Subject: [removed] Digest V2011 #128
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Date: 8/10/2011 10:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2011 : Issue 128
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Conventions                       [ Bryan Wright <bryan@[removed]; ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed]; ]
      8-9 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      8-10 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:56:38 -0400
    From: Bryan Wright <bryan@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Conventions

    Just to follow-up on a few comments from Rick [removed]

> >     it can be a tough sell to ask a young person to put all that aside
> >     and
> >     learn enough about the entertainment scene of the 1940s to be able to
> >     understand and appreciate the gags and references on the Fred Allen
> >     or Jack
> >     Benny shows, for example.

>     True. However, there's no reason why a modern-day audio adventure
>     with a
>     character like Jack Benny's on-air persona couldn't work today. As I
>     said in
>     my newspaper article about timeless radio shows (contact me off list
>     for a
>     PDF copy), "there will always be vain people or skinflints."

    I agree! I think that Jack Benny and "The Shadow" have held up as well
    as they have because they do have a certain timelessness at their
    core. The characters are still relatable, and I don't doubt that
    modern adaptations could be made to work. (I recently saw the 1990s
    "Shadow" film with Alec Baldwin -- and what about the movie version of
    "The Green Hornet" that came out earlier this year?) My point was that
    the original programs -- as they are -- are going to have a more and
    more difficult time attracting new fans into the 21st century. As a
    child, I often preferred mystery programs to comedies because  many of
    the popular comedies had so many dated references that I didn't
    understand. Jokes on Jack Benny's program about Frank Sinatra's thin
    figure ("I just ate a raisin and boy am I stuffed!") or the LSMFT song
    parodies just aren't as funny when you don't know who Sinatra was or
    the original songs being parodied. (I think many here take for granted
    that everyone knows who Frank Sinatra [removed] you might be surprised
    and saddened to find out how many people under 30 have never heard of
    him!) Of course, to anyone who takes the time to learn about the
    history and popular entertainers of the era, the shows still work, but
    I think that requires more effort than many younger people are willing
    to take.

>     Bryan said, "I'm sorry to say that looking at a Captain Midnight
>     decoder ring
>     in the display case of a dealer in a hotel meeting room just doesn't
>     provide
>     the same critical interactive element that draws younger folks in."

>     True. But modern-day versions of adventure series like "Captain
>     Midnight" and
>     "Jack Armstrong" might be as appealing to kids today as the
>     originals were to
>     kids decades ago.

    Again, I agree. In middle school, I listened through nearly all of the
    extant Jack Armstrong programs (courtesy of the SPERDVAC lending
    libraries) and enjoyed them thoroughly. The 15-minute serial format
    was very engaging, and the stories were quite thrilling -- at least I
    thought so. If something similar were produced today and offered as a
    daily or weekly podcast, I suspect quite a few younger people would
    listen, especially if it was promoted properly. I mentioned the
    Captain Midnight decoder ring not to put down the program, but as an
    example of the "nostalgia" factor that I think is preventing younger
    people from becoming more engaged. People who remember premiums such
    as the decoder ring from their own youths, or people who are already
    dedicated fans of a series are likely to value those objects for
    sentimental reasons. Younger people have no such attachment to them
    couldn't care less. I think a convention that focuses too much on
    dealers swapping expensive "antique collectibles" runs the risk of
    alienating today's youth. You don't win new fans by showing them a
    scrapbook full of OTR-related box tops.

>     _Every_ Cincinnati re-creation is open to attendees auditioning.
>     Even when
>     Don Ramlow has his All Ears Theatre people come in to do a re-
>     creation, there
>     are still character parts open to the average attendee who wants to
>     participate.

    I'm glad to hear that it wasn't just the one year I attended. I think
    this is a definite plus for the Cincinnati convention. The more
    interactive a convention is, the better. The current model of relying
    on guest stars may have been effective in the 1970s and 1980s as these
    sorts of conventions got going and quite a few OTR-era actors were
    still around and willing to participate. But as the list of available
    OTR actors grows smaller, the guest model has to change. Without the
    draw of name actors, there has to be another incentive for people to
    attend. In this age of MP3s and vast archives of OTR online, simply
    buying or swapping shows at dealers' tables won't do it. And even the
    discussion panels alone will have a tough time attracting crowds to a
    convention. I really think that a more interactive experience that
    gives attendees more opportunities to participate in the production
    and staging of recreations or new audio dramas is a good start. (And
    not for just one "amateur night" at some point during the convention
    or giving attendees bit parts in a few programs.) Encourage not only
    actors, but musicians to learn the art of crafting scores for radio
    dramas. Maybe have a scoring contest like Turner Classic Movies does
    to encourage young composers to write for silent films. Have hands-on
    sound effects workshops. (Again, maybe have a pre-announced contest
    where attendees are challenged to create on-stage specific effects
    using only materials from a local supermarket.) Maybe invite a local
    radio station to broadcast the recreations (assuming the proper
    permissions can be obtained). Maybe host an afternoon social where
    guests are asked to come in the persona of their favorite OTR actor or
    character -- have the guests mingle and see if they can figure out who
    the others are. The last one may be a bit corny, but the point is for
    conventions to survive, I really think they have to do *something* to
    give attendees more opportunities to participate.

    Let me just say that I'm not suggesting we *change* OTR or ignore its
    roots. I have the greatest respect for the writers, actors, sound
    effects artists, musicians, and others from radio's "golden age." I
    enjoy listening to a variety of OTR programs -- currently, it's the
    "Great Gildersleeve" on my iPod every afternoon when I go jogging.
    Conventions such as FOTR, Cincy, SPERDVAC, REPS, and others have
    undoubtedly done a great service by honoring those who were active in
    the early years of radio while serving to promote research and
    providing a place for fans to gather and get to know each other. I
    definitely think conventions have a place in the 21st century, just as
    I'm optimistic that audio drama as an art will continue to inspire
    generations of writers, actors, producers, and listeners. However, at
    some point, the conventions will have to shed some of the "nostalgia"
    trappings and the long-standing "conventions" (pardon the pun) of how
    such meetings are conducted if significant numbers of young
    enthusiasts are to be drawn to them.

    Bryan W.

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:56:52 -0400
    From: Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi Friends,

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    *Featuring Fred Allen*

    TEXACO STAR THEATER
    "The Fred Allen Show"
      Episode 61 3-8-42 "The Life Story of Fred Allen"
      Guest Star: Maurice Evans
      Stars: Fred Allen, Portland Hoffa, Kenny Baker
      Announcer: Jimmy Wallington
      CBS Texas Oil Company

    THEATER GUILD ON THE AIR
    "The United States Steel Hour"
      Episode 136 12-26-48 "Rip Van Winkle"
      Host: Roger Pryor
      Stars: Fred Allen, Arnold Stang, Thelma Ritter,Arthur Margotson, Billy
    Lynn, Brad Barker, George Hicks, Harry Bannister, Hiram Sherman, Ian
    Martin, Kenny Delmar, Mary Wickes, Paul Crabtree, Roger Pryor, Ruth
    Gilbert, Theresa Helburn
      Announcer: Norman Brokenshire
      NBC United States Steel
    ==================================

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE

    THE ABBOTT & COSTELLO SHOW
      (NBC) 10/15/42 Special Guest: Marlene Dietrich

    ARCH OBOLER'S PLAYS
      (NBC) 7/3/48 1st show of series features a fantastically good story,
    "Long Distance" starring Jan Miner. It may bring recollections of
    "Sorry, Wrong Number" but it's very quite different and unique.

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      (Synd) 1930's From a very old transcription of an early program.
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    TALES OF THE TEXAS RANGERS (NBC)
      Title: Quicksilver
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      Title: Coward
      Original Air: 3/25/56
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    COLUMBIA WORKSHOP
      and another in the series, "26 By Corwin. this week, we hear Descent
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    ANSWER MAN
      from the 1940's Episode (25) Origin Of Baseball's Spring Training.

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      from 1946 Episode (01) An Umpire's Question. The host of this 15
    minute sports show is the Manager of The Brooklyn dodgers, Leo Durocher.

      After our look at the radio calendar, we hear BELIEVE IT OR NOT
      from 10/10/37 Episode (013) The guest is Lou Gehrig.

      And finally, we'll hear AUTHOR MEETS THE CRITICS
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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:56:57 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  8-9 births/deaths

    August 9th births

    08-09-1892 - Joe Emerson - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 9-30-1969
    gospel singer: "Hymns of All Churches"; "Hymn Time"
    08-09-1894 - Kathleen Lockhart - Southsea, England - d. 2-18-1978
    actor: "The Nebbs"; "Abroad with the Lockharts"
    08-09-1901 - Charles Farrell - Onset Bay, Cape Cod, MA - d. 5-6-1990
    actor: Verne Albright "My Little Margie"
    08-09-1901 - Gaby Casadesus - Marceilles, France - d. 11-11-1999
    pianist: "The Telephone Hour"
    08-09-1902 - Zino Francescatti - Marseilles, France - d. 9-17-1991
    violinist: "Encores from the Bell Telephone Hour"; "Concert Hall
    Program"
    08-09-1903 - Don Bernard - d. unknown
    director: "Blondie"; "Life of Riley"; "Meet Mr. Meek"
    08-09-1903 - Maurice Wells - Nebraska - d. 6-25-1978
    actor: Donald Putnam "Your Family and Mine"; Warren Biggers "Lawyer
    Tucker"
    08-09-1905 - Leo Genn - London, England - d. 1-26-1978
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-09-1906 - Gunnar Back - Escanaba, MI - d. 11-27-1983
    newscaster: "CBS Morning News Roundup"; "Headline Addition"
    08-09-1908 - [removed] Bezzerides - Samsun, Turkey - d. 1-1-2007
    screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-09-1910 - Snag Werris - NYC - d. 2-27-1987
    writer: "The Comedy Writers Show"; "Quixie Doodles"
    08-09-1911 - Robert K. McCormick - Danville, KY - d. 9-4-1984
    newscaster: "Robert K. McCormick and the News"
    08-09-1912 - Anne (Wiggins) Brown - Baltimore, MD - d. 3-13-2009
    singer: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"; "This Week Around Paris"
    08-09-1919 - Ralph Houk - Lawrence, KS - d. 7-21-2010
    baseball manager: "Tops In Sports"
    08-09-1921 - Joe Anzivin - Youngstown, OH - d. 5-24-2003
    sportscaster: KGMB Honolulu, Hawaii
    08-09-1934 - Cynthia Harris - NYC
    actor:"CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    August 9th deaths

    01-19-1866 - Harry Davenport - NYC - d. 8-9-1949
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Family Theatre"
    02-22-1915 - Jesse Ashlock - Walker County, TX - d. 8-9-1976
    fiddle: "The Musical Brownies"
    03-17-1919 - Marx B. Loeb - d. 8-9-1991
    director: "Suspense"; "Romance"
    03-22-1887 - William Royale - Rochester, NY - d. 8-9-1940
    actor: "Jack Benny Program"; "Eddie Cantor Show"
    04-18-1918 - Tony Mottola - Kearney, NJ - d. 8-9-2004
    jazz guitarist: "Gordon MacRae Gulf Spray Show"; "Burl Ives Sings"
    07-07-1921 - Rod Peterson - Phoenix, AZ - d. 8-9-2004
    writer: "Have Gun, Will Travel"
    08-24-1900 - Jimmy Fidler - St. Louis, MO - d. 8-9-1988
    commentator: "Jimmy Fidler"
    09-20-1899 - Elliot Nugent - Dover, OH - d. 8-9-1980
    actor: "Best Plays"; "United States Steel Hour"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    09-25-1906 - Dimitri Shostakovich - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 8-9-1975
    composer: "Four for the Fifth"
    10-01-1899 - Rupert LaBelle - d. 8-9-1972
    actor: Rufus Kane "Story of Joan and Kermit"
    10-02-1897 - Jess Kirkpatrick - Illinois - d. 8-9-1976
    actor: Harry Henderson "Beulah"
    11-14-1916 - Don Ewell - Baltimore, MD - d. 8-9-1983
    pianist: "Jack Teagarden and His Orchestra"

    Ron

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    Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:57:04 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  8-10 births/deaths

    August 10th births

    08-10-1874 - Herbert Hoover - West Branch, IA - d. 10-20-1964
    [removed] president: "The People's Platform"
    08-10-1878 - Louis Esson - Sydney, Australia - d. 11-27-1943
    writer: "Lola, the Lorelei"
    08-10-1887 - Hugh Herbert - Binghamton, NY - d. 3-12-1952
    actor: Pop "That's My Pop"; "Rudy Vallee Hour"; "Family Theatre"
    08-10-1895 - Harry Richman - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-3-1972
    singer, dancer, actor: "Harry Richman Dodge Program"; "Chase and
    Sanborn Hour"
    08-10-1896 - Louis Sobol - New Haven, CT - d. 2-9-1986
    columist: "Album of Manhattan"; "Voice of Broadway"; "Bright Lights of
    New York"
    08-10-1896 - Walter Lang - Memphis, TN - d. 2-7-1972
    film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    08-10-1899 - Jack Haley - Boston, MA - d. 6-6-1979
    comedian: "Log Cabin"; "Wonder Show"; "Sealtest Village Store"
    08-10-1899 - Walter Ashenbrenner - d. 11-xx-1981
    violinist: WJAZ Chicago, Illinois
    08-10-1901 - Josef Koestner - Wilmersdorf, Germany - d. 9-16-1990
    orchestra leader: "Ry-Krisp Show"; "Hoover Sentinels Serenade"
    08-10-1902 - Curt Siodmak - Dresden, Saxony, Germany - d. 9-2-2000
    film writer: "Suspense"
    08-10-1902 - Franklyn Ferguson - Texas - d. 9-18-1969
    announcer: "The Breakfast Club"; "Jack Armstrong, the All-American Boy"
    08-10-1902 - Louise Massey - Midland, TX - d. 6-20-1983
    singer: (Louise Massey and the Westerners) "National Barn Dance";
    "Show Boat"
    08-10-1902 - Venezuela Jones - d. 6-22-1995
    actor: Susie Robinson "Our Gal Sunday"
    08-10-1907 - Jane Pickens - Macon, GA - d. 2-21-1992
    singer: (Pickens Sisters) "Gulf Headliners"; "Evening in Paris"; "Jane
    Pickens Show"
    08-10-1908 - Richard DuPage - Kansas City, MO - d. 6-21-1983
    composer: "Murder By Experts"; "The Search That Never Ends"
    08-10-1909 - Claude Thornhill - Terre Haute, IN - d. 7-1-1965
    bandleader: "The Judy 'N Jill 'N Johnny Show"
    08-10-1910 - Roy Ringwald - d. 7-11-1995
    singer: "The Fred Waring Show"
    08-10-1910 - Sigmund Miller - d. 8-5-1998
    writer: "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"
    08-10-1911 - Wanna Coffman - d. 11-28-1991
    bass: "The Musical Brownies"
    08-10-1912 - Wilbur Stark - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-11-1995
    producer: "Movie Matinee"; "Teen Canteen"
    08-10-1913 - Noah Beery, Jr. - NYC - d. 11-1-1994
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    08-10-1914 - Jeff Corey - NYC - d. 8-16-2002
    actor: "Nightbeat"; "Escape"; "NBC Presents: Short Story"
    08-10-1915 - Jack Lester - Oklahoma - d. 9-18-2004
    actor: Sky King "Sky King"; ""Whistlin' Jimmy Steele"
    08-10-1917 - Kathleen Claypool - Aylesworth, IN - d. 5-5-2003
    actor: "Jack Armstrong, the All-American Boy"
    08-10-1921 - Marvin Zindler - Houston, TX - d. 7-29-2007
    disk jockey, spot news announcer: KATL-AM, Houston, Texas
    08-10-1922 - Al Alberts - Chester, PA - d. 11-27-2009
    singer: (Member of the Four Aces) "Horn and Hardart Children's Hour"
    08-10-1923 - Rhonda Fleming - Hollywood, CA
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-10-1924 - Martha Hyer - Fort Worth, TX
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-10-1927 - Jimmy Martin - Sneedville, TN - d. 5-14-2005
    bluegrass performer: "Louisiana Hayride"; "WWVA Jamboree"
    08-10-1928 - Eddie Fisher - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-22-2010
    singer: "Stars in Khaki 'n' Blue"; "Eddie Fisher Show"
    08-10-1928 - Jimmy Dean - Plainview, TX - d. 6-13-2010
    singer: "Grand Ole Opry"
    08-10-1935 - Marshall Borden - Howell, MI
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

    August 10th deaths

    01-10-1899 - Kenneth Casey, Sr. - NYC - d. 8-10-1965
    conductor: "Winnie the Wave"
    02-02-1888 - Frank Lloyd - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 8-10-1960
    film director: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Robert Arden Round Table
    Discussion"
    02-14-1909 - Carlton Moss - Newark, NJ - d. 8-10-1997
    writer, creator: "Community Forum"
    04-23-1915 - James F. Fleming - Baraboo, WI - d. 8-10-1996
    announcer: "Vic and Sade"; "Get John's Other Wife"
    05-02-1903 - Sylvan Levin - Baltimore, MD - d. 8-10-1996
    conductor: "Sinfonietta"; "Brownstone Theatre"; "Let's Go to the Opera"
    05-06-1914 - Ken Englund - Chicago, IL - d. 8-10-1993
    writer: "Three Sheets to the Wind"
    05-20-1894 - Adela Rogers St. Johns - Los Angeles, CA - d. 8-10-1988
    novelist: Commentator on NBC 1936-1937
    06-18-1910 - Dick Foran - Flemington, NJ - d. 8-10-1979
    singer: (The Singing Cowboy) "George Burns and Gracie Allen Show"
    07-03-1915 - Jerry Gray - Boston MA - d. 8-10-1976
    bandleader: "I Sustain the Wings"; "Philip Morris Frolics"; "Club 15"
    07-04-1902 - Vince Barnett - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 8-10-1977
    actor: "Shell Chateau"; "Rudy Vallee Sealtest Show"
    07-10-1913 - Joan Marsh - Porterville, CA - d. 8-10-2000
    actor: "Calling All Cars"; "Good News of 1939"
    07-17-1917 - Lou Boudreau - Harvey, IL - d. 8-10-2001
    sportscaster: Chicago Cubs
    08-07-1910 - Freddie Slack - Westby, WI - d. 8-10-1965
    pianist, bandleader: "Kraft Music Hall"
    08-20-1911 - Robert Riley Crutcher - Missouri - d. 8-10-1974
    writer: "Fabulous Dr. Tweedy"; "Eddie Bracken Show"
    08-23-1910 - John Nesbitt - Victoria, British Columbia, Canada - d.
    8-10-1960
    commentator: ""John Nesbitt and the News"; Passing Parade"
    09-13-1908 - Sheila Barrett - d. 8-10-1980
    impersonator, mimic: "Fred Allen Show"; "Time of Your Life"; "Magic Key"
    09-20-1898 - Charlie Dressen - Decatur, IL - d. 8-10-1966
    baseball manager: "Tops in Sports"; "Brooklyn Dodgers Locker Room
    Interviews"
    09-30-1912 - Kenny Baker - Monrovia, CA - d. 8-10-1985
    singer, comedian: "Jack Benny Program"; "Glamour Manor"; "Kenny Baker
    Show"
    10-15-1912 - "Zeb" Tennis - Missouri - d. 8-10-1972
    fiddle: "Plantation Boys"
    10-27-1890 - Bob Becker - Terryville, SD - d. 8-10-1962
    commentator: "Fireside Chats About Dogs/Pet Parade"
    11-13-1903 - Conrad Thibault - Northbridge, MA - d. 8-10-1983
    singer: "Show Boat"; "Packard Hour"; "Manhattan Merry-Go-Round"
    11-27-1897 - Vera Allen - NYC - d. 8-10-1987
    actor: Grace Doblen "Hilltop House"; Mother Malone "Young Dr. Malone"
    11-27-1901 - Ted Husing - The Bronx, NY - d. 8-10-1962
    announcer, sportscaster: "Sportslants"; "March of Time"; "Radio
    Reader's Digest"

    Ron

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    Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:12:01 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

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