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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 222
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Adventures in Odyssey                 [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  RE: Prercorded network Program druin  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  Buff Donnelly?                        [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
  Laurel and Hardy's "This is Your Lif  [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
  Mr. Binyon In Shredni Vashtar         [ Steve Kostelecky <doyasteve@[removed] ]
  Authors & Old Time Radio              [ "Jeff G" <geddes_jeff@[removed]; ]
  Private Eyelashes                     [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  podcasting vs. file sharing?          [ "Charles P. Adams" <charlesadams1@b ]
  This week in radio history 24-30 Jul  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  IEEE Virtual Museum                   [ doug <doug@[removed]; ]
  Remembering Saturday radio            [ Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed]; ]
  Art Linkletter, Gets the Picture      [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
  Needed: 3/23/1944 Suspense episode '  [ "snopes" <snopes@[removed]; ]
  More Husband & Wife Teams             [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Laurel and Hardy Redux                [ "RICHARD RIEVE" <Rieve9@[removed]; ]
  Amos 'n' Andy 'n' Elizabeth McLeod    [ alo <alo@[removed]; ]
  MP3 Cutouts?                          [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:56:01 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Adventures in Odyssey
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Greetings and salutations!

In the ongoing thread about James Dobson,  a one-time "Archie Andrews," and
James Dobson of "Focus on the Family." Mike Ray wrote

Speaking of Irony, This same James Dobson (the religious leader)is the
creator of a new time radio program for the family called Adventures in
Odyesey. Not only that, but Mr. Dobson personaly hired our beloved Parley
Baer to perform in several of the
episodes. Not only did Parley have fond memories of his experance, he was
able to bring other OTR actors into the program to make "guest appearences."
The program is heard is broacast on over 1,000 stations world [removed], the
joy of radio drama.

For fans of latter-day NTR, I'm happy to report that the Odyssey cycle is
about
to begin again. Focus on the Family's "Adventures in Odyssey" airs daily
reruns  dating back to episode #1 circa 1987-88,  and episode #1 is slated to
air
this coming Monday July 25th. Go to the AIO website [removed]
to find  a station near you that airs these programmes. The website also
offers listeners a chance  to listen to a particular day's episode over the
Internet.

For folks unfamiliar with this wonderful show aimed primarily at
pre-adolescents,
it tells the story of a small mid-western town, whose soul is an eccentric
inventor, scholar, and ice-cream parlour owner  named John Avery Whittaker
(voiced originally by Hal Smith, and currently by Seattle-area actor Paul
Herlinger). Each episode is a morality tale designed to help the children
depicted in the stories with their spiritual growth.

Episodes are clearly Christian-themed and sometimes the characters
come off as being quasi-Stepford. But all in all, it's a most enjoyable
series.
In addition to the aforementioned Parley Baer, other OTR & TV types
who have lent their vocal talent to Odyssey include  Alan Young, Janet
Waldo, Dick Beals, Dave Madden, and Walker Edmiston. Also in
the cast are Katie Leigh and Will Ryan in the pivotal roles of
Connie Kendall and eugene Meltsner.

I truly value "Adventures in Odyssey." I do realise that its moralising
is not going to be to everybody's liking. But, it's one of
the few vestiges of dramtised radio that we have these days.

Yours in the ether,

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:10:25 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Prercorded network Program druing summer

Number 8:    Today, Arizona doesn't follow Day-Light saving times. Are the
radio and television network
             programs still on a hour delay in the summer month in Arizona?

Nope; Arizona folks follow the same protocol as Chicagoans (at least during
the summer). Everything is aired an hour earlier than it is on the east and
west coasts. I think the way the OTR programs handled the four time zones
with two broadcasts was to have one broadcast for the Pacific and Mountain
zones and another for the Eastern and Central zones. The Central zone always
did have shows on an hour earlier than in the east and when I lived in
Chicago, Johnny Carson was finished at midnight rather than 1 AM ([removed], when
the show was 1-1/2 hours long). Incidentally, Indiana has the East/Central
time zone line running smack down the middle of the state (or at least it
used to), with a big jog from east to west north of Indianapolis and back
again south of that city. Indiana set up DST so that those parts of the state
east of the line didn't observe DST and those west of the line did. That way,
at least for the summer months, the entire state observed the same time.

 B. Ray

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:10:52 -0400
From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Buff Donnelly?

Hello again --
In regard to:

Let's not forget Mike Wallace and Buff Donnelly of the "Mike and Buff" show.

I thought Buff's maiden name was Cobb -- she was the daughter of humorist
Irwin S. Cobb of Paducah Kentucky (the bridge leading into that town is
named for him).

Jan Bach

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:43:33 -0400
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Laurel and Hardy's "This is Your Life"

"Huckenterprises" noted:

As for the "This Is Your Life" episode, Stan did not want to appear in
anything that he was not prepared for, thus his reluctance to be on the show
and Edwards' ad-libbing for awhile before the boys finally appeared.

That's mostly a myth.  Stan was pretty tight-lipped during the broadcast, and
later griped about the experience of appearing on "an unrehearsed network
program," but he wasn't the reason the show got a late start.  Oliver Hardy's
widow later affirmed that the delay was caused by the amount of time it took
the 350+ lb Ollie to get down to the street, into the cab, out of the cab and
into the studio.  Stan was much too professional to allow his personal
feelings to interfere with the proceedings.

Now, bad dupes are abounding in 16mm. I now have it on audio tape and on VHS.
Quality not as good as Edwards' original print.

Edwards has recently released a DVD box set of 18 vintage "This is Your Life"
episodes, and the Laurel & Hardy episode is included.  Compared to the poor
quality dupes I've seen over the years, the show positively sparkles. The set
also includes the lives of Lou Costello, Milton Berle, Bette Davis, Roy
Rogers and Boris Karloff, among others.  The Costello program is particularly
poignant.

Michael

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:43:45 -0400
From: Steve Kostelecky <doyasteve@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mr. Binyon In Shredni Vashtar

I would like to acknowledge the work of one of our
posters, Mr. Conrad Binyon, with Orson Welles in Lady
Esther's Mercury Theatre program from September of
1941. He did a splendidjob in an adaptation of Saki's
"Shredni Vashtar." I'm afraid I've not taken the time
to thank Mr. Binyon for his fine work and would like
to do so at this late date. I would not like to think
we take for granted the remarkable group of people
sharing their time with us on this list.
Thanks, Mr. B for a job well done.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:44:21 -0400
From: "Jeff G" <geddes_jeff@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Authors & Old Time Radio

Hey All!

[removed] I can hardly believe how long it's been since I've posted on the
list.  But I am proud to say that I am all caught up in my COUNTLESS
mailings and have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the digests.

I can also hardly believe how long it's been since I've traded or bought
radio shows-- I guess once a collector gets to a certain point, they have to
start enjoying what they've collected already before collecting more!  But
now I'm out on the prowl again with a few special requests that I'm hoping
people can help me with.

Right now I am particularly looking for dramatizations of certain authors'
works.  I consulted the [removed] list of famous authors' work that
has been done on Old Time Radio, but I'm wondering if anyone else can come
up with more results.  First of all, I am looking for the NBC Theatre's
rendition of "Candide" by Voltaire, CBS Radio Workshop's rendition of
"Season of Disbelief, and Hail & Farewell" by Bradbury, and Favorite Story's
"Les Miserables" by Hugo.

Also, can anyone tell me if the Columbia Workshop's episode "The Trial" is
based on the Kafka story by the same name?

Apart from those specific ones, can anyone come up with stories by Kafka,
Camus, Guy de Maupassant (other than "The Horla"), and [removed] Sartre that
were ever dramatized for old time radio?  Perhaps we can get a bit of a list
going here on the digest?

And if anyone can help me specifically in obtaining these shows, I'd love to
hear from you off-list.  I could go for cassette or mp3, but would mostly
like to get good quality either way.

Thanks everyone,  and Happy Listening!

Jeff ([removed] "JohnsonsWax")

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:45:13 -0400
From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Private Eyelashes

Those who know me well will be familiar with at least two facts about me: 1)
I have a huge pile (actually an overflowing bookshelf) of books beside my bed
that I haven't read yet; and 2) that I read books in parallel instead of in
series (that is, instead of reading a book all the way through before
starting another one, I'm always in the middle of several books at the same
time).  This will serve to explain why this story about a Christmas present
is being posted in July.

Last Christmas, I received a book from my Sister and Brother-in-Law: Private
Eyelashes, by Jack French.  I was very surprised to see it, because though I
wanted the book very much, I had been planning on buying it myself and hadn't
told my family that I wanted it.  I'm not sure about the details on how this
worked out, but it seems that my Sister and Brother-in-Law are part of a wine
group that also includes a lady who knows Mr. French's daughter.  Or
something to that effect.  Any way, my relatives heard about the book and -
knowing my love of OTR - got me a copy.  Inscribed to me and signed by the
author even.

Well, I've finally made it that far down the infamous pile and have just
finished the book, which I enjoyed very much.  Like many people, the only
female detective show I could name was Candy Matson.  I was surprised to find
out how many there were.  I found the book to be informative and fun to read.
The photos and script excerpts really added to the book.  I recommend this
book to anyone who hasn't picked it up yet.

There's only one thing that I would have added to this book.  Many of the
shows listed only have a couple of episodes circulating, which makes them
hard to hunt down and sample.  A DVD or MP3-CD with shows from the book on it
would make a great companion.  Maybe that could be the theme for one of the
disks Charlie is planning on releasing.  (...hint, [removed])

-chris holm

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:10:50 -0400
From: "Charles P. Adams" <charlesadams1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  podcasting vs. file sharing?

Since podcasting and started becoming the new rage I was wondering why it
was not receiving the attacks from the commercial OTR vendors the way file
sharing did in the 90s?

I would think you are still sending copies of these shows all over the place
just like with any other file sharing software?

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:12:56 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history 24-30 July

 From Those Were The Days --

7/25

1933 - The first broadcast of The Romance of Helen Trent was heard. The
show continued on the air for 7,222 episodes and 27 years. Amazingly,
Helen stayed at 35 years of age throughout the entire series. The show
used two Helen Trents over the years. The first Helen was played by
Virginia Clark (for 11 years) and the second by Julie Stevens (for 16
years).

1933 - During his fourth Fireside Chat, [removed] President Franklin D.
Roosevelt showed why the homey, warm, comfortable discussion was,
indeed, a fireside chat. The President stopped the discussion on the air
and asked for a glass of water, which he then sipped. Newsman Robert
Trout is credited with coming up with the name, Fireside Chat, because
of real moments like this.

1943 - Foreign Assignment, was first heard on Mutual. The title role of
Brian Berry was played by Jan Jostyn, who also starred in another
popular radio drama, Mr. District Attorney.

7/30

1937 - The American Federation of Radio Artists (AFRA) was organized. It
was part of the American Federation of Labor. The union was for all
radio performers except musicians. The union later became The American
Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA) to include TV folk,
as well.

1942 - Stage Door Canteen was first heard on CBS. The show was broadcast
from New York City and 500 servicemen were entertained each week by
celebrities who freely donated their time for the war effort.

Joe  (slow week in [removed])

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:13:16 -0400
From: doug <doug@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  IEEE Virtual Museum

The IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers) has a great
"virtual museum" on their website. One of the sections has a detailed
history of the evolution of sound recording technology, from wax
cylinders to digital audio. Interesting website.

[removed];lid=1

Doug Leary
Seattle

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:14:17 -0400
From: Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Remembering Saturday radio

I listened to radio a lot while it was still in its
golden age. A weekly block of listening time I
remember especially well was Saturday between 9am and
1pm, Central time, in the last half of the 1940s.

A youngster then, alone in our small apartment during
those hours, I'd lie in my cot and listen to our
Philco console beside me.

My programs were on WBBM (CBS in Chicago), with a
single exception.  Four of them were broadcast all
through that period in the same, or about the same,
time slots: Let's Pretend, Armstrong Theater of Today,
Stars Over Hollywood, and Grand Central Station.
Shows that I listened to that were broadcast in that
time block for some of those years were Give and Take,
The Billie Burke Show, Junior Miss, County Fair, and
the only program that was not on WBBM but on WMAQ
(NBC): Archie Andrews.

So at those times I was transported into the
entertaining worlds of drama, fantasy, comedy, games,
and knowledge testing; all while lying comfortably in
bed.

I remember well Let's Pretend's opening, commercial
jingle, and actors' voices; the dramatic opening
narration of Grand Central Station; the unmistakable
voice of Billie Burke; the closing credits on Junior
Miss when actress Beverly Wills called out her
character's name "Fu-FFY Adams"; contestants literally
trying to punch their way out of a paper bag on County
Fair. And more.  From those many Saturdays so long
ago.

-- Phil C.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:47:01 -0400
From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Art Linkletter, Gets the Picture

Catching up on [removed]

Wasn't the amazing story about Art Linkletter and Walt Disney that, back
in the '50s,  in exchange for something--was it as simple as an
investment?

Linkletter received the CAMERA CONCESSION at Disneyland, for YEARS?

In other words, every time someone bought film at the Magic Kingdom,
Linkletter had a piece of the [removed]

Making him richer, beyond many, many [removed]

Jim Burns

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:02:59 -0400
From: "snopes" <snopes@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Needed: 3/23/1944 Suspense episode 'Sneak
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I'm revamping our site's article on the Sonny Tufts legend, and it would be
most helpful if I had a copy of the 23 March 1944 episode of 'Suspense'
(entitled 'Sneak Preview,' starring Joseph Cotten).  If anyone has an MP3 (or
other computer-playable) version of that episode and would be willing to
e-mail me a copy, please contact me off-list.   (I need it for reference
purposes only; I promise I will delete it immediately afterwards and will not
redistribute it or make it available over the web, in case there are any
copyright concerns.)

 - snopes

Urban Legends Reference Pages --> [removed]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:19:59 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  More Husband & Wife Teams
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To add to the on-going list, might I query: didn't standards DJ Ted Brown, who
passed
on earlier this year, do a show  called "Ted Brown & the Redhead,"on WNEW,
1130 AM
with his then-wife? WABC-AM talk-show host Curtis Sliwa used to do a show with
his
former wife Lisa Sliwa, who now goes by the name Lisa Evers as a TV news
reporter
here on NYC's Channel 5.

There's always Spike Jones and one of his band's girl vocalists Helen Grayco.

1970s radio-wise (comedy inserts, "CBSRMT"), there's always Anne Meara and
Jerry Stiller.
Speaking of "RMT,"  OTR career couples who may or may not have worked together
include:
Alexander Scourby and Lori March, and  Mary Jane Higby and Guy Sorel.

What about the Rinehardts (spelling?), who  have been fixtures on some
Pennsylvania radio
station or another for about 40-50 years? They performed at last year's FOTR.

Taking this on another tangent, there are always married couples who've
appeared in re-creations
at various OTR conventions such as Carolyn and Joel Senter and Rene' and Steve
Thompson.

Best always from the ether,

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:12:23 -0400
From: "RICHARD RIEVE" <Rieve9@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Laurel and Hardy Redux

I have seen recent postings mention the Stan Laurel appearance on "This is
Your Life".  This has been recently released on a 3-DVD Box Set of "This is
Your Life".  Radio related personalities include Lou Costello, Roy Rogers,
Boris Karloff, Vincent Price and Milton Berle.

Best regards to everyone, Rick Rieve

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:13:33 -0400
From: alo <alo@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Amos 'n' Andy 'n' Elizabeth McLeod
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Others have mentioned that Elizabeth McLeod's book about Amos 'n' Andy is
finally ready to ship. It's the culmination of literally decades of
dedicated digging and information gathering, presented by Elizabeth with
her usual blend of scholarship and readability. She sets a high bar for us
all, not just in terms of research but in freely sharing that research in
accessible form, as she's done here for many years now. Readers of this
digest are used to seeing her informative posts on almost any subject under
the sun and I guess I think it's worth pointing out that we shouldn't take
her for granted. Obviously the most straightforward way we can show our
thanks & support for what she's done for OTR is by buying a copy of the
book. She's got a handy link up at her site
([removed]~[removed]) for easy ordering from amazon
(every penny helps; writers are poor :-). Even if you're not especially an
Amos 'n' Andy person, what Elizabeth writes is always worth reading.

And for those of you who have been hoping that Elizabeth will actually
attend a con one of these days, your hopes should be realized this October,
as Elizabeth has plans to attend this year's FOTR (finally). (She's
actually been trying to get down there for a couple of years now but it
just hasn't worked out.)

There is also a good chance, depending on how this book is received, for
another book. As we know here from reading her posts, her specialty might
be Amos 'n' Andy, but she's no one trick pony. She knows more about Myrt
and Marge than anybody I know, for instance.

I know I'm not a disinterested observer here  Elizabeth is a friend irl and
I would like nothing more than to see her have a great success with her
book. I can't think of anyone who deserves it more.

cheers,
Amanda

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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:14:24 -0400
From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  MP3 Cutouts?
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Lately I have received some great MP3 OTR shows with a terrific sound.
[removed] do not play beyond a certain point. That is to say that, if the CD
list, say, 55 shows, my player will not go farther than the first 6. My LORD
PETER WIMSEY CDs, for example, list over 40 shows; yet it will not play after
the first 7 have finished. Is this a bit rate issue? Will they play on my PC
perhaps? If that is the case I can reburn them into a playable format.
Curious and needing help,
Randy Story

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