Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #138
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Date: 4/11/2002 1:59 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 138
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      1947 Recordings                       [ "Tas Richardson" <tasrichardson@spr ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Re: Rosenbergs and the Ranger         [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Episode Dates                         [ Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@ricon ]
      Horatio Hornblower                    [ Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@ricon ]
      FUCHS/GOLD/GREENGLASS                 [ Backus2@[removed] ]
      NBC Symphony Orchestra                [ Bob Fells <rfells@[removed]; ]
      Champagne beer                        [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@delphiau ]
      Re:Beverly Bartell                    [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
      Bev Bartell                           [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
      Re: A&A Music Hall                    [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Jimmy Lydon, and Andy Williams        [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      Cos and Benny                         [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
      Rosenberg/Benny spy connection        [ "jacques boudreault" <jackb67@hotma ]
      The Lone Rosenbergs                   [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
      Red Jell-O                            [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
      WILLIAM CONRAD                        [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
      BEAMER AS TV LONE RANGER/THOM BRAY    [ Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@doityours ]

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:03:55 -0400
    From: "Tas Richardson" <tasrichardson@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  1947 Recordings

    The other day I was looking through a Life magazine from June 9th, 1947, and
    came across a two page advert. for Top Ten Records, distributed in the [removed]
    and Canada by Monitor.  There were six albums shown, by: Amos 'n Andy, Jack
    Benny, Bergen & McCarthy, Burns & Allen, Eddie Cantor, Ed (Archie) Gardner,
    and Fibber McGee & Molly.  It stated that these were special
    [removed] just "taken from broadcasts".  There were "quotes" from
    each of the stars, such as: "De Kingfish say dese heah records are de most
    satisfryin' things with a hole in 'em he evah [removed]'ceptin a doughnut",
    "Well!!! All I can say is that, for works of sheer art, at these prices my
    records are a complete give-away", "Duffy already bought a load of me
    records.  He likes to conk Mrs. Duffy on the noggin with me heaviest laffs",
    [removed]"That reasonably resonant roar of riotous rapture results from
    recording these rousing reminiscences of ridiculous rowdy-dow we
    respectfully hope".
    It went on to say that the albums "were collectors' editions, the first of
    their kind ever produced by such great stars."
    I had not come across such records before, and was wondering just what would
    be on them.  But in today's Digest posting, Elizabeth has partially answered
    my question re the C & G recordings of 1947.  These must be the Apollo
    Records she mentions, though that name does not appear in this advert which
    says, "Monitor - the Most Distinguished Family of Home Appliances".

    Tas, in sunny Alberta, where Spring has finally arrived, along with the
    starlings.

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:05:01 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

      From Those Were The Days --

    1921 - The first live sports event on radio took place this day over
    KDKA. Pittsburgh sports writer, Florent Gibson, gave an account of the
    action in the lightweight boxing match between Johnny Ray and Johnny
    Dundee.

    1943 - Nick Carter, Master Detective debuted on Mutual. The show was
    based on a New York Weekly character who was first introduced in 1886.

      Joe

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:05:11 -0400
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Rosenbergs and the Ranger

      Elizabeth asked --

>     Now, I'll ask one. What connection did the Rosenberg/Fuchs/Greenglass spy
>     operation have to a product that formerly sponsored Jack Benny?

      Uh, they ate Jell-O, drove Chevy's with General Tires on them and
    smoked Luckies?  :)
      Joe (this is fun)

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:05:27 -0400
    From: Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Episode Dates

    Hi,
    I was wondering if anyone could give some episode dates for these titles.
    Bickersons:
    BICKERSONS_51-XX-XX_JOHN'[removed] [removed]
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    BICKERSONS_XX-XX-XX_AMOSBORROWSJOHN'[removed] [removed]
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    Vic and Sade:
    Vic&Sade -- [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade -- [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade -- [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade -- [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - $[removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1939-UU-UU_Mr. Gumpox Offers Sade A [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1939-UU-UU_Rush -- I Hereby Resign [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1939-UU-UU_Sade volunteers Rush for [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1939-UU-UU_Speaking [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1939-UU-UU_Vic's Xmas Card [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1940-UU-UU_Appelrot Shoves Sade [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1940-UU-UU_Hank's $200 [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1940-UU-UU_Milton's Dirt In Fruit [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1940-UU-UU_Mr. Donahue Gets [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1940-UU-UU_Shake Hands With [removed] [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1940-UU-UU_Teaching Cigar Smoking To [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1940-UU-UU_Too Many Faces In The [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1941-04-UU_40 Lbs. of Golf [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1941-04-UU_Shopping Trip-$5 [removed] [removed]
    Vic&Sade - 1941-04-UU_Vic Wins Broad-Brimmed [removed] [removed]
    Vic&SAde - 1941-UU-UU_14 Days in Grovelman,[removed] [removed]
    Vic&SAde - 1941-UU-UU_Landlord's Sneaky [removed] [removed]
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    If anyone has any info about this please contact me.
    Thanks,
    Bryant White

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:05:39 -0400
    From: Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Horatio Hornblower

    Hi,

    It's me again. I was just wondering if anyone had heard of the radio
    program "Horatio Hornblower". I was listening to an episode of "Gunsmoke"
    and I heard the announcer say something about it.

                          Thanks,
                        Bryant White

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:04:51 -0400
    From: Backus2@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  FUCHS/GOLD/GREENGLASS
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    Elizabeth,
       You thought everyone knew about the Lone Ranger episode? I didn't think
    anyone would remember it.
       Anyway, Harry Gold testified that he had been given half a Jello box to
    match up with the other half held by David Greenglass as a form of ID.
    Allegedly Julius Rosenberg arranged this, but I think it was really arranged
    by Don Wilson.

          Dick Backus
          Monongahela, PA
          (Where we still make ingots
          with the housewife in mind)

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:03:33 -0400
    From: Bob Fells <rfells@[removed];
    To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  NBC Symphony Orchestra
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    In response to Don Fischer's inquiry concerning the broadcasts by the
    NBC Symphony Orchestra, there is a newly published book containing a
    wealth of information about each broadcast during the NBCSO's seventeen
    year existence.  The book is called Arturo Toscanini: The NBC Years, by
    Mortimer Frank.  The usual disclaimers apply.

    Bob Fells

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:05:01 -0400
    From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Champagne beer

    Harlan Zinck wrote:

    Originally broadcast in upstate New York, there is a series of programs in a
    Radio Spirits tape set that contain commercials for Champagne (Something)
    Beer. (See, the ads were so bad, I've tried to erase them from my memory.)
    The beer might have been OK, but the catch phrase wasn't: "It's Smooth,"
    pronounced "It's Smeeeuuuuuuthhhhhh" with an upturn inflection at the end.
    Honestly, four times through hearing the guy say "smeeeuuuuuuthhhhh" and I
    wanted to kill somebody - preferably that furshlugginner announcer!

    If I remember right, it was Champagne Velvet [removed]  and I share your
    opinion about doing great harm to the announcer.  Trying to listen to more
    than a couple of shows in a row is almost impossible.

    Christopher B. Holm

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:05:09 -0400
    From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re:Beverly Bartell

    I am pretty sure I speak for the entire Digest "gang" when I express my
    (our) heartfelt condolences and sympathy to our Beloved Harry Bartell

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:05:22 -0400
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bev Bartell

    I was one of the lucky ones in this hobby to have
    spent time with Bev Bartell. She was a true "Lady". In
    my time with her I found a gentle heart, a kind
    spirit, a sharp mind, and a grand sense of humor.
    I had the previliage of spending time with Harry and
    her in their home in Ashland and spent several hours
    with them just talking. When I left I felt like I had
    know them most of my life. Bev fussed over me in a way
    that made me want more.
    If any of you on this digest got to spend any time
    with her you know and understand why I felt compelled
    to write this. Thank you for sharing her with us
    Harry.
    God Bless you and keep you in this time of passing
                Larry

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:07:00 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: A&A Music Hall

    Eric Cooper wrote:

>     Why was neither La Serenata nor The Perfect Song used on the Amos n Andy
>     Musuc Hall. What was the music used for that?

    I believe that was a stock theme taken from a production library, but I
    couldn't tell you the title -- it is similar, though, to a lot of the
    other production-library music CBS was using during the mid-fifties.
    However, the very last Music Hall broadcast, on 11/25/60, included a
    recording of Gaylord Carter's classic theatre-organ version of "The
    Perfect Song" as a farewell to old-time A&A fans.

    A different theme was used for the Music Hall to clearly distinguish the
    program from the weekly A&A sitcom -- the first season of Music Hall and
    the last season of the sitcom overlapped. Given the
    ultra-cheap-and-cheesy production values of Music Hall, I have to think
    that Gosden, perfectionist that he was, was writhing in his chair for
    every recording session -- but the performers were under contract to CBS
    and didn't have much choice.

    I've always believed that Music Hall was a desperate attempt by CBS to
    try and recover as much of their $[removed] million dollar investment in A&A as
    possible -- it was potential TV profits which convinced them to buy the
    A&A property in the first place, but the TV program ran on the network
    for less than half the projected run. This also explains why the A&A TV
    series stayed on the CBS Films syndication list much longer than most of
    its contemporaries -- the network was determined to squeeze every
    possible drop out of its investment before giving up. By the time they
    finally pulled the show in 1966, it was the oldest CBS series still in
    syndication.

    Had the TV series had a more profitable network run, I doubt Music Hall
    would ever have happened. As it is, I find the image of a seventy-year
    old Charlie Correll and a sixty-one-year old Freeman Gosden wheezing thru
    the last years of the Music Hall a profoundly sad and sorry spectacle --
    sort of like NBC trying to burn off Milton Berle's long term contract
    with insulting things like "Jackpot Bowling." They deserved a much more
    dignified farewell from the medium they helped create.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:22:36 -0400
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jimmy Lydon, and Andy Williams

    Two interview will be heard on YUSA this Sunday.  Jimmy Lydon, will be on
    live, and Andy Williams via tape.  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:09:52 -0400
    From: JackBenny@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cos and Benny

    My husband reminded me last night that Cosby was also a spokesperson for
    Jell-O for a while.  This was not the connection that I was inferring in the
    trivia [removed] that directly pertains to OTR.

    --LL

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:10:02 -0400
    From: "jacques boudreault" <jackb67@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Rosenberg/Benny spy connection

    If Jell-O was a sponsor for the Jack Benny program, then I would say that
    this is the association with the Rosenberg spy case of the 1950's.  For more
    information go to:

    [removed]

    Regards,

    Jacques Boudreault
    Ottawa, Canada

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:11:08 -0400
    From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Lone Rosenbergs

       May I have the last word on the Rosenbergs & the Lone Ranger? Here's the
    real connection:
       Julius Rosenberg spied for Russia, which liberated Berlin, which is in
    Germany, where they make BMWs, which, for a short time during the 1980s, was
    commonly referred to as the "Beemer."
       OK, I'll be the first to admit how silly this is.
    Hi-ho Silver!

    D. Tague

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:41:52 -0400
    From: leemunsick@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Red Jell-O

    The comments here about the Rosenbergs and Jell-O brought back a virulent
    childhood memory.

    With Archie, Jack Benny and other radio favorites touting the benefits of
    Jell-O, how could I not become an addict?  Although we often enjoyed it in
    our home at my request, I would nonetheless almost always order Jell-O for
    desert whenever dining out.

    After one such meal, I asked the waitress, "Do you have Jell-O?"  She said,
    "Yes".  "What flavor?" was my clever rejoinder.  The repartee continued, "I
    don't [removed] it's red!"  Orson Welles should have had such lines to
    work with.  "Okay, I said, that narrows it down to three kinds: strawberry,
    raspberry or cherry.  I'll take [removed] lots of whipped cream!"

    When it arrived, fully pumped up for a wonderful sweet treat, I plunged my
    soup spoon in to the hilt (the better to sate my JellOmania).  Up
    spoon.  In mouth.  Taste.  "Oooommm!" I hummed in panic, clapped hand over
    mouth, and ran for the restroom!

    When I returned after having eschewed the quivering mass, I found the
    manager hovering beside the table, simultaneously apologizing to my father
    and chewing out (sigh) the offending waitress.

    Unseen, unsuspected, hiding in my bowl was a villain, lurking below the
    mountain of wonderful whipped cream like the proverbial troll 'neath the
    bucolic brook span.  Truly, hidden by all that white froth (back then, it
    was still real cream) was a sour-not-sweet, orange-not-red, bowlful [removed]
    Tomato Aspic!

    I had never in my short life tasted tomato aspic.  Distinctively un-cloying
    stuff!

    Now jellied aspic may be just fine as a salad treat on a bed of lettuce,
    and probably best reserved for the adult palate.  But it's a singularly
    surprising stand-in for strawberry!

    To this day I never order Jell-O unless it comes to the table nude!  The
    Jell-O, not the server.

    The Moral is:  Watch out for the whipped topping in life!  Who knows what
    evil lurks beneath a facade of snow white, sweet innocence?

    Take that, Hal Stone!  Off topic, but I hope the rest of you enjoy it.

    Mr. Summers, you may, if you will now, call your next witness.

    Lee Munsick

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:01:45 -0400
    From: PURKASZ@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WILLIAM CONRAD

        Peter Kinder waxes rhapsodic about Gunsmoke and the great show it was.
        His request for Mr. Bartell to give him some reminiscences about working
    with Bill Conrad led me to mine.
        I did an episode of Jake and the Fat Man in 1990.
        We shot in Hawaii which was great in itself and as I was being led to my
    dressing room at the studio in the Kaimuki section of Honolulu, I was greeted
    by old friends from previous crews.
        The assistant director came up to me and said, "Mr. Conrad would like to
    say hello when you have a minute."
        I was very excited as I have always been a fan and his days on the radio
    and performances in early movies like, "The Killers" and "The Naked Jungle,"
    which was another irony as he had played the lead on the radio in that epic
    when it was called "Lieningen Vs the Ants," had left me with a great
    admiration.
        I walked with the AD to the craft service area which is basically a table
    on the set laden with refreshments for cast and crew.
        So there he was, back to me, standing in front of a vast array of food
    and drink.
        "Mr. Conrad, this is Michael Gwynne" I heard the AD say.
        Whirling around with a great smile and hefty paunch, "Deeee-lighted to
    meet you. We are going to have some fun" he said. It was then we both noticed
    very quickly that my outstretched right hand ready for a friendly shake, was
    not going to get one [removed] delightful codger had a cigar in one hand
    and a donut in the other!
        First impressions tend to stay with you.
         I proceeded to go through a solid week of working with the man.
        His professionalism was most impressive and the memory I have most of
    that wonderful week in Hawaii is the rather sad fact that solely because of
    that professionalism, I was NOT required to be there for off-camera lines
    which is when your character stands beside the camera and delivers the scene
    while the camera is close on the person you are doing the scene with.
        He was so good at reading that when you had finished your scene and the
    camera went into turnaround, you were dismissed early and could head for the
    beach.
        The TelePrompTer was set up and he would read all his scenes in one take.
    Skills all learned from his radio days.
        Amazing, and they all sounded like Matt Dillon!!!
        We sat around the set between scenes and he regaled me with many tales
    about the radio days but I detected a kind of sadness when Gunsmoke came up
    and he changed the subject to, you guessed it, food!
        At his recommendation I went to a restaurant in an out-of-the-way
    Honolulu location and was very impressed.
        Fond memories of a man I much admired and had the good fortune to work
    with, if briefly.
                         <A HREF="[removed],+Michael+C.">
    Michael C. Gwynne</A>

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:20:44 -0400
    From: Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@[removed];
    To: "Radio  Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  BEAMER AS TV LONE RANGER/THOM BRAY

    In answer to the postng as to why Beamer did not get the role of the Lone
    Ranger on TV, the answer is quite simple: Age.  Beamer was in his 60's when
    the LR debuted on TV, and also the producers felt that they should have an
    established name from Western Films.  Clayton Moore had starred in a number
    of Republic Serials, The Adventures Of Frank and Jesse James with Robert Bice
    as Frank was one of them. So his name as well as his face was established in
    the "B" Westerns of that time, and enough  to have a viewing audience.  As to
    John Hart replacing Moore for one season during a contract dispute, your
    guess is a good as mine!

    * *********************************************************************
    This is for Thom Bray:  You have the same name as a TV/Movie Personality,
    primarily featured in Sci-Fi films,  Are you he?  Both  names are spelled the
    same way.  (Just curious)

    K3vin Michaels

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