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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2001 : Issue 281
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Oxydol [ "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@hotmail. ]
Bea Benaderet [ "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@hotmail. ]
OTR Spouses [ "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@hotmail. ]
Phillip Morris and Blondie [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
ONE MORE OLDIE [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
OLD GUYS IN THE BIZ [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
Pete Kelly's Blues, an Epilouge [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Fred Allen/Allen's Alley and Duffy's [ "John and Reuel" <drevesrj@[removed]; ]
Pete Kelly's Blues, an Epilogue [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Grand Canyon Suite [ "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed] ]
Phillip Morris Background Music [ "ArtFunk" <ArtFunk@[removed]; ]
NBC ownership [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
demographic data [ Jon Martin <mart459@[removed]; ]
RE: More Slogans [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
Re: Demographics Survey [ "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed] ]
Demographics Survey [ JBeck57143@[removed] ]
Philip Morris [ John Politis <politisj@[removed] ]
Johnnys background music [ "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed]; ]
OLEO OR ? [ "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed]; ]
Crisco et al [ KirkG12797@[removed] ]
Johnnys background music [ Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed]; ]
Posting In all caps [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
Re: Bea Benaderet role [ Thomas Butts <trbutts@[removed] ]
Coca Cola [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Product Avails & OTR [ "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet. ]
Larry Keating [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Richard Evans [ "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@charter- ]
White King Soap [removed] [ "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed]; ]
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [ lois@[removed] ]
Re: Grand Canyon Suite [ Jshnay1@[removed] ]
age [ Allen J Hubin <ajhubin@[removed]; ]
callll for phillip morriiicce [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed] ]
Words at War [ khovard@[removed] ]
United Jewish Appeal [ khovard@[removed] ]
Destination Freedom [ khovard@[removed] ]
Re: Who Told The Joke First? [ Wboenig@[removed] ]
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:25:38 -0400
From: "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Oxydol
Hi all,
Eric Cooper was quite right about different sponsors for east and west.
I remember Charles Mickleson once remarking the when the Shadow
was being done in front of a "live" audience the commercial announcers
would step into a phone booth on the side of the stage and do their timed
commercials for the feeds to the different parts of the country. Blue coal
for midwest or the east (I don't know which) and to the west, I believe it
was for Groves 4 Way Cold Tablets. And there probably was another
announcer for some other regional area.
However I do remember that Ma Perkins' sponsor for the Los Angeles
area was indeed OXYDOL at least from 1943 to about 1950 because
my mother always listened.
'Til next time, Jay
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:25:51 -0400
From: "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bea Benaderet
Hi again,
Ivan mentioned that Bea Benaderet at one time was married to Jim Bannon.
Once when I was doing some work with sound effects man Gene Twombley,
Jack Benny's sfx man, someone said did you know Gene's wife is Bea
Benaderet? I wonder was this before or after Jim Bannon?
Again 'til next time, Jay
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:26:12 -0400
From: "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Spouses
Hi again,
Sorry to take up so much space, but in listening and reading to the men
and women of OTR, I have often thought it would be interesting to see a
list of who was married to whom. There are few people with the same last
names, that I often wondered if they were related. Of course some have
become obvious, such as Sam & Jack Edwards and Bill & Jack Johnstone.
Were Michael Ann Barrett & Tony Barrett brother & sister or man & wife?
Just curious. Jay
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:24:04 -0400
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Phillip Morris and Blondie
Jer51473 asked if anyone remembered who "Blondie's" sponsor was. I'm not
sure who the "main" one was but for sometime at least it was
Colgate-Palmolive-Peet, one of the main products that I remember was
"Super Suds" but there were other Colgate products advertised as well.
I'm sure that many others will also tell you that the Phillip Morris
theme was "On the Trail" Ferde Grofe's classic from the Grand Canyon
Suite. I doubt that Grofe had camels in mind when he wrote it, but then
why not? I always loved to hear it played when I was a youngster and
occasionally we'd get lucky and get an extra long version of the theme
without any talking over it. I remember being amazed when I found out
that it actually was part of a whole classical piece and not just
commercial music.
George Aust
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:24:37 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ONE MORE OLDIE
When the values go up, up, [removed]
And the prices go down, down, [removed]
Robert Hall's the [removed]
Sandy Singer
A DATE WITH SINATRA
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:24:34 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OLD GUYS IN THE BIZ
I'm 70 and STILL in the biz. I'll die in front of a mic -- matter of
fact, I already have--many [removed]
Sandy Singer
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:38:15 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Pete Kelly's Blues, an Epilouge
When visiting my mother, who, being 94, lived as a young woman during the
Prohibition Era, I brought over the movie version of Pete Kelly's Blues.
She loved it, though she generally didn't listen to the radio show. The
1955 film was consonant with the radio shows, and was directed by Jack
Webb. It provided a partial origin story, and was set shortly after the
radio series timeline ended. For those who wish to immerse themselves in
the Pete Kelly atmosphere, the film provides more than an hour and a half
of it. Great music, too.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:14:38 -0400
From: "John and Reuel" <drevesrj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fred Allen/Allen's Alley and Duffy's Tavern
I can vividly remember growing up in Chicago, in the 40's. One of my
favorite pastimes was sitting on the floor in front of a floor model Zenith
radio, which also had short-wave that never worked for me. My favorite
programs were Fred Allen and his wonderful "Allen's Alley" and Duffy's
Tavern. I have searched the internet, but hopefully not in the right places.
Can anyone out there give me an address where I could listen to an episode
or two from these two great old radio shows. Hearing those old broadcasts
sure would bring back some great old memories of me and my family enjoying a
Sunday evening in front of the radio. I hope someone out there can steer me
in the right direction.
John
drevesrj@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:20:27 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Pete Kelly's Blues, an Epilogue
When visiting my mother, who, being 94, lived as a young woman during the
Prohibition Era, I brought over the movie version of Pete Kelly's Blues.
She loved it, though she generally didn't listen to the radio show. The
1955 film was consonant with the radio shows, and was directed by Jack
Webb. It provided a partial origin story, and was set shortly after the
radio series timeline ended. For those who wish to immerse themselves in
the Pete Kelly atmosphere, the film provides more than an hour and a half
of it. Great music, too.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:20:37 -0400
From: "Art Shifrin" <goldens2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Grand Canyon Suite
"On the Trail" is perhaps the most well known portion of this wonderful
American composition. It was composed and orchestrated by Ferde Grofe
(accent missing over the third [removed] don't know how to type that in email).
Grofe also significantly contributed to the success of George Gershwin's
"Rhapsody In Blue": he orchestrated it. I presume that within the last
few years the estate of George Gershwin was raking in even more than usual
royalties because themes from "Rhapsody" were often used in airline
commercials (United or American, I don't recall which at the moment).
Best,
Shiffy
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:20:43 -0400
From: "ArtFunk" <ArtFunk@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Phillip Morris Background Music
Wasn't that from the Grand Canyon Suite by Ferde Grofe?
Art Funk
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:21:17 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: NBC ownership
Ed Ellers comments:
Wasn't RCA itself owned 60-40 by GE and Westinghouse -- meaning that GE
really had 60% of NBC?
Actually, at the time of inception, Westinghouse did not own that much. In
1920, AT&T was sold a [removed] share in RCA stock to give RCA access to the De
Forest Audion patents owned by AT&T along with access to that company's
telephone lines.
In 1921, an agreement was made with Westinghouse, an AT&T subsidiary, for
[removed] percent of RCA stock in exchange for patent license rights to Howard
Armstrong's regeneration circuit, which Westinghouse owned. That same
year, United Fruit, which had a majority share of a company which owned the
patent to the loop antenna. United Fruit, which used wireless communication
for its business received a [removed] percent share.
Then in 1922, AT&T realizing that it was not profiting from the 600+
broadcast transmitters that were supposed to be using AT&T equipment (less
than 40 percent were using it). AT&T decided to sell its shares of RCA
stock and start up a rival business, forming among others, WEAF.
But AT&T was to soon realize that it might be moving toward monopolistic
waters and ultimately sold its broadcast interests to RCA, which then
formed the National Broadcasting Company.
So, by the time NBC was formed, the share interests were approximately only
20 percent for Westinghouse, while RCA owned the majority of the rest.
Ed also mentions:
Another thing that tends to disprove the General Electric theory is that the
company was (and still is) abbreviated GE, and *never* GEC
While I also don't subscribe to the GEC for General Electric - NBC chimes
theory, General Electric *was* officially called the General Electric
Company. All of their legal papers at that time reflect that name.
Jim Widner
jwidner@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:21:34 -0400
From: Jon Martin <mart459@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: demographic data
Hi all;
as per a request, I will post the data that has been posted and sent in a
few emails as
to the average age. (and children if that was pu tin as well) Politics will
be mentioned as well but not by name :)
Probably in a week or so - my excuse is that I just tore a knee and am on
painkillers
and less lucid than I should be for a posting.
but so far from the direct emails I am the youngest at 41. I have not gone
through the last two
mailings of the OTR list due to the above mentioned malady.
Thanks to all who do respond!
Jon M.
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:21:57 -0400
From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE: More Slogans
Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed]; posted:
Here's another round of radio ad slogans -- with the difficulty level
ratcheted up a
[removed]
Well, I didn't get them *all*, but I did get a few:
1. "Eat three cakes of Fleischmann's Yeast daily." (Ah, the
[removed] tones of Rudy Vallee)
2. "That Good Gulf Gasoline!" (Will Rogers broadcasts - complete with alarm
clock)
3. "Your ticket of admission -- your loyalty to XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX!"
This one is making me nuts 'cause I've *heard* it - in fact, I can hear it
now: a mellow voiced announcer, slightly muffled because the recording is
old, an orchestra playing in the [removed] dramatic anthology
series, maybe?
4. "Use Pepsodent toothpaste twice a day -- see your dentist at least
twice a year."
Weren't they sponsoring A&A at this time?
6. "There is no spit in Cremo." (cigars - Bing's first sponsor: "The Cremo
Singer" - and I hope Elizabeth explains this slogan, 'cause it's worth
retelling!)
7. "Watch the Fords go by!"
About 1935, yes?
9. "Get a Lift -- with a Camel!"
They still give me a lift - comes from the sudden lack of oxygen to my
[removed]
10. "XXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXX -- for the skin you love to touch!"
Got this [removed] it Vasoline related?
Fun stuff, folks - keep them coming!
Harlan
Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
[removed]
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:22:04 -0400
From: "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Demographics Survey
Just to lower the average a little - I'm 20. I know there's at least
one person here who's even younger than I am.
Jennifer
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:55:50 -0400
From: JBeck57143@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Demographics Survey
I'm 34. I've only been collecting OTR since March.
Jim Beck
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:55:59 -0400
From: John Politis <politisj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Philip Morris
My Little Margie began with the "Call for Philip Morris" pitch.
John Politis [removed]~politisj
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:56:29 -0400
From: "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Johnnys background music
The background music while Johnny did his CALLLLLLL FOR PHILLLLIP
MORRRRRRRIS
was "The Grand Canyon Suite" composed by Mr. Gershwin.
Nope, Mr. Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue was orchestrated by Ferde Grofe for
the Paul Whiteman's Orchestra's premiere of the composition. Maybe Mr.
Gershwin rode one of Ferde Grofe's mules "On the Trail."
Ed Kindred who was born in the Grand Canyon State shortly after the canyon
was formed.
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:05:36 -0400
From: "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OLEO OR ?
Folks -- Thanks for the report on Clark gas stations. Years after the
admusic was gone, it would still play in my mind's ear. :)
- ----------------------------------------------------------
(COLD OPEN)
ANNCR -- "And now, it's time for Uncle Jim's story time. What's the topic,
for today, Uncle Jim?"
JIM -- "Gosh and golly! Thanks, Mr. Announcer Man."
(COPLAND -- 'GROVER'S CORNERS' FROM "OUR TOWN," UP AND UNDER FOR --)
"This story goes back to the days of oleo versus butter. Twas on a
Thanksgiving Day where my extended farm family was awaiting a big turkey
dinner. And, of course, back in those days, "dinner" was what we now-city
slickers call "lunch." So, there sat the uncles and aunts talking about
crops and livestock. The huge table was nearly set, except--
It was my very forward Uncle Bill who, after reaching for a roll asked,
"Hoy (that's South Dakotan for "hey") -- where's the butter?" And there
was dead silence. For my uncle had opened the dreaded butter versus oleo
debate. And this was a crowd not open to the oleo side, for we were all
farmers.
My mom hurriedly brought a dish full of the yellow stuff. But what yellow
stuff, the collective minds churned. (yeah, a deliberate pun!) Was she
playing a trick, foisting the disgustingly poor substitute for the real
thing? Or was [removed] There was a huge pause as my mother looked at the
dish. All eyes darted between her and the mystery schmeer.
"There! And that's REAL creamery butter. By God!"
This was followed by shouts and clapping. And what a festive time that
was!
And that's today's heartwarming story, Mr. Announcer Man."
- --------------------------------------------------------
ANNCR -- "Thanks, Uncle Jim, that was indeed a heatwarming story, directly
from your brilliant and famous steel-trap mind. And, as usual, it was very
well-researched. Oh, by the way, Uncle [removed]"
JIM -- "Yes, Mr. Announcer Man?"
ANNCR -- "Uh, would you mind calling me Burt?"
JIM -- "Uh (RATTLES SCRIPT, FRANICALLY TRYING TO FIND THIS AD LIB, IN
VAIN) -- er -- uh--"
ANNCR -- "Join us again next time for Uncle Jim's Scrapbook. This is the
OTR Radio Network."
###
Jim Stokes
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:05:47 -0400
From: KirkG12797@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Crisco et al
Reading over the recent strings about advertising reminded me, as so many
things about OTR often do, of a Bob & Ray bit. Wasn't Mary McGoon sponsored
by "pure, all-digestible chicken fat" (or maybe that waas "non-digestible")?
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:15:36 -0400
From: Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Johnnys background music
From: Cnorth6311@[removed] write:
The background music while Johnny did his CALLLLLLL FOR PHILLLLIP MORRRRRRRIS
ad was "The Grand Canyon Suite" composed by Mr. Gershwin.
"The Grand Canyon Suite", by Frede Grofe' is composed of several movements. "Sunrise" -
"Painted Desert" - "On The Trail" - "Sunset" - and "CloudBurst". The Suite was first recorded
with a symphony orchestra by Andre Kostelanetz in 1941.
Bill Harris
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:15:55 -0400
From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Posting In all caps
To all subscribers of the digest: I would like to
extend my appologies to every one for sending my
postings in all cap lettering. I was unaware that
useing all caps ment shouting. I am still new to the
computer and computer maners. I hope no one was
offened by my error. Several kind people have
e-mailed
me about my mistake and I am greatfull. Thank you
all for your kindness and understanding in this
matter!!!!
Sincerely, Lynn Wagar
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:06:37 -0400
From: Thomas Butts <trbutts@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Bea Benaderet role
Bea Benaderet was in at least one episode of Richard Diamond [9/20/50] in
which she played a murderous headresser.
Tom Butts
Dallas, TX
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:47:55 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Coca Cola
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:33:48 -0400
From: "jay ranellucci" <jayran33@[removed];
Well originally Coca Cola contained "Coke" or cocaine until the government
made them remove it. Til next time, Jay Ranellucci
I've heard this before, and I've wondered whether this is true or just
apocryphal. Can one of our history experts tell us whether this really is
so? And, if so, the details?
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:48:23 -0400
From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Product Avails & OTR
For the last couple of issues we've talked about products and whole
companies that have "gone by the boards," so to speak, only to hear of
regional availability. That got me to thinking about other discussions we've
had about trademarks and copyrights - I wonder how many American companies
issue licenses of their famous trademarks to overseas companies or resurrect
the products regionally in the States or in Canada just to keep them
"active" and therefore protected?
For example, I know for years you couldn't buy a Pontiac Tempest in the US
but you could in Canada (Funny thing, though, it looked EXACTLY like a
Chevrolet Corsica!)
Do you think there's a bottle of Johnson's GloCoat on some store shelf in
Taiwan or Burma just in case?
Brj
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:48:47 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Larry Keating
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:56:43 -0400
From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
LARRY KEATING MADE THE JUMP TO TV WITH BURNS & ALLEN
CAST. HE WAS IN MY OPINION THE BEST HARRY MORTON OF
ALL OF THEM TV OR RADIO!!!!
According to Alex McNeil's book, =Total Television= , Hal March, John
Brown, and Fred Clark also played Harry Morton on the TV show. I think
I've seen some reruns with Fred Clark. The dates you give are all after
the TV show started, in 1950, so I suspect that the character was
created
after the TV show started and appeared on both, with the same cast.
I vaguely remember Larry Keating on "Mr. Ed." As I recall, he played
essentially the same pedantic character that he played as Harry Morton.
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:49:22 -0400
From: "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Richard Evans
Hi Anybody,
The name of Richard Evans was brougt up as being the announcer on the
Morman Choir radio program in Salt Lake City and if my memory serves me (I
sometimes can't remember what I had for breakfast) but for years Robert
Hyland ,KMOX radio in [removed] ,was the manager there who played a short
religous message around 6:00 [removed] in the morning by a Dr. Richard Evans , who
had died years earlier , and I was wondering if the two Richard Evans were
one in the same?
These recorded messages were played for several years and were played
until Robert Hyland himself died I wonder how many messages were recorded by
Dr. Evans?
Till Next Time,Harold
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:49:35 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: White King Soap [removed]
[removed]"Chanduuuuuuuuuuuu, the Magician!"
Howard Culver did the opening and closing of Chandu, the Magician, and did
the commercials for White King Soap.
Lois Culver
KWLK Radio (Mutual) Longview, WA 1941-44
KFI Radio (NBC) Los Angeles CA 1945-47, 50-53
Widow of Howard Culver, actor
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:49:51 -0400
From: lois@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over four years, same time, same channel!
Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
"Archie Andrews;" owners of some of the best OTR sites on the Web;
maintainer of the best-known OTR Digest (we all know who he is)..........
and Me
Lois Culver
KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
and widow of actor Howard Culver
(For more info, contact lois@[removed])
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:50:13 -0400
From: Jshnay1@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Grand Canyon Suite
To set the record straight:
"Johnny's theme" was taken from the second movement of the "Grand Canyon
Suite" written by Ferde Grofe. It is called 'On The Trail" and depicts the
mule journey along a trail in the Grand Canyon.
Grofe wrote a number of similar works, including Mississippi Suite, a
movement of which was transformed into a pop hit called "Daybreak" (Dorsey
recording, I believe).
The story goes that Grofe helped Gershwin orchestrate (or did the
orchestration) for Gershwin's "Rhapsody In Blue" in 1924. At the time Grofe
was an arranger for the Paul Whiteman orchestra, which premiered the work in
Aeolian Hall In NYC. So that could well be the case.
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:50:20 -0400
From: Allen J Hubin <ajhubin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: age
Age: 65.
Al Hubin
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:50:27 -0400
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: callll for phillip morriiicce
On Tuesday, 28 Aug 2001 Jer51473@[removed] said:
". . . also cant remember the name of phillip morris theme, but it was
classical and reminded me of a camel loping in the [removed] ."
It was from Ferde Grofe's "Grand Canyon Suite."
Bob Scherago
[removed]
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:21:04 -0400
From: khovard@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Words at War
Can anyone tell me how my friend can get a copy of the Feb 8, 1944
-broadcast of the WORDS AT WAR show "GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER".
Howard
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:21:19 -0400
From: khovard@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: United Jewish Appeal
Can anyone tell me how I can get a copy of the Sat. June 21, 1945 WNYC
Broadcast for United Jewish Appeal - which was narrated by Canada [removed]
Howard
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:21:30 -0400
From: khovard@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Destination Freedom
Can someone tell me the date of broadcast and the
station ( WMAQ in Chicago?) which broadcast these two Destination
Freedom shows:
1. ìWe Have Seen Lincolnî about a man named Ben Harper.
2. George Washington Carver. Was it March 16, 1949?
Thanks,
Howard
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:37:30 -0400
From: Wboenig@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Who Told The Joke First?
Dennis Crow writes:
Now I know I have heard this repeated on some zany comedy from the forties,
I
just don't remember which one. Does anyone know who originated this corny
joke?
Without making any claim to "first-ness" (how's that for a word?), I believe
a mutation of this joke is recited by Groucho Marx (to Leo Gorcey) on the
February 26, 1944 episode of "Pabst Blue Ribbon Town". But given the
low-budget nature of that series, it's a pretty sure bet that the line wasn't
original.
Wayne Boenig
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