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Date: 2/13/2008 4:18 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2008 : Issue 41
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Memorial For Bill Idelson             [ Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@sbcgl ]
      Duffy's Tavern, Archie speakin'...    [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
      Sherlock Holmes on AFRS               [ Campbell Connell <rcconnell@[removed] ]
      Hal Peary and the Gildersleeve laugh  [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
      The Ballot Is in the Mail!            [ crow8164@[removed] (Dennis Crow) ]
      RE: Andy Devine                       [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      RE: Radio -- Tool of the Devil        [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      Tool of the Devil                     [ mchone@[removed] ]
      Radio static                          [ mchone@[removed] ]
      Re: Ubangi women                      [ FabFicBks@[removed] ]
      cheloni program - interesting little  [ "joe@[removed]" <jsalerno@earthli ]
      Multi recording                       [ Ken Greenwald <kgradio@[removed]; ]
      2-13 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:52:17 -0500
    From: Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@[removed];
    To: Time Radio Digest Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Memorial For Bill Idelson

    For those in the Southern California area: A
    celebration of life for actor, writer and producer
    Bill Idelson, who died December 31, 2007 at the age of
    88, will be held at 7:30 [removed], Thursday, February
    21st, at the Writers Guild Theater, 135 South Doheny
    Drive, Beverly Hills. Bill Idelson played the part of
    Rush on Vic and Sade.

    Stuart

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:11:29 -0500
    From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Duffy's Tavern, Archie speakin'...

    Folks;

       Received this request for info on the website; please copy the list on any
    responses.

    --- begin forwarded text

    From: [removed] Bookhagen <JohnGunnPI@[removed];

    To Whom it May Concern:
     I've been searching and asking people who've been fans of a show and yet no
    one has the answer to my question. My question is, Archie from Duffy's
    Tavern; what is his last name? I'm sure it has been mentioned on a couple of
    shows, but no one I know, knows the answer. Hope you can help; thanks.

    --- end forwarded text

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:17:42 -0500
    From: Campbell Connell <rcconnell@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sherlock Holmes on AFRS
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html

       Hello:

       I love the Rathbone-Bruce Sherlock Holmes radio shows.  The shows from
       1945 and 1946 generally begin with a message that they are broadcast
       to our soldiers overseas via shortwave and "worldwide via the
       facilities of the Armed Forces Radio Service."  I would think that the
       way the shows were broadcast on the AFRS was via transcriptions.  My
       question is, does anyone know whether it is possible that the
       government still possesses copies of the old transcriptions that are
       sitting in a government warehouse somewhere?  If so, they might have
       lost Sherlock Holmes and or other old radio shows.  Has anyone ever
       tried a freedom of information act request?

       Thanks!

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:18:13 -0500
    From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Hal Peary and the Gildersleeve laugh

    Hal Peary used the Gildersleeve laugh when he did a TV
    commercial for Detroit-based Faygo pop in the 1970s.
    He led a group of people on a boat in singing what's
    become known as the Faygo Boat Song (I don't know if
    that's the actual title, however; it may be). Some
    people believe the boat is one of the two that
    traveled to Bob-Lo Island, but it's too small to be
    either.

    Anyway, the commercial opens with Peary laughing the
    Gildersleeve laugh.

    Rick

    [removed] I'm writing this on Feb. 12. Happy two days
    before Jack Benny's birthday, and that other, lesser,
    holiday.

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:18:38 -0500
    From: crow8164@[removed] (Dennis Crow)
    To: [removed]@[removed] (Old Time Radio Digest)
    Subject:  The Ballot Is in the Mail!

    Many of us belong to OTR clubs.  I enjoy the friendships, newsletters,
    collections, and great bargains. Usually, members receive annual ballots for
    board of director elections.  If you are like me and don't know the
    candidates, or don't live anywhere near where the clubs originate, you toss
    the ballots out.

    That would be a mistake, however,  if you are a current  member of SPERDVAC.
    Take my word for it ---  within the candidate statements this time is the
    "stuff" of high drama:  embarrassing luncheons, imperiled cargo, and a
    bloodless coup. There is passion, fury, and spiraling conflict!

    A ballot has never been so entertaining. Open the mail.  You'll see.

    With tongue "firmly" in cheek,

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:13:26 -0500
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Andy Devine

    As anyone from Kingman, AZ. Would know, Andy's father once managed the best
    (only) hotel in town for many years and the main street is Andy Devine Blvd.
    In addition to his radio and TV work, Andy was in a number of movies, often
    as the same comic sidekick that he played on "Wild Bill Hickock." His roles
    took on a somewhat more serious tone when he worked as part of John Ford's
    stock company in movies such as "Stagecoach" and "The Man Who Shot Liberty
    Valence." In general, he was one of the most capable and dependable character
    actors in Hollywood throughout his career.

    Thanx,
    [removed]

    * Kiss a malamute today *
    *Today's Lucky Number is 343	*

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:13:02 -0500
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Radio -- Tool of the Devil

    There was more going on in the teens and twenties than some religious groups
    labeling radio as a tool of the devil. The fact is, many people didn't know
    what radio was, or what to make of it. This was reflected in some potboilers
    written for pulp magazines and movies where radio was used to kill people --
    something about the waves being lethal. Also, there were quite a few quacks
    prosecuted for using radio waves to cure everything from hangnails to heart
    attacks -- and that doesn't even begin to consider the quacks who got away
    with it. Today, if someone completes the human genome project, where all the
    genes in the human body have been sorted out and catalogued, many of us were
    aware of the project from the time it started, and anyone and everyone with a
    radio or TV set knew that the job has been completed within a day. Also, most
    of us are at least minimally sophisticated in the scientific sense, [removed],
    very few could hear or see a news blurb about the genome project without
    knowing that it's the key to unlocking most of the secrets about how we
    inherit various traits from our ancestors. We need know nothing about
    genetics to know what a 'gene' does.

    Compare that to the world of a hundred or so years ago. No TV and no radio.
    The only way to learn anything was to read about it or hear it from someone
    else who had read about it. News was disseminated much more slowly, and since
    much more of America was rural than it is today, many people received their
    news by hearsay, often filtered through a chain of people, finally arriving
    distorted. It shouldn't be surprising, then, that there would be something
    mysterious about sending talk and music through the air. Words like
    'magnetic' and 'electromagnetic' and 'ether' were thrown around and misused
    to heighten that air of mystery. Perhaps those people who walked around
    talking to themselves (yes, they had them a hundred years ago, just as we
    have them today) were hearing those mysterious signals without needing to
    have a radio receiver, somehow giving them power over the rest of us.
    Finally, consider the visual aspect of looking inside a radio transmitter or
    receiver. Glowing tubes and huge coils of tubing, with all sorts of little
    parts soldered together, and this thing talks to us. That can be pretty
    scary. In relation to so called 'fundamentalist' churches, it seems to me
    that such a place is just where a scared citizen would go to help resolve
    one's fears. There, people with a common fear can relate to each other and
    relieve their tension by seeing that they are not suffering alone. To put it
    another way, it wasn't the churches that were labeling radio a tool of the
    devil, but the individual members of many churches who were able to alleviate
    their fears by congregating in the one place that should be a sanctuary from
    such evils, and their church leadership spoke for them. Thus it's the
    churches that get the blame for annunciating what was really a widely shared
    fear.

    Thanx,
    [removed]

    * Kiss a malamute today *
    *Today's Lucky Number is 344	*

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:15:21 -0500
    From: mchone@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Tool of the Devil

    I have to agree with Bryan who wrote in issue #38
    (the statement)"regarding religious fundamentalists is  overly simplistic and
    simplicity never makes for an accurate historical account."  I might also add that
    attitudes and actions from the past should not be judged by the PC and
    scientifically advanced standards of today.
    People in parts of the rural Bible belt believed (or were taught) that lots of
    things were tools of the devil.  A large part of their lives were centered on The
    Church and Church sponsored (and approved) social [removed] doesn't make
    them bad people, does it?  My Grandfather bought a small town movie theater in the
    late '20s.  He operated it at a profit until the preachers and elders told him that
    moving pictures were the work of the devil.  He sold the movie house and opened a
    pool room instead which was perfectly alright.  Then and there, it was also a sin
    to sing anything except religious songs.
    If the 'easily offended' crowd were to view things historical in a historical
    context perhaps they would not be so offended.

    Roby McHone
    Fairbanks, Alaska

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:15:18 -0500
    From: mchone@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio static

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr. wrote:

>     Later on, I understand that the necessary resistance was built into the
>     wires, so the problem went away.

    I vaguely remember that people would put balled-up pieces of tin foil inside their
    hubcaps to lessen the radio static.  Wonder if it worked.

    Roby McHone
    fifty-below land

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:16:14 -0500
    From: FabFicBks@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Ubangi women

    Hi all;
        This is a bit off subject, however to all the  commenters who mention the
    Ubangi women using large lip plates---you have  misread the situation; this
    practice was not done to make the women  attractive .  It was done to create
    exactly the opposite effect, to make  them UNATTRACTIVE, especially to Arab
    slave dealers, and to a lesser extent to  males of rival tribes who might
    want to
    carry off Ubangi women as spoils of  war.  In private life, inside their huts,
    the women took those plates out  of their lips.  For a great many years no
    photos of a Ubangi women without  her lip plates was ever taken.  Arab slavers
    were a very real problem even  up thru the first third of the 20th century and
    this practice did provide some  protection from their women being taken into
    captivity.  When Arab slavers  struck a Ubangi village they took away all the
    males and killed the women.
        You can check these facts with any decent  anthropology reference book or
    history of Africa thru the Colonial era.

    ---Bob Jennings

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:19:51 -0500
    From: "joe@[removed]" <jsalerno@[removed];
    To: OTR List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  cheloni program - interesting little article

    [removed]

    ...about an early 1933 jazz radio program with Eddie South, who recorded
    before Joe Venuti (as early as 1923 according to this author)

    I never heard of Cheloni and I have no affiliation with the producers of
    the CDs. And all those other usual [removed]

    joe salerno

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:30:05 -0500
    From: Ken Greenwald <kgradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Multi recording

    Craig W wrote this sentence as part of his email on The Lutheran Hour:

>     It's present, half-hour, "multi-transcription" (pieces recorded at different
>     times) format is distinct from it's early, one-hour, live production.

    This reminded me about what I consider the penultimate multi recording
    production for a radio show. And I don't mean that in a positive way!
    Back in the 70s there was a science fiction radio series called "ALIEN WORLDS."
    It was recorded in a studio at Beverly Blvd. and Robertson Blvd. I can't
    remember the name of the company.
    This series of shows was recorded on 2 inch tape, 24 tracks at 15 ips.
    What was so awful about the recording of this show was how they did it.
    Lureen Tuttle and Hans Conreid appeared on an episode. Lureen told me that
    she entered the studio and was told to do her lines. She asked where the
    other actors were, and was told they would be coming in at a different time
    to record.
    She was astonished at that. She asked how she could possibly get the rhythm
    and emotional tone of the role if she could not interact with the other
    actors. She was told not to worry about it, that it would all be taken care
    of in post.
    To Lureen, as well as Hans Conreid, it was terrible. No way to interact with
    the other actors.
    In post, the other actors/actresses voices were added at the right points in
    the story.
    Though the stereo effects were wonderful (rocket blasts, alien creature
    noises, etc.), the acting lacked that needed spark.

    I know other radio shows, such as The Lutheran Hour use mutli-tracking, but
    not the way Alien Worlds did it!
    So much for "live" radio and so much for getting the best performances from
    the wonderful voices of Tuttle and Conreid!

    Ken Greenwald

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    Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:50:02 -0500
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  2-13 births/deaths

    February 13th births

    Happy Birthday Fumiko

    02-13-1877 - Sidney Smith - d. 10-20-1935
    comic strip writer: "The Gumps" based on his comic strip
    02-13-1900 - Wingy Manone - New Orleans, LA - d. 7-9-1982
    orchestra leader: "Saturday Night Swing Club"; "Young Man with a Band"
    02-13-1904 - Erwin D. Canham - Auburn, ME - d. 1-3-1982
    news commentator: "Christian Science Monitor Views the News"
    02-13-1905 - Fred Jeske - Ferguson, MO - d. 11-24-1957
    actor: Uncle Remus "Uncle Remus"
    02-13-1908 - Lennie Hayton - NYC - d. 4-24-1971
    conductor: "Your Hit Parade"; "Ipana Troubadors"
    02-13-1908 - Pauline Frederick - Gallitzin, PA - d. 5-9-1990
    newscaster: "News of Tomorrow"; "Pauline Frederick News"; "Second
    Sunday"
    02-13-1912 - Art Rollini - d. 12-31-1993
    saxophone: (The Benny Goodman Orchestra) "Let's Dance"
    02-13-1912 - Margaretta Scott - London, England - d. 4-15-2005
    actor: "The Merchant of Venice"
    02-13-1913 - Frank Phares - d. 12-24-1968
    writer: "This Is Your FBI"
    02-13-1915 - Lyle Bettger - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-24-2003
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Family Theatre"
    02-13-1916 - Albert Harris - London, England - d. 1-14-2005
    conductor, composer: "Four-Star Playhouse"; "NBC University Theatre"
    02-13-1916 - James Griffith - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-17-1993
    actor: "Gunsmoke"
    02-13-1916 - Ruth Batcheller - d. 7-15-1990
    woman's program on WACE Massachusetts
    02-13-1917 - Clara Antonetti - d. 10-27-1995
    broadcaster on WTSA Brattleboro, Vermont
    02-13-1919 - Joan Edwards - NYC - d. 8-27-1981
    singer: "Chesterfield Presents"; "Your Hit Parade"
    02-13-1919 - "Tennessee" Ernie Ford - Bristol, TN - d. 10-17-1991
    singer: "Tennessee Ernie Ford Show"
    02-13-1920 - Eileen Farrell - Willimantic, CT - d. 3-23-2002
    singer: "Eileen Farrell Sings"; "Prudential Family Hour"
    02-13-1923 - Gene Ames - Malden, MA - d. 4-26-1997
    singer,: (Ames Brothers) "Sing It Again"; "Robert Q. Lewis Show"
    02-13-1930 - Frank Buxton - Wellesley, MA
    author: "Golden Age of Radio"; "KIRO Mystery Playhouse"
    02-13-1932 - Susan Oliver - NYC - d. 5-10-1990
    actor: "Zero Hour"
    02-13-1933 - Kim Novak - Chicago, IL
    actor: "Bud's Bandwagon"

    February 13th deaths

    04-03-1918 - Sixten Ehrling - Malmo Skane Ian, Sweden - d. 2-13-2005
    conductor: "Metropolitan Opera"
    04-12-1898 - Lily Pons - Draguignan, France - d. 2-13-1976
    singer: "Telephone Hour"; "Voice of Firestone"
    05-09-1912 - George T. Simon - NYC - d. 2-13-2001
    jazz critic
    05-29-1914 - Stacy Keach, Sr. - Milwaukee, WI - d. 2-13-2003
    producer-director: "Tales of the Texas Rangers"
    06-04-1900 - Dan Golenpaul - NYC - d. 2-13-1974
    producer: "Information, Please"
    06-23-1889 - Katejan Attl - d. 2-13-1976
    harpist: KPO, San Francisco, California
    07-15-1910 - Ken Lynch - Cleveland, OH - d. 2-13-1990
    actor: Lt. Matt King "Twenty-First Precinct"; Christopher Gard "Cafe
    Istanbul"
    08-22-1917 - Joe Connelly - NYC - d. 2-13-2003
    writer: "Harry Von Zell Show"; "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Frank Morgan Show"
    09-01-1886 - Regina Wallace - Trenton, NJ - d. 2-13-1978
    actor: Alice Aldrich "Aldrich Family"
    10-09-1911 - Michael Allman - Cincinnati, OH - d. 2-13-1989
    arranger for such bands as Mitchell Ayres, Freddy Martin and Harry James
    10-29-1908 - Robert K. Adams - d. 2-13-1981
    actor: "Dr. Susan"; Hilltop House"; Your Family and Mine"
    11-04-1919 - Martin Balsam - NYC - d. 2-13-1996
    actor: "Cloak and Dagger"
    12-24-1910 - John Bagni - NYC - d. 2-13-1954
    writer: Suspense"; "Family Theatre"; "Escape"
    12-25-1908 - Helen Twelvetrees - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-13-1958
    actor: "The Campbell Playhouse"
    12-30-1903 - Owen Crump - d. 2-13-1998
    producer: " The Grouch Club"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:12:01 -0500
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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