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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 291

Table Of Contents: 

	 Glad to help
	 Re: [removed] Digest V96 #290
	 Re:"The House of Mystery"
	 KFI On-Air Personalities
	 Station names & WENN
	 Early Rock on Otr?
	 Self-censorship
	 Re: What Call Letters Mean
	 Wounded Soul - Again 
	 President Raygun
	 August 20 Wall Street Journal
	 Fibber and Ozzie: Occupations
	 Call letters, occupation

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:32:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Glad to help
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Since you asked, here's the information on subscribing to the AMC Dialog.


To: majordomo@[removed]

Subject: (none required)

In the body of the message type:

subscribe amc-dialog (your e-mail address)

That'll do it. One thing, judging from my experience and others I've
given the address to, this will result in an immediate flood of messages.
Don't let it throw you, things calm down considerably.

To send a message to the dialog, the address is:

amc-dialog@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:24:58 +0000
From: "George S. Cole" <gscole@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: [removed] Digest V96 #290
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Larry Lewis recently wrote:


> I remember hearing, when I was a kid, two episodes of programs
> that have remained in my memory, but I don't know on which
> programs they were boradcast.
> 
> The first was a story about two grave robbers, called Burke and
> Hare.  This was a true story and it chronicles the doings of
> said Burke and Hare.  The episode was entitled, appropriately
> enough, "If a body need a doby call Burke and Hare'.  Does
> anyone know what program this might have been on? 

I believe the grave robber story was from Crime Classics, but am not 
100% certain.

George S. Cole
>

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:36:43 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:"The House of Mystery"
Message-ID: <960820123642_264171268@[removed]>

...was a Sunday afternoon MBS childrens' series; very scary to us kids
listening to it before "The shadow" came on later in the day. "Roger Elliot",
a pseudonym, was the host, played by John Griggs. "The Big Broadcast" lists
its premier in 1944 and it ran 'til 1949 according to "Tune In Yesterday." I
got to know Griggs/Elliot in 1960 when he was sponsoring the showing of
silent movies on summer Sunday nights at the Sharon, CT. Playhouse. He'd be
drawing posters of his movie showings all afternoon while I ran the box
office. He was delighted to be remembered as the scary guy he was on that
show.

BILL KNOWLTON

PS: If anybody has a followup to my "What The Call Letters Mean", you'll have
to e-mail them to me privately at udmacon@[removed] I apparently broke the
rules with that posting.

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:50 PDT
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: KFI On-Air Personalities
Message-Id: <m0usu0n-0007hNC@[removed]>
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For Eugene F Kasper:

>I remember David Starling's programs, but whatever happened to Dick 
>Sinclair?  He was all over KFI's schedules and struck me as an extremely 
>personable and friendly and enthusiastic personality.

I have not heard anything about Dick Sinclair recently.  Remember his "Polka
Party"?  He was like a big, friendly puppy dog.  He once received a letter
from a fan, who complimented him upon having such perfect diction that she
could understand everything he said.  But she addressed it to "Dixon Claire".

Re Chuck Cecil's "The Swinging Years":
>>program which included -- well into the middle '60s -- live pickups from 
>the Hollywood Palladium (Lawrence Welk) and the Coconut Grove (I think) 
>(Freddie Martin).  I understand Mr Cecil is still running his program on 
>another LA station. 

Chuck's "Swinging Years" is syndicated and can be heard all over the US.
Chuck was s young, fresh-faced boy when he joined KFI around 1946-7 (a
guess) and I've never seen him without a smile on his face. He lives in the
Los Angeles area.

Re: Los Angeles area call letters:  As mentioned before, KECA was for Earle
C Anthony; and KGIL was named for its founder Gil Paltridge.

Lois Culver
KWLK, Longview WA
KFI, Los Angeles

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:39:54 -0400
From: Robert Kirk <kirk@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Station names & WENN
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>Subject: What Call Letters Mean
>
>I'm fairly sure this line of chat has been on Oldtime Radio before I signed
>on, but can we do it again? Like WSM means "We Shield Millions", WLS"
>"World's Largest Store", WNEW: Newyork Ed Wynn; WSB: 'Welcome South Brother",
>WIOD: 'Wonderful Isle of Dreams", WGN: "World's Greatest Newspaper", WMCA:
>"(Hotel) Mc Alpin", WOR: "World of Radio", WTIC: "Travelers' Insurance
>Company", WLAC: Life And Casualty, WFBL (Syracuse): "First Broadcast
>License", WEVD: "Eugene V. Debbs", WGY: G: "General Electric"; Y:
>"Schenectady", etc.
>
>But did KFI mean anything; WJZ? WEAF? WMC? WHN? WBT? WBZ? KDKA? (WHAM,
>Rochester means "wham.")
>
>BILL KNOWLTON: "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE", WCNY (Central New York), Syracuse NY
>(since 1973)
>

I heard that WJZ stood for the original owner, Jacob Zimmerman.

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>> WEAF changed call letters to WNBC on 2 November 1946 at 6:00 PM.  Four hours 
>> later WABC became WCBS.  WNBC was called WRCA from 18 October 1954 till 20 
>> March 1960, when it became WNBC again.
>
>It might also be noted that there was no ABC network until 1943.  When did
>WJZ become WABC?
>
>======================================================================
>A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
>15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
>Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
>======================================================================
>

If I recall, it was all done about the same time as WNBC & WCBS, in '46

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>
>For those interested in awards and whatnot, "Remember WENN" has been
>nominated for two Emmys -- Best costume design and Best Guest Actress. The
>actress was the lady who played Celia's "mother" in a "Rock and a Soft
>Place".
>
>Diana Reilly
>direilly@[removed]
>
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>

That was awfully magnanimous of the nominators. I imagine they
could have also squeezed out a Best Supporting Understudy
or Best Best Boy. They probably could have doen better in
the Emmy race by using Loni Anderson in something low cut.

Bob Kirk

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Date: 20 Aug 1996 15:37:22 CST
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Early Rock on Otr?
Message-Id: <m0usxE6-000YSmC@[removed]>

Hi, all, glad to see the Digest up and running again. Here is a question
for those with more answers than I have. Did any of the early Rock'n
Rollers or R'NB stars appear on any radio shows in the 50's? It seems to
me since radio was the primary medium for getting Rock on it's feet I
thought maybe some of the artists appeared on some of the shows.
I am a rock history nut so any info would be interesting.
Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:55:47 -0700
From: Jack Mann <jmann@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
CC: hacickes@[removed]
Subject: Self-censorship
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Hi Digest: I've just seen this comment from Henry Campbell-Ickes 
(Digest V96 #289), and I think it is very sad:

     (P. S.: anyone interested in some anecdotes about WCBS-AM      
     [removed] programming in the '50s, and an anecdote involving 
     station breaks during N. Y. Yankees ball games, please e-mail me.  
     Some folks are getting sensitive about some of this . . .)
 
I strongly urge everyone to go ahead and contribute their anecdotes and
not worry about offending anyone who may be reading this digest. If we
begin self-censoring ourselves (maybe I shouldn't send this because
someone might be offended) the digest might as well just quite right
now. 
I'm of the opinion that ANYTHING relating to OTR (or modern radio, for
that matter) should be welcomed. If you don't care to read it, simply
use your mouse and skip it. Very easy to do.
So please, Henry, share those anecdotes with us. I'll personally guar-
antee that there's at least one person interested in them (me), and
that should be enough. And I promise that this note was not meant to
embarrass you, or single you out. Because there are complainers out
there (and let's face it, sometimes their complaints are valid and 
needed), I'm sure all of us have wondered at times if we should send in 
this or that little tidbit, and my point is: if it's in good taste
(OK, reasonably good taste) and about radio, go ahead and share it!

Sincerely,

Jack

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:56:15 -0400
From: Francis Fisher <fisherf@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: What Call Letters Mean
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Udmacon@[removed] wrote:
>>>
> But did KFI mean anything; WJZ? WEAF? WMC? WHN? WBT? WBZ? KDKA?
(WHAM,
> Rochester means "wham.")
> 
> BILL KNOWLTON: "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE", WCNY (Central New York),
Syracuse NY
<<<

I never cared to hear it but some used to say that NBC meant
'nobody cares.'

Of course, a station owner can request call letters. Sometimes
stations are named for family: WEBC in Duluth, MN was for Edwina
and Barbara Clinton.

Francis

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:16:28 -0400
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wounded Soul - Again 
Message-ID: <960820181626_264449305@[removed]>

Hi Gang -                      August 20 - 1996 -- 1 PM cdt 

On August 7 I attempted to post a question to the digest.  I don't 
believe the original question ever made it into the digest, but 
a second partial posting made it into issue 275, which was right in 
the middle of the provider change-over.   As a result, I received only
one response, but the sender did not know the answer.  

Now that the digest has resumed regular circulation, I'm re-posting 
the original question from August 7 - 1996:

BEGIN

This afternoon I received an ususual telephone call.  The call was from
a library in Georgia.  The caller knew that I have some knowledge about 
old time radio, and he wanted to know if I could tell him who used the 
closing line, "If I have wounded any soul ... "  as a regular signoff. 

The line is vaguely familiar, but I can't place it.  I also don't know
for sure if it came from radio.  It could have come from the early days 
of TV, and perhaps someone like Dave Garroway might have used it.  

Does anybody have any input on this?   Was it from Radio or TV or both? 
I'll pass the information along to the librarian, and I will give credit 
to the person who answers this unusual question. 

END

Happy Taping --   Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois 
kenpiletic@[removed] 



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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 21:25:28 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: President Raygun
Message-ID: <960820212527_183854406@[removed]>

Recently, Lois Culver writes


It is my understanding that Neil Reagan, Ronnie's brother who spelled his
name differently than Ronnie, died some years [removed] I cant remember how
he spelled it altho I remember he pronounced it Reegan.

Lois Culver

I have an old Burns & Allen show in which the future president guest-starred
and he pronounced is his own name Reegan at that point as well.  I'm not sure
we want to start a thread on the man who made every government he
administrated bigger, but does anyone know why or when he changed
pronunciations?

Best, Sean Dougherty
Kubelski@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 21:25:26 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: August 20 Wall Street Journal
Message-ID: <960820212525_183854380@[removed]>

No you hopefuls, the Wall Street Journal has not just covered the FOTR '96
Show, but they did do a nice piece on the triumph of Stan Freeberg today, a
nice bio and tip of the hat to Radio Spirits for keeping his show on the
shelves of Barnes & Noble and the like.

BTW -- Steve Lewis, I spoke with you this afternoon and forgot to mention
this.  Sorry.  Bus reading tends to blend together by the time you start
[removed]

Much media interest in FOTR '96, BTW, I'll have details soon.  Anyone ever
hear of WOBM-AM, 1160 in Tom's River, NJ.  I spoke with them today and they
said that they broadcast OTR from 7-8 [removed] every day.  They had never heard
of Max Schmid or the FOTR, so I'm wondering, does anyone here know of this
station?

Best, Sean Dougherty
Publicity Coordinator, FOTR '96

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 21:50:44 -0400
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fibber and Ozzie: Occupations
Message-ID: <960820215042_264638699@[removed]>

Hi Gang -                 Tuesday - August 20, 1996 -- 8:40 PM cdt  

Regarding Fibber McGee's occupation:
I always figured he was a retired showman.  He often talked about the 
time when, "I and Fred Nitney had us a Vaudeville Show from Starved Rock, 
Illinois."   If Fibber and Molly had any children, they would have been 
grown and out of the house.  

Regarding Ozzie Nelson's occupation:
Ozzie Nelson was a Bandleader.  Ozzie and Harriet were announced as 
"America's Favorite Young Couple".  Their boys, David and Ricky, were
on the program (eventually they played themselves), thus giving the 
radio appearance of being younger than Fibber and Molly.  Although Ozzie's 
occupation was rarely mentioned on the program, he had one of the best 
known dance bands of the time, and the radio audience of that era knew 
him and Harriet from the band. 

--- New Topic ---

The Cicso Kid had a number of sponsors, depending on where it was 
broadcast.  Some of the "newer" circulating shows have a long-long-long 
organ interlude at the beginning of the program.  That's so it could 
be faded under-and-out as the announcer presented the sponsor's message.
Then the music could be faded in again to start the show. 

Seems to me it was sponsored in the Chicago area by a bread company, 
but I don't remember which one.  

Happy Taping -- Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois 
kenpiletic@[removed] 

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 96 21:18:40 -0500
From: welsa@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Call letters, occupation
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

1)  In a recent digest someone was listing some station call letters and 
telling their meanings.  I grew upin the Twin Cities (of Minnesota) and one of 
the leading stations then as now was WCCO (a former clear-channel station).  
This station was founded by a local milling company primarily as a means to 
push it's own products.  The company?  Washburn-Crosby COmpany.
                                       ~        ~      ~~
    Later, that company changed it's name to Pillsbury.
    
    WCCO is a Minneapolis-domiciled station.  Right across the river to the 
East was rival KSTP, in which the last three letters stand for ST. Paul.  Later 
Hubbard Broadcasting (which owns KSTP to this day) moved and situated their 
studios and transmitting tower right on the border of the two towns.
    
    I once worked for WCCO's premier newscaster, Cedric Adams--but that's 
another story.
    
2)  On the thread of Fibber and Molly being able to afford a maid, someone 
asked about occupations of Fibber and Ozzie Nelson.  Why stop there?  What was 
Jack Benny's occupation (vaguely connected to show biz, but never really 
clarified as far as I can recall)?  George Burns?  Abbott & Costello? The 
Bickersons?  Amos 'n Andy ran a taxicab, but how about Kingfish?  I'm sure 
there are a lot more examples.

3)  Yet another OTRer wrote about having a woman sit on a newscasters lap and 
undress him while he was trying to read the news.  I remember when I was in 
high school reading a biography by Steve Allen called "MARK IT AND STRIKE IT".  
He recounted  one time when was reading news, someone would come up and set the 
page on fire from the top.  He had to hurry along to finish reading before the 
flames caught up with the words.  He also told of someone trying to undress him 
while he was on the air.  Very funny book.  Wish I still owned it today.
    
    
        
     
    
    
___
* UniQWK #5138* Between two evils, I always pick the one I haven't tried!




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