Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #235
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 7/23/2001 12:51 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 235
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     Re: geography by speech pattern      ["Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed]]
     Heroes and Superheroes               ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     Did they or didn't they?             [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
     A CAC Lady                           [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
     Two O'Clock Eastern War Time         [leemunsick@[removed]           ]
     Jack Benny for Governor?             [Ehutchison@[removed]                 ]
     Magic Island missing shows??         [Jack Harris <jack@[removed]]
     Jan Miner, John Dehner & ?           ["Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl]
     Mississississippi  River             ["Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@charter-]
     Mary Jane Higby                      [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
     Jennifer Jones - OTR Digest V01 #234 [Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@telu]
     A Possible Why CAC Solution          [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
     Scarce favorites?                    [dabac@[removed]                    ]
     Jennifer Jones                       ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
     walter winchell                      ["Norm Wyers" <nwyers@[removed];    ]
     Storing & listening to MP3 [removed]  ["James G. DuPuy" <dupuy@[removed]]
     Ave Maria Hour                       [Paulurbahn@[removed]                 ]
     OTR had few superheroes, thank God.  [John Mayer <mayer@[removed];        ]
     radio character names - Jack Benny P ["Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];  ]
     OTR community                        [Ryan Ellett <ryanellett@[removed]; ]
     Johnny Dollar                        ["Albert P. Cohen" <apcohen@intercom]
     Fred Allen Remembered                [Kubelski@[removed]                   ]
     Amos and Andy - Self-serve gas       ["Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];  ]
     My Super Hero                        [Mike Ray <MRay@[removed];    ]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:19:15 -0400
    From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: geography by speech pattern

    Elliott (?) Sanger wrote a book, Rebel in Radio - The WQXR Story, or title
    similar. In it he described a program the station aired in the general
    period between 1936 and appr. 1955. The book, with the rest, are packed so
    I'll do my best to relate what I remember.

    The program was along the lines of Tune Detective. The host was a linguist
    and by listening to persons say words like "Mary-Merry-Mary", could many
    times tell where they from, sometimes even whether they lived east or west
    of (again, I think) Central Park.

    Mr. Sanger was vice-president and co-founder of the WQXR stations; also
    served I believe in one or more positions as well. The book was written
    after his retirement, ca. 1965, and chronicled the station's early days
    through purchase by the [removed], the 50's and early 60's. It's very
    interesting and insightful, to use two very overworked terms.

    Don't know if this is what you're looking for but it immediately sounded the
    Conelrad tones when I read your post.

     Macandrew

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:17:49 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Heroes and Superheroes

    Jer51473 suggests that when talking about OTR superheroes, notes,

>     1) he/she must have abnormal powers or abilities <snip> they all do
>     super things  <snip> 2) super has to mean some sort of costume or
>     disguise that in real life no one would wear as a daily garb.

    Now I agree with 1) but not 2).  To take an example of a genuine OTR
    superhero, Chandu, the Magician, he wore no special costume, just
    ordinary clothes.  (For that matter, outside of the 1940s OTR venue, so
    did Ibis the Invincible, though he did wear an East Indian turban, which,
    presumably Frank Chandler didn't.)    In one episode, after winning a
    rough-and-tumble fight against a couple of baddies, Chandler said, "Just
    because a man is a magician doesn't mean he's not a man."

>     3) jack armstrong, hop harrigan, dick tracy, don winslow, tom mix, roy
>     and gene, hoppy, etc. are heroes, not super heroes.

    Amen!!  There's been an inflation in our language, but let's try to be
    honest.  While The Lone Ranger borders on the mythic, he's still human.
    As mentioned, the title character in my "special" show, Captain Midnight,
    was a hero, but nothing more.  The point of a hero, as opposed to a
    superhero, is that no matter how talented, he or she would have to cope
    as other humans would.  Nick Carter was a master detective, not a super
    detective.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:25 -0400
    From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Did they or didn't they?

    The restored old-time movie palace Kentucky Theatre in Lexington shows
    midnight cult films.  This weekend is the fairly recent "Chasing Amy"
    from 1997.  The Lexington Herald Leader published this capsule review:
    "Romantic comedy about people who write comic books for a living and
    whose most passionate conversations can center on the sex lives of
    Archie and Jughead."

    How about it, Hal?  Do you and/or Bob Hastings have any secrets to tell
    us?  Hi'ya Archikins!  What's the REAL inside info on Betty and
    Veronica. Rosemary Rice have any comments?

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:21:47 -0400
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A CAC Lady

    conradab@[removed] says:

    Another lady "Calling All Cars" player.

    [removed]
    --
    conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
       From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
         Encino, California.

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:18:39 -0400
    From: leemunsick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Two O'Clock Eastern War Time

    I'd like to join the off-mike comments about John Dunning's book.  It's
    fun, there's some great stuff in it about radio, and well worth a
    read.  Warning:  it's long, and if you're like me, you won't want to try to
    read it all in one very long sitting!

    I had two problems with the book, both minor:

    The cover artwork clearly shows (and written references inside describe)
    one very large stick.
    Yet at one point Mr. Dunning discusses the station's directional pattern
    beaming up the New Jersey coast into New York City.  How can this be?

    Secondly, on the same cover artwork is seen what to me looks clearly like a
    foreign automobile, perhaps German, which might be a strange juxtaposition
    with the WWII story line.  [removed] didn't want to give it away!  This does
    not match the story line.  Perhaps both problems stem from the artist who
    made the cover painting.

    Perhaps Mr. Dunning is reading this?  I'd love his comments.  And thanks
    for a great yarn!

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: I don't believe Mr. Dunning owns a computer, let alone
    spends time on-line. Folks with contrary information, please give!  --cfs3]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:46 -0400
    From: Ehutchison@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Benny for Governor?

    A. J. Ross asked about the possible meaning of a reference on the Jack Benny
    Show in which Jack gets a laugh by saying someone wanted him to run for
    Governor of Georgia.

    I can't be sure, but I believe there was once an especially interesting
    gubernatorial election in Georgia in which it became public knowledge that
    one of the candidates was a former mental patient.  At that time the stigma
    attaching to mental illness was very great and this news was expected to mean
    a quick end to anyone's candidacy.

    It also happens that in that day, a lunacy hearing was required for
    commitment and release was obtained by being examined by a board that would
    certify that the individual was now "sane."  In a clever tactic, the
    candidate with the history of institutionalization began running
    advertisements declaring--quite truthfully--that he was the only candidate
    for Governor who had been "certified sane."

    As it is well established that you can fool all of the people at least some
    of the time, it is quite possible that this strategy of making lemonade  from
    lemons may have worked.  It is possible, too, that in this context a
    suggestion that Jack Benny (or anyone) run for Governor of Georgia, would
    imply that their sanity--or lack thereof--would not be a handicap.

    Ed Hutchison
    Jackson, MS

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:39 -0400
    From: Jack Harris <jack@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Magic Island missing shows??

    Ian I still can't figure out about the missing two episodes. There should
    be 130 as that would make sense for a run. However I have listened to them
    closely (I thought) and can't figure out what is missing. Like any good
    serial they always tell you what happened last time and it always is what
    happened last time. One dealer claimed he had all 130 but no one seems to
    know what two are missing. I am going to listen to the two you say are
    missing. (the few episodes before and after and see if they are. It would
    be nice to know. I would be more than happy to buy the missing two.

    Jack Harris

    for dive videos, computers and astronomy
    visit [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:34 -0400
    From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jan Miner, John Dehner & ?

    I don't think anyone has mentioned that
    Jan Miner has also appeared on stage.
    It's been quite a few years, and it was
    after Jan became known as "Madge" in
    TV commercials, but I saw her in a
    stage production by the St. Louis Rep.
    Theater.

    I also want to mention that, sometime
    during the years 1951-53, I was having
    lunch in a Hollywood restaurant and saw
    John Dehner, Larry Dobkin and another
    man walk in.  The third man was not Sam
    Edwards, since I had seen him before in
    a radio show.  I have often wondered if
    that third man might have been Harry
    Bartell, whose face is unknown to me.  I
    read, in this digest, that he appeared on
    TVs "Gunsmoke."  I wonder if anyone
    knows some specific episode, or some
    specific movie, that Mr. Bartell was in.
    Perhaps Mr. Bartell could help me out
    here.

    Harry Machin Jr.
    harbev5@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:21:48 -0400
    From: "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mississississippi  River

    	Hi Anybody,
        The one exception on the boundries (East and West) at the Mississippi
    River was and is [removed] radio in St. Louis which is the oldest station in St.
    Louis (1921) and is still going strong.
         West of "the" river  was given  "K"in front of it's call letters and "W"
    East of "the" river.
    					Till Next Time,
    					Harold

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:36 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
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    Subject:  Mary Jane Higby

    Glen Schroeder recalls Mary Jane Higby's memoirs which he believes were
    published in the 1970s.  Actually they surfaced originally in 1966.

    And he asks if she is still with us.  Regretfully, Ms. Higby, one of soap
    opera's most memorable and beloved actresses, died Feb. 1, 1986 in New
    York City.  This queen of the audio heroines is best recalled for her
    portrayal of Joan Field Davis in the durable When a Girl Marries.  She
    also turned up as villainess Cynthia Carter Swanson Whitney on The
    Romance of Helen Trent and in lots of other running parts, including most
    of daytime's fare.

    She was inspiration to me in preparing The Great Radio Soap Operas
    (McFarland, 1999) for I knew that no work beyond her own 1966
    autobiography had been produced limited to that aural genre.  And none
    offered detailed data from a wide spectrum of the washboard weepers so I
    was able to feature 31 of the most prominent from a list of 205 series.
    Ms. Higby was helpful to me in 1969 by providing some material that
    eventually appeared in this volume.  I attempted to "do her justice" by
    including several behind-the-scenes anecdotes from her experiences and a
    photo of this luminary when the book finally took shape.

    She was married in 1945 to another of daytime radio's most auspicious
    actors, Guy Sorel, who turned up in dramatic runs on Backstage Wife
    (where he was Larry Noble during the final 8 years of that run), and in
    roles on Just Plain Bill and Road of Life as well as a lot of nighttime
    radio theater.

    Jim Cox

    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:31 -0400
    From: otrbuff@[removed]
    Subject: Unidentified subject!

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:20:12 -0400
    From: Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jennifer Jones - OTR Digest V01 #234

    The following sites should profide useful info on Jennifer Jones - At
    least I can hope so! ===> ELMER
    - -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Cecil B. DeMille - Lux Radio Theater Listing of DeMille films.
    URL: [removed]

    Yahoo! Entertainment>Actors and Actresses>
    Help - More Yahoos Home > Entertainment > Actors and Actresses > J All
    sites UK sites only Ireland sites only This category only advanced
    search [ A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P
    | Q | R | S | T |
    URL: [removed].

    Pseudonyms of famous people
    URL: [removed]...

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:43 -0400
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A Possible Why CAC Solution

    Sharing a possible solution to a long time "why" of mine.
    I've never worked "Calling All Cars" and now I may know
    the reason. Bobby!  *Grin*

    [removed]

    --
    conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
       From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
         Encino, California.

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:27 -0400
    From: dabac@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Scarce favorites?

    I was wondering - what are some of the rarer series of once popular otr
    shows?  Dan

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:28:06 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jennifer Jones

    Someone asked about whether actress Jennifer Jones did any radio.
    I only know of two,

    Philco Radio Hall of Fame  (2/20/44)  with Charles Bickford,
           Reed Hadley, Jerry Lester, and Helen OíConnell.
           On this show, Jones and Bickford sing ́Song of Bernadette.î
    The Academy Awards  (3/2/44)  Jones is among dozens of actors who
           appeared on the radio ceremony, with Jack Benny as [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:51 -0400
    From: "Norm Wyers" <nwyers@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  walter winchell

    My great-grandmother was paid a tribute by Walter Winchell sometime around
    July 29, 1940, her final birthday, or March 29, 1941, the day she died.  I
    am attempting to locate the manuscript so that I can quote it in a book I am
    writing about her son.  Her name was Pauline Tysen Wurdinger.

    Thanks.

    Norm Wyers
    nwyers@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:35 -0400
    From: "James G. DuPuy" <dupuy@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Storing & listening to MP3 [removed]

    Hi Guys & Gals!

    Here we go again about Cds/magnetic media and mini disks.

> >     From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
> >     Subject:  Trouble hearing mp3 file

> >     completely invalid because the trader forgot to make
> >     sure that the letters ".mp3" followed the show title. The format was

>     Greg, copy those programs to your hard drive and then rename them, adding

    the

>     .mp3 suffix.  You can then play them from the hard drive.

    I would advise just burning a new cd with the 2 files corrected first.  THEN
    try the following:

>     If the disc is still open he can import the last session, change the
>     filenames on those files (ie, tack on the .mp3 extension) and burn the
>     session.  The filename will be updated and the (corrected) CD remains
>     usable and copyable for future trades.

    Reason being that if something goes wrong, it is possible to make the disk
    unusable.  It's not likely, especially if
    the disk was being repaired from the original recorder, but if your computer
    crashes or "locks" up (pretty much the same difference) or there is a power
    "glitch" or some such happens while you are doing this, you run the risk of
    not being able to recover the disk.  I have had this happen.  Luckily, I had
    the original files still on a zip disk that time.  (used zip disks before I
    got a cd burner) That is also the reason I COPY files to cds and not MOVE
    them.  CDs are normally very reliable, but you do get bad ones on occasion.
    Actually, almost no media is a perfect solution.  the old LPs were actually
    very reliable as long as you keep them in good condition and use a turntable
    with a good cartridge and stylus. (Replace the stylus before it starts
    wrecking your albums!)  I still remember my dads old 78 player that used
    steel needles!  It probably had 28+ grams of pressure on the groove!  No
    wonder those records got noisy real fast!  I have an old AR (Acoustic
    Research) turntable with an Ortifone (hope I am spelling it right) cartridge
    that tracks at under a gram now.  I admit though that I have used it very
    little over the past 10 years.

    MP3 is a great format as long as you don't try to record at too low a bit
    rate.  I use 128 for music and never below 32 for OTR.  (more like 48 to 64)
    I also store to CDs but I COPY first, then listen to the CD file. THEN
    delete from the HD.  Has saved me a few times.  Now I archive to CDs but
    listen from my Hip Zip player.  It is a lot smaller that a CD player, and
    uses the Click (now pocket zip) disks.  They seem to be very reliable and
    the unit can save and load any file as well so I keep all my work files
    (ASCII files for our controllers) on a couple of the disks so it is great to
    just plug it in the USB, dump a file or so and take it with me home or to
    work or to customers.  The audio quality is excellent!  I use it in the car
    all the time with a cassette adaptor.  The only down side is that you can't
    change the battery.  It has a built in Lithium Ion.  On the plus side, it
    recharges very fast and a charge lasts all day (continuous playing!) I have
    a spare AC unit at work so I can always charge it.  It now supports audible
    format now too.  It's small enough to pop in your pocket and bouncing does
    not bother it near as much as a CD player.  Never had it "skip" even on
    really long stretches of horrible pot-holed roads!  That would be well
    beyond the usual 30 to 40 seconds of memory on the average CD player.  (LOTS
    of pot holes in Ohio!)  I do hear that the Rio Volt is a great unit.  I just
    find that it would be way to big to fit a pocket.  The HipZip also has a 12
    step Treble & 12 step Bass control in addition to the usual
    "Rock/flat/classical/jazz" setting you usually see.  I really like that.
    Enough plugging, Great OTR to everyone!

    I don't suffer from insanity, I create and enjoy every minute of it!
    Mitsy, my yorkie dog says; "I'm so darn cute even I can't stand it!"

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:34 -0400
    From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ave Maria Hour

    There is a web site for the program, apparently it is back on the air in
    limited markets.
    Here is the site:
    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:32 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR had few superheroes, thank God.

    Jer51473@[removed] suggests that, by definition, a superhero must have "1)
    abnormal powers or abilities, but not necessarily impossible or
    [removed] and 2) super has to mean some sort of costume or disguise
    that in real life no one would wear as a daily garb."

    Then, I guess, the Lone Ranger would qualify as a Superhero - shooting a
    gun out of the moving hand of an outlaw riding a horse, while mounted
    himself on Silver, borders on being a superpower, and he wore that mask.
    The Shadow, on the other hand, would not because, although he meets the
    first qualification (on radio if not in the pulps), his accessories, a
    slouch coat and opera cape, were not unheard of in his day, although the
    popularity of such garments was certainly waning.

    The Spirit of the comic pages would barely qualify as a superhero,
    purely on the basis of his domino mask and his extraordinary ability to
    take a beating and bounce back. Tarzan might have been a superhero,
    since his garb was unusual for an English nobleman, albeit practical for
    the climate, and his abilities certainly exceeded those of normal men.

    Doc Savage wore no costume (unless you count the torn broadcloth shirt
    he wore on all the Bama covers), but he did have that unusual bronze
    skin. (BTW, have you ever noticed how many elements of the Superman
    comics were derived from Doc Savage? "The Man of Steel" from "The Man of
    Bronze," the Fortress of Solitude, etcetera. Superman was sort of an
    amalgam of DS and a reverse John Carter). Not sure if Doc Savage was on
    OTR, but there are some enjoyable NTR shows of his adventures.

    Actually, by any definition, there were not a lot of superheroes on OTR,
    and thank God for that. As one who once aspired to be a comic book
    artist, did his thesis on comic books, and once narrated and engineered
    the world's first, I am confidant, radio comic book review, I must say
    that a plague of superheroes has all but destroyed comics as an art
    form. Where there used to be a wide variety of genres including
    detective, crime (not the same), horror, science-fiction, comedy,
    romance, funny animals, adventure, pirates, war and a host of others,
    today there is little but sophomoric superheroes and, worse yet, many of
    them are developing the silly Walter Keane eyes of anime and manga.
    Apparently, comics are following the decline of popular music, which
    long ago abandoned meaningful lyrics and has managed to get melody down
    to the single note of "Who Let the Dogs Out?"

    Try going into a comic specialty shop today and asking if they have any
    comics that don't feature superheroes and note the quizzical stare you
    get from the proprietor; in most, comic book and superhero are taken to
    be near synonyms. Many comics shopkeepers with claims of knowledge of
    their field have never even heard of EC Comics. A form of entertainment
    which has become a serious creative endeavor in Europe is, in the
    states, reduced to considerations of whether The Submariner could beat
    up Aquaman. A single Carl Barks Uncle Scrooge story contained more
    research, character development, plot twists and narrative drive than a
    whole ten-part X-Men serial adventure.

    Of course, much of this resulted from the crippling of the medium by the
    Comics Code, largely at the hands of Mr. Goldwater of Archie comics (no
    reflection on the radio show, Hal!). Again, thank God there were few
    superheroes on radio, even in children's programming. I prefer to think
    not, but, conceivably, if radio adventure drama had survived, it would
    have deteriorated as comic books have. If so, we should be grateful that
    it was allowed to die a dignified death.

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:30 -0400
    From: "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  radio character names - Jack Benny Program

    Since I've noticed an interest in radio character names I'd like to throw in
    my two-cents worth and ask a question to boot.
    I've noticed that almost everyone on the Jack Benny Program worked under an
    alias. By this I mean although Jack was called Jack Benny on the show, he
    clearly wasn't actually playing himself. He was playing a character named
    Jack Benny which was nothing like the real man. Mary Livingstone (although
    she later took on the name in real life) originally was not named Mary
    Livingstone. That was a character created specifically for the show (and to
    give her a part I assume).
    We all know Rochester's real name was Anderson and even Dennis Day was born
    with another name (although it slips my memory at the moment. I remember
    hearing an interview with one of the writers and Phil Harris who pointed out
    that the name Dennis Day was created for the show and over the years, like
    Mary, it stuck and the performer came to "become" Dennis Day since that was
    all his fans referred to him as).
    Now, my question is: I assume Don Wilson never worked under a psuedonym, but
    I could be wrong. Anybody have anything on this?

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:28 -0400
    From: Ryan Ellett <ryanellett@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR community

    Does anyone have an educated guess as to the size of
    the OTR collecting/listening community? Swartz and
    Reinehr estimate it at 1,500 in "Handbook of Old-Time
    Radio". But that was written in 1993, before the
    Internet had really taken off. Surely that number has
    grown since then. Any insights?
    Ryan

    Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger
    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:33:19 -0400
    From: "Albert P. Cohen" <apcohen@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Johnny Dollar

    I have run a bit behind in my reading of the Old Time Radio messages and saw
    a question about missing Johnny Dollar episodes from 1956.

    I reviewed a log produced many years ago by Radio Yesteryear about episodes
    in their collection.  I checked their listings for the specific titles
    note by the writer.  Here are the items they did not have (which coincides
    with the questioner's list).  Clearly, however,  failure of one vendor to
    list certain items is hardly proof that the episodes no long exist.

    1.  McClain Matter - #3 - 2/8/56 - not listed
    2.  Salt City Matter - #2 - 4/3/56 - not listed
    3.  Sea Legs Matter - #5 - 8/3/56 - not listed
    4.  Cranesburg Matter - #2 - date unknown - not listed
    5.  Imperfect Alibi - #2 - 9/18/56 - not listed

    I then checked the programs against my tapes, recorded from WAMU.  Of those
    programs, the only one I have is #2 of The Cranesburg Matter.  The show
    was a six part story. The dates were Friday 8/24, 8/27, 8/28, 8/29, 8/30,
    8/31.   My collection and the Radio Yesteryear list has the previous story
    as being the Crystal Lake Matter.  That 5-part story line ended on August
    17, 1956.   I have not listened to the tapes for some time but I know one of
    the multi-parters had an irregular schedule due to the election [removed]  Ah
    nuts, it was driving crazy so I pulled the tape.  The Republican Convention
    took the time slot on 8/20 through 8/23/56.  That is why the Cranesburg
    Matter was a six-parter.

    Hope this helps.

    Al Cohen

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    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:38:16 -0400
    From: Kubelski@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fred Allen Remembered

    This is sort of off-topic, but for those of us worried about the legacy of
    Fred Allen, an article in the New York Times today opens it with a Fred Allen
    quote "Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Television."  Implicit in this is
    that the people reading the article would know who Fred Allen was.  All is
    not lost.

    Sean Dougherty
    Kubelksi@[removed]

    [removed];RefId=l3eEFnnunwFF

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    Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:16:27 -0400
    From: "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];
    To: "otr digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Amos and Andy - Self-serve gas

    I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. I remember hearing an
    episode of Amos and Andy and would like to find out the title of the episode
    (and maybe locate a copy of the show itself). In it A'n'A are speculating on
    what business venture they could go into and one of them proposes opening a
    gas station only the other one says that would be too much work.
    The first one says they could have the customers do the work and pump their
    own gas and of course the response is that the idea was plumb crazy. Who in
    their right mind would pay to be able to pump their own gas? Indeed.

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    From: Mike Ray <MRay@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: My Super Hero
    Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:54:22 -0400

    Hi Gang:
    My super hero is and has been since I was
    a kid, Orson Welles. Mr. Welles (the first
    Lamont Cranston) was one of the very few
    real genius of OTR. (Elliott Lewis would be
    another) He direction, vision, writing and
    acting were absolutely spellbinding. He talents
    were unlike anything I had ever encountered,
    then or now. I'm so thankful so much of his
    work is still with us. He remains our obedient
    servant

    Mike Ray
    616-451-3061 Ext. 140

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