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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 412


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Extended Recording/Tape Storage Boxes/CBS RMT
	 OTR in Canada?
	
	 A blast from the past
	 Speaking in self defense
	       REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
	       (Fwd) REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
	       (Fwd) REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
	       (Fwd) REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
	 The Lone Ranger
	 WAVE files
	

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 05:05:39 -0500
From: "John F. MacEachern" <johnfmac@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Extended Recording/Tape Storage Boxes/CBS RMT
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi Guys!

There was a question yesterday regarding whether an advertized radio that
could tape for four hours was worth it.  I called for information on a radio
like that a while ago;  it's not worth it.  It was too expensive and the
tapes (120's for the "four hours") could only be played back on that radio,
they were useless in all other players.

I'ld like to offer a better idea.  I can't take credit for it and I'm
embarrased to say it's very simple, yet I never thought of it.  A few weeks
ago there were a few posts on archiving tapes on a VCR.  I've long had a
problem with taping from the radio.  I really enjoy a local talk show on
WBZ, I like to record segments with interesting guests, but I work when it's
on, so I could only set my stereo to record 90 minutes of a five hour show,
I missed many good interviews!!  After seeing the posts a few weeks ago, I
took my boombox and hooked it up to my VCR.  Now when I come home, I can
listen to all five hours, I just love it, it's great!!!  Even more, on the
nights when there is one or more interesting guests, I just reverse the
wires and tape the segments I want to save.  I never miss anything any more
and I can listen to them anywhere I want, walkman, car, work ect.  

Spend your money on a good VCR and Boombox, you'll get more taping time,
more versatility and you can use both for other stuff!!!

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There was another post regarding a cheap way to store cassette tapes.  My
roomate works at Tower Records, he saves the boxes the tapes are delivered
in for me.  They each hold 25 cassettes and are real sturdy.  If he didn't
save them for me, they would just throw them in the dumpster.  So, go to
your local Tower Records and ask them to save the boxes for you, they've got
a lot; maybe offer a tip (my roomate, Paul could use the dough!!).  By the
way, for those of you with lots of CDs, they do the same with those boxes as
well.

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I've just recently joined this newsgroup.  One of my main interests is in
obtaining recordings of the CBS Radio Mystery Therater.  However, I'm not a
good candidate as a trading partner for I only have tapes of seven shows,
six of them I got through the goodwill of a subscriber to this newsgroup.  I
do have some "real" OTR shows on tape but you guys probably already have
most of what I've got!  I would really appreciate it if some of you out
there would copy some episodes for me, I would really like to hear more
episodes of this show;  I also can't get started in trading until I've got
something to offer.  I'll send you the blanks and some money, if you require
it.  Please E-mail me, if you could help me.

Thanks very much!!!

John MacEachern

JohnFMAC@[removed]  (or)
johnfmac@[removed]  

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:07:57 -0500
From: Charles Mazza <flash@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR in Canada?
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello all,

Does anyone know of any OTR presently on Canadian radio? More specifically,
a station that can be picked up in the general Montreal area? Is there any
OTR on CBC shortwave? Any other shorwave that can be picked up clearly (more
or less) from this area? Thanks in advance for any information.

Regards

Charles Mazza

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 14:49:45 -0500
From: alabok@[removed] (Bob Jennings)
To: otr@[removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

        Re Nruce's comment on Wisful Vista, there are indeed real towns
which streets named after the town.  In some cases the town evolved around a
street and developed from that, but more often the town named a street which
they hoped would be a commercial or industrial heart of the city after the
town.  I've lived in a couple of small towns where this was the case.  I am
told that usually these streets named for towns seldom evolve into much and
after a decade or so are part of the backwater while the town/city grows in
other, unexpected ways.  That would probably fit the situation with Fibber,
settling in 1935 on a prosperous bustling throughfare and then a few years
later, its a backwater residental area on the outskirts of the city.  (altho
from all the visitors who dropped in there every week I guess the
neighborhood was still pretty bustling).

        I think there was a Meet Corlis Archer movie as well.  I haven't
seen it and would probably be pretty disappointed if I did.  With only a few
exceptions the movies made from radio shows are pretty inferior.  Even
allowing that changes must be made to transfer a radio program to the
movies, it seems the studios in an effort to inject their own twist on the
characters or stories generally turned out poor imitations, sometimes barely
recognizable as deriving from the raedio shows.
        Maybe somebody could work up a list of movies based on radio
programs.  There should be two main categories, movies derived directly from
the radio program and suposedly faithful to the theme (such as the
Gildersleeve, Our Miss Brooks, Fibber McGee, Lum & Abner movies), and movies
which just had a lot of radio personalitites in them, preferably more or
less in character. Some of these movies (such as the awful Shadow movies)
strayed pretty far from the content of the character but a list like this
would be both enlightening and useful.  Seeing these old movies, no matter
how bad, at least gives us a chance to see what the stars and actors looked
and sounded like in non-radio plays.

        On Space Patrol again; up until a couple of years ago most of the
Space Patrol programs came from the Armed Forces network Pacific theater,
but new shows complete with all commercials and premium offers come into the
hobby, and more could show up next year if all goes well.  Interesting to me
is that the very early years of the show have never turned up, even tho they
were all recorded on tape and presumably all saved.  We shall see what
developes.

        On a previous comment about the Smiths of Hollywood; this is a show
which had a lot of big personalitites in it and sounds more like a seventies
TV show.  It abounds in insult humor and comedy situations which are studip
rather than being funny. (This is my opinion anyway).  If you just sample a
couple of the shows they seem to have funny moments, but when you listen to
four or five or more all the similarities and triteness of the characters
shows thru.  Ain't so good.  I don't think it lasted more than one season.

                ---Bob Jennings  

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:46:25 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: A blast from the past
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I came across my collection of OTR fanzines from the mid 70's yesterday. They
are rather interesting. There's some names in there that should be familiar to
digest subscribers. Jay Hickerson was publishing "Hello Again" in Connecticut
in 1976. And there was an outfit called BRC Quality Dubs selling reels and
cassettes. You all know who that is, right? But whatever happened to Robert
Costello? He published the fanzine "The Golden Days of Radio". His fanzine
consisted of ad cuts, short articles, reprints of OTR heroes who appeared in
their own comic books and ads for OTR on tape. There were a number of trivia
quizes too. I didn't know Captain Midnight's airplane was named for another
OTR hero.

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:22:25 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Speaking in self defense
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

It seems my opinion has been disputed so I had better delve into the subject a
little more. The reason I referred to Kelsey Grammar as a midget is because,
compared to Jack Benny, that's precisely what he is. He can model himself
all he wants to after Jack, but he simply isn't as talented. That seems to
be the curse of today's entertainment as compared to the Golden Age of film
and radio, lack of real talent.

Or, probably more correctly, the talent today isn't properly groomed,
trained or nourished. I don't really believe talented people ceased to be
born forty or fifty years ago. But today's talent is lacking.

I'm sure the plethora of "stars" that NBC has praising Jack that Ross Learn
mentioned will be the usual gang of passing nobodies. Five years from now
they'll all be answers to trivia quizes. A la MacLean Stevenson, Susanne
Sommers and a host of others.

Nope, I think today's entertainment industry consists of a bunch of no talent
nobodies. They're like fads, here today, gone tomorrow. Not a single one
comes close to the same league as Jack Benny, Bob Hope, Fred Allen and all
the others. Don't even mention the movies, that's too sad to contemplate.

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Date:          Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:45:58 5
From: apgar@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

A few issues back, the question was aked about an
extended play audio cassette recorder with a timer.
I don't know about the make that was mentioned in the
letter, but I bought such a unit from REEL-TALK, INC.
It takes standard audio cassettes and records the tape
at a quarter of the speed.  A C120 will record for four
hours on one side.  At this speed, it is not quite Hi-Fi.
It has a digital clock/timer.  It has ten AM presets and
ten FM presets.  This unit only records one program.
It is great for recording talk shows, but terrible for music.
All tape that are recorded on this unit must be played 
back on this unit.  The unit costs about $[removed]  REAL-
TALK has an 800 number, 800-766-8255 or call,
334-704-0751.

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Date:          Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:53:20 5
From: apgar@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       (Fwd) REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From:          Self <apgar@[removed]>
To:            otr@[removed]
Subject:       REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
Cc:            watmanj@[removed]
Date:          Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:41:19

A few issues back, the question was aked about an
extended play audio cassette recorder with a timer.
I don't know about the make that was mentioned in the
letter, but I bought such a unit from REEL-TALK, INC.
It takes standard audio cassettes and records the tape
at a quarter of the speed.  A C120 will record for four
hours on one side.  At this speed, it is not quite Hi-Fi.
It has a digital clock/timer.  It has ten AM presets and
ten FM presets.  This unit only records one program.
It is great for recording talk shows, but terrible for music.
All tape that are recorded on this unit must be played 
back on this unit.  The unit costs about $[removed]  REAL-
TALK has an 800 number, 800-766-8255 or call,
334-704-0751.

------------------------------

Date:          Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:51:17 5
From: apgar@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       (Fwd) REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From:          Self <apgar@[removed]>
To:            otr@[removed]
Subject:       REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
Cc:            watmanj@[removed]
Date:          Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:41:19

A few issues back, the question was aked about an
extended play audio cassette recorder with a timer.
I don't know about the make that was mentioned in the
letter, but I bought such a unit from REEL-TALK, INC.
It takes standard audio cassettes and records the tape
at a quarter of the speed.  A C120 will record for four
hours on one side.  At this speed, it is not quite Hi-Fi.
It has a digital clock/timer.  It has ten AM presets and
ten FM presets.  This unit only records one program.
It is great for recording talk shows, but terrible for music.
All tape that are recorded on this unit must be played 
back on this unit.  The unit costs about $[removed]  REAL-
TALK has an 800 number, 800-766-8255 or call,
334-704-0751.

------------------------------

Date:          Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:53:20 5
From: apgar@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:       (Fwd) REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From:          Self <apgar@[removed]>
To:            otr@[removed]
Subject:       REAL-TALK audio cassette tape recorder.
Cc:            watmanj@[removed]
Date:          Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:41:19

A few issues back, the question was aked about an
extended play audio cassette recorder with a timer.
I don't know about the make that was mentioned in the
letter, but I bought such a unit from REEL-TALK, INC.
It takes standard audio cassettes and records the tape
at a quarter of the speed.  A C120 will record for four
hours on one side.  At this speed, it is not quite Hi-Fi.
It has a digital clock/timer.  It has ten AM presets and
ten FM presets.  This unit only records one program.
It is great for recording talk shows, but terrible for music.
All tape that are recorded on this unit must be played 
back on this unit.  The unit costs about $[removed]  REAL-
TALK has an 800 number, 800-766-8255 or call,
334-704-0751.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 14:24:46 +0001 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> I assume that in the case of a
> syndicated series like the Lone Ranger (if I'm not mistaken), numerous
> copies of any one episode would be shipped or mailed to subscribing
> [removed] Therefore could numerous old discs of the same episode
> survive?

I believe that the Lone Ranger was a network show, not syndicated, at
least through most of its run.  It began as a locally-produced show on
WXYZ in Detroit and then began to be fed to other stations.  But I always
thought that was through a direct hookup, not syndication of recordings.  
In any event, I had heard that this ad-hoc network feed of the Lone 
Ranger evolved into the Mutual network, which still exists.

In the early 1950s, when I first discovered the Lone Ranger on radio 
(after I had already been watching him for some time on TV), he was on 
ABC on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday (Sgt. Preston of the Yukon was on 
Tuesday and Thursday).  Then he moved to NBC, five nights a week, 
sometime in 1954 or 55.  I later learned that this was when they stopped 
doing new radio shows; the NBC shows were reruns.  I don't know how long 
the reruns continued on NBC radio.  Where I lived, they were on at 7:00 
PM, which was at the same time as Superman and other TV shows that I 
refused to miss, and I got out of the habit of listening (The ABC shows 
were on at 7:30, which was a much more convenient time for me at the time.).

======================================================================
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
======================================================================

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:37:25 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: WAVE files
Message-Id: <v01520d00acdba5158031@[[removed]]>

Nathan wrote:

>Everyone with Windows can access wave files.

How about the 15-20 per cent of netizens who owns Macs (like me)?

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 19:53:20 -0500
From: alabok@[removed] (Bob Jennings)
To: otr@[removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

        Someone in one of the recent mailings (sorry, can't recall the
name)asked about storage material for cassettes.  As some of you know, I
have been handling the cassette collection of a fellow collector who died
last year, selling stuff off to help out the family.
        Anyway, this gentleman used plastic cassette storage boxes which
hold 15 cassettes each.  They are sturdy plastic, solid black with
transluscent smoke black covers, about twelve inches long.  This person
labeled the ends of each storage box, and stacked them on simple metal
shelving units, the kind any hardware of discount store sells.  They stack
nicely and he was able to store thousands of cassettes in a very modest
amount of wall space.
        These boxes sell thru places like Radio Shack for about four to six
bucks.  The reason I bring this up, is that I still have tons of these
storage boxes left, so if anybody wants these things (slightly used but
still in excellent condition, I mean, all they are used for is to store
cassettes)I will happily sell them at $[removed] each plus whatever the exact
shipping is to get them to you.  This is, I believe, a bargan price, and the
money received goes to a worthy cause.  Id anyone is interested please
E-mail me.

        A couple of people have also asked about recommendations for the
best shows so they can start collecting radio.  I dunno what these folks
expect.  Every collector can make recommendations, but indivudal tastes
differ considerably, and in my opinion the only way a person can discover
what he likes and doesn't like is simply to try the stuff out.  Even
comedians as universally admired as Jack Benny or Fred Allen have their
detractors, and for every person who loves Mysterious Traveler there's
another guy who swears Inner Sanctum is much better.
        Half the fun of this hobby is trying new stuff out.  There are shows
I have eagerly sampled to discover they were aweful, crap which I will never
listen to again, but, I would never have known if I hadn;'t taken the time
to give the new title a shot.
        By the same token I am more usually pleasantly surprised when some
new title or some obscure program turns out to have really entertaining
stories and believable characters, and I would never have learned how good
it was if I hadn't been willing to take a chance and give that new show a try.
        I don't think anybody can tell anybody else what is "good" or "bad"
since all entainment is subjective.  You have to try things out, experiment,
give it a fair shot before you can zero in on your particular favorite genre
or shows.  If you want someone to give you a course outline, a study plan
and a list of approved material, then take a college study course, where
everything is deliniated, otherwise, jump in the water and learn to swim
with the rest of us.

                ---Bob Jennings

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