Subject: [removed] Digest V2010 #77
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Date: 4/28/2010 7:57 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2010 : Issue 77
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      4-25 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Re: OTR Injustice Corrected           [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
      Stealing logs                         [ "Laura Leff" <president@[removed] ]
      Empire Builders radio series          [ gnrocky@[removed] ]
      4-26 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Vital Stats on Sandra Michael         [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
      Re: OTR Injustice                     [ Campbell Connell <rcconnell@[removed] ]

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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:12:01 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:32:46 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-25 births/deaths

    April 25th births

    04-25-1874 - Guglielmo Marconi - Bologna, Italy - d. 7-20-1937
    responsible for the first transtlantic transmission of radio waves in
    1901
    04-25-1887 - Charles E. Fuller - Los Angeles, CA - d. 3-18-1968
    preacher: "Old Fashioned Revival Hour"; "Heart to Heart"
    04-25-1899 - Guinn (Big Boy) Williams - Decatur, TX - d. 6-6-1962
    actor: "Biography In Sound"
    04-25-1900 - Gloria Ann Simpson - Cleveland, OH - d. 10-21-1956
    actor: "The NBC University Theatre"
    04-25-1904 - Huey Long - Sealy Austin County, TX - d. 6-10-2009
    jazz guitarist: The Ink Spots
    04-25-1907 - Paula Trueman - NYC - d. 3-23-1994
    actor: "Great Plays"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    04-25-1908 - Edward R. Murrow - Pole Cat Creek, NC - d. 4-27-1965
    newscaster: (This is London) "Edward R. Murrow with the News"
    04-25-1909 - Karl Farr - Rochelle, TX - d. 9-20-1961
    singer: (Sons of the Pioneers) "The Roy Rogers Show)
    04-25-1915 - Cliff Bruner - Houston, TX - d. 8-25-2000
    fiddle: "The Musical Brownies"
    04-25-1916 - Davy Kaye - London, England - d. 2-3-1998
    british comic actor who worked in radio during the war
    04-25-1916 - Irving Gaynor Neiman - d. 8-25-1996
    began career by writing scripts for NBC
    04-25-1918 - Astrid Varnay - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 9-4-2006
    operatic soprano: "Metropolitan Opera"; "Operatic Excerpts"
    04-25-1918 - Ella Fitzgerald - Newport News, VA - d. 6-15-1996
    singer: "Flow Gently, Sweet Rhythm"; "Jubilee"
    04-25-1919 - Albert Aley - NYC - d. 1-1-1986
    actor: Hop Harrigan "Hop Harrigan"; Bob James "Stella Dallas"
    04-25-1921 - Robert Q. Lewis - NYC - d. 12-11-1991
    disc jockey, comedian, host: "Arthur Godrey Time"; "Robert Q. Lewis
    Show"

    April 25th deaths

    01-04-1911 - Fred Killian - d. 4-25-1994
    producer, director: "Those Sensational Years"
    01-09-1915 - Anita Louise - NYC - d. 4-25-1970
    actor: "Stars Over Hollywood"
    01-16-1907 - Alexander Knox - Strathroy, Ontario, Canada - d. 4-25-1995
    actor: "Document A/777", BBC
    01-19-1906 - Lanny Ross - Seattle, WA - d. 4-25-1988
    singer: "Lanny Ross Program"; "Maxwell House Show Boat"
    01-22-1878 - Constance Collier - Windsor, Berkshire, England - d.
    4-25-1955
    actor: Jessie Atwood "Kate Hopkins, Angel of Mercy"
    02-09-1912 - Bob Armstrong - Buffalo, NY - d. 4-25-1994
    orchestra director: NBC 1942
    02-16-1896 - Alexander Brailowsky - Kiev, Ukriane, Russia - d. 4-25-1976
    pianist: "Music America Loves Best"; "New York Philharmonic"
    02-27-1923 - Dexter Gordon - Los Angeles, Ca - d. 4-25-1990
    saxophonist: "Newport Jazz Festival";"White House Jazz Festival"
    03-10-1905 - Richard Haydn - London, England - d. 4-25-1985
    actor: Professor Lemuel Carp "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    03-15-1919 - Merv Baldrica - d. 4-25-2006
    sportscaster: WMIQ Iron Mountain, Michigan
    04-05-1928 - Michael Bryant - London, England - d. 4-25-2002
    character actor: "Bequest to the Nation"
    05-01-1924 - Art Fleming - The Bronx, NY - d. 4-25-1995
    host/announcer: "When Radio Was"
    05-23-1921 - Humphrey Lyttelton - Windsor, England - d. 4-25-2008
    host: "I'm Sorry, I Haven't A Clue"
    06-08-1907 - Roy Lockwood - Bristol, England - d. 4-25-2002
    director: "Valiant Lady"
    07-01-1912 - Murray Matheson - Casterto, Australia - d. 4-25-1985
    actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
    07-03-1906 - George Sanders - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 4-25-1972
    host: "High Adventure"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "[removed] Steel Hour";
    "Cavalcade of America"
    07-16-1911 - Ginger Rogers - Independence, MO - d. 4-25-1995
    actor: "Star and the Story"; "Packard Hour"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    07-29-1911 - Florence Freeman - NYC - d. 4-25-2000
    actor: Ellen Brown "Young Widder Brown"; Wendy Warren "Wendy Warren
    and the News"
    08-12-1916 - Dorothy Allen - Oakland, CA - d. 4-25-1996
    singer: "Bob Crosby Show"; "Shep Fields Orchestra"
    08-17-1907 - Bernard Schoenfeld - d. 4-25-1990
    writer: "Brave New World"; "This is Our Eneny"
    09-01-1900 - Don Wilson - Lincoln, NE - d. 4-25-1982
    announcer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Good News of 1941"
    10-01-1903 - George Coulouris - Manchester, England - d. 4-25-1989
    actor: Hugh Drummond "Bulldog Drummond"; Frank Harrison "As the Twig
    Is Bent"
    11-02-1917 - Janette Davis - Memphis, TN - d. 4-25-2005
    singer: "Arthur Godfrey Time"; "Avalon Time"; "Red Skelton Show"
    11-15-1902 - Clyde Kittell - Sayre, PA - d. 4-25-1962
    announcer: "Hello Peggy"; "Name Three"
    11-19-1922 - Dick Wesson - Maine - d. 4-25-1996
    announcer: "Space Patrol"; "Hollywood Open House"

    Ron

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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:33:05 -0400
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: OTR Injustice Corrected
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    A researcher who steals another's work and passes it off as their own is not
    a researcher he/she is a thief plain and [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:33:16 -0400
    From: "Laura Leff" <president@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Stealing logs
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    When I published the first edition of 39 Forever back in 1989, someone turned
    around and plagiarized a substantial part of it shortly thereafter.  Obviously
    this was before wide use of the Internet, but it was still very upsetting to
    see someone else cashing in on my own research and writing.  I wanted to
    pursue legal action, but I was only 20 and still living and home, and my
    parents had no stomach for footing IJBFC legal bills.

    I have even had someone urge me to speed up on publication of Volume 3
    (television) of the second edition of 39 Forever, because they wanted to start
    copying all the information into IMDB.  What's up with that?!?!  I mean, I
    guess it's their typing time to transcribe it, but like Martin said, I'm
    spending a good chunk of time and change to go out and get this material.
    Hurry up and work, because I want to give it away for free!  It will probably
    end up there eventually anyway, but it felt pretty insulting.

    A few times I have seen people copy material directly out of The Jack Benny
    Times and publish it here on the OTR Digest as their own (one that comes to
    mind is the story of Stuart Canin's appearance on the 12/30/36 Town Hall
    Tonight [removed] just the text of what was broadcast, but my own original
    narrative that wove around it).  I wouldn't have had a problem if the person
    had asked me beforehand or given me credit, but it didn't happen.  Like
    Elizabeth, this is part of the reason you've seen less of me here for a while.
    A lot of people don't value what they can get for free, or simply steal.

    --Laura Leff
    President, IJBFC
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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:35:17 -0400
    From: gnrocky@[removed]
    To: discussion digest Old Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Empire Builders radio series

    I've been a subscriber to this digest for about a year. I truly appreciate
    all the knowledge I've gained on a variety of old time radio topics. I'd like
    to share what my particular interest is in OTR, and make a general appeal for
    help and information.

    As much as I enjoy OTR in general, my sole purpose for participating here is
    to aid my research into a single OTR program: "Empire Builders", which aired
    from January 1929 to June 1931. This show was sponsored by the Great Northern
    Railway and was broadcast by NBC, first out of New York City and then,
    starting in September 1930, from the Merchandise Mart studios in Chicago.

    I'm a member of the Great Northern Railway Historical Society, so naturally
    I'm approaching this topic from the angle of a railroad enthusiast. Unlike
    most of my fellow GN Railway fans, however, I am not very interested in
    locomotives and such. I'm far more interested in what a lot of railfans
    consider to be "human interest" topics, such as the "Empire Builders" radio
    show.

    I'm familiar with the only known recordings of the shows, namely the 9 sound
    checks made in late 1930 and early 1931. I've also gained excellent
    information from various internet sources, such as the information posted by
    Rich Samuels and Mr. King. So far, my research has taken me to the Library of
    American Broadcasting (where Michael Henry of this group was a big help to me
    - Thanks Mike!), the Library of Congress, and the GN company archives in St.
    Paul, MN.

    I have lots of questions to ask, but for starters, I could use some advice on
    the holdings of the Library of Congress. I have another opportunity to go
    there in early May, but just for one day. Their NBC Finding Aid is very
    helpful, but I have very little time there on this trip. I'm hoping to locate
    some continuities (scripts), and the finding aid suggests they have a lot of
    this type of material on microfilm from WEAF and WJZ. The "Empire Builders"
    show was broadcast from these two stations for the first two seasons. If
    anyone in this group has accessed those microfilm records, can you tell me if
    that's a realistic place to look for copies of the continuities (circa 1929
    and 1930)? And if so, do their microfilm readers have the capability to print
    screen shots, or save them to a researcher's thumb drive, or both?

    BTW, I did read the helpful comments from Elizabeth McLeod on the FAQ page (
    [removed]#Answer34 ). I do not expect to locate any
    pertinent audio recordings there, however.

    Another resource that I am keenly interested in locating would be any photos
    (likely, press release photos) of the actors, studios, sound effects, etc.,
    associated with the show. Are there any particularly helpful resources of
    such photos anywhere? I'd even be interested in photos of a more generic
    nature, such as depicting the NBC studios in New York in the 1929-1930 era,
    and the Merchandise Mart studios in Chicago circa 1930-31. Photos of the
    individual performers will also be valuable. Some of the featured performers
    included: Harvey Hays, Virginia Gardiner, Bernardine Flynn, Bob White, Betty
    White (no, not that Betty White), Andy Sanella (bandleader and musician), and
    Bob MacGimsey (incredible 3-part harmony whistler). This program also helped
    launch the career of Don Ameche. One of their regular announcers was Ted
    Pearson. Key personalities not heard over the air included writers [removed]
    Bierstadt and [removed] Cooper, and Don Bernard and Niles Trammel of NBC. Are
    there any NBC photograph archives that might yield photos of any of these
    people or topics?

    If you have information to share that might be of general interest to the
    whole group, a public reply here would be great. Otherwise, please feel free
    to contact me directly at this address.

    Thanks!

    Scott Tanner
    Edmonds, WA

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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:45:05 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  4-26 births/deaths

    April 26th births

    04-26-1883 - Harry Sothern - London, England - d. 2-22-1957
    actor: "Counterspy"; "Kitty Foyle"; "True Story Hour"
    04-26-1890 - Edgar Kennedy - Monterey, CA - d. 11-9-48
    actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Radio Reader's Digest"
    04-26-1891 - Paul Hoffmann - Western Springs, IL - d. 10-8-1974
    foreign aid administrator: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy"
    04-26-1893 - Anita Loos - Sisson (now Mt. Shasta), CA - d. 8-18-1981
    screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-26-1898 - David Freedman - Botosani, Romania - d. 12-8-1936
    gag writer for Eddie Cantor
    04-26-1899 - Joseph Fuchs - NYC - d. 3-14-1997
    violinist: "Longines Symphonette"
    04-26-1905 - Cecilia Parker - Fort William, Ontario, Canada - d.
    7-25-1993
    actor: "Good News of 1939"; "Mail Call"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-26-1906 - [removed] "Albert" Alexander - Winthrop, MA - d. 2-24-1967
    moderator: "Goodwill Court/Court of Human Relations"
    04-26-1907 - Holland Engle - Wheeling, WV - d. 3-24-1988
    announcer, emcee: "Ladies Fair"; "Variety Fair"
    04-26-1910 - Grace Coppin - Murray, UT - d. 4-7-1993
    actor: Maude "The Life of Riley"
    04-26-1912 - John McGovern - d. 7-25-1985
    actor: Mike Gallagher "Highway Patrol"; Harold Wilkinson "The O'Neills"
    04-26-1914 - H. L. Gold - Montreal, Canada - d. 2-21-1996
    writer: "Molle Mystery Theatre"; "X Minus One"
    04-26-1914 - "Cheeky" Charlie Chester - Eastbourne, England - d.
    6-26-1997
    comedian: "Stand Easy"
    04-26-1916 - Frances Robinson - Fort Wandsworth, NY - d. 8-16-1971
    actor: Helen Asher "Richard Diamond"; Claire 'Brooksie' Brooks "Let
    George Do It"
    04-26-1916 - Vic Perrin - Menomonee Falls, WI - d. 7-4-1989
    actor: Ross Farnsworth "One Man's Family"; Sergeant Gorce "Fort Laramie"
    04-26-1918 - Helen Burgess - Portland, OR - d. 4-7-1937
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-26-1920 - Frankie Scott - Georgia - d. 4-24-2004
    performer: "Grand Ole Opry"
    04-26-1922 - Eric Sinclair - Burkburnett, TX - d. 1-26-2004
    actor: "Alias Jane Doe"
    04-26-1922 - Mike Kellin - Hartford, CT - d. 8-26-1983
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    04-26-1923 - Berwyn Ableman - 2-4-2002
    sportscaster and newscaster
    04-26-1924 - Harold Jack Bloom - NYC - d. 8-27-1999
    writer: "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"
    04-26-1927 - Granny Hamner - Richmond, VA - d. 9-12-1993
    sportscaster" "Sports Hilites"

    April 26th deaths

    01-09-1914 - Gypsy Rose Lee - Seattle, WA - d. 4-26-1970
    exotic dancer: "Advs. of Ellery Queen"; "What Makes You Tick?"
    01-13-1901 - A. B. Guthrie - Bedford, IN - d. 4-26-1991
    author, screenwriter: "NBC University Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    02-13-1923 - Gene Ames - Malden, MA - d. 4-26-1997
    singer,: (Ames Brothers) "Sing It Again"; "Robert Q. Lewis Show"
    02-16-1912 - Del Sharbutt - Ft. Worth, TX - d. 4-26-2002
    announcer: "Hobby Lobby"; "Jack Benny Program"; "Victory Theatre"
    02-18-1890 - Edward Arnold - NYC - d. 4-26-1956
    actor: President "Mr. President"
    02-22-1911 - Vaughn Taylor - Boston, MA - d. 4-26-1983
    actor: "National Travel Club"; "There is No Night"
    02-26-1919 - Mason Adams - NYC - d. 4-26-2005
    actor: Larry 'Pepper' Young "Pepper Young's Family" Ned Scott "Jones
    and I"
    03-03-1913 - Margaret Bonds - Chicago, IL - d. 4-26-1972
    composer: "Chicago Women's Orchestra"
    05-08-1913 - Sid James - Newcastle, Natal, South Africa - d. 4-26-1976
    comedian: "Hancock's Half Hour"
    05-27-1928 - Jack Baker - d. 4-26-2002
    disk jockey: "Sunday Sound Stage"
    07-01-1909 - Madge Evans - NYC - d. 4-26-1981
    panelist: "Leave It to the Girls"; "Who Said That?"
    07-12-1909 - Joey Faye - NYC - d. 4-26-1997
    actor: Recruit "The Rookies"
    07-13-1908 - Tim Spencer - Webb City, MO - d. 4-26-1974
    singer: (Sons of the Pioneers) "The Roy Rogers Show"
    07-15-1897 - Howard Lanin - Philadelphia, PA - d. 4-26-1991
    bandleader: ((King of Society Dance Music) "Atwater Kent Hour";
    "Campbell Soup Show"
    08-06-1911 - Lucille Ball - Celoron, NY - d. 4-26-1989
    comedian: Liz Cooper "My Favorite Husband"; Lucy Ricardo "I Love Lucy"
    08-13-1909 - John Beal - Joplin, MO - d. 4-26-1997
    actor: Bonnie Doon "Amazing Mr. Tutt"; "Box 13"; "Favorite Story"
    08-21-1904 - William Allen "Count" Basie - Red Bank, NJ - d. 4-26-1994
    bandleader: "Command Performance"; "Jubilee"
    08-26-1915 - Jim Davis - Edgereton, MO - d. 4-26-1981
    actor: "Dangerous Assignment"
    08-28-1920 - Don Glasser - Derry, PA - d. 4-26-2004
    bandleader: "Don Glasser and His Orchestra"
    09-15-1913 - Henry Brant - Montreal, Canada - d. 4-26-2008
    composer: "The Eternal Light"
    10-08-1871 - Albert Edward Wiggam - Austin, IN - d. 4-26-1957
    biologist: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
    10-08-1908 - Albert Maltz - NYC - d. 4-26-1985
    screen writer: (One of Hollywood Ten) "Words at War"; "Lux Radio
    Theatre"
    10-17-1903 - Irene Noblette Ryan - El Paso, TX - d. 4-26-1973
    actor: "Tim & Irene Sky Road Show"; "Royal Crown Revue"
    11-08-1865 - Tim Frawley - Washington, [removed] - d. 4-26-1936
    actor: Old Ranger "Death Valley Days"
    11-09-1961 - Jill Dando - Somerset, England - d. 4-26-1999
    BBC radio newscaster, victim of a murder
    11-17-1905 - Josef Marais - Sir Lowey's Pass, South Africa - d.
    4-26-1978
    singer: "African Trek/Sundown on the Veld"; "Meredith Willson Show"
    12-04-1915 - Allan Jackson - Hot Springs, AR - d. 4-26-1976
    newscaster for the CBS network for 32 years
    12-09-1911 - Broderick Crawford - Philadelphia, PA - d. 4-26-1986
    actor: "Hedda Hopper Show"; "Hallmark Playhouse"; Cavalcade of America"
    12-18-1908 - Celia Johnson - Ellerker Gate, Richmond, England - d.
    4-26-1982
    actor: "Desert Island Disks"; Read poetry and short stories during WWII
    xx-xx-1915 - Wendell Holmes - d. 4-26-1962
    actor: "Dimension X"; "Mysterious Traveler"; "Words at War"

    Ron

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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:45:12 -0400
    From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
    To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Vital Stats on Sandra Michael

    On 4-11-10 David Siegel issued a plea for information regarding the
    birth and death of Sandra Michael, prominent author of daytime
    serials (one of which, "Against the Storm") won a Peabody Award.

    I am pleased to announce that some OTR teamwork has located all the
    necessary data. Our team consisted of computer-whiz Irene Heinstein
    in the San Francisco area, Michael Henry, staff member of Library of
    American Broadcasting, U of M, College Park, MD (which archives the
    Sandra Michael collection) and yours truly in Fairfax, VA. Our
    results are set forth below, and have been forwarded to the Keeper of
    OTR Stats, Ron Sayles in Milwaukee:

    Born: Anna Marie Mikkelsen, May 20. 1906, Vejlby, Aarhus, Denmark
    (about 115 miles from Copenhagen)

    Died: Anna Marie Gibbs, August 22, 2003, Rancho Santa Fe, San Diego, CA

    NOTE:  Gibbs was her married name; her professional name was Sandra
    Michael. She died at age 97.

    Jack French
    Editor: RADIO RECALL
    <[removed]>

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    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:45:26 -0400
    From: Campbell Connell <rcconnell@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: OTR Injustice
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    I think it is great to pay tribute to those who worked hard trying to find
    important information about shows and construct accurate logs from a sea of
    recordings.  However, one needs to be realistic.  It's silly to expect to
    receive never ending attribution for basic information like episode titles and
    air dates.  How many techniques shown in math textbooks were originated by
    someone who never receives credit.  Knowledge, especially very basic
    knowledge, has a life of its own.  Someone who seeks their own immortality
    through OTR should write a book.  Unless there are multiple works on a single
    show (usually unlikely), true fans of the show will always seek out that
    book.  Otherwise, the real reward from research should be increasing others
    fondness for something that one loves.  BTW: Elizabeth has a stronger case
    as the market for a book was weakened by others actions.

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