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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 356
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  ADMINISTRIVIA: Forwarding the Digest  [ Charlie Summers <listmaster@lofcom. ]
  Badge 714/Dragnet Reruns              [ "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed]; ]
  Kelsey Grammer/Jack Benny Special     [ George Tirebiter <tirebiter2@hotmai ]
  Jack Westaway                         [ Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed]; ]
  Pardon the Grammer                    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  12-21 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  [removed] [removed]                   [ Afanofoldradio@[removed] ]
  Dragnet/Badge 714                     [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  WFAN Philadelphia help?               [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
  Segregated Seating in Radio Studios   [ Bethany Rutledge <bsr_mmr@[removed] ]
  Jack Benny moves                      [ Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:14:10 -0500
From: Charlie Summers <listmaster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  ADMINISTRIVIA: Forwarding the Digest into Gmail

Folks;

   It has come to my attention that some of you are, in an attempt to perform
a service, forwarding the Digest into Gmail addresses. The server
specifically rejects subscriptions from Gmail because of the privacy
implications for the posters to this Digest; I will include links to follow
below that will help explain why mail going INTO Gmail subjects the sender to
privacy violations they did not agree to the way the recipient has.

   It is a shame that one or two people have no respect for the posters they
profess to enjoy, instead demanding the Digest be forwarded into Gmail and
blaming the restriction (and, of course, me) instead of Gmail's privacy
violations. I would greatly appreciate it if you would NOT forward any issues
of the Digest into any address on that system - issues that go there are
parsed, retained, and used specifically for marketing purposes without the
sender's consent, and one of my roles as "list mom" is to protect the posters
here as much as possible from such nonsense.

   I will replicate this letter on the Nostalgic Rumblings blog at
[removed] sometime Friday - if you want to discuss this,
please do so there, not on the Digest.

   As promised, for more information:

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         Charlie

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:08:19 -0500
From: "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Badge 714/Dragnet Reruns

In the first Dragnet series (1951-59 NBC), beginning in the 1953-54 season
earlier episodes were syndicated under the title "Badge 714"..This is
problably the first instance of a current series having earlier episodes
syndicated, as would become commonplace in the 70's and 80's with Three's
Company (Too) and Happy Days (Again) and Laverne and Shirley (and Company),

Tim Lones

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:09:04 -0500
From: George Tirebiter <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Kelsey Grammer/Jack Benny Special

Our worthy administrator wrote:

[ADMINISTRIVIA: Grammer has made no secret of his admiration for Benny;
indeed, in 1995 he hosted the tribute special "Kelsey Grammer Salutes Jack
Benny," which included the indulgance of Grammer "working" with Benny
through digital technology. --cfs3]

I seem to recall there were three of these specials at about that time
(mid-1990s) in which modern comedians saluted the predecessors they most
admired.  I also remember Jerry Seinfeld did one on Abbott and Costello. But
I can't remember who was the third set of modern and old-time comedians.  Or
were there really only two specials and not three?

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:09:20 -0500
From: Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Westaway

Recently ran across a premium of a brass divers helmet pin for the Jack
Westaway club.  It was supposedly sponsored by Coco Malt and was a
children's [removed]

I can find no other information on the program other than it was on in
the 1930's. Tumbush does show the pin.

Hickerson and Dunning have nothing on it as far as I can tell unless the
title is not Jack Westaway.

Anyone have any more information on this show?

Thanks.

Dick

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:40:25 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Pardon the Grammer
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Larry Jordan wrote that  he is starting to see more and more of Jack Benny's
mannerisms exhibited by Kelsey Grammer in the "Frasier" reruns Larry is
enjoying. Well, I can tell you that Kelsey has gone beyond studying JB's
delivery and technique via OTR audio- & video-tapes. He has also read and
studied the Milt Josefsberg book "The Jack Benny Show," an out-of-print book
prized among us Benny-philes not only for giving a history of the show, but
also for analysing Jack's timing and interaction with other cast members. It
turns out that my pal Talking Book narrator Richard Davidson, who records here
in NYC at American Foundation for the Blind, is best-friends with Kelsey. When
Richard found out such a book existed and that I possessed an extra copy of
it, he inveigled it out of me so that Mr. Grammer could read up on Jack in
anticipation of the 1995 NBC  TV special Charlie Summers mentioned.  Mind you,
this was before the rise of Amazon, Alibris, Bookfinder, et. al.

Yes, it was cool to see Kelsey Grammer interacting with Jack Benny thanks to
modern-day TV technology, but what was the upshot and outcome of the special?
At the time,  Kelsey had the star-power at NBC  to get such a special produced
and aired, and NBC scheduled it for Thanksgiving evening 1995 at 10 PM, a
time-slot usually reserved for the then-hot property "ER." Sadly, it turns out
NBC affiliates complained that they would've gotten better ratings with an
"ER" rerun than they did for Grammer/Benny, and we haven't seen much of Mr.
Kubelsky on prime-time network TV since.

If there's any one-volume OTR-related book that should be in-print and readily
available, it's the Josefsberg "Benny" book. Are you listening, Ben Ohmart or
McFarland?

Merry Christmas, everybody!

Derek Tague

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:23:37 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  12-21 births/deaths

December 21st births

12-21-1872 - Albert Payson Terhune - Newark, NJ - d. 2-18-1942
dog expert: "Dog Dramas"
12-21-1907 - Bob Strong - Kansas City, MO - d. unknown
orchestra leader: "Avalon Time"; "Uncle Walter's Doghouse"
12-21-1908 - Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver - Los Angeles, CA - d. 3-15-2002
producer: "Fred Allen Show"
12-21-1910 - Mary Orr - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-22-2006
author: "Radio City Playhouse"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
12-21-1911 - Grant Richards - Raleigh, NC - d. 7-4-1963
actor: Charles Dobbs "This Is Nora Drake"; Hal Thomas "Against the
Storm"
12-21-1913 - Louise King - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 8-14-1997
singer (The King Sisters) "Horace Heidt and His Brigadiers"; "Al
Pearce and His Gang"
12-21-1915 - Werner Von Trapp - Zell am See, Austria - d. 10-11-2007
singer: (Trapp Family Singers) "Christmas Seal Sale"
12-21-1916 - St. John Terrell - Chicago, IL
actor: Jack Armstrong "Jack Armstrong, the All-American boy"
12-21-1917 - Rolly Bester - NYC - d. 1-12-1984
actor: "Tales of Tomorrow"
12-21-1922 - Paul Winchell - NYC - d. 6-24-2005
ventriloquist: "Paul Winchell-Jerry Mahoney Show"
12-21-1928 - Bryce Bond - Plainfield, NJ
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
12-21-1928 - Ed Nelson - New Orleans, LA
actor: "Hollywood Theatre"
12-21-1928 - Ross Barbour - Columbus, IN
singer: (The Four Freshman) "Four Freshman"; "Here's to Veterans"

December 21st deaths

02-10-1902 - Stella Adler - NYC - d. 12-21-1992
acting teacher: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
02-14-1902 - Stu Erwin - Squaw Valley, CA - d. 12-21-1967
comedian: Fairchild Finnegan "Phone Again Finnegan"
03-06-1905 - Adelaide Hawley - d. 12-21-1998
consultant on women's issues: "Adelaide Hawley Show"
03-21-1903 - Mark Hellinger - NYC - d. 12-21-1947
broadway, hollywood producer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Post Toasties Time"
03-25-1908 - Philip Reed - NYC - d. 12-21-1996
actor: Ross Barrington "Society Girl"; Brian Wells "David Harum"
03-27-1904 - Hal Kemp - Marion, AL - d. 12-21-1940
bandleader: "Phil Baker Show"; "Lady Esther Serenade"; "Gulf Gas
Program"
07-02-1916 - Barry Gray - Red Lion, NJ - d. 12-21-1996
talk show host: "Barry Gray on Broadway"; "Scout About Town"
09-11-1936 - Roger Barkley - Minnesota - d. 12-21-1997
actor: "Empire of the Air"
09-24-1896 - F. Scott Fitzgerald - St. Paul, MN - d. 12-21-1940
writer: "Escape"; "NBC Presents: Short Story"
09-27-1934 - DickSchaap - NYC - d. 12-21-2001
sportscaster: "Sports Answer Man: "Sports Week"
10-26-1876 - [removed] Warner - London, England - d. 12-21-1958
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-04-1906 - Sterling North - Edgerton, WI - d. 12-21-1974
writer, host, critic: "Of Men and Books"
12-02-1910 - Robert Paige - Indianapolis, IN - d. 12-21-1987
actor: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Lux
Radio Theatre"
12-07-1910 - Rod Cameron - Calgary, Alberta, Canada - d. 12-21-1983
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
12-12-1898 - Noreen Gammill - Missouri - d. 12-21-1988
actor: Sister Dinwiddie "Bill Goodwin Show"; Cathy "Opie Cates Show"
12-13-1890 - Marc Connelly - McKeesport, PA - d. 12-21-1980
writer: "Free Company"; "Security Workshop"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-17-1927 - Richard Long - Chicago, IL - d. 12-21-1974
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Proudly We Hail"
12-31-1904 - Nathan Milstein - Odessa, Russia - d. 12-21-1992
violinist: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"; "Concert Hall"
xx-xx-1885 - Mary Cecil - NYC - d. 12-21-1940
actor: Miranda Chandler "The Life and Love of Dr. Susan"
xx-xx-1900 - Thomas Freebairn-Smith - Walton-on-Thames, England - d.
12-21-1985
writer, producer: "Jonathan Trimble, Esq."; "Al Pearce and His Gang"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:04:44 -0500
From: Afanofoldradio@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  [removed] [removed]
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A correction must be made to the [removed] [removed] Mala Powers I believe
died either in late spring or early summer of cancer at age [removed] death
date
was [removed]

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:05:26 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Dragnet/Badge 714

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:15:06 -0500
From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];

When Dragnet series was finished with network TV, and went into reruns
it was renamed "Badge 714". and Dragnet was not mentioned at all. The
same music with multi sponsors. I assume it was syndicated. It was on
Chicago TV every night don't remember the channel.

This happened long before it was finished on TV.  It's common now for
shows to go into syndication as soon as there are enough episodes,
even while new shows are on the network.  In those days, it was all
new, and Dragnet/Badge 714 was the first to do that.

But for some reason, it was felt necessary in those days for the
syndicated version to have a different title.  So Dragnet in
syndication was "Badge 714," Captain Gallant of the Foreign Legion
was syndicated as "Foreign Legionaire," and Lassie was syndicated as
"Jeff's Collie."  The Danny Thomas Show, originally titled "Make Room
for Daddy," went into syndication using that name, while the network
show used the new title.  Eventually (by the 1960s, I would say),
that title distinction no longer seemed important, and shows went
into syndication using the same title as on the network.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         [removed]

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:26:00 -0500
From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  WFAN Philadelphia help?

I have an autograph I'd like to know more about.  It looks like "Artie
Bittorig", and from the inscription it looks like he played a character
name King Cheerio on WFAN radio.

Was King Cheerio a character on a children's show?  What does "[removed] #2"
mean?

Any guesses on the year?  Probably the 1920's or 1930's?

Here it is:
[removed]

Any help on further identifying this page will be deeply appreciated.

---Dan Hughes

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:31:51 -0500
From: Bethany Rutledge <bsr_mmr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Segregated Seating in Radio Studios

I was listening to a 1943 episode of the Jack Benny
program in which Rochester and his niece, Butterfly
McQueen, are members of the studio audience for the
broadcast-within-the-broadcast. I found myself
wondering whether the major studios had segregrated
seating during this era.

Would African-Americans attending broadcasts have had
to sit in a certain area? Would this have been an
unspoken arrangement, so to speak, similar to movie
theaters? Were some studios segregated and others not?
I wonder, also, if programs starring African-American
performers would have had special seating
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Any thoughts?

Bethany
Tucson, AZ

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:45:43 -0500
From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny moves
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Johnny Carson did Jack Benny mannerisms from time to time on "The Tonight
Show" from 1962 to the early nineties.

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