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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2008 : Issue 158
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Tape recording clarification          [ Vince Long <vlongbsh@[removed]; ]
      Attorneys on OTR                      [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ Jerry Haendiges <jerryhaendiges@cha ]
      Bing and Taping                       [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
      Ain't that a Knee-Slapper             [ JayHick@[removed] ]
      GBS and Radio                         [ Rentingnow@[removed] ]
      Don McNeill's Breakfast Club          [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      6-24 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      FW: Doc Williams newpaper article     [ Bill Knowlton <udmacon1@[removed] ]
      AFRS - Mosquito network?              [ Chargous@[removed] ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:31:00 -0400
    From: Vince Long <vlongbsh@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Tape recording clarification

    Ken Greenwald said,

>     The first commercial tape machines were released to the radio
>     profession (not the consumer) in late 1947.

    According to "Magnetic Recording: The First 100 Years" by Eric D.
    Daniel, C. Denis Mee, and Mark H. Clark, Brush sold 2,500 of their
    Soundmirror reel to reel machines, the BK401, in 1946. While targeting
    the professional, these machines were available to consumers as well.  I
    bought one from the widow of the original owner and the dates on the 200
    reels of paper-based tape that came with the machine went back to 1947.

    BTW, the content of those reels is available, free of charge, on my web
    site:

    [removed]

    Vince

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:31:26 -0400
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Attorneys on OTR
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           I an understand why some of the 30 minute and 60 minute OTR
    programs which centered around attorneys as the protagonists only
    referred to their cases and rarely, if ever, showed the attorneys in the
    courtroom.  Some of the OTR shows such as "Perry Mason" were
    serials (right?), yet centered mostly around the investigation and
    gathering of information/evidence, but rarely showed the attorneys in
    the courtroom explaining and/or defending what they'd uncovered. Why?

           Was this the standard or had we become so jaded by the advent of
    courtroom dramas on TV that we expected more?

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:32:20 -0400
    From: Jerry Haendiges <jerryhaendiges@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

    Hi Friends,

    Here is this week's schedule for my Olde Tyme Radio Network. Here you
    may listen to high-quality broadcasts with Tom Heathwood's "Heritage
    Radio Theatre," Big John Matthews and Steve "Archive" Urbaniak's "The
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    Check out our High-Quality mp3 catalog at:
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    =======================================

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION

    A TRIBUTE TO THEIR MAJESTIES
    6-8-39    Historic First American visit by King George IV and Queen
    Elizabeth
    HOST: Gertrude Lawrence.
    MUSIC: Ray Noble and His Orchestra.
    STARS: George Sanders, Leslie Howard, Anna Neagle, Basil Rathbone, Brian
    Aherne, C. Aubrey Smith, Cedric Hardwicke, David Niven, Edna Best,
    Freddie Bartholomew, George M. Cohan, Greer Garson, Herbert Marshall,
    Judith Anderson, Laurence Olivier, Madeleine Carroll, Nigel Bruce,
    Reginald Gardiner, Roland Young, Ronald Colman, Vivien Leigh

    PARK AVENUE PENNERS
    Episode 39    6-27-37    "Vacation On The Moon"
    CBS Cocoa Malt Sundays 6:00 - 6:30
    Announcer: Bill Goodwin
    Stars: Joe Penner, Joy Hodges, Gene Austin
    Music: Jimmy Grier's Biltmore Bowl Orchestra

    THE BIG STORY
    Episode 144    1-11-50    "Gambling And Divorce Can Mean Murder"
    The story of Frank McCuiloch of the Reno Gazette
    ==================================

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATER

    CANDY MATSON
    (NBC) 4/4/49 "The Donna Dunham Case"

    AMOS AND ANDY MUSIC HALL
    (CBS) 11/25/60 The last network radio show of this most famous duo of radio.

    JERRY AT FAIR OAKS
    (Synd) 1937-38 First episode of the 2nd series featuring an unbelievable
    kid leaving circus life to attend military school
    ====================================

    THE GLOWING DIAL

    Bob Hope Show - "Chico Marx"
    originally aired November 8, 1938 on NBC
    Starring: Bob Hope, Jerry Colonna, Six Hits and a Miss, Skinnay Ennis
    and his Orchestra, Chico Marx, Bill Goodwin announcing.
    Sponsor: Pepsodent

    Bob Hope Show - "Basil Rathbone"
    originally aired January 28, 1941 on NBC
    Starring: Bob Hope, Jerry Colonna, Six Hits and a Miss, Skinnay Ennis
    and his Orchestra, Art Baker announcing the commercials, Bill Goodwin
    announcing the program.
    Sponsor: Pepsodent

    Bob Hope Show - "New Bandleader Desi Arnaz"
    originally aired September 24, 1946 on NBC
    (first show of 9th season for Pepsodent)
    Starring: Bob Hope, Jerry Colonna, Carol Richards, The Starlighters,
    Barbara Jo Allen as Vera Vague, Desi Arnaz and his Orchestra, Wendall
    Niles announcing.
    Sponsor: Pepsodent

    Bob Hope Show - "Jack Benny"
    originally aired November 9, 1948 on NBC
    Starring: Bob Hope, Irene Ryan, Jack Kirkwood, Doris Day, Bill Farrell,
    Four Hits and a Miss, Les Brown and his Band of Renown, Hy Averback
    announcing.
    Sponsor: Swan Soap

    Bob Hope Show - "Jack Webb, Dragnet Parody"
    originally aired February 4, 1953 on NBC
    Starring: Bob Hope, Bill Johnstone, Jane Morgan, Margaret Whiting, Les
    Brown and his Band of renown, Bill Goodwin announcing.
    Sponsor: Jell-O
    ==================================

    If you have any questions or request, please feel free to contact me.

          Jerry Haendiges

          Jerry@[removed]  562-696-4387
          The Vintage Radio Place   [removed]
          Largest source of Old Time Radio Logs, Articles and programs on
    the Net

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:32:32 -0400
    From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bing and Taping

    I've read a lot about how and why Bing went to tape, and  here is the
    version I have [removed] Bing loved golf and want to be tied down to live
    shows on Thursday. He could record several shows in on day with the the
    same audience. As example on January 14, 1948 George Burns was Bing's
    guest and the following show January 21, 1948 Gracie Allen & Georg Burns
    were the guests.
     From little remarks  I assumed that Gracie was in the studio on the
    14th  and George never left the studio to be on the show with [removed]
    the 21st.

    Frank McGurn

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:33:03 -0400
    From: JayHick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ain't that a Knee-Slapper
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    >From Univ. Press of Mississippi, Jackson MS 601-432-6205 <
    [removed]>

    There was a time when rural comedians drew most of their humor from tales of
    farmers' daughters, hogs, hens, and hill country high jinks. Lum and Abner and
    Ma and Pa Kettle might not have toured happily under the "Redneck" marquee,
    but they were its precursors.
    In Ain't That a Knee-Slapper: Rural Comedy in the Twentieth Century, author
    Tim Hollis traces the evolution of this classic American form of humor in the
    mass media, beginning with the golden age of radio, when such comedians as Bob
    Burns, Judy Canova, and Lum and Abner kept listeners laughing. The book then
    moves into the motion pictures of the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s, when the
    established radio stars enjoyed second careers on the silver screen and were
    joined
    by live-action renditions of the comic strip characters Li'l Abner and Snuffy
    Smith, along with the much-loved Ma and Pa Kettle series of films. Hollis
    explores such rural sitcoms as The Real McCoys in the late 1950s and from the
    1960s, The Andy Griffith Show, The Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, Hee Haw,
    and
    many others. Along the way, readers are taken on side trips into the world of
    animated cartoons and television commercials that succeeded through a
    distinctly rural sense of fun.
    While rural comedy fell out of vogue and networks sacked shows in the early
    1970s, the emergence of such hits as The Dukes of Hazzard brought the genre
    whooping back to the mainstream. Hollis concludes with a brief look at the
    current state of rural humor, which manifests itself in a more suburban,
    redneck
    brand of standup comedy.
    Tim Hollis is the author of numerous books, including Hi There, Boys and
    Girls! America's Local Children's TV Programs and (with Greg Ehrbar) Mouse
    Tracks:
    The Story of Walt Disney Records.
    Lobby card--Li'l Abner movie promotion, courtesy Tim Hollis
    256 pages (approx.), 6 1/8 x 9 1/4 inches, 99 b&w illustrations, index,
    bibliography. Cost: Paperback; $25; Cloth; $50

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:33:14 -0400
    From: Rentingnow@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  GBS and Radio

    There was a  discussion some time ago about why Shaw's plays were not adapted
    for  radio.  Theater Guild (TG) was the main producer of Shaw's plays in New
    York.  The biggest problem they had with him was that he would not allow
    any,  I mean ANY cuts or changing of the words.  Most of his plays  then could
    not be produced on radio except "Don Juan in Hell" on which was part  of "Man
    and Superman" and is like a one act.  That detail was discussed  previously on
    the group.
    I have a book somewhere that  details the whole problem with Shaw and cuts
    and why sometimes TG couldn't  produce his plays either because they were too
    long or, in some cases, not  particularly good unless they were cut or
    modified.
     Since TG couldn't  tighten them up, they were unwilling to invest the money
    in a production that  had a high probability of failing commercially .
    TG was  proud of the large number of good radio programs they produced.  But
    I  don't think that there was any Shaw.
    The film "Anthony and  Cleopatra" was written or under the supervision of
    Shaw.  That was the way  the film was able to be made and cut and changed. But
    this was the exception not  the rule.
    The book also details the granting of the rights  to "Pygmalion" and its
    conversion to "My Fair Lady".  If my memory serves  me correctly TG was
    involved
    at one point but dropped out of producing it much  to their regret.
    I can't find the book detailing this at  this moment.  But will provide more
    definitive details later.

    Larry

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:33:23 -0400
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Don McNeill's Breakfast Club

    Today is the 75th anniversary of the first broadcast of Don McNeill's
    Breakfast Club.

    [removed]

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:33:30 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  6-24 births/deaths

    June 24th births

    06-24-1891 - Irving Pichel - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 7-13-1954
    actor, film director: "Gulf Screen Theatre";"Screen Director's
    Playhouse"
    06-24-1893 - Arthur Hughes - Bloomington, IL - d. 12-28-1982
    actor: Bill Davidson "Just Plain Bill"; Stephen Dallas "Stella Dallas"
    06-24-1895 - Jack Dempsey - Manassa, CO - d. 5-31-1983
    boxing champion: "Ben Bernie Show"; "Kemtone Hour"; "Saturday Night
    Bandwagon"
    06-24-1900 - Gene Austin - Gainesville, TX - d. 1-24-1972
    singer: "Gene Austin"; "Joe Penner Show"; "[removed] Musical Showroom"
    06-24-1904 - Phil Harris - Linton, IN - d. 8-11-1995
    bandleader, singer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"
    06-24-1909 - Milton Katims - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-27-2006
    violist, conductor: "NBC Symphony"; "Eternal Light"
    06-24-1910 - Cootie Williams - Mobile, AL - d. 9-14-1985
    jazz trumpet player: "Jubilee"
    06-24-1910 - Katherine Locke - Kalakenchu, Russia - d. 9-12-1995
    actor: (Wife of Norman Corwin) "Columbia Presents Corwin"
    06-24-1912 - Brian Johnston - Little Berkhamsted, England - d. 1-5-1994
    entertainer-commentator: "In Town Tonight"; "Down Your Way"
    06-24-1914 - Allan E. Sloane - d. 4-29-2001
    writer: "Indictment"; "Bulldog Drummond"; "The Man Behind the Gun"
    06-24-1915 - Jack Sterling - Baltimore, MD - d. 10-31-1991
    announcer/emcee: "Make Up Your Mind"
    06-24-1921 - Peggy DeCastro - On a Sugar Plantation, Dominican
    Republic - d. 3-6-2004
    singer: (The DeCastro Sisters) "Steve Lawrence Show"; "Here's to
    Veterans"
    06-24-1923 - Jack Carter - NYC
    comedian: "Philip Morris Playhouse on Broadway"
    06-24-1924 - Mickey "Junior" O'Day - Newark, NJ
    actor: Peter Pig "Children's Hour"; Neddie Evans "Big Sister"
    06-24-1924 - Thelma Rogers - Coventry, England - d. 1-13-2000
    actor: "The Archers"
    06-24-1925 - Louis Jean Brunelli - NYC
    assistant conductor: "Longines Symphonette"

    June 24th deaths

    01-28-1921 - Jerry Appy - d. 6-24-1990
    sportscaster: KXXX Colby, Kansas
    02-26-1916 - Jackie Gleason - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-24-1987
    comedian: "Jackie Gleason-Les Tremayne Show"
    04-09-1883 - Frank King - Cashton, WI - d. 6-24-1969
    cartoonist: Created Gasoline Alley comic strip
    05-23-1911 - Dorothy Lee - Los Angeles, CA - d. 6-24-1999
    singer: "Fred Waring and His Pennsylvanians"
    05-26-1915 - Ray Austin - NYC - d. 6-24-1998
    composer/arranger for many big bands
    05-29-1937 - Misora Hibari - Yokohama, Japan - d. 6-24-1989
    enka singer: "Kohaku Utagassen"
    07-04-1913 - Barbara Weeks - Boston, MA - d. 6-24-2003
    actor: "Pulitzer Prize Plays"; "Inner Sanctum Mysteries"; "Romance"
    08-04-1889 - William Keighley - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-24-1984
    host: Lux Radio Theatre
    08-28-1898 - Artells Dickson - Oklahoma Territory - d. 6-24-1968
    actor: Tom Mix "Tom Mix"; Slim "Pretty Kitty Kelly"
    09-06-1908 - Paul Lavalle - Beacon, NY - d. 6-24-1997
    conductor: "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street"; "Dinah
    Shore Show"
    09-13-1912 - Claude Casey - Enoree, SC - d. 6-24-1999
    country, bluegrass: "Briarhoppers"
    09-18-1894 - Willard Robison - Shelbina, MO - d. 6-24-1968
    orchestra leader: (Evangelist of Rhythm) "Plantation Echoes"
    10-09-1912 - John Tackaberry - Adelaide, Australia - d. 6-24-1969
    writer: "Jack Benny Program"
    10-21-1907 - Jack Holden - Alba, MI - d. 6-24-1971
    announcer: "National Barn Dance"; "Uncle Ezra"
    12-21-1922 - Paul Winchell - NYC - d. 6-24-2005
    ventriloquist: "Paul Winchell-Jerry Mahoney Show"
    12-28-1879 - Frank Blanchford - Toronto, Canada - d. 6-24-1957
    violinist: WGY Schenectady, New York

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:33:48 -0400
    From: Bill Knowlton <udmacon1@[removed];
    To: "radio, oldtime" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  FW: Doc Williams newpaper article
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    I'm passing along a new article on WWVA Jamboree pioneer Doc [removed]
    to me by his daughter "Peeper" who often appeared with her sisters with their
    parents on WWVA:

    Bill, you might like to read the article about Dad from our Sunday
    News-Register (our local paper) June 22, 2008, "Doc Williams Reflects on Life"
    full story. It is on their home page for several days at
    [removed]  Comments after the article are gracious and
    interesting. You helped save an historic theater in your area.  Do you have
    any suggestions on the non-profit versus private ownership comment (regarding
    our  Capitol Music Hall in Wheeling) from one of the readers?  Dad will be 94
    on June 26. We are blessed.  Greetings from us all . We appreciate you.
    Barbara (Peeper)

    Bill Knowlton

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:34:02 -0400
    From: Chargous@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  AFRS - Mosquito network?

    I heard this one for the first time on a disc I just did - the Mosquito
    network.  Was that a subdivision of AFRS?

    Travis

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    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:12:01 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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