Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #200
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Date: 6/12/2004 10:18 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 200
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Clive and Clyde                       [ "Arthur Emerson" <milart@[removed] ]
  Jack Benny regular in movie           [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
  6-12 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Have Gun, Will Travel                 [ "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@peop ]
  the love for 3 oranges                [ "[removed] MANN" <voxpop@[removed]; ]
  William Tell Overture                 [ RickEditor@[removed] ]
  The Lone Ranger's "...Music that you  [ "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@6 ]
  WKID                                  [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  More on Prokofiev                     [ "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed]; ]
  New Time Radio                        [ <smzmurphy@[removed]; ]
  "Hi-Yo, Schmidler!"                   [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Speak the [removed] trippingly!       [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  FDR Funeral Radio Broadcasts          [ <cp_news@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:28:40 -0400
From: "Arthur Emerson" <milart@[removed];
To: "Time Radio Old" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Clive and Clyde

Phil Watson's post on #193 reminds me of the lovely snippet of drollery
anent a supposed radio interview with animal trainer, Clyde Beatty - that
went like this:

"Tell me, Mr. Beatty, have you ever been clawed/Clause"?

"No, I've always been Clyde"!

Arthur Emerson

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:49:26 -0400
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny regular in movie

    I don't recall if this minor piece of info has been posted on the
Digest:

    Don Wilson, of the Jack Benny radio show, had a small role as a
remote-radio interviewer in the 1943 MGM musical "DuBarry Was A Lady"
(starring Lucille Ball -- a person discussed on the Digest a while ago.)
There were several other OTR performers in the film -- and references to
OTR.

   (Humble opinion:  The movie is also worth seeing for the slim, terrific,
deadpan singer Virginia O'Brien, for the swinging Tommy Dorsey ork number
"Well, Git It!", and for the subtle-ish references to the WW2 home front.)

   -- Phil C.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:01:43 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  6-12  births/deaths

June 12th births

06-12-1884 - William Austin - Georgetown, British Guiana - d. 6-15-1975
actor: Professor of the English Department "Jack Oakie's College"
06-12-1890 - Junius Matthews - Chicago, IL - d. 1-18-1978
actor: Grandpa Eph "David Harum"; Ling Wee "Gasoline Alley"
06-12-1893 - Evelyn Varden - Adair Oklahoma Territory - d. 7-11-1958
actress: Dorothy Stewart "This is Nora Drake"; Mother Malone "Young Dr. Malone"
06-12-1909 - Archie Bleyer - Corona, NY - d. 3-20-1989
conductor: "Arthur Godfrey Time"; "Casey, Crime Photographer"
06-12-1914 - William Lundigan - Syracuse, NY - d. 12-20-1975
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; announcer in early radio
06-12-1919 - Uta Hagen - Gottingen, Germany (Raised: Madison, WI) - d.
1-14-2004
actress: "Big Show"
06-12-1920 - Peter Jones - Wem, Shropshire, England - d. 4-10-2000
actor: narrator "Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy"; "In All Directions"
06-12-1928 - Vic Damone - Brooklyn, NY
singer: "Saturday Night Serenade"; "Stars in Khaki 'n' Blue"

June 12th deaths

01-01-1917 - Ted Cott - Poughkeepsie, NY - d. 6-12-1973
announcer, emcee: "So You Think You Know Music?"; "Music You Want"
01-27-1888 - Harry Frankel - d. 6-12-1948
singer: (Singin' Sam the Barbosol Man) "Reminiscin' with Singin' Sam"
02-29-1904 - Jimmy Dorsey - Shenandoah, - d. 6-12-1957
bandleader: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Your Happy Birthday"
03-08-1908 - Franklyn MacCormack - Waterloo, IA - d. 6-12-1971
announcer: "Caroline's Golden Store"; "Jack Armstrong"
04-05-1916 - Gregory Peck - Lo Jolla, CA - d. 6-12-2003
actor: "Doctor Fights"; "Sealtest Variety Hour"
07-07-1898 - Arlene Harris - Toronto, Canada - d. 6-12-1976
actress: Mrs. Higgins "Baby Snooks"; Human Chatterbox "Al Pearce and His Gang"
08-10-1900 - Norma Shearer - Montreal, Canada - d. 6-12-1983
actress: "Everyman's Theatre"; "Louella Parsons"
10-20-1884 - Thomas Chalmers - NYC - d. 6-12-1966
actor: Sam Young "Pepper Young's Family"
--
Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:02:04 -0400
From: "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Have Gun, Will Travel

Sams has the first season on dvd of the TV series which preceeded the radio
show. The quality is great and I hope they do all of them.  It is direct
>from CBS and maybe if there is enough interest they might do Our Miss
Brooks. I hope

A few years ago My Dad purchased some of the episodes of HGWT on VHS that
were available through Columbia House Subscription Club. Anyways it was
intersting to see the different interpretations of shows that were repeated
on the Radio show with our Paladin (John Dehner) like "Winchester
Quarantine",  "Three Bells to Perdido", and "The Outlaw" among the others.
Does anyone just how many shows overlap in both series?

Mike Kerezman
Macomb, Ok

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:45:15 -0400
From: "[removed] MANN" <voxpop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  the love for 3 oranges

BOY!  i guess i really started something when i asked which show used
THE LOVE OF 3 ORANGES for a [removed] i've had MY 15 minutes of
[removed] g'[removed]
chet norris

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:45:31 -0400
From: RickEditor@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  William Tell Overture

Someone once said that the  definition of an intellectual is a guy who
listens to the "William Tell  Overture" and doesn't think of the Lone Ranger.

rick  selvin
Philadelphia

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:46:11 -0400
From: "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Lone Ranger's "...Music that you're
 using"

I trust everyone got the humor in Derek Tague's witty subject line in
his post.  I chuckled once again when he reminded me of it.

Several years ago, some pizza roll manufacturer put the grabbus on the
"William Tell" overture to hawk his product.  However, some time
previous to that, Lark cigarettes had also used the same theme (the 4th
section of the overture, as used for The Lone Ranger).  As the pizza
roll commercial unfolded, a man came in and (taking a cigarette from a
pack which was obviously a Lark pack) said, "I'd like to talk to you
about that music you're using."  Quick cut to Clayton Moore dressed as
the Ranger, who said, "And I'd like to talk to YOU about the same
thing."  I think that Jay Silverheels (dressed as Tonto) interjected,
"Have a pizza roll, Kemo Sabe."  I thought it was humorous (though it
may suffer from my telling), but I suppose there might have been those
who didn't get it.  More to be pitied than censured.

Very droll, Derek!

Hi-Yo Silver,
Fred Hillman

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:23:41 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WKID

While vacationing at Myrtle Beach recently, I was drawn--as I invariably
am--to a very large book store to pour through its wares.  To my amazement I
ran across (and purchased) a hardback 1988 release from Albert Whitman & Co.
titled "WKID:  Easy Radio Plays."  I wonder if anyone on this list is
familiar with this little volume and if perhaps there were other texts to
follow.

It's a children's book, designed for school, church, club, community or
other groups and is packed with interesting behind-the-scenes information on
preparing a radio play.  All sorts of instructions are given in
understandable language (as you might imagine).  Four plays, including a
mystery, a serial, a comedy and an adaptation, are included.  It made me
wish I was a child again.

The authors are Carol Adorjan and Yuri Rasovsky, both with connections to
National Radio Theatre and the British Broadcasting Corporation.
Introducing Adorjan, a blurb states:  "Carol feels that television has
deprived today's children of the creative challenge radio provides.  She has
never given up hope that one day radio will make a full-scale comeback.
Toward that end, she has taught radio-writing workshops as artist in the
schools for both the Illinois and Iowa Arts Councils and at the invitation
of independent sponsors."

I reflected on that.  Many of us would agree we've not given up hope for a
comeback.  Realistically speaking, however, some 16 years after the book's
release and more than four decades since the bulk of network radio faded,
I'm not betting the rent.

Theirs is a clever and imaginative volume and could be used to teach today's
youngsters something about an important era they missed.

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:25:38 -0400
From: "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  More on Prokofiev

Dear friends:

One of my favorite's posters, Michael Biel got it right about Prokofiev's
music. But he overlooked perhaps Sergei's best Patriotic composition, of all.
It is his Cantata "Alexander Nevsky" for Soprano, Chorus and Orchestra. The
music demonstrates Russian bravery unlike anything else he wrote. And even
though they are different styles of music Alexander Nevsky is the equal of
Dmitri Shostakovich's Leningrad Symphony. The Premier of both works were
heard on Radio. Shostakovich's symphony was smuggled out of Russian during
the siege of Leningrad and was performed by Toscanini and the NBC Symphony in
New York City for the first time. It might interesting to note that in the
audience that day for the first hearing of the Shostakovich work was Leonard
Bernstein. He was soon to make his gigantic mark. Also in the audience that
day was Lukas Foss and Kenneth Schermerhorn, both great composesrs and,
conductors who would later make their mark with the Milwaukee Symphony
Orchestra and many other Orchestras. One final note; Prokofiev would also
write the film score for Serge Eisenstein's brilliant movie, Alexander
Nevsky. It was considered for many years the greatest marriage of film and
music ever. In Fact Eisenstein was so impressed with Prokofiev's score that
he shot several of the scenes of the movie to fit the score. Seldom is that
kind of respect shown to the composer.
Best regards,
Mike Ray

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:46:57 -0400
From: <smzmurphy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  New Time Radio

I've heard a lot of radio programs over my nearly 41 years -- both old time
and new time. I've heard some really *bad* examples of each (anyone for MR.
CHAMELEON, which sometimes was so bad, it was enjoyable for its "badness?").
I think NTR has been getting a bad rap lately. There are some wonderful new
productions out there that are worth seeking out. James W. Nichol has done at
least two fine series for the CBC -- MIDNIGHT CAB and PEGGY DELANEY. I would
highly recommend either to anyone. Please note, however, that while neither
is a serial, they are best listened to in broadcast order.

Mike

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:53:36 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Hi-Yo, Schmidler!"

From: "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@[removed];

  there is a very fine book entitled "The Mystery of the
  Masked Man's Music:  A Search for the Music Used on 'The Lone Ranger'
  Radio Program, 1933-1954," written by Reginald M. Jones, Jr

Dear Folks-
And there is, as they say on PBS, "an excellent companion to this book", in
the form of Lister Max Schmid's long interview with Jones, from his stalwart
GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO show. Mayhaps it's still available from that
many-tentacled conglomerate "Schmidco"?
Best,
-Craig "OTR, NTR - if it's good, it's Good" Wichman

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:48:31 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Speak the [removed] trippingly!

Dear Friends, Lovers, and (Audio-) Countrymen (and women)-

Thanks - the "Audio Acting 101" thread, along with the
thoughtful off-list missives I've gotten, has been fascinating.
As brevity is the soul of wit, just a few closing [removed]

By speaking of "fuller" audio acting, I emphatically
did not mean "broader" or "stagier." But if the character
is being torn from the love of his life, or threatened by a
psychotic murderer, the tears in his eyes or the sweat on
his brow cannot be seen by the radio audience - so they
MUST be in the vocal performance. This is as true for IMAG-
INATION THEATER, as it was for SUSPENSE.

OVERACTING was ever wrong, in every medium. Some hack playwrite
nailed it, long ago: "If you mouth it, as many of our players do,
I had as leif the town crier spoke my lines!" But the playing
I'm speaking of here is analogous to the work of the "high-grade"
silent actors - the ones who understood how to give a rounded
characterization with "one hand tied behind their back",
performance-wise. Chaney, Garbo, Chaplin, Keaton, and Gish.
You can only see them; they have no voice; but a fully-faceted
portrayal is there. Rathbone's "Holmes" achieves this obversely;
so does Merrison's.

As to the "them (then) vs. us (now)" canard: sure, I've found
that (baring the occasional curse of illness, or ravages of time)
most folks who had it in the old days, still have it. A caveat,
though: there are younger folks working today who - though we
don't have the blessing of doing it daily - have been plying this
trade for decades. I did my first show in 1984; and have done
several series since, most recently TWILIGHT ZONE. The point being
not to list my credits, but to prove, YET AGAIN, that the shows
ARE OUT THERE! But you folks at the OTHER side of the speaker
have to seek out and support the medium - with attendance at events,
calls, emails, letters, and purchases. AND UNDERSTAND: THIS APPLIES
BOTH TO NEW SHOWS - WHICH MAY NOT BE YOUR CUP OF TEA - AS WELL AS
TO QUALITY RECREATIONS OF BELOVED OLDIES!

There's no Lost Mystic Art required in good radio acting; just
respect and hard work. As with many things in life, the truth
lies in a balance: as The Hack said, "I would have such a fellow
whipped for overdoing ... But be not too tame, neither ..."

Thanks to Derek, Hal, and Jim, who implied that
I hit that narrow target occasionally. Ditto, thanks
to folks like Jay Hickerson, Bill Nadel, and Arthur Anderson -
who give Young Whipper-Snappers a chance to learn from Old
Pros - ensuring that the torch of the Golden Age will be
passed on from its Greatest Generation.

We all agree on one thing - we don't want Radio Drama to die.

Yes?

Best,
-Craig Wichman
Quicksilver Radio Theater

[ADMINISTRIVIA: I think we've covered this topic   --cfs3]

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:52:17 -0400
From: <cp_news@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  FDR Funeral Radio Broadcasts

Watching the Reagan funeral proceedings made me curious yesterday about the
funerals of other [removed] Presidents.

I know Nixon's Funeral at the Yorba Linda Presidential Library was televised,
as were the funeral proceedings of LBJ, Harry S Truman and Dwight Eisenhower.

Does anybody out there happen to have any recordings of the coverage of FDR's
Funeral, or know where such a recording might be obtained from a commercial
vendor (or the National Archives)?

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