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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 42


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Cable OTR
	 REPS Convention
	 Hello!
	 Radio Shack DX-392 sale
	 OTR Digest position on copyrights, etc
	 Adventures in Cassettes WWW Site
	 OTR on SW
	 Back to the [removed]
	 Ray Bradbury on OTR
	 Re: CBS Radio Mystery Theater
	 Invasion from Mars!
	 re: REMEMBER RADIO
	 microwaves vs. ovens
	 Web Pages updates
	 Amos 'n Andy Controversy
	 Shoelaces - Yet Again
	 Re: Pete Franklin

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:53:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Dan Hughes <dhughes@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cable OTR
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Somebody on this list--Randy Minnehan?--has an OTR show on satellite.  I 
need info on this service.  I manage a college radio station, and I want 
to examine the possibility of feeding the OTR satellite network into our 
local TV cable system.  Please contact me email---   Thanks,   ---Dan

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:25:57 est
From: lee_maschmeyer@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: REPS Convention
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Having been to both Newark, and to Cincinnati (where we found the crowd, 
with exceptions, largely surly and uncommunicative) in the past couple 
years, my wife and I have decided to try the Radio Enthusiasts of Puget 
Sound convention this time.  I got the contact information from Lou's web 
page, but the dates he has are for last year.

The convention will be held this year from June 27 to 29 (Thursday to 
Saturday) in Bellevue, Washington.  I don't have the flier yet, but it 
sounds like a bunch of OTR participants are going to be there.  Apparently 
there is nothing planned for the daytime of the 28th, but there are dinners 
on the 27th and 28th and stuff all day on the 29th.  The web page lists the 
convention as "Showcase III", but since the rest of the stuff is from last 
year I presume this is really IV.

The contact information is:

REPS Radio Showcase IV(Michael Sprague)
9936 NE 197th Street
Bothell, Wa 98011
(206) 488-9518

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:31:34 cst
From: "Marty Dzik" <Marty_Dzik_at_CHIPO4B@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Hello!
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

     Hello fellow OTR fans!
     
     This is my first posting on this list.  I've been enjoying OTR for 
     about 3 years now (I'm 31 yrs. old).  Since I've obviously missed the 
     OTR era, I do enjoy it through the various OTR show suppliers and 
     syndicated shows on radio.
     
     The shows that I mostly enjoy are the detective shows, [removed] 
     "Adventures of Sam Spade", "Johnny Dollar", "Boston Blackie", [removed] 
     also, others like "Jack Benny" and "Fibber McGee & Molly" and 
     "Suspense".
     
     
     What I am looking for are episodes of the series "PETE KELLY'S BLUES". 
     The only one episode I've heard was from 1951 with Jack Webb.  Should 
     anyone have any other shows from this series, I would be interested 
     (trades, [removed]).
     
     Thanks!
     
     "OTR Fanatic"...Marty
     
     
     
     
     

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:56:11 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Radio Shack DX-392 sale
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,
 
I just received the Radio Shack flyer last night.  Their DX-392 short
wave receiver with built-in cassette recorder is on sale for $[removed]
until March 2, 1996.  The radio is shown on page 8 of this flyer (#536).
The sale date is on the bottom of the last page.  If I recall correctly, 
this unit plays stereo through the headphones.  The cassette unit might 
also. (Usual discalimer applies.  Pity I don't have an extra $200 floating 
around :-).
 
Frank
 

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:37:59 -0600
From: lgenco@[removed] (Louis Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: OTR Digest position on copyrights, etc
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

The issue of copyrights has arisen several times in the Internet OTR Digest.
Each time, subscribers holding widely divergent opinions have used the
Digest as a forum to express their views.  Each time, the discussion has
devolved to electronic name-calling contests.

The OTR Digest maintainers neither suggest nor condone violations of
copyright laws, and believe interested parties should educate themselves,
using information sources affiliated with the legal profession, rather than
read or disburse possible misinformation, and thus unduly restrict the
rights of individuals.

Short, informative postings concerning specific court findings directly
applicable to the hobby of collecting OTR or the business of selling OTR are
welcome, but lengthy, generic / quasi-factual refererences, misleading
statements, personal opinions or inflammatory remarks on the topic are
highly discouraged.  Also highly discouraged are personal attacks on posters
with opinions that differ from one's own.  Other newsgroups exist for posts
of the latter types.  Subscribers who continue to post such inappropriate
messages in the OTR Digest will lose the privilege of their subscription.

Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:38:09 -0600
From: lgenco@[removed] (Louis Genco)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Adventures in Cassettes WWW Site
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Adventures in Cassettes now has their own WWW page.  OTR Digest readers
interested in looking at (or buying) their wares can access it at:

[removed]


Lou
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WWW page on "Old Time Radio":                   [removed]
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:05:03 -0500
From: Frank_Mallory@[removed] (Frank Mallory)
To: "otr@[removed]"@[removed]
Subject: OTR on SW
Message-ID: <MSGID_1=3A109=[removed]@[removed]>

I just received my (replacement) Grundig YB-400, and I'd like to know if there
is any OTR on short wave.
 

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:23:32 -0600 (CST)
From: joliver@[removed] (W. Joe Oliver)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Back to the [removed]
Message-id: <01I0O0882R0I00097N@[removed]>

     I'd been noticing recently that the List just wasn't as inviting a read 
as it once was.  Our Web Maintainer in his recent piece showed his 
perceptiveness of the problem--too much off subject; too much lecturing; to 
much wordiness.  

     I guess we all can get intoxicated by an available audience and a 
convenient soapbox.  However, it sounds like our List Owner is not going to 
tolerate modest self-corrections. I believe he means "stop [removed] of 
[removed]"  Good! 



W. Joseph Oliver
Department of Communication
Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, TX  75962

   (409-468-4001)

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:57:22 -0500 (EST)
From: passage@[removed] (Frank Passage)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Ray Bradbury on OTR
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Hi All,
 
There was some mention of Ray Bradbury's works put to radio in BRADBURY 13
a couple of issues back.  I'm always on the lookout for shows featuring
his stories.  The list of shows I've found so far follows.  I haven't 
acquired all yet.  If anyone knows of others, I'd love to hear about them.
(I also like Issaic Asimov and Arthur Clark, but we can leave them to 
another time :-).
 
SERIES                   SHOW TITLE / NOTES                         DATE
-----------------------  -----------------------------------------  --------
BRADBURY 13              "Dark They Were And Golden Eyed"           05-20-84   
                         "The Fox and The Forest"                   07-16-85?  
                         "Kaleidoscope"                             05-13-84   
                         "There Was An Old Woman"                   05-05-84   
                         "A Sound Of Thunder"                       06-04-84   
                         "Night Call, Collect"                         
                         "The Ravine"                               04-21-84   
                         "Here There Be Tigers"                     07-01-84   
                         "The Man"                                  06-10-84   
                         "The Happiness Machine"                    07-08-84   
                         "The Wind"                                 06-17-84   
                         "The Veldt"                                04-28-84   
 
CBS RADIO WORKSHOP       "Season of Disbelief / Hail and Farewell"  02-17-56
                           
CHICAGO RADIO THEATER    "To The Chicago Abyss"                     ??-??-??
 
DIMENSION X              "To the Future"                            05-27-50
                         "There Will Come Soft Rains / Zero Hour"   06-17-50
                         "Mars is Heaven!"                          07-07-50, 
                            "  "     "                              01-07-51
                         "The Martian Chronicles"                   08-18-50
                         "And the Moon Be Still As                  09-29-50
                           Bright"
                         "Dwellers in Silence"                      07-19-51
                         "The Veldt"                                08-09-51
                         "Marionettes, Inc."                        08-30-51
                         "Kaleidoscope"                             09-15-51
 
ESCAPE                   "The Earthmen"                             07-25-51
                         "Zero Hour"                                10-04-53
                         "Mars Is Heaven"                           06-02-50
 
CBC SF                   "Fahrenheit 451"                           ??-??-??
 
CBC PLAYHOUSE            "I Sing The Body Electric"                 ??-??-??
 
BBC SF                   "Leviathon 99"                             ??-??-??
                         "Kaleidoscope"                             ??-??-??
 
WORLD SECURITY WORKSHOP  "The Meadow"    
 
NBC SHORT STORY          "The Rocket"
 
??????                   "Something Wicked This Way Comes"          ??-??-??
                            Radio version of Ray Bradbury's movie 
                            soundtrack with narration by Orsen 
                            Welles.
 
RADIO CITY PLAYHOUSE     "The Wind"                                 10-30-49
                         "The Lake" / "Collector's Item"            10-16-49
 
SF 68                    "A Sound of Thunder"                       ??-??-68
                          "    "  "     "
SUSPENSE                 "Kaleidoscope"                             07-12-55
                         "Zero Hour"                                04-05-55, 
                            "   "                                   05-18-58, 
                            "   "                                   01-03-60
                         "The Screaming Woman"                      11-25-48, 
                           "      "       "                         03-01-55
                         "Riabouchinska"                            11-13-47
                         "The Whole Town's Sleeping"                06-14-55,
                           "    "     "       "                     08-31-58
 
STORIES BY OLMSTED       "One Timeless Spring"                      ??-??-??
 
THEATER 10:30 (CBC)      "Dandelion Wine, Part 1: The Happiness     ??-??-??
                            Machine"        
                         "Dandelion Wine, Part 2: "The Time         ??-??-??
                            Machine"                  
                         "Dandelion Wine, Part 3: "Miss Helen       ??-??-??
                            Loomis"                  
                         "Dandelion Wine, Part 4: "Mr. Jonas and    ??-??-??
                            Grandpa"             
 
THINK                    "Mars Is Heaven"
 
VANISHING POINT (CBC)    "The Playground"                           ??-??-??
 
X-MINUS ONE              "The Veldt"                                08-04-55
                         "To The Future"                            04-22-55,
                          "   "    "                                12-14-55
                         "Marionettes, Inc."                        12-21-55
                         "Mars Is Heaven"                           05-08-55 
                         "And The Moon Be Still As Bright"          09-22-55 
                         "Dwellers in Silence"                      11-10-55 
                         "Zero Hour" (15 minutes)                   11-23-55 
                         "Marionettes, Inc."                        12-21-55 
                         "There Will Come Soft Rains / Zero Hour"   12-05-56 
 
Any comments, additions, corrections to the digest would be appreciated
and _has_ to be more fun than copyright discussions :-).
 
Frank
 

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:35:35 -0500
From: Elroywood@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: CBS Radio Mystery Theater
Message-ID: <960131183533_211150052@[removed]>

Oh sure, I realize that this wouldn't be considered "old time radio" per se.
But I enjoyed the series, hosted by EG Marshall in the 70s; in fact it was
my gateway into old radio classics, so to speak.  If anyone perusing this 
letter can lead me to anyone who is selling copies of this show or how I 
might contact the current copyright holder, I would be ever so grateful.  I
remember one collector, H. Edgar Cole of Florida, who sold CBSRMT for a 
while; but I hear he's out of the business completely.

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:38:37 -0500
From: SeptSev@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Invasion from Mars!
Message-ID: <960131203834_411667487@[removed]>

[removed]
Does anyone out there have a personal recollection of Orson Welle's famous
broadcast of "The War of the Worlds?"  My mother in-law remembers. and I
would be interested in your stories.
Yours truly,
Thom Bray
septsev@[removed]
[removed] This weeks' "American Experience" on PBS deals with Orson Welles and has
a good deal of OTR related history! A must see!

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:39:16 -0500
From: BCH66@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re: REMEMBER RADIO
Message-ID: <960131203916_411668071@[removed]>

The radio schedules in the above mentioned book are from August 1939, May
1943,  June 1948 and the NBC personalities everyone new listings ( if I
remember correctly ) were for the 1944-45 season.
When I first became aware of OTR, around 1980 or so, at the age of 13 this is
one of the first books I read. that and the Big BROADCAST.  I am glad that I
have found additional books on OTR 
since then. 

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:47:19 +0500
From: cbholm@[removed] (c holm)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: microwaves vs. ovens
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

  Just remember that microwaves and ovens work in completely different
manners and I doubt that the two would be interchangable in terms of
eliminating tape squeal, regardless of the setting.  The oven uses a heat
differential to raise the tapes temp, while the microwave uses, well,
microwaves to push the atoms of tape around and give them more energy (and
therefore raise their temp)...  

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:36:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Web Pages updates
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

My web site Radio Days is going under some construction.

I am doing major revamps as I switch to RealAudio files.
These files will be usually 3-5 minutes in sound length and
have more substance to them.  The usual size, yet, is much
smaller thanks to the compression. Usually, a download is
about 200K.

Several changes to look for and additions:

New format (I'd like comments, thanks).

February Timelines is in place with expanded sound files.

Complete episode of Captain Midnight from Oct 17, 1939
including commercials from Skelly Oil.  This download runs
about 900K and is the full fifteen minute episode.  I might
consider continuing this series if comments warrant it. 
Or I might go for other 15 minute programs for variety.

The realaudio on this site does not stream in realtime. My
provider does not have the realaudio server necessary (it costs
nearly $10,000, so I don't expect he will have it.) but the 
files can be played by the RealAudio player once downloaded.

Of course, quality suffers some, but I am not trying to provide
archiveable copies.  My goal is to offer an opportunity to hear
samples of programs and make real decisions on what the series
sounds like.  Hopefully, it will guide you toward discovering 
programs you never heard before.

Please pardon the dust if you check out the site.

My opening web page was recently selected to appear in an upcoming
book called The Internet Media Guide, published by Motion Works
Publishing out of San Francisco.

Finally, one other note:  Hopefully, a book I have co-authored with
Meade Frierson III called Science Fiction on Radio in the Fifties
will be out by April. We hope to be selling it at the Convention in
Cincinnati.  Cost will be $[removed]  If anyone is interested in more
info, email me.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Widner                      INTERNET: jwidner@[removed]
Dayton, OH                      WWW: [removed]
COMPUSERVE: 74566,3041          AOL: JimWidner  
                          

                                                 

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Date: 31 Jan 96 21:50:15 EST
From: Steve Lewis <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: Amos 'n Andy Controversy
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Someone recently asked about the reaction to the Amos 'n Andy show at the time
it was broadcast.  There is an excellent book out which covers the history of
the program on both radio and tv and the controversy surrounding it both then
and now.  THE ADVENTURES OF AMOS 'N' ANDY: A SOCIAL HISTORY OF AN AMERICAN
PHENOMENON by Martin Patrick Ely, (The Free Press, 1991).  The book looks at
reactions to the show from both a white and black perspective, both pro and con.
As I recall the arguments are presented in a very even-handed manner and the
book itself is very readable and interesting.

Steve Lewis	  

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:05:26 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Shoelaces - Yet Again
Message-ID: <960131220525_308847309@[removed]>

Hi Gang -                   January 31 - 1996  -- Wednesday - 8:50 PM cst 

My computer was down for well over a week.  My own fault.  I tried to make
it "better" by upgrading the hardware and installing Windows-95.  It is 
said that we learn by our mistakes.  I learned quite a bit during the past
nine days.  I finally got the system back on line yesterday.  Of course I 
was unable to read any otrdigests during the time my computer was spread 
in pieces across my kitchen counter.  Today I read the past 12 issues.  
Rather than comment on all of the interesting material therein, I will 
mention only one of the topics:  THE JACK BENNY SHOE LACES PROGRAM(s). 

This topic was covered before - by me and by others, but the mistique of 
that show plus the questions by new subscribers prompts me to cover it 
again.  

How many of us subscribers actually heard the show?  I did.  Anybody 
else?  I did not have a tape recorder back in December of 1946 - besides,
I was only 9 years old.  The program apparently was in two parts.  From 
what I can gather, Jack bought them on the December 8 broadcast and 
exchanged them (again) on the December 15 broadcast. 

There seems to be a GAP in the Jack Benny Program Archives.  My own 
collection contains programs to November 24, 1946 - then no programs 
until January 5, 1947 and the collection continues from there.  Why the
missing 5 programs?  The entire month of December, 1946 is missing. 

I've been looking for the "shoelaces" program since 1969.  I ran into many 
dead-ends.  Several traders and archivists told me, "yes, I have that 
program in my collection", only to tell me later that they were mistaken 
when they discovered that they do not have them.  What they have is 
probably the same thing I [removed] A tape that starts on November 3, 1946 
and ends on March 2, 1947.  If you don't count the number of weeks between 
those dates, you would assume the December programs are on that tape.  

In 27 years of looking, I have not been able to find anybody who has that 
program. -- But I am not giving up.  We get new people on the list every 
day.  Maybe one of these recent subscribers has some new leads. 

In the meantime, I don't think you'll find the "shoelaces" program in any 
of the normal places.  I don't know of any dealers who have it, and to my 
knowledge NARA and SPERDVAC don't have it either. 

Hopefully the five ETs containing the Jack Benny Programs for December of 
1947 will all turn up in the same place.  That will be a great find. 

Having said that - I hope somebody proves me wrong and will post a reply 
saying that they have access to the "shoelaces" program.    

Happy Taping --  Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois 

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 04:01:51 -0500
From: Lynchmob17@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Pete Franklin
Message-ID: <960131040151_210732331@[removed]>

For your information, Pete "The King" Franklin has been broadcasting
on KNBR 68 in San Francisco for the last 3 1/2 years.  He may be
a loud arrogant SOB but he does know his stuff and he's pretty darn
entertaining.  He doesn't have anything to do with OTR, but neither
does Marty Tabnik's constant harping and pompous showboating.
Gee, I guess I should end with a snide comment like Marty.  Nahh.

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