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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 301
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  FOTR                                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  10-22 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Credit where due                      [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  re: Missing ILAM episodes             [ Chargous@[removed] ]
  Re: Missing ILAM Episodes             [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
  I Love A Mystery                      [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Inflation                             [ Rentingnow@[removed] ]
  10-23 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:21:25 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  FOTR

The 32nd Friends of Old-Time Radio Convention was great this year, as
always.  Friends I have not seen in more than a year such as Dan Riedstra
and Buck Biggers I got to spend a brief time chatting with.  The panel with
Bill Dana ("Hello, my name is Jose Jimenez . . .") was great and Dana looks
as if he hasn't aged a bit.  Amazing.

Ken Stockinger's presentation with Gil Stratton Jr. was great, and Ken
helped keep it running smoothly from beginning to end.  Susan and David
Siegel's presentation about the writing and publishing aspects of OTR books
was top-notch and explained every aspect OTR fans needed to know.  I didn't
get to stay for the entire presentation, but almost everything I could ever
learn and think of was brought up in the first twenty minutes.  It was great
to chat with Rosemary Rise and Michael Gwynne again.  Charming people and I
got to surprise Rosemary by telling her that I saw her in a brief scene in a
TV production of STUDIO ONE back during the "live" broadcasting era of
television.  She said she did not recall doing an episode but I told her she
did and I'll be mailing that to her this week.

Art Pierce's LUX PRESENTS HOLLYWOOD book that was published by McFarland in
1995 is the one-stop source for everything regarding the radio and TV
series.  It's one of those books that is so detailed, it'll never be
surpassed.  After all these years, the only McFarland book I kept
overlooking and been meaning to purchase was in front of me and I bought it
for a bargain.  Thank you Derek!

I regret missing the X MINUS ONE panel with Jim Widner and George Lefferts,
but I know I'll be picking up a DVD of that presentation in Williamsburg in
March at the Western Film Festival.

I caught a few minutes of "Reunion," a recreation of a lost episode of
LIGHTS OUT by the Gotham Radio Players but I seem to recall having heard a
performance of a recreation by the same troupe years before, so I knew how
the story ended and didn't stay for all of it, but can someone correct me if
I am wrong?  I didn't know if I was suffering from psychic deja vu or if I
am correct about them doing this same script again.

My only regret is not being able to stay for the Saturday night dinner
banquet.  As usual, I have Grace Fellowship Sunday morning and friends in
Pittsburgh whom I brought to FOTR and needed to get them back to my house so
they could get home.  The performances for Saturday night are the highlights
of the weekend.

Small request: I know I'm making this public instead of to the FOTR
committee personally but this request is the same for other conventions . .
. rather than have recreations of OTR shows I've heard before, why not
"lost" radio shows like the Gotham Players do?  Recreations such as having
Dick Beals in "My Client Curley" are worthwhile, but I had no interest this
year in watching a recreation of the X-MINUS ONE episode "Junkyard" since I
saw a recreation of that same episode four weeks ago at another convention.
(I saw a recreation of the "Sam Crow" episode of HAVE GUN-WILL TRAVEL
episode three times in the same year somewhat recent - at the Memphis Film
Festival's dinner banquet, Cincinnati's dinner banquet, and FOTR and
honestly, listening to the same story I heard off CD or audio cassette a
year or two before means four times a year is overkill.)

I have plenty of scripts for "lost" OTR shows (Inner Sanctum, Suspense,
Lights Out, Sam Spade, etc.) and I'd be more than glad to mail complimentary
any scripts someone plans to do at a convention (or if it's a lot of
scripts, just charge for the copy fees that Staples charges).  I sent comps
of SAM SPADE to John Harrison in Oley, PA for a college or high school
troupe about a year or two ago, and the offer holds for anyone else.  Ben
Ohmart has also published radio scripts in book form for "lost" episodes
such as BABY SNOOKS . . . just a suggestion.  Having listened to the same
HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL recreation four times in the same year fairly recently
I'd be the first to pay for a dinner banquet ticket if someone was doing a
"lost" episode.

Here's to another successful FOTR next year!
Martin

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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:21:31 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-22 births/deaths

October 22nd births

10-22-1876 - Cecilia Loftus - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 7-12-1943
actor: Sarah Wright "Roses and Drums"
10-22-1884 - George Washington Hill - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-13-1946
President of American Tobacco Company, sponsor of many radio programs
10-22-1885 - Giovanni Martinelli - Montagnana, Italy - d. 2-2-1969
operatic tenor: "Metropolitan Opera"; "Magic Key"; "Shell Show"
10-22-1891 - Parker Fennelly - Northeast Harbor, ME - d. 1-22-1988
actor: Titus Moody, "Fred Allen Show"; Dan Tucker, "Lawyer Dan Tucker"
10-22-1893 - Clarence Menser - d. 10-xx-1975
director: "Tom Mix"; "Vic and Sade"
10-22-1895 - Clair Loring Farrand - d. 1-7-1981
inventor of the cone radio loudspeaker
10-22-1905 - Constance Bennett - NYC - d. 7-24-1965
interviewer, panelist: "Constance Bennett Calls on You"; "Leave It to
the Girls"
10-22-1905 - Edward Byron - Newport, KY - d. 11-21-1964
writer, producer: "Moon River"; "Mr. District Attorney"
10-22-1906 - Sidney Kingsley - NYC - d. 3-20-1995
writer: "Pulitzer Prize Plays"
10-22-1907 - Roger DeKoven - Chicago, IL - d. 1-28-1988
actor: Professor Allen, "Against the Storm"
10-22-1908 - Charles A. Nobles - Holyoke, MA - d. 6-xx-1977
announcer: "Wake Up America"
10-22-1913 - Jay Owen - d. 6-27-2005
worked in radio in Washington [removed] and New York City
10-22-1915 - Laurette Fillbrandt - Zanesville, OH
actor: "Girl Alone"; "Affairs of Anthone"; "One Man's Family"
10-22-1916 - Sidney Miller - Shenandoah, PA - d. 1-10-2004
actor-director-songwriter: "Eddie Cantor Show"; "Jeff Regan, Private
Investigator"
10-22-1917 - Joan Fontaine - Tokyo, Japan
actor: "Cresta Blanca Hollywood Players"
10-22-1920 - Mitzi Green - The Bronx, NY - d. 5-24-1969
actor: Girl "Passport to Romance"
10-22-1938 - Sir Derek Jacoby - Leytonstone, London, England
actor:  Renaissance Theatre Company in association with BBC Radio Drama
10-22-1939 - Jim Cox - Pineville, KY
author: "Radio Crime Fighters"; "Great Radio Soap Operas"
10-22-1939 - Tony Roberts - NYC
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

October 22nd deaths

01-02-1925 - Richard Jessup - d. 10-22-1982
writer: "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet"
01-23-1884 - George McManus - St. Louis, MO - d. 10-22-1954
"Bringing Up Father" based on his comic strip
02-17-1908 - Walter "Red" Barber - Columbus, MS - d. 10-22-1992
sportscaster: (The Old Redhead) "Schaefer Star Revue"
04-07-1905 - Murray Bolen - Minnesota - d. 10-22-1995
producer, director: "Father Knows Best"; "Mayor of the Town";
"Railroad Hour"
04-11-1921 - Dorothy Shay - Jacksonville, FL - d. 10-22-1978
singer: (Park Avenue Hillbilly) "The Spike Jones Show"
04-29-1903 - Richard Leibert - Bethlehem, PA - d. 10-22-1976
organist: "Dick Leibert's Musical Revue"; "Organ Rhapsody"
05-22-1916 - Rupert Davies - Liverpool, England - d. 10-22-1976
actor: "Afternoon Theatre"
06-13-1916 - Mary Wickes - St. Louis, MO - d. 10-22-1995
actor: Louise "Meet Corliss Archer"; Irma Barker "Lorenzo Jones"
06-22-1901 - Charlie Agnew - Illinois - d. 10-22-1978
bandleader: "Yeast Foam Program"; "Armandes Face Cream Program"
06-27-1862 - May Irwin - Whitby, Canada - d. 10-22-1938
actor: "The Eveready Hour"
07-05-1899 - Tim Ryan - Bayonne, NJ - d. 10-22-1956
actor: "Tim and Irene Show"
08-02-1899 - Earle Larimore - Portland, OR - d. 10-22-1947
actor: "Alias Jimmy Valentine"; "Life Can Be Beautiful"
10-26-1918 - Ivor Francis - Toronto, Canada - d. 10-22-1986
actor: "Secret Missions"; "The Chase"
10-30-1910 - Francia White - Greenville, TX - d. 10-22-1984
singer: "Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"; "Fred Astaire Show";
"Telephone Hour"
11-22-1904 - Roland Winters - Boston, MA - d. 10-22-1989
actor: Russell Bartlett "My Best Girls"; "Milton Berle Show";
"Highways in Melody"
11-22-1919 - Steve Alex - d. 10-22-1998
newscaster: KSIL Silver City, New Mexico
11-25-1905 - Will Osborne - Toronto, Canada - d. 10-22-1981
bandleader, singer: "Abbott and Costello"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:07:26 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Credit where due

From: Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed];
Subject:   "hall of fame award"?
There already is one: the Allen Rockford Award, given  for about 25 years at 
the Friends of OTR  [removed];<

[ADMINISTRIVIA: Your obedient servant is proud  and humbled to be a past 
recipient of this award.  --cfs3]

And earned with much sweat-equity:
 
Folks who haven't made it to Conventions in the East may not know that, as  
well as his whip cracking hereabouts, Charlie is many things at FOTR, including 
 Photographer and sometime Moderator.
 
(I hear tell that he has directed recreations at MANC, as [removed])
 
A "huzzah" from this corner, from-
-Craig W.

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:00:04 -0400
From: Chargous@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Missing ILAM episodes

In response to the question, I don't know about the terms of making
recordings from the NBC/CBS run, but with the Mutual run, it was
transcribed and Morse was SUPPOSED to get a copy of each
broadcast.  Somehow, they stopped sending copies regularly after 1949, and
apparently Morse never followed it up.  To my knowledge, Jim Harmon
released every ILAM that Morse had.  The poorer sounding ones you're
referring to, like some of the interior eps of Murder in Turquoise Pass,
came from other various sources.

Travis

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:53:48 -0400
From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  Missing ILAM Episodes

On 10/21/2007 "belanger" wrote:
And even if, for some reason, all of the west coast shows
were not in his possession, there was the entire second opportunity with
the east coast run! So why are they missing?

I have a copy of a Sherlock Holmes audio tape with a modern comment
that the show was broadcast for the east coast. Then everyone went to
dinner and returned to perform the west coast program. So not all
programs were recorded for rebroadcasting.

As far as an actor having recordings, there were commercial recording
studios that could be hired to make them on contract as off-air
recordings. I believe getting personal copies from a broadcast studio
was probably rare.

Don

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:18:38 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  I Love A Mystery

Someone asked:
I've enjoyed OTR for decades, but there is still some of it's history
I'm not up on. Here's what I don't understand about the poorly recorded or
missing I Love A Mystery shows: Why are they missing in the first place?

The answer to that isn't simple.  And frankly, it's a similar answer for
many other old-time radio shows.  For I LOVE A MYSTERY, it was economics.
It costs money to have a transcription of a radio broadcast made.  Cost for
labor, supplies, storage, etc.  When radio programs were produced,
sometimes, depending on the show, the sponsor paid for the transcription.
Other times the producer of the series paid for it.  Unless it was in the
contracts, transcribing a show was optional depending on the relations
between the producer, director and sponsor.

The very first season (1939-40) of I LOVE A MYSTERY was transcribed because
five radio stations in Texas chose to broadcast the episodes at a different
time slot.  So when the West Coast the episodes, sections of Texas was
broadcasting those same episodes a week later courtesy of transcriptions.
(Copies of the receipts for those transcriptions were reprinted in my book,
THE I LOVE A MYSTERY COMPANION, in the hopes that someone in Texas might see
that and choose to pursue the transcriptions of they still exist.)

For the NY run (1949-1952), Morse did have it in the contract with the
Mutual network to have the station record each and every episode.  Morse was
aware that barely a recording was made (except for rare occassions such as
the Texas issue stated above) during the Hollywood run and the contract
stated that Mutual would record the episodes at their expense.  Sadly, Morse
admitted decades later that he never bothered to follow up with Mutual, who
had a reputation for not doing things under contract when it came to dollar
signs.  That's why the first few serials from the Mutual NY run exist and
very little from the Hollywood run.

Martin Grams Jr.

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:42:30 -0400
From: Rentingnow@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Inflation
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In a message dated 10/21/2007 10:22:24 [removed] Eastern Daylight Time,  [removed]
[removed]@[removed] writes:

FOTR,  and what was the value of money in
the radio age?

I remember that at one time in the 40's or 50's - probably 50 because I
can't fathom remembering inflation data when I was less than 10 years old -
the
comparison of what someone could by with a given amount was compare with what
could be purchases about the year 1910.  I don't know when that criteria
stopped but at the time it struck me as a long period in the past to
comparing
prices to gage inflation.

Minimum wage was $.65.  My first job, for a Valus TV in Denver in 1960  was
$1.  Now the minimum wage is only $[removed] or so.  Humm.

Larry Moore

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:19:37 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-23 births/deaths

October 23rd births

10-23-1871 - Rev. Dr. Karl Reiland - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-12-1964
clergyman: 15-Minute NEWS commentary program for NBC
10-23-1884 - Cesar Saerchinger - Aix-la-Chapelle, France - d. 10-10-1971
news correspondent: "Story Behind the Headlines"; "America's Town
Meeting of the Air"
10-23-1887 - Oliver M. Saylor - Huntington, IN - d. 10-19-1958
reviewer: WGBS New York City
10-23-1896 - Nathan Abas - d. 6-1-1980
orchestra director, violinist: "Northern California Symphony Orchestra"
10-23-1901 - Arthur Jacobson - NYC - d. 10-6-1993
actor: Kirk Harding "Woman in White"; Anthony J. Marleybone "Affairs
of Anthony"
10-23-1904 - Ford Bond - Louisville, KY - d. 8-15-1962
announcer: "Cities Service Concert"; "Manhattan Merry-Go-Round";
Highways in Melody"
10-23-1904 - Margaret Speaks - Columbus, OH - d. 7-16-1977
singer: "Voice of Firestone"
10-23-1904 - Oliver Barbour - d. 4-11-1968
producer, director: "Life Can Be Beautiful"; "Parker Family"; "When a
Girl Marries"
10-23-1906 - Lucy Monroe - NYC - d. 10-13-1987
singer: (The Star-Spangled Soprano) "Hammerstein's Music Hall";
"Manhattan Merry-Go-Round"
10-23-1911 - Martha Rountree - Gainesville, FL - d. 8-23-1999
co-founder, moderator: "Meet the Press"
10-23-1912 - Floyd Mack - Ava, OH - d. 1-3-1983
commentator: "Floyd Mack and the News"; "Bell Telephone Hour"
10-23-1918 - Augusta Dabney - Berkeley, CA
actor: "Theatre Five"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
10-23-1918 - James Daly - Wisconsin Rapids, WI - d. 7-3-1978
actor: "Monitor"
10-23-1922 - Coleen Gray - Staplehurst, NE
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-23-1922 - Ewell Blackwell - Fresno, CA - d. 10-29-1996
baseball pitcher: "Babe Didrickson Zaharius Sports Show"
10-23-1923 - Frank Sutton - Clarksville, TN - d. 6-28-1974
actor: "Couple Next Door"
10-23-1925 - Johnny Carson - Corning, IA - d. 1-23-2005
announcer, disc jockey: "Johnny Carson Show"
10-23-1931 - Diana Dors - Swindon, Wiltshire, England - d. 5-4-1984
actor: "Earplay"
10-23-1940 - Tom McGrath - Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland
writer: "The Silver Darlings"
10-23-1943 - Roger Scott - London, England - d. 10-31-1989
disc jockey: "Three O'Clock Thrill"; "Hitline"

October 23rd deaths

01-31-1872 - Zane Grey - Zanesville, OH - d. 10-23-1939
writer: "Rudy Vallee Hour"
03-16-1892 - James C. Petrillo - Chicago, IL - d. 10-23-1984
union leader" Head of the American Federation of Musicians
04-09-1916 - Bill Leonard - NYC - d. 10-23-1994
interviewer: "This Is New York"; "In Town Today"
05-10-1909 - Maybelle Carter - Nickelsville, VA - d. 10-23-1978
singer: (Queen of Country Music) "Grand Ole Opry"
05-26-1886 - Al Jolson - Srednick, Lithuania, Russia - d. 10-23-1950
singer: (The Jazz Singer) "Shell Chateau"; "Kraft Music Hall"
06-04-1919 - Robert Merrill - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-23-2004
singer: "An Evening with Romberg"; "Robert Merrill Show"
06-05-1928 - Robert Lansing - San Diego, CA - d. 10-23-1994
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
06-26-1920 - Leonid Hambro - Chicago, IL - d. 10-23-2006
pianist: "WQXR Halloween Party:
07-21-1905 - Diana Trilling - d. 10-23-1996
writer: "NBC University Theatre"
07-26-1915 - Fred S. Fox - St. Louis, MO - d. 10-23-2005
writer: "Freddie the Fox"
08-04-1897 - Abe Lyman - Chicago, IL - d. 10-23-1957
bandleader: "Jack Pearl Show"; "Lavender and New Lace"; "Waltz Time"
12-02-1915 - Adolph Green - NYC - d. 10-23-2002
songwriter: "Columbia Presents Corwin"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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