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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 172
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
      Linkletter and Hollywood and Vine     [ "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback ]
      Hollywood and Vine                    [ "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback ]
      Re: Corruption in Rationing           [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Racist Batman                         [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
      'Jap' as a Derogatory Tern            [ "Tom van der Voort" <evan@[removed] ]
      Studio cafe prices?                   [ danhughes@[removed] ]
      More Bela Lugosi                      [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
      Re: Bela Lugosi & OTR                 [ Ron Tilton <octave@[removed]; ]
      Lugosi books                          [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      The Home Front (1938 To 1945)         [ Jim Kitchen <jkitchen@[removed]; ]
      5-20 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Blackouts and song                    [ "William Halbe" <[removed]@veri ]
      Billy Mills and Felix Mills           [ "Jay Ranellucci" <otrfan3@[removed] ]
      Anna Lee                              [ Natalie <nmclain@[removed]; ]
      short article on radio research - Th  [ David Howell <daveeaston@[removed]; ]
      WWII                                  [ "barry" <barry@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:48:48 -0400
    From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi friends,

    	Here is this week's line-up for the week of 5-16-04 on my Olde Tyme
    Radio
    [removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
    Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
    Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
    streaming RealAudio at [removed]

    Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

    We look forward to having you join us!

    	Jerry

    Here's this week's lineup:

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

    THE RADIO GUILD
    5-7-39  "Back Number Up"
    Stars: Parker Fennelly, Effie Parker, Arthur Allen, John Milton, Ian
    McAllister, Douglas McMullen, Harold Gould and Roy Fant

    PASSPORT TO ROMANCE
    Episode 10  5-10-46  "The Case of the Missing Emeralds"
    STARS: Mitzi Green and Larry Brooks, Edward Nugent, Adelaide Klein, Craig
    McDonnell, Alfred Shirley and Laura Clandon
    With:
    MUSIC: Sylvan Levin and his Orchestra
    WRITER/DIRECTOR: Stanley Kaufman
    ANNOUNCER: Don Fredericks
    Irving Berlin Tribute, featuring: "Let Yourself Go", "Doin'
    What Comes Naturally", "A Pretty Girl Is Like A Melody", "I've Got
    The Sun In The Morning And The Moon At Night", "How Deep Is The
    Ocean", "Soft Hands And Sweet Music"

    LAWLESS TWENTIES
    Episode 12   "The Flood Of Bootleg Gold"
    The story of "Dutch Eddie Harris"

    FRANK WATANABE AND THE HONORABLE ARCHIE
    Episode 1  5-21-34  "Dressing for a Date"

    FRANK AND ARCHIE
    Episode 1  10-20-39  "Archie Arrives"

    THE HONORABLE ARCHIE
    Episode 1  1940  "Archie Interviews With The Nettlefold's"
    =======================================

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

    HOPALONG CASSIDY
    MBS    10-11-50    "Gunhawk Convention"
    Stars William Boyd as "Hoppy" and Andy Clyde as "California"

    MELODY RANCH
    CBS/AFRS    1953    "Election"
    Stars: Stars Gene Autry
    Music/Drama/Comedy

    FIBBER McGEE & MOLLY
    NBC    10-15-53    Second chapter of serialized story of McGee's Speech to
    the Executive Club.
    ========================================

    THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

    It's time for The Glowing Dial's All Star Western Round-Up

    Gunsmoke
    #1 "Billy The Kid"
    CBS 4/26/1952
    with William Conrad, Parley Baer, Georgia Ellis, Don Diamond, Harry Bartell,
    Howard McNear, Richard Beals, Paul Dubov, Mary Lansing. Sustained

    The Lone Ranger
    # 1270 "The Iron Horse"
    WXYZ/ABC 5/12/1950
    with Brace Beemer, John Todd. Fred Foy announcing.
    Sponsored by General Mills

    The Roy Rogers Show
    "The Tall Tale Of Pecos Bill"
    MUTUAL 5/8/1945
    with Roy Rogers, Pat Friday, Bob Nolan and the Sons Of The Pioneers and
    guest Porter Hall.
    Sponsored by Goodyear.

    Gene Autry's Melody Ranch
    "Uncle Billy Harlow"
    CBS 9/19/1948
    with Gene Autry, Pat Buttram, Johnny Bond, Cass County Boys, Pinafores, Carl
    Cotner Orchestra.
    Perry Ward announcing.
    Sponsored by Wrigley Gum

    Frontier Town
    # 24 "Gun Trouble Valley"
    SYNDICATED 3/6/1953
    with Reed Hadley
    ====================================

    Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
    shows.

                Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387

      [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
      Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:50:06 -0400
    From: "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Linkletter and Hollywood and Vine

>     People who go to the intersection of Hollywood & Vine in Hollywood,
>     California (as I did in 1999) usually find that it looks like almost any
>     other street corner.

    <snip>

>     Anyway, a tour guide
>     and historic marker both told me the reason Hollywood & Vine is so
>     famous is because Art Linkletter did live, man on the street interviews
>     on that corner during the golden days of radio

    That's very interesting.  Like you, I was disappointed the first time I
    saw Hollywood and Vine.  I assumed that there must have been something
    there at one time -- a radio studio or nightclub perhaps.  This
    Linkletter connection to the term sounds plausible, though I have to
    admit that the phrase "Hollywood and Vine" always seemed a lot sexier
    than any Art Linkletter connection would suggest.

      - Philip

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:50:14 -0400
    From: "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hollywood and Vine

    A quick google search shows that the phrase Hollywood and Vine goes back
    to at least 1945.  In that year a movie with that title was released by
    PRC, one of the poorest of the poverty row studios.  At IMDB there's no
    plot description but since one of the characters is identified as a
    "Studio Head" it obviously must be a Hollywood movie story.  Considering
    that PRC was the company that made this, the term had to have been a
    well worn cliché by then.  I wouldn't be surprised if the term goes back
    to the days of silent movies, though I have absolutely no evidence for
    this.

      - Philip

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:50:49 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Corruption in Rationing

    On 5/18/04 4:52 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

>     There are other scraps of evidence, and much of it depressing.  Some years
>     ago, I heard Richard Nixon, once a lieutenant in one of the war planning
>     departments, discuss how wage and price controls did not work during the war
>     and only encouraged corruption.  I've read contemporary articles about
>     massive fraud in ration coupons, and heard stories about it.

    This is very true, or at least it was in the town where my family lived. I
    talked a lot to my grandparents about the war years when I was a teenager
    just getting interested in the history of the era, and their memories tended
    to be a bit more cynical than the experiences of those who went thru the
    period as kids.

    My grandfather ran a filling station thruout the war years, and had vivid
    memories of the gasoline rationing program. He estimated at least half the
    ration stamps presented to him over the course of the war were counterfeit,
    but like everyone else he just looked the other way. In our area, where there
    was still a lot of farming going on at the time, the most common counterfeits
    were H stamps -- since unregistered farm vehicles were extremely difficult to
    trace.

    Fuel-ration stamps were very often used as a secondary currency to avoid
    *other* rations, especially the meat ration. (My grandfather acknowledged
    allowing a close friend of his unlimited fuel in exchange for a freshly-shot
    deer carcass and a bundle of counterfeit gas stamps. Poached game was a very
    common alternative to compliance with the meat ration, and "deer-jackers" did
    a booming business on the local black market.)

    Counterfeit stamps were widely produced by organized crime and put into
    circulation using the same distribution networks which had proven so
    effective during Prohibition. Unissued bundles of genuine ration stamps could
    also easily be acquired under the table from local OPA representatives for a
    cash payment or an offer of "services". Of all the rationing programs
    administered during WW2, it's likely that none was more thoroughly and
    irredeemably corrupt -- on all of its levels -- than the gasoline rationing
    program.

    My grandfather was too old for military service, but he did serve as a plane
    spotter for the Army. This involved sitting on the roof of the Full Gospel
    Church two nights a week, wearing a tin hat and an overcoat, peering thru
    binoculars in search of enemy aircraft, and taking nips from a pint bottle of
    whiskey to stay warm.  The town where he lived was a strategic location -- it
    was (and still is) the most important military fuel depot in northern New
    England, and even though an air attack was highly unlikely, the authorities
    took no chances.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:26:08 -0400
    From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Racist Batman

    Last weekend I got a whole load of DVDs from Martin Grams Jr.  I must say
    that he has some great stuff, I got quite a parcel and I really like what I
    got.  In fact I have just sent in another order.  One of the things that I
    got was the serial of "Batman".  I was reading some of the comments on the
    digest as to whether the term "Jap" was offensive.  Well, I must say that
    even though I am not the most "politically correct" person in the world,
    some of the phrases used for the Japanese in the Batman serial made even me
    cringe.
    After that I listened to the BBCs "Host Planet Earth" in the show one of the
    characters is a West Indian and in the show he is refered to as "black" and
    later as "coloured".  When I was a child (growing up in England) my father
    taught me not to be rude and therefore he told me that it was rude to say
    "black" and that it was more polite to say "coloured".  Anyway, in the early
    1980's I went on holiday to Texas and I found out that it was the other way
    round.  I think we have been through several different phrases since then.
    I must say that my favourite quote is from Captain Beefheart who said, "We
    are all colored, otherwise you wouldn't be able to see anybone."
      I find it strange to hear words or phrase on old shows that we do not use
    anymore.
    Anyway, that returns me to a Batman question.  Why was Superman on the radio
    more than Batman?  There are quite a number of Superman radio shows about
    but I have next to nothing associated with Batman.

    Love as always, David Rogers

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:26:28 -0400
    From: "Tom van der Voort" <evan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  'Jap' as a Derogatory Tern

         The discussion of Jap as a derogatory term reminds me of my high school
    years, when the word "jap" (lower case) meant an unexpected test or pop
    quiz.  If a teacher sprung a test on us without prior notice, we referred to
    it as a jap.  The word was even used as a verb, as in "Mr. Smith japped us
    today".   In this sense, the word referred not to the Japanese people but to
    a specific event, the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.
         Tom van der Voort

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:44:50 -0400
    From: danhughes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Studio cafe prices?

    I have a receipt from the Paramount Studios Continental Cafe dated March
    21, 1952.  Director Robert Welch bought a "C. Cola", which must be a
    Coke, for which he was charged $[removed] plus a 50-cent "service charge."

    Were prices really this ridiculous for studio cafes, or did perhaps Mr.
    Welch buy a round of Cokes for the house??  Remember, in 1952 a bottled
    Coke from a machine cost a nickel.

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:45:00 -0400
    From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
    To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  More Bela Lugosi

    In addition to the shows already mentioned (I hope I'm not duplicating)
    Bela Lugosi also made the following radio appearances:

    Abbott & Costello - 5/5/48
    Candid Microphone - don't know date
    Command Performance - 11/10/46 - with Bob Hope
    Crime Does Not Pay - 12/12/49
    Fred Allen - 4/25/43
    Mystery House - 'Thirsty Death' - 1944
    Suspense - 2/2/43 - 'The Doctor Prescribed Death'

    Irene

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:45:06 -0400
    From: Ron Tilton <octave@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Bela Lugosi & OTR

    Just a small correction to the posting by Brian L Bedsworth who states
    that Bob Hope hosted the Command Performance with Lugosi. Actually
    Wendel Niles hosted this show. This "Command Performance" (#238) was a
    takeoff on "Superman" and was similar to "Dick Tracy in B Flat".  Bob
    Hope played the "the Man of Steel", Paulette Goddard was Lois Lane, Bela
    Lugosi was the mad scientist and Sterling Holloway was Lugosi's
    assistant. It is a very entertaining show with Hope in top form as
    "Superman".

    Ron Tilton
    octave@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:58:08 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lugosi books

    Tomas Biddy commented

> >     ...yet to be documented in any Lugosi book I've read)...

>     Please let me know the titles and authors as I would like to read these,
>     too.

    Probably what is the best book written about Lugosi ("best" defined as
    covering every aspect of Lugosi's career in detail) is Gary Don Rhodes and
    Richard Sheffield's LUGOSI: HIS LIFE IN FILMS, ON STAGE AND IN THE HEARTS OF
    HORROR LOVERS.  As the length of the title suggests, it's a McFarland
    release and it's a little expensive (open those wallets wide), but it's the
    best one-stop source.

    The next best is probably Gregory William Mank's KARLOFF & LUGOSI: THE STORY
    OF A HAUNTING COLLABORATION, also another McFarland book.  This one coveres
    the Karloff/Lugosi aspect very tightly and heavily in background production
    of their films and their personal lives on and off the screen.  This book
    came out about 20 years ago and is actually going through a revision, due
    for publication in a year or two which will, no doubt, be highly
    anticipated.

    Midnight Marquee published a book entitled BELA LUGOSI, edited by Gary and
    Susan Svehla of Midnight Marquee.  It was one of their first books published
    and one of the few good books worth purchasing.  Each chapter dealt with a
    different movie that featured Lugosi, and some of the aspects documented are
    noteworthy but don't expect much (if any) about Lugosi's radio career.

    Arthur Lennig wrote a book entitled THE IMMORTAL COUNT: THE LIFE AND FILMS
    OF BELA LUGOSI which isn't bad, but beware of Richard Bojarsky's THE
    COMPLETE FILMS OF BELA LUGOSI cause it's mostly a picture book and doesn't
    go into any detail otehr than Lugosi's movies.

    Over the years I have come to the conclusion that OTR is a somewhat obscure
    field to explore when it comes to Hollywood stars so whenever a book comes
    out about a particular movie star / Hollywood actor, I generally flip
    through the pages to see if anything about their radio work was documented.
    Though that alone doesn't tell ya if a book is comprehensive, it is one of
    three or four aspects I look for when deciding to buy a book or borrow a
    copy from my local library.  Very little has been explored when it comes to
    Lugosi's radio work, by Rhodes' book is about as good as it's going to get
    under the circumstances.
    Martin Grams, Jr.

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:24:09 -0400
    From: Jim Kitchen <jkitchen@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Home Front (1938 To 1945)

      Those reminiscing about the war years may be interested in The Home
    Front (1938 to 1945) where the unforgettable drama of the war years in
    America are re-created through the actual voices and music of the people
    who lived them. This 8 part series distributed by The Mindís Eye on 4
    audio cassettes illuminates the complex events of the War Years in
    America, 1938 to 1945. The actual voices of FDR, Churchhill, General
    MacArthur, Tokyo Rose and hundreds of other historical figures are
    skillfully blended with the music of the Big Bands, the famous radio
    shows, and the war-time movies that kept America going. The Home Front
    brings to life a time and a place and a people never to be forgotten.
    This historical treasure is brilliantly written and narrated by Edward
    Brown, Frank Gorin and William B. Williams.

    Jim Kitchen

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:24:17 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-20 births/deaths

    May 20th births

    05-20-1899 - Stan Lomax - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-26-1987
    sportscaster: "Evening Journal Sports"
    05-20-1899 - Virginia Sale - Urbana, IL - d. 8-23-1992
    actress: Martha "Those We Love"
    05-20-1908 - Jimmy Stewart - IN, PA - d. 7-2-1997
    actor: Britt Ponset "Six Shooter"
    05-20-1909 - Jerry Hausner - Cleveland, OH - d. 4-1-1993
    actor: "Lum and Abner"; "Silver Theatre"
    05-20-1920 - George Gobel - Chicago, IL - d. 2-24-1991
    comedian, actor, singer: (Lonesome George) Jimmy "Tom Mix"; "National Barn
    Dance"
    05-20-1926 - Miles Davis - Alton, IL - d. 9-29-1991
    sideman: "Billy Eckstien Orchestra"
    05-20-1936 - Anthony Zerbe - Long Beach, CA
    actor: "Earplay"

    May 20th deaths

    06-30-1920 - Dean Harens - South Bend, IN - d. 5-20-1996
    actor: Arthur Anderson "We, the Abbotts"
    07-07-1919 - Jon Pertwee - Chelsea, England - d. 5-20-1996
    actor: "Waterlogged Spa"; "Up the Pole"; "The Navy Lark"
    11-09-1889 - Claude Rains - London, England - d. 5-20-1967
    actor: "Shakesperian Circle"; "This Is War!"; "Presenting Claude Rains"
    11-28-1917 - Elliott Lewis - NYC - d. 5-20-1990
    actor, director: Frankie Remley "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"; "On Stage";
    "Mr. Aladdin"
    12-06-1909 - Lyn Murray - London, England - d. 5-20-1989
    conductor: "Chesterfield Presents"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Ford Theatre"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:24:26 -0400
    From: "William Halbe" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Blackouts and song

    Was the beautiful World War Two song "When The Lights
    Go On Again" inspired by the blackouts around the world?

    Bill Halbe

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:30:21 -0400
    From: "Jay Ranellucci" <otrfan3@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Billy Mills and Felix Mills

    Does anyone on this list know if Billy Mills and Felix Mills were related?
    Also were Billy Liebert and Richard Liebert related?
    Just curious.   Jay

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:44:56 -0400
    From: Natalie <nmclain@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Anna Lee

    The lovely actress Anna Lee passed away last Friday on May 14th.  She
    was in films like How Green Was My Valley, Whatever Happened To Baby
    Jane, Fort Apache, The Sound Of Music and many more.  For over the
    last 20 years, she played the gracious Lila Quartermain on General
    Hospital until last year.  She appeared with Jack Benny's USO troupe
    during WWII when they were in Africa and Iran.  I know that she
    appeared on Jack Benny's shortwave broadcast that was aired from I
    believe Cairo.  Did she ever appear on Jack Benny's regular show? She
    also appeared on a Screen Guild Theater version of China Seas.  Does
    anyone know of any other radio appearances of Anna Lee?

    Natalie McLain

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:45:34 -0400
    From: David Howell <daveeaston@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  short article on radio research - The
     Chronicle Review

    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:46:41 -0400
    From: "barry" <barry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  WWII

>     But WWII is probably the only time in the history since the revolutionary
>     war that America has pulled together for a common goal (?)

    Obviously you're not old enough to remember the Revolutionary War. :)

>     >From what I've read, less than 1/3 of the people in the colonies supported

    the revolution.  Many people were killed because they considered themselves
    to be British citizens and spoke up against the revolution.  A lot of people
    left America.

    Of those who did support the revolution, only a minority wanted seperation
    from England.  Most wanted some problems fixed but wanted the colonies to
    remain British.

    Since the Declaration of Independance was called that, I guess the
    leadership might have intended seperation.  My memory on all this is a
    little vague.  I read about it many years ago.  I can't remember if the
    Declaration was intended as a serious announcement of seperation or as a
    tool to get the British to react.

    But pull together we did not, as I read it.

    I do think we did pull together after 9-11 pretty well.  The scale was a lot
    smaller than in WWII but it was still pretty impressive.

    Barry

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