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Date: 8/20/2006 9:34 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 226
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Faulty Memories                       [ "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed] ]
      Re: Thinking It Over                  [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
      The Lone Ranger's Orgin               [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      Re: your money or your life           [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Pete Kely's Blues                     [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      re: Help for a Gunsmoke episode       [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
      The Biggest Benny laugh`              [ Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed]; ]
      This week in radio history 20-26 Aug  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Henry Aldrich                         [ Briantaves1879@[removed] ]
      Richard Diamond episode               [ Briantaves1879@[removed] ]
      8-20 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      An important anniversary              [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      More Awesome Swells!                  [ Wich2@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:41:37 -0400
    From: "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Faulty Memories

    I concur wholeheartedly with what John Mayer asserts regarding faulty
    memories.  Now, what digest is THIS, again?

    Stuart Lubin

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:04:07 -0400
    From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Thinking It Over

>     I think that many more people have heard =of= the routine
>     than have =heard= the routine.  And somehow those all are
>     convinced that he said, "I'm thinking, I'm thinking."

    It likely doesn't help that, for decades afterward, when
    asked about the bit, Jack's writers usually told the
    story of the genesis of that line (where the writers are
    sitting around, completely stumped as to how the routine
    should be topped) as them peppering one another with the
    question repeatedly, in rapid-fire fashion, before one
    breaks under pressure, blurting out the alternate line quoted
    above.

    Eventually, they reworked that response slightly to fit Jack's
    cadence, airing in the "I'm thinking it over" form. But the
    other version was likely heard by more people -- particularly
    interviewers and media historians, the ones who write the books
     -- more times in the intervening years, making a deeper
    impression than the original -- which, let's face it, was only
    reprised once or twice in broadcast media (major ones, anyway)
    after 1948.

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:04:34 -0400
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger's Orgin

    After about 70 yeas of having the lone ranger as a hero my eyes have been
    open. The lone ranger is deserter. Can he be trusted? When I started to
    listen the series was well into its 5th or 6th year. I really never cared
    about who he was. Thousands of loyal new listeners started to listen as they
    became old enough. There were never repeats so the new listeners never heard
    of LR's orgin. I don't think they cared.

    Lets be rational, the wise Indian, Tonto, buried the dead Rangers, and made
    the extra empty grave, so the Cavendish gang would assume all the Rangers
    were killed. This also gave Reid time to recover.

    Remember the wise Tonto took things into his own hands, Because Ranger Reid
    was wounded and on the brink of death for four days and a long recovery time
    ahead. When Reid  recovered Tonto told what he had done and told Ranger Reid
    "You Lone Ranger " the rest are all dead. Reid did what he to do with his
    new life. Put your self in his place.

    But remember, most of all, this is fiction, a story. Would anyone of us care
    if the episode "The Origin of the Lone Ranger" wasn't around? I nerve heard
    the Origin episode until a few yeas ago. So am going to burn up all my Lone
    Ranger Tapes, No.  Is he still my Hero? Yes. Hi-YO Silver, away for ever and
    ever.

    Frank McGurn

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:42:15 -0400
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: your money or your life
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    In a message dated 8/19/06 11:18:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     I think that many more people have heard =of= the routine than have
>     =heard= the routine.  And somehow those all are convinced that he
>     said, "I'm thinking, I'm thinking."  Or perhaps they like the line
>     better that way.

    I've wondered if maybe a radio critic or columnist wrote it up that way ("I'm
    thinking, I'm thinking!") back when it happened, and that's how became known
    that way.  It probably wasn't common back then to so easily record everything
    and just reach for the cassette player to hear it again, so the writer perhaps
    relied strictly on memory and that's how it came out.

    Dixon

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:42:25 -0400
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Pete Kely's Blues

    Here is info. on Pete Kelly as I found it on Google.

    Pete Kelly's Blues was a movie in 1955 Produced & Directed by Jack Webb
    ItStared Andy Devine, Ella Fitzgerald, Peggy Lee, Janet Leigh, Lee Marvin,
    Edmond O'Brien & Jack Webb.

    In 1959 Pete Kelly became a TV series.
    Directed by Jack Webb

    Cast (in alphabetical order)
    Connee [removed] Savannah Brown
    Anthony [removed] Johnny Cassiano
    Phil [removed] Fred
    William [removed] Pete Kelly
    Than [removed] George Lupo

    Produced by
    Jack [removed] executive producer

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:42:38 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  re: Help for a Gunsmoke episode

    Hello, the only log I've seen which gives episode descriptions, and is very
    helpful, is
    [removed]
    so if you have other questions about a date of a show, then try searching
    that web site with a keyword or name from that episode and finding the info
    that way. You can also search by actor, and find all of the database entries
    which have that actor in a show.
    Matthew

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:44:52 -0400
    From: Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Biggest Benny laugh`

    It was mentioned a few OTR Digests ago that the Jack Benny "Your
    money or your life" routine got the longest and biggest laugh on his
    radio show. Just a note of interest here:  That turns out NOT to be
    so. I was talking to George Balzer (one of Bennys writerer) and he
    said that the biggest laugh on the Benny show was when Mary
    Livingston was supposed to say she was gong to have a Swiss cheese
    sandwich. Instead, she said "Chiss Sweese sandwich" and it brought
    the house down. The audience could not stop laughing. Balzer went on
    to tell me that it was so funny the entire writing staff kept milking
    the line Chiss Sweese for a good number of other shows aired
    afterwards. I have that show and, indeed, it is one of the loudest,
    longest and funniest laughs I've ever heard.  If you've got a copy of
    the show, listen (or re-listen) to it and compare it to the "Your
    money or your life" routine. You will see that George Balzer is correct.

    Ken Greenwald

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:45:01 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This week in radio history 20-26 August

     From Those Were The Days --

    8/22

    1947 - After many years as a 15-minute daily serial, Jack Armstrong, the
    All-American Boy, was heard for the first time as a 30-minute feature on
    ABC. Remember, if you want to grow up to be big and strong like Jack
    Armstrong, keep these three rules in mind: Get plenty of sleep, fresh
    air and exercise. Make a friend of soap and water, because dirt breeds
    germs -- and germs can make people sickly and weak. And for sound
    nourishment and keen flavor, eat a big bowlful of Wheaties, the
    Breakfast of Champions, with plenty of milk or cream and some type of fruit.

    8/23

    1923 - Billy Jones and Ernie Hare, The Happiness Boys, were heard on
    radio for the first time. The two were billed as radio's first comedians
    and were also credited with creating and performing the first singing
    commercial.

    8/24

    1950 - The summer replacement radio show for Suspense, titled Somebody
    Knows, was heard for the final time. The program offered a reward of
    $5,000 for information that led to the solving of crimes. Somebody Knows
    began with the introduction, "You out there. You, who think you have
    committed the perfect crime -- that there are no clues, no witnesses --
    listen. Somebody knows."

    8/25

    1949 - NBC debuted Father Knows Best. The Thursday night program aired
    for five years. Robert Young played the role of Jim Anderson, the
    ever-patient father. The rest of the family included wife Margaret, son
    Bud and lovely daughters Betty (the eldest) and Kathy. The family lived
    on Maple Street in Springfield.

    8/26

    1873 -- Lee DeForest was born on this day in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
    DeForest seemed to be a born inventor. He held patents for hundreds of
    different items including the photoelectric cell and the surgical radio
    knife. But none had as much impact on the world as his invention of the
    electron tube, specifically the triode, a three element vacuum tube,
    which later became the audion tube -- possibly the most significant
    invention that made radio possible.

    1939 - Arch Oboler's Plays presented the NBC Symphony, for the first
    time, as the musical backdrop for the drama, This Lonely Heart.

    Joe

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:45:07 -0400
    From: Briantaves1879@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Henry Aldrich
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>     Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:03:46 -0400
>     From: "Tom Snyder" <tsnyder@[removed];
>     To: <[removed]@[removed];
>     Subject: The Aldrich Family

>     The program The Aldrich Family was both long running and had well known
>     companies for sponsorship. Yet there seems to be relatively few
>     episodes in circulation and very little "logging" of episodes. Why is
>     this?

    And a related question, does anyone know if the Henry Aldrich movie series of
    the 1940s has been on television recently? I saw them as a kid in the early
    1970s, in Los Angeles. I wonder if they are not shown as a result, like so
    many
    of the other Paramount Bs, of receiving minimal tv distribution since the
    1980s, or could there be a rights issue tied in with the radio show's scarcity
    mentioned above?

    Thanks, Brian Taves
    Briantaves1879@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:45:15 -0400
    From: Briantaves1879@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Richard Diamond episode
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    I wonder if anyone knows the title/date of the episode of RICHARD
    DIAMOND--PRIVATE DETECTIVE, starring Dick Powell, in which a wealthy, aging
    man arranges
    for his death at the hands of a mobster, only to regret it and ask for the
    detective's assistance.  Blake Edwards did another version of the same basic
    plot
    for PETER GUNN as well.

    Curious as it sounds, this plot--wealthy man, bored/tired of life, arranges
    to be killed by a criminal so the life insurance will benefit his wife/family,
    changes his mind but can't find the criminal, so goes "on the run" to save his
    life, is apparently from a Jules Verne 1878 novel, The Tribulations of a
    Chinese in China.  It was adapted into a play by the DeMIlle brothers early
    in the
    20th century, and subsequently has been (in many variations) used as plots in
    various radio and tv shows.

    Thanks, Brian Taves
    Briantaves1879@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:30:30 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  8-20 births/deaths

    August 20th births

    08-20-1881 - Edgar Guest - Birmingham, England - d. 8-5-1959
    poet: (Poet Laureate of Radio) "Edgar Guest in Welcome Valley"; "It
    Can Be Done"
    08-20-1905 - Jack Teagarden - Vernon, TX - d. 1-15-1964
    trombonist: "Eddie Condon"s Jazz Concert"; "Paul Whiteman Show"
    08-20-1907 - Alan Reed (aka Teddy Bergman) - NYC - d. 6-14-1977
    actor: Falstaff Openshaw "Fred Allen Show"; Pasquale "Life with Luigi"
    08-20-1908 - Al Lopez - Tampa, FL - d. 10-29-2005
    baseball hall of fame: "Greatest Sports Thrills"; "Tops In Sports"
    08-20-1908 - Andre Baruch - Paris, France - d. 9-15-1991
    announcer, disc jockey: "Your Hit Parade"; "Myrt and Marge"
    08-20-1911 - Robert Riley Crutcher - Missouri - d. 8-10-1974
    writer: "Fabulous Dr. Tweedy"; "Eddie Bracken Show"
    08-20-1917 - Catherine McCune - Honolulu, Hawiian Territory
    actor: Clara Potts "Scattergood Baines"; "Joe Penner Show"
    08-20-1918 - Henry Leff - NYC
    actor: Ray Mallard "Candy Matson, YU2-8209"
    08-20-1918 - Jacqueline Susann - Philadelphis, PA - d. 9-21-1974
    actor: Lola the Cigarette Girl "Morey Amsterdam Show"
    08-20-1923 - Jim Reeves - nr. Galloway, Panola County, TX - d. 7-31-1964
    country singer: "Jim Reeves Show"; "Grand Old Opry"; "Country Style
    [removed]"
    08-20-1929 - Frank Bresee - Los Angeles, CA
    actor: Little Beaver "Red Ryder"
    08-20-1933 - Ted Donaldson - NYC
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"

    August 20th deaths

    01-16-1901 - Sid Silvers - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-20-1976
    actor: Beetle "Phil Baker Show"; "Jack Benny Program"
    03-12-1908 - William Lally - New York - d. 8-20-1956
    actor: "The NBC University Theatre"
    03-16-1916 - Walter Reed - Fort Ward, Bainbridge Island, WA - d.
    8-20-2001
    actor: "The Bombadier"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    06-16-1912 - Ilona Massey - Budapest, Hungary - d. 8-20-1974
    actor: Mata Hari-style operative in World War II "Top Secret";
    "Screen Guild Theatre"
    11-11-1897 - James Goss - Chicago, IL - d. 8-20-1976
    actor: Uncle Jim Fairfield "Jack Armstrong, The All-American Boy"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:09:30 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  An important anniversary

    There was a certain amount of publicity a few days ago over the 28th
    anniversary of the death of Elvis Presley.  There has been much less
    notice of a much more important anniversary today:  the 28th
    anniversary of the death of Groucho Marx.  Groucho's death was
    overshadowed by Elvis's, three days earlier.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:21:30 -0400
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  More Awesome Swells!

    From: "Ian Grieve" _austotr@[removed]_
    (mailto:austotr@[removed])

>     Re ...  Orson Welles, I do have a BBC Transcription which I
>     think I have mentioned  here before ... It is a Michael Parkinson interview
>     of Orson Welles.  The  interview runs for 27 minutes and within it there
>     are 4
>     self-contained short  [removed]

    Dear Ian-

    If you did mention this before, I missed it. It sounds fascinating; a  little
    like a dry run for Bogdanovich's tapes/book.

    Can you post this online, or make copies available?

    Best,
    -Craig

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