Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #166
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 6/3/2001 8:30 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 166
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Trains                               ["Tony Baechler" <baechler@[removed];]
 re: just some stuff                  ["David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed]]
 Carlton E Morse                      ["Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];]
 Re: Radio Spirits Does It Again!     ["David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed]]
 ALL ABO-A-R-D!                       ["David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed]]
 CBS atomic bomb test wire            ["Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed]]
 The Shadow Knows ... Substance       ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Hot Paragon, America's Case of the F ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Re: One Man's Family: Lt Jack Barbou [HET13@[removed]                      ]
 Fluffs                               ["tas richardson" <tasrichardson@spr]
 John Dehner was tall                 ["jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];    ]
 cost of CDs                          [Eric Cooper <ejcooper2001@[removed];]
 Radio Spirits                        [Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu]
 Lone Ranger books wanted             ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
 Re: Radio Spirits                    ["Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self]
 "Father of Radio" (was Marconi-Tesla ["John Moore" <john_moore@mindspring]
 DISTRIBUTING OTR PGRMS. ON HSN       ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
 Royalties                            [Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed]]
 Still more on Radio Spirits          [JBeck57143@[removed]                 ]
 CD Prices                            [Jack Harris <jack@[removed]]
 Don Ameche                           [Marklambert@[removed]                 ]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:28:44 -0400
From: "Tony Baechler" <baechler@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Trains

Hello.  I am surprised no one has mentioned any of the following shows
having to do with trains or the ralroad.

1. The Great Gildersleeve, 08-31-41.  He takes the train to Summerfield.
The next episode might count as well.

2. Suspense, The Signalman.  This show was done on other series as well.

3. Escape, The Lost Special.  This might have been mentioned before, but I
recommend it as great radio.  It could almost be a Sherlock Holmes case in
the original book form.

4. The Orient Express.  This was done on Escape but maybe other series as
well.  I am thinking of the book written by Agatha Christie but the Escape
version might be different.

5. The Lone Ranger.  There are many, many shows involving the early
railroad.  Find any decent log and search for "train" or "railroad" for a
good list.  The Iron Spur series from June and July 1942 also has to do with
this.  They did another series in 1947 about the Union Pacific.

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:40:05 -0400
From: "David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  re: just some stuff

In Issue 164, Rick says concerning seeing how diminutive John Dehner was:
but then again William Conrad was no towering figure.

Well, at least upwardly.

>From a fellow portly.

Dave Phaneuf

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:48:15 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Carlton E Morse

This Monday will be the 100 anniversary of Carlton E Morse birth.  It was a
great pleasure to have lunch with this man over 15 years ago, and I am going
to have Page Gilman, and Barbara Foller on my interview show on YUSA
tomorrow to talk about Carlton, and One Man Family.  Ed Titus a historian of
the One Man Family show will join the panel.

Walden Hughes.

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:48:17 -0400
From: "David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Radio Spirits Does It Again!

Rodney W. Bowcock, Jr. writes:
I for one would think that Carl Amari would be *glad* to have the shows
on Napster.  After all, he claims to love OTR right?  And isn't this a
great way for people to stumble onto OTR who wouldn't normally listen
to it?  So, really OTR shows being on Napster *could* create business
for him.

Rodney, on this one, in all due respect, I think this is missing the point.
I'm sure Amari _would_ be glad to have his shows on NAPSTER -- as long as
NAPSTER is willing to pay for performance rights.  Theoretically, NAPSTER
can create business -- but how much real measurable business will be
_created_ compared to how much will be _taken away_?  If I can get it free,
why would I later pay for it?

I hope Charlie will let me stray a little off topic here to make my point.

- - - - -
In the church, we deal with copyright issues all the time in terms of our
use of music. We have to be concerned about printing, recording, and
performing of music.  A few years ago, churches were in the habit of singing
different words to the tune "Edelweiss" -- beautiful it was, too, and every
body loved it.  Every body except the copyright holders.  They brought the
issue to court.  The tune & the original words were copyright together and
could not be used separately.  Churches were sued. Church people were
unhappy, and many of us said just what you did about [removed] "You'd think
they would love to have their tune promoted more."

Churches are notorious copyright violators, unfortunately.  And the fines
are H-E-F-T-Y!!!!!  -- as some have found out.  Recently I had to order my
Choir Director to quit making Copies of copyrighted music and to destroy all
current copies, or lose his job.  I would not tolerate infringements.

Why?  Fear of penalty?  Yes.  But for also for another more valid reason.
It is unethical as well as illegal.  And for yet another, even more valid
reason.  It's is theft, pure and simple -- theft of another person's
property, theft of another person's income.  None of us would like to have
our income cheated away from us, and if it happened we would be yelling loud
and clear.

In my church there is a musician who has published music and who depends
upon the royalties from the sale of that music for his livelihood.  Illegal
copying -- pure and simple -- robs someone else.

 - - - -
Now back to [removed]
That's the real issue at stake here with Radio Spirits.   Does Carl Amari
love OTR?  I'm convinced he does.  I've heard his show on Yesterday USA --
the man exudes OTR.  But this isn't about "loving OTR" -- this is about
copyright, about ownership, about income.  And for those shows that Carl
Amari owns the copyrights to -- well, the name says it:  he has the right --
and only he has the right -- to copy, or give permission to copy or perform.
If NAPSTER is illegally performing copyrighted material, then they are at
fault, not Mr. Amari.  NAPSTER should be responsible enough to check out
copyrights and get permission.

Granted, Mr. Amari could be a little more helpful to everyone involved and
inform everyone what copyrights he holds.  But the rest of us could also be
a little more sensitive to the man's rights as well.

And granted, too, OTR collectors and dealers have done a great deal in
preserving and making available OTR shows that otherwise would have been
lost or forgotten.

But whether or not I like or agree with what RSI is doing in buying up
copyrights and prosecuting infringers of their copyrights -- it is
irrelevant.  The fact is Mr. Amari is within his rights -- rights that
anyone of us would defend for ourselves as well, were it us being infringed
upon.

Dave Phaneuf

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:48:18 -0400
From: "David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  ALL ABO-A-R-D!

Recently there's been a thread about railroad shows on OTR.

One delightful Christmas episode is about a train ride across America, and
the conductor is calling out unique names of cities and train stops from
A-Z.  Sounds perfectly dreadful and boring for a 30 minute program, but
really it was well done and entertaining.

For the life of me -- and I apologize for this -- I can't remember the name
of the program or the episode.  I've gotten rid of the tapes (inter-library
loan) and know I can't get them in time to share before the thread runs out.

Does anyone recognize this show and can give the name?

Dave Phaneuf

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:49:46 -0400
From: "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  CBS atomic bomb test wire

Hi Gang,

Check out the "hot wire news" addition to my website.  It includes a sample
of a description of the atomic bomb tests (1946) recorded on 48 ips wire.
And, it contains a reminiscence by Don Mozely, the CBS reporter who covered
it.

Best,
Shiffy
[removed]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:02:17 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Shadow Knows ... Substance

J. Alec West notes, anent the MediaBay matter,

I suspect that this MediaBay action is symbolism without substance.  In
essence, they're kicking a company that has already been kicked to the
ground by the top-5 media cartel.

IMHO, what's being done is more subtle.  I believe that MediaBay is
trying again to set a precedent that they first attempted to establish
with their cease & desist letters.  In a nutshell, their consistent
strategy seems to be to stifle the competition by dubious claims.  If a
dealer has only a couple of programs (not series; just individual shows)
that RSI owns the rights to, and the rest of the dealer's inventory of
shows are either in the Public Domain or nobody's determined who owns the
rights, the letters that have been sent, because of their very vagueness,
if complied with would effectively force the dealer out of business, as
had been noted here before.  An honorable cease & desist letter would
specify just which shows a dealer was offering would be in contention, up
to and including the catalog numbers of the offerings.  MediaBay has not
done this, and shows no indication of doing so in the future.

So why do this?  And particularly, why place it on PR Newswire?  My
thoughts are that they're launching a two-part campaign.  One is
legalistic; the other, propagandistic.  Legasitcally, if they can prevail
in any settlement, it's further ammunition for any suits against
individual dealers, since precedent would have been set.  Not that it
couldn't be overturned or successfully countered, but doing so would take
time and money, which many of the smaller dealers just don't have.
Propagandistically, the action and, more important, its attendant news
release invite press inquiries.  Since the vast majority of reporters
reading this would be unfamiliar with the background and details of
what's been going on, they would be given information similar to the
first Amari "open letter," wherein the tone was "friendly" and
"reasonable."  More important, whom could reporters turn to for an
"opposition" view?  Napster, which is probably as uninformed about the
RSI controversy as the reporter asking the question, and who, if
anything, would defend its practices with regards to OTR recordings the
same way as for any other recordings it's been enabling access to.  That
would mean that the Napster spokesperson would probably react in a manner
that would substantiate the MediaBay implied claim to _all_ OTR
recordings!

This is far more than symbolic; it's very clever.

Stwephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:02:53 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hot Paragon, America's Case of the Fair Shaves

As Bhob Stewart points out,

"Hot Paragon" would actually make a good show title

Indeed.  But this brings up the thought of how sometimes we mishear
something and as a result come up with something better.  On the Jimmy
Durante show, one of the characters was a sultry-sounding lady named
Hotlips Houlihan.  One of my classmates in Jumior High who had a flair
for cartooning drew a credibly accurate Hawaiian lady in a grass skirt
and heat-wave squiggles around her mouth.  He'd labeled the sketch, "Hot
Lips Hula Hands."

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:03:55 -0400
From: HET13@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: One Man's Family: Lt Jack Barbour Leaves
 for the Pacific

Robert Paine <macandrew@[removed]; wrote:

Some weeks ago there were
several posts concerning One Man's Family. I commented on the episode in
which Jack, then Lt. Jack Barbour, US Army Infantry, left for the Pacific
(as
did Lt. Page Gilman, who played Jack for the entire run). I think I said
something about wondering if that episode  exists.

The episode "Lt. Jack Barbour Leaves for the Pacific" (Book 54, Chapter 9)
does indeed exist. In fact, it is widely available.  Carlton E. Morse
produced a series of three LP records in 1976 (Mark56 Records, Anaheim, CA)
which included the episode.  Also the episode is available in the library of
"One Man's Family Family," a group of collectors interested in OMF.  With
regard to the latter, the group has held three "Family Reunions" which have
assembled many former cast members for original extensions of the series
presented at SPERDVAC, Friends of OldTime Radio, and Radio Enthusiasts of
Puget Sound (REPS). Another reunion is scheduled for June 2002.  The group
has been working for almost two years to obtain the approximately 30 hours of
OMF held by the Library of Congress that has never been in circulation.  The
group's library currently holds all of the chapters which are known to be in
circulation.  Anyone interested in One Man's Family Family may write: OMFF,
PO Box 723, Bothell, WA 98041 or e-mail: hrrmikes@[removed].

Paine is certainly correct about the highly poignant nature of 54:9, but I
would still recommend it as a high point in the show and an excellent
portrayal of "family values" of the period.

Ed Titus

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:09:26 -0400
From: "tas richardson" <tasrichardson@[removed];
To: "Oldtime Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Fluffs

George Aust asks if anyone remembers fluffs or embarrassing moments on OTR.
I could only think of the well-known ones such as the eagle that got away on
the Fred Allen show, or Uncle Don (?) who swore at the end of the kiddie
show, not knowing he was still on air.  But if I may, here is one I
witnessed on early (gasp) television.  It was 1953 and we were temporarily
living in Ventura, Calif.  My Dad had just bought our first TV, a
Hallicrafter. (anyone remember those?)  I was watching a panel show that
must have been live, from a Los Angeles station.  There was a segment of the
show when they were blindfolded and a young, curvaceous member of the staff
would hold out an object for them to touch and feel and try and identify.
Singer/songwriter Johnny Mercer was one of the panelists, and when it was
his turn, he groped for the object, missed, and latched on to one of her
ample bosoms.  Laughing, he said something like, "I would hate to tell you
what I think it is."  As the studio audience roared, they quickly went to a
commercial.  And probably discontinued that segment of the show as not a
good idea.

Cheers from Alberta (where we have the mountain peaks)

Tas.


[ADMINISTRIVIA: Before there's a deluge of letters on the subject, the Uncle
Don story referenced herein is a myth, and never happened. See:

[removed]

...for the gory details.  --cfs3]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:12:19 -0400
From: "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  John Dehner was tall

Can't recall who posted that the great character actor, John Dehner, was
short.   But, he certainly appears to be at least 5 ft 10 inches, or taller
to me.   Go rent the video "Carousel," where he plays Mr. Bascombe, the
owner of the mill.   He is in a shoot em up scene with Billy, played by
Gordon McRae, and he also appears near the end of the movie.   Gordon was on
the short side, but he had enormous talent.  The role was offered to
Sinatra, but he turned it down.   Now, I can't imagine anyone but Gordon
playing Billy.
    Anyway, in this confrontation scene, it's angled so you really can't
tell the actors heights.
    For height comparison, either those children are midgets in the scene he
is in near the last of the film, or he is of at least average height.   :)
    BTW, every film bio of John Dehner on the internet omits his role in
"Carousel," except a stage-to-movies web site that gives the entire cast
list to "Carousel."

Cut/Print!
Jim Stokes
NaturaLite Pictures,
whose lifelong ambition is to make a movie musical set in New York City.
jstokes@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:12:22 -0400
From: Eric Cooper <ejcooper2001@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  cost of CDs

Okay all I know is that it is cheaper for me to burn rather than buy. I
also know that since I can get blank CDs at a computer store for around 50
cents a piece, so can they. I am not going to let them charge me a penny
more, digital enhancement or other costs/features notwithstanding.

Eric Cooper
Mission Viejo, CA

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:27:10 -0400
From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Spirits

  Thanks to MP3 technology and the willingness of old-time-radio fans to
share their collections, usually for just a modest fee, I have been able to
amass an OTR collection beyond my dreams. (Now if I only had time to listen
to them all!) But I also appreciate -- and buy -- the offerings from Radio
Spirits. Face it: Their cassettes and CDs are easier to operate and are
usable in the car stereo. Also, their products, especially the collections,
are attractively packaged and sometimes include an informative booklet. They
are, the more impressive part of my collection. I guess my point is that
there is room for both MP3s and Radio Spirits products in this world. I hope
Mister Radio Spirits realizes that, too; his sales won't necessarily suffer.

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:27:28 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Lone Ranger books wanted

I'm looking for a copy of the following Lone Ranger books.
The purpose is to borrow, not purchase.  If anyone on this list
has any of the below, and don't mind loaning me their copy, I'd be
more than glad to pay for postage both ways, and a little extra for the
inconvenience.

FROM OUT OF THE PAST: A Pictorial History of the Lone Ranger by Dave Holland
(1988) Holland House (444 pgs.)

HIS TYPEWRITER GREW SPURS: A Biography of Fran Strikes by Fran Striker, Jr.
(1983) Questco (143 pgs.)

THE MYSTERY OF THE MASKED MAN'S MUSIC  by Ronald M. Jones, Jr. (1987)
Scarecrow Press (219 pgs.)

GEORGE W. TRENDLE: An Authorized Biography by Mark E. Bickel (1971)
Exposition Press (193 pgs.)

As I mentioned, I'm only looking to borrow a copy of each of these
publications, but purchase.  You can contact me privately.
Thanks!

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:38:31 -0400
From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Radio Spirits

I just wanted to say that I do agree with Stephen A. Kallis Jr on his
thoughts about Radio Spirits and rights to programs.  If and when Radio
Spirits gives us good proof of the shows that they own the exclusive
rights to, I can not justify purchasing the shows from anyone else.
Morally, I see no choice but that.  However, I still see that as a big
[removed]

I also don't think that the Radio Spirits prices for CD's are bad at all.
 The sound quality is always great, and the prices aren't bad for the
CD's.  I do think that the prices for the downloads on the website are
outrageous.  ($[removed] per 30 minute show)  Of course, I have a hard time
paying anyone's non-convention prices lately, so I may be alone in this
matter.


Rodney Bowcock

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:12:11 -0400
From: "John Moore" <john_moore@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Father of Radio" (was Marconi-Tesla Case)

For those who've never heard of Nathaniel B. Stubblefield, you might
look at [removed]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:12:08 -0400
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  DISTRIBUTING OTR PGRMS. ON HSN

   I wonder if the thought has ever crossed the minds of the Commercial
Distributors of OTR Programs, to "plug" them on the Home Shopping Network.(I
am speaking of those radio shows that can be played on the computers).   I
notice several Video Companies are plugging Video Tapes as well as CD
Musical Tapes.  (Just a thought that it could be a good outlet.)

Owens Pomeroy

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:22:39 -0400
From: Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Royalties

>From <[removed]; comes the question I have wondered about ever since
I discovered that people were buying and selling my performances on
cassettes:

Have any of the radio veterans here been approached by the ostensible
owners of the shows they appeared in to negotiate use of their
contributions to those shows?  Are any of _them_ receiving royalties
from MediaBay?

I can answer the question with as big fat NO! In light of that fact, it
would seem to me that anyone's claim to sole use would be ridiculous, script
copyright or not If memory serves me correctly these items became radio
shows with the inclusion of actors, sound effects artists, and musicians. I
have a sinking feeling that I am not alone in my lack of consultation about
who owns what.

Harry Bartell

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:22:41 -0400
From: JBeck57143@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Still more on Radio Spirits

Carl Amari has said he has no problem with people trading "a few shows"
(which is similar to the RIAA's atttitude toward trading music--they don't
mind "small scale" trading), which would seem to make it okay to make copies
of shows for trading. If Amari doesn't mind people trading shows, he
shouldn't mind them being given away either.

Radio Spirits seems more interested in cassettes than CDs. It looks like most
of their programs are on cassette. They have some very nicely packaged CD
collections, although the packaging tends to be repetitious. I have the
Alfred Hitchcock 6 CD collection. The same photo of Hitchcock is used over
and over and over (maybe they do that to save money--since they probably have
to license any images they use).

I don't mind Radio Spirits selling OTR, but if they have exclusive rights to
programs, that greatly restricts their availability--we're limited to however
many (or however few) shows Radio Spirits is willing (or able) to release.
What if other vendors were willing to pay royalties? Would they be allowed to?

It would be interesting to know how much money the average Radio Spirits
customer spends. Even at only $1 per show, you'd have to be rich to be able
to build any kind of comprehensive collection. Besides Cinnamon Bear, I don't
know if RS has released any series in its entirety. They've released two
thirds of the 54 Damon Runyon Therater shows on cassette (2 18 show
colllections, $35 each, or 36 shows for a total of $70--I got all 54 shows on
CDROM for $6)

The current Radio Spirits catalog has about 4,000 shows. Even at $1 per show
(on tape), it would cost $4,000 for every show in the catalog (actually less,
since they give you free cassettes depending on how much you spend--but it
would still be an awlful lot of money). They also have a custom cassette
service, where you can choose from their archive of over 60,000 shows. They
charge $12 for a one hour tape. (This may be a good way to get programs you
can't find anywhere else.)

It's too bad Radio Spirits isn't interested in CDROMs. CDROMs are the most
practical and economical way to collect OTR (depending on just how much OTR
you're interested in)--although there's a lot more material that isn't on
CDROM. With their expenses, how much would it cost Radio Spirits to put 100
shows on one disc?

In the few months I've been collecting CDROMs, I've gotten more than 5,000
shows for a fraction of what it would cost to buy all of them from Radio
Spirits. I'm sure there are people who have amassed much larger collections
just through trading. I know people that trade, or give away, CDROMs have
none of the costs Radio Spirits has, but it's still a more economical and
practical way to collect OTR.

At the instigation of MediaBay and Radio Spirits, Martin Hunt's OTR Archive
(in Canada) ([removed]) was "reorganized" in April.

 .Not surprisingly, there are a lot of shows (around 5,000?) that can't be sold
anymore, but there are still a lot that can be sold--a lot more than I
thought there'd be.

Here's a partial list of what the Archive isn't selling anymore:

Burns and Allen, Broadway is My Beat, Box 13, Dimension X, Damon Runyon
Theater, Duffy's Tavern, Escape, Family Theatre, Frontier Gentleman, Green
Hornet, Harry Lime, Lights Out, Lone Ranger, Our Miss Brooks; Phil Harris,
Alice Faye; Sherlock Holmes, Superman, Sam Spade, Tales of the Texas
Rangers, and X Minus One

Here's a partial list of what the Archive is still able to sell:

Adventures by Morse, Adventures of Philip Marlowe, Boston Blackie, Cinnamon
Bear, Crisis, Dragnet, Fort Laramie, Gangbusters, Great Gildersleeves,
Gunsmoke; Have Gun, Will Travel; I Love a Mystery, Inner Sanctum, Jack
Benny, Magic Island, Pat Novak for Hire; Quiet, Please; Frank Race, Richard
Diamond, The Shadow, Sixshooter, Space Patrol, Suspense, Weird Circle, and
The
Whistler

Maybe the shows the Archive isn't selling are shows Radio Spirits has
exclusive rights to.

Jim Beck

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:39:49 -0400
From: Jack Harris <jack@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CD Prices

For the dealers that think $6 or more for a cd is fair let me ask you WHAT
are you paying for the rights to reproduce the shows you most likely got
for nothing?
I for one don't like Amari at all but have bought from him when he runs a
special. (The Frank Sinatra series for $60 for 30 cds was a deal!)  I don't
like his tactics and the bad mouthing he has done to the otr community.  I
have bought from one dealer when I couldn't trade and that was in the form
of reel to reels.  $6 to $8 for a 1200 reel that has 12 half hour shows on
it is a real deal.
CD's have been costing 25 to 30 cents apiece for memorex 12x. Off brands
even cheaper. Labels from Sam's cost 15 cents each and jewel cases about 40
cents. Less than a buck for the total package.  If you don't have your
stuff mastered on cd and are still burning copies from cassettes you had
better get busy before the reels deteriorate any more! It takes me about 30
minutes up to an hour to remaster a show using Cool Edit Pro depending on
what needs to be done. What is my time [removed]   this is a hobby!  If
you think your cds are worth 6, 7, [removed] for it.  I quit buying from
Imagination Theater because $8 for a cd is just a little much.
I don't know which shows RS has the rights to and really don't care. I
believe it is the fact that he tries to make everyone think he has the
rights to them all that has really burned everyone up. I will keep trading
shows like I have for the last 35 years, but then I am not trying to make a
profit.

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:18:34 -0400
From: Marklambert@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Don Ameche

The Des Moines Register has been running a
series of columns entitled "Famous Iowans."
Several of these mini-biographies are about people
with OTR ties.   I promised to send the actual articles
out to some folks some time back and have never gotten
around to it, so I thought I would post the links over the
next few days.

So. . .if you are intersted in learning a little about Don
Ameche, go to:

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--Mark
Mark Lambert

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