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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2009 : Issue 238
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      12-10 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      No Dennis Day?                        [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      Theme music to sell [removed]            [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      A global disappointment               [ Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@sbcgl ]
      12-11 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      More on The Cinnamon Bear".           [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
      BBC Archives and the British Library  [ Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed] ]
      Re: CBS blacklist                     [ LBiel <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      Gene Barry dies at 90                 [ IreneTH@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:12:46 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  12-10 births/deaths

    Sorry for the delay, just got over a 30 hour power outage

    December 10th births

    12-10-1889 - Arthur Vinton - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-26-1963
    actor: Killer Kane "Buck Rogers"; Commissioner Weston "The Shadow"
    12-10-1889 - Ray Collins - Sacramento, CA - d. 7-11-1965
    actor: Doc Will Hackett, "County Seat"; member of The Mercury Theatre
    12-10-1893 - Lew Brown - Odessa, Russia - d. 2-5-1958
    producer: "Music for Millions"
    12-10-1903 - Una Merkel - Covington, KY - d. 1-2-1986
    actor: Adeline Fairchild "Great Gildersleeve"; "Johnny Presents";
    "Texaxo Star Theatre"
    12-10-1906 - Harold Adamson - Greenville, NJ - d. 8-17-1980
    song writer: "Hedda Hopper's Hollywood"
    12-10-1907 - Rumer Godden - Eastbourne, England - d. 11-8-1998
    novelist: "Woman's Hour"
    12-10-1908 - Bill Spargrove - Belle Plaine, IA - d. 9-xx-1984
    announcer: "Hollywood Byline"
    12-10-1910 - Abraham Polonsky - NYC - d. 12-26-1999
    writer: "Mecury Theatre on the Air"
    12-10-1911 - Chet Huntley - Cardwell, MT - d. 3-20-1974
    newscaster, producer: "Chet Huntley and the News"
    12-10-1913 - Jean Dickenson - Montreal, Canada - d. 1-26-2007
    singer: (Nightingale of the Airwaves) "American Album of Familiar Music"
    12-10-1913 - Morton Gould - Richmond Hill, NY - d. 2-21-1996
    conductor: "Music for Today"; "Original Amateur Hour"; "Cresta Blanca
    Carnival"
    12-10-1914 - Dorothy Lamour - New Orleans, LA - d. 9-21-1996
    singer, actor: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Front and Center"; "Sealtest
    Variety Show"
    12-10-1919 - Alexander Courage - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-15-2008
    music: "Broadway Is My Beat"; "Hollywood Soundstage"; "Romance"
    12-10-1923 - Michael Gill - Winchester, England - d. 10-20-2005
    producer: Joined BBC in 1954
    12-10-1925 - Amaryllis Flemming - Chelsea, England - d. 7-27-1999
    cellist: (Half sister to Ian Fleming) "Children's Hour"
    12-10-1925 - Jean Byron - Paducah, KY - d. 2-3-2006
    singer on radio in her native Kentucky
    12-10-1960 - Kenneth Branagh - Belfast, North Ireland
    actor: Renaissance Theatre Company in association with BBC Radio Drama

    December 10th deaths

    02-02-1901 - Jascha Heifetz - Vilnius, Lithuania - d. 12-10-1987
    classical violinist: "Telephone Hour"; "Soldiers in Greaspaint";
    "Concert Hall"
    02-08-1907 - Phil Davis - Cincinnati, OH - d. 12-10-1985
    musician: "Avalon Time"; "Scramby Amby"
    02-25-1932 - Faron Young - Shreveport, LA - d. 12-10-1996
    country singer: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Country Style [removed]"
    03-08-1924 - Sean McClory - Dublin, Ireland - d. 12-10-2003
    actor: "Favorite Story"; "NBC University Theatre"
    03-11-1900 - Andy Sannella - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-10-1962
    bandleader: "Campbell Soup Orchestra"; "Gillette Community Sing"
    03-14-1869 - Algernon Blackwood - d. 12-10-1951
    author: "Escape"
    03-26-1907 - Leigh Harline - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 12-10-1969
    music: "Eddie Bracken Show"; "Ford Festival of American Music"
    03-29-1916 - Eugene McCarthy - Watkins, MN - d. 12-10-2005
    [removed] senator: "Meet the Press"
    05-05-1899 - Freeman F. Gosden - Richmond, VA - d. 12-10-1982
    comedian: "Sam 'n' Henry"; Amos Jones "Amos 'n' Andy"
    05-08-1895 - Bishop Fulton J. Sheen - El Paso, IL - d. 12-10-1979
    preacher: "Catholic Hour"
    05-28-1918 - Elizabeth Harrower - Alameda, CA - d. 12-10-2003
    actor: "NBC University Theatre"
    06-13-1894 - Mark Van Doren - Hope, IL - d. 12-10-1972
    pulitzer prize winning poet: "NBC University Theatre"; "Invitation to
    Learning"
    07-15-1919 - Eve McVeagh - Ohio - d. 12-10-1997
    actor: Harriet Beatty "Clyde Beatty Show"
    07-19-1913 - Charlie Teagarden - Vernon, TX - d. 12-10-1984
    trumpet: (Brother of Jack) "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street"
    08-02-1892 - John Kieran - The Bronx, NY, New  - d. 12-10-1980
    panelist: "Information, Please"
    08-02-1912 - Ann Dvorak - NYC - d. 12-10-1979 - d. 12-10-1979
    actor: "Movietone Radio Theatre"
    08-05-1915 - Peter Lisagor - Keystone, WV - d. 12-10-1976
    chicago daily news [removed] bureau chief: "Meet the Press"
    08-26-1907 - Jack Berch - Sigel, IL - d. 12-10-1992
    singer: "Kitchen Pirate"; "Sweetheart Serenade"; "Jack Berch Show"
    09-03-1918 - Jimmy Riddle - Dyersberg, TN - d. 12-10-1982
    harmonica: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Crustene Ranch Party"; "Roy Acuff Show"
    09-05-1923 - Joan Wagner Beck - Clinton, IA - d. 12-10-1998
    scriptwriter: "Voice of America"
    09-26-1908 - Sylvia Marlowe - NYC - d. 12-10-1981
    harpsichord virtuoso: "Lavender and New Lace"; "Sylvia Marlowe and
    Richard Dyer-Bennet"
    10-04-1884 - Damon Runyon - Manhattan, KS - d. 12-10-1946
    short story writer: "Good News of 1940"; "Damon Runyon Theatre"
    10-13-1903 - Patsy Moran - Pennsylvania - d. 12-10-1968
    actor: Martha Hoople "Major Hoople"; Hilda "Junior Miss"
    11-01-1915 - Bob Garred - Walla Walla, WA - d. 12-10-1956
    announcer: "The Stanford Hour"; "I Want a Divorce"
    11-06-1887 - Walter Johnson - Humboldt, KS - d. 12-10-1946
    baseball great: Play-by-Play Washington Senators
    12-11-1914 - Marie Windsor - Marysville, UT - d. 12-10-2000
    actor: "Escape"; "Suspense"; "Lux Radio Theatre"

    Ron

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:13:14 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  No Dennis Day?

    Jack French wonders why Dennis Day songs are cut from Jack Benny
    [removed]

    Chuck Shaeden used to play Jack Benny shows on Chicago's WBBM-FM.  His
    show ran for one hour, but he had to also run the 5-minute
    top-of-the-hour CBS newscast, and some local traffic-weather-news
    headlines.  So his hour program was closer to 45 minutes.  In order to
    get two half-hour shows in that time slot, he had to cut.  And the Dennis
    Day song was always the first to go, because it was the only part of the
    show that didn't affect the ongoing story line.

    Even without the news breaks, when OTR shows are run on radio today, they
    have to make cuts because there are more minutes of commercials per hour
    now than there were when those shows ran originally.

    ---Dan, [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:13:25 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Theme music to sell [removed]

    The Cinnamon Bear was not the only program to have long intros, music, no
    announcements.
    Listen to Boston Blackie, Green Hornet, Frontier Town, and Philo Vance, to
    name a few.  Many other syndicated shows had the musical "beds" -- or
    whatever they are called.

    And some of those shows from the 1930s had extrememly long musical openings,
    and some of the music was very repetitious.

    Ted Kneebone. 1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401. Phone: 605-226-3344.

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:13:35 -0500
    From: Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  A global disappointment

    Hesitating to write about television to this list, I nevertheless was moved
    by reading Jim Cox's post on the canceling of "As the World Turns". In 1956,
    I was living in NYC, and an acquaintance who was associated with the new
    show, knowing that I was an avid fan of radio---not called "old-time
    then---told me that three radio actors had gotten roles on it:  Don
    McLaughlin, Santos Ortega, and William Johnstone.  My friend managed to get
    me a seat one
    day to view the live telecast.  I really believed that I was going to meet
    all three aforementioned actors that day, but only Mr. McLaughlin of the
    three were on set.  He was a very friendly man.  I was just 21 years old, but
    he was impressed that I knew which roles he had played on radio. What I
    remember mostly was that this early TV soap opera was done just like radio
    was:  Commercials were not dramatized, and only one announcer delivered each
    of them. There was live organ music.  This experience of over 53 years ago
    made me an avid fan of the series, with the advent of the VCR making things
    easier.  Now, starting in September, 2010, what am I going to do with that
    extra hour?  Certainly, I am not going to watch CBS during the day.  I am
    going to utilize that extra time to enjoy again the many radio shows I have.

    Stuart

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:13:44 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  12-11 births/deaths

    December 11th births

    12-11-1882 - Fiorello La Guardia - NYC - d. 9-20-1947
    NYC mayor: "Douglas Corrigan Parade"; "This Is New York"; "Reads the
    Funnies"
    12-11-1883 - Victor McLaglen - Tunbridge Wells, England - d. 11-7-1959
    actor: Captain Flagg "Captain Flagg and Sergeant Quirt"; Mountie Eric
    Lewis "Red Trails"
    12-11-1894 - Eddie Dowling - Woonsocket, RI - d. 2-18-1976
    host: "We, the People"; "Ziegfeld Follies of the Air"
    12-11-1898 - Shoji Taro - Akita, Japan - d. 10-4-1972
    enka singer: "Kohaku Uta Gassen"
    12-11-1905 - Pare Lorentz - Clarksburg, WV - d. 3-4-1992
    writer: "Columbia Workshop"
    12-11-1908 - Sally Eilers - NYC - d. 1-5-1978
    actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    12-11-1910 - Samuel Kurtzman - d. 1-14-1998
    writer: "The Bob Hope Show"
    12-11-1911 - Beecher Pete Kirby - Sevierville, TN - d. 10-17-2002
    dobro, guitar, banjo player: (Member Smokey Mountain Boys) "Grand Ole
    Opry"
    12-11-1911 - Sam Levenson - NYC - d. 8-27-1980
    humorist: "Arthur Godfrey Show"; "City Club Forum"
    12-11-1914 - Marie Windsor - Marysville, UT - d. 12-10-2000
    actor: "Escape"; "Suspense"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-11-1915 - Dolly Good - Mt. Carmel, IL - d. 11-12-1967
    singer: (Girls of the Golden West) "National Barn Dance"
    12-11-1920 - Eddie Firestone, Jr. - San Francisco, CA - d. 3-1-2007
    actor: Joey Brewster "That Brewster Boy"; William Herbert Murray "One
    Man's Family"
    12-11-1922 - Robert Arden - London, England - d. 3-25-2004
    actor: "America Looks Abroad"
    12-11-1923 - Betsy Blair - Cliffside, NJ - d. 3-13-2009
    actor: "Favorite Story"; "Meet Me in St. Louis"
    12-11-1924 - Felix "Doc" Blanchard - Bishopville, SC - d. 4-18-2009
    football great: "Heisman Trophy Award"
    12-11-1926 - Dick Tufeld - Los Angeles, CA
    announcer: "The Amazing Mr. Malone"; "Space Patrol"
    12-11-1943 - Christine Lyons - Detroit, MI
    free-lance radio reporter: "Update, Where Are They Now?"
    12-11-1947 - Charles Palliser - Holyoke, MA
    author: "The Journal of Simon Owen"

    December 11th deaths

    01-05-1938 - Lindsay Crosby - California - d. 12-11-1989
    actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
    01-15-1914 - Carlos Ramirez - Tocaim, Colombia - d. 12-11-1986
    vocalist: "Grapevine Rancho"
    01-31-1909 - Walter Coy - Great Falls, MT - d. 12-11-1974
    actor: Michael Lanyard/Lone Wolf "Lone Wolf"
    02-03-1919 - Dolly Dawn - Newark, NJ - d. 12-11-2002
    bandleader: "Dolly Dawn and Her Dawn Patrol"
    02-20-1906 - Richard Himber - Newark, NJ - d. 12-11-1966
    bandleader: "Studebaker Champions"; "Your Hit Parade"
    03-23-1874 - Fiddlin' John Carson - Cobb County, GA - d. 12-11-1949
    fiddler: Made debut on station WSB Atlanta, Georgia
    04-14-1914 - Arnold Perl - d. 12-11-1971
    writer: "The Big Story"; "I Fly Anything"; "The Amazing Mr. Tutt"
    04-25-1921 - Robert Q. Lewis - NYC - d. 12-11-1991
    disc jockey, comedian, host: "Arthur Godrey Time"; "Robert Q. Lewis
    Show"
    05-04-1874 - Frank Conrad - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 12-11-1941
    "the father of radio broadcasting" Started radio station KDKA in his
    garage
    05-15-1913 - James Baxter - Yucalpa, CA - d. 12-11-1964
    writer of radio scripts
    05-28-1898 - Andy Kirk - Newport, KY - d. 12-11-1992
    bandleader: (Clouds of Joy) "Andy Kirk and His Orchestra"
    05-28-1912 - Dave Barbour - Flushing, NY - d. 12-11-1965
    orchestra leader, composer, actor: "Electric Hour"; "Chesterfield
    Supper Club"
    06-25-1911 - Reed Hadley - Petrolia, TX - d. 12-11-1974
    actor: Red Ryder "Red Ryder"; Chad Remington "Frontier Town"
    07-07-1911 - Lou Maury - Butte, MT - d. 12-11-1975
    pianist: "What's the Name of That Song?"
    07-16-1888 - Percy Kilbride - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-11-1964
    actor,host: "Paul Whiteman Presents"; "Melody Round-Up"; "Stars in the
    Air"
    08-08-1900 - James Pierce - Freedom, IN - d. 12-11-1983
    actor: Tarzan "Tarzan"
    08-18-1937 - William Rushton - London, England - d. 12-11-1996
    comediam: "I'm Sorry, I Haven't a Clue"
    09-03-1893 - Anthony Collins - Hastings, England - d. 12-11-1963
    composer: "Ceiling Unlimited"
    09-11-1909 - Anne Seymour - NYC - d. 12-11-1988
    actor: "Mary Marlin "Story of Mary Marlin"; Francie Nolan "Tree Grows
    in Brooklyn"
    09-16-1908 - Neil Reagan - Tampico, IL - d. 12-11-1996
    director, announcer: (Brother of Ron) "Dr. Christian"; "Straight Arrow"
    09-19-1910 - Arthur Mullard - London, England - d. 12-11-1995
    actor: Jack (Dad Porter) "Industrial Inaction"; "Brothers In Law"
    10-02-1905 - Mary Breckinridge - NYC - d. 12-11-2002
    correspondent: "CBS News of Europe"; "World News Today"
    10-09-1915 - Lee Wiley - Fort Gibson, OK - d. 12-11-1975
    singer: "Lee Wiley"; "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"; "It's Florida's
    Treat"
    10-19-1916 - David Lewis - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 12-11-2000
    actor: "Wake Up America"
    11-02-1909 - Fred Lowery - Palestine, TX - d. 12-11-1984
    whistler: (The Blind Whistler) "New Fred Lowrey Show"; "Horace Heidt
    Show"

    Ron

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:14:15 -0500
    From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  More on The Cinnamon Bear".

    When I post my answer to "The Cinnamon Bear my" old brain forgot to
    mention that several years ago Chuck Schaden on His "those Were The
    Days" Program Played a recording that was, I think, called "The making
    of The Cinnamon Bear" That was made for potential sponsors. Maybe Steve
    Darnall could find the recording in the vast library of "Those Were
    Days" and could play it for the his world wide listners of Those were
    the day over WDCB some [removed] answers a lot of question.
    Frank McGurn

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:14:25 -0500
    From: Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  BBC Archives and the British Library
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    Some intersting items in this mornings UK media about BBC Archives and the
    British Library. Main item seemed to be in The Guradian. Best way to see it is
    probably just to Google the title: BBC and British Library to take joint
    approach to building digital archive.

    Cheers !  Graeme  ( ORCA / UK )

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:14:32 -0500
    From: LBiel <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: CBS blacklist

    (From Michael Biel via Leah Biel's address)

    Kermyt Anderson recently referred to noted researcher Jeff Kisseloff's blog
    which reproduced what Kermyt termed "the official CBS 'do not hire' list from
    the 1950s".  In the following digest my friend Martin Grams discussed a
    telephone interview he had with Hi Brown and refers to that list as "CBS' hit
    list".  Martin even describes Brown's reaction:

>     When I brought up the fact about his name appearing on
>     CBS' hit list, he clammed up and told me he was never on
>     such a list and then told me over the phone that I should
>     have done my research before bringing that up.

    Hy might have been right.  From a reading of the facsimile of the list, the
    blog about the history of the list, and especially the questions and answers
    below the main article, it becomes evident that this list was not authored by
    CBS any more than the book Red Channels would have been authored by CBS.  The
    ONLY connection between this list and CBS is Sig Mikelson's statement that it
    had been handed to him by Frank Stanton with a statement that could be either
    "Nobody on this list gets hired" or that "This is a good list."  That this
    list, the book "Red Channels", and the Counterattack newsletters did affect
    CBS' hiring and firing is unfortunately true, but to claim that this list is
    "the official CBS 'do not hire' list" or "CBS' hit list" is very inaccurate
    and unfair.  Yes they apparently used and referred to it, but it is not THEIR
    list.  That is a BIG difference.  The Loyalty Oath was a CBS creation, and
    Kisselhoff reports that CBS did have a "security office" to investigate the
    loyalty of employees, but don't mischaracterize the authorship of that list.

    I urge everyone to read this blog AND the comments after it.
    [removed]
    Also look at the linked NY Times article and an actual facsimile of the CBS
    Loyalty Oath.  The latter item is amazing to actually see for the first time.

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:21:26 -0500
    From: IreneTH@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Gene Barry dies at 90

    Here is a link to the NY Times obituary.

    [removed];emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

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