Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #190
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 6/22/2005 2:35 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 190
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Orson Welles In 1941                  [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
  Timer Recording                       [ ilamfan@[removed] (S Jansen) ]
  Jack Benny and the Doctor's House Ca  [ OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin) ]
  WNAR OTR Broadcasting                 [ Randy Collins <rlcollins1@adelphia. ]
  12" v. 16" transcriptions             [ "Austotr" <austotr@[removed]; ]
  6-22 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Air Check and Double Check?           [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Pedometers, etc.                      [ Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed] ]
  Re: Richard Boone                     [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
  OTR streamed over the Internet        [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
  WNAR                                  [ "Andolina, Joe" <Joe_Andolina@cable ]
  airchecks                             [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]

  Re: 14 inch transcriptions            [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Hitler speeches                       [ "Dick G. Wamser" <snapp@computercon ]
  ALL GAS AND GAITERS                   [ mikeandzachary@[removed] ]
  ETs 12" and 16"                       [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:12:00 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:45:38 +0000
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Orson Welles In 1941

[removed] King  posted

Lady Esther Presents Orson Welles 12-22-41 "The Happy Prince"

This is interesting to me as I had not been aware of this broadcast, having 
never seen it in any log before.  But I did find that Jerry Haendiges has 
it listed as a Mercury Theater broadcast. The reason for my interest was 
that I have a copy of an Orson Welles Theater broadcast entitled "Christmas 
Show; St Luke Chapter 2 with the same date 12-22-41.

It doesn't seem likely to me that both these shows were broadcasted the 
same night.  Can anybody shed light on this mystery?

I haven't posted in quite some time having been ill for most of the first 
of the year, but I have now read all of the posts and think I'm all caught 
up.  It's nice to back.

George Aust

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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:17 +0000
From: ilamfan@[removed] (S Jansen)
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Timer Recording

Several choices for timed recording of shows:

If you have a computer, a Windows/PC utility called "Total Recorder" allows 
you to record any audio that comes through your computer in any number of 
audio formats on a timer - no problem to set the timer and record a wav or 
mp3 from a web/radio broadcast.  Not a very expensive program, and terribly 
useful.

If you don't have the computer handy, you might have one of those 
old-fashioned "video cassette recorder" machines around.  A hi-fi stereo 
VCR records very high quality audio (nearly digital quality).  Simply hook 
up the audio input to your radio, pop in a tape, and set the timer to 
record during the time your show plays (evidently some recorders "need" to 
have a video source present, too, so you might need to plug in a video 
source/tv also - try and see - mine doesn't need the video plugged in to 
record audio).  Plus, you can get 6 hours on a single tape.  Plus PLUS you 
can pick up a brand new stereo VCR for about $50 these days (get one before 
they're all gone!).

Hope this helps!

Stephen Jansen

--
Old Time Radio never dies - it just changes formats!

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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:43 +0000
From: OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jack Benny and the Doctor's House Call

Reading George Tirebiter's question about whether the actor who played
Jack's doctor was replaced for the later broadcast brought to mind how
wonderfully sarcastic Frank Nelson was on Jack's shows.  Frank, playing
a doctor making a house call for Jack, was his usual, snappy character.
Jack, getting perturbed and realizing that Frank was not his regular
doctor, told him:
"You're not my regular doctor!  Where's MY doctor?"
"Oh, he's at a funeral!"
"Oh", Jack inquired, "Did one of his patients die?"
"Nooooooooooo!  One of mine did!"

Stuart Lubin

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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:48:51 +0000
From: Randy Collins <rlcollins1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WNAR OTR Broadcasting

[removed] informed us of the following concerning Charles' post 
regarding WNAR-AM:

 > Charles forwarded us the url for WNAR and mentioned "great programming, 
day and night" but
 > if you are tuning in looking for oldtime radio, you won't find it day 
and night.  It is Christian
 > programming, supplied by 3 Angels Broadcasting and aired on WNAR which 
is a low power
 > FM station.  For otr, there are about a half-dozen internet-only 
stations airing otr day and night.
 > This station has nothing to do with oldtime radio.

I thank him for informing me of WNAR-FM, but it seems to me the WNAR-AM 
that Charles spoke of IS all about OTR. Here is their schedule for Tuesday, 
June 21: WNAR Eastern time zone programming

Tuesday

00:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

00:07                        CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER

01:00                        LIGHTS OUT

01:30                        QUIET PLEASE

02:00                        SECRET AGENT

02:15                        THE AVENGERS

03:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

03:05                        GLEN MILLER

03:30                        BENNY GOODMAN

04:00                        HARRY LIME

04:30                        WEIRD CIRCLE

05:00                        INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES

05:30                        UNSHACKLED

06:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

06:07                        CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER

07:00                        PHILO VANCE

07:30                        THE MOLLE MYSTERY THEATER

08:00                        THE SAINT

08:30                        THE VOYAGE OF THE SCARLET QUEEN

09:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

09:05                        ACADEMY AWARD THEATER

10:00                        THE LINE UP

10:30                        OZZIE AND HARRIET

11:00                        NERO WOLFE

11:30                        UNSHACKLED

12:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

12:07                        JOHNNIE  DOLLAR SERIES PART 2

12:30                        WHITEHALL 1212

13:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

13:05                        CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER

14:00                        DARK FANTASY

14:30                        ADVENTURES BY MORSE

15:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

15:07                        SUPERMAN

15:30                        DUFFY'S TAVERN

16:00                        LUX RADIO THEATER

17:00                        FAMILY THEATER

17:30                       SIX SHOOTER

18:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

18:17                        MUTUAL RADIO THEATER

19:00                        NICK CARTER

19:30                        WILD BILL HICKOCK

20:00                        CHALLENGE OF THE YUKON

20:30                        THE LONE RANGER

21:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

21:07                        SUPERMAN

                                  JOHNNY DOLLAR SERIES

21:30                        GUNSMOKE

22:00                        DRAGNET

22:30                        INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES

23:00                        NATIONAL NEWS

23:05                        JEAN SHEPHERD

Seems as though every day unfolds with solid otr broadcasting all day long. 
I have no connection to WNAR-AM, just wanted to show Charles' original post 
seems to be correct. The url for WNAR's homepage again is 
[removed] R. Collins

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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:49:53 +0000
From: "Austotr" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  12" v. 16" transcriptions

In issue #189, Joe Salerno asked

 > Do we have listers here that could comment on the methods of program
 > distribution used in Europe or Australia?

G'Day Joe, check out Craig Nugent's article on Transcriptions in Australia:

[removed]

if you have any other questions just post them.

On another note:

Regarding the recent question about Series that were broadcast in multiple
countries, did we find out if the researcher needed more information?  A
list could be made, I wouldn't post it here as it would be a long list and
we know that Hal will take it to heart that Archie didn't cut it in
Australia.  I don't know why as the comics certainly had quite a market.  It
must have been the 'voice'.

Ian Grieve

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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:04 +0000
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  6-22 births/deaths

June 22nd births

06-22-1894 - Major George Fielding Eliot - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-xx-1971
cbs military analyst during World War II
06-22-1901 - Jack Whiting - Philadelphia, PA - d. 2-15-1961
singer: "MGM Radio Club"
06-22-1902 - Phil Duey - Macy, IN - d. 4-7-1982
singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Leo Reisman Orchestra"; "Happy Bakers"
06-22-1903 - Ben Pollack - Chicago, IL - d. 6-7-1971
bandleader: Bib band remotes - became the Bob Crosby Orchestra
06-22-1906 - Billy Wilder - Sucha, Austria-Hungary - d. 3-27-2002
screenwriter, film director: "Lady Esther Screen Guild Theatre"; "Lux Radio 
Theatre"
06-22-1907 - Mike Todd - Minneapolis, MN - d. 3-22-1958
film producer: "Closing the New York World's Fair"
06-22-1912 - June Carroll - Detroit, MI - d. 5-16-2004
composer: "New Faces of 1948"
06-22-1916 - Johnny Jacobs - d. 2-8-1982
announcer: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; "Frontier Gentleman"; "Granby's 
Green Acres"
06-22-1919 - Gower Champion - Geneva, IL - d. 8-25-1980
choreographer: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Guest Star"
06-22-1920 - Paul Frees - Chicago, IL - d. 11-1-1986
actor: Jethro Dumont/Green Lama "Green Lama"; Robert Aladdin "Mr. Aladdin"
06-22-1930 - Roy Drusky - Atlanta, GA - d. 9-24-2004
singer: "Grand Old Opry"
06-22-1932 - Prunella Scales - Sutton Abinger, Surrey, England
actress: Sybil Fawlty "Fawlty Towers"
06-22-1949 - Meryl Streep - Summit, NJ
actress. "Earplay"

June 22nd deaths

01-14-1909 - Joseph Losey - La Crosse, WI - d. 6-22-1984
director: "Words at War"
01-26-1899 - Wyllis Cooper - Pekin, IL - d. 6-22-1955
producer, writer, director: "Lights Out"; "Quiet Please"
05-03-1897 - Charlie Lung - England - d. 6-22-1974
actor: Paul Sycamore "You Can't Take It with You"; "Wild Bill Hickok"; "Escape"
05-10-1899 - Fred Astaire - Omaha, NE - d. 6-22-1987
dancer, actor: "Fred Astaire Show"
05-10-1902 - David O. Selznick - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-22-1965
film producer: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
05-10-1907 - Pee Wee Hunt - Mount Healthy, OH - d. 6-22-1979
composer: "The Hoagy Carmichael Show"
05-21-1917 - Dennis Day - The Bronx, NY - d. 6-22-1988
singer, comedian: "Jack Benny Program"; "Day in the Life of Dennis Day"
06-07-1896 - Hope Summer - Mattoon, IL - d. 6-22-1979
actress: Clara "Girl Alone"
06-10-1922 - Judy Garland - Grand Rapids, MN - d. 6-22-1969
singer, actress: Romantic Interest "The Hardy Family"; "Good News of 1938"
08-10-1902 - Venezuela Jones - d. 6-22-1995
actress: Susie Robinson "Our Gal Sunday"
10-18-1908 - Rene Garriguenc - d. 6-22-1998
composer: "Rogers of the Gazette"; "Advs. of Sam Spade, Detective"
12-09-1927 - Benny Green - Leeds, England - d. 6-22-1998
musician, conversationalist, writer: ""Stop the Week"; "Kaleidoscope"
12-28-1896 - Rose Franken - Gainesville, TX - d. 6-22-1988
writer: "Claudia and David" based on her stories
12-29-1892 - Emory Parnell - St. Paul, MN - d. 6-22-1979
actor: Grouch "Grouch Club"; "Eddie Bracken Show"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
-- Ron Sayles Milwaukee, Wisconsin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:26 +0000 From: Wich2@[removed] To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: Air Check and Double Check? Dear Gang- Re: Tom Hood's question whether an other-source recording of an event that was broadcast was an aircheck: The technical answer would be "no," yes? Such a record is valuable in it's own right; but if it wasn't a Check (-ing copy) of what was actually Air (-ed), I wouldn't call it an aircheck. Best, -Craig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:52:04 +0000 From: Stephen A Kallis <skallisjr@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: Pedometers, etc. Speaking of the Lone Ranger pedometer, Jim Nixon observed, > I can't remember exactly what I sent in to get the pedometer, but I > hope it wasn't more than one Cheerios boxtop and a dime, because the darn > thing lasted about three days and broke! I don't recall exactly how I was motivated to send for one. However, mine worked fine for as long as I used it. It came with detailed instructions for proper use. I started finding out how far I walked through a normal day, etc., but after a while, the novelty wore off. Few other radio premiums did that happen with. While still on the subject of radio premiums, I recall that some I got because they were necessary, such as Code-O-Graphs (which I still think of as "equipment" rather than as premiums), some I got because they were useful; some, because they were cool. The Sky King Mystery Picture Ring, where one drawing of Sky King dissolved into another, had little utility, but the picture change was really fascinating. The Buck Rogers Ring of Saturn (which broke less than a day after I got mine) just looked neat in the dark (as a child, anything luminous seemed to be touched by the supernatural). Many rings with secret compartments (Aztec Sun God Ring, Magni-Glo Writing Ring, etc.) were nice, but nobody I knew, including me, ever put anything in the secret compartments. Most of the premiums in my collections still perform as well as they did when I first got them. The ink in pens and stamp pads has dried out, but the stamp inks I've renewed. One of the stranger premiums, the Tim Mix Ralston Straight Shooters Signal Arrowhead, a clear plastic oversize arrowhead with panpipe whistles, siren, magnifying lens, and reducing ("smallifying") lens, still functions, even to the siren. (It was awkward, being a tad big for a pocket item, and while a child, I found no use for the reduction lens.) Stephen A. Kallis, Jr. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:52:37 +0000 From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: Re: Richard Boone Kenneth Clarke wrote: > I was looking at the births/deaths list and noticed a > listing for Richard Boone. It listed his credits as "Dragnet". > I don't remember Richard Boone ever appearing on that > program. I've personally never heard Boone on "Dragnet" either - or maybe I have, but didn't recognize him. He and Webb did become friends during the pre-TV era, having met while appearing in the film "Halls of Montezuma" (1950). Webb did tend to hire actors he'd befriended on movie sets - the most noticable examples being Harry Morgan ("Appointment with Danger"), Stacy Harris ("Appointment with Danger"), Martin Milner ("Halls of Montezuma") and Lee Marvin ("You're in the Navy Now"). Boone did portray Captain Hamilton, Intelligence Division, in the 1954 "Dragnet" feature film. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:55:54 +0000 From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: OTR streamed over the Internet X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Here is a schedule of OTR streamed over the Internet with links [removed] *** This message was altered by the server, and may not appear *** *** as the sender intended. *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:56:04 +0000 From: "Andolina, Joe" <Joe_Andolina@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: WNAR Someone posted saying that WNAR that Charles posted about has nothing to do with OTR. Well I've been listening to it at work yesterday throughout the day and today, and it sounds very much like OTR. For a matter of fact, I'm listening to Burns & Allen. Perhaps the poster got to the wrong link? Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:29:38 -0400 From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: airchecks IMO an aircheck is a recording made from a radio broadcast and will contain whatever was heard on the radio, not necessarily at the event itself. A parallel recording of such an event, while valuable, will not necessarily contain the commentary of an on-air announcer, commercials, network and local station IDs, etc. so the content will be different in some details. It is also possible that the a commercially issued location recording may have sections removed due to time limitations, while the aircheck could contain more of the event joe salerno ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:49:53 -0400 From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: Re: 14 inch transcriptions On 6/22/05 12:18 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote: >Radio transcriptions came in both 12 and 16 inch sizes and are both >appropriately called "radio transcriptions" or "electrical transcriptions". There were also 14 inch transcriptions -- this was a format occasionally used by RCA Victor in the early to mid thirties for various Victrolac pressings. They generally held 10 to 12 minutes per side, although 15 minutes could fit with close grooving. Victor had experimented with close grooving on Vitaphone movie soundtrack discs as early as 1930-31, allowing the reduction of those recordings from 16 inches to 12 without significant loss of sound quality. The "His Masters Voice On The Air" series of 1932, promoting upcoming Victor record releases, was distributed in the 14 inch Victrolac format, as were some of the 1932-33 Sherlock Holmes programs for G. Washington Coffee. There were no doubt other series in this format that haven't yet been documented. The biggest advantage of the 14 inch size was probably one of economy -- a 14 inch disc weighed less than a 16 inch disc, and would save on shipping costs. Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:45:02 -0400 From: "Dick G. Wamser" <snapp@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: Hitler speeches X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Hello all: I have come into possession of a one mil Scotch open reel tape recorded at [removed] IPS in March of 1968. Its one side contains a recording of Hitler's speeches from 1939 to 1945 narrated by a German professor. The records were pressed in Germany in about 1965. The album contents were copied in English on sheets of paper inside the tape box. If anyone on the list is interested in either the reel or a two-audio cd copy, email me directly. The introduction to the recording (done in English) was evidently done by the person transferring the recordings to tape. This introduction is small enough to be sent to anyone interested as an email audio attachment. All in all, a better than average transfer for 1968. The open reel machine was a Tandburg, and I suspect the rest of the equipment was similar in quality. Dick, Donna, Clayton, Mizzy, Bart and Ginger *** This message was altered by the server, and may not appear *** *** as the sender intended. *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:45:11 -0400 From: mikeandzachary@[removed] To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: ALL GAS AND GAITERS I've been listening lately to the old BBC series ALL GAS AND GAITERS. While I'm greatly enjoying the shows, I'm at a loss as to the meaning of the series' title. I know what "gas" is, and I know what "gaiters" are. Does anyone know the title's meaning? Thanks to all, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:19 -0400 From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: ETs 12" and 16" Joe Salerno has written about the size of ETs. I copied many of the 16" variety from the WNAX and KSCJ collections. But years later, I discovered the 12" microgroove variety, and still have some in my collection. They were not made in the 1930s. Some were 12" 33 1/3 rpm wartime recordings made in the 1940s (don't know about groove size). Some were from Radio Nederland made in the 1970s. Those were microgroove. And I have 600 hours of "Golden Age of Radio Theater" hosted by Victor Ives. Someday I plan to get these copied to cassette. Also, there are many that contained commercials for just about anything you can name! Ted Kneebone. OTR website: [removed] Democrats: [removed] 1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / Phone: 605-226-3344 -------------------------------- End of [removed] Digest V2005 Issue #190 ********************************************* Copyright [removed] Communications, York, PA; All Rights Reserved, including republication in any form. 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