Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #59
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Date: 2/16/2002 9:03 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 59
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Tonto's original horse                [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
      JOHN DEHNER and WILLIAM CONRAD alert  [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
      Historical Perspective                [ "Poindexter" <poindexter12@[removed]; ]
      Re: Themes                            [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      Lone Ranger Book and WYXIE Wonderlan  [ Richard Fisher <w9fjl@[removed]; ]
      re Ad Lib Benny                       [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
      Re: Theme compilation                 [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      info on mp3 players                   [ leon217@[removed] ]
      Re: Themes                            [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      'The Whistler' in the Midwest         [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
      Scopes Monkey Trial                   [ "Arte" <arte@[removed]; ]
      The Whistler Knows The Nameless Terr  [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:53:41 -0500
    From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Tonto's original horse

    In a message dated 2/14/02 1:39:19 PM, Allen writes:

>     If you noticed that in the Grasser series Tonto had a different horse
>     than to what we all know as Scot. The horse's name was called Feather. Does
>     any one know when Tonto changed horses?

    ***Tonto's original horse was White Feller, not Feather.  (Feller for short.)
     White Feller was replaced by Scout (a Paint) circa 1938 after the producers
    of the movie serial complained that two white horses would detract from the
    visual power of a single white horse. --Anthony Tollin***

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:54:21 -0500
    From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: JOHN DEHNER and WILLIAM CONRAD alert

    For those interested in seeing what radio veteran John Dehner looks like
    onscreen, the Western Channel is airing Disney's THE SIGN OF ZORRO this month
    (a compilation film derived from the first 13 episodes of the 1957-59 TV
    series starring Guy Williams).  Dehner has a nice part as the Viceroy near
    the end.  THE SIGN OF ZORRO airs February 17 (4 AM & 12:05 PM) and February
    25 (3:05 PM and 11:10 PM).  And while it's not playing this month, Dehner
    fans might want to keep an eye out for THE LEFT-HANDED GUN in which John
    Dehner co-stars as Pat Garratt opposite Paul Newman as Billy the Kid.

    Also, the Mystery Channel is airing the film version of SORRY, WRONG NUMBER
    (with Barbara Stanwyck, Burt Lancaster and William Conrad) on February 16
    (9:15 AM), Feb. 21 (11:10 AM), Feb. 26 (9:20 AM and Feb. 27 (5:15 AM); while
    Turner Classic Movies is airing the film February 19 (8:35 AM).  All times
    are Eastern Standard Time.
    --Anthony Tollin

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:52:40 -0500
    From: "Poindexter" <poindexter12@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Historical Perspective

    I listen to OTR to be entertained, but every once in a while, I hear a
    program that gives me a completely different perspective on something that I
    know only as an historical event.

    Listening to a Lux Theater, before the curtain rose on "Front Page", Mr.
    DeMille announced that Amelia Earhart would not be able to join them as
    scheduled this evening due to unforseen delays in her flight around the
    world.

    After the program, he said something to the effect that by next Monday
    night, her flight would surely be completed and she would join him on stage
    as a guest.

    Now I've got to find the program that followed "Front Page" and listen to it
    so I can see how it was handled.

    Amelia Earhart is a name known to me only from history books, but listening
    to this program it got me to thinking what it must have been like to follow
    her progress in the newspapers and on radio as it was happening, and the
    shock of her disappearance.

    Any insights from those mature enough to remember it would be appreciated.
    Was it one of those situations where people remembered where they were and
    what they were doing when they heard the news?  Or was it a low key bump in
    the road that only got bigger with each day that passed?

    Thank you for your time.

    Poindexter

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:33:02 -0500
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: Themes

    Richard Pratz asks:

>     Has anyone ever compiled a tape of OTR themes and/or
>     signature [removed]  I'd love to hear the original openings/closings of some
>     of the old shows.

    I don't know if I have the specific openings that Richard mentioned in his
    [removed] but when I was at Showcase IX in Seattle, I bought a R-t-R tape
    recorder that came with a tape of OTR show openings.  The tape was playing
    on the machine in the dealer's room throughout the two days.  I offered to
    leave it with its owner, but he insisted it was part of the purchase.  It
    runs either two or three hours (either 1200 or 1800 ft at [removed] ips), and
    Richard, if you're interested, you can have it.  Contact me off-list with a
    mailing address.  If Richard's not interested, the first person who contacts
    me can have it.

    Michael J. Hayde

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:13:15 -0500
    From: Richard Fisher <w9fjl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Lone Ranger Book and WYXIE Wonderland

    In regard to the question in the last digest about "A Pictorial History
    of the Lone Ranger" by Dave Holland I checked my favorite used book site
    [removed] and found there are three copies available.

    The prices are what floored me.  They ran from $[removed] to over $600
    dollars.

    Also there have been questions in the past on the availability of WYXIE
    Wonderland by Dick Osgood. There are 3 copies listed ranging from nearly
    $[removed] to nearly $[removed]

    Thought this might be of interest.

    Hold on to those OTR books!!!!!

    Dick

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:13:36 -0500
    From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: re Ad Lib Benny

    Apropos of Jack Benny's ability to think on his feet,
    maybe he wasn't quite in the league of Groucho or Fred Allen,
    but he could throw a zinger under the right circumstances.
    His appearance on Groucho's "Blue Ribbon Town" starts to turn
    dreary as the show's writers give all the gags and wisecracks
    to the supporting cast.  (Trying to emulate Benny's writers?
    Poorly, if so.)
    Finally, in exasperation, right in the middle of one of Groucho's
    lines, Jack yells: "There MUST be a joke for me in here SOMEwhere!"
    prompting the show's biggest laugh to that point.

    Of course, Groucho being Groucho, he has to get in the
    last word:  "You want me to help you look, Jack?"
    --
    John Henley

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:42:46 -0500
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: Theme compilation

    Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed]; wrote:

>     Has anyone ever compiled a tape of OTR themes and/or
>     signature songs presented by the original artists, whole or [removed]
>      just the opening bars of original themes ...

    Let me be the first of thousands to tell you about _Themes Like Old
    Times_ volumes 1 & 2, introduced by Singin' Sam. The first one came
    out in the 70's, long before even the OTR tapes that were available
    for awhile in truck stops and drug stores and long before there
    seemed to be much interest in OTR at all; a gutsy move on somebody's
    part. I used to play the first one frequently, along with Jimi
    Hendrix and Janis Joplin, and much to the puzzlement and
    consternation of my housemates. I believe I saw both albums on CD not
    so long ago.

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:57:25 -0500
    From: leon217@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: info on mp3 players

    Does anyone have any information on what types of mp3 players will work with
    otr mp3 cds I purchase from ebay?
    I purchased a highly rated ( by cnet) tdk mp3 player, and it doesn't play
    these otr mp3s.

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:40:27 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: Themes

    Richard Pratz wonders,:

>     Has anyone ever compiled a tape of OTR themes and/or
>     signature songs presented by the original artists, whole or [removed]

    The best example of such a thing is probably "Themes Like Old Times," a
    series of two LPs produced for the "Viva" label in the late 1960s by Dave
    Goldin of Radio Yesteryear. Volume 1, first released in 1967, is Viva
    V-36018 and Volume 2 (1969) is V-36020. I've also heard of both volumes
    being packaged together in a 2-LP set. Each volume includes ninety
    program opening excerpts, taken from original recordings.

    At one time Radio Yesteryear gave away a slightly edited cassette dub of
    Volume 1 as their "Sampler Tape," and unattributed dubs of all of these
    versions are floating around the OTR world. The original LPs are not all
    that hard to find -- you might check eBay or your favorite local thrift
    store, and probably won't have to pay too much.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:33:02 -0500
    From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: 'The Whistler' in the Midwest

        Someone recently asked on the Digest if The Whistler radio program was
    known in the eastern USA.  Reminds me:
        There was a local (or regional) WBBM-Chicago-produced version of The
    Whistler in 1946 (Sunday evenings, sponsored by Meister Brau beer).
      -- Phil C.

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    Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:02:09 -0500
    From: "Arte" <arte@[removed];
    To: "OldRadio Mailing List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Scopes Monkey Trial

    PBS is airing a 90-minute feature this Sunday on "The
    American Experience" covering the 1925 Scopes so-called
    'Monkey' trial in Dayton, TN.
    Part of the story is the role of WGN providing the first
    ever broadcast from inside a courtroom.
    The town of Dayton staged a reenactment of the trial last
    year, and once again WGN was there.

    Arte

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    Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:18:11 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: The Whistler Knows The Nameless Terrors of

    Which They Dare Not Speak
    Approved: ctrn4eeWlc

    John Mayer, speaking of The Whistler, observes,

>     Yes. I remember well hearing the disquieting show when I was a lad in
>     the 50's. Though it was considered more a horror-mystery show than a
>     crime show, it usually involved a protagonist making a wrong turn in life
>     and paying a terrible price.

    The Whistler almost always had something of an O. Henry twist to its
    plots.  The listener is usually led to expect that the story is leading
    to one outcome, and then more often than not, there's a little surprise
    at the end.

    IMHO, The Whistler was a quality show.  It was spoofed on a Jack Benny
    show, where Jack B. put himself in the place of the title character,
    calling himself "The Fiddler."  Sometimes the show went vastly past the
    laws of probability, but always in an entertaining fashion.  However, I'd
    say that The Shadow was more of a "crime show" than The Whistler.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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