Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #276
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 7/20/2002 9:03 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 276
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Doggie Diner                      [ Kelli Stanley <ks4color@[removed] ]
      little people again                   [ bloodbleeds@[removed] ]
      Graf Spee                             [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
      Re: Duncan Maclain                    [ Taylor401306@[removed] ]
      Re: Little People                     [ Taylor401306@[removed] ]
      Paul Harvey                           [ "Read G. Burgan" <rgb@[removed] ]
      Suspense question-- blind detecive    [ "John R. Warmington" <origami@chatl ]
      Program to Re-Elect FDR               [ Wboenig@[removed] ]
      Big roles for little people           [ "Arte" <arte@[removed]; ]
      commercials                           [ "Arte" <arte@[removed]; ]
      Re: Magicians/OTR                     [ Ehutchison@[removed] ]
      Stan Freberg                          [ "glen schroeder" <gschroeder10@char ]
      Re: FDR thanks you!                   [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      Another whistling theme               [ "glen schroeder" <gschroeder10@char ]
      Re: WVTF                              [ Vntager8io@[removed] ]
      FDR Humor                             [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      [removed] Walter Tetley       [ Dancingdays72777@[removed] ]
      Joe Franklin's guest tomorrow night   [ "Jackie Lannin" <jackquack@[removed] ]
      Bob Bailey                            [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Programs that began with the ringing  [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
      Atwater Kent/Betsy Ross               [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:39:10 -0400
    From: Kelli Stanley <ks4color@[removed];
    To: OldRadio Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Doggie Diner

        Thanks, Irene, for sharing the story of our beloved Bay Area Doggie
    Diner.  As a matter of fact, I live fairly near the Diner, and have been
    a fan of it since I was a little girl and we used to take occasional
    trips into the City.
    The unions did an amazing job of restoration!
        If anyone wants to see a pre-restored head (worn, but still intact
    on his pole--this was before the accident)--email me off-list and I'll
    send you a jpeg I have on my computer.  I took a lot of pictures when
    the whole stink with the nursery began, fearing that dear "DD" would be
    torn down any minute.
        Thanks, too, to that fantastic and estimable actor and OTR
    personality, Mr. Harry Bartell, for the suggestion of "Thomas Freebairn
    Smith" on my search for the announcer of Forecast #4.   It sounds to me
    as if he might be identifying himself this way, and the name itself
    suggests his voice--a sort of British--or rather high-toned
    Mid-Atlantic-accent.
        I've been enjoying the soda/pop/soft drink [removed] might
    interest you to know that more than one Texan I've known describes all
    such potables as "Cokes"...whether or not it's a Dr. Pepper or what have
    you.  Interesting!
    I agree with whoever it was that was yearning for Ovaltine.  I just love
    [removed] perhaps that's from listening to too much Little Orphan Annie.
    At least a few of those episodes can surely qualify as the first
    "infomercial!"  The pandering is both shameless and irresistable, and
    not a little shocking to those of us who grew up in the post-Dr. Spock
    era.  I'm [removed] kid commercials at all monitored?  Was anyone
    paying any attention to the fact that an entire show was, for example,
    built around LOA receiving a ring from Daddy Warbucks--a ring which, not
    coincidentally-was that evening's premium?  It's to laugh when one
    considers the early stance about "no advertisment on radio."  Things
    certainly changed quickly!

    All the best,

    Kelli Stanley

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:45:36 -0400
    From: bloodbleeds@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  little people again

    Thanks for that response about Quiet Please. The question about little people comes from
    Charles Stumpf who is deeply into writing a book on little people.

    Does anyone know if Billy Barty did much radio? He seems to be the most famous of the
    little people - except for a few of the prominent munchkins, like Jerry Maren.

    Ben

    The Bickersons Scripts book!
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:53:12 -0400
    From: leemunsick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Graf Spee

    Some years ago I watched a film on television--probably a made-for-TV
    film--about the tracking, trapping and subsequent scuttling of the Graf
    Spee outside Montevideo harbor.  I do not recall the title oof the film, or
    the name of the actor who portrayed the announcer.

    According to our guru John Dunning, that was NBC's correspondent" James
    [removed] on the Montevideo docks with a portable microphone and a
    clear shortwave channel to New York".    NBC kept the line open to Bowen as
    the end neared, whatever it was to be.

    Dunning's description of the last words of several tense days is
    reminiscent of Herbert Morrison's excitement at Lakehurst:  "Give me the
    air, quick!  She's exploded!"  As we know, "the Germans had blown up their
    ship, and NBC had a firsthand account just half a minute after the
    explosion".

    I believe the film I saw was presented as a documentary of factual
    events.  It depicted what was going on with insight into all sides of the
    matter, and the work of that one lone radio announcer who happened to be in
    Uruguay that December of 1939, and supplied on the scene descriptive
    information to the rest of the world for several days.

    I'd like to find a copy of this film or video.  I recommend it for anyone
    interested in WW II or in Naval "battles".

    There is another fine film from 1956 about the Spee, and its fellow Nazi
    vessels Scharnhorst, Biscmarck and Gneissan.  It is called "The Battle of
    the River Plate.

    If anyone can help me find either of these films, I shall appreciate the
    help.  Many thanks!

    Lee Munsick   Appomattox County, Virginia

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:27:53 -0400
    From: Taylor401306@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Duncan  Maclain
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    In a message dated 7/19/02 3:36:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     My question is about a
>     certain episode of "Suspense". It had a blind detective named Captain McClain
>     in it. Does anyone know the name of that particular episode. You help would
>     be greatly appreciated.

    I'm not familiar with that episode but the character is Duncan Maclain,
    created by  Baynard  Kendrick. The character also inspired the "Longstreet"
    TV series with James Franciscus.

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:28:39 -0400
    From: Taylor401306@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Little People
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    In a message dated 7/19/02 3:36:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     I was curious if there have been any series or single shows that had little
>     people/midgets in the lead. Most midget roles seem to be Very small (no
>     pun intended), and I was curious if any of them had 'significant' roles.

    On OTR, anyone could be a little person. On TV, there has been Michael Dunn
    as Dr. Loveless on "Wild, Wild West". There was also a TV series called "The
    Wizard'. I believe the little person who starred in that series committed
    suicide when the show was cancelled. There was Herve Villachaise on "Fantasy
    Island". There is ,of course, Billy Barty ! He surely did some OTR ?

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:53:31 -0400
    From: "Read G. Burgan" <rgb@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Paul Harvey

    For the sake of accuracy, Paul Harvey is 84 years old -- born in 1918.
    Let's not make the poor man any older than he already is.  All of us are
    aging fast enough without someone else adding another 20 years to our age.
    Groan.

    Read Burgan

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:55:15 -0400
    From: "John R. Warmington" <origami@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Suspense question-- blind detecive

    Much can be found using search engines-- Google, in this case:

    Greg Kaulfers refers to an episode with a blind detective called "Out of
    Control."
    [removed]

    This web page describes that show-- but no longer offers a download.
    [removed]

    I hope this is the one.

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:15:44 -0400
    From: Wboenig@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Program to Re-Elect FDR
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    In a message dated 7/19/02 7:54:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    Petersenharris2@[removed] writes:

>     I'm looking for the recordings [removed]
>     (snip)
>     3) "Hollywood for Roosevelt" - a 1940 program where Groucho, Lucilel Ball
>     and
>     Humphrey Bogart come out to support the President's reelection.

    Is there any chance that the program you want is actually from 1944?  I have
    the following program in my collection (description extracted from my Marx
    Brothers On Radio notes, hence the featuring of Groucho):

    "November 6, 1944:  Democratic National Committee Program To Re-Elect FDR b
    Groucho appeared on this election eve special, which was carried by both NBC
    and CBS.  Other guests included Humphrey Bogart (host), Judy Garland,
    Claudette Colbert, James Cagney, Irving Berlin, Tallulah Bankhead, Frank
    Sinatra, Milton Berle, Edward G. Robinson, and Keenan Wynn.  60 minutes."

    But no mention of Lucille Ball.

    Wayne Boenig

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:15:53 -0400
    From: "Arte" <arte@[removed];
    To: "OldRadio Mailing List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Big roles for little people

    Ben was wondering about significant roles for midgets in
    OTR.
    I don't know about radio, but David Rappoport starred as a
    detective of some sort in a short-lived series on that other
    medium. (in the 80's, I think)

    Arte
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:16:34 -0400
    From: "Arte" <arte@[removed];
    To: "OldRadio Mailing List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  commercials

    George Tirebiter wrote:

>     This is even more true on music format radio.  There must be 6 or 8
>     music stations in my area that I can listen to with some enjoyment. Once
>     a 5 minute run of commercials begins I usually just switch to another station.

    That doesn't work in the Chicago area. All the stations take
    their breaks at the same time.

    Arte
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:16:58 -0400
    From: Ehutchison@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Magicians/OTR
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    It may be of interest to some to note that a good many show business
    personalities from Howard Morris and Edgar Bergen to Johnny Carson and
    Richard Himber have been interested in magic.

    In addition, David Elman, who was featured on the radio program, "Hobby
    Lobby," was quite interested in an allied art--hypnosis.  As a seven year old
    he was billed in vaudeville as the world's youngest hypnotist, and in his
    post-radio days he instructed physicians and dentists in the medical uses of
    hypnotherapy.

    The great irony in this, which was often  mentioned by Mr. Elman, was that
    while his students possessed doctorates, he lacked a high school diploma.
    However, as one who has had the benefit of listening to tapes of his old
    classes, I can attest to his encyclopedic knowledge of the subject of
    hypnosis--or what he termed "suggestive therapy."  Interestingly, transcripts
    of these tapes are still much sought after by students of the subject.

    Edward Hutchison
    Jackson, MS

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:17:09 -0400
    From: "glen schroeder" <gschroeder10@[removed];
    To: "otr" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Stan Freberg

    Hi all.

    You are right about the Stan Freberg album that came out after his radio
    shows. I have the album, but, I can't think of the name of it right now.
    There is a bit on the album where Stan is trying to sell himself to a
    sponsor. There was a Marlburo commercial at the time that went "You get a
    lot to like with a Marlburo. Filter, flavor, flip top box. On the album it
    went. "You get a lot to like with a Freberg.  Sneakers, glasses, flip top
    head."

    Love dis list

    Glen Schroeder

    Madison WI

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    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:19:09 -0400
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: FDR thanks you!

    Petersenharris2 wrote that he was looking for:

>     3) "Hollywood for Roosevelt" - a 1940 program where Groucho, Lucille Ball
>     and Humphrey Bogart come out to support the President's reelection.

    I can't prove it, but I strongly suspect that one is from 1944, not 1940.
    First of all, while Ms. Ball and Mr. Bogart were working actors in 1940,
    they weren't yet the bona-fide stars they would be by '44.  Second, Groucho
    - who admitted this in print more than once - did not support Roosevelt's
    bid for a third term and voted for Willkie in '40.  He did stump for
    Roosevelt in '44 "because we were in the middle of a war, and a changeover
    at that time didn't seem adviseable."  There are photos of Mr. Marx with
    Danny Kaye, Dorothy Lamour and Edward G. Robinson doing some "campaigning"
    for the fourth term in Groucho's 1976 book "The GrouchoPhile" (from whence
    comes the quote above).

    Michael

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:01:28 -0400
    From: "glen schroeder" <gschroeder10@[removed];
    To: "otr" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Another whistling theme

    I heard a couple of Red Rider shows this week from 1942 on Yesterday USA and
    they both had whistling in the theme. Regards.

    Love dis list

    Glen Schroeder

    Madison WI

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:01:51 -0400
    From: Vntager8io@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: WVTF

    Chris Holm wrote about WVTF:

    <<I even wrote to them a couple of times asking them to add OTR to the
    broadcast [removed];>

    This truly is an incredible list! As a resident of Lynchburg, VA, I listen to
    Virginia Tech's Public Radio Station, WVTF more than any other station. I,
    too, wrote to them a couple years ago requesting that they add OTR to their
    lineup instead of the obnoxius modern jazz they play every weeknight for
    many, many hours. I even offered to supply them with plenty of programs and
    went so far as to send them an audio CD with clips of my favorite OTR shows.
    I didn't hear one peep back from them. At least now I know I'm not the only
    one who's written to them about OTR! Maybe one of these [removed]

    Bryan Wright

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:23:27 -0400
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  FDR Humor

    Thomas Mason remembered a joke based on L/S/M/F/T that the kids told in
    school.
    I remember a chant that we kids used after the 1944 Presidential
    election. "Roosevelt's in the White House talking to a lady.
    Dewey's in the ash can crying like a baby"

    This was not a political sentiment as I recall, but rather a reflection
    of the feelings we had toward anyone who would challenge the President
    who was such a strong father figure for us.

    As for  Hal Stone calling me "Georgie Porgie" I've got just one thing to
    say.
    Okay for you Haaaarlan!

    George Aust

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:23:59 -0400
    From: Dancingdays72777@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed] Walter Tetley
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    Greetings all! My name is Matt [removed] 24 year old radio reporter in
    Wilmington, Delaware and an OTR fan since age six. Just found out about the
    OTR digest and just HAD to join up. Wanted to take the opportunity to say
    "hi" and let you all know how much I enjoy the digest [removed]
    upon seeing that people who were a part of this wonderful era like Harry
    Bartell and Conrad Binyon take part in the [removed] I just listened
    to Mr. Bartell tonight bantering with Nigel Bruce on Sherlock Holmes!!!

    I hope to learn a lot more about OTR through this forum, and look forward to
    chatting with all of you nice people. Now that I've signed on, I was
    wondering if someone could give me any info about the post Gildersleeve life
    of Walter Tetley. I love him as Leroy on Gildy and Julius on Phil Harris and
    Alice Faye. When I first listened to those shows as a young boy in the 80's,
    I thought Walter was a kid. I was shocked to learn he was well into his 20s
    when he started on Gildersleeve and that he had a condition that affected his
    growth and voice. I know Tetley passed away around 1975, but I can't track
    down what happened to him after Gildy went off the air in the mid 50's. Can
    anyone fill in the blanks?

    Thanks,

    Matt Cherry

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:17:19 -0400
    From: "Jackie Lannin" <jackquack@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Joe Franklin's guest tomorrow night

    Hello all,
        Tomorrow evening-actually Sunday morning on WOR 710 AM radio between 12-
    5 [removed] my good friend Lou Miano will be on Mr. Franklin's show. He will be
    discussing his book "Russ Columbo, The Amazing Life and Mysterious Death of
    a Singing Legend".  Not to be too boastful, but this is an extremely well
    written book about the short, but extremely successful life of the famous
    crooner.
        Thanks and have a good weekend-
           Jackie

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:17:43 -0400
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bob Bailey

       The missing time in Bob Bailey's life is indeed
    quite a mystery, and as Michael Gwynne said "we are
    eager to know (about it)". The question is, do we have
    the right to know? If Mr. Bailey's co-workers appear
    reluctant to say anything why not leave it at that? If
    the information isn't readily available then it was
    meant to be private and that need or desire for
    privacy should be respected. Bob Bailey did a superb
    job of what he was hired to do, entertain. Beyond that
    his life was "HIS" life. Are we eager to know more? Of
    course. Do we have a right to that missing time?
    Absolutely not. So why not take the hint and remember
    the man in his prime. Anything else is none of our
    business.
                      Just one mans opinon
                         Larry Albert

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:17:52 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1935 - NBC debuted G-men. The show was later renamed Gangbusters and
    stayed on the air until 1957.

    Today's birthday --

    1890 - Verna Felton d. Dec 14, 1966

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
    [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:08:12 -0400
    From: Jer51473@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Programs that began with the ringing of a
     phone

     Hal stone said that Archie at one time began with a phone ringing and i
    immediatly thought of another program, Dr. Christian, when rosemary decamp,
    as judy, would answer the ringing phone with " Dr. Christians office" . Were
    there others or have we explored this topic before? I seem to recall a couple
    of detective shows?

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    Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:08:37 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Atwater Kent/Betsy Ross

    In 1935 the organization that maintained the Betsy Ross house at 239 Arch
    Street in Philadelphia went out of business. The house’s fate teetered in the
    balance until 1937. That is when radio manufacturer Atwater Kent launched a
    fund-raising campaign to save the building in order to donate it to the city.
    Today the Betsy Ross house is maintained by the not for profit Historic
    Philadelphia.

    I thought that it was interesting to see a radio pioneer step into the breach
    when action was called for.
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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