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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 231


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Star Wars audio tapes
	 Sidekicks
	 Goodbye to WCAR
	 QUIZ
	 NARA
	 girlfriends and OTR
	 ILAM "Temple of Vampires"
	 Re: Shadow Sponsors
	 Re: Star wars audio books
	 Star Wars audio tapes, modern creations on tape
	 OTRelationships -Reply
	 Revival time?
	 The cowboy expert speaks
	 Temple of Vampires
	 Cowboy sidekicks
	 Temple of Vampires

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 06:18:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Star Wars audio tapes
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

About the Star Wars audiotapes, you can get them at any
Barnes and Noble,  Bookstop, Border's Books, etc.  Any
major bookstore and most of the minor ones.  Also a lot
of libraries carry them.

I haven't listened to one yet so I can't comment on the
quality but there is a very large selection of them at
these stores.  They seem to be very popular.  I doubt
that they're out of print although the one you're looking
for might be.

Barry

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:04:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: k4lhb@[removed] (Thom Gooding)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sidekicks
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

A country and western group called Riders in the Sky does a great routine
called "Sidekick Heaven" where they list most of the famous movie, radio,
and TV sidekicks.  They also have a collection of video clips to go along.
Fun to see and hear.

Thom, W8HBN

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 9:51:25 EDT
From: claughli@[removed] (Charles Laughlin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Goodbye to WCAR
Message-Id: <[removed]@superior>

I cannot tell you how moving your report was, Bob, of the end of OTR
on WCAR in Detroit.  But many of us will have felt it.  This has
happened a thousand times, hasn't it.  I wish you well during the last
broadcast of Radio Vault, and I wish I was close enough to hear it.

More to the point of the Digest, however, is a question.  To the
extent you can be candid, Bob, would you trace the forces that led to
the sellout of WCAR to the new owner?  I mean, what were the economics
and psychology behind the change?  If you cannot be right up front
about this, I will understand.

Charlie
-- 
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Charles Laughlin                              Box 208
Department of Sociology & Anthropology        Wakefield, Quebec
Carleton University                           CANADA J0X 3G0
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6               Ph: 819/459-1121
E-mail: claughli@[removed]              Fax: 819/459-3537
    Homepage: [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:53:49 -0700
From: PETER GRECO <pgreco@[removed]>
To: radio digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: QUIZ
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi,
 I was a member of Jay Hickerson's committee for the 6th.'FRIENDS OF
OLD TIME RADIO" convention in Meriden [removed] that 
convention Jay made up an otr triva quiz,the first prize was a reel of
radio [removed] thought it would be fun to see how we do 20 years after
here are just a few of the [removed] had 96,0000 [removed]
who became an eagle scout at troop 3,ridgefield,[removed] was BUD
COLLYER'S full [removed] was the name of the LONE RANGER'S first
[removed] R45 L60 R15 [removed] was the theme song for JOHNNY
MADERO,PIER [removed] was the capital of the united states in the 25th
century (BUCK ROGERS)...8-what was MA PERKINS first [removed] were
the three AMECHE [removed] was ROCHESTER'S last [removed] what
street is the LONGBRANCH [removed] did you do?...I also would like
to thank JAY HICKERSON for all the great conventions and radio stars he
brought us over the [removed]

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:54:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: ERNST@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Cc: ERNST@[removed]
Subject: NARA
Message-id: <01I6IMYCTYUC8YRW31@[removed]>

I have seen some discussion here recently about NARA.  I sent them $20 in
January of 1995, and have yet to receive anything.  I've written to them
several times asking for my money back, and was told that they were having
problems sending their catalog out.  The last time I wrote to them, last
January I believe, I never heard back from them.  I consider my $20 to be
lost and don't believe I'll ever get it back.  I did join SPERDVAC at the
same time and have been very satisfied with them, although I haven't borrowed
anything lately.  So my advice is don't join NARA unless you want to loose
your money.
Gordon Ernst

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:08:11 -0400
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: girlfriends and OTR
Message-ID: <960630120810_146029771@[removed]>

The question about how to introduce girl/boyfriends; wives, husbands, etc. to
radio I think was pretty well summed up by Laura Lee.

If you are a lifetime OTR fanatic (as I am and people like Laura and many of
the rest of us are), radio shows are actually part of YOU that the other
person has to learn to accept.  Many of us developed our love affair with
radio long before our respective companions.  That is certainly true of me.

There are some people who may not be able to tolerate OTR.  I don't know why,
but it's true.   If you aren't able to successfully educate them about the
Theater of the Mind (and you haven't married them already) it's time to Move
On!

I've been married to the same person for 15 years.  She doesn't listen to OTR
with any regularity, but plays an active role in some of my OTR activities.
  I don't think you can force anyone to listen to anything, but if you can
make it into a social event, you've got a winning combination if your
girlfriend/boyfriend really is taking a serious interest in YOUR interests.

Obviously, it's a 2-way street.  I don't force her to listen to radio shows,
but she comes to a lot of OTR conventions with me.  At the same time, she
doesn't force me to work at the local animal shelter, but I tolerate the 5
cats that have joined the household.

Just my [removed] [removed]  Bob Burnham; BRC Productions; Platecap@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:47:40 -0400
From: Frank_Mallory@[removed] (Frank Mallory)
To: "otr@[removed]"@[removed]
Subject: ILAM "Temple of Vampires"
Message-ID: <MSGID_1=3A109=[removed]@[removed]>

 o>From: "Treasure Mountain  Electronic Publications" 

 o>Can anyone tell me when "Temple of Vampires" was originally broadcast?

Aug. 24, 1944 and Jan. 2, 1950

 o>Was it performed more than once (as I understand some of the stories 
 o>were--repeated several years later in a different incarnation of the 
 o>series).

Yes. I think just the later one is in circulation.

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:57:03 -0400
From: RadioJoe5@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Shadow Sponsors
Message-ID: <960630125701_344310496@[removed]>

I have no idea if the story is true, but I was told that the Shadow
transcription sessions included three telephone booth sized "announce booths"
for the various announcers, and that when they went to commercials all three
spoke at the same time for three different sponsors.  The show was recorded
by three ET's at a time, with the tire, coal and salt commercials for the
regions where that sponsor's message would apply.

I've heard more than one Cary <sp?> salt commercial, as well as the
Bridgestone and - my favorite - Blue coal.   I have *NOT* heard three
recordings with all three sponsors taking the credit for the same
script/show.

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:06:09 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Marcus Antonsson <marc-a@[removed]>
To: Old time radio digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Re: Star wars audio books
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi Friends,
Highbridge Audio Co. has published npr's dramatizations of star wars
and the empire strikes back. The return of the jedi is also coming
soon. These productions are excellent, with digital stereosound and
original music and sound effects from the films. I can warmly recomend
them. Both cd and cassette-versions are available.
Highbridge has also published Cape Cod Mysteries, another ntr-series
worth hearing.

Marc

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:02:21 -0400
From: FabFicBks@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Star Wars audio tapes, modern creations on tape
Message-ID: <960630140220_567197134@[removed]>

Hi Everybody,
     In answer to Max's comments, "Star Wars---Dark Lords of Sith" is a two
cassette audio package produced by Warner Books, distributed thru Little
Brown.  It is an audio adaption of the comic book series produced by Dark
Horse last year and is an excellent adaption.  This is not people reading the
panels, it is a full fledged radio style production with sound effects,
actors, the whole bit.
     Price on this package is $[removed]  I have a couple left at my book store
if anybody wants the set.  Contact me by private E-Mail.
     There have been several other Star Wars audio adaptionsd, all quite
good, and also some other independent radio production direct to audio tape
distributed by major publishers.  This includes a couple of original Dr. Who
adventures direct to cassette, and several some other comic book
stuff,Superman and Batman.  The Dr. Who adventures, and some new Star Trek
direct to cassette adventures are distributed thru Simon and Schuster, and
tend to be (in my opinion) very pricey for what you get.  They average about
fifteen bucks per cassette adventure, so a two cassette package from them
runs twenty six to thirty bucks, too steep for me.
     The comic book adaptions by Warner are more affordable.  Most of their
two cassette packages run in the fourteen to eighteen dollar range.  In
theory both Simon & Schuster, Warner Books, and Bantam (who are releasing a
lot of BBC material for the American market) keep their audio books in
backstock so they can be reordered by retail stores.  In practice I find that
most audio productions have one print run, and when it sells thru there ain't
no more to be had.
     There are, as near as I can figure out, a nearly inifinite number of
small independent producers attempting to cash in on the fad of books on tape
by trying to produce radio style adventures directly to cassette.  Most of
these are truly awful, and luckily most have very poor distribution. Many
times the original work is poorly written and badly plotted. Even if that
hurtle is jumped, the production people know nothing about how to persent an
audio play and their lack of expertise (and often, talent) clearly shows
thru.
     These are often the same people who have tried for years to merchandise
new radio dramas to radio stations with little or no success.  About ten
years ago, when my book store was actually sponsoring otradio on a local
station, I talked with the program director of the station I was working
with, and he showed me the week's offerings of proposed new radio drams,
three different productions, two of which provided sample cassette tapes (I
listen to 'em, they were bad).
     He explained to me that the station received at least two or three of
these kinds of offerings every single week.  The station didn't even bother
to answer, they just trashed the stuff as it arrived.  The flow of truly bad
new material being produced might help explain some of the reluctance many
radio stations had/have toward lodging otradio as part of their program
format.

---Bob Jennings

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:44:45 -0600
From: "Chester L. Cox" <CHCox@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTRelationships -Reply
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Dave Van Nostrand asks (and considers it a most puzzling question) if'n
we OTR fen keep our love for audioplays in the closet, share them with
our spouses, etc.  (He asks about wives and girlfriends, but there's
plenty women OTR listeners too.)  He asks for e-mail, but I think this is a
good topic for discussion right here on the Digest.
My wife began listening to our tapes whenever we were driving
cross-country.  Music won't keep you NEARLY as alert as good OTR --
and she was WIDE awake after a couple o' Arch Obler _Lights Out_
shows.  ("Return of the Worms" being one.)  Since then, she's gotten
completely hooked on  Gunsmoke  (though I still can't figure out how
smelling Marshall Dillon's gun could handle the killers and spoilers aroung
Dodge [removed]) and I can't make ANY orders without including at least one
Gunsmoke tape for her.

On t'other hand, she's never really gotten into my fascination for movie
serials or most comic books (except Eisner stuff), so it's not like a
hobby's a barrier to a relationship.  If it becomes one, it's not a real
relationship to begin with.

~~Chet (after sadly admitting that the Lone Ranger's true name WAS
John, this question wasn't NEARLY so puzzling)

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Date: 30 Jun 96 15:52:35 EDT
From: Joel  Senter <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Revival time?
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

All:  I read a most interesting article by Ferrell Kramer last week.  I
presume that, since Mr. Kramer is syndicated, that the article appeared in
a number of papers - I read it in The State out of Columbia, SC.  I
imagine that many of you also read it in your local papers - but for
those who didn't, the article was headlined, "Low-tech radio still
strong."  Some interesting points which I excerpt here were: 
"Why has radio not only endured technology's fast advances, but thrived?
 After all, radio still functions much as it did during its heyday, when
listeners tuned in to acts such a 'Amos and Andy' and the news reports of
Edward R. Murrow.  The answer is as simple as driving a car.  Literally,
Radio listening is, and always will be, a quintessentially 'hands-free'
effort.  'It makes the day go faster,' says Bert Madia, a Fairfield, NJ
truck driver with 30 years behind the wheel.  Drivers caught in traffic
jams are a ripe audience for radio broadcasts.  'There are a lot more
different formats today than there were 10 years ago,' says  Dennis
McAlpine, a media and entertainment analyist . . ."
And so it goes - it is almost as though people are starting to
re-discover radio!  Maybe the time has finally come for someone's jumping
into a revival of RDVAC for wide distribution?  Would the truck driver or
the guy stuck in traffic like to get off "talk radio" for just a little
while and pass the time with a Drama, Variety, or Comedy radio show? 
Maybe Bob Burnham's new Collectors' Network will be the beginning of the
radio renaissance most of us have been awaiting - what say, Bob?  Joel
Senter in Cincinnati

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:04:21 -0400
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The cowboy expert speaks
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

OK, enough of the confusion concerning sidekicks. Andy Devine played the
Jingles role on Wild Bill Hickock, radio and TV versions. He also appeared in
a number of Roy Rogers movies after Gabby departed the series. Andy used the
nom de sidekick of "Cookie" Bullfincher. To me, he was second only to Gabby as
a sidekick.

Over the course of more than 80 starring westerns Roy Rogers had quite a few
sidekicks. From the sublime (Gabby Hayes) to the ridiculous (Smiley Burnette
and <Choke! Gag!> Pinky Lee). Some of the others were Raymond Hatton, Pat
Brady, Guinn "Big Boy" Williams and Gordon (Green Hornet) Jones. Andy appeared
in what is arguably the best of Roy's actioners "Bells of San Angelo".

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:17:17 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Temple of Vampires
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>Can anyone tell me when "Temple of Vampires" was originally broadcast?
>

"Temple of Vampires" was broadcast on three separate occasions. First was
from January 22, 1940 to February 16, 1940 over 20 chapters starring Michael
Raffetto (Jack), Barton Yarborough (Doc), and Walter Paterson (Reggie). It
was broadcast again from Aug 22, 1944 to Sep 18, 1944 starring John McIntire
(Jack), Barton Yarborough (Doc), and the character of Reggie was deleted due
to the death of Walter Paterson in 1942. The character of Jerry Brooker
played by Gloria Blondell was substituted. Finally, it was broadcast in the
version most know from Jan 2 to Jan 27, 1950 starring Russell Thorson
(Jack), Jim Boles (Doc), and Tony Randall (Reggie). 

The story is that Carleton Morse was so broken up over the death of Walter
Paterson that he refused to use the Reggie character for some time.

You can hear the latter version from my web site 

[removed]

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          
AOL: JimWidner                            

                                                 

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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:24:21 -0400
From: AndersonCK@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cowboy sidekicks
Message-ID: <960630212420_344717374@[removed]>

The sidekick of Roy Rogers on his 1950s TV show was Pat Brady.  Brady did the
usual pratfalls and drove a WW2 jeep nicknamed Nellybelle.   He was also one
of the many members of the Sons of the Pioneers singing group.  

Rogers' primary saddle pal in many of his Republic movies was George "Gabby"
Hayes who came over to Republic Pictures after being Bill Boyd's sidekick
"Windy" in the Paramount Hopalong Cassidy flicks.   

You can see pictures of both on the Roy Rogers' website:

[removed]

Gene Autry had several screen partners:  Smiley Burnette (while Gene was at
Republic), and Pat Buttram (during Autry's post-war days with Columbia).
  While Autry was away doing duty during WW2, Burnette did some sidekick work
with Rogers. 

Yes, Andy Devine was Jingles in the TV and radio Wild Bill Hickok w/ Guy
Madison.  But Devine also did a stint as the helper in the late 1940s Roy
Rogers Republic films.  

Chuck Anderson

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Date: 30 Jun 96 22:26:50 EDT
From: Steve Lewis <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Cc: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Temple of Vampires
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

The ILAM story "Temple of Vampires" was originally broadcast 1/22 - 2/16/40 with
the original Hollywood cast, and then the story was repeated 1/2 - 1/27/50 with
the New York cast.

Steve Lewis  

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