Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #257
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 8/3/2004 8:56 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 257
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Shadow                                [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
      Nation Lampoon Radio Hour             [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
      Re: Can You Name This Show            [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      The topic that wouldn't die           [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      script pages yet again                [ "[removed] MANN" <voxpop@[removed]; ]
      Another Jackson Beck non-radio bit    [ "John Matthews" <glowingdial@wowway ]
      re: Can you name this show?           [ "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed]; ]
      Mighty Memory Mobile                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Polyline Corporation                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
      Basis for current movie "Paycheck"    [ "Alain Altounian" <[removed]@[removed] ]
      8-4 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      1947 Passover broadcast               [ "khovard@[removed]" <khovard@[removed] ]
      Fwd: Radio Shows-1936                 [ JayHick@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:56:04 -0400
    From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Shadow
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    Hello -- Aug. 1, 2004 CNN Headline News channel ran a bottom banner saying
    this day was the anniversary of the first episode of The Shadow mystery radio
    series in 1930.   Nice to see a national TV network noting the first Shadow
    show to be one of the significant dates in history.   However, they spoiled it
    by adding the part was played by Orson Welles who came along some years later.
    I'm not even sure they have the date absolutely correct.  Once again, I defer
    to Anthony Tollin.  -- Jim Harmon

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    Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:56:39 -0400
    From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Nation Lampoon Radio Hour

    For 59 weeks, ending January, 1975, the National
    Lampoon Radio Hour aired weekly and featured some
    oldtime radio people, including Bob Dryden, Jackson
    Beck and Leon Janney.  Many of the skits used on the
    Lampoon's albums were taken directly from the radio
    show.  This show also launched the careers of some
    more-recent stars, such as Gilda Radner, Bill Murray,
    Paul Schaefer, Chevy Chase, John Belushi, Harold Ramis
    to name but a few.  The older guys like Dryden, Janney
    and Beck always played the older announcer types,
    playing it straight to the younger folks like the
    latter people.  If you can stand the topical
    (sometimes outdated) references such as the Arab oil
    embargo, Watergate, etc. I would think the entire
    series on tape (reel?) would be a rewarding listen.  I
    listened to much of it at the time but I'm sure I
    wasn't aware of the significance of hearing the people
    featured on the series.
    Andy

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:39:49 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Can You Name This Show

    At 09:04 PM 8/2/2004, you wrote:

>     Searching through my OTR collection turned up no episode called Paycheck.
>     I'm looking through titles to see if one rings a bell, but so far nothing
>     does. It might be an X Minus One. Does anybody recognize this plot?

    Doug, the story for the movie is from a short story by Phillip Dick written
    back in the fifties. The story never appeared on any of the fifties SF
    programs. It might have parallels to some other otr show you have heard of,
    but it would probably only be that - a parallel plot.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:40:38 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The topic that wouldn't die

    Bobb Lynnes writes:

>     My theory is as follows: perhaps a fan/writer back in the early  days of the
>     OTR/ Nostalgia craze asked an actor or actress if they  kept(collected) any
>     of their scripts from the shows and was told, "No we  just threw them away
>     after we were done with them".

    This brings two thoughts to [removed] opposite ends of the  argument.  I
    remembered in interviewing Phil Harris, he commented that the  cast usually
    "threw their scripts on the piano."  Thus indicating (with the  possible
    exception
    of Mary, although many of her scripts are kept as duplicates  in the UCLA
    [removed] with THAT if you will) that people did keep  their
    scripts
    in order.

    However, I also remember hearing that Red Skelton supposedly stole some of
    his classic routines by grabbing (or having his wife grab) pages from
    discarded
     Fred Allen script pages from the floor of the studio.  Even the classic
    Guzzler's Gin was supposed to have had this source.  So perhaps Portland or
    Kenny Delmar had fumbley fingers?

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 01:15:30 -0400
    From: "[removed] MANN" <voxpop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  script pages yet again
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    hi all
    recently i was involved in a re-creation and the director provided us
    with 3 ring binders for our scripts and music [removed] guess that took
     care of any page turning noises for the less dextarious (is that a word?) it
    is now!
    chet norris

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 01:16:35 -0400
    From: "John Matthews" <glowingdial@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Another Jackson Beck non-radio bit

    Hi folks, I was very saddened to hear of the passing of Jackson Beck
    recently.  What a voice he had!  I got his autograph at a Friends Of Old
    Time Radio convention a few years ago.  I wanted to get an interview for my
    show as well but he was very busy that weekend and we never got around to
    it.  My loss.  What did I have him sign?  The cover of my laserdisc of Woody
    Allen's "Take The Money And Run".  A hilarious film about a would-be bank
    robber (Woody) who mis-spells hold-up notes.  "Please put 50,000 dollars
    into this bag and apt naturally ... I am holding a gub".  Jackson Beck did
    the narration to this film and did a great job.  Something about his
    authoritative voice delivering those silly lines.  You gotta see it.  In
    addition to his name, he wrote "John, the above is good advice".  Rest in
    peace Jackson, you will be missed.

    John W. Matthews
    The Glowing Dial Page     [removed]
    glowingdial@[removed]    glowingdial@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 02:09:49 -0400
    From: "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  re: Can you name this show?

    Thanks to the several people wrote back to me with ideas. Jim Widner came up
    with the answer -- the movie Paycheck is based on a story by Philip K. Dick,
    which it turns out I read in paperback and only imagined having heard it
    dramatized. Interesting how reading a book can create an audio memory. I
    guess it's the same as the way radio drama creates pictures in our minds. We
    all have our own "memories" of how various radio characters and places look,
    in spite of never actually having seen them. I myself have a vivid picture
    of the Scarlet Queen, and would instantly recognize Phil Carney and Red
    Gallagher on the streets of any tropical city.

    Doug Leary
    Seattle

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:44:34 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mighty Memory Mobile

    A friend in Arkansas is looking for copies of a radio program known as the
    MIGHTY MEMORY MOBILE, which featured recollections of the by-gone era, the
    majority fo the time featuring old time radio.  For reasons I won't get into
    (and it's not a bad thing) he's not on the internet so I'm making this
    posting in the hopes someone will be able to help him.
    His address is:
    Payton Powell
    7205 Geronimo Circle
    North Little Rock, Arkansas 72116

    If anyone has any episodes, please send him a list so he can acquire copies
    of the episodes.
    MG

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:44:52 -0400
    From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Polyline Corporation

    Polyline is one of many places that offers blank recording media and their
    cases.
    I they have been the subject of previous postings, but I am curious to know
    if there are any other sources.  I am primarily interested in plastic cases
    that hold CDs and DVDs.  Polyline offers a limited supply of black plastic
    cases and I'm looking for certain sizes.
    Martin
    mmargrajr@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:45:17 -0400
    From: "Alain Altounian" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "Old. Time. Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Basis for current movie "Paycheck"

    I havn't seen the movie, but i'm fairly certain it is based on a story by
    the author Philip K. Dick
    (and that the film DOES acknowledge this).

    I believe that he was mainly known for his SF stories, with many plots
    involving "time" (like Paycheck)...and that he passed away about 20 years
    [removed] that part of his writing career was during the 50's.

    The movie Bladerunner was based on his book "Do Androids dream of electric
    Sheep?" (great title huh!?) and Cali Gov's "Total Recall" from his "We can
    remember it for you wholesale". The Tom Cruise/Spielberg SF-time
    twist-detective thriller from about 2 years back was also based on one of
    his stories.

    Of course, some of the writer's of OTR Science Fiction (and/or the stories
    themselves) may have influenced him
    ....tho i also believe that "time" was an early common feature of SF stories
    that in turn, predated most SF-ish OTR.

    Alain out.

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:59:39 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  8-4 births/deaths

    August 4th births

    08-04-1889 - William Keighley - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-24-1984
    host: Lux Radio Theatre
    08-04-1890 - Carson Robison - Near Chetopa, KS - d. 3-24-1957
    singer: "Eveready Hour"; "Dutch Masters Mimstrels"
    08-04-1897 - Abe Lyman - Chicago, IL - d. 10-23-1957
    bandleader: "Jack Pearl Show"; "Lavender and New Lace"; "Waltz Time"
    08-04-1901 - Louis Armstrong - New Orleans, LA - d. 7-6-1971
    trumpeter: "Pursuit of Happiness"; "Sealtest Village Store"; "Story of Swing"
    08-04-1903 - Helen Kane - The Bronx, NY - d. 9-26-1966
    actress: (The Boop-Boop-a-Doop Girl) "Today's Children"
    08-04-1904 - Theodore Newton - Lawrenceville, NJ - d. 2-28-1963
    actor: Christopher Parker "Joyce Jordan, [removed]"
    08-04-1905 - Frank Luther - Lakin, KS - d. 11-16-1980
    singer: "Luther-Layman Singer"; "Frank Luther Show"; "Happy Wonder Bakers Trio"
    08-04-1908 - Wally Maher - Ohio - d. 12-27-1951
    actor: Dan Murray "One Man's Family"; Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"
    08-04-1914 - Dick Todd - Montreal, Canada - d. 5-1975
    singer: "Avalon Time"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Rinso-Spry Vaudeville Theatre"
    08-04-1915 - William Keene - PA - d. 5-23-1992
    actor: Red Lantern "Land of the Lost"

    August 4th deaths

    01-29-1913 - Victor Mature - Louisville, KY - d. 8-4-1999
    actor: "Hollywood Star Playhouse"
    04-05-1901 - Melvyn Douglas - Macon, GA - d. 8-4-1981
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-19-1920 - Frank Fontaine - Cambridge, MA - d. 8-4-1978
    comedian: John L. C. Sivoney "Jack Benny Program"
    06-25-1913 - John Pickard - Lascossas, TN - d. 8-4-1993
    actor: Grant Thursday "Pretty Kitty Kelly"; Bruce Barrett "My Son and I"
    08-25-1908 - Walter Burke - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-4-1984
    actor: Mark Saber's Assistant "Inspector Mark Saber"
    10-25-1909 - True Boardman - Seattle, WA - d. 8-4-2003
    writer, narrator: "Silver Theatre"; "Favorite Story"
    11-16-1904 - Eddie Condon - Goodland, IN - d. 8-4-1973
    guitarist, host: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
    12-30-1927 - Bernie Barrow - NYC - d. 8-4-1993
    actor: "Golden Door"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:30:17 -0400
    From: "khovard@[removed]" <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  1947 Passover broadcast

    Someone is seeking a tape of a 1947 Passover broadcast, "The Bitter Herb," a
    joint project by the American Jewish Committee and New York station WOR

    Can anyone help?

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 23:53:49 -0400
    From: JayHick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Fwd: Radio Shows-1936
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    Can  anyone help Michelle?

    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:51:41 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
    From: "Ms. M" <violetplanet@[removed];
    To: jayhick@[removed]
    Subject: Fw: Radio Shows-1936

    Dear Mr. Hickerson:

    I got your e-mail address from Marvin Bensman

    I am associate producing a documentary on the life and career of Irving
    Thalberg for Turner Classic Movies.  The film will air in Feb. of 2005.

    We are looking for radio announcements of Thalberg's death. On September 14,
    15, or 16 1936.  KFI-KECA had a 15-minute program narrated by John Hallern
    commemorating Thalberg's  life.  Thalberg died on September 14 and the
    funeral was held on the16th
    1936.   Also, KEHE-Hearst Radio was the first to broadcast his death and KNX
    announced it as well.

     Can you direct me towards anyone who might have any of these?

    Michelle Sullivan
    Associate Producer
    Irving Thalberg Documentary
    Mine All Mine, Inc. & TCM
    354 S. La Jolla Ave.
    Los Angeles, CA 90048
    T: 323-938-4063
    F: 323-937-1294

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