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                           The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                             Volume 2001 : Issue 389
                        A Part of the [removed]!
                                ISSN: 1533-9289


                                Today's Topics:

 Recordings                            [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
 Re: Paul Frees audio interview from   [ "jacques boudreault" <jackb67@hotma ]
 Radio Spirits/Mediabay article in Pu  [ "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed] ]
 Re:Favorite OTR Actors and Actresses  [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
 Re: Fibber's 1942 Christmas           [ Al Girard <agirard@[removed] ]
 Andy Mansfield                        [ "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed]; ]
 Re: Apex DVD Player                   [ JDavis3153@[removed] ]
 Fibber's 1942 Christmas Show          [ "welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
 Jugheads Voice                        [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
 Re: Calvin and the Colonel            [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
 Snow White                            [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
 RE: Cataloging Your Collection        [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
 re Emerson                            [ nicoll <nicoll@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:14:58 -0500
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Recordings

I thought I might explain about recordings of old radio shows. The major
networks did not play recordings on their lines. There was one exception
that I recall. It was about 1944 or 1945 when CBS originated a record
show originating out of Studio 21 (the Godfrey studio) with Frank Sinatra
doing the honors. Although it was an audience studio, there was no
audience. Artie Irons and I were the two engineers. We were both confused
about the situation but did enjoy sitting around in the control room
shooting the breeze with Frank. The program was very short lived.

The recording of network programs began in the late forties when live
original  broadcasts were recorded on 16" disc at Radio Recorders on
Santa Monica Blvd. in Hollywood, delivered to KNX where they were played
back. For example, the morning Arthur Godfrey network show would air out
of KNX at 2:00 in the afternoon to the Western stations.  One afternoon,
2:00pm, I was working in Master Control. I switched up studio 6,
expecting to hear announcer Alan Botzer proclaim "by transcription".
Instead I heard Steve Allen state "by carrier pigeon". Program director
Maury Webster was not very pleased and made Steve promise that he would
not do it again. Steve had distracted Alan and picked up the engineer's
hand cue. If you had been at SPERDVAC a couple of years ago you might
have heard Alan and I recalling the incident.

Some shows recorded their dress rehearsals so that the director could
listen to them before air time. In New York programs were usually
recorded by independant studios as Columbia Records charges were too
high. The exception was the short wave division programs which were
recorded by Columbia, probably due to a short turn around time element.
In Hollywood Radio Recorders did most of our work .We had six or seven
two way lines between our master control and their facility on Santa
Monica Blvd. near Western. Radio Recorders did all the Hollywood
recording for Capitol Records before they built their own building.

My Phillip Morris Playhouse was recorded independently for the Ad Agency
for their own purpose. Monday morning "quarterbacking".

BILL MURTOUGH

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:15:22 -0500
From: "jacques boudreault" <jackb67@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Paul Frees audio interview from 1976

Interesting CBC interview from 25 years ago.  Little reference is made to
his radio career in this As It Happens archive segment but the interview
with this radio legend is worth a listen.

[removed]

Jacques Boudreault
Ottawa, Canada

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:15:26 -0500
From: "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Spirits/Mediabay article in Publishers

Weekly
Approved: uyDjd7sF

This article was published on December 3rd by Publishers Weekly magazine
involving Mediabay and Radio Spirits:

[removed];articleId=
CA184
931

Regards,
J. Alec West

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:15:37 -0500
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Favorite OTR Actors and Actresses

In response to one members open request for some
of our favorite OTR actors and actresses, here goes:

William Conrad, Jackson Beck, Orson Welles, Peter Lorre,
Jim Jordan, Ed Gardner, Bill Johnstone, Brace Beemer,
John Todd, Bob Hope, Eddie Cantor, Fred Allen, Peter Macdonald,
Humphrey Bogart, Hal Stone, J. Scott Smart, Sydney Smith,
Bennett Kilpack, Chester Morris, Richard Denning, Dana Andrews,
Jack Webb, Gerald Mohr, Dick Powell, Sydney Greenstreet, Lon
Clark, Howard Duff, John Gielgud, Nigel Bruce, Bob Bailey, John
Dehner, Reed Hadley, Jeff Chandler, Jimmy Stewart, William Boyd,
Joel McCrea, Richard Crenna, Basil Rathbone, Robert Young, Gale
Gordon, Joseph Kearns, Howard Culver, William Bendix, Lawson Zerbe,
Carlton Hobbs, Alan Reed, Hans Conreid, Willard Waterman,
J Carrol Naish, Richard Kollmar, Bill Forman, Stacy Harris, Alan Ladd,
Les Damon, Larry Thor, Frank Sinatra, Staats Cottsworth, Herbert
Marshall, Joseph Cotten, William Powell, Maurice Tarplin, Kenny
Delmar, John Brown, Mel Blanc, Cary Grant and Frank Readick.

Favorite Actresses: Mercedes Mercambridge, Agnes Moorehead, Marian
Jordan, Ann Blythe, Lauren Bacall, Margot Stevenson, Judy Garland,
Myrna Loy, Eve Arden, Lucille Ball, Loretta Young, Penny Singleton,
Gracie Allen, Marie Wilson, Gloria DeHaven, Joan Bennett, Mary Astor,
Bea Benadaret, Harriet Hilliard (Nelson), Maureen O'Hara, Joan Banks,
Cathy Lewis, Tallulah Bankhead, Virginia Bruce, Merle Oberon, Ida Lupino,
Shelley Winters, Joan Davis, Benita Colman, Paula Winslowe, Gene
Tierney, Gale Storm, Minerva Pious, Gracie Fields, Elspeth Eric, Dinah
Shore, Greer Garson, Nancy Kelly, and Lydia Bruce.

Of course, these are only a few of the actors and actresses I could think
of on the spur of the moment.  I honestly believe, however, that
selecting
favorites, in anything, is rather like a parent publicly admitting which
is
his or her favorite child.

My question for the members of the mailing list, while we're on the
subject
of favorites, is what acting teams (comedy or drama) had the best
chemistry
when on the radio?  I'd be interested to discover what the answers would
be.

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:54:10 -0500
From: Al Girard <agirard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Fibber's 1942 Christmas

Teeny singing "The Night Before Christmas" was first
performed on Fibber McGee and Molly on December 22, 1942,
and it was repeated in Christmas episodes a few times in
later years.  I get queries about that show from visitors
to my site quite often, and it would seem that a lot of people
have a touch of nostalgia  when they think of that song.

I have that show scheduled for posting on the website
in a little over a week, so be sure to watch for it.

Al Girard

Unofficial Fibber McGee and Molly home Page
[removed]

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:52:07 -0500
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Andy Mansfield

So glad to see the name of director Andy Mansfield.  I hadnt thought of him
in years.

He did a lot of work at several of the Los Angeles stations which I
frequented, and I often sat with him in the booth while the shows were being
done.  He was a very soft-spoken man with a very wry [removed] loved being
around him!  [removed] did a great job of directing.

Lois Culver
KWLK Radio (Mutual) Longview, WA 1941-44
KFI Radio (NBC) Los Angeles CA 1945-47, 50-53
Widow of Howard Culver, actor

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 00:24:39 -0500
From: JDavis3153@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Apex DVD Player

Yesterday, Ferd Berney wrote:

Apex makes a DVD player that also plays back MP3.  Although it will not
play back files sampled at 22.

I recently purchased the Apex AD-500W from Wal Mart for my bedroom
specifically because it would play MP3's even though I was pretty sure that I
was going to have to convert my OTR MP3 files.  I quickly glanced through the
owner's manual and found that 44Khz was listed under the specs for MP3
playback.

Well, just to be sure, I threw in a disc of 22Khz OTR MP3's and, to my
surprise, the file played.  I shuffled through several programs on the disc
and then tried another half-dozen or so other discs.  This machine has played
everything!  I couldn't be more satisfied.  Only eight characters of the file
name are displayed, and I've got to figure out a way to keep the player from
playing all night long!

Merry Christmas to all,

Jeff

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:59:22 -0500
From: "welsa" <welsa@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fibber's 1942 Christmas Show

I don't know if the entire show is available, but I have an excerpt from it.
Edited out of my version is Alice Darling, Doc Gamble and Harlow Wilcox's
middle
commercial--which I think is one of the most original Johnson's commercial
in
the series.  And it's not even Christmas-related.

What I do have, however, is the complete script for this show.  Our local
re-creation group performs this somewhere every Christmas.  I'd be happy to
e-mail it to anyone who would like it--please specify Word or WordPerfect
format.

Ted

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:04:45 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Jugheads Voice

David Martin asked:

After hearing an episode of Archie, I wish to ask Mr. Stone how close was the
Jughead voice to his own,

Ye Gads, David. I would have been embarrassed as hell to have that squeaky
voice as my own. (By the way, Digest subscribers call me "Hal").  Mr. is way
too [removed] Polite, [removed] but not necessary among friends. (Except
maybe Ian Grieve, who has a Monarchy background). He gets to call me "Sir
Hal".

Also, how hard was it to keep that voice for an entire program.  Eg. without
going out of character.

Actually, David, I first did "The Voice" as a teenager (13), so it wasn't at
all difficult to get the vocal cords into a higher "register", with an
occasional "break" in it. As I matured, and my voice got deeper, I just
pitched it higher to do the show, with no strain, (even at age 23).  Now, at
70, I can still do "The Voice" for recreations.

I'd say I was fortunate to not go around talking like that in public. And it
was never a strain to do the entire show. Not to mention, reading the lines
in Character during all the rehearsals.

I think there is a great deal of similarity between "Jugheads" voice and
that of "Dexter" on "our Miss Brooks". And fortunately, like Richard Crenna
who played that part, our natural speaking voices are also similar. (Except,
perhaps, mine is a bit deeper and sexier) :)

Character Actors often trained themselves to do different "Voices" and
dialects. That way, they had a broader range, and found more job
opportunities.

Awww. Relax, [removed]! (Did you hear the "rusty squeak"?)

Hal(Harlan)Stone

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:39:28 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Calvin and the Colonel

Mark Kinsler wrote:

On one was Freeman Gosden
and Charles Correll hiking toward the camera, carrying shotguns and several
turkeys that they'd dispatched therewith.  They looked fairly young in the
picture, which I think was from the 1940's

Freeman and Charlie were avid hunters, and especially liked the area
around Lake Geneva, where they would often go for weekend trips. The only
time they ever missed a broadcast was as a result of a hunting trip in
November 1935 -- they got lost after dark and couldn't get to the studio
in time for the early broadcast. Bill Hay ended up filling time for
fifteen minutes by reading the Bible to organ accompaniment, and the
performers were very apologetic when they finally showed up. They made
the western broadcast OK, but the East never heard that night's episode.

All of which got me thinking: are there any videos of "Calvin and the
Colonel" extant, and would they give otherwise uninformed kids a good idea
of what the radio or TV series was like?  I think that just the sound track
would likely be adequate, actually.

"Calvin" has never been legally released -- it's owned by MCA/Universal,
and is still very much under copyright. However, bootlegs made from
black-and-white 16mm MCA-TV syndication prints have been circulating for
quite a while, and there's usually someone selling them on eBay, if you
aren't squeamish about dealing with film pirates. I'd love to see an
authorized issue of this program, because it was actually filmed in color
-- and the animation was very striking.

The scripts are often loosely adapted from late-era A&A sitcom episodes,
mostly from the early fifties. The adaptations aren't exact -- after all,
CBS owned those shows, and would have frowned on anything that smacked
too closely of copyright infringement -- and there are a lot of
cartoon-oriented sight gags added. It's *not* a literal adaptation of
A&A, but the voices and basic characterizations are the same. The most
notable difference is the fact that there is no "Amos" figure in "Calvin
and the Colonel."

The critical rap on this show when it first aired was that the plots were
too elaborate for an animated series -- but what really killed it was the
fact that the animation studio couldn't keep up with the pace of
production, and often missed the delivery dates for completed episodes.
ABC panicked, and cancelled the show before it had a chance to really
build a following. It wasn't anywhere near Correll and Gosden's best or
most representative work -- but it had its moments.

Elizabeth

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:24:37 -0500
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Snow White

Just a note for those who have DVD players - according to today's Wall Street
Journal, the DVD edition of "Snow White" includes a 1937 radio broadcast from
the premier.

On a separate but related note, Rhoda Williams, who played Grizella (sp) in
the film has been a guest at the Newark and Seattle Old Time Radio
conventions and according to herself is one of three surviving cast members.

Sean Dougherty
Kubelski@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:08:25 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Cataloging Your Collection

Harlan Zinck explained why it was important to note things like the
matrix number of a disc, and then reported on MS 101951-1, a "16-inch
NBC syndication pressing of the 'Ford V-8 Revue,' program #32 with
Ferde' Grofe, possibly recorded for extension spotting and dating from
the mid-1930's."  He then asked me: "Based on the numberslisted, what
else can you tell me about this disk?"

Happy to oblige.  How about the date?  It was probably between May 29
and June 3, 1936.  While there is a chance that these might be from a
block of numbers set aside for some specific purpose--thus the date
might be slightly later--this number falls in between two recording
sessions on those dates.  Eddy Duchin and His Orchestra recorded four
sides on 101883 thru 6 on the former date, and Willie Bryant and his
orch recorded four sides on 102003 thru 6 on the latter date.  Although
the master book listing the 16-inch discs has been missing from RCA for
many years, we might be able to home in closer on the date at the BMG
Listings Dept. itself because only the discopgraphical info on the
standard popular masters have been published so far.
Three other things can be seen from this matrix number.  The M indicates
that it was a 16-inch 33 1/3 standard groove master, and the S indicates
it was recorded using the later generation Western Electric equipment.
The -1 indicates that it was take one, which is what would be expected
for a live broadcast.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:35:46 -0500
From: nicoll <nicoll@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re Emerson

Per Bob's suggestion I wrote to Emerson:

"I've got some CDs that were burned at 24kbps / 22khz.
They are not [removed] are old time radio programs.
What products do you have that would play these CDs?"

Emerson's reply:
"Emerson's Mp3 player should play those cds with no problems."

Will Nicoll

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