Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #340
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 10/23/2001 9:03 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2001 : Issue 340
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  American Radio Archives               [ garcher@[removed] ]
  Re: CDs vs. wire recordings           [ "James B. Wood, [removed]" <woodjim@ ]
  Tello-Test (Jr. Edition)              [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
  Tello Test                            [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Re: 16" turntables                    [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
  Jacks killer list                     [ OTR1967@[removed] ]
  TELL_O_TEST                           [ Backus2@[removed] ]
  Amos and [removed](Oh Floorwalker)       [ "Tim Lones" <tallones@[removed]; ]
  Bakersfield OTR                       [ "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback ]
  Directing, Producing, etc.            [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Re: A&A Xmas Show                     [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Re: Tello-Test                        [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  OTR Novels                            [ cgumprich1@[removed] ]
  A Request.                            [ Ron & Jeanne Crowley <rccjmc@earthl ]

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:10:20 -0400
From: garcher@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  American Radio Archives

This is about the American Radio Archives, rather than a job offer
for an archvist, that I saw on a genealogical librarians' mail list.

                                -=-=-

Special Collections/Archivist
Thousand Oaks, CA

The Special Collections Department of the Thousand Oaks Library is home to
one of the largest archival collections on the history of radio
broadcasting in the United States (The American Radio Archives), as well
as an extensive local history collection.  Materials include books,
manuscripts, photographs, documents, pamphlets, scripts, sound recordings,
and realia.  Duties include collection development; cataloging; archival
processing; preparation of finding aids and other printed and electronic
promotional materials; donor relations; supervision of paraprofessional
staff and provision of research assistance to scholars and the general
public.  ALA accredited MLS is required and archival experience or course
work is preferred, but specialized training beyond MLS may be available
for professionals interested in this area of librarianship.
[removed]

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:10:37 -0400
From: "James B. Wood, [removed]" <woodjim@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: CDs vs. wire recordings

Shawn Wells wrote:

I could be worng though, and maybe wire
will return as a recording media along with
transcriptions.

I doubt that transcriptions will make a comeback, but
wire recordings definitely have something going for them.
As Art Shifrin will tell you, they last almost indefinitely with
insignificant loss of quality.  The stainless steel wire won't
rust or oxidize; just keep the wire on the spool and it'll be
there and playable a hundred years from now.

Jim Wood

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:11:51 -0400
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tello-Test (Jr. Edition)

Bruce Elliot and Dan McCullough did a local version of Tello Test on WOR,
New
York as I recall. It appears that Tello Test was syndicated in the manner
of,
say, TV's Romper Room, with each city have its own host or [removed];<

There was also a "junior edition" called Tello-Kid Test, which Bruce and
Dan hosted on WOR.  I remember it well, because one day they picked my
postcard and called me to ask a preliminary question: When the owl and
the pussycat went to see, they took some honey and plenty of money
wrapped up in what? The correct answer could win you a Ten-Yen Chinese
Puzzle.  Then they asked me the jackpot question, which by then had
grown in $5 increments to $100, plus a bicycle.  Ready?  Of what country
was Maximilian emperor and Carlotta empress?
I won!
The next day I told about it in school and only one other kid in my 5th
grade class had heard the program.  I didn't know if that qualified as
good daytime rating, but at least I had a witness to the fact that I
wasn't making it up.  And someone heard my radio debut.

Answer to question #1: A five-pound note.  Answer to jackpot question:
Mexico.
(They never did send me the Ten-Yen Chinese Puzzle).

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:23:28 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tello Test

Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:08:57 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]

TELLO-TEST Quiz was on the air in Boston on WNAC in the 40's with
host, Fred Lang.

I remember it in the early 50s, with Bill Hahn hosting.  At the time, he
hosted a morning show,
which was the typical music and information morning show, called "Breakfast
with Bill."  Later in
the morning, he did Tello-Test.  I only heard it when I was home from school,
sick.  Then my
mother would put a radio in my room.  She would leave it on WNAC, and I heard
whatever was
on, all day.

 A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                         [removed]
  15 Court Square, Suite 210                      lawyer@[removed]
 Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:23:49 -0400
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: 16" turntables

At 11:06 AM 10/21/01 -0400, you wrote:

I recently purchased two 16" transcription discs online but can't fit them
on my turntable!
Does anyone know where I can find a turntable that I can play these on?

Call KAB at 908-754-1479. That is where I bought mine.

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:23:58 -0400
From: OTR1967@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jacks killer list

Hi Everyone,
I was wondering if anyone knows why Jacks Killer List is not up and running?
I've had the opportunity to use it for going to various sites. Now I seem to
come up with no longer on server. HELP!!!!!!! Thanks
Elmore
otr1967@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:24:06 -0400
From: Backus2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  TELL_O_TEST

   I remember Tell-O-Test in Pittsburgh. I believe it was on about 6:00 PM
and hosted by Jim Westover. Not sure of the station, but probably KDKA or
WJAS.
                                                      Dick Backus

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:24:25 -0400
From: "Tim Lones" <tallones@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Amos and [removed](Oh Floorwalker)

     That particular show was the Traditional Amos and Andy Christmas Show
Don't remember the specific title, but I have both the Radio and Television
(Andy Plays Santa Claus is the title on the video) versions of the
[removed] was probably broadcast each year from 1943 [removed](guessing)
about the Mid-Fifties Elizabeth will have a much more complete answer I am
sure. I loved that episode.  It had just enough gentle Humor but really
focused on the meaning of [removed]

     As an aside, I really enjoy Holiday shows (Radio and TV) of the 50's
and 60's.
It really takes you [removed] the stories seemed [removed] meaning of the
Holiday seemed much more in [removed] my two cents.


Tim Lones
East Sparta, Ohio

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:24:53 -0400
From: "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bakersfield OTR

Pam wrote:
I live in Bakersfield CA and would like to know if there is a radio
station and time I can hear broadcasts of the OTR programs?  I use to >hear
them when I lived in San Diego a few years back.  Really miss
them.  Please help.

It's possible that she would be able to pick up the news station 1070 from
LA.  It's a very powerful station.  They play OTR every night at, I think, 9
PM.

  - Philip

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:25:31 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Directing, Producing, etc.

Dear Alan (& co.)-

While it's certainly true that DeMille was definitely not the
producer, still, the duties you describe are those of the director.

Just a note for folks not in the biz: these roles are pretty fluid in
reality. There've been many "activist" producers (Selznick, Speilberg) who
basically co-direct.
And of course, many directors whose tasks (by choice, or default) are so
large as to involve production.

Even if CB were the producer, [removed], assembling the talent, the
financing, generally overseeing the production, he might very well
have deferred to his DIRECTOR when it came to actually performing in
the show.

There are much better scholars on this board than I (paging Elizabeth, et
al.), but just about all I've read (barring puff publicity from the time)
says that [removed] really only had two connections with the Lux show: hosting,
and drawing a [removed]
-Craig Wichman
Actor/Writer/Producer (and chief bottle washer)
QUICKSILVER RADIO THEATER

[removed] And, one who is deeply honored to be performing this Thur. at FOTR, for
Mercury Theater's Arthur Anderson

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:26:16 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: A&A Xmas Show

On 10/22/01 11:10 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

I am seeking the date and/or title of an A & A episode which had
Kingfish or Andy (I forget which) taking a job as a department store
Santa and calling "Oh, Mr. Floorwalker" whenever he encounters a problem
child or parents.  Can anyone help?

This was the regular Christmas episode -- entitled simply "Christmas
Show" --  which ran every December from 1943 thru 1954. The Department
Store Santa sequence, written by Robert J. Ross, made up the first
two-thirds of the episode, with Freeman Gosden's famous exegesis on the
Lord's Prayer (first presented in 1940) taking up the final third.

There were subtle changes in the script from year to year, but the basic
ingredients were always the same: Amos's daughter Arbadella (Barbara Jean
Wong) admired a talking doll displayed in the window of a Harlem
department store, but times were tough, and Amos and Ruby couldn't afford
to buy it for her. Andy, who was Arbadella's godfather, resolved to help,
and took a seasonal job as a Santa in that same store in order to earn
the doll -- putting up with all sorts of strife from the children. He
then takes the doll to Amos and Ruby's flat on Christmas eve and places
his gift under the tree. After Andy leaves, Amos goes in to sit at
Arbadella's bedside for a few minutes, and the Lord's Prayer scene
follows.

Air dates for the half-hour version of the Christmas episode were as
follows, with currently-circulating versions marked with an asterisk.

Volume 1 Episode 12: 12/24/43
Volume 2 Episode 14: 12/24/44*
Volume 3 Episode 13: 12/25/45
Volume 4 Episode 13: 12/24/46*
Volume 5 Episode 13: 12/23/47
Volume 6 Episode 11: 12/19/48
Volume 7 Episode 13: 12/25/49
Volume 8 Episode 13: 12/24/50*
Volume 9 Episode 13: 12/23/51*
Volume 10 Episode 14: 12/21/52
Volume 11 Episode 13: 12/20/53
Volume 12 Episode 13: 12/19/54*

The episode was also adapted for the A&A television series in 1952, and
Correll and Gosden made a rare on-camera appearance at the beginning of
the original telecast to introduce the presentation.

Elizabeth

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:26:37 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Tello-Test

On 10/22/01 11:10 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

Bruce Elliot and Dan McCullough did a local version of Tello Test on WOR,
New
York as I recall. It appears that Tello Test was syndicated in the manner
of,
say, TV's Romper Room, with each city have its own host or [removed];<

This is exactly how it was done -- it was more a franchising promotion
than a syndication package, and was developed in Chicago in the late
1930s by an entrepreneur by the name of Walter Schwimmer. One station in
any given market would buy a franchise to use the trademarked title and
the copyrighted format, and would then produce the program using its own
talent and questions and answers supplied by Schwimmer's office. At its
peak, "Tello-Test" was heard in hundreds of markets, large and small.

A December 1946 recording survives of the Elliot/McCullough WOR version
of "Tello-Test," which was sponsored by the Vick Chemical Company. The
hosts call randomly chosen phone numbers in the Greater New York area,
and when anyone answers, a question is asked. The people called are not
heard on air, and the hosts have to fill in the substance of what they
say in their own sides of the conversation. This comes across as rather
ridiculous at times -- such as with one contestant who has never heard of
"Tello-Test," and has no idea what the call is all about, leaving the
host to try and sputter out an explanation before she hangs up on him.

Despite the obvious shortcomings, the format was quite popular, and
lasted well into the 1950s. A "Tello-Test Quiz Book" was published by
Grosset and Dunlap in 1954, containing a selection of questions and
answers used on the program.

Elizabeth

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:38:59 -0400
From: cgumprich1@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Novels

I have just finished reading "Two O'Clock, Eastern Wartime," and was
fascinated by the depiction of life "behind-the-scenes" at an OTR
station.

Can anyone tell me of any other novels with OTR as the central theme?

-Chris Gumprich
Winnipeg, Canada

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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 19:13:55 -0400
From: Ron & Jeanne Crowley <rccjmc@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  A Request.

Do any of our fellow OTR hobbyists have episodes of "Baby Snooks"?  My
brother was a great fan of the program, but doesn't have a source for
searching for same.  Assistance, please?  Thanks.  ronc

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