Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #262
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 9/27/2006 5:11 PM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 262
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  ADMINISTRIVIA: Signature Tempest      [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
  Speaking of [removed]                [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
  9-27 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Re: Dragnet Radio to TV               [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
  Sam Spade Copyright Case              [ William Harker <wharker@[removed] ]
  Biography web sit                     [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
  Greenberg on third                    [ "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  a gold mine                           [ Pete <pappleyard_ca@[removed]; ]
  Captain Midnight                      [ Sammy Jones <sjones69@[removed] ]
  "Golden Age of Radio"                 [ "Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
  Korla Pandit at KGO                   [ "origami" <origami@[removed]; ]
  XM radio vs. MP3                      [ "origami" <origami@[removed]; ]
  Tokyo Rose                            [ JWIDNER@[removed] ]

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:07:07 -0400
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  ADMINISTRIVIA: Signature Tempest

Folks;

   Please forgive the interruption, but there's an issue we need to quickly
deal with before things get out-of-hand.

   Recently a poster's signature has generated an inordinate amount of
controversity off-list. In email, a "signature" is the block of text
automatically appended to an outgoing email message, preceeded by two dashes,
a space, and a hard return - think of it as the equivalent of a "bumper
sticker" in the real world. I tend not to waste the bandwidth with them, but
some people like to use them. [removed]

   This particular signature violated that "-- " rule so the automated
software didn't catch it, and I missed it as it went through because of the
bona fides of the poster (it was too long to be included in the Digest - we
expect no more than two or three lines of tasteful text), so if you need to
blame someone, blame me for not noticing the poster violated the signature
length guidelines. But there's a larger issue at work here that frankly has
me [removed]

   I understand that we tend to be more wildly polarized in our political
views than at any other time in history, and I can routinely keep _postings_
of contemporary political issues out of the Digest. But I can not reasonably
be expected to police signature files other than for [removed] we have an
upcoming mid-term election in the United States that could result in
length-appropriate signatures like, "Vote for Smith" that is bound to annoy
and anger supporters of his opponent, Jones.

   So we need to face this issue head-on NOW. As I see it, there are but two
choices:

   1) All of us who post use some self-restraint in our signature files; if
you have strong political views, feel free to use any signature you want in
private email, but eliminate it or use an apolitial signature for postings to
the Digest. That also requires _readers_ to have a little understanding and
patience should one you don't agree with get through - I try to make sure the
conversations here are on-topic, but like I said, I'm not the bumper-sticker
police. We need to accept that outside the hobby, we all have our own
interests and views, and concentrate on what brings us _together_ - our love
for OTR.

   2) I eliminate signatures _entirely_ from postings to the Digest - while I
must occasionally be the arbitor of what constitutes "on-topic" postings, I
am not going to be placed in the untenable position of deciding which
signatures are or are not political. If they go, they ALL go, draconian as
that may be - the software will automatically strip off those signatures that
are properly preceeded by the required "-- " line, and I will manually reject
ANY posting with a signature that does not include that delimiter (frankly,
any email software that does not add it is broken and should be repaired or
replaced anyway). Again, some WILL get through ("falibility" is my middle
name), so readers are again going to need to exercise a little patience.

   I would appreciate your opinion of what should be done about this issue.
Please send it to feedback@[removed] - I promise to read every message
sent there, even though I will not be responding to them - considering the
level of private mail this has already generated, I'm sure I won't have the
time to respond to all, but I promise to read every email.

   Thanks, and now back to Old-Time [removed]

         Charlie

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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:30:18 -0400
From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Speaking of [removed]

...this past weekend I was wandering around an antiques store and found a
pile of sheet music.  Flipping through the titles, I found what to me is a
real  treasure because I am into old time radio re-creations and am always
on the lookout for the theme music from shows.   It was the sheet music for
both The Dragnet theme (called Danger Ahead) and the Dragnet March.  I can't
imagine there was ever a big demand for that music to be published, but I'm
not complaining.  A steal at $[removed]!

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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:12:26 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  9-27 births/deaths

September 27th births

09-27-1885 - Harry Blackstone - Chicago, IL - d. 11-16-1965
magician: "Harry Blackstone, the Magic Detective" based on him.
09-27-1887 - Pat "Uncle Ezra" Barrett - Holden, MO - d. 3-25-1959
actor: "National Barn Dance"; Uncle Ezra "Uncle Ezra"
09-27-1893 - Phil Cook - Coldwater, MI - d. 9-18-1958
comedian: "Radio Chief"; "Quaker Oats Man"; "Morning Almanac"
09-27-1898 - Vincent Youmans - NYC - d. 4-5-1946
composer: "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
09-27-1913 - Hugh Rowlands - Racine, WI - d. 1-5-1978
actor: Trigger Brett "Island Venture"; Jimmy "Tom Mix"
09-27-1915 - Cy Howard - Wisconsin - d. 4-29-1993
creator, writer, producer: "Life with Luigi"; "My Friend Irma";
"Milton Berle Show"
09-27-1915 - Frank Gerstle - d. 2-23-1970
actor: "Escape"; "NBC University Theatre"; "Six Shooter"; "Gunsmoke"
09-27-1917 - James Andelin - Provo, UT
actor: "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"; Og, Son of Fire"; "Houseboat Hannah"
09-27-1917 - William Orr - d. 12-25-2002
actor: "Hollywood Theatre Group"
09-27-1918 - James McCallion - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 7-11-1991
actor: Stephen Dallas "Stella Dallas"; Sydney Lawrence "One Man's
Family"
09-27-1920 - Jayne Meadows - Wu Chang, China
actor: "Hollywood Star Preview"
09-27-1920 - William Conrad - Louisville, KY - d. 2-11-1994
actor: Matt Dillon "Gunsmoke"; Louis Dumont "Jason and His Golden
Fleece"
09-27-1921 - Carol Thurston - Forsyth, MT - d. 12-31-1969
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-27-1923 - Mary McCarthy - Winfield, KS - d. 4-3-1980
actor: "MGM Musical Comey Theatre"
09-27-1934 - Claude Jarman, Jr. - Nashville, TN
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-27-1934 - DickSchaap - NYC - d. 12-21-2001
sportscaster: "Sports Answer Man: "Sports Week"

September 27th deaths

01-03-1900 - Cecil Underwood - Vienna, MO - d. 9-27-1976
producer, director: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Great Gildersleeve"
01-09-1898 - Gracie Fields - Rochdale, Lancashire, England - d.
9-27-1979
comedienne, singer: "Gracie Fields Victory Show"; "Gracie Fields Show"
01-12-1896 - Harry Reser - Piqua, OH - d. 9-27-1965
bandleader: "Cliquot Club Eskimos"
01-13-1914 - Stanley Waxman - Ohio - d. 9-27-1998
actor: "Escape"; "Man Called X"; "Tell It Again"; "Presenting Charles
Boyer"
03-06-1885 - Ring Lardner - Niles, MI - d. 9-27-1933
writer: "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "NBC Presents: Short Story"
05-21-1904 - Robert Montgomery - Beacon, NY - d. 9-27-1981
actor: "Doctor Fights"; "Suspense"; "This Is War"
05-24-1907 - Bill Bouchey - Clare, MI - d. 9-27-1977
actor: Red Albright/Captain Midnight "Captain Midnight"
06-26-1914 - Babe Didrikson Zaharias - Port Arthur, TX - d. 9-27-1956
all-around athlete: "Babe Didrikson Zaharia Sports Show"
07-29-1905 - Clara Bow - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-27-1965
actor: (The It Girl) "Kay Parker in Hollywood"
08-04-1904 - Phil Clark - London, England - d. 9-27-1985
actor: Mr. Keen "Mr. Keen, Tracer of Lost Persosn"
08-11-1902 - Lloyd Nolan - San Francisco, CA - d. 9-27-1985
actor: Johnny Strange "Results Inc."; Martin Kane "Martin Kane,
Private Eye"
08-28-1925 - Donald O'Connor - Chicago, IL - d. 9-27-2003
comedian, actor: "Ginny Simms Show"; "Philip Morris Playhouse";
"Suspense"
10-04-1909 - James Webb - Denver, CA - d. 9-27-1974
screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:12:01 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:23:07 -0400
From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Dragnet Radio to TV

  Was watching a DVD of early Dragnet TV shows and it did include the 22
Rifle episode about a boy accidentally shooting his friend right before
Christmas. Herb Ellis played Joe Friday's partner in this episode.
  To me the radio version was a little better.
  Andrew Godfrey

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:09:33 -0400
From: William Harker <wharker@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sam Spade Copyright Case

For those of you interested in copyright matters involving OTR, I
might suggest a visit to Lilly Library (essentially, the rare book
and manuscript library) at the Indiana University in Bloomington.  I
was there last Friday.

The Anthony Boucher Collection had a small, but interesting, file
concerning Boucher's role as an expert witness for the defense
(including Hammett) in that case.  Included in the file were the
legal briefs supplied by both sides at the trial court level.  Also
an outline of Boucher's proposed testimony, a couple of fee schedules
he charged the defense, exchanges of letters discussing his testimony
and the ultimate outcome, as well as related newspaper articles.

IU, in general, has a nice little Hammett collection in both the
Wells (main) library and Lilly.  I was able to obtain several Hammett
stories that had proven elusive over the years.

Bill Harker

Marlowe is a man "in a lonely street, in lonely rooms, puzzled but
never quite defeated."
                                                                 Raymond
Chandler, 1959

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:45:55 -0400
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Biography web sit

Yesterday I was a bit over excited about the Biography sit. It is a nice
sit, but not good for OTR information. Tried to lookup some OTR stars and
didn't find what I was looking for. Sorry about that. Frank McGurn

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:04:07 -0400
From: "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest (E-mail)" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Greenberg on third

Hi all,

One of our younger customers wrote to us the other day asking for an
explanation of a recurring joke on Jack Benny.  Unfortunately, I
couldn't help.  The running joke is about "Grenneberg being on third."
Could anybody shed some light on this for us?

Karen Lerner
Radio Spirits

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:05:34 -0400
From: Pete <pappleyard_ca@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  a gold mine

I am sure that almost everyone knows of this site but
just in case you are one that doesn't try
[removed]
Now that is a gold mine loaded with just about
anything you might want re OTR, Big Band Music,
Contemporary Music etc and you can get it live as it
is [removed] night I managed to get a Suspense
show that I didn't have in my collection.

Personally Denny Farrell is the top of the heap when
it comes to Big Band Music and info on the bands.

This past Sunday ( and it is still available ) Denny
did a 2 hour show on The Sun Valley Swing'n Dixie Jazz
Jamboree that is taking place Oct 18th - 22nd,
[removed] a show, my feet are still tapping.
More info can be found at   [removed]
Dont miss it.
Peter  Appleyard

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:06:03 -0400
From: Sammy Jones <sjones69@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Captain Midnight

wanna thank Stephen A Kallis and Sammy Jones for the corrections on the
date of Captain Midnight.

No problem.  While I can't claim to be any kind of an expert on Captain
Midnight like Stephan A. Kallis, the true start date of the original
syndicated program bugged me for so long that I finally decided to do
something about it.

Most dealers and collectors list Oct 17, 1938 as the original start date, but
I thought that to be in error because the earliest run of consecutive
episodes begins on Oct 17, 1939--exactly one year later.  It was just too
much of a coincidence to believe.  So I went back and checked the Chicago
Tribune's radio listings from October 1938, and found a nice piece commenting
on the beginning of Captain Midnight.  The first broadcast, I believe, was
Oct 10, 1939.  Exactly one week before the reported beginning.  I don't have
my copies of the Tribune handy at the moment, but I am 99 % sure that Oct 10,
1938 is correct.

Another thing--it is often reported that Captain Midnight began as a local
program from WGN, or was syndicated BY WGN.  I don't believe either is the
case.  It was definitely a syndicated program that was heard over WGN, and
many other stations as well.  It very probably was recorded in Chicago, but
as to WGN's involvement in the production of the series, I think that's just
bunk.  If scans of the original ET labels existed, it would help settle the
matter once and for all.

It is important to remember that the surviving recordings of the syndicated
(Skelly) series are not "airchecks," or even "linechecks"--no mention of
station or network appears in them.  They are are pre-recorded programs
intended for playback on individual stations.

Sammy Jones

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:06:15 -0400
From: "Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Golden Age of Radio"

The latest "Golden Age of Radio" programs with Dick Bertel
and Ed Corcoran, and "A One Night Stand with the Big Bands"
with Arnold Dean can be heard at [removed].

Each week we feature three complete shows in MP3 format
for your listening pleasure or for downloading; two "Golden
Age of Radios" and one "One Night Stand." We present new
shows every week or so. The current three programs will be
available on line at least until the morning of October 3, 2006.

NOTE: For the last few weeks we have featured only "The
Golden Age of Radio" programs.

Next week we will resume our series "A One Night Stand
with the Big Bands" shows in the order in which they were
originally broadcast.

Program 85 - Glenn Miller - Part 1

Glenn Miller used radio to build the most popular band in
America, through late night band remotes and eventually
"Moonlight Serenade" sponsored by Chesterfield. The
story of those radio broadcasts is told through the voices
of Rudy Vallee, Teddy Wilson, Gene Krupa, Duke Ellington,
Bob Eberly, Ray Eberle, Artie Shaw, Ray McKinley, and
Paula Kelly.

This program was not part of the original "Golden Age of
Radio" series. (Based on interviews conducted by Dick
Bertel from 1965 to 1971)

Program 86 - Glenn Miller, Part 2

Glenn Miller - the War Years. Miller's military service
as the leader of the famous Air Force Band is recounted
by Ray Eberle, Paula Kelly and Ray McKinley and
illustrated by his many radio broadcasts of that period,
including "I Sustain the Wings".   (This program never
aired on WTIC - it is reconstructed based on interviews
conducted by Dick Bertel in 1971)

Program 87 - Lowell Thomas, Jack Benny, Ann Elstner

(This program was never on the air at WTIC - it is
reconstructed based on interviews conducted by Dick
Bertel and Ed Corcoran)

Lowell Thomas was a man ahead of his time: the first
roving newscaster, a film maker through the 1920s, a
radio presenter in the 1930s, an adventurer who wrote
more than 50 books, he was heralded as the father of
'Cinerama.'

Jack Benny was among the most beloved American
entertainers of the 20th century. He brought a relationship-
oriented, humorously vain persona honed in vaudeville,
radio, and film to television in 1950, starring in his own
television series from that year until 1965. The comedian
grew up in Waukegan and went on the vaudeville stage
in his early teens playing the violin. The instrument quickly
turned into a mere prop, and his lack of musicianship
became one of the staples of his act. Benny's first major
success was on the radio. He starred in a regular radio
program from 1932 to 1955; Benny's radio program spent
most of its run on NBC. In 1948 he was lured to CBS,
where he stayed through the remainder of his radio career
and most of his television years.

Based on the novels by Olive Higgins Prouty (1882-1974),
Stella Dallas was a working-class heroine that was suddenly
rich after marrying Stephen Dallas; her strong love for her
daughter Laurel is the primary theme of the series.  Stella
hung out on NBC until 1955 with Anne Elstner in the title
role for the entire run.

Beginning next week, we'll resume rebroadcasts of "A One
Night Stand with the Big Bands" with Arnold Dean. The
programs will be presented in the order of broadcast.

In the 1970's WTIC decided that there was a market in
the evening for long-form shows that could be packaged
and sold to sponsors. Two of those shows were "The
Golden Age of Radio" and "A One Night Stand with the
Big Bands."

Dick Bertel had interviewed radio collector-historian
Ed Corcoran several times on his radio and TV shows,
and thought a regular monthly show featuring interviews
with actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians
from radio's early days might be interesting. "The Golden
Age of Radio" was first broadcast in April, 1970; Ed was
Dick's co-host. It lasted seven years. "The Golden Age
of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights on Walden
Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

Arnold Dean began his love affair with the big band
era in his pre-teen years and his decision to study
the clarinet was inspired by the style of Artie Shaw.
When he joined WTIC in 1965 he hosted a daily program
of big band music. In 1971, encouraged by the success
of his daily program and "The Golden Age of Radio"
series, he began monthly shows featuring interviews
with the band leaders, sidemen, agents, jazz reporters,
etc. who made major contributions to one of the great
eras of music history.

Bob Scherago
Webmaster

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:06:48 -0400
From: "origami" <origami@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Korla Pandit at KGO

I remembered that my friend had worked for KGO many years
ago and asked her if she remembered Korla Pandit.  Here is
her reply:
==================================================
KORLA PANDIT??????

Of course, I remember him.  In fact I was on his
show a couple of times.  Or rather, my hands were
on his show.  They needed some one to hold and
slightly move a fan and since I was the only one
around, I was the holder and waver.  I forget
what monster job I had the other times but I
think it was again with just my hands.

He was every bit as handsome in person as he was
on the screen.  And a super nice person.

I think I turned a page of music one time.
===================================================

She went on to say that one day he was gone, and she always
wondered what had happened to him.

John Warmington

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:07:06 -0400
From: "origami" <origami@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  XM radio vs. MP3

I have been meaning to write regarding my experience with XM
radio, hoping it might be of use to some.

I subscribed to XM radio in order to have OTR when in the
car.  I was greatly disappointed.  The channel was full of
commercials and promos that were, in my opinion, quite
unpleasant.

So I discontinued my subscription and installed an MP3
player in the car.  I love it-- Whenever I leave the car and
then get back in, the program continues from where it left
off.

I know that many people like XM for other reasons, and that
is fine, but I have no interest in the news, talk, music and
comedy channels.

John

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:07:25 -0400
From: JWIDNER@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tokyo Rose

There has been some interest in Iva Toguri D'Aquino on this digest given
her involvement (though not willingly) in propaganda broadcasting from
Japan during WW II. I believe Jack French was working on a more expanded
write-up of her fight after her return to the [removed] - being tagged a
traitor, jailed for a while, then eventually clearing her name.

All of this brings me to mention that she has died at the age of 90 on
September 26th. The obituary is in the [removed] Times today.

Jim Widner

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