Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #294
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Date: 10/28/2006 10:44 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 294
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Larry Haines                          [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      War bonds                             [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      Big Band Remotes                      [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
      Complete Broadcast Days               [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      complete broadcast days               [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]
      war Bond                              [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]
      FOTR: Will Hutchins, MIA              [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Baseball broadcasts                   [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
      Matthew Bulliss qustion Re: War Bond  [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      10-28 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Old Time Radio Related Search Engine  [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Mike Wallace                          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Amos 'n' Andy recordings              [ "Sammy Jones" <sjones69@[removed] ]
      Fred Allen and a comment to Travis    [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
      This week in radio history 29 Octobe  [ "Joe Mackey" <joemackey108@adelphia ]

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:25:16 -0400
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Larry Haines

>     If Ron has ever published the birth date of Larry Haines, I have missed it.

    b. Lawrence Hecht of Russian ancestry at Mt. Vernon, N. Y. on August 3, 1917

>     What does anyone know of Larry

    Haines?

    I took great delight in playing up this prolific radio and television
    actor's accomplishments in my newest book released last spring, The Daytime
    Serials of Television, 1946-60 ([removed], 800-253-2187),
    devoting multiple pages and many references to him.  Not just that, he's
    also featured pictorially on the front cover as well as inside.

    I have not seen anything that indicates he has left us since the book went
    to press.  He has been living in Florida in retirement.  He was a serial
    killer in his last soap opera (Loving, 1995), characteristic of his many
    distinguished roles.  I saw him on television in the late 1990s receive some
    kind of award.  He was truly one of the great ones among New York radio
    acting companies.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:28:07 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  War bonds

>     Hello, since I'm too young, being only 28, the programs dealing with war
>     efforts are a little hard to understand. My friend, who is about my dad's
>     age, says there was no income tax back then, so I'm wondering about these
>     war bonds.

    There was indeed income tax back then.  It began in 1913, and since the top
    tax rate was 50%, it did a lot to change the class structure of the nation.

>     Did they eventually pay off, and did the government having to pay
>     all this money, increase the national deficit?

    Yes, and yes.  I believe that War Bonds and Stamps were converted to Series
    E United States Savings Bonds, which you can still buy at your local bank.
    The money you pay goes to the US Government.  They have to pay it back, with
    interest, and they always do.  You can also loan the government lots of
    money at a time by purchasing 'Treasury Bills' for $10,000 each.  Your bank
    does this every day; they're considered a good investment.

>     Did the purchasing of the war
>     bonds really buy supplies such as rifles and amunition?

    Yup, but not directly.  It went into the general fund, which means it also
    went to buy uniforms for the mailman and to paint the stairs at the Statue
    of Liberty.  But in a war like that one, any government needs lots more
    money, which is why they sold special bonds.

>     In my way of
>     thinking, why couldn't the government just print more money?

    Because when money is more plentiful, it is worth less.  The phenomenon is
    known as inflation, and it is why a new Chevrolet no longer costs $3,000.
    It turns out that if more money is placed into circulation, people feel
    richer, but prices go up, too.  So if the Gov't prints up a lot of money and
    uses it to buy tanks, the tank company will find that the price of the steel
    they buy has risen.  We say that the currency has been 'debased.'  (Note:
    since people feel richer when there's more money in circulation, the
    President might be tempted to print up a lot of money as election time
    approaches, or to otherwise manipulate public opinion.  That's why our money
    is issued by an independent group of expert bankers who serve ten-year
    terms.  They're called the Federal Reserve Board.)

>     I know these
>     questions may sound silly to those who lived through it, but I have neither
>     the history, nor the experience, to understand the time quite like I want
>     to.

    They aren't at all silly.  The sort of everyday history that your questions
    represent is not so easy to fill in.

    They have very moving messages at the end of several Fibber and Molly

>     and Gildersleeve programs, and I assume many others, and I'd like to get a
>     sense of the times, since this particular subject wasn't covered in any of
>     my history books, and I have no relatives who are still around from that
>     time period.

    Their memories can be faulty, too.  I was born after WWII, but my parents
    talked about it a lot.  As has been pointed out by any number of authors,
    WWII was the high point of many peoples' lives.

>     Thanks a lot for your input, and for expanding on a subject which is
>     confusing to us younger listeners.

    It ought to be explained better.  As the generations change out, it might be
    useful to include some sort of decoding session with each recorded show to
    answer many of the questions we get here, [removed]: What the heck was Blue Coal?
      What exactly was a telegram, or a 'wire,' or a 'cable?'  What was a
    singing telegram, and why was it funny?  What was a ration stamp?  Why was
    Fibber McGee fascinated with rubber bands during the war?

    That sort of thing.

    M Kinsler

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:14:30 -0400
    From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
    To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Big Band Remotes

    Hi all,
    For the person looking for the big band remotes I have a AFRS New Years Eve
    Big band broadcast, and on vinyl I have some Woody Herman and Dorsey
    Brothers shows.  I believve I also have some Glen Miller in MP3 as well.
    If interested just give me a shout offlist.
    Bill

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:30:18 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Complete Broadcast Days

    On 10/27/06 4:38 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     Is anyone aware of recordings of complete broadcast days aside from the
>     ones I
>     know of Sep 21, 1939 & June 6, 1944 that were recorded and are available?

    Memovox recordings exist of the entire output of NBC Red and Blue from
    2pm on December 7, 1941 thru the full day of December 8. Most of these
    were issued on cassette by Radio Yesteryear in the mid-1990s.

    Some others that exist, but aren't in general circulation --

    NBC recorded everything aired over WEAF from June 6, 1944 to August 16,
    1944, and this over two-month-long continuous recording survives, give or
    take the occasional broken disc, at the Library of Congress. Only the
    first 40 hours or so have ever been circulated.

    The Federal Communications Commission had recordings made of the entire
    broadcast days of all six stations active in Washington DC on July 6,
    1945, for use in a study of the percentage of time devoted to advertising
    in a typical broadcast day. These recordings were analyzed and discussed
    in "Public Service Responsibility of Broadcast Licensees," the famous
    "Blue Book" report released by the commission in 1946. It's not known if
    these recordings still exist in some deep-storage National Archives file
    box, or even the format in which they were made -- it's likely they were
    not high-quality discs, but rather Memovoxes or some such low-grade
    system.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:30:37 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  complete broadcast days

    Hi Everybody,

    regarding the post asking about complete broadcast days.  Listed below are
    complete or partial  days of broadcasting that,s is floating around the
    hobby.  Maybe our   friend Karen Lerner  of Radio spirit could get both NBC
    Red and Blue of 12-8-41 release.  Radio Yesteryear had it out for a while.
    I am still hoping   to land a copy of both those days of broadcasting for my
    collection.

    1.  9-21-39

    2.  12-7-41 NBC Red from 2 PM on

    3.  NBC Blue of 12-7-41 from 2 PM on

    4.  NBC Red 12-8-41

    5.  NBC Blue 12-8-41

    6.  CBS 6-6-44

    7.  CBS 6-7-44 most of the day

    8.  NBC 6-6-44 starting around 2 [removed]

    9.  NBC 6-7-44 until 6 [removed]

    10.  8-10-45 WEAF many hours

    11.  123-55 NBC daytime

    12.  CBS night time 11-17-57

    13.  August 1960 daytime   CBS

    14.  9-6-60 CBS daytime

    15.  9-16-60 CBS daytime

    16.  11-24-60 CBS daytime

    17.  11-25-60 daytime CBS

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:30:55 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  war Bond

    Hi everybody,

    regarding War Bond.  One of my major is in Economic and I spent 10 year in
    the investment fields.  Starting in 1940 we had a income   tax that only hit
    the top 5 percent of income in the USA.  Back in the American revolution our
    paper money  was not worth very much.  In the late 1800s we had the fight
    over our dollars being back by Silver or Gold.  In time of trouble Foreign
    countries  demand our gold rather than paper to pay our trade bills.  In
    1933 FDR took us off the Gold standard  inside the USA.  Thus our government
    had some different choices to pay for the war.  They chose going the bond
    route.  This would be  one way the government was going to try to stop
    inflation.  You has many more people earning money during the war, and we
    were getting out of the great depression.  Bonds  paid around 3-25 percent
    which mint for every 3 dollars you got 4 back in 10 years.  Inflation was a
    concern   like what happen in other countries after World war I.  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:31:50 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  FOTR: Will Hutchins, MIA
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    Hi Gang;

    Earlier this week, I spoke with Bas Within, wife of our l pal Will "Issue"
    Within. Hutch has often told me that the FOR convention in New Jersey is the
    highlight of his year. So, one can surmise that if he's not in attendance,
    there has to be a pretty good reason.

    It turns out that Will had hurt his back and that the sciatica was so bad that
    he was unable to walk without a cane, let alone travel with luggage nor stand
    up at the microphone for re-creations. He's been going for RI's and other
    tests and seems to be recovering ever so slowly.

    Bas told me that Will is still able to indulge in one of his favorite hobbies,
    and that's receiving and sending out cards and letters.  Therefore--with Bas
    Within's permission--I'm posting Will's mailing address so that anyone who'd
    like to write and send him get-well wishes may do so.

    WILL SHUT, [removed] Box 371, Glen Head, NY  11545--0371.

    Yours in the ether (somehow, I went the entire FOR without saying that),

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:03 -0400
    From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Baseball broadcasts

    Free baseball broadcasts can be found at [removed] under Vintage sportcasts
    under the V listings. These can be heard immediately. Some of these games
    include games that Jimmie Foxx and Lou Gehrig played in back in 1934.

    Andrew Godfrey

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:21 -0400
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Matthew Bulliss qustion Re: War Bonds

    If you studied history you would find that WWII stated in 1939. This country
    was still feeling the effects of the Great Depression. The Germans were
    rolling countries in Europe. The Germans were boning England daily, called
    the" Blitz"

    The USA was eventually going to be involve sooner or later. So we started to
    supply war materials to England and Russia. The program was called"Lend
    Lease" we were to paid back someday. In about 1940 the "Draft" stared men
    over 18 were drafted into the army, Navel etc for a one year to be trained
    if needed, and they were.

     President Roosevelt stared National Defense. We were making plane , ships,
    arms ETC. We had to pay the [removed]'s and the bills for all the war material
    So The Treasury started selling "Defense Bond"  For $[removed] in ten years you
    could cash in the bonds and get $[removed]
    For $[removed]  cash in for $[removed]  When I was in grade school we use to buy
    defense stamps for  a quarter or a dime and paste them in a book when we got
    stamps that totaled [removed] we got a bond.

    After Pearl Harbor and we were in the war The Bonds became "War Bonds" and
    After the was over they became victory bond  or just savings bonds. People
    had their employer deduct money, for Bonds, from their pay. Some people
    pledged to buy a bond a week.

    There was income tax in those days, the same IRS that we all know and love.

    Every radio program  asked people to buy bonds, If hear OTR talk about War
    Loans that meant selling bond . Hollywood stars donated their time and money
    to promote and sell bonds . The Stars went tours all over the country to
    sell bond.

    If you had a bond and wanted to cash it in before 10 year you could, and get
    the interest [removed] to the date it was cash in. I believe the government
    pay off all the bonds.

    There are 15 minute OTR sponsored buy the Treasury Dept call "The Treasury
    Star Parade" the episodes were dramatic short dramas on the need for buying
    bond. Top movie stars appeared for free and music by popular bands of the
    day .

    BY,BY BUY BONDS   A sign off that was used at the end of some OTR programs.

    I'm not a scholar, historian or a writer, but I was kid in the those days,
    and was on every bodies mind, and I'll never forget it.

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    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:57:23 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  10-28 births/deaths

    October 28th births

    10-28-1886 - Ruth Gates - Denton, TX - d. 5-23-1966
    actor: Mrs Lenord "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
    10-28-1895 - Herb Butterfield - Rhode Island - d. 5-2-1957
    actor: Clarence Wellman "Halls of Ivy"; Hunter Glenn "One Man's Family"
    10-28-1895 - John Boles - Greenville, TX - d. 2-27-1969
    actor, singer: "Texaco Star Theatre"
    10-28-1896 - Howard Hanson - Wahoo, NE - d. 2-26-1981
    conductor, composer: "New York Philharmonic"; "ASCAP World's Fair
    Concert"
    10-28-1897 - Edith Head - San Bernardino, CA - d. 10-24-1981
    costume designer: Intermission Guest "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-28-1902 - Elsa Lanchester - Lewisham, England - d. 12-26-1986
    actor: "Arch Oboler's Plays"; "Columbia Presents Corwin"; "Everyman's
    Theatre"
    10-28-1905 - Ed Thorgerson - Wisconsin - d. 8-xx-1985
    sports announcer
    10-28-1906 - Lou Bring - d. 7-15-1951
    orchestra leader: "The Al Jolson Show"; "The Gracie Fields Show"
    10-28-1908 - David LeWinter - NYC - d. 1-22-1976
    orchestra leader: Late night dance band remotes
    10-28-1912 - Madaline Lee - Dallas, TX - d. 1-10-1974
    actor: Genevive Blue "Amos 'n' Andy"; Wendy Burton "Second Mrs. Burton"
    10-28-1913 - Ruth Peterson - Wauwatosa, WI - d. 2-2-1985
    actor: Linda Carroll "Hawthorne House"
    10-28-1917 - Ron Rawson - d. 7-18-1994
    announcer: "Right to Happiness"; "Advs. of Topper"; "Advs. of the
    Thin Man"
    10-28-1934 - Johnny Western - Two Harbors, MN
    singer, actor, songwriter: (Ballad of Paladin) Daily show on KFDI
    Wichita, KS

    October 28th deaths

    01-26-1914 - Jack de Manio - Hampstead, England - d. 10-28-1988
    announcer: "Today"; "Jack de Manio Precisely"; "Woman's Hour"
    02-22-1891 - George Jeske - Utah - d. 10-28-1951
    writer: "Truth or Consequences"
    04-01-1917 - Leon Janney - Ogden, UT - d. 10-28-1980
    actor: Danny Stratford "Life of Mary Sothern"; Richard Parker "Parker
    Family"
    07-27-1918 - Veola Vonn - NYC - d. 10-28-1995
    actor: Dimples Wilson "Blondie"; Princess Nadji "Chandu the Magician"
    08-29-1913 - Sylvia Fine - NYC - d. 10-28-1991
    writer: (Wife of Danny Kaye) "Danny Kaye Show"; "Forecast"; "Bud's
    Bandwagon"
    09-15-1915 - Phil Brito - Boomer, WV - d. 10-28-2005
    narrator: "Moon River"
    09-16-1919 - Larry Dobkin - NYC - d. 10-28-2002
    actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; Ellery Queen "Advs. of
    Ellery Queen"
    09-17-1907 - Alice Yourman - d. 10-28-2000
    actor: Mary Andrews "Archie Andrews"; [removed] Aldrich "Aldrich Family"
    10-06-1899 - Mitchell Leisen - Menominee, MI - d. 10-28-1972
    director: Lux Radio Theatre
    11-02-1892 - Alice Brady - NYC - d. 10-28-1939
    actor: "Hollywood Hotel"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:01:50 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Old Time Radio Related Search Engine

    I have improved my old time radio search engine on my web site by
    harnessing some of Google's technology. It should be pretty
    comprehensive for radio related searches. Feel free to give it a try at:

    [removed]

    or off my home page:

    [removed]

    Jim Widner

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    Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:02:08 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mike Wallace

>     Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:22:02 -0400
>     From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];

>     Yes, there was a Quiz Kids on television in the 1950's and 1960's. I
>     seem to recall that Jack Barry was the narrator, and possibly, Mike
>     [removed] may be wrong about Mike Wallace, though. It seems like he
>     was the narrator at one time. He did have a kids show in the 1950's on
>     television called, "Winky Dink and You."It was apuppet show like Shari
>     Lewis had. Mike Wallace was all over radio and television in the 40's
>     and 70's, and up to the 2000's on television, as a host or [removed]
>     a resume he has to fall back on! Several dealers have many Quiz Kids
>     shows for sale if you would care to contact me off-line.

    I remember Mike Wallace as the quizmaster on one of the big-money
    quiz shows of the 1950s, something called "The Big Surprise."  He
    apparently started out doing various sorts of entertainment shows,
    and then moved to doing interviews of news personalities. I seem to
    remember the first of those that I saw, in which he interviewed Abba
    Eban, who at that time was Israel's ambassador to the United States.

    According to Alex McNeil's "Total Television," Jack Barry was the
    host of "Winky-Dink and You."  He lists The Quiz Kids as having been
    on television, first on NBC and then on CBS, from 1949 to 1953 and
    says that Joe Kelly, who hosted the radio version, was the first host
    on television, later succeeded by Clifton Fadiman.

    I don't remember the Quiz Kids on radio or television, except that I
    remember they once appeared on the Howdy Doody Show, probably around
    1950.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:48:59 -0400
    From: "Sammy Jones" <sjones69@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Amos 'n' Andy recordings

    Does anyone out there on the list know of any devolpments in the "Finding
    Recordings of the Serial Amos 'n' Andy Dept."?

    I know several people on this list are hard-core A&A enthusiasts, so if
    there's any news or even 3rd hand rumors of A&A serial-era recordings
    turning up, I'd like to know!

    Thanks in advance,
    Sammy Jones

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    Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:49:47 -0400
    From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fred Allen and a comment to Travis
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    I always find it interesting that we get the "Fred Allen is or isn't funny"
    comments at least twice a year in the OTR digest.

    Some collectors claim that Fred had humor that was appropriate for the time
    period it was released, but doesn't work very well now.  Others believe that
    Fred's best work was with Jack Benny.  And a few feel that it was necessary to
    have an extensive knowledge of the English language in order to appreciate
    Fred's talent with words.  I honestly find his humor to be more 'reactionary'
    than funny. Fred rarely missed a beat when he responded to comment by one of
    his cast members, Jack Benny or anybody else he interacted with on the air.
    His remarks weren't necessarily funny, but he knew how to get 'the last word
    in' on any subject.

    An OTR member member named Travis made the remark that 'old turntables should
    be seen and not heard!'  While I can certainly understand his frustration
    about certain transcriptions not sounding as clean as a new CD [removed]
    might want to remember that many of the shows we enjoy were recorded direct to
    16" [removed] on acetate tape that has seen better days?  And all the digital
    'clean-up' in the world won't correct an imperfect original source that has
    distortion, build in scratches or skips in the grooves that gradually
    developed thanks to a bad stylus or tape head.

    Gary

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    Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:12:46 -0400
    From: "Joe Mackey" <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: "otrd" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This week in radio history 29 October to 4
     November

    >From Those Were The Days --
    10/30

    Orson Welles, known to radio audiences as The Shadow, presented his famous
    dramatization of [removed] Wells' The War of the Worlds on CBS's Mercury Theater
    at 8 [removed]

    10/31
    1942 - One of the great wartime shows premiered. CBS debuted Thanks to the
    Yanks, starring Bob Hawk. It became one of the most popular of the wartime
    programs.

    11/1

    1937 - The first broadcast of Hilltop House was aired on CBS; while on NBC,
    the comic strip character Terry and the Pirates debuted.

    11/2

    1931 - Myrt and Marge was heard for the first time -- on CBS. The program
    centered on two chorus girls who competed for the same parts and the same
    men. The creator and writer (Cliff Thomas wrote some) of the series, Myrtle
    Vail, also played the role of Myrt; and the original Marge was performed by
    Vail's daughter, Donna Fick. Three other performers played the part when
    Donna  died giving birth. Myrt and Marge continued for 11 years.

      Joe

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