Subject: [removed] Digest V2009 #10
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Date: 1/13/2009 10:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2009 : Issue 10
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      1-13 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Re: Sen-Sen                           [ "Danica L. Stein" <furrygirl@comcas ]
      Re:OTR on XM Satellite Radio          [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      The Chicago Whistler                  [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
      Re: OTR on XM Satellite radio         [ Mike Murphy <mikeandzachary@verizon ]
      Sen-Sen                               [ <georgewagner@[removed]; ]
      Sen-sen                               [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Re: XM Radio and HD Radio             [ rand@[removed] ]
      RE: OTR on XM Satellite radio         [ "Pamela K. Gitta" <wjmtv@[removed] ]
      XM and Sen-Sen                        [ Karen Lerner <kareneflerner@[removed] ]
      Re: Bob Hope                          [ Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed] ]
      Pearl Harbor Coverage                 [ "Mike Harron" <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      RE: Radio about radio/Whistler        [ Radioclass <radioclass@[removed] ]
      DRAGNET AND CSI NY DIALOGUE           [ Grams46@[removed] ]
      Re: sen sen                           [ Grams46@[removed] ]
      Smoking on radio                      [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]

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    Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:18:14 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-13 births/deaths

    January 13th births

    01-13-1882 - Domenico Savino - Tranto, Italy - d. 8-8-1973
    composer/conductor: "Evening in Paris"; "La Palina Smoke Dreams"
    01-13-1884 - Sophie Tucker - Russia - d. 2-9-1966
    singer: (The Last of the Red Hot Mammas) "Sophie Tucker and Her Show"
    01-13-1885 - Jimmy Monaco - Genoa, Italy - d. 10-17-1945
    orchestra leader: WOR Newark, New Jersey
    01-13-1895 - Campbell Arnoux - d. 11-1-1966
    announcer: Uncle Billy "Uncle Billy"
    01-13-1901 - A. B. Guthrie - Bedford, IN - d. 4-26-1991
    author, screenwriter: "NBC University Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-13-1903 - Charles Kullman - New Haven, CT - d. 2-8-1983
    singer: "The Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"
    01-13-1903 - Kay Francis - Oklahoma City,  Oklahoma Territory - d.
    8-26-1968
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-13-1909 - Danny Barker - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-13-1994
    jazz guitar: "This Is Jazz"
    01-13-1910 - Jack Mercer - d. 12-4-1984
    actor: Popeye "Popeye the Sailor"
    01-13-1913 - Harry Budka - Chicago, IL
    composer, arranger, pianist: Hal Kemp, Earl Burnett and Ted Weems bands
    01-13-1913 - Jeff Morrow - NYC - d. 12-26-1993
    actor: "Electric Theatre"
    01-13-1913 - Paul Birch - Alabama - d. 5-24-1969
    actor: Radio work in St. Louis under the name of Paul (Lowery) Smith
    01-13-1914 - Osa Massen - Copenhagen, Denmark - d. 1-2-2006
    actor: "Orson Welles Theatre"; "Columbia Workshop"
    01-13-1914 - Stanley Waxman - Ohio - d. 9-27-1998
    actor: "Escape"; "Man Called X"; "Tell It Again"; "Presenting Charles
    Boyer"
    01-13-1915 - Mahlon Aldridge - d. 1-21-1986
    sportscaster: Missouri
    01-13-1918 - Steve Dunne - Northampton, MA - d. 9-2-1977
    actor: Sam Spade "Advs. of Sam Spade"
    01-13-1919 - Robert Stack - Los Angeles, CA - d. 5-14-2003
    actor: "Family Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    01-13-1925 - Gwen Verdon - Culver City, Los Angeles, CA - d. 10-18-2000
    actor, singer, dancer: "Stagestruck"; "WOR Diamond Jubilee"
    01-13-1927 - Delores Hawkins - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-15-1987
    singer: "Nick Kenny's Children's Follies"
    01-13-1930 - Frances Sternhagen - Washington, [removed]
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    01-13-1931 - Charles Nelson Reilly - The Bronx, NY - d. 5-25-2007
    actor: "Visual Radio"

    January 13th deaths

    01-02-1901 - Hugh Ross Williamson - Romsey, England - d. 1-13-1978
    author: "Paul, a Bondslave"
    02-02-1882 - James Joyce - Dublin, Ireland - d. 1-13-1941
    author: "NBC University Theatre"
    02-09-1915 - Charlotte Holland - d. 1-13-1997
    actor: Nita Bennett "Lone Journey"; Nora Drake "This is Nora Drake"
    02-26-1922 - Margaret Leighton - Barnt Green, England - d. 1-13-1976
    actor: "Variety Playhouse"; "Pocket Theatre"
    03-16-1859 - Alexander Popov - Turinsk District, Russia - d. 1-13-1906
    One of three claimants for inventor of radio (along with Marconi and
    de Forest)
    04-03-1920 - Stan Freeman - Waterbury, CT - d. 1-13-2001
    pianist, composer: "Piano Playhouse"; "All Night on NBC"
    04-10-1897 - Eric Knight - Menston, England - d. 1-13-1943
    writer: "Everyman's Theatre"
    04-11-1913 - Bob LeMond - Hale Center, TX - d. 1-13-2008
    announcer: "Romance of the Ranchos"; "Sweeny and March Show"
    04-21-1914 - Norman Panama - Chicago, IL - d. 1-13-2003
    writer: "Pepsodent Show starring Bob Hope"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-24-1871 - Blanche Ring - Boston, MA - d. 1-13-1961
    actor/singer: "Fight Camp"; "Jumbo"
    05-02-1917 - Herman Clebanoff - Chicago, IL - d. 1-13-2004
    musician: (Herman Clebanoff and the Ensemble) "Big City Serenade"
    05-11-1911 - Doodles Weaver - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-13-1983
    comedian: (Brother of Pat Weaver) Professor Feedlebaum "Spike Jones
    Show"
    05-27-1911 - Hubert H. Humphrey - Wallace, SD - d. 1-13-1978
    politician: "Meet the Press"; "University of Chicago Round Table"
    06-24-1924 - Thelma Rogers - Coventry, England - d. 1-13-2000
    actor: "The Archers"
    07-05-1911 - Richard Newton - Vancouver, Canada - d. 1-13-2006
    actor: "Now Hear This"
    07-09-1881 - Samuel "Roxy" Rothafel - Stillwater, MN - d. 1-13-1936
    emcee: "Roxy's Gang"; "Roxy Revue"
    07-13-1934 - Philip Crosby - California - d. 1-13-2004
    actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
    07-15-1920 - B. H. Anderly - d. 1-13-1998
    newscaster, disk jockey: KLIZ Brainerd, Minnesota
    07-22-1908 - Shirley Howard - d. 1-13-1988
    singer: "Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou"
    08-18-1912 - Ralph Hetzel - d. 1-13-1994
    labor leader: "Wake Up America"
    09-05-1916 - Frank Shuster - Toronto Canada - d. 1-13-2002
    writer: (Wayne and Schuster) "The Army Show"; "The March of Time"
    09-13-1880 - Jesse L. Lasky - San Francisco, CA - d. 1-13-1958
    film producer, host: "Gateway to Hollywood"
    09-23-1889 - Don Bestor - Longford, SD - d. 1-13-1970
    bandleader: "Nestle Program"; "Jack Benny Program"
    11-04-1896 - Harry Woods - North Chelmsford, MA - d. 1-13-1970
    compser: "Great Moments to Music"
    11-29-1909 - Frank Waldecker - d. 1-13-1995
    announcer: "A Date with Judy"; "The Eddie Duchin Show"
    12-22-1901 - Andre Kostelanetz - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 1-13-1980
    conductor: "Chesterfield Hour"; "Light Up Time"; "Pause That Refreshes"

    Ron

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:44:57 -0500
    From: "Danica L. Stein" <furrygirl@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Sen-Sen

    Keith, would you believe I have a package of Sen-Sen right here
    beside me? Many moons ago, I asked about the reference to Sen-Sen I
    had heard on (I think) a Fibber and Molly show. Some kind soul on
    this Roundtable actually mailed me a pack, which I still have right
    here. That was so long ago, I don't even remember who that kind soul
    was. But I thank him/her again!

    I remember that discussion here about Sen-Sen, and folks saying you
    either loved it or hated it. A couple people said it tasted like
    soap. I just popped a few in my mouth, and I think it smells like
    soap, but I like that. And I decided I have a love-hate relationship
    with it. I find it so odd-tasting, I just have to keep eating it.
    Wow, that's a taste that stays with you.

    Well, at least now I know where to get more--I live not far from the
    Vermont Country Store!

    Back to lurking!

    Danica in western Vermont

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:45:21 -0500
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:OTR on XM Satellite Radio

    On 1/12/2009 Larry Jordan wrote:

>     On Friday I picked up a new SRX that happens to be equipped with XM
>     satellite [removed]

>     Tonight on the way home I was listening to some wonderful Big Band
>     music on "40s on [channel] 4." I was surprised that at 7:30 [removed] they
>     announced it was time for the Bing Crosby show! I felt like I was in
>     a time-warp.

    Many XM music channels are available on Direct TV including the 40's
    channel which is on channel 801.

    It looks like the Bing Crosby show is on twice this week

    [removed]

    Don

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:45:33 -0500
    From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Chicago Whistler

    Ted Kneebone wonders:

>     There are (at least) two versions of this Whistler program. One is dated
>     9/11/49 and stars Frank Nelson and Bill Conrad, from CBS.  The other is
>     dated 9/11/46 and was aired on WBBM, could have been their own production.
>     I do not recognize the actors.  Sponsored by Meisterbau Beer.  I don't know
>     if this went out over the CBS network or not.

    The Chicago version of 'The Whistler" was broadcast on Sunday 9/8/46 on
    WBBM (CBS) sponsored by a an old Chicago beer, Meister Brau that is no
    longer in business. The star was Fahey Flynn who was a radio new
    reporter, with Beverly Younger, Ken Griffin ans Everett Clarke. I don't
    remember ever hearing "The Whistler" on Chicago radio in 1946. I
    recorded the episode from Chuck Schaden's radio, "Those Were The Days"
    program in about 1988.

    Fahey Flynn was a very popular TV anchor on WBBM TV and he moved to WLS
    TV (ABC) and anchored the top rated TV news until his death in 1983.

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:48:23 -0500
    From: Mike Murphy <mikeandzachary@[removed];
    To: OTR DIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: OTR on XM Satellite radio
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    Larry,

    Welcome to satellite radio! Concerning your question about where to find
    OTR, Channel 164 is Radio Classics, a channel entirely of OTR. You may
    also want to try channel 163, Book Radio, for the newer stuff, like
    Harry Nile and The Twilight Zone. Check XM's website for complete
    schedules.

    Mike

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    [ADMINISTRIVIA: For my 2004 review of the RadioClassics channel, see:

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    ...and no, things haven't changed much since then.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:44:41 -0500
    From: <georgewagner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sen-Sen

         The line "the tell-tale scent of Sen-Sen" is heard in every production
    of THE MUSIC MAN.

         Sincerely,

         George Wagner
         georgewagner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:13 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Sen-sen
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>     With a little research I found sen-sen still available, Vermont
>     Country Store sells them for $[removed] a box.

    I remember sen-sen, but not at $[removed] a box.

    Ron

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:19 -0500
    From: rand@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: XM Radio and HD Radio

    Larry Jordan discovered XM radio and it's 40's channel in his new car and
    asked about OTR on the service.

    I've been a subscriber for a few years, first with Sirius and then XM.
    (They merged a few months ago and it's "Sirius-XM Satellite Radio" now.)

    Greg Bell hosts an OTR channel on XM, channel 164.  It plays many popular
    shows - Benny, Fibber McGee and Molly, Dragnet, Lone Ranger, The Shadow,
    etc.  The channel I think has about eight hours of programming each day
    that gets repeated in blocks.

    The shows are provided by Radio Spirits and the quality of the original
    recordings can vary quite a bit, with some sounding like they're coming
    from multi-generational dubs of shows.

    Another issue with it is that the sound is digitally compressed.  The
    channel is blocked with XM's talk channels and doesn't have the fuller
    bandwidth of the music channels.

    My XM receiver is the Pioneer inno, which is a portable that allows you to
    use it in the car, at home, or listen to XM live "on the go".  It's really
    nice for my commutes and my lunch-time walks and also plays MP3 files, so
    I always have something to listen to.

    Overall, I find XM enjoyable and listen to the otr channel sometimes.
    Honestly, I can't listen to over the air radio much anymore - too many
    commercials, bland music playlists and obnoxious djs on the music stations
    and programming on NPR that has become utterly dull.

    In larger markets, some stations are broadcasting in a format called HD
    Radio.  This is a new digital standard that requires a new tuner; it
    allows an FM station to carry multiple digital channels.  The sound
    quality can be quite good if it's run properly and some are offering more
    diverse music.

    For example, the NPR station in Winston-Salem carries a digital version of
    their regular station, and sub-channels devoted to Classical and World
    Music.  North Carolina's flagship NPR station, WUNC, carries one channel,
    a digital version of their regular station, but no sub-channels.

    I'd love to see some NPR stations carrying an OTR subchannel on HD Radio,
    but none are doing so, as far as I know.  NPR affiliates had some great
    otr programming, original dramas and shows with vintage/rare jazz and big
    band back in the 70s and 80s, but they seem to have lost interest in that
    type of programming.

    Randy

    ____________
    Randy A. Riddle
    Mebane, NC

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:47 -0500
    From: "Pamela K. Gitta" <wjmtv@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: OTR on XM Satellite radio

>     Now I am wondering if any of the OTR Digest readers can tell me if there
>     are other old-time radio shows on XM, and if so, when they can be heard and
>     on what channels.

>     Larry Jordan

    You will be thrilled to hear that XM has a station dedicated to OTR. Channel
    164, Radio Classics. Their page at the XM website is
    [removed]

    They don't play a terribly wide range of stuff, preferring to stick to the
    tried & trues, and I think there are a fair number of repeats in any given
    week or two. And another warning: most of the XM talk stations (and this is
    one) have commercials. They're at the top and bottom of every hour, and at
    the fifteen-minute mark. But that doesn't stop me from listening quite a
    bit, especially on longer trips when I didn't think to bring the ol' Ipod.

    Their schedule is posted at the website. They occasionally give episode
    titles.

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:58 -0500
    From: Karen Lerner <kareneflerner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  XM and Sen-Sen
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    With regard to old time radio on XM - there is an entire channel dedicated to
    it.  Channel 164 is the Radio Classics channel and broadcasts old time radio
    24 hours a day.

    With regard to Sen-Sen - I have heard of this, but I must confess that I know
    of it only because of the lyrics of the Billy Joel song "Keeping the Faith".
    There's a line that goes, "With a fresh pack of Luckys and a mint called
    Sen-Sen".

    Karen Lerner
    Radio Spirits

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    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Since we're getting a little far-afield in our discussion
    of XM Satellite Radio and RadioClassics, I've opened a blog entry to
    discuss the service, the radios, how to hook them up, whatever you want to
    discuss (the blog isn't as focused as the [removed], it's as
    unfocused as the guy who runs it). Go to [removed] (you
    may need to scroll down a bit as new entries are added) and use the
    comment fields to post whatever you want on XM Satellite Radio and
    RadioClassics.

    Hopefully AOL-friendly link: <a href="[removed]">[removed]</a>

    --cfs3]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:04:45 -0500
    From: Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Bob Hope

    >From [removed]: "Bob's first radio hit grew out of a personal appearance

>     at New York's Capitol Theater. In the interest of using radio to promote its
>     box-office attractions, the 'Capitol Family Hour' hosted by Major Edward J.
>     Bowes originated from the theater every morning. Bob, as one of the theater
>     attractions, was booked for the show.

    "The show at the Capitol proved to be another career milestone for Bob. It
    marked the first time he appeared with singer Bing Crosby."

    If that's the case that would definitely put the date at 1932.

    That appearance would also lead directly to the "Road" pictures. In 1937
    Crosby hosted a screening for "Sing You Sinners" at his Del Mar Race Track.
    (A screen was erected on the infield.) While the crowd waited for it to get
    dark Crosby entertained and brought up other Paramount stars on stage. When
    Hope came on, he and Crosby lapsed into the act that they had worked out at
    the Capitol five years before. Paramount execs believed they ad libbed the
    whole thing and started making plans to team them up.

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:05:30 -0500
    From: "Mike Harron" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Pearl Harbor Coverage
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    I am actively seeking to collect all available programs from 2 [removed] on Dec 7
    through midnight of Dec 8, 1941 from both NBC networks, CBS and MUT. Using
    Dave Goldin's Index as my source, it appears that nearly total coverage is
    available, at least on NBC, including the overnight programs on those days. I
    currently have a lot of the daytime programs on both days for NBCB, and on Dec
    7 for NBCR, although not many of them are of very good quality.

    Does anyone know if the higher quality shows as described in Dave's Index are
    available and if so, from whom? Guidance of any kind would be most
    appreciated.
    Mike Harron
    [removed]@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:10:14 -0500
    From: Radioclass <radioclass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE:  Radio about radio/Whistler

    In digest #9, Ted Kneebone mentioned that there were two airings of the
    program "Brief Pause for Murder".  One was in 1949 and the other was in 1946.
    The actor in the 1946 airing was Fahey Flynn, a long time newscaster in
    Chicago television.

    Anne

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:10:43 -0500
    From: Grams46@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  DRAGNET AND CSI NY DIALOGUE

    question for those of you who are otr dragnet  fans and also watch csi ny:
    has anyone else noticed the similarity in writing  style between the folks
    (jack webb, etc) who wrote joe friday's lines and those  who are writing mac
    taylor's (csi ny) lines?
    mac taylor's clipped way of  speaking and the inevitable one ironic sentence
    that sums everything up at the  end of a segment or episode reminds me of joe
    friday,
    peace from  kathy
    support our troops; end the war in iraq
    john 3:16

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:11:27 -0500
    From: Grams46@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: sen sen
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    From: Keith Houdeshell <_khowdy@[removed]_ (mailto:khowdy@[removed])

>     how many people remember Sen-Sen. ... How many in the digest remember them?

    i remember sen sen quite well.  my brother used it in the mistaken  belief
    that sen sen would keep our parents in the dark that he  was smoking
    cigarettes.
      (:

    peace from kathy
    support our  troops; end the war in iraq
    john 3:16

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    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:11:54 -0500
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Smoking on radio
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           This is just my opinion, for what it's worth, but I believe that
    smoking
    whether on radio was not so much a comment on what was happening in
    our country at the time as it was a way to strngthen the story being told.
    It wasn't just on radio either. Smoking in the movies of the 30's and 40's
    was quite prevalent too.  I can remember actresses like Bette Davis, Gene
    Tierney, Lana Turner Joan Crawford, and others smoking in movies.  They
    usually
    smoked when portraying a character who was a vamp, or when trying to
    accentuate
    the sensuality of the character.  With actors like Dick Powell, Alan Ladd, or
    Humphrey Bogart (among others) they smoked on camera to make themselves
    or their characters appear either tough or debonair.

           These days, however, actors and actresses don't depend on props like
    cigarettes to enhance their characters on TV and movies.  They prefer to
    utilize
    the writing of their roles and make the most of their talents.  Still, there
    are
    many of them who can accentuate their characters intents, feelings, manner,
    and emotions through the casual tilt of their head or suggestive look.
    Sometimes,
    more can be implied through these subtleties than through the dialogue
    itself.

    Just a thought,

    Kenneth Clarke

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