Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #140
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Date: 5/6/2005 9:27 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 140
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  HELP!                                 [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
  John Barleycorn-more & Awesome Swell  [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  the other side of it all              [ <cooldown3@[removed]; ]
  Re: The Golden Age of Radio           [ Steve Lewis <stevelewis62@[removed]; ]
  LOC Copying                           [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  Re: brick mush?                       [ "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed]; ]
  Nemesis of Superman                   [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  BPL Fred Allen Collection             [ Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon. ]
  Fred Allen collection                 [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  You Bet Your Life                     [ "David Ballarotto" <balla@earthlink ]
  Least Favorite Radio Programs         [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  ANNCRS AUDITIONS                      [ Dave Parker <dave@[removed] ]
  Re: LOC et Copyright                  [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
  William Conrad's Range                [ "Mike Kerezman" <MKEREZMAN@peoplepc ]
  Audition programs & Batman            [ davesline@[removed] ]
  Whoops                                [ davesline@[removed] ]

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:05:37 -0400
From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  HELP!
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Hi!

A little over a month [removed] posted a question about trying to obtain a
decent working 4-Track stereo tape deck which had the slower speeds ([removed]
and possibly [removed]) to play more than 600 tapes---filled with classic radio
shows.

Although I received some good suggestions along with a few personal emails,
I'm still trying to find a deck that will accomodate tapes recorded in the 1/4
track mono format.  As most OTR collectors [removed] speed, a solid
transport unit, and [removed] good playback [removed] is essential to
hearing these.  A worn out head will only make a poorly recorded audiotape
sound muddy.

So I'd like to ask for your HELP a 2nd [removed] possibly acquire another
deck.  From one who has been an OTR collector since [removed]'s pretty
frustrating when there are more than 6000 shows in your [removed] you
can't play any of them!  [[removed] turntable still works!].

Thanks so much for your help.

Gary Dixon
gary@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:22 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  John Barleycorn-more & Awesome Swells

Dear John, & fellow worshipers at the altar of Thespis-

From:  John Mayer _mayer@[removed]_ (mailto:mayer@[removed]) "

"Would you have me
subsist entirely on  food and attain the gargantuan proportions of an
Orson Welles?" Both amusing  and prescient."

Amusing- perhaps; prescient, perhaps [removed]
As Himself  admitted, he ALWAYS fought the battle of the bulge; and from KANE
on, was  costumed, made up, and begirdled to hide the fact.

Best,
-Craig

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:07:39 -0400
From: <cooldown3@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  the other side of it all

As an author, I have to say I  appreciate what the Congress has done. Under
the old laws, my works would be  in the public domain very [removed]
I've made precious little royalties  on a novel that took me years to
create as it is.

I realise I am among a list of respected published authors and at least one
publishing company.

Having said that, the change in copyright law has only helped to speak to
the needs of the narrow segment above, and not to the rest of the
population.

originally, in return for highly protected and strongly enforced rights,
content creators were required to release these things to public domain, FOR
PUBLIC GOOD and use.

There are possibilities for others to enjoy or even to priofit from older
works, and so the entire 'chain' has some access.

If things are suddenly swept back into perpetual ownership, for creators
rights, then the general public has lost some of it's previously held
rights.

Law is for the entire population as opposed to a small segment, and all
needs should be looked at.

And no, I do not think Sonny Bono was an impartial arbiter of these issues.

Cheers,
Patrick

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:08:26 -0400
From: Steve Lewis <stevelewis62@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: The Golden Age of Radio

If anyone else has copies of the Golden Age of Radio please
let Dick or me know.  We are looking, first of all, for a better
quality copy of Tony Marvin.  We would also like to find a copy
of "Vincent Price" and "Joan Fontaine" which we remember
doing.  Anything else not listed on the website would also be
greatly appreciated.
--
Bob Scherago

Bob

I'm the Steve Lewis who was occasionally credited at the end of some of the
WTIC Golden Age of Radio shows.  When Ed Corcoran's collection couldn't
supply enough programs to choose excerpts from, he called on me to see what
I had.

It wasn't always easy, since WTIC never promoted the program very well, but
I taped many of them off the air.  I don't know what condition the
reel-to-reel tapes are now -- I haven't listened to any of them for a long
time -- but I definitely have the following

Vincent Price 11-24-72
Hans Conreid 8-23-71
Tony Marvin 6-28-73
Joan Fontaine 5-29-75

plus many others, from the first one through 2-27-77 "Horror shows".  I'm
missing some, I know, since I wasn't always home to to turn on the tape
machine, or -- more likely -- I didn't know when the program was on.

                                         Best

                                          Steve

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:08:37 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  LOC Copying

Copying at the Library of Congress is very restricted.  You need to show that
you are the rightful
copyright owner or bring permission from the copyright owner.  I know because
I went to the LOC to
view some music written by grandfather in 1917.   I was thrilled to see that
they had originals in
his own pen.   But getting them to let me copy them wasn't easy.   They
basically bent the rules a
little when I showed them my driver's license with his last name.

You might have an easier time if the item was clearly in the public domain.

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:09:14 -0400
From: "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: brick mush?

From: "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed];

Several Vic and Sade episodes contain references to a brick-mush man who
delivers brick-mush. What the heck is brick-mush? Is it a real substance,
or
something out of Dismal Seepage, Ohio?

Yes, brick mush is real - and tasty!  It's cooked corn meal (sorta like
Cream of Wheat, but yellow) that is poured into a rectangular pan and
cooled.  Pan would be about the size of a small loaf of bread.  The cereal
"gels" as it cools, and is usually sliced about 5/8" thick, floured, then
fried in butter.

With the addition of cheese, it's known as polenta.

Candy

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:09:27 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Nemesis of Superman

     Does anyone know whether there was ever any
other nemesis for Superman to battle in any available
collections of "The Adventures of Superman"? The
only one I ever heard of was Atom Man (played by the
late Mason Adams). Didn't he have more than one?
In the comic book series, he battled Lex Luthor on
a regular basis, yet I never heard any programs with
Luthor from OTR. Were there any?

Another OTR Fan,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:09:57 -0400
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  BPL Fred Allen Collection

 > I am a collector who wonders what the position of the Boston Public
 > Library on it's Fred Allen collection in light of the bequest
 > conditions of Fred/Portland.

The complete Fred Allen collection at the BPL is available to serious
researchers with credentials.  Some of the collection is periodically
displayed. The NBC master tapes which were donated to library by
Portland have been  recorded to newer media and are available for
listening only in the BPL Listening Room.  No copies may be made; none
are sold.  These do not include the years Fred was on CBS.

-- Alan Chapman

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:10:19 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fred Allen collection

Patrick writes:

I am a collector who wonders what the position of the Boston  Public Library
on it's Fred Allen collection in light of the bequest  conditions of
Fred/Portland.
Is the library actively recruiting  for a second tea party?

You can view any and all of the Fred Allen collection there at the Boston
Public Library in the Special Collections division.  I've done some  extensive
research (and even made several corrections) with it.  The staff  there is
absolutely great and I've made several personal friends in the  process.

As far as releasing it publicly, there has been a good bit of  interest and
discussion about it.  There were some questions about  copyright, and I have
given them a lot of information and a legal contact for  further
consultation.
Unfortunately with the current state of funding,  it's not one of their top
priorities.

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:29:14 -0400
From: "David Ballarotto" <balla@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  You Bet Your Life

Since there are so many knowledgeable people here, can anyone explain
exactly when "You Bet Your Life" stopped producing a radio version?  In
"The Secret Word is Groucho," Marx says they stopped doing a radio show in
1957, and Dunning's book gives a final radio air date of 1956.  Yet many of
the shows I've listened to lately are radio versions of later year episodes
of "You Bet Your Life," with commercials for the 1960 Rambler, and so on.
And the first episodes I'd heard in the 1980s on "The Golden Age of Radio
Theater" were post-57 as well, based on the game play and so on.  You have
to assume Groucho knew what he was talking about when the radio show ended,
so did they later on decide to resurrect the radio feed?
 Also, if you listened to the radio version of the episode on Wednesday,
was the next night on television the video version of that episode, or
would you see the game with those contestants at some other point?

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:12:24 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Least Favorite Radio Programs

Have you ever given thought to what your least favorite radio programs
are? Those programs that you won't listen to let alone collect, those
program that you purged from your collection because you felt that they
just didn't belong there, those programs that sometimes made you
wonder, what is so great about Olde Tyme Radio? I know that there is no
accounting for individual tastes and my least favorites will appear on
many most favorite lists. For better or worse, here are my five least
favorite radio programs.

5. "The Jack Benny Program" pre the return of Dennis Day from the Navy.
The show didn't really gel, jello?, until the return of Dennis after
the war.
4. "Easy Aces." No story, no sound effects, just two people talking.
3. "Lum and Abner." No story, no sound effects, just two people talking.
2. "Vic and Sade." No story, no sound effects, just three people
talking.
1. For the people that know me my selection for the worst program all
time will come as no surprise. "Amos 'n' Andy." This is without a doubt
the worst radio program that I have ever listened to, it makes me
cringe. I have only one in my collection and that is there to remind
me, not all Olde Tyme Radio was good.

Agree, disagree?

Ron Sayles

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:18:54 -0400
From: Dave Parker <dave@[removed];
To: OLD TIME RADIO <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  ANNCRS AUDITIONS

I'm starting a serious segment on  radio announcers in "REMEMBERING
RADIO" my video documentary on OTR, and I'd love to get the wording
of any "audition copy" used to separate the pros from the amateurs
back in the old [removed] what I've heard, the networks had some
really daunting stuff--saturated with tongue twisters and references
to classical music.

Can anyone help???  Thanks in advance.

					dave parker

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:56:42 -0400
From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: LOC et Copyright

From: Brent Pellegrini  asked:

Anyone know how the LOC feels about copy machines and
copying pages froma book?

The LOC has many copy machines for patron use. When I was there
researching the NBC chimes, I was handed a folder full of NBC memos and
notes and told to copy anything I wished as long as I was using it for
my research. Same rule applies at the LOC as does at your local library
regarding copying copyrighted  material.

Bill H.

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:56:47 -0400
From: "Mike Kerezman" <MKEREZMAN@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  William Conrad's Range

I have always impressed with William Conrad's vocal range on radio from
Gunsmoke to heavies on Sam Spade and Nightbeat to Southern lisp spoken Jake
Mourner character on the Escape show "Snake Doctor". However, I was
pleasantly surprised the other day when listening to the Suspense "The Case
against Loo Dock" starring Jeff Chandler where Mr. Conrad turns up as
Chinese ascented Tong Wong crime figure. I then remembered previously
hearing him on another Escape show doing a Soviet Russian ascented offical
as well as Mexican dialects. I was wondering how difficult this type of
acting was to master.

Mike Kerezman
Macomb, Ok

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:57:46 -0400
From: davesline@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Audition programs & Batman
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I beg to differ with Craig over the comment he made that the "Batman Mystery
Club" is really OTR. If it was indeed an audition program for a possible
series, as Martin Grams suggests. Then it is (in my humble opinion) in the
realm on OTR history and I think it is a fairly large part, for we, as a
people, are as much a people by what we reject as by what we watch. Public
opinion probably more closely dictated the content of the radio schedule (in
1950) than it does the public media now. I for one would love to see this and
other audition programs included in (for instance) the Radio Archives of
Spokane, Washington collection, or some other low cost or free trading group
so that this kind of program (and information about it) is available to all.
One of the reasons I recommend Radio Archives (I have no connection with them
except as a very satisfied customer) is they also always provide a lot of
information about their programs.
I enjoy the dialog within this group and the ability we had to agree to
disagree in friendship. Best wishes Dave Palmer

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:58:08 -0400
From: davesline@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Whoops
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I'm sorry I blamed Craig for the comment about the "Bateman Mystery Club".
Sorry Craig yours was below it and I read them together. (Senior moment?).
The comment was actually made by Lloyd Harradan, the message from the day
before (Which I had not read yet). Thanks for the heads up Charlie.
Dave Palmer

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