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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 90
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Correll and Gosden [ Mdlang11@[removed] ]
The Lone Ranger [ "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed]; ]
PRF episode [ vigor16@[removed] ]
Re: William Shatner on the radio [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
Time Machine [ "Arthur Lortie" <alortie@[removed]; ]
First radio serial [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
The Shadow's Ring [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
"Rhubarb" [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
Ad Libs [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
Jack Benny-1953 [ eddie ginsburg <eddieg100@[removed] ]
many thanks [ "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
Cresta Blanca et al [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
2 free Cd-Rs [ Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu ]
John F Kennedy Assassination Coverag [ Chad Palmer <chadpalmer@[removed]; ]
Re: [removed] [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
Whistler episodes with Jane Adams [ Weisberg Mitchell D DLVA <WeisbergM ]
The Johnson Family [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
Re: Silly Boy [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:41:38 -0500
From: Mdlang11@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Correll and Gosden
I was horrified to notice that I misidentified the creators of Amos & Andy as
Freeman and Gosden instead of Correll and Gosden. It must have been some
kind of cosmic payback for making a dumb joke about somebody's earlier typos.
My apologies to all those who actually know something about old time radio.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:55:22 -0500
From: "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Lone Ranger
Does anyone know where I can read the first
story of "The Lone Ranger", in other words the
radio script---Is there a published version book---
I have searched a great deal --I am not interested in the
radio program cassette, but the story to read---I did
find the interesting bit below---Thanxxxxxxx
Edward in Philadelphia--erosenstein@[removed]
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THE LONE RANGER
[removed] Western
The Lone Ranger originated on WXYZ radio in Detroit in 1933. Created by
George W. Trendle and written by Fran Striker, the show became so popular it
was one of the reasons why several stations linked together to share
programming on what became the Mutual Broadcasting System. Aimed primarily
at the children's audience, The Lone Ranger made a successful transition to
ABC televi-sion in 1949. Several characteristics were unique and central to
the premise of this western, and the initial episode which explained the
legend was occasionally repeated so young viewers would under-stand how the
hero gained his name and why he wore a mask. The Lone Ranger was one of six
Texas Rangers who were ambushed while chasing a gang of outlaws led by Butch
Cavendish. After the battle, one "lone ranger" survived, and was discovered
by Tonto, a Native American who recognized the survi-vor as John Reid, the
man who had saved his life earlier. Tonto thereafter referred to the ranger
as "kemo sabe," which is trans-lated as "trusty scout." After Tonto helped
him regain his strength, the ranger vowed to hide his identity from
Cavendish and to dedicate his life to "making the West a decent place to
live." He and Tonto dug an extra grave to fool Cavendish into believing all
six rangers had died, and the ranger donned a mask to protect his identity
as the single surviving ranger. Only Tonto knows who he is ... the Lone
Ranger. After he and Tonto saved a silver-white stallion from being gored by
a buffalo, they nursed the horse back to health and set him free. The horse
followed them and the Lone Ranger decided to adopt him and give him the name
Silver. Shortly thereafter, the Lone Ranger and Tonto encountered a man who,
it turns out, has been set up to take the blame for murders committed by
Cavendish. They estab-lished him as caretaker in an abandoned silver mine,
where he produced silver bullets for the Lone Ranger. Ev-en after the
Cavendish gang was captured, the Lone Ranger decided to keep his identity a
secret. Near the end of this and many future episodes, someone asks about
the identity of the masked man. The typical response: "I don't rightly know
his real name, but I've heard him [removed] the Lone Ranger." The Lone
Ranger exemplified upstanding character and righ-teous purpose. He engaged
in plenty of action, but his silver bullets were symbols of "justice by
law," and were never used to kill. For the children's audience, he
represented clean living and noble effort in the cause of fighting crime.
His values and style, including his polished manners and speech, were
intended to provide a positive role model. The show's stan-dard musical
theme was Rossini's "William Tell Overture," accompa-nied by the Lone Ranger
voicing a hearty "Hi-Ho, Silver, away" as he rode off in a cloud of dust.
Clayton Moore is most closely associated with the TV role, but John Hart
played the Lone Ranger for two seasons. The part of Tonto was played by Jay
Silverheel-s. After the original run of the program from 1949 to 1957, it
was regu-larly shown in reruns until 1961, and later in animat-ed form. The
Lone Ranger has also been the subject of comic books and movies. Both the
original and animated versions of the program have been syndicated. Perhaps
no fictional action hero has become as established in our culture through as
many media forms as the Lone Ranger.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:46:44 -0500
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: PRF episode
Hello all,
I have a question about a People Are Funny program. I have a tape of the
continuing saga of the show making a young lady Cinderella which seemed
to continue for a few weeks. They would tell her of the prizes and fun
she'd have, but something would come up and they would hold it over to
next week. It was a Raleigh cigarettes show, sorry all you non-smokers.
My question is that I have the first two shows. Is the rest of that
cliff hanger available? Deric
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:46:55 -0500
From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: William Shatner on the radio
DeForest Kelly appeared in Suspense August 4, 1957 in "Fleshpeddler".
William Shatner did Rod Serling's Zero Hour for a week on Mutual in 1974.
Shatner is Canadian, so maybe he did some CBC stuff as well?
Eric Cooper
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:48:28 -0500
From: "Arthur Lortie" <alortie@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Time Machine
Can anyone direct me to [or send me] an mp3 of the 1940's radio episode that
adapted Wells' Time Machine?
Thanks in advance
Arthur Lortie
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:48:46 -0500
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: First radio serial
I can't buy Joe Mackey's quote that when Marie, the Little French
Princess debuted in 1933 it was the "first" daytime radio serial. That
honor, well documented by numerous authorities, belongs to Irna Phillips'
Painted Dreams whose inception on Oct., 30, 1930 over WGN was soon warmly
accorded network status.
Actually, there were no less than 13 serials flooding daytime radio by
the close of 1932, the year before Easy Aces, Ma Perkins, The Romance of
Helen Trent and, yes, Marie, the Little French Princess premiered in the
sunshine.
The 13 predecessors included: 1930--Painted Dreams and The Life of Mary
Sothern; 1931--The Gumps, The Life of Irene Castle, Miracles of Magnolia,
The Stolen Husband; 1932--Betty and Bob, Clara Lu 'n' Em, Judy and Jane,
Just Plain Bill, Red Adams, Today's Children, Vic and Sade.
Nearly all of these achieved national exposure. The most durable were Ma
Perkins, The Romance of Helen Trent, Just Plain Bill and Red Adams (which
became Pepper Young's Family), each of which lasted almost to the end of
the golden age (Just Plain Bill, 23 years, the others 27 years).
Jim Cox
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:38:23 -0500
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Shadow's Ring
In a recent message Stephen wrote:
The Carey Salt version of The Shadow's ring is interesting in that it
continued a great tradition. In 1940, Jack Armstrong offered as a
premium, the Dragon's Eye Ring, composed of ivory-white (luminous)
plastic with two crocodilians facing each other, mouths open to frame a
green (plastic) cabochon "stone."
That reminds me that, as a kid, I sent away for and received a "Shadow" ring
that was a white luminous plastic ring ("glows in the dark") on which was set
a dark blue plastic piece, representing a piece of Blue Coal, the program's
sponsor. I had a lot of fun charging up that ring and watching it in the
dark.
But it occurs to me now: What did I send away for that ring? Does anyone
know? Usually I sent 10 cents and a boxtop or a wrapper or a "reasonable
facsimile" or whatever. But I'm sure I didn't get my dad to order a load of
Blue Coal so I could send them a fragment of anthracite. Any ideas?
Spence
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:38:38 -0500
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "Rhubarb"
As to whether actors mumbled the word "rhubarb" in the background to sound
like a group noise, I don't know. But from what I have read and heard, the
sportscaster Red Barber, who called the Brooklyn Dodgers games on radio and
later TV, coined the word "rhubarb" (an on-field argument) along with
"tearing up the pea patch" (a big rally) and "[removed]" (the bases full of
Brooklyns).
Spence
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:39:21 -0500
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ad Libs
Cynthia said:
Try starting with something almost familiar, like one of the Goon
renditions of Robin Hood. They don't stick to the plot (they never do!)
but at least you'll have a little something familiar to hold onto while
all the craziness happens.
That reminds me that, when one of my favorites, Martin and Lewis, were on the
air, either radio or TV, the producers would leave an extra 10 minutes or so
unscripted because they knew that the duo would fill it with ad libs and
improvisations. If they hadn't allowed for that, the show would have run
overtime.
Spence
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:39:16 -0500
From: eddie ginsburg <eddieg100@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny-1953
I just got finished listening to an episode from May.
It is all to apparent to me that Jack waited 2
years-at least too long to end his show.
The enthusiasm is just not there, He and Don Wilson,
especially seem to be just going thru the motions
The episode was still wonderful, thanks to Mr. Kitzel,
the 'singer'..(sounds like she is pinching her
[removed] was she?) and the man who answers everything
'Idunno'
the writing was still sharp, but the main characters
delivery just was not there
comments?
ed
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:53:39 -0500
From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: many thanks
hi to all
i had completely forgotten about the nomination till i read the blurb in
the digest,
thanks to all who recommended me, i really appreciate it and thanks to
patrick picciarelli for the article.
but, my whole collection is based on my friends help, those who transfer
my discs and clean them and put them on cd, who are doing the same
for my reels, i'd be no where without them, love em,
i prefer not to mention their names or i might get them in a jam with
other
interests.
but i will say thanks to steve kelez, and hank hinkle
again thanks, and i do owe a couple of people material, 1 fellow
overseas
so get in touch with your list or lists so we can get even.
ed carr
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:54:49 -0500
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cresta Blanca et al
I recall the Cresta Blanca signature very well. Burst out with it on
occasion, which drives my wife crazy.
This along with "Today is Monday, today is Monday, time for Chiclets, candy
coated gum".
And giving the present time, a la "the correct time is ---------
B-UL-O-V-A, Bulova Watchtime". How many can go through that rapidfire
spelling, as they did hourly on the air?
I seem to recall Roma Wines spelling out
R-O-M-A in a sort of drum beat, very similar to
L-A-V-A. Or am I putting one and one together and coming up with 3?
Memory can play funny tricks, or have all you horse fanciers noticed that?
Happy New Year! Lee Munsick
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:55:26 -0500
From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 2 free Cd-Rs
It's giveaway time! I'll send a CD-R with 50 or so "Halls of Ivy" shows to
the first person who e-mails me at sinatra@[removed] to ask. I'll also
send a CD-R with 95 or so "I Love a Mystery" chapters to the first person who
e-mails me. But I won't send both to the same person, so specify which one
you'd like ... if you're first.
Here's the thing: Although these have been professionally made
(translation: not by me), they are not MP3 files but Real files; that means
they can only be played on the Real Player on your computer and not on a
portable MP3 player. Also, even though they are professionally made, the
sound quality varies, especially on ILAM.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:11:39 -0500
From: Chad Palmer <chadpalmer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: John F Kennedy Assassination Coverage -CBS?
Hi All,
I know this isn't exactly OTR show related, but it's pretty close. I
recently read in an old newsgroup posting that the CBS Radio Coverage of
the Kennedy Assassination has been in circulation for many years now along
with the CBS TV & NBC TV coverage. I've never seen/heard any of this other
than a poor copy of the NBC Coverage. Does anybody out there have the CBS
Radio Coverage I mentioned or know where I could find it? I'm a big
history buff and would love to get ahold of this. You can reply to me
directly or to the group as a whole.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:12:23 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: [removed]
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:03:30 -0500
From: Patrick Picciarelli <condor@[removed];
Yo Patrick! Howya doin?
Enjoyed your post about the "Books'"
As a former New Yorker, and police buff, I eat that stuff up.
My very best friend in the whole world (We went to High School together) was
a NYC Detective (Gold shield), but retired after 16 years because he got too
busy doing TV commercials. (Partly my fault). He came to me in the late 60's
and asked if he could possibly moonlight as an actor. I showed him the
ropes, threw a few "Extra" jobs his way so he could join the Performers
union, and the rest is history. Did you know Bill Lewis? What a Character.
I had some great adventures going out with him and his partner when they
were working the "Safe and Loft Squad".
And I totally agree with your "Dealer" survey. I must admit, I haven't had
dealings with Ed Carr, but Ted Davenport certainly deserves to be a
finalist. (Did anyone vote for Carl Amari?) :)
Will look for your book.
Regards
Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:14:35 -0500
From: Weisberg Mitchell D DLVA <WeisbergMD@[removed];
To: "'OldRadio Mailing Lists'" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Whistler episodes with Jane Adams
Jane Adams was in several episodes of The Whistler.
She asked me if I could find out the titles of those episodes so I could get
them for her.
She might have been billed as either Jane Adams or Poni Adams or Betty Jane
Bierce.
I would appreciate it if anyone could help.
Thanks, Mitch Weisberg.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:11:47 -0500
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Johnson Family
Will person inquiring about The Johnson Family please reply to me by E-Mail.
Tom Heathwood Heritage4@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:12:07 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Silly Boy
Jim Cox posts:
I was driving on the far side of Kauai's shores last week in one of the
remotest areas of civilization, claimed to be the westernmost of this
nation.
I have just one Question Jim. What motivated you to leave that garden spot.
But then again, I suppose it's changed since I last saw it. SIGH!
Welcome Home!
Hal(harlan)Stone
Jughead
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