Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #279
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/28/2001 2:32 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2001 : Issue 279
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      actresses, actors & accents           [ " Dial" <epminney@[removed]; ]
      more accents                          [ " Dial" <epminney@[removed]; ]
      BEA BENADERT                          [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      Larry Keating                         [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
      Bea and Suspence                      [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
      bea benaderet radio husband           [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      JOHNNIE'S "THEME"                     [ "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
      Clark Super 100 gasoline              [ "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed]; ]
      Re: Johnnys background music          [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
      Philip Mooorrriiiiaaaass              [ Alan Bell <bella@[removed]; ]
      Yellow Oleo                           [ Frank Kendall <efkendall@[removed]; ]
      Can you help?                         [ "Alecia" <ramble1@[removed]; ]
      Oxydol                                [ Eric Cooper <ejcooper2001@[removed]; ]
      Raymond Edward Johnson Mention        [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
      Bea Benaderet's son                   [ "igsjr@[removed]" <igsjr@[removed]; ]
      Re: Uh, I thought this was kinda lik  [ Michael Edwards <medwards_47@yahoo. ]
      Re:WOTW Discs                         [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      White King Soap Presents ...          [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      The Yellow Went There!                [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Good Health To ...                    [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      re facts                              [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
      Re: In Defense of Researchers         [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      OTR Show Opens With Sponsor Message   [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      WHICH CAME FIRST                      [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      JEANETTE NOLAN                        [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
      You'll Wonder Where The Yellow Went,  [ Al Girard <agirard@[removed] ]
      Blondie and callll for phillip morri  [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
      Age is relative, I hope.              [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
      Re: Rinso "White"                     [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:41:59 -0400
    From: " Dial" <epminney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  actresses, actors & accents

    Stewart Wright offered some fine comments about Jeannette Nolan and
    Virginia Gregg--thanks for telling me who played Hattie Pelfrey and
    Mamie!  Much to my sorrow many of my OTR tapes do not list the cast of
    each show--a grievous lack!  I am fairly new to OTR but have already
    begun to recognize special favorites:  Lawrence Dobkin, Vic Perrin,
    and, of course, Harry Bartell who has a distinctive "brightness" to his
    voice.  I was tickled to hear his soft "Texas" accent as Johnny
    Stringer (Six Shooter) and (I think) Randy Culver on a Straight Arrow
    [removed] charming drawl in contrast to Lt. Seiberts on Fort
    Laramie.
    Some logs list the actors, some don't--ought to be required that the
    cast be announced!   Elizabeth

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    Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:41:48 -0400
    From: " Dial" <epminney@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  more accents

    I forgot to mention in my comments on actors and accents:  I was
    thunderstruck when I finally decided that it was William Conrad playing
    Red Eye Kirk on a Six Shooter episode--complete with roaring hillbilly
    twang.  AND he played Dave the Dude with an "in your face" New York
    (New Jersey?) snarl on the Damon Runyon Theatre!  I couldn't believe it!
       Mr. Bartell, what accents are your favorites to do?
    Thanks -- Elizabeth

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    Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:53:43 -0400
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  BEA  BENADERT

    OTR FRIENDS: THANKS TO THOSE WHO SENT INFRO.  SO FAR
    HERE IS WHAT I HAVE FOUND ON BEA BENADERETS OTR
    CAREER.
    THE SHOWS SHE WAS A REGULAR ON ARE:
    JACK BENNY SHOW TV & RADIO  A DAY IN THE LIFE OF D.
    DAY
    FIBBER & MOLLY  GREAT GILDERSLEEVE  OZZIE & HARRIET
    GLAMOUR MANOR VAR. SHOW   MY FRIEND ERMMA   MEL BLANC
    SHOW  CAMPBELL PLAYHOUSE  MEET MILLIE   A DATE WITH
    JUDY  SAM SPADE  MY FAVORITE HUSBAND  BURNS & ALLEN
    BOTH RADIO & TV PLAYED GRACIES BEST FRIEND & NEIGHBOR
    FOR 20 YEARS BETWEEN THE TWO.
    WILL LOOKING IN TO HER HUSBANDS NAME ON RADIO AND GET
    BACK TO YOU.

    I HAVE FOUND GUEST APPERANCES ON THE FOLLOWING:
    GI JOURNAL  SUSPENSE  LUX RADIO THEATER  LIGHTS OUT.
    I AM TOLD SHE HAD GUEST APPERANCES ON LOT OF SHOWS. IF
    YOU HAVE LOGS OF SHOWS WOULD YOU CHECK THEM FOR ME?

    HEY ALL YOU COMPUTER WIZES OUT THERE I AM A COMPUTER
    DUD WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTERNET.  CAN FIND ALOT
    ON TV & MOVIE CARRER BUT NOT ON RADIO CAREER.  ANY
    HELP YOU CAN SEND MY WAY WOULD BE GREATLY
    APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!        THANKS LYNN

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    Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:54:57 -0400
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Larry Keating

    Joseph Ross mentions the character played by Larry Keating on television's
    version of BURNS AND ALLEN (1953-1958). Keating also had an extensive radio
    career as host, announcer, and actor on many, many shows. He was famous too
    for his appearances on television's MR. ED.

    When I read THE FAMOUS MR. ED [Warner Books, 1991] by Nancy Nalven, I
    gained tremendous respect for the actor.  All cast members of MR. ED loved
    Keating (who played Alan Young's neighbor). Nalven  writes, "Early in 1963,
    Larry learned that he was terminally ill with leukemia. For the last six
    months of his life, he continued to play Roger Addison. He died on August
    26, 1963, at the age of sixty-four. The last episode Keating appeared in
    was #80, 'Patter of Little Hooves.'  Alan Young remembers that during the
    shooting of  'Leo Durocher Meets Mister Ed' (#81), Keating was fooling
    around on the base paths at Dodger Stadium, where much of the show was
    filmed. He asked Alan Young to assist him getting up, and reported gravely
    to his friend, 'This is the last time you'll pick me up.' Larry did not
    appear in this episode, and he died just six days later." (p. 92)

    I felt this anecdote gives added dimension to an actor who often played
    pompous roles.

    Dennis Crow

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    Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:55:44 -0400
    From: AandG4jc@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bea and Suspence

        Bea did play Blanc on the radio but I don't know how long she was with
    the radio cast. Mrs. Bernadette was a woman of many talents. She was also the
    first person to give voice to Betty Rubble on the Flintstones. And she almost
    single handily stole the Beverly Hillbillies as Pearl Bodean. A wonderful
    comedian and actress!
        But I do have a question. Does anybody know the name of the Suspense
    episode that had a blind detective by the name of "Captain McClain." I
    remember hearing this episode a couple of years ago on the radio broadcast of
    old time radio and I have been trying to find that episode. I am most
    positive that it was a Suspense episode and not Escape. But of course I could
    be wrong. This character also appeared as a detective, in two movies, (1) The
    Hidden Eye and (2) The Eyes in the Night, which will, as of this sent e-mail,
    be playing this morning (Tues.)on Turner Classic Movies at 4:30 in the
    morning.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:56:43 -0400
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  bea benaderet radio husband

    AS PROMISED HERE IS THE SCOOP ON BEA BENADERETS
    HUSBANDS-HARRY MORTON ON THE BURNS AND ALLEN RADIO
    SHOW.

    HAL MARCH  1950-51    JOHN BROWN 1951
    FRED CLARK  1951-53   LARRY KEATING  1953-58

    LARRY KEATING MADE THE JUMP TO TV WITH BURNS & ALLEN
    CAST.  HE WAS IN MY OPINION THE BEST HARRY MORTON OF
    ALL OF THEM TV OR RADIO!!!!

    ADD THE FOLLOWING OTR SHOWS GUEST APPERANCES TO BEA
    CREDIT:
    MAYOR OF THE TOWN AND ARCH OBLERS PLAYS.  NO WONDER
    SHE IS KNOWN AS THE BUSIEST ACTRESS ON RADIO.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:57:10 -0400
    From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  JOHNNIE'S "THEME"

    This is for Bill Harris, who asked what the theme was behind Johnnnie's
    Introductions:

    It was from Ferde Grofet's "Grand Canyon Suite"  I have had an LP of that
    Suite for over 30 years, and the part that was used for Johnnie was a
    segment called "On The Trail."  Hope this helps.

    Owens

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:58:30 -0400
    From: "jstokes" <jstokes@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Clark Super 100 gasoline

    I can't recall seeing any Clark gas stations lately.   But I surely recall
    their song.   And it went SOMETHING (attention Capon radio "researchers" --
    it may not be EXACTLY this, so don't quiver and stamp your feet. :)) --

    "Clark Super 100 Gasoline, thousands say it's best.  The largest selling
    independent gasoline in the middle west.  Fill up today, you'll know just
    what we mean.  Buy Clark Super 100 Gasoline."

    The comedy commercials featured Mel Blanc playing both roles of a boss and
    his underling.
    - ----------------------------------------------------------
    The days of phony baloney gas commercials seem to have gone away now that
    the robber oil companies charge sky-high prices in the US.   The only
    difference is that Super America puts a bit more water in their gas.

    And the "farmer gas," the corn-based gas.   It's also branded as Blue Gas.
    Turns out more pollution is created in distilling this product.   And
    despite what they say, it WILL erode the gaskets in your car.   Happy head
    gasket replacement!

    Beat that corn into cereal and muffins instead, Farmer Brown!

    Jim Stokes,
    NaturaLite Pictures, shooting the romance comedy adventure "There's Danger
    In Romance" in New York in September.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:58:21 -0400
    From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Johnnys background music

    The background music while Johnny did his CALLLLLLL FOR PHILLLLIP MORRRRRRRIS
    ad was "The Grand Canyon Suite" composed by Mr. Gershwin.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:58:47 -0400
    From: Alan Bell <bella@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Philip Mooorrriiiiaaaass

    I have a modestly sized collection of shows, between 2500 and 3000,
    and while I haven't listend to anywhere near all of them (maybe
    during my retirement!!) I've listened to a significant percentage and
    NOWHERE have I hear "Call for Philip Mooorrriiiiaaaass." Yet I do
    remember it from my childhod (I'm 58). What OTR shows were sponsored
    by PM, anyway? Was I Love Lucy on TV sponsored by PM? Is THAT where
    I'm recalling it?
    --
    Alan Bell
    Grandville, MI
    bella@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:59:04 -0400
    From: Frank Kendall <efkendall@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Yellow Oleo

    I remember the white oleo coming in a bag that had a
    "button" of yellow food coloring embeded in the bag.
    You squeezed the "button" until it broke and then
    kneaded the bag until the oleo was yellow. It was
    kinda fun to do and my brother and I used to fight to
    be the one to do this.

    Frank Kendall
    [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:59:37 -0400
    From: "Alecia" <ramble1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Can you help?

    Do you know which of these programs played on Sunday nights during prime in
    Detrolit Michiagan time during 1942-1943:
    The Hermits Cave; I Love A Mystery; A Love Adventure.

    If it is not one of these three, can you tell me what horror/adventure
    programs played during those times.

    Thanks for your help, back to luck mode,

    Alecia

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:02:10 -0400
    From: Eric Cooper <ejcooper2001@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Oxydol

    Sometimes the east coast has things that us in the west don't get. This was the case with
    the OTR days as well when some programs were sponsored regionally, woth different
    commerccials for the east and west or sometimes as in the case of The Whistler being
    aired only in the west for most of its run because that's where the product was (Signal
    Oil)  We did not have Ma Perkins' favorite soap until recenty out [removed] am glad to know
    it has been around awhile

    Eric Cooper

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:02:29 -0400
    From: Kubelski@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Raymond Edward Johnson Mention

    David Hinckley of The New York Daily News mentioned the death of Raymond
    Edward Johnson in his column in today's edition, once again proving he's the
    one reporter in this metro market that cares about the history of radio.

    In addition, he has an update of the current battle over WBAI, which may be
    of interest to some list members as well.

    [removed]

    Sean Dougherty
    Kubelski@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:03:28 -0400
    From: "igsjr@[removed]" <igsjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Bea Benaderet's son

    Ben Ohmart wondered:

>     Didn't Bea have a son who was a regular on Lou Grant?  I don't know,
>     someone told me. Is it true?

    Yes -- her son Jack Bannon played Art Donovan.  Jack was also the son of
    Jim Bannon of I LOVE A MYSTERY fame, to whom Bea was married to at one
    time.

    Ivan

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:06:35 -0400
    From: Michael Edwards <medwards_47@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Uh, I thought this was kinda like fun?

    Last time on the OTR Digest, Jim Stokes writes:

>     Uh, I thought that thinking back to the old time
>     radio days was like FUN? It was fun for me.  But some
>     people here, who call themselves "researchers" never
>     worked in radio a day in their lives.

    This reminds me of a talk radio show I was listening
    to last week.  (Rush Limbaugh?) A listener berated the
    host for giving his opinion on the usefulness of
    homework, because he wasn't a parent, and, as such
    shouldn't be taken seriously on the issue.  The host
    pointed out that he had never been in the miltary, so
    he shouldn't talk about the defense budget; he had
    never been in politics, so he shouldn't discuss that
    either.  It's a very slippery slope.  Jim, people work
    on, research, and write about subjects they weren't
    involved in, all the time--they're called historians.

>     I had 15 yrs in the biz in local and major markets as
>     a DJ, salesman, programmer, and engineer.  And I think
>     if I feel like doing a just-from-memory-for-fun
>     recall, I shouldn't have to be beaten with words by
>     people who never were in the biz and whose only game
>     seems to be to correct people.

    Again, this is a very dangerous notion--that you had
    to be there in order to give your view, or correct
    somebody who was there.  People's memories are faulty,
    and I can not see the virtue in letting errors pass,
    especially to such a wide audience as this list.

    I'm aware that, in the past, there's been a call not
    to be vicious or unrelenting when correcting someone
    else's piece of misinformation, and I can certainly
    appreciate that.  But, if the rather mild corrections
    of advertising jingles (which are available for
    ANYONE'S listening, merely by selecting the widely
    available shows on which they're featured)constitutes
    "beating up with words", I can't muster up any
    sympathy.  Any correction is now going to be deemed
    offensive, and that's insane.

>     For the record, I have seen a LOT of mistakes made by
>     certain "experts" on this board.   And I don't go
>     whipping them.

    Nobody needs to whip anybody. And nobody whipped you
    either, unless you're referring to some private
    e-mails.  Feel free to post some corrections, if you
    have them.  If this is really just for fun, and no big
    deal, then it should be no big deal to correct the
    ocassional error.

>     So give us old guys a break, who really were in the
>     biz, and now just want to have some fun.

    I think there are plenty of old guys who were in "the
    biz", having fun on this list.  Corrections are
    allowed here.  If by having fun, you mean not allowing
    any corrections, you may consider starting your own
    "board".

>     "Capons" is more of a term for the "expert
>     researchers" on this board who were never in the biz.

    Well, I looked up capons in the Merriam-Webster
    Collegiate Dictionary (I know, there I go consulting
    books again!), and capons is the plural of capon,
    which is a 12'th century word for castrated male
    chicken.  Really!  You do the "expert researchers" a
    disservice, Jim--some of them are women!

    Anyhoo, this "board" is for people who are interested
    in old-time radio, not people who were in the biz.
    Being in the "biz" does not you the right to post in
    error. It's egotistical to think otherwise.

>     I respect people who ARE and WERE actually in the
>     biz, BTW.

    And I respect people who deserve my respect.  Some of
    us didn't have the privelige of working in "the biz",
    or being alive when the golden age of "the biz" was
    ocurring.  I'm sorry, we're apparently less than
    worthy.  Perhaps we should put it to a vote.  All in
    favor of those who were not affilated with the biz
    keeping quiet, say AYE!

    Michael Edwards

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:07:17 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re:WOTW Discs

    Bill Harris wrote:

>     A set of WOW
>     transcription disks sold for $14,000. WOW!!!

    Are there any details available about the provenance of these discs ---
    were they actually authenticated by anyone with a background in vintage
    transcriptions? I know there was a set of fuzzy 1948-vintage copy discs
    made by Radio Recorders floating around the OTR world a few years ago,
    which would hardly be worth that much even to the most deep-pocketed
    collector, and I've also heard of even cruder 12" lacquer dubs floating
    around that were probably made in the 1950's or 1960's. On the other
    hand, a genuine first-generation set of 1938-vintage recordings of the
    program would be of considerable historical interest aside from the
    monetary value -- especially if they included local "it's only a play"
    interruptions.

    In any event, I hope the eBayers don't get wind of this -- transcription
    prices are ridiculous enough as it is.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:07:44 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  White King Soap Presents ...

    Speaking of washday products, George Aust observes,

>     White King was another soap, but I don't remember who they sponsored or
>     if they had a jingle.

    White King sponsored a show I really liked, when I could get it, Chandi,
    the Magician.  Well, at least out west.  In the eastern U,S., I
    understand that it was Beech-Nut Gum.  But i only heard it when my father
    was stationed in the Western United States.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:08:32 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Yellow Went There!

    Brian Johnson, speaking of oleomargarine, notes,

>     But few remember that in the early days of margarine, the dairy lobby
>     in Washington succeeded in requiring that the yellow coloring not be
>     manufactured into the product so no one would confuse it with real
>     butter.

    They did more than that.  I remember an ad (I think it was for Blue
    Bonnet Margerine) where the lady tastes it and says, "It tastes better
    than better," rather than "better than butter."

    On mixing the yellow coloring, when we first started using margarine
    after the end of World War II, we got a pound of white stuff and a little
    envelope of aluminum, which, when we tore it open, had the pigment.  We
    used forks to mix in the coloring, which looked like a deep
    reddish-orange powder until it thinned out in the blending process.  It
    was a chore.  Once, as a kid, I just used the stuff plain, spreading the
    white margarine on my toast, rather to the disgust of my parents.  Tasted
    the same, either way.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:08:57 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Good Health To ...

    Hoosierwood, speaking of drug stores, notes,

>     When I come across a Rexall store in my travels I find that they don't
>     know who Phil Harris was.

    Regrettably, relatively few people know who Phil Harris was.  He didn't
    transition well into television, and his novelty records ([removed], The
    Thing) petered out in the major music areas during the 1950s.

    But then, a lot of older personalities are getting forgotten, sorry to
    say.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:17:59 -0400
    From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re facts

    Mr Stokes said

> >     I hope the "researchers" don't get all hyper and bent out of shape.
> >     Hey baby, after all, ain't this just for fun?

    and Biel said

>     Sure, to a certain extent.  But since these internet postings are
>     sometimes picked up and re-quoted even years later, easily corrected
>     errors should be corrected.  That's what a dialog and an exchange of
>     ideas is.  If someone has access to the correct info or to the actual
>     recording, why shouldn't they give the info?

    No reason why they shouldn't, unless they are incapable of not wording
    it in such a way as to cast aspersions on the intelligence and capability
    of the person being "corrected."  We're all adults here (except for some of
    our younger enthusiasts, who are developing adult tastes) and
    we ALL deserve to be treated with RESPECT and REGARD by our colleagues
    (and I use the word "colleague" deliberately.)  If someone has a fount
    of knowledge but can't use it in any way other than as a verbal bludgeon,
    then that knowledge is likely to go unheard by the enraged and fuming
    bludgeonees.

>     My real job is teaching and researching OTR.

    And until you changed your sig file, you made very sure that
    fact was advertised almost daily.

    {Charlie, you can take out that last bit if you think necessary,
    but if the rest is postable, please do.    John}

    John Henley

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: Ok, folks, I think we've exausted this particular topic -
    it's heading rapidly into personal insults, which we do _not_ do here, right?
    I think we'll let one of the most respected researchers have the last word on
    the topic in the next message, and then put this one to bed.  --cfs3]

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:18:02 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: In Defense of Researchers

    On 8/27/01 11:50 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     Uh, I thought that thinking back to the old time radio days was like FUN?
>     It was fun for me.   But some people here, who call themselves "researchers"
>     never worked in radio a day in their lives.

    Well, how about 5480 days in radio, more or less -- which is about the
    amount of time I worked in The Business, as a reporter, news editor,
    production specialist, and copywriter -- not counting the past four
    years, in which I've served as co-writer for a daily technology show
    ("Sound*Bytes") on several hundred stations of the CBS Radio Network. In
    fact, I think it's safe to say that there are few of us "researchers" who
    have not at one time or another had some direct experience in The
    Business. (And in my own case, most of that time was spent working with
    obsolete 1940s vintage equipment -- it wasn't the OTR era, but thanks to
    the cheap grifters who owned the stations I worked at it might as well
    have been -- I recorded network feeds on a Magnecord PT-6, and it doesn't
    get much more 1950s than that. Adding to the nostalgia value, the pay
    levels were OTR-era as well, as were the social attitudes of the
    management.)

    I think most people will agree there is room for both "casual nostalgia"
    and "serious research" in the OTR world -- after all, when the Nostalgic
    Fan comes around asking for specific information on the background or
    broadcast history of a particular program or personality, it's up to the
    Serious Researcher to root it out. That hard-core information isn't going
    to be found in casual coffee-shop chatter -- one has to work to dig it
    out from blurry microfilm, original scripts, old program logs, original
    recordings, engineering reports, and other documentary materials.
    Sharing the results of this research has been, from my perspective, been
    one of the most valuable aspects of this Digest over the years, and I for
    one am glad to see so many Serious Researchers frequenting it.  And it's
    commendable that we are *usually* able to conduct our conversations here
    on the basis of mutual respect without snide remarks or namecalling.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:18:44 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR Show Opens With Sponsor Message

    A 'quickie' message before a network show was called a 'cow catcher' --
    following the show a 'hitchhiker'

                    Sandy Singer
           A DATE WITH SINATRA

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:18:55 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WHICH CAME FIRST

    Did the J C Deagan company make their famous dinner chimes before or
    after the notes G E C were selected by NBC?

                    Sandy Singer

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:19:10 -0400
    From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  JEANETTE NOLAN

    Jeanette Nolan was married to, and often worked with, actor John McIntire

                    Sandy Singer

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:19:31 -0400
    From: Al Girard <agirard@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  You'll Wonder Where The Yellow Went, da da da
     da da da da da

    I remember that before the actual slogan was used,
    there was a tease campaign which ran for about a
    month.  The first line of the jingle was played,
    and listeners were asked to submit their ideas for
    the second line.  There was no mention of Pepsodent
    in the campaign, so the suggestions were quite varied.

    Demographics:  It's been asked before, but I'm 39.
    (Well, actually just turned 66.)

    Al Girard

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:11:03 -0400
    From: Jer51473@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Blondie and callll for phillip morriiicce!

     When i aske  for blondie sponsor i meant the main one, at least as i
    remember. also cant remember the name of phillip morris theme, but it was
    classical and reminded me of a camel loping in the dessert. Band leaders were
    russ morgan, ray bloch and johnny green.

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:36:56 -0400
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Age is relative, I hope.

    Jon Martin asked:

>     I do have a question  - what is the average age of the people who are on the
>     list?

    My guess is about 52. But don't factor my age into the equation. That would
    skewer the results on the high [removed] for sure.

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    Jughead

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    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:36:29 -0400
    From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Rinso "White"

    George Aust posted a recollection about Rinso, the laundry detergent.
    Before Beverly Sills became an opera diva, she began her performing career
    singing the Rinso "White"  (..."happy little
    washday song!") jingle on the radio, I think it
    was the Amos 'n Andy Show ( Andy also
    sang the jingle in a commercial.) Beverly is
    still fondly known to friends as "Bubbles"
    and, as far as I know today, is still active in
    The Met organization and appears on PBS.
    =Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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