Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #17
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Date: 1/17/2005 8:28 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 17
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      1-17 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Dumb Songs and a non-related questio  [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
      major bowes                           [ "Joseph" <drjoewebb@[removed]; ]
      OTR Listening Habits                  [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
      Fulton Lewis Jr on CBSRMT??           [ Eric Cooper <ercjncpr@[removed]; ]
      Themes and stuff with OTR             [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      Re: Listening to Commercials          [ LBohall@[removed] ]
      Listening to OTR in Work??            [ "Marty" <martyd@[removed]; ]
      What is the preferred device for car  [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
      Listening Habits                      [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
      Re: OTR Listening Habits              [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
      listening habits                      [ "From Mike" <zines50@[removed]; ]
      Jungle Jim question                   [ Chargous@[removed] ]
      Linda Kaye Henning                    [ StuartLubin@[removed] (Stuart Lubin ]
      OTR Listening Habits                  [ Mike Thompson <mthomp86@[removed]; ]
      "Dumb" songs                          [ "James Yellen" <clifengr3@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:45:37 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-17 births/deaths

    January 17th births

    01-17-1875 - Minetta Ellen - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-2-1965
    actress: Francis 'Fanny' Barbour "One Man's Family"
    01-17-1880 - Mack Sennett - Richmond, Quebec, Canada - d. 11-5-1960
    king of silent comedy: "Hear It Now"; "Biography In Sound"
    01-17-1884 - Noah Beery, Sr. - Kansas City, MO - d. 4-1-1946
    actor: "Campbell Playhouse"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-17-1891 - Marjorie Gateson - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-17-1977
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-17-1899 - Nevil Shute - d. 1-12-1960
    novelist: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    01-17-1903 - Warren Hull - Gasport, NY - d. 9-14-1974
    actor: Jack Hamilton "Gibson Family"
    01-17-1904 - Grant Withers - Pueblo, CO - d. 3-27-1959
    actor: "Calling All Cars"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    01-17-1904 - Knox Manning - Worcester, MA - d. 8-26-1980
    announcer: "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes"; "Headlines on Parade"
    01-17-1914 - Howard Marion-Crawford - England - d. 11-24-1669
    actor: Sherlock Holmes "BBC Home Theatre"
    01-17-1919 - Dallas Townsend - NYC - d. 6-1-1995
    newscaster: "CBS World News Roundup"; "World Tonight"
    01-17-1921 - Herb Ellis - Cleveland, OH
    actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"
    01-17-1922 - Betty White - Oak Park, IL (Raised: Beverly Hills, CA)
    hostess: "Betty White on Animals"
    01-17-1927 - Eartha Kitt - North, SC
    singer: "Here's to Veterans"
    01-17-1930 - Dick Contino - Fresno, CA
    accordionist: "Horace Heidt Youth Opportunity Hour"
    01-17-1931 - James Earl Jones - Akabutla, MS
    actor: "We Hold These Truths"
    01-17-1941 - Clive Elvyn Rice (Clyde Campbell) - Haslemere, Surrey, England
    actor: Bobby Benson "Bobby Benson and the B-Bar-B Riders"

    January 17th deaths

    03-06-1916 - Rochelle Hudson - Oklahoma City, OK - d. 1-17-1972
    actress: "Hollywood Hotel"
    07-13-1934 - Philip Crosby - CA - d. 1-17-2004
    actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
    09-26-1919 - Barbara Britton - Long Beach, CA - d. 1-17-1980
    actress: Pamela North "Mr. and Mrs. North"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    10-10-1903 - Vernon Duke - Pskov, Russia - d. 1-17-1969
    broadway composer: "Mildred Baily Show"; "Good News of 1940"; "March of Time"
    12-02-1916 - Charlie Ventura - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-1992
    tenor sazophonist: "Spotlight Bands"; "Gene Krupa and His Orchestra"
    12-15-1896 - Betty Smith - NYC - d. 1-17-1972
    author: "Studio One"; "Hallmark Playhouse"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:04:42 -0500
    From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dumb Songs and a non-related question
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    Hi!

    It wasn't my intention to upset anybody with my "dumb songs" comment.  To be
    honest, my age is 55 and I've heard "Mairzy Doats", "Hut Sut Song", "3 Little
    Fishies" and several others for many, many years.  My parents sang 'em to me
    long before I discovered old-time radio shows.  Being a professional musician,
    I just never found any of them particularly [removed] that's just my
    opinion!
    Every now and then I get a request to play one of [removed] I'm happy to do
    so (because that's my job).

    I have a question and maybe some of you can help me?

    I'm in the process of searching for a good working 4-track tape deck.  I've
    searched ebay and have found a [removed] I need something with a durable
    transport, excellent heads, the [removed] (and maybe the [removed] ips)
    speeds, with the ability to handle 7" reels. [I'd love a deck that could
    handle 10 1/2" reels [removed] I guess I'm asking for a lot?].  The reason
    these specs are necessary is the fact that I have more than 6000 old time
    radio shows to [removed] [removed] see if they're still playable.  I
    know there's more than 900 SUSPENSE programs [removed] JACK BENNY
    [removed] goodness knows what else.  The tapes were obtained in the early
    70s through the early 80s.  At this point, I don't which ones are good and
    which I'll have to toss?

    So if anybody has access or knows somebody who is selling a deck that works
    well (and isn't a piece of junk)....please email me:  gary@[removed]
    Thanks!

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:05:12 -0500
    From: "Joseph" <drjoewebb@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  major bowes

    re the note about the major bowes [removed]

    my old high school, archbishop stepinac in white plains, ny, is home to the
    major bowes bell, and the auditorium is named after major bowes as well. ted
    mack broght the bell to the school sometime in the early 1970s.

    i wonder if the sword might not be worth more as a tax deduction for its
    donation rather than an outright sale. perhaps stepinac [removed] might have
    interest? i no longer have any contacts at the school to assist in this,
    unfortunately.

    jww

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:20:08 -0500
    From: skallisjr@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Listening Habits
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    When I was listening to OTR back in the OTs, our family used to listen to
    the radio while doing other things such as reading, assembling jigsaw
    puzzles, and doing crossword puzzled.  I recall listening to Nick Carter,
    Master Detective, while playing with my electric trains.  I recall
    listening to Inner sanctum Mysteries in bed while pretending to be
    asleep.  I remember listening to Buck Rogers in a darkened bedroom while
    looking at my Buck Rogers Ring of Saturn luminescing mysteriously.  The
    only radio show I paid full attention to was Captain Midnight, of course,
    where I usually sat at my desk in the bedroom, pencil and paper out,
    staring (or at least regarding) the latest Code-O-Graph, even when there
    was no message promised at the end of the program, just in case something
    was transmitted within the episode.

    Today, when I listen to OTR recordings, I usually use a Rio Volt MP3
    player and headphones.  I may read a book while listening,

    I picked up a gadget that plugs into the headphone plug of a player, and
    converts the audio to an FM signal that can be picked up to 25 feet away.
     I may listen to shows that way (I saw these on sale at the local
    Walgreens for around $20).

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:20:41 -0500
    From: Eric Cooper <ercjncpr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fulton Lewis Jr on CBSRMT??

    A minor point,peharps, but Ted Kneebone in discussing recordings of
    shows that might have included historical news or other material, said
    the following:

>     Another CBSRMT program has the daughter of Fulton Lewis, Jr. playing
>     Christmas music on the organ as part of his news and commentary

    Of course the station carrying the show would have had to have been a
    Mutual outlet, since that was Mr Lewis' network
    Unfortunately Fulton Lewis Jr was dead by the time of the Mystery
    Theater and I do not believe that his son was still doing radio work

    Eric Cooper
    Lake Forest, CA

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:21:18 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Themes and stuff with OTR

    Trina wrote about her special projects of grouping OTR shows around themes,
    special days, etc.  While I was still teaching at the SD School for the
    Blind, I had planned on doing the same kind of thing for birthdays.  My plan
    was to take their birth day and month, not the year.  Most of them had been
    born in the early and mid-1980s, so they had never heard the programs I was
    playing in class.

    The "best-laid plans" went by and I didn't get the project done.  Another
    one (maybe someone has already done this) is choosing a year and a week.
    Then find out what shows were on the air during that time.  Put together a
    morning, afternoon, and evening of programs, complete with commercials and
    station IDs.  Sounds like an impossible task, but by choosing programs that
    are available, I think something like this could be done.  Maybe it's
    already being done.

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD  57401

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:22:17 -0500
    From: LBohall@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Listening to Commercials
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    In a message dated 1/16/2005 10:57:13 AM Central Standard Time, Bob Cockrum
    writes:

>     And I listen to it all ... keeping an ear out for the acting  [removed]
>     I enjoy the commercials.

    I [removed] love to listen to the old commercials. It's part of the appeal
    of shows like Fibber McGee and Molly--the way they wove the commercials right
    into the scripts was outstanding. I am always disappointed when I get a "new"
    set of shows and find that the commercials have been edited out.

    Larry

    My new novel, Martyr's  Cry: a mystery for hopeless romantics, is  available
    now! Go to _[removed]_
    ([removed])   for more [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:22:50 -0500
    From: "Marty" <martyd@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Listening to OTR in Work??
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    OK, most of us can't afford such "luxuries" as listening to OTR at work.  My
    employer doesn't take too kindly to us listening to much at work.  Yes, I do
    have a desk job.

    My question:  What kinds of jobs do you have that allow you to listen to OTR
    at work?  Outside of being a driver of some sort where you are driving in a
    vehicle, what other employers let you listen to OTR on your job?

    Thanks!

    Marty

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:37:45 -0500
    From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  What is the preferred device for carrying MP3
     otr around?

    Please forgive this slightly off-topic question, but
    I am going on a trip and have lots of MP3 and AIFF
    files of old-time radio shows.  I have a Palm PDA and
    was going to use the adapter to convert that to an MP3
    player but I need to use an SD card or Multimedia Card
    so I am limited by the size (and cost) of the
    expansion card.  I have iTunes on my PowerMac and tons
    of files but it is not connected to the internet.  The
     eMac is and so I could use an iPod, but I saw a RIO 5
    gig MP3 player for $200.  Now I know it is just as
    easy to use another brand as opposed to an iPod but
    isn't it easier to use an iPod with the Mac,
    especially with iTunes and the fact that there is the
    special iPod software (doesn't this make converting or
    transferring easier?)  Otherwise I would have to
    transfer the AIFF files to MP3; am I correct in
    assuming that the iPod software partially automates
    this for you?  I know iPods are generally more
    expensive than the other devices you can buy but not
    sure if the non-iPod devices can be lumped into one
    group.  There are tons of devices out there, such as
    the iRiver, etc.
    I know the bigger the drive or card the better,
    because you would not have to re-load or delete as
    often (or seldom if at all).   Andy

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:38:27 -0500
    From: ilamfan@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
    Subject:  Listening Habits
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    On my OTR listening habits:

         I typically listen during my drive time to and from work (usually just
    enough for a single helf hour show), and ALWAYS during any long trips
    (vacations, etc).  I must admit that I will sometimes make people listen to a
    show or two if we are traveling together in the car, as they have no choice
    about leaving at all - hey, sometimes people need to be gently pushed into
    listening if it's something that they might not do on their own!  Usually, I
    find that they don't mind at all, and often they ask if they can get a few
    shows to listen to on their own later.  Mission accomplished!
         Of course, I prefer to hear all of the ads and newsbreaks and credits,
    it all really adds to the sense of "time travel" that I get while
    [removed] I will sometimes trim the 3 minutes of music that
    bookends a lot of 1930's shows (Fu Manchu, Ghost Corps).  Cutting 6 minutes
    of music out of a 15 minute series makes listening to the entire run a lot
    more smooth.  These trimmed shows are only for my own listening pleasure, and
    never get traded out into the OTR pool.

    Stephen Jansen
    --
    Old Time Radio never dies - it
    just changes formats!

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:35:59 -0500
    From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: OTR Listening Habits

    My wife and I listen in bed at bedtime.  Unfortunately this leads to lots of
    mornings where we say
    "I fell asleep!  Did you hear how it ended?"  Last night that happened with
    Suspense "Door of
    Gold".   We'll have to listen to that one again to find out how they got out!

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:36:26 -0500
    From: "From Mike" <zines50@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  listening habits

    Further to the topic of how we like to hear our OTR recordings, I often
    listen for half an hour before I go to sleep, but lately I've changed the
    programs I put on.

    I used to alternate between comedy and music, then for a while I tried drama
    but that didn't work out.   If it was a detective story, I sometimes went to
    sleep before I found out who dun it.   If it was a science fiction story
    like Tom Corbett Space Cadet my concentration wasn't high enough to follow
    the details of the plot, so at the end of the story I'd be asking myself
    "How did they get out of the ice cave on Pluto?  I'll have to play it
    again."

    So I've gone back to music.   30 minutes of Bing Crosby or Dinah Shore
    leaves me pleasantly relaxed and ready to put out the light.

    Re my comment about Jim Harmon's book THE GREAT RADIO HEROES, I was looking
    at my copy and noticed that the original Ace Books edition (#A-27) sold for
    75 cents.    Now that's [removed] !

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:36:50 -0500
    From: Chargous@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jungle Jim question

    Hi,

    Per some of the wartime ones, (1942-3), there's some episodes listed on
    Goldin's page that I haven't been able to find anywhere.  Are some of the
    ones like the one where they're trapped in the bowling alley by Nazis
    available?  And how did the Jungle Jims get so misdated in the first place-
    according to Goldin the ones listed as 1947 are really 1944?  Are his
    renumberings correct?  Any info would be greatly apreciated.

    TC

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:40:11 -0500
    From: StuartLubin@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Linda Kaye Henning

    Dixon Hayes inquired about Linda Kaye Henning.  You are correct.  Linda
    not only does new radio drama in Los Angeles, but she is still a very
    charming, attractive and talented performer.

    Linda performs regularly on one of the most prestigious radio drama
    groups, the California Artists Radio Theatre (CART). CART was founded by
    one of the greatest radio performers, Peggy Webber. I am happy to report
    that both Peggy and Linda are alive and well and still putting on
    fantastic productions.

    I do attend most of CART's performances and have spoken to both ladies
    often.  As an amateur radio actor, I was asked a few years ago to take a
    minor role in a Lux Radio Theatre recreation of "The Jazz Singer",
    sponsored by the broadcast engineers' society.  To my great delight, it
    put me on the same stage as Peggy Webber, Linda Kaye Henning, and Larry
    Dobkin, who passed away two weeks later. What an experience for me to
    have worked with these legends, as well as Herb Ellis, who directed!

    Not being a television fan, I have no television reference books in the
    house, but I believe that Linda also had a famous father: Paul Henning,
    who created (?) "The Beverly Hillbillies".  This was the same Paul
    Henning who was one of the writers in radio for Rudy Vallee.

    Stuart Lubin

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:09:39 -0500
    From: Mike Thompson <mthomp86@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Listening Habits

>     I wonder how many list members do as I often like to
>     do; queue up enough of
>     one show to play throughout the night (or whenever
>     it's sleepytime down
>     south) and let them all play through while drifting
>     off to Dreamland -- and
>     at any point when consciousness tries to drift its
>     otherwise unwelcome way
>     back in.

    That's actually how I most often listen to OTR, and,
    not coincidentally, is why I try to get as much OTR on
    audio tape as I can. At the end of a long day, when I
    need to get to empty my head and get to sleep, I just
    plug a tape in my Walkman, put the headphones in, and
    listen to as much OTR as I can before I fall asleep.
    However, if I feel myself drifting off, I try to shut
    off the tape, to save battery life and wear and tear
    on the cassette, as opposed to just letting it play
    all night.

    Mike

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:11:40 -0500
    From: "James Yellen" <clifengr3@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  "Dumb" songs

    The recent thread on songs with silly lyrics has evolved into a discussion
    of "dumb" songs.
    How about THE THING by my favorite OTR personality, Phil Harris? Remember
    that one? I know that he performed it at least once on the Phil Harris/Alice
    Faye show, and I seem to remember that it was after the Rexall years, when
    they were sponsered by RCA. I believe I also remember them joking about the
    money he was making off of it. I guess it went to the top of the charts.

    My brother had a copy of that song (78 rpm disc of course) and played it
    over and over. It really vexed me as a 6 year old that no one could tell me
    what THE THING was!

    Jim Yellen

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