Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #413
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 11/16/2003 2:28 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 413
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Honeymoomers                          [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
      Re: Looking for OTR dealer            [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
      They're Gloriously Conected!          [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      An Arkansas lurker speaks             [ "Dixon Chandler II" <dchandler@nett ]
      re: Art Carney radio appearances      [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed] ]
      RE: Maybeland Maps, etc.              [ Don Strong <donsplace@[removed] ]
      Big Bands                             [ "Harry" <hb1379@[removed]; ]
      PETER APPLEYARD                       [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
      writing to the stars                  [ "Mike Mackey" <[removed]@[removed] ]
      Art Carney as FDR                     [ mbiel@[removed] ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
      Re: OLD OTR Performers                [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
      columbia workshop                     [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:55:36 -0500
    From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Honeymoomers

    With the passing of Art Carney there has been a dearth of the
    Honeymooners reruns. On the credits you will note that they were recorded
    by  Dumont Electrocam. That was true. They were actually produced in the
    old Dumont TV studios on East 63rd Street in Manhattan. At that time TV
    video tape recording had not been developed. Kinescope,  a video camera
    trained on a small TV screen was the only way a TV show could be recorded
    and the results left a lot to be desired. Dumont Labs developed the
    Electrocam which produced both  film and a video output.  The director
    could see and call his shots the same as live and then edit the film. I
    may be a bit vague about this procedure but that was the basic idea. When
    I was the audio engineer on "Edge of Night" CBS leased Dumont's enormous
    Studio 63. It was three stories high. "World Turns" also originated from
    another equally large studio in the same building.  Both "llive". As my
    audio control room was near the top, I avoided trips to the studio floot.

    BILL MURTOUGH

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:55:47 -0500
    From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Looking for OTR dealer

    May I suggest the First Generation Radio Archives?  There is no doubt as to the
    quality of their
    CDs, and membership in that organization assists them as they restore classic
    shows
    to broadcast quality
    [removed]

    Al Girard

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:56:37 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  They're Gloriously Conected!

    From: "Micheal Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];

>     The kids just want to express their love and thanks to the owners of the
>     voices they hear on a daily basis, to make some kind of a connection ....
>     Does anyone have any advice for making this happen? Do these people mind
>     being bothered?

    Dear Micheal & Brood-
    As to the Old Pros minding, my experiance with them has shown them to be a
    very gracious, appreciative group. For my part, if the kids are at all
    familiar with LET'S PRETEND, or MERCURY THEATER (he was in CAESAR, TREASURE
    ISLAND, & LIFE WITH FATHER), I'd be happy to forward notes to Arthur Anderson
    (I just "John Drew-ed" to his "Joe Jefferson", in a new play reading last
    night.)
    It's not right to volunteer other's services, but I can think of two Listers,
    a Gentleman on the East Coast, & a Lady on the West (convention staples), who
    would be eminently suited to forward such missives, if they care to step
    [removed]
    Best,
    Craig Wichman

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:16:47 -0500
    From: "Dixon Chandler II" <dchandler@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  An Arkansas lurker speaks

>     I am from Kansas and Missouri; the river is pronounced "R Kansas"
>     and the state is pronounced "R Can Saw" -  at least in eastern
>     Kansas and western
>     Missouri.

    I grew up in Arkansas, across the river from Memphis, TN.  The state and the
    river were prounced "R - Can - Saw" to us.

    No offense (now that I'm older and wiser), but we laughed when we heard
    folks pronounce it "R-Kansas."

    Similarly, we called ourselves Arkansans, and not the reprehensible
    "Arkansawyer."

    -dc

    PS:  and yeah, I still have an accent!

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:17:25 -0500
    From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: Art Carney radio appearances

    Max Schmid asked

>     Can anyone let me know of specific circulating shows
>     that Art Carney appears on?

    An excellent resource for actor's appearances on radio show is J. David
    Goldin's web site <[removed]; which has an index to
    the database by either actor's name of show title. Currently Goldin's
    database has 104 listings for Art Carney.

    Gerald Wright
    ZoneZebra Productions
    San Francisco

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:17:50 -0500
    From: Don Strong <donsplace@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE: Maybeland Maps, etc.

    The Cinnamon Bear Resource Storage Site is still up - it is at:

    [removed]~[removed]

    For those of you who either don't know or can't remember, the CBRSS
    makes Maybeland maps and a Cinnamon Bear promo in mp3 format available
    throught the hard work and generosity of Dennis Crow.  Enjoy!

    "Prevent truth decay - study the Bible daily"
          ---- [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:30:55 -0500
    From: "Harry" <hb1379@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Big Bands

    The program "Cool Edit" by Syntrillium Software is great for capturing
    streaming audio.  You can edit your "catch" in the same program.

    Another newsgroup for all OTR programs (If everyone hasn't already
    discovered it) is [removed]   Frequently MP3's
    of band remotes are posted as well as tons of other OTR shows.  Quality
    varies and unfortunately some posters have a habit of chopping off
    beginning and endings of shows - a sin to we purists, but most are good
    and clean and full sets are often posted.  Here again you will want Cool
    Edit to clean them up, adjust volume, etc.

    Harry Button
    hb1379@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:55:30 -0500
    From: PURKASZ@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  PETER APPLEYARD
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            Is this the same Peter Appleyard who plays the vibes with a great
    degree of finesse and joy?
         The Canadian jazz artist who has pulled a disappearing act for the last
    several years?
         Lemme know. If so. Greetings dear man and thanks for the good vibes for
    so many years.
         If there's music you want, write me off line and we'll hook up, besides
    we know some of the same people and it'll be nice to say hello.
                        Michael C. Gwynne

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    Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:41:13 -0500
    From: "Mike Mackey" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  writing to the stars

    I, too, have thought about how we are quickly losing our OTR
    professionals. I hadn't heard about Penny Singleton dying. She'd
    lived a long life, but still I'm saddened by it. We miss Dick Crenna
    and now Mr. Carney. I've recently been listening to "I Love A
    Mystery" and it has caused me to think of one of its stars who also
    has starred in TV, motion pictures and stage: Mr. Tony Randall. Does
    anyone know how one could respectfully contact him?

    Mike Mackey

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    Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 02:18:56 -0500
    From: mbiel@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Art Carney as FDR

    I haven't had a chance to see of anybody else posted about this, but right
    after Carney's death was made public, an entertainment  reporter for WCBS-TV
    New York mentioned that he had interviewed Carney in the past, and that
    Carney had told him that he had subbed for FDR many times on fireside chats
    when FDR was called away suddenly or was otherwise busy.  He said that Carney
    had told him that when he did this, he tried not to do just an imitation of
    FDR's upper crust demeaner.  He said that he tried to make him seem more
    homey.  This seems to me to be quite a cock and bull story.  While it is
    known that Carney did imitate FDR on a dramatized news program (either March
    of Time or a similar program) and that this was stopped when the White House
    asked around 1935 that FDR nbot be imitated for security reasons, it seems
    unlikey that he could have been asked to fill in for a full speech.  All of
    the Fireside Chats exist.  Has anyone spotted one that might be an imitator?
    Anybody know which news programs Carney appeared in?  I am wondering if
    Carney might be the one who imitates FDR nominating Al Smith at the 28
    Democrat convention on Murrow's I Can Hear it Now, Vol III 1919-1932,
    Columbia ML 4340.  Carney's name does not appear on the credits for the
    album, so it might not be him.  I have this newscast on videotape and will
    ask the reporter to see if he can go back to the specific Carney interview
    where this is mentioned.  I bet the reporter has misunderstood what Carney
    had told him.  (I wish this subject had come up while Carney was still alive
    so that he could be asked for the specifics.)

    We've discussed in the past that there is a similar contention that some of
    Churchill's speeches were delivered by an actor, but I think I have nailed
    this down to one specific speech, with all the others in question being the
    recordings Churchill made in the late 40s and early 50s.

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:20:49 -0500
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi friends

    Here is this week's line-up for the week of 11-16-03 on my Olde Tyme Radio
    [removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
    Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
    Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
    streaming RealAudio at [removed]

    Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

    We look forward to seeing you there!

    	Jerry

    Here's this week's lineup:

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

    BLONDIE
    Episode 42    4-15-40    "Jack and the Beanstalk"
    Stars: Penny Singleton and Arthur Lake

    DOWN OUR WAY
    Episode 4    "Someone Breaks Into Patient's House"
    Producer: Walter White, Jr.
    Writer: Shirley Thomas
    Commodore Syndicated Production in 26 chapters

    THEATER GUILD ON THE AIR
    Episode 25   2-24-46   "Dead End"
    Stars: Richard Conte, Alan Baxter and Joan Tetzel
    Adapted from Sidney Kingsley's stage play

    ---------------------------------------------------

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

    VIC AND SADE
    Summer 1946    MBS - "Insulted, Abused and Angry"
    Stars: Art Van Harvey, Bernardine Flynn, Clarence Hartzel and Billy Idelson

    SUSPENSE
    CBS/AFRS    10-18-45   "Summer Storm"
    Stars Henry Fonda

    FIBBER McGEE & MOLLY
    NBC   11-27-53    "McGee Meets a Con-man (Bill Conrad)"
    --------------------------------------------------

    THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John and Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

    STRANGE WILLS
    Syndicated    Episode 27    "The Silver Buckles"

    DICK COLE
    Syndicated    Episode 7   1942    "Laura Gets Jealous"

    BUNCO SQUAD
    Audition    4-20-50    "The Case of the Bookworm"

    THE HUNTERS
    CBS Audition    11-29-48    "You Take Ballistics"

    COCA COLA TOP NOTCHERS
    NBC    3-19-30    "Ty Cobb Interviewed"
    -----------------------------------------------------

    Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
    shows.

                Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
      Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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    Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:21:46 -0500
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: OLD OTR Performers

     Michael Leannah Just posted something about writing to OTR Performers.

>     (SNIP>.....My daughter asked me last night, "Are there any left I could write
>     to?" She was asking specifically about the Jack Benny Show and I had to tell
>     her no. "How about the Cinnamon Bear?" No. "Lone Ranger?" Uh-uh.
>     (SNIP)
>     I thought about Hal Stone, who the kids are familiar with, and Rhoda
>     Williams, who I met at the FOTR convention a couple of years ago. Perhaps
>     they would be receptive to a couple of kids' fan letters.
>     (SNIP)
>     I'm sure they'll respectfully ask for an autograph or the answer to a question
>     or two, with the understanding that nothing is promised or expected.
>     Does anyone have any advice for making this happen?

    Sheese! What am I, difficult to get along with?  :)

>     Do these people mind being bothered?

    Bothered? NO!  Pestered? Yes.

    Michael, in this enlightened (?) High-Tech age, why don't you be a good
    Daddy and let your kids have a crack at your computer once and awhile. It
    would be real simple for them to ask me anything they want here on the
    Digest.

    However, if they insist on making Uncle Sam rich, (and you poor) by sending
    letters through the mail, they can use my Post Office Box address.

    Bygone days Press
    [removed] Box 4418
    Sedona, Az. 86340

    But that's only in case they need a hard copy of something. As for answering
    fan letters, I much prefer dashing off an e-mail response. As for
    autographed pictures, the Autograph is free, the picture costs me about a
    buck to make (what with Glossy ink jet paper, Printer Ink, etc.) It's the
    postage that's a pain. (And going to the post office). I generally ask
    people to send $[removed] in postage stamps (unused, of course) :)... to cover my
    costs if they request a picture.

    Hope this response makes you a hero with your Kids. Say Hi! to them for me.

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    Jughead

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    Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:09:37 -0500
    From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  columbia workshop

    Does anybody know what the largest number of Columbia Workshop shows
    exist in MP3.  Wilbur, mentioned here, does not seem to be in MP3 if I am
    not mistaken.  Thanks in advance.  I still think that Orson Welles is in
    that play about the mine on the first Columbia Workshop.  Kurt

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