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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 97
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Decoding Rings [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
Re:Archie Shows. [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
Life with Luigi [ Swindling@[removed] ]
The Time Machine screenplay [ "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed] ]
The Big Story [ "Bill Rockhold" <brockhold@[removed] ]
Betty Johnson [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
Sherlock Holmes Radio Script [ "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed] ]
Captain Marvel Ring? [ "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@anchorwall. ]
Morals [ "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed]; ]
Re: Evelyn Keys & Lux [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed]; ]
Lemon Table [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
Several [removed] [ Christopher Lowell White <cncwhite@ ]
$64 Question [ "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed]; ]
The Ones That Got Away [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Glow. Little Glow-Worm, Glimmer ... [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
"It rings for thee ...." [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Evelyn Keyes on Lux [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Today in radio history (Wednesday) [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Re: Johnson Family [ sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn) ]
new Inner Sanctum [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Which "Monkey's Paq?" [ Tony Baechler <tony@[removed]; ]
Captain Midnight? [ danhughes@[removed] ]
Ovaltine program [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
violence in OTR [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
Shuffler Program [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:05:01 -0500
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Decoding Rings
Was a decoding Ring mentioned in Woody Allen's movie "Radio Days"?
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:05:05 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re:Archie Shows.
Ken asks:
> I am also looking for the run of Archie [removed] I've posted 2 weeks ago,
but haven't recieved one reply. Do they exist ?
Whoa Ken. Let me handle this!
First off, You are talking about "Archie Andrews" right? (Not "Archie" of
"Duffy's Tavern", right?) :)
I would never let a true, eager fan of the "Archie Andrews" show go
unfulfilled. But to be honest, I don't recall your original posting. I
certainly wouldn't have ignored you.
I think there may be 20 to 30 episodes in existence. (maybe [removed] but I'm
not certain). I know that the dealer, Ted Davenport of radio Memories has at
least 16/18 of them in his inventory. Contact him at TedOTR@[removed].
I know that over a hundred episodes exists in the Library of Congress,
(According to Elizabeth) but a fat lot of luck that does for anybody other
than "researchers". :)
While on this subject, Jeff G. also asked in a recent [removed] if there
were any Mp3 copies of the Archie Show in existence. [removed] sure can't
answer that one. Besides, I appears that Jeff is primarily interested in
trading. I do not know anyone who might be interested in trading "Archie"
shows.
Anyone out there who can assist these two fine gentlemen in my behalf? (I
gotta keep my fan base happy, ya know what I mean!!! :)
Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:05:14 -0500
From: Swindling@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Life with Luigi
Does anyone know if there is a fan club/site for Life with Luigi?
Donna Mayor <swindling@[removed];
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:12:24 -0500
From: "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Time Machine screenplay
To those of you who wrote about the OTR Time Machine might be interested in
the complete 1960
screenplay written by David Duncan, adapted from the [removed] Wells novel,
starring Rod Taylor and
Alan Young---The new Time Machine, 2002, uses the same screenplay, believe
it or not---If you've never read
a screenplay, you're in for a real treat--A screenplay is different from a
script in that it has everything
including shooting directions, descriptions, [removed] script just has the
words spoken. Mouseclick
the site below for a clear, easy to read screenplay--
[removed]
Enjoy--Edward in Philadelphia
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:12:48 -0500
From: "Bill Rockhold" <brockhold@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Big Story
I'm a long time reader of the Old Time Radio Digest. Until now, I've never
had anything to contribute. I still don't. However, I do have a question
that I'm sure any number of you could answer for me.
I grew up in a small farm town in Idaho and radio was an important
connection to the 'outside world'. One of my favorite programs was called
"The Big Story" sponsored by Pall Mall cigarettes. I have found no listings
for it an any of the radio logs I've so far discovered, and I've seen no
reference to it in this digest. It really did exist, didn't it ? Can
anyone enlighten me ?
Incidentally, I'm truly amazed by the amount of knowledge and the
willingness to share it by so many of the Digest contributors. Elizabeth
astounds me and Harlan Stone cracks me up.
Bill Rockhold
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:13:40 -0500
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Betty Johnson
Jim wrote:
Subject: Johnson Family Singers
There was Ma and Pa Johnson, at least two sons (twins, if I recall
correctly) and a daughter, Betty. Betty eventually made the big time,
winning Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts as a vocalist, I'm thinking. She
went on to be a regular performer on Don McNeill's Breakfast Club for
awhile and made recordings, one "I Dreamed" that climbed fairly high on
the charts in the 1950s.
I remember Betty Johnson and "I Dreamed." You're right; it was a pretty big
hit in 1956. I remember the date because I remember where I was when it
became a big hit. At least, it was a big hit in Chicago.
Back in those days I taped a weekly top-hits AM radio program on a big old
Bell reel-to-reel tape recorder. After each show I edited out the songs I
particularly liked. I literally cut out and taped together, end to end, the
songs to create a sort of "Greatest Hits of 1956" 7-inch reel. "I Dreamed"
was one of them.
Spence
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:20:55 -0500
From: "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Sherlock Holmes Radio Script
This Sherlock Holmes script, "The Musgrave Ritual"
aired on December 11, 1939, with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, of course,
is fascinating to read and
really fun to print out when the family gathers together.
It begins with the list of characters and sound effects; so it's easy to
assign parts, announcer, etc. and have a lot of joy doing it together---My
favorite is "The Hound of the Baskervilles," which I haven't found as yet---
Mouseclick below, and enjoy--
[removed]
Enjoy--Edward in Philadelphia
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:43:23 -0500
From: "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Captain Marvel Ring?
Charles - the ring you are describing in issue #96 sounds like one that
The (Barry Allen) Flash used to store his costume. According to the DC
Comics of my youth (OK, I still collect them), his costume was made of a
special material that expands on contact with the air "much like a life
raft expands", and shrinks in some mysterious way to fit into his ring.
(BTW, the current Flash (Wally West, Barry's nephew) has a costume
composed of the "speed force", which is what gives super speedsters
their power.) I haven't seen the ring you are describing. If the
lightning bolt is big on the top, tapering down to a point, it is likely
Captain Marvel. If it is a thin lightning bolt with a circle around it,
it may be a Flash replica. The compass may just be a gimmick.
Ron
[removed] Two postings of potential answers in two days for me!! Wow, I
must be smarter than I thought!! (I'll keep telling myself that). RV
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:43:39 -0500
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Morals
Speaking of [removed] in Margo Lane being the "constant companion" of
Lamont [removed] my late husband was playing opposite Mercedes
McCambridge in "Defense Attorney" on ABC, as her boyfriend and fellow
sleuth, in one show they mentioned going "up to the lake for the weekend".
One of my friends (?) wrote to me that they no longer would be listening to
the show because of this!
Lois Culver
KWLK Radio (Mutual) Longview, WA 1941-44
KFI Radio (NBC) Los Angeles CA 1945-47, 50-53
Widow of Howard Culver, actor
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:31:29 -0500
From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Evelyn Keys & Lux
Walden Hughes asked about Evelyn Keyes' appearances on the Lux Radio
Theater.
>From my log of Lux Radio Theater I found the following four appearances,
there may be more as not all shows have cast lists.
01-26-42 -- 336
Here Comes Mr. Jordon
(Cary Grant, Evelyn Keyes, James Gleason, Claude Rains)
04-15-46 -- 524
Whistle Stop
Alan Ladd, Evelyn Keyes
02-16-48 -- 604
The Jolson Story
(Al Jolson, Evelyn Keyes, William Demerest, Ludwig Donet)
04-09-51 -- 742
The Third Man
Joseph Cotten, Evelyn Keyes
Gerry Wright
ZoneZebra Productions
San Francisco
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:32:01 -0500
From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lemon Table
Day-before-yesterday, I wrote:
In burlesque, the time-honored routines like "Lemon Table" and "Slowly I
Turned" must have been original once - perhaps around the time of Christ,
maybe ...
...about which Doug Leary asked:
I'm familiar with "Slowly I turned" but what was "Lemon Table" about?
It's a variation on the old shell game. There's a pitchman standing at a
table, offering rubes the chance to "find the lemon under the bowl and win
a prize." As always, there's a shill there who wins over and over, after
which the rube comes up and askes to try. This time, the pitchman puts a
lemon under a bowl and moves the bowls around but it is revealed to the
audience that there is a hole in the table through which the lemon will
always fall, meaning the rube can never win. The rube can't see the lemon
fall, since he's focusing on the bowls, but the audience can.
Abbott & Costello performed this routine on the "Colgate Comedy Hour" in
the early 1950's. According to Steve Allen, Costello also did the bit on
his "Tonight Show" as well. The Colgate version can be seen on the VHS
videocassette "Abbott & Costello: Live From the Colgate Comedy Hour, Vol.
1" (Questar, Inc.).
Harlan
Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
Free Newsletter: [removed]
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:32:59 -0500
From: Christopher Lowell White <cncwhite@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Several [removed]
HI,
I just wanted to ask several questions. First of all, I had heard that TV
Land was showing old episodes of Dragnet. Does anyone know when these are
on? Second, my friend and I were debating on which partner on the Abbott
and Costello show died penniless. I thought it was Costello but my friend
thought it was Bud Abbott. Which one of us is right? My friend really likes
the Abbott and Costello show but he does not like any other otr shows
claiming they are too boring. How can I get him interested in otr? If
anyone has any information on any of these subjects please contact me.
Thanks,
Bryant White
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:34:42 -0500
From: "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: $64 Question
Has my mind gone screwy in these sunset (golden) years? Push Pull, Click
Click change blades that quick.
Wasn't that Eversharp Schick? Didn't they sponsor the $64 Question at some
time? Host was Phil Baker?
Ed Kindred
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:35:29 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Ones That Got Away
A Joseph Ross, reviewing my mention of cryptological premiums, observed,
You have a pretty exhaustive list of OTR decoder premiums, but you've
missed one. The Space Patrol rocket cockpit, offered by Nestles in 1954
on both the radio and television versions of Space Patrol, contained both
a coder and a decoder.
Nor did I mention the Space Patrol Decoder Buckle and Belt, nor the Bobby
Benson Cardboard Code Rule and Code Book. Can't win e'm all. :-)
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:36:01 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Glow. Little Glow-Worm, Glimmer ...
Joseph Onorato asks,
early 40'[removed] I got a glow in the dark [removed] <snip> ...I
'seem' to connect it with a Lone
Ranger [removed] [removed] [removed] made of a thick [removed]
[removed] "it glowed in the dark
Well, The Lone Ranger did have a Glo-In-Dark Safety Belt in 1941, and a
Blackout Kit in 1942, but I know of no other luminous Lone Ranger items
in the '40s. The Blackout Kit was primarily sheets of luminous paper.
Red Ryder had a Magic Glowing Membership Badge, but I'm unsure when it
was issued.
Of course, it might not have been a premium.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:36:38 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "It rings for thee ...."
Thomas Mason notes,
Anyone who cannot find the offer for the brand new Ovaltine Decoder
Ring on an Ovaltine jar, can contact Himmel Nutrition who now owns
Ovaltine, for information as to whether the offer is still open.
Actually, as far as I know, the offer is closed. I have a friend in
England who's heavily into cryptosystems, and I tried last Fall to see
whether Himmel had any left. I was told the offer was closed, and that
the new labels on the Ovaltine cans no longer have the offer.
Since then, an FM radio station on the West Coast offered a Secret
Decoder Ring that was exactly like the Ovaltine ring, save for the
identification ([removed], same cipher alphabet and number scale). They were
given out for identification.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:55:44 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Evelyn Keyes on Lux
In response to the query about Evelyn Keyes appearances on the Lux Radio
Theatre:
6-21-37
Monsieur Beaucaire
"Intermission Guest"
3-21-38
The Man Who Played God
"Girl in Park"
1-26-42
Here Comes Mr. Jordan
"Betty"
4-15-46
Whistle Stop
"Mary"
5-12-47
Johnny O'Clock
"She was to appear on this program
but she was indisposed, Marguerite
Chapman took her place"
2-16-48
The Jolson Story
"Julie Benson"
1-3-49
The Mating of Millie
"Millie"
4-9-51
The Third Man
"Anna Schmidt"
5-21-51
Wild Geese
"Jane"
I gleaned this information from the wonderful book "Lux Presents Hollywood A
Show-by-Show History of the Lux Radio Theatre and the Lux Video Theatre,
1934-1957" by Connie Billips and Arthur Pierce.
I hope that this information is useful.
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Make your day just a little better,
Listen to an Old Time Radio Program.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:05:33 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history (Wednesday)
From Those Were The Days --
1923 - A great improvement in radio receivers was advertised. The new
models had a concealed speaker and eliminated the need for headphones,
which were considered a nuisance because they were so heavy to wear and
messed up hairdos. The new radios were also said to have a "foolproof"
design.
Joe
--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:08:44 -0500
From: sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Johnson Family
Bill! There was at least one more "Johnson Family". In the 30's I did
sound effects on a transcribed series , recorded at 6000 Sunset
Recorders with that name. If my memory serves me right the son was
played by Walter Tetley. Ginny Johnson was one of the actors (actresses)
I can't remember the names of the others. I wish we could still have
actresses like Lurene Tuttle and Paula Winslow! I guess the times of HE
men and SHE women have vanished from our movie screens.
They've been replaced by a computor and special effects.
WOOPS! I've switched [removed] feed back from fans?
Ray.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:08:18 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: new Inner Sanctum
Two Inner Sanctum developments, one personal:
1. Lou Genco will be posting a revised list of the "existing Inner Sanctum"
episodes on his site within a few days. People have e-mailed asking me if I
revised that list since, and surprisingly, some new episodes (even partials)
surfaced as a result. Yea!
2. In response to many requests, I finally broke down and paid my little
sister to build a web-site listing all the books I've written or co-written
in the past four or five years. There's probably nothing new most people
don't know of, and it does not list any of the international books that I
contributed a select chapter/appendix for. The site also lists the three
books scheduled to be published this 2002 year. Virginia, my little sister,
said all of the bugs she wanted to iron out should be gone - if not, let her
know. Now those of you who keep asking to e-mail a list of what I've done -
visit the site, all questions answered, including the Inner Sanctum
Mysteries.
[removed]
(Hopefully I typed the web address correctly this time!)
3. I'm switching jobs next week (I've been at my old 9-5 for about four
years now) and since everyone who phones me at work is probably on this
digest, I'm dropping an FYI in advance. Please don't phone me at that
number after this week - I will have a new number to be reached - as soon as
I get the number to my new office, I'll forward it on.
Best wishes,
Martin
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:53:52 -0500
From: Tony Baechler <tony@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Which "Monkey's Paq?"
Hello. I have a copy of this show but have no idea what broadcast it is,
and maybe someone can help. It has no openings, closings or credits. It
has a very small cast, possibly British. It has one or two instruments
playing music. I think music plays in the background throughout the
story. It is a mix of narrative and drama, IE someone reads part and the
few actors act out the next part. It could be in two parts but it is hard
to tell. Thanks for any help.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:13:11 -0500
From: danhughes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Captain Midnight?
About 1955 or so I sent in for a premium. It was a pair of binoculars
(actually cardboard field glasses) with a tight elastic strap, so they
stayed on your head (in viewing position) and you didn't have to hold
them up to your eyes. I can remember watching planes flying overhead
through these things.
Anybody remember these? Who used them as premiums (I think they may have
been from Ralston)?
Thanks!
---Dan
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:53:57 -0500
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ovaltine program
It may just be me, but every time I think of Ovaltine
and the program they sponsored on OTR, I tend to recall
a young curly haired girl and a dog. Don't ask me why.
The only OTR program I can recall with such characters
is "Little Orphan Annie". Could this be it?
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:59:59 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: violence in OTR
Back when I produced The History of Radio cassette and CD album, I was
trying to do more than just play excerpts of shows, so I looked for
interesting bits of information. One of the things I noticed was how many
different ways people were killed on different programs.
Much more imaginative than what is on TV today. Those of you that have this
set, listen to the section on mystery shows. In just a few minutes you will
hear about have a dozen ways to do someone in.
The point I made about this much violence on radio was that since we didn't
actually see it happening, it was not really as violent as seeing it on TV
today.
It is kind of like the old suspense movies. A lot of things took place off
screen. Today, most film producers feel that have to show you everything.
I'm in the film business and have often said that just because we have the
ability (using computer and model graphics) to show someone's head being
chopped off, doesn't mean we really have to show it.
I am much more shocked by having the editor jump to a cut I was not
expecting than to watch actual gore take place on the screen.
Radio was like that. Scare you without actually showing you the graphics.
Your mind did that.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:00:11 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shuffler Program
It was brought to my attention that the Shuffler program I mentioned in my
last posting can not be found on the URL I listed.
Instead go to [removed] and in the search area type in shuffler. You'll
get several hits. Pick the one that describes a file converter.
Fred Berney [removed]
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