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                          Last Updated 10-28-96

[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 488

Table Of Contents: 

	 Self-referential sitcoms
	 Updates at [removed]
	 Old Radio Never Dies ...
	 Re: Old Time Radio Logs
	 Re: Christmas Show Question
	 Re: Starlink
	 Boris Karloff
	 RE: RADIO AND WORLD WAR 2.
	 Straight Arrow
	 Blue Screens
	 NBC Screensaver

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:44:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Elizabeth Thomsen <et@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Self-referential sitcoms
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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I was listening to the first episode of "The Great Gildersleeve" which (as
I'm sure you know!) was a spin-off from "Fibber McGee and Molly."  The
episode opens with a train pulling into the station at Wistful Vista, with
Gildersleeve on the platform saying goodbye to his employees.  The opening
dialogue, however, is between the conductor and a woman on the train, who
says something like "Oh, Wistful Vista!  Isn't that where Fibber McGee and
Molly live?"  When he points out Gildy to her, she says, "Oh, so that's
Mr. Gildersleeve!"  Nobody mentions the radio or radio program explicitly,
but it's certainly implied that the woman "knows" the people from the
radio.

I know there are many radio programs like Jack Benny or Burns and Allen
where they don't pretend it's real-- the show is about the show, so to
speak, but I don't think I've heard anything quite like this before, where
a drama-style (rather than variety-show-style) sitcom has a small break in
the suspension of disbelief.  Any comments?


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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 16:26:09 GMT
From: lgenco@[removed] (Lou Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Updates at [removed]
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Nominations and votes for inclusion in the "Essential OTR List" have
been ongoing for about a year.  The interim summary has been updated
as of today, and the top 75 OTR programs listed.

More short soundbytes have been added (in RA format) for those of you
who want to tickle your memory or hear some memorable sounds from the
"Golden Age of radio".

A link to Lois Culver's #OldRadio Internet Relay Chat group has been
added.  If your browser is properly configured, you will be able to
click on the prompt and be immediately transported to a server
containing Lois' IRC channel.

Some sub-pages on the history of radio programs have been added.

The OTR Bulletin Board is going strong, with Jack French graciously
contributing -answers- to many questions.

The OTR FAQ, list of stations currently broadcasting OTR and several
other informative documents are updated periodically.



Lou
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 16:26:12 GMT
From: lgenco@[removed] (Lou Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Old Radio Never Dies ...
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Looking for endings to the phrase "Old radio never dies, it just ..."

some candidates might be:
"... fades away."
"... suffers from QRM." (only Hams might appreciate that)
"... reappears on tape."

Do you have an appropriate witticism to add to the end of the phrase?
If so, let's hear it!


Lou
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:53:15 -0500
From: Terry Salomonson <terryotr@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Old Time Radio Logs
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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At 11:22 12/16/96 CST, you wrote:
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>
>I read, with some interest, that I was mentioned by several of the readers
about my LONE RANGER broadcast log.  There was also a mention of whether or
not that I was a receiver of the OTR Digest (electronic version).  Yes, I do
read each issue.  For those that would like to contact me, please use the
following:

     Snail Mail:  Terry Salomonson
                  [removed] Box 347
                  Howell, MI 48844-0347
                  517-545-2775 (FAX Number)

     Or email me at:  terryotr@[removed]

     Logs that are currently available directly from me are:

          Dragnet                     12 pages
          Challenge Of The Yukon      29 pages
          The Green Hornet            28 pages
          Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar  50 pages
          Suspense                    56 pages  NEW
          The CBS Westerns            67 pages  NEW
          The Lone Ranger            106 pages
          Escape                     142 pages

     If readers need help in correctly identifying radio broadcasts, drop me
an email and I'll see if I can help.  I maintain over 175 radio broadcasts
logs in my computer and will be releasing several more logs within the next
month or so.

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:03:01 -0500
From: LBohall@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Christmas Show Question
Message-ID: <961217120300_1221424441@[removed]>

2 years ago my family and I were listening to a syndicated OTR special on
Christmas Day. It featured a clip from a show centered around a train which
was stuck in the snow. Everyone was afraid they weren't going to get home for
Christmas, and they were going to have to strike out for a small town nearby
(I think the town was named Bethlehem, but can't remember for sure). The show
didn't cite the source of the program, and didn't finish [removed] only ran
that one short clip. 

Does anyone recognize the story? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks and Happy Holidays all!

"I'd rather fail at something I love, than succeed at something I hate."
George Burns

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:12:00 -0500
From: LBohall@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Starlink
Message-ID: <961217121200_1921002058@[removed]>

I'm [removed] will show what a novice I am, but how does one access the
OTR show on Starlink? I would really like to join in, but don't know how. A
technical note: I access the web via AOL (if that makes a difference).
Thanks! LBohall

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:16:12 -0400
From: John M Eccles Jr <jeccles@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Boris Karloff
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I just want to take the opportunity to thank everyone on the OTR Digest
who responded to my inquiry re Boris Karloff's radio shows.  The
information was most welcome and has been included in the log which will
appear in the book's appendix.  I have sent the names of everyone who
contributed to Scott Nollen, the author, so your names can be included
in the acknowledgements section.

If I can ever be of help to anyone on the OTR Digest re an OTR question
or looking for a particular show, please get in touch with me at
jeccles@[removed] and I will do what I can to help you.  

Again, many thanks for all the responses.

John Eccles

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:32:47 -0500
From: NORIAC@[removed]
To:   otr@[removed]
Subject: RE: RADIO AND WORLD WAR 2.
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

X-URL: [removed]~wdp/OTR_[removed]
X-Mailer: Lynx, Version [removed]
X-Personal_name: Joseph Gallant
X-From: notquite@[removed]

Speaking about Bob Hope, he suposedely did only three shows from NBC's
 west coast studios (which in those pre-TV days were on Sunset and Vine in
 Hollywood) between the start of 1942 and the end of the war. During the
 "radio season" (September-June), Bob would usually broadcast from a [removed]
 military base somewhere around the nation (or sometimes in Canada), while
 he would go on an international trip at Christmastime (often doing live
 radio shows each Tuesday from wherever he would be) and a longer world
 tour during the summer, when he wasn't on the air.

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 96 12:12 PST
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Straight Arrow
Message-Id: <m0va5s5-000PXpC@[removed]>
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Hello,
I recently obtained the first Straight Arrow episode and noticed that 
Randy Culver was one of the characters -- any connection with the 
Howard Culver that was the voice of SA?   (Lois would probably 
know this one).
Also, did Steve's horse have a name (not SA's horse, Fury)?
Did Packy have a last name?  Did Packy's horse have a name?
Thanks for any help?
Pat Premo

Pat, often when doing a radio show and they needed a name,  they would use
the name of one of the [removed] Randy was given his last name of
Culver from Howard Culver's name.  In fact, later in TV, Howard Culver's
name as hotel clerk in the Dodge House was "Howie".

I dont recall a name for Steve's horse - he usually just called him bronc,
but I do not think as a name.  Packy's horse was Paint.  Even in the article
written by Straight Arrow writer Sheldon Stark,telling of the beginning of
Straight Arrow, he did not give Packy a last name.

For the man who could give you any information on Straight Arrow right off
the top of his head, I recommend Bill Harper, 301 East Buena Vista Ave,
North Augusta, SC 29841 who has been collecting an dispensing Straight Arrow
memorabilia for many years. 

Lois Culver

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:43:14 -0600 ()
From: Bruce Toews <toews@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Blue Screens
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

This is the last time I'll bother the OTR readership with a note about
Blue Screens. If you want to punish me, you can force me to listen to 30
hours of solid Liptin Tea commercials off of Inner Sanctum. Can those of
you who tole me you were having weird things happen to your screen as a
result of my posts let me know if that problem still exists? I don't know
what the administrative gurus did, but Pine is now putting the time zone
in correctly. So please let me know if the problem is solved. Thank you
all for your patience through this.

Bruce

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Date: 17 Dec 96 21:05:59 EST
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: NBC Screensaver
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Somewhere recently the old eyeballs ran across instructions on how to get the
NBC screensaver installed and I can't remember where.  If anyone can give this
computer neophyte some instructions it would be appreciated.

Recently I have posted the last of my 15 pair of Philip Marlowe reviews to this
page. If anyone interested in pulling them all at once they can be found on the
page 
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That's 30 for tonight
NGC
Norman Cox (No relation to Chet Cox unless he is fabulously rich)



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