Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #114
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Date: 4/12/2001 9:10 PM

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                          The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 01 : Issue 114
                       A Part of the [removed]!
                               ISSN: 1533-9289

                               Today's Topics:

     Re: Today's Radio News               ["Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed]]
     Re: Mp3                              [Fred Berney <berney@[removed];      ]
     Modern Times                         ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
     Re: MP3                              [Fred Berney <berney@[removed];      ]
     MAGIC ISLAND                         ["Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed]]
     digital                              [Joe Salerno <salernoj@[removed];  ]
     Lots of Canadian Shows!              [Doug Kosmonek <Doug_Kosmonek@telus.]
     Re: Your Hit Parade                  [Cnorth6311@[removed]                 ]
     Sir Harry Secombe                    ["Steven Murphy" <smurphy4@[removed]]
     Horatio Hornblower                   ["Henry R. Hinkel" <hinkel@[removed]]
     Cape Cod Mystery Theter              [Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed]]
     Scariest Broadcast                   ["Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];    ]

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    Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:20:30 -0400
    From: "Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Today's Radio News

    Lennell, there will be no problem getting from the
    airport to the hotel. Sharonville is way north of
    where the touble was.  There is no reason to be
    concerned. The "riots" at this time are over.
    They were centered in one small area of Cincinnati.
    The news made more of it than it was.
    Bob Burchett

>     On today's news all the way here in Northern Virginia they were
>     highlighting the Race Riots in Cincinnati.

>     Any truth to it? Any reason to be concerned? Is Sharonville involved?
>     Should I anticipate any difficulty in getting from the airport to the
>     Hotel on Wednesday?

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:31:49 -0400
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Mp3

    Joe Salerno asks if anyone is trading reel to reel. My entire library is on
    reel to reel. From those masters I have created cassette masters and CD
    masters. I prefer to trade with reel to reel, but will probably trade via
    audio CD.

    I just outbid a person on ebay for a 16" transcription disk. After the
    auction, I emailed her and found out she has thousands of hours of shows on
    reel to reel tape acquired from transcription transfers. I'm hoping I can
    work out some trades with her.

    Joe, you bring out a good point about what can happen to an mp3 file once
    it hits the Internet. It is for this reason I'd like to see some standards
    for serious collectors.

    A 128 kps [removed] file if created from a high quality source could be traded
    from collector to collector without any apparent degradation in quality.
    This would mean trading with disc via mail as opposed to the Internet, but
    we've been trading for years via the mail so that sound not be a problem.

    Actually, a CD cost a lot less to mail than a reel to reel tape. I think it
    even may be cheaper to mail than a cassette.

    If someone wants to mess things up, they can do it with analog or digital.
    The format doesn't really matter.

    Right now the Internet is loaded with programs in very small file format
    and I would guess questionable quality. For someone that wants quantity, go
    for it. I really wonder if there are enough hours in ones life time to
    listen to 16,000 shows.

    Those that are looking for quality should trade as before only in a digital
    format. 10 generations of an analog dub is enough to lower the quality of
    sound. 100 generations of a digital file will sound like the first.

    This is the quality we should be striving for. Digital give us the ability
    of knowing that we can maintain minimum sound quality loss when trading.
    Why not take advantage of it.

    Fred
    For the best in Old Time Radio Shows [removed]
    New e-commerce page [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:32:36 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Modern Times

    Gloria, responding to Dave Phanehuf's observations that perhaps things
    were more innocent during the OTR era than now, when talking about a
    "dressing contest," notes,

> >     I really have to say this. I am so tired of people putting modern

    standards to past events or ideas. Thank you David Pharneuf! Bless you <<

    Two thoughts:

    *  It's almost ironic to think where "modern standards" are situated.
    Jim Harmon has some comments on this situation in both versions of his
    Great Radio Heroes.

    *  Thinking back to my state of mind back then, I still suspect that a
    kid might feel a little weird if his or her privacy became truncated.
    _Not_ for concerns about paedophilic oldsters, but because we all require
    our space, and I'd be concerned that somebody might be able to see me in
    the privacy of my room.  No more.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:33:24 -0400
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: MP3

    One more thing. Eventually either cable or satellite Internet connection
    will become a standard. At that time, trading large files via the Internet
    will make sense since the transfer time will be greatly reduced. So, a 128
    kbs file will not take all that long to make it from sender to receiver.

    Fred
    For the best in Old Time Radio Shows [removed]
    New e-commerce page [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:43:43 -0400
    From: "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  MAGIC ISLAND

    Thank you to everybody who replied to my enquiry regarding Magic island.
    The answer regarding the number of episodes is definately 130.  Jerry and I
    have discussed this one back and forth by e-mail and we think that maybe
    there is a discrepancy earlier in the episodes and maybe a couple of
    episodes are missing or wrongly named.

    As I intended to write a brief description of each episode anyway, it would
    appear that I will spend my Easter break (here in Australia with Public
    Holidays it equates to 4 days off in a row) and listen to each episode.  By
    the end of the break I will have the answer, or a lot more questions.  Its a
    tough job but somebody has to do it.

    If I am having this much trouble with 128 episodes, then I really feel for
    those people cleaning up and categorising larger collections that take up to
    6 or 8 CD's.

    Ian

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:43:41 -0400
    From: Joe Salerno <salernoj@[removed];
    To: OTR List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  digital

    I think Jean and I will have to agree to disagree about the digital
    discussion, but we seem to be moving towards middle ground after the last
    post.

    <<<But, by the nature
    of the medium, a copy of a copy of a copy of a digital file is
    degradation-free.

    And for the quality of our OTR recordings and the nature of the sound data,
    I defy anyone to detect the difference between the original and a 192kb or
    better [removed];>>

    The quality may be VERY good but it is not completely free, errors do occur.
    I wouldn't imagine it would be audible unless it was very severe over a LOT
    of generations.

    I just downloaded a Lone Ranger from the RS site, and while quiet, it is not
    artifact or distortion free by any means. 16 kbps. I agree that a 192 kbps
    compression is quite good, and that some OTR doesn't start with excellent
    sound anyway though some of it does. But does most trading happen at 192 or
    much lower rates? In my experience it is lower, and that is where the sound
    quality disappears.

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:19:41 -0400
    From: Doug Kosmonek <Doug_Kosmonek@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lots of Canadian Shows!

>         I have been trying to find a source where I might
>     purchase a program called " Nightfall " it used to be
>     broadcast on the CBC in Canada. I am also interested
>     in other Canadian shows that you might have. If you
>     dont mind I am using a friends computer but if you
>     e-mail any answers to  " pappleyard_ca@[removed] "
>     he says he will get them to me. I thank you for your
>     help.
>     Peter Appleyard

        Peter,

        Go to the Canadian Traders web page, when you get
    onto the site click onto my name "Doug Kosmonek"
    and it will then take you to my web site. Once there
    among the many different sections, you'll find one on
    Canadian otr shows.  By golly I even have some shows
    called "Jazz From Canada" which on one of them the
    guest star is no other than yourself,
    ThePeter Appleyard Quartet.

    The address for the traders page is below.
    Hope this helps.

    Regards

    Doug Kosmonek

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:19:39 -0400
    From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Your Hit Parade

    1935 - "Your Hit Parade," debuts on radio.

    Charlie

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:19:35 -0400
    From: "Steven Murphy" <smurphy4@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sir Harry Secombe

    Sir Harry Secombe of The Goon Show died from prostrate cancer on Wednesday
    night. The Goon Show is probably Britain's most famous radio program and its
    'zany' humour inspired many future comedians including most of the Monty
    Python team.

    The Daily Telegraph (available electronically at [removed])
    reports on Sir Harry's passing on pages 1, 3 and 33.

    Steven.

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:19:37 -0400
    From: "Henry R. Hinkel" <hinkel@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Horatio Hornblower

    I picked up about 25-30 episodes of Horatio Hornblower in the early 70's
    when I first started collecting OTR.  I enjoyed these programs so much I
    began looking for more but could never find any.

    About 15 years ago I was fortunate to find a source for all 52 episodes.  It
    took two years to obtain the complete series of programs.  None of the shows
    had titles, so I kept the titles of the circulating shows for identification
    purposes and assigned new titles to the "lost" episodes.  With these titles,
    I created the first Horatio Hornblower log.

    The series sat in my collection until 1996 when a collector friend of mine
    found out I had the complete run of shows and asked me to bring a set for
    him to the Newark Convention.  I brought a set for him plus a few extra
    sets.  When several vendors found out I had the complete run, they came for
    a set too.  I could not believe at that time that I was the only one that
    had all 52 episodes in my collection.

    Also, at the convention, I talked with Penny Fabb, the very knowledgeable
    collector from England.  She said that even in England all episodes of
    Hornblower were not available and she had to obtain some copies from
    collectors in the states.  She was very pleased to be able to now complete
    her collection from my collection.

    Regarding edited [removed]  Penny said that none of the shows were
    edited.  Program length varied from 22 minutes to 29 minutes as the scripts
    were written.  It does seem odd because in other Towers Productions the
    programs were very consistent time wise.

    Hank Hinkel

    OLD-TIMER HOMEPAGE    [removed]~hinkel

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:29:24 -0400
    From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cape Cod Mystery Theter

    I believe the series dates from the mid 80's.

    see [removed]

    or join the radiodrama mailing list to discuss with others.

      Henry Howard - moderator of  radiodrama@[removed]
    770 923 7955                   [removed]
                             Movies in your Mind

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    Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:41:55 -0400
    From: "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Scariest Broadcast

    The most frightening broadcast I know of is FDR's "day that will live in
    infamy" speech, announcing that as of that moment we were at war. Who among
    us, our friends, relatives and loved ones, would have to go away and never
    come back? Would you ever see Dad again? Would the war stay overseas, or
    would enemy soldiers with actual guns and bayonets be stalking through our
    own neighborhoods, pulling us out of our cellars and doing god knows what?
    That was real fear, of a kind that did not go away when you turned off the
    radio. All the other stuff is just made up.

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