Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #280
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Date: 9/14/2005 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 280
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show        [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
      Two versions of Perikoff Policy       [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
      Dating a show                         [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
      Lucky Strike Green                    [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
      Re: XM Radio "Radio Classics"         [ "Will" <redsox45@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Wartime changes                       [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      9-14 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      The Golden Age of Radio with Dick Be  [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
      Seeing and hearing OTR                [ doug <doug@[removed]; ]
      Date of show -- found!                [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:45:26 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show

    A few digests ago, Brian Bedsworth wondered whether Dorothy Kilgallen had
    her own radio show as many columnists did in the heady days of the forties.

    Yes she did.  I have a fifteen segment of  "The Voice of Broadway" dated
    January 18, 1945.  Kilgallen features gossip reported on in her column for
    the now defunct New York Journal American.  The guest on this particular
    show was Bob Hope, who was in New York to see a performance of Frank Fay.
    The sponsor of the program was Bien Jolie Corsets. I believe it originated
    at WOR.

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:46:14 -0400
    From: wilditralian@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Two versions of Perikoff Policy

    09-13-05

    Matthew Bullis wrote on September 11th:

>     Hello, just wondering if anyone can tell the difference or why there are two
>     versions of the Perikoff Policy from Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar? They're the
>     first dated shows I have, and they're definitely different, due to the voice
>     inflections and some different wording. Can anyone clear up the confusion,
>     and possibly the date discrepancy? Thanks a lot.

    I don't have a definite answer, but, if both of them are dated the same,
    I would suspect that they are east-coast and west-coast broadcasts.

    Matthew, you may not be aware of this, but very often the studio would do
    one enactment and broadcast for the east coast and people in Central
    Time, and then go out and have some dinner and come back and do it all
    over again for the mountain and Pacific Time people with either one or
    two hours from the end of one to the beginning of the other.

    Regards,

    Jim
    --
    James H. Arva
    201 Short St.; Harrisburg, PA 17109; (717) 545-5709
    E-MAIL:  wilditralian@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:24:19 -0400
    From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Dating a show

    OK, this is a stretch.  I have a recording of a Kraft Music Hall show for
    which I would like the exact date.  I have some clues gleaned from listening
    to the show.

    The star, of course, was Bing Crosby.  It also included Mary Martin, Victor
    Borge and Sabu.

    I know it was at or near springtime as they were talking about signs of
    spring.

    But the biggest clue involves Sabu.  They mentioned that his latest movie,
    "Jungle Book," had just opened the same day as the broadcast!!

    That puts the show in 1942.  I have tried many different searches to find
    the premier date for that movie, but no luck.  Does anyone know, or know
    where to find out?

    Ted

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:30:19 -0400
    From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lucky Strike Green

    MICHAEL BIEL wrote:

>     Pardon my use of sarcasm here, but Bill H has proved himself to be to be
>     very gullible to the lies told by cigarette manufacturers when he repeated
>     their propaganda

    You have such a way of making a person feel really good.

>     The truth was that chromium was not in short supply

    Chromium was used to harden steel. The US did not have a large resource
    of chromium, in fact the supply today is, for all practical purposes,
    exhusted. It was on the restricted materials list along with aluminum,
    cadmium, nickel, tin, zinc, and copper during [removed] As far as how this
    affected LS I really don't know, but like you say it was probably more
    advertising hype than anything else.

    Bill H.

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:32:26 -0400
    From: "Will" <redsox45@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: XM Radio "Radio Classics"
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    In #279 Ken Piletic's post about XM's "Radio Classics" peaked my interest,
    as did Charlie's blog postings on 10/1/04 and 8/12 of this year. I'm one of
    the biggest XM fans out there. I've had the service for two years and plan
    on renewing my subscription. I'm very satisfied with the 10-15 regular
    channels I listen to on XM and the 5-10 semi regulars.

    But Radio Classics is not, nor will it ever be, one of those. Were it not
    for the PGA Golf Channel being such a disaster, I would have to say it's the
    worst English language channel on XM. The programming is weak, the play list
    is shallow, to unpredictable, and sounds worse than most of my mp3
    collection.

    The programming decisions at Radio Classics just don't make sense. Why even
    have a channel if you're only going to run a maximum of two days a week of
    "original" programming. There's certainly enough OTR out there to do a 12
    hour a day programming block and a 12 hour repeat. Moreover, you don't ask
    your listeners to go online, download a new schedule each week, and hope
    that they tune in. You put your major shows - your shows with established
    followings like FM&M, Johnny Dollar, Whistler, Dragnet, Benny, Lone Ranger,
    etc in recognizable, consistent programming slots that people will KNOW. You
    shuffle that around once or twice a year, not every week. And you advertise
    it.  Network TV doesn't switch their programming schedule every week. Nor
    does any standard, sensible radio station on XM, Sirius or terrestrial
    radio. Nor do you run a two day set of Christmas shows the entire final week
    of July. (MAYBE one day for Christmas in July, but not a whole week.)

    On top of all of that, their shallow play list - not characteristic of any
    of the dozen or so music channels I listen to - is extremely out of the norm
    for XM. If you hear OTR for the first time on XM, and you decide that you
    like it, even a little, you're going to poke around and find out there's a
    LOT of OTR out there you could collect and listen to as you please. Several
    times over what XM will play.

    For both of the above reasons, I'm rather cynical whether XM is actually
    introducing people to OTR. People want to hear "their shows" at set times,
    and they don't want to hear repeats of a meager play list throughout the
    week. I guess, if you don't know any better, for a couple of weeks, it's
    fine, but it doesn't take long before reality sets in especially if you do
    really like OTR and you want to start collecting it.

    There used to be some decent Internet OTR radio stations on Live 365, if
    amateurs can develop and program steady, constant, reasonable sounding
    material, a company like XM and Radio Spirits should be able to as well.

    Will Tuell

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:12:00 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:51:41 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Wartime changes

>     Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:58:08 -0400
>     From: "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed];

>     Things could have been worse:  during the war, the Australian
>     government simply banned the importing of American comics and
>     popular magazines as a non-essential luxury.     This was good news
>     for local comic-strip artists but caused a lot of heartburn amongst
>     science fiction fans who were cut off from their monthly fix of
>     "Astounding Stories" etc.

    Which brings to mind another story, somewhat a propos of Lucky Strike Green  going to war
    and never coming back.

    The magazine Astounding Science Fiction expanded in January 1942 from standard pulp
    size to 7 x 10" "bedsheet" size.  In the April 1943 issue, the editor announced that the
    magazine would return to its former size because of war-caused shortages of essential
    metals used in type and the government's request for magazine publishers to reduce their
    paper use. Starting with the October issue, the magazine went to digest size, and again, the
    reason given was the war.

    But "Astounding" remained digest size after the war, until (having meanwhile changed its
    name to "Analog" in 1960) March 1963, when it again experimented with a larger 8 1/2 x 11"
    size.  In April 1966, it returned to digest size, which it has been ever since.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:20:43 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-14 births/deaths

    September 14th births

    09-14-1899 - Hal B. Wallis - Chicago, IL - d. 10-5-1986
    film producer: "Tex and Jinx Show"; "Academy Award Program"; "Lux Radio
    Theatre"
    09-14-1907 - Cecil Brown - New Brighton, PA - d. 10-25-1987
    newscaster: "CBS European News"; "Sizing Up the News"
    09-14-1908 - Bernard Green - New York City, NY - d. 8-8-1975
    orchestra leader: "The Clock"
    09-14-1910 - Jack Hawkins - London, England - d. 7-18-1973
    actor: "[removed] Steel Hour"
    09-14-1916 - Jerry Doggett - d. 7-7-1997
    baseball announcer: "The LIberty Broadcasting System"
    09-14-1918 - Mike Stokey - Shreveport, LA - d. 9-7-2003
    announcer: "One Night Stand"
    09-14-1925 - Bill Christy - Seattle, WA - d. 2-25-1946
    actor: Franklin Dexter "Meet Corliss Archer"

    September 14th deaths

    01-01-1911 - Hank Greenberg - New York City, NY - d. 9-14-1994
    baseball great: "Play Ball"; "We the People"; "Philco Radio Time"
    01-17-1903 - Warren Hull - Gasport, NY - d. 9-14-1974
    actor: Jack Hamilton "Gibson Family"
    02-17-1914 - Wayne Morris - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-14-1959
    actor: "Radio Reader's Digest"; "NBC university Theatre of the Air"; "Lux
    Radio Theatre"
    03-22-1893 - Tito Vuolo - Italy - d. 9-14-1962
    actor: Uncle Carlo "The Goldbergs"
    06-08-1921 - Gordon McLendon - Paris, TX - d. 9-14-1986
    Founder of the Liberty Radio Network
    06-24-1910 - Cootie Williams - Mobile, AL - d. 9-14-1985
    jazz trumpet player: "Jubilee"
    09-02-1904 - Vera Vague (Barbara Jo Allen) - New York City, NY - d. 9-14-1974
    comedienne: "Vera Vague Show"; "Bob Hope Show"; "Jimmy Durante Show"
    10-03-1899 - Gertrude Berg - New York City, NY - d. 9-14-1966
    actress: Molly Goldberg, "Goldbergs"
    10-06-1906 - Janet Gaynor - Philadelphia, PA,  - d. 9-14-1984
    hostess, actress: "Hollywood Showcase: Stars Over Hollywood"; "Lux Radio
    Theatre"
    11-12-1929 - Grace Kelly - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-14-1982
    actress: "Family Theatre"; "Bob Hope Show"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:55:05 -0400
    From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The Golden Age of Radio with Dick Bertel and
     Ed Corcoran

    The latest "Golden Age of Radio" programs with
    Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran, can be heard at
    [removed]

    This week we present three complete shows in MP3
    format for your listening pleasure or for downloading.
    We present new shows every week or so.

     Program 65 - August, 1975 - Don MacLaughlin

    Don MacLaughlin played the part of David Harding on
    the famous radio drama "Counterspy." Counterspy was
    an espionage drama radio series that aired on ABC and
    Mutual from May 18, 1942 to November 29, 1957.

    Don MacLaughlin originated the role of lawyer Chris
    Hughes on As the World Turns in 1956, and played the
    role until his death in 1986.

    Program 66 - September, 1975 - Joseph Julian

    Joseph Julian entered radio in the early 1930s and spent
    three decades in the business, performing in over 20,000
    shows. While not a star of the absolute first rank, he had
    top roles in scores of radio shows and, along the way, also
    served as a sound-effects man, announcer, newscaster,
    disk jockey, writer, and foreign correspondent. His
    descriptions and anecdotes about all of the positions can
    be found in his book, "This Was Radio."

    Program 67 - October, 1975 - Frances Chaney

    Frances Chaney, the radio actress who played the part of
    Burma on "Terry and the Pirates" is interviewed by Dick
    and Ed. The show, based on the Milton Caniff comic strip
    included the characters Terry Lee, Pat Ryan, Flip Corkin,
    Hotshot Charlie, Connie the coolie, Burma, (Ms. Chaney)
    Elita, and the Dragon Lady.

    She had parlayed her radio work into a few screen parts
    before the blacklist started costing her jobs, but she was
    able to win parts in off-Broadway and Broadway plays,
    including understudying for Maureen Stapleton, Kim
    Stanley and Claudette Colbert. By the time the blacklist's
    power faded, Ms. Chaney was entrenched as a stage
    actress.

    Frances Chaney was the wife of Ring Lardner who was also
    blacklisted in the McCarthy era.

    In the 1970's Dick Bertel created the program for WTIC in
    Hartford, CT. The idea came to Dick after he interviewed radio
    collector-historian Ed  Corcoran a few times on his radio and
    TV shows. "The Golden Age of Radio was first broadcast in
    April, 1970;  Ed was Dick's co-host.

    For the next seven years the program featured interviews with
    actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians from radio's
    early days. Each show featured excerpts from Ed's collection.

    "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights
    on Walden Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

    Bob Scherago
    Webmaster

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:50:28 -0400
    From: doug <doug@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Seeing and hearing OTR

    Rick Keating pointed out:

>     ... when I listen to just about any radio show, I hear the _characters_
>     talking to one another, and I "see" the events being described. I don't hear
>     someone obviously _reading_ a script, and I don't "see" actors standing
>     around microphones.

    Same here, but for some reason OTR does this better for me than NTR. With
    older shows I see and hear the characters in their setting, but when I listen
    to a modern radio drama I see and hear actors in a studio. I don't know why
    that is but it's true. Maybe it's the recording technology, the better
    filtering out of breathing sounds and so forth, or just the different "room
    tone" of a modern studio. But aside from all that I really think OTR actors
    just gave better performances. One particular pet peeve of mine with modern
    radio drama is inept portrayals of elderly characters by young actors -- the
    standard quavery old-woman voice or country-style granddad voice, as if we
    can't tell it's a 28-year-old. Anyway, OTR takes me places where NTR just
    can't.

    Doug Leary
    Seattle

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    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:24:52 -0400
    From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Date of show -- found!

    Never mind my previous post.  Further hints in the recording enabled me to
    pin down the date of that Kraft Music Hall show to Thursday, April 16, 1942.

    Ted

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