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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 459

Table Of Contents: 

	 Henry Morgan
	 Re: FOUND SHOWS/NEW?
	 Digital Enhancements
	 Pepsi and Kolynos
	 "The Cold Equations"
	 Re: Nostalgia TV
	 Cassette Decks - Suggestion
	 Sound Effects
	 Re: ZBS
	 Re: Plugola and Shuggola
	 Fibber the Seagull

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:36:34 -0600
From: "Marvin R. Bensman" <bensmanm@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Henry Morgan
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>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:21:52 -0500 (EST)
>From: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed]>
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>        At the FOTR convention last month I picked up a lot of old reels
>from Jack Shug(sp?) and one which was mislabeled had a few odd items on it.
>Including Henry Morgan guest hosting for Brad Crandall on WNBC in 1965 or
>1966. The car commercials on the program are for the "new 1966 models".
>        Also included were a few 1959 Henry Morgan shows from WBAI. Anyone
>have more information on this show? Jay Hickerson's book does not mention a
>show by Morgan after 1950. I have three, but no specific dates or anything
>else was listed.

We have some twelve quarter hour shows of Henry's from 1941 in our collection.

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:45:28 4
From: "edcarr" <edcarr@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: FOUND SHOWS/NEW?
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i have from disc 5 shows of, the summer revival of lights out, 
8 shows were done, i know 3 were in circulation, have the others 
been found before this?
#02-the coffin in studio b--07/13/46
#03-the haunted cell--------07/20/46
#05-the revenge of india-08/03/46
#06-the ghost on the newsreel negative-08/10/46
#08-the signal man-------08/24/46

new-sub/ the falcon and kraft come to mind for interwoven comm.
steve, why do you do this, i've now spent 35 minutes looking at 
my shelves trying to figure out what was interwoven, nuts.
now i'am haveing 2nd thoughts on kraft. 45 min                                   
edcarr@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:47:41 -0400
From: Stephen Moore <moores@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Digital Enhancements
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Is anyone using their PC to do digital enhancements to some of their
radio programs?

I see a program (Sound Forge) that claims to do vinal restoration as
well as some other tricks that might restore the listenability of OTR
tapes.

Is this now possible with the PC and affordable software, or should I
save my money to purchase more programs, rather than trying to enhance
what I already have?

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 96 10:50 PST
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Pepsi and Kolynos
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"What struck me as extraordinarily unusual was a scene that had David 
Harding's assistant ask his boss if he wanted a bite to eat.  "No, thanks, 
Peters, but what I could use is an ice-cold Pepsi."  Much clanking of 
bottles and glasses, and maybe even a sigh of satisfaction, then on with 
the show.

"I know that in radio comedies there was often a strong overlapping between 
show and commercial -- did I forget to mention who the sponsor of 
COUNTERSPY was at the time? -- but this is the first time I've noticed 
anything like this in a mystery or adventure drama. "

Does anyone remember when the big mish-mash called "Payola" came along
against mentioning specific products in a radio show?  I remember that it
was common practice to mention a product, and the company would send a case
of it (or whatever) to the producer, and others, for the mention.  A friend
of ours mentioned Campbell's Mushroom Soup and got enough cases of soup to
last him all his life - except that in a short time he was sick of it!  This
Pepsi incident may have predated the Payola regulations against that kind of
advertising."

Kolynos?  Yes, it was a toothpaste.

Lois Culver

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:37:50 -0500
From: Bigkids@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "The Cold Equations"
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Actually, "The Cold Equations" was originally a *story*, you know, like
*words*, lots of *words,* that appeared in the old *Astounding Science
Fiction.* From there it went into several anthologies, thence to radio, and
now (apparently) to the SciFi Channel.

My recollection is that the author was Tom Godwin, a science fiction writer
with an otherwise fairly undistinguished career. But that one story was/is of
course a classic.

Don't have the original publication date handy, although I could track it
down and let you know, if anybody cares.

Dick Lupoff

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:50:04 -0500
From: "Michael A. Carraher" <michaelcarraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Nostalgia TV
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Most of the examples you give are old TV but not true Old Time TV.  I'd
define OTTV as pre-1965-1966 season (when the networks started
broadcasting all prime time shows in color).  Nick at Nite has moved
away from Classic B&W OTTV to 70's TV.  Except for a few exceptions on
Saturday and Sunday afternoon, TVLand follows suit.
BTW:  TVLand runs the hour-long color episodes of Gunsmoke (wth
Festus).  OTTV would include the half-hour B&W episodes with Chester and
TVLand does not show these episodes.  Likewise Nick at Nite ran the late
60's color episodes of Dragnet (with Bill Gannon), not the OTTV B&W
pre-miranda episodes (with Frank Smith).  Early episodes of these and
other shows are much more relevant to OTR because those based on OTR
shows were adapated from OTR original scripts and many OTTV shows not
adapted from OTR made use of OTR acting talent ([removed] OTTV B&W episodes
of Andy Griffith -- with Barney Phife -- which included Howard MacNear
and Parley Baer in their cast).  Classic OTTV was shot on a shoe string
by today's standards and was often radio with close-ups.  Post 65 TV was
more like B movies.

Dick Lochte <dlock@[removed]> wrote:

> At the risk of continuing a non OTR subjet, I've been surprised by all
> the complaints about an absence of OTTV on the tube.  What about TV
> LAND?  It's an old TV feast. Mannix. Cannon. Burke's Law. Nero Wolfe.
> Honey West. Plus old half-hour b/w Gunsmokes. Dick Powell Theater.  Sam
> Peckinpah's The Westerner. Have Gun.  Trackdown. Shane. Ed Sullivan.  
> For a while they were showing The Rogues. They've also come up with
> "specials," like a series of James Dean shows from the 50s. Nothing else
> on tv or cable quite compares.
> 
> Dick Lochte

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:19:52 -0800
From: John Cunningham <johnc@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Decks - Suggestion
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In the past I, too, held SONY equipment in great regard.  

However a couple of years ago I bought a SONY deck (and not a 
super cheapie either) and within just a year or so I had a major problem 
due to the fact that the mechanism (rods) that run between the switches
and the actual spring-driven head assembly were made of plastic
(PLASTIC for a pressure driven mechanism!!!) and quickly broke.

I'm afraid that in the rush to compete with the off-brands SONY has
compromised the quality for which they were once renowned.  

I appreciate Matt's thoughtful posting recommending SONY, but I just 
felt you should be aware of this experience.  One can, of course, have a 
bad experience with any brand of equipment, but I just couldn't believe 
that SONY would use little cheap PLASTIC rods as drivers for function 
switches which have constant pressure applied to them when in use!

Take this experience as you will, for whatever it's worth, but I will
not be buying SONY consumer electronics anymore.

(I've heard good things about the JVC decks in the $200 price range, but
I don't know anyone who's had one long enough to testify as to length
of life)

Happy Listening!
John

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:02:30 -0800
From: John Cunningham <johnc@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sound Effects
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I enjoyed Ken Greenwald's posting about the SFX on DRAGNET, etc.
I knew that THREE SKELETON KEY was renowned for it's effects, but never
knew that they were done with cork!

Ken, can you give us the names of the DRAGNET episodes you referred
to?  And are these particular episodes available?

Happy Listening!
John

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:38:49 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
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On Mon, 25 Nov 1996 Jack Mann wrote:

> I got a catalog from the ZBS Foundation which has tapes featuring Jack 
Flanders. They sound interesting and I was wondering if anyone had heard 
> any of his adventures. Are these tapes worth the very expensive price?
> 
	First off, very expensive price compared to what?  OTR pirate 
dealers who all try to lowball each other for material that costs them 
next to nothing? (Calm down - I include myself in this group, except for 
the lowballing part ;->) Or working audio artists who put their life-blood 
into producing state of the art aural tapestries, with tiny stipends from 
NPR as seed money?  Do these tapes cost any more than the latest Barry 
Manilow release?  I doubt it.  
	I have broadcast nearly every ZBS production over the last many 
years.  While some are more to my taste than others (the opera was a bit 
much for me), they are always greeted eagerly by a core group of listeners.
You should at least sample a few to see if the blend of humor and adventure
is your cup of tea.  The production is always first-rate, and in the more 
recent ones, the action is written around field recordings from exotic
locales around the world.  
	New productions from ZBS are stalled for lack of adequate funding.
Their direct sales are helping to finance past and future productions, and
if we want to see new radio drama on the air, however little of it there 
may be, these are the kinds of projects that should be supported.  -Max 

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:28:38 -0500 (EST)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Plugola and Shuggola
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On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 various folks wrote:

> From: "Steve Lewis, CCSU" 
> I know that in radio comedies there was often a strong overlapping between 
> show and commercial -- did I forget to mention who the sponsor of 
> COUNTERSPY was at the time? -- but this is the first time I've noticed 
> anything like this in a mystery or adventure drama.  
> Can anyone else recall something like this happening?  Did Sam Spade use 
> Wildroot?  Did Joe Friday ever smoke Fatimas (or Chesterfields)?  Did Mr. 
> Keen use Kolynos?
	How about Doctor Watson offering the announcer and listeners a fine cup 
of G Washington coffee?  (And later Petri wine).  Does "Mary" (not her real 
name) trying to convince host Raymond (Inner Sanctum) to try Lipton Tea count?
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>         At the FOTR convention last month I picked up a lot of old reels
> from Jack Shug(sp?) and one which was mislabeled had a few odd items on it.
	Besides cockroach droppings?  ;->  And it's Shugg!

> Including Henry Morgan guest hosting for Brad Crandall on WNBC in 1965 or
> 1966.   Also included were a few 1959 Henry Morgan shows from WBAI. Anyone
> have more information on this show? Jay Hickerson's book does not mention a
> show by Morgan after 1950. I have three, but no specific dates or anything
> else was listed.
	Morgan continued off and on in radio. It's not surprising that he 
was called upon to do fill-in work.  He lived in NYC (and died here, too).
	The WBAI show was on twice a week, by tape, recorded in Morgan's 
home in Germantown (the east 60s).  This was the year prior to Louis 
Schweitzer giving his little FM station to the Pacifica Foundation.           
I suspect that Morgan continued for a time after that happened in January,
1960.  I once spotted a tape at the station from the early 1963 which was a 
reunion of his [removed] radio cast (Minerva Pious, Art Carney, etc). I sure
wish I had held on to it - it has since disappeared.
	Morgan's last regular NY show was (I believe) on WOR, Saturday 
afternoons, in the early to mid 80s, with his wife. Losts of book reviews 
and chat, not the old acerbic Henry we knew and loved.
	There seem to be anywhere from 6 to 12 of the WBAI 1959 shows, 
although some are in pretty poor sound.  Someday I'll get around to 
compiling them.  Most are not dated.

> Another item on this reel was a parody called THIS HERE IS YOUR LIFE
> SHERLOCK HOLMES featuring Daws Butler and Ben Wright. The writing on the
> card was very messy, does anyone have a date or more detailed information on
> this program?
>         
	There was a series of about eight Holmes parodies done at WBAI 
in the 80s, and I believe Daws Butler was involved in some of them.  
They were produced by Joe Bevilacqua, who now works at WNYC.  Don't know if 
that's what you have, though.
		
	-Max Schmid, High atop the Empire State Building

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:38:30 EST
From: jjyellen@[removed] (James J Yellen)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fibber the Seagull
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

My family was watching the Disney movie "The Rescuers" tonight and I
noticed a familiar voice. It was Jim Jordan doing the voice of Orville
the seagull. I didn't get to see the credits to verify it, but I'm sure
that was him.

Is anyone familair with this and can verify that my ears aren't deceiving
me?

Jim Yellen 



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