Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #107
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Date: 4/16/2006 4:18 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 107
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Tap [removed]                        [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Siblings                              [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
  Hattie McDaniel and Brothers and Sis  [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  before they were famous               [ "John Abbott" <mraastro@[removed] ]
  4-16 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Wartime Music                         [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
  Re: before they were [removed] see  [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  The Starks: Were They Brothers?       [ "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed] ]
  Re:My Major Computer Problem          [ "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@m ]
  Don Pasquale Met Broadcast            [ Martin Fass <watchstop@frontiernet. ]
  ethnic radio                          [ ddunfee@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:50:09 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Tap [removed]

The only dancing I ever heard on the radio was tap dancing, on Major Bowes,
I think.  You couldn't hear any other kind of dancing.  Well, maybe the
Spanish and Russian, but I don't recall hearing any of that!

Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
Democrats: http://.[removed]
Kids o/t New Century: [removed]

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:51:01 -0400
From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Siblings

Anouncers Richard Stark and Charles Stark were brothers.

...and in the mid to late 60s, Dick was a Marine Colonel and Commander of
their public affairs office at 663 Fifth Ave, NYC. I was a Captain next door
in the Secretary Of the Air Force Office Of Information.

As one of the few OTR buffs in the vicinity I had a ball talking to "COL
Stark" about his broadcasting career. And I can still hear him say: "Camay,
the soap of beautiful women." Not on duty in the Marines, of course.

The WLS "National Barn Dance" had a huge hit on its hands in the 30s and 40s
with the simultaneous yodeling of the DeZurick Sisters. Eventually
Nashville's  Grand Ole Opry lured them away from Chicago, but WSM didn't
think "DeZurick" would work down South.

So they were renamed "The Cackle [removed]"

BILL  KNOWLTON

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:32:03 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Hattie McDaniel and Brothers and Sisters

I was ordering stamps online and saw that a current 39 cent stamp has been
issued with a very nice likeness of Hattie McDaniel.

I don't think the Dinning Sisters have been mentioned.  Favorites of mine.

I think Joan Banks appeared on a few episodes of husband Frank Lovejoy's
series 'Nightbeat'  They also did a number of 'Escape' and 'Whistler'
episodes together, also Columbia Workshop.  Some time after his
much-too-early death she began to appear as Joan Lovejoy

Martin Gabel and wife Arlene Francis appeared together with the Mercury
Theater a few times, he more often on his own, and they also appeared
together in a Mercury Theater Broadway production.

Peggy Lee and her then husband musician Dave Barbour appeared together on
the 'Chesterfield Supper Club"

Roy Rogers and Dale Evans.

I'm going to sneak in NTR brothers - Car Talk's Hall of Famers Tom and Ray
Magliozzi.

-Irene

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:32:14 -0400
From: "John Abbott" <mraastro@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  before they were famous

Well, I can only think of a couple, depending how you determine how famous
someone was:
Jack Webb, Hans Conreid, Howard McNear, Parley Baer Herb Vigran, Harry
Bartell, John Dehner, Joseph Kearns, Raymond Burr, Virginia Gregg, and
probably many, many more.
Many were the faces that showed up that noone really knew.

John C. Abbott

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:19:35 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  4-16 births/deaths

April 16th births

04-16-1889 - Charles Chaplin - London, England - d. 12-25-1977
actor: "Dodge Brothers Hour"
04-16-1895 - Mischa Mischakoff - Proskourov, Russia - d. 2-1-1981
violinist: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"; "NBC String Trio"
04-16-1897 - Milton J. Cross - NYC - d. 1-3-1975
announcer, commentator: (The Voice of the Met) "General Motors Concerts"
04-16-1898 - Marian Jordan - Peoria, IL - d. 4-7-1961
commedienne: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Kaltenmeyer's Kindergarten"
04-16-1904 - Fifi D'Orsay - Montreal, Quebec, Canada - d. 12-2-1983
singer: "Folies De Paris"; "This Is Your Life"
04-16-1913 - Les Tremayne - London, England - d. 12-19-2003
actor: Nick Charles "Advs. of the Thin Man"; Michael Waring "The Falcon"
04-16-1914 - John Hodiak - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 10-19-1955
actor: L'il Abner "L'il Abner"; Butch Cavendish "Lone Ranger"
04-16-1917 - Jean Holloway - d. 11-11-1989
writer: "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Mayor of the Town"; "Mr. President"
04-16-1918 - Spike Milligan - Ahmednagar, India - d. 2-27-2002
comedian: Eccles the Idiot, Miss Minnie Bannister, Count Moriarty
"Goon Show"
04-16-1920 - Barry Nelson - San Francisco, CA
actor: "Duffy's Tavern"; "Treasury Salute"; "Monitor"
04-16-1921 - Peter Ustinov - London, England - d. 3-28-2004
actor: "Freedom Forum"; "Mitch Miller Show"; "In Any Direction"
04-16-1924 - Henry Mancini - Cleveland, OH - d. 6-14-1994
orchestra leader: "Family Theatre"; "Voices of Vista"
04-16-1930 - Herbie Mann - NYC
jazz flutist: "Voices of Vista"; "Sounds of Freedom"
04-16-1931 - Edie Adams - Kingston, PA
singer, actor: "Stewart Foster Show"
04-16-1935 - Bobby Vinton - Canonsburg, PA
singer: "Christmas Seal Campaign"

April 16th deaths

01-04-1910 - Ann Jamison - Belfast, Ireland - d. 4-16-1961
singer: "An Evening with Romberg"; "The Packard Hour"
01-05-1916 - Alfred Ryder - NYC - d. 4-16-1995
actor: Sammie Goldberg "The Goldbergs"; Carl "Easy Aces"
03-25-1908 - David Lean - Croydon, Surrey, England - d. 4-16-1991
screenwriter, film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-04-1921 - Herb Purdum - d. 4-16-1993
writer: "Gunsmoke"
08-15-1885 - Edna Ferber - Kalamazoo, MI - d. 4-16-1968
author: "Cavalcade of America"; "Cables from Lisbon"; "Campbell
Playhouse"
09-10-1904 - Emery Deutsch - Budapest, Hungary - d. 4-16-1997
conductor: "Arabesque"; "Let's Pretend"
09-13-1924 - Scott Brady - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-16-1985
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-16-1919 - Andy Russell - Los Angeles, CA - d. 4-16-1992
singer: "Your Hit Parade"
12-07-1892 - Fay Bainter - Los Angeles, CA,  - d. 4-16-1968
actor: "Nobody's Children"; "Cavalcade of America"
12-16-1946 - Robert Urich - Toronto, OH - d. 4-16-2002
salesman: WGN Chicago, Illinois

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:20:24 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Wartime Music

Paul Gogh, speaking of the "wartime music" thread, asks,

Do 60's war protest songs qualify for this thread?

I guess if you consider the 1960s as part of the OTR era, they might.
Many of the World War songs were either patriotic or love songs, rather
than protest.  Some of the World War II songs, though, were gentle
complaints, such as "They're Either Too Young or Too Old," sung by female
vocalists complaining about the paucity of dating material.  Some of the
"World War II collections," though, had no war related songs, just songs
written in the 1939-1945 period.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:21:22 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: before they were [removed] seen
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In a message dated 4/15/06 4:40:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:

I am attempting to put together a lecture (with audio clips) of a program
entitled "Before they were famous" -these are people (mostly actors) who got
their start in radio, and then moved on to other things including television
and movies.

Being a big fan of TV's "Andy Griffith Show," I can think of two right off
the bat: Don Knotts (Windy Wails on "Bobby Benson's B Bar B" show) and Howard
McNear, Doc on radio's "Gunsmoke" and I think he even had a role in "The
Cinnamon Bear."

A lot of children of television might not also know about Agnes Moorehead and
her pre-Endora work on radio, including "Sorry Wrong Number" on "Suspense."
And let's not forget Orson Welles for that matter.

One far more recent example: Sarah Jessica Parker, who I believe once
appeared on "The CBS Radio Mystery Theatre."

Perhaps the ultimate example is sportscaster Ronald Reagan.

Dixon

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:06:26 -0400
From: "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Starks: Were They Brothers?

After posting yesterday that Richard and Charles Stark were brothers,
someone raised doubt about that.  I believed it only because someone told me
that years ago. I have no proof.  Now I find that they were born a year
apart in two different cities.  Does anyone know for sure?

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:32:17 -0400
From: "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@[removed];
To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re:My Major Computer Problem
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  Subject  My Major Computer Problem

  For those who may have been trying to contact me about
  Digest matters or other OTR stuff - my computer is undergoing major
problem(s)
  and we have been unable to make proper corrections as yet (Since Tuesday)
but
  our radio show is on as usual at Jerry Haendiges' Olde Tyme Radio Network
  ([removed])
  and the 24 hour message phone is still OK at 617-430-5000.  Hope we get
  cleared soon.
  Anyone have any dates/titles of LETS PRETEND on which William ("Billy")
  Redfield appeared?  Am hunting for his cousin who feels certain she heard
him,
  although I cannot find any listings.    Many thanks -
  Tom Heathwood
  HAPPY EASTER!!!       4/15

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:27:01 -0400
From: Martin Fass <watchstop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Don Pasquale Met Broadcast

Speaking for two of us, we are hoping one of you reading this made a
recording of the April 15th matinee broadcast which you would be
willing to share.  I'd be delighted to supply or replace the CD's
necessary (or tape) for any format of file.

Or your suggestions where to send an inquiry that opera listeners who
recorded the performance might read.

Thank you.

Martin Fass
Rochester, NY

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:27:10 -0400
From: ddunfee@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  ethnic radio

In the "radio history" post:

"1940 - The first all-Chinese commercial radio program was broadcast over
KSAN in San Francisco, CA."

Does anyone know what they broadcast?  I live in a city with a great deal
of ethnic identity and there are many many weekend, some other days, ethnic
based shows which broadcast music, news from the "old country", advertising
of ethnic goods and travel, good wishes for family events and similar, some
explanations of ethnic customs and holidays, religious services, and other
such things.  Some broadcast in english only, some mixed with alternation
in language of the same material and a few in original language only.

These seem to be bread and butter sources of income for many smaller
stations and one has the slogan "station of nations".  I have always
thought these left over from the early days of radio where anything was
broadcast to fill up airtime and didn't migrate to tv because of cost and
other such considerations.  I know there was yiddish radio in NY and no
doubt other full or nearly so such stations elsewhere and I would be
interested to know more about the history and role of ethnic radio,
including what content was developed as to forms of shows etc. and if there
was any form of network among large metro areas of the country for them.

                               XB
                                IC|XC

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