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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2003 : Issue 216
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Familiar Voices [ Bernie Czerwinski <bpczerwinski@yah ]
Rinso jingle [ "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed]; ]
Pat Boone and Arthur Godfrey [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
RADIO GUIDE [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
Re: Indy 500 on Radio? [ "Bill Orr" <billorr6@[removed]; ]
May 27th birthdays [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Springbok Radio [ eric_cooper@[removed] ]
Re: calling all cars cds and 16in tr [ "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
An Interesting Find [ "Shawn A. Wells" <swells@[removed] ]
Familiar Voices [ oldpdb@[removed] (Paul Barringer) ]
Academy of Ancient Music [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
Re: Familiar Voices [ Kcpymurphy@[removed] ]
Question [ Zharold138@[removed] ]
last shows [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
Sam 'n' Henry [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Familiar Voices [ Martin <watchstop@[removed]; ]
Familiar Voices [ "Scott Eberbach" <saeberbach@earthl ]
Re: Home Recording [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:02:40 -0400
From: Bernie Czerwinski <bpczerwinski@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Familiar Voices
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When I think of John Dehner I always think of "Have Gun, Will Travel."
Frank Lovejoy is one of my favorites.
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:02:53 -0400
From: "Robert Angus" <rangus02@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Rinso jingle
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Has anybody got a copy of the Rinso jingle as sung by Bubbles Silverman
(Beverly Sills) that they could e-mail me as an MP3 file? Possibly part of a
Rinso-sponsored soap opera commercial in the early 1940s.
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:03:05 -0400
From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Pat Boone and Arthur Godfrey
Pat Boone is going to perform in Reno next month and he's probably still
wearing his trademark "white buck shoes." The publicity release mentions
that he was a regular on the Arthur Godfrey Show - which is news to me.
When
was he on the Godfrey show? Radio? TV?
Pat is now hosting a weekly Music Of Your Life nostalgia
music, syndicated radio show.
Russ Butler oldradio@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:18:04 -0400
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RADIO GUIDE
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I have a few copies of Radio Guide from the late 1930s . It was printed
regional so on some copies the radio listings are for Pacific Coast stations
and
others are for the New York area ([removed]) . The radio listings are station
specific and are great to research what was actually on in certain areas.
My questions is [removed] Radio Guide became Movie Radio Guide did the
detailed listings remain ? Or were they abbreviated , altered or dropped
altogether?
I think the radio listings are one of the best things about the old radio
guides.
just my opinion.
Thanks
Bryan
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:49:34 -0400
From: "Bill Orr" <billorr6@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Indy 500 on Radio?
Like Dan Hughes, I grew up in Indianapolis (try learning to spell that in
the first grade!).
Sid Collins of WIBC called the first *complete* race in 1952. Sid had long
been known as the "Voice of the 500". Prior to 1952, there were periodic
"break-ins" of the race. I have a photo of someone (I don't think it was
Sid) poking a mic into Wilbur Shaw's face as he quaffed the traditional
bottle of milk after winning 1940 race.
BTW, the first TV remote was of the 1949 race by WFBM. They had 15,000
[removed]!
More info can be had about Sid Collins by searching for his name on Google.
Regards,
Bill Orr,
Tulsa, OK
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:50:33 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: May 27th birthdays
If you were born on the 27th of May, you share your birthday with:
05-27-1894 - Dashiell Hammett - St. Mary's County, MD - d. 1-10-1961
author: "The Fat Man"; "Adventures of Sam Spade"
05-27-1904 - Marlin Hurt - Du Quoin, IL - d. 3-21-1946
actor: Beulah "Fibber McGee and Molly"; Bill Jackson "Beulah"
05-27-1911 - Vincent Price - St. Louis, MO - d. 10-25-1993
actor: Simon Templar "The Saint"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Spencer Tracy
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:56:03 -0400
From: eric_cooper@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Springbok Radio
Springbok Radio, which was headquartered in Johannesburg, South Africa, was
created and went on the air in 1950. It was the South African governement's
atempt at creating a national commerical radio service similar to what the
USA had at time. The programming was the same as our network fare in 1950.
The major difference between Springbok Radio and the USA was due to
politics. Owing chiefly to the policies of apartheid, or racial separation
that were in force in South Africa during those years, the SA government was
extremely reluctant to allow television into the country. In fact South
Africans had no TV service until 1975. Thus Springbok radio continued
presenting the type of radio programming that all of us on this list enjoy
throughout the 1960's and 70's. Many recordings of Springbok Radio circulate
widely in the USA today and are highly prized among OTR buffs here. After TV
serice started , Springbok enjoyed another 10 years on the air before
succumbing to a nationwide re-vamping of radio services in 1985
Eric Cooper
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:24:47 -0400
From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: calling all cars cds and 16in
transcriptions
hi
finally after all this time the 16in discs have been recorded,
the cds are being given a touch up to remove as much surface noise as
possible, now (if anyone is interested in buying some 16in discs email
me at edcarr@[removed], min purchase is 10 discs at $12 ea for those who
bought a few before and postage, i will explain further when you email
and as to the cds again i will explain,they aren't expensive per, but would
like to get 10 people interested at a time, the usual whys are noted, mp3
ebay and so on, so far the cds that have been cleaned sound pretty darn
good, given slight imperfections in the discs, and the age, of course raw
copies are available(why not)
thanks all
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:38:07 -0400
From: "Shawn A. Wells" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: An Interesting Find
About two weeks or so ago, I came across 3 12" Aluminum Core-Shellac ET's.
Only one had a [removed] Label, which read, 'Frank Gallup Read A Commercial.' I
had no idea who Frank Gallup was, so I thought I would give it a listen. The
commercial was for Prudential Life Ins. and while listening to it, I noticed
that 'Mr. Gallup' was having soe trouble with his lines, and in the
background you could hear other studio personnel laughing. Anyway, I figured
that this must just be an out-take. So I turned the ET over and began the
other side. The program started and it was the premier broadcast of a game
show titled, 'Mind Your Own Business.' It's a game/quiz show. After I
finished this ET's I pulled out the next, or what I thought to be the next
(since the other two were not labeled) and started to play that. The
recording was of a gentleman telling a story/poem. I can't give you the
title to his story due to the language that was used, but I think you get
the idea. So I went to side two and found yet another story, ans as before,
it contained some pretty rough language. Alas, I went to the 3rd ET, and I
found part two to this,'Mind Your Own Business' program. Everything was
going along fine, and the host was interviewing the contestant, etc. Doing
the interview, she remarked that she had been a nurse in the war and ended
up being captured and held prisoner. Anyway, she went on to explain that she
now works as a waitress in a restaurant. The host asks her about some of the
interesting people she must come into contact with in such a job. She goes
on to explain a story about one gentleman in particular who, without going
into detail, made some 'advances.' At that point the 'crowd' or at least the
people in the studio start laughing, and so does the host, and then someone
yells 'CUT,' and that was that. The second side of the ET had a completely
different recording altogether. It was a spoof, for a party that was being
held for a gentleman named Max (something or other) who's claim to fame was
being an adult film producer. Anyway, some of the 'Guests,' were Al Jolson,
James Stewart, etc. etc. Now, these 'Guests,' were not the actual people
they claimed to be, just actors or studio personnel imitating voices.
Anyway, my questions about these recordings are this: Has anyone ever heard
of Frank Gallup or the program, 'Mind Your Own Business?' I think what I
have here is just some studio people fooling around. All of these ET's are
'Instantaneous' discs, so I would guess that they were the only set made,
and for good reason.
Thanks
Shawn
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:24:45 -0400
From: oldpdb@[removed] (Paul Barringer)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Familiar Voices
Following the line of familiar voices, along with Brace Beemer and
others, one voice I remember as a kid was William Gargan.
Many remember him as Barry Craig, or Martin Kane, or Ellery Queen in
three movies, but I remember him best as Ross Dolan in "I Deal In Crime"
from 1946-47.
Ironic, that a person that used his voice as his mainstay, would
develope cancer of the larynx.
After his laryngectomy, and using a voice box to speak, Gargan,
campaigned extensively against smoking for The American Cancer Society.
I've read that only 3 surviving episodes of "I Deal In Crime" are
available.
I am always on the lookout for any episodes.
Paul
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:26:11 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Academy of Ancient Music
NBC was so behind the times, I have a half hour recording of the Glenn Miller
Orchestra playing on New Years Eve 1970, where NBC used live remotes of a
number of major big bands from night clubs all over the country in 1/2 hour
segments. A throwback to the 30s and 40s in 1970 after Woodstock and The Beatles.
The NBC execs in New York were just out of it. I'm suprised the network lasted
as long as it did.
Ah, yes.
1970 minus, say, 1934 = 36 years. Now, 2003 - 36 years = 1967. That would
mean that I might be able to hear songs from 1967 playing, perhaps, on the
sound system at the grocery store. Or on the radio.
M Kinsler
involuntary old-timer
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 00:10:02 -0400
From: Kcpymurphy@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Familiar Voices
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The voices that I always recognize are Raymond Burr, James Stewart, William
Bendix, Vincent Price, Mason Adams, Jeanette Nolan, Parley Baer, Jack Webb,
William Conrad, Rosemary DeCamp, Lurlene Tuttle and the most prolific of
actors
who played extras in lineups, bums on the street, sidekicks, etc. and also was
playing on television at the same time he was on radio in the 50's - Howard
McNeer [Floyd the barber on Andy Griffith Show].
Kacie
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 00:10:13 -0400
From: Zharold138@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Question
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Hi Anybody,
A person just asked me about a radio program which either started with
"Anyone can catch the brass ring" or "The brass ring can catch anyone".Can
anyone
help me on this one? I've bet a brass monkey on the right answer.
Thanks, Harold Zeigler
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:30:35 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: last shows
Hi Everybody,
reading Jim and Mark emails about the last days of the Soaps. Got me
thinking what wore the last types of shows for all three center of OTR.
Below is an outline and maybe we could figure it out.
Hollywood last shows
1. last 30 minutes sit-com comedy shows base in Hollywood
A. Stan freeber show in 1957, or the rerun of the Jack Benny show in 1958
2. last mystery show base in Hollywood
A. Suspense in 1960
3. last Western base in Hollywood
A. Gun Smoke in 1961
4. last Kids show base in Hollywood
A. ?
5. last music show base in Hollywood
A. Bing Crosby and Rosemary Clooney show around 1962
6. last audience show audience partiparation show
A. was it You Bet your Life in 1960, or House Party in 1970. I have an air
chick from 1970 but I don,t know the source is radio or TV.
7. the last Soaps
A. One Man Family 5-8-59
8. last Dramatic show base in Hollywood
A. Lux Radio Theater in 1955
9. last Detective show
A. ?
Chicago
1. last 30 minutes sit-com Comedy show base in Chicago
A. ?
2. last Kid show base in Chicago
A. ?
3. last Soap base in Chicago
A. ?
4. last audience show base in Chicago
A. Breakfast show in 1968
6. last detective show base in Chicago
A. ?
7. last music show base in Chicago
A. ?
8. last mystery show base in Chicago
A. ?
9. last Western base in Chicago
A. ?
New York
1. last 30 minutes Comedy show base in New York
A. ?
2. last music show base in New York
A. ?
3. last Kid show base in New York
A. ?
4. last dramatic show base in New York
5. last Soap base in New York
A. ?
6. last Western base in New York
7. last detective show base in New York
A. Johnny Dollar in 1962
8. last mystery show base in New York
A. Suspense in 1962
9. last audience show base in New York
A. ?
Sorry for not being consistence with the outline. Take care,
Walden Hughes
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:30:45 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Sam 'n' Henry
On the old Sam 'n' Henry show, the precursor to Amos 'n' Andy, who played Sam
and who played Henry?
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Spencer Tracy
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:30:59 -0400
From: Martin <watchstop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Familiar Voices
If I begin to compile a list, it is neverending. One of the great
beauties of radio was that it provided the venue of all possible
venues for the human voice; speaking, singing, doing everything from
giving a commercial to announcing the death of a president, to
imitating the bark of a puppy.
Television had its moments also, in its early days, but it was
overtaken by technology. There is always too much in present day
television, and this has been the case ever since it got up to full
speed several decades ago. Rapid cutting, an awful excess of special
effects, visual and aural noise. The icing on the lousy cake:
pictures within pictures within pictures, not to mention text
crawling along, popping out, flashing right and left, with more new
digital tricks and gimmicks churning forth daily.
As I write this message, it strikes me that today's world of radio
keeps right up with television when it comes to media ugliness.
Maybe a large part of the blame goes to the companies monopolizing
ownership, and it is possible that before long the only good place
for both media will be the trash can. I would buy a Michael Powell
voodoo doll if they were not so repellant to look at and hold, even
for an instant while jabbing a pin in its eye.
However, we can have confidence that the specific greatness of old
time radio will be preserved, at least within a selected community,
for all times to come. Radio needed only a few inventions,
particularly the microphone, in order to take off on its sensational
adventure. Fortunately, its great days lasted for a number of
splendid years.
Those of us who have had the good fortunate to hear great radio are
certainly lucky pups.
--Martin Fass
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:18:27 -0400
From: "Scott Eberbach" <saeberbach@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Familiar Voices
Some that come to mind are Mercedes McCambridge, Orson Welles, Parley Baer,
Jack Webb, Paul Frees, Jim Boles, Barton Yarborough, Russell Thorson, Bill
Johnstone, Bret Morrison, and our own list member Harry Bartell.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:52:53 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Home Recording
George Aust <austhaus1@[removed]; asked about a 1943
home recorded
disc of Red Skelton I'm afraid to play it as the grooves look like micro
grooves in that they are very fine and also very shallow. This is a 10"
disc that appears to be black vinyl, with a brown core visible on the edge.
Because it was recorded in 1943, this was before microgroove was
introduced. Even after 1948 very few home recordists used microgroove. So
the proper stylus to use would be a 78 RPM stylus, probably around [removed]
mils.
The brown metal core you are seeing is RUSTED steel. Almost all of the
Philco discs were steel, as were most metal wartime home recording discs.
The rust means that the black lacquer coating quite possibly has only a
very slight hold onto the steel base, and that the rust growth underneath
the lacquer has made the surface bumpy.
In all likelyhood the disc is recorded at 78 and would be about 3 to 4
minutes per side. Even if it were recorded at 33 1/3 (a possibility) it
would only be about 8 or 9 minutes per side.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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