Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #159
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 4/30/2002 9:03 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 159
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  "Say Goodnight, Gracie"               [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Carnation Family Party                [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
  Crosby                                [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  My gosh! OTR on the snopes site!      [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
  Amusing TV Guide Rankings             [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
  Superstitions                         [ jackbenny39@[removed] ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:09:34 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Say Goodnight, Gracie"

I have just completed reading a book that held my interest from start to
finish. "Say Goodnight, Gracie."

To begin with, I do not have a financial interest in the book "Say Goodnight,
Gracie" by Jim Cox, a frequent and enlightened contributor to  this wonderful
OTR Digest. I do not expect anybody to drop what they are doing to rush out
and purchase a book on my say so, but I have read a  good many books about old
time radio in my time and this book ranks as one of the best.

In spite of its title, it is not a book about George Burns and Gracie Allen.
It is about 1950s network radio and the contributing factors leading to its
decline. Jim takes it one step further with the last chapter called "The
Postgolden Years: 1961-Present." It is a book long needed in the old time
radio community.

I have always had this tremendous feeling of guilt that I was the main reason
why radio, as we love it, died. It was me after all who dropped radio like a
hot potato (no ‘e’ Dan) when television burst forth upon the scene. After
reading Jim’s book I still harbor that guilt feeling, but it is not  as
intense as it once was. Jim points out several factors that caused radio to
fade away into our memories. I was not the only one at fault.

It was a delightful read and for people of our persuasion it was time well
spent.

I highly recommend it. No self respecting OTR library should be without it.
--
Ron Sayles

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:44:16 -0400
From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Carnation Family Party

Greetings! I have the [removed] for the program of Sat. 11/19/49 of the above
mentioned show. The problem is that I only have parts 2 and 5. Does anyone
out in 'Radio Land' have the other three parts? According to Hickerson, no
known recordings exist of this series. Anyway, if you happen to have them,
contact me and we can work out asembling the pieces.
Thanks
Shawn

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:20:00 -0400
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Crosby

I am interested in reading some details about the infamous Crosby
bootleg record of the 1960s (?). As I recall, a Crosby collector had
every record released but wanted more, so he took a job in the RCA
vault. Soon he had sneaked all Crosby alternate takes from the vault.
Not content, he then pressed the choice items (including Crosby drunk
and cursing) into the bootleg which he distributed to other Crosby
collectors.

Can someone clarify this with facts and the full sequence of events?

Bhob @ FUSEBOX ONLINE COMICS @ [removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:01:55 -0400
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  My gosh! OTR on the snopes site!

I just found reference to Dragnet, Joe Friday, Stan Freberg and Michael
Hayde at the snopes urban legend site!  Check out:

[removed]

Arlene Osborne

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:02:24 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Amusing TV Guide Rankings

TV Guide is shamelessly promoting itself with a list of the 50 greatest TV
Shows of all time (the magazine just turned 50).

If Gunsmoke (#40) and I Love Lucy (#2) weren't on the list, I'd have thought
they blackballed every program that originated on radio.

How can anyone who's actually seen the programs have ranked Friends ahead of
Burns & Allen (which didn't even make the list), for example?

Ditto for "Dragnet" (unranked) and "Hill Street Blues," just to keep the
genres consistent.  You could argue that the 60s Dragnets pulled down the
average for the series, but hey, I'm old enough to have watched Hill Street
when it was on and its last three years didn't do that show any favors,
either.

Finally, I love Agnes Moorhead as much as the next person, but again, if
Burns & Allen isn't on the list at all, where does "Bewitched" come from?
Also, sports programming was evidentally not ranked, a potential disservice
to Hockey Night in Canada (another radio emigree).

Anyhow, people on this digest might find the list equally diverting, so I
attach a link below.

Sean Dougherty
Kubelski@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:19:19 -0400
From: jackbenny39@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Superstitions

   Does anybody know if any particular off-mike superstitions grew out of
the Golden Age of Radio on par with theatrical superstitions such as not
whistling in the wings, saying "break a leg," referring to "Macbeth" as
"the Scottish play," [removed]  I was talking to Derek Tague about this
recently, and neither of us knew of any.
   Thanks!
                                        -Karen

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:38:26 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

  From Those Were The Days --

1945 - "How would you like to be queen for a day?" That opening line,
delivered by host, Jack Bailey, was first heard on Mutual.  The first
Queen for a Day was Mrs. Evelyn Lane.

1945 - Arthur Godfrey began his CBS radio morning show. His theme was
Seems Like Old Times. Arthur Godfrey Time ran until this very same day
in 1972. Godfrey’s show was different in that he used live talent and
not records. His popularity with listeners was the major reason that
several sponsors gave Godfrey the freedom to ad-lib their commercials
and, from time to time, joke about the products as well.

  Joe

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