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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2009 : Issue 234
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Watson wife No 1 / 2              [ zbob@[removed] ]
  12-7 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  "Cinnamon Bear": Why Is 3:40 Wasted   [ "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed]; ]
  Question about radio transcription    [ Larry Jordan <midtod@[removed] ]
  Pearl Harbor Day Broadcasts           [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  Time travel                           [ Lakedm@[removed] ]
  CBS blacklist and Himan Brown         [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Captain Midnight 1942 Decoder         [ Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed]; ]
  12-8 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  OTR Question                          [ wallyely1@[removed] ]
  Re: Time Travel                       [ "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed]; ]
  The Winter Nostalgia Digest           [ Steve Darnall <fvpress@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:11 -0500
From: zbob@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Watson wife   No 1 / 2
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Subject: Re: Watson wife No 1. and  2:     A Holmes-enthusiast friend of mine
had this response to the question of Watson' wives:::
o;?   Well my elementary research says that Watson's first wife was Mary
Morstan ("Sign of the four"); and his second one was Violet Hunter ("Adventure
of the Copper Beeches").  Some radio shows used different names for wife two.
He is right that Conan Doyle was a little sloppy with his fact checking.

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:16 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  12-7 births/deaths

December 7th births

12-07-1879 - Rudolf Friml - Prague, Bohemia - d. 11-12-1972
operetta composer: "Railroad Hour"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
12-07-1888 - Heywood Broun - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-18-1939
theatre critic: "Author, Author"; "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
12-07-1892 - Fay Bainter - Los Angeles, CA,  - d. 4-16-1968
actor: "Nobody's Children"; "Cavalcade of America"
12-07-1901 - Jack Taylor - Summershade, KY - d. 8-4-1962
singer: (Prairie Ramblers) "Smile-a-While"
12-07-1904 - Bob Brown - NYC - d. 2-14-1988
announcer: "Vic and Sade"; "Quicksilver"; "This Amazing America"
12-07-1905 - Charles Magnante - d. 12-30-1986
accordionist: "Major Bowes Capitol Family"; "Singin' Sam"; "Tony and
Gus"
12-07-1905 - Leonard Goldenson - Scottsdale, PA - d. 12-27-1999
owner of the ABC network
12-07-1906 - Fred Stewart - Atlanta, GA - d. 12-5-1970
actor: "The Columbia Workshop"
12-07-1908 - Beatrice Churchill - d. 12-13-2006
actor: Betty Drake "Betty and Bob"
12-07-1909 - Arch Oboler - Chicago, IL - d. 3-19-1987
writer: 'Lights Out"; "Adam and Eve skit on Bergen/McCarthy"
12-07-1910 - Charles Baltin - d. 11-9-1992
newscaster: WHOM Jersey City, New Jersey
12-07-1910 - Rod Cameron - Calgary, Alberta, Canada - d. 12-21-1983
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
12-07-1912 - Louis Prima - New Orleans,LA - d. 8-24-1978
jazz trumpeter: "You Can't Have Everything"; "Songs by Sinatra"; "The
Navy Swings"
12-07-1915 - Eli Wallach - Brooklyn, NY
actor: "Eternal Light"
12-07-1916 - Dorothea Brooking - Buckinghamshire, England - d. 3-23-1999
announcer for the BBC
12-07-1918 - Hurd Hatfield - NYC - d. 12-25-1998
actor: "Best Plays"; "Crime Does Not Pay"
12-07-1918 - Randy Atcher - d. 10-9-2002
disk jockey: "Old Kentucky Barn Dance"
12-07-1920 - Frances Gifford - Long Beach, CA - d. 1-22-1994
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-07-1922 - Don Maddox - Boaz, AL
"The Maddox Brothers and Rose"
12-07-1939 - Nomi Mitty - NYC - d. 8-24-1994
actor: "The Goldbergs"

December 7th deaths

01-12-1916 - Jay McShann - Muskogee, OK - d. 12-7-2006
jazz pianist and bandleader: "Jubilee"; "Jazz Alive"
02-27-1910 - Joan Bennett - Palisades, NJ - d. 12-7-1990
actor: "Ford Theatre"; "MGM Theatre of the Air"; "Skippy Hollywood
Theatre"
03-01-1921 - Kenny Baker - Yorkshire, England - d. 12-7-1999
trumpeter: "Let's Settle for Music"
03-06-1904 - Hugh Williams - Bexhill-on-Sea, England - d. 12-7-1969
actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
03-12-1914 - Loretta Poynton - Jackson, MI - d. 12-7-1991
actor: Betty Fairfield "Jack Armstrong"; Ruth Morrow "Flying Time"
03-25-1919 - Jeanne Cagney - NYC - d. 12-7-1984
actor: (Sister of James Cagney) "Movietone Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"
04-01-1884 - Laurette Taylor - NYC - d. 12-7-1946
actor: "The Everedy Hour"
04-17-1897 - Thornton Wilder - Madison, WI - d. 12-7-1975
writer: "This Is My Best"
06-07-1891 - Alois Havrilla - Pressov, Hungary - d. 12-7-1952
announcer: "Campbell Soup Orchestra"; "Jack Benny Program"
06-21-1925 - Desmond Briscoe - Birkenhead, England - d. 12-7-2006
sound technician and effects cooridinator for the BBC Radio
06-23-1914 - Nat Hiken - Chicago, IL - d. 12-7-1968
creator, director, writer: "Magnificent Montague"; "Texaco Star Theatre"
07-01-1913 - Dolph Nelson - d. 12-7-1981
actor, director: "Captain Midnight"; "Art Linkletter's House Party"
07-04-1883 - Rube Goldberg - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-7-1970
cartoonist: "Famous Comic Artists"; "The Shell Show"; "Biography in
Sound"
07-12-1895 - Kirsten Flagstad - Hamar, Norway - d. 12-7-1962
opera singer: "General Motors Concerts"; "Metropolitan Opera"
08-07-1904 - Dr. Ralph Bunche - Detroit, MI - d. 12-7-1971
activist: "The Big Show"
09-27-1918 - Barclay Allen - d. 12-7-1966
pianist/composer: "Freddy Martin, His Singing Saxophone and His
Orchestra"
09-29-1910 - Bill Boyd - Fannin County, Texas - d. 12-7-1977
singer: (Cowboy Ramblers) WRR Dallas, Texas
09-30-1911 - Jerry Scoggins - Mount Pleasant, TX - d. 12-7-2004
singer: (Member of the Cass County Boys) "Gene Autry's Melody Ranch"
10-17-1910 - George W. Briggs, Jr. - Taunton, MA - d. 12-7-1994
staff pianist and arranger for WBZ radio
12-15-1901 - Gail Bonney - Columbus, OH - d. 12-7-1984
actor: "Family Theatre"; "Joan Davis Time"; "NBC University Theatre"

Ron

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:34 -0500
From: "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed];
To: "[The Old-Time Radio Mailing List]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Cinnamon Bear": Why Is 3:40 Wasted Each Episode
 In Instrumental  Music!?!

I've been on vacation for over two weeks in California, and have just gotten
back a few days ago. And I've FINALLY gotten around -- very much belatedly!
-- to listening to "The Cinnamon Bear".

I have one question.

Why the lengthy 1:50 instrumental music at the start and end of each episode?

There's not even any voiceover, giving things like the actors' names, or
such-like (such as you'd hear at the end of a show on The Mercury Theatre,
for example). The music may be pretty, but so far as I can determine, it's
pointless, wasting almost four minutes (3:40 seconds, to be exact) of each
episode -- time that could be well-spent on other things!

It must really have driven the poor kidlets CRAZY when it actually aired, as
they waited impatiently for the show to actually [removed] AND THEN, when the
episode finally ended, the kids would NEVER hear the all of the ending music,
because their parents would be sure change the station, to hear some other
show, LONG before that music ended!

Has anyone any explanation of this really very strange usage of valuable air
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:00:48 -0500
From: Larry Jordan <midtod@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Question about radio transcription
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I am wondering if some member of the OTR community could give me some
help? After my dear Mother passed away at the age of 88 in October of
last year, I discovered in one of her foot lockers a couple of
transcription disks (acetates?), carefully tucked away. I recalled
her telling me that she had sung a couple of religious songs with a
male friend of hers at a special church concert that was broadcast on
the radio in central Iowa (possibly WHO). I'm guessing that this was
in the late 1930s or early '40s. The labels on the two disks suggest
that these are ETs of this radio show.

I am eager to have someone transfer the audio from disk to CD, but
don't know anybody here in Iowa who could handle this task. Although
I have a friend in Arizona who specializes in dubbing from old ETs, I
am not going to send these heavy disks to him and risk having them
damaged in transit.

I've looked in the phone book and called a few places around central
Iowa, but in our digital age none of the people who answered the
phones at any of these so-called audio/video specialty shops had a
clue to what I was even talking about. I need somebody who can
identify what kind of disks these are, and knows precisely what type
of needle needs to be used on disks from that era to prevent damaging
them.

I suspect I need to find some hobbyist or OTR fan who is accustomed
to handling these fragile disks, in which case I would then hand-
carry them to him (or her) and wait while they were being dubbed.
Naturally, I expect to pay for this service.

Does anybody out there know anyone who could do this for me in Iowa?
(It has to be in reasonable driving distance of Des Moines).

If so, I'd appreciate your letting me know.

Thanks,
Larry Jordan

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:02:09 -0500
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Pearl Harbor Day Broadcasts
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       I just have one question: what programs were broadcast on Pearl
Harbor Day, December 7, 1945?

As always,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:25:11 -0500
From: Lakedm@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Time travel
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I'm not sure Heinlein would agree.  "A Door Into  Summer"

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:24:28 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  CBS blacklist and Himan Brown

Kermyt mentioned:

The first category on the list is Producers and Directors, and the first name
on the list is Hi Brown. (Norman Corwin is on the next line.) At the bottom
of the page, they justify Brown's exclusion on the grounds that "Inner
Sanctum regularly uses pro-Communists." (I read Martin Grams' book on Inner
Sanctum, and I don't remember that being mentioned!)

The subject was brought up but Himan Brown was not very co-operative over the phone during our interview. He insisted such statements as "Raymond Edward Johnson
was the host of Inner Sanctum for only four episodes." He didn't quote wrong, he said four episodes. The truth was Johnson was the host for four years but he and
Brown did not get along (Johnson admitted that many times over the decades). That and a number of other answers to questions made me aware that he was attempting to
change history. His mind was sharp and knew many things accurately down to the detail, but he was deliberately giving me answers he knew was wrong. When I brought 
up the fact about his name appearing on CBS' hit list, he clammed up and told me he was never on such a list and then told me over the phone that I should have done
my research before bringing that up. I didn't feel it was appropriate to mention it in the book as I didn't want to start any complications with Brown. But yes,
his name was on the list. It was one of the reasons why he and members of his family attempted to produce a few television series. And he might have succeeded beyond
the 39 INNER SANCTUM TV shows had the budget not been so cheap, which hampered production and made the films look like they were made in people's back yards.
Martin 
 		 	   		  

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:24:41 -0500
From: Dick Fisher <w9fjl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Captain Midnight 1942 Decoder
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Although from my previous posts there appears to be no one on the digest
interested in collecting old radio premiums, I will try once again to
see if anyone can help with a new question.

I lived through the golden age of radio and have maybe 200 or more
premiums in my collection.  One question that puzzles me is the photo of
Captain Midnight used as part of the 1942 decoder.  The photo seems to
be in color on some (if not most) of the decoders and a few seem to be
in black and white. I am wondering if the reason most appear in color is
the aging of the photo itself and they were all really in black and
white. Possibly depending on how they were developed and the care used
in the printing and fixing process could cause some to appear in color.

I had this premium as a child and of course do not remember how the
photo looked when new.

Logically it seems very doubtful the the Wander Company maker of
Ovaltine who sponsored Capt. Midnight would spend the money on a color
photo especially considering that in 1942 color photos were quite rare -
most professional photos of people in those days were black and white
and for an additional fee they could be hand colored by an artist that
worked for the photographer.

Does anyone know if these photos were originally really in color as most
appear to be.  Possibly Mr. Kallis can answer this question.

Dick

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:24:55 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  12-8 births/deaths

December 8th births

12-08-1888 - Raymond Lawrence - Bedford Square, England - d. 3-28-1976
actor: "Escape"; "The Halls of Ivy"; "Pursuit"
12-08-1891 - Percy Crosby - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-8-1964
"Skippy" a juvenile serial was based on Crosby's comic strip
12-08-1892 - Dr. Jacob Tarshish - d. 12-23-1960
rabbi: "The Lamplighter"
12-08-1894 - Elzie Segar - d. 10-13-1938
writer: "Popeye the Sailor" based on his comic strip
12-08-1894 - James Thurber - Columbus, OH - d. 11-2-1961
writer: "This Is My Best"
12-08-1895 - Harold Arlin - d. 3-14-1986
first full time radio announcer in the world, KDKA, Pittsburgh, 1921
12-08-1898 - Francis Scott Basch - d. 9-11-1997
news commentator: WAAT Jersey City, New Jersey
12-08-1904 - George Stevens - Oakland, CA - d. 3-8-1975
film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-08-1906 - Richard Llewellyn - St. David's, Wales - d. 11-30-1983
author: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "NBC University Theatre"
12-08-1907 - Frank Faylen - St. Louis, MO - d. 8-2-1985
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
12-08-1909 - Elaine Melchior - NYC - d. 10-22-2002
actor: Ardala Valmer "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century"
12-08-1910 - Ruth Matteson - San Jose, CA - d. 2-5-1975
actor: Nicole Scott "Against the Storm"
12-08-1911 - Lee J. Cobb - NYC - d. 2-11-1976
actor: the tailgunner "Roosty of the AAF"; "Citizen of the World";
"Hollywood Startime"
12-08-1913 - Sarajane Wells - Owensboro, KY - d. 1-11-1987
actor: Betty Fairchild "Jack Armstrong, the All-American Boy"
12-08-1914 - Floyd Tillman - Ryan, OK - d. 8-22-2003
country singer: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Country Music Time"
12-08-1914 - Mary Patton - Duluth, MN - d. 11-8-1982
actor: Marie Martel "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"; Lila North "Fat Man"
12-08-1915 - Ernest Lehman - NYC - d. 7-5-2005
writer: "Forecast"
12-08-1916 - Richard Fleischer - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-25-2006
film director: "The TM Radio Program"
12-08-1922 - Elkan Allan - London, England - d. 6-25-2006
writer: "Quiz Time", "Quiz Team"
12-08-1928 - Jay "Jaybird" Drennan - d. 12-9-2006
country music disk jockey (Akron, Ohio)
12-08-1928 - Jimmy Smith - Norristown, PA - d. 2-8-2005
jazz organist: Won a radio talent contest in Philadelphia at the age
of 9
12-08-1933 - Flip Wilson - Jersey City, NJ - d. 11-25-1998
comedian: "Voices of Vista"
12-08-1937 - James MacArthur - Los Angeles, CA
actor: "Theatre Guild of the Air"

December 8th deaths

01-21-1921 - Charlotte Manson - NYC - d. 12-8-1996
actor: Patsy Bowen "Nick Carter, Master Detective"
01-31-1917 - Fay Baker - NYC - d. 12-8-1987
actor: "Words at War"
02-11-1882 - John H. Mills - Bellfonte, PA - d. 12-8-1967
singer: (Father of the Mills Brothers)  "Mills Brothers Quartette"
03-02-1914 - Martin Ritt - NYC - d. 12-8-1990
film director, teacher: "Coming Home"
03-03-1924 - Cathy Downs - Port Jefferson, Long Island, NY - d.
12-8-1976
actor: "Your Movietown Radio Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Mail Call"
04-26-1898 - David Freedman - Botosani, Romania - d. 12-8-1936
gag writer for Eddie Cantor
05-03-1898 - Golda Meir - Kiev, Russia - d. 12-8-1978
israeli prime minister: "Meet the Press"
05-04-1903 - Luther Adler - NYC - d. 12-8-1984
actor: Peter Gentle "Mystery Without Murder"; "Greatest Story Ever
Told (1938-39)"
07-12-1903 - Ray Winters - Menomonie, WI - d. 12-8-1978
announcer: "Kitty Keene"; "The Lamplighter"; "Whispering Streets"
07-15-1893 - William Dieterle - Rhein-Palatinate, Germany - d. 12-8-1972
movie director: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
08-19-1922 - Lester Fletcher - Cardiff, Wales - d. 12-8-1989
actor: "Sherlock Holmes"; "FBI in Peace and War"
09-13-1900 - Gladys George - Patton, ME - d. 12-8-1954
actor: "Lincoln Highway"
09-23-1927 - Virginia McDowall - London, England - d. 12-8-2006
actor: "Family Theatre"; "NBC University Theatre"
09-26-1925 - Marty Robbins - Glendale, AZ - d. 12-8-1982
country/western singer: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Country Style [removed]"; "Big
Sound"
10-09-1929 - Harry Harvey - Florida - d. 12-8-1978
actor: Oogie Pringle "A Date with Judy"
10-09-1940 - John Lennon - Liverpool, England - d. 12-8-1980
singer: (The Beatles) "Here We Go Again"
11-12-1911 - Buck Clayton - Parsons, KS - d. 12-8-1991
trumpet: "Count Basie and His Orchestra"; "Doctor Jazz"
11-14-1915 - Martha Tilton - Corpus Christi, TX - d. 12-8-2006
singer: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Curt Massey-Martha Tilton Program"
11-28-1941 - Jennifer Rankin - d. 12-8-1979
writer: "Razorback Mountain Journey"
12-08-1891 - Percy Crosby - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-8-1964
"Skippy" a juvenile serial was based on Crosby's comic strip

Ron

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:25:07 -0500
From: wallyely1@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Question
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Long time [removed] time contacting the list.

Recently have been doctoring for painful foot problems.  All this  brought
to mind an OTR phrase -- but I can't remember who in radio world used  this
line.  Any help out there?

The line is, "Gotta hurry to the wagon boys, these shoes are a-killin'  me!"

Wally Ely
_[removed]_ ([removed])

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:25:59 -0500
From: "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Time Travel

FAVORITE STORY, MAYOR OF THE TOWN, CAMPBELL PLAYHOUSE and
others did an adaptation of A CHRISTMAS CAROL, which is
considered a time travel story.

One of the most popular stories on 1920s American radio was Dickens' "A
Christmas Carol." Readings, often with musical accompaniment, go back to at
least '22 and dramatizations go back to at least '24 (and increased as the
decade advanced). I went through 1920s radio listings at [removed]
a few years ago and, without trying very hard, found about forty scheduled
performances.

NBC had a 1928-29 anthology series called "Golden Legends" which featured
dramatized versions of alleged literary classics. Two of the scheduled plays
were "Carol" and "Rip Van Winkle" (which might qualify as a "suspended
animation" tale). That's about as close as I can get to a radio drama series
with more than one time travel story! (I've seen versions of "Rip" scheduled
in the '20s, too, but I've never tried to count them.)

Speaking of early radio science fiction, KHJ did a 1924 continuity program
called "KHJ Caravan to the Moon" in which a group of entertainers shoot for
the moon and apparently miss. The next day's Los Angeles Times (March 1)
remarks, "Slight inconsistencies such as launching a projectile from earth at
a speed of several thousand miles a second, without a tremor, and landing on
the roof of The Times Building on the return trip a few hours later without
even a bump, can be overlooked, if the artists and everybody in Radioland
have a good time." The program was "arranged" by O. G. Pirie who was involved
in the station's children's programming, and this sounds more like one of the
fantastic "Fairyland" tales regularly performed for the "kiddies" than
something you'd read in Hugo Gernsback's "Amazing Stories."

Does anybody know anything about a 1923 play broadcast from Philadelphia
called "The Secret Wave" by Clyde A. Criswell? A wire service story that year
reported that it was "the first radio play." The title makes me wonder if it
might have had a science fiction theme.

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:26:12 -0500
From: Steve Darnall <fvpress@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Winter Nostalgia Digest

I wanted to let everyone know that the new Winter issue of Nostalgia Digest
Magazine is back from the printer and in stores now. There's a great cover
photo about The Dick Van Dyke Show and an interview with June Foray, who
talks about her early radio days and some of her most famous roles. There's
an excerpt from Martin Grams and Terry Salomonson's upcoming "Green Hornet"
book, a look at the lives of Nero Wolfe, an overview of Space Age Pop and
more.

Additional information is available at [removed]. Feel free
to browse -- and don't forget to join us this Saturday on "Those Were the
Days"!

Steve

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