Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #291
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Date: 9/6/2004 11:58 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 291
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Internet Radio Database               [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
      Early TV fictional character          [ Stark Maynard <starkmaynard2000@yah ]
      Amanda Randolph                       [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      Freddie Bartholomew question and Mil  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Upcoming interview with Fred Foy      [ "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@6 ]
      Milton DeLugg                         [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
      Milton DeLugg                         [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Frank DeVol                           [ Wwtom@[removed] ]
      Radio to TV character                 [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
      Re: Amanda Randolph                   [ Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@earthlin ]
      9-5 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      9-6 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Late Night TV                         [ Udmacon@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:02:35 -0400
    From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Internet Radio Database

    Okay, as I previously stated, I kept posting on the Internet Movie
    Database's "Contributors' Message Board" about how great it would be if
    even just a handful of radio shows were added to the IMDb, creating
    links from film actors to radio shows. Here then is the non-negotiable
    response to me from the IMDb about my suggestion:

> >     If there's no visual component, it's outside the scope of what we

    choose to focus on. This is clearly the case for radio plays. If we
    accepted radio work (aside from as "other works"), then we'd have to
    accept books on tape, and audio CDs, and eventually, we'd end up trying
    to catalog all recorded audio works. Sorry, *way* outside the scope.
    There's much more than enough work waiting for us to get to it just
    within our existing [removed];<

    With all that established, I now ask: Why is there no Internet Radio
    Database?

    The IMDb began about 15 years ago as a few lists posted on Usenet in the
    [removed] newsgroup by 23-year-old Col Needham and a few other
    film fans. In 1993 it became a WWW database from Cardiff University. By
    1994, the set-up was designed so volunteer editors could review the
    submissions/corrections/additions entered by any user. By 1996, Needham
    and his volunteers were able to quit their day jobs. Currently, the IMDb
    is about to expand its TV series information into what I gather will be
    individual pages for each TV series episode.

    So here's my question: Why doesn't someone create the Internet Radio
    Database (with the IMDb as a model) in order to centralize and hyperlink
    the pool of information available from the assembled roundtable of radio
    experts? Even if launched with only three radio series (one drama, one
    comedy, one variety), the submission of info from expert users would
    soon demonstrate the value. Other series could then be added on a
    regular basis -- with a constant flow of expert user corrections and
    additions.

    Bhob

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    Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:08:05 -0400
    From: Stark Maynard <starkmaynard2000@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Early TV fictional character

>     How about John Brown as "Digger" O'Dell the friendly
>     undertaker. He certainly was an early crossover from
>     radio as he appeared in the Life of Riley with Jackie
>     Gleason in the late 40's. I do not believe he ever was
>     in the Bendix TV Riley series.

    No, the "Digger" character was missing from the Bendix TV series. I've recently
    been transferring a lot of the Life of Riley TV episodes to DVD and in
    re-watching them had wondered why the "Digger" character didn't get transferred
    when Bendix took over. He had been a part of the earlier 1949 movie which also
    starred Bendix.

    Stark Maynard

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    Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:08:36 -0400
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Amanda Randolph

>     09-02-1896 - Amanda Randolph - Louisville, KY - d. 8-24-1967
>     actress: Madame Queen "Amos 'n' Andy"; Oriole "Beulah"

    When did Amanda Randolph play Oriole? Oriole was played by Ruby Dandridge
    when I listened to the show, one of my favorites. Amanda Randoplh was one of
    the actresses who played Beulah at that time.

    Barbara

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    Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:24:30 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Freddie Bartholomew question and Milton DeLugg

       Listening to AFRS' fourth anniversary program (5/29/46) show earlier
    on Jerry Haendiges' site there was a throw away comment by Bob Hope who
    said Bing Cosby couldn't make it because he was home watching over his
    boys and didn't want to have happen to them what happened to Freddie
    Bartholomew which got a big laugh.  What was he did?
       As to Milton DeLugg, he was the band leader on The Gong Show in the
    mid-70s and introduced as "and Milton DeLugg and his band with a thud".  :)
       Joe

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    Visit my homepage: [removed]~[removed]

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    Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:51:14 -0400
    From: "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Upcoming interview with Fred Foy

    Will anyone be taping or otherwise recording the interview scheduled
    with Fred Foy (as mentioned in a post a couple of days ago)?  I'd like
    to get a copy, and since it isn't being streamed -- and since I live
    well out of the range of the station! -- I'm wondering if anyone will be
    taping it.

    After all, one can't be a Lone Ranger fan without also being a
    FredFoyFan!

    Many thanks -- and feel free to reply to me offline.
    Fred Hillman

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:19:16 -0400
    From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Milton DeLugg

>     MIlton a/k/a Happy Kyner was the bandleader and third banana on the
>     fictional Fernwood 2Night with Martin Mull and Fred Willard.

    I don't know if it was "Fernwood Tonight", or its spinoff, "America Tonight",
    but I do recall "Milton DeLugg & his Band with a Thug!"

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:34:25 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Milton DeLugg

    Hi Everybody,

    I just had Milton DeLugg over at Frank Bresee studio for an interview a
    couple of month ago.  Milton is doing fine and I wish I could get him for
    the SPERDVAC convention but he spends the fall in NY getting any to produce
    the Thanksgiving Mazy parade.  This is a big show and take allot of time for
    him to produce each year.  Milton career goes back to 1938 with the big
    bands and He was chosen by Al Jolson to be part of his movies Jolson sings
    again plus the Kraft Music Hal.  He was the band leader for Abe Burl radio
    show.  He work on Duffy Tavern, plus Fred Allen show too.  He was Frank
    Luster partner on many songs.  Milton wrote such songs like Be My Life
    Companion by the Mel Brother, Doris Day Chain high.  He was the tonight show
    band leader in the 1960s, plus Chuck Barris band leader too.  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:34:34 -0400
    From: Wwtom@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Frank DeVol

    Frank DeVol released two wonderful stereo albums on Columbia back in the
    1960s entitled Radio"s Great Old Themes and More Radio's Great Old Themes.
    Devol
    and his Rainbow Strings orchestra played the openings to a variety of old time
    radio shows.  The albums included a booklet with pictures of various old-time
    radio actors and personalities.

    Wesley Tom
    Redlands, CA

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:35:07 -0400
    From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio to TV character
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    Hi -- I remember from old Radio Mirror magazine and a photo story there was a
    very early live TV drama of "Mr. District Attorney" with the original radio
    cast: "Jay Jostyn in the title role, Len Doyle as Harrington, and Vicki Vola
    as Miss Miller".
    This was certainly one of the earliest transformation of radio actors in their
    original roles to television.   Also some of the
    radio soap operas like "The Guiding Light" and "Young Doctor Malone" came to
    TV with the radio cast intact.
        Slightly later, there were planned new programs with co-existing radio and
    TV versions with the same casts, such as "Martin Kane, Private Eye" and "Wild
    Bill Hickok" with Guy Madison and Andy Devine.  -- Jim Harmon

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:35:46 -0400
    From: Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Amanda Randolph

    on 9/4/04 10:17 AM, [removed]@[removed] at
    [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     Subject:  Amanda Randolph

>     "09-02-1896 - Amanda Randolph - Louisville, KY - d. 8-24-1967
>     actress: Madame Queen "Amos 'n' Andy"; Oriole "Beulah"

>     Every day at 10:45 [removed] a delightful blues singer and pianist did a fifteen
>     minute show of songs and patter. It was Amanda Randolph.

    ***Actually, Amanda Randolph played the Kingfish's mother-in-law, "Mama," on
    both radio and TV. It was her sister Lillian who played Madame Queen (and
    Birdie on THE GREAT GILDERSLEEVE).  Also, Lillian briefly played Beulah on
    radio before her sister assumed the role, but I'm not aware of either of the
    Randolph sisters playing Oriole.  Ruby Dandridge played Oriole on radio,
    while Butterfly McQueen later played Beulah's friend on television.
    --Anthony Tollin***

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:39:57 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-5 births/deaths

    September 5th births

    09-05-1892 - Joseph Szigeti - Budapest, Austria-Hungary - d. 2-19-1973
    violinist: "Camel Caravan"; "Elgin Christmas Party"; "Concert Hall"
    09-05-1895 - Craig Earl - Great Barrington, MA - d. 8-1985
    quizmaster: "Professor Quiz"
    09-05-1897 - Arthur Nielsen - Chicago, IL - d. 6-1-1980
    Founder of the Nielsen Ratings
    09-05-1897 - Doris Kenyon - Syracuse, NY - d. 9-1-1979
    actress: Ann "Crossroads"
    09-05-1897 - Morris Carnovsky - St. Louis, MO - d. 9-1-1992
    actor: Adam Bassett "Prairie Folks"; Mr. Kriss "Into the Light"
    09-05-1902 - Darryl Zanuck - Wahoo, NB - d. 12-22-1979
    film director: "Jack Benny Program"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "Triburte to Irving
    Berlin"
    09-05-1907 - Jimmy Wallington - Rochester, NY - d. 12-22-1972
    announcer: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Texaco Town/Star Theatre"; "Alan Young
    Show"
    09-05-1908 - Gloria Holden - London, England - d. 3-22-1991
    actress: Janet Archer "Meet Corliss Archer"
    09-05-1910 - Kenny Delmar - Boston, MA - d. 7-14-1984
    actor: Beauregard Claghorn "Fred Allen Show"; Commissioner Weston "The Shadow"
    09-05-1916 - Frank Yerby - Augusta, GA - d. 11-29-1991
    author: "Best Seller"
    09-05-1934 - Carol Lawrence - Melrose Park, IL
    singer: "New Faces of 1948"

    September 5th deaths

    01-10-1927 - Gisele Mackenzie - Winnipeg, Canada - d. 9-5-2003
    singer: "[removed] Woolworth Hour"; "Mario Lanza Show"; "Club 15"; "Meet Giesele"
    03-10-1918 - Heywood Hale Broun - NYC - d. 9-5-2001
    cbs sports commentator: "Biography In Sound"
    05-28-1899 - Richard Lane - Rice Lake, WI - d. 9-5-1982
    actor: Inspector Faraday "Boston Blackie"
    08-06-1922 - Jackie Kelk - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-2002
    actor: Jimmy Olsen "Advs. of Superman"; Homer Brown "Aldrich Family"
    08-27-1921 - Leo Penn - d. 9-5-1998
    actor, film director: "Family Theatre"; "Hollywood Calling: George Fisher
    Interviews"
    09-16-1914 - Allen Funt - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-1999
    host: "Candid Microphone"
    12-24-1910 - Fritz Leiber - Chicago, IL - d. 9-5-1992
    science fiction writer: "X Minus One"; "Future Tense"; "Audion Theatre"
    12-24-1910 - Mitchell Ayres - Milwaukee, WI (Raised: NYC) - d. 9-5-1969
    bandleader: "Dunninger Show"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 00:39:25 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-6 births/deaths

    September 6th births

    Please note that Otto Kruger died on his birthday

    09-06-1885 - Otto Kruger - Toledo, OH - d. 9-6-1974
    actor: "Nobody's Children"
    09-06-1888 - Joseph P. Kennedy - East Boston, MA - d. 11-18-1969
    ambassador to Great Britain: "Ambassador Joseph Kennedy"
    09-06-1891 - John Charles Thomas - Meyersdale, PA - d. 12-13-1960
    singer: "John Charles Thomas Program"; "Westinghouse Program"
    09-06-1894 - Billy Mills - Flint, MI - d. 10-20-1971
    conductor: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Great Gildersleeve"; "Amos 'n' Andy"
    09-06-1899 - Billy Rose - NYC - d. 2-10-1966
    creator-stager: "Jumbo Fire Chief Program"
    09-06-1902 - Morgan Beatty - Little Rock, AR - d. 7-4-1975
    newscaster: "News of the World"
    09-06-1904 - Maxie Rosenbloom - NYC - d. 3-6-1976
    light heavyweight boxing champion, actor: "Slapsie Maxie Show"
    09-06-1908 - Paul Lavalle - Beacon, NY - d. 6-24-1997
    conductor: "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street"; "Dinah Shore Show"
    09-06-1909 - Michael Gordon - Baltimore, MD - d. 4-29-1993
    film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    09-06-1918 - Jay Stewart - Summitville, IN - d. 9-17-1989
    announcer: "Great Gildersleeve"; "Hollywood Barn Dance"; "Spotlight on Music"
    09-06-1925 - Jimmy Reed - Dunleith, MS - d. 8-29-1976
    blues singer, guitarist, harmonica playere: "One Night Stand"

    September 6th deaths

    02-09-1914 - Ernest Tubb - Crisp, TX - d. 9-6-1984
    singer: (The Texas Troubador) "Grand Ole Opry"
    03-23-1910 - Akira Kurosawa, Tokyo, Japan - d. 9-6-1998
    film director: NHK Tokyo, Japan
    06-27-1911 - Dr. Jay Morton - Hollywood, CA - d. 9-6-2003
    Best know for the catchphrase "Look; up in the sky, etc." on "Superman"
    07-04-1900 - Gertrude Lawrence - London, England - d. 9-6-1952
    singer, actress: "Royal Gelatin Hour"; "Campbell Playhouse"; "Radio Reader's
    Digest"
    07-11-1914 - Tommy Bartlett - Milwaukee, WI  - d. 9-6-1998
    emcee: "Welcome Travlers"
    07-18-1918 - Jane Frazee - Duluth, MN - d. 9-6-1985
    vaudeville act with sister
    09-06-1885 - Otto Kruger - Toledo, OH - d. 9-6-1974
    actor: "Nobody's Children"
    09-26-1875 - Edmund Gwenn - Glamorgan, Wales - d. 9-6-1959
    actor: Ebenezer Scrooge "Christmas Carol"; "Lux Radio Theatre
    10-02-1909 - Alexander Raymond - New Rochelle - d. 9-6-1956
    cartoonist: Created Flash Gordon and Jungle Jim
    11-14-1920 - Johnny Desmond - Detroit, MI - d. 9-6-1985
    singer: "I Sustain the Wings"; "Philip Morris Frolics"; "Songs for Sale"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 14:53:00 -0400
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Late Night TV

    I believe the sequence was Jack Paar, America After Dark, then Johnny Carson.
    [removed] was it America After Dark, Jack Paar, Johnny Carson?!

    Too early in the [removed] get more [removed]

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