Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #315
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Date: 10/13/2005 10:18 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 315
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Country Comedians                     [ "Jim Cox" <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Dirty Talk                            [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
      Nan Warren                            [ seandd@[removed] ]
      Blind Members                         [ dougdouglass@[removed] ]
      Re: Seldes on Benny                   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Re: games mentioned in otr            [ "John Abbott" <mraastro@[removed] ]
      Capt. Tim Healy                       [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
      Dick and Ed interview                 [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Rutland Vermont Article on OTR        [ seandd@[removed] ]
      Radio's Golden Years at FOTR          [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
      Howie Wing                            [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
      Third Revised Ultimate History        [ JayHick@[removed] ]
      Abbot and Costello Horse Race Script  [ "Jack Feldman" <qualitas@millenicom ]
      Private Eyelashes, RC 58854           [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      10-13 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:53:46 -0400
    From: "Jim Cox" <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Country Comedians

    Those who are unabashed country music aficionados probably love country
    comedians, too.  Some I remember with affection and a big grin are Minnie
    Pearl, Lonzo and Oscar, Rod Brasfield, Archie Campbell and Jerry Clower.
    All of those have passed from the scene, I think, and are missed by legions.
    I memorized some of Minnie's routines and still recall many of her hilarious
    one-liners.

    Little Jimmy Dickens, diminutive in size at 4 feet something, is considered
    first and foremost a country singer.  Now 79, the flashy star-spangled
    performer wows the crowds every weekend at the Grand Ole Opry and has been
    doing so since 1948.  He turned into quite a humorist in his own right as
    the years rolled by, filling a void on the Opry's stage since so many comics
    have departed.

    The other night he introduced himself as he has so many times before as
    "Little Jimmy Dickens, or Willie Nelson after taxes."  He said his band
    performed for the residents at a nursing home a few days earlier and
    everybody seemed to love the show except one old lady who never changed
    expression.  He went up to her after it was over and observed:  "I saw you
    didn't smile during the show.  Didn't you enjoy it?"  She said nothing.
    Impatiently, he inquired:  "Mamn, do you know who I am?"  She studied his
    face for a moment and responded:  "No, but if you'll go up to that nurse at
    the desk, she'll tell you who you are."  Dickens added, "You know you're
    getting old when your wife grabs your hand and says 'Let's go upstairs and
    make love' and you tell her 'I can't do both.'"

    Presiding over the first half-hour of the Opry the other night, which is
    carried by WSM Radio and the Internet, immediately before the show adds live
    TV for an hour, Dickens cautioned the audience at the Grand Ole Opry House:
    "We're gettin' ready to go on television now.  So if you're sittin' next to
    somebody you shouldn't be seen with, now is a good time for you to get up
    and move someplace else."

    There may not be a lot of years left for the devotees to enjoy entertainers
    like Little Jimmy Dickens -- at least, not live and in person.  He's a
    legend and, in one sense, a national treasure.  My memory of him dates back
    to the 1940s and 1950s when NBC beamed a half-hour of that venerable show to
    my home and millions of others.  I'm thankful Dickens and a handful of his
    cohorts are still doing their thing.  It's one of the surviving connections
    we have with live radio.  I'd like to think it will go on forever.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:54:36 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dirty Talk

    Lee Munsick, speaking of Arthur Godfrey and detergents, notes,

>     Arthur Godfrey was one of the folk unhappy with suds.  He had detailed
>     briefings by the makers of their "new idea", Axxion.  He was thrilled
>     with what they told him.  The new product was bumped to the head of the
>     constant line of sponsors waiting for a chance to be on the Godfrey
>     programs.

    Mr. Godfrey had many sponsors, including some used for cleaning and
    polishing.  One of these was Glass Wax.  During the summer, I used to
    listen to the Arthur Godfrey show, and heard him speak positively about
    the virtues of Glass Wax.

    One of his listeners wrote him about the sponsor's product.  The letter
    so amused Mr. Godfrey that he read it on the air.  Reconstructed from
    memory, it went as follows.

    "You always use the Glass Wax slogan, 'Cleans 30 kinds of dirt in 30
    seconds.'  How silly!  Who wants clean dirt?"

    >From that time on, Mr. Godfrey changed the slogan to, "Removes 30 kinds
    of dirt in 30 seconds."

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:12:39 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Nan Warren

    I'm seeking episodes of Let's Pretend that feature actress Nan Warren.

    Does anyone know if any exist?  She would have been on the show in the early
    years, probably not for very long.

    Thanks for any information,

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]
    201-739-2541

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:12:54 -0400
    From: dougdouglass@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Blind Members

    Buck Saunders message reminded me that we haven't seen posts from Ryan
    Osentowski for awhile.  Is anyone in touch with him?

    Doug Douglass

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:51:27 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Seldes on Benny

    On 10/12/05 12:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     I'm not surprised that Gilbert Seldes was offended by Murrow's
>     program since Seldes thought that Jack Benny's humor was "mean-
>     spirited."

    Well, in fairness to Seldes, the remark was made in a larger context than
    simply a reference to Benny himself. The specific criticism, appearing in
    a 1946 Esquire magazine essay, was focused on the "mean spirited" overall
    tone of postwar radio comedy, much of which had, in Seldes' view,
    degenerated into little more than constant streams of insults about
    "Jolson's age and Benny's tightness."

    Seldes wrote at length about Benny in his 1956 book, "The Public Arts,"
    and praises Jack as "the most skillful comedian I have ever seen work
    before the public," and "a good citizen and a sensitive and intelligent
    man." So I think it's safe to say that Seldes wasn't quite the
    sour-bellied anti-Benny curmudgeon that he's sometimes been portrayed as
    on the strength of out-of-context quotes.

    "The Public Arts" is a book I highly recommend, by the way. In addition
    to the chapter on Benny, there's also an entire chapter devoted to
    Seldes' analysis of Murrow's McCarthy broadcast, with some extremely
    interesting -- and highly prescient -- follow-up comments.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:51:43 -0400
    From: "John Abbott" <mraastro@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: games mentioned in otr

    Per chance Richard Diamond was mentioning the game of marbles, which uses
    the term "immies".  I think that it refers to a type of marble, but I am
    much too young to remember. :-)

    John C. Abbott

    Note:
    No Trees were harmed in sending this message.
    However, some electrons along the way were inconvenienced.

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:22:38 -0400
    From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Capt. Tim Healy

>     October 12th deaths

>     Tim Healy - Sydney, Australia - d. 10-12-1947
>     commentator: "Calling All Stamp Collectors"; "Captain Tim Helay Spy Stories"

    Capt. Tim's son became a Jesuit Priest and wound up as president of Fordham
    University. OTR content: Fordham's WFUV-FM, which went on the air in the
    1940s, regularly plays oldtime radio (at least it used to).

    Bill Knowlton Fordham College 1960

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:50:43 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dick and Ed  interview

    Hi Everybody,

    I also wanted to mention that I believe Dick and Ed have done a terrific job
    of interviewing radio folks.  I feel very bless to run the series on my
    Saturday night show on Yesterday USA.  The hobby is very bless to have four
    radio show back in the late 1960s and early  1970s to interview people from
    the Golden Days.  Dick and Ed base in CT, Richard Lamparski What Ever Became
    of series base in NY, Chuck  Schaden in Chicago, and Frank Bresee base in
    [removed]  They all have done a good job,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:50:55 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Rutland Vermont Article on OTR

    This article on old time radio ran in today's Rutland Herald.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]
    1039

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:52:16 -0400
    From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio's Golden Years at FOTR

    Jay will have a few (only a few) copies of "Radio's Golden Years" by Frank
    Bresee and Bobb Lynes in a dealers room at FOTR  next week.  The convention
    price is only $[removed] ($[removed] w/ [removed] kidding).  Get 'em before
    they're gone!!!  I'll have flyers there so you can mail-order them at a
    reduced rate.   Still a great "Hal Stone-style" bargain!
    See you all there,

    Bobb

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:49:20 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Howie Wing

    Back in February of this year, Jack French announced that west coast
    collector, Kathy Hammel, discovered episodes of a children's aviation
    serial, Howie Wing. Until Kathy's discovery, no copies were known to exist.

    Kathy was able to have Jerry Haendiges create CD copies from the
    electrical transcriptions, which were in fine shape.

    Now through the permission of Kathy and in keeping with a number of
    people trying to make previously unknown copies available to the otr
    community, an mp3 copy is available at my web site for download. It is
    one episode of the six that were contained on her transcriptions. I
    might also mention that since her discovery, two more episodes have been
    found bringing the total to eight.

    The other episodes, I believe,  will be available later through others
    via CD. This is the only mp3 copy that has been made available. It is a
    high quality file and therefore is large (14 megabytes), so I would not
    recommend downloading it if you are still tied to a dial up access.

    The file is available at [removed].

    Thanks again to Kathy for making it available, Jack for his efforts in
    facilitating things, and Jerry for his fine transfer work!

    By the way, this might be a good time to mention that some other
    previously uncirculated programs are available at my site. These are now
    making their way into circulation, but are still available and include
    "The Affairs of Peter Salem," "Ted Drake, Guardian of the Big Top," and
    "Crime Letter From Dan Dodge."

    Jim Widner

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:52:02 -0400
    From: JayHick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Third Revised Ultimate History

    80 books are on the way to Newark.  If you aren't going to the convention,
    email me for details.  Jay

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:42:42 -0400
    From: "Jack Feldman" <qualitas@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Abbot and Costello Horse Race Script

    I've been traveling for the last six months so my reading of this group has
    been sporadic. Please excuse me if someone else in my group has been here
    before me.

    We would like to do the A&C horse routine for a particular group. Does
    anyone know where we could get the script?

    Thanks in advance,

    Jack

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    Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:43:50 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Private Eyelashes, RC 58854
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    Hi Gang:

    As George Ansbro once said to me when I told him I was a Braillist, "Funny,
    you don't look Braillish!"

    One of my functions here at American Foundation of the Blind, when I'm not in
    a studio recording Talking Books, is using my credentials as a certified
    Braille transcriber to proofread metal plates used to stamp out labels for
    Talking Book cassettes.  I'm happy to report that one of the titles I
    encountered today (12)  was  for a little book called "Private Eyelashes:
    Radio's Lady Detectives," by French, Jack.

    As reported earlier this year, Jack's book for Ben Ohmart's Bear Manor Media
    was recorded by Nicola Daval, a Talking Book narratrix in the Washington DC
    area. Now that the labels are ready to be affixed to cassettes, it's only a
    matter of time for  seven wonderful sides of "Private Eyelashes," to be ready
    to ship for Talking Book subscribers and libraries all over the [removed]

    The catalogue description reads: "History of well-known female crime solvers
    such as Nora Charles,  Pam North, Della Street, and Patsy Bowen, who made
    appearances on old-time radio detective and mystery programs. Provides an
    overview of their shows and chronicles their development in film, pulp
    fiction, and comic books. 2004."

    So, all you [removed] subscribers: be sure to ask for "Private Eyelashes" by it's
    catalogue number, RC 58854 (how close is that to Candy matson's phone number,
    Jack?)  I sincerely hope your wait is not too long.  Congratulations  Jack,
    Ben, and Nicola! These books are made for talkin'!

    Yrs alw (in) (the) e(the)r--

    D(er)ek Tague

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    Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:00:48 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  10-13 births/deaths

    October 13th births

    10-13-1885 - Harry Hershfield - Cedar Rapids, IA - d. 12-15-1974
    comedian: "Stop Me If You Heard This One"; "Can You Top This?"
    10-13-1889 - Douglass Dumbrille - Hamilton, Ontario, Canada - d. 4-2-1974
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-13-1891 - Irene Rich - Buffalo, NY - d. 4-22-1988
    actress: Faith Chandler "Dear John"; Irene Davis "Lady Counsellor"; Judith
    Bradley "Glorious One"
    10-13-1900 - Georgia Backus - Columbus, OH - d. 9-7-1983
    actress: Peg Riley "Life of Riley"; Portia Brent "Brenthouse"; Doris Foster "A
    Date with Judy"
    10-13-1900 - Gerald Marks - Saginaw, MI - d. 1-27-1997
    tin pan alley composer: "Great Days We Honor"
    10-13-1901 - Frank Remley - d. 1-28-1967
    left handed guitarist: The Phil Harris Orchestra
    10-13-1903 - Patsy Moran - Pennsylvania - d. 12-10-1968
    actress: Martha Hoople "Major Hoople"; Hilda "Junior Miss"
    10-13-1904 - Wilfred Pickles - Halifax, England - d. 3-26-1978
    announcer, newsreader: "Have A Go"; "Children's Hour"; "Where Are You Now?"
    10-13-1909 - Art Tatum - Toledo, OH - d. 11-5-1956
    pianist: David Rose Orchestra
    10-13-1910 - Tex McCrary - Calvert, TX - d. 7-28-2003
    interviewer: "Hi Jinx"; "Tex & Jinx"
    10-13-1913 - Ethel Everett - New York City, NY - d. 4-2-1973
    actress: Elsie Anderson "David Harum"; Mayme Gordon "O'Neills"
    10-13-1915 - Hugh James - The Bronx, NY - d. 6-17-2001
    announcer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Three Star Final"; "Big Town"
    10-13-1917 - Burr Tillstrom - Chicago, IL - d. 12-6-1985
    actor, puppeteer: "The Northerners"; "Kukla, Fran and Ollie"
    10-13-1918 - Cornel Wilde - New York City, NY - d. 10-15-1989
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-13-1918 - Robert Walker - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 8-28-1951
    actor: Davy Dillon "Maudie's Diary"
    10-13-1919 - Marion Hargrove - Mount Olive, NC - d. 8-23-2003
    author: "MGM Theatre of the Air"; "Information, Please"; "March of Time"
    10-13-1920 - Laraine Day - Roosevelt, UT
    talk show hostess, actress: "Laraine Day Show"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-13-1921 - Yves Montand - Monsummano Alto, Tuscany, Italy - d. 11-9-1991
    singer, actor: "Rendezvouz In Paris"
    10-13-1924 - Marilyn Hare - Flushing, NY - d. 10-9-1981
    singer: (Daughter of Ernie Hare) "The Happiness Boys"
    10-13-1925 - Lenny Bruce - Mineola, NY - d. 8-3-1966
    comedian: "Arthur Godfrey Talent Scouts"; "Why Did Lenny Bruce Die?"
    10-13-1926 - Ray Brown - d. 7-2-2002
    jazz bassist: "Bands for Bonds"; "Here's to Veterans"; "White House Jazz
    Festival"
    10-13-1927 - Lee Konitz - Chicago, IL
    alto saxophonist: "Artistry in Rhythm"

    October 13th deaths

    01-26-1914 - Phoebe Ephron - New York City, NY - d. 10-13-1971
    author: "Lux RadioTheatre"
    02-15-1923 - Keene Curtis - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 10-13-2002
    actor: NPR Playhouse "Star Wars"
    03-14-1918 - Dennis Patrick - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-13-2002
    actor: "Shakespeare Festival"
    04-04-1906 - Bea Benaderet - New York City, NY (Raised: San Francisco, CA) -
    d. 10-13-1968
    comedienne: Gertrude Gearshift "Jack Benny Program"; Dora Foster "A Date with
    Judy
    04-27-1918 - Robert Mitchell - Casper, WY - d. 10-13-1992
    writer: "The Advs. of Philip Marlowe"
    06-17-1919 - Beryl Reid - Hereford, England - d. 10-13-1996
    actress: Monica "Educating Archie"
    07-14-1917 - Douglas Edwards - Ada, OK - d. 10-13-1990
    newscaster: "Wendy Warren and the News"
    08-03-1916 - Horace Logan - d. 10-13-2002
    creator of "The Louisana Hayride"
    08-14-1903 - Millard Mitchell - Havana, Cuba - d. 10-13-1953
    actor: Casey "Mighty Casey"
    08-17-1905 - Frederick Ziv - Cincinnati, OH - d. 10-13-2001
    producer: "Philo Vance"
    09-28-1901 - Ed Sullivan - New York City, NY (Raised: Port Chester, NY) - d.
    10-13-1974
    host: "Ed Sullivan Show"
    10-07-1889 - Clarence Muse - Baltimore , MD - d. 10-13-1979
    singer: "Paducah Plantation"
    10-15-1926 - Jean Peters - Canton, OH - d. 10-13-2000
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    10-23-1906 - Lucy Monroe - New York City, NY - d. 10-13-1987
    singer: (The Star-Spangled Soprano) "Hammerstein's Music Hall"; "Manhattan
    Merry-Go-Round"
    11-19-1889 - Clifton Webb - Indianapolis, IN - d. 10-13-1966
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-16-1898 - Lud Gluskin - New York City, NY - d. 10-13-1989
    conductor: "Hollywood Showcase"; "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Advs. of Sam Spade"
    xx-xx-1911 - Mary Mason - Pasadena, CA - d. 10-13-1980
    actress: Mary Aldrich "The Aldrich Family"; Maudie Mason "Maudie"s Diary"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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