Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #376
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 12/7/2005 9:38 AM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 376
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      (A) Master's Voice                    [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Who are these people?                 [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      Cleaning OTR premiums                 [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      Re:A&A 1949 Thanxgiving show          [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Resistor codes - 1 last time          [ "kdkalit" <kdkalit@[removed]; ]
      The Care and Feeding of Radio Premiu  [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
      "The Big Show"/"Martin and Lewis"     [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      Gems From "Standby"                   [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
      Stan Freberg BBC documentary          [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      And Teenie, [removed]                    [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Gilbert Mack                          [ mschmid@[removed] ]
      More on Gil Mack                      [ mschmid@[removed] ]
      Steinway Duo-Art for sale             [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]
      12-7 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Re: Wally Cox                         [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Former Johnny Dollar Actors           [ mvcom446@[removed] ]
      when will we be on TV?                [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:02:18 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  (A) Master's Voice

    Dear Folks-

    As some of you know, I've been encouraging Arthur  Anderson to contribute to
    these esteemed pages. He's always interested in a  report of the doings here;
    he's mulling over the idea of an autobiography; and,  though he's not
    "computerized," he's an avid word processor. I've told him how  much we all
    enjoyed
    dear departed Harry Bartell's screeds. So, perhaps the essay  below moves
    several balls down the [removed]

    Stepping up to the OTRD mic,  Mr. [removed]!

    "December 3, 2005

    To Whom It May  Concern:

    Thanks for allowing a  non-internet user the privilege of your pages, via
    Craig Wichman.  Re the  future path of Friends of Old-Time Radio, as
    discussed on the OTR website:   I am not a fan, a collector or a hobbyist.
    I'm a performer, and have been,  in Radio as well as other places, since the
    age of twelve. I greatly enjoy  directing and performing in the re-creations
    at  Newark. With most of the original performers in that  Golden Age no
    longer with us, we're constantly finding new talent for our  re-creations, as
    indeed we must.

    Let me point not only to Will Hutchins,  Craig Wichman and Kevin Scullin -
    how about Simon Jones, Larry Conroy, Christina  Britton Conroy and Jeff
    David, and from the West Coast Dave  Parker.

    As FOTR directors and producers keep on  finding more classic shows from that
    Golden Age, we have to emphasize the shows  themselves, until our public
    realizes that the acting talent is still there, to  give them their original
    excitement.

    But let's face  it - we also need the name value of a few television
    performers to bring people  in.  These people of course have talent too, and
    we will cast them, as much  as possible, in RADIO roles.  As I was quoted as
    saying in that Wall Street  Journal article (Oct. 21):  if it ever becomes
    Friends of Old-Time  Television, I'm out of there.  But there is no reason we
    can't have fun  with the mixture we now have, as long as it is not tilted too
    sharply to video.

    With love to all,
    Arthur Anderson

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:03:54 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Who are these people?

    I have another batch of autographs I can't read.  Some of them may be OTR
    people (pages from old autograph books), and I'm hoping some of our vast
    membership can identify some of them.  They are posted on my web site:
     [removed]
    Click on the Mystery Autographs link.  Thanks!

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:04:12 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cleaning OTR premiums

    Dixon wonders why anyone would NOT clean a Tom Mix badge, citing an
    example of a toy car being cleaned up to increase its value.

    The difference is that one is a machine with moving parts, the other a
    flat piece of metal.  Any coin collector will tell you that shining up an
    old coin totally destroys its value, and the same is probably true for
    collectible badges.  Whereas a machine with moving parts can be restored
    and most (probably not all) collectors would pay a premium price, I'm
    afraid a decoder wheel or badge or other item with non-moving parts would
    lose value if subjected to a cleaning.

    ---Dan, [removed] (spiffy home page)

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:04:21 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re:A&A 1949 Thanxgiving show

    On 12/6/05 11:02 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>      Does anyone know the correct date for the 1949 Thanksgiving show?

    Jerry's log, which is based on mine, is correct. "Thanksgiving Show" (the
    actual title that appears on the script) was the seventh program of the
    seventh season, and aired on 11/13/49.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:09:59 -0500
    From: "kdkalit" <kdkalit@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Resistor codes - 1 last time

    Bill H Wrote:

>     We are beating this subject to death so lets get it correct before we
>     bury [removed]

    <snip>

>     Black (0),  Brown (1),  Red (2),  Orange (3),  Yellow (4), Green (5),
>     Blue (6), Violent (7), Gray (8) White (9).
>     Silver and Gold bands indicate precision tolerance.

    Hopefully, this ends it:

    There are actually 4 color bands to a resistor as Bill H says.  The  4th
    band is a tolerance color band code located after the 3 resistance color
    bands and is represented after "White" in the aid by "Get Some Now" as in:
    Get = Gold =5%; "Some" = Silver =10%; "Now" = no color band = 20%
    tolerances.

    I think I read somewhere that since I learned this some 40 years ago, there
    are additional colors for other tolerances, but I could be mistaken.

    So we have: BBROYGBVGW GSN
    Ken

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Yep, this ends it alright, as I am tired of spam filters
    rejecting the Digest because of the insessant use of the word used to
    represent "R." If anyone else feels the pressing need to know the resistor
    code, check the resistor packs at your local Radio Shack.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:09:29 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Care and Feeding of Radio Premiums, etc.

    Dixon Hayes, commenting on my story of a person who was highly incensed
    when I suggested that his highly corroded brass radio premium would be
    improved significantly if it had been polished, notes,

>     I saw a recent "Antiques Roadshow" in which a man showed off a 1905 toy
>     limosine he had found in an attic.  The expert said it was worth about
>     $500 in its current condition but restoring it would boost the value as
>     high as ten times the amount.  <snip>  I don't see why polishing a Tom
>     Mix badge (or whatever it was) would do anything other than increase the
>     worth, unless the seller is overly sentimental about the crud for
>     whatever weird reason.

    Many brass premiums of the time were "flashed" with a molucules-thick
    coating of gold, and naturally, polishing would remove that.  But,
    assuming that the corrosion started from a mint premium, it had so bad a
    coating that any flashing was long gone, anyway.

    My family, while I was growing up, was an Army family, and I learned
    about effective metal polishes fairly early on, and kept my Code-O-Graphs
    and other metallic premiums gleaming as long as I owned them (with one
    exception: the Sky King Spy-Detecto Writer with the aluminum case; this
    wouldn't take conventional polishes at the time).  I do the same with my
    current collection whenever corrosion develops.

    However, I acquired a piece of aluminum-based cryptological equipment
    (for the curious, an M-94/CSP 488 cipher device).  It had led an exciting
    existence, and showed it.  When I mentioned that I was thinking of
    polishing it to a cryptological equipment collector, he reacted, though
    not as vehemently, as did the guy with the extremely corroded brass
    premium.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:02:20 -0500
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "The Big Show"/"Martin and Lewis"
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            I just listened to a tape of "The Big Show" which I received
    recently.
    I must say that I really enjoyed it!  Tallulah bankhead was great as the
    hostess of the program.

            There's a book in stores now titled, "Dean and Me" by Jerry Lewis.
    It chronicles their time together from their days performing in various
    clubs,
    their radio show ("Martin and Lewis") and even "My Friend Irma", movies,
    and television.  It is frank and sincere in its tone and there's no acrimony
    at all while Jerry tells what happened along the way to their successful
    careers, both together and apart.

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:37:01 -0500
    From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gems From "Standby"

    "Stand By," a weekly magazine published by WLS, Chicago, ran from 1935 to
    1938. It not only reported on the activities and programs of WLS and its
    staff, it also ran items about the radio world in general. I've been
    assembling a collection of "Stand By" and am enjoying the tidbits. As the
    [removed]

    "Lum and Abner are superstitious in many ways. [removed] hands a salt shaker
    to Abner. He merely sets it down in front of Abner and lets him pick it up
    himself. When driving in the country, both comics watch for white horses and
    promptly seal their good fortune by hitting the open palm of the left hand
    with the right fist. 'We're not 100 per cent superstitious,' claims Lum. 'We
    just haven't quite enough nerve to defy the old beliefs that date back to
    childhood in Arkansas.'" -JAN 22, 1938

    "Arthur Peterson, who plays the leading role of Dr. Ruthledge in NBC's
    five-day-a-week serial, the Guiding Light, went to New York City with his
    wife to get his first glimpse of the ocean."  --FEB 5, 1938

    "Dr. Allen Ray Dafoe holds a close second to the photographic record set by
    his famous charges, the quins (sic). Dr. Dafoe is probably the most
    photographed doctor in the world. His face is known everywhere, and his
    voice is one of the most familiar in the United States and Canada through
    his thrice-weekly broadcasts over CBS." -FEB 5, 1938

    BILL KNOWLTON

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:47:50 -0500
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Stan Freberg BBC documentary

    The BBC show "Mark Thomas Presents" will be having a look at Stan
    Freberg on Wednesday this week:

    [removed]

    Presumably you can catch this through the "listen again" feature.

    The following week Thomas will be looking at the Firesign Theater:

    [removed]

    These are the first two of four shows looking at iconic American
    comedians. The other two are Mort Sahl and Shelley Berman (see
    [removed]
    for details). Not sure when the last two shows will air.

    Kermyt

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:19:21 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  And Teenie, [removed]

    Dear Folks-

    Can anyone send a good scan  of the back cover of the 40's 78rpm set "Fibber
    McGee and Molly on the Night  Before Christmas?"

    Or, a transcript of the text & credits  there?

    Merry merry,
    -Craig

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    Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:20:01 -0500
    From: mschmid@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gilbert Mack

    I received a call from a listener who informed me that Gilbert Mack
    passed away
    on Monday December 05. His friend relates that he was an active volunteer at
    St. John's Hospital and Temple Israel in Lawrence (Long Island, NY). His wife,
    also a performer in OTR, died last year, and there are apparently no surviving
    children.
    He was 95 or 96 years old.

    Who can forget his appearances at FOTR, not only acting, but also dazzling the
    crowd with his ukelele and songs?

    I will try to find one of his radio shows for Sunday's broadcast, and
    will post
    more details if I get them.

    Max Schmid - Producer
    Golden Age of Radio-WBAI-NY
    [removed] FM and on the web at [removed]

    Outside of the NYC area you can listen to the live stream on Sunday
    nights at 7
    pm, or catch each broadcast for up to two weeks at our archive
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:33:21 -0500
    From: mschmid@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  More on Gil Mack

    I spoke to his Rabbi - a memorial service will be part of the Friday night
    service at Temple Israel on Long Island: [removed]

    Gilbert got his start in Yiddish Theater and vaudeville - must be where he
    picked up the uke.

    According to Arthur Anderson, Gil was 93. His niece is Gwen Davies, an
    original
    Let's Pretender.

    Among his many existing radio appearances (culled from the radioGoldindex) are
    the classic Grand Central Station Christmas episode with Mason Adams,
    dozens of
    CBS Mystery Theater shows, many episodes of This Is My Story and The Eternal
    Light, Secret Missions, Yours Truly Johnny Dollar, Suspense, Bobby Benson, Tom
    Corbett, Inner Sanctum, Words At War, Arch Oboler's Plays, 2000 Plus, and The
    Inner Sanctum.

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    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:33:48 -0500
    From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Steinway Duo-Art for sale

    This is off-topic but I know several readers here responded when I mused some
    months back that I was thinking of selling our 6'1" grand.  When it sells, we
    will be seeking a decent Duo-Art upright to fit in our smaller space.  If
    interested or can help, please contact me off-list.  I have full details.
    Many thanks!

    Good to see so many of our friends at FOTR.  Thanks for all the good wshes
    and recognition for Charlotte and me!

    Merry Christmas to all and best wishes for a Merry Christmas, all the
    holydays, and a happy, healthful New Year!
    Lee Munsick

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    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:33:56 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  12-7 births/deaths

    December 7th births

    12-07-1879 - Rudolf Friml - Prague, Bohemia - d. 11-12-1972
    operetta composer: "Railroad Hour"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
    12-07-1892 - Fay Bainter - Los Angeles, CA,  - d. 4-16-1968
    actress: "Nobody's Children"; "Cavalcade of America"
    12-07-1904 - Bob Brown - New York, NY - d. xx-xx-1980
    announcer: "Vic and Sade"; "Quicksilver"; "This Amazing America"
    12-07-1905 - Charles Magnante - d. 12-xx-1986
    accordionist: "Major Bowes Capitol Family"; "Singin' Sam"; "Tony and Gus"
    12-07-1906 - Fred Stewart - Atlanta, GA - d. 12-5-1970
    actor: "The Columbia Workshop"
    12-07-1909 - Arch Oboler - Chicago, IL - d. 3-19-1987
    writer: 'Lights Out"; "Adam and Eve skit on Bergen/McCarthy"
    12-07-1910 - Rod Cameron - Calgary, Alberta, Canada - d. 12-21-1983
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
    12-07-1912 - Louis Prima - New Orleans,LA - d. 8-24-1978
    jazz trumpeter: "You Can't Have Everything"; "Songs by Sinatra"; "The Navy
    Swings"
    12-07-1915 - Eli Wallach - Brooklyn, NY
    actor: "Eternal Light"
    12-07-1918 - Hurd Hatfield - New York, NY . d. 12-25-1998
    actor: "Best Plays"; "Crime Does Not Pay"
    12-07-1920 - Frances Gifford - Long Beach, CA - d. 1-22-1994
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"

    December 7th deaths

    02-27-1910 - Joan Bennett - Palisades, NJ - d. 12-7-1990
    actress: "Ford Theatre"; "MGM Theatre of the Air"; "Skippy Hollywood Theatre"
    03-25-1919 - Jeanne Cagney - New York, NY - d. 12-7-1984
    actress: (Sister of James Cagney) "Movietone Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"
    04-01-1884 - Laurette Taylor - New York, NY - d. 12-7-1946
    actress: "The Everedy Hour"
    04-17-1897 - Thornton Wilder - Madison, WI - d. 12-7-1975
    writer: "This Is My Best"
    06-07-1891 - Alois Havrilla - Pressov, Hungary - d. 12-7-1952
    announcer: "Campbell Soup Orchestra"; "Jack Benny Program"
    06-23-1914 - Nat Hiken - Chicago, IL - d. 12-7-1968
    creator, director, writer: "Magnificent Montague"; "Texaco Star Theatre"
    07-04-1883 - Rube Goldberg - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-7-1970
    cartoonist: "Famous Comic Artists"; "The Shell Show"; "Biography in Sound"
    07-12-1895 - Kirsten Flagstad - Hamar, Norway - d. 12-7-1962
    opera singer: "General Motors Concerts"; "Metropolitan Opera"
    08-07-1904 - Dr. Ralph Bunche - Detroit, MI - d. 12-7-1971
    activist: "The Big Show"
    12-15-1901 - Gail Bonney - Columbus, OH - d. 12-7-1984
    actress: "Family Theatre"; "Joan Davis Time"; "NBC University Theatre"
    xx-xx-1911 - Jerry Scoggins - Mount Pleasant, TX - d. 12-7-2004
    singer: (Member of the Cass County Boys) "Gene Autry's Melody Ranch"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:12:00 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:22:00 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Wally Cox
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>     12-06-1924 - Wally Cox - Detroit, MI - d. 2-15-1973
>     comedian: "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Wally Cox Show"

    Does anyone have any more info on "The Wally Cox Show," format, sponsor, when
    it ran, episode availability, [removed]

    Dixon

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    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:22:33 -0500
    From: mvcom446@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Former Johnny Dollar Actors
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    Hi Everyone,

    I am a long time member of this list from the early mid 1990's, but I mostly
    lurk, soaking up all the fantastic bits of info that one finds on this list
    daily. But I do have two  questions I hope someone on the list can answer for
    me off list.

     I was wondering if Mandell Kramer is still living, and if so where he might
    be contacted. I know he continued doing radio well past the prime of OTR
    doing radio in the New York area and even showed up on Hi Brown's later
    programs, but haven't heard anything about him for the last several years.

    I was told that he never did OTR conventions and was wondering if that was
    because he was never invited or because he didn't want to be involved with
    conventions extolling his past.

    I'm also interested in Bob Readick. If he is still alive, where might he be
    contacted.

    Thanks for any help you can give me. I apologize beforehand if this has been
    answered earlier on the list.
    Michael

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    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:28:03 -0500
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  when will we be on TV?

    Though just thinking about the advent of television causes pain to many of
    us (Kathy O'Connell once said that her KidsAmerica show was 'far too
    advanced' for TV) it seems to me that TV was anticipated for much, if not
    all, of the Golden Age of Radio.

    I was surprised to hear it mentioned on several shows, but I don't recall
    which ones.  Does anyone know when TV, or the possibility of TV, mentioned
    on radio shows?

    M Kinsler

    Ms O'Connell once said that her favorite age of radio was the Bronze (if I
    haven't messed up the quote.)

    512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
    [removed]

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