Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #278
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Date: 9/12/2005 6:11 PM

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                                The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                                  Volume 2005 : Issue 278
                             A Part of the [removed]!
                                 [removed]
                                     ISSN: 1533-9289

                                     Today's Topics:

      Two versions of Perikoff Policy.      [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
      Ed Carr                               [ NightMaster <nightmaster@[removed] ]
      NBC Chimes                            [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
      Lucky Strike Green                    [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
      9-12 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
      RE: WWII TAX                          [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      RE: Col. McCormack (or However it's   [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      Abbott & Costello joke in "Get Fuzzy  [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
      RE: Mantan Moreland                   [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
      Reading Scripts                       [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
      thanks for the info                   [ gary young <garyy2002us@[removed]; ]

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    Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:41:17 -0400
    From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  Two versions of Perikoff Policy.

    Hello, just wondering if anyone can tell the difference or why there are two
    versions of the Perikoff Policy from Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar? They're the
    first dated shows I have, and they're definitely different, due to the voice
    inflections and some different wording. Can anyone clear up the confusion,
    and possibly the date discrepancy?
    Thanks a lot.
    Matthew

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    Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:41:22 -0400
    From: NightMaster <nightmaster@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Ed Carr

    Saw mention of Ed Carr's name and wondered if anyone could tell me if
    he still lives in Connecticut?

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    Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:13:20 -0400
    From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  NBC Chimes

    Michael Shoshani wrote:

>     Another theory is that one chime sequence was used on the Red network,
>     another on Blue.  This is also hard to support from existing recordings,
>     because the general public were not told which network they were hearing
>     at the time, and most stations were not given one feed exclusively.

    The following also supports the idea that the chime sequence (GEC) was
    the same for both the Red and Blue networks.

    NBC Interdepartment Correspondence, July 21, 1939. Subject: Blue Network
    Chimes - Library of Congress, NBC file

    [removed] Fairbanks in an Interdepartment Correspondence to Mr. Keith Kiggins
    suggested that the chimes on the Blue Network be different from the Red
    Network chimes. "Specifically, I would like to see some serious
    consideration given to a change in Blue Network chimes that would
    unquestionably identify the programs being carried over this network."
    He suggested adding 4, 5, or 6 carefully selected notes to the present
    three-note chime so the well known NBC musical trade mark would be
    retained but would give the Blue a unique label.

    Evidently Fairbanks idea was never adopted and the chimes remained the
    same for both networks.

    Bill H.

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    Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:32:50 -0400
    From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Lucky Strike Green

    From: Jack & Cathy French

>     Many companies continued to advertise products they could not even
>     produce, due to military contracts, but they wanted to keep their
>     products in the public eye. Others trumpeted their patriotism,
>     occasionally on shaky grounds,  [removed] the makers of Lucky Strike, who
>     changed their package from green to white and claimed "Lucky Strike
>     Green has gone to war!"

    IIRC, Lucky Strike had to eleminate green from their cartons because
    chromium, an ingredient necessary to make green paint, was in short
    supply as it was needed for the war effort.*
    I am sure LS wanted to get as much patriotic** milage out of the "Lucky
    Strike Green has gone to war" slogan as they could. There are probably
    more details to this than I am [removed] lazy to look it up right
    now.

    Bill H.

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    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:51:42 -0400
    From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
    To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  9-12 births/deaths

    September 12th births

    09-12-1888 - Maurice Chevalier - Paris, France - d. 1-1-1972
    actor, singer, host: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "This is Paris"; "Bing Crosby
    Show"
    09-12-1892 - Malcolm La Prade - d. 7-xx-1974
    creator, producer: "The Collier Hour"
    09-12-1894 - Billy Gilbert - Louisville, KY - d. 9-23-1971
    actor: "NYA Varieties"; "Rudy Vallee Rehearsal"
    09-12-1897 - Walter B. Gibson - Germantown, PA - d. 12-6-1985
    creater of "The Shadow"; writer for "The Avenger"
    09-12-1901 - Ben Blue - Montreal, Quebec, Canada - d. 3-7-1975
    actor, comedian: "Hollywood Hotel"
    09-12-1910 - Lehman Engel - Jackson, MS - d. 8-28-1982
    broadway conductor: "Madrigal Singers of New York"; "Texaco Star Theatre"
    09-12-1910 - Shep Fields - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-23-1981
    bandleader: "Rippling Rhythm Revue"
    09-12-1914 - Desmond Llewelyn - Newport, South Wales - d. 12-19-1999
    actor: Archdeacon Erabazori "Nemesis"
    09-12-1914 - Eddy Howard - Woodland, CA - d. 5-23-1963
    bandleader, singer: "Carton of Cheer"; "Gay Mrs. Featherstone"
    09-12-1915 - Paul Marion - The Bronx, NY
    actor: Husband "Merry Life of Mary Christmas"
    09-12-1916 - Ed Binns - Philadelphia, PA - d. 12-4-1990
    actor: "This Is My Story"
    09-12-1921 - Frank McGee - Monroe. LA - d. 4-17-1974
    nbc newsman: "Meet the Press";"The Great Debate"
    09-12-1924 - Ella Mae Morse - Mansfield, TX - d. 10-16-1999
    singer: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Everything for the Boys"; "Jubilee"
    09-12-1931 - Ian Holm - Goodmayes, England
    actor: Frodo: The Lord of the Rings"

    September 12th deaths

    02-26-1932 - Johnny Cash - Kingsland, AR - d. 9-12-2003
    singer: "Louisiana Hayride"
    03-12-1890 - Lou Clayton - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-12-1950
    partner: "The Jimmy Durante Show"
    04-04-1932 - Anthony Perkins - New York City, NY - d. 9-12-1992
    actor: "Guest Star"; "Listening to Music with Tony Perkins"
    04-21-1920 - Jim Nabbie - d. 9-12-1992
     lead tenor: (Member of the Ink Spots) "The Four Ink Spots"; "Let's Go
    Nightclubbing"
    05-06-1911 - Frank Nelson - Denver, CO - d. 9-12-1986
    actor, comedian: Anthony J. Lyon "Jeff Regan, Investigator"; nemisis "Jack
    Benny Program"
    05-21-1917 - Raymond Burr - New Westminster, [removed], Canada - d. 9-12-1993
    actor: Lee Quince "Fort Laramie"; Ed Backstrand "Dragnet"
    06-05-1898 - William Boyd - Hendrysburg, OH - d. 9-12-1972
    actor: Hopalong Cassidy "Hopalong Cassidy"
    06-24-1910 - Katherine Locke - Kalakenchu, Russia - d. 9-12-1995
    actress: "Columbia Presents Corwin"
    07-24-1907 - Glenn Riggs - East McKeesport, PA - d. 9-12-1975
    announcer: "Musical Varities"; "Hop Harrigan"; "Boston Blackie"
    08-02-1905 - Ruth Nelson - Saginaw, MI - d. 9-12-1992
    actress: "Arch Obler's Plays"; "Columbia Workshop"
    08-07-1883 - Reinald Werrenrath - New York City, NY - d. 9-12-1953
    baritone: "Old Company Program"
    08-22-1910 - Rod Brasfield - Smithville, MS - d. 9-12-1958
    comedian: "Grand Ole Opry"
    10-20-1889 - Robert Fiske - Griggsville, MO - d. 9-12-1944
    actor: Speed Robertson "Air Advs. of Jimmie Allen"
    11-15-1879 - Lewis Stone - Worcester, MA - d. 9-12-1953
    actor: Judge James Hardy "Hardy Family"
    12-14-1898 - Lillian Randolph - Louisville, KY - d. 9-12-1980
    actress: Birdie Lee Coggins "Great Gildersleeve"; Sapphire's Mama "Amos 'n'
    Andy"
    --
    Ron Sayles
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:13:05 -0400
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: WWII TAX

     During the war, just about anything considered a "luxury" was taxed at a
    rate or 10 or 20%. These "excise taxes" were generally known to the public as
    "luxury taxes," and were paid to the Collector of Internal Revenue, an office
    that was abolished sometime in the early fifties because of some scandal,
    whose nature I don't remember. All cosmetics were taxed, as well as all
    jewelry (including timepieces) and a whole raft of other things that were
    considered as not necessities. I lived in Illinois at that time and we had a
    2% sales tax. Probably half the states had no sales taxes at all, unlike
    today, where almost every state has a sales tax that's beginning to approach
    the 10% that I remember paying for so-called luxuries, at the time those
    taxes were repealed.

     B. Ray

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    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:54:52 -0400
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Col. McCormack (or However it's Spelled)

>     McCormick, who owned the Chicago Tribune, gave a speech on a Saturday
>     evening show, which originated from
>     Mutual, Chicago. One evening, he was automatically cut, by the MBS
>     'machine' -- all hell broke loose!

     I remember listening to that show as a little kid; I thought the music was
    great, but that first 10 minutes, with the Colonel's dry, monotone, talking
    about stuff in which I was totally disinterested, drove me up a wall.
    Finally, the show started running without his speeches, for which I was ever
    grateful. I had no idea it was because he was sick and dying, and I don't
    know how I'd have felt if I had known, since I wasn't a big fan of the Trib
    in those days. Then he died, and the Trib came out with black borders between
    the columns and a big 144pt. Banner head, announcing the dire news. It turned
    out that the news was dire for me because the show immediately went off the
    air. I hadn't known that the only reason the show ran was so that the Colonel
    would have a forum for his speeches.

     B. Ray

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    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:01:18 -0400
    From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Abbott & Costello joke in "Get Fuzzy"

    The Monday, Sept 12 episode of "Get Fuzzy" has a nice Abbott & Costello
    reference:

    Kermyt

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    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:01:47 -0400
    From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
    To: <[removed]@[removed];
    Subject:  RE: Mantan Moreland

     > I was discussing old time movies with a guy (Charlie) I used to work with
    and asked him "What was the name of
     > the fella who played in the Charlie Chan movies who" ......

     > "Mantan Moreland" he replied before I finished my question.

     Funny that it was put this way. Maybe it was just because I was a kid with a
    kid sense of humor, but I remember Mantan Moreland in the Charlie Chan movies
    doing a routing with another actor (was it Willie Best), where each of them
    would ask the other a question and before getting it out, the other would
    answer, but the first one would interrupt the answer with either a comment or
    another question. They kept this routine up for several minutes and I was
    rolling on the floor laughing.

    [removed]

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    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:59:39 -0400
    From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  Reading Scripts
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
    X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

>     Also, I'd be willing to bet that radio actors could
>     have memorized their lines, if asked. They were
>     _actors_, after all. They may have had scripts in hand
>     for expediency, but I've no doubt that they could have
>     learned their lines, just as the actors who performed
>     on live TV did.

    I have to ask this question of Rick, just how easy do you think it is to
    memorize a half hour to an hour script when the actor has only had the play
    for probably less then a full 24 hours? Not everyone works at the same level
    when it comes to memorization. I've worked with both "quick studies" and
    "slow studies" over the years in both film and stage productions and that's
    with a minimum of three weeks of rehearsals for the stage and many retakes
    for film. Live radio didn't allow for either. As Hal and others have pointed
    out some actors did more then one show a day with limited rehearsal, there
    simply wasn't time for a Lengthy memorization process, and frankly there
    wasn't any need for one.
      There is no reason in the world why actors should have been required to
    memorize their parts during radio's golden age any more then there is any
    reason why we on Imagination Theatre or the BBC ask actors to memorize in
    this day and age. We hire top people who can act and lift the words off the
    page and so did the producers and directors of OTR. Acting is a craft that
    has many, many levels. What works on stage doesn't always work on camera and
    do on, radio acting created a different skill for the actor to master, to be
    able to read lines and project the meaning and emotion through the reading
    without weeks of rehearsal and props.
       Why didn't actors memorize the lines, why should they. The good ones
    master the new skill, the great ones owned it and the incompetent went back
    to working in the drugstore. The audience was never cheated in any way.
    Larry Albert

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    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:05:39 -0400
    From: gary young <garyy2002us@[removed];
    To: [removed]@[removed]
    Subject:  thanks for the info

    I want to thank all that replied to me about the wheat
    emergency.
    In a recent post, some one wrote about  [removed]
    Now I have seen this posted in the past but would like
    to know more about it. how to get to it, use it and so
    on.
    I also would like to say that all you wonderful
    experts/enthusiast's, keep up the good work.  I learn
    so much from you on how it was during the golden age.
    Thanks

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