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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2001 : Issue 402
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
BBC Favourites [ "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed]; ]
re: prominent figures quiz [ GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@ ]
Re:GE Stereo Theater [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
Re: MP3 Players [ "Larry & Caren Cohen" <[removed]@acsa ]
R to R tape deck manuals [ Fred Korb <fkorb@[removed]; ]
Re: Perry Como and "Kraft" [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
Kraft Music Hall, Bing, Berle and Co [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Re: Cardboard Records? [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
Real Crime Dramatizations [ Mike Kuypers <mkuypers@[removed]; ]
Re: Captain Midnight [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
Today in Radio History [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Eugenia on the air [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
RE: Archos Jukebox and others [ Michael Mewborn <mmewborn@designgro ]
MP3 on DVD players [ "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed]; ]
DVDs & MP3 [ "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl ]
Maybeland Maps [ "Donald B. Strong" <donsplace@earth ]
More re: "And Now the News, 1945" [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
Re: Today in Radio History [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
Offspring [ "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@hotmail. ]
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:57:34 -0500
From: "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: BBC Favourites
On 15 Dec 2001 Allen (AandG4jc@[removed]) wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite program that was produced
by the BBC? I know that they produce mystery/dramatic
shows like Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie. Does
any know if they produce comedy shows?
Yes, the BBC have produced a few comedy shows, and continue to do so today.
Past comedy shows that would constitute OTR include (from the 1940s) BAND
WAGGON, ITMA, HAPPIDROME, THE WILL HAY SHOW, MUCH BINDING IN THE MARSH,
WATERLOGGED SPA, VARIETY BANDBOX, OVER THE GARDEN WALL, OUR SHED; (from the
1950s) THE GOON SHOW, HANCOCK'S HALF HOUR, RAY'S A LAUGH, MEET THE HUGGETTS,
TAKE IT FROM HERE, LIFE WITH THE LYONS, EDUCATING ARCHIE; (from the 1960s)
THE CLITHEROE KID, THE NAVY LARK, THE MEN FROM THE MINISTRY, JUST A MINUTE,
I'M SORRY I'LL READ THAT AGAIN, THE AL READ SHOW, THE KEN DODD SHOW. And
dozens more (apologies to any British readers whose favourite shows I've
just left out).
Today the BBC are still broadcasting comedy shows (in many cases, on the
internet as well as over the air), such as I'M SORRY I HAVEN'T A CLUE, JUST
A MINUTE, THE NEWS HUDDLINES, and THE MONKHOUSE ARCHIVE. These shows run for
about 6 weeks each, every three months, alternating with other shows.
The regular comedy spot is [removed] GMT ([removed] EST) each weekday on BBC Radio
4, where the BBC broadcasts a 30 minute show that is usually a comedy. You
can see their broadcast schedules by going to
[removed] or you
can go straight to the BBC Radio 4 page at [removed]
where you'll find details of how to tune in on-line using RealPlayer.
The BBC shop in London - and the BBC shop at BBC America - both sell
cassettes and CDs of whichever BBC radio (& TV) shows they're currently
promoting). (A full list of BBC links is at [removed] )
The BBC shop in London is the one that deals with OTR shows. It's on line at
[removed];shop=bbc&mscssid=75F3KAUKWA
SR2N880002U40F6E1C83C9
(follow the link to the comedy department). For the current shows you can
also go to the BBC America site at
[removed]
For further information about any of the above OTR radio comedies, go to
[removed] which has details about dozens of BBC
comedy shows, including OTR ones.
I'm not connected with the BBC in any way, but I do run a website dedicated
to a comedy series which they made in the '60s, The Clitheroe Kid, starring
the comedian Jimmy Clitheroe.
Sandra Skuse
[removed]
English OTR comedian Jimmy Clitheroe
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:58:32 -0500
From: GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re: prominent figures quiz
It's approaching bedtime, and I don't have the
time this evening to research Martin's list. But two
names jump out at me:
Abe Lyman. I assume that this is the famous
bandleader of the 1920s and the 1930s. A young Dale
Evans was his vocalist at one point in his career.
E. Deutsch. I assume that this is the 1930s and
1940s bandleader Emery Deutsch. Some of his (many)
musical critics dismissed his somewhat Gypsy/Fritz
Kreisler violin stylings as "sounding as though his
strings were soaked in chicken fat," but I always
rather liked his stuff.
Both men had extensive network radio exposure.
George Wagner
GWAGNEROLDTIMERADIO@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:08:02 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:GE Stereo Theater
At 12:01 AM 12/17/01 -0500, you wrote:
What can anyone tell me about a series called something like "GE Stereo
Drama Theater" . Was it network or syndication? Weekly or daily?
Eric Cooper
I recorded one of these shows off the air in stereo. It was recorded
sometime around 1964. I just looked at the tape and I didn't date it, but
am guessing at the date based on the type of tape I used.
For some reason, I think it was a daily show. I don't think it had a long
run. I'm again remembering something about there being only 5 shows. Which
is why I think if ran daily. Well, except for having taped one of these
programs, I'm afraid I can't be of much help with your other questions.
The show itself was done as a stage play rather than a radio drama. It
sounded like it was performed on stage. There was an audience and the sound
effects, of what there were, sounded as though they were made by the actors
as they actually performed the act that created the effect.
The show I have is "The Pleasure of His Company".
Fred
For the best in Old Time Radio Shows [removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:08:16 -0500
From: "Larry & Caren Cohen" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: MP3 Players
Deffinitely!!! I would take a few different MP3's recorded at different bit
rates, and try them out. I drove the guy in Comp USA crazy, but I ended up
getting a riovolt. They now have one that has an FM radio, but it played
even my windows media stuff. The problem that I found with the 6gig model
was that I like to change my stuff and in reality (even though it is alot of
space) when I go on a trip, I bring at least 8 - 10 mp3 disks with me and
that is more than 6gig. Just my opinion
Larry
Anchorage, Alaska
Where it's 10 below zero :-(
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:08:44 -0500
From: Fred Korb <fkorb@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: R to R tape deck manuals
Dear Fellow Readers,
My name is Fred Korb and I am the Secretary of a group of OTR collectors
called the ORCATS. We are the Oldtime Radio Collectors And Traders
Society. We collect, trade, and archive OTR using a method many call
outdated and do this using reel to reel tape. This brings me to my
question for your help.
I recently came into several R to R tape decks, of several makes and
models, for our group. Unfortunately these tape decks did not have any
operation manuals with them. Even though most of the controls and
switches are straight forward, there are a few that require a manual for
proper setup. If you have any manuals for the following makes and
models, please email me off line, so I can get the original manual or
copy thereof. These are the ones I am looking for: Akai 1722W, Akai
1730D-SS, Akai 4000D, Akai 4000DB, Akai 4400, Realistic TR-3000, Sony
TC-355, Sony TC-366, Sony TC-377, Sony TC-378, Teac 2300S, Teac A2300SX,
Teac 3300S, Teac 4010S, and a Teac X-3. If you have any of these manuals
I would appreciate an email.
Thank You,
Fred Korb - Secretary
ORCATS
fkorb@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:11:49 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Perry Como and "Kraft"
Jer5147 posted:
I took exception to Harlans post that Perry had a thirty minute program on
tv for Kraft Foods. I remembered the sponsor to be Chesterfield. Harlan wasnt
sure and i wasnt 100% sure.
Far be it for me to start a controversy. In my declining years, "I'm a
Lover, not a "Fighter" as the expression goes.
I seemed to have inadvertently opened up a can of worms about Perry Como
having a half hour show on NBC on Wednesday Nights, Sponsored by Kraft.
The only thing I wasn't sure of Jer, was the dates. I wasn't talking about
TV, but radio. And he was sponsored by Kraft at the time I was referring to.
To make sure of my facts, I checked with my back-up source for such trivia,
namely, Bob [removed] seeing as how we were both there at the same time.
(His memory works better than mine, despite the fact that he's old enough to
be my father). :) I was all of 18/19 back then, and too busy doing "mature"
teenage stuff like chasing girls and hanging out with my buddies. Dates and
Times were not etched on my brain. I just showed up for work when they told
me to be there.
All I know is, we received a hefty pay check ($[removed] per episode) from NBC
for The "Archie Andrews Show" when we moved to "Prime Time" Radio, Wednesday
Nights, as the summer replacement for Perry, sponsored by Kraft. It
definitely was not his 15 minute Radio show sponsored by Chesterfield. That
was earlier.
To back up my claim, I have, in my hot little hands, a two page "publicity"
photo spread from a Entertainment magazine of the period, that does a silly
layout about "Archie" dreaming about becoming a famous singing star and
taking lessons from Perry.
In addition, I poured through my Show Biz memorabilia, (Which was no easy
task since it is terribly disorganized), and found my NBC Contract that
covered that specific time slot.
The terms stated that the "Archie" Kraft Sponsorship was for a 13 week
period, Commencing June 8, 1949, and terminating August 31, 1949. The 1ˇ2
hour Program to be aired at 8:30 PM [removed] (Interesting, the contract
specified NYT, and not EST). I guess that Time Zone designation was to come
later.
Now, I will concede one point. Possibly I was wrong about Perry's show being
called the Kraft Music hall on Wed. Nights. (But I vaguely recall that was
the title). But he was definitely sponsored by Kraft in that time slot.
Then again, it's possible that if Perry's show for Kraft was a 1 hour
program back then, perhaps Kraft bought two half hour shows to fill that
time slot, with the "Archie" Show being one of them. ([removed]! My
OTR credibility is at stake here. :)
A. Joseph Ross also mentioned that in the 50's, Kraft sponsored a TV Program
titled "The Kraft Television Theatre" on NBC. Coincidentally, I also
appeared as an actor on one of those shows. I think it was titled "The Pale
Blonde of Sand Street". (One of a few TV shows I did in the early days of
Live TV, before I got smart and switched from performing to TV production).
It was done out of NBC's very large former Radio Studio 8H, converted to
handle TV programs by having all the audience seats and the huge raised
stage removed. Interestingly enough, appearing on that show with me, both of
us in supporting roles, (and in his first TV job), was Fred Gwinn. Of "Car
54, Where Are You", and "Herman Munster" TV fame. Not to mention his
eventually starring in a host of Feature films. A really nice, unassuming,
gentle giant.
Switching gears, I referenced, in a totally different posting, that Frank
Sinatra also appeared on the 15 minute Chesterfield [removed],in addition to
the other singers mentioned. Even though he might not be credited as such, I
know for a fact that he made appearances on it. I would occasionally ride up
on the NBC elevators with him back then.
As a side [removed] Whenever I bumped into him, he looked like hell. All
skin and bones, and his skin pallor was pale gray/green. (I think that was
when he was heavy into booze and stuff). I also remember that my view of
Sinatra back then was quite jaundiced as well, (pun intended) so it may have
influenced my reaction to his appearance.
As "mature" teenage males, most of "us" resented the young Sinatra all to
hell because of the way the "Teeny Bopper" girls made such a fuss over him.
All the Newsreel footage of the time showed nothing but swooning and
hysterical young females mobbing the Paramount Theatre when he was appearing
there. Plain and simple, we were jealous of his "charisma", and couldn't
understand why such a scrawny looking guy was getting all the attention,
instead of handsome and virile looking devils like us.
In later years, I became a big Sinatra fan, so don't get on my case about my
Teenage point of view. As they say in [removed] Hadda been there! :)
Hal(Harlan)Stone
"Jughead"
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:12:38 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Kraft Music Hall, Bing, Berle and Como
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:29:45 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
Subject: Kraft Music Hall
Kraft then made a deal with Perry Como, by which he took over the Wednesday
night slot, running for an hour. Ignoring the fact that Milton Berle's show
the previous year had been called the Kraft Music Hall, Perry Como's first
Kraft Music Hall show began showing a radio studio, with a silhouette of
Bing Crosby, and the announcer's voice over saying that at some specified
date, "Bing Crosby closed the doors to the Kraft Music Hall." Someone (I
forget who) came out and gave Perry Como the keys, supposedly on behalf of
Bing.
According to Dunning, Bing shut the KMH doors on May 9, 1946 (pg
386). It went through a variety of hosts until Al Jolson took over from
May 2, 1947 to Sept 22, 1949 when it went off the radio air. Bing was
the longest running host, from the 1936-1946 season. I seem remember
Bing wanted to to use some new fangled thing called audio tape so he
could several shows over a few days so he could spend more time on the
golf course. :)
Hence by the time Como took over Bing hadn't been associated with KMH
for about 10 years. He did have a Philco Radio Time, which was much
like the KMH, from 1946-49 on ABC, which did allow him to tape his
shows. He continued in a variety of radio shows as host until 1956.
I don't know much about the radio version of Kraft Music Hall and would
appreciate seeing some postings on the subject.
I'm sure you will learn about the show on this list than you cared to
know. :)
Joe
--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:13:36 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cardboard Records?
From: "Dave" <davewh@[removed];
All this talk of cardboard records finally moved me to root
around my basement.
Frightening, isn't it. I know MINE is!
So I'm sitting here looking at a 10 inch 78 cardboard Hit of
the Week record. "When The Organ Played At Twilight" by
Fio-Rito's Music, Lew White, Organist. This was a hit?!!
Well, it was a slow week. :-) The previous week's hit was "My Baby Just
Cares For Me" which was a hit. Your record is 1105B, and was recorded
around Sept. 1930 and was released on Nov 19, 1930. It appears that the
vocal was by Frank Luther, who later became most remembered for making
children's records, but had started out as a pseudo-country singer.
It's a brown shiny plastic-like coating on the playing side and
plain cardboard on the reverse. Made by Barium Products Corp., NY.
Look again, it's Durium Products (The thought of Barium gives me
unpleasant images.) I discussed these back in Digest 366 from Nov 14,
and mentioned that sometimes there are broadcast announcers like Tony
Wons on them, and that the company also made advertising records that
sometimes had OTR recordings. I also mentioned a web site based in
Holland that discusses them, and by coincidence I just got notice that
they are starting a new section devoted to the plastic Flexis that we
have also been discussing. Possibly during the break I'll have time to
get them some scans and info on these, including some of the ones I
discussed here a few days ago. You can join up in the different areas
of the site thru the priview at [removed]
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:13:51 -0500
From: Mike Kuypers <mkuypers@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Real Crime Dramatizations
I would recommend TALES OF THE TEXAS RANGERS. Similar to DRAGNET, but with a
western flavor, the stories are set in contemporary Texas. Jase Pearson
(Joel McCrea) is the lawman who spots the slightest clue and trades his
wheels for a horse when the terrain calls for it. The stories are dramatic
and usually begin with the crime being committed.
As to whether or not THIS IS YOUR FBI episodes get better with time, that's
a matter of taste, I'd say. TIYF isn't one of my favorite series, but it's
far from being the worst. "The Return of St. Nick" is a nice holiday
episode.
Mike Kuypers
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:15:40 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Captain Midnight
Does any one know who played Fang on the old Skelly Oil Captain Midnight
series?
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:20:16 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in Radio History
From Those were the days --
1936 - Ventriloquist Edgar Bergen kidded around with his pal, Charlie
McCarthy (who was a bit wooden, we [removed]), for the first time on
radio. The two debuted on The Rudy Vallee Show on NBC. Soon, Bergen
became one of radio’s hottest properties, and was called Vallee’s
greatest talent discovery.
Joe
--
Visit my home page:
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:05:50 -0500
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Eugenia on the air
A recent posting stated:
From Those Were The Days --
1907 - Eugene H. Farrar became the first singer to broadcast on radio.
He sang from the Brooklyn Navy Yard in New York. The song? Do You Really
Want to Hurt Me?
Joe (I doubt this was the same song done by Boy George )
It wasn't Boy George, but it wasn't boy Eugene either. The singer was
Madame Eugenia Ferrer, a very popular and notably female concert
performer, who visited Lee deForest's experimental station in New York
to become possibly the first major artist to appear on the radio. (I'd
guess that Reginald Fessenden's wife was the first to sing over the
radio, but I try to avoid declaring "firsts").
Ferrer came to Dr. deForest's lab, took a look at the weird apparatus
and when invited to sing she supposedly remarked, "well, here goes
something into nothing", an opening line worthy of Fred Allen. The
listening audience was small in those days for a medium that was still
being invented, but wireless operators across the river at the Brooklyn
Navy Yard couldn't avoid picking up the signal and -- once again, this
may be apocryphal -- thought they heard "angels singing in the air."
Such stories are wonderful but can easily be confused. And here I must
offer an auto-da-fe and get something off my mind. In "The Airwaves of
New York" I quote Mme. Ferrer but confused her with Geraldine Ferrar,
another popular opera and concert performer of the time (not to be
confused with former US Representative and vice-presidential candidate
Geraldine Ferraro). So I know you can't believe everything you read.
Apologies to all. I didn't mean to hurt anybody.
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:10:06 -0500
From: Michael Mewborn <mmewborn@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Archos Jukebox and others
Let me begin by saying that I have been lurking for awhile on the list and
thoroughly enjoying it. Let me further add that I have no vested interest in the
products to be discussed.
Now, in response to Shawn's comment about seeing what amounts to a hard disk with
an earphone, I own one. It is called an Archos jukebox. It consists of the box
which contains a 6 GB hard drive and MP3 player, a headset, a USB cable and
rechargeable batteries w/ ac adapter/recharger.
In a word, I love it.
I bought it at Best Buy in September and use it constantly. I can load over 800
half-hour radio shows and still have room for some music as well. It does take
some time to load it over the slow USB connection, but then it contains
programming that lasts me a considerable amount of time. The shuffle mode of play
allows me to hear fresh programming every time I use it. I've not found any mp3
formats that it will not handle. It works equally well with Windows or Macintosh
computers.
My complaints are: the display doesn't show enough data, and there is no easy way
to locate a particular program on it. In my case, these are minor complaints. I do
recommend that you get the extended warranty. After about 6 weeks, the battery
charger or batteries or a combination on mine failed and Best Buy handed me a new
one on the spot.
There are other models available from different manufacturers as well as a 20 GB
model from Archos. I'm thinking of giving my 6 GB to my wife and getting a 20GB
for myself. It should hold about 2500 half hour programs. Now with extra long-life
batteries I could look to get stranded on that desert island.
Michael Mewborn
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:11:54 -0500
From: "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 on DVD players
Harry Machin Jr. wrote:
I wonder why the CDs from one dealer will play and those from
another dealer won't. When I put in MP3 CDs from the latter,
I get an on-screen message that the player will not play the
disc. Both dealer's CDs will play in my PC, though.
In a word, bitrate. Many DVD players are not capable of playing mp3 files
that are encoded at a bit rate below 32,000 bits per second,
so if your mp3 files are recorded at 24 k/bps or at 16 k/bps (the so-called
"surestream" rate), they simply won't play in many DVD machines.
Sandra Skuse
[removed]
Remembering English OTR comedian Jimmy Clitheroe
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:39:12 -0500
From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: DVDs & MP3
My question about playing MP3 recordings generated a lot of mail,
both private and on the Digest. I appreciate all of the comments. I
did communicate with the dealer who sold me the MP3CDs that
my new Panasonic DVD/CD player would not handle, and he
explained why he recorded his CDs in the way he did. I can't
fault him, since it was my ignorance of such things as "bit rates", etc.,
that made me think that any DVD machine (advertised as one
with "MP3 capability") was okay. Had I known more about the
MP3 recording methods, I would have done what one gentleman
said he did --- take my CDs to the store and find a machine
that played them. Perhaps the dealers who sell OTR on MP3
should clearly state how their CDs are recorded, in order to
help the less knowledgeable (like me).
Harry Machin, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:49:11 -0500
From: "Donald B. Strong" <donsplace@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Maybeland Maps
Due to the generousity of Mr. Dennis Crow, both original and "colorized"
versions of the map of Maybeland, as well as a text file explaining the
background of how the map was created are posted for viewing and
download at
[removed]~donsplace/goodies/
--
-- [removed] (donsplace@[removed])
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:40:07 -0500
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: More re: "And Now the News, 1945"
Thanks to all the people who wrote me asking how to contact Mr. Hobler, the
author of this wonderful, enjoyable book. Actually, I received all the
information (and the book) through Hal Stone. For further information, may
I suggest that you use the Email address which was included twice in my
original posting. Or contact Hal.
"Just one more, Mr. [removed]"
OTR fans please take notice: Inadvertently in editing my posting, I
omitted the one item which I especially should have included for inclusion
in the OTR Digest, to wit:
Most daily pages in "1945" include a mention of entertainment on the radio
that night in 1945, including show names, host, and visiting guest stars
and celebrities.
They also mention movies of the time, stage shows and musicals, some of
which also include those great OTR performers.
This in itself makes the book a valuable addition to OTR fans' archives.
Of all the things for me to leave out of my entry on OTR Digest. Drat!
This comes under the heading of "If at first you don't [removed]"
Happy holidays! Lee Munsick
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:59:21 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Today in Radio History
Joe Mackey reported 16 Dec 2001 From Those Were The Days:
1907 - Eugene H. Farrar became the first singer to broadcast on radio.
He sang from the Brooklyn Navy Yard in New York. The song? Do You
Really Want to Hurt Me?
No I really don't want to hurt you, Joe, :-) but Gene would have been
about 50 weeks late to be considered to have been the first singer to
broadcast on radio. There were some songs sung--both live and
recorded--during Reginald Fessenden's two broadcasts on Christmas Eve
and New Year's Eve 1906.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:55:12 -0500
From: "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Offspring
Hi & Happy Holidays to one and all.
I may be wrong, but wasn't singer Joel Grey the son of comedian Mickey Katz?
Jay
"The only good radio is OTR
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