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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 458

Table Of Contents: 

	 Counterspy
	 Peter Leeds
	 Our Miss Brooks movie
	 Peter Leeds
	 The Cold Equations
	 Cassette Decks--Suggestion
	 Re: NOSTALGIA TV
	 Sound Effects on OTR
	 Cassette Storage, Henry Morgan, Halls Of Ivy
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:53:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steve Lewis, CCSU" <LEWIS@[removed]>
To:   [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Counterspy
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi.

I was just listening to a two-parter episode of COUNTERSPY, a story called 
"The Case of the Fabulous Fake" (April 18th and 20th, 1950).

What struck me as extraordinarily unusual was a scene that had David 
Harding's assistant ask his boss if he wanted a bite to eat.  "No, thanks, 
Peters, but what I could use is an ice-cold Pepsi."  Much clanking of 
bottles and glasses, and maybe even a sigh of satisfaction, then on with 
the show.

I know that in radio comedies there was often a strong overlapping between 
show and commercial -- did I forget to mention who the sponsor of 
COUNTERSPY was at the time? -- but this is the first time I've noticed 
anything like this in a mystery or adventure drama.  Unless you count the many 
premiums the kids' shows wove into some of their adventures.

Can anyone else recall something like this happening?  Did Sam Spade use 
Wildroot?  Did Joe Friday ever smoke Fatimas (or Chesterfields)?  Did Mr. 
Keen use Kolynos?

Do you even know what Kolynos is (was)?

							Steve

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:13:43 -0600
From: Joe Oliver <joliver@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Peter Leeds
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        The newspaper which I read--The Houston Chronicle--carried a story
of the death of Peter Leeds on Nov. 23.  He died Nov. 12 at age 79.

        We know him  as the great radio actor who appeared regularly on
almost every west coast series from the 1940s forward.  FBI, Dragnet,
Nightbeat,....all of them.  He was straight man for Freberg on the great CBS
shows and the hit Capital records.  He appeared on the last Freberg CD
issued, United States of America, Vol. II.  A wonderful voice up to the end.

        It's regretable that this great actor was not credited for any of
otr his radio work in the published obituary I read.  Five paragraphs; it
lead with mentioning Leeds played play straight man to Bob Hope, Mickey
Rooney and Johnny Carson.  It ended with a notation that he appeared in the
film "Ma and Pa Kettle Go to Town".

        It's a shame and it's a shame.


                                                 Joe Oliver

W. Joseph Oliver
Department of Communication
Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, TX  75962

     (409-468-4001)

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:17:34 -0500
From: Neubacher@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Our Miss Brooks movie
Message-ID: <961125231732_354661969@[removed]>

In a message dated 96-11-25 21:36:31 EST, you write:

<< "Our Miss Brooks" the movie will be on Cinemax on Friday. 
 >>
     This movie was on one of he other premium channels several years ago,
probably the Disney channel.  All the regular TV and radio personalities :
Gale Gorden, Dick Crenna, and Bob Rockwell were in the movie.  The big
difference in the end Eve Arden got her man, which she never did in either
the radio or TV series.

Bill Neubacher
NEUBACHER@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:31:02 -0600
From: Joe Oliver <joliver@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Peter Leeds
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        The newspaper which I read--The Houston Chronicle--carried a story
of the death of Peter Leeds on Nov. 23.  He died Nov. 12 at age 79.

        We know him  as the great radio actor who appeared regularly on
almost every west coast series from the 1940s forward.  FBI, Dragnet,
Nightbeat,....all of them.  He was straight man for Freberg on the great CBS
shows and the hit Capital records.  He appeared on the last Freberg CD
issued, United States of America, Vol. II.  A wonderful voice up to the end.

        It's regretable that this great actor was not credited for any of
otr his radio work in the published obituary I read.  Five paragraphs; it
lead with mentioning Leeds played play straight man to Bob Hope, Mickey
Rooney and Johnny Carson.  It ended with a notation that he appeared in the
film "Ma and Pa Kettle Go to Town".

        It's a shame and it's a shame.


                                                 Joe Oliver

W. Joseph Oliver
Department of Communication
Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, TX  75962

     (409-468-4001)

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:34:28 -0500 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Cold Equations
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> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:16:04 -0700
> From: aerickse@[removed] (Anna Ericksen)
> To: [removed]@[removed]
> Subject: SCI-FI Channel "Cold Equations"
> Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just wanted to pass the word that the SCI-FI Channel will be doing a SCI-FI
> original movie called "Cold Equations". I think around the 14th or 15th of
> DEC (check the SCI-FI web site).  X-Minus One did a show by this same title
> and yes it is the same theme in the movie.  This is a CLASSIC OTR show and
> one of my favorites. Does this count as a show going from radio to TV?

No because both are adaptations of a classic short story of the same name
by Tom Godwin, which first appeared in Astounding Science Fiction in 1954. 

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:47:05 -0800
From: Jim Votisek <votisek@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Decks--Suggestion
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Hey Bruce,
I have been working in retail sales for the last two years and selling 
consumer high end electronics.  In my personal opinion I have found SONY 
to be a real good life-long product.  They seem to handle well with a lot 
of copying.  Price wise:  No matter what do not spend more than $250 for 
this unit.  There are a bunch of different models.  Also, most companies 
offer Service Contracts or something equivalent to it.  I recommend them. 
They tend to cover things like wear'n'tear such as the problem you had 
with your deck.  
One side note on the contracts.  Be careful and read the fine print.  As 
far as what the manufacturer covers they usually just cover defects.  I 
had a bad experience with SONY's service people(but that doesn't mean 
they do not put out good products).
Hope this helps!  
Any other questions please feel free to write me an e-mail message at 
votisek@[removed]  By the way, you may benefit by looking at the 
consumer reports, SONY is on top!

Good Luck!  

Well were a little late [removed] Folks!

Matt Votisek

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:11:04 -0800
From: Dick Lochte <dlock@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: NOSTALGIA TV
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At the risk of continuing a non OTR subjet, I've been surprised by all
the complaints about an absence of OTTV on the tube.  What about TV
LAND?  It's an old TV feast. Mannix. Cannon. Burke's Law. Nero Wolfe.
Honey West. Plus old half-hour b/w Gunsmokes. Dick Powell Theater.  Sam
Peckinpah's The Westerner. Have Gun.  Trackdown. Shane. Ed Sullivan.  
For a while they were showing The Rogues. They've also come up with
"specials," like a series of James Dean shows from the 50s. Nothing else
on tv or cable quite compares.

Dick Lochte

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Date: 26 Nov 1996 03:40:31 GMT
From: kg@[removed] (KEN GREENWALD)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sound Effects on OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hello, Everyone!
JACK WEBB AND DRAGNET:
Let's put aside Webb's political conservatism for a moment and look 
at how he was inovative in the field of sound effects: Once DRAGNET 
was established as a successful radio show, Webb and his sound 
effects men came up with a way to record SND EFX in a new way. 
How? By actually taking a tape recorder AND the actors to real 
locations as they portrayed their characters. Here are just two 
examples of how Webb recorded some sound effects with actors 
doing their work -- in one show Friday and his pal were walking 
through city hall as they discussed a case. Using portable equipment, 
Webb and Barton Yarborough actually walked down a hall in [removed] 
City Hall, recording their dialog as they walked. The effect of the 
actual echo and space of the hall came through and added the 
necessary realism. Another case was when (in another episode) a 
woman was standing on a ledge ready to commit suicide by jumping. 
Webb and his sound effects men moved outside by a buidling with 
the mike placed by Webb and the accompaning officers. The actress 
was placed in a window above where Webb stood (on the second 
floor). They ran the scene this way, with Webb having to yell up at 
the woman as she yelled down at Webb. The effect was total realism. 
Of course, proper distances and mike levels were ascertained before 
the actual recording of the scenes. These scenes were then cut into 
the rest of the show, in their proper place. The body of the show was 
recorded in studio. With everything edited properly on tape, the 
realism was uncanny. It was Webb who came up with this idea and it 
seems he was the only one who successful made it work to the 
betterment of the episodes. He did this kind of thing in many of his 
radio broadcasts. The network first objected to taking the 
actors/actresses outside of the studio, but were impressed and 
finally convinced that Webb certainly knew what he was doing!

THREE SKELETON KEY:  (Yes, that's the proper way to spell the name 
of the show on ESCAPE! - NOT Three Skeleton Quay) Jack Sixsmith 
used to come down to the PPB radio archives. He did the Snd Efx, 
along with Cliff Thorseness and Gus Bayz for 3SK. He once told me 
how they got the effect of the thousands of rats: The three men were 
trying to figure out a way to get the sound of all those rats. They had 
a hard time of it. Experimenting with different materials they finally 
found out how to do it --- they burned the ends of cork thermos 
bottle stoppers and twisted them on plate glass. It made a haunting 
kind of "squeak" sound. All three men did this to get the effect of as 
many rats as possible. But it wasn't enough. Tape recorders were 
already available, so they simply redubbed and redubbed the 
original sound until they had the sound of thousands of rats! Viola! 
An effects problem was solved and we, the listeners, could feel chills 
run up our spines at the thought of 3 men trapped in a lighthouse 
watching and listening to all those rats desperately trying to get in 
and have supper!

THE KNX DRAMA HOUR: In Los Angeles, radio station KNX-AM has 
been playing an hour of OTR radio drama for years in the 9pm time 
slot. Every week a rating is taken to see what programs  have the 
highest ratings. To everyones surprise, the KNX Radio Drama Hour 
consistently gets the highest rating each and every time! Now, here's 
the sad part: Even though every other radio station in LA knows this, 
they all refuse to play any old time radio! I knew, because I tried to 
get other stations interested in playing OTR and they constantly 
refuse. Their reason? They are panic-stricken at the idea that 
anything over three minutes in length will loose them money 
because they cannot play one or more commercials every 3 to 5 
minute segment! Is it any wonder that radio drama is dead on the 
one medium that invented radio drama?
Then where has radio drama gone? To the cassette medium. I've 
researched this and found that most people will obtain radio shows, 
new and old, to be played during prime time driving (8-10 am 
driving to work, 3-6pm, driving home), and when taking a vacation 
by car. 
Ken Greenwald

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:21:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cassette Storage, Henry Morgan, Halls Of Ivy
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Hello All,

        I know this has been discussed here before, but I can't seem to find
those old digests quickly. I recently moved and I pulled about 1000
cassettes out of a storage facility I had. They were all stored in a couple
of large boxes since I would need to access them very often. Now that I plan
to use them and perhaps do some trading I need to organize them in a beter
manner. Preferably in a single layer that I can number and find what I need
easily. Any suggestions posted to the digest or to me by email would be
appreciated.

NEW TOPIC:

        At the FOTR convention last month I picked up a lot of old reels
from Jack Shug(sp?) and one which was mislabeled had a few odd items on it.
Including Henry Morgan guest hosting for Brad Crandall on WNBC in 1965 or
1966. The car commercials on the program are for the "new 1966 models".
        Also included were a few 1959 Henry Morgan shows from WBAI. Anyone
have more information on this show? Jay Hickerson's book does not mention a
show by Morgan after 1950. I have three, but no specific dates or anything
else was listed.
        Another item on this reel was a parody called THIS HERE IS YOUR LIFE
SHERLOCK HOLMES featuring Daws Butler and Ben Wright. The writing on the
card was very messy, does anyone have a date or more detailed information on
this program?
        
THE HALLS OF IVY is a favorite of mine, all the books say that it was
written especially for Ronald and Benita Colman, but I could swear I have an
interview somewhere with Gale Gordon where he stated that he and Bea
Benedaret did the audition for the program and it was given to the Colman's
because of their name recognition. Does this sound familiar to anyone else
or am I making this up? If it's true did the audition program ever turn up?


Tom

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 96 10:04:45 CST
From: dye@[removed] (Ken R. Dye )
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: remove
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