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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 134


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Lost Programs
	 Clayton Moore? (re LR Ownership)
	 Museums
	 Re: Real Audio for Archiving
	 Info on Elgin group
	  About Me
	 ARCI Radiofest
	 Re: Real Audio for Archiving
	 An aside regarding Clayton Moore and his mask
	 CBS Radio Mystery Theatre
	 Lone Ranger - some truths.
	  Real Audio for OTR
	 Fwd: name of old radio program
	 Re: [removed] Digest V96 #133

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:32:05 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lost Programs
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

The Museum of Television and Radio is looking for tapes of the following 
lost programs.

More information at: [removed]

RADIO

Harding/Cox Election Results (KDKA, Pittsburgh--Nov. 2, 1920): 
Considered to be the first official radio broadcast, only a few 
re-creations are known to exist. Also wanted are other early KDKA 
broadcasts.

First Major League All-Star Baseball Game (NBC--July 6, 1933): The 
American League defeated the National League by a score of 4-2 at 
Comiskey Park.

[removed] Kaltenborn (CBS): Missing broadcasts from the "dean of radio 
commentators" include a 1932 interview with Adolf Hitler and a Sept. 3, 
1936, report from the border between France and Spain during the Spanish 
Civil War.

King Biscuit Time (KFFA, Helena, Ariz.): Blues program which aired from 
the '40s through the '80s featured Sonny Boy Williamson and was 
sponsored by King Biscuit Flour.

Alan Freed (1942-58): The deejay who coined the term "rock 'n' roll" 
began his career in 1942 at WKST in New Castle, Pennsylvania. No tapes 
of his six-month engagement there are known to exist.

Early Rock 'n' Roll and R&B Deejays (late '40s and early '50s): There 
are no known recordings of [removed] King on WDIA in Memphis or Elmore James 
on WOKJ in Jackson, Miss., or deejays Rice Miller, Muddy Waters, Howlin' 
Wolf in Chicago and the South.

Elvis Presley (WHBQ, Memphis, 1954-57): Presley made his first on-air 
appearance with deejay Dewey Phillips on July 5, 1954. Presley, though, 
thought it was a rehearsal and didn't realize he was actually on the 
air.

First Successful All-News Station (WINS-AM, New York City, 1965): The 
station switched from top 40 to all news, but only a bit of the first 
news broadcasts are known to survive.

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:34:22 -0500
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Clayton Moore? (re LR Ownership)
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Thom Gooding wrote:
>If memory serves,it was rumored that Clayton Moore had obtained the rights
>to the Lone Ranger.  He has passed on now and such rights may have
>transferred.

If Clayton Moore has indeed passed on, I somehow missed that info in all
the sources I have for such news.  Can anyone confirm?

>Another part of the rumor was that he had simply usurped the
>character in his later years because appearing as the LR was his only source
>of income.  Any  truth?

Well, that would depend upon your point of view.  The Wrather Corp., or its
successor, certainly treated him like a usurper when releasing that
godawful Legend of the LR movie in the 80s, and for a while he was
compelled to make personal appearances wearing an oversize pair of dark
glasses in place of a mask.  But I think that was eventually settled.

John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:08:00 -0400
From: Adrian_Cosentini@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Museums
Message-ID: <16e64e30@[removed]>

     A couple of days ago Bob Jennings made some 
     comments concerning Museums dealing with 
     Broadcasting History. Early in my career as 
     an audio engineer I had the good fortune to 
     work at The Museum of Broadcasting now known 
     as the Museum of Television and Radio here in 
     New York City.
     
     This was a great job for me since most of my 
     time was spent remastering and restoring OTR. 
     I mean think of it, spending 35 hours a week 
     working on Fred Allen, Jack Benny, Orson 
     Welles, [removed] Kaltenborne Rudy Valle etc. etc.
     The problem was the money. Most nonprofit 
     institutions pay peanuts. Especially if your 
     not management. In a town like New York where 
     everything is expensive the kind of salaries 
     these institutions are willing to pay people 
     will not attract the most talented or 
     conscientious people to stay. 
     
     I'm not saying that the people who work there 
     don't care or aren't talented. There are many 
     fine people who work at these institutions. 
     But they are under paid and very over worked. 
     
     I get the impression that the main focus of 
     The Museum of Television & Radio is fund 
     raising. Of course that's important and they 
     should do it. But in this whirlwind of fund 
     raising I feel certain priorities get lost. 
     Something as simple as cataloging falls 
     behind especially if you go through three 
     different catalogers in four years. 
     
     So you have a situation where there is all 
     these radio shows ready to be listened to but 
     they've never been put in the main data base.
     The radio fan and the researcher in 
     particular never get a chance to hear the 
     program.
     
     It's true that a lot of material that gets 
     donated will just sit in a vault for a long 
     time before someone gets around to making it 
     or a copy accessible. Of course the big 
     problem with that is things can get lost or 
     forgotten about.
     
     The solution for any potential donor of 
     materials is, don't give them the original. 
     Make arrangements to have it copied and 
     donate the copy. I know that the sound 
     engineers at The M of T&R are very good (I 
     trained them). The video engineer is a very 
     dedicated hard working person. But you 
     wouldn't believe the amount of work that gets 
     dumped on these guys. And the same goes for 
     most of the workers there. 
     
     They are put in a real tight spot. That's why 
     most people don't stay to long. Whenever you 
     have a situation with a relatively high 
     turnover work tends to slow down because of 
     all the retraining. And with the specialized 
     knowledge one needs for most of the jobs 
     there, things get lost in the shuffle.
     
     I'm not criticizing the people who work at 
     the M of T&R. However the efficiency should 
     (must) be improved if this kind of 
     institution can be of real service to the 
     public.
     
     Adrian Cosentini
     Audio Engineer

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:42:19 -0400
From: Michael Carraher <carraher@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Real Audio for Archiving
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

BTW, Yesterday USA -- an audio service for cable systems which 
broadcasts OTR and related programming 24 hours a day -- is available on 
The Web at [removed]  Programming is accessed using 
Real Audio [removed]

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 09:58
From: "bill harris" <billhar@[removed]>
To: "otr digest" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Info on Elgin group
Message-Id: <m0u7lGi-000YApC@[removed]>

>I am looking to obtain information on a group of old-time radio enthusiasts
>whom I believe meet every year for a big convention/antique radio sale in
>Elgin, Ill. Any information on how to contact this group would be
>appreciated as I believe they have something planned for August and I want
>to know the dates, etc.

RADIOFEST is hosted by the Antique Radio Club of Illinois and will be 
held on August 28-31 this year. It will be held at the Holiday Inn
Holidome and Convention Center, 345 River Road in Elgin.
For more information contact Jeff Aulik, 1708 Parkview Ave., Rockford IL 
61107 (815)399-1902 evenings and weekends.

Bill Harris 

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:13:31 -0500
From: Bradford <ibradford@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject:  About Me
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

 My name is Isaiah B. Bradford,Jr., I'm a senior programmer/analyst for
the Chicago Public Schools and I'm a Professional Photographer, doing
weddings and portraits. I freelance mainly out of the South Side of
Chicago, yet will travel to any area North, West and East also. Anyone
looking for a good wedding photographer can email me at
"ibradford@[removed]" or phone (312) 995-6583 and leave a
message. 
  I listen to old time radio programming over WNIB-WNIZ FM ([removed]) on
Saturdays 1:00PM - 5:00PM CDT "Those Were The Days" with Chuck
Schaden and "When Radio Was"  on WMAQ-AM (670) on MON-FRI from
12:00 Midnight to 1:00AM with Stan Freberg.  When I'm not doing a
wedding or on some other photography assignment, I record the
broadcast programs and play them back on long road trips and late at
night.
  If anyone needs information concerning a convention or any question
on old time radio, please contact me. If I have the information than I'll email
you back or get you in touch with someone who does have the
information. 

   Remember the "Greatest exericise for your imagination is Old Time
Radio".  Until next time, I'll be listening for you.

       Isaiah B. Bradford,Jr.
      

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:05:29 -0700
From: alvo@[removed] (Alan Voorhees)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ARCI Radiofest
Message-Id: <v01530501ad93d8325e96@[[removed]]>

Antique Radio Club of Illinois holds their annual "radiofest" in Elgin on
August 28-31.

Club info:
Antique Radio Club of Illinois (ARCI). Carolyn Knipfel, RR 3, 200 Langham,
Morton, IL 61550. Pub: ARCI News, quarterly. Dues: $[removed] Annual August
Radiofest and meets during year.

There are several other large radio meets each year. Info on them can be
found at [removed]

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:52:20 -0400
From: Charles Mazza <flash@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Real Audio for Archiving
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

I am presently using RA for much of my OTR archiving. I have a Syquest EZ135
backup drive which is as fast (or almost) as a hard drive. Each cassette
holds 135 MB or about 100 shows in RA [removed] format and 170 shows in RA [removed]
format. Each cassette costs about $[removed] and the drive is about $[removed] I
find this to be an excellent storage method since the speed of the drive is
so high and it takes so little room to hold all those shows (a cassette is
the size of a [removed]" disk). My major problem is with recording streaming RA.
For example, if i want to record something playing on YUSA, how do i do this
without connecting my tape recorder to my sound card (and therefore losing
sound quality by recording it back to my hard drive)? Is it possible to
record onto the Hard Drive (like, for instance, a file in .wav format can)?
Is it a quirk of streaming technology that this can't be done? Any experts
out there with any ideas to share?

Regards

[removed]

BTW, anyone interested in trading programs by email?

			Comic Book Net-Solutions

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30,000 comics, graphic novels and comic related cards available including a
vast selection of Golden and Silver Age titles. Get a listing of our
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 21:08:40 +0200
From: gberkson@[removed] (Gary Berkson)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: An aside regarding Clayton Moore and his mask
Message-Id: <v01540b03ad9454cf5fab@[[removed]]>

As I remember, Moore was also reluctant to be seen in public without the
mask as he identified so closely with the Lone Ranger. Strange, considering
that you can see him in several Republic serials which are out on video,
including "Jesse James Rides Again" and "Superman"...

Gary

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 14:40 CDT
From: dleif@[removed] (Douglas Leif)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: CBS Radio Mystery Theatre
Message-Id: <m0u7oi2-000Y4hC@[removed]>

CBS Radio Mystery Theatre attempted to revive OTR drama.  CBSRMT ran
weeknights from 1974 through 1984.  Narrated by [removed] "Macabre" Marshall,
under the direction of H. "Pleasant Dreams" Brown, and often starred Earl
Hammond, Mende; Kramer, Fred "Herman Munster" Gwynne, Agnes "Mother-in-law"
Morehead (also The Shadow's Lovely Ms. Lane), and others.  Fantastic show.
I've been trying to hunt down copies of this stuff for years.  Who is this
"Lou" who supposedly has a catalog?  Any more info on obtaining these
"Wonderful adventures in the Macabre?"  Thanks!  Pleasant Dreeeeeeeeeeeeams???

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:12:11 -0400
From: FranStrike@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger - some truths.
Message-ID: <960412161209_270430497@[removed]>

Hi all,

In recent days I've read some interesting questions,  theories and
suppositions about my favorite champion of justice.  It's taken me a few days
to respond since I've been out of town, but since "Lone" stands for truth and
justice, and since it's most gratifying for me to realize that this character
still has so many loyal fans, I thought I'd best set the record straight
about the points in question.

First off, Broadway Video Entertainment IS the current owner of Ranger
property, along with Sargeant Preston of the Yukon, Lassie, a bunch of other
[removed] and oh yeah, Saturday Night Live.  The transfer of ownership
(string of succession if you will) from Wrather Corp to BVE is a bit muddy in
my [removed] there was a Southgate Entertainment involved for a while, and also
a Pladium Limited [removed], but Broadway (BVE) has owned it for about 4
years now.  I understand Loren Michaels is the sole owner of BVE.

The hassel between Wrather Corp and Clayton Moore revolved around him wearing
the mask and making appearences as the Lone Ranger (remember when he made a
few commercials wearing sunglasses instead of the mask) around the time that
Clinton Spilsbury appeared in the last Ranger motion picture.  

Actually, one of the first things that BVE did when acquiring the property
was to return the mask to [removed] allowing him use of it for life as he
saw fit.  I met and talked with Ranger Moore at the 60th Anniversary
celebration in 1993 (Lone Pine California), he was healthy, and happily
retired.  By his own choice I believe, because of his advancing age, he no
longer appeared in costume, or with the mask. 

As of a few months ago he remained healthy and happy,  his daughter reports
that he's finishing up a book about his life and tenure as the Lone Ranger.
 There is an outstanding newsletter published in Forks, Washington (The
Silver Bullet Newsletter) and the publisher contacts Clayton periodically to
pass on recent developments about his life.  If any of you are interested in
the newsletter contact me directly and I'll let you know the address and
ordering information.

In other matters relating to the Ranger.  I read in Variety a few months ago,
that BVE had signed and Agreement with 20th Century Fox, Family Films to
produce another Lone Ranger motion picture.  I've talked with the folks at
BVE and they want to do a movie that is patterned after the radio dramas more
than the TV programs.  The radio scripts really were much more substantial
(as if I have to tell any of you).  Naturally, the owners want to push the
envelope a bit, and create a whole new generation of interest in the
[removed] and I can understand how that would--realistically--require some
changes in the way the character is depicted.  On the other hand the BVE does
NOT want to upset the traditional Ranger fans (old-timers like many of us).
 I understand that the plan on lots of action from start to finish, and the
character will be a bit more Indiana Jones-ish.

Now about those square inches of land in the [removed]  well I had one too.
 Long since lost.  BUT if anybody wants a square inch of New Jersey  drop me
a note!  (ouch, why did I say that and invite all the jokes)

My best always,

Fran Striker, Jr.  <FranStrike@[removed]>   

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Date: 12 Apr 1996 16:04:23 -0500
From: "John Hale" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "OTR Posting" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject:  Real Audio for OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The 2 major drawbacks are the quality of the sound & the cost of the recorder.
 

The advantage of Real Audio is that it allows us to share some of our OTR
collections with each other, as Jim is doing.  Many Internet providers give
5 or 10 MB's of server space for user home pages.  
Re:

>Anyone else have any thoughts on using Real Audio?

>[removed] It works much better with a Pentium PC and at least 8 MB of memory.

>Bill Kearns

I've also been using Real Audio for listening to Yesterday USA and thought
about attempting to hook up a cassette recorder and see what the output sounds
like on tape.  I have the latest [removed] release, but there is still a bassy
harshness to the signal.  Perhaps a equalizer would clean it up prior to
taping;  anyone attempted this?  

 I know that some of the YUSA folks are on this list; I notice that most of
the music stations on AudioNet require a [removed] connection, but Yesterday USA
uses [removed]  Was the higher speed an option or would it improve the quality?

In terms of storing OTR on disk, another option might be Iomega Zip or Jazz
drives ( or some other removable media).  The Zips are about $17 per 100 Meg
in quantity of 3. The Jazz cartridges hold 1 gig.  Access time is slower than
hard drives and I don't know if that is an issue.  I can do some tests this
weekend.

I also would like to hear from others using RealAudio.

John Hale
johnhale@[removed]
Dallas, TX  

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:28:59 -0700
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Michael Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Fwd: name of old radio program
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,

I got this message but don't know the answer.  Anybody got any clues?

Frank

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:59:47 -0400
Message-ID: <960412105946_512070144@[removed]>
To: passage@[removed]
Subject: name of old radio program
Status: RO

About three years ago, while camping in Colorado, we listened to a radio
station out of Wyoming that was broadcasting an old radio show. We were
slightly intoxicated at the time we were listening, so do not even know for
sure what program it was, although my husband believes that it was "Commander
X" or "X minus One". We do, however, remember the general storyline, as it
was extremely funny, and would love to find this program again.
The story was about eggs of some alien race, which drew for their sustenance
the intell-
igence of man. The world was becoming stupid, as zombies, and no one could
figure out why, until the eggs were found. The show ended when one of the men
of the crew volunteered to be lowered down on a rope (drunk, because if
drunk, your mind was already gone and you couldn't be affected by the egg
draining your mind) to destroy the egg.
If you or anyone else can help us with the name/date of this show please
e-mail at:
Bill2134@[removed]   or snailmail at:3429 Home, Independence, MO 64052. Thanks!
 

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Date: 12 Apr 96 21:13:23 EDT
From: "Norman G. Cox" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Re: [removed] Digest V96 #133
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Vic and Sade
In the early days of this show the only cast members were Vic and Sade and their
adopted son Rush.  It was mentioned in passing that Rush was the son of Sade's
sister and that she could not afford to keep him.  Not an unusual circumstance
in the depression years of the '30's.

In my local library, rummaging thru their OTR holdings, I found a piece written
by the show's author, Paul Rhymer, that had been released by his widow for
publication years after the show had ended.  Not in script form and evidently
not intended to be part of the daily output, it dealt with how Rush came into
their lives and his importance to them.  

I cannot find my notes.  They must be in my McGee closet somewhere.  Does anyone
remember the publication? I tried retracing my work but have not had any luck.
The little grey cells are not working  at all well. 
  
I hope to find it again sometime.   The chase is half the fun, I know, but
enough is enough.  Help anyone?

Norman 

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