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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 397

Table Of Contents: 

	 Re:Comedy Shows, Where To Begin
	 War of the Worlds
	 Gleasons Music
	 Star Wars
	 Re: Fibber 15 minute shows
	 Tudor Owen, et. al.
	 Re: War of the Worlds
	 L-R info on otr tapes
	 Green Valley Line log
	 FOTR Convention
	 A better way to store OTR on disk (wasRe: Video [removed])
	 Download
	 War Of The Worlds 50th Anniversary Production
	 Shoelaces Episode

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:29:42 +0000
From: "F. Charles Simar" <FCharlesSimar@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Comedy Shows, Where To Begin
Message-ID: <[removed]@DEFAULT>
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Although Jack Benny, Burns & Allen, Fibber McGee, and Our Miss Brooks are
great places to begin, one album which I have recently purchased and enjoyed
thorougly is The Mel Blanc Show.  Fun-nee!!!  Also, other shows that I would
recommend would be: A Day In The Life Of Dennis Day, Adventures Of Archie
Andrews, Blondie,
and The Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show.  They are very well done comedic shows.
Dennis Day & Harris-Faye shows
have newly released albums available from Adventures In Cassettes.  Mel
Blanc is available from AIC and
Radio Spirits.  Episodes of Archie Andrews and Blondie are available from RS
and Radio Yesteryear, although
I hope that albums are in the works.  8'>

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:02:04 -0700
From: John Cunningham <johnc@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: War of the Worlds
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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After reading Tom Barnett's posting, I guess I stand corrected about
a George Lucas-produced WOW.  It sure sounds interesting!

Could it be that Lucas produced the same one that Ossman directed OR
have there been more than one anniversary recreation/update?

Happy Listening!
John

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:17:54 -0500
From: Sammy <rharris@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Gleasons Music
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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I don't believe I ever mentioned Gleason being a musucian. I am a
professional musician and know he is far from being that. I can't picture
him writing a score for a 70 piece orchestra. There are a few cuts on his
albums that he claims to have [removed] it really doesn't matter.  Point is
his albums (OR THE ONES WITH HIS NAME ON THEM) are some of the greatest mood
music albums ever put out.  This is the reason I have collected them.  This
is really getting off the subject of old time radio anyway.  I didn't know
however that Music til Dawn was a nation wide show.  American Airlines is
based here in Dallas and thought it was just broadcast [removed] on me!!!

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:19:10 -0500
From: Sammy <rharris@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Star Wars
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Does anyone have any of the NPR broadcasts of Star Wars and Empire Strikes
Back in stereo.  Have about 8000 titles to trade and more than that on video.  
Jack

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:29:24 +0100 (BST)
From: hbj@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Fibber 15 minute shows
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Been some comments about the weak presentation of the 15minute episodes,
but I remember a long-running sequence, now all you experts out there,
was this during the 15 minute series? when Fibber comes up with a
formula for glue, purpose of which to glue battle ships together,
rather than rivvitting them.
This ran for weeks I remember.
Also, there was the new ketchup dispenser which he marketed to the
Kitcha-can Ketchup Canning Kitchen.
I think I have that right. Those had me spell bound back then.
Regards


--
Henry Brugsch
Editor of [removed]
hbj@[removed]
[removed]



Net-Tamer V [removed]; Beta - Registered

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:00:46 -0700
From: dean allchin <dallchin@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Tudor Owen, et. al.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Good afternoon everyone

Could someone help me with the following?

Is Tudor Owen (of Pat Novak fame) the same actor who plays the logic in
X-1's "A Logic Named Joe"?

What is the name of the actor who plays the spiderboy in the Shadow's "The
Spider Boy" and is he the same actor who plays the main role in Murder at
Midnight's "The Dead come back" and the role of the father who is looking to
by a logic in "A Logic Named Joe"? I've heard his unique voice on many programs.

Was Mason Adams, who played the role of the senior corrupt FBI agent in the
1980's movie "F/X" a big radio star? He played the lead in an episode of, I
think, the Mysterious Traveller called "Between Two Worlds."

Thanking all the experts
Dean Allchin 

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:56:27 -0400
From: "Eric N. Wilson" <ewilson@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: War of the Worlds
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:31:27 -0700
>From: John Cunningham <johnc@[removed]>
>
>>I am still hoping someone will answer the question of how to get ahold
>>of the George Lucas re-staging of "War of the Worlds."
>
>If Mr. Lucas made a new version of "War of the Worlds" I'm certainly not 
>aware of it (if he did, somebody please give us details!!).

   I think we're all talking about the same [removed] David Ossman
production had sections recorded on location at Lucas' Skywalker Ranch.  It
was even on Entertainment Tonight, which is more coverage than most public
radio shows get (apart from Prarie Home Companion).

>(I understand there's also a musical version of WOW available!?)

  I remember that one. It was a pseudo-rock [removed] a week to wash
that taste out of my mouth. :)

   Eric W. 

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 17:43:00 -0700
From: <nflagg@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: L-R info on otr tapes
Message-Id: <[removed]@defiant>
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Subject: L-R Information on OTR Tape
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>ure of copying mono 
signals across both channels =
John Hale asked about recording from single channel reel to reel to VCR 
to cassette 
 
I do essentially the same thing, copying mono otr from my receiver to 
VCR. I'd forget the Y-adaptor. Try plugging in both left and right ([removed]: 
both channels out, even though it's mono) RCA's from open reel to 
receiver/VCR, then do same from VCR to cassette deck - I assume you're 
doing this via a receiver. Works for me.

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:02:06 PST
From: passage@[removed] (Frank M Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Green Valley Line log
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

              T H E   G R E E N   V A L L E Y   L I N E
              -----   ---------   -----------   -------

                              1930's


First Show: ??-??-??                             Last Show: ??-??-??
Number Shows: 26                                 Audition Show: none


Show Description:

THE GREEN VALLEY LINE was a syndicated series that aired during the 
1930's,  It was part romance, part adventure and dealt with a small
rail line and an attempted takeover.  The series consisted of 26 
episodes each approximately 10 to 15 minutes long.  


List Comments:

These shows were untitled.  The Radio Showcase catalog listed short
titles.  The RHAC catalog listed short descriptions.  The remainder
just listed episode numbers.  Considering that all vendors listed 
below have the full series, there isn't a real need for titles. For
this log, I've decided to use the Radio Showcase title.


List:

           Num  Title                       Src Key
           ---  --------------------------  ---------
             1  Spider And The Stranger     123456
             2  Pop's New Assistant         123456
             3  The Mail Contract           123456
             4  The Ol' 1010 Rolls Again    123456
             5  The Dinner Party            123456
             6  Race For The Mail           123456
             7  Treachery On The Rails      123456
             8  Victory                     123456
             9  Victory Celebration         123456
            10  Tragedy Strikes             123456
            11  Family Matters              123456
            12  Foul Play                   123456
            13  Spider's Story              123456
            14  A New Hope                  123456
            15  Shareholder's Showdown      123456
            16  A Short Vacation To Danger  123456
            17  Escape                      123456
            18  Trouble In Town             123456
            19  Cupid Strikes               123456
            20  A New Deal                  123456
            21  Coded Message               123456
            22  Surprise Visit              123456
            23  The Fortuna Mine            123456
            24  Love Lost                   123456
            25  Love Found                  123456
            26  A New Beginning             123456


Information Sources:

The information above was obtained from the following OTR vendor
and club catalogs.  Contact them directly for more information.

Key Source
--- -----------------------------------------------------------------
 1  Radio Showcase, Steve Kelez, PO Box 4357, Santa Rosa, CA 95402
 2  Edward J. Carr, 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19512
 3  Radio Historical Association of Colorado, PO Box 1908, Englewood,
    CO 80150
 4  Society to Preserve & Encourage Radio Drama, Variety & Comedy,
    PO Box 7177, Van Nuys, CA 91409-7177
 5  North American Radio Archives, 134 Vincewood Dr., Nicolasville, 
    KY 40356
 6  Great American Radio, Gary Kramer, PO Box 504 Genesee, MI 48437

To be fair to all, this is not an endorsement of the above vendors
and clubs.  I receive nothing by mentioning them.  They help keep 
OTR alive.  Please support them.


Last Update: 10-18-96


I retain copyright, but this log may be freely copied provided that 
the text is unchanged.  Please send error corrections or additional 
information to:   Frank Passage, 109 Elmwood Road, Verona, NJ 07044 
or via e-mail to passage@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 96 01:07:04 UT
From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: FOTR Convention
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I'm not sure if anyone's been e-mailing about the FOTR Con. SO, here are some 
of my immpressions.
Thursday AM - As I set up my little @ symbol display at the literature table, 
Jay hickerson rushed over to be the first "stickered." By the end of the day ( 
I left about 2:15) I counted 19 stickers gone. (I think thursdays are the 
lightest attendance days) U fortunately, I had little time to attend any of 
the panels or seminars.( I was looking forward to Bob Burnham's "Starting and 
Maintaining OTR Collection, but was not able to [removed])        :(
As usual, I was able to find what I considered a MAJOR find. Approximately 140 
almost consecutive episodes of Terry and the Pirates from '41 and '42. ( This 
boy's in seventh heaven! Thank you Ted Davenport!)

Friday - Walked in to find that someone had walked off with two sheets of my @ 
stickers ( what in the world is someone gonna' do with 180 @ stickers?), but 
there should still be enough to go [removed]
I managed to attend three shows today:
Canadian Radio and The CBC - One of the presenters was our own Sam Levene. 
They talked about Canadian radio through the years and played many clips of 
shows I some day hope to hear. The presentation was well done and ended way 
too soon. Hope to hear more next year.
Gotham Radio Players Present Dick Tracy "Case Of The Blackmailing Swami" and a 
visit with The Bickersons. An ametuer troop of radio actors that never the 
less did a wonderful job. OH, and it was directed by Max Shmid.
Science Fiction On Radio - hosted by (digest members) Jim Widner and Anthony 
Tollin along with Gordon Payton (the Sci-fi Guy) and special guest George 
Lefferts. Panel members concentrated on Dimension X and X Minus One in 
defference to their special guest, but also manged to work in more modern 
adaptations from radio before turning things over to the floor for questions. 
The general conscensus was that this disscussion could have gone on for much 
longer than the (sadly) scheduled one hour. 
Afterwards I was welcomed into a disscussion with Jim W. and Nick (sorry, I 
forgot you last [removed]) concerning the topics we'd like to see expounded upon 
in the digests (more at another time).
Hope this helps those not able to attend.
Sorry I went on so long.

Bruce

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:45:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: wdp (AIRWAVES MEDIA)
To: otr@[removed] (Old Time Radio)
Subject: A better way to store OTR on disk (wasRe: Video [removed])
Message-Id: <m0vEQU4-000k8rC@[removed]>
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} Dave Clemans <dave_clemans@[removed]> offerd this advice.
} 
} >  my question is, why even consider anything but audio cassettes for an
} > OTR collection?
} 
} I found that for me, digitizing them to .wav files (mono, 8000 samples per sec)
} produced "good enough" quality.  If the files were then compressed using
} gzip, I could store 30-50 hours on a single CD-ROM.  So that's where the
} bulk of my collection is going.  I now have over a thousand hours digitized.

A *MUCH* better solution for audio compression is the new RealAudio
[removed] compression.  RealAudio [removed] can achieve 16 to 1 compression (FAR
better than a wav file using gzip) and without any appreciable loss of
quality.  

If you are saying "Ferrrgetit, Realaudio sounds like crap", think
again.  Even RealAudio [removed] using the [removed] baud compression sounds
quite good when you start with a decent source.  RA [removed], however,
sounds GREAT and I chopped a 335K wave file (a WABC Jingle) down to
35K.  It plays in real time and sounds fine. (much better than the
source of most OTR I have heard).  You can store them on your Hard
Drive just like wave files.  You can even use one of those removable
hard drives (like a ZIP drive) to store these files off of your
machine or to catagorize them.

Go to [removed] and follow the menus.

In any event, ferget gzipping wave files.  It doesn't save much and it
is very inconvenient.  

William Pfeiffer
Administrator: OTR Digest

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:59:36 -0400
From: RadioClass@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Download
Message-ID: <961018215936_1246580244@[removed]>

Hi All

Help!  Digest 395 had to be downloaded.  I did, but now I can not read it.  I
usually save the digests to a Radio Digest file and open them without any
problems in Microsoft Word.  However, I can not open this downloaded digest.
 Months ago many of the digests had to be downloaded and I was able to open
and read them.  I think I opened them in MS Works.  Now, I can not open them
in readable form in MS Works  or in MS Word.  Please, somebody, HELP!  

Second Subject
Dave Clemmons was talking about storage.  I posted this once before, but here
goes again.  I store my tapes in "towers".  These towers are 6' high, 12"
wide and 12" deep.  I put the tapes in plastic cassette storage boxes that
hold 15 tapes per box (in individual plastic cases).  The towers hold 36 of
these boxes for a total of 540 tapes per tower.  I have my collection of
1900+ tapes in four of these towers and the tapes are easy to get to.  Which
is great because I listen to them all the time!  And, they do not take up a
lot of room.

Happy Listening

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 21:20:08 -0400
From: fish <fish@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: War Of The Worlds 50th Anniversary Production
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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To clear up some minor confusion, the 1988 production of War Of The Worlds was indeed adapted and directed by David Ossman, and produced by his wife, Judith Walcutt.
	It was done at George Lucas' Skywalker Ranch facility, and there's the Lucas connection.  I don't know if George was directly involved, but the engineer on the project was Randy Thom, who collected an Oscar for his work on the Star Wars films.  
	This was, I think, the first all-digital radio theatre production,. done on Sony DASH digital reel-to-reel.  It was also very largely done "on location," with crowds recorded outside and such.  However, this was not the single-mike-as-movie-camera technique, but a multiple mono-mike setup.  
	Other stars included NPR's Scott Simon (as Carl Phillips, the reporter who gets fricasseed at Grover's Mill), Terry Gross, and even Douglas Edwards, in what was probably his last major turn before the microphone.  
	It's quite a production, licensed by the late Howard Koch, who was very kind and supportive to the whole effort, according to Judith.  We're very honored to be the source for this show.
	This list is not a place for huckstering, but since there was a direct question, I'll confirm that our order number is 1-800-411-MIND, and our website is [removed]  We're remaking the website to permit ordering directly by point-and-click.
	I'd like to add that I'm a collector myself, and a longtime fan of this list (THANKS BILL!), but we try hard to give the creators of programs a bigger cut of any money we take in than they get anywhere else.  That applies to Norman Corwin, David Ossman and the Firesign Theatre guys, and a raft of others.  When you can afford to purchase the shows, they surely do appreciate it!
	Thanks for the query, and happy collecting!

Richard Fish

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:56:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Bruce Toews <toews@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Shoelaces Episode
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

I just got my Jack Benny Christmas Set in the mail. My review of the lost 
episode tomorrow.

Bruce




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