Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #410
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Date: 10/20/2002 9:03 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 410
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      "Sarah's Private Caper" NBC           [ Tony Baechler <tony@[removed]; ]
      "Invitation to Learning"              [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      FOTR convention                       [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Charlotte Greenwood                   [ "Elizabeth Minney" <epminney@wcsonl ]
      Re: Passing Parade                    [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
      Phone Numbers                         [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
      Disney on radio                       [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      All Things Thurl                      [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
      Re:Disney radio                       [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
      My Little Boy                         [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Jazz                                  [ davesline@[removed] ]
      DC and Baltimore clubs                [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Radio Spirits Bob Hope bonus tape     [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
      old tele numbers                      [ Ronald Staley <mrvintageradio@earth ]

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:16:26 -0400
    From: Tony Baechler <tony@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Sarah's Private Caper" NBC

    Hello all.  Has anyone heard of the above show?  It is not listed in J.
    David Goldin's site, [removed]  It ran on NBC and apparently
    started in 1950.  I have been going through many "Dragnet" shows and hear
    it mentioned at the end.  It is apparently a comedy.  Do any survive and
    can anyone give me an idea what they are about?  Thanks as always.

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:19:48 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Invitation to Learning"

    Just dropping a note to let everyone concerned know that if you pre-ordered
    your copy of the INVITATION TO LEARNING book during the past few months, or
    on the OTR DIGEST's book fund-raiser, the wait is over.  The books arrived
    yesterday and they are being packed as fast as they can, and will be shipped
    Saturday morning and Monday morning, so you should have your copy by the end
    of the week at latest.  I know a couple people have been asking when it's
    going to be published but don't worry, it's available now.  (Remember that
    the book is a "limited printing" unlike any other book I've written, and
    being sold on a first come, first serve basis, starting with number one and
    working towards #500.)
    Martin Grams, Jr.

    INVITATION TO LEARNING will be at the FOTR convention later this week (talk
    about cutting close) as well as the ELLERY QUEEN ON RADIO book (my
    co-author, Francis M. Nevins, the award-winning mystery author (two Edgars!)
    will be there on Saturday to sign books and participate for an Ellery Queen
    panel with Bill Owens (radio's Ellery Queen) but Francis will be there
    autographing ONLY for a few hours so be sure to get your copy autographed by
    both authors.

    Martin Grams, Jr.

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:20:19 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FOTR convention

    For any newcomers of the Digest, be sure to come attend the Friends of Old
    Time Radio Convention Thursday, Friday or Saturday.  A few people on the
    Digest showed up last year for the first time and have acknowledged that
    they loved it so much they are coming back this year.  If you have never
    visited, trust me, you'll love it.  Even if it's just for a few hours,
    admission is nt expensive at all, and you'll find dealers selling anything
    from old book, new books about OTR, tapes, movie posters, lobby cards, radio
    premiums, etc.  You'll meet people on this digest and fans you can make
    friends with and find traders and such just like you.  And the best part
    about it is that everyone is really friendly and nice - literally.

    Events are as follows:
    THURSDAY
    Howard Blue discusses about radio and WWII, Fred Berney will talk about tape
    recording, mini discs and collecting, and both fellas know their stuff.

    FRIDAY
    Dave Zwengler will have a Quiz Show, there's a panel about Have Gun - Will
    Travel with Anthony Tollin and me, an interesting feature about Child Stars
    on radio and the Gotham Radio Players will be presenting on stage, a
    recreation of the LIGHTS OUT drama, "Chicken Heart."

    SATURDAY
    Hal stone will be talking on stage (Hi Hal!) and be sure to catch up to Hal
    at the convention, if I am not mistaken, his book will be at the convention
    so you can get your copy autographed, Hedda Hopper with nephew Bob Furry and
    Jack French, and an Ellery Queen panel with Francis M. Nevins and Bill Owens
    (radio's Ellery Queen).

    Schedule is tentative, but if you can drive, hop on Jersey Turnpike and take
    exit 14, and then take second right marked FRONTAGE ROAD after the toll
    booth - take the second right, not the first.  It's at the Holiday Inn.
    Easy to find.
    See ya all there!

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:20:27 -0400
    From: "Elizabeth Minney" <epminney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Charlotte Greenwood

    I've been listening to the Charlotte Greenwood show lately (broadcast
    in 1944 and 1945).  The tapes are muffled-sounding and are often hard
    to understand, but I think I recognize Sam Edwards and certainly
    Richard Crenna.  I don't know who plays the blustering (annoying) Mr.
    Anderson, though.  And who plays Junior, the elevator "boy" who's
    really an old codger with a leering eye.

    Harry Bartell is unmistakable and has played a sailor, a soldier, a bus
    driver, and a man scandalized by Charlotte's mistaken entry into his
    apartment (Nobody does *scandalized* as well as Mr. Bartell).  He also
    does a wonderful Texas Marine (December 3, 1944 episode, "Abandoned
    Baby"), and this is especially fun to hear after learning that Bartell
    really did speak (and maybe still does in real life) with a Texas
    accent.

    It's interesting to note the show's format:  the first act of the
    sketch, a commercial for Hallmark cards, a song by the Hallmark chorus
    (the music on these marginal tapes is awful), return to the sketch, a
    song by Charlotte, and at last a finish of the sketch.  The show
    follows the vaudeville pattern, for she came out of vaudeville.  I
    expect too that this is the reason for the heavy use of blustering,
    shouting, and stuttering by Mr. Anderson and the Judge.

>     >From what I've read about Charlotte Greenwood she was a very tall (she

    once described herself as being over 6 feet), slim, flexible dancer
    known for her extremely high kicks and irrepressible spirits.
    Evidently Ethel Merman was jealous of Charlotte, and ultimately Merman
    saw to it that they didn't appear in the same show.

    The program grows on you.  Even though the bellowing of Mr. Anderson is
    tiresome, the repartee is often clever (though NOT subtle), and the
    stories really give you some insight into some of the privations during
    the war years.  I didn't know that in 1944 housing was often impossible
    to find.  And many times Charlotte will zip off a comment on how hard
    it is to get the laundry done--it sounds as though it was common
    practice to send your washing out.  And there were announcements
    exhorting people to stay at home and not to travel.  I knew that cars,
    gas, and tires were in really short supply during the war years, but I
    didn't realize that the trains and buses were so packed.

    Another eye-opener is their frequent reference to the extremely young
    age of officers.  "You're not young enough to be a lieutenant!" says
    Charlotte to Harry Bartell's Marine.

    At the end of each show Charlotte speaks seriously to her audience
    about the importance of a cheerful word and of staying in touch with
    the fighting men overseas and of keeping the faith.  After the zany
    carryings on of the program her sincere encouragement is very
    effective.  It certainly would have buoyed me up if I had been
    listening in 1944 and 1945.

    The above is a long, chatty posting, but I thought some of you might be
    interested in a show that is not really well known.  (At least I hadn't
    heard of it before).

    Elizabeth Minney

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:20:44 -0400
    From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Passing Parade

    As usual I missed the start of this subject. If I understand it correctly,
    someone is trying to find all the Passing Parades for John Nesbit's
    grandchild. I may have all or at least most of them. Someone who has them
    on 16mm film has been sending them to me to have them put onto DVD.

    Would the person who is looking for the shows to give to the grandchild,
    please contact me directly. I would be more than happy to give them either
    a DVD copy or VHS. I do have the ability to transfer them to PAL.

    Fred
    berney@[removed]
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:17:29 -0400
    From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Phone Numbers

              I remember one of the telephone exchanges
    in Richardson TX began with ADams.  My grandmother's
    phone number years ago was AD 5-1028.

              On  the OTR show Candy Matson, she used her
    telephone number on the programs intro.  Does
    anyone remember what the telephone numbers were?

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:17:38 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Disney on radio

>     Did Disney ever do anything else in radio?

    Nothing I know of before they bought Capital Cities/ABC a few years ago.
    There's been some talk of Disney selling off ABC Radio Networks if they can
    make a good deal.

>     >From what i have read, Disney has been plagued with half a dozen problems

    the past year - one is that the ABC network has taken a loss of $50 million
    since January so I'm not surprised that they are considering offering any
    part of the ABC networks, radio or television to recoop losses.

    It was to my understanding, of which I did not get one myself, that their
    DVD release of SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS actually included extra
    features of radio broadcasts including the Mickey Mouse Theater, a live
    broadcast of the premiere showing where a reporter interviewed Disney and
    the cast, and a Lux Radio Theater version of SNOW WHITE.  (Course my
    all-time favorite Fractured Fairy Tales episode of Rocky and Bullwinkle is
    the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs episode).  If you search for the DVD,
    you might be able to get a copy of one of those Mickey Mouse episodes, if
    they didn't pull the DVD off the shelves yet.

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:18:28 -0400
    From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  All Things Thurl

    <Irene posted the Kellog's reply about "Tony, The Tiger"..>

    Here's the only web site dedicated to Thurl Ravenscroft
    created by Brian E. Jacob with all the information about Thurl's career, his
    biography, solo and quartet recordings, films and television with the Disney
    connection, his many commercials with some audio clips (G-r-r-e-e-a-a-t!),
    his early radio appearances, photos, contact information, etc. There is a
    monthly, featured sound on this web site by Thurl - a talent treasure and a
    real gentleman who now lives in an Orange County, CA retirement community:

    [removed]

    Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:17:54 -0400
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re:Disney radio

    On the thread about Disney radio geared for kids. They often run contests
    for something or other. I knew a young Wisconsin girl of 10 who entered one
    about 4 years ago. The prize was a new car. She won! How do I know this for
    a fact. Because I rode in it. Fortunately, she wasn't driving. Her Mother
    sort of "Borrows" it until she's older. :)

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    Jughead

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:19:02 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  My Little Boy

    <Twizoner@[removed]; informed us:

>     Located at [removed], the site provides a brief
>     history of the Mercury Theater and complete logs of both MT & Campbell
>     Playhouse, and Real Audio & MP3 options to listen to the shows.

    I recall someone on this list was looking for a broadcast of "My Little
    Boy." I don't remember which version they were seeking, but I notice
    that there is a dramatization of that story offered at this site.

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:00:28 -0400
    From: davesline@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jazz

    I have been racking my brain, on those days when I can find it, trying to
    remember the name of a radio program that played Jazz music, but the intro's
    were done in the style of a high brow classical music program. Can anyone tell
    me the name of the program and possibly a little about it. Thanks

    --
    Dave Palmer

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:00:50 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  DC and Baltimore clubs

    Walden Hughes asks:

>     Does any one have a current contact for the Golden Radio Buff in Marlin, and
>     the Metro Era Washington Old Time Radio club.  I had a listeners who would
>     be interested in learning about the Clubs.

    The Golden Radio Buffs of Maryland can be contacted through their web
    site: [removed] or by emailing their co-founder,
    Owens Pomeroy, at Opomeroy@[removed]

    The Metropolitan Washington Old Time Radio Club can be contacted at our
    new web site (now under construction) at [removed] or by emailing
    me at OTRpiano@[removed]

    Jack  French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 16:07:55 -0400
    From: leemunsick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Spirits Bob Hope bonus tape

    I am informed that Radio Spirits has a catalog offer by which if one
    purchases a set, one may obtain a free tape of Bob Hope with Arthur Godfrey.

    Apparently the tape is not listed by itself in the catalog.

    If anyone is planning to buy a RS set and would be willing to acquire the
    Hope-Godfrey tape and send it to me, I will certainly appreciate it.  I am
    hoping that it is the elusive program from the 1950s Tobacco Distributors
    Association Chicago convention week.  All the Chesterfield stars appeared
    there, and cross-guested on each others' programs for the week.

    On one show,  Bing Crosby and Arthur Godfrey razzed each other regarding
    Hi-C and Hi-V, their respective new frozen orange juice sponsors (and in
    which each owned a piece).  I heard this when it was aired and got a big
    laugh out of it.  I've been trying to get this ever since!

    Any help will be greatly appreciated.  I am on too tight a budget to be
    purchasing a lot of other sets!

    Thanks so much.  Lee Munsick

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    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:28:27 -0400
    From: Ronald Staley <mrvintageradio@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  old tele numbers

    I remember in 1955, when the Yellow Cab Company of San francisco had a
    commercial that ended with the words
    Tuxedo 5 .... 1 2 3 4, as part of their singing jingle.

    I believe in old radio times, there were several programs, can't recall
    which ones but on these shows, the good guys would listen to phone numbers
    being dialed. The racheting sound of the dial clicking and its number of
    clicks gave the person listening the clue as to whom the person was calling.

    Just a trivial note, the dial phone, using the spring dial method is not
    really unlike the old use of telegraph keys which used a magnet and metal
    to click together to form the Morse code signals.

    The dial phone employed similar electro-magnetic force to create the dial
    sound. Wouldn't you love a penny for every ratchet of that dial. The
    inventor was a genius and most probably was grossly underpaid.

    ron

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