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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 283
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  I stand corrected                     [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  This weekend with Walden Hughes       [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
  Frank Nelson                          [ "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed] ]
  Re: Eddie Green                       [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  Re: Chester's Last Name               [ DRutsala@[removed] ]
  David Kiner                           [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  This week in radio history 8/28-9/4   [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Software MP3 player                   [ Timothy Clough <timothy@[removed]; ]
  Bob & Ray & McCarthy & [removed]     [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  8-29 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: Rooney Redux                      [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
  Re: Anarchy                           [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:50:28 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  I stand corrected
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I'd like to thank my ether-pals Michael "Mr. Dragnet" Hayde and
Chris "No Known Sobriquet" Chandler and others  for setting the record
straight about my original posting in which I chronologically inverted the
events involving Lucille Ball's run-in with columnist Walter Winchell and
her TV pregnancy.

Mea culpa and I humbly stand corrected.

Best always from the ether,

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:25:01 -0400
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  This weekend with Walden Hughes

 Yesterdayusa can be heard on the internet at [removed]

 This weekends  line up is:

Friday 8-27-04

 A.  Celebration  of  Amos and Andy's  75th  birth on NBC radio .  Frank
Bresee will present
      his  interview with the announcer Bill Hay.

 Saturday 8-28-04

 A.  Walden interviews  singer Roberta Lynn.   ( [removed])
 B.  Classic Interviews :   John Dunning with Les Tremayne.

C.  Bill Bragg and Walden interview  Jimmy Lyndon. (taped ) .

Sunday 8-29-04
A.  Mike Biels .
B.  Laura Leff presents Jack Benny ----appearance on Lux Radio Theater
      from 9-26-38.
C.  A mix of OTR including Fred Allen, Fibber Mcgee and Molly, Great
    Gildersleeve, and One Man Family
D.  Classic Interviews:   Richard Lamparski  interview with Butterfly Mcqueen

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:25:21 -0400
From: "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Frank Nelson

Hi all,

I recently saw a movie trailer on TCM and the announcer's voice sounded
familiar.  My wife said "that sounds just like Frank Nelson", and it did.
Does anyone know if he did travelogues or trailers or anything like that, he
had the perfect voice for it.
I meant to write in on the Sam McGee thread but Derek Tague beat me to it.
When I read 'Sam McGee' I too thought of Robert Service's [removed]
Derek.
Now Sam McGee was from Tennessee where the cotton blooms and blows, why he
left his home in the south to roam 'round the pole God only knows.

Roby McHone
Fairbanks, Alaska

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:27:34 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Eddie Green

Thanks a bunch for all the great information about Eddie Green!  Wow!  Considering how little
there was about him on the internet, you guys are amazing to have come up with all this stuff!

Let me add my own little two cents worth:

I became an Eddie Green fan when I heard his stand up routine about his mother-in-law moving into
his home (Jubilee #122/218, February 20, 1945.)  Comedians have probably been doing mother-in-law
routines since the invention of language. But Eddie's 1945 routine actually made me laugh out
loud!  Then, in the same show, he sang a duet with Ernest "Bubbles" Whitman on the novelty blues
tune "One Meatball".  Although Whitman had most of the lines, it was Eddie's perfect comic timing
that made the song come alive.

According to [removed] Eddie performed "Jonah and the Whale" on Jubilee #136 June 4,
1945, "The Courtship of Miles Standish" on Jubilee #139 June 25, 1945 and "The Story of the World
based on the Bible" on Jubilee #154 October 29, 1945.

And thanks to Eddie Green I have now discovered the joys of "Duffy's Tavern".   

I'm black, by the way, but I'm not at all offended by Eddie's "Lightnin'-like" shtick.  Somehow he
brings an edge to it that lets you know that he's not quite as slow as he might seem on first
impression.   Like he always seems to get in the last zinger during his repartees with 
Archie on "Duffy's Tavern."

And now that I've read about his many talents, I'm even more impressed that he chose to play a bit
of a dimwit.   To be as successful as he was, I'll bet he was every bit as sharp as Stan Laurel or
Jerry Lewis when he wasn't acting.

So now one last request - does anyone have a photograph of the man?

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:25:28 -0400
From: DRutsala@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Chester's Last Name
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Please forgive such an obvious question that I'm sure was brought  up
and hashed out ages ago.  But I hope someone can explain about  the
use of "Good" and "Proudfoot" at different times/shows (radio,  TV).

According to Parley Baer, he came up with the name Chester Wesley Proudfoot
in an ad-lib, and CBS was concerned he'd assert his rights to the name if they
 used it on the TV series.  Or so he's said in interviews.

Seems like there might be more to the story.

Anyone?

-- David

[removed] And Chester last name proves there were Hobbits in the old west.
Something I always knew.  :)

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:26:06 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  David Kiner

Hi Everybody,

does any one know how I can get in touch with David Kiner in order to obtain
a copy of his entire catalog?  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:07:06 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history 8/28-9/4

 From Those Were The Days --

8/28

1922 - The first commercial to be broadcast on radio was heard on WEAF
in New York City. Announcer [removed] Blackwell spoke about Hawthorne Court,
a group of apartment buildings in Queens, New York. The Queensboro
Realty Company, of Jackson Heights, bought what was called Toll
Broadcasting. WEAF, owned by AT&T, sold their block programming, five
one-minute programs, one a day for five days, for $50 plus long-distance
toll fees. The Queensboro Realty Company paid $100 for 10 minutes of
commercial airtime.

 From The [removed] --

1938 -- The first degree given to a ventriloquist's dummy is awarded to
Charlie McCarthy--Edgar Bergen's wooden partner. The honorary degree,
"Master of Innuendo and Snappy Comeback," is presented on radio by Ralph
Dennis, the dean of the School of Speech at Northwestern University.

8/30

1951 - Screen Directors' Playhouse was heard for the final time on NBC.
  The program had featured some of the biggest stars in Hollywood.

8/31

1941 - The Great Gildersleeve, a spin-off of Fibber McGee and Molly,
started on NBC.

1946 - "Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's Superman!"
Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound ... the caped crusader
returned to radio on the Mutual Broadcasting System. Superman had been
dropped from the program schedule earlier in the year, but the outrage
of youngsters brought the show back to the airwaves. Wow! The amazing
power of Kryptonite in the hands of kids! Bud Collyer, later of TV's
Beat the Clock, played Clark Kent aka Superman on the series. His
identity had been well guarded for years. Most people didn't have a clue
as to the identity of Superman until a TIME magazine article about
Collyer appeared in 1946.

9/2

1931 - 15 Minutes with Bing Crosby debuted on CBS.

   Joe

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:54:00 -0400
From: Timothy Clough <timothy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Software MP3 player

I have a couple of friends who live together that enjoy the Gunsmoke
television series, and I thought it would be a good idea if I shared
MP3s of the radio series with them. Also, one of them and another friend
of hers enjoy horror movies, so I thought to share MP3s of Suspense with
them.

This leads to my question. They own a used, Windows 95 computer with a
Pentium MMX processor, 16 or 32 MB RAM (I forget which), and limited HD
space. I am looking for an MP3 player that would play on such a setup.
I've looked at the winamp website, but their newest program requires a
newer computer, and I can't find any access to older software.

Does anybody have any ideas for a good MP3 software player that works on
such legacy equipment? Or, if possible, where can one download a legacy
copy of winamp?

Thanks in advance.
Timothy Clough

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:54:21 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bob & Ray & McCarthy & [removed]

In our ongoing investigation of The Investigator, we have forgotten to
include Bob and Ray's gripping account of the 16-story apartment complex
built in a residential area without regard to the zoning restrictions of
Skunk Hollow.  The investigation went on for several weeks.  And I guess it
followed the TV and radio antics that we were entertained with during the
Army-McCarthy hearings in 1954.
    Unless you are a Joseph McCarthy fan, if you want to have some good
laughs, listen to Bob and Ray's treatment of the zoning issue.  Thankfully,
they did not mention the Communist scare!

Ted Kneebone/1528 S. Grant [removed], SD 57401/605-226-3344
Campaign: [removed]
OTR: [removed]

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:20:10 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  8-29 births/deaths

Please note that Ingrid Bergman died on her birthday

August 29th births

08-29-1882 - Richard Legrand - Mount Tabor section near Portland, OR - d.
6-29-1963
actor: Richard Q. Peavy "Great Gildersleeve"; Ole "Fibber McGee and Molly"
08-29-1898 - Preston Sturges - Chicago, IL - d. 8-6-1959
film producer, writer, director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-29-1899 - George V. Denny, Jr. - Washington, [removed] - d. 11-11-1959
moderator: "America's Town Meeting of the Air"
08-29-1906 - Joe Sawyer - Guelph, Canada - d. 4-21-1982
actor: Sergant 'Biff' O'Hara "Rin-Tin-Tin"
08-29-1907 - Lurene Tuttle - Pleasant Lake, IN (Raised: CA) - d. 5-28-1986
actress: Effie Perrine "Advs. of Sam Spade"; Ellie Connors "Lum and Abner"
08-29-1912 - Barry Sullivan - NYC - d. 6-6-1994
actor: Steve Canyon "Steve Canyon"; Simon Templar "The Saint"
08-29-1913 - Sylvia Fine - NYC - d. 10-28-1991
writer: (Wife of Danny Kaye) "Danny Kaye Show"; "Forecast"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
08-29-1914 - Willard Waterman - Madison, WI - d. 2-2-1995
actor: Throckmorton P. Gildersleeve "Great Gildersleeve"; Roger Barton
"Guiding Light"
08-29-1915 - Ingrid Bergman - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 8-29-1982
actress: "Everything for the Boys"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-29-1916 - George Montgomery - Brady, MT - d. 12-12-2000
actor: "Hollywood Star Time"; "NBC University Theatre of the Air"
08-29-1920 - Charlie Parker - Kansas City, MO - d. 3-12-1955
jazz musician: "This Is Jazz"
08-29-1922 - Arthur Anderson - Staten Island, NY
actor: "Let's Pretend"; Mark Davis "Lawyer Tucker"; Buddy "Tony and Gus"

August 29th deaths

02-19-1924 - Lee Marvin - NYC - d. 8-29-1987
actor: "Dragnet"
04-06-1892 - Lowell Thomas - Woodington, OH - d. 8-29-1981
newscaster, commentator: "Lowell Thomas and the News"; "Man with a Question"
05-01-1906 - Rose Hobart - NYC - d. 8-29-2000
actress: "Nightbeat"
08-03-1923 - Jean Hagen - Chicago, IL - d. 8-29-1977
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Stars in the Air"
08-29-1915 - Ingrid Bergman - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 8-29-1982
actress: "Everything for the Boys"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-06-1925 - Jimmy Reed - Dunleith, MS - d. 8-29-1976
blues singer, guitarist, harmonica playere: "One Night Stand"
10-01-1889 - Ralph W. Sockman - Mount Vernon, OH - d. 8-29-1970
preacher: "National Radio Pulpit"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:32:23 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Rooney Redux

on 8/26/04 8:42 PM, [removed]@[removed] at
[removed]@[removed] wrote:

Mike Gwenn raised a wonderful point (that I was initially reluctant to add
to my observations) concerning the reasons for Mickey Rooney's less that
gracious behavior with a fan.

Has it crossed anyone's mind that another aspect of  the chilly 'ya, ya, ya'
response from Mickey could well have been the overly familiar and perhaps
even
startling pronouncement from a stranger as he came down the escalator?

(SNIP> I bet that after spotting Mickey coming their way  the lady had said,
"I know you. You're Mickey Rooney. Thanks for all the great performances,"
she'd have gotten a big smile and a polite > 'thank you' for her trouble.

I totally agree Mike. But in her defense, the shock of encountering Mickey
face to face, and in such a brief moment, probably startled the lady into
saying the first thing that popped into her head. And I'm sure you'd agree,
based on the evidence so far, (and Mick's reputation within the industry
that there's no guarantee that she would have gotten a big smile and 'thank
you' had her greeting been more along the lines you suggest. But I'd bet the
farm that the response to a more sensitive approach by the fan would not
have elicited the flippant ""Yeah,Yeah,Yeah". Mickey can't possibly be that
arrogant.

(SNIP)'typecasting' and over-association with any one character is death to
many an actor's career, and they are to be forgiven for not particularly
liking the public's insistence on reminding them of it.

Particularly in light of the fact that Micky's identification with such
early 'Hardy" films, instead of his body of work in some heavy dramatic
roles as an adult, ("Bill" on TV was a classic) would bug a lot of
performers.

As for me, since I didn't aspire to remain an actor, and went into TV
Production, I can't fault folks for saying (at OTR Conventions) "Oh, look,
there's Jughead"....I'm locked into a time warp. I'll be forever identified
with that teenage role. And I don't resent the familiarity one tiny bit.
What's that old saying? "You can call me anything you [removed] don't call
me late for breakfast".

I love the OTR crowd. And appreciate being remembered. And, fortunately,
there are only one or two "pests" in the hobby. I don't see why I have to be
nice to people like Charlie Summers?.

Just some thoughts from an actor who has been  gifted with many warm
greetings from strangers.

Some beautiful women too!

Drat! And Double Drat!!! I was too young to attract beautiful "women" for
most of my performing career. (Well, maybe there were a few exceptions).
Mostly, I had to content myself with the "Bobby Soxer" crowd. And we
referred to that as "Jail Bait".

Hal(Harlan)Stone
"Jughead"

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:35:16 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Anarchy

Steven Thompson posted

I actually played the "Eddie" part in a re-creation of a Duffy's Tavern
script at the Cincinnati Con about 14 years ago.(Snip)

My director that year kept telling me to add more "dese's" and "dose's" to my
interpretation. I reluctantly did so during rehearsal but, in tribute to Mr.
Green, dropped them out during the actual show.

Yo Steve.

If Bob Burchett ever asks me to direct something at [removed] remind me
never to cast you. :)

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead

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