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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 62


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Us - German technology in WWII 
	 RE: CBS Mystery Series
	 RE: Re: Which college has OTR & Radio Dramas?
	 "Coffin for Studio B"
	 Fred Allen and Orson Welles
	 Bradbury 13
	 Re: Der Fuehrer's Face
	 Where to spend your money
	 CD's and my goof
	 Sound Bites and Scariest
	 Scariest OTR show
	 Actors on Stage?
	 Orson Wlles films
	 Radio archive / Welles
	 Chicago Pizza and Antique Radios
	 REPS Radio Showcase IV - Seattle
	 One Man's Family group [removed]
	 Re: Welles vs Hearst Oscar nominated

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 03:32:00 -0800
From: Hagen <hagen@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Us - German technology in WWII 
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Mark Kinsler wrote:
> that German technology was a heck of a lot better than that of
> the Allies, and had the Nazis not been outnumbered and thoroughly
> overwhelmed at D-Day, they might well have won the whole thing.  The 
> taperecorder was a good example of this.

Luckily your are wrong, the german technology was fortunately not! saying 
that as an 1950-born german. See: the nazi-"U-Boots" haven't had any 
technology to get the radar-scan-frequencies from the allies (43ff); the 
german army did not have radar-device in high-centimeter-wavelength at all 
(with which the british planes could even follow the rivers and 
mountain-ridges by night in 44); the "Uran-Kommission", Heisenberg and 
other physicist didn't find out the technological way to produce atom-bombs 
(what would have been the very devil worst case, as the americans in Los 
Alamos feared in those days); Konrad Zuse's computer got not more than an 
acknowledging laughter from the arming officials, whilst the 
"Colossus"-computer of british Alan Turing cracked the "Enigma"-Codes, 
which were still in use by the german navy, and the germans even didn't 
know that; the scientific research in armament in general was unholy split 
into three idle competencies (army, navy, air-force). If that would have 
been different, I probable couldn't write to you right now as I do.

I guess the reasons for that are not so difficult to understand. The lately 
crucial and decisive techniques deciding the war in favour of the allies 
were based on some very new scientific discoveries, which could be made in 
England and America through an extensive, open, wide civil-scientific and 
military discourse hundreds and hundreds of physicists, technicians etc. 
were into as voluntaries. Whereas the german armament-research excluded 
civilian scientific consultants explicitly except of a few working in 
central institutes. In the Nazi-War the Nazi-Organisations itself smothered 
any scientific research in new basic technologies, [removed] the development of 
high-frequency-tubes, of sub-atomic technologies, of mathematics of 
computers, operations research etc. So instead of working in new 
technologies the germans (my fathers and grandfathers) were perfect in 
organisizing a high developped standard of industrial engineering, which 
probably never before and never again existed in one country so 
concentrated as it was in Hitler-Germany.
So you are right in [removed]
> the Germans had operational turbojets, rocket planes, and
> guided missiles while we were flying P-51 Mustangs.  

... but remember that all V2-rockets shot on London and Antwerpen at the 
end of the war (round about 1000 rockets were fired) took altogether as 
many tons of explosive material as fell down on the german cities through 
the ground-doors of the american bombers in only one night!

So what might remain is the question of the tape-machine. I still don't 
know exactly how this technological advance came about. It has to do 
probably with the advantage german chemical industry has had in WWII which 
was concentrated in the labours of the deep-nazi-dominated BASF and 
"IG-Farben". But this was, as I said, fortunately not decisive.

Wolfgang Hagen, Bremen - Germany

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:02:10 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: CBS Mystery Series
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

OAHi All,
 
<BROACH88@[removed]> wrote:
 
> ... CBS Mystery Theater <snip> I've never seen it in any of the catalogs.  
> Does anyone remember same - or have any information about availablility?
 
Unlike a lot of old time radio, CBSRMT still has a valid copyright.  There
may be other sources but I do know that NARA's lending library has a lot of 
them.  The University of Memphis Radio Program Archive also lists 3 shows 
in their catalog.
 
Frank

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:03:53 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: Re: Which college has OTR & Radio Dramas?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All, 
 
Alex Pissalidis wrote:
 
> So does anyone know which college somewhere in the mid-West, I believe 
> has a large collection of OTR and radio dramas available for listening. 
> My understanding is that somehow one discovers what they have 
> available, then you send them the necessary cassettes and they dub the 
> shows for you!
> 
> Is this for real or a myth?  Any clarifications would be most 
> appreciated!  Thanks in advance.
 
No myth.  It's the University of Memphis.  I believe their catalog and order
info is up on Lou's site (commercial catalogs?).  If you don't have access
to it, try writing to:
 
    University of Memphis Radio Program Archive, Learning Media 
    Center, The University of Memphis, Memphis, TN 38152
 
The deal is as you posted above, plus you send $[removed] with your blank 
cassettes.  Some of the tapes I got from them had audio problems but the 
price is right.  The stuff they have is very varied so it's a neat way to 
sample a lot of different things.
 
Frank
 

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 07:45:55 PST
From: "Bates, Robert" <rbates@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: "Coffin for Studio B"
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The discussion on scary shows brings to mind an interesting bit of foreshadowing 
I once heard on a "Lights Out" episode - "A Coffin for Studio B." (If you have 
never heard this episode, skip this post, because I'm about to give away the 
ending.)

The show has two actors rehearsing a scene. They are both exhausted. At one 
point, one of them says something along the lines of "By the time this over, I'm 
going to be dead." And at the end, of course, he is. Just an witty little  aside 
that makes a good show that much better.

Rob 

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 07:46:01 PST
From: "Bates, Robert" <rbates@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Fred Allen and Orson Welles
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In Fred Allen's book "Treadmill to Oblivion" there's a reprint of a script where 
Orson Welles guest starred on the Allen show. (Is this show in circulation?) 
Portland remarks that Mr. Welles is mad at Fred. Fred retorts, "Why? I had 
nothing to do with Citizen Kane."  Apparently at the time the movie was 
considered something to be ashamed of.  

As for other great Welles movies, I like The Magnificent Ambersons and a really 
weird movie he made in the 50s, Mr. Arkidan.

Rob

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:49:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: JSEXTON@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Bradbury 13
Message-id: <01I18MI0GW9U90NI2O@[removed]>

   I have recently done a search for the availability of the Bradbury 13
audio tapes. My intensive search revealed that Magic Eye published the tapes.
  Unfortunately the tapes are listed as Out-Of-Stock and Out-Of-Print -which
means that they are no longer available. A check with several of the major
distributors including Ingrams,Baker & Taylor,and Nacscorp verified that the
tapes are indeed no longer available commercially. When I finally located the
phone number for Magic Eye - I was sad to find out that no more are they [removed],John Sexton (JSEXTON@[removed])

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:56:56 -0600
From: bensmanm@[removed] (Marvin R. Bensman)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Der Fuehrer's Face
Message-id: <v01540b02ad4907fd109b@[[removed]]>

>The [removed] had propaganda songs, too, but the one I remember best is
>Spike Jones' recording of "Der Fuehrer's Face", written by Oliver Wallace,
>and featured in the Disney Cartoon "Donald Duck in Nutziland".

This cartoon was one of first to win Academy Award.

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*Professor Marvin R. Bensman, [removed], [removed]                              *
*Department of Communication; Office Phone: (901) 678-3174 or 678-2565 *
*University of Memphis        Fax: (901) 678-4331                      *
*Memphis, TN 38152                                                     *
*E-mail: BensmanM@[removed]                                       *
*
*
* See: [removed]  *

************************************************************************

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:00:17 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Where to spend your money
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Somebody asked where they could obtain a video print of "It's A Joke Son".
It is available from:

Foothill Video
[removed] Box 547F
Tujunga, CA  91043
(818) 353-8591

Cost is $[removed] I get confused about P & H from these guys, so I can't say.

You can also obtain this movie from:

Nostalgia Family Video
[removed] Box 606
Baker City, OR  97814
1-800-784-3362

Cost is $[removed] plus $[removed] P & H for the first tape and $[removed] for each additional
tape. They have a permanent buy three and get one free deal.

Both these dealers have a number of OTR related titles. Catalogs are available
from both also. If anybody out there tries Foothill, please, drop me a line
as to service and tape quality. I've never tried them, but I'm tempted.

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Date: 15 Feb 96 11:09:18 EST
From: "Robert I. Scherago" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: CD's and my goof
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

In regard to CD File Size and Lee Maschmeyer's description of sampling,
I must comment:

The sampling rate used for CD's is [removed] This figure was arrived at using 2
times oversampling per channel plus some headroom. Simply put (I hope) the audio
frequerncy range of a CD is standardized as 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz. To accomplish 2
times sampling, that is, to sample a minimum of two points on any audio
waveform, the minimum sampling rate is 40,000 Hz, or two times the highest
frequency. Add the amount needed for the imperfection of the filter and other
considerations, the sampling rate has been standardized at [removed] This is for
each channel of audio. If, in fact, the sampling rate were one-half that for
each of two stereo channels, the highest audio frequency allowable on a CD would
be 10 kHz.

And now to correct my goof of [removed]

The Cream of wheat jingle went
     Cream of Wheat is so good to eat
     You can eat it every [removed]

While we're playing otr trivia - how about trying to identify some otr themes
derived from classical music? For example, everyone thinks of the Lone Ranger
when Rossini's The William Tell overture is played, but how many of us know that
many of the musical bridges come from Lizst's Les Preludes?

Mr. Keen, Tracer of Lost Persons - the theme is Noel Cowards Someday I'll Find
You.

Prokofiev's march from Love for Three Oranges was the theme for The FBI in Peace
and War

And Richard Strauss's Ein Heldenleiben (A Hero's Life) - I think it was the
theme from Mr. District attorney.

How about some more?

Bob Scherago

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:08:10 -0500
From: Robert Kirk <kirk@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sound Bites and Scariest
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>Date: 14 Feb 96 09:31:10 EST
>From: "Robert I. Scherago" <[removed]@[removed]>
>To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed]>
>Subject: Sound Bites and Scariest
>Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
>
[...]
>
>How many of you remember the Let's Pretend jingle:
>     Cream of Wheat is the one to eat,
>     You can eat it every day.
>
[...]

Cream of Wheat is so good to eat,
And we have it every day.
We sing this song, it will make us strong,
And it makes us shout, "Hooray".
It's good for growing babies,
And grownups, too, to eat,
For all the family's breakfast,
You can't beat Cream of Wheat.

And I didn't even like the show.

Bob Kirk

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:01:07 -0800 (PST)
From: jerryp@[removed] (Jerry Piorkowski)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Scariest OTR show
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I would like to nominate a Lights Out episode entitled "Poltergeist"
starring Bea  Benederet as a good candidate for scariest show. Even after
being sensitized to a fair amount of shock and violence in the 90's, it
still scared the daylights out of me and I was too nervous to even pass a
cemetery for quite awhile. Highly suggest listening to it if possible.

Jerry

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:23:46 -0800
From: dennisdm@[removed] (Dennis F DeMarco )
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Actors on Stage?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

This may seem like a dumb question, but I will ask it anyway. When an  
actor appeared in a radio show, did that actor stay backstage (or I 
guess outside of the studio to be correct) until it was time for that 
person to appear? In other words, would Rochester wait "in the wings" 
until it was time to appear and then leave the studio when done?

------New Topic-----
Just picked up a semi-recent bio of Fred Allen. Portland Hoffa is 
mentioned as helping in the preparation for the book. Is she still 
living? If not, does anyone know when she died?

Thanks,

Dennis

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:08:14 -0800 (PST)
From: jnestero@[removed] (John Nesteroff)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Orson Wlles films
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Ack!  I mean Orson Welles.  Orson Welles made a film called The Stranger 
around 1948 ir so i [removed] [removed] was a suspense/thriller.  
A & E reruns it regularly and it's actually pretty good.

-Cliff N.

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:19:44 +0500
From: cbholm@[removed] (c holm)
To: otr@[removed]
Cc: banzai-1@[removed]
Subject: Radio archive / Welles
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Alex Pissalidis>
  I think you are referring to the Radio Archive Homepage at the University
of Memphis.  I've never dealt with them, but evidently you send them ten
tapes, and pick from a list of shows which they dub and send back.  Check
their page for all the details at:

[removed]

Orson Welles Debate>
  Back in DC, my favorite afternoon drive DJ's Don and Mike play that tape
of Orson Welles reading the pea commercial, and I have to say that both
sides are right!  Sure Welles does have a huge ego, and feels he can do no
wrong, but really he was reading *HORRIBLE* copy!  That script is simply
awful, way beneath him.

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:09:17 -0800
From: Mike <mikere1@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Chicago Pizza and Antique Radios
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

If anyone is in the Chicago area and enjoys antique radios and the best 
pizza in the world they should stop into "Starback" in Morton Grove. No 
I'm not the owner. I just love the place. Burt, the owner has an 
impressive collection of antique radios from commercial "stuff" to early 
home brew.

They are located at 8541 Feris Ave. in Morton Grove, IL. You will have a 
hard time finding them in the phone [removed] so just stop in. You can look 
for my QSL card hanging on the wall. Tell Burt, Mike sent you.

Mike D.

mikere1@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:26:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Litwin <glitwin@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: REPS Radio Showcase IV - Seattle
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Mike Sprague of REPS asked me to post this:




        Twisting the Dial in 1946
     REPS Radio Showcase IV - Seattle
            June 27-29 1996

Who will be Twisting with us?
-----------------------------
   A marvelous variety of wonderful guests have 
been extremely kind to REPS during our first
three Showcase Events. Here's a list of many of
these Special Friends we hope will be back with
us for number IV. If you've seen them work
together, you know the exceptional chemistry of
it all. As usual, the brief space permits almost
no biographical information.

*John Archer - The Shadow, #1 Honorary member
*Parley Baer - Chester, everyone's favorite
*Harry Bartell - 10,000 shows, did it all
*Dick Beals - Speedy, at all previous Showcases
*Frank Buxton - actor, author, director
*Stewart Conway - sound effects - still working
*Sam Edwards - Corliss Archer, Gunsmoke +
*Herb Ellis - Dragnet, Jason, great friend
*Ray Erlenborn - sound effects and high energy
*Jim French - KIRO Mystery Playhouse
*Esther Geddes - Keyboard, Princess Melody
*Peter Leeds - Stan Freberg, quick wit
*Merrill Mael - Uncle Fletcher and matresses
*Tyler McVey - Glamour Manor, One Man's Family
*Norma Jean Nilsson - Father Knows Best
*Anne Whitfield Phillips - One Man's Family
*Rhoda WIlliams - FAther Knows Best
*Douglas Young - a real character (actor)

We also have tentative commitments from the
following, first time visitors, with more to come.

Leonard Maltin - Entertainment Tonight
Gil Stratton, Jr. - My Little Margie, Lux, Sports
Art Gilmore - Dr. Christian, Stars over Hollywood

The Program
-----------

   Our Theme for Showcase IV is "Twisting
the Dial in 1946" We will do re-creations of
complete shows and an assortment of 3 15-
minute shows, done together, by the same cast.
There will be panels and other fun surprises.
   We will have new radio drama on Thursday
night, some old and new on Friday night,
and a full day of Old Time Radio on Saturday.
   As usual, we will work hard to see that
everyone has a close encounter of the best kind
with our many performer friends.

Showcase site/Hotel Information
-------------------------------

   Thursday's special taping of new radio will be
at the Museum of History and Industry. All
other Showcase events will be held at the
Overlake Hospital Conference Center - Bellevue.
The Hotel for the Showcase will again be the
West Coast Bellevue, Just three blocks away, with
regular shuttle service. The room rate is $[removed],
including tax. Reservations 206-455-9444


         Information telephone number 206-488-9518
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    Registration: REPS RADIO SHOWCASE IV  June 27-29, 1996
Based on the intimate space, the growing registration and verbal
indications, the Showcase will probably be a sell-out. There will 
be some seating advantages for early registrations.

Thursday night program only     no-charge
Friday Evening only             $[removed] per person  $__________
Saturday Daytime program only   $[removed] per person  $__________
Saturday Evening Program only   $[removed] per person  $__________
Entire Program                  $[removed] per person  $__________
                                    TOTAL          $__________

(PLEASE LIST ALL NAMES FOR NAME BADGE PURPOSES)

Saturday includes a continental breakfast and refreshments throughout
the day, plus beverages at the social hour. The banquet is included for
the Saturday evening and the Entire program reservations.

Name(s)_____________________________________________Phone_______________
Name(s)_________________________________________________________________
Address_________________________________________________________________
       _________________________________________________________________

Maps and a schedule of events will be sent to all registrants within two
weeks of Showcase IV.
Mail to: REPS Radio Showcase, 9936 NE 197th Street, Bothell, WA. 98011

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:28:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Litwin <glitwin@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: One Man's Family group [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Mike Sprague of REPS asked me to post this:

           ANNOUNCING THE FORMATION OF
          THE "ONE MAN'S FAMILY" FAMILY
A special interest club is being formed for those with interest in
"One Man's Family."

A number of fans and former cast members have responded very positively
to the idea of such a group. Carlton Morse's widow, Millie Morse was 
also quite upbeat, commenting "It seems especially appropriate since
One Man's Family was recently inducted into the Broadcast Hall of Fame.
I'm all for it."

According to co-organizer Mike Sprague, "The purpose is to link together
the large number of people who loved or love One Man's Family, and to
preserve the marvelous history associated with this long running program.
Just how all of that will come together is sort of like a Polaroid picture
just out of the camera. It isn't totally clear, but it is coming into
focus."
Sprague is a founding member and past president of the Radio Enthusiasts
of Puget Sound. (REPS)

The Family anticipates involvement in such things as:
*  Collecting and sharing stories and experiences of everyday fans about 
   their meetings with cast members, Carlton Morse or ? And it might be
   interesting to hesr about how OMF entered into members lives, families,
   etc.
*  Specific memories and experiences of any actor or other professional
   associated with OMF. These should be recorded on audio and video tape in
   as short a time frame as possible and excerpts shared with the membership.
*  "Family Ties" newsletter to link up everyone.
*  A "Family Reunion" probably connected to one of the existing OTR conventions.
*  It may be that thereis a willing and dedicated librarian out there that 
   would want to develop a complete master lending library, under the auspices
   of The Family.
*  Production of a definitive log with more detail than anything previously
   done.

Co-organizer Gary Polich, a major aquisitions member of REPS, indicated 
"We are presently attempting to make contact with any professional who 
participated in the show in any fashion. Input from all sources will really
be appreciated."
Addresses and/or telephone numbers can go to either Polich or Sprague.

Charter Membership Dues $[removed]

Charter members will receive: 1. A Charter Membership card 2. ongoing
updates, and 3. the first newsletter by April 1. This is seed money from
real OMF fans. Performers and others associated with the show should send 
no membership fee. Anyone who can, and will, should feel free to send
donations to help the launch.

Checks to OMMF to Sprague below. For anything else, contact either of the
co-organizers.

Mike Sprague                                  Gary Polich
PO Box 723                                    4611 NE 110th
Bothell, WA. 98041                            Seattle, WA. 98125
Phone 206-488-9518                            Phone 206-365-7131
FAX   206-402-6988                            FAX   206-368-5532

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:43:47 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Welles vs Hearst Oscar nominated
Message-Id: <v01520d00ad484aef9f23@[[removed]]>

As a former public television producer I just *couldn't* let this pass:

amo@[removed] (Arlene M Osborne +1 +1 508 960 6273) wrote:

>the American Experience program that aired on A&E

NO NO NO NO NO! It was on public television, *not* A&E!
(Sorry, I was hyperventilating there. I'll sit down and rest now, thank you
very much.)

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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