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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2008 : Issue 215
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Early Days of OTR Catalogues          [ "Rick Roberts" <rickrob@[removed]; ]
  9-10 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Howdy Doody on the radio              [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  Superman, eating                      [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Howdy Doody On the Radio              [ "Paula Keiser" <pkeiser1@[removed]; ]
  LaFontaine and others                 [ "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
  Mar-Bren & George Fowler              [ Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ros=EDn?= <fra ]
  Don LaFontaine                        [ Paul Adomites <padomites@embarqmail ]

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:22:51 -0400
From: "Rick Roberts" <rickrob@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Early Days of OTR Catalogues
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In the mid 60s [removed] a reel to reel catalog that among many others had
almost every sf show [removed] the X Minus Ones and Dimension [removed]
bought a few on 5' reels since that was the only recorder I had as a [removed]
was 12 when I got [removed] the name of the place was Reel Things but I
might be [removed] remember I found the place by an ad in a comic book
fanzine from Texas. All the SF and horror otr grabbed my attn but they had a
lots of other shows as [removed] could purchase full size reels also.

By the [removed] was the first otr group I discovered on the internet way
back and somehow lost touch with it for about 5 yrs til a friend asked me if
I'd seen [removed] and [removed] going back in time to come back to you
folks. Been lurking for about a yr or so now.

Best
Rick Roberts

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:23:01 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  9-10 births/deaths

September 10th births

09-10-1879 - Jess Pugh - Andersonville, IN - d. 1-22-1962
actor: Scattergood Baines, "Scattergood Baines"
09-10-1885 - Carl Van Doren - Hope, IL - d. 7-18-1950
author/lecturer: "New York Philharmonic Orchestra"; "Words at War"
09-10-1886 - Sam Taub - NYC - d. 7-10-1979
sportscaster: "Madison Square Boxing Bouts"
09-10-1892 - Albin Beck - d. 2-14-1982
newscaster: WKBZ Muskegon, Michigan
09-10-1898 - Adele Astaire - Omaha, NE - d. 1-25-1981
dancer, actor: (Fred's Sister) "Magic Key"; "Savings Bond Campaign"
09-10-1900 - Francis Craig - Dickson, IN - d. 11-20-1966
bandleader: "Spotlight Revue"
09-10-1900 - Joseph Bentonelli - Sayre, OK - d. 4-4-1975
operatic tenor: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Vick's Open House"
09-10-1902 - Jim Crowley - Chicago, IL - d. 1-15-1986
football all-american: (One of the Four Horsemen) "Kate Smith Hour"
09-10-1904 - Emery Deutsch - Budapest, Hungary - d. 4-16-1997
conductor: "Arabesque"; "Let's Pretend"
09-10-1904 - John V. Aspe - d. 1-xx-1973
tenor: WHN New York, New York
09-10-1904 - Lyle Van - Troy, NY - d. 7-22-1997
newscaster: "Lyle Van and the News"
09-10-1906 - Ruth Stafford Peale - Fonda, IA - d. 2-6-2008
religious leader: "The Aldrich Family"
09-10-1907 - Alvin Childress - Meridian, MS - d. 4-19-1986
actor: "New World A-Coming"
09-10-1907 - Fay Wray - Alberta, Canada - d. 8-8-2004
actor: Rosemary "Keeping Up with Rosemary"
09-10-1909 - Raymond Scott - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-8-1994
conductor, composer: "Your Hit Parade"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
09-10-1909 - Ruth Yorke - NYC - d. 12-xx-1980
actor: Jan Arden "Jane Arden"; Belle Owen "Life Can Be Beautiful"
09-10-1915 - Edmund O'Brien - Brooklyn, NY - d. 5-9-1985
actor: Johnny Dollar "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
09-10-1915 - Vivian Della Chiesa - Chicago, IL
singer: (America's Great Lyric Soprano) "American Album of Familiar
Music"
09-10-1916 - Dorothy Lowell - NYC - d. 7-1-1944
actor: Sunday Brinthrope "Our Gal Sunday"; Linda Clark "Hilltop House"
09-10-1917 - Jean Ruth Hay - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-18-2004
disc jockey: "Reveille with Beverly"
09-10-1920 - Vivian Block - Brooklyn, NY
actor: "Let's Pretend"; Ann Weston "Wilderness Road"; "Coast to Coast
on a Bus"
09-10-1922 - Emily Vass - Greenville, SC
singer: (The Vass Family) "The Lady Next Door"; "Kraft Phoenix Program"
09-10-1927 - Gwen Watford - London, England - d. 2-6-1994
actor: "Barnstaple"
09-10-1934 - Charles Kuralt - Wilmington, NC - d. 7-4-1997
sportscaster: "Junior Sports Parade"; "Sports Final"

September 10th deaths

01-04-1917 - Jane Wyman - St. Joseph, MO - d. 9-10-2007
actor: "Dreft Star Playhouse"
01-31-1923 - Joanne Dru - Logan, WV - d. 9-10-1996
actor: (Sister of Peter Marshall) "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-01-1923 - Bobby Jordan - NYC - d. 9-10-1965
actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"; "Wheatenaville
Sketches"
04-12-1907 - Ivan Ditmars - Olympia, WA - d. 9-10-1997
music: "Advs. of Frank Race"; "Dr. Christian"; "Escape"
04-18-1924 - Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown - Vinton, LA - d. 9-10-2005
singer, guitarist: "Newport Jazz Festival"
05-12-1912 - Everett Clarke - d. 9-10-1980
actor: Flamond "Crime Files of Flamond"
05-26-1905 - Fred MacKaye - Hackettstown, NJ - d. 9-10-1980
actor, director: Monk Rice "Point Sublime"; "Lux Radio Theatre";
"Romance"
05-27-1911 - Evelyn Morin - Dunn, IN - d. 9-10-2000
singer: (Morin Sisters) "World of Music"; "Breakfast Club"
06-19-1932 - Pier Angeli - Cagliaru, Saradinia - d. 9-10-1971
actor: "Louella Parsons Show"
08-06-1881 - Leo Carrillo - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-10-1961
actor: Pedro "Grapevine Rancho"; "Four Frightened People"; "Good News
of 1939"
09-24-1927 - Alfred Kraus - Las Palmas, Canary Islands - d. 9-10-1999
operatic tenor: "Metropolitan Opera"
10-02-1914 - Charles Drake - Bayside, NYC - d. 9-10-1994
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
10-16-1891 - Wilfred Lytell - NYC - d. 9-10-1954
actor: Doc Barron "Just Plain Bill"; "Wings Over America"
12-09-1905 - Dalton Trumbo - Montrose, CO - d. 9-10-1976
writer: (member of infamous Hollywood Ten); "Arch Oboler's Plays"
12-13-1904 - George Baxter - Paris, France - d. 9-10-1976
announcer: "Grand Central Station"; "The Career of Alice Blair"
12-30-1885 - Ed Jerome - NYC - d. 9-10-1959
actor: Harry Blackstone "Blackstone, the Magic Detective"; Gregory
Allen "Rich Man's Darling"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:23:10 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Howdy Doody on the radio

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:14:25 -0400
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed];

Is anyone familiar with Howdy Doody on the radio? Everything I can
find on the internet is about the TV show. I have a show from 53-12-24
in which Buffalo Bob says it is the second anniversary of the Howdy
Doody radio show. They go on to say it is Christmas Eve. One confusing
note is that a search of the New York Times radio listings shows Howdy
Doody radio shows from 1948 forward.

What's complicated is that Howdy Doody was on the radio at two
different times.

Howdy Doody originated as a character on Bob Smith's Saturday morning
kids show on WNBC called the "Triple-B Ranch"  (Triple-B for Big
Brother Bob).  The character originally was a country-bumpkin named
Elmer, who greated Bob Smith with "Well, Howdy Doody!"  The kids in
the studio audience called him Howdy Doody, and at some point, Bob
Smith (not yet Buffalo Bob) decided that was a better name.

Since it was radio, they didn't use a dummy or a puppet, so the kids
just saw Bob Smith speaking in a different voice.  The kids
complained that they wanted to see Howdy Doody, which gave Smith the
idea to do television.  The TV show premiered on 27 December 1947.  I
don't know when the "Triple-B Ranch" ended, but it seems to have been
not too long after the television show began.

Howdy Doody's second appearance on radio was the Saturday morning
Howdy Doody radio show, which ran for an hour and started on NBC
sometime in 1951.  After each day's Howdy Doody television show, the
kids were taken into another studio, where segments were recorded for
the radio show.

There was also the weekday morning Bob Smith radio show, which began
sometime in 1953 or 1954 on NBC radio opposite Arthur Godfrey on CBS.
Apparently it did well enough that some portions of the radio show
were re-enacted as the weekday at noon (ET) Bob Smith Show on
television.  This was a pretty grueling schedule for Bob Smith, who
suffered a heart attack over Labor Day weekend 1954.  As I recall the
Howdy Doody radio show disappeared abruptly at that time.  The Bob
Smith radio show continued, with Bob Nicholson hosting, until
December.

I'm sending a copy of this to Jeff Judson, who heads the Doodyville
Historical Society and publishes a monthly newsletter.  If he has any
further information, I'll pass it along to this forum.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         [removed]

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:04:05 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Superman, eating

Did Kal-El alias Clark Kent alias Superman have to eat?

Ron Sayles

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:04:49 -0400
From: "Paula Keiser" <pkeiser1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Howdy Doody On the Radio

Andrew Steinberg wrote:

Is anyone familiar with Howdy Doody on the radio? Everything I can find on
the internet is about the TV show. I have a show from 53-12-24 in which
Buffalo Bob says it is the second anniversary of the Howdy Doody radio
show.

As a child growing up in the WNBC coverage area, I remember hearing Howdy
Doody (not Elmer) on the Bob Smith radio show on Saturday mornings. I was
younger than 8 years old, which dates those shows I heard as prior to July,
1951.  Perhaps the reference Smith made was not to a stand-alone show, but
to the Howdy Doody segments on the Bob Smith show.

Paula Keiser
Topeka, KS

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:11:30 -0400
From: "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  LaFontaine and others

Tom wrote:

Funny, as great as LaFontaine was (and is), when I think of
movie trailers, only one name come to mind: Art Gilmore.

Not to take away from his considerable talent, but LaFontaine, to
me, became something of a cliche ... and I don't meant just the
phrase, "In a world where ...." But otherwise, deep, guttaral,
meanacing ... though he could lighten his voice for comedies.

By the same token, Gilmore was somewhat type-voiced ... at least
I think of him more when it came to the light-hearted sex comedy
(Doris Day, et al) previews rather than something serious. Maybe
as a teenager my mind was more in one direction than the other.

Another voice that comes to mind for previews (that's what we
called them in West Texas 'cause that's what it said on the
screen - "Previews of Coming Attractions!") is Marvin Miller.

Bob Cockrum

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:28:01 -0400
From: Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ros=EDn?=  <frankr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mar-Bren & George Fowler

Great Radio Shows and George Fowler in Washington state was another
first class dealer.

George Fowler moved from Kirkland Washington to Sequim Washington about
30 years ago.  He continued with his Great Radio Shows business until
he became infirm about 10 years ago.  George is still living in Sequim,
a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, but his infirmity
has progressed to the stage where it is difficult for him to
communicate.

His collection of radio material for the Great Radio Shows business is
on reel to reel which he donated to The Radio Enthusiasts of Puget
Sound about 10 years ago.  The reels are in storage along with other
items that have been donated to REPS.  One of the benefits of his
collection was the extensive catalog which gave a paragraph long
description and plot of every single episode he had listed.  At the
present time because of the date and quality of early collections such
as his, much of the material is not up to the standards of today.

Individual episodes are put on CDs on occasion when time permits of
some of the harder to obtain things which are then added to the REPS CD
Library.  You can check it out at [removed].

Frank Rosin

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:23:55 -0400
From: Paul Adomites <padomites@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Don LaFontaine

My brother used to work in LA at a sound studio which produced a lot of movie
trailers, so naturally he worked with Don. David said once during a recording
session he asked Don to "back off a little" meaning to be less forceful with
his reading. Don snorted and said to no one in particular, "This voice can
rip the roof off a Fiat, and he wants me to back off."

Paul Adomites

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