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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 316

Table Of Contents: 

	 Quiz Show scandal
	 Re. "If I have [removed]"
	 Re: 78 Records
	 Re: Wendy Warren and the News
	 watching the radio
	 Re: Old 78ıs
	 Re:  [removed] Digest V96 #311
	 Airdates And Lux 
	 undated programs
	 RR themes
	 Trains on Radio
	 Besser late than never
	 Wounded Ranger

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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:59:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Quiz Show scandal
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

> Date: 2 Sep 1996 12:27:16 CST
> From: [removed]@[removed]
> To: otr@[removed]
> Subject: Lux and Quiz shows
> Message-Id: <m0uxckG-000YUQC@[removed]>
> 
> hi All,
> Just saw the movie ?Quiz Show the other night and I was wondering if
> during the quiz show scandalls if any radio quiz shows were found guilty
> of any wroung doing?

By 1958-59, when the Quiz Show scandal broke, I doubt there were any radio
quiz shows left (except possibly the radio version of Groucho Marx's
show, if that was still on).  The really big money shows were exclusively
television creations.

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                                      617/367-0468
15 Court Square                                   lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2573                    [removed]~lawyer/
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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:21:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Betty Jean Davis <betdav@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Re. "If I have [removed]"
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

This was not sung by Smilin' Ed McConnell. It was the theme song for 
Edward McHugh, "The Gospel Singer" who had a 15-minute hymn program on 
NBC. I think it had organ accompaniment.

The song is "An Evening Prayer" by Charles H. Gabriel (copyright 1911, the 
Rodeheaver Company). It is in some old hymnals, and I have copies of it.

Walter W. Davis
Corpus Christi Tx

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:12:45 -0400
From: RLINSURF@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: 78 Records
Message-ID: <960903041245_275744534@[removed]>

> Please bear with me here, inasmuch as this is not really OTR. But I figured
> some on this forum might have some advice.
> 
> One of my aunts recently died at age 92, and my father is going through her
> "stuff" and has come up with a lot of old 78-rpm records. He asked me if he
> should just toss 'em, or would they be of any value to anyone. I'm quite
> certain that *none* are OTR transcriptions.
> 
> Is anyone here either a collector of 78's or perhaps can recommend a
> newsgroup or Listserv group dedicated to the subject?
> 
> I'm not looking to making any money on this, just hate to throw anything
> away that someone might want.

I unfortunately didn't catch the name of the writer of the original message
here. If you're still interested in doing something with your old 78's, I
know of a highly worthy way of disposing of and/or selling them. I have a
friend, Jim Bedoin, a well-known collector in the Old-Time music world, and
good friend of both Ian Whitcomb (a name those in this field are well
familiar with, and the host of his own Old-Time Music Radio show -- four
nights a week!), and of OTR. He not only collects, and maintains, but also
perserves the music. He is the creator of a fine, and well respected record
company which cleans, archives and perserves the material in his collection,
and then releases the best of it on CD. His CD's are joys of listening to any
Old-Time Music fan, giving us the best of many artists who would simply be
forgotten if not for his efforts. (A sad example of this is his next release,
a collection of the best of Cliff Edwards, better known to Disney fans as the
voice of Jiminy Cricket, but who was also one of the most influential
recording stars of his era, and who, unfortunately, died impoverished, and
unknown. Were it not for Take Two Records, the work of this great artist
would simply never be heard again.)

So if you're interested in doing something really worthwhile with your
recordings, I know someone who would certainly put them to good use. If you
e-mail me, I'l let you have his number to discuss it.

Yours,
Jeffrey

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:18:51 -0400
From: JanBach@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Wendy Warren and the News
Message-ID: <960903081849_514911589@[removed]>

Hello, again --
I remember Wendy Warren vividly from the late forties. That "news reader" who
gave the hard news at the top of each Wendy Warren episode was none other
than Douglas Edwards! And after Wendy gave her spiel and the newscast was
over, Doug would say goodbye to Wendy and you could hear her walking (on high
heels, of course) out of the studio and into the real world, where her
adventures of the previous day would resume.

Jan Bach

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Date: 03 Sep 96 09:00:58 EDT
From: Michael Berger <[removed]@[removed]>
To: otr <otr@[removed]>
Subject: watching the radio
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Two topics:

1. I don't remember him as a lisper, but the frenetic comic (Oh you crazy you!!) in question was almost surely Joe Besser. Remember him as a regular on shows during the '40s, and later was seen occasionally in the early days of TV. I think the gay allusion is stretching it. This was simply his persona, and it got lots of laughs.

The one comic I do remember whose lisp was part of the act, so to speak, was Pinky Lee.

2. Looking at the radio: I grew up during the 1940s, and I can assure you that yes, I DID look at the radio, especially the large dial, which became a football field as the announcer would tell us that "Notre Dame is moving from right to left on your radio dial."

But the larger point is how radio, in my child's mind, acted as a central pivot to the rest of the room, or whatever space I was in while listening to sports broadcasts, serials, dramas, comedy shows, etc. I found it impossible to read comics, or do much of anything, when my favorite programs were on. Radio commanded my attention.

Homework may have been on my old rolltop desk in San Francisco, but when the brass started clanging to announce Terry and the Pirates, my mind's eye (little wonder an OTR service took that name) began wandering to whatever objects were close by.

There's a marvelous Stan Freberg skit in which an old lady is interviewed about her recollections of old radio. She talks about "staring into space" while listening to The Shadow, and some people in the audience chuckle at the thought.

Last week, I listened to a Shadow episode I taped while visiting NYC earlier. Within moments, I was "staring off into space," creating my own image of the words and actions behind the speakers.

That was and is the magic of radio, and as someone mentioned a few days ago, you can still hear it on BBC, or via BBC Short Wave, which has at least two regular dramatic series that I know of.

Many years ago, Alistair Cooke reported that a BBC survey asked children for their comments on radio and TV programs.

"I like radio," replied an 8-year old. "The pictures are better."



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Date:  3 Sep 96  9:01:50
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Cc: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Old 78ıs
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Donıt throw them away.  They are worth money to collectors.
The best thing to do is to turn them over to an auction house.  They will advertise them for you to collectors across the country via their newsletter and split the profits with you.
One such company with whom I deal is Garyıs Exchange, [removed] Box 1046, Stuart, Virginia 24171-1046.  There are others as well but I donıt have their names readily available. 

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 96 10:05:44 EDT
From: msolda@[removed] (m solda)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:  [removed] Digest V96 #311
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

jean,

when and how do you want to receive this spreadsheet?  i am in favor of file
sharing so we can both work on it if changes need to be made.

let me know.

thanks.

mark

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:15:39 +0000
From: "F. Charles Simar" <FCharlesSimar@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Airdates And Lux 
Message-ID: <[removed]@DEFAULT>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I don't know if this just happened to me or to others, but when Joe Salerno
posted a list of
shows that he needed airdates to, I got the first part of the message okay,
but the actual
list was a bunch of slashes, backslashes, symbols, and a couple of numbers
and letters.
The rest of the digest came out fine.  Joe, could you try to re-post that
list or email it to
me direct.  I will do my best to help you.  Here is my address:

          FCharlesSimar@[removed]

Also, I'm still looking for a few airdates.  Send me any info to the above
address or post
them to the digest.


Show Title                        Episode Title

Abbott & Costello                 Tax Dodge
Abbott & Costello                 Room Service
Adventures Of Maisie              Thursday Island Pink
Bickersons, The                   The Operation
Blondie                           The $2000 Goomis Fly
Blondie                           Camping Out With Alexander
Bold Venture                      The Mario Cavana Case
Bold Venture                      Slate Shannon Accused Of Murder
Boston Blackie                    The Willabrandt Diamonds
Burns & Allen Show                Pig Roast
Burns & Allen Show                Christmas Show (w/guest Eddie Cantor)
Burns & Allen Show                The Old Boyfriend 
Cape Cod Mystery Theatre          The Caller On Line One
Charlie McCarthy                  Charlie Starts A Book Club
Cisco Kid                         The Black Kerchief
Clyde Beatty Show                 The Devil Cat
Frank Morgan Show                 Frank The Aviator
Gangbusters                       The Golf Course Murder
Gangbusters                       The Case Of The Chicago Tunnel Gang
Great Gildersleeve                Anything For Money
Great Gildersleeve                A Rose By Any Other Name
Green Hornet                      Justice Wears A Blindfold
Hardy Family, The                 Learning To Knit
Hardy Family, The                 The Gambling Syndicate
Hopalong Cassidy                  A Jailer Named Satan
I Was A Communist For The FBI     Treason Comes In Cans
Lives Of Harry Lime               Ticket To Tangier
Lone Ranger                       Dan Reid Accused Of Murder
Mr. & Mrs. Blandings              The Early Anniversary
My Friend Irma                    American History
My Friend Irma                    Vanishing Ghost
My Little Margie                  Queen Of The Cannibals
NBC Short Stories                 Frankenstein
NBC Short Stories                 Dr. Jekyll And Mr. Hyde
NBC University Theatre            Nose-ology
NBC University Theatre            The Fall Of The House Of Usher
New Adventures Of Michael Shayne  The Case Of The Model Murder
Shadow, The                       The Tomb Of Terror
Stand By For Adventure            The Knife
That Brewster Boy                 The Lovesick Daughter
That Brewster Boy                 Begonia Butter Cutters
Three For Adventure               Roundhouse Rosie
Whistler, The                     Lady From The Sea
Whistler, The                     Delivery Guaranteed



Also, someone asked about episodes of Lux Radio Theatre, "Our Town" and
"Miracle On 34th Street"
are very good episodes.  Very enjoyable and a great cast both times.

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:53:04 -0500
From: Joe Salerno <jsalerno@[removed]>
To: "'OTR LIST'" <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: undated programs
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I see my attachment didn't make it to the list. I'll try paste this =
time. Wonderful feature - anything that saves typing.

Undated Radio Programs   - All believed to be ca. 1942-1943   All 30 =
minutes unless indicated. jsalerno@[removed]
=20
Bob Hope (Pepsodent)  Patsy Kelley, comediane. Story of Bob's Life - =
enlisting in service w. Skinny Ennis

Red Skelton (Raleigh)  Mean Widdle Kid-Father's boss comes to dinner; =
Sheriff Dead-Eye fakes capture of crooks to impress ladies; Clem =
Kadidlehopper

Manhattan Merry-Go-Round (Dr. Lyons Tooth Powder) first song is *This is =
story of a starry night* (based on Tchaikovsky Symphony #6)

Jack Benny Show (Jello)  live from Camp Callan, CA; Dennis Day sings =
*Sleepy Lagoon*; Phil Harris is a father; Andy Devine makes a brief =
appearance

Bing Crosby (Kraft) Bing visits Cairo, Illinois. Victor Borge breif =
appearance

Bob Hope (Pepsodent) live from New Orleans

Lux Radio Theatre  "Last of Mrs. Cheney"  (this one is incomplete, =
originally 1 hour)

Hour of Charm (G-E Mazda Lamps) pop version of Greig Piano Concerto; =
Corp. Earl Oxford sings from Ft. Bragg NC;=20

Waltz Time (Phillips Milk of Magnesia)  One Night of Love; Evelyn =
MacGregor sings *Take Me*

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Date: 3 Sep 96 11:29:00 -0400
From: amo@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: RR themes
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text

There is a Boston Blackie episode with a railroad
theme.  The title is "Old 86 is Missing".  A RR
train vanishes into thin air and Blackie solves it, of course.

Arlene Osborne
amosborne@[removed]

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Date: 03 Sep 96 11:30:11 EDT
From: "Robert I. Scherago" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Trains on Radio
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Marty Dzik asked about OTR shows involving [removed]

Let's not forget Grand Central Station's great opening, which
used train sound effects under the announcer's description 
of the thundering hoofbeats of the great horse --- er, I mean
the thundering sounds of the train as it sped its way through
the city's tunnels into the station.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
In the words of the philosopher, "Many men smoke, but
Fu Man Chu."

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 09:52:52 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Besser late than never
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

 Walter W. Davis of Corpus Christi Tx asks:  "I cannot remember the actor
who appeared on some show, always introduced by a harried
announcer who said, 'Will you come in, sir? (pause)  Will you come in
now? (pause ) WILL YOU PLEASE COME IN?!'  To which the character
responded, 'Don't RUSH me!! You Crazy, you!' and another lisped line of
his was, 'OOOoooo, you're just so CRAZY, you!' Help!  Who was this?"

Chet replies that it was the great second-banana comic actor JOE
BESSER - who often introduced himself that way ("No, Joe BESSer, you
crazy, you!").  Joe replaced Shemp Howard for the last of the Three
Stooges short films, appeared on Abbott & Costello (both radio and TV)
as Stinky (a finky li'l kid), did a mighty funny role on Desi Arnez' the
MOTHERS-IN-LAW tv show, and really showed up just about
everywhere as he was always good for a few laughs even without any
jokes.  There's a Jack Benny show (with Joe AND Oscar Levant!) which
spoofs INFORMATION, PLEASE.  Joe's lines consist of telling his name,
giving a non-answer ("Mr Besser, I see you have your hand up."  "Oh,
not for THA-AT!"), and generally "nothing" lines - but he had the audience
completely out of control.  Anytime I play that tape to someone, they lose it
completely when Joe so much as says his name.  Hilarious delivery. 
Judging by the "character" he developed, I'd say he was playing a "sissy"
as opposed to gay.  (Another example which did this was Louis Nye on
TV's "the Beverly Hillbillies.")

---and I'm sure someone with a better memory than I can tell you our
favorite fussy salesman from the Jack Benny show.  ("Prissy"?  I dunno. 
Fussy, YES!  "I can't sell you a ticket to New York."  "You just sold a ticket
to New York to that man ahead of me."  "Yes, but I like to keep my stacks
EVEN.")
*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people
happy?"  --Lew Scannon
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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 10:12:15 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wounded Ranger
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

John Koppel asks:  "This question might have already been posted here,
but here it goes.  When Earle Grasser of the Lone Ranger was killed, did
the show go off the air for any time or was the transition to Brace
Beemer pretty smooth?"

Chet sez:  I have the five-part semi-serial right here at work, listening to it,
and it seems to be pretty smooth to me.  For most of the first four parts,
we scarcely hear the New Ranger (Beemer).  His participation increased
bit by bit with the last three episodes.  The premise is that he was All
Shot Up.  Another Pioneer Old Woman (APOW) and Yet Another Crazy
Old Coot (YACOC) nurse him to health while YACOC blabs to The Bad
Guys at The Saloon about the Ranger's poor health.  Ranger occasionally
gives advice to Tonto (including stopping Another Cattlemen/Sheepherder
War), but mostly Tonto carries on.  (We always knew he was the brains
of the outfit anyway.)  By the time the Ranger pops back to full health in
the last episode, Beemer's voice makes it sound like the Ranger has
literally been reborn.  In other words, he sounded like Graeser only much
more so.

[removed]
*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people
happy?"  --Lew Scannon
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