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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 319

Table Of Contents: 

	 Trains - THANKS!
	 Re: The Cricket Guy
	 Re: CBS Radio Mystery Theater
	 Re: Cliff Edwards and Jimminy Cricket
	 Watching Radio and J. Benny
	 Minorities in OTR
	 Re: A&E Profile of J. Benny
	 A few thoughts
	 Quiz shows
	 More on Cliff Edwards
	 Jack Benny on A&E
	 OTR Studios Gutted
	 Where's Peter Vollmer?

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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:10:32 -0500
From: Marty_Dzik@[removed] (Marty Dzik)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Trains - THANKS!
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I just wanted to send a BIG THANK YOU  to all of those who responded, and
still are responding, to my "OTR on trains" request.

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks again.
Marty Dzik
marty_dzik@[removed]



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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:22:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: shoshani@[removed] (Michael Shoshani)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: The Cricket Guy
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> From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: The Cricket Guy
> 
> I'm confused. If Cliff Edwards did Jimmeny Cricket, what voice
> did Sterling Holloway do? (Not to be confused with the English
> Stanley Holloway.) I'm faily sure he sang "When You Wish Upon A
> Star."
> 

Sterling Holloway did the voice of Winnie-the-Pooh (which in its 
Disney-ized form dropped the hyphens).  Stanley Holloway, with whom 
Sterling is not to be confused, was a genius whose work deserves more 
radio airplay.  Cliff Edwards did the voice of Jiminy Cricket (and sang 
"When You Wish Upon A Star" in _Pinocchio_); before that he had enjoyed a 
long stage and screen career under the name Ukelele Ike.

-- 
shoshani@[removed]        //   Reader, suppose you were an idiot;
  Michael Shoshani     //   and suppose you were a member of Congress;
    Chicago IL, USA   //   but I repeat myself.
[removed]~shoshani/   //                             --Mark Twain

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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 22:09:10 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: CBS Radio Mystery Theater
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Carl wrote:
>I would like to just make a quick comment about some of the comments I've
>read concerning the great classic "The CBS Radio Mystery Theater".  Time and
>time again this show has been referred to as an "attempt", "weak attempt",
>"poor try", or "sorry attempt" to bring back OTR.  Well, in defense of the
>CBS Radio Mystery Theater, I have to say it was not an attempt but a success
>at bringing back OTR.  This show outlasted many of the other OTR shows by
>many years.  An Attempt?  No, a Success.  Lets give credit where credit is
>due. This in my book is OTR. For as long as this show lasted, it made many
>shows pale in comparison. Remember, 1974 grows further and further in the
>past everyday!  The CBS Radio Mystery Theater was a GRAND success!!!!!
>

I agree with this assessment one hundred percent. I have been contacted by
or spoken with many people who told me that it was this show that piqued
their interest in otr. If a series such as that has that kind of impact,
then I say it was worth being on the air no matter how good or bad.

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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 22:16:16 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cliff Edwards and Jimminy Cricket
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>Hi, all
>I think that I have a "Command Performance" show with Cliff Edwards as
>one of the guests. If anyone is interested in a coppy drop me an e-mail
>and I'll find it.
>

While not exactly the kind of otr that was asked about, he also appeared on
one of the series that Orson Welles hosted - one that I cannot recall the
name, though I have a copy somewhere in my library. Orson Welles would
present a storyline with Jimminy Cricket as a sort of conscience to him at
the opening introductions.

I think I'll have to try to locate this one again to be a little clearer. If
anyone knows what I refer to, then feel free to jump in here!

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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:06:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Larry T. Lewis" <mfltl@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Watching Radio and J. Benny
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The recent Biography program about Jack Benny had at least one
talking head remarking about everyone watching the radio.  There
were also pictures of families sitting around the radio looking
at it. Frankly the pictures looked a bit staged.  In any case, speaking
for myself, I don't recollect watching the radio.  I did listen to
it while doing homework, and the dark of my room before falling
asleep.  Of course, as someone pointed out, sometimes I may have been
looking at the radio when I was holding on to the antenna wire to get
WBZ (Boston), a clear channel station only 40 miles away. 

Regards,

Larry Lewis            Internet: mfltl@[removed]
Geography  Department  Bitnet: mfltl@[removed]
Western Illinois Univ  Phone: (309) 298-1764
Macomb, IL 61455                  

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Date: 04 Sep 96 13:35:54 EDT
From: mweisbe@[removed] (Weisberg, Mitch D)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Minorities in OTR
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	Hi.  I will be leading a panel called Minorities in Radio at this year's 
FOTR convention.

	 I'm looking for help in opinions, quotes, examples, etc. on how various 
minorities (racial, religious, ethnic, immigrant, gay, women, etc.) were 
depicted in OTR.  Both good and bad.  Specific episodes or general trends 
are appreciated.  In fact, any help is appreciated.

	Thanks,

		Mitch Weisberg.

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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:25:23 -0700
From: "DAVE JEWETT" <davidrj@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: A&E Profile of J. Benny
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>On the A&E profile of Jack Benny, it was interesting seeing the brief
section claiming people sat around and watched their radios during
programs. There was even a film clip (seemingly posed) showing a family
doing just that.
This was all interesting in view of the recent comments at this location on
this very topic.
As a kid, I can't recall watching the radio while listening to "Superman,"
"Jack Armstrong," "Captain Midnight" and many, many other favorites. I
susp[ect I was leafing through comic books. Or maybe staring at the
[removed]
davej

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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 00:06:31 +0600
From: cbholm@[removed] (c holm)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: A few thoughts
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After a summer of lurking, I'm back at school and ready to participate in
full, so I thought I'd throw out a few things for everyone to take, leave or
ignore.

OTR on trains:
I don't remember anyone mentioning "El Capitan and the Corporal" from the 13
by Corwin series, which takes place entirely during a train trip.  Also
there is an Inner Sanctum episode that called "The Unforgiving Corpse."  It
doesn't take place on a train, but does involve a ghost train.

Watching the radio:
At the age of 22, few people on this list should be as visually oriented as
I am.  Besides my great enthusiasm for watching TV, :)  I work with
computers a lot so I recieve a deluge of visual information.  However, when
I'm listening to OTR, I seldom watch the radio.  I'll stare into space, page
through an OTR catalog (usually Radio Spirits), do homework, check email,
etc. [removed]  but hardly ever watch the radio.   Not an expert opinion, just
an observation.

You know you're a fan when:
Some time ago, someone made a list of "You know you're a fan of OTR
[removed]'s"  I thought of a couple others:
"....when you've tried to join the Mystic Knights of the Sea, the Sacred
Stars of the Milky Way , or the Royal Order of Great Horned Owls."
"....if you've ever tried to book a cruise to Three Skeleton Key."
That's kind of fun, anyone else got some?

Thats all for now

chris
-duct tape is like force, it has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the
universe together.

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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:11:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Quiz shows
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> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:04:25 -0700
> From: joseph@[removed] (joseph)
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: OTR Quiz Shows
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> 
> True about TV, but one of the rationals was that OTR quiz shows were often
> played for fun. The OTR quiz shows never dwelt seriously on whether the
> contestents "were in the know." But for $64 and lower everyone tended to
> feel it was a GAME show, not for real. A classic was "It Pays to Be
> Ignorant" a show that used quiz shows for laughs.

True enough.  Until the $64,000 Question, quiz show winnings were rather
small.  The most you could win in the regular quiz on "You Bet Your Life"
was about $400.  The big question at the end rarely went more than a
couple thousand dollars (which was a lot more money then, but not
$64,000).

But then, when the idea of "You Bet Your Life" was first proposed to
Groucho, ie was concerned about the honesty of the thing and made it a
firm condition that the quiz was to be completely honest, and that he was
not going to help any contestant who didn't know the answer.   I would
assume that he wouldn't have needed to make those conditions if there had
not been at least some rumors of rigged quiz shows at the time.

BTW, there was one occasion when Groucho acknowledged that other quiz
shows gave away more money, and he announced that in response, he was
increasing the prize for saying the Secret Word -- from $100 to $101. 
This went on for a few weeks, until finally, he said that he had learned
that the extra dollar was coming from his own pocket.  Therefore, the
amount was being reduced to $99 until the dollar was made up. 

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:40:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwavesOTR <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: More on Cliff Edwards
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Sometime during the war years "Ukelele Ike" (Cliff Edwards) appeared as his
alter-ego Jiminy Cricket (from Walt Disney's Pinocchio) as cohost of one of
Orson Welles' radio series (probably Orson Welles Almanac).  At least one 
exists.
I also assume, once again without checking, that he also appeared in the Lux
Radio Theatre version of "Pinnocchio".      -Max

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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:58:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dan Hughes <dhughes@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny on A&E
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Well, my VCR failed me and I did not get the show recorded.  Can some 
kind soul dub me a copy of their video and let me pay for the expense?  
Please?  Thanks,     ---Dan

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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 08:50:27 -0700
From: "Donald S. Browne" <absee@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
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Subject: OTR Studios Gutted
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I was a witness to the gutting of about ten OTR studios at 30 Rock during
the summer of '68. They were NBC "red" network studios probably built in 
the 50's.  They were on the third floor (with ceilings extending through 
the fourth floor above) and contained audience seating (about 100-150), 
large control room, and client's booth.  These radio studios were 
replaced by TV studios known as 3A, 3B, 3C, 3D, and 3K.  Studio 3C 
originally was "Nightly News."  Any other witnesses?  Did anyone take 
photographs of the radio studios prior to destruction?
Donald S. Browne, absee@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:50:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Henry A. Campbell-Ickes" <hacickes@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Where's Peter Vollmer?
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Pardon me for a minute, folks --

Peter Vollmer, please send me your e-mail address!  When I used "Reply" 
to your note, I got a reject message from my system.  Basically, the gist 
was that it had trouble recognizing the "Pvollmer" part of the address.

Hilfe!

Hank C-I




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