Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #124
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 3/23/2003 3:34 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 124
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Sen Sen                               [ mart459@[removed] ]
      Sam & Henry                           [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
      Remastering OTR                       [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
      Japan OTR List Members                [ Shakehip@[removed] ]
      takhow to change a dvd old radio sho  [ michael chatterton <chat51@comcast. ]
      Re: Chicken Heart                     [ Paulurbahn@[removed] ]
      OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK Schedule for  [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
      Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
      Our Miss Brooks Show Date             [ "Welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
      Hal Stone as Jughead                  [ "rthweatt@[removed]" <rthweatt@ ]
      Bright Star Radio Program             [ "rthweatt@[removed]" <rthweatt@ ]
      "Mark" Dillon                         [ "Randall F. Miller Jr." <rfmillerjr ]
      Drew Pearson & the General Patton sl  [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
      Fred Allen & Prtland Hoffa            [ "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed] ]

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    Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:11:26 -0500
    From: mart459@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sen Sen

    There was some discussion on Sen-Sen a while ago. If anyone needs some I now
    have a few packages that I just picked up. Of all places to find it, the
    Milwaukee Public Museum (spent the day watching my 6 year old dig for
    "dinosaur" bones).
    They were selling it for $.75 USD per package.

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    Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:48:44 -0500
    From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
    To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Sam & Henry

    I guess the obvious question is, are there any extant air-checks (pretty
    early for air-checks) or transcription recordings of Sam & Henry? (not
    commercial studio recordings)

    Joe Salerno

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    Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:31:36 -0500
    From: ilamfan@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
    Subject:  Remastering OTR

    I had some thoughts about remastering OTR.

         I have heard/read/checked out several interesting methods of people
    working at remastering from old sources like transcription discs and wire
    recordings.
         A story I'd heard on NPR played examples of harsh old wire recordings
    though a newly-refurbished wire machine (utilizing a current cassette playback
    head to read the magnetic impulses on the wire), and the results were
    astonishingly clear.  Almost all of the background noise was reduced, and
    there
    was much more depth and character in the audio that remained.  The show didn't
    specify if there was any type of external noise-reduction applied, however.
         And about a month ago, someone on this list gave a link to a page on the
    internet in which someone purported to place an lp on his computer scanner,
    scan the disc grooves, and then apply a program to the scan to "play" the lp.
    I checked this article out, and listened to the (very disappointing) audio
    samples, and am still skeptical that the story is real.
         However, the application of current technology to old recordings is
    continually amazing to me - and the amount that we can improve audio, even
    on "unsalvageable" recordings, is phenomenal.
         I know that many transcription discs are extremely fragile, that some
    might even only allow a single playing before deteriorating just behind the
    needle.  What might the feasability be of a high-quality laser scan of the
    entire surface of a TD?  If the scan were done at 2 different angles, and
    combined, using some sort of triangulation algorithm, wouldn't it be possible
    to save a disc as a 3-dimensional "virtual" object?  It wouldn't even need to
    be physically touched, so there would be no danger of damaging the disc(unless
    the laser light might affect the disc materials).
         It would only be a hop, skip, and a jump to the virtual turntable (a
    computer program) to play the virtual disc.  The choices in (virtual)needle
    materials and angles could be tried and retried, until the best match is found
    for the disc, all without touching the original at all.  I'd expect that
    without a real turntable, there would be no rumble from the motor introduced
    into the recording (although the rumble from the original cutting would
    probably be apparent).  Both types of TD cutting methods (were they vertical
    and lateral?) would be just as easily playable, too.  The same technology
    could
    be applied to cylinder recordings.
         Then, of course, there are the dozens of EQ, declicking, and noise-
    reduction techniques that we already have on hand, to further improve the
    sound.
         I think that all of this should be just within reach, none of the
    technology seems that far out.  Maybe a self-contained unit with 2 lasers, a
    processor to read/translate the scans, and a line out to connect to your home
    audio setup?  A device like this could replace everyone's turntables at all
    levels, couldn't it?  What do you think?  Am I just a nut?  Mr Biel?  Mr
    Zinck?  Anybody?

    Stephen Jansen

    --
    Old Time Radio never dies - it
    just changes formats!

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    Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:55:01 -0500
    From: Shakehip@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Japan OTR List Members

    Hi !  I spoke to a few foks a couple of months ago on the list about having a
    get-together in Tokyo (sooner or later) - - I've arrived, but my former
    computer plotzed out a week before.
    Please get in touch with me if you'd like to hook up.
    Just dial TOKYO san hachi hachi ni go ni yon [removed] (if you don't understand
    this, some listmembers might be able to offer you a Radio Detective
    Cryptograph to help out, or just save up those box tops.)   Please don't
    respond to the [removed] As much a delight as almost every post is to read
    (and I mean it !) due to all the unpacking and stuff I don't have much time
    to read the [removed] I'm also a bit slow on e-mails [removed]

    Ed

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    Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:56:02 -0500
    From: michael chatterton <chat51@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  takhow to change a dvd old radio shows to
     mp3?

      i bought a couple of cds that where made into a dvd form and i want
    to know how to take off the old radio shows and record them on a disk
    in mp3 format? does any tech wizard out there know how to do this ??/

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    Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:55:43 -0500
    From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Chicken Heart

    In a message dated 3/22/03 4:27:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    [removed]@[removed] writes:

>     I was listening to a broadcast of Lights Out and Arch Oboler said that his
>     story the following week was called, Chicken Heart.   Was this the same
>     version of Chicken Heart that Oboler used on his record, Drop Dead?RyanO

    Ryan,
    The story may be the same but its not the same recording. Besides the Drop
    Dead album version being short. It was recorded in stereo for the album. My
    album is stereo so I know its not a radio recording. Talk about scary, its
    Obler in stereo.

    Paul Urbahns

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:38:12 -0500
    From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK Schedule for week
     starting: 03/23/03

    Here's the lineup for another interesting week - tune in the streaming
    high-end audio 24/7 at:   [removed]

    SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
    1. ROMANCE OF THE RANCHOS - 10/22/41 - "Paso DeBartolo Viejo"
    starring:  Frank Graham as the Wandering Vacquero.
    2. INFORMATION PLEASE - 10/17/41  with Host: Clifton Fadiman,
    and joined by guest panelist: Fred Allen, along with regulars,  John
    Kieran, Franklin P. Adams and Oscar Levant.
    3. MEET THE MEEKS  - 6/12/48  "The Circus is in Town"  - Stars:
    Forest Lewis, Beryl Vaughn, Fran Allison and Cliff Soubier.
    4. THE LONE RANGER    - 4/30/52    "The Man with No Name"  stars
    Brace Beemer and John Todd.

    HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
    1. THE LUX RADIO THEATRE - CBS - 3/21/44   Frank Sinatra stars
    in "Wake Up and Live"  - the tale of a radio network page who sings.
    2. THE COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL with Bill Stern   NBC  #606
    6/20/51 -  The last show of the series after 12 and  a half years on the air.
    Lots of clips and nostalgia.

    Enjoy -   Tom & Jerry

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:38:36 -0500
    From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
    To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Today in radio history

     From Those Were The Days --

    1940 - Truth or Consequences was first heard on radio. The Ralph
    Edwards-produced program was hosted by Mr. Edwards. The show was originally
    heard on only four CBS stations. Later, NBC picked up the show where it
    eventually became the most popular of all radio quiz shows.

       Joe

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 14:54:06 -0500
    From: "Welsa" <welsa@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Our Miss Brooks Show Date

    Trying to find the date of an Our Miss Brooks Show.  The plot line concerns
    Conklin's attempts to bring order to the student traffic in the halls
    between classes.  Any one know the date of that show?  I can't find anything
    in the on-line logs I can find.

    Ted

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 14:54:16 -0500
    From: "rthweatt@[removed]" <rthweatt@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Hal Stone as Jughead

    Hello all:

    Just received Hal Stone's book "[removed], Archie! Re-laxx!" about his life
    in radio and his adventures as Jughead on the Archie Andrew show (from
    Bygone Days Press).  It was an excellent read, had a lot of interesting
    facts and tidbits about OTR and a ton of pictures.  I was so captivated with
    the book I finished reading it in one afternoon.

    I highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in OTR.

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 14:54:37 -0500
    From: "rthweatt@[removed]" <rthweatt@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bright Star Radio Program

    I am trying to find out who played Patience (a maid for Irene Dunne's
    character on the show) and Sammy (the copy boy in the office).  The show ran
    from 1952-53 and starred Irene Dunne and Fred MacMurray as the main
    characters.

    I think that Sammy may have been played by Jackie Kelk, but I need
    confirmation for this.  He is better known for playing the role of Homer on
    The Aldrich Family.

    I have no idea who played Patience.

    I would appreciate any help or suggestions that you all can give me about
    Bright Star.

    Thanks in advance,

    RThweatt

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 14:59:54 -0500
    From: "Randall F. Miller Jr." <rfmillerjr1@[removed];
    To: OldRadio Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  "Mark" Dillon

>     just finished 2 early episodes  of gunsmoke. the marshals name on both shows
>     was mark dillon. can someone explain this and when the change was made to matt
>     dillon

    According to the booklet that came with my latest acquisition "The Best of
    Gunsmoke on Radio" by Anthony Tollin.
    There were two "pilots" but neither one took off.  Finally John Meston was
    hired as the writer.
    "Casting the starring role of Matt Dillon was more difficult.  Future Perry
    Mason Raymond Burr was considered for the role renamed 'Matt' by Meston who
    felt the name Mark sounded too modern."
    Harry Bartell was part of the original supporting cast.
    Maybe he will offer more insight

    -- Randy Miller

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:04:09 -0500
    From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Drew Pearson & the General Patton slapping
     story

    A professor at New York University is trying to locate the Drew Pearson
    broadcast which first broke the story about General Patton slapping two
    soldiers

    Please reply to me off-line

    Thank you,

    Howard Blue

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    Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:31:11 -0500
    From: "Phil Watson" <philwats@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Fred Allen & Prtland Hoffa

    BBC Radio 4 here in England are airing a documentary series starting on
    Tuesday called "Who Wears The Trousers ?". The series is about American
    husband and wife double acts.

    The ad in the radio guide says "Fred Allen realised that having your wife as
    your straight man would make greater financial sense, but he miscalculated
    Hoffa's popularity. In an interview with Frances Hershowitz, Portland's
    niece, their partnership and story is explored for the first time."

    You can listen online at [removed] on Tuesday at [removed] UK time,
    early morning in the US. I'll be recording the series so if any members of
    the digest can't listen online and would like to hear the series please
    contact me off digest.

    I don't know yet who's featured in the rest of the series.

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