Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #244
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 6/22/2003 12:05 AM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 244
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Car radios                            [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Cathy Lewis Info                      [ "Mark L" <resimark@[removed]; ]
      Correction                            [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      EDGAR BERGEN                          [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Potato Chips                          [ tallpaulk@[removed] ]
      L FOR LANKY                           [ "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed] ]
      "Electrical" Transcriptions           [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
      It's a Joke, Son                      [ "Arte" <arte@[removed]; ]
      calling all cars 16in transcription   [ "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
      June 22nd birthdays                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      radio transcriptions                  [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
      re: Natalie Masters & Candy Matson    [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed] ]
      inside/outside                        [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Re: Inside Out/Outside In             [ "Alan R. Betz" <arbetz@[removed]; ]
      Hey there, Kemosabe                   [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
      Car Radios:                           [ "James G. DuPuy" <dupuy@[removed] ]
      Amos n Andy                           [ Zharold138@[removed] ]
      Under The Dash Radios                 [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
      Natalie Masters                       [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Tennessee or Texas                    [ "Ryan Hall" <uncle_festor@[removed] ]
      Olde Tyme Radio Network Schedule for  [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:32:34 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Car radios
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    John Mac wrote:

>     I've got a question for the folks of the Digest who are old
>     enough to have heard the original broadcasts.  Were car
>     radios common?  I know some cars had radios in the 30's and
>     40's, did most or were they only in luxury cars?

    You've probably heard of a company called Motorola.  Their first product in
    the 1920s was a "battery eliminator" that allowed people to convert their home
    battery radios to standard AC power.  But the company changed their name to
    Motorola in 1930 when they started marketing car radios, which (according to
    Motorola's Web page) could be installed in most popular automobiles.  For a
    little more information:

    [removed]

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:32:55 -0400
    From: "Mark L" <resimark@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cathy Lewis Info

       Hello All,

       I'm a recent subscriber to the list, and I'm the head producer and host
    of the WRVO Playhouse show. We broadcast classic radio 7 nights a week for 4
    hours. I'm really enjoying my daily reads and learning all the while. I was
    wondering if anyone could provide me some information about Cathy Lewis,
    wife of Elliot. Anything would be helpful aside from what radio or TV shows
    she was in, I have that much. Any facts pertaining to her life or a moment
    from her career. I really appreciate your help. Thanks!

    Mark Lavonier
    resimark@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:33:27 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Correction

    In my last posting on car radios, I noted,

>     On a good night, one could pull in stations from more than 10 miles
>     away.

    That, of course should have been "100 miles," not "10."  In fact, car
    radios were so well designed ([removed], had such good characteristics) that
    in the early 1960s, an article in one of the trade electronics magazines
    (Radio-Electronics, I think) showed how one could adapt a car radio for
    home use.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:33:58 -0400
    From: wilditralian@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  EDGAR BERGEN

    21 JUN 03

    	A number of years ago, my wife and I were having dinner with a couple
    of
    friends of ours in a little Italian cafe.  The other couple were heavily
    into amateur drama, and had met when they were working together at the
    British Embassy Players in Washington.  Somehow, the subject turned to
    old radio, which >he< was quite familiar with because he was raised in
    New York City and Baltimore.  She had no knowledge of it, having been
    brought up in england.
    	We were discussing phenomena tat occurred in old-time radio.  I brought
    up the subject of Edgar Bergen, suggesting that it was highly unusual
    that a ventriloquist would achieve fame in a non-visual format where the
    very fact of his ventriloguism was irrelevant.
    	At this point, the gentlemen of the couple at the next table apologized
    for butting into our conversation, but said that his father had worked on
    the old Rudy Vallee show and was the one who discovered Bergen and
    brought him to Rudy for an audition.  Rudy liked him and hired him,
    saying, "We've gotta hire him because he'll never make it big on the
    stage - his lips move."

    Best regards,

    Jim Arva

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:34:04 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

       From Those Were The Days --

       1954 - NBC presented the final broadcast of The Railroad Hour, hosted
    by Gordon MacRae. The program had been on the air for 16 years.
        Joe

    --
    Visit my homepage: [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:34:22 -0400
    From: tallpaulk@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Potato Chips

    Sorrrrrrrry for the off-topic intrusion.  Several weeks back we got on the
    topic of Marcel potato chips from Ohio.  If the original poster (or anyone
    interested) will contact me off line, I have an answer.

    -           Paul Kattelman - Sharonville, Ohio

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:34:45 -0400
    From: "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  L FOR LANKY

    Once a year I send in the same request hoping someone that might be new
    reads this request and comes through with at least one full show. The show
    was called L For Lanky (possibly Lankey). The story took place in a
    Lancaster Bomber during WWII and it was broadcast on CBC.
    If you have the show I would appreciate hearing from you at
    gacoppen@[removed]
    I have a 5 minute part of one program and to me that says there must more,
    if someone took the trouble to tape 5 minutes why not a full program. Take
    care .........George Coppen

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:35:49 -0400
    From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Electrical" Transcriptions

    Again lets clear  up the questions about recorded programs. First about
    inside-out versus outside-in. A matter of cost. When recording the "chip"
    gravitates toward the center of the disc, which is no problem if you are
    recording inside/out. If you are recording outside-in a vacuum machine
    which sucks up the "chip" is needed. These were expensive. RCA had a kit
    with which to modify it's model 70-D transcription machines so that they
    could also be used as recorders. They were powered by large heavy duty
    motors, and had revovable plates to accomodate the recording lathes.
    Their 76-D audio consoles had a circuit activated by a switch on the
    panel to activate the feed to the high powered recording amplifier.

    When I first joined the engineering staff of CBS in 1944 recorded
    programs were not used on the domestic network. All "repeats" were live.
    In 1945 I transferred to the Hollywood (KNX). Sometime between then and
    when I transferred back in 1951, CBS started using recorded repeats and
    equipped small studio five and six with transcription machines to play
    back the transcriptions, scheduling two hours in the afternoon and two
    hours at night. Radio Recorders did the recording using three sides of
    two sixteen inch blanks, with a lengthy overlap at the end of each
    portion. By listening on a "cue" speaker, the playback engineer could
    "synch" the two portions before he ":crossfaded".

    The transcription credit "by electrical transcription" preceded and
    followed each program. One afternoonI I was assigned to "master control"
    and promptly at 2:00 pm switched up studio six expecting to hear
    announcer Allen Botzer pronounce "by transcription". Instead I heard
    Steve Allen stating "by carrier pigeon". He had been shooiting the breeze
    with Allen, distracted him. and intercepted the engineers hand cue.
    Program director Maury Webster asked Steve to please not do that again.
    Steve promised that he would not.

    I did enjoy my six years at CBS-Hollywood, but did appreciative the more
    luctrative income I enjoyed when I returtned to New York. .

    Bill Murtough

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:36:23 -0400
    From: "Arte" <arte@[removed];
    To: "otr digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  It's a Joke, Son

    The other night, while searching for the Cubs game on TV (why can't they
    just keep 'em on one station?) I came accross a movie titled "It's a Joke,
    Son."
    It was just starting and starred Kenny Delmar as Beauregard Claghorn. I
    never knew Kenny had made such a movie, but it was fun to watch. In fact, I
    forgot all about the Cubs, which is alright since they lost anyway.

    The movie is in black&white and apparantly in bad shape. Some scenes were
    very dark. The gist of the plot was how he came to run for state senator
    against a corrupt machine led by yankee scalawags

    Is this film available anywhere?

    Arte
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:36:43 -0400
    From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  calling all cars 16in transcription discs

    hi
    info per the calling all car 16in discs, for those who have inquired, you may
    purchase the 16in discs at $10 ea in lots of  10 plus postage, i have just
    about gone through them, and i am throwing out any damaged ones, there
    were a few so far.
    ed

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:36:57 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  June 22nd birthdays

    June 22nd births:

    06-22-1901 - Jack Whiting - Philadelphia, PA - d. 2-15-1961
    singer: "MGM Radio Club"
    06-22-1902 - Phil Duey - Macy, IN - d. 4-7-1982
    singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Leo Reisman Orchestra"; "Happy Bakers"
    06-22-1920 - Paul Frees - Chicago, IL - d. 11-1-1986
    actor: Jethro Dumont/Green Lama "Green Lama"; Robert Aladdin "Mr. Aladdin"
    06-22-1949 - Meryl Streep - Summit, NJ
    actress. "Earplay"

    June 22nd deaths:

    01-14-1909 - Joseph Losey - La Crosse, WI - d. 6-22-1984
    director: "Words at War"
    01-26-1899 - Wyllis Cooper - Pekin, IL - d. 6-22-1955
    producer, writer, director: "Army Hour"; "Charlie and Jessie"; "Campbell
    Playhouse"
    05-10-1899 - Fred Astaire - Omaha, NE - d. 6-22-1987
    dancer, actor: "Fred Astaire Show"
    05-21-1917 - Dennis Day - The Bronx, NY - d. 6-22-1988
    singer, comedian: "Jack Benny Program"; "A Day in the Life of Dennis Day"
    06-10-1922 - Judy Garland - Grand Rapids, MN - d. 6-22-1969
    singer, actress: "Good News of 1938"; "Bob Hope Show"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Spencer Tracy

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:48:28 -0400
    From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  radio transcriptions

    I am a blind person and handled talking books for years, but I can't
    imagine how one would play a record that starts from the inside out,
    especially as I would think the turntable would want naturally to go
    towards the center.  Was the direction reversed, did the LP appear to be
    going backwards?  Kurt

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:28:25 -0400
    From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Natalie Masters & Candy Matson

    Kenneth Clarke asked:

>     In the credits of an episode of the TV show "The Addams Family"., an
>     actress named Natalie Masters who played a commissioner's wife is
>     listed.  Didn't Natalie Masters play the private investigator Candy
>     Matson on the OTR show "Candy Matson" from the 1930's?

    Yes, Natalie Masters played the part of Candy Matson, first in San
    Francisco, where she was born in 1915, and then in Los Angeles where she
    died in 1986. Candy Matson was broadcast from 1949 till 1952, a much
    more modern show than the 1930s.

    Natlie's other TV and movie credits can be found at the Internet Movie
    Database:

    [removed],+Natalie

    Gerry Wright
    ZoneZebra Productions
    Yukon 2-8209
    San Francisco

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:49:55 -0400
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  inside/outside

    Yes, I have held such a set in my hands, ironically it was a fairly late
    vintage Old Fashioned Revival Hour - ca. late 50s I imagine - and it did
    alternate inside start/outside start between the 2 (pressed vinyl) sides.
    There may have been a few others I've encountered, but the OFRH stands out
    in my memory. In my experience the actual practice was rare (but not
    non-existent).

    Joe Salerno
    Video Works! Is it working for you?
    PO Box 273405 - Houston TX 77277-3405 [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:18:09 -0400
    From: "Alan R. Betz" <arbetz@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Inside Out/Outside In

    In Digest 2003:Issue 243, dated Friday, 20 Jun 2003, Elizabeth
    McCleod <lizmcl@[removed]; asked:

>       Has anyone out there *actually held in their hands* a set of discs
>     recorded in such a mixed manner, or is this one of Those Stories?

      I am actually holding in my hand, which is making this post rather
    difficult to type, the discs for four programs recorded in the CBC
    Radio Canada Vancouver studios on 12 inch "audiodiscs" brand lacquers,
    which alternate between Outside In and Inside Out formats.  The first is
    The Woolworth Hour, recorded on June 3rd, 1956.  There are eight sides,
    with side one recorded Outside In, and the next seven sides
    alternating.  Then there is a four disc set of a program called BBC
    Concert, June 5, 1956, also starting Outside In on side one, and
    alternating for the next three sides.  Next is a two disc set called Cal
    Jackson Quartet, Feb 27, 1957.  Again, side one is O-I and the rest
    alternate.  Then there is a two disc set of Little Symphony, Jun 3, 1956
    with the same scheme.
      It is not "just one of Those Stories."
      Regards to all, Alan.

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:18:23 -0400
    From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hey there, Kemosabe

    Joseph Ross asked about the use of the title, "Kemosabe" as exchanged
    between the Lone Ranger and Tonto.  To the best of my knowledge, they
    continued to call each other by that name until the end of the radio series
    in September, 1954.  If you listen to "IOU", the Sept. 1, 1954 next-to-last
    live broadcast of the program, at the end of the second act, both the Ranger
    and Tonto exchange "Kemosabes" as they greet one another when the crooks are
    being rounded up.

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:18:36 -0400
    From: "James G. DuPuy" <dupuy@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Car Radios:

    Hi All!

    I remember old car radios quite well!  We always had a radio in the car.
    The first car I remember was a 1957 Ford and it had a tube radio.  The high
    voltage or "B" voltage was developed from a vibrator that had a contact that
    alternatly switched the 6 or 12 volts from the cars electrical system to a
    transformer primary.  The secondary was a much higher turn ratio so you got
    a high voltage.  This was actually AC yet, so depending on how old the radio
    was, it may have had a tube rectifier and filter caps and a choke coil
    somewhat similar to a radio that conected to your house plug.  The new ones
    within a few years of when "solid state" came out had silicon diodes but
    still had tubes for everything else.

    I remember at the age of 18 buying a junk mercedes for $25 (the car was in
    really bad shape!) just to get the radio.  It was in two parts.  The first
    was a metal box that was the power supply.  The second was the actual radio.
    The power supply had 2 vibrators and a rather heavy tranformer.  It had a
    cable with at least 5 wires in it.  2 wires for the filiment supply, one for
    ground, and the other two for a 140 VDC for the recieveing section of the
    actual radio, and the remaining wire was the 240 volts for the plate supply
    for the audio output.  What was truely unique about this radio, was that it
    had MW (medium wave, same as our AM), Shortwave, and the new FM bands!  It
    was not stereo since this was not out yet, but the radio had quite a good
    sound on all the bands.  I believe the audio output power was pretty high,
    around 40 watts, if memory serves me correctly.  I used that radio for many
    years.  Its reception was truely impresive!  I installed it in several cars
    through the years.  I remember being able to recieve WSB in Atlanta, GA from
    Cleveland, OH like it was a local.  It normally pulled in am stations from
    out of state quite well.  I first got the radio in 1970.  I remember having
    a 1960 Ford that had a tube radio also.  It always amazed me that the car
    radios could pull in a station so much better than an even fairly high
    priced portable or even a fairly good stereo.

    I can also remember several times sitting in the car to wait to hear the end
    of a show.  There were not meny stations playing good OTR in Cleveland in
    the 70s but there were a couple station (WJW, 850 for one) that did have a
    good mystery on every night.  I remember it being an hour long and it being
    on rather late.  My solution was to adjust a cassette recorders speed about
    1/2 of normal to catch two programs on one side of a 120 tape.  Rigged a
    clock radio to switch an outlet so it would turn on the recorder at the
    correct time and record for an hour.  Take care all!

    James G. DuPuy  dupuy@[removed] or gdupuy@[removed]
    I don't suffer from insanity, I create and enjoy every minute of it!
    Mitsy, my yorkie dog says; "I'm so darn cute even I can't stand it!"

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:18:59 -0400
    From: Zharold138@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Amos n Andy
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            Hi anybody,
           This a reminder that on TRIO (that word TV) network this Sunday
    evening
    at 09:00 [removed] and 12:00 [removed] " Amos n Andy-a Anatomy of a Controversy" hosted
    by George Kirby from ,I think ,1986 which I have read that it was edited so
    that it will be "politicly correct" for todays standards.
          Then a showing of their only feature movie from 1930 "Check and Double
    Check".
    I wonder if there will be any cutting of this film also? The movie times are:
    08:00 [removed] and 11:00 [removed] ([removed])
                     Till Next Time,Harold Zeigler

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:46:52 -0400
    From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Under The Dash Radios

    <<Attorney Ross said his Dad told him that early car radios were removable,
    you could take it with you to a new [removed];>

    The "under the dash" model was my first car radio in a 1940 Ford coupe, an
    AM Motorola that was easy to install.  Of course, you sometimes banged your
    knee on it, but it had a dial that lit up the entire front seat, almost
    light enough to read a map.  And the whip antenna on the rear fender was
    real cool, just like ones the police cars had!

    In the 1960's, the Blaupunkt radio tuner from Germany was the first FM
    adapter that would make the inboard  car radios receive both AM and FM
    stations on the one antenna. The AM speakers didn't do the classical or easy
    listening music programs back then any justice, and it wasn't even stereo!!
    You could uninstall both of these for your new vehicle. (Wish I had that '40
    Ford again!)

    Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:56:17 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Natalie Masters

    Kenneth Clarke wondered:

>     My question is: Didn't Natalie Masters play the private investigator Candy
>     Matson on
>     the OTR show "Candy Matson" from the 1930's?

    Yes, in fact she appeared on several television series. I have a Dragnet
    episode (TV) in which she has a somewhat small part as a criminal!

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:56:25 -0400
    From: "Ryan Hall" <uncle_festor@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Tennessee or Texas

    I am from Luttrell, TN, and Chet Atkins is defintely from my hometown. FYI,
    Luttrell, TN, is 30 minutes directly north of Knoxville. As you drive into
    the town, there is a sign that says birthplace of Chet Atkins right next to
    the sign that says hometown of Kenny Chesney.

    I have to say I was shocked when I saw this mentioned on the OTR digest.
    Most people in Knoxville probably could not even tell you where Luttrell is.
    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:57:15 -0400
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Olde Tyme Radio Network Schedule for week of
     June 22nd

    Here are the shows you can listen in to anytime this coming week at:
    [removed]        24/7   high quality stream

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
    Gregory Peck Memorial Tribute
    1. THE SCREEN GUILD THEATER   1/6/47     "The Yearling"  stars
    Mr. Peck, Jane Wyman, and Claude Jarmen, Jr.
    2. HALLMARK PLAYHOUSE    2/3/49   "Abe Lincoln: The Prarie Years"   Mr. Peck
    in Carl Sandburg's famous play.  James Hilton, host.
    3. SCREEN DIRECTOR'S PLAYHOUSE    6/7/51    "The Gunfighter"
    stars Mr. Peck with Wally Mayer, Byron Kane, Ted DeCorsia.

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
    1. Salute To Gregory Peck - SUSPENSE    CBS    9/16/48
    "Hitch-Hike Poker"  stars Mr. Peck.   From  CBS disks.
    2. THE COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL with BILL STERN -  NBC
    Pgrm. #551 - 5/26/50.  Guest: Brooklyn Dodgers star: Jackie Robinson.
    3. BOB and RAY XTRA with Bob Elliott & Ray Goulding.

    Enjoy --   Tom & Jerry

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