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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2007 : Issue 232
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
The Standard Hour [ Tom Hood <thood@[removed]; ]
Captain Midnight [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
Re: Cassette Tapes, CDs and DVDs [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
New Archive for the BBC [ Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed] ]
Re: Cassettes [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
Cassettes VS Discs or DVD's [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
Trains [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
Old time collectors of [removed] [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
cassettes [ mchone@[removed] ]
WTIC Golden Age of Radio - new featu [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed] ]
8-11 births/deaths [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:44:33 -0400
From: Tom Hood <thood@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Standard Hour
Hi All
I have an interest in great singing which was a feature of The Standard Hour
broadcast mostly from San Francisco.
I do have some complete broadcasts & hilites but I am always looking for
[removed] have a large trading list.
The Chicago Theater of the Air,The Bell Telephone [removed] Voice of
Firestone,The Ford Hour,The General Motors Hour are also of interest.
Tom Hood
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:53:00 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Captain Midnight
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:13:50 -0400
From: Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed];
One show that lasted much longer on OTR than on TV was
Captain Midnight. The epic OTR serial spanned 11 years (1938 through
1949. The TV show lasted about half that long.
Not even. I'm away on vacation and can't look it up, but I believe
they did only a season or two and then reran them endlessly.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
92 State Street Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02109 [removed]
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:55:06 -0400
From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cassette Tapes, CDs and DVDs
On 8/9/2007 "lasisk" wrote:
Like Frank I find that the sound of my earliest cassette is as good now
as it was 40 years ago. I have dropped cassettes many times and don't have to
worry about bending or warping . I wonder if this would be true for CDs or
DVDs? Do any of you have an opinion as to how durable the new discs are when
compared to traditional cassettes?
As to whether CDs and DVDs will be good forty years from now, who
knows. I expect that in forty years whatever you want will be
available in some archive for instant access or we will be using
memory chips for everything. Sandisc is selling an 8GB SD card and
has announced a 16 GB SD card to be available later this year.
Roughly, that is the equal to 25 CDs or 3 DVDs. My DVD recorder has a
USB port and can play MP3 recordings from a memory fob.
Recordable CDs can be damaged by scratching the label side of the
disc. This is easy to do with a ball point pen. Some are better made
than others.
Recordable DVDs are laminated so the recording surface is between two
pieces of polycarbonate (tough plastic). You can't hurt them as
easily as you can CDs and how you label them won't hurt the recording
surface. On the other hand, because there are two thin layers of
plastic, they can be chipped or cracked fairly easily in the center
hole, especially if you store them in CD jewel boxes instead of boxes
designed for DVDs. The jewel boxes have a habit of snagging one of the layers.
It would be unusual to damage a CD or a DVD by dropping it.
Don
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:54:51 -0400
From: Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: New Archive for the BBC
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In last weeks edition of Ariel ( the BBC staff magazine ) an item was carried
about the ongoing problem of water-damage to master tapes in the old BBC
Archives building at Windmill Road in West London.
Sarah Hayes, head of Media Asset Management, BBC Information and Archives,
noted that 'the BBC certainly does recognise the value of its archive and the
important investment for a new facility has been approved. We have recently
secured a building in Perivale, intended to replace the storage areas in
Windmill Rd , and work will begin shortly ' .
Graeme Stevenson Editor : Tune into Yesterday ORCA / UK
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:56:07 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cassettes
At 11:31 PM 8/9/2007, you wrote:
Like Frank I find that the sound of my earliest cassette is as good now
as it was 40 years ago. I have dropped cassettes many times and don't have to
worry about bending or warping . I wonder if this would be true for CDs or
DVDs? Do any of you have an opinion as to how durable the new discs are when
compared to traditional cassettes?
Nothing last forever. The adhesive that holds the leader to the
cassette tape will eventually wear out and you will need to resplice
the leader to the tape. If your take up belt ever gets too stretch or
breaks, there is a good chance your cassette tape will jam in the
machine and a few inches of tape will be mangled. Just playing your
cassette many times will cause the high frequencies to drop off.
Putting the cassette next to a magnetic device, like a speaker, or
the top of a TV set or even a telephone can cause the tape to become
partially or completely erased.
On the CD side, leaving the recorded side exposed to the sun will do
damage to the dyes on the disc.
If given proper case, both formats should last a long time. It always
pays to start with a good quality tape and disc.
But when it comes to making copies for trading, the digital area is
the best way to go. Every time you go down a generation in tape, you
loose some quality. Make a disc copy of a CD and the quality is the
same. Notice I said disc copy, not disc transfer. You copy CDs in a
computer or duplicating tower, not by playing back a CD into another
recording device. They may be obvious, but I know a lot of people who
are making copies of DVDs by playing them back in a player and
attaching the output of that player to a DVD recorder.
Anyway, the important thing with any format is to keep them safe from
extreme temperatures and handle them properly.
Fred
Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:28:49 -0400
From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Cassettes VS Discs or DVD's
Boy this is sort of a tough one.
Sound quality on discs is better, but I would agree that the jury is still
out on how long they will last.
I too have many shows on cassette and am archiving them to disc. Actually
I've improved the quality a lot.
The cassette format was pretty durable but the quality was never up to what
it could have been.
I also just had to go out and buy a cassette machine. The good thing is you
can get about a $400 for around
$200 these days.
Hopefully it'll last long enough to get these transfered. <grin>
Bill
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:29:06 -0400
From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Trains
I was just curious how many otr shows, either weekly series or individual
programs, were written around
trains?
An ideas?
Bill
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:30:45 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Old time collectors of [removed]
I started collecting radio broadcasts in about 1949. You wouldn't want to
hear many of those early programs! They were recorded on wire, disc, and
open reel tape. Usually, since I was in high school at the time, I borrowed
the school's Wilcox-Gay Recordio and recorded music programs at 33 1/3 rpm.
Poor quality, some were on cardboard discs.
Then came the wire recorder. The only radio that I have from that
experiment is part of Gen. MacArthur's "Old soldiers never die" speech, and
something about a Freedom Bell. Later, I copied these programs onto disc.
In those days, when concert artists appeared in Sisseton, SD, they allowed
me to record their concerts.
Then came tape reels. Most of these were recordings of local concerts by
our band and choir. Occasionally, I patched into our console radio and got
airchecks of the NY Philharmonic Symphony and the NBC Symphony, but I
deleted the commentary. Before I knew about patching directly from the
radio, I just put a microphone in front of the loudspeaker. Very
unsatisfactory. All this was very sporadic and depended on my being able to
borrow a recorder. In 1966, I bought my own Lafayette
4-track reel recorder and a shortwave radio. That began fairly regular
recordings of the NYPSO, minus the commentary. I must have had some kind of
historic sense because beginning in 1960 I recorded the audio from
television of various programs, especially the Democrat and Republican
national conventions. I have some of them in nearly gavel-to-gavel
coverage. After 1972, I quit recording the conventions. Many of the Face
the Nation, Meet the Press, and Issues and Answers programs are still on my
reels, awaiting the day when I get them transferred to cassettes.
My collection is on cassettes and some CDs. Cataloging CDs is not a
picnic, so there is a large backlog of those programs waiting in my
basement.
In 1994, when I got my first computer, I began trading these programs
and building my "library" of old time radio. Which was not really "old
time" since I lived through most of this history. The database became the
medium for preparing an accurate catalog of my recordings.
I am beginning to realize what a gold mine of ancient history I am!
Today I tried to buy a sieve at a large hardware store. No one knew what I
was talking about. I described that household tool, and was shown a
"skimmer." Not really a sieve, but it will work! Decided to tell the young
clerk about listening to music on a phonograph. "A what?" "Phonograph."
"Oh, you mean a record player?" "Yes, that's [removed]" I guess anyone over 60
is a repository of all kinds of interesting historical [removed]
Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:32:58 -0400
From: mchone@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: cassettes
Put me on the same list as Frank McGurn and 'Lasisk'. I have been collecting
OTR on cassettes for quite a while and even the earliest tapes in my collection
still sound like they did when first recorded. Like 'Lasisk' I have amassed
several cassette players and recorders and bought a couple of boxes of
cassettes
from Ed Carr when he went over to the CD camp. I stopped amassing tapes a
while back and now just listen to them. I can see the handwriting on the wall
and may someday convert to CD, but not for a while.
Roby McHone
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:51:23 -0400
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: WTIC Golden Age of Radio - new feature
Tune in to [removed] for a new feature:
"The Night of the Encounter!"
This program originated at the Springfield (Massachusetts)
Museum of Science on July 14, 1965 - the day that
Mariner 4 photographed the Red Planet and sent pictures
to earth. Dick Bertel interviewed reknowned scientists in
Springfield, Washington, and at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
in Pasadena. Dick's co-host was Richard Hoagland, curator
of the museum.
An interesting highlight is that a portion of the program was
broadcast via a LASER beam. The show was received atop
a mountain in Springfield via traditional telephone lines, then
sent back to the museum over a LASER supplied and operated
by PerkinElmer Corporation now in Waltham, Massachusetts.
The program was originally 5 hours; this version is reduced to
a half-hour.
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:54:53 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 8-11 births/deaths
August 11th births
08-11-1867 - Joe Weber - NYC - d. 5-10-1940
comedian: (Weber and Fields) "The Eveready Hour"; "George Jessel Show"
08-11-1868 - Edgar Norton - London, England - d. 2-6-1953
actor: "I Love A Mystery"
08-11-1891 - Helen Broderick - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-25-1959
actor: (Mother of Broderick Crawford) "Shell Chateau"
08-11-1900 - Norma Shearer - Montreal, Canada - d. 6-12-1983
actor: "Everyman's Theatre"; "Louella Parsons"
08-11-1902 - Lloyd Nolan - San Francisco, CA - d. 9-27-1985
actor: Johnny Strange "Results Inc."; Martin Kane "Martin Kane,
Private Eye"
08-11-1904 - Jess Stacy - Bird's Point, MO - d. 1-5-1994
jazz piano player: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
08-11-1908 - Russell Procope - d. 1-21-1981
clarinetist, saxophonist: "Duke Ellington and His Orchestra";
"Ellington at Newport"
08-11-1910 - Perfecto Barbosa - d. 8-17-1989
newscaster: KMAC San Antonio, Texas
08-11-1911 - Jerome Chodorow - NYC - d. 9-12-2004
screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-11-1913 - Edith Oliver - NYC - d. 2-23-1998
actor: "Crime Doctor"; "Philip Morris Playhouse"
08-11-1915 - Bernard "Buddy" Arnold - NYC - d. 3-30-2004
writer: "Your Hit Parade"
08-11-1915 - Berne Surrey - d. 8-25-1992
sound effects: "Suspense (Sorry, Wrong Number)"; "Whistler"; "Sam Spade"
08-11-1915 - Jean Parker - Deer Lodge, MT - d. 11-30-2005
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-11-1925 - Mike Douglas - Chicago, IL - d. 8-11-2006
singer: "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
08-11-1928 - Arlene Dahl - Minneapolis, MN
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre". Hollywood Stars on Stage"; "Philip Morris
Playhouse"
08-11-1939 - Jack Hobbs - Shawneetown, IL
disk jockey, news director, announcer: "Time Out"
August 11th deaths
01-24-1862 - Edith Wharton - NYC - d. 8-11-1937
author: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
04-01-1917 - "Wee" Bonnie Baker - Orange, TX - d. 8-11-1990
singer: "Your Hit Parade"
06-24-1904 - Phil Harris - Linton, IN - d. 8-11-1995
bandleader, singer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"
06-29-1914 - Rafael Kubelik - Bychory, Czech Republic - d. 8-11-1996
conductor: "Musicians Off Stage"
08-05-1918 - Tom Drake - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-11-1982
actor: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Proudly
We Hail"
08-11-1925 - Mike Douglas - Chicago, IL - d. 8-11-2006
singer: "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
09-08-1913 - Patricia Wilder - Macon, GA - d. 8-11-1995
actor: Honey Chile "Bob Hope Show"
12-05-1907 - Reid Kilpatrick - Michigan - d. 8-11-1983
host: "Quiz of Two Cities"
12-19-1924 - Rex Barney - Omaha, NE - d. 8-11-1997
baseball color man: "Game of the Day"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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