Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #57
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Date: 2/4/2003 5:59 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 57
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  It's In the Book                      [ "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed] ]
  Compare & [removed]                 [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
  Twilight Zone radio dramas            [ "Carl Amari" <camari@falconpictureg ]
  Dragnet:                              [ "Bob & Carol Taylor" <qth4@[removed] ]
  Re: More on Dragnet                   [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
  When Radio Was on the Internet        [ "Steve McLaughlin" <steve@mediabay. ]
  Re: Just Curious                      [ Howard Bonner <howard_bonner@yahoo. ]
  It's In The Book                      [ "glen schroeder" <gschroeder10@char ]
  Re: Johnny Dollar is NOT Sea Hunt     [ mark koldys <mkoldys@[removed]; ]
  Eddie Lawrence, The Old Philosopher   [ "Kenneth Ruggles" <kruggles@[removed]. ]
  Re: More on Dragnet                   [ "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed] ]
  Re: more on Jack Webb                 [ "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed] ]
  uglied to death                       [ "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed] ]
  Eddie Lawrence                        [ "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed] ]
  Candy Matson Update                   [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  National Audio Theater                [ "Bob & Lois Reynolds" <boblo1@allte ]
  Glen Ford story update                [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Recording From Computer to Tape       [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
  It's In The Book                      [ TallPaulK@[removed] ]

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:29:09 -0500
From: "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed];
To: "otr message" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  It's In the Book

It is a two part Capitol 45 by Johnny Standley. Have always wondered what
became of him.

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:29:22 -0500
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Compare & [removed]

A. Joseph Ross said
I can't wait to see someone like Justin Timberlake star as Captain Kirk in a
re-make of Star Trek. ;->

Well, the publicity photos for the new version the "The Lone
Ranger" are circulating now, and maybe they will do for the
time being. ;-)

John Henley

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:48:35 -0500
From: "Carl Amari" <camari@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Twilight Zone radio dramas

Hi,
I just wanted to let everyone know that emailed me about getting a FREE CD
of The Twilight Zone radio drama that their CD is in the mail.  I'm
interested in hearing comments, suggestions about my new series from the
digest members and am extending my offer to send digest members a
complimentary CD of "A Kind of Stopwatch" starring Lou Diamond Phillips.
The story was originally written by Rod Serling and the radio adaptation is
by leading science-fiction author Dennis Etchison.  All of the Twilight Zone
radio dramas are hosted by Stacy Keach and produced in Chicago.  My email
should you like a FREE CD is camari@[removed]
Best,
Carl Amari

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:48:55 -0500
From: "Bob & Carol Taylor" <qth4@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Dragnet:
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Hi gang, My wife and I saw the new Dragnet on Sunday evening & I thought it
was a far cry from the radio and tv days.  I realize the times have changed
along with the subject matter of the streets but that doesn't bother me as
much as the language.  I can hold my own with the guys at the bar with jokes,
but the language that was used on that show would make Jack Webb turn over in
his grave.

The show isn't as bad as some shows I've seen but the language could have been
different.

Calling someone a SOB was not really called for.

Just my rambling.

Bob Taylor

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:29:34 -0500
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: More on Dragnet

Herb Harrison wrote:
Does anybody remember "Dragnet 1968"? That was an "updated" TV series
by & with Jack Webb that attempted to replicate the success of the original
radio & TV series. It didn't work. It was boring. It was canceled after one
or two seasons.

At the risk of veering off-topic (again!), I had to answer this one.  I
think many will agree that, creatively, the revived DRAGNET (which ran [removed]
seasons, from 1/67 to 9/70) wasn't a patch on the pants of the original
radio and TV versions.  But it was not unsuccessful.  It was a top ten show
among kids aged 12-17, and a top thirty show as a whole.  NBC asked Webb if
he wanted it to continue, and he said "No," in his desire to move behind the
camera for good.  When the reruns went to syndication in the fall of 1970,
it quickly became the most successful off-network show on TV for the next
decade - running in more markets than "Star Trek" and "I Love Lucy"
COMBINED.

Michael

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:58:34 -0500
From: "Steve McLaughlin" <steve@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  When Radio Was on the Internet

I saw some dialogue about streams of OTR programs on the 'net and just
wanted to drop a line to let everyone on the list know that Radio Spirits
makes its syndicated radio programs, "When Radio Was," hosted by Stan
Freberg, as well as "Radio Movie Classics" and "Radio Super Heroes"
available for free streaming at:

[removed]

You can also check out our new OTR subscription plan which offers premium
content for download and burning to CD and unlimited streaming of the When
Radio Was archive at:

[removed]

Enjoy!

-Steve McLaughlin

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:59:30 -0500
From: Howard Bonner <howard_bonner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Just Curious

Like fiddle music, there is a differentiation in
dialect form east to west and vice-versa in Canada.

If you have never been to Canada, it exceeds the
continental US by approx. 1,000 miles in total length
[removed] 4,500 miles ( to 3,000) approx. The east coast
area was settled in large numbers in the early 18OO's
by Scottish and Irish people displaced by the famine.
their influence is apparent today in the brogue and
the music of Newfoundland ( Pronounced Newfundland )
and Nova Scotia. The dialect is more apparent in
smaller towns than in larger cities ( not including
[removed], Newfoundland)
In New Brunswick, there is a lesser Irish, Scottish
influence which is influenced by english speaking
french.
In Ontario, their is a common dialect for the
generations of Ontarians with the exception of the
Ottawa Valley where locals have a definite local
dialect influenced by the early Irish-Scottish
settlers.

The abouts and the roofs, etc. are prevalent cross the
english speaking areas of [removed] regional
anomalies occur as to usage across all of the nation.

As an example,remember, if you order 'chips' in a
restaurant, you receive 'french fries'. If you want
chips, you ask for 'Potato Chips'. BTW_Potato Chips
are seldom served as a natural part of a serving in a
restaurant in Canada.

Canada is [removed] of the population of the
US. When Texans speak of a thousand acres, Albertans
talk of the ownership of sections ( 640 acres per).
There's the old story of the Texan who was showing the
guy from Ontario his large fishing lake. The guy from
Ontario nods his acknowledgement upon looking at same
and bears the brunt of the Texans bragging about all
that is in the lake and all that it provides. At a
break in his oratory, the Texan enquires as to the
gent's opinion of this great land feature. the gent
from Ontario casually replies "Up home we call this a
POND!"

It's a country waiting to be seen and probably one of
the best buys for a vacation.

Howard

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:15:46 -0500
From: "glen schroeder" <gschroeder10@[removed];
To: "otr" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  It's In The Book

Hi David and list.

The record you're talking about is "It's In The Book" by Johnny Stanley. I
don't have the lyrics or know where to find them but I do have the record,
or at least I have it on tape. If you want it, I could put it on a cassette
for you. It's really funny. I remember my brother got the record when I was
about five years old. I remember it was the first 45 that he got.

Love Dis list

Glen Schroeder

Madison WI

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:16:02 -0500
From: mark koldys <mkoldys@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Johnny Dollar is NOT Sea Hunt

I'll also reiterate the reason for my initial curiosity: I couldn't
escape the notion that that same music had been used as the theme for
television's _Seahunt_. It was.

I'm sorry but you are mistaken. This notion seems to resurface
regularly, but the themes are not the same. The first few notes are the
same and then they go off in different directions (lowercase letters =
falling pitch, uppercase = rising):

SEA HUNT: G - G - A-flat - f - g - G - B-flat - g - g - G - A-flat -
B-flat - f - G - A-flat - etc
JOHNNY $: G - G - A-flat - f - g - G - A-flat - f - G - d - E-flat - c
- D - E-flat - c - etc

As the site [removed] explains, the Johnny Dollar
theme was taken from a music library and came into use on the show
around 1955. The Sea Hunt theme was written for that show, and is
copyrighted 1958, three years after the J$ theme.

--
"He who feeds the chicken deserves the egg." --Charlie Chan

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:16:15 -0500
From: "Kenneth Ruggles" <kruggles@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Eddie Lawrence, The Old Philosopher
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I want to thank everyone who wrote to tell me the name of the 50's/60's
comedian Eddie Lawrence who made famous the line "Is that's what bothering you
bunky?. I knew if any group knew the name, it would be the this group who
subscribe to this newsletter. I was able to find a CD album, The Jazzy Old
Philosopher, on both [removed] and [removed] and purchased it. It seems like
this is the only one on CD since it was made during the 1990's. I found some
other albums in record format available on EBAY, but since I no longer have a
turntable hooked up to my stereo system, think I will pass on them. Hopefully,
I can find some of the older albums which have been transferred to cassette.

 Again, thanks everyone for letting me know the name of this comedian. I wish
I had the opportunity to see him live back in his heyday back in the 1950's
and 1960's. I found out when searching the internet, that he was big on the
"Borsch (?) Belt back at that time.

 Ken Ruggles

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:51:12 -0500
From: "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: More on Dragnet

Does anybody remember "Dragnet 1968"? That was an "updated" TV series by
& with Jack Webb that attempted to replicate the success of the original
radio & TV series. It didn't work. It was boring. It was canceled after
one or two seasons.

    The '60s 'Dragnet' ran for three seasons and was quite successful.
 It's been rerun almost constantly since it was cancelled.  Incidentally,
the show was not canned by NBC, but by Webb himself, who was getting tired
of it.

Jennifer

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:52:23 -0500
From: "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: more on Jack Webb

    Both 'Pat Novak' and 'Johnny Madero' featured that over-the-top
descriptive dialogue; 'Madero' was essentially a copy of 'Novak' for
the Mutual network.

Jennifer

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:35:34 -0500
From: "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  uglied to death

Hi all,

Ed Howell wrote

I believe that if those new women hadn't been brought
over here
we would have eventually uglied ourselves to death.

Ed, I have to disagree with you.  In the mid '70s I knew a retired Senior
RAF Medical Officer who had retired to Kilkenney Ireland, he was known as
(what else) Doc.  He told me a story that happened to him when he was just a
wee lad. "My father took me to the docks one day.  There was a huge crowd
there, bands playing, people waving flags.  I was too small to see over the
crowd, so my father put me on his shoulders so that I could see.  An
American ship was docked with the gangplank down and coming down the
gangplank were the first American soldiers to come to England for WWI.  They
were tall, HANDSOME, young men in their uniforms".  He went on to say that
as he and his father left, his father said to him  "son, we have just won
this war".  After looking at pictures of soldiers from different wars I
think Doc was right.  Most of the pictures of doughboys show that they were
indeed handsome devils.
Compare "tall, handsome young men" to the nickname of GIs in
[removed], maybe we had already uglied ourselves between the two
world wars.
With tongue slightly in cheek.

Roby McHone
Fairbanks, Alaska

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:36:54 -0500
From: "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed];
To: "otr message" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Eddie Lawrence

Found a little 30sec clip of Eddie Lawrence on [removed] from a Christmas
album of various [removed] has 3 cuts from "Christmas Philosopher."
All I could
find.

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:08:27 -0500
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Candy Matson Update

I have a contact with Bear Manor Media to write a book on radio's lady
detectives, which will be published around December 2003.

In my research for the "Candy Matson, YUkon 2-8209" chapter of my book,
I have been fortunate to recently locate two former crew members and one
regular cast member.

Julian "Jay" Rendon, the assistant sound effects man on that show, is
retired in the San Francisco area and we have been corresponding for
several months. The senior sound effects man on the series, Bill
Brownell, is also retired and lives in the area of Roseville, CA.  He is
not in good health, although his daughter, Randi, thinks he would be
interested only in talking to his old friends in the broadcast business.

Through the assistance of Ken Ackerman and his "Broadcast Legends" group
in California, I was able to telephone Henry Leff today.  He, of course,
was Candy's boy friend, Lt. Ray Mallard.  Leff is now 84 and he and his
wife just celebrated their 61st wedding anniversary. He was astounded,
but very pleased, that anyone still recalls that lady detective show
that ended over a half century ago. Leff resides in a retirement home in
northern California.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
[removed]

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:51:48 -0500
From: "Bob & Lois Reynolds" <boblo1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  National Audio Theater

I would like to put aplug in for a local group called "National  Audio
Theater" formerly "The Blue Ridge Players".  They record various shows and
furnish the cassettes to the blind and visually impaired people at no charge
to those people. They sell the tapes to the public inorder to use those
funds to create new programs and cover the expenses to get the programs to
their people.  To receive a list of programs available please send a SASE to
Nationl Audio Theater, POB 700, Trynon, NC 28782 or e-mail
nataudio@[removed].  As a non-profit organization they do a great job.  In
fact last  month they did a live radio show, The Red Headed League at a
local church, complete with sound effects,etc.  They really need support to
get the programs to those you need them.  Bob Reynolds boblo1@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:28:31 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Glen Ford story update

Hi Everybody, I figure out the show when Glen Ford worked on when a lady was
dieing.  I have to thank Hal for leading me on the right track.  After I
talk to Hal I check my files and pulled out an interview that Ray Bream did
with Arthur Anderson.  John and Larry Gassman were in the studio too.
Arthur talk about the same story.  Then I check my Radio Stars book that
Thomas Delong wrote about Patricia Ryan who died the day after doing a
Cavalcade of America with Glen Ford on 2-14-49 called valentine for Sophia.
Does any one have a copy of this show and may I obtain a copy of it for that
way I can make sure we can get the right background for Glen,s book about
his work in radio.  Thank you for any help,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:56:41 -0500
From: Shenbarger@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Recording From Computer to Tape
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In a message dated 2/4/2003 12:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, Dixon writes:

If it's a compact (Walkman size) tape deck the ends of the cable will both
be 1/8" plugs.

I tried that and for some reason I get a loud hiss when I record.
Interestingly enough, when I plug headphones straight into the sound card
jack this doesn't happen.  Anyone know why this happens, and what (if
anything) I can do about it?  And should I plug the cord into the recorder's
mic jack or the aux jack?

Plug into the recorder's Aux In or Line In jack.

Other details -

Some sound cards have a separate Line Out jack in addition to the speaker
jack(s), if you have that use it.

My sound card is typical of cards made four years ago and the low end cards
today. It has one Line Out jack for speakers, one Line In jack and a
microphone jack. It also has a 15-pin combination joystick and MIDI connector
which is not used for audio signals.  Some sound cards may have two speaker
out jacks for front and rear channels of a surround sound system.

All of the audio jacks (mini jacks) on the computer end are "stereo"
connections. The patch cables you use with them need to be stereo otherwise
one channel will be shorted to ground. When you look at the plugs, there will
be two individual metallic sections on the end of the connector. The tip is
about 1/8" long and the ring is about 1/8" long. The remainder is called the
shell and is about 1/4" long. Do not use a mono patch cable which has only a
tip and a shell connection.

If the recorder you are using is a stereo recorder with a mini-jack line
input, use a simple stereo patch cable with plugs on both ends. They are
generally about six feet long. You can buy an extension cable if you need
additional length.

If the recorder you are using is a simple mono recorder, you will need to
split the two channels using a cable that has the stereo mini plug on one end
and two mono mini plugs on the other. It doesn't matter which of the two mono
ends you use as the mono signal will be the same on both channels of OTR
recordings.

If your recorder is a genuine stereo recorder or Hi-Fi component, you will
probably need a patch cable that has RCA type jacks. These are typical of the
kind of plugs used to connect audio and video signals in a home audio and TV
systems. I recommend using the regular stereo patch cable with mini plugs on
both ends and an adapter to go on the recorder end. The adapter will have a
female mini jack (female) on one end and two RCA plugs on the other.

If you are recording stereo programs, the convention is that red connectors
are associated with the "right" channel, which may be called channel A or
channel 1.

You can find illustrations of cable ends at this Radio Shack help page. Note
the RCA jack and stereo and mono phone plugs.

[removed]

If you are still having trouble, please email me directly.

Don Shenbarger

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:56:19 -0500
From: TallPaulK@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  It's In The Book

David Buswell asked about a novelty song from the mid 50's about Grandma's
lye soap.

The 45 single by Johnny Standley on the Capitol label was "It's In The Book
(Part 1 & 2)"  Part 1 was a preacher-type reading of Mary Had A Little Lamb.
Part 2 was the song David remembered about Grandma's lye soap.

Standley did a few other sides that were quite funny.  I have eight sides in
my collection.

-                Paul Kattelman - Sharonville, Ohio

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