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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 369

Table Of Contents: 

	 Re: Patsy Montana
	 Re: Jean Shepherd, John Dunning, Sherlock Holmes
	 very left handedy
	 The handicapped
	 Forsythe Saga
	 Quiz Kids Mysteries?
	 Shadow episodes
	 Re: .Whiz kids
	 Re: Dick Lupoff on Chris Steinbrunner & Jean Sheppard
	 Re: THE SHADOW - "THE PHANTOM OF THE SKYSCRAPER"
	 Re: Net/Web address compilation.
	 Val Kilmer and The Saint
	 @ the FOTR Con
	 Senator Leghorn
	 Re:  BigKids, etc.
	 Whiz Kids
	 How toUnsubcribe from List/E-Mail Change
	 cassettes

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:25:57 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Patsy Montana
Message-ID: <961003082557_117305329@[removed]>

Amazingly the current Nashville establishment remembered long-time WLS
National Barndance favorite, Patsy Montana, and inducted her last night into
the Country Music Hall of Fame. Sadly she just died this year and missed the
honor. Patsy was famous for being the first female country singer to sell a
million copies. He record was "I Want to Be A Cowboy's Sweetheart." She was
heard on the NBC Alka Seltzer show, and started on the program with the
Prairie Ramblers.

BILL KNOWLTON: "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE", WCNY-FM, SYRACUSE, UTICA, WATERTOWN
(sincce 1973)

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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 13:01:46 GMT
From: fisherf@[removed] (Francis Fisher)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Jean Shepherd, John Dunning, Sherlock Holmes
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Thu, 3 Oct 96 06:44 CDT, Bigkids@[removed] wrote:

> Sunday night I would head back for New York, listening to Jean Shepherd on
> WOR all the way. He was great. Well, and when he went off, he was followed by
> 
> Some time after this I met and became fast friends with Chris Steinbrunner,
> who worked for WOR (and WOR-TV), and who wrote scripts for Shepherd. At
> least, he claimed that he did.
> 
> I was shocked, I say, shocked. First, that Shepherd used scripts at all.

I'd hope you'd cut Shep a little slack and consider the amount of material he
needed to support his broadcasts. Like all of the other greats in the business,
he'd just have to have help. 

I have seen him work in a radio studio. He was a regular guest of Long John
Nebel when John was at WNBC. (The two were friends and had worked together at
WOR.) This was radio and Shep could have pulled out a script and no one would
have said a word -- but he never did. What a great story teller he was, but I
just think that all or nearly all of the greats in the business use writers to
develop their material and then they practice until they can perform on the
level that they do.

For the benefit of those who aren't familiar with Jean's works, I remember one
of these stories. It was probably a 45 minute bit about the milling on West
Ninth St in the Village. Jean said that he had a reason, on his radio program,
to call for a milling on Ninth St. where he lived. So, on-air, he asked that
everyone who could hear his voice to please proceed to that block and to begin
milling in the streets right after the program. Well, the people responded. By
the thousands they milled on West Ninth St between 5th and 6th. Soon the police
arrived ready for action because here were thousands of New Yorkers and they
knew the sorts of things this could lead to. Hmmm. But the people milling had
their instructions to mill silently and to create no disturbance and to then
disband at a certain time. This they did and the police had no grounds to do
anything and the affair wound up as another great New York City experience.

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:06:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: very left handedy
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
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> Someone asked about the Grammy for "Sing Along with Jonathan and Darlene
> Edwards" by Paul Weston and Jo Stafford (his wife). That was the only
> Grammy Weston won.
> 
> [stuff deleted]
> 
> Imagine my surprise when the songs began sort of [removed] but then got
> increasingly off-key in the singing and the piano was less than inspired. I
> then carefully read the liner notes and realized I had been had, along with
> my audience. The album became one of my favorites and I still have it in my
> vinyl collection.
 

I'm curious if this could be the same record a former roomate
bought in LP format years ago.  He got it because something
about the album cover bothered him and he couldn't figure out
what.

We listened to the music, which was much like what was described
above, while I looked over the cover.  The guy playing the piano
had 2 left hands.  I've been watching for some mention of this to
see if it's the same one.  Has anyone looked at the album cover?

Barry

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Kinsler <kinsler@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: alanset@[removed]
Subject: The handicapped
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

There was a radio series about a blind detective.  I heard one episode, 
and it worked pretty well.  I don't recall the name of the series, though.  
                                  Mark Kinsler
                                   

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:17:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Forsythe Saga
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Some time back, someone on this list asked for a copy
of the Forsythe Saga tapes.  At that time my tape deck
was broken and I couldn't make copies, but I told them
I would let them know when I got it fixed.  Then I seem
to have forgotten all about it.

I remembered yesterday when I came across the box of tapes
but I can't find where I put the name/address of the person
that requested them.

Would that person raise your hand, and also send me an email
so we can make arrangements to get them to you.

Also, a question for anyone who has some knowledge of the
BBC radio broadcasts.  There are incidents in these tapes
that are purely visual.  Scenes that just simply can't be
understood.  Are these in fact TV broadcasts?  I've noticed
this with both The Forsythe Saga and with the Tolkien tapes,
both from Minds Eye and both labeled as radio broadcasts.

The Forsythe Saga story isn't at all effected by this, but
it is disconcerting.

In the Lord of the Rings, there was a ruckus with everyone
screaming and several people killed that changed the direction
of the story, and there wasn't the slightest clue as to what
happened or who the protagonists might have been, even after
re-listening to that tape.  What gives?

Barry

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:30:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kathy O'Connell" <oconnell@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Quiz Kids Mysteries?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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A few years ago, while trolling through used bookstores in rural 
Virginia, I came across a copy of a kids' book about the Quiz Kids.  It 
was a Bobbsey Twins type mystery book.  
Of course, I picked it up for a couple of dollars, and I've put it on a 
shelf somewhere.
What I want to know is if this book was part of a series, and does anyone 
know about other spin-off books from radio shows?

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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 10:39:05 -0400
From: Michael Psarakis <[removed]@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shadow episodes
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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One correction:  The Shadow episode where he is
trapped in a tomb filled with water is entitled "Society
of the Living Dead", a classic.  I would say that 10 of
the best Shadow shows I've heard (and I think I've
heard all the ones that are available) are as follows:

The White Legion 
Society of the Living Dead
Death From the Deep
League of Terror
Sabotage by Air
The Night Marauders
The Green Man
The Curse of Shiva
The Nursery Rhyme Murders
They Kill With a Silver Hatchet.

One small aside : All that criticism of the CBS Radio
Mystery Theatre is nonsense.  CBSRMT did not have the
luxury of major movie stars, a 30-minute format and a
weekly airing such as Suspense and Inner Sanctum.  I
maintain that CBSRMT holds up against anything OTR
has to offer.  Of course, like One Man's Family, this is
only One Man's Opinion.   

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:04:51 -0400
From: Joelsiegel@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: .Whiz kids
Message-ID: <961003110451_117401277@[removed]>

actually the whiz kids were the 1950 philadelphia phillies who beat the
dodgers (who really were in brooklyn back then) for the national league
pennant. robin roberts, richie ashburn, et. al.

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:17:50 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Dick Lupoff on Chris Steinbrunner & Jean Sheppard
Message-ID: <961003111749_201107656@[removed]>

I think the radio talk show Dick Lupoff was recalling was Long John Nebel's.
 He featured a lot of UFO and supernatural experts as guests including Donald
Keyhoe and Walter B. Gibson.  I've seen some of his shows on dealer lists.
 In later years, Long John shared his show with his wife, Candy Jones (who
continued the show for a while after his death).  FOTR committee member Lee
Munsick worked for Keyhoe and also assisted Long John on the WOR show for a
while. -- Anthony Tollin

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:22:58 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: THE SHADOW - "THE PHANTOM OF THE SKYSCRAPER"
Message-ID: <961003112257_201110725@[removed]>

Does anyone out ther have the 11-14-43 SHADOW broadcast, "The Phantom of the
Skyscraper"?  I'm missing it though I understand it's recently been
circulating.  Does anyone have any other newly circulating SHADOWS? --
ANTHONY TOLLIN 

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Date: Thu, Oct 3 1996 11:37:33 EDT
From: Thomas Heathwood <theathwo@[removed]>
To: <[removed]@[removed]>, Thomas Heathwood <theathwo@[removed]>
Subject: Re: Net/Web address compilation.
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Thanks to John Rayburn who picked up on my idea to proliferate the
available web sites and net addresses of interest.
Certainly giving our own, and others we have found of interest including
OTR radio re-broadcasts on the web would be a great start. If everyone
does this for the next week or so, incidental to their regular postings,
we could assemble quite a list in a short time. Maybe someone would even
take it the final step, and compile under category and alphabetize the
listings.
TOM HEATHWOOD / HERITAGE RADIO CLASSICS / HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE
    YESTERDAY-USA SATELLITE RADIO SUPERSTATION (Network):
EMAIL:   1) theathwo@[removed]     2) HERITAGE4@[removed]
WEBSITE: [removed]
FAX:     (617) 965-9984
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:52:59 -0400
From: c holm <cbholm@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Val Kilmer and The Saint
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Last night I saw Val Kilmer on Letterman.  He was talking about working on a
movie version of The Saint.  However, I tuned in to the end of the thought,
and didn't get all the information.  Does anyone know if this is a future
project, or is has the movie already been out?  Any info?

Chris

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 16:31:32 UT
From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Cc: jayhick@[removed]
Subject: @ the FOTR Con
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In OTR #365 Jim Widner asks:
 Will we all identify ourselves by wearing some kind of badge such as the
suggested  @?
Someone else had suggested wearing micro-chips, unfortunately, I don't have 
any spare ones laying around the house ;)  SO, I would like to volunteer to 
make up some stickers with the @ symbol and get them to Jay or someone in 
charge (?) MY QUESTION: what size would be best ? how about something small 
enough to go right on the badges themselves? I've got an ink-jet [removed]
Any suggestions? (I'll hit the local Staples this weekend)
Jay, is this alright with you and the committee?

Bruce

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 16:55:00 UT
From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Senator Leghorn
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

In OTR 364 Sam Levine mentions the similarities in the voices of Senator 
Claghorn and Foghorn Leghorn. Then in OTR Chet Cox refers to the voice of 
Foggy as borrowed from Kenny Delmar's Senator Claghorn.
While I tend to agree with Chet, it should be noted that Mr. Blanc, in his 
autobiography, "That's Not All Folks," claims that his voice was actually 
inspired by a vaudeville actor he heard in his twenties. He also mentions that 
it is possible that Mr. Delmar got his voice from the cartoon, as both 
characters premiered the same year. (Sacrilege!) 
Three things that really bother me about his story:
1. It comes from a man that Contracturally excluded anyone else getting a 
voice credit in a WB cartoon.
2. I guess it's possible that they both came up with the voice at the same 
time, but if that's true why is there also such a similarity in the characters 
names?
3. WB is notorious for "borrowing" radio voices
Food for [removed] (and discussion!)

Bruce

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:18:06 -0400
From: OTRDSIEGEL@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:  BigKids, etc.
Message-ID: <961003131805_324005157@[removed]>

  In the last digest BigKids wondered about: The survival of any of the
Fordham Un. SHERLOCK HOLMES radio presentations. I have at least two of them
(45 min. each, I think). There was also a question about a late night radio
broadcaster from NYC. I suspect that it is LONG JOHN NEBEL, he was thinking
of. I have several of his programs on tape, as well.   Finally, another
subscriber inquired about handicapped folks on otr. Lionel Barrymore brought
his Dr. Gillespie character to radio on the DR. KILDARE programs, many of
which dealt with handicaping situations.   Dave Siegel

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:36:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: rsheldon@[removed] (robert sheldon)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Whiz Kids
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text
Content-Length:        214

I won't say this is the last word on the subject or that it is the 
earliest known use of the term in history, but i remember the 'whiz 
kids" as the 1949 Philadelphia Phillies, when Richie Ashburn was a 
rookie. 

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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 16:59:21 -0400
From: David Van Nostrand <davetv5@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: How toUnsubcribe from List/E-Mail Change
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi

Could someone outthere forward me info on how to subscribe and
unsubscribe.  I am 
changing my e-mail address and need help.


thanks

dave

davetv5@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:06:46 -0400
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: cassettes
Message-ID: <961003180646_536214787@[removed]>

OK, so many some people *do* like taking apart cassettes.
What I meant was all *radio show* cassettes are readily [removed]
course there are exceptions & special [removed] the same logic with radio
shows that we use with computers should apply if you are unsure of the
[removed]  back it up by making an extra copy!

As for me, my OTR cassette masters are all cleaned up versions of reel to
reel recordings.  With whatever cassettes I have for personal use--non-OTR,
they are convenience copies of either CD's or LP's.  I never bought a
pre-recorded cassette from a music store.  The early pre-recorded cassettes
were pretty bad sound quality--especially before Dolby and better tape
formulations of today.

-Bob Burnham; BRC Productions; Platecap@[removed]




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