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	    [removed]   Volume 96 : Issue 233


Articles in this issue of [removed]:

	 Shadow/ILAM/Thanks for the Logs
	 Back in the saddle [removed]
	 Re: Sidekicks
	 Fwd: Re: Fibber McGee and Company
	 Re: Sidekicks - [removed]
	 Speaking of sidekicks
	 OTR in NYC
	 Fibber McGee and Company
	

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:58:30 UT
From: "Bruce Rosenberger" <BR3D@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Shadow/ILAM/Thanks for the Logs
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

Was in the local 'funnybook' shop the other day and found a two tape set of 
Shadow shows claiming to be 'never before released'. I checked my own list and 
found that I do not have them. the show titles are as follows:
Circle of Death
The Death Triangle
The Destroyer
The Little Man Who Wasn't There

The first two show are Orson Welles, but I'm not sure who the other two are, 
the actor has a similarity to Welles and actually is a pleasing replacement. 
Does anyone know the dates of these two shows? (If I have a log of 'Shadow' 
shows I can't find [removed])

I received in the mail today my copy of "The Fear That Creeps Like A Cat" from 
AIC. It had been backordered for a couple of weeks, but is now in stock. I've 
been looking forward to this since Jim Harmon teased us with a section of it a 
couple of years ago at the FOTR convention. I hope everyone supports him by 
buying their "own" copy, so that future projects of this kind will be 
released.

I'd also like to take a moment to thank the people who put together the OTR 
Logs that are included here. Frank Passage and Charles Laughlin, among others, 
are to be commended for their excellent work!

Bruce M. Rosenberger - Hellertown, PA

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:02:35 -0400
From: Bruce Rudesill <lranger@[removed]>
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Back in the saddle [removed]
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

OK, a few more words on sidekicks and sich.

Gabby Hayes never appeared on TV with Hopalong Cassidy. He appeared in some
of the early movies as "Windy" Halliday. As an added extra for you're store
of useless information, Hayes was quite POed when he wasn't allowed to take
his "Windy" monicker with him to Republic. Hence, "Gabby" was born.

Hoppy's longest running sidekick was Andy Clyde as "California" Carlson. He
also assayed the role on the Hoppy radio show. Edgar Buchanan played Hoppy's
sidekick on TV.

"Gabby" Hayes and Pat Brady both appeared on radio with Roy Rogers. Also,
"Nellybelle" was a jeep, not a jalopy. I can attest to this fact as I saw it
in person two weeks ago at the Roy Rogers-Dale Evans Museum in Victorville,
California (Oh Joy! Oh Rapture! a dream come true). Just for the record,
Roy not only stuffed Trigger, he stuffed Buttermilk, Bullet and Trigger, Jr.
too. I'm not saying I know anything, but I sort of hope Dale doesn't pre-
decease him.

Getting back into OTR mode (which is better than 'lurk mode') how many of
you know what was Roy and Dale's theme song before "Happy Trails"?

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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:40:06 -0500
From: usrtest <usrtest@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Sidekicks
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]> said:
> > From: ulrich@[removed]
> > Andy Devine played Jingles on Wild Bill Hickock. Gabby Hayes was on Roy Rogers.
> 
> Gabby Hayes was on Hopalong Cassidy.  I don't remember him on Roy Rogers.
  
Pretty sure Gabby Hayes was Roy's sidekick in at least some of his movies; the phrase 
"Dagnab it, Roy!" rings in my ears.  Don't think he was ever Hopalong Cassidy's 
sidekick; that was California who had a 'stache but no chin whiskers (don't recall the 
actor's name but saw him recently in an *Andy of Mayberry* episode as the man with 
the "worst house in town").  Hoppy had another sidekick, an impulsive young lady's 
man called Lucky.  

BTW, I know that, in the original books (by, I believe, Louis Lamour under another 
pen name) Hoppy was only one of a number of ensemble characters at the 
something-bar-other ranch; was there a time when he himself would have been 
considered a sidekick?  If so, would he be the only sidekick ever to become the star?  
And did William Boyd ever affect the limp that gave the character his name? 

A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@[removed]> said:
> >
> > Minor correction:  Jingles was not Roy's sidekick (I think Gabby
> > Hayes and Pat Butram both held that post).  Jingles was Wild Bill
> > Hickock's sidekick.  Remember "Wait fer me, Wild Bill!"?
> 
> I remember it well.  But Roy Rogers' sidekick (besides Dale Evans and 
> Bullet) was Pat Brady, who drove a jalopy called "Nellybell."  

> Pat Butram was Gene Autry's sidekick.  

Ah, ya got me there.  Treacherous Memory!  And there was another Pat B. (I think), a 
character actor I frequently confuse with those two, with a funny, breaking voice; he 
played the lead in the *Twilight Zone* dramatization of Bradbury's "The Bell Jar."  
Off-subject, but if someone could recall his name to me my sleep tonight will be less 
troubled.

John Mayer
johnmayer@[removed]

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Date: Mon,  1 Jul 1996 23:37:58, -0500
From: BWWG42A@[removed] (MR JACK L PALMER)
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Fwd: Re: Fibber McGee and Company
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

-- [ From: Jack Palmer * [removed] #[removed] ] --

Had a little trouble with this msg, so am resending it.  Hope it goes
through OK this time.      Jack 

------- FORWARD, Original message follows -------

> Date: Monday, 01-Jul-96 11:18 PM
> 
> From: Jack Palmer               PRODIGY:     (BWWG42A)
> To:   [removed]@ai  Internet:   
> ([removed]@[removed])
> 
> Subject: Re: Fibber McGee and Company
> 
> Randy,
>         Fibber McGee and Company was on for about a year in the later
> 30's.  Mollie was seriously ill and off the show for quite a long
time and
> Fibber carried on alone.  Do they changed the name since Mollie was
not
> there.  I could give you the exact dates, but I'm too lazy to dig out
my
> reference book.  If you really wnat them, and no one else mentions
the
> dates, I'll dig them out for you.    Jack

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Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 01:52:32 -0500
From: usrtest <usrtest@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Sidekicks - [removed]
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

Oh, now I remember: California was played by Andy Clyde.

And the Twilight Zone episode was "The Jar," not "The Belljar" (confusing 
Ray Bradbury with Sylvia Plath).

johnmayer@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 08:21:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: JSEXTON@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: Speaking of sidekicks
Message-id: <01I6L9PVBDDE8WVZWZ@[removed]>

   Does anyone remember the sidekick of Tex Ritter? His name was "Arkansas"
Slim Andrews. I met the gentleman in person at the Western Film Fair here
in Asheville a few years ago.
    The elderly entertainer could play anything,from a mandolin to a
[removed] talents were amazing -and a nicer person no one could ever
[removed] a Autograph collector,I found him to be one of the most generous
celebrities,who would literally sit for hours and sign for everyone.
   I know He was in movies ("Take Me Back To Oklahoma")
but does anyone remember if He also was on OTR??With the talents
that he possssed,He could sure play anything,as well as sing.
  "Slim" is gone now,and I already miss [removed] was a swell entertainer
and a top notch gentleman. Best,John Sexton(JSEXTON@[removed])

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Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:39:15 -0400
From: Adrian_Cosentini@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
Subject: OTR in NYC
Message-ID: <1d919850@[removed]>

     As of July 6th 1996 WFUV-FM [removed] will be 
     broadcasting "Classic Radio" on Saturdays at 
     10:00 to 11:00pm. This month we will feature 
     The Jack Benny Show for the first half hour 
     afterward we will rebroadcast The March of 
     Time.
     
     This Saturday we'll hear Jack try to sell the 
     Maxwell. And on The March of Time we can 
     celebrate Kaiser Wilhelms birthday.
     
     So make a note of that. "Classic Radio" moves 
     from Wednesday 7:00pm to Saturday 10:00pm on 
     WFUV-FM [removed] .
     
     Adrian Cosentini
     Producer, Engineer & Tape cleaner
     of "Classic Radio"

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Date: Tue, 02 Jul 96 09:23:00 PDT
From: "Litsey, Alan" <alitsey@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fibber McGee and Company
Message-Id: <31D94E53@panther>

     A question was asked regarding Marion Jordon's absence from Fibber 
McGee and Molly. According to HEAVENLY DAYS, by Charles Stumpf and Tom Price, 
Ms. Jordon was exhausted from radio, film making, etc. The Jordans were also 
very loving, committed parents; so there was a lot on their shoulders. 
     In Sept. 1937, Ms. Jordon's doctor advised complete bed rest, other than 
broadcasts. I'm not sure when in the fall she pulled out of broadcasts, but 
by December 1937, Jordon was working on the air without her.      
     On June 28, 1938, Ms. Jordon made a brief appearance to say she would be 
back in the fall. However, she was not back until April 18, 1939.      
     A quote from the July 1939 edition of Radio Mirror Magazine is cited in 
the chapter on "Molly's Return": 
     "There wasn't a dry eye in the studio the night Molly returned to the 
Fibber McGee program afer an absence that began in the fall of 1937. Molly 
herself burst into tears when she entered the studio and saw what Fibber, 
the rest of the cast and many of her fans had done to welcome her. They'd 
banked the walls of the NBC studio high with a mass of flowers. Letters and 
telegrams of congratulations filled a table at the side of the [removed] 
looks fine, although she is still a little weak. You don't get over a long 
illness like hers in a hurry. However, her doctors say she can stand the 
strain of broadcasting at least until the program goes off the air in June.   
  Incidently, Molly's return was an occasion for rejoicing by an office boy 
in her sponsor's factory. Even though he's never seen her and lives two 
thousand miles from Hollywood, he suggested that the homeconing program be 
written around a 'budget theme' and reaped a hundred dollar bonus for his 
idea." (pp. 99-103; 111)
     

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Date: 2 Jul 1996 10:31:24 -0500
From: "John Hale" <[removed]@[removed]>
To: "OTR Posting" <[removed]@[removed]>
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>

>Can anyone provide an more info. of Cary's salt. The network announcer 
>says this is the Mutual Broadcasting System, so I think it may not have 
>been a local Sponsor.

Carey Salt is based in Hutchinson, KS. The brand is still in existance, =
but the company is now called North American Salt.  If anyone wants to =
dig further (no pun), their general office number is 316-662-6799. 

Hutchinson is a long time salt producing community and I have always =
thought of Carey's as a regional brand.  Another piece of trivia: =
Hollywood stores print masters about 300 ft. underground in Hutchinson =
where the salt provides a dry atmosphere and is safe from fire. 

John Hale
[removed]@[removed]
Dallas, TX

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