Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #119
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Date: 4/16/2005 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 119
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      War Of The Worlds Broadcast names of  [ Toby Dammit <dammitcentrale@earthli ]
      Johnny Dollar                         [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      LOC and OTR                           [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Paul Henning Obit                     [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
      Raymond Edward Johnson on The Goldbe  [ "Gil Miller" <gilmiller@[removed] ]
      Re: radio drama/sponsors              [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      4-15 births/.deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Deaths in March 2005                  [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Law and Order actor                   [ Clif Martin <martbart@[removed]; ]
      This Week with Walden Hughes          [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
      OSR on Today's Radio                  [ skallisjr@[removed] ]

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:33 +0000
    From: Toby Dammit <dammitcentrale@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  War Of The Worlds Broadcast names of
      Cast   URGENT

    Hello Mr. Smith,

    My name is Lawrence Mullins.

    I'm overseeing the packaging of a soundtrack to a film that is based loosely
    around the evening of the original War Of The Worlds broadcast in 1938. The
    production company licensed the broadcast for the film, as transmissions of
    the original performance were used in the film through old radios [removed]

    For the soundtrack, we've chosen to use a few excerpts from the original
    broadcast as well. Surprisingly from the team who license this piece of
    work, there is NO complete knowledge of who did what exactly, nor ANY true
    knowledge of the music used in the broadcast.

    So I've been conducting my own research, as it's a tradition with our label
    to be thorough with credits and historical research. Much to my further
    surprise, there's NO true documentation out there of this info anywhere
    online, in books or previously issued commercial releases of The War Of The
    Worlds! Outrageous.

    Along my way I discovered your incredible emails here:
    <[removed];

    In the musical excerpts we're using there are some announcer voices that
    step in and I would LOVE to credit all of these voices accurately and
    correctly.

    Here below are the excerpts and my best-guessed names.
    Any corrections, confirmations or suggestions will be welcomed and I would
    be happy to add you to our thank you list!

    1. After the Mercury Theatre opening music, there's an announcer saying:
    "Ladies and gentlemen the director of the Mercury Theatre and star of these
    broadcasts, Orson Welles" -
    I believe this person is Dan Seymour.

    2. After the fade out of the first tango piece "No More", there's an
    announcer saying: "Good evening ladies and gentleman - from the Meridian
    room in the Park Plaza Hotel in New York City, we bring you the music of
    Ramon Raquello and his orchestra. With a touch of the Spanish, Ramon
    Raquello leads off with "La Cumparsita" (mispronounced!) -
    I believe this person is William Alland.

    3. After the conclusion of "La Cumparsita", there is an announcer saying:
    "And now a tune that never loses favor; the ever popular "Stardust" -
    Raymond Raquello and his orchestra" -
    I believe this person is William Alland.

    4.  After the first piano interlude, there's a bulletin announcing the
    meteorite that crashed in New [removed] that, there's a 22 second
    instrumental swing dance number performed by "Bobby Millette" at the Hotel
    Martinet in Brooklyn.
    No where can I find any clue of the composer of this piece nor a title.
    Any ideas?
    (Of course I know it's really Herrmann & the CBS radio orchestra
    performing.)

    5. Following the description of the first tentacled creature that rose out
    of the meteor, an announcer says he'll be right back in a minute. Then
    there's a short piece of Chopin piano music. It's interrupted by an
    announcer saying: "We are bringing you an eyewitness account of what's
    happening on the Wilmuth farm Grover's Mill, New [removed] now return you
    to Carl Phillips at Grover's Mill." -
    I believe this person is Dan Seymour.

    6. After the report where the first man screams, there is a dramatic break
    of silence in the broadcast. An announcer comes on and says: "Ladies and
    gentleman due to circumstances beyond our control, we are unable to continue
    the broadcast from Grover's Mill. Evidently some difficulty with our field
    transmission. However, we will return to that point at our earliest
    [removed] continue now with our piano interlude" -
    I believe this person is Dan Seymour.

    7. After the description of the rising Martian on legs by the state
    militia's Captain Lansing (Kenny Delmar), there's an announcer who says:
    "Ladies and gentleman I have a grave announcement to make. Incredible as it
    may seem, both the observations of science and the evidence of our eyes,
    lead to the inescapable assumption that those strange beings who landed in
    the Jersey farmlands tonight are the vanguard of an invading army from the
    planet Mars" -
    I believe this person is Paul Stewart.

    Sincerely,
    Lawrence Mullins

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:15 +0000
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Johnny Dollar

    Like a lot of folks on this list, I'm a big fan of the five-part Yours
    Truly, Johnny Dollar shows starring Bob Bailey. I've listened to most
    of them--my wife and I are saving about 8 for future road trips--and
    I've just started going back and relistening to a bunch. Bob's closing
    words on the end of each episode--"Join us, won't you?" got me
    wondering about how popular the series actually was. While the shows
    are well-loved today, I've never met anybody who remembers listening to
    them at the time; nor are they ever mentioned on this list in that
    context. Does anybody know how successful they were at the time? Did
    people really manage to stay glued at the same time (what time was it
    broadcast, anyway?) for five consecutive days?

    In the recent discussion here on whether modern audio drama could find
    a place on contemporary radio, several people have mentioned that one
    challenge is people listen in their cars, and they rarely have 30
    minute commutes starting and stopping at the same time every day.
    Perhaps one of the few formats that would have a chance nowadays would
    be something like the five part YTJDs--short serial episodes, played
    during peak driving time, that would catch people's interest and leave
    them wanting to hear the next one. Two main drawbacks, of course, are
    a) convincing station managers to give up peak listening time to
    something besides news or music, and b) getting intelligent, catchy
    well-written stories that work well in serial format, are not too
    padded, but have interesting characterizations and plots. (In other
    words, something almost exactly like Johnny Dollar during the serial
    era!)

    Kermyt

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:40 +0000
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  LOC and OTR

    Paul Urbahns, in the Kentucky sticks, writes:

>     I am glad the Library of Congress is showing an interest in OTR, but it seems
>     like a lot of effort for the few people (relatively speaking) that can attend.
>     Now if the LOC had a weekly show on NPR that would actually benefit the
>     public.

    Both the Library of Congress (LOC) and the National Archives (NA) are
    super-cautious regarding anything in even the most remote area of copyright
    protection. And, of course, each year Congress and the courts push more
    material into the never-to-be-public-domain category. For their
    presentation on April 20th, LOC is borrowing audio sound programs (two air
    checks, actually) from NA. To justify this presentation, LOC is using their
    prevailing theory that a library patron on the premises can listen to
    anything in their archives, (or the NA's) as long as they don't make a
    copy. So, in effect, LOC is merely playing these shows for a group of
    individual patrons, at no charge to anyone, hence no royalty problems either.

    But for making [removed] an airing on NPR, fawgettttabbbout it! It
    ain't gonna happen in our lifetime.

    But persistent researchers with deep pockets can occasionally pry out of
    the LOC or NA some isolated items probably still under copyright. For
    example, ace OTR researcher Karl Schadow recently discovered at the LOC a
    15 minute air check of the last (1939) episode of "Howie Wing", a kids
    flying adventure show, previously thought to be a series with no surviving
    copies. To get a copy, Karl was directed to get permission in writing from
    NBC, who aired it, as well as CBS, who produced it. Assuming both network
    legal departments grant such, Karl could then have the 15 minute episode
    copied by [removed] $70! Stay [removed]

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL
    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:21:58 +0000
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Paul Henning Obit

    An obituary of old time radio writer Paul Henning, probably best remembered
    for Burns & Allen, from today's National Review follows.

    Apparently he also had success in television.

    RIP.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:22:17 +0000
    From: "Gil Miller" <gilmiller@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Raymond Edward Johnson on The Goldbergs?
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    I was recently listening to some Goldbergs episodes from 1942. Was that
    Raymond Edward Johnson playing young Dr. Chris Cater?
    Gil Miller
    Florida

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:34:21 -0400
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: radio drama/sponsors
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    In a message dated 4/14/05 8:18:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

     > 3.  Even if an adult audience could be garnered, sponsors don't want
     > them.  Since Geritol and Carter's Little Liver Pills were run out of
     > town, very few sponsors want the older listeners OTR would draw.  They
     > say we are too set in our ways to be much influenced by advertising.
     >

    Yeah but have you ever heard who sponsors right wing radio icons like Rush?
    I've heard ads for orthopedic mattresses, etc.  Not exactly "trendy" stuff
    like Bailey's or XBox.  I'm not saying OTR would attract those advertisers
    either, but these guys are on every day and not in heartbeating danger of
    losing
    their jobs *and* attract many of the Geritol advertisers of current day.

    Dixon

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:37:06 +0000
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-15 births/.deaths

    April 15th births

    04-15-1900 - Eddie Garr - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-3-1956
    actor: (Father of Teri Garr) "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
    04-15-1907 - Theodore Granick - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-21-1970
    moderator: "American Forum of the Air"
    04-15-1915 - Hans Conried - Baltimore, MD - d. 1-5-1982
    actor: Professor Kropotkin "My Friend Irma"; Schultz "Life with Luigi"

    04-15-1933 - Roy Clark - Meherrin, VA
    country/western singer: "Town and Country Time"

    April 15th deaths

    02-22-1926 - Kenneth Williams - Islington, England - d. 4-15-1988
    actor:  the Snide "Hancock's Half Hour"
    03-24-1910 - Richard Conte - Jersey City, NJ - d. 4-15-1975
    actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Hollywood
    Star Playhouse"
    04-01-1886 - Wallace Beery - Kansas City, MO - d. 4-15-1949
    host: "Shell Chateau"
    04-17-1918 - John Hess - Chicago, IL - d. 4-15-2004
    writer: "The Human Adventure"
    06-02-1909 - Martin Ashe - Bradford, IL - d. 4-15-1991
    actor: "Grand Central Station"
    06-04-1881 - Clara Blandick - Hong Kong (on a ship in harbor) - d.
    4-15-1962
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Campbell Playhouse"
    07-23-1920 - Christopher Lynch - County Limerick, Ireland - d.
    4-15-1994
    singer: "Voice of Firestone"
    09-18-1905 - Greta Garbo - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 4-15-1990
    actress: "Kate Smith Show"
    09-22-1915 - Arthur Lowe - Hayfield, Derbyshire, England - d.
    4-15-1982
    actor: Captain George Mainwaring "Dad's Army"
    12-13-1939 - Moe Keale - Niihau, HI - d. 4-15-2002
    local disc jockey
    12-15-1926 - Rose Maddox - Boaz, AL - d. 4-15-1998
    country singer: "Faron Young Show"; "Country Hoedown"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:37:15 +0000
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Deaths in March 2005

    04-05-1911 - Martin Denny - NYC - d. 3-2-2005
    orchestra leader: Live radio show for Alaskan Air Force Command Radio
    10-27-1918 - Teresa Wright - NYC - d. 3-6-2005
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    06-10-1921 - Chuck Thompson - Palmer, MA - d. 3-6-2005
    sportscaster: Baltimore Orioles, Baltimore Colts
    07-11-1943 - Tommy Vance - Oxford, England - d. 3-6-1005
    presenter: Radio 1
    02-16-1904 - George F. Kennan - Milwaukee, WI - d. 3-17-2005
    post world war two diplomat: "Meet the Press"
    05-05-19xx - Ted Brown - d. 3-20-2005
    announcer: "Magic Carpet"; "Hobby Lobby"; "Scout About Town"
    09-15-1924 - Bobby Short - Danville, IL - d. 3-21-2005
    singer: Sang on Chicago radio at beginning of his career
    09-16-1911 - Paul Henning - Independence, MO - d. 3-25-2005
    writer: "Burns and Allen"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:38:08 +0000
    From: Clif Martin <martbart@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Law and Order actor

    In a "Law and Order" episode earlier this week, a distinguished older
    fellow with a most distinctive voice and delivery played the role of
    crooked attorney Fogg.  I missed the opening credits, but he has to be
    either an old time radio actor or from the movies when voices
    mattered.   Anybody here know who who is? While thinking about TV actors,
    is Allison Janney of  "West Wing" related to Leon?

    Janman30

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:38:38 +0000
    From: BryanH362@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This Week with Walden Hughes

    Heard live via the internet at [removed] at 7:30 pm  PDT Friday ,
    Saturday and Sunday .

    Saturday 4-16-05

    A.  we will start playing  on the Saturday night show the series called
    "Radio'S  Golden Age"  starting with the first show with guest comedy writer
    Stanley Quinn

    B.  to celebrate 70th  birthday of Fibber Mc Gee and Molly we will play one of
    Frank Bresee's  interviews  with Jim Jordan

    C.  two of Bing Crosby shows

    D.  John Dunning interview with NBC news broadcaster John McVane

    E.  OTR like One Man Family, quiz Kids, Information Please, ect

    Sunday 4-17-05

    A.  Laura Leff presents  Jack Benny of 4-1-45

    B.  Mike Biel

    C.  OTR like Phil Harris and Alice Faye, Are Miss Brooks, Lux Radio Theater,
    Great Gildersleeve, and Fibber McGee and Molly

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:39:03 +0000
    From: skallisjr@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OSR on Today's Radio

    Gary Dixon, speaking of current radio programming, asks,

     > Here's the really big question.  Could a radio station program a half
     > hour show in drive time (5-9AM and 3-7pm)  and get listeners along with
     > advertisers.  The answer is YES!  Is there a broadcaster (or broadcast
     > group) brave enough to try?  The answer:  When the price of gas rolls
     > back to a $[removed] a gallon!

    Old-Style Radio (OSR) would be perfect for drive time.  However, for
    maximum effectiveness, one has to factor in the "time compression" effect
    of dramatic radio.  One can cover nearly twice the information content on
    radio than on television or film.  The ideal format, IMHO, would be
    15-minute serial for each show.  Serial format would induce people to
    tune in for the next episode.  It also allows for plot complexities
    unavailable in a half-hour show.

    Does that mean that there's no place for a half-hour show?  No.  But I'm
    considering the popularity in drive time.  A continuing story that spans
    at least a week would work better for those stuck in traffic each way,
    giving listeners something to look forward to, and not miss anything.

    I suspect that two 15-minute serials per half-hour would work better than
    one half-hour complete show in the same time slot.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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