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Date: 6/25/2005 9:57 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 193
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Paul Winchell, [removed]                 [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
      Hooper Ratings 1943/1944              [ "Bob Pedersen" <bobbyp@[removed]; ]
      Re: people turned inside out          [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Re: Hooper Ratings 1943/1944          [ Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; ]
      All Gas and Gaiters                   [ Jandpgardner@[removed] ]
      6-25 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Cassette gourmands                    [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
      pinch roller cleaner                  [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Arlene Francis                        [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Vic and Sade Data collection          [ "Louie Johnson" <ljohnson@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:34:39 +0000
    From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Paul Winchell, [removed]

    One of the heroes, and delights, of my childhood.

    And a genius.

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    Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:34:49 +0000
    From: "Bob Pedersen" <bobbyp@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hooper Ratings 1943/1944

     > Does anyone know of a source for obtaining the Hooper Ratings for radio
     > shows of 1943 and 1944?

    Joe:

    They are available at
    [removed]'[removed]

    Bob Pedersen

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    Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:35:00 +0000
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: people turned inside out
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    About the sound effect of a man being turned inside out, Bob Pedersen writes:

     > Arch Oboler apparently made the sounds by crushing
     > a berry basket while simultaneously turning a wet rubber glove inside out.

    I once heard some other story about a sound created by hot water bottles full
    of jelly or Jell-O and Popsicle sticks being turned inside out via some
    wire/pulley device.  Was that the same story at another time or some other
    show/story?

    Dixon

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    Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:35:09 +0000
    From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Hooper Ratings 1943/1944

    Hooper Ratings for the 1930's, 40's and 50's can be found at this
    site   [removed]'[removed]

    Regards,
    Ken Dahl

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    Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:01:26 -0400
    From: Jandpgardner@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  All Gas and Gaiters
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    Regarding Mike's further query, the word 'gas' is used in the title of  this
    series in the sense of talking a lot of hot air (empty talk). The  combination
    of the 2 nouns in the title just means 'nonsense' and, indeed, that  is
    exactly how 'The Chambers Dictionary' defines the phrase.
    John.

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    Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:31 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  6-25 births/deaths

    June 25th births

    06-25-1887 - George Abbott - Forestville, NY - d. 1-31-1995
    broadway producer: "Stagestruck"
    06-25-1891 - Cliff Soubier - d. 9-xx-1984
    host: Howard B. Thurston "Thurston the Magician"; Dwight Twentysixer "Vic
    and Sade"
    06-25-1893 - Charlotte Greenwood - South Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-18-1978
    comedienne: "Life with Charlotte Greenwood"; "Charlotte Greenwood Show"
    06-25-1895 - Donald Gallagher - Quincy, IL - d. 8-14-1961
    actor: P. Wallace Carver "Houseboat Hannah"; Humble Dickinson "Joan and Kermit"
    06-25-1897 - Wilkie Mahoney - d. 7-1-1976
    writer: "The Bob Hope Show:
    06-25-1898 - Jack Roth - d. 2-12-1980
    drummer: (Memphis Five) "The Jimmy Durante Show"
    06-25-1899 - Arthur Tracy - Kaminetz-Podolski, Russia - d. 10-5-1997
    singer: (The Street Singer) "Street Singer"; "Music That Satisfies"
    06-25-1903 - Anne Revere - NYC - d. 12-18-1990
    actress: "Cavalcade of America"
    06-25-1903 - Earl Ebi - Hollister, CA - d. 1-24-1973
    director: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Vic
    and Sade"
    06-25-1908 - Larry Berns - Philadelphia, PA
    producer: "Jack Carson Show"; "Our Miss Brooks"; "Lum and Abner"
    06-25-1911 - Martin Gosch - d. 10-20-1973
    producer, creator, writer: "Abbott and Costello Show"; "Amazing Mr. Smith"
    06-25-1911 - Reed Hadley - Petrolia, TX - d. 12-11-1974
    actor: Red Ryder "Red Ryder"; Chad Remington "Frontier Town"
    06-25-1913 - John Pickard - Lascossas, TN - d. 8-4-1993
    actor: Grant Thursday "Pretty Kitty Kelly"; Bruce Barrett "My Son and I"
    06-25-1915 - Peter Lind Hayes - San Francisco, CA - d. 4-21-1998
    actor: "Jack Benny Program"; "Texaco Town"; "Ford Show"; "Lum and Abner"
    06-25-1918 - Ken Mayer - California - d. 1-30-1985
    actor: Robbie Robertson "Space Patrol"
    06-25-1919 - Bill Manhoff - Newark, NJ - d. 6-xx-1974
    writer: "Duffy's Tavern"; "Hollywood Showcase"
    06-25-1924 - Phil Nowlan - d. 4-20-2002
    writer: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century based on Nowlan"s comic strip
    06-25-1924 - Sidney Lumet - Philadelphia, PA
    actor: "Let's Pretend"
    06-25-1925 - June Lockhart - NYC
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"
    06-25-1925 - Virginia Welles - Wausau, WI
    actress: Cosette (Older) "Les Miserables"
    06-25-1966 - Bogus Wednesday Sayles - Milwaukee, WI - d. 6-11-1980
    whippett dog: From whom my ID comes from

    June 25th deaths

    05-12-1924 - Tony Hancock - Birmingham, England - d. 6-25-1968
    comedian: "Hancock's Half Hour"; "tutor to ventriloquist's dummy Archie
    Andrews "Archie Andrews"
    05-26-1914 - Ziggy Elman - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-25-1968
    trumpet: "Benny Goodman Orchestra", "The Tommy Dorsey Show"
    08-09-1903 - Maurice Wells - Nebraska - d. 6-25-1978
    actor: Donald Putnam "Your Family and Mine"; Warren Biggers "Lawyer Tucker"
    11-10-1891 - Sidney Breckner - Illinois - d. 6-25-1945
    sound effects: "The Hermit's Cave"
    11-18-1909 - Johnny Mercer - Savannah, GA - d. 6-25-1976
    singer: "Camel Caravan"; "Johnny Mercer's Music Shop"; "Dinah Shore Show"
    11-29-1900 - Mildred "Axis Sally" Gillars - Portland, ME - d. 6-25-1988
    propagandist: Radio Berlin
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:43 -0400
    From: wilditralian@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cassette gourmands

    04-25-05

    Much has been said lately about a dirty pinchroller causing a cassette
    machine to begin eating tapes until the transport function finally slows
    to a stop, and the last sounds from the recorded program appropriately
    resemble burps, indicating that the machine has -- to its ample
    satisfaction -- ingested your precious old-time radio tape.  Everything
    so far has been true, but one primary cause has been missed.  It involves
    the mechanisms that drive the supply and take-up reels.

    Because the tape is pulled past the play/record head at a constant speed
    (1-7/8 inches per second), the supply reel is moving its slowest rpm when
    full at the beginning of the program, and at its fastest at the end of
    the program when it is almost empty.  Every second, 1-7/8" are pulled off
    of it, which represents many more revolutions on an almost empty reel
    than it does on a full one.  The take-up reel, by the same logic, starts
    out fast and ends up going slowly.

    Since the motor that drives these, through a series of belts and pulleys,
    is running at a constant speed, each of the reels is driven by a
    felt-surfaced clutch that is always slipping.  If a machine tends to eat
    tapes toward the end of the program -- when the take-up reel is full --
    and rarely at the beginning, the problem likely lies not with a dirty
    pinchroller but with the take-up reel clutch having inadequate friction
    (caused either by improper tension adjustment or a worn friction surface
    or oil invasion from somewhere).  When the take-up reel is full (at the
    end of a program), its rpm is very low, therefore there is much more
    slippage in the clutch., at a time when it has the least mechanical
    advantage.

    If the problem *is* in the take-up reel clutch, you are living a charmed
    life, indeed, if you can find someone who knows how to fix it.  If you
    *do* find someone like that, he's probably so old that his eyesight isn't
    good enough to do it any more.  If you can find someone who knows how to
    do it, *can* do it, and doesn't charge three times the price of a new
    machine, you are certainly blessed.  At this point, the only people who
    know how to fix these things are 55 and older, and by the time they're 65
    their eyes aren't good enough to do it.  Today you have a 10-year window
    ... which is getting narrower as we speak.

    Incidentally -- when you clean that pinchroller, don't forget to clean
    that piece that it pinches the tape against, [removed], the capstan.  That's a
    little revolving post about the diameter of the skinny end of a Cross
    ball-point pen refill.  Be very careful when cleaning *this*, however,
    because at its base is a permanently lubricated bearing, and if any of
    your cleaning solvent gets down in there it can wash out the lubricatant.
      The bearing is sealed well enough to keep a liquid with the high
    viscosity of an oil from seeping through, but not necessarily well enough
    to prevent a liquid of much thinner viscosity (like alcohol) from
    penetrating in.

    Here's an unrelated tip.  Don't use the PAUSE control for long periods of
    time.  On most machines, all it does is electrically disconnect the
    transport motor.  It does not mechanically disengage the
    capstan-tape-pinchroller pinching effect, and the capstan is sitting
    there making its impression upon a stationary (therefore, highly
    impressionable) pinchroller, (through the thickness of the flexible tape.
      If this impression upon the pinchroller becomes permanent, everything
    you play will have a quality called "flutter", and all your OTR actors
    will sound like Kathryn Hepburn in her later years.  (I won't say her
    "declining" years -- that magnificent woman never declined;  the switch
    just turned off.)

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    Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:53 -0400
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  pinch roller cleaner

    TASCAM makes a product called "Rubber Cleaner Conditioner" for rejuvenating
    rubber rollers in tape decks.

    Hold your nose when you use [removed]

    joe salerno

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    Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:43:12 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Arlene Francis

    Tom Kleinschmidt asks:

     > Can anyone recommend a dealer who has OTR shows
     > featuring Arlene Francis? Fred Berney's found John Daly news stuff, but
    almost
     > nothing with Arlene Francis.

    I've been looking for audio copies of Arlene's "Affairs of Ann Scotland"
    for many years, but this series probably has no surviving copies. (About
    now I'd settle for copies of the scripts.)

    But Tom, I do have a nice copy of the 15 minute episode of the soap,"Betty
    and Bob" in which Arlene and Carl Frank were the leads. Since this episode
    was the first on of the season, only 10 minutes was devoted to the drama
    while the last 5 minutes consisted of Arlene interviewing her fellow radio
    cast members and talking "off-script" about the series.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:47:15 -0400
    From: "Louie Johnson" <ljohnson@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Vic and Sade Data collection
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        There are a lot of Vic and Sade fans out there, and Barry Walters and
        I invite you to join us in our efforts to preserve this series and all
        its delicious intricacies for future generations. We are building a
        huge database of purely Vic and Sade data, which we hope to turn into
        a website in the future. We are getting lots of help from Friends of
        Vic and Sade, without whom this gem might have been forgotten long
        ago. For details or just to join in the half-wit discussions, visit
        (and bookmark) the Vic and Sade Phorum:
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        We look forward to having you join us.
        Louie Johnson

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