Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #16
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 1/16/2005 10:04 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 16
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      otr listening habits                  [ "bcockrum" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
      Listening to ALL the [removed]       [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
      OTR listening habits IPOD             [ "Rick Botti" <rbotti@[removed]; ]
      Re-Otr Listening Habits               [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
      Re: "Dumb" songs                      [ LBohall@[removed] ]
      Major Bowes                           [ JayHick@[removed] ]
      Harry Bartel sighting!                [ "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed]; ]
      Unheard characters                    [ "William Schell" <bschell@[removed] ]
      Listening habits                      [ "William Schell" <bschell@[removed] ]
      1-16 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Really Remley                         [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Jerry Orbach on CBSRMT                [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
      Re: OTR Listening Habits              [ "Planetbiz" <planetbiz@[removed]; ]
      This week in radio history            [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      OTR Listening Habits                  [ BrianWest2@[removed] ]
      Re: Petticoat Junction                [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
      Re: OTR Listening Habits              [ joliver@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:37:53 -0500
    From: "bcockrum" <rmc44@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  otr listening habits

    Seems others on the list have a much stronger constitution than I for
    listening to series. If I happen to get a series, I don't dare listen to
    them several at a time each day until I've heard them all. Even the best
    series (Benny, Suspense, Gunsmoke, Six Shooter) can begin to sound too much
    alike when taken in such heavy doses.

    As for time of day, I used to listen at bedtime, but I dropped off to sleep
    so fast that it would take a week for me to get through a 30-minute show,
    and the constant rewinding and trying to remember the last thing that I
    heard was annoying. Now I listen while driving to work, a short commute of
    only 20 minutes, but I'm generally awake during it all.

    And I listen to it all ... keeping an ear out for the acting credits ... and
    I enjoy the commercials. When I lived in Denver and KOA (then an NBC Radio
    affiliate) carried the CBS Radio Mystery Theater, I made a point of
    recording the entire hour, starting with NBC News on the Hour and then the
    Mystery Theater. Other fans said they were deleting the commercials as they
    recorded the shows. I couldn't understand why ... the commercials reflect a
    bit of history as much as the newscasts.

    My collection of the series has since gone on to someone else, though I have
    copies of a number of the shows, but what struck me then and now was how
    boring those pre-recorded commercials were. It seems like Kellogg's was a
    main supporter of CBSRMT in those early weeks, along with one or two others,
    who ran the same commercials over and over and over ....

    Bob Cockrum

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:04:21 -0500
    From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Listening to ALL the [removed]

    Dixon has commented on listening to entire programs, including station IDs,
    etc.  That's a great idea and may even help us put the shows in their
    historical perspectives.
        Dimension X breaks into a show (Destination Moon) to announce that the
    North Koreans have invaded South Korea.
        One of the CBSRMT shows has a newscast telling of the progress of the
    House impeachment hearings (President Nixon).
        Another CBSRMT program has the daughter of Fulton Lewis, Jr. playing
    Christmas music on the organ as part of his news and commentary.
        CBC Theater has a weather forecast and a full newscast before its "White
    Christmas of Archie Nicotine", plus an ad for RCA Victor's latest audio
    invention.
        And there are many more.  Listen to what comes before as well as what
    comes after the program.  Somebody with the time and inclination could build
    a neat historical radio CD or cassette using these bits of news, weather,
    sports, commercials, and station IDs.

    Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD  57401
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:24:21 -0500
    From: "Rick Botti" <rbotti@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  OTR listening habits IPOD

    I started listening to OTR over K101 FM in San Francisco around 1968, they
    got me hooked on the Lone Ranger and Mystery shows. Then for many years I
    collected cassettes, but by the time I got a round to Reels, everyone else
    had abandoned that format.

    Over the past few years I switched to CD, I tried mp3 format but really
    hated listening to OTR on my computer so I focused on CDs. Now all of that
    changed with the introduction of Apple's IPod! I have the Mini and it holds
    4 gigs of mp3 files. I started by downloading 117 episodes of X Minus One
    and the little thing still had room for 200 hundred more shows, plus regular
    music. So now CDs are a thing of the past, I just store all of the OTR on my
    IPod and listen in the car. While I'm at home, I plug it into a small FM
    transmitter and listen on the radio, but for the full effect, I own a 1936
    radio with a 1946 FM converter, I just place the IPod and transmitter near
    by and listen to OTR the way it was originally broadcast. Rick

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:03 -0500
    From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re-Otr Listening Habits
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    Tim ask readers what are some of their otr listening habits.  Well, I theme
    some of my otr favorite shows.  For example I have a recorded tapes I made
    with
    shows that I titled "Days of The Week."  These are some of the comedies,
    dramas, mystery, variety, and suspense programs that aired on that given day
    of
    the week.  When I get bored with listening to the recordings I made.  I'll
    take
    an individual show like Great Gildersleeve play an episode on Wednesday,
    because it aired on that week night.  I also read daily Otr Digest to see the
    birthdates and otr show dates that a show aired on that day in history.  If I
    have
    that particular show in my collection I listen to it.  This month I listen to
    Inner Sanctum, Screen Director's Playhouse, Meet Corliss Archer, and Hollywood
    Star Time to name a few that debut in the month of January.  The Academy
    Awards Ceremony is less than a month now I prepare for it.  I take 31 of my
    favorite Lux Radio Theatre adaptations of the nominee or winning movie of the
    Lux
    episode and listen to them all one a day until The Academy Awards Presentation
    airs on TV.  I also listening to a few of the Academy Awards ceremonies that
    aired on the radio.  I even hunt and theme my otr collection for holidays.
    With
    President's Inauguration Day coming next week, I will listening to an episode
    of Phil Harris/Alice Faye preparing to attend President Truman's Inaugural
    Ball.  Generally I listen to my otr collection everyday.  I always have a
    stack
    of new episodes I received as gifts or that I bought myself waiting for me to
    play, so I have them to listen to everyday with my themed collection.

                                                                   Trina,

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:55 -0500
    From: LBohall@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: "Dumb" songs
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    In a message dated 1/15/2005 9:39:25 AM Central Standard Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

    I don't know Gary's age but as a child I heard
    "Three  Little Fishies", "The Hut Sut Song", and
    "Mairzy Doats" (and other novelty  songs) on the radio
    when they first came out and I and reacted to them  as
    a kid -- or at least as the kind of kid I was.  My
    personal  reaction then was that I liked them, but not
    necessarily for their  lyrics.  (And whether their
    lyrics are now, sixty years later, judged  to be "dumb"
    or "cute" is not particulary meaningful to  me).

    No one has mentioned "Tell Mommy and Daddy I've got beans in my [removed]" Of
    course, I don't know when that song first came [removed] just at the very
     end of the network radio.

    Larry

    My new novel, Martyr's  Cry: a mystery for hopeless romantics, is  available
    now! Go to _[removed]_
    ([removed])   for more [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:04:48 -0500
    From: JayHick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Major Bowes

    Can anyone Help?

    My parents recently asked me to look something up on the Internet for them
    and my search led me to the The Nostalgia Pages; 2004 FOTR Convention
    Updates.
    This is where I found your e-mail address.  Maybe you can answer my parents'
    question or know someone who can.

    My grandfather (who died in the 1950's) was friends with Major Edward Bowes
    of the radio Amateur Hour fame.  Maj Bowes gave to my grandfather as a gift a
    sword that had belonged to Bowes himself.  My parents are downsizing their
    apartment and are wondering whether it would be possible to sell this sword.

    Are there fans of Major Bowes who might be interested in purchasing such an
    item?  There don't seem to be many Maj Bowes-related items on eBay and I
    wondered if there were much interest in his contribution to classic radio or
    in
    items connected to him?

    Thank you very much!

    Robert Neill
    RKN2@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:19:53 -0500
    From: "Candy Jens" <candyj@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Harry Bartel sighting!

    When we hear someone on the radio, or, in my case, read someone's messages
    in a newsgroup, we probably form a mental picture.   For Christmas we
    received a CD of early Dragnet tv shows -  Harry Bartel played the priest in
    the episode "Big Little Jesus."   Probably because his name sounded a bit
    like Harry VonZell, I pictured Harry entirely differently.  Have any readers
    been surprised when you actually saw a radio personality, compared with your
    impression?  Or did they "measure up" to your imagination?

    By the way, a couple of the shows seemed to be from radio scripts -
    explanatory speeches about what we could plainly see, characters saying
    things like, OK, Frank, what happened here?" to identify the next speaker,
    etc.   Could close my eyes and follow the show fine.  (See, I'm still on
    topic <g>.)

    Candy

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:28:47 -0500
    From: "William Schell" <bschell@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Unheard characters

    I just listened to a Fibber McGee and Molly episode from December 21, 1943
    titled No Christmas Tree. In this program, Molly's Uncle Dennis has quite a
    long speaking part as a Christmas tree lot salesman.   I must admit I was
    disappointed in how uncle Dennis sounded.  As I remember it was a running
    gag about uncle Dennis' drinking yet the character sounded sober with some
    type of accent.  I expected a character more like Willy Lump Lump or Foster
    Brooks.
    Bill

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:28:53 -0500
    From: "William Schell" <bschell@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Listening habits

    I too listen past the end of the program until the very end of the
    recording.  On several tapes I have been lucky enough to hear, "WMAQ,
    Chicago.  It is  9:30 pm Bulova watch time".  And in a few rare incidents, "
    KFI, Los Angeles". Now I feel I have listened to a program right out of the
    past in its entirety.
    Bill

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:29:39 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1-16 births/deaths

    January 16th births

    01-16-1878 - Harry Carey, Sr. - NYC - d. 9-21-1947
    actor: "Lincoln Highway"; "Suspense"
    01-16-1890 - Lloyd Bacon - San Jose, CA - d. 11-15-1955
    film director: "Screen Guild Theatre"; " Screen Director's Playhouse"
    01-16-1894 - John B. Kennedy - Wales, Great Britain - d. 7-22-1961
    commentator: "Collier's Hour"; "RCA Magic Key"
    01-16-1901 - Sid Silvers - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-20-1976
    actor: Beetle "Phil Baker Show"; "Jack Benny Program"
    01-16-1907 - Alexander Knox - Strathroy, Ontario, Canada - d. 4-25-1995
    actor: "Document A/777", BBC
    01-16-1909 - Ethel Merman - Astoria, NY - d. 2-15-1984
    singer" "Ethel Merman Show"; "Home Front Matinee"
    01-16-1910 - Dwight Weist - Palo Alto, CA - d. 7-16-1991
    actor: Mr. District Attorney "Mr. District Attorney"; Stan Burton "Second
    Mrs. Burton"
    01-16-1911 - Jay Hanna "Dizzy" Dean - Lucas, AR - d. 7-17-1974
    baseball broadcaster: (Baseball Hall of Fame) "Game of the Day"
    01-16-1914 - Roger Wagner - Le Puy, France - d. 9-17-1992
    chorale director: "It's Time for Johnny Mercer"; "America Sings"; "This Is
    Our Music"
    01-16-1918 - Buddy Weed - Ossining, NY
    musician: "Old Gold Party Time"; "Lanny Ross Show"
    01-16-1920 - Elliott Reid - NYC
    actor: Biff Bradley "Pepper Young's Family"; "Julian Browning "Against the
    Storm"
    01-16-1924 - Katy Jurado - Guadalajara, Mexico - d. 7-5-2002
    actress: "George Fisher Interviews the Stars"
    01-16-1929 - Popeye the Sailor
    cartoon character: "Popeye"
    01-16-1930 - Rita Lloyd - Brooklyn, NY
    actress: "Let's Pretend"

    January 16th deaths

    02-12-1888 - Victor Kolar - Budapest, Hungary - d. 1-16-1957
    conductor: "Ford Sunday Evening Hour"
    03-25-1867 - Arturo Toscanini - Parma, Italy - d. 1-16-1957
    conductor: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"
    05-03-1907 - Earl Wilson - Rockford, OH - d. 1-16-1987
    columnist: "Earl Wilson's Broadway Column"
    06-26-1913 - Jack Moyles - d. 1-16-1973
    actor: Major Daggett "Fort Laramie"; Rocky Jordan "A Man Named Jordan/Rocky
    Jordan"
    09-22-1875 - Guy Bates Post - Seattle, WA - d. 1-16-1968
    actor: Ulysses S. Grant "Roses and Drums"
    10-06-1908 - Carole Lombard - Fort Wayne, IN - d. 1-16-1942
    actress: "The Circle"; "Hollywood Hotel"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:29:54 -0500
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Really Remley

    Derek Tague writes:

>     So, my question is: was this the "real" Frankie Remley, or was it  Elliott
>     Lewis in character as the "Frankie Remley" from "The Phil  Harris-Alice

    Faye Show"?

    I believe the show in question also shows the  band performing, and you'll
    see that Remley plays his guitar left-handed.   I don't know if Elliott Lewis
    was left-handed, but I'd imagine most actors would  have played it
    right-handed.
     I've seen the real Remley playing in some  other television shows as well,
    so it's most probably the real [removed]  Frankie.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:06:11 -0500
    From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jerry Orbach on CBSRMT
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    Hi Gang -

    When Jerry Orbach died a few weeks ago, someone  mentioned that he was on the
    CBS Radio Mystery Theatre.  Then someone else  mentioned that he was not.
    Then
    someone again mentioned that he was.  This  back-and-forth motion was making
    me
    seasick, so I decided to check my own collection to  answer the question once
    and
    for all.  He WAS on CBSRMT.

    I found a tape that I recorded from WBBM on January  26, 1975 (almost 30
    years ago
    to the day).  Jerry Orbach starred in a program called "The Follower".  Other
     members
    of the cast were  Jackson Beck, Carol Teitel, and Nat Polan.  [removed] Marshall
    was the  host.

    Jerry may have been in other CBSRMT programs as  well, but this one was
    sufficient
    for me to conclude that he definately was active on  the CBS Radio Mystery
    theatre
    in 1975.

    Happy Taping -  Ken Piletic -- Streamwood,  Illinois
    _kenpiletic@[removed]_ (mailto:kenpiletic@[removed])

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:06:49 -0500
    From: "Planetbiz" <planetbiz@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: OTR Listening Habits

    Hi.   First time poster here although I've been a subscriber for a few
    years.

    I originally started listening to OTR by purchasing one of the Radio Spirits
    collections from the Price Club and using it to entertain myself as I drove
    weekly back and forth between Washington DC and central New Jersey for a
    work assignment.

    I enjoyed OTR to such an extent that I built a reasonably large collection
    of MP3s and cassettes.

    I have a decent and small MP3 and listen to OTR every in a variety of
    situations but usually when I'm doing something else and can use OTR to
    enhance that activity:

    - Grocery Shopping
    - any time I have to drive 15 minutes or more
    - golfing (yes, I can put my MP3 in my back pocket and use earphone nubs
    while walking the course and swinging my [removed] can only do this when
    playing 18 by myself on early morning rounds)
    - hitting golf balls at the driving range
    - working out at the health club (weights and cycling)
    - going for walks

    I always keep my MP3 with me and ready to [removed]

    I love [removed] especially the detective [removed] I did listen to the
    near entire run of Gildy.

    Bill

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:07:05 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  This week in radio history

     From Those Were The Days --

    11/16

    1939 - The shrill siren call of I Love a Mystery was heard for the first
    time as the show debuted on NBC's West-Coast outlets.

    1/17

    1938 - Francis X. Bushman was the star of the program, Stepmother, which
    debuted on CBS. The show continued on the air for the next four years.

    1/18

    1929 - New York Daily Mirror columnist Walter Winchell made his debut on
    radio, broadcasting a blend of political commentary and celebrity gossip
    to "Mr. and Mrs. [removed]" His quick-jabbing, penetrating manner
    became his trademark. And so did his fedora hat.

    1937 - CBS introduced listeners to Aunt Jenny's Real Life Stories for
    the first time. A complete story was told in five, 15-minute episodes
    which aired Monday thru Friday each week. Aunt Jenny was played by Edith
    Spencer and later, by Agnes Young. The show continued on radio until
    1956 and was sponsored over the years by Spry shortening and Lux soap.
    Aunt Jenny's whistling canary, for those of you ready to inquire, was
    played by animal imitator, Henry Boyd.

    1/20

    1954 - The National Negro Network was formed on this date. Some 40 radio
    stations were charter members of the network.

    1/21

    1927 - The first opera to be broadcast over a national radio network was
    presented in Chicago, IL. Listeners heard selections from Faust.

    1946 - The Fat Man debuted on ABC. J. Scott Smart, who played the portly
    detective, weighed in at 270 pounds in real life.

    1/22

    1956 - Raymond Burr starred as Captain Lee Quince in the Fort Laramie
    debut on CBS. The program was said to be in "the Gunsmoke tradition."

       Joe

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    Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:07:20 -0500
    From: BrianWest2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Listening Habits

    In a message dated 1/14/05 3:14:58 PM, [removed]@[removed]
    writes:

    << OTR Listening Habits >>

    I usually get to listen to 8-10 shows a day while at work. sometimes I
    canlisten to shows driving to-from work. anything else is a bonus.

    Brian West

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:07:57 -0500
    From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Petticoat Junction
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>     But now I'd have to vote for Betty Jo -- I love red hair!  I wonder how
>     they look now, almost 40 years later? Are any of them still acting?

    As a matter of fact, I understand Linda Kaye Henning is not only still acting
    but has even done some modern day radio drama in Los Angeles.  Anyone know
    more about this? (And, I understand she still looks very attractive. I know
    Meredith MacRae did even up to her death.)

    Dixon

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    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:08:23 -0500
    From: joliver@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: OTR Listening Habits

    Hello OTR-arians

    The Question was asked on how you listen to OTR.

    I have a boom box that plays MP3's and I can tell it to shut down at 30, 60,
    120
    minutes or stay on.  I normally set this to play 60 minutes when I am tring to
    sleep.  Thant way if I do not hear 1 or both (If they are half hour shows) I
    just hit the back button and listen again the next day.  I also listen through
    my computer when I am working on it at home.  I will also have a MP3 cd in my
    walkman radio for when I am doing other things.  Normally have a Reel to Reel
    setup if I want to listen to some show in that room also.

    It was also asked if we listen all of the way of just the acting portion.  I
    personally like to hear the whole thing.

    I had better be shoveling off now, best to all
    The Lurker (Not The Shadow)
    Jess Oliver

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