Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #312
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 11/11/2006 10:19 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 312
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Finding Fibber                        [ "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  And, another [removed]                 [ "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  Radio Poets                           [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
  Poets on Radio                        [ Ivan Watson <watsoni@[removed]; ]
  E. J. (Ed) Rosenberg                  [ William Harker <wharker@[removed] ]
  Say Goodnight Gracie                  [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
  Bert the Turtle                       [ mikennancy2001@[removed] ]
  Life of Riley book                    [ Ben Ohmart <benohmart@[removed]; ]
  Lightning Jim                         [ "Barbara Harmon" <jimharmonotr@char ]
  The blacklist & the b'casting indust  [ <vzeo0hfk@[removed]; ]
  The Dennis Show                       [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Christmas Carol at FOTR               [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
  11-11 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Radio store                           [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  McCarthyism                           [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  Re: Ishkabibble and Poets on OTR      [ Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed]; ]
  Re: mis-quotes                        [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:18:55 -0500
From: "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest (E-mail)" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Finding Fibber

Hi all,

Today, I have a customer who is asking me for episodes of Fibber McGee and
Molly that contain a few of the series' trademark phrases.  It's a tough
thing to come up with because - although it seems like these phrases were
used a lot, it's hard to pin-point a specific episode that uses them!  Are
there any Fibber fans out there who might be able to help me out?  The list
of phrases that the customer forwarded to me is as follows:

1. You're a good man, McGee.

2. 'Taint funny McGee.

3. Oh No, not the closet door.

If anyone can recommend any specific epsiodes, I would be grateful.

Karen Lerner
Radio Spirits

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:22:46 -0500
From: "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest (E-mail)" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  And, another [removed]

Oops - I forgot to mention this in my last [removed]

I have yet another customer who is looking for something that is a bit
different from most of what RS carries - music.  He is interested in finding
out where he could get some "Patterns in Music" with John Doremus, and/or
Earl Nightingale shows.  This is something that I know we can't give him, so
I thought I'd ask if there are any music fans out there who could make any
recommendations of places to start looking for these programs?

Karen Lerner
Radio Spirits

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:23:11 -0500
From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Poets

Then there was Harry McNaughton on "It Pays To Be Ignorant."

"I have a poem, Mr. Howard" set the stage for one his, um. masterpieces.

BILL KNOWLTON

Just got Bill Idelson's new book on "Vic & Sade." Looks like it's got lots
of script excerpts. Can't wait to dig into it. If you're looking for me I'll
be in the small house half way up the next block for a few [removed]

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:53:30 -0500
From: Ivan Watson <watsoni@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Poets on Radio
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Speaking of poets on radio, has anyone heard of a show called "Vance Graham,
the Original Telephone Poet"

  I have an audio copy (taken direct from a transcription disc) from August
23, 1946. It is a fifteen-minute show and on it, Mr. Graham "pretends" to
take listener's calls requesting poems and then reads their favourites on the
air.

  Can anyone tell me if this was a regular series or might the copy I have be
an audition show that never aired? Seems rather obscure either way.

  Cheers,

  Ivan

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:56:00 -0500
From: William Harker <wharker@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  E. J. (Ed) Rosenberg

As with so many other people somehow involved in "The Adventures of
Sam Spade" radio show, there is little information I have been able
to find, thus far, about E. J. (Ed) Rosenberg.

Rosenberg was the producer for The Fat Man (another Hammett-related
show) and The Clock.  He also is the person who acted as the
middleman between Hammett and Regis Radio Corp. in the purchase of
the character copyrights from The Maltese Falcon that provided the
basis for the copyright infringement lawsuit brought by Warner Brothers.

Diane Johnson quotes Hammett-related anecdotes by Rosenberg but does
not supply any biographical information.  Charles Laughlin in his
online piece on The Fat Man mentions him (including the nickname
"Mannie") but again provides no biographical data.

Any information about him would be greatly appreciated.

Bill Harker

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:04:57 -0500
From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Say Goodnight Gracie

Questions about the apocryphal nature of the "Say Goodnight, Gracie" bit
aside, you might be pleased to know it did show up as a submitted link
on news aggregator [removed] (It's not news, It's Fark!).  The headline
read something like (I'm remembering here): Burns and Allen concede.
Say Goodnight, Gracie.

I'm sure the average age over at Fark is little younger than here (heck,
I'm on the old side of the curve over there), but Burns and Allen have
become a part of the collective memory.  Even teenagers and people in
their twenties - most of whom have probably never seen or heard an
episode of Burns and Allen - are aware of it.

Now, if there was just some way to get a few cassettes in each of their
hands.

-chris holm

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:59:06 -0500
From: mikennancy2001@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bert the Turtle

I saw the cartoon for him in the documentary "The Atomic Cafe."  Great film
about the bomb and about the ways the '50s culture was changed by the Cold
War.  A little chilling at times, but a must-see for any of you social
historians out there.  (I show it to my high school students!)

Mike in Mountain View

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:00:10 -0500
From: Ben Ohmart <benohmart@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Life of Riley book

To quote Walter Tetley, "Hi!"

I've had in mind for a few years now to do a book on
Life of Riley. The 1st section would be a bio of the
radio series, then bios of the cast members, then info
on the film and TV series. The John Brown talk
recently has reminded me of the project, and also that
I'm really too busy to do it myself. However, if I
opened it up to be a community project, perhaps things
would go quicker. I could function as editor, and if
there are any clever minds here that would like to
tackle a specific part of the show or cast member,
please get in touch. If there are enough responses,
the book can progress!

I already have an introduction from creator Irving
Breecher, as well as his permission. Plus a few other
goodies collected. But this idea has just been sitting
around too long. It's time to do something with it!

Ben Ohmart

Old radio. Old movies. New books.
[removed]

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:00:44 -0500
From: "Barbara Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lightning Jim
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"The Meadow Gold Round-Up" with Francis X, Bushman may have started in
Hollywood, but for a longer period it came from

Chicago with Jim played by an actor with the less than harmonious name of
Jess Pugh (pronounced like something that smells bad).

Despite his name, Jess Pugh had a rich, deep voice, though hardly youthful,
The Radio Lady has a series of 26 complete half-hour stories of "Lightning
Jim" under that name.   Considering how hard the complete half-hour shows of
Tom Mix and Sky King are to find, this is a veritable treasure trove than I
enjoyed a lot.   Of course, Jim was never a quarter-hour serial but always a
half-hour, usually Saturday mornings (a transcribed series).

            I never met Jess Pugh but I did meet Francis X. Bushman in the
sixties, at a personal appearance at a stage show called "How Movies are
Made", performed in old original NBC studios at Sunset and Vince, during a
short period where broadcasting was stopped from there and before the
classic old building was demolished to make way for Home Savings and Loan.
I talked to Mr. Bushman, then about eighty-five, about not his silent movie
work as in "Ben Hur" but about his radio work such as playing the Reverend
Dr. MacAllister on "One Man's Family".   (I did not know then that he had
even tried out for the Lone Ranger, and had played Lightning Jim.)  Bushman
beamed "Why, this young man knows more about my career than I do!"   But
obviously, not all.

            There was a somewhat younger woman there, merely in her sixties,
who had obviously had a crush on Bushman as a girl.   She asked if she could
kiss him.  "No, no, my dear.  My wife would not approve of that!"   He had
to be insistent on the point.

            -- JIM HARMON

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:02:02 -0500
From: <vzeo0hfk@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The blacklist & the b'casting industry &

I will resist the temptation to jump in on the discussion about the blacklist
- having done so extensively years ago. There are many myths and
misunderstandings about the era and the phenomenon of the blacklist

Anyone wishing to get a good sense of how the blacklist affected radio
writers, directors and actors should take a look at chapter 19 in my book,
WORDS AT WAR (Scarecrow Press, 2002). The book and that chapter in particular
is based on my archival research over an eight year period as well as on
interviews of many actors, directors, and radio writers. Among the people I
spoke to were Arthur Miller, Pete Seeger, Himan Brown and an actor who is a
regular at the FOTR meeting in Newark etc.

Howard Blue

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:01:31 -0500
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Dennis Show

A little confusion reigns in regard to a couple of usually trustworthy
sources which appear to be in conflict.

Hickerson's current text lists a series headlined by Dennis Day titled "The
Dennis Show" following Day's earlier successful "A Day in the Life of Dennis
Day."  It appeared more than three years after that feature ended.  "The
Dennis Show" aired at 5:30 [removed] ET Sundays on NBC from Sept. 19, 1954 to
March 20, 1955 says Hickerson.

I've been unable to corroborate that detail in respected sources such as
Dunning, Terrace, Swartz-Reinehr, Buxton-Owen, Sies and two or three more.
That doesn't make it inaccurate.  Sometimes authors miss the obvious.  Was
there such an extension to Day's radio career?  Was it at that time, day and
network?  What was its format if it existed?  I'm vitally interested in
answers to all three questions.

Summers, meanwhile, allows that NBC was broadcasting a series of light
dramas titled "Nutrilite Radio Theater."  He says it aired Sundays at 5:30
[removed] during the 1954-55 season, the very time "The Dennis Show" was
supposedly on the ether.  Summers doesn't list a show by that name at all
that year.

What gives?  Does anyone know?  Thanks for any helpful responses on this
forum or directly to me.  If you have an idea please don't keep it to
yourself.

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:04:44 -0500
From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Christmas Carol at FOTR

I'm just catching up in reading Digests (up to #302) and am very interested
in the "Christmas Carol" thread in which many (including Craig"Paul Temple"
Wichman) have offered so much info on various OTR performances. As a
(almost) charter member of The Dave Warren Players, I would be remiss if I
didn't mention that Dave adapted/directed/acted in a re-creation of DCC at
FOTR about 20 years ago(?).  Starring Ron Lackmann as "Scrooge", Barbara
Watkins as "Mrs. Cratchitt", Carl Amari as "Tim" and others, including me
(as Srooge's nephew), it featured Dave as "Christmas Past"(if memory serves)
and it was a wonderful experience!  Barbara & I were allowed to broadcast it
that Christmas on Don't Touch That Dial at KCSN.
I'm a great DCC fan and I love to watch (or hear) any new versions  as they
come along.  I even say the dialog(as I remember it) with the actors.  I've
enjoyed so many of them that I can almost recite the words as they come
along.  There have been good ones and not so good ones, but all are
interesting.
I must say that the  Barrymore/Campbell  Playhouse is probably my favorite.
BTW, Craig I would love to hear it if Quicksilver has ever done DCC.
Bobb Lynes

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:04:56 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-11 births/deaths

November 11th births

11-11-1872 - Maude Adams - Salt Lake City, Utah - d. 7-17-1953
actor: "Maude Adams"
11-11-1883 - Wilbur C. Tuttle - Missouri - d. 6-6-1969
writer: "Hashkdnife Hartley"
11-11-1885 - George S. Patton - San Gabriel, CA - d. 11-21-1945
maverick general: "These Are Our Men"
11-11-1887 - Roland Young - London, England - d. 6-5-1953
actor: Cosmo Topper "Advs of Topper"; William "Johnny Presents"
11-11-1892 - Al Schacht - NYC - d. 7-14-1984
sportscaster: ( The Clown Prince of Baseball) "Al Schacht's Sports Show"
11-11-1897 - James Goss - Chicago, IL - d. 8-20-1976
actor: Uncle Jim Fairfield "Jack Armstrong, The All-American Boy"
11-11-1898 - Rene Clair - Paris, France - d. 3-15-1981
film director: "This Week Around Paris"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-11-1899 - Harold J. "Pie" Traynor - Framingham, MA - d. 3-16-1972
sportscaster: KQV Pittsburgh
11-11-1899 - Pat O'Brien - Milwaukee, WI - d. 10-15-1983
actor: Dan Carson "Dan Carson"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Family Theatre"
11-11-1901 - F. Van Wyck Mason - Boston, MA - d. 8-28-1978
writer: "The Man from G-2"
11-11-1902 - Webley Edwards - Corvallis, OR - d. 10-5-1977
announcer, host: "Hawaii Calls"
11-11-1904 - Joe Penner - Magybecskereck, Hungary - d. 1-10-1941
comedian: "Joe Penner Program"; "Penners of Park Avenue"
11-11-1906 - Harry Holcomb - Malta, OH - d. 9-15-1987
director, narrator: "Curtain Time; "Dr. [removed], The Mental Banker";
"Moon River"
11-11-1909 - Rad Robinson - Bountiful, UT - d. 9-20-1988
singer: (Member of the King's Men) "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "King's
Men"
11-11-1909 - Robert Ryan - Chicago, IL - d. 7-11-1973
actor: "Document A/777"; "Hollywood Star Playhouse"; "Suspense"
11-11-1911 - Patric Knowles - Horsforth, Yorkshire, England - d.
12-23-1995
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-11-1915 - William Proxmire - Lake Forest, IL - d. 12-15-2005
[removed] senator: "Meet the Press"
11-11-1917 - Robert J. Shaw - Wisconsin - d. 3-30-1996
writer: "Mr. District Attorney"; "Advs. of Christopher Wells"
11-11-1918 - Stubby Kaye - NYC - d. 12-14-1997
comic, singer, actor: "The Heartbeat of Broadway"
11-11-1920 - Ruth Brooks - Omaha, NE
writer: "The Billie Burke Show"
11-11-1922 - Kurt Vonnegut - Indianapolis, IN
writer: "Dimension X"
11-11-1925 - Jonathan Winters - Dayton, OH
comedian: "Monitor"
11-11-1930 - Hank Garland - Cowpens, SC - d. 12-27-2004
guitarist: "Jim Reeves Show"; "Country Music Time"; "Country Style
[removed]"
11-11-1939 - Denise Alexander - NYC
actor: Francie Nolan "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn"; Debbie Sharp "Big Guy"

November 11th deaths

01-27-1885 - Jerome Kern - NYC - d. 11-11-1945
composer: "Railroad Hour"; "Show Boat"
02-25-1925 - Lisa Kirk - Charleroi, PA - d. 11-11-1990
vocalist: "The Henry Morgan Show"
03-22-1886 - Thomas J. Cowan - Newark, NJ - d. 11-11-1969
announcer: First voice heard over WJZ
03-29-1912 - Fred Brady - NYC - d. 11-11-1961
actor: Himself "The Fred Brady Show"
04-10-1885 - Sigmund Spaeth - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-11-1965
commentator: "Tune Detective"; "Fun in Print"
04-16-1917 - Jean Holloway - d. 11-11-1989
writer: "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Mayor of the Town"; "Mr. President"
05-10-1894 - Dimitri Tiomkin - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 11-11-1979
composer, conductor: "Last Man Out"; "1947 March of Dimes Campaign"
05-26-1912 - Barbara Lee - Denver, CO - d. 11-11-1986
actor: "Big Sister"; "Valiant Lady"; "Our Gal Sunday"
07-12-1920 - Keith Andes - Ocean City, NJ - d. 11-11-2005
actor: "Sears Radio Theatre"
07-26-1914 - Erskine Hawkins - Birmingham, AL - d. 11-11-1992
bandleader: "Apollo Concerts"; "Big Band Themes on the Air"
07-31-1912 - Irv Kupcinet - Chicago, IL - d. 11-11-2003
sportscaster: WGN Chicago "Chicago Bears"
08-08- 1900 - Victor Young - Chicago, IL - d. 11-11-1956
conductor, composer: "Shell Chateau"; "Old Gold Don Ameche Show
08-29-1899 - George V. Denny, Jr. - Washington, [removed] - d. 11-11-1959
moderator: "America's Town Meeting of the Air"
09-24-1919 - Dayton Allen - NYC - d. 11-11-2004
actor: Phineas T. Bluster/Flubadub "Howdy Doody"; "Words at War"
10-12-1905 - Jane Ace - Kansas City, MO - d. 11-11-1974
comedian: "Easy Aces"; "Jane Ace, Disc Jockey"
10-19-1903 - Robert Hardy Andrews - Effingham, KS - d. 11-11-1976
writer: "Skippy"; "Jack Armstrong"; "Just Plain Bill"
12-25-1907 - Cab Calloway - Rochester, NY - d. 11-11-1994
bandleader: "Quizzical"
12-28-1932 - Pamela Duncan - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-11-2005
actor: "Dangerous Assignment"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:55:32 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio store

I suppose that if you're a fan of old-time radio, you'd have to buy an 
old-time radio somewhere or other.  I would recommend the firm shown here, 
if the link works:

[removed]

It is Hannah's furniture store, in Shawnee, Ohio.  I'm not entirely certain 
if this is a recent photograph, but I'm sure that they'd be glad to supply 
you with anything you might need.

Shawnee, Ohio was one of our Appalachian coal towns, one of the few that 
still remain relatively intact after a coal panic in 1925 wiped out all of 
them that the floods did not.  The website is devoted to the memory of these 
towns--dozens of them, all in a 50-mile-square area.  Most lasted for no 
longer than fifty years, and when you go to look for one, all you'll find is 
forests, foundations, and perhaps the spookiest abandoned railroad tunnels 
imaginable.  But there was great prosperity there while it lasted, clearly 
enough to support a fancy radio store.  I have no date for this photograph; 
probably nobody else does, either.

M Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
[removed]

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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:32:10 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  McCarthyism

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:18:40 -0500
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];

Time and declassified Soviet documents have since proved that there
were indeed communist spies on our nation's payroll.

McCarthy was on the verge of losing his bid for re-election when he
started his supposed hunt for Communists.  He always claimed to have
a list of names, and the number of people on the list kept changing,
but he never revealed any and never uncovered a single Communist.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:59:07 -0500
From: Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Ishkabibble and Poets on OTR

Sully Mason was a Kay Kyser vocalist and Ish Kabibble (real name
Merwyn Bogue) was of course Kyser's longtime comedian. His 1989
autobiography--oddly enough titled "Ish Kabibble"--is a first-rate
account of the Kyser band.

Jordan R. Young

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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:00:31 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: mis-quotes

 > the worst case of the misquote i caught a few weeks ago on the game
 > show network, which reruns "who wants to be a millionaire?" every night.

While not directly otr-related, I always liked James Cagney's response
when asked about his oft-mis-quoted "You dirty rat"

Cagney said, I never said "You dirty rat!"  My line was "Judy, Judy, Judy"

Jim Widner

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