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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 149


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Adam Link
	 Re: Ray Bradbury
	 Lucky Stripes
	 Who is Stan Freeburg?
	 Re: Ethel and Albert
	 MORE THOUGHTS ON OTR
	 Ethel & Albert
	 Ethel & Albert
	 Ethel & Albert & etc.
	 Ruby Begonia?
	 The Yacht Club Boys 30/40s

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 23:15:29 -0700
From: Scott Ciencin <ciencin@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Adam Link
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Adam Link, Robot, was adapted to television by both the original and the 
current versions of Outer Limits.  You can rent the old version in video 
stores.  Not only was Leonard Nimoy in the old version, but he is also in 
the new one--playing a different character--and his son directed the 
remake!

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 23:24:57 -0700
From: Scott Ciencin <ciencin@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: Ray Bradbury
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

NPR did a series about 10 years ago called "Bradbury 13."  They have been 
released to bookstores and recently I've seen them in drugstores with a 
single tape featuring 2 episodes priced at $[removed]  They were acquired by 
a company specializing in single tape dramas and adaptations.  They have 
ISBN #s, so anyone in a bookstore with a decent computer should be able 
to track them down and order them for you.  These are beautiful 
adaptations in 3D sound ala the Star Wars series.  Just gorgeous.  And 
don't forget about the "Ray Bradbury Theater" TV series.  

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:32:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bruce Toews <bruce@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lucky Stripes
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi. One of the things about the Jack Benny Show that I particularly 
enjoyed was the Sportsmen and their Lucky Stripes commercials. When the 
Sportsmen joined the cast in, I believe, 1946, did they start right off 
with their original commercial ideas?

Plus, the only copy of the first episode for Lucky Stripes that I've seen 
advertised is an AFRS edition. This would be somewhat self-defeating, 
since they would have taken out the commercial. Does a network version of 
this episode exist somewhere?

Bruce

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:55:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Who is Stan Freeburg?
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I have mixed feelings about whether Stan Freeburg is OTR or
not.  He certainly wasn't mainstream OTR.  But he was good
and I enjoyed him and I still enjoy the couple of tapes I
have of his.

But it's obvious that a lot of people here do consider him
to be otr.  It seems to me that if 2 people think he is and
want to discuss him that we should be open to it.  If we
start culling and only talk about those we all agree on, we
might eliminate someone I like.

Further, I found the discussion of Stan Freeburg interesting,
partly because I enjoy him and partly because it was a
surprise to me that he was being considered as otr.  Not an
unpleasant surprise, by the way.

I'd much rather see our range be too wide than too narrow.

Barry

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 02:56:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: Matthew561@[removed]
Subject: Re: Ethel and Albert
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Okay, so I went to the Cincinnati convention and the "Ethel and 
> Albert" recreations were hilarious. Naturally, I wanted to add more
> than the meager sample I already had to my [removed] I thought 
> clean Vic and Sade tapes were rare!!!! 
>
> I have found 4 hours total in all the vendor catalogs that I normally 
> do business with including two collector's clubs.  Is that all there 
> is?  If anyone knows of a source for these shows, please let me know.  
> Thanks  
> Matthew Mark Drew  

	I too went on a quest for Ethel & Albert after seeing a live 
presentation in Newark, with Bob Dryden sharing the microphone with Peg 
Lynch (Bob was great in the role too).
	I got one reel (about 6 hours) from Echoes of the Past (Ron Barnett)
Box  9593, Alexandria, VA 22304  phone (703) 751-3238.  By the way, Ron pays
me fabulously whenever I mention his name*, plus he has the shows in 
question, as others do as well, no doubt.
	The sad fact is, this seems to be all that exist.  Also sad is that
they aren't in very good fidelity (no reflection on most of the shows 
I've gotten from ECHOES, just what exists of Ethel and Albert).
	The show apparently went through format changes over the years, and
what there is on tape from the old days didn't impress me as much as the 
quality of the various live shows I've seen over the years - they have always
been the high point, for me, of any convention where the show has been done.
	Didn't Peg lynch also do something called THE COUPLE NEXT DOOR in 
the 70s during one of those revival attempts?  If I remember correctly, 
these are more in line with the style of the recreations of ETHEL & ALBERT. 

	*Ron, as well as Bob Burnham, Andy Blatt, Radio Showcase, AVPRO, 
and now Adventures in Cassettes have all contributed generously at one 
time or another to the WBAI fundraising drives with premium tapes, etc.
and are all deserving of plugs from me, because they all further the hobby.
	-Max Schmid "Golden Age of Radio"  WBAI NY

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 10:09:16 EDT
From: claughli@[removed] (Charles Laughlin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MORE THOUGHTS ON OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@superior>

Something clicked in my admittedly scrambled head with both Bruce's
complaint and Joseph's earlier proclamation that dramatic radio is
alive and well on the BBC.  I think there may be two mindsets
represented in this family, one that takes OTR literally as meaning
radio programming before a certain date (say, before the demise of
YTJD), and another that uses OTR as a reference for fine radio drama
"like it was in the golden age", but taken from wherever we can find
it.  I seem to be of the latter kind.  I love Sherlock Holmes programs
for instance and will listen to them from any period.  And I can't get
enough of CBS Radio Mystery Theater, or for that matter, Cape Cod
Mystery Theater, or the CBC's Nightfall or Vanishing Point, or their
incredible 13 episodes of hour long Nero Wolf's broadcast in the
1980s.

I suddenly realize that OTR is only OTR for me because in my
country(ies) they all but stopped broadcasting good radio drama after
TV took over, but if they started broadcasting it again, I would
listen to it as avidly as I do the Gunsmoke of the 50s or Chandu the
Magician of the 30s.  What is important to me about OTR is still being
produced in Britain, and I collect as much of it as I can find,
especially the marvelous science fiction, thriller and horror stories
they do so well.

So, that said, my social scientist mind wants to know from all of my
friends on the Digest, how real is this hypothesis that there are two
mindsets represented on this Digest?  Are some of you more like me and
others of you more like, say, Bruce (sorry for singling you out
there!) who appears to mean by OTR an actual, definable historical
period?

[removed]
Charlie
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Date: 24 Apr 96 10:57:04 EDT
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Ethel & Albert
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

>Matthew Mark Drew wrote re: Ethel & Albert:

>I have found 4 hours total in all the vendor catalogs that I normally 
>do business with including two collector's clubs.  Is that all there 
>is?  If anyone knows of a source for these shows, please let me know.

Only a few of the original ETHEL & ALBERT episodes from the 40s are availabe,
however most of the 1957-58 CBS radio run under the name THE COUPLE NEXT DOOR is
available (c. 220-250 15-minute daily episodes).   It is Ethel & Albert -- in
fact, some of scripts from the 40s were redone on this program.   Also available
are a few THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE, a mid-70s syndicated effort to revive the
program with Bob Dryden in place of Alan Bunce who died in 1965.  

Check with the dealers -- I believe Ed Carr (Cassettes Now) and McCoy's,
Redmond, WA, have several available, and I'm sure other dealers have them as
well.

Peg Lynch has been a mainstay of our annual Radio Classics Live nights in Boston
for the past seven years, and her recreations are hilarious -- they are her best
scripts, and Peg is better than ever as a performer.  After hearing her perform
today, however, you may find THE COUPLE NEXT DOOR disappointing.  In the
15-minute format the story lines stretched over several days, and while many of
the situations were amusing, they didn't have the sharpness and punch of the
skits she does at the recreations.   

We are putting together an audio tape of all the Ethel & Albert skits Peg has
done here in Boston over the past seven years which should make an outstanding
collection.  Her costars here have included Bob Dryden, Fred Foy and Bob
Hastings.  All proceeds from sale of this tape will go to the Peg Lynch
Scholarship Fund at Massasoit Community College.  As soon as the tape is ready,
we'll post here with info.   
 
Alan Chapman
[removed]@compuserve

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Date: 24 Apr 96 11:18:36 EDT
From: "Ann A. Davenport" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Ethel & Albert
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Matthhew,
I totally agree with you on your comments about the ETHEL & ALBERT recreations
at the
Cincinnati convention.  I only know of about 6 hours of ETHEL & ALBERT shows
available.
However, Peg Lynch did the same type of show later (with the same people) called
THE
COUPLE NEXT DOOR.  There are over 750 of these broadcasts in circulation.  She
also did
the same type of show in the mid 70's with Bob Dryden.  All of these should be
in circulation.
I asked her at the convention why on THE COUPLE NEXT DOOR the couple's first
names
were never mentioned.  She told me that they were never given first names as she
couldn't
use the names Ethel & Albert for some reason.  Ted Davenport

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 11:31:20 -0400
From: FabFicBks@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ethel & Albert & etc.
Message-ID: <960424113119_381723186@[removed]>

Hi Everybody,
     Comments on the scarcity of Ethel & Albert material rang a bell with me
as well.  I've been looking for more Peg Lynch material for several years
now, and it just isn't out there.  There is a long long run of "The Couple
Next Door" which was a comedy soap opera she did in the late fifties (no
openings, closings or commercials, just the bodies of the programs, alas),
but not much else.
     However, Peg Lynch and Bob Dryden did a recreated Ethel & Albert series
in the middle 1970's which was suposed to be syndicated, but which I believe
wound up on PBS.  Someone mentioned that it was part of the Earplay series.
 Surely some of these programs must be around.  I have heard some Earplay
programs and Ethel & Albert are not part of the show.  In fact, the shows I
have heard were pretty dull and meandering slice of life ho-hum mundane
dramas.  Of course, I've only heard about four of the things  and never
bothered to tape them off the air in the 1970's.
     Other people have told me many of the Earplay shows were excellent and I
should give the series another chance.  The question however, for anybody who
has the show in their collection, is whether the recreated Ethel & Albert
shows, possibily under a different name, but starring Peg Lynch and Bob
Dryden, were part of this series, and if so, are they up for trade?  Except
for this there may be no surviving Ethel & Albert material from the original
days of network radio.
     Which means, of course, that Peg's upcoming bok of scripts from Ethel &
Albert will be even more important.
     On another subject; I agree that Stan Freberg is indeed pertinent to old
time radio, I think several people are tired of reading the same answers to
the same questions, the same followups to those answers about fifteen times
over.  The difficulity of course, is that in a forum such as this which
reaches about a thousand people, there is going to be duplication of effort
when someone touches a subject the individual reader knows something about.
 Its part of the big picture.  I personally scan over dupicate answers at
about the same speed I whiz by all the discussions of RealAudio, which is to
say, very rapidly indeed.
     Someone asked about Big Jon and Sparky again.  This subject was covered
about four months back in great detail.  I believe Lou still maintains a log
of the digests sorted by subject thread.  The best solution is to scan the
back logs and check out that discussion which covered Big Jon in considerable
depth.
     The best place to get stills of Willard Waterman, Harold Peary and other
radio stars is thru movie memoribillia stores.  These businesses operate in
and around many large citites and many more can be contacted by mail order
thru hobby publications such as "The Big Reel" and "Movie Collectors World".
     The radio networks and production companies sometimes make publicity
stills to hand out to radio magazines and newspaper critics, but not many of
these have survived very well.  On the other hand, the movie studios turned
out publicity stills and ad promo copy by the tons, sent it to everybody on
the planet, and vast amounts of that stuff is still around.  The movie stores
have tese for sale, and with rare photo stills, they often sell repo photos
of the original at affordable prices (movie publicity stills were not
copyrighted and were distributed free to be inserted in newspapers and mags
to increase publicity awareness of the film the stills/studio exploitation
were pushing).
     There should be plenty of photos of major radio stars around at pretty
affordable prices.  Or you could just buy some old radio mags or check the
newspaper radio pages of old newspapers at your library.

---Bob Jennings

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Date: 24 Apr 96 14:08:59 EDT
From: Bill Slankard <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "OTR@[removed]" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Ruby Begonia?
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Maybe someone out there can help convince me that I'm not
hallucinating.

A phrase that I've known for as long as I can remember is
"Does the name Ruby Begonia strike a familiar chord?".
I can't remember where I heard this, but I suspect it was
from the Amos'n'Andy television show.

Is anyone else familiar with this quote?

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:24:19 -0700
From: Info Request <[removed]@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: The Yacht Club Boys 30/40s
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Can anyone help with some clues on who the Yacht Club Boys were ?

All I know is they were a New York variety act/group and they appeared
in a 1936 film "pigskin parade" that starred 14yr old Judy Garland.

The review credits the Yacht Club Boys as themselves.  So I pressume
at the time everyone knew who they were.

Any clues gratefully received

Thaks Rob Lapes
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