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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 190
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [ charlie@[removed] ]
Orson Welles In 1941 [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
Timer Recording [ ilamfan@[removed] (S Jansen) ]
Jack Benny and the Doctor's House Ca [ OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin) ]
WNAR OTR Broadcasting [ Randy Collins <rlcollins1@adelphia. ]
12" v. 16" transcriptions [ "Austotr" <austotr@[removed]; ]
6-22 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Air Check and Double Check? [ Wich2@[removed] ]
Pedometers, etc. [ Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed] ]
Re: Richard Boone [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
OTR streamed over the Internet [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
WNAR [ "Andolina, Joe" <Joe_Andolina@cable ]
airchecks [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
Re: 14 inch transcriptions [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Hitler speeches [ "Dick G. Wamser" <snapp@computercon ]
ALL GAS AND GAITERS [ mikeandzachary@[removed] ]
ETs 12" and 16" [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:12:00 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!
Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!
For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:45:38 +0000
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Orson Welles In 1941
[removed] King posted
Lady Esther Presents Orson Welles 12-22-41 "The Happy Prince"
This is interesting to me as I had not been aware of this broadcast, having
never seen it in any log before. But I did find that Jerry Haendiges has
it listed as a Mercury Theater broadcast. The reason for my interest was
that I have a copy of an Orson Welles Theater broadcast entitled "Christmas
Show; St Luke Chapter 2 with the same date 12-22-41.
It doesn't seem likely to me that both these shows were broadcasted the
same night. Can anybody shed light on this mystery?
I haven't posted in quite some time having been ill for most of the first
of the year, but I have now read all of the posts and think I'm all caught
up. It's nice to back.
George Aust
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:17 +0000
From: ilamfan@[removed] (S Jansen)
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Timer Recording
Several choices for timed recording of shows:
If you have a computer, a Windows/PC utility called "Total Recorder" allows
you to record any audio that comes through your computer in any number of
audio formats on a timer - no problem to set the timer and record a wav or
mp3 from a web/radio broadcast. Not a very expensive program, and terribly
useful.
If you don't have the computer handy, you might have one of those
old-fashioned "video cassette recorder" machines around. A hi-fi stereo
VCR records very high quality audio (nearly digital quality). Simply hook
up the audio input to your radio, pop in a tape, and set the timer to
record during the time your show plays (evidently some recorders "need" to
have a video source present, too, so you might need to plug in a video
source/tv also - try and see - mine doesn't need the video plugged in to
record audio). Plus, you can get 6 hours on a single tape. Plus PLUS you
can pick up a brand new stereo VCR for about $50 these days (get one before
they're all gone!).
Hope this helps!
Stephen Jansen
--
Old Time Radio never dies - it just changes formats!
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:43 +0000
From: OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Jack Benny and the Doctor's House Call
Reading George Tirebiter's question about whether the actor who played
Jack's doctor was replaced for the later broadcast brought to mind how
wonderfully sarcastic Frank Nelson was on Jack's shows. Frank, playing
a doctor making a house call for Jack, was his usual, snappy character.
Jack, getting perturbed and realizing that Frank was not his regular
doctor, told him:
"You're not my regular doctor! Where's MY doctor?"
"Oh, he's at a funeral!"
"Oh", Jack inquired, "Did one of his patients die?"
"Nooooooooooo! One of mine did!"
Stuart Lubin
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:48:51 +0000
From: Randy Collins <rlcollins1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: WNAR OTR Broadcasting
[removed] informed us of the following concerning Charles' post
regarding WNAR-AM:
> Charles forwarded us the url for WNAR and mentioned "great programming,
day and night" but
> if you are tuning in looking for oldtime radio, you won't find it day
and night. It is Christian
> programming, supplied by 3 Angels Broadcasting and aired on WNAR which
is a low power
> FM station. For otr, there are about a half-dozen internet-only
stations airing otr day and night.
> This station has nothing to do with oldtime radio.
I thank him for informing me of WNAR-FM, but it seems to me the WNAR-AM
that Charles spoke of IS all about OTR. Here is their schedule for Tuesday,
June 21: WNAR Eastern time zone programming
Tuesday
00:00 NATIONAL NEWS
00:07 CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER
01:00 LIGHTS OUT
01:30 QUIET PLEASE
02:00 SECRET AGENT
02:15 THE AVENGERS
03:00 NATIONAL NEWS
03:05 GLEN MILLER
03:30 BENNY GOODMAN
04:00 HARRY LIME
04:30 WEIRD CIRCLE
05:00 INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES
05:30 UNSHACKLED
06:00 NATIONAL NEWS
06:07 CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER
07:00 PHILO VANCE
07:30 THE MOLLE MYSTERY THEATER
08:00 THE SAINT
08:30 THE VOYAGE OF THE SCARLET QUEEN
09:00 NATIONAL NEWS
09:05 ACADEMY AWARD THEATER
10:00 THE LINE UP
10:30 OZZIE AND HARRIET
11:00 NERO WOLFE
11:30 UNSHACKLED
12:00 NATIONAL NEWS
12:07 JOHNNIE DOLLAR SERIES PART 2
12:30 WHITEHALL 1212
13:00 NATIONAL NEWS
13:05 CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER
14:00 DARK FANTASY
14:30 ADVENTURES BY MORSE
15:00 NATIONAL NEWS
15:07 SUPERMAN
15:30 DUFFY'S TAVERN
16:00 LUX RADIO THEATER
17:00 FAMILY THEATER
17:30 SIX SHOOTER
18:00 NATIONAL NEWS
18:17 MUTUAL RADIO THEATER
19:00 NICK CARTER
19:30 WILD BILL HICKOCK
20:00 CHALLENGE OF THE YUKON
20:30 THE LONE RANGER
21:00 NATIONAL NEWS
21:07 SUPERMAN
JOHNNY DOLLAR SERIES
21:30 GUNSMOKE
22:00 DRAGNET
22:30 INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES
23:00 NATIONAL NEWS
23:05 JEAN SHEPHERD
Seems as though every day unfolds with solid otr broadcasting all day long.
I have no connection to WNAR-AM, just wanted to show Charles' original post
seems to be correct. The url for WNAR's homepage again is
[removed] R. Collins
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:49:53 +0000
From: "Austotr" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 12" v. 16" transcriptions
In issue #189, Joe Salerno asked
> Do we have listers here that could comment on the methods of program
> distribution used in Europe or Australia?
G'Day Joe, check out Craig Nugent's article on Transcriptions in Australia:
[removed]
if you have any other questions just post them.
On another note:
Regarding the recent question about Series that were broadcast in multiple
countries, did we find out if the researcher needed more information? A
list could be made, I wouldn't post it here as it would be a long list and
we know that Hal will take it to heart that Archie didn't cut it in
Australia. I don't know why as the comics certainly had quite a market. It
must have been the 'voice'.
Ian Grieve
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:04 +0000
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 6-22 births/deaths
June 22nd births
06-22-1894 - Major George Fielding Eliot - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-xx-1971
cbs military analyst during World War II
06-22-1901 - Jack Whiting - Philadelphia, PA - d. 2-15-1961
singer: "MGM Radio Club"
06-22-1902 - Phil Duey - Macy, IN - d. 4-7-1982
singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Leo Reisman Orchestra"; "Happy Bakers"
06-22-1903 - Ben Pollack - Chicago, IL - d. 6-7-1971
bandleader: Bib band remotes - became the Bob Crosby Orchestra
06-22-1906 - Billy Wilder - Sucha, Austria-Hungary - d. 3-27-2002
screenwriter, film director: "Lady Esther Screen Guild Theatre"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
06-22-1907 - Mike Todd - Minneapolis, MN - d. 3-22-1958
film producer: "Closing the New York World's Fair"
06-22-1912 - June Carroll - Detroit, MI - d. 5-16-2004
composer: "New Faces of 1948"
06-22-1916 - Johnny Jacobs - d. 2-8-1982
announcer: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; "Frontier Gentleman"; "Granby's
Green Acres"
06-22-1919 - Gower Champion - Geneva, IL - d. 8-25-1980
choreographer: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Guest Star"
06-22-1920 - Paul Frees - Chicago, IL - d. 11-1-1986
actor: Jethro Dumont/Green Lama "Green Lama"; Robert Aladdin "Mr. Aladdin"
06-22-1930 - Roy Drusky - Atlanta, GA - d. 9-24-2004
singer: "Grand Old Opry"
06-22-1932 - Prunella Scales - Sutton Abinger, Surrey, England
actress: Sybil Fawlty "Fawlty Towers"
06-22-1949 - Meryl Streep - Summit, NJ
actress. "Earplay"
June 22nd deaths
01-14-1909 - Joseph Losey - La Crosse, WI - d. 6-22-1984
director: "Words at War"
01-26-1899 - Wyllis Cooper - Pekin, IL - d. 6-22-1955
producer, writer, director: "Lights Out"; "Quiet Please"
05-03-1897 - Charlie Lung - England - d. 6-22-1974
actor: Paul Sycamore "You Can't Take It with You"; "Wild Bill Hickok"; "Escape"
05-10-1899 - Fred Astaire - Omaha, NE - d. 6-22-1987
dancer, actor: "Fred Astaire Show"
05-10-1902 - David O. Selznick - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-22-1965
film producer: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
05-10-1907 - Pee Wee Hunt - Mount Healthy, OH - d. 6-22-1979
composer: "The Hoagy Carmichael Show"
05-21-1917 - Dennis Day - The Bronx, NY - d. 6-22-1988
singer, comedian: "Jack Benny Program"; "Day in the Life of Dennis Day"
06-07-1896 - Hope Summer - Mattoon, IL - d. 6-22-1979
actress: Clara "Girl Alone"
06-10-1922 - Judy Garland - Grand Rapids, MN - d. 6-22-1969
singer, actress: Romantic Interest "The Hardy Family"; "Good News of 1938"
08-10-1902 - Venezuela Jones - d. 6-22-1995
actress: Susie Robinson "Our Gal Sunday"
10-18-1908 - Rene Garriguenc - d. 6-22-1998
composer: "Rogers of the Gazette"; "Advs. of Sam Spade, Detective"
12-09-1927 - Benny Green - Leeds, England - d. 6-22-1998
musician, conversationalist, writer: ""Stop the Week"; "Kaleidoscope"
12-28-1896 - Rose Franken - Gainesville, TX - d. 6-22-1988
writer: "Claudia and David" based on her stories
12-29-1892 - Emory Parnell - St. Paul, MN - d. 6-22-1979
actor: Grouch "Grouch Club"; "Eddie Bracken Show"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:26 +0000
From:
Wich2@[removed]
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Air Check and Double Check?
Dear Gang-
Re: Tom Hood's question whether an other-source recording of an event that
was broadcast was an aircheck:
The technical answer would be "no," yes?
Such a record is valuable in it's own right; but if it wasn't a Check (-ing
copy) of what was actually Air (-ed), I wouldn't call it an aircheck.
Best,
-Craig
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:52:04 +0000
From: Stephen A Kallis
<skallisjr@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Pedometers, etc.
Speaking of the Lone Ranger pedometer, Jim Nixon observed,
> I can't remember exactly what I sent in to get the pedometer, but I
> hope it wasn't more than one Cheerios boxtop and a dime, because the darn
> thing lasted about three days and broke!
I don't recall exactly how I was motivated to send for one. However,
mine worked fine for as long as I used it. It came with detailed
instructions for proper use. I started finding out how far I walked
through a normal day, etc., but after a while, the novelty wore off. Few
other radio premiums did that happen with.
While still on the subject of radio premiums, I recall that some I got
because they were necessary, such as Code-O-Graphs (which I still think
of as "equipment" rather than as premiums), some I got because they were
useful; some, because they were cool. The Sky King Mystery Picture Ring,
where one drawing of Sky King dissolved into another, had little utility,
but the picture change was really fascinating. The Buck Rogers Ring of
Saturn (which broke less than a day after I got mine) just looked neat in
the dark (as a child, anything luminous seemed to be touched by the
supernatural). Many rings with secret compartments (Aztec Sun God Ring,
Magni-Glo Writing Ring, etc.) were nice, but nobody I knew, including me,
ever put anything in the secret compartments.
Most of the premiums in my collections still perform as well as they did
when I first got them. The ink in pens and stamp pads has dried out, but
the stamp inks I've renewed. One of the stranger premiums, the Tim Mix
Ralston Straight Shooters Signal Arrowhead, a clear plastic oversize
arrowhead with panpipe whistles, siren, magnifying lens, and reducing
("smallifying") lens, still functions, even to the siren. (It was
awkward, being a tad big for a pocket item, and while a child, I found no
use for the reduction lens.)
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:52:37 +0000
From: "Michael J. Hayde"
<michaelhayde@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Richard Boone
Kenneth Clarke wrote:
> I was looking at the births/deaths list and noticed a
> listing for Richard Boone. It listed his credits as "Dragnet".
> I don't remember Richard Boone ever appearing on that
> program.
I've personally never heard Boone on "Dragnet" either - or maybe I have,
but didn't recognize him. He and Webb did become friends during the pre-TV
era, having met while appearing in the film "Halls of Montezuma"
(1950). Webb did tend to hire actors he'd befriended on movie sets - the
most noticable examples being Harry Morgan ("Appointment with Danger"),
Stacy Harris ("Appointment with Danger"), Martin Milner ("Halls of
Montezuma") and Lee Marvin ("You're in the Navy Now").
Boone did portray Captain Hamilton, Intelligence Division, in the 1954
"Dragnet" feature film.
Michael
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:55:54 +0000
From: Andrew Steinberg
<otrdig1@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR streamed over the Internet
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Here is a schedule of OTR streamed over the Internet with links
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:56:04 +0000
From: "Andolina, Joe"
<Joe_Andolina@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: WNAR
Someone posted saying that WNAR that Charles posted about has nothing to do
with OTR. Well I've been listening to it at work yesterday throughout the
day and today, and it sounds very much like OTR. For a matter of fact, I'm
listening to Burns & Allen. Perhaps the poster got to the wrong link?
Joe
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:29:38 -0400
From:
"joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: airchecks
IMO an aircheck is a recording made from a radio broadcast and will contain
whatever was heard on the radio, not necessarily at the event itself.
A parallel recording of such an event, while valuable, will not necessarily
contain the commentary of an on-air announcer, commercials, network and
local station IDs, etc. so the content will be different in some details. It
is also possible that the a commercially issued location recording may have
sections removed due to time limitations, while the aircheck could contain
more of the event
joe salerno
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:49:53 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod
<lizmcl@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: 14 inch transcriptions
On 6/22/05 12:18 AM
[removed]@[removed] wrote:
>Radio transcriptions came in both 12 and 16 inch sizes and are both
>appropriately called "radio transcriptions" or "electrical transcriptions".
There were also 14 inch transcriptions -- this was a format occasionally
used by RCA Victor in the early to mid thirties for various Victrolac
pressings. They generally held 10 to 12 minutes per side, although 15
minutes could fit with close grooving. Victor had experimented with close
grooving on Vitaphone movie soundtrack discs as early as 1930-31,
allowing the reduction of those recordings from 16 inches to 12 without
significant loss of sound quality.
The "His Masters Voice On The Air" series of 1932, promoting upcoming
Victor record releases, was distributed in the 14 inch Victrolac format,
as were some of the 1932-33 Sherlock Holmes programs for G. Washington
Coffee. There were no doubt other series in this format that haven't yet
been documented.
The biggest advantage of the 14 inch size was probably one of economy --
a 14 inch disc weighed less than a 16 inch disc, and would save on
shipping costs.
Elizabeth
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:45:02 -0400
From: "Dick G. Wamser"
<snapp@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Hitler speeches
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Hello all: I have come into possession of a one mil Scotch open reel tape
recorded at [removed] IPS in March of 1968. Its one side contains a recording of
Hitler's speeches from 1939 to 1945 narrated by a German professor. The
records were pressed in Germany in about 1965. The album contents were copied
in English on sheets of paper inside the tape box. If anyone on the list is
interested in either the reel or a two-audio cd copy, email me directly. The
introduction to the recording (done in English) was evidently done by the
person transferring the recordings to tape. This introduction is small enough
to be sent to anyone interested as an email audio attachment. All in all, a
better than average transfer for 1968. The open reel machine was a Tandburg,
and I suspect the rest of the equipment was similar in quality.
Dick, Donna, Clayton, Mizzy, Bart and Ginger
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:45:11 -0400
From:
mikeandzachary@[removed]
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: ALL GAS AND GAITERS
I've been listening lately to the old BBC series ALL GAS AND GAITERS. While
I'm greatly enjoying the shows, I'm at a loss as to the meaning of the
series' title. I know what "gas" is, and I know what "gaiters" are. Does
anyone know the title's meaning?
Thanks to all,
Mike
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:19 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone"
<tkneebone1@[removed];
To:
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: ETs 12" and 16"
Joe Salerno has written about the size of ETs. I copied many of the 16"
variety from the WNAX and KSCJ collections. But years later, I discovered
the 12" microgroove variety, and still have some in my collection. They
were not made in the 1930s. Some were 12" 33 1/3 rpm wartime recordings
made in the 1940s (don't know about groove size). Some were from Radio
Nederland made in the 1970s. Those were microgroove. And I have 600 hours
of "Golden Age of Radio Theater" hosted by Victor Ives. Someday I plan to
get these copied to cassette. Also, there are many that contained
commercials for just about anything you can name!
Ted Kneebone. OTR website:
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Democrats:
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1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / Phone: 605-226-3344
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