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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 35
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Amos and Andy Question [ RadioHour@[removed] ]
Johnny Carson redux [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
2-1 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Johnny Carson and Fred Allen [ Richard Fish <fish@lodestone-media. ]
Favorite Story [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
radio directory [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
Microphones [ "Randall F. Miller Jr." <rfmillerjr ]
Bill Shadel [ Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; ]
CBS' early days [ "Steven Jones" <stevpj@[removed]; ]
An Adam & Eve Mystery [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
Gerald McBoingBoing posted to the =? [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
City Hospital [ DanHaefele@[removed] ]
The Aces [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
Inbred announcers? [ Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed]; ]
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:17:35 -0500
From: RadioHour@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Amos and Andy Question
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Hi All,
I'm looking for the date of the Amos and Andy show where Shorty and Calhoun
have their famous exchange. I know I have it somewhere in my collection, but
I'm not sure which episode it is.
Thanks!
Greg
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:49:58 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Johnny Carson redux
That's pretty remarkable, since at that time Jack Benny was still on CBS, and
Carson was on NBC. I wonder how they managed to get CBS to allow that.
Carson was NOT on NBC at this point, this was 1955 and his daytime
comedy-variety show was on CBS.
Bringing this back on [removed] anyone know if Carson ever wrote for Red
Skelton's radio show? He definitely wrote for the TV version (that was his
legendary break) but in that time frame, Red would still have been doing his
radio show, too.
Dixon
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:49:38 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 2-1 births/deaths
February 1st births
H A P P Y 99th H I L D E G A R D E
02-01-1891 - Alexander Kipnis - Schitomir, Ukraine - d. 5-14-1978
wagnerian basso profundo: "Outpost Concert Series"; "Metropolitan Opera"
02-01-1895 - John Ford - Cape Elizabeth, ME - d. 8-31-1973
director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
02-01-1901 - Clark Gable - Cadiz, OH - d. 11-16-1960
actor: "So Proudly We Hail"; "Silver Theatre"
02-01-1904 - S. J. Perleman - NYC - d. 10-17-1979
humorist: "Information Please"; "Author! Author!"; "Railroad Hour"
02-01-1906 - Hildegarde - Adell, WI (Raised: Milwaukee, WI)
singer, pianist: (The Dear that Made Milwaukee Famous) "Hildegard Program"
02-01-1908 - George Pal - Cegled, Austria-Hungary - d. 5-2-1980
film producer, director: "Bud's Bandwagon"
02-01-1922 - Miriam Wolfe - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-30-2000
actress: Nancy "Witch's Tale"
02-01-1922 - Renata Tebaldi - Pesaro, Italy - d. 12-19-2004
lyric soprano: "Bell Telephone Hour"; "Metropolitan Opera
02-01-1926 - Stuart Whitman - San Francisco, CA
actor: "We Hold These Truths"
02-01-1937 - Don Everly - Brownie, KY
singer: (The Everly Brothers) "March of Dimes"; "Country Hoedown"
February 1st deaths
01-20-1907 - L. A. "Speed" Riggs - Silverdale, NC - d. 2-1-1987
tobacco auctioneer: "Jack Benny Show"; "Kay Kyser Show"
02-21-1881 - Dr. Jonah B. Wise - Cincinnati, OH - d. 2-1-1959
preacher: "Message of Israel"
02-25-1912 - Richard Wattis - Wednesbury, England - d. 2-1-1975
actor: "Brothers In Law"
05-02-1885 - Hedda Hopper - Hollidaysburg, PA - d. 2-1-1966
actress, columnist: Portia Brent "Brenthouse"; "Hedda Hopper Show"
05-29-1909 - Mary Jane Higby - St. Louis, MO - d. 2-1-1986
actress: Joan Davis "When a Girl Marries"; Nora Drake "This is Nora Drake"
05-30-1892 - Raymond Clapper - LaCygne, KS - d. 2-1-1944
commentator: (Killed During WWII) "News and Commentary for White Owl Cigars"
06-10-1920 - Anne Burr - Boston, MA - d. 2-1-2003
actress: Regina Rawlings "Backstage Wife"; "Nona Marsh "Wendy Warren and the
News"
08-12-1921 - Marjorie Reynolds - Buhl, ID - d. 2-1-1997
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Silver Theatre"
08-16-1888 - Marion Sayle Taylor - Louisville, KY - d. 2-1-1942
advisor: "Voice of Experience"
08-30-1797 - Mary Wollstonecraft Shelly - London, England - d. 2-1-1851
creator of Frankenstein: "Suspense"; "The Weird Circle"
09-15-1907 - Jack Bailey - Hampton, IA - d. 2-1-1980
emcee: "Queen for a Day"; "Truth or Consequences"
10-04-1895 - Buster Keaton - Piqua, KS - d. 2-1-1966
comediann: "Shell Chateau"; "Voices from the Hollywood Past"
11-03-1928 - Wanda Hendrix - Jacksonville, FL - d. 2-1-1981
actress: "Cavalcade of America"; "Stars Over Hollywood"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-01-1918 - Thomas Hayward - Kansas City, MO - d. 2-1-1995
singer: "Serenade to America"; "Name Speaks"
12-28-1909 - Olan Soule - La Harpe, IL - d. 2-1-1994
actor: Sam Ryder "Bachelor's Children"; Kermit Hubbard "Joan and Kermit"
xx-xx-1895 - Mischa Mischakoff - Proskourov, Russia - d. 2-1-1981
violinist: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"; "NBC String Trio"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:50:35 -0500
From: Richard Fish <fish@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Johnny Carson and Fred Allen
Unless I've missed it, which is possible, nobody has yet mentioned
Carson's most common reference to OTR:
The Mighty Carson Art Players.
This was of course the name used for the actors who played in sketches
on the Carson show. Equally of course, he took it directly from Fred,
who coined The Mighty Allen Art Players to credit his cast for sketches
on his radio show.
I saw an interview the other day on TV -- I think it might have been
with Mike Wallace? -- where Carson was asked about his comedy
influences, who made him laugh, and the second name he mentioned was
Fred Allen.
Does anyone know about the rumor I've heard, to the effect that if Fred
Allen had not died suddenly in 1956, he might have gone on to become the
first host of the Tonight Show instead of Steve Allen?
Years ago, for awhile, I kind of resented "Mighty Carson Art Players" as
a ripoff, but that's not right. It was homage, and a fitting tribute.
Thanks, Johnny!
Richard Fish
--
"Post proofs that brotherhood is not so wild a dream as those who profit
by postponing it pretend." -- Norman Corwin, 1945
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:50:45 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Favorite Story
Does any one know if Janet Waldo appeared on other Favorite Stories shows by
side 10-4-47, 1-24-48, 6-12-48, and 7-30-49? I am trying to locate them for
Janet. Take care,
Walden
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:58:50 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: radio directory
Hi Everybody,
does any one have both a New York and Hollywood Radio directory from the mid
1940s? I know an author who would like to check the list of names in these
two book against the names listed on the radio scripts in the author,s files
for a future book. Take care,
Walden Hughes
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:09:00 -0500
From: "Randall F. Miller Jr." <rfmillerjr1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Microphones
Recently Evan Torch asked:
How did show personnel decide whether to use the conventional "microphone on
a stand" vs. the 44B hung from above?
I am not an old radio actor and I am too young (by just a little) to have
participated in what is
called the Golden Age of radio, but I am an engineer in a radio station, and
have done my share of recordings,
both with the spoken word, and music.
The RCA 44 was a ribbon microphone and was usually used on a stand just in
front of the actor, as far as I know it
is/was not usually hung. (yes they are still being used, and much sought
after by collectors) For a hanging mic you would use what is termed a
shotgun mic which resembles a gun barrel, and by its design is very, very
directional.
The selection of the micrphones is usually up to the engineer, and may be
discussed with the producer, usually some time before the broadcast,
sometimes using the script as a guide. There are many different types of
microphones, and most radio stations of the time would have a good selection
to choose from, although many would be of the RCA variety. I hope this
helps.
Randy Miller, Senior Engineer, WITF-TV/FM/Radio Pennsylvania
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:10:13 -0500
From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bill Shadel
Veteran radio and TV newsman Bill Shadel died in Renton, Washington last
Saturday at the age of 96. He worked with the big names in broadincasting,
Murrow, Cronkite, Sevareid etc., and he provided firsthand reports on the
D-Day landings in World War II. He also was the moderator for the
Kennedy-Nixon debate.
Regards,
Ken Dahl
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:10:58 -0500
From: "Steven Jones" <stevpj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: CBS' early days
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Hi
I'm new to this group, so I apologise if my question has been asked and
answered before.
I'm very interested in the early days of the networks. I've read and very much
enjoyed the postings that Elizabeth McLeod has made on the subject in the
past. However, I do have one question regarding the Columbia Phonograph
Broadcasting Company and United Independent Broadcasters (UIB).
Elizabeth says of the Columbia Phonograph Broadcasting Company that its stock
was "divided up among a number of additional investors, none of whom had
anything to do with Judson, Coats or UIB".
Elizabeth then goes on to say that after loosing $100,000 in the first month,
the Columbia Phonograph Company pulled out. Also, when William Paley bought
UIB, one of the first things he did "was to clean up the messy corporate
structure. The Columbia Broadcasting Company was dissolved".
This suggests to me that, in order for Paley to be able to dissolve the
Columbia Broadcasting Company, he would have had to own it, whereas it was UIB
he bought from J. H. Loucheim. So what I would like to know is, when Columbia
Phonograph pulled out of the Columbia Phonograph Broadcasting Company, what
happened to their share? Did they sell it to UIB, meaning that when Paley
bought UIB he automatically also bought Columbia Broadcasting? Or did Columbia
Phonograph sell their share to someone else, who in turn sold it to Paley, who
then dissolved it?
I hope it's clear what it is I'm trying to get at here, as I find these
network corporate histories fascinating.
Many thanks
Steve
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:12:00 -0500
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: An Adam & Eve Mystery
I have a tape that includes the infamous (or celebrated, if you
prefer) December 1937 Chase & Sanborn Hour featuring Don Ameche and May
West as Adam and Eve. Ms. West's suggestive performance of Arch
Oboler's script brought thousands of complaints and caused her and any
mention of her name to be banned from NBC -- though Ameche, Oboler and
others appear to have continued their radio careers quite successfully.
After that recording on my tape there are three more renditions of
the Adam & Eve script, with other performers in contrasting deliveries.
The cue sheet is dated later in December.
Does anyone know what these alternate performances were? Examples
of a non-West reading of Eve? Special performance for the FCC?
--Bill Jaker
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:12:16 -0500
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gerald McBoingBoing posted to the
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For those of you who don't monitor my blog, Nostalgic Rumblings (and why
don't you?), the Dr. Seuss kiddie 45, Gerald McBoingBoing is now available
for download. See:
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...for the particulars.
Charlie
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 01:13:45 -0500
From: DanHaefele@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: City Hospital
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Kermyt Anderson asked about the availability of episodes of City
Hospital. When I get the chance, I'm going to add a couple AFRTS
rebroadcasts of
City Hospital to SPERDVAC's General Library. Maybe I'll find more some day.
Dan Haefele
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:48:47 -0500
From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Aces
Many thanks to wgaryw for his comments on Mr. Ace and
JANE. Having heard only the excerpt on the WTIC
interview, in which the audience reacted
enthusiastically to the skit, I felt, as Gary did,
that it energized the program in a way I hadn't felt
in the conventional series. Likewise the Big Show
excerpts, involving Bob Hope, 'Taloo' and Jimmy
Durante, were full of great lines, well delivered by
the superb pros for which they were written. What a
great talent he was.
Michael Berger
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:26:26 -0500
From: Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Inbred announcers?
Evan Torch. MD, asks
I have two more questions for the Harlan Stones and Bill Murtaughs of the
world:
Hi Evan. What's up Doc. (I couldn't resist it.)
More questions? Where was I when the others were asked? Probably trying to
learn my new computer's **$#@!&* software
How did show personnel decide whether to use the conventional "microphone on
a stand" vs. the 44B hung from above?
I'll let Bill Murtaugh handle that one. I haven't a clue. The only hanging
microphones that I experienced was the ones dangling over the studio
audience. And if I know Bill, he'll have some input on the next question
also.
Secondly, were announcers considered in a world unto themselves (like
placekickers on a football team) or did they the same background as the
actors. I remember comments to the effect in these pages that they were sort
of an inbred tight unit.
Placekickers eh? Interesting metaphor. I seem to feel that Place Kickers
stay basically to themselves because the rest of the team scorns them and
looks down their noses at them. They believe Kickers keep their uniforms too
clean by keeping out of harms way.
As for announcers, one can't lump them all in a common "inbred tight unit".
Many good Actors were also good announcers. A couple that come to mind were
Clayton "Bud" Collier and Dwight Weist. Frankly, a performer would gladly
do any assignment to make a buck. But what often happened is that when one's
voice became familiar, and readily identified as an announcer type voice, or
identified with a product, they usually were relegated to just those chores.
Then too, many announcers became performing celebrities, when ad agencies
integrated the commercials into the body of the show, by having the
announcer enter the scene and "converse" with the main characters, while
extolling the virtues of the product. Don Wilson and Harry Von Zell come
immediately to mind.
To me, they simply were talented individuals (for the most part) who found a
niche that needed filling, and stuck with it, rather that compete with all
the other male actors for dramatic or comedy roles. [removed]'ll have to
admit, like a place kicker, it was good pay, and they didn't have to work
(rehearse) all that hard. :)
Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead
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