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Date: 8/29/2004 6:41 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2004 : Issue 284
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Mickey Rooney/Ron Howard              [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
      Two Comedy sketches                   [ "Randall F. Miller Jr." <rfmillerjr ]
      RE: Older Version of Winamp           [ Joseph Cilluffo <[removed]@ve ]
      Rooney Redux                          [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
      Re: MP3 Player For Older Computers    [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
      Chester and Rooney                    [ "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed]. ]
      Re: Software MP3 Player               [ Gord Lepsenyi <lepseg@[removed]; ]
      8-30 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      recreation of play about Warsaw Ghet  [ "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed]; ]
      TO BE OR NOT TO [removed] ROONEY         [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
      Software MP3 player                   [ Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed]; ]
      Software MP3 player                   [ Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed]; ]
      Frank Sinatra on terror?              [ "J. Alec West" <OTR@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:30:44 -0400
    From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mickey Rooney/Ron Howard

>     Particularly in light of the fact that Micky's identification with such
>     early 'Hardy" films, instead of his body of work in some heavy dramatic
>     roles as an adult, ("Bill" on TV was a classic) would bug a lot of
>     performers.

    Many years ago I was in line at the Fox Village Theater in Westwood, CA on a Sunday morning to see
    the latest Star Trek movie when Ron Howard, his wife and kids joined the line right behind me.
    He had recently directed the hit movies "Backdraft" and "Apollo 13" and I was well aware of the
    "Opie Cunningham" jokes that Eddie Murphy had cracked when Ron was a guest host on Saturday Night
    Live.    So in the same vein I said,

    "Omigod! You're Ron Howard aren't you?"
    "Yes, I am" he said politely.
    "Well, I just want to tell you how much I enjoyed your singing in "The Music Man!"
    "Thank you very much," he said very seriously as he shook my hand.  But his wife and kids just
    busted out laughing!

    (In case you've never seen the movie, in a role that predates Opie, little Ronnie Howard sings
    "Gary, Indiana" with a lisp.)

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    Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:31:07 -0400
    From: "Randall F. Miller Jr." <rfmillerjr1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Two Comedy sketches

    I must becoming my companies Old Time Radio expert.  - A title which I am
    not worthy of, especially compared to this esteemed group.
    So now that I have buttered you up.
    Does anyone have any information on
    1.  A Stoopnagle and Budd sketch about Christmas where the poem comes out "
    Twas the Kris before Nighmas when ..."
    and
    2.  An Abbot and Costello sketch about the Susquehanna Hat Factory?
    Any leads would be most appreciated.
    Thanks
    Randy Miller-Senior Engineer WITF/TV/FM/Radio PA

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    Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:31:19 -0400
    From: Joseph Cilluffo <[removed]@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  RE: Older Version of Winamp

    A good resource for those with older computers running older versions of
    Windows is this site:

    [removed]

    They have many older versions of Winamp available.

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 03:23:12 -0400
    From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Rooney Redux

             Sheesh!  All I did was convey a story that happened to me
    regarding a name that someone else brought up on this list.  Now I (or
    my wife) seem to be the villian in the affair.
           We live in the Los Angeles area and see celebrities quite often,
    or at least my wife recognizes them, I seldom do. Normally she whispers
    to me don't turn around now, or don't look now  but so and so is right
    behind you! She is not one to run up to celebrities with an autograph
    book in hand or with other demands. Never would either of us approach a
    celebrity on the street or in a restaurant as we have always respected
    the privacy of these people.
             This was however a public affair(although by invitation only)
    and there were many celebrities there (see, I didn't drop any of their
    names!) who were there to mix with the invitees, the idea I am sure was
    to get the non celebrities to part with some green for a very worthy cause.
              This is why Rooney was there! To be recognized and to be
    gushed over and to chat with the other guests. So I resent the
    implication that we somehow invaded his privacy. Actually his later
    rudeness actually invade my privacy by interupting my private
    conversation with Pat Boone!
                What I didn't say before, was that rather than contributing
    to the worthy cause in some way, Rooney left as soon as dinner was over
    and before the speeches began. I also didn't pass on other
    stories(rumors I'd heard) about what a jerk he was, because I considered
    those to just that, Rumors!
                 I wasn't passing judgement on the man, I was simply telling
    a story I thought others might find interesting, and I didn't think it
    required anybody to spring to his defense with theories of what might
    have been going through his mind, or how he may have blown all his money
    on multiple wives and so we should feel sorry for him, and forgive his
    boorishness.
                  Actually I was expecting someone to pass on another
    personal story about a good encounter with the man, and that would have
    been fine, but no one did.  Rooney is a really good actor and I'll watch
    him in movies any chance I get, but that doesn't change what happened
    that night anymore than what happened that night means that he is a
    terrible man.
                   So ease up out there, I wasn't attacking Rooney, and I
    wasn't attacking any of you on the list either. I guess this means that
    I can't tell the story of who we were sitting with on the Disneyland
    Jungle Ride, or who was sitting in front of us at Dodger Stadium the
    other day! :)
                   Well I still love you all. (Well most of you anyway)!:)

                    George Aust

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 03:26:01 -0400
    From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: MP3 Player For Older Computers

    On 8/28/2004, Timothy Clough wrote:

>     Does anybody have any ideas for a good MP3 software player that works on
>     such legacy equipment? Or, if possible, where can one download a legacy
>     copy of winamp?

    I can provide an older version of Winamp that should work on the older
    computer and will send it direct to Tim. Winamp has the advantage that it
    includes a graphic equalizer which is useful for adjusting the tone of the
    old programs and the prescaler.

    There are many small players and one of my favorites is one that does not
    install stuff all over the place on the computer. You can get it from the
    provider's website and it's free. It supports playlists but otherwise has
    very few features.

    [removed]

    This program has the advantage that it can be installed on every MP3 CD you
    burn and it will automatically start the player whenever the disc is put in
    a computer that has automatic starting. In that case, the player does not
    have to be installed on the computer at all. Also, it's cute and available
    in half a dozen "radio" fronts.

    Don Shenbarger

    [ADMINISTRIVIA: This program does _not_ work on every, "computer that has
    automatic starting," of course, it only functions on Windows machines with
    automatic starting. Not everyone on the list runs Windows; but then,
    Macintosh and linux machines don't really need that "feature" [removed]
    --cfs3]

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 03:27:44 -0400
    From: "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Chester and Rooney

    David sez:

> >     I hope someone can explain about  the
> >     use of "Good" and "Proudfoot" at different times/shows (radio,  TV).

>     According to Parley Baer, he came up with the name Chester Wesley Proudfoot
>     in an ad-lib, and CBS was concerned he'd assert his rights to the name if they
>     used it on the TV series.  Or so he's said in interviews.

    I'm certainly no  expert, but I've always had the impression that the
    decision to have Chester limp on the TV series may have had something to do
    with it. (Which brings up the question: Did Chester limp on radio -- was it
    ever mentioned or alluded to? And whose decision was it for Weaver to use
    the limp as a charactor trait; Weaver's, a writer, a director, or a
    carry-over from radio?)

    Then, Hal sez:

>     Micky's identification with such
>     early 'Hardy" films, instead of his body of work in some heavy dramatic
>     roles as an adult, ("Bill" on TV was a classic) would bug a lot of
>     performers.

    Was Dick Crenna similarly irked by an identification with Walter Denton? He
    did some fantastic movie work (especially in Sand Pebbles, in my mind) but
    he'll always be Walter to me. (Radio Our Miss Brooks is among my very
    earliest memories of the entertainment world.)

    Joe Cline ([removed])
    Charlotte

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 04:55:17 -0400
    From: Gord Lepsenyi <lepseg@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Software MP3 Player

    Hi there,
    In answer to the question:

>     Does anybody have any ideas for a good MP3 software player that works on
>     such legacy equipment? Or, if possible, where can one download a legacy
>     copy of winamp?

    The following, taken from website
    [removed] should work:
        Winamp [removed] popular
         Download Now
        Free download [removed]
         More download links
        Downloads:24,498,836
        Publisher:Nullsoft
        Date added:April 21, 2003
        License:Free
        Minimum requirements:Windows 95/98/NT/2000
        Uninstaller included?:Yes
        Screenshot:View screenshot
        Estimated download time:00:04:09  Dial-up ([removed] kbps)DSL/Cable (384
    kbps)DSL/Cable (768 kbps)T1 ([removed] mbps)

    Gord

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:38:40 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  8-30 births/deaths

    Please note that Julie Bishop died on her birthday

    August 30th births

    08-30-1797 - Mary Wollstonecraft Shelly - London, England - d. 2-1-1851
    creator of Frankenstein: "Suspense"; "The Weird Circle"
    08-30-1887 - Eduardo Ciannelli - Island of Ischia, Italy - d. 10-8-1969
    actor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-30-1896 - Raymond Massey - Toronto,  - d. 7-29-1983
    actor, host: "Doctor Fights"; "Harvest of Stars"
    08-30-1898 - Shirley Booth - NYC - d. 10-16-1992
    actress: Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"; "Hogan's Daughter"; "Strictly Business"
    08-30-1901 - John Gunther - Chicago, IL - d. 5-29-1970
    writer: "Information Please";"America's Town Meeting of the Air"; "Royal
    Gelatin Hour"
    08-30-1902 - Ray Bloch - Alsace-Lorraine, France - d. 3-29-1982
    conductor: "Milton Berle Show"; "Take It or Leave It"; "Johnny Presents"
    08-30-1903 - Jack Bundy - Milwaukee, WI - d. 11-1973
    bandleader: "Heinie and the Grenadiers"
    08-30-1905 - Sarah Selby - St. Louis, MO - d. 1-7-1980
    actress: Grace Graves "Junior Miss"; Wife "My Mother's Husband"
    08-30-1906 - Joan Blondell - NYC - d. 12-25-1979
    actress: Mary Vance "Miss Pinkerton, Inc."
    08-30-1908 - Fred MacMurray - Kankakee, IL (Raised: Beaver Dam, WI) - d.
    11-5-1991
    actor: George Harvey "Bright Star"; "Lux Radio Theatre
    08-30-1908 - Willie Bryant - New Orleans, LA - d. 2-9-1964
    host: "Night Life"
    08-30-1910 - Elinor Harriot - Duluth, MN - d. 6-10-2000
    actress: Ruby Taylor "Amos 'n' Andy"; Sally Gibbons "Story of Mary Marlin"
    08-30-1914 - Julie Bishop - Denver, CO - d. 8-30-2001
    actress: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    08-30-1917 - Dan Enright - d. 5-22-1992
    producer: "Put Up or Shut Up"; "Brain Train"; "Juvenile Jury"; "Life Begins
    at 80"
    08-30-1918 - Ted Williams, San Diego, CA - d. 7-5-2002
    baseball superstar: Several interview shows
    08-30-1919 - Kitty Wells - Nashville, TN
    singer: "Louisiana Hayride"

    August 30th deaths

    01-23-1926 - Lyn Osborn - Wichita Falls, TX - d. 8-30-1958
    actor: Cadet Happy "Space Patrol"
    02-16-1926 - Vera-Ellen - Cincinnati, OH - d. 8-30-1981
    actress: "Martin and Lewis Show"; "Tony Awards"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
    03-09-1918 - Marguerite Chapman - Chatham, NY - d. 8-30-1999
    actress: "Family Theatre"; "Silver Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    06-15-1909 - Joe De Santis - NYC - d. 8-30-1989
    actor: Jim Scott "Under Arrest"
    06-15-1909 - Joseph Desantis - NYC - d. 8-30-1989
    actor: Jim Scott "Under Arrest"; "This Is Nora Drake"
    06-19-1877 - Charles Coburn - Savannah, GA - d. 8-30-1961
    actor: "Roses and Drums"; "Song of Liberty"
    08-08-1913 - Axel Stordahl - Staten Island, New  - d. 8-30-1963
    conductor: "Songs by Sinatra/Frank Sinatra Show"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Coke
    Time"
    08-30-1914 - Julie Bishop - Denver, CO - d. 8-30-2001
    actress: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:39:00 -0400
    From: "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  recreation of play about Warsaw Ghetto at FOTR
     convention in   Newark
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    I was pleased to see that Steve Lewis and the Gotham Radio Players will be
    putting on a re-creation of the World War II era radio play "The Battle of the
    Warsaw Ghetto" on Friday, Oct. 22 at the FOTR Convention in Newark. The play
    was writtten by Morton Wishengrad, one of radio's finest dramatists-- Anyone
    interested in learning more about him should see:

    [removed]

    The entire text of the play is in Erik Barnouw's "Radio Drama in Action." For
    additional information about the play, see my "Words at War" (Scarecrow Press,
    2002)

    Howard Blue
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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:24:29 -0400
    From: PURKASZ@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  TO BE OR NOT TO [removed] ROONEY
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    All this back and forth about the Rooney response  to a fan and the rep the
    Mick has reminded me of a delightful encounter with  another movie star at a
    supermarket in North Hollywood back in late 80s.
        Walking past the glass front doors with my cart,  they opened and in
    walked Ralph Bellamy with his wife.
        Using a walker but moving very well, he looked  grand and very noble with
    his silver mane and brilliant blue eyes.
        I thought about saying something but he was past me  before I could.
        I felt I wouldn't have known what to say  anyway.
        Later, pulling my cart up to the checkout  stand, I suddenly noticed that
    he and his wife were directly in front  of me in the line!
        Knowing the checkout line to be an accepted  area of idle chatter, I
    resolved to say something.
        "Excuse me, Mr. Bellamy, My name is Michael  Gwynne." He turned to me
    with a big smile.
        I pressed on.
        " I just wanna say thank you sir for many great  performances over many
    years and how wonderful it is to see you looking so good.  Always a pleasure
    to
    see you on the screen and a real delight to see you  now. Thanks."
        I tipped my nonexistent hat.
        He smiled even bigger. Turned to his wife and said,  "See."
        She smiled ruefully as if to say, "Ya ya ya. so  they remember you."
        All parties felt good after that encounter.
        We even waved good-bye in the parking lot.
        I read where he passed on shortly after.
        I smiled at the recall of that fine day.
        The beaming smile on his face reminding his wife  that he was still to be
    recognized on the street made him proud and her,  [removed]
        Just like my girl.
        Just yesterday when I stood with her in a line at  the airport seeing her
    off to Florida, a guy behind her said to  me,
        "Hey, I know you. You're somebody aren't  you?"
        I turned to her and said,
        "See."
        She sighed wearily, looked at me and said,
        "Excuse me. Do I know you?"
        I laffed and left, tipping my nonexistent hat to  the man.
                        Michael  C. Gwynne

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:42:54 -0400
    From: Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Software MP3 player

    <You Wrote>

>     Does anybody have any ideas for a good MP3 software
>     player that works on such legacy equipment? Or, if
>     possible, where can one download a legacy copy of
>     winamp?

    Timothy,

    Go to [removed] and type winamp in the search
    window. They have an older [removed] build that works on
    Windows 95 just fine. There are two files there. One
    is "full" which adds features that your friend
    probably does not need. The standard download is
    probably what you want. (The one that's [removed])

    I hope this helps.

    Tom Greenli
    Albuquerque, NM

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:28:24 -0400
    From: Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Software MP3 player

    Timothy,

    Oops, I didn't page down far enought in the results
    field. Since you mentioned hard disc space was limited
    you should use Winamp Lite [removed] That file will play
    MP3's and is only 623K.

    Sorry for the confusion.

    Tom

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    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:36:37 -0400
    From: "J. Alec West" <OTR@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Frank Sinatra on terror?

    Must be heard to be believed (Flash required - audio only):

    [removed]

    Regards,
    J. Alec

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