Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #329
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Date: 11/21/2007 8:28 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 329
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Gildy's final shows                   [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Robert Hall                           [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      "Over to you, [removed]"          [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      name of Jubilee theme song?           [ Chargous@[removed] ]
      Jingles running thru oru brain        [ "Michael Muderick" <michael@muderic ]
      Re: Stripping                         [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Superman, Kryptonite                  [ "joe@[removed]" <jsalerno@earthli ]
      More Local Jingles                    [ "Doug Douglass" <dougdouglass@[removed] ]
      Reply and Xmas Program Help           [ Sue Hamilton <suelhamilton@comcast. ]
      Re: Jingles running thru our brain    [ Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed]; ]
      Gunsmoke parody                       [ mikennancy2001@[removed] ]
      John McIntire                         [ mikennancy2001@[removed] ]
      Palisades Park Jingle                 [ James Yellen <clifengr3@[removed] ]
      Strip Shows                           [ George Tirebiter <tirebiter2@hotmai ]
      Edward VIII Abdication                [ Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed]; ]
      11-22 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:09:36 -0500
    From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
    To: Old Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Gildy's final shows

    There seems to be general agreement that the last Great Gildersleeve show was
    in 1957. Yet in two recorded interviews, I have heard Willard Waterman state
    that he played Gildy for nine years,  from 1950 to 1959. I find myself
    wondering if Waterman was misremembering or whether the shows did continue
    past '57, possibly as repeats.

    I was fortunate enough to see Waterman perform as Gildersleeve in a
    re-creation in Massachusetts some years ago. His hands were shaking but his
    voice was strong, and oh-so-familiar.

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:12:01 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:09 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Robert Hall

>     Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:28:35 -0500
>     From: Default <swl2010@[removed];

>     I remember the yearly shopping trek to Robert Hall - those awful
>     stores - low-end clothing hanging on pipe racks.  The salesman always
>     sold my mom pants too big because "he'll grow into it."

    I never had that problem -- probably because my father was the one in
    charge of buying my clothes.  His father was a tailor, and he wanted
    things to fit.

    The stores were pretty simple in design, but the clothes were
    serviceable, especially when you outgrew them before they wore
    out.

>     Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:01:47 -0500
>     From: "Lawrence Santoro" <SS01002@[removed];

>     "Oh the values go up, up, up
>     And the prices come down, down, down.
>     Robert Hall this season
>     Will show you the reason:
>     Low overhead.
>     Low overHEAD!"

    And just to be perverse, I used to sing it as

    When the prices go up, up, up
    And the values go down, down, down ...

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:23:01 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Over to you, [removed]"

    From: "MICHAEL BIEL" _mbiel@[removed]_ (mailto:mbiel@[removed])

>     ...native New Yawkers ... I'll  spoil your Thanksgiving by asking you
>     to post the words to the two Palisades  Amusement Park jingles.

    Dear Michael-

    Well, the most this native Buckeye (I've only been in the Big Apple 30
    years!) recalls on the subject are the great DC comics ads, with  Superman
    holding
    up the rollercoaster.

    BUT - the Brooklyn-born Wife often launches (fragmentarily) into  one of them:

    Palisades has the rides, Palisades has the fun
    Come - on - over!
    Shows and dancing are free, and the parking's so cheap
    Come - on - over!
    Palisades Amusement Park
    (????????)...coast to coast
    Palisades Amusement Park
    where a dime buys the most.
    Swings all day and after dark!
    Ride the coaster, keep cool, in the waves, in the pool
    You'll have fun, so -
    Come on over!

>     Ain't I a devil!!!

    Yes. (Why do you ask?)

>     Happy Turkey Day.

    Back at you - & all!
    -Craig W.

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:18 -0500
    From: Chargous@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  name of Jubilee theme song?

    This one's a simple one - what's the name of the Jubilee theme song - are
    there any notable modern stereophonic renditions of that song?

    Travis

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:34 -0500
    From: "Michael Muderick" <michael@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jingles running thru oru brain

    Oh you are the devil Michael.    Who doesn't remember these verbatim?

    Now, after all is said and done
    It's Palisades for having fun.
    So during the day or when it's dark,
    Visit this great amusement park,
    Palisades Amusement Park.
    Skip the bother and skip the fuss (beep beep!)
    Take a Public Service Bus
    Public Service sure is great
    It takes you right up to the gate.

    Palisades has the rides
    Palisades has the fun
    Come on over
    Shows and dancing are free
    So's the parking, so gee,
    Come on over
    Palisades coast to coast
    Where a dime buys the most
    Palisades Amusement Park
    Swings all day and after dark
    Ride the coaster
    Get cool in the waves of the pool
    You'll have fun
    So Come on over.

    I [removed] here's a the weblink for these and a whole bunch of other
    jingles.

    [removed];threadid=52618

    Michael Muderick

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:59 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Stripping

    On 11/20/07 10:15 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     In John Dunnings article, on Great [removed] States "weeknights 15
>     mi strip-show format at !0:15". I don't really know what he means by
>     "Strip-show"  In my youth I may have attended a strip show, but what did
>     Dunning mean? An old episode that had been edited to fit the 15 or 25
>     minute formats?

    "Stripping" is a broadcasting term which means airing in a five or six
    programs a week format, in the manner of a daily comic strip. The term
    goes way back -- I've seen it in trade publications as early as 1930.
    Originally a strip show was specifically a nightly fifteen minute serial,
    and this is the sense in which the term is used in referring to the
    mid-fifties Gildersleeve program. In current industry jargon, though, a
    strip show is any program airing five or six nights a week -- syndicated
    reruns of TV sitcoms and syndicated game shows are generally sold as
    "strip shows."

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:21 -0500
    From: "joe@[removed]" <jsalerno@[removed];
    To: OTR List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Superman, Kryptonite

    Here is an excerpt from Wiki that refers to Kryptonite introduction in
    the radio [removed]

    "Superman's first encounter with kryptonite did not take place in his
    comic. It was actually introduced in 1943 on the Superman radio series,
    as both a plot device and to allow Superman's actor, Bud Collyer, to
    occasionally take time off. The episode in which it first briefly
    appeared now exists only as a script, but the substance played a part in
    at least one major plot-line during the course of the [removed]"

    Is this so? Does this episode not survive? I was under the impression
    that all of the S eps are available to this day.

    If someone has it pleas tell me the title and date.

    Thanks

    joe salerno

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:46 -0500
    From: "Doug Douglass" <dougdouglass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  More Local Jingles
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    Metro New Yorkers may remember ...

    Clippity, clippity, clippity clop
    Yonkers Raceway that's the spot
    Harness racing each weekday night
    At the Yonkers Raceway,  yes,  that's right

    plus ...

    Don't be a meany, bring me Barracini.

    And "Chock Full 'O Nuts is that heavenly coffee" sung by Page Morton, who if
    recall correctly was the wife of the company's owner.

    Doug Douglass

    ,

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:19:42 -0500
    From: Sue Hamilton <suelhamilton@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Reply and Xmas Program Help

    Hello All - I am the former Adventures in Cassettes manager and saw
    Marcus Antonsson's posting and have responded to one of my favorite
    former customers off-line.

    This gives me an opportunity to ask for some OTR Advice. As you can
    imagine, I have a large OTR library from my days working for AIC. I'd
    like to play a program or two for my 7th/8th grade Sunday School
    class--12- 13- & 14-year olds.

    I've been listening to many Christmas programs (both mysteries and
    comedies) from my collection, but haven't yet found quite the right
    one to play for these young teens. I'd like something that maybe
    touched a person's heart strings or brought home the Christmas
    message in a dramatic and memorable way.

    To all you wonderful and knowledgeable OTR aficionados -- Any
    suggestions?

    All the best wishes for a "Turkey Trouble-Free" Thanksgiving!*

    Sue

    Sue Hamilton

    *One of my favorite Thanksgiving program names from my AIC days was
    "Turkey Trouble."

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:19:20 -0500
    From: Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Jingles running thru our brain

    Michael Biel, you heartless fiend!  [removed] [removed]
    [removed] cannot!!

    "Palisades has the [removed] Palisades has the [removed]
    Come On Over!
    Shows and dancing are [removed] so's the parking, so
    [removed] Come On Over!
    Palisades, from coast to coast, where a dime buys the
    most.
    Palisades Amusement Park. Swings all day and after
    dark.  (baa-da-ba-ba-ba!)
    Ride the [removed] get cool in the waves in the pool.
    You'll have [removed] [removed] Come On Over!"

    I MUST get this out of my head!  Okay: "Ears, nose,
    throat and accessory organs not adversely affected by
    smoking Chesterfield."  Repeat as necessary until
    Palisades Park is as plowed over in your mind as it
    was in real life.

    Michael

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:54:31 -0500
    From: mikennancy2001@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gunsmoke parody

    I remember my friend Clancy Cassell talking about the episode where Conrad
    dubbed in "...the smell of HORSESH*T."  Apparently the announcer really
    inflected the word "GUNSMOKE" for many episodes after that because Conrad
    kept whispering the dirty word under his breath while they were on the air.

    --Mike Messner
    Mountain View, CA

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:54:51 -0500
    From: mikennancy2001@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  John McIntire

    When I was just getting into OTR, I remember hearing a tape of "The Devil and
    Daniel Webster" on the Hallmark Playhouse, hosted by James Hilton (whose
    voice made me think he was actually an older woman).  Anyway, on that
    episode, an actor named John McIntire played Daniel Webster.  Is this the
    same John McIntire who had a small role in the film "The Ashpalt Jungle"?  I
    was very impressed with the radio McIntire's voice but less impressed by the
    flick.  Anyone have any insights?

    --Mike Messner
    Mountain View, CA

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:59:29 -0500
    From: James Yellen <clifengr3@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Palisades Park Jingle

    Palisades has the rides, Palisades has the fun
    Come on over
    Shows and dancing are free
    So's the parking, so gee
    Palisades from coast to coast
    Where a dime buys the most
    Palisade amusement park
    Swings all day and after dark
    Ride the coaster
    You'll get cool in the waves in our pool
    You'll have fun
    So come on over.

    Jim Yellen

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:31:50 -0500
    From: George Tirebiter <tirebiter2@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Strip Shows

    Frank Mc Gurn wrote:

>     In John Dunnings article, on Great [removed] States "weeknights 15mi
>     strip-show format at !0:15". I don't really know what he means
>     by"Strip-show" In my youth I may have attended a strip show, but what
>     didDunning mean? An old episode that had been edited to fit the 15 or
>     25minute formats?

    I think a radio (or TV) program is referred to as "stripped" when it is
    presented every day from Monday thru Friday at the same time.  Thus when the
    a grid showing the station's (or network's) programming is prepared there is
    a strip across the page showing the program at the same time each day.

    I believe a program is referred to as "stripped" even if it is a new program
    or an old program shown (or played) at its original length.  The term does
    seem rather unfortunately apt when (for example) a half-hour program produced
    at some point from the 1950s to 1970s is cut by several minutes in order to
    insert more commercials.  (I remember some years ago watching reruns of the
    1970s THE BOB NEWHART SHOW on Nick at Night.  Each episode played excerpts
    from that particular show at the closing credits.  Sometimes there would be
    scenes glimpsed in the closing credits that had been deleted from the version
    shown on Nick at Night.)

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:07:14 -0500
    From: Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Edward VIII Abdication

    I am looking for news broadcast of Edward VIII's abdication of the British
    throne. I have the recording of his speech which was from 12/11/1936, but am
    seeking any news reports or comments, or perhaps any historical shows which
    might reference it.

    Thank you very [removed] and Happy Thanksgiving to [removed]

    JWW

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:15:15 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  11-22 births/deaths

    November 22nd births

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL

    11-22-1875 - Elizabeth Patterson - Savannah, TN - d. 1-31-1966
    actor: Maid "Halls of Ivy"
    11-22-1887 - Charles E. Mack - White Cloud, KS - d. 1-11-1934
    comedian, actor: (Two Black Crows) "The Eveready Hour"
    11-22-1895 - Alexander Laszlo - Budapest, Hungary - d. 11-17-1970
    orchestra leader: "This Is Your Life"
    11-22-1897 - Madge Tucker - d- 3-xx-1996
    actor: Lady Next Door "Coast to Coast on a Bus"
    11-22-1899 - Hoagy Carmichael - Bloomington, IN - d. 12-27-1981
    singer, composer: "Hoagy Carmichael Show"; "King's Men"
    11-22-1904 - Roland Winters - Boston, MA - d. 10-22-1989
    actor: Russell Bartlett "My Best Girls"; "Milton Berle Show";
    "Highways in Melody"
    11-22-1906 - Howard Petrie - Beverly, MA - d. 3-24-1968
    announcer: "Jimmy Durante Show"; "Judy Canova Show"
    11-22-1906 - Trezzvant W. Anderson - Charlotte, NC - d. 3-25-1963
    newscaster: "Pittsburgh Courier News"
    11-22-1910 - Ethel Smith - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 5-10-1996
    organist: "Your Hit Parade"
    11-22-1910 - John Carter - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-22-1988
    singer: "Charlie McCarthy Show"; "Voice of Firestone"
    11-22-1911 - Ernie Caceres - Rockport, TX - d. 1-10-1971
    clarinet, saxophone: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
    11-22-1911 - Frank Graham - Detroit MI - d. 9-2-1950
    actor: Diogenes Smith "Lum and Abner"; Jeff Regan "The Lion's Eye"
    11-22-1913 - Benjamin Britten - Lowestoft, Suffolk, England - d.
    12-4-1976
    composer: "Columbia Workshop"; "An American in England"
    11-22-1919 - H. Leslie Atlass, Jr. - d. 7-10-2003
    involved in Chicago radio
    11-22-1919 - Steve Alex - d. 10-22-1998
    newscaster: KSIL Silver City, New Mexico
    11-22-1921 - Rodney Dangerfield - Babylon, Long Island, NY - d.
    10-5-2004
    comedian: "Voices of Vista"
    11-22-1922 - Lynn(e) Roberts - El Paso, TX - d. 4-1-1978
    vocalist: "Dorsey Brothers Orchestra"; "Benny Goodman Orchestra"
    11-22-1924 - Geraldine Page - Kirksville, MO - d. 6-13-1987
    actor: "Arch Oboler's Plays"
    11-22-1932 - Robert Vaughn - NYC
    actor: "Monitor"
    11-22-1935 - Hugh C. Rae - Glasgow, Scotland
    writer: "The Freezer"
    11-22-1946 - Roger Baron - Chicago, IL
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    November 22nd deaths

    01-04-1905 - Sterling Holloway - Cedartown, GA - d. 11-22-1992
    actor: "Railroad Hour"; "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Suspense"; "Lux Radio
    Theatre"
    02-28-1911 - Gene O'Donnell - Iowa - d. 11-22-1993
    actor: " I Want A Divorce"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-02-1895 - Lorenz Hart - NYC - d. 11-22-1943
    lyricist: "Jumbo Fire Chief Program"; "Chase and Sanborn Hour";
    "Railroad Hour"
    05-13-1842 - Arthur Sullivan - London, England - d. 11-22-1900
    composer: (Gilbert and Sullivan) "The Railroad Hour"
    05-29-1917 - John F. Kennedy - Brookline, MA - d. 11-22-1963
    [removed] president: "Kennedy-Nixon Debates"; "American Forum of the Air"
    07-26-1894 - Aldous Huxley - Godalming, Surrey, England - d. 11-22-1963
    writer: "CBS Radio Workshop"
    08-01-1898 - Caesar Petrillo - Chicago, IL - d. 11-22-1963
    orchestra leader: (Brother of James C. Petrillo) "First Nighter"
    08-05-1914 - Parley Baer - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 11-22-2002
    actor: Chester Wesley Proudfoot "Gunsmoke"; Doc Clemmens "Rogers of
    the Gazette"
    08-17-1893 - Mae West - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-22-1980
    actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show" (Famous Adam and Eve Skit)
    09-21-1913 - Janet Ertel - Sheboygan, WI - d. 11-22-1988
    singer: (The Chordettes) "Arthur Godfrey Time"
    11-26-1917 - Adele Jergens - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-22-2002
    actor: Carol Curtis "Stand By For Crime"
    11-29-1898 - [removed] Lewis - Belfast, Northern Ireland - d. 11-22-1963
    author, lecturer: "Right and Wrong"; "Christian Behavior"
    12-02-1900 - Joe Rosenfield - Tennessee - d. 11-22-1987
    talkshow host: "Happiness Exchange"
    12-31-1897 - Paula Hemminghous - Columbus, OH - d. 11-22-1997
    singer: "Philco Hour"; "National Radio Pulpit"; "Highlights of the
    Bible"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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