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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 389


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 re: Scarest show?
	 OTR in cyberspace, Take II
	 Real Audio and Sperdvac
	 How thoughtless of me
	 From "Weird Circle" to "NBC Short Story"?
	 Philip Marlowe log, part 1

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Date: 14 Nov 1995 08:45 GMT
From: Henry Brugsch <henry@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: 
Subject: re: Scarest show?
Message-ID: <11141995084505um@[removed]>

I have already submitted an example, but here's another.
How about "The thing at the Top of the Stairs."
I mean the Escape, Antony Ellis version.
At the time of its running, I was on a house on the Cape when I first
heard it.
The sounds of thee weird music and the sea pounding somewhere used to
cause me to leave the room, turn off the radio anything.
Of course, Mursedes McCambridge made it all work.

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   Henry Brugsch
   aka hbj elsewhere, CIS: [removed]@[removed], hbj@[removed]
Give me an alias long enough and I'll mail the world

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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 07:27:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: WMACKEY@[removed]
To: otr <otr@[removed]>
Subject: OTR in cyberspace, Take II
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I was really pleased yesterday to find Chuck Shaden's Nostalgia Digest 
for December and January had arrived and to find a article by Richard 
Kunz "Old Time Radio in Cyberspace" and much of it was about this 
digest.  

A very good article Richard, if you are lurking.  If you aren't lurking, 
a good article anyway.  :)

Joe Mackey

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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:17:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Roger Bullis <rbullis@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Real Audio and Sperdvac
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Jim posted a question about RealAudio.  First, if you use Netscape or one 
of the big-name graphical browsers it's real easy to add the program to 
your configuration list.  Second, in the new version of Netscape ([removed]) 
RealAudio is supported and I believe bundled with it.  I don't think the 
sound quality is as good as StreamWorks, another real-time audio player 
on the net.

Add this begs the question.  Why aren't OTR fans putting programs out on 
the net in one of those formats?  Is it a copyright issue?  I'd consider 
putting a few test programs up if there are guaranteed "public domain" 
programs out there but I'm new to all of this and unfamiliar with OTR 
copyright legalities ( and yes I've read Marv Bensman's article at the U 
of Memphis).

One final dumb question from this new until now silent lurker.  There's 
been lots of Sperdvac bashing on this list for the four weeks or so that 
I've been reading, but little info about how to join except one posting 
with a snail-mail address.  Can someone provide info about the precise 
annual fee, e-mail addresses or web-site info concerning Sperdvac?

Thanks in advance


		Roger Bullis   (rbullis@[removed])
 			Division of Communication
	University of Wisconsin, Stevens Point, WI  54481 USA

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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:34:14 -0500
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: How thoughtless of me
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Well I guess Marty Tabnik sure put me in my place. Of course there are a few
essential pointsthat need clarification. First of all Marty, I'm
un-employed which pretty much precludes long distance calls to Ralston
Purina. It also rules out becoming a stock holder. Since I can't purchase
stock there's not much sense in attending their next annual meeting (not that
I could afford that either).

As for R-P, as owner,being allowed to do whatever they want with their
property, including nothing. I consider that a crap attitude. If they don't
want to do anything with it, why can't collectors? You should try and
remember if it wasn't for collectors/hobbyists there would be no OTR. And you
wouldn't be reading this digest. And we'd all be poorer for for the loss. It's
been the collectors who preserved OTR, not the OWNERS. They could care less.
They've proved it time and again. I live in the Cincinnati area and am
familiar with the Vic & Sade/P & G horror story. Hundreds if not thousands,of
transcription disks straight into the dumpster. Yessir, them OWNERS are
really concerned about our OTR heritage.

Do you really think R-P is going to get any additional milage out of Tom Mix?
You really think Tom could be a viable commodity in the 90's? Only to guys like
me who never outgrew their love of cowboys. And there ain't a whole lot of
us left. But the disks are their property aren't they? So they can just let
them sit around and slowly turn to dust. And then they'll be gone and no
one will ever hear them again. All thanks to corporate stupidity and
shortsightedness.

Since you want to side with these guys, I have no empathy with you. Worse, I
don't understand your attitude at all.

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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:30:31 -0600
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: From "Weird Circle" to "NBC Short Story"?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Frank Passage just posted a log for The Weird Circle.  In the log I noted a
couple of titles, "The Bell Tower" and "The Tapestry Horse."  This leads me
right back to a question I posted about 4-6 weeks ago, to which I got no
reply.  The question was this:  I have a few shows of the series "NBC Short
Story," and have heard several more.  Among the shows I taped and kept were
the two story titles listed above.  
It seems to me that this series is actually a _rebroadcast_ series, in that
the introductions have no music and seem to be very quickly thrown
together; they then fade into the story proper, which always has full
musical accompaniment and in general sounds as if it were recorded under
very different circumstances.  Dunning's book gives some particulars of
this show but says nothing about its being an anthology of older programs. 
But the evidence to my ear is very strong that it's just that.
The question, at last:  Does anyone know the true history of NBC Short
Story, to confirm or deny my feeling?  
Thanks,   
John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:02:02 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Philip Marlowe log, part 1
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

        T H E   A D V E N T U R E S   O F   P H I L I P   M A R L O W E
        -----   -------------------   ---   -----------   -------------
 
                                  1947 - 1951
 
 
     First Show: 06-17-47 (NBC)                        Last Show: 09-15-51
     Number Shows: NBC - ??                        Audition Show: not known
                   CBS - 115
 
 
     Show Description:
 
     These Raymond Chandler stories were first brought to the air by NBC
     and starred Van Heflin as Marlowe.  It may have been a Summer re-
     placement show.
 
     On September 26, 1948, Gerald Mohr became the second Marlowe but this 
     time over CBS stations.  It remained a CBS show through its last show 
     in 1951.  In the April 11, 1950 show, "The Anniversary Gift", William 
     Conrad substituted for Mr. Mohr, becoming the third person to play the 
     lead role.
 
     The CBS show ran 2 seasons, from September 26, 1948 through September
     29, 1950.  During 1949, it was a regular on Saturday.  In 1950, it
     started on Saturday, changed after one month to Tuesday, did a few 
     months on Wednesday and finished the 1950 season on Friday.  It appeared 
     again in 1951, possibly as a summer replacement, for a brief run from 
     July 7 through September 15.
 
 
     List Comments:
 
     Only Radio Memories and Great American Radio catalogs mentioned show
     numbers.  They agreed until number 44.  By the Radio Memories catalog,
     there is no show on 07-30-49 and has only 103 shows in this series.
     Great American lists 104 shows.  I've used the Great American numbering
     for now, guessing that normal runs were 52 shows per year.  Two years
     would make 104 shows.
 
     I found only 3 NBC shows in all the catalogs I have.  There are 29
     show titles missing from my catalogs.  It may be that these are not
     available.  They are shown with "?????" in the Title field.
 
     There was one show, "Trouble Is My Business", listed in 3 catalogs
     with no date.  I suspect it may be the NBC "Trouble in High Places"
     (08-05-47).  Until that's verified, I will place it after the last
     CBS show.
 
 
     List of NBC Version:
 
         Date   Da  Num  Title                                 Src Key
         -----  --  ---  ------------------------------------  -----------
         1947
         06-17  Tu    1  Red Wing (First show)                 1  45   9AB
         06-24  Tu    2  ?????
         07-01  Tu    3  ?????
         07-08  Tu    4  The King 'n Yellow                    1  45   9AB
         07-15  Tu    5  ?????
         07-22  Tu    6  ?????
         07-29  Tu    7  ?????
         08-05  Tu    8  Trouble In High Places                   4
 
     List of CBS Version:
 
         Date   Da  Num  Title                                 Src Key
         -----  --  ---  ------------------------------------  -----------
         1948
         09-26  Su    1  Red Wind                              1  45 789AB
         10-03  Su    2  The Persian slippers                  1  4    9AB
         10-10  Su    3  The Panama Hat                        1  4 6  9AB
         10-17  Su    4  Where There's A Will                  1  45   9AB
         10-24  Su    5  The Heart Of Gold                     1  4 6  9AB
         10-31  Su    6  ?????
         11-07  Su    7  ?????
         11-14  Su    8  ?????
         11-21  Su    9  ?????
         11-28  Su   10  The Hard Way Out                      1  4    9AB
         12-05  Su   11  ?????
         12-12  Su   12  ?????
         12-19  Su   13  ?????
         12-26  Su   14  The Old Acquaintance                     45   9AB
 
         1949
         01-08  Sa   15  The Restless Day                      1 3456789A
         01-15  Sa   16  Black Halo                                  789AB
         01-22  Sa   17  The Orange Dog                         34     9AB
         01-29  Sa   18  ?????
         02-05  Sa   19  ?????
         02-12  Sa   20  The Lonesome Reunion                          9
         02-19  Sa   21  ?????
         02-26  Sa   22  ?????
         03-05  Sa   23  The Friend From Detroit               1  4 6  9A
         03-12  Sa   24  The Grim Hunters                      1  4 6  9A
         03-19  Sa   25  The Dancing Hands                     1  4 6  9A
         03-26  Sa   26  The Green Flame                          456  9A
         04-02  Sa   27  The Last Laugh                        1  4 67 9A
         04-09  Sa   28  The Name To Remember                  1  4 67 9A
         04-16  Sa   29  The Heat Wave                         1  4 6  9A
         04-23  Sa   30  The Cloak Of Kamehameha               1  4 6  9A
         04-30  Sa   31  Lady In Mink                              5  89A
         05-07  Sa   32  The Feminine Touch                    1  4    9A
         05-14  Sa   33  The Promise To Pay                    1  4    9A
         05-21  Sa   34  Night Tide                            1 34  7 9A
         05-28  Sa   35  The Ebony Link                        1 34  7 9A
         06-04  Sa   36  The Unfair Lady                       1  4  7 9A
         06-11  Sa   37  The Pigeon's Blood                    1  4  7 9A
         06-18  Sa   38  The Busy Body                         1 34  7 9A
         06-25  Sa   39  The Key Man                           1 34 67 9A
         07-02  Sa   40  The Dude From Manhattan               1 34 67 9A
         07-09  Sa   41  ?????
         07-16  Sa   42  The Headless Peacock                  1 34 67 9A
         07-23  Sa   43  ?????
         07-30  Sa   44  ?????
         08-06  Sa   45  The August Lion                       1 34 67 9
         08-13  Sa   46  The Indian Giver                      1 34 67 9A
         08-20  Sa   47  The Lady Killer                       1 34 67 9A
         08-27  Sa   48  The Eager Witness                     1 34 67 9A
         09-03  Sa   49  The Bum's Rush                        1  4 6  9A

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