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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 491

Table Of Contents: 

	 WENN Christmas Special
	 re: Self-referential sitcoms
	 Ted Meyers
	 Bill Pfeiffer
	 Baer Fact?
	 A Shadow of his former self
	 Maltese Falcon on the radio
	 Adventures of Sam Spade
	 KNX Drama Hour
	 old radio never dies
	 Seasons Greetings/Resolutions
	 iCHAT help!
	 Re: otr Digest V96 #482
	 All New Radio & no [removed]

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:22:27 -0800
From: "DAVE JEWETT" <davidrj@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: WENN Christmas Special
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Just received this news release from AMC at the newspaper where I work, and
thought I should share the gist of it:

"American Movie Classics brightens this year's holiday season with the
premiere of an original one-hour Christmas program on Saturday, Dec. 21 at
9 [removed] (EST).
"Tony Award-winning actress Betty Buckley guest stars in this heartwarming
"Remember WENN" special. Buckley performs two originally produced songs,
"Christmas is Waiting" and "You Make it Christmas," both composed by Tony
Award-winner and series crteator Rupert Holmes.
"The staff of radio station WENN is gearing up for an old-fashioned
Christmas with all the innocence and optimism of America in the year before
Pearl Harbor. Their elaborate Christmas broadcast is filled with
unseasonable thorns by the station's principle stockholder and former
musical star, Gloria (Buckley), who pulls the plug on all acknowledgements
of Yuletide, on-air and off.
"Peter Noone, formerly of Herman and the Hermits, also guest stars and
performs traditional Christmas songs."

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:13:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Elizabeth Thomsen <et@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: re: Self-referential sitcoms
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Thanks to John Henley for his message about the other self-referential
aspects of "Fibber McGee and Molly."  I was surprised when I heard the
self-references in the first episode of "The Great Gildersleeve," because
that show never breaks the suspension of disbelief with such references
(at least in any other episodes that I have heard.)  The ads are clearly
separated from the show, and although there are times when Harold Peary
makes an announcement or some such thing (for example, congratulating the
citizens of Gildersleeve, Connecticut, on their 100th anniversary) these
are also clearly separate from the "drama."  In that sense, "The Great
Gildersleeve" is a modern-style sitcom.

Now that I understand how self-referential "Fibber McGee and Molly" was,
this all makes sense.  "Gildersleeve" is a spin-off, and the train
sequence in Wistful Vista is a perfect transition between the two shows,
and the two styles of show.

Of course, many of the other sitcoms were far more self-referential, with
the announcer actually being an announcer.  Burns and Allen carried this
over to television, with George Burns having his little monologues
delivered to the audience-- "What Gracie doesn't know is [removed]
what happens [removed]"  It's interesting that in the 1980's and 1980's,
comedians like Gary Shandling and Jerry Seinfeld have gotten a lot of
attention for hip, modern, self-referential comedies that are much like
the old radio and early TV programs.

Speaking of "breakthrough" programs, Mary Tyler Moore has been interviewed
on TV and in magazines lately, because of her book, and they always
mention how her show was the first to feature a single career woman.  What
about "Our Miss Brooks" on both radio and TV?

Elizabeth Thomsen

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 11:36 PST
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ted Meyers
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 the [removed] Times printed an obituary for Ted 
Meyers over the weekend.  He was 82.  Ted was the familiar voice on 
Channel 9 TV for many years, but I remember him as a young staff 
announcer at KFI, which is where I landed his autograph in the 
mid-1940s.  He seemed to be a genuinely nice man. 

Bruce Toor


 Thanks to Bruce Toor for this information from Los Angeles.  Ted Meyers was
Chief of the KFI Newsroom for many years before moving to TV at Channel 9.
Ted was the consummate newsman and did many news, and other shows for KFI
during his years there.  He was, indeed a genuinely nice man, always
laughing and ready to help out when I was a neophyte at KFI.  He was always
the subject to gags there, as he was known as the man who no one could
"break up" on the air, no matter what kind of situation they put him
[removed] everyone tried!  He was the guest of honor at a SPERDVAC gathering
just a few months ago.

Lois Culver

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 11:42 PST
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Bill Pfeiffer
Message-Id: <m0vaoMG-000PYQC@[removed]>
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I'm sure I speak for many who would like to know Bill Pfeiffer's situation
now, after the disastrous burning of his home and all his belongings.  Bill,
will you give us an update on how your Mother and you are doing?

I hope everyone will pitch in and help during this holiday season, to share
with these two people in their hours of need.

Lois Culver

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:56:18 -0600
From: Joe Oliver <joliver@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Baer Fact?
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        Does anybody know if "the Wheaties Man, Frank Martin, the commercial
announcer on Nightbeat, is really Parley Baer doing a straight announcer
voice?  It sounds like him to me. If so, this just confirms again, that this
man can do anything!

                                                      Joe Oliver
W. Joseph Oliver
Department of Communication
Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, TX  75962

     (409-468-4001)

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:11:48 -0500
From: Andrew Rodriguez <nasty@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: A Shadow of his former self
Message-ID: <[removed]@LOCALNAME>
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Hi there, 
        and a Happy holidays to you all. Once more I must express my thanks
to you and this Newsgroup. I've been enlightened and educated on more than
one occassion by the quality of the answers I've gotten. Now to re-cap. I'm
producing in January two Shadow episodes with my Theatre group "The Nasty
Attic Players". We'll be performing "The Silent Avenger" and "The Nursery
Rhyme murders". Now, I suspect that Orson Welles had a hand in the script of
the "Silent Avenger"? Anyone? I'm also very interested to hear your insight
on the ideas of 
1) Doing radio on stage. 
2)Favourite voices of the Shadow and why? 
3) Does anyone have an episode where Margo and Lamont are romantic? 
4)Does anyone have more info on how they pitched the "Special Agents" aspect
to the kids. Were there secret Agent passwords [removed] "The sun is
[removed]" "[removed] the ice is slippery. 
5)and lastly for now (Greedy ain't I!).... Anything you think worth knowing
about the Shadow in order to do a [removed]
                Andy at "nasty@[removed]  

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:33:18 -0500
From: E J M Duggan <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Maltese Falcon on the radio
Message-ID: <199612190333_MC1-D7A-5E16@[removed]>

On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Joelsiegel@[removed] wrote:

> [removed] does anyone out there have easy access to lauren bacall on otr?
> all she has are four bold ventures and she'd love to hear more
(especially a
> maltese falcon she did with humphrey bogart on lux radio theatre).

I know there is a Lux version of The Maltese Falcon, but I never knew
Bacall was in it.
William Nolan writes that Edward G. Robinson, who was on the list to be
offered the part of Spade in Huston’s 1941 film, actually got to play the
part in the Lux Radio Theatre version, broadcast in 1943. (Nolan, _Hammett:
A Life at the Edge_ 1983: 147).

BTW, if anyone has a copy of this production (or, indeed, any of the other
radio productions of 
The Maltese Falcon), I'd be interested in a trade.


Eddie Duggan

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:33:16 -0500
From: E J M Duggan <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Adventures of Sam Spade
Message-ID: <199612190333_MC1-D7A-5E15@[removed]>

Hello OTR-ers :-)

I've been lurking for a little while, so now, rather than jump *straight
in* with a question, I think it
might be polite to introduce myself first.  I'm interested in Sam Spade and
the maltese falcon, 
though my interests are being widened by reading the digests.

I heard about the list through the newsgroup [removed] so that might explain
where I 'come from' 
in terms of interest.

Will we talk about the black bird? <g>


John Henley <jhenley@[removed]> wrote:

[SNIP]

> Then, in the show "coda", they would sometimes talk about the fact that
> they were to be on an upcoming episode of some other show, but they'd be
in
> character while discussing this. (In fact, so far as I know, they _never_
> were out of character, except when saying goodbye for summer vacation.) 
> Or, in the coda, they'd discuss the fact that they appeared in the
current
> issue of a radio fan magazine.  Now, _that_ sort of thing also transpired
> on The Adventures of Sam Spade, at least once, where Howard Duff and
Lurene
> Tuttle, as Spade and Effie, clucked over the pictures of the actors
playing
> themselves - namely, Howard Duff and Lurene Tuttle.  That was funny.

I know there are some episodes of The Adventures of Sam Spade that are
based 
more-on-less on some incidents in (or take their plot-lines from) Hammett's
Continental Op 
stories, but does anyone recall any episodes of the Adventures of Sam Spade
in which radio-Sam, Howard Duff (or Stephen Dunne), refers to any events in
or characters from the novel The Maltese Falcon?

(Polhaus and Dunbdy, obviously feature in both the _Falcon_ novel and the
SS radio series, but I'm wondering if there are specific references to, for
eg, Spade's late, albeit despised partner, Archer; to Iva, Archer's widow
and Spade's former lover [indeed, does anyone know if Iva ever puts in an
appearance in the radio shows?]; or to Brigid O'Shaungnessy, Gutman, Cairo,
Wilmer, or even to the dingus itself?)

The Hotel Belvedere features in some SS radio stories, though the House
Dick is no longer Luke, the hotel detective in the novel.  Does radio-Spade
ever 'recollect' his first trip to the Belvedere, when he was on the Black
Bird caper?

Any comments/suggestions gratefully received,


Eddie Duggan

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:12:09 -0800
From: "Jeff Fuller" <Jefuller@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: KNX Drama Hour
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If anyone here in southern California is interested, I've just learned that
KNX will be adding six new shows to their drama hour. This begins at the
start of the new year. These are the shows they plan to add:

The Whistler
Adventures Of Sam Spade
Adventures of Phillip Marlowe
Our Miss Brooks
Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar 
Have Gun, Will Travel

I don't know what will be removed from the lineup for these replacements.
My guess is that NightBeat, Hopalong Cassidy, Sgt. Preston of the Yukon,
The Falcon, Dragnet, and Gunsmoke will be removed because they've been
around for quite a while. But that's only my guess. 

For more information, you can check the KNX Drama Hour website:
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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:27:39 -0500
From: vintage@[removed] (Andy Blatt)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: old radio never dies
Message-Id: <v01540b01aedf678c6c58@[[removed]]>
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My version for the ending for "Old 0radio never [removed]"

It just inspires bad movies.  (That movie with Alec Baldwin)

Inspires good TV shows.  (Remember WENN).


Andy Blatt

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:29:11 -0500
From: vintage@[removed] (Andy Blatt)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Seasons Greetings/Resolutions
Message-Id: <v01540b01aedfaa3b58a8@[[removed]]>
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Happy Holidays to everyone!  Don't forget those resolutions!

Andy Blatt
Vintage Broadcasts

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:02:22 -0500
From: "[removed]" <cdandrea@[removed]>
To: otr digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: iCHAT help!
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Can anyone that uses iChat ( a plugin for netscape) tell me what I need
to do to Chat on starklink with the OTR fokes?

1) I installed the plugin
2) I went to Lou Genco's WWW page and clicked on #oldradio chat
3) ichat comes up and I get connected to [removed]
4) I type in /join #OldRadio
5) It does nothing and times out.

Do I need to switch to another starlink site? if do how?
Do I need to set something else up?

Thanks :)
cdandrea@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:59:50 -0500
From: RadioCM25@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: otr Digest V96 #482
Message-ID: <961219225949_1221812473@[removed]>

What about Bob Poole (pronounced POO) out of WWL New Orleans years ago, a
night disc jockey with unusual sound effects, who went to the Mutual Network
in NYC and seemingly disappeared from hearing?

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:04:50, -0500
From: DFEQ02A@[removed] (MR JOSEPH   ANDOLINA JR)
To: OTR@[removed]
Subject: All New Radio & no [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I recently heard a Canadian "All News Radio" station on AM,  and I 
found it interesting that their logo is as followes: (be warned, I 
paraphrase) - "Canada's only all news radio station - no talk, no 
music, and even no Old Time Radio,  just all news!" -  Anyway, I had 
to laugh at that!  I guess that OTR has become so popular with radio 
rebroadcasts these days, the station had to stress their point about 
NOT having OTR on their lineup!  WELL,  I say,  let the popularity of 
OTR as well as new time radio drama keep on growing!!!  We'll be the 
more richer with entertainment on radio for it,  not just the all 
music, all talk, all news aspect of [removed]

Joe



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