Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #282
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/29/2001 10:22 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2001 : Issue 282
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Johnnys background music              [ "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed]; ]
  Country OTR                           [ Tom and Susan Kleinschmidt <tomkle@ ]
  just spoke with Thurl Ravenscroft     [ Ben Ohmart <bloodbleeds@[removed]; ]
  Demographics                          [ DIANEK9331@[removed] ]
  Re: Ad Slogans                        [ "Tony Bell" <t_bell61@[removed]; ]
  Re: Have a Coke                       [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  [removed]                             [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
  Themes                                [ Partridge <rpartrid@[removed]; ]
  Coca-Cola & Cocaine                   [ "David H. Buswell" <dbuswell@rivnet ]
  Ferde Grofe                           [ ArtsMilitaria@[removed] (Arthur Fun ]
  Re: Slogans                           [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Christmas and the NBC Chimes          [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
  Re: [removed]                         [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
  Re: Robert Hall                       [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
  Bea Benadaret Twombley                [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
  Coke                                  [ "tc" <radioskeleton@[removed]; ]
  Coca-Cola & Cocaine                   [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
  Age                                   [ "schickedanz" <schickedanz@[removed]; ]
  "On the Trail" in the loop            [ "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed]; ]
  Arthur Treacher                       [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
  Demographics Survey & "Words At War"  [ Roger Lorette <webmaster@cyber49er. ]
  On the Trail of Grofe                 [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  Obsolete products: Pepsin and Blackj  [ ChibiBarako <cvc@[removed]; ]
  Abbott and Costello convention        [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  age of otr fans                       [ Eric Hardy <ericandsusie@earthlink. ]
  Slogans                               [ ChibiBarako <cvc@[removed]; ]

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:35:28 -0400
From: "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Johnnys background music

The background music while Johnny did his CALLLLLLL FOR PHILLLLIP
MORRRRRRRIS
was "The Grand Canyon Suite" composed by Mr. Gershwin.

Nope, Mr. Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue was orchestrated by Ferde Grofe for
the Paul Whiteman's Orchestra's premiere of the composition. Maybe Mr.
Gershwin rode one of Ferde Grofe's mules "On the Trail."

Ed Kindred who was born in the Grand Canyon State shortly after the canyon
was formed.

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:35:39 -0400
From: Tom and Susan Kleinschmidt <tomkle@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Country OTR

Hello All,

          I thought this story might be of interest to some on the list. It
will be of special interest to fans of classic country music from the
1950's(Bill Knowlton are you there?)

[removed]

Tom

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:18:54 -0400
From: Ben Ohmart <bloodbleeds@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  just spoke with Thurl Ravenscroft

Spoke with Thurl a half hour ago, for a book I'm
doing. He sounds GggggggREAT! If anyone would like his
address, to send him a show or 2 that he appeared on
with the Sportsmen or Mellowmen, let me know. He'd
love to hear some more. A fine fellow.

=====
Check out Fibber McGee's Scrapbook,
a new otr book!
[removed]

Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:19:09 -0400
From: DIANEK9331@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Demographics

I am 38, female. I first heard OTR when I was 12. I had borrowed some old
records from the public library, heard "Gaslight" and I was hooked. I didn't
start collecting until I was 25 and I now have about 4000 shows on tape.
Diane

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:19:49 -0400
From: "Tony Bell" <t_bell61@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Ad Slogans

Harlan Zinck (in reference to Elizabeth McLeod's quiz) writes:

"Your ticket of admission -- your loyalty to XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX!"

This one is making me nuts 'cause I've *heard* it - in fact, I can hear

That would be MAXWELL HOUSE COFFEE, sponsor to the "Maxwell House
Showboat"...the announcer Harlan remembers is "Tiny" Ruffner.

Tony Bell

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:21:23 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Have a Coke

A. Joseph Ross wonders,

I've heard this before, and I've wondered whether this is true or just
apocryphal.  Can one of our history experts tell us whether this really is
so?  And, if so, the details?

Indeed so -- Coca-Cola is the descendent of a long line of cocaine-laced
stimulant beverages popular during the latter half of the 19th Century.
The direct ancestor of Coke was "Pemberton's French Wine of Coca," a
ripoff of Vin Mariani, a cocaine/wine elixir that had swept Europe in the
1880s, and had allegedly received the personal endorsement of Thomas
Edison, Buffalo Bill Cody, and Pope Leo XIII. Dr. John S. Pemberton, an
Atlanta pharmacist and patent-medicine entrepreneur, had successfully
pirated the Vin Mariani formula with his own product, but anti-liquor
sentiment in the South forced him to reformulate the drink -- removing
the wine, and adding a mixture of kola nut extract and "fruit oils." The
cocaine remained, however, and the result, in 1886, was "Coca-Cola."

The cocaine content of the original Coke was well-known -- thruout the
South, the popular nickname for Coca-Cola was "dope" -- but in the 1890s
public sentiment began to turn against the drug -- which at that time was
not illegal -- and the company began first to downplay, and then to deny
its presence in the drink. There was never *much* cocaine in the formula
-- estimates based on company documents dating to the 1890s suggest it
contained [removed] milligrams of the drug per 6 1/2 ounce serving, but some
analysts have suggested the cocaine's impact was amplified by the
caffeine in the beverage to create a much more substantial buzz.

The formula for Coca-Cola was being steadily revised and refined during
the 1890s, and the cocaine content was slowly but steadily reduced during
this period. However, around the turn of the century there was a wave of
racially-charged anti-Coke hysteria in the press -- Southern "temperance"
papers began to claim that the drink was creating mobs of "Negro dope
fiends" in the cities, and this led to increasing public pressure against
the company. In response to this outcry, in August of 1903 The Coca-Cola
Company hired the Schaefer Alkaloid Works in New Jersey to "de-cocainize"
all of the coca leaves used as a flavoring agent in the product -- and
that firm's descendant continues to perform that task to this day. While
coca leaves are still part of the formula, since 1903 there has been no
measurable cocaine in Coca-Cola.

Elizabeth

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:58:01 -0400
From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  [removed]

Harlen Zinck really came up with the answers to
Elizabeth's tough quiz [removed], Harlen!

The answer to Elizabeth's question #10 in her
"take it up a notch"quiz  is "[removed]
for the skin you love to touch."

BTW, does anyone remember "Italian Balm"?
It's another smoothing, healing skin lotion,
sort of like what is now (and back then, too)
"Corn Huskers Lotion" - which is quite good for chapped skin, incidentally!
<no endorsement intended >

Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:58:12 -0400
From: Partridge <rpartrid@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Themes

Did radio give us any original theme music? The themes most familiar to
me are all "borrowed" - Love in Bloom; Love Nest; Street Scene; William
Tell; Flight of the Bumble Bee etc.  I can't think of one enduring
original radio theme. Can anyone?

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:00:41 -0400
From: "David H. Buswell" <dbuswell@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Coca-Cola & Cocaine

Counselor Ross asked about the use of cocaine in the early Coca-Cola.  While
I cannot cite proof that will stand of in court, given the circumstances of
Coca-Cola's birth and the absence of [removed] drug laws at the time I am
reasonably sure that in fact the "rumor" is true.

Dr. John Pemberton, a pharmacist in Atlantic, mixed up a syrup from his
pharacopia.  He then cut it with carbonated water and sold it at Jacobs'
Drug Store as a tonic.  Early ads touted it as "an ideal brain tonic---a
delightful summer and winter beverage for headache and exhaustion at soda
fountains."  Given his profession and the fact that any number of now
controlled substances were easily obtained, [removed], cocaine, codeine, Heroine
(originally a trade name of a drug though to be less addictive than
morphine).  Pemberton sold an average of nine drinks a day.  Two years later
he died and an Atlanta businessman, Asa Candler, brought up the rights and
the secret syrup formula known as "7X." Commercial historians have called
"7X" the most closely guarded trade secret in the world."

For the first decade, Candler sold Coca-Cola syrup to soda fountains
throughout the South.  It was a druggist In Vicksburg who first thought of
bottling the drink in his back room and selling it to lumber camps and
plantations along the Mississippi. The folks back in Atlanta loved this idea
and the rest is history.  By the end of World War I, there were nearly a
thousand independent bottlers

My take is that Coca-Cola did indeed originally have a pinch of cocaine in
each bottle of syrup.   However, after Pemberton died and a few years later
Teddy Roosevelt began his task as a major reformer of many aspects of
society including food and drug laws, Asa Candler dropped the pinch of coke.
This probably occurred either after Pemberton died or upon Candler's seeing
that the laws were clearly going to change.

In any event, I suppose it's an academic argument in that you could probably
count the number of people who have actually seen the "7X" formula on two
hands.

Dave

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:01:03 -0400
From: ArtsMilitaria@[removed] (Arthur Funk)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ferde Grofe

When I took freshman music appreciation (YEARRRRS ago), our prof told us
a story about Grofe and Rhapsody in Blue.  According to him George
Gershwin accepted a commission (from Whiteman?) to write this piece.
But he was at the time more interested in working on an opera (Porgy &
Bess?) and kept putting off working on it.  Finally, with the deadline
approaching, so the story goes, and under pressure from brother Ira,
Gershwin jotted down some melody lines and gave them to Grofe to flesh
out (orchestrate).  The result was the Rhapsody in Blue which is
credited to Gershwin but was actually more of a collaboration between
him and Grofe.  This may be largely apocryphal but it sure makes an
interesting story.

Regards to all,
Art Funk

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:01:09 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Slogans

Harlan Zinck wrote:

1. "Eat three cakes of Fleischmann's Yeast daily."

Ah, the [removed] tones of Rudy Vallee)

Correct, but Rudy himself never actually did the commercials -- that
responsibility fell to various combinations of Graham McNamee, Jimmy
Wallington, House Jameson, and the distinguished Dr. R. E. Lee, Director
of Fleischmann's Health Research. In all the years Fleischmann's
sponsored Vallee, the commercials never once referred to the use of yeast
in baking -- Standard Brands used Joe Penner's program to promote that
aspect of the product.


3. "Your ticket of admission -- your loyalty to XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX!"

This one is making me nuts 'cause I've *heard* it ...a dramatic anthology
series, maybe?

Two different variety programs, actually, but both aired Thursday nights
at 9.

4. "Use Pepsodent toothpaste twice a day -- see your dentist at least
twice a year."

Weren't they sponsoring A&A at this time?

Correct. Some dental historians believe that Bill Hay's constant
repetition of this slogan during the Depression years (on both A&A and
"The Goldbergs") was responsible more than any other factor for creating
the American custom of going to the dentist every six months.

6. "There is no spit in Cremo."

I hope Elizabeth explains this slogan, 'cause it's worth retelling!)

Correct. Basically, this was a very clever way to take a cheap, evil,
smelly, three-for-ten-cents cigar and market it as a modern, sanitary
product. Fine cigars were and are hand-rolled -- requiring some sort of
moistening agent to stick the wrapper closed. The idea behind the Cremo
slogan was to create the image of a big sweaty Cuban spitting on
expensive cigars to seal them -- whereas a machine-made Cremo was
Untouched By Human Saliva. There is a story that American Tobacco Company
president G. W. Hill introduced this campaign to his board of directors
by firing a huge loogie into the middle of the conference table -- and
then announcing that he had just committed a repulsive act: but for that
reason those present would never forget it. Constant repetition of the
word "spit" in the radio commercials would create the same impression in
the minds of the audience. Hill was not a subtle man.

10. "XXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXX -- for the skin you love to touch!"

Got this [removed] it Vasoline related?

The Skin you Love To Touch part is right -- but it's not Vaseline. But
all the girls and women who tried the Half Face Test were impressed with
the benefits of using this product.

Elizabeth

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:39:54 -0400
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Christmas and the NBC Chimes

Elizabeth recently wrote:

Deagan also made so-called "railroad" chimes, which mounted the note bars
 on hollow metal sounding tubes of varying length. These were *not* used
 by NBC, but did apparently show up at some non-NBC stations, where
 different patterns of chimes were used as local identifiers. The cheap
 bronze-colored novelty chimes distributed by NBC in the late thirties
 were patterned after these "railroad" chimes, and not after the models
 actually used on air, probably because they were less expensive to make.


It was the Christmas of 1941 or '42, when I was 11 or 12, that my folks gave
me a so-called sound-effects studio (which, of course, my dad -- bless him --
had to assemble *after* I went to bed).  The console was made of cardboard
("put tab D in slot D"), and it had mounted on it a variety of sound-effects
devices such as a door and a wind simulator (a flap over a crankable drum).

Also, however, there were three tone bars that sounded NBC's G-E-C notes.  I
believe the whole console was labeled with RCA or NBC in the name.  The tone
bars were flat metal strips mounted on supports and, if I recall correctly,
they were each mounted over a tube that hung underneath the desktop to
reinforce the sound, as Elizabeth mentioned.

Everytime I hear the NBC chimes I think, of course, of all those OTR
programs.  But I also can't help but recall that SFX studio I found waiting
for me one Christmas morning.

Spence

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:41:27 -0400
From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: [removed]

"Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed]; wrote:

Harlan Zinck really came up with the answers to
Elizabeth's tough quiz [removed], Harlan!

Thanks for the kudos, Russ. For some reason, I remember trivial stuff like
this far better than commercial catch phrases from my own youth (I'm 41).
Perhaps its because, while my contemporaries were wearing platform shoes
and doing the Hustle, I was listening to Fred Allen shows in my bedroom. If
only I'd bought more transcriptions then -- and if only I'd kept the
platform shoes, since I hear they're now back in fashion! (Why? WHY?)

BTW, does anyone remember "Italian Balm"?
It's another smoothing, healing skin lotion,
sort of like what is now (and back then, too)
"Corn Huskers Lotion" - which is quite good for chapped skin, incidentally!

I don't personally remember it, of course, but Campana's Italian Balm does
bring to mind one of Tom Snyder's "Tomorrow Show" round-table discussions
with a batch of OTR personalities, broadcast in about 1974. Les Tremayne,
one of the participants, remembered voicing commercials for the product,
after which he said that some listeners wrote in demanding to know why
anyone would be selling Italian munitions over the air. Seems that some
people heard "balm" as "bomb" and took it from there.

True or not, it makes for a great story.

BTW, "Corn Husker's Lotion" is *great* stuff for chapped skin. So is Bag
Balm, though I hear that carrying bombs in bags is illegal in airports.
(rimshot)

Harlan

Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
[removed]

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:41:55 -0400
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Robert Hall

In a message dated 8/29/01 1:54:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:

 When the values go up, up, [removed]
 And the prices go down, down, [removed]
 Robert Hall's the [removed]

As I recall, the complete jingle was:

"When the values go up, up, up,
And the prices go down, down, down,
Robert Hall this season
Will show you the reason:
Low overhead.  Low overhead."

Robert Hall, with clothes hanging on its "plain pipe racks," was pretty big
in the New York area back in the Forties.

Spence

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:41:01 -0400
From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bea Benadaret Twombley

Jay Ranellucci posted,
Ivan mentioned that Bea Benaderet at one time was married to Jim Bannon.
Once when I was doing some work with sound effects man Gene Twombley,
Jack Benny's sfx man, someone said did you know Gene's wife is Bea
Benaderet?  I wonder was this before or after Jim Bannon?

It was after, and the marriage's end was a romantic tragedy
to rival any I've heard about.
Bea Benadaret Twombley passed away from lung cancer on
October 13, 1968.
Her widower, Eugene Twombley, died of a massive heart attack
on October 17, 1968, the day after his wife's funeral.

John Henley
jhenley@[removed]
ph  (512) 495-4112
fax (512) 495-4296

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:00:21 -0400
From: "tc" <radioskeleton@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Coke

I just read a complete history on Coca Cola, some 800 pages, well
documented, including the secret formula. Coke did have coke in it until the
early 1900's when they removed it under pressure from the govt and the
religious right.
    The amount of coke was miniscule.  To actually get high on coke you
would have to drink about 25-30 bottles at one time.  The small amount of
coke did however help with headaches and such.
    I learned as a former police investigator that the coca leaves which
contain cocaine are still used in coke, but are thoroughly stripped of the
coke (as in cocaine-trying to be funny here) before they are shipped to the
US.
    The interesting thing about the NEW COKE fiasco in the 80's was that
coca cola would have been able to quit buying the coca leaves for the
original forumla which was a major reason they tried to switch to the new
[removed] more relevant reason is that Pepsi was at the time kicking
their tail.  I don't if they are now or not.
Tracy

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:27:14 -0400
From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Coca-Cola & Cocaine

"A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];, regarding the possibility that
Coca-Cola once contained cocaine, asks:

I've heard this before, and I've wondered whether this is true or just
apocryphal.  Can one of our history experts tell us whether this really is
so?  And, if so, the details?

Check out:

[removed]

I don't believe everything I read on the Internet, of course, but this
jibes with other information I've read in the past.

Harlan

Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
[removed]

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:00:36 -0400
From: "schickedanz" <schickedanz@[removed];
To: "Old-Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Age

Hi, all.

I'm a young 55.

Peace,
Norm Schickedanz
Elmhurst, IL

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:00:55 -0400
From: "Ed Kindred" <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "On the Trail" in the loop

The story I heard back in my High school days (unconfirmed by any source)
that Ferde Grofe's inspiration for "On the Trail" came from the pounding of
a pile driver outside his hotel room in Chicago. This master of suite
writing also wrote a "Death Valley Suite". these two western suites were
coupled on a Capitol LP Recording a lifetime er a about fifty years ago.
Ed Kindred who has been on the trail on foot.

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:01:10 -0400
From: Jer51473@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Arthur Treacher

  I seem to remember him as a regular for a time on the Jack Benny program. I
own many tapes of the program, but none have him in them. Wasnt he Bennys
butler or something or am i thinking of another show? Didnt Benny refer to
him as "Treacher"? If so when were these shows aired? Anybody?

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:12:13 -0400
From: Roger Lorette <webmaster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Demographics Survey & "Words At War"

Two things to take care of in this note.

First off for those actually taking note of the age demographics I just
turned 49 last week and went kicking and screaming at that.  Got into OTR
about 3 years ago when I discovered the shows still existed while looking for
music MP3s.  My heart literally jumped for joy when I stumbled upon a
quantity of Jack Benny shows as well as Burns And Allen shows.  Both shows
(the TV versions) I watched and thoroughly enjoyed as a child in the late
50's and early 60's.  Since that discovery I've managed to build my
collection up to over 8,000 various shows and it continues to grow.

Now, for Howard who was requesting an episode of "Words At War" from Feb 8,
1944 called "George Washington Carver"...for the next couple of days you can
download that episode at [removed] .  I place one show for download at
that site changing it every 2 or 3 days.

For listening to OTR online you might also like to check out my streaming
website at [removed] .

Thanks for your time.

Roger Lorette
webmaster@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:12:25 -0400
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  On the Trail of Grofe

A good place to mention two recordings of Ferde Grofe (1892-1972):

Jon Hendricks added lyrics to Grofe’s "On the Trail," and this
"vocalese" version can be heard on Hendricks' now out-of-print LP, TELL
ME THE TRUTH [Arista], recorded in 1975.

Formed in 1992, the Beau Hunks are a group of Dutch music revivalists
involved in meticulous research and reconstruction of lost or
near-forgotten music by early saxophone bands and composers such as
Raymond Scott, LeRoy Shield (Little Rascals, Laurel & Hardy), Ferde
Grofe and others.

CD review of the Shield L&H recording:
[removed]

On THE MODERN AMERICAN MUSIC OF FERDE GROFE [Basta, 1998] the 35-piece
Beau Hunks orchestra recreates "symphonic jazz" pieces Grofe composed
for Paul Whiteman between 1924 and 1931. It includes Grofe's beautiful
tone poem, "Broadway at Night," written in the months following the
success of "Rhapsody in Blue." The fact that Whiteman chose not to make
a commercial recording of the evocative Gershwin-like "Broadway at
Night" remains a genuine mystery.

Samples>The Beau Hunks> THE MODERN AMERICAN MUSIC OF FERDE GROFE:
[removed]
tml/ArtistID=BEAU+HUNKS/ITEMID=623722

"On the Trail" was Grofe's signature song. Even so, the "Grand Canyon
Suite" (with the exception of "Cloudburst") is not included on the Beau
Hunks CD because, as Gert-Jan Blom phrases it, "our attempts at
capturing its spirit did not result in a satisfactory recording." The
extensive notes give these (incomplete) credits for Grofe's own band on
radio: THE FRED ALLEN SHOW (1934), THE BURNS AND ALLEN SHOW (1935-36)
and SATURDAY NIGHT PARTY (1936-37).

As I recall, when John Roventini was hired by the ad agency for Philip
Morris, he was brought together with Grofe's music on a Philip
Morris-sponsored radio program titled THE FERDE GROFE SHOW. Who else was
heard on this show, and how long did it run?

Hear Johnny call for Philip Morris: [removed]

A Ferde Grofe postage stamp was issued in 1997 as part of the "Legends
of American Music" stamp series.

Bhob @ PRE-FUSE @ [removed]

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:12:49 -0400
From: ChibiBarako <cvc@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Obsolete products: Pepsin and Blackjack gum

Jay and Bob were discussing gum ...

Sometime in the 1990's I saw both Pepsin gum and Blackjack gum briefly
at a K-Mart in northern Illinois. (I think they'd been bought out by
another company by then.)  I think the last time I saw Teaberry gum was
in the late 1980's ... and there was another one in that bunch ...

And a new-time memory for us youngsters ... does anybody remember
(fondly or not *grin*) ice-cream flavored gum in the early 1970's?

Cynthia

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:13:23 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Abbott and Costello convention

As usual, I'm getting around to answering my e-mail after being off line for
a few days.  Recent talk of Abbott and Costello just reminded me.  For
anyone who lives near the Pittsburgh area (or the east coast for that
matter) who would like to personally meet Vickie Abbott and Paddie Costello,
the daughters of Bud and Lou, they will be attending the Monster Bash
convention on June 21, 22 and 23, 2002.  I have never seen their name as
"guests" at any film convention in years and I suspect they don't go to many
here on the East Coast.  The Monster Bash is VERY family oriented, and Ron
Adams, who runs the Bash, highly encourages young children to attend.  I
know a good many of the readers of this newsletter are probably within a few
hours driving distance of Pittsburgh (Butler, PA to be exact), so if your
calendars are free, take a drive and get an autograph or ask the questions
you've been meaning to ask them.  Info on the Bash is at
[removed]

Martin

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:13:43 -0400
From: Eric Hardy <ericandsusie@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  age of otr fans

Hi there,
I'm an otr fan 33 years old. I must say I love most things from the 30's
and the 40's. Drama, comedy, westerns and music. The best westerns for
me were from the fifties though.
Oh, I forgot mysteries and detective shows. Its all good.

Eric Hardy

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:13:53 -0400
From: ChibiBarako <cvc@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Slogans

And what was "it's all vegetable, it's digestible"?

Don't know about the Golden Age, but when I started watching daytime TV
in the late 1970's and early 1980's the slogan was "it's digestible,
it's all vegetable" and the product was Crisco.

Cynthia

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