Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #157
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Date: 5/6/2004 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 157
                             A Part of the [removed]!
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      THE SHADOW's earliest surviving appe  [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
      Fun exhibition in Chicago             [ "Jackie Lannin" <jackquack@comcast. ]
      Re: illicitly-recorded broadcasts     [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
      LIGHTS OUT "The Dark"                 [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Re: syndicated OTR                    [ Ercjncpr@[removed] ]
      An OTR question                       [ "larry" <larrybieza@[removed]; ]
      OTR FRIDAY SHOWS                      [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
      Gasoline Alley                        [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
      5-7 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:44:21 -0400
    From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  THE SHADOW's earliest surviving appearance

    In a message dated 5/5/04 11:17:16 AM, Tom  van der Voort writes:

>     Anthony Tollin's interesting comments on the history of  the 'Shadow'
>     broadcasts has inspired me to note a recent 'Shadow' find. Dave Goldin
>     recently acquired an October 20, 1933, recording of Fred Allen's
>     'Salad Bowl Review' featuring an appearance by 'The Shadow'. Obviously
>     this was at a time when 'The Shadow' functioned as narrator, not crime
>     solver. Could this be the mythic figure's earliest surviving broadcast
>     appearance?

    ***Afraid not.  The Shadow also made a short appearance four months earlier
    on the October 2, 1933 episode of THE JACK BENNY PROGRAM ("Who Killed Mr. X?")
    ... which appears to be the character's earliest surviving broadcast
    appearance.  That particular Benny show does survive.  Unfortunately, The Shadow is
    impersonated by neither Frank Readick nor Carl Kroenke (who was a semi-regular
    supporting player on the Benny shows back in the 1930s) on THE JACK BENNY
    PROGRAM.  The question is: Does the Allen show feature Frank Readick?  Only The
    Shadow knows ... but I hope to find out soon --Anthony Tollin***

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    Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:45:01 -0400
    From: "Jackie Lannin" <jackquack@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fun exhibition in Chicago
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    Hi Gang,
       Got back from Chicago intact. If you are in the area, check out this fun
    installation at the Chicago Cultural Center- which is worth a visit anyway.
       "The Rise and Fall of the National Barn Dance: An Installation by John
    Langford and Rob Lentz-March 27th -May 30th"
    Who would have thought that, long before Nashville, Chicago was the center for
    country western music and the progenitor of the National Barn Dance
    phenomenon, broadcast from 1924-1960 on WLS radio? Chicago artists Jon
    Langford and Rob Lentz have uncovered a hidden side of Chicago's past, and in
    act of unbridled devotion they have thoroughly researched this history and
    celebrated it with this multi-media installation.

    Museum of Broadcast has relocated and will be open in 2005- I hope to visit
    this when it reopens.
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    Hope you all are well. Nice to be back with the [removed]
    Jackie
    Sunny St. Paul

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    Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:50:11 -0400
    From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:  illicitly-recorded broadcasts

    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];

>     . . . wouldn't someone at the network have been able to tell that
>     these were recordings? . . .Maybe the background noise inherent
>     in short-wave broadcasts swamped out the background noise
>     inherent in disk recordings, so nobody could tell. . . .
>     But I also read, probably in an article based on rumor-fed research
>     and urban legends, that Allied soldiers during WWII thought that
>     German tape-recorded broadcasts were live, because the
>     conventional disk recordings of the day couldn't sound that good.

    Mark Kinsler is right to be skeptical about the fairy tale that has been
    told that tape recorded programs were used by the Germans during WW II in
    order to fool the allies into thinking that these broadcasts were live.
    Conventional disc recording of that era COULD sound "that good."  Lacquer
    recordings were VERY low in noise for their initial playbacks, potentially
    lower than tape hiss on the early Magnetophon recorders.  And there were
    other recording technologies being used in the late 30s, especially in
    Europe, such as the Selinaphone optical film recorder, and the Millertape
    which was recorded mechanically put replayed optically.   As for NBC being
    fooled by the recordings aired from Europe later in May 1937, they didn't
    know about the Lowell Thomas interviews until it was disclosed in the
    press.  As for the "Empire's Homage" program, my only guess is that they
    weren't paying attention when the British announcer played the excerpts of
    the earlier ceremony during his recap of the day's events.  Maybe they
    thought it was a live recreation, al la The March of Time.  The real irony
    is that CBS HAD been suspicious that the newly crowned King's address would
    be pre-recorded because of his speech impediment.  Believe it or not, CBS
    dispatched Robert Trout to London to sit in a quiet studio and listen
    carefully to the speech in order to cut it off their air if he heard
    evidence of needle ticks and pops.  The speech was live, so he was off the
    hook, but I asked him many years later if he would have cut off the King if
    it had been recorded.  He told me that he wouldn't have had the nerve to do
    it.  He did not remember if he was on duty when the recordings of excerpts
    of the ceremony were played.  The BBC broadcast was aired complete on both
    NBC and CBS.

    What makes this story even more interesting is that by not announcing the
    use of recordings, the networks were violating FCC rules requiring the
    announcement.

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 00:26:49 -0400
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  LIGHTS OUT   "The Dark"

    In re: to Kermyt Anderson's comment about the original LIGHTS OUT production
    of "The Dark" does not exist from the 1930's --- Yes
    it does!
    Tom Heathwood - Heritage Radio Theatre / Heritage Radio Classics

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    Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 00:27:03 -0400
    From: Ercjncpr@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: syndicated OTR

    Well, I do remember the first re-runs of The Shadow around 1964 (I was 8
    years old). They aired on KHJ in Los Angeles at 5pm Sundays. Many on this list
    will recognize the significance of that airtime/date and station. Quite a
    coincidence, no?

    Unfortunately I only have vague memories of the last of the real OTR era
    circa 1960-62 but I was a faithful fan a little later on of Breakfast Club,
    Arthur
    Godfrey Time, Art Linkletter's House Party as well as Fulton Lewis Jr. and
    Lowell Thomas. At least I got to hear those and I'm thankful for it

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 01:26:48 -0400
    From: "larry" <larrybieza@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  An OTR question
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    The current Union for radio workers is AFTRA, but what was the union Radio
    performers were menbers of back in the 1930-40's?  Or wasn't there a union?

    Thanks.  Larry

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    Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:02:35 -0400
    From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR FRIDAY SHOWS
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    I am trying to find out how many OTR Shows sustain Friday's on the air or
    just aired on Friday's?  I know back then there were Friday shows, because
    most
    people were at home a lot back then, if you can help I sure would appreciated
    it.  So far surfing the web I came across:  Jimmy Durante Show, My favorite
    Husband, ABC Mystery Time, Nightbeat, and Alan Young Show.  If I am not fully
    correct on these shows let me know.  I am pretty sure more radio programs
    came on
    the air on Friday's including summer replacement shows, I am a little new at
    finding information like this and need a little assistance.
                                                                          Trina,

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    Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:03:30 -0400
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gasoline Alley

    Well, it's Walt's wife Phyllis who "assumed room temperature."

    Really, if the artist is going to be true to the concept that all the
    characters in "Gasoline Alley" age, he's going to HAVE to bump off Uncle
    Walt. and soon too--Walt must be 110!!

    (I did read an article once that artist Scancarelli said he'd never kill off
    Uncle Walt. Poetic License?!)

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    Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:48:24 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-7 births/deaths

    May 7th births

    05-07-1884 - Gloria Gordon - d. 11-21-1962
    actress: (Mother of Gale Gordon) Mrs. O'Reilly "My Friend Irma"
    05-07-1885 - George "Gabby" Hayes - Wellsville, NY - d. 2-9-1969
    actor: "Andrews Sisters' Eight-to-the-Bar Ranch"; "Roy Rogers Show"
    05-07-1892 - Archibald MacLeish - Glencoe, IL - d. 4-20-1982
    writer: "Columbia Workshop"
    05-07-1900 - Ralph Truman - London, England - d. 10-15-1977
    actor: John H Watson "BBC Home Theatre"
    05-07-1901 - Gary Cooper - Helena, MT - d. 5-13-1961
    actor: "Family Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; 'Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-07-1908 - Edmund MacDonald - MA - d. 9-2-1951
    actor: Tommy Hughes "Big Town"; Inspector Burke "Murder Will Out"   s
    05-07-1915 - Win Elliot - Chelsea, MA - d. 9-17-1998
    sportscaster, emcee: "Fish Pond"; "County Fair"; "Quick as a Flash"
    05-07-1919 - Eva Peron - Los Toldos, Argentina - d. 7-26-1952
    actress, hostess: "Radio Argentina"; "Radio Belgrano"
    05-07-1923 - Anne Baxter - MI City, IN - d. 12-12-1985
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"

    May 7th deaths

    03-20-1913 - Judith Evelyn - Seneca, SD - d. 5-7-1967
    actress: Grace Marshall "Helpmate"; Kay Miniver "Mrs. Miniver"
    03-29-1891 - Warner Baxter - Columbus, OH - d. 5-7-1951
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    07-13-1934 - Dennis Crosby - CA - d. 5-7-1991
    actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
    12-09-1909 - Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. - NYC - d. 5-7-2000
    actor: "Silent Men"; "This Is War"; "We Care"
    12-23-1907 - Don McNeill - Galena, IL (Raised: Sheboygan, WI) - d. 5-7-1996
    host: "Breakfast Club"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
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