Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #271
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/21/2001 8:15 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2001 : Issue 271
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Re: Newspaper listings on CD ROM      [ OTRChris@[removed] ]
      cassettes                             [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
      radio reproductions                   [ Garry Lewis <glewis@[removed] ]
      The Mind's Eye                        [ Henry Howard <hhoward@audiotheater. ]
      Godfrey and Chesterfield              [ "Cope Robinson" <coplandr@bellsouth ]
      Speaking of Bataan and WW11---        [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
      Mr. District Attorney                 [ "Richard Pratz" <[removed]@home ]
      Lone Ranger supporting voices         [ Joe Salerno <salernoj@[removed]; ]
      Re: Harlan Stone                      [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
      Basil Rathbone's Cemetery             [ "welsa" <welsa@[removed]; ]
      Newsletter from clubs                 [ vigor16@[removed] ]
      Basil Rathbone                        [ "Robert Fells" <rfells@[removed]; ]
      neuritis and neuralgia                [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
      Meredith Willson column               [ Marklambert@[removed] ]
      Re: WNET                              [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
      Basil Burial                          [ "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@charter- ]
      Rathbone                              [ John Henley <jhenley@[removed] ]
      Re: Station Breaks                    [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      WHIZ radio?                           [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:26:08 -0400
    From: OTRChris@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Newspaper listings on CD ROM

    A few digests back someone had inquired about libraries puting their old
    microfiche
    of newpaper archives on CD ROM.
    This it was stated would be a great resource for OTR researchers .
    In the alternate I am personally aware of quite a few actual people and
    organizations
    that have quite a compilation of actual pages of radio listings from old
    newspapers .

    I have complete access to most of them . What would it take technically
    speaking  to have the image taken and put on a CD ROM?   With this
    information I would be happy to discuss this possibilty with owners of these
    old radio pages from newspapers of days past.  Would  there be any  demand
    for  this  compilation?
    If it were at all successful others may want to jump on the bandwagon with
    their
    old newspaper listings as well.  Perhaps some of our researchers could spend
    more time at home with this sort of resource than in the library ?  Who
    knows??
    Just an idea . One which will probably be shot down very quickly from a
    technical point of view or just plain cost perspective.

    -Chris

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:26:11 -0400
    From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  cassettes

>     I looked at the length of tape that had been played back:
>     Ăt was "wrinkled"! The rest of the tape looked normal ("unwrinkled").

    It sounds like the take-up reel of the cassette is jamming.  It's also
    possible that the tape has gotten sticky and is sticking to the capstan or
    the roller.

    Stick a pencil or something that'll engage the reel of the cassette and run
    the tape through the cassette by hand.  The action should be smooth.  If it
    isn't, the cassette is jammed and won't play properly until it's freed
    somehow.  A coupld of ways to deal with this:  One, take the cassette and
    give it a good squeeze so that the tape is sort of centered in its coil on
    the reel.  This often smooths out cheap cassettes, but I don't recall if
    uneven winding is a problem on Memorex.

    The other thing to do is to run the tape on fast-forward all the way to the
    end and then run it back again.  This sometimes frees the reels as well.

    The wrinkled sections of the tape can probably be salvaged if you're
    reasonably lucky.  If the cassette is operating properly, these sections
    should play fairly well.  Make sure that the tape hasn't become twisted.
    This occasionally happens and the only way to correct it is to pull some
    tape out until both twists are visible, then rewind the tape back into the
    cassette.  Do not try this in the presence of a blowing fan, an open window,
    or a cat.

    If the tape is sticky, I think its surface can sometimes be cleaned with
    rubbing alcohol.  You'd pull the entire tape by hand through a folded
    handkerchief dipped in plain old rubbing alcohol.  I haven't run into this
    condition, but I've heard of it.

    Then copy the cassettes onto something else.  The cassettes were probably
    fine when you bought them, but they're hardly guaranteed for fourteen years:
    strange things happen to organic chemicals over time.  If there's a true
    archival recording medium, I have yet to find it.

    M Kinsler
    512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 740 687 6368
    [removed]~kinsler

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:26:15 -0400
    From: Garry Lewis <glewis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  radio reproductions

    Well look what I found-

    [removed]

    			yours tripping in the 50's,

    				Garry D. Lewis
    --
    Remember: for every silver lining, there is a cloud!

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:26:18 -0400
    From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  The Mind's Eye

    Begun in 1971, The Mind's Eye is now part of
    SOUNDELUX AUDIO PUBLISHING

    [removed]

      Henry Howard - moderator of  radiodrama@[removed]
    770 923 7955                   [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:26:24 -0400
    From: "Cope Robinson" <coplandr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Godfrey and Chesterfield

       On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:42:29 -0400

>     From: leemunsick@[removed]
>     To: [removed]@[removed]

>     On another product--Chesterfield cigarettes--did the reader know that the
>     slogan and the whole idea of "Buy 'em by the Carton" came not from Liggett
>     & Myers, or even their agency?  It came from a suggestion by Arthur
>     Godfrey, who introduced the slogan and pounded it for the rest of their
>     relationship.

    That is certainly possible since Godfrey had a nice way of inventing his own
    commercial language and since, as you point out, he was such a great
    salesman, the sponsor was generally delighted with his commercial
    innovation. But I would like your source for stating that Godfrey invented
    the "Buy 'em by the carton" slogan.  It does not appear in m memory but it
    was indeed a long time ago and my memory is slippery. In 1948 I was employed
    by Newell-Emmett, Liggett & Myers ad agency, one of my assignments, as a
    radio account executive was both Godfrey shows sponsored by Chesterfield. In
    1951, I joined L&M as their advertising director and was employed by them
    until I retired in 1980. That meant that I had more than a little to do with
    the termination of the Godfrey shows on CBS.

     > I'm told by an L&M marketing exec. that during the time period that they

>     sponsored Mr. Godfrey on CBS (before HE fired THEM, because of his lung
>     cancer), Chesterfields also were represented by Perry Como (on NBC) and
>     Bing Crosby (ABC). which three lent themselves to the Chesterfield ABC
>     campaign ("Always Buy Chesterfields" for Arthur Godfrey, Bing Crosby and
>     Perry Como.  The cigarette maker at the same time also sponsored Bob Hope,
>     Jo Stafford and Dragnet (you may have heard of some of these).

    Your source here I believe is incorrect and certainly, whoever he is, was
    not working at Liggett in a marketing position at the time we mutually
    dissolved our relationship with Arthur.  We didn't fire Arthur and he didn't
    fire us.  Incidentally, I think you will find that the ABC "Always Buy
    Chesterfield" predates the sponsorship of those three gentlemen but indeed
    was extensively used during their contracts.

>     The President of Liggett & Myers (now the foreign-owned Liggett Group)
>     didn't like Godfrey.  But he loved the results of presenting his
>     programs:  Arthur Godfrey sold more Chesterfields than all of the others
>     above combined!  Now that's salesmanship!  Much more in my promised tome!

    The Liggett Group is part of Brooke Group LTD which is, I believe, based in
    Miami.  At the very least the remains of Liggett & Myers is not foreign
    owned.  Ben Few, as I assume you know, was the President of Liggett & Myers
    during the Godfrey years. He was my boss and he never expressed any
    displeasure over Godfrey in my presence and since I was so close to both Few
    and Godfrey, I think he would have.  And further for the record, Godfrey was
    an excellent salesman for Chesterfield but it would have been impossible in
    those days, if not now, to attribute specific sales to any one of those
    radio shows. I will look forward to your "promised tome" and by that time
    you will have discovered that the Crosby Chesterfield show was on CBS.

    Cope Robinson

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:26:26 -0400
    From: Jer51473@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Speaking of Bataan and WW11---

     does anyone know of the existence of broadcasts of the liberation of Camp
    Cabantuan(sp) in the Phillipines in 1945? I recently bought a book from Sams
    this summer entitled Ghost Soldiers. I consider myself an amateur historian
    of WW11 and I knew that these Bataan survivors were liberated near the end of
    the war. What shocked me was to learn that they were liberated by [removed]
    Rangers via a very well planned and highly dangerous raid. One hundred
    rangers were involved to free about three hundred mostly American prisoners
    and usher them safely across many miles of enemy territory. To put this in
    better perspective one has to consider the unbelieveable deteriated physical
    condition of the prisoners. Anyway, as many books, movies , and vidios I have
    been exposed to about the war, I only recently became aware of this daring
    raid. All the rangers were highly decorated for valor and at the time it was
    called one of the grearest feats in all our military history with good media
    exposure. Since then its seems to have been forgotten and it dominated the
    headlines for only a short period of time. The book suggests that events
    immediately following such as Iwo Jima, Okinawa, etc. took center stage and
    the raid went to the background. Only 2-3 rangers and 2 prisoners were lost
    during the raid as compared to about 1000 Japanese soldiers, so you can see
    this was a big deal that seems to have been lost in history. Does anyone know
    of otr coverage or mention? I would love to hear the broadcasts.

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:30:26 -0400
    From: "Richard Pratz" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "OTR (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Mr. District Attorney

    I'd like to put a face on the voice of one of my favorite OTR actors I
    haven't seen discussed in this forum. Anyone out there able to supply a link
    to a picture of actor Jay Jostyn (1905-1977).....remembered by many as "Mr.
    District Attorney" (1939-51)?  I've read Dunning and discovered many
    interesting facts I hadn't been aware of. During my listening years, Jay
    always played the lead. But I see Dwight Weist (discussed here recently)
    also played the role as the fearless crusader for justice and truth as did
    Raymond Edward Johnson and David Brian. As for "sidekicks", how about the
    DA's secretary played by Vicki Vola and Edith Miller? Other names I
    recognize are Arlene Francis as Miss Rand, and Walter Kinsella in various
    police roles as well as Len Harrington, the ex-cop turned DA's investigator.
    Frank Lovejoy, Paul [removed] list goes on. Inspired by the exploits of
    New York's racket-busting DA of the late 30's, Thomas E. [removed] can hear
    Peter Van Steeden's stirring theme in my mind as clear as day as the "voice
    of the law", Maurice Franklin and/or Jay Jostyn gave the hero's credo - -
    "MR. DISTRICT ATTORNEY! CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE! GUARDIAN OF OUR FUNDAMENTAL
    RIGHTS TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS! (Theme up full) (from
    echo chamber)....and it shall be my duty as district attorney not only to
    prosecute to the limit of the law all persons accused of crimes perpetrated
    within this county but to defend with equal vigor the rights and privileges
    of all its [removed]"  It always gave me goosebumps hearing that! My
    hazy memory recalls the program as one of radio's greats. Anyone else feel
    the same?

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:03:37 -0400
    From: Joe Salerno <salernoj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lone Ranger supporting voices

    Can someone post the names of the supporting actors on the LR and the roles
    they typically portrayed?

    Example - good guys - the old timer, military leader, Lincoln, Horaec
    Greeley or as a bad guy - the old gang leader

    the woman - might be Hispanic or Barbara (name forgotten) the saloon singer

    Thunder Martin

    Clarabell Hornblow

    others?

    Joe Salerno (who wasn't on the show)

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:04:14 -0400
    From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Harlan Stone

>     From: "Stanley Probstein" <cwarner3@[removed];

>     Enjoyed hearing you many Saturday mornings on the Archie radio program.
>     Thanks for the memories, Stan.

    Thank you kindly, Stan. Appreciate your having been a fan of the show.

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    Jughead

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:07:30 -0400
    From: "welsa" <welsa@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Basil Rathbone's Cemetery

    According to my info, Rathbone is indeed buried in NY.  Specifically,
    Ferncliff Cemetery, Hartsdale, Westchester County, NY.  I have no idea why
    he's there, but my goodness!  You should see the list of folks who are
    decomposing in the same neighborhood.  Burials there include Maxwell
    Anderson, James Baldwin, Bela Bartok, Ray Bloch, Joan Crawford, Alan Freed,
    Judy Garland, Oscar Hammerstein, Moss Hart, Jerome Kern, Marion Lorne, Elsa
    Maxwell and many more.  You can see the complete list at:
    [removed];FScemeteryid=64525

    Anyone know why this cemetery attracts so many notables?

    Ted Meland

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:07:28 -0400
    From: vigor16@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Newsletter from clubs

    Hi folks:

    I am looking for information about club publications focusing on OTR.  I
    would like to receive club pubs that have articles and the like.  I am
    not wanting to use the Digest for commercial filler, so please contact me
    directly by e-mailing me.  If you have samples, please send them.  I'd be
    interested in knowing how clubs are doing around the country.  I had a
    club in St. Louis a few years ago.  It was hard to get folks to keep
    coming back.  With all of you guys out there writing in on this page,
    there must be a wealth of interest in collecting and listening to OTR out
    there.    I want to try the club again this fall.  I do have questions
    about club forming.  I will raise 2 of them.

    1.  What do you do about people who trade dups of shows in mass
    quantities.  I am talking garbage bags full.  It got so into trading that
    the listen oriented members were thinking of not coming back.  I sided
    with the listeners and found myself in the middle of a controversery.  We
    decided to limit copying and trading.  Reason was that there are a lot of
    hard working collectors out there that give us their time and share there
    collection with us for a modest fee.  If we all dublicate and create more
    tape generations, the hobby cannot get better.  I found most of the club
    being disbanded.  We took the club home, from a community center, with 4
    members on an irratic schedule and has petered out.
    2.  How do you get members, as well meaning as they are, to stay quiet
    during programs.  I am not talking about you enthusiastic listeners--you
    have radio etticott.  (however you spell it, I saw it on radio)  I mean,
    people who may not understand our lingo or the concept of "watching the
    radio".  Some people do not seem to feel comfortable watching the big
    speaker.  Maybe that is what 50 years of tv has given us.  (I don't
    capitolize tv, because I don't capitolize radio and tv hasn't offered
    much that radio didn't.  Why should tv get a better billing)  Anyway, I
    know that's a lot to think about, but this hobby is my passion and
    something I want to share with others.  I need some ideas on the best way
    of doing it.  I have found, despite the problems, clubs to be one of the
    best way of doing it.  I have one friend who says that clubs should be in
    a home, because of the authenticity of listening.  Ha!  that's
    ponderable.  Deric  ps. if you live in St. Louis and want to start a
    club, write me directly at my e-mail address.  OTR is a joy!!!!

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:07:26 -0400
    From: "Robert Fells" <rfells@[removed];
    To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Basil Rathbone

    In response to an inquiry in the last Digest, Basil Rathbone is indeed
    buried in a New York cemetery: Ferncliff in Hartsdale, NY, to be exact.  And
    if we're going to be that picky, I should add that his remains are not
    really buried, they are entombed in a mausoleum crypt.

    Mr. Rathbone wrote an interesting autobiography in 1962, In and Out of
    Character, which has recently been republished.  The book reveals him as
    being rather humorless, at least in his old age.  For example, he was not
    amused when somebody on the street would say to him, "Elementary, my dear
    Watson."

    Mr. Rathbone's departure from Hollywood in the summer of 1946 was quite
    sudden.  He walked out on the popular "Sherlock Holmes" series that, his
    autobio infers, cost him his friendship with Nigel Bruce.  He resumed his
    career on the New York stage but returned to weekly radio in 1949 for the
    one-season "Tales of Fatima."  Around 1952, he decided to return to playing
    Sherlock Holmes on the stage.  By that time, Nigel Bruce was too ill to play
    Dr. Watson and the play was, ironically, a failure.   In his last years, Mr.
    Rathbone said he made a point of appearing on the Tonight Show a couple
    times annually to keep his health insurance benefits in the actors' union.

    Mr. Rathbone's last professional appearances were making LP recordings of
    the Sherlock Holmes stories.  These were not released until after his death
    in 1967.  Basil Rathbone was an intelligent man who never seemed happy with
    the film roles he played.

    Bob Fells

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:07:24 -0400
    From: Osborneam@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  neuritis and neuralgia

    In listening to an OTR show with an Anacin commercial, I wonder
    why we no longer hear commercials for pain relievers that say they
    remedy neuritis and neuralgia.  For that matter, I've never heard anyone
    saying they suffer from these maladies!  Why weren't they just grouped in
    with the common headache (which they also claimed to cure)?

    Arlene Osborne

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:11:13 -0400
    From: Marklambert@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Meredith Willson column

         The Des Moines Register's "Famous Iowans" column
    continues; the latest with an OTR connection is on
    Meredith Willson.
         If you'd like to see the column in full, as well as the
    photo of Willson that accompanied the story (including
    a photo of Willson with President Kennedy that did not
    appear in the printed version), go to:
    [removed]
         I've been in contact with the writer of these columns, attempting
    to ensure that OTR experiences get mentioned.  In the Willson
    column, there is a very brief mention of Willson's work at NBC
    radio.
    --Mark Lambert
    marklambert@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:14:16 -0400
    From: Udmacon@[removed]
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: WNET

    NYC's PBS TV station WNET was WNTA before its conversion to Public TV. And
    before that it was WATV, Newark NJ.

    Bill Knowlton

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:14:14 -0400
    From: "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Basil Burial

    	Hi Anybody,
        Basil Rathbone's burial site is in Ardsley,[removed] A indoor  and outdoor
    set up which indoors  are crypts and outdoors  is a grave yard. Basil and his
    wife are in crypts which are on the top level next to the ceiling , I asked
    why and was told that the price range was according to which level you were
    placed, so the lowest level was highest and the highest level was the lowest
    rate. Sounds like a good start for a Abbott and Costello skit.
        I have relatives living several blocks from there and I spent several
    days visiting the place. They give out maps and guide books on their
    "layout". If you ever get a chance to be near Ardsley I would recomend you
    visit   .Like [removed] "It's a good place to visit but I would not want to live
    there!". I was suprised to find so many OTR people as: Mirt and Marge (mother
    and daughter) , Ona Munson, Judy Garland , Ed Sullivan and wife, Jessie
    Crawford and wife, Hugh Marlowe , and so many other show people from movies
    and [removed] don't know why that place was  chosen to be used to lay away so
    many show people in one place.
    				Till Next Time,Harold

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:14:10 -0400
    From: John Henley <jhenley@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Rathbone

    knight555@[removed] said,

>     I just finished reading an interesting article on Basil Rathbone in a
>     magazine that deals in old movies and was surprised to learn that his
>     estate was quite small, but was more surprised to learn that he is buried
>     in New York. Does anyone know [removed]

    Not exactly, but I read his autobiography (rather a dry read,
    like some of his performances) several years ago and if I recall
    correctly, he was doing as much stage work as he could get at
    that point in his career, and most of it was in NY as was his
    apartment.  (Film work as well, but the only offers he got were
    for low-budget horror films.)
    The "why?" of his late-life stage work also speaks to the question
    of his small estate.  Not to be disrespectful, but my understanding
    is that his wife, Ouida - whom he loved dearly, to be sure - loved
    to live in the high style as befits a "star's" wife - lavish parties,
    expensive clothes, servants etc.  She ran through Basil's money
    as fast as, if not faster than, he could earn it.  And when his film
    and stage offers became fewer in his later years, Ouida saw no
    reason to change her mode of living.

    John Henley
    jhenley@[removed]
    ph  (512) 495-4112
    fax (512) 495-4296

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:14:18 -0400
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Station Breaks

    On 8/21/01 11:30 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     So did local broadcasters have varying rules
>     about identifying their station?  Does anybody know more about what the
>     custom of that time was?

    There seemed to be quite a variation in local custom during the
    pre-regulatory era of the 1920s, with some stations making a point of
    IDing before every musical selection for the benefit of DX listeners who
    were only interested in logging as many different stations as possible.
    By the end of the decade, with the establishment of the Federal Radio
    Commission, the law mandated an ID at least every fifteen minutes, unless
    this would disrupt a continuous performance. The compartively few
    surviving recordings of 1930s local programming seem to indicate that
    stations rarely identified beyond the required breaks, and some stations
    were more punctilious than others about following the rules. I was
    listening recently to a 1936-vintage foriegn-language broadcast from a
    tiny station in Brooklyn in which a female announcer is abruptly thrust
    in with a rushed station ID as a record of Lithuanian folk music carries
    on behind her. Apparently the station operator had suddenly realized that
    the quarter-hour break had been missed, and wanted to make sure that the
    law was carried out.

    At the network level, NBC originally made provision for four IDs per
    hour, at :00, :15, :30, and :45. Given that all programs on the network
    were 1/2 hour or 1 hour long until 1929, the network required that the
    performances be designed to stop cold at the :15, :30, and :45 mark for a
    station break, with dramatic programs and speeches being the only
    exceptions to the rule. During the pre-NBC era of the AT&T Red Network,
    the program announcer would read the call letters of all stations
    carrying the program, but this quickly became too cumbersome to manage,
    and by early 1929 the announcer would verbally cue the break by simply
    saying "There is a brief pause for station announcement." The
    introduction of the chimes later in the year made this interruption less
    intrusive -- a musical selection would end, the chimes  would be rung by
    the studio announcer (five notes for Blue and seven notes for Red) with
    no verbal cue, and the network would go silent for fifteen seconds to
    allow the local announcer to insert the identification. The program would
    then resume. This sequence would continue every fifteen minutes until the
    end of the program, when the announcer would indicate the end of program
    with the verbal cue "This program has reached you from the New
    York/Chicago/San Francisco studios of the National Broadcasting Company"
    followed by the chimes. The "studios" cue alerted the local announcer
    that following the chimes the network would go silent for thirty seconds
    to allow for the insertion of local continuity (spots, weather forecasts,
    timechecks, etc.) before the start of the next program. Programs heard
    only on the West Coast would close with "This program has reached you
    from the San Francisco studios of the Pacific Coast Network of the
    National Broadcasting Company." (I've never found any evidence to suggest
    that the "Orange" or "Gold" networks were ever identified by those names
    on-air.)

    Oddly, the one exception I've discovered to the use of the
    specified-location studio cue in this period was "Amos 'n' Andy," which
    closed with "This program has reached you from the studios of the
    National Broadcasting Company" without mentioning that it originated in
    Chicago -- apparently NBC wanted to keep up the illusion of the program
    originating in New York, but couldn't come right out and lie about it on
    the air.

    Interruption of half-hour and hour music/variety shows at the :15 and :45
    points continued thru the end of 1931, but the quarter-past and
    quarter-to breaks were eliminated as of 1932, leaving the top and
    bottom-of-the-hour breaks intact, and gradually phasing out the use of
    the "studios" system cue in favor of a simple "This is the National
    Broadcasting Company" and the now-standardized three-note chimes. (Verbal
    identification of Red or Blue was added to the system cue in 1936-37, and
    again in 1941.) By the mid-thirties, CBS had a somewhat different ID
    policy, with its break in hour shows coming closer to the :40 mark than
    right on the half hour.

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:14:08 -0400
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  WHIZ radio?

    Brian Johnson, noting my observation that Billy Batson (Captain Marvel,
    the original, aka The Big Red Cheese), was a young newscaster at WHIZ
    radio, notes,

>     Gee, I never knew Captain Marvel worked so hard just to keep the
>     streets of Zanesville, Ohio safe!

    Which brings up a question: Just when did WHIZ of Zanesville, OH, first
    go on the air?  Before or after the comic-book station?

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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