Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #321
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 10/6/2004 10:18 AM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 321
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      More stars on Lux Radio Theatre       [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
      10-6 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Jean Ruth Hay                         [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      re: halloween shows                   [ Mr Dan <teac35@[removed]; ]
      Halloween Shows                       [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
      Lux Appearances                       [ Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      Gildy's Blade                         [ "" <brad@[removed]; ]
      Re: Halloween Shows                   [ "Marty" <martyd@[removed]; ]
      Halloween shows                       [ JE Purvis <hqsouth@[removed]; ]
      TOBACCO SCRIPTS                       [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
      Rodney Dangerfield on Jack Benny?     [ Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@yahoo. ]
      Dangerfield redux                     [ Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@yahoo. ]
      Rodney Dangerfield and Jack Benny     [ "Mary L. Wallace" <mlwallace57@hotm ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      How the programs worked               [ "evantorch" <etorch@[removed]; ]
      OTR and Thanksgiving                  [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      Favorite Halloween Shows              [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
      Rodney Dangerfield                    [ "GARY SMULLEN" <tsegs@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:24:30 -0400
    From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  More stars on Lux Radio Theatre

         I also remember Vincent Price, (I think, but
    I'm not quite sure) Joan Crawford, and Mercedes
    McCambridge.

    Another OTR Fan,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:02:21 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  10-6 births/deaths

    October 6th births

    10-06-1897 - Jerome Cowan - NYC - d. 1-24-1972
    actor: "Best Plays"; "Philip Morris Playhouse"; "Suspense"
    10-06-1899 - Mitchell Leisen - Menominee, MI - d. 10-28-1972
    director: Lux Radio Theatre
    10-06-1906 - Janet Gaynor - Philadelphia, PA,  - d. 9-14-1984
    hostess, actress: "Hollywood Showcase: Stars Over Hollywood"; "Lux Radio
    Theatre"
    10-06-1907 - Owen Davis, Jr. - NYC - d. 5-21-1949
    actor: Allen McCrea "Those We Love"
    10-06-1908 - Carole Lombard - Fort Wayne, IN - d. 1-19-1942
    actress: "The Circle"; "Hollywood Hotel"
    10-06-1937 - Dawn Bender - d. 8-1975
    actress: Margaret Herbert Murray "One Man's Family"; Suzie Sample "Cousin
    Willie"

    October 6th deaths

    01-25-1916 - Les Crutchfield - d. 10-6-1966
    writer: "Escape"; "Fort Laramie"; "Gunsmoke"
    02-07-1924 - Hattie Jacques - Sandgate, Kent, England - d. 10-6-1980
    actress: Sophie Tuckshop "It's That Man Again"; Agatha Dangelbody "Educating
    Archie"
    04-05-1908 - Bette Davis - Lowell, MA - d. 10-6-1989
    actress: "Cresta Blanca Hollywood Players"; "Prudential Family Hour of Stars"
    05-25-1918 - Henry Calvin - Dallas, TX - d. 10-6-1975
    actor: Joshua Sharpe "Big Guy"
    09-03-1897 - David Rubinoff - Grodno, Russia - d. 10-6-1986
    violinist, conductor: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Rubinoff and His Violin"
    09-19-1888 - Porter Hall - Cincinnati, OH - d. 10-6-1953
    actor: "March of Time"
    10-04-1894 - Cliff Hall - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-6-1972
    comedian: Sharlie "Baron and the Bee, Jack Pearl Show"
    10-23-1901 - Arthur Jacobson - NYC - d. 10-6-1993
    actor: Kirk Harding "Woman in White"; Anthony J. Marleybone "Affairs of
    Anthony"
    11-05-1893 - Theodore von Eltz - New Haven, CT - d. 10-6-1964
    actor: Inspector Fernak "The Saint"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:02:27 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Jean Ruth Hay

    Does anyone know the birth date of Jean Ruth Hay?

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:03:10 -0400
    From: Mr Dan <teac35@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  re: halloween shows
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    jazmaan@[removed] wrote:

>     With Halloween just around the corner, how about some recommendations
>     for Halloween OTR?

      Here's My List:
    Poltergeist - Lights Out
    Sub Basement - Lights Out
    Drop Dead - Arch Obler
    House In Cypress Canyon - Suspense
    The Wailing Wall - Suspense
    The Dead Walk At Night - Inner Sanctum
    The Judas Clock - Inner Sanctum
    The Man On the Moon - X Minus One
    A Sense Of Wonder - X Minus One

    Dan

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:04:54 -0400
    From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Halloween Shows
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    For several Halloweens, I produced and hosted a 4-hour radio show called
    HALLOWEIRD.  This program, which had sponsors, was filled with classic radio
    shows, album trax and various novelty tunes---all related to Halloween.  Here
    are a few thoughts:

    "THE TELL-TALE HEART" by Edgar Allen [removed] by James Mason
    "SORRY, WRONG NUMBER" featuring Agnes Moorehead (either from SUSPENSE or the
    shorter LP Version)
    ESCAPE: "Blood Bath" w/ Vincent Price
    ESCAPE: "Evening Primrose"
    "THE SIGNAL MAN" by Charles Dickens---narrated by Nelson Olmsted
    "THE BODY SNATCHER" by Robert Louis Stevenson---narrated by Nelson Olmsted
    INNER SANCTUM: "Elixir No. 4" w/Richard Widmark
    Various selections from "SPIKE JONES IN STEREO"---which takes a comical spin
    on horror movies and tv shows.
    "AN EVENING WITH BORIS KARLOFF & HIS FRIENDS" (featuring Karloff narration and
    audio movie clips)
    "DROP DEAD---AN EXERCISE IN HORROR" by Arch [removed] "The Dark"
    "THE BLACK CAT" by Edgar Allen [removed] by Nelson Olmsted
    "HOUSE OF USHER" by Edgar Allen [removed] by Nelson Olmsted

    Guess I should stop, huh?  [removed] hope these suggestions help?

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:05:12 -0400
    From: Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "OTR (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Lux Appearances

    Regarding which of the stars on Lux Radio Theater made the most apperances,
    I'm surprised no one has quoted "The Bible" (Dunning).
    He says - - "Near the end of the run, it was estimated that Lux had gone
    through 52,000 pages of script,  496 stars, 1,467 supporting players, 18,667
    music cues, and 22,667 sound effects. [snip] Fred MacMurray and Loretta
    Young headed the 'most numerous appearances' list of stars, with 26 and 25
    roles respectively. Others often heard were Claudette Colbert (24), Barbara
    Stanwyck (23), Cary Grant (22), Don Ameche (21), and Brian Aherne, Ray
    Milland and George Brent (20 each)."

    Rich

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:04:38 -0400
    From: "" <brad@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Gildy's Blade

    On the March 8, 1950 episode of the Great Gildersleeve, a "knife/spatula" was
    offered.  On the handle was Gildy's (Harold Peary's) signature - the
    announcer claimed that Gildersleeve himself invented the knife, which was
    offered for $.50 plus two labels (one from any loaf of bread, and one red
    end-flap from a Kraft Parkay.)  The attendent episode focused around the
    creation of the knife, the stainless steel blade of which is described as 1
    1/4" wide and 7" long.  The handle is rosewood is 4 3/4" long.  One side of
    the blade is serrated, and the other side is a straight edge.  The blade is
    spatula shaped.

    I wonder if anyone has seen one of these - or is lucky enough to own [removed]

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 19:37:38 -0400
    From: "Marty" <martyd@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Halloween Shows

>     With Halloween just around the corner, how about some recommendations for
>     Halloween OTR?

    One of my all-time favorites is a SUSPENSE episode titled "GHOST HUNT".  It
    not just a scary show, but one that involves a broadcaster/dj and an old
    house.  IMHO, really fits the Halloween theme.

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:53:05 -0400
    From: JE Purvis <hqsouth@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Halloween shows

    There's plenty of scary stuff for Halloween listening.
    Some of my favorite classics are:

    SUSPENSE: "House in Cypress Canyon" and the lesser
    known "The Signalman"
    MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER: "Behind the Locked Door"

    The more obscure ones include:

    HALL OF FANTASY: "Out of the Sky" and "The Crawling Thing"
    QUIET PLEASE: "Tanglefoot" and "Green Light"

    All of these are worth a listen. Just turn out the lights and enjoy.

    Jerry

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:26:58 -0400
    From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  TOBACCO SCRIPTS
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    Okay.
    I don't get it.
    How DO you use the Tobacco Website to find OTR scripts?
    HELP!
    Round, firm, and fully-packed,
    Randy Story

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:27:39 -0400
    From: Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Rodney Dangerfield on Jack Benny?

    I just noticed that comic Rodney Dangerfield died today. That
    reminded me that I vaguely recall a Jack Benny Show--pardon
    me--Program in which one of the skits features a character by that
    name. Or maybe Jack plays the character in a skit. I don't remember
    exactly. Anyway, ever since I heard that program--and I can't guess
    which episode it was--I've wondered if Rodney Dangerfield took his
    name from that skit. At least I assume it's a stage name. I don't
    suppose anyone on the list would have any further info on this, hm?
    Alan
    --
    Alan/Linda Bell
    Grand Rapids, MI

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:28:02 -0400
    From: Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Dangerfield redux

    As a follow-up to the message I just sent a few moments ago, I was
    perusing the story of Dangerfield's death on the Yahoo site and came
    across this quote, regarding the "I don't get no respect" line :

    After hearing him perform years later, Jack Benny remarked: "Me, I
    get laughs because I'm cheap and 39. Your image goes into the soul of
    everyone."

    Alan
    --
    Alan/Linda Bell
    Grand Rapids, MI

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    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:28:20 -0400
    From: "Mary L. Wallace" <mlwallace57@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Rodney Dangerfield and Jack Benny

    Dangerfield's passing has prompted me to write to this group about how in
    the early 1940's and again in the 1950's, Jack Benny would refer to a
    western movie star named Rodney [removed] anybody know for sure
    if the real life Dangerfield borrowed that name directly from the Benny
    show? Was Jack a comedy influence for Rodney? I have never heard anything
    about this and it just seems like too much of a coincidence.  I have always
    been tickled by this every time I have heard one of these shows.

    Thanks to anyone who has any clues!

    Mary Lou Wallace

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    Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 02:12:00 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:25:25 -0400
    From: "evantorch" <etorch@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  How the programs worked

    Two questions from someone too young to have ever seen an OTR broadcast.
    1.) Were all of the actors on the stage (if the program was in front of an
    audience) all of the time? When we here Jack Benny or Lux or Burns and Allen
    was the cast sitting down waiting for their parts; were guest stars on the
    stage the whole time?

    2.) How many people used a microphone (for example the RCA 44B). Maybe Hal
    Stone or Lois Culver could explain how each actor knew what mike to go to.
    Would "weighty actors" like Harold Peary have to use an overhead craned
    mike?

    Evan Torch
    Atlanta
    etorch@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:25:57 -0400
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  OTR and Thanksgiving
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    I am putting together a story on OTR and Thanksgiving and I would like to enclude some
    show titles.  I would appreciate hearing from others (on or off line) about thier favorite
    Thanksgiving radio show (s).  I would greatly appreciate it!!  My thanks in advance!!

    Lynn Wagar

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    Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:26:20 -0400
    From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Favorite Halloween Shows
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    My favorite Halloween shows are:

    Baby Snooks-Halloween Pranks or What happened on Halloween 11-1-46

    House of Mystery- The ghost who forgot Halloween  10-27-47

    Lynn Wagar

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    Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:37:33 -0400
    From: "GARY SMULLEN" <tsegs@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Rodney Dangerfield

    The passing of comedian Rodney Dangerfield has reminded me of something I
    have always been curious about. In several Jack Benny programs of the late
    40's, Jack would try to impress Rochester with the caliber of his Hollywood
    connections by dropping the name "Rodney Dangerfield". Now I know from the
    obituaries that the comedian's real name was Jacob Cohen, and that he used
    the name Jack Roy early in his career, but I have never heard any
    explanation of the connection with the Benny show. Apparently, the name was
    an inventiion of the Benny writing staff. Anyone have any info?

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