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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 25


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 WSAZ (again)
	 Welcome Marcus
	 Need issue 15
	 wav files
	 Henry ALdrich - Movies
	 Re: WENN Foley
	 SPERDVAC
	 Ampex 641 open reel tape
	 Radio City Playhouse partial log
	 Re: The Whistler
	 OTR Radio Station List
	 RADIO SHOWCASE internet sale!
	 Shadow - Duffy's Tavern
	 "Trenches" Shadow article follow-up

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:25:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: wmackey@[removed]
To: "otr@[removed]" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: WSAZ (again)
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In reply to Marty@[removed], I was the one who said WSAZ stands for the 
"Worst Station from A to Z".  This the joke that around the studies years 
ago.  Don't blame Andy Blatt, he was merely repeating what I had I said.
I also heard this from people who had worked for WSAZ.  Also, this had 
nothing to with WSAZ tv3, but the radio station, since it came up in the 
discussion on early stations.  Joe Mackey

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:28:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: wmackey@[removed]
To: "otr@[removed]" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Welcome Marcus
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Marcus, how nice to see someone from Sweden on the list.  Perhaps you 
might be able to tell about about otr in Sweden?  Joe Mackey

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 06:49:48 -0600 (CST)
From: caldwell@[removed] (Wayne Caldwell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Need issue 15
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Could someone email me a copy of the newsletter volume 96 issue 15.

Thanks
[removed]
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  Wayne Caldwell        |                                  |   
  [removed] 831183        |         internet                 |   214-436-2724
  Richardson, Texas     |    caldwell@[removed]    |  answer machine
  75083-1183            |        MSGID = CWB               |   
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"They say your memory is the second thing to go. But I can't remember what
 the first was."
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:57:44 -0500
From: "Robert E. Yellen" <ryellen@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Cc: dabell@[removed]
Subject: wav files
Message-ID: <0fe43b20@[removed]>

>Actually, a couple of months ago someone wrote that there is a shareware or
>freeware program that converts .wav files so us Mac users can listen, too.
>Unfortunately, I think I may have inadvertently deleted it. At least I sure
>can't find it. I wonder if that kind person -- or anyone, for that matter
>-- would tell us/me again what that program is?

The program I use is Sound App version [removed]

Is available in the info-mac archives.
Using Netscape open connection to 

[removed]

Do a search on soundapp and then hit the download button

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I Don't do [removed]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:59:49 EST
From: packerm@[removed] (MICHAEL PACKER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Henry ALdrich - Movies
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

          Dear Friends:

          I've been looking for the Henry Aldrich films, either on
          videotape (prefered format) or [removed]  I posted looking
          for these before and had two [removed] One was a very
          nice gentleman who gave me some leads which, unfortunately,
          did not turn up [removed] The other person wrote back to
          tell me that he had copies of the films on video tape but
          told me there was no way he would provide me with copies
          (not sure why he even responded)...

          In any case, if you can help me track these down in either
          format, I'd appreciate [removed] I would be willing to trade
          from my collection (which consists largely of POST Golden
          Age (Bronze Age?) material - fer instance; Stan Freberg, Ken
          Nordine, Firesign Theatre, The Goon Show)... I do also have
          many Norman Corwin pieces (including the unedited version of
          the remake of "We Hold These Truths") and some Golden Age
          [removed]  If trades don't interest you I would be
          willing to purchase the [removed]

          Thanks for your [removed]

          Radiophonically,

          Michael Packer
          packerm@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:14:47 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: WENN Foley
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

hhoward@[removed] (Henry Howard) writes:
>>>. Anybody else catch the name of the sound effects guy: Mr.
>>> [removed] in foley [removed] in movie sound effects folks. Cute.
>
>Cute, but in the wrong time zone.  Jack didn't come around until 59.

Ah, but you see, Mr. Foley got his _start_ in SFX at WENN back then;
he is obviously fairly young in the TV series. ;-)

I got a great chuckle from him when, while on the air live, they sprung
that "roaring rapids" ad lib reference on him, and after a moment of 
Deep Thought, he grabs a microphone and goes charging off to the mens' 
room. It was that pause to think the problem through as fast as he could
that I thought was really inspired. (Hey, does he have _any_ lines?
I don't remember hearing him speak.)

On another note, I wish they could pick up the pace of episodes. I know
there's only ten in all, but showing them at the rate of only two a month
makes it hard to pick up the momentum, IMHO. 

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Adobe Systems, Inc. (formerly Frame Technology)
Advanced Product Services
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:56:07 -0500 (EST)
From: SAH@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: SPERDVAC
Message-id: <01I05G5TNTMW8X19GF@[removed]>

SPERDVAC (The Society to Preserve and Encourage Radio Drama, Variety and
          Comedy) 
          P. O. Box 7177, Van Nuys, CA  91409-9712
          Phone 310 947 9800

SPERDVAC is a non-profit, educational public benefit corporation with six
         goals:

1. To provide the finest collection of quality radio programs that members
   may listen to and duplicate for their own collections.
2.  To seek out and honor the people who made radio's "Golden Age" possible.
3.  To promote and encourage drama, variety and comedy programs - old and
    new - on radio today.
4.  To collect and maintain, for members and other interested people, a
    library of radio history and to use this material in the publication of
    a newsletter, or special brochures, in preparation of an accurate and 
    complete account of radio history, from its earliest days to the present.
5.  To contribute to the support of non-commercial radio stations interested in     and aiding the goals of the society, including broadcasting "old-time"
    radio programs.
6.  To alert members to trends in dramas, variety and comedy broadcasting,
    and to publish special radio program listing and news releases to inform
    members and the general public.


Want to learn more about SPERDVAC? Read the March 1987 Smithsonian Magazine
available in your local library.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 96 11:41:00 EST
From: platecap@[removed] (Bob B)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ampex 641 open reel tape
Message-Id: <m0tcy0L-000YNSC@[removed]>

Here's my comments on the beloved Ampex 641 reel tape.
The government used tens of thousands of reels basically for logging use
(recording of ship communications).  This application is obviously
non-critical voice grade and ultra slow speed would likely fit 10 or
more hours on a single reel.

I've purchased hundreds of reels of 641 myself, and have had a lot of it
sitting on my shelves for over 15 years.  It does NOT have the squeal
problem the better grades of Ampex tape used to develop that have sat
around for several years.

HOWEVER, Ampex 641 is 1 mil, NON-back-coated, low grade oxide.
Thin mil (thickness as opposed to width) and no back-coating means it is
far more prone to print-though when stored for a long period.

The other problem is on the typical reel deck, the tape is extremely
hissy especially at lower speed.   If you have shows in your collection
that are hissy, it's probably caused by more than 1 generation of
dubbings on Ampex 641.

Now, if your reel machine is precisely biased for this tape (and many
models CANNOT be made correctly biased for 641) you can get passable
results, with some possible trade off to higher distortion.

If you're looking for tape to RECORD on, my recommendation is any of the
3-M reel tapes -- and HURRY, this is the last year 3-M will be making
reel tape!

Even the lowest grade 3-M tape (my personal favorite used to be #176 and
177 which had some equivalent numbers for consumer use) is LOWER NOISE
than Ampex 641.

You may run into tape mixed in with 641 that has a PINK tint to it.
This is really old 3-M (Scotch) [removed] an early formulation known
affectionately as Scotch 150, one of the early polyester tapes.  This
tape should normally be avoided since it is not only very old and is
hissy, but sheds a great deal.  You will find a little pile of pink
powder sitting under your machine if you run a whole reel through.

Now, as I said, it is POSSIBLE to get reasonable results if your machine
is set up correctly, or you have a Wollensak reel recorder made in 1965.
But since the average collector still using reel machines made in the
1970's and 1980's intended for consumer use, my comments will ring true.

If you have a pro-grade deck such as MCI, Otari, Scully, etc. obviously,
you can tweak the bias from front panel adjustments -- but why someone
would want to use government surplus tape on a machines like these is
beyond my imagination.

In summary, if you already have shows on your shelves on Ampex 641, you
don't have much to worry about.  641 doesn't squeak or grow mold like
the real old acetate tapes.  You may develop a print through problem,
but the tapes aren't going to rot away anytime soon.

If you are recording reels, I'd recommend finding a better tape (unless
of course, you stockpiled a closet full of 641 blanks).

Bob Burnham; BRC Productions; [removed] Box 2645; Livonia, MI 48151
voice (313) 277-3798;  fax (313) 277-3095; internet platecap@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:52:29 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Radio City Playhouse partial log
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

                    R A D I O   C I T Y   P L A Y H O U S E
                    ---------   -------   -----------------
            
                                <1948> - <1950>
 
                                 >> Partial <<
 
     First Show: 07-03-48                              Last Show: 01-01-50
     Number Shows: ??                              Audition Show: none
 
 
     Show Description:
 
     RADIO CITY PLAYHOUSE premered July 3, 1948 and ran until it's last
     curtain call on January 1, 1950.  This was a short-lived but solid
     drama series that frequently compared favorably with SUSPENSE drama.
     Some scripts for the series were written by Ray Bradbury (for example,
     "The Wind"), Steven Vincent Benet and Cornell Woolrich.  Frequent
     appearences were made by John Larkin and Jan Minor in major roles.
     Narration was by Fred Collins and Bob Warren.
 
 
     List Comments:
 
     This series is not well covered by the various vendors and clubs
     with the exception of NARA and AVPRO.  Since show titles are given
     at the show's opening, they match easily from source to source.
     Also, the show was referred to in the opening by "Attraction Number".
     This should help identify the number but few catalogs showed them.
 
     First show number was verified by 2 sources but last show was only
     mentioned in the AVPRO catalog.  Numbers followed by question marks
     mean they were found in only one catalog.  Dates with no titles are
     guesses on my part.  There may of may not have been shows on those 
     dates.
 
 
     List:
 
         Date      Da  Num  Title                                 Src Key
         --------  --  ---  ------------------------------------  ---------
         07-03-48  Sa    1  "Long Distance"                        23   78
         07-10-48  Sa    2? "Ground Floor Window                   2    78
         07-17-48  Sa    3? "Of Unsound Mind                       2    7
         07-24-48  Sa 
         07-31-48  Sa    5? "Whistle Daughter, Whistle"                 78
         08-07-48  Sa    6? "Special Delivery"                          78
         08-14-48  Sa    7? "Hit And Run"                               78
         08-21-48  Sa    8? "Fanny"                                     78
         08-30-48  Mo    9? "Betrayal"                                  78
         09-06-48  Mo   10? "King Of The Moon                      2    78
         09-11-48  Sa   11? "Mother"                                    78
         09-18-48  Sa   12? "Soundless"                                 78
         09-25-48  Sa   13? "The Dark Hour                         2    78
         11-08-48  Mo   14? "Promise"                                 5 78
         11-15-48  Mo   15  "The First and the Last"              1 3   78
         11-22-48  Mo
         11-29-48  Mo       "Temporarily Purple"                  1     78
         12-06-48  Mo       "Five Extra Noses"                    1     78
         12-13-48  Mo       "The Heritage of Wimpole Street"      1     78
         12-20-48  Mo       "Three Men"                           1     78
         12-27-48  Mo       "Strange Identity"                    1     78
         01-03-49  Mo 
         01-10-49  Mo       "Correction"                          1     78
         01-17-49  Mo       "Protrate of Lanore"                  1     78
         01-24-49  Mo       "The Wisdom of Eve"                   1     78
         01-31-49  Mo 
         02-07-49  Mo       "Machine"                             1     78
         02-14-49  Mo       "Elementals"                          1     78
         02-21-49  Mo       "One From Three"                        3  67
         02-25-49  Fr?      "Beat The Band"                       1
         02-07-49  Mo 
         03-14-49  Mo       "Weather Ahead"                           5
         03-21-49  Mo       "Blind Vengence"                      1     78
         03-28-49  Mo       "Luck"                                12    7
         04-04-49  Mo       "Wardrobe Trunk"                      12    7
         04-11-49  Mo 
         04-18-49  Mo       "Only Unto Him"                       1     7
         04-25-49  Mo
         05-02-49  Mo
         05-09-49  Mo
         05-16-49  Mo
         05-23-49  Mo
         05-30-49  Mo
         06-06-49  Mo       "Danger 8"                            1     7
         06-13-49  Mo       "How Love Came To Professor Guildea"  1     7
         06-20-49  Mo       "Motive for Murder"                   1     7
         06-27-49  Mo       "Legend of Teresa"                    1     7
         08-01-49  Mo       "Tension in 643"                      1     7
         08-08-49  Mo       "Level Crossing"                      1     7
         08-15-49  Mo   51  "Blackout"                               4
         08-22-49  Mo       "Joey Was Different"                  1     7
         08-29-49  Mo       "The Unguarded Moment"                1     7
         09-19-49  Mo       "Mother"                              1     7
                              (repeat?)
         09-??-49           "Affliction"                          1     7
         10-09-49  Su       "The Plotter"                         1     7
         10-16-49  Su       "Duet"                                 2   
         10-23-49  Su       "Ground Floor Window"                 1     7
         10-30-49  Su   58  "The Wind"                             2     8
         11-06-49  Su 
         11-13-49  Su       "Problem Child"                       1     7
         11-20-49  Su 
         11-27-49  Su       "Interval"                            1     7
         12-04-49  Su       "Local Storm"                         1     7
         12-11-49  Su       "Sibling"                             1     7
         12-18-49  Su       "The Wine of Orepale"                 1     7
         12-25-50  Su 
         01-01-50  Su       "Reflection" (last show)              1     7
         
         
     Information Sources:
 
     The information above was obtained from the following OTR vendor
     and club catalogs.  Contact them directly for more information.
 
         Key  Source
         ---  ------------------------------------------------------------
          1   North American Radio Archives (NARA), 134 Vincewood Dr., 
              Nicolasville, KY 40356.
          2   Radio Showcase (Steve Kelez), [removed] Box 4357, Santa Rosa, CA 
              95402
          3   Carr, Edward J., 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19512
          4   University of Memphis Radio Program Archive, Learning Media 
              Center, The University of Memphis, Memphis, TN 38152
          5   Radio Historical Association of Colorado, [removed] Box 1908, 
              Englewood, CO 80150
          6   Nostalgia Recordings (Ken Mills), 907 Maple Ave., Ridgefield, 
              NJ 07657
          7   AVPRO, [removed] Box 1392, Lake Elsinore, CA 92531-1392
          8   Great American Radio, PO Box 504 Genesee, MI 48437
 
     I have dealt with some of the above, but to be fair to all, this is not 
     an endorsement of them.  I receive nothing by mentioning them.  These 
     vendors and clubs have helped keep OTR alive.  Please support them.   
 
 
     Other Logs:
 
     This log is meant as a check list and source guide and is based on
     vendor catalogs.  Other, more detailed, logs are available from:
 
        Jay Hickerson, Box 4321, Hamden, Ct 06514
 
 
     Last Update: 01-18-96
 
 
     This log may be freely copied provided that the text is unchanged.
     Please share it with fellow OTR lovers.
 
     I would greatly appreciate any error corrections or additional
     information. Please send them to: Frank Passage, 109 Elmwood Road, 
     Verona, NJ 07044-2509 or via e-mail to passage@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 03:14:23 -0500
From: Lynchmob17@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: The Whistler
Message-ID: <960118031421_45487663@[removed]>

Everyone seems to be forgetting that the Whistler was played by
Gale Gordon in the premiere episode of the series.  Bill Forman was
the longest running host and the best, however.

Tim S. Turner

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Date: 18 Jan 1996 21:06:43 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Robert j. Field)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: OTR Radio Station List
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Station: WMAQ-AM
Frequency: 670
Power: ? *50,000 WATTS (NBC AFFILIATE)
Time: 11 - 12 PM (starts at midnight if Bull's game that night)
City: Chicago, IL.
********
Station: WAIT-AM
Frequency: 850
Power: ? *Flashlight Batteries ;-) * 
 *I believe it's really  5,000 watts day, 4,500 watts night*
Time: Sundays 12 - 4 PM
City: Chicago, IL (Crystal Lake?)

-- 
       For helpful Mac tips and tricks; useful files; product reviews; late breaking Mac news; and more, you're welcome to visit the Chicago Area Macintosh Area Users' Group at "[removed]" 

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:15:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RADIO SHOWCASE internet sale!
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hello [removed]

   Steve Case of RADIO SHOWCASE mentioned before Christmas of having a
sale of his otr tapes as an "internet special sale" of $[removed] for most of
his material (his catalog of 9000 shows is available on Lou's www site). I
have nothing to gain from my mention of it again here, but I just wanted
to remind everyone reading this that this is a really good deal! The price
is for a "no frills" tape (no plastic box or fancy lable), and even though
I rarely pay for shows (I usually trade), I'm placing a large order with
Steve very soon!  This price comes close to the cost of obtaining tapes
from the various clubs when you consider the cost of tapes, rental and
postage fees.  At the otr conventions, I've found the going rate there is
$2 per [removed] but now you can place an order to Steve before the 31st of
January and pay the same price!  While it may not be as much fun as an otr
convention, it sure beats the travel expenses! 

  I've ordered from Steve before and received fast service, and he is every
fair about pointing out the quality of the recording, as you'll see in his
catlog.  I urge everyone to check this deal out, and I hope Steve might
consider extending this special price into a permanent price just for us
internet users!  Well, Steve?  What you do say?

--------------------------------------------------
|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
--------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 18:11:08 -0500
From: rcorn00@[removed] (r cornwell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Shadow - Duffy's Tavern
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello, from a newcomer who can remember listening to OTR when the programs
were first broadcast live. 

This message was written Thusday, January 11, 1996 but our service provider
has been off line since early Thursday. Now back on line, I hope. 

In recent Digests there has been discussion on The Shadow, Lou Genco asked
if anyone wanted to compile a log to help fill in the gaps of Dale Beers
log.  I have a book entitled The Shadow Scrapbook written by Walter B.
Gibson which includes much background information on The Shadow and includes
a listing of Shadow radio programs from 1930 through 1954. The book is
copywrited 1979 and has ISBNX 0-15-681475-7. If anyone has a question on a
date or title they can e-mail me at: rcorn00@[removed] To answer [removed] in
Issue 11, Orson Welles played the Shadow on radio from September 26, 1937
through the Summer season in 1938.  His first radio program was entitled
Death House Rescue and this book includes the script for that program.

John Henley asks who sponsored the Welles' Shadow.  According to the Shadow
Scrapbook, Blue Coal sponsored Season 4 with Welles, the broadcasts were
from 09/26/37 to 03/20/38.  The 1938 Summer Season was syndicated by
Goodrich Safety Silvertowns. The dates and times of the Summer 1938 Season
varied with the locality. Bill Johnstone assumed the Shadow role starting
September 1938.  The Summer 1939 Season was a rebroadcast of the 15
broadcasts from the 1938 Summer Season and had Welles as the Shadow with
Goodrich as the sponsor.

Also, in a recent Digest there was a question regarding the Duffy's Tavern
Christmas Show with Jeff Chandler.  My copy of that show lists an air date
of 12/22/48.

Now a question.  When and at what location will the OTR convention be held
in Cincinnati???

Thanks.

Bob Cornwell

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:30:55 -0800
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: "Trenches" Shadow article follow-up
Message-ID: <960118152939_22767666@[removed]>

War in the Oxide Trenches (the article about the Shadow lawsuit) was done in
1991.  I DO have it in electronic form still ;-)

I helped the author with some catalog work earlier this year and I had
forgotten I had re-organized several of his articles including that one.

I'll get the OK on it for public distribution, if anyone is interested.

Bob Burnham, [removed] Box 2645, Livonia, MI 48151-0645
platecap@[removed] / platecap@[removed]

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