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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 11
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                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Kitty Carlisle Hart Profiled in San   [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
      Wally Cox/"Mr. Peepers"               [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
      OTR Bids for the Presidency           [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Lone Ranger Biography series          [ [removed]@[removed] ]
      7 Front Street                        [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      For what it's worth                   [ "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@veri ]
      Hollywood/LA studio locations         [ "evantorch" <etorch@[removed]; ]
      Greatest Entertainer                  [ "Tom Bewley" <fords3137@[removed] ]
      Were there any Ozzie & Harriet speci  [ Rutledge Mann <cliff_marsland@yahoo ]
      Ed Sullivan's "Cavalcade of Radio"    [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
      Cinnamon Bear                         [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
      Olive Higgins Prouty                  [ "Stuart Lubin" <stuartlubin@[removed] ]
      Greatest Radio Performer              [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      Re: the dark                          [ "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:04:29 -0500
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kitty Carlisle Hart Profiled in San Francisco
     Chronicle

    Link is below.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:35:49 -0500
    From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Wally Cox/"Mr. Peepers"

    Concerning the recent discussion on Wally Cox; this just in:

    I received a catalogue this week from "Movies Unlimited" listing a DVD with
    20 Mr Peepers shows!

    Sells for $[removed]; catalogue number: D7-9235.

    Website is [removed]

    I clearly remember going to Rockefeller's late Center Theater to watch this
    show being televised "live." Amazing to think that this huge Art Deco movie
    palace was reduced to being a TV studio.

    BILL KNOWLTON

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    Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:36:40 -0500
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR Bids for the Presidency
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    Melanie Aultman queried:

>     I was aware of Eddie Cantor's bid for the presidency, and just read _Gracie
>     Allen for President l940_.  Did any other OTR personalities throw their hats
>     into the ring?

    Well, for the benefit of Melanie & the other GATORZ (Gainesville Area Team Of
    Radio Zealots),  I can offer instances of other characters who were featured
    on the radio---altho' their mock presidential bids might not have necessarily
    been reflected on their respective radio shows.

    Andy Gump of "The Gumps" comic strip ran for president in 1924 (this is the
    earliest mock-presidential campaign of which I'm aware). "The Gumps" radio
    programme, I believe, came years after this.

    Howdy Doody's bid to be elected "president of all the boys and girls of
    America" was  probably largely a TV affair. I never heard any episodes of the
    contemporaneous  "Howdy Doody" radio show to know if this campaign spilled
    over from TV and onto the radio.

    Betty Boop ran for president in her 1932 cartoon "Betty Boop for President."
    Buxton/Owen lists a radio show called "Betty Boop's Fables." Similarly, Olive
    Oyl, who was featured on the "Popeye" Wheateena show in the mid-1930s, ran for
    president in a Paramount/Famous cartoon of the late 1940s/early 1950s titled,
    if I remember correctly, "Olive Oyl for President." At this point, Famous was,
    er,  infamous for recycling plots from 1930s Fleischer cartoons  which were
    also under the Paramount umbrella.

    Some one-time  1930s radio sports announcer with the nickname "Dutch"  ran for
    president in 1980 and again in 1984. Let's just leave it at that.

    "Hail to the Ether!"

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:40:48 -0500
    From: [removed]@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lone Ranger Biography series

    Derek asked:

>     Did The Lone Ranger ever meet any other historical personages in his radio
>     adventures?

    Yes they did what was called a Biography series. You really need to explore the
    series as there are over 1300 episodes available from Internet dealers (if you
    believe their catalogs)
    Some of the Biography broadcasts included:
    03/06/44 #1736/ 956 Bat Masterson (Biography Series)
    03/13/44 #1739/ 959 Pawnee Bill (Biography Series)
    04/03/44 #1748/ 968 Ben Thompson (Biography Series)
    04/10/44 #1751/ 971 Calamity Jane (Biography Series)
    04/24/44 #1757/ 977 Sam Bass (Biography Series)
    05/08/44 #1763/ 983 Annie Oakley  (Biography Series)
    05/19/44 #1768/ 988 Teddy Roosevelt, No. 1  (Biography Series)
    05/22/44 #1769/ 989 Teddy Roosevelt, No. 2  (Biography Series)
    06/12/44 #1778/ 998 John Wesley Hardin  (Biography Series)
    06/26/44 #1784/1004 Billy The Kid  (Biography Series)
    07/17/44 #1793/1013 Kit Carson  (Biography Series)

    And there were many more!

    Paul Urbahns
    Radcliff, KY

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    Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:56:27 -0500
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  7 Front Street

    Andrew Steinberg asks:

>     Does anyone know when the radio show 7 Front Street premiered, what day it
>     ran on, and/or how long it lasted?

    According to Hickerson's newest guide, it aired only once:  Thursday, Oct. 2,
    1947, 8 [removed] on MBS

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:38:54 -0500
    From: "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  For what it's worth

    Hi Gang,

    To the best of my recollection, these are, at least, some of the historical
    characters the Lokne Ranger is supposed to have met:  Sam Bass, William
    Bonny (Billy The Kid), Pat Garrett, Bat Masterson, James Butler (Wild Bill)
    Hickock, and either Pres. Lincoln or Pres. Grant.  This last was in the
    first part of a traiterous outlaw band known as The Black Arrow.  My memory
    isn't as good as it used to be, so I can't remember whether the story was
    set during or sometime after the Civil War.

    I hope this helps a little.

    Buck Saunders

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    Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:21:40 -0500
    From: "evantorch" <etorch@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hollywood/LA studio locations

    I will be in Los Angeles next week and would appreciate the locations of the
    studio locations. Of course I am aware of the NBC location at Sunset and
    Vine and the soon to die Columbia Square, but how about the locations of ABC
    and Mutual, as well as the addresses for LUX. Needless to say none still
    stand bt at least I wold be interested in the sites. As an aside, I've heard
    5000 stories about people running all over NYC to resolve "conflicts", but
    how about some Hollywood routes.
    Evan Torch, MD
    Atlanta
    etorch@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:12:33 -0500
    From: "Tom Bewley" <fords3137@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Greatest Entertainer
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    I agree with those who have written that it is probably not possible to
    determine who was the greatest entertainer. It might be better to attempt to
    determine who was the most popular. Record sales,  Billboard chart statistics,
    Hooper and Nielsen ratings,box office receipts, etc could be used to measure
    popularity.
     I offer the following in support of Bing Crosby as one of the most popular
    entertainers. It has been mentioned that Bing was on radio for 31 years. His
    weekly Kraft Music Hall show drew 50 million listeners when the US population
    was about 200 million. In comparison, "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?"peaked
    at 36 million .The current US population exceeds 295 million.
     Bing was the first full-time vocalist ever signed to an orchestra. He made
    1668 studio [removed] is more than anyone else in history. Between 1927
    and 1962 he scored 368 charted records under his own name plus 28 as a
    vocalist with various bandleaders, for a total of 396. By comparison Sinatra
    (209), Presley(149), The Beatles (68). He had the most number one hits, (38).
    The Beatles had (24) and Elvis (18)." White Christmas" is said to be the # 1
    selling record of all time.
     Between 1915 and 1980 he was the only movie star to rank as the number one
    box-office attraction five times(1944-1948).He was nominated three times for
    Academy Award best actor. He won for Going My Way. He appeared on [removed],000
    radio broadcasts, nearly 3,400of them his own [removed] does not permit
    detailing his televison work. Source: Gary Giddin's Bing-bio, "A Pocket Full
    of Dreams". 2001

    Tom Bewley
    Shoreline, Washington

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:13:29 -0500
    From: Rutledge Mann <cliff_marsland@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Were there any Ozzie & Harriet specials?

    Hi,

    I'm tring to solve a mystery of a recording I have -
    I'm not sure if it was a cut-down show, or was it some
    kind of special.  The ABC discs were titled "Circus
    Story" (8/31/49), and it runs about 15 minutes.  The
    plot revolves around going to the circus of course.
    It's been bugging me for a while, and I'd like to find
    out exactly what it is.  The plot seems to be
    complete, so I don't know if it's merely a cut-down
    show.  I got it as part of ABC discs (I Deal In Crime,
    Fisherman's Wharf, Fat Man, Charlie Chan, etc.) I
    bought a few years back  (It must have been the
    world's worst engineer- much to my chagrin, the one
    marked Terry and the Pirates except for the theme
    song, was a political broadcast.  He also messed up I
    Deal In Crime, one can hear part of the Vaughn Monroe
    show theme with the audio of that for the first
    minute!

    I really like Ozzie & Harriet, but unfortunately, the
    shows (except for the 1948-9 ones) seem to be hard to
    find, at least in hi-quality, low-generation
    condition.

    The same goes for Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical
    Knowledge.  I never see any of those, except for AFRS
    discs I come across.  I guess it's an umpopular
    series, but I think it's pretty fun.

    Trav

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:29:39 -0500
    From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ed Sullivan's "Cavalcade of Radio"

    I was looking over an issue of TV GUIDE for the week of January 29, 1955, and
    found the following listing - which takes up nearly a full column - for
    Sunday the 30th:

    TOAST OF THE TOWN - Variety
    Ed offers "A Cavalcade of Radio, 1920-1955," based on the Ben Gross book "I
    Looked and I Listened."  Stars are scheduled to appear from New York and
    Hollywood to recreate the past.  Harry Von Zell is our West Coast emcee.
    GUEST STARS: Eve Arden, Edward Arnold, Gene Autry, Red Barber, Andre Baruch,
    Jack Benny, Gertrude Berg, Edgar Bergen & Charlie, Norman Brokenshire, Eddie
    Cantor, Milton Cross, William Conrad, Jessica Dragonette, Fitzgeralds, John
    Gambling, Jay Jostyn, Art Linkletter, Vincent Lopez, Ted Mack, Edward R.
    Murrow, Pickens Sisters, Frank Parker, Peter Potter, Roger Pryor, Bob
    Rockwell, David Ross, George Seaton (the original "Lone Ranger"), Lanny Ross,
    George Shelton, Rudy Vallee, Paul Whiteman, Ed Wynn.

    Also appearing are some of the soap opera heroines with whom Mrs. Housewife
    has suffered, lo, these many years: Claire Neisen (Backstage Wife); Ann
    Hillary (Brighter Day); Susan Douglas (Guiding Light); Virginia Paine (Ma
    Perkins); Margaret Draper (Perry Mason); Betty Wragge (Pepper Young's
    Family); Claudia Morgan (Right to Happiness); Virginia Dwyer (Road of Life);
    Virginia Kaye (Rosemary); Jone Allison (Young Dr. Malone); Florence Freeman
    (Wendy Warren); Jan Miner (Hilltop House); Joan Tompkins (Nora Drake); Julie
    Stephens (Romance of Helen Trent); Patsy Campbell (Second Mrs. Burton); Agnes
    Young (Aunt Jenny); Toni Darnay (Just Plain Bill); Wendy Drew (Young Widder
    Brown); Vivian Smolen (Our Gal Sunday).
    ****

    Whew!  That sounds like a pretty full hour.  Does anyone know if a kinescope
    exists of this program, and has anyone here seen it?  More importantly, were
    any of the actresses portraying the "soap opera heroines" listed above
    unknown to us, or are they all "present and accounted for" in our latter-day
    logs and documentation?  And where does the Ben Gross book stand among the
    historians on this list?

    Michael

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:29:56 -0500
    From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
    To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cinnamon Bear

    Hi all,
    Regarding one of my boys favorite Christmas traditions, the Cinamon Bear, I
    always figured that Nicky Frooddle was played by the same person that did the
    W C
    Fields type voice on Fibber.  Wasn't his name Boomer on Fibber Mcgee?
    But what his real name was I don't know.
    Bill

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:18:11 -0500
    From: "Stuart Lubin" <stuartlubin@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Olive Higgins Prouty

    Thanks to Jim Cox for giving us more information on the relationship between
    Olive Higgins Prouty and the Hummerts.  I do not understand why Prouty did
    not dis-allow her "Stella Dallas" creation from being aired.  Legally, could
    she have dis-allowed it? Was she getting any money for its use? Maybe that
    is the answer.  I know she was getting credit, and I thank Jim for giving us
    the "Stella Dallas" opening again.  Sometimes the openings of "suds" were
    just as enjoyable as the continuing story, at least to me. (I am using the
    word "suds" generically because more accurately this was Sterling Drugs, but
    as a child, I would rather have drunk suds than Phillips Milk of Magnesia.)

    Prouty did get good credit for the use of her character because, not daily,
    but sometimes, at the end of the show, Frank Gallup would refer to "her
    great novel", although, at the top of the show, she got credit daily.  In my
    opinion, the radio program was much better than "her great novel".  They
    also made it clear, at least toward the end of the run,  that the episodes
    dealt with the "later life" of Stella.

    I wonder how many of you OTR fans loved the daily openings of soaps as much
    as I did, and still do.  Even among my non-OTR acquaintances, years
    ago,everybody was aware of the most famous of those openings: Helen Trent
    finding romance after the ripe old age of 35.

    Stuart

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:01:38 -0500
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Greatest Radio Performer
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           Hmmm.  I don't believe that this question will ever be answered, due
    to the fact that there were so many who fit the criteria.  Also the tastes
    of the listening public was so varied, that a single answer would have been
    very difficult to find without leaving others out.

           My choices would have been:

    (1) Edgar Bergen, et al.
    (2) Marie Wilson
    (3) Natalie Park Masters

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:55:18 -0500
    From: "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: the dark

>     The program "Lights Out"  broadcast a show on 12 / 29 / 1937 titled
>     "The Dark".  Does anyone know where I can get a complete version of

    this

>     program. If not, a copy of the script.

    The Library of American Broadcasting at the University of Maryland has
    a twenty-five page copy of the script, dated January 19, 1938.

    There's a McFarland book coming out later this year by Richard J. Hand
    called "Terror on the Air!" Apparently, the author saw the script and
    discusses it.

    Here's some more info about the book:

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    Terror on the air!: horror radio in America, 1931-1952 / Richard J.
    Hand ;...

    LC Control Number: 2005025351

    Contents:

    Horror beyond horror: horror radio in the golden age of American
    broadcasting

    Hosts and music, sound and silence: narrative techniques and formal
    strategies in horror radio

    The cult of the actor: acting and genre in horror radio of the golden
    age

    The grandmother of horror radio: Alonzo Deen Cole and The witch's tale
    (1931-1938)

    The ultimate in horror: Lights out (1934-1947), Arch Oboler and horror

    Exploring horror form and genre: the Hermit's Cave (1935-1944)

    The paradigm of horror radio: Himan Brown and Inner sanctum mysteries
    (1941-1952)

    The eclectic horrors of Robert A. Arthur and David Kogan: The
    mysterious traveler (1943-1952)

    The unsettling universe of Wyllis Cooper and Ernest Chappell: Quiet,
    please (1947-1949).

    Summary: "This full-length study of golden age horror radio focuses on
    six representative programs, starting with The Witch's Tale in 1931
    and ending with The Mysterious Traveler in 1952. Each chapter provides
    a critically and historically informed study of one series. The book
    ends with a look at the demise of horror radio and its
    influence"--Provided by publisher.
    Subjects: Horror radio programs--United States--History.
    LC Classification: [removed]+

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