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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2001 : Issue 394
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
The Centennial of "S" [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
Top Secrets of the FBI [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
Marconi celebration [ Tony Baechler <tony@[removed]; ]
home discs [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
Cardboard and Floppy Records [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Today in Radio History [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
re:Pearl Harbor, Michael Biel, Earl [ "Eric Cooper" <ejcooper2001@[removed] ]
Replies [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
actress and web-site [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Maybeland Map [ "jsouthard" <jsouthard@[removed]; ]
Easy Aces [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
Richard Crenna [ "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed] ]
100th Anniversary [ "tas richardson" <tasrichardson@spr ]
RE; COSTUMED RADIO PERFORMERS [ "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
Re: OTR and the Deconstructionists [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Re: Fibber McGee and Molly Christmas [ Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed]; ]
FM&M 1949 Christmas show [ Roo61@[removed] (Randy Watts) ]
Re: Roses and Drums [ GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@ ]
searching for mp3's again! [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
Fred Campanella [ ARago17320@[removed] ]
pictures [ Peter Appleyard <pappleyard_ca@yaho ]
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:05:02 -0500
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Centennial of "S"
Radio is now old enough that we can begin observing centennials.
Wednesday, 12 December 2001 is the 100th anniversary of the first
wireless signal to cross the Atlantic. Guglielmo Marconi built a
powerful transmitting station at Poldhu, on the Cornwall coast of
England and a listening post at Signal Hill near St John's,
Newfoundland. It was one-way radio. Once he received the signal
Marconi had to wire Poldhu to report success.
The first message to cross the ocean was one letter long. The letter
was S, or ... in Morse Code. Marconi was afraid that sending dashes
would strain the Poldhu transmitter. The tests were conducted 25 times
on a schedule that ran from 1-3 AM and Noon-1 PM.
There are several websites in observance of the Marconi transmissions.
You might check:
[removed]~thunder/atlantic-leap/ and
[removed].
and in an unprecedented worldwide salute to the first message to span
the ocean, every radio station on both sides of the Atlantic will say
some words starting with the letter S ;-S)
Tanti auguri, Guglielmo! E' stato un secolo tremendo.
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:05:33 -0500
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Top Secrets of the FBI
Note to Jim Cox:
"Top Secrets of the FBI" was a Mutual sustainer for the season of
1947-48. The host/narrator was Melvin Purvis, famous in FBI lore as the
Agent in Charge in Chicago in July 1934 when Public Enemy No. 1, John
Dillinger was shot to death outside the Biograph Theater. Purvis,
unfortunately, lent his name thereafter to several commercial
enterprises and was forced out of the FBI in 1935. (The poor fellow took
his own life with a gun in 1960.)
This radio series, 30 min in length, claimed (incorrectly) that it "was
based on actual cases of the FBI". The series had no connection to , nor
cooperation from, the Bureau. It was written by Steadman Coves and
directed and produced by Roger Bauer. Music by Sylvan Levin and the
announcer was Bob Emerick. Cast regulars were Bill Quinn, Joe Julian,
Sidney Smith, Julie Stevens, and Larry Haines. Mutual produced it in New
York City, so I'd guess that means the studios of WOR.
I have one audio copy of the show and it's a fairly mediocre crime
drama, dressed up with silly quasi-G-Man stuff. Typical line: "Now, this
FBI [removed]'s call him 'Jones', for security reasons, is talking
to his chief, let's call him 'Smith', also for security reasons."
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:05:43 -0500
From: Tony Baechler <tony@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Marconi celebration
This is from the BBC. I have not looked at the full story but thought it
might interest some on this digest.
* Cornwall celebrates Marconi milestone *
Guglielmo Marconi will be honoured on Wednesday, 12 December - 100 years
after the
first radio signal bridged the Atlantic.
Full story:
[removed]
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:55:27 -0500
From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: home discs
Joe Asks:
Do you know what they are of?
To be honest I would have to go "dig" them out to see, but I think I
recall seeing an interview of somekind on atleast one of them. I think the
dates on them were from the 40's.
Shawn
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:56:01 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cardboard and Floppy Records
Ian Grieve noted,
The only time I have seen an example of a cardboard record was a record
of sounds supposedly involved in the shooting of JFK. It was distributed
by <snip> Playboy in the middle of one of their magazines. <snip> . So
the practice of cardboard records must have continued in some form into
the late sixties early seventies
Actually, the records-as-inserts in the 1960s and 1970s generally didn't
employ cardboard records. By the 1960s, companies were manufacturing
that which is now called a "floppy LP"; that is, a recording pressed into
a thin sheet of vinyl that was played by putting it over a conventional
record (fir stiffness) and then played as usual. These records were
almost invariably 33 1/3 RPM units. In the 1970s, the Longines
Symplonette Society put out a Captain Midnight package consisting of a
"certificate of commission" as a Secret Sqiadron Flight Commander, a
punch-out photograph of a 1942 Code-O-Graph printed on cardstock (not
really a working model), and a number of floppy-LP recordings of Captain
Midnight OTR shows, mostly World War II adventures. Some of these
floppy-LP Captain Midnight adventures are sold from time to time on eBay.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:56:05 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in Radio History
From a long time subscriber --
December 11, 1938 - This is New York premieres over CBS Radio, a
short-run variety program that offered Ed Gardner the opportunity to
create "Archie" in one of the brodcasts, and later use the character as
a regular on DUFFY'S TAVERN.
From Those Were The Days --
1944 - The Chesterfield Supper Club debuted on NBC radio. Perry Como, Jo
Stafford and many other stars of the day shared the spotlight on the
15-minute show that aired five nights a week. The show was sponsored by
Chesterfield cigarettes.
Joe
--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:56:36 -0500
From: "Eric Cooper" <ejcooper2001@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: re:Pearl Harbor, Michael Biel, Earl Godwin
My compliments to Michael Biel for his usual thourough coverage of one of
his (and my) favorite subjects. Also my apologies for using the term
"illegal". The reason that I put it in quotes was because I meant that it
was illegal in terms of House rules and I should have so stated. It is not
surprising to me that no one now would know what was in CBS' or and other
station's or network's archives. So much time has passed and CBS has had
several management changes. Still it was interesting to hear that CBS
ordered the recording destroyed. I have your C-SPAN program on tape and I
play it every December 7th.
Among the NBC Memovox recordings of December 8th, is the beginning of a
commentary by Earl Godwin at approximately 1:41pm Eastern time 12/8/41 (I
think it was on Red), who begins ranting against Jeanette Rankin, saying
"...the fact that Jeanette Rankin, who would just as soon see the Japanese
sweep over the country and kill everyone on the [removed]" . He was cut off
at that point, with the network switching back to the House, ostensibly for
a news bulletin concerning the vote on the war resolution which had just
been completed. I wonder if cutting him off was a coincidence or did he go
too far, in the network's eyes?
Eric Cooper
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:57:06 -0500
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Replies
Elizabeth mentioned the name of Fred Capenella. I think that it was Fred
Capasella, a race track announcer. I am not sure of the spelling. He
actually worked for the Racing Association. One summer, as I had
Saturdays off at CBS, I did the audio for Hughes Sports Network (HSN)
broadcasts from Belmont, Aqueduct, and Saratoga Springs. (I liked
Saratoga best due to it's rustic atmosphere). Win Elliot was the color
announcer. Fred would always announce his arrival with "hello truck". A
real nice man. However, I rarely ever saw him.
Another [removed] Someone a few days ago referred to WJSV in Washington
as a CBS owned and operated station. Not so. WJSV stood for Jame S.
Vance, it's founder, and owner. The CBS Washington news bureau was housed
at WJSV, which brought about the misinformation. When the station was
sold to a newspaper the new owner bought the call letters WTOP from the
Toledo, Ohio, police, so as to signify "Top Of The Dial". CBS built
it's own facility at 2020 M Street with both radio and TV studios. (I
workd out of there numerous times). Even some of our Washington newsmen
thought that CBS owned WJSV because of the arrangement.
Bill Murtough
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:58:14 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: actress and web-site
Two mentions:
1. I recently found a few new web-sites that have logs, articles, and
episodes available. (Standard disclaimer about sales pitches applies.)
For any old-time radio fans who want to check them out (in case they have
not discovered them already by browseing the web), they are:
[removed]
[removed]
I'm pretty sure one is fairly new while the other has probably been around
for a while, but I was unaware of it.
Mention #2
I've been trying to find some information about
Barbara Terrell and Charlotte Keane.
Both female radio actors played the role of Nikki Porter on The Adventures
of Ellery Queen, and for some reason, I have not been able to find any
biographies about their careers. Usual sources like Dunning's and such
failed, and since my real good reference books are still packed in boxes
(I'm moving slowly from one house to another) it's difficult to further
research their lives. Anyone know anything about the two actresses?
Martin
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:56:51 -0500
From: "jsouthard" <jsouthard@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Maybeland Map
I wish to thank Dennis Crow for sending me at his own expense a copy of his
Maybeland Map. It was a generous thing to do. I recently downloaded "The
Cinnamon Bear" from an internet site and I am putting together a packet with
the map for my grandson. As he is only 11 months, it will be a few years
until he can enjoy the programs. Thanks again Dennis.
John Southard
jsouthard@[removed]
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:58:26 -0500
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Easy Aces
OTR Digest guru Elizabeth said in Digest #390:
5. Jane and Goodman Ace -- Jane's voice can give you a migraine if
there's too much high end in the recording,
I'm glad that someone has finally mentioned Jane Ace's voice. I cannot
listen to that program and for years have marveled at postings where
others have commented on this series as being darned wonderful.
Jane's voice doesn't give me migraines (I don't get headaches), but the
nasal sound of her voice works on me like fingernails on a blackboard!
Anyone else hear that?
Arlene Osborne
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:57:23 -0500
From: "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Richard Crenna
Richard Crenna has been mentioned several times in the last few Digests.
Didn't he also play Luke in TVs "The Real McCoys"?
Ian Grieve remembers a cardboard record from Playboy magazine. Mad magazine
also gave away a "free" record with each magazine sometime in the late '50s
or early '60s. I don't remember if it was coated cardboard or some type of
plastic, it was quite thin and flexible. As I remember, it mostly consisted
of maniacal laughter.
Roby McHone
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:10:19 -0500
From: "tas richardson" <tasrichardson@[removed];
To: "Oldtime Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 100th Anniversary
On Wednesday, Dec. 12th, CBC AM & CBC FM will celebrate the 100th
anniversary of Marconi's historic transatlantic transmission. Programming
throughout the day will use music and drama to focus on that event, and the
early history of radio. This can be accessed at [removed] Hopefully, the
dispute between management and the radio technicians will not cancel these
programs.
Tas in snowy but sunny Alberta.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:20:28 -0500
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE; COSTUMED RADIO PERFORMERS
In the last issue, Elizabeth spoke of the radio show Roses & Drums, and the
artists performing in costume. That was not the only show that used costume
performers. It was done on "Maxwell House Showboat" hosted by Charles
Winniger (later, Lanny Ross), and ran on NBC from 1932-1940, and featured
Hattie McDaniel, Pic Malone and Pat Padgett, appearing in all their
Blackface glory as "Molasses & January" (Later they wer to have a show of
their own called "Pic & Pat" (an Amos7 Andy-like comedy show). There are at
least 3 episoces of Showboat in circulation. ******** The other one was The
Railroad Hour ABC-NBC 1948-1954, that pesented American Opperattas and
Broadway Musicals. The ironic thing about this program was that it used two
casts; A singing cast & a speaking cast. (The singing cast was in
full-dress and gowns, while the speaking cast was in costume.) One was on
the left side of the studio & the other one was on the right. Gordon McRae
was the Host and (singing) star of the program. There are over 225 episode
in circulation.
Owens
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:37:22 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: OTR and the Deconstructionists
Chris Chandler observes:
That's the major trouble with these latter-day critiques and revisionist
interpretations; these critics are assigning subtexts and attitudes the
original authors never intended in a million years.
Well, when you're dealing with Postmoderns and Deconstructionists, all
questions of "authors' intent" go out the window. This is what's most
important to keep in mind when reading works of this nature -- the
authors are usually coming from a school of academic philosophy that's
been fashionable for the past twenty years or so, in which (and I'm
boiling out all the trendy jargon to try and make it as basic as
possible) all meaning of a given text is assigned by the reader, not the
author. Taken by itself, the text has no meaning -- therefore, it is up
to the reader to assign to that text whatever meaning he or she imposes
on it as a result of his or her own experience and perspective. To those
who follow this school, authorial intent is irrelevant -- and words have
no meaning other than those which we assign to them. There is no
"correct" or "incorrect" interpretation of a text -- all interpretations
are correct and all interpretations are incorrect, all at the same time.
In theory at least. In actual practice, the "correct interpretation"
tends to be the one which your own particular professor subscribes to,
and all other interpretations are imposed by your being an unwitting
victim of the prevailing cultural hegemony. All interpretations are
equal, but some are more equal than others. (Po-Mos don't much like
Orwell. He was British, and you can't get much more Prevailing Cultural
Hegemony than that.)
There are still a few rebels who believe this whole approach is so much
self-absorbed elitist intellectual crackpotism -- a few years ago, an NYU
physics professor by the name of Alan Sokol decided to have a little fun
with the Postmodern Cultural Studies crowd, and submitted an article to
one of that discipline's academic journals which was made up entirely of
fake references and meaningless jargon -- but which adhered to the
radical political philosophy preferred by that journal. It was published
and praised by the journal's editors -- and then Sokol made public fools
of them by revealing the hoax. The hoaxees were of course not amused --
the distinguishing characteristic of the postmodernists is that they take
themselves *very* seriously. (If so inclined, you can read about the
so-called "Social Text" affair at Sokal's website,
[removed])
What does all this have to do with OTR? Plenty, if you read "academic"
books on the subject. The theories expounded by these authors are often
provocative -- but one has to be very careful to read them for what they
are: intellectual word games, and not straight history. It's eye-opening
to compare the approach taken by pre-postmodern (is that even a word?)
academics like Arthur Wertheim writing about OTR in the 1970s with that
preferred by the postmoderns of the 1990s -- you'll learn far, far more
about what OTR actually *was* and what it actually meant to its audience
by reading Wertheim than you ever will from any po-mo author of the last
decade.
As for Jack and Rochester, there's ample evidence the Benny writers never
even DREAMT they were sending a 'secret message'. Milt Josefsberg's 1970s
reminsence THE JACK BENNY PROGRAM includes a long passage debunking rumors
that Jack HIMSELF was gay (that WALK seems to have been the leading piece of
supposed evidence), but he completely glosses over the Jack-Rochester
'controversy'. It apparently never occured to him to address it. Worse,
his description of the Benny staff's "token faggot" (his quote) leaves
little doubt he and the other writers were far too insensitive and ignorant
of gay culture to have secretly spent 20 years telegraphing a homoerotic
fantasy.
The "Jack was Gay" crowd, and its subset, the "Jack was a Crossdresser"
crowd, tend to ignore the fact that much of Jack's swishy stage persona
was copied from that of Frank Fay, the Broadway stage comedian of the
twenties. (If you ever have a chance, check out Fay's work in the 1929
movie revue "Show of Shows." My oh my.) If Susan Sontag had been around
in 1925, she would have proclaimed Fay the very Avatar of Camp -- and in
fact, there may be even more "evidence" for Fay than for Jack Benny --
Jack only idolized Barbara Stanwyck, but Frank Fay actually married her!
As goofy and self-indulgent as some of these interpretations may seem, I
have to be thankful that most of the postmodernist ink that's been
spilled about "Amos 'n' Andy" over the last couple of decades has been
written by people who didn't actually do serious factual research.
Otherwise they would have learned that (1) For more than seven years,
Amos and Andy not only room together, they share the same bed. They are
occasionally portrayed lying in bed together late at night, quietly
discussing their hopes and fears. They sometimes complain about hogging
the blanket, sniping and kicking like an old married couple. (2) Amos and
Andy often embrace to comfort one another in times of stress, and
sometimes cry on each other's shoulder in situations of real personal
tragedy. (3) Publicity drawings sometimes show Amos wearing a pink shirt
and Andy wearing a red or red-figured necktie -- garments which were
considered secret signals in the urban gay culture of the 1920s. In at
least one episode, Andy declares specifically that he is wearing a red
necktie as an aid to recognition. (4) On more than one occasion, and in
specific terms, Andy declares that he loves Amos. (5) And on at least one
occasion, Andy characterizes Amos as "just like a woman."
It never occured to me until now that Ruby Taylor and Madam Queen were
just beards, but on the other hand that poolside scene in 1936 with Cary
Grant and Randolph Scott admiring each others' tans, while Amos and Andy
chat with them real friendly-like *does* raise some valid questions. It
may well be that we need to realize that Amos's devotion to hard work and
self-improvement and Andy's narcissism actually depict the results of
their sublimation of the Self.
Now, what I've just said may sound silly -- and it's intended to be, even
though the scenes I've described are real. But I'm willing to bet if
some Cultural Studies PhD wanted to do it, they could take what I've
written above, couch it in the proper pretentious Foucaltian jargon, add
a few sociopolitical interpretations, and get it published in the
"Journal of Popular Culture." Of such things are Postmodern Scholarly
Reputations made.
Elizabeth
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:44:26 -0500
From: Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Fibber McGee and Molly Christmas Eipsode
Hi, All!
Thanks for the many responses to my question about the Fibber McGee and
Molly Christmas show. Ted, Willard, Frank, Andy, and several others who
replied to me offlist seemed to get this whole thing sorted out. Apparently,
it was an annual tradition to end the Fibber McGee and Molly show with The
Night Before Christmas since 1942. Ted was even so kind as to e-mail me a
script of the show from a previous year which clearly indicated that there
be no applause at the end of the piece, that instead it go straight to "This
Is NBC, The National Broadcasting Co." I realize that many shows had their
own special way of ending Christmas shows, this one just struck me as a
little abrupt, but I suppose that's the way it was!
Thanks to everyone who replied on and off-list. You're such a great group of
people!
Happy Holidays!
Bryan Wright
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:45:01 -0500
From: Roo61@[removed] (Randy Watts)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: FM&M 1949 Christmas show
Not even the shortest burst of applause follows "'Twas the Night Before
Christmas" on my (non-Radio Spirits) copy of Fibber McGee and Molly's
1949 Christmas show. The song ends and after a few seconds of silence,
listeners are urged to stay tuned for "Big Town," the chimes are heard,
and then the WMAQ ids.
Given the timing for this broadcast I have down in my cataloguing, I
would guess that either the show ran long, requiring that the final
commercial and closing be dropped, or it was deliberately scripted to
end that way. For no other reason than that I can't imagine the nice
people at Johnson's considering Christmas a good reason to sacrifice a
final plug for Glo-Coat, I suspect the former.
Randy
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:55:50 -0500
From: GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Roses and Drums
No episodes of this once-famous program survive.
However, about 30 or 35 years ago the program's
sponsor, Cincinnati's Union-Central Insurance Company,
issued a 33 1/3 RPM phonograph recording of the
program's theme and background music, as played on the
world-famous Union-Central chimes in downtown
Cincinnati. The name of the album was, of course,
"Roses and Drums." It can still be found in area
"junk" stores.
Hint: it would be a really nice project for some
current-day radio drama group to re-create a few
episodes of this missing series from the available
scripts.
George Wagner
GWAGNEROLDTIMERADIO@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:02:49 -0500
From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: searching for mp3's again!
If anyone has a nearly complete, or complete run of the Jack Benny
Program on CD, that is labeled and has correct airdates on the files
please let me know. I recently bought a run that I thought to be nearly
complete, only to find 45 duplicate shows, shows that have been severely
edited, missing programs that I know exist (Because I have them!) and
worst of all, shows that start, and then, in the same file start over
after about 5 minutes!
I think, now I know why so many "serious" collectors steer clear of the
mp3 format! I've given it a try, and after dealing with 3 sellers on
ebay, I have found only one that I would do business with again. Besides
this ordeal, I had a similar experience with some Bob & Ray episodes that
were barely listenable, and all of the shows had 1 of 5 dates on them!
rodney.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:41:48 -0500
From: ARago17320@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fred Campanella
Hi everyone,
Chris Chandler asked about some Horse racing announcers he heard.
I believe you will find that "Fred Campanella" is actually Fred Caposella
(possibly spelled Capocella). Unfortunately I spent many years and several
thousand dollars at NYRA (New York Racing Authority) race tracks at Belmont
Park and Aqueduct in the late 60's and early 70's where Fred called the
races. He was a legendary race caller (at least to us) who would have been
used on big race radio/TV broadcasts. He was something to hear. A high voice
and a very clipped and precise way of speaking. His race calls were exciting
and great to listen to. I do not remember if he retired, died or moved to
another state but somewhere along the line Dave Johnson, who can still be
heard on the Kentucky Derby calls today on TV took over at the tracks here in
NY.
I followed racing very closely for about a 10 year period ending in 1975 and
I do recall hearing Bryan Field. My memory is that he was English or sounded
English. If I am correct in my memory of him he sounded a bit like Fred
Caposella.
If Elizabeth will check under Caposella(Capocella) in her reference materials
she will probably will find him. It would be interesting to know about his
early career. At least those of us in the NY area who heard him call races.
I had no idea where he worked or what he did before calling races for NYRA.
Hope this helps.
Al Ragonnet
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:42:10 -0500
From: Peter Appleyard <pappleyard_ca@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: pictures
I am working on a web site of Western shows and have
been looking high and low for some photo's that I can
use of Raymond Burr, John Dahner, Sam Buffington and
of course Joel McCrea and William Conrad with no luck.
Can anyone help with an address where I might pick up
some shots. Thanks pappleyard_ca@[removed]
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