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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 245


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 mistakes corrected
	 Smithsonian's Science Fiction OTR Set
	 Re: BLACK MASS
	 RE: ATTEMPTED REPLY TO SUBSCRIBER
	 Re: When Radio Was
	 Re: FAMILY VALUES
	 THere were lots of things missing in otr as I [removed]
	 Must Have OTR book
	 restoration/collecting ETs
	 13 By Corwin
	 Ken's  ETs
	 Working women and radio
	 Earliest complete entertainment show?

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:39:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: mistakes corrected
Message-ID: <[removed]@login>

To "Dave In Boston": It is Himan Brown, NOT [removed] Marshall who is retaining
the rights to the beloved CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATRE (1974-1982). [removed]
Marshall was the host of it for many years of it's run and has nothing to
do with the ownership of it. [removed] can be seen currently appearing sometimes
on [removed]'s Chicago Hope.

To Arlene: To the best of my knowledge, there is no "Radio Yesteryear"...
are you speaking perhaps of Yesterday USA?  While it is true that YUSA
sometimes plays old country & western music, music does not dominate YUSA's
programming. Old-time radio is played the vast majourity of the time. If
we are indeed speaking of Yesterday USA, a programme schedule IS available
to contributors and supporters of the station, and information is
available at YUSA's web page.  And for all of you out there without a home
satellite dish, YUSA's signal is now available over the internet! All that
is needed is having RealAudio software (available as a free download) and
more infomation is available on that too from YUSA's web site. Why not
visit today?  For more information on YUSA, contact the station's
owner/operator Bill Bragg at:   Bill@[removed]

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|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:56:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Minnehan <rminneha@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Smithsonian's Science Fiction OTR Set
Message-ID: <[removed]@login>

Hi [removed]

   As fate would have it, I have ended up with TWO extra sets of "The
Smithsonian Collection, Old Time Radio Science Fiction" 10 classic otr
shows (five hours) and a 60-page book with a foreward by Ray Bradbury,
digitally remastered and restored on 4 chrome audio tapes.  These have
just been released, and these two extra sets I have are brand new, still
sealed in the original packaging.

   I have no need for these two extra sets, so I'm offering them for sale to
anyone who might be interested. Each set lists for $[removed], but I'm willing
to let these go for $15 each, plus $2 postage. Please e-mail me privately
if you're interested, but again, I only have two available. Thanks.

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|Randy Minnehan - rminneha@[removed]|
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:02:31 -0700
From: dabell@[removed] (Alan Bell)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: BLACK MASS
Message-Id: <v01520d00000130abf08e@[[removed]]>

Thanks to Max Schmid and especially John Whiting for the interesting
memoir. I've had a couple BLACK MASS shows of tape for about 25 years and
it wasn't until the subject came on this forum up a few months ago that I
found out the series wasn't a BBC production. Your description of the
production of a typical episode was particularly fascinating to an ol'
TV/radio production guy like myself. Thanks again.

Alan

_____________________________________________________________________
ALAN BELL  3768 Sonoma Avenue  Santa Rosa, CA 95405  dabell@[removed]
=============================707-546-6988============================

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:09:21 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: ATTEMPTED REPLY TO SUBSCRIBER
Message-ID: <960711190920_574777486@[removed]>

HELP: 
Tried to reply via individual EMAIL with no success.
I was replying to note about cbs radio mystery theatre to a subscriber named
Sera Gene or (??) Sara Gene.  serag@[removed]  would not go through.
Anyone this OTR fan?
<<TOM HEATHWOOD - HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE>>  7/11/96  7:07pm ET.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:13:24 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: When Radio Was
Message-ID: <960711191322_574780450@[removed]>

Write to RADIO SPIRITS in Schiller Park, IL who own the show.
<<TOM HEATHWOOD - HERITAGE RADIO>>   7/11/96  7:10pm  ET
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:24:31 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: FAMILY VALUES
Message-ID: <960711192430_574789320@[removed]>

One of my favorite topics, from time to time, is the "family vales/morals"
issue as it is
connected to how OTR depicts those values and that morality.

Having lived through the era, I can attest that things were a good deal
different then than they are today. Nothing was "perfect" in the 30's, 40's,
and 50's. There was crime, war, and the beginniong of a decaying process
towrds the end of the 50's. 
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:10:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: JSEXTON@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: THere were lots of things missing in otr as I [removed]
Message-id: <01I6YIWSCSCA8WWEGV@[removed]>

Such as the following
Kids killing kids
kids engaging in sex
kids cursing,sassing or mistreating their parents
crack cocaine
drive by shootings
violent hate crimes
drug dealers or drug deals
couples divorcing every week
abortion
bad guys exalted as "winners"
Our country demoted,made fun of
disrespect for God,morality,or the golden rule
promotion for narcotics
tasteless or vulgar jokes

Yep,I missed a lot!!! Some of this may have brought out in some of
the crime or western [removed] Comedy was [removed] never made me
blush or left a bad taste in my [removed] can't say that for TV.
This is not meant as a slam to [removed] only expresses my memories
of something quite wonderful-that lacked elements I wished I had never
known existed. John Sexton (JSEXTON@[removed])

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:35:58 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Must Have OTR book
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Bob Burnham wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone had seen a copy of the book advertised in the
>current SPERDVAC [removed] basically looks like a coffee table volume with
>over 900 photographs of radio happenings from its earliest years to the
>present.
>I must say from the ad, it *sounds* like a must have publication.  Comments?
>

Bob, if you are referring to the "Radio's First 75 Years" book ad, then here
are some observations:

The book has photos that are not easily found including many from local
stations around the country at the time. I found many otr reference photos
plus many into current times (Rush Limbaugh's mug is there too). Many of the
photos come from the Broadcast Pioneer's Library, but I would say that for
someone who is involved in the projects you are involved in that it would be
a worthwhile investment. I also think that any trueblue OTR enthusiast
should get it.

As a pictorial reference it is not bad, as any other kind of reference I say
it is not that valuable. For $[removed] it is worth it in my opinion.

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Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          
AOL: JimWidner                            

                                                 

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:40:55 -0500
From: "...." <jsalerno@[removed]>
To: "'[removed]@[removed]'" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: restoration/collecting ETs
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

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Hi, out there, I'm new to this group and would like to know who else =
besides me is interested in colecting ETs and digital restoration =
techniques. Are there any discussion groups or websites that =
particularly address these issues?=20

I colect mainly Amos 'n Andy & Lone Ranger. Are there any web sites =
devoted to these characters?

Would appreciate hearing from anyone with an interest in these =
directions.

Thanks!

Joe Salerno jsalerno@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:20:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Richard Fish <fish@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 13 By Corwin
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Here is a list of the shows in the 13 By Corwin series:

1.  "The Odyssey of Runyon Jones" (6/8/44) starring Michael Artist as
Runyon.  A fantasy about a boy looking for his dog Pootzy among the
Bureaucrats of the Universe.

2.  "The Undecided Molecule" (7/17/45) starring Groucho Marx, Vincent
Price, Norman Lloyd, Sylvia Sidney, Vincent Price, Robert Benchley, and
Keenan Wynn.  A rhymed fantasy about a molecule who refuses to obey
Chemical Law.

3.  "El Captian & The Corporal" (7/25/44) starring Joe Julian in a romance
about a soldier and a pretty girl on a long train ride.

4.  "New York: A Tapestry For Radio" stars Martin Gabel and features
Minerva Pious (Pansy Nussbaum) and others in a freewheeling look at
wartime New York.

5.  "Radio Primer" (5/4/41) is an alphabetical satire of Bigtime Radio.

6.  "Descent Of The Gods" (8/2/41) stars Henry Morgan as Nick, the God of
Trivia as several ancient greek gods visit modern America.

7.  "My Client Curley" (3/7/40) is an adaptation of a story by Lucille
("Sorry, Wrong Number") Fletcher -- a friend of Corwin's and wife of
composer Bernard Hermann -- about a dancing caterpillar, skewering PR men,
agents, and showbiz in general.

8.  "Mary And The Fairy" stars Ruth Gordon and Elsa Lanchester in a story
about a young woman who wins 5 wishes in the Crinkly-Crunkly Bread
contest.  This show is performed in front of an audience, unlike the
others.

9.  "They Fly Through The Air" (2/9/39) is a poetic drama about fliers who
bomb innocent civilians.  Mr. Corwin told me this was inspired by an
interview he read with Mussolini's son, who talked enthusiastically about
bombing raids during the Spanish Civil War, and how "beautiful" the bomb
bursts looked from high in the air.  

10.  "Cromer" (12/1/42) is an episode of the American in England series
Corwin did.  Joe Julian travelled to England with Corwin and starred; this
recording, I think, is a rebroadcast done later on in America.  It's the
story of a typical English village under threat of attack and invasion.

11.  "The Long Name None Could Spell" (3/14/44) is a tribute to the people
of Czechoslovakia, who suffered so horribly under the Nazis.  

12.  "Untitled" (3/18/41) is the story of a [removed], one Hank Peters, who is
dead.  It's a deep focus on the waste and tragedy of war, the meaning of
one life destroyed.  

13.  "Could Be" (9/11/49) is the only hour-long program in the series.
This is the show that Fil Feit liked, based on the idea that the nations
could get together and attack poverty, disease, hunger, etc. with the same
fervor they use when they go to war.  It was produced for the United
Nations.

It's great to read comments about the series!  Mr. Corwin is always
interested in anything said about his work, good, bad, or indifferent.
Anyone who wishes to write to him can do so through me here, either email
or snailmail -- we'll forward it right away!  Our snailmail address is 611
Empire Mill Road, Bloomington IN 47401.

Richard Fish


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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:52:10 -0700
From: Jack Mann <jmann@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ken's  ETs
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi Everyone: Ken Greenwald sent me a demonstration tape also (see
Cameron's post to the V96 #244 Digest). While I'm not exactly certain
what ETs are, I believe them to be like vinyl phonograph records,
only made from metal. 
The tape he sent me (at his own expense) has a 2 minute demo of an
intro to a Suspense show played three separate (OK, Joe?) times. The
first is hissy and hard to understand, the 2nd better, and the 3rd
intro is remarkably clean and clear. Somehow, Ken has figured out how
to pull true full fidelity sound out of these old, messed up ETs.
The tape also has two OTR shows, a Suspense and an Escape. Both of
these shows were truly Hi-Fi [removed], clear and clean. I es-
pecially noticed the sound effects. Some of those jungle creatures
(in the Escape show) were actually running around my living room!
I am not a technical person, Ken, so I have no idea how you do this,
but what you've accomplished is sensational, truly remarkable. I
hope the folks out there can get to hear some of your tapes. They'll
be amazed! Congratulations.
Jack

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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:07:27 -0400
From: stevecap@[removed] (Steven Capsuto)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Working women and radio
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Yes, Connie "Our Miss" Brooks DID hold down a job, but she was unmarried.
My comment referred to radio's avoidance of depicting MARRIED women with jobs.

Radio and early TV could depict single women who were capable, intelligent
and able to hold down a job.  Single men, meanwhile, possessed at least
enough domestic skills to survive.  Yet somehow when these people married
each other, the women turned into Liz Cooper/Lucy Ricardo and the men
started burning clothes with the iron.

Very weird.  Again, "historical context" has nothing to do with it.  My
grandparents had a lot of married women friends who held down responsible
jobs and had abmirable careers.
___
Steven Capsuto, Philadelphia
stevecap@[removed]
WEB page: [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:17:35 -0400
From: stevecap@[removed] (Steven Capsuto)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Earliest complete entertainment show?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I was recently trading RUDY VALLEE SHOWS with someone and we got to talking
about how unusual it is that so many of his early-1930s shows survive in
reasonably good sound.  

It got me wondering, what's the earliest complete entertainment show
(preferably variety or comedy) in circulation?  I have tapes of AMOS 'N ANDY
syndication discs from ca. 1929 (used in cities where the network didn't
have a station).  Do any pre-1929 shows survive intact?
___
Steven Capsuto, Philadelphia
stevecap@[removed]
WEB page: [removed]~[removed]

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