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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 148
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Madame Queen's Entrance [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
1st appearance of the Bickersons? [ bloodbleeds@[removed] ]
Jan. 2003 NY City seminars on OTR [ khovard@[removed] ]
Re: Polygraph [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
Dealing with [removed] [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
you're leaving!!! [ " Dial" <epminney@[removed]; ]
Daily Radio Serials [ Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@ricon ]
Re: The Stooges - Pillsbury [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
Re: Gloria Stuart [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
The Aldrich Family [ "william mahan" <wmahan@[removed]; ]
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:03:30 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Madame Queen's Entrance
Bill Mahon's discussion of the trial on A&A was most interesting. I wish
I'd heard that episode. I hope his question gets a reply, about the long
period of laughter which Mr. Mahon thinks was the studio audience, perhaps
prepared for what happened next, and perhaps not.
This raises a question in my mind. It's always been my understanding that
"crowd noise" in scripted shows, was provided by the actors and other pros
in the studio, never by the studio audience. I assumed the reason was that
the cast and perhaps band members and the like could be faded down or
stopped when required. That might well have been difficult with the
audience, and seriously could throw off the timing of the show. Whatever
happened during the long period with no lines in the A&A episode to which
Mr. Mahon refers must have been anticipated by the cast, director and the
like, and its timing taken into account.
Can our pros answer the question of just how much (if at all) studio
audiences were used for sounds, other than in audience participation shows?
Regards to all from your resident expert at walla walla mumbo jumbo. Take
the above, for instance.
Hah! Beat you to the keyboard, Hal Stone! I know what you were going to say.
But try this experiment: for excellent background crowd noise, get four
people together and simultaneously read all the above (without groaning),
each person starting at the same time, but two paragraphs further into this
gem. Results could be fun, but you will find that it is not easy.
I'm sure many of you in school tried the trick of using a tape recorder and
speaking into its mike, while hearing yourself on earphones attached to the
playback head. This is exactly the problem talk show hosts have with
callers who don't turn down their radio once on the air. They just stop in
uttering confusion. Ouch!
Lee Munsick
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:03:42 -0400
From: bloodbleeds@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 1st appearance of the Bickersons?
Hi. I'm trying to find out what exact show of the Chase and Sanborn Hour the Bickersons
first appeared. Also, is there a collection of C&SH shows anywhere? I'm writing a book on
the Bickersons, and would Very much like to find their true origin. If you can help, I'll mention
you in the book! :)
Thanks.
Ben Ohmart
The Great Gildersleeve book
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:03:47 -0400
From: khovard@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jan. 2003 NY City seminars on OTR
I am working with two prominent New York City institutions to run a
series (either separately or cosponsored by both of them) of seminars on
various aspects of Old Time Radio in January.
We are considering having sessions on comedy, the soaps, drama and
perhaps children's shows.
I would appreciate some suggestions for the series.
1. I know a number of actors and authors in the New York area. But ,
assuming I might forget or be unaware of some good ones, I would
appreciate your suggestions
2. If we ran four or five sessions, please let me know what you think the
topics of the seminars should be if you disagree with my breakdown above.
Howard Blue
author of "WORDS AT WAR," a new book about World War II era radio drama
(see below)
A new book about radio in the World War II era is slated for publication
this fall by Scarecrow Press. After interviewing Arthur Miller, Norman
Corwin, Art Carney, Jackson Beck, Pete Seeger, Arthur Laurents and many
others, and doing extensive archival research, Howard Blue has written
WORDS AT WAR: WORLD WAR II ERA RADIO DRAMA & THE POSTWAR BROADCASTING
INDUSTRY BLACKLIST. The publisher will retail the bok for $[removed]
However, Howard has made a prepublication bulk purchase so that he can
offer it at [removed]
For a pre-publication order or a fuller description of the book,
contact
Howard at Khovard@[removed] or Howard Blue, 1951 Valentines Rd., Westbury
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:04:18 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Polygraph
In a message dated 4/17/02 11:27:14 PM, Jack & Cathy French asks:
Any body recall the name of the OTR crime series that featured Leonarde
Keeler and the his polygraph (lie-detector) ? I used to listen to the
show as a kid, but can't remember the title.
***It wouldn't be the 1945 summer series MYSTERY IN THE AIR, would it. I
know at least the first episode was about the polygraph (of which WONDER
WOMAN-creator William Moulton Marston was a co-inventer). The series starred
Steven Courtleigh (who briefly took over as The Shadow that fall) as
detective Stonewall Scott, with a cast that included Joan Vitez and Ed
Jerome. The NBC series was a summer replacement for THE ABBOTT & COSTELLO
SHOW. --Anthony Tollin
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:04:26 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dealing with [removed]
Perhaps off topic, but this may help and protect some readers.
I ordered a CD through Amazon's systems whereby one can "pre-order"
material and when one of their "partner" dealers locates the item, it's
billed and sent direct to the customer. The CD had been wet, and arrived
with the glossy-paper booklet stuck together like one piece of
cardboard. Can't get it open to read it. The back page was stuck to the
CD, so I can't read the CD label. The "crystal box" was broken.
I complained to Amazon twice, with no response. The third time I used some
rather forceful language (not swear words, just clearly telling them what I
thought of them) which got a reply, but not really a response: a lengthy
form letter from "Customer Relations", which basically said they had no
control over their third parties. Read: tough luck, Charley! Better luck
next time. "Customer Relations" hah! They clearly have no idea what the
words and concept mean.
I've dealt with other similar situations on the Internet where the
go-between immediately contacted their errant dealer, solved the problem,
and had a refund sent to me within a day.
So there won't be a next time with Amazon. I'm cancelling all existing
pre-orders with them, and told them clearly I will never deal with Amazon
again. I realize that won't phase them a bit, but even that large industry
gets its customers one order at a time.
I report this to you all in the hope that it will save you good readers
from similar trashing at their hands.
Caveat Emptor! Which means "you're dealing with an empty cave instead
of brains"!
I can add this one more example of what NOT to do dealing with one's
customers in business, to others I've used, doing and teaching in 30+ years
of Marketing, Public Relations, and Customer Relations.
Lee Munsick
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:04:32 -0400
From: " Dial" <epminney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: you're leaving!!!
Dear Charlie--I just had a shocking thought: with you going to the
Convention, does this mean that we faithful Digesters must remain
bereft of our daily postings? While you're out swanning about with all
the great folks in Cincinnati, must we remain at our humdrum jobs
pining for news from the world of OTR for THREE whole days? Good
grief! Guess I'd better get a book! (Have a wonderful time--all of you
Elizabeth Minney
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:04:36 -0400
From: Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Daily Radio Serials
Hi,
I am collecting old time radio shows and am currently looking for some of
the 15 minute daily radio soaps and adventure serials such as Buck Rogers,
Captain Midnight, etc. If anyone has any or knows about any, please contact
me.
Thanks,
Bryant White
[removed] I am also looking for old "Superman" radio shows to give to a child I
know, who is a huge Superman fan, but knows nothing at all about the radio
show. I'd like to get him interested in otr.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:04:40 -0400
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: The Stooges - Pillsbury
In #145 Elizabeth mentioned the Columbia Pictures--Pillsbury advertising
tie-in involving the Three Stooges in 1937.
I can add this: A 1937 newspaper ad said: "Free! 2 sets of Moving
Pictures and Moving Picture Machine! Get one at your grocer's free with two
packages of Pillsbury's Farina. ... Real movies of the Three Stooges". ...
See Columbia's Three Stooges at your local theatre." (You assembled a
cardboard device which then showed you a "movie" of the Stooges when you
turned its crank.) I guess that ad meant that you got the kit free if you
*bought* two packages of Farina.
One Saturday in the 1940s each of us kids leaving a 7-unit movie matinee
in Chicago received the above-described "moving picture machine" as a gift.
Probably these were left-overs from 1937. I've read that an
unassembled/unpunched kit could sell for a coupla grand today.
-- Phil Chavin (No, I didn't save my movie machine.)
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:04:23 -0400
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Gloria Stuart
Walden Hughes mentioned that he is having Gloria Stuart on YUSA this Sunday
and Anthony Tollin mentioned that Gloria Stuart co-starred with Richard Dix
and the voice of Bill Forman in the first of William Castle's WHISTLER
movies.
It is THAT movie that will be shown as part of the "Radio Goes to the
Movies" on May 10 through 12. The Whistler movie will follow the recreation
of a Whistler radio show, one of four radio recreations at the Egyptian
Theater in Hollywood.
The Egyptian will also be having a Gloria Stuart Tribute on April 27 and 28.
On Saturday the 27th they will show "The Invisible Man" followed by a
discussion with Gloria Stuart in person. Then she will introduce two more of
her films: "Gold Diggers of 1935" and "The Old Dark House." On Sunday the
28th she'll return for "Titanic".
For more information on the "Gloria Stuart Tribute" or "Radio Goes to the
Movies", see [removed]
Barbara
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:19:54 -0400
From: "william mahan" <wmahan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Aldrich Family
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TV sitcoms of the 50s are often criticized for their vanilla portrayal of
family life. Television learned the whitewash trick from radio. No show was
more squeaky clean than the Aldrich Family. At least Beaver had Eddie
Haskell. The toughest kid on the Aldrich Family was Homer's girlfriend
Gladys. The voices of Ezra Stone as Henry, and Jackie Kelk as Homer were
outstanding for their characters. Henry's oft repeated "Geee Whiz" and
Homer's whiney befuddlements left these teens totally non-threatening,
vulnerable, and hilarious - with families they could depend on. The show
worked for me, perhaps because I was smarter than them. I knew what reality
was and they didn't.
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