Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #371
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 11/19/2001 8:31 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2001 : Issue 371
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Radio Preachers                   [ "Vince Long" <vlongbsh@[removed]; ]
  Modern Radio Acting                   [ SeptSev@[removed] ]
  Raymond Edward Johnson                [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Who played Aunt Jenny?                [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  MP3 Player                            [ nicoll <nicoll@[removed]; ]
  Re: Airchecks -- correction           [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
  extra WOY and UWS issues              [ Ben Ohmart <bloodbleeds@[removed]; ]
  Re:FDR's Fireside Chats               [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
  XM Radio                              [ "Scott business" <[removed]@worldne ]
  Re:new XM Radio Service               [ "Randy Spurlock, [removed]" <randys@usit ]
  OTR Actors in Film/TV                 [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
  Re: Thank You Elizabeth               [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
  Re: Unreleased shows                  [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
  Jay Hickerson's [removed]               [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  XM Radio                              [ Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed] ]
  JOHNNY ROVITINI/ABBIE'S IRISH ROSE    [ "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
  Re: Old TV Shows                      [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
  Jan Miner on TV this week             [ dougdouglass@[removed] ]
  Bill Lipton, actor                    [ khovard@[removed] ]
  Edith McCune, "Laughing Radio Girl"   [ Merlin Haas <mvhaas@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:44:40 -0500
From: "Vince Long" <vlongbsh@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Radio Preachers

In a recent digest, Gary Hagan wondered:

does anyone out there remember a broadcast preacher named
Curtis Springer?  He used to play gospel songs on the record
player and pretend the artists were in the room and introduce
them as such.  He was broadcasting from a place in California
I believe called Sizex Mineral Springs.

Yes, having grown up in the Los Angeles basin I heard this guy for years.
It was great radio as I recall, an absurd sort of comedy if you could take
it that way.  His town, spelled "Zzyzx," is still there, though now owned by
the state university system.  It's in the desert between Los Angeles and Las
Vegas.

For those wanting more information, check out this link:

[removed]

Vince

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:46:08 -0500
From: SeptSev@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Modern Radio Acting

Friends:

Re: the question of modern radio acting, good or bad?

I would humbly suggest that when we ask this question, we may be trying to
compare apples and oranges.  Modern radio drama is just that--modern.  And
the best of it can be very good.  (I for one loved the ZBS productions.)
Radio from the "golden age"  can't be compared to modern radio, just as
acting from the 30's and 40's really can't be judged against the standards of
today.

For example, there are many performances in "golden age" films that would be
considered over the top by the standards of today.  It doesn't mean we don't
love them and value them, but they must be judged by their times.  The acting
in PUBLIC ENEMY and in THE GODFATHER is very different.  But they are both
classic films, and one isn't good and the other bad.

In radio, Welles' MERCURY THEATRE came from a theatrical tradition.  Although
Welles really learned, masterfully, how to use the microphone, his
productions were paced very much like the theatre of his day.  Today, a
modern audience might find his product slow, and perhaps even melodramatic.
That was then and this is now.

Another problem with modern radio is the definition of what it is.  When
modern productions try and recreate the golden age style, they are setting
themselves up for failure, unless the entire purpose is a loving, even campy,
look backwards.  Perhaps this is what people mean when the refer to bad
acting today.

As someone who has stood on stage, and in front of a camera, and voiced for
animation, I can attest to the differences in style that everyone of these
productions require.  Modern radio drama acting also has it's own style, and
should be judged by the times we are in, not the wonderful golden age that we
all on this forum love and respect.

Kind Regards

Thom Bray


[ADMINISTRIVIA: Ok, folks, I think this discussion of modern radio acting has
gone on quite long enough, eh?  --cfs3]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:46:28 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Raymond Edward Johnson

I'm in the midst of working on a biography about Raymond Edward Johnson, the
star of INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES, and supporting actor for numerous radio
programs like Cavalcade of America, Suspense, and Meeting at Midnight, who
sadly passed away a few months ago.  In doing so, I'm searching for any
recorded interviews people may have had with Johnson.  I know he did at
least two with John Dunning (and I don't have those) but there might be many
more (perhaps even a Q&A panel at the FOTR in the past?)...

If anyone has any, and can make a copy for me, I'll be more than glad to
reimburse $.
Many thanks!
Martin Grams

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:46:52 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Who played Aunt Jenny?

This posting is for anyone out there, but Jim Cox especially, since he wrote
a book for McFarland about Radio Soap Operas.

THE ADVENTURES OF ELLERY QUEEN
Episode #244  "Ellery Queen, Cupid"  Broadcast on October 3, 1945.
Guest armchair detective: "Aunt Jenny"
Written by Anthony Boucher and Manfred B. Lee.
Announcer: Don Hancock, sponsored by Anacin.
Plot: Ellery tries to discover which of the veterans who frequent a creative
arts studio, for returning servicemen, is sending anonymous love notes to a
plain woman who works there.

Although the script did not specify who was "Aunt Jenny" on that episode,
both Edith Spencer and Agnes Young played the role on the radio series of
the same name, throughout the years.
My question is this.  Who (name of actress) was playing "Aunt Jenny" on the
sopa opera in early October of 1945?  Spencer? Young? or someone else?

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:47:05 -0500
From: nicoll <nicoll@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 Player

While DXing last night I settled on KMOX, St. Louis.  They were
interviewing Santoch Patel, president Bantam Interactive Technologies,
Inc., a St. Louis based firm.  They've come out with a new MP3 (Bantam
BA350) player that's getting rave reviews.

To learn more about this player go to:
[removed]

Will Nicoll

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:47:24 -0500
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:  Airchecks -- correction

    On my posting in #368 ("Re: Airchecks") re Tom K's Aircheck Factory and
its catalog (including OTR)which is accessible when you "join": I'd goofed.
I'd typed the last part of the http link as two words instead of one word.
I always proofread my postings and e-mails before sending them but that
error got by me. Sorry.
Should be:   [removed]
    -- Phil C.

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:47:43 -0500
From: Ben Ohmart <bloodbleeds@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: extra WOY and UWS issues

Hi. I recently came into some extra, mint copies of
long out of print World of Yesterday and Under Western
Skies magazines, which have a great deal of info and
pictures about old time radio, old movies and western
pictures. If you'd like a list, let me know. Thanks.

=====
Check out Fibber McGee's Scrapbook, a new otr book!
[removed]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:47:56 -0500
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:FDR's Fireside Chats

Does anyone know where I can get some information
on the famous FDR Fireside Chats?  A friend of mine is
researching Franklin Roosevelt and the effect he had on
the American people during his time in  office.

How many of these chats were broadcast?  Any dates
would be appreciated.

How many are currently available?

Are there any web sites where further information can be
obtained?

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:48:08 -0500
From: "Scott business" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: XM Radio

Randy Collins mentioned that he email XM wondering about the omission of OTR
from their channel listings. I got a reply back from Andrea giving me a
vague "no plans but will consider you request" type response. I let them
know that if they get an OTR channel I'll sign up but until then they've got
nothing that I can't get on a 24 hour basis right here in Phoenix.

Scott

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:48:46 -0500
From: "Randy Spurlock, [removed]" <randys@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:new XM Radio Service

	Randy Collins asked in the last OTR Digest about the omission
of OTR from the new XM Satellite service. Unless they have it hidden
in some way, I don't see it there either. However, it is featured on
the competing service, Sirius Radio <[removed]>. This
service is more, however, listed at $[removed] per month currently. It's
also not yet available apparently. Their web-site seems also not
quite ready for prime-time with several pages having problems
downloading. I wasn't able to access the timeline due to problems, so
I can't say for certain when their service will be available, other
than "real soon now".
	The Sirius Radio service is supposed to include the Radio
Spirits channel, so I would assume it would have exclusive rights to
all the shows we care anything about ;-) . Interestingly, they
mention "old time radio dramas" but don't mention comedies,
presumably just an over-reading of their statements.

Randy

--
Randy Spurlock, [removed]
Sevierville, TN
mailto:randys@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:49:06 -0500
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Actors in Film/TV

Bryan<Ga6string@[removed]; writes:

...For my own enjoyment, I'm interested in researching
and compiling the radio, TV and film appearances of
various character actors who were prominent in
OTR

Bryan,

The number of OTR actors that also appeared in films/TV are many,
and the number of them who also appeared on stage.  As
the case may be they all had to be members of the various
unions involved, AFRA, SAG, and Actor's Equity who may or may
not maintain lists of those members affiliated with the other
unions.  What the three unions had in common were discounts in
affiliation fees if already a member of one.

What would be the easiest I suppose would be to ask the Digest
readers what OTR actors they are aware of who've appeared in
films they've seen.  I'll start with Ira Grossel who was as most
must know Jeff Chandler.  The others [removed]


CAB
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:49:26 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Thank You Elizabeth

Elizabeth,

For years, I have been searching for a children's show I remember listening
to as a child with Greg McDonald. No one could tell me anything about it. I
when to the search engine you mentioned at the LOC and here is what I found.

Shelf no.
       RWB 7641 B3-4
  Title
       Story shop
  Date
       Broadcast : 05/29/1948
  Time
       9:00 [removed]
  Medium
       Radio broadcast
  Source
       NBC
  Recording Note
       Duplicated from an NBC radio program broadcast of May 29, 1948; 9:00
[removed]:30 [removed]
  Summary
       Greg McDonald provides fun and adventures.
  Genre(s)
       Children's programs--Radio
  Name(s)
       McDonald, Greg.
  Physical Item
       RWB 7641 B3-4. 1 sound reel : [removed], double-track ; 10-inch,
1/4-inch (polyester).
       Recording Laboratory 1988. Duration: 003000. Collection/Donor name:
NBC Radio
       Collection.
  Local
       check name, genre

Based on what is listed above, is there anyway I could get a copy of this
tape or at least listen to it?

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:50:07 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Unreleased shows

Ted Davenport talked about people that will trade a show as long as it goes
no further. Ted, why would someone want a show kept uncirculated? What
happens when the person who first gave out the show is no more. What
happens to your collection or for that matter my collection, when we are no
more.

I'd hate to see all the collections end up in the Smithsonian or Library of
Congress. Better they go to OTR clubs and be heard by members.

My goal is not to get rich by selling shows. My goal is to get rich by
producing new programs and bringing back radio drama. Whether it be on
radio or distributed on cassette and CD.

As a devoted radio listener back in the days when these shows were on the
radio, I'd love to see programs that are stored away somewhere, see the
light of day. My Captain Midnight decoder is a one item, item. If I sell it
or give it away, I no longer have it. But, if I sell or trade a radio
program, is still have it to listen to. I really can't see why anyone would
keep a show from being heard. To my naive mind it is kind of dumb.

Ah, probably copyright issues. Again. Dumb. What good does it do if it
can't be heard because of some copyright issue. It is kind of like the
movie Song of the South. You can't buy it or see it in the United States.
But if you go to England, you can buy a video of it in PAL format. But, you
then have to bring it to a company like mine to have it converted so you
can play it on an NTSC VCR.

A lot of people have been buying that movie recently. Maybe certain radio
shows have to make a trip around the world to be heard. (Good grief Fred,
what have you started now.)

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:01:35 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Jay Hickerson's [removed]

Fred Berney commented on the fact that entries in Jay's book sometimes are
not from original sources.  If they were, that would be a tremendous feat
for anyone!  His book is my bible for shows in circulation, and he has done
a great work for us.
    One other caution, however, is that when you try to find a particular
show, even tho the source(s) are listed, that is no guarantee that you will
actually find it.  A few years ago, I tried to locate a small run of a
series and contacted the only person listed in Jay's book.  Never got an
email or postal reply.  And I tried twice, just in case.

Ted Kneebone
1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344
OTR:  [removed]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:02:11 -0500
From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: XM Radio

Randy Collins says: I know the "rights" issues and so on; but this is
obviously a first-class, multi-million dollar operation here;

Randy,
If you look at their programming, like radio, it's all low cost.
The music channels only require the standard performance license,
just like a radio station.

The talk and news channels are simply carriages of programs already
being produced.  If they carry the same commercials as the original,
then the producers get more exposure for their sponsors.

For OTR, it would mean determining who actually does have the
rights and then dealing with the many different rights holders,
not a cheap or quick proposition.

If you look closely, you will notice all most no modern audio
drama, because it would cost too much to assemble and
broadcast that either.  They will carry content from the [removed]
Theatre Works.

  Henry Howard - moderator of  radiodrama@[removed]
770 923 7955                   [removed]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:02:48 -0500
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: JOHNNY ROVITINI/ABBIE'S IRISH ROSE

Will the person who posted the web site for Johhny Rovitini a couple months
ago, pleaae contact me off-digest, as I misplaced it, and need it for an
up-coming artice in our NL. Thanks.
***********************************************************************
Also, is the estate of Ann Nichols holding on to the Abie's Irish Rose
program.  There are only 4 programs in circulation, and how they got there
is a mystery, and I know that somewhere, in someone's private (hoarding?)
library there are other AIR programs to be found.  Where are they?
(Elizabeth, can you help?)

Owens

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:06:18 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Old TV Shows

I know this is radio and TV is a naughty word, but I have a collection of
1960 and 1970s TV shows that I recorded directly off the air back in those
years. Email me for a list.

We now return control back to your radio.


[ADMINISTRIVIA: Consider this an official statement of the OTR Digest -
"Television" is not a bad word, nor is it the enemy. Before you scoff, ask
the folks who worked in radio, and went on to work in television.

Honest, folks, you can use the word here without being embarassed.  --cfs3]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:06:36 -0500
From: dougdouglass@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jan Miner on TV this week

Jan appears in "Golden Years" on "Law and Order" airing Tuesday, the
20th, at 11:00 PM ET on A&E. She discovers a body in this episode, which
first aired in 1994.

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:07:39 -0500
From: khovard@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bill Lipton, actor

Actor Bill Lipton (Let's Pretend, Road to Life etc.) died in Portland, OR
after a 40 year battle with Parkinson's disease.

(New York Times, Nov, 1, 2001

Howard Blue

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:24:22 -0500
From: Merlin Haas <mvhaas@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Edith McCune, "Laughing Radio Girl"

     This may be too obscure even for the many experts on this list,
but I ran across the following advertisement while doing research in
the local weekly newspaper from 1926:

     "As a special attraction at the Grand next Tuesday and Wednesday
nights, Edith McCune, the "Laughing Radio Girl" and other artists in
person will present high class singing and vaudeville numbers in
costume. You have heard these artists from stations KYW, WQJ, WBCN,
and WHT--now meet them "face to face." Complete change of program
each night. On account of the added expense of securing these artists
for your special amusement, prices on these nights will be 30¢ for
adults and 10¢ for children."

      I don't recognize the name or any of the call letters. Was this
a purely local radio "star"  from downstate Illinois or does anyone
else have any more information? I find it interesting that performers
were capitalizing on their radio fame this early.

best -- Merlin Haas

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