Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #27
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Date: 1/26/2002 9:03 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 27
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: The appeal of OLD TIME RADIO      [ "Knaggs, Jim" <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      Mary Rhinehart                        [ Jim Murtaugh <JimM@[removed]; ]
      Phil Harris and Alice Faye            [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      who he?                               [ "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed]; ]
      Sherlock Holmes New & Old + Goon Sho  [ "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed]; ]
      Jack and Mary's marriage              [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      products                              [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Ed Asner                              [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      OTR video                             [ Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu ]

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:44:27 -0500
    From: "Knaggs, Jim" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: The appeal of OLD TIME RADIO

    In regard to Bryan's post on OTR's appeal, I could not agree more.  I think
    quality, the "theater of the mind" experience, and historical value are all
    key ingredients in OTR's continuing attraction.  I especially enjoy programs
    such as Suspense and Dimension X in terms of their entertainment value.
    However, there is an added fascination for me that really sets radio apart.
    OTR is the closest thing to a time machine that any of us will ever
    experience.  Think of this.  Turn on your favorite OTR program, close your
    eyes (this step is important--no peeking at your computer, MP3 player or
    state of the art stereo), and you are experiencing essentially exactly the
    same thing (assuming you have a decent quality broadcast with commercials)
    that a person listening to that program was experiencing when they listened
    to it first run in the 30s, 40s, 50s, etc.

    Because of its visual nature, early television does not provide the same
    experience.  You might watch repeats of Jack Benny's program but you very
    likely will be doing it on something akin to a modern 32 inch widescreen TV
    that does not exactly give the illusion of a 1950s Philco.

    Being fairly new to this hobby, on a related topic, I would be curious the
    thoughts of some longtime hobbyists on the following.  Is the OTR hobby
    currently at its peak to date?  Was interest as great in the 70s, 80s, early
    90s as it is today?  Do you feel that the internet has been a boon or
    negative to the hobby?  Personally, I think the internet is a plus but that
    is just my opinion.

    Happy listening,

    Jim Knaggs

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:30:26 -0500
    From: Jim Murtaugh <JimM@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Mary Rhinehart

    			In answer to Martin Grams query about Mary
    Rhinehart, there was an author in the early part of the 20th century by the
    name of Mary Roberts Rhinehart.  One book that I am familiar with is "The
    Bat", something I read in high school.  Hope this helps.

    			Jim Murtaugh

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:05:57 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Phil Harris and Alice Faye

    I've been listening to a lot of Phil Harris shows, and I wonder if others
    feel as I do:  the shows from 1951 and prior are hilarious; the shows
    from 1953 and later are horrible.  Remley has become Elliott (think I
    heard somewhere the real Remley threatened a lawsuit?), and the writing
    is embarassingly amateurish.  Why did they change writers???

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:57:01 -0500
    From: "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: who he?

    Jimmy Jemail was, for a time at least, the New York Daily News' Inquiring
    Photographer.  No douibt he had other duties around 220 East 42nd Street.

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:59:23 -0500
    From: "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Sherlock Holmes New & Old + Goon Shows Found !

    Fans of Sherlock Holmes will know of the Clive Merrison - Michael Williams
    radio series 1988-98 which is the only one of the whole Conan Doyle canon of
    56 short & 4 long stories, with the same lead actors. Most were dramatised
    for radio by Bert Coules, who did a pretty good job. Coules has succumbed to
    pressure and has written five pastiches to be broadcast over the next few
    weeks on Wednesday afternoons on BBC Radio 4 at [removed] UK time. Following
    Michael Williams' death last year Dr. John Watson is played by Andrew Sachs
    (Father Brown, Manuel from Fawlty Towers etc) to Merrison's Holmes.
    (Williams' widow is Dame Judi Dench.) I'm looking forward to these as much
    if not more than the newly-found Goon Shows. The first is "Col. Warburton's
    Madness" which was also pastiched by Boucher & Green for Rathbone & Bruce in
    the 40s.

    There have been a few mentions of recreated moments of history for radio
    programmes recently. Did you know that several of Winston Churchill's famous
    wartime speeches were actually performed by actor Normal Shelley, famous
    years later as Dr. Watson in the Carleton Hobbs Sherlock Holmes series in
    the 50s & 60s.

    I mentioned newly-found Goon Shows earlier and report the following news
    item from the Goon Show Preservation Society:

    "Goon Shows Found!!!!

     Yes folks, you have read it right. The discs pictured alongside were, after
    a long and arduous road (the M1 to be exact) obtained by the GSPS for
    preservation and restoration. Initial work has identified the shows as
    coming from the latter end of the 4th series (1954), with others from the
    5th and 6th seasons. Originally recorded off air in the 1950s (onto tape, we
    think) and then transferred to 10" discs, they have stood the test of time
    remarkably well, and we have to thank a Mr Harvey, a devotee of jazz and the
    Goon Show, for not only getting hold of these recordings for his, and the
    rest in a jazz clubs, pleasure, but keeping them so well over the years.

    Initial work indicates that a whole run of shows from January 1954 were
    recorded, and, as any Goon Fan will immediately spot, several hitherto lost
    shows are amongst the find. The run is in no way complete, but there are now
    original recordings of several of what later became the Vintage Goons
    series, and also two shows that were never remade: The Toothpaste
    Expedition, and Western Story and there is also a complete edition of Forog.
    The importance of this find is immense and the day that they were collected
    will certainly remain in my memory forever.

    But before we all get carried away, it is certainly going to be a long time
    before they are in any state to be made available, so to make it perfectly
    clear THERE WILL BE NO COPIES OF THESE DISCS AVAILABLE UNTIL RESTORATION AND
    PRESERVATION IS COMPLETE."

    So that's something to look forward to in due course!

    Regards to all from England
    Phil

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:44:36 -0500
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Jack and Mary's marriage

    Small [removed] Kubelsky (aka Jack Benny) and Sadye Marks (aka
    Mary Livingstone) were married on January 14, 1927 in the Clayton Hotel in
    Waukegan, Illinois. It was attended by Jack's father (his mother had passed
    away by then), Jack's sister Florence, Mary's sister Babe and her husband, Al
    Bernovici, Jack's longtime friend Julius Sinykin, Assistant State's Attorney
    Sidney Bloch, and Rabbi Farber.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:44:58 -0500
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: products

    Is any one aware of a companies who sells products that are hard to find
    today that wore sponsors of many of the radio shows from the golden days.  I
    imagine some company is still making candy,  soda pop, and other products in
    small quantities today.  You can email me off list if you would like, take
    care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:58:42 -0500
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Ed Asner

    An interview with Ed Asner will be played this Sunday on YUSA.  Ed talks
    about his radio days in Chicago in the 1940s, and in New York in 1950s.
    Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:08:58 -0500
    From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: OTR video

    Rodney writes:

    "Subject: Good Old Days Of Radio video.  Though I certainly don't want to
    take any business from Boston Pete, you can get this video from the fine
    people at Finders Keepers for $[removed]"

    Likewise, I don't want to take any business from Finders Keepers, which I
    have patronized, but that site charges $[removed] for postage while Boston Pete
    has free shipping. Thus the total at Finders Keepers is $11 while at Boston
    Pete (whom I don't work for) it's $[removed] Much ado over a dollar and a nickel!
    Cheers.

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Ok, I think they have both received enough free publicity to
    last a long while.  --cfs3]

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