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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 89
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Betty Hutton                          [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Cinti Radio Convention                [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
  RE: Another title needed              [ Jeff Knowling <jeff_knowling@hotmai ]
  re: Goodbye Open Reel Tape!           [ Dan <teac35@[removed]; ]
  Godfrey musings                       [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Gildersleeve's lid                    [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  Light of the World                    [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  Re: Goodbye Open Reel Tape!           [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  Sportscasters                         [ Alan Bell <alanlinda43@[removed]; ]
  re: why mp3 or even wave              [ Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed]; ]
  Potent [removed]                   [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
  I Love A Mystery sound quality        [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  New Jersey OTR                        [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  RE: Truth or Consequences (UNCLASSIF  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  Re: why mp3 or even wav?              [ "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed]; ]
  Natural Bridge Show                   [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
  BBC Sherlock Holmes mp3               [ Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed]; ]

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:43:45 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Betty Hutton

Steve Salaba asked:

For anyone attending the Cincinnati OTR Convention, Friday morning there
will be an hour-long film showing of OTR-related short films and one of 
them is COMMAND [removed] Among the guests you will see Betty
Hutton singing and dancing.

Is this her performance of "Murder, He Says"? I love that bit! This
is probably one of those films that is not available on video - darn
it!

Yes, that's the one.  It has been available on video, incidentally, but not 
commercially.  It's one of those MANY cases where in order to watch a great 
film short, one has to turn to dealers and vendors who specialize in 
hard-to-find films, and dismiss the fact that it's not "commercially" 
released.  I have a friend in North Carolina who insists if it's not 
"commercially" released, he doesn't buy it - but not a week goes by that he 
doesn't gripe about some film or tv show or radio show that hasn't been 
released commercially (and some of the titles he asks for probably never 
will be) and frustrates himself about not having a copy in his possession.  
He's a Bob Hope fan so he's always asking about Bob Hope radio shows and 
films that have not been commercially released.  If he just broke down and 
bought what is available non-commercially, he'd make himself happy and save 
money since many commercial releases of films he asks for would be more in 
retail if they did decide to release it.

Betty Hutton's "Murder, He Says" song is wonderful.  She even dances and 
performs while singing in the mircophone for the radio series, showing just 
how performers got into the groove even when it's just a radio series.  They 
"act" the part out.

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:05:17 -0400
From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cinti Radio Convention

There's a great chance I'll be in Dayton during the Cincinnati Radio
Convention. So-o-o-o, I'd like to come down for at least a day. Maybe back
again for a second.

I cannot find any website for the convention, so could some dear soul either
direct me to an e-mail info souce, or give me some details (where it's held,
times, etc.)

I understand there are daily admission rates whcich would be good for moi.

Finally, what day would listers recommend as the best one to attend, and
which day has the least goin' on.

Thanks!

BILL KNOWLTON

[ADMINISTRIVIA: As mentioned here before, the latest fliers are available at
[removed] - you will probably need to scroll down or use the
search box on the sidebar.  --cfs3]

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:07:34 -0400
From: Jeff Knowling <jeff_knowling@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Another title needed
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Now, I'd like to test the metal of the group again. I'm looking for an
episode of Have Gun, Will Travel.

I think the title of the HGWT episode is The Outlaw.  The character's name is
Manfred Holt, so that may be listed as/in the title from some sources.

In the other medium, that character was played by Charles Bronson.  A good
enough show, but I miss John Dehner's voice.
A usual lurker, glad to help out,

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:48:02 -0400
From: Dan <teac35@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Goodbye Open Reel Tape!

Ken,
 Actually, new open reel tape is still being
manufactured today by a company called RMGI out of the
Netherlands. They took over the old BASF manufacturing
of tape and are doing well. I just bought several
"pancakes" from a reputable on line dealer
([removed]) - usual disclaimers and all
that rot - just a very satisfied customer.

 As far as cassette tape, I know of only Maxell and
TDK. I am not aware of Chrome Oxide tape being made by
those companies.
 True, there are other outlets of cassette tape out
there, but, it's pretty much a crap shoot AND you get
what you pay for.
 For example: I went and purchased a bulk order (100)
of cassette tape from a on line dealer. After using
their "all purpose" tape for a month (and 12 cassettes
later), I noticed that the tape itself was showing
signs of stretching and fatigue. Mind you, I keep my
playback and recording gear maintenance up above par
and the tape in question was played primarily on my
walkman. I contacted the company and told them what I
was experiencing and they offered to refund my money
IF I would send back ALL the tape (even the used ones)
at my expence. I politely told them I would send them
back at THEIR expence and wish to speak to a Higher
Up, then they relented.
 I did get reimbursed for my purchase, (I bulk erased
the used tape) they paid for the return postage, and 1
month later I recieved my refund - with a coupon for
50 free tapes of the same grade I had bad luck with -
yeah, right!

 Anyway, I know I got off track with this thread, but
I just wanted to add to your Knowledge of Open Reel,
not take away from it or dispute it.

 Have A Great Day!
Dan

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:09:18 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Godfrey musings
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Joe Postove asked:

Was Arthur Godfrey An Anti-Semite?

It's remarkable that so many legends have grown up around Arthur Godfrey.
"That Godfrey Guy" Lee Munsick will dispute statements about and actions
attributed to AG chapter and verse. Over the years, I've heard that Godfrey
"fired Julius LaRosa live on the air," "buzzed the tower at Teteboro Airport,"
"died lonely and friendless" and "uttered the catch-phrase 'how-are-ya?
how-are-ya?how-are-ya?' ad nauseum."  Professor Munsick seems to be able to
shoot down these assertions with OTR/D postings of McLeod-ian proportions.

I do remember Lee hosting a Godfrey panel at FOTR about 15 years ago and
addressing theanti-Semitism charge. Lee conveyed a story in which AG, a
stockhloder in some vacation hotel/resort in Florida--an establishment, which
unbeknownst to AG, disallowed Jew--flew into a rage and demanded the hotel
alter its policies and remove any signs that might've stated the hotel's
policy of exclusion.

Clear the decks. I'm sure my pal Lee is in the batter's circle ready to weigh
in on [removed]

Derek Tague

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:00:53 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Gildersleeve's lid

On Monday, March 19, 2007, at 08:44 AM, Dale Clark wrote:

Recently I  found a 4" high bottle with an advertisement for the Great
Gildersleeve Show on the lid. The lid has a caricature of Gildersleeve
smoking a cigar. Does anyone here know what this bottle may have
contained? Who were the show's sponsors over the years?

"Hake's Price Guide to Character Toy Premiums" lists only two premiums 
for the Gildersleeve series; one is a radio studio audience ticket and 
the other is your lid. However, the bottle (or jar) you found is not 
mentioned, which could mean you've made a real discovery.

The lid is described as "Litho Tin, 2 1/4 inches, Jar Lid, circa 1941." 
Price ranges from $ 15 to $ 45 depending on condition. I don't have the 
current edition of Hake's so these values may be higher today. Plus 
since you also have the jar, you can double whatever is quoted for just 
the lid.

Kraft Foods was the longtime sponsor of this series (at least for the 
first ten years) but that's not much help since they manufactured and 
advertised so many different products. Your jar probably didn't contain 
butter or cheese, but perhaps mayonnaise?

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
<[removed]>

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:01:11 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Light of the World

On Monday, March 19, 2007, at 08:44 AM, Randy Miller wrote:

Do any copies of this program exist?

--Randy Miller

Turning to the pages of Jay Hickerson's invaluable "Ultimate History of
Network Radio", we read that this series was on NBC for over ten years
(3-18-40 to 6-2-50) usually sponsored by General Mills. Bret Morrison
was the narrator and this 15 minute program was on five times a week.
Despite its longevity and the thousands of shows broadcast, only seven
have survived in audio form today.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
<[removed]>

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:01:42 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Goodbye Open Reel Tape!

Ken Greenwald's comments are indeed sad news for those who prefer to
archive their otr on tape (which I do). It is interesting because my
brother recently had some conversations with the archivists at the
Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville. He happened to have a couple of
very old transcriptions from the forties that had home recording clips
of the Oprey that he donated to them. The archivist said the only real
proven archival material was tape. So one has to figure that hopefully,
some of these types of organizations trying to preserve material and
making copies are getting tape from some where. CDs and DATs, etc. just
haven't yet proven themselves. I have a few CD-ROMS that are starting to
act up after only a few years. ROMs of course are just not as stable as
having them pressed onto CD via a master, but even those apparently are
not proven methods of storage for many professional archive organizations.

Jim Widner

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:01:56 -0400
From: Alan Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Sportscasters

Another one of my periodic calls for help. I'd like to
be able to play excerpts of some famous, pioneeering
sportscasters from the radio era. I find Clem McCarthy
fairly easy to come by. But I would LOVE to be able to
come up with examples of Graham McNamee, Ted Husing,
Red Barber, and Mell Allen, to name my priorities. I'd
especially like an example of a re-creation by Gordon
McClendon, maybe Red Barber or even Ronald Reagan (how
cool would that be)?

Can someone direct me to a source--doesn't have to be
online--where I might find such things (if indeed they
even exist)?

Alan

_________________
Alan/Linda Bell
Grand Rapids, MI

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:15:21 -0400
From: Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: why mp3 or even wave

From: "EDWARD CARR" <edcarr@[removed];

good evening
i know it was brought up once before,but i can't help
but bring it up again, with cd as low as 10cents ea
i just bought 500 awhile back, imations, not a bad
cd, what is the reason for mp3 anyway?

For me it's a matter of portability. I travel
extensively and space comes at a premium. I have a
hard drive based MP3 player that will hold more OTR
and music than I could possibly listen to in one trip.
All this in a package that's smaller than a deck of
cards. It turns out that OTR and MP3 technology work
very well with one another when done properly. MP3 got
a bad rap in the early days when dial up networking
restricted file size. The relatively small
16kbps/22khz files sounded horrible. Now with high
speed internet, higher bitrates and optimized encoders
MP3 makes a lot more sense. I'm a big fan of VBR
(variable bit rate) encoding. Modern computers and
software can turn out MP3 files that sound every bit
as good as the original. Gone are the days of MP3's
sounding like they were recorded in a washing machine
or artifact riddled encodes.

As usual your mileage may vary. If you'd like to learn
about VBR compression and accurate CD to MP3 transfer
using FREE software be sure to look at the following
website.
[removed]

I hope this helps,
Tom

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:52:39 -0400
From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Potent [removed]

So, there we were, drinking some Finian's Rainbow beer, on Saturday--

(I think it might actually be green, and just seems multi-colored when
you've had more than a few)

When a question occured to one of my nostalgia-minded compatriots:

James Bond has his [removed]

Archie Bunker has his [removed]

But were there specific drinks that some of the noted radio characters
were known for?

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:30:27 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  I Love A Mystery sound quality

There actually is VERY good sound quality for I LOVE A MYSTERY - it all
depends on where you get the recordings.  There is not ONE person who
originated every recording that is in circulation today - but tracking down
who had access to original masters and checking to see if they can copy what
they have will give you the earliest generation and sound quality you can
purchase.  Avoid MP3s for that particular show - you'll never find superb
sound in that format.

Ted Davenport of Radio Memories, Terry Salomonson of Audio Classics, Radio
Yesteryear and the Metacom/Adventures in Cassettes releases are your best
bets if you can find them on audio cassette of CD, as an easy first step
(some specific episodes originate from varius dealers who over the years
found one or two episodes and made them available so for those particular
one or two episodes, you need to go to them to get the earliest generation)
but the names above will give you MOST of the common titles in superb or
very good quality.

Martin

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:30:47 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  New Jersey OTR

For anyone interested in picking up some old-time radio-releated comics, the
following may be of interest:

[removed] for the most up to date information.

MIDJERSEY COMICON
Saturday, MARCH 24, 2007

10 AM- 4PM
Days Inn
1073 Route 206 North
Bordentown, NJ, 08505 US

$3 admission

There was a vendor selling OTR shows last year but I am not sure if he will
be there selling again, but if you are looking to pick up some Terry and the
Pirates, Our Miss Brooks, Gang Busters, The Shadow or Green Hornet comics,
and if you live within an hour's drive, might want to check it out.  It's
not very large but worth a quick drive.

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:31:52 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Truth or Consequences (UNCLASSIFIED)

Ralph Edwards:	How do you spell "animal."

Contestant:		a-n-i-m-a-l.

Ralph Edwards:	Now spell it backwards.

Contestant:		l-a-m-i-n-a.

Ralph Edwards:	WRONG! You haven't told the truth, so you must face the
consequences.

Actually, I heard a show where the contestant got the correct answer, and
Edwards was dumbfounded. After he recovered, he asked the contestant if he
would still pay the consequences and the contestant agreed. Then they were
off on their hilarious gag.

The one that sticks out in memory other than "the Walking Man," was a stunt
where the contestant was going to get a shiny new Nash automobile. All he had
to do was go to Kenosha, Wi. To pick it up. He was handcuffed sometime during
the procedure, and he was told that the key would be mailed to him. Then,
after he left the stage, Edwards gave the audience an address, and asked
everyone who had an old key that they weren't using to send it in and the
contestant would receive it. The following week, they had a remote set up at
the Nash factory, and when the man tried to pick up the car, he was told that
the key was in Canton. So they sent him to China and he called back from
somewhere in the Phillipines the following week, where he was changing
planes. Then he was asked what he was doing all the way out there and he said
he was on his way to Canton to pick up the key. Edwards then told him that
there had been a misunderstanding and he was to get the key at Canton, Ohio.
The following week, he was in Canton, Ohio and he picked up the key from
Charlie Key. Eventually, he worked his way back to the studio and then to
Kenosha to finally get his car. Somehow, though, he ended up in handcuffs
again, and I don't remember how that happened. BTW, it's spelled "t-i"
backwards.

Thanx,

[removed]

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:32:17 -0400
From: "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Mailing List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: why mp3 or even wav?

On Sun., 18-Mar-2007, at 05:49:22pm EDT (-0400 GMT),
"Jeffrey Keil" <KeilJ_33@[removed]; posted to the
[Old-Time Radio Mailing List] under the subject of
"why mp3 or even wav?":

 > A format that I personally use is [removed] Flac
 > is basically a zipped wav file.

I wondered how long it would be before someone came
out with that!

But what you might NOT be aware of is that WinZip [removed]
now uses a special compression algorithm for WAV files,
called WAVPACK, which is REALLY GOOD. It is lossless,
created especially for WAV files, and gives astonishing
compression! I anticipate that MP3's will eventually
give way to WAVPACK encoded files!   :)

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:32:59 -0400
From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Natural Bridge Show

jack and cathy french wrote:

"The Natural Bridge Show (a 15 minute variety program sponsored by
Natural Bridge Shoe Company) specified that the male lead be called
"Nat" and the female lead "Bridget." "

The show, which I never heard of, started me thinking about the remarks. This
show was probably from St. Louis Mo. Why I'll tell you. I don't think anyone
cares, but it adds to sponsor getting all they can for their dollar. "Natural
Bridge" is the name of very busy street in [removed] Thus Naturalizer shoe.
(1927).Brown Show also made a brand of shoe called "Naturalizer"

 The Brown Show Company is an Old St Louis firm.( My Wife's Uncle was a VP")
They made Buster Brown children s shows. and sponsored "Smilin' Ed's Buster
Brown Gang' Buster Brown shoes was the [removed] Star was Ed [removed]
real Trivia.

Frank McGurn

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:09:23 -0400
From: Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  BBC Sherlock Holmes mp3
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I was wondering if anyone in the group has the Clive Merrison Sherlock Holmes
series in mp3 format and is willing to sell a copy? If you have please
contact me off the board.

  I was also wondering if there was any BBC otr radio history on "The Saint".
I know of the [removed] version with Vincent Price.

  Allen

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