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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 175
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
About preserving cds [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
5-23 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
MP3 player for walking [ Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed]; ]
John Brown 1904-1957 [ "Phil Watson" <possum@[removed] ]
Gildy and Eve and Leila [removed] [ LBohall@[removed] ]
[removed] something else I have [ "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed]; ]
Jackie Gleason [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
[removed] Johnson [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Frank Fontaine Shows [ "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@ezlin ]
ILAM [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
5-25 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Gildersleeve at Detroit Historical M [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:03:44 -0400
From: Jer51473@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: About preserving cds
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I just purchased some otr mp3s from a vendor and was strongly advised to put
labels on them to protect the cds. The vendor, of course, sells labels, but
firmly expressed their protective function. Most of my otr cds do not have
labels because i have not spent the extra money for such. Instead, i have just
labeled them myself using a marking pencil. They are not attractive, but i can
identify each. Question: how important is a label? I thought the underside of
the
cd was what was important to protect, not the topside. Anyone, please advise.
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:03:54 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-23 births/deaths
May 23rd births
05-23-1882 - James Gleason - NYC - d. 4-12-1959
actor: "Jimmy Gleason's Diner"
05-23-1883 - Douglas Fairbanks - Denver, CO - d. 12-12-1939
commentator: "KHJ Los Angeles 1921"
05-23-1890 - Herbert Marshall - London, England - d. 1-22-1966
actor: Ken Thurston "Man Called X"
05-23-1898 - Frank McHugh - Homestead, PA - d. 9-11-1981
actor: Fairchild Finnegan "Phone Again Finnegan"
05-23-1910 - Benjamin "Scatman" Crothers - Terre Haute, IN - d. 11-26-1986
jazz musician: early radio into the 40s
05-23-1912 - John Payne - Roanoke, VA - d. 12-6-1989
actor: "Hollywood Star Preview"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-23-1912 - Marius Goring - Newport, Isle of Wight, England - d. 9-30-1998
actor: Sir Percy Blakeney/Scarlet Pimpernel "Scarlet Pimpernel"
05-23-1919 - Betty Garrett - St. Joseph, MO
singer-actress: "Savings Bond Show"; "Guest Star"; "Showtime"
05-23-1921 - Helen O'Connell - Lima, OH - d. 9-9-1993
singer: (Jimmy Dorsey Band) "Kraft Music Hall"; "Fitch Bandwagon"
05-23-1928 - Rosemary Clooney - Maysville, KY - d. 6-29-2002
singer: "Rosemary Clooney Show"; "On the Sunny Side"
May 23rd deaths
03-15-1915 - David Schoenbrun - d. 5-23-1988
news correspondent: CBS News, Paris; "CBS Radio Workshop"
03-26-1916 - Sterling Hayden - Montclair, NJ - d. 5-23-1986
actor: "We the People"
08-04-1915 - William Keene - PA - d. 5-23-1992
actor: Red Lantern "Land of the Lost"
09-12-1914 - Eddy Howard - Woodland, CA - d. 5-23-1963
bandleader, singer: "Carton of Cheer"; "Gay Mrs. Featherstone"
09-24-1886 - James Burke - NYC - d. 5-23-1968
actor: producer: "Rose of My Dreams"
10-28-1886 - Ruth Gates - Denton, TX - d. 5-23-1966
actress: Mrs Lenord "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
11-04-1912 - Humphrey Davis - Meriden, CT - d. 5-23-1987
actor: Al Douglas "Life Can Be Beautiful"; Sheriff Jackson "Tennessee Jed"
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Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:04:17 -0400
From: Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 player for walking
Does anyone know of an MP3 player that will play the
slow bitrate OTRs and has an antiskip function that
one could use for walking. I have a Rio but its not
good for that.
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:04:49 -0400
From: "Phil Watson" <possum@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: John Brown 1904-1957
Reading Ron Sayles' excellent hatched & despatched lists of radio
performers, I was surprised to read that one John Brown was born in the same
place and on the same day as my late dad, April 4th 1904, in Hull,
Yorkshire, England. I've meant to ask before if anyone can tell me anything
about him, other than the bald show credits Mr. Sayles lists. Poor John
Brown died at an early age whereas my dad lived to be 91, and I bet he'd
have been surprised to have known what had happened to one of his fellow
birthday babies.
Regards to all
Phil
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:05:02 -0400
From: LBohall@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gildy and Eve and Leila [removed]
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Hello all! I was listening to 2 episodes of The Great Gildersleeve from May
of 1944. In them, Gildy had kissed Leila Ransom, his fiance of the year
before,
and then told Eve Goodwin, his current fiance about it. I only have those 2
[removed] happened? Why didn't Gildy and Lela get married the year
before?
And did Gildy marry [removed] Leila or anyone?
Thanks!
Larry
My new novel, Martyr's Cry: a mystery for hopeless romantics, is available
now! Go to [removed] for more [removed]
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:05:38 -0400
From: "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: [removed] something else I have been
wondering [removed]
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AMC, several years ago when it was still CLASSIC, broadcast the 1943 Batman
serial as a marathon, on Halloween I believe. I know the racial slurs were
not excised from their broadcast and I don't recall that they broadcast any
disclaimer. Does anyone know if AMC otherwise edited the serial?? The
Goodtimes version mentioned is quite laughable with its poor redubbing. So
bad, as a matter of fact, that as soon as I had recorded the serial off from
AMC, I gave the dubbed version away.
On an entirely different level, I was wondering how many complete evenings of
entertainment from OTR's history are out there. For example, if I were to
search thru the various vendors, how many evenings, from a given date, would
it be possible for me to reconstruct. I don't mean just one network, but
various networks. Meaning, if I could reconstruct May 22, 1946, at 7:00, I
would listen to a program from NBC Blue; at 7:30, one from CBS; at 8,
something from Mutual. Maybe even some overlapping programs broadcast at the
same time on that date. Hope that is clear and makes sense. Just curious as
to how many combinations of any given dates programs are available.
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:15:25 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jackie Gleason
What was worse was that by having one of the previously unseen neighborhood
characters suddenly appear it adversely affected the original conception of
this segment. It had been a monologue where Joe would tell his unseen
customer, Mr. Donohey, what had been happening this week in their Brooklyn
neighborhood and what the whole gaggle of unseen characters had been up to.
I was terribly disappointed when Jackie Gleason changed his style and his
show, and my father simply stopped watching it. The monologues and the
pantomime were replaced by, well, sitcom. I guess someone, quite possibly
Gleason himself, became convinced that his show was too simple. The Poor
Soul, Joe the Bartender, and the fellow in the diner (what _was_ his
name?--he did a percussion routine with the salt and pepper shakers on the
diner counter) were just Jackie Gleason himself. And as marvelous as that
ensemble was, The Honeymooners were mostly Ralph.
When we were lucky, the plot would have Ralph left alone in that kitchen
after a spat with Alice. For perhaps a minute, we would see his resentment
turn to remorse, all in perfectly detailed pantomime. If anyone's done
television that well since, I missed it. And it was all Gleason, by
himself. When his acts were 'filled out' with real actors the effect was
lost: monologue became dialogue, and the humor that comes from the gradual
formation of a thought picture was lost.
Radio became television, movies became talkies, and monochrome became color.
As we've noted many times in these pages, the losses equalled the gains in
each transition, but few people seemed to care at the time. I think Jackie
Gleason may have made that same error, and for whatever reason could not
recover. Perhaps he, like so many geniuses, did all he had to offer when he
was still fairly young and then could not duplicate his earlier successes.
He was only 40 in 1956, when he was at the height of his fame.
Characters with purposely limited exposure make for good writing. Perry
Mason's secretary Gertie, Duffy the tavern owner, and Myrt the telephone
operator are my favorites. TV had Richard Diamond's secretary, Rhoda's
doorman Carlton, Allen Brady, and Bob Newhart's innumerable telephone
contacts. I miss them all.
M Kinsler
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:04:23 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: [removed] Johnson
Maybe stretching a point here with the Olde Tyme Radio connection, but Samuel
C. Johnson died. His company was the long time sponsor of "Fibber McGee and
Molly."
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Ron Sayles
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:09:59 -0400
From: "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Frank Fontaine Shows
David Phaneuf wrote the following (excerpt) in Digest #173:
Was listening to July 12, 1952, Gunsmoke episode and
during the commercial break the Frank Fontaine Show
(Sunday Nights on CBS Radio) was advertised.
I've never heard of any Frank Fontaine shows, are any
of these still extant and available for purchase?
Or perhaps on the net anywhere?
Well, Dave, I don't know if there are any shows of his in
circulation but here is what I have. Back in the '90's when I
was working in Wisconsin, I went into a large Goodwill Center
in Menasha looking mainly for recordings, etc. Here's what I
found. I saw this album cover which said Five Exciting New
Radio Shows (selling for .39 cents by the way). On opening
the fold out cover the following copy appeared.
Give your product a seasonable lift with one of these all-season
CBS Radio [removed]
HORATIO HORNBLOWER - starring the distinguished Michael Redgrave as
hero of [removed] forester's best-sellers. Salt spray adventures and sparkling
[removed] an audience already assembled by the dashing Hornblower
of magazine, book, and screen. (Mondays, 8:00-8:30 [removed] EDT)
DECEMBER BRIDE - Spring Byington is "her usual delightful self" (says
Variety) as a new kind of mother-in-law (her son-in-law dotes on her).
Warm situation comedy with a new view of an old relationship - delight
for every in-law in the land. (Sundays, 7:00-7:30 [removed] EDT)
THE FRANK FONTAINE SHOW - A half-hour of rippling comedy with
Frank Fontaine and his zany impersonations of Fred Frump and John [removed]
[removed] baby sitting dilemmas of the Fontaine family (latest
count
a hilarious eight). (Sundays, 8:00-8:30 [removed] EDT)
GUNSMOKE - There's a [removed] Marshal, assorted villains, the setting is the
west - but there's a priceless missing-ingredient: It's a western without
corn.
Adult writing, believable [removed] effect - to win a new audience for
the
sagas of the prairies. (Saturdays, 7:30-8:00 [removed] EDT)
THE STEVE ALLEN SHOW - A program with a human format--first name,
Steve. It's a changing and always surprising blend of artesian
[removed]
Allen [removed] Bobby Sherwood [removed] bright banter with unexpected
guest. A smash hit on the Coast, this show has top national prospects. It's
all [removed]'s [removed] half-hour of fun.
(Monday through Friday, 9:30-10:00 [removed] EDT)
Refresh your customers and your sales with one of these big-opportunity
shows - all on THE CBS RADIO NETWORK
So I'm assuming this recording was sent out to potential sponsors or radio
stations as all the above shows premiered in 1952. There are three shows
on each side of the 33 1/3 album and though the album label says they are
exerpts from Five Exciting New Radio Shows they all seem to be complete
shows. The album is in excellent condition and feel I got a real steal for
39 cents.
So, Dave you were apparently listening to a very early Gunsmoke show
since they were also mentioning the Frank Fontaine Show. Who know's this
may be the only one in circulation. Dave, contact me personally for more
info on this.
Don Dean - N8IOJ
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:41:11 -0400
From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: ILAM
Scott Eberbach announced a couple of days ago that Radio Memories had found
seven of the nine missing I Love A Mystery "Temple of Vampires" programs.
Jim Harmon posted the same information in the next OTR log. I called Radio
Memories to confirm this information. Hold the phone! They are still
vetting the programs they have acquired. There is apparently a question as
to whether these are the real shows or someone's recreation, or possibly
repeats of other chapters in the serial. They told me they will announce
shortly if the information is reliable. All ILAM fans are holding their
collective breaths.
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:46:18 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-25 births/deaths
May 24th births
05-24-1878 - Harry Emerson Fosdick - Buffalo, NY - d. 10-5-1969
preacher: "National Vespers"
05-24-1883 - Elsa Maxwell - Keokuk, IA - d. 11-1-1963
society mistress: Roma Wine spokesperson for Suspense; "Texaco Star Theatre"
05-24-1902 - Wilbur Hatch - Mokena, IL - d. 12-22-1969
conductor: "Our Miss Brooks"; "Gateway to Hollywood"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
05-24-1907 - Bill Bouchey - Michigan - d. 8-26-1977
actor: Red Albright/Captain Midnight "Captain Midnight"
05-24-1909 - Howard Snyder - d. 4-13-1963
writer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Lum and Abner"; "That's My Pop"
05-24-1912 - Rachel Carley - Brussels, Belgium
singer: (Radio's French Girl) "Manhattan Merry-Go-Round"
05-24-1914 - Lilli Palmer - Posen, Germany - d. 1-27-1986
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-24-1916 - Tony Barrett - NYC - d. 11-16-1974
actor: Charlie Dyer "This Life is Mine"; Biff Bradley "Pepper Young's Family"
05-24-1924 - Theodore Bikel - Vienna, Austria
actor: "Eternal Light"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
05-24-1932 - Elaine Malbin - NYC
singer: "Serenade to America"; "Saturday Matinee with Elaine Malbin"
May 24th deaths
03-06-1882 - Guy Kibbee - El Paso, TX - d. 5-24-1956
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-08-1893 - Sam Jaffe - NYC - d. 5-24-1984
actor: "Fannie Hurst Presents"; "New World A-Coming"; "Cavalcade of America"
04-03-1898 - George Jessel - NYC - d. 5-24-1981
comedian, emcee: (Toastmaster General of the [removed]) "Hollywood Calling"
04-29-1899 - Duke Ellington - Washington, [removed] - d. 5-24-1974
bandleader: "Jubilee"; "Orson Welles Theatre"; "Story of Swing"
06-04-1901 - Carlton E. Morse - Jennings, LA - d. 5-24-1993
writer, producer, director: "One Man's Family"; "I Love A Mystery"
10-22-1920 - Mitzi Green - The Bronx, NY - d. 5-24-1969
actress: Girl "Passport to Romance"
12-25-1913 - Candy Candido - New Orleans, LA - d. 5-24-1999
comedian: "Sealtest Village Store"; "Jimmy Durante Show"
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Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:16:44 -0400
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gildersleeve at Detroit Historical Museum
Well, sort [removed]
Back in 1973, Detroit-based advertising company [removed]
Doner produced a commercial for Detroit-based Faygo
pop which featured Hal Peary leading a group of people
on the Bob-Lo boat in a song associating nostalgia
with Faygo ("...remember when you were a kid? Well
part of you still is. And that's why we make Faygo.")
The commercial opens with Peary doing the Gildersleeve
laugh and saying "is everybody ready?" before the
singing begins.
This commercial, and several other classic commercials
made in Detroit, can be seen in the newly opened
American Icons/Detroit Designs exhibit at the Detroit
Historical Museum. The exhibit focuses on well known
icons that had their beginnings in metro Detroit,
though they may have become more famous elsewhere. The
St. Louis Arch and the comic strip "Cathy" being two
examples.
The other commericals that can be seen with the Faygo
one include: Vlasic Pickles (with the Groucho
Marx-like stork); Tootsie Pops ("how many licks does
it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie
pop?"); the Detroit Zoo ("see how the stars live");
Dow scrubbing bubbles; Speedway 79 gasoline; "What
would you do for a Klondike Bar?"; the Mazda "Zoom
Zoom" commercial; and "See the USA in your Chevrolet."
All but the last were produced by Doner. That was
produced by Campbell-Ewald, also of Detroit.
The lyrics to the Faygo boat song can be found here:
[removed]
The Bob-Lo boat, for those of you unfortunate enough
never to have traveled on it, took people to the
Bob-Lo Island amusement park in the Detroit river. The
island, which was on the Canadian side of the river,
is now, sadly, populated by condominiums. The various
rides from the amusement park were sold to other parks
around the country.
While I don't recall anyone singing the Faygo Boat
Song when I went to Bob-Lo, there were sing-a-longs
and other activities during the journey, which
probably took between 20 and 45 minutes. Who knows,
maybe Hal Peary was on board one time when I was as
well, though I wouldn't have known whom he was at the
time.
Rick
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