Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #88
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 2/25/2003 9:03 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 88
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Atwater Kent                          [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Fransis Farmer radio appearances      [ vigor16@[removed] ]
      Buck Jones and the Coconut Grove fir  [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
      Re: Cornell Woolrich                  [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
      Re: Cocoanut Grove Nightclub Fire     [ malamb@[removed] ]
      Al Fields on WORDS AT WAR             [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      The Ride Back                         [ Philipmarus@[removed] ]
      Founding of CBS stories               [ mart459@[removed] ]
      Re: In The Bedroom with A&A           [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      The Goldbergs                         [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Re: FM Transmitter                    [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
      The Radio Song                        [ BH <radioguy@[removed]; ]
      Radio Song Lyrcis                     [ "welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
      "Never stops being funny!"            [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
      Old Jokes Never Die                   [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      2-25 Birthdays                        [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Re: Adventures of Babe Ruth           [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      The Lone Ranger's horse               [ "William Halbe" <[removed]@veri ]

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:28:26 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Atwater Kent

    Rodney Bowcock asked if  $[removed] was a good price for a Atwater Kent
    model 976 console radio. While I'm not an expert and I'm not even
    familiar with that particular model, the price sounds a little high.
    But if its something you really want I'd make an offer on it if I were
    you.
    You say it appears to be in good shape.  Is that just the cabinet your
    talking about? You said it"seems to be fully working".  Have you
    listened to the radio for any length of time?  Try tuning it to
    different stations to see if it brings in all of the stations that you
    usually listen to. Most importantly listen for noises coming thru the
    speaker like static in the background or squeaky type noises that change
    in pitch and intensity.

    Old radios can be a fire danger and should be completely gone thru to
    replace old parts such as capacitors.  This can be somewhat expensive
    assuming you can find someone in your area that can do this kind of
    work.
    Unless they can show you that this radio has been completely updated,
    I'd be hesitant to pay more thatn $[removed] to $[removed] for it knowing that
    I 'd probably have to spend another $[removed] to $[removed] to a radio
    technician.
    My" ten" year old Old Radio Price Guide shows prices ranging from
    $[removed] to $[removed] for Atwater Kent consoles from the mid 30's.  Model
    976 is not listed.

    I hope that this is some help and that I haven't scared you out of
    trying to find an old radio.  It's a fun hobby and great to listen to
    OTR on.

    George Aust

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:21:24 -0500
    From: vigor16@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fransis Farmer radio appearances

    Hi all,

    I have been looking for a place to find credits for Fransis Farmer on
    OTR.  I have one episode of LRT "Brittish agent".  I haven't seen too
    much out there.  Are there any other things out there that show her
    acting talent.  I read something this morning that said, again, she was a
    great actress, but haven't really seen her in anything except for that
    one Lux show, which isn't a bad show.  Are there any other OTR items that
    feature her acting talents.  Unfortunately, the only thing I hear is
    about her mental illness.  Appearently, an emotional or mental thing
    blots out all that go before.  I saw A&E doing Connie Francis the other
    night and, as I thought, her terrible experience, that should happen to
    no one, was the main focus of the program.

    Thanks,

    Deric

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:51:40 -0500
    From: Osborneam@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Buck Jones and the Coconut Grove fire

    james h arva <wilditralian@[removed]; wrote:

>     famous cowboy movie star Buck Jones, who was a strong supporter of physical
>     fitness for children.  He had escaped to safety, but went back inside to
>     assist others and, in one of those trips back into the flames, was mortally
>     injured,

    This appears to be an urban legend.  You can read more
    about the Coconut Grove Controversy (and what investigation appears to have
    unearthed) at:
    [removed]

    Arlene Osborne

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:12:53 -0500
    From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Cornell Woolrich

    I should point out that Martin notes that Woolrich had no stories adapted
    into episodes of The Whistler.  I had erroniosly reported that some
    Woolrich stories had been done on that show in a recent essay.  My public
    apologies for the spreading of falsehoods in the hobby.  *sigh*

    Rodney Bowcock
    Past Tense Productions "Classic movies and TV for $7"

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:13:31 -0500
    From: malamb@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Cocoanut Grove Nightclub Fire

    On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     I had heard that the building owner was Barbara Walters'
>     father, but I have never verified that, so I would have to present it as
>     a rumor.

    According to a story in the February 22nd online edition of the Boston
    Globe, the owner of the Cocoanut Grove was Barnett Welansky.  The article
    also mentions that Welansky was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter
    because he had previously locked doors and blocked exits; a fire door had
    been welded shut to keep patrons from leaving without paying.  The story
    was also on page B11 of the February 22nd print edition of the Globe.
    The club that Lou Walters owned in Boston was the Latin Quarter, and he
    later opened clubs with the same name in New York and Miami Beach.

    Hope this helps,

    Marie Lamb

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:14:01 -0500
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Al Fields on WORDS AT WAR

    I very much appreciated Al Fields generous comments about Words At War.
    Mr. Fields commented that it was unlikely  that a BBC engineer
    visited Berlin in 1942 to attend a radio conference. I'll forego the
    temptation to try to argue that the (very young) Gassman brothers and Jay
    Hickerson were running a joint FOTR/SPERDVAC radio conference which
    consequently would tempt any of us to attend even at the risk of arrest
    by the Gestapo.

    Fields is quite correct. Since Britain came into the war in the fall of
    1939, the conference had to precede 1939.  I can't find my notes for that
    chapter right now.  But I'll check it out tomorrow.

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:14:20 -0500
    From: Philipmarus@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Ride Back
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    I purchased "The Ride Back" several years ago on VHS. I too wish the GUNSMOKE
    radio episode on which the this screenplay is based would turn up. I remember
    thinking while watching William Conrad in the video Ride Back, Conrad here
    appears as a more tired, pushed to the edge marshall [removed]
    technically he's playing a different character here although its based on the
    radio play. It excellent viewing for any fan of Conrad.

    Mike Kerezman Jr

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:56:34 -0500
    From: mart459@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Founding of CBS stories

    Hi All;

    I just got off of the telephone with Dad, and as usual he dropped a couple of
    things on me that I didn't know about the family. Apparenty one of Dad's
    cousins was there at the very beginning of CBS, and there were some
    interesting stories. If you want to email me for Dad;s phone number or mail
    address  (Westchester,NY) I can pass it along to you (he does not
    [removed])(And loves to talk - I have his permission to hand out the phone
    number)

    Several times he has been asked to write his memiors, from being on Patton's
    staff, the rescue of the lipizzan horses, using up all of the penicillan in
    the third army, designing the first solid state production line in the US,
    the marketing of the Microwave, the first "portable" video camera, the very
    first spy sat, the first GPS sat, turning down the highest french medal of
    honor during WWII (the story is a scream), the first walkman amp (actually a
    hearing aide amp), working for Sarnoff, etc. Yeah - larger than life.

    Anyway - he also was responsible for the first production solid state radio
    in the US. A raytheon model that had transistors soldered into modules that
    plugged into vacuum tube holes. A proof of concept design. After all, anyone
    with sense back then new that transistors would never replace the [removed]
    (or so management told him)(I have one sitting in my famiy room - about the
    size of an 80's boombox)

    Jon Martin
    mart459@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:57:56 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: In The Bedroom with A&A

    On 2/24/03 7:37 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     In reading his chapter on Gosden and Correll about how they met and
>     formed an instant and strong friendship and how they lived together for
>     several years, I remember blurting out loud while reading in bed "My
>     God, Amos and Andy were gay"!: )

>     Now I'm not for a minute suggesting that this is true, but I am
>     wondering if anybody else got the same impression from reading this
>     book.

    Well, I think I've mentioned before that before Amos got married in 1935,
    he and Andy not only roomed together, they shared the same bed. Every now
    and then, an episode would find them getting undressed, putting on their
    nightgowns, climbing into bed together, and lying awake in the dark,
    discussing their problems. In one serial episode, Andy laments to the
    Kingfish that living with Amos is just like living with a woman -- and in
    several episodes spread over over the serial run, Amos and Andy put their
    arms around each other and declare that that they love each other.

    The armchair revisionists might have a field day interpreting this one,
    if they weren't already busy exploring the hidden overtones in the
    relationship between Jack Benny and Rochester.

    In reality, of course, Correll and Gosden intended no sexual overtones of
    any kind in their portrayal of Amos and Andy's relationship. It was,
    however, a fairly close paralell of their *own* relationship -- they did
    live together for several years, and after they both got married in 1927,
    the two couples lived in the same apartment building for as long as they
    were in Chicago. But at the same time, they knew that too much time
    together could be dangerous -- and they made a point of going their
    separate ways after each day's work was done.

    They had a friendship built on the fact that they were totally
    complementary to each other -- Gosden was a driven, energetic
    perfectionist -- who, on a personal level, was extremely shy, a
    characteristic many misinterpreted as distant aloofness, especially since
    he really hated the show-business social scene.  Correll, on the other
    hand, was an easy-going, fun-loving man, who wore snappy clothes and
    loved to go to parties. Each knew the other's limits -- and each brought
    qualities to the partnership that the other lacked. Gosden looked at
    Correll as an older brother, someone he could talk to and confide in --
    and Correll was genuinely in awe of Gosden,  acknowledging that "if it
    wasn't for him, I'd still be in Peoria laying bricks." The result was
    perhaps the most harmonious collaboration in 20th-century show business
    history. There was never any suggestion that the two ever fought, ever
    argued, or ever even thought for a second of breaking up.

    Gosden himself summed up the relationship best, following Correll's death
    in 1972. "We were partners for 37 years," he said, "and friends for
    fifty. In all that time we never once exchanged an unkind word."

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:48:04 -0500
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Goldbergs

     Someone is looking to put on a live performance or two from The
    Goldbergs.  They are looking for some  episodes with a healthy dolyp of
    antifascist /anti Nazi propaganda.  Does anyone have some suggestions?

     Howard Blue

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:48:30 -0500
    From: Shenbarger@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: FM Transmitter
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    In a message dated 2/24/2003 11:45:10 AM Central Standard Time, Walden Hughes
    writes:

    Hi Everybody, does any one know where I can buy a FM transmitter in order to
    replay OTR and my broadcast through out my house?  Take care,

    I bought a SoundFeeder SF120 at Best Buy for $20. It is adjustable across the
    entire FM band and broadcasts in stereo. It's not very flexible as to
    location, but once setup, it does work and at that price it's remarkable. It
    runs on a single AA battery, which could be a rechargeable type NiMH to save
    some money, and plugs into the headphone jack on any walkman, CD player, etc.
    I have been told this item, or something similar, is available from Radio
    Shack.

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:58:37 -0500
    From: BH <radioguy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Radio Song

    "welsa" <welsa@[removed]; writes:

>     I've been listening to a recording of Bob Marcus' ditty called RADIO.  I'm
>     not sure who is even singing it.  I've  been trying to make out the lyrics.
>     Below is what I have so far.  But where there is a line drawn, I can't make
>     it out.
>     Can anyone here help with the missing lyrics?

    The recording I have was done by Banu Gibson, a jazz singer, while
    in New Orleans, I am guessing sometime around 1981. A very cute
    little song about radio daze gone by.

    Here is what I have.

      Radio - Remember radio?

      We'd sit and close our eyes

      And use our imagination.

      Comedy, mystery, a fireside chat,

      Together we sat list'ning nightly

      To our favorite show.

      Radio. Why did you ever go?

      Oh, won't you please come back

      And entertain us.

      Oh, I long to turn the dial again

      To hear the past and smile again.

      Radio, I miss you so.

      Major Bowes.

      I miss "the Shadow knows."

      Fred's Allen's Alley woes(? not to sure of this last word)

      The laughter of Duffy's Tavern.

      Helen Trent. Then we went

      To Can You Top This

      Suspense and The Whistler sent those shivers

      Up our spine.

      Uncle Don, I wish that you were on,

      Jack Armstrong, Myrt & Marge,

      Amos 'n Andy.

      Oh, I long to turn that dial again,

      To hear the past and smile again.

      Radio, I miss you so

      bodeo, bodeo, dodeo do

      Radio, I miss you soooo.

    Bill H.

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    Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:58:51 -0500
    From: "welsa" <welsa@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Song Lyrcis

    Here are the complete lyrics to the Radio song:

    Radio. Remember radio?

    We'd sit and close our eyes

    And use our imagination.

    Comedy, mystery, a fireside chat,

    Together we sat listening nightly

    To our favorite show.

    Radio. Where did you ever go?

    Oh, won't you please come back

    And entertain us.

    I long to turn the dial again

    To hear the past and smile again.

    Radio, I miss you so.

    Radio. Why did you ever go?

    Oh, won't you please come back

    And entertain us.

    Oh, I long to turn the dial again

    To hear the past and smile again.

    Radio, I miss you so.

    Major Bowes.

    I miss "the Shadow knows."

    Fred Allen's Alley folk,

    The laughter of Duffy's Tavern.

    Helen Trent. Then we went

    To "Can You Top This?"

    Suspense and The Whistler

    Sent those shivers up our spine.

    Uncle Don, I wish that you were on,

    Jack Armstrong, Myrt & Marge,

    Amos 'n Andy.

    I long to turn that dial again,

    To hear the past and smile again.

    Radio, I miss you so.

    Oh, voh-dee-oh-doh

    Radio, I miss you so.

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    Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:57:39 -0500
    From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Never stops being funny!"

    Hi Gang:

       A couple of issues ago, I asked for subscribers' recommendations for
    recurring OTR  routines that "never stop being funny." Well, I went back and
    devised my own personal Top Ten. This list is not necessarily set "in stone"
    (Hal, Ezra, Lewis, or otherwise). I'm open for suggestions. Enjoy!

    In ascending order:

    10) LIFEBUOY SOAP ADS: that "[removed]!" foghorn sound effect is always good for a
    cheap laugh.

    9) DRAGNET [OK, it's not a comedy & I'm probably the only one who sees the
    humour in this one]: Friday & Romero (or Smith) are interrogating a suspect
    who vows he "won't talk." The detectives make him crack by carrying on an
    annoying conversation such as:
    a) one cop tries to teach the other a new card game with ponderously
    complicated rules;
    b) sending out for sandwiches & over-praising their merits.

    8) FIBBER McGEE & MOLLY: the aforementioned schtick about Wallace Wimple & his
    favourite reading material, his beloved "bird book," & how Fibber & Co. would
    "milk" this gag in order to get Bill Thompson to repeat the phrase "bird
    book," complete with the bubbling effect in his voice.

    7) THE EDDIE CANTOR SHOW: Eddie would say something uncomplimentary, &, on
    cue, Bert "The Mad Russian" Gordon would enter with his memorable greeting
    "How do you DOO!" [This was similarly employed on DUFFY'S [removed]
    Finnegan would walk in with "Well, hello, Arch." Years later on t--------n,
    Bob Denver/"Maynard G. Krebs" would walk in on DOBIE GILLIS with his greeting,
    "You rang?"]

    6) THE JACK BENNY SHOW: When Jack & Co. were in a train station, we'd usually
    get a) Frank Nelson as the insolent ticket clerk saying "Yyesss!,"
    AND b) Mel Blanc announcing the trains "Leaving for Anaheim, Azusa, and
    [removed]"

    5) THE JIMMY DURANTE SHOW: Whenever vocal magician Candy Candido switched
    octaves in the middle of a sentence going from a 5-year old boy to a basso
    profundo intoning "I'm feeling mighty low!"

    4) THE ABBOTT & COSTELLO SHOW: "Who's on First?" [Need I say more?].

    3) THE FRED ALLEN SHOW: the "Allen's Alley"  segment  never got stale.

    2) THE JACK BENNY SHOW: Jack & Mel Blanc as Sy, the Mexican, performing
    "Si-Sy-Sue;" it's even funnier when Jack himself can't keep from laughing.

    and the #1 OTR radio routine which "never stops being funny:"

    1) FIBBER McGEE & MOLLY: "McGee, don't open that closet [CRASH!] door!"

        Additions? Subtractions? Agreements? Detractions?

    Yours in the ether!

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:59:32 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Old Jokes Never Die

    Don Frey, speaking of Derek Tague's interest in OTR humor that doesn't
    lose its bloom with age mentioned specific incidents within series shows.

    There are two standout examples from the Phil Harris - Alice Faye show.
    The last half of one episode has Julius Abruzzio asking Phil and Frankie
    help him by serenading him and the girl he was in love with as they
    strolled by in the park one evening.  The girl, running a party was busy
    and asked Julius to walk her dog.  Speculating on what sort of girl
    Julius would fall for, the concealed musical pair overhear Julius
    speaking to the dog, and think it's the girl.  Another was when Phil
    decides he needs a car trailer and Remley gets him plans -- blueprints --
    to build one from.  Of course, the plans were drawn up by a manufacturer
    of caskets, and the resulting six-walled trailer was only about two yards
    long and had a lid.  Naturally, they had Julius try it out.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:57:02 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  2-25 Birthdays

    If you were born on the 25th of February, you share your birthday with:

    1901 - Zeppo Marx - New York City
    1904 - Marion Claire - Chicago, Illinois
    1913 - Jim Backus - Cleveland, Ohio
    1921 - Patricia Ryan - London, England
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Make your day, listen to an Olde Tyme Radio Program

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    Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:58:36 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:  Adventures of Babe Ruth

    Jean asks about the Adventures of Babe Ruth.  Dunning has the show
    running April 16--July 13, 1934 on NBC Blue; April 14--July 9, 1937 on
    CBS; June 5--July 10 on NBC; and August 28--November 20, 1943 / July
    8--October 21, 1944 on NBC.  Only the 1934 shows were called The
    Adventures of Babe Ruth; the others were just Babe Ruth.

    Having said that, let me also say that I have heard the Dusty Collins
    episode, and I wonder if it is from ANY of the above-listed series.  In
    those shows, Ruth played himself (and much of the run used a quiz show
    format).  In the Dusty Collins episode, I'm pretty sure an actor is
    portraying Ruth (Babe Ruth had a halting, gravelly voice; this Ruth was
    smooth and clear).  Also, from the intro I get the feeling that Ruth had
    already died when this show ran.  And Ruth died in August 1948, several
    years after the Ruth shows ran.

    So the new question is, what show presented this Dusty Collins story?

    ---Dan

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    Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:28:52 -0500
    From: "William Halbe" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Lone Ranger's horse
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    Some years back I heard a Lone Ranger episode in which the Ranger rode a horse
    called "Dusty"  In the story Dusty dies or is killed. Then by chance he found
    Silver and the rest is history.
    Does anyone know the title or date of this episode and where I could get (buy)
    a copy?

    Bill Halbe

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