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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2011 : Issue 12
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      2010 Deaths                           [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Green Hornet [removed]                 [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      Flo Gibson and New York Times use of  [ George Tirebiter <tirebiter2@hotmai ]
      Fran Striker gets no credit           [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Audiences liking GH more than the cr  [ Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:56:02 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  2010 Deaths

    Those who died in 2010

    09-17-1943 - Beverly Aadland - Hollywood, CA - d. 1-5-2010
    actor: "Whatever Became of . . ."
    08-28-1917 - Jayne Walton - San Antonio, TX - d. 1-10-2010
    singer: (Champagne Lady) "Lawrence Welk and His Orchestra"
    02-21-1920 - Shirley Bell - Chicago, IL - d. 1-12-2010
    actor: Little Orphan Annie "Little Orphan Annie"; Patsy Donovan
    "Captain Midnight"
    03-15-1927 - Carl Smith - Maynardville, TN - d. 1-16-2010
    country singer: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Cas Walker's Radio Show"
    01-31-1929 - Jean Simmons - London, England - d. 1-22-2010
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "A Christmas Carol"
    11-26-1915 - Earl Wild - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-23-2010
    pianist: KDKA Pittsburgh; "NBC Symphony Orchestra"
    10-31-1915 - Jane Jarvis - Vincennes, IN - d. 1-25-2010
    organist: Staff organist for WTMJ Milwaukee; Organist for Milwaukee
    Braves
    10-17-1907 - Helen Choate - Boston, MA - d. 1-28-2010
    actor: Patsy Bowen "Nick Carter, Master Detective"
    03-01-1914 - Aaron Ruben - Chicago, IL - d. 1-30-2010
    writer: "The Milton Berle Show"
    02-05-1908 - Aleen Leslie - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 2-2-2010
    created "A Date with Judy"
    12-09-1914 - Frances Reid - Wichita Falls, TX - d. 2-3-2010
    actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
    06-18-1920 - Ian Carmichael - Hull, Yorkshire, England - d. 2-5-2010
    actor: Lord Peter Wimsey "Five Red Herrings" and other Sayers stories
    05-09-1920 - William Tenn (Phil Klass) - London, England - d. 2-7-2010
    science fiction writer: Works adapted for "X Minus One"; "Dimension X"
    03-21-1922 - Bonnie Papple - St. Paul, MN - d. 2-11-2010
    singer: "The Gateway to Hollywood"
    04-09-1920 - Art Van Damme - Norway, MI - d. 2-15-2010
    jazz accordionist: (Art Van Damme Quintet) "Dave Garroway Show"
    04-21-1933 - Jim Harmon - Mount Carmel, IL - d. 2-16-2010
    author: "The Great Radio Heroes"
    02-09-1922 - Kathryn Grayson - Winston-Salem, NC - d. 2-17-2010
    singer: "Mail Call"
    06-10-1926 - Lionel Jeffries - London, England - d. 2-19-2010
    actor: "The Box of Delights"
    02-24-1923 - David Soyer - Philadelphia, PA - d. 2-25-2010
    cellist: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"; "Guauner Quartet"
    05-11-1915 - Nathan Scott - Salinas, CA - d. 2-27-2010
    composer: "The Log of the Black Parrot"; "Mail Call"
    08-31-1930 - Big Tiny Little - Worthington, MN - d. 3-3-2010
    piano player: "The Lawrence Welk Show"
    07-15-1927 - Nan Martin - Decatur, IL - d. 3-4-2010
    actor: "We Hold These Truths"
    10-30-1918 - Jerry Adler - d. 3-13-2010
    harmonica" Paul Whiteman Orchestra
    09-01-1922 - Cherie DeCastro - NYC - d. 3-14-2010
    singer: (The DeCastro Sisters) "Steve Lawrence Show"; "Here's to
    Veterans"
    03-18-1926 - Peter Graves -Minneapolis, MN - d. 3-14-2010
    actor: "Arthur Hopkins Presents"
    02-25-1914 - Mamie Delzell - Georgetown County, SC - d. 3-16-2010
    host: Town Crier "Hello Ladies"
    08-16-1924 - Fess Parker - Fort Worth, TX - d. 3-18-2010
    actor: "Guest Star"; "We Hold These Truths"
    09-09-1918 - Blanche Thebom - Monessen, PA - d. 3-23-2010
    mezzo-soprano: "Bell Telephone Hour"; "Metropolitan Opera"; "Railroad
    Hour"
    08-16-1930 - Robert Culp - Oakland, CA - d. 3-24-2010
    actor: "Philip Morris Playhouse on Broadway"
    11-08-1913 - June Havoc - Vancouver, Canada - d. 3-28-2010
    actor: "Advs. of Sam Spade"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
    12-01-1921 - John Bunch - Tipton, IN - d. 3-30-2010
    jazz pianist: "Eddie Condon"; "Maynard Ferguson"
    01-29-1918 - John Forsythe - Penns Grove, NJ - d. 4-1-2010
    actor: "NBC Star Playhouse"; "Best Plays"
    12-17-1943 - Christopher Cazenove - Winchester, England - d. 4-7-2010
    actor: "My Fate Cries Out"
    01-16-1924 - Allen Swift - NYC - d. 4-18-2010
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    01-28-1933 - Myles Wilder - NYC - d. 4-20-2010
    writer: "The Whistler"
    04-22-1920 - Arthur Winograd - NYC - d. 4-22-2010
    Founding member of the Julliard String Quartet
    09-03-1918 - Helen Wagner - Lubbock, TX - d. 5-1-2010
    actor: Trudy Bauer "The Guiding Light"; "The Theatre Guild on the Air"
    03-08-1943 - Lynn Redgrave - London, England - d. 5-2-2010
    actor: "Artist Descending a Staircase"; "Vile Bodies"
    01-25-1918 - Ernie Harwell - Washington, GA - d. 5-4-2010
    baseball broadcaster for the Detroit Tigers
    05-12-1910 - Giuletta Simionato - Forli, Italy - d. 5-5-2010
    mezzo-soprano:"Metropolitan Opera"
    04-28-1923 - Adele Mara - Highland Park, MI - d. 5-7-2010
    actor: "George Fisher Interviews the Stars"
    06-30-1917 - Lena Horne - Brooklyn, NY - d. 5-9-2010
    singer: "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street"
    06-02-1902 - Rosa Rio - New Orleans, LA - d. 5-13-2010
    organist: "Rosa Rio Rhythms"; "The Shadow"
    07-31-1918 - Hank Jones - Vicksburg, MS - d. 5-16-2010
    jazz pianist: "Andy Williams Sings"; Benny Goodman Quintet"
    07-17-1912 - Art Linkletter - Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada - d.
    5-26-2010
    emcee: "People Are Funny"; "House Party"
    07-21-1910 - Himan Brown - NYC - d. 6-4-2010
    actor, producer: Papa Marino "Little Italy"; "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"
    09-08-1911 - Christine Johnson - Hopkinsville, KY - d. 6-9-2010
    singer, actress: "The Squibb Show"
    08-10-1928 - Jimmy Dean - Plainview, TX - d. 6-13-2010
    singer: "Grand Ole Opry"
    05-05-1929 - Ilene Woods - Portsmouth, NH - d. 7-1-2010
    singer: "The Ilene Woods Show"
    02-14-1923 - Cesare Siepi - Milan, Italy - d. 7-5-2010
    opera singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Metropolitan Opera"
    09-25-1916 - Jessica Anderson - Australia - d. 7-9-2010
    authored at least 10 radio plays in her native Australia
    10-19-1927 - Buff Cobb - Florence, Italy - d. 7-12-2010
    actor: (Wife of Mike Wallace) "Proudly We Hail"; "Curtain Time"
    01-29-1927 - Peter Fernandez - NYC - d. 7-15-2010
    actor: George Bigelow "The Aldrich Family"; Skip "Right to Happiness"
    03-01-1931 - Larry Keith - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-17-2010
    actor: "The Man and His Music"
    06-15-1919 - Alvin Boretz - NYC - d. 7-21-2010
    writer: "American School of the Air"; "The Big Story"; "Treasury Salute"
    08-09-1919 - Ralph Houk - Lawrence, KS - d. 7-21-2010
    baseball manager: "Tops In Sports"
    08-31-1916 - Daniel Schoor - NYC - d. 7-23-2010
    correspondent, commentator: "Edward R. Murrow and the News"
    07-04-1911 - Mitch Miller - Rochester, NY - d. 7-31-2010
    bandleader: "Here's to Veterans"
    01-20-1926 - Patricia Neal - Packard, KY - d. 8-8-2010
    actor: "Hollywood Star Preview"
    01-25-1919 - Edwin Newman - NYC - d. 8-13-2010
    news commentator: "Biography in Sound"; "What Christmas Means to Me"
    08-21-1916 - Jackson Gillis - Kalama, WA - d. 8-19-2010
    writer: "The Whistler"; "Jeff Reagan, Invesitgator"; "Let George Do It"
    11-21-1921 - Billie Mae Richards - Ontario, Canada - d. 9-10-2010
    actor: "Nightfall"
    02-15-1914 - Kevin McCarthy - Seattle, WA - d. 9-11-2010
    actor: Richard Lawless "Richard Lawless"
    12-10-1923 - Harold Gould - Schenectady, NY - d. 9-11-2010
    actor: "A Celebration of the Short Story"; "The Calf"
    11-14-1920 - Irving Ravetch - Newark, NJ - d. 9-19-2010
    writer, adapter: "Escape"
    08-10-1928 - Eddie Fisher - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-22-2010
    singer: "Stars in Khaki 'n' Blue"; "Eddie Fisher Show"
    03-18-1912 - Art Gilmore - Tacoma, WA - d. 9-25-2010
    announcer: "Dr. Christian"; "Amos 'n' Andy"
    07-04-1910 - Gloria Stuart - Santa Monica, CA - d. 9-26-2010
    actor: "Suspense"
    02-08-1919 - Buddy Morrow - New Haven, CT - d. 9-27-2010
    bandleader/trombonist: "One Night Stand"; "Army Bandstand"
    06-03-1925 - Tony Curtis - NYC - d. 9-29-2010
    actor: "Hollywood Star Playhouse"; "Stars in the Air"; "Suspense"
    11-07-1926 - Joan Sutherland - Sydney, Australia - d. 10-10-2010
    soprano: "Metropolitan Opera"
    04-15-1919 - Jerry Marshall - Far Rockaway, NY - d. 10-13-2010
    disk jockey: "Music Hall"; "Make-Believe Ballroom"; "Record Room"
    10-01-1927 - Tom Bosley - Chicago, IL - d. 10-19-2010
    host: "General Mills Adventure Theatre"
    12-08-1937 - James MacArthur - Los Angeles, CA - d. 10-28-2010
    actor: "Theatre Guild of the Air"
    02-11-1926 - Leslie Nielsen - Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada - d.
    11-28-2010
    actor: "Jive Patrol"
    02-25-1940 - Ron Santo - Seattle, WA - d. 12-2-2010
    color commentator for the Chicago Cubs
    11-03-1918 - Bob Feller - Van Meter, IA - d. 12-15-2010
    baseball great: "The Jack Benny Program"
    07-26-1922 - Blake Edwards - Tulsa, OK - d. 12-15-2010
    writer: "Lineup"; "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"
    01-16-1922 - Lina Romay - NYC - d. 12-17-2010
    latin singer: "The Bing Crosby Show"; "The Dick Haymes Show"
    03-27-1921 - Fred Foy - Detroit, MI - d. 12-22-2010
    announcer, narrator: "The Lone Ranger"
    05-11-1921 - Dorothy Warenskjold - San Leandro, CA - d. 12-27-2010
    lyric soprano: "The Railroad Hour"; "Voice of Firestone"; "Candy
    Matson, Yukon2-8209"
    03-12-1913 - Agathe von Trapp - Pola, Istria, Austria - d. 12-28-2010
    singer: (Trapp Family Singers) "Christmas Seal Sale"
    07-24-1921 - Billy Taylor - Greenville, SC - d. 12-28-2010
    host: "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Bing Crosby Show"; "Genius of Duke"

    Ron
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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:56:33 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Green Hornet [removed]
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    I have not seen the Green Hornet movie, but I wonder about the music.  Someone
    stated that the music used was "horrible" or something like that.

    It would have been quite easy to use the original music since most of it is in
    public domain.  There may have been a few items composed especially for it, as
    in The Lone Ranger.  I don't have a program handy, but I recall hearing a
    portion of Stravinskii's Firebird, and the usual overtures, Dona Diana, etc.

    Ted Kneebone
    1528 S. Grant Street
    Aberdeen, SD  57401

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:56:23 -0500
    From: George Tirebiter <tirebiter2@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Flo Gibson and New York Times use of the world
     "serial"

    Today's New York Times has an obit for Flo Gibson, who is primarily known as
    a reader for audio books, but who also has an OTR connection. The Times obit
    includes the following paragraph:

    "She acted in several West Coast radio serials - including "Pat Novak for
    Hire," which starred a young Jack Webb - before marrying Carlos Gibson, a
    Peruvian diplomat, and raising four children."

    Again the word "serial" when series is meant. I noticed this is the review of
    the current Green Hornet film and I see that has been mentioned here. I
    wonder if the Times has some sort of stylistic rule on this?

    The obituary for Ms. Gibson is here:

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:58:37 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fran Striker gets no credit

    Rob Chatlin asked:

>     As the credits roll at the end of the movie, it says clearly "based on the
>     RADIO program". It also mentions the original creator of the series George
>     W. Trendle.  I was delighted to see this when I watched it this morning.

    Is there any mention or credit for Fran Striker?
    Or is the radio equivalent of Stan Lee & Jack Kirby ?

    Rob, there's a long story behind this (too much to type in a posting but it can be found in the GREEN HORNET
    book Terry and I wrote). Long story short, Striker was a "writer-for-hire" so Trendle took credit for
    creating the series. Striker never argued, because he wanted the paychecks to keep coming. THE LONE RANGER,
    for example, Striker signed a contract to Trendle for the rights to everything he created -- THE LONE RANGER,
    WARNER LESTER and THRILLS OF THE SECRET SERVICE for a small fee. It became a Trendle exclusive. Years later,
    with more money than he knew what to do with, Trendle had Striker sign another contract. For $200, Striker
    signed an agreement that as of then, no matter what, Trendle was to take credit for creating THE LONE RANGER.
    Heck, if I had more billions than I knew what to do with, I myself might pay Marvel, Kirby and Lee to be
    able to legally claim I created SPIDER-MAN. Anyway, since then, Trendle claimed creatorship. This has been
    verified (I even have a copy of the contracts that were signed). Every time Trendle licensed anything related
    to THE GREEN HORNET or THE LONE RANGER, he had a clause to stipulate he was to be credited on screen as the
    creator. TV shows, movies, etc. Still goes on today. Historians know the truth, because the contracts
    exist. However, for all intents and purposes Fran Striker is not credited as the creator.

    Off the side, in the past two years I wrote a small booklet and a magazine article for two different companies,
    about THE LONE RANGER and GREEN HORNET and each write-up caused a minor "issue" because I documented what I stated above.
    Today, the parties that own the rights to both properties still insist NOTHING go to print to state Fran Striker's
    involvement beyond being a "writer for hire." The property owners had reviewed my write-ups after licensing permission
    for the products and magazine, and they disapproved of what I wrote. For one write-up I suggested they remove the
    paragraphs stating Fran Striker as the creator, so the rest of the piece I wrote could run as it was and not cause an issue,
    and the matter was promptly resolved. The other caused me to lose a writing job because, as it was told to me by a third person
    later on, I was causing problems the magazine editor didn't want to deal with. I can understand the magazine editor's situation,
    having paid the copyright holders for permission to feature an article about the radio program, and not wanting to piss off the
    copyright holders soon after the agreement was signed. But the amusing part of the story? An OTR author called me up and quizzed me
    on information about a radio program a couple months ago. Just this week I got a copy of the magazine, the latest issue, and it
    seems that author wrote an article about the show -- which explains why he called me. Seems I was "unofficially" a consultant
    for the magazine, but "officially" no longer an author of their magazine articles. I wonder if the editor knows this?

    When the closing credits of the movie cited George W. Trendle as the creator, this came as no surprise. If the new
    LONE RANGER movie goes into production, I have no doubt it'll say the same.
    Martin

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:58:43 -0500
    From: Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Audiences liking GH more than the critics?

    The movie site Rotten Tomatoes, at the time I was writing this, rated the new
    Green Hornet movie 43% by the [removed] which is not good. But audiences are
    rating it 65%. Wall Street Journal has reported that it's had a big weekend,
    about $35 million.

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