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[removed] Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 401

Table Of Contents: 

	 DUBBING
	 nothing lasts forever in radio
	 [removed]'s Christmas collection observation
	 Hector's History
	 First episode of Dragnet
	 OTR actors
	 MUSIC TIL DAWN
	 Re: RADIO COMEDY/CLIFF SIMAK/DWIGHT & DIANNE WEIST

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Date: Mon, Oct 21 1996 03:37:14 EDT
From: Thomas Heathwood <theathwo@[removed]>
To: <otr@[removed]>
Subject: DUBBING
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>

For those interested, (esp. re:Michael Berger's note) HERITAGE RADIO
CLASSICS has been doing custom-dubbing of OTR and a wide variety of
nostalgia since 1971.
Dubbing from ET's, reels, any format up to 15 ips. We used to do wire
recordings too, but the old AC/DC machine gave up, and so did we.
We normally dub to TDK standard bias C-60's at half the price mentioned in
Michael's cited example.
Write us for more details, since I am not doing a commercial here!!
<<TOM HEATHWOOD/HERITAGE RADIO/YESTERDAY-USA SUPERSTATION>> 10/21
  FAX: (617) 965-9984    PO BOX 16, BOSTON, MA  02167
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:01:53 -0400
From: Platecap@[removed]
To: otr@[removed]
cc: bill@[removed]
Subject: nothing lasts forever in radio
Message-ID: <961021040150_1414457084@[removed]>

I was sorry to read of Randy Minnehan's 
( minnehan@[removed] ) dismissal from the Yesterday USA lineup, but let me
point out this:  No show or announcer, no matter how good, stays on the air
forever.  Historically, DJs are the most disposable of any of the staff of
any radio station or broadcast [removed]  that's why I got into the
technical aspect of broadcasting!  After 8 years, this past summer, my show,
Radio Vault recently bit the dust at a local station, but I'm still working
for them as Chief Engineer.  We're an owned/operated affiliate of a childrens
radio network now.

Someone in management somewhere at a station has to make decisions they feel
are in the best interest of the station and/or listeners. In the case of
Yesterday USA, it's Bill Bragg.

Bill Bragg and I have been good friends for better than 10 years (and it was
great to see him again at this past Newark convention).  Knowing Bill's
integrity, I'm sure he had a good reason to drop Minnehan's show.  REGARDLESS
of whether or not he GIVES a reason, he can still do what he wants in the
best interest of the operation.  That's the way things sometimes work in the
broadcast business.    At some stations that have employeed me both past and
present, I was required to sign a legal document that states I can be
"terminated by management at will, with or without cause and employment is
not for any specific length of time."   If you don't have a contract and/or
belong to a union, this is typical.

Does Mr. Minnehan have any such contract that guarantees him a slot on
Yesterday USA?  I think not, nor is one necessary.  I was the first volunteer
"DJ" that Bill put on satellite many years ago and was there until I had to
resign last year due to lack of time.  

Many of the best shows in the country are still on Yesterday [removed] and the
most famous show today, "When Radio Was" (now on 300 stations) was first
brought to a national (satellite) audience thanks to Yesterday USA.    The
work of Bill Bragg on YUSA needs on-going support from collectors to keep it
alive and thriving.  He was a Allen Rockford Award winner in 1994 from the
Friends of OTR.  Bragg's actions speak for themselves -- all positive in
support of the hobby.

Just my 17 cents, and if you agree or disagree, please send me (or Bill or
Randy) private e-mail, rather than take up any more space in the digest.

-Bob Burnham;  BRC Productions; Platecap@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:28:42 -0600
From: Joe C. Foster <[removed]@[removed]>
To: Otr <[removed]@[removed]>
Subject: [removed]'s Christmas collection observation
Message-Id: <H0000b3f051e46de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OTR gang:

I recently received a collection of Jack Benny's Christmas Shopping tapes=

(circa mid 40=92s to early 50=92s). In the past I have acquired a large c=
ollection
of [removed] tapes (including earlier Christmas shopping shows) essentially fr=
om the
30's to mid 40's.

There is one underlying characteristic between these shows in the Christm=
as
shopping collection. A multitude of gags/jokes are recycled (word for wor=
d)
year after year. I am surprised that [removed] allowed for the reincarnatio=
n of
old jokes.  As I stated earlier I familiar with Jack Benny, but the joke
recycling is a phenomenon I am not hitherto aquatinted. Is this a common =
with
Jack Benny's later programs? Did Jack Benny=92s writers recycle old gags/=
jokes?

I did find this collection enjoyable and would recommend it to OTR fans.

Carey

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:20:20 -0400
From: Robert Kirk <kirk@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hector's History
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>But then, I haven't heard an installment of MMT since Hector was a pup. Come
>to think of it, I haven't come across that expression since Hector was a pup,
>either. Who the heck was Hector? Is this a reference to the Trojan War?
>
>Dick Lupoff
>

I thought I was the only one in the world who used the 'Hector was a pup'
phrase. And I don't know where it came from. My wife will ask me what it means
and I have to tell her  I haven't the slightest idea. Probably picked it up
from my father in the 40's around New York. That's my only clue. My
guess is that it's from an earlier comic strip or OTR show. Or maybe
an Our Gang comedy?

I doubt it was from Troy. "What's Hecuba to him, or he to Hecuba".

Any ideas?

Bob  Kirk

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:32:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dewana Burnham <dburnham@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: First episode of Dragnet
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

For the person who inquired about the 1st episode of Dragnet,

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but from what I have been told, the 
first episode of Dragnet was done live and never recorded.  So in this 
case the second official episode is the first one available to collectors.

Troy Burnham

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:37:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dewana Burnham <dburnham@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR actors
Message-ID: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hello Digesters,

I need to get something cleared up.  A friend of mine told me that Dick 
Beals was one of the actors that played Dan Reed on the Lone Ranger.  I 
that true?  

The same person also told me that Parley Bear, I hope I am spelling that 
right, is the Keebler elf on television, but the other day in the digest 
someone mentioned Arthur Anderson as being the elf.

I know with all of the OTR fans that are subscribers, that I will be able 
to get answers to these questions.  Thanks in advance!

Troy Burnham

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:28:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: BURT WILSON <futurecon@[removed]>
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MUSIC TIL DAWN
Message-Id: <[removed]@[removed]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I used to listen to Music 'til Dawn when I was in basic training in the Army
in Colorado Springs in the mid-50's.  I picked it up from then-KNX in Los
Angeles. It seemed to make army life more bearable and gave me a spiritual
anchor in a sea of country music.

The announcer was very sensitive to the fact that many audiophiles wanted to
tape the theme "That's All" off the air, so every once in awhile he would
play it and tell the audience that he would leave 10-seconds of dead air
before and after the broadcast.

To my knowledge, one can still pick up a copy of the theme by calling one of
the 50,000-watt clear channel stations which carried it.  Or by calling
American Airlines.  I had a friend who had the album put out by AA, but the
theme, which was the first cut, was shortened--compact--and did not sound
like the one we heard on the radio.

I thought the orchestra was lead by Tony d'Americo.  Could be wrong.  I
would think that if any of those who might have taped it off the air had a
copy for sale, they would quickly post it on this OTR channel.  (Hope, hope)

That's All is still one of my very favorite tunes and the best recording of
it I have ever heard besides the CBS-AA version is by Keely Smith.  Beautiful.
Burt Wilson

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:57:49 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: RADIO COMEDY/CLIFF SIMAK/DWIGHT & DIANNE WEIST
Message-ID: <961021195722_1112769073@[removed]>

Charles Mazza asked what is the best starting off point for someone branching
out into radio comedy.  If you want to start with only one show, I'd have to
suggest JACK BENNY, followed by AMOS 'N' ANDY and FRED ALLEN.  But for a
really good overview of the top comedy programs, I'd have to suggest Radio
Spirits' new collection, COMEDY FROM THE GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO.  The new
20-tape/60 program collection includes 3 episodes each of ABBOTT & COSTELLO,
ALDRICH FAMILY, AMOS 'N' ANDY, THE BICKERSONS, BOB HOPE, BURNS & ALLEN,
CHARLIE McCARTHY, DUFFY'S TAVERN, FIBBER McGEE & MOLLY, FRED ALLEN, GREAT
GILDERSLEEVE, JACK BENNY, THE LIFE OF RILEY, LUM & ABNER, MILTON BERLE, MY
FAVORITE HUSBAND (starring Lucille Ball), OUR MISS BROOKS, OZZIE & HARRIET,
THE PHIL HARRIS & ALICE FAYE SHOW, and RED SKELTON, plus a booklet on Radio
Comedy by (ahem) yours truly.  Like Radio Spirits' SUSPENSE collections,
COMEDY FROM THE GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO costs $[removed] (only a dollar a show for
excellent sound).  The collection can be ordered from Radio Spirits for
$[removed] (plus $[removed] postage and handling) or from me.  If OTRD subscribers
order the collection from me, I'll pay the postage, though I can't handle
charge card orders as Radio Spirits can.
     Jim Widner is correct in noting Cliff Simak's departure from science
fiction writing during the 1930s.  Cliff spent much of that time writing
stories for the higher paying Western pulps, until John W. Campbell lured
Cliff back to SF and the pages of Street & Smith's ASTOUNDING.  And while
Simak wrote a novel a year after 1959, he continued his day job as an editor
of the Minneapolis Star and Tribune newspapers until the late 1970s.
     My late friend Dwight Weist lamented that Dianne Weist was unfortunately
no relation to him.  They both worked in Woody Allen's RADIO DAYS.  Dwight
did the pseudo "War of the Worlds" voice over (a role he had turned down in
the original broadcast along with the Rooseveltian Secretary of the Interior
because he was already committed to a rehearsal for Norman Corwin that night.
 Dwight is seen on-screen in Radio Days when he interrupts Mia Farrell's soap
opera debut with the announcement that Pearl Harbor has been bombed.  Hope
you all had a great time at FOTR. -- ANTHONY TOLLIN 




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