Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #137
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Date: 4/19/2004 10:13 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 137
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      OTR on the 'net tonight!              [ Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed]; ]
      World News Today                      [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Cincy Convention                      [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      For Bib Hastings, "Sea Hound"         [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
      banana oil                            [ "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed] ]
      banana oil and other '20's artifacts  [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      Fred Allen and the censors            [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
      Correction                            [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
      [removed]                    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Waukeegan Jack Benny Statue Under Fi  [ seandd@[removed] ]
      harry bartell sound alike             [ k g-g <grams46@[removed] ]
      USB pen-style MP3 players             [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      Random Appreciations for the Cincinn  [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
      Harry Babbitt                         [ Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      4-20 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      The Karen Hughes Cincy Report         [ danhughes@[removed] ]
      Durham Production of "1940s Radio Ho  [ seandd@[removed] ]
      Private Eyelashes book                [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:18:44 -0400
    From: Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR on the 'net tonight!

    Hi, Folks!

    Just a reminder that my weekly OTR/big band radio program "Night Train"
    is now available in a "live" high quality internet broadcast through
    WCWM's new MP3 stream. The program airs from 8:00 PM until Midnight
    (EDT) on WCWM, [removed] FM in Williamsburg, Virginia and can be heard on
    the web by going to either of the websites below:

    [removed]
    	(click on "webcast" at the bottom of the page)

    [removed]

    For those of you unable to attend the Cincy convention, this can be our
    "mini convention" complete with big band music, original old-time radio
    shows, and even an OTR re-creation by New York's Gotham Radio Players.
    As always, your requests for big band tunes are welcomed; you can
    e-mail them ahead of time or during the show to:

    bswrig@[removed]

    Here's the lineup for tonight (Sunday, April 18, 2004, all times
    Eastern):

    8:00 - 10:00 - Big band and vintage jazz music
    10:00 - Fibber McGee and Molly
    10:30 - The Jack Benny Program
    11:00 - The Gotham Radio Players (OTR re-creation)
    11:30 - Lights Out

    Hope you can join us!
    Happy listening,
    Bryan Wright

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:19:13 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  World News Today

    Chris Werner wondered:

>     Does anyone know the date of the first broadcast of
>     World News Today?

    As I recall "World News Today" was a sponsored news program by Admiral. The
    earliest I have seen it in any list (not necessarily circulated) was
    October 11, 1942. I believe one source, the Milo Ryan Phonoarchives lists
    the first one for that date too - but that is based upon their archives.

    My experience is that some of these news programs came and went depending
    upon need and sponsorship. There was a "World News Tonight" also which I
    haven't heard that could have been sponsored too.  It was from pre-1942 and
    may have disappeared under that title by 1942.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:19:29 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cincy Convention

    Wanted to put an early two cents in thanking Bob Burchett, Bob Newman and
    every one involved in putting together the Cincy Convention this year.

    It seemed to me to be a good turnout and with the additional presence of
    Will Hutchins and Esther Geddes McVey along with Bob Hastings and the
    indomitable Hal Stone and Rosemary Rice, it was most enjoyable.

    Some good recreations, though my favorite this year was probably Will as
    Britt Ponset in "The Six Shooter."

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:19:36 -0400
    From: Jer51473@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  For Bib Hastings, "Sea Hound"
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    I used to listen daily in this order, i think: sea hound, terry and the
    pirates, dick tracy, hop harrigan, and jack armstrong. These were my very own
    favorites. Could you comment on the sea hound for us bob, sharing your
    experiences
    and info about the program in general? It was a great serial, imo, but i have
    been unable to find more than a couple of the program as otr. Are more
    available or will be available in the future? The other serials i mentioned
    have a
    pretty fair # of episodes floating around, but not the sea hound? Btw, i do
    have
    the movie serial from the forties or fifties starring buster crabb, and
    although it is pretty good, the otr version is the one that brings back the
    memories of jerry and captain silver.

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:29:33 -0400
    From: "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  banana oil

    1950s Cartoonist Jimmy Hatlo ("They'll Do It Every Time") used banana oil as
    a gas
    station, but as Banana Erl, along with Belchfire 8 for automobiles, Akimbo
    Arms for
    apartment buildings, and such.

    =====
    Donald P. Tuttle

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:50:40 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  banana oil and other '20's artifacts

    I did some substitute teaching in rural southern Ohio a few years ago.
    During lunch duty at one high school, I came upon a table at which was
    seated a strangely-dressed group of boys.  They all wore large brown work
    jackets made by the Carhart company.  Upon these were written various
    expressions.  So I told them that during the 1920's, there was a similar
    custom among college students, thus demonstrating that fads tend to repeat
    over time.

    [They were not at all amused.  I was tersely told by other teachers that
    this group considered themselves alienated from society and was thus to be
    left strictly alone.  I always wondered what happened to them: the Columbine
    High School massacre occurred shortly afterward.  The perpetrators belonged
    to a similar group that wore black coats.]

    M Kinsler

    23 skidoo

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:27:32 -0400
    From: Osborneam@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fred Allen and the censors

    Joe Mackey posted:

>     04/20/1947 - Fred Allen didn't find things so funny when
>     censors cut him off the air during his broadcast.

    Does this show exist?

    Arlene Osborne

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:27:55 -0400
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Correction

>     1924 - The Chicago Barn Dance began airing on WLS.

    It was "The WLS Barndance"...later upgraded to the "National Barndance."

    BILL KNOWLTON

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:28:51 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  [removed]
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    Hi Gang:

          Yes, another Cincinnati OTR convention has lapsed and I can safely say
    it was the best OTR convention I NEVER attended. Let me explain:

          Everybody's favourite young Kubelskyan, Karen Hughes (no, not the
    political one that works for the President) took full advantage of free
    weekend minutes on her cell-phone and called me Saturday night after the
    banquet to give me a full report on the proceedings. One by one, she handed
    the phone over to what she described as a line of folks eager to speak with
    your (trying-to-be-) humble correspondent.
    She later told me her dad Prof. Dan had made an on-mike announcement for
    anybody wanting to speak with me. And, boy!, was I absolutely floored. I never
    realised how popular I was.

          First was convention organiser Bob Burchett. It always amazes me how he
    always has time to talk and hang out with his conventioneers in spite of the
    fact that he's kept quite busy running the convention. When I told him my
    financial situation predicated my absence, he insisted I start saving up now
    for next year's.
          Bob turned the phone over to the convention's [removed] Robert "Hello,
    Newman" Newman.  He's a really nice guy and I'm glad he can always take my
    ribbing him.  Robert is very proud of the Cincinnati area. Last year, he
    shared with everyone one of his favourite bits of trivia which was that the
    Andrews Sisters were in Cincinnati for a concert appearance on that momentous
    day 12/07/1941.  I had just purchased a copy of a new McFarland release aptly
    titled "The Andrews Sisters" by (first name escapes me) Nimmo.
    [BTW, I highly recommend this book; quite frankly, it blows the previous
    Andrews bio away--but I digress]. I then told Mr. Newman that he was right and
    that the new book substantiated his contention.
          Hal Stone took time from his schmoozing and reveling  in the
    Stone/Waterman Award he had just won to say hello. As did Joan Beck, wife of
    veteran SFX man Barney Beck. Joan expressed a concern that I might not make it
    to Newark but I assured her I live two towns away from [removed]'s largest city &
    that I most definitely would be there.
          I spoke with three "Steves" in a row: first theer was scriptwriter (and
    "I Love a Mystery" fan) Steve Jansen; then,  Steven Hiss, my Floridian pal &
    veteran party-thrower and maven of all thins relating to "Ethel and Albert;"
    and finally Steve Thompson a fellow book-lover. Mr. Thompson then handed the
    phone over to his lovely wife Renee, the First Lady of the Cincinnati chapter
    of the Dave Warren Players. I congratulated Renee on her being included in a
    recent book "We're Looking for a Few Good Moms" [I'd like to elaborate but I
    might run afoul of the Digest's no-politics rule]. Renee insists that I attend
    next year even if the Thompsons have to rent a Winnebago to come to [removed] to
    fetch me. Sounds like a great idea, Renee, but please consider renting the
    Winnebago and coming to the east coast FOTR convention. Your dynamism would
    fit in quite well there and you can meet the other Thompsons who happen to be
    the latest additions to the Dave Warren repetory company:  Maggie Thompson,
    publisher of the "Comisc' Buyer Guide" and her daughter Valerie who works in
    the fashion industry.
          Speaking of Dave Warren, I spoke with my good friend Gary Yoggy, winner
    of the second annual Dave Warren Award which celebrates Dave's early efforts
    in bringing about fan-based OTR re-creations over 20 years ago by recognising
    OTR re-creationists. As one of the originators of this award (along with Bob
    Burchett), I knew ahead of time Gary was this year's honoree. I'd like to
    thank Mr. Burchett for green-lighting this and for last year's winner Donald
    Ramlow for presenting it (in addition to the yeoman work in directing and
    co-ordinating all of the Cincinnati re-creations. Bravo, Don!).
         Author  Martin  Grams, Jr., came on the line as did journalist/OTR
    scriptwriter Rick Keating. Penultimately, I spoke with Karen's dad Dan [nice
    picture of you and Listmaster Charlie Summers on Charlie's blog, Dan] and
    finally Karen herself.
         I'd like to give a tip of the hat to regular Cincy attendees who I didn't
    get a chance to speak with but whom I missed seeing all the same including:
    Fred & Ellen Berney, Barry Hill, Mike and Leah Biel, Christopher Werner, Chuck
    Schaden, Dan Riedstra, Jim Widner, Meredith Granger, Rodney Bowcock, the
    new-improved Randy Story [Renee told me you were looking great, Randy],
    T-shirt purveyor Judy Sampson, my pal Harold Zeigler [Congrats on your Parley
    Baer Award, pal, & I can't wait to see the video], Terry Salomonson, the
    Boogie-Woogie Girls, & the Radio Memories crew of Ted Davenport and Tom
    Monroe.
         Finally, I'd like to thank the ever-so-lovely Karen "Livvie" Hughes for
    bringing the convention--albeit briefly--to an envious me in New Jersey. Next
    year in Cincinnati!

    Name-droppingly yours in the ether,

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:54:47 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Waukeegan Jack Benny Statue Under Fire

    Well, not literally.  But the politician responsible for funding is taking
    some abuse for it.

    The Daily Herald has the story -

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:00:28 -0400
    From: k g-g <grams46@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  harry bartell sound alike

    question regarding an actor in the 1951 film, callaway went thataway:
    near the end of the movie, a messenger from callaway's attorney brings
    callaway papers to sign.   the messenger's face can not be seen clearly but
    he sounds (imho) like harry bartell.
    i checked the internet for  credits to the film but harry bartell is not in
    the cast listing.
    anyone know who that unmasked man was?
    from kathy
    grams46@[removed]

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:01:05 -0400
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  USB pen-style MP3 players

    Does anybody have any experience with USB pen-style
    MP3 players? The price on these has dropped to the
    point I'm thinking of getting one--you can find many
    for under $90, and a few are going for under $70. They
    only come with 128 MB, but that's fine for a weekend
    trip. The two features I consider must-haves are true
    resume (it picks up in the track where you stopped
    last time), and it plays low bitrates. Does anybody
    own one of these, or have any recommendations? I
    really like the idea of having an MP3 player I can
    plug directly into a USB slot, without cords, wires or
    cds involved. Since this is a bit off-topic, perhaps
    it would be best to contact me off-list.

    Thanks,
    Kermyt

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:12:00 -0400
    From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Random Appreciations for the Cincinnati
     Convention

    To Bob Burchett et al for a wonderful Convention! As
    always, the convention was a most enjoyable
    experience, the recreations excellent and fun, and
    IMHO the whole event just gets better year after year.
     For all your hard work, [removed] and everyone who
    helped pull it together and make it happen, I just
    want to express my appreciation.

    It was great to be able to attend again after a
    two-year absence, even better to renew friendships
    made at previous conventions.  My only regrets are
    that I wasn't able to get there sooner, and that I
    didn't have more money money to spend.  Oh why, oh
    why, didn't I file for that income tax refund sooner?

    The highlight of my weekend was to be able at last to
    meet the great Hal Stone. I only wish I'd had time to
    talk more with you, Hal. I was that last person to buy
    your book, which, by the way, I'm thoroughly enjoying
    reading.  By the way, my mom is widowed, and she was
    interested in seeing how you look today. We couldn't
    find a current picture of you in the book. I'll send
    her a copy of one of Charlie's pics from his coverage
    of the convention.  Who knows? LOL

    Charlie, great to meet you too! And so glad you are
    still alive.

    The only sad note about the convention was learning of
    the death of Tyler McVey.  I admire Esther for her
    courage to come, and hope there was some healing
    comfort for her in being at the convention.  My
    sincerest sympathies to you, Esther, in your loss.

    * * * *

    Well, can't wait until next year's Convention, and now
    that I have it on high authority that it's always the
    3rd weekend in April unless it conflicts with Easter,
    I can plan accordingly.

    Thanks to [removed] planners, performers and participants
    for a wonderful time.

    D W Phaneuf

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:12:16 -0400
    From: Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "OTR (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Harry Babbitt

    OTR vocalist, tenor, Harry Babbitt passed away April 9 in Newport Beach,
    California at age 90. A native of St. Louis, his radio credits include Kay
    Kyser's Surprise Party (1937), Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge
    (1938-44 and 1946-48), By Popular Demand (1946), and The Second Cup of
    Coffee Club. He made 7 films with Kay Kyser and recorded many hit songs
    including "I Got Spurs That Jingle, Jangle, Jingle" and "Praise The Lord and
    Pass the Ammunition." Although a lead radio vocalist for Kyser, he also
    played the comic role of Harry Hookenlooper. Later on Los Angeles TV, he
    hosted "Glamour Girl" for NBC and in the 80's he reorganized the Kay Kyser
    Orchestra under his direction for concert tours and steamship cruises.

    Rich

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:21:15 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-20 births/deaths

    April 20th births

    04-20-1893 - Harold Lloyd - Burchard, NE - d. 3-8-1971
    comedian: "Comedy Theatre"
    04-20-1897 - Gregory Ratoff - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 12-14-1960
    panelist: "Information Please"
    04-20-1904 - Bruce Cabot - Carlsad, NM - d. 5-3-1972
    actor: "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "Hollywood on the Air"
    04-20-1914 - Betty Lou Gerson - Chattanooga, TN - d. 1-12-1999
    actress: Mary Marlin "Story of Mary Marlin"; Charlotte Wilson "Guiding Light"
    04-20-1924 - Nina Foch - Leyden, The Netherlands
    actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"; "Cavalcade of America"
    04-20-1926 - Elena Verdugo - Hollywood, CA
    actress: Millie Bronson "Meet Millie"

    April 20th deaths

    05-07-1892 - Archibald MacLeish - Glencoe, IL - d. 4-20-1982
    writer: "Columbia Workshop"
    11-20-1890 - Robert Armstrong - Saginaw, MI - d. 4-20-1973
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    12-20-1889 - Ernest La Prade - Memphis, TN - d. 4-20-1969
    conductor: "Collier's Hour"; "Orchestra of the Nation"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:19:14 -0400
    From: danhughes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Karen Hughes Cincy Report

    Back from Cincy and pleasantly exhausted, I've posted Karen's exclusive
    report on the web.  No links yet from my home site, but here's the URL:

    [removed]~[removed]

    For those of you who don't know Karen, she's been a Jack Benny fanatic
    since she was three.  She's 19 now and has lost none of the magic or the
    excitement that usually result from growing older.  (The left photo on
    the report page is Karen's senior picture, taken in Waukegan, and the
    right photo is our license plate).

    Karen has written reports on the Cincinnati Convention for three or four
    years now.  Hope you enjoy it!

    ---Proud Papa Dan Hughes

    (No relation to the Karen Hughes who worked for George Bush, even though
    we frequently get phone calls wanting us to get a message to the
    President.  Sometimes we are SO tempted to play [removed])

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    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:56:40 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Durham Production of "1940s Radio Hour"

    The enjoyable OTR stage play, "1940s Radio Hour," is coming to Durham, [removed]

    See coverage from the Sun-Herald.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:06:06 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Private Eyelashes book

    Just an FYI to add to the already posted remarks about PRIVATE EYELASHES.
    Although not many copies were brought to the Cincinnati Convention, PRIVATE
    EYELASHES was sold out before the end of the second day - people asking for
    the book after it was sold out are aware of this fact.  To the best of my
    knowledge, only two other books were sold out at the convention: Ben
    Ohmart's PAUL FREES book and the INVITATION TO LEARNING book.  Ben Ohmart
    (and Jack French) should be proud.
    MG

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