Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #375
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Date: 11/24/2004 5:43 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 375
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Rochester                             [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  Rochester                             [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Heritage Radio Theatre Schedule       [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
  Rochester                             [ "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback ]
  Move ad voice overs                   [ Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed] ]
  The Whistler                          [ Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@earthlin ]
  Sammy Kaye                            [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
  JODY GILBERT                          [ StuartLubin@[removed] (Stuart Lubin ]
  11-24 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  WTIC - Golden Age of Radio - new Web  [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
  Brent Pellegrini comment              [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
  Computer Generated MP3's              [ "Tom van der Voort" <evander800@ver ]
  Benny-Allen feud                      [ JackBenny@[removed] ]

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:41:05 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Rochester

Ken Dahl writes:

I have a question that I hope someone can answer.  (Laura Leff  are you 
there?)  
 
I [removed] say somebody knocked!
 
My question is about the way Rochester was "treated".   Let
me explain.  On a number of Jack's radio programs in the 40's  and 50's he
would promote his upcoming stage show that would be touring  primarily 
eastern
cities (Cleveland, Chicago, New York etc.)  Jack  would bring many of his 
cast
members, including Rochester, on these  tours.  On arrival in these cities,
was Rochester able to stay at  the same hotels that the other cast members
stayed?  He was a black  entertainer and those times were not the best when 
it
came to the  treatment of minorities.  Did he have to seek out his own hotel
and  dining accommodations because of discrimination?  Please tell me he  
was
treated as an equal with the respect and dignity that everyone  deserves.

I'm proud to say that the cast would only stay at hotels where  Rochester was 
treated as an equal and respected guest.  There is at least  one incident 
where Hilliard Marks, upon being informed by the hotel manager that  Rochester 
would not be staying at a given establishment, responded, "And neither  will the 
rest of us."  The entire cast, crew, and entourage moved within  hours.
 
I think Jack's attitude on race is well expressed in a story told to me by  
Larry Adler (direct transcription from our newsletter):
 
"We did a show in Bengali (sp?), and there was a sandstorm that blew in our 
faces and we were deathly ill, and they took us to a Red Cross spot afterwards 
and gave us some coffee which didn't help all that much. An attendant with 
a very southern accent came over and said, "Hiya Ja-yack," and he sat down 
without being asked and said, "Jack, why don't you bring Rochester with you?"
That could have been a little trouble, and Jack said, "Well, he had things 
to do in the States, so he couldn't come with us." "Well, Jack, we listen 
to you every Sunday, but the highlight of your show, your main asset is 
Rochester. We love Rochester. I sure do, Mr. Benny." Jack said, "Well, if he 
was here at our show, he'd be sitting here at this table and you wouldn't be 
sitting with him. What about that?" "Now just a minute, Mr. Benny, I'm 
from the South." Jack said, "That's why I didn't bring Rochester.""

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:41:28 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Rochester

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:59:28 -0500
From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed];

 On arrival in these cities, was Rochester able to stay at the same hotels
that the other cast members stayed?  

I'm going from memory here, but I believe that Irving Fein, in his book on Jack, said that Jack 
insisted on it and would pull his entire troup out of any hotel that wouldn't allow Rochester to 
stay there.  Despite the social situation of those days, Jack was a pretty big star, and he 
probably had a lot of people staying in a hotel at one time.

-- A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed] 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed] Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:41:40 -0500 From: HERITAGE4@[removed] To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: Heritage Radio Theatre Schedule X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Hi - Here's our program lineup for this week (thru Saturday) HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE on The Olde Tyme Radio Network at: [removed] 1. AMOS AND ANDY CBS 11/20/40 "The Thanksgiving Turkey" 2. FATHER KNOWS BEST NBC 11/23/50 "Thanksgiving At Home" 3. LUM AND ABNER ABC 11/22/45 "Thanksgiving Dinner. Happy Thanksgiving ! Tom Heathwood *** This message was altered by the server, and may not appear *** *** as the sender intended. *** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:10 -0500 From: "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback@[removed]; To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: Rochester Ken Dahl:
Did he have to seek out his own hotel
and dining accommodations because of discrimination?

I believe in the north he could have stayed in the same hotel.  In the south
it would have been a definite no-no.

  - Philip

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:27 -0500
From: Steve Salaba <philmfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Move ad voice overs

Thanks to MICHAEL BIEL for his info on "Norman Rose and others". This leads
me to ask - is there a book or any reference to who did the voice overs for
various movie trailers? I seem to recall hearing the same voice on, for
example, the trailers for those Disney live-action comedies of the 60's. I
always wondered whose dulcet tones I was listening to. The movie trailers
these days rarely have any voice overs anymore.

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:04:42 -0500
From: Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Whistler

on 11/23/04 7:54 AM, [removed]@[removed] at
[removed]@[removed] wrote:

Was there another Whistler series that isn't recognized by the hobby?  Are
these shows incorrectly dated and numbered?  Although I am quite confused,
I'll bet there is a simple answer.  I'm just hoping that someone can supply
it.

***Well, it doesn't pertain to your problem with the early shows, but there
was a separate "Intercontinental" 26-episode summer series sponsored by
Household Finance that aired concurrently with Signal's West Coast series in
1948.  This national version was directed by William N. Robson and starred
Bill Johnstone as The Whistler.  I have only two of the episodes from this
run and would like to obtain more. --Anthony Tollin***

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:25:12 -0500
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sammy Kaye

I am not sure whether I actually posted this or not so I will send it and
you can ignore it if I had already done so.

I enjoyed Bob Unterreiner's story about the big bands. However I would
like to make a correction. As I recall, my friend Sammy Kaye graduated
from Ohio University, not Ohio State. Two different colleges. Another
strange thing was that his degree was not in electrical engineering even
though he had invented and held a patent on an electronic vibrato device.
He wanted to use it to create an "organ" effect during his CBS remote
broadcasts for the "Kaye Choir" from the Commodore Hotel. My friend from
Cleveland, the  Chief engineer at WTAM  (NBC O&O)  suggested that Sam
contact me. However the brother of the CBS engineer in charge of
development was trying to develop the same idea so the whole deal fell
through. Too bad as it was an excellent idea. By the way Sam came from a
Polish family from the south side of Cleveland. Their full last name
started with a "K".

Bill Murtough

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:51:22 -0500
From: StuartLubin@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  JODY GILBERT

I am so thankful to Richard Pratz for providing information on actress
Jody Gilbert and also to OTR Digest for being the "messenger" of this
information, which I was unable to obtain elsewhere. In my
unprofessional research, I have run into confusion between her and
another actress at that time, Jo Gilbert; and I have Barbara Fuller to
thank for distinguishing the two for me.

One slight error that Richard made:  It was not [removed] Naish who
called "Rosa! Oh Rosa!" It was Alan Reed, Pasquale, Rosa's  father, who
did the calling, to try to match his daughter up with Luigi (Naish).
Luigi spent his time getting away from Rosa.

I saw that show only once, and it is a faint memory, not like the other
shows I would see.  I am not an expert. I have a question that may never
get answered:  At least as I remember from that one show, whose date I
never wrote down: When called by Alan Reed, Jody Gilbert came on mic
from off-stage. Now, years later, with so many amateur radio
re-creations under my belt, I wonder if she was kept off stage until the
very last moment so as not to hear the audience laugh (at her
appearance) until she actually delivered the first line. I can only
guess at this, but if so, Cy Howard, smart direction, although a bit
cruel to Jody.

Stuart Lubin

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:52:12 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-24 births/deaths

November 24th births

11-24-1888 - Cathleen Nesbitt - Belfast, Northern Ireland - d. 8-2-1982
actress: "Philco Radio Playhouse"
11-24-1900 - Ireene Wicker - Quincy, IL - d. 11-17-1987
actress: (The Singing Lady) Sylvia Bertram "Road of Life"; Eileen Moran
"Today's Children"
11-24-1905 - Harry Barris - NYC (R: Denver, CO) - d. 12-13-1962
singer (member of The Rhythm Boys) "Paul Whiteman Presents"
11-24-1906 - Don McLaughlin - Webster, IA - d. 5-28-1986
actor: David Harding "Counterspy"; "Jim Brent "Road of Life"; Chaplain Jim
"Chaplain Jim"
11-24-1910 - Pegeen Fitzgerald - Norcatur, KS - d. 1-30-1989
host: "The Fitzgeralds"
11-24-1912 - Garson Kanin - Rochester, NY - d. 3-13-1999
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-24-1912 - Teddy Wilson - Austin, TX - d. 7-31-1986
jazz pianist: "Benny Goodman and His Orchestra"; "Saturday Night Swing Club"
11-24-1913 - Geraldine Fitzgerald - Dublin, Ireland
actress: "Arthur Hopkins Presents"; "Ford Theatre"; "Cavalcade of America"
11-24-1927 - Eileen Barton - Brooklyn, NY
singer: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "Eileen Barton Show"; "MGM Musical Comedy
Theatre"

November 24th deaths

01-17-1914 - Howard Marion-Crawford - England - d. 11-24-1669
actor: Sherlock Holmes "BBC Home Theatre"
02-16-1909 - Jeffrey Lynn - Auburn, MA - d. 11-24-1995
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Hallmark Playhouse:' "MGM Theatre of the Air"
04-23-1921 - Warren Spahn - Buffalo, NY - d. 11-24-2003
hall of fame pitcher: "Tops in Sports"
05-06-1908 - Parkyakarkus (Harry Einstein) - Boston, MA - d. 11-24-1958
comedian: "Eddie Cantor Show"; "Al Jolson Show"; "Meet Me at Parkys"
06-02-1879 - Florence Edney - London, England - d. 11-24-1950
actress: Aunt Maizie "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
07-11-1888 - Dr. Lyman Bryson - Valentine, NE - d. 11-24-1959
moderator: "American School of the Air"; "Invitation to Learning"; "People's
Platform"
08-02-1902 - Guy Repp - d. 11-24-1986
actor: Dr. Abernathy "County Seat"; Benito Mussoline "Our Secret Weapon"
09-26-1895 - George Raft - NYC - d. 11-24-1980
actor: Rocky Jordan "Rocky Jordan"
12-23-1893 - Anne O'Neal - St. Louis, MO - d. 11-24-1971
actress: Cynthia Veryberry "Grapevine Rancho"
12-24-1895 - Ruth Chatterton - NYC - d. 11-24-1961
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:53:22 -0500
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WTIC - Golden Age of Radio - new Website

I'm happy to announce that we have a new website for
WTIC's "Golden Age of Radio" with Dick Bertel and Ed
Corcoran.

Thanks to Dan Hughes who gave me some ideas on
how to improve on what I had set up, the new URL is

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As you may know, in the 1970's Dick Bertel created the
program for WTIC in Hartford, CT. The idea came  to
Dick after he interviewed radio collector-historian Ed
Corcoran a few times. It was  first broadcast in April,
1970; Ed was his co-host.

For the next seven years the program featured interviews
with radio actors, writers, producers, engineers and
musicians from radio's early days. In addition, each
show featured excerpts from Ed's collection. Some of
the guests included Alexander Scourby, Mel Blanc,
William Spier, Goodman Ace, Mary Jane Higby, and
many others.

Dick and I have set up a website, which lists all 84 shows
in the series. In addition, there's a link where you can
listen to or download one of those shows every couple of
weeks. The current show, from May, 1970, features
Charles Harrell,  Eastern Program Director for the
NBC Blue and ABC Radio Networks.

Bob Scherago
Department of Redundancy Department
The Voice of America
Washington, DC

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:30:35 -0500
From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Brent Pellegrini comment

Hi,

In a recent posting, Mr. Pellegrini shared a bad memory of attending the
1989 SPERDVAC Convention.  He described my best friend Barbara Watkins as
someone who "wouldn't allow him to attend the convention".  Let me state
catagorically:IT WAS NOT BARBARA WATKINS!  Barbara would not and has not
ever barred anyone from attending a SPERDVAC activitiy.  If anything, she
would do whatever she could to make attendance as easy and  pleasant as
possible.  Barbara is (and has always been) a self-less and un-tiring
volunteer for SPERDVAC, and many other groups in the OTR hobby.   Some woman
may have told him he couldn't attend, but it certainly WAS NOT Barbara
Watkins.   Mr. Pellegrini obviously got the name wrong (though some of his
facts may be correct) and on behalf of SPERDVAC (I was a BOD member then), I
apologize for the agreeably "shabby" treatment he says he received.

Bobb

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:30:54 -0500
From: "Tom van der Voort" <evander800@[removed];
To: "old_time_radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Computer Generated MP3's
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

     A few weeks ago I asked for suggestions on players that could handle
computer generated MP3's.  Not wanting to clutter up the newsletter I
requested direct responses.
     Thanks to a recommendation by Tom Martin I ended up buying a used Rio
Volt SP100.  Just plugged it into my stereo system, and it works perfectly.
     Thought this information might be helpful to others with MP3 problems.
     Tom van der Voort

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:38:20 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Benny-Allen feud

Kenneth Clarke writes:

The members of this mailing list have probably
all heard  of the Fred Allen/Jack Benny feud.  What I
want to know is was  there an actual feud or was this
just a running gag the two comedians  devised?  This
is the only feud which, to my knowledge, was  ever
actively played out on the air.  Each would appear in
 guest spots on each others program, so it couldn't
have been too  vehement.

I should put this in our FAQ.  The "feud" between Jack and Fred Allen  was
purely for comedic effect.  Fred was one of the best comedy writers on  radio,
whereas Jack was one of the best editors on radio.  Both recognized  and
deeply
respected the other's talents, and the two were great friends  (although
living on opposite coasts).  Jack was tremendously aggrieved upon  Fred's
death,
and the depth of his grief can be heard on a brief tribute  recording he made
shortly after the news broke.

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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