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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 86
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Suspense & Johnny Dollar          [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
  Radio Transcription Auction           [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
  3-25 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Re: six two and even                  [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
  Re: Hot Ralston                       [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
  Re: Six-Two-Four Ranch                [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
  Classical singing [removed]      [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Harriet Hilliard, actress             [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  RALSTON                               [ "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed]; ]
  TV/Radio Promotions                   [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
  Kellogg's Pep                         [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  Ozzie & Harriet                       [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
  Re: 10-2-4                            [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  Cereals For Serials                   [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
  re: six two and even                  [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  Lum and Abner sites                   [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  That Strong Guy                       [ "John Southard" <jsouthard@[removed] ]

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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:45:09 -0500
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Suspense & Johnny Dollar

It was asked, but I don't think fully answered at least as of #84 which
was the final show of Suspense and Johnny Dollar to leave the air.

The answer appears to be Suspense which came on over CBS AFTER Johnny
Dollar. Generally, in the East Johnny Dollar was on about 6:10 PM after
the news and Suspense followed at about 6:35 PM.

Jim Widner

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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:45:23 -0500
From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Radio Transcription Auction

Just a quick reminder that the First Generation Radio Archives Transcription
Disk Auction for March will be ending soon. We've already received a
considerable number of bids, but as of this writing, many of the disks will
be going for their minimum bid price. As a result, in many cases, a bid of
just a dollar or two above the minimum will win you the disks you want.

If you're a collector of radio recordings and you're not yet on our mailing
list, you can quickly sign up by visiting our website at:

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As always, a wide variety of disks are being offered -- truly something for
almost every taste -- so, if you're interested in 16" disks or old time
radio in general (and who here isn't?) be sure to sign up today. We know
you'll like what we have to offer.

Thanks and best always --

Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
"Preserving Radio's Past for the Future"
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:55:49 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  3-25 births/deaths

March 25th births

03-25-1867 - Arturo Toscanini - Parma, Italy - d. 1-16-1957
conductor: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"
03-25-1887 - Raymond Gram Swing - Cortland, NY - d. 12-22-1968
commentator: "Voice of America"
03-25-1892 - Andy Clyde - Blaingowrie, Scotland - d. 5-18-1967
actor: California Carlson "Hopalong Cassidy"
03-25-1897 - John Laurie - Dumfries, Scotland - d. 6-23-1980
actor: James Fraser "Dad's Army"
03-25-1899 - Bella Spewack - Bucharest, Romania - d. 4-27-1990
writer: "The Radio Guild"
03-25-1901 - Ed Begley - Hartford, CT - d. 4-28-1970
actor: Walt Levinson "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"; Charlie
Chan "Charlie Chan"
03-25-1901 - John Earl Fetzer - Decatur, IN - d. 2-21-1991
broadcast pioneer: "WKZO Fiftieth Anniversary Broadcast"
03-25-1903 - Binnie Barnes - London, England - d. 7-27-1998
panelist: "Leave It to the Girls"; "Breakfast with Binnie and Mike"
03-25-1903 - Frankie Carle - Providence, RI - d. 3-7-2001
bandleader, pianist: "Pot o' Gold"; "Treasure Chest"
03-25-1906 - Margaret Daum - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 2-23-1977
singer: "American Album of Familiar Music"
03-25-1908 - David Lean - Croydon, Surrey, England - d. 4-16-1991
screenwriter, film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-25-1908 - Philip Reed - NYC - d. 12-21-1996
actor: Ross Barrington "Society Girl"; Brian Wells "David Harum"
03-25-1909 - Jay Blackton - NYC - d. 1-8-1994
composer, conductor, pianist: "Stu Erwin Show"; "Broadway Showtime"
03-25-1914 - Robert Rounseville - Attleboro, MA - d. 8-6-1974
singer: "The Voice of Firestone"
03-25-1916 - Jean Rogers - Belmont, MA - d. 2-24-1991
actor: Elaine Dascomb "Those We Love"
03-25-1919 - Jeanne Cagney - NYC - d. 12-7-1984
actor: (Sister of James Cagney) "Movietone Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"
03-25-1920 - Howard Cosell - Winston-Salem, NC - d. 3-23-1995
sportscaster: "Speaking of Sports"
03-25-1921 - Nancy Kelly - Lowell, MA - d. 1-15-1995
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Free Company"; "Suspense"
03-25-1940 - Anita Bryant - Barnsdall, OK
singer: "Guard Session"; "Let's Go To Town"
03-25-1965 - Sarah Jessica Parker - Nelsonville, OH
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

March 25th deaths

01-15-1899 - Goodman Ace - Kansas City, MO - d. 3-25-1982
comedian, writer: "Easy Aces"
02-25-1906 - Warren Hymer - NYC - d. 3-25-1948
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
05-06-1899 - Billy Cotton - London, England - d. 3-25-1969
bandleader: "Wakey Wakey!!"
05-10-1921 - Nancy Walker - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-25-1992
actor: "Mail Call"
06-01-1905 - Robert Newton - Shaftesbury, England - d. 3-25-1956
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-16-1915 - Gloria Blondell - NYC - d. 3-25-1986
actor: Gerry Booker "I Love A Mystery" Gloria Dean "Hollywood Mystery
Time"
09-08-1902 - Welcome Lewis - d. 3-25-1999
singer: "Singo"; "The Singing Bee"
09-16-1911 - Paul Henning - Independence, MO - d. 3-25-2005
writer: "Burns and Allen"
09-27-1887 - Pat "Uncle Ezra" Barrett - Holden, MO - d. 3-25-1959
actor: "National Barn Dance"; Uncle Ezra "Uncle Ezra"
11-29-1910 - Al Schwartz - Passaic, NJ - d. 3-25-1988
writer: "Phil Harris/Alice Faye Show"; "Bob Hope Show"
12-12-1915 - Bea Fontane - d. 3-25-2002
singer: (The Fontane Sisters) "Chesterfield Supper Club"

Ron Sayles
bogusotr@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:43:02 -0500
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: six two and even

Jody Davis wrote:

Barbara Watkins asked about the phrase "six two and even." I can't say I've
heard it on radio, but I have vivid memories of it from my childhood hours
spent in front of the old black-and-white. The phrase was spoken by Dick
Tracy in the cartoon series as he was signing off on his 2-way wrist
radio/tv. The actual closing was "Six two and even, over and out."

I thought I read some place where that phrase (six two and even, over
and out) was also used by Maxwell Smart on "Get Smart."  Am I wrong
about that?  Perhaps he picked it up from the Dick Tracy stuff?

Jim Widner

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:43:12 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Hot Ralston

All of the talk about Hot Ralston prompted me to  write this. I have to
admit. I loved the stuff when I was a kid, and still do.  It is no where to be
found in grocery stores in my area, so, I get mine from The  Vermont Store. I
did
notice a difference in today's Ralston, not so much in the  taste, but rather
in the texture of the cereal after it is cooked. Then I  noticed it is the
"Instant" kind rather than the regular I was always used to  getting when I
was a
kid. The difference between instant Ralston, and regular,  is the same to me
as the difference between instant oatmeal, and old fashioned  oatmeal. The
instant oatmeal has no "bite." In other words, when you chew it,  there is
nothing to chew like there is in old fashioned oatmeal due to how the  grain
is
processed. It is ground very fine to make it instant, so there is no  chew
factor.
I cannot eat instant oatmeal. Way to pasty, and gummy for this guy.  Can you
imagine making a big batch of raisin oatmeal cookies, and using instant
oatmeal? No big grains of oats to crunch on. It would be like eating a sugar
cookie.

My Ralston was always served with butter, and sugar. White, or  brown.
Whichever we had at the time. It's still the only way I eat it today. I  wish
I
could find regular Ralston some place. Does anyone know if it can be  found?

I remember conning my mother into buying Nabisco Shredded Wheat  just so I
could get the cut-outs off of the cardboard dividers that separated  the
layers
of biscuits. Or the packages of Kellogg's Pep so I could get the  fighter
plane cut-outs on the back of the packages. I listened to the radio, and  the
announcer would tell what great merchandise was on the back of the package,
but I
could never find most of them simply because our little store didn't sell
that much of the stuff, and, as a consequence, didn't turn his stock that
often.

Someone mentioned sending off for a premium one day, and then  start looking
the next day for your package. The first time I heard the saying,  "A Watched
Pot Never Boils," was because of that very thing. I remember watching  for the
mailman day after day, and hearing my grandmother say those  words.

Charlie

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:14 -0500
From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Six-Two-Four Ranch

Bob Slate writes:

There was  a radio show from the early 1940's called," 6-2-4 Ranch"  or
'Six-Two-Four Ranch"and was sponsored by Dr. Pepper. It's Logo: 6-2-4. It
starred Universal Pictures cowboy singing star, Dick Foran and The Sons Of
The pioneers.

Close, Bob, but this was in fact "10-2-4 Ranch" and, in addition to Dick
Foran and the Sons of the Pioneers, it also starred Martha Mears. The title,
which was also represented in the graphics on the Dr. Pepper bottle,
supposedly represented the times of day when the human body needs a little
"pick-me-up" to avoid an energy slump.

According to Dr. Pepper historians, in the 1920s,  Dr. Walter Eddy at
Columbia University studied the body's metabolism and discovered that a
natural drop in energy occurs about 10:30 AM, 2:30 PM, and 4:30 PM. He also
discovered that if people had something to eat or drink at 10, 2 and 4, the
energy slump could be avoided. Thus, Dr. Pepper challenged its advertising
agency to come up with a slogan to suggest that, if people drank a Dr.
Pepper at 10, 2 and 4, they would keep their energy level up and remain
bright and energetic throughout the day. The result was the primary theme of
the advertising on "10-2-4 Ranch," as beautifully "sold" by announcer Art
Gilmore in his commercials: Drink a bite to eat at 10, 2 and 4.

Harlan Zinck

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:32 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Classical singing [removed]

Joe Mackey commented that there are no classical singing commercials.
That's true, but there are some phony ones sung or composed by PDQ Bach /
Peter Schickele on some of his recordings.  I have one (on an LP) that was
sung by a countertenor at the barn studios of WOOF, located near the
University of Southern North Dakota in Hoople.  During this program one wall
of the barn is blown out, and we hear cows, chickens, etc.  I think the
commercial is for a cold remedy.

PDQ Bach, for those not in the mainstream of the esoteric reconstructions of
baroque music by Peter Schickele, is a composer of some note.  In one of his
programs, he offered the entire output of Antonio Vivaldi on 500 (?)
convenient 45 rpm records to anyone who could identify one of PDQ's
compositions.

It is my understanding that PDQ continues to compose and arrange concerts
and music festivals.  For all of that, I cannot verify that station WOOF is
still on the air.  Maybe someone from the Hoople area can verify that their
signal is still being broadcast.

Ted Kneebone.  OTR website:  [removed]
Democrats: [removed]
1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:47 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Harriet Hilliard, actress

Someone commented on the singing of Harriet Hilliard with her husband's
band, Ozzie Nelson.

I have a fine example of Harriet's acting on a Mutual Radio Theater show
entitled "Decent Christian Woman."  It's a shame that she didn't do more
radio acting.  What a beautiful, relaxing, gentle voice!
She plays a retired teacher whose ambition is to see the [removed]

Ted Kneebone.  OTR website:  [removed]
Democrats: [removed]
1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:53:57 -0500
From: "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RALSTON

     Can't say I remember ever eating it, but The Grocery Store I work at,
Fishers Foods of Canton, Ohio has had Ralston on the shelves for at least
the 14 1/2 years I have worked for them as a stocker/bagger.  Fishers is an
8-store regional chain in Canton/Stark County, Ohio.

Tim Lones

As an aside, It surprises me that they still mention Tom Mix and that
connection  to Ralston after all these years.

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:54:06 -0500
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  TV/Radio Promotions

Jim Taylor's question on Tv/Radio promotions

Jack Benny at the end of his program alway reminded listeners to watch his
TV show from his first show (10/28/50) until the radio program went to
broadcasting re-runs. The last new radio program was 5/22/55 . Jack was on
TV until 1965.

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:54:26 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Kellogg's Pep

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:56:19 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];

I must have eaten one of the last manufactured boxes of Pep in
general circulation.  It tasted precisely like what I used to eat
as a child, but a couple of decades plus later, my tastes had
changed.  While I thought it was pretty good as a child, as an
adult, I deemed the taste being a cross between Wheaties and
cardboard. The taste hadn't changed; *my* taste had.

If this was one of the last boxes, maybe it was several years old by
the time you tasted it.  That could make it taste like cardboard.

I never really liked Ovaltine.  I only used it because I sent to
Captain Midnight (TV version) for my Silver Dart Decoder Badge and
signed the Secret Squadron Pledge, which promised to have two glasses
of Ovaltine every day.  My main complaint was that it never seemed to
dissolve in the milk.  Why couldn't Captain Midnight have been
sponsored by Bosco or Nestle's Quick?

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:54:39 -0500
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Ozzie & Harriet

I'm sure how the Nelsons move in to situation comedy, but in 1941 Ozzie's
Orchestra provided the music for "The Red Skelton Show", with Harriet as the
vocalist. Harriet also played Clen Kaddidelhopper's girl friend, Daisy June.
and she was that "mean widdle
kid" Junior's mother.

Ozzie & Harriet were guests on a "Duffy's Tavern" 5/30/1944,. They appeared
on suspense 3 times I know of, and were guests on a Jack Benny show in 1949.
I have a "Victory Parade of Spotlight Bands" Ozzie Orchestra with Harriet,
from July of 1943, but the quality isn't very good. If I have it, a lot of
collectors must have it too.

In 1936-37 Ozzie's Orchestra was on Robrt Ripley's "Belive It or Not" and
also On Joe Penner's "Baker's Broadcast "for Fleischmann's Yeast in 1937.
Harriet was the vocalist .
On "Believe it or Not" Ozzie was the host.

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:55:20 -0500
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: 10-2-4

Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; wrote:

There was  a radio show from the early 1940's called," 6-2-4 Ranch"  or
Six-Two-Four Ranch"and was sponsored by Dr. Pepper.

I don't remember this one, but I do remember Dr. Pepper, so I figured
it was probably the 10-2-4 Ranch, since 10-2-4 was printed on their
bottle and used to be part of their slogan: "Drink a bite to eat at
10, 2 and 4." They were promoting the health benefits of the drink's
sugar content and the energy boost it provided at the times of day
when, supposedly, folks' reserves are most depleted. Hard to imagine
anyone pushing sugar as health food nowadays. Acoona found this site
(hope the digest list engine permits a couple of links):
[removed] I
don't know anything about the site; they seem to deal in OTR. Nice
graphics.

I also was reflecting on how much better I used to like Dr. Pepper. I
think the taste changed after Coke (I believe) introduced Mr. Pibb to
compete with it, and many seemed to prefer Mr. Pibb's sweeter, less
complex cherry flavor. I suspect Dr. Pepper was then changed to more
closely resemble Mr. Pibb. I had recently been expressing a wish that
I could find some of the original Dr. Pepper. Happily, on the
internet nothing is impossible; I also found a site advertising the
Original Formula Dr. Pepper, which I fully intend to try. It'll be
interesting to see how accurate my taste buds' memories are.
[removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:56:02 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cereals For Serials

Stuart Lubin notes,

When Steven A. Kallis, Jr. remarked about not being able to "down" Hot
Ralston as a kid, that brought back painful memories.

Well, I was actually quoting another Digester who had difficulty with the
Hot Ralston.  My objection to the product, such as it was, was that it
took more work to prepare than Shredded Ralston.  Shredded Ralston I
could prepare myself.  All it took was a bowl, a cereal box, milk, and
sugar.  Hot Ralston had to be boiled, and at the time, I was rather
clumsy in the kitchen.  I didn't prepare oatmeal in those days either,
for the same reason.

In the winter time, hot cereals were welcome.  As was hot Ovaltine.  In
part, because they were hot.  Back then, we didn't have thermostats, and
when we lived in Tacoma, the house had a coal furnace.

Cereals of the period I enjoyed were Kellogg's Pep, Rice Crispies,
Cheerios, and Shredded Ralston.  The only cereal of the time I didn't
like was Kix, which was like chewing on crushed rock.  But I even ate Kix
to get the Atomic Bomb Ring radio premium.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:30:02 -0500
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: six two and even

Thanks to all who commented on my question re six two and even. Jody Davis
is probably right about the phrase being from the Dick Tracy cartoon series
on TV. That would also explain why it is NOT familiar to me. (We didn't have
TV in those days.) I'll let my listener know. Thanks!

Barbara

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:15:23 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lum and Abner sites

   Corey Cook asked about sites with L&A shows.  Check out:
   [removed]
   Lots of them there.  :)
   Joe

--
Visit my homepage:
[removed]~[removed]

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:52:12 -0500
From: "John Southard" <jsouthard@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  That Strong Guy

I purchased a cd of OTR Hardboiled Detectives in MP3 from an internet
dealer. It contained all the old favorites, Philip Marlowe, Michael Shayne,
Jeff Regan, Barrie Craig, Mike Hammer (That Hammer Guy), etc. It also
contained a program called "That Strong Guy". It is a Private Investigator
show and the lead character is Steve Strong. This show is not listed in any
of the usual references, Dunning, Swarta, or Cox.  Does anyone know anything
about this show? Does anyone know who played the Fatman in Australia?

John Southard
jsouthard@[removed]

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