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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 403
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
ADMINISTRIVIA: Virus "Warnings" [ Charlie Summers <listmaster@lofcom. ]
Queen Mum [ "Donald Skuce" <donskuce@[removed] ]
Godfrey Sponsors & Talents [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
Does any one know where I might copi [ "Merlin" <merlin7@[removed]; ]
Amos And Andy Watch [ "Michael DeLisa" <mike_delisa@hotma ]
Re: War of the worlds-press conferen [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
Re: Godfrey's trombone notes [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
Classical music [ "nbenson" <nbenson@[removed]; ]
Today in radio history [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
kentuckiana radio addicts [ "e ginsburg" <edginsburg@[removed] ]
Bandleader Dies [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
Re: 1939 royal visit to Canada [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
Does this Great Gildersleeve episode [ Dwane Harney <toys413@[removed]; ]
MP3 Player and Yours Truly JD [ Jim Kitchen <jkitchen@[removed]; ]
Hans Conried [ PFornatar@[removed] ]
Re: The Movies and OTR [ Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@yahoo. ]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:38:32 -0400
From: Charlie Summers <listmaster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ADMINISTRIVIA: Virus "Warnings"
Folks;
First off, let me thank all of you for being patient with me while I took
a little vacation last [removed] OTR Digest and some postings were a little
late, as were responses to most of your private notes. I should be caught up
by the end of the day today (well, as "caught up" as I ever am, anyway). I'll
be getting some pics of the Katester frolicing on the beach up on the
personal pages as soon as I get the time.
This note is pretty specifically for those of you out there who aren't
terribly "computer savvy;" I'd appreciate if the rest of you would read it
too, but it's _really_ important for those who don't spend a lot of time
playing around with stuff "underneath the hood" of their computer.
While I was on vacation, the list received two "Virus Warnings," both of
which were stock run-of-the-mill hoaxes. The problem is, this isn't uncommon,
and is becoming almost a routine part of my [removed] something else I need
to handle. I was a little cranky about the two that came in while I was away
(I didn't have access to my form letters, and dealing with them took time
away from the beach and the Kahlua).
The pattern is almost always the [removed] sends a subscriber a vital
virus warning, generally with lots of words in ALL CAPS, about some "evil"
file on their system like [removed] or [removed] that must be DELETED
IMMEDIATELY, with complete INSTRUCTIONS FOR REMOVAL, and being the helpful
sort, the subscriber upon finding the offending file on their system throws
it into the trashcan, and then immediately sends a copy of the warning to
every address in their addressbook, including the OTR Digest.
Folks, [removed] it. Before you become part of the problem by
spreading these silly things around, take a deep breath.
I know, I [removed] things actually prey on the _best_ of us, our
desire to help others. They convince us we have a virus, and then ask us to
make sure anyone else we come into contact with is aware of it. Problem is,
though, that you just can't believe everything you read on the [removed]
just because you _think_ the person warning you knows what they are doing
doesn't mean _they_ didn't fall unknowing victim to a hoax.
Yep, [removed] of these warnings are hoaxes, and honest, a (very) little
research would show them to be such. Websites like the [removed] Department of
Energy Computer Incident Adviaory Capacity's HoaxBuster's website
([removed]), The Urban Legens Website ([removed]), and the
legitimate anti-viral software websites detail most of the bazillion hoaxes
floating around the Internet. And as a test, I placed "[removed]" into the
Google search engine, and found over 200 hits, with the first page _filled_
with pages detailing it to be a hoax. Anyone spending literally 10 seconds at
Google could tell this was bogus _before_ sending the warning out to everyone
they know.
Besides, when is the last time you received factual viral information from
a bulk email message sent to hundreds of the sender's closest friends? I
mean, for _real_ viruses, the information almost always comes from the
websites of the anti-viral software companies (Symantec, McAfee, etc.) or the
mainstream news media sites (CNN, New York Times, etc.).
I am going to add a section sometime this week to the information new
subscribers receive, and I will also be adding a page on the website with
information on these silly hoaxes, in an attempt not only to keep them from
coming to the list, but to keep our subscribers from propigating these
bothersome things. In the meantime, let me make every subscriber here an
offer to you you simply should not refuse:
If you receive an email telling you you are infected by a virus, before
you do ANYTHING ELSE, send it to me. I'll be more than happy to spend a
moment or three researching it (odds are, I already have and have a form
letter for that specific "virus") and will send you pointers to legitimate
information about the specific virus/worm/trojan you allegedly have. This
way, you can avoid embarassing yourself by having hundreds of YOUR friends
delete benign system files.
Heck, if you receive _any_ chain letter (Needles on Theater Seats,
Sunscreen Causes Blindness, Voting Rights Expire Warning, Victoria's
Secret/Cracker Barrel/Applebee's Giveaway, Little Girl Dying of Leukemia,
Craig Shelford Make-A-Wish Request, or my personal favorite, the Kidney
Harvest Warning), send it my way BEFORE you send it to everyone else. Like I
said, I've probably seen it or a derivitive, and can point you to factual
information regarding it.
But whatever you [removed]
DO NOT PASS THESE THINGS ALONG!!!! YOU WILL BE EMBARASSED IF YOU DO!!! YOUR
COMPUTER WILL NO LONGER RECEIVE EMAIL FROM YOUR FRIENDS, BECAUSE THEY WON'T
BE FRIENDS ANY LONGER!!! YOUR HAIR WILL FALL OUT!!! (Just look at me!)
And yes, that's a hoax, too.
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:40:14 -0400
From: "Donald Skuce" <donskuce@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Queen Mum
I was always under the impression that the present Queen
Mother's name was Mary. That's what I was told, at least. The
information could be incorrect
The "Queen Mum's" name was indeed Elizabeth. Queen Mary was the
mother of both Edward the VIII and the current Queen's late father, King
George VI.
She was a glorious lady!
Don Skuce
donskuce@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:41:06 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Godfrey Sponsors & Talents
Russ Butler asked about the shampoo advertised by Arthur Godfrey. If
memory serves, it was White Rain. In my mind this was a product of Toni,
the same folk who made the "home permanent products" that Russ recalls. I
think all of these were part of the Gillette Company, otherwise known
largely as a maker of shaving and related products for men.
On the programs seen on television, some very lovely young gals came in to
help advertise these products by modeling their beautiful hair. There was
a version for very young girls, and another especially for ladies with gray
hair, modeled by equally lovely, but somewhat older ladies.
Mr. Godfrey would note that the day's charming model had beautiful
"prematurely gray hair", and hastened to admonish us to remember, "All
ladies with gray hair are prematurely gray".
This went along with his frequently expressed comment whenever somebody
complained about sweating because of a hot day, or as the result of
physical activity: "Horses sweat. Gentlemen perspire. Ladies glow!"
Russ looks forward to when "Mr. Munsick comes up with in his complete list
of radio and TV sponsors, besides Lipton, Glass Wax, Chesterfield and Toni".
Frankly, I doubt I'll ever be able to make this list complete, because over
the half-century long Godfrey career, there were many, many sponsors. They
ranged from "Godfrey's" cigarette or tea or flour, to various brands of
automobiles to Fiberglass to Listerine to Easy Washer-Dryer sets to Sara
Lee cakes to Williams' Aqua-Velva & Lectric Shave to Glasswax to Easy-Off
oven cleaner. It well behooved the listener to remember which product
should be used for what!
Also very difficult will be a hoped-for but unattainable "complete list" of
people who appeared on (let alone won) the "Arthur Godfrey and his Talent
Scouts" programs. They ran for a decade and spawned an enormous number of
future headliners. Not only because many became famous under names other
than those which they used on "Talent Scouts", but also because there is no
existing pre-broadcast publicity for any of them.
For one reason, they were all highly professional but largely "unknown"
when they appeared, and also because the list of talents was not known days
or even weeks ahead of the actual airing, which was required for advance
publicity. On occasion, the final slate for that evening's competition was
not settled until rehearsals held that very afternoon.
I will certainly appreciate any recollections of readers here, both as to
sponsors, and scouts or talents on "Talent Scouts". Please send to me
directly.
Thanks very much for your interest and help! Lee Munsick
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:40:52 -0400
From: "Merlin" <merlin7@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Does any one know where I might copies of
these
The Passing Parade (anthology, hosted by John Nesbitt)
(Syndicated, 1961)
A 15-minute series of re-edited theatrical shorts which were originally
distributed by MGM beginning in 1938, they were narrated historical dramas
(we would now call it "docu-drama") packaged with introductions and
narration by producer John Nesbitt; sometimes episodes were used as
"fillers"; these filmed shorts derived from the "Passing Parade" radio show
Nesbitt produced from 1937 - 1951 which aired on 3 networks
I`m asking on behalf of John Nesbitt`s grandson
Alison
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:41:10 -0400
From: "Michael DeLisa" <mike_delisa@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Amos And Andy Watch
Today in the NY Daily News appeared an article about the Sopranos actors
being uninvited to the Columbus Day Parade. The organizers of the parade
were adamant that they not march with Mayor Bloomberg.
One citizen was quoted -- "How would the African-Americans like it if Amos
and Andy were invited to march in their parade."
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:41:45 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: War of the worlds-press conference
Jef Olson asked about the availability of a written transcript of the
entire Welles morning-after press conference, mentioning that it had
been filmed. There is about 3 minutes of film of it in the Universal
Newsreel camera-reel collection in the National Archives. All of the
excerpts of the conference that I have seen in documentaries seem to
come from this footage. The camera was started and stopped several
times, with it seemingly obvious that it was started when Welles cued to
make a statement. I don't think the press conference was recorded or
filmed continuously from beginning to end, so there might not be any way
to have a complete transcript of everything that was said. John
Houseman discusses this conference in one of his autobiographies.
By the way, this footage is freely available--you can bring your own VCR
to the National Archives, hook it up, and dub it off.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:42:21 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Godfrey's trombone notes
In the discussion about Godfrey's trombonist, Michael Berger recalled
the soloist on "Seems Like Old Times" was originally Sy Shaffer, and Lee
Munsick added "Sy was succeeded by several outstanding trombonists over
the years, who stuck with that great sliding note opening." If I
remember correctly, the majority of those years were covered by
trombonist Lou McGarity. He and Godfrey were the same age and became
very close. When McGarity died it sent a shock of mortality thru
Godfrey who discussed this quite a bit in a number of very somber shows
he did right after McGarity's death. It was only a few months later
that Godfrey decided to retire from his program, and I believe he again
discussed McGarity's death at his exact age as being one of the factors
in his decision.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:45:39 -0400
From: "nbenson" <nbenson@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Classical music
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Enough, already, with the classical music. Classical I can put on in CD form,
and not have to endure selections I don't like. My collection of OTR,
however, has limits. If NPR is truly interested in being what it claims to
be, then some form of radio drama and comedy ( not just one-liners and Guy
Noir, please) at times when normal human beings are up, about, and home
becomes necessary. As for FM and AM stations, I am surfeited with inane music
and sophomoric talk shows (or sophomoric music and inane talk shows; take your
choice). Somehow I can't believe the few of us are the only ones who would
appreciate a laugh and "high adventure" via radio.
Ivan
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[ADMINISTRIVIA: Ok, folks, let's stop beating the "modern radio bites"
discussion to [removed]'s instead talk about the days when radio was king.
--cfs3]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:45:46 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history
>From Those Were The Days --
1934 - Folks had clean hands for 21 years beginning this day. The Lux
Radio Theater was heard on the NBC Blue network. The show was also known
as Lux Presents Hollywood and nearly every famous Hollywood star over
the next three decades appeared on the program. Lux Radio Theater
adapted novels, Broadway plays and Hollywood films into radio's favorite
dramatic series. The show was such a hit, the sponsors literally cleaned
up in profits. Besides the title sponsor, Lux soap, Rinso Blue bleach
and detergent and Spry shortening were also supportive, especially in
the 1950s. (Ready when you are CB).
1939 - Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI) was organized on this day -- to
compete with ASCAP (American Society of Composers and Publishers). The
two music licensing organizations' goal is to ensure that composers,
artists and publishers are properly paid for the use of their works.
(Goodnight Mr Petrillo, where ever you are).
Joe
--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:46:09 -0400
From: "e ginsburg" <edginsburg@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: kentuckiana radio addicts
Sunday October 20, 9:30 am, the October meeting of the Kentuckiana Radio
Addicts will meet at Dillon's Steakhouse on the corner of Taylorsville Road
and Hurstbourne lane in Louisville, kentucky. Bring in any radio memorablia
you wish to [removed], tapes, [removed], or just feel free to bring
yourselves and your memories of OTR.
coffee orange juice and refreshments are served ($5)
please feel free to write or call for details
ed ginsburg
edginsburg@[removed]
or call (502)-451-0071
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:46:36 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bandleader Dies
Voice of America reports the passing of compose and bandleader Ray Conniff at
the age of 85. The obit mentions he played wth Artie Shaw and Bob Crosby
among others, so there is almost certainly an OTR connection here (although
it goes unrreported).
Sean Dougherty
Kubelski@[removed]
[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:46:48 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: 1939 royal visit to Canada
Kenneth Clarke asked if any of the wartime broadcasts of Princess
Elizabeth were available, and Ed Ellers said that "snippets have been
released on some BBC compilations." This is true, and there also have
been a number of LPs that have been issued over the years on the British
label His Master's Voice that include excerpts. But most surprisingly,
in the 1940s HMV had issued two of her early broadcasts on 78 RPM
records. The first was RBS9111 "Message to the Children" broadcast on
Oct 13, 1940. This is her famous talk that ends with her introducing
her younger sister, Margaret Rose. The other record was RB9560
"Broadcasting from Cape Town (on the occasion of her Twenty-First
Birthday, 21st April, 1947)" These two speeches (or at least excerpts)
are included on one of the albums released to commemorate her coronation
"Through Childhood to the Throne" on 78 album 481 (DB9794 thru 6) and LP
ALP1043. This includes many other events of those years, and also her
"Guildhall Speech on returning from Canada." Her Christmas Day
addresses were also released on 78s starting in 1952. There have been
many other albums since then.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:47:47 -0400
From: Dwane Harney <toys413@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Does this Great Gildersleeve episode exist?
A friend asked me if I have the following Great
Gildersleeve episode:
450128 154 "Finding The Right Suit"
At first I couldn't find anywhere that mentioned it,
so I did a search at Google. I found one website that
claims to have it:
[removed]
Here's a direct link to "The Great Gildersleeves"
page:
[removed]
[removed] shows this episode as missing. Does anyone
know anything about this show? Is it mislabeled, or a
lost episode?
Thanks,
Dwane
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:49:20 -0400
From: Jim Kitchen <jkitchen@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: MP3 Player and Yours Truly JD
I recently acquired a factory refurbished Riovolt SP90 MP3/WAV/disc
player over ebay, and am very pleased with this player! It handles all
the MP3 that I ask of it, including 32 kbps/22khz which is the lowest
bit rate MP3 I have. Besides displaying track and time indicators,
track titles scroll across the screen. Very helpful in knowing the
program you are listening to, and keeping track of those already
listened to. I particularly enjoy the Resume feature which lets you
stop anywhere on the disc, even mid-track, and resume where you left
off.
I celebrated and tested my acquisition with a Yours Truly Johnny Dollar
marathon by listening to a MP3 disc with 45 YTJD episodes. Recorded at
64 [removed], this disc begins with the Latro Dectus Matter broadcast
4/16/61, and ends with The Deadly Crystal Matter broadcast 9/23/62 with
a few missing episodes in between. According to Dunning, Bob Readick's
turn as Johnny Dollar ended on 6/18/61 when Mandell Krammer took over
the part for the rest of the run. The last episode on 9/30/62 is not on
this disc. Question: What matter did Johnny Dollar solve in his final
episode?
Jim Kitchen
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:49:27 -0400
From: PFornatar@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hans Conried
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One of my favorite actors in the forties was Hans Conried. For many years
now, I've searched for a program he did on some drama show. It may have been
Suspense but I can't find this show in their log.
The play was called "The Window". It has always been a wonderful
memory. Is there anyone out there who knows if it's available nad/or what
show was it?
Many thanks,
Paul Fornatar
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:49:48 -0400
From: Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: The Movies and OTR
Elizabeth writes:
Warner Brothers also had a stake in radio. Its ownership of
station KFWB in Hollywood is well known,
Really? I had always understood that KFWB and KEWB (San Francisco)
and KDWB (Denver? Milwaukee? Anytown?), among others, were
Westinghouse stations? Were they ALL Warner [removed]
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