Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #426
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 11/3/2002 10:26 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 426
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Re: Frontier Town                     [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed]; ]
      Cavalcade of America                  [ Janine Preston <jpreston@makingwavs ]
      New War of the Worlds                 [ "Bob & Bridget Meadows" <bmeado19@i ]
      Radio Crime Fighters Book Now Availa  [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
      Anne Dowd                             [ OsborneAM@[removed] ]
      King, Queen, Ace                      [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Re: WOTW and Bill Murtough's recllec  [ Ejcpoky1956@[removed] ]
      tex chandler                          [ Ronald Staley <mrvintageradio@earth ]
      hash knife hartley                    [ Ronald Staley <mrvintageradio@earth ]
      SPERDVAC moments                      [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Audio Cassette and Reel-to-Reel Tape  [ Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed]; ]
      Clarabell Hornblow                    [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Sperdvac convention                   [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Sandy Singer                          [ "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@ezlin ]
      Armed Services Radio Network          [ Jocelyn Rybicki <rr79315@[removed] ]
      classic radio horrors                 [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      OLD TYME RADIO NETWROK SCHEDULE for   [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:47:29 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

>     >From The History Net --

    1920 The first radio broadcast in the United States is made from
    Pittsburgh.

>     >From Those Were The Days --

    1931 - Myrt and Marge was heard for the first time on CBS. The program
    centered on two chorus girls who competed for the same parts and the
    same men. The creator and writer (Cliff Thomas wrote some) of the
    series, Myrtle Vail, also played the role of Myrt; and the original
    Marge was performed by Vail's daughter, Donna Fick. Three other
    performers played the part when Donna died giving birth. Myrt and Marge
    continued for 11 years.

      Joe

    --
    Visit my home page:
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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:48:52 -0500
    From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Frontier Town

    Ken was interested in:

>     Every episode's end credits so far, sounds like it stars Tex Chandler
>     as Chad Remington.  Is it my hearing, which is usually pretty good, or
>     did "Tex" later change his name to "Jeff?"

    No he had already acted on radio under the name of Jeff Chandler, and
    earlier had acted under his real name Ira Grossel, so the 34 year old
    boy from Brooklyn, was only credited as "your favorite young western
    star Tex Chandler" on "Frontier Town."

>     Who plays his sidekick, Cherokee?  Sounds like [removed] Fields, but
>     obviously isn't.

    Cherokee O'Bannon was played by Wade Crosby, later shows list him in the
    closing credits. The Cherokee character is so much a copy of [removed]
    Fields, down to the drinking and the fear of water in any form, I'm
    surprised the Fields estate didn't sue the producers. Crosby's film and
    TV credits can be found at the Internet Movie Database
    <[removed],+Wade>.

    Can anyone confirm that Earle Ross is the actor playing the character
    Judge Fillmore, whose daughter Libby, Chad plans to marry, but never
    does.

    Gerry Wright
    ZoneZebra Productions
    San Francsico

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:49:14 -0500
    From: Janine Preston <jpreston@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cavalcade of America

    I am trying to locate an episode of Cavalcade of America that was
    broadcast between 1946 and 1948.  It was originally called "Teacher",
    and was about a teacher who brought Christmas to the town of Butternut
    and her school, complete with a tree and hand-made costumes for the
    kids.  The program was written by Kate Phillips who is still active in
    radio, and I'd like to have an excerpt of this show to honor her in our
    live holiday show in December.  Any information about this particular
    program would be greatly appreciated!

    Janine Preston
    wknhradiotheatre@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:49:39 -0500
    From: "Bob & Bridget Meadows" <bmeado19@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  New War of the Worlds
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    I was surprised and somewhat disappointed that there have been no comments on
    Glenn Beck's recent production of The War of the Worlds which aired on
    Halloween Eve. The production, broadcast nationwide, was live with full
    orchestra and followed Orson Wells script faithfully. Production values were
    excellent and I truly enjoyed listening to the program from WOAI in San
    Antonio, TX. My point is that this program could do a lot to promote the OTR
    hobby. If OTR is to survive and be enjoyed in the future when we "older guys"
    are gone, a fresh younger audience must be recruited. Mr. Beck is only 38
    years old and will hopefully be around awhile. Perhaps he and his sponsors
    could be enticed to produce other shows. If you missed Beck's WOTW it is on
    his Insider website. Bob Meadows, Oklahoma City

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:47:43 -0500
    From: otrbuff@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Crime Fighters Book Now Available

    This week my newest book "Radio Crime Fighters" rolled off the McFarland
    presses.

    It's the first time that an attempt has been made to focus on all of
    those heroes and heroines from the aural ether who encountered crime in
    their weekly or daily experiences.  This work covers not just the private
    eyes and police detectives but a wide ranging group of sleuthing
    specialists that included federal agents, insurance investigators,
    journalists, lawyers, mature western figures, espionage spies, amateur
    detectives, state troopers, crime drama anthologies with continuing
    characters and a whole lot more, plus all of the juvenile adventure
    series pertaining to crime fighting including aerial, science fiction,
    western, detective, troubleshooting, jungle, Canadian police and several
    others of that ilk.

    Here's a quote from the blurb that appears on the reverse side of this
    323-page 7x10 hardbound book with pictures:

    "From the early days of radio, producers, directors and scriptwriters
    were well aware of the listening public's fascination with subject matter
    that was tinged with almost any form of wrongdoing.  Stories that
    compared right and wrong, portrayed crime and punishment, and showed the
    characters upholding law and order held the interest of radio audiences
    of every age for more than thirty years.

    "This work covers over 300 radio mystery and adventure series that aired
    through 1962.  To be included in the book, a series must have included
    one or more characters who regularly appeared in occupations or
    avocations that fought against espionage, theft, murder, and other
    criminal activities.  Each entry includes the name of the series, air
    dates (networks and times are noted), the sponsor, number of known extant
    episodes, cast information (such as the directors, writers, composers,
    announcers, lead actors and supporting actors), and a brief synopsis."

    I have attempted to make the material not only authentic but also
    readable, selecting extensive anecdotes to accompany as many entries as
    possible.  Furthermore, there are descriptions that tie the various radio
    series to pulp fiction, comics, movie, television, recording and stage
    productions.  Biographies of numerous actors are included.

    The volume is available for immediate shipment from McFarland & Co., Box
    611, Jefferson, NC 28640.  It may be ordered at 800-253-2187 or
    [removed].  The price is $45 plus $4 shipping.  I trust it
    will make a marvelous addition to the libraries of old time radio
    collectors and researchers of this vast genre for many years to come and
    supply a vital contribution to the hobby itself.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:47:57 -0500
    From: OsborneAM@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Anne Dowd

    I just listened to "Lucky Penny Mine" from the Have Gun,
    Will Travel series.  I was surprised to hear that the episode
    was written by Anne Dowd.  Was she any relation to Gil
    Dowd?  Wife, perhaps?  Dunning doesn't mention her as one
    of the writers.  Anyone  know?

    Arlene Osborne

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:50:56 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  King, Queen, Ace

    Joe Mackey, quoting from Those Were the Days, notes, under birthday,

>     Dale Evans (Frances Butts) singer, (Bergen and McCarthy Show --ed)
>     songwriter: Happy Trails to You; actress: The Roy Rogers Show, Roy Rogers
>     movies; wife of 'King of the Cowboys' Roy Rogers; died Feb 7, 2001

    While Roy Rogers was billed as "King of the Cowboys," Dale Evans was
    billed as "Queen of the West."  Sounds to me as if she had the greater
    sovereignty. :-)

    My favorite OTR title conferred upon a hero was in Sky King.  He was
    billed as "America's Favorite Flying Cowboy."  That title was so
    specialized that I can't think of a legitimate challenger.

    Stephen Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:51:05 -0500
    From: Ejcpoky1956@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: WOTW and Bill Murtough's recllections
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    Sorry to disagree with the renowned Mr. Murtough, who as a broadcast pioneer,
    is a man I admire greatly. But it wasn't just one newspaper who made up the
    story of a "fictional panic". The panic was real, Bill, and was mentioned and
    covered by many,many different sources and news organizations. as well as the
    people associated with the show itself

    You say "There were no hysterical people  on the streets nor in  cars on the
    highways."  Well perhaps not were you were driving, but it did happen
    elsewhere.

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:51:23 -0500
    From: Ronald Staley <mrvintageradio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  tex chandler

    Yes, in fact, one of Jeff Chandler's first roles was that of the
    pseudonym Tex on Frontier Town, when Tex Chandler played Chad Remington.

    Reed Hadley took a turn as well, I understand. I know he was the first Red
    Ryder.

    Ron Staley

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:51:35 -0500
    From: Ronald Staley <mrvintageradio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  hash knife hartley

    Does anyone have any Hash Knife Hartley shows from 1951. I vaguely
    remember the series on radio as a very young boy in San Francisco bay area.
    I lived in the ittle coastal village of Sharps Park, now part of Pacifica,
    California and seem to remember hearing it after Roy Rogers, but am not sure.

    Ron Staley

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:53:09 -0500
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  SPERDVAC moments

    A couple moments of (hopefully) amusement from the SPERDVAC [removed]

    I was going back to my room to look for a document, and I saw a very
    good-looking gentleman asking the registration desk for directions to get
    downstairs.  I waved at him and said, "Just follow me" (not meaning to
    indicate for him to follow me all the way back to my room, of [removed]
    dear, I can hear Hal's comments [removed]).  So he looked at my Jack Benny
    Junior High School sweatshirt and said, "Ah, my old friend Jack Benny."

    We were the only two in the elevator, and I asked, "Did you know Jack?"

    "I was on his show," he replied.

    "Oh?  Which one?" I asked.  I'd spoken with Gary Owens earlier in the day,
    and he told me about a bit part he'd played on the show of which I was
    unaware.

    He responded, "Well, Jack once brought me out and introduced me as his former
    sound man."

    "RAY?!?!?!" I said.

    "Yeah?" he asked, puzzled.

    "I'm Laura Leff!" I said, pumping his hand.

    "Oh my gosh," we said, suddenly realizing that we knew each other.  We both
    completely cracked up.

    So later I'm listening to the KFI panel, and without warning, an amazingly
    loud shot rings out from the hallway.  The person next to me turned and said,
    "I thought they caught the sniper."  Turned out to be Ray Erlenborn
    rehearsing a gunshot for the evening's recreation.  Several people went to
    change their trousers afterwards.

    Many thanks to all the folks from SPERDVAC who are making this a very nice
    weekend.

    --
    Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:54:08 -0500
    From: Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Audio Cassette and Reel-to-Reel Tape

    While I archive my OTR programs to CD, I know that many still use cassettes,
    and some still use reel-to-reel.  A close friend of mine inherited a large
    quantity of both from his deceased father-in-law. He appears to have several
    thousand Sony and TDK audio cassettes that were used to archive radio shows
    from the 80's and 90's - possibly some shows from the 70's.  While the
    content may or may not be of interest, I suspect the cassettes themselves
    might.  The cassettes that I have  ere are Sony Type 1 Normal Bias 90 Minute
    tapes.  I would guess the TDK tapes are of similar quality.

    The reel-to-reel tape is Scotch Master Premium Quality Tape.  There are 3600
    feet on each aluminum reel.  It appears they have been stored in the
    original plastic bag and box.  I'm uncertain how many reels my friend has,
    but I would guess hundreds.   As added bonus, my friend's father-in-law keep
    very detailed typewritten notes about the content of the tapes and reels.
    They usually consisted of holistic medicine talk radio shows and a few music
    shows recorded from NY City radio stations, but I only viewed a few of his
    logs.  Their appearance suggests he used them to record programs, but rarely
    listened to his recordings.

    If you have an interest in finding out more, you may forward your questions
    to him at blesscaesar@[removed].

    Ron Vanover

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:57:41 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Clarabell Hornblow

>     Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:21:11 -0500
>     From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];

>     What is the connection between the clown character "Clarabell Hornblow"
>     (aka "Clarabell Hornblow Clown") on THE HOWDY DOODY SHOW and the character
>     "Clarabelle Hornblow" on THE LONE RANGER? When did Clarabelle Hornblow
>     first appear on THE LONE RANGER?

    I don't know when the character first appeared on the Lone Ranger, but I can tell you that the
    Howdy Doody Show only used the name "Clarabell Hornblow" for a brief time in the early
    1950s.  There have been discussions here in the past about the Lone Ranger character, and
    it sounds as though the LR's friend pre-dated the use of that name on the Howdy Doody
    Show.  The clown originated sometime in 1948, but was just called "Clarabell" (Actually, I
    have a video of an early Howdy Doody episode, in which the clown is repeatedly referred to
    as "she.").  Sometime around 1951 or 1952 or thereabouts, Buffalo Bob occasionally refered
    to him as "Clarabell Hornblow" or "Clarabell Hornblow Clown."  I also remember a Wonder
    Bread tie-in, whereby end-seals from Wonder Bread had pictures of various Howdy Doody
    characters, which could be placed on a wall chart.  The place on the chart for Clarabell
    contained instructions which said, "Put Clarabell Hornblow here."

    But this didn't last very long, no more than I year I would guess.  From previous discussions
    here, I think the Lone Ranger character pre-dated any use of the name "Clarabell Hornblow"
    on the Howdy Doody Show.  I strongly suspect that the Howdy Doody people learned
    (perhaps through a cease-and-desist letter from the LR's owners, perhaps not) of the Lone
    Ranger character and gave up using the name "Hornblow."  I'm quite sure that they were no
    longer using that name by the end of 1953.

    I'm taking the liberty of forwarding this exchange to Jeff Judson, who published the "Howdy
    Doody Times."  Perhaps he or his readers can shed light on this question.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:59:20 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Sperdvac convention

    Back from the convention where it seemed that a good time was had by
    all.  My wife and I certainly did. We got to meet some greats from the
    OTR era and several fellow digesters.
    I got to shake hands and say a few words to Parley Baer and then a few
    minutes later shook hands with Les Tramayne! Also Harold Gould who we
    have admired in TV and movies for so long now.
    The attractive and oh so young Laura Leff was there and was one I had
    wanted to meet. I brought up an episode of Jack Benny that I remembered
    from when I was 13 yrs old and have not heard since, and amazingly she
    came up with the date of the broadcast. Wow!
    The attractive and not so young Hal Stone was there hawking books.  This
    guy is alot bigger than I had imagined so when he twisted my arm to get
    me to buy a book I just had to give in. There's a nice inscription in
    the book which he said was because I am a digester, as opposed to what
    I'm not sure for non digesters. Hal was in a couple of OTR recreations
    and he's .....pretty good : -) .

    I also got to meet Ray Erlenborn and chatted with him and his wife. Nice
    guy and we enjoyed being shot by him. I wonder if he has a permit to
    carry that gun?

    Conrad Binyon was another who was there to take part in a recreation,
    and I told him that he needs to be heard more often on this list,  nice
    fellow.

    Greg Oppenheimer was there and directed a really professional recreation
    of Harry Lime. Most enjoyable.
    And finally thanks to  Dan Haefele and his 11 yr old son Chris (who only
    likes Red Skelton and Baby Snooks on OTR) for making us feel so welcome
    to our first convention.  We have all been to events like this where
    because you are new and unknown to most people, that you just stand
    around alone most of the time. Not the case here. Everybody was most
    friendly and engaged us in enjoyable conversation all through the
    convention.

    George Aust

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    Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:33:25 -0500
    From: "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Sandy Singer

    I enjoyed reading the article in Digest #425 by Sandy Singer.
    Sandy, perhaps you've already done this before, but could
    you list some of the kids / adventure radio shows that you
    worked or starred in? Thanks
    Don Dean

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    Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:19:42 -0500
    From: Jocelyn Rybicki <rr79315@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Armed Services Radio Network

        I have been a lurker for a couple of years and really enjoy the posts
    of those who gave us our memories and the many knowledgable people who
    research the era.  I am just a listener and feel I have nothing to really
    offer the digest. But I do have a question that has never been discussed
    here. There have been many discussions of how the major networks began and
    operated.  But I have never read how the Armed Services Network operated.
    I know that a lot of my shows are from this service and that the
    commercials are cut. It says that these shows are for our service men
    overseas. How was it done? Which countries got the shows?  Which shows were
    chosen?  Was there a schedule of when the shows were aired? Were shows ever
    edited for content? I know some of the shows of the war era would parody
    our enemies.  I am specifically thinking of Eddie Cantor and even the Kraft
    Music Hall Bing Crosby shows.  Were these transmitted overseas in truncated
    versions?  Knowing the quality of the posters here I would bet that I would
    have the answers by tomorrow.  Thanks in advance, Larry Rybicki

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    Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:19:47 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  classic radio horrors

    Does anyone have Michael Ogden's e-mail address?  Is he on this digest?
    I have something that might be of interest and I figured maybe he'd like to
    make a trade . . . seems I don't have his e-mail adress on file.
    Martin

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    Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:19:55 -0500
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OLD TYME RADIO NETWROK SCHEDULE for week
     starting: 11/03/02

    Hi All -  Heres the lineup for this wek starting one week at:
    [removed]        Tune in anytime - in nice sound.

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
    1. HEARTBEAT THEATER (SYND  10/13/68)  "Lost and Found"  stars
    Alan Reed, Jr. and Marvin Miller.   Host: [removed] MacGregor.
    2. I LOVE ADVENTURE   ABC   6/20/48   "The Girl in the Street"  from the
    short 1948 Summer series of I LOVE A MYSTERY 30 minute programs.
    3. THE COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL with Ronald Reagan     NBC #509  7/29/49
    Ronny substitutes for Bill Stern from his room at the St. Joseph Hospital in
    Santa Monica, CA where he is recuperating from a broken leg.

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION wiith Jerry Haendiges
    1. LUX RADIO THEATRE     CBS   3/7/49   "Red River"  stars John Wayne.
    2. THE BIG GUY    8/27/50    "The Case of the Villainous Friend"  stars: John
    Calvin.
    3. THE LAUREL & HARDY SHOW    (Audition)  11/24/43  stars  Stan Laurel
    and Oliver Hardy in    "My Sister's Poultry Market."

    Enjoy ----   Tom & Jerry

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