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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 175


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 NLAS Convention
	 Yukon Gold
	 Re: Canticle For Liebowitz
	  Collector's Choice Music                                              
	 WSJV-9/21/39
	 WJSB
	 reel to reel
	 The Price of Fear
	 pilot show
	 Radio Premiums
	 making cassette labels
	 Re: Carlton Fredericks
	 Re: A Canticle For Leibowitz
	 Bob Braun Dotti Mack
	 RE: horror shows
	 A Canticle For Liebowitz
	 Sealed Book vs. Mysterious Traveler
	 Re: NPR Tapes and Service 
	 Ed Carr

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Date: Wed, 15 May 96 10:30:00 PDT
From: "Litsey, Alan" <alitsey@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: NLAS Convention
Message-Id: <319A1651@panther>

Posted on behalf of the National Lum and Abner Society:

12th ANNUAL NATIONAL LUM AND ABNER SOCIETY CONVENTION TO BE THE BIGGEST YET!

Every year since 1985, the National Lum and Abner Society has held its annual 
convention in the famous radio entertainers' hometown of Mena, Arkansas. Each 
convention has featured celebrities from the world of radio and/or motion 
pictures, who have greatly added to the knowledge of Lum and Abner history. 
But this year's event, to be held on Saturday, June 22, 1996, promises to be 
one of the most spectacular in the organization's history!
     No few than five special guests are scheduled to appear during the day's 
festivities. The late Lou Crosby was the Lum and Abner series' most famous 
and long-running announcer, serving in that capacity from 1938 to 1944. This 
year, two of Lou's daughters will be in Mena to share their special memories 
of their father and his work with Chet "Lum" Lauck and Norris "Abner" Goff. 
This development takes on added significance when on realizes that the 
younger of the two daughters is television and motion picture actress CATHY 
LEE CROSBY. Cathy Lee is well remembered for hosting the highly popular 
That's Incredible TV series of the early 1980s, and the list of her other 
movie and TV appearances in quite impressive. Her older sister, LINDA LOU 
CROSBY, was, of course, named after both [removed] dad Lou, and 
mother Linda Hayes Crosby. 
     FOREST OWEN is one of the two producers who served Lum and Abner 
during the Alka Seltzer years, and inasmuch as he started his tenure on the 
show in April 1946, he too will be with us in Mena to observe the 50th 
anniversary of his position. 
     Several other important L&A anniversaries take place this year as well. 
It was in April 1936 that the small town of Waters, Arkansas, offically 
changed its name to Pine Ridge, to conform to the radio program's locale. 
Publicist Harlan Hobbs was a part of those activities 60 years ago, and he 
plans to be with us to reminisce about his long friendship with Lauck and 
Goff. In 1940, he coordinated the publicity campaign for their first motion 
picture, Dreaming Out Loud, and during the 1960's, he and Chet Lauck became 
partners in a Hot Springs advertising agency. His good friend Ben Combs of 
Little Rock also enjoyed a long association with the boys, and was the 
guiding force behind some of Chet's television work in the 1960's and 1970's. 
Now a well-known Arkansas advertising executive, Mr. Hobs will be on hand to 
discuss his L&A connection. 
     The town of Mena is celebrating the centennial of its 1896 founding, and 
special attention will be given to the town's influence on Lum and Abner 
history. Not to be overlooked is the 50th anniversary of L&A's final 
Hollywood motion picture, Partners In Time. 
     The 12th Annual NLAS Convention will take place at the Best Western Lime 
Tree Inn in Mena, beginning at 10:00 [removed] on Saturday, June 22. There is no 
charge for any of the NLAS activities, nor is there any registration fee, but 
space is limited, so if you plan to stay overnight, you should call the motel 
at (501) 394-6350 for reservations. 
     For more information about the Convention, or the NLAS, contact the 
Executive Secretary, Tim Hollis at (205) 674-0101 or (205) 648-6110.

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:23:57 -0500 (EST)
From: SAH@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Yukon Gold
Message-id: <01I4QGDG5UN28WXJT1@[removed]>

   Thanks to Joel Siegel we have finially seen the land we dreamed about
   over 40 years ago in the Klondike.  And thanks for letting us know
   ahead of time to watch.  To think that anybody could have had the
   surfact rights for $[removed] in '65.  Thats only about 2 million in today's
   dollars.  

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 14:07:34, -0500
From: BWWG42A@[removed] (MR JACK L PALMER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Canticle For Liebowitz
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Jack Palmer * [removed] #[removed] ] --

For Alan, Alex and others who may be interested.
	IMHO, Canticle For Liebowitz was one of the great scince fiction
stories.  I read the original story years ago and also the novel that
was based on the story.  In regard to your question, there was a radio
program produced by BBC some years ago.  (There may be others, but this
is the only one I'm familiar with.)  It is in 16 30 min episodes and I
have a copy on 8 cassettes.  I have not played it for some time but if
I remember correctly, the sound is fairly decent and I did enjoy it. 
If anyone is interested I might be able to supply a copy  in exchange
for some other show.  It is on 8 one hour cassettes.
				Jack

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Date:    15 May 1996 11:46:44 PDT
From: <RRDENTRY@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject:  Collector's Choice Music                                              
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

To: [removed]@[removed]                                                 

FROM: Dennis Menard                                                             
SUBJECT: Collector's Choice Music                                               

Hi Peter:                                                                       

Thanks for the address and phone number of Collector's Choice Music.  I do      
appreciate it.  I'll have to be more careful where I store these invaluable     
snippets of information and irreplaceable sources.                              

       Dennis Menard (403-667-5283)                                             
       Renewable Resources - (R3-A)                                             
       10 Burns Rd, Whitehorse, YK.                                             
       Internet: rrdentry@[removed]                                             

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 14:53:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nicholas Kierniesky <kiernies@[removed]>
To: OldTimeRadio <otr@[removed]>
Subject: WSJV-9/21/39
Message-ID: <[removed]@alpha>

Dear OTRers,
     I want to briefly follow-up on Erik Smith's recent comment about the 
entire WSJV broadcast day  of 9/21/39.  First, a correction: it was WSJV 
"Jesus Saves Virginia," not WSJB. Also, the month was September, not 
October.  This station later became WTOP, the current call letters.
     To be able to listen to an entire broadcast day is MOST informative 
to a hard-core OTR enthusiast. As Erik Smith mentioned, the soap operas, 
if nothing else, really drive home the  gender roles of the 
time. The number of soaps was amazing.
     There are many other interesting observations. Despite 9/21/39 being 
a heavy news day, there are surprisingly very few scheduled news broadcasts
(3 or 4 15 min. ones in 18 hours!).  The "dead-air" time during the 
Washington Senators baseball game was very long by today's standards. The 
radio commentary and interview prior to the Roosevelt speech was fairly 
uninformative.  By 1939, I would have expected local and network radio to 
have been better on these criteria, than they were as represented by this 
day's broadcast.  
     The early Godrey was also interesting. The record spinning 
"personality" begins with Godfrey in the 1930s. The radio talk &controverial
"personality" begins with Godrey in the 1930s.  Records and talk (and 
news) were all that remained in radio by 1960.
     I strongly recommend this 18 hour investment in time, if you can 
find it.

-Nik
*************************************************************************
Nicholas C. Kierniesky (Nik)             kiernies@[removed]
Department of Psychology                 (301)447-5394 (office)
Mount Saint Mary's College               (301)447-5755 (fax)
Emmitsburg, MD 21727			 (717)334-7771 (home)
*************************************************************************
   
   

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Date: Wed, 15 May 96 13:53:00 PDT
From: "Litsey, Alan" <alitsey@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: WJSB
Message-Id: <319A449E@panther>

Just to echo Erik Smith's response to the WJSB aircheck. What a great relic 
from OTR. Arthur Godfrey's relaxed morning program is such a contrast to 
much of today's frenetic radio programming. He really tries to connect with 
his listeners. A highlight is Godfrey's humorous salesmanship for Coca Cola. 
"Wouldn't hurt anybody, mother."  

In theatre literature classes I teach, I often play commercials from the 
soaps of this collection to illustrate some perceptions of gender 
roles of the period, for example. The programs also reflect this in a big way 
- especially the soaps, such as Helen Trent.  
 
The CBS Workshop is a excellent - probably the best example of good radio 
writing included in set. I have listened to much of the set several times - 
it's great fun. 

Alan Litsey 
  

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Date: 15 May 96 16:04:00 -0400
From: amo@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: reel to reel
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Can anyone tell me what is the median price for a reel to reel
machine?  I recently found one that the guy bought in 1978
for $800 and it is still in the box.  Supposed to have lots of
bells and whistles.  Then again, I know someone else that has
one stuck in his attic.  [removed] would a median price be
(not necessarily for these two), but in general.

Arlene Osborne amo@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:44:17 -0500
From: Alecia <ramble@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The Price of Fear
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi Carl
I am glad to meet another Price fan. I collect everything I can that has 
Vincent in it. I think there were 18 episodes of The Price of Fear. I am 
in a search right now for broadcast dates of what I have. I have 16 of 
the 18 episodes. Some Vincent played in and some he did not. I just 
recieved 12 episodes in the mail from an OTR friend that just gave them 
to me. Three of the episodes I had the rest were new to me. I am 
thrilled to have recieved them. OTR people are so nice and love to 
share. I checked The Price of Fear out at my local library and that got 
me hooked too. Let me know if you need other info on this series I might 
be able to shed some light.


Alecia

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Date: 15 May 96 16:33:00 -0400
From: amo@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: pilot show
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Am looking for the pilot show for Have Gun, Will Travel.
Anyone know where I can find it?
Arlene Osborne amo@[removed]

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Date: 15 May 96 17:10:44 EDT
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Radio Premiums
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Peter The Pilot

Just recvd a booklet from New Zealand:  "Peter The Pilot's 1942 Album of British
Might".  On the title page is a letter from Peter The Pilot with RNZAC Bomber
Command 12031 England as its letterhead.  It says in part: "Don't forget to
listen in to my session from 1 ZB, 2 ZB, 3ZB and 4ZB during the children's hour.
I have heaps of thrilling new adventures to tell you about."

The booklet was printed up by Diamond O-TIS The Energy Breakfast.  It is filled
with small colored cards, about the size of the collector cards from the old
Wings Cigarettes.  These cards, of various airplanes, British actions, film
stars and war leaders, were packed three to a cereal box and were to be
collected, traded and then pasted into the booklet in blank spaces with
appropriate text nearby.

Is there any info on this show?  What does 1 ZB stand for?  The cereal is
described as a "lovely porridge". I thought porridge was something that went out
with Charles Dickens and Great Expectations.   Were the New Zealand radio
stations set up along BBC lines?  What is the Children's Hour?

Any info, however slight, would be appreciated.  Will give more details on the
booklet to anyone asking.

Thanks
 
Norman Cox
    

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:26:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: making cassette labels
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hi [removed]

   Can someone tell me where to get software and actual lables for
printing my own labels to put in cassette tapes?  Not liner notes, but the
labels that stick onto the cassettes.  This must be easy, as I see several
people have it for their own tapes, but I can't find it. Any help? Thanks!

--------------------------------------------------
|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:31:52 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Carlton Fredericks
Message-ID: <960515193150_114401670@[removed]>

Bud: Food "authority" Fredericks died about 10 years ago of a heart attack.
Ironic, since he was a truly "PC" authority on what you should, and should
not eat. He was on WOR, New York for an eternity, when that station had class
and its broadcasters longevity (The Fitzgeralds, Marion Young Taylor aka
Martha Deane, Jean Shepherd, Stan Lomax, Henry Gladstone, Lyle Van, John
Wingate, The McCanns, and--still--the Gamblings). What a great station that
was!.   

BILL KNOWLTON, "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE", WCNY-FM, SYRACUSE NY.

Above note dedicated to the memory of WOR/Mutual's late Roger Bower:
producer: "It Pays To Be Ignorant", announcer: "Can You Top This" What
stories he told!

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:30:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Room 237 <room237@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: A Canticle For Leibowitz
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Wed, 15 May 1996 Jim Widner wrote:

> Actually, the recording is not a BBC production to my knowledge. The version
> I am familiar with was produced by Karl Schmidt, the producer of Earplay,
> and came out of WHA-Madison, Wisconson. It was a fifteen part production in
> 1/2 segments.

This is the same show that I have.  Canticle aired from 10/4/83 - 1/10/84
in 15, 30 minute parts.  It's in stereo and is an extremely high-quality 
production.  (not to mention a great story as well)

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 20:15:55 +0000
From: Dotty White <gunstona@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Bob Braun Dotti Mack
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I lived in Cincinnati until I was thirteen.  I can remembe watching Ruth 
Lyons and Willy Thawl (Spelling?)  I also watched a pantamine show with 
Bob Braun and Dotti Mack.  Does anyone else remember this?  I left Cincy 
in 1957.  Please email response to quetipnot@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:52:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: horror shows
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hi [removed]

  For my money, some of the scariest horror stories can be found on
NIGHTFALL and a few on VANISHING POINT (both CBC shows).

  And Erik, I don't know what is so "rare" about QUIET [removed] they
are available, and I don't know the exact number, but more than 18 are
[removed] somewhere around 60 or 70 of them.  Now, what is rare amoug
the QUIET PLEASE are good, clean copies!  Many of them are unlistenable
due to poor recordings.

   Other good scary horror shows include HERMIT'S CAVE, WITCH'S TALE, and
even a few from SUSPENSE.

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|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Thu, 16 May 96 00:40:15 UT
From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: A Canticle For Liebowitz
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>Actually, the recording is not a BBC production to my knowledge. The version
>I am familiar with was produced by Karl Schmidt, the producer of Earplay,
>and came out of WHA-Madison, Wisconson. It was a fifteen part production >in 
1/2 segments.

Actually Jim, if you check the "SciFiGuy" catalogue (that I downloaded from 
your website) you'll find BOTH the BBC and WHA versions of "A Canticle For 
Liebowitz" listed for sale ;) ;)

Bruce M. Rosenberger Hellertown, PA

BTW - It appears to be a good source for those of us that love SF radio. (I 
have yet to order anything so I can't vouch for quality of sound or 
[removed])

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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 21:03:34 -0500
From: vintage@[removed] (Andy Blatt)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sealed Book vs. Mysterious Traveler
Message-Id: <v01540b01adc03c5b0398@[[removed]]>

        Someone called the other day and asked an OTR question which
intrigued me but one that I could not answer definitively.  Were the
scripts on Mysterious Traveler re-used on The Sealed Book?  According to
the person I spoke to, the titles are similar, the stories are similar,
some of the same people are involved in both productions and Maurice
Tarplin had actor credits on The Sealed Book.

Andy Blatt
vintage@[removed]
oldtimerad@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 02:10:04 +0000
From: usrtest <usrtest@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: NPR Tapes and Service 
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

>dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell) wrote:
>Subject: Re: Canticle for Liebowitz
>the excellent sci-fi radio drama called A Canticle for Liebowitz?

>I'll second that request. I'd love to hear it. Anyone out there have it?
>Know where to get it? Of course, there *is* a PBS/NPR website. I'll >have to check in there and see if there are any leads.

Good luck getting anything from NPR.  I've been trying to get a copy of
a Daniel Pinckwater *All Things Considered* segment referred to as
the "Manly Men of Radio" piece for about a year now.  I keep getting
my money order back with terse messages (the last being that the
title that they gave me over the phone was not sufficient to locate it).
Enough to make one want to see their funding cut.

John Mayer

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 09:34:35 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ed Carr
Message-ID: <960516093433_295436821@[removed]>

Welcome Ed Carr to the Internet.  You can reach him at edcarr@[removed]

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