Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #323
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/25/2003 10:19 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 323
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Sayings Redux                         [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
  OTR Sayings                           [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
  Radio sayings                         [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Old sayings                           [ "Robert W. Paine" <macandrew@prodig ]
  Re: I Love a Mystery/Inner Sanctum b  [ rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed] ]
  WAMU and the big broadcast            [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  Re: Shadow logs                       [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
  Lesley Woods                          [ dltnkt@[removed] (Dennis/Nancy Town ]
  Abbott and Costello skit              [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
  Sayings and expressions               [ art-funk@[removed] ]
  OTR sayings                           [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
  Two Questions                         [ dltnkt@[removed] (Dennis/Nancy Town ]
  Brad Ashton                           [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  old time radio books                  [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
  Burke & Hare / Crime Classics trivia  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  The search for Dr. Jekyll             [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Query about a commercial              [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:59:08 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sayings Redux

In providing old sayings from OTR that passed, albeit briefly, into the
standard speech, Kenneth Clarke introduces,

"The story you are about to see is [removed]"

Well, the only thing _I_ ever saw with an OTR show was speaker grille
cloth. :-)

How about,

"My head is made up."

"Welcome to the Inner Sanctum."

"Snap your magic twanger, [removed]"

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:28:20 -0400
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR  Sayings

How [removed]
Aren't we devils?

What a revoltin' development this is!

The Shadow knows!

I dood it!

George Aust

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:51:28 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio sayings

Does this count?  "I'm thinking it over!"  Kurt

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:52:00 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

 From Those Were The Days --

1949 - NBC debuted Father Knows Best. The Thursday night program aired
for five years. Robert Young played the role of Jim Anderson, the
ever-patient father. The rest of the family included wife Margaret, son
Bud and lovely daughters Betty (the eldest) and Kathy. The family lived
on Maple Street in Springfield.

Joe

--
Visit my homepage:  [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:51:52 -0400
From: "Robert W. Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Old sayings

"Who's Yehoodi?" (my mother used this a lot on me in the 50's)

"YE-EEESSSS?"  (a guy I worked with at a supermarket used this line)

"You wouldn't say that if my writers were here!"
   (I don't know if this was commonly used. I toss it out when someone comes
up           with a line and I don't have a good comeback)

"That's a joke, son!" (when someone doesn't get my joke)

"Wanna buy a duck?"

"Vas you there, Sharlie?"

"You NA-ASTY man!"

A former employer of mine liked to quote Whitey Ford, the Duke of Paducah -
"I'm goin' back to the wagon, boys - these shoes are killin' me."

"We're a little late, so good night, folks."

  Macandrew

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:57:59 -0400
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: I Love a Mystery/Inner Sanctum book

I've been excited about Martin's book on the Morse adventure shows since I
first heard that research was being done for such a project.  Now that it's
done, I can't wait to read it.

And yes, the Inner Sanctum book is extremely [removed] great example of how
researching a show should be done.  For those of you who don't have it (or
who do) I've just gotten word that a glowing review (written by Yours Truly)
will appear in the October issue of Sperdvac's Radiogram.  Check it
[removed] place an order with Martin for the Inner Sanctum book, and the
ILAM book while you're at it!

rodney.

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:16:17 -0400
From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WAMU and the big broadcast

In #320, Art Chimes wrote:

WAMU's Sunday evening show, The Big Broadcast, is the
station's longest-running show. It's been on the air in
various formats since 1964, originally hosted by the
late John Hickman. It recent years the host has been Ed
Walker who, along with Willard Scott, created the Joy
Boys.

I grew up in the DC area, and have listened to the Big Broadcast my whole
life.  When I left DC, first for college and then for work, one of the things
I missed most was The Big Broadcast.  It just wasn't Sunday night without it.
All of that changed when they started web-casting.  Now, not only can I
listen again on Sunday nights, but if I have to miss it, they archive the
show for a week so I can listen at a different time.  I've even purchased
wireless speakers and hooked the transmitter up to my computer.  Now I hear
the show all through my apartment, not just in the library.

The big broadcast is a great show, and I encourage all of you to give it a
listen (and perhaps become a contributing member like myself).  Visit
[removed].

-chris holm

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:32:35 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Shadow logs

In a message dated 8/24/03 10:16:06 PM, welsa@[removed] writes:

I'm looking for a fairly comprehensive log of Shadow shows.  All I could
find in an internet search was the Orson Welles shows.  Any links anyone can
direct me to?  Thanks.

***My revised, updated and anotated SHADOW log, with season-by-season cast
listings and around a hundred additional story titles (mostly from the early
1930s Frank Readick era), will debut at this year's FOTR Convention.  Compiled
over the years with the help of a number of OTR researchers including Karl
Schadow, Michael Ogden and the late Ray Stanich, it goes far, far beyond what
was
included in my earlier log (published in 1979 in THE SHADOW SCRAPBOOK).
--Anthony Tollin

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:32:45 -0400
From: dltnkt@[removed] (Dennis/Nancy Townsend)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Lesley Woods

According to the IMDB Lesley Woods died on August 2nd.

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:38:53 -0400
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Abbott and Costello skit

          I think almost everyone interested in OTR recalls the
famous "Who's On First" routine performed by  Abbott and
Costello.  They did several similar routines using this type
of banter.  One I happened to hear recently took place at a
racetrack.  I believe Lou was considering buying (betting on?)
a horse.  I don't remember it all, but some of the points
raised in it were whether the horse was a 'mudder' and feeding
the horse some 'fodder'.

          Does anyone know the skit I mean?  Better yet, do they
know where I can find a tape of it?

Sincerely,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:03:26 -0400
From: art-funk@[removed]
To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Sayings and expressions

Sez Hal Stone:

How about coming up with expressions made famous by OTR personalities,
that found their way into conversations, (as rejoinders, put-downs, etc,)
and became common usage in
this country back in the glory [removed];<

I don't know if it fits the category but I can't encounter a particular name
without hearing Hal Peary in my head:  "Leeeeeeeee-roooooooy!

>From the same show there's "Well, now I wouldn't say that."

And before Gildersleeve spun off there was:  "You're a haaaarrrrddd man,
McGee!"

Regards to all,

Art Funk
Art's Militaria
[removed]

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:17:32 -0400
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR sayings

          I just heard one of my neighbors use another OTR
related saying:

"You're a hard man, McGee!"

"The weed of crime bears bitter [removed]"

          An author I know often refers to her office as

"Fibber McGee's closet"

Sincerely,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:47:38 -0400
From: dltnkt@[removed] (Dennis/Nancy Townsend)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Two Questions

Another poster noted the recent passing of Lesley Woods. Was she just a
substitute Margot Lane on The Shadow? Does not seem like she was on it
very long?
Also have listened recently to a few of Garry Moore's Daytime show on
CBS of 1949. Any one know how long it was on? Also he featured a female
singer Eileen Wood that I have never heard of was she well known at the
time? Anything else known about her. Thanks in [removed]

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:00:30 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Brad Ashton

Can anyone help Brad?

BRITISH COLLECTOR BRAD ASHTON WANTS  VIDEORECORDINGS OF CURRENT AMERICAN
COMEDY IN EXCHANGE FOR ANY SHOWS PAST OR PRESENT FROM TV IN ENGLAND.    CAN
RECORD
AND PLAY ON AMERICAN [removed] SYSTEM.    PHONE OR FAX 44 208 886 5343 OR
[removed] ashtons@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:39:36 -0400
From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  old time radio books

I've identified a number of markets for  books about old time radio. I
would appreciate hearing from the authors of such books  who would like
to have their books sold via these [removed] me to take on a book, it
must have been reviewed by objective, preferably professional reviewers
([removed] in newspapers, magazines, journals etc.)

Please contact me off-line and if possible, e-mail me copies of one or
two reviews

Howard Blue

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:40:54 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Burke & Hare / Crime Classics trivia

Since the subject of CRIME CLASSICS and Burke and Hare were brought up,
here's an interesting bit of trivia:

Morton Fine and David Friedkin were radio writers who scripted - literally -
hundreds of radio scripts for mystery and horror anthologies.  In the summer
of 1953, CBS Radio featured a program entitled CRIME CLASSICS, featuring
dramatizations based on historical true-life crimes from Jack the Ripper to
Lizzie Borden.  Fine and Friedkin wrote most of the scripts for the series
and on December 2, 1953, an episodes entitled "If a Body Need a Body, Just
Call Burke and Hare" aired with a cast including Jeanette Nolan and Betty
Harford.

Ten years later, Morton Fine and David Friedkin were producing episodes of
television's THE ALFRED HITCHCOCK HOUR and David Friedkin actually directed
a few himself.  Among the Hitchcock Hour TV episodes was the broadcast of
November 23, 1964 entitled "The McGregor Affair" starring Andrew Duggan and
Elsa Lanchester.  The plot was very similar to the CRIME CLASSICS broadcast
described above.  1827, Edinburgh, Scotland.  John McGregor is upset over
his life: that of having to care for his constantly drunk, alcoholic wife
(Lanchester), who spends every cent he makes on whiskey.  To help make ends
meet, he hauls boxes of tanbark to a medical academy operated by Dr. Knox,
where McGregor has heard stories about the school robbing graves to obtain
fresh bodies for medical studies.  Noticing that the latest shipment of
tanbark is much heavier than usual, McGregor pieces one and one together to
discover that he is actually hauling the bodies of murder victims, innocents
killed by a pair of unscrupulous body snatchers.  Learning where the
snatchers live, he decides to get rid of his drunken wife late one night by
getting her intoxicated and dumping the body on the school doorstep - a plan
that works, but one with repercussions when he himself becomes Burke and
Hare's next vicitim.

Now the interesting part of the television broadcast . . . The teleplay was
written for the HITCHCOCK HOUR by Morton Fine and David Friedkin, based on
the short story of the same name by Sidney Rowland, origianally published in
the July 1953 issue of ELLERY QUEEN'S MYSTERY MAGAZINE (and subsequently
reprinted in BUTCHER, BAKER, MURDER-MAKER from Knopf in 1954).  Not only did
Fine and Friedkin rely on their radio scripts from a decade before, but
coincidentally, Betty Harford plays the role of Elsie in the television
version - Harford did star in the CRIME CLASSICS radio broadcast but not in
the same role!

(Info about the HITCHCOCK television series was reprinted from THE ALFRED
HITCHCOCK PRESENTS COMPANION, (c) 2002).

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:40:01 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The search for Dr. Jekyll

The US STEEL HOUR (also known as the THEATER GUILD ON THE AIR presented a
broadcast of Robert L. Stevenson's "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" on November 19,
1950 with Frederic March and Barbara Bel Geddes.  March happened to be
reprising the same starring role he won critical acclaim for in the 1932
movie of the same name - eighteen years earlier!

It is very important for a friend of mine author/researcher that he acquire
a copy of the recording before the 5th of September.  Does anyone have a
copy of the recording they can sent out (preferrably on CD format)?  Anyone
who has a copy please contact me off list and I will give you my friend's
mailing address.

Martin Grams, Jr.
mmargrajr@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:43:42 -0400
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Query about a commercial

    I recall often hearing a spot commercial on the radio either late in the
OTR era or possibly during the early post-OTR era.  It went very roughly
like this:

Young woman (with a soft, sweet voice) to man:  "That's tomato juice you're
drinking."
Man:                 "No, it's V-8 juice."
Young woman:  "It sure looks like tomato juice."
Man:                 "No, it's V-8 juice."
Young woman:  "It sure smells like tomato juice."
Man:                 "No, it's V-8 juice. Here, drink some of it."
Young woman:  "OK, I think I will."
She drinks, then:
Young woman (in a changed, very deep, satisfied voice):  "WOW!!  IT SURE
DON'T  *T A S T E*  LIKE TOMATO JUICE!!"

   So, my questions:
What was the exact (or near-exact) wording of that commercial?
When was it first heard on the airwaves?
Are there any recordings of it available?

   (Of course there might've been variations of the commercial's wording.
I've contacted the V-8 juice company HQ but they had no pertinent info.
Also, I realize that my memory may be playing tricks on me.)

   Thanks,
  -- Phil C.

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