Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #241
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 6/27/2002 8:14 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 241
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Aldrich Family                        [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Martin and Lewis in mp3?              [ Greg Przywara <gmprzywara@students. ]
  Hal Stone                             [ "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed] ]
  Let's get back on topic               [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: More Rexall                       [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Rexall [removed]                     [ Kelli Stanley <ks4color@[removed] ]
  The Hoagie                            [ "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed]; ]
  Rexall                                [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  RE: Hoagies                           [ "Steven C. Thoburn" <scthoburn@adel ]
  Rexall                                [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
  Re:Rexall TV Commercials-One Cent sa  [ "TIM LONES" <tallones@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:16:57 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Aldrich Family

The four cast members who I understand are still around from the Aldrich
Family are Eddie Bracken, Jackie Kelk, Dickie Jones, and to the best of my
knowledge Mary Shipp.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:17:04 -0400
From: Greg Przywara <gmprzywara@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Martin and Lewis in mp3?

Does anyone know where I can find a good repository of episodes of the
Martin and Lewis show in mp3 online? OTR Vault has nothing.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:17:22 -0400
From: "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hal Stone

Bravo to Hal Stone's piece, in digest 239, about censorship-very well said.
I am not a prude either, but my family quit watching network TV years ago.
My wife records TV from Nick and other stations that play old sitcoms and we
watch them later.  We have never watched "Friends" or any of the other new
series, they have gotten so raunchy that we can't stand them anymore.  Of
course there are a lot of good programs on the History channel and others
and there is always my [removed]
Anyway, well said Hal.

Roby McHone
Fairbanks, Alaska

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:52:33 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Let's get back on topic

I was forming my reply to Hal when I read the post by Irene Heinstein. I could
not have said it better. I am a liberal and I don't think that I am
responsible for all the ills of the world because of it. Lets get this list
back on topic which happens to be old time radio, not politics. And that
remark about J. Edgar Hoover has no place in this list. What does it matter
what his personal life was or was not as far as this list is concerned. What
is that quote about casting the first s tone?

I joined this list to learn about old time radio, get opinions and facts.
Please, lets get back on track before too many feathers are ruffled.
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:49:17 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: More Rexall

On 6/27/02 2:31 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

I still see the old Rexall orange and blue signs on
some pharmacies in small towns.  It makes you think they are still in
business in rural America at least, but they apparently they are not
"Rexall" as we remember them - just continuing the nostalgia, and
the memories that linger on,  I guess.

There are still a couple of Rexalls in my area -- one with a very
impressive blue-and-orange neon sign that hasn't worked in at least
twenty years. Rexall signage is all over the store, but not a Rexall
product to be found. In addition, the pharmacist at this store was
recently busted for illegally supplying scheduled drugs to the local
junkies -- which goes to show that Small Town America isn't all that it's
cracked up to be.

A couple of additional notes, while on the Rexall subject -- in my
previous post, I attributed the United Drug Company to John Liggett. It
should have been his father, Louis K. Liggett.

Another bit worth mentioning is that one of the most infamous scandals
ever to involve the American pharmaceutical industry involved Louis
Liggett and the United Drug Company -- the "Ginger Jake" affair of
1930-31. At that time, a medicinal preparation called "Fluid Extract of
Jamaician Ginger" was a popular Prohibition beverage -- given that it was
70 proof, it had quite a kick when mixed with Coca-Cola at the soda
fountain, or consumed straight. The extract was an expensive product to
manufacture, however, and in 1931 the Hubb Company of Boston -- a United
Drug subsidiary -- was caught manufacturing adulterated "Ginger Jake,"
cut with an inert substance which they thought was harmless, but which
was actually a toxin which had a paralytic effect on the spinal cord.
Over 20,000 people were permanently paralyzed as a result of drinking
this adulterated "Ginger Jake," and up to 100,000 more contracted "jake
leg," a partial paralysis which caused them to walk with an odd hopping
gait, before the FDA managed to get control of the situation and pull the
contaminated product off the shelves of Your Friendly Rexall Druggist.
The incident was immortalized in a rash of blues songs recorded between
1930 and 1934 -- with "Poor Boy" Lofton's "Jake Leg Blues" (Decca 7076)
perhaps the best known.

Elizabeth

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:50:03 -0400
From: Kelli Stanley <ks4color@[removed];
To: OldRadio Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Rexall [removed]

There is at least one Rexall that has a good chance of staying that way
for a very long time.  The town of Ferndale, CA (Northern CA, near
Eureka, Humboldt County, Redwoods) is a State Historic Monument and its
Main Street is on the National Register of Historic Places.  No business
can alter its premises without entangling in reels of red tape.
Ferndale is known as "The Victorian Village", is quite beautiful, and
often doubles for idyllic small towns or spooky East Coast hamlets (both
the recent film "The Majestic" and the TV Stephen King creeper "Salem's
Lot" were shot there).  And, thankfully, there is a Rexall drugs (Ring's
Pharmacy) on Main Street, which itself is historic and features 100 year
old wooden fixtures along side newer endcases of Beanie Babies.
Whenever I visit (my parents live near Ferndale), I always buy something
from the wonderful drug store.  Nearby, a family-owned department store
(Lentz) sports a collection of antique radios (not for sale) above the
racks of clothes, yarn and sewing notions.
If you visit Northern California, Ferndale is must! :)  For more
information, go to the web page at:
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--

Kelli Stanley
[removed] student, Classics

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:02:17 -0400
From: "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Hoagie
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Until I read the original posting in this thread, I'd never heard the hoagie
(as I knew it) associated with the composer, Hoagy.  I spent the mid-1940s in
suburban Philadelphia, where the hoagie made its first appearance around 1946.
We understood then that it had come to us from South Philadelphia, an Italian
ethnic enclave if ever there was one.  Hog Island lay in the Delaware River
nearby, and it is entirely possible that the sandwich---or at least its
name---originated with the war workers there.  I'd never heard that before
this thread either, but I find it far more believable than the Carmichael
connection.  By the way, the world's best hoagies are still to be found in
Philly's Reading Terminal Market.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:03:02 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Rexall

Russ Butler said:

I still see the old Rexall orange and blue signs on
some pharmacies in small towns.  It makes you think they are still in
business in rural America at least, but they apparently they are not
"Rexall" as we remember them - just continuing the nostalgia, and
the memories that linger on,  I guess.

Russ, there is still a Rexall with orange and blue sign on Telegraph Ave. in
Berkeley,. a half block away from UC.   It's quite a landmark and is even
listed as a point of interest for tourists.  I'm sure that if it ever closed
there would be quite a protest.
Irene

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 20:12:35 -0400
From: "Steven C. Thoburn" <scthoburn@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Hoagies

When I was in the US Navy (late 70's and '80's)  I was stationed in a place
that referred to them as "Grinders".  This would have been either Great
Lakes, Ill, or New London, Conn.  A quick internet search shows this name
used in Ohio and Mississippi, also.  I always thought that it was kinda dumb
that a sandwich shop just outside a Naval base didn't go with the name
"submarine", but that's just me.
     To bring some OTR relevance to this subject, I was pleased no end to
find that some WWII era variety shows were broadcast from the Great Lakes
Naval Training Center, where I spent boot camp.  (I've since found a picture
of Glenn Miller performing there).  As a fan that discovered OTR only after
its demise, it was nice to get a feeling of personal connectivity- to think
that I spent several months marching across the hallowed ground once graced
by the Glenn Miller Orchestra!

Steve

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:16:02 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Rexall

I found those posts about experiences in Rexall drug stores to be
captivating.  May I share mine?

I grew up in Charlotte, a city favored with a 50,000-watt powerhouse (the
third commercial station licensed in America) which maintained a
proclivity for a great deal of live audience participation programming.
This may be a surprise to those of you living in or near New York,
Chicago, Detroit, LA and other mega metropolises--that Tar Heel country
had anything beyond rip 'n' read newscasts and hillbilly disk jockeys.

Every weekday morning for many years in the 1940s and 1950s WBT offered
two live productions, What's Cookin'? from 9 to 10 [removed] and the
Strietmann Streetman (named for the sponsoring cracker) from 11:30 to
11:45.  Hundreds of times during school vacations I was in their
audiences.  The first was a warm-up contest-driven show with music,
guests, games and lots of banter and competed against The Breakfast Club
at that hour and was a warm-up to Arthur Godfrey Time.  When Godfrey went
off 90 minutes later, the other local feature came on, a live "talk show"
conducted under the marquee of a downtown theater, asking opinions of
passersby on the topic of the day, and seeing who came closest to a
prize-driven question of the day.

But all that is preliminary to my purpose here.  In between acts (or
shows), I invariably made my way to "The Square" (so dignified as "The
Crossroads of the Carolinas," where Trade and Tryon streets intersected).
 In the northwest quadrant of that important downtown corner sat a
Liggett's Rexall Drug Store.  And inside it, at the fountain, were the
most wonderful beverages I felt anybody could ever have, including a lime
rickey and, especially, a blended grape lime rickey.  My lawn-mowing
money went into a lot of dime coolers in those days.  Then I'd peruse the
drug store's magazine counter to see if the new issue of Radio and
Television Mirror was in yet (25 cents then), and occasionally pick up a
Lone Ranger, Red Ryder or Little Lulu comic book for a dime.

Those were good memories.  I read Elizabeth's report on Liggett's with
great interest, and your individual tales of recollections in Rexall
stores have been refreshing.  We probably need more first-hand
experiences from our own youth and childhood days.

Jim Cox

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:43:27 -0400
From: "TIM  LONES" <tallones@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re:Rexall TV Commercials-One Cent sale

One of my  pastimes on the internet along with OTR, has been to look for
Video clips from Old [removed] months back, I happened to find a page
about an animated TV special, Alice in Wonderland that aired  on ABC-TV
March 30, [removed] Hanna Barbera production, it starred Janet Waldo, Bill
Dana, Howard Morris, Harvey Korman, Zsa Zsa Gabor and Sammy Davis [removed]
making an appearance were Alan Reed (as Fred Flintstone) and Mel Blanc (As
Barney Rubble)
     I found this at [removed].  Along with audio
clips of some of the musical numbers, there are 2 RealVideo clips of Rexall
commercials (One just over a minute, one over 2 minutes) done by members of
the cast in character, extolling the virtues of the "second item for a penny
sale"  I didnt remember this special until seeing the commercials.  They
were kind of neat to see.  I think the special is available through
[removed] site has many Original televised cartoon packages,
including Calvin and the Colonel from Freeman Gosden and Charles
[removed] sale.
     Sorry for the length of the post, and going off topic some.  I thought
with the Rexall discussion it was [removed]

Tim Lones

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