Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #210
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Date: 6/22/2004 3:04 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 210
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      The Lane Family Tree                  [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
      RE: Milwaukee/Chicago radio (V2004 #  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      REEgan & RAYgan/Lady Detectives       [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
      Re: SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOM  [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
      Re: Sky Captain                       [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
      Sky Captain                           [ Mark Reesor <mrees@[removed]; ]
      SPERDVAC Convention 2004              [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
      6-23 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:46:41 -0400
    From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Lane Family Tree

    zbob asks:

>     I was just wondering if there was any relation between
>     Lois  Lane  and Margo  Lane  ????

    First of all, it's Margot, with a "t". Secondly, there is no
    significant relationship, other than they spelled their surnames the
    same. (But then, so did Pee Wee King, Jean "Lonesome Gal" King, Sky
    King, and the King Sisters.) And while eight different women portrayed
    Margot Lane at the microphone, they did not include Joan Alexander, the
    sole voice of Lois Lane on radio.

    However, as I point out in my new book, "Private Eyelashes; Radio's
    Lady Detectives", Margot had one big advantage over Lois, since the
    former knew that The Shadow was also Lamont Cranston. In radio's crime
    dramas, such privileged access was rare. After all, (despite their
    suspicions) Lois did not know that Superman was also Clark Kent,
    Mesquite Molly did not know that Steve Adams was Straight Arrow, nor
    did Joan Mason know that Patrolman Dan Garrett was The Blue Beetle.

    Jack French
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:47:08 -0400
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Milwaukee/Chicago radio (V2004 #206)
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    I don't mean to sound critical, because I think we all do the same tning --
    ask a question on a list when answers can be found with a simple Google
    query. The Two-Ton Baker reference is easy, but Paul Gibson wasn't quite as
    popular outside thew Chicago area. I'm writing this to the entire list,
    rather taan answering Ron directly, because many of us who grew up in the
    Chicago area in the forties and fifties, listened to and thoroughly enjoyed
    Baker's work, especially such songs as "I'm a Lonely Little Petunia in an
    Onion Patch," and "Fuzzy-Wuzzy Was a Bear." Obviously, his material was
    geared to kids, but was of such a high quality that he also appealed to many
    adults. He easily made the transition to early television, and, if one does
    a bit of digging around, 45 rpm recordings of his work are still available
    from specialty dealers on the web.

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    [removed]

    Thanx,
    B. Ray
    W9KEE (ex W7KVW)

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    Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:47:17 -0400
    From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  REEgan & RAYgan/Lady Detectives
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    Hi there Gang:

          As per usual, I must commend Max Schmid and his "Golden Age of Radio"
    programme (heard locally here in the NYC area on WBAI-FM) for his on-going
    tribute to Ronald Reagan's brief forays into the world of OTR. However, I have
    noticed that according to the Reagan guest-shots on "Burns & Allen" and the
    "Kraft Music Hall" w/ Bing Crosby, that the prevailing preferred pronunciation
    was REE-gan. My question is, when did the world decide to settle on calling
    him RAY-gan?

         Thank the ether for Jack French! Over the weekend, I encountered a
    relatively new paperback titled HARDBOILED AND HIGH-HEELED: THE WOMAN
    DETECTIVE IN POPULAR CULTURE by Linda Mizejewski courtesy of Routledge
    publications [ISBN: 0415969719]. However, I passed up on purchasing it just by
    virtue of what I couldn't find in this book's index. Yes, friends, "Candy
    Matson" was conspicuously absent, as was an important word under the
    R'[removed]"radio." Apparently, this book was in production at the same time of
    Jack's PRIVATE EYELASHES and it's a shame that radio facet of popular culture
    does not, on the surface, seem to play a part in what is supposed to be a
    scholarly text.

         I did check to see if "Honey West" was represented. She was. However, Ms.
    Mizejewski seems to think Anne Francis's character was the first female TV
    detective.

         Remember those "history of soap operas"  trade paperbacks back in the
    1970s with subtitles like FROM MA PERKINS TO MARY HARTMAN. Nowadays, these
    types of books (excepting Jim Cox's, of course) seem solely to focus on TV
    soaps with a throwaway introductory paragraph which essentially amounts to "Oh
    yeah, soaps started on radio."

         What I'd like to know from my fellow Digesters is if anybody else out
    there has ever been put off from buying (or otherwise acquiring) a book which
    purported to encompass the broad field of "popular culture" but couldn't
    bother to because radio was given the short shrift? I'd hate to think I'm the
    only radio-elitist out here in the ether.

    Shoveling off,

    Derek Tague

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    Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:17:48 -0400
    From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW

    Martin Grams noted:

>     John Olsen reminded me of the up-coming black and white movie SKY CAPTAIN
>     AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW.  This was supposed to be released in late June
>     but I recently heard that it has been pushed ahead to fall.  Does anyone
>     know exactly when this is supposed to come out?
>     (If this question has been answered already, my apologies, I've been away.)

    Current promotional materials at the film's website say "September 17", but
    no release date three months out is ever set in stone.

>     SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW, incidentally, was filmed in black and
>     white and is supposed to be a reproduction of the old cliffhanger serials
>     that were featured in movie theaters years ago. The producer was unsure a
>     few months ago whether they were going to have the title card inserts
>     between each death-defying twenty-minutes or just let it run as one lengthy
>     movie, but it will be interesting to [removed]

    First I've heard of the "title card" scenario, but the picture isn't really
    in B/W; it's in a sort of washed-out but larger-than-life Deco-derived color,
    similar to the sort of world suggested by the work of Alex Ross. This world,
    outside of a few standard props (tables, chairs, counters and the like)
    exists solely in CGI; nearly all of the film was shot on a white-backed
    soundstage with the "world" added in post.

    Amazing how much technical wizardry (and money) has to be employed to
    simulate the effects that the prewar "Poverty Row" serials turned out for
    next to nothing. (Of course, on radio, those "effects" wouldn't cost a dime.
    :)

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    Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:18:41 -0400
    From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Sky Captain

    At 06:18 PM 6/21/2004, you wrote:

>     SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW, incidentally, was filmed in black and
>     white and is supposed to be a reproduction of the old cliffhanger serials
>     that were featured in movie theaters years ago.

    Actually, Martin, SKY CAPTAIN was not filmed in Black & White. It was
    filmed in color then the effects were added in black and white and the
    color restored to give a very dark, but color effect. It is attempting to
    look something like the art deco thirties or what you might have seen at
    the 1939 World's Fair. The process used was all Computer Graphics with the
    actors working in front of blue screens. The CGI was actually written and
    created mostly prior to the filming of the acting. It will be seen in
    theaters on September 17 if the plan holds. That is the advertised date,
    but as I understand it, the film is still being re-edited.

    The film touts big name actors - Gynneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, and Jude
    Law. The graphics really look fantastic and to me very reminiscent more of
    some of the current graphic novels similar to Max Allen Collins "Road to
    Perdition" for example.

    The film plot is reminiscent of Superman versus the Atom Man with Nazi-like
    scientists, mysterious women (Ala The Spider Lady) and characters with
    comic style names - Polly Perkins, Chronicle reporter, Sky Captain, Frankie
    Cook (a woman) and Dex, the nerdy fellow. And in terms of video of the
    Fleischer Brothers Superman cartoons.

    Odds are, if the film is reasonably good, it will still be a moderate
    success but the process is so much CGI that the film is getting a lot of
    buzz among film aficionados.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:03:15 -0400
    From: Mark Reesor <mrees@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sky Captain

    Martin Grams wondered about the release date of Sky Captain - it's in
    theatres Sept. 17.

    Mark Reesor

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    Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:05:35 -0400
    From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  SPERDVAC Convention 2004

    Hello, fellow OTR fans.

    At long last, I've joined you in our passion for RADIO during the Golden
    Age.
    Here I am on the Digest, and my first message to you is the following
    up-date on the SPERDVAC Convention 2004:

    CONVENTION 2004 PLANS

    SPERDVAC's Convention 2004 plans are moving forward as you read this.  As
    you may know, the Society to Preserve & Encourage Radio Drama, Variety And
    Comedy is celebrating its 30th year of preserving America's radio history
    this year.  We are hosting our  Old-Time Radio Convention 2004 this November
    12, 13 & 14 at the Hacienda Hotel, 525 N. Sepulveda [removed] El Segundo,
    California near LAX.  It is our way of thanking and honoring the people who
    made radio broadcasting during the "Golden Age" so wonderful and
    entertaining. As in our past 19 conventions, we're inviting all our Honorary
    Members to attend the banquets as our guests and many of them will
    participate in re-creations of OTR shows and on panels. We're inviting
    SPERDVAC's founders to join us as well as all our former presidents. There
    will be at least 7 panels, 5 re-creations, 2 banquets and a Sunday brunch.
    As always, we'll have a free-admission dealers' room where people can sell
    their OTR books, tapes, CDs & memorabilia.

    Following is the tentative schedule:
    Friday, November 12:
       1:00 to 2:00 pm   Panel-"OTR club round table"
       2:15 to 3:15 pm   Panel- (to be announced)
       3:30 to 5:00 pm   Singers/Music Panel with Walden Hughes
       6:30 to 9:00 pm   Banquet and Re-creations:
                         1. MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER "Five Miles Down"
                         with Harlan Ellison and others, directed by
                         Anthony Tollin.
                         2. (to be announced)

    Saturday, November 13:
       9:00 to 10:15am   Book Panel with Jim Harmon & others
      10:30 to 12 noon   Panel-"ABC Radio in Hollywood"
       1:00 to 2:00 pm   New Frequency-(old & new re-creations)
       2:00 to 3:15 pm   Panel-"Bob Hope, Thanks for the Memories"
       3:30 to 5:00 pm   Singers/Music Panel  (Walden Hughes)
       6:30 to 9:00 pm   Banquet and Re-creations:
    1.	A 30 Minutes To Curtain re-creation(to be
    announced), directed by Barbara Watkins.
                         [removed] FRED ALLEN SHOW with Harold Gould, Alan
                         Young, Herb Ellis, Janet Waldo, Bea Wain and
                         others, directed by Gregg Oppenheimer.

    And, topping off our 30th Anniversary Convention on Sunday, November 14:
       9:00 to 11:30 am  Brunch with Art Linkletter

    Many more of our friends are coming aboard to participate in the
    Convention and their names will be announced as soon as confirmed.
    Again this year, we'll have a printed program for attendees to use
    in guiding them through the convention.  We'll have space for ads,
    congratulations, messages, etc. in the program. For rates, contact
    me at address below.  For Dealers' Room information, contact:
    Glenn Mueller, 18716 East Aguiro St., Rowland Heights,CA 91748, or
    Email: DurangoKid@[removed]
    Convention registration forms will be available at our website:
    [removed] or by calling (Toll-Free) 1(877)251-5771.
    To volunteer to help at the convention or for more information, please
    contact me personally at: Bobb Lynes, Box 628, South Pasadena, CA 91031 or
    email me at: iairotr@[removed]
    See you all at the convention!

    OTR still lives!

    Bobb

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    Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:58:15 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  6-23 births/deaths

    June 23rd births

    06-23-1876 - Irvin S. Cobb - Paducah, NY - d. 3-10-1944
    humorist: "Gulf Show"; "Paducah Plantation"
    06-23-1895 - Pick Malone - nr. Dallas, TX - d. 1-22-1962
    comedian:"Show Boat"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"
    06-23-1908 - Erik Barnouw - The Netherlands - d. 7-19-2001
    radio historian/author: "A Tower of Babel"; "The Golden Web"; "The Image
    Empire"
    06-23-1910 - Edward P. Morgan - Walla Walla, WA - d. 1-27-1993
    newscaster: "News and Commentary"
    06-23-1912 - John Milton Kennedy - Farrell, PA
    announcer: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Tidbit Revue"
    06-23-1917 - Norman Rose - Philadelphia, PA
    narrator: "Dimension X"
    06-23-1929 - June Carter Cash - Maces Spring, VA - d. 5-15-2003
    singer: "Grand Ole Opry"

    June 23rd deaths

    05-17-1911 - Maureen O'Sullivan - Boyle, Ireland - d. 6-23-1998
    actress: "Dreft Star Playhouse"; "Family Theatre"
    06-21-1880 - Mary Young - d. 6-23-1971
    actress: Lily "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"
    07-07-1907 - Elton Britt - Marshall, AR - d. 6-23-1972
    singer: "Tennessee Jed"
    08-28-1891 - Stanley Andrews - Chicago, IL - d. 6-23-1969
    actor: Daddy Warbucks "Little Orphan Annie"
    09-26-1893 - Fay Holden - Birmingham, England - d. 6-23-1973
    actress: Mrs. Hardy "The Hardy Family"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    For a complete list:
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