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Date: 11/18/2004 7:16 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 368
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Space Patrol                          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
      First DJ                              [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
      future of the hobby                   [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
      MusicMatch for recording OTR          [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
      Legends and The Future                [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
      Radio Spirits products cheap          [ "ellsworth o johnson" <eojohnsonww2 ]
      better advice to search Radio Spirit  [ "ellsworth o johnson" <eojohnsonww2 ]
      Space Patrol                          [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Space Patrol                          [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      11-18 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Sperdvac                              [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      First Female Disc Jockey              [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Eddie Anderson                        [ "kierniesky" <kierniesky@[removed] ]
      Dayton Allen                          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:29:29 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Space Patrol

>     ...it was being syndicated into the late 1960's. This article appears
>     to be much more authoritative, although it contains rather annoying
>     gramatical and spelling errors.  --cfs3]

    It sometimes was syndicated under the title "Satellite Police," which
    I think may have been an unauthorized version.  It was shown under
    its correct title on "Nightflight," an overnight show on the USA
    Network for several years in the mid-80s.

    --
     A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                             [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210            lawyer@[removed]
     Boston,MA 02108-2503              [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:05:14 -0500
    From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  First DJ
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    The world's first deejay had to be Reginald Fessenden, when he made his
    historic broadcast at 9:00 PM on Christmas Eve, 1906, and played a
    recording of Handel's "Largo."

    BUT since Fessenden was a native Canadian, he wasn't the first American
    (when you define that word as a [removed] citizen).

    I think Frank Conrad is probably considered the first deejay to broadcast
    regularly, when he spun records on his amateur radio station 8XK in his
    garage in Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania near the end of World War I.

    And as far as I know, whatever female deejay pioneers there may have been
    are lost in history.

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:33:21 -0500
    From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  future of the hobby

    Hi Everybody,

    reading the last couple of digest the topic of the future of the hobby came
    up.  I personally feel that we are in very good shape for the up and coming
    collectors, historians and new formats of hearing the shows.  I recall Ron
    Sale asking a while back how many of us who are under 40 on this list and I
    counted over 30 email telling there story how they got involve in the OTR
    hobby.  I am 38 years old and been collecting since I was ten years old, and
    been a member of SPERDVAC since 1979.  Thanks to the internet many of us has
    become more aware of each others that live around the country and keep in
    touch with each other.  Thanks to the leadership of both Bobb Lynes of
    SPERDVAC and Jay Hickerson of FOTR some of us are getting more involve in
    the conventions.  We could use more volunteers at the convention today than
    ever before to help drive our guest to the convention.  I have a file of
    over 200 people who work in one form or another during the Golden Days of
    radio but many do not drive any more or live a great deal away from the
    conventions.  SPERDVAC is bless to have so many OTR performers live in the
    area compare to the other convention.  I believe that some day many of the
    OTR clubs will need to combining the resources like archives, conventions,
    ect to keep the hobby alive nationally.  I will guest that board members of
    conventions, and club will be base around the country and stay in touch with
    the new technology rather than living near by.  We are already seeing this
    happen to one of the OTR clubs for next year.  I hope that board members of
    OTR clubs make sure there archives is offered to other clubs rather than a
    library just in case the club needs to close up shop.  That way future
    collectors can have copies of the shows.  Take care,

    Walden Hughes

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:36:22 -0500
    From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
    To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  MusicMatch for recording OTR

    Hi all,
    Well first let me say that I haven't used MUSICMATCH but I would caution
    using anything that will watch for the gaps or volume level type things.
    If you were doing it from great sorces like Vinyl then maybe.  I probably
    wouldn't do it with OTR reels unless you are very sure that the shows are all
    in good
    quality.
    I've had some reels that have had volume dropouts in the middle of a show for
    as long as 3 to 5 seconds as well as long skipping portions in them that I'd
    forgotten about.
    I think that the best thing is just to record the whole track at once and
    then just split the large file in to smaller ones.
    I suppose you could do it with MM but then you'd have to check all the files.
    It's sure tempting to use something like that when archiving, though.
    Bill

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:17:24 -0500
    From: skallisjr@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Legends and The Future

    Craig ,speaking of OTR performers and first-generation OTR listeners,
    asks -

> >     Can/should Golden Age Radio fandom survive beyond them?<<

    These are two separate questions.  Of course, "can" such fandom survive,
    what's to stop it?  "Should" is a value judgement.  /Any/ enthusiasm
    "should" survive if it generates sufficient interest.

    My concern for posterity is how much inaccuracy will creep into the
    hobby.  One of the reasons I wrote my Captain Midnight book was to
    preserve the stories, since relatively few Ovaltine adventures are in
    circulation.  If I ever get around to writing the sequel, I'll have
    preserved the basic radio saga -- and may have scotched an urban legend
    or two in the process.* But there are many, or more, other bits of legend
    from other shows that may never be caught.

    Philosophically, I suppose it shouldn't matter as long as the fans of the
    forthcoming eras are happy, but there are many who might be at least
    saddened by the thought.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
    _____________
    * One such urban legend is that of the ring being subtly promoted as a
    premium in an adventure, "Jewels of the Queen of Sheba."  In one of the
    few surviving recordings, Captain Midnight and cohorts were looking at a
    ring involved in locating the area in Africa where the Queen of Sheba
    obtained her royal jewels -- shades of King Solomon's Mines.  Captain
    Midnight shows the ring, saying that it had changed color to a "greenish
    glow."  He identified it as having belonged to the Queen of Sheba because
    on its top was "the Hebrew letter 'S,' obviously a signet.  This has led
    to the myth that there was a "Queen of Sheba Ring."  Actually, the ring
    being promoted was the Initial Printing Ring premium, but later-day
    listeners pick up on the "greenish glow" reference, assuming it to be
    referring to luminosity (as in luminous plastic for the premium), whereas
    the key phrase was "the Hebrew letter S," representing an authenticating
    initial for documents.

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:04:43 -0500
    From: "ellsworth o johnson" <eojohnsonww2@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Radio Spirits products cheap

    I recvd a Nov 12 catalog mailing from
    [removed] that contains many Radio Spirits offerings at very
    low pricing. For example a collection    on 30 CDs
    including a 60 page booklet for $[removed] Also some on cassettes
    even cheaper.

    Best way to look at the offerings is go onto their website and click on
    search--then in the search block type--audio CD. or ---audio cassettes.

    Ellsworth Johnson
    Spokane, Wa

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:04:56 -0500
    From: "ellsworth o johnson" <eojohnsonww2@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  better advice to search Radio Spirits

    Re my previous email-- better to search Radio Spirits at [removed]
    by entering in the search block--Radio Spirits-- and be sure to check the
    publisher block. I just now tried it and it brings up 81 listings.

    Ellsworth Johnson
    Spokane, Wa

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:05:31 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Space Patrol

    The show ended in 1955, not 1959, at least on the network.  I once
    heard it said that Space Patrol continued locally in Los Angeles
    after that, but I don't know if there's any truth to it.

    When I met Ed Kemmer in 1958 the show was history. I was sitting in a bar
    (Nardy's), just up the street from the Pasadena Playhouse, having a beer.
    Someone sat down next to me and I looked and it was Commander Corey! I told
    him that I had watched Space Patrol as a kid, and he couldn't believe he was
    sitting there drinking with one of his kid fans. The show I watched was the
    local KTLA 15 minute version as I had pretty much outgrown the show by the
    time it went network.
    Ed seemed like a nice fellow but I had no idea about his war record until one
    of the recent posts about his death.

    George Aust

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:06:20 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Space Patrol

    The show ended in 1955, not 1959, at least on the network.  I once
    heard it said that Space Patrol continued locally in Los Angeles
    after that, but I don't know if there's any truth to it.

    When I met Ed Kemmer in 1958 the show was history. I was sitting in a bar
    (Nardy's), just up the street from the Pasadena Playhouse, having a beer.
    Someone sat down next to me and I looked and it was Commander Corey! I told
    him that I had watched Space Patrol as a kid, and he couldn't believe he was
    sitting there drinking with one of his kid fans. The show I watched was the
    local KTLA 15 minute version as I had pretty much outgrown the show by the
    time it went network.
    Ed seemed like a nice fellow but I had no idea about his war record until one
    of the recent posts about his death.

    George Aust

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:06:36 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  11-18 births/deaths

    November 18th births

    11-18-1860 - Jan Ignace Paderewski - Kurilovka. Poland - d. 6-21-1941
    concert pianist: "Paderewski's Eightieth Birthday Tribute"
    11-18-1888 - Frances Marion - San Francisco, CA - d. 5-12-1973
    screen writer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-18-1899 - Eugene Ormandy - Budapest, Hungary - d. 3-12-1985
    conductor: "Roxy's Gang"; "Phildelphia Orchestra"
    11-18-1900 - Don Quinn - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 12-30-1967
    writer: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Halls of Ivy"
    11-18-1901 - Dr. George Gallup - Jefferson, IA - d. 7-26-1984
    statistician: "Living 1948"
    11-18-1908 - Imogene Coca - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-2-2001
    comedienne: "Big Show"
    11-18-1909 - Johnny Mercer - Savannah, GA - d. 6-25-1976
    singer: "Camel Caravan"; "Johnny Mercer's Music Shop"; "Dinah Shore Show"
    11-18-1912 - Arthur Peterson - Mandan, ND - d. 10-31-1996
    actor: Reverend John Rutledge "Guiding Light"; "World's Great Novels"
    11-18-1926 - Dorothy Collins - Windsor, Ontario, Canada - d. 7-21-1994
    singer: "Your Hit Parade"
    11-18-1928 - Mickey Mouse - Hollywood, CA
    cartoon character: "Mickey Mouse Theatre of the Air"
    11-18-1945 - Glenn Walken - Queens, NY
    actor: (Brother of Christopher) Michael Bauer "Guiding Light"

    November 18th deaths

    05-29-1924 - Bob Corley - Macon, GA - d. 11-18-1971
    actor: Beulah "Beulah"
    07-06-1910 - Dorothy Kirsten - Montclair, NJ - d. 11-18-1992
    singer: "Keepsakes"; "Kraft Music Hall"; "Light Up Time"
    07-11-1894 - Walter Wanger - San Francisco, CA - d. 11-18-1968
    film producer: "Information Please"; "Hollywood Fights Back"; "Lux Radio
    Theatre"
    07-14-1880 - Donald Meek - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 11-18-1946
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    09-06-1888 - Joseph P. Kennedy - East Boston, MA - d. 11-18-1969
    ambassador to Great Britain: "Ambassador Joseph Kennedy"
    10-15-1900 - Fritz Feld - Berlin, Germany - d. 11-18-1993
    actor: "NBC Uinversity Theatre"; "Nightbeat"; "Advs. of the Saint"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:08:24 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Sperdvac

    My wife and I attended the Sperdvac convention again this year and it
    was terrific. The recreations were the best we had ever seen. Hal Stone
    directed Duffy's tavern and Anthony Tollin directed The Mysterious
    Traveler "Five Miles Down" on friday night. The latter show was
    introduced as being  a missing episode, not having survived and never
    having been recreated before. Now while I have no reason to doubt
    Anthony Tollin, there were several of us in the audience who believe we
    have heard this show before. As for me I'd say that it was within the
    last two years.  Does anyone know if "Five Miles Down " has been done on
    another show?

    On saturday night we had "The Horn Blows At Midnight" starring Jack
    Benny [removed] Eddie Carroll
    and directed by Barbara Watkins. This was followed by The Fred Allen
    Show  starring Harold Gould as Fred and a terrific Mrs Nussbaum as
    performed by Charlotte Rae. This show was ably directed by Gregg
    Oppenheimer, who we were fortunate enough to spend friday evening with.
    He is a very bright and interesting guy.  There were also two other
    recreations on saturday afternoon by the group New Frequency.
    The panel shows had some problems with guests having to back out at the
    last minute, but all proved interesting anyway. Walden Hughes, whose
    singers/music panel didn't show up, performed an interesting program of
    recorded interviews that he has done in the past. His calm demeanor and
    great knowledge of his subject kept us all entertained.
    There was much more but I suppose you had to be there to really
    appreciate it.
    I will add that although I didn't get to go to the Art Linkletter brunch
    on sunday morning , we did get to see him at the saturday night banquet
    when Sperdvac gave him a Life Acheivement Award.

    George Aust

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    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:35:52 -0500
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  First Female Disc Jockey

     Does anyone know who was the first Female Disc Jockey (did
    that term exist then?)?

    Who, Male and Female were the first Disc Jockeys (for want of a better term)
    in the [removed] and who may give Jean Hay a run for the World wide title as well?

    The first female disc jockey was Sybil Herrold.  She began playing records
    over the air in 1913 on a radio staion in San Jose California. The records
    were loaned to her by Sherman Clay & Co. a music store located near the radio
    staion. In return Sybil advertised the name of the store and announced that
    people could buy the records there. The store loved it because they would
    sell out of whatever records Sybil had played the day before. Even after she
    gave birth to her first child she continued hosting this regularly scheduled
    program the log of which was published in the San Jose newspaper. She brought
    her baby to the radio staion with her and listeners remembered years later
    that they could hear the baby crying over the air. Photos exist of the setup
    in the studio and clearly show the Victor phonograph sitting near the
    [removed] was 16 yrs old when she began broadcasting. The question
    should be, was she the first "female" disc jockey or the first disc jockey of
    either gender?

    George Aust

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    Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:29:56 -0500
    From: "kierniesky" <kierniesky@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Eddie Anderson

    Finding interviews with, and other information about Eddie Anderson seems to
    be difficult. Did he avoid the limelight? I know the basic facts of his life
    and career, but little in the way of anecdotes, issues, and personal
    opinions of the man himself. I've read all of the Benny literature, and I
    have the newspaper articles about Anderson collected in Laura's earlier The
    Jack Benny Times.  I believe there was a book about African-American actors
    in the 1930s and 1940s but I can't recall the name. Wasn't there a tragic
    death of one of his children? Any other little known facts, sources,
    anecdotes, etc. out [removed]

    -Nik Kierniesky
    -Gettysburg
    -Lurking for over a decade.

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    Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:57:17 -0500
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dayton Allen

>     Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:08:43 -0500
>     From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];

>     I'm not sure if Dayton Allen ever was on OTR, but his three major
>     distinctions definitely have OTR connexions: 1) work with Steve Allen; 2)
>     voices for various puppets on "Howdy Doody"; and 3) his comedy LP "Why
>     Not?', which capitalized on his early 1960s catch-phrase.

    Dayton Allen regularly used that catch-phrase on the Steve Allen Show, and for Awhile,
    everyone was saying it, with the distinctive intonation that he used.

    On Howdy Doody, he was the original voice and puppeteer for Mr. Bluster and Flubadub and
    also played several live characters, including Sir Archibald, the explorer, Ugly Sam, the
    wrestler, Pierre the French Chef, and Lanky Lou.  He was one of four cast members who
    tried to bargain as a unit for more money.  Management said that it couldn't deal with them
    as a unit because they weren't a valid collective bargaining unit, and the thing festered until,
    at a meeting called just before the Christmas Eve show in 1952, they either quit or were
    fired, depending on whose account you listen to.

    The others included Bob Keeshan, who played Clarabell, Rhoda Mann, who was Howdy's
    puppeteer and did some voices, and Bill Lecornec, who played Chief Thunderthud, Dr.
    Singasong, and Oilwell Willy and did the voice of DIlly Dally.  He was re-hired after a few
    months.

    Dayton Allen returned to the Howdy Doody Show as Pierre the French Chef for the 10th
    anniversary show in December 1957.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
    Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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