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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 177
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: About preserving cds [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
Re: Kiddie show question [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
Re: About preserving cds [ "Peter Simpson" <pwisimpson@tiscali ]
new OTR book available [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Re: Protecting CDs with stickers [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
5-25 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Re: Moylan Twins [ "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed]; ]
Re: Labelling CDRs [ Don Strong <donsplace@[removed] ]
Kiddie Show Question [ "Austotr" <austotr@[removed]; ]
Who is this with Bob Hastings? [ danhughes@[removed] ]
Don Pardo [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
Frankie Fontaine Show [ "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@earthlin ]
MP3 player for walking [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
Re: MP3 player for radio [ RickEditor@[removed] ]
Crossley Ratings; "Brown Betty" [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
5-26 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:39:43 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: About preserving cds
Protecting the top side of the CD is just as important as the burned side,
since if the top coating peals off, the laser will not be able to read to
burned side properly.
However, many people and companies suggest that paper labels not be applied
to CDs or DVDs. I can point you to tons of information about why. But to
keep this short for now, the best thing to do is just use a magic marker or
use a special printer that prints directly onto the CD or DVD.
Some printers require special printable CDs. Other more expensive printers
can print on just about any CD surface.
This is the short, simple answer. If anyone wants the technical side of
this, let me know and I'll provide you with much more than you ever wanted
to know.
Fred
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:05:14 -0400
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Kiddie show question
He recalls a kiddie show when he
was young 30s to 40s that featured a couple children going under water
and talking with fish and other marine type animals and having
adventures. Sounds like a serial, the way he described it.
I am not absolutely sure but it does sound like the ABC saturday morning show
from the 40s called Land of the Lost. Others may have a more deffinitive
answer.
-Bryan
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:57:09 -0400
From: "Peter Simpson" <pwisimpson@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: About preserving cds
I live in England which has higher and more variable humidity than many
parts of the US.
I have never used labels unless the top surface of the CD tends to come off
on my fingers (this is very rare). I have never had any problems. With
current CDR prices it is cheaper to make a copy for playing and keep the
original as a master disk.
I have a friend who has always put labels, which he prints, on his CDs. He
is now finding problems with reading those that he created a few years ago.
We think that this is due to the label contracting and bowing the CD into a
saucer shape. He has now abandoned the use of labels.
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:08:40 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: new OTR book available
For the few people asking about the GANG BUSTERS book, it's at the printers
and due to arrive within a couple weeks. Contrary to previous printed
advertisements, the book is not 500 pages. It turned out to total 650 pages
thick. GANG BUSTERS: CRIME FIGHTERS OF AMERICAN BROADCASTING is not yet
available on [removed] and won't be for another couple weeks but pre-orders
are now being accepted. Any orders received before June 15 do not have to
pay any postage fees (and with the book being as thick and heavy as it is,
you can expect the postage to be a lot).
The GANG BUSTERS book (note GANG BUSTERS is two words, not one word), is the
FIRST book ever written to document the radio/TV series, and does feature
the FIRST ever episode guide with all titles, airdates, episode numbers,
plot descriptions, etc. for all 1,000+ radio broadcasts and 70+ television
episodes, two movies, and so on, and so on.
The book documents almost everything about the radio series, including
criminals serving sentences who had injunctions served and went to court to
fight Phillips H. Lord in order to prevent their case history from being
broadcast, criminals apprehended, Lord's attempts at having GANG BUSTERS
endorse a national finger printing program, trivia about various episodes,
numerous details about the broadcasts, how the end-of-broadcast clues were
created, reprints of correspondence between Lord's office and lots of
people, submissions for radio broadcasts that never got made into feasible
scripts, and lots more. The book, hopefully, will allow collectors to date
their undated episodes, correct errors that appear in encyclopedias, etc.
Anyone attending the REPS convention at the end of June can purchase a copy
there (but the number of copies available is very LIMITED).
Book is $[removed] plus $[removed] postage (remember the no-postage offer) at GANG
BUSTERS BOOK, [removed] Box 189, Delta, PA 17314.
Martin Grams, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:42:53 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Protecting CDs with stickers
I figured there would be some misleading answers to the CD label question.
While most of the answers were correct, the one that discussed "paint" was
rather confused. On BOTH commercially pressed CDs and recordable CD-Rs,
the LABEL side is the one that must be protected from damage. That
reader's answer seemed to indicate that this was not true for commercially
pressed CDs. He then went on to discuss that the "paint" of CD-R labels is
actually the recording media itself. No, that is not true. In BOTH types
of CDs there is a printed label on top of a protective clear lacquer
coating, which, in turn, is on top of the reflective layer/recording media.
Actually they use a thicker and stronger lacquer on CD-Rs than they use on
commercially pressed CDs. But the label "paint" is not the recording media
on CD-Rs, It is possible, theoretically, to scrape the painted label from
the CD of either type and not affect either the protective lacquer or the
reflective layer, but more likely you would be breaking thru no matter how
careful you are. And you do have to remember not to put any pressure onto
the plastic of the disc so as to not damage the pressed grooving and pits.
So don't try it on anything but previously ruined discs.
While the label salesman was trying to convince the original poster that
the extra layer of paper would be protective of this label-side surface, he
was overlooking the two negative aspects of paper labels. It is highly
likely that the glue on some brands of labels will eventually eat thru or
have an adverse chemical reaction with something on the disc's coating.
After all, remember that some of the manufacturers of laser video discs
discovered that the glue they were using to glue the two sides of the discs
together were eating thru the surfaces and completely destroying the video
recordings. If the disc manufacturers themselves goofed in their choice of
glue--even after careful testing--what makes you think that some paper
label company would not make a mistake. But the worst problem with paper
labels is that they expand and contract at a different rate than the discs.
If you keep any discs in the car you will soon find this out. As was
mentioned in one of the earlier answers, this can cause the reflective
layer to be pulled off or can get jammed up in the load mechanism of some
players. At one time some manufacturers put out a thin plastic protector
disc that was held on to the label side by just static electricity. It
could be removed without damage. But it might still get jammed up on some
machines.
Just this week there was an AP story on this subject by Peter Svensson.
This is one of the URLs for the story
[removed] My paper published
several additional pictures beyond the one on this posting including one of
a collector, Mark Irons holding one of his damage discs at arms length,
showing some of the reflective layer had flaked off. If the reflective
layer is gone, even though the pits are pressed into the plastic on
commercially pressed discs, the recording will still be unplayable. It's
ain't just "paint."
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:44:47 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-25 births/deaths
May 25th births
05-25-1898 - Bennett Cerf - NYC - d. 8-27-1971
narrator, panelist: "Biography in Sound"; "What's My Line?"
05-25-1907 - Barbara Luddy - Helena, MT - d. 4-1-1979
actress: Carol Evans "Road of Life"; Janet Munson Adams "Woman in White"
05-25-1908 - Linda Watkins - Boston, MA - d. 10-31-1976
actress: Dot "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"; "Big Guy"; "Fat Man"
05-25-1908 - Robert Morley - Semley, England - d. 6-3-1992
actor: "[removed] Steel Hour"
05-25-1916 - Ginny Simms - San Antonio, TX - d. 4-4-1994
singer: "Ginny Simms Show"; "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
05-25-1916 - Kenin O'Morrison - St. Louis, MO
actor: Charlie Wild "Charlie Wild, Private Detective"
05-25-1917 - Steve Cochran - Eureka, CA - d. 6-15-1965
actor: "Voice of the Army"; "Unexpected"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
05-25-1918 - Henry Calvin - Dallas, TX - d. 10-6-1975
actor: Joshua Sharpe "Big Guy"
05-25-1921 - Kitty Kallen - Philadelphia, PA (Incorrectly listed as 5-21 on
the 21st)
singer: "Kitty Kallen Calling"; "Harry James and His Music Makers"
05-25-1925 - Jeanne Crain - Barstow, CA - d. 12-14-2003
actress: "Screen Guild Players"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Hallmark Playhouse"
05-25-1929 - Beverly Sills - Brooklyn, NY
singer: "Major Bowes Capitol Family"
May 25th deaths
04-18-1880 - Donald Crisp - Aberfeldy, Scotland - d. 5-25-1974
actor: Jonathan Trimble "Jonathan Trimble, Esquire"
09-08-1914 - Hillary Brooke - Astoria, NY - d. 5-25-1999
actress: "Suspense"
10-09-1907 - Henry Hunter - Rahway, NJ - d. 5-25-1985
actor: Anthony J. Marleybone "Affairs of Anthony"; Terry Regan "Attorney at
Law"
11-06-1899 - Francis Lederer - Prague, Czechoslovakia - d. 5-25-2000
guest armchair detective: Ellery Queen
--
Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:45:06 -0400
From: "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Moylan Twins
By the way, my wife was very pleased at the Moylan Twins stuff I found on
google. There was even a clip of them singing their theme song for Thrivo
Dog
Food.
When I input "Moylan Twins" with quotes I got no hits. When I did it
without quotes, I got lots of listings with Moylan or twin but not the radio
duo (on WOR in the 40s, if I have the right people). Could you please give
me a URL? Thanks!
Candy Jens
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:45:28 -0400
From: Don Strong <donsplace@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Labelling CDRs
According to my archivist friends, the safest way to mark CDRs is to
use a permanent marker, and write the title or info on the clear inner
ring where no information is encoded. Not much room there, but you
never have to worry about adhesive or ink leaking through or stick-on
labels separating and ruining your hardware.
-- [removed]
"You only need two things for repairs - WD-40 and duct tape. If it
should move and doesn't, WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, duct
tape."
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:09:41 -0400
From: "Austotr" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Kiddie Show Question
In issue 176, Deric asked
I have a friend who asked me bout a show I never heard of, though I
recall something but don't know where. He recalls a kiddie show when he
was young 30s to 40s that featured a couple children going under water
and talking with fish and other marine type animals and having
adventures. Sounds like a serial, the way he described it. He said it
was real fantacy for kids. I thought he might have been talking about
Magic Island, but he said that it wasn't that. It might have been 15
minutes in length. Any of you kid show experts have any ideas. If not,
I'll try to get more details this week sometime.
Well Deric, this may be a long shot, is your friend Australian or New
Zealander? In the late 1930's and early 1940's, George Edwards Productions
did do a Juvenile series called David and Dawn. It was serialised and very
very popular. We know it was exported to New Zealand and there is a good
chance it was exported to other countries including the [removed] One of the
David and Dawn serials SEA FAIRIES, did involve them in underwater
adventures and talking with fish. At this point in time I have never found
a single surviving episode of any of those serials and all of the Australian
Collectors have been looking (if not for me, for themselves :).
The series was also released in very beautiful picture books so the children
could read along with the adventures. I believe there were about 3 or 4, I
have them in my collection. George Edwards did the same with Search For The
Golden Boomerang, the pictures are very well done.
Certainly the series fits your description, I just hope that one day some
episodes will be found so that we can actually hear it. No doubt George
Edwards would have done most of the characters voices himself. George
Edwards was depicted as a Character in the serials and in the stories was
mentor to David and Dawn.
Hope that helps.
Ian Grieve
Moderator
Australian OTR Group
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:10:02 -0400
From: danhughes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Who is this with Bob Hastings?
Another autograph acquisition; this time a signed photo of Bob Hastings
(a YOUNG Bob Hastings), posing with a woman. Anybody know who she is?
Thanks!
Here's the photo: [removed]~[removed]
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:10:20 -0400
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Don Pardo
Andy Blatt mentioned Don Pardo on SNL. Don actually appeared on camera on
SNL either on their last show of this season or the one before that. I
don't recall seeing him (as opposed to hearing him) on the show before in
the 29 seasons its been on.
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:11:05 -0400
From: "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Frankie Fontaine Show
I'm just back online after a 10 day absence, and I've just
read the comments by Michael Biel about Fontaine. In
either 1951 or 1952, I attended The Frankie Fontaine Show
in Hollywood. He did the "crazy bit" as I hoped he would,
but my main reason for remembering his show was his
guest artist, Rosemary Clooney. I was a young sailor who
was thrilled by Rosemary, who was and is my all time
favorite vocalist. She was slim and beautiful in those early
years of her career, and the studio audience went wild
with applause, which seemed to surprise her --- happily,
of course. Thanks, Michael, for bringing back that memory.
_____________________________
Harry Machin Jr
harbev5@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:11:27 -0400
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 player for walking
Does anyone know of an MP3 player that will play the
slow bitrate OTRs and has an antiskip function that
one could use for walking. I have a Rio but its not
good for that.
I live in Korea so I cannot really reccomend brand names. However, my wife
has recently started to go to the gym and asked me about an mp3 player to
listen to a good murder while she is pumping that iron (actually I think she
mainly uses the walking machine, but she also does weights etc.) Her mp3
player has this little attachment so that she can strap it to her arm. In
this way it stops it banging about and "jolting" the player as it is
playing. If you are planning on some vigorous exercise or walking this may
be something that you may want to look out for.
Some of her favorite shows so far have been the recent Radio 4 "Maigret"
shows as well as some of the BBC7 detective shows available on the listen
again section. "Petrella", "Mclevy" (spelling?) and "Julie Enfield" have
all been on recently and she has liked all of them. The good thing is that
while you are concentrating on the show you are not thinking about the
possible boredom or pain of the exercise and so you keep going longer.
Love as always, David Rogers
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:34:27 -0400
From: RickEditor@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: MP3 player for radio
In a message dated 5/23/2004 11:22:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
MP3 player for walking
This is the one I have. It's great. Batteries last "forever" and ot plays
the low bit rates.
It's less than $100.
Sony D-NE710 ATRAC3/MP3 CD Walkman Portable Disc Player
You can see it at
_[removed]-
20/104-3536798-0137543?v=glance&s=electronics_ (ht
[removed]
4-3536798-0137543?v=glance
&s=electronics)
I have no connection with Sony, Amazon or any other company that makes even
the slightest amount of profit! I do, however, wish I owned a bundle of local
electric company stock!
rick selvin
philadelphia
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:35:01 -0400
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Crossley Ratings; "Brown Betty"
I read an interesting article in the August 10, 1938, issue of "Radio
Stars." It discusses the Crossley rating service to which more than
ninety percent of the transcontinental radio programs subscribed.
Apparently if you wanted to be rated, you signed up. Ratings were based on
telephone interviews conducted by Crossley surveyors nation-wide.
What amused me was one of the scoring methods used. It was referred to as
the "co-incidental interview." It involved telephoning while a program was
on and asking what the listener was hearing at the time.
Today, with the large number of people opposed to telemarketers
interrupting their private time, I wonder if it was any different for the
Crossley pollsters. I wonder how many people hung up on them? ++++
In the same issue was a feature entitled "Announcer's Favorite Recipes."
Milton Cross liked what the author referred to as a "Brown Betty."
What on earth is a "Brown Betty?"
Dennis Crow
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Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:22:34 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-26 births/deaths
May 26th births
05-26-1884 - Charles Winninger - Athens, WI - d. 1-19-1969
actor: Captain Henry "Show Boat"; Uncle Charlie "Uncle Charlie's Tent Show"
05-26-1886 - Al Jolson - Srednick, Lithuania, Russia - d. 10-23-1950
singer: (The Jazz Singer) "Shell Chateau"; "Kraft Music Hall"
05-26-1887 - Paul Lukas - Budapest, Austria-Hungary - d. 8-15-1971
actor: Albert Einstein "Quick and the Dead"
05-26-1893 - Edward MacHugh - Dundee, Scotland - d. 2-3-1957
singer: "Gospel Singer"
05-26-1895 - Norma Talmadge - Jersey City, NJ - d. 12-24-1957
actress: "Thirty Minutes in Hollywood"
05-26-1904 - George Formby - Lancashire, England - d. 3-6-1961
singer, actor: "Manitoba Flood Relief Show"
05-26-1907 - John Wayne - Winterset, IA - d. 6-11-1979
actor: Dan O'Brien "Three Sheets to the Wind"
05-26-1910 - Artie Shaw - NYC
bandleader: "Melody and Madness"; "Burns and Allen"
05-26-1911 - Ben Alexander - Goldfield, NV - d. 7-5-1969
actor: Frank Smith "Dragnet"; Bashful Ben "Great Gildersleeve"
05-26-1912 - Jay Silverheels - Six Nations Indian Reservation, Ontario, Canada
- d. 3-5-1980
actor: Television Tonto
05-26-1920 - Peggy Lee - Jamestown, ND - d. 1-21-2002
singer: "Jimmy Durante Show"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"; "Peggy Lee Show"
05-26-1931 - Chet Norris - Manhattan Beach, NY
actor: "Tomnorrow Calling"; "Cisco Kid"; "ABC Radio Workshop"
May 26th deaths
02-28-1914 - Jim Boles - Lubbock, TX - d. 5-26-1977
actor: Doc Long "I Love A Mystery"; Fulmer Green "King's Row"
03-15-1904 - George Brent - Dublin, Ireland - d. 5-26-1979
actor, moderator: "Doctor Fights"; "Leave It to the Girls"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-31-1901 - Joe Kelly - Crawfordsville, IN - d. 5-26-1959
emcee, quizmaster: "National Barn Dance"; "Quiz Kids"
08-15-1888 - Albert Spalding - Chicago, IL - d. 5-26-1952
violinist: "Forecast"; "Pause That Refreshes . . . On the Air"
--
Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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