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Date: 7/5/2002 8:55 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 252
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Japanese Submarine Attack on Goleta   [ George Guffey <grguffey@[removed]; ]
  Tom Miller - where are you?           [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  OTR Items of Interest                 [ "Thomas Barnett" <barnettl@[removed] ]
  Larry J, Noble Morning Man            [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Death Valley Days                     [ Jim Kitchen <jkitchen@[removed]; ]
  Favourite OTR Shows                   [ Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@telu ]
  Drinks In the House                   [ Tsunami1000@[removed] ]
  More Re: Buried Alive                 [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  NEW PEPSI JINGLE                      [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  KEEPS ON RUNNING & RUNNING &.....     [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  Re:REPS Convention                    [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:14:20 -0400
From: George Guffey <grguffey@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Japanese Submarine Attack on Goleta and WW2
 Radio Silence

Two or three "Digest" postings recently referred to
the Japanese submarine attack on the oil fields of
Goleta, California, early in 1942. Other recent
postings have dealt with the nature and extent of WW2
radio broadcast restrictions.

Goleta is adjacent to Santa Barbara; and on February
24, 1942, the front page of the SANTA BARBARA
NEWS-PRESS contained six articles with information
about the attack on the previous evening. Readers of
the "Digest" might find some of the information
contained in these articles both relevant and
interesting.

In the longest article ("Submarine Shells Ellwood Oil
Field: First Attack of War on Continental U. S."), the
NEWS-PRESS reported that "the enemy submarine appeared
off Ellwood field, about a mile from shore, at 7:05
[removed] With dreadful regularity it began shelling. . . .
With diabolical cunning and boldness the enemy craft
struck as the whole nation was listening to [President
Roosevelt's] report to the nation on the war. For 20
minutes or half an hour the shelling continued. Shot
after shot whined and whistled over the oil field, at
least one going across Highway 101 and dropping on
ranchland toward the mountains. The explosions were
shattering in their force. Buildings rocked as during
an earthquake. Geysers of earth shot heavenward. The
manager of one refinery, asked by police how much
damage was being done, replied: 'I don't know. I'm too
busy dodging shells.'" The writer of this article also
added that, as sirens wailed, radio stations from
Santa Barbara to the Mexican border had been silenced.

The other NEWS-PRESS articles on the incident
generally emphasized the stoicism and heroism of the
Santa Barbara populace in the face of what one called
an "Axis brand of hell." One such article ("Citizenry
Responds to Axis Sub Without Trace of Hysteria")
contained some interesting radio broadcast details:

"Anxious but calm, residents from Santa Maria to
Ventura waited in blacked out homes, their radios
silenced. This was the test and the civilians met it
with complete cool calm. In four minutes every light
In Santa Barbara was off. There was excitement in
Goleta but no hysteria. No one was frightened or
panicky. Police reported that in Santa Barbara
hundreds of persons walked to East beach to get a
better view of the flares which gave an ironical
celebration to the George Washington's birthday
holiday. . . . Downtown Santa Barbara presented just
about the same scene as it does in the wee small hours
Of any morning--calm as the night itself, except that
in the gloom could be discerned men of the home guard.
A few people were walking about their business. Many
cars were pulled to the curb, their occupants
listening to eastern radio stations or just sitting
quietly."

A third article ("Military Takes Charge at Site")
described the situation at the local airport, which
was very close to the oil fields under attack:

"At the Goleta airport where a group of workmen,
newspapers reporters, and photographers and passing
motorists were marooned during the blackout,
everything was under the stern hand of the military.
Army guards stopped all highway traffic and foot
movement. . . . The airport, save for one red beacon
light, was as black as a coal pit. This light,
installed only Monday, remained lighted for several
hours after the blackout, engineers being unable to
find the line or switch that controlled it. It was
finally shot out. There was no hysteria or undue
excitement among those who were huddled in the
darkened room within shelling distance of where the
submarine first made its attack. There were many
epithets hurled at the Japanese in the inky blackness
and expressions of indignation at the fiendish
audacity of the enemy to shell California's coast just
at the moment when President Roosevelt was telling the
American people and the world that this country
intended to fight the war away from these shores."

Over the years that followed, many people speculated
on the motivations of the commander of the submarine.
After all, his target, when compared to more
strategically important ones up and down the Coast,
seemed a poor choice. A fanciful but emotionally
satisfying story purporting to account for the attack
on the Goleta oil fields eventually evolved and gained
a degree of acceptance by many Californians. According
to this account, Captain Kozo Nishino, commander of
the submarine, had at an earlier period of his life,
when acting as the captain of a Japanese oil tanker,
gone ashore at Goleta and, while there, fallen into a
cactus patch. Infuriated by the laughter of nearby oil
workers, he vowed to one day get even. Needless to
say, subsequent scholarship has not been able to
verify any of the details of this account.

Anyone reminded of the movie "1941"?

George

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:14:38 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tom Miller - where are you?

I have an old mailing address for

Tom C. Miller
Superior, Wisconsin

and I'm wondering if he has an e-mail address.  I found a magazine article
he is probably interested in (if he's still into this aspect of OTR).  I
would like to send it.

Are you out there Tom?  Does anyone have an e-mail address for him?

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:14:52 -0400
From: "Thomas Barnett" <barnettl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Items of Interest

I have three (3) OTR related items I am making available to anyone on the
list who would care for them, give them a decent home. They are available for
just $[removed] for S/H. The items are:

1.  Much Ado About Me  by Fred Allen
    Mint shape, missing dust jacket, 1956

2.  MYSTERY Collection from Radio Spirits
    30 Hours - 20 Tapes MINT condition

3.  CBS' Greatest Programs by Radio Spirits
    30 Hours - 20 Tapes + Booklet

Email me with the item(s) you want - first email I receive will reserve the
tiem. These are from my OTR collection and I want to see them go to real OTR
fans!

Tom Barnett
Stone Nights Pockets

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:15:31 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Larry J, Noble Morning Man

From: Larry Josephson <larry@[removed];
I have been Bob & Ray's producer for 21 years and counting.

Hey Larry, since you are on here, I don't want you to get away without
the group knowing that you, too, are a great radio wit.  In an era where
we now have to suffer thru cruddy morning programs like "Bob and Tom"
and Howard Stern, it is nice to think back to when New Yorkers could
wake up to WBAI and hear you not only order your bagel breakfast on the
phone every morning but also eat it on the air and make it
entertaining!  And then there was the morning (did it happen only once?)
when countless 'BAIers were late for work or school because the station
didn't sign on until about 8:45 becuase you had gotten trapped in that
rickety old elevator at 30 East 39th Street and it took that long for
someone to discover and rescue you.  Boy were you pissed off--because
you had really come in extra early that morning!  Now THAT was radio!!!
It was real life.  Sorta like "Breakfast With Dorothy and Dick" without
the false good humor and charm.  We loved it!  Now if I could just dig
out some tapes of it . . .

I hope I'll be home in time to hear you on YesterdayUSA with Bill Bragg
on the evening of Sunday July 14th.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:15:51 -0400
From: Jim Kitchen <jkitchen@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Death Valley Days

While browsing John Dunning's, "The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio", I
came across Death Valley Days.  Surprisingly, Death Valley Days was on
radio for 21 years, beginning in 1930 on NBC Red, and ending in 1951 on
ABC.  I remember listening to the Old Ranger spinning another tale from
the old west, beginning with Dresser Dahlstead's simple announcement:
"As the early-morning bugle-call of covered wagon trains fades away
among the echoes, another true Death Valley Days story is presented for
your entertainment by the Pacific Coast Borax [removed]"

"The Burro That Had No Name" and "Sam Bass" are the only Death Valley
Days stories I have.   The Death Valley Days logs I've looked at are all
pretty sketchy.   I wonder why there are only a few episodes
circulating.

Jim Kitchen

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:22:54 -0400
From: Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Favourite OTR Shows

Greetings All!

In perusing past issues of the digest, I have run across several mentions
by individuals of their favourite OTR Shows. Conspicuously absent from such
postings are favourites from people who actually worked in radio during
its 'Golden Years'

But what about the actual Media Members from the radio Days [removed]
Harry Bartell, Hal Stone, Jim Murtaugh, Lois Culver. and our illustrious
Moderator, Charlie Summers. Also I believe Owens Pomeroy was involved in
some aspects of production but he has been conspicuous by his absence from
the recent issues of the digest.

What were your favourite shows to which you listened  (When you had time)?
I for one would be interested in what such people would consider the
'Creme-De-La-Creme' of what is now OTR.

My thanks to all the posters who have given me many hours of reading
pleasure and so much knowledge that my brain cells are becoming saturated.

===> ELMER

[ADMINISTRIVIA: As much of an honor as it is to be listed in that illustrious
group of radio professionals, I'm afraid I don't belong. I wasn't born until
the Thursday episode of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar's adventure, "The Clinton
Matter" (actually, a few hours after it aired, to be exact) and I never
worked in radio. I just look, sound, and act older than those others listed.
I perfected being a curmudgeon quite early in life.  --cfs3]

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 00:23:24 -0400
From: Tsunami1000@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Drinks In the House
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Speaking of long-vanished soft drinks, does anyone remember Truade?   It came
in Orange and Grape flavors, and it bragged that it was "non-cabornated."
Ice cold, it was delicious and thirst quenching!  Many years have passed
since this wonderful brand vanished.   I am not sure if it was a local brand
to North Carolina or not, or perhaps just a Southern brand, but the only
thing which comes close touching it is Snapples Grape, and still it isn't
quite the same.
     In the same vein, does anyone recall Teem, put out by Pepsi Cola?  I was
a kid in the very early 60's, and I can recall times in the hot, hot summer
in Selma, North Carolina, crossing the railroad track and scraping up 12
cents for an ice-cold Teem.   I never knew why Pepsi discontinued this brand,
but it was a lot like Sprite.
     Hope these musings go hand in hand with the old days!   James Faulkner,
Tucson

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:49:02 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  More Re: Buried Alive
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John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; wrote:

We have to take such family stories with a grain of salt, of course, but this
does suggest that the "buried alive" stories on Suspense and Alfred Hitchcock
were not without some basis.

I read an article a couple of years ago in a respected magazine
(Smithsonian? National Geographic?) that described some of the pre-burial
procedures and elaborate coffins that people in the late 1800's arranged
for, in order that they would not be buried when they were in fact still alive.
Vendors sold coffins that had air pipes that led to the surface; bell-pulls
in the coffin that activated bells mounted above the grave; etc.
I read another article that discussed a disease that leaves its victims in
a "moribund" state, that may have given rise to the belief in "vampires"
who climb out of their grave/tombs to live again after their "deaths".
Anyway, it is clear that before the use of modern mortuary practices it was
possible to bury a "corpse" who was not really [removed]
and there have been enough recent *documented* cases of people "waking up"
on a morgue slab that '"buried alive" stories on Suspense and Alfred
Hitchcock were not without some basis."'

Herb Harrison

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:49:07 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

  From Those Were The Days --

1943 - The Adventures of Nero Wolfe debuted on the NBC Blue network.
Nero Wolfe was "the detective genius who rates the knife and fork the
greatest tools ever invented by man." The 'gargantuan gourmet' continued
on the air until 1951.

1948 - My Favorite Husband, with Lucille Ball, became the gifted
redhead's first regular radio program on CBS. Richard Denning,
co-starred with Lucy as "two people who live together and like it."

1951 - The Silver Eagle debuted on ABC radio as a late entry into
radio's action-adventure lineup. Jim Ameche starred as Jim West. The
program continued for four years and marked the last of radio's long
list of adventure shows.

1951 - Dr. William Shockley announced that he had invented a working and
efficient junction transistor at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in
Murray Hill, NJ.

  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:49:17 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  NEW PEPSI JINGLE

Pepsi-Cola hits the spot
Buy it by the case, a lot
Fill your bathtub to the brim
Combine your drinking with a swim

      [removed]
      A DATE WITH SINATRA

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:49:40 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  KEEPS ON RUNNING & RUNNING &.....

This would force NBC to cut the show off at the appropriate time
regardless of whether or not the program was completed.

The NBC chimes were electronically programmed to ring, and automatically
cut off anything that might still be broadcasting.

      [removed]
      A DATE WITH SINATRA

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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:50:40 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re:REPS Convention

As a "First-Timer" to the REPS Convention in Seattle, I wasn't quite sure
how that club organized all the events. Having been invited to SPERDVAC
(LA), and FOTR (NY/NJ) a number of times, (and recently to the Cincy
Convention), I was aware of the general routine and format that all OTR
conventions use, but was very pleasantly surprised with the physical set up
at REPS.

Unlike all the other Conventions, REPS is not held in a hotel, but in a
number of adjoining large and medium size rooms in a separate wing of the
Seattle Center. The minor inconvenience of using a shuttle between the hotel
and conference center was dramatically offset by the impressive facilities
where the events were held. (I particularly liked the "green room" where the
performers could get off for some quiet time, a bite to eat, mark their
scripts and study their lines). To use a few key words to describe the
entire set up, it would be "spacious, comfortable, clean, WELL ORGANIZED and
very "Professional").

As for the REPS members who organized things and worked so hard to make it a
success, I have nothing but praise. Mike Sprague, Joy, Marilyn, Janet and
all the rest did themselves proud.

I had a blast. They sure kept me busy, appearing in three recreations,
directing a fourth, with a panel discussion thrown in the mix.

I met and worked with some incredibly talented local performers, (among them
Jim French and Larry Albert) and the audio engineering staff was excellent.
It was great fun seeing some of my actor buddies from the LA area as well.
(Gil Stratton, Art Gilmore, Dick Beals, and many more)

If you are into OTR recreations of some of your favorite programs, and like
meeting and socializing with some of the talented performers or that era (as
well as the new breed), The REPS Convention is a do-not-miss event.

People came from as far away as Chicago. (Maybe even further for all I
know). When REPS rolls around next year, If your West of the Mississippi,
put it on your calendar, make reservations, and get your fill of some really
well done OTR activities.

On a closing note, I really enjoyed finally getting to meet some fellow
"Digesters" and a few of Lois's OTR Chat Room participants. It's fun to be
able to put "a face to their fiction". Or better [removed]"A puss to a Poster".

The other "Harlan" is a neat guy and Stewart Wright was great company.

And [removed]"Fibber" went out of his way to be helpful. And Jennifer was well
behaved and didn't sass me at all this trip. (She must be maturing? :) But
we all should be proud of both Jennifer and that other college age young
pup, Ryan. Ryan got straight A's in his last semester, and Jennifer made the
Deans List. (It seems there is hope for the future of the hobby) :)

Again, Dorothy and I wish to thank everyone who made our participation at
the REPS convention so enjoyable.

Next stop, The FOTR Convention back East the end of October. See you there.

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead

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