Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #345
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Date: 9/4/2002 7:53 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 345
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Giant Rats?                           [ "Edward R. Kowalski" <edrk@starpowe ]
      Freeburg not Owens                    [ "Arte" <arte@[removed]; ]
      The Lone Ranger                       [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Re: Our Miss Brooks                   [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ lois@[removed] ]
      ARTHUR GODFREY CB$                    [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      Skittles - in Sherlock Holmes         [ "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed] ]
      The Twilight Zone on Radio            [ "Carl Amari" <camari@falconpictureg ]
      Holmes- skittles                      [ "Gareth Tilley" <tilleygareth@hotma ]
      Who's On First predecessor            [ Wboenig@[removed] ]
      Sherwood Anderson                     [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      RE: MP3 and Tape Projects             [ "otrWalter (E-mail)" <otrwalter@t ]
      Couple Next Door                      [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      RE: MP3 and Tape Projects             [ "otrWalter (E-mail)" <otrwalter@t ]
      Re: Trademarks                        [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Bob Hope/Bing Crosby Feud             [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      America First                         [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:32:42 -0400
    From: "Edward R. Kowalski" <edrk@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Giant Rats?

    My semi-annual appeal for help: Does anyone remember what I think was either
    a Mysterious Traveller or The Whistler story about miners working in the
    world's deepest coal mine, finding a huge metal capsule with ancient writing
    on it, deciphering it as the capsule containing the frozen survivors of a
    lost civilization? The capsule is finally opened & giant rats are inside,
    which the miners or scientists kill. Of course, the rats are the survivors.
    Anyone remember this? What show? Anyone have a copy? Or, is this all in my
    head?
    ANY help would be GREATLY appreciated.
                                                                            Ed

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:32:06 -0400
    From: "Arte" <arte@[removed];
    To: "OldRadio Mailing List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Freeburg not Owens

    Another "senior" moment.  That's what happens when I trust
    my memory and operating mouth before engaging brain.

    Sorry, Stan.

    Arte
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:32:23 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger

>     Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:52:53 -0400
>     From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];

>     1954 - The Lone Ranger was heard on radio for the final time after 2,956
>     episodes spanning 21 years.

    Not quite.  This was the last time the LR was heard with a new episode.
    The Lone Ranger was broadcast on ABC on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at
    that time, with Sgt. Preston on Tuesday and Thursday.  When new episodes
    stopped, the LR continued in reruns.  At some point, it ended its run on
    ABC with the announcement "Be sure to hear the Lone Ranger Monday through
    Friday on another network."  And it then moved to a Monday through Friday
    slot on NBC for awhile, in reruns.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:32:51 -0400
    From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Our Miss Brooks

    Roby McHone writes:

>     One of my favorite OTR series is "Our Miss Brooks".  Unfortunately, there

    are not a lot of the shows in

>     circulation.  Does anyone know why there are not more shows in circulation.

    It's one of mine, too, though I've never found this series particularly
    hard to find. There are over 100 episodes of the series in our CD library
    and most dealers carry quite a few shows in their catalogs, too.

    (PS: Apologies all 'round for the "broken links" in my recent posting about
    "John and Marsha" - two out of the three, in fact. I tell ya, some [removed]")

    Harlan

    Harlan Zinck
    First Generation Radio Archives
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 04:52:05 -0400
    From: lois@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over five years, same time, same channel!

    Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
    Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
    Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
    "Archie Andrews;" owners of some of the best OTR sites on the Web;
    maintainer of the best-known OTR Digest (we all know who he is)..........

    and Me

    Lois Culver
    KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
    KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
    and widow of actor Howard Culver

    (For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:22:00 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  ARTHUR GODFREY CB$

>     ...was his weekly seven-and-a-half hours of Arthur Godfrey Time
>     non-qualifying?  Maybe it
>     was "only radio" and doesn't [removed]

    Certainly did for CBS -- by the time Arthur Godfrey Time ended its daily
    airing, CBS had paid for the cost of their entire broadcast day --
    everything following was total [removed]

          [removed]
          A DATE WITH SINATRA

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:21:19 -0400
    From: "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Skittles - in Sherlock Holmes
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    Bill Beard asked what skittles are.

    It's an old English pub game, the original for tenpin bowling. The website

    [removed]

    tells you all about the game. Apart from the alley version, there is a
    tabletop version for pubs that don't have space for the alley. Many local or
    country pubs still feature the game and there are leagues of teams all over
    the country.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again - the internet's a wonderful thing !

    Regards from England
    Phil

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:07:27 -0400
    From: "Carl Amari" <camari@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Twilight Zone on Radio
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    I am producing a new radio series based on Rod Serling's classic TV series,
    THE TWILIGHT ZONE which is hosted by Stacy Keach and starring Hollywood
    celebrities supported by a full cast, sound effects and music.  I've licensed
    the rights from CBS Enterprises and will be producing more than 150 shows.
    This series will air once-per-week on hundreds of commercial radio stations
    beginning this Halloween.  They will also reach a global audience via The
    Armed Forces Radio and Television Service. Each show is twice as long as the
    TV episodes with added scenes, dialog, etc. and the scripts are adapted by
    prolific science-fiction writer Dennis Etchison from the actual Serling
    scripts.  The recording sessions are produced in Chicago and each has show
    features a star (Jane Seymour, Lou Diamond Phillips, Ed Begley, Jr., Jim
    Caviezel, Stan Freberg, John Ratzenberger, Kim Fields, Michael Rooker, Jeremy
    Piven and many more). All of the shows will be available on CD and Cassette.
    The first 2 collections are currently available at [removed]
    By the beginning of October I should know the radio station carrying THE
    TWILIGHT ZONE in your area, so feel free to email me at
    camari@[removed] and I will be happy to provide you with that
    information.  For those of you who do not know, I am no longer with Radio
    Spirits, Inc. and I recently produced a feature film called MADISON starring
    Jim Caviezel, Mary McCormack, Jake Lloyd, Bruce Dern and John Mellencamp which
    is being released by MGM and Premiere Marketing & Distribution on January 31,
    2003.  To learn more about the film, go to [removed]  I wish all
    of you well.
    Sincerely,
    Carl Amari

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:15:59 -0400
    From: "Gareth Tilley" <tilleygareth@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Holmes- skittles

    Hi

    I can't remember the Sherlock Holmes episode but I can tell you that
    skittles is the English for bowling. The skittles are the pins.

    Gareth

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:22:03 -0400
    From: Wboenig@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Who's On First predecessor
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    Some two or three years ago I remember listening to a comedy team from the
    mid-1930s doing a routine that was remarkably similar to Abbott & Costello's
    "Who's On First".  Can anyone tell me what show or team I may have been
    listening to?  Thanks.

    Wayne Boenig

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:11:52 -0400
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sherwood Anderson

    my friend is looking for a radio interview of playwright Sherwood
    Anderson some time before his death in 1941

    Does anybody know of one?

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:12:00 -0400
    From: "otrWalter (E-mail)" <otrwalter@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: MP3 and Tape Projects

>     1. MP3 List

>     I estimate that apx. 70,000 shows have been encoded
>     At this point, there is no definate [removed]

    I have some 30 to 40 thousand files.

    I can give you a list.

>     It would also be helpful to prevent others from
>     duplicating work when they could in fact be getting new
>     material out there.

    Now, this is where what sounds like a good idea is not that good.

    Duplicating wrong is not always a good thing, but, I would pitch my entire
    collection if I could get 1/3 of it back in high quality formats.

    Most of the files I have, and from what I understand is in circulation, is
    mostly low res (26k, 32k) MP3 format.

    There are a few of us trying to locate low-gen tapes to make new digital
    masters from so we can make better MP3 files for distrobution.

    Walter

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:11:43 -0400
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Couple Next Door

    Michael Leannah wrote:

>     I have several tapes of The Couple Next Door by Peg Lynch but I am
>     looking for more and am having a hard time locating them. Does anyone know
>     if there are many available?

    Hey Mike, look in SPERDVAC. There are one hundred and twenty "The Couple
    Next Door" shows on reels 1381 through 1390 in SPERDVAC's General Library.

    Barbara

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:12:19 -0400
    From: "otrWalter (E-mail)" <otrwalter@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: MP3 and Tape Projects

>     2.  Tape Collections

>     ...In the past few months, I have heard of people parting with
>     their tape collections.

    Parting!? As in passing them on or throwing them away!

    Please no. We have been looking to hard and long for low-generation tapes to
    hear that peopl eare destroying them!

>     If someone has that on their [removed]
>     This is one way a tape collection can live on
>     and help many [removed]
>     if this is something you're considering or you know of
>     someone who is

    yes please! Contact someone, we *will* accept any tapes!

    We have a long hard road ahead to re-build the MP3 collections into high
    quality formats.

    And it saddens us to know that many have been lost forever, and now to know
    that many where within grasp have slipped into oblivion

>     3. Tape Encoding

>     ...anyone who would like to convert their collection into
>     mp3s or would like to help others in that [removed]

    Yes, please, contact soemone!

    There are also other organizations who would accept tapes.

    as well as me.

    Walter

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:56:24 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Trademarks

    "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed]; said:

>     I'd say that Microsoft probably has a valid trademark [Windows"].
>     This falls under the category of a common term which has acquired a
>     secondary meaning.  You don't have to make up a word in order to have
>     a trademark.

    I did not mean to suggest that Microsoft could not trademark Windows
    because it is a common word referring to a normal feature of the average
    home, even though few of us look away from our tv's long enough to
    glance out them anymore. Their trademark has been challenged because the
    word was used in the software industry long before Microsoft made it a
    logo, to refer to the placing of parts of directories within a frame
    exactly as Microsoft eventually did (Microsoft also got sued for copying
    the Apple Mac interface so closely, but they bought their way out of
    that). In other words, it is not a case of trying to trademark the word
    American when referring to American Brand Tires, but rather of trying to
    trademark the word "tire."  The issue is in the courts now, but I don't
    know the current status of it.

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:53:22 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bob Hope/Bing Crosby Feud

    The Jack Benny/Fred Allen feud is very well documented. I have not read
    anything on the Bob Hope/Bing Crosby feud. Does anyone know how, why, when and
    where it got started?
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Hometown of Mr. District Attorney "Jay Jostyn"

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    Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:41:17 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  America First

    Eric Cooper asked:
    "I was wondering whether the broadcasts done by the America First
    Committee in 1940 and 41 were syndicated or did they buy network time?"

    I have an article I wrote but never published sometime back on Roosevelt,
    Lindbergh and America First and in my research I found that the America
    First Committee used the services of an ad agency - Batten, Barton,
    Durstine & Osborn to produce and distribute the America First recordings.
    Bruce Barton, one of the agency founders was a strong isolationist. The
    agency then purchased time from individual stations, but many of the
    stations balked at the subject matter being too controversial and in
    violation of the code of ethics as written by the National Association of
    Broadcasters in 1939. The code of conduct stipulated that members would not
    sell time for the discussion of controversial subjects but would provide
    their facilities without charge to opposing sides of any legitimate public
    issue. (The code, by the way, is what got Fr. Coughlin in trouble)

    While the code was not law, it was strongly supported and the agency
    addressed the hesitation by stations by working through the NAB publication
    director at the time, Ed Kirby. The trade-off was that the AFC would
    identify itself as "non-partisan" even though their subject matter was
    certainly otherwise.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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