Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #40
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 2/2/2002 9:03 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 40
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Mr. First Nighter                     [ FKELLY <fkelly@[removed]; ]
  a question                            [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@delphiau ]
  Inner Sanctum title                   [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
  Trivia Book                           [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  OTR Trivia Book                       [ Allen J Hubin <ajhubin@[removed]; ]
  MP3 & XM > DEH-P7400MP                [ Habegger <amej@[removed]; ]
  Arthur Anderson                       [ Weisberg Mitchell D DLVA <WeisbergM ]
  Boxing Bouts                          [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
  star sightings (Gale Storm & Mason A  [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
  Re: Repost link to next OTR Conventi  [ sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn) ]
  OTR on Film                           [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  Boxing dramatization                  [ Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu ]
  Pay Download Sites                    [ "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@anchorwall. ]
  Academy Awards Show                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  boxing                                [ ejcooper2001@[removed] ]
  Re: OTR Boxing Recordings             [ Allen Lingley <af417@[removed]; ]
  OTR Trivia Books                      [ "Robert Everest" <erest@bellatlanti ]
  bing's first White Christmas.         [ jao@[removed] (Joseph Onorato) ]

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:03:02 -0500
From: FKELLY <fkelly@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mr. First Nighter

I'm looking for a copy of any show of "Mr. First Nighter" or perhaps it
was called "The Little Theatre Off Times Square".  I really only need to
hear the opening.  Is it available on any web site?  You can email me
off list if necessary.  Thanks for the help.
Frank Kelly, Pittsburgh

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:04:48 -0500
From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: a question

Hello all,

	I was gone from the list for a while, but I have returned and
have just been lurking and enjoying the threads.  I did have question I
wanted to ask the list [removed]

A while back, there was a discussion going on about databases for
tracking a OTR collection.  Some people used spreadsheets, some used
database software, some just kept handwritten lists, but I don't
remember anyone discussing how they link their inventory lists to their
physical collections.  I assume that when most people include a show on
their list, they have a number on the entry which identifies which tape,
reel, vinyl, CD, or MP3 the show is on.  My question is what kinds of
numbering systems do people use?

	 I suppose a simple one would just be a serial scheme, where the
first tape (I'll use the word tape for simplicity, assume any type of
media) added to the collection is number 000001, the second is 000002,
etc. etc., without regard to the actual content of the show.  This would
be a fast and simple way to file, and shows could be easily found using
the database.  However, you would end up with Lum & Abner next to the
Shadow next to Vic and Sade next to a Glenn Miller remote.  You might
see this a good or bad, but it is very disorganized.

	A second system would be to create some Dewey Decimal system,
and have your physical collection organized by show.  For example, your
Jack Benny could be identified as [removed], [removed], etc. and you Lone
Rangers could be [removed], [removed]  Of course this leads to questions
like: do you file all your Jack Bennys together or do you separate Lucky
Strike Programs from Jello Program, etc.

	The next natural question is do you then divide your shows by
catagories like comedy, western, children, etc.  So Benny would be
[removed], but would Lone Ranger be [removed] for western or
[removed] for children (most would probably say western)?  But then
what about Bobby [removed] is that western or children (I would say
children)?

	With a decimal system like this, the physical collection would
be much more organized, but would require a lot more thought and you
would have to make sure to leave enough room in your numbering scheme
for expansion and additions.

	So long story short, does anyone have any advice on how to
*physically* organize your shows, and how to link the physical
collection to a listing or database in a practical but robust and useful
way?

Thanks!
Chris Holm

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:03:22 -0500
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Inner Sanctum title

Hi all:
I used to own an episode of Inner Sanctum and I always wanted to find it
again, but it didn't have a title.  The story starred Barbara Weaks and
Martin Gable (sp). They just got married and the husband is suspected of
being a serial maniac murderer.  It turns out the actual murderer is Everett
Sloane (sp) who almost kills the wife with a switchblade, but the husband
runs in and shoots him just in time.  The police chief is played by Lewy Van
Rooten and I remember his name is Chief Dent.  This was from either 1949 or
1950.  If anyone could help me, I'd sure appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
ryanO

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:42:13 -0500
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Trivia Book

Bill Owen’Äôs, The Over 60 Trivia Book, 2001, St. Johann Press; available at
bookstores;  361 questions with answers.  Bill is a yearly attendee at our
convention and a trivia expert.  There is much radio in it.  The forward is
by Jim Lowe.

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:40:47 -0500
From: Allen J Hubin <ajhubin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Trivia Book

I responded directly to the questioner about an OTR trivia
book, but perhaps others would be interested.  The one
I called to his attention was:

Faster Than a Speeding Bullet, by Stuart Silver and Isidore
Haiblum. Playboy pb, 1980  ISBN 0-872-16760-7
260 pp.

It's subtitled "An informal history and quiz of radio's golden
age".  The format generally involves a paragraph of background
about a particular show, followed by a series of questions (with
answers).

Al Hubin

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:41:30 -0500
From: Habegger <amej@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 & XM > DEH-P7400MP

The latest of MP3 players comes in the form of a mobile CD/MP3 Player
with AM/FM Tuner by Pioneer. The DEH-P7400MP is pricey: MSRP, $[removed] I
purchased mine at Fry's for $[removed] None of the "Online" outlets had it
available (not in stock, or not listed). It is XM ready. (XM Satellite
Radio service is a subscription service and the DEH-P7400MP requires a
XM Tuner to receive the service.) I have it and love it. That's the
reason I wanted to look at this unit.

I discovered the receiver/player at Fry's, so returned with my
assortment of "burned" disks. It played all of the formats: 20
kbps/16kHz, 24kbps/22kHz, 32kbps/22kHz, 64bps/22&44kHz, and
80kbps/44kHz. It displays the folder (up to 8 layer of sub-folders with
a maximum of 253 folders), file, track title, artist name, album title,
play time and bit rate information. A remote control is included.

This generation of players is the best of all worlds. I can have XM and
MP3 in the same box; even AM radio!

Dick
Anaheim

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:53:36 -0500
From: Weisberg Mitchell D DLVA <WeisbergMD@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Arthur Anderson

Arthur Anderson, that perennial favorite of the FOTR conventions (and from
"Let's Pretend") had a real nice role on this Wednesday's "Law and Order"
episode.
Did anyone catch him?  Hey, radio actors are good actors, period!

Mitchell Weisberg

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:26:24 -0500
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Boxing Bouts

There has been much mention of prize fights, but no mention of the Adam
Hat sponsored weekly schedule of fights. Old pro Sam Taub was the blow by
blow sportscaster. Charlie Vacner, sports writer for the Brooklyn Eagle,
did the color. WHN staff announcer Brooke Temple did the commercials. I
was the regular [removed] year was 1936. The locations were Madison
Square Garden (about 52nd street and 8th Avenue, the Hippodrome on Sixth
Avenue, Ridgewood Grove in Queens, and an arena in the Bronx. A young
fight fan by the name of Milton Berle would sit with me and yell insults
at orchestra conductor, Dave Rubinoff, who would be seated ringside
across the ring, a situation I was not too crazy about. However, one
evening he chose to sit behind Sam Taub and started heckling Sam, who was
a very competent, but nervous, sportscaster. I could see that Sam was
becoming irritated. It was during the preliminaries. As the bell rang for
the start of the next round, Sam introduced Milton and said that he would
describe the action. Milton was dumbfounded, made a fumbling try, and
made an ass of himself. Sam gave me a big wink and a grin. The perfect
unfforgettable "put-down". Needless to say, Milton never sat with us
again!

In those days sports were not the big deal that they are today. Major
league baseball in the summer. Some college football in the fall.  Boxing
in the winter. No big deal!

Bill Murtough

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:26:50 -0500
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: star sightings (Gale Storm & Mason Adams)

For those OTR digest members who get A&E, you might want to check
out two shows this month:

Monday Feb 18, 2002
3:00 [removed] Murder, She Wrote.  Something Borrowed, Someone Blue. Jessica
attends the long-awaited wedding of nephew Grady, only to find her
investigative skills put to the test when murder crashes the nuptial event
and claims an unlikely and unliked person. Angela Lansbury stars with Michael
Horton, Gale Storm, Bill Macy, Conchata Ferrell, Betsy Palmer, and Rick
Hurst. CC  [TV G]

and on the same day:
5:00 [removed] Murder, She Wrote.  The Search for Peter Kerry. Murder and intrigue
result when the heir to a large fortune, who has been missing for 20 years,
suddenly surfaces. Angela Lansbury stars with Mason Adams and Sam Bottoms.
CC  [TV G]

Although my schedule says "[removed] Air time listed is both EASTERN TIME AND
PACIFIC TIME. ", you might want to check local listings since there is only
one time listed for both.

Arlene Osborne

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:08:02 -0500
From: sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Repost link to next OTR Convention

requested by Ben Ohmart.
Approved: ctrn4eeWlc

Dear Ben and all: Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound Showcase X will be
presented at Seattle CENTER June 28 through 30. For information go to
Reps website at <[removed]; "A must see!"

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:31:20 -0500
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR on Film

Re film footage of radio shows:

In 1947 or 1948, I saw a film short with Martin Block in a visual
recreation of MAKE BELIEVE BALLROOM. I have no idea whether this was
filmed at WNEW or in a film studio, but I do recall that he sat in front
of shelves filled with records:
[removed]

Two years ago at the Museum of Television & Radio, I decided to watch
the premiere of NBC-TV’s WIDE WIDE WORLD (16 October 1955), hosted by
Dave Garroway with the theme “A Sunday in Autumn.” The innovative series
debuted that afternoon with live remotes from NYC, the Grand Canyon,
Lake Mead, Weeki Wachee, Dallas, Gloucester, St. Louis, San Francisco,
Cleveland and Omaha. The New York segment included a telecast of the NBC
Radio studios while MONITOR was on the air. A MONITOR newscaster was
shown delivering a report on flooding in Connecticut (following earlier
shots of rainswept streets in Manhattan). Cameras captured Alfred
Hitchcock being interviewed on MONITOR -- minus audio because Hitchcock
was some distance away, behind glass in another studio.

Presumably, this lack of sound while Hitchcock spoke was a clever
promotional ploy to get people to turn on their radios and listen to
MONITOR, then four months old: [removed] ... If so,
then it was a fascinating follow-up twist to the earlier one-hour
simulcast during MONITOR’s eight-hour premiere (12 June 1955).

This WIDE WIDE WORLD can be seen at the Museum of Television & Radio in
either LA or NYC. The OTR past could spring to life if a filmmaker
managed to synchronize that footage with a tape of the 16 October 1955
MONITOR.

Bhob @ SHOWBIZ @
[removed]

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:31:43 -0500
From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Boxing dramatization

  The TV dramatization of the Louis-Schmelling fight, referred to in a Digest
posting, will be on the Starz cable network March 9. I've seen it in advance
and can recommend it. For more information, go to
[removed]

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:47:17 -0500
From: "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Pay Download Sites

Has anyone on this list ever signed up to a pay web site for downloading
mp3 files of otr?  I have found several while browsing at lunch today,
and wondered if anyone has had good experiences with these.  The one I'm
contemplating now says (paraphrasing) "the files range in quality from
excellent to poor", so I'm guessing they haven't listened to everything
they have posted.  Any recommendations for one (or two) of these sites?

Ron Vickery


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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:43:18 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Academy Awards Show

I reference to the query about the academy awards show. I have the
presentations for 1943 which was broadcast on March 2, 1944. It is one hour in
length. If interested contact me off-line.
--
Ron Sayles

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:32:58 -0500
From: ejcooper2001@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: boxing

I have a set of PRESTO discs containing the Joe Louis vs. Tony Galento
matchup of June 28, 1939 (NBC). Bill Stern was ring side and interviews Joe
Louis and his manager afterwards. Gabriel Heatter dies the "color commentary"
. RCA Victor phonographs was the sponsor

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:34:41 -0500
From: Allen Lingley <af417@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: OTR Boxing Recordings

I have 6 home recording discs of the Joe Louis--Jersey Joe
Walcott championship fight that was broadcast June 25, 1948 on WENR
Chicago (ABC).  The first 6 rounds have decent sound, as they were
recorded on aluminum base blanks.  Unfortunately, the remaing rounds were
recorded on paper base media, and are very noisy.  The last side contains
about 3 min of a post-fight interview with Joe Louis. The commentary ends
abruptly, when ABC ended its coverage at exactly 10pm.

- Al

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:47:58 -0500
From: "Robert Everest" <erest@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR Trivia Books

One is "505 Radio Questions Your Friends Can't Answer" by Harry Castleman &
Walter J Podrazik.

Published in 1988 by Walker & Company, it one of a series on 505 Question
books.

There are more probably errors than your average book.

Ex: Why did Tonto dub young John Reid the Lone Ranger.

    Rob

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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:49:02 -0500
From: jao@[removed] (Joseph Onorato)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: bing's first White Christmas.

19 days after pearl harbor, on the live broadcast of the kraft music
hall on Dec 25th, 1941  bing crosby sang the first public performance of
White Christmas.
this was months before filming for Holiday Inn was started (the film was
released in aug of 1942)   his first Decca recording was made 29 May
1942.

[removed] there is an archaelogist reading [removed] who has uncovered this
KMH 12/25/41 [removed] do contact [removed]
this septuagenarian would be very grateful.

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