Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #111
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 3/11/2003 4:03 PM

To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2003 : Issue 111
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      MASH OTR references                   [ "adfull@[removed]" <adfull@eart ]
      Tom Nicks pocket knife                [ "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed] ]
      Hotlips                               [ "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed] ]
      Arthur Q Bryan, Cliff Hall            [ "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed] ]
      Re: Jacob Tarshish                    [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Broadcast tickets: old and older      [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
      March 11th Birthdays                  [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      Pipe Organs & Hotlips                 [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed] ]
      HY Everybody!                         [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
      Is This A Dagger I See Before Me?     [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      Ozzie Nelson's Vocalization           [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
      M*A*S*H and OTR                       [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
      Re: Ozzie Nelson's Vocalization       [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
      Re: Golden Voice of Radio             [ Steve Lewis <lewis@[removed]; ]
      Re: Western Union Clocks              [ Paulurbahn@[removed] ]
      Kay Thompson                          [ SIrvinProd@[removed] ]
      Gunsmoke Theme again                  [ "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@earthlin ]
      Cornell Woolrich                      [ "Jim Widner" <widnerj@[removed]; ]
      Thousand dollar bill                  [ "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed] ]
      A Tantalizing Question                [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:00:22 -0500
    From: "adfull@[removed]" <adfull@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  MASH OTR references

    One of the best episodes of this series is the one in which the unit gets
    really excited about movie being shown, a [removed] believe it was "High
    Noon" but I could be mistaken.  Hawkeye is so excited he "can plotz."
    Something goes awry with the movie and the doctors and nurses are forced to
    entertain themselves doing impersonations from the Golden Age of Radio.

    Adam Fuller
    Claremont, CA

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:12:45 -0500
    From: "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed];
    To: "otr message" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Tom Nicks pocket knife

    I have a Tom MIX pocket knife, though I am guessing it was never a premium.
    Anyone know if there ever was one?  It says "novelty knife company" on the
    blade.

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:12:53 -0500
    From: "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed];
    To: "otr message" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Hotlips

    Wasn't Hotlips Hoolihan from Jimmy Durante?

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:13:07 -0500
    From: "Don Frey" <alanladdsr@[removed];
    To: "otr message" <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Arthur Q Bryan, Cliff Hall

    A question for Mr. [removed]
    Listened to two Archie's the other day and on one the great Arthur Q Bryan
    was
    Mr Andrews (taking a bath) and on the other Cliff Hall played the part (TV
    comes to the house.) Does Mr. Stone remember anything about these two
    gentlemen and does
    he know if either played the part in other shows from the series. Thanks, in
    advance.

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:33:03 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Jacob Tarshish

    On 3/10/03 4:21 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

>     I just came in possession of a book called Little Journeys with the
>     Lamplighter byJacob Tarshish It appears that he was on radio as the
>     lamplighter from 1926 to at least 1936? Possibly in the Chicago area? Does
>     anybody know anything about him?

    Jacob Tarshish was a Reform rabbi, based at Temple B'Nai Israel in
    Columbus, Ohio. He was one of the major Jewish religious broadcasters of
    the 1930s, with his "Lamplighter" programs originating at WLW in
    Cincinnati, and carried for several years as a Mutual network feature.
    Tarshish's program was in fact the very first program carried by the
    Mutual network, beginning under the sponsorship of the Wasey Products
    Company on 9/30/34, the day the network began service.

    Tarshish's talks tended to be very ecumenical/philosophical in nature --
    he didn't stress doctrine so much as application of religious principes
    to everyday life, and in this sense he was very similar to the many
    liberal Protestant clergymen who were heard on network radio during this
    era (Harry Emerson Fosdick, Samuel Parkes Cadman, etc.)

    Tarshish's "Lamplighter" books, containing compilations of his
    broadcasts, were issued thruout the middle years of the 1930s, and
    individual talks were often reprinted in pamphlet form. (I've been
    searching for years for the pamphlet of Tarshish's 1/13/35 broadcast, in
    which he analyzes the moral lessons and religious principles taught in
    "Amos 'n' Andy.")

    Elizabeth

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:02:25 -0500
    From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Broadcast tickets: old and older

    Found a site that has images of old broadcast tickets, accompanied by some
    interesting (and occasionally sarcastic) commentary.  Mostly TV, but there's
    a handful of NBC radio tickets, including one for a 1953 "Gildersleeve"
    show:

    [removed]

    Michael

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:39:48 -0500
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  March 11th Birthdays

    If you born on March 11th, you share your birthday with:

    1900 - Andy Sannella - Brooklyn, New York
    1903 - Lawrence Welk - Strasburg, North Dakota
    1907 - Jessie Matthews - London, England
    1909 - Ramona - Lockland, Ohio
    1929 - Timothy Carey - Brooklyn, New York
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    Make your day, listen to an Olde Tyme Radio Program

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:40:17 -0500
    From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Pipe Organs & Hotlips

    Regarding our set of "Radio Orphan Annie" CDs, Irene Heinstein writes:

>     The organ opening is fabulous.   The theme is a real toe-tapper.  Who says
>     an organ can't swing?   I'm always sorry when that guy jumps in with the
>     lyrics to the theme, pushing the organ into the background.   Do you know
>     who the organist was?

    I wish that I did, Irene, and I agree with your comments. I've always been a
    fan of theater pipe organs and its great to hear someone play who really
    knows their stuff. I also agree that - apologies to you Pierre Andre fans
    out there - a little *less* Ovaltine would have been nice. But, then, they
    paid the bills and I can't imagine many kids of the time wanting to hear
    *more* of the organ and *less* of Annie's adventures!

    I was going to make an educated guess and say that the organist was Gaylord
    Carter, since he was in Chicago working for NBC at the time these shows were
    broadcast -- but I bet a nickle that, were I to do so, someone reading this
    would say "Oh, no it wasn't" and prove me wrong. [removed] anyone have the
    definite answer to Irene's question?

    Regarding M*A*S*H and OTR references, Kermyt Anderson writes:

>     somewhere in Dunning's encyclopedia he mentions that a variety show circa

    1950 featured a sultry vixen named Hotlips

>     Houlihan! I can't find any reference to that name in the book's index, nor

    can I recall the name of the series.

    The character of Hotlips Houlihan was played by Florence Halop on Jimmy
    Durante's Rexall shows of the late 1940's. Halop, an experienced character
    actress, was the sister of "Dead End Kid" Billy Halop and later played the
    female baliff on TV's "Night Court" following the death of Selma Diamond.

    Harlan

    Harlan Zinck
    First Generation Radio Archives
    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:40:55 -0500
    From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  HY Everybody!

    Hi Gang:

       With all these OTR connections to M*A*S*H surfacing, I'd like to quickly
    point out that  several episodes were directed by OTR personality Hy
    Averback.

    "That is all.":

    That Derek

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:45:54 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Is This A Dagger I See Before Me?

    In the Digest, Rick sixshooter27us@[removed] -- commenting on OTR
    reference in the M*A*S*H television shows -- mentions,

>     He used his Tom Nicks pocket knife that he won on the radio as a kid.
>     When the padre got back, Hawkeye joked that all the surgens would trade
>     in there scalpels for Tom Nicks pocket knives.

    Assuming that what's meant is a "Tom Mix pocketknife," that would mean
    that he was listening to the OTR show in 1939.  It was a single-blade
    knife with the TM-Bar brand on two checkerboard squares that flank
    "Ralston Straight Shooters" on the handle.

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:47:38 -0500
    From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ozzie Nelson's Vocalization

    Speaking of "restricted" words on OTR, the renowned Elizabeth McLeod
    says,

>     In a surviving  Joe Penner "Baker's Broadcast" from 1934, Ozzie Nelson
>     and his Orchestra open the program with a torrid rendition of Cab
>     Calloway's hit tune "Reefer Man," complete with Ozzie himself on the
>     vocal.

    I've never heard the song in question, but "reefer" had other meanings
    than a joint.  It could also mean a naval jacket, a person who reefs a
    sail, a midshipman, or, if one is in the furniture-moving business, a
    refrigerator.  (Indeed, the use of "reefer" for a MJ cigarette may have
    been derived from the reefing of a sail.)

    Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:48:27 -0500
    From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  M*A*S*H and OTR

              I'm not sure whether you could call it an OTR reference
    or not, but I remember an episode where a traveling troupe
    of performers came to the 4077th and performed  their acts
    for the troops.  It was like a miniature USO show.  They had to
    stay there for one reason or another.  The acts were straight
    out of vaudeville!  Weren't there USO programs on the radio?

              There was an episode where the surgeons and  nurses
    were in the operating room and the radio was playing "The
    Arthur Godfrey Show".  Col. Potter said that Arthur Godfrey was
    a fine performer.  Hawkeye replied, "Ah yes, a man and his ukelele."

              I remember seeing a M*A*S*H episode last Friday, where a
    soldier had to have his leg removed in order to save his life.  He was
    depressed because he'd been an award winning football player
    before being drafted.  Radar came to visit him to cheer him up and
    showed him a magazine which chronicled the soldier's prowess as
    a football player.  He told the soldier, "Yeah, I know.  I heard the game
    over armed forces radio (AFRS)."

              There was also an episode where Hawkeye was surrendering.
    He approached the unseen enemy who'd been shooting at the camp.
    He said: "Don't shoot!!! We're the good guys,[removed] DiMaggio,
    Marilyn Monroe, Kate Smith, apple [removed]"

              There was an episode where something happened  to the movie
    being shown to the 4077th staff, and Radar did his impression of Jack
    Benny (with Klinger as Rochester) to fill in the time.  It was hilarious!

              These are the only ones I can remember off the top of my head.

    Sincerely,

    Kenneth Clarke

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:49:49 -0500
    From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Re: Ozzie Nelson's Vocalization

    On 3/10/03 7:35 PM Stephen A Kallis, Jr. wrote:

>     I've never heard the song in question, but "reefer" had other meanings
>     than a joint.  It could also mean a naval jacket, a person who reefs a
>     sail, a midshipman, or, if one is in the furniture-moving business, a
>     refrigerator.  (Indeed, the use of "reefer" for a MJ cigarette may have
>     been derived from the reefing of a sail.)

    Quite true, but in this particular case, the only meaning intended refers
    to the Forbidden Herb. On the original 1932 Cab Calloway recording
    (Brunswick 6321), the song itself is preceded by this little exchange
    between Cab and one of his sidemen, over a rhythmic string-bass solo:

    "What's the matter with that cat?"

    "Must be full o' reefers!"

    "Full o' reefers! You mean that cat's high?"

    "Sailin'!!!"

    "Is that the Reefer Man?"

    "That's the Reefer Man! Listen here, [removed]"

    And then on into the song itself, which features the following lyric:

    Have you ever met that funny reefer man?

    (REEFER MAN!)

    Have you ever met that funny reefer man?

    (REEFER MAN!)

    If he says he swam to China,

    He sell you South Carolina

    Then you know you talkin' to the Reefer Man!

    And so forth. In the broadcast in question, Ozzie sang the lyrics, but
    the pre-song dialogue was omitted, perhaps because the idea of Ozzie
    trying to emulate the over-the-top dialect used on the Calloway disc is
    too hysterical to imagine. (In any event, we know now why Ozzie was
    always so [removed])

    Seriously, though, there are quite a few pot references in jazz and blues
    songs of the Depression era -- bandleader Don Redman even went so far as
    to use "Chant of the Weed" as his theme song, while other overt
    marijuana-reference selections were recorded by such artists as Benny
    Goodman, Bessie Smith, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, and Fats Waller.

    Elizabeth
    (who treasures her collection of Cab Calloway 78s)

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:27:36 -0500
    From: Steve Lewis <lewis@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Golden Voice of Radio
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    At 04:39 PM 3/10/03 -0500, Dennis Crow asked:

>     ... Remember, the grave has a name
>     and years of birth and death. The inscription is simply, "Golden Voice of
>     Radio." It is found at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. The person is well
>     described by the inscription but it did surprise me.

    Might it be Frank Munn?

    I'm basing this on the title of the book

    Frank Munn: A Biodiscography of the Golden Voice of Radio, by Rodney
    Steiner and Thomas A. Delong (Southport, CT: Sasco Associates, 1993)

                     Best

                       Steve

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    Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:13:24 -0500
    From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Re: Western Union Clocks

    Bill Orr wrote:

>     Some had a red light that would glow as the reset occurred.

    I remember the little red light coming on when I worked as a DJ in the late
    60s at a radio station that had one of those clocks. We always joined the NBC
    network right on time and I was amazed at how accuarate the clock was. Great
    memories! I think I still have a picture of me in those days that shows the
    clock.
    Paul Urbahns
    paulurbahn@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:46:22 -0500
    From: SIrvinProd@[removed]
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Kay Thompson
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    I am researching the OTR career of Kay Thompson. She was a regular singer,
    arranger, and chorus leader on a number of great shows during the 1930s, with
    Bing Crosby, Fred Waring, Harry Richman, Andre Kostelanetz, Richard Himber,
    and she started THE LUCKY STRIKE HIT PARADE with Lennie Hayton. These hit
    shows are fairly well documented. I am having a tougher time digging up
    information for Kay's appearances on more obscure shows. Does anyone have any
    information or airdates/times on the following enigmas: 1.) Kay Thompson
    show/series on KTM, Santa Monica, in 1931.  2.) "THE PONTIAC SURPRISE PARTY,
    sometime in 1934.  3.)  NBC show that Kay made a guest appearance on Sunday
    night, March 29, 1936. And, I would be extremely interested in information on
    any other rare Thompson shows of that era. Any help would be greatly
    appreciated! Thanks!

    Best Wishes,
    Sam

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    Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:48:36 -0500
    From: "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Gunsmoke Theme again

    My thanks to David Howell, who was kind enough to send me the
    lyrics to Gunsmoke.  I would have thanked him by personal email, but he
    didn't give his address.  From a website of lyrics from TV and OTR shows, it
    was stated that the words were never aired.  Reading
    the lyrics given on the website doesn't ring the old bell.  None of the
    lyrics sound familiar.  I know I heard the lyrics on TV or radio.  Anyone
    able to help?

    Harry Machin, Jr.

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    Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:47:25 -0500
    From: "Jim Widner" <widnerj@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Cornell Woolrich

    In the last digest (I saw), Kurt Yount commented:

>     Now that we have that very complete list of Woolrich [removed]

    Though I know this is not what you meant, but not to take anything away
    from Francis "Mike" Nevins, who wrote the definitive book on Woolrich,
    there has been a complete list for some time. It was just in Nevin's
    published work. When Martin Grams put it on the net, he was just
    picking it up from there.

    Mike worked hard to compile that list and I just wanted to make sure he
    maintained the credit for something he did long ago.

    Jim Widner
    jwidner@[removed]

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    Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:48:20 -0500
    From: "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Thousand dollar bill

    J. F Asks:

>     Pertaining to the description of one finding a thousand dollar bill on the
>     street in one of the OTR reviews, I have never seen a $1,000 bill unless a
>     printout in a book or in a coin shop.  Were $1,000 bills in common
>     circulation in the OTR days?

    My guess would be that they were almost non-existant, at least to the
    average person.  A thousand dollars was a huge amount of money then.
    A few years after the days of OTR, I was a GI stationed in Germany.  My best
    buddy had lost a front tooth in an accident.  He was going back to St. Louis
    to get married and wanted to get a temporary plate before he left, but
    didn't have the money.  I lent him $100, that was a lot of money then and
    there.  A week later I got a letter from him with a hundred dollar bill in
    it, I had never seen one before.  I went to the [removed] but they wouldn't
    accept it.  Ended up going to the American Express Office to cash it, even
    there the clerk had to call a supervisor who closely inspected it and
    checked the serial number against a list before cashing it in.
    A few years later, I landed at a small airport in [removed] and needed to rent a
    car.  At the rental agency they asked for a hundred dollar deposit so I gave
    them a hundred dollar bill.  They took the bill to the other rental booths
    to show it to the clerks there, none of them had ever seen one before.
    So I would think that a thousand dollar bill would be quite rare back then
    (and now).

    Roby McHone
    Fairbanks, Alaska

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    Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:46:41 -0500
    From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
    To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  A Tantalizing Question

    I want to play fair with Digest readers who have responded to my challenge
    regarding  "The Golden Voice of Radio,"  who lies peacefully  in Forest
    Lawn Memorial Park.  Yesterday I made a big thing out of there being no
    "The" in the inscription.  I was incorrect.  The gravestone has the
    deceased's name, the year of birth and death, and the inscription, "The
    Golden Voice of Radio."  To some, the article "The" might make a difference
    so I want to correct the record before the answer is given. I think it will
    still surprise you.

    Dennis Crow

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