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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 296

Table Of Contents: 

	 Technology and Story Telling
	 Horse race broadcast
	 Radio Dead, and why?
	 Re: The Falcon & Sgt. Preston
	 Imagination Theater
	 16" transcriptions
	 Kids shows
	 Audiobooks like otr
	 The Crime Club
	 Jimmy Stewart & OTR
	 Vic and Sade on TV
	 OTR in Seattle, WA area

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:22:23 EDT
From: claughli@[removed] (Charles Laughlin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Technology and Story Telling
Message-Id: <[removed]@superior>

Lest we consider the impact by TV on radio too narrowly, let's recall
that radio too replaced other more "old fashioned" entertainments.
Story telling for entertainment and education and communication is
universal to human cultures, and probably goes back in human evolution
to at least 40,000 years, and probably beyond.  And during all that
time, people would sit around in the evenings or after a hunt or
successful war party or harvest and tell the story of the event or of
events in ancient, mythical times.  Sometimes folks would act out the
stories and the best actors were in great demand at story time.  

Then came books, and pretty soon story time was maybe the reading
before bed or after work, or reading aloud before bedtime.  The demand
was still for the best story tellers, but now the story teller could
be someone you never knew and perhaps long dead, but there was still a
demand for the best readers of the stories.  This is still alive in
"talking books" we check out from our local library and listen to
before bed or when driving to town.

Then came radio, which for many families replaced even the reading or
telling stories by people you knew with famous people you didn't
personally know.  And then came TV which even replaced our need to be
internally creative in our imagery.  If you are like me, my memories
of old time radio are more visual than auditory.  I remember SEEING
Supereman floating out to sea in that chest with the Kryptonite in it,
not just the verbal description of it.

Anyhow, the point is that there is a long history of technological
discoveries changing the social and experiential nature of story
telling, and the change has been toward increasing control of the
senses by the medium and decreasing active participation by our local
social group in the story telling.  And of course it won't stop with
TV.  True virtual reality technologies will evolve fairly soon that
are capable of controling the entire sensorium and we will experience
literally being thrown into the midst of an interactional story.
Ironically, there will -- there already is with computer games -- a
turn around to greater activity on the part of the audience.

Thing about you and me is, we place ourselves in the phase of
technological history that we like best -- where Superman floats out
to into the sea of almost certain doom in our mind's eye.

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Charlie
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:07:53 -0400
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Horse race broadcast
Message-ID: <960823110753_186012448@[removed]>

Don Brockway asked if there are any airchecks of famous horse races.  There
are a few, the most famous of which happened in May of 1947 when Clem
McCarthy called the wrong winner in the Preakness.  He named Jet Pilot
instead of Faultless And then had to correct himself.  It's fun to listen to,
especially in McCarthy's coast-to-coast apology when he says Babe Ruth often
"struck out," too so he felt he was in illustrious company.  I also have the
races when Seabiscuit defeated Kayak the Second; when War Admiral won the
1937 Preakness; when Whirlaway won the 1941 Preakness; when Challedon beat
Johnstown in the 1939 Preakness; when Count Fleet took the 1943 Preakness;
and the match race between War Admiral and Seabiscuit.  So, yes, there are
some available.  Probably other Digesters will have even more.  I'm not quite
sure why more Preakness material is available but it may have had something
to do with broadcast "rights."

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:20:28 -0700
From: Michael P Urban <urban@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Dead, and why?
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>         It is difficult for those of us who love OTR to accept the fact that
> this is the way it is; but, we have to get it:  most folks don't want their
> drama to be sans pictures.  This form of home entertainment is never coming
> back for the masses.  I hate it, but it's so. On the other hand, the big
> bands aren't coming back either; and, ballet, opera, poetry, while great art
> forms, aren't compelling to the majority of people.
> 

And yet, and [removed] is reason to believe that people are quite
receptive to radio drama and comedy, albeit in less numbers (and
therefore not producing the same Big Bucks) than television.  Consider
that many people `watch' many television programs while doing other
tasks like housework, bill-paying, and the like, scarcely, if ever,
looking at the screen.  Some shows ([removed], Star Trek, in most of its
incarnations) are little more than illustrated radio programs -- you
can listen to the audio track and get pretty much the same content;
programs that _demand_ visual attention, like Mission Impossible
(which had very little dialog) or Police Squad (mostly visual gags)
are considered exceptional.  Indeed, you can buy sound-only television
receivers for the car or office just for `television listening'.
People also buy `audio books' to listen to while commuting or at other
times -- in fact, judging from the shelf space in bookstores, this is
a growing market.

I think that the apparent overwhelming preference people have for
television is often (not universally, of course) based more on habit
than actually deriving significantly greater enjoyment from the visual
medium.  People think of radio drama and they automatically think of
something old-fashioned, corny, and obsolete.  How can you sell to a
market like that?  (Call it `Narrow bandwidth broadcast drama'?  `Aural
Environmental Home Theatre'?)

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:47:53 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: The Falcon & Sgt. Preston
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>
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"George S. Cole" <gscole@[removed]> writes:
>Dick: The Inspector Corbett character on the FALCON was played by Ken 
>Lynch.  I know the voice you are referring to on SGT. PRESTON OF THE 
>YUKON, but do not remember the name of the actor.  I can say that he 
>also was heard on many LONE RANGER episodes.

Well, a whole issue went by with no answer to this one, so I guess I'll
volunteer it: it was Paul Hughes. I'll nominate this as the gold-plated,
Number One most Frequently Asked Question.  :-)

(...and wouldn't it be really great to have his voice doing your own
answering machine message? Just [removed])

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:47:59, -0500
From: DFEQ02A@[removed] (MR JOSEPH   ANDOLINA JR)
To: OTR@[removed]
Subject: Imagination Theater
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

A poster questioned about what where the syndicated Imagination 
Theater originates from.
It is a program that is in current production in Seattle, WA.  It is 
actually called The KIRO Mystery Playhouse and aired over KIRO-AM.  
Produced and written by radio veteran Jim French,  it has been around 
these parts a good 10 years or so.  They do a taping in front of a 
live audience one thursday every month.  It recently went into 
syndication (nation wide?) with the new title of Imag. Theater.  It's 
somewhat resembles the CBS Mystery Theater. The writing ranges from 
okay to quite poor in my opinion. Even though CBS Mys. Theater 
suffered sometime from the same problem, I enjoyed listening to CBS 
more than I do KIRO Mystery Playhouse.   But with the popularity of 
Imagination Theater, I wonder why Hyman Brown couldn't re-syndicate 
his show perhaps to be broadcast on a once or twice weekly basis.  
Anybody know of his phone #.  I'd love to contact him on that subject.
 He used to be in NY,  but he's no longer listed as such.

Joe

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:24:56 -0700
From: Rick_Botti@[removed] (Rick Botti)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 16" transcriptions
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I also made a new discovery recently. I acquired a number of 16" vinyl 
records consisting of music and radio plays,  the label says War 
Department, US Government. 

My turntable is to small to play them, does 
anyone know where I could found a turntable 
large enough to play them on?


Many Thanks

Rick Botti

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Date: 23 Aug 1996 15:00:32 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Kids shows
Message-Id: <m0uu2Qk-000YhDC@[removed]>

Hi, all,
I thought it would be interesting to hear suggestions on the best all
time kid OTR shows,be it favorite episodes of a series or an entire
series. I am trying to find shows that my kids might like.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:12:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Audiobooks like otr
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> The popularity of audio books suggest an opportunity for audio drama and
> comedy.  For the most part, somebody just reads an (often abridged)
> book.  Add some sound effects, actors speaking the words of characters
> in the novel, and music and you have long-form OTR (with the ability to
> stop and start the program -- and to listen in a car or with a Walkman).
 

There are a lot of audiobooks just like this today.  There are
probably a hundred or more stories from Louis Lamour that are
dramatized with sound effects and are very similar to OTR.  There
are others, too.   Some are recoreded radio shows from BBC and
other sources, but a lot of them are made just for audiobooks.

I would love to see this grow into something like what OTR used
to be, with original stories written just for this medium.

Barry

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:47:16 -0400
From: Bigkids@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Crime Club
Message-ID: <960823194716_464084405@[removed]>

I've heard two episodes of "The Crime Club," circa 1947. Very nice
production, opening with a telephone to the Crime Club itself, as if it were
a kind of downtown, leather-chairs-and-brandy-by-the-fireplace establishment.
The person who answers the phone identifies himself (rather testily) as the
librarian.

He then tells the caller that, Yes, they do have that story, in fact the
manuscript is right here, and thence we get into the story of the evening.

Of the two installments I've heard, one is very juvenile and silly (about a
missing mummy) while the other is quite good (it concerns a boxer). The only
commercials are for The Crime Club itself, which was a Doubleday book imprint
for many, many years. In fact, it survived into the 1990's (!) and I recently
heard of an attempt to revive it as an independent imprint.

The "librarian" mentions that the Crime Club releases a new book every week!

I was startled to hear this show and to learn of its tie-in with the
publishing series. No data on it in the -- alas, all too few! -- reference
books at my disposal.

Anyone else ever hear this show, have installments of it, or have any
information to share?

Dick

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:00:05 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jimmy Stewart & OTR
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>Hi, all,
>If we know that OTR was becomming a thing of the past in the 1950's, how
>did someone get Jimmy stewart to star in the six Shooter. Also what kind
>of money would he make doing that show? I wouldn't think that it was
>more than he made for a movie. Any Ideas?
>

The story as I understand is that Jimmy Stewart was trying to rebuild a
career after his years in World War II and at the immediate moment he was
not getting the roles he hoped for. I believe that is why he was available
for radio too.  Eventually, as we know his career took off even more so
around the time Hitchcock was using him for a number of his feature films.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:29:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rich Samuels <richsam@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Vic and Sade on TV
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I have in my files two scripts from the short-lived Vic and Sade TV
series---and a number of production memos regarding budget and contractual
details with writer Paul Rhymer and talent Bernardine Flynn. I'll post it on
my website [[removed]~richsam/] one of these days. The show was
done on the cheap---the sets, for example, were recycled from the 'Hawkins
Falls' soap, axed several years before.

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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 04:03:15, -0500
From: DFEQ02A@[removed] (MR JOSEPH   ANDOLINA JR)
To: OTR@[removed]
Subject: OTR in Seattle, WA area
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

For those of you living in and around Seattle can pick up some great 
OTR over the 2nd audio (SAP) on channel 9 KCTS PBS.  What you need is 
either a Stereo TV or VCR with SAP availability. Better the VCR to be 
able to tape the programs. The schedule is as followes. 

Monday thru Friday 11PM - 1AM (2 hrs.) (A rebroadcast of the 
preceding Sunday's schedule broken up
into 2 hr. segments,  except for Fridays, there's 2 hrs. of shows not 
heard from Sunday's line up.)

Saturday 8PM - 9PM

Tuesday 3AM - 4AM (rebroadcast of Saturday's programs)

Sunday 2AM - 10AM (8 hrs.)

A great deal of the shows retain the original commercials.  It's a 
great way for the beginner to build their Old Time Radio collection.  
The only frustrating thing is dates for each program is not given. 
They're only given on the Saturday program. I guess we here in WA 
can't have [removed]:(

Joe




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