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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 297
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
MP3 Players/Hal Stone [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
Johnny Dollar Actors [ "Nancy L. Hudson" <hudson@[removed]; ]
OTR instead of a sleeping pill! [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
OTR as a sleep aid [ "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed] ]
First Transatlantic Broadcast [ "Dave Marthouse" <dmart@[removed] ]
It Could Be You - WSP Version [ "JLF" <infom@[removed]; ]
"The Lone Ranger Rides Again, And Ag [ "james hunt" <jameshunt@[removed] ]
An Unusual Find, Etc [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
21st Precinct Broadcast Log [ "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@worldn ]
The Lone Ranger [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
OTR as a good bedtime story [ vigor16@[removed] ]
de mortuis nil nisi bonum [ neil crowley <og@[removed]; ]
shot heard round the world [ "Robert Sheldon" <rsheldon@[removed]; ]
"One Man's Family" and Carlton E. Mo [ Christopher Snowden <unkvid@earthli ]
Going to sleep to otr [ Jack Harris <jack@[removed] ]
sleeping to old time radio [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:54:54 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: MP3 Players/Hal Stone
Item 1/2: First I want to thank Ron Martin for his offline information to
me about my false expectations of listening to 40 hours of mp3 OTR on the
128mb in my Otis player . Unfortunately he was correct in that I could only
get about 10 hours of OTR downloaded to 128 mb.
Which leads me to a question. I was not wrong about 40 hours of audible
mp3. I have now downloaded 4 unabridged books from [removed] to my
player to listen to on my upcoming long plane flights. I'm just curious
as to what the technological difference is and why [removed] can format
its mp3s to use so much less space. I hope that the OTR mp3 formatters
are working on this.
Item 2/2: Hal Stone's comments about his new baseball affiliation. I
am very happy that he has found a new baseball home in the desert, I mean
Arizona. I just wonder why they named their team after a snake.
Hal also wrote:
I find it so delightful that Elizabeth and Irene were such rabid fans. One
does not usually think of the gentle sex as baseball fanatics. (Before I get
attacked for that being a sexist statement, it just wasn't the norm back in
my day).
No attacks, Hal. You're absolutely right. Except when it came to
baseball I was definitely not 'gentle.' I remember 'ladies days' at the
parks, an attempt to get women interested in baseball. The NY Giants went
ever farther or is it further. Leo Durocher's then-wife, the actress
Laraine Day did a pre-game show for the Giants for a couple of years.
Hal's smart reference to Dbacks manager Bob Brenly was very clever. He
knew that it would probably make it tough for me to harbor the same hateful
thoughts about the Dbacks that I had as a NY Giants fan about the Brooklyn
Dodgers. He was right.
He just had to mention the wonderful, funny, very smart Bob Brenly who makes
it very hard for me to 'hate' the Dbacks because I have admired him so much
and so long as a Giants player and a broadcaster. This is true for most
Giants fans and certainly true for the organization, announcers, players,
and our truly great manager, that former Dodger Dusty Baker.
As a player he had a show on local radio, at the station which broadcasts
the Giants games and he was a natural; so good, so professional, so quick,
so knowledgeable, a great interviewer, that I now wish he had followed that
broadcasting talent even further, outside of baseball, instead of becoming
manager of a rival team. But Bob loves the game so much I guess it was
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I recognize that the Giants and Dodgers are now fighting each other for wild
card status but WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR. The snake will shed its skin!
Irene
IreneTH@[removed]
.
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:54:41 -0400
From: "Nancy L. Hudson" <hudson@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Johnny Dollar Actors
In response to Herb Harrison in Digest #295,
Here's a list of the actors who played Johnny Dollar, and for how long:
Dick Powell
in one audition recording, "Investigation of Wilfred Brooks the Third"
Dec 7, 1948
Charles Russell
from audition recording "The Robert Perry Case" Jan 14, 1949
to broadcast "The Missing Chinese Stripper Matter" Jan 14, 1950
Edmund O'Brien
from broadcast "Death Takes a Working Day" Feb 3, 1950
to broadcast "The Montevideo Matter" Sep 3, 1952
John Lund
from audition recording "The Trans-Pacific Matter" Nov 24, 1952
to broadcast "The Upjohn Matter" Sept 19, 1954
Gerald Mohr
In one audition recording (for the 15 min, 5 day a week serial)
"The Trans-Pacific Matter" Aug 29, 1955
Bob Bailey
from broadcast "The McCormack Matter - Part 1" Oct 3, 1955
to broadcast "The Empty Threat Matter" Nov 27, 1960
Robert Readick
from broadcast "The Wayward Kilocycles Matter" Dec 18, 1960
to broadcast "The Million Dollar Jewelry Matter" Jun 11, 1961
Mandel Kramer
from "The Low Tide Matter" Jun 18, 1961
to "The Tip-Off Matter" Sep 30, 1962 (last show of the series)
In my humble opinion, Bailey is #1. #2, Gerald Mohr, who brought a
unique, hard-boiled edge to the role, and would have made an interesting
Dollar (then again, if he got the role, we would have not had Bob Bailey
at all.) Robert Readick is my #3 choice.
Russ Hudson
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:01:35 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR instead of a sleeping pill!
I join Mike Thompson and Chris Holm in listening to OTR cassettes when I am
going to sleep. If only technology would make it possible for the
cassette player to sense when we have fallen asleep and automatically shut
off and save wear and tear on the cassettes. :))
I also have a clock-radio CD player (not mp3). I became alarmed about the
future of tape players when I went out to buy a new tape-playing clock radio
and found that there were none available at all the usual electronic places.
So I bought the CD player and started buying CDs from Radio Spirits instead
of tapes.
Take good care of your tape players! Look at what's happening to VCRs!
They're now on the way out. I should have suspected as much when Costco was
selling one for $50 a few months ago. I'm glad I missed the 8-track period.
I always went to sleep when I was in high school listening to OTR (then it
was new time radio) with my clock radio set to turn off after an hour.
Everything old is new again.
Irene
IreneTH@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:01:54 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR as a sleep aid
So, you use OTR as a sleep aid? Well, please dont tell the actors,
directors, sound men, etc that! What a blow to them to know they are
putting you to sleep and missing the last commercial!
Case in point: Howard Culver had a long-running poetry show, with organ
music by Robert Mitchell of the Mitchell Boys' Choir, on KFI, Los Angeles.
Every so often he would be approached by little old ladies who swooned a bit
and sweetly told him how they and their cats would fall asleep every night
listening to him read poetry! This was a compliment? We would only sigh,
groan and roll our eyes!
Lois Culver
KWLK Radio (Mutual) Longview, WA 1941-44
KFI Radio (NBC) Los Angeles CA 1945-47, 50-53
Widow of Howard Culver, actor
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:46:05 -0400
From: "Dave Marthouse" <dmart@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: First Transatlantic Broadcast
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Hello,
I remember reading that the first transatlantic broadcast happened in 1926.
It was a broadcast from station 2LO London that was relayed to the us. Does
anyone on the list have any technical details on it, frequencies, content etc?
Does a recording of this program exist? Any information would be
appreciated.
Dave Marthouse
dmart@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:46:16 -0400
From: "JLF" <infom@[removed];
To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: It Could Be You - WSP Version
I remember quite well the show "It Could Be You" featuring The Washington
State Patrol. I wasn't aware of others. It was quite well done and impressed
an adolescent. I heard it out of a Seattle radio station sometime in the
early 50's.
I would be interested in knowing more about this show.
JLF
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:52:35 -0400
From: "james hunt" <jameshunt@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: "The Lone Ranger Rides Again, And Again ...A
nd Again!
Sent July 31. 2002, 5:25 PM
"Don Hunt" (jameshunt@[removed]. )
Some two years ago, maybe longer The Encore Westerns Channel Began filling
their 6-7PM. Central,
Monday-Friday time slot with reruns of "The Gene Autry" (restored) and "The
Lone Ranger" tv reruns.
On this schedule both series are probably on their third recycled run, at
least. I tuned into a "color"
episode of "LR" two weeks ago, originally on ABC-TV network, circa 1956.
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:53:31 -0400
From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: An Unusual Find, Etc
Greetings! I hope someone can help with this. While going through some old
records I found something rather odd. I think it's a 10" transcription of "
This Is Your Life" program 'Los Angeles Vacation.' What makes it unusual is
that it seems to be played with a regular needle and not a 78 needle. This
is what the label states:
- ----------------------------------------------------
"This Is Your Life"
Los Angeles Vacation
33 1/3 Long Play
Music: Freddie Martin, Louis Armstrong
Voices: Bob Warren, R. W. Dibble, Bob Meigs, Walt Disney
Watch "This Is Your Life"
Wednesday on NBC-TV
- ------------------------------------------------
On another subject:
Barry Gerber wrote last time,
The DCJ500 is perfect for OTR because it
plays MP3 files recorded at very low frequencies, which is how most OTR MP3
files are recorded. The sound is great. You don't need CD-quality sound
for OTR.
I would have to disagree with you on both points Barry. Not all OTR in Mp3
are low codes, as a matter of fact I have about 200 CD's worth of all high
codes. As for not needing CD - quality sound for OTR, I think it's sad that
you have never heard a high quality, crisp, clean show, but to each his own
I suppose.
Shawn
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:56:41 -0400
From: "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 21st Precinct Broadcast Log
My broadcast log for the series 21ST PRECINCT is posted to the Old-Time
Radio Program Logs page at Lou Genco's web site. The address for the Log
page is:
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Between 50 and 60 hours of work went into producing this log.
This 1953-56 CBS series was one of the realistic police dramas of the
early- to mid-1950's that aired in the wake of DRAGNET.
During my research I found a great deal of new information on the
series.
It ran for 12 weeks longer, until November 1, 1956, than is noted in any
Old-Time Radio reference book.
The lead character, the precinct Captain was played by three different
actors. They were:
Everett Sloane as Frank Kennelly,
James Gregory as Vincent Cronin, and
Les Damon as Thomas Keough.
Summaries of the cast and crew information for the series are given in the
log.
The primary source of my information is the 159 scripts used for the
series. From them I got the following information for each episode:
Broadcast Date,
Airing Time,
Episode Number, and
Title.
I also found a CBS promotional packet and several newspaper articles on the
series. The On Radio section of the New York Times was used to verify each
episode's broadcast dates and times and to correct a few discrepancies.
No episode titles were mentioned during the broadcasts. Collectors have
assigned their own titles. I have written a short plot summary for each
episode to help resolve discrepancies between the titles in this log and
collector titles. (Typographical errors in the plot summaries will be
corrected at a later date.)
Want to know more about the series? Go to the above URL. You will also
find broadcast logs for many other Old- and New-Time radio series.
Now, if I could only find more episodes of 21ST PRECINCT so I could
listen to them.
Signing off for now,
Stewart
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:29:03 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger
MJ remarked:
This might be a little off otr subject, but we just got digital cable and
found that the Lone Ranger old tv show from the 50's (actually it had a 1949
copyright) is showing on Encore Westerns at 7pm EST. We just saw "Lone
Ranger gets Silver" so I don't know if they just started the run or if
they're recycling the series. Thought some Lone Ranger fans might be
interested , since we didn't see a tv schedule listed anywhere for it. MJ
I just got satellite a couple months ago and the Starz Superpack contains
many interesting channels. The Westerns Channel does offer The Lone Ranger
at 7:30 pm, EST. I have been watching the series the past few weeks and I
can help you out. They are playing the Lone Ranger TV show in the order
they were aired. Last Friday night they played the premiere episode, "Enter
the Lone Ranger."
The TV show began in 1949, and the first three episodes was kind of a
three-part story-line about the Butch Cavendish gang. After the first three
episodes, the series went about the usual one-episode story line per
episode. The first twelve episodes are commonly available on video (even
available from your local Suncoast). After that, you pretty much have to go
to a collector or trader who has the shows on VHS to get any of the other
episodes. If anyone has the Westerns Channel (like I do) and wants to
record each and every 200+ episodes of The Lone Ranger, now would be the
best time. Tonight, Wednesday, they are playing episode #4 so if one was to
start recording each episode, they can easily fill in the early gap by
buying the early episodes that are on video. I did record three weeks'
worth of the final episodes (in color!) because like I said, the early
episodes are not easy to find. I'd record them myself, even though I have
the time and it's possible, I just don't feel like holding on to dozens and
dozens of VHS video tapes of Lone Ranger episodes.
Lone Ranger fans, grab your remote and Hi Ho to your nearest satlitte
provider! (Radio Shack had a freebee offer two months ago, buy the disc and
receiver and get a refund that covers the same cost. Free satelitte!)
Martin
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:20:50 -0400
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR as a good bedtime story
Hi,
My wife and I have been going to sleep to OTR almost every night since
we've been married. We did CB first back in 1995 when she gave it to me
for Christmas. Life with Luigi was one series. We get a few tapes and
just go through them together. I sleep more to reading before I sleep
than to OTR. We are doing Gang busters this week. How's that for a good
bedtime story. A good restful story for a good night's sleep makes the
end of the day kind of nice.
Deric
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:21:48 -0400
From: neil crowley <og@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: de mortuis nil nisi bonum
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
More on Branca: His ties to the game are still current. He's the
father-in-law of Yankees manager Bobby Valentine.
Valentine, as I'm sure you meant, is the manager of the NY Mets. The
manager of the perennial winners is Joe Torre, who was born in Brooklyn but
saw the light.
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From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
And on the other side of the coin, we tended to trash the ability of the
"voice" identified with our opponents. In the case of my beloved Dodgers, we
used to call Mel Allen, (the hated Yankees play by play man), old "Mush
Mouth". (But [removed] for good reason).
"Mush Mouth"?? Mel's southern accent was less pronounced than Red Barber's
but I remember both being clear speakers and easy to understand despite
their dialectal deficiencies. We Yankee fans used to disparage Barber's
dispassionate announcing as boring - we wondered how the fans could care
when the voice of authority obviously didn't. (I came to admire Red Barber
on NPR in his later years). Mel clearly loved the Yankees and let it show
in his announcing but he was also quick to admire excellence in those
unfortunate enough not to be Yankees. Ted Williams seemed to get more
respect in New York than he did in Boston.
I remember Dodger fans arguing Red Barber's superiority among other side
issues. That the National League was "better", "tougher", even pathetically
"older". Tsk tsk. They also seemed to care about the irrelevant All-Star
game in a way that American League fans couldn't understand. Dodger fans
were inordinately proud when some Peewee or Stinky or some other wee player
made the All-Star team. Of course they had to grasp at such straws since
real baseball glory was all up in the Bronx. We Yankee fans were always
generous in our pity for the many disappointed Dodger fans ("wait till next
year") or the handful of backward facing Giant fans who kept remembering
Christy Mathewson.
(I apologize to those of you who find my tone patronizing. You're right.
Growing up in New York, then as now small-mindedly insular and
close-mindedly provincial, we were more concerned with taunting the locals
than noticing the big wide world out there.)
And Hal, having spent so many years in commercials, you'll have to admit
the Yankees are good for business. No empty ballparks when the hated enemy
comes to town. Good luck to your rattlesnakes, may their venom be strong.
However, until they put 27 World Series flags atop their sandlot they
haven't really beaten the Yankees. And by then the Yanks will be in triple
digits.
Excuse me, I'm going going gone to put up the bulletproof shutters. How
about that!
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:22:29 -0400
From: "Robert Sheldon" <rsheldon@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: shot heard round the world
Irene Heinstein wrote:
Russ Hodges legendary call was truly a radio event because the only people
who actually heard it live were those listening to the radio. The rotation
had Ernie Harwell covering on TV for that inning, and Russ on radio.
I seem to recall that Bob and Ray sent intrepid sports writer Wally Ballew
to cover the game, and when Bob and Ray went on the air an hour or two
later, they called on Wally for his report. Unfortunately, he left the game
early to beat the traffic or something and never knew about Thompson's home
run.
Did anyone else hear that Bob and Ray program? It would, of course, have
been the Oct. 3, 1951 show. I wonder if it's available in any of the Bob and
Ray collections.
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:22:47 -0400
From: Christopher Snowden <unkvid@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "One Man's Family" and Carlton E. Morse
As a longtime OMF addict, I've often wondered about something.
After the show had left the air, did the Barbours simply come to a dead
stop in Carlton E. Morse's imagination? Did he ever say anything about
what he envisioned life for the family was like in 1970, 1980 or beyond?
In his interview with Richard Lamparski, he said that he'd spent
his post-1959 years writing continuously, but for his own pleasure. Did
he ever return to the Barbour saga (other than by compiling that "One
Man's Family Album" book in the 1980s)?
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:45:14 -0400
From: Jack Harris <jack@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Going to sleep to otr
I have been doing that for a number of years. Here is what I do. I
collect masters on audio cd. I then take my audio cds and convert an
entire series to mp3 for myself. Then I can take the cd and put it in my
rio volt that is beside the bed. I pop in those earbuds (much more
comfortable than [removed] can lay sideways on your pillow
comfortably) and go for it. It is also nice as it has a remote on the cord
that I can put under my pillow. I can control the [removed] back and
[removed] tracks etc without ever raising my head. Another nice feature
if I start nodding off I can stop the cd and the next night with the resume
feature it starts right where I left off. I just finished the Johnny
Dollars and just got another Radio Spirits order in. Just finished ripping
those Dragnets so I guess it is to bed early to listen to [removed];G>...
Jack
for dive videos and computers
visit [removed]
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:38:29 -0400
From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: sleeping to old time radio
I have often wondered if there were other OTR fans
falling to sleep to radio shows. I have been doing
this for many years and have found it harder to fall
asleep with out it. For me it's not that important if
I hear the whole show, just so it relaxes me. I
normally listen to shows I have already listend to any
way. I also listen to shows when the pain from my
Arthritis and Fibromyalgia is bad. It
is a great distraction and helps me to relax!! I
am able to use less pain medications this way. Another
benefit of listening. I your ever in need give it
a try, you won't regret it!!!!!
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