Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #154
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 5/18/2005 3:28 PM

To: [removed]@[removed]

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 154
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Arizona Connections                   [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
      RE: Sealtest Ice Cream                [ "Dennis J. Winkelsas" <dwinkelsas@e ]
      2 items from May 17 digest            [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
      Re: Seal Test Ice Cream               [ Paul Gough <paulgough@[removed] ]
      Hearing old time radio for the first  [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Arizona connections                   [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
      Arizona Connections                   [ Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed]; ]
      Re: Sealtest                          [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
      #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
      Seal Test                             [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
      5-18 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      RE: Seal Test Ice Cream               [ "Gordon Robson" <g-robson@[removed] ]
      The awesome Aussie                    [ Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed]; ]
      WTIC's Golden Age of Radio            [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
      Frank Gorshin dies                    [ Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed]; ]
      My Favorite Husband/cold water fauce  [ Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed] ]
      Sealtest Ice Cream                    [ Michael Mewborn <mdmewborn@earthlin ]
      Bob & Ray episode log                 [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      Frank Gorshin dies                    [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
      Frank Gorshin dies                    [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
      Jack Benny Eulogizes Nat King Cole    [ seandd@[removed] ]

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:20:04 -0400
    From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Arizona Connections
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    Musicians Marty Robbins and Wayne Newton are a couple of Desert Rats who
    did/have done rather well in the music field. Marty from Glendale had a
    few hits
    on the waves "White Sport Coat and a Pink Carnation" and I used to ignore
    Wayne
    Newton and his brother as Rascals in Rhythm on KPHO TV in the 50'[removed]'s
    not that
    they weren't  good but I was jealous and would rather play sports after
    [removed] think Steve
    Allen had Hub Cap and the Wheels on his show for a guest shot. That may
    have been
    the zenith of their performing careers. Aint neer heerd of em since.
    My late Uncle Tumble Weed (Bob Baker) sang on the National Barn Dance in
    the
    30's in Chicago in addition to making over 30+ movies as a singing cowboy
    in the
    30's-40's before  becoming a lawman/saddle maker/leather tooler in
    Prescott,
    Flagstaff, Camp Verde, Wickenburg and several other places in the Grand
    Canyon
    State.  You might  sense that he gathered no moss until the last few years
    as a
    mountain man overlooking the beautiful Verde valley and there it is too
    dry to
    gather moss. You can find Bob Baker on IMDB.
    Ed Kindred

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:20:17 -0400
    From: "Dennis J. Winkelsas" <dwinkelsas@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Sealtest Ice Cream

>     Been listening to several shows that have Seal Test Ice Cream commercials,
>     including Seal Test theater. Since I have never seen this brand that I know
>     of, I am curious, does this brand still exist? was it a regional product?

    Sealtest Ice Cream is still available, as far as I know, in Western New York
    state, around Buffalo. It's a really creamy, tasty, quality product. I'm not
    sure if it's distributed anywhere else. I live in Virginia, and haven't seen
    it for sale here.

    Dennis

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:20:42 -0400
    From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
    To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  2 items from May 17 digest

    1)  Wasn't Irma Peterson's boyfriend named Al?

    2)  It appears Sealtest dairy products are available in Ontario and British
    Columbia in Canada.  No mention of them in the US that I can find.

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:23:02 -0400
    From: Paul Gough <paulgough@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Seal Test Ice Cream

    Ed Rogers asked about Sealtest ice cream. The company
    has been taken over by Breyers (not sure if the
    Sealtest label is still in use); and their plant in
    Framingham, Massachusetts is bordered by Sealtest
    Drive, so the name is still out there. If Ed or anyone
    wants me to pursue the question, I'll find out if
    there are any Sealtest products still being marketed.

    Paul Gough

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:23:56 -0400
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hearing old time radio for the first time --
     again!

    While traveling recently, I experienced one of those unanticipated,
    serendipitous moments.  The car radio was playing and as the top of the hour
    came around, suddenly -- for the first time in years -- I heard the familiar
    chirps followed by the infamous instrumental ditty signaling the start of
    CBS News on the Hour.  While this won't seem like much to most of you, I
    hail from a  city of more than a million denizens who have been deprived of
    this hourly privilege throughout this century -- a network programming form
    that dates back to the 1950s and which we took for granted.

    Spinning along on a backwoods two-lane rural road in north Georgia, from an
    unidentified affiliate in Ellijay I again heard that wonderful sound (almost
    as welcome as Monitor's multifreq beeps, but not quite).  I devoured every
    word as host newscaster Christopher Glenn reeled off the hour's top
    headlines with wire reports from correspondents Barry Bagnato and Mark
    Knoller.  They and their colleagues (Bob Fuss, John Hartge, Lou Miliano, Dan
    Raviv, Frank Settipani, et al.) are the modern electronic journalistic
    successors to a durable and highly professional line of dependable stalwarts
    that included CBS newsmen Douglas Edwards, Allan Jackson, Edward R. Murrow,
    Lowell Thomas, Robert Trout and several branded as "Murrow's Boys" (Cecil
    Brown, Winston Burdett, Charles Collingwood, Bill Downs, Richard C.
    Hottelet, Larry LeSueur, Eric Sevareid, William L. Shirer, Howard K. Smith
    and a few others).  More than any other organization, they established news
    on radio and made it imperative to listeners, according to several scholarly
    radio historians.

    Having been banished from that tradition for years, it was a delight to hear
    those live reports once more.  It's sad that so many major metropolises have
    no connection with a national commercial radio chain any more.  When those
    pithy newscasts evaporate one day, the last vestiges of live radio we recall
    from the golden age truly will be a thing of the past.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:27:35 -0400
    From: <otrbuff@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Arizona connections

    My buddy Ted Meland inquires:

>     Does anyone know of OTR stars, musicians, etc. who were from Arizona?

    Well, it's probably a stretch but the Flying Crown Ranch was at Grover,
    Ariz.  Is that a mythical place or for real?  Rancher-aviator Schuyler King
    wasn't for real but you couldn't have convinced me in 1947.

    Didn't Hugh Downs have Chicago radio connections before "Hawkins Falls" on
    NBC-TV in the early 1950s?  I believe he's retired somewhere around
    Scottsdale but unsure.

    On the other hand, Ted said he was looking for stars.  While his galaxy has
    diminished (and his halo tarnished), there's Hal Stone.  (I couldn't resist,
    pal Hal!)  He's invariably good for a few laughs.

    Jim Cox

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:19:08 -0400
    From: Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Arizona Connections

    An anonymous digester just posted

>     Occassionally I am called on by various groups who are very hard up for
>     entertainment to talk on OTR.  Trivial stuff--things that audiences seem to
>     like to hear.

>     One thing I would like to include in such discussions is connections to the
>     state of Arizona, where I am located.

>     Does anyone know of OTR stars, musicians, etc. who were from Arizona? (SNIP)

    One very important OTR actress was raised in Jerome, a quaint Northern
    Arizona mining town built on the side of Mingus Mountain. Her [removed]
    Rosemary DeCamp. From what I was told, her father was the mine foreman
    there.  She is probably best known (among the OTR crowd) for playing the
    nurse on Dr, Christian. Following her Radio career, Rosemary went on to
    perform in films and TV shows. Perhaps best known as the Sister on the
    Robert Cummings Show. She appeared in about 23 films and 37 TV shows.

     > Any other people you know about?

    Does living in Arizona for the past 15 years count for anything? I can lay
    claim to that as my Arizona "Connection"

    Hal(Harlan)Stone
    Jughead

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    Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:10:48 -0400
    From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Sealtest

    On Mon, 16 May 2005 19:30:15 "Ed Rogers" <edrog@[removed]; wrote:

>     Been listening to several shows that have Seal Test Ice Cream commercials,
>     including Seal Test theater. Since I have never seen this brand that I know
>     of, I am curious, does this brand still exist? was it a regional product?

    I've been wondering about Sealtest myself as it was a familiar brand
    growing up - remember the wax cartons with the little hole with the
    flap on the side for pouring? - or, before that, the glass bottles
    with the little round paper disc stopping them, with the cream
    floating beneath (V forVitamins, V for Victory)? - how one's thoughts
    meander when you reach a certain age - but it then disappeared from
    the Knoxville Market for decades. It is now back in local stores. I
    imagine it is a national brand that contracts with local dairies. Of
    course, I could do a search on Alta Vista, but then I'd miss some of
    the fun of reminiscing.

    ~John Mayer

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:57:59 -0400
    From: charlie@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

    A weekly [removed]

    For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
    Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
    and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
    over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
    of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
    real-time OTR talk!

    Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
    others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
    range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
    it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
    it's always a good time!

    For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
    week and every week!

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:58:19 -0400
    From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Seal Test

    edrog@[removed] asked about "Seal Test ice cream". A little research
    showed the correct spelling for the brand is "Sealtest". If we do a Google
    search for various phrases like "Sealtest sponsor" we'll find bunches of
    sites that mention the company with its old time radio and television
    shows, etc.
    I remember it as the sponsor of a circus show on television when I was a
    kid in Baltimore, Maryland. I live in California now and it's not
    advertised here. I don't know if it's still around on the east coast.
    I also found that Sealtest Variety Theater is available for free download
    at [removed] Thanks, "rogers", I'm gonna check it out.

    By the way, I found this auction site which has many pictures of old
    advertising items that many of us might remember. Usual disclaimers apply -
    I just found the pictures when looking for "Seal Test" in Google:

    [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:58:26 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  5-18 births/deaths

    May 18th births

    05-18-1892 - Ezio Pinza, Rome, Italy - d. 5-9-1957
    singer: "Telephone Hour"; "Ezio Pinza's Children Show"; "Stagestruck"
    05-18-1893 - Jean Goldkette - Patras, Greece - d. 3-24-1962
    bandleader: "The Studebaker Champion Program"
    05-18-1897 - Frank Capra - Bisacquino, Sicily - d. 9-3-1991
    film director: "Gulf Screen Theatre"; "NBC Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    05-18-1900 - Raymond Paige - Wausau, WI (R; Los Angeles, CA)- d. 8-7-1965
    conductor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Musical Americana"; "Stage Door Canteen"
    05-18-1902 - Meredith Willson - Mason City, IA - d. 6-15-1984
    conductor, composer: "Maxwell House Coffee Time"; "Meredith Willson/Music Room"
    05-18-1904 - Fred Shields - Kansas City, MO - d. 6-30-1974
    actor: Bill Fraser "Tarzan"
    05-18-1907 - Clifford Curzon - London, England - d. 9-2-1982
    pianist: "March of Dimes"
    05-18-1908 - Ted Malone - Colorado Springs, CO - d. 10-20-1989
    commentator: "Between the Bookends"; "Pilgrimage of Poetry"
    05-18-1912 - Perry Como - Canonsburg, PA - d. 5-12-2001
    singer: "Perry Como Program"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"
    05-18-1922 - Bill Macy - Revere, MA
    actor: "Earplay"
    05-18-1922 - Kai Winding - Aarhus, Denmark - d. 5-7-1983
    big band musician: "Stan Kenton and His Orchestra"; "One Night Stand";
    "Jubilee"
    05-18-1924 - Jack Whitaker - Philadelphia, PA
    disc jockey, sportscaster: "Jack the Bachelor"; "Sports Shots"
    05-18-1931 - Robert Morse - Newton, MA
    actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
    05-18-1936 - Joel Kupperman - Chicago, IL
    panelist: "Quiz Kids"

    May 18th deaths

    02-06-1888 - Lucille Gleason - Pasadena, CA - d. 5-18-1947
    actress: "Jimmy Gleason's Diner"
    03-21-1893 - Sidney Franklin - San Francisco, CA - d. 5-18-1972
    film producer, director: "Academy Awards Program"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
    03-25-1892 - Andy Clyde - Blaingowrie, Scotland - d. 5-18-1967
    actor: California Carlson "Hopalong Cassidy"
    05-03-1919 - Doris Rich - Canada - d. 5-18-1971
    actress: Hannah O'Leary" Houseboat Hannah"; Miss Daisey "Portia Faces Life"
    06-13-1890 - Elmer Davis - Aurora, IN - d. 5-18-1958
    newscaster: "Elmer Davis and the News"
    06-29-1908 - Leroy Anderson - Cambridge, MA - d. 5-18-1975
    compser, arranger: " Contemporary Composers Concerts"; "Must for America"
    08-31-1908 - William Saroyan - Fresno, CA - d. 5-18-1981
    writer: "Columbia Workshop"; "The Free Company"; "Biography in Sound"
    09-09-1927 - Elvin Ray Jones - Pontiac, MI - d. 5-18-2004
    jazz drummer: "Newport Jazz Festival"
    11-16-1912 - Paul Dudley - MA - d. 5-18-1959
    writer: "Pot o' Gold"; "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
    11-23-1912 - Tyree Glenn - Corsicana, TX - d. 5-18-1974
    trombonist, vibraphonist: "Duke Ellington Carnegie Hall Concert"
    11-27-1925 - Marshall Thompson - Peoria, IL - d. 5-18-1992
    actor: "Free World Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
    11-29-1905 - Mario Braggiotti - Florence, Italy - d. 5-18-1996
    pianist, composer: "Fray and Braggiotti"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:29:25 -0400
    From: "Gordon Robson" <g-robson@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Seal Test Ice Cream

    Ed Rogers commented:

>     Been listening to several shows that have Seal Test Ice Cream commercials,
>     including Seal Test theater. Since I have never seen this brand that I know
>     of, I am curious, does this brand still exist?

    Sealtest is still a very popular brand here in Mississauga (just outside
    Toronto, Ontario in Canada).  It is owned by a company called Natrel
    ([removed]).  Sealtest still produces everything related to dairy
    (milk, cream, butter, sour cream, etc) except ice cream!

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:12:58 -0400
    From: Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  The awesome Aussie

    [removed] asks

>     I'm beginning to wonder, are we being subjected to a Hal Stone/Ian Grieve
>     that will, in time, surpass the notorious Jack Benny/Fred Allen feud of yore?

    A feud? Pshaw! Just two friends from across a wide gulf who enjoy zinging
    each other. Besides, Ian's lonely out there in the Outback, with nothing but
    Roos, Rabbits and radio for company. I Grieve for him. :)

    And the hot dry spell he's experiencing sometimes causes him to hallucinate.
    So take his postings with a grain of saltpeter.

>     What next, a Henry Aldrich/Archie Andrews feud?

    Not likely. Unless Jackie Kelk is still with us.

    Hal(harlan)Stone
    Jughead

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:48:35 -0400
    From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
    To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  WTIC's Golden Age of Radio

    The latest "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" programs
    with Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran, can be heard at
    [removed]

    You may have noticed our server was down for a few
    days last week, so we'll be leaving these shows up a
    little longer than usual.

    We present three complete shows in MP3 format for
    your listening pleasure or for downloading. If our server
    host can handle the strain, we'll provide three each time.
    The current programs will be available until at least Monday,
    May 23rd.

     35. February, 1973 - Henry Hull, radio, stage and motion
    picture actor who appeared in "The Pit and the  Pendulum,"
    one of the very first "Suspense" dramas.

    36. March, 1973 - Jackson Beck, actor and announcer, who
    appeared in countless radio shows during radio's golden era.

    37. April, 1973 - Mason Adams, actor, best known for his
    portrayal of  Pepper in "Pepper Young's Family." Mr. Adams
    went on to a very successful career in commercials ("with a
    name like  Smucker's . . .") and television.

    In the 1970's Dick Bertel created the program for WTIC in
    Hartford, CT. The idea came to Dick after he interviewed radio
    collector-historian Ed  Corcoran a few times on his radio and
    TV shows. "The Golden Age of Radio was first broadcast in
    April, 1970;  Ed was Dick's co-host.

    For the next seven years the program featured interviews with
    actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians from radio's
    early days. Each show featured excerpts from Ed's collection.

    "WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights
    on Walden Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

    Bob Scherago
    Webmaster

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:48:52 -0400
    From: Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed];
    To: "OTR (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Frank Gorshin dies

    Actor, impressionist, comedian Frank Gorshin died May 17. He is remembered
    for countless appearances on TV, in films and on stage, but to OTR fans, he
    is probably best remembered for his Tony-nominated one man touring tribute
    to George Burns entitled "Say Goodnight Gracie."  Gorshin was 71.

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:49:43 -0400
    From: Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed];
    To: OTRDIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  My Favorite Husband/cold water faucet
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    I was listening to some episodes of My Favorite Husband this morning.  In
    either the one where she teaches someone to Samba, or where her mother almost
    marries a Texan [I think it was the latter], Liz asks her husband to get her
    some water.  She says, "I want cold water-from the left spigot."  Aren't hot
    and cold "standard" now-cold on the right and hot on the left?  Was this not
    so then?

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:24:15 -0400
    From: Michael Mewborn <mdmewborn@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Sealtest Ice Cream

    I don't know how large an area was served by Sealtest, but I grew up in South
    Carolina and there was a plant near our house. In fact, the plant included a
    public ice cream parlor. One time my father took my little brother and me to
    this parlor. This was very unusual, since my dad never took us anywhere.
    Anyway, there on the wall was a strange box with Hopalong Cassidy being
    shown. I looked around for a movie projector, but saw none. My dad explained
    this was something called television. I was about 10 years old and spent the
    next several months trying to find out how this Sealtest Dairy managed to get
    pictures from the electrical outlet, when I could only get sound. We finally
    got a TV a few months later. I learned quickly that I preferred radio.

    As far as I know, Sealtest still exists, although it's been awhile since I
    actually saw the product.

    Michael Mewborn

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:06:12 -0400
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: OTR <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Bob & Ray episode log

    Does anybody know of any Bob & Ray episode logs? I know assembling one
    would be a daunting task. Jerry Haendiges has a partial log on his
    website, for 1952 only. I've just acquired a bunch of shows from 1949
    and 1949, and some others that are undated. The dates I have for the
    1949 & 1959 shows don't look right--unless they did multiple shows per
    day? (I don't think that's the case for the 1959 shows.) Can anybody
    point me to something authoritative and useful?

    Thanks,
    Kermyt

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:08 -0400
    From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Frank Gorshin dies

    The associated press has reported that actor and
    impersonator Frank Gorshin, who recently portrayed
    George Burns on Broadway, has died at age 72.

    I don't know if Gorshin, perhaps best known as "The
    Riddler" on the 1960s "Batman" TV series, did any OTR
    himself; but his portrayal of Burns should rate him a
    mention on this list.

    Rick

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:55:39 -0400
    From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Frank Gorshin dies

    Just heard that Frank Gorshin died today at 72 of lung cancer.  I thought I
    had heard that he was going to do his George Burns show out on the road as
    recently as two or three weeks ago.

    Michael Biel   mbiel@[removed]

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:05:22 -0400
    From: seandd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Jack Benny Eulogizes Nat King Cole

    Nice quote from Jack on Nat in today's Seattle Times.

    Sean Dougherty
    SeanDD@[removed]

    [removed]

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