Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #77
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Date: 3/2/2004 6:49 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 77
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Have Gun - Will Travel DVDs           [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Turning back the clock?               [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Horlicks                              [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      Brain vs. Heart                       [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Lux Radio Theater info                [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
      Harry Bartell and "Struts and Frets"  [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
      3-3 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Glenn Miller                          [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      Re: Ovaltine and Horlicks [was "Adve  [ RickEditor@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:07:10 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Have Gun - Will Travel DVDs

    Greg commented:

>     Well, it has just been announced that "Have Gun--Will Travel: 1st
>     Complete Season" will be released as a DVD set on May 11, 2004. It
>     features all 39 episodes from the first season (1957-1958) on 6 DVDs.
>     It has a list price of $[removed] but most internet discount DVD stores are
>     selling it for around $[removed]

    For anyone who does not have a DVD player, don't fret.  The entire TV
    series, all 225 episodes have already been commercially released on video
    (56 videos, about 4 episodes per video) through Columbia House/CBS.  Some
    sources sell those videos for anywhere between $[removed] and $[removed] depending on
    where you shop.  As for the DVD series, CBS is releasing them (they own the
    rights to the TV series) and they plan to have the remaining five seasons
    out on DVD within the next three years.  If anyone wants to see some of the
    best episodes of the series, I highly recommend seasons two and four.  More
    4 star episodes during those two seasons than any other.

>     What makes this exciting for OTR fans is that many radio stars are
>     featured in these 39 episodes: John Dehner (not playing Paladin, but
>     another character), Harry Bartell, Larry Dobkin, Vic Perrin, Olan Soule,
>     Jeanette Nolan, Karl Swenson, Parker Fennelly, Ralph Moody, Lurene
>     Tuttle, Jess Kirkpatrick, Marian Seldes, Ted de Corsia, Russell Thorson,
>     Joe De Santis, Ben Wright, Tyler McVey, and many more. So, if you want
>     to SEE the faces that match these wonderful radio voices, I'd recommend
>     getting this DVD set.

    "High Wire" was the episode featuring John Dehner, and was filmed and
    broadcast before the radio series even began being recorded.  Because Dehner
    later supplied the voice of Paladin for the radio series, "High Wire" ended
    up being the only television episode of HGWT to feature John Dehner.
    Highlights of the first season include:
    "Three Bells to Perdido" (September 14, 1957)  was the premiere episode of
    the series.  (NOT the episode entitled "Genesis" like people keep mistaking.
    "The Outlaw" (September 21, 1957) featuring the late Charles Bronson.
    "The Great Mohave Chase" (September 28, 1957) with radio/TV actor Larry
    Dobkin.
    "No Visitors" (November 30, 1957) with June Lockhart as Dr. Thackeray, one
    of Paladin's few true loves.
    "The Hanging Cross" (December 21, 1957) a superb Christmas episode that also
    featured a different opener than the show usually offered and proves (after
    you watch it) that the visual medium of the TV series was far better than
    the radio series - the radio version of this script was not as good.
    "Helen of Abajinian" (December 28, 1957) with a "risky" dance by the bride
    offering her services to her new husband, which Gene Roddenberry, the author
    of the script, would later reprise for the STAR TREK pilot "The Cage."
    "The O'hare Story" (March 1, 1958) featuring director Andrew V. McLaglen's
    real-life father, Victor McLaglen.
    "Hey Boy's Revenge" (April 12, 1958) considered by TV GUIDE (most recently)
    as one of the 100 best television episodes ever filmed and broadcast.
    "The Return of Dr. Thackeray" (May 17, 1958) with June Lockhart returning to
    reprise her role (which clearly "hints" that Paladin and Thackeray were more
    than mere lovers, in which Paladin almost beats a man to death with his bare
    fists just because the villian hit Thackeray, and features Johnny Western's
    only appearance on the show.  Western would, shortly after the filming of
    this episode, compose a "thank you" song called "The Ballad of Paladin,"
    which the producer then in turn made it the closing theme song for the show
    beginning with season two.

    All in all, the DVD series is a must-see for anyone who loves westerns
    and/or classic TV.  Comes highly recommended.  (And it would figure CBS
    would begin releasing the series on DVD - just weeks before their
    announcement, I purchased the entire series on DVD for [removed])
    Martin Grams, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:55:24 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Turning back the clock?

    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];

>     And some place in my thoughts, there is this scenario that says, "The
>     day will come when real radio will come back here in our country."

    Dear Ted & [removed]

    This is going to sound VERY weird, coming from the guy who's posted ad
    nauseum about how audio drama is still a living, valid [removed]

    But, my Mom raised a realist, as well as a guy who hates to see people suffer
    from vain hope. If "come back" means "- to be what it was in the '40's", I'd
    have to say what I've felt when I heard other hopeful folk say simlilar
    things:
    "That'll happen just after silent film comes back in a flourish."

    Sorry,
    -Craig

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:48:57 -0500
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Horlicks

    Mark Reesor wrote:

>     The post about Horlicks got me curious. Turns out the product has just
>     been relaunched in the UK and is also marketed in India, Maylasia and a
>     number of other countries - and it's owned by a little company called
>     GlaxoSmithKline! I love Google!

    Mark, GlaxoSmithKline is one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the
    world!  Production and sale of Horlicks's has never been interrupted since
    1873 when it first appeared in the market.   The relaunching did not take
    place in the UK, but in India.  While sales in the US dropped, especially
    after they lost their patent and 'malted milk' was declared a generic by the
    government Horlicks never fell out of favor in England and elsewhere.

    The two Horlick brothers James and William were born in England and migrated
    to the US.  William invented malted milk. James was a qualified pharmacist
    who further developed the product as a health food and 'malted milk' was
    patented in 1873.   He also marketed the product to pharmaceutical
    companies.   Horlicks was only sold in drugstores at that time.  They
    weren't hucksters though; they truly believed in their product.  It became
    an instant success.   (As anyone who listens to Lum 'n Abner knows
    incredible claims  were made about the health benefits of Horlicks in their
    Lum 'n Abner commercials.)

    In 1890 James returned to England to open and run the English branch of
    Horlicks.  William remained in Racine WI.   It was still one company but
    after James' death in 1921 for tax and family reasons the company split up
    and James' son took over the English branch which had markets all over the
    world, while William kept America, Canada, the Caribbean and South America.
    William died in 1936 and in 1945 the English branch, Horlicks Ltd,  acquired
    the American branch from William's son.

    In 1969 the Beecham Group's offer of about $30 million was finally accepted
    by Horlicks Ltd.   But that was a pretty long run for the original company
    1873-1969.  We're all familiar with constantly changing corporate names.
    I'm not sure if this list is complete but Beecham Group merged with Smith
    Kline and became SmithKlineBeecham, and  Glaxo merged with Burroughs
    Wellcome and became Glaxo Wellcome.   Finally, Glaxo Wellcome merged with
    SmithKlineBeecham in 2000 and while Beecham and Wellcome are still in the
    mix the new entity is called GlaxoSmithKline.   All parties are
    pharmaceutical companies.

    I particularly remember Glaxo because as I mentioned in 1995 they merged
    with Burroughs-Wellcome Pharmaceuticals, an English company which
    established their American subsidiary in Tuckahoe, NY, my home town, in
    1906.   My father had a luncheonette right across the street from Burroughs
    Wellcome which was filled with BW scientists and others every day, making it
    possible for him to send his 3 kids to college.  :))

    In 1970 long having outgrown their Tuckahoe facility, they moved to NC.
    (One of the female scientists working at Tuckahoe went on to win a Nobel
    Prize with 2 other researchers, a source of great pride in Tuckahoe.)

    Fortunately, my father had sold the Tuckahoe place and bought a small
    restaurant in nearby Bronxville, NY a good number of years before BW left,
    because their leaving was a jolt to the village and its economy and
    certainly to his former luncheonette.

    It's ironic that Horlicks is now imported by the US from the UK, considering
    that it was born in Racine WI which even named a high school after William
    Horlick.

    I'm sure this is more then anyone wants to know about [removed]  In
    modern terminology Horlicks is classified as a food supplement but no longer
    one that rescues a sickly child from death's door, according to one of the
    'testimonials' aired during the Lum 'n Abner shows.

    But I have always loved Horlicks, and am very grateful I can buy it locally.
    I thank my mother for believing all those health claims or I probably would
    never had Horlicks ever present in my home while I was growing up.
    Thankfully she never told me it was 'healthy' or I might have turned away
    from it.

    -Irene

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:27:55 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Brain vs. Heart

>     From: seandd@[removed]

    WBAI-FM New York chose to take Max Schmid's Golden Age of Radio program off
    the air last night to air news updates on the political situation in Haiti.
    I suggest any regular listeners write the station to complain <

    Dear Sean & [removed]

    As one who has toiled in the vineyards at BAI, I have to be the bearer of
    sobering tidings again. Though there are folks who tirelessly struggle to
    keep Arts alive there (PER THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE STATION'S FOUNDER, NO
    LESS!!!), this is an uphill battle.

    Such Saints as Max Schmid, Matthew Finch, and Steve Lewis fight the good
    fight, but most of the station is so hopelessly hyper-politicised that it
    would be funny, if it were not sad.

    So, keep your expectations tempered. But by all means, send your support for
    creativity to the powers-that-be there -  the more maturely eloquent, and
    less fanboy
    whiny, the better. (And if you can somehow make the connection that a vibrant
    Arts element is essential for the health of the Politically Savvy, believe me
    it'll [removed])
    Good luck!
    Craig Wichman
    (of the ever-thankful-for-BAI Quicksilver Radio Theater)

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 16:52:12 -0500
    From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lux Radio Theater info

    I got the following message and thought I'd pass it
    along to this list.

    "One of my long term projects is to put together the
    "definitive" Lux collection (slowly) and to get people
    to stop spreading some of the common errors. I have
    had contact with many people who just can't be
    bothered to delete one of the most common ones I am
    trying to eliminate. They leave it in distro sets, on
    ftp sites and on hubs.

    Some people are more interested in the number of
    programs they have in a set and not that they are
    correct or not. I can tell that you are not that type
    of person.

    All I ask is that you help me to elimiate any copies
    of this one error if you see it in collections, FTP
    sites, hubs etc. If I could get it off Streamload I
    would be really delighted.

    The one I am after right now is:

    Lux Radio Theater 1936-08-10, #93, "The Jazz Singer".

    Lux did not repeat their broadcasts but they often
    remade the same program several times.

    This title was done twice but 1936-08-10, #93 is
    supposed to be unavailable. It stars Al Jolson and
    Karen Morley but NOT Gail Patrick as #575 does.

    Often you find #575, 1947-06-02 which stars Al Jolson
    &
    Gail Patrick wrongly labeled as #93.

    If the producer is William Keighly it is just a
    wrongly labeled copy of #575. It should have as
    producer Cecil B. Demille to be #93.

    #575 also has an announced next week show of "One More
    Tommorow" with Jane Wyman & Dennis Morgan.

    IF YOU SHOULD EVER FING A REAL LUX #93, I would love
    to have it.

    Best wishes,

    Vic E."

    If anyone actually has the REAL episode #93, please
    let me know and I'll put you in touch with this
    fellow.

    Concerning his quest to eliminate mis-labelled copies
    of Lux from circulation, ... personally, I think he's
    tilting at windmills, but I wish him luck.

    -Regards,

    -FIBBERMAC-

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 16:54:39 -0500
    From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Harry Bartell and "Struts and Frets"

    It is beyond my humble capacity to expound upon or add
    to the eulogies already wrinten for Harry Bartell, so
    I will add a simple "Amen" to what other list members
    have already said.

    I know that Charlie has archived and made available
    Harry's wonderful series of articles entitled "Struts
    and Frets". I was just wondering if other list
    members, besides myself, would be interested in having
    Charlie re-run them in future issues of the Digest?
    This would be a great service to those who are new to
    the list as well as those of us who would enjoy the
    rereading of those delightful first hand stories of an
    OTR veteran.

    And, just in case Charlie decides against doing
    reruns,... What was that link again, Charlie?

    -FIBBERMAC-

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: I'm not planning on re-running the articles within the
    Digest, only because they are available on the website 24/7 for reading:

    [removed]

    But they _are_ worth reading, over and over.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 16:55:26 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  3-3 births/deaths

    March 3rd births

    Hina Matsuri (Japan)

    03-03-1902 - Ruby Dandridge - Memphis, TN  - d. 10-17-1987
    actress: Mammy Brown "Gallant Heart"; Geranium "Judy Canova Show"
    03-03-1906 - Donald Novis - Hastings, England - d. 7-23-1966
    actor: Matt Mulligan "Jumbo Fire Chief Program"
    03-03-1911 - Jean Harlow - Kansas City, MO - d. 6-7-1937
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    03-03-1924 - Barbara Jean Wong - Los Angeles, CA - d. 11-13-1999
    actress: Judy Barton "Cinnamon Bear"

    March 3rd deaths

    01-18-1913 - Danny Kaye - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-3-1987
    comedian: "Danny Kaye Show"
    01-23-1904 - Randolph Scott - Orange County, VA (Raised: Charlotte, NC) - d.
    3-3-1987
    actor: "Academy Award Theatre"; "Campbell Playhouse"
    02-26-1887 - William Frawley - Burlington, IA - d. 3-3-1966
    comedian: Fred Mertz "I Love Lucy", "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Hollywood Hotel"
    03-06-1906 - Lou Costello - Paterson, NJ - d. 3-3-1959
    comedian: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Abbott and Costello Show"
    03-13-1907 - Frank Wilcox - DeSoto, MO - d. 3-3-1974
    actor: Father "Central City"
    03-19-1889 - George L. "Doc" Rockwell - Providence, RI - d. 3-3-1978
    comedian: "Camel Pleasure Hour"
    04-04-1895 - Arthur Murray - NYC - d. 3-3-1991
    dance master: "Natural Bridge Dancing Class"
    09-21-1918 - Randy Brooks - Los Angeles, CA - d. 3-3-1967
    bandleader: "One Night Stand"
    10-16-1917 - Alice Pearce - NYC - d. 3-3-1966
    actress: Daphne "Henry Morgan Show"
    12-02-1918 - Ezra Stone - New Bedford, MA - d. 3-3-1994
    actor: Henry Aldrich "Aldrich Family"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 16:55:49 -0500
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Glenn Miller

    NPR had a spot on Glenn Miller yesterday. It also
    featured a interview with the last surviving Andrews
    Sister. I wasn't able to catch it all in the car, but
    here's the URL:
    [removed]

    Kermyt

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    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:50:08 -0500
    From: RickEditor@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Ovaltine and Horlicks [was "Adventures
     in Chinatown"]

    Old-Time Foods

    "The Vermont Country  Store" (both mail order  and online) has an entire
    section of "old time  foods" including Ovaltine and Horlicks. The Ovaltine is
    said
    to be the "original  recipe," and if you compare the ingredients of the
    store's product to the one  available in supermarkets, you'll see quite a
    difference in the amount of malt  (it's greater in the old stuff).

    Other products include Beemans Gum,  Walnettos (in a reproductiobn 1920s
    tin),

    The web site is  [removed] (I'm just a customer).

    rick  selvin
    philadelphia

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