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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 381

Table Of Contents: 

	 Was it Joe Besser?
	 Cartoon voices
	 Radio Yesteryear
	 Spellcheck
	 Superman Question
	 Re: Book searchers, [removed] Digest V96 #377
	 KNX 1070 in [removed]
	 Music Til Dawn
	 Still more Lone Ranger
	 HAVE GUN movie
	 Radio Yesteryear
	 Have Gun Will Travel
	 Re: AMERICAN AIRLINES "MUSIC TILL DAWN"
	 Re: Radio Yesteryear
	 Re: Radio Yesteryear #380
	 BELL TELEPHONE HOUR
	 Re: LONE RANGER SILVER BULLET NEWSLETTER
	 That IRC thing

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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 1996 15:57:36, -0500
Date: 09 Oct 96
From: DAVE@[removed] ( DAVID ALLAN   BOUCHER)
From: LJNF40A@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Was it Joe Besser?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

-- [ From: .. * [removed] #[removed] ] --


> >   To which the character responded, "Don't RUSH me!! You Crazy,
> >   you!"
> >   and another lisped line of his was, "OOOoooo, you're just so
> >   CRAZY, you!"
> > 
> >   Help! Who was this?

[removed] like Joe Besser to [removed]

There was a sisified(sp?) style of comedy that was in vogue at the time.
 Lou Costello did it with "I want my [removed]"  And Joe Besser had a
version of it when he would [removed]"Not So Harrrrddd!"  [removed]"Oh you
crazy [removed]"

I'm not sure if Joe Besser ever did any [removed] certainly in
Vaudeville.

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 14:20:43 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cartoon voices
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Bill Scherer noted that Jerold More (Moore?) was one of the voices for
Hanna-Barbera's 1966-67 _Fantastic Four_ cartoons.  (Dr Doom?)  Chet
would like to briefly mention one of the weirder voice castings I
remember hearing.  There was a Fantastic Four radio show for awhile,
and Bill Murray played Johnny Storm (the Human Torch).  "Flame on, you
knucklehead."  

The show lasted a very short time, and this Murray fellow was never
heard from again.

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quote of the day:  "No success will compensate for failure in the home."
                               -- President David O. McKay

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:40:21 -0400
From: DIANEK9331@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Yesteryear
Message-ID: <961009164018_206215449@[removed]>

Here is the info on Radio Yesteryear:

RADIO YESTERYEAR
Box C
Sandy Hook, CT 06482
1-800-243-0987

I could not find a web address.
Diane

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:01:59 -0400
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Spellcheck
Message-ID: <961009170158_122733800@[removed]>

   Unfortunately, no Spellcheck I know (unless you've made personal
additions) will help with all the OTR names.  On the Mr. District Attorney
postings, some have had it right and others [removed] be Jay Jostyn,
nor Josten.  Still another request asked about Jerold More.  That, of course,
is Gerald Mohr (The Adventures of Phillip Marlowe; The Adventures of Bill
Lance - anybody have any of those?; Crime Is My Pastime; Escape; Hallmark
Playhouse; The Lone Wolf; Nero Wolfe - just to name a scant few of his
credits.)  As to what he's doing now - not much - he died Nov. 10, 1968 at
the age of 54.

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 16:54:08 -0400
From: Charles Mazza <flash@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Superman Question
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

The episode "Dr. Roebling & The Voice Machine" is now playing at the Warner
Bros. web site. What i find odd is that it is only 5 minutes long rather
than the 15 minutes i was expecting. Does anyone know if this episode is
indeed only 5 minutes long or is there a problem with the recording at the site?

Charles Mazza

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 96 23:18 BST-1
From: midshires@[removed] (Andrew Emmerson)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: midshires@[removed]
Subject: Re: Book searchers, [removed] Digest V96 #377
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In-Reply-To: <m0vAf7A-000k3WC@[removed]>
BOOK SEARCH SERVICES:
I have used all three of these with good results. --Andy.

CULPIN'S BOOKSEARCH INTERNATIONAL, 3827 West 32nd Avenue, Denver, 
Colorado, 80211, USA (+1 303 455 0317, fax +1 303 433 8040).

Kate LAUGHLIN, The Book Searcher, 3637 Ashworth Ave. N., Seattle, WA 
98103, USA (+1 206-632-6993).

KEYSTONE BIBLIOPOLIST, Box 34427, Omaha, Nebraska, 68134, USA (tel/fax +1 
402 571 6965). Also sells huge selection of technical literature in the 
field of vintage technology. 

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:56:30 -0600
From: aerickse@[removed] (Anna Ericksen)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: KNX 1070 in [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Great News.  KNX 1070 in Los Angeles has changed some of Drama Hour lineup.
I get this station load and clear here in New Mexico.

They have added:  "Escape" Wed @ 0900 pst and "Screen Directors Playhouse"
on                    Tues @ 0900 pst.

They are doing some classic Escape shows this month.  

See Ya 

Carl

                        

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: ronhare@[removed] (Ron Hare)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Music Til Dawn
Message-Id: <v02130500ae819c5ae835@[[removed]]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Replying to Dick Fisher's question about Music 'Til Dawn LPs:

I have two Stereo LPs issued by Columbia Special Products. Both have light
music on one side and popular classics on the other. The first LP is
entitled "Music 'Til Dawn". The best part of this one is that it starts
with the original Sy Mann arrangement of the theme - "That's All". The
second is "Music 'Til Dawn Volume II". It has a new arrangement of "That's
All" done exclusively for this LP. Other than that, the musical tracks are
commonly available on other Columbia LPs and CDs and neither LP is
particularly interesting. There is no commentary, and the liner notes are
mostly purple-prose descriptions of the music.

However, in one corner of the liner notes for the second LP there is a list
of stations and hosts as of 1968:


The name "Music 'Til Dawn" is the title of the late-night radio program
sponsored by American Airlines on 10 stations across the country. The first
program was hosted by the late Bob Hall, on station WCBS in New York, the
night of April 13, 1953. The year 1968, therefore, marks the 15th
anniversary of this Peabody Award-winning progam of fine music. Today's
network of Music 'Til Dawn stations and their hosts are:
WEEI, Boston-Jack Lazare
WBBM, Chicago-Jay Andres
WLW, Cincinnati-Lee Stewart
KRLD, Dallas-Tony Garrett
WJR, Detroit-Jay Roberts
KNX, Los Angeles-George Walsh
WCBS, New York-Don Robertson
KOFM, Oklahoma City-Maurice Eaves
KCBS, San Francisco-Ken Ackerman
WTOP, Washington-Terry Hourigan.
Music 'Til Dawn's Producer is Lyman Clardy, and its Director, Robert H. Prall.


There still may be copies in used record stores, though I've been through a
well-stocked one here in Santa Clara and didn't find either. There's
nothing special on either LP, though, except for the original theme on
LP#1. Good luck in your search.

Ron Hare
ronhare@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:32:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Still more Lone Ranger
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I must differ with Chet Cox. All my sources state the legend of the Lone
Ranger was established before the serial was filmed. Including the ambush
of the Texas Rangers, which was at Grant's Pass on film. Also there were
20 rangers attacked instead of the six on radio. Fran Striker had nothing
to do with writing the chapterplay.

The Lone Ranger was just that on radio, one ranger with his indian companion,
not one of a group as he was in the serial. Four of the five ranger suspects
are dead by the end of chapter 15.

The chief heavy was renegade Confederate Captain Mark Smith whose plan was
to become dictator of Texas and loot the state at his leisure.

No radio shows were recorded before January, 1938 and the serial was released
in the middle of February, 1938. Republic's script writers worked from radio
scripts when formulating their screenplay. One thing that made the transition
from the serial to radio was Alberto Colombo's arrangement of "The William
Tell Overture". George Trendle liked it so much he asked for and received
transciptions of the music which was then incorporated into the radio show.

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:46:37 -0500
From: vintage@[removed] (Andy Blatt)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: HAVE GUN movie
Message-Id: <v01540b00ae8211fe7b5c@[[removed]]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I think everyone would be in agreement that a better choice for the lead of
Paladin in a HAVE GUN movie would include such people as Clint Eastwood, or
Bruce Willis.  Brian Dennehey (sp?) would also be an interesting choice --
maybe it's the cleft chin thing - Richard Boone had one and so does Travolta.
The thing to remember is the core audience for movies today is young male
youth, ages 12-24.  Just take a look at what's out there and you'll see the
pattern.
Also, Hollywood likes to have a star that appeals to that age group.
What was the core age group when TV first came on the scene?  What about radio?
Supposedly, young men 12-24 have access to all the discretionary income
they need.  I'm pretty certain that was not the case in 1940's or 1950'[removed]

In case anyone is interested, I have two or three dozen BIG JON & SPARKIE
(No School today) programs and several JACK KIRKWOOD shows. I believe some
folks were asking for these shows in past Digests.

Andy Blatt
Vintage Broadcasts

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:40:28 GMT
From: veedee@[removed] (Vincent R. Damiano)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Radio Yesteryear
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Radio Yesteryear 
 
Phone:800-243-0987 
 
email:radio@[removed] 
 
Fax:203-797-0819 
 
Box C 
 
Sandy Hook  CT  06482

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:32:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Have Gun Will Travel
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

> Lest we forget, HGWT was first and foremost a TV show.  The radio show
> was "adapted for radio" from TV scripts.  I've had a chance to
> "experience" both radio and TV versions of the same story, and generally
> --- heresy for the OTR newsletter --- the TV version was better, with
> more depth and complexity for Paladin and how he dealt with other
> characters and the situation.  Why?  The radio HGTV arrived when radio
> was already in its death throes and perhaps the best writers had already
> moved over to television.  More likely, rather than doing original
> stories based on the Paladin character, the radio show recycled TV
> scripts.  I've experienced both radio and TV versions of the same story
> on other programs (Dragnet, the Lone Ranger) in which the TV adaptation
> fell short.  Maybe it's very difficult to translate a story from one
> medium to another.

I used to watch HGWT on tv and listen to the same show
on the radio and I never noticed any real difference in
the story or the character.  I did enjoy it more on the
radio.

Barry

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:44:49 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Gruff <rsmfp@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: AMERICAN AIRLINES "MUSIC TILL DAWN"
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Greetings from the glacial [removed]

> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 12:38:07 EDT
> From: w9fjl@[removed] (RICHARD S. FISHER)
> Subject: AMERICAN AIRLINES "MUSIC TILL DAWN"

Richard wrote:
 
> FOR SEVERAL YEARS AMERICAN AIRLINES SPONSERED A LATE NIGHT CLASSICAL
> MUSIC PROGRAM CALLED "MUSIC TILL DAWN".  IT WAS ON ONE OF THE MAJOR
> NETWORKS-NOT SURE WHICH.

I used to listen to "Music Till Dawn" on KNX Radio in Los Angeles. It was
also on from KSL, but had a different "DJ." Several years ago, I was
driving down in LA and about drove off the freeway when the SAME quiet,
magic voice came out of KNX, on a daily cooking program. I immediately
wrote the former "DJ" for the program, Mel Baldwin. He gave me this
[removed] hope he doesn't appreciate my quoting a little of his letter: 

	"Music 'Til Dawn" started in 1953, and ran to about 1971. I did
	the show from '53 to '66 when I took a two year leave to sail the
	South Pacific, and George Walsh took over the show. When I
	returned in 1968, I did the show again at WBBM in Chicago from 
	Nov '68 until it went off the air."

Later in the letter he wrote:

	"'That's All' [the theme for the program] was written by 
	Dick Haymes brother Bob. He must have been the one in the audience
	the night your sister-in-law sang it at the Roosevelt."

As a side light, my sister-in-law, Weslia Whitfield, a WONDERFUL cabaret
singer, sang the song "Thats All," just for me and my family, one evening,
down at the Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood. She knew I'd loved that song all
my life, and hadn't heard it for [removed] Haymes was in the
audience and had given her ALL the lyrics for the song, I guess so she
could sing it for me. I had some tears in my eyes that evening. 
 
> ALSO AMERICAN AIRLINES OFFERED A 33 1/3 RECORD OF HIGHLIGHTS OF THE
> PROGRAM.  I INTENDED TO ORDER IT BUT NEVER DID. THE RECORD WAS OFFERED
> ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO WHILE I LIVED IN CHICAGO.

You might want to contact [removed] it is still there?
 
> DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW IF ANY "MUSIC TILL DAWN" DISKS OR TAPES ARE
> AVAILABLE AND IF SO WHERE CAN THEY BE OBTAINED.

[removed], IF you find a copy, could I inveigle you into copying [removed]
its not copy protected? 

Good [removed] you find [removed]'ll bet it is out there somewhere. 

Regards,
Gruff

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:48:41 -0400
From: Neubacher@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Radio Yesteryear
Message-ID: <961009224839_123046188@[removed]>

Address for Radio Yesteryear
Box C
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-0847

I'm not employed by them and do not have a financial interest.  By the way, I
just got the latest catalogue today and the have a slue of SUPERMAN programs
listed about 96 to be exact with each program have any number of episodes.
 The baseball program is mentioned #68  33 episodes at $[removed] per episode
equals $[removed] - 10%.

Bill Neubacher
NEUBACHER@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:27 -0400
From: Neubacher@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Radio Yesteryear #380
Message-ID: <961009225026_123047903@[removed]>

Forgot to mention E-mail radio@[removed]

Bill Neubacher
NEUBACHER@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 21:57:14 EDT
From: w9fjl@[removed] (RICHARD S. FISHER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: BELL TELEPHONE HOUR
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

HAVING RETIRED FROM AT&T I AM INTERESTED IN GETTING SOME BELL TELEPHONE
HOUR SHOWS.  I HAVE GOTTEN A FEW FROM TED DAVENPORT AND CAN'T THANK HIM
ENOUGH FOR THEM.

I AM INTERESTED IN "THE BELL TELEPHONE HOUR"  ITSELF- NOT-"MUSIC FROM
AMERICA" WHICH WAS THE AFRS VERSION. SINCE YOU COULD NOT GIVE ANY
COMMERCIAL MESSAGE ON AFRS THE WHOLE TITLE OF THE SHOW HAD TO BE CHANGED.

AT&T HAS MANY OF THE DISKS BUT WANTS $200 AND HOUR TO RESEARCH WHAT THEY
HAVE AND $[removed] EACH HALF HOUR FOR REPRODUCING THEM OFF THE DISK.  I TOLD
THEM TO FORGET IT!!!!!!!!!!!

ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

THANKS

DICK

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:24:57 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: LONE RANGER SILVER BULLET NEWSLETTER
Message-ID: <961009232456_540114971@[removed]>

     I neglected to give an address for those interested in obtaining THE
SILVER BULLET.  The LONE RANGER newsletter is published four times a year by:
Terry and Kay Klepey
[removed] Box 553
Forks, WA 98331
     Cost is $[removed] per issue or back issue; $[removed] for a 4-issue
subscription.  The newsletter features an enjoyable mix of info on premiums
and collectibles, interviews with the cast and crew of the TV series, and
events of interest to LONE RANGER fans like this week's Lone Pine Film
Festival in California (featuring the first showing of a new print of "Hi Yo
Silver," the feature version of the first LR serial) and next week's LONE
RANGER cast reunion with John Hart, Fred Foy, Dick Beals ("Dan Reid"), Elaine
Hyman, and Fran Striker, Jr. at the annual Friends of Old-Time Radio
convention in New Jersey. -- Anthony Tollin     

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Date: 9 Oct 1996 23:04:18 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: That IRC thing
Message-Id: <m0vBCIr-000k3LC@[removed]>

Hi, all, would someone tell me the IRC address for the chat again? I
wrote it down but Can't find it.
[removed] Yeah!!! Where did that Jack Benny show come from anyway?
[removed] so no one knows what happened to Roma wines?




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