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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 45


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Re: Amos 'n Andy Controversy
	 Re: Shoelaces - Yet Again
	 dual deck cassette recorders revisited
	 What's the "Silvercup Award"?
	  re- Littlest Angel question
	 Dimension Y: "The No-Space Train" ???
	 Radio Charlie
	 Radio Charlie
	 New member intro:C Ryan
	 where to find c60 and c90 tapes, reasonably priced
	 RADIO SHACK RADIO-RECORDER
	 Senator Claghorn, Senator Bloat, and that rooster
	 Les Paul's recording medium

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:07:50 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Amos 'n Andy Controversy
Message-Id: <v01520d00ad37f5dd5c71@[[removed]]>

On 31 Jan 96 21:50:15 EST Steve Lewis <[removed]@[removed]> wrote:

>There is an excellent book out which covers the history of
>the program on both radio and tv and the controversy surrounding
>it both then and now.  THE ADVENTURES OF AMOS 'N' ANDY: A SOCIAL
>HISTORY OF AN AMERICAN PHENOMENON by Martin Patrick Ely, (The Free
>Press, 1991)

Yes, I heartily second that recommendation. I happened to have gotten a
copy of that book from a local university library at about the same time
the heated discussion a couple months ago about racism on OTR -- and the
society in general -- had started getting out of hand, as those things are
wont to do. But it's a little misleading to say that it's evenhanded and
deals with the pros and cons, like, "on the one hand this, but on the other
hand that." This begins with an exhaustive exploration of the minstrel
shows in this country from the 19th century on, and how it spawned
entertainments like Amos & Andy. It uses the series to examine attitudes
and prejudices in the wider culture. A&A was really a revolutionary program
in some respects and yet was firmly rooted in its time and what had gone
before. Most of what I read on the Digest (including what *I* wrote,
frankly) was fairly simplistic analysis of A&A in terms of its broader
implications to racial understanding (or, more frequently,
MISunderstanding). I don't advocate starting that whole discussion over
again, but I DO encourage anyone who might be interested in a comprehensive
study of Amos & Andy as a social phenomenon to, by all means, buy or check
out this book. It's well worth it.

Alan

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:07:56 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Shoelaces - Yet Again
Message-Id: <v01520d01ad37f9fe54cc@[[removed]]>

>I tried to make it "better" by upgrading the hardware and
>installing Windows-95.

Tsk, shoulda made it better by buying a Mac instead ;^)

Ooops. Sorry. Off-topic gratuitous remark. [Slaps wrist]

I, too know *of* this program, though I've never actually heard it. (Then
again, maybe I did, when I was four years old. Don't remember, though.) I
almost (stress *almost*) hope it doesn't turn up, because legends are
nearly always better than reality.

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:09:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: dual deck cassette recorders revisited
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hi [removed]

   I just purchased my first dual deck cassette recorder to use for
dubbing tapes.  A few weeks ago, we were discussing here on the digest the
problems finding a good one that made copies as good as the masters. I bought
one that had a recording metre and recording control so that I could
control the quality of my duplicates.  After bringing it home and setting
it up, I was surprised to find out that the recording controls were for
external sources only (like the radio, CDs, etc.), and for dubbing, the
recording level is completely automatic!  I purchased a Sony TC-W365, so I
phoned Sony's customer service and they told me that my findings were
correct and there was no way to override this automatic feature.  They
also told me that all their models were the same way.

   I guess I'll keep it, but was disappointed to discover this
"problem."The quality of the dubs are very, very good, better than I
expected. Does anyone know of another manufacturer that makes a dual deck
that allows you to control the recording level while dubbing?

   Just another observation while shopping for tape [removed] I was
surprised to find a great many of the "low" end cassette decks are now
being made without headphone jacks. I guess they are cutting costs where
ever they can!  Beware!

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|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 14:21:40 -0600
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: What's the "Silvercup Award"?
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>

I inherited a commercial cassette, without box, of an episode of
the Lone Ranger entitled "Outlaw's Town". In smaller print on the
label it says, without further comment, "Silvercup Award 1939".
This is an old Metacom cassette which appears to date from the
'70's. Not sure how accurate that award name is; this is, after all,
the same company that produced another cassette prominently labeled
"50 Famous Commericals [sic] from Yesteryear".

Anyway, what is, or was, the "Silvercup Award"? I assume that it's
some sort of industry award -- something like the Oscars or Emmys, 
perhaps? Presumably the radio industry _did_ have some kind of award
system to recognize talent in that area, but I have never heard any
discussion about it.

This particular Lone Ranger episode is a Hughes Type "G" and has a
fairly routine plot about bad guys threatening to swipe land from
the Brave and Noble Settlers. Maybe they won an award for Outstanding
Hoofbeats or [removed]

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Adobe Systems, Inc. (formerly Frame Technology)
Advanced Product Services
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date:     Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:40 CST
From: ZENCHC@[removed] (Chris Zenchenko, 7-3543)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:  re- Littlest Angel question
Message-Id: <m0tiSfB-000YOQC@[removed]>

The story of the Littlest Angel is a Christmas story released on 78 rpm
records in the late 40s or early 50s.  It was part of a Decca Records
series called Personality.  The narator is Loretta Young and the story
complete runs about 20 minutes.  I do not recall the author's name but I
can look at the folder and post it if you are interested.
As I have commented in the past, children's records are a wonderful look
at otr turned in to a commercial product.  Since the media still being
audio limited what could be done the only "improvement" was the picture
book type of kids record.  I have located several of these in my
collection and plan on transferring them to tape.  Most are staffed with
otr voices and many come from the 1940s.  Radio in my opinion at it's
best.
73

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:22:35 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Dimension Y: "The No-Space Train" ???
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,
 
I noticed a show in the University of Memphis catalog that was on NBC in
1952 for the series DIMENSION Y called "The No-Space Train".  I never 
heard of DIMENSION Y.  DIMENSION X ended on Sept. 29, 1951 and there was
no show by that name in its run.  Was this a real series or a typo?

One more question.  I have THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER: "Zero Hour".  I _thought_
this might be another show based on a Ray Bradbury story.  Not so.  I just
noticed THE WHISTLER: "Kaleidoscope" in the SPERDVAC catalog.  Does anyone
know if this one is based on Mr. Bradbury's story?

Frank
 

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:37:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: VAMOSSY_J@[removed]
Subject: Radio Charlie
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

John Vamossy wrote:
>   I recently had the pleasure of listening to a series of tapes 
>entitled "The Home Front", which, among other things, featured 
>numerous segments of WWII era radio broadcasts.
>   One of the items featured was a snippet of a song by someone the 
>narrator identified by the nickname "Radio Charlie". According to the 
>program, this individual was featured in German shortwave broadcasts 
>singing axis propaganda songs in English in the big band style.
>   I hope I am not too far off topic here, but having a degree in 
>Communication, I am interested in both old time radio and the ways 
>electronic media such as radio have been used for propaganda 
>purposes. Because of this, I was wondering whether any of you kind 
>folks out there would have any additional information on Radio Charlie 
>or could direct me to a source where more detailed information could 
>be located. In addition, does anyone out there know whether any of 
>Radio Charlie's recordings are available somewhere? If so, I would be 
>very interested in obtaining some of these.
>   I will be very grateful for any information which you might 
>be able to provide. I will monitor the OTR newsgroup for replies, or, 
>if you wish, feel free to E-mail me directly.
>

John,
One of my earliest web page items (I don't have it on the page right now)
included some sampling from Radio Charlie.  Here is what I know:

The identity of Radio Charlie has never really been discovered. Some 
believe he was an American expatriot, but others are not sure.  There
were a number of radio propagandists, of course, including Lord Haw Haw,
aka William Joyce, Tokyo Rose (many different ones including Iva D'Aquino), 
Axis Sally (Mildred Gillars), Paul Revere, aka Douglas Chandler, and Charlie.  
Each one had their own style of propaganda and Charlie's was to take popular
songs of the times and attach crude and hateful lyrics. One of his milder ones
include this lyric to the tune of "The Continental":

"It's so terrific, in the Pacific, the Japanese are doing very well.
They've taken Hong Kong, and Manilla, their Navy and Air Force is swell.
The talk of the world is the Pacific, the Japanese are in the big news.
They fight aggression in the Pacific, they fight Roosevelt and his Jews.
My ship whispers Franklin so helplessly, we're anything but strong.
It's so terrific in the Pacific, the Japanese have taken Singapore."

As you can [removed]

I have some other tapes that are just listed as Charlie and his Orchestra.

Charlie was never caught (at least as we know him). Thus his identity was 
never known.

Like you I am interested in electronic media and how it was developed from
the beginning of radio.  You might want to visit my web site. I try to add
elements of the news from radio as well as otr soundbites.

The site address is  [removed]

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:39:39 -0500
From: LordLyndon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Charlie
Message-ID: <960202223939_134559396@[removed]>

John S. Vamossy inquired in digest #44 about propaganda recordings by "Radio
Charlie."

Charlie was a German bandleader who recorded 20-25 Nazi propaganda versions
of standard tunes. As you know, these were played on shortwave broadcasts,
and were probably not widely heard.

Most or all of these records were made in the early part of the war, before
the intercession of the [removed] Consequently, many contain personal attacks on
Churchill; although a few also attack FDR, or both.

Radiola released two albums that featured some of these recordings: one was a
two-record set entitled "Hitler is on the Air!," this is a mix of propaganda
broadcasts including a Hitler speech (record one) and mouthing-offs by such
wayward souls as "Lord Haw-Haw" and "Paul Revere."  This album has Charlie
versions of You're the Top, Little Sir Echo, Pocketful of Dreams, You've
Started Something, and Daisy Bell. Another Radiola release (I think called
"Songs from Hitler's Germany") devotes the whole second side to eight Charlie
songs, such as St Louis Blues, Laugh Clown Laugh, and Boom!

Sometimes Charlie will sing the real lyrics to the song and then come in with
the "Nazi" version, sometimes the whole record is propaganda. On "You've
Started Something," a female voice speaks an intro to the tune, after an
instrumental play-through:

"Hello, Churchill.  I think you've started something! Now listen to Charlie
giving you the [removed]"
Charlie: "You've started something,
            "Yes, you did and you thought it very easy
            "To declare a charming war and beat the Nazis,
            "You [removed]"

Although the Radiola releases are slapped all over with apologies for the
material and how it is not the personal beliefs of the company or its
employees, [removed] the blurbs for the albums describe Charlie and His
Orchestra as "fun Nazis," and as a pretty good swing band. OK, they are. Sort
of in the way the Hogan's Heroes Nazis were fun (except of course, this was
real WWII propaganda, coming from the other side).

Having just moved, my albums are pretty well packed away at the moment, but I
did transfer all of the Charlie selections onto a cassette.  Just in case
you'd like to know, John.  And that's all I'm going to say, lest we arouse
the ire of you-know-who, about whom there's already been too much said in
this space of late.

If I dig out the albums and find more info on Charlie, I'll post it to you.

LordLyndon@[removed]   

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:30:01 -0600 (CST)
From: "Craig A. Ryan" <cryan@[removed]>
Subject: New member intro:C Ryan
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Mellow greetings, radio pals.
> 
> I just joined this newsletter a few days ago, so this is my first posting.
>  My name is Craig Ryan.  I'm a 27 year old graduate student in Omaha, NE. 
> I've enjoyed OTR for at least 12 years or so, but I started enjoying radio
> dramas through the great programs NPR was producing a decade ago.  I have
> a fairly large collection, but my favorite shows are Suspense and the
> Shadow.  Please send me lists of episodes you may have to trade, as well
> as want lists.  I also enjoy old television, and I am proud to have most
> of Have Gun, Will Travel on video tape.
> 	In addition to enjoying OTR, I love restoring old radios to listen
> to it on.  If anyone in the Omaha area has any modestly priced tube radios
> for sale or trade, please e-mail me.
> 
> 	Next, if anyone has any written information on Suspense, including 
> episode lists, please let me know.
> 
> 	In re. Ray Bradbury, I have the entire series Bradbury 13 on tape,
> and as the name implies there are actually 13 episodes.  I'll listen to
> the tapes this weekend to give you the title.  I also believe the date of
> "Night Call, Collect" 28-4-84, since I know it aired one week after The
> Ravine.  If you need these tapes and would like to trade, please e-mail me.
> 
> 	Thanks all, and keep up the great newsletter.
> 
> Craig A. Ryan
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:40:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Staley <rstaley@[removed]>
Subject: where to find c60 and c90 tapes, reasonably priced
Message-ID: <[removed]@netcom11>

I am in need of a good bulk price tape store, mail order, where I may 
purchase cassettes. My original store, Daystar is not open today, and I 
need another alternate in case. I have heard of some place in 
Pennsylvania, Kingtom something, I believe it's Kingdom Records, but I am 
not sure. Can you shed some light on a good place?

Thanks for considering my inquiry.
Ron Staley

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:12:43 PST
From: seh@[removed] (Stan Harter)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RADIO SHACK RADIO-RECORDER
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I goofed. I erased someone's "still on sale" message and bounced
the wrong message to 55 people -- thinking it was the recent message
that cite page number, price, date ending, and radio specifics. I will
cerainly appreciate a rerun.  Mahalo,
--Stan Harter  

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 03:11:46 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwaves <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Senator Claghorn, Senator Bloat, and that rooster
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

	The senator was the original southern blowhard.  He was the last 
and best remembered legislator found in Allen's Alley.  Fred's announcer,
Kenny Delmar, played the role.  Preceding him was Senator Bloat, who I 
think was played by Teddy Bergman (Alan Reed).  There may have been 
others in between.
	These egglayers came before the chicken (or rooster), yet another
radio homage in Warner Brothers cartoons.
	That's a joke, son!

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Date: 03 Feb 96 00:32:02 EST
From: "Francis X. Kelly" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Oldtime Radio Digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Les Paul's recording medium
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

A recent post said:
>>Decades later, Les Paul's work is STILL amazing.
>>(And he did it with phonodiscs *NOT* mag tape!)
Sorry but I'm sure you are wrong.  I worked in a small town radio station in
1952 and even we had good mag tape machines then.  I believe I remember seeing
pictures of Les at the time with his huge Ampex console mag tape machines.  He
worked at home, in his basement in Mahwah NJ if memory serves.
Frank Kelly, Greenport NY

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