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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2006 : Issue 130
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
5-11 births/deaths [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
Re: thinking in color [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Re: B&W vs Color [ "Dave Adams" <daveadams-hollywood@c ]
Valuable Radio Premium Rings? [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
ETERNAL LIGHT [ "David S. Siegel" <otrdsiegel@veriz ]
Some thoughts on visualization [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
Dick Tracy Log [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
color, monochrome, and other psychol [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
Himan Brown [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Re: CBS [ Martin Fass <watchstop@frontiernet. ]
Harry Houdini [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
"Jack Armstrong" [removed] maybe? [ Jim Erskine <homeway@[removed]; ]
Superman announcer [ Dancingdays72777@[removed] ]
Andrews Sisters [ dm4yeshua@[removed] ]
LIGHTS OUT [ "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@m ]
CBS RMT Music [ "Jay Spell" <jaspell@[removed]; ]
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 22:35:33 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-11 births/deaths
May 11th births
05-11-1888 - Irving Berlin - Temum, Russia - d. 9-22-1989
composer: "Ed Sullivan Show"; "People's Platform"
05-11-1892 - Margaret Rutherford - London, England - d. 5-22-1972
actor: "Wisdon of Miss Marple"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
05-11-1894 - Martha Graham - Allegheny, PA - d. 4-1-1991
choreographer: Miss Hush on "Truth or Consequences"
05-11-1895 - George Henninger - Binghamton, NY - d. 12-28-1953
musician: "Brenda Curtis"; "Ladies be Seated"; "Modern Romances"
05-11-1895 - Maurice Joachim - d. 11-xx-1980
actor: Omar "Omar, the Mystic"; "Unseen Friend "Your Unseen Friend"
05-11-1899 - Forrest Lewis - Knightstown, IN - d. 6-2-1977
actor: Richard Q. Peavey "Great Gildersleeve"; Roy Delfeeno "Vic and
Sade"
05-11-1900- Georgia Fifield - d. 3-6-1985
actor: Mrs. Hipplewater "Frank Watanabe and Honorable Arcie"
05-11-1902 - Bidu Sayao - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - d. 3-12-1999
sopranist opera singer: "The Metropolitan Opera"; "The Telephone Hour"
05-11-1907 - Kent Taylor - Nashua, IA - d. 4-11-1987
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
05-11-1909 - Pattie Chapin - Atlantic City, NJ
singer: "Ziegfeld Follies of the Air"
05-11-1910 - Johnnie 'Skat' Davis - Brazil, IN - d. 11-28-1983
trumpet: "The Fred Waring Show"
05-11-1911 - Doodles Weaver - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-13-1983
comedian: (Brother of Pat Weaver) Professor Feedlebaum "Spike Jones
Show"
05-11-1911 - Phil Silvers - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-1-1985
comedian: "Phil Silver's Show"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Suspense"
05-11-1912 - Bob Trendler
pianist, conductor: "Bob Trendler Orchestra"
05-11-1912 - Foster Brooks - Louisville, KY - d. 12-20-2001
disc jockey: "Foster Brooks Show"; "Melody, Inc."; "Million Dollar
Ballroom"
05-11-1913 - Tutti Camaratta - Glen Ridge, NJ
orchestra leader: "Double Feature"
05-11-1914 - Bob Atcher - Hardin County, KY - d. 10-31-1993
singer: "Faultless Starch Time"; "WLS Barn Dance"
05-11-1919 - John Michael Hayes - Worcester, MA
writer: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; "Twelve Players"; "Sam Spade";
"Alias Jane Doe"
05-11-1922 - Joseph Stopak - d. 7-13-1992
music: "Creeps by Night"; "The Fat Man"
05-11-1927 - Mort Sahl - Montreal, Canada
comedian: "Mort Sahl Show"
05-11-1930 - Marilyn King - Salt Lake City, UT
singer: (The King Sisters) "Horace Heidt and His Brigadiers"
May 11th deaths
01-29-1874 - John D. Rockefeller, Jr. - Cleveland, OH - d. 5-11-1960
rich person: "The Collier Hour"
03-11-1952 - Douglas Adams - Cambridge, England - d. 5-11-2001
writer: "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
04-04-1889 - Dorothy Gordon - Odessa, Russia - d. 5-11-1970
moderator: "Dorothy Gordon's Youth Forum"
05-08-1919 - Lex Barker - Rye, NY - d. 5-11-1973
actor: "MGM Theatre of the Air"
06-13-1873 - Jean Adair - Hamilton, Ontario, Canada - d. 5-11-1953
actor: "Radio Guild"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
07-25-1906 - Johnny Hodges - Cambridge, MA - d. 5-11-1970
alto saxophonist: "Esquire Jazz Concert"; "Duke Ellington and His
Orchestra"
08-16-1900 - Walter Kinsella - NY - d. 5-11-1975
actor: Pat Patton "Dick Tracy"; Sergeant Mullins "Mr. and Mrs. North"
11-20-1900 - Chester Gould - Pawnee, Oklahoma Territory - d. 5-11-1985
comic strip artist: "Dick Tracy"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Birthplace of Glenn Yarborough
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 23:52:37 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: thinking in color
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Imagining a radio show in color or black and white? Honestly, it depends on
how it sounds. If it's a high quality recording I think of it in color but if
it's all scratchy I feel like I'm imagining something in black and white.
The "War of the Worlds" installment of Orson Welles' "Mercury Theatre on the
Air" is something I always visualize in black and white, along with the 15
minute
"Lum and Abner" shows. "The Phil Harris and Alice Faye Show" (Rexall years)
is something I've always pictured in color. Don't ask me why.
Dixon
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 23:52:32 -0400
From: "Dave Adams" <daveadams-hollywood@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: B&W vs Color
Subject: Re: B&W vs Color
I had to give this a lot of thought. I realized that my imagination doesn't
fill in details to the level of B&W/Color. It's dream-like and not even
fully formed at the edges. I suppose I see a kind of sepiatone. A detective
show like Johnny Dollar or Dragnet might not even generate mind's eye
imagery whereas The Six Shooter with Jimmy Stewart or Superman always does.
Depends on the type of show.
Now I can tell you that I often remembered B&W TV shows in Color when I was
a youngster.
(New Member;) Dave Adams
visual FX for film/TV- Digital Domain-Los Angeles
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 23:53:23 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Valuable Radio Premium Rings?
Sandy Singer, remarking on my observation on the Jack Armstrong Dragon's
Eye Ring, observes
The Jack Armstrong ring is worth a fortune.
Well, Ted Hake's guide figures it at as much as $1,300. Good, but other
radio-premium rings get about the same price (the Carey Salt The Shadow
ring is one). I've seen an intact Captain Midnight Aztec Sun God Ring
sell for $1,375 on eBay. Of course, with any auction, the value is to the
winning bidder.
For anyone with one of those marvelous glow-in-the-dark rings, a really
nice way of looking at them is under ultraviolet light. It makes them
glow to their maximum potential, without intensity decay.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 07:54:11 -0400
From: "David S. Siegel" <otrdsiegel@[removed];
To: OTR DIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: ETERNAL LIGHT
With appreciation to Derek, a respected radio scholar and researcher,
who purchased Eli Segal's wonderful book concerning the long running
inspirational program: THE ETERNAL LIGHT at the recent CINCI CONVENTION and
who posted about the book on this [removed]
WHILE WE ARE NOT THE PUBLISHERS OF THAT BOOK, WE ARE HAPPY TO BE ONE
OF IT''S DISTRIBUTORS AND IF ANYONE WANTS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT THEY
ARE INVITED TO CHECK OUT: [removed]
AND BY THE WAY: Eli happens to be the son of Cantor Robert Segal, whose
voice is heard at the start of each program.
DAVE SIEGEL
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 10:34:23 -0400
From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Some thoughts on visualization
Add me to the group that doesn't see OTR in color or black-and-white. I
don't see it at all, I don't make visualizations of OTR at all, except
in rare cases when I construct a still image of a particular scene. I
feel OTR, but not in the touchy-feely sense. I'm using the word feel
because I don't have a better word to describe my experience.
When I was young, I went through a battery of tests trying to exactly
diagnose my pretty significant learning disability (it came down to very
poor hand/eye coordination). During all these tests, it was discovered
that I had very good spatial relations skills.
Some of you may remember the tests where they show you a picture of a
folded piece of paper with holes punched in it, and you're supposed to
pick which picture it will look like when it's unfolded. Or the ones
where shapes are shown from different angles. I aced those tests
because I could create and manipulate those shapes in my mind - but I
don't do it visually. I just know what they are and how they move, but
I don't see them. I feel them. After I'm done feeling them, I have to
translate them back into a visual image to pick the correct test answer.
It's the same for me for OTR. In a scene - especially a Dragnet,
Gunsmoke, or other good sound effects show - I know where everything is,
how the people/cars/objects move through the scene, how they interact
with their environment. But I don't "see" them. They're just there in
my mind. And if I don't like the way the scene is playing out, I can
move everything around in my mind and do it a different way.
Weird, huh?
-chris holm
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:03:36 -0400
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dick Tracy Log
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:04:08 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: color, monochrome, and other psychological
artifacts
There was a discussion of autism on Terry Gross' NPR show "Fresh Air," in
which she interviewed a woman who overcame an autistic condition
sufficiently to write a book about it. The title of the book is "Thinking
in Pictures," and this is what she says she does. I don't, or at least I
don't think so.
I don't think I either dream or listen to radio shows in either color or
black and white: my thoughts have their own color scheme that's not related
to either the physical spectrum or the signals my visual apparatus converts
it to.
Those of us interested in psychology might find our reviews of 'the theater
of the mind' to be a useful window into minds in general.
M Kinsler
who also forgets the color of his automobile in the parking lot.
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:07:18 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Himan Brown
Ryan O stated
The interviewer asked him where the music came from that was used in the
Mystery Theater. Brown claimed that all of the music had been especially
composed for the RMT. This just isn't true. I've heard much of the exact
same music played in old television shows such as Perry mason, The Twilight
Zone, Gunsmoke, Rawhide and others.
If I remember correctly, CBS had an entire library of music that they used
for their old TV shows. I'm sure that's where Brown got it. I do wonder if
any of that music is still available anywhere.
You are correct. Brown had access to a vast library of music in the CBS
archives and free reign to use whatever he wanted - legally. That included
the Bernard Hermann musical bridges Ryan described (same bridges used in
Twilight Zone episodes, Perry Mason, Rawhide, etc.) and theme songs for
shows such as Dark Shadows. Brown's memory (at least a few years ago) was
intact because I asked about some vague programs and he was accurate about
the details. But depending on how he wanted the history to be written (as I
gather), he gave me mistakes for obvious reasons - example - it is a known
fact that Raymond Edward Johnson did not get along well with Brown during
the Inner Sanctum years (1941-1945) and when Johnson left the show for
military service and later returned, Brown would not let him back even as a
guest. Johnson later recalled many times that he and Brown never got along
but when I asked Brown once about Johnson's association about the series,
all I got was "he only worked on four episodes." I corrected Brown, telling
him he was on the show for four years and even commented that I had MANY
episodes with Johnson as a host but he tried to correct me and reinstated
that Johnson worked ONLY on four episodes. That and a few other
mis-corrections kept me from using any material from a phone interview for
any of my books.
Not knocking Brown, he's a nice man and a legend of his time period, but an
excellent example of how some people try to re-write history when the
opportunity knocks.
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:10:47 -0400
From: Martin Fass <watchstop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: CBS
Must comment that what really MATTERS is not whether our cultural
history is retaining the knowledge that the name of the network begins
with "Columbia," but the thing that has been making all the difference,
and will continue to do so, is that virtually all that the Coluumbia
Broadcasting System brought to us is gone forever. (Excepting, of
course, the valuable materials preserved on tapes and disks.) Radio
and television studios were demolished, or left standing only as
production facilities available for rent or lease. More importantly,
the heritage of something so vital as CBS News has been trashed,
remaining only to the extent that it is good for selling a little time
to sponsors, provided it entertains, and shocks people a bit now and
then, and does not take risks attempting to report with intelligence
and responsibility. So it goes, and it seems the killers and the
spoilers have won the day. I am sure Marshall Dillon is at least as
discouraged as I am.
--Martin Fass
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:49:42 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Harry Houdini
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That's right. Harry Houdini wasn't the famous magician's real name.
He was born Erich Weiss. Some people have said that he was more
of an escape artist than a magician. He did have quite a following as far as
fan bases go, and any appearance he made to perform his escapes were
well attended. I believe his death was much less theatrical than his life
was. Someone told me that he died of an infection which arose from an
appendectomy he had. His Chinese Water Torture was among one of the
most well known of his escapes during the early parts of the twentieth
century.
Sincerely,
Kenneth Clarke
Another OTR Fan
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:38:50 -0400
From: Jim Erskine <homeway@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "Jack Armstrong" [removed] maybe?
Hi OTR Listers,
A friend wrote to us asking if we knew any existing "Jack Armstrong" episodes
featuring
a Don Gordini in the title role (or perhaps as a supporting character).
Here's her note:
"My husband's uncle's name was Don Gordoni (Gordoni was his stage [removed]
God-given
last name was Goldstein before the name change). He was the original Jack
Armstrong when it first [removed] have newspaper clippings about it. He was
later
killed in WW2. I know Don Ameche's brother played the part at some point and
so did several
others through the years. I would be so grateful of any information you
could find. My husband's birthday is in a couple of months and it would be
a great birthday present to find any of the programs that his uncle starred
in!:o) "
...so, can anyone verify if this is correct, and point me to some episodes
that have
him as an actor? Thanks!
Best Wishes,
Jim Erskine aka kylistener
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:34:39 -0400
From: Dancingdays72777@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Superman announcer
Does anyone know who the announcer on Superman was in its earlier
[removed] to Jackson Beck taking over? I can't seem to find it
listed anywhere.
Thanks,
Matt
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:35:12 -0400
From: dm4yeshua@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Andrews Sisters
5-11-06
This is my first time writing in and I don't know if this will post in the
I-newsletter, but this is my intent. I have fallen in love with the
Andrews Sisters and have become a great fan. I have many of their OTR
shows from 1944-1945. This show was entitled, The Andrews Sisters show,
as I am sure many know. I recently read a book on their life story and
really was amazed at how they rose to fame so quickly and how much support
they were for our troops in WW2. Patti, at almost 90 yrs old, is the only
surviving sister and I would love to contact her and thank her for her
music and their patriotism during the war. Does anyone know how to
contact her? The book I read is entitled, Swing it! and it can be
purchased on Amazon brand new for a very reasonable price. I highly
recommend it.
David Bossenberger Jr.
Lapeer, MI
dm4yeshua@[removed]
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:35:32 -0400
From: "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@[removed];
To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: LIGHTS OUT
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Thanks to [removed] King for clarification of the origin of the recent airing of
"Rocket From Manhattan" from
September 20, 1945 that we aired on a recent Heritage Radio Theatre program.
RR is correct that it
was confusing, since the show LIGHTS OUT FANTASIES dis air during the Summer
of 1945. The
series, ARCH OBOLER'S PLAYS was heard On Mutual from April 5th to October 11th
of that year. The
LIGHTS OUT intro and outgo sound as though they were from the Ironized Yeast
series. What made the
thing even more confusing wwas that FANTASIES FROM LIGHTS OUT (Wyllis Cooper
scripts)
was running on NBC July 14th to Sept. 1st, apparently at the same time that
Oboler was doing his
"Plays" on Mutual. Oboloer material was later re-broadcast as THE DEVIL & MR.
O in transcribed syndicated
format 1970-1973. Many of the original works of Oboler were then rebroadcast
under the new title.
One of the more complex broadcast histories !! Tom Heathwood - Heritage
Radio Theatre.
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:36:29 -0400
From: "Jay Spell" <jaspell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: CBS RMT Music
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Ryan O. recently wondered about the availability of "RMT" music. And Ryan, it
was fascinating, if annoying, reading your Hyman Brown statements. We are all
long-time fans of his work, but ...
Anyway, in 1986 or so, a music label called Varise Sarabande released two CDS
called "The Best Of The Twilight Zone. Volume One was their catalog no. VCD
47233, Volume Two, VCD 47247. These two discs were compiled from five earlier
vinyl volumes of original music from said TV series. Unfortunately, Varise
didn't take long to further compile these onto one disc. The great news is
Varise accessed original masters of this Van Cleeve material, and their
transfers are flawless. So the sound and presentation on the CDs could not be
better. I'm thinking these discs shouldn't be hard to find with a little web
crawling. "Zone" and "RMT" fans will love hearing all this familiar
incidental and background music from its source. (That haunting "RMT" opening
music is from the "Zone" episode 'Two.') The current Varise catalog can be
viewed at: [removed] .
Very much enjoy the list, and thank you for all your great work, [removed]
Spell
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