Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #152
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Date: 5/23/2007 2:47 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2007 : Issue 152
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Meredith Willson                      [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      Don't worry Mark                      [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
      IRA LEIGH COOK                        [ Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@sbcgl ]
      OTR Recreation in Claredon Hills      [ seandd@[removed] ]
      5-23 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Kermyt Anderson and radio voices      [ "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Recycling music                       [ "wayne_johnson" <wayne_johnson@mind ]
      Re-runs, Remakes, and Repeats         [ "thomas" <evander800@[removed]; ]
      second half hour of drama on MBS in   [ jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:36:02 -0400
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Meredith Willson
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           I noticed the name of Meredith Willson on one of the recent
    birth/death lists.  His name sounds very familiar to me for some reason.
    Is he the same person who wrote the music for the musical "The Music
    Man"?  I could be mistaken.

    As always,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:36:38 -0400
    From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Don't worry Mark

    In digest #150, Mark Kinsler wrote:

>     that there was some solemn edict
>     that any recordings were to be destroyed immediately after the
>     broadcast, and that re-runs were an artifact of decadent
>     television.

    Don't worry Mark, my snark meter is well-tuned, and I got your point
    (and consider it valid).  Evidently, a few other readers missed it.

    -chris holm

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    Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:36:55 -0400
    From: Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  IRA LEIGH COOK

    I am very sorry to report to long term Los Angeles listeners on
    the death of legendary KMPC disc jockey Ira Cook has passed away
    on May 15, 2007 at age 90. Ira was what I would call a signature
    announcer on the famous erstwhile station, 710 on the AM dial.
    Sorry, I do not have his birthdate.

    Stuart Lubin

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    Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 18:00:45 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Recreation in Claredon Hills
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    Claredon Hills was recently home to an OTR recreation.  Details
    here:

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    Any one know if they have any involvement with Chicago's Those Were the Days
    Players?

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 22:49:09 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-23 births/deaths

    May 23rd births

    05-23-1882 - James Gleason - NYC - d. 4-12-1959
    actor: "Jimmy Gleason's Diner"
    05-23-1883 - Douglas Fairbanks - Denver, CO - d. 12-12-1939
    commentator: "KHJ Los Angeles 1921"
    05-23-1890 - Herbert Marshall - London, England - d. 1-22-1966
    actor: Ken Thurston "Man Called X"
    05-23-1898 - Frank McHugh - Homestead, PA - d. 9-11-1981
    actor: Fairchild Finnegan "Phone Again Finnegan"
    05-23-1901 - Arch McDonald - Hot Spring, AR - d. 10-16-1960
    sportscaster: Washington Senators and Washington Redskins
    05-23-1907 - Carlyne Stevens - Parkhill, Canada - d. 10-1-1961
    announcer: "Cavalcade of America"; "Roxy's Gang"; "Atlantic Family"
    05-23-1907 - Kenneth Griffin - Enid, Oklahoma Territory - d. 1-3-1951
    actor: Larry Noble "Mary Noble, Backstage Wife"
    05-23-1910 - Artie Shaw - NYC - d. 12-30-2004
    bandleader: "Melody and Madness"; "George Burns and Gracie Allen Show"
    05-23-1910 - Benjamin "Scatman" Crothers - Terre Haute, IN - d.
    11-26-1986
    jazz musician: early radio into the 40s
    05-23-1912 - John Payne - Roanoke, VA - d. 12-6-1989
    actor: "Hollywood Star Preview"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-23-1912 - Marius Goring - Newport, Isle of Wight, England - d.
    9-30-1998
    actor: Sir Percy Blakeney/Scarlet Pimpernel "Scarlet Pimpernel"
    05-23-1917 - Murray McLean - Chicago, IL - d. 4-2-1995
    actor: Jimmy Allen "Air Adventures of Jimmy Allen"
    05-23-1919 - Betty Garrett - St. Joseph, MO
    singer-actor: "Savings Bond Show"; "Guest Star"; "Showtime"
    05-23-1921 - Helen O'Connell - Lima, OH - d. 9-9-1993
    singer: (Jimmy Dorsey Band) "Kraft Music Hall"; "Fitch Bandwagon"
    05-23-1927 - Gerald Hiken - Milwaukee, WI
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    05-23-1928 - Rosemary Clooney - Maysville, KY - d. 6-29-2002
    singer: "Rosemary Clooney Show"; "On the Sunny Side"

    May 23rd deaths

    03-15-1915 - David Schoenbrun - NYC - d. 5-23-1988
    news correspondent: CBS News, Paris; "CBS Radio Workshop"
    03-20-1828 - Henrik Ibsen - Skien, Norway - d. 5-23-1906
    playwright: "Great Plays";"Columbia Workshop"; "Theatre Guild On the
    Air"
    03-26-1916 - Sterling Hayden - Montclair, NJ - d. 5-23-1986
    actor: "We the People"
    05-27-1912 - Slammin' Sammy Snead - Ashwood, VA - d. 5-23-2002
    golf legend: "Kraft Music Hall"
    07-10-1894 - Jimmy McHugh - Boston, MA - d. 5-23-1969
    song writer: "Cavalcade of Music"; "It's Time to Smile"; "The Navy
    Sings"
    07-19-1896 - Merle Kendrick - d. 5-23-1968
    orchestra conductor: "Cabin B-13"
    08-04-1915 - William Keene - Pennsylvania - d. 5-23-1992
    actor: Red Lantern "Land of the Lost"
    09-11-1915 - Athena Lorde - NYC - d. 5-23-1973
    actor: Maggie Sprague "Young Widder Brown"; Sherry "Front Page Farrell"
    09-12-1914 - Eddy Howard - Woodland, CA - d. 5-23-1963
    bandleader, singer: "Carton of Cheer"; "Gay Mrs. Featherstone"
    09-24-1886 - James Burke - NYC - d. 5-23-1968
    actor: producer: "Rose of My Dreams"
    10-01-1910 - Bonnie Parker - Rowena, TX - d. 5-23-1934
    outlaw, murderess: "Gang Busters"
    10-07-1900 - Heinrich Himmler - Munich, Germany - d. 5-23-1945
    nazi leader: "This is a Chapter of Glory"
    10-28-1886 - Ruth Gates - Denton, TX - d. 5-23-1966
    actor: Mrs Lenord "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
    11-04-1912 - Humphrey Davis - Meriden, CT - d. 5-23-1987
    actor: Al Douglas "Life Can Be Beautiful"; Sheriff Jackson "Tennessee
    Jed"
    xx-xx-1874 - Arthur Maitland - d. 5-23-1959
    actor: Zeke "David Harum"; Mr. Weatherby "Archie Andrews"

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:29:53 -0400
    From: "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kermyt Anderson and radio voices

    Kermyt Anderson a while back was musing on hearing the voices of radio
    actors when reading novels.

    A prime example of this is Evan's Green's DUST AND GLORY (first published by
    Pan Macmillan, Sydney, 1990).    In this novel about a car rally across the
    Australian outback in the 1950s, Green includes the real-life radio
    personality Jack Davey.    And, being just old enough to remember when Jack
    Davey was a star, I could actually hear his voice in my head every time the
    character in the novel spoke.

    It was a little uncanny  -- but certainly added to the story's realism.

    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:30:13 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
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    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 11:03:25 -0400
    From: "wayne_johnson" <wayne_johnson@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Recycling music

    I was just listening to YTJD ... The Empty Threat Matter.  Johnny goes to
    Tahiti (I hope that I spelled that correctly) and during his description of
    the area there is background music that I would swear is the theme from "The
    Six Shooter".

    Anyone know if this was a common practice ... recycle themes from other
    shows that were no longer on the air?

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    Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 11:05:49 -0400
    From: "thomas" <evander800@[removed];
    To: "old_time_radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re-runs, Remakes, and Repeats

         The discussion of Jack Benny re-runs could lead to some confusion.
         There are three types of program duplication. I refer to them as
    re-runs, remakes, and repeats.
         A re-run is a rebroadcast, using some sort of recording, of the
    original show. 'The Lone Ranger', 'Jack Benny', and 'Richard Diamond' all
    received this treatment by the networks. The bridges (commercials, public
    interest spots, etc.) differed. AFRS re-runs of network shows are the most
    common examples of this approach.
         Remakes were broadcasts repeating an earlier script (often abridged or
    altered in some way) using the same or similar casts. 'Gunsmoke',
    'Suspense', and 'Escape' often broadcast remakes.
         Repeats were rebroadcasts of the same show on the same day with the
    same cast for the West Coast or syndication.  There were slight changes in
    intonation, etc., but often one has to listen closely for differences.  I
    have examples of 'Suspense', 'Jack Benny', and 'Lone Ranger' (for
    syndication), shows that were repeated.
         If I've left anything out, or contributed to the confusion, I welcome
    corrections.
         Tom van der Voort

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    Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 16:40:58 -0400
    From: jim taylor <bettylouson@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  second half hour of drama on MBS in 1957 and 1958

    May 23, 2007

    Dear Old Time Radio Digest readers:

    While reading back issues, I saw a posting about the
    Mutual Broadcasting System and its programming.
    While I was vary young in the late 1950s I remember
    MBS aired one hour of drama five Nights a week.  I
    remember the first half hour of drama, on Monday True
    detective Mysteries Tuesday Treasury agent Wednesday
    Gang Busters Thursday secrets of Scotland Yard Friday
    Counter Spy.

    I cannot remember what the second half hour of drama
    was at 8:30 Monday through Friday.  Did MBS air drama
    on Saturday and Sunday in 1957 and 1958?

    Many Thanks

    Jim Taylor

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