Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #226
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Date: 7/10/2004 9:05 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 226
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Inaugural Addresses               [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Gunsmoke questions                    [ vigor16@[removed] ]
      Radio Museum Tag Sale!                [ danhughes@[removed] ]
      7-10 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      The Mouse's House                     [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      FAX on WOR in [removed]         [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      Programs I Just Don't Get             [ "evantorch" <etorch@[removed]; ]
      Re: Do recordings of the 1925 & 1929  [ James Meadows <walthamus@[removed]; ]
      Re: Radio Pictures AKA FAX            [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
      Interesting Book but leads to a Scri  [ "David" <dm_dfw@[removed]; ]
      Jay Andres                            [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:46:43 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Inaugural Addresses

    On 7/9/04 12:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     My question is do recordings of the 1925 Calvin Coolidge Inauguration or
>     Herbert Hoover's 1929 inauguration exist, and if so how could one go about
>     getting a copy of them, since neither is likely to be copyrighted any longer?

    The 1925 Inaugural speech was recorded experimentally off the WCAP-WEAF
    line by Western Electric, and pressings survive in the Library of
    Congress. The speech was released as part of a CD/cassette boxed set
    "Historic Presidential Speeches from the Library of Congress" from Rhino
    Records in the late 1990s.

    The recording was made on 12" 78rpm masters using one turntable, so there
    are gaps in the speech between sides. No announcements or broadcast
    commentary are included on the recording with the exception of three
    words spoken by Graham McNamee just before the speech begins: he can be
    heard saying "We are [removed]" and then after a pause Coolidge is sworn
    in by Chief Justice Taft and then moves directly into the Inaugural
    Address.

    No genuine broadcast recordings are known to exist of Hoover's 1929
    inauguration, although sound newsreel footage of the event survives. All
    extant audio of the speech comes from newsreel sources. The National
    Archives would be a good place to check for that material.

    All presidential speeches by all Presidents are considered to be public
    domain. However, rights to any broadcast announcements or commentary
    surrounding those speeches remain with the originating networks or news
    organizations.

    Elziabeth

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:06:41 -0400
    From: vigor16@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gunsmoke questions

    Hi everybody,

    I've been reading, but til now, I haven't a question or two.

    1. In the Gunsmoke series, can anybody tell me if there was a sponsor
    from the beginning of the series.  The MP3 disk I have doesn't have any
    for at least the first 50 eps.  This seems strange.  I thought Post Corn
    Flakes and L&M cigarettes sponsored the program.  Some of my cassette
    recordings have commercials.  Pardon my skepticism, but are we dealing
    with a little revisionism here?  Did we lose some commercials or are we
    bashing cigarettes and cereal?

    2. In the Gunsmoke series, where did Miss Kitty Russel work?  In one
    episode, I have her at the Texas Trail.  In another, she works at the
    Alfraganza, and most eps have her being part owner of the Long Branch.
    Not sure if she held a job at the Long Horn.  Was she having as much
    trouble holding a job as she did holding Matt?

    Don't get me wrong, Gunsmoke is a great series.  Where can we hear about
    the real west anymore?  The law has been on the run from revisionists
    since the trashed 1968 Chicago convention which liberals hold up as a
    great moment in history. The television series seemed to run out of
    gunsmoke somewhere around that time.  Let's hope it wasn't because they
    were up against the Monkees and Rowen and Martin's Laugh in.

    Thanks,

    Deric

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:00:45 -0400
    From: danhughes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Museum Tag Sale!
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    This notice is from Radio World, a mostly-technical trade publication:

    Conn. Museum Plans Second Sale
    How often does a radio museum hold a tag sale?
    If you missed the recent event at the Vintage Radio and Communications
    Museum of Connecticut, you do have another shot; the organization will
    offer more items from its collections for sale on Sept. 11, as part of
    its Summer Swap Meet.
    Items include hundreds of radios from the 1920-70 period, as well as ham
    gear, radio history books and repair parts.
    "In June we sold over $8,500 worth of equipment during our first tag
    sale," President John Ellsworth stated. "While that was fantastic, there
    were portions of our collection that had not even been sorted."
    The museum also has tens of thousands of records "and other stuff too,"
    according to the museum's Chris Watts.
    The money raised will go toward furthering the mission of the museum.
    The event takes place 6 [removed] to 1 [removed] on Sept. 11 in Windsor, Conn. For
    information visit [removed].

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:00:54 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  7-10 births/deaths

    July 10th births

    07-10-1889 - Graham McNamee - Washington, [removed] - d. 5-9-1942
    announcer: "Fleischmann Hour"; "Fire Chief"; "Treasury Hour"
    07-10-1905 - Thomas Gomez - NYC - d. 6-18-1971
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    07-10-1920 - David Brinkley - Wilmington, NC - d. 6-11-2003
    newscaster: WRC Washington [removed]; "Nightline"
    07-10-1921 - Jeff Donnell - South Windham, ME - d. 4-13-1988
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    07-10-1923 - Earl Hamner, Jr. - Schuyler, VA
    writer: "NBC University Theatre of the Air"
    07-10-1926 - Fred Gwynne - NYC - d. 7-2-1993
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    July 10th deaths

    05-30-1908 - Mel Blanc - San Francisco, CA - d. 7-10-1989
    actor: Professor Pierre La Blanc "Jack Benny Program"; August Moon "Point
    Sublime"
    06-27-1875 - Reginald Mason - San Francisco, CA - d. 7-10-1962
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-11-1909 - Robert Ryan - Chicago, IL - d. 7-10-1973
    actor: "Document A/777"; "Hollywood Star Playhouse"; "Suspense"
    12-17-1896 - Arthur Fiedler - South Boston, MA - d. 7-10-1979
    conductor: "Robert Merrill with the Boston Pops Orchestra"; "Boston Pops"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:37:05 -0400
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Mouse's House

>     Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:12:54 -0400
>     From: Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed];

    Dear Lee & Gang-

>     "Fantasia ... BTW, I've always regretted that Mr.
>     Disney chose never to issue his planned sequel(s).

    The Waltsicle never got around to it, but the new segment finally happened a
    few years ago - to lackluster reviews.

>     In my opinion, I think that his successors virtually ruined that masterpiece
>     by issuing it with a new soundtrack some years back.

    I THINK that the "new, inproved" score met with scorn on all sides, and has
    since been replaced with the original, primitive stereo version.

    (Proving, as Harlan Ellison says, "You don't ---- with The Mouse!")

    Best,
    -Craig

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:37:35 -0400
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  FAX on WOR in [removed]

    The question of whether or not facsimiles were sent via radio has been
    discussed, linked, speculated upon, etc. here.  I have a recording of an
    experimental broadcast from 1938 that was aired on WOR.  Runs 9:00 and I
    think was originally aired on "late night radio" sometime in 1938.  Got this
    from Misty Dawn Lane's website several years ago.
        Frank Knight introduces Dan Driscoll who tells about the process.  It
    will produce a 2-column sheet of paper:  the first "WOR Radio Print."  J. R.
    Poppele, chief engineer of WOR, is interviewed and tells what facsimile is
    and how it works.  A recording is played of the sound of what the
    transmission will sound like beginning at 2:00 am.  [removed] Finch was the
    inventor.
        "The receiver will cost $125 to begin with, but much less when they are
    put into mass production and it is on display at Bambergers."
        Anyone who wants a copy of this and some other odds and ends, write me
    directly.

    Ted Kneebone/1528 S. Grant [removed], SD 57401/605-226-3344
    OTR: [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:22:53 -0400
    From: "evantorch" <etorch@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Programs I Just Don't Get

    I have always found it interesting to find out why someone is NOT a fan of
    something as well as why they are. I know this is a tad negative but it is
    at least thought provoking!
    So hear we go---six programs where I just can't see what other people see:

    1) Abbot and Costello-- a thousand redundant variations of What's On First?
    2) The Screen Guild Theater---dead audience miking, ridiculous condensations
    and the constipated announcing of "Lady Esther"-- to make matters worse, it
    is on CBS on Mondays so it sounds even worse compared to LUX.
    3) Mr. Chameon--Holy Potatas Captain--these plots are for three year olds!
    4) Arthur Godfrey-- sorry Lee; what was worse, the ukelele or the incessant
    plugs for Lipton? Amphetamines please for the audience.
    5)The Third Man---what a tragedy; Orson Welles in a broadcast with super
    canned sound effects, contrived endings from nowhere and none of the Harry
    Lime villainy.
    6) Finally,Philco Radio Time---what Bing Crosby could have done with this if
    he had cared.

    Evan Torch, MD
    Atlanta
    etorch@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:23:16 -0400
    From: James Meadows <walthamus@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Do recordings of the 1925 & 1929
     Inaugural

       I don't know anything about the 1925 inaugural. But
    when I visited the Herbert Hoover birthplace and
    museum in West Branch, Iowa, a few years ago, I saw a
    video presentation which included audio of Hoover's
    inaugural in 1929, synchronized to film (talkies were
    just coming in, of course). I'm afraid I don't
    remember if it was audio of just the swearing-in, or
    of the inaugural speech, or both. There are no details
    readily available on the Hoover birthplace website,
    but you might want to contact them:
    [removed]

    --Jim Meadows

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    Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:53:49 -0400
    From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Radio Pictures AKA FAX

    The transmission of pictures/words via radio or wire line has been
    around  as long as radio itself.  The following is from Radio Broadcast
    Magazine, September 1927.

    "During the years of 1924 and 1925 two demonstrations of phototelegraphy
    wee given, one by radio and the other by wire. These were milestones in
    the progress of the art of transmitting pictures to distant points by
    electricity. The first demonstration, making use of the system developed
    by R. H. Ranger (see note below) of the Radio Corporation of America,
    was given on December 2nd, 1924, when pictures were transmitted from New
    York to London utilizing a mechanisim with which the picture is produced
    by means of a pen making ink marks on paper. In 1925, a second system,
    developed in the Bell Telephone Laboratories, was demonstrated, and the
    system was adapted to use to full advantage the facilities of the Bell
    system. It made use of photo-electric cells which are sensitive to light
    and which are capable of controlling electric currents in accordance
    with the strength of the light impressed upon the cell. The Bell system
    is similar in many ways to the Korn system  with which, in 1907, some
    very good pictures were transmitted from Paris to London."

    Pictures of some of the equipment used to send and receive early radio
    FAX can be viewed at:
    [removed]

    Note: Richard H. Ranger was also the developer of the NBC Rangertone
    chimes machines which automated the famous chimes. - BH

    Bill H.

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    Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:54:17 -0400
    From: "David" <dm_dfw@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Interesting Book but leads to a Script
     Question

    I am reading an interesting book about OTR called "Great American Broadcast"
    (pub 1997) by Leonard Maltin.  It brakes down the radio profession into
    writing, directing, sound effect, acting, announcing, sponsors, etc.

    I notice on page 120, he quotes Adele Ronson who stated that "Alot of people
    dropped pages on the floor as they finished".  I am not sure of her
    background or when she worked in the field.

    I understand why someone might drop the pages, but having slipped and fallen
    due to paper left on a hard floor, I can not see why any sudio manager would
    allow this to occur unless an actor had their own work area and did not move
    far from the mike.

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    Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 09:54:57 -0400
    From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jay Andres
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    A friend of Jay Andres asked me to post this news to the list, he does not
    have a computer.  Jay was the popular host of the American Airlines, "Music
    Til Dawn" overnight radio show on WBBM in Chicago and a personality on other
    stations in the Midwest.  He is now in hospital in serious conditon at age 80.
    He an his wife, Ginny, would appreciate hearing from friends and colleagues at
    this special time.

    Their mailing address:   Joseph Andres
                                            15550 Burnt Store Road, #45
                                            Punta Gorda, FL 33955-9336

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