Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #132
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 4/28/2005 4:19 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 132
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  tales of the texas r.                 [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Re: OTR Ringtones                     [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
  "Tales Of the Texas Rangers"          [ OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin) ]
  4-27 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Inner Sanctum Movie isn't             [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Sortilege Soap on the air?            [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]
  Tales of Texas Rangers/Dragnet        [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:32:07 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  tales of the texas r.

The television version of this series was quite a bit different.  I am
certainly not being critical, but radio's  "Tales of the Texas Rangers" is
certainly not "Gene Autry's Melody Ranch."

You said it.  A whole family was shot to death by some guy they stopped to
help along the road.  Scared the heck out of me.  Lots of laughs.

On the other hand, they did take some time to explain things, and there was
one line I rather liked.  The Texas Rangers sometimes rode horses, and of
course they drove their patrol cars.  The relationship didn't occur to me
until our heroes had to chase some miscreant down the road in their cruiser.
  They were losing him because he was faster.  Explanation: "Yeah, that
horse trailer on the back really slows us down."

Oh.

M Kinsler

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:32:35 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:23:59 -0400
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: OTR Ringtones
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Okay, we might not like the source, but you know you want [removed]

While having your cell phone ring to the opening of The Shadow or what not
might be kind of cute, this represents in my mind everything that is wrong
with MediaBay right now. They can't market their shows correctly, so why not
try ringtones?

They've totally lost focus.

Jim Widner

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:54:14 -0400
From: OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Tales Of the Texas Rangers"

I do not remember hearing "[removed]" when it was originally broadcast,
but it was one of the OTR programs that KNX (CBS affiliate in Los
Angeles) broadcast as part of what they called the "Drama Hour".
Unfortunately, the Drama Hour was eventually dropped, replaced by just
another hour-long recap of the day's news, at 9:00 [removed] (Very little
difference, if any, from what was heard at 8:00 [removed]).

I never compared "Tales Of the Texas Rangers" to any other show, but I
will now, coming to its defense.  I loved to listen to it because of all
the great radio performers on it.  Even though Joel McCrea was primarily
a movie star, he crossed over beautifully as a screen actor who was also
very good in radio.  There were not that many of them. But I have a
very special reason for never having missed one episode:  Unlike other
crime-fighting  shows, where the listener does not get all the clues put
together and solved by the brilliant sleuth until the last two minutes
of the show, Jase Pearson takes each clue and shares it with the
audience, step by step. Each clue is a build-up to the apprehension of
the criminal.  "This Is Your FBI" and "Dragnet" were also somewhat like
that.  I consider that as brilliant detective writing, as opposed to
some of the hurriedly thrown-together detective mysteries that came out
of WOR-Mutual, New York. In my opinion, NY actors were just as good as
West Coast ones, but writing did not measure up to that of the West
Coast.

Stuart Lubin

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:54:24 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  4-27 births/deaths

April 27th births

04-27-1896 - Rogers Hornsby - Winters, TX - d. 1-5-1963
hall of fame baseball player: "Play Ball"; "Tops in Sports"
04-27-1898 - Ludwig Behelmans - Meran, Austria-Hungary - d. 10-1-1962
author, panelist: "Author, Author"
04-27-1902 - Harry Stockwell - Kansas City, MO - d. 7-19-1984
singer: "Broadway Matinee"
04-27-1902 - Ned Wever - NYC - d. 5-6-1984
actor: Dick Tracy "Dick Tracy"; Anthony Loring "Young Widder Brown"
04-27-1907 - Matty Matlock - Paducah, KY - d. 6-14-1978
jazz musician: (Member of the Big 7 Band) "Pete Kelly's Blues"
04-27-1933 - Casey Kasem - Detroit, MI
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
04-27-1937 - Sandy Dennis - Hastings, NE - d. 3-1-1992
actress: "CBS Mystery Theatre"

April 27th deaths

02-15-1896 - Arthur Shields - d. 4-27-1970
actor: (Brother of Barry Fitzgerald) "Cavalcade of America"
04-07-1915 - Stanley Adams - NYC - d. 4-27-1977
writer: "My Friend Irma"
04-25-1908 - Edward R. Murrow - Pole Cat Creek, NC - d. 4-27-1965
newscaster: (This is London) "Edward R. Murrow with the News"
06-28-1908 - Alan Bunce - Westfield, NJ - d. 4-27-1965
actor: Albert Arbuckle "Ethel and Albert"; Jerry Malone "Young Dr. Malone"
08-21-1908 - Tom Tully - Durango, CO - d. 4-27-1982
actor: Charles Martin "Stella Dallas"
11-07-1922 - Al Hirt - New Orleans, LA - d. 4-27-1999
dixieland trumpeter: "Voices of Vista"; "The Navy Swings"; "Here's to Veterans"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:18:40 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Inner Sanctum Movie isn't

Mike Kerezman commented:

I recently rented a copy of a film called INNER SANCTUM (1948) recently
released on DVD. It was
advertised as a movie based on the famous old time radio show. My younger
brother who is quite a fan of the Inner Sanctum radio series was extremely
disappointed with this mediocre film. I had to wonder if Inner Sanctum the
radio show "got away" with more than was possible to do on screen in terms
of horror at the time?

The film was NEVER based on the radio series.  In fact, it had no
involvement with the radio program other than the same of the movie being
the same - which the producers, Sam Theiner and Walter Shenson, wanted to
cash in on the success of the radio program.

Himan Brown, who produced and directed the radio series, owned the copyright
to the sound of the creaking door and back in late 1942, he was approached
by someone from Universal Studios of purchasing the screen rights.
Universal wanted to release a series of B-grade, low-budget mystery movies
with horror elements and use their contract player Lon Chaney, Jr. as the
star.  Reportedly, Himan Brown offered to sell the screen rights for WAY
more than Universal could allow, so the movie studio did the next best
thing.  They went to Simon & Schuster, publishers of the Inner Sanctum
Mystery novels, and got permission from S&S to use the "Inner Sanctum" name
for their movies.

Himan Brown had worked out a deal with Simon & Schuster - he could use the
name as long as he allowed a sales pitch at the end of the broadcast
revealing the present month's "Inner Sanctum mystery novel."  Brown owned no
rights (trademark or copyright) to the radio series other than the copyright
of the sound of the creaking door (which he reused for the opening of CBS
Radio Mystery Theater decades later in the 1970s, 1980s and revival series
of the late 1990s).

Universal Studios released from 1943 to 1945, six low-budget murder
mysteries under the "Inner Sanctum" name.  In the opening credits, they
acknowledged Simon & Schuster publishers, and instead of a creaking door,
they had a floating head in a jar open each movie.  Anyone who has had
access to copies of the Studio Press Books for those six movies have
probably noticed that it states clearly to all theater managers NOT to make
any advertisements related to the movies with the radio series.  Universal
worked their way around not having to purchase the screen rights from Himan
Brown and CBS (and the sponsor of the radio series, Carter's Little Liver
Pills) by going through Simon & Schuster.

In fact, when Universal released the six Inner Sanctum movies to home video
in 1992 commercially, the bottom of the back of each video clearly stated
copyright and trademark permissions through Simon & Schuster and made no
reference to the radio series.  (Though only one movie poster from 1943 did
feature a radio microphone in the background and I'm surprised Universal's
library featured no legal paperwork about this possibly causing a bit of a
problem).

In 1948, Rheiner and Shenson did the same thing.  They paid Simon & Schuster
permission to use the "Inner Sanctum" name, released it through Film
Classics, Inc., through their MRS Pictures, Inc. production company, and
made a lot of money on the low-budget murder mystery that bore very little
resemblance to the radio series.  This is why the movie isn't like the radio
series, both entities were produced by different productions.  In fact, like
the Universal films, very little is mentioned that the 1948 INNER SANCTUM
movie was based on the radio program - though it is commonly assumed that it
is.  You can let your brother know the movie really has no connection with
the radio series other than the name.

([removed]  Don't bother with the 1991 direct-to-video soft-core porn film
entitled "Inner Sanctum," that too bears no relation to the radio program.
In fact, the only movie ever made that was based on the radio series was
"Seduction: 3 Tales From the Inner Sanctum" broadcast in 1992.  And that
film is a whole 'nother story in itself.)

Martin Grams, Jr.
Info source from "Inner Sanctum Mysteries: Behind the Creaking Door"
(published 2002, official release with permission from Simon & Schuster,
Inc.).

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:43:18 -0400
From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sortilege Soap on the air?

One way to keep the programming clean, I guess!

To Conrad Binyon - thanks for the plug, and to James Burns the run-down.

But there was no Rose Sortilege "bust" - it was The Billingsley himself, plus
Messrs Godfrey and Downey.

And I don't have to go to a museum to see them; I have a set.  What I'm now
seeking is additional information and - if at all possible - the original
molds.  If anyone has ideas about firms which did such work, or what trade
periodicals are read in the soap industry I'll appreciate it!

Lee "Soapy" Munsick, not to be confused with G. Mennen "Soapy" Williams!

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:46:05 -0400
From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tales of Texas Rangers/Dragnet

He always liked to refer to Tales of Texas Rangers as Dragnet with a western
flavor.  Mike Kerezman   Macomb, Ok

No no, Mike - that's "Gunsmoke"!

Bestus, Lee Munsick

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