Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #230
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 6/9/2003 10:08 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 230
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Computer Viruses                      [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      AM-FM Stereo                          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Early AM stereo                       [ danhughes@[removed] ]
      Stereo simulcasts                     [ "Ed Ellers" <kd4awq@[removed]; ]
      Computer viruses                      [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
      OTS (Old-Time Stereo)                 [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Blue on Blue                          [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
      re- "Old Time" Stereo System          [ "Michael Hingson" <MHingson@guidedo ]
      Re: Stereo                            [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
      Speaking of Radio                     [ Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@yahoo. ]
      HAPPY BIRTHDAY HAL                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Robert Culp                           [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Reading Herb Harrison's discussion a  [ Bob Scherago <rscherago@[removed]; ]
      Reading Herb Harrison's discussion    [ Bob Scherago <rscherago@[removed]; ]
      smithsonian radio theatre             [ "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed] ]
      Words At War in the Daily News        [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 01:07:59 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Computer Viruses

>     Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:16:41 -0400
>     From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];

>     Charlie Summers had a point.  With all the talk of the new BugBear virus
>     floating around on the web, many crooked people will take advantage of
>     spreading chaos on the web just for their jollies.  There is an easy way
>     to prevent yourself from downloading anything harmful and it's so simple.

    Actually, one of the best ways to protect oneself is not to use the most popular e-mail client
    software.  Most viruses are written for Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express and won't work
    if you aren't using that software.  Netscape is probably the second most popular software.
    Something like Pegasus Mail, an excellent freeware program which I have used for several
    years, is largely immune.  It won't launch attached programs automatically and warns you
    not to try to launch them if you don't know what they are.

    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 01:09:22 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  AM-FM Stereo

>     Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:39:33 -0400
>     From: Darryl Hannon <trawfrog@[removed];

>     Back then, although FM broadcasting was common, it wasn't stereo. WOR, for
>     reasons I never fully understood, decided to provide (as a limited test)
>     stereo service by broadcasting one channel on WOR-AM and the other channel
>     on WOR-FM. One was left channel and the other was right. Listeners were
>     instructed to place two radios side by side to hear "stereo". What a
>     lashup! As I remember, it worked, but hardly seemed worth the effort.
>     Did any station other than WOR try such a thing?

    Yes.  WBZ in Boston did it with a regular one-hour program on Sunday early evening.  The
    first few minutes of the program consisted of instructions for how to place an AM radio on
    one side tuned to WBZ-AM and an FM radio on the other side tuned to WBZ-FM.  Then they
    played stereo records.

    WCRB in Waltham/Boston, which was (and still is) an all classical music station, broadcast
    extensively in AM-FM stereo.  When FM multiplex stereo was authorized, they were one of
    the first stations to use it.

    Several stations in the Boston area broadcast concerts in FM-FM stereo.  This involved two
    FM stations cooperating, with one station broadcasting the left channel and the other the
    right channel.

    And on at least one occasion, the Walt Disney show on ABC television broadcast a program
    in stereo, with ABC radio broadcasting one channel on AM and the other on FM, with TV
    broadcasting a middle channel.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 01:09:15 -0400
    From: danhughes@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Early AM stereo

    Darryl explains how WOR went "stereo" by sending the left signal on AM
    and the right signal on FM (you needed two radios), and he wonders if
    this was a first.

    My college dorm at Purdue University (Cary quad) had two carrier current
    radio stations.  On 600 AM we broadcast easy listening music and on 650
    AM we did rock and roll.

    On Sundays we combined the stations and broadcast in stereo--left channel
    on 600, right channel on 650.  Since most rooms in the dorm were doubles,
    and each student had his own radio, most rooms had two radios and it was
    easy to play them both simultaneously for stereo.  Worked fine.  (I was
    there from 1966 to 1969, and as far as I know they had been doing this
    since the late fifties--is that when stereo first appeared on records?)

    ---Dan

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:50:19 -0400
    From: "Ed Ellers" <kd4awq@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Stereo simulcasts

    Darryl Hannon <trawfrog@[removed]; wrote:

>     Back then, although FM broadcasting was common, it wasn't stereo. WOR, for
>     reasons I never fully understood, decided to provide (as a limited test)
>     stereo service by broadcasting one channel on WOR-AM and the other channel
>     on WOR-FM.

>     "Did any station other than WOR try such a thing?

    Quite a few did, enough so that several audio manufacturers made stereo
    tuners that had completely separate AM and FM sections, including separate
    dials, to pick up these broadcasts.  This died out fairly soon after stereo
    FM was approved in 1961, since it did drive up the cost of AM/FM tuners even
    for those who couldn't get simulcasts in their areas.

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:00:23 -0400
    From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Computer viruses

    When I accessed 'new mail' to my In-box tonight, I received an alert
    message from my McAfee anti-virus app saying a downloaded file from a
    subscriber to this list contains the "W32[removed]@MM". I deleted the
    message that contained the virus and sent a message to the sender to let
    him know that his message was corrupted.
    With all due respect to those who think that their vigilance alone will
    "trap" any messages that might contain viruses, a better defense is the use
    of a good anti-virus program *and* vigilance.
    After all, even if you filter out all the SPAM messages, even your
    brother-in-law can unknowingly send you a VIRUS message.

    Herb Harrison

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: I posted that note to make certain everyone was aware that
    viral attachments were being delivered to a large number of OTR Digest
    subscribers from bogus addresses (the actual infected computer has been
    narrowed to Michigan regardless of the false From: header fields); my
    intention was NOT to generate an on-going discussion on the Digest about
    these attachments.

    Anyone who receives any of these, or _any_ virus for that matter, is free to
    contact me _directly_ for information and assistance to avoid making mistakes
    in reporting them, but this is not really the place to have a conversation
    about protecting computers from them. There are MANY security-related mailing
    lists on the Net that deal directly with protecting your computer from
    viruses, and on those lists, discussing Old-Time Radio wouldn't be expected.

    So let's get back to what we do best.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:00:48 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTS  (Old-Time Stereo)

    Darryl Hannon, speaking of WOR's early experiment with stereo
    broadcasting *one channel on AM; the other on FM), he asked,

>     Did any station other than OR try such a thing?

    WQXR, a classical radio station in New York City.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:01:01 -0400
    From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Blue on Blue

    Hi Gang:

       I just wanted to take this opportunity to congratulate my buddy Howard Blue
    on the nice write-up he and his book "Words at war" got from "Radio Dial"
    columnist David Hinckley  in today's (Mon. 06/09/2003) edition of the New York
    DAILY NEWS.
       Do yourself a favour  & check it out at:

    <[removed];

       If this doesn't work, just go to <[removed]>, click on
    "Entertainment" & take it from there.

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:53:50 -0400
    From: "Michael Hingson" <MHingson@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  re- "Old Time" Stereo System

    The discussion of experimental stereo on the radio reminded me of a
    system my parents bought from Sears back in the late 1950s.  This large
    cabinet contained a stereo record player, an AM receiver, and an FM
    receiver.  Separate tuning knobs were provided for each tuner with AM at
    the top of the inside of the cabinet and FM at the bottom.  There were
    buttons to switch from the record player to AM, FM, and an AM/FM
    combination with AM coming out of the left speaker and FM coming out of
    the right.  The unit even contained a switch on the record player to
    turn stereo on and off in case the records weren't recorded in High Fi
    stereo.

    I do not recall ever hearing a radio broadcast which took advantage of
    the kind of stereo discussed previously here.  I grew up north of Los
    Angeles and could hear all the LA stations.

    It seems to me that one station, perhaps KHJ, once planned to conduct
    such an experiment.  I don't recall ever hearing any broadcast.

    The concept was intreaguing never the less.

    Mike Hingson

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 13:11:36 -0400
    From: Shenbarger@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Stereo
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    In a message dated 6/8/2003 10:20:49 PM Central Daylight Time, Darryl Hannon
    writes:

>     Back then, although FM broadcasting was common, it wasn't stereo. WOR, for
>     reasons I never fully understood, decided to provide (as a limited test)
>     stereo service by broadcasting one channel on WOR-AM and the other
>     channel on WOR-FM. One was left channel and the other was right.
>     Listeners were instructed to place two radios side by side to hear
>     "stereo". What a lashup! As I remember,
>     it worked, but hardly seemed worth the effort.

>     Did any station other than WOR try such a thing?

    I believe it was thought to be the future for a couple of years. I built a
    mono Hi-fi about 1959-60 from Heathkit components and among them was an AM-FM
    "Stereo" tuner. It had two tuning knobs and two tuning eye tube meters, one for
    AM and one for FM. The output was switched mono into two jacks and the
    selector had AM-STEREO-FM. The stereo position sent AM to one jack and FM to the
    other jack. Heatkit sold at least two such tunners in different styles, so I'm
    guessing it was in their catalog for a few years.

    Don Shenbarger

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 14:20:11 -0400
    From: Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Speaking of Radio

    A couple of years ago I downloaded some mp3 files entitled "Speaking
    of Radio-The Jack Benny Show." In the 10-part series (at least I got
    10 parts) are interviews with Jack, Dennis and other members of the
    cast and writers, along with excerpts from the show. I wonder is
    anyone on the list knows offhand who produced this series, and when
    it was done.

    Alan

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:25:21 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  HAPPY BIRTHDAY HAL

    Those who were born on the 10th of June are:

    06-10-1895 - Hattie McDaniel - Wichita, KS - d. 10-26-1952
    actress: Beulah "Beulah"; Mammy "Maxwell House Showboat"
    06-10-1898 - Norman Brokenshire - Murcheson, Ontario, Canada - d. 5-4-1965
    announcer: "Music That Satisfies"; "Theatre Guild on the Air"
    06-10-1903 - Ernest Chappell - Syracuse, NY - d. 7-4-1983
    announcer: "Fabulous Dr. Tweedy"; "Quiet Please"; "The Big Story"
    06-10-1922 - Judy Garland - Grand Rapids, MN - d. 6-22-1969
    singer, actress: "Good News of 1938"; "Bob Hope Show"
    06-10-1926 - June Haver - Rock Island, IL
    vocalist: (Fio Rito Orchestra) "Hollywood Hotel"
    06-10-1931 - Hal "Harlan" Stone - Whitestone, Long Island, NY
    actor, author: Jughead Jones "Archie Andrews"; "[removed], Archie! Re-laxx!"

    Thosw who died on the 10th of June are:

    04-05-1900 - Spencer Tracy - Milwaukee, WI - d. 6-10-1967
    actor: "Good News of 1938"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    06-30-1898 - George Chandler - Waukegan, IL - d. 6-10-1985
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Spencer Tracy

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:25:36 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Robert Culp

    I need help, no, I don't mean that kind.

    I have a radio program that features Robert Culp, but I cannot find it. I
    forgot the name of it. Can anyone help? Thanking you in advance.

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Spencer Tracy

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:26:55 -0400
    From: Bob Scherago <rscherago@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject: Reading Herb Harrison's discussion about record players brought
        to mind an experiment run by WOR in New York (during the '50's?,
      '60's?).

    	Back then, although FM broadcasting was common, it wasn't stereo. WOR,
     for
    	reasons I never fully understood, decided to provide (as a limited
     test) stereo
    	service by broadcasting one channel on WOR-AM and the other
     channel on WOR-FM.
    	One was left channel and the other was right. Listeners
     were instructed to
    	place two radios side by side to hear "stereo". What
     a lashup! As I remember,
    	it worked, but hardly seemed worth the effort.

    	AM - FM Stereo
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    " . . . WOR, for reasons I never fully understood,
    decided to provide (as a limited test) stereo service
    by broadcasting one channel on WOR-AM and the other
    channel on WOR-FM. One was left channel and the other
    was right. Listeners were instructed to place two
    radios side by side to hear "stereo".

    "What a lashup! As I remember, it worked, but hardly
    seemed worth the effort.

    "Did any station other than WOR try such a thing?"

    In my first job as a "professional" radio engineer in
    1960 at WGLI-WTFM in Babylon, NY, I discovered a huge
    library of 2-track stereo tapes. I asked around, and
    was told that a few years back that station had done
    the same thing for a couple of years.
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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:30:33 -0400
    From: Bob Scherago <rscherago@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Reading Herb Harrison's discussion

    Darryl Hannon wrote:

>     What a lashup! As I remember, it worked, but hardly
>     seemed worth the effort.

>     Did any station other than WOR try such a thing?

    In my first job as a "professional" radio engineer in
    1960 at WGLI-WTFM in Babylon, NY, I discovered a huge
    library of 2-track stereo tapes. I asked around, and
    was told that a few years back that station had done
    the same thing for a couple of years.

    Bob Scherago
    Voice of America
    Washington, DC

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    Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:11:16 -0400
    From: "Donald P. Tuttle" <dobbsi5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  smithsonian radio theatre

    First, a disclaimer--i have no interest in the smithsonian as a member or
    subscriber--but i note there is a presentation entitled "Radio
    Theatre--Live!" June 18-19, at 7:30 [removed] at the Voice of America
    Auditorium, 330 Independence Avenue, [removed], C Street Entrance, Washington,
    [removed] The promo in the Smithsonian magazine says it "delights audiences with
    a fascinating, behind-the-scenes view of a live radio drama during
    production, and the chance to be part of the studio audience  as it is
    taped for future broadcast on VOA worldwide and on public radio in the
    [removed]" The magazine lists another production, "Laughing Wild" by Christopher
    Durang July 9-10. See the June issue of Smithsonian Associates for details.

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    Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 00:02:27 -0400
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Words At War in the Daily News

    Howard Blue's Words At War is reviewed by David Hinckley of The New York
    Daily News today.  David loved the book.

    The review is here:
    [removed] .

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

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