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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 437

Table Of Contents: 

	 Re: Cinnamon Bear
	 OOPS!
	 Chester and the Bear
	 Chester and the Bear
	 Himan Brown's Mystery Theater
	 ILAM scripts
	 BBC WAR OF THE WORLDS
	 Jack Benny with Canada Dry
	 Still MORE Karloff on the Radio
	 Cinammon Bear/The Fear That [removed]
	 Cinnamon Bear Series--Thanks!
	 Lum and Abner
	 More Information!
	 Parley Baer/Howard McNear

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:44:01 -0500
From: CardiacRx@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cinnamon Bear
Message-ID: <961113084400_1551363605@[removed]>

As you've probably already been deluged with [removed]'ll add my $[removed]
  The series is available on both cassette and CD [removed] can't remember
where I poicked mine up through, but I'd guess it shouldn't be too hard to
locate.  If you can't find it, drop an e-mail and I can copy it.

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:35:55 -0500
From: c holm <cbholm@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: OOPS!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Sorry, please disregard my last post.  Floyd the barber was NOT [removed]
he was Doc.  I've been studying a lot lately and wasn't paying attention.  

Chris Holm
VA Tech - Industrial and Systems Engineering
cbholm@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:35:40 -0700
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Chester and the Bear
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Christopher Holm is just a _tad_ off:  Parley Baer is the immortal Chester
Proudfoot, not Doc Adams (see my previous post about Floyd the
Doctor)  ([removed] those days, barbers often doubled as dentists or
doctors, so that isn't as much of a stretch as it [removed]).

The Cinnamon Bear seems to be available everywhere.  The Smithsonian
packages a collection of 'em, and they're even on the shelves at the local
B. Dalton Books.  Perhaps our Adventures in Cassettes person could
offer you a swell deal.

If you combine the above two concepts, you have the Cimmaron Bear, a
smart-talking gun-packing brown bear from the Cimmaron Strip who Matt
Dillon has to shoot down and then have guilt feelings about.
*jeep!
~~~~Chet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quote of the day:  "When George Washington flipped a quarter, did he
say
                             'Me or tails'?"  --Lew Scannon

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:36:15 -0700
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Chester and the Bear
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Christopher Holm is just a _tad_ off:  Parley Baer is the immortal Chester
Proudfoot, not Doc Adams (see my previous post about Floyd the
Doctor)  ([removed] those days, barbers often doubled as dentists or
doctors, so that isn't as much of a stretch as it [removed]).

The Cinnamon Bear seems to be available everywhere.  The Smithsonian
packages a collection of 'em, and they're even on the shelves at the local
B. Dalton Books.  Perhaps our Adventures in Cassettes person could
offer you a swell deal.

If you combine the above two concepts, you have the Cimmaron Bear, a
smart-talking gun-packing brown bear from the Cimmaron Strip who Matt
Dillon has to shoot down and then have guilt feelings about.
*jeep!
~~~~Chet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quote of the day:  "When George Washington flipped a quarter, did he
say
                             'Me or tails'?"  --Lew Scannon

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:59:05 -0500
From: coco@[removed] (Melina Brown)
To: <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Himan Brown's Mystery Theater
Message-ID: <[removed]@coco>
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Burt Wilson wrote:
>I think what he was trying to say--If I may be allowed to interpret his
>thoughts --was that it is never the same when it is repeated.  Nothing
>can
>take the place of hearing it in the time and place it originated, >because
>that was the time and place it was created for.  Not that it can't be
>entertaining once again and not that a new listener can't enjoy it--but it
>will never be the same!  I know, this is a metaphysical thing, but it's
>true.  If we live in the past, we are not fulfilling our purpose as a
>human
>being.  Enjoying the past is one thing;living in it, [removed], under its
>influence, is another.  I enjoy it mightily, but It  don't live in it.  I
>think that's what he was saying.
>Burt Wilson

Burt seems to understand Mr. Brown's [removed]
I have had the opportunity to show Mr. Brown the comments that many of you
have made about the show and about his comments on the page. (which, from
my reading, are parts of a few interviews put together .)
Because of  ongoing negotiations with CBS and his hope of expanding this
type of programming, Mr. Brown hasnt given me any comment to address to the
digest yet.  He is also extremely busy working on Ivanhoe for CBS and some
other projects. 
He did convey some of his feelings to me, however, which are summed up
pretty well by Burt's post.
As someone who is in constant contact with Mr. Brown, let me say this:
He is a great supporter of the arts and has done more charitible work in
that area than any of us can ever hope to do.
He respects the love that many people have for OTR, but his focus is
sharply towards the future of radio/audio drama.
He is working tirelessly in a world of new technology (that he absorbs and
uses like you wouldnt believe!)...And within the constraints of popular
programming, which poses delicate problems within large corporations.
OTR is not considered particularly commercially feasible by the powers that
be, and that  is not news to the members of this mailing list. 
Mr. Brown is striving to bring an updated form of "OTR" to the public at
[removed] the internet, local and national [removed] he is
working within a system that needs to see this work as contemporary, as he
does. His newer contemporary shows address current issues while
entertaining. His newer historic shows aim toward teaching and encouraging
reading while entertaining.   

He expressed to me specifically that he wouldnt want anyone to get the
impression that he does not hold the arts in the highest regard and respect
the love that people have for one form or another.  

I am not really at liberty to go into the specifics of Mr. Brown's personal
contrubutions to the arts and the preservation of the form, but I view them
as substantial.
In my opinion, if he expresses a certain exasperation from time to time it
only reflects the difficult work that he has been doing in order to bring
NEW programming to us all.  This is his drive and purpose.
The seeming offense that a couple of you took at this statements is
unfortunate. He is not trying to deprive anyone of their enjoyment of past
work, he is only trying to keep producing an artform that he feels is
important to future generations. Those old shows are there already for us
to enjoy. I am thankful that there is someone working so tirelessly towards
the future of the art form.

Thanks,

Melina Brown

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:06 -0800
From: Dean Allchin <dallchin@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ILAM scripts
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello everyone

I am glad, ever so glad, to hear that someone has gotten hold of a Morse
script and redone "The Fear that Creeps Like a Cat."  I might take a little
time getting use to someone other than Jim Boles playing Doc Long, but
beggars can't be choosers.

I have an lp of "The Temple of Vampires" put out by Radiola.  It has a
rather deceptive *note at the bottom of the back cover which says,
"Important note to collectors: On the air for 15 minutes a day, a 20 episode
story, such as "Temple of Vampires" would take 5 hours to listen to.  We
have carefully, creatively, edited these programs by eliminating repititious
openings, closings, story recapitulations, and other non-action portions and
episodes to create an exciting, action packed, and continuous [removed]"
Ha! Large portions of the story are missing anyway, as we know, so the story
is already fragmented.

Nevertheless, the album contains an excellent history of ILAM clip from Jim
Harmon's book "The Great Radio Heroes." Interesting stuff.  Does anyone have
this book?

One thing more before I go.  Does the same actor play the role of Sunny
Richard's attorney, Leslie Marks, in ILAM's "The Richard Curse" and the role
of Professor Jarmon (sp?) in Inner Sanctum's "Elixir Number Four"? He sure
sounds the same.

Thank you all for your time

Sincerely
Dean Allchin

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:44:53 -0800
From: Mutz@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: BBC WAR OF THE WORLDS
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

hello,
 i just recieved the war of the worlds bbc broadcast from KEN GREENWALD  and 
i'll make copies for all that ask! it's on 3 60 min tapes all i ask is that you 
send $[removed] for postage and the padded envolope. the tapes sound super!!
thanks KEN for the great sounding tapes:)

send the $2 to:

michael utz
95 pinto lane
ringgold, ga
30736

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:40:04 -0500
From: "Eric N. Wilson" <ewilson@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Jack Benny with Canada Dry
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

   So I was listening to the SPERDVAC tape of the Gassman Brothers' Jack
Benny workshop, and they mentioned that out of all the shows Jack did for
Canada Dry, only one complete show (the debut) existed, along with three
partial ones.
   Well, I can't help but wonder, because the only Canada Dry show I've ever
found is the single complete [removed] I was wondering if anyone knew what
the three other shows were and where they can be found, if at all.  Can
anyone here help?
   Eric W.

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:40:27 -0500
From: "Eric N. Wilson" <ewilson@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Still MORE Karloff on the Radio
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  Add this one to your list of Boris [removed] Guild Players of Nov.
25, 1946: Arsenic and Old Lace.  Karloff played the role he originated on
Broadway as Johnathin, the crooked nephew who tries to stow a corpse in his
aunties' cellar (and BOY! did HE get a [removed]).  Apparently he shot
this guy for saying he looked like Boris Karloff <G>.
  Cheers,
   Eric Wilson

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:14:22 -0500
From: AIC4Radio@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cinammon Bear/The Fear That [removed]
Message-ID: <961113151421_1748946378@[removed]>

In a message dated 96-11-13 01:03:29 EST, you write:

> One special radio show series he remembers is the "Cinammon Bear" series
that 
>was run near Christmas time. 

Adventures In Cassettes carries the Cinammon Bear -- all the shows in a
6-tape album.
Call 800-328-0108 or visit our Web Site for further info on this, or on "The
Fear That Creeps Like A Cat" from Jim Harmon (Thanks for remembering us,
Chet)! And I agree - Tony Clay is a wonderful "Doc!" "Heavens to my Grandma!"

Sue Hamilton
AIC4Radio@[removed]
[removed] 

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:01:21 -0800
From: Jim Votisek <votisek@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cinnamon Bear Series--Thanks!
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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To all,

	I would like to take a minute and thank the following people for 
writing to my e-mail with information on the CINNAMON BEAR SERIES:

	Larry Bohall				John Sexton
	Stark Maynard				Thomas Heathwood
	Jan Bach				Wayne Caldwell
	Shawn Whalen				Frank Mallory
	Martin Guth				John Henley
	James Ouzts				Keith????
	
	Thanks again to all above.  All of these nice people took time 
out of their busy lives to write me a quick note.  Thanks so much!  It is 
very much appreciated.  

On a side note, if anyone is interested in trading OTR shows, please 
write me at votisek@[removed]  I collect mainly comedy.  I am a huge 
Jack Benny fan and am looking to expand my collection of his show.  Also 
like Lum and Abner, Fibber McGee and Molly, Fred Allen, and many others. 
Hope we can work some trades and keep OTR alive for years to come.  It 
really is a great hobby.  

Thanks again.

"Well were a little late [removed] Folks!"

Matt Votisek

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:22:42 -0800
From: Jim Votisek <votisek@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Lum and Abner
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To all,

I know, I know, 2 notes in one day--I need to get a life! Right?
I am a big Lum and Abner fan but do not have nearly enough of their 
programs.  If anyone has any of the LUM AND ABNER series programs and 
wants to trade, please e-mail me at votisek@[removed]

Thanks.

Well were a little late [removed] Folks!

Matt Votisek

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:47:55 EST
From: jdeff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: More Information!
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Sorry to keep posting on here like this, but I am trying to do some
research on something.

There was a show back in the 80's (I am not sure when it started) called
the Mary Jane Popp Show, it aired on KGNR radio in Sacramento CA.

I have another, but I will check else where first.

Thank you for you patiance with me.

	Jeff

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 21:02 PST
From: lois@[removed] (Lois Culver)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Parley Baer/Howard McNear
Message-Id: <m0vNtwJ-0007qOC@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I was listening to Gunsmoke yesterday on the Radio Entertainment Network, and
>thought the voice of Doc sounded a lot like Floyd the Barber on the Andy
>Griffith Show. I didn't recognize the actor's [removed] anyone know if they
>are the same? Thanks! --Larry D. Bohall <><
>

Yes, its Parley Baer. Heard on many other CBS shows including Suspense,
Escape, Tales of the Texas Rangers (?).  Also the voice of the Keebler Elf.


Nonono, Parley Baer never was Doc Adams on Gunsmoke.  That was Howard
McNear, who was also extremely busy in OTR.  Knew them both well.  Parley
was Matt Dillons deputy Chester.

Lois Culver



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