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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 156


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 More "Smokedreams"
	 Cassette storage and Mr. Soule
	 Galsworthy
	 The decline & fall
	 Flick Lives
	 Re: cassette storage
	 The Two Minds of OTR
	 ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!
	 radio lists on computers
	 looking for some broadcasts 
	 Olan Soule/Grand Marquee
	 clear cassette cases & supplies
	 Olan Soule
	 Imagination Theater and Hopalong Cassidy
	 Shep Web Page (#2102 AIRWAVES RADIO JOURNAL0 (fwd)
	 Re: 
	 Jean Shepard

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:58:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Ouzts <jouzts@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: More "Smokedreams"
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

And not going back before WWII for parodies, how about:

Fat Mia
Ole Pole
Tall Paul
Pick-eye Eunice
Insane-Os
Terry Tunz  (Shades of Heckle and Jeckle and Mighty Mouse!) 
Cow Mel
Raw Legs

Any More?

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:15:48 -0600
From: bigsteve@[removed] (Steve Darnall)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cassette storage and Mr. Soule
Message-Id: <v01530501adaa98d3c9c0@[[removed]]>

In response to David Van Nordstrand's inquiry about how to store all them
[removed] friend of mine recommended cassette storage albums, which
have worked like a charm. They take up a minimum of shelf space and hold 16
cassettes each, and (so far) have done a pretty good job of protecting the
tapes. (This also makes it easier to drag the tapes along while traveling.)


I buy mine from a company called Polyline, an audio-video supply company in
Des Plaines, IL. I'm sure other cities have similar businesses, though I'll
be happy to supply their phone number to anyone who's interested.

Olan Soule passed away in 1994 at the age of 79. Somewhere I have the tape
of an interview I did with June Foray in which she remarks on how surprised
she was to discover that the romantic lead on the First Nighter program was
actually a short fellow with a receding hairline.

Real good actor, though.

Steve D.

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:27:42 -0600
From: Richard Veit <Richard_Veit@[removed]>
To: OTR Digest <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Galsworthy
Message-id: <[removed]@[removed]>

                       Subject:                               Time:9:39 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Galsworthy                             Date:4/29/96

In issue 151, Marc Antonsson asked whether the BBC radio version of "The
Forsythe (sic) Saga" was available. Well, I don't have any information on "The
Forsyte (correct spelling) Saga," but I might mention another piece by John
Galsworthy that could also be of interest to Marc and others. Galsworthy's
short story "The Apple Tree" was presented by Orson Welles on the Mercury
Summer Theatre broadcast of September 6, 1946 (sponsored by Pabst Beer). It's
a fine production, and of course Welles is strong as the male protagonist. The
pronunciation of the female lead's name, Megan, as "mee-gun" instead of
"may-gun" is a bit disconcerting, but at least the cast is pretty consistent
about this throughout the half-hour.

Incidentally, there is a wonderful 1988 film version of this bittersweet
romance -- retitled "A Summer Story" -- that no one who loves superbly acted
British drama should miss. Rent it at once. (I have bought two copies, in case
one of them wears out!) "A Summer Story" is a poignantly beautiful work of
filmmaking art and surely one of the most overlooked masterpieces of recent
decades.

Richard J. Veit

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:02:03 -0400
From: Robert Kirk <kirk@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The decline & fall
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

At 08:10 4/26/96 -0500, Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]> wrote:
>
>The end of Old Time Radio is kind of like the Fall of the Roman Empire. 
> Historians have set a date, but people at the time may not have noticed 
>that it happen.

Nice analogy. Another one is that, like a landslide, it was fairly quick,
but not instantaneous. Do you define it as the first crack in the cliff,
the peak of the slide, or when the last pebble hits the valley floor?

>Buxton and Owen defined it as 1950.  Clearly there was a lot of activity 
>in the 50's (and they even make some exceptions for 50's shows like 
>Gunsmoke and include them).

This is probably the first crack

>Is the end when the last "program" goes out of production to be replaced 
>by a format -- or is it when the tide has clearly turned?

That's the last pebble.

>You might even argue it was over when the network announcers started 
>saying "this is the (NBC)(CBS) RADIO network"  (rather than "this is 
>NBC, the National Broadcasting Company" or "this is CBS, The Columbia 
>Broadcasting System.")  Meantime, they were saying "this is (NBC)(CBS) 
>(ABC)" on television.

When did that happen?

>I'd argue for 1961 when CBS ended both daytime soaps on radio and the 
>last series in the evening (Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar).  Exceptions 
>noted for Don McNeil and the Breakfast Club (1968) and Arthur Godfrey 
>Time (1972).

I think the dust was starting to settle by then. Somewhere mid 50's
was the first major earth movement, when you could see that the
cliff was falling. TV had superseded the radio for the in home
evening's entertainment. All the new radio shoes coming on were
single guys spinning a record or talking: the Martin Block, Barry Gray,
and, yes, Gene Shepard era. New shows were no longer 'productions'.
I think the single event I mark was the start of 'Monitor'. When was
that? Also, about that time, I was starting to get interested in other
things to occupy my evenings which involved female persons of the
opposite sex, so maybe my attention wandered.

>Efforts by the BBC, NPR, CBC and even CBS Radio Mystery Theater are 
>exercises in Nostalgia -- like Mel Brooks' Silent Movie or writing 
>poetry in Latin.  

I agree;  these are like those folks who pan for gold in the Sierras now.
Might ,make a few bucks, but it's not their life work or forthcoming fortune.

[...]

Bob Kirk

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:38:21 -0400
From: "Robert E. Yellen" <ryellen@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Flick Lives
Message-ID: <1850cb60@[removed]>

Subscribers in the New York Metro area may be interesed in the following:

31st Annual Jean Shepherd Concert
31 May 96 Richardson Hall Princeton NJ 8 PM

To get tickets
1. Call box office 609-258-5000 with major credit card tickets $17 each
2. Send check made out to WPRB-FM 609-258-3655 with $1 per order surcharge to
   WPRB-FM
   Box 342
   Attn:Jean Shepherd Tickets
   Princeton Mew Jersey 08542

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tristan D. Lapoussiere" <lapousst@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: Re: cassette storage
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

> From: David Van Nostrand <davetv5@[removed]>
> To: otr@[removed]
> Subject: Cassette Storage
> Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
>
>         As a fellow radio show collector, I have come to a point in my
> collecting life where my collection in my closet.  Now I don't have to
> listen to Fibber McGee & Molly to here the closet. I just have to open mine
> and I get real live sound effect.  What do you store your collection 
in, on,
> around, etc.  Could someone out there tell me where to find great storage
> devices.  Also does anyone out there use a computer program to keep 
track of
> your shows.  If so, what do you use.

If you have a staircase in your home and are handy with tools, a great
idea is to turn the stairs into drawers. That saves a tremendous space.

Also, there's a supplies company called DEMCO which sells, among other
things, tape cases. You have a great variety of formats (from one to
twenty cassettes, with different choices of sleeves, etc). Ask your local
library if they have a catalog, since this company caters to libraries or
other collectivities. Their phone is 1-800-356-1200.

I personnaly don't use any program to keep track of my
shows. I just list my programs using Word.
The list is alphabetical and provides the reference number of the tape
the show is on. The tapes themselves are arranged by reference number.
Whenever I want to locate a show, I look it up on my list and find it
through the number. I guess that's the easiest way, and implies you can
actually line the tapes neatly in order. Since it doesn't seem to be your
case, I'd advise to sort them by genres or by title -if you don't have
'mixed'tapes- and just kinda remember where you put [removed]

Seriously, you could put shelves in your locker, and devise wooden boxes
just as high as a tape standing up. You just would have to draw the box
from the shelf and have a view of the 'spines' of the tape cases.
Also, you can use cereal boxes as a storage device (a standard cereal box
holds up to 24 tapes.)

Hope it's of any help.

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:08:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rhiman Rotz--IU Northwest <rrotz@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Two Minds of OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

	Charles Laughlin, I think you're probably right, although
I also think I probably have some of both mind-sets.  I think I'm
more like you in that what I seek is *radio* above all, and will
go to great lengths to pick up the BBC Play of the Week on Saturdays
on short wave [I bought a timer and tape recorder primarily because
about a year ago they shifted it to a less convenient time slot], and
am still working on a setup that will give me more listenable reception
of CBC Toronto, to a great extent because I hunger after their Sunday
night drama series.  The "theater of the mind" aspect is the big
attraction for me.
	Nevertheless I also was five years old in 1948 and the Lone
Ranger, which in my rational moments I have to admit is not usually
BBC-caliber drama, can still send thrills of excitement up my spine.
The chronologically "old" OTR has something the newer material doesn't,
and I don't know whether it's just nostalgia or also better use of the 
medium thanks to more experience.  So I don't listen to Chuck Schaden
on Saturday afternoons *solely* because old radio drama is almost the
only kind I can hear.  I'm a big Jack Benny and Fibber McGee & Molly
fan too, for example.
	But, anyway, it seems like there is a natural association 
between the truly "old" OTR and the rare examples of modern radio
non-news, non-music material; I think I only heard about "Blacklisted"
from this list, for example.  And if there are two minds, I'd hope the
just-"old" OTR people would continue to tolerate the more generic
radio people on this list.  Thanks to the policy so far, I've been
able to expand my knowledge and enjoyment of *both* old and new.
		-- Rhiman Rotz

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:01:34 -0400
From: CardiacRx@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!
Message-ID: <960429170133_524413891@[removed]>

To Chet & Robert:  Instead of parading your personal (non-OTR related, I
might add) views around in public like a couple of peacocks in heat, just
e-mail each other privately and let the rest of us talk about OTR, alright?
Yeeesh!!!

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On-the-topic-of-OTR-stuff:  In issue #154, Marty mentioned some late night
OTR shows out of Chicago on WMAQ.  I'm a couple of years removed from Chicago
and admit to missing the abundance of OTR that was available.  What I'd like
to know, from Marty or anyone else who might help, is what time does 'MAQ
broadcast during the week.  I'm on the east coast now, but 'MAQ comes in
solid late night, so here's to hoping that it's a late broadcast.  When I
left Chicago, it was 7 or 8pm on 'BBM, way too early to pick up in
Philadelphia.  Thanks for any info, all.  Also, thanks MUCH to everyone who
had info about The Shadow book I asked about last week.

Bob- (CardiacRx@[removed])

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:02:46 -0700
From: PETER GRECO <pgreco@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
CC: pgreco@[removed]
Subject: radio lists on computers
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi,
  In reference to Dave Van Nostrand question about keeping radio lists 
on [removed] use 'FIRST CHOICE'data base [removed] very easy to set
up and best of all easy to [removed] it you will be able to sort your 
programs by star,title,date or [removed] base is almost unlimited of 
what you can store on it,I have some 15,000 items stored right now 
between my radio,video and record collections
                                   pete .

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 01:31:01 PDT
From: Izi Mann <izi_mann@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: looking for some broadcasts 
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

---------------Original Message---------------

Hello,
Once again I ask you all if anybody knows where I can find the following 
recordings I have heard about, for my daily column "Radio Days" in Voice of 
Israel, trying to reflect major events and radio broadcast to commemorate 
100 years of radio.
1. Elvis Presley - first on-air appearance in WHBQ, when he thought it was a 


rehearsal but it was actually on air (does anybody know the address or 
e-mail of WHBQ, if the station exists?)
2. A recording of Alan Freed coining the term "rock 'n'roll" - I believe in 
1942 in WKST.
3. First baseball All-Star game, broadcast on NBC July 1933.
I'll appreciate any information that can lead me to the voices I mentioned.
Thanks,

Izi Mann
Voice of Israel
----------------------------
izi_mann@[removed]
Fri, 26 Apr 13:13 GMT+3



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Name: Izi Mann
E-mail: izi_mann@[removed]
Date: 04/27/96
Time: 22:47:13

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Name: Izi Mann
E-mail: izi_mann@[removed]
Date: 04/30/96
Time: 01:31:01

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:13:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rich Samuels <richsam@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Olan Soule/Grand Marquee
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Olan Soule died a year or so ago. I had occasion to do a videotape interview
with him (along with MacDonald Carey and Betty Lou Gerson) in the fall of
1989 for a show I was putting together on NBC/Chicago's move from the
Merchandise Mart (unfortunately, the Soule material was left on the cutting
room floor).
Olan was generally a romantic lead in his early years---both as the 'First
Nighter' on NBC (replacing Don Ameche, I believe); and as the principal male
character on the 'Bachelor's Children' soap  on CBS playing opposite
Mercedes McCambridge.
I still have a bunch of stuff he sent me regarding his career. His film
credits were extensive; and his commercial credits run a couple of pages.

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:45:48 -0400
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: clear cassette cases & supplies
Message-ID: <960429194547_524544147@[removed]>

Henry Hinkel wanted a source for clear cassette cases without hubs.  Check
with Polyline of Des Plaines IL.  They have a very wide selection of cassette
boxes, tapes, labels, etc. etc. etc.  If anyone has it, Polyline has it.
 This company supplies materials to major recording companies but they are
glad to do business with individuals as [removed]  They also have video, reel to
reel, DAT and CD supplies.  In fact, 3 different catalogs are available.
Write Polyline at 1233 Rand Road, Des Plaines, IL 60016
phone is 847-390-6464  fax 847-827-6851.
They pay me nothing for this mention, but I have had excellent service from
this company.

Bob Burnham  BRC Productions  platecap@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:01:48 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Olan Soule
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:52:08
Jim Yellen wrote:
>	Thanks to Frank Passage for the Log of Grand Marquee. I find this 
>romantic comedy show amusing and now know that there are alot more shows then 
>the dozen or so that I have.
>	It's hard to imagine Olan Soule as a romantic lead. Especially after 
>seeing him as the nerdy criminologist on the revival (in color) of Dragnet.
>	Does anyone know if he's still alive?
>

Sad to say, Olan Soule died Feb 1, 1994 at age 81 in Corona, CA.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          
AOL: JimWidner                            

                                                 

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:10:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Kinsler <kinsler@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: fishola <nchieffe1@[removed]>
Subject: Imagination Theater and Hopalong Cassidy
Message-Id: <[removed]@bobcat>

I just took a trip to Pittsburgh and back and have heard more radio drama 
from the Econoline's radio than I've heard in years.  
  KQV, an ancient Pittsburgh all-news station (1410 khz and about two and
a half watts) runs something called "Imagination Theater" (if I've got the
name right) on Sundays at 8:06 pm.  This consists of two thirty-minute
dramas produced, they say, before a live audience in Seattle or somewhere. 
The guy's name is Jim(?) French and the story I heard, entitled "A Woman's
Work Is Never Done", was good enough to scare the hell out of me whilst I
drove up Saw Mill Run Blvd through Pittsburgh's South Hills last night. 
They did an excellent job.  I don't have any idea how old these shows are,
but they're offered on CD as well. 
  Then, on my way back today, I went through Cambridge, Ohio and listened 
as usual to WILE, a new FM station that plays an elderly oldies format at 
[removed] Mhz.  It turns out that they're having a Hopalong Cassidy festival 
in Cambridge next month, and thus WILE is running old Hopalong Cassidy 
radio shows every day at 4 pm until the festival's done.  Ol' Hoppy did 
one crummy radio show, I must say.  He and his comical sidekick 
California (whom I don't remember from the TV show, but what the hell) 
were initially intercepted on the trail by a posse, who was going to hang 
the pair of them.  That at least would have been interesting, but they 
unfortunately talked their way out of it.  The posse was made up of 
characters who sounded exactly like Amos and Andy--whoever used to say 
"Holy Mackerel, Kingfish" was apparently playing the deputy sheriff and 
forgot what show he was reading.  But it was fun to listen to.  
  Oh:  The reason for the Hopalong Cassidy Festival was that William Boyd 
came from Cambridge, Ohio.  
                                  Mark Kinsler
                                   riding the trail in The
                                   Beloved 1964 Econoline Van

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:16:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwavesOTR <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Shep Web Page (#2102 AIRWAVES RADIO JOURNAL0 (fwd)
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Here's another Jean Shepherd Web page.  I can't wait til I can get back 
on the web.

> Subject: Jean Shepherd Web Page
> From: jsadur@[removed] (Jim Sadur)
> Organization: Intercall Inc.
> 
> 
> 
> Check out my  new Jean Shepherd page.  For those of you who don't
> know, Jean Shepherd is a humorist & writer whose stories on radio, TV
> and film have entertained us for years.
> 
> 
>     [removed]~[removed]
> 
> 
> Excelsior you fatheads!
> 
> -----------------------------------
> Jim
> email:  jsadur@[removed]
> WWW:    [removed]~jsadur
> -----------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:52:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: MAX SCHMID <mschmid@[removed]>
To: airwavesOTR <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: 
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Mon, 29 Apr 1996 Victoria Yellen wrote:
> 
> 	Does anyone have any information about a show called CAPE COD MYSTERY 
> THEATER?
> 	I know it's not strictly OTR, but it's in the tradition. I'm wondering 
> when it was originally on and where. It sounds like the 70s or 80s to me. And 
> it sounds like a Public Radio show since each show is a different length. 
> Only Public Radio, or listener sponsored radio, would be so casual about 
> program scheduling.
> 
Just some thoughts on the last line, and please don't takes these 
comments as being antagonistic; that's not where I'm coming from.
Why should a radio drama be locked into a specific time frame?  Novels,
short stories, movies, etc. come in all lengths - enough to tell the story.
While it is convenient to have material fit in neat little slots, I feel it
Doesn't necessarily serve the content.
	A prime example, IMHO, is Himan Brown's Mystery Theatre.  A whole 
lot of these shows sounded very dull to me, short ideas that had to be	
padded out to fill the 50 minutes or so of program content required by the 
format.
	On a related topic, as an OTR programmer, let me tell you how 
difficult it is to play complete OTR shows in a 90" format (which is 
supposed to be no more than 88 minutes).  No one likes to have 
commercials or any other part of the original shows cut.  You have 
to scrounge to find 25" shows, AFRS (pre-cut) shows, or play excerpts of
variety programs.  And this barely leaves time for intros and announcements.
A 90" OTR show becomes 2 half hours, a serial, and padding without the use
of odd-length material.
	This leads me to a question I've often wondered about: As 
obsessed as I have to be with program length, I've often found network 
programs that time out at over 30 minutes.  How did this effect the broadcast
schedule?  Were these shows cut off at the network level, or was the start 
of the following show delayed until Fred Allen or whoever get off the air?
Anyone know about this?
	-Max Schmid  Golden Age of Radio
One more note to NYC area listeners who may have missed Sunday's show-
The Golden Age is pre-empted for a ridiculous 3 weeks, to return on May
26 (assuming they don't extend the fund drive).  Happy Cinco de Mayo!  I 
will have another Orson Welles on Radio Special on Wednesday May 22, 7:30 pm 
to 6 AM featuring an all new, all different line-up.  Try to remember.  
I'll be doing more OTR on Mass Backwards in the meantime, so set your 
VCRs (Monday night into Tuesday mornings 3:30 to 6 am.  Current weekly 
features are: a random OTR horror show, Ruby 4 from ZBS, Here's (Henry) 
Morgan from 1941, and Jean Shepherd. Coming soon (maybe next week) the 
most recent Dr. Who serial from the BBC.  And less music, which should 
make some of you very happy.
	I'll alert you to all the June pre-emptions as they come in.  And I
thought moving to Sunday was such a great idea. 

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:29:06 -0500 (EST)
From: FINV@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jean Shepard
Message-id: <01I45DYYKYHU8XEHRT@[removed]>

   Could not find Jean Shepard information @

   [removed]~[removed]

   Please advise.

   Flora Ignacious Nina Vita

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