Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #84
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 3/24/2006 6:56 AM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2006 : Issue 84
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      shows from NBC Day Time               [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      TV/Radio Promotions                   [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Ricky Nelson                          [ wayne_johnson@[removed] ]
      Re: Lum and Abner                     [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
      Ralston, Tom Mix, and the Like        [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
      Re: Jack French                       [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
      Ralston and Tom Mix                   [ "Jerry Bechtel" <jerrybechtel@jalc. ]
      regarding lum and abner               [ Grams46@[removed] ]
      FOTR Script contest                   [ JayHick@[removed] ]
      Suspense & Theater Five ending dates  [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      [removed], not Wickland       [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
      Add this to my Suspense - Theater fi  [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
      Lum and Abner                         [ Radioclass <radioclass@[removed] ]
      Ralston in the store                  [ "Mark Wuellner" <mwuellne@[removed] ]
      I ain't gonna go to Frederick         [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
      Fred Foy                              [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      anyone recognize this?                [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
      How to find Lum and Abner             [ "Mike Leannah" <mleannah@[removed] ]
      Promotions of Radio Versions on thei  [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Radio-"versions" mentioned on TV      [ "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed]; ]
      REXALL                                [ "David S. Siegel" <otrdsiegel@veriz ]

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:25:58 -0500
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  shows from NBC Day Time

    Hi Everybody,

    does any one know what are some of the last surviving recordings of day time
    radio shows from NBC?   I am aware of One Man Family shows from 1959, Bill
    Goodwin show from 1957.  There is block of  NBC shows from 12-23-55 that
    survives from San Francisco.  I know that CBS block of shows from 11-25-60
    does survive.  Thank you for any help,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:50:27 -0500
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  TV/Radio Promotions

    Jim Taylor wrote:

>     I know for a brief time You Bet Your Life mentioned the
>     radio version at least in the early years. When the radio version aired on
>     Monitor, in 1959, there were still announcements for the TV version. Were
>     there still announcements on TV for the radio version that late? The same
>     question applies for TV announcements for the radio version of such programs
>     as, Gun Smoke, People Are Funny, and Have Gun Will [removed]

    Not for GUNSMOKE or HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL that I am aware of.  The radio
    version of HAVE GUN was not admired by CBS execs.  The radio show was merely
    a means (initially) of pleasing Norm McDonnell who wanted to do the radio
    version since he was not (initially) granted involvement with the TV series.
      PEOPLE ARE FUNNY, yes.  They did make mention on the television series
    about the radio program.  They also did the same for SPACE PATROL, SUSPENSE,
    LIFE WITH LUIGI and ONE MAN'S FAMILY.

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:50:53 -0500
    From: wayne_johnson@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ricky Nelson

    I was listening to XM's "The Ricky Nelson Story" yesterday (XM ch-6 ...
    repeat on Saturday at noon I think and again on Sunday at 3pm).  Ricky's twin
    sons told much of the story.  They related that the Ozzie and Harriet show
    actually started as a result of the playful banter between Ozzie and Harriet
    between songs during their band performances.  I always wondered how they
    moved from band performances to radio show and then on to the one-eyed
    monster.

    Does anyone know if recordings of their band performances exist today?

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:54:56 -0500
    From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Lum and Abner

    We have a lot of Lum and Abner shows in our catalog. Anyone
    interested should email me, since my entire radio show catalog is not on line.

    Fred
    Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:56:19 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ralston, Tom Mix, and the Like

    Jack French, speaking of his childhood radio premium acquisitions, noted,

>     Despite that, like many other Digesters, I've harbored unhappy memories
>     of trying to get Hot Ralston down my gullet in order to obtain the box
>     tops for the radio premiums Tom was anxious to send me <snip> [Today,] My
>     Ralston has a pleasing, nut-like flavor, quite different from my memories
>     of childhood. Has Ralston (now Ralcorp Holdings, Inc) changed the recipe
>     or improved the flavor?  Or are my 70 year old taste buds betraying me?
>     I dunno, but Ralston now tastes darn good.

    Years ago, I mentioned in the Digest that I ran into a single-serving box
    of Kellogg's Pep, years after it had effectively disappeared from
    grocers' shelves.  I started eating Pep maybe a year before I started
    listening to Captain Midnight, when I began listening to The Adventures
    of Superman.  By the time I started downing Ovaltine, I was frequently
    downing Pep at breakfast.

    I must have eaten one of the last manufactured boxes of Pep in general
    circulation.  It tasted precisely like what I used to eat as a child, but
    a couple of decades plus later, my tastes had changed.  While I thought
    it was pretty good as a child, as an adult, I deemed the taste being a
    cross between Wheaties and cardboard. The taste hadn't changed; *my*
    taste had.

    When I sent off for Tom Mix premiums, I rarely ate Hot Ralston.  I ate
    Shredded Ralston, which I found easier to prepare, since all I had to do
    was to pour it into a bowl, then add milk and sugar.  As I recall, Hot
    Ralston was the winter product and Shredded Ralston was the fall and
    spring product as I listened to Curley Bradley and the Chief Straight
    Shooter's adventures.

    But then, some formulas do change.  As I was growing up, Ovaltine was my
    main milk related drink, of course, and starting in 1946, I got every
    Captain Midnight premium available.  Some years ago, I picked up a jar of
    Classic Ovaltine, and while it tasted much like what I drank as a kid,
    there was a difference.  Eventually, I learned that the formula changed:
    the eggs in the original formula were omitted.  But what I found was that
    Ovaltine manufactured outside the United States is very close, if not
    identical, to what I used to down.  I've been told that some Oriental
    markets stock the overseas stuff, but those I've visited locally don't
    have any.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:55:07 -0500
    From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Jack French

>     Jack, you were in Frederick and did't give me a call. Shame on you. :-)

    You can add me to the list of Tom Mix fans. As a child, I ordered
    every premium that the program offered. Non survived my mother's
    house cleaning in later years. But, I happened to like hot Ralston.
    What store did you find it in?

    In fact, the only Ralston cereal product that I never liked was Rice
    Chex. I like to old fashion Shredded Ralston. When they changed the
    name to Chex and brought out the Rice Chex, they also changed the
    texture of the, now called, Wheat Chex to match that of the Rice Chex.

    I remember the day I was watching a TV commercial and it said
    something like "Chex is not for kids" and I wanted to scream and tell
    the sponsor of the long history of Ralston and kids.

    Now if you could find Ranger Joe's cereal in the plastic bag that
    would be a find.

    Fred
    Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
    [removed]

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:27:07 -0500
    From: "Jerry Bechtel" <jerrybechtel@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Ralston and Tom Mix
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    Wrong Jack! I think I'm the biggest fan of the Tom Mix show and the
    Ralston Straight Shooters! Every evening (without exception) I would
    curl up in the big chair along side of the table model radio and listen
    to Tom Mix and the Ralston Straight Shooters. I'd NEVER miss a show!
    Along with Captain Midnight, Superman and Terry & the Pirates I'd be
    there from 5 pm to 6 pm every week night. What a ritual! Now, the issue
    of [removed] I really kinda liked it. It was hot, always a lot of
    it and I could usually dress it up with some sugar (brown and/or white)
    or some maple syrup. Sometimes we would add milk to the bowl but usually
    not. Living in rural Pennsylvania there really wasn't much else to do at
    that evening hour. Of course, I'd never miss sending in for the premiums
    and then the next day start anxiously watching for the mailman to bring
    me the offering. What excitement! Growing up in the '40's was great
    wasn't it? Happy [removed]

    Jerry Bechtel

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:28:19 -0500
    From: Grams46@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  regarding lum and abner

    "Corey Cook" [removed]@[removed]   asked:

>     Will someone  please help me in finding places to buy/get as many of the Lum
>     And Abner  shows as possible?
>     I would really appreciate [removed];

    the national lum and abner society has (i believe) all known  copies of the
    programs.  they will copy them  for a small fee or  they have cd's to buy.
     check out:
    [removed]

    peace from  kathy
    support our troops; end the war
    john 3:16

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:38:31 -0500
    From: JayHick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FOTR Script contest

    SCRIPT CONTEST   2006

       The 13th Annual FOTR Script-Writing contest is now open. This year we are
    looking for a warm (half-hour) family comedy (no small children, please -
    teenagers are OK). Create a new, original family (plus other characters if you
    like). Please limit the cast to 6 or 7 (minor parts can be doubled). The story
    should be set in the 30's, 40's, or 50's.
       The usual format includes a short opening, middle and closing commercial -
    either for a product you create or one that existed in the days of OTR.  The
    script must be ready to produce - typed in 10 point or larger typeface with
    all sound cues included.
        The First Prize is $[removed] and the show will be performed at the FOTR
    Convention in 2007. The second prizewinner will receive a prize of $[removed] but
    the script will not be produced.
        Scripts must be submitted by August 31, 2006. Send them to:   Dave
    Zwengler, 319 Plymouth Road, North Brunswick   NJ  08902
       Three experienced judges from our steering committee will pick the winning
    scripts. Suggestions for improvements will be sent to those who do not win.
    For a primer on the preferred page format send a SASE to Mr. Zwengler.

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:44:21 -0500
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Suspense & Theater Five ending dates.

    "Suspense" First episode  07/22/1940 after 945 episodes.  It ended
    09/30/1962

    "Theater Five " First episode  on  08/03/1964  was heard Mon. thru  Fri.
    until 06/30/65

    total episodes 257.

     I check 3 sources, and belive it not, they all agree.

    1. John Dunning's "Encyclopedia of  [removed]  Radio"

    [removed] Jerry Haendiges" Vintage Radio Logs"

    3. Jay Hickerson's "Ultimate History  of Newwork Radio Programing"

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:45:34 -0500
    From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  [removed], not Wickland

    On Wednesday, March 22, 2006, at 07:46 AM, Jack French wrote:

>     Alas, none of these documents set forth the date and place of their
>     marriage, so that is still to be uncovered.  Marriage records of that
>     era in CA are not computerized, so we may have to find a volunteer in
>     the Bay City to go to the courthouse.  Any takers?

    Before we get any volunteers to check out the first marriage license of
    Natalie "Candy Matson" Park, Kathy Hammel has pointed out to me a typo
    error in my spelling of the husband's name:  It's P. Melvin Vickland,
    not Wickland.

    Sorry, [removed]

    Jack French

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:52:51 -0500
    From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Add this to my Suspense - Theater five  e-mal

    Your truly Jonny Dollar Started on 12/08/1948. An audition for the sreies
    that tared Dick Powell

    The first spisode of the series was 02/11/49 and the las t one was 09/30/62
    after 821 episodes.

    Coclusion Suspense & Johnny Dollar went of the Air the same day 09/30/62
    Theater  Five went off later but  started later.

    Sorry to have to send anoth e-mail .

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:53:02 -0500
    From: Radioclass <radioclass@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lum and Abner

    A question was asked in the last digest about
    obtaining lots of Lum and Abner broadcasts.  The First
    Generation Radio Archives has quite a few shows from
    1935 and 1944.  Here's the link:
    [removed]

    Anne

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:39:03 -0500
    From: "Mark Wuellner" <mwuellne@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ralston in the store

    Jim Harmon wrote: "However, Ralston no longer sells the cereal directly, and
    you have
    to buy it from the on-line Vermont Country Store."

    Sorry, Jim, have to disagree.  In Indianapolis, at least, the shelves of
    grocery stores are stocked with Ralston.  So that's at least one major city
    where it's available.

    Mark Wuellner

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:25:36 -0500
    From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  I ain't gonna go to Frederick
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    Jack,
    I am glad that your tastebuds found the mush palatable. I guess I was a
    parasite who enjoyed
    Tom Mix on the radio without eating much of the product. I must have had
    some because I sent
    away for the TV set which turned out to be disappointing plastic rectangle
    about 1" x 3/4" which
    functioned like a one eyed view master with a miniature reel of perhaps 5
    or 6 pictures. Disappointed?
    Hey this almost 70 year old was a youngun (pidgin western), born and
    raised in Phoenix when it
    was  a really small western town.  How was I to know it wouldn't be a
    massive 7" screen telly?
    My thing was buying the General MIlls multi packs of Kix, Wheaties and
    Cheerios where the pack
    itself might have been an airport hangar or a city block of stores
    depending on the themes. The
    individual cereal boxes were houses for the city and I don't remember for
    the airport. By the time
    I completed the theme I hated all three cereals and still rarely eat any
    of them.
    Be of good cheer,
    Ed Kindred

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:14:14 -0500
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fred Foy

    Fred Foy, the inimitable narrator "from out of the past" who
    probably still hears the thundering hoofbeats, was born
    March 27, 1921 in Detroit.  By my calculation, that makes
    him 85 next Monday.  Nowhere in the pages of history can one
    find a greater champion.  Gettum up, Scout!

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:19:54 -0500
    From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  anyone recognize this?

    A listener has asked me if the phrase "six two and even" is from an old-time
    radio show and if so, which one. It doesn't sound familiar to me. Does
    anyone recognize it?

    Thanks,
    Barbara

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    Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:48:00 -0500
    From: "Mike Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  How to find Lum and Abner

    Corey Cook--
    	The best advice I can give you as to how to find Lum and Abner
    material is to write to the National Lum and Abner Society at #81 Sharon
    Blvd., Dora, AL 35062. Become a member and you'll receive their fine
    newsletter which will keep you posted on tapes, CDs, videos, etc.

    Michael Leannah

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    Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:39:27 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Promotions of Radio Versions on their TV
     editions

>     Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:19:09 -0500
>     From: jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed];

>     While listening to some tapes of several old time radio programs,
>     such as Dragnet and You Bet Your Life, there were announcements at
>     the end of the program telling listeners to watch the Television
>     version of these Programs. When the Television version aired, were
>     there similar announcements to hear the radio versions?

    I don't recall any promotions of the radio version on Dragnet.  But
    I'm not sure if the radio version was still on by the time I was
    allowed to stay up late enough to watch Dragnet on television.

    I do remember George Fenniman, at the end of "You Bet Your Life" on
    television mentioning that it was "on radio every Wednesday night."
    That was how I found out about the radio version and first listened
    to it.  But I don't remember him saying anything about the radio
    version after it was no longer on Wednesday night.

>     The same question applies for TV announcements for the radio
>     version of such programs as, Gun Smoke, People Are Funny, and Have
>     Gun Will [removed]

    I never heard any announcements for the radio versions of these
    shows.  But I do remember a regular announcement at the end of TV
    episodes of Space Patrol which said, "Hear Space Patrol on ABC radio,
    consult your newspaper for time and station."

    There were no announcements on the TV version of Howdy Doody about
    the radio show, but there were occasional mentions of it.  Very
    occasional.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:39:46 -0500
    From: "Tim Lones" <tlones1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio-"versions" mentioned on TV

    What's My Line was aired on CBS Radio from May 1952-July [removed] On Sunday
    Nights John Daly would remind viewers to not forget "What's My Line on the
    Radio  and admonish them to "check local listings for the date and time in
    your area" Though the radio show was aired Tuesdays, then moved to
    Wednesdays in most of the country.  The same panel was used for both
    versions but the radio show was a seperate production.

    Herb Shriner's "Two For The Money (NBC/CBS) also had a short-lived radio
    [removed] have heard announcements for both shows during Game Show
    Network's showing of B&W Gameshows in the wee hours of the [removed]

    Tim Lones

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    Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:40:18 -0500
    From: "David S. Siegel" <otrdsiegel@[removed];
    To: OTR DIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  REXALL

        Some time ago a theme that seemed to attract the attention of a number
    of subscribers had to do with the fate of the one time giant of the drug
    store industry, REXALL.
          I recently acquired a book by Dr. Mickey Smith entitled: THE REXALL
    STORY: A HISTORY OF GENIUS AND NEGLECT (HAWORTH PRESS, Binghamton, NY /
    2004) that is most informative as regards to the rise and sad decline of a
    drug store chain that once numbered upwards of 10,000 stores.
         The author, a Professor Emeritus in the School of Pharmacy at the
    University of Mississippi, is no stranger to the world of OTR as he had
    previously penned PHARMACY AND MEDICINE ON THE AIR (Scarecrow, 1989) a
    wonderful book about pharmacists and physicians as they were portrayed on
    the radio.
          The REXALL book, includes some interesting insight into the PHIL
    HARRIS-ALICE FAYE  radio program and the relationship between the creative
    team and the sponsors.
          If you are among the curious who had speculated about the fate of
    Rexall, I recommend this book.
    DAVE SIEGEL

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