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Date: 10/16/2004 1:35 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 333
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Barry Hill                        [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  Osgood Conkling                       [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Re: Barry Hill                        [ Bruce Rosenberger <bmr3d@[removed]; ]
  Well Calculated Tales                 [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Re: A Casting Dilemma                 [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  Black OTR stars                       [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  Shepherd/Shepard                      [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
  RE: "I regret not ever taking the ti  [ vigor16@[removed] ]
  Re: Barry Hill                        [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
  HALOWEEN READING AND LISTENING        [ David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed] ]
  Kim Komando                           [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]
  50Kw Radio Stations                   [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]
  OTR reference used in current Star T  [ "Ryan Hall" <uncle_festor@[removed] ]
  Jessica Dragonette                    [ <whhsa@[removed]; ]
  Robert Lissauer RIP                   [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]
  This week in radio history Oct 17-23  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:01 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Barry Hill

I've been asked to post this by our friend in Germany:

Although I did not know Barry personally I was in constant contact with
him through his Scottish friend Graeme. Thus  we were able to exchange
sound documents he was interested in. I also could contribute some articles
on German Radio Archives and German radio history for his ORCA magazine.
His death came too unexpected for me and I wish to utter my deepest condolences
to the ones he left behind.

I do hope that his work will be continued in his memory.

Bernard Wichert, Roetgen/Germany"

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:25 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Osgood Conkling
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It's I again.

I have a tough query I'd like to posit for all you "Our Miss Brooks" fans and
scholars out in the ether.

>From my experiences, high school principals are, in reality, rank-and-file
teachers who have risen through the ranks
and have "made it."  Was there ever any indication that this was the case with
Connie Brooks's boss, Osgood
Conkling? If so, what subject(s) did "Oz" teach prior to his stint as a school
administrator?

In true sitcom stock-situation tradition, might there have been a flashback to
Priincipal Conkling's teaching days,
or, perhaps, a scenario in which he had to fill in for an ailing Miss Brooks
or Mr. Boynton?

He;p!

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:44 -0400
From: Bruce Rosenberger <bmr3d@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Barry Hill

I didn't know Barry all that well but I always looked forward to seeing
him at the FOTR convention. Besides the neat selection of shows, he
would always treat me (and everyone as far as I can tell) like old
friends. He will be missed.

Bruce
[removed]
[removed]
[removed]

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:58:56 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Well Calculated Tales

From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];

"All Hallow's Eve." ... (was a) SUSPENSE television episode<

I've seen it, & would highly recommend it. It's a pip - especially
considering that it was done live (on 10/28/52.

(It was)NEVER dramatized on radio's SUSPENSE<

That's a surprise, considering what a well-repected thriller chestnut [removed]
Stevenson's "Markheim" - the base story -  is.

But radio's 5/11/43's "Mr. Markham, Antique Dealer" is surely a riff on same,
yes?

Best,
Craig

(Geez - no Ed Carr at FOTR, either?!?)

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:59:16 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: A Casting Dilemma

Sheese! Now I recall why I retired from Directing when I was still young and
pretty. Everybody want's to get into the act. :)

Speaking of which, today I was listening to Jimmy Durante's guest appearance
on Duffy's with Ann
Sothern.   Man oh man, was that ever a crack-up! Durante was hilarious and it
sounds like the
whole cast was just having a ball!

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:59:25 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Black OTR stars

Having only recently discovered Eddie Green, I'm wondering whether there were
any other black OTR
sitcom regulars besides Eddie Green and Rochester?

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:00:10 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Shepherd/Shepard

07-21-1921 - Jean Shepherd - Chicago, IN - d. 10-16-1999
author: "Carl Smith Show"; "Country Music Time"; "Country [removed]

Er, I think you're confusing radio storyteller Jean Shepherd with the Grand
Ole Opry's Jean Shepard who is still very much alive thankyouverymuch.

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:36:26 -0400
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RE: "I regret not ever taking the [removed]"

Hi folks,

I was moved by comments made by Dave Phaneuf in this listin
[removed] Digest V2004 #332,

Now more than ever,I regret not ever taking the time
to make that phone call to say, "Hey, Barry, this is
Dave [removed] your new [removed] how about lunch
this week?"

With all the busy activity we get into, it seems like the only thing that
matters is to say and do the things we mean to as much as we can.
Fighting about politics and stuff is fine but thanking those guys who
gave us the times of our lives should be somewhere high on our priority
list. I never got to meet any OTR personalities personally since I cannot
afford trips to conventions but one of the most memorable weeks in my
life was a couple years ago when I got a real nice e-mail from both Bob
"Archie" Hastings and Hal "Jughead Stone.  It was in the same week and
completely out of the blue.  I for one thank every one who I have heard
on tape CD or otherwise read e-mails from.  I don't want to say it when
it's too late.  Dave has a point.  I want to treat all my friends and
family just this way.  I played a FM&M show one day to a 30-year-old
friend who said, that she liked relaxing and spending time sharing the
program.  She had never heard OTR before.  It gave us time to talk
between commercial breaks and life was a little less hectic.  She
actually left our home with a spring in her step and a smile.  Doc Gamble
couldn't prescribe a better cure for sadness.  So, let's share what we
have and pass it along.  I don't want to be remembered as a kind person.
I want to be one.  I don't want to remember an OTR actor as an Old Timer,
I want to be friends with one.  I thank you guys for the hard work, sweat
and tears of your craft and talent.  It is a major part of my life.
Without you, my life would be a lot less cheerful, suspenceful dramatic
and pleasant.  Thanks much.

Deric

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:37:24 -0400
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Barry Hill

It seems everyone has a Barry Hill story.  It's not surprising; he was
certainly the most jovial guy I'd ever seen behind a dealer's table.

I met Barry at the REPS convention in June 2001.  My book had literally come
out just three days before and rush-shipped directly to Seattle.  The two
cartons were waiting at my table, which was "catty-corner" from Barry's.  I'd
never worked a table, or participated in an OTR convention before; I was
pretty nervous.  As I was hastily trying to set everything up, and signed the
freebies designated for the "Dragnet"-related guests, Barry came over,
chatted me up, joked around, made me feel completely at home - and was the
very first person to buy a copy of "My Name's Friday."  For the remaining
days, whenever it got slow in the dealer's room, we'd visit each other's
tables and talk.  "Dragnet", OTR, conventions, married life - we covered the
gamut.  And he didn't seem to care if he sold anything (he did care, of
course, but he didn't *seem* to).  He loved the hobby, and he loved chatting
with his neighbors.  And he had that dry, sometimes devastating, wit that is
unique to the British.

Whenever I attended future conventions, I'd always stop by and say hello -
and he'd always greet me by name, and with a smile.  I was certainly one of
the smallest fish in this particular pond, and it never ceased to amaze me
how friendly and personable he could be with everybody.

A true gentleman.  A class act.  I'll miss him.

God Bless you, Barry!  Rest ye in peace.

Michael

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:37:56 -0400
From: David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed];
To: "DIGEST, Postings" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  HALOWEEN READING AND LISTENING

   Since the WITCHING SEASON is fast approaching and several subscribers
have commented about radio programs that fit the occasion it occurs to me
that the great granddaddy of all the HORROR programs, Alonzo Dean
Cole's   THE WITCH'S TALE, would be most appropriate listening during ALL
HALLOWS EVE.
     For fans of the otr  horror genre there are still copies of the
WITCH'S TALE book available at a considerable discount from it's cover
price. The book, In addition to providing a complete history of the
program, a biography of it's creator and a complete broadcast log contains
13  complete scripts taken from the personal files of the late Mr. Cole.
     Those interested in getting a discounted copy of the book should
contact: bookhunterpress@[removed]     OR   call;  1-914-245-6608 (or
fax: 1-914-245-2630)

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:38:41 -0400
From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Kim Komando

Kim Komando is a computer guru with excellent daily, online advice postings
and a popular radio show heard throughout the country.  Today's "cool site
of the day" web site recommendation sent to her multi-thousand subscribers
is about "Classic Radio Shows."

She was looking for some information on the radio industry and stumbled on a
web site that was all about old radio shows:  [removed]
Enthralled with what she found, she even stayed later at work to hear the
conclusion of The Shadow that she downloaded.

Kim's audience is, perhaps, more younger folks who are into computers and
high tech, so "a tip of the Halto hat" to her for bringing a free OTR site
to their attention, perhaps introducing the hobby to them for the first
time!

Kim's web site is [removed]

Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:39:12 -0400
From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  50Kw Radio Stations

There's a long list of 50,000 watt AM radio stations in the US.   Not only
the heritage stations with three-letter call signs, many others now have the
higher transmitting power on the expanded band (1610 to 1700Kc).

Here is an up-to-date listing by frequency, city and state, and some
interesting information about how to "catch" their broadcasts for DXing on
your AM receiver some night:  [removed]

Finding stations throughout the world and by cities in the US, use:
[removed] and there is an icon with the station listed (it looks
like the Shazam lightning bolt in the Captain Marvel comics) to hear the
station streaming online.

The early radio publications in the 1920's and 30's (later in White's Radio
Log)
printed this kind of information to help their readers locate far away
signals tuned on their superheterodyne receivers to listen on earphones!
Now it's all digitally available for your listening pleasure (while you
multi-task) on computers!

Everything that is [removed] new again!

Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:21:49 -0400
From: "Ryan Hall" <uncle_festor@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR reference used in current Star Trek episode

I do not think that anyone in the past week has made mention of this, but I
could be mistaken. On last Friday's episode season opener of Star Trek:
Enterprise, there was a reference made to OTR. Basically, and I will
endeavor to sum this up as succinctly as possible, the Enterprise got thrown
back in time to the WWII era because essentially a race from the future had
gone back to WWII earth to get help to build a weapon I guess they could use
to return to the future and take over the universe. (This is a gross
oversimplication, but for our purposes it will suffice). Essentially these
aliens talk the Nazis into helping them in exchange for some minor
futuristic weaponry. In this episode the Nazis are in the White House.
In any [removed] the Enterprise first arrives and enters orbit around
earth, they don't know when exactly they are. Captain Archer orders the
communications officer to scan the radio frequencies. It interesting because
they hear Winston Churchill calling for a British surrender, and then some
1940s band music.
After listening on the headphones for a few seconds, the communications
officer says, "I'm picking up something called The [removed]"
Thought you all might enjoy the OTR reference in contemporary pop
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:22:21 -0400
From: <whhsa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jessica Dragonette

Dear Folks;
Peace.
Until it was mentioned here I had never heard of Jessica Dragonette.  I
located a "dog eared' copy of her book, "Faith is a Song" and read with
great delight of early radio and one of the stars that radio helped to shape
in our universe.  Looking on the internet I cam across a site mantained by a
great nephew, Eric Van der Wyk at:
[removed]
Eric has her book available (6th editon paper back) as well as a CD of
Jessica singing.
My request for information concerning Straight Arrow has netted much info.
Thanks to all.
Look for us in the SPERVAC Convention catalogue and maybe you will win a
Straigth Arrow cave ring.
Manituwah
Bill

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:23:46 -0400
From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Robert Lissauer RIP

We all know - or certainly should know - the importance of music in the
broadcasting and related industries.  The people who keep track of music are
in many ways as important to broadcasters and listeners alike, as the
composers and performers themselves.

I suspect a great many of us, for instance, owe an enormous debt to the
gentleman at WXYZ in Detroit who managed the music library at WXYZ and
provided the music for "The Lone Ranger", ""The Green Hornet", and the
program most of us remember as "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon".  I know I do.
On King!

Just yesterday (Oct. 15) I sent a New York City correspondent the suggestion
that he might purchase a copy of "Lissauer's Encyclopedia of Popular Music in
America 1888 to the Present (1991)".   Today my friend responded with the
following:

=======================================
10/16/04

Unbelievable coincidence, LEE.  You said to me:

Since you live in New York you might look up Robert Lissauer

Here's what the New York Time has to say about that.

ARTS / MUSIC | October 15, 2004
Robert Lissauer, 87, Author of Encyclopedia of Songs, Is Dead
========================================

My wife Charlotte and I got to know Bob Lissauer at meetings of the New York
Sheet Music Society and then the Episcopal Actors Guild.  Although it meets
in the Episcopal "Little Church Around the Corner", often called "The Actors'
Church", EAG is actually a non-sectarian support organization for members of
the theatrical professions who need help.  There are also in New York a
Jewish Actors Guild or Fund, Catholic Actors Guild, etc.  To my knowledge,
they all help show business folk in need regardless of their religion, sex or
ethnic background.  Just their need.

The EAG for years was managed by our good friend Lon Clark.  This late fine
singer and actor had an outstanding career in radio, perhaps best known as
"Nick Carter, Master Detective".  Lon also performed on a number of
commercial recordings, both taken from radio programs and others.  A
wonderful man, Lon succumbed a few years ago after a valiant fight against
cancer.  He and his lovely wife Michelle were dear friends to Charlotte and
me, and I was honored to be one of a number of speakers at his memorial
service.

Bob Lissauer's Encyclopedia was a massive undertaking and remains an
outstanding achievement.  It runs to nearly 1700 pages and is an essential
for fans and collectors of American music.  It is by no means his only
achievement.  Bob studied at Juilliard School, and at the age of 23 became a
music publisher.  For two decades he managed the Vincent Youmans Company, and
was active in the hit revival of Youmans' "No, No Nanette".  He had managed
the music department of "This Is The Army", Irving Berlin's famed WW II
all-soldier show, in which Mr. Berlin harked back to the WW I "Yip Yip
Yaphank".  That led to the film version, which among others starred Ronald
Reagan.

The New York Times obituary said in part, {Author Of Pop Music Encyclopedia
Dies 'Robert Lissauer, a music historian whose vast encyclopedia of American
popular song, considered the definitive reference book in the field, settled
innumerable arguments and started innumerable others, died [removed] The
first edition of Lissauer's Encyclopedia of Popular Music in America listed
more than 19,000 songs, from Aaron Loves Angela to Zsa Zsa.'}

I find it difficult to believe that Bob was 87.  He was tall, spry, lean,
active, very serious and yet personable.  The world of fans and students of
American music, indeed of any music and broadcasting and recordings, has been
enriched by the personality and generous scholarship of Robert Lissauer.

--Lee Munsick

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:04:13 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history Oct 17-23

  From Those Were The Days --

10/17

1919 - The Radio Corporation of America (RCA) was formed.

1938 - This was a big day in Tinseltown. NBC moved to the corner of
Sunset and Vine, the 'Crossroads of the World'. The new Hollywood Radio
City drew thousands of visitors ready to fill studio-audience seats for
popular radio programs.

10/18

1922 - As the British observed the wild growth of radio in the [removed],
they realized the potential of broadcasting in their own country, as
well as the need for its regulation. The British Broadcasting
Corporation (BBC) was established on this day to monitor the development
of the radio biz in Great Britain.

1943 - The first broadcast of Perry Mason was presented on CBS. In the
15-minute (Monday-Friday) shows, Perry was played by Barlett Robinson,
Santos Ortega, Donald Briggs and John Larkin.

10/19

1937 - "The freedom of the press is a flaming sword. Use it justly, hold
it high, guard it well." The radio classic, Big Town, made its debut on
CBS radio. Star reporters at the Illustrated Press, Steve Wilson and
Lorelei Kilbourne, were played by Edward G. Robinson and Claire Trevor.
Tell the Story was the theme song. Sponsors included Ironized Yeast
tablets and Lifebuoy soap.

10/20

1930 - One of the most memorable of all radio shows, The Adventures of
Sherlock Holmes, was first heard on the NBC Red network. Its first
entry, The Speckled Band, featured William Gillette in the role of the
famous detective. Gillette introduced Holmes to New York audiences as
early as 1899.

1932 - Journalist Robert Trout joined CBS.

10/23

1932 - Fred Allen made his radio debut. His wife, Portland Hoffa, joined
  him on the CBS broadcast. Allen's comedy-variety program was known as
The  Linit Bath Club Revue. It then became The Salad Bowl Revue, then,
The Sal  Hapatica Revue, The Hour of Smiles, Town Hall Tonight, The
Texaco Star  Theatre and finally, someone with just a bit of sense, came
up with The  Fred Allen Show. The comedic legend stayed on radio for 17
years.

Joe

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