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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 317

Table Of Contents: 

	 Watching the radio
	 Train Shows
	 Watching the Radio
	
	 Jack Benny on A&E's "Biography"
	 OTR: DEAD or RESURRECTED?
	 Radio Quiz Shows
	 Re: Train OTR
	 CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER
	 Edge of the Cliff
	 Trains
	 Whit on Odessey
	 OTR Quiz Shows

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 96 10:45:56 -0500
From: welsa@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Watching the radio
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

I clearly recall every Sunday afternoon pulling a chair up to the radio 
and sitting there for 30 minutes with my eyes glued to it listening to 
THE SHADOW.  You couldn't have torn me away from it.
    
    I also recal as a kid lying on the floor watching my grandparents 
console radio while listening to BABY SNOOKS, FIBBER MCGEE and many more.
    
    Yes, I watched the radio for many years.
___
* Un

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 13:56:41 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Hinkley, H. K.)
To: otr@[removed] (OTR Digest)
Subject: Train Shows
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The Lone Ranger episode, "Iron Horse", 5/22/50 (according to my notes), is 
about the LR taking Chief Blackhawk for a ride in a locomotive.

I have another LR episode called "Bill Carlson & the Railroad", no date or 
plot available at the moment.

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:17:05 GMT
From: [removed]@[removed] (Hinkley, H. K.)
To: otr@[removed] (OTR Digest)
Subject: Watching the Radio
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Yes, Ken, I remember looking at the radio while listening when I was a wee 
lad.  Maybe I didn't really see it because of the pictures going on in my 
head.  I also hugged the thing as I reached behind to touch the aerial screw 
to improve reception.

[removed] Hinkley -- Freeport IL
hkhinkley@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 96 14:20:21 EDT
From: opa@[removed] (Mike Johnson)
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>


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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 13:39:10 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny on A&E's "Biography"
Message-Id: <[removed]@dlogics>
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Hope this isn't too late to be of value, but after scrolling through
as many of the long weekend's backed-up digests as time would permit
today, I've seen no other mention of this: Jack Benny will be the
subject of the A&E cable channel's "Biography" series tonight, Tuesday,
September 3rd, at 8:00 [removed] (Eastern time), and repeated at midnight 
(Eastern). Set your VCR for a one-hour program.

(...and don't get A&E mixed up with AMC; this is not the same channel
as that of "Remember WENN" :-)

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@[removed]
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 13:12:59 -0700
From: John Cunningham <johnc@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR: DEAD or RESURRECTED?
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Not to beat a "dead" horse with this topic, but I appreciate the recent 
comments of Joseph McGuire on these pages expressing the idea that OTR is 
not dead at all--it has been/is being resurrected in the form of "new 
time" radio drama (or audio theatre or whatever you want to call it).

"New Time" radio drama owes a tremendous debt to OTR.  It is, in fact, 
pretty much the same techniques just being done in a more modern style, 
with more modern equipment, and with today's storylines and philosophy 
(some of which we may not agree with, but what's new about that??!)

I hope that OTR will never die--in the sense that we collectors and fans 
will keep it available via tape.  But another aspect of this continuing 
life of OTR is that it has begotten a new generation of audio dramatists 
and, though they be few, they are doing some marvelous work.

I'd encourage my fellow OTR fans to seek out and try some of the "new 
time" audio drama that's out there--you might just be amazed at how much 
you'll enjoy it and amazed at how a few producers are furthering the 
legacy of OTR.  And (to briefly repeat something I saw here recently) if 
you have kids or grandkids whom you wish to introduce to OTR, try 
introducing them to the "Star Wars" new time drama first (or something 
similar)--then you may be suprised at how quickly they'll pick up on "The 
Shadow", etc!

It is true that "new time" dramas do not have the same "warm fuzzies" 
feeling that we associate with OTR.  This is because we ourselves do not 
have the same psyco-associations with the new material as we do with OTR.
Even those of us who did not grow up with OTR have a "motherhood and 
apple pie" feeling about it because it represents other things to us (a 
more innocent time, times when people were friendlier, more honest, 
etc---whatever). 

But "new time" programs do carry forth the OTR legacy and one way we can 
keep OTR alive (in addition to our own OTR fandom and this wonderful 
e-mail list) is to support the work of those who are perpetuating-- via 
"new time" audio (and usually "on a shoestring")-- this marvelous art 
form which we lovingly call "Old Time Radio".

Happy listening!

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:33:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: roy547@[removed] (Roy Trumbull)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Quiz Shows
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Don't recall any radio quiz show scandals. The prizes were so low.
"I have a lady in the balcony Doctor!"
"For 5 silver dollars can she tell [removed]"
That was Doctor IQ which was a favorite of comics who always
found something else to do with the lady besides ask her questions.

The 64 dollar question was hadly worth committing larceny over
since all you could do was wind up in the LEMAC box (CAMEL).
"You're a smartie, what a smartie. Take your seat in the LEMAC Box."
(Sung no less by a quartet.)

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:20:22 -0400
From: Neubacher@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Train OTR
Message-ID: <960903190156_276291332@[removed]>

     While it doesn't deal directly with traveling on trains the series Grand
Central Station the "Crossroads of a million private lives" did have a very
good opening where the announcer gave a description of the train reaching the
station past the "Long red row of tenament houses south of 141st street" and
"dives with a roar into the mile and a half  tunnel that burrows  beneath the
glitter and swank of Park Ave."

Bill Neubacher

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:13:35 -0600
From: aerickse@[removed] (Anna Ericksen)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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Hi OTRers,

I would like to just make a quick comment about some of the comments I've
read concerning the great classic "The CBS Radio Mystery Theater".  Time and
time again this show has been referred to as an "attempt", "weak attempt",
"poor try", or "sorry attempt" to bring back OTR.  Well, in defense of the
CBS Radio Mystery Theater, I have to say it was not an attempt but a success
at bringing back OTR.  This show outlasted many of the other OTR shows by
many years.  An Attempt?  No, a Success.  Lets give credit where credit is
due. This in my book is OTR. For as long as this show lasted, it made many
shows pale in comparison. Remember, 1974 grows further and further in the
past everyday!  The CBS Radio Mystery Theater was a GRAND success!!!!!


Pleasant [removed]

Carl

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:58:41 -0600
From: Chet Cox <CHCOX@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Edge of the Cliff
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

RLINSURF@[removed] (Jeffrey) sed:  "A sad example of this is his next
release,
a collection of the best of Cliff Edwards, better known to Disney fans as
the
voice of Jiminy Cricket, but who was also one of the most influential
recording stars of his era, and who, unfortunately, died impoverished,
and
unknown. "

Chet sez:  This _is_ sad.  I remember him from an appearance on _the
Mickey Mouse Club_ (the real one) with Jimmy Dodd, and thinking what a
charming gentleman he was.  Like most kids, I wore out his "Old
MacDonald" record (on 78, not the 45 re-issue) and really look forward to
this upcoming collection.  You will tell us when, where, and how to get it,
won't you?

Did Cliff Edwards do any OTR?

*jeep!
~~~~Chet
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Quote of the day:  "If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people
happy?"  --Lew Scannon
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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 96 22:52:26 -0400
From: fish <fish@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Trains
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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I have an episode of "Nick Carter, Master Detective" that takes place entirely on a train.  It's called "Murder On Mad Mountain."  The train, however, is most conveniently snowbound throughout the [removed]

Richard Fish

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 23:13:53 -0500
From: Mike Fields <mfields@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Whit on Odessey
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
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A few issues back, it was mentioned that the actor that played Whittaker on
the Adventures in Odessey program died. I was wondering if anyone knows his
name. He had a very recognizable voice but I can't place him. I believe that
he also played the father on the old cartoons "Davey and Goliah" that would
play on Sunday Am when I was young. 
Mike Fields
Kokomo IN

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:04:25 -0700
From: joseph@[removed] (joseph)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Quiz Shows
Message-Id: <v01530500ae5254938e43@[[removed]]>
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>> hi All,
>> Just saw the movie ?Quiz Show the other night and I was wondering if
>> during the quiz show scandalls if any radio quiz shows were found guilty
>> of any wroung doing?
>
>By 1958-59, when the Quiz Show scandal broke, I doubt there were any radio
>quiz shows left (except possibly the radio version of Groucho Marx's
>show, if that was still on).  The really big money shows were exclusively
>television creations.
True about TV, but one of the rationals was that OTR quiz shows were often
played for fun. The OTR quiz shows never dwelt seriously on whether the
contestents "were in the know." But for $64 and lower everyone tended to
feel it was a GAME show, not for real. A classic was "It Pays to Be
Ignorant" a show that used quiz shows for laughs.

Joseph M




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