Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #191
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 6/14/2001 9:10 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

    ------------------------------

                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 191
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     Re: OTR Voices                       [Cnorth6311@[removed]                 ]
     Frances Langford                     [William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];]
     Dealers                              ["Diane Hutchins" <hutchins@[removed]]
     Take my reassembly, [removed]        [JackBenny@[removed]                  ]
     Re: WrongNumber                      [sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn) ]
     Radio Spirits                        ["Panke, Dan" <[removed]@[removed]]
     Suspense Air Dates; "Our Miss Brooks [Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]]
     San Quentin on the Air?              [SacChief@[removed]                   ]
     [removed]             [SacChief@[removed]                   ]
     Supertition Mountains & Old Time Rad ["Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed];  ]
     LONE RANGER and RAY BRADBURY sightin [SanctumOTR@[removed]                 ]
     as the world turns                   ["glen" <gschroeder10@[removed];     ]
     As promised  - the  "Sorry, Wrong Nu ["[removed] Wolfe" <rjrmemorabilia@yahoo.]
     Gotham Radio Players Live!           [StevenL751@[removed]                 ]
     Ben Lyon & Bebe Daniels              ["Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed];  ]
     Throckmorton Place                   [JimInks@[removed]                    ]
     re: Crumit, etc.                     ["J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];]
     Bob Hope and Herb Shriner            [KENPILETIC@[removed]                 ]
     Re: Sorry Wrong  Number              [OTRChris@[removed]                   ]
     OTR photo source                     ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
     "Sorry, Wrong Number"                [Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]]

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:54:58 -0400
    From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: OTR Voices

    This is probably an impossible question to answer, but I have to try. The
    question is about the voice of an actor who appeared on several shows in the
    late 30's. He appeared on quite a few Shadow programs with Orson Wells, and I
    also heard him on the Terry and The Pirates show. He always plays the heavy.
    I recall one Shadow episode in particular. The show was titled "Death From
    the Deep" and he played the foreign agent who was behind the torpedoing of
    commercial ships. His voice is so distinct that it is impossible to not
    recognize him in any show. It is a high pitched voice and I have heard him do
    many accents. In the Terry and The Pirates show he played a Chinese General,
    again a bad guy.

    You folks are good, but this may be asking to much of even you. I realize I
    have not given you much to go on, but he was a radio character actor for I
    have never heard any credits for him. He is like the deep voiced actor who
    used to appear on "The Lone Ranger."

    Charlie

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:25:43 -0400
    From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Frances Langford

    Thought you all would be interested in legendary movie and radio star
    Frances Langford. She is a native of my town, Stuart, Florida, and she
    has been making the front page of the local daily newspaper for over a
    week now. Her peacocks have been annoying the neighbors with their noise.

    Her estate is downstream and on the opposite bank of the St. Lucie
    (navigable) River from us. She is the widow of Ralph Evinrude.

    About a half dozen neighbors complained that the noise from the peacocks
    kept them awake at night, and wanted them to go. However, the rest of the
    community went to her defense, flooding the newspaper with letters in her
    support, suggesting that the complainers be the ones that should leave.
    She is well loved here and she is a constant supporter of community
    affairs.

    By the way she owns a new 90 foot ocean going yacht , which replaced the
    old one lately, so don't worry about her well being!

    Bill Murtough

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:38:46 -0400
    From: "Diane Hutchins" <hutchins@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dealers

        Hi.  I just signed up.  I am relatively  new at OTR collecting. I am not
    interested in trading, just in buying.  I was wondering if  anyone could
    suggest some reliable dealers, who have good quality products and services.
    Thank  you.   Nathan Hutchins

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:10:21 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Take my reassembly, [removed]

    Just my $.02 on the question of whether to paste openings/closings/etc. onto
    shows for which they are [removed]

    Someone came to me a while back with a mystery.  They had a Jack Benny
    program, but couldn't find a date on it.  I asked for the usual information,
    like guest stars.  They sent me the list of stars, and I knew that at least
    two of them had never been on a regular Benny show.  To make a long story
    short, we spent about two weeks E-mailing back and forth, going over any cues
    in the script that would point to an era, what regular cast members appeared,
    etc.

    Finally we decided that someone must have gotten hold of an extended Benny
    guest shot on a show like "Command Performance", decided it was a Benny show,
    and spliced in the opening, closing, etc.  I'm sure it was done with good
    intentions, but it took a lot of time to determine what had probably happened.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:31:04 -0400
    From: sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: WrongNumber

    SORRY! I mentioned Wrong Actress, It was Agnes Moorhead not Mercedes Mc
    Cambridge in Wrong Number picture with Berne Surrey, sound effects man!
    Ray.

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:31:06 -0400
    From: "Panke, Dan" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Spirits

    I'm sure this has been asked before but doesn't it seem odd that an
    individual or organization can lay claim to something they don't own?

    Correct me if I'm wrong but, it seems to reason that if I have an OTR show
    in my library that only I possess a copy of in the world I may not have the
    rights to do anything with it.  From what I understand Radio Spirits could
    come after someone circulating such material even though Radio Spirits have
    no access to a copy themselves.  Bizarre.

    Dan Panke
    [removed]@[removed]

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:34:06 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Suspense Air Dates; "Our Miss Brooks"

    Both Martin Grams who wrote SUSPENSE: Twenty Years of Thrills and Chills
    (Morris Publishing,1997) and Tom Price (co-writer of the classic HEAVENLY
    DAYS), who compiled "The Ultimate Log of Suspense,"  which he released  in
    1987,  agree that there were a total of 8  "Suspense"  renditions of
    Fletcher's radio play, "Sorry,Wrong Number."

    They also  agree on the  air dates: 5-25-43;   8-21-43;   2-24-44;
    9-06-45;   11-18-48;   9-15-52;  10-20-57;  and 2-14-60.

    So, it must be true, right?

    + +++

    What  I enjoy are the unexpected surprises in an old-time radio broadcast.
    A good example would be an episode of "Father Knows Best," in which Robert
    Young alludes to President Truman's distress over a music critic's comments
    about his daughter. It brought the house down.

    Last night, I listened to the May 28, 1950,  broadcast of "Our Miss
    Brooks."  At the end of the show, in character, Eve Arden announces her
    summer replacement as an  "up and coming young comedian" named Steve Allen.
     That was real treat.

    Dennis Crow

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:53:07 -0400
    From: SacChief@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  San Quentin on the Air?

    After a brief and undistinguished career as a radio announcer in Northern CA,
    I switched to the criminal justice field, first as a cop, later as a
    probation and parole officer, and today as a consulting criminologist. When I
    wrote my master's thesis, one of my subjects was the wartime broadcast series
    called "San Quentin on the Air" . It was a remote out of the prison, carried,
    I believe, by KFRC in San Francisco. The show was produced entirely by
    inmates, many of whom were very talented. The "commercial" consisted of a 3
    minute talk by Warden Clinton Duffy, who told about the inmates' efforts in
    collecting blood for the Red Cross, working on scrap collection drives, etc.
    I later became acquainted by Duffy, who became a member of the CA parole
    board and who is now deceased. HE helped me with my thesis, and told me that
    he had, personally, selected the show's theme song which was "Time on My
    Hands". All of the musicians were inmates, and the announcer who was
    particularly good, got a job at some N. Ca station when he was paroled, but,
    alas, he wrote some more bad checks and went back to the slammer!  Anybody
    remember this program or know anything about it?   bob keldgord

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:53:05 -0400
    From: SacChief@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed]

    Folks in N. CA may want to check out this website. It's a bunch of veteran
    broadcast types from the San Francisco area--not all "on air" types. One has
    to have 20 yrs in the business to belong, and they have a bunch of social
    events. A roster of their membership is on the site. A similar group is now
    being organized here in Sacramento, which is CA's capital and about 90 miles
    NE of San Francisco. During the hot summers, especially when CA is
    experiencing a "rolling Brownout" with no electricity, we Sacramentans say
    that we're 90 miles from SF, 90 miles from Tahoe and 2 feet from hell! bob
    keldgord

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:55:03 -0400
    From: "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Supertition Mountains & Old Time Rad ["Mike
     Kerezman"

    I would also call your attention to the 1950 Vincent Price movie "The Baron
    of Arizona" related to a hoax concerning the Peralta grant.
     KTAR, Phoenix and attendant network had a terrific (well at least this
    teenager thought) history program called Arizona Adventure which featured
    programs around the people and events such as: Steamboats on the Colorado
    River which no longer reaches the Sea of Cortez, Cochise, the Earps,
    friends and enemies, Hi Jolly the camel driver for the failed Army
    experiment of using camels as pack animals in the Arizona desert (too rocky
    for their feet),Nelly Cashman who left Tombstone for the Yukon gold rush
    and of course Jacob Walzer and the Lost Dutchman mine in the Superstitions.
    These programs are probably lost to the ages. I doubt that Fannins Bu-gas
    (the sponsor) exists and fifty years later everybody at the station would
    probably say "Huh"
    The overture to the Flying Dutchman does not conjure up a ship fighting the
    waves at sea but the Arizona desert, the Superstition Mountains and the
    anticipation of a rifle shot and an announcer saying "ARIZONA ADVENTURE"
    Ed Kindred

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:12:36 -0400
    From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  LONE RANGER and RAY BRADBURY sighting, GOLDEN
     AGE of OTR collections

    A month or two back, a lister asked if anyone had seen the new RSI 60-show
    LONE RANGER and OLD-TIME RADIO SCIENCE FICTION SHOWS SELECTED BY RAY BRADBURY
    collections at any of the discount membership warehouse chains like Sam's
    Club or Costco.  I'm happy to say that I just saw both collections at a Sam's
    Club in Austin yesterday (and purchased cassette sets of each . . . at only
    $[removed] each, less than half the list price of $[removed]).  The BRADBURY set
    includes audio and written forewords by Ray, and both collections contain
    64-page historical program books by yours truly.

    Speaking of which, we really are living in the Golden Age of Old-Time Radio
    and classic comic strip/book collections.  I remember what it was like back
    in the 1970s when it was a big thing when another SHADOW, LONE RANGER,
    SUPERMAN or JACK BENNY OTR LP record appeared in the stores . . . usually for
    around $[removed] for two half-hour shows.  Today, a quarter century later, the
    general public can pick up digitally remastered collections for under a
    dollar per half-hour show (and less than 50¢ a show at the discount
    warehouses).  Up until a few years ago, the commercial recordings of THE
    ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN would usually contain a few unrelated serial episodes
    . . . no complete storylines.  And the other option, even as recently as five
    years ago, were runs of dubs off the same murky-sound SUPERMAN recordings.  I
    really love the Smithsonian set of the entire "The Atom Man" storyline (which
    sounds like you're in the studio with the actors thanks to the labors of
    Chris Lembesis and Roger Wolski) and the RSI 119-show SUPERMAN collection . .
    . and they'd have an honored place on my bookshelf even if I hadn't been a
    part of those collections.    And while I may be a bit prejudiced as the
    author of the historical booklets, I'm sure I would have been thrilled back
    in the 1970s and 1980s if similar books had been included with background on
    the shows, cast IDs and photos of the performers.  (BTW, people like Bill
    Nadel and the Gassman brothers provide an invaluable service in identifying
    the actors' voices and cluing the rest of us in as to who is doubling which
    characters, etc.)

    Same with the archive editions of classic comic books and comic strips.  It's
    wonderful to be able to obtain hardcover reprints of the earliest runs of the
    SUPERMAN comic books and newspaper strips, BATMAN, Will Eisner's SPIRIT, Jack
    Cole's PLASTIC MAN, Simon & Kirby's CAPTAIN AMERICA, the EC LIBRARY, Ditko's
    SPIDERMAN, Kirby's FANTASTIC FOUR, the Kitchen Sink Press collections of Al
    Capp's LI'L ABNER, NBM's reprints of Caniff's TERRY AND THE PIRATES and
    Manuscript Press' full-size reprints of Hal Foster's PRINCE VALIANT.  And
    it's wonderful to be able to read such material in an archival form where one
    doesn't have to worry about damaging some pricey collector's item. --ANTHONY
    TOLLN

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:49:52 -0400
    From: "glen" <gschroeder10@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  as the world turns

    Hi all.

    Someone recently said that Bill Johnstone who played the Shadow and a lot of
    other otr parts also played on As The World Turns. I know that As is a TV
    show but my question is simply who did Bill Johnstone play on the soap opera
    for all those years. I watched the show when I was younger and that's why
    I'm curious.

    Glen Schroeder

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:04:32 -0400
    From: "[removed] Wolfe" <rjrmemorabilia@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  As promised  - the  "Sorry, Wrong Number"
     broadcast dates

    Hey Gang, As promised here's a complete list for all
    the broacast dates of "Sorry, Wrong Number:"
    May 25, 1943 East Coast Version
    May 25, 1943 West Coast Version
    August 21, 1943
    February 24, 1944
    September 6, 1945
    November 18, 1948
    September 15, 1952
    October 20,
    AND
    February 14, 1960

                     You see, this is way everyone needs a
    concise log with correct dates and episode information
    because it's the only accurate way to keep track of
    what we have. The information that "RJR" has should be
    shared and shortly it will be.
                                   Now it's time for one
    more shameless plug about "The Chattanooga Old Radio
    Club." It's the best club around and when "RJR" is
    back up and running again I plan to an exclusive flyer
    in with our bi-monthly publication and offer all club
    members an exclusive 20% discount on any merchandise
    bought from "RJR." But it's going to take until at
    least mid-September or early October before things are
    up and running again. You can contact the President of
    the "Chattanooga Radio Club, "Beautiful" Bob (His
    wife's nickname for him is "Rapid Robert but I don't
    know why) at badaxley@[removed] and trust whenever
    I say, He ain't so bad. His second in command,
    "Gentleman Jim Adams" is now back on line also. You
    can reach "The Bald God" (his wife's nickname and
    again I don't know why!) at adams256@[removed] and
    either of these two fine gentleman and former friends
    will be glad to E-Mail or snailmail you any
    information that you might want.
                                   One last little thng
    before I go. Agnes Moorehead was the most prolific and
    talented actress to ever grace the radio airwaves. Do
    you ever stop and think that she could've done the
    "Sorry, Wrong Number" role 3 or 4 times without ever
    missing a beat? By the way, There is another episode
    of another series that had me confused like this for a
    long time. (Some people say I'm still confused!) It
    was "The Magic Christmas Tree" on "our Miss Brooks."
    The two copies I have are 99% alike. Same script, same
    jokes, same acting, same voice inflections etc. It
    took listening to the two tapes 5 or 6 times before I
    finally realized why they were two totally different
    broadcasts. The answer lied within the kiss that "Mr.
    Boynton" gave "Miss Brooks." In the 1949 version there
    is absolutely NO audience reactin whatsoever but when
    Jeff Chandler kisses Eve Arden in the 1950 version the
    audience goes bananas and that's what told me that
    they were two different broadcasts.
                        Good night all, and don't forget
    to fill up "Beautiful Bob" and "The Bald God's" E-Mail
    boxes with inquieries and they can both tell you how
    the revivial of "RJR" is going - if they're still
    willing to speak to me!

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:30:41 -0400
    From: StevenL751@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gotham Radio Players Live!

    The Gotham Radio Players
    present

    LIGHTS OUT!
    "Vendetta"

    Live!
    This Sunday, June 17
    7:30pm (Eastern)
    WBAI, [removed] FM in NYC
    [removed]
    Live!

    "That night I was on the roofs, roaming.  Our moon was up in a black sky
    bitten with stars.  And a bitter cold wind kept the whole thing polished.  I
    was on the roofs, exploring for food, nosing into the cold wind, an
    interesting roof with many levels and many places, walking always into the
    wind to keep it from ruffling me.  On the wind came an odor of [removed]  Rare,
    interesting food, like I had found once in a tall can in the small street
    back of a house.  Food.  And I went in that direction.  Over the roofs, up
    and down and around, and the scent of food grew stronger.  Ahead of me was a
    ledge the jutted out to within half a leap of an open window.  That was where
    the food smell came from.  In the room there was light and warmth and the
    smell of [removed] and two beasts growling at each other.  I edged closer to
    the window and [removed]"

    So begins the tale of [removed] a cat who finds himself involved in a
    kidnapping.

    Join us on Sunday as the Gotham Radio Players bring you the latest of our
    ongoing series of recreations of the lost programs of LIGHTS OUT!   This time
    we bring you "Vendetta", heard for the first time since its original
    broadcast on June 7, 1939.  Tune in and hear us live this Sunday evening,
    June 17, at 7:30pm (eastern) on WBAI, [removed] FM in New York City, or over the
    web everywhere else at [removed].

    The Gotham Radio Players were formed in 1991 by a group of enthusiasts for
    the heyday of radio drama. Our mission is to bring new productions of classic
    radio
    programs of the 30's, 40's, and 50's to the airwaves of the new millennium,
    as well as showcase original scripts written by the emerging audio dramatists
    of today. Now under the leadership of producer Max Schmid and director Steven
    Lewis, the Gotham Radio Players are featured regularly in live performances
    on WBAI-FM, at the annual "Friends of Old-Time Radio" Convention, and at other
    personal appearances in the New York City metropolitan area.

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:35:30 -0400
    From: "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ben Lyon & Bebe Daniels

    American movie stars of the 20s & 30s Ben & Bebe lived here in England for
    many years and between 1950 and 1961 had a very popular comedy radio show
    with their children. "Life With The Lyons" ran for over 300 episodes, of
    which I have 86, most of which came from Australian transcriptions, but
    there might be more circulating. I believe a large collection is in an
    archive somewhere. If anyone has any will they contact me [removed]'s a very
    funny show and the scripts by Bebe are very sharply written.

    On a different topic, I recently wrote that the BBC were looking for lost
    radio & tv comedy shows when the tapes were re-used. Among the missing shows
    were 5 episodes of the comedy show "Dad's Army" which American readers might
    have seen or heard. Two were handed in to the BBC having been thrown out in
    the 1970's from a viewing studio and "recovered" from the trash can by a
    studio worker who took them home. He couldn't play them at home but kept
    them in his attic until his daughter made him throw them out when he moved
    into a retirement home. Rather than destroy them he gave them to a friend,
    and it was this man, in his 80s, who contacted the BBC. The two TV episodes
    have already been digitally re-mastered and will be screened in the next few
    months. So things do get re-discovered ! Now how about the lost Hancock's
    Half Hour shows, especially those when Tony Hancock fled to France and Harry
    Secombe subbed for him ?

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:19:44 -0400
    From: JimInks@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Throckmorton Place

    In an interview with Hal Peary (not done by me), he related that the "P"
    stood for "Place."  He named the character Throckmorton P. because Hal
    Peary's home address at that time was on Throckmorton Place.

    I know there's an episode where Gildy gives another name for the "P', but I
    don't recall what that was now.

    -Jim Amash

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:19:46 -0400
    From: "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Crumit, etc.

    Michael Biel wrote:

> >     Frank Crumit and Nat Shilkret recorded the song around that time

>     Great guess.  The recording date is July 12, 1928

    Thanks for the specific date.

> >     (possibly on cylinder first, before 78rpm).

>     Why would you think that?  This is very, very late for cylinders--production
>     ended the following year at the only company still making cylinders, Edison.

    Because I didn't know the specific date "Nagasaki" was recorded -- and knew
    that some of Crumit's recordings went back much further -- such as his 1920
    rendition of "Oh By Jingo, Oh By Gee":

    	[removed]

>     Neither Crumit or Shilkret ever made cylinders.

    Which is why I used the word "possibly" <grin>.  I yield to you as the
    authority on this (unless someone challenges you, hehe).

> >     I have a copy of that version which is pretty, shall we say,
> >     "musty," ran it through my Dolby unit,

>     Why?  Dolby decoding should only be used if the recording has been
>     encoded with Dolby.  It is not meant for reducing noise on anything but
>     something that has been mastered with the process.

    What it is "meant for" is all well and good.  All I know is that the input file
    was incredibly noisy and the output file was not.  Of course, noise reduction
    utilities can only do so much ... depending upon the quality of the input file
    (as listening to "Oh By Jingo, Oh By Gee" clearly demonstrates).

    Regards,
    J. Alec

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:19:48 -0400
    From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bob Hope and Herb Shriner

    Hi Gang -                   June 14, 2001 - Thursday - 5:30 PM cdt

    In issue 190, GA Wolfe wrote regarding The Bob Hope Show:

>       ... You're not going to find very much Bob Hope material
>           because of one little thing - he didn't keep his discs.
>       ... less than 50 of them known to exist because he didn't
>           keep his records.

    Not quite exactly true.   According to Jay's book, there are over
    100 Bob Hope Shows in general circulation.  I have at least 17
    of those programs in my personal collection.    I can't vouch for
    quality - some may have been recorded off the air.

    ---  New Topic --  Herb Shriner

    Also according to Jay's book, there are two "Two For The Money"
    programs in circulation.  Does anybody know who might have
    them and be willing to trade?

    Contact me privately about either Hope or Shriner.  Thanks

    Happy Taping --  Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois
    kenpiletic@[removed]

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:52:01 -0400
    From: OTRChris@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Sorry Wrong  Number

    Ray Erlenborn writes:

     << Suspense originated in Hollywood.
     We did an East Coast show and 3 hours later did a west coast show.
     That's why both shows were identical! >>

    The above memory is from the period  when the show came from Hollywood.
    When the series began in 1942  it originated from New York airing Wednesdays
    and then later on Tuesdays at  9:30 PM EWT.  The  shows during this period
    were done
    only once airing out west at 6:30 pm  PWT.
    When ROMA WINES became the sponsor the  show aired Thursday Nights at 8PM
    in the east. The interesting thing is that the repeat show was not done until
    the following Monday at 12 midnight. My local west coast station of the time
    picked up
    the latter feed for a Monday night at 9pm airing (Pacific time).
    In my collection I have "Donovan's Brain"  in two parts . One of the parts
    clearly mentions the show as being on Thursday and the other part declares it
    as Monday .
    So obviously in my collection one was taped from the Monday feed and the
    other from  the Thursday one. At some point during  the ROMA  WINES years the
    repeat performance was moved to 12  midnight on the same Thursday  as the
    radio logs from the west coast in 1946 show SUSPENSE at 9pm Thursdays .
    A few years later it was back to a one performance show when it aired
    Thursdays  at 9PM Eastern  /6PM Pacific for  AUTO LITE.

    -Chris

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:52:04 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR photo source

    Bob Omhardt asked for a source of OTR photos for books or book projects.

    For anyone looking for a source of photos, whether it is for a project or
    just to collect,
    Contact Howard Mandlebaum at:

    Photofest
    32 East 31st Street
    5th Floor
    NY, NY 10016
    photofst@[removed]

    Tell Howard I recommended you.  Just e-mail or write, letting him know what
    you're looking for, and he'll get back to you.  He is a great
    supplier/dealer of photos with a large collection, and works with anyone
    with odd requests.  Wonderful man to deal with.

    Martin Grams, Jr.

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:52:39 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Sorry, Wrong Number"

    The research on "Sorry, Wrong Number," which Martin Grams compiled for his
    informative book, quotes director  Bill Spier's wife, June Havoc.   "Here's
    something you probably didn't know.   'Sorry, Wrong Number'....Bill put the
    ending on it." [SUSPENSE: 20 Years of Thrills and Chills; Morris
    Publishing, 1997], p. 51.

    Martin goes on to say, "The twist ending to 'Sorry, Wrong Number' as the
    play is well known for, was not the original ending. Bill Spier made a few
    minor adjustments to the script, as he did for all submitted scripts, and
    the rest as they [removed] history." [Ibid.]

    I'd be interested in Martin telling us what the original ending was , if
    June Havoc confided this information to him.  I have always accepted the
    ending to the radio play as totally Lucille Fletcher's creation.

    Dennis Crow

    --------------------------------
    End of [removed] Digest V01 Issue #191
    *******************************************

    Copyright [removed] Communications, York, PA; All Rights Reserved,
      including republication in any form.

    If you enjoy this list, please consider financially supporting it:
       [removed]

    For Help: [removed]@[removed]
    To Unsubscribe: [removed]@[removed]

    For Help with the Archive Server, send the command ARCHIVE HELP
      in the SUBJECT of a message to [removed]@[removed]

    To contact the listmaster, mail to listmaster@[removed]

    To Send Mail to the list, simply send to [removed]@[removed]