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	    [removed]   Volume 95 : Issue 373


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 SPERDVAC overall
	 Canadian charges from clubs
	 Re: Billy Idelson's whereabouts
	 Re:SATELLITE DISHES
	 Re:DIVING FROGMAN
	 John Campbell
	 a gift for the season
	
	 Exploring Tomorrow / X-1
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:05:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: SPERDVAC overall
Message-ID: <[removed]@acme>

Hi [removed]

   Once I sat down and read my posting a couple of digests ago, perhaps I
came down a bit too hard on SPERDVAC.  I was complaining about them not
beefing up their lending libraries fast enough, and about them not wanting
volunteers out of southern California. I am currently a member of
SPERDVAC, and plan on continuing.  To me, they have the largest lending
library available at the most resonable cost amoung the top three otr
clubs, I don't think anyone can agrue against this point.  The volunteers
I have dealt with have all been helpful and speedy for the most part.
Would I recommend membership in [removed] without question, yes!

   Regarding Richard Novak's comments about SPERDVAC having tape
librarians out of the southern California [removed] I was told by one of the
board of directors that these librarians were long standing members and
their locations were close enough to southern California that if needed,
some SPERDVAC volunteer could drive to them to bring back the tapes.  And
I was told there would *never* be a tape librarian further than a couple
states away from California.  Richard, you said things were changing at
[removed] well, I hope for the sake of the club they really are.  A tape
librarian east of the Rockies?  I'll beleieve it when I see it.

   Okay, now what can we do to get SPERDVAC to spend some money to beef up
their libraries?

   And again for you new people wondering which of the otr clubs to
[removed] ask around, and you'll see most people prefer SPERDVAC over all
the others.  For cassettes, the cost breaks down to 50 cents per hour.  It
costs $[removed] for 15 hours of shows, not the majour investment of $45 that
some clubs charge. And you'll find the tape librarians can't be beat either!

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|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 23:05:42 -0500
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Canadian charges from clubs
Message-ID: <951108230433_17040872@[removed]>

I understand to a certain extent the chagrin of some Canadian OTR fans about
membership and postage costs from some clubs.  What I DON'T understand is the
on-going furore.  If the complainants will just check out what it would cost
them to get the many thousands of shows available without the club bargain
prices I think they'll find it's one of the best pricing set-ups you could
possibly get.  As members, you simply rent the shows for a low fee, keep them
for a month if desired and, as members, duplicate them for your own
collection.  Can't beat it!  Some of the lesser clubs have smaller libraries
and many of them are not always of the best quality.  So, pick and choose and
if the costs being debated are too rich for your blood, then don't join.
 But, please, can't we move on now to something of true overall OTR interest?
 I realize it all is apparently a matter of principle and I feel strongly
about principle myself, but not enough to overdo a harangue. 

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 23:33:27 -0500
From: JanBach@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Billy Idelson's whereabouts
Message-ID: <951108233326_17071120@[removed]>

Hello again --
Someone asked the whereabouts of Billy Idelson on one of the many OTR digests
coming down the pike recently; I lose track of whether it was today,
yesterday, or last week -- but, anyhoo, Bill Idelson is alive and well and
still funny, and was in Chicago this last July at the Swiss Hotel for a
celebration of Chuck Schaden's twenty-five years of OTR broadcasts to the
Chicago market (Chuck's silver anniversary, radio's diamond!) Chuck
interviewed Bill about his V and S days, his move to Hollywood from Chicago
to become a comedy writer and director, and Bill even read a portion of a Vic
and Sade "fill-in" script in his possession that Rhymer wrote on the spur of
the moment to fill up a short show, and Shirley Bell (radio's original Orphan
Annie) read the part of Sade -- and well, too. Where would Bill Idelson be
best remembered by the TV audience of the last fifteen to twenty years? As
the voice of the public address system which began every M*A*S*H episode -- a
role he fell into by chance because his production company was next door to
the M*A*S*H set!
Jan Bach

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 23:34:41 -0500
From: celtic@[removed] (Stuart Joseph)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:SATELLITE DISHES
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>
>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:04:17 -0500 (EST)
>From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
  Or, if you've been
>thinking about getting a satellite dish, wait no more!  We have some
>listeners who own more than one dish so that they can leave one of them
>tuned to YUSA all the time!
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Your own C-Band Satellite dish also means that you can get more stations
than you can shake a stick at, which menas more chances to see movies
featuring OTR stars (as well as early tv too, but that's another [removed])

I think having a dish is wonderful and I will be checking out YUSA.
Stuart

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 23:47:42 -0500
From: celtic@[removed] (Stuart Joseph)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:DIVING FROGMAN
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>
>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:48:25 -0500 (EST)
>From: Mark Kinsler  <kinsler@[removed]>
>To: [removed]@[removed]
>Subject: The diving frogman

>I had a diving submarine that was similar to one poster's toy frogman in
>that it came in a serial box and was supposed to repeatedly dive and then
>surface.  The reason yours didn't work is that you used baking soda in 
>it. 
 You were supposed to use baking powder, which is different.  
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So now I find out, 40 years later! I guess I will have to track one down at
a collectibles show and pay an exhorbitant price for it, just to see how it
worked! :-) I guess that's why that kind of stuff is so [removed] anyone
know where I can get a rubber Froggy the Gremlin?
Stuart
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 I 
>tried both in my submarine--my mother came to my rescue with baking 
>powder.  I don't know why we would have had any: my mother was never 
>known to bake anything.
>                                    Mark Kinsler
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Maybe she kept it around in case company came over and looked through her
kitchen [removed]<g>
Stuart
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 00:56:47 +0001 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: John Campbell
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> Date: 08 Nov 1995 18:03 GMT
> From: Henry Brugsch <henry@[removed]>
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Cc: 
> Subject: V95 #369 Cohen on the phone, exploring tm.
> Message-ID: <11081995180337um@[removed]>
> 
> If I hadn't known who he was I'd have found him down home, folksy.
> regards

Well, I must admit that I already knew him when I first heard those old 
radio shows, and that may have colored the way I heard his narration.

Incidentally, Campbell also co-founded Dianetics/Scientology with L. Ron 
Hubbard.  Eventually, they had a falling-out, and Hubbard continued with 
Scientology, while Campbell dropped out.

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:45:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Staley <rstaley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: a gift for the season
Message-ID: <[removed]@netcom15>

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:44:11 -0800 (PST)
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 22:33:14 -0800
From: Ronhare@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Exploring Tomorrow / X-1
Message-ID: <951108223312_18139714@[removed]>

In #370, Henry Brugsch asked about:

"Look Out! Duck!" from Astounding, September 1957. Most of my information on
radio SF originated with Meade Frierson. He reported that it was one of the
Exploring Tomorrow productions, but I don't have a copy and have not seen it
listed anywhere. This does not mean that it is not available.  I last
communicated with Meade in 1972(!). I saw his name fly by in one of these
digests, so I'm sure he's still around. If you locate this one, let me know.

The theme you recall was an effect from "Exploring The Unknown" (RCA
LPM1025). The soaring orchestral and voice effect served as the rocket
takeoff effect for both the LP and X-1.  Music is by Leith Stevens with
Walter Schumann's chorus. Paul Frees narrated the record.  It's a narrated
story about a round trip to Venus. Pretty good record. The first DimensionX
broadcasts did use a theme different than the one we're familiar with, but I
don't recall it.

It's sometimes difficult to tell whether an X-1 intro has been dubbed onto a
repeat script from DimensionX just to fill out an X-1 collection. The
DimensionX scripts used during the X-1 series were newly performed for X-1,
sometimes with identical casts, and sometimes not.  It is possible that NBC
rebroadcast an occasional DimensionX performance as an X-1, but I doubt it.
 My guess is that DimensionX's and X-1's that appear to be identical probably
have intros and outros spliced on. Anyone know for sure?

To Christopher L. Tumber's comment in #370:

I think Radio Spirits was just taken in by the many bad intros that are  in
wide circulation.  For example, "Competition" in their X Minus One (Volume 1)
compilation is really a DimensionX.  It was never redone for  X-1. Volume 2
does not seem to have an obvious mistake like this. Or, have you uncovered
others with the wrong intros?

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Date: Thu,  9 Nov 1995 03:47:00 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Marty Tabnik)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:  ADMINISTRIVIA: Size limits imposed on submissions
Message-Id: <9511082146569434@[removed]>

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