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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 194
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      The Magic Bullet?                     [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      untouchables announcer                [ "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
      What would it [removed]               [ "Grant & Sally Shorten" <shorten@ro ]
      I Could'a Had a V-8 Chip ...          [ Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed] ]
      How quickly they forget               [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      re: Private Eyelashes                 [ Mark Higgins <paul_frees_fan@amerit ]
      A (rare Midwestern) Invite from Crai  [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Privaye Eyelashes In Kenosha          [ ilamfan@[removed] (S Jansen) ]
      Re: "Same Time, Same Station!"        [ "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed]; ]
      If my radio had a V Chip              [ "Dee" <deeatthedigitaldeli@earthlin ]
      7-3 births/deaths                     [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      v chip                                [ "rita powell" <crisco1950@[removed] ]
      Pretty "Bubbles" in the Air(waves)    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Happy little washday                  [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Beverly Sills                         [ Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; ]
      OTR in Dayton this weekend            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:34:24 -0400
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Magic Bullet?

    From: "Ted Kneebone" _tkneebone1@[removed]_
    (mailto:tkneebone1@[removed])

>     What  program would be so good that the theaters in our town would stop the
>     film  and pipe in a radio program -- today?<

    Dear Ted & gang-

    Been saying this for years, but the bait on the hook would be very
    commonsensical:

    Known performers in known pieces (or, "pieces by known authors.")

    I think that - likely in 30m. "weaning" chunks at first - you'd get
    interested listeners with, say-

    -Bruce Willis in a new DIE HARD adventure, ONLY offered on radio
    -Meryl Streep in a Neil Simon play
    -Kirsten Dunst as the heroine of a Stephen King story
    -Sean Connery in A CHRISTMAS CAROL

    -etc.

    THEN, once listeners realized they enjoyed this stuff (they almost always
    do, once you get 'em in the tent - IF the production is well [removed]), you
    could
     broaden the horizons of the same venue/slot.

    Best,
    -Craig

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:34:42 -0400
    From: "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  untouchables announcer

    "belanger" wrote: The voice of the announcer for the late fifties
    TV series THE UNTOUCHABLES sounds familier in regards to OTR. I
    don't mean Walter Winchell, who did the in-story narrations, but
    the regular announcer who introduced and closed out the show
    every week. Does anyone know who it was?

    And I don't have an answer, either ... but wasn't the voice the
    same one that also announced others that were coming from the
    Warner Bros. TV factory for ABC? I seem to recall a similar voice
    for "Surfside 6," "77 Sunset Strip," "Hawaiian Eye," "Adventures
    in Paradise" and "Follow the Sun." Also, maybe "The Fugitive"?

    Bob Cockrum

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:34:57 -0400
    From: "Grant & Sally Shorten" <shorten@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  What would it [removed]

    Ted,
    You can add  "Imagination Theater" on KFMB in San Diego, Sunday evenings
    from 10-11 PM to your list of present day OTR programs that probably would
    NOT be piped into theaters. It is so much like the old days I try not to
    miss it. I am sure someone on the list can tell us where it is produced and
    by whom.
    Grant

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:39:14 -0400
    From: Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  I Could'a Had a V-8 Chip ...

    Stephen Davies asks us to complete,

>     "When I was young, if my radio had a V-chip, I never would have heard
>     ...."

    Actually, most radio shows would be considered "PG" by current standards,
    however, a few Gang Busters, Suspense, and Lights Out individual programs
    might have been blocked.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:39:43 -0400
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  How quickly they forget

>     Garrison Keillor, Paul Harvey, the Tabernacle Choir, or Unshackled.  Those

    are the only "old time radio" programs that are still on the air -- as far
    as I know.

    My friend Ted Kneebone's memory, like mine on many issues, is a tad [removed]

    Again I remind us all of

    The Guiding Light (since Jan. 25, 1937)
    Meet the Press (since 12-1-1946)
    Grand Ole Opry (since 11-25-1925)
    The Lutheran Hour (since 10-2-30)
    Metropolitan Opera (Dec. 25, 1931)
    Hawaii Calls (from 7-5-1935 to 1975, and since 10-3-1992)

    In addition, I believe the CBS World News Roundup and World News Tonight
    also persist.  If so, they date from the very heyday of golden age radio.

    Last year I researched an article that appeared in the September issue of
    the SPERDVAC Radiogram titled "The Top 40" which profiled the 40 most
    durable network radio series.  I included dates of origination and demise of
    the various series.  Amazingly, all 40 of those features persisted 20 years
    or longer.  That seems incredible -- until you study their names.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:40:11 -0400
    From: Mark Higgins <paul_frees_fan@[removed];
    To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  re: Private Eyelashes
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    First, to Kermyt, please apologize to your uncle for my misspelling of his
    name.  As we get older, the eyes are either the first or second thing to go -
    I forget which.
        Also, I failed to mention the group's next production - on Halloween,
    they are doing the Mercury Theatre's version of Dracula at Kemper Hall.  It's
    one of my favorites.  Cyndie and I are already planning to attend.

    Mark Higgins

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:40:41 -0400
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  A (rare Midwestern) Invite from Craig W.

    Dear Friends-

    With thanks for the past  kind words about my work at the Friends of Old Time
    Radio convention, and with  my own group, here's info about an upcoming
    Quicksilver Radio Theater rare  appearance "on the road":

    [removed]

    A very casual event,  that you might [removed]

    All best,
    -Craig

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:42:00 -0400
    From: ilamfan@[removed] (S Jansen)
    To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
    Subject:  Privaye Eyelashes In Kenosha

    I was out in Kenosha for the "Private Eyelashes" OTR recreations, too!

    A very nice time!  My father and I went there together, continuing our
    30-year OTR connection (it's his fault that I like this stuff, he recorded
    CBSRMT and Lights Out reruns in the 1970's, and made us kids listen to them
    ALONE and IN THE [removed]!  Cool.)

    It was great to finally meet Jack French, he graciously signed my copy of his
    book ("Thanks, Jack!").  It's always nice to put faces to the names you see
    on this list - and Jack even looks like his promo [removed] of those
    authors have a nice headshot from 1976 that they continue to use well into
    the 21st century!  And how nice of him to say that I didn't look as old as he
    thought I was, too - I'm not all THAT old, but I'm no Martin Grams, either!
    [removed]'m no Karen Hughes?  [removed]'m no David Thompson?

    WELL -

    Jack's presentation was well done: informative, entertaining, great
    [removed] only problem with it was that it was TOO SHORT!  I would have
    liked more than the 15 minutes we got, but that's just my opinion.  Hey, it's
    always best to "leave'em wanting more", right?

    But we GOT more!  A female Richard Diamond pastiche, complete with LIVE
    saxophone (yeah!) and a fistful of colorful catchphrases.  A quiz show for
    the audience during/instead of intermission with SNICKERS candy bars for
    prizes!  And of course, an episode of Candy Matson (hats off to all of the
    cast and crew, as the entire show was a quality production, but I was REALLY
    IMPRESSED with the actors who played Candy Matson, Rembrandt Watson, and
    Leiutenant Mallard.  Great voices and interplay!)!

    Nothing but an enjoyable time.  A great way to spend an afternoon!  They're
    scheduled to do "Dracula" for Halloween in Kenosha at Kemper Hall - if you're
    able to, you oughhta see/hear it!

    And thanks again, Jack, for the presentation, and for chewing the fat with my
    pop and I afterward!

    Hey, you don't look as old as I thought you would, either!

    Stephen Jansen       8^)#

    --
    Old Time Radio never dies - it just changes formats!

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:24:06 -0400
    From: "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed];
    To: Old-Time Radio Mailing List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: "Same Time, Same Station!"

    On Sun., 01-Jul-2007, at 06:12:11pm EDT (-0400 GMT), <OTRBuff@[removed];
    posted to "The Old-Time Radio Mailing List" under the subject of "Same time,
    same station". My response:

    Although it's not old radio, you do remind me of the Batman TV series, which
    copied from the traditional radio serials and ended with their own slight
    variation -- "Same Bat-Time, Same Bat-Channel!"

    And that brings me to "Lost In Space", which was then competing with "Batman"
    for airtime. When June Lockhart's children began watching "Batman" instead of
    their OWN MOTHER on "Lost In Space", Irwin Allen panicked and turned LIS into
    the same sort of campy nonsense show as Batman -- complete (at least in the
    beginning) with the "Same time, Same channel" tagline, albeit usually visually
    rather than verbally. (For example, you can see it on the ending screen of
    the second episode, as they contemplate landing on a strange planet in order
    to make repairs.)

    We have Batman to thank for the familiarity of the pharase: I daresay that
    without it, it would probably have died out along with OTR itself! But thanks
    to Batman, most people today still have a fondness with the phrase.

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:24:28 -0400
    From: "Dee" <deeatthedigitaldeli@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  If my radio had a V Chip

    I never would have heard "Florida's Treat"

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:24:35 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  7-3 births/deaths

    July 3rd births

    07-03-1878 - George M. Cohan - Providence, RI - d. 11-5-1942
    composer: "Collier Hour"; "Ed Sullivan Show"; "Free Company"
    07-03-1881 - Leon Errol - Sydney, Australia - d. 10-12-1951
    actor, comedian: WENR Chicago
    07-03-1890 - Herbert A. Bell - Rock Valley, IA - d. 1-30-1970
    radio manufacturer: Co-founder of Packard-Bell in 1945
    07-03-1899 - Herb Polesie - d. 6-8-1979
    panelist,director: "Twenty Questions"; "It Pays to Be Ignorant"
    07-03-1900 - John Mason Brown - Louisville, KY - d. 3-16-1969
    host-critic: "Of Men and Books"
    07-03-1903 - John Lake - Leesburg, VA - d. 6-28-1960
    actor: "Gene Autry's Melody Ranch"; "Twelve Players"
    07-03-1903 - Wynne Gibson - NYC - d. 5-15-1987
    actor: Amah "Thanks for Tomorrow"; Angie "When a Girl Marries"
    07-03-1906 - George Sanders - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 4-25-1972
    host: "High Adventure"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "[removed] Steel Hour";
    "Cavalcade of America"
    07-03-1908 - Robert B. Meyner - Phillipsburg, NJ - d. 5-27-1990
    governor new jersey: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    07-03-1913 - Dorothy Kilgallen - Chicago, IL - d. 11-8-1965
    commentator: "Voice of Broadway"; "Breakfast with Dorothy and Dick"
    07-03-1915 - Jerry Gray - Boston MA - d. 8-10-1976
    bandleader: "I Sustain the Wings"; "Philip Morris Frolics"; "Club 15"
    07-03-1920 - Louise Allbritton - Oklahoma City, OK - d. 2-16-1979
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "This Is My Best"; "Cavalcade of America"
    07-03-1930 - Pete Fountain - New Orleans, LA
    dixieland clarinetist: "New Year's All-Star Parade of Bands"
    07-03-1937 - Tom Stoppard - Zlin, Czechoslovakia
    writer: "Earplay Weekday Theatre"

    July 3rd deaths

    02-25-1913 - Jim Backus - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-3-1989
    comedian: Hubert Updike "Alan Young Show"; Chester Fenwick "Sad Sack"
    03-22-1920 - Ross Martin - Grodek, Poland - d. 7-3-1981
    actor: Soap Opera "Janice Grey"
    03-27-1921 - Harold Nicholas - Winston-Salem, NC - d. 7-3-2000
    dancer: (The Nicholas Brothers) "Big Broadcast of 1936"; "Ben Bernie
    Show"
    05-07-1906 - Irving Reis - NYC - d. 7-3-1953
    director: "The Free Company"; "Columbia Workshop"; "Brave New World"
    07-28-1901 - Rudy Vallee - Island Pond, VT - d. 7-3-1986
    singer, bandleader, emcee: (The Vagabond Lover) "Fleischmann Hour";
    Rudy Vallee Show"
    10-08-1919 - Gabriel Dell - Barbados, British West Indies - d. 7-3-1988
    actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"
    10-23-1918 - James Daly - Wisconsin Rapids, WI - d. 7-3-1978
    actor: "Monitor"
    11-16-1913 - Jack "Smilin' Jack" Smith - Bainbridge Island, WA - d.
    7-3-2006
    singer: "Breezing Along"; "Prudential Family Hour"; "Jack Smith Show"
    12-22-1885 - Deems Taylor - NYC - d. 7-3-1966
    commentator: "Deems Taylor Music Series"; "Prudential Family Hour";
    "RCA Victor Show"
    12-24-1920 - John Barron - London, England - d. 7-3-2004
    actor: "Dad's Army"; "Brothers In Law"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:24:44 -0400
    From: "rita powell" <crisco1950@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  v chip

    when i was young i would have never heard the innersancitun my mom sait it
    was too gruesom. by the way i am still 51 years young bill powell

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    Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:55:44 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Pretty "Bubbles" in the Air(waves)
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    Conflicting obituaries that I've already read for soprano Beverly Sills state
    that she acquired her sobriquet "Bubbles": a) from the obstetrician that
    delivered her who noted that she was immediately able to form spit bubbles, or
    b) from her ebullient personality.

    "That ain't the way I heerd it, Johnny, the way I heerd it is [removed]"

    Over the years I was led to believe that when Miss Sills was a teenager, she
    sang detergent  jingles on radio soap operas (or the term that our own Jim Cox
    has revived: "washboard weepers"). Did she really sing the "Rinso White"
    jingle on "Amos 'n' Andy"?

    Students?

    Derek T.

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    Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:09:05 -0400
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Happy little washday

    The death of opera diva Beverly (Silverman) Sills at 78 brings to mind a
    point missed by USA Today's obituary writer and presumably by most others --
    that, at 17, she was chortling "Rinso white ... Rinso bright ... happy little
    washday song" weekday afternoons on CBS's Big Sister.  To the sound of the
    tower clock striking the first four notes of the Westminister Chimes, Jim
    Ameche beckoned listeners with:  "Yes, there's the clock in Glen Falls town
    hall, telling us it's time for Rinso's own story of Big Sister, brought to
    you by the new, soapy-rich Rinso ... R-I-N-S-O."

    He'd deliver the commercial, Sills would sing her little ditty and Lever
    Brothers would hear bells ringing at grocers' cash registers.  That went on
    for some time.  The following year, when Lever was no longer sponsoring the
    drama, she debuted in a small role at the Met in Carmen (1947) where she sang
    her little heart out and with local opera companies in the following decades.

    By the way, a couple of other things about Big Sister (who wasn't, in
    reality, Beverly Sills).  Jim Ameche's deliberate spelling of R-I-N-S-O may
    have taken a full 10 or 12 seconds to deliver every day.  If you don't think
    so, listen to a tape of it.  It had to be one of the slowest spellings of a
    short word in radio history -- and it lasted 10 years!  (That way, of course,
    the scriptwriters didn't have to fill in as much dialogue!)

    After that, when Lever Brothers assigned its funding elsewhere, the narrative
    left the air on Friday, June 21, 1946, only to return on Monday, June 24,
    1946 for Procter & Gamble's Dreft detergent and Ivory soap.  While many
    shows, over their lifetimes, were sponsored by rival firms, there was usually
    a lapse between their underwriting the same show.  This was a flagrant
    violation of whatever unwritten rule might have existed, not unique (examples
    can be given) but then not all that common, either.  Peculiar, you might say.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:10:37 -0400
    From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Beverly Sills
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    Beverly Sills the great Metropolitan Opera singer has passed away on July
    2nd. She sang the original "Rinso White" jingle on the radio in the 1940's.
    She was a young radio performer and often appeared on Major bowe's Original
    Amateur Hour."She was a very nice lady and was known as "Bubbles." She gave
    of her time to many Cancer and other worthwhile [removed] can read her
    obtiuaryat [removed].

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    Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 20:09:55 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR in Dayton this weekend

    Don Ramlow will be directing an old-time radio recreation this weekend at
    Pulpcon.  Anyone attending can try out for a part.  He has done this in the
    past, and the schedule reports he'll be doing it again this weekend.
    [removed]

    Right outside Balitmore, Maryland, a group of stage performers will be doing
    an Ellery Queen radio script during the last weekend of the month.  The
    event is held by a "members only" stage troop but I have clearance to attend
    and watch the performance.  They will even pull a few members from the
    audience as armchair detectives to try it out.  Anyone within driving
    distance of Baltimore and wants to attend the event, let me know and I can
    arrange for another "guest" seating.

    Martin

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