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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 183


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 the Moriarity the merrier -Reply
	 the pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle
	 Administrivia: OTR Digest and Flames
	 Welles
	 I taught I [removed]
	 Macabre
	 Books again
	 cassette labels, software, etc.
	 Welles tributes
	 Radio History Essay
	 Quiet Please
	 Sherlock Holmes and Orson Welles
	 WLAW, Lawrence, Massachusetts
	 Re: The Black Mass: A List 
	 cassette labels
	 Radio drama for South Dakota
	 Fear on Four
	 Re: IBC and Welles, [removed] Digest V96 #182

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 12:02:39 -0600
From: CHCOX@[removed] (Chet Cox)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: the Moriarity the merrier -Reply
Message-ID: <[removed]@fromGW>

"Does anyone out there actually have this Sherlock Holmes episode with
Welles?

Bruce M. Rosenberger Hellertown, PA"

This one's common at chain bookstores such as B. Dalton, Barnes &
Noble, Waldenbooks, [removed] It was one of the first episodes of the Sirs
Rowf Richardson & Little Johnnie Gielgud (Feel free to correct my
spelling.)  series from BBC.  The scripts are unremarkable, mainly straight
adaptations of the hoary stories, but the acting in all parts is superb. 
And, yes, Welles does steal the show as The Professor.  It's fun to
compare this to the Mercury Theatre's Sherlock Holmes (based fairly on
Gillette's play) where Orson the Boy Wonder was on the side of the
angels as Holmes.  (His supporting cast wasn't _nearly_ as memorable,
I'm afraid.)

Again, the Gielgud/Richardson (as Holmes & Watson, respectively)
episodes are quite fun to listen to, but they hold none of the surprises or
type of charm which the Rathbone/Bruce/Bartell shows from California
had.  If you can't find these in your area (Go ahead and pick up the
whole set; you'll enjoy them.), give me a hollar and I'll drop kick a box
your way for cost.

*jeep!
~~~~Chet-EL

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 12:13:33 -0600
From: CHCOX@[removed] (Chet Cox)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: the pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle
Message-ID: <[removed]@fromGW>

Danny Kaye's first radio episode is available in a pack from "America
Before TV" or "Greatapes" (you know how confusing those labels can
be) in a box called "the Legends."  It's from 1945 and includes Eddie
Cantor spending the entire episode frightening the competition (Danny)
away from radio.  Eve Arden, Harry James, Frank (aw, shucks!  Forgot
his name -- the "Yeeeesssss" man from Jack Benny) and Ken Niles also
play crucial roles.  Patz (Paptz?  Papts?) Blue Ribbon sponsored it (Frank
?? played "Mr Patz"), and only a _few_ puns on the Patz Blue Ribbon
name emerged.  Haven't identified the elevator operator yet, but he also
appeared in a number of TV comedies throughout the 60s.  For a special
treat, it starts out with "Russian Composers" where Danny sings so fast
that you have to attend the School for Speed Listeneers to comprehend
him.  Not as funny as most of his movies or his TV show -- Kaye, like
Skelton, really needs BOTH your ears and your eyes.

*jeep!
~~~~~Chet-EL

From: [removed]@[removed]

Hi I have always been a Danny Kaye fan but never knew until a couple
days ago that he had a show of his own. I think it was around 1945.
Were there many produced are there any available and were they any
good?

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 14:36:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bill P <rrb@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed] (Old Time Radio)
Subject: Administrivia: OTR Digest and Flames
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Heel Digest readers

In regards th the <latest> flame fest beginning here on OTR, a few
well-meaning participants have posted notes pleading for sanity and
asking others NOT to respond to the flames.

As well meaning as some of the letters are, unfortunately *any*
response to a flame is adding fuel to the fire.  The *ONLY* way (and I
stress ** ONLY ***) way to quell a flame is to ignore it publicly.  If
you *must* respond do it *ONLY* in private email to the offending
poster and copy me (and Lou if you choose) on your *private* email to
the poster.

It never ceases to amaze me just how gullible people can be and how
easily goaded we can be into responding to what we must know is bait
intended to enrage or upset us.  Because I (and Lou Genco) do not want
this OTR-digest-community to fall apart, and because we have respect
for the people who DO come here to enjoy the OTR hobby, we have
developed this hard-nosed set of guidelines that I am [removed]

          * The 10 commandments of the OTR Digest *

1)  Thou shall NOT post flames in the digest
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    is a flame. 
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    than 5 lines)
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    additional material. 
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10) Thou shall eat thy Wheaties and drink thy Ovaltine.

Blatant offenders shall be warned but once, repeat offenders shall
their subscriptions terminated.

You may think this is too hard-nosed, but I have been on this net for
a Loooong time and have seen many a group damaged or destroyed by the
virus-like spread of flames.  Everyone believes that *their* response
will stop the flame, either by 'proving the flamer wrong' or by
'counter-flaming' to the point where the original flamer will slink
away in defeat.  Unfortunately, neither of these courses of action
*EVER* work.  They only serve to further the battle.

The old adage that many of our parents taught us is [removed] The only
way to defeat a name caller is to walk away and let the a**hole have
the last word.  Sure it is tough, especially when the flamer has
touched your hot button(s), but it is the ONLY way to stop a flamewar
before it starts.

we must hold an absolute line of NOT responding to flames.  Doing so
*NEVER* results in the reduction of the flame baiters.  This is, after
all, only the [removed] It is not real life.  We come here to have
fun.  Let's keep it that way.

Anyone who feels these rules are too strict or restrictive is welcome
to unsubscribe now.  (we will give more leeway on commandment #10 :->).
Please do not post discussions about these rules to the list.
Administrative matters are not OTR related and should be directed to me
and/or Lou Genco.

With best [removed]

William Pfeiffer
List Administrator OTR Digest
wdp@[removed]  *  wdp@[removed] * airwaves@[removed]

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Date: 21 May 96 15:45:00 -0400
From: amo@[removed] (Arlene M Osborne +1 +1 508 960 6273)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Welles
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Bruce Rosenberg asked if anyone has a copy of The Final Problem
in which Orson Welles appears.  I believe I have a copy.

Another topic:
I seem to be missing OTR digest #179.  Bill, can you resend?
I know of one other person who never received it either.

Arlene Osborne amo@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 13:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: ulrich@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: I taught I [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In otr Digest #182, Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]> wrote:

>I just listened to a Judy Canova show from 1943. In it Mel Blanc appears as a
>character named Sylvester. Guess who he sounds like? A certain black cat from
>cartoonland. My question is which came first? When did the Sylsvester/Twweety
>Bird cartooons start? How come he could use the same voice in both venues?

The cartoon Sylvester made his debut (without Tweety, by the way) in "Life
With Feathers" in 1945. This cartoon was directed by Friz Freleng. It was
nominated for an Academy Award.

So there's your answer to how he got away with it. Who's going to mind if
you re-use the voice of a one-shot supporting character from a radio show
two years ago?

--Charles

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 17:22:35 +0000
From: "George S. Cole" <us030822@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Macabre
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Does anyone in radioland have detailed information on this show. It 
was produced, I believe, by overseas armed forces personnel.

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Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 08:40:28 +1000
From: [removed]@[removed] (Andrew Traucki)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Books again
Message-Id: <v01520d02abe5707da559@[[removed]]>

I wrote last week searching for some otr reference titles apart from a
listing by charlie explaining that his daughter could do a search (thank
you) I have had no other feedback so in case any of you missed it here goes
again I live in Australia and am searching for the following books.

1. " Tune in Yesterday " The ultimate encyclopedia of old-time radio
1925-76  by John Dunning.

2. Radio's Golden Age by Frank Buxton and Bill Owen (I believe it covers
the 50s radioplays)

3. Handbook of Old Time Radio by Jon D Swartz and Rob C Reinher.

Any help locating these books would be EXTREMELY appreciated, feel free to
email me direct if you like

Thank You Andrew Traucki

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 19:39:58 -0400
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: cassette labels, software, etc.
Message-ID: <960521193958_306558742@[removed]>

Bruce M. Rosenberger wondered about software to print cassette labels and
appropriate sources for cassette labels themselves.  There's no trade secrets
to running cassette labels on a computer.  The software I ALWAYS recommend to
collectors who want to do cassette labels of ANY kind as well as totally
flexible catalog listings and organize large groups of shows is FileMaker Pro
by Claris.  A lot of collectors took my advice and were very happy.
 FileMaker is available in both Windows and Mac versions and is relatively
inexpensive.  It is very easy to learn, highly dependable and robust.  I say
that after almost 10 years of using it.  You can set up to print labels on
tractor feed labels, laserwriters or even ink jet printers.  You can use
lower cost software, but you'll waste a lot of time (and labels) trying to
get it right, and you won't have nearly the flexibility.    By the way, this
software will work with EITHER legitimate cassette labels or file folder
labels or any other kind.  It includes many pre-made label (and other)
templates and you can easily customize your own with little effort.
Using word processor software to do labels is kind of like using a hand saw
versus a chain saw to cut down a tree.  It works OK, but sure is a pain!  And
try sorting those cassettes or finding (and immediately printing) certain
titles with certain stars in a word processor file.  Forget it!
As far as cassette labels themselves (and cassette supplies in general),
Polyline in Des Plaines IL is my preferred source.    Polyline is at 1233
Rand Rd., Des Plaines IL 60016  (847) 390-6464.  Fax (847) 827-6851.  This
company has been mentioned before on this list.

Just my [removed] [removed]
Bob Burnham; BRC Productions;  Platecap@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 19:48:50 -0400
From: SeptSev@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Welles tributes
Message-ID: <960521194849_540053794@[removed]>

Is there any way to get copies of these Welles tributes?

Thom Bray
septsev@[removed]

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Date: 21 May 96 22:19:27 EDT
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Radio History Essay
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

To the attention of  the Lightenup Department: Re Hysterical Essay 

Have just recvd the Radio History Essay from Joseph M.  Have scanned the work
and found much of interest.  Essays were often required work while in school and
I dreaded every assignment.  The main "ingrediment" for any essay is an interest
in the subject by the author.  This was apparent.  One of the main purposes of
this forum is the dissemination of OTR info and I want to thank Joseph M for
taking the time to make this essay available for his peers to review.  Will
followup with a detailed message direct to my fellow OTR hobbyist, Joseph M.  

Does anyone remember the Jack Benny episode with Mel Blanc where he played a
delivery man trying to deliver some Cimmonon Rolls and everyone kept correcting
him, telling him that they were Cinnamon Rolls only to find out at the end that
the man who baked the rolls was named, you guessed it, Cimmonon. Spelling is
important only if it's going to Mr. Murray, my old high school English teacher.

Anyone else agree?

Norman Cox   

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 20:26:20 -0600
From: aerickse@[removed] (Anna Ericksen)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Quiet Please
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Does anybody know anything about the broadcast of "Valentine" on Quiet
Please. Maybe I missed something, but, was it the normal type of show for
this program?

Ok, I want to trade for some tapes.  I am new to collecting OTR and I have
very little to trade, so how does a new OTR collector trade?

Thanks

Carl

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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 00:16:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sherlock Holmes and Orson Welles
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Tue, 21 May 96 01:07:04 UT
> From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
> To: otr@[removed]

> Does anyone out there actually have this Sherlock Holmes episode with Welles?

There was an hour-long episode of Mercury Theater on the Air which 
starred Welles as Sherlock Holmes.  I think it was one week before or 
after the famous "War of the Worlds" broadcast.  I think I have it, but I 
can't seem to find my list right now.

======================================================================
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
======================================================================

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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 00:29:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WLAW, Lawrence, Massachusetts
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 12:53:46, -0500
> From: bedtime@[removed] ( DAVID ALLAN   BOUCHER)
> To: otr@[removed]
> Subject: Any thoughts on WLAW radio
> 
> Does anyone know anything about WLAW radio in Massachusetts?

WLAW, Lawrence, Massachusetts used to operate on 680 kHz from transmitting
facilities in Burlington, MA, near the present site of the Burlington
Mall.  In 1953 or thereabouts, the station was purchased by WNAC, which
then operated at 1260 kHz from a transmitting facility somewhere in
Quincy.  WNAC took over WLAW's transmitter and dial position and sold the 
facility in Quincy.  That station became WVDA and later WEZE, its present 
call.

WNAC became WRKO in the late 1960s and still transmits from the former 
WLAW facility in Burlington.

For more information, see the WRKO history article at the Boston Radio 
Archives website:  [removed]

======================================================================
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
======================================================================

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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 00:37:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwavesOTR <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: The Black Mass: A List 
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

	As promised, below is as much complete information as I can assemble
on the KPFA series The Black Mass.  Except as noted, these programs cam from
the Pacifica Radio Archives.

The Flies
Oh Mirror, Mirror
Shidah and Kuziba
Evening Primrose
An Evening's Entertainment
2 By Poe - The Predicament and Tell-Tale Heart
Nightmare
Bartleby The Scrivener (Melville)
A Country Doctor
The Ash Tree
Atrophy
The Judgemewnt
2 By Ambrose Bierce - Oil of Dog  and Esme

	Sorry I don't have more info on the above, the reel is 
temporarily missing.

Reel 2
The Jolly Corner by Henry James
Diary of a Madman by Nikolai Gogol 
Legend of the Island of Falles by Betty (Sandbrook?, Sambrook?)
All Hallows by Walter de la Mer
Dream of a Ridiculous Man by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Death of Halpin Frasier by Ambrose Bierce
Moonlit Road by A. Bierce
Two By Poe - Man in the Crowd and Ms. Found in a Bottle
Tales by Lord Dusaney


Reel 3
The Outsider by [removed] Lovecraft
Proof Positive by Graham (sp?) Greene
     and  Witch of the Willows by Lord Dunsaney
The Renegade by Albert Camus
The Squaw by Bram Stoker
Rats in the Walls by [removed] Lovecraft

*Pickman's Model - Lovecraft (Not Black Mass -this is a WBAI production)

The following not from Archives - mostly airchecks of KPFA or KPFK
Great American Scream - KPFK 
	The Boarded Window by Ambrose Bierce
	and A Haunted House by Virginia Wolfe
The Feeder by Earl Linder
Imp of the Perverse by Poe KQED, San Francisco (15")
	As you can see by the authors, this series went somewhat beyond the 
scope of OTR horror series. 	
Sorry about the phonetic spelling on some of the names.  To correct 
something here yesterday, I see that the show Candaules Commissioner is 
credited to the Actor's Workshop, not Black Mass.
	I have located one Black Mass show with an original archive label:
Dream of a Ridiculous Man  Archive #BB5499  36:00, although this tape 
has no open, close, or credits, and my older copy is listed as 37:40".  A 
cast of 6 is listed on the label, and the show is highly produced with SFX 
and original music by Ian Underwood.  Broadcast date is listed as 1/29/67. 
The cast list includes Shirley Jones - could it be the same one?  
	I suspect that the series was produced on an irregular basis over 
many years, time and budget permitting.
	Rats in the Walls and The Outsider were released in the 70s on LP in
a very limited pressing, maybe 1,000, that I found at a comic book convention.
	I am going to try to contact someone who worked on the series 
with Erik Bauersfeld; if I get anything more on the series, I'll post it 
here.  	-Max

	PACIFICA PROGRAM SERVICE AND RADIO ARCHIVES
	3729 Cahuenga Blvd. West
	North Hollywood, CA  91604
	(818) 506-1077	

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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 00:18:05 -0400
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: cassette labels
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I've notice a lot of questions about label programs. If you own WordPerfect,
you can do cassette labels. It takes just a few minutes to do the layout and
then once you have it, just insert the new information.

If anyone needs help, drop me E-Mail and I'll send you instructions.

We have been buying our labels from Polyline. They run about $[removed] per
thousand when purchased in quantity.

I also wrote a program a number of years ago that will type pin feed labels
on a dot matrix printer. It is exteemly easy to use, but is really designed
for typing multiple copies of the same label.

                        Fred

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Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 23:42:22, -0500
From: UGTH94A@[removed] (MR TED   KNEEBONE)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio drama for South Dakota
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I tried to send the following message to you May 16, but apparently it
didn't arrive. Or maybe you didn't have room for it. Here it is again:
South Dakota public radio has no radio drama, either old time or modern.
There is only one variety/comedy show, Garrison Keillor. I have written to
the program directors recently and a few years ago. They can't find a
source of radio drama/comedy/variety. So I am going to offer, with the help
of the readers of OTR Digest to help them find some. And to the best of my
knowledge there are no commercial radio stations in the Aberdeen area
(possibly the entire state) that have any kind of radio drama, old or modern.
   Please help me locate sources of these programs for them. I would need
series titles, addresses, phone numbers, if available. They will have to
negotiate their own rates. The SD Public Radio Network covers the entire
state, so I suppose they will have to pay rates for the whole state.  As I
have been reading the Digest for a month, I have seen numerous references
to radio drama produced by BBC, CBC, and even the network they are
affiliated with, NPR.
   The SDPRN did a survey about three years ago and reported in their own
program log that there was considerable interest in both "old" and modern
radio drama & comedy, but nothing has yet happened to fill the void. Ross
King, present program director, promised that there would be some such
shows on in the future.
   If you can help us with information, I will pass it along to him.  We
had our public radio & TV budget cut by the state legislature, and we did
lose one originating station in Brookings, but I suspect that if the shows
start appearing on SDPRN there will be more people pledging financial
support for the network. Thank you for whatever help you can give us.

   I am very much enjoying reading the OTR Digest. Every issue brings back
a memory or makes me want to comment. But the next issue has the answer to
the question, the comment I might have made. I am on Prodigy and saving all
the issues (so far) on my "in progress" file. The time will come when I
have to weed out some issues. Wish there were a way to print out sections
of the Digest so I could delete issues. The only way I can think of is to
stop my printer when the sections are printed. Any ideas?      Ted Kneebone

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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 02:03:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwavesOTR <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Fear on Four
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

	The episodes that I have from this series are dated 1988-89. 
I know of at least 14 shows, four from early '88, the rest from early '89.

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Date: Wed, 22 May 96 09:40 BST-1
From: midshires@[removed] (Andrew Emmerson)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: midshires@[removed]
Subject: Re: IBC and Welles, [removed] Digest V96 #182
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In-Reply-To: <[removed]@[removed]>
>International Broadcasting Company, IBC, which was located across the 
street from the BBC in Portland Place, London (helping to add to the 
confusion with the BBC).

The IBC was the company behind many English-language radio programmes 
beamed into Britain from continental Europe before WW2 ([removed] Radio 
Normandy). Because the BBC did not take commercials, enterprising 
advertisers took time with sponsored programmes recorded in London and 
played out from those foreign stations.

After the war this mania for foreign commercial programmes was not so hot 
(we only had Radio Luxembourg) but IBC studios did other recording jobs, 
even pop music sessions.

Harry Alan Towers was on the BBC recently describing his work with Welles 
(and letting out a number of trade secrets, [removed] Welles was a lousy 
script writer -- allegedly). It lasts about 20 minutes maximum. If anyone 
wants a copy, I can do them a copy.

Andy Emmerson. 

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