Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #42
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 2/3/2002 11:16 AM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2002 : Issue 42
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Wide, Wide World                      [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
      Dan Reid                              [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
      Law and Order                         [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
      boxing                                [ "Michael DeLisa" <delisa_michael@ho ]
      Luis Van Rooten                       [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
      Amos and Andy 1933 twin towers        [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK RETURNS       [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Radio: Sixty Years Ago This Week      [ Michael Edwards <medwards_47@yahoo. ]
      The Lone Rangers Name revealed        [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
      Re: New Nero Wolfe of 1950-51         [ "ejcooper2001" <ejcooper2001@[removed] ]
      Dragnet                               [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Transcribed program announcement      [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Boxing                                [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Re: Max Baer                          [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      Re: Nick Carter                       [ Brent Pellegrini <brentp@[removed] ]
      commercials                           [ Jack Gale <jackgale@[removed]; ]
      New Time Radio broadcast [removed]    [ Wich2@[removed] ]
      Re: "Multitasking"                    [ BryantnOTR@[removed] ]
      Nostalgia Warning!                    [ Grbmd@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:48:06 -0500
    From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Wide, Wide World

    I do remember watching the first "Wide, Wide, World" broadcast and recall
    the lasting impression it made on me. To think that I could see the sun
    set in the East and then later witness the very same sun set in the West.
    The marvels of coast to coast television! Also to see and hear a stunning
    female vocalist perform on the Rocky Mountains. All live! Isn't it a
    shame that all those engineers are no longer with us and everything has
    to be recorded on tape! Maybe some time in the future the "brains" will
    find out a way to do "live broadcasting" again.

    Someone wondered about the large cabinet of records along with Martin
    Block. There is a story with that. One day Martin approached WNEW
    manager, Bernice Judas, and informed her that the vast record library at
    WNEW belonged to him and she would have to pay him a rental fee. It was
    true. The record companies at that time would send their newest releases
    directly to the disc jockeys. Consequently they were actually the
    property of the "jocks". As Bernice was known as "a tough cookie", I can
    imagine her reaction. However, she paid. Wish I could have witnessed that
    encounter!

    Anyone alive that remembers the all night "Milkman's Matinee" hosted by
    Stan Shaw on WNEW? I did know him at a later date. WNEW operated 24 hours
    a day with the exception of Sunday and Monday when they shared time (two
    hours) with WHBI (Hoyt Brothers, Inc.) in Newark.

    Dinah Shore (Fanny Rose) and Frank Sinatra both got their start at WNEW,
    as did many others.

    Bill Murtough

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:48:49 -0500
    From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Dan Reid

    All these posts about The Lone Ranger's [removed]
    where does the Nephew, "Dan" Reid enter into
    the storyline?  Dan visited his Uncle and Tonto every Summer from back East.
    Wasn't his horse, Victor,  an offspring of "the great horse" Silver?
    (Or, perhaps it was Tonto's horse "Paint?" )

    As it happened, later on when I was in college, my
    roommate from a Detroit suburb, Jim Hawkins, was one of the "Dan Reid" voice
    actors at WXYZ.

    Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:48:31 -0500
    From: Osborneam@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Law and Order

    After reading my OTR digest a day late, I discovered that I missed seeing
    Arthur Anderson on Law and Order.  Did he play a named character or
    was he just in the background.  I recall seeing Ruth Last in the jury box
    in an earlier episode but don't think she was even named in the credits.
    Does anyone have the show with Arthur in it on tape?

    If you have it on tape and would be willing to make me a copy, please contact
    me.  I'll pay a reasonable price for it plus postage, or send a blank tape in
    exchange, whichever you prefer.

    Hope someone got it.
    Arlene Osborne

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:49:37 -0500
    From: "Michael DeLisa" <delisa_michael@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: boxing

    I have come across a couple of Boxing-related shows --

    "Iz Zat So?" Lux Radio Theatre (1936), starring James Cagney
    "The Passionate Palooka," The Thin Man (Jul. 6, 1948)
    Murray Woroner's Computer Tournament (1967)

    Joe Louis on Radio
    Bill Stern Sports Newsreel: 45-12-07
    Fred Allen 40-01-31
    Jack Benny 45-11-11

    Many old fights are floating around, but it is still difficult for me to
    compile a list of the earliest bouts [removed]'ll compile my list and send
    later.

    Finally, (a litle off topic) I see someone here mentioned the Ridgewood
    Grove.  They started broadcasting TV in 1939, althoug I ahve found
    broadcasts as early as 1932.

    Mike DeLisa
    [removed]

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:50:16 -0500
    From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Luis Van Rooten

    Ryan,

    Your Lewy van Rooten spelled his name "Luis" as indicated by
    his submission to Lew (another thus such namee) Lauria "Radio
    Artists Directory. for the New York section of artists.

    See:

    [removed]

    CAB
    --
    conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
       From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
         Encino, California.

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:51:06 -0500
    From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Amos and Andy 1933 twin towers

    A couple of months ago there was a discussion of the sky cable ride at
    the 1933 Chicago Worlds Fair having the two towers nicknamed "Amos" and
    "Andy."  I just won a guidebook the fair on ebay, and one of the scans
    of the book's contents shows this ride--without any mention of Amos or
    Andy.  While the scan of this page is still up, you might want to take a
    look.

    [removed];owner_id=213285&allow_track_link=1&track=011edee854-&

    Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:51:59 -0500
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK RETURNS

    (02/02/02)  The Olde Tyme Radio Network returnms to air today (Sunday) thanks
    to the long time development by Jerry Haendiges at his vintage OTR site,
    [removed]
    Jerry has developed the rejuvenated site that has not been active for some
    time now.
    It will feature weekly shows of  SAME TIME, SAME STATION,  which he has
    "inherited" from the Gassman brothers and a return to the microphone after 20
    years away from broadcasting.  HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
    returns
    after a two-year absence.  The Olde Tyme Radio Network will feature a 32 kbps
    (kilobits per second) site at:  [removed] which is a very fast
    bit rate to
    ghive an equivalent of up to 16,000 cycles - a nice new way of listening to
    OTR.  You will notice the difference at once!!
    Opening Day shows are:

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION
    The Jack Carson Show  10/02/46  Jack runs for county commisioner.
    Theatre of Romance  Ep. 86  01/19/46  "The Uninvited"
    Mary Pickford & Company  Ep. 1  10/03/34   "The Church Mouse"
    Molle Mystery Theatre   04/19/46    "Follow That Cab"

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE
    The Green Hornet  10/13/46  "The Wrapped Book"
    Dimension X  11/12/50  "Shaghied"
    Lum And Abner  1943 - Part 1 of "Opening a Picture Show"

    Hopefully the new sound in OTR will be a real pleasure to listen to. Only a
    huge site like Jerry's OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK could support this
    high-quality listening.
    We both hope you will enjoy the new series and will request shows you want.
    Thanks to all who have been so encouraging and helpful in the redevelopment.
    The address again is:  [removed]
    ---Tom Heathwood----   Heritage Radio - Boston

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    Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:49:17 -0500
    From: Michael Edwards <medwards_47@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Radio: Sixty Years Ago This Week

>     >From the Sunday, February 1, 1942 New York Times Radio

    Column:

    1)ìWhat must be far and away the most elaborate
    government radio program yet concocted is now in
    preparation at Archibald MacLeishís Office of Facts
    and Figures and scheduled for a premiere on or about
    Saturday, [removed]  The general idea, as reported to
    this sector, is about as follows:

    ìAll four of the networks have been asked to clear a
    half hour every Saturday night (7 to 7:30 oíclock)
    and, further, to divide the production cost of the
    show--about $1,000 per network.  Under the direction
    of Norman Corwin, and with ìnameî stars in the leading
    roles, the programs would dramatize various phases of
    government production.  The National Broadcasting
    Company studios here will be the originating point, it
    is said.î

    2) ìThe fact that Tallulah Bankhead has been so long
    about getting around to her first regular program for
    the air is radioís loss, but not Miss Bankheadís.  By
    the simple device of waiting, she will be commanding a
    salary of $2,750 for each of her appearances, the
    first of which occurs this Tuesday evening at 8
    oíclock over WEAF.  Item No. 1: ìSuspicionî, adapted
    from Dorothy Sayresí short story of the same name.

    ìAnother lady coming over to the air from another
    medium is Lenore Ulric, she of the sultry voice that
    did not go unnoticed in such warmly remembered
    vehicles as ìKikiî and ìLulu Belleî.  Beginning a week
    from today, she will make a number of visits as guest
    star on the ìInner Sanctumî program.

    ìOn the other hand, there is Miss Greta Garbo.î

    3) ìMiss Garboís failure to appear on the ìMarch of
    Dimesî program a week ago last night was, of course,
    the talk of Radio Row for several days.  A few angles:

    ì1. Miss Garbo herself made no definite commitment to
    take part in the program.

    ì2. Arch Obler, who conceived and staged the show,
    says that on Jan. 9 in Hollywood he received assurance
    from the Hollywood Victory Committee, her agent and
    her personal representative, that she would
    participate.

    ì3. Newspapers the country over gave considerable
    publicity to this on the weekend of Jan 17-18.

    ì4. On Jan. 23, in New York, a ìMarch of Dimesî
    official, checking with Miss Garboís secretary about
    arrangements for placing a microphone in Miss Garboís
    hotel suite, was told that Miss Garbo knew nothing
    about the invitation to appear on the program.î

    4) ìDavid Harum is not moving away from WEAF in favor
    of WABC tomorrow, as these columns said last Sunday.
    It is merely adding a thirteen-station Columbia
    hook-up.î

    5) ìJames Monks of the films (How Green Was My Valley,
    and Joan of Paris) is also of the radio.  He has been
    added to NBCís Light of the World, after having been
    head on Theatre of Today, Ellery Queen, Little Orphan
    Annie, and the Ave Maria [removed] tomorrow
    Kate Smith will broadcast for a week from Miami.  Back
    by Feb. 9.î

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:13:45 -0500
    From: AandG4jc@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: The Lone Rangers Name revealed

        Harry Machin Jr.,stated:

>     What is the basis of the argument by those who say otherwise?

        Well, only two episodes that I know of that reveal his identity.
    1. Was the 20th anniversary show called "The Return of Butch Cavendish."
    2. A 12/25/42 episode entitled "A Nephew found", where he reveals himself to
    his newly found, young nephew, Dan Reid. The son of his older brother Dan
    Reid, Sr.
    Allen

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:40:45 -0500
    From: "ejcooper2001" <ejcooper2001@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: New Nero Wolfe of 1950-51

    In reply to Rodney Bowcock: Don't know why so many Archies (Harry Bartell
    are you there??). But  the short answer to his other question is: it only
    lasted 26 weeks because it was sustaining (although some OTR references
    refer to Plymouth as a sponsor, there are no ads in the circulating
    recordings that I have heard, only NBC promos) .1950 was the year that the
    new audience measurement service, AC Nielsen, reported that more people were
    now watching television than were listening to radio, in the cities which
    had TV stations. David Sarnoff, CEO of NBC/RCA was more interested at this
    point in exploiting TV than radio (FOOEY!!), thus the net's ad agencies and
    sposors were kind of detoured in television's direction. Programs at that
    point pretty much had to find a sponsor to remain on the air. It was a very
    well done and in my humble opinion, highly underrated show. If other readers
    of this digest have never given it a listen, I highly recommend it. And
    Harry, you were by far the BEST Archie during the whole run of the series.

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:41:01 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Dragnet

>     Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:32:37 -0500
>     From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];

>     Peggy Webber played Joe's
>     mother, which added a nice human touch to the character from time to time.

    Yes, by the time of the TV series, Joe Friday had no private life at all
    that we could see.  Niether did his partners.

>     During this time, Sgt. Friday became more self-righteous and
>     moral.  He and his partner would often collar a suspect and give him a
>     long-winded speech, resulting in the suspect breaking down and confessing.

    I have the feeling this may be as much a reflection of the times as
    anything else.  The 1950s, especiall the early 50s, when Joe McCarthy
    held sway, were a period of great self-righteousness and a lot of
    preaching, by government and entertainers alike.  This didn't really end
    until the growth of the anti-war protests in the mid-60s.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:41:20 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Transcribed program announcement

>     Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:38:05 -0500
>     From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];

>     If a program was pre-recorded, by law it would have to be announced as
>     being "Transcribed".

    I wonder how long that continued to be the case.  I remember hearing that
    announcement on early television.  In 1949, every episode of the Howdy
    Doody Show ended with Howdy saying, "A portion of the Howdy Doody Show
    electrically transcribed."  I didn't know what that meant, and my mother
    explained it to me.  By early 1950, they weren't making that announcement
    orally any more, but I later noticed, after I had learned to read, that
    they had an announcement to that effect on the screen with the closing
    credits.

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:42:32 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Boxing

    My memories of boxing are of the Friday night Gillette Cavelcade of
    Sports on television.  My father used to let me stay up and watch them
    with him.  I'm not sure how much I was interested in the fights, but I
    liked the chance to stay up and watch something with my father.

    One time, though, the TV station wasn't able to get the network signal,
    so, with the "Technical Difficulties" sign on the screen, they put the
    sound from the blow-by-blow coverage on NBC radio, from their sister
    radio station, which was also an NBC affiliate.  I found I liked the
    excitement of the radio announcer, and after that, I spent some of the
    time watching the fight with my father and some of the time in my room,
    with the radio on, sitting where I could still see the TV screen in the
    living room.

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:42:59 -0500
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: Max Baer

    wa5pdk@[removed] ([removed] L.) wrote:

>     The first boxing matches I listened to were Primo Canaro vx Max Baer.

    If memory serves, Max Baer was the father of the lad that played
    Jethro on _The Beverly Hillbillies_. Am I correct, and did the
    younger Max ever do any boxing? If so, he seems to have escaped the
    broken nose that often serves to identify those who have tried their
    hand at pugilism. For that matter, did the elder Max do any acting
    that might have paved the way for his son?
    --

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:43:27 -0500
    From: Brent Pellegrini <brentp@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: Re: Nick Carter

    I've never seen Nick Carter discussed in this group. It is one of my
    favorite series because it can be downright corny and downright wierd.
    There was one episode about some kind of strange vampire people who lived
    in trees in a park. At first i didn't like the show (as was often the case
    with first listenings. a friend of mine didn't like Escape the first time
    he heard it) But the more I lisented to it the more I liked it. I began to
    view it as almost a curiosity. I'm sure the Firesign Theater used it as a
    model for Nick Danger, Third Eye. I probably havent' listened to any
    Carter shows in over ten years but i remember one dated gem. Nick asks his
    secretary Patsy to do something and she answers in all seriousness. "I
    couldn't do that Nick. I'm just a woman."

    +++_SI^@)y
    TLUFp<1pyN4&

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:44:09 -0500
    From: Jack Gale <jackgale@[removed];
    To: OLD TIME RADIO <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: commercials

     Many should remember Raymond Burr who played Perry Mason and Ironside. I
    was a deejay in Cleveland in the early fifties and won an audition to do
    commercials for The Liberty Collection. This was a collection of parchment
    papers containing The Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, etc.
    There was to be another announcer also. Imagine my surprise when I arrived
    at the studios and found the other announcer to be none other than Raymond
    Burr. Seemed he owned the Liberty Collection.
    Ten years later, I did commercials in Miami for Kendall Toyota. I was called
    for a session to do one of six commercials, all featuring a different male
    voice. All six featured the same female [removed] wonderful Loni Anderson.
    She was amazing. Talented, delightful, with no eager. It was a marvelous
    experience.
    Jack Gale

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:44:46 -0500
    From: Wich2@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject: New Time Radio broadcast [removed]

    FRIENDS:
    IF YOU'RE IN THE [removed] OHIO TRI-STATE AREA, TUNE IN!

    Quicksilver Radio Theater is proud to announce a special President&#8217;s
    Day Weekend presentation of GOOD FRIDAY, 1865: LINCOLN'S LAST DAY. This
    one-hour radio play will have it&#8217;s Ohio premiere on Sunday, February
    17th at 6:00 pm, and a special encore broadcast Monday, February 18th at 7:00
    pm, on WONW&#8212;1280 AM.

    This original drama, produced live on stage as part of the Museum of
    Television and Radio's "Annual Radio Festival" in New York City, is adapted
    by Producer Craig Wichman from the historical record. The character of a
    country and a President are revealed, as a traumatic war winds down--while
    eerie events presage Lincoln's own end.  The cast includes Vito LaBella,
    Derek Lively, John O'Donnell, Emma Palzere, John Prave, Dan Renkin,
    Bernadette Fiorella-Wichman, Mark Hollmann,  Broadway actress Katie Nutt as
    &#8220;Mary Todd Lincoln&#8221;, and Mr. Wichman as the 16th President.
    Sound effects by Sue Zizza and David Shinn of SueMedia; original music by
    Broadway composer Mark Hollmann; Director, Jay Stern.

    Leonard Maltin has called this production "...A great [removed] really
    first-rate&#8221;; it is the recipient of the National Audio Theater&#8217;s
    &#8220;Best Script&#8221; award. Quicksilver has also received the National
    Federation of Community Broadcasters&#8217; &#8220;Gold Reel&#8221; and
    "Silver Reel" Awards.

    THANKS,
    CRAIG

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:45:49 -0500
    From: BryantnOTR@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Re: "Multitasking"

    I recently read a posting by Stephen Kallis, Jr., Digest 28 mentioning

>     '...did so with eyes wide open, "multitasking" with some other [removed]'

    which has brought back memories of my early days of radio when as kids in the
    neighborhood we dropped our outside after school play time to be home by 5 pm
    to tune in to the Mutual Station and listen to about an hour of back-to-back
    [removed] Mix, The Lone Ranger, Captain Midnight, Straight Arrow, Bobby
    Benson, et. al.  While the shows aired, we built models of airplanes, boats,
    etc., pausing at certain times to write down the Captain Midnight Code of the
    day, or the address for a 'boxtop/label' premium.  At school the next day we
    would often share comments about the previous days program(s), and later on
    shared our completed handiwork(s) with each other.  This was a hobby for many
    years, and a most memorable part of growing up with radio.
    "Multitasking"...good [removed] fun!

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    Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:45:56 -0500
    From: Grbmd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Nostalgia Warning!

    I thought I had better issue this warning:

    WATCH OUT!

    Several days ago, all I did was casually mention that as a kid I had listened
    to boxing broadcasts on radio from Madison Square Garden.  Since then, I
    can't believe how many responses and original messages have resulted wherein
    the subject has been boxing on radio.  It's incredible.

    So here's a warning to all the OTR fans on this Digest.  Whatever you do,
    don't introduce some new recollection of radio back in the old days.
    Otherwise, many other Digest subscribers may just respond and recall their
    own backgrounds and their memories and their ideas about some facet of the
    golden age of radio.  And we sure wouldn't want that, would we?

    Spence

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