Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #241
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Date: 8/10/2005 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 241
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Who's on first                        [ mgreenb300@[removed] ]
      Answer to trivia question             [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Doc Adams' First Name                 [ "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@worldn ]
      "That's a Joke, Son!"                 [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      OTR PDQ on DVD                        [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      radio characters' names change        [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      Don Knotts [removed]                [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Re: Hybrid CD-MP3 Player              [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      info request                          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Doc Adams birth name                  [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Doc Adams real name                   [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
      Lum and Abner - History of Party Lin  [ "Austotr" <austotr@[removed]; ]
      8-10 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Another OTR Cryptoquote               [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Doc Adams' Real Name                  [ "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@worldn ]
      Chester                               [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:56:12 -0400
    From: mgreenb300@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Who's on first

    doesn't matter how many times I hear Abbott and Costello's "Who's on First" I
    laugh again. But no matter how well they performed the skit, someone had to
    write it. Does anyone know who wrote the skit?

    Mort G.

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:56:51 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Answer to trivia question

    Quote taken from "Gunsmoke A Complete History" by SuzAnne Barabas and
    Gabor Barabas.

    "Calavade." January 31, 1953. Written by Les Crutchfield. Guest cast:
    Larry Dobkin, Lou Krugman, Paul DuBov, Vivi Janiss.

    Ed Hunter a sheriff from Virginia rides into town. He has in his
    possession a warrant for the arrest of Calvin Moore, who has finally
    been traced to Dodge. Moore killed a wealthy man, Roger Beauregard,
    17 years ago in a duel over a young woman. When Hunter tells Matt
    that Moore was a physician and shows him the man's photograph, Matt
    is caught in an ethical dilemma. The photograph is of Doc Adams as a
    young man. The dumbfounded Matt denies ever having seen the wanted
    man. When Matt confronts Doc with the tale, his friend's secret past
    unfolds. Doc shot Beauregard in a fair duel but ran because he was an
    outsider and a Yankee. The young girl fled after him, and they were
    married in St. Louis. She died two months later of typhus. Matt
    realizes that despite Doc's innocence, the resolute sheriff from
    Richmond is bent on finding his man.

    Therefore Doc Adams was born with the name of Calvin Moore.

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:57:15 -0400
    From: "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Doc Adams' First Name

>     Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 18:26:06 -0400
>     From: "Scott Rogers" <srogerssprint5@[removed];
>     To: <[removed]@[removed];
>     Subject:  Doc Adams

>     Doc Adams of Gunsmoke name was Galen Adams. Here is another one: What was
>     Festus' mules name?
>     -Scott

        As Anthony Tollin mentioned, the first name of radio's Doc Adams is
    Charles.

        There is additional proof.  In the January 31, 1953 episode,
    "Cavalcade",  radio's Doc Adams, Howard McNear, says, ". . . I changed my
    name to Charles Adams. . . ."

    Signing off for now,

    Stewart

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:03:53 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "That's a Joke, Son!"
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    One of my favourite OTR abbreviations is the vastly underutilised
    "TPGJBTATWIHI,"
    which stands for the catch-phrase "That's pretty good, Johnnie, but that ain't
    the
    way I heerd it," as uttered by FM&M's "the Old-Timer."

    In my original posting in which I trashed the poetic talents (or lack thereof)
    of
    Edgar Guest, I mused "Who bestowed such a lofty title like "poet laureate" on
    this
    notorious newspaper doggerelist?" to which Dixon Hayes rejoindered:

>     Well, Edgar Guest *did* have a bedroom named after him at Fibber McGee and

    Molly's house, at least according to [removed]

    I'm not familiar with the "Fibber" episode to which Dixon refers, but I'd be
    willing to
    hazard that the McGees' bedroon wasn't named for him  not because of his
    poetic
    proficiency, but rather because said bedroom was [removed] ROOM!

    I also imagine that the view from this bedroom's window offered a "wistful
    vista."

    Yours in the ether,

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 21:53:14 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR PDQ on DVD

    Recently my son gave me a batch of el-cheapo DVDs he found in a
    discount store that he thought I'd like since they were all "old
    stuff."  One in particular delighted me; it's a DVD containing four TV
    crime shows under the title
    "TV Compilations: Law & Justice."  The contents are four half-hour
    shows: Dragnet, Public Defender, Racket Squad, and Gangbusters.  All
    four have a strong OTR tie, probably unknown to the tgeen-aged graphics
    artist who designed the package since he has the "Racket Squad" caption
    on the "Gangbusters" photo and vice versa.

    "Dragnet" always had plenty of OTR actors whom Jack Webb hired. The
    episode on this DVD, called "The Big Seventeen," from November 1952 has
    Herb Ellis playing Webb's partner and Forrest Lewis in a supporting
    role.

    Reed Hadley I well recall as the original voice of "Red Ryder", a role
    he would play for almost 3 years in the 1940s. But I had forgotten two
    TV shows from the mid 50s in which he played the lead, examples of
    which appear on this DVD.  Hadley is Captain Jim Braddock in "Racket
    Squad" (1951 to 1953) and also Bart Matthews in "Public Defender,"
    which aired from 1954 to 1955. Both were produced on modest budgets and
    aired on CBS.

    "Gangbusters" despite its long radio tenure, lasted only a short time
    on TV, running only from March to December 1952. It retained its famous
    opening and closing from the radio version, merely adding stock footage
    to the audio. Interestingly enough, I had always pictured criminals in
    a chain gang when I heard radio's marching feet, but the television
    show used police cadets marching in cadence.

    I can't tell my fellow Digesters how to find this DVD since it contains
    no address, phone number, or web site, just two words I presume were
    the production company: PC Treasures.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 21:53:28 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  radio characters' names change

    In 1972 I talked to a disk jockey in Madison, Wisconsin.  He told me that
    his radio name was copyrighted by the station so that he couldn't go to
    another station and perhaps take his fans with him.

    Mark Kinsler

    512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:08:31 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Don Knotts [removed]

    Don Knotts, who was to be honored in his hometown of Morgantown, WV
    this weekend, August 12-14, will be unable to attend because of poor
    health.  His doctors in Beverly Hills, CA would not authorize the trip
    for the aging actor. Therefore the scheduled parade and film-fest will
    not be held.

    Knotts got his start in radio in his mid-20s, when he came out of
    military service, and stepped into the role of an old geezer,Windy
    Wales, on the popular juvenile western, "Bobby Benson and the b-Bar-B
    Riders."

    Morgantown officials announced that in the absence of Knotts, they
    would still go ahead with the unveiling of a sidewalk star in his honor
    and hold the first meeting of the Don Knotts Fan Club.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:08:56 -0400
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Hybrid CD-MP3 Player

    On 8/8/2005, Jim Burns wrote:

>     Don, on this Walmart unit, can you pick the "shows"  you want to hear--are
>     they seperated--the same way you could automatically pick, or advance to,
>     say the different tracks, on a CD (the third song, for [removed])

    It has a programming function that I would never use. You can select up to
    20 tracks or titles and play them in the sequence you choose them. There is
    also some consideration for "albums" which I take to be what we might call
    folders or subdirectories. There is a random function, repeat function and
    some other functions. There are skip buttons forward and backward and a
    skip forward 10 tracks button. I believe these are all common features.

    The speakers are built in and cannot be separated and the unit would not
    measure up to a shelf Hi-Fi type piece of equipment for sound quality.

    It's biggest shortcomings are the lack of a remote, you can't turn off the
    backlit display and it does not remember where you turned it off. I believe
    it sounds better than the RCA boombox I bought my mother a couple of years
    ago for twice that price, but the RCA unit has a wireless remote control.

    The Walmart (Durabrand) predecessor was a genuine battery hog and caused me
    to buy a 110 volt car adapter (which costs less than four sets of batteries).

    But this radio is only $30 and it sounds better than the average table
    radio. I doubt you can get anything that plays MP3 CDs elsewhere at that price.

    Don

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:09:26 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  info request

    A friend of mine has asked for info on old radio shows."

    "I am trying to find out of Erle Cox's novel _Out of the Silence_ was ever
    broadcast in the US
    on radio or TV.  A local research librarian in her seventies remembers
    hearing the story but
    isn't certain whether it was early TV or radio.  The book was turned into a
    radio serial in
    Australia and may hve been broadcast in England.

    "I've already checked out Dimension X and X Minus One.  Would you have any
    idea?"

    I have no idea.  Does anyone?

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:49:35 -0400
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Doc Adams birth name

    Anthony Tollin and others say it was Charles Adams. This is really weird:
    somewhere in the back of my mind I remember he was using a false name and
    that his real name was something like Calvin Moore. Who on earth am I
    thinking of??????????

    Barbara

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 02:12:00 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:01:24 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Doc Adams real name

    Hello, I would also submit that Doc's real name was Calvin Moore, due to an
    episode where he'd left some town after needing to kill someone. I have this
    as 31 January, 1953, titled Cavalcade, though I suspect that's the wrong
    title, since it didn't have much to do with riding horses.
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:02:09 -0400
    From: "Austotr" <austotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lum and Abner - History of Party Lines

>     As a child there were only party lines because the telephone company was
>     owned by a group of local farmers and each was
>     responsible for the poles and wire on his farm.

    The last Party Line Exchange closed in Australia about 15 years ago.  I
    experienced my first contact with it when visiting my soon-to-be (at the
    time) wife's family in Western Queensland about 26 years ago.  My Father in
    Law tells a good story of when mustering cattle in scrub he found the party
    line broken.

    Using his fencing gear he joined the wire and as he put tension on the wire
    it raised back up in the air.  For the last strain he was standing on his
    horse.  Some part of the gear must have been touching the horse when someone
    decided to make a call.  The resulting charge was felt not only by my Father
    In Law, but by the horse.  The horse took off for safer pastures and my
    Father In Law didn't.  It was probably a good thing nobody was in earshot :)
    He laughs about it now, but I have it on good authority he wasn't laughing
    at the time.

    Ian Grieve

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:02:17 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  8-10 births/deaths

    August 10th births

    08-10-1874 - Herbert Hoover - West Branch, IA - d. 10-20-1964
    [removed] president: "The People's Platform"
    08-10-1887 - Hugh Herbert - Binghamton, NY - d. 3-12-1952
    actor: Pop "That's My Pop"; "Rudy Vallee Hour"; "Family Theatre"
    08-10-1895 - Harry Richman - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-3-1972
    singer, dancer, actor: "Harry Richman Dodge Program"; "Chase and Sanborn Hour"
    08-10-1896 - Walter Lang - Memphis, TN - d. 2-7-1972
    film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    08-10-1899 - Jack Haley - Boston, MA - d. 6-6-1979
    comedian: "Log Cabin"; "Wonder Show"; "Sealtest Village Store"
    08-10-1902 - Curt Siodmak - Dresden, Saxony, Germany - d. 9-2-2000
    film writer: "Suspense"
    08-10-1902 - Louise Massey - Midland, TX - d. 6-20-1983
    singer: (Louise Massey and the Westerners) "National Barn Dance"; "Show Boat"
    08-10-1902 - Venezuela Jones - d. 6-22-1995
    actress: Susie Robinson "Our Gal Sunday"
    08-10-1908 - Jane Pickens - Macon, GA - d. 2-21-1992
    singer: (Pickens Sisters) "Gulf Headliners"; "Evening in Paris"; "Jane
    Pickens Show"
    08-10-1910 - Roy Ringwald - d. 7-11-1995
    singer: "The Fred Waring Show"
    08-10-1910 - Sigmund Miller - d. 8-5-1998
    writer: "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"
    08-10-1913 - Noah Beery, Jr. - New York City, NY - d. 11-1-1994
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    08-10-1914 - Jeff Corey - New York City, NY - d. 8-16-2002
    actor: "Nightbeat"; "Escape"; "NBC Presents: Short Story"
    08-10-1915 - Jack Lester - Oklahoma - d. 9-18-2004
    actor: Sky King "Sky King"; ""Whistlin' Jimmy Steele"
    08-10-1923 - Rhonda Fleming - Los Angeles, CA
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-10-1924 - Martha Hyer - Fort Worth, TX
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-10-1928 - Eddie Fisher - Philadelphia, PA
    singer: "Stars in Khaki 'n' Blue"; "Eddie Fisher Show"
    08-10-1928 - Jimmy Dean - Plainview, TX
    singer: "Grand Ole Opry"

    August 10th deaths

    02-02-1888 - Frank Lloyd - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 8-10-1960
    film director: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Robert Arden Round Table Discussion"
    05-02-1903 - Sylvan Levin - Baltimore, MD - d. 8-10-1996
    conductor: "Sinfonietta"; "Brownstone Theatre"; "Let's Go to the Opera"
    05-06-1914 - Ken Englund - Chicago, IL - d. 8-10-1993
    writer: "Three Sheets to the Wind"
    05-20-1894 - Adela Rogers St. Johns - Los Angeles, CA - d. 8-10-1988
    novelist: Commentator on NBC 1936-1937
    06-18-1910 - Dick Foran - Flemington, NJ - d. 8-10-1979
    singer: (The Singing Cowboy) "George Burns and Gracie Allen Show"
    07-03-1915 - Jerry Gray - Boston MA - d. 8-10-1976
    bandleader: "I Sustain the Wings"; "Philip Morris Frolics"; "Club 15"
    07-10-1913 - Joan Marsh - Porterville, CA - d. 8-10-2000
    actress: "Calling All Cars"; "Good News of 1939"
    07-17-1917 - Lou Boudreau - Harvey, IL - d. 8-10-2001
    sportscaster: Chicago Cubs
    08-07-1910 - Freddie Slack - Westby, WI - d. 8-10-1965
    pianist, bandleader: "Kraft Music Hall"
    08-20-1911 - Robert Riley Crutcher - Missouri - d. 8-10-1974
    writer: "Fabulous Dr. Tweedy"; "Eddie Bracken Show"
    08-23-1900 - John Nesbitt - Victoria, British Columbia, Canada - d. 8-10-1960
    commentator: "Passing Parade"
    09-20-1898 - Charlie Dressen - Decatur, IL - d. 8-10-1966
    baseball manager: "Tops in Sports"; "Brooklyn Dodgers Locker Room Interviews"
    09-30-1912 - Kenny Baker - Monrovia, CA - d. 8-10-1985
    singer, comedian: "Jack Benny Program"; "Glamour Manor"; "Kenny Baker Show"
    10-27-1890 - Bob Becker - Terryville, SD - d. 8-10-1962
    commentator: "Fireside Chats About Dogs/Pet Parade"
    11-13-1903 - Conrad Thibault - Northbridge, MA - d. 8-10-1983
    singer: "Show Boat"; "Packard Hour"; "Manhattan Merry-Go-Round"
    11-17-1901 - Ted Husing - The Bronx, NY - d. 8-10-1962
    announcer, sportscaster: "Sportslants"; "March of Time"; "Radio Reader's
    Digest"
    11-27-1897 - Vera Allen - New York City, NY - d. 8-10-1987
    actress: Grace Doblen "Hilltop House"; Mother Malone "Young Dr. Malone"
    xx-xx-xxxx - Sheila Barrett - d. 8-10-1980
    impersonator, mimic: "Fred Allen Shoe"; "Time of Your Life"; "Magic Key"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:23:58 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Another OTR Cryptoquote
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    Once again, the syndicated newspaper puzzle feature "Cryptoquotes"
    has an OTR-themed subject today (10). I've already solved it & I
    recommend fans & solvers of this daily puzzle to skip to the next
    Digest item lest I be a spoiler.

    Today's quote was something  I actually read here recently, and
    it goes like this:

    "An intellectual is a person who can listen to the William Tell
    Overture and not think of the Lone Ranger."  --Source Obscure

    Geez, one of the smartest guys I know is Minnesota's Jim Nixon
    who happens to be a leading authority/historian on the Ranger. I
    can wholeheartedly appreciate the facetious nature of the above
    quote, but do let the record show that there ARE intellectuals who
    dig the Lone Ranger.

    Hi-ho Ether!

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:16:17 -0400
    From: "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Doc Adams'  Real Name

        In my earlier post, I neglected to mention that in the January 31, 1953
    episode, "Cavalcade," we also learn that Charles Adams is an assumed name.
    Doc's real name is Calvin Moore.

        I will leave it to the listener to discover the background of that name.

        "Cavalcade" is one of many exceptional GUNSMOKE episodes.  A wonderful
    Les Crutchfield script combined with marvelous performances by Howard
    McNear, Bill Conrad, and guest Larry Dobkin.  Well worth the listen.

    Signing off for now,

    Stewart

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:16:33 -0400
    From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Chester
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    It seems to me the reason Chester was Chester Proudfoot on the radio Gunsmoke,
    and Chester Goode on TV was because of the stiff leg actor Dennis Weaver gave
    the character.   It would be kind of a nasty bit of dark humor to call a man
    with a bad leg "Proudfoot".  Also the name suggests some American Indian
    heritage in radio's Chester.  The TV characterization was that of an old
    country boy, and nothing of the traditionally stoic Indian.  These are merely
    my conjectures, of course.
    -- Jim Harmon

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