Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #144
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Date: 4/16/2002 8:30 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 144
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Joe Rines Transcriptions?             [ Donna Halper <dlh@[removed]; ]
      Otr News groups                       [ Glenn Alexander <glenn31313@[removed] ]
      Blondie                               [ dltnkt@[removed] (Dennis/Nancy Town ]
      New Appreciation for OTR              [ Bob Fells <rfells@[removed]; ]
      Re: Eddie Cantor SHows From the 1930  [ gad4@[removed] ]
      Penny Singleton                       [ "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet. ]
      Blondie on TV                         [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      Joe Palooka                           [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
      Barfield's Book                       [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Boxing-Themed OTR                     [ "Michael DeLisa" <mike_delisa@hotma ]
      Eddie Cantor shows                    [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Re: Early Cantor                      [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Join the Thursday OTR Chat            [ Christopher Werner <cwerner@globalc ]
      Tradeing on cassettes                 [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      English and the Lone Ranger           [ "Arte" <arte@[removed]; ]
      OTR Conventions                       [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Eddie Cantor                          [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      More on Blondie (Penny Singleton)     [ "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@ezlin ]
      The Three Stooges on Radio            [ Dennis DeMarco <dennisdm@earthlink. ]
      Saving money                          [ Zharold138@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:17:03 -0400
    From: Donna Halper <dlh@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Joe Rines Transcriptions?

    A producer for NPR has contacted me (and probably some of you too) about
    whether any transcriptions exist of a 1930 program sponsored by Durkee's
    Marshmallow Fluff (and featuring a studio band, led by Chester Gaylord and
    Joe Rines, called the "Flufferettes").  The show was called the "Book of
    the Moment Drama" and was a comedy skit, a paraody of current book reviews
    on historical topics; it aired on various Yankee Network stations and may
    also have aired in NY.  I was able to find out that the show's theme song
    was "Sweeter than Sweet", and in the first show, in January of 1930, some
    of the songs reflected some use of the word "sweet"-- such as "Lovable and
    Sweet," and "I'll Be Seeing You Again"-- from the Broadway show Bitter
    Sweet.  But I have no idea if any of these songs are available or were
    recorded by anyone.

    I guessed that transcriptions of these old shows are probably not in
    existence, but I had no idea if any recordings by the Flufferettes,
    including the theme song "Sweeter than Sweet" exists anywhere.  I went
    through an archive of Joe Rines memorabilia at the Boston Public Library,
    but while it contained some of the scripts for the "Book of the Moment
    Drama", it did not have any recordings.  If any of you good folks have
    suggestions about where Joe Rines' programs sponsored by Marshmallow Fluff
    could be found, that would be a sweet deal!!!

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:17:08 -0400
    From: Glenn Alexander <glenn31313@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Otr News groups

    Hi can anyone tell me which newsgroups are available
    for down loading otr programs?
    Thanks
    Glenn

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:49:16 -0400
    From: dltnkt@[removed] (Dennis/Nancy Townsend)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Blondie

    If the IMDB is correct Penny Singleton is still with us! Her BD is
    listed as 9-15-08. Seems she had quite a career in vaudeville at one
    point singing and dancing with Berle and later in life became a union
    president leading a strike of the Rockettes.

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:03:26 -0400
    From: Bob Fells <rfells@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  New Appreciation for OTR
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    Short comment on some of the recollections by Mr. Bartell and others on
    how little they realized future generations would appreciate OTR: I have
    a Tex & Jinx show from 1954 where Fred Allen is guest.  I can't quote
    his exact words, but FA laments that his seasons on radio were gone and
    forgotten and future generations would never hear his broadcasts.  Yet
    FA apparently knew that recordings of his many seasons were very much in
    existence.  Perhaps he couldn't conceive of the interest by future
    generations to hear them or that modern technology would facilitate the
    distribution of his shows.

    Sadly, FA sounded rather depressed making these observations so I hope
    that, somehow and somewhere, he has the satisfaction of knowing that all
    of us here in the "future" are still listening!

    Bob Fells

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:56:26 -0400
    From: gad4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:   Eddie Cantor SHows From the 1930s

>     Hello everyone!  I am trying to find and acquire Eddie Cantor shows, and I
>     want particularly to acquire those from the 1930s but I will eagerly snap up
>     the later stuff, too.

    Jim,

    Fortunately, a lot of his early shows do exist. Brian Gari, Eddie's
    grandson, has released a set of about 6 or 8 shows from the early thirties.
    The set is commercially available and I have bought it from him.  Hopefully,
    he will decide to release more to the community.

    George

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:56:42 -0400
    From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Penny Singleton

    Penny Singleton (aka Dorothy McNulty) was more than an actress. As Vice
    President of American Guild of Variety Artists (AGVA), she led strikes to
    improve the working conditions and pay of theatre artists. She also helped
    beak the Mafia's hold on AGVA and it's surprising that she's lived to see
    94! (Her next birthday will be Sept 15.)

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:57:33 -0400
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Blondie on TV

    According to Anthony Tollin's notes for another Radio Spirits collection,
    'CBS's 60 Greatest Old-Time Radio Shows' while Penny Singleton played
    Blondie on the radio show at the beginning the role was eventually taken
    over by Patricia Van Cleve (Lake's real-life wife) and Ann Rutherford.  The
    show was on for 11 seasons, ending in 1950, the same time period of the
    Blondie movies.

    The rest of my information is not from Tollin.   Penny Singleton is still
    alive and well at 95.   Her last TV appearance was on an episode of 'Murder
    She Wrote'.   And she provided the voice of Jane Jetson for the Jetson TV
    series.  But what I remember well about her and especially respect about her
    is her union activism.   In the 60s she became the first woman President of
    AGVA, the  American Guild of Variety Artists after serving as VP.   The
    union had been controlled by the mob and she took them on, at some danger to
    herself apparently.     She was one tough lady.  One of the most resistant
    employers was Radio City Music Hall on which AGVA eventually called a strike
    in the late 60s which lasted 2 months.   The Rockettes used their legs for
    walking the picket lines!  This strike was successful and Radio City finally
    negotiated.  All of her efforts ended with  members regaining control of
    their union and gaining improved working conditions.  The nature of the
    victory was that AGVA gained recognition of producers and nightclubs as
    employers and thereby contributions to Social Security and unemployment and
    pension plans were instituted, which they never had before.    She then was
    responsible for opening the first AGVA branch in Las Vegas which brought the
    same benefits to performers there.    AGVA actually shut Las Vegas down.
    This was followed by the first ever strike against Disneyland by its
    performers in 1970, which was also successful.  Disneyland would hire
    college kids as entertainers in the summer and provide them room and board
    and college credit rather then decent wages.

     She was considered to be a shrewd businesswoman and was not only
    responsible for effectively raising the concept and issue of 'residuals',
    but responsible for the term itself, and had a 'residuals' clause written
    into her 'Blondie' contract.

    The Blondie TV series was on briefly in 1957.    Penny Singleton was then 51
    years old.     After the end of the film series in 1950 she didn't look back
    and started a night club act and went back on the circuit.   Quite a woman.

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:11:05 -0400
    From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Joe Palooka

>     April 12, 1932 - The thrill-comedy, "Joe Palooka", which would also be
>     a popular comic strip, made its debut on CBS.

    Actually, the JOE PALOOKA comic strip came first. It began April 1930.

    Bhob @ FUSEBOX ONLINE COMICS @
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:03:47 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Barfield's Book

    Kevin Michaels asks how Tom Heathwood, Ron Sayles, and I became
    contributors to Roy Barfield's entertaining book, "Listening to Radio,
    1920-50".

    I guess only Roy would know how he located and selected those who became
    contributors. Like Tom and Ron, I am pretty well known in the  OTR
    community. For me that's based upon my OTR research, my editing of NARA
    NEWS in years past and current editing of RADIO RECALL. I didn't know
    Roy personally but he may have attended one of my presentations at the
    Friends of OTR Convention in Newark.

    I do know that he  was trying to get a balanced cross-section of
    people's OTR memories that would cover most regions of the US in his
    book so I shared my recollections of my boyhood in the Fox Valley area
    of Wisconsin in the 40s.

    Jack French

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:03:58 -0400
    From: "Michael DeLisa" <mike_delisa@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Boxing-Themed OTR

    Well, using the resources I found from this list, I have made very good
    headway compiling a list of boxing-themed radio shows.

    I have started to post the list at --

    [removed]

    E. McCloud previously gave info on the Amos & Andy sequence from 1941.

    I also discovered Streamload and other sources to acquire copies, which has
    really been helpful.

>     >From the titles, I suspect all of the following are boxing-themed also; if

    anyone know of available copies I would appreciate it --

    Boston Blackie
    Bosb [removed] Ep027 Boxer's Murder Case MP3 [removed] MB

    Bright Star
    Bright Star - 521225 10 The Boxer MP3 [removed] MB

    Broadway is My Beat
    530110 - Lona Hanson & The Fighter Broadway Is My Beat MP3 [removed] MB

    Halls of Ivy
    50-05-24 021 THE FIGHTING MED STUDENT   MP3 [removed] MB

    Lux Theater
    360907 - Is Zat So - James Cagney Lux Radio Theater MP3 [removed] MB

    Nightbeat
    028 Gunner's Last Fight   MP3 [removed] MB

    Richard Diamond
    08-02 [removed] Max Farmer, Boxer Richard Diamond 50 MP3 [removed] MB

    Saint
    Saint 500723 Fighter's Contract   MP3 [removed] MB
    Saint 500611 Prize Fighter   MP3 [removed] MB

    Thank you all again for indulging this admittedly narrow research project.

    Mike DeLisa
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:03:19 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Eddie Cantor shows

    Bryan Gari Eddie Cantor grand son had over 1 thousand of the transcription
    disc of Eddie radio works.  He has put some of the out on CD, and you can go
    to Eddie Cantor web site and buy them.  The last time I talk to Bryan he was
    listen to many of the East verse We coast broadcast, and trying to figure
    out what to release next.  He told me it might be a while because he is
    working on a musical base upon his grand father two auto biography.  It was
    Jerry Lewis wife who had control of the transcription disc for many years
    and she got in touch with Bryan after he appeared on a TV show to find out
    if he would like to have them.   Thos of you going to the convention this
    week end have allot of fun for us who are not going.  Ruta Lee who got her
    start with Burns and Allen is this Sunday guest on Yesterday USA.  Take
    care,

    Walden

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:40:29 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Early Cantor

    Jim F wrote:

>     I am trying to find and acquire Eddie Cantor shows, and I
>     want particularly to acquire those from the 1930s but I will eagerly snap up
>     the later stuff, too.  I find Cantor's humor and family-styled humor to be as
>     refreshing now as it was back then, and he was a superb singer.  Does anyone
>     know where I may find his shows?

    You'll want to look for a 2-CD set released a few years ago called "The
    Eddie Cantor Chase & Sanborn Radio Show," (Original Cast Records OC-8715)
    containing a nearly-complete 1931 program -- the earliest Cantor
    broadcast known to survive -- and several 1933 programs. The set was
    produced by Brian Gari, Cantor's grandson, from original uncoated
    aluminum discs in the family archives. These are the Jimmy
    Wallington/Rubinoff-era programs, and mark the peak of Cantor's radio
    popularity. The set will run about $30 from any of the online music
    dealers -- but is well worth it.

    The 1931 program is a fascinating relic -- it's just a few weeks into
    Cantor's first season on the program, and the glass curtain sealing off
    the audience at the New Amsterdam Theatre studio is still firmly in
    place. While in general I'm not fond of loud studio audiences, Cantor is
    one performer who desperately needed one to perform to his full ability
    -- and the 1933 programs show what happened when the glass curtain was
    opened. (One of the programs in the set is in fact the first Cantor
    broadcast from NBC's new Radio City studios.)

    There are also a number of Cantor's 1936-38 programs for Texaco floating
    around, but your enjoyment of these will depend on your having a high
    level of tolerance for Bobby Breen. Plus Jacques Reynard is no Rubinoff.

    Also circulating is a late-night CBS broadcast of the 10/28/37
    testimonial dinner marking Cantor's 25th anniversary in show business --
    and if you can find a copy of this it's well worth it, because it
    contains what may be the funniest spontaneous ad-lib I've ever heard in
    an OTR program: when it's the turn of Bill "Bojangles" Robinson to speak,
    he steps to the podium, surveys the assembly of Cantor's friends, family,
    and colleagues -- Jessel, Benny, Jolson, Goldwyn, etc. -- and brings down
    the house by casually observing, "Well, it looks like I'm the first
    Gentile up here this [removed]"

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:18:47 -0400
    From: Christopher Werner <cwerner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Join the Thursday OTR Chat

    No, it is not Wednesday. I know you have been looking forward to the weekly
    reminder of the Thursday night chat, but you'll have to wait until tomorrow
    for that.

    I wanted to personally encourage those of you who have resisted the urge to
    try IRC chat to take the plunge *this week*. It only requires installing a
    single little program and it will give you access to a mountain of
    information from your fellow hobbyist's instantly.

    The Chat sessions are an extension of this wonderful e-mail digest. For
    example, if you were to go back to last Thursday's digest you would read a
    posting of a funny story about ordering Jell-o and receiving tomato aspic.
    Those of us who joined the chat room were treated to dictionary definitions
    of 'aspic', firsthand comments of those who have actually tasted the stuff,
    and even a recipe for making tomato aspic! Didn't see it here in the
    digest, only as part of the chat room.

    Do you have a burning question for Hal Stone or Harry Bartell or even our
    hostmaster Charlie? Are you too shy to ask it here where the words are
    archived forever? Come to the chat room, they would be happy to respond
    (sometimes Hal's jokes are even better). Wondering what Charlie does around
    8:30 on Thursdays evenings? Wondering when your tape order will be
    finished? Ask the dealers and get an instant reply.

    Learn about geography, find out who enjoyed their vacation the most, find
    out who had what for dinner, find out if OTR fans in Arizona have a winning
    ball team. It's all there on Thursday night. Lois Culver (the host of the
    chat room) and others spice up the evening with selected OTR sound files.
    We are treated to instant URLs to supplement the topics (like the picture
    of the bilby to illustrate Ian's Australian Easter discussions or a great
    site on A-, B-, C-, D-, and K-Rations last week).

    Come, get educated, laugh hard and long, appease your curiosity, and have
    fun with all of us on Thursday nights.

    Do it.

    Chris (CalLemon)

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:00:09 -0400
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Tradeing on cassettes

    Hello-

     I am looking for someone to trade OTR on
    cassette.  I am looking for comedy and mystery. I have
    a large variety in my collection.  Thank You!!  Lynn

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:00:40 -0400
    From: "Arte" <arte@[removed];
    To: "OldRadio Mailing List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  English and the Lone Ranger

    When I was in grammar school, my English text book one year
    had an illustration that I have never forgotten. It was a
    picture of two children watcging television. The caption
    said, "A word you have never seen may be one you have often
    heard." And on the screen was "The Lone Ranger."

    Arte
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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:32:29 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Conventions

    Several issues ago, Don asked about upcoming conventions.  Lou Genco's web
    site has a place for conventions to be added for updating. I have added a
    number of them and you can also access Lou's page via a link on the front
    page of my own web site:

    [removed] and look for the box labeled "Radio Conventions" near
    the lower half of your screen.

    For those who want to go via Lou's site directly, the link is:

    [removed]

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:43:22 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Eddie Cantor

    Jim F asks:
     >>>>! I am trying to find and acquire Eddie Cantor shows, and I want
    particularly to acquire those from the 1930s but I will eagerly snap up the
    later stuff, too. <<<<

    One of the best sources of material are the CDs produced by Brian Gari,
    head of the Eddie Cantor Appreciation Society (and Eddie's Grandson).  I
    have three of his CDs including shows from the 1931-33 Chase & Sanborn
    "Eddie Cantor Radio Show." Which lists the contents as "the only known
    recordings of the first radio shows that Eddie Cantor did for NBC."  Some
    are only pieces as that is all Brian had, but it is all beautifully restored.

    The Society can be contacted at:
    14611 Valley Vista Blvd.
    Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
    [removed]

    Brian (along with the family) owns all the rights and he produces regular
    CDs of material.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:24:36 -0400
    From: "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  More on Blondie (Penny Singleton)

     In OTR Digest #142 A. Joseph Ross, [removed] wrote:

>     Arthur Lake DID appear as Dagwood in the 1950s TV version of Blondie, with
>     Pamela Britton as Blondie.  The show even started with Dagwood (Lake) saying,
>     "Uh uh uh, don't touch that dial!"  The question isn't whether Lake died
>     before the TV series, but whether SIngleton did. The show didn't last long,
>     from January to September 1957.

    I saw Penny Singleton & Meredith Macrae (wife of Gordon) in
    a USO show shortly after I arrived at K47 Air Force Base,
    Chunchon, Korea in October 1953. Penny Singleton born
    Dorothy McNulty on September 15, 1908 is still very much
    alive at 93. She joins a list of many other notable & famous
    people who are well into their 90's such as Bob Hope - 98
    Strom Thurmond - 99, Max Schmeling - 96, Gertrude Ederle -
    95, Katherine Hepburn - 94 just to name a few. For a list of
    these and many more go to this web site:

    [removed]

    Don Dean N8IOJ     (see you at Cincinnati)

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:24:51 -0400
    From: Dennis DeMarco <dennisdm@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Three Stooges on Radio

    Hello all,

    Am just finishing up a new biography of "The Three Stooges" by Jeff
    Forrester which is quite good.

    Anyway, the author mentions that the stooges made some radio appearances in
    the 30s, including some with Ted Healy.

    Does anyone know what shows they were and if they exist?

    Thanks,

    Dennis

    Visit my Jack Benny Web Page: [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:38:21 -0400
    From: Zharold138@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Saving money

           Hi Anybody,
      I'm planning to go to the Seattle OTR Convention the end of June and I'm
    looking for some one to share hotel expenses for the weekend.
      I'll be at the Cin City Convention this week so you can contact me there or
    E-mail me at: zharold138@[removed].
                       Till Next Time,Harold

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    Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:19:20 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From the NYTimes/AP --

    1935 - "Fibber McGee and Molly" premiered on the NBC Blue Network.

      Joe

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