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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 359


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Recording OTR off Air
	 Godfrey & Duffy
	  Back to Sparky
	 Re: Canadian shipping / Sperdvac Radiogram
	 Re: Vic and Sade -- Laura's reply
	 Re: Vic and Sade - more thoughts

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:32:47 -0500
From: BCH66@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Recording OTR off Air
Message-ID: <951106043244_13983861@[removed]>

Of all the shows I have ever recorded off the air I always look for a
replacement tape either through a distributor or a club. This way I maintain
the " purity" of the episode. ( You know stations edit openings, closings,
commercials [removed]) Matter of fact my first contact with OTR was through a
college that had ( courses ) you 
could hear over the phone. Each week they always had a few selections of OTR
for their listeners. I actually taped my first shows 
off the phone !!! Other shows I recorded off  local stations playing
OTR and even some stations that were not so local and the signal faded often

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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 09:38:13 -0500
From: Robert Kirk <kirk@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Godfrey & Duffy
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Roy Trumbull wrote:

>I was asked a trivia question that I can't answer so
>I thought I would bug the rest of you with it.
>"What was Arthur Godfrey's theme song?"
>That is a bit tougher than it looks because he
>had a one hour weekday radio program with a
>studio audience, the Talent Scouts program that
>migrated to TV, and his half hour radio show on
>CBS that he wound up his career with. There may
>have been several themes.
>My gut response was "Seems Like Old Times" but
>I have nothing to base that upon.


That's my recollection, too, from his weekday radio 
program in New York. Incidentally, last night WAMU
in Washington DC - Ed Walker's show - played
a very early NY Godfrey show where he talked about
his earlier days on WTOP in DC. He also decoded a
morse code letter to him from a fan. He was a Coast
Guard radio operator in WWI.

The Ed Walker show also featured a round table reminiscence
by a group of the radio veterans in the DC area. Very
interesting.
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welsa@[removed] wrote:
[...]

>    2)  I recall a Duffy's Tavern episode where a "stranger" visits the bar 
>after closing and helps a cynical Archie have a change of heart about the 
>season.  A change of pace for this show.  (It's always hard for me to believe 
>when I listen to Duffy's Tavern that Ed Gardner transcribed the show each week 
>from Puerto Rico.)
>    
[...]

Tell us more. How on earth did an OTR show wind up originating in PR?
I'd guess Gardiner started it in NY and decided to move to warmer climes
after it became successful. Or was there a real PR radio industry?

Bob Kirk

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Date:     Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:26 CST
From: ZENCHC@[removed] (Chris Zenchenko, 7-3543)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:  Back to Sparky
Message-Id: <m0tCTRY-000Y56C@[removed]>

I checked my copy of the Sparky album discussed here a few weeks ago.
Sparky's Magic Piano
and
Sparky and the Talking Train
It was written and produced by Alan Livingston.
Music was by Billy May
Henry Blair was Sparky and narration was by Verne Smith.
Ray Turner played the piano and talking piano and train by Sonovox.
The recording was on Capitol.
There was a list of other great children's recordings from Capitol.
It seems that Capitol had several radio people in it's stable of stars.
Stan Freberg recorded for them and Dennis Day did some children's
records.
Also I am sure people can list many programs featuring the voice of
Verne Smith as announcer.  The shows I remember most are Our Miss Brooks
and A Day in the Life of Dennis Day.

73 from WB9RSQ

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:28:34 -0500
From: aa993@[removed] (Christopher L. Tumber)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Canadian shipping / Sperdvac Radiogram
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Richard Novak wrote:
 
>I recently checked my local Post Office for book rates to Canada. When 
>I ship Sperdvac tapes domestically (five open reels) it costs on an 
>average of $[removed] If I want to ship across the International border, 
>I'm going to have to complete some extra paperwork. 
 
Which amounts to telling the postal employee to write "Audio Tapes" and a 
value on the customs slip. Less work than licking a stamp. (Though some 
postal employees do make you write it down yourself. Still less work than 
addressing the package initially.)
 
>The package may or 
>may not be inspected by customs. 
 
This is true, but how does this make it more expensive/more work to ship to me?
(Unless you're gonna send me kiddie porn or [removed])
 
>It will cost about $8 shipping. 
 
I have, sitting in front of me two boxes from recent tape trades.
 
The first came from Texas and contained 6 cassettes. It cost the sender $[removed]
to ship it first class (air mail).
 
The second came from VA and contained 10 cassettes. It cost the shipper $[removed] 
to ship it first class (air mail).
 
I previously stated shipping for 25 cassettes would be somewhere between $4 
and $[removed] Obviously that might be a little low, the actual figure is 
probably somewhere between $5 and $6. Even if it did cost almost $8 the 
difference between this and the $[removed] for shipping to US residents is made 
up for by the extra dollar per set ($5 on 25 tapes) charged to Canadians 
(at least in the case of RHAC, still have no idea what SPERDVAC's fees are).
 
As I also stated, I have no big problem with this, RHAC is more than welcome 
to the extra couple bucks (at most) it'll make off me per rental. I'm sure 
they'll put it to good use and I'd much rather pay them an extra buck each 
time I rent than have them be out a buck each time.
 
However, that does NOT explain why SPERDVAC charges Canadian members an extra 
$5 (20% more for new members, 33% more for renewals) annually and RHAC does 
not.
 
(Tell you what, assuming I remember, I'll post the exact amount it cost RHAC 
to send me my first sets of tape when they get here in the next week and a 
half or so)
 
>If I 
>ship  book rate, the recipient's rental time will run out before he 
>even gets it. 
 
Very true, however the difference between book and third class mail for 
packages between Canada and US is minimal. Use third or first class (shipping 
coast to coast seems to usually be cheaper first class instead of third)
 
>There are some problems, not insurmountable, but 
>certainly adds to Sperdvac's costs.
 
Uh, the "problems" you've outlined basically amount to:
 
A) Having to tell the postal employee what's in the package and how much it's 
   worth. (say "No Commercial Value").
B) Having to remember not to ship it book rate.   
C) Having to pay slightly more for the shipping.
 
C) is taken care of by the increased rental fees, and it boggles my mind that 
anyone who's just taken the time to cash/deposit a cheque, find a couple 
dozen tapes, package them up, address the package, and then take them to 
the post office could consider A) and B) a "hassle".
 
>We do not want to discourage Canadian members but there are added 
>costs, including shipping the initial catalog 
 
RHAC didn't ask any more from me for shipping their catalog (I would've been 
more than happy to pick up the extra buck or so but I guess they figured the 
membership fee covered it. Wish I had kept the envelope so I could quote 
actual costs)
 
>and monthly Newsletter 
>mailings. 
 
Make an electronic version available and email it to me. Would cost you LESS
(At some point it's typeset and put together on a computer, yes?) and save 
some trees.
 
And, what about this line in the "indicia":
 
"Annual subscriptions to the RADIOGRAM ONLY are $15 in the [removed], Canada and 
Mexico and $20 to other countries."
 
Evidently, SPERDVAC *doesn't* consider the added costs for shipping the 
newsletter to Canada significant.
 
>Some Sperdvac librarians do not want the hassle of 
>international mailings. As far as I'm concerned, I'll ship anywhere in 
>the world to a valid member. (And I have the newest library 
>acquisitions.)
 
I appreciate the time you've taken to try and address my concerns, however, 
while (as I said) I have no problem paying extra per rental to cover the 
added shipping fees I do still think the difference in dues between American 
and non-American members is simply not fair. All added costs are covered when 
the member rents tapes and pays the higher rental fee except the initial 
catalog shipment. This MIGHT warrant slightly higher initial dues, but 
certainly not higher renewal dues.
 
Come to think of it, isn't an electronic version of the SPERDVAC catalog 
online? If so, you don't need to mail me out a catalog at all (or probably 
most people on the net for that matter) as an electronic catalog would be 
much easier to search and browse electronically.
 

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:46:27 -0500
From: JanBach@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Vic and Sade -- Laura's reply
Message-ID: <951106104616_14118153@[removed]>

Hello again --
Sorry to mention it, but I've been waiting since June for an answer from
Barbara Schwarz, president of the Vic and Sade fan club, to my request for a
copy of her newsletter so I could report to OTR subscribers about the value
of this organization. I know she is around and active because I saw her
picture taken with Billy Idleson in a recent issue of Chuck Schaden's
Nostalgia Digest, and I talked with her briefly on the phone this summer (she
lives on the north side of Chicago). But she is very active as a volunteer in
various charitable enterprises and apparently Vic and Sade is low on her list
right now -- yet those who know say her V and S newsletter is well worth
waiting for. 
In the meantime, I got a LOT (about thirty) wonderful V and S programs from
RADIO MEMORIES FROM THE ATTIC at 1000 Augusta Avenue, Elgin IL 60120 and the
quality is astounding for these old programs, some of which are nearly sixty
years old. Write for their free catalog; they also had a lot of other
programs of comedy and mystery, [removed] their turnaround time was short. The
cassettes are around $4 apiece.
But I wouldn't send any dues to Barbara until I know if she will continue
with the V and S newsletter in the near future.
Jan Bach

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:53:35 -0500
From: JanBach@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Vic and Sade - more thoughts
Message-ID: <951106105334_14122694@[removed]>

Hello again, again --
Another thought about Vic and Sade. Your local library is a great source for
OTR material (I'm surprised more subscribers don't check there first --
especially with the computer retrieval methods available today through the
phone lines to your home computer -- before asking a lot of the questions I
see posted here) and there are two V and S books of scripts. The first one,
THE SMALL HOUSE HALFWAY IN THE NEXT BLOCK (I think), has been long out of
print but has several pictures of the cast in addition to several early
scripts. The second, VIC AND SADE, was published in 1976 by the Seabury
Press, New York. And all the Vic and Sade scripts are housed in the State
Historical Society of Wisconsin, in the Mass Communications History Center,
where they are available to any serious scholars of this program.
Jan Bach 

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