Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #232
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Date: 7/15/2004 4:18 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 232
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      7-15 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Kitty                                 [ Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed]; ]
      Starring Jack Benny, With Phil Harri  [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
      Vic and Sade and the Air Adventures   [ "John Evans" <12np58@[removed]; ]
      Re: OTR shows on CD                   [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
      favorite fibber                       [ edward ginsburg <eddieginsburg@[removed] ]
      harris on benny tv                    [ edward ginsburg <eddieginsburg@[removed] ]
      Onion Skin                            [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      Re: My Arthur Godrey Experience       [ "barry" <barry@[removed]; ]
      VOA near Cincinnati                   [ "Mike Martini" <mmartini@[removed] ]
      7-16 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:53:24 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  7-15 births/deaths

    July 15th births

    07-15-1897 - Howard Lanin - Philadelphia, PA - d. 4-26-1991
    bandleader: "Ipana Troubadors"; "Benrus Ticksters"
    07-15-1900 - Helen Shields - Champaign, IL - d. 8-7-1963
    actress: Linda Dale "I Love Linda Dale"; Sylvia Meadows "Amanda of Honeymoon
    Hill"
    07-15-1919 - Eve McVeagh - OH - d. 12-10-1997
    actress: Harriet Beatty "Clyde Beatty Show"

    July 15th deaths

    01-23-1923 - Florence Halop - Jamaica Estates, NY - d. 7-15-1986
    actress: Hotbreath Houlihan "Jimmy Durante Show"; Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"
    02-02-1899 - Benny Rubin - Boston, MA - d. 7-15-1986
    comedian: Tout "Jack Benny Program"; "Benny Rubin Show"; "Benny Rubin's
    Whirligig Revue"
    07-08-1913 - Bill Thompson - Terre Haute, IN - d. 7-15-1971
    actor: Wallace Wimple, Horatio K Boomer and others "Fibber McGee and Molly"
    08-05-1914 - David Brian - NYC - d. 7-15-1993
    actor: Mr. District Attorney "Mr. District Attorney"
    09-15-1916 - Margaret Lockwood - Karachi, British India - d. 7-15-1990
    actress: "A Christmas Carol"
    11-16-1896 - Lawrence Tibbett - Bakersfield, CA - d. 7-15-1960
    singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Golden Voices"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:01:28 -0400
    From: Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kitty

    One more thing on Kitty. On the radio episode "Kitty's
    Outlaw", A stranger comes to town and Kitty seems to
    know this man. Later he robs the town bank and it
    seems that Kitty Russel is aiding him. Of course she
    wasn't but when she described her relationship with
    him to Matt she said, "He was the first man I ever
    knew." ( In the biblical sense of "knowing" some one
    meant a sexual relation) In the video version of the
    same episode the lane was deleted.
    Allen

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:02:33 -0400
    From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Starring Jack Benny, With Phil Harris, Bob
     Crosby, Abe Lyman, Your Rexall Druggist And Yours Truly, The American
     Tobacco Company

    JackBenny@[removed] notes that:

>     Strangely enough, I recently saw the show from  11-4-1951
>     with Dorothy Shay, and Bob Crosby walks out and sings a
>     song.   And this was almost a year before Bob Crosby
>     took over the orchestral duties  from Phil Harris on the
>     radio show.

    It wasn't so unusual. Bob "Yes, I'm His Brother" Crosby had a good working
    relationship with Jack going back to 1942, when he was the most frequent
    fill-in for Phil Harris during his aborted stint with the Merchant Marine
    and, along with Abe Lyman, often subbed for Phil at other times when either
    Harris had a commitment elsewhere or Phil could not escape another
    commitment in [removed] when the cast was on the road.

    By the fall of 1951, the regular show was generally, if not always,
    transcribed in advance of the broadcast. This meant that there was no longer
    any real reason to pay to transport the entire cast and crew back to New
    York when Jack had a telecast scheduled, just to put on the regular radio
    broadcast; it could simply be recorded in the same session as another
    broadcast the week before, or at a special session prior to Jack's
    departure.

    This also meant less friction between Harris and Rexall who , according to
    Jack's autobiography, had balked several times at having to move the
    Harris/Faye show's cast to New York on American Tobacco's orders. Though
    Harris was able to stay and do his show on a regular schedule, it also meant
    that he was no longer able to work on the live New York Benny telecasts. So,
    if Jack needed a bandleader for his TV show, he would have had to get the
    one with whom he felt most comfortable who was in the area. My guess is that
    Crosby was that guy.

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:02:48 -0400
    From: "John Evans" <12np58@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Vic and Sade and the Air Adventures of Jimmy
     Allen

    Well, I hope the list can help.  I've been trying to find good quality
    copies of Vic and Sade and the Air Adventures of Jimmy Allen on cd.  The
    typical MP3 compressions leave much to be desired--at least the ones I've
    heard.  Does anyone know a source for good quality copies of these two
    shows?

    Respectfully,
    John N. Evans
    12np58@[removed]

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:03:23 -0400
    From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: OTR shows on CD

    John DOrazio asked for a source of OTR on CD. Consider Satellite Media
    Production [removed]

    Although we don't do the MP3 thing, we do offer high quality shows on both
    CD and cassettes. For the last 2 years we have been transferring a number
    of programs directly from transcription discs. As a collector since 1952
    and a dealer since around 1971, I may be one of the oldest collectors of
    OTR as far as number of years collecting. And as a company, one of the
    earliest dealers.

    Fred

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:04:12 -0400
    From: edward ginsburg <eddieginsburg@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  favorite fibber

    would be most of the shows with Gildersleeve
    and Nick Dapaolous(sp?)

    I especially remember the gildy vs fibber feud where they acted like they
    were gonna box and they ended up playing a game of chess

    it was where I felt fibber truly earned that nasty yellow streak down his back

    eddie

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:04:48 -0400
    From: edward ginsburg <eddieginsburg@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  harris on benny tv

    phil was on one time

    he sang thats what i like about the south

    and he still called jack 'jackson'

    even though they had not appeared together since the early 50's

    this show was broadcast just a year or 2 before jack died in 74

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:58:04 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Onion Skin

> >     I'm amazed too, because ONLY AN IDIOT would type a script on
> >     onion skin paper!

>     Nonetheless, it *was* done, at least by some programs, for carbon-copy
>     purposes.

    I can understand using onion skin for carbon copies.  Well after the
    advent of photocopies, it was common to use onionskin for carbon copies,
    and I did so in my office well into the 1980s  -- actually, until the
    changeover to computers made carbon copies impossible.  But I can't
    understand using onion skin for scripts to be used on air.

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:07:46 -0400
    From: "barry" <barry@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: My Arthur Godrey Experience

    I received a private email from Lee Munsik asking for more information about
    the incident where my father saved Arthur Godfrey's wife's life.  I called
    my Dad to ask for more information and as soon as he realized that someone
    would be looking into this he remembered that it wasn't Godfrey's wife but
    someone else.

    I apologize for spreading a rumor.  I grew up believing that it was true.
    My father is an honest person but I guess this story grew because it was fun
    to tell and it got out of hand.

    Barry

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:08:16 -0400
    From: "Mike Martini" <mmartini@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  VOA near Cincinnati

    Hello,
    Thanks to the person who alerted the community about the "Ohio Magazine"
    article about the VOA Museum project near Cincinnati.  I've been out of this
    group for several months with computer problems and was heartened to come
    back and read the post.  The museum, once completed, will be quite
    interesting to many I'm sure.  The Gray Wireless Museum will occupy 1/3 of
    the space with their rare, historic collection of broadcast equipment.  The
    middle third will be a museum dedicated to the history of the VOA.  The final
    third has been assigned to our organization, Media Heritage, for a
    museum/library/research center dedicated to Cincinnati broadcast history as
    well as some national programming.

    In terms of the building itself, there's not too much to see right now.  The
    original Crosley 200-KW transmitters are gone, but we've managed to keep one
    of the Continentals from the 1960's in place.  The 1960 control room is
    intact as is the outside switching bay (the antenna were taken down ten years
    ago.)  The building is in good [removed] have a few temporary displays set
    up.  Tours are given by reservation-only at this time.

    HOWEVER, if anyone is passing through Cincinnati and would like a personal
    tour, please contact [removed]'d be happy to do it (as long as I haven't
    promised that particular hour to someone else obviously).
    -Mike Martini, Media Heritage and WVXU

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    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:41:25 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  7-16 births/deaths

    July 16th births

    07-16-1882 - Charles Egelston - Covington, KY - d. 10-31-1958
    actor: Shuffle Shober "Ma Perkins"; Humphrey Fuller "Just Plain Bill"
    07-16-1887 - Floyd Gibbons - Washington, [removed] - d. 9-24-1939
    commentator: "Headline Hunter"; "World Adventures"; "Nash Program"
    07-16-1888 - Percy Kilbride - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-11-1964
    actor, host: "Paul Whiteman Presents"; "Melody Round-Up"; "Stars in the Air"
    07-16-1907 - Barbara Stanwyck - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-20-1990
    actress: "Prudential Family Hour of Stars"; "This Is My Story"
    07-16-1907 - Ned Calmer - Chicago, IL - d. 3-9-1986
    news analyst: "World News Roundup"
    07-16-1908 - Frank Singiser - Montevideo, MN - d. 5-28-1982
    newscaster: "Mutual News"
    07-16-1911 - Ginger Rogers - Independence, MO - d. 4-25-1995
    actress: "Star and the Story"; "Packard Hour"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    07-16-1911 - Sonny Tufts - Boston, MA - d. 6-4-1970
    actor: "Harold Lloyd's Comedy Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    07-16-1917 - William Woodson
    actor: John Britton :Just Plain Bill"; Narrator "This is Your FBI"

    July 16th deaths

    01-16-1910 - Dwight Weist - Palo Alto, CA - d. 7-16-1991
    actor: Mr. District Attorney "Mr. District Attorney"; Stan Burton "Second
    Mrs. Burton"
    02-18-1901 - Wayne King - Savannah, IL - d. 7-16-1985
    bandleader: (The Waltz King) "Lady Esther Serenade"
    07-12-1884 - Edgar Stehli - Lyons, France - d. 7-16-1973
    actor: Dr. Huer "Buck Rogers"; Rex A. Starr "It's Murder"
    09-01-1902 - John J. Anthony - NYC - d. 7-16-1970
    moderator: "Good Will Hour"; "John J. Anthony Hour"
    10-23-1904 - Margaret Speaks - Columbus, OH - d. 7-16-1977
    singer: "Voice of Firestone"
    12-03-1916 - Whitfield Connor - Rathdowney, Ireland - d. 7-16-1988
    actor: Harry Davis "When a Girl Marries"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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