Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #86
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Date: 3/25/2006 7:52 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 86
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Suspense & Johnny Dollar          [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
      Radio Transcription Auction           [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
      3-25 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Re: six two and even                  [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
      Re: Hot Ralston                       [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
      Re: Six-Two-Four Ranch                [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
      Classical singing [removed]      [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      Harriet Hilliard, actress             [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      RALSTON                               [ "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed]; ]
      TV/Radio Promotions                   [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      Kellogg's Pep                         [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Ozzie & Harriet                       [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      Re: 10-2-4                            [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Cereals For Serials                   [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
      re: six two and even                  [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      Lum and Abner sites                   [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      That Strong Guy                       [ "John Southard" <jsouthard@[removed] ]

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    Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:45:09 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Suspense & Johnny Dollar

    It was asked, but I don't think fully answered at least as of #84 which
    was the final show of Suspense and Johnny Dollar to leave the air.

    The answer appears to be Suspense which came on over CBS AFTER Johnny
    Dollar. Generally, in the East Johnny Dollar was on about 6:10 PM after
    the news and Suspense followed at about 6:35 PM.

    Jim Widner

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    Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:45:23 -0500
    From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Transcription Auction

    Just a quick reminder that the First Generation Radio Archives Transcription
    Disk Auction for March will be ending soon. We've already received a
    considerable number of bids, but as of this writing, many of the disks will
    be going for their minimum bid price. As a result, in many cases, a bid of
    just a dollar or two above the minimum will win you the disks you want.

    If you're a collector of radio recordings and you're not yet on our mailing
    list, you can quickly sign up by visiting our website at:

    [removed]

    As always, a wide variety of disks are being offered -- truly something for
    almost every taste -- so, if you're interested in 16" disks or old time
    radio in general (and who here isn't?) be sure to sign up today. We know
    you'll like what we have to offer.

    Thanks and best always --

    Harlan Zinck
    First Generation Radio Archives
    "Preserving Radio's Past for the Future"
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:55:49 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-25 births/deaths

    March 25th births

    03-25-1867 - Arturo Toscanini - Parma, Italy - d. 1-16-1957
    conductor: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"
    03-25-1887 - Raymond Gram Swing - Cortland, NY - d. 12-22-1968
    commentator: "Voice of America"
    03-25-1892 - Andy Clyde - Blaingowrie, Scotland - d. 5-18-1967
    actor: California Carlson "Hopalong Cassidy"
    03-25-1897 - John Laurie - Dumfries, Scotland - d. 6-23-1980
    actor: James Fraser "Dad's Army"
    03-25-1899 - Bella Spewack - Bucharest, Romania - d. 4-27-1990
    writer: "The Radio Guild"
    03-25-1901 - Ed Begley - Hartford, CT - d. 4-28-1970
    actor: Walt Levinson "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"; Charlie
    Chan "Charlie Chan"
    03-25-1901 - John Earl Fetzer - Decatur, IN - d. 2-21-1991
    broadcast pioneer: "WKZO Fiftieth Anniversary Broadcast"
    03-25-1903 - Binnie Barnes - London, England - d. 7-27-1998
    panelist: "Leave It to the Girls"; "Breakfast with Binnie and Mike"
    03-25-1903 - Frankie Carle - Providence, RI - d. 3-7-2001
    bandleader, pianist: "Pot o' Gold"; "Treasure Chest"
    03-25-1906 - Margaret Daum - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 2-23-1977
    singer: "American Album of Familiar Music"
    03-25-1908 - David Lean - Croydon, Surrey, England - d. 4-16-1991
    screenwriter, film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-25-1908 - Philip Reed - NYC - d. 12-21-1996
    actor: Ross Barrington "Society Girl"; Brian Wells "David Harum"
    03-25-1909 - Jay Blackton - NYC - d. 1-8-1994
    composer, conductor, pianist: "Stu Erwin Show"; "Broadway Showtime"
    03-25-1914 - Robert Rounseville - Attleboro, MA - d. 8-6-1974
    singer: "The Voice of Firestone"
    03-25-1916 - Jean Rogers - Belmont, MA - d. 2-24-1991
    actor: Elaine Dascomb "Those We Love"
    03-25-1919 - Jeanne Cagney - NYC - d. 12-7-1984
    actor: (Sister of James Cagney) "Movietone Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"
    03-25-1920 - Howard Cosell - Winston-Salem, NC - d. 3-23-1995
    sportscaster: "Speaking of Sports"
    03-25-1921 - Nancy Kelly - Lowell, MA - d. 1-15-1995
    actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Free Company"; "Suspense"
    03-25-1940 - Anita Bryant - Barnsdall, OK
    singer: "Guard Session"; "Let's Go To Town"
    03-25-1965 - Sarah Jessica Parker - Nelsonville, OH
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    March 25th deaths

    01-15-1899 - Goodman Ace - Kansas City, MO - d. 3-25-1982
    comedian, writer: "Easy Aces"
    02-25-1906 - Warren Hymer - NYC - d. 3-25-1948
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
    05-06-1899 - Billy Cotton - London, England - d. 3-25-1969
    bandleader: "Wakey Wakey!!"
    05-10-1921 - Nancy Walker - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-25-1992
    actor: "Mail Call"
    06-01-1905 - Robert Newton - Shaftesbury, England - d. 3-25-1956
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-16-1915 - Gloria Blondell - NYC - d. 3-25-1986
    actor: Gerry Booker "I Love A Mystery" Gloria Dean "Hollywood Mystery
    Time"
    09-08-1902 - Welcome Lewis - d. 3-25-1999
    singer: "Singo"; "The Singing Bee"
    09-16-1911 - Paul Henning - Independence, MO - d. 3-25-2005
    writer: "Burns and Allen"
    09-27-1887 - Pat "Uncle Ezra" Barrett - Holden, MO - d. 3-25-1959
    actor: "National Barn Dance"; Uncle Ezra "Uncle Ezra"
    11-29-1910 - Al Schwartz - Passaic, NJ - d. 3-25-1988
    writer: "Phil Harris/Alice Faye Show"; "Bob Hope Show"
    12-12-1915 - Bea Fontane - d. 3-25-2002
    singer: (The Fontane Sisters) "Chesterfield Supper Club"

    Ron Sayles
    bogusotr@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:43:02 -0500
    From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: six two and even

    Jody Davis wrote:

>     Barbara Watkins asked about the phrase "six two and even." I can't say I've
>     heard it on radio, but I have vivid memories of it from my childhood hours
>     spent in front of the old black-and-white. The phrase was spoken by Dick
>     Tracy in the cartoon series as he was signing off on his 2-way wrist
>     radio/tv. The actual closing was "Six two and even, over and out."

    I thought I read some place where that phrase (six two and even, over
    and out) was also used by Maxwell Smart on "Get Smart."  Am I wrong
    about that?  Perhaps he picked it up from the Dick Tracy stuff?

    Jim Widner

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:43:12 -0500
    From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Hot Ralston

    All of the talk about Hot Ralston prompted me to  write this. I have to
    admit. I loved the stuff when I was a kid, and still do.  It is no where to be
    found in grocery stores in my area, so, I get mine from The  Vermont Store. I
    did
    notice a difference in today's Ralston, not so much in the  taste, but rather
    in the texture of the cereal after it is cooked. Then I  noticed it is the
    "Instant" kind rather than the regular I was always used to  getting when I
    was a
    kid. The difference between instant Ralston, and regular,  is the same to me
    as the difference between instant oatmeal, and old fashioned  oatmeal. The
    instant oatmeal has no "bite." In other words, when you chew it,  there is
    nothing to chew like there is in old fashioned oatmeal due to how the  grain
    is
    processed. It is ground very fine to make it instant, so there is no  chew
    factor.
    I cannot eat instant oatmeal. Way to pasty, and gummy for this guy.  Can you
    imagine making a big batch of raisin oatmeal cookies, and using instant
    oatmeal? No big grains of oats to crunch on. It would be like eating a sugar
    cookie.

    My Ralston was always served with butter, and sugar. White, or  brown.
    Whichever we had at the time. It's still the only way I eat it today. I  wish
    I
    could find regular Ralston some place. Does anyone know if it can be  found?

    I remember conning my mother into buying Nabisco Shredded Wheat  just so I
    could get the cut-outs off of the cardboard dividers that separated  the
    layers
    of biscuits. Or the packages of Kellogg's Pep so I could get the  fighter
    plane cut-outs on the back of the packages. I listened to the radio, and  the
    announcer would tell what great merchandise was on the back of the package,
    but I
    could never find most of them simply because our little store didn't sell
    that much of the stuff, and, as a consequence, didn't turn his stock that
    often.

    Someone mentioned sending off for a premium one day, and then  start looking
    the next day for your package. The first time I heard the saying,  "A Watched
    Pot Never Boils," was because of that very thing. I remember watching  for the
    mailman day after day, and hearing my grandmother say those  words.

    Charlie

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:14 -0500
    From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Six-Two-Four Ranch

    Bob Slate writes:

>     There was  a radio show from the early 1940's called," 6-2-4 Ranch"  or
>     'Six-Two-Four Ranch"and was sponsored by Dr. Pepper. It's Logo: 6-2-4. It
>     starred Universal Pictures cowboy singing star, Dick Foran and The Sons Of
>     The pioneers.

    Close, Bob, but this was in fact "10-2-4 Ranch" and, in addition to Dick
    Foran and the Sons of the Pioneers, it also starred Martha Mears. The title,
    which was also represented in the graphics on the Dr. Pepper bottle,
    supposedly represented the times of day when the human body needs a little
    "pick-me-up" to avoid an energy slump.

    According to Dr. Pepper historians, in the 1920s,  Dr. Walter Eddy at
    Columbia University studied the body's metabolism and discovered that a
    natural drop in energy occurs about 10:30 AM, 2:30 PM, and 4:30 PM. He also
    discovered that if people had something to eat or drink at 10, 2 and 4, the
    energy slump could be avoided. Thus, Dr. Pepper challenged its advertising
    agency to come up with a slogan to suggest that, if people drank a Dr.
    Pepper at 10, 2 and 4, they would keep their energy level up and remain
    bright and energetic throughout the day. The result was the primary theme of
    the advertising on "10-2-4 Ranch," as beautifully "sold" by announcer Art
    Gilmore in his commercials: Drink a bite to eat at 10, 2 and 4.

    Harlan Zinck

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:32 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Classical singing [removed]

    Joe Mackey commented that there are no classical singing commercials.
    That's true, but there are some phony ones sung or composed by PDQ Bach /
    Peter Schickele on some of his recordings.  I have one (on an LP) that was
    sung by a countertenor at the barn studios of WOOF, located near the
    University of Southern North Dakota in Hoople.  During this program one wall
    of the barn is blown out, and we hear cows, chickens, etc.  I think the
    commercial is for a cold remedy.

    PDQ Bach, for those not in the mainstream of the esoteric reconstructions of
    baroque music by Peter Schickele, is a composer of some note.  In one of his
    programs, he offered the entire output of Antonio Vivaldi on 500 (?)
    convenient 45 rpm records to anyone who could identify one of PDQ's
    compositions.

    It is my understanding that PDQ continues to compose and arrange concerts
    and music festivals.  For all of that, I cannot verify that station WOOF is
    still on the air.  Maybe someone from the Hoople area can verify that their
    signal is still being broadcast.

    Ted Kneebone.  OTR website:  [removed]
    Democrats: [removed]
    1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:47 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Harriet Hilliard, actress

    Someone commented on the singing of Harriet Hilliard with her husband's
    band, Ozzie Nelson.

    I have a fine example of Harriet's acting on a Mutual Radio Theater show
    entitled "Decent Christian Woman."  It's a shame that she didn't do more
    radio acting.  What a beautiful, relaxing, gentle voice!
    She plays a retired teacher whose ambition is to see the [removed]

    Ted Kneebone.  OTR website:  [removed]
    Democrats: [removed]
    1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:57 -0500
    From: "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RALSTON

         Can't say I remember ever eating it, but The Grocery Store I work at,
    Fishers Foods of Canton, Ohio has had Ralston on the shelves for at least
    the 14 1/2 years I have worked for them as a stocker/bagger.  Fishers is an
    8-store regional chain in Canton/Stark County, Ohio.

    Tim Lones

    As an aside, It surprises me that they still mention Tom Mix and that
    connection  to Ralston after all these years.

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:54:06 -0500
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  TV/Radio Promotions

    Jim Taylor's question on Tv/Radio promotions

    Jack Benny at the end of his program alway reminded listeners to watch his
    TV show from his first show (10/28/50) until the radio program went to
    broadcasting re-runs. The last new radio program was 5/22/55 . Jack was on
    TV until 1965.

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:54:26 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kellogg's Pep

>     Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:56:19 -0500
>     From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];

>     I must have eaten one of the last manufactured boxes of Pep in
>     general circulation.  It tasted precisely like what I used to eat
>     as a child, but a couple of decades plus later, my tastes had
>     changed.  While I thought it was pretty good as a child, as an
>     adult, I deemed the taste being a cross between Wheaties and
>     cardboard. The taste hadn't changed; *my* taste had.

    If this was one of the last boxes, maybe it was several years old by
    the time you tasted it.  That could make it taste like cardboard.

    I never really liked Ovaltine.  I only used it because I sent to
    Captain Midnight (TV version) for my Silver Dart Decoder Badge and
    signed the Secret Squadron Pledge, which promised to have two glasses
    of Ovaltine every day.  My main complaint was that it never seemed to
    dissolve in the milk.  Why couldn't Captain Midnight have been
    sponsored by Bosco or Nestle's Quick?

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:54:39 -0500
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ozzie & Harriet

    I'm sure how the Nelsons move in to situation comedy, but in 1941 Ozzie's
    Orchestra provided the music for "The Red Skelton Show", with Harriet as the
    vocalist. Harriet also played Clen Kaddidelhopper's girl friend, Daisy June.
    and she was that "mean widdle
    kid" Junior's mother.

    Ozzie & Harriet were guests on a "Duffy's Tavern" 5/30/1944,. They appeared
    on suspense 3 times I know of, and were guests on a Jack Benny show in 1949.
    I have a "Victory Parade of Spotlight Bands" Ozzie Orchestra with Harriet,
    from July of 1943, but the quality isn't very good. If I have it, a lot of
    collectors must have it too.

    In 1936-37 Ozzie's Orchestra was on Robrt Ripley's "Belive It or Not" and
    also On Joe Penner's "Baker's Broadcast "for Fleischmann's Yeast in 1937.
    Harriet was the vocalist .
    On "Believe it or Not" Ozzie was the host.

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:55:20 -0500
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: 10-2-4

    Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; wrote:

>     There was  a radio show from the early 1940's called," 6-2-4 Ranch"  or
>     Six-Two-Four Ranch"and was sponsored by Dr. Pepper.

    I don't remember this one, but I do remember Dr. Pepper, so I figured
    it was probably the 10-2-4 Ranch, since 10-2-4 was printed on their
    bottle and used to be part of their slogan: "Drink a bite to eat at
    10, 2 and 4." They were promoting the health benefits of the drink's
    sugar content and the energy boost it provided at the times of day
    when, supposedly, folks' reserves are most depleted. Hard to imagine
    anyone pushing sugar as health food nowadays. Acoona found this site
    (hope the digest list engine permits a couple of links):
    [removed] I
    don't know anything about the site; they seem to deal in OTR. Nice
    graphics.

    I also was reflecting on how much better I used to like Dr. Pepper. I
    think the taste changed after Coke (I believe) introduced Mr. Pibb to
    compete with it, and many seemed to prefer Mr. Pibb's sweeter, less
    complex cherry flavor. I suspect Dr. Pepper was then changed to more
    closely resemble Mr. Pibb. I had recently been expressing a wish that
    I could find some of the original Dr. Pepper. Happily, on the
    internet nothing is impossible; I also found a site advertising the
    Original Formula Dr. Pepper, which I fully intend to try. It'll be
    interesting to see how accurate my taste buds' memories are.
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:56:02 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cereals For Serials

    Stuart Lubin notes,

>     When Steven A. Kallis, Jr. remarked about not being able to "down" Hot
>     Ralston as a kid, that brought back painful memories.

    Well, I was actually quoting another Digester who had difficulty with the
    Hot Ralston.  My objection to the product, such as it was, was that it
    took more work to prepare than Shredded Ralston.  Shredded Ralston I
    could prepare myself.  All it took was a bowl, a cereal box, milk, and
    sugar.  Hot Ralston had to be boiled, and at the time, I was rather
    clumsy in the kitchen.  I didn't prepare oatmeal in those days either,
    for the same reason.

    In the winter time, hot cereals were welcome.  As was hot Ovaltine.  In
    part, because they were hot.  Back then, we didn't have thermostats, and
    when we lived in Tacoma, the house had a coal furnace.

    Cereals of the period I enjoyed were Kellogg's Pep, Rice Crispies,
    Cheerios, and Shredded Ralston.  The only cereal of the time I didn't
    like was Kix, which was like chewing on crushed rock.  But I even ate Kix
    to get the Atomic Bomb Ring radio premium.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:30:02 -0500
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: six two and even

    Thanks to all who commented on my question re six two and even. Jody Davis
    is probably right about the phrase being from the Dick Tracy cartoon series
    on TV. That would also explain why it is NOT familiar to me. (We didn't have
    TV in those days.) I'll let my listener know. Thanks!

    Barbara

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:15:23 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lum and Abner sites

       Corey Cook asked about sites with L&A shows.  Check out:
       [removed]
       Lots of them there.  :)
       Joe

    --
    Visit my homepage:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:52:12 -0500
    From: "John Southard" <jsouthard@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  That Strong Guy

    I purchased a cd of OTR Hardboiled Detectives in MP3 from an internet
    dealer. It contained all the old favorites, Philip Marlowe, Michael Shayne,
    Jeff Regan, Barrie Craig, Mike Hammer (That Hammer Guy), etc. It also
    contained a program called "That Strong Guy". It is a Private Investigator
    show and the lead character is Steve Strong. This show is not listed in any
    of the usual references, Dunning, Swarta, or Cox.  Does anyone know anything
    about this show? Does anyone know who played the Fatman in Australia?

    John Southard
    jsouthard@[removed]

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