Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #59
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 2/15/2004 4:18 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 59
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Jack's diabetes                       [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  Re: Orange and Gold                   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Trains, planes, [removed]             [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Re: Mason Adams and Cod Liver Oil     [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  This week in radio history            [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Frank Parker found                    [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  re: celery tonic                      [ Paulgough5@[removed] ]
  charlie chan                          [ edcarr@[removed] ]
  Drama Hour Redux                      [ <nemesis@[removed]; ]
  Cod Liver Oil                         [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
  cod liver oil                         [ "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed] ]
  Cod Liver Oil                         [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  Celery Tonic and Cod Liver Oil        [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:33:37 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack's diabetes

Deric (not to be confused with Derek) writes:

Speaking of JB on his birthday, I heard a story that Jack flaunted pride at
having Diabetes from a biography special I saw of him.  Are these A&E things
to be believed?

The A&E Biography of Jack was a very good one, aside from the error about
Jack first meeting Mary in Los Angeles (and I should note that was the only
error
in it I [removed]'s saying something).  It isn't that Jack was so proud
of having [removed]'s the context as Gisele told it to me:

"[Jack] was happy they found something.  He said, 'Dollface, you know what?
They make me go to the hospital once a year because they have to have that,
and I have to pass muster or something-and they never find anything.  I'm in
there for two days.  It's boring as hell, but they make me do it-I'm going in
to
get my usual yearly checkup, and then I'll see you for lunch on Thursday.'  So
I met him on Thursday, and he came running up to me and he said, [singsongy]
'I've got diabetes!  They found something!'"

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:01:12 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Orange and Gold

On 2/13/04 6:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

Can Elizabeth finish the color spectrum by outlining the ownership, use and
times of the Orange and Gold networks

Orange and Gold were Pacific-only networks used by NBC.

Originally, the Red and Blue networks went no further west than Denver
due to AT&T line issues -- no permanent lines suitable for broadcast use
were available between Denver and Salt Lake City. Thus, in order to
service sponsors interested in national coverage, the Orange network was
inaugurated in April 1927, fed by KGO-KPO, San Francisco. The network
aired some original programming, but most of the programs were
restagings, a week behind, of programs aired over NBC Red and Blue, with
San Francisco talent performing from the same scripts and music used in
New York.

This system continued until December 1928, when a permanent Denver-Salt
Lake City link became available. The Orange Network's restaged programs
were discontinued, and Orange became a Red/Blue supplemental network,
access to which was available to national sponsors at an additional
charge. Original programming continuted to be produced out of San
Francisco for regional sponsors, and these programs were heard only in
the West.

The Gold network was a second supplemental chain serving the Northwest,
operating from 1931 to 1933.

The Orange network continued, as a supplemental unit of NBC, thru the end
of 1935 -- when separate Pacific Red and Pacific Blue networks were
established.

Elizabeth

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:01:37 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Trains, planes, [removed]

OK, now that we have put forth some submarine shows, how about some radio
shows that have trains, planes, busses, etc. in supporting roles?

    This is only a partial list, but maybe you can help me with some other
[removed]

    //Trains//
    BBC:  Ghost train
    Escape:  Lost special / Orient express / Train from Obesfelde
    Quiet, please:  Green light
    Mysterious Traveler:  Locomotive ghost / Ticket to Paris
    Suspense:  Commuter's ticket / Great train robbery / Signalman
    CBSRMT:  4:15 express / Good times express / Last train out / Orient
express

    //Airplanes//
    BBC:  Doppelganger machine
    Quiet, please:  One for the book / Very unimportant person
    Suspense:  Mission completed / Death flies blind

    //Trucks, semis, [removed]
    Escape:  13th truck

    //Cars//
    Suspense:  Death on highway 99

    //Ships, boats, [removed]
    Escape:  About every other program seems to deal with seagoing vessels!

    //Space ships//  No, no, no -- I'm not bringing these up!  The list
would be too [removed]

Some of these titles I would like to replace in better audio.  Can you add
to this list?

Ted Kneebone/1528 S. Grant [removed], SD 57401/605-226-3344
OTR: [removed]

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:02:58 -0500
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Mason Adams and Cod Liver Oil

"Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; mentioned Lou Grant. I've been meaning
to ask about one of the actors on that show, Mason Adams (I think).
He played Charlie, Lou's co-editor. I know he was also on Pepper
Young's Family and that he was the menacing Atomic Man on the old
Superman serial (hard to imagine that gentle voice being menacing).
And he is currently the voice of Smucker's.

But I think I also remember that distinctive voice from a show that
aired briefly on weekday afternoons called "Whispering _______
(something or other)" I recall that it was some sort of monologue.
But that's all I remember, if even that much is accurate. Anybody
have any information on this show, or any other tidbits about Mr.
Adams' career?

Douglas Gonnelly <corganoid@[removed]; asked about cod liver oil:
The other item mentioned in the show was "cod liver oil."  I have no idea
what this was used for.

You can still buy cod liver oil, though multivitamins have made it
rather obsolete. It was a major source of vitamin A for kids growing
up in the OTR area, either because vitamin pills were less common, or
because folks didn't trust them. Most kids hated it but my Mom
tricked me, making me think it was a special treat. She would give it
to me as a "reward" for good behavior. This would never have worked
had our home not been rural, which meant I was not around other kids
much. Eventually I learned the truth from my peers: that cod liver
oil actually tastes awful, and from then on I resisted it like any
normal kid.

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:03:19 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history

 From Those Were The Days --

2/15

1932 - George Burns and Gracie Allen debuted on The Guy Lombardo Show on
CBS.

1943 - My True Story was heard for the first time on ABC.  The program
continued for 17 years and was presented in cooperation with True Story
magazine.

2/18

1949 - Yours Truly Johnny Dollar debuted on CBS. The program starred
Charles Russell as the insurance investigator with the action-packed
expense account.

2/19

1922 - Ed Wynn became the first big-name vaudeville talent to sign on as
a radio talent. Previously, top talent had not considered radio a
respectable medium.  (I'm sure this date of 1922 is incorrect and I'm
sure I'll learn the real date soon. <g>)

Joe

--
Visit my slightly updated (1/1/04) homepage:
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:15:47 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Frank Parker found
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I found Frank [removed] not the way we wanted to.  Darnit.

Frank Parker, b. April 29, 1903, New York City; d. January 10, 1999,
Titusville, Florida

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 23:29:35 -0500
From: Paulgough5@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: celery tonic

re: cod liver oil

I don't know why Phil Harris would use it, but cod liver oil was used as a
vitamin D source. I remember getting it from a dropper as a child, and I
suspect many of the otr news group do too. I never acquired a taste for it. I
seem to remember one reason it was used was to preserve vision. Didn't work
all that well as I now have bifocals! But, I'm sure, my mother meant well.

Paul Gough

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 23:29:50 -0500
From: edcarr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  charlie chan

hi
just to let everyone know, that a friend just gave me 2
charlie chan australian shows, and i don't see them
listed anywhere, these came from the orig discs and
are in beautiful sound.
the show titles are
"THE FRIGHTENED SHARF ( a person who changes
money)
"THE TELL TALE HANDS (a blind person)
no dates
ed

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:43:45 -0500
From: <nemesis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Drama Hour Redux

To the person who told us about the new Drama Hour webcast--
THANK YOU!!!
Linda T.

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:01:22 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Cod Liver Oil

Douglas Gonnelly brought up very bad memories when he said:

The other item mentioned in the show was "cod liver oil."  I have no idea
what this was used for.

My mother insisted we have cod liver oil every day.    According to her it
was good for everything.   It was the worst tasting thing imaginable and the
orange juice she provided as a chaser couldn't touch the slimy residue which
never seemed to go away.   I can still taste it now.    This was in the late
40s, early 50s for me.

Ugh

Irene Heinstein

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:26:21 -0500
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

Hi friends,

Here is this week's line-up for the week of 2-15-04 on my Olde Tyme Radio
[removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
streaming RealAudio at [removed]

Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

We look forward to having you join us!

	Jerry

Here's this week's lineup:

SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

WE THE PEOPLE
1-26-49  "Life On Mars"
Guests: Clyde Tumbar, Lauritz Melchior, Dr. Ezeki Ukawa, The Corn Cobblers

SLEEP NO MORE
Episode 4  11-28-56  "Mr. Mergenthurker's Loblies" and "August Heat"
Narrated and Dramatized by Nelson Almstead
Host: Ben Grauer NBC Sustained

HALLMARK PLAYHOUSE
Episode 89  6-1-50  "The Story of Kansas City" Stars: Jane Wyman and Robert
Young Host: James Hilton This is a special hour-long show broadcast from
Kansas City and designed to commemorate its Centennial
=======================================

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

YOURS TRULY, JOHNNY DOLLAR
CBS    A complete story from the serialized show from the week of 5/14/ -
5/18, 1956 - "The Matter of the Medium, Well Done"
Stars: Bob Bailey and a bevy of OTR actors.

BOB AND RAY EXTRA
"The Search for Togetherness"
Stars: Bob Elliot and Ray Goulding
========================================

THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

The Glowing Dial's Sunday Funnies and other silliness featuring:

Gasoline Alley
WOR / SYNDICATED 1948-49    "The Adventure Of Jealous Jessica"

Moon Mullins
CBS Audition 1940 or 1947 "Suit Of Armor"

The Sad Sack
CBS   1946   "Sad Sack Comes Home"

That Brewster Boy
NBC RED   1941   "Joey Runs Away From Home"

Blondie
ABC   1949-50   "The Acting Bug Bites Alexander"

The Spike Jones Show
CBS 6/25/49 "Opera"
====================================

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
shows.

            Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];

  [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
  Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:28:15 -0500
From: "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  cod liver oil

corganoid@[removed] asked

The other item mentioned in the show was "cod
liver oil."  I have no idea what this was used for.

Well, Douglas, if you'd been a child in postwar England with me, you'd have
had at least one spoonfull a day. I don't take it now, but  have a bottle in
the house.,

The label says

"A traditional remedy for the relief of joint pains and stiffness. Also used
in the treatment of combined vitamin A,D & E deficiencies."

Given the post war diet most growing children were fed this. I lived in
Hull, East Yorkshire, where there was a big cod liver oil factory, and the
smell hung over the area all the time. Later when the Clean Air Act came in,
they were forced to filter it and many of these nostalgic smells have gone.

Regards from England
Phil

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:28:25 -0500
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cod Liver Oil

corganoid@[removed] asked:

The other item mentioned in the show was "cod liver oil."  I have no idea
what this was used for.

A search in Google for "cod liver oil" will list many sites about this
remedy. As a sickly child, I was given one dose by our local pharmacist. It
tasted so bad that I fussed & screamed & refused to take any more of the
stuff after that.
Now I hear that they have it in "losenge" [removed] not interested.

Herb Harrison

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:07:06 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Celery Tonic and Cod Liver Oil

Douglas Gonnelly, reminiscing about Phil Harris, notes

First, Phil mentions he was buying two bottles of "celery tonic."  I
did a little research into this and discovered that celery tonic is was
often used as a stress reliever.  Is this true?  Or perhaps, knowing
Phil's character, it was used for other purposes (hangover remedy?)

There have been many hangover remedies, most of which don't really work.
The best is Thiamin (Vitamin B-1) taken in large doses.  That aside,
celery tonic might well have been used for such.

The other item mentioned in the show was "cod liver oil."  I have no
idea what this was used for.

I don't either, but I recall getting a daily dosage of the stuff while
small.  It's true that for grownups, it might help prevent
arteriosclerosis, but for little children?  But we children often got a
lot of dosages we didn't really need.  There was some stuff called
Loraga, which was some sort of mild laxative that I and my sister got
nightly, too.

You can get Cod Liver Oil in tablet form ("softgel") these days; I used
to get a teaspoonful of the stuff.

We also got carrot juice, as I recall.

FWIW, V-8 was a vegetable combination juice that we had a lot of during
World War II.  I've been under the belief that V-8 was a way to stretch
the tomato juice supply, but it's still being sold.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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