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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 157
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Sherlock Holmes in New York Times     [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
  Bong                                  [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Re: The Navy Swings and your Navy pr  [ Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@rocketmai ]
  re: Studs Terkel                      [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  Jon Pertwee                           [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  Re: CBS and Westwood One              [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
  Jim Jewell                            [ Joemartelle@[removed] ]
  Jerry by Jiminey                      [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
  SUSPENSE                              [ "ME!" <voxpop@[removed]; ]
  Bob and Ray/Hastings and Stone        [ OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin) ]
  This week in radio history 22-28 May  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  CBS Radio News                        [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
  RE: Galen Drake                       [ "D. Fisher" <dfisher052@[removed] ]
  Tom Mix                               [ Jimmyhwbnd@[removed] ]
  Praying to Tom Mix                    [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  Galen Drake                           [ DanHaefele@[removed] ]
  5-21 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Westwood One/CBS                      [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]
  Re: Sealtest Ice Cream                [ <altamont@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:54:37 -0400
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sherlock Holmes in New York Times
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>From the NYT  5/20/05

...(Sherlock) Holmes has since become a one-man entertainment complex. He
has been the subject of at least 100 movies and nearly as many plays and
radio dramas

I would say it is more like thousands of radio dramas.

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:17:29 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bong

Michael Paraniuk, a fount of information about CBS, asks:

One question. When was the CBS Bong first heard on the network?

I can't go back as far as he can without some serious researching.  But I do
have some recordings of Wendy Warren & the News, at least one of which dates
to 1947, and the bong at high noon is as clear as a bell before the
telegraph keys began popping, introducing the newscast with Doug Edwards and
Wendy (actress Florence Freeman).  Since that feature took the time period
vacated by Kate Smith I have little doubt that the sound was in effect some
time earlier during her program, too.  On scores of tapes of programs that
aired on the hour from the late 1940s and beyond the bong is an expected
fixture.  For instance, I recall hearing it before Hugh Holder's or Len
Sterling's booming voices announced, "The FBI in Peace & War!" followed by
Sergei Prokofiev's March from "Love for Three Oranges."  Now and then I set
the second hand of my watch to those bongs.  I suspect I wasn't the only one
in the country doing that.

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:18:13 -0400
From: Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: The Navy Swings and your Navy presents
 Pat Boone

My mother died last July and I had a lot of stuff in her basement that I'm unloading
now. All my reel to reel OTR shows, comics, baseball cards, Sports Illustrated from the 
1950's and 1960's, Mad Magazines, Rod and Custom Magazines from the 1950's etc etc etc. How did I
accumlate so much crap? (valuable crap?) Anyway I came across a bunch of tapes I found at a junk
store years ago called "The Navy Swings" and "Your Navy Presents Pat Boone." George Fennemen is
the announcer and among the musical guests I noticed is one of my favorites, Ella Mae Morse. Each
show has a different jazz guest. Anyone know anything about this show? The tapes are reel to reel 
and they say government property etc on the reel. Each reel has a sticker on it with the
announcers name and the musical guest. Each box has a color
 sticker with the title, Your Navy Swings,  and a picture of an aircraft carrier at sea with 
some dolphins in the water. The Pat Boone sticker has a pair of white bucks. 
They appear to be the original tapes played by, what, the AFRS? Also in the
Junk Store batch I found a reel to reel  of Dylan Thomas reading his poetry in 1950 at the
University of Washington. Bet my father, who taught there, was in the audience.

		

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:18:33 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Studs Terkel

Irene Heinstein asked about any radio work Studs Terkel had done. I'm
pretty sure he's been doing interviews on the radio (at least in
Chicago) since forever (as my father would put it--he remembers
listening to Studs Terkel about four decades ago when he lived in
Chicago). Just the other day I listened to the Chicago-based program
"Destination Freedom," which was a program celebrating "the American
negro". This was episode 21, 11/21/48, titled "The Rhyme of the Ancient
Dodger", and was about Jackie Robinson. Studs Terkel played the Ancient
Dodger. It was an excellent episode, very well done--I can understand
why this series is highly regarded. If I hadn't known it was out of
Chicago, I would have thought the woman accosted by the Ancient Dodger
at the start of the episode was Minerva Pious. I've got a handful of
episodes from the series, and I'm looking forward to hearing the others
soon.

Kermyt

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:19:24 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jon Pertwee

Ron Sayles wrote:

07-07-1919 - Jon Pertwee - Chelsea, England - d. 5-20-1996
actor: ARP Warden Hodges "Dad's Army"; "Waterlogged Spa"; "Up the Pole"

I don't know about Waterlogged Spa or Up the Pole, but it was Bill
Pertwee, not Jon, who played Warden Hodges on Dad's Army. Bill also
played in Round the Horne, and its earlier incarnation Beyond Our Ken.

Jon (best known to fans of British telly as the third Doctor Who)
played Chief Petty Officer Pertwee for 15 years on the BBC radio
program The Navy Lark. Later in life he also did a couple of BBC Dr Who
radio broadcasts.

I suppose both Bill and Jon have oodles of other radio experiences on
their resumes. The question I have is: were they related? Since they
both appeared in popular BBC shows starting in the 50s, I presume they
were brothers? Is Bill still alive?

Kermyt

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:20:17 -0400
From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: CBS and Westwood One

"Michael Paraniuk" <bourdase@[removed]; writes:

My friends at Westwood One tell me they are working hard to
protect the CBS Radio brand name. I remind them early and often they are the
guardian of America's oldest network and the heir of Paley's radio empire.

I hope your friends at Westwood One guard America's oldest network
(which really isn't)  better than they guarded America's oldest
network.

CBS is incorrectly perceived as America's oldest network ONLY because
the NBC radio network is no longer around.  The NBC radio network,
which was American's oldest network, was abandoned by its caretakers,
none other than Westwood One.

The CBS Bong may be active and well today, but NBC Chimes are nowhere
to be heard on modern radio - in fact, Westwood One failed to renew
the audio trademark registration when it came up in 1990, and the
trademark expired on November 3, 1992.  The separate registration for
television is still active, but so far as radio is concerned the
famous NBC chimes have been public domain for nearly thirteen years.

As for America's oldest network, CBS is a relative latecomer.  NBC
took over the Red network from AT&T in 1926; in fact, the Red network
actually dated to 1924.  NBC converted the old RCA-WJZ network into
the NBC Blue network in January of 1927; however, the RCA network
itself was established in 1925.  CBS only dates from 1927, but the NBC
Blue network, established in 1925, is today the ABC radio network.
Many people think of ABC as only dating from 1945, but in fact the
radio network dates all the way back to the four station hookup two
decades earlier.  It is the oldest continuous American radio network.

Michael Shoshani
Chicago IL

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:20:43 -0400
From: Joemartelle@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jim Jewell
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Hi

I'm doing research for an article on a true pioneer radio broadcaster,  Jim
Jewell
Member and new friend, Jack French has been nice enough to take time to give
me valuable info and [removed], could use your help, too. If you know of a
book,
(excluding WXYZIE WONDERLAND which many have suggested) or a person or
persons who worked with Mr. Jewell, I would greatly appreciate the info.
Many thanks for your kindness and time.

Joe Martelle
Colorado

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:20:57 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jerry by Jiminey

Ron Sayles notes the May 20th birth anniversary of
Jerry Hausner which prompts my input re Jerry.

Click

[removed]

Conrad Binyon

---
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
Encino, CA
Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:21:30 -0400
From: "ME!" <voxpop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  SUSPENSE
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hi
when wm. spier produced suspense joseph kearns was the man in
[removed] elliott lewis took over there was a different man in black;
a voice i didn't recognize but joe kearns still appeared in the cast
[removed] know why the change?
thanx, chet norris

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:22:03 -0400
From: OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bob and Ray/Hastings and Stone

Due to a recent trip, I am only now catching up with OTR Digests of a
week ago. evantorch (issue 148, May 12, 2005) inquired into what Tom
Koch put into Bob and Ray vs. the "spontaneous output" of Elliott and
Goulding. How can such a question of degree and quantity be answered?
Impossible!  Recently, perhaps in the same Digest issue, Hal Stone
referred to doing Bob and Ray with his old radio buddy, Bob Hastings
("Archie Andrews"), at the 2003 SPERDVAC Convention. I have never
enjoyed a better show at SPERDVAC, and I have seen great ones, never
having ever missed a convention.  Not to take anything away from Tom
Koch, who was present and enjoying every second, from the look on his
face; but to borrow the phrase from evantorch, there was real
"spontaneous output" on the part of these two great performers. I have
seen Elliott and Goulding on "The Name's the Same", and they cannot
compare to two very dynamic and spontaneous performers:  Hal Stone and
Bob Hastings.

Stuart Lubin  (otradiofan)

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:22:12 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history 22-28 May

 From Those Were The Days --

5/22

1955 - Jack Benny signed off his last live network radio broadcast after
a run of 23 years.  (His show continued in re-runs for a while longer -ed).

5/23

1922 - The first debate to be heard on radio was broadcast on WJH in
Washington, DC. The two debaters argued about the topic of Daylight
Saving Time with the audience acting as the judge.

5/26

1940 - Invitation to Learning was first heard on CBS. The educational
program ran for 24 years.

5/28

1931 - WOR in New York City premiered The Witch's Tale. The program was
broadcast on the Mutual Broadcasting System (of which WOR was the
flagship station) where it aired until 1938.

Joe

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:22:47 -0400
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CBS Radio News

I definately think CBS has the best top of the hour newscast.  Has anyone
mentioned that the 7 [removed] (Eastern) broadcast is called the "World News
Roundup - Evening Edition? It's just a standard 5 minute newscast, but I
love that reference to the OTR era -obviously done from respect for
tradition as I can't imagine it affects the ratings one bit.  I suppose
there is a "World News Roundup -Morning Edition" as well, but I don't think
I've ever heard it.  Has anyone?

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:23:18 -0400
From: "D. Fisher" <dfisher052@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Galen Drake

I wish I had a copy of one of Galen's shows. I was the Director on Galen's
show in the early 60's at CBS. He was on from 2 to 3 weekday afternoons. The
format was primarily talking to housewives giving houshold hints & just
general patter reading interesting stories. I remember one of the sponsors
was Staley's. It was so long ago now that I really don't remember much else
about the show. As a staff Director you ended up doing so many shows that
after so many years it gets hard remembering them all until someone happens
to mention one. But those were the good old days, the 50's & 60's when I was
in broadcasting in New York. Just when the best of network radio was ending.
It forced many into television or in my case, building my own radio station
in Vermont. Been here ever since.

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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 03:05:35 -0400
From: Jimmyhwbnd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tom Mix
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I have passed the site in Arizona where Tom Mix was killed,  many, many
times, and I have stopped and tried to imagine in my mind what  happened on
that
day in 1940.  I regularly drove back and forth from  Florence and Tucson.  I
heard via some elders in Tucson, Mr. Mix was very  intoxicated.  He was
driving a
CHORD automobile, and something ran across  the road, and he lost control.  I
really don't know how people know  this.  I stopped and I tried to pay homage
to a man who must have  really been a very good man in real life.  Everyone
struggles with deep,  personal issues.  I am sure Mr. Mix had his own to deal
with.  That  does not diminish my personal respect for him, for sure.   Your
friend, James Faulkner, Honolulu

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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 03:05:50 -0400
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Praying to Tom Mix

Andrew Steinberg recalls:

At the Tom Mix memorial I noticed there was a man there.  No vehicle
around.  Just a man, and he was kneeling in front of the monument in
what looked like a prayer posture.  I decided that would not be a good
time to stop!

Gosh, Andrew, I wish you had stopped and talked. Depending on what year
this happened, it was either me or Jim Harmon, paying homage to the
greatest cowboy star ever.  Either one of us would have been happy to
talk to you.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL

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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 03:05:59 -0400
From: DanHaefele@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Galen Drake
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Tom Bewley asked if there are some Galen Drake broadcasts in  circulation.
Yes, there are.  There are some in the SPERDVAC library,  plus a recording of
his radio memories from a SPERDVAC meeting.  He had  some interesting stories
to tell, as I recall.

Dan Haefele

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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 10:52:12 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  5-21 births/deaths

May 21st births

05-21-1901 - Fred Cole - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-19-1964
writer: "Double or Nothing"
05-21-1901 - Horace Heidt - Alameda, CA - d. 12-1-1986
bandleader: "Horace Heidt Brigadiers"; "Pot o' Gold"; "Treasure Chest"
05-21-1903 - Tony LaFrano - d. 11-xx-1986
announcer: "Family Theatre"; "Johnny Modero: Pier 23"
05-21-1904 - Robert Montgomery - Beacon, NY - d. 9-27-1981
actor: "Doctor Fights"; "Suspense"; "This Is War"
05-21-1904 - Thomas "Fats" Waller - NYC - d. 12-15-1943
pianist, singer: "Columbia Variety Hour"; "Saturday Night Swing Club"
05-21-1912 - Lucille Manners - Newark, NJ
singer: "Cities Service Concert"
05-21-1915 - Kathleen Cordell - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-19-1997
actress: Marion Burton Sullivan "Second Mrs. Burton"; Monica Brewster
"Valiant Lady"
05-21-1917 - Dennis Day - The Bronx, NY - d. 6-22-1988
singer, comedian: "Jack Benny Program"; "Day in the Life of Dennis Day"
05-21-1917 - Raymond Burr - New Westminster, [removed], Canada - d. 9-12-1993
actor: Lee Quince "Fort Laramie"; Ed Backstrand "Dragnet"
05-21-1918 - Jeanne Bates - Berkeley, CA
actress: Teddy Lawson "One Man's Family"; "Gunsmoke"
05-21-1923 - Rick Jason - NYC - d. 10-15-2000
actor: "Sears Radio Theatre"

May 21st deaths

01-04-1907 - Floyd Christy - NYC - d. 5-21-1962
writer: "The Johnson Family"
03-04-1913 - John Garfield - NYC - d. 5-21-1952
actor: "Cresta Blanca Hollywood Players"; "Free Company"; "Treasury Star
Parade"
03-24-1928 - Vanessa Brown - Vienna, Austria - d. 5-21-1999
panelist: "Quiz Kids"
03-29-1888 - Earle Ross - IL - d. 5-21-1961
actor: Judge Horace Hooker "Great Gildersleeve"; J. R. Boone, Sr. "Meet Millie"
04-14-1904 - John Gielgud - London, England - d. 5-21-2000
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
05-30-1911 - Douglas Fowley - NYC - d. 5-21-1998
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
06-04-1906 - Vinton Haworth (Hayworth) - Washington, [removed] - d. 5-21-1970
actor: Fred Andrews "Archie Andrews"; Michael Shayne "Michael Shayne"
10-06-1907 - Owen Davis, Jr. - NYC - d. 5-21-1949
actor: Allen McCrea "Those We Love"
10-07-1911 - Vaughn Monroe - Akron, OH - d. 5-21-1973
singer, bandleader: "Penthouse Party"; "Vaughn Monroe Show"
10-21-1908 - Tommy Riggs - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 5-21-1967
comedian: "Fleischmann Hour"; "Quaker Party with Tommy Riggs"; "Tommy Riggs
and Betty Lou"
11-02-1897 - Dennis King - Coventry, England - d. 5-21-1971
announcer: "When a Girl Marries"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 10:53:27 -0400
From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Westwood One/CBS

How the times they are a-changing, and certainly have!

Westwood One is bragging that CBS has 17 million listeners now?  Certainly a
prime example of the drastic alterations in broadcasting.

Of course I'd pick this as just one example of the strength of all the
networks in the Golden Days, but at his peak of popularity in the early to
mid 1950s, Arthur Godfrey had about EIGHTY million regular listeners,
garnered through the very strong CBS network in the USA and Canada.

Yes, they did have their own Columbia outlets to the north of the border.  If
anyone can send me a complete list of CBS O+O plus affiliates in both
countries c. 1952 or so, I will appreciate it.

Be the Good Lord willin', somebody will come up with such!  I'd put good
money on Mike Biel, but will appreciate help from any good folk out there in
the ether (wink wink and a nod to Derek Tague).

Gratefully, Lee Munsick

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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:59:37 -0400
From: <altamont@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Sealtest Ice Cream
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In the late forties and fifties in the Capital District, New York, area,
Sealtest ice cream was probably the most popular ice cream brand. The recent
discussion reminded me of those Satuday nights in  the late forties when my
dad, bringing our family home from our grandparents' home in Schenectady to
our home in Troy, would ALWAYS stop at Johnny O'Brian's grocery store in
Watervliet, NY, for an ice cream cone--and I never varied in my
choice--Sealtest's raspberry royale--to this day my favorite flavor!

Tom Dandrew

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