Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #173
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Date: 6/11/2007 10:19 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 173
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  RAY ERLENBORN                         [ Dave Parker <dave@[removed] ]
  Ray Erlenborn                         [ Larry Gassman <lgsinger@[removed] ]
  Re: lost (until now) 1931 transcript  [ Grams46@[removed] ]
  Matt Cvetic                           [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
  Kids radio re-creation                [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
  Matt Cvetic                           [ "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@[removed]; ]
  thanks to those who introduced us     [ fmazzar771@[removed] ]
  My introduction to OTR                [ Valerie Thompson <thompsonv@RuderFi ]
  Re: Coke                              [ Jim <jtemple@[removed]; ]
  Blimps                                [ Keith Houdeshell <khowdy@[removed] ]
  Best Buy's Insignia brand of MP3 Pla  [ "Kirby, Tom" <Kirby@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:37:39 -0400
From: Dave Parker <dave@[removed];
To: OLD TIME RADIO <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RAY ERLENBORN

HOW sad to learn of Ray's death.  He was indeed a wonderful guy--so
generous with his time and talents and so much fun to be around.  I
think all you OTR folks will be pleased to know that I have several
video sequences of Ray doing his magical sound stuff.  And I treasure
them all.

Here's a great Ray story I [removed]'ll love.

A couple of years ago I visited Ray at the motion picture home in
Thousand Oaks where he was living.  Reason for the visit was to video
some of his sound effect memories. Just before I left I said "Ray,
can you do any VOCAL effects?" WHAM--could he ever!!. So off we went
with elephants, seals, roosters, horse whinnies ,all of which were
outrageously great!

Toward the end I said "Hey Ray - I can do a cow".  He said, "let's
hear it" I thought I was pretty good--but his cow was a lot better.
So then I said "I can do a good dog!"  "Let's hear it" he said. No
sale.

Finally I said "I can do two dogs in a dog fight". "So can I Ray"
said "and mine will be better than yours"....AND WE BOTH STARTED
BARKING AND GROWLING AT  EACH OTHER!  Must have lasted a good minute
and it was plenty noisy enough to attract a small crowd including a
"security guy" who wondered what in God's name was going on.

All true!

Thanks for the memories Ray.

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:04:47 -0400
From: Larry Gassman <lgsinger@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Ray Erlenborn

	Hello all,
I was saddened to hear about the death of Ray Erlenborn.
We spoke just a few month ago.  He was very active in his community
even  in his nineties.  He was involved in plays as well as editing a
newsletter for the motion picture home.
Ray and Meridy were fixtures at not only SPERDVAC, but almost all of
the other conventions around the country as well.
We met about 1981	 when he came to speak for the first time at SPERDVAC.
Later he appeared at almost all of the SPERDVAC radio conventions with Meridy.
As I began thinking back over our association, I remember a quote
from Ray.  We were sitting over breakfast one year at a SPERDVAC convention.
He spoke about his early life, about some of his favorite radio and
television experiences.
He then told John and I that one day it would all come to an end.
He planned to have the following on his tombstone.
"Erlen born,  Erlen died".
I'll never forget that moment, and I'll always remember both Ray and Meridy.

Larry Gassman

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:05:18 -0400
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: lost (until now) 1931 transcriptions

[removed] will have bobb lynes and barbara Sunday's june 5 12:03  am  
program of "don't touch that dial" up for a few more weeks.  the  sound on these 
recordings from 1931 is excellent.
for a real treat, go to  
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peace  from kathy
support our troops; end the war
john 3:16
 

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:29:52 -0400
From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Matt Cvetic

Cvetic died on July 26, 1962.  He was 53 years old.  He died at the State
Motor Vehicle office while taking a driving exam.

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:30:15 -0400
From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Kids radio re-creation

The preposition is this: our radio re-creation troupe has been asked by our
local library of we can put together a program whereby kids could do a show.
I'm not talking about us doing a show for them, although that might happen,
also.  Instead, they want us to train the kids to do their own show--acting,
sound effects, etc.

I think I know how I want to do this, but I would be love to hear from
anyone who has actual experience with this so I can find out the pitfalls
and successes were.

Contact me off-list.  Thanks.

Ted

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:14:54 -0400
From: "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Matt Cvetic

Doubtless everyone else will have responded already,
but, anyway, Matt Cvetic died at the age of 53, 7/26/1962, after suffering a
heart attack at the Hollywood driver's license bureau.  (New York Times)  He
was described on one site as a "hard drinking lout" who beat up his
sister-in-law, hospitalizing her.  That, incident, surely, never made the
radio series.
--don jensen

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:01:28 -0400
From: fmazzar771@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  thanks to those who introduced us

I have to thank others for leading me to the OTR hobby. Born 1953 and i met OTR along the way in the form of library tapes
in serious bad condition and the Jack Benny "Great Moments in Radio" LP. However the pay off was yet to come. Sometime around
1988 I met up with an old neighbor who was 72 years old and basically living in the street. He carried everything he 
cherished in a carriage and walked through town all day looking for cans and coins. We talked and I realized he was a 
nostalgia nut and I started ordering shows from the Radio Vault and Carl Froelich and the addiction was closing in on me.
I then met Bob Jennings owner of the Fabulous Fiction Bookstore and he got me to join the Radio Collectors of America and
suddenly Eddie (my street friend) and i were rolling in the casettes. Add Bob Jennings scholarly like lectures on the 
hobby and I was in real deep and haven't been up for air since.

My favorite shows remain the hardest to find. Voice of Firestone and Bell Telephone are my top two but i can't find many.
Gildersleeve is next, but i enjoy almost anything and usually hear 9 or 10 per day. 

OTR wonderfully leads to so many other happy pursuits: Pulp magazines, science fiction and fantasy books, comic strips, 
comic books, 78 rpm records  and old movies. And those pursuits result in a unique insight into the history of America.
My kids have been helped by my interests and they have enjoyed the shows and my daughter  who attends NYU keeps annoying
her professors when she recognizes references they make to Old radio shows.

This list and the internet in general have turned a hobby into a field of study but I still miss the days when shows were 
harder to come by and cassettes were my only form of listening. I still prefer hearing the shows on cassette tape and 
I recently replaced my main machine by mail order. Unfortunately the stores have forgotten the cassette tape and player/recorders
are hard to come.

Frank M

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:56:58 -0400
From: Valerie Thompson <thompsonv@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  My introduction to OTR
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I've been enjoying this thread. I know it's gone on for several issues, but
Charlie also asked about the recent influx of female subscribers. I hadn't
noticed the guy to gal posting ratio before, but I'll use it as an excuse to
add one more story to the chain

I was born in July of '67, and was introduced to OTR by my uncle, Paul
Curtis, in the mid-70s. He bought lots of reel-to-reels, and made
audiocassettes for our family. Suspense and Vic and Sade were fairly early
pleasures, with V&S being my all-time favorite (shows like Rush's Haircut,
Sleepers Beware, and Bacon Sandwiches were as hilarious to this 11-year-old
youngster as they are to this 39-year-old adult). My younger brother
preferred Jack Benny, and was definitely the only 7-year-old Phil Harris fan
in his peer group.

I proudly remember sharing Three Skeleton Key and The Thing on the Fourble
Board with my buddies at a slumber party. They sneered at the idea that old
stories read to them could be scary (slasher movies were all the rage at
this time), and I delighted in their fear and trembling at those gems.

It wasn't a lack of other forms of entertainment that led to my enjoyment of
radio. My folks prided themselves on sharing the best writing with us kids -
be it classic movies, books, comics, or television. Radio was simply another
medium. I especially enjoyed it because I could listen to my cassettes while
doing other chores.

By the mid-80s I'd moved to NYC, along with a collection of a few hundred
prized cassette tapes and my Sony Walkman. I thought I was the only person
who listened to this stuff, and was surprised to learn that there were
others who shared my love of OTR.

Fast forward to the '90s. An older co-worker had attended FOTR and said I
would have a blast. Anthony Tollin told Mom that she'd enjoy the show. We
chatted and decided to check it out.

The first day of my first show, Jay Hickerson hooked me up with the Gotham
bunch (I was thrilled to play Snowflake in a Dick Tracy recreation). I've
had fun playing bit parts for various recreations ever since, including the
honor of being on the same stage as the professionals. With the Gotham
Players I've been on WBAI several times, and even performed at an outdoor
recreation at Lincoln Center - thank you Steve Lewis!

I've enjoyed working on the design/layout of 20-plus eclectically wonderful
books for BearManor Media. I like that there are people years YOUNGER than I
am that know 10 times as much as I do about OTR.

Unlike many other fandom/hobby groups, this one prides itself on sharing.
Recommendations from friends have enriched my life for years, adding such
greats as Escape, Have Gun Will Travel, Inner Sanctum, My Friend Irma,
Mysterious Traveler, Nero Wolf, Night Beat, Our Miss Brooks, Quiet Please,
Sam Spade, The Shadow, Sherlock Holmes, The Whistler, X-Minus One, and Yours
Truly Johnny Dollar to my world.

I, too, have grown up with OTR.

All the best,
Valerie Thompson

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:28:13 -0400
From: Jim <jtemple@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Coke

The following is from [removed] website:

"1955 saw the debut of the King Size (10- and 12-ounce) and Family Size
(26-ounce) contour bottles in the [removed], followed by Coca-Cola in 12-ounce
cans in 1960. Until this point, Coca-Cola had been available only at the
soda fountain and in 6 - 1/2-ounce bottles."

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:29:59 -0400
From: Keith Houdeshell <khowdy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Blimps

I was reading some old digests and came across the discussion about
blimps and dirigibles.  If I remember correctly Dr. Hilliard my
college history prof.  said Blimp was a british word  it came from B
class limp dirigible or simply B-limp.  Hope this clears up the problem.

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:29:47 -0400
From: "Kirby, Tom" <Kirby@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Best Buy's Insignia brand of MP3 Players & OTR
 -- My experience

I bought a 4gig Insignia MP3 player from Best Buy. It came with
a CD with "Best Buy Digital Music Store" on it that allows me to
rip CDs and load the MP3 player. I have some CDs with MP3 files
on them, and tried to import them without success. The most
aggravating problem was that it would tell me that I had errors,
but not elaborate any further than that!

I finally found that it came up by default in "Media Manager" mode,
which should be called Media Mangler. The 32kbps OTR tracks weren't
the only ones it had problems with. I was finally able to load my
stuff using "File & Folder" mode, but I'm going to have to do it
again, since the the software managed to trash its playlists on
the PC, leaving me with a few missing/abbreviated music tracks.

I'm now looking for some software (and I don't mind paying if it's
good) to rip CDs, edit tags, and load my MP3 player. I'm looking at
one program that Wayne Johnson recommended (thanks for all your
help, Wayne!), but I'm entertaining other suggestions, so if anyone
else has suggestions, please let me know.

Thanks,

-- Tom Kirby

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