Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #110
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 4/6/2005 10:18 PM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 110
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      no more tape                          [ edcarr@[removed] ]
      4-7 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Castile Soap                          [ "Tim Lones" <tlones@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Re: Jack Benny/Whistler               [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
      Public Service Announcements + oleom  [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      Fiddler/Whistler                      [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Sci Fi Theater                        [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
      Jack Benny/Whistler                   [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
      See The Butter Fly!                   [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
      I swan                                [ "Don and Kathy Dean" <dxk@ezlinknet ]
      National Recording Registry           [ Art Chimes <achimes@[removed]; ]
      OTR tributes?                         [ "Mark Wuellner" <mwuellne@[removed] ]
      84 charing cross road                 [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      Fels-Naptha soap                      [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      I [removed]                             [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      Challenge of the Yukon                [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
      Jack Benny Imitator Eddie Carrol in   [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
      Thanks for the help                   [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:57:14 -0400
    From: edcarr@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  no more tape

    hi
    this is for those who still use reel to reel, as you may or
    may not know no new tape is being made according to
    a newspaper article,
    if you need tape i can put you in touch with a person
    selling blank ampex 641-1800 or blank shrink wrapped
    631-1200ft at $3 ea, mix or match, min 50 reels
    please serious inquiry only
    ed

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:59:28 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-7 births/deaths

    April 7th births

    04-07-1893 - Irene Castle - New Rochelle, NY - d. 1-25-1969
    actress: Best Dressed Woman "Life of Irene Castle"; "Twenty Questions"

    04-07-1895 - Bert Wheeler - Paterson, NJ - d. 1-18-1968
    comedian: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "New Old Gold Show"
    04-07-1897 - Walter Winchell - NYC - d. 2-20-1972
    news-gossip caster: "Lucky Strike Dance Hour"; "Jergens Journal"
    04-07-1899 - Robert Casasesus - Paris, France - d. 9-19-1972
    pianist: "Telephone Hour"; "Oklahoma City Symphony Orchestra"
    04-07-1901 - Gavin Gordon - Chicora, MS - d. 4-7-1983
    actor: Doctor Norfolk "Brenthouse"
    04-07-1905 - Murray Bolen - MN - d. 10-22-1995
    producer, director: "Father Knows Best"; "Mayor of the Town";
    "Railroad Hour"
    04-07-1908 - Percy Faith - Toronto, Canada - d. 2-9-1976
    conductor: "Carnation Contented Hour"; "Pause That Refreshes on the
    Air"
    04-07-1915 - Billie Holliday - Baltimore, MD - d. 7-17-1959
    singer: "Artie Shaw Band"
    04-07-1915 - Stanley Adams - NYC - d. 4-27-1977
    writer: "My Friend Irma"
    04-07-1916 - Anthony Caruso - Frankfort, IN - d. 4-4-2003
    actor: "This Is Your FBI"
    04-07-1918 - Peanuts Hucko - Syracuse, NY - d. 6-19-2003
    jazz clarinetist: "Swing Shift"; "I Sustain These Wings"; "Doctor
    Jazz"

    April 7th deaths

    01-31-1921 - John Agar - Chicago, IL - d. 4-7-2002
    actor: "Big Show"
    02-23-1899 - Norman Taurog - Chicago, IL - d. 4-7-1981
    film director: "Biography in Sound"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
    04-01-1912 - Lou Merrill - Canada - d. 4-7-1963
    actor: Thomas Hyland "Crime Classics"; Aaron Saul "Point Sublime"
    04-06-1884 - Walter Huston - Toronto, Canada - d. 4-7-1950
    actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Cavalcade of America"
    04-07-1901 - Gavin Gordon - Chicora, MS - d. 4-7-1983
    actor: Doctor Norfolk "Brenthouse"
    04-16-1898 - Marian Jordan - Peoria, IL - d. 4-7-1961
    commedienne: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Kaltenmeyer's Kindergarten"
    04-26-1918 - Helen Burgess - Portland, OR - d. 4-7-1937
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-13-1911 - Maxine Sullivan - Homestead, PA - d. 4-7-1987
    vocalist: "Night Life"
    06-22-1902 - Phil Duey - Macy, IN - d. 4-7-1982
    singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Leo Reisman Orchestra";
    "Happy Bakers"
    09-01-1893 - Betty Blythe - Los Angeles, CA - d. 4-7-1972
    actress: "The Whistler"; "This Is Your FBI"; "Let George Do It"
    11-14-1914 - Ken Carson - Colgate, OK - d. 4-7-1994
    singer: (Lustre Cream Shampoo commercial) "Day in the Life of Dennis
    Day"
    11-16-1899 - Mary Margaret McBride - Paris, MO - d. 4-7-1976
    commentator: "Mary Margaret McBride"; "Martha Deane"
    11-29-1905 - Chester Erskine - Hudson, NY - d. 4-7-1986
    film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-30-1873 - Frederic William Wile - La Porte, IN - d. 4-7-1941
    commentator: "Political Situation in Washington"
    xx-xx-xxxx - Grace Coppin - d. 4-7-1993
    actress: Maude "The Life of Riley"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 01:29:18 -0400
    From: "Tim Lones" <tlones@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Castile Soap

    As a Night grocery stocker at a local grocery store in Canton, [removed] can
    say there is definetly such a thing as Castile Soap.  My store carries
    Kirk's CoCo Hardwater Castile-similar to Lava [removed]'s has been around
    since 1839

    Tim Lones

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:28:55 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:29:11 -0400
    From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Jack Benny/Whistler

>     Speaking of Benny, I was listening to an episode of The Whistler, and
>     they mentioned a parody of that show by benny called The Fiddler. Can
>     someone give me the broadcast date for that show?

    There was at least one show this parody was performed, 20 Oct 1946, on the
    radio (I believe it was later redone during the Bob Crosby era, but I can't
    find a cite for that offhand), and then again for TV on 27 Jan 1957.

    Whoops; just got a cite for another radio airing: 24 Feb 1952. Not a Crosby
    ep, though.

    Found another: 26 Feb 1950. I still think there's a Crosby version around,
    but can't prove it [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:30:05 -0400
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Public Service Announcements + oleomargarine

    I've been listening to a lot of YTJohnnyDollar.  During times when it was
    sustaining they broadcast little informative lectures on democracy, history,
    the Constitution, prejudice, etc.   I've heard such announcements on other
    programs as well.   The quality of many of them was quite good.   I wonder
    if anyone has compiled those announcements.   It reminds us of a service we
    don't get anymore with relaxation of broadcast requirements on both TV and
    Radio.
    = ===========================
    Ted Kneebone wrote:
    <Now, if you go to a restaurant and order "oleomargarine", the waitresses
    don't know what you are talking about!>

    In the SF Bay Area, a gourmet ghetto, you have to ask for butter, since they
    give you olive oil to dunk your bread in. <grin>

    I have memories of being jealous that my best friend got to pinch the berry
    in the margarine bag.  My father had a luncheonette/restaurant and refused
    to have margarine in our house despite my pleadings.  We were a sweet butter
    house.

    After years of switching to margarine from butter it really burned me up to
    learn that research has concluded that butter is healthier after all.  Now I
    have a sweet butter house again.

    --Irene

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:30:13 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fiddler/Whistler

    Mike writes:

>     Speaking of Benny, I was listening to an episode of The Whistler,  and
>     they mentioned a parody of that show by benny called The Fiddler.  Can
>     someone give me the broadcast date for that show?

    10/20/46 (radio)
    2/26/50 (radio)
    1/27/57 (television)
    4/21/64 (television)

    Jack was environmentally-friendly and recycled liberally.

    --Laura  Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:30:54 -0400
    From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sci Fi Theater

    I was recently reading about a show called "Sci Fi Theater".  I was
    interested by this quote:

    "As with many new series, information on this series is not easy to find."

    Why is that?  My question is not just about this one show in particular, but
    more recent shows in general.  Why should there be less known about a show
    that ran from 1989-90 than about a show that ran twenty or thirty years
    before that?

    Love as always, David Rogers

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:31:14 -0400
    From: wilditralian@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Benny/Whistler

    04-06-05

    In issue #109, Mike Illoman asked for the date of the Benny episode
    called, "The Fiddler".  It was 10-26-46.  Rochester was absent for that
    one.

    Regards,

    Jim Arva
    - ------------------
    James H. Arva
    HOME: 201 Short St.; Harrisburg, PA 17109; (717) 545-5709
    E-MAIL:  wilditralian@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:24:16 -0400
    From: skallisjr@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  See The Butter Fly!

    Ted Kneebone, speaking of oleomargerine with artificial color, observed,

>     Eventually, the legislature rescinded the law about colored oleo.  I
>     think the purpose of the prohibition was to help the dairy farmers keep
>     up their sales of butter -- which was also artificially colored!  I think
>     real butter is not yellow, sort of an off-white.

    In 1948, we were living in Seattle.  Among what we listened to was Fred
    Waring, and probably not as a result, my father picked up a Waring
    Blender.  We had many interesting with that gadget, and one of them was
    when we tried to use it to make whipped cream.  We poured cold cream into
    it and turned it on.  It whirred away, until suddenly it went "ka-chunk!"
     We immediately turned it off, and there was a chunk of butter floating
    in buttermilk.  It was yellowish, though not as bright as that stuff we
    bought at the market.
    naturally, we used it right away, kids being kids.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:19:18 -0400
    From: "Don and Kathy Dean" <dxk@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  I swan

      In reference to Chet Norris comment"

      > RE I SWAN didnt't LUM or ABNER used to say that all the time?
      > chet norris

      I have (I think) all the episodes of Lum and Abner in circulation and
      yes I do recall them using that expression. Which reminds me, I recall
      my mother using an expression, " I swan to goodness, if that don't
      beat all". This was in the hills of southern Ohio back in the early '40's.
      See you at the Cincy Con.

      Don Dean - N8IOJ

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:24:52 -0400
    From: Art Chimes <achimes@[removed];
    To: otr <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  National Recording Registry

    The Library of Congress has announced 50 items that will be added to its
    National Recording Registry of key audio recordings of enduring value.

    The complete list is at [removed].

    Several items are of particular interest to OTR devotees, including --

    9. NBC radio broadcast coverage of Charles A. Lindbergh's arrival and
    reception in Washington, [removed] (1927)

    NBC radio's June 11, 1927, coverage of the arrival of Charles A.
    Lindbergh in Washington, [removed], was a landmark technical and journalistic
    achievement for the fledgling network. Radio reporters were stationed at
    the three locations in the city to provide successive, live descriptions
    of the pilot's arrival: the Washington Navy Yard; the procession along
    Pennsylvania Avenue; and his reception at the foot of the Washington
    Monument by President Calvin Coolidge. The young radio network captured
    the voices of President Coolidge and Colonel Lindbergh as they spoke to
    the nation.

    21. Edward R. Murrow broadcast from London (1940)

    Edward R. Murrow's eyewitness news broadcasts of the Battle of Britain
    presented the emotions and sounds of a city under siege to audiences
    throughout the United States. One of the most remembered of that series
    of 1940 broadcasts was on September 21 when Murrow dispassionately
    described the bombing of London from a rooftop during the blitzkrieg.

    22. "We Hold These Truths," radio broadcast (1941)

    Commissioned to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the Bill of Rights,
    writer/producer Norman Corwin's "We Hold These Truths, a drama exploring
    American values, aired one week after the invasion on Pearl Harbor. The
    broadcast was carried on all four radio networks simultaneously to an
    audience of more than 60 million listeners, roughly half of the [removed]
    population at the time. It was the largest audience in history to listen
    to a dramatic presentation.

    28. Jack Benny radio program, March 28, 1948

    Jack Benny's career started in vaudeville, but he soon mastered other
    show business formats, including radio, television and motion pictures.
    Benny is best remembered as the parsimonious straight man to his regular
    casts on radio and television. In the 1948 skit broadcast, Benny was held
    up by a thief. When asked by the robber, "Your money or your life," Benny
    paused and replied, "I'm thinking it over."

    -Art-

    (Me personally, I'm glad to see that Tom Lehrer was recognized.)

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:35:39 -0400
    From: "Mark Wuellner" <mwuellne@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR tributes?

    Does anyone know of any OTR-related statues/monuments/places?  To be more
    specific, I'm talking about things like: Benny's statue  in Waukegan,
    Costello's statue in Paterson, NJ, A War of the Worlds plaque in Grover's
    Mill, and I believe a Lum & Abner store in Pine Ridge, AK.  Those are the
    ones that I know of, I was just wondering if there any more tributes to OTR
    around the country.

    I'm new to the listserv, so if this is too obscure for general discussion,
    please feel free to respond to me individually.  Thanks [removed]

    Mark Wuellner
    mwuellne@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:04 -0400
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  84 charing cross road

    "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed]; writes:

>     I was more than happy some years ago to attend the theatrical version of
>     84 CHARING CROSS ROAD, in which the two leads sit on opposite sides of the
>     stage reading the letters that make up the narrative.

    I hadn't known that's what 84 Charing Cross Road was about! Now I
    understand better the version done on BBC radio's "I'm Sorry I Haven't
    a Clue," called "84 Chicken Cross Road," in which the teams improvise
    "lost" correspondences between famous people.

    Kermyt

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:31 -0400
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fels-Naptha soap

    The notes about castile soap reminded me of the soap my mother used for
    laundry.  It was Fels-Naptha.  She had a Maytag wringer washer, washboard,
    and two big rinsing tubs.

    To get ready for the Monday wash, she used a cheese grater to shred the
    Fel-Naptha into the washer.  The soap had a very pungent smell.  Even if we
    hadn't heard the sound of the washing machine, the smell of the soap told us
    it was wash day!

    And that jogs my memory about "bath night."  Dad turned on the water heater
    Saturdays and Mondays.  Saturday night was the time for our weekly bath.  I
    guess that must have been a common practice.  I don't recall anyone
    complaining!

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD  57401

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:45 -0400
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  I [removed]

    After Lum 'n Abner came Bill Goodwin.  He was the announcer for Burns and
    Allen show.  At one time Swan soap was their sponsor.  Goodwin worked his
    commercials into every episode of the program.  So "I swan" became a common
    expression in conversation of the day, the 1940s.

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD  57401

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:59 -0400
    From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Challenge of the Yukon
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

    I recall listening to "Challenge of the Yukon" along with two of my  cousins.
    The younger cousin was 6 years younger than I.  He misunderstood the
    sponsor's products as  "Paper Cup Wheat and Paper Cup Rice".

    See you in Cincinnati -- Please Wear Your Name Badges.
    Happy Taping -
    Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:54:12 -0400
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Benny Imitator Eddie Carrol in Whittier,
     CA

    The latest Eddie Carrol siting.  This guy gets good PR.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed],1413,207~12026~2800102,[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:56:09 -0400
    From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Thanks for the help

    Thanks to all who responded to my question about identifying the voices of
    secondary characters. Many of the tips I have yet to explore, but I had a
    breakthrough this evening when I looked through my video collection and
    found I had "The Big Baby Jesus" episode of Dragnet. I watched it and sure
    enough there was the  Harry Bartell I  knew from photographs and there he
    was again in the voice I knew from so many radio shows. Thanks, Bob Slate,
    for the information on the Dragnet show. Now I know the voice of Harry
    Bartell.

    Michael Leannah

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