Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #102
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 3/30/2005 1:31 PM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 102
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Don Pardo                         [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      MP-3 Players                          [ Richard Fisher <w9fjl@[removed]; ]
      Book Review: [removed], Archie! Re-  [ "Chuck Case" <ccase3@[removed]; ]
      Stan Freburg and the twilight of OTR  [ David Loftus <dloft59@[removed] ]
      3-30 births/deathc                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Early TV                              [ OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin) ]
      Re: Better On TV                      [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
      Roger Krupp                           [ "thomas" <evander800@[removed]; ]
      WWRL                                  [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
      SFX: The Lone Ranger, and Location R  [ "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      More on Zach, [removed] And Chris Stein  [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
      John & Marsha                         [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Margot Stevenson and Laurel & Hardy   [ Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@earthlin ]
      best detective/mystery                [ "William Vest III" <tsukasasan@hotm ]
      3-31 births/death                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:17:20 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Don Pardo
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    In a message dated 3/28/05 3:02:26 PM Central Standard Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     isn't don pardo the last staff announcer (did he depart this world when i
>     wasn't paying attention or have i just not watched saturday night live for a
>     long time?

    Don Pardo still opens "Saturday Night Live," or did as recently as the week
    Paris Hilton guest-hosted.  But I think that's all he does on NBC now and it
    may even be pre-recorded.  He may not be on staff specifically at NBC anymore,
    as I heard his voice about five years ago in a Frosted Cheerios commercial
    that
    ran on all broadcast and cable TV networks.

    I love hearing Pardo's voice, and was pleasantly surprised to hear him open a
    "Colgate Comedy Hour" with Abbott and Costello that I bought not long ago on
    VHS at a discount store.   I would love to hear him just doing an OTR big band
    remote and I understand there's at least one recording that does exist of his
    doing that.

    Dixon

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:17:55 -0500
    From: Richard Fisher <w9fjl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  MP-3 Players

    First, I have no connection with this company or anyone who sells this
    product.

    I recently purchased an Audiovox D1708 Portable 7" LCD Monitor and DVD
    Player. Cost here in Hamilton, Ohio was $[removed]

    To my surprise it plays low bit rate MP-3 with no problem.  I have tried
    it with a disc containing 100 shows and it performs magnificently.
    However, it does NOT remember where you stopped or on what show. But it
    does have a credit card thin remote which lets you fast forward up to
    36x which is a great help. You skip to your last show and press fast
    forward and do not have to hold onto the fast forward button. Just press
    stop when you get where you want to go. The show number and minutes and
    seconds are displayed on the screen.

    Another plus is that it also plays DVD minus R home recorded DVD's. I
    copy movies from HBO or the networks and then can watch them on this
    player when I am away from home.

    It may play DVD plus R discs but I have none to try.

    It of course plays regular CD's and has two headphone jacks or you can
    listen on the built-in speakers.

    You have a complete home entertainment center in one small portable
    unit. Battery life playing DVD's is listed as 3 hours (which I doubt).
    Probably 2 hours is more likely. Plugs into your cigarette lighter in
    the car.

    Hope this is of interest to someone.

    Dick

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:18:26 -0500
    From: "Chuck Case" <ccase3@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Book Review: [removed], Archie! Re-Laxx!

    Mr. Stone,
        I finished your brilliant book about 1 week ago and I thought it was
    excellent. I was not around when Radio was in its heyday. I now feel like I
    know some of what went on. I really enjoyed all of the stories and a look at
    what some of my favorite perfomers looked like.
        I cut my OTR teeth on CBS Radio Mystery Theater so it was really great
    to hear about and see Mason Adams, Leon Janney, Arnold Moss, and Robert
    Dryden just to name a few.
        I have listened to a few of the Archie Shows. How mwny do exist? I am
    interested in getting more to listen to. If you could point me in the
    direction of more Archie Andrews shows I would appreciate it.
        In closing I would like to say THANK YOU for all of the great
    performances and all of the memories that you have let us peek in on, in
    your book.
         Thanks Again
         Chuck Case
    [removed] If you write Part II I would like to put my order in right [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:19:11 -0500
    From: David Loftus <dloft59@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Stan Freburg and the twilight of OTR

    Thanks to the generosity of another list member, I have been able to listen
    to the entire run of 16 shows that Stan Freburg and his wonderful cast did in
    the wake of Jack Benny's departure for television. I've always loved June
    Foray, but this time around I've especially enjoyed hearing all the many
    voices of Daws Butler -- you can hear hints of the future Huckleberry Hound,
    Yogie Bear, Augie Doggie, and Snagglepuss in his characters for Freburg.

    Does anybody know who did the terrific voice of the Abominable Snowman in the
    various Freburg sketches? Was that Butler or Peter Leeds?

    What a brilliant, but shockingly short series it was. In retrospect, there's
    an elegiac irony to the arc of the Stan Freburg series: the theme song starts
    out boisterous, almost combative, for most of the run:

    "You may not find us on your TV,
       Because in case you did not know,
     We're being brought to you on. . .
       brought to you on . . .
    Brought to you on R-A-D-I-O!"

    But by the last two shows, the humor includes rueful references to Freburg's
    inability to land sponsors (among which the sizable sketch about Freburg
    advertising himself must be counted), and the theme song changes to:

    "You may well find us on your TV,
      Because in case you did not know
     We're bidding fond farewell to . . . . R-A-D-I-O."

    David Loftus

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:25:58 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-30 births/deathc

    March 30th births

    03-30-1892 - Ethel Owen, Racine WI - d. 12-28-1990
    actress: Siri Allen "Against the Storm"; Clara Noble "Backstage Wife"
    03-30-1893 - Dennis Hoey - London, England - d. 7-25-1960
    actor: Edward Welby "Pretty Kitty Kelly"
    03-30-1896 - Samson Raphaelson - NYC - d. 7-16-1983
    playwright: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-30-1913 - Frankie Laine - Chicago, IL
    singer: "Big Show"
    03-30-1919 - Turhan Bey - Vienna, Austria
    actor: Francois Tarique "Notorious Tarique"
    03-30-1926 - Bill Farrell - Cleveland, OH
    singer: "Bob Hope Show"
    03-30-1927 - Peter Marshall - Huntington, WV
    actor: "Hollywood Radio Theatre"
    03-30-1929 - Richard Dysart - Augusta, ME
    actor: "We Hold These Truths"
    03-30-1930 - John Astin - Baltimore, MD
    actor: "Zero Hour"

    March 30th deaths

    01-11-1902 - Charlie Nehlsen - d. 3-30-1980
    engineer: Recorded Hindenburg disaster as reported by Herb Morrison
    07-17-1899 - James Cagney - NYC - d. 3-30-1986
    actor: "Arch Oboler's Plays"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    07-25-1905 - Harold Peary - San Leandero, CA - d. 3-30-1985
    actor: Throckmorton P. Gildersleeve , "Fibber McGee and Molly and The
    Great Gildersleeve"
    09-17-1890 - Gabriel Heatter - NYC - d. 3-30-1972
    news, commentator: "News and Comment"; "We. the People"
    11-20-1908 - Alistair Cooke - Manchester, England - d. 3-30-2004
    host: "Transatlantic Quiz"; "Letter to America"; "Stage and Screen"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:25:52 -0500
    From: OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Early TV

    Derek Teague had a question about TV performers of the 60's and 70's who
    are now doing "OTR-related pursuits".  A quick perusal of the list of
    performers in OTR conventions can give Derek the answer that he is
    looking for. The only one I can think of off-hand is Harold Gould, whom
    I admiringly remember from "Golden Girls" (Miles, the suitor of Rose).
    Mr. Gould has become a regular at SPERDVAC conventions, performing in
    re-creations.  He is part of Greg Oppenheimer's (son of Jess
    Oppenheimer, radio's "My Favorite Husband" and tv's "I Love Lucy")
    prestigious group of actors.

    I was one of the persons who contributed here on the Digest, on
    information about Linda Kaye Henning, and I brought in the Paul Henning
    connection.  At the time, I was unaware that Paul was still living, and
    I apologize for any confusion that might have caused.  Our condolences
    go to Linda Kaye in the recent loss of her father, Paul Henning.

    Stuart Lubin

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:43:36 -0500
    From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Better On TV

    Off the top of my head, I can think of several shows that exceeded their
    radio origins on early TV:

    Father Knows Best (far superior talent on the video side's cast)

    Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet (though this could be more directly
    attributable to the boys' growing older and developing distinctive
    personalities that could be mined for stories than the move to TV per se)

    You Bet Your Life (even though Groucho was such a verbal comedian, often a
    sense of his facial and other physical mannerisms really helped to grasp the
    subtleties of his performance)

    Our Miss Brooks (no worse than the second-best long-running TV sitcom of its
    era)

    The Milton Berle Show (duh!)

    Burns and Allen (as great as the 1940s married-couple radio show was, their
    TV series was absolutely groundbreaking in both its technical and artistic
    innovation, still copied directly by shows today)

    Adventures of Superman (the astoundingly bad one-note characterizations of
    Perry White [vicious, insulting] and Lois Lane [arrogant, conniving; check
    out her career-climbing backstabbing in the Kryptonite/Scarlet Widow/Atom
    Man era!] from the radio days were replaced with genuinely human rethinkings
    of both; Jimmy Olsen [stupid, hypercautious] and Clark Kent [hysterical,
    unpersuasive] were both allowed to act in something resembling a resourceful
    manner)

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:34:07 -0500
    From: "thomas" <evander800@[removed];
    To: "old_time_radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Roger Krupp

         Lee Munsick says Ray Poindexter identified Robert Krupp as playing the
    role of radio announcer in the 1932 film, "Are You Listening?". The AFI
    catalog of feature films for 1931-40 lists Frank Whitbeck as the radio
    announcer.
         Tom

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:37:21 -0500
    From: PURKASZ@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WWRL
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    In 1967 it was both my horror and my delight to be  hired as the All-Night
    House Party DJ at WWRL.
        I was a big hit in the Bay Area of San Francisco in  1966 and requested a
    change of venue so that I might study acting with Stella  Adler.
        They agreed.
        I arrived on my 25th birthday, October first and I  knew it was a haunted
    house the moment I walked up the stairs but what I didn't  know was that it
    has the history it seems to have in the world of radio  historians.
        I do remember a night when the wife of Willie Mays  came to the studio
    with her daughter to visit me.
        I was the only white guy on the air but that was my  choice as I always
    preferred the Motown sound to many of the 'Bubble gum' tunes  of the 60s.
        I knew then that I was in an historical place but  like many of my past
    adventures, it came to me only after I had left.
        They fired me for not adhering to the 'play list'  which was odd as I was
    sure I would NEVER have the problem once I got on a real  R&B station.
        The list was put together by a nineteen year old  guy I never met. When I
    reminded me that they had hired my from the base in San  Francisco, KDIA and
    that I was known to play records from other eras with  impunity, I was
    reminded once again that I was fired.
        Sigh.
        WWRL, beloved in my memory and proud to have been a  player at one time.
                Michael  C. Gwynne

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    Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:14:33 -0500
    From: "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  SFX: The Lone Ranger, and Location Recording

>     Now, a question for the group: are there any examples of location
>     production from the Golden Age?  I'm talking about drama or comedy
>     (not
>     news!) produced with the actors outside the studio, with mics
>     picking up
>     the actual sounds of the place and the players.

    Of course, Ted is asking about actors on location, and I got so
    carried away quoting that "Empire-Builders-sound-effects-on-the-roof"
    stuff that I forgot to mention the one really relevant instance I knew
    of where Wyllis Cooper took his actors out of the studio. In 1935-6,
    at the same time he was doing "Lights Out" in Chicago, Cooper also did
    an afternoon adventure series about aviators. Here's a couple of
    blurbs from the Chicago Tribune:

    [from August 1, 1935] Realistic sound effects for NBC's radio serial
    "Flying Time," will be provided by the roar of the world's fastest
    racing planes when the Aug. 30 and Sept. 2 shows are broadcast from
    the Cleveland airport during the National Air races. The scripts for
    the two broadcasts which will originate from the flying field will be
    written at the airport and will be prepared so as to include much of
    the action of the air races. They will also bring to the microphone as
    guest performers many famous pilots, including Jimmy Doolittle, Roscoe
    Turner, Jimmy and May Haislip and Al Williams. ...

    [from August 29, 1935]... With other members of the "Flying Time" cast
    Cooper left yesterday for Cleveland, where the program will be aired
    from the airport during the national air races. Loretta Poynton,
    Willard Farnum, Ted Maxwell, and Harold Perry made the trip with him.
    ...

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    Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:42:04 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:42:18 -0500
    From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  More on Zach, [removed] And Chris Steinbrenner

    Oh, Lee Munsick, that was ME who provided the Brother Theodore, theatre
    [removed]!

    :-)

    But onto something really [removed]

    ;-)

    One of my oldest friends, gone now, unbelievably, since the summer of
    1993, was Chris Steinbrenner--also, I know, a friend to many of you
    here. Chris was an OTR buff, historian, and [removed]

    Right out of college, in the '50s Chris went to work at WOR, where he
    would spend--through its RKO/General Tire incarnation--his entire
    professional life. Chris wrote such books as CINEMA OF THE FANTASTIC,
    and THE FILMS OF SHERLOCK HOLMES, and co-edited the Edgar Award winning
    ENCYCLOPEDIA OF MYSTERY, a landmark reference book, from the '70s, which
    contained much OTR material.

    Chris did a monthly column for ELLERY QUEEN's MYSTERY MAGAZINE, and was
    a muckety-muck with the Mystery Writers of [removed]  If I recall, he
    was also at many of the early OTR conventions, and possibly, if I'm
    guessing correctly here, helped with some film [removed]

    Working at WOR in the 1950s, Chris was a major contributor to the
    Zacherly show, helping introduce, so many, to the classic horror movies.
    Zacherly, an incredibly nice man, remained a loyal friend to Chris, to
    the [removed]

    But, also when a young man--Tony Tollin would remember if this had been
    based strictly on a spec submission--Steinbrenner wrote one of the last
    episodes, of THE [removed]

    Nearly three decades later, when Chris was co-producing the 1983 edition
    of the annual Bouchercon--the mystery convention presented in a
    different city each year--in Manhattan, he booked Walter Gibson, as one
    of their main guests.

    And it was there, on a dark and shimmering night, that I saw the
    Shadow's scribe, and Harry Houdini's one-time ghost writer--

    Was Gibson now in his eighties?

    Perform his famous, magic [removed]

    Best, Jim Burns

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    Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:44:56 -0500
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  John & Marsha
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    With the pasing of attorney Johnnie Cochran, I'm reminded of this story
    involving Stan Freberg.

    In 1996, Freberg released his long-awaited sequel album "Stan Freberg
    Presents The United States of America, Volume 2," and, at one point,
    was the guest on a call-in talk-show on WFMU-FM here in New Jersey.
    When I called, I mentioned how in the previous year when the O. J. Simpson
    trial was going full-throttle, John and Larry Gassman dusted off Freberg's
    old "John and Marsha" side on their radio show and decicated it to opposing
    lawyers Johnnie Cochran and Marcia Clark.

    When I brought up the Gassman brothers by qualifying them as being big
    names on the "West Coast old-time radio scene," Stan chimed in that
    they were "very good friends" of his.  Stan then went on to say that other
    radio stations around the country picked up on the "John and Marsha"
    ploy, going so far as to introduce it as having been recorded by Cochran
    & Clark, and that there were some unsuspecting listeners unfamiliar
    with the original who actually believed that the latter day "John and
    Marcia" recorded [removed] I find this quite implausible.

    Ether!

    Derek

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    Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:27:02 -0500
    From: Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Margot Stevenson and Laurel & Hardy on TCM

    OTR fans who know Margot Stevenson from the annual FRIENDS OF OLD-TIME RADIO
    CONVENTION might want to set their VCRs to tape one of her 1940 movies.
    Margot appears opposite May Robson and Harry Davenport in GRANNIE GET YOUR
    GUN, which will be broadcast at 5:00 AM EST this Saturday on TURNER CLASSIC
    MOVIES.  This airs not long after TCM's day-long April Fool's Day tribute to
    Laurel and Hardy which begins at 6:00 AM Friday.  Films include MGM's Big
    Parade Of Comedy (1964), Pack Up Your Troubles (1932), Beau Hunks (1931),
    The Bohemian Girl (1936), Them Thar Hills (1934), Tit For Tat (1935), Pick A
    Star (1937), Chicken Come Home (1931), Nothing but Trouble (1944), Air Raid
    Wardens (1943), A Chump at Oxford (1940), Swiss Miss (1938), Way Out West
    (1937), Sons of the Desert (1933), The Music Box (1932), Block-Heads (1938),
    Pardon Us (1931) and Blotto (1930).  Margot Stevenson's GRANNIE GET YOUR GUN
    will be immediately preceded by a documentaru on the history and influence
    of England's Ealing Studios.  Hey, I'm programming my VCR. --ANTHONY TOLLIN

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    Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:35:32 -0500
    From: "William Vest III" <tsukasasan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  best detective/mystery
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    Best detective / mystery show?
     In no particular order:
    I really like Dragnet. I guess for it's realism. The plainness of it all gives
    it excitement (if that makes any sense).
    Nightbeat also does it for me. I like Frank Lovejoy. I thought the way the
    story was told was done very well. Lovejoy has a fantastic voice. (One of my
    favorite episodes he was in [I think it was him] was "The Man Who Stole The
    Bible" from Escape!)
    Following these would be Box 13 and Richard Diamond. Although Richard Diamond
    didn't seem as serious. Maybe that's what appealed to me.
    There are so many others great shows but those are the ones that stand out to
    me.
    I like Escape and Suspense but for me there were only a few episodes I liked.
    It wasn't consistent. Especially The early years of Escape.
    I dunno. That's my two cents worth.
    Wm. Vest III

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    Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:30:40 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-31 births/death

    March 31st births

    03-31-1908 - Les Damon - Providence, RI - d. 7-20-1962
    actor: Nick Charles "Advs. of the Thin Man"; Michael Waring "The
    Falcon"
    03-31-1908 - Red Norvo - Beardstown, IL - d. 4-6-1999
    jazz vibraphonist: "Bughouse Rhythm"; "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Woody
    Herman Show"
    03-31-1915 - Henry Morgan - NYC - d. 5-19-1994
    comedian: "Here's Morgan"; "Henry Morgan Show"
    03-31-1918 - Charles Russell - NYC - d. 1-18-1985
    actor: Johnny Dollar "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
    03-31-1922 - Richard Kiley - Chicago, IL - d. 3-5-1999
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    03-31-1928 - Lefty Frizzell - Corsicana, TX - d. 7-19-1975
    singer: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Louisana Hayride"; "Big D Jamboree"
    03-31-1933 - Anita Carter - Maces Springs, VA - d. 7-29-1999
    singer: (Carter Sisters) "Country Music Time"; "Grand Ole Opry"
    03-31-1934 - Shirley Jones - Smithton, PA
    singer-actress: "Calling All Hearts"; "Stars for Defense"; "Special
    Delivery: Vietnam"

    March 31st death

    06-19-1928 - Barry Took - London, England - d. 3-31-2002
    writer, comedian: "Round the Horne"; "We're In Business"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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