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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 371


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Club Fees Revisited
	  Cohen and the Telephone
	 Frontier Gentleman partial log
	 Re:Mr. Kitzel
	 Cassette Source

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:43:23 -0500
From: aa993@[removed] (Christopher L. Tumber)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Club Fees Revisited
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Just got my NARA membership info. Dues are $20US per year, regardless of 
where you are this means SPERDVAC *is* the only club (of the biggies [RHAC, 
NARA, SPERDVAC] anyhow) which charges foreign members extra for membership.
 
However, NARA does not list actual fees either, except to note that "you 
may borrow, for a very small fee, about .60 per tape, programs to listen 
to". As well, an order form for an "Early Membership Renewal Special" of 
"45 Cassettes for $[removed]" (Which is $.66 per tape. If the normal price IS 
$.60 per tape this isn't much of a special!) is included attached to sample 
catalog pages.
 
So, can anyone list the regular fees for NARA and SPERDVAC rentals as well as 
any surcharges (if any) for non-residents? (Richard Novak was kind enough 
to post the fees for SPERDVAC reels, but, I use cassettes and would like 
more complete info).
 
I'm interested in joining NARA, but would like the "bottom line" first. As 
well, while I'm not keen on joining SPERDVAC for reasons outlined previously 
in this thread, who [removed] RHAC is very good, but, there are some large 
holes in their collection so it's likely I'll be joining at least one 
or the other (of NARA/SPERDVAC) if not both to supplement.
 
I should note that given the lack of rental fee information provided by both 
NARA and SPERDVAC, if I didn't have the resource provided by the net to 
hopefully obtain this information, there's no way I would join either. This 
oversight really needs to change.

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Date:     Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:47 CST
From: ZENCHC@[removed] (Chris Zenchenko, 7-3543)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:  Cohen and the Telephone
Message-Id: <m0tDCjV-000Y4OC@[removed]>

Yes there were several records featuring Cohen but they were from the
mid teens.  They are all old mechanical recordings.  I know of at least
six different records.  I would have to check my shelves but I seem to
recall that there were also some other recordings featuring the same
people doing country hick type routines.  Uncle Josh and the
automobile, telephone, whatever.
There is no question that these early comedy records played an important
part in the development of early comedy on the radio.  Listen to the
first Jack Benny program for Canada Dry, or the Two Black Crows, or Sam
and Henry, the list goes on.
If I get a chance I will check my collection for some firm titles for
some of these Cohen and other comedy recordings of the teens and early
20s.
Here are two titles from the database I have on hand at this moment.
2-13 Cal Stewart                                                        144
     Uncle Josh Buys an Automobile
     Victor                   copies   1
2-14 Cal Stewart and Byron G. Harlan                                    143
     The Village Gossips
     Victor                   copies   1

This is output directly from my working database so don't worry about numbers,
but at least we have two names.


73 from WB9RSQ

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:46:47 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Frontier Gentleman partial log
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

                      F R O N T I E R   G E N T L E M A N
                      ---------------   -----------------
 
                                      1958
 
     First Show: 02-02-58                              Last Show: ??-??-??
     Number Shows: 40                              Audition Show: not known
 
 
     Show Description:
 
     FRONTIER GENTLEMAN was a Western that viewed the Wild West through
     the eyes of a British correspondent from the London Times.  That 
     reporter was [removed] Kendle, also known as Britt Kendle, who, besides 
     being a reporter, was a a veteran of the British army.  He was sent 
     to America to write about the people who lived in the Wild West.  He 
     was quite adept with fist, gun and knife and was smart enough to 
     know when to use them.  Britt was played by John Dehner , who is 
     probably better known as Paladin in the radio version of HAVE GUN, 
     WILL TRAVEL. 
 
     The show was directed by Tony Ellis who also wrote for GUNSMOKE.  It
     displayed mature, well written plots.  All the acting was very good, 
     especially by Mr. Dehner.  
 
     Alas, radio's Golden Age was in it's twilight and new shows had to
     face stiff competition from TV.  FRONTIER GENTLEMAN lasted less than 
     a year and only 40 episodes were produced. 
 
 
     List Comments:
 
     For this first pass, I've left all data found in the log, to be 
     corrected as more info is found.  
 
     As with some other shows, there is significent variation in titles.  
     Quite often, the catalogs had titles but no date.  Where titles were
     similar, alternate titles are listed below the first title found.
     Those titles that could not be matched to another or had no date were
     placed at the end of the list.
 
     Most shows with broadcast dates had dates that fell on a Sunday. Those 
     dates that don't will be followed by a question mark.  
 
 
     List:
 
         Date      Num  Title                                 Src Key
         --------  ---  ------------------------------------  ---------
         02-02-58    1  The Shelton Brothers                  1234 67
         02-09-58       Charlie Meeker                        1234 67
         02-16-58       Honky Tonkers                         1234567
         02-19-58?      Sitting Bull                               6
         02-21-58?      Little Big Horn                            6
         02-23-58       Kendall's Last Stand                  12345 7
         03-02-58       The Lost Mine                               234  7
         03-09-58       Claim Jumpers                               234567
         03-16-58       Big Sam For Governor                        7
         03-23-58       The Actress                               23456
         03-30-58       Gentle Virtue                           34 67
         04-06-58       Powder River Kid                        34 67
         04-13-58       The Trial                             1234567
         04-20-58       Aces and Eights                         3456
         04-27-58       Random Notes                             4 6
         05-04-58       Daddy Buck Horton                     12 4 67
         05-11-58       Cannibal                              12 4 67
         05-18-58       Advice to the Lovelorn                12 4567
         05-25-58       Rescue                                12 4
                        Cowboy                                      7
                        Slim                                       6
         06-01-58       School Marm                           12 4 
                        School Days                                67
         06-08-58       Beeljoy's Prisoner                    12 4 67
         06-15-58       The Well                              12 4 67
         06-22-58       ?????
         06-29-58       Gambling Lady                         12 4 67
         07-06-58       Education of Kid Yancy                12 4 67
         07-13-58       Justice of the Peace                  12 4 67
         07-20-58       Mighty Mouse, Sheriff Harper          12 4 
                        Mighty Mouse Jessie James                  6
                        Mighty Mouse                                7
         07-27-58       Mighty Tired                          12 4
                        Mighty Tired Jessie James                  6
         08-03-58       Nebraska Jack                         12 4 6
         08-10-58       Catman                                12 4 6
         08-17-58       Wonder Man                            12 4 6
         08-24-58       Belle Siddon's Encore                 12 4 6
         08-31-58       Belle Siddon Strikes Back             12 4 6
         09-07-58       The Last of Belle Siddon              12 4 6
         09-14-58       Horse for Kendall                     12 4 
                        Kendall Buys a Horse                       6
         09-21-58       Indian Lover                          12 4 6
         09-28-58       Golddigger                            12 4 6
         10-05-58       Claim Jumpers                         12 4
                        Librarian                                  6
         10-12-58       Aces & Eights                         12 456
         10-19-58       Preacher                              12 4 6
         10-26-58       Rainmaker                             12 4
         11-02-58       Nasty People                          12 4
                        Deadly Homesters                           6
         11-09-58       Holiday                               12 4
                        A Living Man's Funeral                     6
         11-16-58       Random Notes                               2 4 6
 
         ??-??-??       Madam Verdi in Cheyenne               1
         ??-??-??       Madam Verdi in Deadwood               1
         ??-??-??       Madam Verde's Gambling House              5 7
         ??-??-??       Montan Gold                           1
         ??-??-??       Wild Bill Bascombe                    1
         ??-??-??       Cheyene Sage                          1
         ??-??-??       New Horse                             1
         ??-??-??       Stagecoach                                5 7
         ??-??-??       Disaster In Montana                       5
         ??-??-??       Shelter For The Night                     5
         ??-??-??       Adventure In Montana                      5
         ??-??-??       Actress is Shot                             7
         ??-??-??       Dead Man's Hand                             7
         ??-??-??       Defense For McCream                         7
         ??-??-??       [removed] Becomes a Surgeon                      7
         ??-??-??       Three Greedy Prospectors                    7
         ??-??-??       Tom Hart Seeks Revenge                      7
         ??-??-??       Woman Held By Indians                       7
 
 
     Information Sources:
 
     The information above was obtained from the following OTR vendor
     and club catalogs.  Contact them directly for more information.
 
         Key  Source
         ---  ----------------------------------------------------------
          1   North American Radio Archives (NARA), 134 Vincewood Dr., 
              Nicolasville, KY 40356.
          2   Edward J. Carr, 216 Shaner Street, Boyertown, PA 19512.
          3   Ken Mills, Nostalgia Recordings, 907 Maple Ave., 
              Ridgefield, NJ 07657.
          4   Steve Kelez, Radio Showcase, [removed] Box 4357, Santa Rosa, 
              CA 95402
          5   Society for the Preservation of Entertainment Radio, 
              Variety And Comedy (SPERDVAC), PO Box 7177, Van Nuys, CA 
              91409-7177
          6   Radio Historical Association of Colorado, [removed] Box 1908, 
              Englewood, CO 80150
          7   Erstwhile Radio, [removed] Box 2284, Peabody, MA 01960
 
 
     Although I have had favorable dealings with some of the above, to be 
     fair to all, this is not an endorsement of them. I receive nothing 
     by mentioning them.
 
 
     Last Update: 11-07-95
 
 
     Although I retain copyright, this log may be freely copied provided 
     that the text is unchanged.  Please share it with fellow OTR lovers.
 
     I would greatly appreciate any error corrections or additional
     information. Please send them to: Frank Passage, 109 Elmwood Road, 
     Verona, NJ 07044 or via e-mail to passage@[removed]
 

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:25:34 -0500
From: Joelsiegel@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Mr. Kitzel
Message-ID: <951108112529_101196395@[removed]>

Kitzel is Yiddish for "tickle."
Cohen on the Telephone pre-dates the 30's by a lot. A turn-of-the century
vaudeville routine, recorded early in this century.
Dialect humor was a vaudeville mainstay which easily made the transition to
radio. We were a very different country then. Irish dialects, Italian
accents, Yiddish and German (called "Dutch" for "Deutsch") dialects were
common and were commonly made fun of. Hillbilly English and rural
African-American dialects were also common. Only hillbilly dialects are still
politically if not correct, than at least possible. Lum and Abner, the
Beverly Hillbillies, etc.
Weber and Fields were probably the most famous of the dialect comics.
American English has become the international language in part because it has
grown -- and has not been afraid to grow -- using all these influences.
Pasta, piano (Italian), yam, banjo (West African), "glitch" is one of
hundreds of Yiddish words that have become American English.
The downside -- the dialect speaking characters were too easy to turn into
caricatures -- cartoons. In Erik Barnouw's history of radio he quotes an
African-American poet remembering listening to Amos and Andy on the radio. He
laughed, he reminisces, "until I was old enough to understand these people
were supposed to be us." 

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:23:32 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Source
Message-ID: <951108142315_82313098@[removed]>

Several Digest subscribers have either asked about or suggested cassette
sources.  Here's one you may not know about.  I've used them for some time
and have had good success.  It's Cam Audio, Inc., 2210 Executive Drive,
Garland, TX 75041.  Their Order Desk # is 800-527-3458 and their 24-hour Fax
# is (214) 271-1555.  Their Fall-Winter catalog just came out and they have a
broad array of products.  I use their Premium PC-62 cassettes that come in 7
different lengths, all the way to PC 122s.  The 62s range in price from
81-cents to 48-cents, depending on the number ordered.  I usually get 500 at
a time and the cost is only 54-cents each.  They have a Duplicators Premium
tape cassette as well and also exact lengths and custom lengths.  Rather than
giving you all the details, I suggest you contact them for a catalog.
 Cassette boxes are also available.  Their special "poly" boxes are 20-cents
each, but if you order 500, the price drops to only 8-cents apiece.  I use
the rigid hard plastic Norelco box and a case of 250 brings them in at
14-cents each.  That's the standard one with clear top and black bottom.
 They also handle reel-to-reel tape and that includes their number 631, which
is 1/4 inch, 1200 feet, 7-inch reel, [removed] mil thickness, low noise.  Order 20
or more and they're $[removed] each.  The catalog lists lots of other useful
items.

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