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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 379
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Good words for [removed] [ "Ted Kneebone"
<tkneebone1@[removed] ]
Amos 'n' Andy Queries [ Jandpgardner@[removed] ]
Cisco Kid - XMAS Program [ Rutledge Mann
<cliff_marsland@yahoo ]
TV mentioned on old-time radio [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
Charles/Chuck Webster Not Synonymous [ "WILLIS G Saunders"
<saunders8@veri ]
12-10 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles
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ADMINISTRIVIA:
I would appreciate it if folks with high-speed connections who are
willing to help out bandwidth-wise distributing some OTR programs
would contact me at charlie@[removed] - thanks! --cfs3
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:30:33 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Good words for [removed]
In a recent email from Jana Doiron of Montreal, she had nice things to say
about us. I have asked her permission to quote from her thank you note of
12/7/05:
[I had provided her with a cassette of "The White Christmas of Archie
Nicotine" from CBC radio.]
"I am so happy that you sent me the tape. Hats off to you. I've
written 2 different departments of the CBC and no one has been able to
give
me any information on Archie Nicotine. So I decided to search the
internet -- and to my surprise found your website -- and no where else was
I
to find any information on this tape. You and other radio traders are
providing what to me is a cultural heritage museum. It truly feels like
time traveling." [She also commented that it seems strange that one of
Canada's leading authors, W. O. Mitchell, the author of "[removed]" was
not
even recognized by the CBC.]
It's nice to be called "a cultural heritage museum", in view of the
fact
that the networks do little to preserve their own history.
Ted Kneebone. OTR website: [removed]
Democrats: [removed]
1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / Phone: 605-226-3344
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:51:38 -0500
From: Jandpgardner@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Amos 'n' Andy Queries
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I have been listening to an episode of the Amos 'n' Andy Show and am
unable
to find the correct date for it. The date given on the CD I have is June
7,
1946, which is clearly wrong. The title is stated to be "The Invention"
and
the
story concerns an invention by the Kingfish's brother-in-law Leroy of a
new
kind of lock.
I have looked at Jerry Haendiges' excellent log and the only reference to
an
episode regarding an invention that I can see is #141 on May 13, 1947 with
the title "Leroy's Lock Invention" and in the log on David Goldin's site I
can
only see an episode on the same date that is called "Inventing Lock Show".
That seems to be an end to it - but NO! The show I have been listening to
cannot be from 1947. Although the sponsor is Rinso, there are references
to
"1950
Rinso" and the show is not on NBC on a Tuesday but on CBS on a Sunday,
with
several mentions of that day. The show only started on CBS in October
1948
where it was always heard on Sundays. The announcer is John Lake and, at
the
end, in addition to a commercial for Lifebuoy Soap, there is also a
request
for
donations to be made to the Community Chest. That is something we don't
have
here in England but I believe that it may be particularly appropriate at
this
time of the year in the [removed]
So, was the story of the lock invention also on CBS, probably in late 1949
or 1950? If so, I can't see any reference to it in the logs I have
consulted.
I know that Jerry's log was prepared with the assistance of Elizabeth
McCleod. I was very pleased to be at her excellent presentation at FOTR a
few
weeks ago and I saw her reply regarding the "Thanksgiving Turkey" episode
a
few
days ago, that answered the question of the date when that was broadcast
in
November 1949. However David Goldin also gives the same plot summary for
the
Thanksgiving broadcast the following year aired on November 20, 1950, the
only
difference seeming to be that the announcer then was Ken Niles while it
was
Ken Carpenter in 1949. I am therefore wondering if the Thanksgiving
script
from
November 1949 was repeated in November 1950.
Best wishes to all for Christmas.
John.
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:17:16 -0500
From: Rutledge Mann <cliff_marsland@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cisco Kid - XMAS Program
Is Cisco Kid - "A Present For Joey" (no number) in
circulation? I can't find it among online resources.
It's among some discs that haven't been dubbed yet.
This seems to have been a theme for Ziv to have a
Christmas program in the shows, I've been it in Boston
Blackie too. Kind of surprising there wasn't one for
Philo Vance.
Trav
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 23:18:04 -0500
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: TV mentioned on old-time radio
Mark Kinsler wrote:
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: when will we be on TV?
Though just thinking about the advent of television causes pain to many
of
us (Kathy O'Connell once said that her KidsAmerica show was 'far too
advanced' for TV) it seems to me that TV was anticipated for much, if not
all, of the Golden Age of Radio.
There were "visual broadcasting stations" operating in the US as far
back as the 1920s and some people felt from the start that sound radio
was merely the first step toward creation of a medium that shows us the
world the way most people observe it.
An editorial in the July, 1935 edition of Radio News states that RCA
("after six years of effort") would be ready to place Television on the
market within 15 months. It goes on to cite David Sarnoff that, "while
Television promises to supplement the present service of broadcast by
adding sight to sound, it will neither supplant nor diminish the
importance and usefulness of sound broadcast."
I was surprised to hear it mentioned on several shows, but I don't recall
which ones. Does anyone know when TV, or the possibility of TV,
mentioned
on radio shows?
Speakers on the Carnegie Hall gala that inaugurated WOR's 50,000-watt
transmitter in 1935 spoke of the inevitability of Television (and
accented the word on the third syllable).
Of course it would take another six years before the FCC would approve
TV for commercial operation, and its growth would have to await the
conclusion of World War II. But then, since it was the exciting new
thing there was a lot of mention. Of course, many parts of the nation
didn't yet have television - now spelled without a capital T. A plug for
one sponsor's television series opened with the words, "If you live in
one of our television [removed]"
Television shows up on many radio programs. I was once keeping an index
of all the mentions of TV on radio in the early days, but I can't find
it now. I do remember a "Great Gildersleeve" show from around 1948 where
the family has purchased its first TV set and Gildy must settle a
dispute between Leroy, who wants to watch a wrestling match, and
Marjorie, who wants to see a puppet show. Wrestling and puppets were
almost the only thing on television in those days. Radio was still more
entertaining.
--Bill Jaker
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 23:18:43 -0500
From: "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Charles/Chuck Webster Not Synonymous
Hi, Folks,
Near the end of November, 2005, some erroneous information got on OTR
Digest
that I may've been partially responsible for. About a year ago, I was
lookilng for "A Christmas Carol", starring Alfred Shirley and featuring
Charles (not Chuck) Webster as Jacob Marley.
The way I typed it may have confused some people. I didn't mean to imply
that Charles and Chuck Webster were the same people. They definitely are
not. Charles Webster worked out of New York, appearilng in "The Shadow"
programs, starring Orson Welles, often playing the role of a distinguished
scientist and humanitarian.
kChuck worked out of kDetroit in the 1930's, often appearing on "The Lone
Ranger", often as either a sheriff or a villain. He also played the
"heavy"
on "The green Hornet." He came to New York in the 1940's, where he added
to
his rrepertory by playing cops, crooks, private detectives, and other
types
of good guys.
Sorry for the confusion I may have accidentally caused. My computer
needed
repair, so I'm trying to rectify this as soon as soon as I possibly can.
Incidentally, I'm still looking for the Alfred Shirley version of "A
Christmas Carol."
Happy holidays to all of you and to all of yours.
Buck Saunders
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:49:56 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 12-10 births/deaths
December 10th births
12-10-1889 - Arthur Vinton - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-26-1963
actor: Killer Kane "Buck Rogers"; Commissioner Weston "The Shadow"
12-10-1889 - Ray Collins - Sacramento, CA - d. 7-11-1965
actor: Doc Will Hackett, "County Seat"; member of The Mercury Theatre
12-10-1903 - Una Merkel - Covington, KY - d. 1-2-1986
actress: Adeline Fairchild "Great Gildersleeve"; "Johnny Presents";
"Texaxo
Star Theatre"
12-10-1908 - Bill Spargrove - d. 9-xx-1984
announcer: "Hollywood Byline"
12-10-1911 - Chet Huntley - Cardwell, CO - d. 3-20-1974
newscaster, producer: "They Burned the Books"
12-10-1913 - Morton Gould - Richmond Hill, NY - d. 2-21-1996
conductor: "Music for Today"; "Original Amateur Hour"; "Cresta Blanca
Carnival"
12-10-1914 - Dorothy Lamour - New Orleans, LA - d. 9-21-1996
singer, actress: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Front and Center"; "Sealtest
Variety Show"
12-10-1914 - Jean Dickenson - Montreal, Canada
singer: (Nightingale of the Airwaves) "American Album of Familiar Music";
"Hollywood Hotel"
12-10-1919 - Alexander Courage - Philadelphia, PA
music: "Broadway Is My Beat"; "Hollywood Soundstage"; "Romance"
12-10-1920 - Dennis Morgan - Prentice, WI - d. 9-7-1994
actor, singer: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Screen Guild
Theatre"
12-10-1946 - Chris Tarrant - Reading, England
writer, presenter: "Tiswas"; "OTT"
12-10-1960 - Kenneth Branagh - Belfast, North Ireland
actor: Renaissance Theatre Company in association with BBC Radio Drama
December 10th deaths
02-02-1901 - Jascha Heifetz - Vilnius, Lithuania - d. 12-10-1987
classical violinist: "Telephone Hour"; "Soldiers in Greaspaint"; "Concert
Hall"
02-25-1932 - Faron Young - Shreveport, LA - d. 12-10-1996
country singer: "Town and Country Time"; "Country Style [removed]"; "Country
Hoedown"
03-14-1869 - Algernon Blackwood - d. 12-10-1951
author: "Escape"
03-26-1907 - Leigh Harline - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 12-10-1969
music: "Eddie Bracken Show"; "Ford Festival of American Music"
05-05-1899 - Freeman F. Gosden - Richmond, VA - d. 12-10-1982
comedian: "Sam 'n' Henry"; Amos Jones "Amos 'n' Andy"
05-08-1895 - Bishop Fulton J. Sheen - El Paso, IL - d. 12-10-1979
preacher: "Catholic Hour"
06-13-1894 - Mark Van Doren - Hope, IL - d. 12-10-1972
pulitzer prize winning poet: "NBC University Theatre"; "Invitation to
Learning"
07-15-1919 - Eve McVeagh - Ohio - d. 12-10-1997
actress: Harriet Beatty "Clyde Beatty Show"
07-19-1913 - Charlie Teagarden - Vernon, TX - d. 12-10-1984
trumpet: (Brother of Jack) "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street"
08-02-1892 - John Kieran - The Bronx, NY, New - d. 12-10-1980
panelist: "Information, Please"
08-02-1912 - Ann Dvorak - New York, NY - d. 12-10-1979 - d. 12-10-1979
actress: "Movietone Radio Theatre"
08-05-1915 - Peter Lisagor - Keystone, WV - d. 12-10-1976
chicago daily news [removed] bureau chief: "Meet the Press"
08-26-1907 - Jack Berch - Sigel, IL - d. 12-10-1992
singer: "Kitchen Pirate"; "Sweetheart Serenade"; "Jack Berch Show"
09-26-1908 - Sylvia Marlowe - New York, NY - d. 12-10-1981
harpsichord virtuoso: "Lavender and New Lace"; "Sylvia Marlowe and Richard
Dyer-Bennet"
10-04-1884 - Damon Runyon - Manhattan, KS - d. 12-10-1946
short story writer: "Good News of 1940"; "Damon Runyon Theatre"
10-13-1903 - Patsy Moran - Pennsylvania - d. 12-10-1968
actress: Martha Hoople "Major Hoople"; Hilda "Junior Miss"
12-11-1914 - Marie Windsor - Marysville, UT - d. 12-10-2000
actress: "Escape"; "Suspense"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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