Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #412
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Date: 11/15/2003 1:51 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 412
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      20 Million Sweethearts                [ RBackus22@[removed] ]
      11-15 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      The shy Art Carney                    [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
      Looking for OTR dealer                [ P Larsen <larsenhouse@[removed]; ]
      Art Carney shows - help needed        [ Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed]; ]
      writing to the stars                  [ "Micheal Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
      Radio Revival                         [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
      Big Band Sites                        [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Cinnamon Bear Map, please             [ "Jim Erskine, Homeway Press" <homew ]
      big band links                        [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
      Re: Arkansas vs. Arkansas             [ Kcpymurphy@[removed] ]
      Penny Singleton obit                  [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
      11-16 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:00:19 -0500
    From: RBackus22@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  20 Million Sweethearts
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       For those of you always on the lookout for OTR related movies, Turner
    Classic Movies ran "20 Million Sweethearts" (Warner, 1934) this afternoon.
       Pat O'Brien as a fast talking con man/talent scout "discovers" Dick Powell
    as the country's newest radio Romeo. Actual performances by the Mills
    Brothers and Ted Fio Rito's band as well as entertaining imitations of other
    radio
    stars of the day.
       Not academy award material, but fun to watch for the OTR fan.

               Dick Backus

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    Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:00:02 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  11-15 births/deaths

    Shichi-Go-San Day (Japan)

    November 15th births

    11-15-1879 - Lewis Stone - Worcester, MA - d. 9-12-1953
    actor: Judge James Hardy "Hardy Family"
    11-15-1881 - Franklin Pierce Adams - Chicago, IL - d. 3-24-1960
    panelist: "Information Please"
    11-15-1919 - Carol Bruce - Great Neck, NY
    singer: "Ben Bernie Orchestra"; "Carton of Cheer"
    11-15-1919 - Veronica Lake - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-7-1975
    actress: "Exploring the Unknown"; "Request Performance"

    November 15th deaths

    04-28-1878 - Lionel Barrymore - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-15-1954
    actor: Leonard Gillispie "Dr. Kildare"; Mayor "Mayor of the Town"
    05-05-1914 - Tyrone Power - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-15-1958
    actor: Dean Edwards "Freedom [removed]"
    08-28-1898 - Charlie Grimm - St. Louis, MO - d. 11-15-1983
    Sportscaster:(Jolly Cholly) WBBM Chicago
    12-19-1888 - Fritz Reiner - Budapest, Hungary - d. 11-15-1963
    conductor: "Curtis Institute Musicale"; "Ford Sunday Evening Hour"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:58:55 -0500
    From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The shy Art Carney

    Thank you Hal and Irene for your postings on Art Carney. I rarely saw the
    Honeymooners on the first go around.
    I guess that having a TV would have helped but the other was that having
    been raised in an alcoholics home I
    found the blustery Ralph Kramden a little hard to take. Amazing that a run
    of 39 episodes has become an all time
    classic! My appreciation for Art Carney came in "Harry and Tonto" and also
    in his small role in the TV version of
    Fame. In Fame he had all of the earmarks of the shy character that has been
    revealed in this digest. He was
    very heartwarming. May the Lord be looking after him.
    Ed Kindred

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    Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:47:36 -0500
    From: P Larsen <larsenhouse@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Looking for OTR dealer

    What dealers have good quality MP3's?
    I am tired of the 24k junk on ebay.

    I am ok with 32k sets.

    Thanks

    PL

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: There are plenty of places on the World Wide Web and USENET
    to download 32kbps OTR.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:45:49 -0500
    From: Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Art Carney shows - help needed

    Well now that I've shot my mouth off to the newspapers, I have to deliver!

    Can anyone let me know of specific circulating shows that Art Carney
    appears on? I mean title and date?  Actual episodes of "March of Time"
    "Casey, Crime Photographer" or "The Magnificent Montague", or even Henry
    Morgan shows?

    I will be playing an episode of Land of the Lost, even though I have no way
    of telling which of the three actors known to have played Red lantern is on
    the show. Also to be heard, Columbia Workshop 8/11/46 "Wilbur, the
    Psychoneurotic Automobile", featuring Arnold Stang, Carney and others. I
    can probably dig up a Henry Morgan show, but if you know of an episode that
    he's heavily featured on, it will save me a lot of time previewing many
    shows by Sunday.

    If my memory is correct, there's an episode of "Man Behind the Gun" where
    there's a roll call with the actors calling out their real names, and I
    think Carney was one of them. Ring any bells?

    Please respond to me off-list if you have any concrete dates, etc. Many
    thanks. Max

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:24:22 -0500
    From: "Micheal Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  writing to the stars

    Hello Anybody--
        I have a 12-year-old daughter and a son who is 9 and although they enjoy
    modern singers and TV shows (at least somewhat), they have grown up
    listening to the old-time singers and radio stars with me. Whenever a name
    they're familiar with appears in the obituary column, they grieve a little
    with the rest of us. My daughter's favorite OTR shows are Our Miss Brooks
    and The Aldrich Family so when Richard Crenna and Jackie Kelk passed away,
    she regretted not writing to them.
        Now Art Carney and Penny Singleton--other names familiar to them--have
    died. My daughter asked me last night, "Are there any left I could write
    to?" She was asking specifically about the Jack Benny Show and I had to tell
    her no. "How about the Cinnamon Bear?" No. "Lone Ranger?" Uh-uh.
        We watched the Andy Griffith special the other night and that prompted a
    couple of letters to Don Knotts and company. My son wants to write to TV's
    Eddie Haskell (Ken Osmond). Of course they'll have more success aiming at
    these stars of the '50s and '60s than with the radio stars of the '30s and
    '40s.
        But then I got to thinking. The kids have written to retired athletes
    and some other stars of various media and have gotten letters in return.
    They even corresponded for a while with one of the munchkins from the Wizard
    of Oz. I don't want to give up on the stars of radio, which is more beloved
    to us than TV or the movies.
        I thought about Hal Stone, who the kids are familiar with, and Rhoda
    Williams, who I met at the FOTR convention a couple of years ago. Perhaps
    they would be receptive to a couple of kids' fan letters. I am sure there
    are others. Can anyone advise me as to how to find current addresses of
    people from old time radio? It can't be as easy as going to the public
    library. The address books they have are probably filled with current TV
    stars, etc.
        The kids just want to express their love and thanks to the owners of the
    voices they hear on a daily basis, to make some kind of a connection. I'm
    sure they'll respectfully ask for an autograph or the answer to a question
    or two, with the understanding that nothing is promised or expected.
        Does anyone have any advice for making this happen? Do these people mind
    being bothered? If not, how can I get their addresses? Does anyone have any
    knowledge of a star of OTR who welcomes these kinds of letters, particularly
    one who would be known by the kids in the audience? Should we include
    stamped, addressed envelopes?
        Thanks to anyone who can help us at all with this.

    Michael Leannah
    Sheboygan, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:24:40 -0500
    From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Radio Revival

    This article reviews an old-time radio style performance  -- it mentions
    Jack Benny and demonstrates that recreations can get paying audiences and
    favorable reviews.

    Who knew?

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:42:58 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Big Band Sites

    Stephen Davies posted

>          I didn't hear an answer to Peter Appleyard's query for big band
>     MP3's.  There's a lot of websites where you can stream music, but not
>     download it.

    Try [removed]
    She has several big band mp3's available including alot of Glenn Miller  as
    well as other big names and not so big names.

     He continued

>             I have a similar big band problem.  I'm trying to find a
>     functioning discussion list about historical big bands.  Can anyone direct
>     me to a thriving list of band fans?

    Try David Miller's website "Swinging Down The Lane" at [removed]

    There is usually very lively conversation going on in the "Big Band Talk"
    feature.

    George Aust

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:43:25 -0500
    From: "Jim Erskine, Homeway Press" <homeway@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Cinnamon Bear Map, please

    Could Dennis C. or someone please point us to the site with the hand drawn
    map to track Paddy O'Cinnamon's adventures?

    Also, any other good CB links to share, anyone?

    Tis almost the [removed]

    kylistener

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:43:39 -0500
    From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  big band links
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    If  you belong to a Usenet service, there are at least two groups that I
    know of that post hundreds of big band and other 1940s-50s and earlier
    music, almost all in Mp3 files.

    The directories are:

    [removed]
    [removed]

    Michael Berger

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:43:48 -0500
    From: Kcpymurphy@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Arkansas vs. Arkansas
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    I am from Kansas and Missouri; the river is pronounced "R Kansas" and the
    state is pronounced "R Can Saw" -  at least in eastern Kansas and western
    Missouri.
    kacie

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 03:55:11 -0500
    From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Penny Singleton obit
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    Blondie got a fair sized AP obit but The Independent [UK] gave her a real
    sendoff. To read it all, use this link:

    [removed]

    Michael Berger

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    Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:38:58 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  11-16 births/deaths

    November 16th births

    11-16-1889 - George S. Kaufman - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-2-1961
    panelist: "Information, Please"; "This Is Broadway"; "Who Said That?"
    11-16-1896 - Jim Jordan - Peoria, IL - d. 4-1-1988
    comedian: Mickey Donavan, "Kaltenmeyer"s Kindergarten"; "Fibber McGee "Fibber
    McGee and Molly"
    11-16-1896 - Lawrence Tibbett - Bakersfield, CA - d. 7-15-1960
    singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Golden Voices"
    11-16-1899 - Mary Margaret McBride - Paris, MO - d. 4-7-1976
    commentator: "Mary Margaret McBride"
    11-16-1904 - Eddie Condon - Goodland, IN - d. 8-4-1973
    guitarist, host: "Eddie Condon"s Jazz Concerts"
    11-16-1908 - Imogene Coca - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-2-2001
    comedienne: "Big Show"
    11-16-1909 - Burgess Meredith - Cleveland, OH - d. 9-9-1997
    actor: "Red Adams/Red Davis "Red Adams/Red Davis" (the precursor to "Pepper
    Young"s Family")
    11-16-1912 - George O. Petrie - New Haven, CT - d. 11-16-1997
    actor: Michael Waring "The Falcon"; John J. Malone "Amazing Mr. Malone"
    11-16-1916 - Daws Butler - Toledo, OH - d. 5-19-1988
    actor: "Sears Radio Theatre"; "Stan Freberg Show"; "That"s Rich"
    11-16-1916 - Jack "Smiling Jack" Smith - Fort Ward, Bainbridge Island, WA
    singer: "Breezing Along"; "Prudential Family Hour"; "Jack Smith Show"

    November 16th deaths

    02-01-1901 - Clark Gable - Cadiz, OH - d. 11-16-1960
    actor: "So Proudly We Hail"; "Silver Theatre"
    04-12-1899 - Boake Carter - Baku, Russia - d. 11-16-1944
    news commentator: "Night newscast for CBS"
    08-04-1905 - Frank Luther - Lakin, KS - d. 11-16-1980
    singer: "Luther-Layman Singer"; "Frank Luther Show"; "Happy Wonder Bakers Trio"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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