Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #317
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Date: 10/3/2004 6:27 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 317
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Cathy, Elliott and Mary Jane          [ "Paul Thompson" <beachcrows@sbcglob ]
      This Weekend with Walden Hughes       [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
      Anyone have any of these shows??      [ Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed]; ]
      Sound effects                         [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
      "Grand Ole Opry" Gets a "New" Name!   [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
      Re: Yours Truly Johnny Dollar: Joan   [ TimL2009@[removed] ]
      Last of the Seattle pics are [removed]    [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
      SKY CAPTAIN                           [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      10-3 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      MAN WHO CAME TO DINNER                [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
      Radio story submissions               [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
      "spooky" shows                        [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
      chime pitches                         [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
      Death of Jean Hay (Reveille with Bev  [ Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:12:08 -0400
    From: "Paul Thompson" <beachcrows@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cathy, Elliott and Mary Jane

    George Jennings posted:

>     ...... It referred to her husband, Elliot Lewis, who died in the
>     early 90's. Did Lew divorce Cathy and marry Mary Jane, and is the death date
>     approximately correct?

    That grand couple of radio Elliott and Cathy Lewis did divorce sometime
    around 1958.

    Elliott later married Mary Jane Croft. Cathy died in 1968 suffering from
    lung cancer.

    Elliott died in 1990 from heart disease and his widow Mary Jane died about
    five years ago.

    Paul Thompson

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:12:27 -0400
    From: BryanH362@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  This Weekend with Walden Hughes

    Where:  Yesterday USA
    Can be heard live via the internet at [removed].
    Weekends at 7:30 PM PDT.

    Saturday 10-2-04

    A.  Classic Interview:  John Dunning interviews  with George Balzer.

    B.  a mix of OTR

    C.  YUSA  interview with Don Cornell

    Sunday 10-3-04

    A.  Mike Biels

    B.  Fall Premiere !
         Laura Leff presents The JACK BENNY season of 1944-1945.
         Over the next 8 months Laura Leff will present ,in consecutive order,
    the first season
         done for Lucky Strike .
         This week Laura introduces the very first Lucky Strike program from
    10-01-1944.

    C.  a mix of OTR

    D.  Classic Interviews: Richard Lamparski interviews Jack Pearl .

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:13:19 -0400
    From: Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Anyone have any of these shows??

    In order to fulfill some listener requests, I am looking for examples of
    the following series

    1. Break the Bank
    2. Pot of Gold
    3. Second Honeymoon
    4. California Caravan (especially the episode about the woman who passed
    for a man!)

    Here are two I never heard of - has anyone heard of these?

    Satan's Waitin'
    It Takes a Woman

    Finally, I need a clean copy of the FDR fourth term Election eve special
    from 1944. I used to broadcast this every four years, but my master tape
    got lost.

    By the way, I prefer cassette or CD/.wav formats.  MP3s sound like **** on
    the radio as they are generally circulating amongst the hobbyists (not to
    start a big argument or anything).

    Thanks to anyone who can help.

    Max Schmid - Producer - WBAI, NYC [removed] FM
    Webcast at  [removed]
    GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO Sundays 7:00 PM and MASS BACKWARDS Tuesdays 4:00 AM

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:20:49 -0400
    From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sound effects

    After reading about the Sam Spade episode re-enactment I was wondering how
    they do the sound effects today for a show like that as opposed to the good
    old days of old time radio when someone had to physically make the sounds
    that were needed for the shows.
    Andrew Godfrey

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:25:38 -0400
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Grand Ole Opry" Gets a "New" Name!

    I just got this from a Tennessee friend:

    Cracker Barrel's corporate name and logo are about to be splashed all over
    the Grand Ole Opry in a new, multiyear presenting sponsorship unprecedented
    in the music show's 79-year history.

    As of last night, the show was to be renamed ''The Grand Ole Opry Presented
    by Cracker Barrel Old Country Store'' on advertisements, show programs, a
    70-foot high sign outside the Opry House and on pole banners around Opry
    Plaza.

    ''It is the name of the Grand Ole Opry now,'' said Chris Tomasso, vice
    president of marketing for Cracker Barrel.

    Since the show launched in 1925, the Opry has had long and deep relationships
    with corporate sponsors such as Martha White Flour, as well as the show's
    longtime owner, the National Life & Accident Insurance Co. But none has ever
    stepped up to the level of presenting sponsor.

    Cracker Barrel also has a long relationship with the show; it has sponsored a
    segment for nearly 30 years.

    ''It provides broader exposure opportunity and an enhanced marketing
    partnership for the sponsor, above and beyond what's been done before,'' said
    Steve Buchanan, senior vice president of media/entertainment for Gaylord
    Entertainment, which owns the Opry.

    Nashville media analyst Robert Unmacht said radio programs such as the Opry
    were built on sponsorships and are a necessity if the show is to survive.

    ''If there is to be an Opry, there must be revenue, especially for the radio
    side of things,'' Unmacht said.

    ''There was a time when there was a waiting list to be on the Opry. Those
    days are over, and the quality of a few of the sponsors has been
    questionable. So I am happy they found a quality sponsor that fits the image
    of the Opry. If they don't keep finding them, there will be no Opry.''

    The Cracker Barrel logo will appear in Opry show programs, advertisements and
    on tickets and other materials at the Opry House. Daily advertisements will
    run on a video screen on a 70-foot sign along Briley Parkway next to the Opry
    House, and other Cracker Barrel-branded signage will be visible in and around
    the venue.

    Cracker Barrel's presenting sponsorship also will be mentioned during the
    show, on the syndicated radio program America's Grand Ole Opry Weekend.

    I HOPE ALL OF YOU SAY THAT ENTIRE NAME WHEN YOU MENTION THIS PROGRAM <G>

    BILL KNOWLTON: "Bluegrass Ramble," WCNY-FM ([removed]) Syracuse, WUNY ([removed])
    Utica; WJNY ([removed]) Watertown NY. On the web: [removed]. Sundays: 9 pm to
    midnight EST (since 1973)

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:19:38 -0400
    From: TimL2009@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Yours Truly Johnny Dollar: Joan Alexander

    I would venture a guess that the gap between YTJD of 11 months in 1954-55
    might have been simply that the show was canceled and later was brought back?

        Also: While I have no information on Joan Alexander per se. Game Show
    Network has begun airing at 3AM ET weeknights the ABC Game Show "The Name's
    The Same" with Miss Alexander as a regular panelist.  The early episodes also
    feature Bill Cullen and Playwright Abe Burrows (Guys And Dolls).  Later
    episodes have Meredith Willson on The regular Panel (OTR Burns And Allen: The
    Music Man)The Host Is Actor-Comedian Robert Q. Lewis.

    Tim Lones
    Canton, Ohio

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:58:39 -0400
    From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Last of the Seattle pics are [removed]

    Folks;

       Just wanted to let you know the last of the photos from the spring REPS
    Showcase have been posted to "The Blog" at [removed] - the
    last installment looks at the Saturday evening banquet. (The other four
    installments are there as well, just scroll down the page a bit.)

             Charlie

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:22:53 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  SKY CAPTAIN

    I too caught the "Shazam" inside joke, which for anyone familiar with
    CAPTAIN MARVEL (and the serial of the same name), that was the secret word
    that transformed MARVEL.  The ray gun appeared a lot like Buck Rogers, not
    Flash Gordon's, from the cliffhangers.

    The movie did not make many references to old-time radio.  Most of the
    references I caught were adapted from movies and serials like LOST HORIZON
    (the name of a Utopia named "Shangrila" was obvious) and the Max Fleischer
    SUPERMAN animated cartoons of the 1940s.

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:23:04 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  10-3 births/deaths

    October 3rd births

    10-03-1873 - Emily Post - Baltimore, MD - d. 9-25-1960
    commentator: "Emily Post"; "Right Thing to Do"
    10-03-1890 - Henry Hull - Louisville, KY - d. 3-8-1977
    actor: Honest Abe "Abraham Lincoln"; Nathan Hale "Roses and Drums"
    10-03-1898 - Leo McCarey - Los Angeles, CA - d. 7-5-1969
    judge: "This Is My Story"
    10-03-1899 - Gertrude Berg - NYC - d. 9-14-1966
    actress: Molly Goldberg, "Goldbergs"
    10-03-1910 - Gwen Davenport - Colon, Canal Zone, Panama - d. 3-23-2002
    author: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-03-1916 - James Alfred "Alf" Wight - Sunderland, England - d. 2-23-1995
    author: James Herriot Books

    October 3rd deaths

    01-23-1919 - Millard Lampell - d. 10-3-1997
    co-founder of the Almanac Singers: "Treasury Star Parade"
    02-24-1914 - Zachary Scott - Austin, TX - d. 10-3-1965
    actor: "Suspense"; "Encore Theatre"; "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    05-17-1903 - Artie Auerbach - NYC - d. 10-3-1957
    actor: Mr. Kitzel "Jack Benny Program"
    06-04-1917 - Charles Collingwood - Three Rivers, MI - d. 10-3-1985
    newscaster: CBS News UN Correspondent/White House Correspondent
    07-17-1914 - Eleanor Steber - Wheeling, WV - d. 10-3-1990
    singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "[removed] Fox Trappers"
    09-17-1928 - Roddy McDowall - London, England - d. 10-3-1998
    panelist: "Keep Up with the Kids"
    11-30-1913 - John K. M. McCaffrey - Moscow, ID - d. 10-3-1983
    newscaster: "Author Meets the Critics"; "What Makes You Tick?"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:45:25 -0400
    From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  MAN WHO CAME TO DINNER
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    LSMFT   [removed] I mean: SOS SOS SOS
    I am getting ready to direct the sage version of THE MAN WHO CAME TO DINNER
    for our community theater's annual Christmas production and I am hoping to get
    some help from my fellow digesters.
    First, are there any radio versions of the play out there? I seem to recall
    someone on the digest mentioning a production with Jack Benny as the lead? Is
    that something I only imagined?
    Next, I am looking for a TV(ugh!) version which starred our beloved Orson
    Welles and Don Knotts. It was made I think in 1974. Any copy of this film
    production would be greatly welcomed.
    Finally, the play is based on the real-life personage of Alexander Woolcott,
    THE TOWN CRIAR. Any of these boradcasts available for consumption?
    If anyone can help me to find any of the above items, PLEASE get in touch with
    me off board or on as soon as possible.
    Thanks in advance!
    Randy Story

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:45:52 -0400
    From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio story submissions
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    Hello --- We are planning a third volume of "It's That Time Again -- New
    Stories of Old Time Radio".  Ben Ohmart, Publisher announced that some weeks
    ago, and now I, Jim Harmon, Editor am repeating this.
        We had a number of ideas submitted, most of which could be worked out.
    Some were not quite right.   And anyway, we need more stories for the volume.
        The gimmick this time -- I think we have to admit that it is a gimmick --
    is that it will be a crossover of two characters or sets of characters from
    two different radio shows.   Many famous characters have been asked for, and
    some we can not use because of complaints from the copyright owners.
    No Sam Space, Thin Man, Fat Man, Lone Ranger, Shadow, I Love a Mystery.   So
    far I have assigned Whistler, Gunsmoke, Jack Armstrong, Nick Carter,
    Mysterious Traveler, Tom Mix and others.
        We are definitely open to further ideas.   But your concept has to be
    discussed with me and approved by me.  I hope new writers will contact me.
        -- JIM HARMON

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    Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:54:35 -0400
    From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "spooky" shows

    I have quite a love of "old dark house" movies from the 30's and 40's.  I
    used to wonder why I was never happy with any radio equivalent.  I think
    that it is the feature of the different medium.  In the movies I like it
    when the panel opens at the back of the bed and the scary hand comes through
    to grab the hero - or whoever.  Usually such things are wordless, they are
    visually striking with use of shadow and there is often some music used to
    heighten the tension.  This works really well on film.
    There is something that I have wondered, maybe folks can help me with.  A
    lot of the old movies are what I would call screwball horrors - an old dark
    house, a killer, a romance and some comedy (I love these sorts of movies).
    What radio shows would you say fit into this catagory?

    Love as always, David Rogers

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    Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 00:00:07 -0400
    From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  chime pitches

    chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed]; wrote:

>     Michael Shoshani says of the D-Day Fourth [removed]

> >     The pitch is D# - C - G#, in A=435.  I have the type
> >     of chime that was used to produce [removed]

>     I hate to descend into complete, 100% nerd-dom right
>     here in full public view, but to the extent it might
>     be important to know what type of chime was actually
>     used:  the D-Day four-chime pitches are
>     unquestionably, without a doubt B-D-G-G, just
>     bordering on a half-step higher.

    Nope.  They are not B-D-G-G, but I have changed my mind as to what
    they *were*, based on my acquisition of a Deagan 21 chime, which is
    similar to the Model 20 used by NBC from 1931 until the chimes were
    mechanized.  The chime plates on this one are C - F - A - C; thus, the
    D-Day sequence would be A - C - F - F , one whole tone lower than what
    the recordings make out to be.  This makes more sense to me than it
    being a 400 series chime with sharp/flat notes.

    Deagan did not make chimes with B or D in them, at least from the
    1930s onward.  They streamlined into six basic models with three
    different key pitches, and each key pitch was designed with specific
    intervals.  They correlated to what brass players would call
    'partials'; it was intended that bugle calls could be played on the
    chimes, and so the chime plates had similar interval relations no
    matter what the actual notes are.

    The chimes were all pitched in the old International Pitch, A=435 Hz,
    and for reasons unknown to me, on every Deagan dinner chime I have
    ever measured the third plate is EXACTLY 20% flat.  The other plates
    are precisely tuned to their note.  This was discovered not just on a
    handheld digital guitar tuner but also on a big boatanchor StroboConn.

    There is a ringing in my ears; I wonder why :)

    Michael Shoshani
    Chicago IL

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    Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 09:31:22 -0400
    From: Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Death of Jean Hay (Reveille with Beverly)

    CBS radio and other media are reporting today the death of Jean Hay
    (1917-2004), whose "Reveille with Beverly" was a radio wakeup for GIs
    during World War II.

    According to the Reveille with Beverly homepage
    ([removed]), she died on September 18, but
    apparently there was no earlier news reports of her death.

    An AP report* quotes her son Bob as saying that she died after suffering
    a stroke while gardening. She lived in Fortuna, in Northern California.

    I saw her this May when she was among the radio veterans sharing their
    stories at the Smithsonian Institution's "Tribute to a Generation"
    event, which coincided with the dedication of the National World War II
    Memorial in Washington.

    The May 2004 issue of Smithsonian magazine featured her in its "Around
    the Mall" section ("Beverly": Better Than the Bugler), which is online at
    [removed]

    Regards,
    Art
    ____________
    *online at
    [removed] and
    probably elsewhere

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