retarded."  That explains why a grown man would be
interested in a child's book.  Cedric was played by Chet Lauck (Lum).  For
more definitive information about this series you can contact:
                             Tim Hollis
                             #81 Sharon Blvd.
                             Dora, AL 35062
   He's executive secretary of the National Lum and Abner Society.  They
publish "The Jot 'Em Down Journal bi-monthly and a membership, including
subscription to the journal, is $10 per year.  They hold an annual NLAS
convention and this year it will be June 22 at the Best Western Lime Tree Inn
in Mena, Arkansas (L & A's county seat for Pine Ridge.)
   TWO:  As to which came first, Senator Beauregard Claghorn or the cartoon
rooster Foghorn Leghorn, no contest.  Kenny Delmar was doing the bombastic
senator on the Fred Allen show in early 1946, long before the rooster came
along.  Delmar always said the character was based on a rancher in Texas who
gave him a ride in a Model-T Ford back in the early days of the Great
Depression.  Even the "That's a joke, son," line was part of the rancher's
persona.

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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 10:52:30 -0600
From: lgenco@[removed] (Louis Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Cc: acg@[removed]
Subject: RE: What's the "Silvercup Award"?
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

In a recent OTR Digest, "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]> asked about "The
Silvercup Award" as purportedly given a 1939 recording of -The Lone Ranger-:

>Anyway, what is, or was, the "Silvercup Award"? I assume that it's
>some sort of industry award -- something like the Oscars or Emmys, 
>perhaps? Presumably the radio industry _did_ have some kind of award
>system to recognize talent in that area, but I have never heard any
>discussion about it.

-Silvercup bread- was one of -The Lone Ranger's- sponsors.  I leave the
conclusion to the gentle reader  ;-)

Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:20:01 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: More Allen's Alley
Message-ID: <960203091957_311249086@[removed]>

Yes, there was a Senator Bloat at one time on the Fred Allen Show but I think
the part was played by Jack Smart instead of Alan Reed (Teddy Bergman).  Reed
portrayed Flastaff Openshaw.
Smart, of course, should not be confused with J. Scott Smart (Brad Runyon,
"The Fat Man").  Jack was also used often as the voice of the infamous Huey
Long on "The March of Time."
  Just for the record, besides the later "regulars" in the "Alley" Senator
Claghorn (Kenny Delmar), Titus Moody (Parker Fennelly) and Mrs. Pansy
Nussbaum (Minerva Pious),  there were (most very briefly) Charlie Cantor as
Socrates Mulligan, John Brown as John Doe, Peter Donald as Ajax Cassidy,
Shirley Booth as Dottie Mahoney and Irwin Delmore as Mr. Pinkbaum. 

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:11:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: sources for inexpensive tapes
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hi [removed]

   It seems the question comes up every few weeks, so I'll answer it again
(maybe we should add this the the FAQ list?).

   The best source available currently for quality tapes is SAM'S CLUB,
located nationwide.  They sell TDK-D 60's in a package of 16 for about
$[removed] and for the TDK-D 90's, a package of 16 sells for about 30 cents
more. They come complete with lables and hard plastic cases.  I have found
that "Kingdom" and other bulk wholesellers charge a lot more, plus you
must pay for shipping and purchase 12 million tapes. At about 59 cents
each for a TDK-D 60, you can't beat SAM'S CLUB.  What, you say there is no
SAM'S CLUB near you?  What about Walmart? (they're everywhere!) Don't buy the
TDK-D's there ,they cost too much, but the do sell a pretty good "Walmart"
brand tape (no really, it's not too bad!) in a package of 6 (for the 60
minute tapes) for $[removed], which includes the lables and hard plastic cases. 

   Hope this helps.

--------------------------------------------------
|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
--------------------------------------------------

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:04:11 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: RADIO SHACK RADIO-RECORDER
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,

Don't have the origional post here but, from memory, the DX-392 (?) on
page 8 of the sale flier was on sale for $[removed] until March 2.

Frank

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:41:30 -0500
From: SeptSev@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Senator Claghorn and Kenny Delmar
Message-ID: <960203134129_134911015@[removed]>

[removed]
Just as a point of interest: Kenny Delmar(Senator Claghorn) also played the
government official, I believe identified as "the Secretary of the
Interior",(with that wonderful pseudo FDR voice) in the Mercury broadcast of
WAR OF THE WORLDS. According to John Houseman, nobody knew Delmar was going
to use that voice, which added great verisimilitude to this historic show.
Thom Bray
septsev@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:50:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon H Chandler <dchandle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: LIGHTS OUT: Adam Begot, Neanderthal, Across The Gap, et al
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

This may have already been answered fully (tho I don't think so), but I
was having server trouble for a few days recently, and don't know if this
made it to the list or not, so here it is again:

RE:  THE ARCH OBOLER STORY THAT HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT TITLES

This script was first broadcast on _Lights Out_ on March 31, 1937, under
the title "Homus Primus."  When it was done again on _Arch Oboler's Plays_
on September 9, 1939, it was retitled "And Adam Begot."  Oboler used a
recording of this second broadcast for inclusion in his 1971 syndicated
series _The devil and Mr. O_.  On the syndicated series it was called
"Neanderthal."

"Across The Gap" appears to be a completely different Oboler story.  It
was originally broadcast on _Lights Out_ on August 12, 1936, and then done
a second time on the CBS _Lights Out_ revival series on November 3, 1942. 
A press release described it as follows:  "Speculation as to what would
happen to a person if her were to travel at the speed of light over
wires--186,000 a second--is the sum and substance of Arch Oboler's
playlet."  Elsewhere, it was referred to as "an experiment in atomic
disintegration."  

This information comes courtesy of my friend Mike Ogden, who can currently
access the Digest to read, but cannot post via e-mail (yet!).  More from
Mike soon.

-dc



 -- 
"After all, what the hell?"     --Dan Turner        dchandle@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:53:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon H Chandler <dchandle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: LIGHTS OUT and Gangster Nails Malone
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I'm posting this information from Mike Ogden, since he can't (yet) send
e-mail to the list:

RE:  THE LIGHTS OUT STORY ABOUT GANGSTER NAILS MALONE

Mike says:  I'm not exactly sure about the title of this story, but it is
a Willis Cooper script and was originally broadcast on _Lights Out_ on May
13, 1936, just two weeks before Cooper resigned from NBC.  If it was
re-done circa the mid-Forties, then my best guess is that it was an
episode of the 1946 _Lights Out_ revival series entitled "The Dillinger
Complex," which was aired on August 17.

-dc

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"After all, what the hell?"     --Dan Turner        dchandle@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:12:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon H Chandler <dchandle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: NEW Conway & Bruce programs soon available!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Sherlock Holmes and OTR fans:

I send now the good news that the re-release of the _New Adventures of
Sherlock Holmes_ broadcasts series has apparently not ended!

EIGHT volumes (16 programs) will be released by Brilliance Audio, for only
$[removed] apiece.  These programs are from the 1946-47 season, and feature Tom
Conway and Nigel Bruce.  Titles and dates of the first four cassettes are
as follows:

VOLUME ONE
The Clue of the Hungry Cat, 10/26/46
The Singular Affair of the Dying Schoolboys, 11/9/46

VOLUME TWO
The AOT Sally Martin, 11/23/46
The Strange Death of Mrs. Abernetty, 11/30/46

VOLUME THREE
The AOT Grand Old Man, 12/21/46
The singular Affair of the White Cockerel, 12/28/46

VOLUME FOUR
The Strange COT Persecuted Millionaire, 2/10/47
The Adventure of Maltree Abbey, 3/31/47

VOLUMES FIVE through EIGHT I don't have episode titles or dates for.

This is _great_ news for Holmes fans, I think!  I know I'm looking forward
to these new programs.

OTHER HOLMES PROGRAMS:  I have a long list of obscure Holmes
programs broadcast by the BBC I'm trying to track down.  Most of this
material is pre-Gielgud and Richardson, so if anybody has any early BBC
material to trade, please get in touch with me at:  dchandle@[removed]

Best,

-dc

PS:  Just to give credit where credit is due, it was Mike Ogden who made
me aware of the pending release of the new Holmes programs.  (Hi, Mike.)

-- 
"After all, what the hell?"     --Dan Turner        dchandle@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:10:59 -0500
From: BanjoBud@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Battle Of The Sexes
Message-ID: <960202231057_212923654@[removed]>

Does anyone remember, or have a copy, of a radio show that aired in the early
forties called "The Battle Of The Sexes" which starred Julia Sanderson and
ger husband Frank Crumit?  As I recall it was a quiz program where Julia
questioned the guys and Frank asked the questions of the ladies.  Crumit
passed away in 1943, but Julia lived well into her nineties.  Frank Crumit
made many recordings in the "jazz age," perhaps the most famous being "Abdul
Abulbul Amir."

Bud Black

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:25:38 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Letter From America
Message-ID: <960203132537_213224852@[removed]>

Hi Gang -                      February 3 - 1996 -- Saturday - Noon cst 

A few issues back somebody asked how old a program has to be in order 
qualify for "old time radio" status.   Somebody else asked if there is
any "old time radio" on Short Wave.   This morning as I was recording 
Alistair Cooke's "Letter From America", I began to wonder how long that
program has been on the air.  I know I've been listening for at least 
20 years and recording it for 10 years.  It was an "old" program in 
1975, but I don't know how old.

Does anybody know when "Letter From America" came on the air?  Perhaps
one of our members in the UK could tell us.  Presumeably, if it came 
on the air prior to 1960 it would qualify as otr, and it's still on,
so it may qualify as the longest running program, and it's on Short
Wave.  

For anyone not familiar with this excellent program, it's on BBC World
Service (short wave).  It's 15 minutes long, and airs Saturday at 1045, 
and 2145, and Sunday at 0030 GMT.  It might be on other BBC services, too.

But the main question is what year did this program begin?   This should
determine whether it's otr or not. 

Happy Taping -  Ken Piletic  - Streamwood, Illinois
kenpiletic@[removed] 

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:31:34 -0800
From: AndyBlatt@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: dual dubbing decks
Message-ID: <960203143125_24062137@[removed]>

I believe JVC makes machines that you can patch in/out of (as though you had
separate machines).  This is what I am told.  I don't own any of these, but
this was the sales pitch.  The machines are
TDW 317TN which replaced the TDW 309TN.   TDW 717TN replaced the TDW 709TN
(the last two units can record on both sides, or both "wells" of the unit.  I
would suspect that the machines that have recording capability on both sides
are the ones that would definitely have in/out patches.  Also, Marantz makes
some units that have line in/line out patches.  These are the high end units,
which have pitch control for both wells as well as recording capability for
both.

****New topic****

A question arose about bulk tape dealers:  I have dealt with about a dozen in
my otr lifetime.  Here's some of the better ones I still patronize:  The
Little Warehouse in Independence, Ohio.  Phone:  1-800-398-0022; CLW
Electronics in Chattanooga, TN.  Phone:  1-800-251-6388; H & W Distributing,
Memphis, TN.  Phone:  1-800-662-TAPE (8273); Kingdom Tapes, Mansfield, PA.
 PHONE:  1-800-788-1122.  Kingdom is the only one on the East coast and their
prices are a bit higher than the others.  They don't generally offer custom
cassettes at the prices the others do, because that's not their only line.
 The others pretty much offer just cassette tape and associated accessories.
 Kingdom sells all sorts of audio equipment, computers, graphics, audio &
video production and it's all located in a former church!  (Just like WBAI,
NYC used to be; maybe that's why 'BAI is so diverse).  In any event, this
should help.  If not, let me know.
Andy

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