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Date: 1/8/2005 10:19 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 8
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Elizabeth Peabody                     [ "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@veri ]
      Cinnamon Bear                         [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
      Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen                [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Beguine/Lehrer/TW3                    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      This week in radio history 9-15 Janu  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      1-9 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Pepto-Bismol                          [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      re: Mairzy Doats                      [ "Michael Guccione" <jetbonami@hotma ]
      Pronunciation Trivia                  [ kk6sj@[removed] ]

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    Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:16:42 -0500
    From: "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Elizabeth Peabody

    I happened to be in the right place at the right time last Sunday and heard
    a broadcast of a "Lum 'n' Abner" show dated 1/1/45.  It had to do with
    eating a New Year's dinner at Abner's house.  At the Ebnd of the show,
    Elizabeth called Lum, Grandpappy Spears, Ulysses Simpson, and Abner to the
    table.  They had been complaining about how hungry they were, but just as
    dinner was served, the guys went over to a neighbor's house to look at a new
    set of wagokn wheels.

    If you should want to hear this show, go to [removed] and click the liink
    to kkthe big broadcast.  Check the schedule for 1/2/05.

    Buck Saunders

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 01:22:52 -0500
    From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cinnamon Bear
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    Hello -- I know the Cinnamon Bear ran on WGN Chicago several years in a row,
    mid-1940s from memory.  I remember they knocked off the network "Hop Harrigan"
    for the Bear.   I much preferred the action of Hop machine-gunning Nazis out
    of the air to the gentle story-telling of the Bear.
    Sorry, folks.  As a kid I liked red meat.  I also thought the Lone Ranger and
    Tom Mix should try shooting some of those bad guys dead, instead of just
    shooting the guns out of their hands -- a feat whose practicality I questioned
    even at an early age.
        I did listen to the Cinnamon Bear.   I tried turning over to Terry and the
    Pirates which was opposite the spot usually occupied by Hop, but I couldn't
    get too interested in that.   I wound up liking the children's story, but it
    was like a ten year old listening to a fairy tale told to a five year old. It
    was sweet and cute, but I was waiting for the machine guns to start chattering
    again.
        -- Jim Harmon

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:42:28 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen

>     Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:51:09 -0500
>     From: "Kevin O'Donnell" <k_odonnell1@[removed];

>     "Bei mir bist du schoen" was composed by Sholom Secunda for a Yiddish
>     musical that opened and closed in a single season.

    And as such, it shouldn't have a German spelling.  Although Yiddish is generally written with
    the Hebrew alphabet, a standard system of phonetic Roman transliteration exists, under
    which the title should be spelled "Bai Mir Bistu Shein."

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    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:43:32 -0500
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Beguine/Lehrer/TW3
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    Hi Gang:

    My pal Bobb Lynes and several others wrote about the extremess to which
    clueless, latter-day newsreaders  mangled
    the pronunciation of the recently deceased Artie Shaw's signature hit "Begin
    the Beguine." This reminded me of
    song satirist Tom Lehrer's 1966 LP "That Was the Year That Was,"  which
    re-capped in song some of the big--
    and not so big--stories of 1965, including a paean to an obituary for one
    certain Alma Schindler Mahler Gropius
    Werfel, a woman who was at various times married to famed composer Gustav
    Mahler, Bahaus architect Walter
    Gropius, and novelist Franz Werfel.

    One of the most memoable lyrics for Lehrer's song "Alma" was:

    "Her lovers were many and varied
    Fron the day she began her beguine,
    There were three famous ones whom she married
    ..And God knows how many between!"

    BTW, since I don't speak French, what the heck is a "beguine" anyway?!

    Speaking of Prof. Lehrer--and this may seem like a hokey question--did he ever
    have any connexion to OTR?
    His early self-released 10-inch LPs came out in the early 1950s while OTR was
    still with us, but were his iconoclastic
    --and oft-times tasteless--songs deemed to extreme for radio play?

    I'd like to think that some of the great wits of the radio at the time such as
    Henry Morgan or Steve Allen might have
    talked Lehrer up during his cult-following days. Since Lehrer was based, for
    the most part at the time, at Harvard,
    might've Boston-based  Bob & Ray championed him?

    Warning! I'm going tangentially  off-topic! I see "ABC News PrimeTime Live"
    has quietly dropped its "That Was the
    Week That Was" revival segment. I've been watching it for the past 2-1/2
    months & the ingenue singer in the black
    cocktail dress  (I never caught her name)  seems to have been phased
    out--except for a brief return for a "Prime Time
    Live" year-end special. I guess that "Jeers" the new TW3 segment received from
    everybody's favourite coffee-mug
    coaster "TV Guide" & its idiotic "Cheers 'n" Jeers" column  must've sealed its
    fate. I'd like to think  the entire
    segment  was "too hip for the room."

    Wasn't it playwright George S. Kaufman who said "satire closes on Saturday
    night."?

    Best always from the ether!

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:57:16 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This week in radio history 9-15 January

     From Those Were The Days --

    1/10

    1943 - The quiz show, The Better Half, was first heard on Mutual this
    day. The program brought four married couples to compete in stunts
    involving traditional concepts of 'manhood' and 'womanhood'.

    1/11

    1947 - Amazing Mr. Malone (aka Murder and Mr. Malone) starring Frank
    Lovejoy, debuted on ABC.

    1/12

    1926 - Sam 'n' Henry debuted on WGN in Chicago, Illinois.  The show's
    name was changed to Amos 'n' Andy with the voices of its creators,
    Freeman Gosden and Charles Correll.

    1932 - Ed Sullivan joined CBS in a program of gossip and interviews.

    1/13

    1910 - Enrico Caruso and Emmy Destinn were heard via a telephone
    transmitter; rigged by DeForest Radio-Telephone Company to broadcast
    from the Metropolitan Opera House in New York City.

    1/14

    1927 - Jack Benny married Sadye Marks.

    1939 - The program, Honolulu Bound, was heard on CBS. Phil Baker and the
    Andrews Sisters were featured on the program.

    1/15

    1945 - Art Linkletter starred on the CBS debut of House Party. The show
    continued on the air for 22 years, including a long stint on CBS t--------n.

    Joe

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:57:26 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-9 births/deaths

    January 9th births

    01-09-1898 - Dame Gracie Fields - Rochdale, Lancashire, England - d. 9-27-1979
    comedienne, singer: "Gracie Fields Victory Show"; "Gracie Fields Show"
    01-09-1901 - Chic Young - Chicago, IL - d. 3-14-1973
    cartoonist: Creator of Blondie Bumstead nee Boopadoop
    01-09-1913 - Richard Nixon - Yorba Linda, CA - d. 4-22-1994
    [removed] president: "Image Minorities"; "Kennedy-Nixon Debates"
    01-09-1914 - Gypsy Rose Lee - Seattle, WA - d. 4-26-1970
    exotic dancer: "Advs. of Ellery Queen"; "What Makes You Tick?"
    01-09-1915 - Anita Louise - NYC - d. 4-25-1970
    actress: "Stars Over Hollywood"
    01-09-1916 - Fernando Lamas - Buenos Aires, Argentina - d. 10-8-1982
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"

    January 9th deaths

    01-12-1894 - Tommy Handley - Liverpool, England - d. 1-9-1949
    comedian: "Hancock's Half Hour"
    10-02-1893 - Roy Shield - Waseca, MN - d. 1-9-1962
    conductor: "Design for Listening"; "RCA Victor Show"; "Eternal Light"
    10-30-1896 - Bill Terry - Atlanta, GA - d. 1-9-1989
    sportscaster: WAGA Atlanta
    11-21-1919 - Steve Brodie - El Dorado, KS - d. 1-9-1992
    actor: Mike Mallory "Mike Mallory"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:16:26 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Pepto-Bismol

    Hi Everybody
    Walt B. posted

>     I remember several shows which were sponsored by Pepto-Bismol.
>     However the announcer ALways pronounced it "Pepto-BEZZ-MALL"

    I have an 89 yr old beloved neighbor lady who has never let her
    difficulty with words stand in the way of a sentence. She simply
    substitutes a similar sounding word in place of the one giving her trouble.
    Alice calls it Pepto-Dismal. But then there was the time that she
    proudly told us of her grandaughter graduating from high school. She
    said that she was the "Queen Victoria" of her high school class.

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:17:29 -0500
    From: "Michael Guccione" <jetbonami@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Mairzy Doats

>     ..Sing "Mares eat oats
>     And does eat oats
>     And little lambs eat ivy"..

    Thanks for the Epiphany Mr. Girard, my wife's mother used to sing her that
    tune when she was a little kid and it spilled over into our marriage,
    neither of us knew what the words meant until now.

    Another great mystery is, 'sala cadoola metcha caboola bibbity bobbity boo',
    but I think this one is beyond definition. Wish current radio programming
    could put some of the whimsy back that it once had.

    Michael G

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    Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:09:07 -0500
    From: kk6sj@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR)
    Subject:  Pronunciation Trivia

    Two quick comments:
    In Vol. #5 James Yellen commented on "Mares eat oats . . ." I agree that is
    one
    of the best play on words going, but my (now aging) memory was that the next
    phrase was "does eat oats. . ." (like Bambi's mom), not "goats eat oats . . ."
    Does anyone have access to printed lyrics to resolve the problem?

    The other has to do with "Bei mir bist du schoen." The original German
    spelling
    of "schoen" is S-C-H-O umlaut-N. Since we do not have umlauts in English, we
    have both slightly different spellings and pronunciations. Also (real trivia)
    the "Du
    bist" form is personal, generally limited to family and friends, it is not
    formal.

    Cliff Olsen

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