Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #256
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Date: 8/24/2005 4:19 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 256
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Ernie Kovacs                      [ "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed]; ]
  More "Who's on First" [removed]      [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
  JACK TEAGARDEN                        [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
  1927 Radio Hymnal                     [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
  Brace Beemer                          [ "Phil Stallings" <redrydertexas@sbc ]
  Brace Beemer birth                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: Tributes to OTR                   [ Grams46@[removed] ]
  VINCENTE PELLETIER & BOOB AND ROY     [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  Old Radio Reel-to-reel Tapes For Sal  [ Riesse3@[removed] ]
  Re: Tributes to OTR                   [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
  Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar Commissio  [ "Archie YKnow" <y_know_archie@hotma ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  re: Fred Berney's request about BRAC  [ Joemartelle@[removed] ]
  8-24 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: research libraries                [ Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed]; ]
  Nomenclaturally Attributive           [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:37:35 -0400
From: "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Ernie Kovacs

I've come across dvds of the old ernie kovacs tv shows.
reat stuff. was he ever on the radio?

Yes, in Trenton, NJ, WTTM as I recall, sometime in the early 50s.  He was
the "local celebrity" when I was in high school, but not my favorite
performer.
Candy

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:39:01 -0400
From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  More "Who's on First" [removed]

Lee Munsick recounted an interesting story about how
Bud and Lou had, on at least one occasion, gotten
trapped in their "Who's on First" routine and had
trouble finding their way to the ending.

I have seen many copies of the original scripts from
the Abbott and Costello radio program during the time
they were sposored by Camel cigarettes. The program
which aired on June 8th, 1944 contained the "Who's on
First" routine and, to my surprise, when the script
reaches that part of the program, the routine's
dialogue is omitted. Apparently, they felt secure
enough in performing the routine that they preferred
doing it from memory rather than reading it from a
script. The script reads as follows:

=================================================
ABBOTT: Well, nowadays they give these ball players
very peculiar names. Let's see - We have Who's on
first, What's on Second, and I-Don't-Know's on third!

(INTO BASEBALL ROUTINE)

(NOTE FOR RICH AND CONTROL ROOM -- CUES FOR FINISH AS
FOLLOWS:)

COSTELLO: ......GETS UP AND IT'S A LONG FLY BALL TO
BECAUSE. WHY? I DON'T KNOW! HE'S ON THIRD AND I DON'T
GIVE A DARN!

ABBOTT: Oh, that's our short stop!

MUSIC:   PLAYOFF

(APPLAUSE)

NILES: Abbott and Costello will be back in just a
moment.

MUSIC:   YANK FANFARE
===========================================

The reference to "Rich" was referring to orchestra
director Freddie Rich.

Considering how many times they had performed that
particular routine by 1944, I guess it's not too
surprising that they would want to work from memory.
But I would think that due to the time constraints of
radio, needing to time each program down to the
second, that going off-script for such an extended
length of time would be asking for trouble.

I guess Bud and Lou just didn't give a darn,... oh,
HE'S OUR SHORT [removed]

-FIBBERMAC-

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:39:03 -0400
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  JACK TEAGARDEN
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George Aust posted:

They  even wrote much of "Basin Street Blues" together but "T"
never played in  Miller's band.

Glad someone Pointed that out.
    "T" had a club in Mobile Alabama that I used to  attend while I was on
the radio there at WKRG in 1964.
    Sadly, he had just died in January and I arrived in  October from WNAT,
in Natchez Mississippi so his presence was felt but not  seen!
    BUT, the real interesting thing is that George  missed the fact that
"Basin Street Blues," featured words and music written by  Spencer Williams
who as
some people might remember was a fine director in  the movies when there
weren't many black directors and was also Andy Brown in  the "Amos 'N Andy
Show,"
TV from 1950s.
    How 'bout that for a 'round about?'
                    Michael  C. Gwynne

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:38:55 -0400
From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  1927 Radio Hymnal

I just recently moved to Colorado to be closer to my
wife's family, and I found an unusual OTR artifact
sitting on my mother-in-law's piano. A rather tattered
hymnal that had once belonged to my wife's
grandmother. The title on the cover is "THE RADIO
HYMNAL" and the cover illustration shows a circular
shaped microphone and two radio antennas broadcasting
musical notes from the hymn "I Will Sing of My
Redeemer".
Inside the cover there is a title page which reads,

THE RADIO HYMNAL
For All Those Folks Who Love the Good Old Songs of
Praise and Peace
Compiled by
Radio Station KFNF
Henry Field Seed Co.
SHENANDOAH, IOWA
with the assistance of the RodeheaverCo., Chicago

PRICES
FULL CLOTH BOARD $[removed] per single copy, postpaid
80 cents each, not postpaid, in lots of 25 or more

HIGH GRADE MANILA $[removed] for 2 Copies, postpaid
40 cents each, not postpaid, in lots of 25 or more

Send all orders to
HENRY FIELD SEED CO.
SHENANDOAH, IOWA
February, 1927

Inside the title page is a preface which includes two
photographs. One is identified as Henry Field, Manager
and Announcer, KFNF. The second one is identified as
LuEtta Armstrong, Soloist, KFNF. The preface is
written by Mr. Fields and concludes with this
paragraph:
"We hope that hereafter, when you hear these good old
songs from KFNF, you will be able to turn to your own
song book and sing with us.

Yours for the Master,

HENRY FIELD

Shenandoah, Iowa, February, 1927"

The web page of Wartburg College in Waverly, IA
produced the following information about KFNF:

"KFNF, Shenandoah

In southwestern Iowa, another station with a
home-built transmitter was licensed to broadcast early
in 1924. It was commissioned by a man named Henry
Field and was located in the seed and nursery business
he operated in Shenandoah. Through appearances on
another pioneer midwestern station, WAOW in nearby
Omaha, Field had learned what a powerful communication
device radio was, and he built a radio station in
Shenandoah to market his nursery business.

Ironically, Field's competitor Earl May learned the
same lesson in exactly the same way on WAOW and May
put his own station, KMA, on the air the next year, in
1925.

Both men used their radio stations to promote their
competing mail-order seed company businesses. Both
were highly successful with their home-spun messages
which amounted to early versions of the infomercial.

In the beginning years, both Field and May operated
their radio stations primarily as extensions of their
primary businesses -- selling seed and nursery stock.
However, they also gained an early understanding of
the capacity of this new medium to entertain and
inform.

In addition to their own sales pitches, they developed
programming which attracted thousands of listeners and
drew many of them to Shenandoah to attend the live
broadcasts which originated from the Field and May
stations in southwestern Iowa."

I don't know how KFNF fared over the years, but a
google search just turned up a Henry Field's Seed and
Nursery web page with the motto "Henry Field's Seed
and Nursery has been providing you with the best
fruits, vegetables and flowers since 1892."

I suspect that $1 today at the Henry Field's Seed and
Nursery wouldn't even buy you the time of day.

-FIBBERMAC-

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:04:44 -0400
From: "Phil Stallings" <redrydertexas@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Brace Beemer

In answer to Fred Berney's question, Brace Beemer was born in Mt. Carmel, IL
on December 9, 1902 and passed away March 1, 1965 while playing bridge with
friends.  You will see 1903 listed as his birthdate in several places .....
this date is incorrect.  His birth certificate lists 1902.
Thanks for the interest in this great man .... Phil Stallings, Brace
Beemer/Lone Ranger Days committee, Mt. Carmel, IL

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:32:07 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Brace Beemer birth

I just got an email from someone who wants to know the birth/death
date of Brace Beamer. Can anyone here help?

Brace Beemer was born 12-9-1903 in Mount Carmel, IL and died on 3-1-1965

Ron Sayles

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:15:56 -0400
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Tributes to OTR

In a message dated 8/23/2005 2:36:35 [removed] Pacific Standard Time,
RadioAZ@[removed]:

what I am seeking is any other similar examples  of later media
recognizing radio through character names, shows, etc.

the andy griffith show had two characters that i remember  whose  first or
last names were used on lum and abner:  clara edwards and opie  taylor.
also, norris goff who played abner peabody was on tags at least  once.
peace from kathy
Support our troops - end the war
John 3:16

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:00:35 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  VINCENTE PELLETIER & BOOB AND ROY

Pelletier was on staff at NBC in the '40s.

Bob & Ray started in Boston.

[removed]

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:11:45 -0400
From: Riesse3@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Old Radio Reel-to-reel  Tapes For Sale
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I have 900 reel-to-reel tapes of old time radio programs for sale.  Each reel
sells for $[removed] plus postage.  (must buy entire  collection) There is about 6
hours of programs on each reel.  Contact Joe  .E-mail  address is
_Riesse3@[removed]_ (mailto:Riesse3@[removed])

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:29:37 -0400
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Tributes to OTR

[removed]@[removed] wrote:

So, what I am seeking is any other similar examples of later media
recognizing radio through character names, shows, etc.

Probably not exactly what you are looking for, but the obvious one that
first comes to my mind is Woody Allen's Radio Days. Yes, a tribute of
sorts to radio, but not truly the focus of the film.

Jim Widner

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:39:32 -0400
From: "Archie YKnow" <y_know_archie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar Commission??

My wife and I have been listening to the multi-part episodes of YTJD with
Bob Bailey on our deck these glorious summmer afternoons.

I think that I have the expense account side down very well (lucky Johnny!)
but I don't know about his commssion.

Does anyone know what type of stipend Johnny would get for working on these
cases?  After all, the insured policy ranged from $1500 to hundreds of
thousands.  Judging by the number of knocks on the head old Johnny received,
I assume that he got a hefty commission based on the insured value.

Can anyone help me here?

Archie

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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:12:01 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:53:41 -0400
From: Joemartelle@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Fred Berney's request about BRACE BEEMER
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Brace Beemer, in my opinion, radio's best Lone Ranger was the subject of a
feature story I had the pleasure of researching and writing  in  cooperation
with the Wrather Corporation, (one time copyright owners of the L/R
property)
in early 1971.

Brace Bell Beemer, with his resonant pipes, was born on Dec. 9th 1903  in
Mount Carmel, Illiniois. He was just 62, when he passed away of a heart
attack
on March 1st 1965, at his home in Oxford, Michigan. At the time of his
passing, Brace had playing bridge with friends.

Hope this helps

Joe Martelle

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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:53:48 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  8-24 births/deaths

August 24th births

08-24-1875 - Frank Craven - Boston, MA - d. 9-1-1945
actor: "Arthur Hopkins Presents"; "Cavalcade of America"
08-24-1884 - Earl Der Biggers - Warren, OH - d. 4-5-1933
author: Charlie Chan books
08-24-1896 - Cyril Armbrister - d. 9-18-1966
producer, director: "Chandu the Magician"; "Strange As It Seems"; "Terry and
the Pirates"
08-24-1896 - Phil Baker - Philadelphia, PA - d. 12-1-1963
comedian, emcee: "Honolulu Bound"; "Take It or Leave It"
08-24-1898 - Malcolm Cowley - Belsano, PA - d. 3-28-1989
speaker: "NBC University Theatre"
08-24-1900 - Jimmy Fidler - St. Louis, MO - d. 8-9-1988
commentator: "Jimmy Fidler"
08-24-1900 - Preston Foster - Ocean City, NJ - d. 7-14-1970
actor: "NBC University Theatre"
08-24-1900 - Ralph Kirbery - Patterson, NJ - d. 8-14-1993
singer: (The Dream Singer) "Mohawk Treasure Chest"; "Musical Moments Revue"
08-24-1903 - Claude Hopkins - Alexandria, VA - d. 2-18-1984
bandleader: "Jubilee"; "Let's Go Nightclubbing"
08-24-1905 - Don Douglas - Kinleyside, Scotland - d. 12-31-1945
actor: "Good News of 1939"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Did Justice Triumph?"
08-24-1912 - Durward Kirby - Covingnton, KY - d. 3-15-2000
announcer, emcee: "Club Matinee"; "Honeymoon in New York"
08-24-1913 - Howard Duff - Bremerton, WA - d. 7-8-1990
actor: Sam Spade "Advs. of Sam Spade"; Mike McCoy "McCoy"; Josh Chandler
"Dear John"
08-24-1919 - Dennis James - Jersey City, NJ - d. 6-3-1997
host, announcer: "Lawyer Q"; "Major Bows Original Amateur Hour"
08-24-1933 - Bobby Ellis - Chicago, IL - d. 11-23-1973
actor: Henry Aldrich "Aldrich Family"; Chester A. Riley, Jr. "Life of Riley"
08-24-1957 - Stephen Fry - London, England
actor: Guest Panelist "One Minute Please"

August 24th deaths

02-15-1916 - Mary Jane Croft - Muncie, IN - d. 8-24-1999
actress: Sandra Martin "Story of Sandra Martin"; Alice Henderson "Beulah"
02-17-1919 - Kathleen Freeman - Chicago, IL - d. 8-24-2001
actress: California Artists Radio Theatre"
06-27-1933 - Gary Crosby - Los Angeles, CA - d. 8-24-1995
singer: "Gary Crosby Show"; "Bing Crosby Show"
08-28-1900 - Rudy Schrager - Czernowitz, Austria-Hungary - d. 8-24-1983
musical director: "Box 13"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-02-1896 - Amanda Randolph - Louisville, KY - d. 8-24-1967
actress: Mama "Amos 'n' Andy"; Oriole "Beulah"
09-09-1924 - Jane Greer - Washington, [removed] - d. 8-24-2001
singer, actress: "Rudy Vallee Show"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-07-1912 - Louis Prima - New Orleans,LA - d. 8-24-1978
jazz trumpeter: "You Can't Have Everything"; "Songs by Sinatra"; "The Navy
Swings"
xx-xx-1902 - Leonard Lee - d. 8-24-1964
writer: "Sherlock Holmes"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:49:32 -0400
From: Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: research libraries

So I ask of ... the SPERDVAC crowd in the [removed] area: Is there a
"Billy Rose" equivalent in your neck-o'the-woods? Is there a great
place where  you SPERDVACkers can access file folders on all the
"West Coast actors" ?  --Derek Tague

Having used the Billy Rose collection at Lincoln Center on many
occasions, I feel there is really no [removed] equivalent. The Academy of
Motion Arts & Sciences does of course have a great number of actor
files, but mostly representing movie people and their celluloid
careers.

Jordan Young

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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:49:47 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Nomenclaturally Attributive
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radioAZ@[removed] wrote:

I know that Carroll O'Connor, when he accepted the role on TV's "All in the
Family" wanted his character to be named Archie because he was such a fan of
radio's Ed Gardner (Archie on "Duffy's Tavern".)

"Duffy's" is one of my all-time favourite radio programmes, and "All/Family"
has that honour, TV-wise.  But I never knew that Carroll O'Connor had a hand
in naming his character & that it harkened back to OTR. Since O'Connor dug
"Duffy's Tavern" so much, it's no wonder Archie Bumker ended up owning a
saloon.

The original poster further wrote:

So, what I am seeking is any other similar examples of later media
recognizing radio through character names, shows, etc.

The still-extant "Information Please" annual almanac grew out of the radio
show of the same name.

When Rodney Dangerfield died last year, it was much discussed here on the
Digest that the name was adopted from that of a minor character on "The Jack
Benny Show."

Senator Huey "Kingfish" Long reportedly got his nickname from "Amos 'n'
Andy's" George "Kingfish" Stevens.

There's an OTR re-creation group specialising in mysteries and detective shows
here in NYC that calls themselves "The Cranston/Spade Players."

Cartoonist Jim Scancarelli, reputedly a big OTR fan, recently worked  a
"Digby O'Dell Funeral Home" into his  syndicated "Gasoline Alley" strip.

Shovelling off,

Derek Tague

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