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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2001 : Issue 310
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re:Humorous epitaphs [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
White Cliffs of Dover [ "welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
Jack Benny on TV [ Roo61@[removed] (Randy Watts) ]
Re: blackout conditions [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
Re: OTR Movies [ "Greg Przywara" <orsonwelles3@home. ]
Radio and Pearl Harbor [ "Paul M. Thompson" <beachcomber@com ]
Riley Says [ "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed]; ]
Lyrics to "Sunday" [ "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed]; ]
radio people who work on TV Gun Smok [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
from radio to the screen [ "Christian Blees" <christian-blees@ ]
OTR Movies [ Michael Henry <mlhenry@[removed]; ]
Re: Top 5 and CBS Radio Workshop [ passage@[removed] ]
OTR Memorabilia [ "Tom and Katja" <kattom@[removed] ]
Pearl Harbor Damage [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Hankies? [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
Sound Effects [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
WCBS nee WABC [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
Call letters KCAL [ Alfred Copeland <copeland@[removed] ]
RE: OTR MEMORABILIA [ nicoll <nicoll@[removed]; ]
OTR 'Epitaphs' [ Mike Sheets <msheets@[removed]; ]
Re: Accuracy in news [ "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail ]
Vera Lynn song sources [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
Old time radio has lost Ed Cole [ BRC Productions <platecap@brcradio. ]
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:08:59 -0400
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Humorous epitaphs
Another one just came to mind:
"The grass is always greener on the other fellow."
I wonder where it came from. Possibly Digger O'Dell,
the friendly undertaker from "The Life of Riley"?
It's not an epitaph, as such, but there's an OTR program
name which could fit the bill:
"Life Can Be Beautiful"
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:38:15 -0400
From: "welsa" <welsa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: White Cliffs of Dover
I was recently at a lecture about music during WWII. The lecturer had
mentioned something about "The White Cliffs of Dover." I don't recall what
he said. But a member of the audience brought up an interesting point. He
is an ornithologist (birder.) He said that bluebirds are not endemic to the
UK. So he was wondering if maybe the song was American.
I'm have not researched his point about bluebirds, so don't shoot the
messenger here.
Ted
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:38:21 -0400
From: Roo61@[removed] (Randy Watts)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny on TV
I was wondering why you never see
reruns of his program? If anyone has any
information I`d be very interested in
hearing it. -Dan
Universal still offers a package of 104 filmed episodes of Benny's
television series, but it's not widely seen these days. A big part of
the reason is, classic or not, a series like Benny's tends not to
attract the younger-skewing viewers that are of primary importance to
advertisers. Another reason is that many younger people involved in
the programming end of television are not even really aware of "The Jack
Benny Program." They may know of Benny, and they may know that he had a
series at one time, but not having grown watching it, they're not aware
of it in the same way that they're aware of the shows they DID grow up
with. Also, even those cable outlets that specialize in older shows
tend to be more wary of anything that's in black-and-white.
The CBN cable network aired it late nights during the 1980s and early
'90s, along with George and Gracie, "I Married Joan," "My Little
Margie," and a few other oldies, and I believe it was on Comedy Central
in that channel's early days. A Canadian friend told me not too long
ago that it was airing up there, but as to where it currently runs in
the United States, I cannot say. Maybe someone knows of a local station
somewhere or a cable outlet that offers the show.
--Randy.
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:39:24 -0400
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: blackout conditions
Steve Kallis wrote, a propos WW2 blackout conditions:
a practice that happened during World War II, the
blackout. In those simpler days, lights were either extinguished
(usually) or blocked from spilling out through windows via "blackout
curtains" to prevent enemy bombers from having a landmark for bombing
runs at night.
My folks told me that during one blackout the local Air Raid Warden came
to the door and told them to turn off the light that was shining so
brightly in the living room.
It was the dial light from our RCA Victor radio.
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 02:18:51 -0400
From: "Greg Przywara" <orsonwelles3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: OTR Movies
Most OTR movies are quite rare and don't even show up on cable in the wee
hours of the morning that often. You have to get them from a mail order firm
like Finders Keepers.
The ones I have and recommend are as follows:
The Life of Riley(1949) a classic! Great acting and script do justice to an
excellent radio sitcom!
Duffy's Tavern(1945) has that scratchy public domain look to it but still
entertaining to fans of the series.
Look who's Laughing(1941) Charlie McCarthy, Fibber McGee and Molly.
Light-hearted fare, though it plays like a 75-minute version of a 30-minute
radio show at times.
March of Time "Is Everybody Listening?"(1947) I LOVE this documentary that
was done right before TV became widespread as it is filled with so many
wonderful clips of live shows being broadcast, including a closet-opening
scene from Fibber McGee and Molly and a soap opera clip.
"The Night America Panicked"(1975) with Vic Morrow. My current copy has
atrocious tracking and if SciFi Channel runs it this Halloween I will make a
new copy. Otherwise this is a fantastic study in mass hysteria with solid
character development and great acting.
Suspense on TV (1952-54) The 4 kinescopes I have do not win any prizes for
picture quality but the clever Autolite commercials are a treat though I
don't remember hearing the radio versions of any of the stories presented.
The one with Walter Matthau cracks me up even though it's not supposed to be
a comedy.
Any other videos on the market that feature shows carried over from radio
days are truly a mixed bag. Some like Radio Spirits TV from Radio set which
I sampled from a public library collection some months back contain certain
shows that were never meant for the small screen. Such as Fibber and Molly
sans Jim and Marian Jordan. Most of the Jack Benny videos(especially on the
MCA label) cut out the clever commercials. So when trying to satisfy an urge
to see your favorite OTR characters on the tube, remember caveat emptor.
Greg Przywara
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:47:07 -0400
From: "Paul M. Thompson" <beachcomber@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Radio and Pearl Harbor
In light of the recent postings regarding news coverage of September
the 11th and that of Pearl Harbor, the following as reported by Time
Magazine on December 15, 1941provides an interesting perspective
of the moment.
"At 2:25 PM the news tickers clanged, hammered out seven words:
' White House says Japs attack Pearl Harbor.' Withing a few moments
the networks crackled with the news. By 3 PM all the networks were in
[removed] and in a turmoil."
"The news was beyond the grasp of some listeners. WOR, butting into
its football broadcast, got furious phone calls from people too excited
about the game to become excited about anything else. In Denver,
when a religious hour was canceled, one man called station KFEL to
ask if it considered war news more important than the gospel. Nowhere
did the straight radio reports of terrific bombing at Honolulu create
anything resembling the panic created three years ago by Orson Welle's
famed faking of a Martian invasion."
Paul Thompson
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:47:32 -0400
From: "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Riley Says
Regarding the tragic events on 911 (September 11th) -- as Chester A. Riley
would say --
"What a revoltin' development this turned
out to be!"
That was the line that Riley always used at the end of the OTR show, "The
Life of Riley," with Riley played by William Bendix.
Well, "I must be shovelling off," as Digger O'Dell said on that great show.
I wonder if bin Laden and his laddies had listened to some OTR comedies they
would have lightened up a little and not tried to destroy us.
Best,
Jim Stokes
jstokes@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:47:48 -0400
From: "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Lyrics to "Sunday"
Would someone be so kind as to E-mail me the lyrics to the song "Sunday,"
which was the theme song for the Phil Harris & Alice Faye Show? They are
rather clever lyrics, and I just can't recall all of them. :) It's a
great old song! :)
Just for the reference, the words go something like, "I cry all day Monday.
I sigh all day [removed] after pay day, that's my 'hey day.'..."
They don't write 'em like that any more! Except in musicals!
Thanks!
Jim Stokes
jstokes@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:48:07 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: radio people who work on TV Gun Smoke
I am trying to put together my notes for a James Arness interview that we
will do on YUSA. Does any one recall other radio performers that worked on
TV Gun Smoke? I know that Howard Culver, Herb Vigran, and George Walsh was
the announcers. Take care,
Walden Hughes
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:48:32 -0400
From: "Christian Blees" <christian-blees@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: from radio to the screen
Hi,
I'm looking for radio series/episodes that made it to the silver screen
(like the famous "sorry, wrong number") - NOT on TV! Can anyone help
with the titles of episodes/series/movies?
Thank you,
Christian
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:49:00 -0400
From: Michael Henry <mlhenry@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Movies
I recently wrote a two-part article on this very subject
for the June 2001 and August 2001 issues of RADIO RECALL,
the newsletter of the Metropolitan Washington Old Time
Radio Club (edited by Jack French). Instead of looking at
movies that featured specific OTR characters or shows (ie,
Fibber McGee and Molly, the Lone Ranger, etc.), I examined
how radio broadcasting was portrayed. These films are fun
to watch because they often show the "behind-the-scenes" of
radio (actors at microphones, sound effects, live studio
audience, the sponsor, etc.).
Below, I've listed the movies I watched. You can find
information about them and many others at the Internet
Movie Database ([removed]). You can also find
information on almost every OTR-themed movie ever made
between 1920 and 1960 in "The American Film Institute
Catalog of Motion Pictures Produced in the United States:
Feature Films". Each decade is divided into two telephone
book sized volumes that include very detailed entries for
motion pictures. Each decade has a detailed index that has
entries on "radio", radio broadcasting", "radio
announcing", etc. Not every movie described in these
volumes is in general circulation, but you will find some
great information there.
Summary: "The Answer to an OTR Fan's Prayer" by Mike Henry.
In part one of the article, I looked at how the motion
pictures of the 1920's-1950's reflected the historical
evolution of radio and discussed the following movies:
The Beauty Prize (1924)
Weary River (First National, 1929)
A Connecticut Yankee (Will Rogers, 1931)
The Big Broadcast (Paramount, 1932)
The Big Broadcast of 1936 (Paramount, 1935)
The Big Broadcast of 1937 (Paramount, 1936)
The Big Broadcast of 1938 (Paramount, 1938)
Rio Rita (MGM, 1941)
Four Jills in a Jeep (Twentieth Century-Fox, 1944)
The Jackpot (Twentieth Century-Fox, 1950)
Champagne for Caesar (United Artists, 1950)
In Part Two, I discussed how the movies portrayed the two
most common characters in OTR movies: the radio star and
the sponsor. I looked at the following:
Champagne for Caesar (United Artists, 1950)
The Big Broadcast (Paramount, 1932)
Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm (Twentieth Century-Fox, 1938)
In the Navy (Universal, 1941)
Whistling in the Dark (MGM, 1941)
Whistling in Dixie (MGM, 1942)
Whistling in Brooklyn (MGM, 1943)
Who Done It? (Universal, 1942)
The Hucksters (MGM, 1947)
A Letter to Three Wives (Twentieth Century-Fox, 1949)
Naturally, these are just films made DURING the golden age
of radio. There have been many films made within the last
50 years that portray the radio broadcast industry itself
or radio in the context of the Great Depression and World
War II ("Radio Days" and "A Christmas Story" come
immediately to mind). Perhaps another member of the OTR
Digest can suggest some of those titles.
-Mike Henry
Metropolitan Washington Old Time Radio Club
and
Library of American Broadcasting
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:49:13 -0400
From: passage@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Top 5 and CBS Radio Workshop
Hi All,
I've been reading all the "top 5's" but must admit that I couldn't
come up with a list. And I will add that any such list would be
constantly changing as I discover different shows.
One series I didn't see was CBS Radio Workshop. Maybe one
reason why, besides the obvious one that it had a limited run, is
the many topics the series touched. I haven't heard all the shows,
but I'm impressed by the variety. You honestly don't know what
many shows are about from the titles. Even Steve Kelez' Radio
Showcase catalog, that shows what type of show it is, drama,
science fiction, musical, etc. only helps a little. A nice series that
offers some pleasant surprises. Last week, I listened to a solo
performance by William Conrad reading poetry in "1489 Words".
Darn good! Another nice thing about this series is that every show
is available in excellent audio quality.
Frank
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:57:28 -0400
From: "Tom and Katja" <kattom@[removed];
To: "Old Radio Newsletter" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR Memorabilia
Hi:
This may be late, but here's my favorite piece of OTR [removed]
A 1937 RCA Victor floor-model radio.(AM, shortwave, etc). It was purchased
by my grandparents as the first purchase of their married life in '37.
I understand from my mother and aunt that a lot of OTR came through that
speaker in the '40s and '50s.
It still works.
Tom Zotti
Wolfeboro, NH
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:10:24 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Pearl Harbor Damage
Michael Berger, speaking of news coverage on Pearl Harbor, observes,
The full scale of the disaster at PH didn't emerge for nearly a year,
when an official report finally revealed the losses in human life
and materiel.
Well, I know that a lot of service families (wives/widows and children)
were evacuated from Oahu and returned to "the Mainland" in 1942; we were
evacuated in April 1942. And we were one of the last families to be
"sent home." All those who were old enough to appreciate the extent of
the attack (as a 5-year-old, I didn't) knew what went down. I'll check
with my mother this weekend, but I believe all these family members were
fully capable of reporting what happened.
(Of some interest, yesterday one of the broadcasts from Tampa, which has
national coverage over Clear Channel, broadcast the song "Remember Pearl
Harbor" several times and some other World War II songs.)
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:50:08 -0400
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hankies?
Folks;
Received this question; please copy this person directly (and the list, of
course) if you can help!
Charlie
--- begin forwarded text
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:24:15 -0400
From: leann burdick <leeann331@[removed];
I have 3 hankies that came in a box marked Radio Remembrance. the hankies
have Jennie,jerry,mortimore on them. Can you tell me anything about them?
thank you
--- end forwarded text
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:54:30 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sound Effects
The following is in reply to Alan Bell's request for information on "how
sound effects were done in the old days" meaning, I suppose, the heyday of
radio.
For a great read on this, as well as his marvelous anecdotes of a career in
radio and early TV, I recommend Robert L. Mott's "Radio Live! Television
Live! Those Golden Days When Horses Were Coconuts". McFarland & Company,
Inc., Box 611, Jefferson NC 28640, pub. 2000.
This is a worthy successor to his outstanding earlier "Radio Sound Effects:
Who Did It, and How, in the Era of Live Broadcasting" also McFarland, pub.
1993. If Bob is at FOTR he may have copies with him; they may also be
available at the FOTR book table.
On the cover is a marvelous photo of SFX guru Ray Erlenborn with those
coconuts, but sans muttonchops, c. 1950 or earlier. He looks nothing like
he does today, but exactly as he does in a wonderful segment of "You Asked
For It" with Art Baker, I think from 1951.
Had I not been the proud possessor of a personalized copy of Bob Mott's
book, I recently would not have recognized Ray while watching one of those
marvelous Skippy "YAFI" shows, two of which appear in a video available
from Moviecraft, Box 438, Orland Park IL 60462. Go to their web page at:
[removed]~Moviecraft/
The dedicated proprietor is a fan. He has a marvelous list of other gems
which I don't think are available elsewhere. Many include OTR stars. I
recommend Moviecraft.
SFX aces Barney Beck, Ray Erlenborn, Bob Mott, and Terry Ross (credits in
alphabetical order) have appeared for years at OTR conventions including
FOTR and SPERDVAC, among others. Sadly, their participation reduces as
time marches on. Those of us who've been fortunate to know and love them
miss them so much. I know Ray checks in here occasionally; don't know
about Bob. Barney is not well, living in a rest home near New York. Terry
left us some years back.
I recommend all of the above for information on SFX, but am sure there is
far more, which others will suggest. Good luck!
Lee Munsick That Godfrey Guy
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:54:34 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WCBS nee WABC
Oops! I apologize for the colloquial use of "swipe" in referring to WABC
becoming WCBS, and WJZ [removed], naming WABC. I didn't mean it
literally or legally, guys! Thanks for the correction.
Lee Munsick
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:06:38 -0400
From: Alfred Copeland <copeland@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Call letters KCAL
Years ago, I worked at a 1000-watt daylight station in Redlands,
California. It's call was KCAL.
Nowadays, I understand that the one-time KCAL has a different call, and I'm
wondering where the KCAL call now resides. It seemd too good a thing to
just disappear.
Could anyone please tell me where to look up this information? Of course,
some one of you may already know it.
Thanks for caring.
Al Copeland
copeland@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:03:51 -0400
From: nicoll <nicoll@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: OTR MEMORABILIA
RE: OTR MEMORABILIA
My "show and tell" is a book.
"Radio Annual - 1938", the first "annual" put out by Radio Daily, the
national daily newspaper serving the radio industry. It's 950 pages just
chock full of everything you'd want to know about 1930's radio.
Its in excellent [removed] purchased it at a antique mall in Garnett, KS
for $7 or $8.
Will Nicoll
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:45:26 -0400
From: Mike Sheets <msheets@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR 'Epitaphs'
Re: OTR epitaphs, the first that come to mind are :
"Hi-O-Ag, Away!"
"Goodnight, Sweetheart"
"What a revoltin' development this is"
"So long, everybody"
Mike
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:33:16 -0400
From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Accuracy in news
Stephen A Kallis, Jr. writes:
In the definitive history of the Pearl Harbor attack, At Dawn We Slept, by
Gordon Prange, he relates, "In Washington, [Secretary of the Navy Frank]
Knox had returned to his office .... [Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral
Harold] Stark and [Rear Admiral Richmond] Turner joined him in a
discussion which lasted about an hour. ... [A] naval commander appeared at
the door with a dispatch. [Knox' confidential assistant, John] Dillon
recalled that the message went 'something like "We are being attacked.
This is no drill."' ... Knox read it incredulously. Obviously confused,
he blurted out, 'My God. This can't be true, this must mean the
Philippines."'
This scenario is also memorably portrayed in TORA! TORA! TORA!, although it
takes place in that film in a hallway, rather than an office doorway; as I
haven't seen PEARL HARBOR as yet, I can't confirm one way or the other about
that production.
Then there's the outright speculation that ethnic Japanese who were landed
immigrants to the [removed] and working in Hawaii served as saboteurs for Japan
in the Pearl Harbor attack; John Daly and Maj. George Fielding Elliott
speculated at length to that end in the CBS radio coverage that I've heard.
It's possible - probable? - that Albert Warner got in on that act, too. But,
as history bears out, there were no documented incidents of this kind of
sabotage happening at Pearl Harbor in all the reports filed with the Defense
Department. Interesting to note is that CBS got stung with this tidbit over
twenty years later, when one of the last episodes of "The Twilight Zone"
featured George Takei as a Japanese gardener who confesses that his father
was one such saboteur. Reaction from Japanese-American civic groups
prevented CBS from syndicating that episode in reruns for over three
decades.
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:20:21 -0400
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Vera Lynn song sources
I'm not familiar with Miss Lynn's work except for "We'll Meet
Again" from Strangelove; as jer51473 says, the version of "When
the Lights Go On Again" that I know is by Vaughn Monroe.
One of the most valuable and interesting reference works I've
come across is called "Popular Music, 1920-1979 - A Revised
Cumulation," edited by Nat Shapiro and Bruce Pollock, published
in 1985 by Gale Research Company of Detroit.
Here's what it says about the three songs we've identified with
Vera Lynn:
(There'll Be Blue Birds over) The White Cliffs of Dover
Words by Nat Burton, music by Walter Kent.
Shapiro, Bernstein & Co., Inc., 1941.
Best-selling record by Kay Kyser and his Orchestra (Columbia)
and Glenn Miller and his Orchestra (Bluebird).
We'll Meet Again (English)
Words and music by Ross Parker and Hughie Charles
Irwin Dash Music Co., Ltd., London, England/World Music,
Inc. 1939.
Introduced by and identified with Vera Lynn. Sung by Miss
Lynn on soundtrack of "Dr. [removed]" (film, 1964).
When the Lights Go On Again (All over the World)
Words and music by Eddie Seiler, Sol Marcus, and Bennie Benjamin.
Porgie Music Corp., 1942.
Best-selling records by Vaughn Monroe and his Orchestra (Victor)
and Lucky Millinder and his Orchestra (Decca). Featured in "When
the Lights Go On Again" (film, 1944).
[The film is a forgotten PRC Pictures release from 1944, but
which sounds interesting in that it's about the return home of
a shell-shocked veteran; only a B (or, if you will, Z) studio
like PRC would dare to tackle such a subject while the war was
still in progress. I wonder if the film still exists; PRC went
out of business in the late 40s and immediately sold its
library to tv. With a few exceptions, any PRC feature you might
run across today is almost certainly in ragged, battered condition.]
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:50:30 -0400
From: BRC Productions <platecap@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Old time radio has lost Ed Cole
The hobby has lost another friend. H. Edgar Cole II of Winter
Haven/Lakeland Florida passed away this past Thursday after being ill for a
few months with kidney and liver problems. I stopped hearing from him at
the end of June.
Ed Cole was a long time friend of old time radio and a close personal friend
of mine. He was a collector, a dealer, and a broadcast engineer. At one
time, he had collected every single CBS Radio Mystery Theater and Sears
Theater show (he later sold his masters).
In the 1980s, he helped me record the Friends of Old-time Radio conventions.
One year we did a "studio quality" version, and went through about a dozen
10" reels of brand new GrandMaster tape. Ed paid for all the tape himself
out of his own pocket and never wanted to be reimbursed.
My old-time radio Guide book volume III is being dedicated to Ed's memory as
well as the victims of the World Trade Center tragedy. I already have
comments on the WTC and will have memories of Ed on [removed].
Bob Burnham, BRC Productions
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