Subject: [removed] Digest V2009 #234
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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2009 : Issue 234
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Watson wife No 1 / 2              [ zbob@[removed] ]
      12-7 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      "Cinnamon Bear": Why Is 3:40 Wasted   [ "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed]; ]
      Question about radio transcription    [ Larry Jordan <midtod@[removed] ]
      Pearl Harbor Day Broadcasts           [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      Time travel                           [ Lakedm@[removed] ]
      CBS blacklist and Himan Brown         [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Captain Midnight 1942 Decoder         [ Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed]; ]
      12-8 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      OTR Question                          [ wallyely1@[removed] ]
      Re: Time Travel                       [ "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed]; ]
      The Winter Nostalgia Digest           [ Steve Darnall <fvpress@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:11 -0500
    From: zbob@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Watson wife   No 1 / 2
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    Subject: Re: Watson wife No 1. and  2:     A Holmes-enthusiast friend of mine
    had this response to the question of Watson' wives:::
    o;?   Well my elementary research says that Watson's first wife was Mary
    Morstan ("Sign of the four"); and his second one was Violet Hunter ("Adventure
    of the Copper Beeches").  Some radio shows used different names for wife two.
    He is right that Conan Doyle was a little sloppy with his fact checking.

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    Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:16 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  12-7 births/deaths

    December 7th births

    12-07-1879 - Rudolf Friml - Prague, Bohemia - d. 11-12-1972
    operetta composer: "Railroad Hour"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
    12-07-1888 - Heywood Broun - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-18-1939
    theatre critic: "Author, Author"; "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
    12-07-1892 - Fay Bainter - Los Angeles, CA,  - d. 4-16-1968
    actor: "Nobody's Children"; "Cavalcade of America"
    12-07-1901 - Jack Taylor - Summershade, KY - d. 8-4-1962
    singer: (Prairie Ramblers) "Smile-a-While"
    12-07-1904 - Bob Brown - NYC - d. 2-14-1988
    announcer: "Vic and Sade"; "Quicksilver"; "This Amazing America"
    12-07-1905 - Charles Magnante - d. 12-30-1986
    accordionist: "Major Bowes Capitol Family"; "Singin' Sam"; "Tony and
    Gus"
    12-07-1905 - Leonard Goldenson - Scottsdale, PA - d. 12-27-1999
    owner of the ABC network
    12-07-1906 - Fred Stewart - Atlanta, GA - d. 12-5-1970
    actor: "The Columbia Workshop"
    12-07-1908 - Beatrice Churchill - d. 12-13-2006
    actor: Betty Drake "Betty and Bob"
    12-07-1909 - Arch Oboler - Chicago, IL - d. 3-19-1987
    writer: 'Lights Out"; "Adam and Eve skit on Bergen/McCarthy"
    12-07-1910 - Charles Baltin - d. 11-9-1992
    newscaster: WHOM Jersey City, New Jersey
    12-07-1910 - Rod Cameron - Calgary, Alberta, Canada - d. 12-21-1983
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
    12-07-1912 - Louis Prima - New Orleans,LA - d. 8-24-1978
    jazz trumpeter: "You Can't Have Everything"; "Songs by Sinatra"; "The
    Navy Swings"
    12-07-1915 - Eli Wallach - Brooklyn, NY
    actor: "Eternal Light"
    12-07-1916 - Dorothea Brooking - Buckinghamshire, England - d. 3-23-1999
    announcer for the BBC
    12-07-1918 - Hurd Hatfield - NYC - d. 12-25-1998
    actor: "Best Plays"; "Crime Does Not Pay"
    12-07-1918 - Randy Atcher - d. 10-9-2002
    disk jockey: "Old Kentucky Barn Dance"
    12-07-1920 - Frances Gifford - Long Beach, CA - d. 1-22-1994
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-07-1922 - Don Maddox - Boaz, AL
    "The Maddox Brothers and Rose"
    12-07-1939 - Nomi Mitty - NYC - d. 8-24-1994
    actor: "The Goldbergs"

    December 7th deaths

    01-12-1916 - Jay McShann - Muskogee, OK - d. 12-7-2006
    jazz pianist and bandleader: "Jubilee"; "Jazz Alive"
    02-27-1910 - Joan Bennett - Palisades, NJ - d. 12-7-1990
    actor: "Ford Theatre"; "MGM Theatre of the Air"; "Skippy Hollywood
    Theatre"
    03-01-1921 - Kenny Baker - Yorkshire, England - d. 12-7-1999
    trumpeter: "Let's Settle for Music"
    03-06-1904 - Hugh Williams - Bexhill-on-Sea, England - d. 12-7-1969
    actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
    03-12-1914 - Loretta Poynton - Jackson, MI - d. 12-7-1991
    actor: Betty Fairfield "Jack Armstrong"; Ruth Morrow "Flying Time"
    03-25-1919 - Jeanne Cagney - NYC - d. 12-7-1984
    actor: (Sister of James Cagney) "Movietone Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"
    04-01-1884 - Laurette Taylor - NYC - d. 12-7-1946
    actor: "The Everedy Hour"
    04-17-1897 - Thornton Wilder - Madison, WI - d. 12-7-1975
    writer: "This Is My Best"
    06-07-1891 - Alois Havrilla - Pressov, Hungary - d. 12-7-1952
    announcer: "Campbell Soup Orchestra"; "Jack Benny Program"
    06-21-1925 - Desmond Briscoe - Birkenhead, England - d. 12-7-2006
    sound technician and effects cooridinator for the BBC Radio
    06-23-1914 - Nat Hiken - Chicago, IL - d. 12-7-1968
    creator, director, writer: "Magnificent Montague"; "Texaco Star Theatre"
    07-01-1913 - Dolph Nelson - d. 12-7-1981
    actor, director: "Captain Midnight"; "Art Linkletter's House Party"
    07-04-1883 - Rube Goldberg - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-7-1970
    cartoonist: "Famous Comic Artists"; "The Shell Show"; "Biography in
    Sound"
    07-12-1895 - Kirsten Flagstad - Hamar, Norway - d. 12-7-1962
    opera singer: "General Motors Concerts"; "Metropolitan Opera"
    08-07-1904 - Dr. Ralph Bunche - Detroit, MI - d. 12-7-1971
    activist: "The Big Show"
    09-27-1918 - Barclay Allen - d. 12-7-1966
    pianist/composer: "Freddy Martin, His Singing Saxophone and His
    Orchestra"
    09-29-1910 - Bill Boyd - Fannin County, Texas - d. 12-7-1977
    singer: (Cowboy Ramblers) WRR Dallas, Texas
    09-30-1911 - Jerry Scoggins - Mount Pleasant, TX - d. 12-7-2004
    singer: (Member of the Cass County Boys) "Gene Autry's Melody Ranch"
    10-17-1910 - George W. Briggs, Jr. - Taunton, MA - d. 12-7-1994
    staff pianist and arranger for WBZ radio
    12-15-1901 - Gail Bonney - Columbus, OH - d. 12-7-1984
    actor: "Family Theatre"; "Joan Davis Time"; "NBC University Theatre"

    Ron

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    Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:34 -0500
    From: "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed];
    To: "[The Old-Time Radio Mailing List]" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Cinnamon Bear": Why Is 3:40 Wasted Each Episode
     In Instrumental  Music!?!

    I've been on vacation for over two weeks in California, and have just gotten
    back a few days ago. And I've FINALLY gotten around -- very much belatedly!
    -- to listening to "The Cinnamon Bear".

    I have one question.

    Why the lengthy 1:50 instrumental music at the start and end of each episode?

    There's not even any voiceover, giving things like the actors' names, or
    such-like (such as you'd hear at the end of a show on The Mercury Theatre,
    for example). The music may be pretty, but so far as I can determine, it's
    pointless, wasting almost four minutes (3:40 seconds, to be exact) of each
    episode -- time that could be well-spent on other things!

    It must really have driven the poor kidlets CRAZY when it actually aired, as
    they waited impatiently for the show to actually [removed] AND THEN, when the
    episode finally ended, the kids would NEVER hear the all of the ending music,
    because their parents would be sure change the station, to hear some other
    show, LONG before that music ended!

    Has anyone any explanation of this really very strange usage of valuable air
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    Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:48 -0500
    From: Larry Jordan <midtod@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Question about radio transcription
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    I am wondering if some member of the OTR community could give me some
    help? After my dear Mother passed away at the age of 88 in October of
    last year, I discovered in one of her foot lockers a couple of
    transcription disks (acetates?), carefully tucked away. I recalled
    her telling me that she had sung a couple of religious songs with a
    male friend of hers at a special church concert that was broadcast on
    the radio in central Iowa (possibly WHO). I'm guessing that this was
    in the late 1930s or early '40s. The labels on the two disks suggest
    that these are ETs of this radio show.

    I am eager to have someone transfer the audio from disk to CD, but
    don't know anybody here in Iowa who could handle this task. Although
    I have a friend in Arizona who specializes in dubbing from old ETs, I
    am not going to send these heavy disks to him and risk having them
    damaged in transit.

    I've looked in the phone book and called a few places around central
    Iowa, but in our digital age none of the people who answered the
    phones at any of these so-called audio/video specialty shops had a
    clue to what I was even talking about. I need somebody who can
    identify what kind of disks these are, and knows precisely what type
    of needle needs to be used on disks from that era to prevent damaging
    them.

    I suspect I need to find some hobbyist or OTR fan who is accustomed
    to handling these fragile disks, in which case I would then hand-
    carry them to him (or her) and wait while they were being dubbed.
    Naturally, I expect to pay for this service.

    Does anybody out there know anyone who could do this for me in Iowa?
    (It has to be in reasonable driving distance of Des Moines).

    If so, I'd appreciate your letting me know.

    Thanks,
    Larry Jordan

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    Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:02:09 -0500
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Pearl Harbor Day Broadcasts
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           I just have one question: what programs were broadcast on Pearl
    Harbor Day, December 7, 1945?

    As always,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:25:11 -0500
    From: Lakedm@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Time travel
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    I'm not sure Heinlein would agree.  "A Door Into  Summer"

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:24:28 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  CBS blacklist and Himan Brown

    Kermyt mentioned:

>     The first category on the list is Producers and Directors, and the first name
>     on the list is Hi Brown. (Norman Corwin is on the next line.) At the bottom
>     of the page, they justify Brown's exclusion on the grounds that "Inner
>     Sanctum regularly uses pro-Communists." (I read Martin Grams' book on Inner
>     Sanctum, and I don't remember that being mentioned!)

    The subject was brought up but Himan Brown was not very co-operative over the phone during our interview. He insisted such statements as "Raymond Edward Johnson
    was the host of Inner Sanctum for only four episodes." He didn't quote wrong, he said four episodes. The truth was Johnson was the host for four years but he and
    Brown did not get along (Johnson admitted that many times over the decades). That and a number of other answers to questions made me aware that he was attempting to
    change history. His mind was sharp and knew many things accurately down to the detail, but he was deliberately giving me answers he knew was wrong. When I brought
    up the fact about his name appearing on CBS' hit list, he clammed up and told me he was never on such a list and then told me over the phone that I should have done
    my research before bringing that up. I didn't feel it was appropriate to mention it in the book as I didn't want to start any complications with Brown. But yes,
    his name was on the list. It was one of the reasons why he and members of his family attempted to produce a few television series. And he might have succeeded beyond
    the 39 INNER SANCTUM TV shows had the budget not been so cheap, which hampered production and made the films look like they were made in people's back yards.
    Martin

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:24:41 -0500
    From: Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Captain Midnight 1942 Decoder
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    Although from my previous posts there appears to be no one on the digest
    interested in collecting old radio premiums, I will try once again to
    see if anyone can help with a new question.

    I lived through the golden age of radio and have maybe 200 or more
    premiums in my collection.  One question that puzzles me is the photo of
    Captain Midnight used as part of the 1942 decoder.  The photo seems to
    be in color on some (if not most) of the decoders and a few seem to be
    in black and white. I am wondering if the reason most appear in color is
    the aging of the photo itself and they were all really in black and
    white. Possibly depending on how they were developed and the care used
    in the printing and fixing process could cause some to appear in color.

    I had this premium as a child and of course do not remember how the
    photo looked when new.

    Logically it seems very doubtful the the Wander Company maker of
    Ovaltine who sponsored Capt. Midnight would spend the money on a color
    photo especially considering that in 1942 color photos were quite rare -
    most professional photos of people in those days were black and white
    and for an additional fee they could be hand colored by an artist that
    worked for the photographer.

    Does anyone know if these photos were originally really in color as most
    appear to be.  Possibly Mr. Kallis can answer this question.

    Dick

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:24:55 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  12-8 births/deaths

    December 8th births

    12-08-1888 - Raymond Lawrence - Bedford Square, England - d. 3-28-1976
    actor: "Escape"; "The Halls of Ivy"; "Pursuit"
    12-08-1891 - Percy Crosby - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-8-1964
    "Skippy" a juvenile serial was based on Crosby's comic strip
    12-08-1892 - Dr. Jacob Tarshish - d. 12-23-1960
    rabbi: "The Lamplighter"
    12-08-1894 - Elzie Segar - d. 10-13-1938
    writer: "Popeye the Sailor" based on his comic strip
    12-08-1894 - James Thurber - Columbus, OH - d. 11-2-1961
    writer: "This Is My Best"
    12-08-1895 - Harold Arlin - d. 3-14-1986
    first full time radio announcer in the world, KDKA, Pittsburgh, 1921
    12-08-1898 - Francis Scott Basch - d. 9-11-1997
    news commentator: WAAT Jersey City, New Jersey
    12-08-1904 - George Stevens - Oakland, CA - d. 3-8-1975
    film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-08-1906 - Richard Llewellyn - St. David's, Wales - d. 11-30-1983
    author: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "NBC University Theatre"
    12-08-1907 - Frank Faylen - St. Louis, MO - d. 8-2-1985
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
    12-08-1909 - Elaine Melchior - NYC - d. 10-22-2002
    actor: Ardala Valmer "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century"
    12-08-1910 - Ruth Matteson - San Jose, CA - d. 2-5-1975
    actor: Nicole Scott "Against the Storm"
    12-08-1911 - Lee J. Cobb - NYC - d. 2-11-1976
    actor: the tailgunner "Roosty of the AAF"; "Citizen of the World";
    "Hollywood Startime"
    12-08-1913 - Sarajane Wells - Owensboro, KY - d. 1-11-1987
    actor: Betty Fairchild "Jack Armstrong, the All-American Boy"
    12-08-1914 - Floyd Tillman - Ryan, OK - d. 8-22-2003
    country singer: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Country Music Time"
    12-08-1914 - Mary Patton - Duluth, MN - d. 11-8-1982
    actor: Marie Martel "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"; Lila North "Fat Man"
    12-08-1915 - Ernest Lehman - NYC - d. 7-5-2005
    writer: "Forecast"
    12-08-1916 - Richard Fleischer - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-25-2006
    film director: "The TM Radio Program"
    12-08-1922 - Elkan Allan - London, England - d. 6-25-2006
    writer: "Quiz Time", "Quiz Team"
    12-08-1928 - Jay "Jaybird" Drennan - d. 12-9-2006
    country music disk jockey (Akron, Ohio)
    12-08-1928 - Jimmy Smith - Norristown, PA - d. 2-8-2005
    jazz organist: Won a radio talent contest in Philadelphia at the age
    of 9
    12-08-1933 - Flip Wilson - Jersey City, NJ - d. 11-25-1998
    comedian: "Voices of Vista"
    12-08-1937 - James MacArthur - Los Angeles, CA
    actor: "Theatre Guild of the Air"

    December 8th deaths

    01-21-1921 - Charlotte Manson - NYC - d. 12-8-1996
    actor: Patsy Bowen "Nick Carter, Master Detective"
    01-31-1917 - Fay Baker - NYC - d. 12-8-1987
    actor: "Words at War"
    02-11-1882 - John H. Mills - Bellfonte, PA - d. 12-8-1967
    singer: (Father of the Mills Brothers)  "Mills Brothers Quartette"
    03-02-1914 - Martin Ritt - NYC - d. 12-8-1990
    film director, teacher: "Coming Home"
    03-03-1924 - Cathy Downs - Port Jefferson, Long Island, NY - d.
    12-8-1976
    actor: "Your Movietown Radio Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Mail Call"
    04-26-1898 - David Freedman - Botosani, Romania - d. 12-8-1936
    gag writer for Eddie Cantor
    05-03-1898 - Golda Meir - Kiev, Russia - d. 12-8-1978
    israeli prime minister: "Meet the Press"
    05-04-1903 - Luther Adler - NYC - d. 12-8-1984
    actor: Peter Gentle "Mystery Without Murder"; "Greatest Story Ever
    Told (1938-39)"
    07-12-1903 - Ray Winters - Menomonie, WI - d. 12-8-1978
    announcer: "Kitty Keene"; "The Lamplighter"; "Whispering Streets"
    07-15-1893 - William Dieterle - Rhein-Palatinate, Germany - d. 12-8-1972
    movie director: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    08-19-1922 - Lester Fletcher - Cardiff, Wales - d. 12-8-1989
    actor: "Sherlock Holmes"; "FBI in Peace and War"
    09-13-1900 - Gladys George - Patton, ME - d. 12-8-1954
    actor: "Lincoln Highway"
    09-23-1927 - Virginia McDowall - London, England - d. 12-8-2006
    actor: "Family Theatre"; "NBC University Theatre"
    09-26-1925 - Marty Robbins - Glendale, AZ - d. 12-8-1982
    country/western singer: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Country Style [removed]"; "Big
    Sound"
    10-09-1929 - Harry Harvey - Florida - d. 12-8-1978
    actor: Oogie Pringle "A Date with Judy"
    10-09-1940 - John Lennon - Liverpool, England - d. 12-8-1980
    singer: (The Beatles) "Here We Go Again"
    11-12-1911 - Buck Clayton - Parsons, KS - d. 12-8-1991
    trumpet: "Count Basie and His Orchestra"; "Doctor Jazz"
    11-14-1915 - Martha Tilton - Corpus Christi, TX - d. 12-8-2006
    singer: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Curt Massey-Martha Tilton Program"
    11-28-1941 - Jennifer Rankin - d. 12-8-1979
    writer: "Razorback Mountain Journey"
    12-08-1891 - Percy Crosby - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-8-1964
    "Skippy" a juvenile serial was based on Crosby's comic strip

    Ron

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:25:07 -0500
    From: wallyely1@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Question
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    Long time [removed] time contacting the list.

    Recently have been doctoring for painful foot problems.  All this  brought
    to mind an OTR phrase -- but I can't remember who in radio world used  this
    line.  Any help out there?

    The line is, "Gotta hurry to the wagon boys, these shoes are a-killin'  me!"

    Wally Ely
    _[removed]_ ([removed])

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:25:59 -0500
    From: "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Time Travel

>     FAVORITE STORY, MAYOR OF THE TOWN, CAMPBELL PLAYHOUSE and
>     others did an adaptation of A CHRISTMAS CAROL, which is
>     considered a time travel story.

    One of the most popular stories on 1920s American radio was Dickens' "A
    Christmas Carol." Readings, often with musical accompaniment, go back to at
    least '22 and dramatizations go back to at least '24 (and increased as the
    decade advanced). I went through 1920s radio listings at [removed]
    a few years ago and, without trying very hard, found about forty scheduled
    performances.

    NBC had a 1928-29 anthology series called "Golden Legends" which featured
    dramatized versions of alleged literary classics. Two of the scheduled plays
    were "Carol" and "Rip Van Winkle" (which might qualify as a "suspended
    animation" tale). That's about as close as I can get to a radio drama series
    with more than one time travel story! (I've seen versions of "Rip" scheduled
    in the '20s, too, but I've never tried to count them.)

    Speaking of early radio science fiction, KHJ did a 1924 continuity program
    called "KHJ Caravan to the Moon" in which a group of entertainers shoot for
    the moon and apparently miss. The next day's Los Angeles Times (March 1)
    remarks, "Slight inconsistencies such as launching a projectile from earth at
    a speed of several thousand miles a second, without a tremor, and landing on
    the roof of The Times Building on the return trip a few hours later without
    even a bump, can be overlooked, if the artists and everybody in Radioland
    have a good time." The program was "arranged" by O. G. Pirie who was involved
    in the station's children's programming, and this sounds more like one of the
    fantastic "Fairyland" tales regularly performed for the "kiddies" than
    something you'd read in Hugo Gernsback's "Amazing Stories."

    Does anybody know anything about a 1923 play broadcast from Philadelphia
    called "The Secret Wave" by Clyde A. Criswell? A wire service story that year
    reported that it was "the first radio play." The title makes me wonder if it
    might have had a science fiction theme.

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:26:12 -0500
    From: Steve Darnall <fvpress@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Winter Nostalgia Digest

    I wanted to let everyone know that the new Winter issue of Nostalgia Digest
    Magazine is back from the printer and in stores now. There's a great cover
    photo about The Dick Van Dyke Show and an interview with June Foray, who
    talks about her early radio days and some of her most famous roles. There's
    an excerpt from Martin Grams and Terry Salomonson's upcoming "Green Hornet"
    book, a look at the lives of Nero Wolfe, an overview of Space Age Pop and
    more.

    Additional information is available at [removed]. Feel free
    to browse -- and don't forget to join us this Saturday on "Those Were the
    Days"!

    Steve

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