Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #347
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Date: 11/10/2005 8:53 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 347
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      [removed] It Isn't So!         [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Little cigarette boxes = = =          [ RBB <oldradio@[removed]; ]
      Mystery Time not a mystery any more   [ "Jim Cox" <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Mystery Time                          [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      Center Moriches                       [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
      OTR research available                [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
      Bird on Jubilee                       [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
      11-10 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Cinnamon Bear and Children            [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 21:39:59 -0500
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  [removed] It Isn't So!
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    Bob Burchett, known for his dead-on impersobation of "Titus Moody," wrote:

    Finally worked it out with the Ramada Hotel, and there will
    be a 20th Cincinnati convention. April 21,22, 06
    This very well be out last one.  20 years is a nice run, and
    Robert and myself aren't getting younger.

    Granted, both Bobs--Burchett and Newman--work hard to stage this annual event.
    But should Bob decide that this will be "twenty and out," then I'll miss
    attending every year. I rode to my first Cincinnati convention with Floridian
    Steve Hiss in 1998, and arrived  a day early. While taking my bags out of
    Steve's rental-car, who should come barrelling with his car under the hotel's
    porte cochere  [is that what you call  those overhangs designed to keep
    disembarking automobile passengers dry when it rains?], but that celebrated
    raconteur/spoonerist John Rayburn! I said to Steve, "The convention doesn't
    officially start until tomorrow, but the fun's already begun." Let's hope
    John'll be there for #20, holding court with his stories at some hotel-room
    after-hours party.

    The best thing about the Cincinnati Old Time Radio and Nostalgia
    Convention--and why it succeeds--is that it's everything the big conventions
    are not. . There's not as many panels, workshops, and re-creations as in, say,
    Newark, but this gives the conventioneer ample time to socialise with OTR
    friends. Some of my favourite people who don't make it [removed] include Rene' and
    Steve Thompson with their son David; funnyman Steve Jansen, and his sister
    Lisa; Randy Story; Barbara and Dave Davies; the Hughes family--Dan, Kathy, and
    daughter Karen, one of this hemisphere's biggest Jack Benny fans;  the
    Canadian contingent of Carl Banas, Ken Borden, and Sam Levene; and many
    others.

    You'll find dozens of OTR celebs at FOTR, REPS, and SPERDVAC, but only a
    handful at Cincinnati. Bob B. ususally brings back fan favourites such as Hal
    Stone, Bob hastings, and Rosemary Rice. Not having lots of celebs brings about
    the best part of this convention: re-creation director Don Ramlow holds an
    open casting call for all us non-celebs to fill out secondary parts in the OTR
    programmes to be presented, giving us fans a chance to act alongside some OTR
    greats.

    One thing to recommend is that whatever hotel Bob employs is not as isolated
    as the Holiday Inn in Newark, which is located on an off-highway service road
    amidst a ganglia of jug-handles, cloverleaves, and overpasses. The Cincy venue
    is actually walkable to off-premises places to eat. Also, there is only one
    banquet during the convention--on Saturday night. Prices to attend during the
    day and for the one banquet are quite reasonable. Pending any spikes in
    operation costs, one can attend both days'  daytime events and the banquet for
    under $[removed]

    Awards are presented in honour of early guests Ezra Stone & Willard Waterman,
    Parley Baer, as well as for  Dave Warren (his is for fan re-creationists).

    And then ther'e Robert Newman, the one-man floor manager/ticket taker/raffle
    co-ordinator/emcee, to whom I always address "Hello, Newman," (a la Jerry
    Seinfeld).

    So, if you've never been, I highly recommend it. Start saving your airfare
    [removed] might be your last opportunity for a great deal of friendly
    Midwestern OTR fun. And you all know that fun follows Rodney Bowcock and
    Martin Grams wherever they go.

    Waiting for April in the ether,

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 21:40:44 -0500
    From: RBB <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Little cigarette boxes = = =

    Ted Kneebone and Phil Stallings remind me about the little "promo" boxes
    of free cigarettes the major manufacturers distributed.  There were four
    in a box, because it was calculated that four would get the new smoker
    hooked.

    The medical research indicated that just one or two would only just
    begin the chemical craving process, but lighting up number three was
    the  "big one"  that started the body's system with a nicotine habit.
    Number four was insurance that the reluctant smoker was
    on board. The promo boxes were handed out generously at college campus
    meeting areas, along with a smile and a match light up by college
    students who needed a parttime job working for the cigarette distributors.

    We also had them in the military.  For instance, The Camel Caravan radio
    show announced the sponsor's donation of thousands of cartons every week
    to the guys and gals in the service and they told us on every program
    that the "T-Zone" was the place to test Camels on your own.  Would you
    still walk a mile for one?

    With the Edward R. Morrow film depicting smoking, it only seemed
    natural to be a broadcaster that smoked.  It usually made the voice
    deeper for those who tended to have (or thought they wanted to have) a
    booming bass range. Film noir stories also used the smoke
    effectively to make it OK and glamorous to be a smoker.

    I also remember the comedy routine of Bob Newhart on the radio
    describing a smoker who was rolling his own with loose tobacco inside
    and, he said "You're what?  Now you're going to strike a match and light
    the end of that to set it on [removed] your mouth??"  Very funny stuff.

    I stopped 15 years ago with two trips to the hypnotist.  Yes, it does
    work and without the pendulum swinging medallion.  The radio station
    owner in Newport, RI mandated that if ya wanted to work there, stop
    smoking.  And he arranged an advertising trade for any employee to take
    advantage of.  Best deal he ever made for me,
    it was real health insurance.  I'll never go back!  Weed kills.

    =Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:00:04 -0500
    From: "Jim Cox" <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Mystery Time not a mystery any more
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    My good buddy Ted Meland inquires:

>     I have a recording of a show called "Mystery Time."  The episode is "THe
>     Signal Man," based on Charles Dickens story.

    <snip>

>     Anyone know anything about this show?  Is there a log of the episodes
>     available somewhere that my searching has missed?

    But of course, Ted!  Check out my tome, Radio Crime Fighters:  Over 300
    Programs from the Golden Age  (McFarland, 2002, [removed]) for the
    answers you seek!  Turn to the listing "ABC Mystery Time" on pp. 7-8.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:30:58 -0500
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mystery Time

    On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 09:09 PM, Ted wrote:

>     I have a recording of a show called "Mystery Time."  The episode is "THe
>     Signal Man," based on Charles Dickens story.  I have not been able to find
>     any on-line listing for this show.  At first I thought it might be British,
>     but then I found out that the announcer (Don Dowd) and the star of this
>     episode (Guy Repp) were both active in US radio.

    You're searching under an incomplete title.  That series was called
    "ABC Mystery Time" and it aired in 1957-58, usually on Friday evenings.
    There are about 21 surviving episodes in circulation. I'm not aware of
    any log that has been prepared on that series.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL

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    Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:16:37 -0500
    From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Center Moriches

    It is, indeed, "Center More-riches," or "Senta Mar-itches."

    But, true story, many years ago, when we were guest speakers at ICON, a
    GREAT annual science fiction convention at the State University of
    NewYork, in Stony Brook, NEAR Center Moriches--

    John Peel, the British fantasy historian (a novelist, and comic book
    writer,  as well; he's done some DOCTOR WHO stuff), had just introduced
    me to his wife.

    I asked what she did for a living.

    It was lateish, we were at a party, it was [removed]

    And she said:

    "I'm a children's [removed]  The little bitches."

    For some reason, I started to laugh [removed] SO uproariously,
    that SHE started to laugh uproariously.

    Finally, I said, "Don't you think that's being a little tough?"

    It turned out, Mrs. Peel had said that she was a children's librarian,
    in Center [removed]

    As to those trick New England names?

    I will pose  a question , I first wrote, years ago:

    If Worcester, is "Wooster"--

    Why isn't Dorcester--

    "Dooster"?

    Best, Jim Burns

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    Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:56:39 -0500
    From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR research available

    If anyone needs help with gathering OTR-related
    research in and around the metro Detroit area, I would
    be able to assist with that. Contact me off list to
    discuss details.

    Rick

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    Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:57:00 -0500
    From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bird on Jubilee

    There are many, many Jubilee shows in circulation and easily obtained.  But
    somehow the shows with
    Bird and Diz always seem to be harder to find.   The songs themselves are
    probably easier o find
    than the complete shows.   Bird appeared three times on Jubilee. Here's a
    link to a transcript of
    the spoken dialogue from that particular show you're asking for:

    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:57:20 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  11-10 births/deaths

    November 10th births

    11-10-1889 - Claude Rains - London, England - d. 5-30-1967
    actor: "Shakesperian Circle"; "This Is War!"; "Presenting Claude Rains"
    11-10-1891 - Sidney Breckner - Illinois - d. 6-25-1945
    sound effects: "The Hermit's Cave"
    11-10-1899 - George Storer - Champaign, IL - d. 11-4-1975
    Broadcast Executive
    11-10-1907 - Jane Froman - St. Louis, MO - d. 4-22-1980
    singer: "Florsheim Frolic"; "Bromo Seltzer Hour"; "Gulf Musical Playhouse"
    11-10-1909 - Johnny Marks - Mount Vernon, NY - d. 9-3-1985
    songwriter, lyricist: "Great Moments in Music"
    11-10-1915 - Bob Shepard - d. 12-19-1993
    announcer: "Pot O' Gold"; "Counterspy"; "Break the Bank"; "You Can"t Take it
    with You"
    11-10-1916 - Billy May - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-22-2004
    orchestra leader: "Music Depreciation"; "Stan Freberg Show"
    11-10-1925 - Richard Burton - Pontrhydfen, South Wales - d. 8-5-1984
    actor: Readings of poetry, plays and school programmes for the BBC

    November 10th deaths

    03-04-1916 - William Alland - Delmare, DE - d. 11-10-1997
    actor: "Mercury Theatre"; "Doorway to Life"; "Frontier Gentleman"
    03-26-1918 - William Hardcastle - Newcastle, England - d. 11-10-1975
    newscaster: "The World At One"
    03-28-1910 - Jimmy Dodd - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-10-1964
    singer, songwriter: "Lifebouy Show"; "Command Performance"; "CBS Radio
    Workshop"
    03-29-1924 - Jackie Vernon - New York, NY - d. 11-10-1987
    comedian: "Bill Stern Show"
    06-11-1914 - Gerald Mohr - New York, NY - d. 11-10-1968
    actor: Philip Marlowe "Advs. of Philip Marlowe"; Jacque Monet "Our Miss Brooks"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:53:18 -0500
    From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cinnamon Bear and Children

    In #346, Dennis Crow wrote:

>     It is time once again to prepare to listen to
>     radio's greatest  adventure, "The Cinnamon Bear,"

    Which made me wonder.  What age is a good age to introduce CB to kids?
    For example, I'd like to start my nephew on it, but he is [removed] years old,
    which seems a tad too young still.  I'm sure there are many on this list
    with experience introducing CB to children, what are your experiences /
    recommendations?

    Thanks,
    -chris holm

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