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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2006 : Issue 146
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Favorite moments [ Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed] ]
Best Horror Program [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
Re: Questions about Superman et al [ Brightstar2761@[removed] ]
Re Favorite Radio Moment [ Brightstar2761@[removed] ]
Re: Suspense Shows [ Brightstar2761@[removed] ]
Horror Show [ Brightstar2761@[removed] ]
Re: Three Skeleton Key [ Jed Dolnick <jdolnick@[removed]; ]
Re: Three Skelton Key [ stewwright@[removed] ]
Farm news [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
Re: Three Skeleton Key [ Frank Passage <fpassage@[removed]; ]
WXYZ Book [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
best overall horror show on otr? [ Grams46@[removed] ]
Scary OTR Shows [ Matthew561@[removed] ]
Re: Amos & Andy Annuaal Christmas Sh [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
San Francisco Final [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
Three Skeleton Key [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
Re: Headline Edition Blooper [ dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Best OTR horror series [ <mikeandzachary@[removed]; ]
Radio Series Scripts (of 1000 Oaks) [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
Hi Clark, I'm [removed] [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
WXYZ wrap up [ "Dave Adams" <dadams@[removed]; ]
Harry Conn [ Dancingdays72777@[removed] ]
Philadelphia radio affiliates [ Dancingdays72777@[removed] ]
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 12:38:49 -0400
From: Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Favorite moments
In order:
Fibber Loses his Keys on Christams Eve (1947) The
family listens to this every Christmas Eve with the
lights off and a roaring fire in the hearth and then
its the Bing Crosby Christmas show with Dixie and the
4 boys (1950).
The family moment is just as important as the audio.
June 6, 1944. Broadcasting grows up. A great national
moment from the Greatest Generation.
Bing gets his Oscar, 1945. Bob Hope gets emotional as
his "roadie" gets his due.
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 12:48:29 -0400
From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Best Horror Program
In #145, mj asked:
Hi there. What is, in anyone's opinion, the best
overall horror show on otr? not just episode,
but the series that consistently had the most
scary, well written and acted horror shows?
I find this question very hard to answer. Some programs like Suspense
and Escape tend to be consistently good, but only a few episodes are
what I would call Horror programs. Most are just straight mysteries.
Other shows that are what I would consider closer to true Horror
programs (Witch's Tale, Sealed Book, etc.) tend to really vary in
quality. Some episodes are really good stories, but most barely claw
their way up to average.
But there are two that I would recommend. Inner Sanctum Mysteries, to
me, tend to be better on average than the other horror series. There
are some duds in there, but episode-for-episode, they're better than the
other programs.
However, there is one horror show that really stands out: Quiet Please.
The writing is very good, the shows have a consistently spooky
atmosphere, even the piano opening is creepy. I would definitely
recommend Quiet Please.
-chris holm
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 12:50:33 -0400
From: Brightstar2761@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Questions about Superman et al
Superman and Batman learned each other's secret identities in the story
immediately after Superman's battle with the Atom Man (that places it in
late [removed] can't remember the exact date off hand)
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:09:26 -0400
From: Brightstar2761@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re Favorite Radio Moment
You can find the moment you're discussing at the earthstation1 website
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:09:39 -0400
From: Brightstar2761@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Suspense Shows
I sincerely hope Mr Norris can find the 3/20/47 version of The
[removed] according to the information I have, this is one of the missing
episodes of Suspense. The relatively good news is this story was repeated
twice [removed] and both subsequent shows are available
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:09:49 -0400
From: Brightstar2761@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Horror Show
IMO the best overall Horror series is Light's [removed] Quiet Please runs a
very close second
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:32:07 -0400
From: Jed Dolnick <jdolnick@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Three Skeleton Key
I'm sure others will reply that Elliott Reid was Jean in the other version of
Three Skeleton Key.
I had the honor of playing Jean in the FreeQuincy Radio Theater re-creation
of the broadcast earlier this year, here in West Bend WI. Of course, Reid and
Price had distinct voices, and I wouldn't have been foolish enough to try to
imitate Price! But each delivered their lines [removed] rhythm,
emphasis on certain words, speed, etc. Price was the "master" in his radio
[removed] but this time, I thought that Reid handled the role better.
Jed Dolnick
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:34:42 -0400
From: stewwright@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Three Skelton Key
The recording that I have for Three Skeleton Key didn't have Vincent Price,
but it was on "Escape" and William Conrad played Louis (Louie?). Were there
two separate versions?
Three Skeleton Key was produced on ESCAPE 3 times.
Here is the pertinent information on those ESCAPE productions:
Three Skeleton Key 11/15/1949
Director: William N. Robson
Cast:
Elliott Reid as Jean
William Conrad as Louis
Harry Bartell as Auguste
Three Skeleton Key 03/17/1950
Director: William N. Robson
Cast:
Vincent Price as Jean
Jeff Corey as Louis
Harry Bartell as Auguste.
Three Skeleton Key 08/09/1953
Director: Antony Ellis
Cast:
Ben Wright as Jean
Paul Frees as Louis
Jay Novello as Auguste
Three Skeleton Key was also produced on SUSPENSE twice:
11/11/1956
10/19/1958
At the REPS Seattle OTR Convention a few years ago "Three Skeleton Key" was
one of the recreations.
It featured Harry Bartell as Auguste and Elliott Reid as Jean recreating
their roles from the 1949 production.
Chris Conrad, the son of William Conrad, also appeared in the recreation. If
I remember correctly Chris was the Voice of ESCAPE, a role his father
frequently played.
Signing off for now,
Stewart
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:35:08 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Farm news
B. Ray asked if farm news is still broadcast today. The answer is a
resounding "Yes!"
All of our local AM and FM stations broadcast farm news, commodity reports,
weather related to crops, etc. There is even a network dedicated to farm
news: the American Ag Network. I think it is based out of Fargo, ND.
It is likely that all our neighboring states have farm news programs: North
Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, and Wyoming.
I think our farm news either precedes or follows "Paul Harvey news and
comment." Paul seldom talks about farm news.
I wonder if states further east, south, and west have farm programs? And
north into Canada?
Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
[removed]~stmarkch/
Democrats: [removed]
Kids o/t New Century: [removed]
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:21:07 -0400
From: Frank Passage <fpassage@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Three Skeleton Key
The recording that I have for Three Skeleton Key didn't
have Vincent Price, but it was on "Escape" and William
Conrad played Louis (Louie?). Were there two separate
versions?
There were THREE separate versions:
11-15-49, Cast: Elliott Reid, Harry Bartell, William Conrad
03-17-50, Cast: Harry Bartell, Jeff Corey, Vincent Price
08-09-53, Cast: Ben Wright, Jay Novello, Paul Frees
Frank
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:21:39 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: WXYZ Book
Wyxie wonderland : an unauthorized 50-year diary of WXYZ Detroit
I checked out [removed], [removed], and [removed] for the book
and the latter showed three copies available, one for about $92. That's why I
provided the full link for Alibris.
Thanx,
B. Ray
W9KEE
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:22:10 -0400
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: best overall horror show on otr?
knight555@[removed] asks:
What is, in anyone's opinion, the best overall horror show on otr?
arch obler's program - "lights out" still scares me.
peace from kathy
support our troops; end the war
john 3:16
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:25:31 -0400
From: Matthew561@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Scary OTR Shows
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In a message dated 5/26/2006 11:19:00 AM Central Standard Time,
knight555@[removed]
writes:
Hi there. What is, in anyone's opinion, the best overall horror show
on otr? not just episode, but the series that consistently had the
most scary, well written and acted horror shows?
Quiet Please - The Thing On The Fourable Board - 08/09/48
Hands down, no question. This was the best series and the scariest show.
The acting by the man who spoke to you (Ernest Chappell) was the greatest,
breathing real believable life into the characters Wyllis Cooper wrote each
week.
Cooper getting his ideas from an alien in a bar. Not sure this would be
considered technically a horror show, but the series was many things and I
guess
being sorta horror show was one of them.
FWIW, before anyone votes for Inner Sanctum or I love Mystery, in my world
those bumps in the night better not be explained by a pair of fuzzy bear
slippers at the last second. Real terror has to not cheat in the final reel
and at
the last second. Carlton Morse may have been a genius, but he and Mr. Brown
cheated every week. I know these shows were the audio equivalent of Pulp's
Weird
Menace genre, but true "Horror" is what it is
Mark
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:51:04 -0400
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Amos & Andy Annuaal Christmas Show
Another OTR Fan, Kenneth Clarke
You are correct the Chriatmas show was great, in fact it was so great that
it was repated for many Christmases from Dec 1943 for maybe 8 or more yrars.
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 18:02:11 -0400
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: San Francisco Final
Hi, I am trying to find out more about a series called "San Francisco
Final" that starred Jeff Chandler. I am not even sure if it ever
broadcast or if the one surviving episode was some kind of audition. It
appears to have come out of the SF area in 1954 (show is dated
7/26/1954) and starred all the regular west coast, SF actors including
Harry Bartell and Lillian Buyeff among others.
I searched all the newspaper archives I have access to including the big
ones and cannot find anything. I know that this was smack in the middle
of a turbulent time for Chandler. He had defied his studio Universal
International refusing to appear in one of the films they wanted him in.
He was having an affair with Gloria DeHaven and in a month or so from
this date, his wife would be suing him for divorce citing cruelty. And
his career seemed on the upswing.
If anyone knows any more about the series, I would appreciate an off
digest email, or you can respond via the digest if no one minds. Things
such as 1. did it broadcast? 2. was it only a summer show?
I have Hickerson's book, so you don't need to repeat him or Goldin's
listing. The quality of the episode is very good in terms of production
and it was written by the dream team of Friedkin and Fine. If any of the
SPERDVAC people know anything that would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim Widner
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 18:04:49 -0400
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Three Skeleton Key
The recording that I have for Three Skeleton Key didn't have Vincent Price,
but it was on "Escape" and William Conrad played Louis (Louie?). Were there
two separate versions?
Mike
I have 3 three Skelton Key shows 11/15/1949 Escape with Wm Conrad and 2
Suspense 11/11/1956 & 10/19/1958 ( repeat) with Vincent Price.
Logs show that Escape 2 played others 3/17/50 with Vincent Price and 8/9/53
with Ben Wright.
It is possible that some other mystery series may have aired it again.
Frank McGurn
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 19:04:21 -0400
From: dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Headline Edition Blooper
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There's an MP3 of it out there on the Web somewhere, and an edited
version has been released on some of the Bloopers compilations.
I have the Kermit Shafer version of that one ("Headline Edition"). What a
funny clip. "Well, mother told me there would be days like [removed]" One day
I'm going to record the real bloopers off my Kermit Shafer albums (Lowell
Thomas, etc.) and not the re-created, even fictional ones (Uncle Don).
Dixon
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 19:04:31 -0400
From: <mikeandzachary@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Best OTR horror series
I've heard a lot of OTR horror shows over my years of collecting. I'd give
first prize to LIGHTS OUT, with QUIET, PLEASE a *very* close second.
Mike Murphy
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 20:44:57 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Series Scripts (of 1000 Oaks)
On Friday, May 26, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Jim Cox wrote:
There's a new book just released from McFarland & Co.
compiled by Jeanette M. Berard and Klaudia Englund titled
"Radio Series Scripts, 1930-2001." It turned out not to be actual
scripts but just a
listing of those housed at the Thousand Oaks (California)
Library. So don't be expecting to find any scripts!
Thousand Oaks doesn't let photocopy scripts and other research
materials without presenting written permission in advance
from all copyright holders to allow you to do so. This
throws a damper on one's ability to gain a storehouse
of data on a visit, even a visit that extends over several
days.
True, sadly all true. Despite the cordiality of the library staff,
they are bound by the dictates of 1000 Oaks (the town, not the library)
so EVERYTHING in their archives is afforded the ultimate in protection,
including even those in public domain or those that were never
copyrighted. Case in point: I spent a few days at that library, taking
careful handwritten notes (which is permitted) on their "Candy Matson"
script collection. I stumbled across a "Candy Matson" parody of three
pages, obviously written by Monty Masters, probably for a social in his
home. Pointing out to the librarian that this could not have been
copyrighted, I asked for permission to xerox it. "Absolutely not" was
the official reply. I went on to argue that since Monty and Natalie
Masters owned the show, and they were dead, as was their sole heir (the
son) I could not get written permission from the "copyright holders."
This plea also fell on deaf ears.
On the other hand, this book by Bernard & Englund, while it may be of
some convenience to researchers, probably isn't necessary since the
1000 Oaks library staff will respond to any phone call or email from a
researcher (as they did me) and respond quickly with a detailed list of
their holdings in any category you request.
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 20:45:33 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hi Clark, I'm [removed]
On Friday, May 26, 2006, at 12:18 PM,Kenneth Clarke wrote:
Batman and Robin were introduced on the Adventures of Superman. My
simple questions about this fact is: Did
Superman know their real identities and vice versa? Or not? If not,
did they just know of each other as Batman, Robin, and Superman and
occasionally have their paths cross when helping each other with
solving crimes?
In all the episodes I have of "Superman" that involve the dynamic duo,
all three know each other by their superhero names as well as their
secret identities. In one of these episodes, Batman (as Bruce) uses his
knowledge of makeup to disguise Clark Kent to be very ill so Perry
White does not discover he's Superman.
In another episode I well recall from my mis-spent youth, Superman had
to make a public appearance which would subject him to the terrible
risk of a piece of Krypton. As Superman's request, Batman took off his
mask, put on Superman's costume and attended the affair.
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 21:45:59 -0400
From: "Dave Adams" <dadams@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: WXYZ wrap up
For my money, the deffinitive 'in depth' work on WXYZ is the book, 'WYXIE
WONDERLAND,' masterfully and candidly written by Dick Osgood, who worked at
the station for 36 years. You'll find EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about
George W. Trendle, The Lone Ranger, Green Hornet, Sgt. Preston and a whole
lot more about the 'behind the scenes' at WXYZ. Additionally, it's a wonderful
history of national and local radio.
Thanks to everyone public and private that gave me helpful feedback on this
topic; Joe, Raymond, Jim, Rob and Michael. Great resource this list is.
I came across this 3 hour show; a tribute to Detroit [removed]'t listened
very far in yet but it sounds promising;
[removed]
Below is a breakdown of what is in the Net35 show.
I hope grabbing this and posting it is okay- I recommend visiting this
useful site
- -------------------------------------------------
Challenge of the Yukon - episode # 303 "Return to the Crime"
originally aired October 1, 1943 on WXYZ, Detroit, The Michigan Radio Network
and via Transcription
Starring: Jay Michael as Sgt. Preston, Dewey Cole as Yukon King, Bill Morgan
announcing.
Sustained
Special Note: Audio restoration on "Challenge of the Yukon" was done by Jerry
Haendiges.
Click here to take advantage of his audio restoration services.
The Lone Ranger - "Trouble on the Railroad" aka "Trestle of Death"
originally aired January 27, 1939 on WXYZ, Detroit and MUTUAL
Starring: Earle Graser as The Lone Ranger, John Todd as Tonto, Brace Beemer
announcing.
Sponsors: Silvercup Bread (most of the [removed]), Gingham Bread (Western [removed]),
Merita Bread (Southern [removed])
The Green Hornet - "Death in the Dark"
originally aired August 31, 1946 on WXYZ, Detroit and ABC
Starring: Bob Hall as The Green Hornet, Rollon Parker, Lee Allman, Gil Shea,
Paul Hughes, Bill Saunders, Elaine Alpert, John Todd, Bob Hite announcing.
Sustained
The Hermit's Cave aka The Little Theatre of the Air- "Spirit Vengeance"
originally aired between 1935 and the mid-40's on WJR, Detroit and via
Transcription
Starring: Detroit Acting Troupe "The Mummers".
Sponsor: Olga Coal
Show World - "Edward Everett Horton is interviewed"
originally aired January 8, 1940 on WXYZ, Detroit and The Michigan Radio
Network
Starring: Dick Osgood hosts, Edward Everett Horton is special guest, Fielden
Farrington announcing.
Sustained
Special Note: Audio restoration on "Show World" was done by Jerry Haendiges.
Click here to take advantage of his audio restoration services.
Challenge of the Yukon - episode # 304 "King Spots Murder"
originally aired October 8, 1943 on WXYZ, Detroit, The Michigan Radio Network
and via Transcription
Starring: Jay Michael as Sgt. Preston, Dewey Cole as Yukon King, Bill Morgan
announcing.
Sustained
Special Note: Audio restoration on "Challenge of the Yukon" was done by Jerry
Haendiges.
Click here to take advantage of his audio restoration services.
-Dave
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 21:46:10 -0400
From: Dancingdays72777@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Harry Conn
Whatever became of Jack Benny's former writer Harry Conn? I know he bailed
on Jack to work with Joe [removed] I've never found any record of him
after
this point.
Matt
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 21:46:25 -0400
From: Dancingdays72777@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Philadelphia radio affiliates
Does anyone know what the network affiliates in Philadelphia were back in
the 30's and 40's for NBC, CBS, Blue/ABC, and Mutual? I believe WIP was the
mutual affiliate but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Thanks,
Matt
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