Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #176
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 5/24/2004 8:44 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 176
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
      The Old Time Radio Gazette            [ "Arthur Funk" <Art-Funk@[removed]; ]
      Sherlock & Tony                       [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      This week in radio history 5/23-29    [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Gene Wood, Game Show Announcer        [ Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@[removed]; ]
      Re: CD Labels                         [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      MP3 player for walking                [ Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed]; ]
      Protecting CDs with stickers          [ "Lou Giliberto" <kd7hcw@[removed]; ]
      kiddie show question!                 [ vigor16@[removed] ]
      Re: [removed] something else I   [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
      It just hit [removed]                     [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
      Gildy the Ice Cream Man               [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
      The Misadventures in Cassettes with   [ "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@peop ]
      Temple of the Vampires                [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Subject: About preserving cds         [ <bruceglazer@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:17:06 -0400
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi friends,

    	Here is this week's line-up for the week of 5-23-04 on my Olde Tyme
    Radio
    [removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
    Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
    Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
    streaming RealAudio at [removed]

    Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

    We look forward to having you join us!

    	Jerry

    Here's this week's lineup:

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

    BEST PLAYS
    Episode 35  5-8-53  "Of Mice and Men"
    Stars: Burgess Meredith and Anthony Quinn
    Author: John Steinbeck

    THE NEW EDGAR BERGAN HOUR
    Episode 11  1-22-56  Guests Rudy Whistler and Cecil Zong (Traffic Expert)
    =======================================

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

    SPECIAL GUEST: Chuck Schaden
    Broadcasting Hall of Fame member, radio historian, Chicago OTR broadcaster,
    and author of the new book, "Speaking Of Radio," Talks with Tom about his 34
    years in interviewing old time radio stars and his recollections in his new
    book. Great sound clips of Jim Jordan (Fibber McGee), Jack Benny, Edgar
    Bergen, Mercedes McCambridge, Bret Morrison, Les Tremayne and others.
    Don't miss this one!
    ========================================

    THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

    It's time for The Glowing Dial's All Star Western Round-Up

    Gunsmoke
    #1 "Billy The Kid"
    CBS 4/26/1952
    with William Conrad, Parley Baer, Georgia Ellis, Don Diamond, Harry Bartell,
    Howard McNear, Richard Beals, Paul Dubov, Mary Lansing. Sustained

    The Lone Ranger
    # 1270 "The Iron Horse"
    WXYZ/ABC 5/12/1950
    with Brace Beemer, John Todd. Fred Foy announcing.
    Sponsored by General Mills

    The Roy Rogers Show
    "The Tall Tale Of Pecos Bill"
    MUTUAL 5/8/1945
    with Roy Rogers, Pat Friday, Bob Nolan and the Sons Of The Pioneers and
    guest Porter Hall.
    Sponsored by Goodyear.

    Gene Autry's Melody Ranch
    "Uncle Billy Harlow"
    CBS 9/19/1948
    with Gene Autry, Pat Buttram, Johnny Bond, Cass County Boys, Pinafores, Carl
    Cotner Orchestra.
    Perry Ward announcing.
    Sponsored by Wrigley Gum

    Frontier Town
    # 24 "Gun Trouble Valley"
    SYNDICATED 3/6/1953
    with Reed Hadley
    ====================================

    Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
    shows.

                Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
      Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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    Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:17:36 -0400
    From: "Arthur Funk" <Art-Funk@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Old Time Radio Gazette
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

    Today while looking for the Moylan Twins on Google for my wife, I came upon a
    website previously unknown to me.  I thought I'd share it here.  Following is
    copy/pasted from their "About Us" page:

    "What began as a demonstration web page, The Old Time Radio Gazette is now a
    center of statistics and information on Radio's Golden Age.
    "Danny Goodwin has been doing research on old time radio, its programs,
    performers, and sponsors since 1988.  With the help of this website, he is now
    presenting his findings on the Internet.   If you're a fan of old time radio,
    this web site is for you.  If you're not, you may find that your interest
    level has increased by looking over the information on this web site."

    Their URL is:  [removed]

    Among other things they have some Hooper ratings information on primetime and
    daytime programming from the 1930s and 1940s.

    By the way, my wife was very pleased at the Moylan Twins stuff I found on
    google.  There was even a clip of them singing their theme song for Thrivo Dog
    Food.

    Regards to all,

    Art Funk

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    Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:19:13 -0400
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sherlock & Tony

    Dear Jim, Derek, & [removed]

    From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];

>     I suppose it is generally known that Randall did not appreciate old time
>     radio at all

    I've heard him say something to the effect that it was "just reading". I'll
    grant that he was a solid actor; I'll also grant that bad radio actors - both
    then, and now -"just read". But boy, that comment speaks more to his own lack
    of respect for the medium than for anything else. Anyone who's listened to
    the likes of Aggie Moorehead, Ray Collins, Joe Kearn, Bill Conrad - and many
    more - knows that they were damn well acting!

>     An even greater talent, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, never fully appreciated his
>     great creation, Sherlock Holmes, either.

    That's often stated, but needs an asterisk. It is indeed true that Doyle
    tired of the character, killed him off, and brought him back mainly because
    of the offer of an embarrassingly large check from America. BUT - by the time
    of the last collection, "The Casebook", just 3 years before his death in
    1930, he had softened enough to refer to Holmes's rebirth in the
    introduction:

    "I have never regretted [removed] These lighter sketches have (not) in actual
    [removed] prevented me from finding my limitations in (other) branches of
    [removed]

    One likes to think that there is some fantastic limbo for the children of
    [removed] Perhaps in some humble [removed] Sherlock and his Watson
    [removed] find a [removed]"

    And here's a good place to thank lister Derek Tague, for coming out to see us
    bring the two out of that limbo last week. In our re-creation of OTR legend
    Edith Meiser's first non-Doyle tale, both the cast and the house seemed to
    enjoy their visit with The Great Detective and The Good Doctor.

    Best,
    -Craig "Sherlock" Wichman

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    Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:19:22 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This week in radio history 5/23-29

     From Those Were The Days ---

    5/23

    1922 - The first debate to be heard on radio was broadcast on WJH in
    Washington, DC. The two debaters argued about the topic of Daylight
    Saving Time with the audience acting as the judge.

    5/26

    1940 - Invitation to Learning was first heard on CBS. The educational
    program ran for 24 years.

    5/28

    1931 - WOR in New York City premiered The Witch's Tale. The program was
    broadcast on the Mutual Broadcasting System (of which WOR was the
    flagship station) where it aired until 1938.

    5/29

    1939 - When a Girl Marries was first heard on CBS.

    1943 - The Million Dollar Band was heard for the first time on NBC.
    Charlie Spivak was the first leader of the band that featured Barry Wood
    as vocalist. The unusual feature of the show was the awarding each week
    of five diamond rings.

    Joe

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    Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:19:53 -0400
    From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gene Wood, Game Show Announcer

    I don't know if Gene Wood did much in the way of radio announcing, but I
    heard a report on CBS Radio's hourly news on Sunday night that Gene Wood
    passed away at age 70, sometime within the past few days. (Some other
    reports I've come across on the Internet say that he was 80).

    There were numerous first-run-syndicated and network TV game shows
    throughout the 1970s and 80s that Gene Wood announced for, and a few
    that he even hosted. Most seem to have been Mark Goodson-Bill Todman
    productions, including:

    Tattletales, Password, Card Sharks, Family Feud, among many others.

    Mark J. Cuccia
    mcuccia@[removed]
    New Orleans LA CSA

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:05:18 -0400
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: CD Labels

    At 10:25 PM 5/23/2004, Jer wrote:

>     Most of my otr cds do not have
>     labels because i have not spent the extra money for such. Instead, i have just
>     labeled them myself using a marking pencil. They are not attractive, but i can
>     identify each. Question: how important is a label? I thought the underside of
>     the cd was what was important to protect, not the topside. Anyone, please
>     advise.

    If you ask six people you will get six answers.

    Labels are a tough question. Some people feel the lacquer surface that
    protects the mirror layer can become damaged by various organic materials
    in the adhesive.

    Writing on a CD is also a tough question. All the authorities say use only
    a water-based felt marker. Solvent-based markers are again thought to
    damage the lacquer layer. The only thing really clear is you should never
    use a pointed or hard object to write on CDs--do not use pencils or
    ballpoint pens for instance.

    I use labels made by Memorex on the theory they know how to make them so
    there won't be a problem.

    I use a Sharpie marker which is usually not recommended, but have no
    failures as a result of doing so. I do let the ink dry before putting the
    disc in an envelope or box. I have several water-based felt tipped markers
    made for marking CDs and don't like any of them.

    The data layer is just under the mirror layer which is on top of the disc.
    The underside of the disc is a simple window and is the least worrisome
    surface.

    Some CD-R blanks have more durable lacquer coatings and advertise them as
    such. I believe these are worth looking for. The discs are still vulnerable
    as the bond between the silver or gold mirror surface and the dye layer is
    poor. This is not a problem in commercial CDs because they do not use a dye
    layer.

    You won't like what a label does in a car player with a front loading slot
    if it should get wrapped around the tiny rubber rollers that load and
    unload the CD. Those loading mechanisms are tough on any CD-R. If you are
    going to use a car player you should expect some wrecked CDs whether you
    use labels or not. Overall, it's a better idea to use a flip-open portable
    with a tape adapter for the car.

    If a label ever comes off the disc, it may remove part of the reflective
    layer rendering the disc useless. Cheap labels just don't make for a good
    economy in my book.

    Labels do provide a measure of protection for the data surface side, but
    the best protection is keeping the CDs in a jewel box. Put labels on using
    a tool and do not try to remove them to reposition them. Do not stack
    unprotected CDs. If you keep your CDs in a slip case, be aware that long
    fingernails can scrape the mirror surface easily.

    When you make a bad CD, save it for destructive testing to see for yourself
    how easily they can be damaged.

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:05:51 -0400
    From: Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  MP3 player for walking

>     Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:04:17 -0400
>     From: Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed];
>     To: [removed]@[removed]
>     Subject:  MP3 player for walking

>     Does anyone know of an MP3 player that will play the
>     slow bitrate OTRs and has an antiskip function that
>     one could use for walking. I have a Rio but its not
>     good for that.

    Gerald,

    I'd suggest you look at the iRiver flash memory
    portables. Even the least expensive model (~$99) has
    128Mb. and plays MP3's ranging from 8Kbps. - 320Kbps.
    Being a flash memory unit you don't have any
    mechanical parts so anti-skip is a non issue. You can
    check them out on their web page.
    [removed]. You can buy direct or through
    [removed] There may be others. You might even get a
    deal on [removed]

    I hope this helps,
    Tom

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:23:16 -0400
    From: "Lou Giliberto" <kd7hcw@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Protecting CDs with stickers

>     From: Jer51473@[removed]
>     Subject:  About preserving cds

>     Instead, i have just
>     labeled them myself using a marking pencil. They are not attractive, but I
>     can identify each. Question: how important is a label? I thought the
>     underside of the cd was what was important to protect, not the topside.
>     Anyone, please advise.

    That is true for commercially pressed CDs.  However, for home-burned CDs,
    you must protect the back (label side) even more.  What looks like the
    Memorex/Maxell/Pick-your-brand is actually the media itself.  You can take a
    CD-R (one that you don't want and can destroy), and scratch off the "paint"
    and you will see the plastic is actually clear.  It's this "paint" that
    stores the data.

    If you write directly on the "paint", it's best to use a non-permanent felt
    marker or grease pencil.  If the ink soaks through, or if you dent the
    surface with a pencil, you will damage the media.

    In some sense, then, a sticker will protect the media on a CD-R.  However,
    it's not critical.  I store CD-Rs without stickers.  More important is that
    if you write on the "paint", be careful what you use.  I use a Flair or
    similar marker usually.

    The same goes for DVD+-R's

    Commercially sold CDs and DVDs are pressed rather than burned, so the paint
    on the back is just that - paint.

    -Lou

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 02:06:45 -0400
    From: vigor16@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  kiddie show question!

            Hi all,

    I have a friend who asked me bout a show I never heard of, though I
    recall something but don't know where.  He recalls a kiddie show when he
    was young 30s to 40s that featured a couple children going under water
    and talking with fish and other marine type animals and having
    adventures.  Sounds like a serial, the way he described it.  He said it
    was real fantacy for kids.  I thought he might have been talking about
    Magic Island, but he said that it wasn't that.  It might have been 15
    minutes in length.  Any of you kid show experts have any ideas.  If not,
    I'll try to get more details this week sometime.
    Deric

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 02:07:40 -0400
    From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: [removed] something else I have been

    Bob Watson wrote:

>     On an entirely different level, I was wondering how many complete evenings of
>     entertainment from OTR's history are out there.

    <snip>

>     I don't mean just one network, but
>     various networks.  Meaning, if I could reconstruct May 22, 1946, at 7:00, I
>     would listen to a program from NBC Blue; at 7:30, one from CBS; at 8,
>     something from Mutual.

    May 22, 1946 actually was not a good day for NBC Blue programming, the
    network having ceased to exist under that name some two and a half
    years prior to that date. :)

    Michael Shoshani
    Chicago

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:23:54 -0400
    From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  It just hit [removed]

    I have occasion to watch Saturday Night Live
    infrequently and realized Don Pardo has been an
    announcer on NBC for quite some time.  He is a real
    holdover.  Some of his earliest experience was as an
    announcer for Eddie Cantor and he's been with NBC for
    60 years, now strictly as an announcer for SNL.  He
    was born in 1918, which makes him 86 years old.  Along
    the way, he was the annoncer on the original Jeopardy
    with Art Fleming as well as the first go-round of The
    Price is Right in 1956 with seemingly the only (or
    main) quiz host, Bill Cullen.  He's well-known for the
    quiz show catchphrase "tell her what she's won"made
    popular by him.  He'd be a good choice
    (if he'd ever attend) the FOTR conventions, or just
    one. Andy Blatt

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:24:37 -0400
    From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gildy the Ice Cream Man

    Funny how some memories hang on, even though they were
    primarily insignificant.

>     >From my adolescence or young adult years there is a

    memory that persists.  And that is my first hearing of
    Gildy's trademark laugh.  It wasn't on OTR, however.
    It was on that successor medium, TV, and even then,
    not on a regularly aired show, but rather a one minute
    commercial.  If I remember correctly, "Gildy" was
    advertising a brand of Ice Cream (I think
    Baskin-Robbins(r)), as an Ice Cream Vendor.  What
    sticks in my mind is the comment my mother made when
    she first saw it.  We were sitting in our living room
    when the commercial came on, my mom reading a book as
    usual, but when "Gildy" laughed his trademark
    rolling-downward laugh, my mom looked up, and with a
    wistful tone in her voice, and a look of fond memories
    on her face, simply said, "The Great Gildersleeve!"

    I suppose the memory sticks because I eventually would
    see that commercial many times, but also because my
    mom's words sounded so strange to a young person
    unfamiliar with the glory days of OTR.  I probably
    said, "What?" but don't remember if I did or not.  Mom
    may have explained who Gildy was, but I don't remember
    that either.  But I do remember the change that came
    over her as forgotten memories came flooding back, and
    the words she spoke:  "The Great Gildersleeve".

    Now, after so long of an introduction, my question is:
    Does anyone else remember this commercial, and was
    this Hal Peary or Willard Waterman?  Both, I
    understand sounded very much alike.

    --Dave Phaneuf

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:36:58 -0400
    From: "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Misadventures in Cassettes with Sherlock
     Holmes

    Many Years ago when My Late father (1939-2002) started collecting OTR in the
    late 1970s,  one of the casettes he purchased was series of casettes called
    RADIO RERUNS which I believe was associated with the now defunct ADVENTURES
    IN CASETTES (Remember those? Where you had to flip the tape over half way
    through a single story as they only had one show per cassette). One of the
    Radio Reruns I remember listening to over and over again growing up was the
    show Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (1955 Sir John Geilgud and Sir Ralph
    Richardson Series) called "The Blackmailer". This series ran for about 16
    shows on BBC and I believe Orson Welles turned up once as the arch nemesis
    Professor Moriaty ("The Napoleon of Crime"). I recently listened to this
    series on collection of Holmes in Mp3 and found that the B;ackmailer show
    from Radio Reruns was missing (or Edited out) a few minutes. What it amounts
    to is a few minutes of dialogue edited out - the brief dialogue of Holmes
    and Waton first meeting in which Holmes says to Watson :"From Afganistan I
    perceive?" Prior to that the Radio Reruns episode leaves out Holmes brief
    discussion of his experiments with regard to Hemoglobin. Later in the
    episode Holmes and Watson conversation regarding Turkish Baths is also left
    out of the Radio Reruns version. The funny things is all this time I never
    realized I was missing anything. Does anyone have an explantion? I know
    there is other shows in the 1955 Series that have small differences in them
    from the way "I heard them on RADIO RERUNS".

    Mike Kerezman
    Macomb, Ok

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:37:56 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Temple of the Vampires

    Regarding the news that there is possibly new ILAM [removed]

    The "Temple of Vampries" serial exists partially, about half of the chapters
    are known to exist.  In 1989, Jim Harmon with the assistance of a West Coast
    disk jockey re-enacted the remaining chapters, the ones that were missing,
    to help fill in the blanks.  What Scott Eberbach was referring to in a
    previous posting about "someone's recreation," is possible, since those
    re-enacted segments have been floating about in circulation in collectors'
    hands for years.  If the are indeed recordings of the "lost" episodes, I
    would strongly recommend supporting Ted and his endeavors to make them
    available by purchasing a complete set of the serial when he confirms and
    releases the serial.  Reason being, "Temple of Vampires" is probably one of
    the top five serials ever done on I LOVE A MYSTERY and holds true to the
    claim that ILAM was one of the best radio programs ever broadcast (not to
    mention that "Temple of Vampires" is also one of the scariest radio
    broadcasts produced).  Like the previous Fu Manchu recordings that Ted
    discovered and released, days after he releases the ILAM serial, there will
    be copies available for free downloads on the web and Ted will never recoop
    the money he paid for the missing chapters of ILAM.
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:39:06 -0400
    From: <bruceglazer@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Subject: About preserving cds

    Regarding the best method to label CD's & DVD's,
    there are many opinions and concerns, including the
    the potential "leak-through" of glue (from labels)
    and ink.

    I recently purchased a "CD-R Pen".  They are
    relatively inexpensive and are intended to be
    safe to use.  I also store my CD's and DVD's
    vertically because that is supposed to be the
    preferred method.

    Bruce R. Glazer

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