Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #325
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Date: 8/27/2003 9:43 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 325
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      otr sayings                           [ "Davis Mills" <otrdave@[removed] ]
      pay any price                         [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
      alfred bester                         [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
      The Glowing Dial                      [ "John W. Matthews" <glowingdial1@co ]
      Roma, Petri & Cresta Blanca           [ "Paul M. Thompson" <beachcomber@com ]
      A&C - Mudder & Fodder                 [ "John W. Matthews" <glowingdial1@co ]
      Spike Jones In Stereo                 [ Musiciantoo47@[removed] ]
      Walden is wrong                       [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Re: Radio Sayings                     [ Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed] ]
      Bill Williams                         [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Gene Autry / Melody Ranch - Last Pro  [ otrdude@[removed] ]
      The BBC archive - free?               [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      re: Costello's horse                  [ revelation206jm@[removed] ]
      DeForest & Marconi per McGee          [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
      Eileen Wood                           [ FIRESIDE23@[removed] ]
      escape reels                          [ "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
      Ferde Grofe                           [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
      Review of 50s Entertainment           [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:38:38 -0400
    From: "Davis Mills" <otrdave@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  otr sayings
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    I think the one I hear so much is, 'Say, what's the big idea"? That or,
    "No!...No! It can't be! I can't believe it, I won't believe it!" Dave Mills

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:38:57 -0400
    From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  pay any price

    This is off topic, in the sense that it is a british show, but I heard it
    here on KCRW in Santa Monica.  It is a 10 part series called Pay Any
    Price which among other things deals with the Kennedy assassination.  The
    author is (not sure of the spelling) Ted Albury and I actually found
    something about the show on google but couldn't find a way to contact
    anybody about it.  I am interested in the show on MP3 since it is a
    rather different look at the Kennedy assassination.  If anybody has any
    information on this, please let me know.  Thanks.  Kurt

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:39:09 -0400
    From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  alfred bester

    I stumbled across a fact today, that Alfred Bester wrote old radio shows,
    Nero Wolf among others.  Obviously, he wrote great SF novels, the stars
    my destination and the demolished man, plus a short story called Fondly
    Fahrenheit.  My question is though, did he write any original science
    fiction for radio, not counting series he wrote for?  If anybody knows, I
    would be extremely interested.  Thanks in advance.  Kurt

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:08:09 -0400
    From: "John W. Matthews" <glowingdial1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Glowing Dial

        Hi folks, sorry I don't actually contribute more often.  Usually I just
    read what all you extremely knowledgeable folks out there have to say and if
    I feel I have something to contribute, I do.

        This purpose of this post is to get in a plug.  Some of you know that I
    hosted The Glowing Dial for Yesterday USA Radio
    ([removed]) for nearly 5 years.  I went through some very
    bad personal problems and had to end the show a few years ago.  Currently
    there is no open slot for us on YUSA but when there is, we intend to submit
    another audition show.  We loved our run on YUSA and made a lot of friends
    there, many that we still communicate with.

        Now to the plug which is in the form of 'the good news'.  The Glowing
    Dial is returning September 1, 2003.  The show has had a few changes, but by
    the same token, some things have remained unchanged.  The show will now run
    about 3 hours in length and will be available on my web site The Glowing
    Dial Page in 3 downloadable MP3 files, sorry but I don't have the money to
    stream it.  Also returning to our page are our contests.  We'll have a Name
    That Voice contest which will coincide with the 9/1/2003 premiere of the new
    version of the show.

        I'd like to invite you all to take a listen and then drop us an e-mail
    and let us know what you think of the new version of The Glowing Dial.  Is
    it too long?  Do we talk too much (a definite possibility ;-) ?  We are open
    to requests too although because of the way we record the shows (several at
    once because of my co-host's busy schedule) we cannot guarantee immediate
    request satisfaction but we'll eventually get there.

        I'll post (if I may) the contents of each new episode (a new one every 3
    weeks) right here for all interested parties.  The contents of the premiere
    are listed below.

    EPISODE # NET 01

    1.)  LOVE THY NEIGHBOR PREVIEW SHOW with Jack Benny & Fred Allen   1940
    Paramount Studios

    2.)  LINIT BATH CLUB REVUE with Fred Allen   "JUDGE ALLEN'S COURT OF
    JUSTICE"   1/22/33   CBS

    3.)  THE HALL OF FANTASY   # 12   "THE NIGHT THE FOG CAME"   3/16/53
    MUTUAL

    4.)  GLOBE THEATER   # 140   "A NIGHT TO REMEMBER"    AFRS

    5.)  GUEST STAR   # 10   "FIBBER  McGEE & MOLLY"   1947   [removed] Treasury
    Dept.

    6.)  MYSTERY IN THE AIR starring Peter Lorre  "THE LODGER"   8/14/47   NBC

    That's the program line-up.  Hope you enjoy the show.

    The link for the new shows is:
    [removed] .
    The link for The Glowing Dial Page is:
    [removed] .
    And, you can hear classic episodes, Serial Theatre & Jack Webb radio shows
    at:
    [removed]

    Thanks for the indulgence and I'll see you on the radio!

    John W. Matthews

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:00:15 -0400
    From: "Paul M. Thompson" <beachcomber@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Roma, Petri & Cresta Blanca

    The question whatever happened to Roma and Petri Wines has cycled
    two or three times in recent years as new fans of old radio join the list.
    While catching up with my recent backlog of digests I see the question
    surfaced once again a couple of weeks ago. For those still interested
    here is a response of mine from a February 2001digest that I called
    The Wines of Radio:

    An earlier question about the fate of Roma wine resulted in a variety
    of recent comments. Here are a few more about those wines from
    California we used to hear so much about on the radio.

    Roma had quite a history dating back to the late 1880's as did Petri,
    Italian Swiss Colony and Cresta Blanca. Originating in Lodi, Roma
    moved to Fresno after Prohibiton where they thrived and were later
    bought out by Schenley Distillers in the 1940's. Although it was neither
    a special or memorable wine, I recall Roma as being a decent wine
    at a time when non vintage generics such as burgundy, sherry, port,
    sauterne and muscatel were standard fare for the many lower priced
    labels of the 1940's and 50's. In fact, it was said to have been the best
    selling brand in the [removed] by the 1950's. Roma's sponsorship of Suspense,
    beginning in 1943, helped elevate that program to a new level of
    excellence with their infusion of talent and production monies which
    helped Suspense's popularity and probably contributed to it's longevity.
    For that reason alone, I'll always have a warm spot in my heart for the
    name Roma Wine.

    Petri is probably best remembered for their sponsorship of the Sherlock
    Holmes series for three or four years and then The Casebook of Gregory
    Hood which succeeded Holmes. Petri was located in Escalon near Modesto
    and they also did very well, acquiring several wineries in the 1940's
    including the Italian Swiss Colony line. In later years the Petri holdings
    were bought by Heublein and Petri seemed to fade away while Italian
    Swiss Colony could be found on the shelves well into the seventies.
    It may still exist, but I haven't seen it for years.

    Cresta Blanca, located in the Livermore valley, was of higher quality
    than the others and also eventually became part of the Schenley
    family. This was obvious in 1947 when, in addition to the Roma
    commercials, we would also hear credits for Schenley's and spots
    for Cresta Blanca during a Suspense episode. In the early 1970's both
    Roma and Cresta Blanca were gobbled up by Guild Wines but remained
    in production at least through that decade.  A New York company named
    Canandaiqua bought out Guild in the mid 1990's. I've recently read that
    both the Roma and Cresta Blanca brand names survive and are owned
    by Canandaiqua but have no idea whether or not they market any wines
    under these labels.  If they do and you find any, why not take the advice
    of Truman Bradley and try a glass the next time you listen to an episode of
    Suspense?  Wouldn't be the same wine but what the hell, that's what
    imaginations are for.

    Paul Thompson

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:46 -0400
    From: "John W. Matthews" <glowingdial1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  A&C - Mudder & Fodder

    Hi folks, Kenneth Clarke just asked about the Abbott & Costello Mudder &
    Fodder routine and where he might find a copy.  I have that and another
    similar routine in MP3 on my site at [removed] .
    They are from a 78 I have.  They probably run a bit fast and I have been
    meaning to pitch them a bit so they sound normal.  I may do that fairly
    soon.  Anyway they're available now at the site above.
    Hope that helps!

    See you on the radio,

    John W. Matthews
    The Glowing Dial Page
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:56 -0400
    From: Musiciantoo47@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Spike Jones In Stereo
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    Hi - I was just wondering if anyone would happen to have a clean sounding
    copy of "Spike Jones In Stereo?" I downloaded a copy offline some time ago
    but it
    was pretty obvious that the source was a cassette tape because there's a lot
    of hiss and hi frequency loss. The stereo separation is great. Here's hoping
    someone out there has a clean copy I could somehow obtain. It's Definitely a
    rare collector's item nowadays.

    Thanx to all in advance (-:

    Kenny

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:05:23 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Walden is wrong

    Hi Everybody,

    I was wrong Eileen Wood did not take over for Beryl Davis in 1948 on the Hit
    Parade.  I am going to need to do some more checking.  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:05:36 -0400
    From: Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Radio Sayings

    At 11:25 PM -0400 8/26/03, Cooper Smith wrote:

>     Unh, unh, unh! Don't touch that dial!

    What show was this saying from? I've heard it for years, but I don't recall
    its origin.

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:06:05 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bill Williams

    Hi Everybody,

    is Bill Williams who stared in some Lux Radio Theater and married to Barbara
    Hale still around?  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:44:29 -0400
    From: otrdude@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gene Autry / Melody Ranch - Last Program
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    I have a copy of Gene Autry's Melody Ranch that is labeled Last Program. In
    listening to it, I am struck that Gene Autry does not appear on it. Is there
    a story behind this?

    Andrew Steinberg

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:57:12 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The BBC archive - free?

    For any curious parties - an essay about the BBC's possible decision to post
    their entire archive on the web for free downloads (or technically free) may
    become a reality.  If they decide to go for this, can you just imagine the
    amount of BBC radio material that would become available for listening -
    both entertainment and historical?

    [removed]

    Link to the essay is above.
    Martin

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:06:19 -0400
    From: revelation206jm@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Costello's horse

    As it's listed on my cd I have "Costello's Horse Peanut Butter" which I don't
    think is an actual show title and also "Lou Goes to the Race Track to Lose
    Money" from March 13, 1947 . I think they are both the the same episode. I
    really couldn't tell you if the dates or titles are correct. Here is part of
    the routine beggining with Costello's question:
    "What does a horse eat?"
    "A horse eats his fodder."
    "well that's fine. And what does the horse's father eat?"
    "He eat's his fodder."
    "Well whadda you know. And what does the horse's mother eat?"
    "She eats her fodder."
    "What are they cannibals?"

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:56:54 -0400
    From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  DeForest & Marconi per McGee
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    Hi Gang -

    Sandy Singer's posting in issue 324 about Lee DeForest
    reminded me of a Fibber McGee program.   McGee is
    telling a tale to Teeny.   It goes something like [removed]

    When Marconi was inventing the radio, DeForest was
    inventing the radio, too.   But Marconi didn't know that
    DeForest was inventing the radio.  That's because
    Marconi lived in the woods, and he couldn't see DeForest
    for the trees.

    Happy Taping --- Ken
    kenpiletic@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:06:00 -0400
    From: FIRESIDE23@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Eileen Wood
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    For those interested, Eileen Wood was the singing voice of Cinderella in the
    1949 Disney movie. She was the female singer on at least one Martin and Lewis
    radio show That I have. Wonder what ha happened to her?
    Mike Campbell

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:25:55 -0400
    From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  escape reels

    hi all
    up for sale are 13 reels of escape they are very low gen from my sources
    not anyone else, they are recorded 6 shows per reel,in case anyone wants
    to know why? i have them all on cd, cleaned etc, again from my source
    the cost for all is $65 and postage
    and i now have 4 breakfast club shows on cd and a number of robert q
    lewis shows all on cd if this type of show interests you  from my 16in discs.
    if interested contact me at edcarr@[removed]
    thanks, ed

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:53:36 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ferde Grofe

    A friend of mine is writing an article on the great composer of THE GRAND
    CANYON SUITE, Ferde Grofe.

    Other than his signature suite for Phillip Morris has  any of his other
    music for such OTR programs as Dinah Shore, Burns and Allen, and Fred Allen
    made it onto available CD's or tapes.  My friend is looking for
    transcriptions of his radio work.

    Thank you.

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:53:50 -0400
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Review of 50s Entertainment

    This article from National Review's website takes a look at the
    individualistic values of 1950s pop culture heroes, including several who
    were primarily radio characters like Ozzie & Harriet, the Lone Ranger and
    Superman.

    It may not mention OTR directly but it's relevant.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

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