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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 198


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 [Fwd: McCarthy]
	 How to find OTR on the WWW
	 GOTHAM RADIO PLAYERS present SAM SPADE
	 Re: ILAM novels
	 JOHN BROWN
	 escape title
	 Re: OTR Digest #197
	 John Brown lost his job
	 Re:The Great and All-Knowing Don
	 Don McNeill
	 Re: Nichols and May
	 Tarzan serial availability?
	 Book

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 08:16:45 -0700
From: Jack Mann <jmann@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: [Fwd: McCarthy]
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

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I sent the following to dtodd. Feel free to use it. Jack Mann

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 08:12:05 -0700
From: Jack Mann <jmann@[removed]>
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I hesitate starting a dialog with you, because a man who knows just a
little bit about what he's talking about is a dangerous thing. Sir,
McCarthy was NOT a good man. He was a power-hungry man who used his
position and the national hysteria over Communism (Yes, Communism was
definitly a great problem) to destroy many innocent people along with
the not so innocent. He ruined many INNOCENT lives using accusation by
innuendo and accusation without proof. If this is what you think America
is all about, destroying innocent people by false accusation, then I 
feel sorry for you, because , you see, this is exactly what the 
Communists were doing. McCarthy was using Communist tactics to destroy 
innocent Americans (many were not innocent, to be sure, but some WERE).
Some hero! Jack Mann

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 11:05:29 -0500
From: Lou Genco <lgenco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: How to find OTR on the WWW
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

The World Wide Web may be compared to a telephone book ... with all the
entries and pages in random order.  This seeming disorder may make things a
little difficult to find for the uninitiated.  There are, however, several
indices; sites that attempt to list WWW pages in some kind of topical order.
These indices include [removed], [removed], and others.

If you wish, you can feed several nickles into your telephone, access one of
these index sites, and use the keywords "otr", "old time radio", or even
"radio".  You will soon get screensful of URLs that contain information more
or less related to old time radio.

Most of the OTR sites have indices of their own, with pointers to other OTR
sites, so you can merrily mash keys or click your mouse and explore the
byways of the internet.

Alternately, if you want to save your mouse from clicker fatigue, and
perhaps keep a few nickles in your pocket rather than giving 'em to Ma Bell,
take a look at my Original Old-Time Radio WWW Site.  Don't forget to
download the OTR FAQ to get answers to most of those burning and irritating
questions you might have!

Oh ... it is OK to tell your friends about the site too!

Lou
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Date: 02 Jun 96 13:43:59 EDT
From: Steve Lewis <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: GOTHAM RADIO PLAYERS present SAM SPADE
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I am pleased to announce that the Gotham Radio Players will return to the
airwaves this coming Sunday, June 9, as we present a LIVE recreation of an
episode of THE ADVENTURES OF SAM SPADE.   "The Caper With Eight Diamonds" was
originally broadcast on 11/23/47, and does not exist today in recorded form.  It
is from the Howard Duff era of SPADE, and was written by Bob Tallman and Gil
Doud, who scripted most of the series.  Our production will feature a cast of
eight, along with sound effects and musical accompaniment.  

The Gotham Radio Players have been presenting amateur recreations of classic
radio programs since 1991 on non-commercial radio station WBAI in New York City,
with SAM SPADE being the 13th program in our repertory.  We have also appeared
for the past two years at the Friends of Old-Time Radio Convention in Newark,
and can been seen there again this coming October.

Our live production of "The Caper With Eight Diamonds" can be heard as part of
Max Schmid's program THE GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO, Sunday June 9th, 7:30-9:00pm, on
WBAI, [removed] FM, in New York City.  I hope all of you in the listening area will
make a point of tuning in.

Your humble director,
Steve Lewis   
  

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Date: 02 Jun 96 14:30:19 EDT
From: Steve Lewis <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Cc: Bruce Rosenberger <BR3D@[removed]>
Subject: Re: ILAM novels
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Bruce Rosenberger wrote inquiring about the ILAM novels:

STUFF THE LADY'S HATBOX was the first of two I LOVE A MYSTERY novels that
Carlton E. Morse completed and intended to publish in the late 1980's.  He
passed away before the second, THE WIDOW WITH THE AMPUTATION, was published.
Since the publishing house, Seven Stones Press, was actually owned by Morse, the
project seems to have died with him.  Morse also published two other novels of
his that, while they have nothing to do with ILAM or OTR, are very good reads: A
LAVISH OF SIN and KILLER AT THE WHEEL.

Steve Lewis   
 

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 14:32:29 -0700
From: PETER GRECO <pgreco@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: JOHN BROWN
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

TO DON,
     I STAND CORRECTED ABOUT THE MCCARTHY [removed] JUST USED IT AS AN
UMBRELLA TO COVER ANYTING PERTAINING TO THE UN-AMERICAN HEARINGS OF THE
50'[removed] WAS NOT MAKING A POLITICAL STATMENT,JUST RELATING SOME 
INFORMATION AND MY FEELING TOWARDS A FINE RADIO ACTOR AND NOTHING [removed]
                                          PETER [removed]

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 15:17:07 -0500 (EST)
From: MORTN2HHC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: escape title
Message-id: <01I5FRQDL1S28Y5PL7@[removed]>

Hi gang,

I am looking for a title of an escape program.  The plot deals
with a family trying to escape from tyranny to the other side of
the river.  It takes place in 1972 which is in the future.  You
find out at the end of the show that the river is the
Mississippi.

I know someone out there will come up with the title.  Thanks in
advance.

                              Mort

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:16:36 -0600
From: bigsteve@[removed] (Steve Darnall)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: OTR Digest #197
Message-Id: <v01530500add7a4a8259a@[[removed]]>

But what if John Brown *didn't* support Stalin's [removed]

Well, apparently he got what he deserved [removed]

For myself, I know a musician who found himself the subject of an
investigation when an informant gave Roy Cohn's office a wrong first name.
This musician composed music for a film and found his name had been removed
from the credits. Eventually, he had no option but to move to England.

My heart bleeds for the poor, maligned Senator.

Later.

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:57:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: barrym <barrym@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
cc: otr@[removed]
Subject: John Brown lost his job
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Sun, 2 Jun 1996 Don Todd wrote:
 
>      The lastest slander on the memory (he has been dead for over 40 years)
> of Senator McCarthy came from Mr. Peter Greco in regards to a radio actor
> which I am not aware of by the name of John Brown. Mister Greco glibly
> states that Mister Brown was a great actor whose career was ruined by being
> called before the McCarthy committee.
> 
>      Mr. Greco, whose opinions are apparently as wrong as his facts, does
> not seem to know that Senator McCarthy held no hearings what so ever
> regarding the communist infiltration of the entertainment industry.  Senator
> McCarthy concentrated on the communist infitration of the US government with
> emphasis on the State Department and the Department of Defense.
> 
>      As to Mr. Brown, if he was a supporter of the mass murder of Mr. Stalin
> then I am not surprised that decent people did not want to be assciated with
> him.

First, let me state my hope that this will be accepted by the
operators of this list as a valid OTR topic as long as flame
words are avoided.

I don't really know much about John Brown either, except that I
really enjoy him on the Life of Riley show.  I do remember
vaguely that much of what the house unamarican activities committee
did was inspired by McCarthy.  I'm sure he wasn't the only culprit.
In fact, probably we all were to blame to some extent for the
things that happened in this period.

But the fact is that during that period a lot of careers were
destroyed and a lot of otherwise decent people betrayed their friends
and co-workers in the name of "the American way".  I have no idea
whether John Brown was a communist, a left wing pinko, or anything
else.  That just simply isn't important in this context.  He was a
first rate radio actor.  I couldn't care less about his politics.
If his career was destroyed because he was thought to be a communist
or because he was in fact a communist, then it was an injustice to
him and to all of us.

Barry

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:06:17 -0400
From: Lynchmob17@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:The Great and All-Knowing Don
Message-ID: <960602200616_547830704@[removed]>

Oh thank you, Don Todd!!  Oh, if only Adolph Hit-oh I'm sorry, Pat
Buchanon would be elected president so people like you will have
an outlet for your hatred.  Gosh, it's all so clear to me now.  Black-
listing WAS a good idea.  I'm glad that in a country like the US of A
we can still crush the thoughts and ideas of those we disagree with.
Now if you don't mind, I'll wrap myself in my flag and go to sleep on
my made in America mattress and sleep the sleep of the righteous
few!
Tim S. Turner

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:49:55 -0400
From: JRayb71827@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Don McNeill
Message-ID: <960602204953_126272270@[removed]>

   Regarding the many comments about the passing of Don McNeill and the
wonderful family "feel" engendered by his program for Breakfast Clubbers
everywhere, I thought it might be of interest to pass along part of an
article that pointed up the wholesomeness.  This ran in  the January/February
issue of my OTR newsletter, "Thrilling Days of Yesteryear."

                       More About THE Morning Man

   A number of years ago (we won't say how many), I worked with a fine
announcer, Bill Murphy, who wound up in  the St. Louis market.  He had a
brother, Bob, who did quite well in Chicago as one of the several announcers
on "The Breakfast Club."  That list included, at one time or another, Durward
Kirby and Ken Nordine.
   Back in April of 1953, Bob's wife, Louise, gave some insights into the
niceness of the McNeill family.
   "Every woman wants to make a good impression when she meets her husband's
new boss.
   If the boss's wife happens to be present, any couple will make doubly
certain everything is apple-pie perfect.
   That is, any couple except the Murphys.
   When, for the first time, Bob and I met Don and Kay McNeill and the rest
of the Breakfast Clubbers in a social situation, we unwittingly put ourselves
and the others into a predicament as excruciating as a bad dream.
   We can't yet figure out exactly how the mix-up occurred, for certainly we
were sufficiently experienced both socially and in radio life.  Both of us
worked at KSTP in St. Paul when we married.  We had moved to Chicago when Bob
became an NBC staff announcer.  He did a hitch in the Navy, returned to NBC,
and in 1946, when there were three young Murphys, Bob turned free-lance.
   Being chosen to do the Philco announcements for "Breakfast Club" was one
of his first big commercial assignments and, believe me, it was important to
us!
   Consequently, the day he came home and told me we had been invited to a
party at the home of Dan Dowd, the Swift announcer on the show, I immediately
sent Bob's best suit to the cleaners and made a beauty shop appointment for
myself.
   On the night of the party, I asked our sitter to feed the children.  Bob
and I got ready early.  So early, in fact, that we had to kill time before
leaving.  Eight o'clock, we figured, would be the soonest possible moment it
would be proper to arrive.
   As we came up the Dowd's walk, the living-room windows were lighted, the
shades were up, but there was no one in sight.
   'They must have a basement recreation room,' said Bob.  'Now when we get a
house of our [removed]'
   The first look at our hostess' face when she opened the door betrayed the
awful truth.  Guests were not in the recreation room, they were in the dining
room.
   Worse yet, despite all the polite pretenses everyone tried to make, there
was no disguising the fact that while waiting for the two-hour tardy guests
of honor - which we didn't know we were - the dinner had been all but ruined
and the other guests had been all but famished.
   There was nothing to say, but Bob and I, in our painful embarrassment,
said it too many times.  Also, too many times, the Dowds and their guests
assured us it didn't really matter, that this sort of thing could happen to
anyone.  All of us were drowning in a sea of confusion.
   Characteristically, it was Kay McNeill who threw out the lifeline.
 Leaning across the table, she beamed at me and said, 'Louise, do you have
one child or two?'
   I hadn't expected her to know my first name, but the way she used it made
me feel all had been forgiven and we had been taken into the family.
 Grateful for getting onto solid ground, I blurted, "Three.  And are they
into everything!'
   Don McNeill grinned and in that dry, droll way of his remarked, 'What do
you expect when you pick an Irishman for a husband?  You should see our
kids.'
   Babies, I soon learned, were to Kay McNeill the world's most wonderful
creatures.  Immediately we were engrossed in happy talk of formulas, first
steps, first words, in which all women at the table joined.  In comparing our
shared experience we all relaxed and had a truly enjoyable evening.
   Every mother in the Breakfast Club circle has some similar story to tell
about Don and Kay's thoughtfulness.  Each will usually add that help was
never requested but it always arrived exactly when it was most needed.  The
McNeills, we learned, had a knack of hearing such chance remarks as, 'We're
going to move,' 'My boy is sick,' or 'Tomorrow I bring my wife and new baby
home from the hospital,' and then doing something about it.
   It's Don's ability to separate business from pleasure - completely - which
makes all of our associations so enjoyable.  He's just as nice off the air as
he is on and Kay is instrumental in helping make the Breakfast Club not
merely a job but a community of neighbors."

   Just thought some of you might enjoy this and I'm sure all will concur
that it it would be great if we could have some of that kind of programming
again done by people of quality like Don McNeill.
*****
Another note:  There have been references to the character portrayed by Al
Pearce on his show.  The postings have said it was "Elmer Blurp," and that
was so in the early going for the recalcitrant salesman and his, "Nobody
home, I hope-I hope-I hope."  However, in 1929, Al decided that "Elmer Blurt"
with the "t" instead of the "p" was easier to say and it was changed from
that time on.  Great sound effects man Ray Erlenborn, who still appears at
many of the OTR conventions, can confirm that for you and I used to work with
a gal who sang on the Pearce program and she said the same thing.

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:50:17 -0400
From: GOpp@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Nichols and May
Message-ID: <960602215016_405867804@[removed]>

In response to John Collins's post, I don't know of any Nichols and May 
cassettes, but I have 1972 two record set on the Mercury label called 
"Mike Nichols and Elaine May: retrospect", which includes most of their 
classic routines.  It's one of my favorite albums.

- Gregg Oppenheimer

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 96 16:24:17 -0500
From: "Treasure Mountain  Electronic Publications" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "otr@[removed]" <otr@[removed]>
Subject: Tarzan serial availability?
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

On Sun, 2 Jun 1996 07:39:42 -0500, kg@[removed] (KEN GREENWALD)
wrote:

>The Sherlock Holmes shows - all of them! - were recored on Electrical
>Transcriptions. In my work on producing the Rathbone/Bruce cassette series 
I
>found out that Northwestern University has a large collection of the discs,
>but they moved them to a storage facility and it has been most difficult to
>get them released. I feel sure that, someday, they will. Also, WOR, New 
York,
>has a collection of the 1939-1944 shows, but they are holding on to them, as
>of this date. 


On a related note, does anyone know if the later episodes of the 1930s serial 
TARZAN OF THE APES still exist (approximately episodes #100 thru about 
#360)?  A shorter serial, TARZAN AND THE FIRES OF TOHR, also seems 
to have vanished almost without a trace.

Author Edgar Rice Burroughs appeared in at least one radio interview.  
Anyone know of any surviving tapes of him?

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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:59:46 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Book
Message-ID: <960603075946_317045908@[removed]>

Those Wonderful, Terrible Years: George Heller and the American Federation of
Television and Radio Artists: Southern Illinois University Press, Box 3697,
Carbondale, IL 62901 (618) 453-6633; 235 pages; $[removed] paperback.  This is
the story of George Heller, and the history of AFTRA which he helped found,
told against the background of the House Un-American Activities Committee and
one Senator Joseph McCarthy.

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