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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 20


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 RE: Remember WENN
	 Johnny Mercer
	 AMC schedule
	 reply to George
	 Proctor's Shadow Article
	 Lights Out Episode
	 Lone Ranger
	 WRW and Remember WENN
	 Remember WENN
	 The Lone Ranger
	 RealAudio
	 Data compression and loss
	 "When Radio Was" new listing
	 Re: 16" transcriptions for sale
	 Re: call letters
	 Re: Remember WENN
	 Remember WENN
	 The GE Superadio Matter
	 Re: Remember WENN
	 Please help locate
	

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Date: 15 Jan 1996 10:12:57 -0600
From: "Frank Thomas" <Frank_Thomas@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Remember WENN
Message-Id: <m0tbre1-001W3eC@[removed]>

I saw the first two shows Saturday and agree with the posters so far - it was
a lot of fun. Anybody else catch the name of the sound effects guy: Mr.
[removed] in foley [removed] in movie sound effects folks. Cute.

Frank Thomas
(still not Tom Corbett)
(still hoping to hear about other Benny Christmas shopping [removed])

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:22:47 -0800 (PST)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Johnny Mercer
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I believe that Johnny Mercer shows up on the Glen Miller
propaganda broadcasts that were beamed to Germany during 
WWII. They came to light last year and were issued on CD.
I may be thinking of another singer, but I think JM does
a ballad in German.

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:14:11 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: AMC schedule
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

For all you Remember WENN fans who don't subscribe to AMC's excellent monthly
guide, you've seen all the episodes for January. Both of them. If anyone asks,
I'll be glad to post the February schedule when my guide arrives.

As to the show itself. Yeah, it's nice to see a show set in a radio station,
in Pittsburgh, in the 30's. However, just about any episode you'd care to
listen to of, oh say, Jack Benny or Judy Canova would be funnier than WENN. So
I guess it depends on how you prefer your entertainment, the bood tube or the
radio tube.

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Date: 15 Jan 96 11:27:00 -0500
From: amo@[removed] (Arlene M Osborne +1 +1 508 960 6273)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: reply to George
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I sent mail to gcoppen@[removed] and it bounced back.
I understand George is looking for me.

Arlene Osborne amo@[removed]

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Date: 15 Jan 96 17:45:44 EST
From: Joel  Senter <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <otr@[removed]>
Cc: Read Burgan <RGB@[removed]>, "T. E. Bray" <septsev@[removed]>
Subject: Proctor's Shadow Article
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

The interest in Bob Proctor's "The Shadow" article is appreciated.  It is
a great summary and exposition of the whole matter.  I do need, however,
"snail mail" addresses from those folks interested.  I only have the
article in printed form and can't scan it into a file and with my level of
skill it would take me two weeks to re-type the article, so if interested
folks will e-mail me their "snail mail" addresses, I will be happy to send
copies out.  Thanks, Joel Senter

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 19:12:51 -0500
From: BanjoBud@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lights Out Episode
Message-ID: <960115191047_42816624@[removed]>

I remember listening to a Lights Out episode about 1947 or so in which only
one character was portrayed.  I don't remember the name of the actor, but he
played the role of a criminal names "Nails Malone" who was hiding out in a
small apartment. In the end he mistakes an annual police parade for a mass
attempt by the law to bring him to justice and commits suicide. Does anyone
have any information on this program?

Bud Black

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:07:51 -0800
From: MikeTimble@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger
Message-ID: <960115170749_22511049@[removed]>

I really enjoy the Lone Ranger, but I do agree, there are superior OTR
Westerns out there. My favorite is The Six Shooter with James Stewart. I also
think Gunsmoke is quiet excellent. However, just because I like these two
Westerns, doesn't mean I don't enjoy the Lone Ranger. It's like comparing
Filet' Mignon to hamburgers. Filet' Mignon is obviously a much higher quality
of meat. But, I still love eating a Burger King Whopper right off the
broiler. Yumm! 

Mike Timble

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:14:06 -0800
From: MikeTimble@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WRW and Remember WENN
Message-ID: <960115171400_22511801@[removed]>

Joe Mackey mentioned Carl Amari's Sunday WRW show on WMAQ. I hope you caught
this week's show which had a great interview with George Burns (a recent one)
and some great shows that featured George and Gracie. One of the best Sunday
show's I've heard.  My wife and I also miss Chuck Schaden nightly, but I am
sure glad (thankful) WRW is on WMAQ.

As far as Remember WENN goes, I was very impressed. I think it really
captures the spirit of the time and the medium. I am looking forward to
seeing the upcoming episodes.

Mike Timble
Chicago

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 20:10 EST
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Remember WENN
Message-Id: <m0tbzv0-000K7bC@[removed]>

>Now, my question to anyone who subscribes to AMC's monthly program
>guide/magazine. What's the schedule? I checked *next* Saturday at the same
>time and it wasn't listed. Is it weekly? Monthly? What can you tell us?
>

Don't have their magazine, but an article locally mentioned two a month for
a total of ten episodes.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 20:10 EST
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger
Message-Id: <m0tbzux-000K7YC@[removed]>

>In response to Platecap's (Bob B's) comments regarding the Lone Ranger vs.
>Gunsmoke.  LR was broadcast more than once a week, like most kids serials.
> The TV version was definitely produced with an eye toward the kids' market.
> It just wasn't as meticulously produced like Gunsmoke.  Besides, Gunsmoke
>had great actors, people who had reputations and credentials before Gunsmoke.
>

I would think all one would have to do is look at the sponsor and the fact
that premiums were offered. This certainly was not directed toward adults!
The earliest sponsor, I believe, was Silvercup Bread, but that was soon
replaced with General Mills. The premiums included a plastic belt and a
gun/flashlight.  Certainly not adult incentives.

No question that this was a kid's show.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 20:10 EST
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RealAudio
Message-Id: <m0tbzuy-000K7IC@[removed]>

>But my experience to date indicates that RA format is not very complimentary
>to OTR.  And non-technically speaking, it seems to amplify all the negatives
>of those old wheezing, popping, low fidelity OTR sounds that we know and
>love.  
>

Chuck Anderson's comments could not go unanswered. Chuck, I too agree that
the RA sound quality is definitely a problem. I have moved a portion of my
sound files on my web pages (Radio Days - [removed] ) over to
realaudio despite the poorer quality. Some of these sounds began as very
good quality digitized wav files. I have tried other compression schemes
with better results such as Johnson-Grace's PicTalk which is currently only
available via the AOL browser (plus one or two other lesser browsers). For
this reason, I haven't gone over to this particular one, though they have a
much better concept - as graphic files download, the audio plays.  Until it
is available for such as Netscape, I have decided to hold off.

I still moved to realaudio for this reason:  the sound files that I believe
people download from my pages are not for collecting purposes, but for
either finding out what the programs are like or nostalgia listening.
RealAudio affords me the opportunity to present longer clips at less
overhead ( a real problem if one is running a web page for free!)
Compression is definitely the way to go to allow more at perhaps a lesser
quality.  Secondly, feedback I have received indicates that there are a lot
of mac users out there who don't use the wav format and ra is universal.

I think I am best oriented toward the Johnson-Grace version eventually as it
does not require an expensive server to process the file as does RealAudio.
Not sure what the JG versions will eventually cost (I am beta testing it),
but if it turns out to be very expensive, I will have to defer unless I turn
my pages into profit centers - something I cannot see!

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:07:43 -0600 (CST)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Data compression and loss
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I'm not familiar with real audio, per se, but I do know that some of
the new compression methods do lose some data.  Sometimes a lot of
data.  They try to store all the essential data and, in fact, they're
not too bad at that.  But problems can develop if the sound is already
marginal, and even worse, if it's decompressed and then recompressed,
losing even more data.

A video example of this is the .jpg files.

Not all compression is lossy.  Most compression methods retain 100%
of the original data.  It sounds like real audio doesn't.

Barry

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:57:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: "When Radio Was" new listing
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hi [removed]

   To those of you keeping track of the various radio stations across the
country carrying "When Radio Was", I just recently found a station in my
area (central Ohio) that is now carrying the [removed] WLOH, 1320 kHz (AM)
carries "When Radio Was" weekdays from 4 to 5 pm.  This the the first time
this programme is being heard in the central Ohio market (which is weird
since Columbus is the largest city in Ohio), and hopefully the show will
catch on and continued to be aired.  This station is located in Lancaster,
Ohio, a semi-suburb of Columbus, and while not real powerful, it comes in
just loud enough here in Columbus to be a clear "local quality" station.

   This is the first time I personally have heard "When Radio Was". I
found it interesting, but I was disappointed the old commerials were cut
out, but only to be replaced with new commerials (too many) from the
sponcer/creator Radio Spirits.  However, I must take my hat off to Radio
Spirits and Carl Amari.  His show and company have created a new found
awareness in old time radio to the general population, and you certainly
can't fault him for that!

--------------------------------------------------
|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:38:37 -0600 (CST)
From: Charlie D Matkin <cdm01@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: 16" transcriptions for sale
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I [removed] please forward again:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:43:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Charlie D Matkin <cdm01@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: [removed] Digest V96 #18

I am not in the market for 16" discs, but they sound like they are great. 
Coincidentally, I just a couple of days ago asked another forum group if 
there is anyone with a working turntable who might dub some discs we 
have. At the same time, we would love to have a  16 " tt donated to us 
for our proposed radio museum in New Orleans. Anybody there?
    Charlie Matkin  New Orleans Radio Theatre, Inc. [removed] Box 24184 
    New Orleans, LA 70184-4184
    phone/fax: (504) 282-6404

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:46:59 -0600 (CST)
From: Charlie D Matkin <cdm01@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: call letters
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Call letters of WDSU in New Orleans refer to location of studios at that 
time and owners last name: De Soto Hotel & Joe Uhalt. Station has had two 
changes since I worked there in the early 1960's. WGSO and now WODT. 
Charlie Matkin  New Orleans Radio Theatre, Inc.

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 21:04:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Charlie D Matkin <cdm01@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Remember WENN
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I fully agree with the rave comments about show  # 1, however the second 
show was too reminiscent of a movie which came out a year or more ago 
involving a murder while a network radio show was in progress. The humor 
was juvenile and the second premise (the script was being written while 
the show was on the air) was asinine. Am I wrong, or weren't shows, even 
in the earliest days, written at least days in advance and rehearsed? How 
would a sound man, for instance, know what sounds were needed? And the 
business about using a turntable with two arms, one for recording and 
another for playing back a few seconds [removed] was that ever actually 
attempted? My first contact with delaying (for purposes of cutting off 
nuts and foul mouths) was with loops of tapes and repositioning the 
playback, erase and record heads. Was anyone else as disappointed with 
show number two as I was?

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 19:45:55 -0800
From: AndyBlatt@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Remember WENN
Message-ID: <960115194547_22523834@[removed]>

Looks like Remember WENN is on AMC this Wednesday (This week) --- January 17,
1996.

Andy Blatt

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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 01:49:30 -0500
From: KFPR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: THEKRUMM@[removed], Ritterspa@[removed]
Subject: The GE Superadio Matter
Message-ID: <960116004710_62354017@[removed]>

     Some recent postings expressed concern about the earphone operation and
the overall appearance of the GE Superadio III.  If you are willing to spend
more bucks, here is an alternative.  Radio Shack's DX-392.  It is half the
size of a Superadio and offers many more features.  

     The DX-392 is a long range AM, FM (+stereo) & Shortwave radio, plus a
cassette player/recorder with timer.  It has adjustable digital tuning,
lock-on features, a 45 freq storage memory, and an auto/manual scan
capability.  Also, narrow/wide AM selectivity, antenna/headphone jacks,
clocks, alarms, [removed]

     The recorder is a standard cassette (no reverse or counter) with full
controls, including a cueing feature, and full auto stop.  A standby record
capability allows you to record a selected radio station at any given time.
 For example, I will catch an hour of OTR on KNX (out of Los Angeles) at 2:AM
using a C-120 cassette [removed] then listen to it the following day.

     Overall, I understand that the Superadio does a good job; however, if
you are still shopping, you might want to take a look at the DX-392.  This
baby's not cheap, but now is the time to make your move if you're going to
have one.  It normally sells for [removed], but is on sale during the month of
January for [removed]  Saving 50 big ones is what pushed me over the edge.

     By the way, I don't work for Radio Shack or any other Tandy activity nor
do I hold any stock in the same.  I am an "insurance investigator" who just
wants to make sure my OTR friends get the word!

     Expense account total:  [removed], [removed] for an AC adapter, [removed] for three
AA/four D batteries and some [removed]     Yours Truly, Juanito Peso

(Fritz Ritterspach -- San Diego)    KFPR@[removed]

 

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:08:42 -0500
From: JanBach@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Remember WENN
Message-ID: <960115140840_61913923@[removed]>

In a message dated 96-01-15 11:11:53 EST, Alan Bell asked:

<< Now, my question to anyone who subscribes to AMC's monthly program
guide/magazine. What's the schedule? I checked *next* Saturday at the same
time and it wasn't listed. Is it weekly? Monthly? What can you tell us?

According to my Chicago Tribune TV Week, WENN is rebroadcast this coming
Wednesday evening, at 7 [removed] and again at 12:30 [removed] Central Standard Time. I
read in last week's issue of TV Week that AMC hopes to put out one to two new
episodes per month.

Jan Bach

 >>

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 08:34:22 -0800
From: rrking@[removed] (richard king )
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Please help locate
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Mr. Merwin Smith long time Denver Broadcaster is trying to locate 
anyone who was on the far east network of AFRS 1951-1952.  Mr Smith is 
a friend of OTR and I hope we can help him out.  Please send replies to
rrking@[removed]

Thank You

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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 01:08:52 -0500
From: marty@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Message-Id: <v01510100ad20f11370ea@[[removed]]>

subscribe OTR digest Mark DiIorio

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