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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 19


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Lone Ranger
	 in search of:
	 RE: whistler
	 "Lights Out" Title
	 Remember WENN
	 Remember WENN
	 Fwd: Johnny Mercer
	 Real Audio
	
	 OTR
	 Last Jack Benny Program
	 Remember WENN
	 RE: Official Adv. of The Shadow on Leo The Lion Records
	 Call Signs
	 RE: Lights Out story name quandry

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 15:13:05 -0800
From: AndyBlatt@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger
Message-ID: <960114151304_22421907@[removed]>

In response to Platecap's (Bob B's) comments regarding the Lone Ranger vs.
Gunsmoke.  LR was broadcast more than once a week, like most kids serials.
 The TV version was definitely produced with an eye toward the kids' market.
 It just wasn't as meticulously produced like Gunsmoke.  Besides, Gunsmoke
had great actors, people who had reputations and credentials before Gunsmoke.
William Conrad, Georgia Ellis, Parley Baer, Howard McNear.  The radio show
never had the depth (due to the actors) of the TV Gunsmoke, though this might
just be the difference between radio and TV.  Consider what programs these
radio actors worked on and even if you like The Lone Ranger, (as they said on
What's My Line), "flip all the cards" and tell you it's GUNSMOKE.  Needless
to say, I agree with Bob B.

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 96 17:07:23 PST
From: gcoppen@[removed]
To: "@[removed]":otr@[removed]
Subject: in search of:
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

     Could somebody PLEASE send me ARLELE OSBORNE's address.
It was suggested I contact her but no address was known.
Either email,fax or slow mail would do. Many thanks

                           George Coppen      

                email  me         gcoppen@[removed]
                fax    me         943-2791   area code 204

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 18:23:01 -0600
From: lgenco@[removed] (Louis Genco)
To: [removed]@[removed], mortn2hhc@[removed]
Subject: RE: whistler
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

In the last issue of the OTR Digest,  mortn2hhc@[removed] said:

>I am looking for a whistler episode called "clayton house."  I
>can't find it in anybody's catalog.  I would appreciate any help. 

Mort -

The Whistler episode may be  "The Clayton Affair"   (Apr 21, 1951).
It is listed in my On-line Humongous OTR Database.

Try it (the www page, that is) ... you may like it.

Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 20:11:21 -0500
From: Matthew561@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: "Lights Out" Title
Message-ID: <960114201120_116518386@[removed]>

In the OTR Digest 96-18 jblackie@[removed] Asked:

>The tape was traded from another collector and was labeled "And Adam 
>Begot."  somewhere I had found that this episode is also known as 
>"Across the Gap."  Maybe.  But upon playing it, it turned out to be an 
>episode I had previously obtained (twice, both in bad shape 
>sound-wise) called "Neanderthal." 

> Which episode IS this?  Is it all three.

Tom Althoff's Cat-log has the "Lights Out" title as "Across the Gap" 11-3-42
and repeated on "The Devil and Mr. O' as "Neanderthal Man" show #2.

I have a copy of this program I brought from Metacom  under the title of "And
Adam Begot" and got it from NARA as "Neanderthal".

I have no listing for the show under the "And Adam Begot" title in the source
I checked in

Hope this helps

Matthew Mark Drew
matthew561@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:22:30 -0800
From: davidrj@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Remember WENN
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Just saw the two first in the new original comedy series "Remember WENN" on 
cable's American Movie Classics.
I want to be one of the first to give it a rave.
I review TV for a daily newspaper, and take it from me, this is one of the most 
refreshingly original and downright funny comedy series I've seen in years on 
cable or broadcast TV.
Good performances throughout, and a wonderfully clever and sophisticated script.
Fans of ORT will love it, I predict.
It's like being behind the scenes at a full service, big city broadcast station 
during the golden age of radio.
And best of all, it comes WITHOUT a laugh track. How refreshing! I discovered I 
could laugh on my own, on cue, without being stimulated or cued in by electronic 
laughter.
Dave J, Vancouver USA

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:48:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: wmackey@[removed]
To: "otr@[removed]" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Remember WENN
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Strange there has been no comment about this program on AMC yet.
Saturday night was the first show.  Well, two shows actually.  The first 
was to introduce the cast and the second picked up on the events with a 
hilarious spoof of early talk radio and all sorts of problems.  Bob 
Dorian co-starred as the sponsor.

I thought the first show was funnier.  The writting was witty and sharp.  
I had taped the show to watch later, since I wasn't home and glad I did 
since so many lines were just tossed out I had to back up the tape to get 
them at times.  Sort of like lines tossed out in a Marx Bros. picture.  
You're laughing at one when another comes at ya.  :)

FYI, for anyone keeping personal records of email addresses.  The system 
I am on has created a subsection so I have a new address.  Formerly it 
was wmackey@[removed]  It is now wmackey@[removed]  A bit 
shorter, huh?

BTW, anyone other than Mike Trimble I get to hear Carl Amari's show 
Sunday night?  He does a two hour show (10-midnight cst) with interviews 
of various performers, writers, etc.  Last week he had a writer for 
Myterious Traveler, Strange Dr Weird and another 15 minute show which has 
slipped my mind.  He will do part of the interview then play the entire 
program, no interruptions every five minutes.

I am also able to get WRW with Stan Freberg.  While I miss Chuck Shaden, 
there are a lot less commericals now and the show is better, at least in 
its format.

Rambled enough.  I don't post much, but when I [removed]
Joe Mackey

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 20:04:43 -0800
From: bigbands@[removed] (bigbands )
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Fwd: Johnny Mercer
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

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Date: 15 Jan 1996 03:57:36 GMT
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I am currently researching the works of Johnny Mercer. In particular I
am looking for several things.

He did a radio program sponsored by pepsodent tooth paste. Launched in
June 1943 closed during September 1943(as a weekly feature show) and
then from June 12,1944 to December 8, 1944 as a Monday to Friday (Daily
Show.) All shows were disc transcribed for re broadcast to american
service people.

I am looking for a source to obtain copies of all or some of these
[removed] JOHNNY [removed]

Additionally he served as the Tuesday night announcer for the radio
Caravan Shows(with Benny Goodman from 1/3/39-6/20/39) then with Bob
Crosby will the end of 1939.  Johnny Mercer arranged to record these
performances on 12" 78RPM disks for Personal Purposes.

I am also looking for copies of these discs.

I know that there were some commercial recordings made in the 1980's of
some of these.

Lastly, any recordings of Mercer singing Mercer tunes(ones he wrote)
are of interest regardless of the medium. Several were done with Paul
Whiteman and with Bing Crosby(Kraft Music Hall [removed]

These are also a few albums:

Bobby Troup-Sings Johnny Mercer
Buddy Rich- Sings Johnny Mercer 1955 and or 1957
Buddy Rick Sings Johnny Mercer 1956
Judy Garland "Personal Album"-mid forties
on the Decca Label he recorded with Bing Crosby from [removed]

I know that this user group is not exactly the right place to post this
but I hope that someone can assist and if anyone would re-post this for
me in other places I will be most appreciative. There must be
additional sites on the Internet.

Thanks

Steve Taksler
bigbands@[removed]
Princeton,NJ
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:23:15 -0500
From: AndersonCK@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Real Audio
Message-ID: <960114222314_41873837@[removed]>

For some time, I've been collecting OTR soundbytes in .WAV file format.  Some
I've downloaded from web sites, while others I've recorded on my own.  Have
recently downloaded some in  Real Audio .ra  format,  but am really
disappointed with the sound quality.  

My PC isn't the problem as I'm now running these on my Christmas '95 present
--- a 32 meg Dell Dimension Pentium 120, SB AWE card, Altec Lansing high end
speaker system w/ subwoofer, and  Windoze95.  

A Real Audio player was included with Win95, but after listening to the
initial batch of OTR .ra files, I decided to d/l the latest player from
RealAudio/Progressive Networks to make sure that it wasn't the problem.
After installing the new RA player,  the results were the same.  I then went
back to several of the web sites, and d/l the .ra files again, hoping that
would magically solve the low sound quality.  Again, no change.  And
tinkering with the few options on the RA player didn't do much to enhance the
sounds.

BTW,  the RA player that I d/l included three demo/ "welcome" .ra files
(voice only, no music). The quality of those was pretty good. 

I realize that .ra files are compressed, they save a bunch of hard disk space
on the web server hard disk, and also dramatically reduce download time over
the conventional .WAV file. 

But my experience to date indicates that RA format is not very complimentary
to OTR.  And non-technically speaking, it seems to amplify all the negatives
of those old wheezing, popping, low fidelity OTR sounds that we know and
love.  

Would appreciate any feedback or advice from anyone who has experience with
RealAudio.

Chuck Anderson      

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 23:28:38 EST
From: QEMR58A@[removed] ( DAN P RIAZZI)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

My name is Dan Riazzi. I have been, for 3 + years a DJ on
YUSA Radio, located on satelite. Our location is G-5, 7---
[removed] audio. I am always on the look out for new sources of OTR. I am 
not sure what my Prodigy E mail address is but on 
AOL it is YUSA@[removed] I am interested in joining your
organization.
My mailing address is: 305 Mawani Trail
                                Berkeley Springs, WV 25411

My radio show consists of mostly Amos N ANDY shows.

Thanks,

Dan

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 00:00:30 +0001 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Last Jack Benny Program
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 06:04:26 -0600 (CST)
> From: Bruce Toews <bruce@[removed]>
> To: otr@[removed]
> Subject: Last JAck Benny Episode
> Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
> 
> Thanks to whoever it was (I'm sorry I forgot your name) who provided my 
> answer regarding the discrepancies between my two copies of the last Jack 
> Benny episode. It was interesting going through both of them and 
> discovering what editing had been done - and how well it had been done. 
> Anyone not knowing would never have guessed that Mary's lines were being 
> dubbed in in the edit. I guess tape technology in the fifties was better 
> than I had realized. But why would they have changed Dennis's song, and 
> left a later allusion to the original one in the show?
 
Another possible explanation (which makes more sense to me) is that they 
did two or more performances.  It was common to do one performance for 
the east coast and one for the west coast, both live.  There may also 
have been an Armed Forces version separate from the others.  Why there 
would be differences from one to the other, I don't know, but this may be 
why there are variant versions of the same show.


======================================================================
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
======================================================================

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:06:21 -0800
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Remember WENN
Message-Id: <v01520d00ad1efb3b76f5@[[removed]]>

Saw the first two episodes of AMC's Remember WENN yesterday (Saturday,
5-6PM PST) and was surprised and delighted. The programs were clever,
well-scripted, and with a great selection of well-defined characters.
Obviously it wasn't intended to be absolutely realistic, being essentially
a comedy, but they apparently went to great pains to give it an authentic
look and feel. Overall, I'd call it first rate.

Now, my question to anyone who subscribes to AMC's monthly program
guide/magazine. What's the schedule? I checked *next* Saturday at the same
time and it wasn't listed. Is it weekly? Monthly? What can you tell us?

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 02:06:31 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwaves <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: RE: Official Adv. of The Shadow on Leo The Lion Records
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, Dennis wrote:

> From: DennisD700@[removed]
> Subject: The Official Adventures of the Shadow
> 
> I just read in "The Shadow Scrapbook," (a great book by the way), that the
> last actor to portray the Shadow reunited with the last actress who played
> Margo in a record album called "The Official Adventures of the Shadow." This
> supposedly happened in the late '60s.
> 
> Has anyone ever heard these shows? Are they still available?
> 
This record was part of a series issued in the '60s (could it be that 
long ago? - apparently so).  There is no date on the record that I can find.
The serial number on the LP is CH-1048.  It was not only the  "First 
appearance on records" as the cover states, but the first appearance in 
Stereo! "All new recordings featuring the memorable crime fighter with 
'the power to cloud men's minds' in two gripping dramatizations, THE 
COMPUTER CALCULATES, BUT THE SHADOW KNOWS! and THE AIR FREIGHT FRACAS."
Produced & Directed by Herb Gale, Written by John Fleming.
Cast:   Bret Morrison as Lamont Cranston
	Grace Matthews as Margo Lane
	Santos Ortega as Commissioner Gordon
	Mandel Kramer as Shrevie
Anncr:  Ken Roberts
With:   Bob Dryden and Lawson Zerbe
(Not Authorized for broadcast)  oops!!!
The liner notes refer to Jim Harmon's book The Great Radio Heroes (1967)
so it was produced after then.	
	Although released by an MGM kiddie label Leo the Lion, the 
stories didn't play down to kids.  They were very similar to the radio 
series, but shorter (about 18" each, maybe less).  Nice hi-fi sound, 
especially for the computer episode.
	Other records in the series (from memory, as they are home on the 
shelf) Official Adventures of Mandrake & the Phantom (one on each side),
maybe Flash Gordon (1966), with Buster Crabbe and Jackson Beck (DECOYS OF 
MING THE MERCILESS and FLASH GORDON AND THE MOLE MACHINE) and Off. 
Adv of Aquaman, The Flash, and Green Lantern - this was an odd mix of Golden 
Age and Silver age origin stories.  I think there were other [removed] comics 
characters in this series, like maybe Wonder Woman and Superman, and 
possibly others drawn from comic strips.  
	Of course I may be confusing some of these titles with releases from 
other record labels, but I used to buy as many of these as I could afford in 
my school years.  Gee, I just pulled out my old trading list from the early
'70s, and came up with another title - King Kong! 

	Are they still available?  Only the Shadow knows! But it's highly
unlikely.

	Max Schmid

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 8:20:22 -0500
From: "MACHARG, KEN" <kmacharg@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Call Signs
Message-ID: <0154FA30017E1B00@[removed]>

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Message-Id: <m0tbO5t-000Y1VC@[removed]>

I have compiled a list showing the significance of about 300 1920s
call letters.  The list contains almost all of the requested call
letters of that decade (most calls back then were issued from an
alphabetical sequence).  I have listed below the calls whose
significance I do not know or am unsure of.  If you believe you know
the significance of any of these calls, please e-mail me with that
information and I'll e-mail the entire list back to you.  I actually
posted the entire list to this group recently, but it was apparently
rejected for being too long.  Thanks.

Jeff Miller
New Port Richey, FL

WHOG  Huntington IN
KWCR  Cedar Rapids IA   Cedar Rapids (?)
WFIW  Hopkinsville KY
WDSU  New Orleans LA

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Jeff, My material is at home, but WFIW was operated by a flour company 
and I think stood for "Whitest Flour In the World." The station later 
moved to Louisville and became WAVE, today WAVG. I'll look when I get 
home to make certain this is correct. --Ken MacHarg

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:52:57 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: Lights Out story name quandry
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,
 
Jim Blackie <Jblackie@[removed]> wrote:
 
> I've just been listening to some tapes I either never got to or had
> forgotten, and found something interesting.  The tape was traded from 
> another collector and was labeled "And Adam Begot."  Somewhere I had 
> found that this episode is also known as "Across the Gap."  Maybe.  But 
> upon playing it, it turned out to be an episode I had previously obtained 
> (twice, both in bad shape sound-wise) called "Neanderthal."  It involves 
> a car filled with 2 men & a woman, traveling down a road in Europe when they 
> turn a curve, car goes out of control, they go down a cliff and awaken in 
> Neanderthal times, meeting with (of course) a killer Neanderthal who breaks 
> the arms & legs of the men (while the woman is off looking around) and 
> prepares to kill them later (for food?).  Strange, historically WRONG in 
> its depiction of the Neaderthals, but good fun, away.  Which episode IS 
> this?  Is it all three?
 
I also got this one via trade.  It was labeled LIGHTS OUT: "The Neanderthal".
It's been a while since I listened to it and I don't recall if the title was
announced at the beginning but the plot is the same as yours.  (Mine was also 
of bad sound quality).
 
I have a LIGHTS OUT log someone sent me (no name on it, so I don't know the 
source) that listed a show of Nov. 3, 1942 with a title of "Across The Time 
Gap" with a second title of "Adam Begot" and a _third_ title of "Neanderthal
Man".  Really adds to the confusion.
 
Frank

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