Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #12
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Date: 1/13/2006 4:19 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 12
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Will Rogers for President             [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
  Sept. 30, 1962                        [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
  Paul Rhymer photo needed              [ benohmart@[removed] ]
  Life With Luigi Project Begins        [ <cooldown3@[removed]; ]
  Meeting Mr. Lincoln                   [ "JAMES NIXON" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
  Memorable program openings            [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
  Howdy Doody for President             [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  1-13 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  John Wesley Hardin                    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Studio Recordings "Record"            [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
  Howdy Doody's Presidential Campaign   [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  Circus show?                          [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:23:52 -0500
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Will Rogers for President

Anthony Tollin wrote:

Yes, Will Rogers around a decade earlier.  If I recall correctly, he carried
the District of Columbia (or at least that is claimed in THE WILL ROGERS
FOLLIES).

This is a joke that needs to be explained.  In Will Rogers' time the 
District of Columbia did not get to vote for Presdient, it had no votes in 
the Electoral College.  This changed in the 1960s, so now someone actually 
does carry [removed] in every Presidential election.

I suppose an equivelent joke today would be saying someone carried Puerto 
Rico, American Samoa or Guam in the 2004 election.

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:00:20 -0500
From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sept. 30, 1962

  Would like to know what readers of the digest did after the last OTR show
had been broadcast. Would be interesting to know if any went to radio
stations to get the transcriptions before they were stored or thrown away.
Were there already a lot of shows on cassette tapes after the last shows on
September 30, 1962? What became of the sound effects men at the end of OTR?
Know TV was main reason for demise of OTR but what other developments may
have had a part.
  Andrew Godfrey

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:01:01 -0500
From: benohmart@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Paul Rhymer photo needed

Hi. Some of you may know of the upcoming book on Vic and Sade coming later this 
year from cast member Bill Idelson (as well as his autobiography called Gibby). I'm 
VERY excited about this book - which has been needed for a Long time - as it's a first 
person account, with Lots of great script excerpts and behind the scenes stuff. I expect 
to put up ordering info and the V&S cover on the website below next week. 

Meantime, Bill is seeking a photo of Paul Rhymer to use in the book. He has several of 
Paul with celebrities, but was seeking a solo shot. If someone has one we could use, 
please let me know by email. 8x10 prefered, not a clipping from a magazine or 
newspaper. I'll tell you in an email where to send or how to scan it. Thanks much!

Ben Ohmart

Old radio. Old movies. New books.
[removed]

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:59:41 -0500
From: <cooldown3@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Life With Luigi Project Begins

Hi All,

I think I have now sent put the Our Miss Brooks Project copies to everyone
who contributed to it. Thank you for your valuable help.

I am beginning the Life With Luigi Project now and estimate based on the
brooks set that it will take about 6 months.

If anyone would like to participate by sending in a copy of all of the Life
With Luigi in their collection I will return a set of the completed project
as soon as it is possible.

Thank you to all listers who participated in the brooks project. We managed
to collect and identify 193 different shows and also complete and send out
an episodic log with accurate dates for all circulating shows along with the
disc.
Cheers,
Patrick

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:22:53 -0500
From: "JAMES NIXON" <ranger6000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Meeting Mr. Lincoln

Buck Saunders (with a name like that, he ought to have been a western movie
hero) suggests that The Lone Ranger met either Abe Lincoln or President
Grant during his fictional radio career.  He never actually meets Grant by
name in the Black Arrow series.  The president is only referred to by his
title, but the year is known and it can only be Grant.  Later, Grant asks
his help in the Iron Spur series as well.
But I don't remember from any of the transcriptions I have or the programs I
remember growing up if he ever supposedly encountered Abe Lincoln.  Lincoln
didn't travel west after the Civil War began, so it would have had to be
during his "rail-splitting" days.  The Ranger does save President Hayes'
life during a presidential trip to Kansas in the late 1870's.  Does anyone
recall any Lone Ranger stories involving meeting Abe Lincoln?

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:55:14 -0500
From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
To: Old Radio <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Memorable program openings

A former Boston newspaperman would sometimes begin his column with "I was
just thinking." Well, I was just thinking about memorable radio program
openings, and came up with these three. I'm sure there are more.

- -------------------------------------------------

"As a bullet seeks its target, shining rails in every part of our great
country are aimed at Grand Central Station, heart of the nation's greatest
city. Drawn by the magnetic force of the fantastic metropolis, day and night
great trains rush toward the Hudson River, sweep down its eastern bank for
140 miles, flash briefly by the long red row of tenement houses south of
125th Street, dive with a roar into the two-and-one-half-mile tunnel which
burrows beneath the glitter and swank of Park Avenue, and then ... (sound
effect of a train pulling into the station) ... GRAND CENTRAL STATION!
Crossroads of a million private lives! Gigantic stage on which are played a
thousand dramas daily!"

- ----------------------------------------------------

"There he goes across the street into the drugstore, steps on the scale,
height: 6 feet, weight: 290 pounds, fortune: Danger.  Who is
it?  THE FAT MAN."

- ----------------------------------------------------

"The Shadow, who aids the forces of law and order, is in reality Lamont
Cranston wealthy young man-about-town. Years ago in the Orient, Cranston
learned a strange and mysterious secret, the hypnotic power to cloud men's
minds so they cannot see him. Cranston's friend and companion, the lovely
Margo Lane, is the only person that knows to whom the voice of the invisible
Shadow belongs."

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:43:32 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Howdy Doody for President

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:36:40 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];

Howdy Doody's bid to be elected "president of all the boys and
girls of America" was  probably largely a TV affair. I never heard
any episodes of the contemporaneous  "Howdy Doody" radio show to
know if this campaign spilled over from TV and onto the radio.

I don't believe it did.  Howdy Doody ran for President of the Kids
twice, once in 1948 and once in 1952.  There was no Howdy Doody radio
show in 1948.  I'm not sure when it started, but I believe it started
after the 1952 election.  It lasted until Buffalo Bob's heart attack
in 1954.

I've just sent a question to the head of the Doodyville Historical
Society, Howdy's fan and collector's club.  I'll pass on any further
information I get.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:31:46 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1-13 births/deaths

January 13th births

01-13-1884 - Sophie Tucker - Russia - d. 2-9-1966
singer: (The Last of the Red Hot Mammas) "Sophie Tucker and Her Show"
01-13-1901 - A. B. Guthrie - Bedford, IN - d. 4-26-1991
author, screenwriter: "NBC University Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-13-1903 - Charles Kullman - New Haven, CT - d. 2-8-1983
singer: "The Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"
01-13-1903 - Kay Francis - Oklahoma City,  Oklahoma Territory - d.
8-26-1968
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-13-1909 - Danny Barker - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-13-1994
jazz guitar: "This Is Jazz"
01-13-1910 - Jack Mercer - d. 12-4-1984
actor: Popeye "Popeye the Sailor"
01-13-1913 - Jeff Morrow - New York, NY - d. 12-26-1993
actor: "Electric Theatre"
01-13-1913 - Lloyd Bridges - San Leandro, CA - d. 3-10-1998
actor: "Suspense"; "Arch Oboler's Plays"
01-13-1914 - Stanley Waxman - Ohio - d. 9-27-1998
actor: "Escape"; "Man Called X"; "Tell It Again"; "Presenting Charles
Boyer"
01-13-1918 - Steve Dunne - Northampton, MA - d. 9-2-1977
actor: Sam Spade "Advs. of Sam Spade"
01-13-1919 - Robert Stack - Los Angeles, CA - d. 5-14-2003
actor: "Family Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
01-13-1925 - Gwen Verdon - Culver City, Los Angeles, CA - d. 10-18-2000
actress, singer, dancer: "Stagestruck"; "WOR Diamond Jubilee"
01-13-1930 - Frances Sternhagen - Washington, [removed]
actress: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

January 13th deaths

02-02-1882 - James Joyce - Dublin, Ireland - d. 1-13-1941
author: "NBC University Theatre"
02-09-1915 - Charlotte Holland - d. 1-13-1997
actress: Nita Bennett "Lone Journey"; Nora Drake "This is Nora Drake"
02-26-1922 - Margaret Leighton - Barnt Green, England - d. 1-13-1976
actress: "Variety Playhouse"; "Pocket Theatre"
03-16-1859 - Alexander Popov - Turinsk Districk, Russia - d. 1-13-1906
One of the claimants for inventor of radio (along with Marconi and de
Forest)
04-10-1897 - Eric Knight - Menston, England - d. 1-13-1943
writer: "Everyman's Theatre"
04-21-1914 - Norman Panama - Chicago, IL - d. 1-13-2003
writer: "Pepsodent Show starring Bob Hope"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-11-1911 - Doodles Weaver - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-13-1983
comedian: (Brother of Pat Weaver) Professor Feedlebaum "Spike Jones
Show"
07-09-1881 - Samuel "Roxy" Rothafel - Stillwater, MN - d. 1-13-1936
emcee: "Roxy's Gang"; "Roxy Revue"
07-13-1934 - Philip Crosby - California - d. 1-13-2004
actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
07-22-1908 - Shirley Howard - d. 1-13-1988
singer: "Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou"
09-13-1880 - Jesse L. Lasky - San Francisco, CA - d. 1-13-1958
film producer, host: "Gateway to Hollywood"
09-23-1889 - Don Bestor - Longford, SD - d. 1-13-1970
bandleader: "Nestle Program"; "Jack Benny Program"
11-04-1896 - Harry Woods - North Chelmsford, MA - d. 1-13-1970
compser: "Great Moments to Music"
12-22-1901 - Andre Kostelanetz - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 1-13-1980
conductor: "Chesterfield Hour"; "Light Up Time"; "Pause That Refreshes"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:21:28 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  John Wesley Hardin
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I'd like to thank Jim Nixon, Dave Parker, and Paul Urbahns for answering my
question about the famous historical folks who crossed paths with the Lone
Ranger. One of the personages on Paul's list was:

06/12/44 #1778/ 998 John Wesley Hardin  (Biography Series).

My only knowledge about John Wesley Hardin comes from a Bob Dylan song in
which he refers to Mr. Hardin as "a friend of the poor," and a series of
late-night TV ads for a Time-Life series of books about the American West from
about twenty years ago in which the ad's voice-over intoned that "John Wesley
Hardin was so ornery, he once shot a man for snoring too loud."

Let's hope he didn't try that with the Lone Ranger.

Hi-Ho, Ether!

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:15:19 -0500
From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Studio Recordings "Record"

(Bing Crosby) made 1668 studio [removed] is more than anyone else in
history

I don't think so. Pioneer recording artists Billy Murray and Henry Burr did
more than 3,000 studio recordings; Vernon Dalhart probably the same.

Any fellow 78 collectors out there with the correct statistics?

BILL KNOWLTON

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:41:25 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Howdy Doody's Presidential Campaign

Reliable sources tell me that the Howdy Doody radio show started on
15 December 1951.  It ended in 1954 when Buffalo Bob had a heart
attack.  That means that Howdy's 1952 Presidential campaign most
likely did spill into the radio show.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:40:45 -0500
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Circus show?

On Thursday, January 12, 2006, at 06:18 PM, "Trav" wrote:

I'm tring to solve a mystery of a recording I have -
I'm not sure if it was a cut-down show, or was it some
kind of special.  The ABC discs were titled "Circus
Story" (8/31/49), and it runs about 15 minutes.

Other than the ABC citation, this sounds a little like "Ted Drake,
Guardian of the Big Top" which was sometimes called "Circus Detective."
It aired from June to September 1949 from Mutual's affiliate in
Nashville, as "Superman's" summer replacement.  It was a half hour
show, transcribed on two 15 minute disks each.

Bob Slate, a west coast OTR collector, has located some of these disks
and distributed copies.  Jim Widner has one episode for downloading on
his web site if you'd like to compare it with what you have on your
disk.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL

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