Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #75
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 3/6/2001 6:34 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 75
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     Re: Culture                          [Walt Appel <Waltman@[removed];     ]
     Streaming OTR                        ["Mary Anne Burkhalter" <characterst]
     Big Inch Land Co.                    ["Jerry Williams" <mrj@[removed];  ]
     Shocking Coincidence                 ["H. K. Hinkley" <hkhinkley@[removed]]
     benny and the shark                  [eddie ginsburg <eddieg100@[removed]]
     Re:OTR & future generations          [Sam Levene <srl@[removed];      ]
     Smith Ballew and Nick Lucas          [Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed];]
     OTR Still On the Air                 [Udmacon@[removed]                    ]
     Little people in the radio           ["A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed].]
     Unshackled                           ["Read G. Burgan" <rgb@[removed]]
     RADIO/TV: A COMPARISON               ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
     Scarlet Queen -- the lost episodes?  ["Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];    ]
     Goldbergs Cylinder Recording         [joseph <joseph@[removed];            ]
     ... That's the way it was ...        ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     Re: Death and the media              [LBohall@[removed]                    ]
     OTR VERSUS TV                        ["stephen jansen" <stephenjansen@ema]
     New classification?                  ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     [removed] Fields on Bergen/McCarthy       ["Robert Fells" <rfells@[removed];   ]
     People in the radio                  ["Frank Phillips" <frankphi@hotmail.]
     Jumping the Media                    ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     Big Band 24-hours a day in the Bay A [Duane Wadsworth <dwadsworth@wadswor]
     More old stye radio still on the air ["Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed]]
     Snacks                               [Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]]

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    Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:33:08 -0500
    From: Walt Appel <Waltman@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Culture

    You know, I wonder if, many years ago, people were disgruntled with
    another entertainment medium that was done away with by a modern
    innovation.

    Radio may not have killed Vaudeville but it sure had a lot to do with
    the demise.  Think about it, just about every single community had a
    theater and every single one of them did business, the size of it
    depending on the circuit.  People needed entertainment and all they had
    to do was buy a ticket and see just about every act imaginable and on
    top of that the bill changed on a regular basis!  (Well, I'm sure some
    of the acts were seen several times in the course of a year).  The
    advent of film didn't hurt the medium either.  Films were just
    incorporated into the show.  Now you could see Fink's Mules, Jack Benny,
    Jim and Marian Jordan in person and Tom Mix on a screen.  (Tom Mix was
    played by Bruce Willis, right?)

    Now imagine a new medium coming to life in the entertainment world.  A
    medium where actors don't have to travel from town to town, can settle
    down in one spot and make regular wages, not based on an audience but
    from sponsorship.  Of course they are going to flock to it.  And, of
    course, certain acts are going to fade away, Fink and his mules now work
    for Hal Roach, pulling an ice truck that the Little Rascals use for
    their big parade.

    An entertainment medium dies, fades away completely.  The acts that
    cannot acclimate find themselves relegated to Burlesque and those that
    do basically turn their act into comedy, and pretty sleazy comedy at
    that.   (Look! there's  Phil Silvers!  Holy Cow!  Look at her!)  People
    who used to spend money on a regular basis for their entertainment now
    pay a one-time fee for a radio and the radio almost lasts forever with a
    much greater range of programing than the usual weekly change.  There is
    a different show every day/night.  Even the shows that are played daily
    change daily.

    I'll bet there were those who could not believe that people would
    actually want to sit in their own home, listening to a ventriloquist and
    his dummy and staring at a box when they could have gone down to Main
    Street, or Broadway, or whatever, and watched the same act with the
    additional attraction of watching people dancing on roller skates and,
    of course, Fink's Mules.

    Change happens.  I'd love to be able to see Vaudeville today, oh yeah,
    there are the old acts that still exist, they cropped up on the Tonight
    Show sometime back and there was the PBS special also but 'real live'
    [removed]  We'll never really ever see it, will we?  We are lucky
    with OTR.  We still have it, a good bit of it.  We even have a lot of
    the real obscure stuff like a couple of episodes of "Smackout" (which
    may or may not be  "rebroadcast" but what the heck).  Now there are even
    changes in the OTR community, stuff once available only on LP and tape
    is now available as MP3 and readily available for free, much to the
    consternation of a certain individual intent on collecting all of the
    money to be spent on OTR forever and ever.  I'm sure that person harkens
    back to the days when he had the market in inexpensive cassettes and
    computers were just word processors and game systems.

    Rather than bemoan the fact that television took over where radio left
    off I think we should do as much as possible to nurture the existence of
    what remains from that era.
    This way, the younger folks, the teenagers,  the ten year olds, mine
    included, and the young adults (I was eighteen when I heard my first OTR
    show and I'm forty five now)  who still seem to find their way to this
    medium can discover what a wonderful world existed long before they were
    born.

    Finally, I've noticed over the past months that the stock of VHS tapes
    are getting smaller and smaller while the stock of DVD gets larger and
    larger, at a larger price I might add.  Like I said, change happens.

    Hey!  Where did this soap box come from?  Rinso!?!  Oh well, at least
    its on [removed]

    Walt

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    Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:33:07 -0500
    From: "Mary Anne Burkhalter" <characterstogo@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Streaming OTR

    Since I'm new to the list, I don't know if anyone has mentioned all the
    streaming OTR on [removed]  Some programs are even updated daily

    Mary Anne

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    Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:33:05 -0500
    From: "Jerry Williams" <mrj@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Big Inch Land Co.

    Greetings All
    Last Sept. while in Dawson City I began inquiring about where the property
    was,most people that I talked with were familiar with it but did not know
    where it was [removed] to Whitehorse got me a plot number and back to
    the mining office for a [removed] was located south of Dawson City on the
    Yukon [removed] out and took some pictures and staked my claim plus dug
    up a few square inches of the land to bring back with [removed] the way back
    stop at Whitehorse and got copies of the deed when the "Klondike Big Inch
    Land Co." bought the property for $200 dollars on [removed],[removed] anyone
    would like to see a picture of the land e-mail me and I will be happy to
    send it to [removed]
    Best to you all
    Jerry Williams

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    Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:46:15 -0500
    From: "H. K. Hinkley" <hkhinkley@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Shocking Coincidence

    Al Girard wrote:

>     I thought I'd pass on a story that my mother used to tell about a time

    when

>     I was a youngster. Apparently I was about three or four years old at the
>     time, and as I turned the radio on, my mother cautioned me "be careful,

    you

>     might break something". As soon as she finished saying that, the tubes

    had

>     warmed up and a man's voice said "yes, and I'm not going to fix it for

    you,

>     either!"

    Which reminds me of the time a few years ago when a neighbor gave me an
    old console radio.  I cleaned off the cobwebs, plugged it in, turned it
    on, waited for the warmup, and heard an OTR program, I've forgotten what.
     Obviously I'd stumbled onto a rebroadcast, but for a moment I thought
    I'd suffered a timewarp!  What a moment.

    Stay tuned,   HK

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    Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:54:29 -0500
    From: eddie ginsburg <eddieg100@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  benny and the shark

    JB was definitely NOT over the hill in the Lucky Strike series excpet for
    maybe the final year or 2
    Jack's [removed] you say I beg your pardon, is a series of shows that never
    fails to tickle my funnybone
    the series of shows where Frank Fontaine plays his later-classic Crazy
    Guggenheim schtick never fails to elicit a chuckle.
    I arrived late to the discussion can someone send me the URL for this Jumping
    the shark site
    thanks,
    ed ginsburg

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    Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:54:27 -0500
    From: Sam Levene <srl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:OTR & future generations

    The post about the youngster listening happily to The Shadow and Suspense
    in the car reminds me that last summer I lent a set of the multi-episode
    BBC radio production of The Lord of the Rings to a boy of about 9 who not
    only didn't know about OTR but was from another country and just learning
    English.  He was absolutely rivetted, enchanted by the programs and we
    ended  by getting him his own set of the tapes so he could hear it over and
    over again - 26 half hours.
    Sam Levene.

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    Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:55:06 -0500
    From: Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Smith Ballew and Nick Lucas

    Dear List-mates,

    I know that both Nick Lucas and Smith Ballew were very active on radio in
    the early-to-mid-Thirties, Ballew taking over the Shell Chateau show for a
    time after Jolson left.  I realize that not a lot is available from this
    era, but I would very much like to acquire whatever is available featuring
    these two singers.

    How can I find out what exists, and where might I acquire it?

    Cordially,

    Rob Spencer

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:04:48 -0500
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Still On the Air

         "The Nashville show actually started at 6 pm to midnight, but the
    network only carried it from 8 to 10 pm. est"

    Sorry, Owens; the Grand Ole Opry was only on for 30 minutes over NBC,
    sponsored by Prince Albert Tobacco. It was also on some regional networks for
    30 minutes, sponsored by Purina.

    WSM, in addition to the Grand Ole Opry, has aired Ernest Tubb's Midnight
    Jamboree" since 1947.

    The Wheeling WV "Jamboree USA" is still aired over WWVA on Saturday nights as
    it has been since about 1933, and the Renfro Valley Gatherin' is still
    syndicated; it started on CBS in the early 40s.

    BILL KNOWLTON, "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE," WCNY-FM: Syracuse, Utica, Watertown NY
    (since 1973) Sundays, 9 pm est: [removed]

     .
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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:03:29 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Little people in the radio

>     Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:03:19 -0500
>     From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];

>     David Phaneuf (OTR #71) is the first person I've ever come across who
>     remembers searching, as I did, for those little people inside radios who
>     talked and played music.

    I never looked for the little people inside the radio.  Or the phonograph.
    I realized, somehow, that they weren't there.  But the first time I heard
    my father's voice on the telephone, I remember looking inside the receiver
    to see if my father was in there, somehow.

    I guess I know how Nipper felt.

     A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                        [removed]
     15 Court Square                     lawyer@[removed]
     Boston, MA 02108-2503      [removed]~lawyer/

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:57:39 -0500
    From: "Read G. Burgan" <rgb@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Unshackled

    Owens Pomery stated that "Unshackled" has been on the air since the 1930's.
    Actually, the first "Unshackled" program was broadcast over a single station
    (WGN) in the fall of 1950 with a program on the life of one of Pacific
    Garden Mission's most famous converts:  Billy Sunday -- a baseball player
    who became a world famous evangelist.  That program, along with more than
    1,000 others, are still available on cassette from Pacific Garden Mission.

    Read Burgan

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:57:37 -0500
    From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RADIO/TV: A COMPARISON

           I agree with Cris in the last Digest about the difference in Radio
    and TV. Radio has been so beautifully referred to as "The Theater Of The
    Mind":  Case in point:  Some years ago, I was on a panel with other OTR
    artists and technicians fielding questions from students at Broadcasting
    Institute Of Maryland. The topic was:  "How was it possible for the OTR
    programs to survive so long?"  When it came to my turn to answer I told the
    students I was going to play an excerpt from WOTW, and asked them to close
    their eyes and listen carefully to the tape, then tell me what they "saw" in
    their "mind's eye".
    (I played the segment where the Martians are coming out of the space ship.)
    There must have been a least 20 students in that classroom, and as I went to
    each one to tell me what they saw, no two persons described the same
    scenario. I explained that with radio, you had to use your imagination -
    something you do not need when watching TV.  The picture is there for the
    time it is on, and then . . . gone! from your theater of the mind, never
    more to return(except in reruns).

      I also told them if you asked me what the TV plot was for Lucy the week
    before, I could not tell them - but - if you asked me what happened on the
    Phil Harris show where Jack Benny plays Santa for Phil's kids, I would give
    you the plot from beginning to end - even though the show aired more that 45
    years or so ago, because it is planted forever in my "theater of the mind!"

       The generation that was raised during the 60's and 70's was often
    referred to as the "boob tube" generation and did not have the opportunity
    to really use their imagination and explore the "theater of the mind," as so
    many of us on this digest list did. With "the magic and power" of OTR, we
    could be whomever we wanted to be, travel wherever we wanted to go all in
    "our mind's eye," thanks to those wonderful radio programs.

        Do any of you share this enthusiasm and love affair I had with the
    medium?

                                 -  30  -

    Owens Pomeroy
    "Nostalgia is like a grammar lesson: We find the PRESENT TENSE and the past
    PERFECT!"

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:25:45 -0500
    From: "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Scarlet Queen -- the lost episodes?

    Recently I read on the OTR Trading Post [removed] that episodes
    7 and 10 of Voyage of the Scarlet Queen ("Street of the Woodling Woman" and
    "Phil Masbaste") are not available. Does anybody know if this is true or
    not, and is there an interesting story about why only these 2 episodes out
    of 34 are missing?

    By the way, I find the Scarlet Queen episodes amusing for their campy-ness,
    but also stirring and riveting for their atmosphere and detail. When the
    Queen leaves port I can really feel the excitement of the wind and the open
    sea, and in one episode specific Honolulu streets are not only real but in
    the right part of town.

    Doug Leary

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:14:58 -0500
    From: joseph <joseph@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Goldbergs Cylinder Recording

    In our local museum there an Edison "console" cylinder player. There
    was an Cylinder called Goldbergs: Telephoning the Auto Repair Shop.
    Was this the Goldbergs as in the Rise of the Goldbergs or just a
    jewish ethnic comedy sketch?

    On modern audio theater. As a hobby I produce audio theater. I
    believe there are people who would listen to it if I could get it to
    them. Well the internet may become the purveyor. I have put some of
    my work on [removed] the streaming mp3 web server. And I
    am going to put more on. That is the way, we who like to produce it,
    can let other people hear it. And for those who are interested in
    producing programming I think they should and put it on the net.

    I also agree with a previous poster that a mix is the important
    thing. Good OTR, television, movies, books and etc keep the mind
    sharp. Obsession on one thing always dulls the mind.

    Joseph

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:14:59 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  ... That's the way it was ...

    OTRChris notes,

> >     I cannot envision people just sitting in front of their radios for

    seven hours a day doing absolutely nothing else. Was it ever that way ?"

    No.  Usually, people were doing something while listening to OTR.  My
    grandmother crocheted.  My father did things like crosswords and
    acrostics.  When growing up, I played with electric trains and the like.

    Don't forget that the early soap operas were developed so that while the
    housewives of the time were doing dull, lengthy chores like washing and
    ironing, they'd have something to listen to that would occupy their
    minds.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:25:46 -0500
    From: LBohall@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Death and the media

    Brian Johnson noted yesterday that "even death can be funny if you handle it
    right"...and I'd like to point out that radio was handling death in some
    absolutely hysterical ways on The Life of Riley. My kids and I howl whenever
    Digby O'Dell, your Friendly Undertaker, shovels along. The writers milked
    that entire concept for every bit of humor it was worth~and it was worth a
    LOT. Jack Benny had some funny skits about death and the after-life, too.

    I think it's almost simplistic to say that the media doesn't or didn't deal
    with death. They have actually been "ahead of the curve" society-wise with
    the topic (anyone remember Archie Bunker's episode about funerals?). It's
    just that some shows have done a better job with it than [removed]

    Larry Bohall

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:14:55 -0500
    From: "stephen jansen" <stephenjansen@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR VERSUS TV

         It's good to see that several others out there agree with me at least a
    little about the evils of television, and the sad state of Imagination these
    days.  It's good to see good arguments against my views, too.
         I wholeheartedly agree with a previous post that stated we must do what
    we can to keep OTR/audio drama alive and active.  I head a group called,
    ironically, "The Theatre of the Mindless".  We get out and do live shows in
    1940's costumes, with period microphones, full sound effects tables, live
    organ music, some actual antique radios - the whole enchilada.  After the
    shows, there are always some audience members who hang around.  Some older
    folks who remember the good old days of radio, who seem awfully glad that it
    hasn't been forgotten.  Some middler-aged folks who let us know how "unique"
    and "unusual" this seems to them, glad that they can enjoy a show which is
    appropriate for the entire family.  And LOTS of kids, who have tried skits
    like this in shool, who do it at home for their own enjoyment, who just
    think it's cool.
         I have written some audio drama, and am currently producing/recording
    some which I hope will end up on the air one way or another.
         I just keep in mind the saying that "everything old is new again".  All
    it will take is for one new song or one new TV show to feature OTR at the
    right time in the right way, and it will catch hold with the younger
    generations.  With the internet and mp3 format, OTR is more accessable than
    ever before.  There's too much going for OTR for it to die out.
         We've just got to keep introducing people to it - make up a tape of
    your absolute favorites and keep it in the glove compartment of your car.
    Sooner or later, you'll find yourself talking to someone who has maybe a
    little more than a passing interest in OTR.  GIVE THEM THE TAPE.  It's
    simple, it's cheap, and it works.
         Hey, anybody else notice that the "Best [removed]" compilations sold out in
    the real world never really are the BEST?  Radio's Best Detectives/Radio's
    Best [removed] could pick better "Bests" with my eyes closed.  Er, ears
    plugged.  Oh, I guess it's all terribly subjective, so it's probably silly
    to bring it up.  But I would prefer that a novice would get introduced to
    OTR via one of my own "Best Of" tapes, than a commercially available one.

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:15:01 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  New classification?

    David Phaneuf asks,

> >     ... MTV (that's "Modern" TV -- not "Music" TV -- say, do you think we

    can coin MTV as an appropriate designation like OTR or OSR?) ...<<

    Why not MOTV, so as to minimize confusion with the current MTV?  In the
    mid 1950s, the Defense department started speculating about guided
    missiles that could be shot for thousands of miles, and started calling
    them Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles -- abbreviated "IBMs" -- until a
    certain typewriter-and-calculator manufacturer in upstate New York
    objected, and the abbreviation was changed to "ICBMs."

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:15:03 -0500
    From: "Robert Fells" <rfells@[removed];
    To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  [removed] Fields on Bergen/McCarthy

    Steve McGuffin asked about the availability of [removed] Fields appearances on
    the Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy show.  I still have a couple of old LPs
    from the 1970s that excerpted their exchanges from various broadcasts,
    though these are undated.  At least one must be from wartime because of
    Fields' remark that wood pulp is on the priority list.  I also know of an
    AFRS broadcast with Fields.

    Edgar Bergen appeared on the Merv Griffin TV show back in the 70s. I recall
    he was the only guest on an hour or 90 minute show.  Griffin asked Mr.
    Bergen a number of questions about working with Fields and his answers were
    most interesting.  According to Mr. Bergen, Fields would review the script
    and change his own dialogue -  but not anybody elses.  Mr. Bergen
    acknowledged that [removed] usually came up with better punch lines than the
    staff writers but cautioned that with Fields, he never knew what he was
    going to say on the air.

    This claim seems to be documented by listening to some of the exchanges.  At
    times, Fields seems to go far afield - no pun intened - in spinning some
    yarn and Edgar Bergen has his hands full in steering him back to the script.
    In one wayward exchange with Don Ameche, Fields seems annoyed and says,
    "Don't prompt me."

    Radio work became scarce for Fields by the early 1940s and one of his
    biographies contains letters from Fields complaining that nobody would hire
    him for radio.  Mr. Bergen touched on that in his Merv Griffin appearance
    saying that he eventually became the only person in radio who would use
    Fields, a statement that seems correct.  Bergen said that he trusted Fields
    and that Fields never let him down.

    Bob Fells

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:01:08 -0500
    From: "Frank Phillips" <frankphi@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  People in the radio

    As a child of TV in its infancy, my mother and I once visited my grandfather
    in Winamac, Ind.

    He had no TV, but a very nice tabletop radio set on a small table near the
    door.

    Evidently, he was listening to Gunsmoke or Have Gun Will Travel or another
    OTR show that survived into the 1950s. (This would have been around 1955.)

    After listening a few minutes I asked, "Where is the picture?"

    Frank Phillips
    [removed]
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:33:56 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jumping the Media

    Owens Pomeroy, speaking of Fred Allen's quote about not being able to
    "fit into" Tv screens, observes,

> >         Of course, Fred was speaking for himself, and a few others who had

    doubts about the success of radio shows to TV - but - you know, he did
    speak the truth in a way, because for the exception of a few shows that
    did successfully make the change, a lot of the radio series only lasted
    one or two seasons on [removed];<

    Well, they were different media with different perspectives, after all.
    I cannot how a Pat Novak For Hire could have worked on TV, and am glad
    nobody ever tried.

    Here's a quandary:  The Captain Midnight TV show lasted at least six
    years, but it wasn't a continuation of the OTR show!  So, though it had a
    decent run, you really couldn't say the show "made the jump" from radio.
    (The OTR version lasted more than a decade.)

    The only show I can recall that went seamlessly from OTR to OTV was Sky
    KIng.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:43:29 -0500
    From: Duane Wadsworth <dwadsworth@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Big Band 24-hours a day in the Bay Area - KCEA,
     [removed] MHz

    Thanks to Jim Terra for mentioning that Menlo Atherton High School's radio
    station is beaming great big band sounds 24-hours a day, commercial free,
    at [removed]  Yes, the station is low-powered BUT they've recently moved the
    transmitter to San Carlos on a hill and it can now be heard around the San
    Francisco Bay.  This is no school-kid programming.  After Jonathan
    Schwartz's WNYC, New York  Saturday and Sunday shows, this is the best
    programming I've heard of this great music.

    Contributions are needed and should be send to:
    Radio Station KCEA
    Menlo Atherton High School
    555 Middlefield Road
    Atherton, CA   94027
    Tel: 650 306-8823

    If only they had enough money to afford streaming audio on the [removed]

    -DUANE-

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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:36:04 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  More old stye radio still on the [removed]

    Owens Pomeroy noted three shows that are still broadcasting in the old
    style.  I can add a few more to his Grand Ol' Opry, Met Opera, and
    Unshackled, which is a neat weekly radio drama, with a message.  Unshackled
    is broadcast on the Worship Radio Network, not available in this part of
    South Dakota.
        1.  Paul Harvey news and comment, and Rest of the story
        2.  Mormon Tabernacle Choir, Music and the spoken word
        Unfortunately, the MTC is only available on some kind of satellite
    hookup, no longer broadcast on AM or FM stations thruout the US.  I guess
    there are a few stations in the west that carry the program.

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344
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    Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:44:55 -0500
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Snacks

    A ritual I have witnessed with many folks -- watching television while
    eating dinner,  or snacking while enjoying a televised event, seems not to
    apply to radio listening, ...or does it?

    I remember well the golden days of radio and I don't recall ever listening
    to a radio program while eating  dinner.  Nor do I remember having snacks
    when we adjourned to the radio room, after dinner, to listen to our
    favorite programs. My parents would not permit it and certainly wouldn't
    do it themselves. Listening was more of a solitary activity, requiring full
    concentration and little distraction.

    Was this your experience as a listener in the golden age? Did you snack and
    listen?

    Dennis Crow

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