Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #107
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 4/4/2007 6:53 PM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 107
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      4-4 births/deaths                     [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      hi yo                                 [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      Today's commercials VS the older one  [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
      Radio Commercials                     [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
      New Documentary File                  [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
      Re: Emmy Award - Gotham Radio Player  [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      "Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Nig  [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed] ]
      Lone Ranger / Green Hornet            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Lone Hornet                           [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Felix Stanly-Milwaukee radio singer   [ <mlhenry@[removed]; ]
      Behind the radio commercials          [ Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 02:12:01 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:14:23 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-4 births/deaths

    April 4th births

    04-04-1859 - Willfred Moore - d. 7-14-1939
    writer: "Air Advs. of Jimmy Allen"; "Howie Wing"; "Captain Midnight"
    04-04-1875 - Pierre Monteux - d. 7-xx-1964
    conductor: "The NBC Symphony Orchestra"
    04-04-1889 - Dorothy Gordon - Odessa, Russia - d. 5-11-1970
    moderator: "Dorothy Gordon's Youth Forum"
    04-04-1894 - Ed East - Bloomington, IN - d. 1-18-1952
    actor, writer, pianist, composer: "The Ed East and Polly Show"
    04-04-1895 - Arthur Murray - NYC - d. 3-3-1991
    dance master: "Natural Bridge Dancing Class"
    04-04-1896 - Robert Sherwood - New Rochelle, NY - d. 11-14-1955
    playwright: "Free Company"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Screen Guild
    Theatre"
    04-04-1897 - Albert Bagdasarian - d. 8-15-1968
    newscaster: WNBZ Saranac Lake, New York
    04-04-1897 - Erno Balogh - Budapest, Hungary - d. 6-2-1989
    pianist: WEAF New York City
    04-04-1900 - Chester Renier - d. 7-xx-1965
    producer, director: "Mother and Dad"
    04-04-1901 - Gay Seabrook - Seattle, WA - d. 4-18-1970
    actor: Susabelle "Joe Penner Show"
    04-04-1902 - Bernice Berwin - Bay Area, CA - d. 5-22-2002
    actor: Hazel Barbour "One Man's Family"
    04-04-1904 - John Brown - Hull, England - d. 5-16-1957
    actor: Digby "Digger" O'Dell "Life of Riley"; Melvyn Foster "A Date
    with Judy"
    04-04-1904 - Martin Wolfson - NYC - d. 9-12-1973
    actor: Second Brother "Into the Light"
    04-04-1906 - Bea Benaderet - NYC - d. 10-13-1968
    comedienne: Gertrude Gearshift "Jack Benny Program"
    04-04-1906 - John Cameron Swayze - Wichita, KS - d. 8-15-1995
    host. panelist: "Monitor"; "Who Said That?"
    04-04-1906 - Johnnie Athaide - d. 5-10-1988
    tenor: KGB San Diego, California
    04-04-1907 - Bob Venables - Woodstock, IL - d. 7-xx-1985
    announcer: "The Whistler"
    04-04-1908 - Ernestine Gilbreth Carey - NYC - d. 11-4-2006
    writer: (Cheaper By the Dozen) "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-04-1908 - Ted McMichael - Marshalltown, IA - d. 2-27-2001
    singer: (The Merry Macs) "Bing Crosby Show"; "Fred Allen Show"
    04-04-1914 - Frances Langford - Lakeland, FL - d. 7-11-2005
    singer, actor: Blanche Bickerson "Bickersons"; "Bob Hope Show"
    04-04-1914 - Richard Coogan - Short Hills, NJ
    actor: Robbie Hughes "Young Dr. Malone"; Abie Levy "Abie's Irish Rose"
    04-04-1914 - Rosemary Lane - Indianola, IA - d. 11-25-1974
    singer: (The Lane Sisters) "Fred Waring Show"; "Your Hollywood Parade"
    04-04-1922 - Elmer Bernstein - NYC - d. 8-18-2004
    composer: "Coming Home"; "Memos to a New Millenium"
    04-04-1932 - Anthony Perkins - NYC - d. 9-12-1992
    actor: "Guest Star"; "Listening to Music with Tony Perkins"
    04-04-1938 - Susan Luckey
    actor: Elizabeth Barbour/Jane Barbour "One Man's Family"

    April 4th deaths

    01-15-1929 - Martin Luther King - Atlanta, GA - d. 4-4-1968
    civil right leader: "Monitor"
    03-11-1909 - Karl Tunberg - Spokane, WA - d. 4-4-1992
    film writer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-20-1903 - Edgar Buchanan - Humansville, MO - d. 4-4-1979
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-27-1898 - Gloria Swanson - Chicago, IL - d. 4-4-1983
    panelist: "Hollywood Byline"; "Suspense"
    04-07-1916 - Anthony Caruso - Frankfort, IN - d. 4-4-2003
    actor: "This Is Your FBI"
    05-25-1916 - Ginny Simms - San Antonio, TX - d. 4-4-1994
    singer: "Ginny Simms Show"; "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
    06-12-1915 - Priscilla Lane - Indianola, IA - d. 4-4-1995
    singer: "Fred Waring Show"
    07-17-1918 - Red Sovine - Charleston, WV - d. 4-4-1980
    country singer: "Country Music Time"; "Country Hoedown"
    08-03-1896 - Wendell Hall - St. George, KS  - d. 4-4-1969
    singer: (The Red Headed Music Maker) "Eveready Hour"; "Red Headed
    Music Maker"
    09-10-1900 - Joseph Bentonelli - Sayre, OK - d. 4-4-1975
    operatic tenor: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Vick's Open House"
    10-25-1912 - Sherman Marks - d. 4-4-1975
    actor, director: Ichabod 'Ichy' Mudd "Captain Midnight"; "Cloak and
    Dagger"
    12-25-1944 - Kenny Everett - Liverpool, England - d. 4-4-1995
    disc jockey: "Kenny 'n' Cash Breakfast Show"
    12-31-1892 - Jason Robards, Sr. - Hillsdale, MI - d. 4-4-1963
    actor: Chandu "Chandu, the Magician"

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:14:36 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  hi yo

    It is true: the Lone Ranger has splendid language.  My personal favorite is
    Tonto, whose abbreviated English is simply poetic.  The guy spoke in haiku
    most of the time.

    M Kinsler

    512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368 740-503-1973
    [removed]
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:14:59 -0400
    From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today's commercials VS the older ones
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    Since the subject of advertising has come up on these boards more than once, I
    thought I'd add my 2 cents.  The major difference between the classic radio
    show commercials that most of us are willing to listen compared to the ads of
    today is simple.  Announcers and commercial spokespeople talked to their
    [removed] opposed to screaming at them!

    Announcers who shared the joys of Pillsbury snow sheen flower, autolite spark
    plugs and Lux flakes weren't beating us over the head.  They introduced the
    [removed] us what it [removed] got back to the show.  Unfortunately,
    there are advertisers (like car dealers) who feel that the majority of the
    people who buy their product have to be yelled at in order to realize the
    product exists.  So it should come as no surprise that after 4 or 5
    [removed] commercial spokespeople acting [removed] gonna get muted or
    completely turned off by a listener.

    As long as the consumer is treated like a [removed]'s a pretty good bet that
    the product that's being pitched won't be very successful---saleswise!

    argytunes

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:15:17 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Commercials

    In the early 1950s, my father was stationed in Japan, and the family was
    with him.  Our radio entertainment of the period was AFRS.

    Naturally, AFRS excised the commercials of all shows broadcast.  After a
    few weeks of listening to such programs, both my sister and I began to
    miss the commercials.  The longer we were there, the more we missed them.

    Once in a long while, a commercial of sorts would slip through.  If a
    cast member or host just spoke about a product without emphasizing words
    and/or without music or sound-effect emphasis, that kind of spiel might
    get past the censors.

    I heard only one commercial that way.  When it came on, I stopped all my
    activity and listened raptly.  So did all the other kids who happened to
    hear it.

    Ahh, the memories!

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:15:29 -0400
    From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  New Documentary File

    The life of Les Paul "Chasing Sound" soon to be released see a trailer
    at    [removed]

    At 90 still going strong. Les and guitar appeared on many OTR shows
    especially Bing Crosby's. He worked for Bing. He is great.

    Frank McGurn

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:18:55 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Emmy Award - Gotham Radio Players

    Steve Lewis wrote:
     > At the 2004 Friends of Old-Time Radio Convention the Gotham Radio Players
     > recreated an episode of THE ETERNAL LIGHT radio series, "The Battle
    of the
     > Warsaw Ghetto".

    I saw that performance and can tell you I was blown away and deeply
    moved by that performance!
    Even if you didn't get a piece of the statue, you certainly deserved
    something. If anyone has an
    opportunity to see these folks sometime, definitely take advantage of it.

    Jim Widner

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:19:02 -0400
    From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Night Stand
     with the Big Bands"

    The latest "Golden Age of Radio" programs with Dick Bertel
    and Ed Corcoran, and "A One Night Stand with the Big Bands"
    with Arnold Dean can be heard at [removed].

    Each week we feature four complete shows in MP3 format
    for your listening pleasure or for downloading; two "Golden
    Age of Radios" and two "One Night Stands." The two WTIC
    programs are on different web pages.

    We present new shows every week or so. The current four
    programs will be available on line at least until the morning of
    April 11, 2007.

    Golden Age of Radio with Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran

     Program 48 - March, 1974 - [removed] Marshall

    Everett G. Marshall started out on radio in his native Minnesota,
    then headed for New York and Broadway. After several years'
    solid stage service, Marshall began accepting small roles in such
    films as 13 Rue Madeline (1945) and Call Northside 777 (1947).
    A mainstay of television's so-called Golden Age, Marshall excelled
    in incisive, authoritative roles. Long before winning two Emmy
    awards for his portrayal of lawyer Lawrence Preston on TV's
    The Defenders (1961-65), Marshall was associated with fictional
    jurisprudence as the military prosecutor in The Caine Mutiny
    (1954) and as Juror #4 in Twelve Angry Men (1957). Radio
    fans will remember [removed] Marshall as the unctuous host
    ("Pleasant dreeeaaammms") of the 1970s anthology The
    CBS Radio Mystery Theatre.

    Program 49 - April, 1974 - Edgar Bergen

    Edgar John Bergen was best known as a ventriloquist. He
    was born in Chicago, Illinois to a Swedish family, grew up
    in Decatur, Michigan, and taught himself ventriloquism from
    a pamphlet when he was only 11. A few years later he
    commissioned a woodcarver to make a portrait of a rascally
    Irish newspaperboy he knew. The head went on a puppet
    named Charlie McCarthy, who became Bergen's lifelong
    sidekick.

    For his radio program, Bergen developed other characters,
    notably the slow-witted Mortimer Snerd and the man-hungry
    Effie Clinker. The star, however, was Charlie, who was always
    presented as a child - albeit in top-hat, cape, and monocle - a
    debonair, girl-crazy, child-about-town. As a child, and a wooden
    one at that, Charlie could get away with double entendre that
    adult humans could not, even in those more-censored times.

    A One Night Stand with the Big Bands with Arnold Dean

    Program 1 - December 15, 1969 - Glenn Miller

    This program was originally broadcast on WTIC in 1969, on
    the 25th anniversary of Glenn Miller's death, December 15,
    1944. It predated the "One Night Stand with the Big Bands"
    series.

    Program 2 - November 1, 1970 - Harry James

    This premiere show of the regular series features Harry
    James, band leader, and a well-known trumpet virtuoso.

    In the 1970's WTIC decided that there was a market in
    the evening for long-form shows that could be packaged
    and sold to sponsors. Two of those shows were "The
    Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Night Stand with the
    Big Bands."

    Dick Bertel had interviewed radio collector-historian
    Ed Corcoran several times on his radio and TV shows,
    and thought a regular monthly show featuring interviews
    with actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians
    from radio's early days might be interesting. "The Golden
    Age of Radio" was first broadcast in April, 1970; Ed was
    Dick's co-host. It lasted seven years. "The Golden Age
    of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights on Walden
    Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

    Arnold Dean began his love affair with the big band
    era in his pre-teen years and his decision to study
    the clarinet was inspired by the style of Artie Shaw.
    When he joined WTIC in 1965 he hosted a daily program
    of big band music. In 1971, encouraged by the success
    of his daily program and "The Golden Age of Radio"
    series, he began monthly shows featuring interviews
    with the band leaders, sidemen, agents, jazz reporters,
    etc. who made major contributions to one of the great
    eras of music history.

    Bob Scherago
    Webmaster

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:19:30 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lone Ranger / Green Hornet

    To add to Stephen's posting:

    First, the genealogy:  The Lone Ranger's nephew was Dan Reid.  Dan Reid
    was the father of Britt Reid.  Britt eventually ran The Daily Sentinel, a
    newspaper, and secretly was also The Green Hornet.

    Britt Elijah Reid was born in 1906, two years after her brother Jack.  His
    father, Dan Reid, completed his education at the Striker School of
    Journalism, and soon after, founded the city's first daily tabloid, THE
    SENTINEL, later to be retitled THE DAILY SENTINEL.  Dan married Margaret
    Sanford two months before the opening of the newspaper.

    Britt Reid's brother, Jack, went on to become an architect and marry Helen
    Sawyer, in 1934.  Britt joined his father's newspaper that same year as a
    crime reporter.

    In 1935, Britt accompanied his parents on a two month vacation to the far
    east, where he was destined to be near at hand when a Japanese lad, named
    Ikano Kato, nearly drowned in Tokyo harbor.  Britt saved Kato, who believed
    himself morally indebted to him and returned to the States to become best
    friends.

    In 1936, a new criminal mastermind appeared on the city streets, fighting
    fire with fire, a maked vigilante named THE GREEN HORNET.

    Britt Reid married Ruth Hopkins, had a daughter named Diana Reid, who would
    eventually grow up and become the district attorney.

    Britt's brother, Jack, gave birth to two boys, Tom Reid and Britt II.  Britt
    II would eventually take over the DAILY SENTINEL and Britt II was the second
    Green Hornet (and that's who you see on the TV series, hence why they make
    references on the TV series about the Hornet in the streets during the
    second world war, but he looks much too young to have been a masked avenger
    in the 1940s).

    Tom Reid had little involvement with the family's vigilante efforts, but his
    two sons, Alan and Paul, became the third and fourth Green Hornet during the
    1980s and 1990s.

    As for Kato, Ikano Kato served as the Green Hornet's companion for MANY
    years, and his son Hayashi Kato was the second Kato during the 1980s and
    1990s.

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:20:34 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lone Hornet

    Ted asked:

>     OK, so we all know that Britt Reid (The Green Hornet) is Ranger Reid (The
>     Lone Ranger's) great nephew (or grand nephew, depending on what school of
>     genealogy you subscribe to.)  But my question is:  How do we know that?  Was
>     it mentioned either in late episodes of the Ranger or early episodes of the
>     Hornet?

    There was a thee-episode story arc in the fall of 1947 in which Britt learns
    of his family ancestory.  One of the scripts was performed on stage at FOTR
    a few years back, and part two and three of the three-part story arc was
    released on a Radio Spirits CD set a couple years back.  The origin was also
    emphasized in numerous comic books, authorised through the Green Hornet,
    Inc.

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:52:57 -0400
    From: <mlhenry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Felix Stanly-Milwaukee radio singer

    Is anyone familiar with the radio work of Felix Stanly? He was Polish and
    sang on Milwaukee radio stations in the 1920's and 1930's. His original name
    was Felix Stanley Grzeszkiewicz, but he shortened his name for his
    professional career and his family still goes by "Stanly"

    Thanks.

    -Michael Henry
    Library of American Broadcasting

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    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:53:29 -0400
    From: Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Behind the radio commercials

    When I was producing the release of The New Adventures of Sherlock
    Holmes for cassette and CD, I had many occasions to have lunch with
    Glenhall Taylor. Glen was a major force in radio. Let me list here
    the shows he was involved with:  AS DIRECTOR --- "Blondie," "The
    Sealtest Variety Theatre," and "The New Adventures of Sherlock
    Holmes." AS PRODUCER --- "The Burns and Allen Show," and "The Dinah
    Shore Show." AS PRODUCER AND DIRECTOR --- "The Opie Cates Show," "The
    Rexall Summer Theater," "Silver Theater," and "The Tommy Riggs and
    Betty Lou Show." Quite a career!
    I bring this up because Glen was a vice president of the advertising
    firm of YOUNG AND RUBICAM. How come an advertising man could become a
    producer and director of radio shows?
    Glen explained to me that during the golden days of radio drama, it
    was the advertising agencies that actually set up the radio programs
    for the sponsors. In other words, the sponsors (be they LUX or CRISCO
    or KELLOGS, etc.) would hand over the entire process of creating a
    radio series to the advertising agency. In those slower days, it was
    decided upon that the average number of commercials per half hour
    radio show should be three. Opening, middle and end of show. Since
    the advertising agencies had to please the sponsors, they used
    discretion in how they presented the commercials. And, as already
    mentioned, many commercials were incorporated into the story lines of
    various shows such as Fibber McGee or Jack Benny. The FCC also had
    more power then and kept a watchful eye out for "indiscretions" in
    the story line AS WELL AS the commercials. Add to that the fact that
    the sponsors themselves kept a careful eye and ear tuned to the shows
    they sponsored -- to make sure everything was just right. That's
    because each and every show was sponsored by one company. Be it a
    soap company, a food company, a cigarette company. Thus, the
    advertising agency REALLY represented their clients (the sponsors)
    with great care, During those golden days it was extremely rare to
    have more than one sponsor represent a radio show. Occasionally a
    local station would throw in different sponsors on a show. And even
    though it can get tiring to listen to the same commercials week after
    week on a radio show ---- if your are listening to a run of one show
    today ---- it was all right then to hear the same commercials a week
    apart because there were so many other shows you listened to in between.
    During the early days of television (the 1950s), the TV shows were
    also sponsored by one sponsor. If it was "The Kraft Theater," it was
    just Kraft as sponsor. If it was "The Westinghouse Playhouse," then
    it was only Westinghouse as sponsor. You get the picture.
    What changed all this was the realization by the networks that they
    could control what shows they would pick to be put on television.
    This was essentially unheard of during the days of radio. Once the
    networks realized the power they had, they began changing HOW
    television shows were to be presented. The networks decided the
    placement of where each TV show would go. Then they decided to open
    up sponsorship. No longer would one sponsor control a show through
    the advertising agency. Soon each TV show had different sponsors
    during a half hour. This certainly pleased the networks. Then they
    did one other thing. They became aware of "dead air." Dead air is a
    pause after a commercial finishes and before the next commercial is
    aired or the next portion of the TV show starts. During radios day,
    there were often 10 to 15 seconds of dead air between shows, and
    sometimes a half second or so between segments of a show. Now the
    networks began timing how much dead air there was, and they realized
    they could consolidate all the dead air and stuff a 10 second
    commercial here or a 5 second commercial there.
    Today, there is absolutely no breathing time. Every second counts.
    Every second is taken up by a commercial and it is important to stuff
    as many commercials as possible in between each TV show. That's a
    hell of a lot of money the networks are making! And all the
    commercials are from different sponsors -- which gives the networks
    complete control of programing and little power to the sponsors or
    the advertising agencies.
    Thus, we are forced to watch and listen to not one ad at the
    beginning, middle and end of each TV show, but more and more
    commercials jammed together, eating up program time. And to top it
    off, in between each show we are forced to watch and listen to short
    commercials with no breathing space at all. It's insane. No wonder we
    have no continuity, no sense of solidity from a single sponsor. And
    no wonder we fast forward through the "schlocky" commercials on TV
    shows.
    So, I would suggest the joy of listening to an old time radio show or
    two, or sitting back and quietly opening a book and reading some
    delightful short story or novel. What can you loose?
    Ken Greenwald

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