Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #139
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Date: 4/21/2004 10:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 139
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
                                            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      birthday                              [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
      Re: "all I need is an episode guide"  [ rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed] ]
      old Sperdvac Radiograms available     [ howard blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Old issues of NARA NEWS available     [ howard blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Old music                             [ "Caldwell, Wayne" <b-caldwell1@[removed] ]
      Hashknife Hartley                     [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      [removed] Dragnet                          [ Ga6string@[removed] ]
      old issues of RETURN WITH US NOW ava  [ howard blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      USB pen players                       [ "Frank Phillips" <frankphi@hotmail. ]
      4-22 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Phantom of Crestwood                  [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:12:00 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:34:22 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:

    Ivan commented:
    In e-mail correspondence, Martin Grams, Jr. once related an experience he
    had at one of the OTR conventions in which a couple of individuals came by
    his table, picked up his book on INNER SANCTUM, thumbed through it and then
    dismissed it with "all I need is an episode guide and I can get that off the
    web."  In my opinion, that is very, VERY wrong-for me, learning about the
    history of these great programs provides the necessary fuel for my lifelong
    passion of The Hobby; it should, then, come as no surprise that whenever
    someone publishes a book that traces the origins and background of these
    series that I feast on it voraciously like buzzards on carrion.

    Ivan is correct.  Anyone with an [removed] higher than room temperature can tell
    the difference between a 4 page web-site and a 400 page book.  Episode
    guides are nice, but when it comes to quality and quantity, a book is more
    valuable.  Some web-sites are great, I wasn't debunking anyone's work.  But
    as I've seen and could point out in dozens of web-sites, anyone can post
    anything up on the web without much thought or further work to it, but a
    400-page book means it's been cross-refenced and researched in detail.

    I don't think I've been to a radio convention in the past two years that
    didn't have someone comment that they could get the same info off the
    internet - how little do they know.  Example: this past weekend at the Cincy
    Con a fella had a printout of a log of INFORMATION PLEASE broadcasts he got
    from Haendiges (sp?) web-site.  The log only goes to February 1945 (not the
    1950s when the show ended), has many blanks and missing guests, mis-spelled
    names (tons of those) and numbered the episodes wrong.  Yet the site clearly
    says "Complete Log."  This same man picked up the INFORMATION PLEASE book I
    wrote for BearManor Media, which features an honest to goodness complete
    episode guide with accurate episode numbers, all the guests (no blanks
    there), correct spellings, and goes all the way to the 1950s up to the final
    broadcast.  The man did raise his eyebrows a few times browsing the episode
    guide, and chuckled at a few passages in the book while he was reading.  I
    pointed out the differences (because he asked what the difference was
    between his printout and my book), even pointing out that the book features
    a history of the series, insight to lawsuits from listeners, fan mail
    reprinted, humorous stories from behind the microphone (such as which
    recurring guest author was asked not to return to the program when they
    correctly answered a question labeling Agatha Christie's mystery novel as
    "Ten Little Niggers" (the correct British title) instead of the American
    release known as "Ten Little Indians"), and so on.

    Afterwhich, the man commented that he'd prefer his rinky-dink printout,
    claiming he's never had to buy a book about OTR in his entire life.  This is
    his loss, not mine.  Ben Ohmart and I have had this discussion a few times
    in the past - whether it's worth paying the hundreds (and many times
    thousands) of dollars just in research fees, permission fees, let alone
    printing bills hoping to get reimbursed for our time and trouble . . . but
    if this is shape of things to come . . . the future of OTR research . . . I
    wonder who will be around to research OTR in the coming years?

    Martin Grams, Jr.
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:35:31 -0400
    From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  birthday
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    Jell-o again --

    If people keep saying nice things about me in the OTR Digest, perhaps I will
    be included in the list of those born on April 21, as I was.  Happy birthday
    to me.

    I have just finished proofing "It's That Time Again -- Vol. 2" for which I was
    the story editor, and contributed two stories.  Also represented are such
    names as Jack French, Martin Grams, Jon Swartz and many others familiar to
    these columns.  Also some new from larger literary circles --
    Richard A. Lupoff, Michael Kurland, William Nolan -- award-winning science
    fiction, mystery and non-fiction authors.
    Bobb Lines did a wonderful cover featuring Tom Mix, Jimmie Allen, Jack Benny,
    Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes, more.
    I think all of you will enjoy it.   A Ben Ohmart publication.
        Also I just got the cover of my first solo science fiction collection,
    "Harmon's Galaxy" featuring some new stories, and some going back quite a few
    years.  Radio fans will come across some stories that will remind them of
    broadcast favorites.
        -- Jim Harmon

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:37:20 -0400
    From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: "all I need is an episode guide"

>     In e-mail correspondence, Martin Grams, Jr. once related an experience he
>     had at one of the OTR conventions in which a couple of individuals came by
>     his table, picked up his book on INNER SANCTUM, thumbed through it and then
>     dismissed it with "all I need is an episode guide and I can get that off
>     the web."

    An additional flaw with this thinking is that if everyone just got the
    episode guides from the web (which are often stolen from books like this
    anyway) is that you're keeping the researcher from having the funds to
    continue writing other books.  Most of those online logs are innacurate at
    best, and if they aren't, they were probably illegally stolen from the
    copyrighted work of the researcher who's book you won't buy.  Contrary to the
    belief of some, people who write books about OTR are anything but rich.

    It's a sore subject with me, and I felt the need to chip in my two cents.

    rodney.

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:35:11 -0400
    From: howard blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  old Sperdvac Radiograms available

    I have a run of Sperdvac Radiograms (February 1993-January 2004, some
    issues missing) which I no longer need. If you're interested, please
    contact me off-line and indicate your interest.  If more than one or a
    couple of people are interested, it would be wise to state why you want
    them

    Howard Blue
    [removed]
    Khovard@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:35:20 -0400
    From: howard blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Old issues of NARA NEWS available

    I have a run of NARA NEWS (Fall 1996-Winter/Spring 2004, some issues
    missing) which I no longer need. If you're interested, please contact me
    off-line and indicate your interest.  In case than one or a couple of
    people are interested, please state why you want them

    Howard Blue
    [removed]
    Khovard@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:37:49 -0400
    From: "Caldwell, Wayne" <b-caldwell1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Old music
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    Hope this is not too off topic. I am looking for the 1950s & 1960's Doo Wop or
    rock and roll music in mp3 or wav files. Anyone have any?

    Wayne Caldwell
    b-caldwell1@[removed] (work)
    billyw@[removed] (home)

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:36:45 -0400
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Hashknife Hartley

    Does anybody have any information on Hashknife
    Hartley, based on the books by WC Tuttle? A friend of
    mine read the books and listened to the show when he
    was a kid. Dunning has only a paragraph on the show,
    and RadioGoldIndex lists two shows, so there are at
    least that many in circulation. Does anybody have any
    episodes to trade or to sell? This is for a colleague
    of mine. He's thirty years older than me, old enough
    to have listened to these shows firsthand, but
    sometimes he thinks he's going crazy because nobody
    else seems to recall them. For years he thought he'd
    made up memories of Jimmy Stewart starring in a
    Western series, until I gave him every episode of The
    Six Shooter last week.

    Thanks in advance,
    Kermyt

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:45:22 -0400
    From: Ga6string@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed] Dragnet
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    Hi gang,
    For those of you who enjoyed the [removed] Dragnet TV series, please note that the
    USA Network will reportedly broadcast the final five UNAIRED episodes of the
    series starting tonight (Wednesday, April 21) at 10 [removed] and continuing each
    Wednesday for the next five weeks.

    The USA Network has become the final resting place for excellent, yet
    canceled, TV shows, including [removed] Dragnet, Karen Sisco and (last year)
    Robbery
    Homicide Division.

    Bryan Powell

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:12:57 -0400
    From: howard blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  old issues of RETURN WITH US NOW available

    I have a run of RETURN WITH US NOW (newsletter of the Radio Historical
    Association of Colorado) which I no longer need. The run includes issues
    from May/ June 1998-August 2003, with some issues missing.  Please
    contact me off-line and indicate your interest.  If more than one or a
    couple of people are interested, it would be wise to state why you want
    them

    Howard Blue
    [removed]
    Khovard@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:52:40 -0400
    From: "Frank Phillips" <frankphi@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  USB pen players

    Reaction? Yes -- BOO! Don't waste your money.

    I got one for Christmas, could not get it to work on my computer.

    So, took it back to the store, got my money and found a Rio Volt CD player
    that does a wonderful job with MP3 files at Sam's Club for less than $40.

    Frank Phillips

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:19:56 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-22 births/deaths

    April 22nd births

    04-22-1900 - Joan Blaine - Fort Dodge, IA - d. 4-19-1949
    actress: Joan Houston "Tale of Today"; Mary Marlin "Story of Mary Marlin"
    04-22-1902 - John W. Vandercook - London, England - d. 1-6-1963
    commentator: "Newsroom of the Air/News of the World"
    04-22-1908 - Eddie Albert - Rock Island, IL
    actor: Walter Mitty "Secret Life of Walter Mitty"; "Eddie Albert Show"
    04-22-1920 - Hal March - San Francisco, CA - d. 1-19-1970
    comedian: Matt Henshaw "December Bride"; Mr. Cook "Too Many Cooks"
    04-22-1921 - Charlotte Lawrence - CA - d. 10-20-1993
    actress: Stacy McGill "Advs. of Christopher Wells"; Reba Britten "Just Plain
    Bill"

    April 22nd deaths

    01-09-1913 - Richard Nixon - Yorba Linda, CA - d. 4-22-1994
    [removed] president: "Image Minorities"; "Kennedy-Nixon Debates"
    03-01-1885 - Lionel Atwill - Croydon, England - d. 4-22-1946
    singer: "Eveready Hour"
    03-09-1902 - Will Geer - Franfort, IN - d. 4-22-1978
    actor: Penny "Bright Horizon"
    09-15-1904 - Tom Conway - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 4-22-1967
    actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"; Simon Templar "The Saint"
    10-13-1891 - Irene Rich - Buffalo, NY - d. 4-22-1988
    actress: Faith Chandler "Dear John"; Irene Davis "Lady Counsellor"; Judith
    Bradley "Glorious One"
    11-10-1907 - Jane Froman - St. Louis, MO - d. 4-22-1980
    singer: "Florsheim Frolic"; "Bromo Seltzer Hour"; "Gulf Musical Playhouse"
    12-28-1903 - Earl "Fatha" Hines - Duquesne, PA - d. 4-22-1983
    bandleader: "Band Remotes"; "Chamber Music of Lower Basin Street"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:52:38 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Phantom of Crestwood

    I was watching tonight a video to DVD that I bought from Fred Berney at the
    Cincy Con. It is an RKO Radio film that Leonard Maltin called a "first rate
    whodunit."  Anyway, the show opens with a radio announcer talking about a
    contest that was on NBC radio held during the run of a radio version called
    "Phantom of Crestwood." Listeners were told to write in with the solution
    to the whodunit on the radio version with prizes to be awarded. The catch
    was that the solution would be given in the film that I purchased from
    Satellite Video. It was kind of a neat idea and I wondered if the radio
    show actually happened.

    Sure enough Jay Hickerson lists a short run from 1932 over NBC. The film
    was also released that same year after the show went off.

    Anyway, my question is whether there is any information around this radio
    program. It appears no copies exist, but I was wondering if this was just
    an independent short run radio program or part of something bigger that NBC
    regular did. No sponsor seemed to be involved, though I suspect so unless
    the sponsor was RKO itself and this is an early concept of using one medium
    to promote another similar to what Blair Witch did and now others have
    since picked up by having tie in web sites (not just one's advertising
    their film, but more interactive as the Blair Witch web site was before the
    film was released.).

    Anyway, inquiring minds want to know, so if anyone has a clue, I'd love to
    hear it.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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