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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2008 : Issue 215
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Early Days of OTR Catalogues          [ "Rick Roberts" <rickrob@[removed]; ]
      9-10 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Howdy Doody on the radio              [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
      Superman, eating                      [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
      Howdy Doody On the Radio              [ "Paula Keiser" <pkeiser1@[removed]; ]
      LaFontaine and others                 [ "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
      Mar-Bren & George Fowler              [ Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ros=EDn?= <fra ]
      Don LaFontaine                        [ Paul Adomites <padomites@embarqmail ]

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    Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:22:51 -0400
    From: "Rick Roberts" <rickrob@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Early Days of OTR Catalogues
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    In the mid 60s [removed] a reel to reel catalog that among many others had
    almost every sf show [removed] the X Minus Ones and Dimension [removed]
    bought a few on 5' reels since that was the only recorder I had as a [removed]
    was 12 when I got [removed] the name of the place was Reel Things but I
    might be [removed] remember I found the place by an ad in a comic book
    fanzine from Texas. All the SF and horror otr grabbed my attn but they had a
    lots of other shows as [removed] could purchase full size reels also.

    By the [removed] was the first otr group I discovered on the internet way
    back and somehow lost touch with it for about 5 yrs til a friend asked me if
    I'd seen [removed] and [removed] going back in time to come back to you
    folks. Been lurking for about a yr or so now.

    Best
    Rick Roberts

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    Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:23:01 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-10 births/deaths

    September 10th births

    09-10-1879 - Jess Pugh - Andersonville, IN - d. 1-22-1962
    actor: Scattergood Baines, "Scattergood Baines"
    09-10-1885 - Carl Van Doren - Hope, IL - d. 7-18-1950
    author/lecturer: "New York Philharmonic Orchestra"; "Words at War"
    09-10-1886 - Sam Taub - NYC - d. 7-10-1979
    sportscaster: "Madison Square Boxing Bouts"
    09-10-1892 - Albin Beck - d. 2-14-1982
    newscaster: WKBZ Muskegon, Michigan
    09-10-1898 - Adele Astaire - Omaha, NE - d. 1-25-1981
    dancer, actor: (Fred's Sister) "Magic Key"; "Savings Bond Campaign"
    09-10-1900 - Francis Craig - Dickson, IN - d. 11-20-1966
    bandleader: "Spotlight Revue"
    09-10-1900 - Joseph Bentonelli - Sayre, OK - d. 4-4-1975
    operatic tenor: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Vick's Open House"
    09-10-1902 - Jim Crowley - Chicago, IL - d. 1-15-1986
    football all-american: (One of the Four Horsemen) "Kate Smith Hour"
    09-10-1904 - Emery Deutsch - Budapest, Hungary - d. 4-16-1997
    conductor: "Arabesque"; "Let's Pretend"
    09-10-1904 - John V. Aspe - d. 1-xx-1973
    tenor: WHN New York, New York
    09-10-1904 - Lyle Van - Troy, NY - d. 7-22-1997
    newscaster: "Lyle Van and the News"
    09-10-1906 - Ruth Stafford Peale - Fonda, IA - d. 2-6-2008
    religious leader: "The Aldrich Family"
    09-10-1907 - Alvin Childress - Meridian, MS - d. 4-19-1986
    actor: "New World A-Coming"
    09-10-1907 - Fay Wray - Alberta, Canada - d. 8-8-2004
    actor: Rosemary "Keeping Up with Rosemary"
    09-10-1909 - Raymond Scott - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-8-1994
    conductor, composer: "Your Hit Parade"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
    09-10-1909 - Ruth Yorke - NYC - d. 12-xx-1980
    actor: Jan Arden "Jane Arden"; Belle Owen "Life Can Be Beautiful"
    09-10-1915 - Edmund O'Brien - Brooklyn, NY - d. 5-9-1985
    actor: Johnny Dollar "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
    09-10-1915 - Vivian Della Chiesa - Chicago, IL
    singer: (America's Great Lyric Soprano) "American Album of Familiar
    Music"
    09-10-1916 - Dorothy Lowell - NYC - d. 7-1-1944
    actor: Sunday Brinthrope "Our Gal Sunday"; Linda Clark "Hilltop House"
    09-10-1917 - Jean Ruth Hay - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-18-2004
    disc jockey: "Reveille with Beverly"
    09-10-1920 - Vivian Block - Brooklyn, NY
    actor: "Let's Pretend"; Ann Weston "Wilderness Road"; "Coast to Coast
    on a Bus"
    09-10-1922 - Emily Vass - Greenville, SC
    singer: (The Vass Family) "The Lady Next Door"; "Kraft Phoenix Program"
    09-10-1927 - Gwen Watford - London, England - d. 2-6-1994
    actor: "Barnstaple"
    09-10-1934 - Charles Kuralt - Wilmington, NC - d. 7-4-1997
    sportscaster: "Junior Sports Parade"; "Sports Final"

    September 10th deaths

    01-04-1917 - Jane Wyman - St. Joseph, MO - d. 9-10-2007
    actor: "Dreft Star Playhouse"
    01-31-1923 - Joanne Dru - Logan, WV - d. 9-10-1996
    actor: (Sister of Peter Marshall) "Lux Radio Theatre"
    04-01-1923 - Bobby Jordan - NYC - d. 9-10-1965
    actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"; "Wheatenaville
    Sketches"
    04-12-1907 - Ivan Ditmars - Olympia, WA - d. 9-10-1997
    music: "Advs. of Frank Race"; "Dr. Christian"; "Escape"
    04-18-1924 - Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown - Vinton, LA - d. 9-10-2005
    singer, guitarist: "Newport Jazz Festival"
    05-12-1912 - Everett Clarke - d. 9-10-1980
    actor: Flamond "Crime Files of Flamond"
    05-26-1905 - Fred MacKaye - Hackettstown, NJ - d. 9-10-1980
    actor, director: Monk Rice "Point Sublime"; "Lux Radio Theatre";
    "Romance"
    05-27-1911 - Evelyn Morin - Dunn, IN - d. 9-10-2000
    singer: (Morin Sisters) "World of Music"; "Breakfast Club"
    06-19-1932 - Pier Angeli - Cagliaru, Saradinia - d. 9-10-1971
    actor: "Louella Parsons Show"
    08-06-1881 - Leo Carrillo - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-10-1961
    actor: Pedro "Grapevine Rancho"; "Four Frightened People"; "Good News
    of 1939"
    09-24-1927 - Alfred Kraus - Las Palmas, Canary Islands - d. 9-10-1999
    operatic tenor: "Metropolitan Opera"
    10-02-1914 - Charles Drake - Bayside, NYC - d. 9-10-1994
    actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
    10-16-1891 - Wilfred Lytell - NYC - d. 9-10-1954
    actor: Doc Barron "Just Plain Bill"; "Wings Over America"
    12-09-1905 - Dalton Trumbo - Montrose, CO - d. 9-10-1976
    writer: (member of infamous Hollywood Ten); "Arch Oboler's Plays"
    12-13-1904 - George Baxter - Paris, France - d. 9-10-1976
    announcer: "Grand Central Station"; "The Career of Alice Blair"
    12-30-1885 - Ed Jerome - NYC - d. 9-10-1959
    actor: Harry Blackstone "Blackstone, the Magic Detective"; Gregory
    Allen "Rich Man's Darling"

    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:23:10 -0400
    From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Howdy Doody on the radio

>     Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:14:25 -0400
>     From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed];

>     Is anyone familiar with Howdy Doody on the radio? Everything I can
>     find on the internet is about the TV show. I have a show from 53-12-24
>     in which Buffalo Bob says it is the second anniversary of the Howdy
>     Doody radio show. They go on to say it is Christmas Eve. One confusing
>     note is that a search of the New York Times radio listings shows Howdy
>     Doody radio shows from 1948 forward.

    What's complicated is that Howdy Doody was on the radio at two
    different times.

    Howdy Doody originated as a character on Bob Smith's Saturday morning
    kids show on WNBC called the "Triple-B Ranch"  (Triple-B for Big
    Brother Bob).  The character originally was a country-bumpkin named
    Elmer, who greated Bob Smith with "Well, Howdy Doody!"  The kids in
    the studio audience called him Howdy Doody, and at some point, Bob
    Smith (not yet Buffalo Bob) decided that was a better name.

    Since it was radio, they didn't use a dummy or a puppet, so the kids
    just saw Bob Smith speaking in a different voice.  The kids
    complained that they wanted to see Howdy Doody, which gave Smith the
    idea to do television.  The TV show premiered on 27 December 1947.  I
    don't know when the "Triple-B Ranch" ended, but it seems to have been
    not too long after the television show began.

    Howdy Doody's second appearance on radio was the Saturday morning
    Howdy Doody radio show, which ran for an hour and started on NBC
    sometime in 1951.  After each day's Howdy Doody television show, the
    kids were taken into another studio, where segments were recorded for
    the radio show.

    There was also the weekday morning Bob Smith radio show, which began
    sometime in 1953 or 1954 on NBC radio opposite Arthur Godfrey on CBS.
    Apparently it did well enough that some portions of the radio show
    were re-enacted as the weekday at noon (ET) Bob Smith Show on
    television.  This was a pretty grueling schedule for Bob Smith, who
    suffered a heart attack over Labor Day weekend 1954.  As I recall the
    Howdy Doody radio show disappeared abruptly at that time.  The Bob
    Smith radio show continued, with Bob Nicholson hosting, until
    December.

    I'm sending a copy of this to Jeff Judson, who heads the Doodyville
    Historical Society and publishes a monthly newsletter.  If he has any
    further information, I'll pass it along to this forum.

    --
    A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
     92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax [removed]
    Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         [removed]

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    Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:04:05 -0400
    From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Superman, eating

    Did Kal-El alias Clark Kent alias Superman have to eat?

    Ron Sayles

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    Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:04:49 -0400
    From: "Paula Keiser" <pkeiser1@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Howdy Doody On the Radio

    Andrew Steinberg wrote:

>     Is anyone familiar with Howdy Doody on the radio? Everything I can find on
>     the internet is about the TV show. I have a show from 53-12-24 in which
>     Buffalo Bob says it is the second anniversary of the Howdy Doody radio
>     show.

    As a child growing up in the WNBC coverage area, I remember hearing Howdy
    Doody (not Elmer) on the Bob Smith radio show on Saturday mornings. I was
    younger than 8 years old, which dates those shows I heard as prior to July,
    1951.  Perhaps the reference Smith made was not to a stand-alone show, but
    to the Howdy Doody segments on the Bob Smith show.

    Paula Keiser
    Topeka, KS

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    Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:11:30 -0400
    From: "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  LaFontaine and others

    Tom wrote:

>     Funny, as great as LaFontaine was (and is), when I think of
>     movie trailers, only one name come to mind: Art Gilmore.

    Not to take away from his considerable talent, but LaFontaine, to
    me, became something of a cliche ... and I don't meant just the
    phrase, "In a world where ...." But otherwise, deep, guttaral,
    meanacing ... though he could lighten his voice for comedies.

    By the same token, Gilmore was somewhat type-voiced ... at least
    I think of him more when it came to the light-hearted sex comedy
    (Doris Day, et al) previews rather than something serious. Maybe
    as a teenager my mind was more in one direction than the other.

    Another voice that comes to mind for previews (that's what we
    called them in West Texas 'cause that's what it said on the
    screen - "Previews of Coming Attractions!") is Marvin Miller.

    Bob Cockrum

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    Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:28:01 -0400
    From: Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ros=EDn?=  <frankr@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Mar-Bren & George Fowler

>     Great Radio Shows and George Fowler in Washington state was another
>     first class dealer.

    George Fowler moved from Kirkland Washington to Sequim Washington about
    30 years ago.  He continued with his Great Radio Shows business until
    he became infirm about 10 years ago.  George is still living in Sequim,
    a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, but his infirmity
    has progressed to the stage where it is difficult for him to
    communicate.

    His collection of radio material for the Great Radio Shows business is
    on reel to reel which he donated to The Radio Enthusiasts of Puget
    Sound about 10 years ago.  The reels are in storage along with other
    items that have been donated to REPS.  One of the benefits of his
    collection was the extensive catalog which gave a paragraph long
    description and plot of every single episode he had listed.  At the
    present time because of the date and quality of early collections such
    as his, much of the material is not up to the standards of today.

    Individual episodes are put on CDs on occasion when time permits of
    some of the harder to obtain things which are then added to the REPS CD
    Library.  You can check it out at [removed].

    Frank Rosin

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    Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:23:55 -0400
    From: Paul Adomites <padomites@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Don LaFontaine

    My brother used to work in LA at a sound studio which produced a lot of movie
    trailers, so naturally he worked with Don. David said once during a recording
    session he asked Don to "back off a little" meaning to be less forceful with
    his reading. Don snorted and said to no one in particular, "This voice can
    rip the roof off a Fiat, and he wants me to back off."

    Paul Adomites

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