Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #147
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 4/18/2002 8:03 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 147
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Magnetic tape                         [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Re:Hal Roach Radio Station??          [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
      Cincinatti Convention                 [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Also Seeking OTR Traders              [ Tsunami1000@[removed] ]
      Re: Madam Queen's Entrance            [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      otr radio stations                    [ Michael Browning <aquarii2u@[removed] ]
      Thank you                             [ "Richard Carpenter" <sinatra@raging ]

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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:00:51 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Magnetic tape

>     Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 01:28:46 -0400
>     From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];

>     I know that ABC allowed Bing Crosby to use magnetic tape circa 1947, but I
>     was wondering when the networks stopped using discs for transcribing and
>     switched to tape. Was it over a long period of time or a relatively short
>     one?

    Robert Dwan, who directed "You Bet Your Life" for all of its 14 years, says in his book =As
    Long As They're Laughing= that Bing Crosby was allowed to record in 1946, as an exception
    to the usual rule against recorded programs.  Another exception, he says, was "The Bell
    Telephone Hour of Fine Music, which originated in New York at 8 PM and was recorded for
    later broadcast out west.  John Guedel insisted that if Crosby could record, why not
    Groucho?

    Dwan says that the first season of "You Bet Your Life" was recorded on acetate records, and
    the editing was very difficult.  The following year, Crosby learned of magnetic tape and
    immediately proposed that ABC buy some tape equipment.  Bing's clout being what it was,
    ABC investigated Ampex, but felt they needed some guarantee of continued production,
    since Ampex was a tiny company.  So Bing sent Ampex an unsolicited check for $50,000 to
    Ampex.  Dwan says that three editing machines were purchased, two for Bing's show and
    one for Groucho's.  That would be the 1948-49 season.

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    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:00:56 -0400
    From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:Hal Roach Radio Station??

    I have done a fair amount of research into Los Angeles' radio past ,
    having lived in Southern California nearly all of my life (since 1958).
    To my knowledge Hal Roach never ran a "station" as such, but that does
    not preclude any radio recording studio on site or possible recording
    sessions that might have been done there. He was active in that OTHER
    medium--the Life Of Riley and Amos 'n' Andy TV versions were both filmed
    there. and it was Mr. Roach who repackaged the Little Rascals/Our Gang
    shorts and Laurel and Hardy films for TV [removed] and Hardy cut
    a radio audition disc for NBC but I don't know if it was done at Mr.
    Roach's studios.

    Warner Brothers ran station KFWB from the late twenties to the late
    forties. Perhaps your friend has confused them with Hal Roach?

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:00 -0400
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cincinatti Convention

    In reading the various posts about the Cincinatti convention over the
    past few weeks it sounds like there is going to be alot of drinking
    going on. How about wild women? Haven't heard anything about them? Or is
    that hush hush? How about the party hats and the practical jokes that go
    along with the drunks?

    Gosh I wish I were going!

    George Aust

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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:04 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      Actually yesterday in radio history, still having connecting
    [removed]

      From Those Were The Days, 17 April

    1933 - Backed by the On the Trail portion of the magnificent Grand
    Canyon Suite, Johnny Rovetini, pillbox hat and all, uttered the words
    "Call for Philip Morris" for the first time on radio. The famous phrase
    was said in perfect B flat pitch and tone to perfectly match the
    accompanying music. This "Call for Philip Morris" phrase became one of
    the most famous in all of advertising. Here are a few other classics
    from advertising’s golden age to jog your brain’s memory cells: "See the
    [removed] in your Chevrolet," "Pepsi Cola hits the spot, 12 full ounces and
    that’s a lot," "When better cars are built, Buick will build them,"
    "Aren’t you glad you use Dial? Don’t you wish everybody did?"

    1935 - People gathered around the radio to listen for the first time to
    what would become the ultimate horror show on NBC. Lights Out remained
    on the until 1952.

      Joe

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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:08 -0400
    From: Tsunami1000@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Also Seeking OTR Traders
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    Hello everyone!  Like the other person a few days ago, I, too, am seeking
    some OTR traders.  I prefer a little bit of everything, and my preferred
    medium is standard cd audio.  I have the means to burn cds, including MP3's
    (although I have only a few of them and use it mainly as a kind of holding
    medium until I have the equipment to make my own standard cds from them).  I
    also am able to make cassette copies from Cds, and to those potential traders
    who can deal only in cassettes, I want to hear from you as well and see what
    you have in your collection.  Anyone interested, I will be happy to send a
    pasted listing of what I now hold.  Thanks to all! JIM F

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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:13 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Madam Queen's Entrance

    On 4/18/02 12:29 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     Kingfish says "There she comes.  The
>     people are turning around" and then begins 30 seconds (an eternity in radio)
>     of laughter and hilarity that leaves me dumbfounded as to what the studio
>     audience must have been looking at.  It is certain they did not see anything
>     they were expecting in spite of all they had just heard

    I've often wondered about this as well. Lillian Randolph, who played the
    Madam in the sitcom era, was not a petite woman, as can be seen from her
    movie appearances, but neither was she obese. My best guess is that on
    cue, she came marching out in a very determined manner, dressed in a
    flamboyant outfit -- and fixed Charles Correll in an intimidtating glare.
    (Imagine Aunt Esther giving Fred G. Sanford one of her "fish-eyed fool"
    looks.)

    What might have made this scene even more unusual for the studio audience
    is the fact that the radio A&A didn't go in for audience sight gags: the
    performers never appeared in costume, and with the exception of the
    occasional bald jokes directed at Gosden (he usually wore a hat in front
    of the live audience, and would lift it in embarrassment whenever the
    Kingfish's mother-in-law made disparaging references to "Baldy,") there
    was little visual hamming-it-up for the audience's benefit. So while the
    audience may have been primed for the appearance of Lillian Randolph --
    they certainly weren't expecting to see Madam Queen herself come storming
    out onto the stage in all her glory.

    Personally, I've always had mixed feelings about this scene: the Madam
    Queen of the serial era was an extremely well-developed character for
    more than a decade, even though she only had speaking roles in three
    episodes, and Correll and Gosden were always careful to present her
    sympathetically -- see, for example, the heartbreaking letter the Madam
    wrote to Andy in the episode of 5/7/34, quoted at
    [removed]~[removed]. Despite the exaggerated 1950
    characterization, it had been made clear during the serial years that the
    Madam was the only woman Andy ever seriously loved -- and she broke it
    off because she finally came to realize that the relationship could never
    work. So while I can understand the value in rousing the studio audience
    up for a big laugh in 1950, I wish it hadn't had to come at the expense
    of a character who had once been so much more.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:31 -0400
    From: Michael Browning <aquarii2u@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  otr radio stations

    I have been a member receiving old time radio digest
    for a little over six months and have never seen the
    following mentioned, (LIVE365). This is a web sight
    that can be reached on the internet and has they say
    over 40,000 + stations of streaming radio. The people
    that read this digest are all listeners of otr and
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    Live 365 but it doesn't cost anything to join and once
    you are a member you can have your own set of presets.
    So all you have to do then is put your username and
    password you choose in and you have it made for a long
    time. I know that there are some of you that know
    about this sight and then there are some that don't.
    This is said for you so you can enjoy otr and a lot of
    it. You always here of some of the sights that are
    talked about but I have never heard of this being
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    Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:01:39 -0400
    From: "Richard  Carpenter" <sinatra@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Thank you

       Thanks so much to all who, on or off list, have expressed condolences on
    the loss of my father. The response only reinforces my opinion that when it
    comes to nice people, old-time-radio fans head the list.
                                                             Richard Carpenter

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